1 00:02:05,870 --> 00:02:20,630 Again, so all here, we have some public as well, and we're moving right into an executive session for discussion of real property 1 and RSA 4056C. That is a motion, second. 2 00:02:21,610 --> 00:02:27,970 All those in favor to move into executive session. Thank you. Public, please leave the room. 3 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:34,100 Distrages, TLM, enterprises and ink, and we have abatement FY27-1, account 3067, FY2702, account 3043, and FY2703, account 3043, all signature abatement. 4 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:35,120 Thank you. 5 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,980 Did it say that probably? 6 00:11:36,540 --> 00:11:37,560 That is the motion. 7 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:37,960 Second. 8 00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:41,580 All those in favor signing off. 9 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:42,820 Thank you. 10 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,880 We'll do that at the end. 11 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:44,380 Okay? 12 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:44,620 Good. 13 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,380 Okay. 14 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:48,100 Moving on. 15 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,660 Have a two. 16 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,300 Sub the date for the special town meeting. 17 00:11:50,660 --> 00:11:51,300 Evan, please. 18 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,720 We have from Tammy. 19 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:54,960 Two days. 20 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:55,820 September. 21 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:00,520 There's days in September. 22 00:12:03,250 --> 00:12:07,410 We looked at the 17th of the 24th. 23 00:12:07,410 --> 00:12:08,890 whatever your pleasure. 24 00:12:09,010 --> 00:12:10,070 Nothing, Bill. 25 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:11,250 I know. 26 00:12:11,710 --> 00:12:12,230 No, fine. 27 00:12:12,650 --> 00:12:14,610 We end up in the month of the week on. 28 00:12:14,890 --> 00:12:16,810 The first week of the month. 29 00:12:17,270 --> 00:12:18,610 Yes, September the October. 30 00:12:19,050 --> 00:12:20,070 So, Monday or the year? 31 00:12:20,450 --> 00:12:21,450 Yeah, the next month. 32 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:21,830 Yeah, the next month. 33 00:12:22,370 --> 00:12:23,090 Let's do the 17. 34 00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:23,870 Okay. 35 00:12:24,490 --> 00:12:25,350 Works for me. 36 00:12:25,650 --> 00:12:26,070 Okay. 37 00:12:26,530 --> 00:12:29,710 Special town meeting is now dated for September 17. 38 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:30,490 All right. 39 00:12:31,170 --> 00:12:31,830 Sixth of all. 40 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:33,530 At the school. 41 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:33,830 Yep. 42 00:12:34,390 --> 00:12:35,110 Cross the street. 43 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:36,330 Welcome. 44 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:39,710 And okay, I'll set on that one. 45 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:43,950 We'll play it on the more either next week or the week after. 46 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:44,350 Perfect. 47 00:12:46,130 --> 00:12:46,650 Okay. 48 00:12:46,890 --> 00:12:51,730 Moving on to unfinished business, seeing none, moving on to Department and Committee reports. 49 00:12:52,270 --> 00:12:56,670 Elis Reed is currently available Tuesday and Thursdays from 2 to 5 for plumbing and 50 00:12:56,670 --> 00:13:02,170 septic permits, and John Bean is available on Fridays except for this week for a 51 00:13:02,170 --> 00:13:08,550 enforcement such building permits. And if you have anything else to do then please drop him an email 52 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:14,850 or leave him a voice mail and at least you'll get in the queue. That way. That's all I have. 53 00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:18,760 And they're both doing well getting caught up. So that's a nice thing. 54 00:13:19,450 --> 00:13:22,950 Okay. Guys, you all set? No. 55 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:27,810 For respondents being none, of course it's meeting in seminar. Back to you Evan. 56 00:13:27,810 --> 00:13:33,490 The Fibsburg Resilience Tour is August 22nd, which is this Saturday. 57 00:13:35,090 --> 00:13:40,890 Spinney's Restaurant from 9 to 10 30 AM, and the Community Garden from 1 to 230 PM. 58 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:44,490 It's the Climate Resilience Committee, I'm all with Gulf of Maine Research Institute. 59 00:13:45,390 --> 00:13:50,710 And, Tyler, I'm at Consulting, and we'll be delivering a talk and talking about the grant project 60 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:52,850 that the Climate Resilience Committee has been working on. 61 00:13:53,570 --> 00:13:54,130 Nice. 62 00:13:55,730 --> 00:14:00,490 Okay, moving on to administrator and select board comments and announcements. 63 00:14:00,870 --> 00:14:06,310 Seasonal tax payers meeting will be tonight 6pm at the fire department, so we'll see you shortly. 64 00:14:07,210 --> 00:14:14,830 And the short land zoning map update and ordinance amendment public hearing will be August 25th at 6pm at the 5th forgive memory school. 65 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:24,110 And as scheduled tonight, September 17th will be the special town meeting for the zoning map update and other orders. 66 00:14:30,510 --> 00:14:38,350 I just want to say that Charlotte zoning map update and ordinance amendments, please don't be scared of it. 67 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:50,690 The announcement came in the mail, those that didn't understand it, it caused the little anxiety, please don't be scared of it, it will be explained and why it's even being done at all. 68 00:14:50,690 --> 00:14:54,390 I'll try not to be too anxious about it, it will be explained. 