1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,750 Chase barely walked in. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,040 Um, thank you everybody for coming. It's 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,480 uh Planning Commission Payson City 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,120 March 11th 5 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,960 6:00. We'll go ahead and get started. Um 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,920 believe uh Commissioner Frisby has been 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,160 asked to 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,600 say a prayer. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,190 Thank you. 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Our Father in heaven, we're grateful 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,160 this day. We're grateful for the 12 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,000 opportunity we have to come and meet as 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,240 a Planning Commission to discuss the 14 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,480 needs before our city. We pray that 15 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,520 we may be guided to make those decisions 16 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,720 which will be beneficial to 17 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,960 the current and future residents of the 18 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,520 city and that we are grateful for the 19 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,440 opportunity we have to 20 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,520 live in a country where we have the 21 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,840 opportunity to participate and to 22 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,920 help direct the affairs of 23 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,680 the place in which we live and 24 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,000 we pray that you'll bless our service 25 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,240 men and women that they'll be watched 26 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,720 over and protected in these things we do 27 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,240 in the name of our savior Jesus Christ. 28 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,320 Amen. Amen. 29 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,200 Uh I forgot to mention who's here. 30 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Looks like we have uh Commissioners 31 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,120 Frisby, Adams Becker 32 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,600 Beecher 33 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,519 Hemuli and Getzbor. 34 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:09,390 So 35 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Um everybody have a chance to look at 36 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,800 the agenda from February 11th, so a 37 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,840 month ago? 38 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Any questions, comments, concerns? 39 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,800 I need a motion then to approve that 40 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,080 consent agenda. Make the motion to 41 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,640 approve the 42 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,280 uh minutes from the February 11th 43 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,320 meeting. 44 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:29,520 Second. 45 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,120 I have a motion and a second. All in 46 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,000 favor by yes. Yes. Yes. 47 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,320 Any opposed? Thank you. 48 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,080 Public forum. Well, we don't have any 49 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,720 public unless there's somebody online, 50 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,680 right? 51 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Nobody online? 52 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Okay. 53 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,400 We'll go on to action items. Uh first is 54 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,160 a public hearing. It's going to be a 55 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,520 short public hearing if there's no 56 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,160 public, but whatever. 57 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 It is the Payson City is proposing code 58 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,600 amendments to various sections of title 59 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,040 12 60 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,080 um which is the subdivision regulations 61 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,280 of the city code. Um 62 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,400 it intends to better clarify how 63 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,600 residential density is calculated and 64 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,640 interpretated interpretated throughout 65 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:10,000 the ordinance. 66 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,400 Michael, are you giving us anything on 67 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,280 any of these? 68 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,080 I'm going to give it to you all at once. 69 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,120 >> Okay. That's fine. 70 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,200 So we're talking about code amendments 71 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,200 for that's 51, 52 is code amendments for 72 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,080 uh title 13 zoning and this in intends 73 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,080 to clarify how residential density is 74 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,320 calculated etc. Same thing as as 51 75 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,600 except for in section or in title 13. 76 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Um 77 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,240 we've got uh 78 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,880 let's see, with the sections within the 79 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,720 general plan 80 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,480 um proposing adopting various sections 81 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,960 within the general plan originally 82 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,240 adopted in September of 2020 83 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,240 and the intendents again are trying to 84 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160 clarify residential density. 85 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Uh general plan amendment um sections of 86 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,960 the Spring Creek area specific plan 87 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,880 which is an extension of the 2020 88 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,520 general plan 89 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 and again we're trying to clarify um how 90 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,800 residential density is interpreted 91 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,720 within plan documents. 92 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,440 And the last one with 55 which is the 93 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,440 South Meadows specific area plan 94 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,160 again the same uh conditions to the 95 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,640 general or extension of the general plan 96 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,280 and clarify how residential density will 97 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 be interpreted within plan documents. 