[0:04] in progress.
[0:05] >> Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it looks
[0:06] like it's six o'clock, so we may as well
[0:08] get started with the city PAC city
[0:10] council meeting for August 5th. And I
[0:13] just mentioned it was six o'clock. So,
[0:16] we'll start this meeting with prayer and
[0:18] council Rolley will do that for us.
[0:22] Our dear kind, loving father in heaven,
[0:24] father, we're so grateful for this day.
[0:26] As we pause in prayer, we're grateful to
[0:28] live in such a wonderful city and state
[0:31] and country. We're thankful for the
[0:33] people that live in PAC and make it so
[0:35] great. We're thankful for our first
[0:36] responders and for all of the the
[0:39] strength and preservation and safety
[0:42] they give us. Father, we do humbly ask
[0:44] at this time if thou will bless us with
[0:46] cooler temperatures and with rainfall in
[0:48] the coming days. Please fill our
[0:50] reservoirs. Father, please be with us
[0:52] tonight. Help us to be dignified and to
[0:55] make good decisions concerning the
[0:57] city's future. We love thee and we pray
[0:59] for these things in the name of thy
[1:00] beloved son Jesus Christ. Amen.
[1:03] >> Thank you Ryan. Council Moss and Moss
[1:06] will lead us in the pledge.
[1:08] >> Please stand
[1:10] up for me. I pledge algiance to the flag
[1:14] of the United States of America and to
[1:17] the republic for which it stands, one
[1:20] nation under God, indivisible, with
[1:24] liberty and justice for all.
[1:26] >> Thanks, An. Ladies and gentlemen, uh
[1:28] just a side note, many times I call on
[1:31] the city council to do do these things.
[1:33] If there's anyone that's in the general
[1:34] public that would love to uh take uh
[1:37] part in our meeting by doing the pledge
[1:39] or the the the uh uh prayer, we'd love
[1:42] to I'd love to entertain those
[1:44] volunteers, too.
[1:47] Okay, moving on to seek the consent
[1:50] agenda. Number one, the approval of the
[1:52] July 15th, 2026 council minutes.
[1:56] approval of the July 17th, 2026 city
[2:00] council work session meeting minutes and
[2:04] then the resolution update to employee
[2:07] policy regarding generative artificial
[2:10] intelligence AI for short.
[2:14] Uh council members, if there's any
[2:16] discussion, I'm more than happy to have
[2:18] that. If not, we'll I'm looking for a
[2:20] motion.
[2:21] >> I did want to make a mention on line
[2:23] item three. I'm glad to see that we're
[2:24] adopting uh guidelines regarding
[2:27] artificial intelligence in the workforce
[2:28] here at Pacin City. And I do want to I I
[2:31] like the way that this was worded. I I
[2:33] want to encourage everyone to follow
[2:34] that policy and always double check the
[2:36] work and never use the never lose the
[2:40] human element uh as we progress with
[2:42] this this AI.
[2:45] >> Okay. Any other comments, concerns?
[2:47] Okay.
[2:49] >> Great.
[2:50] >> Very great policy.
[2:51] >> Yep. Okay.
[2:53] >> Start.
[2:54] >> Yep. Okay. Is there a motion?
[2:57] >> Mayor, I motion that we approve the
[2:58] consent agenda.
[2:59] >> A second.
[3:01] >> Okay. We have a motion been seconded.
[3:03] Starting with the uh robo. Starting with
[3:06] council provos guard.
[3:07] >> Yes.
[3:07] >> Council Moss.
[3:08] >> Yes.
[3:09] >> Rley.
[3:09] >> Yes.
[3:10] >> Council Smith.
[3:11] >> Yes.
[3:11] >> Thank you. Motion carries.
[3:16] Okay. Um moving on to D. Petitions. Yard
[3:20] of the month. Uh yard of the month. I
[3:22] don't think we have an improved one. So,
[3:24] we'll turn some time over to council.
[3:27] >> Well, this is a month coming. We uh went
[3:30] for a great great tour of the community
[3:34] uh in the end of June
[3:37] uh and we uh selected a yard of the
[3:39] month and was unable to make contact.
[3:42] They were out of town and uh made
[3:44] contact with them a couple days after
[3:46] the fact. And so we we just moved them
[3:49] to this month and presented last
[3:51] month's. And so I'd like to present the
[3:53] yard of the month to Todd and Dory
[3:55] Hollesman. If they'd like to come up, uh
[3:59] they have a very beautiful yard out of
[4:01] Arrow Park Circle.
[4:03] They spend
[4:11] $100.
[4:24] You guys want to stand
[4:33] up?
[4:36] >> Okay.
[4:54] Did you get
[4:57] >> Yes. Thank you for
[4:59] being
[5:04] » We are having fun on the
[5:06] beautifification committee and this
[5:08] Saturday morning if any of the council
[5:10] would like to participate with us, we
[5:12] have a service project that we're going
[5:14] to clean up a really bad corner uh that
[5:18] the that the PL the beautifification
[5:19] committee identified and as one of our
[5:22] projects that's on the list that hasn't
[5:23] been chosen yet. And so we felt like we
[5:26] ought to put our money where our mouth
[5:28] is and go do a project. And so Saturday
[5:30] morning at 7, if anybody's interested,
[5:33] come join us.
[5:33] >> Did you text the the details?
[5:35] >> I'll text the details in the
[5:37] >> What time?
[5:38] >> 7 a.m.
[5:40] >> I know. We want that early.
[5:43] >> We're We're thinking an hour, hour and a
[5:45] half tops. Uh we'll be
[5:47] >> That's what they all say.
[5:50] >> We did, didn't we, Robert Dave?
[5:52] Committed. committed to an hour, hour
[5:54] and a half tops. All right.
[5:57] >> Yep.
[5:59] >> Or salmon.
[6:01] >> Yeah. Could be salmon.
[6:04] >> Okay. Anything further? Nope. Let me let
[6:08] me do something before we move on any
[6:09] further. I'd like to excuse council
[6:12] Brian
[6:14] from tonight's meeting. Okay. Uh moving
[6:19] on to number two, the public forum.
[6:20] Anyone can speak. Uh, please pay
[6:23] attention to a timeline of roughly 3
[6:24] minutes and let us know who you are and
[6:27] uh, where you live. Okay, we'll go and
[6:30] open the public. So, I figured you were
[6:31] going to jump up. Yes, I did.
[6:37] » Yes.
[6:41] » Oh, just kidding. Wendy Osborne with
[6:44] Tabith's Way local food pantry. That's
[6:45] loud.
[6:46] >> Hey, Robert, could we scoot the entire
[6:48] podium forward so our speaker is not
[6:50] behind the flag? So Lacy can see who is
[6:52] >> I think she she's fine with that.
[6:55] >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much.
[6:57] >> All right. Um mayor and council members
[7:01] of PAC city, um on behalf of Tabitha's
[7:03] Way and Donations of Feed, u we would
[7:05] like to respectfully request permission
[7:08] to relocate our clothing donation bins.
[7:10] Um we would like to propose moving them
[7:13] to the side of the building nearest to
[7:14] the police department. Um to accommodate
[7:16] the move, we are proposing that we
[7:19] extend the sidewalk to prevent any
[7:21] prevent taking up any parking spots. Tap
[7:24] of this way and donations of feed would
[7:26] assume all the cost to extend the
[7:28] sidewalk um to the new location. This
[7:30] project we would come at no cost to the
[7:32] city. Our goal is to address the ongoing
[7:35] challenges at the current location.
[7:37] Although the bends are intended only for
[7:39] clothing and shoes, they have become a
[7:40] frequent target for dumping, illegal
[7:44] dumping after hours. uh furniture,
[7:46] broken appliances, household items. As
[7:48] you can see today, if you drove up,
[7:49] there is now a smoker out there. We
[7:51] picked up the bins today and now there's
[7:53] a smoker out there. Um large amounts of
[7:55] trash have routinely been left outside
[7:57] of the bins, creating an unsightly
[7:59] appearance at the entrance to the city
[8:01] hall. Um this reflects poorly on both
[8:03] the city and our organizations.
[8:05] Tabitha's way and donations to feed have
[8:07] assumed all the cost associated with
[8:09] cleaning up the illegal dumps and in
[8:10] many cases our trucks have to first fill
[8:13] up with fill up all the trash to remove
[8:15] the furniture and garbage before they
[8:16] can even access the bins. Uh this
[8:19] requires um them to make additional
[8:21] trips making it significantly increasing
[8:23] our um operation costs exi
[8:25] significantly. We have experienced
[8:27] repeated thefts from the bins as well
[8:30] further impacting our ability to serve
[8:32] the community. Relocating the bins
[8:34] adjacent to the police department would
[8:35] provide a strong deterrent to illegal
[8:37] dumping dumping and theft while allowing
[8:40] this valuable community this valuable
[8:42] community resource to remain accessible.
[8:44] These two donation bins generate funding
[8:46] that provides approximately just these
[8:48] two bins 20,000 meals each year. Um uh
[8:53] making them making them an important
[8:55] asset to our community. We believe this
[8:56] solution benefits everyone. It improves
[8:59] the appearance of the city property,
[9:01] reduces unlawful activity, lowers
[9:03] cleanup costs, and preserves an
[9:04] important resource of support for
[9:06] families facing food insecurity. We
[9:08] thank you for your consideration. We
[9:10] appreciate your part partnership and
[9:12] welcome the opportunity to discuss this
[9:13] proposal further.
