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Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Committee for the Hall of Tuesday, December 9, 9 a.m. for our budget discussions. Can I have a confidential agenda, please? Councillor Griezmann, it's a confidential hall, so all in favour? I'm not opposed. Thank confirmation of the minutes of November 12th and November 25th. Councillor Collins, all in favour? We have no presentations and delegations.

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and with us here today is Gary, our financial genius, with a 2020 budget for discussion.

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Gary, take it away. Yes, you have no monetary with you. Well, that's fine.

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Good morning, Council. Preparation of the budget, I'd like to thank our staff team

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who put a budget together. It's just not one person, although there is a leader

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and that's Gary. And I have a special thanks to you and your team

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putting this together. You had a challenge this year and you were able to, the challenge

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was 5% to try not to go over 5% and you did that so I appreciate that. During our committee

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of the whole meeting, it allowed us to discuss and listen to Marin Council on their thoughts

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moving forward. Council has been concerned over tax increases, especially for those on fixed

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income and the challenge us to also come in under under five if possible. For us to get

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their staff to propose some reductions which probably hasn't happened a lot in this town,

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but it is now there are some reductions in the budget because we haven't spent the money that

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it gave us in the past so we're giving it back. We're very busy at the district and we always have

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to have to be very careful too. I'm adding too many capital budgets. You add all these capital

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budget to tax board, then you don't deliver it. It's best to deliver projects as soon as possible

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because you're taxing people right away. And so I just wanted to tell everyone that's one

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of the ways we actually did keep the budget down a little bit was to only do what we really could

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afford.

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We have a few major projects ongoing right now, Child Care Facility, the protective services

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building. And of course, there's a project that we don't think and talk about a lot, but it's

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the planning department and all the work that they still have to do to meet the provincial

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legislation that was proposed this year. Today's budget reflects some community concerns,

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such as speeding and accessibility. It addresses next year's election, which we may have to have too.

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Hopefully not. Community events, et cetera. Also was immensely helpful that a local resident donated

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to $200,000 to the district and specifically to the fire department and we get to replace

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a vehicle that we've been having some issues with breakdown.

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So that person wants to remain anonymous and but I just wanted to make sure that everybody

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knows there's everybody is out there trying to help us as best we can and I'll be quite

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frank without that $200,000 it would have been a little bit more on taxation for our community.

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Two issues that still need to be addressed in the future is asset management, and we'll

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do a lot of work in 2026 on that.

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And policing.

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Now people say, oh, what's the big deal with policing?

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Of course, clona is out of the regional model, and that's where they used to manage all

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of the policing.

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So now we're going to have our own detachment in West clona.

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I was told initially through a review that our costs might not go up too much, but I'm

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could hold my breath on that until I see the real numbers. And Gary has slowly put some

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money aside over the years, just a little contingency because we're not sure about what's

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going to happen with the RCMP and our cost, so he's been preparing for that, which I thank

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him again because that'll allow West to keep the tax increases as affordable as we can.

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And I'll leave it there because I don't want to spoil all the great news you're going to

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tell us about today, Gary. So thank you very much, Council and staff.

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Thank you, Joe.

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Good morning, Marin Council. I wanted to introduce Alanna Haskins.

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She's an accountant. She's replaced a former employee and Delaney, our Deputy Director of Finance,

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would be here as not as under the weather today. So she's just listening in as we go through this.

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and we'll get started.

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So I'm presenting the proposed 2026 Provisional Budget today as recommended by our CAO Joe

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Kriron.

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Once we are completed today and have council agreement on the budget and rate, request

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for decision will come forward to council's regular meeting this afternoon.

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Golden.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Before we get started, may I ask a question of Gary?

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I think this is brilliant. It is easy to read, it is easy to follow. The one thing for

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me that is missing is the 2005 Actuals. You are comparing budget with budget. Shouldn't

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we have a statement of Actuals in that?

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We have not before the Actuals come forward when we do the financial statements at the end

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of the year.

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So I haven't done it in the previous. No.

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All right. Continue on. So I want to talk a little bit how we got here, how we, why are

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we here today, or how would we get to today? So the process started in August where the

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directors met to review items from council discussions over the past year and at the community

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of the whole. In alignment with council's strategic priorities, directors discussed areas

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and programs that require additional funding and or decreases to certain programs.

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Directors and prepared a list of priority 1 and priority 2 items for operations and capital.

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This list, which included both increases and decreases to the budget, was reviewed with

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the CAO and each director spoke to the reasons items were on the list.

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From this discussion, priority 1 items were added to department budgets to assist in determining

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proposed 2026 tax rate. There was some back and forth as the discussion was about an austerity

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budget for 2026.

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So, a little bit about the process. We'll review the book. Table of contents

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we'll go through the summary. Basically, the most important page of the budget, I would think.

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We'll talk about reserves, we'll go through operating capital priorities, the operating

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budget, capital budget, and a little bit about utilities.

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It's the same layout we've used in prior years, and thank you Councillor Connan for noting

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it's easy to read, and that's what we try to do is just make it easy to follow.

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At this point, I'd also like to acknowledge Kirsten Jones' contribution to the 2026

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provisional budget.

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She is responsible for assembling the information in an easy-to-follow format, layout, and adding

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the visual content.

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She does an excellent job with this, and so I thank her for helping the finance department

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keeping the book readable, without her it would be a bunch of spreadsheets with numbers,

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and not a lot of fun.

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So,

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so the proposed 2026 tax rate increases 4.87%.

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This is comprised of 1.2% of reserve contributions to a future expenditure reserve and 3.67% to fund

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operating requests total of 4.87.

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The future expenditure reserve was approved by Council beginning in 2024.

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Without an emergency reserve, the district is at risk of being able to, unable to fund

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an emergency event, this would include items related to events such as the forest fires that

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it would experience this past summer, or possible upcoming by-election. Each of these examples

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given would not be in any budget, but would require a budget amendment and a funding source.

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We'll talk more about this reserve in section B.

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The operating portion of 3.67% is to fund budget

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addition for programs and services, the district can control this year.

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For example, the fire department, recreation services, snow clearing, parks maintenance,

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by-law services, corporate and council services.

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It does not include items that the district cannot control, such as police services,

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or transit, or taxes collected for other governments.

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These items will come forward with the final budget in April 2026.

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The additions include the contract negotiated with the QP staff in 2025,

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General Cost Increases to Services, and Budget Request.

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And there's also some budget decreases brought forward that we'll see in the priority one items.

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The district continues to use surpluses from prior year's budgets to keep the current year's tax rate lower.

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For 2026, we will be using 418,000 from prior year surpluses.

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And that's down from the 2025 amount used of 430,000.

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So what does the 4.87 tax increase mean to a Peachland homeowner?

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So we compare this to the typical average value-dissessed, valued house for a Peachland.

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And that assessment was down 1.5%, 13,200, from 890,700 to 877,500.

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Now, this information for the current years was based on the BC Assessment Preview

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role, which was issued on October 31st, 2025.

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It can change at certain times, but that's what we're basing it on.

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That's the figure that we have but you, so a typical home and pizza line, assuming their

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assessment was 890,000, for 2025 we'll see a $80 tax increase, annual tax increase.

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That is $60 and 67 cents per month.

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The prior year increase was $111.

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If a home's assessment value is higher, or lower than average, the taxes and the percentage

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change will be different.

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So,

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just for a bit of a different perspective, a 1% tax increase to the overall budget in

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Peachland is approximately 80,000.

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Colona just read last week, 2 million.

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So quite a significant difference between the two.

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We still have the same amount of work to do.

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They just do a larger volume of it, same reporting requirements.

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It's also like to note that all our capital requests are funded from our asset renewal reserves,

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which are taxation.

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It's just not directly this year, so it's still taxation.

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And no change to the parcel tax is collected for the protective services building.

