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worked in our favor so that by the time
we got over the hump and actually

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started talking about how much money we
needed to borrow, the interest rates

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were lower. So then we had the
conversation about do we take the loan

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over 20 years or do we take the loan
over 15 years because the interest rates

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have made the payments so that we can
pay it off in a shorter amount.

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So then we worked through the
construction process to try and reduce

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costs further as much as we could.
Obviously we didn't hire a project

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manager. We did it internally.
Um we met weekly during design uh with

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the firefighters at lovely works and the
design team to keep them up to date and

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we use collaborative decision making
with the end users so that they got the

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most practical facility for them. Um we
were also able to identify multiple

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opportunities through design and
construction to improve the

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functionality and decrease cost. Some of
these things are like the recycled

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aggregate

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So save a pile of money with no hotels
and no travel costs because we use only

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one. So everything was spread here in
America

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budget things like the mechanical
mechanic bay which has been used every

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single day since that shop is open and
saves I think on three different trucks

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now it's probably saves $6,000
just kind of doing the work and parts

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instead of showing
Uh, additionally we put lighting on the

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east end to illuminate the dog park and
that was part of an ad value. We already

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had light holes and we already had
standard but

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facing one direction
in things like that. And then another

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big one is the deep services. So the
water and sewer actually enter our

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building on the south side and so we
could have terminated those services

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there but we ran them all the way to the
end of the parcel so that on future

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growth we'll have those services
available and we have to redig it up and

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we put it in. We're already excavating
on something that building on it at the

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time and so it costs money but it saves
us time.

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uh and then the aggregate storage.

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So final costings the land and
acquisition and servicing uh cost 1.5

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million change.
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construction utilities contingency and
all the services added. So that's your

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gas going in your power your services
internet uh was 8.7 million. And so the

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total project costs 10.2. We estimated
12 million originally. Uh this project

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ended up 96,000 under the construction
budget that we signed with builders

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um and 1.7 million under the original
total project cost estimate. And so that

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with interest rates and everything else
lowered our venture requirement by 2

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million.
So that 10 million uh

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213 is broken down uh like this. So we
used $4 million in reserves. As uh Sean

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just mentioned, the 5.5 maximum
dementure is now 3.5.

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» Uh we received grants uh for $2.2
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uh 1.9 from the federal government,
252,000 from the federal government. Um

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and then of course we have the sale of
the um pool fire hole.

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And so if you did the math on this one,
this is your your 10 million 2134275.

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And so by utilizing our own staff to
manage this project and through what I

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consider an ex exceptional partner in
Scott builders, they're amazing to work

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with. uh we were able to deliver a
facility that is more functional, more

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efficient and better prepared for future
growth than originally envisioned. Most

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importantly, we achieved these
enhancements while bringing the project

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in under budget, demonstrating both
strong fiscal responsibility and

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long-term value.

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So, the successful completion of this
facility strengthens the town's ability

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to respond to emergencies, maintain
public infrastructure, and continue to

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provide a high level of service to the
community for years to come. I think

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» a lot of other companies I think
construction wise would have tried to

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squeeze out that that last 96,000

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» questions
>> questions here.

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I uh I will say I noticed when we had
the open house uh something I mean

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obviously everybody was there be even
with pride as as they should be. Uh it's

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I I know you guys put a lot of work into
getting that where it is and but I did

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notice we did have Inisvale and we had
Red County uh services that were there

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checking out our building as well. Um
has there been any ideas for other tours

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because I'm sure we can't be the only
municipality. I know when we were

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looking at this building, you went and
toured a whole bunch. Do we have others

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that are lined up to check our building
out now?

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» Yes, we do have a couple municipalities
that come in in the fall to tour uh the

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building and we've also done the new
county wav as well, right? And they're

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already starting to junction. City of
Oklahoma will be coming in the next

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month.

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» Councelor Crannberg,
>> uh just a comment. I know we like didn't

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hire out like a project manager to do
this for us or to do all the planning or

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all the things. You guys did your own
research. You looked into what was

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needed.
That cost would have been huge to to add

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to the plate. And so I just want to
recognize that when you guys did that

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internally,
not only did you save the project money,

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but that's added to your job typical
dayto-day for everybody. So there's a

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reason that cost would have been would
have been large and that's because it's

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not an easy task. So kudos to you guys
for pulling that off on an otherwise

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already busy schedule because I don't
think we recognize necessarily that

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enough. So thank you.
>> It definitely went.

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» I wasn't going to say it, but [laughter]

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» uh anybody else? Councelor Mueller, just
more of a comment. Um when I got on

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council in 2017, I know this was part of
the strap planning and their dream would

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build um it fairly quickly because it
it's a huge uh project for a community

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of our size. But uh kudos to the team.
Um when you look at the numbers of

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having a $10 million project and having
three and a half million in venture, I

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think that's a very very good balance to
have you know the debt load versus what

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we have in reserves and then other just
money we did with the land purchasing

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session. Um, and as well, I think most
of us are aware, we see in other news

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releases from other municipalities that
are building facilities, they're

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building just the firewall and it's
going to cost the $20 million public

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facility and all of the other storage
spaces and and the other coal storage

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building and then the list of mods to
what we value add to that building for

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50 years to come. Great work. I'm very
very pleased with that. Sure.

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speaking on behalf of council on that
and they or might not talk more about it

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but I think we're very very happy with
the results [clears throat] but this

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project got started when you start
working this three years ago four years

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ago now
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» the day I got hired

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so long path to get here but I follow

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» I just want to appreciate your your
forethought [snorts] in building what

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you did uh because you're looking into
the future and this is going to uh carry

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us through for many more years to come
here and I'd just like to know if you

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designed your own avatars uh for good.
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» I did not.
>> No, you this building is going to be the

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envy of a lot of other communities and
uh we should be very proud and you guys

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should be very proud of yourselves.
>> Um yeah, thanks very much everybody.

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Thanks for putting this together. I I'm
just wondering if we can do like a

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simplified sort of one one page version
of this to share with the public just uh

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like a by the numbers type thing.
>> Um I think there's there's some people

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in the community that I think would be
happy to see it.

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» And I think it's good for us to show off
a little bit too because I think you

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guys did a great job.
>> Yeah.

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» Thank you very much.
>> Good job.

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» Uh okay, you guys are good. You're done.
Moving on. 6.1A monthly accounts for

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online payments [clears throat] from
July 23rd to August 20th.

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Any questions that were not answered
here? Council member Densson.

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» Uh yeah, just one. Um number 0032,
um the South Red Deer waste water, uh it

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was at 113,700,
which is just about double what we

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usually see. I'm just wondering if
there's a a reason for that.

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» Uh rain would be
>> that's the Okay.

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» We had exceptionally wet month and there
seem to be a bit of infiltration or

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install that end up happening more than
we expected.

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» Yeah. Okay. No, I was just curious
because there's quite a jump from our

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usual 64,000 to 113,000. So, okay.
Thanks.

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» Okay.
Any further questions?

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Get a motion to approve.

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All in favor?

