1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,799 Do we start? >> Yep. Just did it. 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:08,720 » Okay. [clears throat] I'd like to call the meeting to order and begin with the 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:13,759 pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:20,080 United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:24,320 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,560 Uh tonight we're having a bit of a problem with our video recording and 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:34,880 Chris has taken a regular audio recording on her phone which we'll 8 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:41,680 upload and if it comes up we will start live streaming when that occurs. Um 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:49,360 first item we have is approval of the agenda as presented. Uh, I need to take 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:55,480 item H and change that into uh the transfer of special projects money. Um, 11 00:00:56,399 --> 00:01:05,199 the other area I think that's it. Is there any other changes or additions? 12 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,760 » No. >> Hearing none, I'd entertain a motion to 13 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,439 approve the agenda as modified. >> I make a motion. 14 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:16,400 » I'll second it. All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi. 15 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,400 » Public comment starts out with Cindy Taylor. 16 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:30,479 » I have three items here. Um, first one I want to ask the 17 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:36,560 commissioners about the personnel policies on using personal vehicles for 18 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:40,159 conferences. Is that allowed? >> I think a lot of them drive their own 19 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,720 personal vehicles and then turn their mileage in. 20 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:50,799 » Okay. So that's okay to do that. Uh the other one is um that's why 21 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:55,439 Warren's here. Eagle Eagle's Bluff. Uh we're having a little problem with 22 00:01:53,040 --> 00:02:01,680 overtime at Eagle Eagle's Bluff getting it open and shut at certain times. It 23 00:01:58,479 --> 00:02:10,160 was suggested to leave it open 24/7, which given the nature of that place 24 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:17,040 would be hard to do. um utilities. The utilities falls under the parks board's 25 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:24,400 budget. Um not just the counties. If that could be separated would help some. 26 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:27,760 Um it has no cameras. Um the lighting would have I don't know if it can be 27 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:31,520 turned on >> to come on. 28 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:35,760 » The lighting is a sensor that comes on and off 29 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:40,400 » at Eagles Bluff. >> Yes. I think it's on a sensor. It's not 30 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:45,840 a a switch. So, >> but the bathrooms would be left open 31 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:51,519 24/7, which would cause a problem with the glass house. Number one, I get it 32 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:57,959 with um we can't beat our director right now, although we're losing very 33 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,959 meticulous. Um 34 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:07,760 is it I don't think it's an option at this time to leave it open 247. The B 35 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:14,080 board approved at our last meeting to allow them to do what they had suggested 36 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:21,040 to open it when they come to work, close it when they leave. So 8 to 3 8:00 a.m. 37 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:27,440 to 3:00 p.m. closed on the weekends. I don't like it. Um it was a temporary 38 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:34,720 fix. I'm looking into a uh automatic gate 39 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:40,239 where we can have that gate open say 7:00 a.m. automatically close at 700 40 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:46,159 p.m. We're still going to run into the bathrooms um issue, but I think we can 41 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:51,280 put lights on, but that I think it all can be fixed. A 42 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:55,440 a lock on the door at a certain time just same as a gate. I I think that can 43 00:03:53,519 --> 00:04:01,599 be fixed, but that's what we're looking into. I do not have a quote yet. Um I've 44 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:06,239 been trying to get that, but I'm asking just for you guys to think about that, 45 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:11,760 look into that because I'd really like that to happen by the first of the year. 46 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:18,079 Um that we don't have this closed down. Winter R is going to be easier uh later 47 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:24,479 on. It's not going to be so easy. Um, and we we really that gate I think would 48 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:30,240 solve a lot of all the issues and kind of go across the line with everybody uh 49 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:35,120 making everybody happy. That's the one thing. Or did you have anything? 50 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:39,919 » Well, the uh as far as like trying to leave it open 24/7. 51 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:45,040 Several years ago they tried that back whenever count I think count had four or 52 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:49,840 five officers. sheriff between the sheriff's department and counting police 53 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:55,120 department. They helped out by locking the gate at night. But the problem we've 54 00:04:52,880 --> 00:05:01,120 run into now, counting I think's only got two and maybe one part-time officer 55 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:06,960 and most time our county units are covering counting at nighttime. So it'd 56 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:11,600 be basically put on the burden of the sheriff's department if they're not busy 57 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:16,560 with stuff out in the county. And I don't feel it's the sheriff's 58 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:20,160 department's place to be locking that gate up every night and 59 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:27,120 going up checking to see if anybody's up there. Uh, with the gate, the gate would 60 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:31,360 work except I've got one thing that I don't like about 61 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:36,720 you have to have a sensor of some kind on the inside of the gate in case 62 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:39,840 somebody doesn't get out of there in time, the gate shuts. They're going to 63 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,400 have to have a way to get their vehicle out. And it won't take long if we put a 64 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,600 sensor up that people wanting to go up there and party is going to realize all 65 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:50,800 they have to do is walk in there, trip the sensor, the gates going to open up, 66 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:55,520 they can drive up there, the gates going to close, and they're up there for the 67 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:01,680 night partying and nobody will know there's anything going on. 68 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:06,080 I don't know really what the alternative is. 69 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:09,520 » My personal opinion is that it's a public park. It should be open 24 hours, 70 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,160 seven days a week. >> Do we have money to take care of the 71 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,639 damages? But >> I think we've talked about before um I I 72 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,360 spoke with the sheriff and he said, you know, to as you know, whenever we decide 73 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,520 to first open it, he'd be more than happy to increase patrol for the area 74 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:30,080 and he could talk to the Tel City Police and to increase the patrol for the area. 75 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Also, yes, we're going to have a chance of vandalism, but what