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If you note from last year, the plan was this year to increase it another hundred dollars.

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We're still in the planning stages, so we're not increasing that to potentially next year.

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I won't be before 2027.

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These are the revenues that we've got just a comparison budgeted figures year over year.

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So the property taxes, that's $394,000, some of that larger variances there, and there's one for

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a decrease in government transfers, and that relates to provincial funds received and reported

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as income in prior years, and that was to assist in prior provincial housing initiatives, which we

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won't have budgeted for in 2026. Taxes collected for other governments, the bottom

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 items there are four estimates

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and they also reported on the expense

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side.

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So we just estimated at this time we don't have the final figures from the regional

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district or for the hospital or the school taxes and those.

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So we've estimated those and they offset, so there's no effect on this year's taxes.

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the other revenue from own sources. Could you explain that a little bit more and

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why there's an over a quarter million dollar drop?

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That was to do with the revenue that we had to grant money that we had to recognize as

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revenue in prior years and we don't have it in 2026. I know it's grant money but

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But it's not in the Grants line, we have to recognize as Revenue and that's where it was.

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So, that's to do with some of the provincial initiatives required.

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Going forward, the message from the provincial government is that there's limited grant money available. Canada has experienced more tariffs, and less opportunities for trade with the US, and all levels of government are feeling the effects. Since the mic was off, I just want to start at the beginning there's budget requests are in alignment with council priorities. This council has been exceptionally good with obtaining grants for the betterment of the community and the examples that I use are the childcare center and the west side trail.

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into the millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars there.

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Budget timeline, I said it started in August, well I started in August and we started

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meeting with the Departments in September, Provisional Budget is December, the Public Open

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House with Budget, with Council is in February, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Readings of the 5-Year Financial

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plan in the tax rate bylaws is in April. And final adoption of budget and tax rate

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bylaws is in May. The statutory requirement is in May 15th filing for those bylaws. And

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then once that's passed, the property tax notices are mailed to residents in June.

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Are there any questions for Gary about this part, part A? I don't think so. So let's move

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on to section B. Oh, yes, calls the Ingram, just so refresh all of us. So this is the budget for

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January through December of 2026, but the tax notices and the taxes don't get collected

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to the middle of the year. So, how is it we survive for the first half of the year?

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I can't say we don't spend any money because we do, but we have cash flow, you know, we manage

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But they're cashless, we have cash to get us through, and so it carries over and there's

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excess cash, we know the rest of the pie.

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Go on to go on.

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I would remind my colleague that we also have borrowing authority from the local credit

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union, which we've come to use.

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We've never had to use, don't anticipate doing so now.

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Yeah, I have to say, Gary, the percentage is great.

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The tax increase we're looking at.

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I think that's what this Council wanted, and now we will go to more into the details

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of that budget.

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But as far as I am concerned, I'm very happy with this budget.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I want to talk a little bit about contributions to reserves.

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You've heard me speak a lot about reserves and contributions and how you know what we use them for.

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So this chart here is just to show what we anticipate contributing to reserves over the next five years.

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Fire Department equipment, we've got an ongoing commitment of 140,000.

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That may have to increase as we get closer to purchasing that.

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That's in a couple years, speaking with Chief Cummings that we're probably going to have

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to increase it possibly next year to just flatten that out so it's not as significant.

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The cost of replacement equipment, it's a proper unit is 1.5 million, 1.6 and we don't

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have that much in the budget yet, but we're getting close.

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But part of this is also the planning, so small contributions to reserve over a period of time starts to build up and it's a good thing for the district that doesn't hit us and that leads us into the policing reserve.

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We started last year with a $25,000 contribution.

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That is included in this year's budget in that rate amount, the $25,000.

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dollars, so that will help the impact when we get to the 15,000 population size, but

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also as CO, Joe mentioned, the change in police services transitioning from Kelowna to

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West Kelowna is going to have an impact as well.

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So we're making sure that we have funding available, so it doesn't, we don't get a big hit with

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that. General capital asset renewal, that's annual contribution. That comes from,

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prior years it was a parcel tax, and now it's in taxation, so there's a kind of an increase

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every year that occurs with that. And a contribution to reserve for future expenditures. So I talked

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about this earlier. Council started this in 2024. The first year we added 75,000. The second

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year was two, I can't remember the 150,000 and this year we've changed a little bit, we're

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going to use a 1.2% of our residential tax rate that we need and it works up to 120,000.

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So that's what we're pulling in there and that's why I mentioned earlier the portion of the

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increases related to contribution to reserves and it could be used for, by keeping it kind

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of a general for future expenditures, you know, Council can direct it to be used for any

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number of things.

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It's not tied into only one usage, so.

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Water fund, again, there's some water improvements, a contribution there every year and that's,

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comes through taxation and as well as the water capital asset renewal. We continue to run a deficit

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in the water fund and we're working on the water rates and we anticipate having that done in

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the first quarter of this year. So hopefully it's back before the final budget and you can make a

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decision there. The taxpayer shouldn't bear the funding for water usage or water rates

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or the water utility. The usage of the people who use it, which is essentially the taxpayers,

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should bear that. So if you use more, you pay more. And that's how that'll be. So we'll continue

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your work on that and similar with the sewer deficit. So, some of these arise, it's allocation

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of expenses to the utilities from general operations. We can't operate, you know, council

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makes some decisions over the water or sewer so the portion of those costs might go to those

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utilities, same with administration. So,

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we are contributing, you know, netting, you

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know, close to a million dollars a year, to those reserves. And we use the, a lot of

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the asset capital requests are being funded from the general capital asset renewal, the

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water improvements, the water capital asset renewal, and the sewer capital asset renewal.

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And you'll see that when we go through the capital items moving

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on to the reserve.

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So these are, we don't have the final balances yet for 2025.

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So they're estimated and try to give council and the community an overview of the balances

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in our reserve funds and what we're using the reserve funds for.

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So the first one is the community to works fund.

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We're going to use some of that funding for the Turpanier Bench Road Paving.

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The growing community funds, we have to spend this in by 2027, I believe it is the last

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year.

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We've got about 70,000 left that we haven't committed to anything, and so it's a little

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bit of interest, not as much as it was when it was $2.8 million, but we're not fully finished

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some of the projects, so that's there and that may come available, maybe it's possible

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by final budget will have an extra 70,000 that we could use and direct the money to

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something there.

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Pacing reserve, excuse me, told you we had 25,000 a year, so estimated balance at the end

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to 2026, a 65,000.

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Prior to Markman Reserve, we're at 650.

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So if we're talking 1.5, we're about 50% there.

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So we need more.

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I think originally when they funded for it,

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it was going to be around $1,800 to $1,000,000 for a unit.

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And like a lot of other things, especially coming out

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of the States, or the US to cost or increase more.

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General capital asset renewal reserve. So this is where a significant portion of our asset capital assets are purchased or capital projects.

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We have contributions of $448,000. We have a number of expenditures and we can get into more of the detail as we go through a line by line item.

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Non-development road reserve, no contribution there, it's 142, parks and equipment, 64,000,

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sewer capital renewal reserve, 683,000, water capital asset renewal reserve, there's a

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couple of projects there, Barney Lane Pressure Reducing Station, and this will come up in the

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items and the EUR clean PRB stations and planning for that those are the expenditures coming out of there

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and then the water system improvements reserve have got water meter replacement

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asking for another 500,000 this year.

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The calls are cool.

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If I may, Mr. Mayor, thank you.

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The Bony Lane pressure valve costs, we did a number of changes to make it easier for

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the replacement and stuff. I'm a little surprised that what's the, do we know what the entire

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cost of that project is? Because what we're talking about here is simply an increase to

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amount. So whatever the gross amount is, it's quite huge.