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6.1B investment statement for month
ending July 31st, 2026.

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[clears throat]
There's no questions here. I will just

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get a motion to approve.
Councelor Cranberg.

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All in favor?
And the last one is the monthly bank

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reconciliation
for month ending June 30th.

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I'll get a motion to approve. Council
Mueller. All in favor?

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» Next is the CEO's report. Mr. Bike,
>> thank you very much. Um I do have a

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short presentation in a moment but I
just touch on a few things just so you

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have a heads up tomorrow night is the
imple night so

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be
able to show there's

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convention is coming up here in a couple
weeks. Um we are

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sort of been asked told that we're it's
our turn to host the regional council

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CEO meetings. We've identified October
the 20th it's going to be held in

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Denver. We have more information coming
up for very near future on that. Uh you

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know edge school division uh we have
four new portables that we put in J

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school. Um there was a fair bit of
discussion going on regarding the

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servicing of the units because there's a
fair bit of

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capacity in those those units. Weren't
sure they had enough servicing in the

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current area which they thought they
were all right. And we had some

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discussion about parking requirements at
the school as well. Those things have

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been addressed. the portables were moved
in and at the time of this report they

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are somewhat placed. My understanding is
they're fully in place tonight um for

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weekend. So so looks like it's coming
about. Uh joint use planning agreement

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is uh getting reddrafted and it's near
completion and this also now includes

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Penhold Wasu Middle School. Hoping to
have that turn to council here in the

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next few weeks. Uh the pen hold school
itself, the old school um there's been

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zero information
of that building

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something supposed to come down last
fall. It's a few coming about

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um offsite levies. We have asked Kaggish
to update our report uh to current

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numbers and we're going to be looking at
sitting down with the developers here

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and uh this fall and start talking about
offsite fees and see where that's going

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to take us and be public consultations
happening on that too as well as well.

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We'd like to get it in place for the
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So that's where we're headed for that.
Uh under development earthwork is now

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completed by North Side at the Melport
development. Um they wrapped it up in

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July 30th. Urban Dirt Works is in right
now. Uh they had the water. They're

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actually tested this past week and it's
all all good. So they're putting their

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deep services in as we speak. They're
doing I think more of the shallow stuff

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now. I think they're doing stormed as of
today, but they hope to be out by the

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end of next week. And then we anticipate
to see a border pading rolling in about

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midsepptember.
So um concern we had um I have to admit

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I'm pleased to see the work is
progressing so quickly because um if

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it's done ball too much down the way we
will see some housing permits as well

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some interest start developing only if
they get in the ground before so so that

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might happen they're hoping that's going
to work. There was some discussion uh

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with uh Apple regarding the rightway
agreement. Um we said we'll get back to

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the one that there's um [clears throat]
regional managers in all these. So we

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just have to have a discussion on that
clarity of two areas that's not loading

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up any

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uh second subdivision application came
in August the 19th. This is forection.

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This is for the uh park area.
Um just want to give you a heads up.

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This isn't finished. It's still um went
back and forth for open this week.

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There's your park layout.
Um you can see at the top there's a

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soccer pitch to put in. And then you got
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right hand corner is your layout for the
u playground structure. you see that a

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little bit more is supposed to go down
further.

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So there's the important thing the
council did ask parking as you can see

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there's 12 stalls going to come off the
end of boulevard here. So they are

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putting parking inside the the park area
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plantings.

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These are your pathway systems. There's
been a little bit of discussion about

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the pathways. Um
I think some of our staff are saying if

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you'd rather see the pathways kept the
same width throughout makes it easier

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maintenance versus one being wider
narrower. So So we've had some

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discussion about that as well.

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Show me a picture. There it is. Here's
the actual picture with plur.

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The only thing that's changing is that
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that um chained um
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» miracle round that is likely replaceable
slide merch

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one that's sitting there. Apparently
there's they've been known to have one

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maintenance issues sometimes kids
getting caught up and getting hurt. So

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we chose we do not want that there.
So that's basically what playground

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structure is. In place of that chain
one, there's going to be a a t

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and will they put the garbage cans in or
will that be putting garbage cans in the

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tables and she's
they'll be that's all part of the

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That's sort of what it's going to be
looking like. There's a few things going

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on. We're still having some discussions.
Um we have um our horiculturist looking

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at it, but they're horiculturist and
what we're sort of leaning towards a lot

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more fruit trees in town versus um some
of the trees that they describe it many

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times on. So we're just um so there's
some discussion happening those

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particular areas. So that should be
wrapped up here shortly.

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Okay. So under administration, any
questions on that?

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I'm just happy we're at least
I'm sure the residents in that area will

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be happy as well. Under administration
July 30th, uh attended a meeting with

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council and Mr. Williams.
Um just to let you know, we did sign an

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agreement for a local mis municipal
initiative program

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that was sent in reference to our
funding for the Mitchell Street storm

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water upgrade.
uh he sent the infant uh FCM agreement

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for tree inventory canopy management
agreement that's signed in fact it's

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our council reps are intermiss ICF
intermissal collaborative framework ICF

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almost [laughter]
we met with county to go over the joint

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agreements and um there's a a number of
agreements it's encompassed into that

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one large agreement so IEP is just sort
of a covering agreement for all the

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other agreements. So we went through all
that spent a bit of time with the ICF

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committee on that. You can see what
I do have a commitment from the CEO from

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your county to sit down and start
talking about some capital costing of

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existing infrastructure. So should have
that hopefully some fall.

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Uh August 14th attended a grand opening
and coming for public service building.

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Upcoming items of interest uh we're
continue to work with Milport to make

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sure housing gets started as quick as
possible and also the park area. We're

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working on the ICF agreements as we
speak like to get that upgraded and

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place as well. uh memorial hall. We're
working towards restoration fundraising

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if the council gives permission to uh
put some funds aside to do some further

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depth investigating which is package
tonight. We will probably pull the

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trigger to get somebody in here ASAP to
start some walls apart to see what it

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looks like. We've already asked the
cadets that's got some storage in the

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basement to have a structure.
So they've moved forward with that.

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Um, we're following a recent matter that
Insil is dealing with right in Canada.

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We have some documentation of that. So,
we're just sort of asking keep us in the

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loop what's happening. So stay with
September the 3rd of our unions

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representatives are going to be coming
out to look at some of our insurance

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strategies.

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Good.

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Um and we're also looking at placing um
funding for Avenue. We had design

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drawings done for Avenue North 42.
Um that was a year ago. We asked update

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the numbers so we can actually get that
information into our transportation if

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not borders cost funding and thank you
to Yaro for up on that.

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Hopefully we'll get some fun to that
role.

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That's my report worship.
[clears throat]

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» Thank you very much. Uh any questions
for the CEO?

