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Yes. So, Andrew is uh with us is here
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Andrew, if you want to kind of give a
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where we are with Brookside.
>> Yeah, for sure.

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» So, the township is proposing a
potential tax income financing district

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with the Brookside development. that
Brookside development is located

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in southern part of the township

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part of that tiff. It's just a very
standard 10 year 75%.

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So it'll be not a percent tax paid
diversion of taxes that allow the

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township to use that property tax
revenue to pay for public

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infrastructure. It's only going to be
related to the actual development

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that'll be the Brookside Colleges
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» The boundaries of the tiff district are
specifically for the what 23 homes Amy

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» 22 homes right there's that 15 acre
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only going to be that parcel that
development field and then be any of the

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neighboring parcels.
>> Yeah. just a redistribution of about the

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15% that
anyway it's redistribution of tax money.

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» That's right.
>> Um and so that does not impact anybody

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else's that's already in a home over in
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lower their taxes, nothing like that.
>> Has no impact on really even the

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homeowners. It won't impact them. They
would pay their property taxes just the

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way it normally would. The way the tip
will function is if the township

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trustees decide that they would like to
pass this resolution at an upcoming

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upcoming meeting, we will then send on
that information to the county auditor.

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The county auditor will set up what's
known as a tip fund. It's essentially an

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escrow account. The money will then as
it's collected via normal property

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taxes, the auditor will just transmit
that money and send it into the tit fund

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for that 75% and then the township will
have access to that to use for public

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referees.
Um, I did reach out uh to the

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superintendent. Uh, we're trying to get
on his calendar the end of this week.

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Uh, just as a courtesy, him and the
treasurer uh so they're aware of it and

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don't suspect there'll be any issues,
but as a courtesy, we do want to make

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that contact.

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» Does anybody have any questions?
>> Sure. One question. So tiffs can be used

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to vote for embedded domain
and so the residents of Brookside at

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least twice have stopped the opening of
my own court

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is this tiff. Let me get it on that
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It only impacts 20 22 homes over which
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the IM court. Okay.
>> There has nothing to do with that. I

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It's close enough that
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If there's nothing else under the uh tip
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excuse our council
and uh I will look for a motion to uh I

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guess close the public hearing.
>> I'll make a motion to close the uh

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public.
>> Yes.

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» Yes. Um we'll now move into our regular
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for that meeting is to approve the uh
minutes of August the 3rd, 2026.

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» I'll make that motion.
>> Second vote.

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» Yes.
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Uh next up will be excuse me public
comment period. But I see no resource

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from the sheriff's office. Uh so we'll
go with our neighborhoods. First up is

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Brookside.
Um, nothing new to report other than the

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what we've already discussed in terms of
the upcoming fall block party and you

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have everything you need on that.
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» Thank you
for the hills. I'll defer to our civic

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associated president.
>> Thank you, Chad. Um, well, good evening

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everyone. Um, my name is Joe Uig. I'm
the president of the Warthingington

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Hills Civic Association. Um here on
behalf of them and the board tonight

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um but also more importantly our
residents which I know all three of you

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are residents of our community as well.
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so thank you for the opportunity to
speak today. I wanted to bring uh an

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issue to your attention and I know the
civic association has provided you all

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with a copy of a letter we submitted a
couple weeks ago in July regarding

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ebikes and some of the concerns from our
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surrounding ebikes and safety around
those. Um I'll start by saying you know

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thank you. We the civic association
greatly appreciates the partnership we

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have with Kerry Township. Thank you for
all you do for our association and for

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our community. Um,
this is not a new issue. I know that

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this topic has been discussed before. I
think we just wanted to go on record and

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both detail some of the issues, some of
the concerns we're hearing from

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residents, but also and maybe more
importantly offer some common sense

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solutions that we hope uh the township
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we we set out um a couple weeks ago,
maybe more, about a month ago, on a

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listening tour with our residents uh
asking for feedback

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um surrounding this issue about ebikes.
Um and overwhelmingly the feedback we

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got was there's a concern that needs to
be addressed. Um, you know, if in my

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letter, and I won't go through all of
it, you know, we detail some of the

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incidents that residents have have seen
regarding the use of ebikes. You know,

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they're typically um utilized by miners
in the community. Um, inexperienced

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riders.
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concern. Um, with regards to some of the
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um, it's not isolated. There's been
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us. Um, that it's growing more and more,
you know, as the weeks go on. Um, and

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really the goal here is to again offer
some solutions before a more serious

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incident occurs.
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traveling too fast through the
neighborhood, not properly abiding to um

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public roadway laws, weaving through
traffic, um using their phones, texting

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while on these, riding after dark, um
not utilizing proper, you know, helmet

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wear, um doing stunts on the roadways.
Uh the list goes on and I won't go into

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it. I'm sure you're all aware of this.
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but again, we we're not here to we we
want ebikes to be utilized in an

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enjoyable manner um appropriate. That's
our goal and we don't want to discourage

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responsible use.
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but we want to make sure that young
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utilize these
and both in turn pedestrians have clear

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expectations in a safe environment when
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So again, our our goal here is to to
work with you all, offer some

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suggestions. There's blueprints out
there. I know other communities have

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taken action to enforce different types
of regulations surrounding ebikes. Um,

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we would support, you know, utilizing
doing some age restrictions surrounding

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ebikes. Um, you know, that's setting
minimum age for operating these uh

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motorized vehicles on public roadways.
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Um I I know in just you know speaking to
some of you and speaking to law

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enforcement I know there's been a big
emphasis from from law enforcement to

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help educate writers in the community
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» Um have you seen the letter that
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» it has been sent out waiting for the
approval on the flyer too. Okay.

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» So I'll send the vote to Got it. Okay.
>> Okay. Um and just I'll just briefly wrap

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up. I mean, you know, perhaps
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requirements that could be enacted. Um
safety education obviously is a huge

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component just like driver's ed for
driving a car. You know, these are these

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are typically minors that utilize these.
So perhaps there needs to be some more

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safety education requirements before you
can utilize these. Um and you know

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perhaps down the road targeted
enforcement if it's not these

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regulations are not being you know
adhere to perhaps you know that's the

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last step. Um but again we appreciate
the audience here tonight. I just, you

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know, the the board, the civic
association felt strongly to come before

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you all just go on record and state
that, you know, we're we're urging

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consideration to act and uh from a
township perspective. And again, we

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really appreciate everything you do for
our community. Um, and keeping our

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residents safe.
But we just encourage you to to look

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into this matter and uh we're happy to
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you for the time.
I'll I'll kind of defer to the chief um

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and he can explain kind of what we've
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is, you know, we're we're
our police department, like any police

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department, is bound by what's in the
Ohio Revised Code. So, you know, we

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can't place age restrictions on ebikes.
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um we can't
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know I think under Ohio law helmets
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classes of the ebikes. Um you know we
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Um I know like some communities are
doing that and again I'll let the chief

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speak to this but um
u you know one thing that makes it a

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little more unique in Worththingington
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like Upper Arlington and every community
obviously has a border but you know our

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neighborhood's pretty landlocked in a
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have Sharon Township you have city of
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and then in the back 40 area where where
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connects into Calat Farms and I know
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So, you really have four jurisdictions.
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and uh, so that just makes it a little
more unique as well. But I guess I'll

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turn it over to Chief Cisil so he can
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» Can I ask one quick, Michelle? Are you
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Um, we were seeing more of it until that
recent incident where the child was

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missing.
You recall?

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» Yes.
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anybody.
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don't know if that made folks kind of
rethink it or not.

