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Mhm.

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» All right, my watch is showing 6:00. So,
we'll go ahead and call this meeting to

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order.
Please rise for the invocation by

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Reverend Wayne Moore, High Point Baptist
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» Let's pray.
Heavenly Father, we thank you, Lord, for

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this wonderful country that we live in
and better freedom for 250 years. Thank

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for all those who made sacrifices to
give us this freedom and to

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protect and continue to have it today.
And Lord, we thank you for our founding

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fathers who recognized that we had
certain inalienable rights that were

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given by you and not by government, but
that government is to protect those

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rights. We thank you for the great
documents that we have the Declaration

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of Independence, the Constitution of the
United States of America.

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Lord, we pray that you would help us to
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and continue to live uh by these values
and protect these for our future

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generations.
Lord, we pray for this body of local

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governing officials here tonight that
you would give them direction and

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guidance and wisdom.
Lord, that you would bless the people of

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Patrick County with prosperity, with
happiness, with peace.

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And we would use all the blessings that
you give us to further the gospel and

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to proclaim your great name to all that
we can.

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Lord bless us as we pray in Jesus' name.
Amen.

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» Amen.
>> And the pledge of allegiance.

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Pledge of allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America,
and to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.

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» And a moment of silence in recognition
of US military serving here and abroad

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and all public safety.

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Well, you can be seated.

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All righty, the first item of business
is approval of the meeting agenda. Do we

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have any amendments to the agenda?

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» Any changes, sir, are
annotated in red.

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» Okay.

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All righty.
And Mr. Cox would like to speak briefly

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after the employee recognition.

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And can I go ahead and get a motion to
approve as amended?

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» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. Any

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discussion?

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All righty, we'll proceed to vote. Mr.
Marshall?

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» Yes.
>> Mr. Kendrick?

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» It uh
>> Mr. Cox?

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» Uh
>> Mr. Wood?

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» I.
>> And I vote I as well.

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The meeting minutes from June 8th, 2026.
Do we have any amendments to those

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meeting minutes?

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All right, being there are no
amendments, we will take those as

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approved as presented.
Approval of the bills, claims, and

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appropriations.
Do we have any questions?

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» Yeah, the uh
the year-end transfer summary shows that

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some of the salary elements
in last year's budget ran well under

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what those positions actually cost, and
others ran well over.

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Um the transfers square the estimates
with the actuals after the fact. I'm not

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questioning the math, and I'm not
pointing fingers. This board, myself

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included, adopted that budget, and the
careful reconciliation work in front of

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us is to the credit of our new finance
officer, who inherited these numbers on

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short notice. My concern is simply this:
We're approving differences after the

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money is spent, not having had a role in
its formulation. I would like to be sure

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the current year's budget doesn't carry
the same liabilities forward.

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I'm handing the county administrator a
short written list of questions on the

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specific items, and I ask that staff
respond in writing.

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Until I see those answers,
I can't say the numbers in front of us

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are the ones I verified.
Um it's a due diligence thing, and not

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criticism of anyone on the staff.

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» All righty, any other questions, or
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» I might have a question earlier today,
but I think it's been answered over uh

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I said it's being graded this morning.
Maybe on page 42.

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About the
That's one of them.

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Under uh
these questions.

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These questions.

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» You have
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44 should be corrected to
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» That is correct, right?
>> It has been corrected. Yes, sir.

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» All righty, anything else?

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All right, I'll take a motion to
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» I'll make a motion.
>> All righty, can I get a second?

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» Second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Any further

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discussion?

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All right, we'll proceed to vote. Mr.
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» No.
>> Mr. Kindred.

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» Aye.
>> Mr. Cox.

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» Aye.
>> Mr. Goins.

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» Aye.
>> And I'll vote aye as well.

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We will proceed into our presentations.
Uh the first one is Patrick County

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partner.
Do you want to start that one?

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» Yes, sir.

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So, this evening I have the pleasure of
presenting the Patrick County Partner

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Award to Dr. Richard Cole. I wanted to
say thank you to the citizens that had

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contacted me to nominate Dr. Cole for
the award this award. I've had the

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pleasure to know Dr. Cole and his family
for approximately 5 years now. When I

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think of Dr. Cole, I think of simply one
that puts county and people over self.

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You do not have to look hard to find Dr.
Cole. One minute he is working at the

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ticket booth at the county fair, the
next minute he is administering health

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care to a patient, and the next minute
he is attending a meeting to help steer

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the county with the strategic vision
plan.

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Like many of the residents of Patrick
County, Dr. Cole does so with humility,

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compassion, and a deep love and
commitment to Patrick County. And sir,

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you have the resolution. Would his
family like to come up while they read

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the resolution?
>> Proclamation of the Board of Supervisors

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of Patrick County, Virginia, honoring
Dr. Richard Cole for a lifetime of

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extraordinary service.
Whereas Dr. Richard Cole was raised in

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Patrick County, harboring a vision from
the tender age of five to become a

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physician and return to his roots to
dedicate his life to the health and

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well-being of his neighbors. And whereas
fulfilling that lifelong dream, Dr.

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Cole, alongside his wife and their six
children, returned to Patrick County in

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1984, establishing the Patrick County
Family Practice in 1990, which has since

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grown to employ approximately 50
dedicated staff members.

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And whereas for over four decades, Dr.
Cole has selflessly assumed the massive

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responsibility and financial burden of
recruiting physicians to the region, a

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vital community service traditionally
managed and funded by local hospitals.

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And whereas Dr. Cole has consistently
demonstrated unparalleled integrity and

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devotion to his staff, routinely
prioritizing the payroll of his

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employees over his own financial
compensation.

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And whereas during periods of immense
instability, when the local hospital

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repeatedly closed and reopened, and
others sought higher ground, Dr. Cole

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remained an unwavering anchor, ensuring
that the citizens of Patrick County were

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never left without essential medical
care. And whereas at immense personal

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financial loss, Dr. Cole independently
purchased a CT scan machine to expand

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critical diagnostic capabilities within
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And repeatedly worked grueling overnight
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putting in full days at his his
practice, often receiving no

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compensation from hospital owners.
And whereas when the hospital closed yet

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again during the onset of the COVID-19
pandemic, Dr. Cole courageously stepped

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up into the gap by opening an urgent
care office, equipping it with a vital

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x-ray and lab services, and becoming one
of the first in the nation to secure

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Salvia lab
the Salvia Salvia lab machine for rapid

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COVID-19 diagnosis.
And whereas at the age of 71, Dr. Cole

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continues to work an astonishing 100
hours per week managing a practice that

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serves 38,000 patients on the books, and
continuing his relentless recruiting

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recruitment efforts to fill a critical
shortage of area physicians. Now,

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therefore, be it resolved that the
Patrick County Board of Supervisors does

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hereby recognize and commend Dr. Richard
Cole as the Patrick County partner for

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his heroic selflessness, his enduring
sacrifices, and his monumental

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contributions to the health, safety, and
longevity of Patrick County and its

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citizens.

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» [applause]

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[applause]

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» Thank you.

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That was very nice. I appreciate it.
I don't know what else to say.

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» That's a picture, please.

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» I got it.
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» Thank you.
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nice.
We certainly appreciate you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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» And then we have employee recognition.

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» Miss Ruth Galper, come on up here.

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I don't think I need a microphone.
Uh this month we recognize another one

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of our stellar performers from our
Patrick County administration team. This

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Ruth Russell. Miss Ruth has been
employed by Patrick County for 18 years.

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It comes cliche to say this, but she is
much more to our team than just working

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in the finance department. I think I've
said that before, but Ruth certainly

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isn't is, excuse me. When I think of
Ruth, I was always sent back my first 2

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weeks
working for Patrick County. I was

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aggressive and I was new to the job and
people thought both people did not know

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where I fit in to question. To say Ruth
and I bumped heads for about 3 months

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would be an understatement. Um I guess
the just of it I was chasing things and

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directed to do things that Miss Ruth had
already done so, but she had all the

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answers, too.
Ruth is not only instrumental in

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our finance department. Ruth is a key
player on our team. The quiet, unspoken

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hero of the things that happen, but
often can be overlooked. If I need

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something done and I need it fast, I ask
Ruth. Recently, the administration team

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is going through quite a large turnover
of personnel. We are hurting, to be

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honest with everyone, and Ruth has
stepped up big time. Not only has she

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stepped up and made an impact, she has
done so working on holidays and during

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her time off. Ruth has taken a difficult
job and all the responsibilities

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associated with it and done so for our
team and for Patrick County. Ruth has

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answers, Ruth provides guidance for her
teammate, and Ruth accomplishes her task

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efficiently and does so unassuming well.
Ruth may not be aware of this as I'm

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sure most people on my team isn't.
One day Ruth

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came to my office and told she told me
thanks and she said she appreciated me.

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It was one of the few days that I had
that was bad and I sure didn't need to

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hear that.
It made my day. I needed a good word

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that day and it came from Ruth. So,
Ruth, thank you again.

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You pushed me through a rough day and in
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that is what Ruth brings to the table.
We always do not hear thank you and we

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always do not have a good day.
Our team is just people like the rest of

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our citizens, but Ruth and people like
Ruth make a difference as she did to me

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personally that day as she does for my
team daily. And thank you for being on

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our team because we appreciate you.

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» In
in sincere appreciation of your 18 years

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of dedicated service and invaluable
contributions to the success of Patrick

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County.

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» I guess he's talking about the song.
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» Here's the ball.

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» All righty, and Mr. Cox, you can go
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» First of all, I would like to extend a
word of thanks to the various

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organizations in Happy Camp.
The Stuart Road Club

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and veteran organizations,
Mission Road Club, all that.

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The newly formed Blue Star Mothers
organization

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and the VA service officer that came
down and gave us a unit 10

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and
put a program called

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Pints for Valor
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a program designed to make veterans
aware of

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services and service agencies that might
be able to help them

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navigate through their problems with
being a veteran.

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And I I think Stuart Road deserves a big
thank you

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uh for those efforts.
Now, I ask your indulgence for a few

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minutes as I make my comments.

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For the past 6 months and the beginning
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2026
or 2025,

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we started to celebrate America's 250th
birthday.

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There have been celebrations all over
the nation

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and the awarding of this.

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Tonight, as I make my comments, I hope
you will keep that celebration in mind.

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I'm not a legal scholar, teacher, or a
preacher.

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I make these comments to the proud
citizens of these United States of

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America.
They're made in effort to refresh our

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minds what it to be a citizen
as we continue to celebrate 250th

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anniversary
of the founding of our great nation.

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It would be erroneous and a plain of
error to not recognize that the United

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States is a nation of immigrants.
Immigrants through hard work and a dream

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of hope
that permeated their goals to establish

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a future for themselves and their
descendants

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in a country that provided them
opportunities

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of life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness.

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As a result of laws of immigration, we
are a diverse nation

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with diverse goals,
but one coordinated goal of becoming a

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united nation.

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The objective of this diverse population
is first found

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in the preamble to our Constitution, and
not the Constitution itself.

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Constitution was developed to guide us
in our choices towards leading the

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intended republic
that provided the opportunities and

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liberties our founding fathers
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Those words are
"We the people of the United States, in

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order to form a more perfect union,
establish justice, insure domestic

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tranquility,
provide the common defense, promote the

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general welfare,
and secure the blessings of liberty

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to ourselves and our posterity, do
ordain and establish this Constitution

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for the United States of America."

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Our forefathers could not envision all
the social, economic, and political

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strife that we see in today's society,
but the document they created was a

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living document
with certain inalienable rights granted

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not by man, but by God.
Over the centuries of our existence,

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this document has evolved
by providing amendments to our

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Constitution
that has filled our basic unquestionable

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rights in the first 10 amendments that
we now refer to as our Bill of Rights.