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Council Mueller with regards to
CRA challenge there. Have they are there

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anyations to us or maybe soldier to us?
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Um some of the agreements that they're
being challenged on we have similar

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agreements
there with different agencies not all

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one direction but there are different
agencies as well. So um they are

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challenging. So we'll see what comes out
of it. So

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so um I have been in discussion with the
CEO there a couple times

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see how things are going because it is
of interest to us. um that the

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implications are last we can't be the
only misal

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much broader

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coming
>> um thank you I was going to say I know

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we haven't heard anything from the
province can we reach out again um just

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because I we're getting late into the
season and there's been no nothing and

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we're now going to be sitting there with
that boarded up school as you come into

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our town with a gas station that's
closed and it's only a matter of time

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till that's boarded up to is not a nice
look for us, right? When you talk about

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people wanting to invest in our town and
that's what you're met with when you

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come in and there's no reason that after
a year that we've heard nothing from

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them. So,
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they have been questions back to school
division. So, I'm not sure if they'll

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give us an answer. We have grad.
>> Yeah.

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» But we are coordinating
closely with the I'm not sure why it's

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taking so long. Last I heard they had
just waiting to get to Google

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» that would go through um Alberta
infrastructure.

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» Was it
Albert Education who handles the

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» Oh, the demolition.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah. I believe it was Alberta
infrastructure.

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Okay.

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Any other questions? [clears throat]
Motion to approve the report.

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Cunningham.
All in favor?

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Community services report is next.

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Mueller, uh, there was a section there
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ambassadors.

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What what is the potential cost
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for

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the wages

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for the summer? Um

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had was sponsored to I think if I
correct

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and still had sponsorship as well
and not

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sponsor
council wish

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» um it was suggested did I don't know I
mean I know someone I guess said I

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didn't ask but that the the Typer Creek
optimists which are kind of work with

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the group but that they'd be they would
potentially be interested in looking to

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sponsor something like this.

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So, I don't know if that's something we
can follow up with our local optimist

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group anyway.

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But before we do that, I guess is is
there an interest in us um scoring this?

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I I I think it's a good idea
have someone around that area,

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especially over the summer months.
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» mean just to keep an eye on the kids?
>> Be a good role model. Yeah.

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» Stuff like that.
And it wouldn't be a Sorry, worship. I

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was just going to say it's it's not a
full-time position. It's maybe a few

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hours.
>> Yeah.

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» Two, three nights a week type thing. So,
it wouldn't be huge dollars.

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» Be a popular area for youth to go to
community.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Just want to be a positive role

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model for some of the the kids that hang
around there.

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Maybe a bit of a safety net, too. Um
younger kids that want to be there.

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» Yeah.
Yeah, sure.

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» Okay. Uh, any other questions from this
report? Okay.

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» So, may as well we will look for a
motion when we get later down there, but

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» So, you want you don't want the motion
now? Later.

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» No, we can do it later. [clears throat]
>> Um, okay. If there's no other action

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from the community services report, then
I'll get a motion to approve. Center.

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All in favor?

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Fire and protective services report is
next.

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Any questions on this?

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by a bunch [laughter]

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again. I was just going to ask about
where are they going to get the f I

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don't know if I read this properly but
where are you going to get the fuel from

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with the petrol pass like is it still
going to be

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» well I assume it would be the only
petrol Canada is the one just right

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there
>> okay so it's okay

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» I think I think the biggest issue for
fueling those vehicles up is they can't

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fill in can't fit in
Oh, right.

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» Uh, any other questions?

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I'll [clears throat] get a motion to
approve.

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» Councelor Dson. All in favor?
Multiplex report is up next.

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Council Mueller, I'll try to shake up
the group here. Maybe get more comments

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on them. Um
what caught my eye was the uh the

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concession and it's great to see that uh
we're going to have somebody that's

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going to come in and really uh get that
open for us with some options. mostly

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something that a lot of people are
commenting on our facility here that

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there isn't a concession. So, uh hoping
that that will go well.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Happy to have someone.

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Anything else from the multiplex report?
Got a motion to approve.

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All in favor?
Carried. Operations report is next.

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Councelor Densen,
>> is it the town's responsibility for

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cutting the medians uh by the
playgrounds? I'm talking like Hawkridge

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uh Boulevard in that. Okay.
U because it hasn't been cut in a while

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and the weeds and the foxtails are
getting out of hand over there. So, um I

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was just wondering whose responsibility
it was. So, okay. Uh would it be best

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then just to make a report then to uh
public works in regards to that? Okay.

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Any

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other questions here?
Councelor Cunningham?

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» I was just going to say the uh fishing
day. Is that all right to talk about

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that here? Yeah, I guess that would be
the spot to talk about. That looks

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awesome. I'm excited for that for the
kids in town. That'll be really

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exciting. And um
yeah, I think that's what I have there

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[laughter]
just for my notes here.

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Uh, I'll just I don't know if it's um
the the portaotty at the ball diamonds

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was stolen last week.
>> That's a replace it. But [laughter]

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» yeah, somebody uh shortly after they
came and drained it and cleaned it, a

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truck pulled up and with already two
other portaotties

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in their truck, loaded it up and took
off.

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Well, that's a crappy situation.
>> Yeah.

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[clears throat]
>> Well, the group did uh they did replace

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it. They didn't Yeah. bring a new one in
already, but because the ball the ball

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pays for that, but councelor Cunningham.
>> Sorry. The other question I had was,

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yeah, uh has the position for the level
two operator been filled yet? I

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had somebody asked me at the ice cream
shack and I said, I'm sorry. I I don't

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know, but if you want to go look on our
website, it's probably if it's there,

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it's probably still there. So, okay.
Thank you.

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» All right. Uh if there's nothing else on
operations, I'll get a motion to

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approve.
Councelor Crannberg,

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all in favor?

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Moving on to new business,
we will start with the uh Redu County

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request for participation and a regional
recreation facility inventory study.

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Uh did you have anything to um worship?
This was a

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request from Brighter County. um this
funding is only available when you got

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multiple municipalities involved and um
I'm I'm happy that they are reaching out

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to wanting to work with us on a
particular grant project. So um we're

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all on board with this philosophy and
move forward to put this funding

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together and move on this project. Um
the last one we did is is a growth study

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as you probably seen in our our public
services our protective services

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managers report. Um we are part of a
larger regional funding as well for that

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particular uh grant as well. So Alberta
community partnership program we have to

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have it in here before the end of
October. So um we if council is

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accepting supporting it we will advise
for your county that we be happy to be

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part

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and any comments here. [snorts]
>> I think all of this is going to tie into

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ICF discussions. Um, so it's important
to be a part of this and it's important

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to identify which
uh which buildings um the county will

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classify as recreation facilities and
how they classify that. Councelor Giski,

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following that logic here, I will make a
motion to adopt as administration

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recommends and sign us up for this
regional recreation facility inventory.

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She got an acronym for that. Aging?
Yeah.

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[laughter]
>> Okay. Councelor Giski, let's make a

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motion.
>> Oh, sorry.

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» All [clears throat] in favor?

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And Memorial Hall next steps is item
7.2. [clears throat and cough]

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» Uh, the worship. I'd like to say this
one is equally as expensive as the last

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one because the last one doesn't cost us
anything. This one does cost some money.

