1 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:10,166 - Alright, justing on. 2 00:00:10,166 --> 00:00:10,667 You ready? 3 00:00:30,033 --> 00:00:31,033 Yeah. Pass I guess. 4 00:00:36,033 --> 00:00:40,166 Good evening everyone. Please come in, take a seat, 5 00:00:40,233 --> 00:00:41,266 make yourself comfortable. 6 00:00:42,133 --> 00:00:44,000 Welcome to the Master Planning 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,166 Committee, Public Hearing. 8 00:00:50,934 --> 00:00:52,033 The purpose of this evening is 9 00:00:52,033 --> 00:00:54,133 to get your input in the master plan. 10 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:57,700 The master planning committee has done our best 11 00:00:58,266 --> 00:00:59,867 to capture ideas 12 00:01:00,066 --> 00:01:03,000 and thoughts about how we'd like to 13 00:01:03,734 --> 00:01:06,834 formulate the plan for moving forward with the town. 14 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:10,867 But we're always looking for more input from citizens 15 00:01:10,934 --> 00:01:12,734 and more involvement from citizens. 16 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:17,634 I have to say, I, I wanted to do this in the big, in the, 17 00:01:17,634 --> 00:01:19,900 in a big way when I got involved with the town. 18 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,834 'cause I had done this type of planning before. 19 00:01:23,233 --> 00:01:26,000 One of the things, my, my goal was, was to try to 20 00:01:27,667 --> 00:01:30,000 increase engagement and then do things 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,033 that were gonna benefit citizens of the town. 22 00:01:34,634 --> 00:01:39,033 So with that, I'm gonna turn it over to VHB, 23 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:41,367 who's gonna manage the meeting? 24 00:01:43,066 --> 00:01:46,567 - Thank you, Stefan. Thank you everybody for coming. 25 00:01:46,567 --> 00:01:48,734 Welcome to the the second meeting 26 00:01:48,834 --> 00:01:50,934 for the Pembroke Master plans, the second 27 00:01:51,066 --> 00:01:53,100 and last meeting of the master planning process. 28 00:01:53,834 --> 00:01:56,634 We're really thankful to have community members, all 29 00:01:56,634 --> 00:01:57,900 of you here with us tonight. 30 00:01:58,133 --> 00:02:00,133 Members of the Master Plan Collaboration Committee, 31 00:02:01,066 --> 00:02:03,333 additional community members that are joining us online. 32 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:05,567 This is a hybrid meeting as well 33 00:02:05,567 --> 00:02:06,867 as members of the planning board. 34 00:02:06,867 --> 00:02:09,166 So thank you for taking the time to, to be here 35 00:02:09,166 --> 00:02:11,000 and provide your feedback with us tonight. 36 00:02:11,467 --> 00:02:14,700 Just to give you a quick overview of the meeting structure, 37 00:02:15,133 --> 00:02:17,467 I'll introduce the consultant team as well 38 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:18,567 as the collaboration committee. 39 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:23,634 We'll give an overview of the master plan elements, 40 00:02:23,634 --> 00:02:24,667 which include land use 41 00:02:24,667 --> 00:02:27,867 and development patterns, housing, economic development, 42 00:02:28,166 --> 00:02:31,000 historic and cultural resources, natural resources, 43 00:02:31,066 --> 00:02:34,000 public facilities and services, and transportation 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,567 and mobility, which you'll notice each master plan element 45 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:38,834 has a corresponding station around the room 46 00:02:38,834 --> 00:02:40,433 for the interactive portion of the meeting. 47 00:02:41,433 --> 00:02:44,033 We'll talk about next steps in terms of implementation 48 00:02:44,066 --> 00:02:46,033 for the plan once it's complete, 49 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:50,233 and we'll have an interactive session where we can walk 50 00:02:50,233 --> 00:02:52,467 around and provide feedback on 51 00:02:52,467 --> 00:02:53,734 what we'll present to you tonight. 52 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:58,266 So with that, we have the Master Plan Collaboration 53 00:02:58,266 --> 00:02:59,834 Committee with us, with us tonight. 54 00:03:00,333 --> 00:03:03,000 They guided and oversaw the master planning process, 55 00:03:04,066 --> 00:03:07,233 provided perspectives from different departments within the 56 00:03:07,233 --> 00:03:10,033 town, and we're really grateful for all 57 00:03:10,033 --> 00:03:11,033 of their contributions 58 00:03:11,033 --> 00:03:12,233 and oversight throughout this process. 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,033 And VHB we're here, the consulting team, 60 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:20,500 which includes Luke Mitchell, project manager, myself, 61 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,300 Julia Minz, deputy project manager. 62 00:03:22,934 --> 00:03:25,867 We have Jennifer Nelson, who's with our online participants, 63 00:03:26,100 --> 00:03:27,100 was a project planner. 64 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:31,133 And we had several subject matter experts from within our 65 00:03:31,133 --> 00:03:34,000 team at VHB who gave their expertise to this plan. 66 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:38,734 So with that, we'll give a a general overview 67 00:03:38,834 --> 00:03:39,867 of the master plan. 68 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:43,100 One of the first steps of this process 69 00:03:43,867 --> 00:03:45,700 through community engagement was 70 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:49,033 to develop a shared community vision, which is a high level 71 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:53,000 perspective of, of where the town would like 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,734 to see itself in the future. 73 00:03:55,233 --> 00:03:56,266 So, I'll read this out. 74 00:03:56,333 --> 00:04:00,066 I know the text is a bit small, located in the heart 75 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:01,100 of the South Shore. 76 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:04,066 The town of Pembroke will invest in its greatest assets 77 00:04:04,233 --> 00:04:06,266 and continue to be an excellent place to live 78 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,333 as a community, rich in history 79 00:04:08,367 --> 00:04:09,867 and with a vibrant population. 80 00:04:10,367 --> 00:04:13,133 Its distinct quality of life is rooted in its close 81 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:14,367 knit and welcoming culture. 82 00:04:15,367 --> 00:04:17,867 The town will be responsible stewards of the land, 83 00:04:17,934 --> 00:04:20,467 having long demonstrated a commitment to preserving 84 00:04:20,467 --> 00:04:22,333 and protecting its unique, natural, 85 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:25,634 and open space resources to enhance wellness, 86 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,333 connectivity, and quality of life. 87 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:29,734 The town will create community spaces, 88 00:04:30,166 --> 00:04:32,867 provide unique recreational amenities and events, 89 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:34,533 and expand programming 90 00:04:34,533 --> 00:04:36,567 and services to improve resident's ability 91 00:04:36,634 --> 00:04:38,133 to lead active and healthy lives. 92 00:04:39,066 --> 00:04:41,333 Pembroke will enhance and encourage walkability 93 00:04:41,634 --> 00:04:43,767 and other non-motorized forms of transportation 94 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:46,266 and will focus on creative placemaking. 95 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,300 Citizens will continue to enjoy a feeling of safety 96 00:04:50,567 --> 00:04:53,533 and security throughout the town, supported by modern 97 00:04:53,634 --> 00:04:55,634 and readily available emergency services. 98 00:04:56,634 --> 00:04:58,500 Young and growing families will be further 99 00:04:58,934 --> 00:05:01,000 provided with a quality education for their children. 100 00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:03,834 Seniors will benefit from a robust network 101 00:05:03,867 --> 00:05:07,500 of support systems and services throughout the year. 102 00:05:07,834 --> 00:05:09,867 Pembroke will conduct support 103 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,033 or encourage various exhibits, events, 104 00:05:12,133 --> 00:05:13,533 and programming that preserves 105 00:05:13,533 --> 00:05:15,266 and celebrates its history and culture. 106 00:05:16,233 --> 00:05:17,934 Pembroke will support sustainable 107 00:05:17,934 --> 00:05:20,133 and mindful growth in strategic locations, 108 00:05:21,066 --> 00:05:23,000 encouraging residential development that responds 109 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,333 to local housing needs and commercial development 110 00:05:25,333 --> 00:05:28,100 that strengthens the local economy and creates jobs. 111 00:05:29,066 --> 00:05:31,000 Hubs of activity like the town center 112 00:05:31,066 --> 00:05:33,367 and the Route three commercial district will be enhanced 113 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:35,734 to support a vibrant mixed use environment 114 00:05:35,734 --> 00:05:37,066 for residents and visitors. 115 00:05:37,734 --> 00:05:39,367 There will be a visible improvement 116 00:05:39,367 --> 00:05:42,033 to pembroke's public facilities, utilities, and services. 117 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:45,700 And the town's boards will establish new protocols 118 00:05:45,867 --> 00:05:47,066 for effective communication 119 00:05:47,567 --> 00:05:49,934 and decision making while considering their effects 120 00:05:50,066 --> 00:05:51,000 on future generation. 121 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:54,867 So this statement is guided by feedback 122 00:05:54,867 --> 00:05:57,000 that we heard throughout the planning process from the 123 00:05:57,033 --> 00:06:00,100 community, input from stakeholders 124 00:06:00,233 --> 00:06:03,066 and represents a, a shared vision for the town's future. 125 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:07,100 And with that, I'm gonna pass it over to Luke Mitchell, 126 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,634 who's gonna talk about the goals 127 00:06:09,734 --> 00:06:11,767 and actions at a high level from the master plan. 128 00:06:16,867 --> 00:06:19,533 - Thank you, Julia. Yeah, 129 00:06:19,533 --> 00:06:22,867 so the draft comp comprehensive plan was a collaborative 130 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:27,734 effort, and we relied on input from the steering committee, 131 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,367 the stakeholders that we met with early on in the process. 132 00:06:33,033 --> 00:06:36,634 The online community survey, thanks to everyone who took 133 00:06:36,634 --> 00:06:41,000 that early on and face-to-face interaction with, 134 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:45,333 with you the community in, in several settings. 135 00:06:46,233 --> 00:06:49,834 So for each of the plans, seven chapters, we prepared goals. 136 00:06:50,634 --> 00:06:53,934 And for each goal, we prepared several actions 137 00:06:53,934 --> 00:06:56,734 that can be carried out to implement the community's vision. 138 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:03,000 All told there are almost 200 actions, 139 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:06,634 approximately 200 actions, so I won't go through all 140 00:07:06,634 --> 00:07:08,000 of the actions now. 141 00:07:09,433 --> 00:07:12,467 You can read about the actions at each of the stations. 142 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,233 What I, what I can do now is go through at, 143 00:07:15,233 --> 00:07:18,533 at a very high level the goals that are associated 144 00:07:18,533 --> 00:07:19,767 with each of the chapters. 145 00:07:23,266 --> 00:07:27,266 So first is on land use and development patterns. 146 00:07:29,133 --> 00:07:31,934 Pembroke is a, is a great town that has a lot 147 00:07:31,934 --> 00:07:33,100 of great public spaces. 148 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:35,567 At the same time, we heard a lot 149 00:07:35,567 --> 00:07:38,300 of comments from the community that some of these spaces 150 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:42,066 could be improved through strategic and investments 151 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:44,834 and in, in certain cases new development. 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,266 So in terms of goals, 153 00:07:48,867 --> 00:07:51,100 several go goals came out of this assessment. 154 00:07:51,066 --> 00:07:53,066 First is the town center. 155 00:07:54,333 --> 00:07:57,734 There's a lot of affinity for the town center in Pembroke. 156 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,567 And, and the town center is gonna take on new life 157 00:08:01,767 --> 00:08:04,033 with the completion of the community center 158 00:08:04,834 --> 00:08:09,133 and potentially with the new housing that that comes online. 159 00:08:10,433 --> 00:08:12,934 So as the town center continues to evolve, 160 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,066 the town can take concrete steps to update zoning 161 00:08:17,133 --> 00:08:19,000 and land use regulations that allow 162 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,734 for an even more vibrant space than you have now 163 00:08:22,734 --> 00:08:23,834 with new businesses 164 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:28,000 and new fun things to do, things that can be used to, 165 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,066 to bring the community together. 166 00:08:30,166 --> 00:08:31,867 Second, is the 167 00:08:32,333 --> 00:08:35,033 commercial district located at the intersection 168 00:08:35,033 --> 00:08:37,266 of Route three and, and Route 1 39. 169 00:08:38,467 --> 00:08:40,066 We enjoyed getting to know this district. 170 00:08:40,266 --> 00:08:42,834 It is not an unsuccessful district. 171 00:08:42,834 --> 00:08:45,700 There's a lot of thriving businesses that are located there 172 00:08:47,133 --> 00:08:50,033 and that, that fill the properties throughout that district. 173 00:08:50,133 --> 00:08:52,000 However, like the town center, 174 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,934 that district could use an update in terms of the, under 175 00:08:57,367 --> 00:09:01,634 the land use regulatory framework that underpins it. 176 00:09:03,367 --> 00:09:06,100 That can be used to continue to attract sort 177 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:08,467 of next level job creating businesses 178 00:09:08,467 --> 00:09:09,533 and boost the tax base. 179 00:09:10,634 --> 00:09:13,500 Third is vacant and underutilized parcels. 180 00:09:14,734 --> 00:09:17,700 There are properties like this throughout town, some 181 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:19,533 of which are owned by the town. 182 00:09:20,533 --> 00:09:25,500 Pembroke can identify these sites, identify potential uses 183 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:29,834 for those sites, and then market opport development 184 00:09:29,834 --> 00:09:31,000 opportunities at those sites 185 00:09:32,066 --> 00:09:33,700 within the development community. 186 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:36,634 There's several towns in the regions that have done 187 00:09:36,634 --> 00:09:39,367 that successfully that, that you could borrow ideas from. 188 00:09:40,634 --> 00:09:43,734 Finally, in general, zoning and permitting procedures. 189 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,533 New investment in Pembroke is important 190 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:52,000 as it supports the tax base and, and creates jobs locally. 191 00:09:53,166 --> 00:09:56,000 So the town will take a close look at current zoning 192 00:09:56,033 --> 00:10:00,100 regulations and permitting procedures to ensure that in, 193 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:03,133 to ensure an efficient process that appeals 194 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:04,934 to developers while still protecting 195 00:10:04,934 --> 00:10:06,000 the community's interests. 196 00:10:08,367 --> 00:10:11,500 Chapter two is on pembroke's housing. 