[3:38] worked in our favor so that by the time
we got over the hump and actually
[3:42] started talking about how much money we
needed to borrow, the interest rates
[3:47] were lower. So then we had the
conversation about do we take the loan
[3:51] over 20 years or do we take the loan
over 15 years because the interest rates
[3:55] have made the payments so that we can
pay it off in a shorter amount.
[4:02] So then we worked through the
construction process to try and reduce
[4:05] costs further as much as we could.
Obviously we didn't hire a project
[4:08] manager. We did it internally.
Um we met weekly during design uh with
[4:14] the firefighters at lovely works and the
design team to keep them up to date and
[4:18] we use collaborative decision making
with the end users so that they got the
[4:23] most practical facility for them. Um we
were also able to identify multiple
[4:28] opportunities through design and
construction to improve the
[4:31] functionality and decrease cost. Some of
these things are like the recycled
[4:36] aggregate
[5:32] So save a pile of money with no hotels
and no travel costs because we use only
[5:36] one. So everything was spread here in
America
[5:50] budget things like the mechanical
mechanic bay which has been used every
[5:54] single day since that shop is open and
saves I think on three different trucks
[6:00] now it's probably saves $6,000
just kind of doing the work and parts
[6:05] instead of showing
Uh, additionally we put lighting on the
[6:10] east end to illuminate the dog park and
that was part of an ad value. We already
[6:15] had light holes and we already had
standard but
[6:19] facing one direction
in things like that. And then another
[6:24] big one is the deep services. So the
water and sewer actually enter our
[6:29] building on the south side and so we
could have terminated those services
[6:34] there but we ran them all the way to the
end of the parcel so that on future
[6:38] growth we'll have those services
available and we have to redig it up and
[6:42] we put it in. We're already excavating
on something that building on it at the
[6:47] time and so it costs money but it saves
us time.
[6:52] uh and then the aggregate storage.
[6:56] So final costings the land and
acquisition and servicing uh cost 1.5
[7:01] million change.
Uh the project construction which is
[7:06] construction utilities contingency and
all the services added. So that's your
[7:10] gas going in your power your services
internet uh was 8.7 million. And so the
[7:17] total project costs 10.2. We estimated
12 million originally. Uh this project
[7:23] ended up 96,000 under the construction
budget that we signed with builders
[7:29] um and 1.7 million under the original
total project cost estimate. And so that
[7:35] with interest rates and everything else
lowered our venture requirement by 2
[7:39] million.
So that 10 million uh
[7:45] 213 is broken down uh like this. So we
used $4 million in reserves. As uh Sean
[7:53] just mentioned, the 5.5 maximum
dementure is now 3.5.
[7:58] » Uh we received grants uh for $2.2
million
[8:02] uh 1.9 from the federal government,
252,000 from the federal government. Um
[8:09] and then of course we have the sale of
the um pool fire hole.
[8:14] And so if you did the math on this one,
this is your your 10 million 2134275.
[8:23] And so by utilizing our own staff to
manage this project and through what I
[8:29] consider an ex exceptional partner in
Scott builders, they're amazing to work
[8:32] with. uh we were able to deliver a
facility that is more functional, more
[8:37] efficient and better prepared for future
growth than originally envisioned. Most
[8:41] importantly, we achieved these
enhancements while bringing the project
[8:44] in under budget, demonstrating both
strong fiscal responsibility and
[8:49] long-term value.
[8:54] So, the successful completion of this
facility strengthens the town's ability
[8:57] to respond to emergencies, maintain
public infrastructure, and continue to
[9:02] provide a high level of service to the
community for years to come. I think
[9:05] » a lot of other companies I think
construction wise would have tried to
[9:10] squeeze out that that last 96,000
[9:18] [laughter]
[9:21] » questions
>> questions here.
[9:26] I uh I will say I noticed when we had
the open house uh something I mean
[9:32] obviously everybody was there be even
with pride as as they should be. Uh it's
[9:37] I I know you guys put a lot of work into
getting that where it is and but I did
[9:43] notice we did have Inisvale and we had
Red County uh services that were there
[9:48] checking out our building as well. Um
has there been any ideas for other tours
[9:53] because I'm sure we can't be the only
municipality. I know when we were
[9:57] looking at this building, you went and
toured a whole bunch. Do we have others
[10:00] that are lined up to check our building
out now?
[10:02] » Yes, we do have a couple municipalities
that come in in the fall to tour uh the
[10:08] building and we've also done the new
county wav as well, right? And they're
[10:13] already starting to junction. City of
Oklahoma will be coming in the next
[10:17] month.
[10:20] » Councelor Crannberg,
>> uh just a comment. I know we like didn't
[10:24] hire out like a project manager to do
this for us or to do all the planning or
[10:28] all the things. You guys did your own
research. You looked into what was
[10:32] needed.
That cost would have been huge to to add
[10:36] to the plate. And so I just want to
recognize that when you guys did that
[10:41] internally,
not only did you save the project money,
[10:45] but that's added to your job typical
dayto-day for everybody. So there's a
[10:51] reason that cost would have been would
have been large and that's because it's
[10:54] not an easy task. So kudos to you guys
for pulling that off on an otherwise
[10:58] already busy schedule because I don't
think we recognize necessarily that
[11:01] enough. So thank you.
>> It definitely went.
[11:06] » I wasn't going to say it, but [laughter]
[11:13] » uh anybody else? Councelor Mueller, just
more of a comment. Um when I got on
[11:18] council in 2017, I know this was part of
the strap planning and their dream would
[11:22] build um it fairly quickly because it
it's a huge uh project for a community
[11:28] of our size. But uh kudos to the team.
Um when you look at the numbers of
[11:33] having a $10 million project and having
three and a half million in venture, I
[11:36] think that's a very very good balance to
have you know the debt load versus what
[11:41] we have in reserves and then other just
money we did with the land purchasing
[11:45] session. Um, and as well, I think most
of us are aware, we see in other news
[11:50] releases from other municipalities that
are building facilities, they're
[11:54] building just the firewall and it's
going to cost the $20 million public
[11:58] facility and all of the other storage
spaces and and the other coal storage
[12:03] building and then the list of mods to
what we value add to that building for
[12:07] 50 years to come. Great work. I'm very
very pleased with that. Sure.
[12:13] speaking on behalf of council on that
and they or might not talk more about it
[12:16] but I think we're very very happy with
the results [clears throat] but this
[12:20] project got started when you start
working this three years ago four years
[12:23] ago now
>> 2021
[12:24] » the day I got hired
[12:30] so long path to get here but I follow
[12:36] » I just want to appreciate your your
forethought [snorts] in building what
[12:39] you did uh because you're looking into
the future and this is going to uh carry
[12:44] us through for many more years to come
here and I'd just like to know if you
[12:48] designed your own avatars uh for good.
[laughter]
[12:52] » I did not.
>> No, you this building is going to be the
[12:57] envy of a lot of other communities and
uh we should be very proud and you guys
[13:00] should be very proud of yourselves.
>> Um yeah, thanks very much everybody.
[13:05] Thanks for putting this together. I I'm
just wondering if we can do like a
[13:08] simplified sort of one one page version
of this to share with the public just uh
[13:13] like a by the numbers type thing.
>> Um I think there's there's some people
[13:18] in the community that I think would be
happy to see it.
