1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 6:00. Uh this is the B city council 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,319 meeting. Uh we'll uh open this meeting. 3 00:00:06,319 --> 00:00:09,280 Uh Council Roelly will open it with 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,110 prayer for us. 5 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:15,920 Our dear kind loving father in heaven. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,080 Father, as we pause in prayer at the 7 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:20,240 start of this city meeting, we are so 8 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:21,760 grateful for this beautiful area in 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,160 which we live. We are thankful for the 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,240 precipitation thou has blessed us with 11 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:28,800 in the last few weeks, and we humbly ask 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,279 for more. Father, we're grateful to live 13 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:33,360 in this great nation. We're thankful for 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,800 religious freedoms and personal 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 freedoms. That's why we're gathered here 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,559 tonight. We pray that we may make wise 17 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:41,040 decisions concerning the future of PAC. 18 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,200 We pray for this city and all of its 19 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,360 residents that we may have prosperity 20 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,079 and safety and a good plan moving 21 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:50,320 forward. Father, we pray thy spirit be 22 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,239 with us. Do so in the sacred name of 23 00:00:52,239 --> 00:00:54,079 Jesus Christ. Amen. 24 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:57,600 >> Amen. Thank you, Ryan. Uh we'll have uh 25 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Rick Johnson if he would approach the 26 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:14,630 pulpit and lead us in the pledge. 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,600 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,560 United States of America and to the 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,000 republic for which it stands. One nation 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,439 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 31 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:29,360 justice for all. 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,000 >> Thank you, Rick. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,840 >> Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to excuse 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,799 Council Hulet, Brian Huelet. He's uh 35 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:38,880 gone to a conference, Main Street, 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,720 National Main Street Conference, 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,479 >> Mayor, I'm online. 38 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:45,360 >> Oh. Oh, good. Thank you. Didn't know you 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,759 were going to do that. Great. Wonderful. 40 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:50,799 I'm not sure about Bob Provoscard, but 41 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:54,240 I'm sure he'll join us momentarily. 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,439 Okay, moving on to uh the consent 43 00:01:57,439 --> 00:01:59,200 agenda. 44 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Uh 45 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,920 C. Uh number one, approval of the April 46 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,360 1st, 2026 count city council meeting 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,840 minutes. Number two, confirmation of the 48 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,400 monthly financial information. 49 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,319 Number three, annual fraud risk 50 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:17,440 assessment. Number four, resolution city 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,000 of fund carnival carnival incorporated 52 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,120 agreement. Uh res number five resolution 53 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,959 arrowhead ranch adidum to master 54 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:29,360 development agreement. 55 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Uh it's number six resolution approving 56 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,360 the municipal law enforcement services 57 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,000 agreement with Mountain View Hospital. 58 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,160 And number seven, uh, resolution 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,319 identification of PAC city fire and 60 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:43,040 rescue as the city's EMS service 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,040 provider and relicensure of ambulance 62 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,840 licenses. Council, unless there's any 63 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,879 discussion uh on these items, I'm ready 64 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:54,160 for a motion. 65 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,239 >> Mayor, I have one question. 66 00:02:56,239 --> 00:02:57,599 >> Okay. 67 00:02:57,599 --> 00:02:59,599 >> Um, just on the Carnival, do we always 68 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:01,760 do a five-year contract with them? And 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,120 is there any way an out if we decide to 70 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,280 change that in the five years? 71 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,920 >> We have done a fiveyear 72 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:13,200 far as I can remember. We could make it 73 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,120 a less term. 74 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,800 >> I don't know that there's any I don't 75 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,319 know there's been any problems with 76 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:20,879 them. I've been very satisfied all my 77 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:23,120 career here that uh that we've 78 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,000 interacted with them. 79 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,080 >> Oh yeah. My whole life it's been that. 80 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,920 And every time I go there I have a I 81 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:30,640 have a city of fun. 82 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:32,319 >> Yeah. I was just curious about the term 83 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:34,480 and if there's if something happens we 84 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 decide to you know if we want it out is 85 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,680 there is there an out clause in it? 86 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,680 >> Yes, there is a termination clause. 87 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,599 >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. 88 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:45,440 >> Good. Thank you, Brian. 89 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,840 >> Um I I had two questions. The one was 90 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 kind of about the city of fund. I read 91 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,159 through the agreement and I was just 92 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,319 curious 93 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:58,560 have they have in that discussion like I 94 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,200 know it's their choice but I think the 95 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,959 number one thing I hear from residents 96 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:05,040 every year is that the ticket prices are 97 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 just getting outrageously unaffordable 98 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,200 and so I just didn't know if like that's 99 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,680 the only place that we look at and then 100 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,280 making sure that they do abide by their 101 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:18,560 agreement because I feel like there are 102 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,799 a few things in it that you see them 103 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:26,560 doing that like smoking in non areas or 104 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 you know different things like that. So 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,639 >> and that's something that police chief 106 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:32,639 could address for us is as it becomes 107 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:33,520 necessary. Right. 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,280 >> I was just I think the ticket prices I 109 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,040 just hear all the time that it's just 110 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,360 unaffordable for families these days and 111 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,120 so that's just a concern. But then my 112 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,280 other question on the Arrowhead Ranch 113 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:48,720 addendum the 2.26 26 acres. I read the 114 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,680 previous one. Is it just open land and 115 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,590 trails? 116 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,639 Bowl of questions. 117 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,120 >> It is open land and we're part of that 118 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,759 agreement is we're paying the portion to 119 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:04,240 landscape of trees 120 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 uh picnic table. We didn't want to do a 121 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,199 lot of landscaping because our hope is 122 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:10,800 that as the other properties around it 123 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,479 develop that we will add that make it a 124 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:13,199 bigger park. 125 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:14,080 >> Okay. That was 126 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,919 >> but that was this portion. We we asked 127 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:18,080 them to put it down toward the 128 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,240 >> and a pavilion I think I read. Maybe 129 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,919 something like that. 130 00:05:21,919 --> 00:05:23,840 >> Yeah. Okay. We're eventually want to 131 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:25,280 have more of a regional park with the 132 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:26,479 other properties that develop. 133 00:05:26,479 --> 00:05:27,840 >> Okay. That was just I just wanted to 134 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:29,919 know what the plan was. Okay. 135 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:32,720 >> And Lacy and maybe a little bit more on 136 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,120 your on your point with the carnival. 137 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,960 They do have a half price night. That 138 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Monday night is always a half price 139 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,600 night. So 140 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,199 >> Friday night I believe is the 141 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:42,560 >> Yes, Friday night. It's the It's the 142 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,039 first. Yes, 143 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:44,479 >> we'll just make sure to push that more 144 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:46,639 maybe for people that are upset about 145 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:48,479 the prices. So, they have price. 146 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:49,840 >> I've I've been I've been impressed with 147 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:51,360 City of Fun, especially as I've compared 148 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,600 them to other carnivals in other cities. 149 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,039 I think they do a pretty good job. 150 00:05:55,039 --> 00:05:56,400 >> Yep. 151 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,680 >> Okay. Any other questions? 152 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,120 >> I do want to make a statement. I just 153 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,280 want to thank our our recorder for how 154 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:03,199 well she does with the minutes as I 155 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:04,560 review those. Those have been looking 156 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,160 really nice. So, thank you so much for 157 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,880 the detail and uh and how concise those 158 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,479 minutes are. 159 00:06:10,479 --> 00:06:13,120 >> Okay. Wonderful. Anything else? Okay, 160 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 I'm ready for a motion. 161 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,360 >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the 162 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,720 consent agenda. 163 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,759 >> I'll second that. 164 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:21,680 >> Okay, we have a motion been seconded. 165 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Roll call vote starting with council 166 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:23,840 Moss. 167 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:24,240 >> Yes. 168 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,199 >> Council Roelly, 169 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:25,600 >> yes. 170 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,479 >> Council Smith, 171 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:26,880 >> yes. 172 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,240 >> And council Helet. 173 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,280 >> Yes. 174 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:32,560 >> Thank you. Motion carries. Uh D. 175 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Petitions PAC and Sanquin Chamber 176 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Quarterly Report and Awards. Jim, I saw 177 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:45,990 you here. 178 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 and Lacy, Friday night, much smaller 179 00:06:48,479 --> 00:06:50,720 crowds. Great night to go to the 180 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,360 festival for sure. 181 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,120 I am Jim Roland, the president of the 182 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,599 PAC and Santa Quinn Chamber of Commerce. 183 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:02,000 Hello, mayor, city council, and members 184 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,720 of the community. Light crowd tonight. 185 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,029 No, nothing to fight about tonight. 186 00:07:09,039 --> 00:07:11,520 fight. 187 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,919 >> All right. Yeah. Well, I won't add to 188 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:17,759 anything to fight about either. So, um 189 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:21,360 it's uh my pleasure to um provide a 190 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,360 quarterly update on what's been going on 191 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,080 with the chamber um to help support and 192 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,800 grow our local businesses. This first 193 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 quarter of the year is the slowest time 194 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,680 of the year for chamber events. Um 195 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,720 though I don't feel like I've had any 196 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,680 more time on my plate to do other 197 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,400 things. Um but it is a slower month. We 198 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,960 enjoyed our um another great successful 199 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,280 annual awards gayla at Moments on Maine 200 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,840 in February. The theme this year was 201 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Garage to Great Powering America 250. um 202 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 where we celebrate the incredible 203 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,120 success stories of our local business 204 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,080 owners and nonprofits that are really 205 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,759 the engine to to our community. 206 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:09,840 We were honored to have Major General 207 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Jefferson Burton as our special guest 208 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,199 speaker and I'm proud to share that our 209 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:20,639 $10 balloon pop um raised $1,190 for our 210 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:24,000 high school scholarship program. 211 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,120 And we are working diligently this week, 212 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,360 right Ann to choose uh some our first 213 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,519 award winners that we'll announce next 214 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:37,279 week or on May 4th at their banquet. So 215 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:39,839 we're excited to uh to present that 216 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:41,680 scholarship 217 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,720 to a high school graduate. 218 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,200 The community guide magazine came out 219 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,200 about a week or so ago. I dropped off a 220 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 couple more copies. I put some more out 221 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,560 on the front uh table if anybody wants 222 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,640 to grab one. 223 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,959 >> Hey Jim, I did the wonderful wonderful 224 00:08:58,959 --> 00:09:00,800 magazine. I love it. Thank you. I did 225 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,680 want to ask the population for Pacin and 226 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,680 Sanquin. It's exactly the same. I'm 227 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,440 curious. Is that a typo or really the 228 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,240 exact same? 229 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 >> You know, we can only find what we can 230 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,200 find. 231 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,880 >> Right. So that's what you found. must be 232 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,760 the numbers that 233 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,440 >> interesting. Okay. 234 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,000 >> So, 235 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,399 >> and I think that is a little bit high by 236 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:20,160 comparison some of the figures that I've 237 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,399 seen too, but we're between 24 and 238 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:23,120 25,000. 239 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:23,680 >> Right. Okay. 240 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:26,240 >> Yeah. I know a couple years ago we were 241 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,440 definitely three or 4,000 ahead. 242 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:29,920 >> Right. 243 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:30,320 >> So, 244 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,839 >> there's been a lot of growth in South 245 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:33,360 Santa. So, that was interesting to me. 246 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Thank you. 247 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,080 >> According to Robert over here, it's very 248 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,440 close. 249 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,600 >> Really? Wow. 250 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,040 >> What are we going to do about that? 251 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,190 sell more houses in case 252 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,200 » um anyway the magazine is really fun. 253 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 It's got um a calendar of events for the 254 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,120 entire year. So it's not just PAC 255 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,720 events. It's all the the whole Wasuch 256 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,240 community. 257 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,839 Um a lot of it celebrating America 250. 258 00:10:05,839 --> 00:10:08,000 Um so there's tons of events throughout 259 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 the valley. Um, and uh, it's got a lot 260 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,440 of uh, advertisements from our local 261 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 businesses. So, I ask that you support 262 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,360 those businesses and um, and enjoy the 263 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,120 magazine. 