park doesn't? I I 76 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:40,560 mean we can't go by the past history and hopefully it wouldn't happen but 77 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,280 » I don't as a taxpayer tell though I don't think Tel say police officer 78 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:48,880 should be going out there >> as a taxpayer for the county I would 79 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:53,600 like to go at 9:00 and maybe >> meet with my friends and I mean what if 80 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:56,720 you have a shared parental agreement and you need a public place to meet the 81 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,240 spouse to make sure >> if the county could guarantee that 82 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:03,840 there'd be funding available to cover damages I wouldn't have a problem with 83 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:07,120 it staying open. >> That, like I said, that's just my 84 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,000 opinion. I know how >> I'd like to see it open. 85 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:15,840 » I know how the damages were before up there. I mean, and I understand cuz my 86 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:23,280 wife feels like you do, it should be open, but at the same time with the 87 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:28,080 budget cuts and stuff for next year, I'm just my concern is that we're going 88 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:32,560 to get stuff tore up and not able to re repair it. you know, the shelter house, 89 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:41,199 the bathroom like bathrooms in the observation areas 90 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:47,280 out glass to overlook the dam. U I just know what I just I know what's going to 91 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:54,400 happen when we leave it open 24/7 because I've seen it in the 70s and 80s. 92 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:57,440 » Okay. So my suggestion would be they're building a tower right next to you for 93 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,520 cell service >> and it has improved. 94 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:05,360 » You cannot have a trigger on the inside that just triggers it at will. So they 95 00:08:03,919 --> 00:08:08,879 can open the gate up. But you can have it. I've been into parking garages 96 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:12,400 before and they don't function properly. I push a button, a camera comes on, 97 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,479 they've got a picture of me and I tell them what my problem is and they can 98 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:22,160 open the gate. So as long as we have connectivity, we can do that. We also 99 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:26,560 can put cameras up there that trigger as people there's any motion or whatever's 100 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:31,039 going on up there. So, that's another alternative. And the locks on the 101 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:34,240 restrooms, if if it's decided a certain time to close them, you can 102 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:39,599 automatically lock them. If you've ever went to an Airbnb and you try to stay 103 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,399 over, you're out. I mean, uh there's systems out there and they're not overly 104 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:47,120 expensive. >> And I think it can meet the security 105 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,560 issue and also open because it is a public park. So 106 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,440 » the uh >> that's what I would suggest looking into 107 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,040 to see what the costs are associated with 108 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:59,200 » the camera as far as like a button camera come on. Would that be monitored 109 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:03,279 by the police department? >> Well, we we'll get through that. If the 110 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:08,399 police department I I think probably uh the police you have a 24hour 111 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,320 service there and and if there's an occasion that someone would get locked 112 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:16,800 into that, I don't think they'd mind saying, "Okay, we'll open the gate." I 113 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:21,680 just can't I just can't envision that. if you put proper signage up that that 114 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,360 would be something that continually happens. 115 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,240 » Well, I and I I've said it might happen one time, but they're going to get their 116 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,760 car out of there if it has to sit there till 7:00 a.m. the next morning for them 117 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:38,640 to come and get it. >> Period. I mean, if there's signage 118 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:43,680 clearly stating this gate will close at 7 8 9 I don't care what time, but 119 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:46,880 » PM, your car needs to be out of there. If it's not, 120 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,720 » you walk down the hill, you call somebody, come and get you. 121 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,880 » They'll figure it out. >> Yeah, they'll figure that's the gate 122 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,399 would be the ideal situation, >> right? 123 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,720 » That way, you know, >> and you have to have some way in case 124 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:02,320 somebody has parked up there unknowingly or isn't from the area so you can 125 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:06,959 accommodate them. But I don't think it'll become a real burden. If it is, 126 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:11,519 you revisit the issue. But I think that locks and lights and cameras and things 127 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:16,000 are are a solution. And I don't think it's would be overly as long as we have 128 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:22,399 connectivity up there. Um >> well I do kind of want to ask that I 129 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:32,760 know um the parks board is the only one that I think has their own 130 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:32,760 um monies brought uh come from the um 131 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,320 October November thingy where they >> talking about 132 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:44,880 » huh um >> budget where they get budgeted so much 133 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:48,160 for utilities. I know the is it the south annex? Where's he at? 134 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,320 East. >> He's at the 135 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,839 » All of the utilities are kept separate by building. 136 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:56,560 » Yeah. >> Yes. But they're all paid by the county. 137 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:01,200 » Well, yours is paid by the county, too, because it's out in general. 138 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:06,399 » Correct. But the parks are not. [cough] The actual parks that are owned by the 139 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:10,320 county are paid >> by the parks board in our budget. Not 140 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,920 saying the county doesn't pay it. >> That's out of the general fund. 141 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:18,720 Everybody's is like that. Theirs is the county buildings are under the 142 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:23,279 commissioners, the south annex, the north annex, and the courthouse. 143 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,880 » She's talking about the parks. >> I'm talking about the parks 144 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:32,720 » at Rome and those places cuz there's lights and stuff that there's meters out 145 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,760 there that it's charged to Greg for at the parks department. 146 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:40,480 » I don't understand the issue. >> I think what there's the confusion. The 147 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:45,120 buildings are under the commissioner's budget. what they're saying the parks 148 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:48,880 are under their budget >> but it's all out of the general fund. 149 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:52,320 It's just a so it's basically the same pot 150 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,040 » if we switch if we switched that over and made it a commissioner expense 151 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,360 » separate >> then we just take it out of your budget. 