197 00:10:12,834 --> 00:10:15,533 Housing has always been an important consideration 198 00:10:15,634 --> 00:10:19,567 for policy makers, but over the past year 199 00:10:19,667 --> 00:10:22,567 or two, it feels really front and center 200 00:10:23,333 --> 00:10:25,033 and it's getting a lot of real estate in the 201 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:26,133 newspaper every day. 202 00:10:28,133 --> 00:10:32,767 Inflation, high interest rates, supply chain issues, 203 00:10:33,066 --> 00:10:36,567 construction costs have created something of a perfect storm 204 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:40,634 and, and the cost of housing for owners for renters has, 205 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:42,066 has really gotten quite high. 206 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:47,834 So PEM broke needs to be intentional in 207 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:52,634 how it treats housing over the next 15 years to keep pace 208 00:10:52,667 --> 00:10:55,033 with the community's changing housing needs. 209 00:10:56,667 --> 00:11:01,033 So, goals that came out of the housing assessment First is 210 00:11:01,033 --> 00:11:03,734 to update the town's housing production plan. 211 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:07,734 The last time the town prepared a housing production plan 212 00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:09,033 was in 2018. 213 00:11:09,867 --> 00:11:14,000 When you think about what's changed since 2018 in the 214 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,266 housing market, it's a lot. 215 00:11:16,266 --> 00:11:18,834 So it underscores the need to update that, 216 00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:20,066 that housing production plan. 217 00:11:21,634 --> 00:11:25,000 Second goal is to meet the housing needs of young families 218 00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:26,100 and individuals. 219 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:30,266 Young households offer for the community, people 220 00:11:30,333 --> 00:11:33,934 who are active in the workforce as well as students to help 221 00:11:34,333 --> 00:11:36,266 continue strong enrollment in the schools. 222 00:11:37,166 --> 00:11:39,233 So this segment of the population is drawn 223 00:11:39,233 --> 00:11:43,033 to specific housing types, so that's a priority. 224 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:45,066 Third, the town must continue 225 00:11:45,066 --> 00:11:47,500 to accommodate the housing needs of seniors, 226 00:11:47,667 --> 00:11:49,834 which is a growing share of the population. 227 00:11:51,433 --> 00:11:55,266 Fourth is infrastructure, specifically as it relates to 228 00:11:55,934 --> 00:11:57,734 housing and how it supports housing. 229 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:02,333 So that includes transportation infrastructure, like roads, 230 00:12:03,333 --> 00:12:06,033 but also potentially new ways 231 00:12:06,033 --> 00:12:08,300 of providing utilities like water 232 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:10,634 and sewer to support developments. 233 00:12:12,433 --> 00:12:15,100 And lastly, the town will align future residential 234 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:17,300 investment with commercial development goals. 235 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,700 It's important to achieve the right balance 236 00:12:19,734 --> 00:12:23,100 between those land uses so that they can continue 237 00:12:23,166 --> 00:12:24,567 to support each other. 238 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,266 Chapter three is on economic development. 239 00:12:30,934 --> 00:12:33,266 For many people who live in Pembroke, Pembroke is what, 240 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:35,734 what you could call a bedroom community, right? 241 00:12:36,333 --> 00:12:38,100 With lots of residential districts 242 00:12:38,367 --> 00:12:40,266 and a somewhat limited amount 243 00:12:40,433 --> 00:12:42,500 of commercial districts and businesses. 244 00:12:43,867 --> 00:12:46,000 There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that. 245 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,834 However, it means that you have something 246 00:12:48,834 --> 00:12:52,100 of a lopsided balance within the tax structure 247 00:12:52,667 --> 00:12:56,100 with residential, with residents paying, 248 00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:01,066 or, sorry, with most of the tax burden being placed on 249 00:13:01,567 --> 00:13:02,700 residents instead of businesses. 250 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:05,300 So for that reason, it's critical to to 251 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,233 continue supporting a thriving local economy. 252 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:11,066 Goals associated with this chapter. 253 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:14,133 First goal is to promote development 254 00:13:14,133 --> 00:13:15,634 that boosts the tax base 255 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:18,233 and increases the availability of jobs. 256 00:13:19,467 --> 00:13:21,300 This will have a, a positive impact, 257 00:13:21,467 --> 00:13:23,066 impact on everyone in the community. 258 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,066 Second is to support the local workforce. 259 00:13:29,133 --> 00:13:33,000 This can include classes, training programs, partnerships 260 00:13:34,066 --> 00:13:35,367 to make sure that the residents 261 00:13:35,367 --> 00:13:39,066 of Pembroke have the skills needed to become 262 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:42,767 or stay gainfully employed, sometimes locally. 263 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:47,734 Third, is to encourage younger people 264 00:13:47,834 --> 00:13:49,634 and families to move to Pembroke. 265 00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:51,066 This goal will sound familiar. 266 00:13:51,066 --> 00:13:53,700 There's a similar goal in the housing chapter, 267 00:13:55,133 --> 00:13:56,634 but it, it's important for housing 268 00:13:56,734 --> 00:14:00,133 and it's important for the community and the economy. 269 00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:04,066 Fourth is to strengthen the network of local businesses. 270 00:14:05,066 --> 00:14:06,834 Any business owner will tell you 271 00:14:07,033 --> 00:14:09,100 that even though they compete with one another, 272 00:14:09,133 --> 00:14:10,867 they also rely on one another. 273 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,934 And there's some, some great interaction already. 274 00:14:14,567 --> 00:14:17,734 So the goal here is to build on, on that partnership. 275 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,133 Fifth goal is to promote 276 00:14:22,166 --> 00:14:24,133 and manage tourism in Pembroke. 277 00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:26,934 So tourism brings dollars from 278 00:14:26,934 --> 00:14:28,767 outside the community into the community. 279 00:14:29,934 --> 00:14:33,266 So, great if Pembroke can really lean into this. 280 00:14:33,333 --> 00:14:35,300 And this ties into other chapters as well. 281 00:14:36,734 --> 00:14:39,533 And finally, is grant opportunities. 282 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:44,567 Most every town in the state relies heavily on grant funding 283 00:14:45,066 --> 00:14:47,767 from the state in order to build infrastructure, 284 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:52,467 to do planning studies and to advance its goals. 285 00:14:53,333 --> 00:14:58,066 So the idea here is that Pembroke can evolve its process of, 286 00:14:58,133 --> 00:15:00,934 of how it, it treats the process of going 287 00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:03,100 after grant funding and making sure 288 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,000 that it's done efficiently and effectively. 289 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,867 Because at the end of the day, with 351 290 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:11,734 cities and towns throughout the state, there's a lot 291 00:15:11,734 --> 00:15:13,533 of competition for for those grant dollars. 292 00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:21,734 The fourth chapter is on historic and cultural resources. 293 00:15:23,033 --> 00:15:24,767 The work of preserving history 294 00:15:24,767 --> 00:15:27,467 and culture is carried out locally by several groups, 295 00:15:28,367 --> 00:15:30,767 including the Pembroke Historic Commission, 296 00:15:31,066 --> 00:15:35,066 the Pembroke Historical Society, Pembroke Cultural Council, 297 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:37,033 and the CPA committee. 298 00:15:38,934 --> 00:15:42,867 The town has several great designated historic assets along 299 00:15:42,867 --> 00:15:46,000 with many other historic assets that have 300 00:15:46,667 --> 00:15:48,266 been officially documented. 301 00:15:49,734 --> 00:15:52,367 And throughout the calendar year, the town sponsors several 302 00:15:53,066 --> 00:15:54,066 really well attended 303 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:56,834 and fun events that are integral to the town's culture. 304 00:16:00,367 --> 00:16:03,000 So goals for historic and cultural resources. 305 00:16:03,166 --> 00:16:07,033 First goal is to empower the local stewards of history 306 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:10,367 and culture to do even more than they're currently doing, 307 00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:11,867 which is a lot to begin with. 308 00:16:12,567 --> 00:16:15,333 But if, but if they can have expanded programming, that 309 00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:16,333 that would be a great thing. 310 00:16:17,033 --> 00:16:20,033 Second, Pembroke will expand upon its 311 00:16:20,867 --> 00:16:22,300 documented historic resources. 312 00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:26,700 There are many historically significant properties 313 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:30,066 that haven't yet been documented, including a wide array 314 00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:33,767 of properties from the 20th century that, that have a lot 315 00:16:33,767 --> 00:16:35,333 of value and should be considered. 316 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:40,100 Pembroke also needs to leverage this history 317 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:43,567 and culture to foster a stronger sense of place in Pembroke. 318 00:16:44,734 --> 00:16:47,000 This can be accomplished through education 319 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:49,000 and information campaigns. 320 00:16:50,333 --> 00:16:54,100 And finally, the town will work to promote stronger links 321 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:56,867 between historic preservation and economic development. 322 00:16:57,066 --> 00:17:01,300 Because when done right, preserving history can have a, 323 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:05,100 a profoundly positive impact on the economy. 324 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:09,133 Fifth chapter is on natural resources. 325 00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:13,867 So Pembroke, as you all know, has a, a broad array 326 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:18,333 of pristine natural settings and open space amenities. 327 00:17:20,033 --> 00:17:23,033 This includes both town owned properties 328 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:25,233 and privately owned properties, some 329 00:17:25,233 --> 00:17:26,934 of which are publicly accessible. 330 00:17:28,133 --> 00:17:31,467 So these publicly accessible open space resources can be 331 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:35,734 used by residents for active recreation and, and, 332 00:17:35,867 --> 00:17:37,100 and passive recreation. 333 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,100 As we prepared this chapter of the master plan, 334 00:17:41,133 --> 00:17:44,000 we leaned heavily on the recently completed 335 00:17:44,634 --> 00:17:47,367 Pembroke open space plan, which I think was from last year, 336 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:49,700 which was a great plan. 337 00:17:49,867 --> 00:17:51,367 So a a lot of, of, of 338 00:17:51,367 --> 00:17:54,100 what we have in this chapter echoes that planning process. 339 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:59,133 The first goal for natural resources is 340 00:17:59,166 --> 00:18:02,500 to protect water resources, open spaces and, 341 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:03,834 and agricultural lands. 342 00:18:04,567 --> 00:18:06,000 This can be accomplished 343 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,467 through several concrete actions such 344 00:18:08,467 --> 00:18:11,033 as up updating the zoning bylaws 345 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,367 and making strategic property acquisitions 346 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:16,033 to support preservation efforts. 347 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,233 Second is to expand connectivity within the 348 00:18:21,233 --> 00:18:22,567 town's various natural spaces. 349 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:25,867 A couple of dimensions to that. 350 00:18:26,567 --> 00:18:30,066 One is wildlife connections, identifying 351 00:18:31,066 --> 00:18:32,634 wildlife corridors and making sure 352 00:18:32,634 --> 00:18:34,834 that they're protected and supported. 353 00:18:35,767 --> 00:18:38,734 And then on the other hand, you also have recreational 354 00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:40,500 and programmatic connections 355 00:18:40,667 --> 00:18:43,533 and tie-ins between parks and trail systems. 356 00:18:43,667 --> 00:18:46,033 In other words, how are the people using the space 357 00:18:46,033 --> 00:18:47,634 and making sure that that's well connected. 358 00:18:48,767 --> 00:18:52,266 Third goal is to improve accessibility in the open spaces. 359 00:18:52,433 --> 00:18:55,367 In Pembroke, we heard a lot about this from people making 360 00:18:55,433 --> 00:18:59,100 sure that regardless of someone's level of ability, 361 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:02,867 they're able to access these, these great spaces. 362 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,300 Fourth is about stewardship. 363 00:19:07,533 --> 00:19:11,467 Natural assets will certainly best be protected if there is 364 00:19:11,533 --> 00:19:12,834 a strong awareness of 365 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:17,333 and sense of shared responsibility for these assets. 366 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:22,567 Fifth, maintaining and an and enhancing partnerships. 367 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:26,734 There's several local and regional associations 368 00:19:26,834 --> 00:19:29,333 and trusts that we've learned about during the process, 369 00:19:30,133 --> 00:19:31,700 which are doing great work. 370 00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:36,100 So really the actions on this goal are just the town can 371 00:19:36,467 --> 00:19:40,300 continue to deepen those partnerships with those agencies 372 00:19:40,367 --> 00:19:44,000 and organizations to make sure 373 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,467 that those spaces are protected. 374 00:19:45,934 --> 00:19:49,000 Lastly is grant funding. 375 00:19:49,467 --> 00:19:52,333 Again, this is echoes from a previous chapter, 376 00:19:52,567 --> 00:19:55,700 but the town can build upon its methods of pursuing state 377 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:59,000 and federal funds to support these natural 378 00:19:59,333 --> 00:20:00,467 resource initiatives. 379 00:20:02,767 --> 00:20:05,500 Chapter six is Public facilities and services. 380 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:09,867 This covers the towns, schools, administrative buildings, 381 00:20:10,066 --> 00:20:13,467 library, emergency service buildings, 382 00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:17,834 recreational facilities, roads, utilities, and other assets. 