[0:03] Yes. So, Andrew is uh with us is here
tonight uh to answer any questions.
[0:10] Andrew, if you want to kind of give a
general framework and catch everybody up
[0:15] where we are with Brookside.
>> Yeah, for sure.
[0:18] » So, the township is proposing a
potential tax income financing district
[0:25] with the Brookside development. that
Brookside development is located
[0:31] in southern part of the township
[0:36] part of that tiff. It's just a very
standard 10 year 75%.
[0:42] So it'll be not a percent tax paid
diversion of taxes that allow the
[0:48] township to use that property tax
revenue to pay for public
[0:52] infrastructure. It's only going to be
related to the actual development
[0:56] that'll be the Brookside Colleges
development.
[1:00] » The boundaries of the tiff district are
specifically for the what 23 homes Amy
[1:06] 20
>> 22 22 homes
[1:09] » 22 homes right there's that 15 acre
parcel. Um it's just over 15 acres. It's
[1:15] only going to be that parcel that
development field and then be any of the
[1:19] neighboring parcels.
>> Yeah. just a redistribution of about the
[1:23] 15% that
anyway it's redistribution of tax money.
[1:29] » That's right.
>> Um and so that does not impact anybody
[1:33] else's that's already in a home over in
Brookside. Doesn't raise their taxes,
[1:37] lower their taxes, nothing like that.
>> Has no impact on really even the
[1:42] homeowners. It won't impact them. They
would pay their property taxes just the
[1:45] way it normally would. The way the tip
will function is if the township
[1:49] trustees decide that they would like to
pass this resolution at an upcoming
[1:53] upcoming meeting, we will then send on
that information to the county auditor.
[1:57] The county auditor will set up what's
known as a tip fund. It's essentially an
[2:01] escrow account. The money will then as
it's collected via normal property
[2:05] taxes, the auditor will just transmit
that money and send it into the tit fund
[2:09] for that 75% and then the township will
have access to that to use for public
[2:15] referees.
Um, I did reach out uh to the
[2:20] superintendent. Uh, we're trying to get
on his calendar the end of this week.
[2:25] Uh, just as a courtesy, him and the
treasurer uh so they're aware of it and
[2:31] don't suspect there'll be any issues,
but as a courtesy, we do want to make
[2:35] that contact.
[2:41] » Does anybody have any questions?
>> Sure. One question. So tiffs can be used
[2:46] to vote for embedded domain
and so the residents of Brookside at
[2:53] least twice have stopped the opening of
my own court
[2:58] is this tiff. Let me get it on that
vote.
[3:03] It only impacts 20 22 homes over which
there isn't connectivity from there to
[3:10] the IM court. Okay.
>> There has nothing to do with that. I
[3:16] It's close enough that
>> it's a valid question. I get it.
[3:22] If there's nothing else under the uh tip
portion of the program tonight,
[3:29] excuse our council
and uh I will look for a motion to uh I
[3:36] guess close the public hearing.
>> I'll make a motion to close the uh
[3:39] public.
>> Yes.
[3:43] » Yes. Um we'll now move into our regular
meeting and the first order of business
[3:48] for that meeting is to approve the uh
minutes of August the 3rd, 2026.
[3:54] » I'll make that motion.
>> Second vote.
[3:57] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[4:01] Uh next up will be excuse me public
comment period. But I see no resource
[4:05] from the sheriff's office. Uh so we'll
go with our neighborhoods. First up is
[4:09] Brookside.
Um, nothing new to report other than the
[4:16] what we've already discussed in terms of
the upcoming fall block party and you
[4:20] have everything you need on that.
>> It's the permits approved to send back.
[4:25] » Thank you
for the hills. I'll defer to our civic
[4:30] associated president.
>> Thank you, Chad. Um, well, good evening
[4:36] everyone. Um, my name is Joe Uig. I'm
the president of the Warthingington
[4:41] Hills Civic Association. Um here on
behalf of them and the board tonight
[4:47] um but also more importantly our
residents which I know all three of you
[4:52] are residents of our community as well.
Um
[4:56] so thank you for the opportunity to
speak today. I wanted to bring uh an
[5:00] issue to your attention and I know the
civic association has provided you all
[5:06] with a copy of a letter we submitted a
couple weeks ago in July regarding
[5:11] ebikes and some of the concerns from our
community
[5:16] surrounding ebikes and safety around
those. Um I'll start by saying you know
[5:21] thank you. We the civic association
greatly appreciates the partnership we
[5:25] have with Kerry Township. Thank you for
all you do for our association and for
[5:29] our community. Um,
this is not a new issue. I know that
[5:35] this topic has been discussed before. I
think we just wanted to go on record and
[5:41] both detail some of the issues, some of
the concerns we're hearing from
[5:45] residents, but also and maybe more
importantly offer some common sense
[5:49] solutions that we hope uh the township
may decide to act on. Um
[5:57] we we set out um a couple weeks ago,
maybe more, about a month ago, on a
[6:04] listening tour with our residents uh
asking for feedback
[6:09] um surrounding this issue about ebikes.
Um and overwhelmingly the feedback we
[6:15] got was there's a concern that needs to
be addressed. Um, you know, if in my
[6:22] letter, and I won't go through all of
it, you know, we detail some of the
[6:26] incidents that residents have have seen
regarding the use of ebikes. You know,
[6:31] they're typically um utilized by miners
in the community. Um, inexperienced
[6:38] riders.
Uh, the speed of the ebikes is a
[6:43] concern. Um, with regards to some of the
shared public spaces in the community,
[6:50] um, it's not isolated. There's been
various incidents and reported back to
[6:55] us. Um, that it's growing more and more,
you know, as the weeks go on. Um, and
[7:02] really the goal here is to again offer
some solutions before a more serious
[7:07] incident occurs.
um you know,
[7:12] traveling too fast through the
neighborhood, not properly abiding to um
[7:18] public roadway laws, weaving through
traffic, um using their phones, texting
[7:26] while on these, riding after dark, um
not utilizing proper, you know, helmet
[7:31] wear, um doing stunts on the roadways.
Uh the list goes on and I won't go into
[7:38] it. I'm sure you're all aware of this.
Um
[7:43] but again, we we're not here to we we
want ebikes to be utilized in an
[7:49] enjoyable manner um appropriate. That's
our goal and we don't want to discourage
[7:56] responsible use.
Um
[8:00] but we want to make sure that young
riders are properly educated in how to
[8:04] utilize these
and both in turn pedestrians have clear
[8:10] expectations in a safe environment when
using our private roads.
[8:15] So again, our our goal here is to to
work with you all, offer some
[8:22] suggestions. There's blueprints out
there. I know other communities have
[8:26] taken action to enforce different types
of regulations surrounding ebikes. Um,
[8:31] we would support, you know, utilizing
doing some age restrictions surrounding
[8:36] ebikes. Um, you know, that's setting
minimum age for operating these uh
[8:44] motorized vehicles on public roadways.
Um, helmet requirements.
[8:50] Um I I know in just you know speaking to
some of you and speaking to law
[8:54] enforcement I know there's been a big
emphasis from from law enforcement to
[8:59] help educate writers in the community
and we appreciate that.
[9:03] » Um have you seen the letter that
um
[9:06] » it has been sent out waiting for the
approval on the flyer too. Okay.
[9:10] » So I'll send the vote to Got it. Okay.
>> Okay. Um and just I'll just briefly wrap
[9:16] up. I mean, you know, perhaps
uh there's a registration, you know,
[9:23] requirements that could be enacted. Um
safety education obviously is a huge
[9:29] component just like driver's ed for
driving a car. You know, these are these
[9:34] are typically minors that utilize these.
So perhaps there needs to be some more
[9:37] safety education requirements before you
can utilize these. Um and you know
[9:46] perhaps down the road targeted
enforcement if it's not these
[9:50] regulations are not being you know
adhere to perhaps you know that's the
[9:54] last step. Um but again we appreciate
the audience here tonight. I just, you
[10:00] know, the the board, the civic
association felt strongly to come before
[10:04] you all just go on record and state
that, you know, we're we're urging
[10:08] consideration to act and uh from a
township perspective. And again, we
[10:14] really appreciate everything you do for
our community. Um, and keeping our
[10:18] residents safe.
But we just encourage you to to look
[10:22] into this matter and uh we're happy to
answer any questions if there are. Thank
[10:28] you for the time.
