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4:00 p.m. you please stand for the
invocation led by commissioner Burton

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followed by The Pledge by Mr gr
commissioner

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Grose bow let us pray Our God and
heavenly father as We Gather here

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tonight we ask you to watch over each
and every person here want you to watch

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over this board tonight give us wisdom
and guidance as we carry on the mission

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of the business of the people of Pender
County we also

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pray
tonight that you keep watch over this

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country we're going through some
tumultuous and trying times Lord we ask

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that you guide our
thoughts and as we go forward from this

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place be with each and every
one in your mighty name Jesus name amen

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amened I pled alance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all thank you if we have any
veterans if you would please remain

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standing to be

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recognized thank you

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all board members we have the uh agenda
you've had a chance to review it there

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is a couple of amendments to the
agenda uh yes and at this time I'd like

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to move to adopt the agenda or at this
time I'd like to move to remove items

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6.1 and
6.2 uh to be removed to next uh

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agenda I have a motion to remove 6.1 and
6.2 is there a second second have a

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second all those in favor raise your
right

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hand having passed I'd like to approve
the agenda with the exception of 6.1 and

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6.2 there a motion is there a second
second all in favor raise your right

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hand thank you board
members 5.1 public hearing regarding I

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guess I need to gel into public hearing
public hearing regarding law enforcement

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center bond insurance Miss

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blue good evening um I'm Meg blue Pender
County finance director I just wanted to

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introduce the public hearing for the law
enforcement center Bond

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issuance um it was noticed in the paper
and has been noticed um I don't know if

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we have the sign up sheet anywhere okay
great I will get out of the way then

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okay the uh first individual that we
have is Sheriff Alan Cutler from the

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Pender County Sheriff's Office

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good afternoon Mr chairman board members
thank you for having me I just wanted to

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to get up and speak on this just for
just for a minute I won't take long I

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wanted to thank everyone who's worked so
hard on this project so far uh getting

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us to do this point uh the current
conditions of our facility now is is

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really making it hard to maintain state
inspection requirements uh we're

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constantly having to perform maintenance
on the buildings uh it puts a strain on

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County maintenance and uh we do
apologize for that Mr Troy and all of

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you but uh we do have certain
requirements that we have to meet uh

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this funding will allow us to provide
for the needs and the growth of the

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County uh it will ensure the safety of
of our Detention officers and the

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inmates

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um I appreciate you allowing me to come
and speak I also wanted to

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uh give give recognition and thanks to
uh current representative Smith who is

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the former Sheriff this project started
many years ago or at least discussion

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about it in some preliminaries uh he's
worked very hard on that and through

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through legislative action actually had
the land donated that this building is

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proposed to go on so wanted to give him
recognition and thanks for that but I

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thank you for your consideration and I
thank you for hearing me

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today thank you sir thank you the next
speaker is Ed Scott from 65n Road

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Ro my name is Ed Scott I live in Swan
Plantation in Rocky Point I have just

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two simple questions uh number one I'm
just going to increase my real estate

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taxes
and number two there are at least seven

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police departments within Pender County
they being in Atkinson bergall Surf City

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um St Helen
topsul and you might consider Wallace

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county line runs through it Wallace is
more in the Willington standard

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metropolitan area than the other side so
it might be counted is there any thought

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being given to making the new law enfor
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the operations of the police forces
throughout the county just those two

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questions first off will it increase my
real estate

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taxes thank you sir we don't respond to
questions we'll have we'll take notes

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someone will contact you I can't
answer that's wonder that question at

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this time but I don't think so I think
we're in good

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she you don't respond to questions no
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not but we can tell you

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fantastic that is all that signed up for
the public

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hearing we are now out of the public
hearing for the

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bond back to the agenda

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6.3 North Carolina ACC youth Summit
presentation

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Spencer okay good afternoon I just want
to introduce Alex Grover he is a a

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lifetime 4H member he will be attending
the North Carolina Association of County

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Commissioners annual conference this
year so he would like to um do his uh

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requirement of speaking to the County
Commissioners and we also need a picture

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at the end

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so good

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afternoon good afternoon okay there we
go my name is Alex Grover as Mr JY just

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said I'm here to talk about my 4
experience experiences I've been in 4

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for nearly 11 years
now I have done a great number of things

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through 4 that I I probably wouldn't
have done anywhere

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else it all started when I was about 6
years old and I had went to Summer fund

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days it's like stem activities and field
trips I've also attended summer camp at

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two to three 4 summer camps I want to
attend the third one in a few weeks to

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be for a with oh shoot I'm going to be a
leader in training in

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L I think I've lost skills to pass on
this is why I wanted to be an L in the

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first place
more recently I'm a part of pendrick

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County for team Council in team Council
we have the opportunity to meet new

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people and schedule our service projects
that we do sometimes our most recent one

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was with the little library that we
built just over there by the extension

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building and every year for team have
the opportunity to go to for congress at

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Congress we have we learn how that our
state is run and last a couple years ago

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had to opportunity to beat
representative Carson Smith where we

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discussed local
issues and I look forward to attending

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youth Voice next month and learning more
about our local government thank you for

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letting me represent Pender
County well done thank

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you so we some of us will see you there

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yeah some of us will see you there come
up and take your picture

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yeah of we'll stand behind you best we
can oh we can come

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around we can go around there whichever
easy go around there Mr M this is a

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start of an illustrious career we need
to do it right that's right

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it's

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hard congratulations

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we are now public comment yes sir
chairman we have uh four individuals

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signed up for public comment tonight the
first is Clarence E and there is not an

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address listed
so as a speaker comes forward I have

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this public comment uh message I need to
read speakers will be acknowledged by

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the board of commiss board chair person
in the order in which the names appear

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on the sheet speaker shall address the
board from the podium and begin comments

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by stating name and address speakers
shall be courteous and respectful in

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their remarks and shall refrain from
personal attacks and the use of

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profanity and discussion of
personnel or other matters deemed

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confidential by law and you have 3
minutes

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thank you yes sir my name is Clarence
leelan Eaton give a name friends call me

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Captain Clark past 40 plus
years thank y' all for taking your time

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to listen to my little problem I have I
brought a couple of friends with me if

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you'd raise your hands to little show of
support right there to people that

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Believe in Us my wife and I it's my wife
over there in the red we've been married

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for 19th of this month will be um
52 years you started forgot didn't you

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almost missed

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up and uh we moved up here from Florida
I was raised right here in Pender County

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started school over here burgo miss
Taylor was my first grade teacher cute

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little thing she had a little ruler
she'd Spanky with but anyhow uh we moved

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up here we got a piece of property back
on our family family land to Ramsey land

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out on Highway 53 o Ramsey
property I'm a little

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nervous and I'm reading and uh we got a
citation for um that darn it Citation

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for
U because we live in a camper they call

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it a camper I call it home we live in an
RV we brought it up from Florida with us

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put it on our property out there we've
been living there for 4 years we had no

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problem with none of our neighbors would
get along with all of our people uh I

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think a lot of all of our neighbors that
came in and supported us today and uh

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they're neighbors we get along we do
things for one another and they cannot

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believe this law has been on the books
since

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1988 that no one can live in an RV in
Pender County since

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19 no 2016 that first flood come through
first big flood in the century come

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through that should have been took off
the books give people their freedom

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their life back 2018 come by God painted
some ugly on this country people had to

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live wherever they could live some of
them was lucky enough to have an RV to

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live in some wasn't they had to live in
motels and

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whatever but uh that law needs to be
looked at really hard it might have been

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good back in 1988 I don't know about
that but today we live in an RV I got a

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citation for for living in it I didn't
know I was breaking the law and now I'm

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a criminal I'm a criminal I'm 79 years
old 78 years old my wife will be she's

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old
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too and
uh I don't I just don't have a lot more

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to to say have I passed my time yet you
got a few seconds okay um I wish y'all

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would give it a a lot of thought about
helping us I've spoke to a couple of

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people and they've um
all I get I get a lot of I I understand

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I understand I understand well they
don't really understand we're old and we

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look our tent days are over with now
we've had some tent days and enjoyed

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them but I will not enjoy them now and I
was told I could live in a tent on my

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property but I couldn't live in my they
call it RV in my home air conditioned

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all my medicines are in there all of our
medicines it has to be kept at a certain

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temperature but I could live in a 10 out
there in the yard don't make a lot of

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sense to me and in closing I'd like to
thank y'all for listening to me I'd like

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to thank my friends and neighbors for
coming and supporting

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me all right thank you sir good friends
good friends

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and have have y'all rather me would
y'all feel more comfortable I'm sorry go

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ahead did they get do his address on
there yes it's actually it's

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805 if if I got just a second
what brought this about was to save $72

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a year $72 don't sound like nothing used
to not be nothing to me but it is now so

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I asked the mail carrier what would it
take for me to put a mail get a mailbox

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get my address my out there where we
live at just put a mailbox up there put

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your address on you get your mail well I
got a a thing in the mail my address is

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not recognized 805 old Ramsey Road is
not a recognized address address well

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it's been I've recognized address for 20
years give or take a day or

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to this m go anyway that's the address
we used and I didn't understand I went

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there to help them under get help me
understand why I needed to go to the

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Pender County Board planning
department to get my address it's not a

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recognized address they couldn't they
didn't explain it to me they said

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something about the emergency thing okay
okay well unfortunately I had to call

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the 911 for my wife she had no trouble
they had no trouble finding our place

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the emergency people no trouble finding
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Road later on I have understood that
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changed changed up here because of the
uh emergency systems that's

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out and I think I'm still going to need
a 911 uh

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emergency thing for some kind of address
for where we live at out there and uh so

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my ignorance not stupidity but ignorance
of the way things are done now with that

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system I didn't understand it and I
apologize to the world for

