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Public utilities, committee meetings, order for March 27, 2024 at 6.30 p.m. Councilman Fuller and Councilman

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Reddick are here. Councilman Wall of Sign is not with us this evening and we have met

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you know what, as well as Joe Fossil.

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Well, everyone.

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I just want my shoe.

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You remember.

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I was hoping to see you.

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If you would please,

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we'll turn me in the photo with you.

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Much of it.

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This is the student of the White,

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the United States of America.

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And as you can remember,

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we're which is SAMHSA.

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One nation.

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I thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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on the surface.

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All the special.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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We'll move on.

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We'll move the objections to the meeting minutes

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from previous move to pass.

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Objections to stand approved.

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Any sort of credit statement.

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All right.

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Good.

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The evening.

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Council members.

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I think passed out a.

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tabulation of the senator sewer credits since the last public utilities committee meeting.

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For this last period of time, we had a singular residence.

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We had a backup power water sum pump that was running.

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We went on tested to make sure that it is just charging into the storm sewer.

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As is our protocol, and we termed that was.

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And this is for a singular residence over a two month or two month building period.

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totaling $535 in the 18 cents, this was at 867 Walnut Street, and as I mentioned,

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we had confirmed that it is a deep discharging appropriately, and our

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tabulation for the year is now $4,42400 and $2900 in sewer credit.

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Any questions?

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No.

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No.

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Myself, either.

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Move forward to the new water and sewer rates presentation.

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We have a guest with us as a student.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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This is Michael Maker.

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He is the deputy director of water studies.

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Practice.

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You know what?

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Practice.

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As U.S. strategies.

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They are.

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The city of Parisburg's rate consultant, and they helped establish the previous set of rates and looking at where we stand and projected the rate to be the future, it appears that we are going to have some shortfalls to stem those off.

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We work with new general strategies to find out what rates need to be adjusted to or to avoid those shortfalls.

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And we ask, I'd like to put together a presentation to help excited, what we work where we are and where we expect to be.

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Thank you, Matt.

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Are you leaving?

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Evening.

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So I do a brief presentation.

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Feel free to stop me as we go up.

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You have any questions and hopefully you're the eye on that and answer that question.

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So just the guiding principles and objectives of the study.

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You just, just again, just say your name and then.

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Sure.

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Also for your wealth.

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Sure.

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I'm Mike Maker, I'm with new gen strategies and solutions.

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I'm a partner with the firm and the Deputy Director of the Water Practice.

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I'm our office, is there an afflist Maryland?

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That's glad to hear.

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Thank you.

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So for the study, the guiding principles are objectives.

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So the water and sewer enterprise funds should be financially self-supporting.

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So that is, they should not be subsidized by the general fund.

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And should not in turn subsidize the general fund.

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Certainly if there are expenses of the general fund, services they provide to the enterprise fund,

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and they certainly reimbursed for that, so IT finance, things like that.

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Ideally, Warren's sewer shouldn't subsidize each other either, so you shouldn't have

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a water customer's paying for sewer and vice versa.

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Intelligent maintain reserves provide for contingencies, unplanned expenses, so we have built

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in an operating reserve, they're kind of a rainy day fund, and we'll discuss that.

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And then the water sewer rates should be kept as low as possible over time, and we've

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system, and then you'll have a water main break or something that's catastrophic and you need

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to do a lot of great increase. So the goal is to invest in the system now, you know,

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sustainably over the long-term, so you kind of keep rates low for the long-term. So our

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objectives to ensure rates are stable through sound financial management, and we do that by

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viewing the funds and preparing a long-term financial plan.

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So some of the factors that affect

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a lot of surcharge rates, so these are going to like our assumptions for the study, obviously

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the operating main expenses, that's going to be your labor, your benefits, your supply materials.

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You know, essentially, you know, 80% of your costs are really fixed.

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Other than, you know, chemicals electricity, obviously the purchase of water from Toledo is

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going to be a big variable,

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but, you know, predominantly most of your expenses are fixed.

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Your salaries, your debt service, things like that.

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So, some of the things that obviously affect rates and charges of purchase of water from

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Toledo, that's based on their contracted rate increases that they provided and I can give you

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detail on that if we need to get into it, but essentially, you know, from roughly fiscal year

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23 through 26, I looked at what the potential Toledo purchase of water cost is and it's

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about 50% of your entire need for costs.

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So what that means if they implement a 10% rate increase, that's an automatic 5% rate increase,

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you need to put it at the 50% rate to all costs.

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You also have the wheel and cost from Northwest, one in sewer district, that's about a 10%

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That's 10% of your total cost.

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So those two together, there's only 60% of your needs.

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And, you know, you don't really have to control of that.

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So whatever rate increases, they pass on to you.

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You kind of have to pass that on to the customer.

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See, I've these a couple of borrowed plans.

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That's obviously another big one.

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So that's investment in your distribution collection.

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Treatment systems.

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And those can either be cash funded, debt funded, or come directly from,

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you know, retained earnings, or cash balances.

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debt service, so that's both any existing, so any principal interest payments, you currently

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have in the books, so you need to pay those obligations, and then any capital projects

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that we plan on debt funding, we've assumed that 4.5% interest rate and a 20-year maturity

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on those.

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So a lot of those projects are full, it'll along my assets, things are our last several decades,

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so it kind of makes sense to tie those to a long-term plan so that not just today's customers

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are paying for those with kind of future customers who are going to benefit from that as well.

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Customer change is the historical growth, the trend of the growth, you've been growing about 1%

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per year and actual number of new customers or connections. However, on the usage, so we

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kind of separate those out, you have your new customers, but then how much usage those

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customers are using, and that's been relatively flat. So you may be adding a handful of customers

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each year, but you know, on average we're seeing across the country, you know, customers

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using less per capita. So it's low for low fixtures, you're smaller household sizes, conservation

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things like that. Miscellaneous revenues, that's things, other than raising chargers, we're just...

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Being conservative here and assuming really no growth in those, and then a reserve target I mentioned. So we're targeting a combined operating capital bones.

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You have those two funds for each water and sewer, a 180 days of operating expenses. So roughly 50% of the operating expenses kept in what we call a rainy day fund or kind of a rate stabilization fund.

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So you have some funds to fall back on. When we get to the plan, you'll see we're actually using some of your existing cash. So we're not putting it all in the backs of the rate payers. We're actually using some existing cash to hold off its rating increases.

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These are showing that the billing blocks of the revenue requirements is essentially a fancy

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term for the expenses of the system, so the revenue required and collected.

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So, at the base here, we were operating expenses.

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Again, those are just your salaries, your meat and materials supplies, things like that.

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Adding on top of that, any debt service that you're currently having to pay for our cash-running

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capital projects, so those are anything we're going to pay for in the exact year that

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those products take place, and then any new debt service, so those are projects that we're

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debt fund, they're kind of they're large one-time low-key projects, things you're not doing

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every year and we have the payments starting the next year after the project you get started.

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So we add all that up, that's where we really need to collect from customers, that's our annual

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revenue requirement.

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This is highlights some of the larger capital projects for the next three

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years, so the current year 24 and then 25 and 26. And for all these we're showing a three-year

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land because as Mack can give you some further detail on, I know that the sewer CIP is

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kind of up in the air, a better idea of exactly what the needs are going to be in 2026.

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So we're really just showing the next two and a half years rate plenty out.

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So some of the large capital products of water, there's the campus improvements, the portion

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that's funded through water, and that will be debt funded front second and third waterline

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replacement, that's another 2 million that's going straight out of the capital fund, and then

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the 5th and 6th Street Warming Replacement, that's going to come from a rate revenue or

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a new rates will pay for that.

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And then for sewer, we've got a big project for the primary clear fire, that's 15 million

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that will obviously be dead funded, because there'll be a big chunk to pay up in one year.

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The era of digester improvements, that's another 5 million, that one's coming straight from

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the capital fund, and so not going into rates, but coming straight from existing reserves, and

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And again, also the campus improvements, the portion that the source and the pay for there.

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And there's others that are in the detail with those kind of large ones for the next two and a half years.

