4:00 p.m. you please stand for the invocation led by commissioner Burton
followed by The Pledge by Mr gr commissioner
Grose bow let us pray Our God and heavenly father as We Gather here
tonight we ask you to watch over each and every person here want you to watch
over this board tonight give us wisdom and guidance as we carry on the mission
of the business of the people of Pender County we also
pray tonight that you keep watch over this
country we're going through some tumultuous and trying times Lord we ask
that you guide our thoughts and as we go forward from this
place be with each and every one in your mighty name Jesus name amen
amened I pled alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and
justice for all thank you if we have any veterans if you would please remain
standing to be
recognized thank you
all board members we have the uh agenda you've had a chance to review it there
is a couple of amendments to the agenda uh yes and at this time I'd like
to move to adopt the agenda or at this time I'd like to move to remove items
6.1 and 6.2 uh to be removed to next uh
agenda I have a motion to remove 6.1 and 6.2 is there a second second have a
second all those in favor raise your right
hand having passed I'd like to approve the agenda with the exception of 6.1 and
6.2 there a motion is there a second second all in favor raise your right
hand thank you board members 5.1 public hearing regarding I
guess I need to gel into public hearing public hearing regarding law enforcement
center bond insurance Miss
blue good evening um I'm Meg blue Pender County finance director I just wanted to
introduce the public hearing for the law enforcement center Bond
issuance um it was noticed in the paper and has been noticed um I don't know if
we have the sign up sheet anywhere okay great I will get out of the way then
okay the uh first individual that we have is Sheriff Alan Cutler from the
Pender County Sheriff's Office
good afternoon Mr chairman board members thank you for having me I just wanted to
to get up and speak on this just for just for a minute I won't take long I
wanted to thank everyone who's worked so hard on this project so far uh getting
us to do this point uh the current conditions of our facility now is is
really making it hard to maintain state inspection requirements uh we're
constantly having to perform maintenance on the buildings uh it puts a strain on
County maintenance and uh we do apologize for that Mr Troy and all of
you but uh we do have certain requirements that we have to meet uh
this funding will allow us to provide for the needs and the growth of the
County uh it will ensure the safety of of our Detention officers and the
inmates
um I appreciate you allowing me to come and speak I also wanted to
uh give give recognition and thanks to uh current representative Smith who is
the former Sheriff this project started many years ago or at least discussion
about it in some preliminaries uh he's worked very hard on that and through
through legislative action actually had the land donated that this building is
proposed to go on so wanted to give him recognition and thanks for that but I
thank you for your consideration and I thank you for hearing me
today thank you sir thank you the next speaker is Ed Scott from 65n Road
[Music]
Ro my name is Ed Scott I live in Swan Plantation in Rocky Point I have just
two simple questions uh number one I'm just going to increase my real estate
taxes and number two there are at least seven
police departments within Pender County they being in Atkinson bergall Surf City
um St Helen topsul and you might consider Wallace
county line runs through it Wallace is more in the Willington standard
metropolitan area than the other side so it might be counted is there any thought
being given to making the new law enfor forcement Center a a central point for
the operations of the police forces throughout the county just those two
questions first off will it increase my real estate
taxes thank you sir we don't respond to questions we'll have we'll take notes
someone will contact you I can't answer that's wonder that question at
this time but I don't think so I think we're in good
she you don't respond to questions no sir
not but we can tell you
fantastic that is all that signed up for the public
hearing we are now out of the public hearing for the
bond back to the agenda
6.3 North Carolina ACC youth Summit presentation
Spencer okay good afternoon I just want to introduce Alex Grover he is a a
lifetime 4H member he will be attending the North Carolina Association of County
Commissioners annual conference this year so he would like to um do his uh
requirement of speaking to the County Commissioners and we also need a picture
at the end
so good
afternoon good afternoon okay there we go my name is Alex Grover as Mr JY just
said I'm here to talk about my 4 experience experiences I've been in 4
for nearly 11 years now I have done a great number of things
through 4 that I I probably wouldn't have done anywhere
else it all started when I was about 6 years old and I had went to Summer fund
days it's like stem activities and field trips I've also attended summer camp at
two to three 4 summer camps I want to attend the third one in a few weeks to
be for a with oh shoot I'm going to be a leader in training in
L I think I've lost skills to pass on this is why I wanted to be an L in the
first place more recently I'm a part of pendrick
County for team Council in team Council we have the opportunity to meet new
people and schedule our service projects that we do sometimes our most recent one
was with the little library that we built just over there by the extension
building and every year for team have the opportunity to go to for congress at
Congress we have we learn how that our state is run and last a couple years ago
had to opportunity to beat representative Carson Smith where we
discussed local issues and I look forward to attending
youth Voice next month and learning more about our local government thank you for
letting me represent Pender County well done thank
[Applause] you so we some of us will see you there
yeah some of us will see you there come up and take your picture
yeah of we'll stand behind you best we can oh we can come
around we can go around there whichever easy go around there Mr M this is a
start of an illustrious career we need to do it right that's right
it's
hard congratulations
[Applause] [Music]
we are now public comment yes sir chairman we have uh four individuals
signed up for public comment tonight the first is Clarence E and there is not an
address listed so as a speaker comes forward I have
this public comment uh message I need to read speakers will be acknowledged by
the board of commiss board chair person in the order in which the names appear
on the sheet speaker shall address the board from the podium and begin comments
by stating name and address speakers shall be courteous and respectful in
their remarks and shall refrain from personal attacks and the use of
profanity and discussion of personnel or other matters deemed
confidential by law and you have 3 minutes
thank you yes sir my name is Clarence leelan Eaton give a name friends call me
Captain Clark past 40 plus years thank y' all for taking your time
to listen to my little problem I have I brought a couple of friends with me if
you'd raise your hands to little show of support right there to people that
Believe in Us my wife and I it's my wife over there in the red we've been married
for 19th of this month will be um 52 years you started forgot didn't you
almost missed
up and uh we moved up here from Florida I was raised right here in Pender County
started school over here burgo miss Taylor was my first grade teacher cute
little thing she had a little ruler she'd Spanky with but anyhow uh we moved
up here we got a piece of property back on our family family land to Ramsey land
out on Highway 53 o Ramsey property I'm a little
nervous and I'm reading and uh we got a citation for um that darn it Citation
for U because we live in a camper they call
it a camper I call it home we live in an RV we brought it up from Florida with us
put it on our property out there we've been living there for 4 years we had no
problem with none of our neighbors would get along with all of our people uh I
think a lot of all of our neighbors that came in and supported us today and uh
they're neighbors we get along we do things for one another and they cannot
believe this law has been on the books since
1988 that no one can live in an RV in Pender County since
19 no 2016 that first flood come through first big flood in the century come
through that should have been took off the books give people their freedom