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it that's all I got thank you sir to say
I went to this house the other day and I

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observe what's going on so I really um
hope something we can help these guys

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out with I mean get to the point they
can't afford a house um they have a your

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time it's put in it's working and
so we's see what we can do thank you we

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have a beautiful home thank

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you you're blessed with good friends too
yes yes yes thank you good friend all

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right the next speaker is Wanda Eaton at
805 old

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Ram okay right all right the next
speaker then is Rob Gillian at 149 East

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Bailey

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Lane look like another picture

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is there one more
she she's a sister

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oh we got the family
here uh I would like to say thank you um

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to for allowing us to speak today first
off I would like to say thanks for the

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partnership with Pender County Parks and
Rec uh the job that Zach and his team

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does for us at kuanana Park has helped
us flourish and grow as a league uh when

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I started help running this league in
2019 we were about 68 girls we have

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grown it up to 167 girls this year um
this is the first time ever in the topso

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girls softball um history that we are
aware of that this is the first time

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we've been able to make it to the World
Series uh we're very proud of these

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girls for the
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effort we're very proud for the effort
that theyve put in all the hard work I

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have been coaching majority of these
girls since

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2019 uh just to see where they've grown
and where they've come from um not even

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including that but just the character
that they have uh not only did we get

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invited to the World Series they also
won the state sportsmanship award which

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is one of the highest Awards you can get
in Dixie Softball for the entire state

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for our entire age group as well
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I will also say with that we did have
two other age groups win the

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sportsmanship award um in U and 10U
during the districts that's something

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that we're very proud of and that we
push that we want to be a representation

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of what this community is um and we
really thank you for listening to us

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today and all the um Partnerships that
we've had with Pender County Parks and R

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you know the only thing that I ask is if
you have any resources or any help that

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you can provide for these girls as we go
down to East waa Louisiana which is

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Monroe Louisiana um we would greatly
appreciate it um you know not only did

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we just spend 5 days in Belmont North
Carolina now we have to travel down to

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East waa and spend another about week
down there so any anything that you

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could help and provide and um just be a
partner with us we greatly appreciate it

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and we look to continue to grow our
league and flourish at ku's Park thank

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y'all thank
[Applause]

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you so I do have one quick question or
one quick comment or couple quick

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comments I see coach Jay's back here
coach Jay was at Harrington was there

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when I was the the leader of that
organization way back when my daughter

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is getting married now it's been that
long ago um so it's come a long way it's

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great to see the girls we went to the
first state at that time as a 8U team um

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no 10U team with my daughter and that's
amazing to see that going to the World

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Series congratulations which which one
are you doing yall doing xplay or y'all

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doing traditional traditional tradition
traditional cool deal that's good to see

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can we get a a picture
um congratulations ladies that's

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awesome very proud of

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stand stand back here behind you I saw a
couple other little girls back there

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with the uniforms on
they sisters

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oh they get to go have fun

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and congratulations again good luck good

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luck Mr manager do you have their
contact coach's contact

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information he's got your number just
just real quick on the the follow along

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with that bergall um Dixie Youth also
has a team that's going to participate

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in the World Series in Leiana and they
were supposed to be here tonight but

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their coach had um a heat heat
exhaustion I think they said so they're

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not they're not making it tonight to be
recognized but so burgal Dixie Youth has

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a team going and topsel Dixie Youth has
team well that's pretty impressive for

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the
county is that there's one more speaker

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chairman it is Shane fley 265 Riverview

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Drive hello uh I've been invited here by
Clark who I've known for the past two

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years I'm a PA resident and I bought
property on a Riverview Drive and when

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he brought up the the topic of RV I've
actually gone through that too I I

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purchased land with a with a gift house
that was flooded so I've been working on

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that the past two years and uh
originally uh I wanted to get an RV and

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put it on the property and I was told
you're not allowed to have power you're

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not allowed to have an RV pretty much
the same thing so I just wanted to uh

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come show my support for Clark and also
I would like to move down here and you

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know that become my residence but uh
getting a service Pole or getting

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electric or getting anything done has
been I would say tremendously difficult

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from Pennsylvania coming down here just
to Pender County I've looked in Oslo

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I've looked you know other states um but
again I'd like to show my support for

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Clark and if you if you could
re-evaluate that whole RV thing for

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someone like me that lives lives out of
state and works out of state and wants

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to move down here uh I do have nice
property 4 Acres I'm working on the

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house I was told I could clean uh which
I have been and got the house but I I

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don't have power I don't have water uh
so if you could look into that I think

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it needs to be it's time for it to be
re-evaluated and I understand the whole

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uh with Florence with the the flooding
and seeing the whole County underwater

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with is just incredible to me I live in
wsar so I'm actually in a flood zone so

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I go from one flood zone to to the next
and I've I've never been flooded yet but

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for from an outof State perspective I
would like the opportunity to bring an

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RV and place it on the property uh not
and not trash it up you know the

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property but just have a work site thank
you for your time thank you thank you

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that concludes public
comment moving along to consent agenda

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board members youve had a chance to
review the consent agenda is there a

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motion to approve the consent agenda
motion to approve have a motion is there

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a second second all those in favor raise
your right

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hand thank you sir thank you Captain
Clark

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just give a second to clear the room
then we'll start

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back 9.1 approval of resolution
requesting assistance to declare a

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disaster declaration for the farmers
impacted by the

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2024
drought like

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good afternoon Commissioners I'm Mark
sites I'm the county Cooperative

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Extension director um the resolution
before you is mainly to recognize the

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fact that this has been one of the worst
drought years that we've seen in eastern

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North Carolina um I've lived here 20
years and

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and we've had other Dr but I think the
the main problem with this one is it

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started earlier than it normally would
hit us our corn crop is um Statewide our

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state extension corn specialist is
estimating we might see a state average

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yield of 60 bushs to the acre which is
probably 120 bushel below what our

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potential what our average was last
year um the cost of production just to

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break even for most Farmers is somewhere
in the neighborhood of 150 to 160 buels

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to the
acre the um the damage from the drought

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in our corn crop is
severe um the rain that we got last week

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will help our
soybeans it'll help with a a little bit

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with our
pasture um and our hay crops later this

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summer and fall if we keep getting rain
um

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but you know we got rain Thursday and
Friday last week or Wednesday Thursday

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Friday and now we we're in our second
day of almost 100° heat that is supposed

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to be on top of us and all that water
that we just got is just

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disappearing um there are fields that
I've been in that even with the rain

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um you almost can't get a shovel in the
ground the subsoils are so dry it's like

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concrete
and so this declaration basically is a

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request to the governor to try to speed
up the process of getting a disaster

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declared um other counties are have
asked me for a copy of this resolution

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to for their Commissioners to um go
forward with the same kind of

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Declaration I don't know personally all
the details of of the financial side of

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what a death disaster declaration
will um provide in terms of relief for

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Farmers but as you all know the federal
government does not work quickly and so

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if we can get the process started now
versus September October

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November um then at least we're two or
three months ahead of the game and I

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have a question if you have crop
insurance does that cover

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drought crop insurance will cover a
portion of the losses and again I don't

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know the real details of of how you know
what a disaster declaration will provide

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in terms of relief funding for
farms in addition to the crop insurance

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I I I don't know all those details but
um if there's any assistance that could

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be made or given to Farmers in North
Carolina um in addition to crop

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insurance then that process just needs
to get started and that's pretty much

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what this declaration is asking
for so I listen to the Southern Farm

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Network every morning I think it is when
I go on my way to work and there's so

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start to gain momentum Statewide and not
in South Carolina

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also try to have these resolutions and
declarations made to try to start

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getting some relief ahead of time as you
said they were saying on there you know

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this is early this is early to be
calling for it it's usually after a

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storm or at the end of the crop season
when when things turn out so bad but

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they can predict that the the crops
start will be there now because there's

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no rain well and and as if you look at
the rainfall pattern from last week the

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this burga Corridor bergar to Wallace
got a pretty good amount of rain we got

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four four to seven or maybe 8 inches of
rain the coastal side of the county got

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less than an inch the Atkinson side of
the county got less than an inch so you

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know we're not out of this drought yet
and and when we have 100 plus degree

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heat indexes you know I I've been
telling people you equate it to you and

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I having to live outdoors in a tent 24
hours a day in these kind of

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temperatures our crops are out there 24
hours a day they're stressed they're

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really struggling to try to stay alive
they're not putting the energy in that

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they normally would do to produce seed
and to produce kernels um and the hay

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crop has been dormant I've talked to
some people that make hay they haven't

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even gotten a second cutting of hay off
this year they got an A first cutting in

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May and the grass just went dormant just
it's not growing so there's people that

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are feeding cattle hay to right now
normally we wouldn't be feeding hay

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until December January February yeah I'm
supplementing my hes through the summer

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which I've never had to do before so I
have a question is there any reason that

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you have specified soybean and corn
farms in the county would we be limiting

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our request for assistance for the soy
beans and corn crop or their truck crops

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and and other types of produce uh and
farm production that could be involved

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in and would we not be better SU to just
to pull out soybeans and corn yeah

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that's that's probably correct we should
probably broaden that request because

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our blueberry Growers have been having
to

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irrigate which basically sets the plant
up for next year's crop without water

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they're those plants are not setting
buds they're not setting flower leaf

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tissue they're just not thriving so yeah
there's other crops that will be

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affected by this as well

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I guess when I when I wrote this corn
and soybeans was just stuck in my

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head on your mind right now um so with
that I would like to make a motion that

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we approve uh this resolution requesting
a declaration for disaster for Farmers

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impacted by drought in 2024 growing
season um with the caveat that we would

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exclude uh specific it of soybeans and
corn and related to all all crops that

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are impacted in this growing
season second have a motion a second all

