1 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:49,160 Start with other perks. 2 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,600 » Okay, 3 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:56,519 » getting water. 4 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:03,680 Uh good evening everyone and welcome to Perthy's Council on this first day of 5 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:07,920 September. I'd like to call our meeting to order. Uh before we get into our 6 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:13,720 agenda, we do have a presentation tonight and I'd like uh Bill Hunter to 7 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,720 come to the front. 8 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,440 » Whoops. Sorry. >> Okay. 9 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:27,680 » Sorry. You need to >> No, I might. [laughter] 10 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,760 » I lost my >> Oh, you lost your 11 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:37,760 » Oh my goodness. >> Anyway, tonight we're here to honor 12 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Bill. He has a long service of 25 years in the fire department and we're so 13 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:46,079 lucky 12 of those years have been here. So, in sincere appreciation of your 25 14 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:49,760 years of courageous and dedicated service to the residents of Ontario, 15 00:10:48,079 --> 00:10:54,560 protecting their lives and property from the fire. And so behalf of uh council 16 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,959 and staff, we congratulate you and thank you for all that you do. 17 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:02,800 » Thank you very much. >> Welcome. 18 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,399 » And we have a little pin for you. >> Thank you. 19 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,720 » And a medal. >> Thank you. 20 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:10,727 » And a certificate. >> Yeah. The clerk's been doing some work 21 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,680 behind our back. [laughter] 22 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,160 » No, I don't. It's been a pleasure. 23 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Okay. Uh before we do our moment of reflection, I also would I'd like to 24 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:58,320 take a minute to acknowledge the passing of Fred Nectto, a longtime Ellis 25 00:11:55,839 --> 00:12:04,800 resident. Fred passed away on August the 27th. Fred served as both deputy reeve 26 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:10,160 from 1977 to 1980 and Reeve of Ellis Township from 1981 to 1985. 27 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Fred took great pride in his community and was committed to municipal service. 28 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:19,680 His contributions to local government and his dedication to the community will 29 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:24,240 be remembered. In honor of his life and service to Perth East, flags will remain 30 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:29,120 lowered at municipal facilities until the day of his memorial service. Please 31 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,440 remember the Neto family in your moment of reflection. 32 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Thank you. Now we'll move on to confirmation of the 33 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:51,279 agenda and Ashley has a couple additions for us. 34 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:55,600 » Okay. Thanks Mary. So there is two additions that were miss being uploaded 35 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:59,200 in the agenda. So the first one is item number 6.2.2 36 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:06,240 from Dietrich Engineering Limited regarding the lit municipal drain report 37 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:11,680 2026 and the second item is 6.2.3 um also by Dietrich Engineering Limited 38 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:15,040 for the Moch Municipal Drain 2026 report. 39 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:20,160 » Okay, thank you. So, we have a motion that says that the 40 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:25,040 um that the agenda as prepared for September 1, 2026 meeting of council of 41 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:31,839 the township of Perth East be approved as amended. Moved by Jerry, second by 42 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:36,639 Amanda. All in favor? Carried. If you have interest council, you can disclose 43 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:42,240 that now or as our meeting goes along. Under consent agenda, we have 11 items. 44 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:45,920 Is there anything anyone has questions on or would like pulled? 45 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:56,160 Nope. Okay. We do have a motion that says items 5.1.1 46 00:13:52,880 --> 00:14:00,720 to 5.1.11 as set out in consent agenda for the September 1, 2026 regular 47 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:05,360 meeting of council be received for information and that the minutes of 48 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:13,120 August 11, 2026 regular council meeting be adopted. Moved by Bob, second by 49 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:17,680 Andrew. All in favor? Carried. Okay, 50 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:22,639 we now move to presentations. We have no public presentations. Under other 51 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:27,199 presentations, we do have three. The first one is uh Ben Lefort from the 52 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:31,040 Ontario Federation of Agriculture and he's going to talk about the fiscal 53 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:36,279 impact of farmland on Ontario municipalities and Ben is joining us on 54 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:36,279 Zoom. 55 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:43,440 » Good evening. >> Good evening and welcome. and the floor. 56 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:48,959 » Thank you very much. Okay. Um just see if I can share my 57 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:54,440 screen or if the presentation comes up on the uh screen here. I'm not quite 58 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,440 sure if the procedure. 59 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,839 Let me see. Just try and >> you should be able to 60 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:06,399 » Oh, there we go. I do have it now. Yes. Excellent. 61 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:10,460 Okay. So, thank you again uh so much for 62 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:14,240 having me here today. Um, as [clears throat] mentioned, my name is 63 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:18,720 Ben Leaffort. I'm a senior economist with the Ontario Federation of 64 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:25,199 Agriculture and [snorts] uh happy to share with you today uh some results of 65 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:32,240 research we've done in the past and um some policy implications um of which I 66 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:39,360 think uh uh will be quite relevant to to the work of Perth East Municipality. So, 67 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:43,920 uh, we've done several of these types of reports in the past which aim to look at 68 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:51,199 answering the question, you know, what impact does farmland have on municipal 69 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:55,360 budgets? Um, we've done a number of case studies through these cost of community 70 00:15:53,199 --> 00:15:58,560 services studies. And really, these were studies where [clears throat] we 71 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,680 partnered with municipalities that were interested in answering that same 72 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:07,440 question. And we worked, pardon me, with uh 73 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:12,639 municipal staff [clears throat] to gather all, you know, the uh uh 74 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:17,519 financial documents, year-end reports of each department within the municipality 75 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:21,600 and try best we could to allocate the revenues and expenditures of the 76 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:27,920 municipality to four different land use categories of uh farmland, residential, 77 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:33,440 commercial, industrial um uh properties and see uh which uh what the results for 78 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:37,360 in terms of the expenses and revenues associated with each. Uh I'll move 79 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:41,199 through some of these slides more quickly. Some of this work has been done 80 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:46,240 quite in the past about seven or eight years ago. 81 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:51,920 Um the main finding here was uh similar to what results were in in studies we 82 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:56,000 saw in the US which is often that uh kind of non-residential properties 83 00:16:53,519 --> 00:17:00,079 commercial industrial and farm uh brought in more revenue than they 84 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:04,000 consumed worth of expenses from the municipality. So this right here is the 85 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:08,160 average results we saw from the US studies with that red line there being 86 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:14,720 kind of the break even point if you will where expenses equal revenue. Um we 87 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:21,919 wanted to then um update those to see does this uh hold for um Ontario 88 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:25,199 municipal um financial arrangements in uh different states in the US is quite 89 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:30,559 different from what we have here in in Ontario. Um and these are some of the 90 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:35,200 results of the the previous um US studies I mentioned which we looked at 91 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:39,360 before uh just to show you how much how varying the results can be. These are 92 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:44,160 some of the results of uh state of Georgia done quite a number of these 93 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:48,080 studies in the early 2000s. >> Ben uh you're the slides aren't moving. 94 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:52,280 I don't know if you >> they're not moving. No. 95 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,280 » Okay. 96 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,760 » All right. Can you see them here? like in this way. 97 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:57,600 » We can see the >> There we go. 98 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,880 » There we go. Yep. >> Okay. I'll just keep it down here for 99 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:05,280 the this I won't go into full presentation mode just for the sake of 100 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,160 uh simplicity here. >> Sorry. So, you probably were wondering 101 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:12,799 what I was talking about that whole time there. Okay. [snorts] I'll I'll pick it 102 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,640 back up and I'll I'll jump more into the the newer study that we uh we were 103 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:20,720 looking at because these case studies we were doing and we did a number of them. 104 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:25,520 We did studies in BAM, Mr. Mapleton, Lannarch County, Zora Township and 105 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:28,960 Prince Edward County. Uh, and the results, as I mentioned, they were 106 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:35,280 similar to what we saw in the US. But those types of case studies have uh, uh, 107 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:40,320 pretty big limitations. One being it gives average results. It can't tell you 108 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,679 what is the impact of, you know, putting one additional housing unit in a 109 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:48,160 municipality. It says here's the average of all the houses. Uh, it's subjective 110 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:52,559 by nature. we were working directly with municipal staff to come up with these 111 