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So we kind of stack up those costs.

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The blue again being the operating expenses, this is for water.

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And then the green being the cash running capital projects.

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Doesn't look like any new debt service for water here.

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Don't see a purple.

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But then if we look at that line going across the horizontal blue line,

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that's what you're bringing in right now in terms of revenue.

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So any time those stacked column charts are higher than that blue line, that means you're running

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a deficit.

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And any time, it's above that means you're running a surplus.

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It's a dark blue line that's kind of sloping up to the right.

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That's our proposed plan to kind of cover those costs and make sure we're meeting that

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180 days cash balance by the end of 2026.

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So you can see sometimes even our proposed plan is still a shortfall, and that's because

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we're using some of the existing cash so that we're not putting it all as a rating crease.

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And then you'll see the note at the bottom that dark blue line is sloping up to the right.

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That represents a...

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So you're able to 3% increase in in January 1st.

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So you want to get that out of the way.

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And then we're proposing a 10% rate increase July 1st this year.

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Another 10% January 1st next year.

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And then another 10% January 1st 26.

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And that doesn't mention at that point you'd want to reevaluate

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what the capital improvements look like from their own.

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So how does that affect the cash balance?

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So the red line here is our target 180 days,

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and it's going to increase as operating expenses increase

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and it's tied to that as a percentage.

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But that blue stack you can see starting in 2023,

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you're starting with about 10 million combined operating capital balance.

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And you can see we're using that over time

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in addition to those increases that we referred to.

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So that combination of increases with use of fund balance

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gets you to meet that 180 days cash by 2026.

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And they turn to sewer, the same two charts here.

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Again, the blue being, operating expenses,

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red being, current debt service, green being,

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cash fund projects, which you can see there's a significant amount

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there in 20425, and then new debt service

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that we start to the next year.

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So, this proposing increase would be a 2% increase that already went to effect in January 1st,

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and then a 6% increase in July 1st January 1st, and then January 1st again.

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And here for the next chart, you can see we're using a significant amount of cash to offset the increases.

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So, in 23, here we have a combined roughly 23 million dollars, an operating capital balance.

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And we're bringing that all the way down to roughly 13, 13 and a half by the end of 26.

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Here you can see it's clearly above 180 days minimum amounts.

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So these are just what kind of charges and rates are right now.

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So for water and sewer you have a monthly minimum charge.

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So that's a 300 cubic feet.

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So regardless of how much water you use, you pay for 300 cubic feet is a monthly minimum.

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And then anything above that, you pay per 1,000 cubic feet, and it's separate inside and outside charges.

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And then for sewer, there's also separate, whether you have one meter or two meter,

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with the second meter being for irrigation.

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And then you also have some customers who don't receive any treatment service, and they pay less.

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And then taking those rates, are taking those current day rates,

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and then applying those three 10% increases.

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This is what those would look like going forward.

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And again, it's just taking those percentages and applying across the board.

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We usually say customers don't care what their rates are,

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they want their bills going to be.

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So this is a monthly bill impact for 2024.

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So the current bills that are already in place

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that were imposed, January 1st, and then the bills would be on July 1st.

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So you can see for water that a 10% increase,

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sewer the 6%, and then if you have water and sewer,

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if you're both services, which most customers usually do,

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they'd see an 8% increase as opposed to the 10 or the 6.

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as you combine.

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And then bringing that forward through the next several years, the next three years.

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If we take that median user example, the 50th percentile uses 500 cubic feet per month.

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It currently pay 7673. That would go at 8296, which is that any percent increase or a 6-dollar increase per month.

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That would then be 8972, which is another $6.76 increase, and then 9707 by January 1st.

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which will be another eight percent, eight percent increase.

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Here's a comparison to some surrounding utilities.

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And again, this is not always going to be apples apples.

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This is exactly what Billy would pay if you use fiber to cubic feet per month

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and you live in these different areas.

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We try to make it as comparable as possible, so it does include treatment distribution collection and treatment again.

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But again, we don't know any increases. These other places might be doing, so this is really there. Current day rates, compare to your current and compare to your projected increase on July 1st.

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So you can see your kind in the middle tier, slightly above the middle, and you'd roughly stay there for 2024 until I first.

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So with our recommendations to adopt the recommended water and sewer rates for this July 1st, next January 1st, and then the January 1st after that, and then of course review the rates and charges, the modelist is property of the city, so Magnet staff can review that and kind of put the actual numbers over the budget, kind of see where we fall, things still stand. You're really only a full rates study may be every 3, 4, 5 years. So with that I'll take any questions.

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So how long have we been working with the next gen and have we worked with any other prior

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two next gen if we work with somebody else?

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I'm just wondering about the comprehensive look of what we've done over how many years.

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So I'm looking a little bit of a history lesson.

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the first few members who would have been recently,

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because we had a five-year plan and we initially

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set up and I think you've been following that and then this is for the last year of that plan,

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probably not so. Okay, so we're going to pause all the time. At the end of 25, okay, all right.

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So I saw that we were, it's said, a new debt, just shy of a 20-milk, in new debt, is that what I saw

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according to the graphs? It's hard to add that the graph size is being able to see it.

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Yeah, I think it was it was back somewhere around

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Yeah, right around the fifth slide when we started looking at the new debt volume. It was one of your earlier slides

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I would just kind of yeah looking at the projects that we have this is the slide

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So okay

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Right

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We get some other projects later, but that primary clarifyer of the primary clarifyer

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applies to all of us and rests some of those issues from that weather.

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But it is.

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And I'm familiar with those here.

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Oh, yeah.

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Any time you're dealing with it, you're not talking,

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it's Eric Scott's prime.

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Right.

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The fifth and sixth, the goal point, the fifth and sixth, water main replacement, that we're

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working in now.

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That's correct.

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Is there anything else on there that we're talking about?

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working on, like, I mean, engaged in or contract award and

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active construction.

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The end rope register purpose is a portion of that is on

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going right now.

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Right now, we're cleaning out the digesters and

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add those other things that we're seeing.

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Friends, second to third one, I have made a place that

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that is in design and saved right now.

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Do you move forward a couple slides again,

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and I think it's one of the first bargrass that had there.

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Yeah, that's one here, but the proposed revenue

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with those rated increases, I know, like 26,

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kind of, maybe help explain kind of what I'm looking at there.

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It almost looks like we're exceeding the cash

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on a capital project in the operating expenses.

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Is that exceed that 180 day operating expenses?

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So, this is just shown year by year revenues and expenses, so any time you see the line higher

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than the bar chart, it's technically a surplus or add your cash balance, any time you

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see the column chart being higher, so like in 24, you can see that green is clearly above

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both of those lines, so that's where we're using cash, so in the next slide we show the cash

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now it's dropping because technically we're using retained earnings instead of raising the rates.

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So those are sharp balls.

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And that's what we said we've got an issue we can do with now.

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In 24, I recognize it everywhere.

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So we got to come in and say, hey, that dark blue line should be at the top of that green,

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the pallet of them, multi, you know, percentage increase.

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So we said, hey, we have some cash balance.

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Let's use some of that, you know, recommendations 180 days.

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So, you know, that way we're not putting it all right here.

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So what is the reasoning behind needing a 10% then in that 20, 26 year, where it looks like we may be ahead of that?

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Well, because we had the shortfall before that, we kind of need a little bit of more cushion to get to 180 days.

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Because it's a lot of really just breaking even 180 by the end of it.

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The goal is about the end of that's 20, 26 to meet that 180.

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We'll work out perfectly. Things are still going to change.

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We'll look at what's happened last year with inflation and supply chain.

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are a little bit hard to believe that it would get to yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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but given today the snapshot this I mean everything's built on assumptions right

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you see I do things like that but that's what it looks like today

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and what you brought up there we've not erased it on account for

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the splicing issues in place as though our water splires and precarious

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So we are now at that point we need to increase our rates to no longer of these access to

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some of those increases from the large funds.

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Which goes back to the original principles of not dipping into the general fund?

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What see the project in Korea?

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We run a contract in the city to lead a rate.