152 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,800 So if you're not budgeted sufficiently for the utilities that's an issue for 153 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,760 the council. >> Uh so uh I mean 154 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:10,000 » do you understand it's really not any different. It's a different location. 155 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:15,200 » I get I get it. The EMA keeps their the EMA keeps their um theirs in their 156 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:20,000 separate lo. It's by a location. Everything's paid out of general. The 157 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:23,839 commissioners control all county buildings. So that's why they are under 158 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,160 the buildings are under the commissioners and the parks. It's just 159 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:32,000 it's all coming out of general. It's got the location number. So it's it's really 160 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:34,880 nine different. And then I know that you guys were talking 161 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,480 » line item. Is it under a line item for the parks department 162 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:42,079 » in the general? Yeah. which is the general fund. So 163 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,560 » they he's run out he's run short I think this year on it or 164 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,200 » it would be no different than having to come to the it actually 165 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:52,079 » to try and get money out of the council. >> It's no it's not any different. 166 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:55,440 » All right. I got off on that. Sorry. Um but the gate is something I am looking 167 00:12:54,079 --> 00:12:57,279 into. Just want to >> just get some numbers and we'll look at 168 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:04,800 it. >> Yeah. Um hopefully to come out of that 169 00:12:59,839 --> 00:13:10,639 or out of your budget somewhere. Um but on the personal vehicles the um camera 170 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:16,079 here is another comment I wanted to make. You had and I don't remember what 171 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:19,839 it was. Curt bird over >> Oh, eagle. 172 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:23,360 » Yes. Um we couldn't see the screen at home. 173 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,560 » Um if there's no way to turn the camera to see that screen 174 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,519 » or put it on this one >> because 175 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:34,240 » that was so disappointing that at at home we couldn't see that. If you will 176 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:36,639 look online, they have several YouTube videos. Eagle View does 177 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:41,680 » with all that on it. >> It has it just as an example of how that 178 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:47,040 that software system works. It's >> YouTube cameras are set here 179 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,680 » so I can't do anything. >> And tonight no one's watching. 180 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:53,360 » Yeah. >> I don't know what that is but 181 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:57,680 » um and my last thing >> okay 182 00:13:53,920 --> 00:14:05,839 » is on um with this parks board. There was a little hoo-ha last month um with 183 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:11,760 our parks director, misunderstanding or not, but I think there needs to be a 184 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:17,279 policy in place where when a personnel policy is talked about 185 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:26,800 at personnel. I have no idea what those are. um that I would assume it would be 186 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:32,000 HR contacting in writing um the director or department head 187 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:38,560 um in order to clarify some things. Um this had to do 188 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:46,560 with the overtime. Um it it was done wrong. Um Greg took the fall for it and 189 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:51,440 he should not have. Um, whatever happened there happened, but I 190 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:57,440 did want to make a comment on that. That that needs to be handled totally 191 00:14:53,199 --> 00:15:01,600 different and in writing for the board to see. 192 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,839 » I don't know anything about that either. >> So, you've caught us off guard on that 193 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:07,040 one. >> Okay. I can send you the emails. 194 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,320 » Okay. Okay. If you would, you know. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. 195 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,440 » Okay. I'm here for another reason, too. >> Okay. 196 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:19,519 Um, Greg, since he was doing maintenance, 197 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:28,240 checked on trying to get us another fan hooked up in the cooler area of the 198 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:35,760 corner's office to try to remove some of the odors at times. 199 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:42,639 And last week, we had a situation where it got pretty nasty. Uh, we had every 200 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:49,839 fan on in that whole building trying to get rid of the odor. We finally we 201 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:56,240 finally did. But u Greg checked on a a price of fans from I 202 00:15:53,519 --> 00:16:01,040 think Valley Supply or one of them and it was a little bit high. But I'd like 203 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:08,800 for him to try to come up with a maybe a cheaper fan cuz we got two u areas in 204 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:13,680 the cooler area that they used to be uh duck work that went outside. If we could 205 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:21,040 put a fan in one of those, try to help draw that odor out, it would help a 206 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:27,759 bunch. Now, Pam was out there after the autopsy, and it had a lot of it had 207 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:32,240 left, but at the time when the autopsy was going on, [snorts] 208 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:37,120 uh, Mr. Ramsey from the high school was out in front of the health department, 209 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,680 he was out there gagging. It was so bad. And um 210 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:46,000 » so but let me let me envision this here. Do you have seals on your door? Your 211 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,959 metal door. >> Yes. But uh 212 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,480 » Okay. And then you got an overhead door in the back, right? 213 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:57,680 » No, we have double doors in the back. >> Okay. But a a bigger opening. And 214 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:03,440 » we had the big we had two big exhaust fans going plus the over with plus the 215 00:17:01,199 --> 00:17:07,039 fans in the what I call common area where all the vehicles are parked. also 216 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:10,640 the fan going. >> Well, but what you want to do is take 217 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,039 all of your air and make positive pressure, taking the air out. 218 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,640 » We was pushing >> and sucking air from inside of the 219 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:21,439 building and pushing it out. And what you don't want to do is have a return 220 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:25,280 air in your room that allows the the the return to be pulled out of your room 221 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,960 because then it just pulls it into the HVAC system and circulates through the 222 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:31,440 whole building. You shouldn't have had that much with a set of double doors and 223 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,840 that. I mean, >> we had everything. I I get it, but I 224 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:40,080 