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:56,480 allocations. Um, so by the very nature of that, it's there's some subjectivity 112 00:18:54,559 --> 00:19:01,200 to it and it's static. What we were looking at was one municipality in one 113 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:05,120 year. So when we did BAM, it was uh the results for BAM in the year 2016, I 114 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:10,080 believe, right? Doesn't necessarily mean that's what the results for BAM were in 115 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:14,480 the year 2017 or for like Malhide is similar, you know, another municipality 116 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:20,320 in Alen County of the same year. So we uh wanted to uh improve this. We 117 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:25,440 found a study that was done by economists in uh the University of 118 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:30,320 Florida uh that had looked at a way of of compiling the kind of statewide 119 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:35,760 municipal data and looking at how the impact of removing uh farmland. So when 120 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:39,840 you you lose farmland to development, what impact did that have on on 121 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:43,520 municipal budgets? So their study finding in uh Florida again was similar 122 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,799 to what they found in in the other studies which is when they remove 123 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:52,160 farmland it actually had a negative impact on municipal budgets implying 124 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:57,280 that having farmland is a positive on municipal budgets. Uh so we wanted to to 125 00:19:55,679 --> 00:20:02,080 again adapt this for Ontario. What is the what does the data say here for 126 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:09,280 Ontario? So I gathered um for any municipality uh that had um uh farm area 127 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:13,840 score which meaning like uh of 10% or more meaning of the land base in the 128 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,280 municipality 10% at least of that is in farmland. We included all those uh in 129 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,799 the study. We obviously didn't want to include like city of Toronto in the 130 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:24,960 study that would throw everything off. And we uh then built a model based on 131 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,000 what we saw in the Florida study which which measured that. So when you look at 132 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,600 the percentage of the county's total land mass that's in farming when that 133 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:39,280 changes how does the municipality's revenues and the municipalities uh 134 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:46,159 expenses how does that change? Um, so what we found was, uh, looking at this 135 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:51,360 over a, uh, 15-year period, a 1% decrease in in in farmland share, 136 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:56,559 meaning a 1% reduction in the amount of farmland in the municipality was 137 00:20:53,840 --> 00:21:03,600 associated with a 0.55% decrease in revenue and a 0.51% 138 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:07,200 in uh, decrease in expenses. So what that's saying is when you're losing 139 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:13,520 farmland, you're losing uh more revenue than you are saving and and servicing of 140 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:21,440 of the land. um revenues on average when you when a municipality lost 1% of their 141 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:28,080 um uh farm uh the farmland in their county uh revenues decreased by 1.36 142 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:33,280 million uh and sorry and again this is through an average throughout all of all 143 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:38,320 of Ontario and uh expenses decreased by 1.1 so there's actually uh the the 144 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:45,840 operating surplus of the municipality decreased by over $200,000 for every 1% 145 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:50,559 loss of farmland. So losing farmland um was associated with a reduction and 146 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:56,400 smaller uh budget surplus and in in the scenario where a municipality uh did not 147 00:21:52,799 --> 00:22:00,000 lose in in a given year but that kind of um backs up and I I know we're quick on 148 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:04,559 time and actually the main point I want to make here is at the end in the policy 149 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:09,280 piece here. So um on the the main takeaway there is that we found 150 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:14,240 consistent evidence that uh farmland um is a net positive on on uh municipal 151 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:17,679 budgets um which leaves some of the policy pieces. A good implication of 152 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:21,200 that is that you know there's a lot of good reasons to want to protect 153 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,559 farmland. We hope this is provides an additional reason which is there's a 154 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:28,880 fiscal benefit of protecting farmland that developing it into say housing uh 155 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:33,200 may bring in more revenue but will certainly also bring in more expenses to 156 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,799 service the new housing. Uh and that's the main point on the farmland 157 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:41,280 protection piece is something we've tied to our our positions on development 158 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,400 charges which is we believe uh farm buildings, new barns and whatnot should 159 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,840 be exempt from development charges because that is for growth related 160 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,840 infrastructure. uh we are happy to see that threearters 161 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:56,799 of municipalities in Ontario including Perthies so thank you choose to exempt 162 00:22:54,799 --> 00:23:01,520 uh farms from their development charge bylaws and I think for the same reason 163 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:06,640 that we we point out here now the big point here that I think from municipal 164 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:10,480 perspective that's most interesting is when you look at the results we have for 165 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:16,799 these studies why do we get a result where farmland is 166 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:22,559 a net positive two reasons and it's not ne One of them is uh municipalities over 167 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:28,720 the last 15 to 20 years have had to rely on an increasing share of their revenue 168 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:32,400 from property tax while at the same time firearm assessments uh the impact 169 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:36,799 assessments and therefore their share of the property taxes have gone up 170 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:42,880 significantly. Uh so if we look here even in just looking at numbers in in 171 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:49,120 Perth East and in 2010 18% of uh tax revenue came from farm properties in 172 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:55,039 2024 that was up to nearly 30%. So that's one portion is is your um 173 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,600 increasing share of municipal revenues coming from property tax and and a 174 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:01,360 bigger share of that's coming from farmland. 175 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:07,360 But the other point of that is what are the services that we by we I mean the 176 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:13,120 province um are asking municipalities to deliver and in many ways those are 177 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:20,000 becoming more disconnected from property tax as a revenue source a lot more into 178 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:24,640 um social uh housing and healthcare and a whole bunch of social services and 179 00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:30,159 people's services that have increased is a significant portion of uh of municipal 180 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:34,000 budgets. And the third thing for a small rural 181 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:38,640 municipality similar like Perth East is at the same time uh so the implication 182 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,880 of a larger share of your revenue coming from property taxes a smaller share of 183 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:49,679 that is coming from grant revenue things through like the Ontario municipal 184 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:53,200 partnership fund. Uh so uh let me see I have some actual numbers here on on 185 00:24:51,600 --> 00:25:01,840 earth's example of a municipal partnership fund. So, um, in 2010, um, 186 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:06,799 over three the amount of, uh, revenue from that, uh, grant funding from the 187 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:11,360 OMF in Perth East was $3.3 million. And by 2024, we're less than half that at 1 188 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:18,400 point uh, almost a third of that, just over $1.1 million. 189 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:25,360 more to the point in 2011 27% of the operating revenue of of Perth 190 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:30,400 East came from the OMF in 2024 that was less than 6%. 191 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:35,279 So this is a big piece of what's driving that result for farmland being a net 192 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:39,600 positive. You uh in many ways there's a lot less uh funding of this key funding 193 00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:43,919 program coming from the province to rural municipalities and farmland values 194 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,039 has been going through the roof. So it is ob going to be a net positive to to 195 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:52,880 have farmland in your in your municipality. That doesn't mean that 196 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:58,640 this is uh a good thing per se uh that um a decreasing share of the revenue is 197 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:01,919 is coming from uh provincial grants and while at the same time there's all these 198 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:06,480 other services municipalities are are being asked to give. But one of his 199 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:10,640 positions over the last year or so has been to increase for the asking the 200 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:15,600 province to increase the municipal partnership funds annual funding 201 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:19,840 envelope to $1 billion. It had been sitting at 500 million for quite a 202 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:24,799 number of years. Uh in the last two years they've they've increased it to 203 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,960 600 million and that's that's welcome. Uh but that's still significantly short 204 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:35,360 on an inflationadjusted basis of where it was in say 2005. 