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Is this where does this get us at in that contract in relationships that there increases?

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I'd like to be on 26th of the weekend of the film that we've built in preparation to adjust or accommodate for that.

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Yes.

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Did they initially have COVID-19 already know?

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The city area's largest is one of the members of the Solido Regional Black Commission.

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When that went into place, there was some large capital group of projects that everyone had to undertake.

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And one of the parts of that agreement was that it all raised equalized for a strong

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investor's five years, one point eight.

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So that set what the rate was going to be for the state of the cell, water wholesale.

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So it's going to be at that rate equalized, so that's a known.

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And that's what we had in the adjusted form over it.

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And we just didn't work here the last two minutes, two minutes, two minutes, two minutes.

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moving forward, they have projected what their large capital to the private is going to be.

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Alternative water source, rural water maintenance for you.

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Water towers throughout the distribution system. As might be mentioned, there could be some catastrophic

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and it comes up and nobody anticipated the so-so that it would happen on the other side.

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To all of the members of this mission, send me the reasons.

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So we work with them at S.E.N.S. body team, right?

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They are very best to keep those rates low, keep projects at that service, reasonable.

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But back to the point of the water treatment.

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I don't always start treating the plant.

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We're talking about a water treatment plant.

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That's one of the times it's on the stove.

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What we have.

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So much water is happening.

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We're starting construction.

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And some of that.

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One of you checking the one on some of the street.

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And then there's a horse summit.

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And they're one up there.

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It has a mouth.

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And then there's one of the, in the East Delito too, right?

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Yes, and this review sort of goes on right now.

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They have water towers that are going to be up to about $1,000.

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Yeah, this is maybe a raw watering project is under decided

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right now.

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Replacement.

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Is that a 2025 year contract that we have with severe to the goal?

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Is that free?

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Here you remember?

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We started high 40.

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I think that's free.

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It's a 40 year contract.

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Well, 40 year contract.

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Yes.

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Oh, okay.

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That's the lead.

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I think the latest information we have is they've given rates out through 2027 and so we

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count how the rate increase on just the Toledo rates is like 9.4% and 24.8.6% and 25% and 7.9% and 7.9%

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So, we're going to start getting water to leave out.

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I can't show you about this.

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But our question of water to leave is,

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it's a mental health for solving water disease.

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So, they have their costs.

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They have something to ask.

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That's part of our negotiation now.

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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reasoning by the management.

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Yeah, or it's met a minimum, that we said met a minimum.

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Yeah, it's a free hundred key to key is the minimum usage.

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We have essentially the cost of providing a service.

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The same way is your electric company chart,

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you just pretty though, you've been providing service there.

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So what are you zero, you just 300 gallons,

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you see the key to key, that's the best your charge.

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Yeah, that's pretty common.

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the lot of utilities are actually trying to move more towards more fixed costs because

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you know, it's used to so variable and most of your cost of fixed, we can't go 100% fixed

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because I know we could have a conservative and small customers could hit really hard.

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So you try to have some sort of balance of fixed and then you know variable revenue, we have

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some clients trying to get to 50% fixed, 50% you have about I think it's about 36% it's from

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some fixed revenue and then there are many different variables.

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We're a fresh by memory because I remember this conversation from years ago, there are

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ways that residents can, let's say, their snowboards and their heading down south.

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They do have some ways of stopping service for a certain amount of time, correct?

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And that ends up in the long term, saving them any degree of money.

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I do when we're at the snowboard example, but all of our office let's say, but we get

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to pass the available and say that we're in the out the next three months.

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We shut off the water service and then we are charged.

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Right.

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For how we're on the same.

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That's right.

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Some places don't do that.

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They search our minimum.

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Just say unless you pull a meter.

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And that's what I mean.

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I know I mentioned to you the other day when you can't pass it.

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I know, not a city, it's lead to I think you're raw-free.

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There's either discount or there was something for like low-income residents and things like that.

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I just kind of, I guess my initial question was like, are the

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other, are the rate pairs?

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Are they subsidizing that or do we know that funding is coming from?

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I guess for that, I know the answer to that.

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Whether it's coming from your general fund,

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or subsidize your general fund,

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offset what those costs would be.

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They're not.

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Harry's work,

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explaining to mommy,

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it is that we all have,

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based on what are some of your national leaders

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from the usage that we hold from that.

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What's the leader of those with that?

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You know that?

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I don't have any control of that.

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I understand that I just know in our community there may be, I don't know if there's

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a grant program or something out there or something that, I just available if we have any

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one come family here in the city as well as and we have a lot of people on fixed income as

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well.

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That's kind of my main concern, I mean 21 dollars a month, you know, one figure you give me

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That's 26, may spread that out over the course of the year, I guess it's one that I'm

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kind of concerned about, too, as I was made in fact, people like fixing, I know the state

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has like the homestead, what is it, the homestead exemption act, right, for like the

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tyries.

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It would just be interesting to see if Toledo is in on something, if we are truly part of

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region, and we're taking part in something like that.

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They're getting great money.

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Our work looks.

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I'd rather not.

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Our rate payers not be subsidizing.

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It's legal.

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They're whatever program they had set up.

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But if something that we could participate in, collectively,

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and maybe a seven of the money there is a number of organizations

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that can assist great paper up until it appears.

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You need one of them.

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What is it?

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You need help.

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You need help.

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There's several of their non-profit organizations that are out there that we reached out

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to establish relationships with.

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That led to a resident calls.

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With concern.

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Or issue.

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If in the course of these non-profits they can.

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problem number they like.

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Salvation Army is one of those just several churches that are, and this is one.

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I'm just going to go into the Salvation Army.

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Okay. Okay.

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This is a way for residents and customers to volunteer and pay more and utility payments.

468
00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:44,770
And go into this need and help program that's in the Institute of Salvation Army.

469
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:49,470
So in that case, the customer would contact utility officers.

470
00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:57,470
to lead off the recruitment touch with the salvation army and see what they can do to address the

471
00:29:58,930 --> 00:29:59,970
It's a program that you need to do.

472
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:24,980
It's good to know. So I know with this going up and it almost seemed inevitable. We have to, we're going to have to do. People are going to be happy and this is one of those things. You're just not going to make people happy.

473
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:32,870
cost of things goes up but the minute somebody has to have clean water in a way to get

474
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:39,250
room their sewage you never hear the end of that so but I just I'm trying to be

475
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:43,530
considered of some people as a skit. It may shock some of those may I this isn't

476
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:47,270
going to be a big deal for myself but I know there's people out there that have

477
00:30:47,270 --> 00:30:53,910
potentially having come issues right where that will feel as we engage it to make

478
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:58,010
and have options, right?

479
00:30:58,350 --> 00:31:04,950
That may be something too for maybe our PIO to be ready to get that information out.

480
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:09,970
We want to present this to you at the next public tellies in the Indian

481
00:31:09,970 --> 00:31:16,610
Plan of Legislation, for a tower, or to go get beaten, for a few same presentation.

482
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:21,170
It's for a while, or it's just that it would be for a session of life.

483
00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:27,210
We, you know, legislation is pretty much, but we hope it then will be in the next three

484
00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:34,750
weeks after that. That is May, to raise the name on June, to have this in fact, July 1st.

485
00:31:36,130 --> 00:31:39,290
Thank you for being consider on the timeline. It's just something that

486
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:45,150
give you ample time for people to get informed, contribute if they have any suggestions

487
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:51,630
us to make our decisions and counsel and ask questions. If there's a possibility

488
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:56,990
because this may be beneficial for especially carried out being here, it gets a

489
00:31:56,990 --> 00:32:00,810
slideshow I don't know if we can get that out of it. At least get it sent to her as well

490
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:05,730
and so she can start to proud for her next month's meeting.

491
00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:07,970
All right.

492
00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:13,260
No, it was common, I just didn't know.

493
00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:17,790
We might need an answer.

494
00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:19,350
So, for what's worth

495
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,740
getting good loss of projects around trying to find the most effective.

496
00:32:32,030 --> 00:32:35,350
The things are purchasing what they're kind of the purchase of equipment.