69 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:59,890 And moving on to review and sign, payroll, and accounts, payable warrants. 70 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:16,540 Payroll order number 16 for 21,239 dollars, 20 cents, accounts payable more than 17, 73,371 dollars in 27 cents, and the select board meeting minutes from August the 12, 2020. 71 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:22,060 6. Make a motion that we signed, cost payable, or payroll, or it's just like board 72 00:15:22,060 --> 00:15:28,900 meeting minutes, as per second. All those in favor? Thank you. Let's get sign in. 73 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:29,700 I'm 74 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,360 going to send you a book for me. 75 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:52,700 I'm going to send you a book. 76 00:15:53,660 --> 00:15:53,820 I'm going to send you a book. 77 00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:54,300 You only need a book. 78 00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:56,520 I won't bother that. 79 00:15:57,020 --> 00:15:58,540 You could be sad. 80 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,480 But you don't know how to look at your contract. 81 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,080 It's kind of a sad story. 82 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:13,460 Do you? 83 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:16,940 So we're looking for some funding to just help us. 84 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:27,820 So what we had received for the time being, 85 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:29,640 we're going to be talking about that in a previous meeting. 86 00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:34,120 It's either 110,000, 120,000 for those two sites. 87 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:41,080 And I think we're going to be asking for somewhere between 20,000 and 25,000 from the 88 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,320 outer area of Chumd. 89 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:46,120 I will, yeah, 90 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,740 hoping to just get some more funding to help advance some of those road crossing 91 00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:53,340 projects. 92 00:18:56,950 --> 00:19:08,930 You know, yeah, the letter of support is just expressing, and I guess for this grant, it's a 93 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:12,930 Cal, it doesn't pull them down roads there, so it's important that we're 94 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:16,950 that any work that happens there is done in partnership with town to make sure 95 00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:19,210 that it's getting the town's needs in the city. 96 00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:20,950 I'm just expressing that. 97 00:19:21,010 --> 00:19:27,010 We'll continue working with others in town to help focus on those sites. 98 00:19:27,730 --> 00:19:29,250 What do you need from us? 99 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:30,650 I think just... 100 00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:31,410 Just the letters. 101 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:32,010 Just the letters. 102 00:19:34,910 --> 00:19:36,730 And I think you haven't been doing. 103 00:19:37,390 --> 00:19:39,890 So I'm going to make a motion on that. 104 00:19:40,030 --> 00:19:41,610 You're going to approve off-rise and meet 105 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:44,170 a sign of winner support, if you'd like me. 106 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:46,410 I'll make a motion that we 107 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,560 send a letter 108 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,500 to another school letter of support for the count 109 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,700 for the same day he'll rebuild. 110 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,540 I'll start doing that. 111 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:57,520 All those in favour? 112 00:20:00,420 --> 00:20:01,660 Thank you. 113 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,880 And possible. 114 00:20:03,220 --> 00:20:05,660 I need your student asking for a second letter of support 115 00:20:05,660 --> 00:20:06,980 for a selectly different project. 116 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:10,520 We with a grant proposal to you on August 31. 117 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:18,360 have a chance to talk to have it about this one yet. This is for currently a staff member 118 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:22,040 in summer team. The staff members have been working for the last few years in our summer team 119 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:28,760 summer. We've been doing prioritization and assessment of all of the title processing sites 120 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:38,200 in the ten towns where kelp cleveries with. And so, Kyler's assessment is really detailed GIS assessment 121 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:46,180 the 314 sites of the 10 towns where there are road crossings that are, or road or railroad 122 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:53,180 crossing, some of the tidal flow with a lot of information about like detour routes, houses 123 00:20:53,180 --> 00:20:58,500 cut off, while like benefits or impacts in other characteristics. 124 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:05,760 This summer we have a team that's doing some surfing, at some of the 30 sites across the region 125 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,920 to get some additional information to help push some other projects forward. 