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» There was some conversation with our
officers too about that about the

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distance. It's a little like u it's
something new. So I think it's you know

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it just you have to kind of get used to
it a little bit. you know, we had the

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same response, not response, we had the
same concern, I guess, you know, years

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ago about golf carts and and quite
honestly, I put some of the blame on the

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parade committee for that, you know,
because everybody in their mother's got

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a golf cart and I can't tell you it was
even today. I wish I had my c camera on

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my or my phone with me. People love to
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Green because there's really no traffic.
I can't tell you how many people let

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their, you know, seven, eight, nine, 10
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mom and dad are sitting in the seat next
to them, but there's no possible way

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this child's anywhere near 16 and
they're driving the golf cart, you know,

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on on circle on the green where, you
know, it's a circle. So sometimes, you

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know, when you go around, you can't see
cars and cars can't see you. So, but I

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think the golf cart thing for the most
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it's it's crazy the week of Fourth of
July. Obviously, I'm surprised there's

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not been more accidents with those, but
um but again, I'll let the chief tell

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you what what we've done to uh try to,
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» So, we we started doing targeted
enforcement and um if you want, I can

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send you some of those stats. We studied
that uh not the week before. So each

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week we'll have a different night where
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are on bicycles and we spend a little
extra time and making contacts and so

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forth. The one thing I know that was
talked about was a resolution here to

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say you know we pass a resolution to be
similar with the issue is my opinion

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when you pass a resolution becomes a
civil issue to where if you follow the

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Ohio Revised Code it's we have the
option of making it criminal need. So

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that's one of the things that and we're
going to adopt the same thing as the

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Iowa vice code. We already have it. So
it's just they try to target the

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enforcement educated form. Um I have a
letter and a uh flyer about ebikes that

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once they are happy with the flyer.
They've already approved the letter

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that's going to go out. We want to send
out to all our residents township wide

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so to speak. e blasted and then um
officer Schwab who comes to your yeah

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she will bring some of those flyers and
letters so people can she can pass them

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out at events and different things. So
we hope to try to educate the best we

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can and enforce what we have to if that
makes sense. And like I said we're going

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to continue the the um directed patrols
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weather gets the point where
a lot of the folks that you see causing

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the problem live on the Delbert County
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um kids have run from us from the
officers and they all go straight up

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fairway drive through the cut through
and into Delaware County. So, and uh

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this past week, our officer on bike
stopped a couple they stopped at a young

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man on a go-kart who was from Delaware
County and another uh ATV from Delaware

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County. So, unfortunately, some of those
problems are outside of the

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neighborhood. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'd be
appreciate that and we'd be happy to

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disperse that letter to association. And
if you want to let especially residents

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know when they see things, call call us
immediately. Call when they have problem

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emergency numbers because there's
especially if officers close by. It

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gives a better chance.
>> Yeah. Kids typically respond a little

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bit better. A police officer go back to
their parents. Well, what we find is

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when you call the parents over and say,
"Come here and because we have your

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child because they did this," they
respond a little differently, too. So,

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which is a good thing. Okay.
>> But yeah, please give us a call. Tell

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tell your drivers, "Give us a call if
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» yeah, I think just pick it up. But yeah,
I mean, he hit golf carts. And I I think

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because it's such a new mode of
transportation, people are getting used

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to it. So, I always say like when the
golf carts came out, it was like the

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pendulum was over here. It was like we
not only do we have kids driving it, but

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they're not they're not road ready. They
need brake light. I mean, the list went

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on and on and on. And I think they've
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transportation. And that pendulum is
kind of swung back where everybody's

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like that. I think I'm I'm sort of one
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live with it. I understand taking a risk
from a safety standpoint and everything

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like that, but but it's like I think
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pendulum's gonna sort of come back and
people will get used to it. I I think

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the big thing is educating parents cuz
parents have no clue what their kids are

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doing. I mean, I saw a kid, you know,
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» I was telling Chief, I was mowing my
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coming up coming up the thing and I was
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then what what do we do? Like how do you
do I do I stop the kid and say, "Hey, I

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want you to take me I mean that's the
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like how do you enforce something
whether there whether that kid was

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registered or not?
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then if you do catch it then the only
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police that's going to have any peak.
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that I'm just I think we're just going
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pendulum is going to swing back. But I
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on this and more like educate the nice
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So I think there's an opportunity to get
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them and you know say hey you know these
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that's that's sort of my take on on
where we're at in the whole scheme of

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things. self
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if we had an opportunity to work with
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education wise safety wise
and she petros

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thing is
would with the officers

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do we have the resources to be able to
work with the school to educate

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students parents parents like I know
they do the the Wednesday bus

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» bike bus bike bike
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too like the bicycle rodeo type thing so
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officer rising in the school all the
time there's always opportunity to kind

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of like the flyer can we get the school
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post it to school there's a lot of
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» connect that that way
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cognizant about in offering any type of
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is that we have nobody within our
organization that is certified to do

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that. So I think there is an expectation
of people who would send their children

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to that that they're being trained by
people who are trained to train

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and we don't have anybody. So,
>> so does Upper Lincoln have someone

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» or will they?
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available right now through Opata that
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» Maybe it's not training.
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what the laws are. It's more like
education on because I still think some

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people are very confused on
>> you need a license, you don't need a

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license, how fast can these things go or
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classes of ebikes until I did some
research and you know and two out of the

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three, you know, anybody can anybody can
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You got to wear a helmet. I think uh for
the class three ones, but you know, I

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know there's,
you know, there's there's a difference

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there, but I think a lot of folks might
not know that. You know, I think some

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parents just need to be reminded too
that they're responsible for their kids

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and if there's problems caused by their
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on the parents,
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I mean, it certainly wouldn't hurt to
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here's here's a letter that could be
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» with your information or attached I
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» electronically now.
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» You know, are is everybody going to read
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Does it hopefully connect a few dots for
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» I know that um Miss Miller had said
before anything we wanted to post, they

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have the board that's inside the school.
We can hang things there. So, I think we

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can probably post this kind of stuff
there. Um, I'm sure the new principal

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wouldn't have any issue with that
either. So, again, I think there's ways

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we can do that. And if you look on our
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several things about ebikes there. You
can print anything off that you want to

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share. Like I said,
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» Okay. And then, like I said, this one,
long as the board doesn't have any

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issues with this one, they'll come out
with um a letter. And like I said, I'll

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make sure you get copies of that, too.
>> Thank you, Chief. the book they want to

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do something for the schools. I think
maybe looking at the PTA or the parents

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association having the school send it to
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big part of this issue is that parents
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» the rules or
I think the potential of what these

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vehicles can do. um they they see them
as just electric bicycles when in fact

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they are they are more than that and I
think the education certainly the

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kids need to understand what traffic
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that's a parent's responsibility to
teach their children

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» well it you're it's not because you're
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we're talking about the elementary
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Right. So
>> the decision making abilities the

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information has to go to.
>> Yeah. I just think you know we can

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certainly talk to the kids.
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word this that we are not offering
training because we're not certified

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trainers and
just want to put us in a position where

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if something goes sideways they can come
back and say well this is what the

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police department was training us on.
Um, we're not certified trainers. We

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shouldn't be offering training in an
area we're not certified to train in. We

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can certainly offer education and tips
about here's what the laws say.