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Through the mayor, it's close to 900,000

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estimated, although this budget increase of 500,000 in itself is an estimate before we go to tender

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on the redesign. So we are hoping that the redesign is made it easier for the contractors and they're

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more comfortable with the risk and the cost will come down from that. But this increase is based

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based on the first tender prices that we received.

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Any chances can they get any less?

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I won't commit to that, but I'm asking for that extra 500,000 and hoping to give some of that back after we tender.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Yes,

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the unspensed surplus.

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After we fund this year's, or the 2026, operating expenses, we anticipate a balance

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of 450,000, and there could be a potential for a, well, we should have a surplus from

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this year as well, so from 2025.

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Just for clarification, with surplus, you mean we have more revenue than expenses at the

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end of the year?

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Is that what you mean with surplus?

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Correct.

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Yes, correct.

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Our expenses did not exceed revenue that we brought in.

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So we put that into a surplus.

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And then we use it to reduce taxes in future years.

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Yeah.

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I think that's smart enough.

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Also in room.

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So.

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But the estimated balance on December 31st, 2025 would include the 2025 surplus.

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Or you're saying it does not.

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It does not include it, I don't have that amount yet, so there is.

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I don't want to guess, so the potential is, it should go up.

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Okay.

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And I can report that at the end of when we do our financial statements.

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Yeah.

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Development cost charges, I guess we need to be about 4.3 million.

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Future expenditures reserve.

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So this is the amount that we, the 1.2% I spoke about, 225,000 to date at another 120 this year, 345,000.

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So if you think back three years ago, we had zero.

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So, with Council's direction, we've

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Add a little bit every year. And that's it's it's a really nice cushion. It makes me feel better because when I get requests for, hey, this project's gone over or something like that. Now we have a source of funding that we can go to to do it if there's something happens. So it's just important to have it really sort of for me comes to light when we had those fires and the province is tending not to pay for as much stuff as they used to.

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their resident to pay for those things. So this is another source that we may need within the community.

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So any

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questions about section B?

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Seeing none.

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Let's move on.

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Section C.

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It's the operating capital priority summary. So this is just a chart of how we're funding items.

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items, the source of funding for our budget requests or taxation, there's reserves, and

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we'll get into the line by line items as we go through them.

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Temptation reserves, there's grants, grant funding there that we're using, some

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other

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funding there, utilities, community works fund, those are the items there.

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In the budget book, there's priority two items that I have not put up on the screen here.

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Next item I'd like to speak about is the,

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say

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the grants, this is page 21 in the book

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if you want to flip to that.

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So,

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we distributed $63,150 grants in 2025, and we budgeted $72,233 for 2026, so there's always

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a need in the community, so there may be some requests that come later on that we can council

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can distribute.

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Okay Gary, it's my understanding in the social security council that these grants

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doesn't need to be applied for anymore, we're going to change that by law, and it will

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be granted for the next four years to each of these different community groups.

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It improves their capacity of budgeting for the next four years, and also it takes them

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a lot of time to prepare for these grant applications.

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These are community groups that have proven themselves, I think it was council's will that

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But these ones that are on here will receive these in the next four years.

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Don't think that?

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Yes, thank you.

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And as they are pre-approved and it's an important part of a lot of these groups, annual budgets.

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Is this one of the items that we're looking at making an early payment, like the payments in

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in January as opposed to in June.

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Correct. Yes, that came to Council last June.

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So yeah, we'll be making some payments in January this year.

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That'll be going out. And I think the, I just want to confirm.

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I think that the term was three years and that ends in 2026.

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And then we'll, so for 2027, it'll be the new one starting.

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That's correct. That was my understanding.

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So maybe we need to, we simply discuss that bylaw to, I think it might be my preference

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to do it for the next three years, 26, 27, 28, because that gives them certainty.

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If you have to do it again in 2027, then it defeats the purpose in my eyes.

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So let's discuss this with council when the bylaw comes up in the future.

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Councilor Grateman?

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Just to make notice something for my recollection, these terms were supposed to run alongside

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of council terms so that the re-application would be upon new council appointments.

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And then that way the council of the day has the opportunity to make the decision whether

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to fall under guidelines or to fall under what council of today has decided to do.

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So, I think, personally, pushing it past council elections.

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I personally have no problems with that because we need to give certainty to these groups.

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If you only do it for one year, what is the certainty?

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We need to tell them, no, you're fine for the next three years.

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We do that on a lot of occasions that we go over boundaries of councils.

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I think this is a very important issue for our groups.

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And I think it's important that we give them that security for at least three to four years.

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Councilor Connan and Councilor Ingraham.

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Sorry.

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One last question, please, and thank you.

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The last question that I have is, are we taking into account that these numbers may rise

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or fall based on expenditures that are uncontrollable?

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Because are we just going to assume these numbers and take a chance every year that somebody

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may or may not come back to us with an unforeseen expenditure that is beyond expectations, we

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will know those happen. This is the grant that they were getting, and if in their expenditures,

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something happens, and they need to take care of their expenditures. This is what our council of

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councils will give them to help their budgeting. Okay, so next council moving forward, we'll have

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to deal with this for three years of their term. I just think. Councilwoman, I'm Councilman.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I will just simply go into endorse the idea that we should link this to a council term, that's all.

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I'll just point out that we've approved the grants for 2026 and there will be a new council.

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Soon enough into 2026 and we can have a meeting to discuss and say pre-approved for the next four years.

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Thank you, Council Cons. Six and a half a dozen of the other. It's not like we're going to say no

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next term anyway, right? It's only whether we adjusted it all depending on the individual groups needs.

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Thank you. Any more about this part of the section C? Can we go to section D then? Or is there something else

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I just want to make sure that we clarify this.

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So these are the 2025 brands that we paid out.

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So 2026 will pay out, but just so you know the R-Space Society started at 21, went to

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14, and went to 7.

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So they're only going to get 7,000 in 2026.

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That was under Council's direction at three-year term.

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So.

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So I don't think that's what we discussed, that's we visit this after in another meeting

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because I don't think that we are on the same page with this.

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So we have funding for that, but I'm just saying this isn't the, these are the amounts

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that were paid out in 2025.

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Okay, perfect, thanks.

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Okay,

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now we're getting into section D. This is the fun stuff.

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So no, dear, so the process will be, I'm not going to speak to any of the discussion

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here. The green sheets are priority ones. I'll speak to the priority one item. What the title of

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it is, the amount and the funding. There's no questions. I'll move on to the next one. When I say

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questions, yeah, some questions. If council wants to discuss it further than that, we'll star it.

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And then we'll, at the end, when we've gone through all the budget requests right to the end of the utilities,

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then we'll come back and revisit all those.

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There may be some pre-P1 items that you want to change the amount, maybe move it one way or the other,

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same with the P2 items.

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So, is that fair enough?

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So, same procedures as prior years.

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Okay,

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so we're on page 28.

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First,

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I am the 2026 election, $14,000 from taxation,

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legal fees, $13,000 from taxation.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Legal fees, I'm assuming that's kind of based on past years, expenditures.

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One thing that I would suggest is that you either up the budget for that in coming years

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or creative reserve for it because at some point we're going to need representation for

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undripped challenges. So we have a voice in those negotiations and that's going to involve

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substantial legal fees that we've never incurred on that level before. So, food for thoughts,

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sewing a seed, but based on how it's been going around the province, I would expect legal fees

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to go up quite a bit at some point. It's hard to say when. So, whether that's a budget item,

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and we're creating a little bit of a reserve for it,

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it's coming, I think.

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Next item is page 32.

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Legion 100 anniversary event grant $10,000 taxation.

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Community events and hence funding, $15,000 taxation.

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Page 36,

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stormwater master plan phase one, 50,000 from a grant.

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It's a grant dependent project, but doesn't occur, we don't want to stay in the budget.

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Engineering series credit, so here's a reduction of $4,000, we determined that we don't need

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that.

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Page 40,

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we have new washrooms.