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Um but we are asking to proceed with the
uh a little bit of more in-depth

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analysis on the memorial hall to
determine uh what work has to be done

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and that way we can get the committee up
and running to get some specifics as to

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funding purposes what they may have to
go after or we'll determine the fal

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state of the correct
>> either way we will have a much better

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idea what we serve we have two walls so
we are asking that we proceed with this

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uh we have we were suggesting thing is
we have the engineer on site with

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contractor work with the walls.
will be done together report as to what

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the recommendations is if it's not too
costly the foundation

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we'd like to also look at the drafters
well there's a sway in that

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so if foundation is too costly but the
graers so you have a good in-depth

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report in this budget

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» um I would just say like I'm I'm all for
that because I you um definitely need to

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make sure we're spending money correctly
with this building. But um I would also

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like to say that if with the committee
we should also send an invite to county

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um so that uh you know if they're
talking about uh facilities and stuff

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like that and that way there's no way to
say that they've not been literally on

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the ground floor with us for funding
with this building.

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If it ever comes that way, I don't know.
But, you know, hopefully there's grants

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and stuff and we wouldn't have to reach
out, but

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just any

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council,
>> just briefly, do we know if that

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property line for the fire hall, which
we no longer own, does that go right up

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to the Memorial Hall building?
>> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that if

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we're going to get in there, we get in
there before he does put up his fencing.

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if we're going to trench in there
because that's more cost that we would

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have to repay.

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Um further questions here, the only
thing I'd like to add is I I do think we

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need to move on this with um we had a
large number of people sign up to be a

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part of this
sub committee that form or something.

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I've already gotten quite a few um phone
calls or people stop me to ask what's

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happening with that because they put
their name up and want want to be a part

429
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:45,200
of something to to well save the hall I
guess would be their preference. So I I

430
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,280
do think it's important when you have
people u wanting to be involved in

431
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:53,839
something that we don't make them feel
like they're being ignored. So we do

432
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,400
have to get some information out there
and get in touch.

433
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:02,320
We we had sent out an email I think last
week just to give them a heads up that

434
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,880
uh we are doing this and we're hoping to
get committee start meeting with

435
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:11,040
committee by the end of September.
Perfect. So we are pushing hard to get

436
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,520
the report back.
Awesome.

437
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Okay. Uh at this point I'll look for a
motion to approve.

438
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,839
All in favor?

439
00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:27,000
outstanding business.

440
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:33,359
Ah, there was some outstanding business.
Now we'll move on to some outstanding

441
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:36,359
business. Uh, the golf cart pilot
project.

442
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,268
Cam said that. You guys will be
laughing. [laughter]

443
00:40:45,798 --> 00:40:50,400
[snorts]
>> Okay. [clears throat]

444
00:40:49,728 --> 00:40:54,079
» [laughter]
>> So, we do have some uh some additional

445
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:58,000
information on a on a pilot project
here. I appreciate that. Um and a

446
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,480
recommendation that we accept the report
for information at this time and that

447
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:08,160
the town touches base with Silven Lake
later on

448
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:12,160
after after the summer out sorry later
this fall on their summer outcomes to

449
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:19,480
determine if proceed to budget and look
at a similar project for7.

450
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:19,480
Any questions here on the report?

451
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Um
I I can this probably is not priority.

452
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:36,960
So I'm I'm fine.
I do think more information is good. I

453
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,640
think if this if this is something that
that is becomes more common in other

454
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,280
municipalities, I think we need to be
prepared for it. Otherwise, people are

455
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:50,760
just going to start driving off cars
around.

456
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,760
But at this point, I'm happy with seeing

457
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:59,599
with that. If there's no other comments,
uh, I'll get a motion

458
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,079
with the recommendation council.
>> Yes.

459
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:05,560
» Yeah.
>> All in favor?

460
00:42:07,674 --> 00:42:12,800
[clears throat]
Is it further to?

461
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,640
» Yeah. with the recommend with the
recommendation as

462
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,960
» as identified.
>> Yeah. Okay.

463
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,240
» Okay. Moving on to correspondence.

464
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:36,880
Council me. Uh Rick, the letter that we
got from affairs on the LGF and other

465
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,680
funding. Was that the vote you were
accepted or

466
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:46,374
» Yes.
>> Okay. expected, budgeted, and most spend

467
00:42:44,354 --> 00:42:46,374
[laughter]

468
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,560
crossing [snorts] here.

469
00:42:55,839 --> 00:43:02,079
» Rick was thrilled to see that AB Nunis
is going to be sponsoring a portion of

470
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:05,400
the FCM.
That was awesome.

471
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,319
» You get to suggest something to them.
No, I done that with

472
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:27,920
I was going to u about the health
foundation.

473
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:36,480
Are they are you is anybody is he
wanting a board? Is he what he want

474
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:40,960
» to join us?
>> So I have met with Ken. Ken has met with

475
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:45,200
mayors and re this letter went out to
the whole central Alberta Mayor group.

476
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,800
So really they're looking to meet with
mayors or council that they have met

477
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:53,200
with
>> and also what they're looking for is

478
00:43:50,800 --> 00:44:00,800
money not necessarily from the
municipality but if um if a community

479
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:05,680
has you know a a philanthropist in that
might be interested in donating money to

480
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:09,560
this they need money or they want money.
It's sharp picture.

481
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Anything else from the correspondence?

482
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:26,160
Accept information.
Jensen.

483
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:33,040
All in favor?
All right. [snorts] Councelor Mueller,

484
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:36,800
you're up.
Uh last month has been a little bit more

485
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:42,960
quiet for myself. I did have a week
vacation in DC, but uh our very very

486
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:45,599
diligent dog park did meet at the end of
the month. Um one of the few communities

487
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:49,599
that I'm part of that does say it's
super great because the the group that

488
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:54,640
folks that are part of that community
are very vicious and don't want to uh

489
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,960
lose our momentum. They have decided
that they do want to put a float in the

490
00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:03,119
fall festival parade. So that's really
neat. creative and design and want to

491
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,599
just get informationational community
media at large as to what we're about

492
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:14,000
and first days coming forward and of
course we're trying to promote our

493
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:19,760
October 17th poker rally um and as well
we are working on getting that

494
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:24,079
all set up I think we're still working
on a few details but in the next couple

495
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:29,680
weeks we should have something
for that event

496
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:33,680
um but yeah that's mark and then um SR
our team, we have had meetings. We've

497
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:36,680
actually postponed uh our regularly
schedules

498
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:47,040
with the city of Red Deer and we are
having to review them um with the our

499
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:52,240
legal council and have some more inter
discussions. We do have an upcoming

500
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:56,560
meeting with all of the municipal CAOs
um as well coming up in October. So, we

501
00:45:54,160 --> 00:46:01,359
want to make sure we're prepared for
that presentation because again, this is

502
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:05,040
a pretty large
ruling that's come out which is going to

503
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:10,800
have I think potentially some fairly
large changes or the regional lines. Um,

504
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,280
so it's good that if depending on how
things shake out and we need to advocate

505
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:20,560
for
changes that problems that we need to be

506
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:26,880
as a single voice and not have a
surprise one.