mean uh um >> there's ways to mitigate that. 225 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,720 » We had the two big exhaust fans that's portable that Steve's got out there. We 226 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:49,360 had one of them sitting inside the building blowing through my 227 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:54,640 office, the other one outside the double doors out back underneath the canopy 228 00:17:51,919 --> 00:18:00,080 pulling through to trying to pull the smell out. But it just went uh through 229 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:06,880 the whole building just and it didn't take long either. But like I said, Greg 230 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:12,400 looked at uh trying to find a price and the one that he had was pretty expensive 231 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:16,799 and I told him that was too that's to me it was too much money. But I like for 232 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:23,679 him to try to go ahead before he leaves try to get another fan to put in the uh 233 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:26,559 cooler room to pull some of that air. >> But cool your cooler room doesn't smell, 234 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:32,480 does it? >> It does when you have a decomposed body 235 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:37,200 in there. the whole build basically the whole building does and uh 236 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:40,000 » I think you need to control so that air doesn't get into the rest of the 237 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:44,960 building in some >> there's I don't know how how a person 238 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,120 would do it cuz um if >> it's hard because the building is 239 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,160 combined >> yeah it is I mean and 240 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:53,520 » I mean if you were separate it'd be a lot different but you're not 241 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:59,039 » when you was out there it had dissipated a whole bunch I mean but there for a 242 00:18:55,919 --> 00:19:05,360 while the nurses called >> me and said, "Can you do anything about 243 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:09,600 the about the smell, the odor?" And we did. We had everything. 244 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:14,640 We had everything going possible, but it was still And I don't know if one more 245 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:19,760 fan would work, but it it's bound to help some. But like I said, we had every 246 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:27,440 fan and going in that whole building, the overhead in the common area, the 247 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:30,799 that uh the old kitchen, we had the fan going in the kitchen. We had 248 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:34,320 » I I got a feeling you were doing more damage by running all that you're 249 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:36,559 recirculating that air through the building. 250 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,200 » Well, I don't know where you I mean, if you push it out. We was pushing it out. 251 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:43,200 But it's still uh 252 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,840 » you got to create a negative pressure inside of your room. 253 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,280 » You'd have to seal the whole building up and then I don't know how you're going 254 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,160 to seal that whole building up. Have negative pressure to 255 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,320 » you have to seal yours up. Yours is where the yours is where the smell is. 256 00:19:54,799 --> 00:20:00,080 Sealing the rest of the building up is not the answer. it's yours and making 257 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:05,360 sure that your building then >> but pushing it outside and it's sucking 258 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:09,039 back in anytime those big overhead doors are open it right back in. 259 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,480 » So were they open? >> No, they was closed. 260 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:17,120 » So it didn't come in that way. So some other way it got in there. It's just uh 261 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:24,080 you need to come out sometime when nurses call you because they uh this is 262 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:30,400 not the first time and usually it's three four times a year that we have a 263 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:37,440 situation this bad. But this one uh last week was probably the worst that I have 264 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:40,159 smelt in eight years out there. It was and 265 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,159 » you can have him explore some options if he can come up with something. 266 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:48,559 » Pricing from another vendor also. >> I mean, anything would help just cuz if 267 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:55,520 we can get some of that smell out before we even start the autopsy would help. Uh 268 00:20:52,400 --> 00:21:00,559 but our cooler area, the whole the cooler even yet today you walk in the 269 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:04,799 cooler, you still got the lingering odor even in the cooler yet today because it 270 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:09,400 was so bad. But I'll get with Greg again. Thank you. 271 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,400 » Thanks, 272 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,799 » Adam Meyer. 273 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:29,120 Hello. I'm an employee for the highway department and uh I just wanted to make 274 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:32,720 some comments on the proposed change the handbook. 275 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:38,799 Uh I myself I would like to see the Monday through Friday or Monday through 276 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:45,679 Thursday 40hour week stay the same. Um cuz uh when I took this job 277 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:52,960 uh took a pretty good pay cut to come here and the most attractive thing about 278 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:58,480 this job was the uh 410s Monday through Thursday work week 279 00:21:55,679 --> 00:22:04,159 and uh you know the the insurance is expensive average. I actually declined 280 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:11,200 it. Uh the pay is uh below average for a CDL 281 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:15,400 professional driver. And I think if you take the uh Monday through Thursday 282 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:22,240 work week away, uh there's really not many things that are left about this job 283 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:28,400 that are attractive to somebody wanting to come in, guys wanting to stay. 284 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:35,039 Um uh from what I understand uh we have 285 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:40,480 four open positions right now, soon to be five here in a couple weeks. 286 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:47,360 Nobody's applying for the job. There's not a lot attractive about the job. 287 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:51,200 And uh that's I just want to make those comments before you vote on it. 288 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:57,520 » Yeah. I think there's one thing that everybody keeps misunderstanding 289 00:22:54,159 --> 00:23:04,080 is that I think the proposal was not getting rid of the 10-hour work days. It 290 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:09,120 was simply 410. A portion would work from Monday through 291 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:14,480 Thursday. Another group would work Tuesday through Friday. So, everybody's 292 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:19,840 still working four 10-hour days. You're just getting coverage on that Friday. 293 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:24,559 » Yeah. So, I mean, and at some point, I mean, that can be rotating, however that 294 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:30,799 works out. I think that was offered to Steve if he can come up with a plan. Um, 295 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:35,440 you know, he may he may want to swing his shift in some way where you don't 296 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:39,600 work on Friday and you don't work on Monday and then all of a sudden you get 297 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:43,440 four days for farming, you know, and that might work out better. And then, 298 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,679 however he would set it up, I don't think anybody put any restrictions on 299 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,600 him. It's just simply to get coverage for Friday. And I think that was the 300 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,960 intent. It wasn't necessarily going to 58. 