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So we've reduced the, by not asking for $20,000, we're reducing the level of service, we're

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closing in the in the winter. So if council decides do they want to keep it open in the winter,

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it's going to be a $20,000 hit. So that's how this one works.

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Just for the public at home, in the past once we had quite a few acts of journalism

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in both of our washrooms that are costing us $1,000,000. We know who's doing it. They were

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reprehended by the RCMP. They were back on our streets two days later. So and then they've

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underized the other portion we think at dots. So we do have a problem here. It costs us a lot of money

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and each funderism is extra taxation on our population. Just for that our residents are aware of this,

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if we have no budget for this. So if it happens, we need to take it out of money that we

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would use for something else.

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And so that's going on, and it's very hard to stop it.

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Council Ingraham.

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But is the vandalism restricted to the winter months?

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Or is it a year-round problem?

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So I'm sure that there's still people walking along Beach Avenue

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and the winter that having the washrooms available

433
00:42:57,390 --> 00:42:58,610
would be an important thing.

434
00:43:00,350 --> 00:43:04,450
Absolutely, but there are a few people who use the washrooms, but it's not like the

435
00:43:04,450 --> 00:43:05,110
big season.

436
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:06,350
The big season, it's very busy.

437
00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:15,490
So what we determined is that we could save about 20 grand through genitorial fees and

438
00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:16,750
stuff like that.

439
00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:20,710
Bottom line is as final as it could happen whenever.

440
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,330
When it happens in the summer, it doesn't matter.

441
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:25,530
We're so busy, we need the washroom to open, it's so busy.

442
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:30,150
There are some part of parties out there, and I think we're going to leave one, is it

443
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:33,190
one washroom, does one washroom stay open near the museum, I can't remember,

444
00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:38,360
do we put

445
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,860
a board of parties out there, right in the winter?

446
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,300
So there you go, we got a board of parties, it's not the best thing in the winter, but for

447
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:48,800
the one or two people that may use them during the day, it probably saves a lot of money if

448
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,400
we close them.

449
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:54,020
And I get it, because that's what we get, we get one or two people complaining, and then

450
00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:55,960
I got to come here and ask for 20 grand to fix everything.

451
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,800
It's a tough call and I would suggest that we close them in the winter and we'll keep an eye on too, right?

452
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:17,780
I mean down the road we might be getting some cameras on them. Maybe that'll dissuade people from doing the nasty things, but the person that's doing it, they're nuts, no matter what we do, they're nuts, and they can be told many times not to do it, and somehow they end up back here and do it again, and we're getting frustrated just like the RCMP.

453
00:44:21,010 --> 00:44:24,910
Councillor Wolfe. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. We're related to people,

454
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:30,790
banalism, those people and cars. We've talked about putting cameras up on

455
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:36,610
beach, both the front and the back. I'm referring to Princeton in 13th. When is that

456
00:44:36,610 --> 00:44:38,010
coming? Where is that?

457
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:45,950
Thank you. You were through your

458
00:44:45,950 --> 00:44:52,810
worship. Report will be coming back to council early in 2026 for the installation of

459
00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:57,850
accounts. If I may, if the report's favorable, there is money in here for that somewhere.

460
00:45:01,230 --> 00:45:14,830
There is nothing budgeted in the document that you have today, but we still have to research the costs and request would come to council with the reports in early 2026.

461
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:26,190
Okay, yeah, thanks. We have a bit of money tucked away, like in case of urgent issues that come up, so that's how we would fund it.

462
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,880
Seeing no more, you can move on, Gary.

463
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:45,640
Okay, it's going item 40, our page 40, rental revenue increase in addition to 50,400

464
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,280
to taxation.

465
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,760
Is it?

466
00:45:53,860 --> 00:45:55,720
These are the two homes that we have that we're having.

467
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:56,300
It's revenue.

468
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:56,900
We didn't.

469
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,900
We added and included it.

470
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:02,980
So, it decreases our tax for the residents, correct?

471
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,180
So, you need to be very careful what you say here, so it's normally not standing.

472
00:46:07,180 --> 00:46:10,840
This will reduce the tax budget on our presence.

473
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:17,370
Shouldn't that be under the revenue column then?

474
00:46:17,950 --> 00:46:18,870
As opposed to taxation.

475
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,280
Page 46.

476
00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:47,650
FTE training officer.

477
00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:54,010
48,000 from Grant and revenue 48,000.

478
00:46:54,750 --> 00:46:55,510
750.

479
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,520
So a nothing competition this year?

480
00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:01,120
Correct.

481
00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:03,120
Thank you.

482
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:35,800
Gary, I don't think we're going to oppose reductions.

483
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:42,520
Garbage and recycling disposal credit, $4,000.

484
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,420
Page 54,

485
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:51,330
questions from counter-guism.

486
00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:57,030
Just for a clarification, the garbage and recycling disposal credit,

487
00:47:57,570 --> 00:48:01,450
does that mean that our residents are actually stepping up to the plate

488
00:48:01,450 --> 00:48:05,650
and putting appropriate things into garbage and waste disposal,

489
00:48:05,650 --> 00:48:08,150
So, we're not being dinged to the fine.

490
00:48:09,250 --> 00:48:09,850
No.

491
00:48:11,050 --> 00:48:12,850
I was so sorry.

492
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:13,090
Sorry.

493
00:48:13,450 --> 00:48:17,810
This is the bins that the district uses for our garbage pickup.

494
00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:18,390
Okay.

495
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:23,730
Super safe disposal bins, waste management bins.

496
00:48:24,190 --> 00:48:28,610
So, when you pick up the garbage from the commercial ones.

497
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:28,910
Yeah.

498
00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:30,350
Thank you.

499
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:42,870
Page 54, park staff, one FTE taxation, $79,092.

500
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Park's contract service is credit, $10,000 reduction in taxation.

501
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,520
Operating budget is a P2s and planning and development.

502
00:49:05,060 --> 00:49:05,720
I want to speak to those.

503
00:49:06,580 --> 00:49:07,280
Page 58,

504
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,760
is there anything there that council would like to

505
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,200
So we're going to move on now to section E, capital budget.

506
00:49:27,580 --> 00:49:32,660
So no more questions on the D items. I think Councilor Collins has a question.

507
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,620
Sorry. Can we just touch on Wurf and bouquet policy review just for a second?

508
00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:42,120
So I'm clear we are doing that and that's the cost.

509
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:49,120
No, we are not doing that. It's quite a two because we are doing in 2027. And part of

510
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,380
it is that the partners are already overwhelmed with other work for province and so on and

511
00:49:54,380 --> 00:49:58,940
other projects we are for running. So I think this is the best we do with this is in 2027.

512
00:50:07,450 --> 00:50:17,190
Don't you agree? On page 59 then. So this is shown as priority two. But it says that there's

513
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:24,030
mandate that we must do this by June of next year, so I'm confused. Is it something that we have

514
00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:25,510
to do or we don't have to do?

515
00:50:27,790 --> 00:50:31,890
It's a bonus density, the bonus density by law amendment,

516
00:50:32,610 --> 00:50:37,110
so I think it's reduced by 50,000. We're still doing that, correct? No. Okay.

517
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:40,910
Oh, do we have to do it? I don't think so. But Darren has the explanation for this

518
00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:45,250
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

519
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:53,210
We have no additional funding from the province to complete this task, so although it is a

520
00:50:53,210 --> 00:51:00,750
mandate from the province, we will wait for the phone call and discuss with them and perhaps

521
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:02,430
seek an extension if necessary.

522
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:09,470
The fact of the matter is the way that the province, when these mandates, ruled forward, the funding

523
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:14,310
mechanism was based on a small base amount plus a per capita amount based on population.