98 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,760 We'll have to handle each one of these 99 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,200 separately, but Michael will give us a uh 100 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,920 a sum a summation of what we're to 101 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:47,750 looking at here. 102 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 So Commissioner Beecher uh summarized it 103 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,640 pretty well. I can skip this first 104 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,310 slide. Um 105 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,440 and then each of these other slides are 106 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,840 really just going to be 107 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,720 um 108 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,160 the specifics for each of those 109 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,360 uh codes or plans. Mhm. Um but it's 110 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,440 intended to be up on the screen for the 111 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,760 public to see what we're talking about 112 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,360 and then I'm just going to break away 113 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,160 from what's here and show you the actual 114 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,440 documents that were in your packets. 115 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Okay. 116 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,160 >> makes sense. So there's not a 117 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,520 significant presentation so much as 118 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,120 we'll just look at what's actually in 119 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,480 your your 120 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,360 uh packets. Yeah, and see if we don't 121 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,880 have the public here, they can look at 122 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,920 it later online if they need to, so. 123 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,160 Correct. 124 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Um so as was stated, these five 125 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,680 documents, the general plan, the South 126 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Meadows area specific plan the Spring 127 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Creek area specific plan, title 12 and 128 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,160 title 13 of the city's code would all be 129 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,600 affected with some clarification for 130 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,390 density. 131 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,760 And I knew I was going to get them out 132 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,440 of order, but that's fine. Um so first 133 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,240 one, the general plan, the basis of 134 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,840 what's what's being addressed is on 135 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:12,200 pages 60 through 62 in the plan and this 136 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,080 is some 137 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,680 uh language amendments to 138 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,560 change where it states about units to 139 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,640 the acre and instead puts in language 140 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,840 that talks about what would be the most 141 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,520 appropriate zones for the area based off 142 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,880 of the original density 143 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,840 anticipated and calculated in the 144 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,480 original general plan. 145 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,310 Um 146 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,320 same with South Meadows. South Meadows 147 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,000 is a plan that's um well, at least 148 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,680 almost four and a half years older than 149 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,320 the general plan, so it was done a 150 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,840 little bit differently. Um the South 151 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,160 Meadows is the one that probably has the 152 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,960 most of the 153 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,600 uh staff recommended changes because of 154 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,320 this nature. Uh there was a lot of 155 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,120 referencing to units to the acre, the um 156 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,120 land use map in there had a map that was 157 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,600 identifying areas with different colors 158 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,000 with units to the acre and this was 159 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,960 often times uh 160 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,720 point of 161 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,480 deliberation between staff and 162 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,840 applicants and developers and um and we 163 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:28,320 just want to have it fully clear what 164 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,030 the intent is. 165 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,160 Um 166 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,560 the Spring Creek plan is quite new. It 167 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,120 was adopted in 2023 of December and so 168 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,920 this one has very few changes, but it 169 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,000 does still have some language that 170 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 we felt as if could have a little bit 171 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,320 further clarification. 172 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,920 Um and then the last two are the 173 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,880 subdivision code and the 174 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,480 uh zoning code. So these are the 175 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,880 sections specifically that are addressed 176 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,320 in the subdivision code 177 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,920 12 12 40, 12 12 60, and 12 12 80 and 178 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,320 those are the things they talk about 179 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,400 base density, total project density and 180 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,840 the relationship of the PRD to this 181 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,920 title and other development ordinances 182 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,560 of Payson. 183 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:25,510 And then the last one 184 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,920 is the 185 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,430 um 186 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,080 the uh zoning ordinance itself. This one 187 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,440 has a few more sections in it. Um 188 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,080 as you may be aware, we are currently in 189 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,360 a revision for our 190 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,080 entire zoning code that also incorporate 191 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,600 the subdivision ordinance but we felt as 192 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,400 if 193 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,920 it's timely to bring this to you now 194 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,320 because we often get 195 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,360 concerns and comments and questions 196 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,760 about 197 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,080 what can I do here and how much units to 198 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 the acre and and whatever. I So we 199 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,640 wanted to clarify these things and these 200 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,080 specifically um 201 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,840 clarify the definition of zone or of 202 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,120 density and how density 203 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,520 is used throughout those other sections. 