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those in favor raise your right
hand thank you thank you for bringing

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that that's thank

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you 89.2 accept North Carolina emergency
management capacity building competitive

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Grant
Mr Batson good afternoon chairman and

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fellow board members pter County
Emergency manager requesting the board

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to accept the grant the cbcg grant
budget amendment and PO for Company

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Wrench in early 2024 pend County
Emergency Management staff applied for

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the North Carolina emergency
management capability building

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competitive grant program the full grant
for the FY 24e was funding with $11.92

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five million with a cap of 200,000 Per
County to be for this grant program the

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counties must have a population of
230,000 or fewer based on the 2021

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certified County population estimates
from the state the grant for Pender

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County Emergency Management was 1ou or

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$127,600 lbs and other palletized items
perer County was one of 19 counties

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awarded the CBC 2024 grants the
equipment is on site and ready for

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pickup and will be ready to be used
prior to the peak of Hurricane Season

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the only cost to the county is the tags
for the trailer which we will cover in

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the current budget so we're requesting
for this cbcg grant to be accepted the

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budget amendment and a PO to Company
Wrench out of Smithville North Carolina

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so we got to pay for the tag we got to
pay for the tags on the trailer but the

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trailer in the fort wol will be ours and
we can use it as needed to help all

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County entities and other agencies
what's the difference between a forklift

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and a skitter a skitter is a to my
knowledge it's the use for land clearing

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or a skid steer is the little track
machine like they use in a parking lot

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but this is the
4x4 all terrain that we use in a parking

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lot we can use in a building and some of
the problems we've had currently is the

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EM Port LIF is only used on concrete or
asphalt and the rocks will tend to get

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stuck in this will be used to move our
palletized equipment during storms or

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unload and load tractor trailers when
it's not in use can other departments

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use it other County entities can use it
and I've worked I've talked to Troy and

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the guys at facility to partner with
them and work together to use it for

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other County needs during non- disaster
times as well as other counties across

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the state since it was state
funded outstanding outstanding work Mr

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Batson especially on finding a grant
that's no strings attached Grant that's

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great that's
usual Mr M you had something I I'm Mak a

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motion I made a motion to approve it
motions there and a second all in favor

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raise your right hand thank you Tommy
thank

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you n.3 approval the HUD requested
Housing Opportunity through

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modernization Act of 2016 admin plan
wow

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L good evening Commissioners my name
name is suava I'm the Pender County

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Housing director and today I'm
requesting approval of our new admin

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plan which is the Housing Opportunity
through modernization act um we did not

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put one in front of you because it's 365
pages long we do have we have so there's

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one at the County's manager if um office
if you want to go ahead and review it

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and we will also have one in our
department

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also and ours has not been updated since

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2016 is there any question board members
Lexi had sent out a notice last week

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that she had it
available motion approved a motion to

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approve is there a
second a second all those a favor raise

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your right hand thank you thank

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you approval of updated Pender County
procurement policy effective July 15

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2024

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good afternoon
again um this is the County's

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procurement policy which applies to all
County departments including um

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utilities and it basically governs how
we are permitted to procure anything

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funded with federal state or local funds
um there are differences in the

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requirements based on where the original
money comes from

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um I will say that if there's even a
dollar of federal or state funding that

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all their rules apply to every dollar
that's part of the project or the

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contract um there's not a lot of
substantial change to this policy it's

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it's very much like our previous policy
it puts some things in writing that

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maybe we just were doing as a best
practice um the the biggest change is it

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does give a little more authority to the
county manager to approve things that

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the board has already approved so it
will eliminate some of the we just did

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this in budget now we got to do this all
over again we just approved this

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contract last year let's get it approved
again um he would have the authority to

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approve those on behalf of the board as
long as they are inconsistent with what

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the board originally
approved um and terminate contracts as

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well um trying to think of the other
major things that it does um it

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streamlines some of the
um threshold the different thresholds as

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to be more consistent with federal and
state previously our policy was a lot

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more restrictive than federal or state
um this gets it a little closer to being

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00:39:18,319 --> 00:39:26,640
consistent with
those um and then it also talks about

426
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:31,400
change orders and how those will um be
processed which we already do change

427
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:35,800
orders it just puts the process kind of
on

428
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:41,920
paper um I believe I emailed this out a
couple of weeks ago uh if you have any

429
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:47,119
questions I'm happy to answer them um
but we're we're pretty excited about it

430
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:50,520
um we've worked really hard on it and um
we would appreciate you approving it is

431
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:55,359
there any questions Miss blue emailed
this week or two ago it was all the

432
00:39:52,720 --> 00:40:00,160
changes were in pretty green highlights
they were very easy to see um is there

433
00:39:58,839 --> 00:40:04,520
any questions or comments if not is
there a motion motion to approve I have

434
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,920
a motion to approve is there a second
second have a motion to Second all those

435
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:14,440
in favor raise your right
hand thank you very much anything to

436
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:19,480
streamline the process thank you Miss BL
yes and she's going to stay right there

437
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:25,920
for a while I am approval on the law
enforcement center project

438
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:33,760
authorization yes so 9.5 is uh 9.5 and
9.6 go together um and I will not take

439
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:38,640
full credit for this um Mr Bob Jessup
with uh Sanford holshouser is in the

440
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:45,200
audience and he is happy to answer any
of the legal technical questions that

441
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:49,040
you may have um basically 9.5 approves a
resolution supporting the application to

442
00:40:46,839 --> 00:40:52,160
the local government commission for the
financing agreement for the law

443
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:57,839
enforcement
center um we have we're in the process

444
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:02,880
of working with the LGC to get that on
their next agenda and

445
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:08,160
9.6 obviously you probably approve them
separately but 9.6 basically approves

446
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:14,400
the documents um they're in draft form
here but um it approves the documents

447
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,400
and the um terms of the

448
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,839
financing is there any can I address the
questions that came up a little earlier

449
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:27,480
in the public hearing you thought the
tax the tax issue or the um I can

450
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:32,839
attempt at both of them but I'll go the
tax one first because I know they answer

451
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:40,760
to that one um
the repayment of The Debt Service for

452
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:46,800
this financing has already been included
in our current tax rate so there will be

453
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:51,520
no tax rate increase based on the
approval of this

454
00:41:49,319 --> 00:41:57,400
financing we know we interest right we
going to be able to get we're working on

455
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:00,480
that um right now time that's right
we're working on locking that and we'll

456
00:41:58,839 --> 00:42:03,760
have I I should have the answer to you
by the next

457
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:08,000
meeting um I just don't want to speak
out of turn and not I just want to say U

458
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:14,520
I know it's a really need this building
and all my concern is protected our our

459
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:18,720
credit rating for the county doua I know
we said we were we were covered on that

460
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:25,280
but uh down the road I know we just keep
adding stuff to it so

461
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:29,359
um anyway I know right now this is all
I'm be with this that's about

462
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:36,160
overloading it down everything else down
like overloading a credit

463
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:39,839
card I understand um as far as the
regionalization of using the law

464
00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:47,440
enforcement center
for the entire County purposes it will

465
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:52,160
house the entire County's uh 911 system
um dispatch and that that will

466
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:57,920
communicate with every
agency law

467
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:04,160
police EMS fire
um all the above um and it will have

468
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:10,119
some
Regional applications and agencies

469
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:16,119
associated with it but as far as like
housing the Surf City fire or um excuse

470
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:22,040
me police department that's not really
logistically going to work um but but we

471
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:27,920
are we have an the Sheriff's Office can
correct me if I'm wrong but there are

472
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:32,599
some thoughts about as
as Consolidated as we can get being

473
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:36,800
efficient with what we're doing for sure
and hopefully some other counties will

474
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:42,040
like we doing now we pay other anel Lo
some other counties to keep some of

475
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:46,200
mar um inm and so they could we could
make money off that I guess you know

476
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:51,119
people coming in to pay we do have some
of our inmates out of County yes you're

477
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:56,559
correct um and that would alleviate some
of that as well you're you're correct M

478
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:01,680
do you have any question or or any idea
of like the last couple of

479
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:06,800
years how much we've
spent as a County Housing inmates

480
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:13,079
outside of the
cam I do um I would say probably about

481
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:19,040
four or five years ago it was in the
realm of $750,000 a year talking about

482
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:25,839
after Co after Co start before Co before
Co it was okay after Co um Co

483
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:31,319
drastically reduced that um because they
weren't taking they weren't allowing it

484
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:36,000
um and as far as the numbers they can
they can they may speak to that better

485
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:43,800
than I can but um as far as the dollars
it's been between

486
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:51,280
150,000 to 100,000 a
year thank you as are Ballpark don't

487
00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:55,960
hold me to exact numbers but last time I
checked well hopefully with a new jail

488
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:59,040
and a new law enforcement center we can
turn the tide and start housing some

489
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:03,200
federal inmates and some other County
inmates and start making a little

490
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:07,680
revenue for our County I I believe that
um the sheriff's office has shared with

491
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,880
the um folks the last time we had this
conversation that that would be a

492
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:15,280
possibility to be part of that federal
inmate housing be

493
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:24,079
great any other questions or comments on
either 9.5 or

494
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:33,800
9.6 if not is there motion to approve
9.5 I make a motion to approve 9.5 have

495
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,800
a motion is there a
second

496
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,119
second motion to Second all those in
favor raise your right

497
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:53,400
hand just point of clarification if I
may um we are doing an inst installment

498
00:45:50,160 --> 00:46:00,599
financing in addition to some bonding
can you briefly very briefly go over the

499
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:08,240
financing on this project sure um it is
limited obligation bonds which will be

500
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:13,720
backed in collateral by the law
enforcement center itself um so a

501
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:18,960
general obligation Bond would be backed
by