[13:22] » And I think it's good for us to show off
a little bit too because I think you
[13:26] guys did a great job.
>> Yeah.
[13:27] » Thank you very much.
>> Good job.
[13:31] » Uh okay, you guys are good. You're done.
Moving on. 6.1A monthly accounts for
[13:37] online payments [clears throat] from
July 23rd to August 20th.
[13:45] Any questions that were not answered
here? Council member Densson.
[13:48] » Uh yeah, just one. Um number 0032,
um the South Red Deer waste water, uh it
[13:57] was at 113,700,
which is just about double what we
[14:01] usually see. I'm just wondering if
there's a a reason for that.
[14:06] » Uh rain would be
>> that's the Okay.
[14:09] » We had exceptionally wet month and there
seem to be a bit of infiltration or
[14:14] install that end up happening more than
we expected.
[14:17] » Yeah. Okay. No, I was just curious
because there's quite a jump from our
[14:20] usual 64,000 to 113,000. So, okay.
Thanks.
[14:28] » Okay.
Any further questions?
[14:32] Get a motion to approve.
[14:36] All in favor?
[14:40] 6.1B investment statement for month
ending July 31st, 2026.
[14:50] [clears throat]
There's no questions here. I will just
[14:54] get a motion to approve.
Councelor Cranberg.
[15:00] All in favor?
And the last one is the monthly bank
[15:04] reconciliation
for month ending June 30th.
[15:16] I'll get a motion to approve. Council
Mueller. All in favor?
[15:22] » Next is the CEO's report. Mr. Bike,
>> thank you very much. Um I do have a
[15:27] short presentation in a moment but I
just touch on a few things just so you
[15:32] have a heads up tomorrow night is the
imple night so
[15:36] be
able to show there's
[15:40] convention is coming up here in a couple
weeks. Um we are
[15:46] sort of been asked told that we're it's
our turn to host the regional council
[15:50] CEO meetings. We've identified October
the 20th it's going to be held in
[15:54] Denver. We have more information coming
up for very near future on that. Uh you
[15:58] know edge school division uh we have
four new portables that we put in J
[16:03] school. Um there was a fair bit of
discussion going on regarding the
[16:07] servicing of the units because there's a
fair bit of
[16:10] capacity in those those units. Weren't
sure they had enough servicing in the
[16:14] current area which they thought they
were all right. And we had some
[16:18] discussion about parking requirements at
the school as well. Those things have
[16:22] been addressed. the portables were moved
in and at the time of this report they
[16:26] are somewhat placed. My understanding is
they're fully in place tonight um for
[16:31] weekend. So so looks like it's coming
about. Uh joint use planning agreement
[16:36] is uh getting reddrafted and it's near
completion and this also now includes
[16:41] Penhold Wasu Middle School. Hoping to
have that turn to council here in the
[16:45] next few weeks. Uh the pen hold school
itself, the old school um there's been
[16:50] zero information
of that building
[16:55] something supposed to come down last
fall. It's a few coming about
[17:00] um offsite levies. We have asked Kaggish
to update our report uh to current
[17:05] numbers and we're going to be looking at
sitting down with the developers here
[17:09] and uh this fall and start talking about
offsite fees and see where that's going
[17:14] to take us and be public consultations
happening on that too as well as well.
[17:18] We'd like to get it in place for the
beginning of 2027.
[17:22] So that's where we're headed for that.
Uh under development earthwork is now
[17:27] completed by North Side at the Melport
development. Um they wrapped it up in
[17:31] July 30th. Urban Dirt Works is in right
now. Uh they had the water. They're
[17:36] actually tested this past week and it's
all all good. So they're putting their
[17:41] deep services in as we speak. They're
doing I think more of the shallow stuff
[17:45] now. I think they're doing stormed as of
today, but they hope to be out by the
[17:49] end of next week. And then we anticipate
to see a border pading rolling in about
[17:54] midsepptember.
So um concern we had um I have to admit
[18:00] I'm pleased to see the work is
progressing so quickly because um if
[18:04] it's done ball too much down the way we
will see some housing permits as well
[18:11] some interest start developing only if
they get in the ground before so so that
[18:18] might happen they're hoping that's going
to work. There was some discussion uh
[18:22] with uh Apple regarding the rightway
agreement. Um we said we'll get back to
[18:26] the one that there's um [clears throat]
regional managers in all these. So we
[18:30] just have to have a discussion on that
clarity of two areas that's not loading
[18:36] up any
[18:41] uh second subdivision application came
in August the 19th. This is forection.
[18:47] This is for the uh park area.
Um just want to give you a heads up.
[18:52] This isn't finished. It's still um went
back and forth for open this week.
[19:02] There's your park layout.
Um you can see at the top there's a
[19:07] soccer pitch to put in. And then you got
your um
[19:13] right hand corner is your layout for the
u playground structure. you see that a
[19:17] little bit more is supposed to go down
further.
[19:25] So there's the important thing the
council did ask parking as you can see
[19:30] there's 12 stalls going to come off the
end of boulevard here. So they are
[19:35] putting parking inside the the park area
as well.
[19:42] Extreme
[19:46] plantings.
[19:50] [clears throat]
[19:53] These are your pathway systems. There's
been a little bit of discussion about
[19:56] the pathways. Um
I think some of our staff are saying if
[20:00] you'd rather see the pathways kept the
same width throughout makes it easier
[20:05] maintenance versus one being wider
narrower. So So we've had some
[20:10] discussion about that as well.
[20:19] Show me a picture. There it is. Here's
the actual picture with plur.
[20:23] The only thing that's changing is that
um
[20:28] that um chained um
>> miracle round
[20:32] » miracle round that is likely replaceable
slide merch
[20:36] one that's sitting there. Apparently
there's they've been known to have one
[20:40] maintenance issues sometimes kids
getting caught up and getting hurt. So
[20:45] we chose we do not want that there.
So that's basically what playground
[20:51] structure is. In place of that chain
one, there's going to be a a t
[20:58] and will they put the garbage cans in or
will that be putting garbage cans in the
[21:04] tables and she's
they'll be that's all part of the
[21:08] project cost.
[21:15] That's sort of what it's going to be
looking like. There's a few things going
[21:18] on. We're still having some discussions.
Um we have um our horiculturist looking
[21:22] at it, but they're horiculturist and
what we're sort of leaning towards a lot
[21:27] more fruit trees in town versus um some
of the trees that they describe it many
[21:33] times on. So we're just um so there's
some discussion happening those
[21:39] particular areas. So that should be
wrapped up here shortly.
[21:43] Okay. So under administration, any
questions on that?
[21:49] I'm just happy we're at least
I'm sure the residents in that area will
[21:54] be happy as well. Under administration
July 30th, uh attended a meeting with
[21:59] council and Mr. Williams.
Um just to let you know, we did sign an
[22:05] agreement for a local mis municipal
initiative program
[22:09] that was sent in reference to our
funding for the Mitchell Street storm
[22:13] water upgrade.
uh he sent the infant uh FCM agreement
[22:18] for tree inventory canopy management
agreement that's signed in fact it's
[22:24] our council reps are intermiss ICF
intermissal collaborative framework ICF
[22:34] almost [laughter]
we met with county to go over the joint
[22:38] agreements and um there's a a number of
agreements it's encompassed into that
[22:43] one large agreement so IEP is just sort
of a covering agreement for all the
[22:47] other agreements. So we went through all
that spent a bit of time with the ICF
[22:52] committee on that. You can see what
I do have a commitment from the CEO from
[22:58] your county to sit down and start
talking about some capital costing of
[23:02] existing infrastructure. So should have
that hopefully some fall.