205 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Um [clears throat] so we have crunched these numbers for every 206 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:46,240 municipality of what would your funding be uh if the OMF was of 1 billion. So in 207 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:51,840 2024 as mentioned before Perth East had 1.1 million in funding from the OMF 208 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:56,400 um under the current formulas of the program if that were to increase to a 209 00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:05,200 billion that would increase to over 2.3 million. Uh so an extra $1.2 $2 million 210 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:10,559 of funding um directly to uh the municipality of Paris if we were 211 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:17,279 successful in a a uh OMF funding of of $1 billion annually. Um and this fully 212 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:21,520 aligns with uh you know OFA's long um you know our primary um concern is 213 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:26,480 advocating on behalf of farmers but farmers need strong communities to have 214 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:30,799 a strong business and a wellunded uh municipalities that that can focus on 215 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:35,840 the the infrastructure costs at hand and have the funding to do so. So this fully 216 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:40,799 is in line with um our our positions over the years. Um we have done a lot 217 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:45,600 more in the last year or so of of adding some more data and some more research 218 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:49,760 behind some of our um policies on rural infrastructure funding and funding for 219 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:54,720 rural municipalities and and this piece of the OPF is going to be a big piece of 220 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:00,080 our advocacy uh as we head into the uh pre-budget submissions for for the 221 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:03,840 province. Uh so I do hope um that we have opportunity to work with not only 222 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:08,559 municipalities like northeast but with you know western eastern wardens 223 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:14,399 caucuses and romas etc to find these kind of policy areas where there is uh 224 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,840 an overlap of of interest and potential to work together. Uh so to sum up 225 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:21,679 everything that I've been looking at here, we've been looking at research in 226 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:27,200 in Ontario at the municipal level for the last um 10 to 15 years that have 227 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:31,440 been showing kind of increasingly that yes, farmland is a net positive on 228 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:36,640 municipal budgets. And when we dive into the details, a lot of that is driven by 229 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:41,039 um how reliant municipalities have become on property tax and the services 230 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:46,640 and funding that's available to municipalities. All of these dictate um 231 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:50,880 what you know the the fiscal impacts of of different land use uh types in a in a 232 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:57,520 municipality. The more we're asking municipalities to deliver so people 233 00:28:53,200 --> 00:29:02,240 services uh the more the nonp people property of farming commercial 234 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:06,240 industrial will have a net uh financial positive and we do hope to be able to 235 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,440 work together on issues like OPF and rural infrastructure funding which again 236 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,039 are going to be key pieces of our advocacy moving forward. So, thank you 237 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,480 so much. I know I've probably gone over my time, but if you have any questions 238 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,200 or comments or discussion, I'd be I'd be very happy to uh review with you. Thank 239 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,440 you. >> Okay. Thanks, Ben. Any questions of the 240 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,440 presenter? 241 00:29:25,679 --> 00:29:33,039 » Uh I have one. Um we keep talking about uh saving farmland. We need to keep the 242 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:37,760 farmland. Yet when someone goes to build a house and because of the farms around 243 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:42,799 it now they're have to build their house in the middle of the farm which takes 244 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,600 out farmland to get to it. So sometimes the MDS 245 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:49,919 um distances [clears throat] cause more problems than they're worth. 246 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:55,039 You know I know they draw a circle that manure smell does not magically stop at 247 00:29:52,320 --> 00:30:01,360 the edge of the circle. [laughter] >> Certainly not. I I uh thank you for that 248 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,480 comment and uh I'll pass that back to uh my colleague Duncan in our policy 249 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,039 department who handles our land use issues. Thank you. 250 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:14,320 » Okay. Thank you, Bob. >> I don't have any questions here for you, 251 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:20,640 Ben, but I guess my comments are this uh presentation is best suited to the 252 00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:26,720 members of provincial parliament. Um, there's not a whole lot that I can do 253 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:31,200 about OMF or land land use planning or the fact that the province has frozen 254 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:36,159 impacts property assessments. All these things need to be done. We all know it. 255 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:40,080 But I've been an OFA member for 30 years and I've been hearing the same things 256 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:44,559 over and over again and yet I never see anything done. So rather than coming to 257 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:47,919 small rural municipalities who are immersed in all the problems that the 258 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,919 province has downloaded, maybe you could advocate to try and have some of these 259 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:57,279 services uploaded to the uh province like uh policing or social services or 260 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:02,000 long-term care or health units. All these things that we pay into uh that 261 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:07,039 always are going up because of unionized wages, etc. Um this needs to be taken on 262 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:13,039 with a larger role, the members of parliament. So coming here um is great, 263 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:18,320 but I've heard it many many times over the years and uh there's not a whole lot 264 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:22,480 I can do as a sitting member of for the East Council. So I wish you well 265 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,799 wherever you take this forward. But uh coming here to us, you're already 266 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:31,120 preaching to the choir. So >> yeah. Uh so I I appreciate that. I I 267 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:35,840 would like to to address that that idea though because well, first of all, we we 268 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:40,559 do walk and chew gum. So this uh coming here does not mean we're not also taking 269 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:48,640 this to municipal to the provincial uh MPPPS and to ministers. Um we absolutely 270 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:53,200 uh are we we try to do both but um I do think on something like the OMF 271 00:31:51,440 --> 00:32:00,240 uh you're right we've been hearing about it for many years. I started off in in 272 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:06,720 uh 20 uh when did I start off? 2013 and it was an old issue then. Um, and I do 273 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,960 though think that the only way that we are realistically going to see any 274 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:15,120 movement on these type of things is if there is a a coalition of of rural 275 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,880 voices of the municipalities, particularly the municipalities and 276 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,240 organizations like Offa and if there are other rural voices that that have a 277 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:26,320 similar strength. Um, and maybe not particularly at the individual municipal 278 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:31,760 level, but you never know. Sometimes that can be um uh have an impact but uh 279 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,480 really through your collective voice of those groups like the Western Wardens 280 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:40,559 Caucus, Eastern Wardens Caucus um we have worked together uh early in my 281 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,200 career when one of the the first files I worked on was working with the Western 282 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:49,679 eastern wardens to restore funding to the connecting links program which is a 283 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,960 provincial funding program that uh essentially provides funding for roads 284 00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:57,600 and bridges that are kind of in that gray area between municipal and 285 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:01,760 provincial assets. sets um and working all together. We did see some success in 286 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:06,480 that and in over the years on certain files the municipal voices and and offa 287 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:12,720 have worked together in certain things. Um I think there could be a more um 288 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,559 orchestrated effort and more consistent effort on all of our our parts to share 289 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,960 our voices together on on those rural issues at the provincial level. So, 290 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,640 that's kind of uh another piece here is is um these type of meetings, they may 291 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,720 may not seem like it's moving the needle, but the more of these type of 292 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:33,440 meetings and getting everyone on the same page on on positions, I think is 293 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,120 the necessary groundwork that has to happen before we could be realistically 294 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:41,840 see any movement on these type of issues. So, I do take your point and 295 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,200 this would be one of many many many many meetings at uh and presentations where 296 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,360 we want to get the word out on this kind of stuff. 297 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:55,519 Okay. Anyone else? If not, thank we thank you very much, 298 00:33:53,519 --> 00:34:00,399 Ben, for your presentation tonight. Very informative and we hope you have a good 299 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:04,159 rest of your evening. >> Thank you so much. Have a great night. 300 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,600 » Yep. Thank you. So council, we do have a motion that the council of the township 301 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:12,879 of Perth East receive the presentation provided by Ben the Fort Ontario 302 00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:18,560 Federation of Agriculture OFA regarding the fiscal impact of farmland on Ontario 303 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:23,800 municipalities for information. Moved by Amanda, second by Hugh. All in favor. 304 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:29,919 Okay. Our next presentation is on the lit municipal drain and we have Bill 305 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:36,520 Dietrich with us tonight. So welcome Bill. Good to see you. 306 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,520 And the floor is yours. 