497
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:39,690
If we have the opportunity to make the purchase sooner and sooner and sooner and sooner,

498
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:44,270
that's part of a purchase of the factor, for example, in a bunch of your services.

499
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:48,270
Of course, you use some of our capital projects out.

500
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,490
That's the sort of thing you have to do.

501
00:32:53,550 --> 00:32:56,630
Of course, we'd like to replace this one of these,

502
00:32:56,730 --> 00:32:58,530
a brief, a different orange one.

503
00:32:58,690 --> 00:33:00,590
And we're going to replace the project one right now.

504
00:33:01,850 --> 00:33:03,490
Our goal is that we're going to be there.

505
00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:04,710
And that's just that sustainable.

506
00:33:05,370 --> 00:33:08,610
We're going to use rates with the cost of materials.

507
00:33:10,910 --> 00:33:11,550
It's crazy.

508
00:33:11,770 --> 00:33:12,790
So in your opinion,

509
00:33:14,850 --> 00:33:18,190
does my shifting things around that sounds

510
00:33:18,190 --> 00:33:21,750
like deferring certain projects until later point

511
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:28,330
is that do you feel like that puts us behind to some degree, or maybe puts us, you know,

512
00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:36,310
we're pushing this back, then we might need to come with something bigger in the future.

513
00:33:36,790 --> 00:33:39,890
Do you see any projects that specifically come to mind?

514
00:33:40,030 --> 00:33:42,550
Well, there's a half key in the wants.

515
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:50,010
The want to go on the water side, the want to, for example, these sole orange cast

516
00:33:50,010 --> 00:33:53,190
out of supply throughout the city.

517
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:58,010
When it comes to guided fighters and you see it once in a pressure, it makes it a

518
00:33:58,010 --> 00:33:58,570
more difficult.

519
00:33:58,910 --> 00:34:02,650
You have a smaller type of person A, which you can see, plus a type of person for the group.

520
00:34:02,770 --> 00:34:07,150
Those who are want to, the have to, those who come in not the pipe thing.

521
00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:08,710
that we're in the whole bit later.

522
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:13,110
That's from on R, E, F, O, R, E, E, E, E, E, E, E.

523
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:15,050
You don't know what that's like to be.

524
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:17,810
And then it's going to be a big thing that I don't know.

525
00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:22,450
Or they are just scheduled established in June of 2026.

526
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:23,510
That's right, Seth.

527
00:34:24,370 --> 00:34:26,190
On the Santerasite, Heart of Hearts of Class,

528
00:34:26,290 --> 00:34:27,130
they're just your clunkers.

529
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,500
So those, that, see what I was saying,

530
00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:32,820
remember, are the happy projects?

531
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,320
Right.

532
00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:39,270
I know we kind of just briefly mentioned them

533
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:42,870
past my looking at potential storm.

534
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,240
You tell me, okay, and I know I didn't see that in here.

535
00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:56,880
We're not taking, I guess timeline one might be, maybe get a good look at that or is that?

536
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080
And that's part of our question of phase.

537
00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:01,720
We're going to have a presentation.

538
00:35:02,380 --> 00:35:06,320
We'll be for that in the May.

539
00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:09,510
We have

540
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640
progress that we deal with with

541
00:35:23,140 --> 00:35:23,940
these projects.

542
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:25,980
What that

543
00:35:29,790 --> 00:35:29,950
is.

544
00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:31,050
It's a service that I'll pay it with.

545
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:33,270
That's the one to do that.

546
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:35,210
Because these projects that we can't write here,

547
00:35:35,310 --> 00:35:37,870
these are all water, distribution, and sensory

548
00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:38,870
superclutch environments.

549
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:46,010
You don't really really want to take sanitary sewer bonds in a 5-in-4 state enough of the

550
00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:46,430
pitch.

551
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:49,590
That those are sewer bonds.

552
00:35:49,590 --> 00:35:49,810
That those are sewer bonds.

553
00:35:50,010 --> 00:35:50,490
That's what's really cool.

554
00:35:50,570 --> 00:35:51,830
So sanitary sewer collection funds.

555
00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:55,990
We do have a lot of stormwater issues.

556
00:35:55,990 --> 00:36:00,810
to take away on the tree streets south of the south

557
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:31,060
of the

558
00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:35,940
have to, is the Naval Academy a little bit better than me. I love your sake, tremendous.

559
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:37,060
Yeah.

560
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:39,740
We have our own store artists who can be a title for me.

561
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:40,280
Oh, yeah.

562
00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:41,480
That's in the right downtown.

563
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:42,560
Not in the terrain.

564
00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:49,680
It's still a great set.

565
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,280
Thank you.

566
00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:58,210
All right, we have a item that was in our packet, not on the agenda.

567
00:36:59,070 --> 00:37:00,450
I make sure we include that today.

568
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,400
Yes,

569
00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:18,600
it's a resolution, a maning resolution 107, 2022, and authorizing it, a change order to the agreement with

570
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,980
Senator or Central LLC for House Island Management Services and declaring emergency to do so.

571
00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:28,240
What's going on right now is a ball reading through it.

572
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,780
Whereas it is necessary for the city of Paris.

573
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:59,140
To properly dispose of bio-solid sludge at the wastewater treatment plant throughout the course of the year, and to maintain the ability to effectively operate the plant, whereas December 20th of 2022, the City of Parisburg Pass Resolution 107-2022 authorizing the mayor and the director of finance to enter into a three-year agreement with Cinegrot for a mouth-seller management and services at the wastewater plant, and due to, and whereas due to digest or maintenance, the city has need to update the agreement with Cinegrot.

574
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,660
allow for tipping fees at landfill to be passed through the service provider to the city

575
00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:12,940
of Parisburg at a direct plus 5% markup.

576
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,160
So what is going on is right now we're cleaning up our digesters.

577
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,160
That's a plant is a anaerobic digestion plan and part of the maintenance that should be

578
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,300
done on dollars just as you clean them out periodically.

579
00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:32,180
these registers have been cleaned out quite some time. So the process of cleaning these out

580
00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:39,000
are our large secondary digestor, digester number two, digester number one, had

581
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,420
falling issues and had to be taken out of operation. So as we were cleaning out these

582
00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:47,800
digestors, this material would be landfilled anyway. This is nothing you would spread on

583
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:54,260
the field of farm fields. So because we don't have the ability for the digestion process,

584
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,280
the

585
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:07,640
Press our raw sledge, grab your thick and sledge, and send that to the landfill while the other stuff that was being landfilled anyway.

586
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:18,360
Our contract did not allow for a tipping fee to be passed through from the hauler to us.

587
00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:19,900
So that's what this amendment is for.

588
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:23,400
So we had the cost of the trucking to get the material there.

589
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:32,220
We have an escalator for the year, but again, no mechanism for payment of that tipping fee.

590
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,620
What that tipping fee will be depends on the landfill, that their cost change we have no

591
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:37,520
control over that.

592
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:41,320
But it is something that we are in any way, right now it's part of the Nitrocleaning Project.

593
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:48,140
We're just adding this additional raw into the mix.

594
00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:58,140
Do we understand how the landfill ends up, do they annually, re-figure a sort of percentage

595
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:05,820
consistently or inconsistently do we have any idea that could be coming back even next year

596
00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:07,000
that it ended up changing?

597
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,520
They do increase.

598
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,520
By what their mechanism is for you to talk to the end of the increase.

599
00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:14,600
I do that.

600
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:14,880
Not sure.

601
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:23,200
They do tend to limit the amount of loads that they'll take, so that's a factor in this as well.

602
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:32,840
We can, for example, perhaps we can only take two loads per day to the landfill and then we're strapped and then we just have to wait.

603
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,260
So that's more of a waiting game, but they're not going to adjust their rates.

604
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,520
We're involved with a bottle on a bottle basis.

605
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,180
Okay. I think that's the question.

606
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,040
The question is on that.

607
00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:50,520
Leader.

608
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,380
Move that forward to zero.

609
00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:54,000
Here.