[23:09] Uh August 14th attended a grand opening
and coming for public service building.
[23:15] Upcoming items of interest uh we're
continue to work with Milport to make
[23:18] sure housing gets started as quick as
possible and also the park area. We're
[23:22] working on the ICF agreements as we
speak like to get that upgraded and
[23:27] place as well. uh memorial hall. We're
working towards restoration fundraising
[23:33] if the council gives permission to uh
put some funds aside to do some further
[23:40] depth investigating which is package
tonight. We will probably pull the
[23:44] trigger to get somebody in here ASAP to
start some walls apart to see what it
[23:48] looks like. We've already asked the
cadets that's got some storage in the
[23:52] basement to have a structure.
So they've moved forward with that.
[23:59] Um, we're following a recent matter that
Insil is dealing with right in Canada.
[24:05] We have some documentation of that. So,
we're just sort of asking keep us in the
[24:09] loop what's happening. So stay with
September the 3rd of our unions
[24:16] representatives are going to be coming
out to look at some of our insurance
[24:19] strategies.
[24:23] Good.
[24:27] Um and we're also looking at placing um
funding for Avenue. We had design
[24:35] drawings done for Avenue North 42.
Um that was a year ago. We asked update
[24:42] the numbers so we can actually get that
information into our transportation if
[24:46] not borders cost funding and thank you
to Yaro for up on that.
[24:52] Hopefully we'll get some fun to that
role.
[24:56] That's my report worship.
[clears throat]
[25:00] » Thank you very much. Uh any questions
for the CEO?
[25:06] Council Mueller with regards to
CRA challenge there. Have they are there
[25:12] anyations to us or maybe soldier to us?
Um yes.
[25:21] Um some of the agreements that they're
being challenged on we have similar
[25:25] agreements
there with different agencies not all
[25:30] one direction but there are different
agencies as well. So um they are
[25:35] challenging. So we'll see what comes out
of it. So
[25:39] so um I have been in discussion with the
CEO there a couple times
[25:46] see how things are going because it is
of interest to us. um that the
[25:50] implications are last we can't be the
only misal
[26:01] much broader
[26:08] coming
>> um thank you I was going to say I know
[26:11] we haven't heard anything from the
province can we reach out again um just
[26:14] because I we're getting late into the
season and there's been no nothing and
[26:18] we're now going to be sitting there with
that boarded up school as you come into
[26:22] our town with a gas station that's
closed and it's only a matter of time
[26:26] till that's boarded up to is not a nice
look for us, right? When you talk about
[26:30] people wanting to invest in our town and
that's what you're met with when you
[26:34] come in and there's no reason that after
a year that we've heard nothing from
[26:38] them. So,
>> um
[26:42] they have been questions back to school
division. So, I'm not sure if they'll
[26:46] give us an answer. We have grad.
>> Yeah.
[26:50] » But we are coordinating
closely with the I'm not sure why it's
[26:56] taking so long. Last I heard they had
just waiting to get to Google
[27:04] » that would go through um Alberta
infrastructure.
[27:09] » Was it
Albert Education who handles the
[27:13] » Oh, the demolition.
>> Yeah.
[27:14] » Yeah. I believe it was Alberta
infrastructure.
[27:19] Okay.
[27:24] Any other questions? [clears throat]
Motion to approve the report.
[27:30] Cunningham.
All in favor?
[27:37] Community services report is next.
[27:47] Mueller, uh, there was a section there
talking about
[27:52] ambassadors.
[27:55] What what is the potential cost
for budgetary considerations
[28:03] for
[28:06] the wages
[28:11] for the summer? Um
[28:16] had was sponsored to I think if I
correct
[28:20] and still had sponsorship as well
and not
[28:26] sponsor
council wish
[28:40] » um it was suggested did I don't know I
mean I know someone I guess said I
[28:45] didn't ask but that the the Typer Creek
optimists which are kind of work with
[28:50] the group but that they'd be they would
potentially be interested in looking to
[28:56] sponsor something like this.
[29:00] So, I don't know if that's something we
can follow up with our local optimist
[29:03] group anyway.
[29:09] But before we do that, I guess is is
there an interest in us um scoring this?
[29:14] I I I think it's a good idea
have someone around that area,
[29:20] especially over the summer months.
You
[29:23] » mean just to keep an eye on the kids?
>> Be a good role model. Yeah.
[29:28] » Stuff like that.
And it wouldn't be a Sorry, worship. I
[29:32] was just going to say it's it's not a
full-time position. It's maybe a few
[29:35] hours.
>> Yeah.
[29:36] » Two, three nights a week type thing. So,
it wouldn't be huge dollars.
[29:41] » Be a popular area for youth to go to
community.
[29:45] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Just want to be a positive role
[29:49] model for some of the the kids that hang
around there.
[29:53] Maybe a bit of a safety net, too. Um
younger kids that want to be there.
[29:57] » Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
[30:01] » Okay. Uh, any other questions from this
report? Okay.
[30:08] » So, may as well we will look for a
motion when we get later down there, but
[30:17] » So, you want you don't want the motion
now? Later.
[30:20] » No, we can do it later. [clears throat]
>> Um, okay. If there's no other action
[30:25] from the community services report, then
I'll get a motion to approve. Center.
[30:29] All in favor?
[30:34] Fire and protective services report is
next.
[30:47] Any questions on this?
[30:54] by a bunch [laughter]
[30:59] again. I was just going to ask about
where are they going to get the f I
[31:04] don't know if I read this properly but
where are you going to get the fuel from
[31:08] with the petrol pass like is it still
going to be
[31:14] » well I assume it would be the only
petrol Canada is the one just right
[31:17] there
>> okay so it's okay
[31:22] » I think I think the biggest issue for
fueling those vehicles up is they can't
[31:26] fill in can't fit in
Oh, right.
[31:35] » Uh, any other questions?
[31:42] I'll [clears throat] get a motion to
approve.
[31:44] » Councelor Dson. All in favor?
Multiplex report is up next.
[31:58] Council Mueller, I'll try to shake up
the group here. Maybe get more comments
[32:01] on them. Um
what caught my eye was the uh the
[32:07] concession and it's great to see that uh
we're going to have somebody that's
[32:11] going to come in and really uh get that
open for us with some options. mostly
[32:15] something that a lot of people are
commenting on our facility here that
[32:18] there isn't a concession. So, uh hoping
that that will go well.
[32:22] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Happy to have someone.
[32:28] Anything else from the multiplex report?
Got a motion to approve.
[32:36] All in favor?
Carried. Operations report is next.
[32:44] Councelor Densen,
>> is it the town's responsibility for
[32:47] cutting the medians uh by the
playgrounds? I'm talking like Hawkridge
[32:52] uh Boulevard in that. Okay.