their life back 2018 come by God painted some ugly on this country people had to
live wherever they could live some of them was lucky enough to have an RV to
live in some wasn't they had to live in motels and
whatever but uh that law needs to be looked at really hard it might have been
good back in 1988 I don't know about that but today we live in an RV I got a
citation for for living in it I didn't know I was breaking the law and now I'm
a criminal I'm a criminal I'm 79 years old 78 years old my wife will be she's
old [Music]
too and uh I don't I just don't have a lot more
to to say have I passed my time yet you got a few seconds okay um I wish y'all
would give it a a lot of thought about helping us I've spoke to a couple of
people and they've um all I get I get a lot of I I understand
I understand I understand well they don't really understand we're old and we
look our tent days are over with now we've had some tent days and enjoyed
them but I will not enjoy them now and I was told I could live in a tent on my
property but I couldn't live in my they call it RV in my home air conditioned
all my medicines are in there all of our medicines it has to be kept at a certain
temperature but I could live in a 10 out there in the yard don't make a lot of
sense to me and in closing I'd like to thank y'all for listening to me I'd like
to thank my friends and neighbors for coming and supporting
me all right thank you sir good friends good friends
and have have y'all rather me would y'all feel more comfortable I'm sorry go
ahead did they get do his address on there yes it's actually it's
805 if if I got just a second what brought this about was to save $72
a year $72 don't sound like nothing used to not be nothing to me but it is now so
I asked the mail carrier what would it take for me to put a mail get a mailbox
get my address my out there where we live at just put a mailbox up there put
your address on you get your mail well I got a a thing in the mail my address is
not recognized 805 old Ramsey Road is not a recognized address address well
it's been I've recognized address for 20 years give or take a day or
to this m go anyway that's the address we used and I didn't understand I went
there to help them under get help me understand why I needed to go to the
Pender County Board planning department to get my address it's not a
recognized address they couldn't they didn't explain it to me they said
something about the emergency thing okay okay well unfortunately I had to call
the 911 for my wife she had no trouble they had no trouble finding our place
the emergency people no trouble finding 805 old Ramsey
Road later on I have understood that that's
changed changed up here because of the uh emergency systems that's
out and I think I'm still going to need a 911 uh
emergency thing for some kind of address for where we live at out there and uh so
my ignorance not stupidity but ignorance of the way things are done now with that
system I didn't understand it and I apologize to the world for
it that's all I got thank you sir to say I went to this house the other day and I
observe what's going on so I really um hope something we can help these guys
out with I mean get to the point they can't afford a house um they have a your
time it's put in it's working and so we's see what we can do thank you we
have a beautiful home thank
you you're blessed with good friends too yes yes yes thank you good friend all
right the next speaker is Wanda Eaton at 805 old
Ram okay right all right the next speaker then is Rob Gillian at 149 East
Bailey
Lane look like another picture
is there one more she she's a sister
oh we got the family here uh I would like to say thank you um
to for allowing us to speak today first off I would like to say thanks for the
partnership with Pender County Parks and Rec uh the job that Zach and his team
does for us at kuanana Park has helped us flourish and grow as a league uh when
I started help running this league in 2019 we were about 68 girls we have
grown it up to 167 girls this year um this is the first time ever in the topso
girls softball um history that we are aware of that this is the first time
we've been able to make it to the World Series uh we're very proud of these
girls for the [Applause]
effort we're very proud for the effort that theyve put in all the hard work I
have been coaching majority of these girls since
2019 uh just to see where they've grown and where they've come from um not even
including that but just the character that they have uh not only did we get
invited to the World Series they also won the state sportsmanship award which
is one of the highest Awards you can get in Dixie Softball for the entire state
for our entire age group as well [Applause]
I will also say with that we did have two other age groups win the
sportsmanship award um in U and 10U during the districts that's something
that we're very proud of and that we push that we want to be a representation
of what this community is um and we really thank you for listening to us
today and all the um Partnerships that we've had with Pender County Parks and R
you know the only thing that I ask is if you have any resources or any help that
you can provide for these girls as we go down to East waa Louisiana which is
Monroe Louisiana um we would greatly appreciate it um you know not only did
we just spend 5 days in Belmont North Carolina now we have to travel down to
East waa and spend another about week down there so any anything that you
could help and provide and um just be a partner with us we greatly appreciate it
and we look to continue to grow our league and flourish at ku's Park thank
y'all thank [Applause]
you so I do have one quick question or one quick comment or couple quick
comments I see coach Jay's back here coach Jay was at Harrington was there
when I was the the leader of that organization way back when my daughter
is getting married now it's been that long ago um so it's come a long way it's
great to see the girls we went to the first state at that time as a 8U team um
no 10U team with my daughter and that's amazing to see that going to the World
Series congratulations which which one are you doing yall doing xplay or y'all
doing traditional traditional tradition traditional cool deal that's good to see
can we get a a picture um congratulations ladies that's
awesome very proud of
stand stand back here behind you I saw a couple other little girls back there
with the uniforms on they sisters
oh they get to go have fun
and congratulations again good luck good
luck Mr manager do you have their contact coach's contact
information he's got your number just just real quick on the the follow along
with that bergall um Dixie Youth also has a team that's going to participate
in the World Series in Leiana and they were supposed to be here tonight but
their coach had um a heat heat exhaustion I think they said so they're
not they're not making it tonight to be recognized but so burgal Dixie Youth has
a team going and topsel Dixie Youth has team well that's pretty impressive for
the county is that there's one more speaker
chairman it is Shane fley 265 Riverview
Drive hello uh I've been invited here by Clark who I've known for the past two
years I'm a PA resident and I bought property on a Riverview Drive and when
he brought up the the topic of RV I've actually gone through that too I I
purchased land with a with a gift house that was flooded so I've been working on
that the past two years and uh originally uh I wanted to get an RV and
put it on the property and I was told you're not allowed to have power you're
not allowed to have an RV pretty much the same thing so I just wanted to uh
come show my support for Clark and also I would like to move down here and you
know that become my residence but uh getting a service Pole or getting
electric or getting anything done has been I would say tremendously difficult
from Pennsylvania coming down here just to Pender County I've looked in Oslo
I've looked you know other states um but again I'd like to show my support for
Clark and if you if you could re-evaluate that whole RV thing for
someone like me that lives lives out of state and works out of state and wants
to move down here uh I do have nice property 4 Acres I'm working on the
house I was told I could clean uh which I have been and got the house but I I
don't have power I don't have water uh so if you could look into that I think
it needs to be it's time for it to be re-evaluated and I understand the whole
uh with Florence with the the flooding and seeing the whole County underwater
with is just incredible to me I live in wsar so I'm actually in a flood zone so
I go from one flood zone to to the next and I've I've never been flooded yet but