610
00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:57,120
Yeah.

611
00:40:57,340 --> 00:40:58,300
We're going to.

612
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:59,720
Compensation.

613
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:00,760
Notification.

614
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:01,660
All right.

615
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,680
This is a resolution.

616
00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:09,700
Resolution authorizing and directing the mayor and director finance to enter into an agreement

617
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,340
with Jones and Henry Limited for sanitary sewer pump station assessment services

618
00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:19,600
And it costs not to exceed $100,000, and we're going to see to do so, whereas the city

619
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,820
appears we're seeking to form assessment of the city sanitary sewer pump stations, and

620
00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:30,760
whereas the city's engineer requested and received pre-qualification statements from cell

621
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,820
engineering firms for such work, Johnson Henry, submitted pre-qualification statement for

622
00:41:34,820 --> 00:41:40,320
the project, and has an necessary personnel equipment expertise and experience to inspect

623
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:48,200
And by with the city's sanitary sewer pump stations, total cost of the project is expected to be $100,000.

624
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,700
And the reason for this, we're doing this project, is our pump stations throughout the city.

625
00:41:56,860 --> 00:42:01,460
We have 11 pump stations right now. We're going to be eliminating one-out by Brookhaven shortly.

626
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:08,320
These pump stations are all in the neighborhood of 20 years old.

627
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,580
That's the life of these pump stations that are mechanical devices.

628
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:18,480
They wear out, but to what degree they're worn out, mechanically, electrically, we don't

629
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,060
do not know.

630
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:22,040
And that's what Jones and Henry Lee is going to help us figure out.

631
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,540
Each of these pump stations is going to require some kind of a grade, whether it's brand new

632
00:42:26,540 --> 00:42:28,900
pumps, maybe even brand new electrical systems.

633
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,520
We don't know what that is, and that's what they're going to help us return.

634
00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:43,810
We have a continuing engineering services agreement with Jones and Henry, this would be task

635
00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:46,170
Number three, with that agreement.

636
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,940
In this, is there any idea how long it will take?

637
00:43:07,950 --> 00:43:09,030
Or for the evaluation?

638
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:13,150
Complete before the end of this year would be our goal.

639
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:17,270
We could not do any improvements.

640
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:19,430
We don't have the budgeted for this year.

641
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:24,630
Those who once they give this evaluation completed to us,

642
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:27,890
we would incorporate those next year's cost.

643
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:30,210
Some will be minor, some might be major,

644
00:43:30,210 --> 00:43:33,630
a complete redo of some of our pulsations might be in order.

645
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:37,730
And this is something that was planned for the result of the budget.

646
00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:40,190
This project, yes.

647
00:43:42,810 --> 00:43:45,370
The actual cost for a placement, so that's not there.

648
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:47,170
That's something we do again in 2020.

649
00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:54,770
Do they give, I would assume that they would any kind of an evaluation as to sense of urgency,

650
00:43:55,390 --> 00:44:00,190
depending on what they see hierarchy of needs to be addressed with them.

651
00:44:00,190 --> 00:44:03,850
next year to your so forth. Is that a part of their analysis?

652
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:08,950
It would be. Our crews are doing a tremendous job of maintaining these, but there's

653
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:14,450
only so much maintenance that can continue. What you don't want to end up with is

654
00:44:14,450 --> 00:44:18,930
run on one pump. Most of our stations are do what we call do-plats or two pumps, station

655
00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:26,350
somewhere three, but if you're down to one pump, you are really taking a gamble. If that fails,

656
00:44:26,350 --> 00:44:34,190
you end up with basement backups, but our cruise has done a tremendous job of maintaining

657
00:44:34,190 --> 00:44:43,090
the wet wells, the pulsations themselves, but at some point they are going to require some additional

658
00:44:43,090 --> 00:44:44,710
maintenance outside of what we do already,

659
00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:51,950
so they will give us a priority list of what our

660
00:44:53,310 --> 00:44:54,550
We're going to work as pump stations.

661
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:59,970
Coupled with this is it wills into what kind of...

662
00:45:03,380 --> 00:45:12,260
That's when we get a rain storm, and that rain water is getting the centre, so are we just not supposed to, causing those pumps to run longer, faster, harder than they would normally.

663
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,360
As we are able to remove that rain water, slowly, that is less than impact on those stations.

664
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:28,030
That's the long, long-range approach that we want to look at with this project too.

665
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:34,500
And if you're still wants to reclaim black swap.

666
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,360
That can't.

667
00:45:39,850 --> 00:45:41,810
I don't think I have any other questions on that.

668
00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:43,470
I'm just going to mention one thing.

669
00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:44,370
I feel like it's a question.

670
00:45:45,550 --> 00:45:47,670
I don't just probably isn't really for you.

671
00:45:47,810 --> 00:45:48,490
I haven't figured it out.

672
00:45:48,930 --> 00:45:52,170
I just feel like all the committee members.

673
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:54,190
We tend to, that's just this committee.

674
00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:58,390
But every council member seemed to always ask if it was budget.

675
00:45:58,910 --> 00:46:01,290
I had a my thought at one point in time when we had the legislative summaries.

676
00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:07,910
summaries that had the budget line item in there, or where was that item? Okay. I don't know

677
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:13,110
just something that maybe I'm probably always going to ask a question. I will include that

678
00:46:13,110 --> 00:46:19,430
future. If just, I'm just about for your sake say some time. Because I know you talked to Amber

679
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:26,290
who both cases or any other firmly to talk to. Remember running through there typically and it just

680
00:46:26,290 --> 00:46:32,410
I also, I think, understand to a case or, like, you might have been here riding kind of a dress

681
00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:34,870
that we're a couple of things that were changed and have been changed.

682
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:36,950
I think you're just helps us.

683
00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:38,230
We're kind of probably going to get you on.

684
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:41,630
Okay. Well, I don't feel that important.

685
00:46:42,510 --> 00:46:44,570
Thank you. Appreciate it.

686
00:46:44,970 --> 00:46:45,950
I don't have any other questions.

687
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:46,630
Thank you.

688
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:46,990
No.

689
00:46:48,670 --> 00:46:50,190
So I moved forward to zero.

690
00:46:52,030 --> 00:46:52,230
Okay.

691
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:58,710
This was at just to keep you informed of the personal committee, it was presented that we

692
00:46:58,710 --> 00:47:05,170
were requesting two new positions as the title as utility supervisors.

693
00:47:06,190 --> 00:47:10,810
These two positions that will be working underneath our field operation superintendent, Brian

694
00:47:10,810 --> 00:47:11,330
Holker.

695
00:47:12,290 --> 00:47:19,370
The city of Parisburg is growing since the 1950s, every decade has grown over 20% and there's

696
00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:20,950
no sign that it's going to slow down.

697
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:24,510
So, as the city grows, it's system, it's infrastructure grows.

698
00:47:25,130 --> 00:47:30,450
And our ability to maintain that and stay on top of that system, and with every year

699
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:33,310
that system is aging, is being taxed.

700
00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:39,930
I'll EPA, rightly so, is telling us that we need, and every other system, that you need

701
00:47:42,090 --> 00:47:47,510
to document how you're maintaining your system, and that's a lot of work, and that's more

702
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:54,190
than just one single individual can do, and that's part of what these two individuals

703
00:47:54,190 --> 00:48:00,250
would be doing right home or helping that documentation of the day-to-day maintenance

704
00:48:00,250 --> 00:48:03,470
of the system and inspection of the system.

705
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:08,030
As the city grows, it requires new taps.

706
00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:11,350
We have, as was mentioned, about 1% growth per year.

707
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:16,710
What that translates to is between 110, 120 new taps per year.

708
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:24,050
Those tats require a crew of four, sometimes five individuals depending on the complexity of the tap.

709
00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:31,950
And that scheduling requires contacting highly utility's protection agency,

710
00:48:32,250 --> 00:48:34,290
according with developers, coordinate with contractors.

711
00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:36,390
That's a lot to have on one person.

712
00:48:36,850 --> 00:48:39,790
These individuals will help Ryan with that.