I'll I'll kind of defer to the chief um
[10:35] and he can explain kind of what we've
done, but I guess like an overview is
[10:41] is, you know, we're we're
our police department, like any police
[10:46] department, is bound by what's in the
Ohio Revised Code. So, you know, we
[10:51] can't place age restrictions on ebikes.
Um
[10:57] um we can't
I don't know about the helmets. Um I
[11:02] know I think under Ohio law helmets
aren't required for the two of the three
[11:07] classes of the ebikes. Um you know we
can't require registration.
[11:14] Um I know like some communities are
doing that and again I'll let the chief
[11:19] speak to this but um
u you know one thing that makes it a
[11:24] little more unique in Worththingington
Hills for example compared to a place
[11:28] like Upper Arlington and every community
obviously has a border but you know our
[11:34] neighborhood's pretty landlocked in a
way uh but you have Perry Township you
[11:39] have Sharon Township you have city of
Columbus
[11:43] and then in the back 40 area where where
Andy lives, you have a bike path that
[11:48] connects into Calat Farms and I know
kids go through that a lot with bikes.
[11:54] So, you really have four jurisdictions.
Um,
[11:59] and uh, so that just makes it a little
more unique as well. But I guess I'll
[12:04] turn it over to Chief Cisil so he can
tell you.
[12:07] » Can I ask one quick, Michelle? Are you
guys seeing the same issues in Brooks?
[12:10] Um, we were seeing more of it until that
recent incident where the child was
[12:16] missing.
You recall?
[12:18] » Yes.
>> Went got lost and went missing on
[12:21] anybody.
>> Um, I haven't seen it as much anymore.
[12:26] Seems like there there was a bit of
resident conversation after that. I
[12:31] don't know if that made folks kind of
rethink it or not.
[12:33] » There was some conversation with our
officers too about that about the
[12:37] distance. It's a little like u it's
something new. So I think it's you know
[12:42] it just you have to kind of get used to
it a little bit. you know, we had the
[12:47] same response, not response, we had the
same concern, I guess, you know, years
[12:51] ago about golf carts and and quite
honestly, I put some of the blame on the
[12:57] parade committee for that, you know,
because everybody in their mother's got
[13:00] a golf cart and I can't tell you it was
even today. I wish I had my c camera on
[13:09] my or my phone with me. People love to
drive golf carts on on Circle in the
[13:14] Green because there's really no traffic.
I can't tell you how many people let
[13:18] their, you know, seven, eight, nine, 10
year old kids drive golf cart. You know,
[13:23] mom and dad are sitting in the seat next
to them, but there's no possible way
[13:28] this child's anywhere near 16 and
they're driving the golf cart, you know,
[13:32] on on circle on the green where, you
know, it's a circle. So sometimes, you
[13:37] know, when you go around, you can't see
cars and cars can't see you. So, but I
[13:41] think the golf cart thing for the most
part has kind of settled that. I mean,
[13:45] it's it's crazy the week of Fourth of
July. Obviously, I'm surprised there's
[13:49] not been more accidents with those, but
um but again, I'll let the chief tell
[13:55] you what what we've done to uh try to,
you know, address this issue.
[14:02] » So, we we started doing targeted
enforcement and um if you want, I can
[14:06] send you some of those stats. We studied
that uh not the week before. So each
[14:11] week we'll have a different night where
we do some enforcement officers
[14:14] are on bicycles and we spend a little
extra time and making contacts and so
[14:18] forth. The one thing I know that was
talked about was a resolution here to
[14:21] say you know we pass a resolution to be
similar with the issue is my opinion
[14:27] when you pass a resolution becomes a
civil issue to where if you follow the
[14:31] Ohio Revised Code it's we have the
option of making it criminal need. So
[14:35] that's one of the things that and we're
going to adopt the same thing as the
[14:38] Iowa vice code. We already have it. So
it's just they try to target the
[14:42] enforcement educated form. Um I have a
letter and a uh flyer about ebikes that
[14:48] once they are happy with the flyer.
They've already approved the letter
[14:51] that's going to go out. We want to send
out to all our residents township wide
[14:55] so to speak. e blasted and then um
officer Schwab who comes to your yeah
[15:01] she will bring some of those flyers and
letters so people can she can pass them
[15:04] out at events and different things. So
we hope to try to educate the best we
[15:08] can and enforce what we have to if that
makes sense. And like I said we're going
[15:11] to continue the the um directed patrols
and target enforcement until probably
[15:16] weather gets the point where
a lot of the folks that you see causing
[15:21] the problem live on the Delbert County
side. We've had uh three or four where
[15:28] um kids have run from us from the
officers and they all go straight up
[15:33] fairway drive through the cut through
and into Delaware County. So, and uh
[15:37] this past week, our officer on bike
stopped a couple they stopped at a young
[15:42] man on a go-kart who was from Delaware
County and another uh ATV from Delaware
[15:47] County. So, unfortunately, some of those
problems are outside of the
[15:51] neighborhood. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'd be
appreciate that and we'd be happy to
[15:56] disperse that letter to association. And
if you want to let especially residents
[16:01] know when they see things, call call us
immediately. Call when they have problem
[16:05] emergency numbers because there's
especially if officers close by. It
[16:08] gives a better chance.
>> Yeah. Kids typically respond a little
[16:12] bit better. A police officer go back to
their parents. Well, what we find is
[16:17] when you call the parents over and say,
"Come here and because we have your
[16:20] child because they did this," they
respond a little differently, too. So,
[16:23] which is a good thing. Okay.
>> But yeah, please give us a call. Tell
[16:28] tell your drivers, "Give us a call if
they see something." So,
[16:31] » yeah, I think just pick it up. But yeah,
I mean, he hit golf carts. And I I think
[16:36] because it's such a new mode of
transportation, people are getting used
[16:40] to it. So, I always say like when the
golf carts came out, it was like the
[16:43] pendulum was over here. It was like we
not only do we have kids driving it, but
[16:47] they're not they're not road ready. They
need brake light. I mean, the list went
[16:51] on and on and on. And I think they've
become sort of an accepted mode of
[16:56] transportation. And that pendulum is
kind of swung back where everybody's
[16:59] like that. I think I'm I'm sort of one
that says, "Okay, let's let's kind of
[17:06] live with it. I understand taking a risk
from a safety standpoint and everything
[17:10] like that, but but it's like I think
what's going to happen is that
[17:13] pendulum's gonna sort of come back and
people will get used to it. I I think
[17:17] the big thing is educating parents cuz
parents have no clue what their kids are
[17:22] doing. I mean, I saw a kid, you know,
you'd said about the thing.
[17:25] » I was telling Chief, I was mowing my
grass and I see a kid doing a wheelie
[17:30] coming up coming up the thing and I was
like, but if they're not there, like
[17:34] then what what do we do? Like how do you
do I do I stop the kid and say, "Hey, I
[17:40] want you to take me I mean that's the
situation that we're in right now is
[17:44] like how do you enforce something
whether there whether that kid was
[17:48] registered or not?
You know it it you got to catch it and
[17:53] then if you do catch it then the only
people that really can do it are the
[17:57] police that's going to have any peak.
And I think that's the that's the issue
[18:01] that I'm just I think we're just going
to I think we're over here and the
[18:06] pendulum is going to swing back. But I
think working with the civic association
[18:09] on this and more like educate the nice
thing is kids are going back to school.
[18:14] So I think there's an opportunity to get
kids around and you know and talk to
[18:17] them and you know say hey you know these
things that you're driving. Um but
[18:22] that's that's sort of my take on on
where we're at in the whole scheme of
[18:26] things. self
right
[18:31] if we had an opportunity to work with
the school
[18:37] education wise safety wise
and she petros
[18:43] thing is
would with the officers
[18:48] do we have the resources to be able to
work with the school to educate
[18:56] students parents parents like I know
they do the the Wednesday bus
[19:00] » bike bus bike bike
>> we we still do like a rodeo with them
[19:04] too like the bicycle rodeo type thing so
we I mean there's always an opportunity
[19:08] officer rising in the school all the
time there's always opportunity to kind
[19:12] of like the flyer can we get the school
to send them home you know can we we can
[19:16] post it to school there's a lot of
opportunities there that we already do
[19:19] I'm sure that we can
ask for a little help
[19:23] » connect that that way
>> I I think thing we need to be very
[19:28] cognizant about in offering any type of
training or education
[19:34] is that we have nobody within our
organization that is certified to do
[19:39] that. So I think there is an expectation
of people who would send their children
[19:46] to that that they're being trained by
people who are trained to train
[19:51] and we don't have anybody. So,
>> so does Upper Lincoln have someone
[19:56] » or will they?