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Our founding fathers were wise enough to
recognize that a developing nation

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needed guidance and direction
to avoid becoming an authoritarian

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dictatorship or principality ruled by
kings and princes.

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They chose a form of government that
would be ruled by the people and for the

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people
and not to be dictated to by one

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individual or group of people.
And our leaders were selected to be

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selected by the will of the people.
Our representatives

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were never intended
to seek their patriotism and self-

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unselfish acts of service as a means to
personal success, fame,

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and economic riches through their
efforts and thanks to their business.

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Our fathers recognized that being an
elected representative

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was not to be used to gain power and
authority

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as a result of their elected position.
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that unempowered power and authority
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was rife with the opportunity to
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Fathers never intended for our elected
officials of public service

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to become a career profession.
Many of the planners of our nation

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have suffered
loss of financial gain and property.

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Indeed, many of the planners
of this nation were deprived of their

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properties, rendered penniless, and some
even faced certain death.

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Nevertheless, they stood up to those
tyrannical acts in pursuit of a more

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unified and just nation.

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Over the course of our nation's history,
we've lost many heroes in faith

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to the ravages of war.
World War II, Korea, Vietnam,

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and so many other actions that have
caused the disability and death of so

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many soldiers and leaders
who took an oath to protect and defend

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our country against all enemies,
foreign and domestic.

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Their sacrifices and sacrifices their
families have not been in vain.

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Political ideology
and even communist communist and

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socialist
ideology is the most serious risk

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threatening the stability of our great
nation today.

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We are at risk from outside sources,
but the greatest risk all Americans face

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is within our own country,
domestic terrorists.

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Today,
as this meeting began, we asked you to

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stand with the four survivors
with the service and hearing and

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swearing
and repeat our nation's pledge of

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allegiance.
I ask you to take a moment and think

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about your pledge, what it means to the
future of our great country.

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I ask you to remember what has gotten us
to this 250th celebration of our

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country,
and while we still share the great hope

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» [clears throat]
>> of liberty,

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pursuit of happiness for all of its
citizens.

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God bless the USA.
I thank you our citizens,

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our elected representatives,
and hopefully

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the hope that can still be our guiding
light.

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Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir.

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All righty, we will proceed to the
public comment period.

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And first on the list is Tara Burgess.

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» Sorry, I'm a little bit slow.
>> Take your time.

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» I don't want to climb up on that box.

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Can you hear me?
>> Yes, ma'am.

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» Okay. Um,
I'm here to speak in opposition to

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closing Dogwood Road. You know, it's
been going on for a while.

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Uh,
pardon me while I get my notes cuz I

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can't remember anything anymore.
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I feel the Dogwood Road should remain
open serving all the public as an open

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thoroughfare.
The school board should not control or

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steal public property from the public
who are currently using it, especially

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when that property is being used every
day, all day. We use that road when we

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go to vote, we go Walmart, transfer
station, Tractor Supply, Do It Best, the

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hospital, Stagecoach Coffee, the
courthouse, the county offices, this

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meeting,
the library, nonstop, and everything

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else in Stewart.
>> [clears throat]

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» And I feel that saying, "Oh, but the
children." is gross emotional

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manipulation. There are other are of
dealing with student safety than to

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endanger those same children and their
families and everyone else trying to

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make blind exit at crossover. Vdot
offered alternatives

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that seem like they would work to me.
In addition to that, I would like to

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point out that the current safety
measures for that area cannot be

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fairly judged because

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they're not even completed. There is no
warnings limit, you know, the flashing

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15 mile an hour warning sign of the
school zone. There is none coming in

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from Harden Reynolds.
There is also on on Abbott Penn coming

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south
um there is no 25 mile an hour marking

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when you come over that hill. There is a
15 mile an hour flasher, but there is

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not 25 mile an hour which contributes to
the lack of safety there.

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» [cough and clears throat]

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» Um there is however a shiny new 25 mile
an hour sign right before that school

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crossing
which would lead people to think, oh,

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now it's maybe up to 25 not down at 15
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Um I feel that choosing the nuclear
option of closing this

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the road is short-sighted and if and
when the needs of the citizens change

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and we end up closing or relocating
HRMS, we can't just open Dogwood Road

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right back up because that road won't
meet current Vdot standards. It's

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currently grandfathered in, but if you
close it, we won't be able to get it

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back.
I feel that closing Dogwood Road does

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active harm to the community of Crites
by removing the central point where

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those roads come together. It remove the
central feeling of that intersection and

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impede access to the envisioned Crites
community center and park.

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Feel that closing Dogwood Road does
active harm to new businesses in the

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area, notably Clay and Twig and the now
it has a name Glenn's Grill

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uh that just opened.
And the envision community or Vision

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Crates Community Center and Park will be
another place the students will cross

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the road to get to. Are you going to
close

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as the school board going to close the
Abbott Penn next? It also has safety

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issues for the students and community
such as that blind hill.

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And where will we be voting? Will we
move that voting area because we can't

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get to that gymnasium anymore? Where
will the recycling bins go?

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I think that VDOT and the citizens have
given you many other reasonable options

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besides ripping up that road.
I know [clears throat] public service is

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hard especially when the pool of decent
people willing to serve is limited and

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people accuse those of serving in
multiple roles of nefarious motives.

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I've been there.
I believe that

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» [clears throat]
>> you chose I believe in you because you

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chose to serve us and I hope that you
will come to a good compromise for all

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as this decision will have lasting
effects for our community. Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» [applause]

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» And next is Stanley Fain.

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» First of all,
I'll let you folks in up there

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understand that you have a thankless
job.

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I certainly appreciate everything you
do. I mean and I know you're in a

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situation
that many times that you're sitting here

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and you've got to think discuss this
either right or wrong and then it's

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sometimes not a good middle road and
then it's it's just a bad situation.

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I am here tonight to speak of our PSA.
I think the train's already left on this

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situation I'm talking about.
Understanding it was a public hearing I

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knew nothing about. Um
not sure how you notify that, but

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anyway, I I I got word of it through a
Facebook post the

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uh like 5:00 today of.
But anyway, so what's happening in

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situation? PSA is good for Paden
Springs. It really is. In all reality,

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back whenever Jimmy Easton Bobby Polin
and

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and all those folks got together and
know knew that Paden Springs had a

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problem and it's no doubt that PSA's
good.

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The problem we got is there's some folks
being charged and not using an ounce of

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water or or treatment one ounce of
sewage into system.

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And so, they're getting I don't know
again if it's going [clears throat] to

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be an increase or not. I'm assuming it's
going to be an increase for that, but

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what's happening
for whatever how many years it's been

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going on with them paying for this and
not using an ounce of it.

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So,
if I look at fairness, which we all

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should probably look at fairness in
government and everything else we're

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talking about,
is it fair to raise the price for

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someone not buying anything
or not using anything?

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I don't I'm looking. I'm not sure any of
you folks out there are even

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using PSA for sewage. Is that right?
John, are you?

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So, you know, it's only the small area
of Paden Springs and I'm not sure what

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the budget PSA is, but it seems like
that somewhere along the line they

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forgot that
you know, if you own property, you're

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having to pay this mandatory fee whether
you use it or not.

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I I would like for you guys to kind of
look at this and see if it's something

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that that you can do at least to keep
the increases from going up or just just

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say, "Well, let's go ahead and increase
everybody whether you're using it or

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not."
Um I I know again I'm asking you

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probably something other that you
think's no big deal, but in my

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situation, I've got a shop that's
closed.

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It'll be around 900 bucks this year.
Uh or or more

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for nothing.
And I'm sitting here scratching my head,

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"What do I do about this?" Well, I guess
they'll probably don't do anything. If I

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don't pay it, you're going to you're
going to go ahead and assess my

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property. So, somewhere along the line
you're getting money out of it, but

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you know, when it gets to the point that
whenever you're paying for something,

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what do you get out of it?
In this case, if you're not hooked up

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and using it,
like like that particular one is, uh

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you're getting nothing for it.
So, I'd ask you kind of look at this and

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see if it's really fair to be doing this
to landowners that's not hooked up. I

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guess you call it a uh
What is it called? What kind of fee is

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it called?
>> Service fee.

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» Service fee, whatever. But anyway, I
again, I think the trains are left on

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this one, but but anyway, I just want to
bring it to attention that that that

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maybe you're not aware of what's going
on with this, and you're probably

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looking at so much stuff you don't
understand it, but but I'm sure there's

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some other folks who are going to be a
little bit upset about if we get an

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increase on this thing again for not
nothing kind of usage.

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I didn't sign up for the road deal, but
I think you don't need to close that

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road, by the way, as well.
I appreciate your time.

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» Thank you very much.

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And Rhonda Pruitt.

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» Hello.
Normally, I'm here to talk about the

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food bank. Tonight, that's not yet, but
I want to say thank you for everything

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y'all have done here while I'm in person
um to help us in the past year.

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Today, I'm talking about the road
closure at Hard Reynolds Memorial

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School.
I am a rebel.

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I am a proud rebel. And I was in the
first sixth grade class after the

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Patrick Springs-Hard Reynolds merger.
So, I get to say that. I was in that

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first sixth grade class.
All four of my children attended there,

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and so did my daddy, which was before
me, obviously. My son is 33. He was one

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of the seventh grade boys basketball
champions at that school.

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My daughter's 31, she cheered. My other
daughter's 24, she was the seventh grade

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girls basketball champions,
and

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played on the first softball team ever
that came to HRMS.

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My youngest daughter's 21. She was in
the van and played softball at Hardin

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Reynolds.
None of them were hit crossing the road.

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And you know why?
Because of the staff.

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We have an excellent staff at that
school.

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Hardin Reynolds is not a primary school.
When these kids come there, in the

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fourth grade, fourth, fifth, sixth, and
seventh grade, they're preparing to go

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to the high school
where they walk across a five-level

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parking lot every day.
Possibly, some of them.

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So, we are preparing them to go on.
We're not treating them like children.

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We want them to grow. We want them to be
you know, we want them to succeed.

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That That's what we're here for.
And they know the word stop and go. And

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when they they tell you, when you come
on your third grade trip,

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you don't go across that road without
somebody with you.

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You have to have somebody with you. And
that continues throughout their

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schooling there. I've been there. I
know.

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My kids will tell you.
They make a point to drill it in the

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child's head. If you want to play in the
gym, if you want to go to recess in the

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gym, you got to follow the rules.
Because we can stay inside.

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You can stay on the basketball court not
going in the gym where it's cool.

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Now,
you might be saying that I don't have a

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dog in this fight because I don't have
kids that go there anymore, but that'd

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be where you're wrong.
Because

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,880
I am the poll chief for the Creasy
District precinct at Hardin Reynolds

444
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:12,840
Memorial School gym.
We are the largest precinct in Patrick

445
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,280
County with over 1,700 registered
voters.

446
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Have any of you thought about where
you're going to put us?

447
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,960
Where will we go to vote? You can't tell
us they're not going to vote.

448
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:27,840
You got to find somewhere for them to
go.

449
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:31,720
That That's where they are all used to.
So,

450
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,720
surely there are other ways to
accomplish whatever goal it is that

451
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,880
you're after.
Maybe crossing gates, crossing guards,

452
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,480
you know, like they have at railroads.
Push a button.

453
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,720
Gate goes down, kids go across, gate
goes up.

454
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,880
I mean,
surely that would be less expensive

455
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:54,800
than
taking up this road and making the the

456
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:58,160
adjustments to cross over road.
I mean, and then during the

457
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:03,640
uh
winter break or when you're during the

458
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,800
summer, leave them up if nobody's there.
Maybe have the school resource officer

459
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:11,240
pull his car up and him stand on this
side while they go across.