713
00:48:40,370 --> 00:48:42,990
So that's on the supply side, on the collection side.

714
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:48,950
that each one of those new facilities has, or new houses, has a sanitary ladder, all

715
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:52,290
of the things to be inspired to make sure that it's being constructed to city spec.

716
00:48:52,990 --> 00:48:58,510
Prior to time as well, coordination, also following up on, with construction with maintenance,

717
00:48:58,670 --> 00:49:00,750
bonding, coordination with the developers on that.

718
00:49:00,950 --> 00:49:05,170
That's a lot for one person to do, and that's just for talking about new growth.

719
00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:10,810
As I mentioned, the city is aging, therefore, the infrastructure is aging, and this means

720
00:49:10,810 --> 00:49:17,110
more repairs are required. As we get out into the system and start doing the inspections that we are required to do, we're going to find out.

721
00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:24,890
While we have a lot of degrading mammals that are falling apart, that are missing, that are buried,

722
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:31,030
that are required to work in effort to locate those and bring them up to grade or bring them up to stuff,

723
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:36,770
according to what these utility supervisors would be doing, cleaning the sewers as well.

724
00:49:37,070 --> 00:49:39,990
That is requirement to have your sewers cleaned.

725
00:49:40,670 --> 00:49:43,250
The goal is to have about 20% of the clean per year.

726
00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:48,970
Having a crew dedicated every day would be ideal if we could do that.

727
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:52,830
You need somebody managing that documenting all that cleanness in the place.

728
00:49:55,290 --> 00:50:04,870
And then also, I think it's, if we look at succession planning, it's important to give

729
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:09,930
our staff the idea that there's a ability for upward growth in their careers with the

730
00:50:09,930 --> 00:50:14,790
city. You can come in in one department and if you get the certifications and put in the

731
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:22,810
time, you can work your way up into one of these supervisor positions right now. We have about

732
00:50:22,810 --> 00:50:27,830
This would allow them to move up, as I mentioned, Brian Homer was in charge of us.

733
00:50:28,270 --> 00:50:34,310
He is an outstanding individual problem, the best hires I've ever done, but he's at the tail of his career.

734
00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:38,970
So we need to plan for that, and it's a few years out of place a lot longer.

735
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:49,470
But, you know, he earned his time off, so we have to make sure that we're not going to fall off a cliff when he decides to hang it up.

736
00:50:49,470 --> 00:50:59,350
So, these two positions would be training everything as well, and they themselves would be training new folks that come into the utility group.

737
00:50:59,870 --> 00:51:01,450
So, I think it's important.

738
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:10,450
And that aspect to help give our current employees that an idea that there is a path for growth within the city.

739
00:51:11,110 --> 00:51:18,290
But he's in addition to doing, I thought we had, was there two supervisors that I don't

740
00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:19,910
know if we formally approved that?

741
00:51:20,330 --> 00:51:24,990
This is still the same tour that we just recently had, following in the past six months

742
00:51:24,990 --> 00:51:31,030
we either added or talked about it, we might have talked about it, so this is the official

743
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:37,430
presentation of that, was that public, excuse me, at personnel last night for the formal,

744
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:39,470
That was going to be a very nice question too.

745
00:51:39,830 --> 00:51:40,110
Personnels.

746
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:44,170
Yeah.

747
00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:45,590
Well, I knew it was coming.

748
00:51:45,710 --> 00:51:51,630
I think one of the things I've mentioned, and it sounds like they're going to be not part of the bargaining unit.

749
00:51:51,970 --> 00:51:52,550
That's correct.

750
00:51:53,410 --> 00:51:53,850
Individuals.

751
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:55,010
They're super buzzers.

752
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:55,730
Yeah.

753
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:58,930
So, we're having bargaining unit.

754
00:51:58,990 --> 00:52:00,250
Super buzzing out of the bargaining unit.

755
00:52:01,410 --> 00:52:02,790
That's maybe not sub.

756
00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:04,450
But that's.

757
00:52:05,810 --> 00:52:07,610
But on some industries, you do have,

758
00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:15,110
You do have the same working format and working, whether technically management, super-visory

759
00:52:15,110 --> 00:52:19,930
manager, that's the support of the bargaining unit, that's it to that is what things

760
00:52:19,930 --> 00:52:25,310
do slow down if they make a cut and somebody has some cool tools on her to help out her

761
00:52:25,310 --> 00:52:29,850
see his breath in, I just, some for consideration of the future of that.

762
00:52:30,370 --> 00:52:45,970
I don't know how their CDAs are set up with your hourly employees, but just something to consider that, you know, that supervisor was able to also be, they're part of the bargaining unit and can perform some of the duties, the department ever needs it.

763
00:52:46,350 --> 00:52:49,890
That was actually how we originally were looking at this.

764
00:52:49,890 --> 00:52:57,030
as we got into a lot of the details and what their compensation would be involved into being in a marketing

765
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:57,610
position.

766
00:52:58,570 --> 00:53:08,930
It would be in that pay-man-the-day of it, it would be eligible for overtime and, again,

767
00:53:10,110 --> 00:53:17,150
given the opportunity to high-quality staff, have them give them the chance to move up

768
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:17,790
in their careers.

769
00:53:17,790 --> 00:53:26,530
And just to clarify because I think I'm hearing you correct, but I want to make sure so you're talking about not only the positions, but also people.

770
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:29,910
So in other words, if you have to, you know, we're all, you have two supervisors.

771
00:53:30,730 --> 00:53:33,770
You would say we're creating two more supervisors positions.

772
00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:36,030
And now we're going to 17 or all personnel.

773
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:39,850
So in other words, it would be an additional to interact to their payroll.

774
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:41,410
Okay.

775
00:53:41,850 --> 00:53:46,650
I just wanted to make sure it just wasn't still within, let's say, 15 and shifting.

776
00:53:46,650 --> 00:53:49,950
Okay, I just wanted to make sure we're planning to grow on the market.

777
00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:50,350
Correct.

778
00:53:50,810 --> 00:53:57,410
Yes, I would prefer to grow it from within and bring some younger staff or less experienced

779
00:53:57,410 --> 00:54:01,310
staff in and train them up and promote them from within.

780
00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:05,570
If that happens, that's great if it doesn't, well, we'll make do and hopefully get some good

781
00:54:05,570 --> 00:54:05,890
candidates.

782
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,280
Thank you.

783
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,460
Thank you.

784
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:11,200
Thank you.

785
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:11,360
Thank you.

786
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,500
Thank you.

787
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:18,140
which is brought to us to just her, keep you in this boat here.

788
00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:21,180
Thank you.

789
00:54:21,260 --> 00:54:24,100
We're on to the update on the DFF boat.

790
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,940
All right.

791
00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:28,850
Go through this real quick.

792
00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:36,190
This is the project that's going to be doing a physical survey

793
00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:39,410
of our sanitary sewer system and what our needs are.

794
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:50,860
It is a part of the DFFO, that's the director's final findings in orders, and we have requested

795
00:54:50,860 --> 00:54:59,440
from our case a proposal to complete tasks, and what we will have, from this, is in June

796
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,300
of 2025.

797
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,880
We have the HSS completed, the HSS involved with this are the actual project management,

798
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,040
we have already, the city has certainly

799
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,520
doesn't have the very best of records,

800
00:55:13,180 --> 00:55:15,100
but we will, with their help,

801
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,480
be put in compiling a better catalog of our records.

802
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,700
And both this will be smoke testing,

803
00:55:22,060 --> 00:55:23,700
where we'll be pumping smoke into the sewers,

804
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,460
to find out where we have cracks,

805
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,840
leaks, where clean water's getting,

806
00:55:27,020 --> 00:55:29,600
where smoke comes out, that's where clean water gets in.