264 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,079 Uh, we celebrated some uh, ribbon 265 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:27,680 cutings this quarter um, welcoming some 266 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,959 new growth to the community. um included 267 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:34,000 uh great local additions like pre-loved, 268 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,000 the pace invention innovation center and 269 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,680 studio 22 salon suites and a reopening 270 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,959 celebration of the Wayfair Theater. 271 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:47,760 The there are two more businesses that I 272 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,959 know of that are on the brink of 273 00:10:48,959 --> 00:10:51,760 opening. Uh the first one is Beehive 274 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Bandit Burgers which is located next to 275 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,959 Caesar's Little Caesars up by the high 276 00:10:56,959 --> 00:11:00,240 school. Um they I get a feeling it's any 277 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,079 day now they will be serving some 278 00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:04,320 burgers up there. So be sure to check 279 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,680 them out. And another great new addition 280 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:10,800 to our community is Western Timber Frame 281 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,680 who is moving into the old bowling 282 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,360 alley. Um they build magnificent wooden 283 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,800 structures for commercial buildings and 284 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,640 uh they're going to be a great um 285 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,519 employer in our community. Uh we have a 286 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,680 few issues to resolve at the building 287 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,480 that hopefully will get resolved quickly 288 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,640 and uh we will have a big ribbon cutting 289 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,880 and celebration there soon as well. 290 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,040 >> I just Jim I might mentioned too they're 291 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,600 they have won some accreditation from 292 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,760 the small businesses. 293 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,360 >> They did. That's right. They won 294 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,079 >> lets them go on to further competition. 295 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:51,360 >> Yep. It gives them uh some some power to grow even even bigger than what they 296 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,120 are. So, I don't know how much land 297 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,720 comes with that building, if they have 298 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,920 room for growth, but um they uh they 299 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,600 have quite a cool operation. So, I'm 300 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,040 excited to get over there and check them 301 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,200 out. Um we are in the middle of planning 302 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,160 our next hometown market season in Santa 303 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Quinn. Uh we'll get many of the vendors 304 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,279 at that market will come from our PAC 305 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,480 businesses. um including on July 13th 306 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,120 our young entrepreneur night um which 307 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,440 brings out a lot of incredible youth in 308 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,320 our community um that do some amazing 309 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,399 things. I met uh Alexa Ellis from the 310 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:31,839 PAC Treehouse um here on Pac Main 311 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:34,079 Street. I don't know if any of you have 312 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:38,240 met her yet. Um I don't The treehouse is 313 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,040 right above Remax Furniture where there 314 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,040 was a yoga studio or something up above 315 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,920 there. Um, so she's got a cool little 316 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,160 business there and she's been um 317 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,240 diligently meeting with all the downtown 318 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,040 businesses and is very anxious to pull 319 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,160 off a hometown market on Main Street and 320 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,040 other activities and she feels that 321 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,839 there's a lot of support from the other 322 00:13:01,839 --> 00:13:04,480 business owners on Main Street. So, I 323 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,000 will be working closely with her and Ty 324 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,200 um Jones to see what we can develop and 325 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,760 maybe we can have a PAC hometown market 326 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,680 here later this year or next year. Um, 327 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,680 unfortunately, we had to cancel our 328 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,360 upcoming garage to gray workshop that 329 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 was scheduled for next Friday. Um, but 330 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,360 we do have another one planned for 331 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,920 October and are looking forward to that. 332 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,560 Um, that is my report. Thank you for 333 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:33,120 allowing me time to share. Is there any 334 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,200 questions or 335 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,120 anything the chamber can do to help 336 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,800 support our local businesses? 337 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,399 >> I just want to say thank you so much as 338 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:42,240 the city council representative for the 339 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,839 chamber of commerce. You guys work 340 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:47,120 really really hard and you are 341 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,279 constantly texting each other and 342 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:51,839 planning things and and you're there for 343 00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:54,240 the businesses and there for Pacin City 344 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,279 and and and its residents and I don't 345 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:59,760 think we could do a lot of what happens 346 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,240 without you guys. So, thank you so much. 347 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,079 >> Thank you. 348 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:04,560 >> All right. 349 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:04,959 >> Thank you. 350 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:05,680 very much. 351 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:09,670 >> Thanks, Jim. 352 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,320 » The next item on the 353 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,399 petitions is the I-15 interchange 354 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:17,120 update. I don't see Eric here. 355 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,079 >> We're skipping it. 356 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:19,760 Okay, we'll go ahead 357 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,360 and move to the next one. Number three, 358 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,639 proclamation municipal clerk's week. 359 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:30,959 Any information now or just uh 360 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:32,800 I think it's 361 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,279 >> me do it. 362 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:39,110 >> Come on, Emily. 363 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,760 » Yeah, it's a week for me. 364 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,399 >> Yeah. So, 365 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:49,839 >> turn it off. Oh, jeez. You guys see? Um, 366 00:14:49,839 --> 00:14:52,000 it's the first week in May. I know I'm 367 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,040 already like um and it just recognizes 368 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,279 municipal clerks and their role in the 369 00:14:57,279 --> 00:14:59,440 city that is support that supports all 370 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,600 departments and council and and yeah so 371 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,480 that's what that is. 372 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,519 >> Okay. 373 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:06,320 >> And you're awesome. 374 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:06,880 >> Thank you. 375 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,920 >> Did a great job. 376 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,079 >> Thank you. 377 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:13,360 >> Okay. Moving on. Uh we'll open a public 378 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,000 forum. Anyone can speak. Uh please be 379 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,959 cognizant of your time. Try to hit 380 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:21,279 around three minutes. uh less if you 381 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:24,079 don't need to take more. So, uh just let 382 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:26,320 us know who you are and what what you'd 383 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,069 like to tell us. 384 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:37,350 Come on up. 385 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,959 Hello. Thank you. My name is Sarah 386 00:15:38,959 --> 00:15:41,920 Ogden. Um I have been a resident of PAC 387 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,560 city for six years and I understand that 388 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,000 the topic I'm about to bring up has 389 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,360 already been addressed before. Um, I 390 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,519 think our city should allow two to three 391 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:55,519 goats on lots smaller than half an acre. 392 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,440 Uh, the concerns that ultimately led to 393 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,000 shutting down this idea 5 years ago can 394 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,839 be mitigated with proper infrastructure 395 00:16:01,839 --> 00:16:04,320 and well-managed care. 396 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,959 Some advantages to owning goats are to 397 00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:08,880 help patient citizens to be producers 398 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,440 instead of just consumers. 399 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,959 Goats um provide companionship much like 400 00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:17,040 cats and dogs along with milk, meat, 401 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,079 fiber, and fertilizer. Their milk is in 402 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:22,959 high demand. It's nutritious, easier to 403 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:24,720 digest than cow milk, and thus great for 404 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,040 many with sensitivities to cow milk. Its 405 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,560 high butter fat content makes it 406 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,560 excellent for gourmet cooking to make 407 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,240 nourishing foods like yogurt and cheese, 408 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,079 as well as skin care, such as lotion and 409 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:35,040 soap. 410 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,000 >> The meat is also nutrientdense. 411 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,600 >> You can use fiber for spinning into 412 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,040 yarn. 413 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Like rabbit manure, goat manure is cold 414 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,480 and can be applied to gardens without 415 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,680 burning the plants from too much 416 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,440 nitrogen. Both weeds and feed are 417 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,199 processed into a rich soil amendment 418 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:53,440 that increases soil's water retention, 419 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,959 which is a wonderful thing in this 420 00:16:54,959 --> 00:17:00,320 drought. Um, it also allowing goats 421 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,160 will allow for sustainable 422 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,759 self-sufficiency. 423 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:05,520 Goats don't actually require as much 424 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,439 room as you might imagine to be happy 425 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:09,919 and healthy. In just a 20 by 10 foot 426 00:17:09,919 --> 00:17:12,319 pen, a couple of miniature goats could 427 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:14,000 produce between half 428 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,160 >> to one gallon of milk per day. 429 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,240 >> I recognize that noise, smells, 430 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,199 property damage, and animals at large 431 00:17:25,199 --> 00:17:26,959 are all valid concerns that deserve 432 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:30,880 attention and consideration. Um, in my 433 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,880 opinion, 434 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,120 I don't see goats ever becoming a bigger 435 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:37,039 noise issue than dogs if their needs are 436 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:39,440 being met. 437 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,480 Also, for smells, I don't see their 438 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,480 manure, if properly managed, ever 439 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,799 smelling worse than dog poo or cat poo. 440 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,520 Um, certainly for property damage and 441 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,880 animals getting out, we want to make 442 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,799 sure that pens are secure and we would 443 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:57,039 have the same kind of rules in place 444 00:17:57,039 --> 00:17:59,360 that we have for dogs. 445 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,440 So, I propose that we move toward 446 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,520 drafting an ordinance to allow two to 447 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520 three miniature goats on lots less than 448 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,000 half an acre. We can in include 449 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,760 provisions regarding adequate space, 450 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,799 shelter, fencing, care, and maintenance. 451 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:14,480 Uh, 5 years ago, when this issue was 452 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,919 brought before the city council, a 453 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:18,320 petition had been signed by over 350 454 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,960 individuals in favor of allowing goats 455 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,760 on smaller lots in PAC. So, I'm 456 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,440 wondering if maybe we can put this on a 457 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,840 ballot to vote, have the people vote on 458 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,160 it, or perhaps implement a pilot 459 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,919 program. I hope one day soon to see PAC 460 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:35,919 embrace the great homesteading spirit 461 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:38,160 that made our country what it is. To 462 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,840 empower our citizens to take care of 463 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,080 themselves and each other, to embrace 464 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,400 the principles of freedom and industry, 465 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,280 to make preserving that small town feel 466 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,840 not just some superficial catchphrase, 467 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,600 but actually an ideal that we live and 468 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,600 work toward. Thank you. 469 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,400 >> Thank you. 470 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,440 >> Thanks, Sarah. 471 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,000 >> Okay. Anyone else like to address this? 472 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,430 >> No. Jim, you've already done it. 473 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,909 I'm speaking as a resident now. 474 00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:15,039 I I don't really have much prepared, but 475 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:19,600 I was just thinking about the uh path on 476 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,000 um Dry Creek Path, I think it's called, 477 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,799 right from 1400 up to almost Main 478 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:26,720 Street. 479 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,960 There are some pretty big motorcycles 480 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,919 that ride on that path, and it's very 481 00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:33,760 scary when you come across them 482 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,919 unknowingly. Um, I have not been caught 483 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:40,960 in the tunnel under under the road with 484 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,080 a motorcycle burling around that corner 485 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,760 yet. Um, but I can picture 486 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,360 the fear of my wife and my dogs while 487 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,400 inside that tunnel. I I'm not coming 488 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,960 with a solution, but I would sure like 489 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,919 to just voice our concern 490 00:19:59,919 --> 00:20:03,120 as as a walking path to be fighting 491 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:07,360 against um these motorcycles. A lot of 492 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:11,120 electric bikes as well are on that path 493 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:14,000 and and if I had an electric bike, I 494 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,600 couldn't think of a better path to be 495 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,919 riding on myself. 496 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:21,360 So, I'm stuck with what do I do as a 497 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:24,640 parent with my kids on their bikes and 498 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,640 stuff? Where do I send them? I certainly 499 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,159 don't want them out on the highway in 500 00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:30,960 the roads. Um, but I sure would like to 501 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,360 see a way to ban them from that walking 502 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,400 trail, if it indeed is a walking trail. 503 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,919 And I'm I'm not going to spill the 504 00:20:39,919 --> 00:20:41,760 beans, but we are we are working on a 505 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,720 solution right now. Uh the for the for 506 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,320 the police to have to give them the 507 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,559 ability to to watch over that and patrol 508 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,400 that. And so hopefully that will 509 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,559 curtail. Hopefully a few a few warnings 510 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:54,159 will scare these individuals straight 511 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:55,360 because because right now they're not 512 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,559 supposed to do it. 513 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:58,400 >> It's against already for 514 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 >> it's against city ordinance. 515 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,600 >> Yeah. becomes an enforcement issue and 516 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,360 you know can't be there 24 hours a day 517 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:05,840 and 518 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,919 >> but you may see some different bikes 519 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:10,080 there that could offer some enforcement. 