307 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:50,000 I think I'm wired up here. Am I Can you Can everybody hear me? 308 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:55,919 » Okay. We have two drainage reports going to present this evening. We'll we'll The 309 00:34:52,240 --> 00:35:01,920 first one um is the lit municipal drain. And um well there is a drawing attached 310 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:06,560 to the uh at the back of the drainage report and I'll be referring to it in my 311 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,440 presentation. Um 312 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:17,520 oh it's up on the screen there. Now this um this project uh was initiated under 313 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:22,400 section 78 of the drainage act. Uh council had asked us to prepare um a 314 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:25,760 drainage report for improvements to the main drain portion of the lit municipal 315 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,320 drain. And this was initiated under a request 316 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:36,320 signed by Peter Van Ninatan and Bob Greneste. Uh the existing drain um uh as 317 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:41,040 you'll see on the plan here, which is the green green line on the on the 318 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:46,000 drawing there. This is an existing tile drain that was installed back in 1930 by 319 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:51,920 an engineer. Uh the engineers report was prepared by John Roger. And uh back then 320 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:57,119 there was 2500 ft of 10in and 14in diameter tile installed to serve uh the 321 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:03,040 upper portion of the lit municipal drain. Uh the outlet for this um uh tile 322 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:10,400 system is in uh the open portion of the lit drain which is located in lot 17 of 323 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:14,400 concession 2. Uh the open portion of of the lit drain was recently cleaned out 324 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:20,320 under the maintenance program in uh 2025. Our proposal here is to install a 325 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:24,880 new drainage system to replace uh the existing drain. Uh it will outlet at the 326 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:30,160 upper end of the open ditch again on in lot 17 of concession 2 with the upstream 327 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:35,440 end of the d tile drainage system at the east side of road 130. The the new drain 328 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:43,119 will consist of the installation of 760 m of 450 mm tile at the upper end to 525 329 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:48,000 mm tile at the outlet. It also includes the construction of two new road 330 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:53,119 crossings, one under Perth uh line 36 and the other under road 130. This um 331 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,800 drainage system uh serves a drainage area of approximately 133 acres and we 332 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,720 used a 1 and a half inch drainage coefficient for the design. The 333 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:05,119 estimated cost of this project which includes the construction costs uh 334 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,720 allowances for right of way and damages to lands and crops and the 335 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:14,920 municipalities administration costs. We've estimated the total um cost for 336 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,920 this project at $192,600. 337 00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:21,119 So that's my presentation. Uh the purpose of this meeting is to consider 338 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,400 the scope of work for this project. So I kind of outlined what we're proposing to 339 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,400 do here and if there's any any questions regarding the work that's being planned 340 00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:33,359 here, I'll pleased to answer those. >> Okay. Thanks, Bill. Any questions from 341 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:38,320 council? Is there anyone here in the audience 342 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:42,440 who's here in regards to the strain? would like to question have questions? 343 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:49,520 Nope. Okay. We do have a motion and the motion reads that the council of the 344 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:55,200 township of northeast receive the report from Dietrich Engineering Limited 345 00:37:52,000 --> 00:38:00,880 regarding the lit municipal drain 2026 serving parts of lots 15 to 17 346 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:05,760 concession 2 and part of lots 14 and 17 concession 3 township of Perth east of 347 00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:09,680 Lard County of Perth and further that the quarterly revision for the lit 348 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:16,960 municipal drain 2026 be held on September 15 2026 at 6:30 349 00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:23,520 Moved by Amanda, second by Hugh. All in favor? Carried. Okay. And the next drain 350 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:29,000 we're going to do is a smoke municipal drain. So, Bill, the floor is yours. 351 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000 » Okay. 352 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Uh, thanks um, Mayor Edg, uh, members of council. This uh um drainage report that 353 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:47,760 we've prepared here uh for the for the municipality will be known as the Moch 354 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:51,200 Municipal Drain 2026. The name rates uh kind of reflects back to the original 355 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:57,839 drainage system that is in place there now. And it um it was constructed um as 356 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:02,480 an award drain. um we were weren't able to actually find the actual copy of the 357 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:06,480 award, but it was um uh constructed under uh a previous uh previous 358 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:11,839 legislation under the ditches and water courses act. This act no longer exists 359 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,839 and this uh existing drainage system basically is doesn't come under the 360 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:20,720 control of the municipality any longer. So the um the land owners um have 361 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:26,560 petitioned under section four of the drainage act to have a municipal drain 362 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:32,560 constructed. the um the uh an on-site meeting was held back in May of of this 363 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:37,440 year to um discuss the area requiring drainage. A survey was done to establish 364 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:44,079 uh where the drain should be located and also the the catchment or watershed area 365 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:48,800 for this project. Um our proposal here, you'll see uh uh it's on the up in the 366 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:56,000 up on the plan up on the screen there. It uh it will include uh a clean out of 367 00:39:52,160 --> 00:40:00,240 the open portion of the um the Wilhelm drain which is known as C drain for 368 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:06,400 approximately a little over 700 m to provide a sufficient outlet for this new 369 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:10,720 new tile system. We're um um going to be removing two of the existing farm 370 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:17,119 crossings that are in the open ditch and one will be replaced with a 12 m length 371 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:22,800 of 1500 mm pipe. Also, uh the drain the drain itself is 372 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:31,520 consists of a a pipe system. Um we'll be installing 1,62 m of 450 mm to 600 mm 373 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:36,880 tile and HTP pipe. Um from the outlet in the Wilhelm drain in lot 29 of 374 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:44,079 concession 4. This is on the Ghead Ngrassi farm uh upstream to the um uh 375 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:49,119 east half of lot 31 of concession 5. And this also includes two road crossings, 376 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:55,920 one under line 29 and one under road 109. We're also incorporating um the 377 00:40:53,280 --> 00:41:00,240 lower portion of the drain was installed um by Mark Cook drainage in 2012 and 378 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,319 we're going to be incorporating the drain that was installed there as part 379 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:10,160 of this project as well. And back then there was a 416 m of 450 mm pipe 380 00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:12,960 installed. Uh the drainage coefficient again we used to design this drain is 381 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:19,200 the same as the last one and a half inch drainage coefficient and we've estimated 382 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:22,640 the cost of this project at $354,000. So again that's kind of a brief outline 383 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,200 of what what's being planned here. But again if there's any questions regarding 384 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:31,119 the the scope of work I'll I'll be pleased to answer those. 385 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:34,520 » Okay. Thanks Bill. Any questions from members of council? 386 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,079 Any questions from anyone in the audience? 387 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:45,040 Seeing none, may we have a motion that council of the township of Peris receive 388 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:51,359 a report from Dietrich Engineering Limited, Moch Municipal Drain 2026 389 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:56,880 serving parts of lot 29 to 30 concession 4 and parts of lots 30 and 31 concession 390 00:41:54,240 --> 00:42:00,960 5, Township of Perth East, Southeast to Ford, County of Perth, and further that 391 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:07,920 the quarter revision for the Moch Municipal Drain 2026 be held in 392 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:13,040 September 15, 2026 at 6:30 Moved by Jerry, second by Amanda. All in 393 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,040 favor? Jerry. >> Thanks, Bill. 394 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:16,560 » Okay, good. >> And hope you enjoy the rest of your 395 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:20,720 night. >> Have a good evening. 396 00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:26,079 » Okay, now we're going to move on. We have no delegations. We do have a public 397 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,920 meeting. I declare this public meeting to be 398 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:33,680 open. This public meeting is being held to consider a proposed zoning bylaw 399 00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:41,359 amendment affecting property currently owned by Brando Farms Limited, part of 400 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:46,160 lot 8 and 9, concession 1, 4330-4348, line 34. This meeting is an opportunity 401 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:51,119 for the township to advise the public of the purpose and intent of the amendment 402 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:55,520 and receive their input prior to the to considering adoption of an implementing 403 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:59,760 bylaw. If a bylaw is adopted to implement the zoning amendment, a notice 404 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,520 of passing will be forwarded by prepaid first class mail to various agencies of 405 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,760 interest and others who have requested notice. An appeal to the Ontario Land 406 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:13,040 Tribunal objecting to the adoption of the bylaw may be efiled via the OOLT 407 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,800 file service no later than the date stated on the notice. Any persons 408 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:20,880 attending this meeting who wishes to receive written notice of a bylaw passed 409 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,640 to implement the amendment is asked to give their name and mailing address to 410 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,480 the clerk following this meeting. No written notice except as previously 411 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,160 noted will be given unless requested in writing following the meeting. All 412 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,480 persons attending this meeting will be given an opportunity to be heard or make 413 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,800 a presentation. I will now call on our planner Aubrey Ericson to present the 414 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,400 planning report and recommendations. So Aubrey, good to see you and welcome and 415 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,240 the floor is yours. Thank you, Mayor Eggets. Good evening, Madame Mayor and 416 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:53,359 Council. Zoning bylaw amendment application ZN12-2026 417 00:43:51,280 --> 00:44:00,319 has been submitted by Trevor McNeel of MTE on behalf of Brandell Farms for the 418 00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:04,079 lands municipally known as 4330 to 4348 line 34. 