807
00:55:30,980 --> 00:55:34,180
We will be coupling with this output

808
00:55:34,180 --> 00:55:42,320
from the flow model that we have and find areas where we do know that we have an intense or higher

809
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:49,300
level of inflow infiltration coming in in a particular sewer shed. We'll get down to a more

810
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:55,420
granular level and find out where exactly within that particular sewer shed the clean water is

811
00:55:55,420 --> 00:56:04,400
in. And then additional investigations is needed. That would be CCTV work. Basement to Household

812
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,660
Inspections where we're looking to see if there are some pumps that are green-footed

813
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:15,000
cows that are connected to the sanitary sewers. Doing dye testing at various points in our

814
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:26,100
system, and then doing walks along, those areas where that are overgrown in our system

815
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:31,320
right now, there could be parts of the system, where trees have grown up over the years,

816
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,080
over 30, 40, 50 years, where mammals are buried and we're not sure of the condition, so

817
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:45,320
are going to help us get an evaluation of the physical condition of those of that infrastructure.

818
00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:54,760
So that is projected to start this spring and be wrapped up by June of next year.

819
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:05,220
That will then pick off our SSO elimination plan, and that is the plan that will be due

820
00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:10,820
in June of 26 that will set our projects,

821
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:13,380
scopes for the next, again, 15 or 20 years.

822
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,740
Those are going to be the big ticket items.

823
00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:17,080
And we have some idea of what those are going to be,

824
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,340
but we don't want to steer it that way.

825
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,740
Just shut.

826
00:57:24,340 --> 00:57:25,880
And that's the update for that.

827
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,060
That's something we'll actually add a bit for our department,

828
00:57:29,260 --> 00:57:29,880
we're probably utilities.

829
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:37,120
that this is a big step towards the SSS population.

830
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,120
Hopefully we've got some good freeings at the flow moderators here recently.

831
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:49,300
For example, working on the final components of that, the right weather flow.

832
00:57:49,820 --> 00:57:51,100
They have some interesting data.

833
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:55,660
Whenever you're doing these models, and I'm not a modeling expert,

834
00:57:56,460 --> 00:58:02,500
But whenever you're doing these, when models, when you're getting flow model or actual flow

835
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:09,440
data that doesn't drive with what your model predicts, that tells you a lot of you

836
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:17,220
to focus in them, because something's happening, that is an in-the-plans that isn't predicted

837
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:21,340
mathematically, so there's something physically that's going on, and that might be there's

838
00:58:21,340 --> 00:58:27,900
a catch base and that's connected to or there is a stream getting into the sewer that

839
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:28,840
reaches a certain level.

840
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,560
So these are the things that they're working through right now.

841
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,920
And what I mentioned behind intensity areas, those are the areas that they'll be identifying

842
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,940
as well.

843
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,140
We're up in the model.

844
00:58:41,740 --> 00:58:44,040
We're on to the excavation verification.

845
00:58:48,220 --> 00:58:48,820
Yes.

846
00:58:48,820 --> 00:59:14,080
This is a resolution ratifying certain work performed by a poll excavating and authorizing payment in the amount not to exceed 26,757 dollars and 50 cents into clearing emergency to do so on February 16th of 2024, the public utilities department had a break in a 24 inch warming and rental down state route 25.

847
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,340
I slated the leak, utilities personnel determine that the

848
00:59:17,340 --> 00:59:20,000
excavation required was beyond the city's internal capabilities.

849
00:59:20,740 --> 00:59:25,500
Our excavators can only dig down so deep to dig down that depth you also need to

850
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:28,140
shore up the excavation safely.

851
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,720
We don't have the equipment to do that.

852
00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:32,620
So we had to call in on how excavation to help us out.

853
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,940
They've helped us out for similar projects or problems in the past that are beyond our staff's

854
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:40,360
capability, either from experience standpoint or equipment standpoint.

855
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,560
So what we had here was a blowout on a 24-inch main.

856
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,740
That's a for the city of Periserord.

857
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,940
That's about as big as it gets.

858
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:52,820
And being able to control that and get that water.

859
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,140
Again, under control.

860
00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:57,180
That's vitally important.

861
00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:58,820
So how stepped in.

862
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,200
The cost was beyond what we can just do without city council approval. So that's essentially what this resolution is for this form, for approval of payment.

863
01:00:12,020 --> 01:00:25,200
What this does show, and as we've got into our system, we found that a lot of large diameter mains constructed in the early 90s are having similar problems.

864
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:34,340
I don't know why, but we've had failure on a 60-inch main in town here and another 24-inch

865
01:00:34,340 --> 01:00:37,040
that feeds the ocean water tower.

866
01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:45,020
So we've had looking at what kind of commonality, what these planes have in common, so

867
01:00:45,020 --> 01:00:54,580
of our age and size, so maybe it's a coincidence, it does seem like there's something there.

868
01:00:54,580 --> 01:01:00,460
So, we're looking at that closer and we think that we have some issues where we are losing

869
01:01:00,460 --> 01:01:00,860
water.

870
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,240
This is water that we've already paid for.

871
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:12,220
When we've done some in town, leak detection, we've found quite a few, around 10 leaks

872
01:01:12,220 --> 01:01:13,380
and repaired so far.

873
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,840
I just didn't back the envelope calculations and so far, that's say the city, about $110,000.

874
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,360
And why are the costs that were literally going down the drain?

875
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,720
So that equipment is ready for itself.

876
01:01:25,980 --> 01:01:29,000
It helped locate one of these leaks on a larger main.

877
01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:36,780
But if it's there, I think that we have an opportunity for larger problems or additional

878
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,600
problems that we have in identified yet.

879
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,460
These are 10, these send to be deeper in large trenches when you do have a leak that appears

880
01:01:43,460 --> 01:01:45,540
and it doesn't pertake up to the top.

881
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:50,180
It gets away into the gravel, the trench, and you really don't see it.

882
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:57,420
So, uh, but back to this, I'll ask a nation to help us out and we're looking for a city

883
01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:58,240
of the same, right?

884
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:02,320
The younger, the younger, the younger, the younger, the more questions on that, get them

885
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,960
paid.

886
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,680
The neither were with that forward to, uh, to zero.

887
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:12,160
And at the end of the time, I could wrap it up, uh, wanted to give you a project update

888
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,740
that we can mount that to next time.

889
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:19,380
We do have, uh, just in general, a water, a main project being constructed on the alleyways

890
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:21,320
between 5th and 6th Street right now.

891
01:02:21,580 --> 01:02:23,220
There's a northern section in the south of section.

892
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:35,500
We have had some residents or put out, really, because of this,

893
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:38,060
because while this is being constructed in the other ways,

894
01:02:38,180 --> 01:02:45,220
they're having for a while to bring their garbage to the front

895
01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:48,360
of the street and having access to the garage as difficult.

896
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:54,700
So it's a change, it's temporary, but because these water rains are in the alleyway, it's really the only way we can do it.

897
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,100
We went with a different construction method to help accelerate the construction process.

898
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,840
It was planned in November, right now we're hoping for the end of July.

899
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:09,140
There's issues that have cropped up doing what we're doing.

900
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,700
We're doing a trenches method for significant portion of it.

901
01:03:12,860 --> 01:03:17,740
So you're kind of across your fingers as you're going through, but we have a very good

902
01:03:17,740 --> 01:03:25,960
directional trigger working for us on the project and so far there've been issues but nothing

903
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:31,020
catastrophic thank goodness. How can we've been doing as I know we've had some

904
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:38,180
ask for some of the residents. I don't know if we're failing to communicate or if we

905
01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:41,960
you do a better job or if it's a contractor job and communicating just some of the

906
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,920
access. Well, when you mention garbage but also their access to their garages and

907
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:52,240
to that. Just some, I know those things are always tough, coordination and stuff, but just

908
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,980
information for them for planning and things like that.

909
01:03:54,980 --> 01:04:01,460
Sure. Right. Yeah. And I feel folks, I mean, any kind of disruptions bad. And again,

910
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:07,500
in some cases, there's nothing we could do. In this case, what we did was we mail, we had a complete

911
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:11,780
roster of everyone that's going to be affected. We mail letters to everybody on that roster,

912
01:04:11,780 --> 01:04:17,940
verified that people had called in with complaints that they did receive a letter.

913
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:25,040
The contractor is also hanging door hangers on head of schedule, but there's always an opportunity to approve.