520 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,240 >> Yeah. And I know there's a difference 521 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,520 between 522 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,240 >> they'll be loud. 523 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,440 >> An electric bike and a motorbike and 524 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,120 sometimes that's a very fine line and 525 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,960 those electric bikes have gotten big and 526 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,960 heavy and these are little kids that 527 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,559 drive these things that have no more 528 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:27,520 control over it than I might. Um that 529 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,840 it's just a it's just a dangerous thing 530 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,679 for a beautiful pet. Well, and it's been 531 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:34,880 an ongoing um issue for the Maples HOA 532 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,240 over there, too. We uh when I was on 533 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,840 that board, we tried to put signs up. 534 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,159 They'd get stolen 535 00:21:42,159 --> 00:21:43,840 um or ignored. 536 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,400 >> And the signs I I showed the mayor one 537 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,880 sign there and it's it's like 20 ft off 538 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,080 the path and and apparently it didn't 539 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,799 >> have any. 540 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:54,640 >> It wasn't one of our signs. It was an 541 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,280 sign. Yeah. Yeah. 542 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,679 >> So, I have not seen any sign about not 543 00:21:57,679 --> 00:21:58,159 being, 544 00:21:58,159 --> 00:21:59,520 >> but it is something we're we're aware of 545 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,960 and cognizant of and something we're 546 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,039 actually actively working on on taking 547 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:03,760 care of. 548 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,919 >> Great. Well, if you need a deputy on the 549 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:08,640 path, let me know. I can help you out. 550 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,679 >> You have more time, too. 551 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:11,440 >> On your hands. 552 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,880 >> A man's got to walk, you know. 553 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,360 >> That's true. 554 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,200 >> I got to get my 7,000 steps in. 555 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,559 >> Yeah. Should we give you a dirt bike to 556 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,480 patrol it? 557 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,120 >> Probably wouldn't be a good image. Thank 558 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,240 you. Thanks. 559 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,840 >> Thanks, Jim. Anyone 560 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,870 else? 561 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,520 Not seeing anyone here. Uh, anybody 562 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,240 online, Emily? 563 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,000 Okay, thank you. We'll go ahead and 564 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,880 close the public forum and move on to 565 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:49,590 staff reports. 566 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,039 » I doubt that. Um, I just want to thank 567 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:54,960 Jim for bringing that up. We do have a 568 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,600 solution in the works. Um, our resource 569 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,200 officers in the when they get out of 570 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,440 school, they're going to be uh signed to 571 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,600 trails. So, we're going to have a big 572 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,360 enforcement. Uh, the legislature changed 573 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,520 a few rules. Those bikes that you see, 574 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,440 those fast ones, those are actually 575 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,039 considered motorcycles and need to be 576 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,919 licensed. So, we've got a a campaign 577 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:15,360 we're coming up with right now. You'll 578 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:16,799 start seeing it on social media here in 579 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:18,799 the next probably couple weeks. and 580 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,080 we're going to get out there and and 581 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,520 really make a dent in that. Um they're a little they evade pretty easy, 582 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,640 so sometimes it's hard, but we we'll 583 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,120 we're we'll be working on it shortly. We 584 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,600 just once our high school or our uh 585 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520 SRO's get out of the schools, we're 586 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,200 going to move them to trail and and 587 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,039 street enforcement for the summer. So, 588 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:40,880 it's a it'll be a good solution and 589 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,720 hopefully that carries on through the 590 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,000 whole year where we don't have them year 591 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,840 round, but at least we'll get good three 592 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,440 months of good enforcement and some 593 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,919 education out there. So, 594 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:52,159 >> hey Chief, can I just interject and 595 00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:53,600 clarify for me because we see a lot more 596 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,440 of these electric bikes running around 597 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000 even following traffic patterns. At what 598 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,360 point does that cross the line and 599 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,760 become illegal? I mean, are they ever so 600 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,480 >> It depends on the on the bike. Okay. So, 601 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,240 the ones that like the Saron bikes, 602 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,559 those are illegal all the time. They are 603 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,640 considered motorbikes. 604 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640 So they're they're capable of going 20 605 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,919 miles an hour or higher. They're going 606 00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:15,840 to be considered a motorcycle. 607 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,039 >> Okay. 608 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,080 >> Scott, we got to make sure. 609 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 >> Well, we're not going to let Scott ride 610 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,799 a bike anymore just for obvious reasons, 611 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:26,400 but 612 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,240 >> that scar on his head may tell you a 613 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,360 tale of that, but um no, it's it's a 614 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,120 huge problem. It's a huge problem in 615 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,600 every I mean I live on I live on canal 616 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,120 by canal road in Salem and we have a 617 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,200 trail along there and I I see 618 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,440 12-year-old kids riding a wheelie at 60 619 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,320 miles an hour past my house almost daily 620 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,559 >> and that's why the law was changed a 621 00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:47,919 little bit. It didn't change a lot, but 622 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:49,520 there is there is a campaign that's 623 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,840 coming out that uh we did lobby 624 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600 legislature for some education money 625 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,679 that's going to be coming through uh 626 00:24:55,679 --> 00:24:58,559 either DD DNR or highway safety office. 627 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:01,360 Um just aformational campaign. There is 628 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,480 some rules and regulations. Um we did 629 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,159 make it easier for us to hold on to the 630 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:07,600 bike till we can get a parent to come 631 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,000 get it. Um if it is a if it is in the 632 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,440 motorcycle category, we can actually 633 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,600 impound it. Uh we're not we're not 634 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,200 trying to take everybody's stuff. So, 635 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,679 we're going to try and ease into it and be a good neighbor about it. But, uh 636 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,840 I mean, you've seen the news. We've had 637 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,799 probably 10 or 12 uh young young adults 638 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:26,960 or young children, not young, but you 639 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,200 know, between 10 and 16 years old that 640 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,799 have died on them this year. And that's where the bill originated was out 641 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,960 of Centerville. So, um I know Southern 642 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,679 Utah's had a a rash of of serious 643 00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:40,400 injuries or even deaths on those. So, 644 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,279 um, it's just not super responsible to, 645 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,159 you know, give a 60 mph, you know, 646 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:48,159 motorcycle to a 12-year-old kid, right? 647 00:25:48,159 --> 00:25:49,039 There there's 648 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:49,760 >> there's a lot. 649 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,480 >> See it all the time. 650 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,159 >> Council Moss called me. Councilwoman 651 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,320 Moss called me the other night and by 652 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,919 the time I got down there, they were I 653 00:25:55,919 --> 00:25:57,520 could not find spent 30 minutes looking 654 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,679 for them and they just 655 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:00,799 >> saw you coming. 656 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:02,159 >> Well, it's funny. I don't think they see 657 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:03,679 me coming, but I was suspicious enough 658 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:06,080 that they they got out of there. So, but 659 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,440 from there, there's trails all over. 660 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,799 They can go anywhere in town. That's the bad the the other issue we're 661 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,640 working on that's kind of part of that 662 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,080 is the graffiti. I mean last last 663 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,320 May, June and July, we got hit really 664 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,799 hard with graffiti in our pocket parks. 665 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:24,799 Um and that's another aspect that we're trying to curtail as well as 666 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:26,559 far as that that enforcement effort goes 667 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,440 through. So we've got a multiaceted 668 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,039 situation that we've got to get a handle 669 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,360 on somehow. You know, the pocket parks, 670 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,520 they're they're hidden. They're dark. 671 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,039 You know, we were going to put some 672 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:38,400 cameras up. We don't have any internet 673 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,000 service. We don't have any any power at 674 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,600 some of them. So, we're, you know, 675 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,600 looking at some other options, but 676 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,120 that's kind of where we're at on that. 677 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:56,630 >> Thanks, Chief. 678 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,760 » Chief number two, 679 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,240 >> right? Uh, kind of tag team and Brad. I 680 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,799 we do have on on the parks and trails 681 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,440 end I have all of Provos who have really 682 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,159 delved into this especially with the uh 683 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:12,640 the ebikes uh I think the most dangerous 684 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,200 thing we find is they're silent. 685 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,159 >> So, you know, you can have a mom or dad 686 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:20,559 with a stroller just walking along and 687 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,640 so so we do have all that and I' I've 688 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,000 talked with Brad and we'll continue to 689 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,480 work together to get signage up there. 690 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Uh so, but that's not why I'm here 691 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,840 tonight. Although I was really gonna 692 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,679 embarrass Scott, but Brad kind of stole my thunder, so I won't do that. 693 00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:39,600 But uh we we are we did we did offer uh 694 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,039 a new parks position to a gentleman and 695 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,919 we're hiring another position that that 696 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:48,400 left. So we'll have two new employees. 697 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,679 Soon as we get everything buttoned up, 698 00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:50,960 we'll bring them in here and introduce 699 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,480 you. So we're excited about that on the 700 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,600 parks end. Uh and then I really wanted 701 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,880 to report on 930 West Park down there. 702 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,440 Uh what we uh Councilwoman Moss has been 703 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,880 gracious enough to send me some 704 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,320 pictures. We've been trying to talk to 705 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,600 everyone about uh the look. Uh kind of 706 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840 what we landed on is me and Wes ended up 707 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,640 at the Pacin Temple uh meeting with 708 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,279 their grounds crew going kind of over 709 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:21,360 their whole exterior plan uh choosing 710 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,880 some stuff. We thought if we could kind 711 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,200 of bring that look outside the temple 712 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,320 down 9:30. So, that's kind of where 713 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,880 we're going with that. Um, so just with 714 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,799 the types of trees and and the type of 715 00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,039 look that that's in the temple, we 716 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:36,640 thought that would work best since they 717 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,279 did all the research to know what grows 718 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,440 best and and everything in that area. 719 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240 Uh, but on that, we've just been waiting 720 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,039 for the water to be energized and you'll 721 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,840 start seeing trees saw, different things 722 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,760 go in. The benches have been ordered. 723 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,200 You probably seen some pads down there 724 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,919 that we've poured. They're selling those 725 00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:58,320 this weekend. So anyway, that's just a 726 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,240 report on that. I just I know people 727 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,320 drive past it and see it sitting there. 728 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,080 It's only because we've been waiting for 729 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320 water. That's it. Soon as we have full 730 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,559 water, then we'll start planting and do 731 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:09,360 everything. So 732 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,640 >> So Tracy, I'm going to ask the question 733 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,399 that you're tired of getting asked, but 734 00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:13,840 what is the deal with that bridge that's 735 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,120 just chilling there on the side of the 736 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,679 road? 737 00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:18,880 >> That is a development question. Uh so 738 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,960 that that honestly is the development 739 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,080 that's just east, 740 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,960 >> right? It's just been 741 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,799 >> and and originally that that trail's 742 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,320 supposed to go to that bridge, cut 743 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,559 across, go go go through that way, but 744 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,799 we honestly got sick of waiting for 745 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:31,600 them. 746 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,760 >> And so we're we're turning the trail 747 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,279 across 9:30 to capture it. Yeah. 748 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:38,720 >> And we're going to have to put up 749 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,679 something temporary but permanent enough 750 00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:43,840 that people walking, you know, will have 751 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,159 to transition there because you want to 752 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:48,159 go straight and there's it's going into 753 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:49,679 no man's land. 754 00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:51,679 >> Yeah. So, it's frustrating, but that's 755 00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:53,120 that development that 756 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,520 >> Okay. 757 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,559 >> That's in charge of putting that in. So, 758 00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:57,840 >> before he put in 759 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,039 >> Oh, the bridge has been there a long 760 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:00,240 time. 761 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,679 >> We've been dealing with that for eight 762 00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:02,399 years. 763 00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:04,559 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, that's why we've finally 764 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:06,080 just pivoted and said we're going to 765 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,679 turn it and we're going to 766 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:09,520 >> get this done. So, 767 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600 >> it is. Now, can you give us a quick 768 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,120 update on the short course, how that's 769 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120 >> Sure. Yeah. I I I had a gentleman in 770 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,960 from North Carolina last two days who's 771 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,760 helping with putting putting everything 772 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720 into into the mapping, you know, part of 773 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,039 it. So, not necessarily design, but 774 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,720 safety features, different things like 775 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,480 that. So, uh Kent's guys have been great 776 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,520 or Travis's uh coming up and helping. 