[9:15] >> Sounds good to me.
[9:16] >> Wendy and I have we went round and round
[9:18] on this and we we just want to try and
[9:20] find a place that the that be good for
[9:23] the police department and also for the
[9:25] facility. We'll just have to take a look
[9:27] and see where we're
[9:28] >> a great organization and thank you and I
[9:30] >> thank you.
[9:31] >> We can accommodate that, can't we, Dave?
[9:34] >> Yeah, we need to look at I think we've
[9:35] looked at it before.
[9:38] >> We've we've looked at a number of times.
[9:40] >> I I agree. I think we ought to do what
[9:43] we can to make that work.
[9:44] >> Okay.
[9:45] >> I I do want to thank Tabitha's way. You
[9:46] guys are wonderful organization, great
[9:48] community partner, helps so many. And I
[9:50] also want to thank your workers. I mean,
[9:52] it for how much that gets furniture and
[9:54] washers and drives everything. You guys
[9:55] clean it up amazingly fast.
[9:57] >> Oh, good. We try to do our best.
[9:58] >> That's using too much manpower to do
[10:00] that. And that is not the pace in
[10:02] landfill, despite what a lot of people
[10:03] think.
[10:04] >> So, let's let's put it close to police
[10:06] station. That sounds good.
[10:07] >> Yeah. Well, if you look at the police
[10:09] station, if you're looking at it
[10:10] straight on, if you look towards the
[10:11] right, there's a of course we understand
[10:13] that there's parking lots and things
[10:15] like that that your parking stalls that
[10:17] you have minimum space for, and we don't
[10:19] want to take up any more of your
[10:20] parking. We thought maybe extending that
[10:22] sidewalk to a little bit further this
[10:25] way. So if you're looking at the police
[10:26] department on the right side
[10:28] >> to the west. Yeah.
[10:29] >> Uh yeah. And so if we extended it just
[10:30] one more set out, we could put the bins
[10:33] there and it wouldn't take up parking
[10:36] and also maybe would stop this nonsense
[10:38] was our proposal. But anything whatever
[10:40] you feel like would work. But we're and
[10:42] we're willing to assume those costs. But
[10:44] >> um yeah, we just want to see that
[10:46] nonsense stop.
[10:48] >> Perfect.
[10:48] >> I think it's a great idea. Okay. Um,
[10:50] what would the next steps be to follow
[10:52] up with that? Do we just
[10:53] >> We'll just get with staff and the police
[10:55] department and see if we can find a
[10:57] appropriate place.
[10:58] >> Okay. Thank you.
[11:00] >> Yeah. My only wonder is if with the the limited parking there. I don't
[11:04] know. Maybe maybe there's a more
[11:05] advantageous place, but maybe that's the
[11:06] best place. Brad, I'll leave that up to
[11:08] you. But okay. How embarrassing that'll
[11:11] be though to come out of the police
[11:12] station and see a bunch of furniture
[11:14] there every morning, huh?
[11:16] >> Yeah. Well, that that's what Wendy would
[11:19] like to avoid and hopefully that'll be
[11:21] the case.
[11:25] Okay. Anyone like else like to come up
[11:27] and address this in the public forum?
[11:30] Not seeing any anybody online.
[11:33] Okay. Not seeing anyone. We'll go ahead
[11:36] and close the public forum. Move on to
[11:38] staff reports.
[11:42] Any Okay, Janine.
[11:49] mayor and council. Sorry, my voice is
[11:52] really bad. So, anyway, I apologize
[11:55] though I am still a little nervous. I'm
[11:57] not as nerd as what I sound like I am.
[12:00] Anyway, so um Council Member Roelly was asking me
[12:05] and I was thinking about what you said.
[12:08] So, we were talking about the parade. He
[12:10] was asking when the parade was going to
[12:11] start and I talked to my parade staff
[12:15] and sometimes we're not on the same
[12:17] page. So I went out and called her. So
[12:20] even still her and I need to go and
[12:22] physically like point and look. So um he
[12:26] was requesting just seeing if we could
[12:28] start the parade behind that little red
[12:31] barn. Right now I can't think of the
[12:33] family's name. Yes. Yes. So with that
[12:36] being said, we still have to do a lot of
[12:38] staging in front of those houses because
[12:41] that's where the new ins and outs are to
[12:44] the high school. So your um bands, your
[12:48] horses, all that is still so staging the
[12:52] it won't be directly in front of their
[12:55] house on the highway going north, but it
[12:59] still will be across the street
[13:02] basically. So it mean they'll still have
[13:04] the parade.
[13:06] It's still going to be a staging area
[13:08] even though it's still I was telling her
[13:11] it I'm asking if it's in front of their
[13:13] house and she's like no. And I'm like
[13:15] but it's across the street, right? Yes.
[13:17] I'm like okay it's still front of their
[13:19] house anyway. But we've measured that
[13:22] and for our shuttle to be able to make
[13:24] it back and forth and drop off because
[13:27] we're going to keep everything on the
[13:28] west side still in front of the high
[13:30] school going all the way down Spring
[13:32] Lake. And so our shuttles can be on the
[13:34] east side. That's where they drop off
[13:37] the kids and they have to have that road
[13:39] to go back and forth. So I know those
[13:42] three homes, four homes. Anyway, I did
[13:45] put notes on their doors last year
[13:47] letting them know and it's still going
[13:50] to be pretty much the same. It's not
[13:52] going to be right in front of their
[13:53] houses, but it's still going to be in
[13:55] front of cuz the high school is where we
[13:58] stage. So, anyway, um let's say just
[14:02] letting you know, we are preparing for
[14:04] salmon supper this week. I don't know if
[14:06] you've driven by the park. Um things
[14:09] happen. I mean, we are just so
[14:11] fortunate. This is just
[14:15] We're awesome basically. I mean, I hate
[14:18] everyone know, but we have an awesome
[14:21] city and the volunteers, everything how
[14:25] this comes together. So, I don't know if
[14:28] you've driven by the park, but it's just
[14:30] like clockwork. Kent's team comes in
[14:32] first with the sand. Then we bring the
[14:35] first load of wood. That happens on
[14:36] Monday. And Tuesday it just knocks out.
[14:39] the tent comes in and we're just like
[14:41] bang bang bang bang. So, we're so
[14:43] excited. Every year we're just it's
[14:47] we're not comfortable until it's about
[14:49] 8:00 pm on Friday, but we're hoping
[14:52] we're ready to go. We're for another
[14:54] great successful salmon supper. Um
[14:57] tomorrow I'll meet with the cheerleaders
[14:59] and we're going to wrap potatoes and
[15:01] that's when the t the um where you guys
[15:04] will be cutting fish that goes up
[15:06] tomorrow too. So, um, tables and chairs,
[15:09] the first load's already been delivered.
[15:11] We have two more to come in tonight and
[15:13] tomorrow. So, it's exciting. It's
[15:16] magical if you ask me how it all comes
[15:19] together. So, um, football team will be
[15:21] there on Friday to set up all tables and
[15:24] chairs. Um, we are concerned about, um,
[15:28] the heat. I mean, we're concerned about
[15:30] that every year, but especially this
[15:32] year. Um, so we're pushing most of our
[15:36] tables south into the shade. We'll still
[15:40] keep a tent, but that one area kind of
[15:43] by where we serve um will be sparse
[15:46] because it's in the sun the whole time.
[15:48] So basically, we're just going to go
[15:50] south and it's going to be quite lovely.
[15:53] It'll remind me of CO when we really
[15:56] spread it out. And I actually really
[15:58] like that and I think the people did
[15:59] too. So, we should be in the shape most
[16:02] of the time for everyone. So, um let's
[16:05] see what else. Um Oh, I need your help.
[16:10] So, I need each of you to give me two
[16:13] hours on Labor Day.
[16:16] Are you able to do that?
[16:19] Well, that is our main event that
[16:21] everyone should be to because it's our
[16:23] city event. So, that's September 7th. So
[16:28] yeah, every employee actually has to
[16:30] work on Labor Day. So it's our city
[16:33] event. So Onion Days, what's that? Yes,
[16:36] you are. So there you go. So Onion Days,
[16:40] I need you from 12 to 6 and you guys can
[16:42] figure out what time you can give me.
[16:45] I'd like each of you to get me at least
[16:46] two hours. Um it's a fun tent. I want
[16:50] you to run. It's the photo booth and
[16:53] it's the 250. It'll all be decorated. So
[16:56] basically people can they'll go inside
[16:59] of it. There's banners and balloons and
[17:01] they'll be able to put on glasses and
[17:03] hats and stuff. So it's a photo booth to
[17:07] remember the 250th year. So it's kind of
[17:10] a fun little thing we're going to do. So
[17:12] I thought it'd be a great opportunity
[17:14] for you guys to visit with the public
[17:16] and have them go in and you know you
[17:19] could take their picture and stuff. So
[17:21] I'm hoping that's a a win-win. So, I'll
[17:23] let you guys figure out your time and
[17:26] let me know so I can write it down. So,
[17:29] okay, that's everything. Any questions?
[17:32] >> No question on my part, but just a
[17:34] statement. You know, there's been
[17:35] concern about PAC city residents being
[17:37] able to participate in the Simon Supper,
[17:39] and I wrote in my mayor's message this for this month, over 2,000 PAC
[17:45] residents were able to get tickets. We made time for just four PAC
[17:49] residents. Yes. We've done that for the
[17:51] last three years.