502
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:24,640
the taxing power of the county um but
this will be backed by the actual law

503
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:31,640
enforcement center itself um we are it
it will sell Bonds in the Capital

504
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:37,119
markets it will be 20 years um we're
still working on the interest rate but

505
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:46,280
um you know those are those fluctuate
until you lock them in um um Mr chair to

506
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:53,319
to commissioner McCoy's point with
regards um Bond could we have a word

507
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:58,880
from our a bond representative as to
that issue and how we're standing on a

508
00:46:55,720 --> 00:47:08,480
bond rating with the County
if if he's prepared to do so would like

509
00:47:03,319 --> 00:47:14,160
to Mr Jess want to do that Mr Mr Jessup
oh and um sorry we also have Ben Wilson

510
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:21,200
with Davenport here with us um so we
have the legal and the financial folks

511
00:47:17,319 --> 00:47:27,559
um with us today and if you want to take
it you're Happ I'm happy to throw that

512
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:32,040
one to you thank you would you mind
repeating the question it was a little

513
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:37,440
bit hard to hear back there the the bond
process and how uh what our bond what

514
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:43,480
our County Bond rating is yes and how
this project will affect uh if any our

515
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:48,319
bond rating right so as far as the bond
rating goes we had conversations with

516
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:53,160
the rating agencies about actually two
weeks ago today um they are working

517
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,559
through their analysis and we should get
results from them within the next week

518
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:03,119
or so um we don't expect your bond
ratings to change and really this Bond

519
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:07,680
issuance the debt that is issued by the
county is only a small piece of the

520
00:48:05,319 --> 00:48:13,280
entire puzzle that they put together to
determine what your rating is and they

521
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:17,319
understand that as an expanding County
you're going to have Capital needs and

522
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:23,640
they recognize that you all have been
planning for this for the past several

523
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:29,160
years um so the issuance of this these
new bonds is not a concern really from

524
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,240
the credit pers perspective um and we we
expect that those ratings will at least

525
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:39,079
be at the level that they are currently
what is our rating is a double A so you

526
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:46,119
start the highest is Triple A and then
there's and and that rating will give us

527
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:50,040
favorable uh terms yes ma'am that's the
highest possible rating is AAA and you

528
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:54,960
are just below that in the double A
Range if account have a AAA I think you

529
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:59,520
know yeah what he said it's very it's
very difficult to get a AAA r good yeah

530
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,720
and they again they take into account a
lot of different things economics the

531
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:09,400
debt you all have your finances
everything so so there's a lot that goes

532
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:14,040
into that okay great thank you thank
you yes and one of the one of the larger

533
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,960
things which is go speaks to your
concern commissioner McCoy that they

534
00:49:15,799 --> 00:49:23,920
consider in that rating is one thing
that we can't change which is our

535
00:49:19,319 --> 00:49:27,480
location next to the coast um it it's it
inherently is just a risk that we have

536
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,839
to
um contend with but we do plan

537
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:37,720
accordingly and they appreciate
that so thank you for your concern

538
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:37,720
because that's and thank

539
00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:46,520
you sure moving to
9.6 is there any

540
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:50,160
questions 9.6 is not is there a motion
to

541
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:54,760
approve make a motion to approve is
there a

542
00:49:51,799 --> 00:49:58,240
second I'll second all those in favor
raise your right hand

543
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,720
9.7 approval of contract and purchase
order to Daniels and Daniels for

544
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:11,799
construction of the law enforcement
center

545
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:17,720
project so um Mosley Architects is our
architect that we awarded our um design

546
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:23,280
contract to some time
ago um they have been working on putting

547
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:27,440
this bid out for the construction
portion of this project this is a design

548
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:34,040
bid build
um this project the the bid tab is

549
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:41,000
included and Daniels and Daniels is um
the the pro or

550
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:48,000
recommended vendor um based on their
proposal um and so our request is that

551
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:53,839
you would approve the contract to be
awarded to Daniels and Daniels um the

552
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,839
purchase order to go along with

553
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:02,359
it we have a motion
I mean do I have a motion to approve 9.8

554
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:05,240
motion to approve is there a second
second all those in favor raise your

555
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:12,359
right
hand that was 9.7 sorry

556
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:17,599
Lex I need to do that again I'm up with
speed

557
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:21,400
we all right sorry about that motion to
approve

558
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:26,200
9.7 is there a second second all those
in favor raise

559
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:30,200
your now we're at 9.8 approval of budget
amendment to the entire law enforcement

560
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:37,880
center
project yes so this budget amendment

561
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:43,440
although it looks complicated is um
simply to budget for the entire project

562
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:51,200
design and
construction and repay the county back

563
00:51:46,839 --> 00:51:55,960
the portions that were upfront during
the design base of this project so

564
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:58,520
that's why you see the transfer back to
the general fund

565
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:08,160
and it's based on all of the information
previously approved so what we've

566
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,680
already spent can be capitalized back
into the debt on the project that is

567
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:18,440
correct
okay is there a motion to approve 9.8

568
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,680
motion approved is there a
second I'll second I in favor raise your

569
00:52:21,319 --> 00:52:28,119
right
hand so we're finally getting a new jail

570
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,040
all right that's it for me after several
years

571
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:39,640
[Applause]
try 9.9 approval purchase order for

572
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:45,240
one-year hardware and software support
from Dale good afternoon Commissioners

573
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:52,559
marel Miranda director of Pender County
it uh here requesting uh the approval of

574
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,559
a purchase order to Dell Inc for

575
00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:03,200
$17319 uh this is year maintenance and
support for our uh for our core

576
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:09,559
virtualization infrastructure and we
need to continue that uh support to core

577
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:13,400
virtualization infastructure correct
what does that mean that means that all

578
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:21,599
of our internal supported systems such
as our financial system our Erp system

579
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:25,000
GIS uh our tax system uh our Enterprise
permitting and Licensing system all of

580
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,440
these run internally on our
virtualization infrastructure

581
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:36,920
okay so munus works on top of correct
the Dale virtualization okay I got

582
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:44,720
you this is being brought to you today
because it is over 30,000 and it is uh

583
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:50,319
it is with a new vendor this is going
direct with the manufacturer Dell as

584
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,319
opposed to a third party value added

585
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:59,000
reseller say that
again cut out the they cut out the midd

586
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:04,040
man oh okay gotta okay good all right I
like that last year how how how much

587
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:08,559
savings does this afford US uh I
wouldn't put this in terms of savings

588
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:16,040
because uh typically this would be
rolled into the lease um however

589
00:54:12,799 --> 00:54:20,640
uh the lease was currently rerolled uh
without Support Services did we shop for

590
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:24,520
any savings on this is this something
that we

591
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:28,520
could uh going direct to Dell is the
lowest is a lowest first support the

592
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:33,599
only other real option is third party
value added reseller which in the past

593
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:40,200
has been typically much higher okaycome
Mr Miranda is the um de support police

594
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:44,760
tment are in the United States uh yes
sir they are okay thank you I got a

595
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:49,839
question how come I have last several
days every two days I have to boot my

596
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,680
computer C computer why is
that if it's been offline for an

597
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:57,319
extended amount of time uh you probably
had several critical patches that need

598
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:02,040
to apply uh so the second that it comes
online it's out of compliance and is

599
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:06,960
trying to catch up we are going to be
working on that reboot reboot Time

600
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,960
schedule though very

601
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:15,240
soon I have a motion to approve
9.9 I a motion to approve second I have

602
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:19,520
a motion in a second all those in favor
raise your right hand thank you very

603
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:24,000
much thank
you approval of a budget amendment and

604
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:29,280
purchase order for replacement generator
for the sheriff and 911 facilities and

605
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:34,079
there's a stranger coming to the
podium we to see you quite frequently

606
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:38,640
glad to see you it's
be yes sir by the visit every once in a

607
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,760
while motion to
approve that's way that's the way we

608
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,599
like um good evening chairman and fellow
Commissioners uh we bring to you tonight

609
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:51,880
for the replacement of the LC standby
generator the generator at the Sheriff's

610
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:55,240
Office and now1 facility has exceeded
its aspected lifespan has and has become

611
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,680
increasingly
unreliable frequent malfunctions and the

612
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:04,440
rising cost of repairs have prompted us
to explore numerous replacement options

613
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:10,880
the sheriff's office has looked at the
sheriff's ass Sheriff's Association

614
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:14,680
Statewide Co-op purchase program for the
generator and we've reached out to a

615
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:21,720
local vendor to do the
installation the generator is

616
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:27,839
$65,625 and the local installation is
$26,670 that would come from the general

617
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:32,200
fund if there's no questions we ask for
it to be

618
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:38,960
approved how old is the generator the
current generator is over 15 years old

619
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:47,760
and how much has been spent in the last
year on repairs if roughly around 3500

620
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:52,480
but the issue is the Standalone fuel
tank that goes with this generator is

621
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:57,920
like your old old drum we're really
needing to get it upgraded where we have

622
00:56:55,119 --> 00:57:03,079
a you bigger add bigger slab and the
generator on top of the fuel cell that's

623
00:57:01,319 --> 00:57:06,559
one of the main issues that is causing
some of the problems with the generator

624
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:11,799
is that we've had it cleaned and we've
had it

625
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:16,680
um the fuel we've had it cleaned as well
and it's new but it's the old oil style

626
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:20,839
old oil style drum that's on the ground
and it's been there

627
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:24,839
for I mean it to me it was there before
I don't know I I've been here 5 years

628
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:28,599
but the the fuel cell seems to be like
it was there before the generator was

629
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,960
honestly but I don't know who could ask
that question who would answer that

630
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:37,400
question well how expensive would it be
to replace that

631
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:40,920
component that we didn't explore that
because it was already having issues

632
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:45,359
with the generator through the system
with the sludge that went through it and