for from an outof State perspective I would like the opportunity to bring an
RV and place it on the property uh not and not trash it up you know the
property but just have a work site thank you for your time thank you thank you
that concludes public comment moving along to consent agenda
board members youve had a chance to review the consent agenda is there a
motion to approve the consent agenda motion to approve have a motion is there
a second second all those in favor raise your right
hand thank you sir thank you Captain Clark
just give a second to clear the room then we'll start
back 9.1 approval of resolution requesting assistance to declare a
disaster declaration for the farmers impacted by the
2024 drought like
good afternoon Commissioners I'm Mark sites I'm the county Cooperative
Extension director um the resolution before you is mainly to recognize the
fact that this has been one of the worst drought years that we've seen in eastern
North Carolina um I've lived here 20 years and
and we've had other Dr but I think the the main problem with this one is it
started earlier than it normally would hit us our corn crop is um Statewide our
state extension corn specialist is estimating we might see a state average
yield of 60 bushs to the acre which is probably 120 bushel below what our
potential what our average was last year um the cost of production just to
break even for most Farmers is somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 to 160 buels
to the acre the um the damage from the drought
in our corn crop is severe um the rain that we got last week
will help our soybeans it'll help with a a little bit
with our pasture um and our hay crops later this
summer and fall if we keep getting rain um
but you know we got rain Thursday and Friday last week or Wednesday Thursday
Friday and now we we're in our second day of almost 100° heat that is supposed
to be on top of us and all that water that we just got is just
disappearing um there are fields that I've been in that even with the rain
um you almost can't get a shovel in the ground the subsoils are so dry it's like
concrete and so this declaration basically is a
request to the governor to try to speed up the process of getting a disaster
declared um other counties are have asked me for a copy of this resolution
to for their Commissioners to um go forward with the same kind of
Declaration I don't know personally all the details of of the financial side of
what a death disaster declaration will um provide in terms of relief for
Farmers but as you all know the federal government does not work quickly and so
if we can get the process started now versus September October
November um then at least we're two or three months ahead of the game and I
have a question if you have crop insurance does that cover
drought crop insurance will cover a portion of the losses and again I don't
know the real details of of how you know what a disaster declaration will provide
in terms of relief funding for farms in addition to the crop insurance
I I I don't know all those details but um if there's any assistance that could
be made or given to Farmers in North Carolina um in addition to crop
insurance then that process just needs to get started and that's pretty much
what this declaration is asking for so I listen to the Southern Farm
Network every morning I think it is when I go on my way to work and there's so
start to gain momentum Statewide and not in South Carolina
also try to have these resolutions and declarations made to try to start
getting some relief ahead of time as you said they were saying on there you know
this is early this is early to be calling for it it's usually after a
storm or at the end of the crop season when when things turn out so bad but
they can predict that the the crops start will be there now because there's
no rain well and and as if you look at the rainfall pattern from last week the
this burga Corridor bergar to Wallace got a pretty good amount of rain we got
four four to seven or maybe 8 inches of rain the coastal side of the county got
less than an inch the Atkinson side of the county got less than an inch so you
know we're not out of this drought yet and and when we have 100 plus degree
heat indexes you know I I've been telling people you equate it to you and
I having to live outdoors in a tent 24 hours a day in these kind of
temperatures our crops are out there 24 hours a day they're stressed they're
really struggling to try to stay alive they're not putting the energy in that
they normally would do to produce seed and to produce kernels um and the hay
crop has been dormant I've talked to some people that make hay they haven't
even gotten a second cutting of hay off this year they got an A first cutting in
May and the grass just went dormant just it's not growing so there's people that
are feeding cattle hay to right now normally we wouldn't be feeding hay
until December January February yeah I'm supplementing my hes through the summer
which I've never had to do before so I have a question is there any reason that
you have specified soybean and corn farms in the county would we be limiting
our request for assistance for the soy beans and corn crop or their truck crops
and and other types of produce uh and farm production that could be involved
in and would we not be better SU to just to pull out soybeans and corn yeah
that's that's probably correct we should probably broaden that request because
our blueberry Growers have been having to
irrigate which basically sets the plant up for next year's crop without water
they're those plants are not setting buds they're not setting flower leaf
tissue they're just not thriving so yeah there's other crops that will be
affected by this as well
I guess when I when I wrote this corn and soybeans was just stuck in my
head on your mind right now um so with that I would like to make a motion that
we approve uh this resolution requesting a declaration for disaster for Farmers
impacted by drought in 2024 growing season um with the caveat that we would
exclude uh specific it of soybeans and corn and related to all all crops that
are impacted in this growing season second have a motion a second all
those in favor raise your right hand thank you thank you for bringing
that that's thank
you 89.2 accept North Carolina emergency management capacity building competitive
Grant Mr Batson good afternoon chairman and
fellow board members pter County Emergency manager requesting the board
to accept the grant the cbcg grant budget amendment and PO for Company
Wrench in early 2024 pend County Emergency Management staff applied for
the North Carolina emergency management capability building
competitive grant program the full grant for the FY 24e was funding with $11.92
five million with a cap of 200,000 Per County to be for this grant program the
counties must have a population of 230,000 or fewer based on the 2021
certified County population estimates from the state the grant for Pender
County Emergency Management was 1ou or
$127,600 lbs and other palletized items perer County was one of 19 counties
awarded the CBC 2024 grants the equipment is on site and ready for
pickup and will be ready to be used prior to the peak of Hurricane Season
the only cost to the county is the tags for the trailer which we will cover in
the current budget so we're requesting for this cbcg grant to be accepted the
budget amendment and a PO to Company Wrench out of Smithville North Carolina
so we got to pay for the tag we got to pay for the tags on the trailer but the
trailer in the fort wol will be ours and we can use it as needed to help all
County entities and other agencies what's the difference between a forklift
and a skitter a skitter is a to my knowledge it's the use for land clearing
or a skid steer is the little track machine like they use in a parking lot
but this is the 4x4 all terrain that we use in a parking
lot we can use in a building and some of the problems we've had currently is the
EM Port LIF is only used on concrete or asphalt and the rocks will tend to get
stuck in this will be used to move our palletized equipment during storms or
unload and load tractor trailers when it's not in use can other departments
use it other County entities can use it and I've worked I've talked to Troy and
the guys at facility to partner with them and work together to use it for
other County needs during non- disaster times as well as other counties across
the state since it was state funded outstanding outstanding work Mr
Batson especially on finding a grant that's no strings attached Grant that's
great that's usual Mr M you had something I I'm Mak a