[17:52] >> Yes. Correct.
[17:52] >> Okay. Just wanted to make that
[17:54] statement.
[17:55] >> Yep. They get to buy after Memorial Day,
[17:58] they have Tuesday, Wednesday, and
[17:59] Thursday to buy. So, yeah, those and
[18:03] they sell quick, too. So, in June, the
[18:07] 1st of June, that's the the first Monday
[18:09] in June, they open up for the public
[18:11] after that. And they sold out in seven
[18:14] minutes.
[18:16] So, I know I'm as popular as Taylor
[18:18] Swift, so just it's okay.
[18:22] So,
[18:22] >> thanks for all you do.
[18:24] >> All right. Thank you. That didn't get a
[18:26] very big cloud, by the way. Just saying.
[18:28] >> My trailer's still available, Janine. My
[18:31] trailer's still available.
[18:34] And I don't think it needs to be
[18:35] insulated to keep anything warm right
[18:37] now. I have it on good notice. It's
[18:40] going to be about 103 Friday.
[18:43] Oh, you want it cold.
[18:44] >> It needs I've been trying to
[18:46] >> I've been trying to find a trailer. I'm
[18:49] not done yet, but I'm continuing to try.
[18:55] » Oh, I thought you wanted to keep it
[18:56] warm.
[19:02] » We don't need to bake on site.
[19:04] >> Chief,
[19:06] >> I just wanted to come and say thanks for
[19:08] uh to our sponsors who sponsored our
[19:10] event last night at the park, our
[19:11] national night out, and those of you
[19:12] that came. Uh Smith's food donated the
[19:15] hot dogs. Well, most of them, Robert
[19:17] donated some of them. uh the uh hot dog
[19:20] buns and and hot dogs and some of the
[19:22] fixings uh come from Smith's
[19:24] Marketplace. So, we thank them. And uh
[19:26] Terrisco Tacos, Ricardo donated all the
[19:29] tacos. Uh Mountain America Credit Union
[19:32] donated drinks and some of their staff
[19:34] to help. So, I just wanted to thank them
[19:35] for for their stuff. We ran out and
[19:38] Robert bailed me out. We went through
[19:41] 165 hot dogs and I said, "Robert, we're
[19:44] out." He said, "I'll
[19:44] >> 20 minutes."
[19:45] >> In 20 minutes, yes. It was a large crowd
[19:48] and Robert gracefully hopped in his car
[19:50] and did put the Smiths and bought more.
[19:53] So anyway, we we served about a thousand
[19:56] tacos and 264 hot dogs. So So it was
[20:00] fun, but I just wanted to publicly thank
[20:02] our sponsors. So
[20:06] >> thank you, Chief.
[20:10] » Seriously, that was such a fun event. It
[20:12] was great. Um, mayor and council, I just
[20:15] wanted to get up uh and publicly thank
[20:17] uh Jason in our IT department for his
[20:20] help with the AI policy. Uh, that was
[20:22] really, really great and he led that
[20:25] effort and we really appreciate him
[20:26] doing that. Uh, I also, um, just wanted
[20:30] to give a little bit of an update. Uh,
[20:33] there were some questions in the
[20:34] community about data centers. Uh, this
[20:37] week I posted a little thing about PACE
[20:40] and cities. um stance on those and
[20:44] things like that, but we're always
[20:45] learning more information. And uh last
[20:48] night I attended Sean let me know that
[20:52] Spanish Fork was talking about uh a data
[20:56] center and things like that. So I went
[20:57] to their council meeting last night. Let
[21:00] me pause and just say as I was leaving
[21:03] at 10:30
[21:05] last night and they were going into
[21:08] close session, I was very grateful for
[21:11] each of you. So, thank you. Um,
[21:17] but anyway, uh, there is a company
[21:20] called Valition. Uh, they made a
[21:23] presentation last night at Spanish Fork
[21:25] City Council. Um I would encourage
[21:28] everybody to watch that presentation.
[21:30] It's available on their YouTube page. Um
[21:33] it was informative. Uh technology is is
[21:38] ever advancing and so I think it's
[21:40] important for all of us to be aware of
[21:42] that advancing technology and how it
[21:44] changes. Um
[21:47] again it was very educational to me. Uh
[21:49] lots of things to study. Uh but one
[21:53] thing that I thought would be important
[21:54] for all of you, all of our residents,
[21:57] everybody, uh the Valition company will
[22:00] be holding a 3-day openhouse. Uh that's
[22:05] going to be next week. Uh where you can
[22:09] go, they'll answer questions. They'll
[22:11] have additional presentation. That's
[22:13] going to be at the Spanish Fork Library
[22:15] building uh in the Heritage Room. Uh
[22:19] it's Thursday, August 13th. uh from 6:00
[22:22] to 8:30 p.m. And then Friday, August
[22:26] 14th from 2 to 4:30 p.m. Uh but all of
[22:30] you should be at Sam's Supper. Uh and
[22:32] then Saturday, August 15th from 10:00
[22:35] a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Uh again,
[22:39] justformational
[22:40] if anybody wants to attend, learn more
[22:42] about that. I know that it's something
[22:44] that constantly comes up. One reason
[22:46] that I was there last night is because
[22:48] uh it's a different city, but we're all
[22:49] connected with our power. And so I
[22:51] wanted to understand that. Um especially
[22:54] because they made the statement that
[22:56] this will be an completely off-grid
[22:58] facility. So that that's interesting
[23:01] too. So I would just encourage anybody
[23:03] that has questions about that, reach out
[23:06] uh attend one of those and watch the
[23:10] presentation that they made. It was
[23:11] really really helpful. So thank you.
[23:15] Robert.
[23:18] Any other staff?
[23:21] Okay. Oh, come on up, Sean.
[23:27] I haven't done this in a long time. Um,
[23:29] we've finished the plant almost. So,
[23:32] we're we're running start running August
[23:35] 1st on Saturday and running for real.
[23:40] got through all that troubleshooting and
[23:41] stuff for two months and so we still got
[23:44] a little bit to polish up. We don't want
[23:46] to have an open house yet, but it's
[23:48] pretty cool. Two and a half years work.
[23:51] So, um, and
[23:55] the other thing, yeah, be aware that
[23:57] they they use natural gas with even
[23:59] though they aren't hooked to the grid,
[24:01] electrical grid, they are hooked to your
[24:03] natural gas grid. So, there's a lot of
[24:06] demand there. So, just be aware affects
[24:09] us. But anyway,
[24:13] >> thank you, Sh.
[24:16] >> Mayor, uh, Donna has her hand raised.
[24:18] >> Donna.
[24:19] >> Yeah.
[24:19] >> Hi, guys. Um, I just wanted to get on
[24:22] and tell you that we had a friends and
[24:25] family night on Monday night that um,
[24:27] Molly ran and we had over 400 people
[24:29] there. They had snow cones and the
[24:32] police. We appreciate them shutting off
[24:34] um Main Street and we appreciate the
[24:36] businesses that that let us have that.
[24:39] was really fun and we had a really
[24:41] great turnout and a lot of fun. I just
[24:43] wanted you guys to know that that was
[24:44] kind of one of the end of our summer
[24:46] reading parties and they're doing a teen
[24:48] and tween night at the pool. Thanks
[24:50] Carl. And um that's on the 14th and then
[24:55] we kind of wrap up our summer reading.
[24:57] So it's been a really we had over a
[24:59] thousand people participate in the
[25:00] summer reading program. It's been a
[25:02] great summer. So, we're just getting
[25:04] ready to shift into fall. So, thanks for
[25:06] all your support so we can do so many
[25:08] great fun things.
[25:11] >> Donna, thank you for all you do. So, we
[25:13] appreciate very much.
[25:17] » Okay. Any any other staff?
[25:21] Not seeing any. We will transition to
[25:23] council report starting with council
[25:25] Smith.
[25:27] >> Okay. Um,
[25:30] I get to talk about a lot. I'm going to
[25:32] talk about a lot of our amazing
[25:34] resources that we have. Um, in the last
[25:37] couple weeks and my family and I, we've
[25:39] utilized a lot of our greatness of PAC.
[25:43] Um, we did go to Spring Lake and went
[25:45] fishing the other day. And I was curious
[25:47] though how often we're checking the
[25:50] garbages there. There were overflowing
[25:53] and beer cans everywhere. Okay.
[25:58] So, if we go out there, should we
[26:00] just contact someone? Like it was Okay.
[26:07] >> Okay.
[26:10] >> I know. I know. And so,
[26:13] >> people just take their stuff over their
[26:16] >> No. Yeah. it. Well, and then also I was
[26:19] wondering if we could if it was maybe in
[26:21] the budget um to restain the picnic
[26:24] tables out there
[26:27] if those are ours because if you you
[26:29] kind of get slivers
[26:32] >> we're trying to switch over to
[26:37] the budget each year we put
[26:44] » I just didn't know exactly. I think a
[26:46] lot of people also like a lot of people
[26:47] don't understand that PAC owns that and
[26:51] um anyway but and the fish cops were out
[26:54] while we were there. So we didn't catch
[26:56] anything but we fed a lot of oats to the
[26:59] ducks. So yeah. Um and then we I just
[27:02] want to say I love our pool. We were at
[27:04] the pool last week and just such a great
[27:08] pool. Um, and then we spent a whole week
[27:11] up at PAC Lakes and that was amazing.