204 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,920 So we used our um 205 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,120 attorney consultant that's been doing 206 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,040 our general plan or zoning update for us 207 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,120 to help us with this 208 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,960 and this is the proposed language that 209 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,400 she gave. And then and the basis of that 210 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,360 is she gave gives us um 211 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,919 a new definition for density and then 212 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,080 gets rid of the two definitions that we 213 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,120 have called gross density and net 214 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,840 density. And then therefore anytime it's 215 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,280 referencing one of those two, she's just 216 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,560 replaced it with this new 217 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:51,800 uh term for density and that way we're 218 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,920 not 219 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,040 arguing what is gross, what is net when 220 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,400 is one applied, when is the other. It's 221 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,360 just density is what we're using. 222 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Um so with that being said, um 223 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,440 I'm happy to go through with the uh 224 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,080 Planning Commission the various sections 225 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,440 that they were in your packets um but I guess I'd be open to how you how you 226 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,400 want to proceed. I I'm assuming most of 227 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,560 you have looked at the packets and have 228 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:20,600 seen the information in there. Um 229 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,720 how would you like to proceed? Would you 230 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 like to open a hearing and and discuss 231 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,440 these items after that and then 232 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,600 uh maybe do some more in-depth review if 233 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,840 you have questions or comments. 234 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,880 How would you like to go? Let's go ahead 235 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,160 and open the hearing. 236 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Um so we can 237 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:43,040 get that on the books and then we can 238 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:48,520 talk about everything. So I need a motion to open the hearing. 239 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,200 to discuss 240 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,680 the 241 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:52,840 five 242 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 um items that are being discussed in in 243 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,360 at a public hearing that have been 244 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,080 presented by Michael Bryan. 245 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,960 >> you need to do each one separately. So, 246 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,520 the first one on the agenda is the 247 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,800 subdivision uh regulation that we're 248 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,560 >> Oh, okay. So, we would discuss each 249 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:07,280 section. Yes. So, I'll make a motion to 250 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:07,640 open the public 251 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,240 >> have a public hearing for each one. So, 252 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,920 open a public hearing. So, I'm going to 253 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,320 make a motion to open a public hearing 254 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,710 for 5.1. 255 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,440 Correct. Okay. Do I have a second? 256 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 by Commissioner Adams. 257 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Uh all in favor with yes. Yes. 258 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,480 >> Yes. 259 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Any opposed? 260 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,640 Okay. 261 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,680 Any discussion on this one? 262 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:33,720 Well, this would be the time for the 263 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,200 public to 264 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,280 >> public comment. 265 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,680 And we don't have anybody. 266 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:40,760 Unless staff wants to comment as the 267 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,470 public. 268 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,200 One of you actually lives in the city, 269 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,240 so 270 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,760 Two of them. Oh. 271 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,680 Does Anders live in the city now? Yeah. 272 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,630 Nice. 273 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,320 They're both excited to be developers, 274 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,270 too, so. 275 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Good. 276 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,640 No comments. We'll go ahead and 277 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,720 entertain a motion to close. 278 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Make a motion to close the public 279 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,280 hearing for 5.1. 280 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,750 Need a second. 281 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,560 By Commissioner uh 282 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:16,880 Gettaboard. 283 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Um all in favor with yes. 284 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,640 >> Yes. Any opposed? 285 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Okay. 286 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,320 Let's go ahead and keep open each one of 287 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,360 the public hearings, and then we'll 288 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,839 discuss all of it together, okay? 289 00:11:30,839 --> 00:11:32,839 Make a motion to open the public hearing 290 00:11:32,839 --> 00:11:35,560 for 5.2. 291 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,080 Have a motion. Do I have a second? 292 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,800 I have a motion and a second. Um 293 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,200 any all in favor? 