301 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:59,520 » Well, I myself would like to see it stay the same. And pretty sure I can speak 302 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:03,440 for most of the guys, probably all the guys like it stay the same. 303 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,960 » Okay. >> Thank you. 304 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:16,960 » Next item we have is uh approval of the minutes from 113 2025. 305 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,080 » Make a motion. I'll second it. All those in favor? 306 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:24,080 » I >> I. 307 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:27,720 » Next item up is the payroll for 11072025 in the amount of $181,468.58. 308 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:32,960 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? 309 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:40,600 » I >> for the same date 11:07 2025 payroll 310 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,600 withholding in amount of $38,614.90. 311 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,320 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? I 312 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,320 » health claims in the amount of $135,54151. 313 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,440 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? 314 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,960 » I. >> Sheriff's pension fourth quarter payment 315 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:03,960 in the amount of $38,5025. 316 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:11,840 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? 317 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:16,000 » I. solid waste claims for 11182025 in the amount of $335. 318 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,039 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? 319 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:27,559 » I. >> Accounts payable claims for 11182025 320 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,559 in the amount of $941,638. 321 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,919 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? 322 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:43,640 » I. additional appropriations out of the general fund for liability insurance in 323 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,640 the amount of $23,384. 324 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:52,240 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor. 325 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:56,480 » The next item is the one that I modified. Uh we went through the 326 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:01,440 process. We have an edit plan that determines where the money goes. It 327 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:09,520 split into about five or six different categories and we had some money in a 328 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:17,600 general pot that didn't get distributed for some of 23 24 and 25. And in order 329 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:23,400 to balance it out and get all of the other funds, we came up short 330 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,400 $76,872.38. 331 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:34,880 The only thing we have flexibility with is our special projects fund. So I'm 332 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:40,559 suggesting that we pull it out of that with the stipulation the overpayment 333 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:46,640 went to operating the jail so that if any additional revenue that remains in 334 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:52,720 the jail account at the end of the year 2025 December 31 it will transfer back 335 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:56,799 into special projects. And this amount should be a little lower than what it 336 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,039 is. >> Motion. 337 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:05,440 » I'll second it. All those in favor? >> I. 338 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:14,240 » Uh, next item up, we have cash transfers uh to the highway department. We are 339 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:20,880 moving $200,000 from uh 1173 fund, which is motor vehicle highway 340 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:26,400 restricted. We're also uh switching out of 4923 lit edit highway and this is one 341 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,960 of the accounts that was affected 200,000 into the local road bridge 342 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:36,080 matching grant and this is to pay for matching grants for the pavement we've 343 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,039 been carrying out u throughout the county this year. 344 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,400 » I make a motion. >> I'll second it. All those in favor? 345 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:48,240 » I. >> Next item up, we have a PCDC affidavit 346 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:54,240 for payment. This is on mitigation related to uh the Riverview West 347 00:27:52,320 --> 00:28:01,760 project. It's an ongoing thing that's been under contract. Uh it's paid out of 348 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:06,720 the bond proceeds from that uh project and um we're just required to uh to pay 349 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:10,320 it. >> I make a motion. 350 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,840 » I'll second it. All those in favor? >> I 351 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,640 » uh bid information for Hauling Rock. We're sending that out. I guess it's 352 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:20,960 you're advertising it now already, aren't you, Chris? 353 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:25,039 » And um I don't know what action we need on that. We just need to uh 354 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:29,679 » when it comes in, we'll look at the bids and uh 355 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:33,360 » we don't open those until December meeting. 356 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:36,960 » So, as long as everyone's aware of it, um it's out there and hopefully we'll 357 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:40,399 get several to participate in it. I don't know that we 358 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,320 » unless we want to make a motion to approve the advertisement of that. It's 359 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,200 I think it's Yeah, it's already >> did it. So, I don't know why 360 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,399 » Steve everything for that's in the specs that we did, right? [snorts] 361 00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:51,679 » Yeah. >> For the hauling. 362 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:56,640 » Okay. The next item up is the ride solution letter terminating the 363 00:28:53,360 --> 00:29:02,159 authorization and that says for 2026 and I don't quite understand because we 364 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,600 signed one for 2025, had had no discussion on this 365 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:11,120 » and now they're wanting a letter from us for 26. So, 366 00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:16,880 and I'm not exactly sure what they're wanting from us because it really 367 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:20,080 » we've never issued a letter for 2026. >> She said even though we weren't giving 368 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,679 them funding, >> we didn't give them any funding last 369 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:25,039 year. >> We didn't give them any funding that 370 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:30,159 they needed this letter for a grant with INDOT. 371 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:37,600 And since they they from what I gather from a is that they're not going to be 372 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:44,559 providing services in 2026. >> So why do we write a letter 373 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:48,880 for 2026? I mean I don't what we've got is one for 2025 that they sent in and 374 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:53,279 got a grant. >> So I'm a little confused as to what they 375 00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:57,039 haven't even came to us and discussed this with us. So I would ask that they 376 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:59,919 would show up and bring some clarity to this issue. 