[27:14] And I got a better tan than ever. And then the last shout out is um the
[27:20] national night out last night. Um
[27:24] it's it's my little boy's favorite night
[27:27] of the year. Uh we went a little early
[27:29] cuz he had his first soccer game and he
[27:32] got to meet both the canines and he just
[27:36] thought it was the coolest thing in the
[27:37] world. And then we finished his game and
[27:38] he said, "Do you think they're still
[27:40] there?" And I said, "Well, it was over
[27:42] 15 minutes ago, but we can go see." And
[27:44] sure enough, and we closed it down. We
[27:46] left after the police left. So, um, it's
[27:50] the most amazing thing ever. And I, you
[27:52] know, the even the firefighters and uh,
[27:57] but the only thing is I guess next year
[27:58] you guys need to order more badges,
[28:00] Brad, cuz he was pretty upset that
[28:04] I know you guys. It was great. So,
[28:06] anyway, way to go. That's all.
[28:10] » Yeah, Chief Bishop, thank you for that
[28:12] wonderful night last night. National
[28:13] Night Out was a huge success. I loved it
[28:15] being in the park. Thought it was a good
[28:16] turnout and we even got to see the Life
[28:18] Flight helicopter land and take off and
[28:20] the fire trucks and most importantly the
[28:22] police department and and thank you for
[28:24] putting that on. That was a good
[28:26] success. Good community policing night.
[28:28] I did want to uh Jill, as we continue to
[28:31] do the code rewrite, I think it'd be
[28:34] wise if we did put in there something
[28:36] about data centers and zoning that puts
[28:38] us in the driver's seat. I know I've
[28:39] asked about that before, but just adding
[28:41] an extra layer of scrutiny upon data
[28:44] centers that that provides us additional
[28:47] uh timeline and additional approval at
[28:49] the legislative level uh before they can
[28:52] just be allowed to come in in a certain
[28:53] zone. So, I'd like to see that in our in
[28:55] our ordinances moving forward just to
[28:57] protect us. There's a lot of dis uh
[28:59] misinformation about data centers on
[29:01] both sides. I think it's important. We
[29:03] owe it to the residents and and the data
[29:05] center companies. We need to slow down
[29:07] the the timeline for them and really
[29:09] allow uh time for adequate public
[29:11] comment and then also allow extra
[29:14] approval level at the city council and
[29:16] mayor level. I think
[29:18] that's all I have.
[29:21] >> Hey, Council Moss.
[29:23] Um, I don't have much to say, but I
[29:25] agree with Ryan on the data center
[29:27] stuff. Um, and just want to thank all
[29:29] our staff and employees
[29:32] u for all that they do. And I really
[29:34] don't have anything else today. Thanks.
[29:37] >> Hey, Bob.
[29:39] >> I would do I would do the same shout out
[29:42] to the police last night. I was not able
[29:45] to be there, but everybody I talked to
[29:47] today at Ace Hardware had a ball. It was
[29:51] great. So, thank you. We've just got so
[29:53] many cute things that Pacin City does
[29:56] that just makes us home, makes us
[29:58] hometown. Uh,
[30:02] shout out to the I think the water
[30:04] department that's been cutting the
[30:06] valves in and putting the new water shut
[30:09] offs down first and second south and
[30:12] through that area. They are are very
[30:16] prompt got in, dug big holes in the
[30:17] street. Tonight they're all filled back
[30:20] up and ready for asphalt and they've
[30:22] just
[30:22] >> right in front of my house.
[30:23] >> Yeah. Is there one in front of your
[30:25] house too?
[30:25] >> Yeah, just to the
[30:26] >> Yeah, I think they just tell them how
[30:29] much appreciate that and leave holes
[30:31] open and it just looks cleaned up and
[30:33] nice. Uh and then I did do my due
[30:36] diligence. Uh I know we need to have
[30:38] this conversation. I'll make it as quick
[30:40] as I can concerning kilts for the
[30:43] Scottish festival.
[30:45] Uh what precipitated this is Doug Welton
[30:49] started uh the conversation that we've
[30:52] had for several years about Pacin City
[30:54] having their own tartan uh their own
[30:57] color their own kilts and this dates
[31:00] clear back to the early late 80s I
[31:03] believe mayor when we used to have the spring kaye when it was here at the
[31:09] banquet hall and we would eat haggus and
[31:12] kind of get us everybody excited for the Scottish festival that was to come
[31:18] and the tartans and things that were
[31:20] presented at that time and the
[31:21] conversation has continued. So, uh, Doug
[31:25] done some research straight to Scotland
[31:28] on getting tartan. The material that he
[31:30] was quoted was quite expensive, about
[31:33] $70 a yard. Um, and and a kilt with the
[31:38] pleat and the correct way to build a
[31:40] kilt takes about nine yards. So you can
[31:43] do the math. And then to have them a
[31:47] proper kilt has to it cannot have a
[31:49] machine a sewing machine put to it. It
[31:53] has to be all handstitched.
[31:55] And that takes uh about 42 hours for a
[32:00] seamstress. And there's only a handful
[32:02] in the state of Utah that make them. And
[32:06] we happen to have one right here in PAC.
[32:09] And so I contacted her. She's reaching
[32:12] out to several of the clans in Salt Lake
[32:15] and that that have ladies that make
[32:18] them. She said to plan on it would be
[32:20] roughly around $400 a kilt for the the
[32:24] seamstress part of it.
[32:27] So if I was to give you my best. So then
[32:30] I reached out to Bill Morris of Morris
[32:33] Quilting and he is very well steeped in tartan material and what have you and
[32:39] he's going to present us three or four
[32:40] options. Uh if we have our own made,
[32:45] Doug was right. It's going to be about
[32:46] $60 a yard uh to have one that we can
[32:50] claim as Pacin City uh that nobody else
[32:53] can duplicate if we buy
[32:57] uh material. I don't want this to be
[32:59] lengthy, but I'm trying to give you all
[33:00] the information I can. If we buy
[33:02] material that has been created that is
[33:05] unassigned, in other words,
[33:07] manufacturers over there make tartan
[33:09] material waiting for somebody to buy it
[33:12] and sometimes it goes for quite a while
[33:14] uh without a clan that accepts it and
[33:17] says that's ours. And so we can get that
[33:20] at a little bit of a discounted price
[33:22] and it becomes PAC city uh tartan
[33:26] without having to give the commission to
[33:28] have it made and pay that upfront cost.
[33:31] Uh we're still looking at and so I think
[33:34] the the best thing that I could present
[33:36] to you is it's going to be about $1,000
[33:38] a kilt for the material and and the
[33:40] seamstress to put them together. And
[33:44] we've discussed uh and counseledled wide
[33:47] open for discussion. And I've just kind
[33:49] of taken the lead on this. We're we're
[33:52] thinking of 15 kilts that we would want.
[33:55] We would need the six for the council.
[33:58] We would need three for the royalty,
[34:00] three to four for the police officers.
[34:02] That would be uh security during that period of time. And then that would
[34:09] leave two for the for the administration
[34:12] or staff. That would be the 15th.
[34:17] So, I put the information to you when I
[34:19] get uh exact price quotes back on tartan
[34:23] material. I'll come back with you at
[34:25] that, but that's a discussion that we
[34:27] can have at a later date. Uh if we
[34:30] started now, we would be pushing to have
[34:33] them ready for next year
[34:36] knowing that. So, she said if I can get
[34:38] five women to do three, we could have
[34:41] them done in May. If I got three women
[34:44] to do five, we would be really hurrying
[34:47] to to get them ready for July.
[34:52] So, that's the information I have on the
[34:53] tartan and the the kilts. Thank you for
[34:56] the information. It's something we can
[34:57] need to work on.
[35:00] Okay,
[35:02] we'll go ahead and move on to uh
[35:06] e action items. This one will will be
[35:08] mine. uh appointment of planning
[35:11] commissioner uh Rick Johnson. That would
[35:13] be my nomination. And give you a little
[35:15] background. Ryan and I both sat on the
[35:18] uh
[35:20] interview board for planning commission.
[35:23] Uh Rick was very very good. We were
[35:26] hoping we could have a place for him and
[35:28] as it turns out we do. Now he was uh put
[35:31] on the uh board of review. Uh so we'll
[35:34] have to replace him on the board of
[35:36] review. But uh I would submit to the the
[35:40] council that uh we accept that they
[35:42] accept Rick Johnson as appointment of
[35:45] planning commissioner. Uh he was not
[35:48] able to be here tonight. So we'll
[35:49] arrange if in fact the the council
[35:52] adopts this to have his him swore in the
[35:56] office a little later. Mayor, any
[35:59] >> discussions? Is that the Rick that lives
[36:01] just right across the street?
[36:02] >> Yes. Okay.
[36:03] Yeah, there you go. Right across the
[36:05] street. He's he's been well known. He
[36:07] worked at Mountain View Hospital for
[36:09] decades and very capable individual. I
[36:12] was very impressed. I believe not
[36:14] speaking for you, but I believe you were
[36:16] as well. So,
[36:17] >> absolutely.
[36:18] >> So, I would submit his name, Rick
[36:19] Johnson.
[36:20] >> Mayor, I make the motion that we approve
[36:22] the appointment of planning commissioner
[36:24] Rick Johnson to the PAC city planning
[36:25] commission.