507
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:32,400
will be different. So, um yeah, we be we
uh be prepared for board wellness on

508
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:39,040
that as they happen. That's it for me.
Thank you very much, councelor S. Um

509
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:43,440
been pretty quiet for me as well. August
14th, I attended the grand opening of

510
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:49,280
the public service building. What a
wonderful building. And um I was with a

511
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:54,160
couple of ladies and they were just in
awe that the conference room. They're

512
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,560
just like, "Oh, we can't wait to, you
know, you, oh, we can use it for this

513
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:04,079
and we can use it for that." So, we
might get some calls. Um, [laughter] so

514
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:10,480
the the 25th, um, I'll be at the
discovery night, 27th, we're having a

515
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:16,960
ball festival meeting and so
I'm sure they haven't been buying just

516
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:23,920
be going over everything. And I noticed
uh around town when

517
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:27,359
I don't know who did our sidewalks was
that did

518
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:32,319
» so they hang up the sidewalks they've
been giving people's lawns sometimes

519
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:38,000
they put sod in there other times they
just put oh I don't know it's looks like

520
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,000
canola growing along the sides of
people's

521
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,319
now it's like
I think a little more chaos must be

522
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,880
done. And if they're going to do that,
then they should probably come back and

523
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:57,319
fix them. The one that I've noticed a
lot, it's right across from the Jesse

524
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,319
Duck School on

525
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:05,359
and it's like I think they can do a
better job of

526
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,839
» of their facing and finishing up
>> the aesthetics.

527
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,440
» The aesthetics.
>> Yeah. It's It just looks like

528
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:24,400
» Yeah. But if if some if you send them a
letter or something and say like guys,

529
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:30,000
it's got to be a better job than that.
>> My opinion, we'll investigate that. I'm

530
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,880
not sure what the status is, so I can't
comment.

531
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,720
» Picture is worth a thousand words,
right?

532
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:38,440
» Exactly.
>> Yeah,

533
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,440
» that's

534
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:45,280
me. Thank you, Council Gizki. Well,
you're looking at the canola at 147

535
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:51,359
Lincoln Street. That's me doing a little
micro farming and

536
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,800
» um you know what? It's been a quiet
month for me. The FCSS board starts

537
00:48:53,280 --> 00:49:00,880
sitting again two weeks from now. We
unfortunately lost uh Jason Clinic is

538
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:05,680
moving on to uh job fairs at the end of
the month. So, I've worked with him for

539
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:10,240
three years and he's a very good city
staff and he will be missed. Um other

540
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:13,920
than that, um it's my birthday on the
13th. So there really wasn't quite as

541
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:19,359
good of a present from as much of the
well wishers as I got as the new public

542
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:25,274
works building being so good, the event
going so well, and almost everyone being

543
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,274
on time. [laughter]

544
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:32,000
» It's going to be a very good facility
for many years to come.

545
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,359
» I'm sure it was a staffer. Yeah, if
someone's blood pressure went higher,

546
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:41,640
I'll tell that. But that being said,
that's all I have for you.

547
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,640
» Thank you very much, Council Gunny.

548
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:48,640
here. All righty. All righty. Um, so
yeah, we did have the quick meeting

549
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:53,040
there, but the minister uh was short.
Um, I'm glad we were able to get an

550
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:56,319
audience. Um, as I said, I'm glad we
didn't have any issues with Delburn

551
00:49:54,559 --> 00:50:01,599
because we did have to share our 15
minutes, but uh hopefully they'll be

552
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:06,960
able to get back to us um on on our
issues. Um, the ICF, I got to say, what

553
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:11,040
a good meeting that was. Um, sometimes
you go to these things and uh, I felt

554
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,760
really good coming out of it because we
had some direction. We have stuff that

555
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,599
we're going to be talking about and I'm
so glad that our administration is

556
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:22,720
working on it already. So, that's
fantastic. And, uh, sometimes, you know,

557
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:27,839
meetings don't have to be super formal
to be fruitful and I appreciated that.

558
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:32,400
Um, the open house again that was
amazing. Um,

559
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:36,400
what a just what a what a great day for
Penhold. And I was surprised like I just

560
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:41,920
was so pleased with the turnout that we
had too. Like you know all of our staff,

561
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:44,640
the public works staff and fire
department. I know there was people that

562
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:51,119
used to be on fire department that came
there and just it was great. It was

563
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:58,960
really good and uh exciting. So um the
EOE which is the elected officials uh

564
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:03,440
course there um was hoping to uh I am
registered for the land use planning

565
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:09,520
which is uh now pushed back to November
so will not be getting the certificate

566
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:16,640
this year but also I would like to uh
put forward to take the um hiring of the

567
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:21,359
CAO course that is also upcoming also
online. It is not part of the municipal

568
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:26,640
elected um leadership course, but I
would still like to take that course if

569
00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:32,640
uh that's available to me as a motion
afterwards. Uh museum, we've been so so

570
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:36,160
so silly busy. I will say we did have an
impromptu visit from the fire

571
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:39,680
department. Was awesome. I wish we would
have known because we so would have

572
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:45,040
advertised it because man, the kids just
went screaming out there.

573
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:50,559
So, um it was great. We also had a visit
with FCSS. Um, we did a a day with them.

574
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:55,440
We had a day with PYC. It was really
nice to be able to partner and we were

575
00:51:52,400 --> 00:52:00,400
talking about partnering on other things
coming up. So, stay tuned. We are going

576
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:04,400
to be busy over at well, this is our
last week serving ice cream, but we'll

577
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:07,839
be busy over at Jesse Duncan as a part
of their meet and greet from 2 to 4 on

578
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:12,000
Friday.
Uh, the seniors have approached us and

579
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:17,599
they would like us to be part of their
garage sale. So, uh, they would like us

580
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:22,160
there for the 18th, 19th, and 20th. So,
I, uh, have to get a hold of HS to see

581
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:26,079
what that's all about. Uh, huge thank
you again to public works. They, uh,

582
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:31,359
came and dug out the base for us for the
swings as per AHS recommendations. Uh,

583
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:37,040
it looks really great. So, thank you.
And then uh we are hosting the central

584
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Alberta Regional Museum Network Harmon
as they're called uh September 1st at

585
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:48,480
the seniors uh dropin and with a tour of
our museum afterwards. We've booked a

586
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:53,200
fantastic presenter who is going to come
talk our ears off all about bylaws and

587
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:57,520
board rules and really exciting stuff.
But she actually does make it exciting.

588
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:01,520
So we're really we're we're pleased to
be able to share that with these other

589
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:05,599
people. Again, when you go to a meeting,
it's nice to get something fruitful out

590
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:13,040
of it. So, uh we're excited for that.
And um I would say with citizens on

591
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:18,240
patrol, I know we'll be there for the
discovery night. Uh we'll also be there

592
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,760
for the museum uh tomorrow and council.
But I just want to say to our Inisville

593
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:25,359
citizens on patrol, our little neighbors
there that we've partnered with, um they

594
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,599
actually were able to call in a
structure fire the other day um in a

595
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:34,720
trailer park. And as you know, I'm not
sure maybe this is something it was say

596
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:39,440
uh our service manager would let us know
here is it's like 7 minutes for a

597
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,720
trailer to go up. So hopefully that uh
they were able to help save some other

598
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,680
homes in there. So it it does make a
difference for the

599
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:50,400
Thank you.
>> Thank you very much, Densen.