383 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:21,000 In addition to which the ser the many services 384 00:20:21,033 --> 00:20:24,033 that the town offers, we took a, 385 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,734 a close look at existing conditions 386 00:20:25,734 --> 00:20:27,000 and had several conversations 387 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,100 to identify the town's most pressing goals 388 00:20:29,166 --> 00:20:30,467 for facilities and services. 389 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:34,934 First on the list 390 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,000 of goals is the town's infrastructure like roads, utilities, 391 00:20:39,033 --> 00:20:43,033 equipment, and it, the town will work 392 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:45,467 to advance the approach to maintenance 393 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,734 and upgrades of these critical resources. 394 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:50,000 Of course, this is something the town already does, 395 00:20:50,033 --> 00:20:53,133 but the idea here is to take a look at at how that's done 396 00:20:53,166 --> 00:20:58,033 and, and is how can it be made as efficient as possible. 397 00:20:59,333 --> 00:21:02,700 The second is staffing so that the town will continue 398 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:03,934 to be intentional about 399 00:21:03,934 --> 00:21:07,133 how its staffing resources can be best aligned, 400 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:09,567 leveraging the great staff 401 00:21:09,634 --> 00:21:11,367 that the town already has in place. 402 00:21:12,867 --> 00:21:14,266 Third, how does the town 403 00:21:14,266 --> 00:21:16,233 government interact with the community? 404 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,300 This comes up in so many of the towns that we work with. 405 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,567 Despite all these advances in tech, 406 00:21:22,567 --> 00:21:24,367 in communication technology, 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,100 it can still be such a challenge for the town government 408 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,700 to communicate effectively with the community. 409 00:21:32,133 --> 00:21:34,867 Having A-P-A-C-T-V who's, 410 00:21:34,867 --> 00:21:36,767 who's really helped pull this meeting together 411 00:21:36,767 --> 00:21:38,066 tonight is, is a great benefit. 412 00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:42,033 So building on resources like that is, is a good start. 413 00:21:43,834 --> 00:21:46,834 Fourth is the school buildings in Pembroke, 414 00:21:48,367 --> 00:21:49,367 like any building, 415 00:21:49,567 --> 00:21:53,000 the school buildings in Pembroke need a continual 416 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,100 care and maintenance. 417 00:21:54,734 --> 00:21:56,333 And also upgrades 418 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:59,066 as educational philosophy continues to evolve. 419 00:22:00,066 --> 00:22:03,367 So those needs will be addressed methodically 420 00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:06,000 and with purpose intentionally over the, 421 00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:07,233 the coming 15 years. 422 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:10,634 Fifth is the library system. 423 00:22:11,834 --> 00:22:14,000 I spent some time here in the library working 424 00:22:14,467 --> 00:22:15,500 about six months ago, 425 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:17,000 and I, I thought it was a awesome space. 426 00:22:17,033 --> 00:22:21,000 I really enjoyed it. So moving forward, 427 00:22:21,166 --> 00:22:25,233 the library can continue to benefit from programming 428 00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:26,500 that's expanded even further 429 00:22:27,634 --> 00:22:30,066 to serve various user groups from the community. 430 00:22:31,266 --> 00:22:33,834 Lastly, generally speaking is about the needs 431 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,834 of the town's seniors, specifically in relation to 432 00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:39,767 programming and services. 433 00:22:42,767 --> 00:22:45,300 Last chapter of the master plan 434 00:22:46,133 --> 00:22:48,333 is on transportation and mobility. 435 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,834 Given pembroke's rural dash suburban development profile, 436 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,000 the automobile is still the primary mode 437 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,100 of transportation here in Pembroke. 438 00:23:01,033 --> 00:23:03,634 So because of that, it's, it's absolutely critical 439 00:23:03,634 --> 00:23:06,033 that roadway infrastructure is maintained 440 00:23:06,233 --> 00:23:10,000 and also upgraded with consideration given 441 00:23:10,133 --> 00:23:12,000 to safety and efficiency. 442 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,734 A lot of that ties back into the, the need to evolve 443 00:23:16,467 --> 00:23:19,033 the process for soliciting grant money from the state. 444 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:24,000 A lot, a lot of that work is paid by the state in addition 445 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,033 to the roads for vehicles, infrastructure for pedestrians 446 00:23:28,333 --> 00:23:32,100 and bicyclists and those who wish to, to have connections 447 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:36,000 to public transit are should also be prioritized. 448 00:23:36,834 --> 00:23:40,000 So goals for transportation, first 449 00:23:41,166 --> 00:23:42,934 bike lanes and sidewalks. 450 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,500 In 2018, the town prepared a bike and ped connectivity 451 00:23:47,567 --> 00:23:48,767 and livability study. 452 00:23:49,634 --> 00:23:50,767 This was a great start. 453 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,233 I think after five 454 00:23:52,233 --> 00:23:55,100 and a half years it, it, it probably due for a refresh 455 00:23:56,133 --> 00:23:57,867 and take a close look at that and really, 456 00:23:57,867 --> 00:24:00,066 and really lean into those objectives. 457 00:24:01,233 --> 00:24:05,834 Second is roadway conditions within the vicinity of schools. 458 00:24:06,367 --> 00:24:07,934 This has been getting a lot 459 00:24:07,934 --> 00:24:09,867 of attention throughout the state right now 460 00:24:10,433 --> 00:24:11,533 and there's a lot of dollars 461 00:24:11,734 --> 00:24:14,100 to support work in in this area. 462 00:24:14,767 --> 00:24:16,266 It's really a safety issue 463 00:24:16,834 --> 00:24:19,834 and making sure that you have separated lanes for vehicles, 464 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:23,100 pedestrians and bicyclists within 465 00:24:23,133 --> 00:24:24,066 the vicinity of the schools. 466 00:24:26,367 --> 00:24:30,233 Third is the transportation needs of seniors. 467 00:24:31,033 --> 00:24:34,300 The town will co commit to identifying these needs and, 468 00:24:34,367 --> 00:24:35,500 and prioritizing them. 469 00:24:36,667 --> 00:24:41,333 Fourth is improving access to public transit through 470 00:24:42,066 --> 00:24:44,367 a continued relationship with Gatcha 471 00:24:45,333 --> 00:24:48,333 and an even stronger relationship with GATCHA than, 472 00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:49,567 than exists now. 473 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,700 And really that that's all about communicating 474 00:24:52,734 --> 00:24:54,734 what the community needs to gatcha 475 00:24:55,834 --> 00:25:00,133 and then also publicizing the availability 476 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:02,333 of RA's services within the community. 477 00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:04,533 A lot of people might not even be aware that, 478 00:25:04,533 --> 00:25:06,033 that it's there to support them. 479 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:11,500 Fifth, as I mentioned earlier, is roadway programming. 480 00:25:12,166 --> 00:25:14,266 So this isn't just about repaving, 481 00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:16,834 it's also about street lighting 482 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:22,367 and signalization crosswalks and other upgrades. 483 00:25:24,467 --> 00:25:28,567 Sixth ev charging the town will find ways to support 484 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,734 pembroke's ev car owners 485 00:25:32,233 --> 00:25:34,634 with new chargers in strategic locations. 486 00:25:35,734 --> 00:25:38,300 This is another thing that there's a, a lot of dollars 487 00:25:38,367 --> 00:25:40,233 that are out there to support the work. 488 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:42,634 If you can pull together a, a plan 489 00:25:43,233 --> 00:25:45,834 and apply for grant funding, 490 00:25:45,867 --> 00:25:47,767 then there's federal and state dollars. 491 00:25:49,767 --> 00:25:52,033 Seventh is key corridors. 492 00:25:52,834 --> 00:25:55,300 This, these are streets that have the greatest level 493 00:25:55,333 --> 00:25:59,033 of importance, a level of importance in Pembroke in terms 494 00:25:59,033 --> 00:26:01,634 of traffic access to businesses, et cetera. 495 00:26:02,033 --> 00:26:05,567 So for example, last summer, if I recall, a lot 496 00:26:05,567 --> 00:26:07,000 of work was done on Center Street. 497 00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:11,867 So similar efforts should be undertaken for other key door 498 00:26:12,367 --> 00:26:13,700 key corridors in town. 499 00:26:15,266 --> 00:26:17,066 And finally is parking. 500 00:26:18,233 --> 00:26:20,533 The idea here is to take a fresh look at 501 00:26:20,533 --> 00:26:23,767 how parking is being required of new developments. 502 00:26:25,567 --> 00:26:27,934 For example, shared parking is something 503 00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:30,300 that many towns have baked into their zoning codes 504 00:26:30,767 --> 00:26:32,500 that reduces the amount 505 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,066 of parking while still serving the parking needs 506 00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:37,734 of businesses and and residential buildings. 507 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:42,834 So yeah, I'll hand it back to 508 00:26:42,834 --> 00:26:43,834 - Julia. 509 00:26:49,667 --> 00:26:51,033 - Thank you Luke. So 510 00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:54,233 before we move into the interactive portion of the meeting, 511 00:26:55,166 --> 00:26:58,133 we'll go over the implementation aspect of the master plan. 512 00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:02,467 So one of the most important characteristics 513 00:27:02,467 --> 00:27:04,834 of a master plan is that the document is actionable. 514 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:06,000 That all of the goals 515 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,533 and actions that you see around the room 516 00:27:08,834 --> 00:27:11,467 can be carried forward by town departments, 517 00:27:11,634 --> 00:27:13,233 by champions within the community 518 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:16,567 to help realize the community vision and, and these goals. 519 00:27:17,033 --> 00:27:20,767 So the full master plan is available on the master plan 520 00:27:20,834 --> 00:27:22,467 website, which we'll share the link to 521 00:27:22,467 --> 00:27:23,533 before the end of the meeting. 522 00:27:24,033 --> 00:27:26,634 And this document contains an implementation 523 00:27:26,634 --> 00:27:28,033 matrix as its final section. 524 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:32,033 So what that is, is a roadmap that lays out 525 00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:34,834 different details for all these goals 526 00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:37,266 and actions that can help them to be realized. 527 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:39,767 So these different attributes 528 00:27:39,834 --> 00:27:42,367 that are included within the matrix include 529 00:27:43,066 --> 00:27:45,567 a designated champion, a municipal entity 530 00:27:45,634 --> 00:27:48,367 that has the primary responsibility for implementing 531 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:52,066 that specific action order of magnitude, cost, estimate, 532 00:27:52,734 --> 00:27:54,867 and approximation of the financial cost 533 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,000 of the recommended action. 534 00:27:56,867 --> 00:27:59,567 Whether or not the action requires a zoning amendment 535 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,033 is included within the matrix. 536 00:28:03,467 --> 00:28:05,233 And then a general timeframe 537 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:07,266 for the schedule of implementation. 538 00:28:08,033 --> 00:28:11,533 So like Luke mentioned, there's over 200 different actions 539 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:13,033 and this is a fairly long matrix, 540 00:28:14,066 --> 00:28:15,700 but it's available for review. 541 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:18,734 This is kind of just a, a general overview of 542 00:28:18,734 --> 00:28:20,066 of the structure for that section. 543 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:24,266 So with that we'd like 544 00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:26,266 to move into the interactive portion of the meeting. 545 00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:29,934 Thank you for giving an overview 546 00:28:29,934 --> 00:28:31,300 of all the different chapter elements. 547 00:28:31,767 --> 00:28:34,700 Each one has a designated station around the room 548 00:28:36,734 --> 00:28:41,700 and what we'd like to do is to circulate, we have 549 00:28:42,367 --> 00:28:44,367 post-it notes and pencils at each station. 550 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,133 We encourage you to walk around, 551 00:28:47,533 --> 00:28:49,467 take a closer look at the different actions 552 00:28:49,467 --> 00:28:51,100 that we've just gone over at a high level 553 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:55,100 master plan collaboration committee members as well 554 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,700 as the consultant team will be posted at each station. 555 00:28:58,100 --> 00:28:59,934 Feel free to come around with any questions 556 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:03,533 and to write your comments, feedback, any reactions, 557 00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:06,100 any changes that you think might need to be made. 558 00:29:06,934 --> 00:29:09,033 We, you know, thank you for sharing your feedback 559 00:29:09,066 --> 00:29:13,634 and encourage you to, to write down anything 560 00:29:13,634 --> 00:29:15,133 that you can think of as you're going through 561 00:29:15,133 --> 00:29:17,467 and reading. And anything else? 562 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:19,300 - Nothing else from me 563 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,834 unless any of the other, any of the committee members 564 00:29:23,033 --> 00:29:26,266 have any thoughts before we break up? 565 00:29:26,567 --> 00:29:27,567 If not, 566 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:33,100 - Maybe we can move some of the chairs to allow more space 567 00:29:33,033 --> 00:29:35,634 for Yeah, yeah and, 568 00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:40,100 and Jennifer Nelson will be helping with the members 569 00:29:40,133 --> 00:29:42,934 that are participating online. 570 00:29:43,033 --> 00:29:44,033 So thank you. 571 00:29:49,934 --> 00:29:51,567 - Hi everyone who is online, 572 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,100 I dunno if they can hear me in the room still, 573 00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:59,066 but I can share some slides that I have here with the goals 574 00:29:59,066 --> 00:30:00,066 and action items on it 575 00:30:00,834 --> 00:30:03,367 and we can have a discussion about 576 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,233 the implementation matrix that Luke and Julia has reviewed. 577 00:30:28,433 --> 00:30:30,567 - Hey Jennifer, I'm gonna stay muted as I'm in the room 578 00:30:30,567 --> 00:30:32,033 and it's quite loud. 579 00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:35,734 - Okay. 580 00:30:54,033 --> 00:30:56,634 And if people can see my screen here, 581 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:15,066 I can see we have a couple people raising hands. 