[0:17] We're good to go to our studio audience. [0:19] Okay, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to [0:21] the Penrook School Committee meeting [0:23] Tuesday, March 17th, 2026. Happy St. [0:26] Patrick's Day, one and all for [0:28] evacuation day to anyone in Suffach [0:30] County. Um hopefully if you're listening [0:32] to this in Suffach County, good luck to [0:33] you. Uh this meeting is being recorded. [0:35] If you have any questions, you can send [0:36] them to scinfrok12.org. [0:41] Would you all join me for the pledge of [0:43] allegiance? [0:46] >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the [0:48] United States of America and to the [0:51] republic for which it stands, one nation [0:54] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:57] justice for all. [0:59] >> Thank you very much. [1:02] Okay. Public comment. Anyone here to [1:04] publicly comment? Okay. No. Acknowledge [1:08] your schedule of visitors. I think we're [1:10] okay. [1:12] Superintendent, any adjustments to our [1:13] agenda? [1:14] >> Nope. [1:15] Communications [1:18] uh 2526 calendar. So, I received a lot [1:22] of communication um in regards to the [1:25] 2526 calendar and the dislike of the [1:28] idea that the final day of school for [1:30] the school year would be Monday, June [1:32] 22nd. Um there were several suggestions [1:35] that I received. Um some involved um [1:39] lengthening each of the day by days by [1:41] 15 minutes, using a virtual learning day [1:44] instead of a snow day. Um, I think the [1:47] one that had the most traction was [1:48] whether or not the school committee [1:49] would consider um reopening this year's [1:51] school calendar and shifting Friday, [1:54] April 3rd, Good Friday, to a student [1:56] day. Um, a couple things about that. Um, [2:02] our school calendar is set generally in [2:04] April of each year. Um, by law, we are [2:07] required to schedule for 180 school days [2:09] plus five inclement weather days. So, [2:12] from the beginning of this year, our [2:14] schedule has always been with the 185th [2:17] day being on Monday, June 22nd. I [2:20] appreciate that families have made [2:22] plans. Um, I would caution anyone to [2:24] make plans outside of what is the the [2:26] printed calendar um for the year, but [2:29] with that being said, if you have plans [2:31] on Monday, June 22nd, continue with your [2:35] plans. We are not sending the truency [2:37] officer to anyone's home for the last [2:38] day of school. Um, at the high school in [2:40] particular, the last day tends to be an [2:41] exam makeup day. Um, it's not a, you [2:44] know, a full student attendance day. Our [2:46] sixth grade students at the elementary [2:48] level have promotion night prior to the [2:50] last day of school. Um, and the last day [2:52] of school here in the district is a half [2:53] day no lunch. So, it is a very short day [2:55] across the board. Um, when you take a [3:00] day like Good Friday and switch it to a [3:02] work day, um, we did do that in um, [3:06] April of 2015. Um that year in [3:09] particular, we used seven snow days [3:10] prior to um Good Friday. We changed Good [3:14] Friday to a professional development day [3:16] for staff and then shifted a later day [3:19] in March to a student day. Um Good [3:22] Friday can be observed as a religious [3:25] day, a religious holiday for staff. When [3:27] we converted it to a professional [3:29] development day, we did have several [3:31] staff that put in for a religious [3:32] holiday. If we were to entertain the [3:35] idea of opening school on this April [3:37] 3rd, I cannot tell you how many staff [3:39] would be putting in for a religious [3:41] holiday for that day. I can't ask people [3:42] ahead of time. Um, so I think just [3:46] overall my stance on it is that it's day [3:49] 185. If we were talking about it being [3:51] day 186 or 187, opening the calendar may [3:55] make sense. I just think if you start [3:56] opening it ahead of that day 185 now [3:59] you've opened the door to then have that [4:01] conversation in future years short of [4:03] the mandated 185day calendar. [4:09] But I know you all have gotten feedback [4:10] from families too. Um I know that [4:13] there's some staff that have reached [4:14] out. There's definitely families that [4:15] have reached out. Um [4:19] >> well I know there's some concerns about [4:20] summer camps starting that Monday and um [4:23] >> go to summer camp. I got it. [4:25] >> I just say we can't tell you not to come [4:27] to school technically, but uh if you [4:28] have a summer camp commitment. Um and I [4:31] think they're worried about some of the [4:32] staff being able to work, but again, [4:34] it's an exam makeup day. [4:36] >> Well, at the at the high school, it's an [4:37] exam makeup day, but for the same [4:39] reason, there's definitely families that [4:40] have plans on Friday, April 3rd, as [4:42] well. [4:43] >> Um so shifting it to a student day at [4:46] this point would also cause a group of [4:48] families some sort of [4:49] >> disruption to their schedule and plans. [4:51] And I know in the past you've mentioned [4:53] like not to I've heard it mentioned at [4:56] this school committee meeting several [4:57] times not to plan things for that last [4:59] week in the case that there are snow [5:01] days. Um so [5:04] >> it's been a long time since we've used [5:05] them but they're there for a reason. [5:07] >> Yeah. Uh I would not want if we're going [5:11] around with our opinion um would not [5:13] want to change open up the school [5:15] calendar. I think we leave it the way [5:17] that it is knowing that some people [5:18] won't be able to make it on that last [5:20] day for plan reasons and that's okay and [5:23] a personal choice [5:25] >> and the questions I asked ahead of time [5:27] that I'm just going to ask again just to [5:29] make sure. So [5:31] >> we cannot have school on a federal [5:33] holiday. So Junth could not have school [5:35] even if we voted to make that a school [5:37] day. We're not allowed to. [5:38] >> And then what happens if devil's [5:42] advocate we have two more snow days? [5:44] What happens? [5:45] >> Um, so the state of Massachusetts [5:48] expects you to adjust your calendar for [5:52] snow days all the way up until miday. If [5:55] weather days or weather, not just snow, [5:57] if weather days happen after miday, [5:59] there is some parameters under which you [6:02] don't have to make up the time because [6:03] you're so used to the end so close to [6:05] the end of the school year. Um, if we [6:07] were to have additional weather days, I [6:10] don't want to use the word snow. Um, we [6:12] could talk about changing the calendar, [6:14] but without I mean we don't have any [6:17] other days left in there that you [6:19] >> we So in theory we would then have to [6:21] potentially go to school Tuesday, [6:23] Wednesday of that week. [6:24] >> Correct. Okay. [6:24] >> If we had more weather days. [6:25] >> So us change. So that's part of the [6:28] reasoning for not changing it now [6:30] because it could just end up [6:32] >> it could be a new point, right? We could [6:33] still end up with weather days. There [6:35] was that year that there was a giant [6:36] storm at April Fool's Day. 9 [6:39] >> and contractually the teachers can't [6:42] work past June 30th. [6:45] >> The [6:47] in Massachusetts you can't go to school [6:48] past. So it's not even our a collective [6:51] bargaining thing. It's a state. [6:52] >> If 180 days goes to July 1st that's not [6:56] possible. [6:57] >> No. Okay. [6:59] So just to clarify, there was a question around if we can go to school [7:03] on uh federal holidays or just [7:06] specifically Junth [7:07] >> total holiday. [7:08] >> Okay. [7:09] >> That Junth question did come up a few [7:11] years back because if you'll remember [7:12] Junth was declared a holiday mid school [7:14] year. It wasn't on our calendar when we [7:16] approved the calendar. Um so there was [7:18] some conversation that year on whether [7:19] or not we had to observe it or not. Um [7:22] we do [7:22] >> due to a midyear change. Understand? [7:23] >> Yeah. And it being that you know on for [7:26] us it being that it is still part of our [7:28] calendar you know a lot of places in the [7:30] country they're they're out anyway in [7:33] June so it doesn't affect them the way [7:34] it does like Massachusetts. So [7:37] >> do we have to take a vote on this or [7:39] >> No. So I don't have it on your agenda as [7:41] a voting item. If there was appetite of [7:43] the committee to take it as a voting [7:44] item. I would put it on your agenda next [7:46] week for it to be a voting item. [7:47] >> And this is all changes to the calendar [7:50] have to go through school committee. [7:52] >> You guys set the calendar. Y just making [7:54] that. [7:54] >> Yeah, I have no appetite to change it. I [7:57] think what you said makes sense and we [7:59] keep it as is. [8:00] >> Mhm. [8:01] >> Katrina. [8:02] >> Agreed. [8:02] >> Okay. [8:04] So, kind of called a moot issue. [8:06] >> Yeah. I just wanted to bring it up [8:07] because I know that I got several [8:08] emails. I know that there was a a [8:10] Facebook kind of campaign to like send [8:12] this email and I got several of them um [8:14] and staff asked questions. I proactively [8:16] did kind of survey staff and say if it [8:19] were a conversation, which way would you [8:21] lean? the bulk of the staff were leaning [8:23] towards scheduling an early release day [8:24] for Good Friday, but in the same breath, [8:26] I can't ask them if they're planning on [8:28] attending work that day. Um, so [8:32] >> got it. [8:33] >> Thank you. [8:34] >> Um, can I add something for [8:36] communications? [8:37] >> Sure. [8:37] >> Okay. Um, I know that the Pembroke um [8:40] community center recreation department [8:42] is looking for volunteers for their [8:44] Easter egg hunt event um as well as [8:47] people um to stuff the eggs and um to [8:50] purchase candy. So, if anyone's [8:52] interested, reach out to the recck [8:54] department. Um and then coming up on is [8:58] it April 2nd, David? [9:00] >> Yes. [9:00] >> There's a fundraiser um at Tiny and [9:03] Suns. [9:03] >> It's going to be at Tiny and Suns. [9:04] >> Is it at 6 [9:05] >> 6 to 8? six to eight uh fundraiser for [9:09] um uh the scholarship fund for David's [9:12] late wife. Um so if people are able to [9:14] come that would be fantastic. [9:15] >> Thank you very much. Very nice of you. [9:18] >> I actually self-promoting. I will be [9:19] doing a um an interview with Christine [9:22] James tomorrow on WATD at noon time. So [9:24] >> nice. [9:25] >> Thank you. [9:25] >> Excellent. [9:27] >> Um approval of bill schedule. [9:30] >> Um I don't think you got it yet. It'll [9:31] be good. Okay. Um okay. Okay, I'll take [9:34] a motion to accept the school committee [9:36] meetings for March 3rd. [9:38] >> So moved. [9:39] >> We have a second. [9:40] >> Second. [9:41] >> All those in favor? [9:42] >> I. [9:43] >> Any opposed? Any abstaining? 5-0. [9:47] Natalie. [9:49] Superintendent report. [9:51] >> So we have a lot of stuff under my [9:52] report this evening. We're going to [9:53] start with um our next installment of [9:55] budget presentations. And so up first we [9:57] have um Chapman and she's going to do [10:00] visual and performing arts. [10:02] I think you have a question, right? Yep. [10:04] It should work from your seat. MBTH and [10:06] I tried it. [10:07] >> Maybe it will. Maybe. [10:08] >> Good evening. [10:09] >> Hello. [10:09] >> It's always my pleasure to talk about [10:11] art and music. [10:12] >> So, we are going to start um with just [10:15] going over our goals for this year and [10:17] we're going to uh I'm going to share [10:19] some things about our accomplishments [10:21] going through staffing and enrollment [10:23] and then our maintenance of effort [10:25] budget and what our next steps will be. [10:29] So, celebrating goals, we're always um [10:33] out in the community doing our concerts, [10:36] having students be able to share their [10:38] wonderful artwork. Um so, we do [10:41] celebrate community by singing at [10:43] Veterans Day, um marching in the parade [10:47] this year for the first time on Veterans [10:49] Day, which was wonderful. Uh and our art [10:51] shows that will be coming up um this [10:53] spring. So, we're excited about that. As [10:55] far as our pathways go, um I [10:58] participated uh at the middle school in [11:01] late uh oh no, it was early March and [11:03] presented to the eighth graders [11:05] everything about the music and art [11:06] classes and about the pathways. So, we [11:09] always um look forward to be able to [11:11] reach them and there's a uh video also [11:14] on the visual and performing arts uh web [11:17] page for people if they want to refer [11:19] back to that. Um excited to share that [11:21] we've had our first student finish the [11:24] music pathway this year. He did a uh [11:26] independent study uh composition and uh [11:30] wrote his own piece, wrote a labretto, [11:32] wrote the own his own piece, performed [11:34] it, videotaped it. Um so we were able to [11:37] have a videotape and a score. So that's [11:39] kind of exciting. Um, and as far as PD [11:42] goes, our visual art educators K through [11:45] 12 are finishing the second year of [11:47] their uh, art of education university. [11:50] And so they have the opportunity to um, [11:53] self- select pro packs on many related [11:57] topics to what they're teaching or [11:59] something that they're interested in [12:00] exploring that they don't currently um, [12:03] do. And so that has just the feedback [12:05] from that has been tremendous and we [12:06] hope to that's one of our goals uh for [12:09] pre cons um years coming up that we'd [12:11] like to be able to continue that um [12:15] availment of their program there for the [12:17] art of education university. We've had [12:20] teachers participate at MASCU, our uh [12:22] National Association for Art Educators, [12:25] and at the MAA MEA. I'm I'm headed up to [12:28] All State uh this coming Friday with [12:30] three lovely high school students that [12:32] got into the chorus there. So, that [12:34] conference is happening this coming [12:35] weekend. And again, I always do reach [12:38] out to the staff, especially at the end [12:39] of the year, to find out what they [12:41] particularly would like to have targeted [12:43] for PD. Um so, that helps us plan for [12:46] the the next year coming up. [12:50] uh celebrating our accomplishments. So [12:53] really excited that eight out of 10 of [12:55] our AP studio art students this year [12:57] earned a qualifying score last spring on [13:00] their exam portfolio. It's just an [13:03] amazing breath of work that they have to [13:05] prepare and submit for that. Uh we've [13:07] had PHS artist exhibit works at the [13:10] Boston Globe Scholastic Art Show, [13:12] emerging young artists at UMass [13:14] Dartmouth, Congressman Keading Journeyed [13:16] Art Show and the Scholastic Art and [13:18] Writing Awards. And currently we have 10 [13:21] students enrolled in the digital arts [13:23] pathway and seven students in the music [13:25] pathway. [13:27] We also had a number of students this [13:29] year uh be selected. This is Tyler K's [13:32] uh photograph called Beauty and Fall. um [13:35] and he won a gold um award for that. But [13:38] we've had a number of students there [13:40] listed, you can see that had their art [13:42] selected at the Boston Globe [13:43] Scholastics. [13:45] We had a number of students um enter the [13:48] emerging young artist and designers [13:50] award um at the UMass Dartmouth and they [13:54] you can see there how many it was [13:56] wonderful to have that recognition as [13:58] well for those students. [14:00] Um for the first time last year we took [14:03] place um we took part in the Attalboro [14:06] uh art installation exam um art museum [14:10] contest and I'm proud to say that PHS [14:13] took first place. So it was the first [14:15] time we ever entered and this was done [14:17] uh mostly by our art club our afterchool [14:20] group uh led by two of our students. So [14:22] they uh two of our teachers they created [14:25] this um [14:29] what you want to say this exhibit this uh piece collectively. It was done [14:35] with a lot of 3D materials and then they [14:38] went down and actually did the [14:39] installation. They had to move each [14:41] piece separately and then install it [14:43] down there and they and they actually [14:45] took first place. So we were really [14:46] excited about that. It was the first [14:48] time that we had been involved in that. [14:50] One of our teachers had done this [14:51] previous in another school system and [14:54] brought it to our attention and so we [14:55] entered and look what they did. It was [14:57] pretty amazing. [14:58] >> Awesome. [14:59] >> Also, our music department is always [15:01] very busy. Um especially our uh [15:04] elementary teachers, our band um Mr. Haw [15:08] take likes to do lots of outreach and extra things for our students. So, [15:13] they've already performed at a BC game [15:15] this year and they have plans to go to [15:17] Fenway Park. We've done the TD Garden [15:19] and Celtics. We perform at Derby shops. [15:22] They're looking to do um we uh excuse [15:25] me, the middle school um and through the [15:27] high school are going to Music in the [15:28] Parks on May 1st this year. And we've [15:31] also had groups uh the elementary [15:34] choruses went to sing at New England [15:36] Village as well as our middle school [15:37] jazz band to perform for the residents [15:39] there. And they also the middle school [15:41] did Providence Bruins this past January. [15:45] >> That's awesome. [15:46] This is just a picture of our cast and [15:48] crew of Susicle that we did in the fall [15:51] that we also included students in grades [15:54] five and six, which was a lot of fun to [15:57] um have our younger students uh be [16:00] involved in some theater. And our music [16:02] students have been busy um preparing for [16:05] festivals. So, we've had 15 students [16:07] accepted this year to our senior [16:09] district festival, which was in January. [16:11] Four students just went last weekend to [16:14] our um two weekends ago, I'm sorry, to [16:16] junior district as well as our own Greg [16:18] Tarbox who was the orchestra director [16:21] this year for Southeast District, which [16:23] is fantastic. We've had three students [16:26] accepted to All State. I take them this [16:28] weekend. And just last weekend, we had [16:30] 21 students accepted to uh senior SEMSA. [16:34] And so they performed down in Plymouth [16:36] and our own Austin Glass is the [16:38] president of SEMSA this year. So we are very engaged. [16:43] Our current staffing is has not changed. [16:46] So we have two uh full-time teachers at [16:49] each of the elementary schools, one [16:51] visual art and one music teacher. At the [16:54] middle school, we have one visual art [16:56] teacher and 1.2 music teachers. So [16:59] that's Mr. Tarbox doing his string [17:02] program there. At the high school, we [17:04] have three full-time MU uh art teachers [17:07] and 1.8 8 music teachers. So that's a [17:10] full-time teacher. I myself teach 04 and [17:13] then another teacher teaches point4 to [17:16] get to that number. And at the [17:17] elementary level, we have two [17:19] instrumental music teachers, a full-time [17:21] band instrumental teacher and a 2 string [17:25] teacher. I don't know if you have any [17:27] questions there about staffing. [17:31] Our instrumental enrollment at the [17:33] elementary school, we really like to [17:34] look at these numbers. They have been [17:36] holding nice and steady. I'm glad to say [17:39] even with our declining ro enrollment um [17:42] and just kind of a breakdown overall in [17:44] that 174 number we're looking at about [17:47] um 35 strings in the grade five six um [17:51] if you were curious about how that broke [17:53] down. Um but that that's the total [17:56] enrollment. So um we're kind of I like [17:59] to say the only game in town in grades [18:01] five and six. So we're we're kind of [18:03] happy that a lot of students do choose [18:05] to try an instrument. Um there is a [18:08] little bit of attrition between five and [18:09] six and then six to seven. Um but we're [18:12] so glad that so many families and um are [18:15] supporting their children in making that [18:17] decision to try an instrument and to see [18:19] what that is like. [18:23] Uh the current VPA class enrollment at [18:26] the middle school and the high school, [18:28] there's not a lot of change from last [18:30] year from the middle school art and [18:32] music. You can see our numbers there. [18:35] And at the high school, uh, we have [18:36] about a 5% increase in both music and [18:39] art. So, I would attribute this to two [18:42] things. Yeah, we're excited about that. [18:44] One, of course, is the new VPA [18:46] graduation requirement that you all [18:48] voted on last year. And also um for the [18:51] music classes, having the ensembles, um [18:55] having the ability to take it just as a [18:58] semester class in the fall really did [19:00] help us capture some students that [19:02] wouldn't have otherwise um been able to [19:05] fill it fit it in if it was a full year. [19:07] So uh we had a lot of students say thank [19:09] you for that. And um the ones that did [19:11] it a half year, I know for myself are [19:13] like I have to do it a full year next [19:15] year. I just, you know, so we're hoping [19:17] that that continues. you know, if the there are constraints in the [19:21] schedule, but it allows students to have [19:23] that uh opportunity and to get kind of [19:26] invested in the music department and [19:28] kind of see what it's all about. So, [19:30] that has been really wonderful. So, [19:31] we're pretty happy with those numbers. [19:34] Awesome. [19:35] And we're not asking for anything [19:37] addition um this year. We're just [19:40] looking to do what we currently do at [19:42] next year's prices. So our maintenance [19:44] of effort, you can see the bulk of our [19:46] um instructional supplies is the bulk of [19:50] our budget because we have a lot of art [19:52] consumables. Once we use those, they're [19:54] gone and we need to purchase them again. [19:57] Um transportation, we do provide all the [19:59] transportation to all the festivals that [20:02] we do. Um per mass principles [20:04] association, students are not allowed to [20:06] drive themselves to those festivals. So, [20:08] we have to uh provide chaperoned uh [20:11] transportation to and from all of the [20:13] festivals and the auditions that we do. [20:15] >> Um I don't know if you have any [20:17] particular questions. There's a graph of [20:19] kind of how how it looks uh with a [20:22] breakdown between middle school, [20:24] elementary school, and high school. [20:26] tends to be a little bit [20:28] more expensive, especially for art. as [20:31] they're going through the art program, [20:34] uh, our our projects and things get much [20:36] more sophisticated as far as the [20:38] materials that they