600
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:54,559
» Uh I did it's been very quiet this
summer. It was for me as well. I did

601
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,839
attend the uh ribbon cutting for the uh
public service building and I've already

602
00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:01,599
said my piece and what I think of what
happened there and uh again so

603
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:05,520
exceptional. Uh otherwise I'm looking
forward to getting back into the

604
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:08,559
committees come this fall. So that is it
for me.

605
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:12,720
» Thank you very much Council Granberg.
>> Uh same thing as Council Mueller

606
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:15,680
attended the dog park committee again
probably the only committee that doesn't

607
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:20,880
break over summer. So it's a passionate
group and the goal was to get something

608
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:25,119
seen. I know when you're raising money
or just even spending money, people like

609
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:28,640
to have something seen and so that was
our big thing is to get something in the

610
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:33,760
ground and that's exciting to see. also
at the opening for the fireh hall and

611
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:37,920
again uh kudos to the staff because
council was there uh MLAs were there,

612
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,079
representatives from the feds were there
and just you know we got to sit kind of

613
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:45,920
behind there and cut the ribbon but at
the end of the day um the boots on the

614
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:50,960
ground was you guys and we got to you
know sit up there and cut the ribbon and

615
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:55,359
kind of enjoy that sparkling building
for how long it stays clean like that.

616
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,240
Um, but you guys are owed such a debt of
gratitude. I said it already, but thank

617
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:03,359
you for making us look good on that
project because it was really a diamond

618
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:08,480
uh for our town. So,
>> thank you very much.

619
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:12,400
Uh, okay. Um, I also had some vacation
over the last since the last meeting,

620
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,760
but um
just wanted to do a well, we've done a

621
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:20,000
I've done quite a few fall festival
interviews over the last uh week. So,

622
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:25,839
this is just a reminder for everyone to
to get registered for Mary Marathon.

623
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:30,720
also uh and make your fall festival
plans.

624
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:35,359
Uh a little update on the the ICF
meeting with Redier County because I

625
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:39,200
think it is
important

626
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:43,680
that we are we're going to be working
with the county on this on developing a

627
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:49,280
capital funding agreement that will be
applied to the to every municipality

628
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:54,240
within the county. Um, so I think it's
really it's a good opportunity for Pen

629
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,440
Hold because we're going to be the ones
that are really going to set this up and

630
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,760
the other communities will either love
us or hate us for that. Um, but I I

631
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:06,000
think it puts us in a good spot and I
think it shows the the the trust that we

632
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:11,040
have uh between the two municipalities
to make something work. So there is a

633
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:15,520
few good suggestions, but also we're not
going to sign an agreement until that's

634
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:21,040
that's in there in writing.
I know the county would like to to sign

635
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:27,040
and then say we'll work on these as we
go and I think we're going to stand fast

636
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:34,119
to to not doing that. So um it was a
really positive meeting and the start of

637
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:34,119
some more work to come but probably

638
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:42,164
um I think I'm excited about it. That's
the kind of stuff that

639
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,164
I get excited about. [laughter]

640
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:50,760
» Regional collaboration. Yes. Get you
[laughter] going.

641
00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:50,760
» Get you going.

642
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:58,640
Uh, okay. Um,
yeah. Otherwise, every like FCM has been

643
00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:02,079
fairly quiet. Um, a few random committee
stuff is coming up, but nothing nothing

644
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,160
major.
As far as the public services building

645
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:10,640
goes, I'm really hopeful that we can get
some funding for for that road to pave

646
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:15,440
it. I already have gotten emails and and
phone calls from residents in the Oxford

647
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:19,359
Heights or Oxford Landing, sorry, area.
Um the road is taking a beating just

648
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:24,240
with the increased traffic that it saw
over construction and now with data use

649
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:28,799
on it. So that probably should be a
priority. And other than that, I hope

650
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:35,160
everyone had a great summer. looking
forward to September kicking off and

651
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:35,160
getting back into hygiene. So,

652
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,839
okay. Um [clears throat]
Oh, sorry.

653
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,319
I would like us to Well, let's do we'll
get a motion to accept the council round

654
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:57,119
technical information.
Councelor Sitter. All in favor?

655
00:57:51,599 --> 00:58:02,480
Period. Um and I would like a motion
word this um for administration to move

656
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:07,760
forward on um exploring funding
opportunities for a skate park

657
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:12,640
ambassador program.
Councel Mueller. Okay. All in favor?

658
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:18,559
Great.
>> I also had a a motion there for the

659
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:21,680
hiring of CEO EOE project. Um
>> Oh, right. And that's an online

660
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:26,640
» that's an online one. That's the only
Yeah, it's

661
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:30,079
» okay. Um, so councelor Cunningham would
like that uh be able to take that

662
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:34,839
course.
>> Yeah, it's $295 to do it online.

663
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,680
» Okay. Uh, does someone like to make that
motion?

664
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:43,079
» Make that motion.
>> All in favor?

665
00:58:43,285 --> 00:58:48,079
[laughter]
Okay.

666
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:52,319
» Now we'll move on to questions from the
gallery. Are there any questions from

667
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,319
the gallery?

668
00:58:53,110 --> 00:58:55,130
» [laughter]

669
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:08,480
» My question a few different ways
>> first. Uh just

670
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:15,359
um so my question is is council aware of
how the concerns of taxpayers are dealt

671
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:20,160
with through the town and then conduct
them as well.

672
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:24,079
Um I would say in generally yes of every
specific example I'm guessing probably

673
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:29,760
not. Uh
>> so there was a person was concerned

674
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:34,000
about what was happening here storm
water ponds and that they were being cut

675
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:38,960
down and it's in violation of the
migratory bird act which is a federal

676
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:43,119
legislation and she brought this concern
forward and there was some

677
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:46,640
misinformation spread by the government
of Alberta which has been corrected. Um,

678
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:52,559
I'm pretty sure the town of Pen's
operations received this information as

679
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:58,240
well. But my concern is is when she
brought that concern forward, she left

680
00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:03,119
that conversation with two members of
the town of Pendle in tears. She said,

681
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:09,520
"I will never bring anything forward
again. I will never speak up." Because

682
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:14,559
she was made to feel villainized in the
whole entire situation. And the people

683
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:20,799
that addressed her concern never looked
at the problem she had. All they did was

684
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:25,200
pinpoint why she was the problem. And
this isn't the first time I'm hearing

685
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:29,760
this with in the town of Pentel that
citizens aren't bringing concerns

686
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:33,520
forward because of the way that they are
treated and the way that they're

687
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:39,599
addressed by people in the town of
Pentle. So, I'm wondering if anyone is

688
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:44,079
going to do something to review this and
if these concerns, if they're not going

689
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,799
to be addressed properly by operations,
should be brought forward to you guys

690
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:51,359
directly.
>> Um, yeah, I mean, we can't investigate

691
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:56,480
anything if we don't know about it. So,
of course, yeah, but like if if a

692
01:00:54,079 --> 01:01:02,000
resident has concerns with with how
they've been treated, they

693
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:04,319
for anyone on council, but um I would
say nothing's going to happen if we

694
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:08,240
don't know one. So if we do know about
it then we'll look into it

695
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:11,680
» and it should be done right because the
federal government had reached out and

696
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:16,480
reminded everybody of the migratory bird
act and the fact that these storm water

697
01:01:14,319 --> 01:01:21,520
ponds are protected under the migratory
bird act and cannot be touched through

698
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:26,319
the time frame or anytime that a
migrating bird is seen on those ponds.