633
00:57:42,839 --> 00:57:51,480
we we with the age of it and this
generator is our 911 backup center

634
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:57,799
protectant for the when LC has moved out
there our 911 Center will stay there as

635
00:57:54,319 --> 00:58:00,319
a backup center during problem times and
we really didn't want to piece it we

636
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:04,599
wanted to
go

637
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:10,000
full scale I guess you'd say is it
possible that we could get a less

638
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:15,039
expensive backup for those
hypercritical

639
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:22,640
functions um because we've just approved
a great expenditure for facility for law

640
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:25,960
enforcement yes this is the cheapest uh
option is going through the Sheriff's

641
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:32,599
Association to purchase the generator
and and have a local vendor do the

642
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,599
installation the other bids were over

643
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:43,119
$100,000 would that generator be able to
be repurposed to the new law enforcement

644
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:48,440
center the current generator
is possible that it could be repurposed

645
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:55,400
um but it would take a I'm talking about
the new one the well the 911 backup

646
00:58:52,280 --> 00:59:03,000
center will be in the current LC so we
need a appropriate generator to fully

647
00:58:59,319 --> 00:59:06,480
power the facility so the 911 backup
center that's correct yes so we'll have

648
00:59:04,359 --> 00:59:10,400
two 911 centers we'll have a primary
site and a backup site we currently have

649
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:16,440
that now with the backup being at the
EOC and is a state

650
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:22,599
mandated General statute that we have
that is this going to be a budget

651
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:30,000
allocation for law enforcement are y'all
splitting this with EMS and Fire

652
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:34,400
for budgetary purpos budgetary purposes
this was originally set in for

653
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:42,160
facilities that is
correct back to the general fund that

654
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:47,480
correct I'm sorry I said that again
money not used we were notable to

655
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:52,720
execute last fiscal year so the money
that was unused rolled over into the

656
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:59,160
general fund so we're oh oh so this was
a budget item from last year okay I got

657
00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:05,920
you that it was budgeted yes okay but
not was it budgeted for this past budget

658
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:11,240
that we've just approved No
Ma'am why not we

659
01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:16,440
were the best way to describe this we've
reached out to several vendors and

660
01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:20,200
waited for them to respond and they're
they have not responded in a timely

661
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:25,160
fashion so it's caused us to reach out
to other vendors who still did not get

662
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,880
back with us so that's why we're having
to peace meal

663
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:32,270
purchasing the generator but but you
didn't plug in this item into your

664
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,720
budget I can't
[Music]

665
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:41,280
remember this was not a carry or we did
not you didn't carry it out all

666
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,440
right last year's money how much went
back

667
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:52,480
in what I think we budgeted 80 I'm sorry
I think it was 80 around

668
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:56,640
88,000 that was budgeted for it so the
money's there the money's there yes sir

669
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:58,760
fund for that and he's got to have a new
that's

670
01:01:02,839 --> 01:01:15,359
correct so generator
65,8 75 and installation expense of

671
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,359
26,00 640 that's correct yes

672
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:31,079
ma'am any other questions
if not is there a motion for

673
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:41,039
9.10 I make a motion to approve second I
have a motion to Second all those in

674
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:48,480
favor raise your right
hand thank you thank you thank you thank

675
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,480
you see if we can use that in the new

676
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:56,680
facility put wheels on
it uh discussion there is I think the

677
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,680
manager has a discussion item that we
aren't going to discuss yes sir chairman

678
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:05,279
George um just wanted to give the board
an update the North Carolina Association

679
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:12,039
of County Commissioners will be hosting
their District 4 caucus on July 22nd at

680
01:02:08,279 --> 01:02:17,520
9:00 A.M on Zoom um District 4 comprises
new han County Pender County Columbus

681
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:22,119
County and Brunswick County um we will
participate in this caucus the caucus

682
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:28,440
will address the selection of District
director for the 2024 2026 term the

683
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:33,079
current District director is Mike Forte
of Brunswick County um each County on

684
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:37,799
the call will receive one vote for the
county um it is up to the counties to

685
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:44,240
determine whether to follow a specific
rotational schedule currently that is

686
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:48,680
not the case um just to give you um go
ahead the uh just the last thing the

687
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:54,480
roles and duties for the district
director are as follows uh once a year

688
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:59,839
um we will be required to host a
district director meeting County um

689
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:05,279
distribute a quarterly newsletter to
County Commissioners in their districts

690
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:10,160
and last uh present recognitions to the
boards in the different

691
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:15,520
districts so Pender County hasn't held
that the seat since 2016 yeah so in 2016

692
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:23,400
Mike
Forte uh we had were doing it on a at a

693
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:30,920
rotation it was um Pender new Handover
Brunswick

694
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:38,599
Bladen um dup and in dupin and uh when
when we came up there was nobody in

695
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:44,640
Pender that wanted to sit on that board
no I'm sorry Mike Forte was uh selected

696
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:48,680
for Brunswick in 2016 and 2020 there was
no one in dupin because it was their

697
01:03:47,279 --> 01:03:58,880
turn in
rotation um so uh Mike had support to do

698
01:03:54,319 --> 01:04:05,960
another term um is dupan dup's not I
mean Columbus right Columbus Columbus

699
01:04:01,279 --> 01:04:15,680
yeah so um I'm sorry I misspoke good but
I would strongly suggest that we Pender

700
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:22,520
get back in the rotation and have a
representative

701
01:04:17,799 --> 01:04:27,319
um to to be involved in the district so
I asked Mr manager to research and he

702
01:04:25,559 --> 01:04:33,480
has
um like 20 2016 it's a two-year term

703
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:39,520
whoever gets it is two years two or it's
two every two years hasn't had it since

704
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:46,920
2018 when George Brown was the last one
count that's correct that's right

705
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:52,240
um and then Mike Forte had supposed and
then 20 they didn't do it or something

706
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:58,279
there was a something was weird but Rob
zapple has sent out fers he's from the

707
01:04:55,200 --> 01:05:01,279
count looking for Support also so we
need to decide if we if it's something

708
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:07,079
we want to try to get in the rotation
now it should be our turn I think the

709
01:05:04,279 --> 01:05:11,000
way looking at the past schedule but
several years it didn't actually go

710
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:15,920
through the actual one two three it went
one two 4 and five you know it bounced

711
01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:22,000
around so it's up to the board what we
want to do here so let me just suggest

712
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:27,799
this since we will have a new relatively
new board Rob zapple I've worked with

713
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:32,680
him on Lower cap fear I've worked with
him on other projects I found that he's

714
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:39,720
capable and
able um if we would kick support to Rob

715
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:46,119
sapple and then maybe have a Pender
County representative ready to step in

716
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:52,680
after new handovers two years is what I
would suggest is he and I haven't looked

717
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:59,039
to see if he was if he was up for
reelection also I think you see see that

718
01:05:56,839 --> 01:06:02,039
was my concern about the only the only
one that would be on you know be

719
01:06:00,359 --> 01:06:06,760
eligible on this board and not have to
worry about rotating off would be Mr

720
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:14,119
Groves he's he's the only one that's
guaranteed to be here um in

721
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:20,279
December um but I had the same thought
you know if it if he's going to rotate

722
01:06:16,839 --> 01:06:23,720
off I'd hate to cause another Gap try to
say we're going to we're going to split

723
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:28,200
the split it up where whoever got to
come off they don't get reappointed in

724
01:06:26,279 --> 01:06:33,079
December I would just assume it stay at
our board at our turn right and one of

725
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:38,640
the five of us take it and and and I
would do it but of course I'm going off

726
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:46,160
the board in December so um I would
strongly suggest that we not allow this

727
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:52,760
to fall into a situation where Brunswick
continues right uh to to provide that

728
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:59,400
representation so so what I would like
to do is at the conference at the call

729
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:04,000
is look at the list look at who puts
their name forward and see who is going

730
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:07,599
to be actually be there you know that's
nobody's guaranteed to see nobody's

731
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:12,160
guaranteed the next day the next
minute I don't want to put someone in

732
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:16,319
there and and the term does that make
sense to yall

733
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:20,839
yes so somebody who wants to really do
with Mr manager is he has agreed he is

734
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:26,920
going to be on that conference it's open
to all of us um I think it's also open

735
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:32,319
to Lexi I think you're you have invite
to it I think too

736
01:07:29,319 --> 01:07:38,240
um so is that agreeable with everybody
we'll see who actually put your name

737
01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:43,400
in and work to get in rotation I will I
will not be on the call unless you

738
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:48,680
specifically want me to be if you two
were going to be on it but I'm thinking

739
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:53,279
that that would be the way to go okay I
will be on the call shair I have all

740
01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:58,680
intentions of being but I have to make
sure I'm where I can be and the if you

741
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:04,119
can't let me know and I will be and the
intent is you want the rotational

742
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:10,319
schedule to return yes yeah I'd rather
yeah get back in the in the flow

743
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:15,119
somehow I have no issues with nominating
Mr Gro I

744
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:15,119
mean he wants

745
01:08:16,679 --> 01:08:25,719
it that's up to him if he's willing to
to do that he's the only one of the five

746
01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:29,960
of us that will be
do yeah okay so we'll

747
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:41,839
nominate thank you
sir and then I know this isn't on the

748
01:08:37,799 --> 01:08:46,520
discussion item but we do need to um be
thinking about a delegate for the the

749
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:52,440
state conference um will all need to be
voted on at the August 5th meeting um so

750
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:58,600
if you're going to the state
conference we'll need to pick a delegate

751
01:08:54,679 --> 01:09:05,679
at that is I can do
yeah I would like to be considered

752
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:11,560
unless someone else wants to so we put
that if we can put that on the agenda