126 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:18,020 At the end of that, there will be two page fact sheets about a simple fact sheet, 127 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:21,220 summarizing the key information for the sites. 128 00:21:23,380 --> 00:21:26,340 And so that project wraps up end of this year. 129 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,520 We won't have a chance to really summarize the field data. 130 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:55,520 And so we're applying to an ecosystem program to support kind of the next stage, which will be figuring out how to make all of the features that we now have data about for all of those crossings, more accessible for everyone to see, and making that data more available, so it can be used with people who are looking at sites, also processing that field work data that we have. 131 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,460 So again, that could be really readily available for user processing sites. 132 00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:04,900 And then sharing the data we have with state programs like the Minko Superb Program and 133 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:10,780 others and the techniques that we've developed over the last couple years to other groups 134 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:12,560 that want to do this sort of prioritization. 135 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:17,480 So we are hoping 136 00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:24,410 to submit that application, and I think just to let our support from the 137 00:22:24,410 --> 00:22:29,530 expressing that the information is helpful in that you think that. 138 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Work is has some value of immigration and be appreciated. But in fitting with the emergency plan for our town, wouldn't it? 139 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,840 All of those crossings? 140 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:47,540 Well, we won't cross tonight. Is that just town roads, private roads, or state roads? 141 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:53,940 Data is on time and savings, we have, I guess the data is... 142 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:58,300 Data is for all the roads, we haven't done any field surveys at private roads. 143 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:02,300 Other than, um, rather snack we did do just as fast. 144 00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:08,540 Yeah, there's a lot of habitat upstream from that we're interested in, and that does cut folks off. 145 00:23:09,380 --> 00:23:13,260 So that kind of grows up relatively high on our list of potential sites. 146 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:19,700 I'll do that with most, any of our fieldwork I think has been on tell me about the 147 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:20,980 town roads, yeah. 148 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,680 And state roads, I mean, and see this. 149 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,640 We did a little bit on like, oh, I guess. 150 00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:27,500 What down at small point? 151 00:23:27,580 --> 00:23:28,500 What down at small point? 152 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Yeah, that's the same road that. 153 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,280 They actually have been doing some studies on that, they believe across the 154 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,100 causeway down there. 155 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:38,480 Yeah. 156 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,140 I was just wondering if that was part of the study that you guys were looking into. 157 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:44,320 because I know the state is- 158 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,280 They did get some data. 159 00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:46,020 I didn't know. 160 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:46,500 I don't know. 161 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,740 If you heard, if the last I heard it was sore, then there were a band that put it in a 162 00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:51,040 two foot. 163 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:51,780 I don't know. 164 00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:52,040 Yeah. 165 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:54,180 There was something in the works. 166 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:54,800 Okay. 167 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,840 And I don't know what it is exactly. 168 00:23:57,220 --> 00:24:03,140 And then the other one, the other state, the other project that they had proposed about was 169 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,340 down the problemarge. 170 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,640 Yeah. 171 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:07,460 You know, they could be it. 172 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,060 Said that they actually wrote us and asked about using 173 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:18,080 Park a head road as a detour during the time in which when they were. 174 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,340 They might have been right before I got here. 175 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,240 It was something. 