699
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:30,400
So that information packages essential
operations. So I'm assuming this won't

700
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:36,480
be a problem going forward. But the
concern is is that she was right and all

701
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,160
she was trying to do was care. She was
trying to get people to understand and

702
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:44,400
ask why do you do this? And instead of
addressing that in a way to understand

703
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,920
that there was a problem, it they
completely villainized her and made her

704
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:52,880
feel horrible and she'll never speak up
again. And it's not the first time that

705
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:59,599
this is happening. So my my biggest
motive is is if the members that serve

706
01:01:56,079 --> 01:02:05,040
the public feel it appropriate to make
the public a prior anytime they have a

707
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:10,480
concern, how do we ever move forward and
what kind of culture does that bring?

708
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:15,760
» Yes. So I I 100% I would encourage them
to

709
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:19,920
» could be that somebody apologizes to her
because they received this information

710
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:25,520
that what they were doing was in
violation on I think it was Wednesday. I

711
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:30,720
had the email. Um so that gave all of
Thursday, all of Friday, and all of

712
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:35,520
today for somebody to say to her, "I'm
sorry. I was misinformed. The

713
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:38,880
information I told you was not correct."
and we should have had a more

714
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:43,119
collaborative approach to solve this
problem together.

715
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:46,240
» Yeah, that that's fair. Like I I know
nothing about

716
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:49,680
» So, but I [clears throat] don't
>> I can't really get into a specific what

717
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,520
what we should have but yeah,
absolutely. The the res if they have

718
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:56,640
concerns, they should reach out to a
member of council.

719
01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:02,400
» Okay. And that's going to be kind of I
know Richard and I have talked um

720
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:07,359
directly and I just feel like the
culture in the town of Penville when

721
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:11,359
people are speaking up or they're asking
for help or they're bringing concerns

722
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,760
they're seeing forward they're often
dismissed they're not followed up on or

723
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:19,920
they're shut off and that's a feeling
that I know from multiple people and

724
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:23,920
even people that are trying to engage
and make the community better and that's

725
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:29,520
coming from you know the local peace
officers as Well, and I just think it's

726
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:33,039
such a shame that this town is great and
can be great, but it's because of the

727
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,799
citizens that live here. And if they're
treated in that way, they're not going

728
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:40,960
to participate. And I know there is a
lot of sour grapes out there. So, I'll

729
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:44,319
let people know that you guys are
willing to hear this and then to kind of

730
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:50,400
bring this forward and they should
expect a change in the mediators to

731
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:55,039
» Yeah. And and I mean I I'd also say like
we never get interactions again. Uh we

732
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:59,920
had a lot of positive interactions too.
So I wouldn't I wouldn't frame it in in

733
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:05,599
the same light and I'm sure there there
are valid concerns but um by and large I

734
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:08,400
I do think that we do a great job of
working with the community. Does that

735
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:12,079
mean we can be better? Of course we can
always be better. And if there's

736
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:15,599
specific examples then we need to know.
And I just think when somebody tries to

737
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,480
bring a concern forward saying, you
know, we should care about the wildlife

738
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:23,359
and I think you guys are in violation of
this. And she leaves the conversation

739
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:27,200
with the 2000 courts members in tears,
feeling small, feeling stupid, feeling

740
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:32,079
like she shouldn't have said anything.
Oh, I guess I was wrong. I didn't know.

741
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:37,359
No matter if she was wrong, she should
never leave the conversation.

742
01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:42,480
» Right? And so no matter what the intent
was, I know what the outcome was. and

743
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:47,520
the fact that she was right after being
treated that way and nobody thought the

744
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:52,680
common decency to apologize.
I think we can do better and I think we

745
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:52,680
owe our citiz

746
01:04:55,984 --> 01:04:58,004
[clears throat]

747
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:06,319
okay. Anything else?
>> Oh, I can go on forever. [laughter]

748
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:10,480
» Thank you very much and thank you for
coming tonight as well.

749
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:13,760
» Oh, yeah. Hopefully this won't be a a
common thing, but maybe.

750
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:17,920
» No, no, but honestly, that's why we have
public meetings. That's why we allow

751
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:22,480
questions from the public, right?
>> We don't know about something, then

752
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:25,520
nothing's going to happen. Appreciate
your time.

753
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:30,720
» I'm glad you said that because I have a
bunch of people approach me to bring

754
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:36,960
this up. Um,
it's the west side

755
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:42,160
there are paying lawn care on fixed
incomes. paying for lawn care. Come get

756
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:47,920
rid of their weeds and all that. And I
have to come here and say, you know,

757
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:54,799
this guy's weeds are 40 high and down
past that corner on flooding. I don't

758
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:59,119
know who owns that. Apparently CP does.
It's a it's a nest down there across

759
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:07,280
North.
It's not like and

760
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:12,000
I but they're they're checked off and
when I went for a walk today I thought

761
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:19,920
yeah they have a valid point. I walk
down those alleys and stuff the houses

762
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:25,280
fine businesses weeds all over. Yeah,
they know that they forgot this corner

763
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:29,280
that has weeds this high and it's a
chronic one.

764
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:33,440
I do know that we're in the middle of a
like the peace officers are going around

765
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,440
doing some enforcement on that right
now.

766
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:44,079
» No, it's the same chronic
>> the ones I'm always going to hear about

767
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:49,520
and like people are saying, "Oh, there's
a double standard going on. Why do we

768
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:54,160
have to look after the alleys and the
businesses don't

769
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:59,920
or is it selective enforcement?" They're
wondering what the heck is going on. But

770
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:05,760
mostly people just comply with the laws,
but they get kind of upset when they're

771
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:12,000
seniors and their yard is their big
thing and they're old and they take

772
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:16,640
pride in their yard things we blowing.
And yesterday in that windstorm that

773
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:22,319
Bob's tales were like a snowstorm on our
side of I don't know where them coming

774
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:25,039
from. I didn't see any in many yards.
I feel like this is the first year I've

775
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:30,039
heard this much about Fox. I don't
remember.