460
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,960
You're taxing an already poor county
with making adjustments to a current

461
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,000
road and closing one that there's
nothing wrong with.

462
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,000
You know, if you're looking for things
to do with the school, I mean, help them

463
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,680
figure out the car rider line situation,
which is always out to Crooked Spur

464
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Baptist Church
in the road because there's nowhere for

465
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,880
them to go.
There has to be a solution other than

466
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:37,000
closing the road. And it's it's just
ridiculous that this has gone on this

467
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:41,640
long. We have no stoplight at a four-way
intersection in Patrick Springs where

468
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,920
people get hurt and killed all the time.
But yet,

469
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:49,240
nobody will They We can't put a light
there. But nobody's been injured

470
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,320
at the school.
So, it's been that way for many years.

471
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,800
Remember the saying, "If it ain't broke,
don't fix it"?

472
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:01,280
I can think of numerous purposes for the
money that you're wanting to spend on

473
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,666
this road.
Thank you.

474
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,686
» Thank you.
>> [applause]

475
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:15,360
» And next we have Don Wood.
>> Dan

476
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,360
» Dan

477
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:28,320
» Thank you. I wanted to talk about
Appalachian Power.

478
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Specifically, their family or their
practices and how they take land and how

479
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:36,600
they use land.
I live out by Fairdale. They're

480
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:43,120
rerouting that power line. I asked them
to consider doing something differently

481
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:48,960
um because of my health condition. I'm
allergic to a chemical called Bronopol

482
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:52,280
that is in herbicides and insecticides.
Herbicides

483
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:58,960
are very dangerous to me. I'm going to
pay a price just for being here tonight.

484
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:03,760
So, instead of doing that,
it appears that they go hog wild. I

485
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,720
actually met with them and talked to
them about, "Please let me know when

486
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,960
they're spraying."
And they did not. I found out they

487
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:15,160
sprayed the other end of Fairdale Road
when my foot swelled up and I ended up

488
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:19,520
in crutches for 3 months.
I called and asked to speak to whoever

489
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:23,680
was in charge of this operation,
and they put me in touch with the young

490
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:28,960
fellow at AEP who proceeded to explain
to me exactly what chemicals they use,

491
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:35,760
about how they mixed four different
brands of chemicals together, including

492
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:40,960
one called Aquacide.
I asked him, "Are you sure you used

493
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Aquacide?" And he said, "Yes."
Aquacide, as the name implies, is

494
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,960
intended to be used for aquatic
vegetation.

495
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Not intended to be sprayed all over the
road.

496
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,120
When it's used,
at least in my experience, like at

497
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Jordan Lake, North Carolina, before the
state of North Carolina used Aquacide,

498
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,440
they posted notices all over the
community

499
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,480
to let people know they're not supposed
to be swimming in the lake and to keep

500
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,560
their pets out of it and not to have any
fish

501
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:18,200
or eat any fish that comes from it.
Sorry, I'm nervous.

502
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:23,720
So, what do I see when I drive down
Union Bridge Road and across Goblin Town

503
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:28,720
Creek and I look upstream right now, I
can see where they sprayed

504
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:33,440
just recently, a lot.
If I look to the right, I can see where

505
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:38,920
that water goes right up to the swimming
area at Fairy Stone Lake.

506
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:44,680
I didn't see any cautions or warnings. I
didn't hear about any and I live there.

507
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:50,320
This is highly irregular.
Consistent with that, you can just look

508
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:55,880
at coming into town on Highway 8 when
you turn off 58 and you cut down on 8,

509
00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:00,040
you cross the Mayo Creek. Just look to
the right. Look at where they sprayed

510
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,600
all above the stream.
Not supposed to do that.

511
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:10,360
Along that same vein, while they were
out there before

512
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:15,280
several months ago, they started work
out there. I asked the guys to avoid one

513
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:20,120
particular section of the easement on my
property because I thought it had

514
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:23,640
wetland obligate species
that I thought it was an ephemeral

515
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,400
headland and that I was considering
converting it into a permanent

516
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,280
conservation easement so I can make a
little money off of it.

517
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:35,000
They might want to reconsider what their
plans were.

518
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,760
This Thursday, they showed up with
equipment and immediately the first

519
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:42,560
thing they did was they took a tracked
piece of equipment and drove all over

520
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:48,360
the section that I thought was a
wetland. Now, it may or may not have

521
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:53,520
been a wetland. Nobody tested the soils.
I know it had the hydrology and the

522
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:58,920
zoology but I don't know nobody dug any
holes in the ground to test it.

523
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:02,240
This is appalling.
It sucks.

524
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,240
I've only been here about a year and a
half and I'm looking at having to sell

525
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,520
out and move
because of Appalachian Power's business

526
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,480
practice.
All I I for was to be notified when they

527
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,960
were spraying and a little bit of
consideration as they were moving this

528
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,920
line
instead of putting it on my land, maybe

529
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:25,120
they can move it over to the state land
since the state is asking for this to be

530
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,120
done.

531
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,000
No consideration. In fact, they came out
and met with me to look at it and said,

532
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,560
"Yeah, that'd be a great idea. That
actually your plan looks like it would

533
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,480
be more workable, less expensive and
more efficient."

534
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,320
And then they came back without warning
and just started cutting trees.

535
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:48,640
They cut a tree in front of my house
today that had a 105-in circumference, a

536
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:55,600
white oak.
105 in circumference. That indicates

537
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:55,600
that that tree was alive when

538
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,200
the chestnut blight hit.
That would have been a tree that should

539
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,640
have been saved.
They should have tried to make an effort

540
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:10,320
to go around it.
They seemed

541
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:14,240
determined to take all the big trees
down on either side of that road

542
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:18,640
regardless of their status as
potentially being an old-growth tree.

543
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:24,760
I just wanted to make you aware of it
and aware of what kind of things they've

544
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:29,080
been doing.
And um I could speak much more about

545
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,480
other things I've noticed in their
business practice,

546
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,680
but I'll leave it at that for right now.
I'm just letting y'all know

547
00:43:34,135 --> 00:43:38,840
» [snorts]
>> that this is going on in your county.

548
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,160
I feel like they're taking advantage of
me on the

549
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:47,480
on my property rights.
I feel like they have taken advantage of

550
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:51,080
me because of my disability.
It's ugly and I would like to see

551
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,805
something done about it. Thank you very
much. Thank you.

552
00:43:53,785 --> 00:43:55,805
» [applause]

553
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,720
» And Ed Anthony.
>> Mr. Chairman.

554
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,120
» Yes.
>> Uh

555
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:11,040
would it be possible for for to come in
on Mr. Woods

556
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,040
discussion briefly.

557
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,800
» We normally don't comment on
public comment, but if you want to do

558
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,040
something afterwards,
you can do that.

559
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,120
» I'll be happy to make myself available
to you to talk.

560
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:26,000
» I'll be here afterwards.
>> Okay.

561
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,800
» Over here, sir. I'll start with you. Can
I ask a question of the

562
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,600
uh
people here?

563
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,520
» Sure.
Make it quick.

564
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:37,440
» Those of y'all who are against the road
closing

565
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:41,400
Harden Reynolds Memorial stand up just
about 3 seconds and sit back down.

566
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,080
Thank you all.

567
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Thank you all for hearing me for just a
minute.

568
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,600
Gentlemen,

569
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,440
good evening to the Board of
Supervisors, our county commissioner,

570
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:04,320
and press,
and others who are attending tonight.

571
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:07,880
On September 8th, 2025, the majority of
the BOS, excuse me, Board of

572
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Supervisors,
voted to disregard the request of the

573
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:16,760
people of Patrick County and the Mayo
River District to keep section

574
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:22,040
of Dogwood Road in front of Harden
Reynolds Memorial School in Critz,

575
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:25,600
Virginia, open.
The vote to close this section of the

576
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,480
road was brought to the Board of
Supervisors

577
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:34,720
by the school board.
This action was made without concerns of

578
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:40,040
ongoing businesses, patrons, and
citizens and landowners in the area.

579
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:46,720
We the people presented a petition of
466 signatures to keep the road open

580
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:51,920
with several safety precautions noted to
be installed such as

581
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:56,040
stop signs, flashing caution lights,
drop bars, and

582
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,960
uh at the crosswalk
to keep children safe.

583
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,600
The chairman of the
uh Board of Supervisors

584
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:09,320
accepted the petition to be entered into
the record of the minutes and no other

585
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,800
word of this petition has been noted by
the board since.

586
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:17,080
The road closure
was not a suggestion of VDOT.

587
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:24,080
The vote of the Board of Supervisors to
close the road became null and void

588
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:28,960
because of legalities. Number one, the
decision to vote

589
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:34,200
on the road closure was not properly
addressed as specified. It was supposed

590
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,800
to be announced in writing written form
in two newspapers

591
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:42,480
published at least
twice a month that month prior to the

592
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,200
meeting and it was not done. It was only
one done.

593
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:53,760
Number two, the resolution for the vote
to discontinue the road

594
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:58,760
that was filed with the County
Commissioner's office stated different

595
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:03,800
reasons for the road closure
than the original reason that was voted

596
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:10,600
on by the Board of Supervisors.
It stated the road no longer provided

597
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:14,480
public sufficient convenience to warrant
maintenance

598
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:19,840
instead of the safety reasons
that were proposed by the school board

599
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,600
at the meeting for the reason to close
the section

600
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:27,360
of the road
in front of

601
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,360
Harman Middle School.

602
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:36,000
If that were to If that road were to
close,

603
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:41,360
it'll never be reopened. I want you
gentlemen please think about that.

604
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,200
Without spending millions of dollars
for

605
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:50,480
uh
to bring it back into VDOT

606
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,480
road re- uh road system requirements.

607
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:58,680
You need to think about that now. Once
that road is closed,

608
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:02,000
it will never return.
What if someday something bad happens

609
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:06,360
like
and uh heaven forbid it ever happen

610
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:10,800
that our school closes.
Then that road is no longer there.

611
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,480
And it won't come back.
It'll never come back.

612
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,200
So,
I'd like to thank all of y'all, and all

613
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:25,040
the people who have helped us and are
still helping us to keep our road open.

614
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,880
Especially all the folks who collected
uh

615
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:31,520
signatures for our petition,
those who signed the petition,

616
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,120
those who attended the Board of
Supervisors meetings,

617
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,680
everyone who attended the community
meeting at Stella Christian Church this

618
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,520
past spring.
At um

619
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:46,200
Stella Christian Church, we can thank
them for offering us and allowing us to

620
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,480
use
their facility to meet.

621
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Thank you very much.
>> Thank you, sir.

622
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,720
And next is Leroy Trent.

623
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:15,520
» Well, I don't have anything wrote out,
but I do will tell you when I was a

624
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:20,360
little boy, I went to the school. I
never seen an accident there. I've never

625
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:25,040
heard of one being there, and I don't
think the road needs closing cuz it's

626
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:29,160
going to create a big hazard. I got a
tractor trailers we go through there

627
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,760
sometime, and we go through that road
that got It's going to be a disaster.

628
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,560
And when you think about all the
children,

629
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,880
all these people up forward is going to
get killed, and other people going to

630
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:44,120
get killed when they pull out over there
on Avery Penn Road

631
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,560
like in the wintertime,
we going to be caught out in the

632
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,320
sometime slick. And what you going to do
when you take out? First thing you going

633
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,040
to do is spill a bit slide to the ditch.
What are going to do when the cars

634
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:58,320
coming over the hill? They can't stop.
They're going to run right into the

635
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:02,080
buses. You need to think about the
children a little bit and quit thinking

636
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,800
about the school or whatever now. We
never had a problem.