U because it hasn't been cut in a while
[32:57] and the weeds and the foxtails are
getting out of hand over there. So, um I
[33:01] was just wondering whose responsibility
it was. So, okay. Uh would it be best
[33:06] then just to make a report then to uh
public works in regards to that? Okay.
[33:13] Any
[33:18] other questions here?
Councelor Cunningham?
[33:21] » I was just going to say the uh fishing
day. Is that all right to talk about
[33:25] that here? Yeah, I guess that would be
the spot to talk about. That looks
[33:29] awesome. I'm excited for that for the
kids in town. That'll be really
[33:33] exciting. And um
yeah, I think that's what I have there
[33:39] [laughter]
just for my notes here.
[33:44] Uh, I'll just I don't know if it's um
the the portaotty at the ball diamonds
[33:50] was stolen last week.
>> That's a replace it. But [laughter]
[33:57] » yeah, somebody uh shortly after they
came and drained it and cleaned it, a
[34:02] truck pulled up and with already two
other portaotties
[34:07] in their truck, loaded it up and took
off.
[34:11] Well, that's a crappy situation.
>> Yeah.
[34:16] [clears throat]
>> Well, the group did uh they did replace
[34:19] it. They didn't Yeah. bring a new one in
already, but because the ball the ball
[34:23] pays for that, but councelor Cunningham.
>> Sorry. The other question I had was,
[34:27] yeah, uh has the position for the level
two operator been filled yet? I
[34:33] had somebody asked me at the ice cream
shack and I said, I'm sorry. I I don't
[34:37] know, but if you want to go look on our
website, it's probably if it's there,
[34:40] it's probably still there. So, okay.
Thank you.
[34:44] » All right. Uh if there's nothing else on
operations, I'll get a motion to
[34:46] approve.
Councelor Crannberg,
[34:51] all in favor?
[34:56] Moving on to new business,
we will start with the uh Redu County
[35:01] request for participation and a regional
recreation facility inventory study.
[35:08] Uh did you have anything to um worship?
This was a
[35:13] request from Brighter County. um this
funding is only available when you got
[35:17] multiple municipalities involved and um
I'm I'm happy that they are reaching out
[35:22] to wanting to work with us on a
particular grant project. So um we're
[35:27] all on board with this philosophy and
move forward to put this funding
[35:31] together and move on this project. Um
the last one we did is is a growth study
[35:36] as you probably seen in our our public
services our protective services
[35:42] managers report. Um we are part of a
larger regional funding as well for that
[35:47] particular uh grant as well. So Alberta
community partnership program we have to
[35:53] have it in here before the end of
October. So um we if council is
[35:57] accepting supporting it we will advise
for your county that we be happy to be
[36:01] part
[36:04] and any comments here. [snorts]
>> I think all of this is going to tie into
[36:10] ICF discussions. Um, so it's important
to be a part of this and it's important
[36:14] to identify which
uh which buildings um the county will
[36:20] classify as recreation facilities and
how they classify that. Councelor Giski,
[36:25] following that logic here, I will make a
motion to adopt as administration
[36:29] recommends and sign us up for this
regional recreation facility inventory.
[36:34] She got an acronym for that. Aging?
Yeah.
[36:42] [laughter]
>> Okay. Councelor Giski, let's make a
[36:45] motion.
>> Oh, sorry.
[36:46] » All [clears throat] in favor?
[36:50] And Memorial Hall next steps is item
7.2. [clears throat and cough]
[36:58] » Uh, the worship. I'd like to say this
one is equally as expensive as the last
[37:01] one because the last one doesn't cost us
anything. This one does cost some money.
[37:05] Um but we are asking to proceed with the
uh a little bit of more in-depth
[37:10] analysis on the memorial hall to
determine uh what work has to be done
[37:14] and that way we can get the committee up
and running to get some specifics as to
[37:18] funding purposes what they may have to
go after or we'll determine the fal
[37:24] state of the correct
>> either way we will have a much better
[37:27] idea what we serve we have two walls so
we are asking that we proceed with this
[37:33] uh we have we were suggesting thing is
we have the engineer on site with
[37:38] contractor work with the walls.
will be done together report as to what
[37:45] the recommendations is if it's not too
costly the foundation
[37:51] we'd like to also look at the drafters
well there's a sway in that
[37:57] so if foundation is too costly but the
graers so you have a good in-depth
[38:03] report in this budget
[38:08] » um I would just say like I'm I'm all for
that because I you um definitely need to
[38:13] make sure we're spending money correctly
with this building. But um I would also
[38:18] like to say that if with the committee
we should also send an invite to county
[38:25] um so that uh you know if they're
talking about uh facilities and stuff
[38:30] like that and that way there's no way to
say that they've not been literally on
[38:34] the ground floor with us for funding
with this building.
[38:38] If it ever comes that way, I don't know.
But, you know, hopefully there's grants
[38:41] and stuff and we wouldn't have to reach
out, but
[38:45] just any
[38:52] council,
>> just briefly, do we know if that
[38:54] property line for the fire hall, which
we no longer own, does that go right up
[38:59] to the Memorial Hall building?
>> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that if
[39:04] we're going to get in there, we get in
there before he does put up his fencing.
[39:07] if we're going to trench in there
because that's more cost that we would
[39:10] have to repay.
[39:16] Um further questions here, the only
thing I'd like to add is I I do think we
[39:21] need to move on this with um we had a
large number of people sign up to be a
[39:26] part of this
sub committee that form or something.
[39:30] I've already gotten quite a few um phone
calls or people stop me to ask what's
[39:35] happening with that because they put
their name up and want want to be a part
[39:38] of something to to well save the hall I
guess would be their preference. So I I
[39:43] do think it's important when you have
people u wanting to be involved in
[39:47] something that we don't make them feel
like they're being ignored. So we do
[39:51] have to get some information out there
and get in touch.
[39:55] We we had sent out an email I think last
week just to give them a heads up that
[40:00] uh we are doing this and we're hoping to
get committee start meeting with
[40:04] committee by the end of September.
Perfect. So we are pushing hard to get
[40:08] the report back.
Awesome.
[40:12] Okay. Uh at this point I'll look for a
motion to approve.
[40:19] All in favor?
[40:23] outstanding business.
[40:27] Ah, there was some outstanding business.
Now we'll move on to some outstanding
[40:30] business. Uh, the golf cart pilot
project.
[40:36] Cam said that. You guys will be
laughing. [laughter]
[40:45] [snorts]
>> Okay. [clears throat]
[40:49] » [laughter]
>> So, we do have some uh some additional
[40:52] information on a on a pilot project
here. I appreciate that. Um and a
[40:56] recommendation that we accept the report
for information at this time and that
[41:00] the town touches base with Silven Lake
later on
[41:04] after after the summer out sorry later
this fall on their summer outcomes to
[41:09] determine if proceed to budget and look
at a similar project for7.
[41:15] Any questions here on the report?
[41:24] Um
I I can this probably is not priority.
[41:29] So I'm I'm fine.
I do think more information is good. I
[41:34] think if this if this is something that
that is becomes more common in other
[41:38] municipalities, I think we need to be
prepared for it. Otherwise, people are
[41:42] just going to start driving off cars
around.
[41:45] But at this point, I'm happy with seeing
[41:52] with that. If there's no other comments,
uh, I'll get a motion
[41:58] with the recommendation council.
>> Yes.