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» Well, and so I don't know what the
board's vision is on that, but that's my

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assumption was it was going to be some
reiteration if not a direct duplication

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of the same information that we're
looking to send to residents. But I I in

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in what we talked about tonight, I've
heard about what other communities are

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doing and some other communities are
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» So what is the board where are you folks
landing here on this? I mean is the

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intent to try to do some training on the
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» No. No.
>> I think I think it's I think we're we're

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going down the path that we should. It's
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you guys are doing what you're doing.
We're going to send it out. We're going

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to tell people what we're doing. we're
going to hopefully see um a change and

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then it's sort of peeling back the
layers of the onion once, you know, once

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we see what that happens, we'll, you
know, we'll adjust. If we need to amp

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things up, we'll amp things up if we
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we're just the pendulum's over here and
it's going to slowly it's going to

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slowly come back and uh you know, I I I
think it's educating parents that, you

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know, Johnny bought got an ebike. We're
going to buy Billy the kneebike cuz

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Johnny got one. But we don't really
understand because we don't want our kid

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to, you know, be, you know, all this kid
and I've got a regular bike. It's just

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and that's where the breakdown is
because they bought the kid the bike to

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do it and then now it's um, you know,
they're just not training or understand

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what they just bought their kid. So,
>> and I think the more parents that we

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call we stop their kids, I think that
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where we're at. you stop somebody for a
violation that's under 18, we're calling

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parents and making them come and release
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» including when it's senior time.
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» that also gets the word on I mean the
nice thing about Word and Tails being

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kind of in the bubble and like you said
and Brookside as well. It's like when

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something like that happens, they're
going to tell all the friends. Oh. So

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all of a sudden it's like we're going to
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then all of a sudden it's like I'm going
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because you were doing it
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parents to be aware that there's an
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» The other side of it is you have
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better so they stop and talk to the
officers. You have you have a group that

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when they see officers they will be
perfect kind of like traffic violations.

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Then you have others that will do it in
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going to stop. So it's kind of so
completely understanding the comment

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about uh the training aspect and not
being trained with the golf carts for

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instance. You know, now you had to have
the police come out and do an

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inspection,
>> do inspection, check off.

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» As part of that education, could there
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officer? I mean, I'm just thinking if
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enforcement agent on the front end,
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them to be more, you know,
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the front end.
>> And I think that goes back to kind of

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the education figure. And again, kind of
like the bicycle rodeo. Our bike

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officers participate in bicycle rodeo,
but they're not training anybody. what

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they're doing is explaining here what
the law what the rules are. They don't

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train you on it. They explain what the
rule says. So again, I think it's kind

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of the same thing. It's kind of what
we're trying to do is here's what the

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law says. You have to buy this.
>> So again, it's it's a

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we want to educate. I wish I sense what
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saying. That's really
>> in terms of like getting the word out in

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education. Does the uh does the civic
association put out any kind of a

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newsletter anymore?
>> We don't do a like a monthly newsletter.

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Um we do communications when needed. And
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from the hills. You probably remember
that.

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» Yeah. That that came out quarterly, I
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» back in the day. But
>> back in the day.

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» Back in the day.
>> Yeah. Yeah,

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» but um uh
>> we don't but we're always happy to

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» I mean I'm sure you guys have a pretty
good database because you get an email

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about dues every year.
>> Um but um you know maybe maybe provide

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the information to them and they can do
a separate like email blast.

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» Yeah, I'll do that too. there. I
guarantee there's people that are on

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your email database that aren't on ours.
And we're trying real hard to get more

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and more people to do that, particularly
like at school events and that kind of

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thing or, you know, even like at Epcon,
they're having a community night. We're

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going to try to It's so much easier to
communicate with people that way. It's

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so much more efficient to do that.

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So, keep pushing this side. Would you be
willing would we be willing to have

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conversation with the principal and the
PTA president and just kind of talk

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through this about
what they see as the best vehicle to

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communicate to both parents and
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» Don't see as an issue at all. Okay,
let's have a conversation

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with no clips
because they deal

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they deal with these kids every day. At
least the ones that go to the school,

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right? Not so difficult word, but the
ones who go to school, they also deal

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with parents some respect.
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just trying to figure out the
connection, the best effective

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connection that can be made from their
perspective. And I mean this with no

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disrespect, but the elementary kids
aren't the problem.

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» I know.
>> I mean, that's the whole thing. It's

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it's the
>> young teens and late teens that we're

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having issues with.
>> And hopefully though, you might get some

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with older siblings, you know? I mean, I
don't care if they get the same thing

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five times. Hopefully, it hits some of
the

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» That's why I said I mean it elementary
kids are the easy part.

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» Anything else, Joe? Anything else? No,
thank you for the opportunity to come.

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Yeah, thank you for coming in.
>> Anything else for Warington Hills?

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We never did upcon rebell.
>> Uh, let's see. Is the water backflow

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water thing on there?
>> Um, well, we're still waiting. Revel is

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going to have to do some work on a
backflow valve on our main water line.

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Uh, so they're going to shut water off
for about three hours. Um, I've been

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working with Upper Arlington Fire to get
their approval to do that. Um, they have

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to go through the UA's fire marshal
submit some paperwork. They'll have to

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issue a permit. Um, and then we'll send
that permit to the city of Columbus who

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actually owns that water line. They'll
send somebody out from the big big meter

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department. They have a what it's called
the big meter department. It's like

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commercial meters
and it'll be there while they do that

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job and make sure it's all put together.
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» so we're working on it then. They have
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we're kind of right now waiting on UA to
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And just a kudos to EPCON their HOA
after much frustration because they're

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they're not they're an independent HOA
at this point. They shared with us all

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their email to their uh residents. So we
have their email addresses and the

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authorization to use them for
announcements from the HOA

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» for EST.
>> Yeah. They have that authority to do so.

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So whereas Rebell doesn't, they're not
independent yet. They're not switched

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over. Um so um I just want to thank them
for doing that. It partly came from the

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fact of why the Colbert project on
Riverside Drive, why aren't you telling

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us? Well, it's because we probably had
about five emails from those people and

409
00:31:53,679 --> 00:32:01,919
ever so many. So, uh, it kind of was
generated as a result of that

410
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:07,519
conversation. So, I want to thank them
for doing that.

411
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:12,480
Anything else under public comment?
Zoning. Anything under zoning tonight?

412
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:18,640
» Nope. Road department.
A few updates on couple addresses. Um,

413
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:23,760
1632. I believe it's a water issue
they're having um in the gutter pan

414
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:30,799
freezing causing an ice block in the
winter time. Um I don't see any issues

415
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:37,360
with the
the water anything from the curb causing

416
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:41,760
the water to uh dam up. I think there's
a sump pump running

417
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:46,320
» continuously.
It's really hard right now to tell which

418
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:50,559
sump pump is causing that in the winter.
So, I can tell you they might have the

419
00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:54,399
same issue that I had if they're I mean,
it's hard to tell this summer, but the

420
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:59,519
summer that happened to me, it was bone
dry and my water line had a leak in it

421
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:04,320
as it was coming into the foundation
because they didn't used to sleeve it

422
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,720
and when it shipped it, it started to
drain. So, the water was coming down. I

423
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:13,919
wasn't seeing it in the meter, but my
sump was constantly running. So, but it

424
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:21,200
was constantly flushing out until I
found it. So that might be

425
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:25,519
» I think one of the neighbors runs
>> non-stop in the winter

426
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:30,000
» and and the only way they have to do it
Ian is they got to take a stethoscope

427
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:36,000
and they go like this up to the wall and
they'll hear the water running on the it

428
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,279
was seriously I had no clue couldn't
understand it but found it and created

429
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,360
all kinds of
>> But you did have that bonus bathroom in

430
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:47,120
your yard.
Oh, that was a different issue.

431
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,480
» We do find out where it's coming from.
>> Yeah,

432
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:54,360
» that can be brought up to the homeowner,
>> the residents. Um

433
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:04,080
807 Park Ridge and 1166 residents have a
reported uh

434
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:08,720
problems with their approaches. uh 1166
Blind Brook. They have a chunk missing

435
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:16,720
out of the uh the approach and uh
there's some deterioration on 807 Park

436
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:21,359
Ridge. I've got that plan to uh do some
uh concrete patching on that uh on the

437
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:24,639
driveways.
>> We're doing it, right?

438
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:29,440
» We're going to do it. We don't we didn't
do a contract this year. Uh we're going

439
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,000
to do this in-house. It's just going to
be patchwork.

440
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,280
» Okay. Um,
>> if have you have you let the residents

441
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,679
know the plans for
>> I will.