637
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,880
And I don't see why we should even think
about closing that road.

638
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:15,640
Like I say, when we went to I went to
school, we parked cars there.

639
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:20,480
A lot of things different now.
We was crazy, but we had a lot of common

640
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:25,280
sense. We had good back in the good uh
uh vehicles. No no problem.

641
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:30,480
We behaved ourselves, but you know what
most of all, we know right from wrong.

642
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:34,360
Just like when we was little,
we'd ride a bicycle.

643
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,880
When we hear a car coming, we didn't get
out in the middle of road and think we

644
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:41,920
was a big truck or car and hog the road
up. We would get off the road and let

645
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:46,200
the cars go.
What has happened to the people? What

646
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:50,440
has happened to our decisions? Why don't
we think about this like the man said.

647
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,160
If you want to do something to improve
it, put some stripes up and down the

648
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:58,480
road there and let us know which side to
be on and mow the side of the road a

649
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:02,760
whole lot better than what we do and we
can all get along and see what's coming

650
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,800
and I think we'd be much better off.
That's all I got to say.

651
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,800
» Thank you, sir.

652
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,360
And next we have Steve Fearing.

653
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,280
» Thank you. Please.

654
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,640
I think I'm short one.
Thank you.

655
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,640
I think that was all of

656
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,560
» Well, good evening. Have a good evening.
We have a brief

657
00:52:14,211 --> 00:52:18,480
» [clears throat]
>> We have reviewed your budget

658
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,840
for 2026-27
fiscal year

659
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,640
and it would appear
that it

660
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,360
as well as the last one
is kind of a wag budget.

661
00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:31,360
» [snorts]
>> At the last meeting and again at this

662
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,120
one
you'll be approving a number of

663
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,840
transfers
from accounts

664
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,360
that were over budget
to cover expenses that were under

665
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:45,600
budgeted.
We're curious at the way you think these

666
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:48,960
transfers are necessary
and who's responsible for their

667
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:53,720
preparation for inclusion
in your board package.

668
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,760
We would think
that the Board of Supervisors budget

669
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:01,800
committee
would want a clean posting

670
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:05,920
of all expenses against budget
to revise the 2026-27

671
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:10,920
budget.
It makes sense.

672
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:14,680
There are several issues, however,
that your budget committee overlooked

673
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:19,440
that we will again call to your
attention.

674
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:24,120
The budget for inmate food
is once again very high.

675
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:30,440
If you calculate the daily cost of food
budgeted

676
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:35,120
you see that $8.70 $8.70
is the budgeted amount

677
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:39,240
per inmate
per day.

678
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:44,880
A year ago, the average cost per inmate
in the state of Virginia

679
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:50,120
was between $3.00 and $6.00.
You were above it last year, too.

680
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Even allowing for inflation,
we're paying far more than needed.

681
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,840
The last 2 years, we've mentioned this
discrepancy,

682
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,200
and have not been able to get an
agreement from either the Sheriff's

683
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:08,240
Department or the County Administrator
to re-bid the current

684
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:12,240
food contract. Last bid, I think, in
2021.

685
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,720
We propose that the County
Administration

686
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,400
be made responsible for the jail
administration

687
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:23,200
in order to provide transparency to the
taxpayers.

688
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:27,240
This proposal does not necessarily
increase the cost of running the jail,

689
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,840
since no new position would need to be
created,

690
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:37,920
but it would certainly give us better
control of the budget that's currently

691
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,920
being used to finance the jail.

692
00:54:38,967 --> 00:54:40,987
» [clears throat]

693
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:48,840
» So, we propose the County Administration
take it over.

694
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:53,000
The budget for our 911 service
is riddled with charges for

695
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:57,000
communication services that seem to be
duplicated, and in some cases,

696
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:01,040
triplicated,
with portions of these expenses shared

697
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,680
to other departments.
It appears that we could save a great

698
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:09,520
deal of money by consolidating or
eliminating these redundant legacy

699
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:13,240
systems.
This operation should also be assumed

700
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,680
and managed by the county,
because once again, we're faced with the

701
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:20,560
transparency issue
from the Sheriff's Department

702
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:24,640
when we were when we inquire as to the
management of our taxpayer dollars.

703
00:55:26,128 --> 00:55:28,148
» [clears throat]

704
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,640
» We hope
that the Sheriff's Department is not

705
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:40,520
only
mismanaging We hope that the Sheriff's

706
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:43,400
Department is only mismanaging our money
and that the lack of supplying

707
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,640
information is not symptomatic of
something more problematic.

708
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:52,200
We also propose that this unit be
managed by the county administration

709
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:58,960
to provide a venue that will allow for
the modernization of 911 services

710
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,960
and transparency of funding.

711
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,480
We previously asked the administration
to centralize the purchasing of

712
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:08,960
janitorial supplies for the county,
the jail, and the schools to save money.

713
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,240
In February, we queried the
administration regarding the status of

714
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:16,160
this request
and were informed that the bid for these

715
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:22,240
supplies was eminent.
To date, there's been no follow-up.

716
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:26,560
We had previously proposed 3 months ago
that the Board of Supervisors consider a

717
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,640
real estate tax cap for our senior
citizens

718
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:35,720
who have resided in the county for 20
years or more and are over 65

719
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:40,640
65 years of age.
This proposal has not been placed on the

720
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:45,960
agenda and addressed by the board.
Given the circumstances of the last

721
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:50,160
year, this is more important than ever.
Around 200 of our seniors are on the

722
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:55,520
cusp of losing their ability to pay
taxes and provide for their health,

723
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:59,560
food, and medications.
While we agree this is a side up side

724
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,960
objective,
while we agree that the employee

725
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:08,040
recognition for exemplary work on our
behalf is laudable,

726
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:13,160
we feel it's only a placebo if it's not
accompanied by a real reward, not just a

727
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:18,680
plastic dust collector.
Let's give a reward of a $100 gift card

728
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:21,960
to accompany that dust collector.
The cost of doing so once a month would

729
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:25,840
be easily covered by the savings in
janitorial supplies.

730
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,120
Thank you.
>> Thank you.

731
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,600
» Next, we have Vance AG.

732
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,080
» Good evening. Thank you for my time.

733
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:57,160
Some of the comments made prior to me
have pretty well said it probably

734
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:00,840
in more detail, but very clear with
regards to the closing of the Dogwood

735
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Road.
Basically, we now know that the request

736
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,880
and the vote for closing of the Dogwood
Road is null and void.

737
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,840
Therefore,
we start all over again.

738
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:21,240
VDOT offered up many alternatives as
noted.

739
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:28,720
You have 25% of that community even
petitioned against closing that road.

740
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:32,200
I think each one of you up there
swore and pledged to serve the

741
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:36,320
constituents
and the citizens and taxpayers of this

742
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,320
county.

743
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:43,720
And I think it was said earlier by
Mr. Cox,

744
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:49,640
you're not here to serve one individual
or one small group of people.

745
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:55,600
We want to serve for the best of all and
and more importantly, the majority.

746
00:58:53,840 --> 00:59:01,200
Further discussion and debate needs to
be in regards to

747
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:06,560
uh the alternatives for that road.
But I question this. I'm an inquisitive

748
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:11,040
person.
If that road is not worthy of being

749
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,520
maintained for the what few dollars it
is to put a little asphalt and

750
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:21,200
uh tar and gravel on it,
then I would also challenge the question

751
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:26,320
the legitimacy
of the enrollment and the head count for

752
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:30,720
the current and the next 10 years for
Hardin Reynolds School.

753
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:35,280
It's a business.
It's got a balance sheet.

754
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:40,800
And the revenues that come in as a
result of a legitimate enrollment and

755
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:46,120
head count needs to be considered.
Cuz the essential spending for the

756
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:51,640
payroll, maintenance, and operations of
that facility is part of the

757
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,640
expenditures.

758
00:59:54,040 --> 01:00:01,880
One of the supervisors
did some homework

759
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:04,600
and found no fatalities to students
over the decades that school's been

760
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:11,160
open.
And he also found that there are no

761
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:17,480
documented near misses at that facility.
The vehicular transportation accidents

762
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:21,600
were documented and noted.
Yes, it's a traffic issue.

763
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:28,280
The road
being concluded as being closed

764
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:34,400
as further, I guess,
disclosed begs the question.

765
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:40,440
We made some rash decisions and a rash
vote based on a uh very limited amount

766
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:45,920
of discussion and research. It was not
an emergency.

767
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:50,160
So, let's let's continue the discussion.
The safe the the safety resource

768
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,560
officers and the teachers have been good
stewards of the policies of the public

769
01:00:52,360 --> 01:01:00,240
schools
for that and all of the locations in

770
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,960
that's my opinion.
However,

771
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,520
if
we're trying to

772
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:14,280
uh
write a grant

773
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:17,960
for monies of any kind,
there's terms and conditions for the any

774
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:21,880
grants that come forth from this uh
county and/or

775
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:26,480
Commonwealth of Virginia. They all got
terms and conditions and it might

776
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:29,000
include matching grants.
Well,

777
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,080
if it's justified, I'm worthy of that
discussion.

778
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:43,200
But, we want to make sure we get our
money's worth.

779
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:47,120
And if the intent
Well, let's just say this.

780
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,680
I would like to have a copy of the grant
request. Who authored it and who signed

781
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:55,800
off on it?
Cuz what's the ulterior motive here?

782
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:59,920
More money.
And if we don't have enough money,

783
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:05,040
we go out Oh, we're going to borrow some
more money if we want to

784
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:08,320
allow ourselves to
be manipulated.

785
01:02:07,647 --> 01:02:12,640
» [clears throat]
>> It opens the door for wasteful

786
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:16,320
and fraudulent
expenditures.

787
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:20,760
And I'll use Meadows of Dan as a good
example of that. We experienced and

788
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:24,960
endured that years ago by previous
administration, okay?

789
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:30,120
We got to own it.
But, we're going to also manage it.

790
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,120
So, therefore,

791
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:38,000
I would conclude that
let's just call it

792
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:43,960
line item expenses.
Budget for what we really expect.

793
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:48,560
Moving money as was previously stated,
that's mis appropriation of funds.

794
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,920
You know, if one line of
lines out, then you come and make a

795
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,840
request.
But, we're not going to do it just

796
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:58,360
randomly because
it's in the budget.

797
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,800
Thank you.
>> Thank you.

798
01:03:02,668 --> 01:03:09,280
» [applause]
>> And last call, is there anybody else

799
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,280
that would like to speak?

800
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Come on up, Galen.

801
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:49,040
» Sorry about being a little bit late and
not getting in and signing up for

802
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,840
everything, but uh
my doctor kept me a little bit longer

803
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,120
than I wanted to with that laser
surgery.

804
01:03:53,160 --> 01:04:01,520
But uh
I am addressing the 58

805
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:06,920
intersection at Patrick Springs.
I went around with the new uh resident

806
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:13,920
engineer, I guess you'd say, about that
road. And she informed me that now it's

807
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:19,880
been classified as a scenic byway.
I don't know who, what, where, when, or

808
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,840
how this was done,
but

809
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:26,960
I don't think none of us Did y'all know
it was a scenic byway?

810
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:32,760
She says due to the fact it's a scenic
byway, we can't put a stop light there.

811
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,920
I call BS.
Something needs to be looked at in

812
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:40,440
another study because they've done a
study on that intersection.

813
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:45,440
And what they found in that study, they
have not done yet.

814
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:50,240
Which was involved in daylighting,
fixing the curbing that has been broke

815
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:55,329
up, plowing the snow and stuff.
And them things happen.