[36:26] >> I'll second that.
[36:27] >> Okay, we have a motion been seconded.
[36:30] Broka vote starting with council
[36:31] provoscard. Yes, council.
[36:34] >> Yes. Council
[36:34] >> Roley.
[36:35] >> Yes.
[36:36] >> Thank you. Motion carries. Appreciate
[36:38] it.
[36:40] >> Okay. Moving on to number two.
[36:43] Resolution
[36:44] uh approving the amend uh memorandum of
[36:48] understanding between PAC and Sanquin
[36:50] Chamber of Commerce and and PC city.
[36:55] >> Hey, mayor council. We uh been meeting
[36:57] with the chamber. Um, we believe we've
[37:01] come up with a a a better contract than
[37:03] we've had. One of the things that we did here is u split out. There's
[37:08] a separate contract now with Santa Quinn
[37:10] City in their chamber and there's a
[37:11] separate one with paste in the chamber.
[37:13] Uh, couple of the highlights that we did
[37:17] u that we added into this. Um, they
[37:20] they've started a a uh oh, what's the
[37:24] name of it?
[37:26] U farmers farmers market. uh over in
[37:29] Santa Quinn and and so we're going to
[37:31] start that here as well and uh it's been
[37:35] successful there. It took a few years to
[37:36] get going. But uh that's one of the
[37:39] things we wanted to have them support a
[37:42] hometown Pac hometown market um to help
[37:46] uh
[37:48] help with those activities in in PAC as
[37:51] well. Um there are several things they
[37:53] need to report on. we they give welcome
[37:56] bags for the new people that move in. So
[37:58] there's um the the the intent of the
[38:02] agreement and it's taken a long time and
[38:04] it's it's been this way for a long time
[38:06] is they want to become self-sufficient
[38:07] but but they do utilize our our contract
[38:11] money to help uh fund the the chamber as
[38:15] well as the other members. Um
[38:19] they have raised the the the fee for
[38:22] Santa Quinn because they're they're
[38:23] growing. Uh it's it's more in line with
[38:26] what it's smaller than ours, but it's closer
[38:30] >> not 5050 still as far as the split
[38:34] between us and Sanquin the cost.
[38:37] >> No, before we would pay 12,000 annually
[38:41] they would pay six. So, it's and now
[38:43] they're up to about 9 8,500
[38:46] uh based on population and and we wanted
[38:48] to make sure they were we also have a
[38:51] shop local campaign that we want them to
[38:53] push to help uh help the local
[38:56] businesses here. So, uh I think it's a I
[38:59] think it's a better contract than we've
[39:00] had and we feel good about it. We wanted
[39:02] to present to the council and uh we'd
[39:05] ask that you uh consider adopting that.
[39:08] >> Um I had a couple questions.
[39:10] >> Yeah. Um, in the in it in section 4, it
[39:14] mentioned partnership fee and membership
[39:17] fee. Are they the same thing or are they
[39:20] separate? Cuz if they were the same,
[39:21] it's just confusing to have two
[39:23] different names. It was section four.
[39:27] Yeah. Um, one, three, and four. I think
[39:31] se like section one and then Yeah, I
[39:35] think it's one, three, and four. So it
[39:37] says like both partnership and
[39:39] membership fee.
[39:40] >> Uh it's supposed to be the same thing.
[39:42] So
[39:42] >> okay,
[39:43] >> if in a motion you you directed us to
[39:46] make this should be the same. They they do in the hometown market.
[39:50] >> Uh they may ask us to do some other
[39:52] advertising and stuff like they San
[39:54] Quinn has to they step up more than what
[39:55] that
[39:56] >> okay
[39:56] >> fee is to help. Uh and so there there
[39:59] may be that but yeah it should be the
[40:00] same.
[40:01] >> Okay. And then in section four um one I
[40:05] or one anyway I think we've forgotten S.
[40:09] I know it sounds silly but since it's
[40:11] going to be an actual document I just
[40:13] thought that because it says it says in
[40:15] there the city agree instead of the city
[40:17] agrees.
[40:18] >> Oh yeah I can see it.
[40:19] >> Yeah. And then
[40:22] >> well so it just so everything else says
[40:24] the city agrees
[40:27] but no it's just supposed to be city
[40:28] because it's just ours. And so and then
[40:32] um I think in it it states that if they cancel they refund us but if we
[40:40] cancel it doesn't say that we get a
[40:43] refund. I just was curious.
[40:45] >> I think if it's canceled there's a pro
[40:48] there.
[40:48] >> Okay. I think like I guess I was just
[40:50] making sure that it's equal for both
[40:51] ways. So that was all. But other than
[40:54] that I thought it was great and they do
[40:56] great for us. I mean, I don't foresee us
[40:59] cancelling, but I just to protect us as
[41:02] well.
[41:04] >> Any other discussion, council?
[41:07] Okay, I'm ready for uh Do we need a
[41:10] motion here, Dave?
[41:12] >> Yes.
[41:13] >> Resol.
[41:13] >> There's a resolution. Mayor, I I motion
[41:16] that we approve the memorandum of
[41:18] understanding between the PAC and
[41:19] Sanquin Chamber of Commerce and Pacin
[41:21] City with the aforementioned issues
[41:25] discussed by Council Smith.
[41:29] >> Is there a second? Okay, we have a
[41:31] motion been seconded. Roll call vote
[41:34] starting with council Smith.
[41:35] >> Yes.
[41:35] >> Council Roelly,
[41:36] >> yes.
[41:37] >> Council Nos,
[41:38] >> yes.
[41:38] >> Council Povskart,
[41:39] >> yes.
[41:39] >> Okay, motion carries. Thank you.
[41:42] >> Moving on to F. Apologize council res.
[41:45] I'm going to briefly excuse myself.
[41:49] » Okay,
[41:51] we'll go into a work session. We'll stay
[41:54] right here. Anders, would you introduce
[41:57] Chris to us?
[42:06] » Good evening, uh, council members and,
[42:08] um, we also have some members of our
[42:10] planning commission here as well. Um so
[42:15] uh this item is not an action item. Um
[42:18] we're just giving a presentation on our
[42:21] progress with the PAC and Parkway um
[42:23] small area plan. So there isn't any
[42:25] proposed motion for the item. But um
[42:28] with the coming of the um PAC Parkway
[42:32] interchange um the the reason for this
[42:36] plan was to kind of be proactive in in
[42:38] planning for um anticipated growth in
[42:41] that area. Um and so this this plan was put together um to kind of take
[42:48] advantage of some opportunities with
[42:50] that. Um there's a about a over a
[42:54] thousand acres um of area in this in
[42:57] this planning area. Um mostly vacant
[42:59] property and owned by a handful of
[43:01] property owners. And so there's there's
[43:04] a great opportunity there for um for the
[43:07] city to to plan for the future,
[43:11] something that will have a a pretty big
[43:12] impact on the future of our city. Um and
[43:16] so the the idea with this plan is it's
[43:18] would be adopted as an amendment to the
[43:20] general plan. So providing kind of
[43:22] guidance and and direction kind of
[43:25] setting priorities and goals for um the
[43:28] area for land use and transportation and
[43:31] infrastructure needs and um open space
[43:33] and trails and parks. Um and so the the
[43:37] process that's gone into to creating
[43:40] this plan so far um we've worked with uh
[43:43] Chris Hup with Somos to um put this plan
[43:47] together. Uh the process has included
[43:49] multiple um cheretses and work sessions
[43:52] with the city council and the planning
[43:54] commission as well um to kind of get us
[43:56] to this point. It kind of started with
[43:59] um some ideas and concepts and over time
[44:01] those have been refined to to where
[44:03] we're at today.
[44:04] um and and we feel like the plan is is
[44:07] at the point where it's ready for
[44:09] adoption into the general plan. And so
[44:12] before we kind of go through that formal
[44:14] process of um having that starts with a public hearing with the planning
[44:20] commission um to to propose adoption to
[44:23] the plan. We wanted to just give this
[44:25] presentation to kind of introduce the final plan and and kind of summarize
[44:30] the content some of the content that's
[44:32] in that final document.
[44:34] Um
[44:36] and
[44:37] um with that, I just wanted to make sure
[44:40] to uh invite any member of the public,
[44:44] the planning commission, city council,
[44:46] um as we anticipate that we'll we'll be
[44:49] um releasing the the plan to the public,
[44:52] and then sending that to each of you to
[44:54] review. As you're reviewing that, and
[44:56] you have any questions, please come to
[44:58] us and and feel free to ask us any
[45:00] questions you have. feel free to come in
[45:02] to our offices, email, call us, and
[45:05] we're more than happy to spend as much
[45:06] time as as you'd like to kind of go over
[45:08] the details of dig into the details of
[45:11] the plan um and and how we anticipate um
[45:16] implementing the the plan in the near
[45:17] future here as we as we expect um kind
[45:21] of the first stages of development
[45:23] requests for this area. So, with that,
[45:25] I'll kind of give the podium over to to
[45:28] Chris Hub um for this presentation.