777 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,880 We're getting to the point now that 778 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,679 we'll get all these uh maps back that we 779 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:42,880 can really settle into costs of 780 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,080 everything. 781 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480 >> So, uh I should within two week probably 782 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,559 by next council meeting really have a 783 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,960 feel for not necessarily the layout, but 784 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,399 you know how we're going to do this. 785 00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:52,960 >> Awesome. 786 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,480 >> We're having a blast. I had Dave and 787 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Robert up there. Uh yeah, and anytime 788 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,480 you guys want to come walk through it, 789 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,200 I'd love to give anyone a tour and take 790 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,279 any ideas like on retention and diff 791 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,240 just different looks and but I I can't 792 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880 say I'm like you do. I'll take your I'll 793 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,240 listen to you, but we'll do whatever we 794 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,559 want. 795 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,799 >> Yeah, 796 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:14,799 >> I'll just I should we'll strike that 797 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:15,360 from the record. 798 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,919 >> We'll we'll tell Eric that. 799 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:20,880 >> So, thank you. Thanks, Tracy. 800 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:29,190 >> I know. 801 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,480 Well, you're wearing a nice shirt, 802 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,870 Janine. 803 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,799 » Mayor and Council, I just want to do a 804 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:38,559 shout out of a couple events we have 805 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:43,200 coming up. Um, Arbor Day is the 23rd 806 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,760 and it'll be at Memorial Park and we've 807 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,000 invited Park View Elementary, third 808 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,880 grade. So Wes will talk to the third 809 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,960 grade about Arbor Day and about trees 810 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,360 and about planting trees and then we'll 811 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,480 split 812 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,240 >> that is this month. Yep. 813 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,640 And then we'll split into groups and u 814 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,399 we've had a couple of trees that we've 815 00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:06,559 had to take out at Memorial Park. So 816 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,440 we'll replace those during that day. So 817 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600 and that's at 100 p.m. And you're all 818 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,240 invited 819 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,679 >> on the 23rd. 820 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:17,279 >> 23rd. Correct. Yeah. And then Miss Pacin 821 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,760 will also join us and she'll hand out 822 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,240 cookies and punch to the kids. So it's 823 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,320 fun. Um May 5th is Cinco de Mayo. That's 824 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,039 a Tuesday and that's at the amphitheater 825 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,519 at the Petite Meat and that's from 5 to 826 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:34,880 9 and you're all invited to that too. 827 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,279 Last year we got rained out so we were 828 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,000 all up on the stage so it was a we were 829 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,600 all it was fun actually. It was we were 830 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840 a part of the presentation so it was 831 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,840 exciting. So we're hoping for better 832 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960 weather this year. So okay, thank you. 833 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,919 >> Thanks Janine. 834 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,000 >> Janine, what was the the times on Cinco 835 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,880 de Mayo? 836 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,519 >> 5 to 9. 837 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:13,750 >> Thank you. 838 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,679 Hello, Mayor and Council. I do have a 839 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:19,840 Taria and it is not for sale 840 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 despite my wife's wishes. 841 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,480 She is trying to sell it while I was in 842 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,389 the ER. 843 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:31,120 Um, just to give you let you know a few 844 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,559 things. We've got open burning going on 845 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,000 right now, which is always a challenge. 846 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,360 Everybody wants to burn everything in 847 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,000 their their yard and then some. Um, but 848 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,440 not everything's allowed to be burned. 849 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,679 So, trying to regulate that and have 850 00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:45,360 people do it properly. Um, but we've had 851 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,960 a few challenges with some of the 852 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,519 residents or people with their lovely 853 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,120 cell phones see smoke and they call it 854 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,679 in just because like burning prunings or 855 00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:54,880 something like that in the orchards, 856 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,600 they don't like to see smoke or flames 857 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,960 so they call it in even though people 858 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760 are following the rules. Um, 859 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,360 also to make you aware, we're working on 860 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,200 our wildlands reertification. We have to 861 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,159 do that with pack test. Um, carrying 45 862 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,440 pounds in three miles in 45 minutes or 863 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,079 less. So, it's an arduous um test to 864 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,440 make sure our people can do that so we 865 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,839 can go on federal fires um for extended 866 00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:22,480 times. Um, so we're working on that this 867 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,960 month. And uh the they opened the gates 868 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,919 today up to the ski lift. Um, so for 869 00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:29,040 those who don't know where the ski lift 870 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,359 is, past the grotto to the parking lot 871 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:34,240 up above. Um, so those are open to that 872 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,599 point now. 873 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,520 >> Okay. And the question I've been here my 874 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,200 whole life, heard that phrase my whole 875 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,720 life. Was there ever actually a ski lift 876 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:41,599 up? 877 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:42,399 >> There was. Yes. 878 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:42,879 >> Yes. 879 00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:44,480 >> Yep. You can still see some of the 880 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,879 concrete up in the trees just east or 881 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:48,399 west of the parking lot. Yeah. 882 00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:50,639 >> It went up that hill up towards Pete 883 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,000 Winward. Yeah, 884 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,839 >> that was in her sc that was in her 885 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:56,240 scavenger hunt last year for adventure 886 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:57,359 day. 887 00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:59,440 >> Okay. Okay, cool. Thank you. 888 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,520 >> I I skied there all the time. That's how 889 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,480 old I am. 890 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,200 >> Did you really? 891 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,160 >> No. 892 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,839 >> I know the gray hair is kind of 893 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:09,599 misleading, isn't it? 894 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:11,200 >> I got out of the ER. 895 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,440 >> Exactly. In my own mind, I was. 896 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,640 Um the last thing is um Station 92 is 897 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,079 coming along really good. We're trying 898 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,599 to do the final little tweaks and stuff 899 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,200 on the site plan. Um, and what they call 900 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,520 the vibe of the the color schemes and 901 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,400 stuff inside the station. That's always 902 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,720 fun. But it's come along trying to get 903 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,320 all the last details and stuff. So 904 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,119 hopefully within the next month to two 905 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,560 months, we'll have all the design done 906 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640 and and get going here shortly. So 907 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960 things are going really well. So thank 908 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:58,230 you 909 00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,760 Got any other staff? I thought you were 910 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,119 going to get up here, Dave, for a 911 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:05,670 second. 912 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,400 » Okay. Okay. If there's no other staff, 913 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,920 we'll move to uh council reports. Uh, 914 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,599 I'll I'll start with Brian Hullet 915 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,440 because I might forget you if I don't do 916 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,359 it right now. Go ahead, Brian. 917 00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:20,480 >> Yeah, I just have one quick thing is um 918 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,200 we uh the downtown organization got a 919 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,880 grant from the state to be able to um 920 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,480 contract with somebody. So, they 921 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,079 contract with Rhonda Hair to be the uh 922 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,880 director for downtown. So, I think she 923 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,680 contracted to do about 20 hours a week. 924 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,920 >> Okay. Thank you. We'll go ahead and 925 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,119 start here with uh Lacy. Would you like 926 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,359 to 927 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:52,240 >> um I only have a a thank you to the 928 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,280 beautiful bright red curb all along the 929 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,560 baseball fields and all 14 signs, but 930 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,400 one already did get taken out, just so 931 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,880 you know. 932 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,079 >> Yes. Right on the corner. 933 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:03,200 >> Right on the corner. 934 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,040 >> We didn't see it happen, but we know who 935 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,760 did it. 936 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,839 >> Okay. Anyway, but it looks beautiful. 937 00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:09,520 And I will tell you since it's been 938 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,839 down, I haven't seen one person parked 939 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:14,960 there. And I do drive that road a lot. 940 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,040 Um, and then I just wanted to say this 941 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,760 to Sarah because I noticed we all talked 942 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,560 after Jim spoke, but I heard what you 943 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,599 said and although I have no way of 944 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,760 knowing how it all works, if anything, 945 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,599 I'm more than happy to talk to whoever 946 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:31,520 because I have a few ideas because I 947 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,200 know that there are there is an 948 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,839 ordinance with a certain land that if 949 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:40,240 your neighbors agree to the animals, 950 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,160 you're allowed to have certain animals 951 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,119 on certain sized land. It is bigger, not 952 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,119 a halfacre, but so I'm happy to talk to 953 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:48,800 whoever, but I heard you. So, I just 954 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,400 wanted to make sure you know. That's 955 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640 all. 956 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,440 >> Ryan, 957 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,280 >> thank you, Mayor. I just have one little 958 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,640 thing. Um, the parking lot for pre-loved 959 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,160 and fat cats and whatever else. They're leasing that, correct, from a 960 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,760 different owner. Um, as as I notice on 961 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,000 the east side, they they had they now have the parking lot fully 962 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,320 fenced in. Um, but on the east side 963 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,480 there's no access for pedestrians. So, 964 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,920 you can only go out where the cars get 965 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920 in, which is on the south side. And 966 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,599 that's real tempting for kids and people 967 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,200 just to hurry and dart across the road 968 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,520 right there. And it's really busy blind 969 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,000 corner. And so, I think we need to talk 970 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,920 to that landowner about adding um uh 971 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,920 access in that fence line on the east 972 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,720 side to allow them to to eject the 973 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,440 pedestrians right next to the crosswalk 974 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,920 on the corner. Uh just on the way down 975 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,119 here just right just 20 minutes ago a 976 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:46,640 sweet little family was darting across 977 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,720 the road right out from the chain link 978 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,560 from that parking lot and there's no 979 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,320 crosswalk there. It's really dangerous. 980 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,839 That road's getting too busy to do stuff 981 00:38:53,839 --> 00:38:56,560 like that. So we need to we need to make 982 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,160 sure it's easier and more convenient for 983 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,839 people to use the crosswalk right there 984 00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:01,839 if those businesses are in fact going to 985 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,440 try to make that their parking lot 986 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,240 that's across the street. 987 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:05,440 >> Right. And I've got his phone number 988 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:05,920 swiped. 989 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,599 >> A raised hand from a very good student. 990 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:10,720 I didn't hear where you said that was 991 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:11,200 at. 992 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,880 >> Oh, pre-loved. So, right across the 993 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320 street from uh Fat Jacks to the 994 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,960 >> You the old Christmas tree lot. Yes. 995 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,680 Yep. 996 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,599 >> Yep. 997 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,599 >> I' I've got I've got his phone number, 998 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,680 so I'll be glad to contact. 999 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,400 >> Excellent. 1000 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,160 >> Just Just a little bit of history there, 1001 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,640 too. they approached me about that and 1002 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,880 uh and so what I I did is I had Jonathan 1003 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,040 from our our staff uh show what a you 1004 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,880 know a parking lot should look like and 1005 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,119 they could not access access that from 1006 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,040 the highway. It had to come off of Utah 1007 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,520 Avenue, but that that's just for cars. 1008 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:47,839 So 1009 00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:49,839 >> yeah, right. We need to Yeah, the they 1010 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:52,800 need to make access on Main Street for 1011 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,960 pedestrians. I'll be glad. I I need to 1012 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,320 talk to you about some other issues with 1013 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,440 you. 1014 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,079 >> And that's all I have. 1015 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,359 >> Okay. 1016 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:02,640 I don't have much either. I just 1017 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,160 want to thank our staff. They're always 1018 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,000 so willing to answer my phone calls and 1019 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,560 answer my questions. And you guys are so 1020 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,160 wonderful to work with and um kind 1021 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,599 knowledgeable and professional and um so 1022 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:18,079 thank you so much. And I echo what Lacy 1023 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:22,960 said about the goats and um what Sarah 1024 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,280 said. So I I'm willing to look into that 1025 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,359 as well. So thanks so much. That's all 1026 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:30,240 I've got. 1027 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,880 >> Okay. Thank you. We'll go ahead and move 1028 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,920 on to e action items. Public hearing 1029 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,119 amendments to the fiscal year 2025 2026 1030 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:44,150 budget. Kathy. 1031 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:50,710 » Yeah, she's right there. Yep. 1032 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,480 » Did I surprise you? 1033 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200 >> Okay. 1034 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,119 >> Try and get it up before I see myself on 1035 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,160 the screen. 