need to use. We also [20:42] take care of um a lot of the maintenance [20:44] of instruments. We have many, many [20:46] school-born instruments that were um [20:48] even allowed to uh rent, not rent, but u [20:52] let students use that may not otherwise [20:54] afford it. So, we just have them fill [20:56] out um a rent a little form that they've [20:59] taken a certain they're all serialn [21:01] numbered all of our instruments, but [21:02] sometimes they come back when we need to [21:05] make sure that they stay in working [21:06] order. Um so, we do have to um and we [21:09] have the pianos tuned and things like [21:11] that. So, [21:14] and then our we um our next steps, we [21:19] are very excited that we're going to [21:20] implement an AP digital photography [21:23] course next fall. That will be open in [21:26] for students in grades 10, 11, 12. They [21:28] will have had to taken digital [21:30] photography as a semester for a [21:32] prerequisite. Um but there's a lot of [21:34] buzz about that among the students. [21:36] They're very excited about that course. [21:38] So I I expect that we'll see some some [21:41] good um enrollment there. And we are [21:44] always always thinking about [21:46] recruitment. We are an completely [21:48] elective department other than the 0.2 [21:52] graduation requirement at the high [21:53] school. So to capture students, we we [21:57] really do as much as we can. things like [21:59] doing Susicle, having the younger grades [22:01] come in, doing the all town concerts [22:03] like we put on last week where we're [22:05] letting especially caregivers and the [22:08] students see what is it going to be like [22:10] if you stay in the programs. We plan [22:12] trips. We try to do things that are fun [22:14] to um give outreach but also to give [22:17] them that extra experience. You know, [22:19] you have to make it it has to be fun, [22:21] you know, to be to be involved. So, we [22:23] are continuing to think about ways um [22:27] that we can always reach those students. [22:29] But I would say to caregivers too, it [22:31] it's up to them too to help support and [22:34] to make those decisions. I would say [22:36] especially six to seven and grades 8 to [22:39] nine. Sometimes it is the caregiver [22:42] giving that extra why don't you just try [22:44] it and see what happens because the [22:46] experience might be different than what [22:47] you had in the previous school. So, um, [22:50] I would just encourage people to stay [22:51] with it so we can see those numbers [22:54] continue to grow. We did have quite a [22:56] number of eighth graders do marching [22:58] band this year for the first time and so [23:00] we'd like to continue that for next [23:02] year. We also have our color guard um [23:05] involvement and actually Miss Haley just [23:08] went and performed with the elementary [23:09] color guard at NESPA and they did really [23:12] well. They got a gold medal last [23:13] weekend. So, that's the first time. [23:15] Thank you for your support, Mrs. Zobie [23:17] for that um helping there pay for all [23:20] the dues and everything, but that was [23:22] the first time that we had the younger [23:23] color guard compete. So, they did [23:25] fabulous. So, we'd like to see that come [23:27] up so the seventh and eighth graders can [23:29] be a part of the color guard uh in the [23:31] fall as well. And like I mentioned [23:33] before, I I really would like to keep um [23:36] the offering of the art of education [23:39] university. I believe the line item is [23:41] actually going to be in the teaching and [23:42] learning PD budget. Um, but it's kind of [23:45] short money for a two-year um, [23:47] commitment for all of our art teachers [23:49] to be able to have that targeted [23:51] professional development. That's the [23:53] thing I hear from the staff the most is [23:55] that sometimes it's not always music and [23:57] art specific. So, this is a way we can [23:59] really offer um, and to move their own [24:02] professional practice forward uh, having [24:05] those options. So, that's [24:08] slid [24:11] questions. Yeah, I just wanted to say um [24:14] fantastic job. You know, seeing the [24:16] increase in music and art enrollment is [24:17] really to be celebrated and uh credit to [24:20] all the work that you and others have [24:22] done to get there. [24:23] >> Um and then I just wanted to mention to [24:25] highlight I know you said Mr. Mr. House, [24:28] >> Mr. Hos, [24:28] >> Mr. Haw. Okay, there we go. Mr. Haw. Um [24:31] having those elementary performances in [24:33] different places, right? Like I think [24:35] that's also going to um create those [24:37] core memories for those students to be [24:39] able to want to continue in high school. [24:40] And so I just wanted to [24:41] highlight that. That's fantastic. Um, [24:43] continuing to do those and it's [24:45] wonderful that he seeks those [24:47] opportunities out. Um, and yeah, that [24:50] was it. Just excited to see the increase [24:52] in enrollment and ideas for the future. [24:54] >> Thank you very much. Thank you. [24:56] >> Alison, [24:57] >> does the school own uh the cameras like [25:00] digital cameras? Are these like for the [25:01] or the kids own them and are [25:03] >> it's a combination of like cell phone? [25:05] No, we do own digital cameras and iPads [25:08] that they use in the digital the digital [25:10] classes [25:10] >> and they're learning because you know I [25:12] grew up doing film processing and all [25:14] that. Do they get to do any of that? [25:16] >> You mean like a dark room situation? We [25:18] don't do that. Okay. We don't have the [25:20] capability, [25:20] >> but but they're still I know I know but [25:23] I know there's other photography classes [25:25] that still do that but they're still [25:27] learning you know the aperture and the [25:30] >> they are they are so with the digital [25:32] and they a lot of it as times they're [25:34] taking it into Photoshop or using [25:35] Procreate on the iPad so that they can [25:38] learn to manipulate as well. So, not [25:39] only are they doing all of the um you [25:42] know, rules of thirds and all of that [25:43] with the digital work, but then they're [25:45] able to do it both physically and um [25:48] with the computers. [25:49] >> Okay, very cool. [25:51] >> Thank you. [25:51] >> So, well, uh you know, I'm going to echo [25:54] what Katrina said about the, you know, [25:55] recruitment and, you know, getting the [25:57] numbers up. I think that's fantastic. I [25:59] love having that you have the eighth [26:01] graders join. I think that's probably [26:03] key, [26:04] >> you know. Yeah, absolutely. And, um [26:06] obviously Mr. Pause does an amazing job [26:08] every year. So, um I just wanted to, you [26:11] know, we had like a really interesting [26:13] conversation today in budget sub about [26:16] um what PAPA does and how they [26:18] contribute financially because they do a [26:19] lot of fundraising and I thought it's [26:22] this is an a good time to just let [26:24] people know what they do. So, I was [26:25] explaining that sometimes like they [26:26] bought the trailer uh for the [26:29] instruments, they bought um you know [26:32] they do like a lot of fundraising. They [26:33] you know they do the mattress sale. They [26:36] do, especially when we're planning our [26:38] big trips like next April. But even with [26:40] music in the parks coming up, students [26:41] have the a chance. So, we're not allowed [26:44] to fund raise as a department, of [26:45] course. So, it's all done through um POPA or the booster group. [26:49] So, they um plan out kind of depending [26:53] on what the trip year is, um they plan a [26:56] number of different fundraisers that [26:57] students and families can get uh [26:59] involved in so that students can help to [27:01] offset that course. And what they [27:02] decided this fall um was because we're [27:05] doing a big trip next April, our our [27:07] Florida trip, that students could bank [27:09] that money so they could work multiple [27:12] years towards offsetting the cost of a big trip. But yeah, they've they've [27:16] been incredible. They've bought color [27:18] guard flags. They've bought wireless [27:20] microphones. They've bought the trailer, [27:22] which is huge for us when we have to go [27:24] to do a parade or like going to Florida. [27:27] We take we send the equipment truck down [27:30] so that we don't have to check all those [27:31] instruments and play all those extra [27:33] fees. They actually arrive safely. [27:36] >> Um but it does save a ton of money [27:38] having uh parents volunteer. They they [27:40] just do so much for us. They're a [27:42] wonderful organization. [27:44] >> I feel like they bought a couple of [27:45] instruments here and there too. [27:46] >> They have bought instruments in the [27:47] past. [27:48] >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for thanks for [27:50] they almost try to fund every everything [27:52] that we ask for and of course they fund [27:54] awards as well and the senior [27:56] scholarships that happen. So [27:58] >> yes absolutely okay thank you so much [28:01] >> Katrina [28:01] >> nothing to add. Thank you so much. [28:03] >> You're welcome. [28:03] >> Well just closing comment is a lot of [28:06] time people talk about the penro public [28:08] schools two things that come up are the [28:10] music program and I will defer to my [28:12] good friend over here Brian the sports [28:14] programs. Um a lot of parents are [28:16] thrilled and a lot of out of town [28:17] parents are jealous. So, [28:21] >> Brian, I think we're on to you, sir. [28:23] >> Before I let Brian start, I'm going to [28:25] let Gwen go. I know she was traveling [28:26] today and [28:28] >> thank you. [28:29] very much for all your work. [28:30] >> Well done. [28:31] >> Have a great day. [28:32] >> Thank you, Gwen. [28:35] >> Make sure this works. [28:41] » All right, we'll jump right into [28:42] athletics. Thanks for having me tonight. [28:43] I put this picture on this slide. really [28:45] encapsulates a lot of what I feel about [28:48] our athletic program right now. And it's [28:50] interesting because I feel like this [28:52] senior group, our student athletes in [28:53] general, this senior group is so dynamic [28:56] and they're so connected and they're so [28:58] they're connected in a way that I [28:59] haven't seen any group we've had in the [29:01] past where there's no silos, there's no [29:02] clicks, there's no this group and that [29:04] group, there's no teams. Our student [29:06] athletes seem so connected in the senior [29:08] class. Like I feel like I could talk [29:10] about them all day cuz they just [29:11] >> they fulfill what you want them to look [29:13] like. Um, so that's why I put this [29:14] picture on here. They've, this [29:16] volleyball team had a ton of success. [29:18] That's honestly helps. But their [29:20] connectedness just kind of shows and how [29:22] I feel that our student athletes are [29:24] right now. So this slide, any any um [29:28] sports night that I do, I I show this [29:30] slide. So some of you might have seen it [29:31] before. People might get sick of it, but [29:33] I think it's critical that we define our [29:35] why of what we're trying to accomplish, [29:36] what we're trying to do each and every [29:38] season. And we go over this. This is [29:40] really our philosophy with it's a [29:41] student athlete center model. We can see [29:42] them in the middle and there's three [29:44] principles below it of educational based [29:46] athletics, competitive excellence and [29:47] transformational coaches. And it really [29:49] takes these three areas to be aligned to [29:52] come together and have belief to achieve [29:54] what we want to achieve. And that's [29:55] creating a great environment. That's [29:57] having a great experience for all [29:58] student athletes and educational based [30:00] athletics. Um, which you'll see on this [30:02] next slide right here is really we want [30:05] our athletes to win in the classroom [30:06] first, right? We have extreme um [30:09] academic and rigorous standards that [30:10] they need to take care of. They need to [30:11] make sure obviously they're they're [30:13] passing their coursework and doing great [30:14] in the classroom before they can be an [30:16] athlete at Penrook High School. So just [30:18] some data to support and some evidence [30:20] to support how well our student athletes [30:21] are doing. This is from the class of [30:23] 2026 [30:24] um that grade 10, grade 11, and grade [30:27] 12, 28 of the top 30 um highest ranking [30:31] students are all student athletes, which [30:32] is tremendous, right? They're checking [30:33] that box. That's what we want them to [30:35] do. 31 of 36 of the NHS inductees are [30:39] student athletes. So, they're checking [30:40] that box again. Those are all the things [30:41] that we want them to be great students [30:43] first using a uh academics as an [30:46] extension of athletics. And then the [30:48] next piece, you know, you can see on [30:49] there that we had 17 student athletes [30:51] commit to play college athletics, which [30:53] is just a a benefit and a bonus to [30:55] having great kids, a great program, and [30:57] they've put in the work to achieve those [30:59] things to to get to that next level. [31:02] The next piece of that uh that first [31:04] slide, that Y slide is, as you can see [31:07] up here, is our competitive excellence [31:08] piece. And I could talk once again about [31:10] our student athletes all day, but it [31:13] just shows, and just to put this into [31:15] context, this um presentation covers our [31:18] spring 25 season, our fall 25 season, [31:21] and our winter 2526 season. So, it does [31:23] not cover the spring season that we're heading into right now. So all [31:27] these awards are from those three [31:28] seasons. But you can see through this [31:30] winter time, Alyssa Marcella, thousand [31:32] point scorer, Logan Shipper, 100 career [31:34] wins, Kevin Mur 100 career points. Those [31:36] three tremendous individual awards will [31:38] have banners put up in the gymnasium for [31:40] them so they can accomplish those and [31:41] come back and see those accomplishments [31:43] and what happened. So super excited [31:45] about those three. I think Alyssa was [31:47] the only four the fourth person in [31:48] Pemrook um basketball history to eclipse [31:51] that mark and she went over 1100. 112 [31:53] was her career number. So, a tremendous [31:55] career for for PER girls basketball. Uh, [31:58] state champion shot putter, a ton of [32:00] Patriot League MVPs, girls and boys out [32:02] to a track, girls tennis, boys soccer, [32:04] boys into a track, and girls basketball. [32:06] Um, so each side of the Patriot League [32:08] gets one MVP selected and that's voted [32:10] on by the coaches in that division. So, [32:12] it just shows how what they provide to [32:14] the league, not just the Penrook, but [32:15] the whole entire Patriot League, the 12 [32:17] member league that we're in. Boys and [32:19] girls track, we're outdoor track stay [32:21] runner up, not a surprise to many. um [32:23] eight Patriot League Fisher Division [32:24] titles, 82 Patri League All-Stars, 12 [32:27] teams qualifying for the state [32:28] tournament, six of them being a round of [32:31] 16 finalist, four round of eight [32:32] finalist, and then finally, we're the [32:35] fifth uh we're fifth in the Patriot [32:36] League in the Boston Globes Classic [32:37] standings. So, the only schools in front [32:39] of us are Marshfield, Ducksberry, [32:41] Hangingham, and Hanover. So, we're that [32:43] fifth school. So, we're we're above a [32:45] bunch of, you know, highly competitive [32:46] schools like Situ and some others that [32:48] are around us. And um this past year has [32:50] been tremendous. And that that [32:52] scholastic standings is a win- loss [32:53] result from your fall, your winter, and [32:55] your spring season. It's an aggregate [32:57] number that they put together. So [32:59] overall, this this winter, the fall, and [33:02] the spring have been certainly a time of [33:04] a lot of competitive excellence that we [33:05] chase, but I think the important part of [33:07] that competitive excellence side is that [33:09] I truly believe the platform of [33:11] athletics is the greatest tool that we [33:13] have to really teach the things that are [33:15] necessary to be successful in life. [33:16] There's no shortcuts to be successful in [33:18] life. There's no shortcuts to be [33:20] successful in sports. And I really think [33:21] that platform that we have that our [33:23] coaches are providing, um, our student [33:25] athletes are are putting in the work, [33:27] they're being committed, they're being [33:28] resilient, they're they're working [33:30] through adversity. I think those are all [33:31] the things that we want all our students [33:34] to to have. And I think the platform [33:36] that we have here at Penrook has just [33:38] been doing a great job for for our [33:40] student athletes. [33:43] >> Next slide. A little bit of of community [33:45] service. Obviously, this is just as [33:47] important as anything that any of our [33:49] student athletes do. But we we hosted [33:51] Morgan's message this year for the first [33:52] time our girls basketball team. Um, and [33:56] Morgan's message is really a nationwide [33:58] message to kind of fight the stigma of [34:00] mental health. And it just helps support [34:02] um and get the the voice out and the [34:04] word out and exposure out to mental [34:06] health and who's fighting it and that [34:08] you have help and there's people there [34:09] that are willing to help you and ask for [34:11] help and it's okay. So, we hosted that [34:13] night u when we played Norwell in [34:14] basketball. We had a great turnout. Uh [34:17] it was a great first time that we've [34:18] done it and we're certainly going to do [34:19] that in the future moving forward. Our [34:21] boys hockey team, uh they played a game [34:23] that was dedicated to local food pantry. [34:25] They spent a ton of time with those [34:27] folks donating hours um doing whatever [34:29] they can with with with that group and [34:31] um they've done a great job. Our [34:33] volleyball hosted their pink night which [34:35] they do annually for cancer awareness. [34:37] Uh we have a ton of youth camps that we [34:39] host from uh pretty much year round, [34:42] mainly in the summertime, but we host [34:44] some during some school breaks and some [34:46] holidays and you know extra dates we can [34:48] get in. But we had some youth camps for [34:49] soccer, both boys and girls, basketball, [34:52] lacrosse, cheerleading, baseball, and [34:53] softball. So that that importance of [34:55] getting our youth connected with our [34:57] high school aged um folks is is is [35:00] something that we need. We're obviously [35:01] not the biggest town. So when we can [35:02] create those connections and those [35:04] relationships early on, I think they [35:05] really pay dividends down the road. and [35:07] something our our kids and our coaches [35:09] are doing a great job with. And then [35:11] lastly, Alyssa Marcelo, once again to [35:13] shout her out, she was a member of the [35:14] MIA student advisory committee. There's [35:16] only 26 student advisory committee in [35:18] the entire state. It's a super rigorous [35:20] um path to get there. You have a resume. [35:23] You need to go through an interview [35:23] process with the MIA executive director. [35:26] They have monthly meetings at in [35:28] Franklin MA headquarters. They they give [35:30] back a ton. In this picture, you [35:32] probably can't really see it well, but [35:33] she actually spoke. This was at Gillette [35:35] Stadium at the 31st um annual [35:37] sportsmanship summit in front of like a [35:39] thousand people and just that experience [35:41] alone was was awesome and once again [35:43] just representing what we're about at [35:44] Pemrook and doing a great job [35:47] >> uh in that role. [35:50] >> All right, moving forward. I don't know [35:51] if that top piece is on there, but I [35:53] think you have it in your slide. So, [35:54] this is going to start with the fall [35:55] sports really our five-year um numbers [35:57] from 2021 up to 2025 participation wise. [36:01] Um, nothing drastic and major in here. I [36:04] think you see our percentage of [36:05] enrollment for athletics. We're down 1% [36:08] from our 5-y year roll on average. So, [36:10] nothing that's um drastic one way or the [36:12] other. I think this is probably pretty [36:14] consistent and and steady um expectation [36:17] of where I hope we're at. That 40% [36:19] number and above is is a healthy number [36:20] and something that we we push to to keep [36:23] going. Um the biggest drop off from the [36:25] fall 2025 to 2024, girls soccer was down [36:29] about nine. uh student athletes and [36:31] football was down about seven. So that's [36:33] that was a 16ish uh student athlete [36:35] reduction from year-over-year. And then [36:38] um volleyball has actually become pretty [36:40] much our most robust and popular sport [36:42] in the fall. We have we offer three [36:43] levels of freshman JV and varsity. We [36:45] have to make cuts unfortunately because [36:46] we have so many girls who uh and boys [36:49] who try out for that team which is [36:50] awesome. Uh but it's a super it's [36:52] healthy, it's growing and it's um it's [36:54] been a great experience for all athletes [36:57] moving forward. [36:59] the that looks like it's fall right [37:02] there. [37:02] >> There we go. Winter, [37:04] >> same thing. Five-year averages from 2021 [37:07] to our current winter that we just [37:09] finished up last week. The winter sports [37:11] numbers are down slightly more um in [37:15] terms of from last year, but really that [37:17] number last year I think had a lot of [37:18] noise in it. I don't think it had much [37:19] signal. that that uh indoor track number [37:22] had like 125 last year [37:26] >> where our 5-year average was like [37:27] between 95 and 100 right in that range [37:30] >> and that's where we're back at this [37:31] year. So it looks like we're down kind [37:33] of a healthy chunk but I think there was [37:35] a lot of noise in that number from last [37:36] year. I don't expect it to be that high [37:38] moving forward which kind of shows where [37:40] that drop off is coming from. But once [37:42] again we're above that 40% threshold [37:44] which is I think a critical number a [37:46] number that we're trying to stay at and [37:47] above moving forward. [37:51] spring. So, I just updated this with our [37:54] actually our current spring numbers. [37:55] Spring sports started yesterday. Can't [37:57] believe that the field's out there on [37:58] spring like, but uh we're doing our [38:00] best. These numbers are are pretty [38:02] accurate. We had about 13 uh folks [38:05] register between yesterday and today. [38:07] So, we're still we're still adding to [38:08] this, which is a good thing. Um [38:09] registration, although I put a deadline [38:11] on it, it never seems