>> I don't know that there is any training
[19:58] available right now through Opata that
certifies law enforcement.
[20:02] » Maybe it's not training.
>> Maybe it's not training. I just find out
[20:04] what the laws are. It's more like
education on because I still think some
[20:08] people are very confused on
>> you need a license, you don't need a
[20:13] license, how fast can these things go or
I didn't know until the there were three
[20:18] classes of ebikes until I did some
research and you know and two out of the
[20:23] three, you know, anybody can anybody can
operate those. You don't need a helmet.
[20:28] The third class is a little more
unusual. You got to be a certain age.
[20:32] You got to wear a helmet. I think uh for
the class three ones, but you know, I
[20:37] know there's,
you know, there's there's a difference
[20:40] there, but I think a lot of folks might
not know that. You know, I think some
[20:45] parents just need to be reminded too
that they're responsible for their kids
[20:49] and if there's problems caused by their
kids, then it's ultimately going to fall
[20:53] on the parents,
>> right?
[20:56] I mean, it certainly wouldn't hurt to
suggest perhaps to the schools that
[20:59] here's here's a letter that could be
sent out
[21:02] » with your information or attached I
think if they they do them
[21:06] » electronically now.
>> Yeah.
[21:08] » You know, are is everybody going to read
it?
[21:12] Does it hopefully connect a few dots for
folks that aren't paying attention?
[21:16] » I know that um Miss Miller had said
before anything we wanted to post, they
[21:19] have the board that's inside the school.
We can hang things there. So, I think we
[21:23] can probably post this kind of stuff
there. Um, I'm sure the new principal
[21:27] wouldn't have any issue with that
either. So, again, I think there's ways
[21:30] we can do that. And if you look on our
Facebook page and police page, there's
[21:35] several things about ebikes there. You
can print anything off that you want to
[21:38] share. Like I said,
>> we've reshared a few of those.
[21:41] » Okay. And then, like I said, this one,
long as the board doesn't have any
[21:44] issues with this one, they'll come out
with um a letter. And like I said, I'll
[21:48] make sure you get copies of that, too.
>> Thank you, Chief. the book they want to
[21:52] do something for the schools. I think
maybe looking at the PTA or the parents
[21:56] association having the school send it to
the parents because
[22:02] big part of this issue is that parents
don't truly understand the rules
[22:07] » the rules or
I think the potential of what these
[22:14] vehicles can do. um they they see them
as just electric bicycles when in fact
[22:20] they are they are more than that and I
think the education certainly the
[22:26] kids need to understand what traffic
laws are but I also cuz I'm old think
[22:34] that's a parent's responsibility to
teach their children
[22:37] » well it you're it's not because you're
old it's a responsibility especially if
[22:41] we're talking about the elementary
schools those kids don't have the you
[22:46] Right. So
>> the decision making abilities the
[22:49] information has to go to.
>> Yeah. I just think you know we can
[22:53] certainly talk to the kids.
>> I just want to be very careful in how we
[22:57] word this that we are not offering
training because we're not certified
[23:02] trainers and
just want to put us in a position where
[23:06] if something goes sideways they can come
back and say well this is what the
[23:10] police department was training us on.
Um, we're not certified trainers. We
[23:16] shouldn't be offering training in an
area we're not certified to train in. We
[23:19] can certainly offer education and tips
about here's what the laws say.
[23:26] » Well, and so I don't know what the
board's vision is on that, but that's my
[23:30] assumption was it was going to be some
reiteration if not a direct duplication
[23:35] of the same information that we're
looking to send to residents. But I I in
[23:40] in what we talked about tonight, I've
heard about what other communities are
[23:44] doing and some other communities are
offering some training.
[23:49] » So what is the board where are you folks
landing here on this? I mean is the
[23:53] intent to try to do some training on the
children?
[23:55] » No. No.
>> I think I think it's I think we're we're
[23:59] going down the path that we should. It's
the
[24:02] you guys are doing what you're doing.
We're going to send it out. We're going
[24:05] to tell people what we're doing. we're
going to hopefully see um a change and
[24:10] then it's sort of peeling back the
layers of the onion once, you know, once
[24:13] we see what that happens, we'll, you
know, we'll adjust. If we need to amp
[24:18] things up, we'll amp things up if we
don't. But I I just think it's I think
[24:22] we're just the pendulum's over here and
it's going to slowly it's going to
[24:25] slowly come back and uh you know, I I I
think it's educating parents that, you
[24:31] know, Johnny bought got an ebike. We're
going to buy Billy the kneebike cuz
[24:35] Johnny got one. But we don't really
understand because we don't want our kid
[24:39] to, you know, be, you know, all this kid
and I've got a regular bike. It's just
[24:44] and that's where the breakdown is
because they bought the kid the bike to
[24:48] do it and then now it's um, you know,
they're just not training or understand
[24:53] what they just bought their kid. So,
>> and I think the more parents that we
[24:58] call we stop their kids, I think that
helps educate because that's kind of our
[25:03] where we're at. you stop somebody for a
violation that's under 18, we're calling
[25:07] parents and making them come and release
them to their parents,
[25:09] » including when it's senior time.
>> Well, and that's that that goes back to
[25:16] » that also gets the word on I mean the
nice thing about Word and Tails being
[25:20] kind of in the bubble and like you said
and Brookside as well. It's like when
[25:25] something like that happens, they're
going to tell all the friends. Oh. So
[25:28] all of a sudden it's like we're going to
come back and
[25:32] then all of a sudden it's like I'm going
to go back and it's like if I get down
[25:36] because you were doing it
>> that that's what we want. We want
[25:40] parents to be aware that there's an
enforcement going on.
[25:44] » The other side of it is you have
>> you have young kids who don't know any
[25:48] better so they stop and talk to the
officers. You have you have a group that
[25:52] when they see officers they will be
perfect kind of like traffic violations.
[25:57] Then you have others that will do it in
front of an officer because they're not
[25:59] going to stop. So it's kind of so
completely understanding the comment
[26:06] about uh the training aspect and not
being trained with the golf carts for
[26:12] instance. You know, now you had to have
the police come out and do an
[26:16] inspection,
>> do inspection, check off.
[26:19] » As part of that education, could there
be a component where you have a police
[26:23] officer? I mean, I'm just thinking if
you have a kid interact with a law
[26:28] enforcement agent on the front end,
>> could that, you know, set the stage for
[26:34] them to be more, you know,
viable, you know, with operating it on
[26:41] the front end.
>> And I think that goes back to kind of
[26:43] the education figure. And again, kind of
like the bicycle rodeo. Our bike
[26:47] officers participate in bicycle rodeo,
but they're not training anybody. what
[26:51] they're doing is explaining here what
the law what the rules are. They don't
[26:54] train you on it. They explain what the
rule says. So again, I think it's kind
[26:58] of the same thing. It's kind of what
we're trying to do is here's what the
[27:00] law says. You have to buy this.
>> So again, it's it's a
[27:06] we want to educate. I wish I sense what
we're
[27:12] saying. That's really
>> in terms of like getting the word out in
[27:16] education. Does the uh does the civic
association put out any kind of a
[27:20] newsletter anymore?
>> We don't do a like a monthly newsletter.
[27:24] Um we do communications when needed. And
>> there used to always be, you know, views
[27:30] from the hills. You probably remember
that.
[27:33] » Yeah. That that came out quarterly, I
think,
[27:36] » back in the day. But
>> back in the day.
[27:39] » Back in the day.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
[27:41] » but um uh
>> we don't but we're always happy to
[27:45] » I mean I'm sure you guys have a pretty
good database because you get an email
[27:48] about dues every year.
>> Um but um you know maybe maybe provide
[27:55] the information to them and they can do
a separate like email blast.
[27:59] » Yeah, I'll do that too. there. I
guarantee there's people that are on
[28:02] your email database that aren't on ours.
And we're trying real hard to get more
[28:06] and more people to do that, particularly
like at school events and that kind of
[28:12] thing or, you know, even like at Epcon,
they're having a community night. We're
[28:15] going to try to It's so much easier to
communicate with people that way. It's
[28:19] so much more efficient to do that.