377 00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:04,799 » INDOT is requiring it. So if maybe they can send us what INDOT said just 378 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:07,440 » or explain it to us curious table for more info. 379 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,480 » Yeah, we'll table that one. I'd entertain a motion to table that till we 380 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,039 get additional information. >> Make a motion. 381 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:19,440 » I'll second it. All those in favor? >> I uh personnel policy handbook updates 382 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:25,120 that go into effect. Now we got the whole entire 383 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:28,480 yellow. What's changed? and struck out. >> I did you get that? Mine was clean. 384 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,880 » Yeah, I know. >> I thought it had yellow on it. 385 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,159 » It was when you printed it's like this. >> Okay. Cuz I page through there. I 386 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,559 thought this is what did they change? And then I didn't see anything marked 387 00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:42,000 and I thought where is that? >> Um 388 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,039 » table it. >> I'd want to table that so I can actually 389 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,159 read because I got to tell you I did not look at any of because I thought I 390 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,720 looked through the first part of it and I thought there's nothing marked out 391 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,120 here and I thought did that come through at another time. I didn't have access to 392 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,440 my emails because they changed my password on me 393 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,240 » and I didn't get >> there's a copy. So, you can I can get 394 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,480 another copy. It's marked in yellow. There's not much. 395 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,919 » That's what I was thinking. >> Let's see. There's one. 396 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,640 » Okay. Cuz I I didn't go through the whole thing, but I went through part of 397 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,320 and I couldn't see anything. >> So, I'd entertain a motion to table that 398 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,760 till our next December meeting. >> I make a motion. 399 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,919 » All those I'll second it. All those in favor? 400 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,080 Hi. >> Hi. 401 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:27,919 » Um, right here, the next one, this is just an information thing. We're getting 402 00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:31,440 ready. Uh, commissioner and council is going to be accepting letters from 403 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:36,080 residents who are interested in serving on one of our boards for 2026. The 404 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,240 applicants can submit their letter of interest through a link on our website 405 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:45,120 or if they're more comfortable, send it to a commissioner or council person and 406 00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:51,519 uh we will get our list put together and our deadline is December 26, 2025. So, 407 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,880 um we'll make those appointments our first meeting of the year 408 00:31:52,640 --> 00:32:00,159 » if they submit. The reason we did the um link on the website is because so many 409 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:04,159 times they're missed and we have to have a copy of all of those in the auditor's 410 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:09,200 office plus we have to have contact information. So we get all different 411 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:13,120 kinds of letters as far as handwritten that don't have address, don't have 412 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:18,240 phone number, don't have email or we get a forwarded email. We've even got copies 413 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:25,120 of Facebook printouts. So that's why we did everything on the um online set up 414 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,120 an online Google sheet that you can do. It'll create a spreadsheet which will go 415 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:34,960 directly to um whether it's the commissioners or council on that. So um 416 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,240 it pops right up on the website. Um and then also there's a link if you don't 417 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:44,159 see it right when it pops up. >> And for those of you are intimidated, 418 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:47,840 you can send me, Pam, or Becky an email or provide it to us. 419 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:53,600 » Yeah. by handing it to us. That'll work. We're not wanting to shut anybody out 420 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:58,559 from from their ability to serve. So, um, next item up, we have our 421 00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:04,880 organizational meeting on Monday, January the 5th at 9:00 a.m. And, um, 422 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,880 that's pretty well all we have for tonight. 423 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,360 » Did you? Yeah. 424 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,840 Well, come on up, Steve. We don't have you on the agenda. 425 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,840 All right. 426 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Got a transfer request from gas to equipment rental, $7,500. This is to pay 427 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:44,320 Duros Excavating for busting those rock ledges out over there on Apricot Road. 428 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,720 » From gas like fuel from one item to the next. Okay. 429 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:49,440 » It's on the council agenda. >> So, this is something we don't have to 430 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,600 deal with. >> Well, I like to I always try to marry it 431 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,120 to you guys so you know what's going on. >> So, we're going from fuel to what 432 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,159 » to equipment rental. >> Okay. 433 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:03,440 » And end up being 7500. >> We think it's going to be less than 434 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,519 that. He's We got a couple more days to go on yet. He thought he was going to be 435 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:12,159 under that amount. >> Okay. 436 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:17,200 » When he was in yesterday. Then I have a additional appropriation for uh this is 437 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,520 for phase 2A on the bridge inspection for $24,372. 438 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:33,760 Um this will start January the 1st and we get 80% of that reimbured from INDOT. 439 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:35,040 » Okay. Now we're under contract with that one, right? 440 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:40,960 » Yes. >> Okay. So this is but it's going to be a 441 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:46,480 26 pay. >> It's going to be Yes. 442 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:48,320 » So should we be doing that in 26? >> Um 443 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,359 » because I don't know that we can appropriate 444 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,839 » appropriate that in 2025's budget if it's in 2026 budget. 445 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:59,119 » Yeah. Okay. >> Add a 2026. 446 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:05,760 » I think that money is set there. I the we have a bridge contract with pdarn and 447 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:09,520 lock miller for inspection and u we c we really can't appropriate money for 26 448 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,880 » not till after March >> even contract carryover 449 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:20,640 » you have to encumber it you encumber it but you're not encumber you're using 450 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:22,800 2026 funds corre appropriation or I guess I need to understand a little bit 451 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:26,240 more >> where's the money currently at do you 452 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,880 know what >> come out of next year probably. 