582 00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:16,934 So if you just want to unmute yourself. 583 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:38,033 - Hi Jennifer, can you hear me? 584 00:31:38,867 --> 00:31:42,900 - Yes, I can hear you. - Would you be able to go more into 585 00:31:43,367 --> 00:31:45,300 the plans for sidewalks? 586 00:31:45,467 --> 00:31:48,166 It's kind of funny because talking to someone today 587 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,033 about the town of Pembroke 588 00:31:51,867 --> 00:31:54,934 and the number of sidewalks we have in the town, 589 00:31:56,166 --> 00:31:59,467 I'm really interested in plans for 590 00:32:00,133 --> 00:32:04,734 areas like West Stem Street where it is beautiful 591 00:32:04,734 --> 00:32:09,533 to walk but walk in some way not 592 00:32:09,634 --> 00:32:12,667 safe to walk because of the traffic that's going by 593 00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:14,133 and the rate at which they travel. 594 00:32:16,033 --> 00:32:18,433 - Right, right. Yeah. 595 00:32:18,467 --> 00:32:21,066 So this plan is, again, 596 00:32:21,133 --> 00:32:22,834 I did not write the transportation chapter. 597 00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:25,133 We actually had one of our 598 00:32:26,266 --> 00:32:31,100 transportation experts from VHB who specifically assesses, 599 00:32:31,934 --> 00:32:34,133 you know, sidewalk conditions and roadway conditions 600 00:32:34,533 --> 00:32:36,133 and the different types of public transit 601 00:32:36,133 --> 00:32:37,500 available to residents. 602 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:40,000 They wrote this chapter. 603 00:32:41,166 --> 00:32:43,734 So I know that this is accumulation of 604 00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:49,100 basically a range of other reports 605 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:53,066 that Pembroke has previously completed. 606 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,233 So let me just open up 607 00:32:56,233 --> 00:32:59,567 because I know, you know, there's gonna be a lot 608 00:32:59,567 --> 00:33:00,634 of specific questions 609 00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:04,000 and I realize that we might not be able to answer all 610 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,567 of those here tonight just 611 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:09,033 because this plan is, the purpose of this plan is 612 00:33:09,033 --> 00:33:12,834 to basically compile the rest of the plans that have been 613 00:33:14,033 --> 00:33:16,266 completed by the town of Pembroke so far 614 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 and basically prioritize action items moving forward. 615 00:33:20,867 --> 00:33:24,934 So let me just pull the actual plan up as well 616 00:33:25,033 --> 00:33:26,100 and we can kind of review. 617 00:33:50,867 --> 00:33:52,233 - Would there be anything on this end 618 00:33:52,233 --> 00:33:53,634 that we could do, Jennifer, to help? 619 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,834 - No, I think I am getting the, 620 00:34:00,433 --> 00:34:02,100 I'm getting the report up right now so 621 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,734 that we can just like kind of review some of the maps 622 00:34:04,734 --> 00:34:07,033 and actions that are in here too. 623 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,100 'cause that might be, it might give some a little bit more 624 00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:15,033 context as to what exactly our process was here. 625 00:34:16,266 --> 00:34:16,667 Sorry, 626 00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:25,233 just bear with me for a minute here. 627 00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:49,133 - Can I ask question Jennifer, do you want me 628 00:34:49,133 --> 00:34:50,734 to unmute everyone with their hands up 629 00:34:50,767 --> 00:34:52,133 or would you prefer to take it in order? 630 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,033 - Let's take it in order. So I just wanted to first show, 631 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,233 like, I wanted to answer Angela's 632 00:35:00,367 --> 00:35:01,467 question about transportation. 633 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:06,133 So we did review a lot of the, the previous plans 634 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:09,133 that the town had created. 635 00:35:09,133 --> 00:35:10,900 So the community development plan, 636 00:35:11,533 --> 00:35:13,500 bicycle pedestrian connectivity 637 00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:17,300 and livability study that was, that was 638 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,367 finalized in 2018. 639 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:24,767 So these reports I would say are a little bit more specific 640 00:35:24,767 --> 00:35:26,100 and get into the nitty gritty of 641 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,634 where exactly the sidewalk gaps are. 642 00:35:29,367 --> 00:35:31,834 So I think this would potentially be a better report 643 00:35:31,934 --> 00:35:35,000 to review in order if you have questions about specific 644 00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:39,867 roadways in here we do have maps of, you know, 645 00:35:39,867 --> 00:35:44,634 where are the sidewalks and there are some goals 646 00:35:44,634 --> 00:35:48,033 and action items addressing where the town could go 647 00:35:48,066 --> 00:35:53,033 to pursue additional funding to make these improvements 648 00:35:53,033 --> 00:35:55,567 that are already outlined in other previous plans. 649 00:35:56,634 --> 00:35:59,567 But I would say for very specific questions such as yours, 650 00:35:59,567 --> 00:36:04,066 Angela, I wish I had more information for you about 651 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,066 what exactly the plan is for those sidewalks, 652 00:36:07,066 --> 00:36:09,166 but I think that's going to be an ongoing conversation 653 00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:11,100 with the town moving forward 654 00:36:11,133 --> 00:36:13,066 as they pursue additional funding from the 655 00:36:13,066 --> 00:36:14,166 state and federal government. 656 00:36:15,533 --> 00:36:18,900 But I, I can tell you that there is definitely a lot of 657 00:36:19,767 --> 00:36:22,100 focus on safe roadway safety. 658 00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:25,133 There's a program called Safe Streets for All 659 00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:28,433 and a lot of money is being channeled through that program 660 00:36:29,133 --> 00:36:33,133 to try to improve sidewalks and pedestrian 661 00:36:33,133 --> 00:36:36,066 and bicycle infrastructure along roadways 662 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,734 to specifically address safety concerns 663 00:36:38,734 --> 00:36:40,100 of residents and municipalities. 664 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:46,367 - Okay, thank you. - Are you ready for the next one? Yeah, 665 00:36:46,734 --> 00:36:47,100 - Yeah, 666 00:36:54,734 --> 00:36:55,734 - Katrina, go ahead. 667 00:36:56,133 --> 00:36:57,133 Thank 668 00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:58,500 - You. 669 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:02,000 Sorry, I have laryngitis so I apologize for the creakiness 670 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,700 of my voice, but I was just wondering a little about, 671 00:37:09,166 --> 00:37:12,734 about one 672 00:37:12,734 --> 00:37:15,333 of the things you had talked about was the accessibility. 673 00:37:16,133 --> 00:37:19,033 What were some of the things you had heard from folks about 674 00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:22,100 the lack of accessibility? Lack? 675 00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,433 - You mean with regard to the specific 676 00:37:25,266 --> 00:37:27,233 public facilities in town? 677 00:37:27,266 --> 00:37:28,367 The structures themselves, 678 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,100 because I think we did hear a range 679 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,433 of accessibility concerns 680 00:37:33,367 --> 00:37:36,066 - And Luke at the beginning Jennifer pointed out that some 681 00:37:36,066 --> 00:37:39,533 of our open space accessibility were potentially an 682 00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:40,533 - Issue. 683 00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:41,767 Okay, perfect. Thank you. 684 00:37:44,667 --> 00:37:46,433 - Yeah, I can speak. 685 00:37:46,467 --> 00:37:48,066 So I wrote the public facilities 686 00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:52,867 and services chapter, so I did interact with people from 687 00:37:53,567 --> 00:37:55,000 the town hall and they said 688 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,133 that there's an accessibility concern with the current 689 00:37:59,734 --> 00:38:01,467 town hall structure just 690 00:38:01,467 --> 00:38:04,433 because the, it is a two level structure, 691 00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:08,900 but it's nearly impossible to get people from one floor 692 00:38:08,934 --> 00:38:11,834 to another because there's no elevator in that building. 693 00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:13,700 So if somebody was coming in with a wheelchair 694 00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:16,567 or some other kind of physical disability, it would be hard 695 00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:19,166 for them to access all the features of the town hall. 696 00:38:20,867 --> 00:38:23,900 And for some of the other older buildings, I know 697 00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,834 that accessibility remains a, a top priority. 698 00:38:27,266 --> 00:38:32,133 So making sure that there are accessible amenities 699 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:37,000 for, for residents both inside infrastructure, 700 00:38:37,367 --> 00:38:39,834 inside like buildings that the town has. 701 00:38:40,133 --> 00:38:43,000 But also at public parks for example. 702 00:38:43,133 --> 00:38:44,300 Are there accessible restrooms? 703 00:38:44,333 --> 00:38:45,834 Are there ramps where there, where 704 00:38:46,433 --> 00:38:48,066 there's an incline in terrain 705 00:38:48,066 --> 00:38:52,834 or change in terrain so that that continues 706 00:38:52,834 --> 00:38:53,834 to be a continuing 707 00:38:54,033 --> 00:38:56,867 or an ongoing priority I think for Pembroke 708 00:38:56,900 --> 00:39:01,100 and we write some specific areas in town in 709 00:39:02,567 --> 00:39:05,133 in the plan, we highlight those areas that yeah, 710 00:39:05,266 --> 00:39:07,934 need a little bit of extra attention. Perfect, 711 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 - Thank you. 712 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,133 I'll, I'll look back at those sections. 713 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:11,033 - Thank you. 714 00:39:18,066 --> 00:39:19,467 - Any other questions or concerns 715 00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:21,033 that you'd like to discuss with Jennifer 716 00:39:25,433 --> 00:39:27,667 - And I have all the goals and actions here as well 717 00:39:27,834 --> 00:39:29,433 so I can, you know, flip 718 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,533 to a specific chapter if anyone is interested 719 00:39:32,634 --> 00:39:35,934 and we can kind of walk through the action items for it. 720 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,500 - Hi Jennifer, it's Angela again. 721 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:42,367 - Hi Angela. - I'm a realtor 722 00:39:42,734 --> 00:39:44,367 and I do a lot of business in Boston. 723 00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:50,033 Okay. And Boston gets a lot of grant money to help 724 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,266 first time home owners 725 00:39:54,066 --> 00:39:55,166 - To - Purchase homes. 726 00:39:57,233 --> 00:40:01,667 I know from listening in on the meeting, there's a push 727 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:04,166 to get young families into Pembroke. 728 00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:08,000 Yes. Do you know if there are any grants 729 00:40:08,934 --> 00:40:12,834 or if anyone is exploring that avenue 730 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,133 to get grant money to help first time home buyers 731 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,433 to purchase homes in Pembroke 732 00:40:19,867 --> 00:40:21,000 - Within the town? 733 00:40:22,767 --> 00:40:26,033 Let me see, again, I'm gonna kind of refer back 734 00:40:26,033 --> 00:40:27,300 to the report because I did not 735 00:40:27,634 --> 00:40:29,300 specifically write that chapter. 736 00:40:29,634 --> 00:40:32,133 But let me see too, 737 00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:36,900 'cause I know that funding, you know, 738 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:38,700 throughout the state there continues to kind of, 739 00:40:39,133 --> 00:40:40,867 there continues to be a housing crisis. 740 00:40:41,767 --> 00:40:46,000 So there's a lot of work ongoing to kind 741 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,867 of address some of these challenges. 742 00:40:49,767 --> 00:40:54,734 So I don't know if Sabrina, if you know 743 00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:59,100 specifically within the town, if someone is kind of the 744 00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:02,667 with holder or a holder of that information 745 00:41:03,634 --> 00:41:06,000 who potentially helps facilitate 746 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,066 those kinds of application processes. 747 00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:12,266 I am not specifically sure, 748 00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,634 but I can write that question down too 749 00:41:14,634 --> 00:41:17,233 and also get back to you with information. I 750 00:41:17,233 --> 00:41:18,667 - Was gonna say at - This point my team, 751 00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:21,300 - I was gonna say we have a septic betterment program 752 00:41:21,467 --> 00:41:24,133 that allows homeowners to have additional 753 00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,934 and alternate financing for some of the needs 754 00:41:26,934 --> 00:41:31,066 that they have, but not necessarily money for down payments 755 00:41:31,266 --> 00:41:34,000 for first time or new home buyers in Pembroke. 756 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:38,133 I do know that one of the initial forays of exploration 757 00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:39,867 that the town is considering 758 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:44,033 and through our affordable housing committee is the proposal 759 00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:47,867 on this upcoming war on a business for May 14th 760 00:41:48,367 --> 00:41:51,734 at town meeting to create an affordable housing trust, 761 00:41:52,033 --> 00:41:55,066 which is not necessarily gonna give people down payments 762 00:41:55,066 --> 00:41:58,834 for homes, but it is going to open up an opportunity, 763 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,233 an avenue for additional construction of affordable housing 764 00:42:02,834 --> 00:42:05,700 and units that is more accessible to workforce housing 765 00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:08,266 and other underserved populations in town. 766 00:42:09,166 --> 00:42:12,100 - Okay. One of the, one of the, the avenues that Boston 767 00:42:12,767 --> 00:42:14,066 explored was 768 00:42:17,767 --> 00:42:20,767 instead of giving them the, the buyer has 769 00:42:20,767 --> 00:42:24,033 to have the down payment money on hand, you have to show 770 00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:26,634 that you're able to purchase a home, you have to show 771 00:42:26,634 --> 00:42:29,634 that you're able to qualify to purchase that home 772 00:42:30,333 --> 00:42:33,000 and then they would help them with the closing costs, 773 00:42:35,266 --> 00:42:39,533 which is a lot less than, you know, the down payment. 774 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,333 - I was gonna say, Angela, have you considered volunteering 775 00:42:43,367 --> 00:42:44,934 on one of our boards or committees? 