419 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,280 The applicant is proposing to reszone both the severed and retained lands to 420 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:12,160 satisfy the conditions of consent application B18-26 421 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,319 which was given conditional approval on July 14th, 2026. 422 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:22,560 The severed lands are proposed to be zoned A-201 to permit the unders sized 423 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:29,119 agricultural lot and reduced frontage from 200 m to 110 m and the retained 424 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:34,640 lands are proposed to be zoned A-202 to permit the undersized agricultural lot. 425 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:38,079 The Perth County official plan and the provincial planning statement 2024 426 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,160 require agricultural lots to be appropriately sized for operations in 427 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:46,079 the area and for flexibility to change the type and size of the agricultural 428 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:50,800 operation to meet emerging economic conditions and trends in agriculture. 429 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,720 The assessment of the size of the new agricultural lot. Uh the official plan 430 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,680 considers things including the assessment of the amount of productive 431 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:02,319 land, the amount of wood lot, the presence or necessity for farm buildings 432 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:06,480 and structures. So the area of workable land on these severed and retained 433 00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:11,920 parcels is approximately 29.5 hectares and 27.3 hectares respectively. The ACM 434 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:16,240 lands, natural features and farm residents and accessory structures are 435 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:20,319 located outside of that calculation. Further, the proposed lots do not remove 436 00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:24,319 any area currently in agricultural production. It is the opinion of staff 437 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,880 that the law area proposed for these lands is appropriately sized to 438 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:32,560 agricultural operations in the area and that it is suitably large enough to 439 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,560 maintain flexibility for future changes in type and size of agricultural 440 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,280 operations. Planning staff are supportive of the zone change 441 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,599 application and approval of the application is recommended. Happy to 442 00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:47,599 answer any questions. >> Okay, thank you. Is there anyone present 443 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:53,359 who wishes to make a presentation or speak in opposition of the application? 444 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,280 Seeing no one, is there anyone present who wishes to make a presentation or 445 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:01,359 speak in support of the application other than the applicant or the 446 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:04,880 applicant's agent? Seeing no one, does the applicant or the 447 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:09,200 applicant's agent wish to make a presentation or speak with respect to 448 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:13,280 the application? Trevor, 449 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:19,280 » evening, council, it's been a while since I've been up in 450 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:22,319 the hot seat. Uh so the uh as Aubrey has said the application was before council 451 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,280 about a month ago for the seventh approval and we're just here now for the 452 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:33,200 zoning application which is a condition of that so we have no other issues plan 453 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:37,520 report is is well documented any questions of council or anything. 454 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:43,680 » Okay thanks Trevor. Are there any questions for members of council? 455 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,960 Nope. Council will consider a resolution regarding the planning report 456 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:53,359 recommendation following the conclusion of the public meeting and bylaw 212-2026 457 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:57,440 to implement the approval of the zoning application will be considered later 458 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,800 within the council agenda. The public meeting is now concluded and we will 459 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:06,319 continue with the regular meeting of council. 460 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:10,079 So, we do have a motion and the motion reads that the township of Perth East 461 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:16,000 Council receive a report dated September 1, 2026 for zoning bylaw amendment 462 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:20,400 ZN12-2026 submitted by Trevor McNeel on behalf of 463 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:26,640 Brandle Farms Limited affecting the lands described as lot 9 less highway 464 00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:32,079 and North Park lot 8 concession 1 Ellis Ward Township of Perth East municipally 465 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:37,920 known as 4330-434 48 line 34 for information and that 466 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:41,839 council held a statutory public meeting pursuant to section 34 of the planning 467 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:47,359 act with respect to zoning bylaw amendment ZN12-2026 468 00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:52,640 and that council approve zoning bylaw amendment 212-2026. 469 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:58,359 I need a move and a second move by Amanda, second by Jeremy. All those in 470 00:47:55,359 --> 00:47:58,359 favor 471 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:07,359 » thank you. Okay, now we're going to move to our public hearing 472 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,960 and council will now temporary adjourn to this as committee of adjustment 473 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:15,680 pursuant to section 45 of the planning act. I now declare this public hearing 474 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:19,920 open. This public hearing is being held to consider an application affecting 475 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:29,760 property currently owned by Pauline Hurst and described as plan 261 lot 107 476 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:39,359 lot 108 lot 152 lot 153 part lot 154 part Victoria Street as RPS 44R704 477 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:45,280 44R 2887 part 1 Morningington Ward which is 4069 Northro Street in Milbank. The 478 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:49,359 purpose of this hearing is to give the committee and the public an opportunity 479 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:53,200 to hear all interested persons with respect to the proposed application and 480 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:57,359 receive their input and for the committee to make a decision on the 481 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:01,359 application. All persons attending this hearing will be given an opportunity to 482 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,880 be heard or make a presentation. Committee members may ask questions for 483 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:08,800 the purposes of clarifying the application but are asked to withhold 484 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:13,040 comments on this application until all present have been given an opportunity 485 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,720 to be heard. Any person who wishes to receive written notice of the decision 486 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:20,480 made by the committee of adjustment is asked to email their name and mailing 487 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:25,040 address to the secretary treasurer at this time. An appeal to the Ontario land 488 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:30,240 tribunal objecting to the decision made at this hearing may be eiled via the 489 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:34,480 OOLT eile service by the applicant, the municipality, the minister or prescribed 490 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:39,760 utility providers with the secretary treasur no later than the date stated on 491 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:44,000 the notice. No written notice except if previously noted will be given unless 492 00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:47,520 requested at this time. I will now call on our planner Aubrey to present the 493 00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,520 planning report and recommendation. So Aubrey, the floor is yours. 494 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,960 » Perfect. >> Thank you, Mayor Eggets. The minor 495 00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:59,520 variance application MV7-2026 was submitted by Pauline Horst for the 496 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,960 property at 4069 Norfolk Street in Milbank. 497 00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:10,559 The applicant requires relief from section 9.2.5 2.5 to reduce the exterior 498 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:14,960 sideyard minimum from 7.5 m to 5.2 meters. 499 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:20,480 The property is designated village and zoned HVR. The intent of the village 500 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:25,200 designation is to ensure that growth is the focus of serviced settlement areas. 501 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,960 The design of any proposed development in village designations should 502 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,800 complement the general form and density of existing neighborhood development 503 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,079 with access to a public road. Development should occur outside of 504 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,599 natural hazards and not generate conditions which are hazardous to 505 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:43,440 traffic movement and servicing capacity and storm water management are 506 00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:46,880 appropriate to the proposed development. The intent of the Hamlet Village 507 00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:50,800 residential zoning provisions are to ensure that there is appropriate space 508 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,960 available for private servicing and that development is orderly and compatible 509 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:58,000 with the area. The exterior sideyard provisions are to ensure appropriate 510 00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:01,760 sight lines at intersections for pedestrian safety. 511 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,359 The proposed minor variance is an expansion of a prevented use in both the 512 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Perth County official plan and the Perth East zoning bylaw with no change to the 513 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,839 settlement area boundary and the development proposed is appropriate and 514 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:17,599 similar to existing neighborhood uses. There is no change proposed to the 515 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,440 existing public road access and the development proposed is outside of 516 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:25,280 natural hazards. The proposal remains well below the HVR lot coverage in the 517 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:29,920 zoning bylaw with an appropriate area remaining for storm water management. 