442
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:42,480
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Uh, then this I have an update. Well,

443
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:48,720
Steve had his rideway permit has been
issued. Um,

444
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:56,839
he did post the bond. Uh, I get a
paperwork to Mr. Roer. Uh

445
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,839
the back of the ball requires

446
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:05,359
chairman's signature
and then he's moving forward with the

447
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:09,680
work. Our estavator was delivered
Friday.

448
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,240
Um he'll be digging his foundation for
his new house soon.

449
00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:20,640
» He is planning on living out of a um
>> camper. Camper.

450
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:26,400
» What you call this house? He sold his
house and he moved out last week.

451
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,599
» Wait, last
he sold his house.

452
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:35,280
» His house is the one he's living in.
He's building his new house is the one

453
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:40,760
they're building. Uh he plans on putting
camper

454
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,760
out there while he's building.

455
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:47,839
» So it
camper on his property. Camper

456
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,720
» camper on his property.
>> Okay.

457
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,640
» Columbus side. Not not on the road.
>> Not on the road. No.

458
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:56,960
» Yeah. Okay.
>> Not in the back end or the back of the

459
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,720
property there.
>> We should park it up.

460
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:08,480
As long as it's out of the rideway.
>> Um, and then do we have an update on the

461
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:14,400
Brookside traffic homing?
>> Um, so I wanted to talk about that.

462
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:19,440
I was not here last time. I don't know
if you ended up. I apologize.

463
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:26,240
» Okay, great. So, it was, I think, a very
productive conversation. Um, got a lot

464
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:31,359
of resident feedback. Nora did reach out
after about what next steps are and we'd

465
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:35,760
like to get back on our calendar. We can
do the next meeting if that works for

466
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:41,440
everybody um for her to kind of review
and provide a revised

467
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:47,280
um deck based on the feedback of the
residents. The what we also need to kind

468
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:54,960
of tee up is based off of that
additional revision is timing for a all

469
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:59,680
resident review. Um now that school is
starting, you know, we can do that at

470
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:02,960
the school. That should be easy to book.
Um,

471
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,320
based on availability, I don't know if
you folks want to do like a whole

472
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:11,200
meeting like we've done before where
it's the it happens to be our standard

473
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,920
meeting. We just move the location or do
you want to do just a special meeting

474
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:20,400
for that?
>> I just do a special

475
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:24,880
» that you I was just going to do like an
open house meeting.

476
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,800
That was my business. I'll I'll do
whatever.

477
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,800
» And that's fine.
I don't

478
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,440
» I think a special meeting is probably
better just because

479
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,640
» people don't want to sit through
business, right? Unless it's an all

480
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:38,800
short meeting, but you know
>> that works.

481
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:43,119
» I think a special meeting is more to the
point. You'll get better turnout.

482
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:47,760
» The other thing that Nora raised in her
message to me is that we are reaching

483
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:54,160
the end of the scope of work that was
initially defined.

484
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:57,599
So, um I think the the recap and the
revision of the deck, it's my

485
00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:00,560
understanding, would be part of the
current scope, but we'll have to

486
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,079
determine if
>> she but her scope her scope included

487
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,119
that all
>> included the resident meeting. Correct.

488
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,000
I'm sorry. Through that, but then we
need to determine if if additional

489
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:14,480
action is needed.
>> So, does she re

490
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,839
» we can talk to her about that when we
have her on

491
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,079
» Okay.
>> for the meeting.

492
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:22,640
» That's fine. Yeah. I mean, I'm just
thinking obviously there are a couple

493
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,640
steps after y'all get me.
>> Okay.

494
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:28,240
» Okay.
So, if it works for you folks, then I

495
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,839
will confirm her availability for our
next meeting.

496
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:32,839
» Okay.

497
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,760
» Anything else under road department? U
Mr. Chainy, did you want to share the

498
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:46,920
new Aqua contact?
>> So, I did reach out. We have a new Aqua

499
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,920
contact is um

500
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:58,079
Maurice was our former contact. He's
moved on to another company position.

501
00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:03,119
So, uh I left him a message today and
ask for some available dates so that we

502
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:08,079
can at least have a kind of a get to
know you Mr.

503
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:12,960
» Yes. And so we'll get something set up
with you and

504
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Petrosi and just get to know each other
real quick and try to get a better

505
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,880
understanding of the conclusion of the
pro of the project that they have going

506
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:25,599
on and maybe what what they're looking
for 27. So when he calls back they'll

507
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:31,760
get some dates and shoot them your way
and on the calendar. Hey, I do have one

508
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:35,680
question for you on the roads. So, how
far down is that water line that where

509
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:42,079
they cut across club view?
>> About 5 foot.

510
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:45,200
» How are we going to address um are they
going to repave that entire

511
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,920
intersection? Kind of similar to how
they did over this over the school where

512
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:53,119
the where
hits Club View.

513
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,520
» It'll be one lane width.
>> It won't be as wide as how they did Club

514
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,240
View.
>> Okay.

515
00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:02,640
» At at Andlewood. It'll be the the full
lane. My my whole my concern is and you

516
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:07,200
can kind of see what's happening now
with the amount of traffic that keeps

517
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:11,680
hitting that lot. It's going to go and
coming from somebody that had a driveway

518
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,280
that you know replaced and it's down.
It's still settling.

519
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:20,880
» So I don't know what their requirements
for compacting whether they're going to

520
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:23,359
do it in lifts or what but that we
really got to make sure

521
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,440
» that seems like it's just temporary
right now.

522
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,720
» That is temporary. It's temporary
>> and it has dipped down quite a bit.

523
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,320
» Yeah. The cold patch that they're using
that's going to work its way out. Uh

524
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:38,000
they're going to do a full depth repair
of the trench of I think it's 10 in of

525
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,200
asphalt is what's on the plan.
>> Okay.

526
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,960
» And then they'll do the mill out across
there.

527
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,240
» All right. Cool. Are they going to
They're doing the fiber mat.

528
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:53,400
» They will not do the fiber mat. We
didn't do the uh

529
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,400
the agreement with them this year.

530
00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:00,640
Okay,
>> this is just

531
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:07,280
the one lane that they're required on
the specs to uh

532
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:10,560
» Okay.
How How many feet are in the township

533
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:16,119
though? I think it's not that much,
right? About 300 on each street. Okay.

534
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:22,640
I always think it goes like two houses
deep, maybe three. Very much.

535
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:31,280
» Yeah. And we'd be really hard to get
them straer SDI to come in to do 600 ft.

536
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:37,520
» Could we get
I mean we're the only the county doesn't

537
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:41,599
push this on their projects,
>> right?

538
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:47,280
» Do you think we could get the the
alternative? What's it called?

539
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,960
» What's circle on the green ask?
>> Well, I wasn't going to say that anyway.

540
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,560
Hey, if it's good for Circle Under
Green, it's good for everybody else.

541
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,920
So,
>> I have higher standards.

542
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:02,000
» Do you think we could have a
conversation?

543
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:07,520
» We could have a conversation, but it's
going to be hard to get any contractor.

544
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:11,839
The mobiliz mobilization fee to have
them come in to do 600 ft.

545
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:16,720
» Can they is going to be
>> extremely high. Can can can they can

546
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:22,880
they add
like we're we're doing um like our condo

547
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:27,440
association
coat's doing it and they're they're

548
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:32,240
putting a fiber mix into the asphalt as
they mix it and then when they lay it's

549
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,760
not like the fiber mat that we're doing
but it is a fiber that they're adding to

550
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,560
it.
>> Is there a ch is there a chance that we

551
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,800
can
>> look at that?

552
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,839
» We can look into it. See if we can
>> I'll send you the product that that

553
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,720
they're doing.
>> Does that road have fiber on it right

554
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:51,040
now?
>> Does Mission Hills and Sing?

555
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,520
» Mission Hills.
>> I suppose you could make the argument

556
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,240
that they got to put it back the way
they found it.