to close. We're [38:13] always taking those those late ads. Um [38:16] but once again, you can see our numbers [38:17] are staying pretty steady. uh they look [38:19] a little bit low. They'll come up to be [38:20] about 39% of our enrollment. Um to be, [38:23] you know, just right below our 5-year [38:25] moving average. Um the two declines for [38:28] this spring season that I've seen right [38:30] now are girls lacrosse in baseball. Um [38:33] but like I said, we still have a few [38:35] late enrollies, and we'll see what those [38:36] numbers uh kind of finalize as we, you [38:39] know, get through this first week of of [38:40] spring sports. [38:47] » All right. [38:49] budget overview. Let have this right. [38:52] It's a little bit over here. Okay. So, [38:54] just what it looks like from our fiscal [38:56] year 26 overview. The next slide will be [38:58] in detail. So, this is just a kind of [38:59] the macro look at it. Athletic director, [39:01] our coaching stipens. We have about [39:03] roughly 60 to 61 coaching stipens and [39:06] that makes up both our uh Penrook [39:07] Community Middle School and our Penrook [39:09] High School coaches uh in all three [39:11] seasons. So, roughly about 61 coaching [39:13] stipens to make up that number. athletic [39:16] maintenance custodian, contracted [39:17] services, officials, um supplies and [39:20] equipment make up that 827 720. So this [39:23] next slide you can see a little bit of [39:24] detail to break those numbers down to [39:26] give some context to them. Our biggest [39:28] and largest expense year over year is [39:30] going to be our rentals. Um our ice [39:32] rinks are continue to um give us a cost [39:35] that we have to pay and it's obviously [39:37] expensive, but we that's it is what it [39:39] is. That's a cost of doing business. [39:41] We're fortunate they're in our backyard [39:42] and uh you know it helps from a [39:44] transportation perspective, but our our [39:46] ice for our boys and girls team make up [39:49] roughly 65,000 of that 90,000. Um and [39:53] then our gymnastics program, our swim [39:55] program, [39:57] our two big other rentals, we use the [39:58] Southshore YMCA and handover for [40:00] gymnastics, we use a Kingsbury Club and [40:02] Kingston um for our swim team. And that [40:05] makes up that that 90,000 roughly for [40:07] our rentals. Our league dues are [40:10] consisted of our Patriot League dues and [40:12] our MIA league dues and then we have [40:14] entry fees for our cheerleading [40:15] competitions, our wrestling events and [40:18] our track um events that we that we [40:20] regularly attend. Field maintenance, [40:23] that's just our, you know, the stuff we [40:24] need year-over-year. Like training [40:26] services, that is the cost of Grace [40:29] Walsh, our athletic trainer, and or any [40:31] additional help that we um get provided [40:33] by Mass General Brighgam, who our [40:35] contractor is with for athletic training [40:37] services. So at times uh if we need [40:40] additional athletic trainer, if we have [40:41] multiple events going on, they will [40:42] provide that to us as kind of part of [40:44] our contract. Um and it covers [40:46] everything that way. Reconditioning, [40:48] police details, repairs, uniform [40:50] replacement cycle, and transportation [40:52] make up the rest of that. Um 285, the [40:55] contracted services, game officials, we [40:57] host we host roughly 270 home events. Um [41:00] and for each of those home events, we [41:02] have athletic officials and that makes [41:04] up that 5896A price. And then our [41:07] training supplies broken up through our [41:09] three seasons in our athletic training [41:11] room make up that remaining 3160. [41:16] So that's kind of the the budget [41:17] breakdown and overview last year moving [41:20] forward to uh 27. Some of our goals as [41:23] we look forward to continue to you know [41:24] try to provide the best experience that [41:26] we can is obviously our athletic [41:28] facilities is something we're always [41:29] looking to invest in. That's going to be [41:30] um you know an always an important and [41:33] critical part of our of our program. So [41:36] once again, an athletic press box that [41:37] you've heard me say for some time. Um [41:40] our grass fields certainly after this [41:42] winter are going to need some extra TLC. [41:44] Um they've been white for a long time [41:47] and they get a ton of use. So they're [41:49] and there's not great drainage. So I'll [41:51] be very curious over the next 7 to 10 [41:52] days how they they shake out um in some [41:56] better weather. And then in our [41:57] gymnasium, our basketball hoops, we [41:58] replaced two systems over the past two [42:01] years and slowly been chipping away at [42:02] it, but they are getting older in our [42:04] gym and they get a lot of use, not only [42:06] from our sports programs, but our our PE [42:08] programs as well and our youth folks on [42:10] the weekend. So, they're pretty um you [42:12] know, a pretty popular piece in our [42:14] school. The next goal moving down is [42:17] once again to strengthen our [42:18] relationship with our our youth uh [42:19] sports folks. They're they're a critical [42:22] part of what we do and if we want to [42:24] continue to have success, we need to [42:25] invest in them to get them involved as [42:28] early as we can. Like uh Gwyn's talked [42:30] about recruiting for her folks. It's [42:32] we're recruiting for our own kids in our [42:33] town as well. As you guys know, there's [42:35] so many options from private schools and [42:38] um just so many more options nowadays [42:40] for kids to go. Uh we want to keep our [42:42] own in town and we're trying to get a hold of them at a young age to [42:45] have a chance to do that. [42:47] >> We continue to live stream our athletic [42:48] events through Huddle. It's been um [42:51] we've got a ton of feedback on it. We [42:52] get over 2,000 uh 2,000 10,000 views [42:54] yearly. Um it's a free platform for [42:57] parents, family, people afar uh to check [43:00] in and watch their their family and [43:02] friends compete at Pepper High School. [43:04] And they continue to provide a holistic [43:06] student athlete experience. Grace does a [43:08] tremendous job in the training room uh [43:09] taking care of our student athletes. And [43:11] then the strength conditioning program [43:12] is something that on the next slide um [43:14] I'll talk about a little bit but it's been a a very popular uh place in [43:19] our athletic department as well. [43:22] So we kind of put this all together. [43:24] Some of the capital items obviously the [43:26] press box is is is the biggest cost. Um [43:29] that cost year over year goes up a [43:31] little bit more and more as the cost of [43:33] new business goes up. Um, but I I hope [43:36] it's something we can try to, you know, [43:38] put our our work work in and and get a [43:41] find a way to get that accomplished [43:42] because I do think it impacts so many in [43:44] this town, like I said, from our youth [43:46] programs to to the high school program. [43:48] So, I think there's there would be a lot [43:49] of support behind trying to find a way [43:51] to to raise that money if that was a [43:53] path in in the town. Um, I do think [43:56] there's a lot of support. basketball [43:58] hoops I talked about and the strength [43:59] conditioning coach. This would be a [44:01] stipen position kind of like our coaches [44:02] are per season. We have almost every [44:06] single one of our teams use the weight [44:09] room at at some point in time or the [44:11] other throughout the week or or the [44:12] individual season. So all our teams we [44:15] probably have I wish I had a a number to track how many kids were in there [44:19] each day, but we probably have at least [44:21] 100 student athletes who enter that [44:22] weight room every single day. all [44:24] different sports um [44:25] >> and all different music genre tastes, [44:27] >> all different genres. [44:29] >> I'm like, "Oh goodness, what's happening [44:30] in there today?" [44:31] >> Playlist and all all the fun stuff. But [44:33] it it really has become a place that um [44:36] it welcomes everyone. It's not just the [44:38] football team or this group or this [44:40] group. All our groups are in there. Um, [44:43] and I'd love to keep that a place where [44:45] we can, uh, provide some coaching and [44:47] some, you know, u, year each season so [44:49] we have some consistency for all our [44:51] team and student athletes to have that [44:53] because I do think that is an edge. I do [44:54] think having a strength conditioning [44:56] coach in the high school level is an [44:58] edge and it's something that our student [44:59] athletes really they they they enjoy [45:01] being in there. Um, so I think that [45:04] would be a great addition to our our [45:06] program. And then the turf field one to [45:08] two years away. I got it tested in [45:10] April. We're our our GMAX testing and some other testing. We're we're good [45:16] from those ratings. Some of our um seams [45:19] and our busy areas are starting to decay [45:21] a little bit, but we're uh we're in good [45:23] shape. We added another maintenance each [45:25] year to try to push that longevity out [45:28] of the turf and um it's a it's a busy [45:30] place for us. We get a lot of use out of [45:31] it. So, that will be down the road. [45:36] All right. I think that is the end. So [45:39] happy to talk about anything athletics [45:40] or whatever anyone wants to talk about. [45:43] >> Start on the end, Katrina. [45:45] >> Yeah. Um [45:48] I guess thank you so much for this. It's [45:50] really helpful to see kind of how things [45:52] are going over time and um all the [45:54] accomplishments of um the our student [45:56] athletes. Um, one question about um, in [46:00] terms of your big biggest budget ask, [46:03] like if you were to pick from the [46:05] capital items, what do you feel like is [46:07] the most um, pressing? [46:10] >> It's a good question. It's really I I [46:12] think I think they both I think the [46:14] press box and the transitioning coach [46:17] are both super pressing, but they're [46:20] almost in two different avenues where I [46:21] think we get way more student athlete [46:23] touches obviously by the transition [46:24] coach, which has those benefits. I think [46:27] the press box obviously has a benefit [46:29] from a facility usage, from a game [46:31] operations and logistics perspective. So [46:33] I it's a good question because I think [46:35] they have kind of a little bit of [46:36] different path. [46:38] >> Yeah. [46:38] >> Um [46:39] >> Got it. [46:40] >> So it's kind of hard to pick. Well, [46:42] since you mentioned raising money, um so [46:44] we did start last year to reinvigorate [46:47] the um PEO Education Foundation, but we [46:50] need somebody to help us with the um [46:52] taxes and all the things that fell off [46:54] when it stopped being functional before. [46:56] Um so if anyone wants to help with that, [46:58] would love to raise money for this um [47:00] turf field press box because we can use [47:02] that. Um but we do have some work to do [47:04] in terms of the um nonprofit status and [47:07] things like that. But if we can get that [47:08] worked out and there's folks who want to [47:10] volunteer to help make that a reality, I [47:12] think we could totally do fundraising [47:14] for the press box. [47:15] >> I think you should partner also with the [47:17] boosters on that because I know there [47:18] was an appetite a couple years ago to [47:21] contribute toward it. [47:22] >> Yes. And I candidly don't have a ton of [47:24] time to do that. So if anyone wants to [47:25] help, please reach out to me. [47:27] >> Tell me what to do. I'll go picketing [47:29] around town. Whatever I have to do [47:30] holding up signs, [47:31] >> we'll have an opportunity with the [47:33] replacement of the turf field to [47:35] potentially put together a project, [47:36] right? like a athletic enhancement. [47:39] >> Okay. [47:39] >> Maybe like a capital. [47:40] >> Two years from now, we're still [47:42] >> Can we do CPC funds for that or no? [47:44] >> Um, no. I think it has to be grass. I [47:46] think [47:46] >> it has to be grass. Can't be grass. I [47:48] don't know that much about CPC, but we [47:50] couldn't use it to replace the turf [47:51] field. So, I can't imagine that you [47:53] could use it for [47:54] >> I did have one other question. [47:56] >> The I'm I'm sorry. Can you let me jump? [47:58] I was saying drop for a minute, [48:00] >> but didn't we use CPC funds to do the [48:02] playgrounds? [48:03] >> The playground. Yes. But like I feel [48:04] like Madakisa works because it's grass. [48:06] I there's there's some weird [48:07] stipulations to it. I don't know. [48:09] >> But the press box [48:10] >> Yeah, I don't know that the press box [48:12] would fall under CPC, but [48:13] >> I'm happy to explore it. [48:14] >> Yeah, why not? [48:15] >> Happy. Yeah, do that. [48:16] >> I'm sorry, Katrina. [48:17] >> No, you're totally fine. Um I was just [48:20] curious too if we've looked into and it [48:22] may be a no, but um if we've looked into [48:24] any grants for um any of these any of [48:28] these, like if there are grants that are [48:30] available to potentially fund any of [48:32] them. I have not looked into a grant for [48:34] the press box or I don't think the the [48:37] stipen coach position would fall into [48:39] any grants be aware of but [48:42] >> press box I don't [48:44] >> once again I could look into that I'm [48:45] not [48:45] >> Brian just one off the board for a [48:47] second what about having Springfield [48:49] background that you and I both have what [48:51] about an intern strength and [48:52] conditioning person would that [48:55] >> I would that kind of cover us or not I [48:56] just [48:57] >> that would be my next step kind of [48:59] envision where we get a strength [49:00] condition certified and then we can [49:02] start having interns to make that [49:03] program kind of more hands-on, get more [49:05] touch points, and then we can get kids [49:06] from Bridgewwater State Springfield. [49:08] We're going to we can have a ton of [49:09] those departments [49:11] >> that are local that probably want to [49:12] come get some hours. [49:14] >> Yeah, I'm just let me talk to my [49:16] brother. Um I'm sure he's got some [49:18] resources there that I could tap in on. [49:20] >> Great. [49:20] >> So, [49:21] >> I'm done. and Alison. [49:24] >> So, if I remember correctly for the the [49:25] press box, part of the [49:28] process is it has to have sprinklers and [49:31] ADA and all things that we don't [49:34] currently have [49:36] >> anywhere within that area really. Right. [49:38] >> So, we have water. When we put the [49:40] sprinkler system out to the brack field, [49:42] we did run the the conduit for those [49:45] pieces if there were to ever be a press [49:48] box. So the the press box would be its [49:51] own entity behind like is there even [49:55] like a conceptual idea of where this [49:57] would be or [49:58] >> Yeah. So I I have some [50:00] >> I'm just curious diagrams and some some [50:02] u things that companies given us. So [50:05] there's so many options now. Some come [50:06] prefabed or they ship them in and they they build a foundation. That's [50:09] kind of the work and they're prefabed [50:10] and they're kind of nice and easy [50:12] >> like on the ground. [50:13] >> Not on the ground but they're they're [50:14] already built and then they yeah they [50:16] put them up on that. Um, [50:17] >> so are we talking like an elevator or is [50:19] this would be ramps or like how do you [50:21] >> It would probably be an elevator process [50:23] to have a ramp to that in the back would [50:25] be [50:26] >> it would be we don't have enough space. [50:28] There's not enough space. [50:29] >> Yeah. No, that's why I was just trying [50:30] to pro like cuz you know I think that [50:33] whether CPC can be used but then all the [50:35] youth sports that use the fields like it [50:37] would obviously be beneficial to [50:40] >> the whole town [50:41] >> a lot of places a lot of people. Um [50:45] yeah, that's definitely something I [50:47] think that could be explored in [50:48] different avenues of outside of just [50:51] like our budget um within the school. [50:54] But I also want to just also shout out [50:56] the basketball I mean the baseball and [50:58] softball players because I've been part [51:01] >> so first of all congratulations and all [51:03] the successes for all the sports teams [51:05] like I'm just really impressed. The [51:07] volleyball team this year was [51:09] unbelievable. And [51:10] >> there was a dusty banner up there we had [51:11] to clear off for New Year's. [51:13] >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was just I mean and [51:16] honestly I mean in the track program and [51:19] cross country and so many amazing [51:20] athletes and I think that they can't be [51:23] developed without good leadership, [51:25] right? So we really appreciate [51:26] everything you're doing for the program [51:28] which is pretty amazing. Um a couple of [51:31] questions I had. First one is uh [51:34] regarding the budget detail. Is there [51:36] anything in here? Is this just [51:38] maintenance of effort budget detail or [51:39] is there any sort of um items in here [51:42] that are increased from last year that [51:45] should be called out or [51:46] >> the the biggest increase is really come [51:48] back to that contracted services piece [51:50] for the rentals. So that just goes up [51:52] yearly based off whatever the rink [51:53] decides they want to charge next year. [51:55] It's not like a a price that we know [51:57] we're getting. [51:59] >> So yeah, so our maintenance of effort [52:00] budget includes an increase in those [52:02] type of services. You know, we kind of [52:04] guess at it. I I think we'll we're [52:06] pretty close. But [52:07] >> so basically this is maintenance of [52:08] effort. Correct. [52:09] >> Okay. So that's that's kind of my [52:11] question trying to figure out. And then [52:13] the other question we we talked briefly [52:15] today in budget sub about potential for [52:17] track at some point. Uh the so would the [52:20] how is the track doing right now? Have [52:22] you had that checked? [52:23] >> Yeah. So it's it's actually become a a [52:25] very niche market. The Cape Islands who [52:28] have done a lot of u the track work in [52:30] this area. They've kind of gone away [52:32] from doing repairs. now they just want [52:34] to do brand new construction. So, it's [52:36] been a challenge to get them here. Um, [52:37] with that being said, there's definitely [52:39] some usage and wear and tear in some of [52:41] those hight traffic areas. Uh, it's [52:43] probably going to be along those same [52:44] lines as our turf field timeline. Like [52:47] Aaron said, it might be a project piece [52:48] where we come in and resurface at all. [52:50] It's not going to be need to be [52:51] reconstructed, but it'll be need to be [52:53] resurfaced sooner than than later. It's [52:56] a ton of use, you know, and we we host [52:58] some MSTC events which add to that, [53:01] >> right? Um, but that's a great, you know, [53:03] opportunity for our town to host that, [53:04] which is why we do. Uh, but it's [53:07] probably on that turfield timeline of [53:08] needing to be resurfaced. [53:10] >> Okay. All right. Good to know. Thank [53:12] you. [53:15] » Nothing. Thank you so much. Again, I'll [53:18] kind of come to a close and I will say [53:20] um Brian, I still remember the first [53:22] time someone asked me if uh we would [53:24] interview for this position and I having [53:27] a very athletic background, a [53:29] Springfield College guy, I looked at [53:31] your resume and I said, "Why in heaven's [53:33] name would this guy want to come here?" [53:35] I said, "He is so grossly [53:36] overqualified." And then I honestly [53:38] said, "He'll last about a year and some [53:40] school will scoop him up." How many [53:42] years you here now, sir? [53:43] >> Six years. [53:44] >> We have an agreement. [53:47] Well, I I just want to say I'm I'm I'm [53:48] honored to have you here. Um, as with [53:51] all the faculty and stuff, but I just [53:52] remember seeing your resume and I was [53:54] saying to myself, "Holy heaven, they [53:56] said, "If we can land this guy, this is [53:58] like big time." So, and your results [54:00] have proven it. Everything you've done, [54:02] and again, similar to the other people, [54:03] you know, Gwen's music program, [54:05] whatever, it it's just what we're known [54:07] for. So, thank you for all you do. [54:09] Again, I've always said you call the [54:11] kids student athletes. It reminds me of [54:13] my dad. I think that's the greatest [54:15] compliment in the world. I've never [54:16] heard you once say he's a football [54:18] player, a basketball player, track, [54:20] whatever. Um, so thank you. Great [54:22] presentation. Um, we got some things to [54:25] look at in the future. [54:26] >> Thank you guys. [54:27] >> Thank you, [54:28] >> Brian. You can go if you want. Do [54:30] >> you want me to hang on the waver? [54:31] >> Uh, no, there I got it. That's fine. [54:34] >> Thank you. [54:34] >> Thanks. [54:36] >> Have a good night. [54:37] >> No pressure now. Yes. [54:40] >> If you do well, you get to leave. Yeah, [54:42] you have to stay. [54:44] >> We had two amazing presentations. So [54:47] >> I uh I don't have Great job. Right. I [54:50] don't have any gold medals. [54:53] It's [54:53] >> not true. You still appreciate it. [54:55] >> So and in fact um the irony is when my [54:59] department does their job well, nobody [55:01] notices. [55:04] >> That makes it tricky because we [55:05] certainly notice when things are not [55:06] working. [55:07] >> Yeah, that's true. Right. [55:08] >> If that screen doesn't work, we are in [55:10] big trouble. [55:13] Uh nevertheless, um I'm going to follow [55:15] the same format as as our colleagues [55:17] did. Uh we'll talk about an overview of, [55:19] you know, the historical information. Um [55:22] update on the fiscal year 26 goals that [55:24] we put into place, take a look at what's [55:26] coming for 2027, and uh outline the [55:29] priorities where we're headed. I [55:32] finished a really [55:35] I I don't use the term rigorous lightly. [55:38] This was a rigorous course I took um [55:40] where on the first day the the professor [55:42] stated that technology in schools has [55:44] quietly become infrastructure and it [55:47] really truly has. Um th this department [55:50] um has two sides and I have to forever [55:54] look at this with two minds. I'm an [55:56] educator first. I was an educator for for 20some years and I bring that to [56:01] the educational technology portion of [56:03] it. But then [56:05] there's there's a ubiquity to technology [56:08] in everything we do now. So, you know, [56:10] the the Wi-Fi, the the HVAC systems, you [56:13] know, we're responsible for keeping all [56:15] of that going and and if it's too warm [56:18] or too cold, the learning management [56:20] systems, uh