176 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:22,060 We're constructing that. 177 00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:24,820 And we had heard nothing else from them. 178 00:24:24,820 --> 00:24:25,500 It's a lot of time. 179 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:26,080 I don't have anything on it. 180 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,360 I don't have anything on it. 181 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:27,820 I don't have anything on it. 182 00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:28,660 I don't have anything on it. 183 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:30,680 Because that road does flood with you. 184 00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:32,110 There's an extreme high tide or. 185 00:24:34,780 --> 00:24:35,200 There's. 186 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,300 And that makes it very difficult for anybody from pop them to get out because. 187 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,520 It's not going to solve it. 188 00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:42,480 No, no. 189 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,100 But when they were doing the rebuild on it, 190 00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:46,960 they had asked for an alternate route. 191 00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:49,920 And they would help us maintain our guide road 192 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,940 for the extra traffic that we've caused. 193 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:54,800 That's a part of it. 194 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,840 But we hadn't heard anything back from that one. 195 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,640 That's why I didn't know if this was part of that study or not. 196 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:03,600 You know, just kind of getting more information. 197 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:07,560 More information for the towns and others to have. 198 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,600 But less, not focused on design yet. 199 00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:13,960 Sort of the sort of data can go into design. 200 00:25:15,580 --> 00:25:18,380 So is there any reason for us to not support? 201 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,860 No, you're not allowed to. 202 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:21,240 Mm-hmm. 203 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:21,660 OK. 204 00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:27,080 Motion for a letter of support for grant proposal number two, 205 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:28,600 as presented by the milk cow. 206 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:29,940 There's no match. 207 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,360 No, I don't. 208 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,500 Perfect, we're two words. 209 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,700 But that's not what I, you know, I'll second that. 210 00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:39,820 Oh, discussion done? 211 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,300 Yeah. 212 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,600 No, those are favorite. 213 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:43,400 Thank you. 214 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,040 And good luck. 215 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,240 Thank you very much. 216 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,660 You'll send me something. 217 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:47,840 I thought about that. 218 00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:48,900 What about you? 219 00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:49,580 Cool. 220 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:50,340 Thanks. 221 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,180 Thank you. 222 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,100 Okay, Jen. 223 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,560 So, once you go next. 224 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:56,320 Call the phone. 225 00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:57,700 Nothing. 226 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,260 Peter, you're up? 227 00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:00,480 Oh. 228 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:02,000 No, we have to wait for Peter. 229 00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:02,780 Oh, yeah. 230 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,180 He's under the open. 231 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:05,400 He's under the other head. 232 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:05,940 Okay. 233 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:07,680 Anyone else the public form? 234 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:11,440 Motion. 235 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,540 We go to executive session. 236 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:14,640 Part of one MRSA 406A. 237 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,660 The personnel matter. 238 00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:17,220 Sorry. 239 00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:20,660 All those in favor of moving on to executive session. 240 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,060 Will we be making any decisions? 241 00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:23,660 Possibly. 242 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Okay. 243 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:28,020 We will be coming back out of executive session. 244 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:29,980 It's actually going back on camera. 245 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:31,820 Stay tuned. 246 00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:33,680 Good night. 247 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,180 Thank you. 248 00:45:58,700 --> 00:46:04,040 Folks, we're not going to make any other decisions tonight, so we are entertaining a motion for adjournment. 