753
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,560
for the

754
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:22,400
auge is that it Mr manager on that yes
sir appointments reappointment to The

755
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:25,880
Advisory Board of Health yes so Frank
Perez has applied for your appointment

756
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:30,679
to The Advisory Board of Health for the
public member position he has currently

757
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:36,080
served one term that position expired at
the end of June uh he has a good record

758
01:09:33,719 --> 01:09:41,400
attendant or good attendance record uh
for the board and he is recommended for

759
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:46,359
reappointment um should you vote
reappointment his new term will be July

760
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:50,359
1st 2024 and it will go through June
30th

761
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:55,560
2027 I have served with Mr Perez and I
have found him to be an excellent board

762
01:09:53,000 --> 01:10:01,600
member and brings a lot to the table so
I would strongly recommend it yeah you

763
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:05,080
to I've known Mr pre over 30 years and
worked right alongside him in law

764
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,960
enforcement and he's in the audience
tonight he's a good

765
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:16,239
man
okay motion to approve motion to approve

766
01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:19,080
second I have a motion to Second all
those in favor raise your right

767
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:25,520
hand um congratulations Mr Perez

768
01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:35,710
appointment of Surf City
[Laughter]

769
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:49,760
PL pointment to the Surf City planning
board um so the Surf City planning board

770
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:55,880
uh signed a passed and signed a
resolution on June 4th

771
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:59,960
2024 uh finding Mr Gregory k Caine
qualified for the appointment and

772
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:05,280
approving his application upon the
appointment uh from you to be their

773
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:10,600
extra territorial jurisdiction member on
their planning

774
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:15,840
board uh in the agenda packet I have
attached the resolution along with his

775
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,840
application as

776
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:27,239
well there's any questions or concerns
about well um about this appointment

777
01:11:27,719 --> 01:11:34,040
to the Surf City planning board if not
is there a motion to accept the

778
01:11:31,719 --> 01:11:38,679
appointment motion to
accept Motion in a second all in favor

779
01:11:36,239 --> 01:11:38,679
raise your right

780
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:47,760
hand County Commissioner appointment to
the tourism Development Authority that

781
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:52,440
one's pretty much what you just said um
following the departure of EX

782
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:58,880
commissioner Wendy Fletcher Hardy the
board now has a vacancy um

783
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,880
we need to fill

784
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:09,000
that is there
anyone that would like to be on that

785
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:13,360
board I do have everybody's boards if
you wanted to look at that just to see

786
01:12:11,639 --> 01:12:17,320
what everybody's already got on their
plate do youall want to look at the

787
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:27,520
boards I do not have a board you like
that he does not have any boards

788
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:32,080
currently great okay they have a new is
there is there a motion to approve

789
01:12:30,199 --> 01:12:36,000
commissioner Burton to the county
commissioner

790
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,920
second motion I have a motion in a
second all those in favor raise your

791
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:43,310
right
hand congratulations congratulations

792
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:48,639
they meet 15 times a
[Laughter]

793
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,360
month I'm just kidding said y'all meet
15 times

794
01:12:52,960 --> 01:13:00,000
ath so there's nothing list under any of
the water districts so I'm assuming we

795
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:04,400
don't have any
business pen County Board of Health has

796
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:11,199
nothing listed nor the Social Services
Board items from the county

797
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:19,840
attorney well is he on there
Trey yes do you have any

798
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:27,000
it I just uh request for closed session
uh item three attorney client item four

799
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:32,239
Economic Development item five potential
acquisition of real property and item

800
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:32,239
six

801
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:39,679
Personnel thank you sir County manager
no sir I do not have any updates

802
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:44,719
assistant County Manager I do not no
thank you sir commissioner newon um yes

803
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:50,400
a couple of things I had some
conversations uh earlier this week uh Mr

804
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:59,600
manager that I'm going to need some
staff time and and uh assistance with um

805
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:04,400
other agencies with regards dredging of
the Northeast cap field River we've got

806
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:11,920
some dangerous as I understand it
situations out there locally where the

807
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:16,679
buildup and the silt has gotten to the
point where we've got you know really

808
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:24,560
big logs and debris clogging up the
river which make it a danger for um

809
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:27,239
boating and motorist um boating and boat
traffic

810
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:35,360
so
um you I think Daniel had some

811
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:41,040
conversations about this as well as uh
Jason so perhaps yes ma'am be happy have

812
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:46,400
a meeting just let me ask some sometimes
that work through schedule and can get a

813
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:56,120
staff meeting set up thank you um also
um we have a board opening uh at Novant

814
01:14:51,880 --> 01:15:06,400
uh nant hospital here in burgal um I am
on that board as a citizen and

815
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:14,600
uh we have a uh opening for a chair um a
board of commissioner uh representative

816
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:20,840
on that board um but uh and that was
vacated by Wendy but

817
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:25,719
Randy also is employed by so maybe
that's some conversation that we might

818
01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:30,280
need to have um but just wanted to
remind us that we've got that board

819
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:34,840
vacancy um and we need to fill that and
we need to fill it we can't wait to the

820
01:15:31,719 --> 01:15:43,480
new board uh not I would PR I would
prefer not um so but that's a

821
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:50,080
conversation um also I have been
advised um that there is going to be a

822
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:55,560
public meeting heads up public input
meeting uh at Pender

823
01:15:52,719 --> 01:16:02,600
Auditorium uh conducted by Pender County
utilities on our

824
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:10,719
421 Corridor water issue Monday July
29th from 6: to 7:30

825
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:16,199
p.m. um and there will be some some uh
information exchange and it's very

826
01:16:12,639 --> 01:16:23,639
important that concerned citizens attend
this meeting um we'll have updates on

827
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:30,120
the Highway 421 waterline extension and
have an opportunity for public comments

828
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:35,560
and questions uh so thank you director
colog for setting that up uh and that's

829
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:41,840
all I have thank you thank
you commissioner mcco I'm good

830
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:49,360
commissioner Burton um just a t a couple
of things for the record um earlier when

831
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:54,880
Mr Eaton came up and spoke in reference
to um his living arrangements um I I

832
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:58,840
spent a considerable amount of time on
on the phone with him the other day

833
01:16:56,679 --> 01:17:05,800
because when um when I'm called I answer
the phone and I uh my heart goes out to

834
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:11,199
him and his family and I think moving
forward it'd be a good time to Let's uh

835
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:15,159
unlock the cabinet where common sense is
and let's talk about some development in

836
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:21,320
the in the new
Udo about um having a case by case basis

837
01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:29,560
moving forward where some of these folks
won't have any problems um and second

838
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:36,840
thing is um myself and I think chairman
George has had some

839
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:39,639
uh heightened discussions with um some
folks on the Eastern side of the county

840
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:46,480
in reference
to the water and I'm hoping that we're

841
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:49,880
on top of that as as our as our water
folks are oh you talking about the

842
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:55,159
Carolina water no we're talking about
our system I'm talking about Brown water

843
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:59,280
in our system and we just we just voted
to raise their rate and I understand

844
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:03,480
that because it's been 10 years and it
was needed I understand that but when

845
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:10,639
you raise somebody's rate and then they
got brown water in their toilet it it

846
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:14,040
ain't good line out I'm I'm not sure
this one

847
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:17,199
particular has been going on since the
neighborhood Inception of the

848
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:22,159
neighborhood since wind water was put in
so it's not a new thing so it's not

849
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:24,800
Carolina size so but I do think they're
working on that and I think they're

850
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:27,199
addressing some of those citizens I just
wanted to get that on the record for the

851
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:33,679
folks that are going to be watching on
TV thank you so much that's it that's

852
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:39,760
good for me Mr gr uh just want to Echo
what Mr Burton said about Mr Eaton I Al

853
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:39,760
I went out to his

854
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:48,320
home the man wants to die in his camper
right there he just wants to die he's

855
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:53,080
got a place he wants to be buried right
there and I think we should give him the

856
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:59,400
opportunity to die in that camper if
that's what he's asking and the second

857
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:05,080
thing is the maples corner light uh
caution light and the speed limit I'm

858
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:12,000
not going to leave M corner alone until
we get a stop light all there so and I

859
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:18,040
know um Daniel has been working on that
um and several others um but what they

860
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:25,320
did this week is not the answer writing
tickets on 421 is not the answer the

861
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:31,719
answer is to um put up a stop light
and um and will that stop everything

862
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:38,320
from happening no but we had two
recently and

863
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:44,040
um I just want the Daniel and the rest
of you to stay on the do until we get a

864
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:49,679
light and that's all I
had and I'll be brief so this past week

865
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:54,719
uh me commissioner Burton he was there
we attended the groundbreaking for the

866
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:58,600
American Legion um building in Hamstead
that was exciting they they're finally

867
01:19:56,159 --> 01:20:02,159
getting a home after all these years so
that was exciting to be there and

868
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:07,400
witness that it's actually on a piece of
property that when I ran around on and

869
01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:10,719
actually have a dog buried there I lived
on that piece of property that is going

870
01:20:08,679 --> 01:20:16,320
on so was pretty neat to be there is on
Peanut Road it is between Peanut Road

871
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:22,280
and two10 it's on that little pie shaped
parel we we redistricted it for Mr Gro

872
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:27,920
brought up an important issue about the
um traffic situation at how we 421 in

873
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:31,960
Maus Corner um the county has done an
excellent job of uh communicating

874
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:38,159
through social media and other means of
the uh request from the dot for input on

875
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:41,639
projects there's a link that um our
communications director sent out a

876
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:47,679
couple of times if you can go to that
link um that project is on there and

877
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:53,080
they those projects are scored by
comments um that's how they get funded

878
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:58,120
is the one of the one of the many reason
ways it gets funded gets moved up and

879
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:03,760
scored is through public comments and
public need um so I encourage everyone