518 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:33,520 The lot is on private services and based on the size of the addition proposed 519 00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:36,640 both septic and grading will require review as a part of the building permit 520 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,359 which satisfies the intent of the official plan and zoning bylaw servicing 521 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:44,800 requirements. The setback reduction is not anticipated to interfere with the 522 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,720 sight lines at the intersection as the expansion is proposed to be located 523 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:53,359 outside of the site triangle. All other zone provisions are met. The application 524 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:57,440 for MV7-2026 conforms with the official plan policies 525 00:51:55,359 --> 00:52:01,200 and maintains the general intent and purpose of the zoning bylaw. The 526 00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:05,599 variance requested is minor in nature and is desirable use of the land and as 527 00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:09,200 a result approval of the variance is recommended. Happy to answer any 528 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:13,440 questions. Okay, thank you. Is there anyone present 529 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:18,160 who wishes to make a presentation or speak in opposition of the application? 530 00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:21,680 Seeing no one, is there anyone present who wishes to make a presentation or 531 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:26,400 speak in support of the application other than the applicant or the 532 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:29,839 applicant's agent? Seeing no one, does the applicant or the applicant agent 533 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:34,559 wish to make a presentation or speak with respect to the application? No. 534 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,960 Okay. Are there any questions from committee members? 535 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,040 No questions. The committee will now consider a motion regarding the 536 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:47,280 application. And we have a motion that the township 537 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:53,359 of Peris committee of adjustment approve application file MV7-2026 538 00:52:51,040 --> 00:53:03,839 submitted by Pauline Horst for lands described as plan 261 lot 107 lot 108 539 00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:10,559 lot 152 lot 153 part lot 106 part 154 as Victoria Street 44R704 540 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:16,880 part 1 44R2887 township of Perth East municipally known 541 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:24,079 as 4069 Norfolk Street as it relates to number one, relief from section 9.2.5 542 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:31,760 to reduce the minimum exterior sideyard with from 7.5 m to 5.2 m to facilitate 543 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:35,520 an 89 m squared addition to the existing resident subject to the following 544 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:39,680 condition. That condition is that the owner obtains a necessary building 545 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:44,480 permit within two years of the approval of the minor variance. I need a in a 546 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:51,839 second. Moved by Jerry, second by Amanda. All in favor? 547 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:57,119 I declare this public hearing closed. Okay. You're welcome. Okay. Now, we're 548 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:01,359 going to move to reports. And the first report is we have planning uh and 549 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:07,119 development. It's an application for our zoning amendment uh by Steve Jefferson 550 00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:11,359 on behalf of Allan and Harriet Banker uh for in Northeast Hope. And we have Jeff 551 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,160 with us tonight for this. So, Jeff, good to see you. and welcome to Perth East. 552 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,640 The floor is yours. >> Thank you. So, the property is located 553 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:26,400 on the north side of Perth Line 43 between road 104 and 103 and it's 554 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:30,079 municipally known as 1682 per line 43. The proposed amendment to the zoning 555 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:35,200 bylaw is intended to resone a portion of the lands from an agricultural zone and 556 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:40,640 a adjacent land overlay zone to an adjacent land overlay zone with a 557 00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:45,839 special agricultural zone A-194 to facilitate the non-farm residential 558 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:50,559 use uh without a farm use sorry residential use without a farm use on an 559 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:54,480 undersized lot with a lot of 6 meters due to the proximity of the non-farm 560 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,480 residence to the existing wood lot across adjacent to the subject lands 561 00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:02,400 that submitted an environmental screening report in support of the 562 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:08,880 development. Perth East Council approved ZN5205 563 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:12,000 on April 8th, but withheld the final reading in the zoning bylaw until the 564 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,760 required field studies could be completed, peer reviewed, and the 565 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:19,920 recommendations of the final version of the screening report are implemented. 566 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:24,800 The field studies have now been completed and the recommendations of the 567 00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:30,160 environmental study have determined that a 30 meter building setback and a 10 568 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:34,800 meter naturally vegetated buffer between the house septic and amenity area and 569 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:39,280 the significant woodland limit is required. Existing driveway does not 570 00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:44,800 need to be relocated and a landscape plan is necessary to detail the 571 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:48,319 plantings within the vegetated buffer. Recommendations of the environmental 572 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:53,040 screening have resulted in changes to the proposed zoning bylaw. As changes 573 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:58,960 have been made to the mending bylaw that was approved in principle, this staff 574 00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:02,799 report has been prepared to inform Perth East Council of the changes being 575 00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:06,960 proposed to the approved in principal zoning bylaw. 576 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,640 applicant has submitted a signed letter of undertaking 577 00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:14,480 to the township of Perth East which provides asurances that the landscape 578 00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:19,119 plan will be prepared and implemented prior to building occupancy. The letter 579 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:23,839 of undertaking has been accept accepted by staff. The proposed zoning bylaw has 580 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:28,319 been updated to include building setbacks in a vegetated buffer to the 581 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:32,079 significant woodland limit and planning staff are the opinion that policies of 582 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:36,079 the provincial planning statement and the official plan have been satisfied 583 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:40,640 with the implementation of the recommendations of the screening report. 584 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:44,720 Planning staff have no further concerns with the revised bylaw. Implementation 585 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,119 of the zoning bylaw allows for a non-farm residential use without a farm 586 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:52,480 use on an undersized lot that is compatible with the surrounding area. 587 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:56,559 The applicant is consistent with the PBS, conforms with the official plan, 588 00:56:54,640 --> 00:57:01,520 and represents good planning and available to answer any questions. 589 00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:05,839 » Okay, thanks Jeff. Questions of the report? 590 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:10,640 Hugh? >> Not necessarily a question, but uh I 591 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:17,119 think people should be very careful about making any kind of water on their 592 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:22,400 farm in the state. >> Also, Mr. Jefferson is joining us on the 593 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:27,440 on Zoom. So, if anyone had any questions for him as well, he is with us tonight. 594 00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:30,960 So if there's no questions and we do have a motion that the township of 595 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:37,200 Perthy's council receive the report dated September 1, 2026 for zoning bylaw 596 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:42,160 amendment ZN5-2025 submitted by Steve Jefferson on behalf 597 00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:47,599 of Allen and Harriet Banker affecting the lands described as part 8 concession 598 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:53,520 7 northeast board township of Perth East municipally known as 1682 Perth line 43 599 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:59,200 for information and that council give a third and final A reading to zoning 600 00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:06,400 bylaw amendment 2052-2026 as revised. I need a mover and a 601 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:11,119 seconder. Moved by Hugh, second by Jeremy. All those in favor carried. 602 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:14,400 Thanks Jeff. >> Thank you. 603 00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:19,599 » Excuse me. >> Okay, moving on our agenda. We have no 604 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:23,040 reports from the CEO uh from the clerk. The first one is our meeting schedule 605 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:29,119 for regular meetings of council for 2027. I'll turn it over to Ashley. 606 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:33,280 » Okay. Thanks, Mayor Eggets. So, just in the report, since the time of writing 607 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:39,680 the report, we were able to figure out the uh Ontario Small Urban Municipality 608 00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:44,559 Conference. That one's April 26th to the 28th and it's going to be hosted in 609 00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:48,960 Stratford this year. And then just a couple of comments um moving forward 610 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:54,640 with the daytime meetings. I've suggested to not host any Wednesday 611 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:57,839 meetings. Past practice was to move um the Tuesday meeting if it followed along 612 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:02,880 weekend to the Wednesday. So, this proposal is to keep everything on 613 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:06,240 Tuesdays. Um March 3rd on the agenda should actually be March 2nd. It says 614 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:12,640 Tuesday, March 3rd, but it's actually Tuesday, March 2nd. And the only other 615 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:17,760 day change is the April 8th Thursday proposal. And that's just how the 616 00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:23,440 calendar fell with the um OGRA conference. And I can try to answer any 617 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:29,920 questions if there's any or suggested changes. Um that's it. 618 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:34,960 » Okay. Excuse me. Questions of the report or comments? 