motion I made a motion to approve it motions there and a second all in favor
raise your right hand thank you Tommy thank
you n.3 approval the HUD requested Housing Opportunity through
modernization Act of 2016 admin plan wow
L good evening Commissioners my name name is suava I'm the Pender County
Housing director and today I'm requesting approval of our new admin
plan which is the Housing Opportunity through modernization act um we did not
put one in front of you because it's 365 pages long we do have we have so there's
one at the County's manager if um office if you want to go ahead and review it
and we will also have one in our department
also and ours has not been updated since
2016 is there any question board members Lexi had sent out a notice last week
that she had it available motion approved a motion to
approve is there a second a second all those a favor raise
your right hand thank you thank
you approval of updated Pender County procurement policy effective July 15
2024
good afternoon again um this is the County's
procurement policy which applies to all County departments including um
utilities and it basically governs how we are permitted to procure anything
funded with federal state or local funds um there are differences in the
requirements based on where the original money comes from
um I will say that if there's even a dollar of federal or state funding that
all their rules apply to every dollar that's part of the project or the
contract um there's not a lot of substantial change to this policy it's
it's very much like our previous policy it puts some things in writing that
maybe we just were doing as a best practice um the the biggest change is it
does give a little more authority to the county manager to approve things that
the board has already approved so it will eliminate some of the we just did
this in budget now we got to do this all over again we just approved this
contract last year let's get it approved again um he would have the authority to
approve those on behalf of the board as long as they are inconsistent with what
the board originally approved um and terminate contracts as
well um trying to think of the other major things that it does um it
streamlines some of the um threshold the different thresholds as
to be more consistent with federal and state previously our policy was a lot
more restrictive than federal or state um this gets it a little closer to being
consistent with those um and then it also talks about
change orders and how those will um be processed which we already do change
orders it just puts the process kind of on
paper um I believe I emailed this out a couple of weeks ago uh if you have any
questions I'm happy to answer them um but we're we're pretty excited about it
um we've worked really hard on it and um we would appreciate you approving it is
there any questions Miss blue emailed this week or two ago it was all the
changes were in pretty green highlights they were very easy to see um is there
any questions or comments if not is there a motion motion to approve I have
a motion to approve is there a second second have a motion to Second all those
in favor raise your right hand thank you very much anything to
streamline the process thank you Miss BL yes and she's going to stay right there
for a while I am approval on the law enforcement center project
authorization yes so 9.5 is uh 9.5 and 9.6 go together um and I will not take
full credit for this um Mr Bob Jessup with uh Sanford holshouser is in the
audience and he is happy to answer any of the legal technical questions that
you may have um basically 9.5 approves a resolution supporting the application to
the local government commission for the financing agreement for the law
enforcement center um we have we're in the process
of working with the LGC to get that on their next agenda and
9.6 obviously you probably approve them separately but 9.6 basically approves
the documents um they're in draft form here but um it approves the documents
and the um terms of the
financing is there any can I address the questions that came up a little earlier
in the public hearing you thought the tax the tax issue or the um I can
attempt at both of them but I'll go the tax one first because I know they answer
to that one um the repayment of The Debt Service for
this financing has already been included in our current tax rate so there will be
no tax rate increase based on the approval of this
financing we know we interest right we going to be able to get we're working on
that um right now time that's right we're working on locking that and we'll
have I I should have the answer to you by the next
meeting um I just don't want to speak out of turn and not I just want to say U
I know it's a really need this building and all my concern is protected our our
credit rating for the county doua I know we said we were we were covered on that
but uh down the road I know we just keep adding stuff to it so
um anyway I know right now this is all I'm be with this that's about
overloading it down everything else down like overloading a credit
card I understand um as far as the regionalization of using the law
enforcement center for the entire County purposes it will
house the entire County's uh 911 system um dispatch and that that will
communicate with every agency law
police EMS fire um all the above um and it will have
some Regional applications and agencies
associated with it but as far as like housing the Surf City fire or um excuse
me police department that's not really logistically going to work um but but we
are we have an the Sheriff's Office can correct me if I'm wrong but there are
some thoughts about as as Consolidated as we can get being
efficient with what we're doing for sure and hopefully some other counties will
like we doing now we pay other anel Lo some other counties to keep some of
mar um inm and so they could we could make money off that I guess you know
people coming in to pay we do have some of our inmates out of County yes you're
correct um and that would alleviate some of that as well you're you're correct M
do you have any question or or any idea of like the last couple of
years how much we've spent as a County Housing inmates
outside of the cam I do um I would say probably about
four or five years ago it was in the realm of $750,000 a year talking about
after Co after Co start before Co before Co it was okay after Co um Co
drastically reduced that um because they weren't taking they weren't allowing it
um and as far as the numbers they can they can they may speak to that better
than I can but um as far as the dollars it's been between
150,000 to 100,000 a year thank you as are Ballpark don't
hold me to exact numbers but last time I checked well hopefully with a new jail
and a new law enforcement center we can turn the tide and start housing some
federal inmates and some other County inmates and start making a little
revenue for our County I I believe that um the sheriff's office has shared with
the um folks the last time we had this conversation that that would be a
possibility to be part of that federal inmate housing be
great any other questions or comments on either 9.5 or
9.6 if not is there motion to approve 9.5 I make a motion to approve 9.5 have
a motion is there a second
second motion to Second all those in favor raise your right
hand just point of clarification if I may um we are doing an inst installment
financing in addition to some bonding can you briefly very briefly go over the
financing on this project sure um it is limited obligation bonds which will be
backed in collateral by the law enforcement center itself um so a
general obligation Bond would be backed by
the taxing power of the county um but this will be backed by the actual law
enforcement center itself um we are it it will sell Bonds in the Capital
markets it will be 20 years um we're still working on the interest rate but
um you know those are those fluctuate until you lock them in um um Mr chair to
to commissioner McCoy's point with regards um Bond could we have a word
from our a bond representative as to that issue and how we're standing on a
bond rating with the County if if he's prepared to do so would like
to Mr Jess want to do that Mr Mr Jessup oh and um sorry we also have Ben Wilson
with Davenport here with us um so we have the legal and the financial folks
um with us today and if you want to take it you're Happ I'm happy to throw that
one to you thank you would you mind repeating the question it was a little
bit hard to hear back there the the bond process and how uh what our bond what
our County Bond rating is yes and how this project will affect uh if any our
bond rating right so as far as the bond rating goes we had conversations with