[42:01] » Yeah.
>> All in favor?
[42:07] [clears throat]
Is it further to?
[42:11] » Yeah. with the recommend with the
recommendation as
[42:13] » as identified.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[42:20] » Okay. Moving on to correspondence.
[42:29] Council me. Uh Rick, the letter that we
got from affairs on the LGF and other
[42:35] funding. Was that the vote you were
accepted or
[42:38] » Yes.
>> Okay. expected, budgeted, and most spend
[42:44] [laughter]
[42:48] crossing [snorts] here.
[42:55] » Rick was thrilled to see that AB Nunis
is going to be sponsoring a portion of
[42:59] the FCM.
That was awesome.
[43:07] » You get to suggest something to them.
No, I done that with
[43:19] I was going to u about the health
foundation.
[43:24] Are they are you is anybody is he
wanting a board? Is he what he want
[43:32] » to join us?
>> So I have met with Ken. Ken has met with
[43:38] mayors and re this letter went out to
the whole central Alberta Mayor group.
[43:43] So really they're looking to meet with
mayors or council that they have met
[43:47] with
>> and also what they're looking for is
[43:50] money not necessarily from the
municipality but if um if a community
[43:57] has you know a a philanthropist in that
might be interested in donating money to
[44:02] this they need money or they want money.
It's sharp picture.
[44:12] Anything else from the correspondence?
[44:19] Accept information.
Jensen.
[44:23] All in favor?
All right. [snorts] Councelor Mueller,
[44:31] you're up.
Uh last month has been a little bit more
[44:34] quiet for myself. I did have a week
vacation in DC, but uh our very very
[44:40] diligent dog park did meet at the end of
the month. Um one of the few communities
[44:44] that I'm part of that does say it's
super great because the the group that
[44:47] folks that are part of that community
are very vicious and don't want to uh
[44:52] lose our momentum. They have decided
that they do want to put a float in the
[44:57] fall festival parade. So that's really
neat. creative and design and want to
[45:01] just get informationational community
media at large as to what we're about
[45:05] and first days coming forward and of
course we're trying to promote our
[45:09] October 17th poker rally um and as well
we are working on getting that
[45:18] all set up I think we're still working
on a few details but in the next couple
[45:21] weeks we should have something
for that event
[45:26] um but yeah that's mark and then um SR
our team, we have had meetings. We've
[45:31] actually postponed uh our regularly
schedules
[45:37] with the city of Red Deer and we are
having to review them um with the our
[45:44] legal council and have some more inter
discussions. We do have an upcoming
[45:49] meeting with all of the municipal CAOs
um as well coming up in October. So, we
[45:54] want to make sure we're prepared for
that presentation because again, this is
[45:58] a pretty large
ruling that's come out which is going to
[46:03] have I think potentially some fairly
large changes or the regional lines. Um,
[46:08] so it's good that if depending on how
things shake out and we need to advocate
[46:13] for
changes that problems that we need to be
[46:18] as a single voice and not have a
surprise one.
[46:23] will be different. So, um yeah, we be we
uh be prepared for board wellness on
[46:28] that as they happen. That's it for me.
Thank you very much, councelor S. Um
[46:36] been pretty quiet for me as well. August
14th, I attended the grand opening of
[46:41] the public service building. What a
wonderful building. And um I was with a
[46:47] couple of ladies and they were just in
awe that the conference room. They're
[46:52] just like, "Oh, we can't wait to, you
know, you, oh, we can use it for this
[46:56] and we can use it for that." So, we
might get some calls. Um, [laughter] so
[47:01] the the 25th, um, I'll be at the
discovery night, 27th, we're having a
[47:06] ball festival meeting and so
I'm sure they haven't been buying just
[47:13] be going over everything. And I noticed
uh around town when
[47:21] I don't know who did our sidewalks was
that did
[47:24] » so they hang up the sidewalks they've
been giving people's lawns sometimes
[47:29] they put sod in there other times they
just put oh I don't know it's looks like
[47:35] canola growing along the sides of
people's
[47:41] now it's like
I think a little more chaos must be
[47:45] done. And if they're going to do that,
then they should probably come back and
[47:48] fix them. The one that I've noticed a
lot, it's right across from the Jesse
[47:52] Duck School on
[47:57] and it's like I think they can do a
better job of
[48:02] » of their facing and finishing up
>> the aesthetics.
[48:06] » The aesthetics.
>> Yeah. It's It just looks like
[48:12] » Yeah. But if if some if you send them a
letter or something and say like guys,
[48:20] it's got to be a better job than that.
>> My opinion, we'll investigate that. I'm
[48:28] not sure what the status is, so I can't
comment.
[48:31] » Picture is worth a thousand words,
right?
[48:34] » Exactly.
>> Yeah,
[48:35] » that's
[48:38] me. Thank you, Council Gizki. Well,
you're looking at the canola at 147
[48:43] Lincoln Street. That's me doing a little
micro farming and
[48:48] » um you know what? It's been a quiet
month for me. The FCSS board starts
[48:53] sitting again two weeks from now. We
unfortunately lost uh Jason Clinic is
[48:57] moving on to uh job fairs at the end of
the month. So, I've worked with him for
[49:04] three years and he's a very good city
staff and he will be missed. Um other
[49:08] than that, um it's my birthday on the
13th. So there really wasn't quite as
[49:12] good of a present from as much of the
well wishers as I got as the new public
[49:16] works building being so good, the event
going so well, and almost everyone being
[49:21] on time. [laughter]
[49:26] » It's going to be a very good facility
for many years to come.
[49:29] » I'm sure it was a staffer. Yeah, if
someone's blood pressure went higher,
[49:33] I'll tell that. But that being said,
that's all I have for you.
[49:36] » Thank you very much, Council Gunny.
[49:42] here. All righty. All righty. Um, so
yeah, we did have the quick meeting
[49:46] there, but the minister uh was short.
Um, I'm glad we were able to get an
[49:50] audience. Um, as I said, I'm glad we
didn't have any issues with Delburn
[49:54] because we did have to share our 15
minutes, but uh hopefully they'll be
[49:58] able to get back to us um on on our
issues. Um, the ICF, I got to say, what
[50:04] a good meeting that was. Um, sometimes
you go to these things and uh, I felt
[50:09] really good coming out of it because we
had some direction. We have stuff that
[50:12] we're going to be talking about and I'm
so glad that our administration is
[50:15] working on it already. So, that's
fantastic. And, uh, sometimes, you know,
[50:20] meetings don't have to be super formal
to be fruitful and I appreciated that.
[50:25] Um, the open house again that was
amazing. Um,
[50:30] what a just what a what a great day for
Penhold. And I was surprised like I just
[50:34] was so pleased with the turnout that we
had too. Like you know all of our staff,
[50:40] the public works staff and fire
department. I know there was people that
[50:43] used to be on fire department that came
there and just it was great. It was
[50:46] really good and uh exciting. So um the
EOE which is the elected officials uh
[50:54] course there um was hoping to uh I am
registered for the land use planning
[51:00] which is uh now pushed back to November
so will not be getting the certificate
[51:06] this year but also I would like to uh
put forward to take the um hiring of the
[51:14] CAO course that is also upcoming also
online. It is not part of the municipal
[51:18] elected um leadership course, but I
would still like to take that course if
[51:23] uh that's available to me as a motion
afterwards. Uh museum, we've been so so
[51:29] so silly busy. I will say we did have an
impromptu visit from the fire
[51:34] department. Was awesome. I wish we would
have known because we so would have
[51:37] advertised it because man, the kids just
went screaming out there.