557
00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:02,160
» Well, that would be an inch and a half
of asphalt. Some of that were just going

558
00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:08,319
outside the township line or right
inside. We're finding like two inches of

559
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,839
asphalt, an inch and a half of asphalt
getting down through the base. They're

560
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:16,160
going to end up doing like 10. You said
>> they're going to fill Yeah. Okay.

561
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:20,720
» They're required in the trench
to to fill that to do the full depth

562
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:23,440
there. Uh and then the overlay.
>> Okay.

563
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:28,720
» But yeah, that Sharon has run into a lot
of problems where

564
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:34,000
the asphalt it's an inch and a half, two
inches thick

565
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:39,920
in a lot of spots.
I think what the board doesn't want to

566
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,720
see is the the hill on Sharon where it's
got that nice rut.

567
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:48,319
» Oh, I I agree.
>> I mean, again, this is a little bit

568
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:50,800
different. That's a slope. I get it.
>> I mean, a bottle deal.

569
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:54,800
» Yeah.
>> Yeah, that's

570
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:58,000
» that's bad.
>> That's one of those issues with the

571
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:03,200
fiber map.
That's one of the problems with the

572
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:08,319
fiber mat is they did the well they did
Sammy

573
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:12,240
they did fiber mat up the hill
um I mean it's a floating road

574
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,119
» right
>> on top of that old asphalt a lot of the

575
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,359
trucks
a lot of our construction trucks

576
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:26,480
» over the years have caused a lot of that
where it's hitting the brakes and

577
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:31,480
sliding that asphalt on the Tom reminds
me of it all the

578
00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:31,480
I'm sure he does.

579
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:39,839
» Anything else under the road department?
That's all I have. Fire EMS.

580
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:44,880
» I have an upper Arlington uh report for
the month of July. There were eight

581
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:49,760
calls uh into Perry Township. Uh six of
those were on Riverside Drive. One was

582
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:53,760
at Epcon. One was at Revel. I did not
receive a report yet from Warington.

583
00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:58,000
» Police.
>> Well, can I add one thing to that? I did

584
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:02,560
talk to Pete. They have not re supposed
to be receiving something from Wharton

585
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,280
to fire
and propose revision. He hasn't got it.

586
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:11,960
You haven't got it. So, nothing we can
do until they have a conversation with

587
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,960
us.

588
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:22,800
» Your manager is for two weeks.
my conversation with uh Chief Damito,

589
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:28,319
she's gone for two weeks or three weeks
on vacation and had directed legal

590
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:35,800
director the uh legal department to send
that over, but my conversation with Pete

591
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,800
on Friday was already fantastic.

592
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:44,359
» We have to wait on that.
>> Yeah, I mean we can't do anything to us.

593
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:54,880
um
police um received the um public records

594
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,079
policy and fee schedule that um you all
approved. Pete approved it, sent it to

595
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:01,920
the Frank County Pro office. They
approved it. So now it's a matter of a

596
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:05,200
start date of when we want to implement
it.

597
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:07,760
» Anything under eBike other than what we
talked about?

598
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,960
» No, I just have you all
>> we all approve. We've all approved that.

599
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,240
» This is the flyer. Just wanted to make
sure there was no issues or questions

600
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:17,680
flyer. As long as you are good with
that, I'll make sure it gets sent out.

601
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,800
» All right.
>> Do Do you need a an effective date for

602
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,599
the schedule?
>> I think you have I think you have to

603
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:27,599
adopt it. So, I was thinking
>> Yeah, we probably need a resolution to

604
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:32,560
» set that as policy
>> because that'll that that applies to um

605
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:37,440
admin as well for public records. So,
it's townshipwide.

606
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:41,920
So I would say
September 1st, October or something like

607
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:47,040
that where we have time to push it out,
deblast it, post it and say starting

608
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:51,280
this date, this is the new fee schedule.
>> Okay.

609
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,800
» Uh you want a date?
>> That's why I said I I think we could do

610
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:59,200
September 1st. That's still a couple
weeks out. Or do you want to go longer?

611
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:04,319
» Um well, if we have to do a resolution,
this has to be after a meeting, right?

612
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,760
» Yeah. I
We have training tomorrow. Let's ask

613
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:12,880
that question and then we'll put it on
the next meeting agenda. Okay. For the

614
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:17,599
9th. Okay. Okay.
Uh Mr. Administrator.

615
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,280
Um,
we currently send out quarterly

616
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:27,000
newsletters
and we have had some conversation about

617
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:35,680
trying to fill those
newsletters with articles on a quarterly

618
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:42,480
basis and sometimes we
rerun things. So the idea is or the

619
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:48,800
proposal is let's go to a semianual
newsletter. Every six months we'll send

620
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:54,560
one out. We can make it a little larger
in content

621
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:59,560
and we
we are not putting that um

622
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:08,720
I won't call it a burden on our as
township uh administrative assistant to

623
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:15,119
to put that together and get it out four
times a year. So I would ask

624
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:19,440
board's opinion and whether or not
they're in favor of that.

625
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:24,319
» I think she does a great job. First of
all, there's a lot of work involved in

626
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:28,319
it because it's a big document.
So,

627
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:34,160
I I don't know if it's twice a year or
three times a year or we're currently at

628
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,680
four times a year. And we we also think
I mean we also check will continue to

629
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:40,319
put out
>> eblast

630
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:46,079
» e-blass and notifications if something
big's coming up chipping seizing things

631
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:50,000
of that c you know but those newsletters
that provide the various articles from

632
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:53,280
all the department head
>> I think twice a year is full

633
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:58,640
» what about what about like doing it in
June for the for the fourth that seems a

634
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:04,160
major event we'll have it thing and then
the next one would be maybe December you

635
00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:08,400
because yeah
>> I think those are good timelines.

636
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,400
» Yeah, because usually in December you
kind of know the calendar for the

637
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:17,040
following year. So you can put a copy of
the magnet calendar version of that. You

638
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,040
can, you know.
>> Yep.

639
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:26,240
And there's stuff just to announce to,
you know, for the holidays. So that

640
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:31,440
maybe you do it like in November and
June or something. Whatever you whatever

641
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:35,920
you got to see, you know.
I think before the holidays and before

642
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:42,720
the 4th of July
>> in November maybe. So that's before

643
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:47,200
» maybe late May then November. Yeah. By
>> late summer return

644
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:49,280
too late.
>> Well

645
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,240
» be too late.
>> You can do it separate email blast and

646
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,200
all that.
>> Yeah.

647
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:59,200
» You know a little more aggressive with
the schools

648
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,760
short of taking hostages.
We can be more aggressive than we were

649
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:10,839
last year, but
all right, we'll keep driving.

650
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:10,839
Um,

651
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:25,359
has created, and I'll just send this
down real quick. She's created this

652
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:31,119
trifold little document that we want to
hand out at events that the police are

653
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:37,359
at where we're going to be much like
this uh event that's going to happen

654
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:42,400
down at uh uh Epcon.
And it just gives people information

655
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:47,839
about what they can receive
through the eblast. There's a there's a

656
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:53,040
QR code where they can go in and sign up
for the eblast.

657
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:57,040
It's a wellthoughtout and well put
together document. I we're just looking

658
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,559
for the board to say we're good with
that as something a piece of

659
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:04,720
communication that we will hand out to
people.

660
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:08,079
» I love it. I think it looks wonderful.
>> That's great.

661
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:12,480
» I have one
suggestion if it's not too late.

662
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,800
» Nope, not too late. the under the trash
and recycling section next to the QR

663
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,480
code. Y
>> it says the township does not provide

664
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,400
residential trash collection.
>> I get we are not the provider,

665
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,480
» but I think from our residents
perspective that's probably semantics.

666
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,920
You know what I mean? Maybe instead it's
Rumkey is the provider. You know what I

667
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,800
mean? Like here's what
>> Rum is our current provider.