524
00:51:14,930 --> 00:51:18,830
Obviously, then the smaller communities were hit harder with having less resources and

525
00:51:18,830 --> 00:51:23,690
then less funding to carry out the same amount of work was very challenging. So we're looking

526
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:30,810
forward to having that conversation and perhaps seeking an extension. I do want to note that the

527
00:51:30,810 --> 00:51:36,890
bonus density regulations we do have in our bylaw are based on financial analysis. They're linked

528
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:43,970
to our existing community amenity policy, as well we're currently working on updating that

529
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:50,130
or those regulations as part of our dress project or downtown revitalization implementation

530
00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:54,990
strategy. So we anticipate getting to this work just not on the time frame established by the

531
00:51:54,990 --> 00:52:01,290
province and I think that will address their concerns. The last thing I would note is if you will

532
00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:06,330
Mr. Mayor, we've not enact or we have, despite the fact that we have bonus density regulations in our

533
00:52:06,330 --> 00:52:11,850
zoning they've never been employed so like what's the priority I guess is the another point we want

534
00:52:11,850 --> 00:52:19,470
to make. Thank you. Seems like lies action on our part but is there because it's legislated, is

535
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:27,290
there a penalty in detailed in that legislation for failing to comply? I'm not aware of any penalty.

536
00:52:30,530 --> 00:52:35,650
I would ask or I wouldn't know it. So the remark was that we're going to send you to jail for three

537
00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:39,130
months to give you a rest. I'll do my time for the community, Mr. Mayor.

538
00:52:41,570 --> 00:52:46,910
I think it's very important that if professors ask us to do things and we don't have the financial

539
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:52,450
means for it, they should pay for it. We don't pay for it. So be it. We will see what they

540
00:52:52,450 --> 00:52:58,470
say and then it's up to us as politicians to go and speak with the ministers and see what we

541
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:02,750
can arrange for them. But if these are things that are being put on smaller communities that

542
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:06,610
are in almost, we don't have that money, I guess, more small

543
00:53:06,610 --> 00:53:10,590
communities in this case. I think six or seven of them are in

544
00:53:10,590 --> 00:53:14,530
the same boat. They cannot do this. There's no money. So

545
00:53:14,530 --> 00:53:17,350
because if they also do so many things, we only have so much

546
00:53:17,350 --> 00:53:20,550
money. So if the branch of government wants us to do these

547
00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:23,610
things, we'll give us the money. Councilor Boffing.

548
00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:28,250
Leave the steaksist, but to reflect on Councillor Ingraham's

549
00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:31,550
comment, what you have said is the government has just to do

550
00:53:31,550 --> 00:53:37,290
something and haven't given us the money to do it. Rick said what happens if they find us and

551
00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:39,330
then we'll say we don't have the money to pay the fine either.

552
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,020
I don't believe there'll be a fine.

553
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,620
We are doing it. We're just not doing it on the timeline that they've prescribed and we will get

554
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:53,440
to it. It's a recommendation of the jurisdiction of becoming forward early in the new year. We're

555
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,280
going to continue this conversation. So in due course. And the indications we got on the UB

556
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:04,100
is that from the Ministry of Housing that our town is doing whatever we can, and we are

557
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:09,620
doing more than we are needing to satisfy their needs. So, I think we will have any

558
00:54:09,620 --> 00:54:17,100
problems with this. They are content with our efforts. That was a quote that we got on that meeting.

559
00:54:17,580 --> 00:54:24,420
Councillor Conn. In terms of risk management, we seem to be satisfied that our course of action

560
00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:28,740
and it's not going to bring the heavens down on us.

561
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:31,900
We'll be no heavens coming down on us.

562
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:35,330
Move on.

563
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Okay, we're in the capital budget section E.

564
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:47,900
Page 63.

565
00:54:52,450 --> 00:54:54,370
Swim Bay dot surface replacement.

566
00:54:55,810 --> 00:54:57,510
65,000 from reserve.

567
00:55:00,810 --> 00:55:02,150
Community center parking lot,

568
00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:03,910
safety and capacity improvements,

569
00:55:04,290 --> 00:55:05,550
$10,000 from reserve.

570
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:07,370
Just a question, Moe Devin,

571
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:08,890
Maybe that's Jason can answer that.

572
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:15,270
Are we also going to indicate the parking spots that are only for the community center because it's not a problem.

573
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:18,490
So people only park here in the community center.

574
00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:19,490
Is that the intention?

575
00:55:20,130 --> 00:55:21,510
Yes, through you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, we are.

576
00:55:21,730 --> 00:55:22,570
It's part of that project.

577
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:25,270
And how are going to enforce that?

578
00:55:25,810 --> 00:55:27,050
That's just my second question.

579
00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:30,950
The enforcement will be through our by-law department.

580
00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:36,230
And just further to your question, there will be signs indicating who can park where.

581
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:37,430
But yes, through a by-law department.

582
00:55:38,570 --> 00:55:45,170
Is there a possibility that when people are using our community center, that they register their number plate?

583
00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:51,050
Something like that, so we have something if we need to do some action?

584
00:55:52,370 --> 00:56:04,570
Mayor, we're not anticipating any issues that by-law couldn't handle but certainly we could have number registration and other methods if we're not able to contain the parking.

585
00:56:04,570 --> 00:56:05,610
Thank you.

586
00:56:05,610 --> 00:56:05,630
Perfect.

587
00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:06,010
Thank you.

588
00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:10,810
Continuing on.

589
00:56:10,930 --> 00:56:11,650
Page 64.

590
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:15,740
Thank you.

591
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:25,700
The question I got here, 25% of that is coming from a donation that our space is supposed

592
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:27,740
to be raising.

593
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:36,880
I'm just wondering, are we going to be providing a mechanism similar to what we did for the

594
00:56:36,880 --> 00:57:03,380
the peer project where the district would be receiving those money so that the donors can get a charitable donation tax receipt, because the arts council can give tax donations, but this is an our space relationship, not an arts council, so I'm just wondering if we're going to do something similar where the donations could be flowed through the district so the people can get tax receipts like we did with the peer.

595
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,560
I haven't been part of their discussions of how they're going to fund that $25,000, but certainly,

596
00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:20,760
we could do that. But again, I don't want to be issuing receipts for $5. So, we'll figure that out.

597
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:27,080
For your information, I will be going from now on to the R space meetings. And when I spoke with

598
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,800
them, I think a few months ago, when they were raising this, I think it's arch council is going to use

599
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:40,300
their capability to give tax receipts and then donate it to the R space. I think it's

600
00:57:40,300 --> 00:57:47,780
something I get that I set it up. But they would not be able to give. So if necessary,

601
00:57:47,780 --> 00:57:54,820
they need to go to another mechanism. And I will ask them to contact Gary, but we cannot give

602
00:57:54,820 --> 00:57:59,720
a tax receipts for five dollars. It needs to be a minimum. But I will bring it up in the next

603
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,120
meaning with our space. Okay.

604
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,220
Yes, Gordon.

605
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,240
Just for a little bit of context, what we learned

606
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,760
from our space and the letter that they wrote us was they were going to be fundraising using

607
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:23,380
a 5050 draw method and they received their license through PC gaming. So it was done more on a

608
00:58:23,380 --> 00:58:27,120
lottery system than individual donations. It's our understanding, but

609
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,100
based on my experience from

610
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,440
I'm trying to do fundraising for the HUB project.

611
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,840
I know how difficult the 50-50 methodology is

612
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,660
and that I would suspect that a large portion

613
00:58:41,660 --> 00:58:44,140
of that $25,000 is going to come from donations.

614
00:58:51,690 --> 00:58:52,550
Okay, moving on.

615
00:58:54,190 --> 00:58:55,230
Page 66,

616
00:58:58,340 --> 00:59:00,040
Japan A bench road paving.

617
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,340
Total of 350,000 from community works

618
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:05,700
and 100,000 from reserve.

619
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,040
Well, it's free.