776 00:42:44,934 --> 00:42:46,634 Because this sounds like something you could bring 777 00:42:46,634 --> 00:42:47,734 forward. Yeah, 778 00:42:48,033 --> 00:42:49,033 - Absolutely. 779 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,066 I think you have more your knowledge 780 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:52,467 to process ours in this regard. 781 00:42:52,867 --> 00:42:55,133 Definitely surpasses mine in terms of housing. 782 00:42:57,066 --> 00:42:59,100 - Lemme lemme think. 783 00:42:59,066 --> 00:43:00,266 Lemme think about it 784 00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:04,500 and when you reach out to me, I'll let you know. 785 00:43:06,133 --> 00:43:08,333 - Thank you Jen and Jennifer, you have two more people 786 00:43:08,333 --> 00:43:10,500 with their hands raised, one who has not yet spoken. 787 00:43:11,834 --> 00:43:15,066 Great. Alright, Chris, Everett, 788 00:43:15,834 --> 00:43:17,667 will you unmute yourself? 789 00:43:17,667 --> 00:43:18,900 You're you're up and you're ready. 790 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:24,066 - Hi everyone. So just in to Angela's point about 791 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:26,500 down payment assistance 792 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,500 and those sort of things like that historically does not 793 00:43:28,634 --> 00:43:31,834 come through like a, a town like Pembroke, right? 794 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:34,100 Like there would be cities, gateway cities 795 00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:35,934 that would have programs like that 796 00:43:36,066 --> 00:43:38,000 or partner with agencies like 797 00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:40,066 NeighborWorks Housing Solutions 798 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,834 or other organizations similar to 799 00:43:42,834 --> 00:43:44,867 that E-O-H-L-C and, and the like. 800 00:43:46,634 --> 00:43:48,700 I don't think Pembroke would ever, 801 00:43:51,133 --> 00:43:52,266 I don't wanna say want to, 802 00:43:52,734 --> 00:43:55,133 but I don't think Pembroke would ever find itself in a 803 00:43:55,333 --> 00:44:00,100 position where we would be identified as a gateway city and 804 00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,033 therefore eligible to provide some of those funds. 805 00:44:03,467 --> 00:44:07,100 Certainly, you know, proximity to organizations that do 806 00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,500 that kind of thing would be something 807 00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,533 that we would maybe wanna look at. 808 00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:13,066 Right? I mean we, I know we've got NeighborWorks housing 809 00:44:13,066 --> 00:44:14,867 solutions right next door in Kingston. 810 00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:19,433 So along the lines of housing, 811 00:44:19,433 --> 00:44:23,433 certainly maybe educational services, you know, maybe 812 00:44:23,433 --> 00:44:26,533 that's something that we could consider for 813 00:44:28,367 --> 00:44:32,433 this new community center as you maybe one service that gets 814 00:44:34,133 --> 00:44:37,000 cited there and you know, can be a benefit 815 00:44:37,166 --> 00:44:39,266 to residents of the community. 816 00:44:42,066 --> 00:44:43,100 - Absolutely, absolutely. 817 00:44:43,066 --> 00:44:46,266 And I think community partnership 818 00:44:46,333 --> 00:44:49,333 with neighboring municipalities is always 819 00:44:50,367 --> 00:44:54,333 a recommendation that we've kind of, that we weave into all 820 00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:55,567 of our master plans just 821 00:44:55,567 --> 00:45:00,066 because, you know, a single town can't 822 00:45:00,934 --> 00:45:03,533 necessarily fix the having crisis, 823 00:45:03,767 --> 00:45:07,000 but on its own, you know, it requires regional and statewide 824 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,133 and national support to kind of get there. 825 00:45:10,834 --> 00:45:15,133 So I think that's a great idea, Chris, of having some kind 826 00:45:15,133 --> 00:45:19,100 of educational component to, 827 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,066 to at least to bring these discussions 828 00:45:22,066 --> 00:45:25,500 and these ideas, these potential funding avenues 829 00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:27,100 to the table and bring them to the attention 830 00:45:27,133 --> 00:45:29,000 of community members. 831 00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:30,500 Absolutely. 832 00:45:31,266 --> 00:45:35,767 - I, Chris, just to come to contradict you, a lot 833 00:45:35,767 --> 00:45:37,100 of the clients that I've worked 834 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,367 with did not purchase home in Gateway cities. 835 00:45:40,033 --> 00:45:42,367 They didn't go to Brockton, they didn't go to Taunton, 836 00:45:42,834 --> 00:45:44,000 they didn't go to Lowell, 837 00:45:45,834 --> 00:45:49,166 they purchased in Randolph Stoughton, you know, 838 00:45:49,166 --> 00:45:52,433 and those are not gateway cities, they're purchasing Rayham, 839 00:45:52,433 --> 00:45:53,900 they're purchasing Bridgewater. 840 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:57,033 So I think it's an avenue 841 00:45:57,166 --> 00:46:00,066 that Pembroke should at least look 842 00:46:00,066 --> 00:46:02,333 into it. 843 00:46:02,467 --> 00:46:04,100 The money came from the state, some 844 00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:06,100 of it was from the leftover COVID funding. 845 00:46:10,834 --> 00:46:13,000 - Yeah, that's maybe I should that's very interesting. 846 00:46:13,567 --> 00:46:14,700 - Yeah. - Yeah. 847 00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:19,433 So Angela, I'm just curious, so is is 848 00:46:19,433 --> 00:46:22,233 what you're talking about, so it it's state funding 849 00:46:22,467 --> 00:46:26,166 that was given to individuals looking to purchase homes in 850 00:46:27,233 --> 00:46:30,266 particular in, in a variety of communities. 851 00:46:30,266 --> 00:46:34,100 So it's not necessarily, it's not local funding, right? 852 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,634 So it didn't come from those particular municipalities 853 00:46:36,634 --> 00:46:37,834 that came from, from the state. 854 00:46:37,934 --> 00:46:39,734 - This is why I asked about the question. 855 00:46:39,734 --> 00:46:41,133 - Yeah. Okay. Okay. I gotcha. Alright. 856 00:46:45,066 --> 00:46:47,033 - Maybe I should join your housing committee. 857 00:46:51,567 --> 00:46:53,667 - I think that would be very beneficial for Pembroke. 858 00:46:53,667 --> 00:46:55,567 You come with a lot of knowledge, Angela, 859 00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:57,533 - You know. 860 00:46:59,166 --> 00:47:01,667 Yeah, send me. Okay. 861 00:47:02,367 --> 00:47:04,300 - You have Katrina with her hand up when you're ready? 862 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:06,266 Yes, I am ready. Hi Katrina. 863 00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:11,433 - Hey, thank you. Just to build on what was already said, 864 00:47:12,467 --> 00:47:15,033 I see that there's a grant writer, the potential 865 00:47:15,066 --> 00:47:17,133 for hiring a dedicated grant writer 866 00:47:17,734 --> 00:47:19,233 or establishing a committee. 867 00:47:20,266 --> 00:47:22,700 If somebody was interested in helping out 868 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:24,667 with grant writing, what would be an 869 00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:25,934 appropriate action to take? 870 00:47:28,867 --> 00:47:31,166 - I think, I think getting in contact with the 871 00:47:32,066 --> 00:47:33,767 town manager would be the 872 00:47:35,333 --> 00:47:37,100 first thing I would recommend 873 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,166 because I know a lot of towns are really 874 00:47:43,133 --> 00:47:44,266 reliant upon volunteers 875 00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:48,367 or part-time administrators to try to tackle grant writing. 876 00:47:48,767 --> 00:47:50,533 So I think if you, or if you, you know, 877 00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:52,867 anyone who's interested, I think getting con 878 00:47:52,867 --> 00:47:55,100 of getting in contact with the town manager 879 00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:56,333 would be the first thing to do. 880 00:47:57,266 --> 00:47:58,734 And you could also reach out to 881 00:48:01,667 --> 00:48:03,066 potentially anyone on this committee, 882 00:48:03,467 --> 00:48:04,767 on the master planning committee 883 00:48:04,767 --> 00:48:07,300 because they're all connected in some way to the 884 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,500 municipal government or yeah. 885 00:48:10,567 --> 00:48:12,100 You know, the institutions that they serve. 886 00:48:12,266 --> 00:48:15,100 So, so I think if you know somebody who's 887 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:16,300 interested, I would definitely reach out. 888 00:48:17,033 --> 00:48:18,934 - Okay, awesome. Yeah, I would be happy to help. 889 00:48:19,066 --> 00:48:22,066 So I, I will reach out to the town manager. Thank you. Thank 890 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:24,033 - You Katrina, you have one more hand up 891 00:48:24,033 --> 00:48:25,533 in Laia. You ready? 892 00:48:26,467 --> 00:48:27,667 - Yes. Hi. 893 00:48:29,934 --> 00:48:31,667 - Hi. You can call me Lily. 894 00:48:33,233 --> 00:48:35,567 I, I find this discussion very interesting 895 00:48:35,567 --> 00:48:38,834 because I'm a first time home homeowner here in Pembroke. 896 00:48:38,867 --> 00:48:41,100 I moved in a year or so ago 897 00:48:42,634 --> 00:48:46,934 and I was wondering since one of the, one of the goals is 898 00:48:46,934 --> 00:48:48,834 to bring in more young families 899 00:48:48,834 --> 00:48:53,100 and individuals, a lot of this I feel like is tied 900 00:48:53,033 --> 00:48:55,667 to like diversity and culture 901 00:48:56,066 --> 00:48:58,834 and like attracting people from different socioeconomic 902 00:48:58,934 --> 00:49:00,066 and cultural backgrounds. 903 00:49:01,033 --> 00:49:04,133 And I'm wondering, 'cause I I I'm not sure I saw it in the 904 00:49:04,133 --> 00:49:07,667 master plan, if there's any, like, if there's any plans 905 00:49:07,867 --> 00:49:12,867 to increase diversity cultural awareness within the town. 906 00:49:14,667 --> 00:49:17,066 - Sorry, could you repeat that last, the last part of 907 00:49:17,066 --> 00:49:19,033 that question at the very end? 908 00:49:19,033 --> 00:49:21,066 It kind of cut out a little bit for me. Sorry. 909 00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:25,000 - Yeah, I, I'm, I'm wondering if there's any plans 910 00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:30,300 or any goals within these major goals to increase diversity 911 00:49:30,433 --> 00:49:32,233 and cultural awareness within the 912 00:49:32,233 --> 00:49:35,834 town? Yeah, 913 00:49:36,533 --> 00:49:37,533 - Yeah. 914 00:49:37,533 --> 00:49:42,300 So I think Pembroke's existing 915 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:46,734 culture is really fascinating and interesting. 916 00:49:47,033 --> 00:49:49,300 It's been a great pleasure, at least for me 917 00:49:49,333 --> 00:49:52,700 and I know everyone else on my team to get to know the town 918 00:49:53,934 --> 00:49:58,734 and understand the people who value its cultural properties 919 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:03,467 and its natural properties, it's natural beauty such as 920 00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:07,567 park, you know, such great resources for the town. 921 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:13,500 So I think there's definitely a sense of, you know, 922 00:50:13,834 --> 00:50:16,934 for goal 4.3 establishing a sense of place 923 00:50:16,934 --> 00:50:18,000 for Pembroke's residents. 924 00:50:19,033 --> 00:50:23,767 It's a priority for when refer to Pembroke residents, 925 00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,467 we're referring to all of Pembroke's residents, right? 926 00:50:28,266 --> 00:50:29,834 So I think saying things such as 927 00:50:30,867 --> 00:50:33,367 integrating translation services, I think 928 00:50:33,367 --> 00:50:36,834 that's gonna be huge for, for Pembroke 929 00:50:36,834 --> 00:50:39,000 and that should be something that they look for 930 00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:41,700 and kind of highlight in future years. 931 00:50:44,033 --> 00:50:45,266 And then also establishing 932 00:50:45,567 --> 00:50:48,934 and promoting links between historic preservation 933 00:50:48,934 --> 00:50:50,000 and economic development. 934 00:50:51,066 --> 00:50:54,634 So that could be including minority owned businesses in the 935 00:50:54,634 --> 00:50:58,867 area, you know, so, so I think it's kind of wo it doesn't, 936 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,734 it isn't specifically called out in these goals and actions, 937 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,500 but is it is woven into every stage of their report 938 00:51:07,567 --> 00:51:10,000 to be inclusive of those with disabilities inclusive 939 00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:14,333 of those who speak different languages who are 940 00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,300 moving into the United States for the first time. 941 00:51:18,433 --> 00:51:22,033 So that's kind of the, the approach that 942 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,100 VBS team took and that the master plan collaboration 943 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:28,100 Committee took to creating this report. 944 00:51:29,266 --> 00:51:31,066 - Is, - Does that answer your question, Lily? 945 00:51:32,133 --> 00:51:35,133 - Yeah, thank you. And I have another unrelated question, 946 00:51:35,667 --> 00:51:38,066 but if anyone else has another question related 947 00:51:38,066 --> 00:51:39,367 to this, I can wait. 948 00:51:42,033 --> 00:51:43,300 - Big red, I remember that. 949 00:51:45,066 --> 00:51:47,133 - I was just wondering if we could mute whoever 950 00:51:47,367 --> 00:51:49,000 is the background noise. It's hard to hear 951 00:51:49,734 --> 00:51:50,900 - Mute the background noise. 952 00:51:52,033 --> 00:51:53,033 Sorry. 953 00:51:54,834 --> 00:51:57,467 - I think Sabrina's in that room right now, so she, she's 954 00:51:58,700 --> 00:51:59,700 - No at all. 955 00:52:01,433 --> 00:52:03,867 Yeah, I was gonna build on that. 956 00:52:04,767 --> 00:52:07,133 You know, I definitely saw a lot of language about, 957 00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:11,734 you know, the diversity of housing options 958 00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:17,033 and the diversity of the land and things like that. 959 00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,266 But I didn't see a ton about like people 960 00:52:20,533 --> 00:52:23,433 and culture in terms of that diversity. 961 00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:27,500 I did see a little bit about language, so I I I would agree. 962 00:52:27,634 --> 00:52:29,634 I I think some more, 963 00:52:30,567 --> 00:52:34,033 some more information included in the plan more explicitly 964 00:52:34,033 --> 00:52:38,000 because to the reader it doesn't exactly look like it's 965 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,700 interwoven but maybe to the people who have written it, it, 966 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,467 you know, that it's interwoven. 967 00:52:43,834 --> 00:52:45,767 So maybe making it a little bit more visible 968 00:52:46,734 --> 00:52:49,700 would be helpful so that it's more, 969 00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:54,100 it's it's, it's clear that it's woven into e everything. 970 00:52:54,467 --> 00:52:56,634 'cause I think just reading it, it's hard to tell 971 00:52:58,567 --> 00:53:00,066 I had the same thought myself. 972 00:53:01,033 --> 00:53:03,100 - Okay, great. Thank you for that feedback. 973 00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:04,367 That's definitely good to know 974 00:53:04,367 --> 00:53:06,433 because I know that once you start writing a report 975 00:53:06,467 --> 00:53:07,567 and you've been in it for months 976 00:53:07,567 --> 00:53:09,000 and months, sometimes it gets a 977 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,467 little, you know? Absolutely. 