[28:24] So, keep pushing this side. Would you be
willing would we be willing to have
[28:31] conversation with the principal and the
PTA president and just kind of talk
[28:36] through this about
what they see as the best vehicle to
[28:41] communicate to both parents and
students?
[28:44] » Don't see as an issue at all. Okay,
let's have a conversation
[28:51] with no clips
because they deal
[28:56] they deal with these kids every day. At
least the ones that go to the school,
[29:00] right? Not so difficult word, but the
ones who go to school, they also deal
[29:04] with parents some respect.
>> So,
[29:08] just trying to figure out the
connection, the best effective
[29:11] connection that can be made from their
perspective. And I mean this with no
[29:15] disrespect, but the elementary kids
aren't the problem.
[29:17] » I know.
>> I mean, that's the whole thing. It's
[29:20] it's the
>> young teens and late teens that we're
[29:23] having issues with.
>> And hopefully though, you might get some
[29:26] with older siblings, you know? I mean, I
don't care if they get the same thing
[29:29] five times. Hopefully, it hits some of
the
[29:32] » That's why I said I mean it elementary
kids are the easy part.
[29:39] » Anything else, Joe? Anything else? No,
thank you for the opportunity to come.
[29:45] Yeah, thank you for coming in.
>> Anything else for Warington Hills?
[29:50] We never did upcon rebell.
>> Uh, let's see. Is the water backflow
[29:57] water thing on there?
>> Um, well, we're still waiting. Revel is
[30:03] going to have to do some work on a
backflow valve on our main water line.
[30:08] Uh, so they're going to shut water off
for about three hours. Um, I've been
[30:13] working with Upper Arlington Fire to get
their approval to do that. Um, they have
[30:22] to go through the UA's fire marshal
submit some paperwork. They'll have to
[30:27] issue a permit. Um, and then we'll send
that permit to the city of Columbus who
[30:33] actually owns that water line. They'll
send somebody out from the big big meter
[30:40] department. They have a what it's called
the big meter department. It's like
[30:45] commercial meters
and it'll be there while they do that
[30:48] job and make sure it's all put together.
And
[30:51] » so we're working on it then. They have
not set a date to start that project. Um
[30:56] we're kind of right now waiting on UA to
give us that go ahead.
[31:02] And just a kudos to EPCON their HOA
after much frustration because they're
[31:09] they're not they're an independent HOA
at this point. They shared with us all
[31:16] their email to their uh residents. So we
have their email addresses and the
[31:22] authorization to use them for
announcements from the HOA
[31:26] » for EST.
>> Yeah. They have that authority to do so.
[31:30] So whereas Rebell doesn't, they're not
independent yet. They're not switched
[31:35] over. Um so um I just want to thank them
for doing that. It partly came from the
[31:43] fact of why the Colbert project on
Riverside Drive, why aren't you telling
[31:49] us? Well, it's because we probably had
about five emails from those people and
[31:53] ever so many. So, uh, it kind of was
generated as a result of that
[31:59] conversation. So, I want to thank them
for doing that.
[32:04] Anything else under public comment?
Zoning. Anything under zoning tonight?
[32:09] » Nope. Road department.
A few updates on couple addresses. Um,
[32:15] 1632. I believe it's a water issue
they're having um in the gutter pan
[32:22] freezing causing an ice block in the
winter time. Um I don't see any issues
[32:27] with the
the water anything from the curb causing
[32:34] the water to uh dam up. I think there's
a sump pump running
[32:40] » continuously.
It's really hard right now to tell which
[32:43] sump pump is causing that in the winter.
So, I can tell you they might have the
[32:48] same issue that I had if they're I mean,
it's hard to tell this summer, but the
[32:52] summer that happened to me, it was bone
dry and my water line had a leak in it
[32:57] as it was coming into the foundation
because they didn't used to sleeve it
[33:02] and when it shipped it, it started to
drain. So, the water was coming down. I
[33:06] wasn't seeing it in the meter, but my
sump was constantly running. So, but it
[33:11] was constantly flushing out until I
found it. So that might be
[33:17] » I think one of the neighbors runs
>> non-stop in the winter
[33:23] » and and the only way they have to do it
Ian is they got to take a stethoscope
[33:27] and they go like this up to the wall and
they'll hear the water running on the it
[33:33] was seriously I had no clue couldn't
understand it but found it and created
[33:38] all kinds of
>> But you did have that bonus bathroom in
[33:40] your yard.
Oh, that was a different issue.
[33:44] » We do find out where it's coming from.
>> Yeah,
[33:47] » that can be brought up to the homeowner,
>> the residents. Um
[33:54] 807 Park Ridge and 1166 residents have a
reported uh
[34:00] problems with their approaches. uh 1166
Blind Brook. They have a chunk missing
[34:05] out of the uh the approach and uh
there's some deterioration on 807 Park
[34:12] Ridge. I've got that plan to uh do some
uh concrete patching on that uh on the
[34:20] driveways.
>> We're doing it, right?
[34:22] » We're going to do it. We don't we didn't
do a contract this year. Uh we're going
[34:28] to do this in-house. It's just going to
be patchwork.
[34:30] » Okay. Um,
>> if have you have you let the residents
[34:33] know the plans for
>> I will.
[34:35] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Uh, then this I have an update. Well,
[34:40] Steve had his rideway permit has been
issued. Um,
[34:45] he did post the bond. Uh, I get a
paperwork to Mr. Roer. Uh
[34:52] the back of the ball requires
[34:57] chairman's signature
and then he's moving forward with the
[35:01] work. Our estavator was delivered
Friday.
[35:07] Um he'll be digging his foundation for
his new house soon.
[35:13] » He is planning on living out of a um
>> camper. Camper.
[35:18] » What you call this house? He sold his
house and he moved out last week.
[35:24] » Wait, last
he sold his house.
[35:27] » His house is the one he's living in.
He's building his new house is the one
[35:31] they're building. Uh he plans on putting
camper
[35:36] out there while he's building.
[35:41] » So it
camper on his property. Camper
[35:46] » camper on his property.
>> Okay.
[35:48] » Columbus side. Not not on the road.
>> Not on the road. No.
[35:51] » Yeah. Okay.
>> Not in the back end or the back of the
[35:55] property there.
>> We should park it up.
[35:59] As long as it's out of the rideway.
>> Um, and then do we have an update on the
[36:06] Brookside traffic homing?
>> Um, so I wanted to talk about that.
[36:12] I was not here last time. I don't know
if you ended up. I apologize.
[36:17] » Okay, great. So, it was, I think, a very
productive conversation. Um, got a lot
[36:23] of resident feedback. Nora did reach out
after about what next steps are and we'd
[36:28] like to get back on our calendar. We can
do the next meeting if that works for
[36:32] everybody um for her to kind of review
and provide a revised
[36:38] um deck based on the feedback of the
residents. The what we also need to kind
[36:45] of tee up is based off of that
additional revision is timing for a all
[36:50] resident review. Um now that school is
starting, you know, we can do that at
[36:56] the school. That should be easy to book.
Um,
[37:01] based on availability, I don't know if
you folks want to do like a whole
[37:04] meeting like we've done before where
it's the it happens to be our standard
[37:09] meeting. We just move the location or do
you want to do just a special meeting
[37:13] for that?
>> I just do a special
[37:15] » that you I was just going to do like an
open house meeting.
[37:23] That was my business. I'll I'll do
whatever.
[37:25] » And that's fine.
I don't
[37:27] » I think a special meeting is probably
better just because
[37:30] » people don't want to sit through
business, right? Unless it's an all
[37:34] short meeting, but you know
>> that works.
[37:37] » I think a special meeting is more to the
point. You'll get better turnout.
[37:40] » The other thing that Nora raised in her
message to me is that we are reaching
[37:45] the end of the scope of work that was
initially defined.
[37:50] So, um I think the the recap and the
revision of the deck, it's my
[37:55] understanding, would be part of the
current scope, but we'll have to
[37:59] determine if
>> she but her scope her scope included
[38:02] that all
>> included the resident meeting. Correct.
[38:05] I'm sorry. Through that, but then we
need to determine if if additional
[38:09] action is needed.
>> So, does she re
[38:13] » we can talk to her about that when we
have her on
[38:15] » Okay.