[51:42] So, um it was great. We also had a visit
with FCSS. Um, we did a a day with them.
[51:48] We had a day with PYC. It was really
nice to be able to partner and we were
[51:52] talking about partnering on other things
coming up. So, stay tuned. We are going
[51:58] to be busy over at well, this is our
last week serving ice cream, but we'll
[52:02] be busy over at Jesse Duncan as a part
of their meet and greet from 2 to 4 on
[52:06] Friday.
Uh, the seniors have approached us and
[52:10] they would like us to be part of their
garage sale. So, uh, they would like us
[52:14] there for the 18th, 19th, and 20th. So,
I, uh, have to get a hold of HS to see
[52:19] what that's all about. Uh, huge thank
you again to public works. They, uh,
[52:24] came and dug out the base for us for the
swings as per AHS recommendations. Uh,
[52:29] it looks really great. So, thank you.
And then uh we are hosting the central
[52:34] Alberta Regional Museum Network Harmon
as they're called uh September 1st at
[52:39] the seniors uh dropin and with a tour of
our museum afterwards. We've booked a
[52:45] fantastic presenter who is going to come
talk our ears off all about bylaws and
[52:50] board rules and really exciting stuff.
But she actually does make it exciting.
[52:55] So we're really we're we're pleased to
be able to share that with these other
[52:58] people. Again, when you go to a meeting,
it's nice to get something fruitful out
[53:02] of it. So, uh we're excited for that.
And um I would say with citizens on
[53:10] patrol, I know we'll be there for the
discovery night. Uh we'll also be there
[53:15] for the museum uh tomorrow and council.
But I just want to say to our Inisville
[53:20] citizens on patrol, our little neighbors
there that we've partnered with, um they
[53:24] actually were able to call in a
structure fire the other day um in a
[53:28] trailer park. And as you know, I'm not
sure maybe this is something it was say
[53:31] uh our service manager would let us know
here is it's like 7 minutes for a
[53:36] trailer to go up. So hopefully that uh
they were able to help save some other
[53:41] homes in there. So it it does make a
difference for the
[53:45] Thank you.
>> Thank you very much, Densen.
[53:48] » Uh I did it's been very quiet this
summer. It was for me as well. I did
[53:52] attend the uh ribbon cutting for the uh
public service building and I've already
[53:56] said my piece and what I think of what
happened there and uh again so
[53:59] exceptional. Uh otherwise I'm looking
forward to getting back into the
[54:02] committees come this fall. So that is it
for me.
[54:06] » Thank you very much Council Granberg.
>> Uh same thing as Council Mueller
[54:10] attended the dog park committee again
probably the only committee that doesn't
[54:14] break over summer. So it's a passionate
group and the goal was to get something
[54:18] seen. I know when you're raising money
or just even spending money, people like
[54:22] to have something seen and so that was
our big thing is to get something in the
[54:26] ground and that's exciting to see. also
at the opening for the fireh hall and
[54:31] again uh kudos to the staff because
council was there uh MLAs were there,
[54:36] representatives from the feds were there
and just you know we got to sit kind of
[54:40] behind there and cut the ribbon but at
the end of the day um the boots on the
[54:44] ground was you guys and we got to you
know sit up there and cut the ribbon and
[54:47] kind of enjoy that sparkling building
for how long it stays clean like that.
[54:52] Um, but you guys are owed such a debt of
gratitude. I said it already, but thank
[54:56] you for making us look good on that
project because it was really a diamond
[55:00] uh for our town. So,
>> thank you very much.
[55:05] Uh, okay. Um, I also had some vacation
over the last since the last meeting,
[55:09] but um
just wanted to do a well, we've done a
[55:14] I've done quite a few fall festival
interviews over the last uh week. So,
[55:18] this is just a reminder for everyone to
to get registered for Mary Marathon.
[55:22] also uh and make your fall festival
plans.
[55:27] Uh a little update on the the ICF
meeting with Redier County because I
[55:33] think it is
important
[55:37] that we are we're going to be working
with the county on this on developing a
[55:41] capital funding agreement that will be
applied to the to every municipality
[55:46] within the county. Um, so I think it's
really it's a good opportunity for Pen
[55:52] Hold because we're going to be the ones
that are really going to set this up and
[55:56] the other communities will either love
us or hate us for that. Um, but I I
[56:00] think it puts us in a good spot and I
think it shows the the the trust that we
[56:03] have uh between the two municipalities
to make something work. So there is a
[56:07] few good suggestions, but also we're not
going to sign an agreement until that's
[56:12] that's in there in writing.
I know the county would like to to sign
[56:18] and then say we'll work on these as we
go and I think we're going to stand fast
[56:23] to to not doing that. So um it was a
really positive meeting and the start of
[56:28] some more work to come but probably
[56:34] um I think I'm excited about it. That's
the kind of stuff that
[56:38] I get excited about. [laughter]
[56:44] » Regional collaboration. Yes. Get you
[laughter] going.
[56:47] » Get you going.
[56:51] Uh, okay. Um,
yeah. Otherwise, every like FCM has been
[56:56] fairly quiet. Um, a few random committee
stuff is coming up, but nothing nothing
[57:00] major.
As far as the public services building
[57:03] goes, I'm really hopeful that we can get
some funding for for that road to pave
[57:08] it. I already have gotten emails and and
phone calls from residents in the Oxford
[57:12] Heights or Oxford Landing, sorry, area.
Um the road is taking a beating just
[57:18] with the increased traffic that it saw
over construction and now with data use
[57:21] on it. So that probably should be a
priority. And other than that, I hope
[57:26] everyone had a great summer. looking
forward to September kicking off and
[57:30] getting back into hygiene. So,
[57:35] okay. Um [clears throat]
Oh, sorry.
[57:42] I would like us to Well, let's do we'll
get a motion to accept the council round
[57:46] technical information.
Councelor Sitter. All in favor?
[57:51] Period. Um and I would like a motion
word this um for administration to move
[58:00] forward on um exploring funding
opportunities for a skate park
[58:04] ambassador program.
Councel Mueller. Okay. All in favor?
[58:11] Great.
>> I also had a a motion there for the
[58:15] hiring of CEO EOE project. Um
>> Oh, right. And that's an online
[58:20] » that's an online one. That's the only
Yeah, it's
[58:23] » okay. Um, so councelor Cunningham would
like that uh be able to take that
[58:28] course.
>> Yeah, it's $295 to do it online.
[58:35] » Okay. Uh, does someone like to make that
motion?
[58:37] » Make that motion.
>> All in favor?
[58:43] [laughter]
Okay.
[58:46] » Now we'll move on to questions from the
gallery. Are there any questions from
[58:49] the gallery?
[58:53] » [laughter]
[58:56] » My question a few different ways
>> first. Uh just
[59:04] um so my question is is council aware of
how the concerns of taxpayers are dealt
[59:12] with through the town and then conduct
them as well.