294 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Yes. 295 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Any opposed? 296 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,240 Okay. 297 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,680 We'll uh 298 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,760 entertain any 299 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 comments from the public. 300 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Seeing none, I need a motion to close. 301 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Make a motion to close the public 302 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,320 hearing on 5.2. 303 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,080 I need a second. 304 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,080 All in favor with yes. 305 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Yes. 306 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,280 Any opposed? 307 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Okay. Let's go to 5.3. Just one comment. 308 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,880 When you when you speak, please make 309 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,560 sure you turn on your microphone, 310 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:19,560 especially for the recording. So, thank 311 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:21,520 you. Make a motion to open the public 312 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,920 hearing for 5.3. 313 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Have a motion. Do I have a second? 314 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,600 I have a motion and a second. All in 315 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,200 favor with yes. 316 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Any opposed? 317 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,200 Okay. 318 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Seeing no comments, I need a motion to 319 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,960 close public hearing. Make a motion to 320 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,920 close the public hearing on 5.3. 321 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,400 I do I need a second? 322 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,760 All in favor by yes. Yes. Yes. Any 323 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,040 opposed? 324 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,200 Thank you. I need a motion on 5.4. 325 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,350 I'm tired. Someone else. 326 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,560 I'll make a motion to open the public 327 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,680 hearing for 5.4. 328 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:10,920 I'll second that. I have a motion and a 329 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,520 second. All in favor with yes. Yes. Any 330 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,640 opposed? 331 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Seeing no comments, I need a motion to 332 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,600 close public hearing. 333 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,600 I'll make a motion to close 334 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,560 section 5.4. 335 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:27,560 I have a motion to close. 336 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:31,000 Um do I have a second? 337 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,600 All in favor by yes. 338 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:41,670 Any opposed? It's like an auction. 339 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,520 And one last public hearing. A public 340 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:49,120 hearing for 5.5, section 5 or line 5.5. 341 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,760 Make a motion to open public hearing for 342 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,520 item 5.5. 343 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,880 I have a motion. Do I have a second? 344 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,560 >> I'll second that. 345 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:58,000 A motion and a second. Um all in favor 346 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,200 with yes. 347 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,190 Any opposed? 348 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Seeing no comment, I need a motion to 349 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,560 close. 350 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,360 Make a motion to close. 351 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,560 Commissioner Adams, motion to to close 352 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,079 public hearing. Do I have a second? I'll 353 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:15,280 second. 354 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,440 I have a second. All in favor by yes. 355 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Any opposed? 356 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,720 Okay. Now we can discuss each one of 357 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,680 these and 358 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,069 any comments that anybody has. 359 00:14:29,079 --> 00:14:30,800 So, just in Michael's presentation, he 360 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,360 said that the staff's recommendation is 361 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,640 not to put units in acres, but just to 362 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:43,400 um mention or suggest what is the zone that makes the most 363 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,800 sense. 364 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,040 Correct. And the only places where we're 365 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,680 still keeping the density in there is in 366 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,680 multi-family because you can't do 367 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,400 uh 368 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,079 for one, we have one multi-family zone 369 00:14:57,079 --> 00:14:58,959 that's that splits into three different 370 00:14:58,959 --> 00:15:01,200 densities, and for two, 371 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,480 there there aren't lots when it comes to 372 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,480 multi-family. It's units, so. Thanks for 373 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,640 that clarification. 374 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Any other comments? Commissioner 375 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Frisbee, did you have something? 376 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,760 >> definitely like the new definition 377 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,520 better than what we previously had, cuz 378 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,000 it's always been the huge debate over, 379 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,760 okay, they come in wanting base density, 380 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,240 and we're like, yeah, well, base density 381 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,959 is just gross acreage versus net. I did 382 00:15:21,959 --> 00:15:22,959 have one question. I think it's in the 383 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:25,000 Spring Creek plan, we talk about mixed 384 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,760 density residential. 385 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Do we have I tried to find something. Do 386 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,360 we have anything that 387 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,680 clarifies what we mean by mixed density 388 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,079 residential? 389 00:15:35,079 --> 00:15:35,680 So, in the plan 390 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,120 >> Mixed use residential? 