>> for the meeting.
[38:16] » That's fine. Yeah. I mean, I'm just
thinking obviously there are a couple
[38:19] steps after y'all get me.
>> Okay.
[38:23] » Okay.
So, if it works for you folks, then I
[38:26] will confirm her availability for our
next meeting.
[38:29] » Okay.
[38:34] » Anything else under road department? U
Mr. Chainy, did you want to share the
[38:38] new Aqua contact?
>> So, I did reach out. We have a new Aqua
[38:42] contact is um
[38:47] Maurice was our former contact. He's
moved on to another company position.
[38:53] So, uh I left him a message today and
ask for some available dates so that we
[39:00] can at least have a kind of a get to
know you Mr.
[39:05] » Yes. And so we'll get something set up
with you and
[39:10] Petrosi and just get to know each other
real quick and try to get a better
[39:14] understanding of the conclusion of the
pro of the project that they have going
[39:18] on and maybe what what they're looking
for 27. So when he calls back they'll
[39:23] get some dates and shoot them your way
and on the calendar. Hey, I do have one
[39:28] question for you on the roads. So, how
far down is that water line that where
[39:33] they cut across club view?
>> About 5 foot.
[39:38] » How are we going to address um are they
going to repave that entire
[39:43] intersection? Kind of similar to how
they did over this over the school where
[39:47] the where
hits Club View.
[39:51] » It'll be one lane width.
>> It won't be as wide as how they did Club
[39:54] View.
>> Okay.
[39:56] » At at Andlewood. It'll be the the full
lane. My my whole my concern is and you
[40:01] can kind of see what's happening now
with the amount of traffic that keeps
[40:04] hitting that lot. It's going to go and
coming from somebody that had a driveway
[40:09] that you know replaced and it's down.
It's still settling.
[40:13] » So I don't know what their requirements
for compacting whether they're going to
[40:17] do it in lifts or what but that we
really got to make sure
[40:22] » that seems like it's just temporary
right now.
[40:23] » That is temporary. It's temporary
>> and it has dipped down quite a bit.
[40:27] » Yeah. The cold patch that they're using
that's going to work its way out. Uh
[40:30] they're going to do a full depth repair
of the trench of I think it's 10 in of
[40:36] asphalt is what's on the plan.
>> Okay.
[40:38] » And then they'll do the mill out across
there.
[40:41] » All right. Cool. Are they going to
They're doing the fiber mat.
[40:44] » They will not do the fiber mat. We
didn't do the uh
[40:49] the agreement with them this year.
[40:54] Okay,
>> this is just
[40:58] the one lane that they're required on
the specs to uh
[41:04] » Okay.
How How many feet are in the township
[41:08] though? I think it's not that much,
right? About 300 on each street. Okay.
[41:16] I always think it goes like two houses
deep, maybe three. Very much.
[41:21] » Yeah. And we'd be really hard to get
them straer SDI to come in to do 600 ft.
[41:28] » Could we get
I mean we're the only the county doesn't
[41:35] push this on their projects,
>> right?
[41:38] » Do you think we could get the the
alternative? What's it called?
[41:45] » What's circle on the green ask?
>> Well, I wasn't going to say that anyway.
[41:49] Hey, if it's good for Circle Under
Green, it's good for everybody else.
[41:53] So,
>> I have higher standards.
[41:55] » Do you think we could have a
conversation?
[42:00] » We could have a conversation, but it's
going to be hard to get any contractor.
[42:04] The mobiliz mobilization fee to have
them come in to do 600 ft.
[42:09] » Can they is going to be
>> extremely high. Can can can they can
[42:14] they add
like we're we're doing um like our condo
[42:21] association
coat's doing it and they're they're
[42:24] putting a fiber mix into the asphalt as
they mix it and then when they lay it's
[42:29] not like the fiber mat that we're doing
but it is a fiber that they're adding to
[42:34] it.
>> Is there a ch is there a chance that we
[42:37] can
>> look at that?
[42:39] » We can look into it. See if we can
>> I'll send you the product that that
[42:43] they're doing.
>> Does that road have fiber on it right
[42:45] now?
>> Does Mission Hills and Sing?
[42:50] » Mission Hills.
>> I suppose you could make the argument
[42:52] that they got to put it back the way
they found it.
[42:54] » Well, that would be an inch and a half
of asphalt. Some of that were just going
[43:00] outside the township line or right
inside. We're finding like two inches of
[43:04] asphalt, an inch and a half of asphalt
getting down through the base. They're
[43:10] going to end up doing like 10. You said
>> they're going to fill Yeah. Okay.
[43:13] » They're required in the trench
to to fill that to do the full depth
[43:18] there. Uh and then the overlay.
>> Okay.
[43:21] » But yeah, that Sharon has run into a lot
of problems where
[43:26] the asphalt it's an inch and a half, two
inches thick
[43:30] in a lot of spots.
I think what the board doesn't want to
[43:36] see is the the hill on Sharon where it's
got that nice rut.
[43:41] » Oh, I I agree.
>> I mean, again, this is a little bit
[43:44] different. That's a slope. I get it.
>> I mean, a bottle deal.
[43:50] » Yeah.
>> Yeah, that's
[43:52] » that's bad.
>> That's one of those issues with the
[43:56] fiber map.
That's one of the problems with the
[43:59] fiber mat is they did the well they did
Sammy
[44:05] they did fiber mat up the hill
um I mean it's a floating road
[44:11] » right
>> on top of that old asphalt a lot of the
[44:15] trucks
a lot of our construction trucks
[44:19] » over the years have caused a lot of that
where it's hitting the brakes and
[44:23] sliding that asphalt on the Tom reminds
me of it all the
[44:27] I'm sure he does.
[44:32] » Anything else under the road department?
That's all I have. Fire EMS.
[44:37] » I have an upper Arlington uh report for
the month of July. There were eight
[44:41] calls uh into Perry Township. Uh six of
those were on Riverside Drive. One was
[44:47] at Epcon. One was at Revel. I did not
receive a report yet from Warington.
[44:52] » Police.
>> Well, can I add one thing to that? I did
[44:55] talk to Pete. They have not re supposed
to be receiving something from Wharton
[45:00] to fire
and propose revision. He hasn't got it.
[45:04] You haven't got it. So, nothing we can
do until they have a conversation with
[45:08] us.
[45:12] » Your manager is for two weeks.
my conversation with uh Chief Damito,
[45:20] she's gone for two weeks or three weeks
on vacation and had directed legal
[45:25] director the uh legal department to send
that over, but my conversation with Pete
[45:31] on Friday was already fantastic.
[45:37] » We have to wait on that.
>> Yeah, I mean we can't do anything to us.
[45:46] um
police um received the um public records
[45:52] policy and fee schedule that um you all
approved. Pete approved it, sent it to
[45:56] the Frank County Pro office. They
approved it. So now it's a matter of a
[46:00] start date of when we want to implement
it.
[46:03] » Anything under eBike other than what we
talked about?
[46:06] » No, I just have you all
>> we all approve. We've all approved that.
[46:09] » This is the flyer. Just wanted to make
sure there was no issues or questions
[46:12] flyer. As long as you are good with
that, I'll make sure it gets sent out.
[46:16] » All right.
>> Do Do you need a an effective date for
[46:19] the schedule?
>> I think you have I think you have to
[46:22] adopt it. So, I was thinking
>> Yeah, we probably need a resolution to
[46:26] » set that as policy
>> because that'll that that applies to um
[46:30] admin as well for public records. So,
it's townshipwide.
[46:34] So I would say
September 1st, October or something like
[46:39] that where we have time to push it out,
deblast it, post it and say starting
[46:44] this date, this is the new fee schedule.
>> Okay.
[46:49] » Uh you want a date?
>> That's why I said I I think we could do
[46:53] September 1st. That's still a couple
weeks out. Or do you want to go longer?
[46:56] » Um well, if we have to do a resolution,
this has to be after a meeting, right?
[47:01] » Yeah. I
We have training tomorrow. Let's ask
[47:05] that question and then we'll put it on
the next meeting agenda. Okay. For the
[47:09] 9th. Okay. Okay.
Uh Mr. Administrator.