[59:17] Um I would say in generally yes of every
specific example I'm guessing probably
[59:23] not. Uh
>> so there was a person was concerned
[59:27] about what was happening here storm
water ponds and that they were being cut
[59:31] down and it's in violation of the
migratory bird act which is a federal
[59:36] legislation and she brought this concern
forward and there was some
[59:41] misinformation spread by the government
of Alberta which has been corrected. Um,
[59:45] I'm pretty sure the town of Pen's
operations received this information as
[59:48] well. But my concern is is when she
brought that concern forward, she left
[59:55] that conversation with two members of
the town of Pendle in tears. She said,
[1:00:01] "I will never bring anything forward
again. I will never speak up." Because
[1:00:06] she was made to feel villainized in the
whole entire situation. And the people
[1:00:11] that addressed her concern never looked
at the problem she had. All they did was
[1:00:17] pinpoint why she was the problem. And
this isn't the first time I'm hearing
[1:00:22] this with in the town of Pentel that
citizens aren't bringing concerns
[1:00:27] forward because of the way that they are
treated and the way that they're
[1:00:31] addressed by people in the town of
Pentle. So, I'm wondering if anyone is
[1:00:36] going to do something to review this and
if these concerns, if they're not going
[1:00:41] to be addressed properly by operations,
should be brought forward to you guys
[1:00:45] directly.
>> Um, yeah, I mean, we can't investigate
[1:00:49] anything if we don't know about it. So,
of course, yeah, but like if if a
[1:00:54] resident has concerns with with how
they've been treated, they
[1:00:59] for anyone on council, but um I would
say nothing's going to happen if we
[1:01:03] don't know one. So if we do know about
it then we'll look into it
[1:01:05] » and it should be done right because the
federal government had reached out and
[1:01:09] reminded everybody of the migratory bird
act and the fact that these storm water
[1:01:14] ponds are protected under the migratory
bird act and cannot be touched through
[1:01:18] the time frame or anytime that a
migrating bird is seen on those ponds.
[1:01:24] So that information packages essential
operations. So I'm assuming this won't
[1:01:28] be a problem going forward. But the
concern is is that she was right and all
[1:01:34] she was trying to do was care. She was
trying to get people to understand and
[1:01:38] ask why do you do this? And instead of
addressing that in a way to understand
[1:01:42] that there was a problem, it they
completely villainized her and made her
[1:01:46] feel horrible and she'll never speak up
again. And it's not the first time that
[1:01:50] this is happening. So my my biggest
motive is is if the members that serve
[1:01:56] the public feel it appropriate to make
the public a prior anytime they have a
[1:02:02] concern, how do we ever move forward and
what kind of culture does that bring?
[1:02:08] » Yes. So I I 100% I would encourage them
to
[1:02:13] » could be that somebody apologizes to her
because they received this information
[1:02:18] that what they were doing was in
violation on I think it was Wednesday. I
[1:02:22] had the email. Um so that gave all of
Thursday, all of Friday, and all of
[1:02:28] today for somebody to say to her, "I'm
sorry. I was misinformed. The
[1:02:33] information I told you was not correct."
and we should have had a more
[1:02:36] collaborative approach to solve this
problem together.
[1:02:41] » Yeah, that that's fair. Like I I know
nothing about
[1:02:44] » So, but I [clears throat] don't
>> I can't really get into a specific what
[1:02:47] what we should have but yeah,
absolutely. The the res if they have
[1:02:52] concerns, they should reach out to a
member of council.
[1:02:54] » Okay. And that's going to be kind of I
know Richard and I have talked um
[1:02:59] directly and I just feel like the
culture in the town of Penville when
[1:03:04] people are speaking up or they're asking
for help or they're bringing concerns
[1:03:09] they're seeing forward they're often
dismissed they're not followed up on or
[1:03:13] they're shut off and that's a feeling
that I know from multiple people and
[1:03:18] even people that are trying to engage
and make the community better and that's
[1:03:21] coming from you know the local peace
officers as Well, and I just think it's
[1:03:25] such a shame that this town is great and
can be great, but it's because of the
[1:03:31] citizens that live here. And if they're
treated in that way, they're not going
[1:03:34] to participate. And I know there is a
lot of sour grapes out there. So, I'll
[1:03:39] let people know that you guys are
willing to hear this and then to kind of
[1:03:42] bring this forward and they should
expect a change in the mediators to
[1:03:46] » Yeah. And and I mean I I'd also say like
we never get interactions again. Uh we
[1:03:53] had a lot of positive interactions too.
So I wouldn't I wouldn't frame it in in
[1:03:57] the same light and I'm sure there there
are valid concerns but um by and large I
[1:04:03] I do think that we do a great job of
working with the community. Does that
[1:04:06] mean we can be better? Of course we can
always be better. And if there's
[1:04:09] specific examples then we need to know.
And I just think when somebody tries to
[1:04:14] bring a concern forward saying, you
know, we should care about the wildlife
[1:04:16] and I think you guys are in violation of
this. And she leaves the conversation
[1:04:20] with the 2000 courts members in tears,
feeling small, feeling stupid, feeling
[1:04:25] like she shouldn't have said anything.
Oh, I guess I was wrong. I didn't know.
[1:04:29] No matter if she was wrong, she should
never leave the conversation.
[1:04:34] » Right? And so no matter what the intent
was, I know what the outcome was. and
[1:04:39] the fact that she was right after being
treated that way and nobody thought the
[1:04:44] common decency to apologize.
I think we can do better and I think we
[1:04:49] owe our citiz
[1:04:55] [clears throat]
[1:05:00] okay. Anything else?
>> Oh, I can go on forever. [laughter]
[1:05:05] » Thank you very much and thank you for
coming tonight as well.
[1:05:07] » Oh, yeah. Hopefully this won't be a a
common thing, but maybe.
[1:05:12] » No, no, but honestly, that's why we have
public meetings. That's why we allow
[1:05:15] questions from the public, right?
>> We don't know about something, then
[1:05:20] nothing's going to happen. Appreciate
your time.
[1:05:23] » I'm glad you said that because I have a
bunch of people approach me to bring
[1:05:27] this up. Um,
it's the west side
[1:05:33] there are paying lawn care on fixed
incomes. paying for lawn care. Come get
[1:05:39] rid of their weeds and all that. And I
have to come here and say, you know,
[1:05:44] this guy's weeds are 40 high and down
past that corner on flooding. I don't
[1:05:50] know who owns that. Apparently CP does.
It's a it's a nest down there across
[1:05:57] North.
It's not like and
[1:06:03] I but they're they're checked off and
when I went for a walk today I thought
[1:06:09] yeah they have a valid point. I walk
down those alleys and stuff the houses
[1:06:15] fine businesses weeds all over. Yeah,
they know that they forgot this corner
[1:06:22] that has weeds this high and it's a
chronic one.
[1:06:27] I do know that we're in the middle of a
like the peace officers are going around
[1:06:32] doing some enforcement on that right
now.
[1:06:37] » No, it's the same chronic
>> the ones I'm always going to hear about
[1:06:42] and like people are saying, "Oh, there's
a double standard going on. Why do we
[1:06:46] have to look after the alleys and the
businesses don't
[1:06:51] or is it selective enforcement?" They're
wondering what the heck is going on. But
[1:06:57] mostly people just comply with the laws,
but they get kind of upset when they're
[1:07:03] seniors and their yard is their big
thing and they're old and they take
[1:07:08] pride in their yard things we blowing.