391 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 >> It calls mixed density residential in 392 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Spring Creek, and the only thing I find 393 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,880 is a small definition at the end that 394 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,520 just says, but it doesn't say what size 395 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,760 lots that would be. I I don't know if 396 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,560 I'm just missing something, but 397 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,560 we've called it out as 398 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,680 a zone, but yet I see no guidance on 399 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040 what that zone actually entails, 400 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,280 which I think has a lot of potential. 401 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,920 I've actually had the thought that 402 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,320 we always get stuck in R19, R110, 403 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,320 whatever, but having a mixed density 404 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,200 residential where you could have lots 405 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,360 from 7,000 square foot to 12,000 square 406 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,800 foot would be awesome. 407 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,000 And I think that's maybe what was 408 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,440 intended there, but I don't see any 409 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,600 guidance on what that actually entails 410 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,640 for that area that's zoned 411 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,560 or planned for. 412 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,480 I think there's two 413 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,040 uh avenues of thought for that. Number 414 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,680 one, 415 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,480 um 416 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,959 this never happens, but um 417 00:16:31,959 --> 00:16:37,120 you can have, say, the R175 zoning and 418 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,280 put 10,000 square foot lots in there. 419 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,839 And so, you're going to have a mix of 420 00:16:40,839 --> 00:16:43,040 various lot sizes. 421 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Um obviously, development is based off 422 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,320 of how many 423 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,000 lots I can get, and so that doesn't 424 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,200 happen too much. Uh we do have an 425 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,880 example of something like this coming to 426 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,160 us, but it's coming to us through a 427 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,839 uh development agreement where they 428 00:16:58,839 --> 00:17:01,400 they're wanting the R19 zone, for 429 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,720 example, and but they also want to have 430 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,920 a few lots smaller than that. 431 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Um but the other option is through like 432 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,839 uh planned residential developments, you 433 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,480 can have various um 434 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,280 mixture of uh lot sizes and densities. 435 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Um our multi-family housing zone also 436 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,400 allows for you to have single-family 437 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,679 homes, townhomes, condominiums, 438 00:17:24,679 --> 00:17:27,320 apartments. All of those are allowed in 439 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,400 that zone. Now, again, we almost never 440 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,840 see that because it's it's intended to 441 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,720 get the maximum amount. Um but if you 442 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,600 feel like there's some recommendation 443 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,160 for additional clarification in here, 444 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,040 um and you feel as if it's crucial to to 445 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,360 these requested amendments, then we 446 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,200 could forward that on with your 447 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,679 recommendation to city council. 448 00:17:52,679 --> 00:17:54,880 Otherwise, I would say 449 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,040 um that it might be useful to 450 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,080 uh 451 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,280 table that recommendation for a future 452 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,400 amendment. So, it just depends on on how 453 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,360 critical you feel that is. 454 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,880 I don't know if it's critical for that 455 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,440 this amendment or anything, but it is 456 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,679 something I think would be interesting 457 00:18:08,679 --> 00:18:09,960 to explore that if we said, well, 458 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,200 percentage wise, well, we want cuz like 459 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,120 you said, if we if we zone it R175, the 460 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:15,560 developer says, well, 461 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,400 I don't want anything bigger than a 462 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,200 7,500 square foot lot, but if we had 463 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,240 some sort of mixed use that says, well, 464 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,760 you have to have 50% of your lots have 465 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,560 to be over 10,000, and then you can have 466 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,920 30% of your lots be 5,000, and then 20% 467 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,880 I mean, I don't know if there could be 468 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,320 some I don't know if that's worked in 469 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,159 other communities, but I see it as 470 00:18:31,159 --> 00:18:32,960 creating 471 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,880 a neighborhood that could have a lot of 472 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,000 character and stuff versus just, hey, we 473 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,480 are just trying to make 474 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,000 we we we're going to have 7,600 to 8,000 475 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,320 square foot lots. We're going to just 476 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,640 build that range for the whole 477 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,640 neighborhood versus if we could kind of 478 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,720 mix it up with some sort of a mixed density I don't think for 479 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,200 approving this that that makes sense, 480 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,480 but just maybe something to explore. 