1036 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,960 Let's see if I can get it up here. There 1037 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,720 we go. 1038 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,359 Okay. I put together a quick p quick 1039 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:18,630 PowerPoint will come up. Um, 1040 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:24,230 it's not to 1041 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,560 Sorry. I apologize. You're fine. We'll 1042 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,359 get there. Okay. Some of these concepts 1043 00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:30,960 are just a little bit thick. So, I 1044 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,800 thought it'd be easier to to talk 1045 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,319 through them a little bit. 1046 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:38,800 So, this is the budget adjustments, the 1047 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,440 expenditure side that we're proposing. 1048 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,200 Um just I'm not going to hit every one 1049 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,240 of them. Some of them are 1050 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,640 self-explanatory, but these are kind of 1051 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,280 some of the unusual ones. So in item 1052 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,520 three, initially we thought that the 1053 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,079 fire truck was a qualifiable expense 1054 00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,960 under the uh public safety impact fees. 1055 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,960 We found out that the only portion that 1056 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,280 we can pay out of park or public safety 1057 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,240 impact fees is the commercial portion. 1058 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,960 So, what we're going to do because we 1059 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,880 expect an audit on impact fees this 1060 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,359 year, we're going to transfer funds from 1061 00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:13,520 the revolving loan fund back to the park 1062 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,000 or the public safety impact fees and 1063 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000 then over time we're going to pay that 1064 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,760 back to the revolving loan fund through 1065 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,760 an internal loan from the fire 1066 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,880 department. 1067 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,520 >> So, so residential impact fees cannot 1068 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,040 help pay for a firetruck. 1069 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,640 >> No, just the commercial. 1070 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,240 >> That is that is 1071 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:31,839 >> that is silliness. Oh, that's 1072 00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:33,520 >> that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, 1073 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:33,920 >> right. 1074 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,800 >> Who decided that? The legislature. 1075 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,440 >> Yep. 1076 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,560 >> They don't have any houses. 1077 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,079 >> Sometimes they don't make any sense. 1078 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:41,520 >> That's something needs to be looked at. 1079 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,400 >> Wow. So, item four, this is an agreement 1080 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,400 with Arowopath Ranch to pay for park 1081 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,000 improvements. This is coming from the 1082 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640 park impact fees. 1083 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,160 >> Um, so in the enterprise funds, as you 1084 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,839 know, enterprise funds are like 1085 00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:58,720 self-supporting businesses. So, when we 1086 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,960 did the downtown main street, we did a 1087 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,520 lot of infrastructure. we did sewer 1088 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,839 improvements, water improvements, all 1089 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:09,520 that. So, this um adjustment is to allow 1090 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,880 us to um transfer those funds back to 1091 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,240 the enterprise fund so they can 1092 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,160 recognize the assets in the enterprise 1093 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,430 funds. 1094 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,520 Um items 9 through 10, as you know, um 1095 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,240 cities are limited to 35% of fund 1096 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,640 balance. And in the budget this year for 1097 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,400 26, we actually budgeted out of the uh 1098 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,440 the sales tax off the energy tax is fund 1099 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,319 24. Um that fund does not have 1100 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:42,880 sufficient funds to transfer excess fund 1101 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,520 balance over to the capital fund. So I'm 1102 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,680 proposing we move that budget adjustment 1103 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,920 back to the general fund. And it I tried 1104 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,079 to illustrate it at the bottom net 1105 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,520 effect. So as I said the initial fund 1106 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,880 was budgeted out of the fund 24 but the 1107 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,000 net effect of adding the two use of fund 1108 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480 reserves will be the same. So it's it's 1109 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800 a net zero. It's just from department to 1110 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,069 department. 1111 00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,960 The fire station funding um last year as 1112 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,680 you know we increased property taxes to 1113 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,480 allow for the debt service on half the 1114 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680 cost of the fire station. Um, we haven't 1115 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,440 bonded yet. So, we have those funds 1116 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,359 sitting in the general fund. I'd like to 1117 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:27,359 move them over to the capital fund, hold 1118 00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:28,960 them in a reserve account until we have 1119 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,160 that debt service come come through. 1120 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,680 >> And Kathy, I want to make a mention on 1121 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,800 this uh item 11. And just reiterate to 1122 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,280 the residents. Here's here's the proof. 1123 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,400 The the property tax increase that we 1124 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,560 approved, that's the money right there 1125 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,160 going straight to the fire station just 1126 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,920 like we promised. It's not being spent 1127 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,119 in other areas. It is. We sold it as as furnishing the debt for the fire 1128 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,280 station and that's exactly what that 1129 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,040 money is earmarked and what it's doing. 1130 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,920 Nothing else. 1131 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,440 >> Yep. 1132 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,280 >> Glad you pointed that out. 1133 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,680 >> So item 12 um this is all the general 1134 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,640 fund um departments. They're in separate 1135 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,079 funds, but at the end of the year we 1136 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,240 roll them up into the general fund. So 1137 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,000 the fund balance of all these little 1138 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,880 funds is essentially the fund balance of 1139 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,240 the general fund. As you know, in the uh 1140 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,480 petite neat, we budgeted for the 1141 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,400 bathroom remodel and did not expend all 1142 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200 those funds. Um Carl thought it would 1143 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,839 pro be prudent to use those funds to 1144 00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:32,480 epoxy the floor of the pool. Some of the 1145 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,400 reasons are that we're kind of competing 1146 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,319 with Spanish Fort. We'd like to keep the 1147 00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:39,200 facility up and keep it nice. This is 1148 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,000 only the current year budget. It doesn't 1149 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,240 affect any future projects in the petite 1150 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,560 need or anything else. And there's no 1151 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,040 other um planned projects in the petite 1152 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,920 neat. So this is just to allow Carl to 1153 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,680 use those funds for that purpose 1154 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,599 in this budget year. Yeah, we have more 1155 00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,200 projects budgeted next year for the 1156 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,920 petite meat. Um and just to let you 1157 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,760 know, we are planning one more open 1158 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,760 budget in June and that's going to true 1159 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,280 up all the funds so that we're in 1160 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,160 compliance with state audit and all that 1161 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,680 kind of good stuff. So, and we may have 1162 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,240 to depending on if all the projects that 1163 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,000 we have budgeted this year get done or 1164 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,240 not, might have to transfer more fund 1165 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,359 balance over to this capital fund. 1166 00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:25,599 That allows the council with the 1167 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,640 guidance of Robert and Dave to um 1168 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,720 allocate on new projects and allows us 1169 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,560 to do new capital projects so it doesn't 1170 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,960 go to waste. 1171 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,319 And that's all I've got. 1172 00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:39,599 >> Okay. Council, any questions? 1173 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:40,319 >> Thanks. 1174 00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:43,119 >> Okay. We'll go ahead uh and if we need 1175 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,200 if it's for some more questions, we can 1176 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,880 do that, too. But I'll accept a motion 1177 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,720 to open the public hearing. 1178 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,160 >> I motion that we open the public 1179 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,200 hearing. 1180 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,240 >> Is there a second? 1181 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,200 >> I second that. 1182 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,079 >> Second. Okay. Roll call vote. 1183 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,640 >> Starting with council Helet? 1184 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,000 >> Yes. 1185 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,960 >> Council Moss, 1186 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,520 >> yes. 1187 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,319 >> Council, 1188 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:02,720 >> yes. 1189 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:03,520 >> Council Smith, 1190 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,000 >> yes. 1191 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,960 >> Okay, 1192 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,119 >> motion carries and uh we'll open up a 1193 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:08,880 public hearing. Step to the mic, please. 1194 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,640 State your name and address and speak 1195 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,240 clearly. 1196 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,400 Let me your comments if you can to about 1197 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,880 3 minutes. Uh let me your comments to 1198 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,720 whether you agree or disagree with we've 1199 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:22,800 just heard from from Kathy our financial 1200 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,640 director. So we'll go ahead and open it 1201 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,750 up. 1202 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,400 Okay. Not seeing anyone here that is 1203 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,920 going to address this. Is there anybody 1204 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,200 online? Okay. I'll accept a motion to 1205 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,400 close the public hearing. 1206 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,839 >> Hey. A motion to close the public 1207 00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:39,440 hearing. I'll second. 1208 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,040 >> Okay. 1209 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,520 Uh, I'll go ahead and just just All in 1210 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,400 favor say I. 1211 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,040 >> I. 1212 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:45,760 >> Yes. 1213 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:52,550 >> Any opposed? 1214 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,280 » Ex mayor call on me. 1215 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,720 >> He must oppose. 1216 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,160 >> Yeah, that's enable. Okay, moving on. 1217 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,520 We'll go ahead and close the public 1218 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,760 hearing. Um, any other discussion? just 1219 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,599 thank you for for keeping track of the 1220 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,119 finances. That's the most important part 1221 00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:13,680 of of our city of of handling the the 1222 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,440 funds of the residents and and again, 1223 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,599 I'm just so excited to see the the 1224 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:21,280 specifically earmarked money that we promised that would go to the 1225 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,280 fire station is is there being held and 1226 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,359 going to work for us in the future once 1227 00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:28,800 we bond for that. 1228 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,400 And I'm excited to see some something 1229 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,319 come in under budget and use those funds 1230 00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:34,400 uh somewhere else like at the pool as 1231 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,960 well. 1232 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,880 That's wonderful. That's awesome. 1233 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,960 >> Yeah, those those improvements at 1234 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,040 Petitney were very badly needed and 1235 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,480 they're they're very nice. 1236 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,000 >> Yeah. 1237 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,160 >> Okay. 1238 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,920 Then I'm ready for a motion on this 1239 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,839 item. 1240 00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:54,240 >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the 1241 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,920 amendments to the fiscal year 2025 2026 1242 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,839 budget that has been just been presented 1243 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:00,480 to us. 1244 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,200 >> I'll second. 1245 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,119 >> Yeah, I have a motion and seconded. The 1246 00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:04,800 roll call vote starting with council 1247 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,839 Smith. Yes. 1248 00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:06,640 >> Council Roelly. 1249 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,280 >> Yes. Council 1250 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:07,760 >> Moss. 1251 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,319 >> Yes. 1252 00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:09,359 >> Council Hullet. 1253 00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:10,559 >> Yes. 1254 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,200 >> Thank you. Motion carries. 1255 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,680 Moving on to number two. Resolution. 1256 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,839 Economic Development Board appointments. 1257 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:24,390 That's up to you, Robert. 1258 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,920 Council member Hillet, would you like to 1259 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,200 introduce these people or do you want me 1260 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,000 to do it? 1261 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,440 >> Go ahead, Robert. 1262 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,520 >> Okay. Great. 1263 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,880 We are so grateful to have um three new 1264 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,839 members uh to be recommended to the 1265 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:40,400 economic development board. Uh first of 1266 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,280 all, uh Lindseay Hughes. Uh she will be 1267 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,839 representing Neibo School District. Uh 1268 00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:47,119 we're so excited to have a 1269 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:48,800 representative from the school district 1270 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,359 join us. Again, their input is very 1271 00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:54,000 important. Uh Joseph Hansen is a 1272 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,359 resident of PAC and has been involved in 1273 00:49:57,359 --> 00:49:58,880 many different things and we're excited 1274 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,599 to have him. And then Sean Pickup uh is 1275 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:06,319 a business owner in PAC Pacado. And uh 1276 00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:09,200 Sean has served uh for quite some time 1277 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,839 on the business retention committee. Uh 1278 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:13,839 been really helpful and don't think 1279 00:50:13,839 --> 00:50:15,040 you're going anywhere from that 1280 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,760 committee. So we're going to keep him on 1281 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,319 there. But we're so excited for these uh 1282 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:22,000 people and grateful for their 1283 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,760 willingness to serve and just recommend 1284 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,839 them to you as the council to be on the 1285 00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:26,640 board. 1286 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,119 >> Okay. Um Sean, you want to stand up? 1287 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:32,720 You're the only one here, I think. 1288 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:35,839 >> And then um yeah, we have them ready to 1289 00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:36,640 accept that. 1290 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,920 >> Okay, 1291 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,160 >> we'll need to approve before we 1292 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,839 >> Yeah, that's we we need to make them 1293 00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:42,960 take action. 