668
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:37,760
» Rum is our current provider.
>> We're going to be coming up on agree.

669
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:41,040
Maybe something about who it is
>> that it's not us

670
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:47,880
» on behalf of the town.
>> Good point.

671
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,880
» Good catch. That's how a lawyer.

672
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:51,880
» That's free.
>> Is that

673
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,839
too
a couple other questions while you're in

674
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:03,119
the
>> the help desk?

675
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,640
» I I do think it looks great though. It
looks so professional. It looks like

676
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:10,000
somebody I can't believe that came out
of our our offices.

677
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:15,280
» I can't. Our people are that good.
>> Yeah, she she is amazing. And and I'm

678
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:22,240
going to kind of jump
>> That's my next item. Anyway, I'm going

679
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:25,760
to jump to this website update. Um we've
sat down, we've talked to three

680
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:31,040
different companies. Our our website is
the exact same website

681
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:37,920
layout setup as it was when we put it
together 11 years ago going on 12 years.

682
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,920
Pictures that were on that website were
pictures that were taken 12 years ago.

683
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,079
Um
so those places like those flower beds

684
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,319
that were in there, they don't exist
anymore. Everything has changed. So, we

685
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,800
thought about we probably update this,
but we can't update it because our

686
00:52:52,480 --> 00:53:01,040
current Civic Plus
that was not part of our package that we

687
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:06,480
bought. Um, and so they are willing to
help us put together

688
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:10,720
redesign. That's the term they use.
They're willing to help us redesign our

689
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:16,000
website and
make it a little better. and they can do

690
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:19,000
that for us at the low low cost of about
$8,300.

691
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:28,559
Then we met with um
SPG

692
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:32,880
which is a website
shoemaker technology group and it's a

693
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:40,319
website building company and they'll
build you a website um from scratch

694
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:48,319
and they will be glad to help us with a
website starting at about 34.95

695
00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:53,040
for a year for the cost. Then they have
additional little underlying costs that

696
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:59,920
if you need different things they they
charge you for. Um it is almost

697
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:06,000
identical when you look at how that
website works are almost identical to

698
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:11,040
Civic Plus. Um
I can tell you that the ladies sort of

699
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:15,520
responsible for our website find Civic
Plus to be very difficult to navigate

700
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:22,400
through. We also met with a company
called Revise.

701
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:27,040
Revise can help us design and build a
whole new website. And guys, again, all

702
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,599
this information is in there for you. Uh
so you don't have to belabor what I'm

703
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:38,480
trying to say here and and just consume
it all. But um Revise will build us a

704
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:44,079
whole new website.
It will cost us

705
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:48,680
um about
I figure out that number. I think it's

706
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,680
like $12,000.

707
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:56,559
But with that option, we can spread that
cost out over five years. So we're

708
00:54:53,359 --> 00:55:01,280
paying about $3,700 a year over five
years. And at the end of the fourth

709
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:06,880
year, they will give us a whole new
redesign. We will go back in and redo

710
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:11,280
the whole thing as a part of that cost.
So,

711
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:15,839
I I think I think at some point we got
to make them we got to make changes to

712
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:19,599
our website. I think we need to make it
a little easier. I think our ladies have

713
00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:24,720
demonstrated that they have some skill
sets that can really make what we have

714
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:29,280
available to our residents look
wonderful, but we got to give them the

715
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:34,800
tools to be able to do that. Um, and our
website, our current website with Civic

716
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:39,680
Plus is not the tool. Um, and I am not a
fan of the service we've gotten from

717
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,839
them. I've had to send several
emails that have been less than cordial

718
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,760
just to get some folks attention.
>> What What are we paying for Civic Plus

719
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:58,000
right now a month?
>> Uh, we pay Andy, I think annually

720
00:55:54,240 --> 00:56:03,359
over 4,000 5,000 a year.
>> Okay. I I I don't have I'm sorry. I

721
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:05,359
don't number I don't have
but I I'll get it for you.

722
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,920
» Okay.
>> But again I I just think

723
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:12,640
» so not a month.
>> Oh no no no we pay annually.

724
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,599
» No no no five. So it's 5,000 a year.
>> Yes.

725
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:20,160
» Okay.
>> Right. And in this company this revise

726
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:25,040
would be 30 someund a year over five
years.

727
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:29,920
And again in that fifth year, fourth
year going into the fifth year, we would

728
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:33,440
do a complete redesign as a part of that
cost.

729
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:38,640
» Apologies if I missed it, but are they
would they also be hosting the same?

730
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:41,440
» Yes, they are the host.
>> So you're saying it's less than what we

731
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,599
pay now?
>> Yes.

732
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:53,040
» But we get a ref we get a revised plan
and we we build this cost out over

733
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:58,400
» over that five years. If we go with
Civic Plus to redesign what we have, we

734
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:02,640
got to pay him the $8,300 upfront. And
that's really um well, if we're not

735
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,680
happy with Civic Plus, this is one of
those things where

736
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:12,319
if if cost is about the same, maybe even
if it's a 10 more,

737
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:16,160
you know, I like to think we give our
police chief the tools he needs, I the

738
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:19,599
tools he needs. We don't really talk
sometimes about, you know, office

739
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,599
people, but you know, we have talented
people there and and they know what they

740
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:28,920
like and they don't like and I think you
ought to if the price is, you know,

741
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:38,720
» I I would defer to them on that.
>> I agree. I mean, Amanda and Faith, I sat

742
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:43,839
through all these meetings, Amanda
able to ask all the pertinent questions

743
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:47,839
that they have relative to managing this
process.

744
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:52,559
And of the three, this is their
recommendation on what is best and

745
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:56,079
easiest for them to
>> and their $12,000

746
00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:58,799
to redo
>> everything and the host

747
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,839
» and divide it by five,
>> right?

748
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:08,640
» So, because if it's if it's $3,700 over
5 years, that's $18,500

749
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:12,799
we'd be paying for the website over five
years.

750
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:18,680
» And that 12,000 Let's see here, Andy.
5-year guarantee first grant total

751
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:27,440
is 108
I think that's to build it and then the

752
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:30,440
other cost and must be the hosting cost
but

753
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,319
over five years so we get to spread the
10,800 over five years.

754
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:41,280
» Yes.
>> And then the monthly hosting is would

755
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,920
equal to 3700.
>> Yeah.

756
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,799
Andy.
>> Well, I mean that the only other thing

757
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,720
with Civics Plus, I mean, we have a
website. It's built. I understand that

758
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,319
Luke added
>> 300 pages, but you know, the other thing

759
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:03,359
that you can do is you can call Civic
Plus and say, "Hey, if you guys don't

760
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:06,640
fix this, then we're we're leaving."
>> We told them that.

761
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:10,880
» Okay. And they're like, "Okay, you got
to build it. It's your problem. They

762
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,720
take them down." So the other question I
have is how much transferable stuff

763
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:21,119
because the other thing that you have to
look at is what stuff can weed down that

764
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:25,680
because the last time the reason why we
went Civic Plus it was it was super easy

765
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:31,280
to upload and to do and they had all
their you know like I don't want this to

766
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:35,359
turn into another massive project. It's
like if they can download what we got

767
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:40,559
put it up into the new thing and we're
off and running awesome. Well, they said

768
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:43,680
what? The first 500 pages are migrated
for free,

769
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:48,720
» right? The other thing.
>> The other thing we need to and I'm sorry

770
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:51,200
I didn't
>> pay his own thing like the zoning code

771
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,720
to stuff.
>> Yeah.