the rating agencies about actually two weeks ago today um they are working
through their analysis and we should get results from them within the next week
or so um we don't expect your bond ratings to change and really this Bond
issuance the debt that is issued by the county is only a small piece of the
entire puzzle that they put together to determine what your rating is and they
understand that as an expanding County you're going to have Capital needs and
they recognize that you all have been planning for this for the past several
years um so the issuance of this these new bonds is not a concern really from
the credit pers perspective um and we we expect that those ratings will at least
be at the level that they are currently what is our rating is a double A so you
start the highest is Triple A and then there's and and that rating will give us
favorable uh terms yes ma'am that's the highest possible rating is AAA and you
are just below that in the double A Range if account have a AAA I think you
know yeah what he said it's very it's very difficult to get a AAA r good yeah
and they again they take into account a lot of different things economics the
debt you all have your finances everything so so there's a lot that goes
into that okay great thank you thank you yes and one of the one of the larger
things which is go speaks to your concern commissioner McCoy that they
consider in that rating is one thing that we can't change which is our
location next to the coast um it it's it inherently is just a risk that we have
to um contend with but we do plan
accordingly and they appreciate that so thank you for your concern
because that's and thank
you sure moving to 9.6 is there any
questions 9.6 is not is there a motion to
approve make a motion to approve is there a
second I'll second all those in favor raise your right hand
9.7 approval of contract and purchase order to Daniels and Daniels for
construction of the law enforcement center
project so um Mosley Architects is our architect that we awarded our um design
contract to some time ago um they have been working on putting
this bid out for the construction portion of this project this is a design
bid build um this project the the bid tab is
included and Daniels and Daniels is um the the pro or
recommended vendor um based on their proposal um and so our request is that
you would approve the contract to be awarded to Daniels and Daniels um the
purchase order to go along with
it we have a motion I mean do I have a motion to approve 9.8
motion to approve is there a second second all those in favor raise your
right hand that was 9.7 sorry
Lex I need to do that again I'm up with speed
we all right sorry about that motion to approve
9.7 is there a second second all those in favor raise
your now we're at 9.8 approval of budget amendment to the entire law enforcement
center project yes so this budget amendment
although it looks complicated is um simply to budget for the entire project
design and construction and repay the county back
the portions that were upfront during the design base of this project so
that's why you see the transfer back to the general fund
and it's based on all of the information previously approved so what we've
already spent can be capitalized back into the debt on the project that is
correct okay is there a motion to approve 9.8
motion approved is there a second I'll second I in favor raise your
right hand so we're finally getting a new jail
all right that's it for me after several years
[Applause] try 9.9 approval purchase order for
one-year hardware and software support from Dale good afternoon Commissioners
marel Miranda director of Pender County it uh here requesting uh the approval of
a purchase order to Dell Inc for
$17319 uh this is year maintenance and support for our uh for our core
virtualization infrastructure and we need to continue that uh support to core
virtualization infastructure correct what does that mean that means that all
of our internal supported systems such as our financial system our Erp system
GIS uh our tax system uh our Enterprise permitting and Licensing system all of
these run internally on our virtualization infrastructure
okay so munus works on top of correct the Dale virtualization okay I got
you this is being brought to you today because it is over 30,000 and it is uh
it is with a new vendor this is going direct with the manufacturer Dell as
opposed to a third party value added
reseller say that again cut out the they cut out the midd
man oh okay gotta okay good all right I like that last year how how how much
savings does this afford US uh I wouldn't put this in terms of savings
because uh typically this would be rolled into the lease um however
uh the lease was currently rerolled uh without Support Services did we shop for
any savings on this is this something that we
could uh going direct to Dell is the lowest is a lowest first support the
only other real option is third party value added reseller which in the past
has been typically much higher okaycome Mr Miranda is the um de support police
tment are in the United States uh yes sir they are okay thank you I got a
question how come I have last several days every two days I have to boot my
computer C computer why is that if it's been offline for an
extended amount of time uh you probably had several critical patches that need
to apply uh so the second that it comes online it's out of compliance and is
trying to catch up we are going to be working on that reboot reboot Time
schedule though very
soon I have a motion to approve 9.9 I a motion to approve second I have
a motion in a second all those in favor raise your right hand thank you very
much thank you approval of a budget amendment and
purchase order for replacement generator for the sheriff and 911 facilities and
there's a stranger coming to the podium we to see you quite frequently
glad to see you it's be yes sir by the visit every once in a
while motion to approve that's way that's the way we
like um good evening chairman and fellow Commissioners uh we bring to you tonight
for the replacement of the LC standby generator the generator at the Sheriff's
Office and now1 facility has exceeded its aspected lifespan has and has become
increasingly unreliable frequent malfunctions and the
rising cost of repairs have prompted us to explore numerous replacement options
the sheriff's office has looked at the sheriff's ass Sheriff's Association
Statewide Co-op purchase program for the generator and we've reached out to a
local vendor to do the installation the generator is
$65,625 and the local installation is $26,670 that would come from the general
fund if there's no questions we ask for it to be
approved how old is the generator the current generator is over 15 years old
and how much has been spent in the last year on repairs if roughly around 3500
but the issue is the Standalone fuel tank that goes with this generator is
like your old old drum we're really needing to get it upgraded where we have
a you bigger add bigger slab and the generator on top of the fuel cell that's
one of the main issues that is causing some of the problems with the generator
is that we've had it cleaned and we've had it
um the fuel we've had it cleaned as well and it's new but it's the old oil style
old oil style drum that's on the ground and it's been there
for I mean it to me it was there before I don't know I I've been here 5 years
but the the fuel cell seems to be like it was there before the generator was
honestly but I don't know who could ask that question who would answer that
question well how expensive would it be to replace that
component that we didn't explore that because it was already having issues
with the generator through the system with the sludge that went through it and
we we with the age of it and this generator is our 911 backup center
protectant for the when LC has moved out there our 911 Center will stay there as
a backup center during problem times and we really didn't want to piece it we
wanted to go
full scale I guess you'd say is it possible that we could get a less
expensive backup for those hypercritical
functions um because we've just approved a great expenditure for facility for law
enforcement yes this is the cheapest uh option is going through the Sheriff's
Association to purchase the generator and and have a local vendor do the
installation the other bids were over
$100,000 would that generator be able to be repurposed to the new law enforcement
center the current generator is possible that it could be repurposed
um but it would take a I'm talking about the new one the well the 911 backup
center will be in the current LC so we need a appropriate generator to fully