481 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 That is something we are exploring with 482 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,600 this code update for the ordinance 483 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,880 update. Um and we've gone on a few field 484 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,240 trips in other communities and seen 485 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,880 various developments and what they've 486 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,040 done. 487 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,200 I think we want to tie that to density 488 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,480 bonus type of stuff. So, you get 489 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,840 additional density if and flexibility in 490 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,560 your lot sizes if you give us some added 491 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 design, or maybe you have 492 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,800 um some additional amenities or things 493 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,520 like that. So, we we really want to try 494 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,360 to have something that works with 495 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:30,880 density bonus so that 496 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,240 we get a better product. And and that 497 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,200 could definitely be part of it is the 498 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,560 mixture of uh lot sizes. 499 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,360 So, on the on the mixed use residential 500 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,679 density you're talking about, 501 00:19:44,679 --> 00:19:46,080 did you see the section where it talks 502 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,679 about that it's eight units per acre? 503 00:19:48,679 --> 00:19:51,200 Right. So, that's the max, which my 504 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,080 assumption should be the developer's 505 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,320 going to come in and say I want eight 506 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,400 units per acre instead of hey I want a 507 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,920 mix of 10,000 and and if we do eight 508 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,720 units 509 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,160 talking about is is getting a diverse 510 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Right. So it's not just portfolio versus 511 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,640 just the maximum lots I can cram on 512 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,240 here. It could be like hey we have to 513 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,040 have some 10,000. So we're only getting 514 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,240 four units per acre in some of these 515 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,720 lots. And then we might have a a 5,000. 516 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,920 And I think that's something that we 517 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,680 don't have as the city other than 518 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,760 We really don't have 519 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,480 >> have a small lot size that I think we 520 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,200 need to consider. 521 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,560 We've talked about that before. That and 522 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,000 we might need to have that. Correct. You 523 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,200 know, and and as right now we don't have 524 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,840 that but that could be a place you could 525 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,040 start integrating a smaller lot 526 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,000 but not making the entire zone a bunch 527 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,480 of small lots. You don't have 20 acres 528 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,280 that become 5,000 square foot lots. You 529 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,480 have 20 acres that's 20% of it is 5,000 530 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840 square foot lots kind of mixed in with 531 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,640 other development. 532 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,320 >> Uh for instance of that and it's kind of 533 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,800 goes back to what I just mentioned 534 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,240 before but for example the city 535 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800 struggles to 536 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,760 obtain public open space 537 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,440 with development dedications. 538 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,040 But if it was valuable to the developer 539 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,840 say for example they could put 540 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,800 X additional lots on the property that 541 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,960 were 5,000 square foot lots whereas the 542 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,200 zoning maybe only allows 7,500 543 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,760 then they're they're gaining the 544 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,560 additional units and and they may not be 545 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,600 losing much if anything with that extra 546 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,560 gain of units that 547 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,360 um 548 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,280 we could get some of that park space and 549 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,520 then that lost yard space is not a total 550 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,720 loss to the residents because they have 551 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,400 that park space and public open space 552 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,720 available. Right. 553 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,800 So. Well, and you mentioned a PRD which 554 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480 I spent several years but we actually 555 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,800 saw a pretty rash run on PRDs for a 556 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,000 while. I think we had down by Barnett we 557 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,080 had a whole bunch of bringing in 558 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,760 PRDs and I think those have a place but 559 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,320 if we had I think maybe a little more 560 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,760 guidance on what the mixed use was for 561 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,800 the developer instead of them having to 562 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,840 come up with an entire plan for an area 563 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,040 and we just said well we have this mixed 564 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,200 use one that you could use that is 565 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,400 this type of a development that maybe 566 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,240 would put less 567 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,720 burden on them to be able to say oh we 568 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,160 have a product here that works for that 569 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160 instead of us having to come up with an 570 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480 entire plan and the whole thing. And and 571 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,080 maybe part of that is well you can use 572 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,920 this mixed use if you provide X amount 573 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,640 of open space or amenities or things 574 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,960 like that and 575 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,040 then we would allow it to be 576 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,360 >> I I think that could be a very realistic 577 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,640 way to incorporate some of this language 578 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,400 from these plans. Obviously the plans 579 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,679 are not ordinances or code but they're 580 00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:23,560 guiding documents and I think that could 581 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,520 be a a useful way to do that and then 582 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,400 coming up with the tools that would do 583 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,560 that with our code is something that's 584 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,080 very valid that we can consider as we 585 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,160 are doing this code update. 