816
01:04:52,640 --> 01:05:01,000
But somewhere along the line, we need
[music] to look at

817
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:05,640
something being done down there
because it is

818
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:13,080
very, very, very dangerous.
And in reference to the Dogwood Road,

819
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:17,360
uh I went down there for the meeting
that they had at the church.

820
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:22,680
And went out by the new way they was
wanting to send us. And you have to pull

821
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:26,160
halfway out in Abram Penn
just to see down towards the post

822
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:30,760
office.
Now, how safe is that?

823
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:35,240
And where are they going to put the
people that pick up their kids that

824
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:40,480
lines up from the school all the way
past Wright's Baptist Church?

825
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:44,960
Uh, they've moved the little building
that was there back from the road. You

826
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:49,400
can see really good.
If

827
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:55,000
APCO would do their job and clean the
trees away from that telephone pole

828
01:05:52,600 --> 01:06:00,240
that is completely grown up with trees,
you would see the gym

829
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:05,400
plain as I'm looking at y'all right now.
So, I know there was a little courting

830
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:13,520
going on behind the doors
of some of the school board people of

831
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:19,160
wanting this road closed. And
I got involved in actually

832
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:24,200
seeing it happen.
So, I know they were courting the

833
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:28,720
supervisors to try to get this road
closed.

834
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:33,400
And the haste of doing this,
Lisa Price Hughes said if she knew that

835
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:38,520
y'all was going to vote to close that
road that night, she would never had

836
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:43,000
presented anything.
And it would have been a null and void

837
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:47,160
situation.
And they say they talked with the

838
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:50,600
Commonwealth attorney of the state of
Virginia.

839
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:55,080
And somebody that can't even spell
Virginia, our senator, is trying to tell

840
01:06:52,680 --> 01:07:01,240
us what to do down here. We don't need
it. That's BS, too.

841
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:06,040
So, let's keep that road open. Let's do
a new vote, new hearing,

842
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:09,880
and be done with this situation. We've
kicked this can down the road for the

843
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:15,520
last
12 months maybe.

844
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:20,760
And it's time to stick a fork in this
cuz this pig is done.

845
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,760
Thank you all very much.

846
01:07:24,016 --> 01:07:26,036
» [applause]

847
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:33,600
» All righty, and now we will go on to new
business

848
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,600
and we've got VDOT.

849
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,840
» In the
Pull the microphone over there to you.

850
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:00,640
» I'm sorry.
Um

851
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:06,280
in you all's packet you should have the
um um

852
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:11,120
documents for this this um
needed resolution for changes to

853
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:17,640
construct the uh
changes due to construction. Um this is

854
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:22,799
in regards to a section of 58 that was
widened. The construction actually

855
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:26,880
completed I think in 2016.
Um the project ran from

856
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:33,040
um
Big Reed Island Allen Creek in Carroll

857
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:37,279
County through Floyd County and then
about

858
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:43,960
3/4 of a mile into Patrick County and
connected with the four-lane section

859
01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:49,080
there and Meadows of Dan. And um
um once the the project was completed

860
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:56,000
this uh
this here is is needed just to finalize

861
01:08:52,960 --> 01:09:02,640
and get proper documentation for those
the changes done to the roadway and um

862
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:09,240
um
the the amount of changes is

863
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:12,560
on 58. It's 3/4 of a mile. And again,
it's it's

864
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:17,720
abandoning the section that was two lane
and adding it back as four lane. And

865
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:21,440
then those are also
0.05 mile change to a secondary

866
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:27,319
connection.
Um so, this resolution would just be to

867
01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:32,600
do the the
um next step of just getting this

868
01:09:29,799 --> 01:09:36,319
documentation finalized. We would submit
a package to central office just for it

869
01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:41,640
to be recorded.
>> Okay.

870
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:41,640
Does anybody have any questions?

871
01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:47,560
All right, I'll take a motion to
approve.

872
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:51,319
» I'll make the motion.
>> We have a motion. Do we have a second?

873
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,680
» Second.
>> A motion and a second. Any further

874
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,680
discussion?

875
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,280
All right, we'll proceed to vote. Mr.
Marshall.

876
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,600
» Aye.
>> Mr. Kendrick.

877
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,040
» Aye.
>> Mr. Cox.

878
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,080
» Aye.
>> Mr. Wood.

879
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,040
» Aye.
>> And I vote aye as well. Thank you very

880
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,840
much.
>> Um thank you.

881
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:21,080
» Then next we have um
Mrs. Kirsten Kirsten Beasley with a

882
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:25,720
grants update.
>> Yes, sir. She just wrote me while we

883
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:30,960
were here. Her child had a fever.
She found out that it was hoof and mouth

884
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:35,200
or something like that. So, she said she
could not be here, but um

885
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:38,840
as we spoke about before and in the
budget, we've had the county has had a

886
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:44,320
grant writer in there at least last
year. What we decided to do um

887
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:49,000
cost savings to the citizens as well, we
brought Kirsten Beasley, who's a local

888
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:54,760
Patrick County resident, on board. And
on July 1st, she attended a department

889
01:10:52,080 --> 01:11:00,640
head meeting for the county. Um she sat
down with any department head um

890
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:05,920
who was looking for grant support for
ideas. She spent 4 hours at the county.

891
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:12,440
She went back and she listed on her
spreadsheet the grants that she is going

892
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:15,640
to apply for and work for the county.
Um

893
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:20,080
Again, Kerstin's a
Patrick County lady.

894
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:24,360
Absolutely a joy to have on our team in
the capacity as a contractor for us.

895
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:28,080
Uh
probably the biggest thing is is looking

896
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:32,000
at what we're saving as a county. When
we did the budget, we had our budget

897
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:35,360
committee meetings when we were working
on it.

898
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:38,120
We cut the cost of grant writing for the
county probably in half.

899
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:41,600
Um
I told Kerstin, you know, we need some

900
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:45,800
results. We need some grants. We need
some businesses from EDA. We need a few

901
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,640
things to start shaking and making
things win, but uh

902
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:52,520
again, I just wanted to be able to
present Kerstin to you all this evening

903
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:56,360
so you would know that she has worked
for the county.

904
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:59,200
Um EMS has reached out to her different
sections.

905
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:03,520
Department heads have reached out to
her, spent a lot of time talking to her.

906
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:07,840
So, she will come every month on the
first work day of the month, have an

907
01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:11,560
open house in the county administration
building. Supervisors, if you have an

908
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:15,160
idea and there's something that you
heard of or if you're chasing,

909
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,080
please use her.
And um

910
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,600
No, that was it. I just wanted just to
do a uh

911
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:25,840
formal introduction from Kerstin, which
again, her child is sick this evening

912
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:29,680
and she stayed home.
Look, any questions on that, gentlemen?

913
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,960
Any questions from the board?

914
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:39,600
All right. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you, sir.

915
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:44,560
» We will proceed to old business. Mr.
Mike Bailey man

916
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,560
from APCO.

917
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:54,080
» Good evening. Thank you for for me here
this evening.

918
01:12:52,120 --> 01:13:00,120
Tonight, [snorts] I was here to discuss
the uh line route along the rail trail.

919
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:05,120
From our previous meetings, we got your
feedback about the overhead lines and

920
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:09,200
some concerns about
how that might impact future development

921
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:13,520
on the parcel. To help address those
concerns, we have

922
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:18,280
put together this map here, which I has
been passed out, where instead of

923
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:23,120
overhead, it is now an underground line
which will be following the tree line.

924
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:26,560
This underground line has a 20-ft
right-of-way down from the 40-ft

925
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,640
right-of-way of the previous overhead
line.

926
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:33,040
And
from our discussions out in the field,

927
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:36,960
Mr. Overby, um
we feel that this addressed the concerns

928
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:40,960
about
future use of the parcel as well as

929
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:44,000
allowing room for that picnic shelter
that you had discussed and things of

930
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:50,120
that nature.
To explain this map on a uh

931
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:54,480
more detailed level,
it still would be an overhead line where

932
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:59,240
that red line is going across the rail
trail where it will get to the double

933
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:03,640
circuit A-frame pole within the tree
line. Once it reaches the tree line,

934
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:08,120
those lines will go underground where it
will then follow the tree line until you

935
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:12,360
get to the box that sits splice boxes.
With this being a double circuit, there

936
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:17,280
would be one box per circuit in that
area and it would then follow the line

937
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:21,280
up until it gets to the parking lot. It
will go underneath the parking lot.

938
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:23,640
There will be and then they will go
above ground

939
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,520
to meet [clears throat] with the
existing lines on the opposite side of

940
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:32,840
the parking lot.
Um I also have our

941
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:39,360
customer design supervisor here. If you
have any questions related to

942
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:43,560
the design on a more technical level and
I guess at this point, do you all guys

943
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:49,240
have any questions or comments or
concerns with this underground

944
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,240
line route.

945
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,640
» Um, I have a question for you.
>> Yes, sir.

946
01:14:53,960 --> 01:15:00,640
» I understand App Alliance is going to
take several pieces of parcels of land

947
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:04,880
right in there.
Why were those parcels not chosen to

948
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:09,160
route this instead of
going along the route it is now?

949
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:14,040
» So, the reason why Appalachian Power did
not go with the parcel to the south of

950
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:19,240
the Mayo River, and you can see that on
this map that uh

951
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:24,880
with all the woods is with that being
such a steep grade, it was going to be

952
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:29,440
quite difficult as well as um to install
it as well as difficult to get to that

953
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:33,840
line in for maintenance as well as
emergency situations. It's something

954
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:37,840
where um
the right-of-way would have to be

955
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:42,480
cleared much more than 40 ft to allow
for those poles to be there safely, as

956
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:47,280
well as with how steep it is,
um it would be quite difficult to have

957
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:50,960
those poles safely installed onto the uh
mountain that way.

958
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:55,800
» So, would that be a cost measure as
opposed to

959
01:15:53,720 --> 01:16:00,480
serviceability
consideration?

960
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:05,920
» Cost is not the only factor, um but
yes, the serviceability is the main

961
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,920
issue there.

962
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,920
» The The blue line on your map
>> Yes.

963
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,800
» running here
That's currently a line of some type,

964
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:21,000
correct?
>> That is correct. That is an existing

965
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,000
distribution line.

966
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,440
» So,

967
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,640
as Mr. Godsey said,
Patrick County owns 9 acres down in

968
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:33,040
there.
AEP owns over 280 acres.

969
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,560
You already have a line across the
river.

970
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:41,000
Has that land not had timber cut off of
it in the last little bit?

971
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:44,200
Part of what AEP owns or am I completely
mistaken there?

972
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:47,520
» I'm not sure of any timber clearing that
has been going on. If there has been any

973
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,720
on that parcel. Um
>> Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong piece of

974
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,760
land.
>> But yeah, this this particular piece of

975
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:56,840
land um
that we're looking at on this map is

976
01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:00,640
opposite of the rail trail. Um
I'm not sure of any tree clearing on any

977
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:04,920
of the other parcels.
>> It's like I said, it's

978
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:09,040
249 acre tract, which is pretty good
piece. If I remember right, it goes all

979
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:13,600
the way over to the uh
I don't know what that road is back

980
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:17,040
there. Back on the back side. Um
>> Wayside?

981
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:20,120
» Basically goes to wayside.
Thank you, Kenny.

982
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:24,480
Um
So, I'm just uh

983
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,680
also about that as well.
Um

984
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,880
So, we're still going to have a double
hitch

985
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:35,760
frame hole at Winding Splice Box. How
big is the splice box? Is that a

986
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,240
We're talking about a car or a human
size? We're talking

987
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:43,240
over a home size? I don't know.
>> At at this point in time, it's still to

988
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:45,840
be determined the exact size of the
splice boxes.