978 00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:14,500 - Yeah. - So thank you. That's very, very good feedback. 979 00:53:14,567 --> 00:53:16,734 I really appreciate it Katrina and Lily. 980 00:53:21,567 --> 00:53:24,033 And I know Lily, you said you had an unrelated question. 981 00:53:24,533 --> 00:53:28,300 - Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate the discussion. 982 00:53:29,467 --> 00:53:32,634 So I, I initially, I agree 983 00:53:32,634 --> 00:53:34,066 with the comment about the sidewalks. 984 00:53:34,767 --> 00:53:37,300 I live to the, I live close to the qui fields 985 00:53:38,266 --> 00:53:40,934 and it would be really nice to be able to walk over there 986 00:53:40,934 --> 00:53:42,333 or have somewhere to walk my dogs. 987 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:46,767 - Absolutely. - Yeah. So it would, it would be great, 988 00:53:46,767 --> 00:53:48,266 especially since it's a public space 989 00:53:48,266 --> 00:53:51,700 and there's like places where you can walk in the, 990 00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,000 in the forest behind it. 991 00:53:54,166 --> 00:53:56,467 And in relation to that, I know that there's, 992 00:53:56,867 --> 00:53:58,533 there's efforts for the conservation of, 993 00:53:58,634 --> 00:54:02,233 of these like forests and increasing people coming in 994 00:54:02,233 --> 00:54:04,467 and stuff and I just wanted to suggest 995 00:54:05,567 --> 00:54:06,834 'cause going into them, 996 00:54:07,734 --> 00:54:09,867 at least the ones across from the Maki 997 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:14,100 or next to the Maki said field, I haven't seen anywhere 998 00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:17,066 where like we can dispose of like dog waste 999 00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:20,333 or just like trash bins or something like that. 1000 00:54:20,567 --> 00:54:24,767 And I have heard complaints about, you know, waste and, 1001 00:54:24,867 --> 00:54:26,233 and that makes it unattractive. 1002 00:54:26,467 --> 00:54:29,767 So I just wanted to not, it wasn't necessarily a question, 1003 00:54:29,867 --> 00:54:31,266 but maybe like a suggestion 1004 00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:34,033 of maybe more like public waste bins. 1005 00:54:36,133 --> 00:54:37,767 - Absolutely. I think that's a great idea 1006 00:54:39,133 --> 00:54:41,300 And these are things that, you know, we could do 1007 00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:42,734 as much research as we can, 1008 00:54:42,867 --> 00:54:45,266 but of course you as the residents who live close 1009 00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:47,667 to these amenities, know the condition 1010 00:54:47,667 --> 00:54:49,100 of these amenities better than anyone. 1011 00:54:49,333 --> 00:54:51,533 So thank you so much for that input. 1012 00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:53,734 I think we can definitely add a line in there about that. 1013 00:54:57,033 --> 00:55:01,100 - I would add to that I would say the same at, you know, 1014 00:55:01,266 --> 00:55:04,433 tubs Meadow, usually that trash can is overflowing, 1015 00:55:05,467 --> 00:55:07,100 not usually it has, I've seen it 1016 00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:08,567 that way in in the past rather. 1017 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,133 And then there's also the 1018 00:55:13,767 --> 00:55:17,100 Wildlife Refuge on, it's the one that has the tower, 1019 00:55:17,166 --> 00:55:18,433 I forget the name of it all the time, 1020 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,133 but it's on that street that goes 1021 00:55:20,233 --> 00:55:22,166 to pass the volunteer fire station 1022 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,333 - While, while it's wildlands trust on Bark Street. 1023 00:55:26,433 --> 00:55:29,033 - Yes, yes. Wildlands trust. Exactly. Yeah. 1024 00:55:29,133 --> 00:55:32,767 So I think maybe across the board, either increasing 1025 00:55:33,533 --> 00:55:36,867 receptacles or, I know there's also a push for recycling 1026 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:39,133 and awareness in the month of March. 1027 00:55:40,033 --> 00:55:42,667 So you know, maybe something around just awareness 1028 00:55:42,767 --> 00:55:45,166 of helping with the stewardship I think would be helpful 1029 00:55:45,367 --> 00:55:48,300 and then also potentially more receptacles. 1030 00:55:51,066 --> 00:55:52,367 - Absolutely, yeah. 1031 00:55:52,367 --> 00:55:56,033 I know that we did specifically call out stewardship 1032 00:55:57,367 --> 00:56:00,467 in maintaining these recreational facilities 1033 00:56:02,133 --> 00:56:06,066 just because we do at, at least when we toured the town it 1034 00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:09,100 and from engaging with stakeholders 1035 00:56:09,333 --> 00:56:11,867 and the, from the first public meeting for a lot of 1036 00:56:11,867 --> 00:56:15,100 what we heard is that a lot of the towns athletic fields 1037 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,066 and playgrounds have fallen behind in terms 1038 00:56:17,066 --> 00:56:21,500 of facility maintenance. 1039 00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:23,100 Which I know part of that is 1040 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,066 because with the construction of the new community center, 1041 00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:29,033 you know, some funds had to be moved around. 1042 00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:32,033 So there's a question of, okay, whose responsibility is it? 1043 00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:36,133 So I think the town could definitely benefit from, you know, 1044 00:56:36,033 --> 00:56:39,367 more leadership direction, staffing funding 1045 00:56:39,734 --> 00:56:44,500 and even potentially a volunteer run kind 1046 00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:47,500 of maintenance group who could, you know, who of people 1047 00:56:47,533 --> 00:56:50,000 who maybe have extra time on their hands, be it, you know, 1048 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,100 retired folks or, 1049 00:56:52,467 --> 00:56:56,100 or maybe students in the summer who want to give back 1050 00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,834 to their community and enjoy these facilities. 1051 00:56:58,934 --> 00:57:00,066 I think that there could be, 1052 00:57:00,066 --> 00:57:03,467 there's definitely several options that together could help 1053 00:57:03,634 --> 00:57:06,066 to address these concerns. 1054 00:57:06,634 --> 00:57:09,266 Absolutely. Yeah, I 1055 00:57:09,266 --> 00:57:10,266 - Love that. 1056 00:57:10,433 --> 00:57:11,433 Yeah. 1057 00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,367 - And I can't see if anyone 1058 00:57:21,367 --> 00:57:22,467 else has their hand up right now. 1059 00:57:22,567 --> 00:57:24,000 I'm trying to, not, 1060 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,066 - Not yet Jennifer. 1061 00:57:25,033 --> 00:57:26,500 But is there any other, 1062 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,834 is there another topic you anticipated discussing in this 1063 00:57:29,834 --> 00:57:33,066 that you'd like to raise and see what generates from that? 1064 00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:38,033 - Yeah, let's, well I'm gonna jump back into 1065 00:57:38,467 --> 00:57:39,567 the slideshow too. 1066 00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:45,066 I know we talked a bit about housing in terms 1067 00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:46,834 of economic development. 1068 00:57:47,233 --> 00:57:48,867 Do you feel like these goals 1069 00:57:48,934 --> 00:57:53,834 and action items prioritize adequately 1070 00:57:54,266 --> 00:57:57,266 the economic development that residents would like 1071 00:57:57,266 --> 00:57:59,266 to see in Pembroke moving forward? 1072 00:58:00,734 --> 00:58:03,300 Such as promoting and managing tourism 1073 00:58:04,133 --> 00:58:07,734 or establishing collaborations between 1074 00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:09,634 various businesses? 1075 00:58:10,834 --> 00:58:12,667 - Would it be inappropriate to mention that 1076 00:58:12,667 --> 00:58:15,667 that would increase revenue, which could help 1077 00:58:15,667 --> 00:58:17,634 with things like staffing 1078 00:58:17,667 --> 00:58:20,033 and extra services that we're unable to offer now 1079 00:58:20,033 --> 00:58:21,100 and really stressing Absolutely. 1080 00:58:21,533 --> 00:58:22,667 Economic development can help that? 1081 00:58:23,867 --> 00:58:25,467 - Absolutely. No, I think that's a great point. 1082 00:58:25,667 --> 00:58:29,367 I think that's something that a lot of times I, you know, 1083 00:58:29,433 --> 00:58:30,700 I grew up in a very small town 1084 00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:33,033 and sometimes it, it's weird to think 1085 00:58:33,033 --> 00:58:35,500 that we do need more businesses in order to 1086 00:58:36,667 --> 00:58:37,834 support our community 1087 00:58:37,834 --> 00:58:42,033 and not have all the burden be on the residential taxpayers. 1088 00:58:42,066 --> 00:58:44,100 But I think that's absolutely something that needs 1089 00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:48,100 to be considered and talked about even in small towns. 1090 00:58:48,467 --> 00:58:50,333 You know, it's really important to have these, 1091 00:58:50,834 --> 00:58:54,000 the businesses and you know, you can integrate businesses 1092 00:58:54,066 --> 00:58:55,166 and support businesses 1093 00:58:55,266 --> 00:58:58,900 and encourage new business owners to come into town 1094 00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:02,867 and not change the, the character of the town in doing so. 1095 00:59:03,567 --> 00:59:05,100 - That's an excellent point, Jennifer, 1096 00:59:05,133 --> 00:59:07,500 'cause I think that's a concern of some of the folks 1097 00:59:07,567 --> 00:59:09,066 who raised their families here 1098 00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:11,867 and the balance, I know you cover in the plan. 1099 00:59:12,066 --> 00:59:13,033 Can you discuss that a little, 1100 00:59:14,867 --> 00:59:17,133 - The balance between economic development 1101 00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:20,233 and maintaining small town character? 1102 00:59:21,133 --> 00:59:23,867 - Yes ma'am. - Yeah, absolutely. 1103 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,333 I mean I think that's part of the bigger discussion 1104 00:59:27,333 --> 00:59:28,467 around land use 1105 00:59:29,834 --> 00:59:34,367 and determining, you know, through plans like this 1106 00:59:35,133 --> 00:59:39,100 establishing what residents would like to see in terms 1107 00:59:39,634 --> 00:59:41,367 of types of businesses. 1108 00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:44,867 I think that goes a long way in encouraging 1109 00:59:44,867 --> 00:59:48,233 and kind of directing which business owners may want 1110 00:59:48,233 --> 00:59:50,000 to come into the town. 1111 00:59:50,934 --> 00:59:53,634 So I think if, you know residents are able 1112 00:59:53,634 --> 00:59:58,033 to share their voices and participate in active communities 1113 00:59:58,033 --> 01:00:00,934 discussion, I think you can really create 1114 01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:04,066 or foster, you know, the kinds of 1115 01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:10,033 the kind of economic growth that the town specifically wants 1116 01:00:10,033 --> 01:00:12,066 to see and you can kind of direct 1117 01:00:12,133 --> 01:00:14,133 and cater that growth in a certain way. 1118 01:00:15,567 --> 01:00:16,567 So I think 1119 01:00:17,066 --> 01:00:18,367 - So far what is your feedback then? 1120 01:00:21,066 --> 01:00:23,333 - My feedback for the balance 1121 01:00:23,467 --> 01:00:25,367 - From the residents on the questionnaires 1122 01:00:25,367 --> 01:00:27,100 with the plan in terms of what kinds 1123 01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:28,900 of economic development they'd like to see? 1124 01:00:29,033 --> 01:00:30,900 Is there anything to discuss there? 1125 01:00:32,133 --> 01:00:35,533 - I think it's mostly still maintaining the small scale like 1126 01:00:35,533 --> 01:00:39,634 family owned businesses, retail, you know, there is that 1127 01:00:40,834 --> 01:00:42,767 major economic corridor along Route three. 1128 01:00:43,667 --> 01:00:47,166 But I think for the rest of the town there's the 1129 01:00:48,567 --> 01:00:52,133 desire to kind of maintain smaller businesses, 1130 01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:53,533 which I think is fair. 1131 01:00:53,634 --> 01:00:58,367 But I think you can also incorporate a range of businesses, 1132 01:00:58,767 --> 01:01:02,000 like even if they are like a smaller size in smaller 1133 01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,333 buildings by focusing on a range of, you know, 1134 01:01:05,333 --> 01:01:09,934 healthcare businesses and also sports and recreation 1135 01:01:10,033 --> 01:01:12,300 or restaurants or retail. 1136 01:01:13,834 --> 01:01:14,834 By encouraging that 1137 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,367 and kind of codifying for that in the zoning code too, 1138 01:01:18,433 --> 01:01:20,734 that is one way that residents 1139 01:01:20,867 --> 01:01:22,567 and the town can specifically 1140 01:01:24,834 --> 01:01:27,066 encourage specific kinds of development 1141 01:01:27,066 --> 01:01:28,667 to come in to the community. 1142 01:01:29,266 --> 01:01:34,133 And I think along Route three too, there was, you know, 1143 01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:38,133 some conversation of, you know, there's, 1144 01:01:39,233 --> 01:01:42,100 sorry, some like industrial properties along Route three 1145 01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:44,500 and many of them are vacant. 1146 01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:49,066 So encouraging land 1147 01:01:49,066 --> 01:01:53,233 that is already developed upon to have some kind 1148 01:01:53,233 --> 01:01:56,467 of new ownership or to encourage new businesses to come in 1149 01:01:56,467 --> 01:01:57,834 and fill those vacant spots. 1150 01:01:58,133 --> 01:02:00,367 I think that should be a priority for Pembroke over, 1151 01:02:01,734 --> 01:02:04,467 you know, there's a lot of priority to save 1152 01:02:04,634 --> 01:02:06,667 and conserve natural land. 1153 01:02:06,767 --> 01:02:10,634 So instead of potentially developing on some new, you know, 1154 01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:12,767 that new land that would've 1155 01:02:12,767 --> 01:02:16,066 otherwise been conserved for natural resources 1156 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,300 by looking towards infill development 1157 01:02:20,567 --> 01:02:25,066 or encouraging businesses to redevelop land 1158 01:02:25,066 --> 01:02:26,734 that was already previously developed. 1159 01:02:26,834 --> 01:02:29,300 I think that's one way that you can kind of balance the 1160 01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:34,100 economic growth and you know, 1161 01:02:34,333 --> 01:02:36,333 maintaining the current character of the town. 1162 01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:38,767 - No, that's excellent. 1163 01:02:39,166 --> 01:02:42,300 Have you had other experience with other communities 1164 01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:44,867 where they have struggled with similar issues 1165 01:02:45,133 --> 01:02:48,066 and you heard something that was just revolutionary? 1166 01:02:50,367 --> 01:02:51,467 - Absolutely. I mean I think that's a, 1167 01:02:51,634 --> 01:02:53,367 that's a big challenge for a lot of communities, 1168 01:02:53,367 --> 01:02:58,066 especially in the metro Boston area balancing, 1169 01:02:58,066 --> 01:03:02,900 especially with, with populations that are moving out 1170 01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:04,734 of the city and moving into these org 1171 01:03:04,834 --> 01:03:07,000 or into these smaller communities, you know, 1172 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,100 with more people it puts a lot of strain onto 1173 01:03:11,133 --> 01:03:13,033 current infrastructure and current businesses there. 