880
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,400
that has there's several projects in
Pender County there's nowhere near as

881
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,800
many projects in Pender County as there
are surrounding counties but all the

882
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:16,320
projects in Pender County are important
so I encourage people to go to that

883
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:21,040
website and that link that Brandy you
still still up right

884
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:25,400
yeah
still so I encourage people to go to

885
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:29,960
that website do the comment
um and let's try to get some of our

886
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:36,280
projects scored we're competing against
new han County Columbus County and the

887
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,280
other ones in division

888
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:44,080
three and finally the website I don't
know if youve anyone you've had a chance

889
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:49,520
to visit the website is a refreshing um
new addition to the county it is very

890
01:21:46,639 --> 01:21:54,800
easily to navigate and um I appreciate
the hard work that was done to get that

891
01:21:52,560 --> 01:22:00,120
where it is now
I can't wait to check that out I quit

892
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:04,719
going you can go right to the home
pagee right on the front page you ain't

893
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:09,040
got to look for it good deal
thank the the gis improvements are

894
01:22:07,239 --> 01:22:14,639
really nice
too so there's no other do we have a

895
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:18,199
motion to go into close sessions for
yeah I'd like to make a motion to go

896
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:23,600
into close sessions for item three
attorney client privilege item four

897
01:22:20,719 --> 01:22:30,080
Economic Development item five
acquisition of real property and item

898
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:34,080
six Personnel is there a second second
all those in favor raise your right hand

899
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:41,520
we're now in close session we'll be back
in session at 7 p.m for the public

900
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,520
hearing thank y'all for

901
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:56,440
coming

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1001
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1002
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1004
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1005
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1007
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1021
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1038
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1111
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who is the second um M okay sorry who's
the first Mr B beautiful thank

1112
03:07:59,279 --> 03:08:07,920
you we are now in public hearing special
use permits zoning map amendments and

1113
03:08:04,200 --> 03:08:07,920
resolutions 2.

1114
03:08:08,200 --> 03:08:16,960
21.1 Mr Brantley yes sir the the first
case on the

1115
03:08:13,120 --> 03:08:22,439
agenda um this evening staff is
requesting we continue this case uh

1116
03:08:19,920 --> 03:08:27,160
there there was a a minor issue with the
public notice motion to

1117
03:08:25,080 --> 03:08:32,720
continue there a
second second all those in favor raise

1118
03:08:29,399 --> 03:08:38,239
your right hand thank you very good the
second case on the agenda uh and I was

1119
03:08:35,080 --> 03:08:42,160
just speaking with Mr Thurman about this
um this is for a revision to a special

1120
03:08:40,359 --> 03:08:48,399
use permit for the industrial park
that's known as the Commerce Park um

1121
03:08:44,439 --> 03:08:56,160
there was a question about uh would this
have any impact on uh the 65% threshold

1122
03:08:53,560 --> 03:08:59,680
in the Property Owners Association and
it was a little bit unclear so we're

1123
03:08:57,800 --> 03:09:03,760
going to request to continue this as
well to be sure that we're squared away

1124
03:09:01,279 --> 03:09:07,239
on that motion to continue I have a
motion is there a second second second

1125
03:09:05,680 --> 03:09:12,760
if if the board doesn't mind I would
just like to to introduce a couple of

1126
03:09:09,359 --> 03:09:17,960
folks who came for this case um this is
Phillip McCardell uh with Philip leing

1127
03:09:16,840 --> 03:09:23,880
um and
SP Spinx uh who's helping on this

1128
03:09:21,279 --> 03:09:28,760
project as well and and um the the
county may recall that the 15 Acres that

1129
03:09:26,640 --> 03:09:34,000
was originally part of the Commerce Park
was sold to Philips Leon and toe so um

1130
03:09:32,680 --> 03:09:37,640
both of these folks have been great to
work with and and uh I just wanted to

1131
03:09:35,960 --> 03:09:41,520
acknowledge them that they've showed up
this

1132
03:09:39,239 --> 03:09:46,880
evening very good thank you both thank
you for coming before we move on um so I

1133
03:09:44,600 --> 03:09:50,279
have that Vice chair Newton made the
motion

1134
03:09:47,880 --> 03:09:54,399
commissioner Burton seconded I did not
know how everybody else voted though we

1135
03:09:52,279 --> 03:10:00,359
didn't all those in favor of continuing
till next month raise your right hand

1136
03:09:55,720 --> 03:10:05,560
beautiful thank you sorry I forgive
you so it's Phillip's Towing is that the

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03:10:03,040 --> 03:10:12,600
big toe the big the big trucks the big
tow trucks I believe

1138
03:10:08,000 --> 03:10:12,600
so perhap is that the big tow

1139
03:10:16,040 --> 03:10:19,319
trucks yes she

1140
03:10:19,800 --> 03:10:26,399
do and yeah I was just speaking with
them and it sounds like they they've got

1141
03:10:23,720 --> 03:10:29,920
an exciting project and and offer a lot
of support to the county they've been a

1142
03:10:27,880 --> 03:10:34,880
great partner to the county in a lot of
projects that I wasn't aware of until

1143
03:10:31,479 --> 03:10:37,399
just five minutes ago so just wanted to
acknowledge

1144
03:10:41,359 --> 03:10:51,960
that maybe we'll save that for for later
yes sir yes sir so I'm clicking this one

1145
03:10:49,080 --> 03:10:58,720
record time here
21.3 resoning request request to reone

1146
03:10:55,319 --> 03:11:04,760
one partial total in approximately 0.41
Acres from PD de plan development zoning

1147
03:11:02,239 --> 03:11:09,520
District to RP residential performance
zoning District yes sir thank you this

1148
03:11:06,920 --> 03:11:14,960
is the last case on the agenda it's a
general use rezoning the County Planning

1149
03:11:12,040 --> 03:11:19,680
Department is the applicant and CMH
homes Inc doing business is Clayton

1150
03:11:17,000 --> 03:11:24,160
Homes is the owner of the property the
the property is about 410 of an acre and

1151
03:11:22,520 --> 03:11:30,160
as you said Mr chairman it's currently
zoned PD and the request is to rezone it

1152
03:11:27,160 --> 03:11:34,239
to RP or residential
performance the vicinity map is is in

1153
03:11:32,800 --> 03:11:38,160
place here just to give you an idea of
where the property is it's about a

1154
03:11:36,239 --> 03:11:43,720
quarter mile southeast of the
intersection of Sloop Point Loop Road in

1155
03:11:41,000 --> 03:11:48,120
Co Drive in
Hampstead as you can see on the zoning

1156
03:11:45,840 --> 03:11:51,920
map the purple is the PD dis District
it's currently zoned PD as is a majority

1157
03:11:50,359 --> 03:11:56,800
of the property to the North and then
further west whereas a lot of the

1158
03:11:54,040 --> 03:12:03,000
property South immediately West and
further east is zoned RP or residential

1159
03:12:00,720 --> 03:12:06,800
performance this aerial is at least a
couple years old and it shows that the

1160
03:12:04,840 --> 03:12:10,439
property itself is undeveloped I have a
couple photos of the property now um

1161
03:12:09,279 --> 03:12:14,399
that show that it's been cleared and
there's been a mobile home placed on the

1162
03:12:11,960 --> 03:12:17,800
site but but you can see a lot of the
property around it is developed as

1163
03:12:16,560 --> 03:12:22,600
single family
residential um or undeveloped at this

1164
03:12:23,200 --> 03:12:30,560
time so these are some photos of the
site taken a few weeks ago so to orient

1165
03:12:28,319 --> 03:12:35,000
you the photo on the left is standing on
coal Drive facing the property and then

1166
03:12:33,520 --> 03:12:39,120
the photo on the right is standing in
the driveway facing towards Co

1167
03:12:39,399 --> 03:12:46,880
drive and then the photo on the left
here is uh standing on sloot Point Loop

1168
03:12:43,960 --> 03:12:51,640
Road looking down coold Drive the photo
on the right is basically standing on

1169
03:12:49,080 --> 03:12:55,279
cold Drive looking back up towards Sloop
Point Loop Road at the subject property

1170
03:12:53,720 --> 03:13:01,840
so just to give you some perspective of
the site may I ask a

1171
03:12:58,600 --> 03:13:01,840
question yes

1172
03:13:02,600 --> 03:13:09,920
ma'am you said the intent of the
residential performance district is to

1173
03:13:06,960 --> 03:13:15,720
allow for a variety of residential uses
densities and limited commercial

1174
03:13:12,239 --> 03:13:22,520
activities as well as Agri
tourism why would we want to do a

1175
03:13:19,319 --> 03:13:27,399
resoning and not do a special
use uh

1176
03:13:24,800 --> 03:13:35,120
there's and the reason that I asked the
question is because limited commercial

1177
03:13:31,120 --> 03:13:41,520
activities and Agri tourism AGR tourism
doesn't seem consistent with commercial

1178
03:13:39,160 --> 03:13:47,120
normal commercial activities they could
you know have an animal farm out there

1179
03:13:44,239 --> 03:13:53,120
why would why wouldn't we want some kind
kind of control which a special use

1180
03:13:50,920 --> 03:13:57,880
would give us Agri tourism would
actually be Exempted in zoning District

1181
03:13:55,239 --> 03:14:04,560
if there's the Bonafide Farm designation
so um the the likelihood of this

1182
03:14:01,800 --> 03:14:10,560
property due to its size qualifying for
a Bonafide Farm designation which would

1183
03:14:06,560 --> 03:14:18,760
allow Agri tourism is very minimal yeah
that was alarming I it says as well as

1184
03:14:13,720 --> 03:14:26,000
AGR tourism so we don't
uh why as a matter of of of of common