989
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,400
Um
Do you have any information on the

990
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,000
splice boxes?
>> Yeah, the splice boxes that we use with

991
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:54,640
this this these two circuits. And of
course, this is the main line. So, we're

992
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:57,840
using pretty much the largest
underground cable that we have to be

993
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:02,680
able to handle the load. The splice
boxes that are used are somewhere

994
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,760
They do stand about this tall, somewhere
at our level. And they're probably about

995
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,960
um
1 and 1/2 times as big as this podium.

996
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:13,400
Just as a generalization of what the
size of the splice box is.

997
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,280
And to address what you're talking about
going across the river, if you go take a

998
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,840
look at that, that land when it leaves
the river, it pretty much goes straight

999
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:23,640
up.
And it'd be the same way. Yes, there's a

1000
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:28,080
line that goes over it in with the
grade. And as you can think about

1001
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:31,240
driving a tractor, driving a car,
if you're driving up the hill, it's

1002
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:35,320
different than trying to drive across
it. And that's the way the new line

1003
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:39,600
would need to come is across that grade.
So, to be able to try to get any type of

1004
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:43,840
equipment over there, the amount of of
um grading work that would need to be

1005
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:48,480
done, but also more so than just getting
it built. And this is one thing we do

1006
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:52,240
have to try to take in consideration is
getting it built the first time is

1007
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:58,240
probably the easiest thing that you can
do. Maintaining that line from that

1008
01:18:55,200 --> 01:19:03,320
point on is where you end up um
affecting your customers as far as the

1009
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:06,560
time frame it takes to get back to it uh
so that we can try to restore the power

1010
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,000
as efficiently and quickly as as
possible.

1011
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:16,400
» Have you ever encountered circumstances
such as this in other areas,

1012
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:19,640
particularly along Muscle Shoals Road?
>> As far as having facilities

1013
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:24,480
Yeah.
>> Where you've got environmental factors

1014
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:28,400
such as this. You say it's too steep.
And yet you own 200 and some acres

1015
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:31,920
through there. Is there not separate
access ways that you can get in without

1016
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:36,600
having
to follow the route you're prescribing

1017
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:40,680
now? That would be just big economical?
>> Just a No, this right here is the most

1018
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:46,240
economical way that we have to try to
build this line. It is determined to be

1019
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:51,200
the most reliable way for the customers
and the people of Paster County to have

1020
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:55,560
this line built this way.
>> Just a curiosity, why does that Why does

1021
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:59,320
AEP have that much land on side of the
river that they can't use?

1022
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:02,680
» Now, that as far as the land purchase
when it was Whatever was negotiated cuz

1023
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:05,160
I'm assuming it was part with the
station as far as that work there.

1024
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:10,240
» Yes.
>> I don't have any information over there

1025
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:15,640
uh Mr. Kendrick to to know decisions or
um

1026
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:19,920
I do know that at times to get one piece
you're made to get all of it.

1027
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:24,720
And that's a possibility to to get the
piece that was needed

1028
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:29,160
it was required to get get this also.
That possibly.

1029
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:33,480
» If I may add, my name's Robinham with
Appalachian Power also. That was one

1030
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:37,440
large tract. So, that that's how that
particular annexation went. Seller

1031
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,520
wanted to sell the entire tract of
property. So, that's why we have so much

1032
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:45,120
property.
>> Why did you need that much property

1033
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:47,840
AEP for AEP? Why did you need just for
curious reasons? Why did you need that

1034
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:52,120
much property in that area?
>> We It's proposed for a new station.

1035
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,560
It's going to be the mayor of River
Station.

1036
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,520
» Okay. And And another thing that
concerns me a little bit with that line,

1037
01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:00,960
too, is right the other side of the
jail. Doesn't it come across a pretty

1038
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:04,960
good-sized piece of property that the
EDA owns?

1039
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,960
Or the county?

1040
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:16,120
» Uh on
It would be a piece of land that would

1041
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:16,120
go between the rail trail and the jail.

1042
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:23,280
» I'm not quite sure where that Is that Is
that parcel shown on this map?

1043
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:26,356
» I'm not sure, either. I can't tell heads
or tails from these lines.

1044
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:30,600
All these lines, right?
>> [laughter]

1045
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:36,200
» I see. But So, shown on this map is the
Patrick County Jail, EMI Imaging, and

1046
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:42,680
then to the far left, there is the
parking lot to the rail trail. So, if

1047
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:47,560
I I'm I might be misunderstanding the
question here, but to talk about the

1048
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:52,160
parcel that is owned by the EDA, the
only parcel owned by the EDA that is on

1049
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:57,000
this map is the parcel that contains the
parking lot for the rail trail.

1050
01:21:54,440 --> 01:22:01,680
Um for the parcel you're speaking of,
I'm not 100% sure of where it's located.

1051
01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:05,080
So, I'm not
>> It concerns me a little bit cuz if you

1052
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:08,760
can put it on the other side of the
river, it might clear up that piece of

1053
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:13,800
land instead of dividing it up to where
it can't be used or utilized later on.

1054
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:17,600
That That concerns me a little bit, too.
And I may be wrong on it, too, but I

1055
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:22,000
think we still got about 12 acres
uh right there beside of that Probably

1056
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:25,160
beside of EMI.
And if that if that rail comes across

1057
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,640
what I've seen in some of these
pictures, it's going to be detrimental

1058
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,920
there, too. Or if you could get on the
other side of the river, it might

1059
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:36,520
prevent both problems.
>> I I I see, but like

1060
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:40,400
like Brian explained, I mean, we we're
not we're not currently pursuing the

1061
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:44,680
line on being on the other side of the
river river due to those concerns

1062
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,760
regarding serviceability.
>> Well, I can understand that too, but it

1063
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:51,560
it bothers me a little bit on on the
real chill property, you know, that was

1064
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,960
grants and everything else put up for
that, and even though it's under the

1065
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:58,920
ground, how how far would it be
underground? Will it be protected by

1066
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:01,360
conduit or what what's the arrangements
on all that?

1067
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:04,920
» Yes, the line would be protected by
conduit. As to how far it would be

1068
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:09,240
underground, would you
>> be a minimum of 48 in below the ground.

1069
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:12,160
It will be installed in conduit,
protected by conduit.

1070
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,920
» Um
>> The location where it's at now, from

1071
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:20,760
what I understand, is right at the edge
of the flood plane for that area there.

1072
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:23,360
So, as far as you know, that was as
to stay out of the flood plane, that was

1073
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,800
as far down as we could get so that we
wouldn't be encumbering the use of the

1074
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:30,720
property if it ever, you know, for
whatever development you would have in

1075
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:32,880
the future for that.
Okay.

1076
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,120
» All righty, any more questions?

1077
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,640
All right, I will accept any motions.

1078
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,040
I need a motion.

1079
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,640
Pick one.

1080
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:20,880
» Can I ask a question?
Why would we make a presentation like

1081
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:25,200
this and the public that's sitting here
be included to see a map of what we're

1082
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:29,080
talking about. I know we're the real is.
real travelers, but I really don't know

1083
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:33,080
what he's talking about with the lines
and all that other stuff. So, this could

1084
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:37,760
be beneficial if you're going to do a
presentation to have somebody present

1085
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:41,960
something that the public that's coming
to these meetings could be fun of it at

1086
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,680
least a little bit.
Just a thought.

1087
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:58,360
» All right, I need a motion.
>> I'd like a motion not to approve these

1088
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,360
taxes.

1089
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:05,120
» Okay, we have a motion [applause] and we
have a second.

1090
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,120
Any further discussion?

1091
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,640
All righty, I'll call for a vote. Mr.
Marshall?

1092
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,440
» No.
>> Mr. Kindred?

1093
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,840
» Which way we voting now to
To not

1094
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,320
» To not approve.
>> Uh

1095
01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:23,320
» Mr. Cox?
>> Uh

1096
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,480
» Mr. Wood?
>> Uh

1097
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:37,760
» I'm going to vote
no.

1098
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,640
So,
you'll have to come up with a better

1099
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:49,920
option.
>> All right, we will if you have any more

1100
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:53,240
feedback for us, please reach out to me
and I will bring that back to

1101
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,280
Appalachian Power. Thank you very much
for your time.

1102
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,280
» Thank you.

1103
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:15,440
» All righty, we will proceed to our
reports. Ms. Carol Craig, Department of

1104
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,440
Social Services.

1105
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:30,160
» Good evening.
Um really don't have any new updates. We

1106
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:33,720
continue to meet all our state and
federal guidelines in both benefits and

1107
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:37,920
services.
Um I would however like to say thank you

1108
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:41,360
to Mr. McGinness for giving us extra
space

1109
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:45,880
and making it possible for us to have a
visitation room.

1110
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:51,640
Um so our families can visit with their
children in a nice room and not be in a

1111
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:56,720
generic conference room.
Um our furniture was delivered today.

1112
01:26:54,280 --> 01:27:01,440
So now we are completely set up and
excited about our visitations. So I do

1113
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:07,040
appreciate um
Mr. McGinness's support and appreciate

1114
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:10,200
the support of this board for all of our
agency and all the families that we

1115
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:14,280
serve.
Thank you.

1116
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,280
» Thanks.

1117
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:20,520
And the administrator's report, Mr.
McGinness.

1118
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,600
» Yes, sir.
We have many improvements still taking

1119
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,120
place in our county. The backup
generator for the old school board

1120
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:29,880
building
uh for the emergency operations is still

1121
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:34,560
in progress. We have the improvements at
DeHart Park still in progress. Our ITM

1122
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,920
facility managers have upgraded the
conference rooms, the board rooms, as

1123
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:41,200
well as a few more security upgrades for
the buildings.

1124
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:45,560
Uh my team has engaged FEMA and has sent
out all notices and conducted all

1125
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:50,360
necessary notices to hold our first
public open house forum for questions

1126
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:54,640
and answer period to help our citizens
navigate this as well as educate them on

1127
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:59,960
the appeals process. So I wanted to
thank Nick and I'm going to give it a

1128
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:03,760
shot, uh D'Aero, D'Aero, who's our
building officer, and Mark Ferner for

1129
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:08,640
spearheading this effort. The next
meeting for our citizens is July 20th.

1130
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:13,520
The first public forum for FEMA is at
the school board building conference

1131
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:18,080
room from 4:00 to 7:00 p.m. And then as
well on July 30th, and that will be at

1132
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:22,800
the same location, but we will do it
from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. So, we will

1133
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:27,120
publish that, sir, and get that Amy can
get that on the website so people can

1134
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:30,320
look at that. The next Patrick County
Citizens Learning Series will be

1135
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:34,920
conducted at the County Administration
Building on Thursday, August 6th at

1136
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:38,240
5:30. This will be an open house type of
event. We will tour the building and

1137
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:41,520
have question and answer period for all
guests.

1138
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:47,120
Dinner and refreshments will be served,
and just so the public here doesn't

1139
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:50,600
lynch me beside the Jeb Stuart statue at
the courthouse, I will pay for that out

1140
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:56,160
of my own pocket. So, do not worry.
County funds will not pay for everybody

1141
01:28:53,640 --> 01:29:00,640
to attend the meeting and have a supper.
Um it's an opportunity to meet our team

1142
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:04,680
and see each individual office
uh in the building. More details to

1143
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:08,880
follow. Um and it's really just a
first-hands operation so our citizens

1144
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,400
can see what we do on a day-to-day
basis.