[47:15] Um,
we currently send out quarterly
[47:19] newsletters
and we have had some conversation about
[47:27] trying to fill those
newsletters with articles on a quarterly
[47:32] basis and sometimes we
rerun things. So the idea is or the
[47:39] proposal is let's go to a semianual
newsletter. Every six months we'll send
[47:44] one out. We can make it a little larger
in content
[47:50] and we
we are not putting that um
[48:00] I won't call it a burden on our as
township uh administrative assistant to
[48:06] to put that together and get it out four
times a year. So I would ask
[48:13] board's opinion and whether or not
they're in favor of that.
[48:17] » I think she does a great job. First of
all, there's a lot of work involved in
[48:21] it because it's a big document.
So,
[48:26] I I don't know if it's twice a year or
three times a year or we're currently at
[48:31] four times a year. And we we also think
I mean we also check will continue to
[48:36] put out
>> eblast
[48:38] » e-blass and notifications if something
big's coming up chipping seizing things
[48:42] of that c you know but those newsletters
that provide the various articles from
[48:48] all the department head
>> I think twice a year is full
[48:51] » what about what about like doing it in
June for the for the fourth that seems a
[48:56] major event we'll have it thing and then
the next one would be maybe December you
[49:02] because yeah
>> I think those are good timelines.
[49:06] » Yeah, because usually in December you
kind of know the calendar for the
[49:10] following year. So you can put a copy of
the magnet calendar version of that. You
[49:16] can, you know.
>> Yep.
[49:18] And there's stuff just to announce to,
you know, for the holidays. So that
[49:24] maybe you do it like in November and
June or something. Whatever you whatever
[49:28] you got to see, you know.
I think before the holidays and before
[49:33] the 4th of July
>> in November maybe. So that's before
[49:38] » maybe late May then November. Yeah. By
>> late summer return
[49:45] too late.
>> Well
[49:48] » be too late.
>> You can do it separate email blast and
[49:51] all that.
>> Yeah.
[49:53] » You know a little more aggressive with
the schools
[49:57] short of taking hostages.
We can be more aggressive than we were
[50:00] last year, but
all right, we'll keep driving.
[50:07] Um,
[50:15] has created, and I'll just send this
down real quick. She's created this
[50:20] trifold little document that we want to
hand out at events that the police are
[50:28] at where we're going to be much like
this uh event that's going to happen
[50:34] down at uh uh Epcon.
And it just gives people information
[50:39] about what they can receive
through the eblast. There's a there's a
[50:45] QR code where they can go in and sign up
for the eblast.
[50:49] It's a wellthoughtout and well put
together document. I we're just looking
[50:55] for the board to say we're good with
that as something a piece of
[50:58] communication that we will hand out to
people.
[51:02] » I love it. I think it looks wonderful.
>> That's great.
[51:05] » I have one
suggestion if it's not too late.
[51:10] » Nope, not too late. the under the trash
and recycling section next to the QR
[51:14] code. Y
>> it says the township does not provide
[51:16] residential trash collection.
>> I get we are not the provider,
[51:20] » but I think from our residents
perspective that's probably semantics.
[51:24] You know what I mean? Maybe instead it's
Rumkey is the provider. You know what I
[51:29] mean? Like here's what
>> Rum is our current provider.
[51:31] » Rum is our current provider.
>> We're going to be coming up on agree.
[51:35] Maybe something about who it is
>> that it's not us
[51:39] » on behalf of the town.
>> Good point.
[51:43] » Good catch. That's how a lawyer.
[51:48] » That's free.
>> Is that
[51:52] too
a couple other questions while you're in
[51:55] the
>> the help desk?
[52:00] » I I do think it looks great though. It
looks so professional. It looks like
[52:04] somebody I can't believe that came out
of our our offices.
[52:08] » I can't. Our people are that good.
>> Yeah, she she is amazing. And and I'm
[52:13] going to kind of jump
>> That's my next item. Anyway, I'm going
[52:17] to jump to this website update. Um we've
sat down, we've talked to three
[52:23] different companies. Our our website is
the exact same website
[52:28] layout setup as it was when we put it
together 11 years ago going on 12 years.
[52:36] Pictures that were on that website were
pictures that were taken 12 years ago.
[52:40] Um
so those places like those flower beds
[52:44] that were in there, they don't exist
anymore. Everything has changed. So, we
[52:48] thought about we probably update this,
but we can't update it because our
[52:52] current Civic Plus
that was not part of our package that we
[52:56] bought. Um, and so they are willing to
help us put together
[53:03] redesign. That's the term they use.
They're willing to help us redesign our
[53:08] website and
make it a little better. and they can do
[53:12] that for us at the low low cost of about
$8,300.
[53:19] Then we met with um
SPG
[53:24] which is a website
shoemaker technology group and it's a
[53:30] website building company and they'll
build you a website um from scratch
[53:37] and they will be glad to help us with a
website starting at about 34.95
[53:44] for a year for the cost. Then they have
additional little underlying costs that
[53:51] if you need different things they they
charge you for. Um it is almost
[53:57] identical when you look at how that
website works are almost identical to
[54:02] Civic Plus. Um
I can tell you that the ladies sort of
[54:08] responsible for our website find Civic
Plus to be very difficult to navigate
[54:12] through. We also met with a company
called Revise.
[54:18] Revise can help us design and build a
whole new website. And guys, again, all
[54:24] this information is in there for you. Uh
so you don't have to belabor what I'm
[54:29] trying to say here and and just consume
it all. But um Revise will build us a
[54:36] whole new website.
It will cost us
[54:41] um about
I figure out that number. I think it's
[54:45] like $12,000.
[54:49] But with that option, we can spread that
cost out over five years. So we're
[54:53] paying about $3,700 a year over five
years. And at the end of the fourth
[54:59] year, they will give us a whole new
redesign. We will go back in and redo
[55:03] the whole thing as a part of that cost.
So,
[55:08] I I think I think at some point we got
to make them we got to make changes to
[55:13] our website. I think we need to make it
a little easier. I think our ladies have
[55:17] demonstrated that they have some skill
sets that can really make what we have
[55:22] available to our residents look
wonderful, but we got to give them the
[55:26] tools to be able to do that. Um, and our
website, our current website with Civic
[55:31] Plus is not the tool. Um, and I am not a
fan of the service we've gotten from
[55:36] them. I've had to send several
emails that have been less than cordial
[55:42] just to get some folks attention.
>> What What are we paying for Civic Plus
[55:45] right now a month?
>> Uh, we pay Andy, I think annually
[55:54] over 4,000 5,000 a year.
>> Okay. I I I don't have I'm sorry. I
[56:00] don't number I don't have
but I I'll get it for you.
[56:04] » Okay.
>> But again I I just think
[56:06] » so not a month.
>> Oh no no no we pay annually.
[56:09] » No no no five. So it's 5,000 a year.
>> Yes.
[56:13] » Okay.
>> Right. And in this company this revise
[56:16] would be 30 someund a year over five
years.
[56:23] And again in that fifth year, fourth
year going into the fifth year, we would
[56:26] do a complete redesign as a part of that
cost.
[56:31] » Apologies if I missed it, but are they
would they also be hosting the same?
[56:35] » Yes, they are the host.
>> So you're saying it's less than what we
[56:40] pay now?
>> Yes.
[56:42] » But we get a ref we get a revised plan
and we we build this cost out over
[56:51] » over that five years. If we go with
Civic Plus to redesign what we have, we
[56:54] got to pay him the $8,300 upfront. And
that's really um well, if we're not
[57:00] happy with Civic Plus, this is one of
those things where
[57:04] if if cost is about the same, maybe even
if it's a 10 more,
[57:10] you know, I like to think we give our
police chief the tools he needs, I the
[57:14] tools he needs. We don't really talk
sometimes about, you know, office
[57:18] people, but you know, we have talented
people there and and they know what they
[57:21] like and they don't like and I think you
ought to if the price is, you know,
[57:29] » I I would defer to them on that.
>> I agree. I mean, Amanda and Faith, I sat
[57:35] through all these meetings, Amanda
able to ask all the pertinent questions
[57:41] that they have relative to managing this
process.
[57:45] And of the three, this is their
recommendation on what is best and
[57:50] easiest for them to
>> and their $12,000
[57:54] to redo
>> everything and the host
[57:57] » and divide it by five,
>> right?
[58:00] » So, because if it's if it's $3,700 over
5 years, that's $18,500
[58:06] we'd be paying for the website over five
years.
[58:10] » And that 12,000 Let's see here, Andy.