power the facility so the 911 backup center that's correct yes so we'll have
two 911 centers we'll have a primary site and a backup site we currently have
that now with the backup being at the EOC and is a state
mandated General statute that we have that is this going to be a budget
allocation for law enforcement are y'all splitting this with EMS and Fire
for budgetary purpos budgetary purposes this was originally set in for
facilities that is correct back to the general fund that
correct I'm sorry I said that again money not used we were notable to
execute last fiscal year so the money that was unused rolled over into the
general fund so we're oh oh so this was a budget item from last year okay I got
you that it was budgeted yes okay but not was it budgeted for this past budget
that we've just approved No Ma'am why not we
were the best way to describe this we've reached out to several vendors and
waited for them to respond and they're they have not responded in a timely
fashion so it's caused us to reach out to other vendors who still did not get
back with us so that's why we're having to peace meal
purchasing the generator but but you didn't plug in this item into your
budget I can't [Music]
remember this was not a carry or we did not you didn't carry it out all
right last year's money how much went back
in what I think we budgeted 80 I'm sorry I think it was 80 around
88,000 that was budgeted for it so the money's there the money's there yes sir
fund for that and he's got to have a new that's
correct so generator 65,8 75 and installation expense of
26,00 640 that's correct yes
ma'am any other questions if not is there a motion for
9.10 I make a motion to approve second I have a motion to Second all those in
favor raise your right hand thank you thank you thank you thank
you see if we can use that in the new
facility put wheels on it uh discussion there is I think the
manager has a discussion item that we aren't going to discuss yes sir chairman
George um just wanted to give the board an update the North Carolina Association
of County Commissioners will be hosting their District 4 caucus on July 22nd at
9:00 A.M on Zoom um District 4 comprises new han County Pender County Columbus
County and Brunswick County um we will participate in this caucus the caucus
will address the selection of District director for the 2024 2026 term the
current District director is Mike Forte of Brunswick County um each County on
the call will receive one vote for the county um it is up to the counties to
determine whether to follow a specific rotational schedule currently that is
not the case um just to give you um go ahead the uh just the last thing the
roles and duties for the district director are as follows uh once a year
um we will be required to host a district director meeting County um
distribute a quarterly newsletter to County Commissioners in their districts
and last uh present recognitions to the boards in the different
districts so Pender County hasn't held that the seat since 2016 yeah so in 2016
Mike Forte uh we had were doing it on a at a
rotation it was um Pender new Handover Brunswick
Bladen um dup and in dupin and uh when when we came up there was nobody in
Pender that wanted to sit on that board no I'm sorry Mike Forte was uh selected
for Brunswick in 2016 and 2020 there was no one in dupin because it was their
turn in rotation um so uh Mike had support to do
another term um is dupan dup's not I mean Columbus right Columbus Columbus
yeah so um I'm sorry I misspoke good but I would strongly suggest that we Pender
get back in the rotation and have a representative
um to to be involved in the district so I asked Mr manager to research and he
has um like 20 2016 it's a two-year term
whoever gets it is two years two or it's two every two years hasn't had it since
2018 when George Brown was the last one count that's correct that's right
um and then Mike Forte had supposed and then 20 they didn't do it or something
there was a something was weird but Rob zapple has sent out fers he's from the
count looking for Support also so we need to decide if we if it's something
we want to try to get in the rotation now it should be our turn I think the
way looking at the past schedule but several years it didn't actually go
through the actual one two three it went one two 4 and five you know it bounced
around so it's up to the board what we want to do here so let me just suggest
this since we will have a new relatively new board Rob zapple I've worked with
him on Lower cap fear I've worked with him on other projects I found that he's
capable and able um if we would kick support to Rob
sapple and then maybe have a Pender County representative ready to step in
after new handovers two years is what I would suggest is he and I haven't looked
to see if he was if he was up for reelection also I think you see see that
was my concern about the only the only one that would be on you know be
eligible on this board and not have to worry about rotating off would be Mr
Groves he's he's the only one that's guaranteed to be here um in
December um but I had the same thought you know if it if he's going to rotate
off I'd hate to cause another Gap try to say we're going to we're going to split
the split it up where whoever got to come off they don't get reappointed in
December I would just assume it stay at our board at our turn right and one of
the five of us take it and and and I would do it but of course I'm going off
the board in December so um I would strongly suggest that we not allow this
to fall into a situation where Brunswick continues right uh to to provide that
representation so so what I would like to do is at the conference at the call
is look at the list look at who puts their name forward and see who is going
to be actually be there you know that's nobody's guaranteed to see nobody's
guaranteed the next day the next minute I don't want to put someone in
there and and the term does that make sense to yall
yes so somebody who wants to really do with Mr manager is he has agreed he is
going to be on that conference it's open to all of us um I think it's also open
to Lexi I think you're you have invite to it I think too
um so is that agreeable with everybody we'll see who actually put your name
in and work to get in rotation I will I will not be on the call unless you
specifically want me to be if you two were going to be on it but I'm thinking
that that would be the way to go okay I will be on the call shair I have all
intentions of being but I have to make sure I'm where I can be and the if you
can't let me know and I will be and the intent is you want the rotational
schedule to return yes yeah I'd rather yeah get back in the in the flow
somehow I have no issues with nominating Mr Gro I
mean he wants
it that's up to him if he's willing to to do that he's the only one of the five
of us that will be do yeah okay so we'll
nominate thank you sir and then I know this isn't on the
discussion item but we do need to um be thinking about a delegate for the the
state conference um will all need to be voted on at the August 5th meeting um so
if you're going to the state conference we'll need to pick a delegate
at that is I can do yeah I would like to be considered
unless someone else wants to so we put that if we can put that on the agenda
for the
auge is that it Mr manager on that yes sir appointments reappointment to The
Advisory Board of Health yes so Frank Perez has applied for your appointment
to The Advisory Board of Health for the public member position he has currently
served one term that position expired at the end of June uh he has a good record
attendant or good attendance record uh for the board and he is recommended for
reappointment um should you vote reappointment his new term will be July
1st 2024 and it will go through June 30th
2027 I have served with Mr Perez and I have found him to be an excellent board
member and brings a lot to the table so I would strongly recommend it yeah you
to I've known Mr pre over 30 years and worked right alongside him in law
enforcement and he's in the audience tonight he's a good
man okay motion to approve motion to approve
second I have a motion to Second all those in favor raise your right
hand um congratulations Mr Perez
appointment of Surf City [Laughter]
PL pointment to the Surf City planning board um so the Surf City planning board
uh signed a passed and signed a resolution on June 4th
2024 uh finding Mr Gregory k Caine qualified for the appointment and
approving his application upon the appointment uh from you to be their
extra territorial jurisdiction member on their planning
board uh in the agenda packet I have attached the resolution along with his
application as