the the network security, [56:23] student data protections, delivery of of [56:26] instructional materials, the point of [56:27] service machines at the in the cafeteria [56:29] for the kids, the huddle cams that Brian [56:32] uses um in in security, pick a time for [56:36] parent teacher conferences, the voice [56:38] over internet protocol telephones like [56:39] we we have our our our hands in [56:41] everything. Um and it's not something I [56:44] take lightly and in fact I I take it [56:46] very very seriously. Um so [56:50] to that end our foundational principles [56:53] and strategic outlook remain uh from [56:56] last year. Um at the nucleus of it all [57:00] kids are first. We're we're a school [57:01] district. Kids are always first. um when [57:05] I speak to um you know this sort of wish [57:08] list of things that we're looking at for [57:09] the budget, I' I I try to approach it [57:11] pragmatically with a very realistic [57:13] outlook. Um I'm I'm not sort of unaware [57:17] of of the lift that the citizens of the [57:21] town will will need to look at in in the [57:24] coming months and things like that. Nor [57:26] unaware of all of the things happening [57:27] sort of with tariffs and supply chains [57:30] for the things we need. So this isn't [57:32] the year for a moonshot. [57:34] Um maybe next year we'll see how it [57:36] goes. Um but it's that pragmatic [57:38] approach to all of this that that we [57:40] keep at it at our heart. Um transparency [57:43] of practices for our department. [57:46] If if we think about the way our data [57:48] was used 10 years ago compared to now [57:51] where where everything is for sale. [57:54] having transparency in our practices [57:56] when we're working with these other [57:57] vendors and and and how are we using the [58:00] kids data. All of that um needs to be [58:03] crystal clear. So, we keep that to heart [58:05] and we keep respect to our funding [58:07] sources. We know that our stakeholders [58:08] are those families with Pembro Public [58:10] School students and there are some [58:12] families and in residents who don't have [58:14] kids here. I look at those as our [58:16] investors. So, what's their return on [58:18] investment going to be? And I'll do my [58:19] very best to to keep uh respectful of [58:21] that. Um, in terms of our outlook, I [58:25] spoke last year about the exponential [58:27] growth of technology and the linear path [58:30] of schools. I was asked not to show that [58:31] slide again this year because it is very [58:33] overdone by me at this point, but [58:35] nevertheless, it's still there. Um, the [58:38] feedback look to pull a page from from [58:40] director Phillips's uh book, we're we're [58:43] trying to skate toward where the puck is [58:45] headed. Um, we I I don't know of any way [58:48] to stay ahead of technology. It moves [58:50] too fast. Chat GPT came out four years [58:53] ago. It's on its fifth iteration and [58:55] we're still trying to figure out how the [58:56] whole thing works. Um, so it it's it's [58:59] an outlook that way where if we can [59:02] enable our students, empower our [59:03] students with transferable skills so [59:06] that no matter what comes out, they will [59:08] have something to put towards it. That's [59:09] our goal. [59:17] Our state of tech, um, Titan Tech in [59:20] particular, uh, is kind of interesting. [59:22] It's been an interesting year. We've had [59:24] a decrease in our department staffing. [59:26] We were small before. We're we're teeny [59:28] now. We were a skeleton crew at one [59:29] point. Now we're a couple of bones. Um, [59:31] but it's all for good reason, too. Um, [59:35] Ken Cruz was our media technician who I [59:38] believe started prior to Pemrook split [59:42] from Silver Lake, but I know he had been [59:44] here for 22 years. He retired uh in in [59:47] uh December uh excuse me, in January of [59:50] this year. Um couldn't be more grateful [59:52] for all of his hard work. He was he he [59:54] did great things. Um and our digital [59:57] learning specialist made sort of a [59:58] lateral movement from that position to [1:00:00] the high school librarian. It could not [1:00:02] be a better fit. It could not be it was [1:00:04] as if there was a a a hole shaped [1:00:08] exactly like her that she just stepped [1:00:10] into for this. And and she mentioned it [1:00:12] was her dream job as well. Um we've had [1:00:14] some system level disruptions that [1:00:16] required some shifting of priorities and [1:00:19] a definite heightened focus on um [1:00:23] security and compliance. [1:00:30] But our tenacity [1:00:34] is greater than the adversity. And [1:00:36] despite it all, we I'm I'm a judo guy at [1:00:39] heart. It's my secret life. We fall [1:00:41] seven times in stand 8 and we will [1:00:44] continue being committed to reliable [1:00:45] network access to to compliance with [1:00:48] state and federal regulations with [1:00:50] things like data privacy and all of that [1:00:52] uh filtering. Um a a hyper responsive [1:00:56] technical support team. Even though [1:00:58] we're small, we try to get to you the [1:01:00] day those tickets come in. and [1:01:02] continuation of uh of instruction based [1:01:05] around all of those network needs. [1:01:12] So in terms of our expected outcomes, [1:01:15] our core goals, we need to strengthen [1:01:17] our cyber security posture. Um things [1:01:21] have changed again, you know, thinking [1:01:22] about data in the last 10 years, things [1:01:24] have changed considerably. Um I'll speak [1:01:26] a little bit more to that as as we move [1:01:28] forward. um increasing our department [1:01:31] agility. Although we're a small team, [1:01:33] we've outsourced. We this is our first [1:01:35] full year of working with Oak's [1:01:36] technology to sort of um help us with [1:01:39] the lift with a lot of the updates to [1:01:41] our services. They can kind of get in [1:01:43] and um do a lot of the work that our [1:01:46] network manager normally would do, but [1:01:47] he's stretched with me too. So, it's a [1:01:50] help. Um device equity and connectivity [1:01:53] ubiquity remains a core goal, as well as [1:01:55] best practices from professional [1:01:56] learning uh with our teachers. so that [1:01:58] they can deliver their best to our [1:02:00] students. And continuing on with our [1:02:02] replacement cycles, [1:02:04] um we'll also continue to support all of [1:02:06] the digital community that we have. Um [1:02:09] there are over 100 edte software [1:02:11] programs that we're using from preK to [1:02:14] 12. That includes um instructional and [1:02:17] non-instructional components. support of [1:02:19] all of the standardized testing that's [1:02:21] all digital now as well from MCCAST to [1:02:24] WEDA to to the AP tests [1:02:28] around 3,600 enduser devices. An end [1:02:30] user is just anyone that's using a [1:02:33] computer right so it could be an iPad or [1:02:34] it could be a Chromebook or a laptop of [1:02:37] some sort. Um but supporting all of [1:02:39] those the the VIP phones voiceover [1:02:42] internet telephone system that that goes [1:02:45] uh within and among the schools security [1:02:48] cameras our key fob security entry [1:02:51] systems all of the audio video [1:02:52] projection devices and our in internet [1:02:56] our penrook internet as well. [1:03:02] We have had some successes. It's neat [1:03:04] hearing Director Phillips and Director [1:03:07] Chavin talk about the kids because I see [1:03:09] the same things. Um I have a a help desk [1:03:13] course that is run at the high school. [1:03:15] Uh there are six seniors that are [1:03:17] absolutely remarkable. They're [1:03:19] innovative and persistent and and do [1:03:23] such great things. So that's a semester [1:03:25] long course. Um they have repaired, [1:03:29] salvaged or recirculated 200 Chromebooks [1:03:32] um which is remarkable. And when Mr. [1:03:37] Cruz retired, [1:03:40] it left me sort of with the the the load [1:03:42] of getting to all the schools and doing [1:03:44] the physical repairs. It was great [1:03:46] knowing I could bring a pack of [1:03:48] Chromebooks labeled Brianville and drop [1:03:50] it off at the table outside of my office [1:03:52] at the high school and the kids would [1:03:53] get to work and know just what to do, [1:03:55] how to troubleshoot it, how to repair [1:03:56] it. So, we had kids repairing other kids [1:03:58] Chromebooks within the district and [1:03:59] that's great. Um, and in fact, [1:04:02] >> part of the course that we run is to [1:04:04] take a really hard look at the way that [1:04:07] we use our tech in the district and are [1:04:10] there any, you know, areas that could be [1:04:12] built up. And in fact, they found one. [1:04:14] Um, when I was looking over the the [1:04:17] feedback we received for the strategic [1:04:19] planning team, there were some [1:04:23] despite having new devices, [1:04:26] there were still some gaps that some of [1:04:29] the kids were saying and in particular [1:04:30] the Chromebooks were operating really [1:04:32] slowly even though they were new. And [1:04:36] the kids took a deep dive into it and [1:04:38] realized that [1:04:41] without getting too technical, Google [1:04:43] Chrome takes up a lot of memory [1:04:45] >> when it runs. So when the kids had one [1:04:49] tab of Google Chrome open, it was just [1:04:51] over half of the Chromebook's memory [1:04:53] being used at one time. So you can [1:04:55] imagine if they had like five tabs open, [1:04:57] everything comes to a stop. Um, so as a [1:05:00] result of their work, um, we we sort of [1:05:02] reimagined how Chromebooks would look [1:05:04] for the kids for next year, uh, with [1:05:06] some increased memory, but we'll speak [1:05:07] to that in a few slides. But that's [1:05:10] because of the kids. It's because of our [1:05:12] seniors, Tyler K, uh, Michael Madden, [1:05:15] and just think they're names that we all [1:05:19] hear. Um, Nick McCarthy and and Aiden [1:05:22] Donahue and Chris Linsky. They're just [1:05:24] remarkable. Oh, John Vieira, another [1:05:26] one. just absolutely outstanding kids [1:05:28] and incredible troubleshooters and they [1:05:31] could leave and get a job at any tech [1:05:33] service now except for Johnny Studio but [1:05:36] the other [1:05:40] uh faculty and staff. We've done I think [1:05:41] a nice job of centralizing our tech [1:05:43] department. It used to be we had a [1:05:44] couple of free agents that sort of came [1:05:46] under our umbrella too and that offers [1:05:48] up a little bit more um leverage when it [1:05:50] comes to assignments and getting things [1:05:52] uh you know where we need them to be. [1:05:55] Our building based lead technology [1:05:57] teachers have been fantastic too. [1:05:59] There's one at each school. They are [1:06:01] classroom teachers and will help [1:06:03] support. A lot of times they're our [1:06:05] first line of defense. So if a device [1:06:07] comes in broken, um they will be the [1:06:10] ones to send the support ticket and then [1:06:11] my team can kind of go from there, go [1:06:13] from that. But they are very [1:06:17] wellrespected and sought after [1:06:19] presenters at conferences on technology [1:06:21] because of the innovative things that [1:06:22] they're doing in their classes. um and [1:06:24] they contribute to our weekly techt tip [1:06:26] newsletter uh that comes out on [1:06:27] Tuesdays. In terms of our adjustment to [1:06:30] practices, we're at almost full [1:06:32] enrollment with multiffactor [1:06:34] authentication, our Google accounts as a [1:06:36] um safety measure. It's another lock to [1:06:38] the door to to keep the bad guys out. Um [1:06:42] we have a strong presence in state and [1:06:44] regional tech leadership. Uh we've been [1:06:46] featured speakers at conferences on [1:06:48] artificial intelligence and assisted [1:06:50] technology. Um, and then, uh, there's [1:06:53] also leadership, um, on a regional [1:06:56] assisted technology special interest [1:06:58] group that meets, uh, bimonthly. Um, so [1:07:01] I'm lucky to kind of be that guy. We've [1:07:04] had a few highle certification [1:07:06] acquisitions as well, and we're working [1:07:08] on developing uh, guidelines on [1:07:11] artificial intelligence in the industry. [1:07:13] Matter of fact, tomorrow [1:07:20] our end user hardware um has also been a [1:07:24] success. We have implemented the [1:07:26] business computer lab uh and it's it's [1:07:28] very well used at the high school. Uh [1:07:31] Taran Lang uh is the the teacher there [1:07:34] who is also one of those people I spoke [1:07:36] of a moment ago about presenting. her [1:07:38] command of a of an auditorium when she [1:07:39] presents is remarkable and and just [1:07:43] we're very lucky to have her. She's [1:07:45] fantastic. Um our high school staff [1:07:47] device replacement continues the Windows [1:07:49] laptops and Chromebooks uh for for [1:07:51] faculty. We use Chromebooks for our PAR [1:07:53] educators and Windows laptops for for [1:07:56] the classroom teachers. And uh 575 [1:07:59] Chromebooks had been replaced. It's our [1:08:01] cycle of renewal that we began recently [1:08:04] uh beginning in grade two, moving on to [1:08:06] grade seven and then again at grade 9. [1:08:14] We're also working towards making our [1:08:17] infrastructure less fragile. Uh so these [1:08:22] are some things I'm particularly proud [1:08:23] of actually. So um we we've completed [1:08:27] our upgrades to the wireless internet. [1:08:29] There are access points. You can see [1:08:30] them in this room. Um they're they're [1:08:32] more robust. They'll handle a lot more [1:08:34] data uh being sent to and from the [1:08:37] backup systems have been built uh and are robust. They are in the case of [1:08:43] some sort of catastrophic failure, what [1:08:45] we turn to to restore everything. That's [1:08:47] part of the restoration process. We've [1:08:49] completely replaced all wireless access [1:08:51] points at the middle school and the high [1:08:53] school. So now all five schools are on [1:08:55] the cloud. Um that was a three-year goal [1:08:58] that stretched out to I think five and [1:09:00] uh and and that's great. Um so the [1:09:03] reliability and all of that we we don't [1:09:06] have to rely on some old device in a [1:09:09] dusty closet that someone will trip on a [1:09:11] cable and and knock the network down [1:09:12] from which is is actually what would [1:09:15] happen. Uh we've moved the HVAC systems [1:09:18] to the cloud. So that's all controlled [1:09:20] through uh through the web at this [1:09:22] point. Um, we had our hands on [1:09:24] installations of new PA systems that [1:09:27] attach with our network as well at Hava [1:09:28] and at the middle school. And I [1:09:30] mentioned before it was our first year [1:09:32] of full managed services with ochres [1:09:34] technology. [1:09:35] Super easy to work with. [1:09:38] >> And what does um ochres do? Again, [1:09:41] >> ochres is a so [1:09:44] a number of things. They supply a lot of [1:09:47] the materials that we use, but they [1:09:49] provide a service sort of like the guy [1:09:51] in the chair. they'll have an overview [1:09:53] of all of the things that are happening [1:09:54] on our network. Okay. [1:09:55] >> So, if I notice, oh, the library lost [1:09:57] connectivity at North Benro, I can reach [1:10:00] out to them and they'll have someone on, [1:10:02] not necessarily on site. If we need [1:10:04] that, they would uh but they can adjust [1:10:06] things on the back end. That's the [1:10:07] benefit of having things on the cloud. [1:10:09] We no longer necessarily have to have [1:10:11] somebody come in to get hands on a [1:10:13] gadget. [1:10:14] >> Yeah, [1:10:14] >> it's done. [1:10:15] >> Got it. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. [1:10:17] >> Absolutely. Great question, too. [1:10:22] In terms of transparency of our [1:10:23] practice, um this is an important one. I [1:10:27] mentioned that that [1:10:30] personal data is is sought after um by [1:10:34] thread actors for a number of reasons [1:10:37] >> and the ways in which businesses use [1:10:41] data um is is [1:10:45] it's critical to make sure that it's [1:10:47] protected. Um so what are we doing with [1:10:50] the kids data because there's a lot of [1:10:52] it. So um we recently signed on with the [1:10:55] student data privacy consortium and and [1:10:57] that is um the industry standard of we [1:11:01] have to have a signed contract with them [1:11:03] that they're going to keep the data [1:11:04] protected and not sell it to vendors and [1:11:06] that sort of thing. Um if they are [1:11:08] unwilling to sign that contract, we are [1:11:10] unwilling to work with them. [1:11:11] >> Awesome. [1:11:12] >> Um the district website also has our [1:11:14] data privacy practices on there too. [1:11:16] It's all within three clicks. So, if you [1:11:18] go into the um the district technology [1:11:21] page, there's a big purple shield on the [1:11:23] right side. Now, that sort of opens up [1:11:24] what what we do with the kids data and what we don't do. Um there was also [1:11:30] sort of a gray area with the whole [1:11:32] repair process and billing of families [1:11:34] too. Um so, we we made an overhaul to [1:11:37] that. Um [1:11:41] in the past there was no process. um [1:11:45] things would get dropped off, parents [1:11:46] would get build, [1:11:48] it's on the bottom of a report card, but [1:11:52] I mean [1:11:54] I I was a little bit surprised. I think [1:11:55] it was last May when I went to the the [1:11:58] main office of the high school and there [1:12:00] was a line of panicked kids from Mrs. [1:12:03] Sarington's desk, I'm not exaggerating, [1:12:05] clear into the auditorium, um, holding [1:12:08] checks and and wondering how to write [1:12:10] checks because their iPad broke when [1:12:13] they were in second grade and they would [1:12:14] build for it and somewhere in the mix. [1:12:17] Who likes getting an unexpected bill, [1:12:19] too? And [1:12:21] >> so, we we switched things up a little [1:12:22] bit. Um there's a process now when a [1:12:25] device is broken. Um it's brought to the [1:12:28] office or those lead technology teachers [1:12:31] I mentioned let us know. At that point [1:12:34] we send an email notification to [1:12:36] families that something happened with [1:12:37] their device that just says that they're [1:12:40] your student paid a visit to the tech [1:12:42] department today. We're going to look [1:12:43] things over but um there may be a bill [1:12:46] coming so just be prepared. We assess [1:12:49] the device from there. If it needs [1:12:50] repair, we do that in two ways. Either [1:12:54] um it's done with the kids at the high [1:12:57] school. Uh if we can use salvaged parts [1:13:00] and the kids do it, we do that as sort [1:13:02] of a teaching moment, you teaching [1:13:04] material that we don't charge. If it [1:13:06] needs more experienced um you know, [1:13:10] hands-on sort of thing, um then then [1:13:12] we'll have our technician look at that [1:13:14] and and repair. And then there are fees [1:13:16] that apply for there. At that point, we [1:13:19] put the fee into P school, which [1:13:20] automatically pushes it to my school [1:13:22] box. And then the parents will get a [1:13:24] push notification there that there's the [1:13:26] bill. They could pay with a credit card. [1:13:27] They don't have to write a check [1:13:28] anymore. There'll be no kids holding [1:13:30] socks full of coins for this desk [1:13:33] anymore. Um, we can do payment plans and [1:13:37] there's a dispute form in case they feel [1:13:39] as if they uh had been charged unfairly. [1:13:42] uh on the district website as well. We [1:13:44] take photographic evidence of the things [1:13:46] that we do and put it in in a file, too, [1:13:48] just in case um you know, there are [1:13:50] questions about that. So far, uh the [1:13:52] tech department's got back about $2,000 [1:13:54] in outstanding bills. And I think [1:13:56] overall, we kind of pushed it to all the [1:13:57] other departments, too, for like missing [1:13:59] textbooks. I think I think it's about $4 [1:14:01] or $5,000. I can get a a solid number, [1:14:03] but it's working well so far. Nice. [1:14:05] >> And the disputes have been reasonable. [1:14:08] They've been very, very reasonable. [1:14:12] Um our staffing is small and mighty. [1:14:16] Uh we we obviously have our director of [1:14:18] instructional technology. Uh Aaron [1:14:21] Tinker is our data and software manager. [1:14:23] James Eliss uh again another person that [1:14:27] started at uh Silver Lake and and [1:14:29] brought his skill to here. He's been [1:14:30] here over 20 years as our network [1:14:32] manager. And our newest hire, I think [1:14:34] this is week two and a half. He was [1:14:36] supposed to start on the the blizzard. [1:14:39] That didn't work out. But uh Patrick [1:14:41] McGovern uh is he's a 2011 graduate of [1:14:45] Pemrook High School. Actually absolutely [1:14:47] remarkable human being. His technical [1:14:50] knowledge is only matched by his [1:14:52] personality. It's ironic to think that [1:14:54] the the the most [1:14:57] important aspect of our technology [1:15:00] department has nothing technical at all. [1:15:02] It's about relationships. And he's got [1:15:03] that personality where he can reach out [1:15:05] to people and [1:15:06] >> and he does great work. Um and and we're [1:15:08] lucky to have him. We still have our [1:15:10] five building based uh lead tech [1:15:12] teachers. Sarah McNelte at Bryantville, [1:15:15] Mindy Murphy at Hobok, um Katie Roger at [1:15:18] the middle school, Greg Zapati at the [1:15:20] high school, and of course Kate Nent uh [1:15:23] here at North Penroke. And Thursday [1:15:26] through the Pathways program, we're [1:15:28] interviewing four senior interns. So [1:15:31] we'll have three or four guys working [1:15:32] with us um all with driver's licenses so [1:15:35] I can send them off to other schools. [1:15:37] We'll take all the help we can get. [1:15:41] >> In terms of um you know sort of regional [1:15:45] numbers, uh we're we're the smallest [1:15:48] around. We have our four people. You [1:15:51] know, these are the dart schools. Um [1:15:53] comparable numbers of devices and [1:15:55] students. Uh but but some of them almost [1:15:57] double what we have going on. [1:16:00] >> Yeah. Yeah. There's like all these other [1:16:02] numbers for folks at home. It's like 9 [1:16:04] 12 6 9 7 8. getting more complicated. Um [1:16:08] I I I I mean I can I can speak, you [1:16:11] know, with the wisdom of experience [1:16:13] after Mr. Cruz left things got a little [1:16:15] bit tricky. Um I I would never go lower [1:16:18] than what we have now. [1:16:19] >> Got it. Very helpful to know. [1:16:23] >> Um it's reflected in our tech tickets. [1:16:25] This is from August of February. We had [1:16:27] our media tech uh completing 220 service [1:16:31] tickets. Our network manager was 72, the [1:16:33] digital learning specialist at the time [1:16:35] at 36, the software data integration [1:16:38] person had 172, and the tech director [1:16:41] had 255. It was a