1294 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,760 >> Okay, any council discussion? Okay. Uh 1295 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,280 >> thank you everyone for willing us to 1296 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,520 serve on these committees and boards. 1297 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,589 >> So I'll accept a motion on this item. 1298 00:50:57,599 --> 00:50:59,520 I was going to see if Brian wanted to do 1299 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,079 this one, but uh Brian, you want to make 1300 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,040 the motion? 1301 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,640 >> Okay, I'll make a motion that we approve 1302 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,680 the three that we just talked about to 1303 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,559 the economic development board. 1304 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:11,359 >> I'll second. 1305 00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:12,800 >> Okay, we have got a motion been 1306 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,640 seconded. The roll call vote started 1307 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,040 with Council Helet. 1308 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,240 >> Yes. 1309 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,119 >> Council Moss, 1310 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:19,359 >> yes. 1311 00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:20,079 >> Councelor Early, 1312 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:20,400 >> yes. 1313 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,119 >> Council Smith, 1314 00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:21,920 >> yes. 1315 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,559 >> Good motion carries. Are you ready, 1316 00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:58,950 Emily? 1317 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:07,349 Done. Congratulations. 1318 00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:09,359 Okay, moving on to number three. A 1319 00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:11,200 resolution board of adjustment 1320 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,680 appointment and the oath of office. Uh 1321 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,559 council make a recommendation of Rick 1322 00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:22,079 Johnson to be part of the board of uh 1323 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:25,359 adjustments. Any discussion on that 1324 00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:28,079 action? 1325 00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:29,599 Okay, 1326 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,760 then I'm ready for a motion on on this 1327 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,680 item. 1328 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,680 Mayor, I motion that we approve the 1329 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,599 board of adjustment appointment of Rick 1330 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,119 Johnson. 1331 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:39,839 >> A second. 1332 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:41,760 >> Okay. Have a motion seconded. Roll call 1333 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,680 vote starting with council Smith. 1334 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,240 >> Yes. 1335 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:45,440 >> Council Roelly. 1336 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,760 >> Yes. 1337 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,480 >> Council Moss. 1338 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:46,800 >> Yes. 1339 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,839 >> Council Heer. 1340 00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:48,960 >> Yes. 1341 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,960 >> Wonderful. Motion carries. Are you 1342 00:52:50,960 --> 00:53:07,990 ready, Rick? Come on up. 1343 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:36,390 Congratulations. 1344 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,559 Okay, moving on to number four. Another 1345 00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:40,240 resolution, the planning commission 1346 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,040 appointments and oath of office. Uh, 1347 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,960 I'll go ahead and take this one. Uh, 1348 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,960 ladies and gentlemen, we we we had I 1349 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,319 can't can't remember how many we had. 1350 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:51,839 How many do we have? About five or six, 1351 00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:54,400 maybe more than that. 1352 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,160 >> Six or seven applications to be part of 1353 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,160 the planning commission. We had some 1354 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,599 great great uh uh people that that 1355 00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:05,680 wanted to be part of the planning 1356 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,520 commission. The end result uh is that we 1357 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,079 decided that it would be well for us to 1358 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:16,079 maintain the the two that uh were up for 1359 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,640 renewal and so Ryan Frisbee and Perry 1360 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,480 Adams is the those uh that two that have 1361 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,559 been nominated to be again part of the 1362 00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:26,480 planning commission. 1363 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,720 council have any uh discussion about 1364 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:30,559 this particular item? 1365 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,319 >> I'm I'm happy to see that these two fine 1366 00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:34,480 gentlemen decide to to stay on and 1367 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,559 reapply. I think we're in an important 1368 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,319 space on the planning commission and in 1369 00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:40,559 city at the city as we change. So, thank 1370 00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,880 you both for your willingness to to keep 1371 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,800 serving in this capacity. It's such an 1372 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,359 important commission 1373 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,200 >> that ditto. 1374 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,079 So, uh I'll ask for a motion. 1375 00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:56,160 Mayor, I motion that we approve the 1376 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,480 planning commission appointments of Ryan 1377 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,880 Frisbee and Perry Adams. 1378 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,160 >> Okay. Is there a second? 1379 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,960 >> I'll second. 1380 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,240 >> Okay. Motion been made and seconded. Uh 1381 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,760 roll co starting with council Helet. 1382 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,640 >> Council Moss. 1383 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:10,960 >> Yes. 1384 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,839 >> Council Rowley. 1385 00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:12,160 >> Yes. 1386 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,040 >> Council Smith. 1387 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,839 >> Yes. 1388 00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:17,520 >> Wonderful. The motion carries. 1389 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,640 And we'll go ahead and have Emily do her 1390 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,119 thing. Come on up, man. Gentlemen, 1391 00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:29,280 again, appreciate you being willing to be part of planning commission. 1392 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:43,589 You're doing a great job. 1393 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:44,960 Swear that I will support 1394 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:53,910 >> obey and defend the United States 1395 00:55:53,920 --> 00:56:07,670 » state of Utah. 1396 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:26,069 » Congratulations. Thank you. 1397 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:27,839 Okay, moving on to number five. 1398 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:31,040 Resolution intend to submit an opinion 1399 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,680 question to face and residents regarding 1400 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:39,280 the PRC tax park tax and notice to Utah 1401 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,440 County. I don't see Carl here, but 1402 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,200 Brandon, are you going to address us on 1403 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:43,760 it? 1404 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,910 >> I can take it. Okay, 1405 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,440 » because the rumor was Carl was going to 1406 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040 have this presentation with all the 1407 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,000 beautiful things that the park tax had 1408 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,920 purchased and gone towards in the past 1409 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,559 and I was like that that would be great 1410 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:06,720 but looks like he's not here. Um, so the resolutions that are in the packet 1411 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:11,520 are um to renew uh the park tax. every 1412 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,920 10 years it expires and we have to renew 1413 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,400 it and resubmit it to the voters. So the 1414 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,000 first step in that is determining 1415 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,520 whether the city can actually place the 1416 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,960 question on the ballot. So we have to 1417 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,680 send a notice of intent to Utah County 1418 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,000 and once it goes through the Utah County 1419 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,440 Commission saying that they're not going 1420 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,640 to pass a countywide park tax then they 1421 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,079 give us the okay to put it on the 1422 00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,160 ballot. And then the second resolution 1423 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,440 in there is the um question that would 1424 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,440 go on the ballot. Shall Pacin City enact 1425 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,680 a a tax of onetenth of uh a cent on 1426 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,920 sales to go towards the the park tax? So 1427 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,680 the park 1428 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,359 uh parks, arts, recreation, and 1429 00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:53,920 can't remember C, but also known as the 1430 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,280 zap tax, zoo arts and parks. Um uh I 1431 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,680 think it's one of the most um visual 1432 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,599 representations of where a tax money 1433 00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:02,799 goes that we can see it in the 1434 00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:05,760 community. Um, so with your vote on 1435 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,640 those uh on these items tonight, we 1436 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,799 would send uh the resolution to Utah 1437 00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:13,119 County to get their go ahead and then 1438 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:14,480 get their approval for the ballot 1439 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,440 language. So, uh it's actually due June 1440 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,960 30th. We're just getting ahead of the 1441 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,960 curve here in April to be ready in time 1442 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:21,359 for it. 1443 00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:22,960 >> Yeah, I might mention that as you say, 1444 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,760 it's the one of the most visual uh tax 1445 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,160 results that we can we can find. We've 1446 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,079 and then some of the things that uh 1447 00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,160 we've done connect the walking trails 1448 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,960 that go underneath the the highway going 1449 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,160 to Spring Lake cover for playground 1450 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,960 equipment or pickup courts 1451 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,839 >> courts 1452 00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:47,359 >> music for the uh pace and band uh for 1453 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:52,319 the concert concert and on Sundays u so 1454 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,960 there's there's a lot of things that 1455 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,160 it's a very beneficial use of the 1456 00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,200 I I'm a 1457 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,319 >> we've collected over 1458 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:00,799 >> Go ahead. 1459 00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:03,359 >> We've collected over $3 million since 1460 00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:06,160 that been in place for that goes back to 1461 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,920 our community. 1462 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,559 And nice thing is too is that anybody 1463 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:12,160 that shops at Walmart, whether they live 1464 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,319 in Pac or not, that goes into our 1465 00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:17,910 community. 1466 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,960 » With this with the the opinion question, 1467 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,480 I anticipate that'll be some sort of 1468 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,880 survey we send out to the to the 1469 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,720 residents. Is that what that is? 1470 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,240 >> It would go on the ballot for them to 1471 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,319 vote on the election in November. 1472 00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:32,640 >> Okay. Are we going to send any survey? 1473 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,079 Have we talked about that at all? I just 1474 00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:35,839 I really want to make sure we educate 1475 00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:37,839 the residents on this park tax because 1476 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:39,760 it's a wonderful thing. It's not a new 1477 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,000 tax. It's just a portion of the sales 1478 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,000 tax and we we desperately need it to 1479 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000 continue to help quality of life and 1480 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,520 parks and everything else in our city. 1481 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,160 >> Yep. Great great question. Um, we can't 1482 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,839 necessarily have an opinion on whether 1483 00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:54,640 people should do that or not, but Carl 1484 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,480 has prepared a really, really great 1485 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,119 video that goes through and demonstrates 1486 00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:01,920 all of the projects that we've been able 1487 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,319 to do be uh in part because of these 1488 01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:05,760 funds. And I think that will be very 1489 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240 helpful. Uh, if people want to, you 1490 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,040 know, get together and and 1491 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,520 campaign for it, we can provide a lot of 1492 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,599 information about what has been done 1493 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:18,799 with that money. We just can't as a as a 1494 01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:21,119 city influence a vote. Okay. 1495 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:22,319 >> Right. Okay. 1496 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:23,920 >> I can't put that video. Sorry. 1497 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,480 >> No, go ahead. 1498 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,960 >> Oh, we'll put the video on our web page, 1499 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,559 right? And on our Facebook page and 1500 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,160 stuff because it's actually just 1501 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,359 detailing all of the the information and 1502 01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,599 how that money has been expended in our 1503 01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:38,240 community. We totally can do that. 1504 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,079 >> And I'll echo what Ryan said. It's not a 1505 01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:42,960 new tax. It's just the usage of that 1506 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,920 money that's there. And I that's part of 1507 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,559 the checklist is there is a part of that 1508 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,880 the the code uh the state code allows us 1509 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,200 to do is an education 1510 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,680 >> campaign get the word out there what it's for what it's been used for. 1511 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,200 Yeah. So that that that is a component 1512 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,559 of the overall process. 1513 01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:01,839 >> Correct me if I'm wrong. We've used some 1514 01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:05,040 of those uh uh uh the monies from gener 1515 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,359 generated from there to improve the the 1516 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:08,880 park trails, the 1517 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,040 >> the trails, the benches, 1518 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,920 >> remove the asphalt and real nice uh 1519 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,839 cement trails. 1520 01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:16,240 >> Okay. 1521 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,920 >> So, when we did this before when we 1522 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,839 first put it on the ballot, uh we had a group of citizens that got together 1523 01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:26,079 and met once in a while and and really 1524 01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,000 pushed it as group of citizens. So, I 1525 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,960 think we could do that again. 1526 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,309 Let's Let's do that'd be excellent. 1527 01:01:36,319 --> 01:01:38,240 » Okay. Got anything else for us, Brendon? 1528 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:38,799 >> No. 1529 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:41,119 >> Okay. Any any further discussion, 1530 01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:42,720 council? 1531 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,720 >> Okay. I'm ready for a motion. 1532 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,280 >> I'll make a motion that we approve the 1533 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,599 putting the um on the ballot the um the 1534 01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:54,720 park tax opinion and also send it to the 1535 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,640 county, get their approval that we can 1536 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,400 do that. 1537 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,240 >> I'll second. I'll second. 1538 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,799 >> We have a motion been seconded. Uh roll 1539 01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:05,200 coal starting with council Hullet. 1540 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,799 >> Yes. 1541 01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:07,680 >> Council Moss. 1542 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:07,920 >> Yes. 1543 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,040 >> Council Roelly. 1544 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:09,359 >> Yes. 1545 01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:10,480 >> And council Smith. 