619 00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:38,799 Andrew. >> Thank you, Mayor. It's um I know we kind 620 00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:43,280 of hashed this out before, but was there any consideration the the July and 621 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,799 August meetings are very very busy? Is there any consideration or do we want to 622 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:51,280 make consideration for maybe having a meeting? It might be better to cancel it 623 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,200 rather than have two large agendas in the summer. Just throwing that out there 624 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:58,520 if there's any support for that. If not, carry on. 625 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,240 » Yeah, it is. Uh it's up to council if they want to add one or not. We can 626 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:10,720 certainly do that. One thing that has historically happened and again it'll 627 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:15,280 depend on the new mayor but there is usually a budget visioning meeting 628 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:22,599 that's in July. So just one thing to consider too that there is not currently 629 01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:22,599 any budget meetings um in this schedule. 630 01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:28,520 Okay. Anyone else? 631 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,240 No. Okay. Well, we'll read this motion, see where it goes, and if you want to 632 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,000 change it. Uh that council of the township of Perth East receive a report 633 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:44,880 prepared by the manager of legislative services/municipal 634 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:51,599 clerk dated September 1, 2026 entitled 2027 meeting schedule for regular 635 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:56,400 meetings of council CL-2026-32 for information and further that the 636 01:00:53,839 --> 01:01:02,319 2027 schedule for the regular meeting of council be approved as outlined in 637 01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:08,480 schedule A as amended. We have a mover moved by Jeremy, second 638 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:12,240 by Amanda. Any more questions? All in favor? 639 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:17,920 Carried. Okay. And our next one is a petition for 640 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:24,400 drainage work. Ashley. Okay. Thanks, Margot. So, this is a request to add a 641 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:27,839 new municipal drain. Um, it was received by Gary Pletch and then there is other 642 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:33,520 property owners in the area that have signed the support um as well. It's in 643 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:40,400 the southeast hope board just uh south of the rail trail connecting into the 644 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:44,960 central train branch A. And I will try to answer any questions if there's any. 645 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:49,040 Okay. Thank you. Any questions of the report? 646 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:53,040 Seeing none, we do have a motion that council of the township of Perth East 647 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:56,880 receive the petition for drainage works section 4 of the drainage act by 648 01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:01,520 property owner Gary Pletch for concession one north part Law 31 649 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,760 southeast hope board township of Perth East for information and that council of 650 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:10,480 the township of Perth East appoint Dietrich Engineering to prepare a report 651 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:14,640 under section 4 of the drainage act and that staff proceed to provide notice of 652 01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:18,720 the proposed drainage works to the secretary treasure of the conservation 653 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:23,680 authority. that is jurisdiction over the lands in the affected area. I need a 654 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:30,720 mover and a second move by Andrew, second by Bob. Questions? All in favor? 655 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:35,760 Carried. Okay. Thanks, Ashley. We have uh nothing 656 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:41,359 from finance, nothing from public works, nothing from 657 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:46,000 building bylaw enforcement. Under parks and recreation, we have community sports 658 01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:49,280 and recreation infrastructure uh fund stream one round two. And Mike's going 659 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,200 to take that tonight. >> Thanks, Mayor Ro. I'm pinch hitting 660 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:57,200 tonight where Becky, she sends her request regrets. She's under the 661 01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:00,720 weather, unfortunately. So, um, this report recommends that council support 662 01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:05,440 an application to Ontario's community sport and recreation infrastructure fund 663 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:09,760 stream one round two for the rehabilitation of the perk pool 664 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:15,200 filtration system and related facility upgrades. Uh, the deadline for 665 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:21,280 application is December 22nd, 2026. The project has an estimated total cost of 666 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:26,079 468,000 consisting of 36,000 for final engineering and design work and 432,000 667 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:30,880 for rehabilitation of the pool filtration system and pump house post 668 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:34,400 facilities. The existing filtration system is nearly 30 years old and has 669 01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:39,119 been identified through multiple technical reviews as approaching end of 670 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:43,119 its useful life. Uh staff are proposing a funding strategy that combines 671 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:48,240 municipal reserves and external grant funding. The township would contribute 672 01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:52,559 36,000 from the pool reserve toward engineering design work while 673 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:56,960 applications would seek 216,000 from the CSR 674 01:03:54,160 --> 01:04:02,000 and 216,000 from the build community strong fund to fully finance the 675 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:06,000 project. Uh council previously uh authorized the submission to the build 676 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:11,440 community strong fund application on July 15, 2026. 677 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:14,880 Um I'm happy to try to address any questions. 678 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:18,359 Okay, thanks Mike. Any questions of the report? You 679 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:31,359 » will like I know there was bigger figure that we seen before about 680 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:36,880 fixing up stuff like that. This go to get up to speed. 681 01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:41,280 » Yeah, certainly this critical stuff that needs to be done. Yeah, this is the most 682 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:45,920 im imminent of the works at the pool and the most critical as it relates to kind 683 01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:50,799 of um the filtration system is kind of reaching its end. Some of the other pool 684 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:54,960 items, decking, those type of things are future needs, but I think from Becky's 685 01:04:53,039 --> 01:05:00,079 standpoint, she sees this as the most timesensitive. 686 01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:05,599 » Okay. is a particular reason uh you decide to do two funds and not just one 687 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:10,880 » the the funds the way they're structured are basically 50% max for each of the 688 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:15,760 funds. Uh one of my first questions to Becky was whether or not there would be 689 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:19,119 eligible for stacking. One of the funds is federal and one of them is 690 01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:23,520 provincial. So there would be potential for stacking if we were successful with 691 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:27,359 both. I would indicate the council that because of the nature of the project and 692 01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:32,319 the imminent need, if we're not successful with one or either of the 693 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:37,839 applications, it's likely that Becky will come to council and look for 694 01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:42,160 reserve um allocation in order to move forward with the project. Perhaps not in 695 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:45,400 2027, but probably within the next couple years. 696 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:52,559 » Okay, any other questions? If not, we do have a motion and that the 697 01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:56,160 council of the township of Perthies receive a report prepared by the manager 698 01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:01,359 of parks, recreation, and community services dated September 1, 2026 699 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:06,880 entitled community sports and recreation infrastructure fund stream one round two 700 01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:12,559 for information and further that staff include 36,000 in the 2027 budget to 701 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:17,119 obtain an engineer to complete the final design drawings for the Perk Pool 702 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:20,720 rehabilitation project and further that council direct staff to submit an 703 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:25,520 application for the community sports and recreation infrastructure fund stream 704 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:33,440 one round two for the pool rehabilitation project. Moved by Amanda, 705 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:40,160 second by Hugh. All in favor? Carried. Okay, thanks Mike. Uh we have no reports 706 01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:44,079 from flyer. We do have one uh item under correspondence and that's from the 707 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:49,760 Legion here in Milton uh requesting about uh the uh where the Senate is and 708 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:53,599 the township owning the property and they will still maintain it. There's 709 01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:57,520 still a lot of unanswered questions. So, we're wondering if we should send that 710 01:06:54,799 --> 01:07:02,640 back to staff and they can uh figure out some of the things that we need more 711 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:07,039 stuff we need to know and bring it back again. 712 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:08,960 That work? Do you removing that? >> Sure. travel comments first. 713 01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:13,599 » Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. This originally came to myself 714 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:18,880 through President Dale. Um and Sunday they did do the the announcement um at 715 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:24,880 their 100th anniversary celebration um for the Legion um Can Canadian Legion. 716 01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:28,480 And yeah, again, as as Mayor Rhonda suggested, I think we should send it 717 01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:33,119 back to staff for report for a report because this obviously is a very 718 01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:38,400 important part of our of our community. Um and hopefully we can we can make make 719 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:43,280 this work. to through to three three parties with the AC society, the Legion 720 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:47,599 and us. Yeah. I I would move that we send it to staff for report. 721 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,880 » Okay. So that the council of the township of Perth East received the 722 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:54,720 correspondence of Marilyn Dale, president of the Royal Canadian Legion, 723 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:59,520 Milbertton regarding a request for Senate placement at 24 Tempered Street 724 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:05,039 for information and at council direct staff to prepare a follow-up report. 