5-year guarantee first grant total
[58:19] is 108
I think that's to build it and then the
[58:24] other cost and must be the hosting cost
but
[58:31] over five years so we get to spread the
10,800 over five years.
[58:35] » Yes.
>> And then the monthly hosting is would
[58:38] equal to 3700.
>> Yeah.
[58:45] Andy.
>> Well, I mean that the only other thing
[58:48] with Civics Plus, I mean, we have a
website. It's built. I understand that
[58:53] Luke added
>> 300 pages, but you know, the other thing
[58:56] that you can do is you can call Civic
Plus and say, "Hey, if you guys don't
[59:00] fix this, then we're we're leaving."
>> We told them that.
[59:04] » Okay. And they're like, "Okay, you got
to build it. It's your problem. They
[59:09] take them down." So the other question I
have is how much transferable stuff
[59:13] because the other thing that you have to
look at is what stuff can weed down that
[59:18] because the last time the reason why we
went Civic Plus it was it was super easy
[59:23] to upload and to do and they had all
their you know like I don't want this to
[59:28] turn into another massive project. It's
like if they can download what we got
[59:33] put it up into the new thing and we're
off and running awesome. Well, they said
[59:37] what? The first 500 pages are migrated
for free,
[59:41] » right? The other thing.
>> The other thing we need to and I'm sorry
[59:46] I didn't
>> pay his own thing like the zoning code
[59:50] to stuff.
>> Yeah.
[59:51] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Tell
[59:53] » that's all that all come over. But this
company also has the ability to manage
[59:58] eblast revised does eblast and their
eblast system is not only a an email but
[1:00:06] they also text.
Um, we don't have that right now with uh
[1:00:11] our current vendor
and that's not Civic Plus. That is Eye
[1:00:17] Contact. I believe is we use for the
weirdest candies
[1:00:24] candy.
I'm happy with the candy. I don't
[1:00:29] » forget about our website. Let's talk
about
[1:00:31] » So, what's their So, what's their what's
their term say from the time we say go?
[1:00:35] How how long is it going to take for
that?
[1:00:38] » Andy will not be back until they get the
website.
[1:00:40] » I believe I believe Andy
>> Crackle Crackle and Mr.
[1:00:45] » have it up and running in uh six weeks I
believe was the the date and
[1:00:52] see now you're testing my memory Andy
because we
[1:00:56] um but I thought he said six weeks but
I'll verify that for you and get that.
[1:01:00] » So the Okay, so they do offer those
things. I see it down in the add-ons,
[1:01:04] but that's not part of the quote that
we've got, right?
[1:01:07] » No, but we're we're already paying a
separate fee for eye contact,
[1:01:11] » right?
[1:01:16] » When's the next time you meet with or
have with these folks, you know, um
[1:01:23] while they're waiting for us to say,
"All right, we want to sit and talk
[1:01:26] specifically about time frames and get
going. Let's get moving on
[1:01:32] we're going to do here and how we're
going to do it.
[1:01:34] » So, does the board want to see a
>> a proposal?
[1:01:37] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like a like
[1:01:39] » I mean because it sounds like if this
was to move forward, revise as the
[1:01:44] company that you would select.
>> Yes.
[1:01:46] » So,
does it make sense to either invite them
[1:01:50] to meeting or you don't need to?
>> I don't need to get into depths. It's
[1:01:55] just like because here's the thing. If
if you look at the analytics, the
[1:01:58] analytics is we're we're only getting
20. We get 2,200 visits a month and half
[1:02:05] of those are
you know people that are just bounces
[1:02:10] because you look at the bounce rate it's
like well no the average time on our
[1:02:14] website is 34 seconds so people are
coming in to look for exactly they're
[1:02:19] getting the information and then they're
out or they're looking for Perry
[1:02:24] Township that's up in Akran and they're
like oh wrong Perry and then they're
[1:02:27] out. So people are coming for
information on trash zoning and police
[1:02:36] or you know public that that's it. So if
we can I don't care personally I don't
[1:02:42] care about pictures. I don't care about
you know all the because how the stuff
[1:02:46] that we're doing is it's sending to our
Facebook page which is all the pretty
[1:02:50] stuff and all that other good stuff. So
I I just I don't I'm not putting a lot
[1:02:55] of weight into it as long as the
information that people are coming to
[1:02:58] get and that would be zoning, you know,
police and um trash.
[1:03:06] » Well, let's get a little more community
concrete proposal.
[1:03:09] » Okay, I'll get I'll get exact numbers.
Do you want me to have them include with
[1:03:14] this quote what the their eblast add-on
is as well?
[1:03:19] » Yeah, maybe. And And and make sure you
include from our end what we pay right
[1:03:25] now for that stuff. So we kind of
compare
[1:03:28] » apples to apples. You know what are we
paying our monthly for email blast? We
[1:03:31] we pay monthly for website and then you
know what if we that sounds like we're
[1:03:37] not going to go with silver plus but I
mean if you had a redesign you know just
[1:03:42] the standard chart we see like for
health insurance you know here's here's
[1:03:46] the difference
[1:03:51] with color columns so pie chart
[1:03:58] so one good thing about This
don't they do um um text messages?
[1:04:05] » Yeah, we talked about that that they can
do email and text and their
[1:04:11] notification. We currently only get
email.
[1:04:14] » Do they charge separate for those or
this it's just like together?
[1:04:18] » It's together and it's just part of
their
[1:04:21] addon. It's an add-on to the whole
package.
[1:04:25] » Well, I wish we had more email
addresses. It'd be nice to be able to
[1:04:29] text somebody out on the,
you know, a road closure and those kind
[1:04:34] of things that you want to
>> Most Most people will pick up a text
[1:04:37] message before they pick up their email,
>> right?
[1:04:41] » Yeah. Okay. Let me let me get these
exact numbers for you. I have that for
[1:04:46] you by next meeting. Uh again,
gentlemen,
[1:04:52] all of that is in the broch in the in
the folder that's on web on the page and
[1:04:56] then it's all right here for you as
well. If you want to just really sit and
[1:05:01] read that, I I will tell you this is
kind of
[1:05:07] the folks that have to deal with this
and this is what Amanda has said to me.
[1:05:11] We are definitely facing limitations in
editing capabilities
[1:05:15] uh and having significant communication
issues with Civic Plus.
[1:05:21] She
she worked with Civic Plus when she was
[1:05:25] at Prairie. She said they didn't have
those problems, but they had a
[1:05:30] they had a different
account manager.
[1:05:35] » Our account manager was a gal from
Texas. I don't know how we ended up with
[1:05:39] her. Sometimes you just get like hell
about the camera.
[1:05:43] » But again, in our communication with
trying to resolve some of these matters
[1:05:47] is the 400 pages that are up there. How
do we take these down? That's that's
[1:05:53] your problem. You got to figure it out.
You don't have the tools. Well, they're
[1:05:57] always wanting to sell you something.
Again, I'm I'm not a not a fan of that
[1:06:01] organization and how they offer service.
>> Well, this is really here's my this is
[1:06:07] really an Andy thing. contract thing,
shell thing, and the color change. And
[1:06:12] they're good with it, then we're good.
>> There you go. Excellent job.
[1:06:18] » Absolutely. Just like that peak making
thing.
[1:06:23] Everybody says,
>> "All right, we'll work on that." Um,
[1:06:28] trickor treat. Morpc is saying October
29th. You guys want to go with that
[1:06:33] date?
>> Have small children. Chair, my move that
[1:06:35] we set trick-or- treat night for October
the 29th, Thursday, Wednesday. Second.
[1:06:42] » Well, yes.
>> Okay. A reluctant guess.
[1:06:46] » Why? We want to be on trick or treat
October 31st.
[1:06:50] » Saturday on a Saturday.
>> Do you move July 4th? Do you move
[1:06:54] Christmas?
>> No, but Thanksgiving always the third.
[1:06:59] » Saturday be awesome.
>> I thought trickor treat was
[1:07:01] » trick-or- treat on Saturday. Awesome.
>> I thought against safety.
[1:07:07] » You just don't want to be out of sync
with everybody else. That's,
[1:07:10] » you know, you want to be in sync with
Sharon and Columbus cuz it right. This
[1:07:15] is my own little personal.
>> We can have two. Mr. Roer will get over
[1:07:20] it for adult.