lot. It was sweaty. [1:16:48] So, in terms of our recurring costs, um, [1:16:52] using our tech interns and salvage parts [1:16:56] for Chromebooks, um, that costs us [1:16:59] nothing and and it saves us a lot. When [1:17:02] we're looking at new devices, I make [1:17:04] sure that they are compatible with some [1:17:06] of the older parts that we have. As they [1:17:08] get more advanced, that changes a little [1:17:10] bit. Um, and of course Apple, you know, [1:17:13] when we talk about iPads for the [1:17:14] littles, those aren't really compatible [1:17:16] with with parts. We have to send those [1:17:18] off for repair. Um, but that's actually [1:17:20] few and far between. Those are always a [1:17:21] good investment because they're pretty [1:17:23] beefy. Um, [1:17:24] >> with with a case, we can get a solid six [1:17:27] years out of them, which we'll speak to [1:17:29] in a moment, too. Our software licensing [1:17:32] and support for instructional and [1:17:33] non-instructional software. Um, so I I [1:17:38] worked with assistant superintendent [1:17:39] Bruss last year and the the uh teaching [1:17:42] and learning team and we took a deep [1:17:43] dive into the instructional software [1:17:45] that's being used or not being used as [1:17:48] much and sort of shifted things. So [1:17:51] we're saving a little bit of money there [1:17:53] either by not renewing some or or [1:17:56] placing more emphasis on other software. [1:17:59] Um, internet [1:18:01] that that provides the service to our [1:18:02] district doesn't change. That's at [1:18:04] status quo now. This is the portion that [1:18:06] we paid from E- rate. Supplies and [1:18:08] materials we cut back on a little bit [1:18:10] too. Um I don't think that we needed uh [1:18:13] the the the full 30 from last year. So [1:18:16] we'll scale it back and save a little [1:18:17] bit that way. Um bringing us to a total [1:18:19] savings of about $57,000 for this [1:18:22] company. [1:18:24] >> Nice. [1:18:26] >> In terms of the devices that we need for [1:18:28] the coming year, um there there's a few. [1:18:33] The elementary laptops are starting to [1:18:36] fall apart. We get about four solid [1:18:38] years out of them. Um and and indeed [1:18:40] this is where we're at now. So we'll be [1:18:42] looking to replace 130 of those. The [1:18:45] elementary paraprofessional Chromebooks [1:18:48] are a little bit more than we asked last [1:18:49] year simply because there are more of [1:18:51] them at the elementary school. [1:18:54] Um we got our money's worth out of those [1:18:57] iPads that the the kindergarteners and [1:18:59] first graders have been using. Um, [1:19:02] when I was a classroom teacher, I heard [1:19:03] this statistic once that you have half [1:19:06] of a child's biological age and minutes [1:19:08] of attention. [1:19:11] So, if you're a first grader and you're [1:19:13] spending five minutes troubleshooting an [1:19:15] iPad, the moment's gone. So, let's maybe [1:19:18] we could look to replacing those slow uh [1:19:20] iPads for uh kindergarten, first grade. [1:19:23] Uh, and of course the replacement cycle [1:19:25] for the student Chromebooks, um, a [1:19:27] little bit more this year because we're [1:19:29] boosting up the the the ability of them. [1:19:31] Um, and that cycle goes through grades [1:19:34] 2, six, and nine. As we had mentioned, I [1:19:36] don't think that a second grader's first [1:19:38] experience with a Chromebook should be [1:19:39] troubleshooting, which is why I'll [1:19:40] insist on starting them off there. Um, [1:19:43] right now the oldest Chromebooks in the [1:19:45] district are in grade five and grade 12. [1:19:48] So we can salvage those parts u [1:19:52] if and hopefully as new ones come in [1:19:55] our network equipment needs. So when I [1:19:59] came on as director the priority was to [1:20:02] shift away from those on premises [1:20:03] devices because they kept breaking. Um [1:20:06] they they were super vulnerable. So when [1:20:09] we're thinking about network needs for [1:20:10] next year we're in a pretty good spot. [1:20:12] Um, looking at where the trends were [1:20:14] headed, um, we, you know, we we'll we'll [1:20:16] stick to managed services and we'll need [1:20:19] to strengthen our cyber security stance [1:20:21] as well. [1:20:27] This is the not as fun stuff. Um, [1:20:32] in terms of a justification for the [1:20:33] cyber security stance, I I have some [1:20:35] alarming statistics to share. Um, [1:20:38] there's [1:20:40] a good part of my week where I spend [1:20:42] much of the day stopping cyber attacks [1:20:45] and fishing campaigns and things like [1:20:47] that. It it's it's a lot. Um, data from [1:20:51] um, you know, the the the research that [1:20:52] I've shared here indicates that there [1:20:55] are 4,388 [1:20:57] cyber attacks per week, per [1:20:59] organization. On an annual scale, that's [1:21:01] 228,000 per school per year. um and and [1:21:07] as it says in context more than double [1:21:09] the global a uh average for other [1:21:11] sectors. Schools are easy targets [1:21:13] because they know that budgets can be [1:21:16] tight and infrastructure can be weak and [1:21:19] practices can be weak [1:21:21] >> and and and if we can boost that up that [1:21:24] makes us less of a target. Um 82% of [1:21:27] kindergarten through 12 schools report [1:21:29] experiencing at least one significant [1:21:31] cyber threat over the course of 18 [1:21:33] months. That's a lot. that that's daily. [1:21:36] Um so my hope is that we can sort of uh [1:21:40] you know boost and and at least [1:21:42] amilarate all of the constant attacks [1:21:44] because they really are they're [1:21:45] aggressive. Um we have some threat [1:21:47] actors actually calling the schools and [1:21:48] demanding to speak to teachers that they [1:21:50] find you know information from a website [1:21:53] or something like that. Um this is a way [1:21:56] that that could be slowed down. [1:21:58] So, um, in summary, [1:22:02] 2027 requests, uh, we're looking at, uh, [1:22:05] district-wide tech and software programs [1:22:07] at 444,000. E- rate continues on. Um, [1:22:10] this is the district's cost. Um, and in [1:22:13] our device replacement cycle, uh, also [1:22:16] around $447,000. [1:22:20] Um, [1:22:22] looking towards the future, [1:22:26] I'd like to continue with the uh [1:22:28] replacement cycle of the Chromebooks for [1:22:29] the kids. Uh, it's a great tool for them [1:22:31] to use. Um, the engineering lab will [1:22:35] take a closer look at in fiscal year [1:22:37] 2028. The secretaries and central office [1:22:40] staff will need some new devices also in [1:22:42] 2028. [1:22:43] um the digital arts lab. This is what um director Javin was speaking of. [1:22:49] You know, all of the the the new [1:22:51] courses, these are the devices that will [1:22:53] facilitate the new courses that are [1:22:54] coming, digital photography, things like [1:22:56] that. Um VMware, server replacement, VM [1:23:01] stands for virtual machine. Essentially, [1:23:03] if if you imagine a power strip that you [1:23:05] it's like a plug that you can put a [1:23:06] bunch of other plugs into, virtual [1:23:08] machines are a computer that pretend [1:23:10] that they're a bunch of other computers, [1:23:11] too. Those are something that we use to [1:23:13] run P schoolool and things like that. Um [1:23:15] so uh the replacement for those uh [1:23:18] sometime in 2029 firewall updates and [1:23:21] replacements as well, backup solutions. [1:23:23] And I'd like to eventually move Power [1:23:25] School off premises to the cloud as [1:23:27] well. That'll offer more stability. That [1:23:29] one breaks down a lot. Um we have a a [1:23:31] great team that works with us to build [1:23:33] it back up again, but it'd be nice to [1:23:35] not need them. Um, and also a shift away [1:23:41] or or a shift back towards the [1:23:43] instructional technology portion of my [1:23:46] job as well. So, I'd like to see and and um assistant superintendent Russ [1:23:50] will speak to this I think as well, but [1:23:52] looking at some more teachers um [1:23:55] especially where um [1:23:58] there there's so much coming. [1:24:00] >> Yeah, [1:24:01] >> there's so much coming. You know, [1:24:03] artificial intelligence is only part of [1:24:05] it. um and and having people who are [1:24:07] dedicated, highly qualified instructors [1:24:10] to facilitate that learning will only [1:24:13] benefit all of us. [1:24:15] >> Thank you. [1:24:16] Thank you. [1:24:17] >> Amazing. Katrina, [1:24:19] >> uh yeah, just a question on the um [1:24:23] I know you had mentioned the [1:24:26] um stronger cyber security stance. Yes. [1:24:29] >> And just wondering if there's any um [1:24:31] budgetary [1:24:33] >> It's a great question. I left it blank [1:24:35] on purpose. [1:24:36] >> Okay. [1:24:36] >> Um part of that is [1:24:39] we could put it in towards um the [1:24:42] managed services portion of it. Um - [1:24:46] won't pay for [1:24:49] cyber security. [1:24:52] Um [1:24:54] we need to see what's out there really. [1:24:55] There's a number there's Arctic Fox is a [1:24:58] company that does it. Um uh you know [1:25:00] there's Sentinel One. There's a number [1:25:02] of them. So once we get a little bit [1:25:05] more clear and and there's also that and [1:25:07] I don't mean to sound paranoid but [1:25:08] there's that security component of it [1:25:10] too. I don't want people to know what [1:25:12] we're doing [1:25:13] >> in terms of of of protecting ourselves. [1:25:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. It is a yeah it's a public [1:25:17] meeting so understood. Um I was mostly [1:25:19] just wondering like the cost associated. [1:25:22] Um is there any possibility and this [1:25:24] might be a no but um to partner with the [1:25:27] town on cyber security or is it [1:25:29] something where we should be completely [1:25:30] separate? [1:25:31] I think there's always a possibility to [1:25:33] do things like that. Of course. Yeah. [1:25:35] >> Cool. I don't know that they're any [1:25:36] further along than we are, but happy to. [1:25:38] >> Right. Yeah. I just mean like it could [1:25:40] there be a cost savings if we like went [1:25:42] in on it. [1:25:42] >> If we both use like if the town used one [1:25:44] company and we jumped on with the two. [1:25:46] >> Yeah, [1:25:46] >> we can absolutely look into that. [1:25:48] >> Yeah. As long as it meets the needs of [1:25:49] the school and, you know, upholds that [1:25:52] goal of stronger cyber security. Yeah. [1:25:55] >> Great. Thank you so much. [1:25:56] >> Thank you, Alison. [1:25:59] So I wasn't aware that our digital learning [1:26:03] specialist is no longer a digital [1:26:05] >> it's part of our budget. She just has [1:26:07] shifted roles. [1:26:08] >> So are we hiring for that? [1:26:09] >> So [1:26:10] >> because there's no people being asked [1:26:11] for right now and that concerns me. [1:26:13] >> So we intend to fill the digital [1:26:14] learning specialist role. Um, as you can [1:26:17] imagine, the the digital learning [1:26:19] specialist is probably somebody that [1:26:20] already exists here within our [1:26:22] organization, and pulling them out of a [1:26:24] classroom in March or April doesn't make [1:26:27] a lot of sense for students. So, the [1:26:28] intent is to post it as we get closer [1:26:30] towards the end of the school year [1:26:31] because there are several um internal [1:26:33] candidates for that. [1:26:34] >> So, we filled one internal need with [1:26:36] another internal need, leaving another [1:26:38] internal. [1:26:38] >> Correct. Correct. So I'm just concerned [1:26:40] that that happened without I guess being [1:26:43] aware because we were already on the low [1:26:45] side. So I'm concerned why you're not [1:26:47] asking for people. [1:26:48] >> So I mean he is asking for people on the [1:26:50] back there. He's asking for another [1:26:52] network [1:26:52] >> but not this year. [1:26:54] >> You don't Well, [1:26:56] >> in the back. [1:26:57] >> So some of this educational technology [1:26:59] teachers can show up in Mary Beth's [1:27:01] presentation. Some of this can show up [1:27:03] in the as [1:27:04] >> because if we're half the size or [1:27:08] a third the size of some [1:27:13] I'm concerned that we're not asking for [1:27:16] enough and that concerns me. [1:27:19] >> Yeah. So the the tech integrator [1:27:20] position isn't a position that is though [1:27:24] in the past we've assigned tickets to [1:27:26] them in certain places. the the basis of [1:27:29] that role is to get into classrooms and [1:27:31] facilitate um technology for teachers to [1:27:34] work with teachers to you know [1:27:36] troubleshoot in the classroom in the [1:27:37] moment. It's they're it's a teacher [1:27:39] role. It's not a tech role. It's not [1:27:40] like a technician. It's not a repair. [1:27:42] It's none of those. [1:27:43] >> They work as a coach for [1:27:44] >> right. They're an instructional coach [1:27:46] for teachers. Um [1:27:48] >> well, I'm just looking at like schools [1:27:49] that have less students and less [1:27:52] teachers and they have seven. One [1:27:53] director, three media tech, one data [1:27:55] manager, two digital learning. Y [1:27:57] >> so I just feel that we're I mean even [1:28:01] some of the higher [1:28:02] >> Yeah, we've always been low. I think I [1:28:04] know each year we're at [1:28:06] >> we're at five. There's five positions. [1:28:08] Only four of them are filled right now. [1:28:10] No, no one is saying that all of these [1:28:11] are filled in all of these places [1:28:13] either. They're just what's budgeted [1:28:14] for. Um [1:28:15] >> do any of these other Dart schools, you [1:28:17] know, do as the what we do in terms of [1:28:21] replacing having the students do all of [1:28:23] that tech work? I've had a number of [1:28:26] them reach out to ask about our program [1:28:28] actually. So there there are some that [1:28:29] do. Um but we have a really nice model [1:28:32] with that. [1:28:32] >> I'm just wondering if that has something [1:28:34] to do with why our staff is a staff is [1:28:37] slightly lower. [1:28:38] >> Um I think that the low staff is a [1:28:41] reflection of the old way of doing [1:28:44] things in a time that that [1:28:48] >> is it's moving faster than we think. [1:28:52] Mhm. [1:28:53] >> Before we know it, you know, suddenly [1:28:55] everyone has an iPad suddenly. So, so I [1:28:58] don't know that it's we can work with [1:29:01] five. I would love to have more. I don't [1:29:03] know that this is the time to ask for [1:29:05] more. [1:29:05] >> Mhm. [1:29:06] >> Um and and it's absolutely something [1:29:08] that that we're looking to do. I mean, [1:29:11] in an ideal world, [1:29:12] >> we would have [1:29:14] so junior network admin, additional [1:29:16] media tech have always been part of our [1:29:18] admin recommended budget. In previous [1:29:20] years, they've been level two [1:29:21] priorities. So that this is not a new [1:29:23] thing. I would expect and foreshadow [1:29:26] that you will see some sort of tech ask [1:29:28] in presentations that you'll see at the [1:29:31] next meeting as well as on our running [1:29:33] list of priorities. [1:29:34] >> Well, that's why I just not seeing it [1:29:36] here kind of caught me off guard. [1:29:38] >> It's also the reason why we move towards [1:29:39] managed services too to act as sort of a junior network administrator. Mike [1:29:43] works handinhand with the content [1:29:45] supervisors in our teaching and learning [1:29:47] meeting and we have discussed this at [1:29:48] length and we are aware of the fact that [1:29:50] we need digital literacy teachers [1:29:52] educators probably in each building to [1:29:55] help students today start to navigate [1:29:57] some of these challenges that we're [1:29:59] talking about. They fall a little bit [1:30:00] outside the scope of what he does, but [1:30:02] they fit a little bit better into the [1:30:04] scope of asking. [1:30:05] >> Well, and I know I bring this up a [1:30:07] million times and it again falls between [1:30:09] the two, but like the kids aren't [1:30:10] learning how to type [1:30:12] >> and that drives me insane [1:30:15] >> cuz I the only of my four who knows how [1:30:17] to type I had to teach. [1:30:18] >> You're not wrong. [1:30:19] >> So that's a problem. like you know so [1:30:23] how we and again this is split but I [1:30:27] don't know this just is kind of I'm [1:30:29] hoping to see more numbers for people [1:30:32] because I think a lot of what's come out [1:30:34] of [1:30:36] >> be really happy next week [1:30:37] >> okay that's the need of the community [1:30:40] >> slightly horrified [1:30:41] >> and the need [1:30:42] >> perfect that'd be hard to do at this [1:30:44] point and the need of what you know with [1:30:47] the the struggles that we have the fact [1:30:51] that I think a lot of it falls in places [1:30:55] that shouldn't always have to fall in [1:30:57] those places and that's where [1:30:59] >> I think this number and it whether you [1:31:03] know moving internally to like there's [1:31:07] holes that aren't I'm not okay with I [1:31:09] guess [1:31:10] >> and keeping in mind that managed [1:31:11] services is in a way the equivalent of [1:31:13] having a person on staff. So, you know, [1:31:16] a junior network admin is the pretty [1:31:19] similar to the 60,000 that we would pay [1:31:21] for purchased services. [1:31:23] >> So, there's other ways around it. Again, [1:31:24] as to the point that Mike was making a [1:31:26] minute ago, our student help desk, [1:31:28] >> it's not a one for one for another media [1:31:30] tech, but it's a fraction of the work [1:31:32] that that person would be doing. So, [1:31:33] there there's there's some places where [1:31:35] it's not as big of a hole as it might [1:31:36] look like from this. [1:31:37] >> Yeah. Well, just like knowing that, you [1:31:38] know, like again, we're filling from one [1:31:40] side to another, but it's again there's [1:31:42] now a gap that some of our students [1:31:44] possibly aren't having. [1:31:45] >> Yeah. And so the reason why we move [1:31:47] forward with filling the librarian [1:31:49] position at the high school is because [1:31:50] it's student facing, right? So being [1:31:52] able to have students access the library [1:31:55] as opposed to being able to provide the [1:31:57] instructional coaching support to [1:31:59] teachers in the in the realm of in [1:32:01] instructional technology was a a choice [1:32:03] that we made. both positions are [1:32:05] budgeted and as Mike alluded to, um [1:32:07] Naomi is the exact person for the [1:32:09] Pemrook High School librarian position. [1:32:12] Um that is great things are going to [1:32:15] come out of of that that pairing. So [1:32:19] we try to be as least disruptive as [1:32:22] possible when we're making moves during [1:32:24] the school year. [1:32:26] >> All right. Uh so [1:32:28] >> yes. So, first of all, I mean, you're [1:32:30] doing a great job with very little, like [1:32:33] cuz you really I mean, this stuff is [1:32:35] really needed and you're somehow [1:32:36] managing to juggle it all and still make [1:32:39] it work. And I do have to say the one [1:32:41] thing that I really love about the way [1:32:44] Aaron prioritizes things is it's so [1:32:47] student centered. It's always about how [1:32:50] we can best serve the kids and get the [1:32:52] kids as much as possible. And that's one [1:32:54] of our strengths. But at the same time, [1:32:57] I do see Allison's point and I feel like [1:33:00] um at some point we really need to start [1:33:03] focusing [1:33:05] more on, you know, getting our tech up [1:33:08] to par with other districts. You know, [1:33:10] not that it's not cuz he's still he's [1:33:12] doing a lot with very little. Um but I [1:33:15] would like to see us make some sort of [1:33:17] an investment toward that goal because [1:33:20] it is like it is the infrastructure now. [1:33:23] This is this is what we do, right? like [1:33:25] everybody everything is tech now [1:33:27] everything is online everything I you [1:33:29] know we can't survive unless we foc like [1:33:33] you know we have to work on on um making [1:33:36] sure it's staff so uh but with that said [1:33:39] I do have a couple questions I just I [1:33:41] wanted to know um you know you you [1:33:44] everything's going toward the cloud [1:33:46] which I think is obviously needed so you [1:33:48] have a backup system so if for some [1:33:51] reason the cloud is attacked in any way [1:33:54] whatsoever. The backup system do you do [1:33:56] like that daily? Is that like a daily [1:33:58] backup? [1:33:59] >> So the cloud works sort of differently. [1:34:01] Um the cloud is the method by which we [1:34:05] won't need the backups which is neat. So [1:34:07] it it would be like if somebody attacked [1:34:10] Google [1:34:12] >> their infrastructure is so much more [1:34:14] robust and and honestly the threat [1:34:16] actors are they're they're great at what [1:34:18] they do and they have advanced [1:34:19] equipment. So getting into an [1:34:21] infrastructure like that is safer for us [1:34:23] so that we won't need those backup [1:34:24] systems. [1:34:26] >> But our backups update [1:34:28] >> regularly. They do. [1:34:29] >> They do. Yeah. Yeah. Daily. [1:34:31] >> Um [1:34:32] >> I know. I I I understand that and the [1:34:34] concept. But then there's this piece of [1:34:36] me that's like well whoever owns the [1:34:39] cloud owns us. Do you know what I mean? [1:34:42] So like it makes me nervous to think [1:34:44] about it. [1:34:44] >> You're a conspiracy theorist. This is [1:34:46] why [1:34:47] >> this is why having really solid um data [1:34:51] >> privacy is is critical, [1:34:54] >> right? [1:34:54] >> Because of that very reason. You're [1:34:56] right. [1:34:57] >> Sure. So I I feel like comfortable as [1:34:59] long as we're we're still backing it up [1:35:01] because I don't really know that the [1:35:02] cloud. [1:35:02] >> No, that's a critical part of our [1:35:04] infrastructure, the backups. Yes. Um, [1:35:06] and then, um, [1:35:09] oh, I wanted to mention also the, um, [1:35:12] the having the my school bucks piece. [1:35:16] >> I actually got to use it because TA [1:35:18] owed, it wasn't for tech though. It was [1:35:19] for for a club fee. It was like $25. But [1:35:22] I was like, "Oh, we can finally pay [1:35:24] with, [1:35:24] >> you know, my school bucks. I think [1:35:26] that's like a really value ad." Because [1:35:28] I'm like, "Oh, I got to remember to [1:35:29] write our check." I was thinking in the [1:35:30] back of my head, she needs a check. This [1:35:32] is so much easier. Good. I'd rather pay. [1:35:34] >> That was the idea is to to modernize it, [1:35:36] but also make it a living take. [1:35:38] >> I think you'll have more people paying [1:35:40] their fee if they know they can just go [1:35:42] online and do it rather than have to [1:35:44] bring it to the school or remember. [1:35:45] >> I feel like people are accustomed to [1:35:46] paying online. [1:35:47] >> Yes. [1:35:48] >> When we first started it was scary. [1:35:49] >> Yeah. [1:35:50] Absolutely. But I do want to [1:35:53] reiterate that I'm I am with Allison on [1:35:55] this. I do really feel like, you know, [1:35:58] it it's really difficult because every [1:35:59] year we add more emotional supports for [1:36:02] the kids, which I'm not saying we don't [1:36:03] need because we do, but I feel like this [1:36:07] is just as important, [1:36:08] >> right? I feel like the tech department [1:36:09] is emotional support for our staff. [1:36:12] >> I feel like Mike probably feels that [1:36:13] way, too. [1:36:14] >> Yeah. [1:36:15] >> So, I just wanted to throw that out [1:36:16] there. But, thank you so much for [1:36:17] everything. [1:36:18] >> I think it speaks to the nature of how [1:36:19] it's all changed, too. You know, the [1:36:21] future's faster than we all think. and I I I I'm complete alignment with [1:36:27] you. Um I think we do need more. [1:36:30] >> I think once, you know, Assistant [1:36:32] Superintendent Rust presents, you know, [1:36:34] we'll have sort of a a more clear path. [1:36:37] This couldn't be better news for me [1:36:38] actually hearing these questions come [1:36:40] up. [1:36:40] >> Don't get your hopes up. [1:36:41] >> So I I I will try. Um but also, thank [1:36:45] you. [1:36:45] >> Got a couple rounds to make it through [1:36:47] still. [1:36:47] >> Great. [1:36:49] >> Katrina, [1:36:50] >> no questions. Thank you. [1:36:51] >> Thank you. I just had one other [1:36:52] question. Sorry. Um in I know you [1:36:55] mentioned so similar to what Allison and [1:36:57] Sue had said around um getting [1:36:59] instructional positions. Um are there [1:37:02] districts around us that are doing it [1:37:03] right or like would be really good [1:37:05] examples to look at with AI instruction [1:37:08] or you know security for students [1:37:11] understanding a digital world? [1:37:13] >> Another great question. Um, yes. And [1:37:17] with all respect in the world, there [1:37:19] were some others that I know I'd like to [1:37:21] sort of steer clear from as well that maybe [1:37:27] » developing policy for something that [1:37:28] moves so quickly like AI is tricky. [1:37:31] >> Yeah. [1:37:31] >> Because by the time it's written and [1:37:34] implemented, it's already on its fifth [1:37:36] iteration. [1:37:37] >> It's more like a living document. [1:37:38] >> It's it's like a living document. [1:37:39] Precisely. Um, so Burlington is a great [1:37:43] example to look at. Um, [1:37:46] there are a number of them. Um, MASHP [1:37:49] has a really robust program. That's [1:37:50] another great one to check. [1:37:53] >> Are you going to list off the ones you [1:37:54] don't want to look at or [1:37:55] >> Sure. [1:37:57] >> Well, I think that everyone was a little [1:37:59] shell shocked, right? Like we [1:38:01] >> there's an adoption policy for [1:38:03] technology where we we vet vendors and we trial and pilot and all of that [1:38:08] stuff. And one day we came into work and [1:38:11] suddenly there was an AI agent and all [1:38:12] the things that we were using already. [1:38:14] There was no vetting process. It just [1:38:16] arrived, [1:38:16] >> right? We had that singularity moment in in 2022 when it all sort of started [1:38:21] and it's just moved faster than anyone [1:38:24] can keep up with. So, it's two-sided. [1:38:27] It's a great tool to use. Um, but it [1:38:30] needs it needs careful consideration and [1:38:34] a close look at at the ways that we can [1:38:37] teach our kids to use it responsibly. [1:38:40] >> Kids didn't start cheating when AI was [1:38:42] invented, [1:38:43] >> right? [1:38:43] >> Um, but that's the easiest lowest [1:38:46] hanging fruit that we can look at as [1:38:48] soon as it arrives, [1:38:49] >> right? [1:38:49] >> So, let's teach them to collaborate with [1:38:51] it in [1:38:53] >> 100%. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm just [1:38:55] thinking like um in planning out [1:38:57] whatever those instructional needs are [1:38:58] if there's ways that I'm sure you guys [1:39:00] will do like visits or talk with those [1:39:02] districts, things like that. But I think [1:39:04] that would be helpful just to see [1:39:06] >> we're we're very well connected. [1:39:08] >> You might already be doing some [1:39:10] I meet monthly with tech directors from [1:39:13] around the state and and we talk about [1:39:15] their programs and all of that. Yeah. So [1:39:18] >> yeah, there's fantastic [1:39:20] >> there's a vision. [1:39:20] >> Cool. Thank you. [1:39:24] question from the audience. Is that [1:39:25] okay? [1:39:26] >> Sure. [1:39:26] >> You don't mind? The name [1:39:28] >> lean flashman school street. Um I'm a [1:39:30] network professional so I just have a [1:39:32] question that might help also them [1:39:33] understand a little bit. Um for your [1:39:35] managed services is it just [1:39:36] infrastructure maintenance or are you is [1:39:38] it a collaborative team? So when you're [1:39:39] having an issue you have access to all [1:39:41] sorts of people. It's a little bit of [1:39:43] both actually. That's normal. [1:39:44] >> Yeah. So when that on on premises when [1:39:47] the on when the people do have to come [1:39:48] on site we have a lot in time that where [1:39:51] they do that but it's it's sort of an on [1:39:53] demand sort of thing where like I [1:39:55] mentioned if we notice that the Wi-Fi is [1:39:57] slow or down in one particular room they [1:39:59] can go in and get it up and running for [1:40:00] us. So they can do a lot more while it [1:40:02] doesn't it's not a replacement for [1:40:03] people [1:40:04] >> if he needs something he can reach out [1:40:05] to people for support or different ideas [1:40:07] or solutions to complex issues. So [1:40:10] that's something that you may not [1:40:11] realize why he's able to do so much. Um, [1:40:13] and I had a small question about the [1:40:15] VMware server. Sure. Um, is it just [1:40:17] replacing one of the VMware servers and [1:40:18] not the sand or anything else or [1:40:20] >> just the one? That's what I figured. [1:40:21] Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. [1:40:24] >> Thank you. We'll let you off the hot [1:40:26] seat. Thank you so much. [1:40:28] >> What else? Well, there you go. You [1:40:31] earned it. [1:40:32] >> Thanks for your time. [1:40:33] >> Thank you very much. [1:40:34] >> Thank you for the presentation. [1:40:35] >> Absolutely. [1:40:37] >> All right. Well, as we can see, there's [1:40:39] nobody over there with the name tag that [1:40:40] says director of facilities. So, I am [1:40:43] going to get the maintenance department [1:40:45] putting on your third hat. [1:40:47] >> Um, we'll see how it goes. [1:40:52] » So, similar to how maintenance has been [1:40:55] prevented uh presented in the past, it's [1:40:57] not a flashy department, right? It's not [1:40:59] um a lot of accolades for our current [1:41:03] facilities department, but um we have [1:41:05] made some improvements in the past year. [1:41:07] Um, the high school has been on a summer [1:41:10] painting project schedule for the past [1:41:11] several years where uh designated areas [1:41:14] of the building are identified for [1:41:15] painting, which painting is one of those [1:41:17] tasks that we just never seem to get to. [1:41:19] Um, so Mark and the maintenance staff at [1:41:21] the high school has made great progress [1:41:23] um by sticking to a schedule each [1:41:25] summer. We have been um doing ongoing [1:41:28] roof repairs. So our roofs were replaced [1:41:30] at four of our five schools um every [1:41:32] school except Brianville um between 2011 [1:41:35] and 2012. Um so they are relatively new [1:41:38] in the scheme of roofs but they do still [1:41:41] um occasionally need repairs. So we are [1:41:42] chasing a lot of roof repairs across our [1:41:44] buildings. Um again I think at the high [1:41:47] school in particular the roof repair [1:41:49] center around that atrium. It is I think [1:41:51] in 1980 was probably a beautiful design. [1:41:54] Um there's so many different high school [1:41:57] construction models now but I'm sure [1:41:59] back then that was the model school. um [1:42:00] that is the area that causes us the most [1:42:02] trouble when it comes to roof um leaks [1:42:05] and repairs at Peenrook High School, but [1:42:06] we are actively working on them. Um when [1:42:09] the elementary and secondary principles [1:42:11] were here the other day, they did [1:42:12] highlight some of these projects as [1:42:14] well. So, you heard about the uh [1:42:15] additional water filtrations here at [1:42:17] North. Um North is in a three-phase [1:42:19] lighting project. Um you've seen our [1:42:21] lovely um visitors have been walking [1:42:23] around to help the lights stay on. Um [1:42:25] so, that is a project that is ongoing [1:42:27] here at North. All of the classroom and [1:42:29] the shared spaces are done. The hallways [1:42:31] are the third phase that is left. Um [1:42:33] Habamok has a new playground. Um thanks [1:42:35] to the uh suggestion of Allison and [1:42:38] exploring that with the community um [1:42:40] preservation funds, we were able to get [1:42:42] a new playground at Hobok. We also [1:42:44] replaced the bulk of the carpeting at [1:42:46] Hobok this past summer. There's only um [1:42:48] two areas at Hobok left with carpeting. [1:42:50] It's the main office and the ensemble [1:42:52] room. As you can imagine, the ensemble [1:42:54] room requires a flooring material other [1:42:57] than lenolum. So, carpet makes sense in [1:43:00] there. Um, but we'll look to replace [1:43:01] that carpet this summer. And Habamok [1:43:03] also received a new PA system over the [1:43:06] course of August. Um, at the middle [1:43:08] school, we have done some significant [1:43:10] HVAC repairs. They also got a new PA [1:43:13] system, and we continue to look at roof [1:43:15] repairs. Um, finally, Brian Phil got a [1:43:17] new gym roof. Um, I think David is [1:43:20] probably the person that emails me the [1:43:22] most to say there's shingles in the [1:43:23] parking lot at Bryantville after a [1:43:25] windstorm. So, I'm happy to say that the [1:43:27] Bryant Blue roof has been replaced. Um, [1:43:30] there was some additional plumbing [1:43:31] upgrades that happened at Bryantville [1:43:32] and we continue to work on HVAC repairs [1:43:35] there as well. Um, [1:43:38] the maintenance budget on paper looks [1:43:40] huge. So, let's talk a little bit about [1:43:42] it. We have 18 custodial personnel. So [1:43:44] there is um one dayshift custodian in [1:43:47] each of our buildings. Our elementary [1:43:49] schools and our middle school have two [1:43:50] evening custodians. Our high school has [1:43:52] three evening custodians. We have um an [1:43:55] athletic custodian that Brian talked a [1:43:57] little bit about. We have a position for [1:43:59] a wastewater treatment operator. That [1:44:01] position is a 6 wastewater treatment [1:44:03] operator and a point4 custodian. We have [1:44:06] not found anybody to be the wastewater [1:44:08] treatment um operator. So, though that [1:44:09] position is budgeted, it is unfilled [1:44:11] right now. And those services are being [1:44:13] provided by Weston and Samson. And we [1:44:15] just most recently um had a retirement [1:44:17] in our department in Diane Elliot, who [1:44:20] everybody knows and loves. Our part-time [1:44:22] custodian, part-time bus driver did [1:44:23] retire um at the end of February [1:44:25] vacation. So, that position is currently [1:44:26] posted. Um the bulk of the money in [1:44:30] maintenance, it goes to contracted [1:44:31] services. So, those are our um [1:44:33] agreements with vendors for plumbing, [1:44:35] HVIC, electrical. Um we uh participate [1:44:39] in an annual collaborative buy with [1:44:41] other Southshore towns that allows us to [1:44:43] get paper towels, toilet paper um at a [1:44:45] much reduced rate um based off of the [1:44:48] volume that's being purchased by that [1:44:50] consortium. Um we do try to cover our [1:44:53] custodial absences with substitutes when [1:44:56] we can. Um so we do spend about $50,000 [1:44:59] a year on substitute coverage and then [1:45:01] another big portion of the budget is [1:45:02] utility services. So that includes heat, [1:45:04] electric, phone, water, all all the same [1:45:07] ones that you have at your home. [1:45:12] A breakout of um that contracted [1:45:14] services line. Just kind of a snapshot [1:45:15] of where we are today. There's currently [1:45:17] $61,000 available in that budget line. [1:45:20] Um that is [1:45:23] probably not enough money to get us to [1:45:25] the end of the year. So as we get to the [1:45:27] latter part of May and early part of [1:45:28] June, we start talking about, okay, [1:45:29] what's an emergency that needs to be [1:45:31] fixed and what can we wait for July 1. [1:45:33] um to address. So, we do keep an eye on [1:45:34] that number. Um the miscellaneous pieces [1:45:36] are um reimbursements for some of the staff if we're asking them to travel [1:45:43] between buildings or um some [1:45:45] professional development stuff for those [1:45:46] staff. It's it's not a big number. [1:45:48] Preventative maintenance, that's like [1:45:50] the belts and um whatnot for our rooftop [1:45:53] units. We do a whole lot of repairs. And [1:45:56] so when you're talking about five school [1:45:58] buildings that um were renovated or [1:46:00] remodeled in 1999 or 2000, every single [1:46:03] thing in this district is about the same [1:46:06] age. Every toilet is 26 years old. Every [1:46:09] faucet and fixture is 26 years old. So [1:46:12] we do a whole lot of repairs. Um and [1:46:16] that makes sense, right? That's that's [1:46:18] where the bulk of our money would be [1:46:19] spent. Um you know, it's not anything [1:46:22] that's outrageous. I would say the [1:46:24] biggest driver in that repair number [1:46:25] right now is HVAC and plumbing. Um, in [1:46:28] the past 18 months or so, we've seen [1:46:30] significant plumbing concerns in all of [1:46:31] our buildings, but the plumber that that [1:46:34] we contract with, Holdley, told us as [1:46:36] soon as it starts, it's going to keep [1:46:38] going, right? Um, so they have been [1:46:40] great. They're super responsive and they [1:46:41] come out all of the time that we call, [1:46:43] but it's it's a larger issue. some of [1:46:45] the way that the pipes are um [1:46:47] constructed from you know most of the [1:46:49] buildings were existing to remain the [1:46:50] pipes are from 1976 in some places um [1:46:54] and you know plumbing technology has [1:46:56] come a long way as well um so you know [1:46:57] switching out some of the the [1:46:59] connections and whatnot is really where [1:47:01] we find the bulk of our funding going [1:47:04] service agreements so we have a um [1:47:05] agreements for some of our equipment [1:47:07] whether it's our lawnmowers we have um [1:47:11] Mike talked a little bit about the HVAC [1:47:13] and how that's um run through the cloud [1:47:15] Now, so we have a service agreement with [1:47:16] Automated Logix. They run all of our [1:47:17] rooftop units through the buildings. Um [1:47:20] we do have a a a bit of um supply money [1:47:23] that happens through May's contract [1:47:24] services. That's, you know, going to [1:47:26] Rockies to get whatever we need over the [1:47:28] course um of the school day or school [1:47:30] year. Um and as I said before, [1:47:32] wastewater treatment is a a position [1:47:34] that is budgeted in our budget, but [1:47:36] right now we are using a um contracted [1:47:39] services model for that. [1:47:40] >> And how much does that cost to cut that? [1:47:42] >> That is it. It's 66,000. So, so what we [1:47:45] would be paying a person, we're paying a [1:47:46] service. [1:47:47] >> Correct. [1:47:52] » Okay. Like every department, we have [1:47:53] goals too in the maintenance department. [1:47:55] Um, so we have some projects that are on [1:47:59] the capital warrant for the spring. Um, [1:48:01] we have been really taking a a look at [1:48:03] HVAC across the district, focusing a lot [1:48:05] of our energy at the elementary level. [1:48:07] So, we have um a request on there for [1:48:09] the funding associated with three new um [1:48:11] HVAC units at the elementary level. Um [1:48:14] we also have phase two of the flooring [1:48:16] project on the capital warrant. So, we [1:48:18] would be looking to complete the project [1:48:20] at Habamok and take a look at some of [1:48:21] the spaces um in the other buildings [1:48:23] that have um carpet that is 26 to 30 [1:48:27] years old. Um continuing our roof [1:48:30] repairs. Um each year Mark identifies [1:48:32] that rear courtyard of Pemrick High [1:48:34] School as an area that could use some [1:48:35] love and attention if you've entered or [1:48:37] exit the building from that side. You [1:48:38] can see um there's a lot of um [1:48:40] disintegrating bricks and a lot of [1:48:42] masonary work that needs to happen back [1:48:44] there. Um the Bryant build rooftop unit [1:48:47] in the library needs to be replaced. So [1:48:49] again, using some of the capital funds [1:48:50] for that. Um Jen Simmons when she was [1:48:52] here the other day also mentioned the [1:48:54] desire to have um at least one more [1:48:56] water filtration system. maybe not the [1:48:58] eight that they have here at North [1:48:59] Denver, but at least one more. Um, a lot [1:49:01] of brick work needs to happen at the [1:49:03] middle school. Again, um, you know, the brick repointing is something that's [1:49:07] on our capital plan, but is not [1:49:09] something that gets funded [1:49:09] year-over-year. So, really targeting [1:49:11] some funds towards that. Continued HVAC [1:49:14] repairs is really a common theme across [1:49:16] the mall. And as I mentioned, North [1:49:18] would be entering its third phase of its [1:49:20] lighting project. [1:49:21] >> Can I ask a question? How did North end [1:49:23] up with eight and the other online [1:49:25] preschools? Not [1:49:26] >> a grant. So they he used the swag grant [1:49:28] for that. [1:49:29] >> But it was only for one school. They [1:49:31] couldn't be split. [1:49:32] >> So the north PTO and Mr. Murphy wrote [1:49:35] the grant together. So the um grant [1:49:37] covered a portion of it and then the PTO [1:49:39] covered a piece of the plumbing [1:49:40] associated with it. Each of the schools [1:49:42] can apply. Um North was the only one [1:49:44] that applied last year. Jen and the [1:49:45] Brianville P2 are applying this year as [1:49:47] well. [1:49:47] >> Did they So it was known that this was [1:49:50] an option that the schools could have [1:49:51] done at the same time. So I think Mike [1:49:53] was a little bit further along in the [1:49:55] process and shared how it was going with [1:49:57] the other two buildings and then they [1:49:59] would get it to the next cycle. [1:50:01] >> So there still a grant that's a [1:50:03] possibility of school. [1:50:04] >> Yes. [1:50:07] » Um quick question. um and not making any [1:50:11] assumptions or anything like that for [1:50:13] the future and what happens with um [1:50:15] Southshore VOTE and all that, but are [1:50:17] there any of these projects that could [1:50:19] eventually like if we were if that does [1:50:22] end up happening? Would any of these [1:50:24] projects be something that we could [1:50:26] utilize students to help with a project [1:50:28] on? [1:50:28] >> Sure. I mean, Southshore Tech has a [1:50:30] metal fabrication shop. Um they don't [1:50:33] have a masonary shop. They do have a [1:50:35] landscape shop. So there's definitely [1:50:36] some some pieces where we could [1:50:38] capitalize on that, but you can also [1:50:40] engage with Southshore Tech as not a [1:50:42] member town. [1:50:44] >> Um so happy to to explore that as well. [1:50:47] I know Brian um was talking with Bristol [1:50:49] Plymouth um about softball dugos, right? [1:50:52] So there's we're we're we're kind of [1:50:54] marketing ourselves out there. Um one of [1:50:57] the other large capital projects for the [1:50:59] schools is the parking lots. Um we get a [1:51:02] lot of feedback about the potholes and [1:51:03] the sinking drains. Um, it is at all [1:51:06] five of our buildings an area that needs [1:51:08] further explanation. And I will be [1:51:09] transparent and say parking lots has [1:51:11] been on the maintenance department goals [1:51:12] now for six years. Um, we have not made [1:51:15] much progress in that other than [1:51:17] plugging the holes or relin parking [1:51:19] lots. We have not made any huge capital [1:51:22] improvements to digging them up and and [1:51:23] re [1:51:24] >> and we're separate from the town. Like [1:51:25] we can't be added to their [1:51:26] >> No, we're not part of their pavement [1:51:28] management plan. [1:51:29] >> Could we be? [1:51:30] >> No. Okay. And we don't the chapter [1:51:33] whatever funds [1:51:35] >> cannot be used for [1:51:36] >> Okay. [1:51:39] » I mean we'd like to get some days in the [1:51:41] facility department too. So um [1:51:44] heck why not start with a full-time [1:51:46] director of operations an operations [1:51:48] manager. Let's go for that. Um we've [1:51:51] obviously had conversations in the past [1:51:52] about is there some capacity to share a [1:51:55] facilities director with the town. [1:51:57] Obviously still open to those [1:51:58] conversations. I'm not sure that our [1:52:00] timelines will ever sync up like that. [1:52:02] Um, but I do think given this the the [1:52:04] age of all all five of our buildings, we [1:52:06] do need to start moving in the direction [1:52:08] where some a portion of somebody's [1:52:10] full-time job is maintenance. Um, and in [1:52:13] really planning out the projects. I do [1:52:16] not want to be in the position where [1:52:17] we're asking for five school buildings [1:52:18] over the course of three years. We have [1:52:20] to be thoughtful about how we're looking [1:52:21] whether we're looking for new buildings [1:52:23] or to remodel um or renovate what we [1:52:25] have, but really, you know, giving lead [1:52:27] time to the community. I'm far ahead of [1:52:29] that. [1:52:30] >> Um I think we will look to increase [1:52:33] contracted services. The repairs are [1:52:35] getting more costly to the point that [1:52:37] has been made previously about the cost [1:52:39] of materials has increased. The cost of [1:52:41] labor has increased. Um so we are seeing [1:52:43] some of that. Um and we did used to have [1:52:46] one additional custodian in the [1:52:48] district. It was cut in 2013. Um you [1:52:51] know we may want to look at adding that [1:52:52] position back in to flow between the [1:52:54] buildings. We do have um a solid amount [1:52:57] of custodial absence across the [1:52:59] district. If we had a body that could [1:53:00] kind of fill in when we can't find a [1:53:02] sub, that would be great. And also [1:53:03] somebody that could focus some of their [1:53:05] energy on the outside maintenance. [1:53:06] That's our custodians do get to that, [1:53:08] but it is really at the bottom of the [1:53:09] list when we're talking about getting [1:53:10] the buildings ready um for occupancy the [1:53:13] next