620
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:39,540
Yeah, I'm just curious when we were discussing the reserves in the community works reserve had about $350,000 some was coming in about the same amount that's coming out just curious why this 100,000 is coming from a different reserve instead of from that reserve leaving it at $250,000 instead of leaving it at $350,000.

621
00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:45,780
Because the comment here is that next year when we get community works, it'll go from one

622
00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:46,300
to the other.

623
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:53,020
So I'm just curious why, since we are showing that there's going to be 350,000 in the community

624
00:59:53,020 --> 00:59:56,060
works reserved, why we just use it right now.

625
00:59:57,860 --> 00:59:59,980
It's an estimated balance. There are some other...

626
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
Projects that we funded from the community works fund that they're not complete yet. I don't know what funds will have available. So we want to manage that, but we want to get the project done this year. So that's the idea. It is my information that as soon as we prove this budget in principle, that the RFP would go out for Japan, your bench road so they can be done as soon as possible in the new year. And we have to wait for the community works fund anyway for a few more

627
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:36,740
months. So it's just to bring those months, but you want to start a project as soon as possible,

628
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:42,700
preferably beginning of spring. So it's finished together with the other ongoing

629
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,140
depending on your instruction works. So that's the intention.

630
01:00:50,520 --> 01:01:00,160
Okay, moving on, page 68. Facility maintenance. This is a $100,000 contribution to our facilities.

631
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,280
The

632
01:01:05,860 --> 01:01:10,920
AC replacement, HVAC, air-conditioning replacement for swim bay for state life car

633
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,320
station, $20,000 from grant funding.

634
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:25,920
Page 69, air-conditioning replacement for the 50-plus center, $15,000 from grant funding.

635
01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:33,160
Community center, HVAC replacement, $40,000 from grant funding.

636
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:39,520
page 71.

637
01:01:41,590 --> 01:01:46,310
Replace IT switches wireless access points in district facilities.

638
01:01:47,810 --> 01:01:49,450
$35,000 from Reserve.

639
01:01:56,890 --> 01:01:57,570
Page 73.

640
01:02:01,970 --> 01:02:08,790
This is a grant application for CE-PF.

641
01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:14,230
It's for turn out gear. $30,000 grant funding.

642
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:22,400
The utility 21 replacement, $200,000 donation revenue.

643
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:27,350
Page 75,

644
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,180
beach avenue bus stop benches, $10,000 from reserve.

645
01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:40,040
Beach avenue bike racks, $15,000 from reserve.

646
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:49,340
Page 76, speed monitor signs, $20,000 from reserve.

647
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:54,240
Yes, councilor vision.

648
01:02:54,900 --> 01:03:00,380
Thank you, Mr. Master, you to carry the speed monitor signs.

649
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:06,260
Are these the digital ones or these just speed signs just for clarification?

650
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,380
There are the digital ones that speed and we're going to make them mobile so we can move them around.

651
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:14,260
Because it's one of the biggest complaints we get from the community.

652
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,040
I'll be honest with you, when you have a speed limit of 30 kilometers per hour, it's pretty hard not to speed.

653
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:24,180
but so that's what it's for is some of those areas we've had some issues up at

654
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:28,680
Turner Park a part of that road so that's kind of the plan. I'm not sure it'll

655
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,960
solve all the problems but once people start seeing those signs maybe a little

656
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,900
adjusted behavior. Thank you.

657
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:43,180
Thank you Mr. Mayor have we applied to the road safety division at ICBC for grants

658
01:03:43,180 --> 01:03:47,440
for these things? I haven't I know that you if you talk to ICBC

659
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,480
We will.

660
01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:53,210
Yeah.

661
01:03:53,350 --> 01:03:56,570
Thank you, Councillor Gullah, for bringing that up, because ICBC does has money for this,

662
01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:01,430
so maybe if you buy for this, it will not need to reserve money.

663
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:09,570
Just to give them a little bit of a plug, the ICBC Road Safety Group is particularly effective

664
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:17,690
and its return on investment is something calculated in the order of 8 to 1, so if you've got

665
01:04:17,690 --> 01:04:20,950
a case to make, they will probably turn up the cash.

666
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,580
We move on.

667
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,560
The inquiry already took on.

668
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:29,160
No.

669
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:29,260
No.

670
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,120
No.

671
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:31,220
No.

672
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:31,860
No.

673
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,120
No.

674
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:34,480
No.

675
01:04:36,940 --> 01:04:37,420
No.

676
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:38,660
No.

677
01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:42,300
Council would like to ask some questions. I'm open to that.

678
01:04:45,110 --> 01:04:50,050
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, these are things we can wait until 27 to discuss, but I will

679
01:04:50,050 --> 01:04:52,650
look at my council if they have any other ideas about this.

680
01:04:59,060 --> 01:05:04,300
Council comments, very disassist, mean that on 13th, we're not doing anything for speed

681
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:08,540
or, we're not doing anything new for speed, they're not doing anything new for speed.

682
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Yes, these are new measures, correct?

683
01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:11,060
Yeah.

684
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:24,440
Yeah, the only ones I wanted to address are the bigger ticket items and wanted to understand.

685
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:33,360
So, you know, the DCC project, deferring that, what are the implications and the asset

686
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,820
management plan deferral again.

687
01:05:35,820 --> 01:05:41,140
And we definitely want to try to keep the tax increases low as possible.

688
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:46,720
But when we had that asset management meeting and we all looked at what we all just shook our head.

689
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:52,760
How bad the situation was and what we needed to start doing to fix it and

690
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,500
shook our heads at how prior councils were irresponsible by not doing anything.

691
01:05:57,660 --> 01:06:03,840
And I'm just concerned that we're admitting that we're going to be irresponsible by not doing anything ourselves.

692
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:12,100
and wonder, I just think we should discuss that a little bit because it's, first of all,

693
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,520
I don't think it's irresponsible. We still are in these DC projects and asset management,

694
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:24,540
we still need to go to a lot of discussions and we can, all the discussions will have a resolution

695
01:06:24,540 --> 01:06:31,000
going forward, but it can start in 2027. It doesn't need to start in 2026. We are taking our responsibility,

696
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,460
but there's a lot of work to do before it can even make these decisions.

697
01:06:35,260 --> 01:06:40,200
So whatever going to happen, it will be in the 2027 budget if we need it to be.

698
01:06:40,580 --> 01:06:41,660
Councillor Cone, Councillor Englisman.

699
01:06:42,980 --> 01:06:49,720
In defense of our councils, the presentation made some eight or ten years ago

700
01:06:50,420 --> 01:06:55,500
gave us three options in terms of amounts that we were putting in reserves

701
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,240
and the level of risk that we were prepared to undertake.

702
01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:10,700
it was a considered decision at the time that was unanimously supported. It may turn out because

703
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:19,460
of higher than anticipated inflation rates and supply chain increases that the cost of escalated

704
01:07:19,460 --> 01:07:25,640
beyond what was originally anticipated. But it wasn't a decision that was taken lightly at the time.

705
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:35,160
and I would suggest that it's appropriate to revisit it, but it was a considered decision.

706
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:45,390
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The second sentence and the paragraph under the plan recommendations

707
01:07:45,940 --> 01:07:49,450
actually does point out that the district currently invests $1 million annually.

708
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:54,570
So I think that is a line of dediligence that we are actually considering this.

709
01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:59,130
We are putting away funding for it, and should we get additional funding?

710
01:07:59,330 --> 01:08:03,230
Should we miraculously actually have a money tree that grows somewhere in town?

711
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:11,210
We may be able to add more to it, but at this point in time with the risk low versus

712
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:18,430
high, what we went through with that meeting, we're doing due diligence at minimum, which

713
01:08:18,430 --> 01:08:32,330
I think is key, not doing anything would put us in a far worse position, but I think doing anything more is going to actually put us into a financial strain that may impact other services that we require to have done.