1174 01:03:13,066 --> 01:03:17,233 So you kind of have to figure out unique ways to level up. 1175 01:03:18,233 --> 01:03:21,634 But I think the communities who work closely 1176 01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:24,066 with their chambers of commerce too 1177 01:03:24,066 --> 01:03:28,867 and who, you know, create ties between the school systems, 1178 01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:31,066 the chamber of commerce, the libraries, 1179 01:03:31,066 --> 01:03:35,100 and who really kind of share the information of 1180 01:03:35,333 --> 01:03:37,900 what they hear in town, I think those are 1181 01:03:38,634 --> 01:03:42,467 the like well positioned to bring in businesses 1182 01:03:42,467 --> 01:03:43,934 that cater to their residents needs. 1183 01:03:45,634 --> 01:03:47,867 I'll have to get back to you on like specifics. 1184 01:03:48,367 --> 01:03:49,467 - No worries, no worries. 1185 01:03:49,467 --> 01:03:51,000 Angela, did you wanna say something? 1186 01:03:51,266 --> 01:03:53,100 - Yes, Jennifer, along that line, 1187 01:03:55,166 --> 01:03:57,367 the old Christmas tree shop location. 1188 01:04:00,066 --> 01:04:02,667 - Okay, - Is there plans for that? 1189 01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,066 'cause I think that would be a great area to 1190 01:04:06,634 --> 01:04:11,533 put something in that families with children, 1191 01:04:12,367 --> 01:04:15,867 teenagers, young adults could go to. 1192 01:04:16,266 --> 01:04:20,734 Because right now I am the mother of, well used 1193 01:04:20,734 --> 01:04:22,634 to be a teenager, a young man now, 1194 01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:24,533 but they go out of Pembroke 1195 01:04:25,767 --> 01:04:28,300 because there's nothing in Pembroke for them to do, 1196 01:04:29,867 --> 01:04:31,066 - Right? Yeah. So they 1197 01:04:31,066 --> 01:04:33,900 - Travel to other communities and spend their dollars there. 1198 01:04:34,033 --> 01:04:37,767 So I was thinking that location right off the extra sway, 1199 01:04:38,634 --> 01:04:40,367 like you said, it's already developed. 1200 01:04:40,367 --> 01:04:44,266 There's a great parking lot, a huge building 1201 01:04:45,133 --> 01:04:48,166 to put something in there that's interactive 1202 01:04:48,367 --> 01:04:52,333 so our kids could go there and you know, let off some steam. 1203 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,000 - Jennifer, do you mind if I throw something out and, 1204 01:04:58,033 --> 01:05:00,266 and I don't know that this is not gonna wind up being 1205 01:05:00,634 --> 01:05:01,934 relevant in the long haul, but Angela, 1206 01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:04,734 the select board were approached, was approached 1207 01:05:04,867 --> 01:05:08,767 by a business owner who asked them to go to town meeting 1208 01:05:09,033 --> 01:05:11,900 and get another package store license for that location, 1209 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,900 which is not what you're talking about. 1210 01:05:14,133 --> 01:05:16,033 I'm sorry about that. But yeah, as far 1211 01:05:16,033 --> 01:05:19,333 as I know now it's still up in the air what the future of 1212 01:05:19,333 --> 01:05:20,634 that's gonna wind up being. 1213 01:05:21,667 --> 01:05:23,066 But to your point, 1214 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:26,233 and I'm gonna be quiet now so Jennifer can answer how, 1215 01:05:26,233 --> 01:05:29,100 what is the way to appeal to a business where you could try 1216 01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:30,634 to bring someone in 1217 01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:33,066 and what kinds of thoughts do you have surrounding 1218 01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:35,333 those kinds of businesses? 1219 01:05:35,533 --> 01:05:39,000 That would be, as Angela put it, for the underserved 1220 01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:41,100 age groups in our town, 1221 01:05:41,367 --> 01:05:44,767 what could bring in business revenue, so forth? 1222 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,567 - Right. So that is a very loaded question 1223 01:05:50,567 --> 01:05:54,934 because now we're getting into ape a specific site 1224 01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:58,367 and you know, VHB does some site planning 1225 01:05:58,367 --> 01:06:00,567 and I've worked on some site plans and it's interesting 1226 01:06:02,033 --> 01:06:05,533 because it comes down to ownership 1227 01:06:05,634 --> 01:06:08,033 and what the owner of that land 1228 01:06:08,066 --> 01:06:10,567 and of that property, you know, wants to do with that. 1229 01:06:11,367 --> 01:06:15,266 But I think if you can engage again through 1230 01:06:16,066 --> 01:06:19,000 chambers of commerce or maybe even working with 1231 01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:22,033 like regional planning agencies, 1232 01:06:22,033 --> 01:06:24,033 sometimes they have some insights into, 1233 01:06:27,166 --> 01:06:31,166 into types of businesses 1234 01:06:31,166 --> 01:06:34,033 that are growing in popularity in the region 1235 01:06:34,533 --> 01:06:37,333 and can kind of provide some guidance in how 1236 01:06:37,333 --> 01:06:41,066 to get connected with people who may be looking for 1237 01:06:41,533 --> 01:06:42,567 new spots to grow. 1238 01:06:44,634 --> 01:06:47,000 I know one thing that's popular with the people 1239 01:06:48,066 --> 01:06:49,500 my age in their like twenties 1240 01:06:49,634 --> 01:06:53,133 and thirties is like micro breweries. 1241 01:06:53,166 --> 01:06:54,333 Like people are talking about that 1242 01:06:54,333 --> 01:06:56,834 because it's a place where you can go for food or drinks 1243 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,166 or you know, it's a place where you can be social 1244 01:06:59,367 --> 01:07:01,066 with, with other people. 1245 01:07:01,033 --> 01:07:04,867 So I know that there's like, you know, different trends 1246 01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:07,133 that kind of come up and sway down. 1247 01:07:07,033 --> 01:07:11,033 And so being able to have a space that can adapt to 1248 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,233 multiple uses I think is the best way to move forward 1249 01:07:14,367 --> 01:07:18,367 with a site that, you know is central in town 1250 01:07:18,467 --> 01:07:20,667 and right off the right off of Route three. 1251 01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:25,000 So there's, there's many ways to handle, you know, 1252 01:07:25,033 --> 01:07:26,133 a site plan, but there's, 1253 01:07:26,133 --> 01:07:28,500 and there's many factors involved like ownership 1254 01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,000 and you know, money and who's gonna pay for it 1255 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,700 and who's should it be redeveloped 1256 01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:36,300 or can we, can we use the property as it exists 1257 01:07:36,367 --> 01:07:37,767 and just change the facade. 1258 01:07:37,834 --> 01:07:40,266 You know, there's many different discussions to go on there, 1259 01:07:40,266 --> 01:07:44,467 but I totally agree that if it is an underused property 1260 01:07:44,467 --> 01:07:47,300 and it could be, you know, changed 1261 01:07:47,934 --> 01:07:50,367 and better address the needs of residents 1262 01:07:51,867 --> 01:07:54,066 and specific populations that may 1263 01:07:54,066 --> 01:07:56,033 otherwise be underserved, I think 1264 01:07:56,033 --> 01:07:58,033 that's totally a conversation that 1265 01:07:58,867 --> 01:08:00,567 people could bring up with their chambers of commerce. 1266 01:08:00,867 --> 01:08:01,867 Just to gauge interest 1267 01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:04,133 of potential buyers in the area who may be interested. 1268 01:08:06,367 --> 01:08:08,834 - Katrina has another question. Go ahead Katrina. 1269 01:08:11,767 --> 01:08:15,634 - Sure. Yeah, I was just gonna add to that in terms of some 1270 01:08:15,634 --> 01:08:18,300 of the data that was in the master plan 1271 01:08:19,367 --> 01:08:24,033 and also what I know as a, as a parent, it it would be great 1272 01:08:24,033 --> 01:08:29,100 to have is a public pool, something like that was mentioned, 1273 01:08:29,066 --> 01:08:30,634 a public pool or splash pad 1274 01:08:31,667 --> 01:08:35,266 or even indoor recreational facilities. 1275 01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:39,500 Like if it was something I obviously we're going 1276 01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:41,533 to have the community center so it would have 1277 01:08:41,533 --> 01:08:45,266 to not overlap, but I see exercise facilities as well. 1278 01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:48,734 So maybe some sort of mixed use situation 1279 01:08:48,734 --> 01:08:52,266 that addresses some of the major recreation areas 1280 01:08:52,567 --> 01:08:55,233 that folks in Pembroke said were needed most. 1281 01:08:56,367 --> 01:08:59,100 So I appreciate the conversation. 1282 01:08:59,033 --> 01:09:02,233 So I will give some feedback to the Chamber 1283 01:09:02,233 --> 01:09:04,266 of Commerce based on this. 1284 01:09:04,266 --> 01:09:05,266 Thank you. 1285 01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,934 - Absolutely. I have to say mixed use is finitely a, 1286 01:09:12,133 --> 01:09:14,533 you know, I can say this 'cause I'm a planner. 1287 01:09:14,834 --> 01:09:18,033 I'm a very much in favor of mixed use as much 1288 01:09:18,033 --> 01:09:20,934 as possible just because it usually brings together 1289 01:09:21,667 --> 01:09:24,834 like it the name, it brings together a mix of different uses 1290 01:09:24,834 --> 01:09:29,000 so people like it, that kind of development caters 1291 01:09:29,266 --> 01:09:32,300 to several different population groups at once usually. 1292 01:09:33,066 --> 01:09:34,767 So I think that's definitely a great idea 1293 01:09:35,066 --> 01:09:36,166 and I would definitely be interested 1294 01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:40,333 to learning more about the Christmas treaty shop site. 1295 01:09:40,734 --> 01:09:42,834 So it sounds like a, it could be a great 1296 01:09:42,834 --> 01:09:44,100 opportunity for Pembroke. 1297 01:09:45,433 --> 01:09:48,433 - We have a, we have a shy question coming in from outside 1298 01:09:49,166 --> 01:09:52,266 as far as business goes, Jennifer, is the fact 1299 01:09:52,266 --> 01:09:54,100 that Pembroke is a septic town 1300 01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:58,333 and does not have a central sewer gonna be an issue 1301 01:09:58,333 --> 01:09:59,834 that we face bringing in some 1302 01:09:59,834 --> 01:10:02,066 of the larger businesses we might wanna appeal to 1303 01:10:04,834 --> 01:10:07,233 - With my very limited knowledge of septic 1304 01:10:07,233 --> 01:10:11,734 and sewer, I would say that it really depends 1305 01:10:12,333 --> 01:10:16,634 on the type of business that is coming in 1306 01:10:17,834 --> 01:10:20,767 and what they, what their facility 1307 01:10:20,867 --> 01:10:23,033 or their property will be used for. 1308 01:10:23,033 --> 01:10:24,634 Obviously if you have manufacturing 1309 01:10:24,734 --> 01:10:28,033 or industrial uses, it's gonna require a lot more water 1310 01:10:28,133 --> 01:10:30,100 and a lot more septic power. 1311 01:10:32,066 --> 01:10:34,166 - Our finance committee really did try to push 1312 01:10:34,233 --> 01:10:36,033 for a little while that concept of a hotel 1313 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,033 having a stopping place along Route three 1314 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,166 that break off on the highway and Power Brook. 1315 01:10:42,767 --> 01:10:45,934 - Right? Yeah, so I mean I think there, 1316 01:10:46,333 --> 01:10:49,133 there are definitely ways that you can work 1317 01:10:49,133 --> 01:10:54,000 around not having a, you know, a municipal sewer. 1318 01:10:56,567 --> 01:11:00,100 There's a lot of, I've, I've seen some developments where 1319 01:11:01,266 --> 01:11:04,000 there's a balance of septic usage 1320 01:11:04,133 --> 01:11:05,066 and then there's also a lot 1321 01:11:05,066 --> 01:11:06,767 of like green infrastructure too. 1322 01:11:06,767 --> 01:11:09,700 That's been like a big push recently is developments having 1323 01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:13,834 green infrastructure where you have part of the site 1324 01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:17,033 set aside for like leaching fields. 1325 01:11:18,133 --> 01:11:20,133 So there's, there's definitely ways to work around it. 1326 01:11:20,233 --> 01:11:24,033 It just involves some kind of unique 1327 01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:28,000 like architectural features 1328 01:11:28,333 --> 01:11:32,567 or like 1329 01:11:32,667 --> 01:11:34,033 site planning sometimes. 1330 01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:39,066 So I, I wouldn't say it's necessarily, I think, you know, 1331 01:11:39,066 --> 01:11:42,000 there, there are benefits to having sewer 1332 01:11:42,467 --> 01:11:45,333 but I think that the town without sewer could still have, 1333 01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:47,300 it could still bring in new businesses 1334 01:11:47,667 --> 01:11:52,000 and through creative site planning still maintain, you know, 1335 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,066 have everything be safe 1336 01:11:54,133 --> 01:11:57,100 and up to code without a sewer system. 1337 01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:00,066 - Okay, thank you. Katrina, did you wanna follow up? 1338 01:12:02,634 --> 01:12:07,333 - Yes. One thing that I know I was just thinking about, 1339 01:12:07,367 --> 01:12:10,567 you know, capitalizing on our water areas, I wonder 1340 01:12:11,133 --> 01:12:16,033 if we've thought about getting with a canoe 1341 01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:20,500 and kayak rental situation that could be a money maker 1342 01:12:20,667 --> 01:12:22,634 for the town in some way. 1343 01:12:24,033 --> 01:12:25,467 I know that there's the town landing 1344 01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:28,300 and in the past they've had some, you know, 1345 01:12:29,166 --> 01:12:32,000 or I don't know if they were for borrowing or what have you. 1346 01:12:32,667 --> 01:12:35,233 But just thinking about the ways in which we can use our 1347 01:12:35,233 --> 01:12:39,000 natural resources to build revenue for the town. 1348 01:12:42,133 --> 01:12:43,934 - I think that's a stellar idea. 1349 01:12:45,734 --> 01:12:48,033 Active transportation or not active transportation. 1350 01:12:48,133 --> 01:12:52,533 Active recreation, especially in Massachusetts. 1351 01:12:52,834 --> 01:12:55,767 I think in the summers and falls right is key. 1352 01:12:55,900 --> 01:12:58,367 You know, people want to be outside. Yeah. 1353 01:12:58,634 --> 01:13:01,634 And I've seen some really cool, I'll have 1354 01:13:01,634 --> 01:13:02,634 to find this article, 1355 01:13:02,867 --> 01:13:06,100 but I think, you know, the city of Boston has some like 1356 01:13:06,533 --> 01:13:08,166 storage lockers where people can rent 1357 01:13:10,033 --> 01:13:11,266 the news or paddle boards. 1358 01:13:11,467 --> 01:13:14,734 So I think even having something as as simple as that 1359 01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,066 and would go a long way 1360 01:13:17,934 --> 01:13:19,000 - And so sorry to cut you off, 1361 01:13:19,033 --> 01:13:20,567 it builds on Pembroke's history 1362 01:13:20,567 --> 01:13:22,667 because it used to be like a vacation time. 1363 01:13:22,767 --> 01:13:24,834 Right, right. And so I feel like 1364 01:13:24,834 --> 01:13:27,266 that could be really powerful and a money maker. 1365 01:13:28,066 --> 01:13:30,000 So also yeah, that's also helpful. Yeah, 1366 01:13:30,634 --> 01:13:31,634 - Yeah, absolutely. 1367 01:13:31,900 --> 01:13:34,734 I totally agree and I think 1368 01:13:34,734 --> 01:13:36,166 that could be a great conversation to have 1369 01:13:36,166 --> 01:13:38,900 with the recreation committee in town. 1370 01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:41,767 - Yeah. Thank you for letting me know which committee? 1371 01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:44,367 I will write that down as well. Thank you. Yeah. 1372 01:13:57,533 --> 01:13:59,367 - So you have a couple of minutes left, Jennifer. 