772
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:55,760
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Tell

773
00:59:53,359 --> 01:00:03,520
» that's all that all come over. But this
company also has the ability to manage

774
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:08,480
eblast revised does eblast and their
eblast system is not only a an email but

775
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:14,640
they also text.
Um, we don't have that right now with uh

776
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:19,920
our current vendor
and that's not Civic Plus. That is Eye

777
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:23,240
Contact. I believe is we use for the
weirdest candies

778
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:30,799
candy.
I'm happy with the candy. I don't

779
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,040
» forget about our website. Let's talk
about

780
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:37,760
» So, what's their So, what's their what's
their term say from the time we say go?

781
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:40,079
How how long is it going to take for
that?

782
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:42,559
» Andy will not be back until they get the
website.

783
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:49,200
» I believe I believe Andy
>> Crackle Crackle and Mr.

784
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:54,000
» have it up and running in uh six weeks I
believe was the the date and

785
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:58,799
see now you're testing my memory Andy
because we

786
01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:02,960
um but I thought he said six weeks but
I'll verify that for you and get that.

787
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:06,160
» So the Okay, so they do offer those
things. I see it down in the add-ons,

788
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:10,000
but that's not part of the quote that
we've got, right?

789
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:14,839
» No, but we're we're already paying a
separate fee for eye contact,

790
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:14,839
» right?

791
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:24,799
» When's the next time you meet with or
have with these folks, you know, um

792
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:30,240
while they're waiting for us to say,
"All right, we want to sit and talk

793
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:34,000
specifically about time frames and get
going. Let's get moving on

794
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,559
we're going to do here and how we're
going to do it.

795
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,839
» So, does the board want to see a
>> a proposal?

796
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,640
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like a like

797
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:46,079
» I mean because it sounds like if this
was to move forward, revise as the

798
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,400
company that you would select.
>> Yes.

799
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:53,040
» So,
does it make sense to either invite them

800
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:57,280
to meeting or you don't need to?
>> I don't need to get into depths. It's

801
01:01:55,119 --> 01:02:00,880
just like because here's the thing. If
if you look at the analytics, the

802
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:08,000
analytics is we're we're only getting
20. We get 2,200 visits a month and half

803
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:12,240
of those are
you know people that are just bounces

804
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:17,359
because you look at the bounce rate it's
like well no the average time on our

805
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:21,359
website is 34 seconds so people are
coming in to look for exactly they're

806
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:26,160
getting the information and then they're
out or they're looking for Perry

807
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:31,359
Township that's up in Akran and they're
like oh wrong Perry and then they're

808
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:40,000
out. So people are coming for
information on trash zoning and police

809
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:44,640
or you know public that that's it. So if
we can I don't care personally I don't

810
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:48,240
care about pictures. I don't care about
you know all the because how the stuff

811
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:52,640
that we're doing is it's sending to our
Facebook page which is all the pretty

812
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:57,040
stuff and all that other good stuff. So
I I just I don't I'm not putting a lot

813
01:02:55,599 --> 01:03:01,280
of weight into it as long as the
information that people are coming to

814
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:06,040
get and that would be zoning, you know,
police and um trash.

815
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:12,480
» Well, let's get a little more community
concrete proposal.

816
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:18,799
» Okay, I'll get I'll get exact numbers.
Do you want me to have them include with

817
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:23,280
this quote what the their eblast add-on
is as well?

818
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:26,960
» Yeah, maybe. And And and make sure you
include from our end what we pay right

819
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,280
now for that stuff. So we kind of
compare

820
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,400
» apples to apples. You know what are we
paying our monthly for email blast? We

821
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:39,119
we pay monthly for website and then you
know what if we that sounds like we're

822
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:44,319
not going to go with silver plus but I
mean if you had a redesign you know just

823
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:50,119
the standard chart we see like for
health insurance you know here's here's

824
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,119
the difference

825
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:57,000
with color columns so pie chart

826
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:08,640
so one good thing about This
don't they do um um text messages?

827
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:13,200
» Yeah, we talked about that that they can
do email and text and their

828
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,400
notification. We currently only get
email.

829
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:19,760
» Do they charge separate for those or
this it's just like together?

830
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:24,960
» It's together and it's just part of
their

831
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:27,200
addon. It's an add-on to the whole
package.

832
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:32,880
» Well, I wish we had more email
addresses. It'd be nice to be able to

833
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:36,000
text somebody out on the,
you know, a road closure and those kind

834
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,280
of things that you want to
>> Most Most people will pick up a text

835
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:43,920
message before they pick up their email,
>> right?

836
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:50,559
» Yeah. Okay. Let me let me get these
exact numbers for you. I have that for

837
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:54,160
you by next meeting. Uh again,
gentlemen,

838
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:57,920
all of that is in the broch in the in
the folder that's on web on the page and

839
01:04:56,319 --> 01:05:04,240
then it's all right here for you as
well. If you want to just really sit and

840
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:09,039
read that, I I will tell you this is
kind of

841
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:13,200
the folks that have to deal with this
and this is what Amanda has said to me.

842
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:17,520
We are definitely facing limitations in
editing capabilities

843
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:21,559
uh and having significant communication
issues with Civic Plus.

844
01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:27,119
She
she worked with Civic Plus when she was

845
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:33,039
at Prairie. She said they didn't have
those problems, but they had a

846
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:37,280
they had a different
account manager.

847
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:40,960
» Our account manager was a gal from
Texas. I don't know how we ended up with

848
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:45,920
her. Sometimes you just get like hell
about the camera.

849
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:50,480
» But again, in our communication with
trying to resolve some of these matters

850
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:54,720
is the 400 pages that are up there. How
do we take these down? That's that's

851
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:59,440
your problem. You got to figure it out.
You don't have the tools. Well, they're

852
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:05,359
always wanting to sell you something.
Again, I'm I'm not a not a fan of that

853
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:09,920
organization and how they offer service.
>> Well, this is really here's my this is

854
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:15,119
really an Andy thing. contract thing,
shell thing, and the color change. And

855
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:20,960
they're good with it, then we're good.
>> There you go. Excellent job.

856
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:24,319
» Absolutely. Just like that peak making
thing.

857
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:31,119
Everybody says,
>> "All right, we'll work on that." Um,

858
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:33,680
trickor treat. Morpc is saying October
29th. You guys want to go with that

859
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:38,240
date?
>> Have small children. Chair, my move that

860
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:44,079
we set trick-or- treat night for October
the 29th, Thursday, Wednesday. Second.

861
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:48,960
» Well, yes.
>> Okay. A reluctant guess.

862
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:53,039
» Why? We want to be on trick or treat
October 31st.

863
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:56,480
» Saturday on a Saturday.
>> Do you move July 4th? Do you move

864
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:00,480
Christmas?
>> No, but Thanksgiving always the third.

865
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:05,039
» Saturday be awesome.
>> I thought trickor treat was

866
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:08,880
» trick-or- treat on Saturday. Awesome.
>> I thought against safety.

867
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:11,760
» You just don't want to be out of sync
with everybody else. That's,

868
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:18,000
» you know, you want to be in sync with
Sharon and Columbus cuz it right. This

869
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:23,039
is my own little personal.
>> We can have two. Mr. Roer will get over

870
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:27,520
it for adult.
Spoiler alert. It doesn't matter because

871
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:32,880
when it rains, and it will
>> on Thursday the or the then we will be

872
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:36,480
asked. We're not holding it on a
different night. Period.

873
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,720
» I understand a little bit on Friday
night cuz you know, high school.

874
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:45,760
» Yeah. But Saturday night, I mean, you've
got all of the adults going out and

875
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,200
driving under the infl.
>> It is what it is. October 20. Oh,

876
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:53,359
they're not on their ebikes.
>> On their ebikes and they're wearing a

877
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:55,920
purple robe.
>> We're going to educate.

878
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:02,799
» Okay. So, it is the We're going with the
29th. Going 29th. All right. Um,

879
01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:06,640
thank you.
>> September is coming up. We had some

880
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:11,920
discussion last year about whether or
not we're going to a fall cookout or a

881
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:15,760
Christmas party.
>> You're talking where we invite

882
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,839
everybody,
>> families, everybody.