914
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,040
And that's one of the tough things to figure out.

915
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,820
How do you do this?

916
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,960
Because a letter comes in 95% of what we receive is junk mail.

917
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,240
So very often people just want to pay attention to it.

918
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,780
I do a hangers in your door.

919
01:04:37,780 --> 01:04:42,300
Or if you even use your front door, it's blown off, it's blown off, right.

920
01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:47,860
Some people don't use, read the newspaper, some people don't use social media.

921
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:50,940
We have it listed on the city's website, some people don't even know that that's something

922
01:04:50,940 --> 01:04:51,380
that's available.

923
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,460
So it is a tough amount to crack and we're trying.

924
01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:02,140
One thing that we've been kicking around is, an opt-in, when a resident, a new resident

925
01:05:02,140 --> 01:05:07,180
comes into signing for service, would you like to receive updates for what's going

926
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,240
Now, if you've ever done one of those, you get blasted with everything and pretty soon

927
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:17,420
you're, it's actually a junk mail to you, but just one other way we might figure this out.

928
01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:24,120
I think, you know, Becky, you'd kind of mention something to the other day.

929
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:26,980
Is there anything else to linger in out there that we might be able to address?

930
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:28,940
No, I think that's the answer.

931
01:05:29,380 --> 01:05:29,480
Okay.

932
01:05:29,940 --> 01:05:31,360
There was a number of questions.

933
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:32,860
I don't have a clock.

934
01:05:36,340 --> 01:05:38,280
So there was a number of questions on the clock.

935
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:44,360
So I was trying to get information to the press.

936
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,120
Well, I think that we have to fit into people closely

937
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,160
all of the people who have been gathered right away on that.

938
01:06:02,260 --> 01:06:05,540
This will think again, as I said, that's not the boring thing.

939
01:06:10,180 --> 01:06:12,300
So I call them to just point out that

940
01:06:14,310 --> 01:06:15,130
the ground

941
01:06:15,130 --> 01:06:18,890
or the poles, the poles that are posted at the end,

942
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:22,870
and they have no idea what this project is or how to do it.

943
01:06:23,470 --> 01:06:24,930
Because that's how to write it.

944
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:26,710
It's a

945
01:06:29,020 --> 01:06:31,460
project that you can get into, and it's a project that you can do this here.

946
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,360
It's a layer of the depth.

947
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,100
What's interesting.

948
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:44,960
Yes.

949
01:06:45,140 --> 01:06:45,580
Well, right.

950
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,020
It's for the beginning of the issue.

951
01:06:50,540 --> 01:06:51,160
I think that's right.

952
01:06:56,580 --> 01:06:57,860
Any way they get it all up.

953
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:58,320
Right.

954
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:58,780
Right.

955
01:06:59,240 --> 01:06:59,400
Right.

956
01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,580
Right.

957
01:06:59,580 --> 01:07:00,460
So you said it's right.

958
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,080
Yeah.

959
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,080
The difference there is the open method that we had originally planned.

960
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:17,400
Right.

961
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,560
Whatever would it take them to the back end of member.

962
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:20,920
Right.

963
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,840
By using the Trenchless method, Trenchless.

964
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,340
really, really short enough at three months, four months.

965
01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:29,260
Yeah.

966
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:46,110
Thank you.

967
01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:52,630
Thank you for bringing that up. That's another project that we have going on right now.

968
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:56,210
So we can hear his bird and show the bird eye.

969
01:07:56,610 --> 01:08:00,670
This is a bit out of five or four hundred and seventy eight homes

970
01:08:00,670 --> 01:08:02,950
that just based on the age and which they're constructed.

971
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:05,530
Because that's in the criteria we really have.

972
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:07,430
That they may have lead services.

973
01:08:09,290 --> 01:08:11,370
And there's an additional, approximately 400,

974
01:08:11,590 --> 01:08:12,750
they're not going to be part of that program.

975
01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:16,030
We'll be part of the program we're at at a five.

976
01:08:16,730 --> 01:08:19,250
What kind of a terror is on the service side,

977
01:08:19,330 --> 01:08:21,050
what is on the home or side?

978
01:08:21,050 --> 01:08:26,810
And this is the start of a project that's going to tell October of 2037.

979
01:08:28,010 --> 01:08:30,810
And the reason I know that is because I'm retiring October.

980
01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:32,090
It's 2037.

981
01:08:33,330 --> 01:08:34,710
It's always, yeah.

982
01:08:36,370 --> 01:08:38,490
But yes, that's another project that's going on.

983
01:08:39,370 --> 01:08:40,470
It's going to be disruption.

984
01:08:41,070 --> 01:08:48,710
The way that they would be identifying the material is hydro-excalating on either side of the curve,

985
01:08:48,710 --> 01:08:53,210
stuff, that's the shut-up, and I'll have some cases that's in law, and in other cases,

986
01:08:53,450 --> 01:08:57,610
it's in the case. So some go quicker, some go slower, some go prior to a lot of risk

987
01:08:57,610 --> 01:09:04,170
from others. And then we also look at, it's involved in homeowners, what kind of materials

988
01:09:04,170 --> 01:09:08,050
coming inside your house. So there's going to be actually some involvement there. That's

989
01:09:08,050 --> 01:09:11,950
not going to be up here, I don't know if you're going to be able to divide this into three

990
01:09:16,030 --> 01:09:21,470
You know, I was curious, you know, I was curious, you know, I was curious, you know, I was just very next to your club.

991
01:09:22,450 --> 01:09:27,290
And it was me, you know, that's what it was, you did not write, but it's part of it.

992
01:09:27,750 --> 01:09:28,370
Property point.

993
01:09:28,570 --> 01:09:29,110
But it's, yeah.

994
01:09:29,470 --> 01:09:32,470
So if that's case, you just try to put that in the DSM into it.

995
01:09:32,690 --> 01:09:35,430
But he thinks that that's possible without a basis.

996
01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:38,710
If we're supposed to do it, we find out what we need to do it.

997
01:09:38,950 --> 01:09:42,130
So it doesn't mean I think it's a thing to press.

998
01:09:42,130 --> 01:09:44,950
So I think it's hard to do that to me.

999
01:09:45,490 --> 01:09:46,310
It's a nice thing, right?

1000
01:09:46,510 --> 01:09:47,990
It's not much much of a goal.

1001
01:09:48,910 --> 01:09:50,350
So thank you, Mr. Sam.

1002
01:09:52,210 --> 01:09:57,890
And I think a title for the big thing on this thing.

1003
01:09:58,730 --> 01:09:59,990
But when I asked him about that,

1004
01:10:00,170 --> 01:10:01,410
I really didn't have it.

1005
01:10:01,410 --> 01:10:03,790
He asked me to stop, so I can start to work on this.

1006
01:10:04,030 --> 01:10:05,350
I didn't have it.

1007
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:05,370
I didn't have it.

1008
01:10:05,690 --> 01:10:05,810
I didn't have it.

1009
01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:07,050
Or I didn't have it.

1010
01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:08,310
There are a bunch of stuff.

1011
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:10,390
And I just wanted to excuse him, kind of like,

1012
01:10:11,070 --> 01:10:14,730
You did forward Kevin's personal self-content.

1013
01:10:15,130 --> 01:10:16,850
I should have given that I'm quite free.

1014
01:10:17,190 --> 01:10:17,790
I don't mind what I'm writing.

1015
01:10:18,110 --> 01:10:22,250
I just don't give it back.

1016
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:23,950
I'm kidding.

1017
01:10:25,670 --> 01:10:27,390
But thank you for your work.

1018
01:10:30,330 --> 01:10:31,050
Thank you for your work.

1019
01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:32,130
Thank you for your work.

1020
01:10:32,130 --> 01:10:32,490
Thank you for your work.

1021
01:10:32,490 --> 01:10:33,950
Thank you for your work.

1022
01:10:35,050 --> 01:10:36,310
Anything further?

1023
01:10:37,070 --> 01:10:37,210
No.

1024
01:10:37,210 --> 01:10:39,450
business and we will adjourn.