249 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,900 Make a motion to adjourn. 250 00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:07,320 Sorry. 251 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,660 All those of the paper. 252 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:09,880 Good night. 253 00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:10,760 See you next door. 254 01:02:01,490 --> 01:02:04,990 A quorum, one member, abstain, but a quorum, is three. 255 01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:16,690 Considering the number of people we have, we will take the minutes of the last two, three meetings and put them at the end instead of going to a mail. 256 01:02:16,690 --> 01:02:23,150 So we're interpreting the new item number three, which is in person, I can't excuse 257 01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:23,910 me, Devon. 258 01:02:24,430 --> 01:02:33,110 36 Park ahead row, map 7, 1, 12, represented by Mike Mars, of La Ficcola Yoke 12, and this 259 01:02:33,110 --> 01:02:46,670 is continuation from July 14 and 8, 11, side row, construction of equipment here with the 260 01:02:46,670 --> 01:02:57,470 What if I didn't spend the design from application 2024-10, it was committed on April 9, 2024? 261 01:02:58,790 --> 01:03:10,730 And we had just come back from the site walk, so I think we can dive right in and go right to Mr. Moss and he can lead us off. 262 01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:18,090 There you go. Very good. Thank you Madam Chair. Madam, this is the board. I'm 263 01:03:18,090 --> 01:03:22,950 like more here on behalf of Rick and Chris Adam. Property owner is a 36-part 264 01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:30,470 or head row of your Pittsburgh year to on their behalf regarding their specifically their 265 01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:31,250 peer application. 266 01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:37,110 And I'll just run through, there are a few changes since the last meeting. 267 01:03:37,110 --> 01:03:40,930 And I'd just like to wrap through a few of those points 268 01:03:40,930 --> 01:03:44,750 for the director for the planning boards benefit. 269 01:03:45,890 --> 01:03:49,770 As you mentioned, Marie, the planning board issued a permit 270 01:03:49,770 --> 01:03:53,950 for peer project on its property on April 9th, 2024. 271 01:03:54,790 --> 01:03:59,070 That was for a peer that had a three foot light input 272 01:03:59,070 --> 01:04:04,230 upland access ramp, but 245 foot line peer, 273 01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:11,550 200 feet of which was 3 feet in width and 45 feet in which the outboard will call it 274 01:04:11,550 --> 01:04:19,350 45 feet was 3.5 feet in width. Also included in that approval by the board was a 275 01:04:19,350 --> 01:04:27,110 3-foot-like 45-foot season of ramp leading to an 8-by-12 and 10-by-20 season of float configuration. 276 01:04:27,970 --> 01:04:34,590 The project was also being reviewed at that time by the main DEP, and typical main DEP fashion, 277 01:04:35,070 --> 01:04:40,310 not the knock for the DEP too badly, but with respect to timing, they took absolutely 278 01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:43,650 private review of this, like they're doing pretty much every project. 279 01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:51,250 They issued their approval on October 20, and October 20, 25, included a copy of their approval 280 01:04:51,250 --> 01:04:55,890 order and a packet that we recently sent to the board members. 281 01:04:55,890 --> 01:05:06,990 The problem is the Plainy Board permit, one of the problems is Plainy Board permits expired in April of 2025, so months prior to the EDU confirm. 282 01:05:10,810 --> 01:05:22,690 On May 20, 26, this year we submitted an application for the guidance to for a peer for a peer on their property. 283 01:05:22,690 --> 01:05:29,390 And there are several changes from the original gear that was approved by the Plain Award in 2024. 284 01:05:29,870 --> 01:05:31,730 One of the changes was the location. 285 01:05:32,110 --> 01:05:37,770 The location shifted from more centrally located on the line in front of the house 286 01:05:37,770 --> 01:05:44,970 to a suddenly direction approximately 52 feet from the property of the suddenly property line. 287 01:05:45,710 --> 01:05:50,390 The reason for that is the main DEP, main department of inland fisheries, 288 01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:58,770 wildlife during D.P.'s review, determine that that would be less impactful to the salt 289 01:05:58,770 --> 01:06:02,630 marsh habitat for several reasons that I'd be happy to discuss. 290 01:06:03,770 --> 01:06:08,510 We talked about some of these at the site market as well. 291 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:17,730 So in our May 20th application to the board, it was considered a June the new project, new 292 01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:22,690 application of the board, included not up three, four or three and a half foot wide 293 01:06:22,690 --> 01:06:25,550 peer, but we widen that to five feet. 294 01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:31,870 And it's in this new location as described by D.P. or established by D.P. 295 01:06:31,870 --> 01:06:32,670 Inficional Wildlife. 296 01:06:33,690 --> 01:06:39,370 The purpose was to accommodate some family members that were confined to either a wheelchair 297 01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:41,790 or a similar mobility device. 298 01:06:42,930 --> 01:06:49,250 And it was deemed to be necessary, imagine trying to turn a wheelchair around on a three-foot 299 01:06:49,570 --> 01:06:52,250 gear, or even a three-and-a-half-foot life gear. 300 01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:54,250 It's just, it's not possible. 