1145
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,440
Um
we've had a large turnover on our team

1146
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,880
here. We have some people in new
positions, and though it's going to be

1147
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:21,080
difficult to replace the employees that
are retiring with their vast knowledge,

1148
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:26,400
we have a hungry team, and we want to
take charge. As I tell my team uh

1149
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:30,840
monthly, I say to them all the time, and
I've heard my employees say, "Good teams

1150
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:34,480
have rules. Great teams have standards."
And I think our team is setting the

1151
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:38,920
standards. We are winning.
On Saturday, June 27th, I attended an

1152
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:42,640
event open to the public at Dominion
Valley Campground. Free food, great

1153
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:47,040
entertainment, and free food for the
Patrick County citizens. Um I wanted to

1154
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:51,040
thank the Dominion Valley Campground as
well as the Roaring Twins for hosting

1155
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:55,040
this event as well and providing food
and beverage. It was just nice to be

1156
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:59,920
able to sit in the pavilions and enjoy a
cold soda and engage the citizens and

1157
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:03,400
answer questions about Patrick County.
Uh my great economic development

1158
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:07,360
director, James, and I attended a
conference in Stuart, Virginia for

1159
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:10,760
brownfields. We met many people that are
willing to help Patrick County with some

1160
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,920
projects that we are engaged with and we
hope to get started soon.

1161
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:18,240
Though
um I do not like leaving the friendly

1162
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,760
confines of our county, benefit of this
conference should be felt in Patrick

1163
01:30:19,532 --> 01:30:24,680
[clears throat] County hopefully in this
next year.

1164
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:28,320
Um as we wait to hear official word
concerning broadband and the debacle, um

1165
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,640
there's a lot of things that I'm not
privy to say. There's a lot of things I

1166
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:36,160
do not know.
Uh there was a deadline imposed on

1167
01:30:33,480 --> 01:30:40,920
Riverstreet Networks on July 10th. That
deadline has been extended.

1168
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:44,520
Um but I think um
our citizens

1169
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:49,040
and the county as a whole is definitely
definitely postured with the new plans

1170
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:52,240
that I think that DHCD
and West Piedmont have in plan with the

1171
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,480
county.
Um I also attended another school board

1172
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:58,080
meeting
and

1173
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:02,600
we're winning. We're struggling a
little. We're getting beat up.

1174
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:07,160
You know, uh but again, I'm very proud
of our team and um the work that

1175
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:10,240
everybody's doing and so that's all I
have, sir.

1176
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:13,920
» All right. Thank you very much.
And we will go to supervisors' reports,

1177
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:18,520
Mr. Marshall.
>> Yeah, I was contacted by a constituent

1178
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,920
in Vesta. Uh
He doesn't live here, but he has

1179
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:26,120
property.
And um he came down to the property and

1180
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:30,960
and lo and behold, there was a huge
swath of trees and plants that were

1181
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:34,240
sprayed and killed.
And he asked me to look into it, but

1182
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:38,560
that's not what shocked me. What was on
his property was the drive out there.

1183
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:41,600
Uh
you want to talk about damage to your

1184
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:45,400
future?
I mean, it it was pretty horrific

1185
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:49,600
driving out there. It's horrible. And I
think it's uh the these are persistent

1186
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:53,520
herbicides.
And I found out there's there's seven

1187
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,400
different chemicals they're using in
cocktails

1188
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,640
um that they're mixing up and they're
spraying it all over this county.

1189
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:04,960
And uh it it's going to cause permanent
damage. This stuff does not go away.

1190
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:08,680
Um so, I think it's high time perhaps
that the administrator go ahead and

1191
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:12,160
reach out to the state and the local
offices and get

1192
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,760
Yeah. Get somebody
>> provide a lot more information if you

1193
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,760
would like.
>> And um I reached out to them. I reached

1194
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:22,080
out to the state and I've reached out to
local and do you know I haven't gotten

1195
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:25,680
any answer?
And I did it

1196
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:28,040
» a call from president of operations
because I complained about all the

1197
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,120
spraying in my neighborhood.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1198
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,920
» And they said we'd like to hear
everything I can tell them all about

1199
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:36,800
what's going on.
>> Maybe get one mic and

1200
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:40,320
give them all the information on that.
Um something has to be done. I mean this

1201
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:43,320
this can't continue like this. This is
terrible.

1202
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:46,760
Um
And and one of the reasons is our water

1203
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:50,560
resources. This stuff gets into our
water resources, gets into the aquifer

1204
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:55,360
and it's been proven over and over and
over again um

1205
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:58,640
uh that it's a carcinogen among other
issues.

1206
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:02,680
» I I can speak to that. There's a
chemical called Pronol.

1207
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:06,880
P R O N O L.
It was subject to a lawsuit called Troy

1208
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:12,000
Corp versus Brown.
I was given Social Security disability

1209
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:15,040
and VA disability because I'm allergic
to Pronol.

1210
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:20,600
It was sprayed all over the roads of
North Carolina in 1978

1211
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:22,440
by a company called Ward Transformer.
It was the first It was the first

1212
01:33:22,279 --> 01:33:28,080
» [cough]
>> superfund site in the United States.

1213
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:32,200
It is extremely toxic, extremely deadly
and they're giving a lot of people and

1214
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:36,160
going to be even more so disability
because of it.

1215
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:41,600
This chemical causes people's lungs and
when you breathe it, the fumes from it

1216
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:46,800
causes a normal reaction, not for me.
Causes their lungs to fill with fluid.

1217
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:51,080
It causes you to have a swollen heart.
Its primary action is it causes you to

1218
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,920
swell.
>> And that is one of the seven chemicals I

1219
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:59,040
saw on that list.
>> It is highly deadly

1220
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:02,800
and as a matter of fact, the EPA tested
it when they did that case with the

1221
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:06,520
strong mouse. You don't get to read
about it in a label. It's never on a

1222
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:11,560
label
because it was dismissed with prejudice.

1223
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:16,160
But the EPA, when they tested it, said
they could not determine an LD-100 when

1224
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:21,040
injected, ingested, or inhaled. That
means there was no level at the at that

1225
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:26,560
they could physically measure in their
lab that was safe. It killed everything

1226
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:32,520
it touched. Every animal it touched.
It had an LD-100 or LD-50 of 140 parts

1227
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:37,120
per billion when absorbed through your
skin. Unfortunately, this stuff is in

1228
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:42,080
insecticides, herbicides, air
fresheners,

1229
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:46,160
sanitizers, alcohol-based sanitizers,
cleaners. It's everywhere. Just Google

1230
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,680
where it's on a product you use and
you'll see.

1231
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:51,640
» Now, what I'd like to see happen, Mike,
and and Andrew,

1232
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:55,640
um
is that the county be provided with

1233
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:59,720
material data safety sheets on all these
chemicals they're using and a map of

1234
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:03,640
which chemicals they're using and where
in the county. So, these homeowners and

1235
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:06,520
landowners can get some kind of
understanding of what's being sprayed on

1236
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,560
their property.
Um

1237
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:14,520
» Also, last meeting, Mr. Marshall, a
citizen, and and Amy can testify to it,

1238
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:18,160
had brought up the spray
um and I already responded to that

1239
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:22,360
citizen. I have a number where you can
call that phone number and you can get

1240
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:27,840
on the no spray list. It's a guaranteed
so they do not spray your specific

1241
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:30,320
property. Um still doesn't help us
county wide if they're spraying other

1242
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,720
places. It just
>> They're not notifying the public of that

1243
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:37,120
and and it's not widely known. So,
unless we're going to advertise and get

1244
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:39,960
the information out, um I think they
need to come here and speak to the

1245
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,560
public themselves.
They should have a representative. I

1246
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:46,120
mean, this is a major thing they're
doing within our county. The least they

1247
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:49,760
could do is come out and speak to us.
>> In fact, the county should send that a

1248
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:53,600
no spray to the whole county.
Appalachian should be individuals.

1249
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:58,560
Appalachian should just send that out a
no spray. Appalachian that they can't

1250
01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:01,160
spray poison on our properties and
pollute our water.

1251
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:05,120
» be a question for the attorney if we can
demand that or not. I don't know.

1252
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:08,360
» It's within your power, I believe.
>> Okay. If it is, we should do it.

1253
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,800
Absolutely.
>> I mean, just driving down the roads,

1254
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:14,400
lately, everything is brown on both
sides of the road.

1255
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:19,200
I mean, forget about what it's doing to
your property. What it's doing What what

1256
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:23,320
it's doing to our our beautiful county.
>> It looks horrible driving down through

1257
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:27,680
there. Definitely does. Now,
um if people are familiar or not with

1258
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:33,680
FERC, that's the Federal Energy
Regulatory Commission. And right now,

1259
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:38,720
the Pinnacles dam project um is in the
licensing process.

1260
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:42,000
This process takes several years, but it
lasts for 30 to 40 years.

1261
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:47,560
Um
so, I've attended um

1262
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:50,640
two meetings so far. Um
and I'm [clears throat] I'm down to

1263
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:56,600
receive all the information over the
next five to seven years

1264
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:59,200
on on the docket for these for the
licensing.

1265
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,760
Um
This is all federal and those dams are

1266
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:08,120
private property, but it's important to
the county because we are the headwaters

1267
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:12,000
and that's our water resources that
we're talking about. So, we need to keep

1268
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:15,320
an eye on that. If you go on my Facebook
page, I got a lot of pictures up there

1269
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:19,760
and what more information.
That's all I got.

1270
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,760
» All right. Thank you, Mr. Kendrick.

1271
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:26,280
» No, I don't think I had anything. I
think we had one with Piedmont, but it

1272
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:26,280
was executive.

1273
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:31,440
» And Mr. Cox.
>> I um

1274
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:35,600
I attended a couple of the board uh
meetings

1275
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,600
for the uh

1276
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:41,400
Economic Development Committee
and uh

1277
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:49,280
There was quite a bit of information
passed around through that, but

1278
01:37:47,480 --> 01:37:55,640
is underway
that will have a drastic effect on

1279
01:37:52,320 --> 01:38:01,560
improving Patrick County life and
facilities that will be available.

1280
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:07,840
I also attended two
as I mentioned previously two events

1281
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:11,800
associated with Celebration 250.
And one of them is at the Woolwine

1282
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:17,280
Volunteer Fire Department
and was sponsored by the uh

1283
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:24,560
Rotarians up there and they did a
fantastic job of providing entertainment

1284
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:31,320
for families and the kids that came up.
Uh and also came down the next morning

1285
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:34,280
after surviving 102° temperatures on
Saturday

1286
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:39,400
and uh
thank goodness it was a little little

1287
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:44,280
cooler. I think it was only about 98.
But anyway, that those were good events

1288
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:46,400
that I attended and enjoyed.
And uh and uh

1289
01:38:45,853 --> 01:38:51,520
» [clears throat]
>> I think those citizens who were there

1290
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:53,880
enjoyed them as well.
Uh

1291
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:58,920
one comment I'd like to make is in
regard to an incident that Mr. McGinnis

1292
01:38:56,440 --> 01:39:05,080
just referred to.
Uh the spraying by AEP

1293
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:11,520
on uh I believe it was Scenic Drive.
Uh the gentleman that uh got a uh

1294
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:16,400
had a problem down there.
And uh he had sought resolution and

1295
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:20,920
couldn't get the answers.
So, I filed with the

1296
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:28,600
federal
Department of Environmental Quality

1297
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:32,880
a request to review that situation.
And when I filed it, it says, "Well, we

1298
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:36,440
we may not contact you. This goes into
the file."

1299
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:42,080
And I was surprised about 3 weeks later,
I got a contact from DEQ.

1300
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:47,040
And I explained the problem to them, the
gentleman involved, his address,

1301
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:52,880
and they said, "Well, with the
information we're calling him."

1302
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:58,480
And and I believe they did call him.
And as AEP did go back and discuss the

1303
01:39:56,320 --> 01:40:04,960
situation with them.
And I think a resolution was reached.

1304
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:07,880
But there is a number available if
you've got concerns.