1185
03:14:23,160 --> 03:14:32,640
practice why wouldn't we use a special
use that we could control and limit

1186
03:14:29,359 --> 03:14:38,479
usage on rather than do a resoning it is
my question and might in in general uh

1187
03:14:37,040 --> 03:14:43,760
that that might be a better route
forward

1188
03:14:40,279 --> 03:14:49,439
um uh to to be specific about this exact
situation a permit was issued that

1189
03:14:46,600 --> 03:14:53,359
permitted a mobile home on this property
um and mobile homes are not permitted in

1190
03:14:51,479 --> 03:15:00,239
the PD District so we're trying to
correct a mistake that was made oh I see

1191
03:14:57,160 --> 03:15:05,399
I go you yes ma'am all right um I will
note that the majority of commercial

1192
03:15:02,560 --> 03:15:09,000
uses in the RP District do require a
special use permit so if someone was

1193
03:15:07,319 --> 03:15:13,399
going to come back maybe not for Agri
tourism per se but for some other

1194
03:15:11,120 --> 03:15:19,080
commercial use it would likely require a
special use permit so why is that

1195
03:15:15,600 --> 03:15:23,960
trailer already there if
it's the the a permit was issued and it

1196
03:15:22,600 --> 03:15:28,800
wasn't caught
until and that was our mistake that was

1197
03:15:26,960 --> 03:15:34,279
a planning department mistake that's
right yes ma'am see my opinion this is

1198
03:15:32,040 --> 03:15:40,239
my opinion and I don't want to know how
things work that whole

1199
03:15:36,920 --> 03:15:47,000
street has this type of house on
it why it ever got rone from RP or ra or

1200
03:15:45,080 --> 03:15:51,080
whatever it was before to plan toot
element I don't know the rest of it in

1201
03:15:49,120 --> 03:15:56,840
my opinion on that same on cold drive
that's still PD should all be RP way the

1202
03:15:55,439 --> 03:15:59,479
the next person that wants to put on the
next lot the side of it don't have to go

1203
03:15:58,439 --> 03:16:03,720
through this
whole and that's it's like when they

1204
03:16:02,120 --> 03:16:07,880
rezone and when they made zoning
districts they just

1205
03:16:05,439 --> 03:16:14,160
went and wherever the paint bomb landed
is where it was I mean I'll give you an

1206
03:16:11,880 --> 03:16:18,560
example right across the road from that
is a is a farm

1207
03:16:15,760 --> 03:16:25,880
field right right it was farmed up until
last year it's Z RP not ra RP right down

1208
03:16:24,000 --> 03:16:30,319
the road as a continuation of that same
farm that was farmed up until last year

1209
03:16:28,319 --> 03:16:34,319
it's General business still a farm still
a field still about still have forces in

1210
03:16:32,359 --> 03:16:38,040
it still own by the same people still
owned by the same people so when we did

1211
03:16:36,479 --> 03:16:44,800
the zoning Maps we kind of just closed
our eyes and do the bombs so these

1212
03:16:41,399 --> 03:16:49,279
rezonings are generally an effort to to
correct those types of

1213
03:16:47,920 --> 03:16:53,800
issues right but we're doing it one
piece at a time you know you've seen

1214
03:16:51,359 --> 03:16:57,920
this property it's going to be that kind
you know this is what that original

1215
03:16:55,960 --> 03:17:02,279
subdivision was built for was
manufactured homes right and now these

1216
03:17:00,560 --> 03:17:06,279
people are having to go
through technically they the next guy

1217
03:17:04,720 --> 03:17:10,199
can't even get a permit he's going to
have to go through all this nonsense

1218
03:17:08,479 --> 03:17:14,880
before he can even and that's something
that we've actually KN when that a track

1219
03:17:11,880 --> 03:17:20,520
is is done in error we should fix it
before wouldn't it be easy to go ahead

1220
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:27,680
and do a blanket fix if we know that's
what this community is lending itself to

1221
03:17:24,319 --> 03:17:31,720
while why wouldn't work there's um
sometimes it's difficult to get a hold

1222
03:17:28,920 --> 03:17:36,080
of multiple property owners uh and in
this case we were trying to be as

1223
03:17:33,279 --> 03:17:40,399
expeditious as possible for this this
homeowner yes ma'am

1224
03:17:38,359 --> 03:17:45,960
yeah that's it but that's something that
we have talked about uh Clayton Holmes

1225
03:17:44,279 --> 03:17:51,160
is interested in doing more work on this
road so trying to avoid a situation like

1226
03:17:48,880 --> 03:17:56,080
this they be the petitioner that were
doing this for if they

1227
03:17:53,239 --> 03:18:01,760
own the properties they have an
interesting structure on the way they

1228
03:17:59,800 --> 03:18:05,279
and and I may be misstating that I I've
been talking to them a lot and I think

1229
03:18:03,279 --> 03:18:10,000
they're listening this evening so I'm
their ears are certainly ringing but a

1230
03:18:07,720 --> 03:18:14,120
lot of times the way they or at least in
this case the way they structure the

1231
03:18:11,319 --> 03:18:20,359
deal is an individual bought the
property and then uh basically

1232
03:18:17,279 --> 03:18:25,120
contracted with Clayton Holmes to put
that property or to put a mobile home on

1233
03:18:22,800 --> 03:18:29,120
that property uh so Clayton holes has
some sort of ownership stake in that

1234
03:18:26,880 --> 03:18:34,359
property and then we'll basically sell
it back to the owner I could be botching

1235
03:18:31,920 --> 03:18:38,199
that um but that was sort of my rough
grasp of how the ownership structure

1236
03:18:36,399 --> 03:18:45,319
works and again if there's another
parcel that's similarly situated as the

1237
03:18:41,479 --> 03:18:51,040
one we're here today for then the
manufacturer if there doing this for

1238
03:18:48,600 --> 03:18:56,160
consumers if they're selling them the
lot so they'll have something to put a

1239
03:18:52,800 --> 03:19:03,800
lean against shouldn't they be conveying
a properly um designated

1240
03:19:01,560 --> 03:19:08,680
parcel yes ma'am and that's something
that we've talked about um is is looking

1241
03:19:07,000 --> 03:19:13,640
at some some of these other properties
along this road and potentially rezoning

1242
03:19:10,920 --> 03:19:20,880
them um well I think it would certainly
be easier rather than one by one tying

1243
03:19:17,160 --> 03:19:28,840
up our staff and our time to make that
that change so I'm I'm on your side and

1244
03:19:24,479 --> 03:19:34,800
I'm on your side so um it just doesn't
it seems to me that they ought to go on

1245
03:19:31,279 --> 03:19:40,000
the offense with this yes ma'am
absolutely small Lots each about a half

1246
03:19:37,239 --> 03:19:43,319
acre that's a big little less than
that that's like three times the size of

1247
03:19:42,160 --> 03:19:47,479
a regular lot
Hamad thank you for your speech that's

1248
03:19:45,319 --> 03:19:53,399
not an exaggeration sir
if you could get DEQ and and U Raleigh

1249
03:19:51,800 --> 03:19:57,319
at the state level to speed up on some
stuff we'd be gladly appreci I'm sorry I

1250
03:19:55,359 --> 03:20:01,479
didn't mean to interrupt no problem no
problem interrup yeah and I'm sorry I

1251
03:19:59,920 --> 03:20:06,600
didn't mean to run that rabbit I just
didn't understand what we would doing

1252
03:20:02,960 --> 03:20:10,960
here I know and I I my radar was going
off I anticipated that might be the case

1253
03:20:09,160 --> 03:20:16,880
I should have given you some some fair
warning that's all right um I can go

1254
03:20:13,880 --> 03:20:22,920
through the remainder of the slides but
you've basically gotten the

1255
03:20:20,560 --> 03:20:27,439
point the planning board did recommend
approval

1256
03:20:25,720 --> 03:20:30,279
unanimously and then there's a
consistency statement on the screen if

1257
03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:32,680
the board would like to use that when
making a

1258
03:20:34,199 --> 03:20:41,800
motion we've heard the presentation from
staff they are the applicant so there is

1259
03:20:39,279 --> 03:20:49,160
no public comment or signups on there's
no public com is there any questions if

1260
03:20:45,160 --> 03:20:53,040
not is there a motion who yours motion
for approval it is in my district but I

1261
03:20:51,000 --> 03:20:58,960
can't make a motion I'll second it have
a motion he need to I guess read it for

1262
03:20:56,080 --> 03:21:05,640
the record whether um
page to approve that the motion to

1263
03:21:01,640 --> 03:21:11,479
approve uh make a finding that uh the
proposed resoning is consistent with

1264
03:21:08,239 --> 03:21:15,239
Pender 2.0 comprehensive land use plan
set approval is reasonable and in the

1265
03:21:13,520 --> 03:21:20,080
public interest and furthers the goals
of the Pender 2.0 comprehensive land use

1266
03:21:17,760 --> 03:21:25,600
plan because it is consistent with the
following policies and goal as noted in

1267
03:21:23,000 --> 03:21:35,479
the staff report you got all that Lexi
policy 5.1 V policy 5.1 W and goal

1268
03:21:32,760 --> 03:21:39,880
5.8 and that is my motion there a motion
is there a second so I have a motion and

1269
03:21:37,399 --> 03:21:45,680
a second all in favor raise your right
hand thank you yes sir thank you and

1270
03:21:42,760 --> 03:21:49,840
that that's it for uh land use hearings
this evening thank you Daniel and thank

1271
03:21:47,680 --> 03:21:54,800
you for earlier today for taking that
meeting and helping get that matter

1272
03:21:52,120 --> 03:21:58,479
resolved yes ma'am no problem thank
you motion to adjourn there's a motion

1273
03:21:57,640 --> 03:22:01,960
to
adjourn happy birthday