Spoiler alert. It doesn't matter because
[1:07:25] when it rains, and it will
>> on Thursday the or the then we will be
[1:07:30] asked. We're not holding it on a
different night. Period.
[1:07:34] » I understand a little bit on Friday
night cuz you know, high school.
[1:07:39] » Yeah. But Saturday night, I mean, you've
got all of the adults going out and
[1:07:44] driving under the infl.
>> It is what it is. October 20. Oh,
[1:07:47] they're not on their ebikes.
>> On their ebikes and they're wearing a
[1:07:51] purple robe.
>> We're going to educate.
[1:07:54] » Okay. So, it is the We're going with the
29th. Going 29th. All right. Um,
[1:08:00] thank you.
>> September is coming up. We had some
[1:08:05] discussion last year about whether or
not we're going to a fall cookout or a
[1:08:09] Christmas party.
>> You're talking where we invite
[1:08:13] everybody,
>> families, everybody.
[1:08:16] » Yep.
>> Yeah. Or do you want to do the Christmas
[1:08:20] party? I I I think it's I I thought we
landed on we wanted it more intimate
[1:08:26] with just the staff for Christmas
instead of open it up and then do the
[1:08:30] fall cookout where it's nicer. We got
more room.
[1:08:32] » I'm willing to do it. I'm I'm all about
I'm just trying to agree.
[1:08:37] » I mean I it's just like it's
>> you have more room too if you do it, you
[1:08:41] know.
>> I think
[1:08:42] » it forces you to clean up your garage.
>> My garage is clean. But you know, you
[1:08:47] have more room out there. It's more
casual.
[1:08:50] It was so packed in here this year
>> for Christmas.
[1:08:54] » For Christmas.
>> And we can Yeah. And then the kids could
[1:08:57] be running around. They could, you know,
like we
[1:08:59] » touch a truck.
>> Kids.
[1:09:01] » Mhm.
>> Our own touch of truck.
[1:09:04] » Touch a truck. See, you can't do that.
And then the And then for Christmas,
[1:09:08] we'll just do
>> staff. Yeah.
[1:09:12] » Without families. Is that okay?
>> No, just staff.
[1:09:15] » No spouse.
>> No spouse.
[1:09:17] » No kids.
>> No kids. No great deal.
[1:09:21] » Yeah. Okay.
>> Good.
[1:09:23] » We'll get that politic officials. Um if
you ask of the board,
[1:09:28] » we'll invite people
>> if the board can send me a couple of
[1:09:33] dates that you're available in
September. I'd like to schedule this
[1:09:37] when you guys are going to be in town.
>> Can we Can we do it Can we do it like
[1:09:41] sort of like later on in the afternoon?
like maybe a Thursday where you know
[1:09:45] like we end the day instead of doing it
middle of the day.
[1:09:50] » I'm I'm fine with that's called happy
hour.
[1:09:54] » I wasn't I wasn't going to say that but
said you went there. Yes, it's happy
[1:09:59] hour.
>> Are there any rules about drinking if
[1:10:01] you're not operating town
>> and then you know everybody you know I
[1:10:04] just like
[1:10:07] » you could just go to
you could just go to picnic. Right.
[1:10:11] » Right. It could be it could be like a
>> the fall the fall batch.
[1:10:15] » Yeah, we can do whatever. Maybe ask
people what they would prefer, you know,
[1:10:20] but
>> quick poll.
[1:10:22] » All right. I mean, what's most liability
if we drink,
[1:10:27] » but I'll just throw this out. I was
going to say this. We should put a new
[1:10:31] » We're going we're going to Texas for my
granddaughter's second birthday. We
[1:10:37] leave on Saturday,
September 5th, and I don't get back
[1:10:42] until until Sunday the 13th.
>> 11.
[1:10:48] » So, okay. So, the last So, I will not be
here the next meeting.
[1:10:51] » So,
>> the next two weeks of the last two weeks
[1:10:54] of September, we're looking at
>> Yeah. Why don't we do it September or
[1:10:57] the first week of
>> October?
[1:10:59] » Yeah. Cooler
leaves are starting.
[1:11:02] » You know, whatever you guys I'm all
about it.
[1:11:04] » Let's do it. Last week of October or
first week of October?
[1:11:08] » Yeah, the last week.
>> How about the 29th? Let's do it on
[1:11:11] October 29th.
>> No, we're going to do it on the 30th.
[1:11:15] » I have to wear a costume.
>> Yeah, there you go. We could do the
[1:11:18] Perry Township costume party. Halloween
costume party.
[1:11:21] » I would actually be out. Oh, you could
do it on Thursday, October 1st.
[1:11:26] October Fest. Perry Township Fest.
>> Let's do that. Let's do October 1st.
[1:11:30] » Then one is that one to
>> three to five.
[1:11:33] » Three to five.
I thought we were going to ask the the
[1:11:37] employees.
>> No, not they love it. They love it.
[1:11:41] » Well, we picked the time. They love it.
>> They can pick the time.
[1:11:45] » What?
>> Okay.
[1:11:48] We can pick the day. That doesn't
matter. 5:00, don't we?
[1:11:52] » I like that a lot.
>> Uh, you know what? I I've lost. We have
[1:11:58] Jimmy leak or
>> what's that?
[1:12:00] » We have Jimmy Buffet me. We can,
>> you know, I'm thinking we should hold it
[1:12:03] somewhere other than the township.
[1:12:07] » I know a guy.
>> You always do.
[1:12:10] » It holds a place right across the road
here.
[1:12:16] » But this is supposed to be a family, but
you don't want to see.
[1:12:19] » I spend all my time with my family. I'm
good.
[1:12:23] » That'll be the Christmas party.
>> Yeah.
[1:12:25] » Why don't we just wait until the
Christmas party and then we'll do it
[1:12:28] offsite?
God.
[1:12:32] » Oh my god.
>> Love it.
[1:12:35] » I tell you what, why don't you have Andy
coordinate everything.
[1:12:38] » Love it.
>> That was my event planning.
[1:12:43] » Um, we've already talked about the tips,
so I'll move that and then check I'm
[1:12:48] going to over the U.
[1:12:58] » Was that on there? for the uh 41 acres.
>> Oh,
[1:13:04] » everyone ask for that.
[1:13:09] » Yeah,
>> we table the next day.
[1:13:12] » I can't be here, but that's okay.
>> Whatever the majority does.
[1:13:20] » Well, if he doesn't miss the party,
we're
[1:13:22] » all good.
>> Chef, do you have any type of update on
[1:13:25] the
161?
[1:13:28] » Yes. So, uh, we're going to be inviting,
um, the project manager to one of our
[1:13:35] two September meetings. Obviously, now
it's going to be the second meeting.
[1:13:39] » First meeting is the best.
>> Jim's not going to be here. So, I'll
[1:13:42] just give him a call. He's coming to I
think 17th or something like that. No,
[1:13:47] that's not right. 21st.
>> I think it's the 21st.
[1:13:51] » He was going to let us know which one
those two dates.
[1:13:53] » Yeah, I know. But now we've decided for
him. Kind of like the Christmas party
[1:13:56] and the
>> Yeah.
[1:13:59] So I I'll reach out to him tomorrow
about the 21st.
[1:14:04] » Okay.
That's all I had.
[1:14:07] » Anything else other before we get the
fiscal officer?
[1:14:11] » Fiscal officer.
>> That's a motion for approval of payroll
[1:14:14] and dispersements.
>> So moved.
[1:14:16] » Second vote.
>> Yes.
[1:14:18] » Yes.
>> Anything else before we adjourn?
[1:14:20] » Um I'm sorry. Wait.
The public works commission.
[1:14:24] » Yep. We
>> the CFO and the CEO would be you and
[1:14:31] » we don't need a motion at all. We just
need to sign
[1:14:33] » just need to sign it and that's just to
allow them to have the money released
[1:14:39] » this first
that it's coming from the the grant.
[1:14:45] This does not affect our our portion.
>> We're still working. You know, being
[1:14:51] that's
>> there was a way to uh
[1:14:57] » help leverage.
>> Did we adjourn?
[1:15:00] » Make a motion to adjurnn it.
>> Second.
[1:15:01] » Vote.
>> Yes.
[1:15:02] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:15:05] » Thank you.
>> Not in your but
[1:15:11] » thank you for my temporary water
feature.
[1:15:14] » I'm going to return. to get a lot of
those fasia.