586 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,240 Thank you. 587 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Any other comments? 588 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,640 I got a comment on the on the R175. 589 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,360 Now it talks of 7,500 square foot lots. 590 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,440 I mean I I see where we can 591 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,040 put duplexes and stuff like that and 592 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,880 then trim them in half like I guess 593 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,440 that's how you consider it. 594 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Now something like that but where you 595 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,480 talk about putting townhouses and 596 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280 apartments in and that that's 597 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,679 to me that's putting more high density 598 00:23:02,679 --> 00:23:04,040 and that ain't to me to me that they 599 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,240 need to 600 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840 you know, follow like a zoning so where 601 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,679 you're trying to put more 602 00:23:10,679 --> 00:23:13,240 Let let me be clear. So 603 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,679 the RMF zone which is our multi-family 604 00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:18,760 zone it allows for all that variety. So 605 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,640 it'll allow for condos, it'll allow for 606 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,200 apartments, it'll allow for townhomes, 607 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,480 it'll allow for single family homes. The 608 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,280 R175 is our smallest zone right now for 609 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,120 just single family homes. 610 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,679 Read it somewhere you couldn't talk 611 00:23:32,679 --> 00:23:34,280 about you could put 612 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720 multiple of five or single family but 613 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,280 you Put turn your mic on please 614 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,400 Commissioner. Turn your mic on. I turned 615 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,880 it back. Where you put your you could 616 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,920 put the duplex and the four 617 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,480 plex on that R175. There there would be 618 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,320 no way you could get a fourplex. 619 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,280 >> Okay, that's where I was I just wait 620 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,840 where I read it. I just I just want to 621 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,320 clarify what I'm 622 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,040 You could do a duplex but that's an 623 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840 added layer uh it's called an overlay 624 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,960 zone that we have for it's called the 625 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,280 RMF overlay and that would allow for 626 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,400 potentially doing uh duplex or twin 627 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,640 homes. So but it's an added layer of 628 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,960 legislative uh review and it comes to 629 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,120 this this body for recommendation to 630 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:14,360 Okay, so so basically an R175 is just a 631 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,520 single 632 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,600 It's single family. Unless they get a 633 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,520 unless they get an overlay That's what I 634 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,720 was getting at. kind of stuff. That's 635 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,480 what I want to clarify. That's I wasn't 636 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,470 sure about that. Yep. Yeah, thank you. 637 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Any other comments or questions? 638 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Commissioner Geta bore, do you have 639 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,120 anything? 640 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:33,310 Commissioner Becker? 641 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,920 Okay. 642 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,960 All right. No more discussion then we 643 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,230 need to vote five times. So 644 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,390 I need motions on each one of these. 645 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,800 I would move that we recommend to city 646 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,640 council that we approve the code 647 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760 amendments to title 12 subdivision 648 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,880 regulations Payson City Code as proposed 649 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,520 by staff. 650 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,840 I have a motion do I have a second? 651 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,200 >> I'll second that. 652 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,240 I have a motion and a second. Um all in 653 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,040 um 654 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080 All in favor. All in favor? 655 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,080 Yes. By yes. Yes. 656 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,920 Any opposed? 657 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,600 Okay. 658 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,400 5.2 I need a motion. 659 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,920 >> I'll make a motion to send a favorable 660 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,480 recommendation 661 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,560 on title 13 zoning of the Payson City 662 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Code 663 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,679 to the city council. 664 00:25:22,679 --> 00:25:23,679 Okay, I have a motion do I have a 665 00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:25,840 second? 666 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,360 I have a motion and a second. All in 667 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,800 favor by yes. Yes. Yes. 668 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Any opposed? 669 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Okay. 670 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120 I need a motion on 671 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:36,720 uh 672 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,960 the general plan. 673 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,350 5.3. 674 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,120 I make a motion that we approve 5.3 on 675 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,560 the general plan as the city has put 676 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,040 out. 677 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Where is 678 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920 Okay. I'll second that. We have a motion 679 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,440 and a second. 