453 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:33,680 » Okay. See, >> I had to send in a federal request for 454 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:39,200 funds which will be issued in December and they can't start to January. So the 455 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,400 it'll actually come next year. >> You think they're going to recede it in 456 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,400 in December? >> I thought thought that's what we 457 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,200 normally did. >> Okay. So if that happens, you need to 458 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:50,400 encumber that money >> and then we appropriate 459 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:54,160 » and then appropriate it in 26. It's already there, but but it doesn't need 460 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:57,040 to be needs to stay there. Pay that bridge contract. 461 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,079 » Okay. We're going to bring 462 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,520 » then additional appropriation for 400,000. That's that transfer you guys 463 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,400 done. That has to be >> that's where that intent to appropriate. 464 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,920 I was going to say that >> we've already done that. 465 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:15,119 » They approved the transfer with intent to appropriate. We just 466 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:20,480 » then I have a additional appropriation for 161,000. That's for the new trucks. 467 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:23,520 Is there any updates on on that? 468 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:27,520 » I think we have to I think we're still in the comfort phase. Whenever you have 469 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,160 one of your employees come up here and tell us you're short seven or five 470 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,720 people. >> That's six people now. 471 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,880 » Okay. Six people now. >> Yeah. 472 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:40,400 » It's uh >> or will be next week. 473 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,800 » Right. So I think we have to work this truck issue out. 474 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:47,200 » Did you get the >> Yeah, I got the list of it and 475 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,760 » Okay. There's nothing on their low mileage. 476 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,720 » Yeah. And then I think there's others though. I think you still got some other 477 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,440 trucks out there. Are they need to leave the fleet? What we do, the ones we park, 478 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:02,880 we strip parts off of them until we get everything off of them that we can use 479 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:08,079 and then we have some kind of a closed bed or sealed bed or auction or 480 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:13,359 something to get rid of them. But we've got uh 481 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,800 we've got some trucks that we got one truck that just pulls a patcher. It 482 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:22,960 ain't f it's a whole rock in it. Just pulls patch around. It's an old 483 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:27,280 » Yeah. Do you have one suitable to put a a tank on it to uh put some material 484 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:33,040 like uh >> We've got a an old mechanic's truck 485 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:37,599 that's one of our older ones and it doesn't have a bed on it. We're 486 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,640 going to try to put a brine tank on it, >> right? 487 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:45,920 » And use it for putting brine down when we put brine down. But I've got seven 488 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:50,560 trucks that are capable of plowing snow right now. We got one of them's broke 489 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:55,280 down. They're putting a head on it, but I got seven now. And we normally use 490 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:59,520 eight big trucks and four pickups to plow with. So, we're short of truck 491 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:05,359 right now for plowing snow. >> Now, did these all get new bids? Because 492 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:09,520 I know came in for some ARP money and and bought salt beds. 493 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,960 » Yeah, the these three new ones will have new stainless steel plows and salt beds 494 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,599 on them. >> I'm talking about what your Cuz you got 495 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:19,599 the ARP money back a year or two ago. >> Yeah. Yeah. 496 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,839 » Did you buy you bought >> We bought stainless beds then to replace 497 00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:27,359 our old beds that was rusting away. >> So out of these seven trucks, are they 498 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:32,160 all new beds on them? >> I don't think they all are. 499 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,240 » How many are? >> Besides the three new truck, there's two 500 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,599 new stainless. >> So we're Yeah. 501 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,720 » Okay. So wait a minute. >> There's five. 502 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,920 » So you have five beds of stainless stainless beds and 503 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,720 » the rest of them then are carbon. Mhm. Okay. 504 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:59,920 Okay. All right. I think we're not I mean I'm 505 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:04,720 not ready to buy a dump truck tonight. Are you? Or 506 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:11,839 I mean um we need >> I don't see a need for three. Um I I 507 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:15,359 would prefer Becky be here, but I just I have a hard time with three. Um 508 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,160 especially because of the need for the drivers right now. Now, I don't know if 509 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:27,119 we can hold off on one until next year. I'm not saying not saying no at all. I 510 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:29,920 » The only problem with that is she had it figured where we could pay for them out 511 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,240 of this year's budget. That's what we was trying to do is pay for everything 512 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480 this year. >> You're not going to lose it though, are 513 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,400 you? >> No. 514 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,560 » You're you're I mean, your budget doesn't get zeroed out. 515 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,760 » No. >> Where you're paying for. Okay. 516 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,240 » The cash doesn't go away. Yeah. I mean the appropriate 517 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,280 » the main thing is so so it's not something within his budget that he 518 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,880 needs to spend or he loses it. >> No, the cash will stay in the funds that 519 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,800 it's been the >> funds will still be there and and we can 520 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:58,480 have that discussion here next year. >> The price could possibly go up. I don't 521 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,400 know when the price will raise, but that could possibly go up. 522 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,640 » It'll be a year before we need these trucks. 