[45:41] Okay. So, we've chatted a few times um
[45:45] from our previous discussion that we
[45:48] had. We we went heavily over the the
[45:50] process that we've taken the vision that
[45:53] was established out of this. I won't
[45:55] touch as much on that today. we've gone
[45:57] over it a few times and we've been
[46:00] meeting together fairly regularly to
[46:03] bring us all along in this process. And
[46:05] so with that, this is as he was just
[46:08] mentioning a little bit of the
[46:10] background um some of the chapters that
[46:12] come out of this plan. If you have
[46:14] questions, feel free to to ask. Uh I
[46:17] don't I don't mind being interrupted if you have something pressing that you
[46:21] want to ask. That said, as we all know,
[46:25] as we've been going through this,
[46:26] talking a little bit on on that vision,
[46:29] this is approximately a,046 acres,
[46:33] fairly large undeveloped land between
[46:36] I-15 and 198
[46:39] between the the city boundary and some
[46:41] of the existing development on the east
[46:43] side and and
[46:45] the downtown and uh
[46:49] core of the city. So as we've gone
[46:51] through this process,
[46:53] one of the one of the things that we
[46:55] first looked at was the general plan to
[46:57] understand what's the projection here.
[46:59] What's what's happening? And there are
[47:02] some pretty substantial numbers in that
[47:05] 38,000
[47:07] people as far as growth is concerned.
[47:09] That's a that's a big chunk.
[47:13] Obviously, this area and the station
[47:15] area on the other side of I-15 is
[47:17] intended to take a significant portion
[47:19] of that, if not the m vast majority of
[47:21] that. That said, 23,000 job creation
[47:25] over 30 years. This this area won't take
[47:29] the brunt of that uh necessarily. It
[47:31] will take a significant portion of that.
[47:34] But we took all those things into
[47:36] consideration. How do we actually help
[47:38] maintain and manage that growth that is
[47:41] anticipated to happen from that general
[47:42] plan in a way that does not negatively
[47:46] impact the city, its current residents,
[47:49] and the the levels of service that that
[47:52] we offer here, the quality of life. We
[47:55] want to enhance that and and expand it
[47:57] and and maintain, if not elevate that as
[48:01] we continue to work through these
[48:02] things. So with that said,
[48:06] the one one thing that I do want to
[48:09] mention out of this is there has been
[48:11] the threat of the 181 acres of
[48:15] commercial land in this. Is that
[48:17] sufficient? Is that too much? We wanted
[48:20] to
[48:22] dig into the numbers a little bit and I'll do that on a future slide, but
[48:25] just to touch base here, we're
[48:27] anticipating approximately 155,500
[48:32] residents in this thousand acre area.
[48:35] That's if you're doing numbers, we have
[48:39] approximately 3.6 residents. And you can
[48:42] do math from there and say, "Okay, we're
[48:46] typical buildout as as to what the rest
[48:48] of PAC is." It's a little bit less than
[48:50] some of the more concentrated areas and
[48:53] we're in intensifying the amount of open
[48:56] space that we want to integrate through
[48:58] this as we've discussed with the vision.
[49:00] So with that said, just we'll dig into
[49:02] that number in a little bit.
[49:05] How do we get here? Well, you you've
[49:07] been involved in most of that process.
[49:09] So, uh, it has been a little while since
[49:12] we've talked through some of these
[49:14] things, but we started out with existing
[49:15] conditions and stakeholder interviews
[49:17] where we met with, um,
[49:20] believe it was around two and a half
[49:23] dozen individuals, uh, property owners,
[49:26] council, planning commission, other
[49:28] individuals just to get sort of a sense
[49:30] of
[49:32] what is the vision here? What are we
[49:33] trying to accomplish with this area?
[49:35] What's the purpose of this?
[49:38] and how can it elevate and accentuate
[49:41] the city. So, we got that background. We
[49:44] established the understanding of
[49:48] um what's happening in the downtown,
[49:50] what they're planning and the station
[49:52] area, what Salem is looking to and how
[49:56] do we capture this with the the updated
[49:58] U dot road coming through this this
[50:00] property. Then we jumped into concept
[50:03] development with you all. We went
[50:05] through that established concepts.
[50:07] Obviously, some council individuals were
[50:10] uh wanting their concept to take
[50:12] precedent over others and and the good
[50:14] thing is all three groups had that sort
[50:17] of idea because of the passion you have
[50:20] for your city, which is great. And we've
[50:22] incorporated those pieces as we've
[50:24] continued to refine that concept. Um, we
[50:27] work through that with the council, with
[50:29] the planning commission and staff to
[50:30] sharpen those land uses, refine those
[50:33] and and we'll touch on that in in slides
[50:35] to come as well. And then we created
[50:38] this document that supports that vision,
[50:40] supports the concept, and supports that
[50:43] growth and
[50:46] promise that the city has for its
[50:47] residents.
[50:50] Five of the top goals that came from
[50:52] this visioning and priorities uh
[50:55] strategy as we've gone through this
[50:56] process was first to establish a
[50:58] distinctive destination um quality
[51:01] commercial corridor specifically along
[51:04] the PAC Parkway that's that's being
[51:06] introduced here. Regional commercial up
[51:08] against I-15 and neighborhood commercial
[51:10] against SR 198.
[51:13] The
[51:15] general feel was we have that adventure
[51:18] theme here. How can we integrate that?
[51:21] We don't want strip mall. We want
[51:22] something that's cohesive, that's nice,
[51:24] that elevates that commercial, that adds
[51:27] a little bit of experience there and and
[51:30] creates a a place.
[51:32] That was the number one thing. The
[51:34] second is diverse market responsive
[51:36] residential
[51:38] homes. And those are detached product.
[51:41] Uh a fairly wide range of detached
[51:44] product and some attached product as
[51:46] well. The intent of this area is not to
[51:49] be not to to accommodate the moderate
[51:53] income housing. It's not to accommodate
[51:55] the state's need or or desires that
[51:59] they've been pushing forward. This area
[52:01] is is lower intensity. It's meant as a
[52:04] place to
[52:07] experience the open space, to experience
[52:09] the adventure, to experience the
[52:11] commercial and and have all these things
[52:12] integrated and blended together in a way
[52:14] that creates a a great place that again
[52:20] builds on on the the legacy the city has
[52:23] had or continues to have. The third
[52:26] piece was build that connected
[52:27] multimotal trail network. And you'll see
[52:29] that as we go through some of these
[52:31] plans.
[52:32] We wanted that to to come to every
[52:36] possible
[52:38] node that we could get it to. Blend it
[52:42] through the trails, blend it through the
[52:44] wetlands, blend it through the open
[52:45] space, and make that backbone that each
[52:48] resident can actually feed to and and
[52:51] again supports existing trails within
[52:53] the city significantly wide path so that
[52:56] you can jog, bike, run, whatever it may
[52:59] be.
[53:01] open those opportunities for residents
[53:03] to have those recreation opportunities
[53:06] enhanced and and developed. In addition
[53:09] to that, we wanted to, as we sort of
[53:12] already mentioned already, establish a
[53:14] regionally significant open space,
[53:18] a a regional park
[53:21] established somewhere in this location.
[53:22] We don't show exactly where that can
[53:25] happen because there's a lot of
[53:26] opportunity and we don't want to tie it
[53:29] in to a specific parcel and then they
[53:32] raise your price. That's not at all what
[53:34] we want to do. We want to be
[53:35] opportunistic with that and make sure
[53:36] that whatever that regional park is, it
[53:39] makes sense for the city and that
[53:41] development group and elevates the city
[53:45] in addition to that and and heightens
[53:47] that opportunity for the residents. And
[53:50] then the last piece is that home to
[53:51] adventure as I've I've been addressing
[53:55] that is a significant identity with PAC
[53:57] and that was one of the first things
[53:59] that we picked up on and wanted to
[54:01] establish as part of that vision from
[54:03] the planning commission and and council
[54:05] that we were talking through. There's a
[54:07] lot of great things here. How do we tie
[54:09] that adventure? How do we tie that
[54:11] history together here?
[54:13] That said, we we jumped in from all that
[54:16] to this land use framework and you'll
[54:18] see several categories. In our last
[54:19] meeting, we talked about differentiating
[54:22] the detached and attached residential so
[54:24] that we can give gradients, greater
[54:28] gradients to how that actually feels,
[54:30] where those uh intensities fall. And
[54:35] this was the the plan that we worked
[54:37] through to establish that greater uh
[54:40] detail of of the land uses in the plan.
[54:43] It also associates for example you'll
[54:45] see the traditional detached that one
[54:48] specifically has zones of fix to it. So
[54:51] you can understand here's my range and
[54:53] the reason we do a range is because
[54:57] no one ever can anticipate a a 2020
[55:00] happening again. We never know what's
[55:02] going to happen. And so we want to give
[55:03] you the a greater amount of flexibility
[55:06] to make real time decisions when
[55:08] somebody comes in with a plan saying
[55:10] this is what we want to accomplish. You
[55:12] have opportunity to say well if you base
[55:15] it off of the status quo this is the
[55:18] zone that probably is best fit for you.
[55:21] And we have supportive criteria and
[55:23] content in the document as well. And
[55:26] same with the rest of those as well. Uh
[55:28] we've also differentiated the the
[55:30] neighborhood attached and regional
[55:32] attached. Regional being a little bit
[55:35] more intense around the the regional
[55:37] core and lesser intensity down on the
[55:40] south side around 198 with the least
[55:43] densities in the middle of this
[55:44] community significantly less than um
[55:49] surrounding areas.