680 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,400 >> Question. 681 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Uh that would be a motion for recommend 682 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,640 to approval. 683 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,600 >> Favorable recommendation. 684 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,320 You agree with that? Modification motion 685 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040 okay. You agree with that second? I do. 686 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Okay. 687 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,360 All in favor by yes. Yes. Any opposed? 688 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,360 Okay. 689 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:17,679 And I need a motion for 5.4. This is the 690 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:20,120 Spring Creek specific area. I make a 691 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,040 motion to send the Spring Creek area 692 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720 specific plan on 5.4 with a favorable 693 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,120 recommendation 694 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,800 to the city council. 695 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,880 I have a motion do I have a second? 696 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,440 I have a motion and a second. All in 697 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,160 favor by yes. Yes. Yes. Any opposed? 698 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,120 Okay. 699 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,840 And on 5.5 this is South Meadow specific 700 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,270 plan. 701 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,840 I make a motion to make a positive 702 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,640 recommendation on South Meadow's area 703 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,040 specific plan 704 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,880 specified in 5.5 to the city council. 705 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,840 I have a motion do I have a second? 706 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,520 I have a motion and a second. All in 707 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,640 favor by yes. Yes. Any opposed? 708 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,880 Thank you. 709 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,120 We made it through the action items. 710 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,160 We're to commission reports, staff 711 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,160 reports and training. 712 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,560 Any training first? 713 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,280 No training? 714 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Okay, then you need to go to a 715 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:22,830 microphone. Miss Jill. 716 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,880 I just wanted to remind everybody that 717 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,679 tonight is our open house Oh, that's 718 00:27:26,679 --> 00:27:27,200 right. 719 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,160 >> Parkway construction. So if anybody's 720 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,880 interested in that 721 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,840 open house style until 7:30 tonight. Has 722 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,160 it started already? It started at 5:30. 723 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,120 Good. So if you want to swing in there 724 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,000 on your way home, feel free to do that. 725 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,679 If you're unable to and you want to go 726 00:27:42,679 --> 00:27:43,679 home and spend time with your family, I 727 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:44,960 understand that as well. We can give you 728 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,800 an update later. Where was that again? 729 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,760 Sorry. Park View Elementary. 730 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,070 >> I should know that but Yeah. 731 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,040 Okay. Uh one matter of business Marty 732 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560 wanted me to bring up was I think two of 733 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,000 your two of you have your positions um 734 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,360 ending as of April. And is it 735 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:13,000 uh Kirk and No. Oh, Ryan and Perry. Uh 736 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,880 so if you're interested in um serving 737 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,880 again then please make sure you reapply 738 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,960 by is it the 15th? 739 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,280 16th of this month, right? So it's less 740 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,760 than a week away. Yeah. 741 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,600 So 742 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,280 that's all I had. Anyone else have 743 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,790 anything? 744 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Okay. 745 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Thank you. Okay. Commissioners anything? 746 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Commissioner Becker? 747 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,919 Commissioner Geta bore? 748 00:28:38,919 --> 00:28:41,400 Commissioner Hemuli? No. No. 749 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,080 Commissioner Adams? 750 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,840 Commissioner Frisby? 751 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,840 Um I'll just say that I appreciate 752 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,800 serving with each one of you and thank 753 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120 you for being here. And if you do too 754 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,520 you too decide to re-up we'd love to 755 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000 have you. So 756 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,400 appreciate that. So 757 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,870 um we won't force you though if 758 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,480 But if you want to if you want to be 759 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,919 back with us again we'd love to have 760 00:29:06,919 --> 00:29:08,880 that. And I just want to comment that 761 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,760 the that the cameras are way out of 762 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,080 focus or my I need new glasses one of 763 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,510 the other. So 764 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080 We just saw a little fuzzy. 765 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,159 Okay. 766 00:29:21,159 --> 00:29:24,310 Um 767 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,159 Guess what? We're to item seven. 768 00:29:27,159 --> 00:29:28,919 And that is 769 00:29:28,919 --> 00:29:31,080 I need a motion to adjourn. I make a 770 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,960 motion to adjourn. 771 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,070 I have a motion do I have a second? 772 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,400 I second it. 773 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,280 Thank you. All in favor by yes. Yes. 774 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,640 And thank you for coming even though we 775 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640 did a lot of 776 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,550 repetition. Thank you for coming. 777 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,760 I have like many items in that much 778 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,990 time. Yes. 779 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680 They have more time