day. [1:53:15] >> Um between those requests, is there one [1:53:18] that's more like most important to you? [1:53:21] Um, I I think the director of operations [1:53:24] is something that you'll hear again as [1:53:26] we continue to go through the position. [1:53:28] I think adding other pieces to the [1:53:31] department don't make sense until you [1:53:32] have somebody that's really [1:53:33] >> directing it. Yeah. And one other quick [1:53:36] question with the um our strategic plan [1:53:39] is kind looking at and obviously we [1:53:42] don't have a copy yet but um looking at [1:53:46] um kind of the timeline for facilities [1:53:49] and um all of that part going so as I [1:53:53] said in the budget subcommittee meeting [1:53:55] that we had earlier today I just want to [1:53:57] temper your expectations when it comes [1:53:58] to what the strategic plan looks like in [1:54:00] its current form. So it's really big [1:54:02] rocks, right? It's really the ideas. [1:54:03] It's the action steps that really [1:54:05] dictate the work that we're going to [1:54:06] undertake for the next 5 years. So if [1:54:09] something says to evaluate [1:54:12] um scheduling of buildings, to me, one [1:54:15] of those action steps is looking at [1:54:17] grades span schools, looking at closing [1:54:18] a school, looking at all of that. So I I [1:54:21] think really how much we get out of the [1:54:23] strategic plan is really a function of [1:54:24] you know how [1:54:26] >> how much administration is is looking to [1:54:27] take on and how much accountability [1:54:29] you're looking for us to have as working [1:54:31] towards those milestones. So when you [1:54:33] get the strategic plan it is not going [1:54:34] to say um move to gradespan schools by [1:54:38] 2031. It doesn't say that. Um, but it [1:54:41] does there's several places where it [1:54:43] says to evaluate some of the makeups and [1:54:45] the components that we would need to [1:54:46] have a better handle on in order to make [1:54:48] that recommendation. That makes more [1:54:50] sense. Thank you. [1:54:55] » Any questions? [1:54:56] >> Fewer maintenance questions. [1:54:58] >> So exciting. [1:55:00] >> All the questions were answered. [1:55:02] >> Yeah. [1:55:02] >> All right, let's jump in. Uh, [1:55:05] consideration first read the [1:55:07] superintendent. I'm sorry. [1:55:08] >> We're still going, David. Here we go. So [1:55:09] in your packet you have for first read [1:55:11] the 26 27 school year calendar. Um [1:55:15] couple of things that are different [1:55:16] moving into next year than our of from [1:55:19] this current year and for previous [1:55:20] years. So with the newly ratified [1:55:23] collective bargaining agreement, we are [1:55:25] doing open houses. Um so that's really a [1:55:28] meet and greet at the schools with [1:55:29] students and staff um the day before [1:55:32] school starts. So those are on your [1:55:34] schedule um for 91. Um it's the [1:55:37] afternoon, the day before school where [1:55:39] kids can come in with their parents or [1:55:40] caregivers, see the classroom, meet the [1:55:42] teacher so that the first day is a [1:55:43] little bit less scary. Um but there is [1:55:45] still a tremendous value to what we used [1:55:47] to call an open house, which we're now [1:55:49] calling a curriculum night where parents [1:55:50] and caregivers can come in, meet with [1:55:53] students, um teachers, and find out what [1:55:55] the curricular expectations are for the [1:55:56] course. Right? That's still something [1:55:57] that needs to happen. So those dates are [1:56:00] listed on the calendar as well. [1:56:02] Um we played a little bit with um [1:56:05] conferences. Um so previously we had two [1:56:09] iterations of conferences in the fall [1:56:11] and early winter. One um that last week [1:56:14] of October and one that first week of [1:56:15] December. The feedback that we got um [1:56:18] from staff at the elementary level is [1:56:20] with having conference those two [1:56:22] conference options so far apart, they [1:56:24] were seeing that many elementary [1:56:26] families were registering for an October [1:56:28] conference and a December conference. [1:56:30] that was not the intent. Um so we have [1:56:33] gone down to one conference um for each [1:56:36] of those those grade levels. So October [1:56:39] 28th would be conferences for 7 through [1:56:40] 12. That lines up with when term one [1:56:42] ends and then um o December 2nd would be [1:56:47] conferences for K through 6. That lines [1:56:49] up with when the the term ends um the [1:56:52] term one ends at the elementary level. [1:56:54] You'll remember in previous years we've [1:56:56] had a November professional development [1:56:58] day um that synced up with election day [1:57:01] um and we were using half of that day [1:57:03] for day conferences for folks. We do not [1:57:05] have that in this calendar. Um you know [1:57:08] having a a professional development b [1:57:10] day day that early on in the year wasn't [1:57:12] super productive for us. now that all of [1:57:15] the voting takes place outside of our [1:57:16] schools, we'd rather have it as a [1:57:18] student day and save that professional [1:57:20] development day, that third day for a [1:57:23] date later in the year. Um, it also [1:57:25] gives us some flexibility with the [1:57:27] current situation that we're in right [1:57:29] now. If you have a professional [1:57:30] development day scheduled for March [1:57:33] 29th, you can make a decision about [1:57:36] March 29th in midFebruary if there's a [1:57:38] need to adjust your calendar or do [1:57:40] something like that. So our third [1:57:42] professional development day for staff [1:57:44] is currently on March 29th. Gives us a [1:57:47] little flexibility that we don't have um [1:57:49] this year to the attune of the [1:57:52] conversation we were having at the [1:57:53] beginning of the meeting. Um half days [1:57:55] or early release days have shifted a [1:57:57] little bit in this version of the [1:57:58] calendar. Again, as part of our [1:58:00] collective bargaining agreement, we have [1:58:01] agreed to have the student day be the [1:58:03] same length elementary and secondary. um [1:58:06] before the student day at the middle [1:58:08] school and high school was significantly [1:58:09] shorter than it was at the secondary [1:58:11] level. We shifted this the day across [1:58:14] the board at all five schools. That's a [1:58:15] little bit longer at the secondary level [1:58:17] and a little bit shorter at the [1:58:18] elementary level. Um the intent on those [1:58:20] half days is to not serve a full lunch [1:58:22] in the cafeteria. We do not serve a [1:58:24] lunch on those days at the secondary [1:58:26] level. Right now at the elementary [1:58:27] school, we don't serve snack on half [1:58:29] days. So we'd go back to more of a [1:58:31] robust snack model than serving lunch. [1:58:34] um grab-and-go lunch would still be [1:58:35] available for students that have um that [1:58:37] we have concerns about food insecurity [1:58:39] for, but the day would not be um [1:58:42] scheduled around a formal 25minute lunch [1:58:44] period. [1:58:47] With the late start of school and the [1:58:49] Junth holiday in June, our tentative [1:58:53] last day of school is Thursday, June [1:58:55] 17th. So that means with one weather [1:58:57] day, we're already into Monday. Um the [1:59:01] 185th day for next year would be Friday, [1:59:04] June 25th. Again, with a late start, [1:59:06] we're significantly later in June um [1:59:09] than we have been in years past. [1:59:13] >> This is a first read, [1:59:14] >> open to any and all feedback. [1:59:16] >> Can I ask some questions now? [1:59:17] >> Of course. You can go in whatever order [1:59:19] you want. Okay. [1:59:20] >> Oh, [1:59:21] >> I feel like she was first. She started. [1:59:24] I just was curious why we're doing the [1:59:26] later start like the [1:59:28] >> So we can't start before Labor Day. So [1:59:31] Labor Day is late this year. Um Labor [1:59:33] Day is the Monday June uh September 7th. [1:59:38] >> We can't start. Well, okay. [1:59:41] >> Teachers can't start any earlier than [1:59:42] the Monday before Labor Day. So you can [1:59:44] see we have them coming Monday, August [1:59:46] 31st and Tuesday, a uh September 1st. [1:59:49] And then students traditionally the [1:59:50] Wednesday and Thursday of that week is [1:59:52] just the late Labor Day that [1:59:53] >> throws the whole thing off a little bit. [1:59:55] Got it. [1:59:56] >> Late Labor Day. [1:59:57] >> This is the Labor Day. [1:59:58] >> Yes. [1:59:59] >> Give it down the thing. Trina, you have [2:00:00] a question or good? [2:00:01] >> No, no, I'm good. [2:00:02] >> Okay, Alison, we'll give you a shot. [2:00:03] We'll work backwards. [2:00:04] >> Um, okay. So, [2:00:07] we all know school days in the beginning [2:00:10] of the year are more important because [2:00:12] of, you know, MCCAST and APs and [2:00:16] whatnot. [2:00:18] How [2:00:19] in this? I don't know if Mary Beth or [2:00:21] who, but are AP tests and MCCAST [2:00:25] unchanged even though this is like a [2:00:27] whole week basically later because [2:00:29] >> I think the MCCAST window will shift. Um [2:00:31] >> MCAST will be the 24 it'll start the [2:00:34] 24th of March at the high school. [2:00:36] >> And what about the AP test? Those [2:00:38] >> the AP tests are generally the first two [2:00:40] weeks in May. So they would start um the [2:00:43] 3rd of May. that's generally it's a [2:00:45] nationwide [2:00:46] >> and so that's where like the concern of [2:00:48] and I get it we can't do differently. Um [2:00:55] it's this is just a lot there's just a [2:00:57] lot of time off and having it the [2:00:59] potential of having to go to school [2:01:01] until you know almost the end of June. [2:01:07] So, there's no time off built into this [2:01:09] calendar other than observances of [2:01:11] federal holidays in the three [2:01:12] professional development days that are [2:01:14] outlined in the collective bargaining [2:01:15] agreement. [2:01:16] >> Yes. [2:01:16] >> Um there's, as you can see, fewer half [2:01:19] days in next year's calendar than there [2:01:21] was in previous year year's calendars, [2:01:23] keeping in mind that a full day of [2:01:24] instruction in January is more valuable [2:01:26] to us. Um you'll see that the half day [2:01:28] or early release day in May moved to a [2:01:31] Friday. um thought process being that [2:01:34] the high school is looking to have a [2:01:36] Friday prom instead of a Saturday [2:01:37] potentially and we wanted to give them [2:01:39] some flexibility um there. So, we're [2:01:41] trying something new with that day, but [2:01:42] there's I think two less early release [2:01:44] days in the calendar for next year than [2:01:46] there is for this year. So, [2:01:48] >> but having like two days off in March [2:01:52] and then you don't know I I guess [2:01:55] >> 26th is Good Friday. [2:01:57] >> Yeah. [2:01:57] >> So, we're we're pretty much off that [2:01:59] day. um or and you know when we look at [2:02:02] putting that professional development [2:02:04] day that third one somewhere in the [2:02:06] calendar we we generally look to back it [2:02:08] up against another day off so it's [2:02:09] something that [2:02:10] >> Massachusetts has always done instead of [2:02:13] doing like spring break around [2:02:16] >> March having February [2:02:18] >> February and April that's just [2:02:20] >> nobody's trying to change that [2:02:22] >> no [2:02:22] >> in New England [2:02:23] >> it wouldn't make any sense to try to go [2:02:26] to school six weeks you [2:02:27] >> did it one year it did not go well for [2:02:29] April. So that's not [2:02:30] >> Yeah. [2:02:31] >> So I'm just looking at like how many you [2:02:32] know we end up having [2:02:33] >> I know but getting rid of February and [2:02:36] getting rid of April and then putting a [2:02:38] twoe break in March is [2:02:39] >> the same. [2:02:40] >> Well, no, but I'm I'm looking at more [2:02:42] like how many days of school can we get [2:02:44] before May 3rd basically, [2:02:46] >> right? So again, putting a spring break [2:02:47] in March and here in April doesn't give [2:02:49] you any more days before. [2:02:51] >> Well, it's it's just there's a there's [2:02:53] going to be like how many is that? one [2:02:55] like a lot of weeks of school of [2:03:00] >> but not for seniors. So [2:03:02] >> yeah, not just it's just after MCCAST [2:03:04] and after AP tests and it's just it's just the schedule just does not make sense in New England to [2:03:11] me. But I [2:03:11] >> it's not just Pinrook. [2:03:12] >> I No, I I understand that. It's just [2:03:14] >> it's really I mean the College Board [2:03:16] could be more responsive to and have a [2:03:18] different schedule for more different [2:03:20] regions. So [2:03:22] >> yeah. No, I know. And that's where it's the fight to the end of where this [2:03:27] is what it is. So, um, [2:03:30] >> are we able to post this online so [2:03:31] people can see? [2:03:32] >> We can post it as a draft. Yes. [2:03:33] >> Yeah. So, people can see what the early [2:03:34] release times are and whatnot so that [2:03:37] people can if they have feedback. [2:03:39] >> Feedback. Um, [2:03:41] >> part of the problem too is like just the [2:03:42] start of is when Labor Day is. [2:03:45] >> It couldn't come at a word like it's the [2:03:47] latest it could possibly be. [2:03:49] >> It is the latest it could possibly be. [2:03:50] So, it's going to be [2:03:51] >> which is annoying. a potentially long. I [2:03:53] don't know if it's still a normal amount [2:03:54] of weeks of summer, but I just think [2:03:56] it's kind of [2:03:57] >> I I I [2:03:58] >> our hands are tied on this. I just don't [2:04:00] like it and I know that we don't have [2:04:02] any choice and it's just like having a [2:04:05] Wednesday off in November. That's [2:04:08] >> that's what it is. [2:04:10] >> I will I don't want to beat a dead horse [2:04:12] with something we can't fix. So, [2:04:14] >> and is it is it a state thing here [2:04:17] >> or is it in our contract that they can't [2:04:19] we can't have school on [2:04:20] >> contract? I think they're holiday. [2:04:22] >> Oh, just like the labor law. [2:04:24] >> The labor law. No, in Virginia. In [2:04:26] Virginia, they go to school in Veterans [2:04:28] Day. [2:04:29] >> So that's the only reason I know my [2:04:31] daughter. It's my daughter's birthday. [2:04:32] >> So none of this has anything none of [2:04:34] that has anything to do with our [2:04:35] collective bargain. Holidays are not [2:04:37] spelled out. [2:04:38] >> No. No. This was when I when I had her, [2:04:39] I was like, "Oh my gosh, she's never [2:04:41] going to have to go to school on her [2:04:42] birthday." And then we she absolutely [2:04:44] went to school in Fairfax County on [2:04:45] Veterans Day. [2:04:46] >> Interesting. [2:04:48] >> Yeah. It wasn't until [2:04:49] >> it must be a state. Well, that's what I [2:04:50] was just wondering. [2:04:51] >> Is Veterans Day a state holiday? [2:04:53] >> I don't know. [2:04:53] >> I'm gonna do some research holiday, but [2:04:55] maybe the state [2:04:56] >> dictates how I don't know. [2:04:58] >> I just know that the kids went to school [2:05:00] today. She went to school up until we [2:05:02] moved here on her birthday. [2:05:03] >> We should also I feel like not you're [2:05:05] not saying that, but we could also check [2:05:08] with a veteran service agency. I feel [2:05:10] like we don't want to [2:05:12] >> take away the Somebody has a real big [2:05:15] problem. No, I'm not I'm not suggesting. [2:05:16] I'm just more wondering. [2:05:20] >> It is an interesting point. Could it not [2:05:21] be? I mean, I Veterans Day, I think, is [2:05:23] the only one that's actually celebrated. [2:05:24] Whenever November 11th is, there's no [2:05:26] school. Correct. [2:05:27] >> It could be a Monday or Friday or [2:05:28] Thursday. [2:05:29] >> Always in states like Massachusetts, [2:05:32] public schools are legally required to [2:05:33] close legal holiday. [2:05:37] Yeah. [2:05:38] >> But it must be statewide. I mean, it [2:05:40] must I was convinced like when she had [2:05:43] when I had [2:05:43] >> I didn't know that. I I thought it was [2:05:45] nationwide. [2:05:46] >> Yeah, I Yeah, that's why I was like I [2:05:48] thought so too until I had a kid that [2:05:50] had to go to school on Veterans Day. So, [2:05:51] Yep. Okay. I would like this posted just [2:05:54] so that people can see that the you know [2:05:55] because I think people will have to [2:05:56] adjust for the early release times [2:06:00] >> um being different. [2:06:03] >> All right. [2:06:03] >> And maybe even consider having [2:06:06] >> Fairfax County Public Schools says they [2:06:08] do not have school on Labor Day on [2:06:09] Veterans Day. says they do not students [2:06:12] usually do not have classes. [2:06:14] >> No, they [2:06:15] >> and they often use this day for [2:06:17] professional development. [2:06:20] >> Maybe they've changed since I've [2:06:21] movement. [2:06:21] >> Yeah. [2:06:21] >> So, but I'm curious too if we can do bag [2:06:25] lunches like as a standard [2:06:27] >> for kids. [2:06:28] >> Yeah. [2:06:29] >> Across the board. Yeah. [2:06:30] >> Yes. Because I think it's funded as an [2:06:32] enterprise, right? Like I don't know if [2:06:34] we have it where they opt out instead of [2:06:36] opt in. [2:06:37] >> Nope. So, in order for us to give a [2:06:40] student a bag lunch and have it qualify [2:06:42] as a reimburseable meal, we have to get [2:06:44] their um my school box number. So, they [2:06:48] have to opt into it and say, "I'm going [2:06:49] to take a meal on the way." [2:06:51] >> Okay. But I think I'd like to have that [2:06:53] be [2:06:54] >> a norm. [2:06:55] >> Yeah. [2:06:56] >> That that's a conversation we had with [2:06:57] the principles when we talked about not [2:06:59] universally serving lunch. Well, cuz [2:07:01] it's also part of the whole thing if of [2:07:04] if a kid feels weird about like, oh, I'm [2:07:06] the one taking a lunch home, why is [2:07:08] other kids on the bus if we have it be [2:07:11] >> I mean, I'm going to publicly out Dave [2:07:12] Ricks and he eats a whole bunch of the [2:07:14] school lunches in the office. [2:07:17] >> So, they do them at um exam times at the [2:07:20] high school and so there's like 20 bag [2:07:22] lunches or something in the office and I [2:07:24] Dave's in there picking out the [2:07:25] goldfish. They also have a ice cream [2:07:28] maker there that [2:07:29] >> we have frozen yogurt that we have also [2:07:31] not been invited to try yet. So, [2:07:33] >> I'm glad you brought that up, Alison. I [2:07:35] think that's a good point. We don't want [2:07:36] to make any kids feel uncomfortable [2:07:38] >> cuz I think if the kids are used to, [2:07:41] especially elementary kids, it's I mean, [2:07:43] >> it's a difference. [2:07:44] >> Yeah. I mean, 12:25 for elementary kids [2:07:48] not getting home till 1:00 potentially, [2:07:51] >> that's a long day, [2:07:52] >> but they'll have a snack, right? And as [2:07:54] a parent, you can send whatever you [2:07:56] think [2:07:57] >> isn't isn't the [2:08:00] school provided free lunch. [2:08:01] >> So, we did talk about potentially having [2:08:03] the school lunch be the provided snack [2:08:05] on those days for students so that [2:08:06] they're getting the the balanced meal. [2:08:09] >> Yeah. I' I'd like to I'd like it to be a a normalized thing rather than a [2:08:15] >> you have to opt in. Here's here's the [2:08:17] kids that might [2:08:20] >> How do we end up with a whole bunch of [2:08:21] trash bags on the side of this road? [2:08:24] >> We know who to ask that Mr. Rick. [2:08:27] >> Yeah. Then we know that that's not [2:08:28] working. [2:08:28] >> I think some of it has to do with what you're serving as [2:08:31] well. Um, you know, there's maybe not a [2:08:33] ton of interest in the sun butter [2:08:34] sandwich, but if we can come up with [2:08:36] some options that are [2:08:37] >> Can we not serve peanut butter? [2:08:39] >> No. [2:08:41] >> I just say if you talk about food, [2:08:43] there's going to be an issue because I [2:08:44] have not eaten dinner. So, NO MORE [2:08:47] MOVING ON. OKAY. [2:08:48] >> Katrina had a question. [2:08:49] >> I just had one quick question for the [2:08:50] North Penroke. Is that the early release [2:08:52] time for preschool as well? [2:08:54] >> Well, please preschool's an entirely [2:08:56] different. [2:08:57] >> Yeah. So, they don't get out at the same [2:08:59] time now. [2:09:00] >> So, it'll be different. [2:09:02] >> Okay. Am I getting an hour and 20 25 [2:09:05] minutes more on the half? [2:09:08] >> Yeah. Because these are the new people. [2:09:11] >> That would be helpful for my brain. [2:09:13] Absolutely. And then just and I know I [2:09:15] asked this one time, but I always [2:09:17] >> put the start time in the delay and [2:09:19] notification. [2:09:20] >> Yeah. No, I know because that's super [2:09:22] helpful. [2:09:22] >> So you all need to take it as a first [2:09:24] read. Okay. [2:09:25] >> So the only the only question I have on [2:09:27] this comment is I'll be honest with you, [2:09:28] I don't like these hours for the parent [2:09:31] teacher conferences. I think 1 to 6:00. [2:09:33] If you have, and I'm going to say [2:09:34] respectfully, a real job and you get out [2:09:36] of Boston at 5:00, there's no way in [2:09:38] hell you're getting here at 6:00 for a [2:09:39] conference. and I was the one that used [2:09:41] to attend most of those and I didn't get [2:09:43] most of my conferences till 7 or 7:30. [2:09:45] So I'd be interested. I wanted I'd like [2:09:47] to know what the attendance numbers are, [2:09:49] what the feedback is from parents [2:09:51] because I don't like this at all. [2:09:53] >> So the 6 and 6:30 have been our practice [2:09:55] now for the past four years and it is [2:09:56] spelled out in our collective bargaining [2:09:58] agreement that they can't be start later [2:10:00] than 6:30. Um, but we do offer families [2:10:03] the option, the first hour is reserved [2:10:05] for virtual conferences. And we have [2:10:06] seen, to your point, David, a lot of [2:10:08] people that can't possibly get from [2:10:10] their day job to, right, [2:10:11] >> North Pin Brook Elementary School for a [2:10:13] conference often offer to take it during [2:10:15] their lunch break or a break at work. [2:10:16] But, um, I've also asked and we have [2:10:19] been tracking attendance um, at [2:10:20] conferences for the past couple of years [2:10:22] because I think it's something that [2:10:23] we're overly interested in um, both from [2:10:26] a standpoint of parent and caregiver [2:10:28] participation as well as equity amongst [2:10:30] staff. Um it's very different if you're [2:10:32] a teacher that just has two conferences [2:10:33] over the 5 hour window versus 27. So [2:10:37] taking a look at that as well. So happy [2:10:38] to share back out about that too. [2:10:40] >> Nope. I appreciate. Okay. So we have to [2:10:42] take this as a first read. Do I get a [2:10:44] motion please? [2:10:44] >> So moved. [2:10:45] >> Second. [2:10:45] Uh all those in favor? [2:10:47] >> I opposed. Abstain. 