[55:51] We also differentiated between the
[55:53] regional commercial up against I-15 and
[55:56] a neighborhood node which is supportive
[55:58] of
[56:00] grosser and and typical services whereas
[56:03] the other one would be more of a
[56:04] regional draw. It is close to a 50/50
[56:09] split between that commercial breakdown.
[56:10] Again going back to that 181 it's almost
[56:13] a 5050 split. There is a little bit more
[56:16] weight on the regional commercial and I
[56:17] know that's a big play as we were
[56:19] working on the downtown
[56:22] core of that. There is the existing
[56:24] Parish RV and we wanted to
[56:28] expand that area so that that regional
[56:30] draw is connected and helps actually
[56:34] draw people to it. With that being said,
[56:38] again, the anticipation for this east
[56:41] side from the general plan was 38,000
[56:43] residents. If you look at the larger
[56:45] area, the
[56:47] essentially large swath of land from
[56:51] Benjamin um continuing down the PAC
[56:54] Parkway,
[56:56] there are lots of individuals that could
[57:00] potentially congregate at this regional
[57:03] draw. And that's why our number is 181.
[57:07] As we looked at that regional draw and
[57:09] the support of nature that this
[57:11] commercial area could maintain and and help, that's the number that we felt
[57:17] fairly confident. It is conservative
[57:20] just to make sure that we can build that
[57:22] and have it vibrant. Um we don't want to
[57:25] overdo commercial because when you
[57:26] overdo commercial, it's just vacant and
[57:28] that does no good for anyone. So, we
[57:30] want to make sure that it is vibrant and
[57:32] that it is attractive.
[57:35] As we continue to go through this, we we
[57:37] talked a little bit about that spectrum
[57:39] of housing as far as detached the
[57:41] traditional homes, 6 to 10,000 square
[57:44] foot lots, cottages, garden cottages,
[57:46] which are fronting onto a green um
[57:49] ramblers and and downsizing housing. So,
[57:52] if I've got a 10K and I want to get
[57:54] something a little bit more for a later
[57:58] stage of life, those types of products
[58:00] are available,
[58:02] including smaller lots for first-time
[58:04] home buyers or um younger families to to
[58:09] be able to grow into, especially given
[58:11] the cost of housing in our current
[58:13] market. It's uh significantly grown over
[58:16] the last few years. mixed takes some of
[58:20] those detached on the the lower scale,
[58:22] so cottages and and so on. And then it
[58:25] takes some of the uh larger attached
[58:29] products and mixes those together so
[58:31] that there's a blend between the
[58:33] detached and attached and and you get
[58:35] more of a transition as opposed to
[58:37] here's one, here's another, there's no
[58:39] blending. They're very different. What
[58:42] that also does, as we've talked about
[58:44] this, is it establishes more complete
[58:47] neighborhoods where you can actually
[58:49] live in the same neighborhood, grow in
[58:50] the same neighborhood, and and age
[58:53] essentially in place. And so, we've
[58:55] established some of those mixed
[58:57] opportunities to allow that to happen.
[59:02] As previously mentioned, wetlands, the
[59:04] open space was intended uh from the
[59:08] feedback that we received to be the
[59:10] heart of this community. There's
[59:12] approximately 116 acres of um
[59:18] non and I'm going to say this out loud,
[59:21] nondelineated wetlands. As we've looked
[59:23] at this, we've sort of mapped where
[59:25] water's going. Some of these are
[59:27] irrigation ponds that you close off the
[59:29] irrigation and it goes away. Some of
[59:31] these are springs and things that of
[59:34] that nature. And so there's legitimacy
[59:36] to some of those areas. These are not
[59:39] mapped. Um, so I want to make sure that is clear. As delineations occur,
[59:45] there can be adjustments to the way that
[59:47] the open space will work, but
[59:48] nevertheless, the the thematic piece of
[59:51] this is that they do integrate and blend
[59:53] and that the residential units front
[59:55] onto these and integrate with these. So,
[59:57] it's a part of the community. As as we
[1:00:00] go through this using the numbers from
[1:00:03] the city, there's intended to be seven
[1:00:06] acres of parkland per thousand
[1:00:07] residents. Again, taking the rough
[1:00:09] estimate of 15,500 residents in this
[1:00:13] area. Do the math times the seven acres
[1:00:16] per thousand residents. And we're I put
[1:00:19] 110. It's actually 108.5, but rounding
[1:00:23] always round up when it comes to open
[1:00:25] space.
[1:00:27] So, we with with the intended open space
[1:00:31] network, we're significantly over that.
[1:00:34] And again, some of that is due to the
[1:00:37] need and and some of that is proper
[1:00:40] placement and neighborhood node
[1:00:42] commercial supportive residential
[1:00:45] supportive of these open spaces so that
[1:00:47] everyone has close proximity, close
[1:00:50] access to these recreational
[1:00:52] opportunities.
[1:00:55] Again, digging into the trail network,
[1:00:59] we wanted to make that one of the
[1:01:02] forefronted pieces as we heard the the
[1:01:04] feedback from the city elected
[1:01:07] officials, appointed officials, and
[1:01:09] staff. That was a big piece of of what
[1:01:11] needs to be a part of this community is
[1:01:14] this network that works for everyone,
[1:01:17] that blends everybody together, that
[1:01:19] brings the downtown, that brings the the
[1:01:23] station area, that brings this Pacin
[1:01:25] Parkway area all together, these
[1:01:28] networks that actually blend into the
[1:01:30] existing communities
[1:01:32] and bring everyone to to connect and to
[1:01:36] um coexist more naturally.
[1:01:40] walking, biking, built-in transit and
[1:01:43] wayfinding as UTA has service plans
[1:01:46] through this area. Obviously, UD do has
[1:01:48] the PAC Parkway and some of the trail
[1:01:52] supportive things that go along Pac
[1:01:54] Parkway. There's there's a lot that
[1:01:57] happened here and and with it going
[1:01:58] diagonally through the site
[1:02:01] and the rest of it being on a a standard
[1:02:03] north south grid, we had to get a little
[1:02:06] creative to keep that grid. It is
[1:02:08] angular but it it blends the existing on
[1:02:11] either side together so that it's not
[1:02:14] confusing as it go as as individual goes
[1:02:16] through that space.
[1:02:20] You can see a little bit more depth on
[1:02:21] that street and trail network as you
[1:02:23] look at these. It is a essentially a a a
[1:02:27] skewed grid so that we can connect in
[1:02:30] the existing grids and then pull them
[1:02:32] together so that those roads can sort of
[1:02:35] stay pretty substantial or or consistent
[1:02:38] as it as it runs through the city. In
[1:02:41] addition to that, you'll see a similar
[1:02:43] grid for the trail networks where we
[1:02:45] would establish on street trails and
[1:02:48] off- streetet trails to give people full
[1:02:50] opportunity to use those. And again,
[1:02:53] there's a a larger facility that runs
[1:02:56] along Pacin Parkway. You also note there
[1:02:59] are three
[1:03:02] um grade separated crossings, two across
[1:03:06] Pacin Parkway and then one under I-15.
[1:03:08] So you you currently have a Bamburger
[1:03:11] that goes under uh in in every document
[1:03:16] that we are showing in even in the
[1:03:18] adjacent documents. We wanted to make
[1:03:20] this a prominent piece so that
[1:03:24] UD do understands this is part of what
[1:03:27] we want. This is part of what is not
[1:03:29] just what we want but is necessary to
[1:03:31] make this function.
[1:03:34] If you don't allow people to get over to
[1:03:35] the transit
[1:03:38] that increases that congestion on the
[1:03:40] streets. Let's give them opportunities
[1:03:42] to actually be able to to
[1:03:44] correspond with what's on the north.
[1:03:46] There's the UVU campus and all those
[1:03:48] other pieces. Let's blend all that
[1:03:50] together and allow opportunity to to get
[1:03:52] into the downtown, to get into the
[1:03:54] station area, to get into this pacing
[1:03:56] parkway area, and make it so that it's a
[1:03:59] viable option to be on a bike or other
[1:04:02] mode outside of a vehicle.
[1:04:07] to the commercial point right now as far
[1:04:11] as the the leakage and and that's a a
[1:04:15] more
[1:04:17] difficult
[1:04:18] it's it's a term and and the explanation
[1:04:21] here is if you have a $100 in the city
[1:04:25] how much of that is leaking out to a
[1:04:26] different city. So if we had a 100
[1:04:28] million 46 is leaking out to a different
[1:04:32] city that is a substantial number
[1:04:37] and we wanted to make sure that we had
[1:04:40] this area significantly robust to be
[1:04:43] able to capture a significant portion of
[1:04:46] that potentially even getting to the
[1:04:48] point where you are not in a leakage
[1:04:51] state. you are in a a an extended
[1:04:54] capture rate where more of that capture
[1:04:56] is coming in above the 100%. Meaning
[1:04:59] you're capturing all of your residents
[1:05:02] uh the revenue that that could be and
[1:05:04] then bringing in and so that's why that
[1:05:07] regional draw. In addition to that, the
[1:05:09] existing square foot commercial
[1:05:12] estimated uh 554,000 to 760,000 square
[1:05:17] feet.
[1:05:19] I'm going to throw some numbers out
[1:05:20] there because I like numbers.