And yesterday in that windstorm that
[1:07:14] Bob's tales were like a snowstorm on our
side of I don't know where them coming
[1:07:18] from. I didn't see any in many yards.
I feel like this is the first year I've
[1:07:23] heard this much about Fox. I don't
remember.
[1:07:25] » No, it's around like
[1:07:30] between me and the North Sports. They
have a stairway down to a utility room
[1:07:36] and friends of mine used to own that.
And no kidding, foxtail seeds were this
[1:07:41] deep in there. And I said, "If I was
you, I'd light them on a fire. They'd
[1:07:46] burn really good." As kids, we used to
burn
[1:07:49] them next.
He couldn't because he
[1:07:57] [laughter]
>> Yeah,
[1:08:00] » that's what guard hoses
[1:08:10] » developers
[1:08:15] even if you see this but behind the hall
today when I was walking down the alley
[1:08:19] they got sales
I know.
[1:08:23] » They're not that big, but you have to
keep them going off at this time of
[1:08:26] year. They just go this
>> and it is as big expensive your animal
[1:08:32] gets.
500 bucks
[1:08:42] is getting torn down by
nobody knows.
[1:08:46] » I don't know. It was supposed to get
torn down last September. It's not it's
[1:08:50] not a town owned building, so we don't
really have any control over it. We were
[1:08:54] told that it was going to happen. We're
constantly told it's going to happen.
[1:08:58] Nobody seems to know who's doing it,
who's in charge of it.
[1:09:02] » School division says the province
province says it's the school division,
[1:09:06] but yeah, it's like torn down
about CRA. I assume you're talking about
[1:09:12] revenue agency
>> earlier. Yeah. In Israel.
[1:09:18] Yeah.
>> Yeah. They sent me a bill. I went to my
[1:09:22] bank like three weeks ago, paid that
bill. Today I got a check back the total
[1:09:28] amount I had got the bills for pay them.
>> Now what I do,
[1:09:33] » which is why um town of Venezuela is
challenging the CIA decision too before
[1:09:38] they're paying their
>> they did a study and 85% time they give
[1:09:43] you the wrong advice. My friend, you got
major minds to somebody
[1:09:50] and you cannot fight them because
they're the
[1:09:55] » I uh
[laughter]
[1:10:01] don't say anything about
>> if you're waiting for something from the
[1:10:03] federal government, you better be
prepared to wait for a long time. But
[1:10:06] when CRA wants something from you,
>> what am I going to do now? Get a double
[1:10:09] do or what?
>> It's crazy.
[1:10:14] It is
>> send it back to him. Write it off as a
[1:10:17] charitable donation.
>> I have to hang on to it for when the
[1:10:22] next comes.
I suppose and I just have
[1:10:27] » Yes.
>> And actually it was from her question.
[1:10:29] So there is a lot of empty lots from
developers and those lots are in
[1:10:34] disrepair, right? They did kind of cut
them over here, but there's still junk.
[1:10:37] There's still trash in them, right? Um
thinking about the ones from Abby and
[1:10:41] things like that. It's the same as the
community over here where behind
[1:10:46] Henderson clothes in that back alley.
Yeah. All of that back alley remains
[1:10:50] unfinished. Abby said that they didn't
finish it. The developers said they'd
[1:10:54] finish it as soon as the last lot went
in. The last lot's been in for almost
[1:10:58] two years now and there's been no
movement on it. So, how does the town
[1:11:04] plan to hold these developers
accountable for what they say they'll do
[1:11:08] and to finish the docks?
>> Yeah. So, it's a it's a constant
[1:11:10] struggle with um not just for some of
them better than others, but um yeah,
[1:11:15] with empty lots and I mean it's an
ongoing constant uh we're constantly on
[1:11:20] them. We're finding
if it's construction issues, we do have
[1:11:24] a few more levers like outstanding
construction issues that we can we can
[1:11:28] utilize. But for the empty lots, we just
the peace officers do their job and
[1:11:32] » and then we just continue to let them
build in this community even though they
[1:11:36] can't prove us that they want to be
responsible members of this.
[1:11:38] » Well, it's hard to find a developer that
you don't have issues with in any
[1:11:41] community for one. So, wouldn't say
we're continuing to let them
[1:11:45] » ability. Yeah.
>> And we do we don't necessarily advertise
[1:11:50] every everything we do with every
developer, but we do hold them
[1:11:54] accountable.
>> But you all see change, right? You'll
[1:11:56] see them behave differently. You'll see
the walls cleaned up. You'll see the
[1:11:59] back alleys finished. You'll see these
things that have sat for a while be
[1:12:03] done. And that's I think what means the
most is when you're looking around left
[1:12:07] or right. That's what you see, right?
And so I think that it doesn't speak
[1:12:11] well when you have seniors going out
there and spending their funds and
[1:12:14] making their yards beautiful where we
have developers, you know, charging
[1:12:19] taxpayers how much money to build
houses, maybe not building them, great
[1:12:24] and then leaving these lots this way or
not doing or not being held accountable
[1:12:28] to what they do. Like that road back
here behind the alley should be paid or
[1:12:33] should be completed. There's no reason
for it and it ends up being a horrible
[1:12:39] hit every year because it's unfinished.
Like we couldn't finish our landscaping
[1:12:44] landscape without this alley finished.
You'll watch.
[1:12:47] » I don't know what specific alley you're
talking about there.
[1:12:49] » The one that leads to storm water
content on this end.
[1:12:53] » Oh, okay.
>> So, that's not completed. It doesn't
[1:12:57] have proper gravel. It doesn't have
proper drainage. And the town does
[1:13:00] continue to grade it. Well, why are we
not just holding the de developer
[1:13:04] accountable for the job?
>> Yeah. So, yeah, I I can look into that
[1:13:08] specifically. I don't know if there's
anything.
[1:13:13] This lady just told me that CP across
school there's an hour to go home.
[1:13:20] Should I call her or should I mind being
broken because I
[1:13:31] got a bunch of yards cleaned up and
yards because I recommended my
[1:13:36] neighbor's kids for mowing because their
mower sucked.
[1:13:39] » I mean, I I I can't tell you what to do.
If you want to follow CP, you can, but
[1:13:43] uh we can also we can also follow up
with our our CP people. And
[1:13:47] » I think it be more because they just
think you're a crazy old.
[1:13:52] » Yes.
>> But I have no trouble doing that because
[1:13:57] the dispatchers for the truckers over
there
[1:14:02] » CP responds like the CRA.
[1:14:10] Yeah, we can definitely
>> remind them of their legislative
[1:14:12] responsibilities to ensure that they're
not creating a hazard that can
[1:14:17] endangered.
>> Oh, yeah. You'd be surprised that I know
[1:14:21] how easily CP can get away from any
legislative responsibilities like
[1:14:26] they they are our most powerful
>> entity
[1:14:29] » entity in there is no one more powerful
than
[1:14:35] CP
>> that's the the federal government a long
[1:14:40] long time sold out any
[1:14:46] uh anything from
[1:14:52] » [laughter]
>> Okay, we we do not have a closed
[1:14:55] session. Um, so get a motion to council.
>> All in favor?