301 01:06:55,310 --> 01:06:57,690 So we propose a five-foot gear. 302 01:06:59,930 --> 01:07:07,010 And one of the other changes in that application was to widen the vents, the pure vents, in order 303 01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:12,490 to widen the spacing, the lateral spacing between the helical angles that support the 304 01:07:12,490 --> 01:07:17,490 piles coming down from the pier. The same number of pier events, the same number of helical 305 01:07:17,490 --> 01:07:23,910 angles, all the same, it's just a couple feet wider, a two feet wider, effectively, to 306 01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:29,930 get better spacing and spacing that would satisfy the manufacturer's specimen. 307 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,700 Thank you for these types of soils. 308 01:07:34,940 --> 01:07:45,560 The there have been several changes we've discussed with the applicants several times since the last meeting. 309 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:55,000 How to move forward with the application, particularly given some changes in their family situation with some of the folks of mobility issues, unfortunately. 310 01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:05,020 And some other comments, you know, we've heard the boards be back, we heard feedback from some of the neighbors, and so we've 311 01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:16,380 submitted a revised application, some revised application material. There was all sent to the individual board members, including full-size scale drawings. 312 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:35,580 And essentially what that revision includes is a scaling back at the project, back to what was effectively, mostly what was originally proposed or approved by the planning board back in 2024. 313 01:08:37,220 --> 01:08:42,020 The two exceptions, two obvious exceptions include the different location. 314 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,320 It's now at the location, the DP, and the main fish and wildlife. 315 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:54,040 The two leading, two of the leading environmental expert agencies here in the state. 316 01:08:54,540 --> 01:08:59,840 It's determined to be the best location for the peer, the least impact to the salt marsh, etc. 317 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:06,540 So it's the new location, and then the second change is the old original approval included 318 01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:13,040 a narrower, the narrower vents, and we're going to continue to keep those at the with previously 319 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,660 proposed. 320 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:20,540 So a couple feet wider, you know, a comedy, the structural issue that was, it came off with 321 01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:26,160 the closed spacing of the helical anchors and the original design. 322 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:35,460 So that's the proposal before you're now and with that there's a discussion at the last meeting about the height of the structure. 323 01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:52,740 The state recommends or effectively requires a peer-be-elevated lease at a one and a half-the-one ratio with height to allow for better sunlight penetration and reduce straining. 324 01:09:52,740 --> 01:10:01,880 better sunlight penetration beneath the peer to allow for vegetation that continue to grow grow well. 325 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:14,920 And so the original proposal with a five-foot wide peer surface was going to obviously be elevated at 7.5 feet at the lowest point. 326 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:20,140 And then at the far end of the peer, the peer head, it was going to be about 12 feet, 327 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,080 nice above the substrate. 328 01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:29,480 At this point, with the reduction in the width of the peer, we're also able to lower that. 329 01:10:30,420 --> 01:10:35,080 So now we're essentially lowered by three feet on both ends. 330 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,920 So the peer height will be approximately seven and a half feet on the landward end. 331 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:49,300 Yeah, no, I'm sorry, four to half feet on the landlord hand and it will equate to about 332 01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:55,840 nine feet of the gear head. So it's drawn quite a bit on account of that. 333 01:10:56,660 --> 01:11:04,890 The talk about this stability issue with the heel of the anchors, heel of the piles, 334 01:11:05,310 --> 01:11:10,670 rather, contractor was unwilling to construct that for live the linear reasons to tell 335 01:11:10,670 --> 01:11:12,990 is what's prone to failure, 336 01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:16,050 and the spacing that's 337 01:11:16,050 --> 01:11:20,570 stopped the post with a helicole anchor or helicopiles is 338 01:11:20,570 --> 01:11:22,670 split in the manufacturer's specifications. 339 01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:26,050 So five post spacing, helicopiles, helicopiles. 340 01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:31,010 The peer decking will also now be solid planks 341 01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:34,310 as originally approved by the planning board and DEP 342 01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:38,950 with one quarter inch spacing between the boards. 343 01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:47,150 You may recall, we previously proposed with a wider peer to have a perforated deafening 344 01:11:47,150 --> 01:11:50,570 surface to help with sunlight penetration. 345 01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:57,310 Frankly, in conversation I had with a DP manager, she indicated that she didn't feel 346 01:11:57,310 --> 01:11:58,650 like that was going to make any difference. 