[1:05:23] If you
[1:05:25] uh divide that by a floor area ratio and that means how much building there
[1:05:30] is to an acre. If it's a one acre and we
[1:05:34] use 30% of it, 30% is a floor area
[1:05:38] ratio. So how much building is that? So
[1:05:41] estimating that
[1:05:43] the residents in this area alone will
[1:05:46] cover
[1:05:47] 50 to 60 of those acres of commercial by
[1:05:50] themselves. So that does leave
[1:05:53] 120 acres remaining. If you take into
[1:05:57] consideration the o the rest of the
[1:05:59] 38,000 residents, the majority of that
[1:06:02] number is already gone. That's
[1:06:03] approximately 122 acres of commercial
[1:06:06] that is supported in this area just by
[1:06:08] the growth that will happen over in that
[1:06:10] area. Now you start to take in regional
[1:06:13] capture which is something that you'll
[1:06:15] be able to do with the patient parkway
[1:06:17] and we're well within that that range or
[1:06:20] that realm of 181 acres. Hopefully that tracks and you guys can follow
[1:06:25] that. So if you do have any questions
[1:06:27] feel free to to let me know but but we wanted to be supportive. We wanted to
[1:06:32] help minimize that capture number and
[1:06:35] focus on some of the things that can
[1:06:37] bring some of that money back into to
[1:06:39] PACE and make sure that we support our
[1:06:42] own.
[1:06:45] So next steps is these implementation
[1:06:49] strategies and a little bit of the
[1:06:51] community service
[1:06:53] needs that will be required by this
[1:06:55] development as it grows. as as
[1:06:57] previously stated 110 acres given that
[1:07:01] 15,500
[1:07:03] uh for for parks. As far as schools are
[1:07:05] concerned, mathematically two elementary
[1:07:08] schools would be required. As we went
[1:07:10] through the modeling of this based on
[1:07:12] the residential types, the housing sizes
[1:07:17] and the types of housing like the
[1:07:20] typical we have this many kids in this
[1:07:23] household type and and some of those
[1:07:25] typical uh measures. In addition to
[1:07:28] that, there would be one middle school
[1:07:30] and we put one high school here, but
[1:07:32] it's actually 6. Rounding up goes to
[1:07:35] one. you can't have 6 of a high school
[1:07:38] doesn't work that well. Um so we do we
[1:07:41] do notate that as one but we dig into
[1:07:43] that a little bit more just so you can
[1:07:45] understand those numbers. In addition to
[1:07:47] that emergency services it was brought
[1:07:49] up early in the process that there is a
[1:07:53] desire
[1:07:55] for fire station within this this
[1:07:57] planning area. There was not uh there
[1:08:00] was not intended to be a need for a
[1:08:04] specific police station or additional
[1:08:06] police station, just added staffing as
[1:08:09] this area grows out. And then
[1:08:13] that fire station was
[1:08:16] potentially going to be along Arrowhead
[1:08:18] Trail or along the 198 for better access
[1:08:20] and and uh service area. In addition to
[1:08:24] that, we look at other community
[1:08:25] services like library, senior center,
[1:08:28] churches. Uh we've anticipated there to
[1:08:31] be approximately nine
[1:08:34] multi-denominational churches throughout
[1:08:36] this area. Just looking at the existing
[1:08:39] demographics of PAC and Utah County just
[1:08:41] to understand what what could be
[1:08:44] anticipated here and that those are the
[1:08:46] numbers that we've looked at. There is
[1:08:48] obviously the existing library, but as
[1:08:50] you continue to grow, additional
[1:08:52] libraries for other service areas would
[1:08:57] essentially be required as this this
[1:08:59] eastern area grows out, including
[1:09:00] service uh services for seniors and the
[1:09:04] potential for a community or rec center,
[1:09:06] which is already a topic that you are
[1:09:09] well aware of as as being a need as as
[1:09:12] the city continues to grow out. far as
[1:09:15] some of the implementation strategies
[1:09:18] ongoing coordination with UD do which is
[1:09:20] continuing to occur.
[1:09:22] One of the subconultants that we have
[1:09:24] been working with on this project is
[1:09:26] methods consulting who is also doing the
[1:09:28] PAC and parkway plan. So it's been great
[1:09:30] synergy to continue to push UD do get
[1:09:34] the access and other things that we
[1:09:35] really need to make this a great place
[1:09:37] for for PAC. In addition to that,
[1:09:40] there's uh the pursuit of some of the
[1:09:42] annexation of the key parcels. There's
[1:09:45] one larger swath that's not within the
[1:09:47] city yet that would help make that uh a
[1:09:52] connective link especially on the east
[1:09:54] west connectivity there. Infrastructure
[1:09:56] and utility extensions. Uh there's been
[1:10:00] another group that was working through
[1:10:01] the utilities. We've coordinated with
[1:10:03] that that is going to be showing in the
[1:10:06] plan a summation of essentially how the
[1:10:08] utilities were worked through here where
[1:10:10] the connection points general sizing and
[1:10:12] things of that nature and then generally
[1:10:15] to codify the development vision making
[1:10:19] sure that as that code update is
[1:10:21] happening that there are specific
[1:10:23] metrics in place that we can actually
[1:10:25] implement this plan that it can be built
[1:10:28] the way that you visioned the way that
[1:10:31] the city visioned.
[1:10:32] And then the last piece is that network
[1:10:34] and open space system encouraging and
[1:10:36] engaging land owners through those
[1:10:38] public private partnerships and through
[1:10:40] the code to establish those open space
[1:10:43] dimensions and and how it needs to be
[1:10:45] built through the the community.
[1:10:48] And with that that is uh that's
[1:10:51] everything. Any questions?
[1:10:53] >> I I had one question uh that that came
[1:10:56] up on one of the first slides. Is it UD
[1:10:59] do that's pursuing the 12 foot pathways
[1:11:02] on each side?
[1:11:03] >> So, it's part of the PAC Parkway they have and
[1:11:09] >> Oh, Travis. Uh, he could probably speak
[1:11:12] better to this, but yes, it's part of
[1:11:13] the the right of way.
[1:11:15] >> It's dot driven.
[1:11:16] >> Yes.
[1:11:16] >> Okay.
[1:11:16] >> Yes.
[1:11:17] >> That does that concern anybody that it's
[1:11:20] that large?
[1:11:22] >> That's at our request actually. So, we
[1:11:25] can have Yeah. drive a car down it.
[1:11:29] >> Well, but I
[1:11:32] >> Okay.
[1:11:33] >> So, for reference point, if if you may be familiar with the word
[1:11:38] Murdoch Trail.
[1:11:40] >> Yes.
[1:11:40] >> That is 12 feet.
[1:11:41] >> Yep.
[1:11:42] >> And it is a nice facility. It is
[1:11:45] wellused and we want this to be
[1:11:48] wellused. And if you do DOT's going to
[1:11:50] run a a giant wall through your city, we
[1:11:53] want people to be able to at least use
[1:11:55] the side of the wall.
[1:11:57] Yep.
[1:12:01] » Okay. Any other comments?
[1:12:03] >> Um I just have one. Um it's come to my
[1:12:06] attention and I talked about this at our
[1:12:07] many retreat. Um I think we really need
[1:12:09] to start paying attention to um a few
[1:12:13] more
[1:12:15] uh one level no stairs for upcoming
[1:12:20] um generations. Just to keep that in
[1:12:23] mind because everything I see is
[1:12:27] >> two stories or more and
[1:12:30] >> and we really need some they're just not
[1:12:33] being built right now and so
[1:12:34] >> it's true
[1:12:35] >> just right into the house no steps and
[1:12:38] stuff. So
[1:12:39] >> that is it own bullet point on the
[1:12:42] detached intentionally
[1:12:44] >> it it is its own point there and we do
[1:12:46] take some significant effort to talk
[1:12:48] about the ramblers and the need for it.
[1:12:50] >> Thank you.
[1:12:50] >> Yeah. Okay.
[1:12:51] >> That's all. Thank you.
[1:12:52] >> Okay, Chris, I think you've done a great
[1:12:54] job. I don't think there's any other
[1:12:55] questions from looking at the council.
[1:12:58] >> Great presentation.
[1:12:59] >> So, appreciate you and all your efforts.
[1:13:02] >> Uh, I did neglect and I know Andrew took
[1:13:05] care of it, but thank you for the
[1:13:06] planning commission members being here.
[1:13:08] We appreciate you.
[1:13:09] >> Yeah, thank you for being here.
[1:13:13] >> Mayor, I'd make a motion.
[1:13:15] >> Okay. that we go into a closed session
[1:13:18] to discuss the exchange, sale or lease
[1:13:21] of real property and number two, the
[1:13:24] character, professional confidence or
[1:13:26] physical or mental health of an
[1:13:28] individual.
[1:13:29] >> Okay.
[1:13:31] >> Is there a second
[1:13:32] >> at time?
[1:13:33] >> State the time.
[1:13:35] >> Okay. State the time. The time is 7:16
[1:13:38] p.m.
[1:13:39] >> I'll second.
[1:13:40] >> Okay. We have a motion been seconded.
[1:13:42] Starting roll co starting with council
[1:13:44] Smith. Yes.
[1:13:45] >> Council Moss.
[1:13:46] >> Yes.
[1:13:47] >> Promote score.
[1:13:50] >> Yes. You have to vote. Bob,
[1:13:51] >> it's your turn.
[1:13:52] >> Yes.
[1:13:56] » Okay. Then we are June to a close
[1:13:59] meeting.
[1:13:59] >> Thanks everyone.