883
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:24,159
» Yep.
>> Yeah. Or do you want to do the Christmas

884
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:28,080
party? I I I think it's I I thought we
landed on we wanted it more intimate

885
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:31,920
with just the staff for Christmas
instead of open it up and then do the

886
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:35,679
fall cookout where it's nicer. We got
more room.

887
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:39,040
» I'm willing to do it. I'm I'm all about
I'm just trying to agree.

888
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:41,600
» I mean I it's just like it's
>> you have more room too if you do it, you

889
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,880
know.
>> I think

890
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:49,520
» it forces you to clean up your garage.
>> My garage is clean. But you know, you

891
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:53,359
have more room out there. It's more
casual.

892
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,199
It was so packed in here this year
>> for Christmas.

893
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:58,960
» For Christmas.
>> And we can Yeah. And then the kids could

894
01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:01,199
be running around. They could, you know,
like we

895
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:03,040
» touch a truck.
>> Kids.

896
01:09:01,839 --> 01:09:06,880
» Mhm.
>> Our own touch of truck.

897
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,759
» Touch a truck. See, you can't do that.
And then the And then for Christmas,

898
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:14,799
we'll just do
>> staff. Yeah.

899
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:16,480
» Without families. Is that okay?
>> No, just staff.

900
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,480
» No spouse.
>> No spouse.

901
01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:22,880
» No kids.
>> No kids. No great deal.

902
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:26,159
» Yeah. Okay.
>> Good.

903
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:30,960
» We'll get that politic officials. Um if
you ask of the board,

904
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:35,679
» we'll invite people
>> if the board can send me a couple of

905
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:39,120
dates that you're available in
September. I'd like to schedule this

906
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:43,279
when you guys are going to be in town.
>> Can we Can we do it Can we do it like

907
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:47,920
sort of like later on in the afternoon?
like maybe a Thursday where you know

908
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:52,080
like we end the day instead of doing it
middle of the day.

909
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:57,600
» I'm I'm fine with that's called happy
hour.

910
01:09:54,159 --> 01:10:00,000
» I wasn't I wasn't going to say that but
said you went there. Yes, it's happy

911
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,800
hour.
>> Are there any rules about drinking if

912
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:07,400
you're not operating town
>> and then you know everybody you know I

913
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:07,400
just like

914
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:13,679
» you could just go to
you could just go to picnic. Right.

915
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:18,080
» Right. It could be it could be like a
>> the fall the fall batch.

916
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:20,640
» Yeah, we can do whatever. Maybe ask
people what they would prefer, you know,

917
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:25,440
but
>> quick poll.

918
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:28,719
» All right. I mean, what's most liability
if we drink,

919
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:35,360
» but I'll just throw this out. I was
going to say this. We should put a new

920
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:39,679
» We're going we're going to Texas for my
granddaughter's second birthday. We

921
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:46,800
leave on Saturday,
September 5th, and I don't get back

922
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:50,640
until until Sunday the 13th.
>> 11.

923
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,239
» So, okay. So, the last So, I will not be
here the next meeting.

924
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:56,080
» So,
>> the next two weeks of the last two weeks

925
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,400
of September, we're looking at
>> Yeah. Why don't we do it September or

926
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,520
the first week of
>> October?

927
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,080
» Yeah. Cooler
leaves are starting.

928
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:06,960
» You know, whatever you guys I'm all
about it.

929
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:10,000
» Let's do it. Last week of October or
first week of October?

930
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:14,159
» Yeah, the last week.
>> How about the 29th? Let's do it on

931
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:16,960
October 29th.
>> No, we're going to do it on the 30th.

932
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:20,480
» I have to wear a costume.
>> Yeah, there you go. We could do the

933
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,040
Perry Township costume party. Halloween
costume party.

934
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:28,239
» I would actually be out. Oh, you could
do it on Thursday, October 1st.

935
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:33,040
October Fest. Perry Township Fest.
>> Let's do that. Let's do October 1st.

936
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:35,840
» Then one is that one to
>> three to five.

937
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,080
» Three to five.
I thought we were going to ask the the

938
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:43,280
employees.
>> No, not they love it. They love it.

939
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,000
» Well, we picked the time. They love it.
>> They can pick the time.

940
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:50,000
» What?
>> Okay.

941
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:55,679
We can pick the day. That doesn't
matter. 5:00, don't we?

942
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:59,760
» I like that a lot.
>> Uh, you know what? I I've lost. We have

943
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:02,480
Jimmy leak or
>> what's that?

944
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:07,480
» We have Jimmy Buffet me. We can,
>> you know, I'm thinking we should hold it

945
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,480
somewhere other than the township.

946
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:12,560
» I know a guy.
>> You always do.

947
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,560
» It holds a place right across the road
here.

948
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,360
» But this is supposed to be a family, but
you don't want to see.

949
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,719
» I spend all my time with my family. I'm
good.

950
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,120
» That'll be the Christmas party.
>> Yeah.

951
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:31,120
» Why don't we just wait until the
Christmas party and then we'll do it

952
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:33,920
offsite?
God.

953
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:37,520
» Oh my god.
>> Love it.

954
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:40,320
» I tell you what, why don't you have Andy
coordinate everything.

955
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:45,920
» Love it.
>> That was my event planning.

956
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:52,440
» Um, we've already talked about the tips,
so I'll move that and then check I'm

957
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:52,440
going to over the U.

958
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:08,360
» Was that on there? for the uh 41 acres.
>> Oh,

959
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,360
» everyone ask for that.

960
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:15,679
» Yeah,
>> we table the next day.

961
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:19,640
» I can't be here, but that's okay.
>> Whatever the majority does.

962
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,520
» Well, if he doesn't miss the party,
we're

963
01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:26,960
» all good.
>> Chef, do you have any type of update on

964
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:31,679
the
161?

965
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:38,000
» Yes. So, uh, we're going to be inviting,
um, the project manager to one of our

966
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:41,199
two September meetings. Obviously, now
it's going to be the second meeting.

967
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:45,679
» First meeting is the best.
>> Jim's not going to be here. So, I'll

968
01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:49,920
just give him a call. He's coming to I
think 17th or something like that. No,

969
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,560
that's not right. 21st.
>> I think it's the 21st.

970
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,199
» He was going to let us know which one
those two dates.

971
01:13:53,199 --> 01:13:57,440
» Yeah, I know. But now we've decided for
him. Kind of like the Christmas party

972
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,600
and the
>> Yeah.

973
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:06,400
So I I'll reach out to him tomorrow
about the 21st.

974
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:09,920
» Okay.
That's all I had.

975
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:12,719
» Anything else other before we get the
fiscal officer?

976
01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:15,440
» Fiscal officer.
>> That's a motion for approval of payroll

977
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,600
and dispersements.
>> So moved.

978
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,880
» Second vote.
>> Yes.

979
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:23,520
» Yes.
>> Anything else before we adjourn?

980
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:27,040
» Um I'm sorry. Wait.
The public works commission.

981
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:32,880
» Yep. We
>> the CFO and the CEO would be you and

982
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:35,360
» we don't need a motion at all. We just
need to sign

983
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:41,679
» just need to sign it and that's just to
allow them to have the money released

984
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:50,320
» this first
that it's coming from the the grant.

985
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:54,000
This does not affect our our portion.
>> We're still working. You know, being

986
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:57,840
that's
>> there was a way to uh

987
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,440
» help leverage.
>> Did we adjourn?

988
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,239
» Make a motion to adjurnn it.
>> Second.

989
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,960
» Vote.
>> Yes.

990
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:07,679
» Yes.
>> Yes.

991
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:11,560
» Thank you.
>> Not in your but

992
01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:16,640
» thank you for my temporary water
feature.

993
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,280
» I'm going to return. to get a lot of
those fasia.