1305
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:12,240
Um
if you can't get it through the state or

1306
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:18,000
locally, you can you can file your
inquiry and it can be done online.

1307
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:21,880
And it didn't fall into a dead box. They
did respond to it.

1308
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:26,400
And
they had mentioned uh

1309
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:31,320
that it's not the the
the EQ's policy to require release of

1310
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:35,240
chemical names
or

1311
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:39,400
ingredients in the chemicals.
And uh

1312
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:47,720
so I felt that was a little unusual, but
that's the information I was given.

1313
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:47,720
And it all involved AEP spray.

1314
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:54,520
And that's all I have.
>> All right. Mr. Wood.

1315
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:58,880
» I don't know if I have anything to add
since last time was the

1316
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:03,760
park director meeting. Uh for anybody
wanting to enjoy Christmas in July,

1317
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:07,040
uh they have the Grinch, the animated
version, the one that I watched

1318
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:11,360
countless times around Christmas when
your kid is 18 months old

1319
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:15,000
and needs to be watched multiple times
per day, but we can't ever pick up where

1320
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:19,680
we left off, so I've seen the first 30
minutes of the Grinch

1321
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:24,120
multiple times per day.
But that will be July 25th at the Heart

1322
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:28,160
Park when the sun goes down.
Um the other thing that surprised me is

1323
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:31,520
how many of our youth are involved in
our rec sports.

1324
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:35,320
I wish I had the exact number. I left
that home.

1325
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:39,040
I think it's in excess of 1,200
different

1326
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:42,560
athletes that we have. Now, some of
those kids competed more than one sport,

1327
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:47,080
but uh you know, sports are really
picking up. The soccer program is more

1328
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:50,960
than you can even imagine.
Um I forget how many teams they had. It

1329
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:54,720
was in the dozens of teams.
Uh so, you know, if you get a chance to

1330
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:57,840
go out there and watch those kids play
any of those sports, it's great. Uh

1331
01:41:56,440 --> 01:42:02,720
there's good work going on at all of our
parks around the county.

1332
01:42:00,440 --> 01:42:04,760
As Mr. McGinnis said, the bathroom and
uh

1333
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:11,200
the D-heart that one It should be
24 hours a day, I believe. I'll follow

1334
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:14,320
up with you on that, but it's going to
be open longer hours than the one that's

1335
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,760
over the pool.
Uh so, for the people that are there

1336
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,600
during the little odd hours of the day,
you know, playing with their own time,

1337
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:23,840
not necessarily
uh for different events.

1338
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:27,560
Um I will tell you, I was at a couple of
places one time, um

1339
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:30,560
I think it was 3 months ago, and
a guy, I don't know his name, but he was

1340
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,720
able to tell me where I was. He walked
up,

1341
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:36,360
and he said, "We need a bathroom at
D-heart Park." He said, "My a little guy

1342
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:39,000
had an accident."
Okay.

1343
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:41,240
And uh
I said, "We're actually working on that

1344
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:46,000
right now." I
have no idea who the person was, but I

1345
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:49,200
got a hug from a random 350-lb man
uh that was excited that now there was

1346
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,320
going to be a public restroom in the
area at D-heart Park. You know, we're

1347
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,080
we're trying to make our parks better
for our communities, cuz it also helps

1348
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,440
with tourism.
Uh so, it also, you know, helps our

1349
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:00,240
economy.
That's all I have.

1350
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:04,920
» All righty.
And I don't have anything additional to

1351
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:07,440
add, so we will proceed to close
session.

1352
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:16,560
» Could I uh briefly ask a question? Okay.
>> Mhm.

1353
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:22,200
» I'll direct this to Mr. McGinnis.
Who actually owns the I C D-heart Park

1354
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,200
in Woolwine?

1355
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:27,520
» We do.
>> I I I can get you that answer. I don't

1356
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,640
want to tell you for sure till I check
tomorrow.

1357
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:34,640
» Well, I I think I know the answer, but I
wanted

1358
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:39,560
see if see what response I got. It's
owned by the county.

1359
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:43,120
Is it considered part of the recreation
department that is funded in part by the

1360
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:47,960
county?
>> Mhm. Yes, sir.

1361
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:50,320
» Could you tell me
the

1362
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:58,600
lack of a better term, the percentage of
revenue that's available for the park

1363
01:43:55,960 --> 01:44:05,640
system that gets distributed to I.C.
DeHart Park or their facility?

1364
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:09,680
» All the parks are contributed equally um
unless they have a specific project that

1365
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:15,200
they've come to the board to request,
but those requests go through the

1366
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:19,440
parks and recreation committee.
>> I was looking through the budget and I

1367
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:23,560
saw the parks and recreation budget
items.

1368
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:28,000
The only item I could find that was
pertaining to I.C. DeHart Park was

1369
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:33,600
$1,700
$1,700, I think it was, that was

1370
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:36,680
utilized to make some maintenance
equipment

1371
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:41,000
on the
power supply out there.

1372
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:46,560
And also, the only other activity I
could find related to that park was the

1373
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:50,520
mowing of the grass.
Now,

1374
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:55,280
there's we've got the number one
mountain trail bike mountain trail in

1375
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:59,160
the state and it's been publicized as
that,

1376
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:03,960
but we can't take advantage of it
because of lack of

1377
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:08,400
access to facilities out there.
So, I would ask that perhaps in the

1378
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:12,680
future budgeting
we consider

1379
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:19,200
a better budgeting process that would
benefit the I.C. DeHart Park more or a

1380
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,200
greater extent.

1381
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:25,760
» Well, the park boards need to talk to
the parks and recreation committee and

1382
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:29,640
get their requests put in.
>> I I don't think

1383
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:33,720
» The bathroom at DeHart Park in Stuart
was an 80% grant, 100%

1384
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:38,440
» Correct.
>> So, that was a grant we applied for

1385
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:41,360
and received
But, all of the parks that you're

1386
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:45,280
receiving
capital improvements money

1387
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:52,280
Mount Olympus just got a new whale.
So, every

1388
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:57,080
everyone got some.
We'll look into that for

1389
01:45:53,880 --> 01:46:01,520
» Now, I noticed that I had this that
a lot of volunteers up there are

1390
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:06,720
providing
you know

1391
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:11,280
the primary work around up there.
Perhaps they need to be made aware of

1392
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:14,960
grant opportunities. I don't not sure
that that organization

1393
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:18,000
is totally familiar with it.
>> Yep.

1394
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:22,160
But, it would certainly be be beneficial
they had some guidance in obtaining

1395
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:25,600
grants for that program.
It can be developed to be a real asset

1396
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:28,160
to Patrick County.
I just want

1397
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:31,880
» Well, sir, if you if you gave them my
name, if they're looking for a grant, I

1398
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:36,560
don't think the Board of Supervisors and
this is without asking permission. But,

1399
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:40,440
I think the Board of Supervisors would
agree that our grant writer would write

1400
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:43,600
grants for that entity.
>> Well, we've offered that grant writer's

1401
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,960
services
>> Sir?

1402
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:49,280
» That's why I was glad to see this lady
come on board.

1403
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:51,960
» So, if if if if they wanted to and she
actually lives in Woolwine. So, if they

1404
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:56,080
wanted to meet her, if they wanted to
talk to her, she charges an hourly rate.

1405
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:59,240
Um
and and she'll be able to give us an

1406
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:02,720
estimate before she says, you know,
depending on the size of the grant, the

1407
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:06,320
type of a grant, state, or federal,
state, uh

1408
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:10,840
you know, commercial type grants, or so,
she'll give us a price, but she will and

1409
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:14,400
has actually worked with Luke, the Parks
and Rec director, for other grants for

1410
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:18,680
other parks as well. They've already
started submitting to her.

1411
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:23,200
But, my understanding is and this is 8
months here

1412
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:27,480
like like Mr. Wood said, the the parks
and recs division

1413
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:31,200
oversees the park and rec boards at each
individual park. And last year, if you

1414
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:36,760
go back and I don't believe I was the
county administrator, if I was it was

1415
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:41,400
very early on, there was some large
items that each park and rec

1416
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:46,040
uh committee for their respective parks
had problems with. One was a well, one

1417
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:51,640
was upgrades and things like that. So,
the board of supervisors, before you got

1418
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:56,240
here, sir, um had voted to help each
um individual park with major, like uh

1419
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:59,080
Mr. Woods said, capital improvement
plans.

1420
01:47:57,480 --> 01:48:02,880
So, it's um you know, you're the
supervisors, you

1421
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:05,720
you dictate policy, I execute it. So, if
you tell me to give them money, I give

1422
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:08,960
them money. If you tell me not to give
them money, we don't give them money.

1423
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:12,880
» Well, I'll I'll have to admit that
looking in the budget is not the most

1424
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:17,520
simple thing I've ever done.
>> That's why people like Miss Donna

1425
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:21,360
» to the citizens in Woolwine who are
associated with that park, who contacted

1426
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,720
me and wanted
Those Those were the questions they

1427
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:27,200
wanted
>> There's There's something else we

1428
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:31,040
overlook a lot of times, too.
West Piedmont's got a professional,

1429
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:35,640
full-time grant writer.
And

1430
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:40,400
Doug Curry was on the uh
West Piedmont liaison with him. He

1431
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:44,360
helped him get a grant from down there.
I think it was about $50,000 to replace

1432
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:48,080
the picnic tables and work on the
bathrooms and all that stuff last year

1433
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:53,680
or year before, when A lot of times we
overlook West Piedmont. And we pay their

1434
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:56,160
dues every year, so we need to take
advantage of it.

1435
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:59,200
Now, that
that contract grant writer you're

1436
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:02,320
talking about will be an advantage cuz
she'll be working for Patrick County,

1437
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:06,520
where you got three or four counties
down there that's going to pull to get

1438
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:10,840
the grants, but they did get get DeHart
Park up there. I I think it was $50,000,

1439
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,840
wasn't it?

1440
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:15,920
She didn't hear me, but 50 or 60,000
dollars and they got them new picnic

1441
01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:19,760
tables under the shelter and a lot of
stuff like that. So, we need to keep in

1442
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:22,440
mind that we got that opportunity down
there that don't cost us anything to get

1443
01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:25,520
it.
>> All right.

1444
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:29,440
» All right.
>> And there is a lot of money out there.

1445
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:32,360
You just got to ask for it.
>> I move to support convenient close

1446
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:36,960
meeting pursuant to Virginia Code
Section 2.2-3711A1

1447
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:41,360
to discuss and consider following
personnel matters, planning commissions

1448
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:46,120
with Blue Ridge Economic Development
Authority at large pursuant to 8-31-26

1449
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:49,720
pursuant [clears throat] to Virginia
Code Section 2.2-3711A3

1450
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:56,360
to discuss and consider the following
real estate matters Blue Ridge District

1451
01:49:54,720 --> 01:50:00,200
and consultation with legal counsel
retained by the public body regarding

1452
01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:04,160
specific legal matters requiring the
provision

1453
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:08,960
the provision of legal advice by such
counsel pursuant to Virginia Code

1454
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:08,960
Section 2.2-3711A8

1455
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:14,400
related to proposed contract.
>> All right, we have a motion. Do we have

1456
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,520
a second?
>> Second.

1457
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:20,480
» Have a motion and a second. Any
discussion?

1458
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,600
We will proceed to vote. Mr. Marshall.
>> Aye.

1459
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,800
» Mr. Kendrick.
>> Aye.

1460
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,840
» Mr. Cox.
>> Aye.

1461
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,040
» Mr. Wood.
>> Aye.

1462
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:29,520
» And I vote aye as well. We are now in
closed session.

1463
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:35,080
We're going to take a brief
uh break.

1464
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:37,360
Please return back at 5:08.
>> Thank you.