1546 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:10,960 >> Yes. 1547 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,440 >> Wonderful. Motion carries. Thank you. 1548 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,440 We'll move on to number six. Ordinance 1549 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,920 code amendments to various sections of 1550 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,119 the title 12 subdivision regulations of 1551 01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:22,960 the pace and city code regarding 1552 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,520 residential density. Michael. 1553 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,760 >> Thank you. Mayor and council. Um, this 1554 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,599 presentation is really short because the 1555 01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:33,280 bulk of it is the text and the things 1556 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,119 that you see in your packets. It's going 1557 01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,119 to be a presentation for all five of 1558 01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,920 these upcoming agenda items. They are 1559 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,480 separate agenda items to vote on, but I 1560 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,559 would also uh caution you that if you're 1561 01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,319 voting on one, you should consider them 1562 01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:48,240 as a whole because they all affect each 1563 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,000 other. But let me let me pull that up 1564 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,470 really quickly. 1565 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,160 Um, if if you want to read them all, 1566 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,920 that's fine. there. I'll sh I'll share 1567 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:17,440 them in the presentation too. So, tonight we have title 12 subdivision 1568 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,039 regulations, title 13 zoning, the 1569 01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,440 general plan, the Spring Creek area 1570 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,079 specific plan, and the South Meadows 1571 01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:30,160 area specific plan. And all of these are 1572 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,760 um related to density and how that's 1573 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,240 defined, how it's uh identified on our 1574 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,440 maps, and our plans in our documents. 1575 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,680 Uh city council's role tonight would be 1576 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,839 to make a decision on this whether or 1577 01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:46,559 not to approve it, deny it, table it, uh 1578 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:48,480 approve it with modifications. We're 1579 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,280 open to all of those. Um it did have a 1580 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,119 public hearing at planning commission. 1581 01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:55,760 It was voted unanimously for a positive 1582 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,079 recommendation of approval. I noticed 1583 01:03:58,079 --> 01:03:59,440 when I was putting this presentation 1584 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,359 together, I did not put the planning 1585 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:03,280 commission minutes in the packet, but 1586 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,280 the minutes consist of that last 1587 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,160 paragraph right there on this item. So, 1588 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,520 it's uh some brief comments that the 1589 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,119 commissioners had about this and then 1590 01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:16,480 they voted uh unanimously to approve it. 1591 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,720 and Michael, thank you for including the 1592 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,960 planning commission's uh conversation 1593 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,520 and vote right here in the in the 1594 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:24,640 PowerPoint. Thank you. 1595 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,829 >> Sure. 1596 01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:30,559 » Um I talked about this a little bit. Um 1597 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,480 each of these requests are all related 1598 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,640 to density and how it's defined and 1599 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,039 identified and viewed in these 1600 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,640 documents. 1601 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,640 um 1602 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,039 units per acre, for example, the word 1603 01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:45,280 density, gross density, net density, all 1604 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,160 of that staff looked at to try to create 1605 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,119 a cohesive, clear understanding of how 1606 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:52,880 these would be interpreted in all of 1607 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,520 these documents. 1608 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,559 So, with that, if this council wants to 1609 01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:00,480 look at any particular documents, I can 1610 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,000 close this presentation and pull those 1611 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,119 up. Um I it's kind of up to you how how 1612 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:09,430 you want to proceed at this point. 1613 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,119 Can I ask um 1614 01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,599 this may be a really dumb question 1615 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,599 maybe, but 1616 01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:22,160 from the planning and development, 1617 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,400 do you see this as a good thing because 1618 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,119 it helps clarify 1619 01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:32,079 or what is like the idea behind so many 1620 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:34,880 changes? Um, like for me it was there 1621 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,880 were certain things that I myself was 1622 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,280 I felt like it could have been 1623 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,799 understood 1624 01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:44,480 differently by other people like the way 1625 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,000 that I kept reading it over and over 1626 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,599 again and there was just some things 1627 01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,319 that so that's I'm just curious from 1628 01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,599 like your guys's if if that's allowed or 1629 01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:56,960 >> we have often u conversation with 1630 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,880 property owners, prospective builders, 1631 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,200 developers, that sort of a thing. most 1632 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,079 of the time they want to look at gross 1633 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:07,359 density, meaning all of the entirety of 1634 01:06:07,359 --> 01:06:10,720 the property over what's buildable and 1635 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,799 excluding roads, things like that. And 1636 01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:14,720 so we want to clearly define that 1637 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,920 throughout all of these documents. Um, 1638 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,839 we had our consultant that's working on 1639 01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:23,440 our uh zoning code amendments for us and 1640 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,119 our our revisions of our zoning code 1641 01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:28,079 look at titles 12 and 13 and and provide 1642 01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:32,240 feedback. um in your packets. Um 1643 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,799 there is all of her her edits and 1644 01:06:34,799 --> 01:06:36,640 suggested changes I believe are in 1645 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,559 purple and then staff looked at it again 1646 01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,280 um with our attorney and we kind of 1647 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,280 changed a few minor things here and 1648 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,359 there. But um hopefully that answers 1649 01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:49,359 your question. But the idea is to to 1650 01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:52,559 bring clarity to uh council to uh 1651 01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,400 planning commission to staff and to 1652 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,559 prospective developers. 1653 01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:58,960 And I think the main goal here of of 1654 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,880 specifically the code rewrite, but just 1655 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,839 specifically these codes too, is is to 1656 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:06,880 remove any subjectivity of of 1657 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:11,760 assumptions or or loopholes or there's no more surprises. It's cleancut 1658 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,640 of what the density means, what's there, 1659 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,319 and that way there's no surprises for 1660 01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:17,920 the developer or more importantly for 1661 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,000 the city. And that that's what I saw as 1662 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,760 I read through that. And Michael, can 1663 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,359 you uh can you confirm are we are we 1664 01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:29,359 removing all mentions of or or ideas of 1665 01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:31,440 gross density and moving to net density 1666 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,359 or what did you what you guys 1667 01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:35,839 >> what we're doing is there's she 1668 01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:38,079 recommended striking both gross and net 1669 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,160 density out and creating a definition 1670 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720 titled density. And so that's that new 1671 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,799 language that's in there. And then how 1672 01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:46,559 we are going to calculate density is 1673 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:49,839 that definition not using the others. 1674 01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:53,680 There is also um a definition specific 1675 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,319 in the RMF zone, the multif family zone 1676 01:07:56,319 --> 01:07:58,480 talking about how density is going to be 1677 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,960 addressed for multif family development. 1678 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,119 >> Okay, for a simple mind such as myself, 1679 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:05,200 how are we identifying density now with 1680 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,039 the code changes proposed? So 1681 01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:08,799 essentially anything that's not 1682 01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:11,520 buildable, we want to exclude, but we 1683 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,359 want to reward developers if they're 1684 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:16,239 having open space and park space, such 1685 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,640 like that, but we we don't want them to 1686 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,719 have credit for unbuildable space. We 1687 01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:22,560 don't want them to have credit for their 1688 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,080 roads, that sort of a thing. And so 1689 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,759 that's that's the intent of what we want 1690 01:08:25,759 --> 01:08:28,080 to do. We we want to see that open space 1691 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,319 and and dedicated parks. And so we want 1692 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:32,239 to let them have density for that even 1693 01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:34,159 if they're not building on those 1694 01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:37,040 properties. like no credit for wetlands 1695 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:37,759 that are 1696 01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:38,159 >> correct 1697 01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:40,159 >> just going to be mosquito wetlands. 1698 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:41,199 >> Yeah, correct. 1699 01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:43,759 >> Which which I'm I'm all for uh giving 1700 01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:45,279 them some credit like you said for the 1701 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,199 green space and the parks and stuff, but 1702 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,719 yeah, giving having them the ability to 1703 01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:53,120 call wet space and then skew the whole 1704 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,600 lot sizes and and homes. That was a 1705 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:56,880 heartburn for me. So, I'm glad that 1706 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,679 we're relieving that. And and for 1707 01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:02,239 clarification of the public, council has 1708 01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:04,319 all of this, but we're we're trying to 1709 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:06,960 move from a a units per acre on our maps 1710 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,080 and in our plans to the most appropriate 1711 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,040 zone we feel that plan is trying to 1712 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,159 achieve. And so we try to put a zoning 1713 01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:19,040 designation in our from our zoning code 1714 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,279 in each of those plans where it makes 1715 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,279 sense. 1716 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:24,640 >> Okay? Okay. And so when a developer 1717 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:31,440 comes before us and let's just say they ask for a zone change. Okay. Um 1718 01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:33,440 with with the current code, we can point 1719 01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:40,159 to units per acre uh and and use that as a backs stopper of going one way or 1720 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:43,279 another. If we have specific zones for 1721 01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,440 specific areas, 1722 01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,520 how how can we use that as ammunition to 1723 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,520 either protect or incentivize uh 1724 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,159 residents or builders? 1725 01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:54,640 Well, I think the intent of the the plan 1726 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,120 with these changes would be that that 1727 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,960 would be the understanding that that 1728 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,560 zone would be assigned when a zone 1729 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,280 change were to happen. There's still the 1730 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,280 plan is just that it's a plan. It's a 1731 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,040 guiding document. You can still make a 1732 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,159 different decision, but the idea is it's 1733 01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,880 trying to meet what we originally had in 1734 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,960 there of say four units to the acre. 1735 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,800 We're interpreting that generally as R 1736 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,320 110, so the 10,000 square foot lots. 1737 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,520 >> And so 1738 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,440 >> we just want it to be clear in that 1739 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,920 regard. Uh it gets harder with 1740 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,719 multifamily because how how do you do 1741 01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:35,520 that? They don't actually have a lot and 1742 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,040 so that we still have to have that 1743 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,199 definition of how we're going to define 1744 01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:40,320 density there. 1745 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,719 >> Okay. Very good. Thank Is that why on 1746 01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:45,520 the Spring Creek the residential units 1747 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,120 went to to be determined because prior 1748 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,199 it had 1749 01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:54,000 >> amounts? So I guess like that when I saw 1750 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,080 that that was my only like hesitation of 1751 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,560 like well how many lots now how many 1752 01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,840 homes are going to be in there you know 1753 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:00,960 and so that was 1754 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,080 >> so who determines it. 1755 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:06,800 >> Yeah I didn't like that's where it comes back to the zone 1756 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,000 that is assigned. 1757 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,760 >> Okay. So, if it's zoned R110, then every 1758 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,520 single lot has to be 10,000 square feet unless 1759 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,880 >> there's some development agreement that 1760 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,480 changes that or a master plan or 1761 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:19,920 something that that they can do 1762 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:20,560 something different. 1763 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,000 >> So, it could technically be less than 1764 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,600 what was proposed before because now 1765 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,239 non-usable land would be removed. 1766 01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:29,840 >> it could be. 1767 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,120 >> The Spring Creek plan was very good at 1768 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,400 identifying developable land and so I 1769 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,320 think it's pretty accurate. We just 1770 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,640 wanted to streamline through all of the 1771 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,520 plans and the ordinances the same kind 1772 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,199 of language. And so the Spring Creek 1773 01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,199 didn't have much to actually put into 1774 01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,120 it. 1775 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,199 >> And so Michael, so we're we're changing 1776 01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:52,880 the general plan and then 1777 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,719 subsequentially we're we're changing all 1778 01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:57,040 the specific area plans that it needed 1779 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,320 to be changed with the language. 1780 01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,120 Correct. 1781 01:11:59,120 --> 01:11:59,679 >> Okay. 1782 01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:03,199 >> There is um I want to say it's in the 1783 01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:04,960 South Meadows plan. There's a section 1784 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,600 toward the I think it's the very last 1785 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,520 page in your packet on that South 1786 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,000 Meadows talking about the executive 1787 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,120 style homes and the density such there. 1788 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,880 I don't think anything needs to change 1789 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,120 there. I just was calling it out to you 1790 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,520 because it does say units per acre, but 1791 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,600 then they also talk about a lot size 1792 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,199 there. So, we probably don't need to 1793 01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:26,719 change anything there. I just wanted to 1794 01:12:26,719 --> 01:12:28,159 bring it up so that you can see that 1795 01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:30,000 there and if you felt there was a need, 1796 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,990 we could do that there. 