347 01:11:59,490 --> 01:12:01,470 Why not just go back to the regular planning. 348 01:12:03,150 --> 01:12:08,550 down a hardware master approved the location of the peer and a letter dated June and second 349 01:12:09,790 --> 01:12:10,450 2026. 350 01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:20,390 And so essentially we're seeking approval from the planning work for something very close 351 01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:25,870 to the original approval that was issued by the board in a different location and with 352 01:12:25,870 --> 01:12:28,670 that are slightly lighter. 353 01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:34,830 So that said, we feel that we've provided sufficient information and evidence to the board 354 01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:38,890 to make positive findings into approval project. 355 01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:43,710 We respectfully request that the board consider that. 356 01:12:44,370 --> 01:12:47,650 And if it agrees, then we request that the board approve the project. 357 01:12:48,670 --> 01:12:50,990 Here are for any questions if you happen to have any. 358 01:12:51,890 --> 01:12:53,130 Thank you. 359 01:12:53,410 --> 01:12:53,650 Questions? 360 01:12:53,650 --> 01:12:54,450 That's 361 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:04,600 what this was so much that we thought about the real impact analysis to the state. 362 01:13:06,260 --> 01:13:12,180 And you also hear the documentation, the official outline, which we had time to write previously. 363 01:13:13,020 --> 01:13:16,020 So think about it, would you put that to the table at this time? 364 01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:18,880 Yeah, yeah. I agree basically. 365 01:13:20,660 --> 01:13:20,840 Yeah. 366 01:13:36,230 --> 01:13:36,770 Thank 367 01:13:40,060 --> 01:13:41,120 you all for your time. 368 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,240 My name is Joshua B. I'm the applicant's advisor to the North. 369 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,830 I have lived in what was my grandmother with Dex home on Cranberry Point Road for 31 years. 370 01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:55,000 I have my life and has to love her summers enjoyed here. 371 01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:02,480 I will be ex-Suzmerics to be freely and honestly about the background of this history of this land and the Southlications process today. 372 01:14:03,420 --> 01:14:11,440 I will readjust this for development actions today, and specify these applicant shortfalls and satisfying your requirements to build such a structure to begin with in Fibsburg. 373 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,340 And keep it from ever coming back again. 374 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:23,200 This proposed project would have been put to rest by the start of 2024 at the board of the 400 cities, please bear with me. 375 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,040 For a brief background, I was appointed to this planning award in the late 90s and served 376 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:33,400 of the full member and alternate until a few years ago when I voluntarily vacated the 377 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,920 position for reasons I have to have no reason to explain here. 378 01:14:38,980 --> 01:14:43,840 My family and family friends, the Hankinson, has defined this parcel map seven locked 379 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,200 well, not to purchase any of the CVs in the early 1980s. 380 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:57,220 The Hankinson family took the incredible views, and the level and billable, large open field acreage, and pond, the body, their property, and parker bedroom. 381 01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,960 Our family took the deep waterfront. 382 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:23,440 We both ended up with a lot of march. Since the course of my family ended up with was nearly entirely march, and had it almost not existing building in a boat with the 250 foot setbacks of the era. Another laylock parcel was cut from a lot 12, which is now the richest home at 37 Cranberry Fundra. 383 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:30,200 The waterfront portion of this parcel was specifically and thoughtfully divided to give 384 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:36,300 the result of the locked well, the gorgeous level field landscape, pond, and the views 385 01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:38,260 of putting the hangings in the land. 386 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,780 The locked 1.01, the long existing river access view button. 387 01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:45,620 That is how these two waterfront bonds came to be. 388 01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:51,040 I have a few issues regarding this process today for me to be addressed on the record. 389 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:59,580 The April 2024 permit issued the act in spot this board was approved in ten minutes with little scrutiny or due diligence and a lot of knowledge 390 01:15:59,580 --> 01:16:04,040 if anyone did not follow closely with planning boards to pretend this. 391 01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:11,820 I had to view that 2024 planning board meetings, recording a line as part of my due diligence on this matter, and it was a irony. 392 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:18,620 When asked by the board, if there should be concern in the ice and carry the structure down and stringing the act, 393 01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:20,040 I certainly hope not. 394 01:16:20,260 --> 01:16:22,960 That is one risk with all dogs that you put out there. 