714
01:08:33,630 --> 01:08:40,730
So I don't think we're neglecting this or we're not doing due diligence just by addressing that and that alone.

715
01:08:43,230 --> 01:08:47,010
Yes, I've been told to speak first, Council Member, yes, I can go, Joe.

716
01:08:48,030 --> 01:08:51,590
In my opening comments, it was round asset management.

717
01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:57,570
I missed the last meeting because I was deal with RCMP and I've told Jason I want to sit

718
01:08:57,570 --> 01:08:58,410
down and go through it.

719
01:08:58,930 --> 01:09:02,430
I mean, I think at the time they said we have a like a $6 million deficit or something

720
01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:02,810
like that.

721
01:09:02,890 --> 01:09:05,950
Anyway, well, that's in a perfect world where you're going to do everything.

722
01:09:05,950 --> 01:09:14,590
What we need to do is we need to spend much more time on that plan and come up with peach lands plan for asset management.

723
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:23,110
No community will ever be able to afford baby clona because they have two million bucks a year per one percent, but most misspellies can't afford it.

724
01:09:23,790 --> 01:09:32,210
I was actually hopeful that maybe by the time final budget comes around, depending on how things fall out, we might be able to put a little something in final budget.

725
01:09:32,210 --> 01:09:38,490
But our biggest thing is going to be to spend time trying to get grants to rebuild some of our very old

726
01:09:38,490 --> 01:09:43,430
Infrastructure I'll say buildings right we're going to be hopefully building new fire hall students

727
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:49,270
So that'll come off the asset management list with any luck someday somebody will want to build us a city hall for our land downtown

728
01:09:49,270 --> 01:09:53,950
So we're going to have to attack asset management from a bunch of different ways

729
01:09:53,950 --> 01:09:56,790
But we're not there yet because we haven't finalized

730
01:09:57,470 --> 01:10:03,430
Council's plan moving forward, so your marks are quite good, is that we need to focus on

731
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:07,130
it. Just give us a little bit more time until the plan's done and then we'll have to

732
01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:11,870
come up with a real good plan and the real good plan will have to include non-taxiation.

733
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:16,650
We'll have to get out there and hustle and get some more dough on asset management.

734
01:10:19,710 --> 01:10:23,670
I apologize if my words were a little bit too harsh initially but I just wanted to make

735
01:10:23,670 --> 01:10:32,170
that we discussed it because it is important and we're not going to be able to put a $7.7 million

736
01:10:32,170 --> 01:10:41,830
every year away but we need to be putting away more because as I recall from the general asset,

737
01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:48,230
renewal, reserve, we're taking out a little bit more than we're putting in this year so it's going

738
01:10:48,230 --> 01:10:55,170
actually going down a little bit and we have, I forget what the number was, whether it was

739
01:10:55,170 --> 01:10:59,950
8 million or 28 million dollars worth of assets right now that are already past their current

740
01:10:59,950 --> 01:11:09,150
lifetime so we're, I don't want us to run into situation where we avoid increasing the taxes this

741
01:11:09,150 --> 01:11:16,690
year and in a few years when something happens, we have to raise it 40% because we've hit that kind

742
01:11:16,690 --> 01:11:22,050
of a situation and just want to make sure we discuss it and if we're able to find something

743
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:26,470
to put into that asset management with that final budget, that would be a good thing.

744
01:11:27,890 --> 01:11:28,610
Thank you, Council.

745
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:30,790
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

746
01:11:31,090 --> 01:11:34,910
A little further to that discussion about asset management plan ideas.

747
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:41,910
What would be helpful from an annual budget reporting perspective would be to say, here's a number

748
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:43,170
of new housing units you have.

749
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:48,870
Here's the assessed total value of them and here's the additional tax revenue so you mentioned we had

750
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:54,310
30 new housing units in the last year approximately so as far as an asset management plan

751
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:58,770
We should be looking. Hey, here's the chunk of money. We got what percentage of that do you want to allocate

752
01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:07,650
Towards asset management planning, right? Because that's something municipalities do that leads to that discussion and there's that extra chunk of change

753
01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:11,790
That we could direct towards that on a on a percentage basis

754
01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:22,410
Right, on a final note, I think, as George mentioned, a lot of misbodies are in this case, they're there, okay.

755
01:12:23,730 --> 01:12:31,090
It will be up to our prevention and federal government to help out the small misbodies because we cannot, this burden, we cannot bear.

756
01:12:31,650 --> 01:12:37,610
So it's up to us to advocates and lobby for more money for our town when we need it.

757
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:42,050
And I think we've been doing a good job of that, we keep on doing that.

758
01:12:43,190 --> 01:12:48,070
sometimes you get the money sometimes you don't, but you need to keep the fire on their feet

759
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:54,070
and keep it going. I think for the moment that I'm seeing is that we're still quite good

760
01:12:55,490 --> 01:13:01,470
infrastructure for the next five years, so let's try to get more money from other sources and

761
01:13:01,470 --> 01:13:06,970
maybe other revenue streams and look at that and the post of the property taxes that come in extra

762
01:13:06,970 --> 01:13:11,530
maybe we could look at that and put a little bit more away into asset management

763
01:13:11,530 --> 01:13:26,870
And there are different things we're doing here, so that's just because in the next month when we finalize the asset management project and see where to come up with some ideas and not only us, if people have ideas, just bring them to us.

764
01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:30,750
Yeah, because we do not know everything, no, should we?

765
01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:34,750
but if people have some ideas that help auto communities,

766
01:13:34,990 --> 01:13:37,110
well, bring it to us and we will consider it.

767
01:13:37,610 --> 01:13:41,070
So, on that note, council go ahead and I'll go to Gary.

768
01:13:41,390 --> 01:13:41,970
Thanks, Mr. Mayor.

769
01:13:42,110 --> 01:13:45,030
Just wanted to mention, if you recall our meeting

770
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:46,350
with the Ministry of Environment,

771
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:49,770
they said they have emergency environmental funds

772
01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:52,490
in case we have a major burst of a sewer line

773
01:13:52,490 --> 01:13:53,810
or a pump that goes out.

774
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:57,890
So put that in your back pocket and keep that

775
01:13:57,890 --> 01:14:05,790
for when the rubber meets the road, right? It's funding, right? It's there. Thank you for

776
01:14:05,790 --> 01:14:14,270
reminding me. Go on, Gary. Thank you, Council, for that discussion. That's great and staff

777
01:14:14,270 --> 01:14:19,130
have been considering all those items. We have been contributing over the years as Councillor

778
01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:27,090
Condon noted and concert Gleism noted and that's the the annual funds that we took

779
01:14:27,090 --> 01:14:31,750
in parcel taxes put into taxation and that continues on this year we've got

780
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:36,030
a contribution of 448 but we're pulling out 405,000 so we've got a little bit

781
01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:41,250
left in there but some years we do take more and some so it's it's not a lot but

782
01:14:41,250 --> 01:14:46,090
that's that's our main source of funding you know same with the water and

783
01:14:46,090 --> 01:14:51,210
That will come that works out with our water rate review, you build in when you have to do some

784
01:14:51,210 --> 01:14:58,010
replacements, you're kind of building in into the rates early, different times. So that'll be

785
01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:59,970
discussion. The other thing I'm

786
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
I wanted to notice that this year for the first time since I've been here, we've got money for a budget for facility maintenance and that preventive maintenance will also help extend the life of some of the facilities that are raging. So that's going to be an ongoing amount. If we needed, it's there. If we don't need it, we don't spend it. But it's available for us. So that will help extend the life of some of the facilities as well. So I think collectively we're doing some

787
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:35,620
some good things. We're not going to hit the seven million a year, but we need to focus

788
01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:41,900
on the items that we need to fix immediately and we'll do that. So yeah, it'll be a good

789
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:44,680
discussion going forward. So thank you for that.