50. Natalie. [2:10:52] >> Uh the next item in my packet is uh the [2:10:56] trip that Gwen spoke about. Um so this [2:10:58] current coming weekend March 20th and [2:11:00] 21st is the all state music festival in [2:11:04] Worcester at the DCU center. Generally [2:11:06] um a trip like this would not be an [2:11:08] overnight request. Um if you take a look [2:11:11] in the packet you'll see that the start [2:11:13] time on the Saturday is quite early. Um [2:11:15] and so given the fact that it was just [2:11:17] three students, a conversation was had [2:11:19] um with those three students and their [2:11:20] families and the desire to stay [2:11:23] overnight. Um the rules of the [2:11:25] organization are if we have students [2:11:27] staying, a chaperone must stay. So [2:11:29] that's why you're getting it in a field [2:11:30] trip format. [2:11:32] >> All right. Could I get a motion for the [2:11:34] overnight field trip high school musical [2:11:36] to the DCU center in Worcester? [2:11:38] >> So moved. Second. [2:11:39] >> All those in favor? [2:11:41] >> Opposed? Abstained. Natalie 5-0. [2:11:45] >> Next up is consideration for approval of [2:11:48] MIA middle level waiverss. Um, so this [2:11:50] is the waiver that we file with the [2:11:52] athletic association to allow eighth [2:11:53] graders to participate in some of our [2:11:56] sports. As Brian said, our spring [2:11:58] numbers are still kind of rolling at [2:12:00] this point. Um, we are in a pretty good [2:12:04] place with most of these. We have asked [2:12:06] for the past three years um for a waiver [2:12:08] for boys and girls lacrosse as well as [2:12:10] softball. Um, at this point, I think [2:12:13] Brian had uh the middle of last week [2:12:16] only 12 girls register for lac lacrosse, [2:12:18] 17 boys for boys lacrosse, and 12 um [2:12:22] students for softball. That number has [2:12:23] grown. He now has 22 for boys lacrosse, [2:12:26] 20 for girls lacrosse, and 14 for [2:12:29] softball. But he is still looking for [2:12:30] some flexibility with the waiver. As far [2:12:32] as boys tennis, um when we posted the [2:12:35] agenda, um there was only six students [2:12:38] registered for boys tennis. Um, you need [2:12:40] seven in order to have the singles and [2:12:44] the three singles and two doubles teams. [2:12:46] There are currently seven registered. [2:12:49] Um, but Brian would like a little bit of [2:12:50] flexibility if another student or two [2:12:52] doesn't come out in the next day or so [2:12:54] to to extend it to eighth graders. So, [2:12:56] that's the only new one. The boys and [2:12:58] girls lacrosse and softball have been [2:12:59] previous requests in years past. [2:13:01] >> So, would for softball would we be [2:13:03] looking at that the eighth graders being [2:13:05] on the varsity team? [2:13:06] >> Eighth graders can only play the lowest [2:13:07] level that you offer. So, they have to [2:13:09] be on the JV team, [2:13:10] >> but 14 is not enough to [2:13:12] >> He has both. [2:13:13] >> He's He would It would be fielding a JV [2:13:16] team [2:13:18] >> with all eighth graders. [2:13:19] >> No, there's there's some students that [2:13:21] could play both. [2:13:24] >> Okay. Because softball has nine players [2:13:27] on the field. [2:13:27] >> I understand. Okay. [2:13:28] >> I Googled it. So, I just dumped it up. [2:13:31] >> Well, sometimes 10, but it depends on [2:13:32] the age. [2:13:33] >> Because when Brian sent it to me, I [2:13:34] think he was tired of me asking how many [2:13:36] people play at a time. [2:13:36] >> Yeah. I don't know lacrosse and then for [2:13:38] tennis when that's it's seven you also [2:13:42] we don't technically have JV but we also [2:13:47] >> the so [2:13:48] >> so this this eighth graders can only [2:13:50] play on the lowest level you offer just [2:13:52] like girls hockey the eighth graders are [2:13:53] playing varsity girls hockey because [2:13:54] that's the only level we offer. [2:13:56] >> Okay. [2:13:56] >> Yeah. [2:13:56] >> So that's for lacrosse. [2:13:58] >> She was talking about tennis. Oh. Um [2:14:00] they would the boys and girls would be [2:14:02] playing JB lacrosse. We'd be having J [2:14:04] there's a JB team. I was Brian and I had [2:14:06] a lot of conversation about boys [2:14:07] lacrosse. I'm not comfortable with [2:14:08] eighth graders playing varsity lacrosse [2:14:10] because of this and it's not it's we [2:14:11] have a JV lacrosse team that would play. [2:14:13] >> I'm not even sure because it's such a [2:14:15] physical sport that even eighth grade [2:14:17] boys I mean there's so much of a [2:14:19] difference in [2:14:19] >> Yeah. I think it was three years ago [2:14:22] when we did the waiver first and you'll [2:14:23] remember there was quite a few um eighth [2:14:25] grade lacrosse families that came. [2:14:27] Obviously, safety is one of the [2:14:28] decisions that um one of the things that [2:14:31] comes into account in the decision of [2:14:33] the students that are invited to [2:14:34] participate and not size is part of [2:14:36] that. So, just not all eighth graders [2:14:38] that are interested in playing JV [2:14:40] lacrosse will get the opportunity to [2:14:41] play JV lacrosse. [2:14:42] >> Okay. [2:14:43] >> Safety is a driving factor. [2:14:45] >> All right. [2:14:46] >> And there's additional safety equipment [2:14:48] that they can also utilize as well um if [2:14:51] there are concerns. [2:14:53] >> Sure. [2:14:54] >> As with all sports, right? There's the [2:14:55] padding you can buy that goes [2:14:56] underneath. There's there's all kinds of [2:14:58] things. [2:14:58] >> Are we fully staffed with coaches? [2:15:00] >> Uh I think they're still looking for a [2:15:02] JV girls lacrosse coach um and a middle [2:15:06] school volleyball coach, I think is what [2:15:08] they're looking for. [2:15:09] >> Okay. If you know anybody, middle school [2:15:12] volleyball hasn't started yet, but [2:15:14] >> I will take a motion for the MIAA middle [2:15:18] level waiver for boys and girls lacrosse [2:15:19] softball and boys tennis. [2:15:21] >> So moved. Second. [2:15:23] >> Okay. First, I have a second. And all [2:15:24] those in favor? [2:15:25] >> I. [2:15:26] >> All those opposed. Anyone abstaining? 5 [2:15:29] nothing. Natalie. [2:15:30] >> Last thing is my contract. Um, so so [2:15:34] great to be evaluated in public and talk [2:15:36] about my contract in public. It's just [2:15:38] one of the great perks of this job. Um, [2:15:41] I have a contract that currently runs [2:15:42] through June 30th of 2029, but there's [2:15:45] no salary set for each year. So, the [2:15:47] purpose of this wording on this is to [2:15:49] set my salary for fiscal year 26. Yes, [2:15:52] we are in March of that that year. Um, [2:15:55] but we did we've had extensive [2:15:56] conversations um in executive session [2:15:58] and I think we are in a great place. Let [2:16:00] me first say that I am fortunate to work [2:16:03] here and to work with a group of school [2:16:04] committees that understand members that [2:16:06] understand the work and give us the [2:16:07] space to do the work. That is not the [2:16:09] case everywhere. Um, you know, we are a [2:16:11] lean leadership team, but we are very [2:16:14] appreciative of the support that we [2:16:15] receive. by you guys are always on those [2:16:17] nasty posts sticking up for us or if you [2:16:20] have a question call this person or [2:16:21] Allison was the first one today that [2:16:22] said all five schools have power when [2:16:24] somebody said what a horrible idea to [2:16:26] have school today. Um so I very [2:16:28] appreciative of that. Um you know as [2:16:31] with any contract negotiation I take a [2:16:33] look at kind of what I make what other [2:16:35] department heads in the towns make. But [2:16:37] in addition really looking at the market [2:16:38] for superintendent. Um I do think I [2:16:41] provided you guys with any any and all [2:16:43] backup that you had asked for. um and [2:16:45] you all did um you know come to an [2:16:47] agreement that was greater than what I [2:16:49] had asked for and so I am very [2:16:51] appreciative of you guys valuing my [2:16:53] position in my role here. Um my [2:16:57] current compensation package totals just [2:17:00] under 238,000. [2:17:02] Um and what you all have set for next [2:17:04] year is 265,000. So you all have to take [2:17:07] a motion and do whatever it is that you [2:17:09] do. [2:17:10] >> So moved. Second. [2:17:11] >> Well, you know what? I I want to Okay, [2:17:13] we have the first second. Um I I do want [2:17:15] to give some feedback on this and it's [2:17:17] been my pleasure for 9 years to be on [2:17:19] this committee and to be the chairman [2:17:20] this year and I think if there's anyone [2:17:22] listening out there in the um viewing [2:17:24] public that hasn't gone to bed at this [2:17:26] point, I'm very happy. [2:17:29] >> They're not used to feel like they're [2:17:30] not used to two and a half hour [2:17:31] meetings. [2:17:32] >> Shout out to Karen who's still here [2:17:34] >> to the studio audience. Thank you. We [2:17:37] appreciate it. [2:17:39] I think it's important to point out that [2:17:40] one, the superintendent runs the largest [2:17:42] department, you know, with inside the town of Peer by far. Um she [2:17:46] basically wears two hats as a [2:17:48] superintendent and the business manager. [2:17:50] And if you knew what it cost us to get a [2:17:51] superintendent and a business manager, [2:17:53] um that would be um far more than this [2:17:56] number would exceed. So to say you have [2:17:59] um earned this and put you uh I [2:18:01] hopefully like to think within your um [2:18:04] upper end of your competitive set or [2:18:06] your peers, whatever we care to say. So [2:18:08] I wholeheartedly endorse this contract. [2:18:10] Um I'm a big believer in it. And now I'm [2:18:13] happy to take a vote. Um we have a [2:18:15] first, we have a second. All those in [2:18:16] favor? [2:18:17] >> I. [2:18:17] >> Any opposed? No one abstains. Now it's 5 [2:18:20] nothing. Thank you, Erin. [2:18:22] >> Of course. [2:18:22] >> Yay. [2:18:24] >> Um next is subcommittee updates. These [2:18:26] are quick, I promise. Um, so budget [2:18:28] subcommittee met last week and this week [2:18:30] just to talk about um some of the [2:18:32] upcoming budget items, but we also um [2:18:33] went through a topic calendar. So in [2:18:35] your packet, you have a calendar of what [2:18:37] we believe to be the outstanding budget [2:18:40] items that need to be covered between [2:18:41] tonight's meeting and town meeting on [2:18:43] May 12th. Um you'll see there in red [2:18:46] that it is the recommendation of the [2:18:47] budget subcommittee that you add an [2:18:49] additional March meeting. Um I selected [2:18:52] the 24th and we talked about a little [2:18:53] bit it doesn't if the 24th isn't the [2:18:55] right day the 31st is also [2:18:59] >> an option as well um up to you all but [2:19:02] you can see that in addition to the [2:19:03] teaching and learning budgets there's a [2:19:05] fee discussion um we want to give a [2:19:07] vocational presentation the strategic [2:19:09] planning presentation um you know budget [2:19:12] subcommittee feels strongly about the [2:19:14] admin recommending recommended budget [2:19:16] being a standalone item one night for [2:19:18] just you all to talk about it before you [2:19:20] invite the select board and advisory for [2:19:22] a joint meeting. So, um looking at the [2:19:25] breadth of those topics and the meetings [2:19:26] that were currently on the calendar, um [2:19:29] the recommendation is to add an [2:19:30] additional day in March. The asterk [2:19:32] there with the fee discussion um budget [2:19:34] subcommittee met today at this point not [2:19:37] necessarily um proposing any additional [2:19:40] fees. Um, so it's possible that that [2:19:42] discussion could take just one night, [2:19:43] but understanding if there's um [2:19:45] additional information that's sought. It could go to the seventh as well as a [2:19:48] second night of that discussion. We [2:19:50] don't want you to be having discussion [2:19:52] and making decisions at the same time. [2:19:54] We want you to be able to think about [2:19:55] it. Um, you know, those the fee [2:19:57] discussions are are big ones. It's [2:19:59] >> it's a lot that we're asking of [2:20:00] families. So, um, I do have a meeting [2:20:04] that was scheduled on the 24th. I could [2:20:06] always move it or just not really I just [2:20:09] can't go to whatever it is. But um [2:20:12] depends on if people are available on [2:20:13] the 31st [2:20:16] >> because I'm just saying if we do the [2:20:17] 31st that's I mean we're already going [2:20:20] to do like three there's going to be [2:20:22] three meetings in a row no matter how we [2:20:23] do this. So four meetings in a row [2:20:26] whatever it is. But yeah losing the [2:20:28] February one kind of threw us off. And [2:20:30] the other thing we can if I can just [2:20:33] back up one second too is David, do you [2:20:35] think you can reach out to the [2:20:36] legislators to see if they can join us? [2:20:39] What did we talk about? [2:20:39] >> I think we talked about 4:14. So [2:20:41] >> 414 for that for the budget discussion. [2:20:44] So 4:14 at 6 p.m. I would assume. [2:20:49] >> Okay, let me get that on there. [2:20:50] >> So for the 24th, [2:20:54] which would be [2:20:56] from tonight? [2:20:56] >> Yeah. teaching and learning, student [2:20:58] services, and the fee discussion. Um, [2:21:02] Katrina, you [2:21:04] >> I'd prefer the 31st, but if like that [2:21:06] messes up things for other people, then [2:21:09] I can just not go to the event and I can [2:21:11] probably find other people to help with [2:21:13] the work event I have. [2:21:14] >> What about other people? [2:21:18] >> All these dates are good for me as of [2:21:20] right now. [2:21:21] >> I could do the 31st if we needed to. [2:21:23] That's not a problem. [2:21:25] Does it make a difference like in terms [2:21:27] of the the timeline for anything in [2:21:29] terms of folks on the budget? So, [2:21:31] >> no. Okay. [2:21:33] >> Sue, are you are you good with switching [2:21:36] the 24th to the 31st? [2:21:37] >> Yeah, I'm good with that. [2:21:38] >> Okay. [2:21:38] >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I just had an [2:21:41] event. [2:21:41] >> Does that work for you, Aaron? [2:21:42] >> Yeah, that's really fine. [2:21:43] >> Good. We're going to take the 24th out [2:21:44] and make that the 31st. [2:21:46] >> Yep. Okay. [2:21:46] >> Okay. [2:21:47] >> So, we get next week off. [2:21:48] >> Sure. [2:21:49] >> Oh, nice. [2:21:50] >> Really? But [2:21:52] >> and then the other [2:21:53] >> the other thing we talked about is the [2:21:54] meeting on the 28th, the joint meeting [2:21:56] with the select board and advisory. I [2:21:58] know that we generally have a 6:00 start [2:22:00] time. Those two boards have later start [2:22:01] times just taking into account um their [2:22:04] members. Um I think it would be a nice [2:22:07] gesture to offer a a later start time. I [2:22:09] know advisory meets at 6:30 and select [2:22:11] board generally meets at 7. Um because I [2:22:15] think last year like the reason I kind [2:22:17] of mentioned that is I think last year [2:22:18] we had other things on the agenda. So, [2:22:20] we started our meeting [2:22:22] >> and then I think we might have gone over [2:22:24] or late, whatever. But I think the idea [2:22:27] in my head is we either don't have other [2:22:29] stuff on that meeting, which probably [2:22:32] can't happen or doesn't happen, but have [2:22:34] it be [2:22:36] >> a like a 7:00 start time and if we do [2:22:38] need to meet, we start at 6 and then we [2:22:41] recess and come back at seven instead of [2:22:44] >> Yeah. Is everyone comfortable with them [2:22:46] with me offering them a seven o'clock [2:22:48] start time for the joint meeting? And [2:22:49] then as it gets closer, we'll decide if [2:22:50] you all need to meet before that. [2:22:52] >> Yes, sure. [2:22:52] >> Okay. [2:22:55] >> Got it. [2:22:57] >> And when [2:23:00] are we going to ask them tomorrow? [2:23:02] >> I'm going to ask them tomorrow. [2:23:03] >> Okay. cuz I'd like to have that like [2:23:05] kind of semi finalized so that if we [2:23:08] can't do that [2:23:11] >> I mean I I think it's yeah [2:23:13] >> it's it's on both of their radars. Um we [2:23:15] I've spoke about it when I went to [2:23:16] advisory the last time and Bill has [2:23:18] shared with the select board that [2:23:19] >> and for some reason it worked so well [2:23:21] for the past couple of years that the [2:23:22] interest is there to do it as well. The [2:23:24] other thing you all need to decide is on [2:23:25] 47 the plan was to give the vocational [2:23:27] presentation ahead of um the meeting. Is [2:23:30] a 5:30 start time okay for folks for [2:23:32] that and then we'll just do the im the [2:23:34] meeting immediately to follow. [2:23:35] >> Yes, definitely. [2:23:37] >> We don't want to do it as part of our [2:23:39] meeting at 6. I'm just questioning [2:23:42] >> you can we can I think at when we [2:23:44] originally started it was there was [2:23:46] other big things on that agenda. Um [2:23:49] >> I mean [2:23:49] >> strategic plan is a pretty big thing. [2:23:51] >> Yeah. Well and we're we are inviting the [2:23:53] 20some members. [2:23:55] >> I would leave it as a 5:30 and then have [2:23:57] your regular meeting start at 6. Would [2:23:58] it still be a public like we open a [2:24:01] meeting or would it we [2:24:02] >> Yep. [2:24:02] >> It's not Yeah. [2:24:03] >> Okay. So, it would be just this [2:24:06] >> just like when you do executive session [2:24:07] at the beginning of a meeting, you're [2:24:08] going to open it and then have the [2:24:09] regular meeting to follow. [2:24:12] >> Okay. So, it wouldn't just say like [2:24:14] school committee meeting starting at [2:24:16] 5:30. It would be two separate start [2:24:18] times. [2:24:18] >> I would post it. Yeah. on the same [2:24:20] agenda but two separate sometimes [2:24:21] because there are some people that are [2:24:22] just coming for the vocational um [2:24:25] >> and so [2:24:25] >> and then there are some people that will [2:24:26] be joining us just for the strategic [2:24:28] plan [2:24:29] >> and you would suspect that the vocation [2:24:31] will take 30 minutes [2:24:32] >> I think it would the the slides will [2:24:34] probably be 20 minutes and then allowing [2:24:36] 20 to 25 minutes for question and answer [2:24:38] or not um [2:24:39] >> well that's why I just worry about [2:24:40] putting a start time on strategic like a [2:24:42] six o'clock start time if we're possibly [2:24:45] >> could be an yeah we can I I was thinking [2:24:49] saying that it would start immediately [2:24:51] to follow but not before 6:15 so that [2:24:53] people can plan to get here for 6:15 [2:24:56] when we wouldn't be starting before [2:24:57] that. [2:24:57] >> Uhhuh. That makes sense. So [2:24:59] >> we are completely overthinking it for [2:25:01] the two people in the audience. What [2:25:02] time would you like to come? [2:25:07] » Oh my goodness. [2:25:08] >> Okay. Um [2:25:09] >> it wouldn't be [2:25:11] >> and and just so everybody's clear, this [2:25:12] does not include all of the agenda [2:25:14] items. This is just [2:25:15] >> this is just budget topics, right? We [2:25:16] have those the public hearing on school [2:25:18] choice. Um you all when you get to talk [2:25:20] future meeting dates and topics need to [2:25:22] talk about your MIA conversation and [2:25:23] where that falls here. These were just [2:25:24] budget related topics. That's what this [2:25:26] calendar is. Um speaking of budget, the [2:25:29] vocational regional planning committee [2:25:31] has not met since we last met, but I [2:25:33] will be attending the select board [2:25:34] meeting tomorrow evening in order to [2:25:36] potentially answer questions associated [2:25:38] with um the placement of the two [2:25:41] overhead questions on the ballot. Um I'm [2:25:43] not giving a presentation tomorrow [2:25:45] evening. I've shared um through Bill the [2:25:48] latest version of our slides. They were [2:25:50] provided to the select board ahead of [2:25:51] time. I'm only going to answer [2:25:53] questions. Um I've given the same [2:25:55] presentation eight or nine times. We [2:25:56] have another presentation scheduled for April 7th. So just there to answer [2:26:00] questions if there are questions. [2:26:03] Perfect. Um and then the last one is [2:26:05] policy sub. you have in your packet um [2:26:08] the second read of those series B [2:26:11] policies that we looked at the last time [2:26:12] I took the edit um that we all had [2:26:14] discussed about just adding the word [2:26:16] Peendrick to resident um in each [2:26:18] instance that it showed up in those [2:26:19] policies [2:26:22] to take them as a vote [2:26:23] >> you have to take them for second read [2:26:24] and approval [2:26:25] >> okay [2:26:25] >> you can take them all at once you don't [2:26:27] have to do three separate [2:26:28] >> All right if I could get a motion to [2:26:30] take consideration of second reading or [2:26:31] approval revised policy beb revised [2:26:35] policy B E D H in revised policy B E. [2:26:40] >> So moved. Second. [2:26:42] >> All those in favor? [2:26:43] >> I opposed abstain. [2:26:46] >> 5 nothing Natalie across the board. [2:26:50] >> Committee dates and topics. I think we [2:26:51] just covered. [2:26:52] >> Yep. So you usually do your school [2:26:53] choice hearing the same day that you do [2:26:55] your public budget hearing. So that [2:26:56] would be May 5th. Um it's up to you all. [2:26:59] I know at your last meeting you talked [2:27:02] about um discussing [2:27:06] a potential correspondence to the MIA or the topic in general. Um you just [2:27:11] need to let me know where where you want [2:27:12] to put that whether it's 331 47. I would [2:27:16] shy away from those two budget meetings [2:27:18] on 414 and 428. I think they should [2:27:20] solely be for budget. [2:27:22] >> Let's do a 331. We Yeah. [2:27:24] >> 331 for which one? The [2:27:25] >> the MA. Yeah, let's do that. That's [2:27:27] good. [2:27:27] >> Yeah. We don't want to delay that [2:27:28] anymore. Yeah. [2:27:30] >> Great. [2:27:34] » And what is it exactly that you want the [2:27:36] agenda item to say? Is it discussion of [2:27:38] potential correspondence to the MIA? [2:27:41] Okay. [2:27:41] >> And a and a vote [2:27:44] on that. [2:27:46] >> I'd imagine. [2:27:47] >> Yep. Discussion, potential vote, right? [2:27:50] >> Yep. Got it. I'll find the right words. [2:27:56] That's it. [2:27:59] Okay. There. Okay. I will take a motion [2:28:03] for adjournment. [2:28:04] >> So move. Second. [2:28:05] >> All those in favor? [2:28:06] >> I [2:28:07] >> opposed. Abstain. 50. Thank you very [2:28:11] much for your time, ladies and [2:28:12] gentlemen. To the viewing audience. [2:28:13] Thank you to the studio audience and to [2:28:15] the man behind the booth. [2:28:17] >> Thank you all.