523 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:08,400 » Yeah. >> Year before we pay for them. 524 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,680 » Year before we get them. We going to pay for them 525 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:16,160 » out of this year's budget. Order them and lock the price in. It's what we was 526 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:19,520 hoping to do. But >> and then we we just don't pay for them 527 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000 until they deliver them, right? >> Yeah. Okay. 528 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,680 » So, we'd encumber that because we'd have a purchase order for it. 529 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:30,240 » You're It doesn't matter because if it's a fund that doesn't zero itself out, 530 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,839 he'll still have the money. We don't have to encumber it, 531 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,680 right? just I mean I he doesn't need to be 532 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,960 anything if he's if he's losing his money just have to re 533 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,000 » I see the urgency but if he continues to get a hold the money 534 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,480 » then uh >> we just 535 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,440 » you know a meeting or two in between here is not going to make a significant 536 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:53,040 difference especially if you're going to get him in a year 537 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:58,720 » the only the only potential would be is if they raise their price on that' be 538 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:03,680 our only risk >> I think there was a to look at that 539 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:07,240 quote again I think it was valid 90 Is it okay? 540 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:16,480 » Then I have the uh application to bore on Girl Scout Road. 541 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,400 I sent that today. >> And then So that's Comcast. 542 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:25,440 » Yeah. Here's Yeah, I think that's who it is. 543 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:30,079 » Yes, it is Comcast. >> And there's a map of it. 544 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:32,640 » Do they fix that then once they're done? Well, when they bore it like that, 545 00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:36,160 there's usually >> Do they sleeve it or not? 546 00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:39,200 » I think they're going to sleeve it. Yes. >> Okay. 547 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:42,480 » They just bore under the road and they don't actually. Yeah. 548 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:45,480 » Hopefully. >> Right. 549 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:52,960 It's kind of hard to tell from these pictures where exactly it's at, but 550 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,319 » Yeah, I know. That's why I looked at it. I thought it 551 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,839 » envision where it's actually coming across. 552 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:03,359 » Yeah. So, I I don't have any problem. 553 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:08,800 » Yeah, me neither. It's hopefully it'll provide service into that area that 554 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:13,359 » they don't currently have. >> So, yeah, I'd entertain a motion to 555 00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:15,920 approve the boring of it's Girl Scout Road, right? 556 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,240 » Mhm. >> By uh BSM Group. 557 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,400 » Yeah. >> Who's working for Comcast? 558 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:28,319 » Yeah. >> I make a motion. 559 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:34,680 » I'll second it. All those in favor? Hi. >> So, we need to add that 560 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,680 » and you need to sign that. 561 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:43,359 » They have started the paving on Branchville Road yesterday. Hope to get 562 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:48,240 that done. You know, if it quit rain for a few days, we can get that done and get 563 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:51,040 those other paving. They're supposed to start on that this week. But the 564 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,160 weather, I don't know if they'll get started or not on that stuff. you 565 00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:00,400 talking about like the big major patches out on some of the other roads? Yes. 566 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:05,119 » I I just have one comment to make on the highway department and the schedule. So, 567 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:10,319 the whole the whole idea was because we were behind on work and I will honestly 568 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:14,240 say they've been kicking butt. They've been stuff 569 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:20,240 » especially for 10 guys. >> So, kudos to to to your crew and they've 570 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:25,599 been safe doing it and greatly appreciated. I am seeing a big 571 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:29,119 turnaround, but it's not, you know, just keep that in mind. It's not because we 572 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:35,040 want to punish anybody. It's because we were behind on work. Uh, and if we're 573 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:39,040 getting that caught up, that's a that's what we're supposed to be doing. So, but 574 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,720 I want to say they're getting there and it it is 575 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,720 » Yeah, it's just >> people are noticing takes a little 576 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,160 while. >> Greatly appreciated. And if we get bids 577 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,599 on some of these people that'll provide additional services and that's part of 578 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,319 the plan. >> I mean I think we're open just just to 579 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,560 get the work completed. I mean that's that's the goal. You get short-handed if 580 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,040 you can contract somebody to help you out. 581 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:03,599 » By all means that's that's what we're here for serving the serving the public. 582 00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:07,760 So >> Moser has been a big help on this 583 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:12,640 apricot and cottonwood. We we couldn't hold the rock the amount of rock. Oh and 584 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:15,359 the tide road. We got that slide fixed. It's repaired. 585 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:16,800 » Good. So, you're ready to >> slap a patch on it. 586 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,240 » Yep. >> Good. 587 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,920 » And uh I've got that in with it to do that. 588 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:28,720 » We reused about 800 ton of little over 800 ton of rip wrap on that. But my guys 589 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,960 done it in four or five days, three or four days. We didn't have, you know, we 590 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,760 didn't ain't no ton of what it would cost to hire somebody there and done 591 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,800 that. If >> you can get it done, it's going to be 592 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:43,839 less expensive generally than what it is to hire a contractor. It was a challenge 593 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:47,040 to get that done and work on apricot and cottonwood at the same time. No more 594 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:49,280 guys, but >> they got tied done now. So, 595 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,680 » well, good. >> Maybe we can get some guys put in 596 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,160 applications for hopefully. >> Thank you. 597 00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:01,599 » All right. Thanks, Steve. >> Okay, with that said, I next meeting is 598 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:04,640 December 1st at 9:00 a.m. >> Can I make a motion? 599 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:10,880 » Sorry. >> Do you need something, Cindy? 600 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:15,119 » On your board appointments. The CRDP has lost a member. It was supposed to send 601 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:19,680 » emailed today. >> He emailed it today. So, 602 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:24,880 » we'll get somebody on there. >> Okay. 603 00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:28,319 » Yep. >> You made a motion to adjurnn, right, 604 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,800 Pam? I'm going to second that. All those in favor? 605 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,040 » I >> Good night. 606 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:41,920 We're still