790
01:15:49,310 --> 01:15:50,710
Anything else in the P2s?

791
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:55,360
You can move

792
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:55,760
voluntary.

793
01:15:58,760 --> 01:15:59,060
All right.

794
01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:08,890
We're in to 83.

795
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:14,690
Yeah. A Bonnie Lane Pressure Reducing Station cost

796
01:16:14,690 --> 01:16:17,250
increase 450,000 firm reserve.

797
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:26,380
York Lane PRB Station 100,000 firm reserve this year. 900,000

798
01:16:26,380 --> 01:16:28,680
in 2027.

799
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:40,540
Page 84, water meter, water meter replacement on going request for another $500,000 from

800
01:16:40,540 --> 01:16:40,880
Reserve.

801
01:16:42,850 --> 01:16:47,930
There's just a question here, once this is done, is it 100% done, they're all replaced

802
01:16:48,450 --> 01:16:50,990
after this last investment or are still left?

803
01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:56,070
Still left, but and then in 15 years we'll start over.

804
01:16:57,050 --> 01:16:58,110
It's also common.

805
01:16:58,110 --> 01:17:01,770
Was any of this done under warranty?

806
01:17:06,010 --> 01:17:06,530
Before

807
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,100
Sean left, he indicated to me that some are under warranty and we are getting

808
01:17:14,740 --> 01:17:15,820
a deal outweigh.

809
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:16,480
So thank you.

810
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:19,030
Councillor Ewer.

811
01:17:19,870 --> 01:17:27,470
Do we have any kind of a feel for how replacing these water meters has actually improved our revenue

812
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:30,910
from water because of the ones that weren't working and everything?

813
01:17:30,910 --> 01:17:31,050
The

814
01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:38,090
meters as they get old and start to fail, they start reading low.

815
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:42,490
So you want to put, before that happens, you want to put your meters in because you're

816
01:17:42,490 --> 01:17:43,070
losing revenue.

817
01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:48,610
So I can tell you right now that our revenue will undoubtedly increase because it's going

818
01:17:48,610 --> 01:17:49,190
to read properly.

819
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:55,140
You can move on, Derek.

820
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:56,200
Okay, moving on,

821
01:17:58,380 --> 01:18:00,000
section E, sorry,

822
01:18:04,030 --> 01:18:05,730
section F, Utilities Budget,

823
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:14,940
page 90,

824
01:18:19,470 --> 01:18:20,290
this is the Peach

825
01:18:20,290 --> 01:18:25,770
John Creek, emergency response contingency plan, $20,000 from utility.

826
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:37,000
A little bit more explanation on what that is.

827
01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:42,820
Are we talking about the dam or are we just talking about the Elma the Lake, or what is that?

828
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:55,340
Three Mr. Mayor, so the emergency response and contingency plan is not for our dam, it's for a water system, and the health of our water system.

829
01:18:55,340 --> 01:18:58,240
and so how we're treating it at the plant, interior health,

830
01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:02,080
once regular updates on how we're managing our system.

831
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,540
Normally, this is something we could do in-house

832
01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:10,180
in slower times, and the $20,000 is to get assistance

833
01:19:10,180 --> 01:19:13,160
from consultants to completed in a timely fashion.

834
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,330
Are we there, Gary?

835
01:19:19,070 --> 01:19:21,070
Because I have nothing more left in my book.

836
01:19:21,970 --> 01:19:22,250
It's white.

837
01:19:22,370 --> 01:19:23,310
No, it's a pretty small book.

838
01:19:23,890 --> 01:19:25,430
I just want to bring up one thing.

839
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:31,930
so October 31st, we had a Mr. Moneybags came in. I was hoping he'd leave some money with us,

840
01:19:32,030 --> 01:19:33,530
but he didn't leave us any money.

841
01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:40,770
But we're hoping that would happen, but I did get some new shoes

842
01:19:40,770 --> 01:19:43,330
out of it. So, at least that. So,

843
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:49,390
that's it. We have no items to bring forward to this.

844
01:19:49,810 --> 01:19:56,010
No, for start items. I think Gary, I will speak for Danza. We're very happy with the budget.

845
01:19:56,010 --> 01:20:02,030
I think that when we had our workshop, we were very clear what we wanted, and it's clear

846
01:20:02,030 --> 01:20:04,250
to me that you did everything that we asked for.

847
01:20:05,090 --> 01:20:08,970
So I have Councillor Griezmann who will have a comment.

848
01:20:09,710 --> 01:20:11,050
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for you to carry.

849
01:20:12,530 --> 01:20:21,750
In the beginning of our book, you went over the fact that BC Assessment Authority has actually

850
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:28,330
decreased for 2026 horses 2025 and I do know that Councillor Condon had sent an email

851
01:20:28,330 --> 01:20:32,930
that wouldn't have been publicly provided or public information.

852
01:20:33,570 --> 01:20:41,230
Can you just give a brief explanation for our residents as to the theory behind property

853
01:20:41,230 --> 01:20:44,490
value decrease and taxation increase?

854
01:20:45,450 --> 01:20:50,570
Some people do truly believe that if their property taxes are sorry their property values

855
01:20:50,570 --> 01:20:55,670
are decreased, that means they shouldn't be required to pay as much in taxes, because

856
01:20:55,670 --> 01:21:01,930
they believe that increases are tied solely to values of property.

857
01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:06,690
So just for the general public, because I actually thought your explanation that you gave

858
01:21:06,690 --> 01:21:10,670
to the council was wonderful, and I really think that's something that should actually go

859
01:21:10,670 --> 01:21:11,290
out to the public.

860
01:21:13,050 --> 01:21:15,470
Okay, I can have a coffee here.

861
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:15,730
I can.

862
01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:16,230
Wonderful.

863
01:21:16,230 --> 01:21:17,310
default, repeat that.

864
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:24,480
An overall decrease in property assessment value does not have any impact on what needs

865
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,400
to be collected through property taxes.

866
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:32,180
The fluctuation and average house price only impacts the distribution of property taxes.

867
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,920
If the residential assessment average decreases, then properties with an assessment increase

868
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:43,340
or even a decrease that is smaller than the average decrease will experience a higher than

869
01:21:43,340 --> 01:21:45,080
average increase in property taxes.

870
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,120
So, there's many factors that go into it.

871
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,100
It's not based on assessed value.

872
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:59,980
Based on the assessment values from the BC Assessment Preview Roll, dated October 31, 2025, residential property values have declined overall.

873
01:22:00,700 --> 01:22:08,920
While other property classes, mostly business, have increased, which places more tax burden on these classes and less on residential.

874
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:14,560
Additionally, for this year, we added more residential properties, 30 properties.

875
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:22,140
That's the most I've seen since I've been here, and I'm happy to see that, because it lessens the impact for others, eh?

876
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:31,020
So this increase in tax will, so that is why the 4.87 results in an estimated increase of 3.8 for the average residential property.

877
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:37,140
Since business Israel allocated a larger percentage of the overall burden, and the residential

878
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:40,380
properties are sharing across more individual properties.

879
01:22:41,700 --> 01:22:46,040
The size of the pie is determined by the budget, and the residential slice is smaller than

880
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,940
last year and split between more properties.

881
01:22:50,780 --> 01:22:52,680
So thank you for the explanation.

882
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:59,440
Seeing no more questions, I'm going to ask for extra information of a mover.

883
01:23:00,060 --> 01:23:01,980
Councilor Ingram, we don't need a second there, all in favor.

884
01:23:03,140 --> 01:23:05,480
And then it's on our agenda for this afternoon.

885
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:06,820
So thank you Gary.

886
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:13,040
Thank you to everyone who took part in this budget and we'll see each other at 3PM.

887
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:14,260
Thank you.

888
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:15,440
adjourned.