725 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:11,760 Moved by Jerry, second by Amanda. Anyone else with comments or questions? All in 726 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:15,200 favor? Carried. Okay. Now, we're going to move down to 727 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:20,560 council and committee reports. My mayor's meeting log will come next 728 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:23,600 month. Uh, do we have any verbal reports on any of the committees people sit on? 729 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,440 Jerry, >> thanks for you, Mayor. I guess not not 730 01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:33,679 from a committee. I did attend the AMO conference August the 16th to the 19th. 731 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:39,440 a number of good uh sessions. Uh was able to also uh have a attend a couple 732 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:46,560 of delegations. One was with the uh the minister of um transportation, the PA um 733 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:51,040 to that uh portfolio in regards to our our the OP per county attachment. 734 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:55,520 Looking for some clarification on some of those um road closure signage and 735 01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:00,239 some of the the parameters around that. That was well received. Looking to have 736 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:06,799 some feedback after that. also sat in on the county's um session with the 737 01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:14,880 Minister of Finance PA Dave Smith in regards to the OMF funding um through 738 01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:20,960 the the farms and um treasurer um Corey um kind of headed that but they weren't 739 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:25,600 quite as receptive to that um indicating that hey if we give money here we have 740 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:30,640 to take it elsewhere. So, um that that was that was always a good always a good 741 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:35,359 um um thing to to sit in on. Also, the uh the premier board was there as was 742 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:40,000 all the other leaders. Um they elected a new president. Again, the the sport fund 743 01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:45,440 that Becky's applying to was announced at that conference. So, overall, another 744 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:49,440 great conference. I there was over I don't know how they organized it all 745 01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:54,239 amongst the provincial people, 3,000 delegations that they got to get in over 746 01:09:51,600 --> 01:10:01,960 that time. Um so yeah, all in all another great informative um conference 747 01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:01,960 and appreciate the I was able to attend. 748 01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:09,120 » Okay, thank you. I know you were there too. 749 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:15,120 » I was at a better place. I was at the Wilson fair. So thank you for being 750 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:22,400 away. I enjoyed that. And like you know Mr. West got me by to buy a very very 751 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:28,800 expensive pie which I'm enjoying. And at the conference and it was uh fairly 752 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:33,120 interesting. The uh uh one thing is the professional planners uh unfortunately 753 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:37,760 not for next year for the new term of council but uh they're going to have a 754 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:43,679 lot of uh information uh sessions that they'll be able to put 755 01:10:39,679 --> 01:10:51,040 on for counselors and other people. uh impact. They uh they had 756 01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:55,360 a session and in the future uh unfortunately they're no longer going to 757 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:59,440 be sending somebody out to assess your property. You're going to have to take 758 01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:03,679 your phone and go around and do it. So I know a picture is worth a thousand 759 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:10,560 words, but somebody on the ground is a whole lot uh a whole lot better. And uh 760 01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:16,159 and there was an awful lot of uh funding announcements. I hope can keep up with 761 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:21,679 all the different streams and it's always interesting at these conferences. 762 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:26,239 It's seems interesting more interesting to be talking to people from other 763 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:29,600 municipalities and their problems and how they're trying to solve their 764 01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:37,360 problems. But it seems that doesn't matter whether you come from almost 765 01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:41,600 James Bay or Windsor urban or rural it seems that the vast amount of properties 766 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:45,520 are the same. I know homelessness is not qu 767 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:49,600 problem for us, but we buy that service through Perth County buys it through 768 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:54,000 Straford. So, in a way, it affects us like it affects everybody else. And 769 01:11:51,760 --> 01:12:02,600 everybody is short on money for infrastructure and and again, it was it 770 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,600 was quite a work. 771 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:07,760 » Okay. Thank you, Jerry. >> Yes. said I almost forgot they attended 772 01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:11,920 the Moonlight Madness on behalf of the business association 773 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:16,560 presented the pillar of the community to uh in memory of Carly Schneider. So that 774 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:23,040 was accepted that night at the Moonlight Madness was happy to um present that. 775 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:28,239 » Okay. >> Sorry, just forgot one thing too. 776 01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:34,000 They were talking about the reassessment cycle and things like that and uh I 777 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:39,280 wouldn't hold my breath on that. They awful lot about fairness and uh uh it 778 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:47,520 seems like they were looking more towards uh industrial and commercial 779 01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:50,640 taxes, not other taxes. So, I just it didn't seem like they were they said 780 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:56,640 they were working on it, which I'm sure they are, but we all know that when the 781 01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:02,480 assessment happens, there's going to be quite a spike. And so, I'm sure they're 782 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:05,199 busy trying to figure out how to massage that. 783 01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:14,800 Okay. Anyone else? If not, uh, what do we need? We just We 784 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:21,760 receive the verbal reports for information. Moved by 785 01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:26,320 Q, second by Andrew. All in favor? Carried. 786 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:32,640 Okay, we're down to bylaws. We have uh one bylaw for first and second reading, 787 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:39,679 and that's by bylaw 212-2026. And that's a bylaw to amend uh 30-1999. 788 01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:43,280 And that was item 7.1.1 tonight. So I need a motion to receive 789 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:50,679 it for first and second reading. Moved by Amanda, second by Hugh. All in favor? 790 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:50,679 Carried. And then we 791 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,000 » addition. >> Oh, sorry. 792 01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,800 » They need to be added. >> Yeah. 793 01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:08,199 » Okay. So, we need to add the true uh drains that we did tonight and then do 794 01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:08,199 we have the numbers for them? 795 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:16,000 » 119 >> 119 and one and 120 796 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:20,480 » 2026 for both of them. So, we're going to add them to that. So, 797 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:24,560 » only first and second reading. And that was by Amanda and Hugh. All in favor of 798 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:30,400 that? Harry. Okay. And the drains in third. 799 01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:37,199 No. Okay. So third and final reading we have bylaw 205-2025 800 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:45,440 a bylaw to amend uh bylaw 30-1999 and that was 8.1.1 tonight bylaw 212 801 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:51,280 20226 bylaw to amend bylaw number 30-199 and that was 7.1.1 tonight and then the 802 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:55,520 third one is bylaw 103-2026 being a provisional bylaw for the 803 01:14:53,199 --> 01:15:00,400 Hawthorne municipal drain and that these bylaws be read a third and final 804 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:09,040 I need a move in a second. Moved by Bob, second by Jerry. All in favor? Carried. 805 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:15,800 Okay. Do we have any notice of motions? Any other business? 806 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,800 Any announcements? 807 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:23,120 » Oh, sorry, Amanda. >> Hi. Yes. Just wanted to put in a plug 808 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:29,040 for the Octopus Club of Ellis is hosting their sixth annual dinner in the country 809 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:36,000 smoked chop barbecue. It is Friday, September 18th from 5 to 6:30 at the 810 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:39,840 Rosstock Hall. Um they've been promoting it on Facebook, so you can get your 811 01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:44,640 tickets and they're always looking for volunteers to help um with the 812 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:49,440 drive-thru. So hope to see many of you there. 813 01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:52,640 Okay. Anyone else? Just on when we're talking about dinners, the twinning 814 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:58,159 committee is putting on a schnitle dinner on October the 1st here in 815 01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:01,280 Milbertton at the Perk, I believe. I'm not sure what time the supper is. I 816 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:05,199 don't want to I'll find that out for the next meeting, but tickets, you can get 817 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:10,800 tickets from Patrick Miner and I'm not sure who else has the tickets, but uh 818 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:14,400 it's going to be held and it's something 819 01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:18,080 different that we've never had. So, uh hopefully 820 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:22,159 I'm sure it will go well. So, just keep that in mind. I'll have more information 821 01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:26,320 at the next meeting. Okay. We do not have a need for a closed 822 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:31,120 session. We have no business in when we don't have a closed session. We have our 823 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:35,600 confirmatory bylaw. And we have a motion that bylaw 41-2026, 824 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,679 a bylaw to confirm the proceedings of council of the township of Perth East at 825 01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:46,800 its regular meeting held in September 1, 2026 be read at first, second, and third 826 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:51,360 time. Moved by Jeremy, second by Hugh. All in favor carried. And the last 827 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:56,960 motion of the night is that we adjourn at 8:07. 828 01:16:53,679 --> 01:17:04,040 Moved by Amanda, second by Harry. All in favor carried. Thanks everyone. Enjoy 829 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,040 the rest of your night. Bye.