1797 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,600 looked like a lot of work. 1798 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,440 >> It was fun through that. So, thank you. 1799 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:38,960 This is so important we do this though 1800 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,120 and and and remove any assumptions from 1801 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,400 either side. No surprises. 1802 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,199 >> Okay. Any other discussions? 1803 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,360 They're all interconnected. So, uh 1804 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,280 >> you need a separate motion for each. 1805 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,800 >> Yep. So, we'll just go through them and 1806 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,560 then we'll 1807 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,440 >> take turn. 1808 01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,920 >> Okay. I'm ready for unless there's any 1809 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,520 further discussion. I'm ready for a 1810 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,760 motion on this particular item. 1811 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,640 >> Take the first one. 1812 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,520 >> Okay. 1813 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:06,800 >> Turn your mic on and 1814 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,480 >> that we approve the 1815 01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:11,440 >> mic. Mic just turn it on. 1816 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:12,400 >> Sorry. There we go. 1817 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,280 >> I always remember except for just 1818 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,600 >> um Okay, I'll start over. Mayor, I I 1819 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,080 motion that we approve um the code 1820 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,000 amendments to various sections of title 1821 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,920 12 subdivision regulations of the PAC 1822 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,000 and city code regarding residential 1823 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,000 density. I'll second. 1824 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,159 >> Do we have a motion been seconded? Roll 1825 01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:32,800 call vote starting with Lacy. 1826 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,440 >> Yes. 1827 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:34,159 >> Brian, 1828 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:35,360 >> yes. And 1829 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,000 >> yes. 1830 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,560 >> And 1831 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:38,960 >> yes. 1832 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,320 >> Brian. 1833 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,280 >> The guy online. 1834 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,360 >> Yeah. Brian, did you say yes? 1835 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,400 >> Yes, I did. 1836 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,400 >> Okay. Motion carries. Thank you. 1837 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,239 >> Mayor, I make a motion that we approve 1838 01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:49,760 the code amendments to various sections 1839 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,320 of title 13 zoning of the PAC city code 1840 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,040 regarding residential density. 1841 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,080 >> I'll second that one. 1842 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,640 >> Okay. We have a motion been seconded. 1843 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,640 Roll call vote starting with Brian. 1844 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,000 >> Yes. 1845 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:02,560 >> And 1846 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,440 >> yes. 1847 01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:04,080 >> Brian. 1848 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,520 >> Yes. 1849 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,440 >> Wonderful. Motion carries. Going on 1850 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,120 number eight. 1851 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,800 >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the 1852 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,560 general plan amendment to various 1853 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,719 sections sections of the general plan 1854 01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:17,120 regarding residential density. 1855 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,000 >> I'll second. 1856 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,120 >> Okay. Motion and a second. Roll call 1857 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,760 vote starting with council Smith. 1858 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,400 >> Yes. 1859 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:25,920 >> Council Roelly. Yes. 1860 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,640 >> Council Moss. 1861 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:26,960 >> Yes. 1862 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:27,920 >> Council Heer. 1863 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,120 >> Yes. 1864 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,080 >> Wonderful. Motion carries. Moving on to 1865 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,159 number nine. 1866 01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:35,040 >> I'll take this one. 1867 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,000 >> Okay. 1868 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,920 >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the 1869 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,520 general plan amendment to the Spring 1870 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,760 Creek area specific plan for various 1871 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,640 sections regarding density. 1872 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,560 >> I second. 1873 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,640 >> Okay. We have a motion been seconded. 1874 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,320 Roll call vote starting with council. 1875 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,719 >> Yes. 1876 01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:55,760 What was that? 1877 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,040 >> Yes. 1878 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:57,920 >> Council Moss. 1879 01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,239 >> Yes. 1880 01:14:58,239 --> 01:14:58,960 >> Council Rowling. 1881 01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,280 >> Yes. 1882 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,159 >> Council Smith. 1883 01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:00,480 >> Yes. 1884 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:02,800 >> Motion carries. Thank you. Number 10. 1885 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,199 >> I'll motion that we approve the general 1886 01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:07,760 plan amendment to the South Meadows area 1887 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,080 specific plan for various sections 1888 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,440 regarding density. 1889 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:12,560 >> I'll second. 1890 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,560 >> Okay. I have a motion been seconded. 1891 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,360 Roll call vote. Starting with Council 1892 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:17,840 Smith. 1893 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:18,320 >> Yes. 1894 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,199 >> Council Roelly. 1895 01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:19,520 >> Yes. 1896 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,560 >> Council Moss. 1897 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,080 >> Yes. Council Helet. 1898 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,040 >> Yeah. 1899 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,480 >> Okay. Motion carries. More. Going on to 1900 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:30,320 number 11. Ordinance amending title six 1901 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,600 and in acting a new chapter prohibiting 1902 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,880 virtual currency machines and providing 1903 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,040 for enforcement and penalties. Chief and 1904 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,480 Brandon, I think I think this is a this 1905 01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,960 is a very critical addition that we need 1906 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:56,790 to use. 1907 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,640 about 1908 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,199 turn your mic on. Chief, 1909 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:02,159 >> join the club. 1910 01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:02,880 >> I don't have a guy. 1911 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,640 >> Hello. Hello. 1912 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,040 >> Um, recently the legislator made some 1913 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,800 changes to the the cryptocurrency 1914 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,960 machines that we see at our our uh some 1915 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,040 of our convenience stores or some of the 1916 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,800 other location uh retail uh locations in 1917 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:21,920 town. Um, our crypto machines um here 1918 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:28,239 and other places in the community are used about 98% of the time for scams 1919 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:31,520 uh which technically usually involve our 1920 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,239 elderly citizens or some other type 1921 01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:37,920 incapacitation. Um so we we're following 1922 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,520 suit with some of the other communities. 1923 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,120 Leighton passed the first one a couple 1924 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,880 of weeks ago. Uh they forward that 1925 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,320 information to us. They done a lot of 1926 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,960 research on it. um spoke with the 1927 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,040 sponsor of the legislature as well as uh 1928 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,600 the attorney general's office who who 1929 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,000 gave him the thumbs up with with banning 1930 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,600 some of these machines and and the main 1931 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,760 reason is just fraud. A few years ago, 1932 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,080 we went out to all of our locations and 1933 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,480 put up signs saying, "Hey, you know, 1934 01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:06,800 before you make a transaction, make sure it's not someone 1935 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,400 calling you to post bail from your 1936 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,880 friend in Guatemala or you know, the 1937 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,480 government's after you got to post this 1938 01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:15,360 or your computer's broken. um you got to 1939 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,840 pay for customer service. There's a 1940 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,440 whole bunch of scams. We went back and 1941 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:20,800 just done a real quick search in ours 1942 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,440 the last two years. We've had $100,000 1943 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:25,120 in scams come out of our uh 1944 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,640 cryptocurrency. 1945 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,560 Um obviously we're a lot less populated 1946 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,640 than the the Davis County area, but they had about 11 million in a 5year 1947 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,320 period. Um so it is becoming well it is 1948 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,040 it has been you know for that there's 1949 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,960 not a lot of legitimate purposes to have 1950 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,840 the machine anyway. Um the legislators 1951 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,440 did dial it down to where you could only 1952 01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:48,400 do $2,000 transactions at the most, but 1953 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,719 obviously they've had them 30 40 50 1954 01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:55,760 $60,000. Um it's it's it's perpetuating 1955 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,440 criminal activity is really what it is. 1956 01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,440 So we we felt the need to follow suit. 1957 01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:01,440 Um other cities such as Worm, West 1958 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:02,880 Jordan, South Jordan are in the in the 1959 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,520 process of of you know researching it as 1960 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,320 well. I met with Brandon. Brandon had uh 1961 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,960 looked over it and uh we feel like we're 1962 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,480 in a good spot with it with this 1963 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,320 ordinance. So, this ordinance will give 1964 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,880 them 60 days to remove the machines. And 1965 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,480 in fact, talking to Chief Swanson and 1966 01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,560 Elon, their business owners, they had 1967 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,239 like 16 of them and they all thanked him 1968 01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:23,760 for creating this ordinance so they 1969 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,520 didn't have to have those machines 1970 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,719 anymore. They could get out of their 1971 01:18:26,719 --> 01:18:28,960 leasing situation with them. So, 1972 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,960 >> I think it's critical that we help 1973 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,360 protect people from their own emotions 1974 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,280 sometimes. 1975 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,360 Yeah, we we've had, you know, we had one 1976 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,719 I won't name names, but we had one that 1977 01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:40,400 was $30,000. 1978 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:40,719 >> Yeah. 1979 01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:41,920 >> How many do we have here? 1980 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,880 >> We have six. 1981 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,159 >> I didn't even know we had them. 1982 01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,400 >> Yeah. Well, I thought we had three 1983 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,239 >> and and Detective Mark Hartson went out 1984 01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:50,239 and and actually physically done a count 1985 01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:52,640 for us the other day and and look also 1986 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,400 looked at some of the cases and said we 1987 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,480 were about $100,000 in the last two 1988 01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,159 years and then we have six of them. I 1989 01:18:58,159 --> 01:18:59,679 thought we had three, but 1990 01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:02,320 >> I was I was wrong. Sometimes people are 1991 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,560 victims two and three times. 1992 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,480 >> Well, yeah. I mean, you get someone that 1993 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,199 gets scared into into doing this, you 1994 01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:10,800 know, they do it, you know, and and they 1995 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:11,840 stay on the phone with them. They'll 1996 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,040 stay on the phone, 1997 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,360 >> you know, go to your local store, you 1998 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,880 know, they'll they'll search up a crypto 1999 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,159 station and go go withdraw $15,000 from 2000 01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:22,480 your bank account, take it to the crypto 2001 01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:25,360 kiosk, and they give them a a wallet 2002 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,199 address is what they call it, and 2003 01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:28,480 they'll put their money in the machine. 2004 01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:30,880 and they'll dial up a a wallet address, 2005 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,040 hit send, kind of like a reverse ATM 2006 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,280 machine, and it goes, who knows where it 2007 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,520 goes, and it's very hard to get it back. 2008 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,159 Our special agent in charge of the FBI 2009 01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:42,320 here said that sometimes they're able to 2010 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,480 get about 30% of the money back, but 2011 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,480 it's it's pretty hard, but it's a 2012 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:48,080 billions and billions of dollars that 2013 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,600 goes through a year. So, 2014 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,679 >> I'm I'm glad to see us considering a 2015 01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:53,920 outright ban on these machines. They do 2016 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,000 they they serve no purpose, 2017 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,440 >> right? Yeah. I mean, if you want to 2018 01:19:57,440 --> 01:19:58,560 trade crypto, you can do it on your 2019 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,000 phone. You can do it on your computer. 2020 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,520 There's a lot easier ways than dropping 2021 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,040 cash into it. It's it's 2022 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:03,440 >> Yeah. 2023 01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,280 >> You know, anyway. So, 2024 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,199 >> okay, council, unless there's other 2025 01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:09,920 discussion to be had, which I doubt, 2026 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,280 >> I'm ready for a motion. 2027 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,360 >> Mayor, I'll motion that we approve the 2028 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,960 amending title six and enacting a new 2029 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,040 chapter prohibiting virtual currency 2030 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,800 machines and providing for enforcement 2031 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,000 and penalties. 2032 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,960 >> I'll second. 2033 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,880 >> Hey, we have a motion been seconded. 2034 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,120 Roll call vote starting with council 2035 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,080 Helet. 2036 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:28,880 >> Yes. 2037 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,239 >> Council Moss, 2038 01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:30,560 >> yes. 2039 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,440 >> Council Roelly, 2040 01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:31,760 >> yes. 2041 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:32,560 >> Council Smith, 2042 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,040 >> yes. 2043 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,960 >> Okay, motion carries. Thank you. 2044 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,480 >> Just one more thing. We'll draft up a 2045 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:38,239 letter to send to our business owners so 2046 01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:39,679 they know that this ordinance is effect 2047 01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:41,040 so it doesn't take them by surprise as 2048 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:41,920 well. So 2049 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,600 >> good. I'll have 60 days, you said, 2050 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,640 chief. Okay. 2051 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:45,600 >> Thanks, Chief. 2052 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,400 >> Thank you. Okay. F. And that's for 2053 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,000 adjournment. I'll accept a motion to 2054 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:50,560 adjurnn. 2055 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,159 >> So moved. 2056 01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:52,880 >> Second. 2057 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,159 >> Okay. All in favor say I. 2058 01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:54,640 >> I. Hi. 2059 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,440 >> Hi. 2060 01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:00,480 >> That was a lot quicker than I thought.