well there's any questions or concerns about well um about this appointment
to the Surf City planning board if not is there a motion to accept the
appointment motion to accept Motion in a second all in favor
raise your right
hand County Commissioner appointment to the tourism Development Authority that
one's pretty much what you just said um following the departure of EX
commissioner Wendy Fletcher Hardy the board now has a vacancy um
we need to fill
that is there anyone that would like to be on that
board I do have everybody's boards if you wanted to look at that just to see
what everybody's already got on their plate do youall want to look at the
boards I do not have a board you like that he does not have any boards
currently great okay they have a new is there is there a motion to approve
commissioner Burton to the county commissioner
second motion I have a motion in a second all those in favor raise your
right hand congratulations congratulations
they meet 15 times a [Laughter]
month I'm just kidding said y'all meet 15 times
ath so there's nothing list under any of the water districts so I'm assuming we
don't have any business pen County Board of Health has
nothing listed nor the Social Services Board items from the county
attorney well is he on there Trey yes do you have any
it I just uh request for closed session uh item three attorney client item four
Economic Development item five potential acquisition of real property and item
six
Personnel thank you sir County manager no sir I do not have any updates
assistant County Manager I do not no thank you sir commissioner newon um yes
a couple of things I had some conversations uh earlier this week uh Mr
manager that I'm going to need some staff time and and uh assistance with um
other agencies with regards dredging of the Northeast cap field River we've got
some dangerous as I understand it situations out there locally where the
buildup and the silt has gotten to the point where we've got you know really
big logs and debris clogging up the river which make it a danger for um
boating and motorist um boating and boat traffic
so um you I think Daniel had some
conversations about this as well as uh Jason so perhaps yes ma'am be happy have
a meeting just let me ask some sometimes that work through schedule and can get a
staff meeting set up thank you um also um we have a board opening uh at Novant
uh nant hospital here in burgal um I am on that board as a citizen and
uh we have a uh opening for a chair um a board of commissioner uh representative
on that board um but uh and that was vacated by Wendy but
Randy also is employed by so maybe that's some conversation that we might
need to have um but just wanted to remind us that we've got that board
vacancy um and we need to fill that and we need to fill it we can't wait to the
new board uh not I would PR I would prefer not um so but that's a
conversation um also I have been advised um that there is going to be a
public meeting heads up public input meeting uh at Pender
Auditorium uh conducted by Pender County utilities on our
421 Corridor water issue Monday July 29th from 6: to 7:30
p.m. um and there will be some some uh information exchange and it's very
important that concerned citizens attend this meeting um we'll have updates on
the Highway 421 waterline extension and have an opportunity for public comments
and questions uh so thank you director colog for setting that up uh and that's
all I have thank you thank you commissioner mcco I'm good
commissioner Burton um just a t a couple of things for the record um earlier when
Mr Eaton came up and spoke in reference to um his living arrangements um I I
spent a considerable amount of time on on the phone with him the other day
because when um when I'm called I answer the phone and I uh my heart goes out to
him and his family and I think moving forward it'd be a good time to Let's uh
unlock the cabinet where common sense is and let's talk about some development in
the in the new Udo about um having a case by case basis
moving forward where some of these folks won't have any problems um and second
thing is um myself and I think chairman George has had some
uh heightened discussions with um some folks on the Eastern side of the county
in reference to the water and I'm hoping that we're
on top of that as as our as our water folks are oh you talking about the
Carolina water no we're talking about our system I'm talking about Brown water
in our system and we just we just voted to raise their rate and I understand
that because it's been 10 years and it was needed I understand that but when
you raise somebody's rate and then they got brown water in their toilet it it
ain't good line out I'm I'm not sure this one
particular has been going on since the neighborhood Inception of the
neighborhood since wind water was put in so it's not a new thing so it's not
Carolina size so but I do think they're working on that and I think they're
addressing some of those citizens I just wanted to get that on the record for the
folks that are going to be watching on TV thank you so much that's it that's
good for me Mr gr uh just want to Echo what Mr Burton said about Mr Eaton I Al
I went out to his
home the man wants to die in his camper right there he just wants to die he's
got a place he wants to be buried right there and I think we should give him the
opportunity to die in that camper if that's what he's asking and the second
thing is the maples corner light uh caution light and the speed limit I'm
not going to leave M corner alone until we get a stop light all there so and I
know um Daniel has been working on that um and several others um but what they
did this week is not the answer writing tickets on 421 is not the answer the
answer is to um put up a stop light and um and will that stop everything
from happening no but we had two recently and
um I just want the Daniel and the rest of you to stay on the do until we get a
light and that's all I had and I'll be brief so this past week
uh me commissioner Burton he was there we attended the groundbreaking for the
American Legion um building in Hamstead that was exciting they they're finally
getting a home after all these years so that was exciting to be there and
witness that it's actually on a piece of property that when I ran around on and
actually have a dog buried there I lived on that piece of property that is going
on so was pretty neat to be there is on Peanut Road it is between Peanut Road
and two10 it's on that little pie shaped parel we we redistricted it for Mr Gro
brought up an important issue about the um traffic situation at how we 421 in
Maus Corner um the county has done an excellent job of uh communicating
through social media and other means of the uh request from the dot for input on
projects there's a link that um our communications director sent out a
couple of times if you can go to that link um that project is on there and
they those projects are scored by comments um that's how they get funded
is the one of the one of the many reason ways it gets funded gets moved up and
scored is through public comments and public need um so I encourage everyone
that has there's several projects in Pender County there's nowhere near as
many projects in Pender County as there are surrounding counties but all the
projects in Pender County are important so I encourage people to go to that
website and that link that Brandy you still still up right
yeah still so I encourage people to go to
that website do the comment um and let's try to get some of our
projects scored we're competing against new han County Columbus County and the
other ones in division
three and finally the website I don't know if youve anyone you've had a chance
to visit the website is a refreshing um new addition to the county it is very
easily to navigate and um I appreciate the hard work that was done to get that
where it is now I can't wait to check that out I quit
going you can go right to the home pagee right on the front page you ain't
got to look for it good deal thank the the gis improvements are
really nice too so there's no other do we have a
motion to go into close sessions for yeah I'd like to make a motion to go
into close sessions for item three attorney client privilege item four
Economic Development item five acquisition of real property and item
six Personnel is there a second second all those in favor raise your right hand
we're now in close session we'll be back in session at 7 p.m for the public
hearing thank y'all for
coming
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who is the second um M okay sorry who's the first Mr B beautiful thank
you we are now in public hearing special use permits zoning map amendments and
resolutions 2.