1373 01:13:59,467 --> 01:14:01,066 Not a lot of time, but do you have anything 1374 01:14:01,066 --> 01:14:04,634 that hasn't been touched on yet that you wanted to inquire 1375 01:14:04,667 --> 01:14:06,066 of the group that you have here? 1376 01:14:07,634 --> 01:14:10,867 - Yeah, so I guess one of our other 1377 01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:15,233 chapters was about natural resources. 1378 01:14:16,133 --> 01:14:18,033 So I would love to hear, you know, 1379 01:14:18,033 --> 01:14:20,734 we've talked a little bit about the recreational resources 1380 01:14:20,734 --> 01:14:24,033 that the town has, like town landing 1381 01:14:24,333 --> 01:14:28,767 and some of the Ponds and Lagoon Park and Hering Run Park. 1382 01:14:29,166 --> 01:14:30,233 So one of the things 1383 01:14:30,233 --> 01:14:33,066 that came up Repe repeatedly in the first public meeting 1384 01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:38,066 was the desire to have some connective trails between 1385 01:14:38,900 --> 01:14:41,867 these, between these facilities. 1386 01:14:41,934 --> 01:14:45,533 Is that something that, you know, you as the residents 1387 01:14:46,033 --> 01:14:47,867 feel strongly about that, you know, 1388 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,934 Pembroke should really focus on making some of these 1389 01:14:52,533 --> 01:14:55,066 more formal connections between these areas? 1390 01:14:56,233 --> 01:14:58,467 - That would be great. And actually something 1391 01:14:58,467 --> 01:15:00,934 that I've wanted having like been walked 1392 01:15:00,934 --> 01:15:02,300 around in them a bunch when I was little, 1393 01:15:02,867 --> 01:15:07,066 it would be awesome to be able to connect, like, you know, 1394 01:15:07,367 --> 01:15:08,667 I, it, it may connect, 1395 01:15:08,667 --> 01:15:11,867 but I'm not sure from the herring run to the, to the wild, 1396 01:15:13,166 --> 01:15:14,767 whatever that thing is, I keep forgetting the 1397 01:15:14,767 --> 01:15:16,066 name. Wild, wild 1398 01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:17,333 - Wildlands Trust. 1399 01:15:17,667 --> 01:15:20,233 - Thank you. I, the street next to me is Wildwood, 1400 01:15:20,266 --> 01:15:21,433 so that's all I wanted to say. 1401 01:15:23,266 --> 01:15:26,033 Thank you. Yeah, so having that connection 1402 01:15:26,066 --> 01:15:28,000 or you know, between Tubbs Meadow 1403 01:15:28,066 --> 01:15:32,000 and another, you know, maybe behind the, that connects 1404 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,700 to the high school even, I feel like that could be great. 1405 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,433 - Absolutely. Yeah. 1406 01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:40,233 That's definitely something that we highlighted in the 1407 01:15:40,233 --> 01:15:42,467 report, so I just wanted to confirm there community too. 1408 01:15:42,467 --> 01:15:45,000 Like, I think there's great benefits to having connections 1409 01:15:45,066 --> 01:15:48,500 between, between these Yeah. 1410 01:15:48,634 --> 01:15:52,500 You know, value places. Yeah, I see Chris has his hand up. 1411 01:15:54,266 --> 01:15:58,433 - Thanks. I, so yeah, the, the public land and access to it. 1412 01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:00,500 I've been a resident of Pembroke since 96 1413 01:16:00,634 --> 01:16:02,934 and it's something that my family and 1414 01:16:03,033 --> 01:16:05,133 and myself use quite quite a bit. 1415 01:16:05,133 --> 01:16:08,033 Whether it's just, you know, walking through their solo 1416 01:16:08,166 --> 01:16:10,233 or with our dogs or, or whatever it might be. 1417 01:16:11,033 --> 01:16:13,467 The thing that I, I, I'm interested about is 1418 01:16:14,934 --> 01:16:18,066 accessing public land for the use of hunting. 1419 01:16:18,867 --> 01:16:22,133 So was there any discussion given, 1420 01:16:22,367 --> 01:16:26,700 or anybody, you know, in the initial meetings where, 1421 01:16:27,834 --> 01:16:29,033 where that was brought up? 1422 01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:32,834 I think connecting some of these properties like Willowbrook 1423 01:16:32,934 --> 01:16:34,667 and, and you know, the herring run 1424 01:16:34,734 --> 01:16:36,767 and all that sort of stuff is, is great. 1425 01:16:37,834 --> 01:16:41,166 My concern would be that as we, you know, spread out 1426 01:16:42,333 --> 01:16:45,100 and bring pathways to connect these places, 1427 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:49,367 that we lose access to the minimal public land 1428 01:16:49,367 --> 01:16:53,033 that we have presently for the purpose of game hunting. 1429 01:16:55,266 --> 01:16:56,867 - That is a great question 1430 01:16:57,100 --> 01:17:00,100 and something I would have to get back to you on, 1431 01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:04,166 because I actually, that wasn't really brought up in many 1432 01:17:04,166 --> 01:17:08,367 of the conversations that we had with stakeholders, 1433 01:17:09,066 --> 01:17:11,033 like with the recreation committee. 1434 01:17:11,133 --> 01:17:14,066 I would really like to learn more about that. 1435 01:17:14,834 --> 01:17:16,266 So do you know, can you tell me 1436 01:17:16,266 --> 01:17:19,000 where hunting is currently permitted? 1437 01:17:20,066 --> 01:17:23,000 - So certainly, you know, private land providing it, it is, 1438 01:17:23,066 --> 01:17:26,266 you know, in accordance with all distances from dwellings 1439 01:17:26,266 --> 01:17:28,033 and roads and all that good stuff. 1440 01:17:29,033 --> 01:17:33,033 There's some, you know, public land spots in town. 1441 01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:37,634 I don't know who's listening, so I'm kind of hesitant 1442 01:17:37,634 --> 01:17:39,634 to give it out in case I give a good spot. 1443 01:17:39,867 --> 01:17:43,166 But there's the old chip tech 1444 01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:48,900 location off of was Washington 1445 01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:52,000 and Pleasant Street, which is 200 and some odd acres. 1446 01:17:52,033 --> 01:17:53,867 It's the old stump town pond area. 1447 01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:57,033 I know there's a quite a few people that, that hunt out 1448 01:17:57,033 --> 01:17:59,367 that way, whether it's deer or, or waterfowl 1449 01:17:59,433 --> 01:18:02,767 or, you know, whatever during given seasons, obviously 1450 01:18:02,767 --> 01:18:05,300 that's not necessarily one of these, you know, areas 1451 01:18:05,333 --> 01:18:08,867 that I think we would, you know, maybe try to connect to. 1452 01:18:08,867 --> 01:18:10,367 Right. You know, other things, but, 1453 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,634 and there's other places around town. 1454 01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:14,567 - Yeah. - Yeah, 1455 01:18:15,333 --> 01:18:17,300 - I think it would just, yeah, all those connections would 1456 01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:18,367 have to be very mindful 1457 01:18:18,567 --> 01:18:21,066 and planned out so that 1458 01:18:21,767 --> 01:18:24,133 other activities on the area such as, yeah. 1459 01:18:24,133 --> 01:18:25,467 Game hunting or not. 1460 01:18:26,066 --> 01:18:27,767 - And I, it, it could be done 1461 01:18:27,767 --> 01:18:32,066 because I, I know like in in Norwell the town, you know, 1462 01:18:32,367 --> 01:18:35,300 a couple towns over, right? 1463 01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:40,000 They have similar, you know, similar open space areas 1464 01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:43,033 and conservation land and with trails and whatnot 1465 01:18:43,033 --> 01:18:46,166 and they, they do allow in certain, in certain areas, 1466 01:18:46,867 --> 01:18:49,166 you know, hunting on portions of those, you know, 1467 01:18:49,166 --> 01:18:50,934 of those properties where there are trails. 1468 01:18:50,934 --> 01:18:52,033 So it's, it can be done 1469 01:18:52,033 --> 01:18:54,300 and it can be done in a way that's, that's, you know, 1470 01:18:54,367 --> 01:18:57,934 effective and, and safe and, and easily managed. 1471 01:19:00,667 --> 01:19:02,133 - Right. Very good to know. Yeah. 1472 01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:04,233 Taking note of that right now. Thank you. 1473 01:19:05,467 --> 01:19:08,133 - I did see hunting one time in the report. 1474 01:19:08,567 --> 01:19:12,066 It was listed under, somebody listed it under 1475 01:19:12,567 --> 01:19:15,233 which recreation asset do you think the town needs? 1476 01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:17,100 I think it, but it was under other, 1477 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,934 so it seems like maybe there weren't too many 1478 01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:20,233 responses, but it did come up. 1479 01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:22,734 - Okay. Thank you Katrina. 1480 01:19:29,133 --> 01:19:30,634 And then, let's see, I know we're getting 1481 01:19:30,734 --> 01:19:31,834 to the end of our time here. 1482 01:19:32,266 --> 01:19:34,033 - I was gonna say, I think you only have four 1483 01:19:34,033 --> 01:19:35,300 or five minutes left to wrap up. 1484 01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:37,266 Is there any last one, you know, words? 1485 01:19:38,567 --> 01:19:40,033 - Well, I just wanted to thank you all for 1486 01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:42,033 your feedback tonight. 1487 01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:44,333 I think, you know, whether it's conversations about housing 1488 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,867 or recreational facilities 1489 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,367 or diversity 1490 01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:53,667 and inclusion, I think these are all very important comments 1491 01:19:53,934 --> 01:19:57,867 that we will integrate into the report after this time. 1492 01:19:58,033 --> 01:20:00,166 You know, this is a community driven report, 1493 01:20:00,166 --> 01:20:01,700 community oriented report. 1494 01:20:01,900 --> 01:20:04,500 So it's very important that we have these conversations 1495 01:20:04,567 --> 01:20:07,266 and I really appreciate you all, you know, 1496 01:20:07,266 --> 01:20:09,033 giving us this feedback today. 1497 01:20:11,734 --> 01:20:13,233 Katrina, I here have your hand up. 1498 01:20:14,467 --> 01:20:16,500 - Sorry. Yes, I was just gonna say, go ahead. 1499 01:20:17,033 --> 01:20:19,533 One thing, overall, I really appreciate the space 1500 01:20:19,567 --> 01:20:22,066 and the way that you designed the session, so thank you all. 1501 01:20:22,033 --> 01:20:23,567 I know a lot of work went into this. 1502 01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:27,634 One thing I was gonna say is just the need for 1503 01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:31,066 thinking about people across the lifespan, right? 1504 01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:34,066 From birth to, to, you know, end of life 1505 01:20:34,133 --> 01:20:37,367 and how we support all people, you know, babies, 1506 01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,266 toddlers, children, everybody. 1507 01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:41,934 - Just a few closing comments, 1508 01:20:42,533 --> 01:20:44,033 - Guys, to wrap up back to it. 1509 01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:47,000 - We're taking some time on Thursday. 1510 01:20:47,033 --> 01:20:48,100 Thank you Sabr evening to come out. 1511 01:20:48,233 --> 01:20:49,533 - Thank you Katrina too for your 1512 01:20:49,533 --> 01:20:50,533 - Thoughts and share your thoughts. 1513 01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:53,734 Had some really lively, interesting discussions tonight. So 1514 01:20:55,066 --> 01:20:59,000 - Again, your, your input is very much appreciated. 1515 01:20:59,467 --> 01:21:02,333 So in terms of our process, we are 1516 01:21:03,033 --> 01:21:05,133 on the last stretch of our process. 1517 01:21:05,667 --> 01:21:08,233 The plan is in a final draft format, 1518 01:21:08,667 --> 01:21:10,000 as you can see around the room. 1519 01:21:10,834 --> 01:21:14,033 So what we have in front of us for Julia and I 1520 01:21:14,033 --> 01:21:16,533 and the rest of the team, we're gonna take 1521 01:21:16,533 --> 01:21:19,367 what we heard tonight and go back and, 1522 01:21:19,367 --> 01:21:21,300 and do one final pass at the master plan 1523 01:21:22,066 --> 01:21:25,100 makes making any updates based on the, the comments 1524 01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:26,634 and discussions that we've had. 1525 01:21:27,467 --> 01:21:30,533 And, and that final document will be available for review. 1526 01:21:30,934 --> 01:21:32,300 So that's the planning process. 1527 01:21:34,266 --> 01:21:37,000 What comes after planning is implementing, 1528 01:21:37,667 --> 01:21:41,500 and that's a whole bigger challenge than planning, 1529 01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:45,100 which is okay, you have a lot of actions that have been 1530 01:21:46,033 --> 01:21:49,100 articulated, how do those get carried forward? 1531 01:21:49,467 --> 01:21:52,433 So we're gonna stay in touch with these, with the 1532 01:21:53,233 --> 01:21:56,166 master plan coordination committee in terms of 1533 01:21:56,266 --> 01:21:58,433 how they can work with the town government 1534 01:21:59,066 --> 01:22:02,367 to figure out the best approach to implementation. 1535 01:22:02,533 --> 01:22:04,900 And I've, I've had some good conversations about it tonight, 1536 01:22:05,533 --> 01:22:09,100 but I guess what I'll leave you with is that 1537 01:22:10,133 --> 01:22:14,100 it would be great if this plan doesn't become a collector 1538 01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:16,033 of dust on a shelf somewhere 1539 01:22:16,333 --> 01:22:19,433 because some plans do, that's what happens to some plans. 1540 01:22:20,734 --> 01:22:22,033 Other plans, not so much. 1541 01:22:22,033 --> 01:22:24,100 Other plans get implemented 1542 01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:28,133 because there's people who bring a lot of energy to the task 1543 01:22:28,233 --> 01:22:29,634 of taking what's in the plan 1544 01:22:30,066 --> 01:22:32,667 and making sure that they carry the ball down the field. 1545 01:22:33,467 --> 01:22:35,300 An example is the town of Westboro. 1546 01:22:35,734 --> 01:22:38,867 We prepare West Borough's master plan a few years ago. 1547 01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:43,166 We've been working with them since then in an advisory 1548 01:22:43,834 --> 01:22:47,333 capacity on implementing the actions from the master plan. 1549 01:22:47,767 --> 01:22:49,667 So every year they get a new list 1550 01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:51,266 of the top priority actions 1551 01:22:51,934 --> 01:22:54,133 and they find champions to carry them forward. 1552 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,567 So I implore you to find it in yourselves 1553 01:22:58,667 --> 01:23:00,066 and among yourselves and, 1554 01:23:01,033 --> 01:23:03,634 and working with each other to, to find 1555 01:23:03,667 --> 01:23:06,300 and harness that energy to carry these forward 1556 01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:08,300 because there's a lot of good ideas 1557 01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:09,700 that have come up in this process 1558 01:23:11,133 --> 01:23:13,066 and it's partially thanks to us, 1559 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,834 but largely thankful to you guys 1560 01:23:15,734 --> 01:23:17,266 for attending events like this 1561 01:23:17,266 --> 01:23:18,500 and sharing your thoughts with us. 1562 01:23:19,567 --> 01:23:23,266 So we look forward to continuing to be part of that dialogue 1563 01:23:23,367 --> 01:23:27,533 with you and making sure that you guys can find a way to, 1564 01:23:27,867 --> 01:23:31,634 to push things forward because these days everything is 1565 01:23:31,867 --> 01:23:35,033 changing so rapidly in the economy and housing 1566 01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:37,033 and the environment and everything else. 1567 01:23:37,734 --> 01:23:42,367 And it is absolutely imperative that you remain vigilant 1568 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,467 in your planning processes 1569 01:23:44,467 --> 01:23:48,033 and making sure that Pembroke remains resilient 1570 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,634 and in the face 1571 01:23:49,634 --> 01:23:51,467 of all these changes. So thank you all so much. 1572 01:23:52,300 --> 01:23:52,734 - Thank.