776
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,039
» No, it's around like

777
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:38,400
between me and the North Sports. They
have a stairway down to a utility room

778
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:44,240
and friends of mine used to own that.
And no kidding, foxtail seeds were this

779
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:47,680
deep in there. And I said, "If I was
you, I'd light them on a fire. They'd

780
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:51,760
burn really good." As kids, we used to
burn

781
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:55,559
them next.
He couldn't because he

782
01:07:57,422 --> 01:08:03,720
[laughter]
>> Yeah,

783
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,720
» that's what guard hoses

784
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,720
» developers

785
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:21,679
even if you see this but behind the hall
today when I was walking down the alley

786
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:25,359
they got sales
I know.

787
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:30,319
» They're not that big, but you have to
keep them going off at this time of

788
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:34,560
year. They just go this
>> and it is as big expensive your animal

789
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:38,040
gets.
500 bucks

790
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:47,920
is getting torn down by
nobody knows.

791
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:52,560
» I don't know. It was supposed to get
torn down last September. It's not it's

792
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:56,239
not a town owned building, so we don't
really have any control over it. We were

793
01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,480
told that it was going to happen. We're
constantly told it's going to happen.

794
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:03,759
Nobody seems to know who's doing it,
who's in charge of it.

795
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:09,359
» School division says the province
province says it's the school division,

796
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:15,040
but yeah, it's like torn down
about CRA. I assume you're talking about

797
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:18,960
revenue agency
>> earlier. Yeah. In Israel.

798
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:24,719
Yeah.
>> Yeah. They sent me a bill. I went to my

799
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:32,400
bank like three weeks ago, paid that
bill. Today I got a check back the total

800
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:36,480
amount I had got the bills for pay them.
>> Now what I do,

801
01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:40,640
» which is why um town of Venezuela is
challenging the CIA decision too before

802
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:46,000
they're paying their
>> they did a study and 85% time they give

803
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:52,799
you the wrong advice. My friend, you got
major minds to somebody

804
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:58,598
and you cannot fight them because
they're the

805
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,618
» I uh
[laughter]

806
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,960
don't say anything about
>> if you're waiting for something from the

807
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,840
federal government, you better be
prepared to wait for a long time. But

808
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:12,080
when CRA wants something from you,
>> what am I going to do now? Get a double

809
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:16,000
do or what?
>> It's crazy.

810
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:20,239
It is
>> send it back to him. Write it off as a

811
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:24,719
charitable donation.
>> I have to hang on to it for when the

812
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:27,600
next comes.
I suppose and I just have

813
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:32,080
» Yes.
>> And actually it was from her question.

814
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:36,239
So there is a lot of empty lots from
developers and those lots are in

815
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:40,239
disrepair, right? They did kind of cut
them over here, but there's still junk.

816
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,920
There's still trash in them, right? Um
thinking about the ones from Abby and

817
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:48,239
things like that. It's the same as the
community over here where behind

818
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:52,560
Henderson clothes in that back alley.
Yeah. All of that back alley remains

819
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:55,920
unfinished. Abby said that they didn't
finish it. The developers said they'd

820
01:10:54,159 --> 01:11:00,719
finish it as soon as the last lot went
in. The last lot's been in for almost

821
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:06,480
two years now and there's been no
movement on it. So, how does the town

822
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:09,520
plan to hold these developers
accountable for what they say they'll do

823
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:13,520
and to finish the docks?
>> Yeah. So, it's a it's a constant

824
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:17,440
struggle with um not just for some of
them better than others, but um yeah,

825
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:23,040
with empty lots and I mean it's an
ongoing constant uh we're constantly on

826
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:26,320
them. We're finding
if it's construction issues, we do have

827
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:30,400
a few more levers like outstanding
construction issues that we can we can

828
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:34,239
utilize. But for the empty lots, we just
the peace officers do their job and

829
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,520
» and then we just continue to let them
build in this community even though they

830
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,400
can't prove us that they want to be
responsible members of this.

831
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,840
» Well, it's hard to find a developer that
you don't have issues with in any

832
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:47,920
community for one. So, wouldn't say
we're continuing to let them

833
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:52,800
» ability. Yeah.
>> And we do we don't necessarily advertise

834
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,640
every everything we do with every
developer, but we do hold them

835
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,080
accountable.
>> But you all see change, right? You'll

836
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:01,920
see them behave differently. You'll see
the walls cleaned up. You'll see the

837
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:05,760
back alleys finished. You'll see these
things that have sat for a while be

838
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:09,360
done. And that's I think what means the
most is when you're looking around left

839
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,960
or right. That's what you see, right?
And so I think that it doesn't speak

840
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:16,320
well when you have seniors going out
there and spending their funds and

841
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:21,199
making their yards beautiful where we
have developers, you know, charging

842
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:26,880
taxpayers how much money to build
houses, maybe not building them, great

843
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:30,640
and then leaving these lots this way or
not doing or not being held accountable

844
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:35,840
to what they do. Like that road back
here behind the alley should be paid or

845
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:42,239
should be completed. There's no reason
for it and it ends up being a horrible

846
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:46,960
hit every year because it's unfinished.
Like we couldn't finish our landscaping

847
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:48,960
landscape without this alley finished.
You'll watch.

848
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,600
» I don't know what specific alley you're
talking about there.

849
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:55,120
» The one that leads to storm water
content on this end.

850
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,800
» Oh, okay.
>> So, that's not completed. It doesn't

851
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:02,719
have proper gravel. It doesn't have
proper drainage. And the town does

852
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:06,159
continue to grade it. Well, why are we
not just holding the de developer

853
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:10,960
accountable for the job?
>> Yeah. So, yeah, I I can look into that

854
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:17,760
specifically. I don't know if there's
anything.

855
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:25,120
This lady just told me that CP across
school there's an hour to go home.

856
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:29,239
Should I call her or should I mind being
broken because I

857
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:38,000
got a bunch of yards cleaned up and
yards because I recommended my

858
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:41,679
neighbor's kids for mowing because their
mower sucked.

859
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:45,280
» I mean, I I I can't tell you what to do.
If you want to follow CP, you can, but

860
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:49,679
uh we can also we can also follow up
with our our CP people. And

861
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:54,719
» I think it be more because they just
think you're a crazy old.

862
01:13:52,719 --> 01:14:00,640
» Yes.
>> But I have no trouble doing that because

863
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:06,120
the dispatchers for the truckers over
there

864
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,120
» CP responds like the CRA.

865
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,120
Yeah, we can definitely
>> remind them of their legislative

866
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:18,080
responsibilities to ensure that they're
not creating a hazard that can

867
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:23,440
endangered.
>> Oh, yeah. You'd be surprised that I know

868
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:29,199
how easily CP can get away from any
legislative responsibilities like

869
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:32,640
they they are our most powerful
>> entity

870
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:37,920
» entity in there is no one more powerful
than

871
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:45,000
CP
>> that's the the federal government a long

872
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:45,000
long time sold out any

873
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,440
uh anything from

874
01:14:52,697 --> 01:15:00,480
» [laughter]
>> Okay, we we do not have a closed

875
01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:03,880
session. Um, so get a motion to council.
>> All in favor?