21.1 Mr Brantley yes sir the the first case on the
agenda um this evening staff is requesting we continue this case uh
there there was a a minor issue with the public notice motion to
continue there a second second all those in favor raise
your right hand thank you very good the second case on the agenda uh and I was
just speaking with Mr Thurman about this um this is for a revision to a special
use permit for the industrial park that's known as the Commerce Park um
there was a question about uh would this have any impact on uh the 65% threshold
in the Property Owners Association and it was a little bit unclear so we're
going to request to continue this as well to be sure that we're squared away
on that motion to continue I have a motion is there a second second second
if if the board doesn't mind I would just like to to introduce a couple of
folks who came for this case um this is Phillip McCardell uh with Philip leing
um and SP Spinx uh who's helping on this
project as well and and um the the county may recall that the 15 Acres that
was originally part of the Commerce Park was sold to Philips Leon and toe so um
both of these folks have been great to work with and and uh I just wanted to
acknowledge them that they've showed up this
evening very good thank you both thank you for coming before we move on um so I
have that Vice chair Newton made the motion
commissioner Burton seconded I did not know how everybody else voted though we
didn't all those in favor of continuing till next month raise your right hand
beautiful thank you sorry I forgive you so it's Phillip's Towing is that the
big toe the big the big trucks the big tow trucks I believe
so perhap is that the big tow
trucks yes she
do and yeah I was just speaking with them and it sounds like they they've got
an exciting project and and offer a lot of support to the county they've been a
great partner to the county in a lot of projects that I wasn't aware of until
just five minutes ago so just wanted to acknowledge
that maybe we'll save that for for later yes sir yes sir so I'm clicking this one
record time here 21.3 resoning request request to reone
one partial total in approximately 0.41 Acres from PD de plan development zoning
District to RP residential performance zoning District yes sir thank you this
is the last case on the agenda it's a general use rezoning the County Planning
Department is the applicant and CMH homes Inc doing business is Clayton
Homes is the owner of the property the the property is about 410 of an acre and
as you said Mr chairman it's currently zoned PD and the request is to rezone it
to RP or residential performance the vicinity map is is in
place here just to give you an idea of where the property is it's about a
quarter mile southeast of the intersection of Sloop Point Loop Road in
Co Drive in Hampstead as you can see on the zoning
map the purple is the PD dis District it's currently zoned PD as is a majority
of the property to the North and then further west whereas a lot of the
property South immediately West and further east is zoned RP or residential
performance this aerial is at least a couple years old and it shows that the
property itself is undeveloped I have a couple photos of the property now um
that show that it's been cleared and there's been a mobile home placed on the
site but but you can see a lot of the property around it is developed as
single family residential um or undeveloped at this
time so these are some photos of the site taken a few weeks ago so to orient
you the photo on the left is standing on coal Drive facing the property and then
the photo on the right is standing in the driveway facing towards Co
drive and then the photo on the left here is uh standing on sloot Point Loop
Road looking down coold Drive the photo on the right is basically standing on
cold Drive looking back up towards Sloop Point Loop Road at the subject property
so just to give you some perspective of the site may I ask a
question yes
ma'am you said the intent of the residential performance district is to
allow for a variety of residential uses densities and limited commercial
activities as well as Agri tourism why would we want to do a
resoning and not do a special use uh
there's and the reason that I asked the question is because limited commercial
activities and Agri tourism AGR tourism doesn't seem consistent with commercial
normal commercial activities they could you know have an animal farm out there
why would why wouldn't we want some kind kind of control which a special use
would give us Agri tourism would actually be Exempted in zoning District
if there's the Bonafide Farm designation so um the the likelihood of this
property due to its size qualifying for a Bonafide Farm designation which would
allow Agri tourism is very minimal yeah that was alarming I it says as well as
AGR tourism so we don't uh why as a matter of of of of common
practice why wouldn't we use a special use that we could control and limit
usage on rather than do a resoning it is my question and might in in general uh
that that might be a better route forward
um uh to to be specific about this exact situation a permit was issued that
permitted a mobile home on this property um and mobile homes are not permitted in
the PD District so we're trying to correct a mistake that was made oh I see
I go you yes ma'am all right um I will note that the majority of commercial
uses in the RP District do require a special use permit so if someone was
going to come back maybe not for Agri tourism per se but for some other
commercial use it would likely require a special use permit so why is that
trailer already there if it's the the a permit was issued and it
wasn't caught until and that was our mistake that was
a planning department mistake that's right yes ma'am see my opinion this is
my opinion and I don't want to know how things work that whole
street has this type of house on it why it ever got rone from RP or ra or
whatever it was before to plan toot element I don't know the rest of it in
my opinion on that same on cold drive that's still PD should all be RP way the
the next person that wants to put on the next lot the side of it don't have to go
through this whole and that's it's like when they
rezone and when they made zoning districts they just
went and wherever the paint bomb landed is where it was I mean I'll give you an
example right across the road from that is a is a farm
field right right it was farmed up until last year it's Z RP not ra RP right down
the road as a continuation of that same farm that was farmed up until last year
it's General business still a farm still a field still about still have forces in
it still own by the same people still owned by the same people so when we did
the zoning Maps we kind of just closed our eyes and do the bombs so these
rezonings are generally an effort to to correct those types of
issues right but we're doing it one piece at a time you know you've seen
this property it's going to be that kind you know this is what that original
subdivision was built for was manufactured homes right and now these
people are having to go through technically they the next guy
can't even get a permit he's going to have to go through all this nonsense
before he can even and that's something that we've actually KN when that a track
is is done in error we should fix it before wouldn't it be easy to go ahead
and do a blanket fix if we know that's what this community is lending itself to
while why wouldn't work there's um sometimes it's difficult to get a hold
of multiple property owners uh and in this case we were trying to be as
expeditious as possible for this this homeowner yes ma'am
yeah that's it but that's something that we have talked about uh Clayton Holmes
is interested in doing more work on this road so trying to avoid a situation like
this they be the petitioner that were doing this for if they
own the properties they have an interesting structure on the way they
and and I may be misstating that I I've been talking to them a lot and I think
they're listening this evening so I'm their ears are certainly ringing but a
lot of times the way they or at least in this case the way they structure the
deal is an individual bought the property and then uh basically
contracted with Clayton Holmes to put that property or to put a mobile home on
that property uh so Clayton holes has some sort of ownership stake in that
property and then we'll basically sell it back to the owner I could be botching
that um but that was sort of my rough grasp of how the ownership structure
works and again if there's another parcel that's similarly situated as the
one we're here today for then the manufacturer if there doing this for
consumers if they're selling them the lot so they'll have something to put a
lean against shouldn't they be conveying a properly um designated
parcel yes ma'am and that's something that we've talked about um is is looking
at some some of these other properties along this road and potentially rezoning
them um well I think it would certainly be easier rather than one by one tying
up our staff and our time to make that that change so I'm I'm on your side and
I'm on your side so um it just doesn't it seems to me that they ought to go on
the offense with this yes ma'am absolutely small Lots each about a half
acre that's a big little less than that that's like three times the size of
a regular lot Hamad thank you for your speech that's
not an exaggeration sir if you could get DEQ and and U Raleigh
at the state level to speed up on some stuff we'd be gladly appreci I'm sorry I
didn't mean to interrupt no problem no problem interrup yeah and I'm sorry I
didn't mean to run that rabbit I just didn't understand what we would doing
here I know and I I my radar was going off I anticipated that might be the case
I should have given you some some fair warning that's all right um I can go
through the remainder of the slides but you've basically gotten the
point the planning board did recommend approval
unanimously and then there's a consistency statement on the screen if
the board would like to use that when making a
motion we've heard the presentation from staff they are the applicant so there is
no public comment or signups on there's no public com is there any questions if
not is there a motion who yours motion for approval it is in my district but I
can't make a motion I'll second it have a motion he need to I guess read it for
the record whether um page to approve that the motion to
approve uh make a finding that uh the proposed resoning is consistent with
Pender 2.0 comprehensive land use plan set approval is reasonable and in the
public interest and furthers the goals of the Pender 2.0 comprehensive land use
plan because it is consistent with the following policies and goal as noted in
the staff report you got all that Lexi policy 5.1 V policy 5.1 W and goal
5.8 and that is my motion there a motion is there a second so I have a motion and
a second all in favor raise your right hand thank you yes sir thank you and
that that's it for uh land use hearings this evening thank you Daniel and thank
you for earlier today for taking that meeting and helping get that matter
resolved yes ma'am no problem thank you motion to adjourn there's a motion
to adjourn happy birthday