395 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,660 The board was assured that if anything were to happen, 396 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,380 his guess was, quote, that you might see some damage 397 01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:32,540 to the end section, and it was snap off sectional. 398 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,600 So something were to happen, you might lose the last section. 399 01:16:37,970 --> 01:16:41,210 Without the appropriate soil required by our shoreland zoning 400 01:16:41,210 --> 01:16:43,830 ordinance, the solution such as the proposed 401 01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:46,270 heatable anchors might be acceptable elsewhere. 402 01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:56,090 But not fixed for it. We require appropriate soil. That alone should have been the end of the discussion on this matter in 2024, done in Bustle. 403 01:16:57,050 --> 01:17:07,330 Basically, if the fuel tanker does not hit bedrock, the entire structure is both held up and anchored down by the vegetation that mud and maybe compact it or can't come out of it. 404 01:17:08,890 --> 01:17:13,810 Even if it does hit bedrock, the structure will remain anchored down, open by the marsh grass and the mud. 405 01:17:14,370 --> 01:17:20,530 The applicant's engine here having obtained two docked approvals in this first ten minutes before the board enabled 2024. 406 01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:25,670 It was done presenting this applicant's proposed project in another five and a half minutes. 407 01:17:26,510 --> 01:17:29,910 The skill of this project was exponentially larger than its previous applications. 408 01:17:31,850 --> 01:17:37,110 At that point, the chair asks if there are any questions, silence, a minute later the chair asks again, 409 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:42,470 Remember, replied, after this past winter, I hope you've gotten out of elevation there. 410 01:17:43,290 --> 01:17:48,490 With all this stuff that comes down on the river, I realized this all March, but 411 01:17:48,490 --> 01:17:56,410 running down the checklist for that 2024 application, planning board apparently proved the application based on the information presented verbally only. 412 01:17:57,210 --> 01:18:03,710 The board found for us proposed use, would for example protect the known historic research sources, 413 01:18:03,710 --> 01:18:06,410 designated in the comprehensive plan. 414 01:18:06,610 --> 01:18:11,250 None known was the official finding, nothing to protect you. 415 01:18:12,030 --> 01:18:14,610 This project was in a calm, no-mind house. 416 01:18:15,730 --> 01:18:19,070 The historic 1774 in, as it is called, 417 01:18:19,210 --> 01:18:21,150 on the very list of the largest submitted. 418 01:18:22,050 --> 01:18:24,850 This is the most prominent home of a national register 419 01:18:24,850 --> 01:18:26,890 of historic places in Fibsburg. 420 01:18:28,030 --> 01:18:29,790 The main part of the environmental protection 421 01:18:29,790 --> 01:18:35,470 approved the AFP is 2023 National Resource Protection Act application. 422 01:18:36,210 --> 01:18:40,050 This board note is specifically boxed off CIME-20 section. 423 01:18:40,830 --> 01:18:43,110 It states based on the information submitted. 424 01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:50,570 I have concluded that there will be no historic properties affected by the proposed entertainment 425 01:18:50,570 --> 01:18:56,170 as defined by section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. 426 01:18:57,490 --> 01:19:05,830 Section 1 of six dictates, I'm going to read twice once without parentheses and once with part of the parentheses. 427 01:19:06,650 --> 01:19:17,510 Love parentheses, debates, review must consider the action's potential direct and indirect effects to restore properties in the area of potential effects. 428 01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:26,270 What they define as indirect effects are introduction of modern intrusions to the view shed of the resource, 429 01:19:26,850 --> 01:19:31,950 such as the modern, such as the addition of modern facility and historic districts, 430 01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:34,750 or other impacts to the sea and the values of the resource. 431 01:19:38,540 --> 01:19:41,980 The lack of due diligence is not a malady that they also only are playing more. 432 01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:44,560 The historic impact could have been represented by the applicant, 433 01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:46,960 but the list of the funders never saw eyes. 434 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:53,640 The first listed resolution by federal standards for handling such potential effects upon 435 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,360 historically significant assets is denied a request. 436 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,160 The R4 engineers also approved the app in 2023 application for this proposal. 437 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,080 Prior to that approval starts, based on the information you provided, be verified 438 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,480 in the activity law firm on the government. 439 01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:16,960 These agencies can only make determination based on the information that the applicant provides. 440 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:22,740 The obligation to protect the actor and the information was not respected by the applicant. 441 01:20:23,940 --> 01:20:28,640 The sport has been protected to avoid it to protect this town and shoreline. 442 01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:33,300 For larger agencies, Mr. Rooka Malice, the board should possess and utilize. 443 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,280 We should be able to rely on this local board to scrutinize materials presented by applicants 444 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,880 and apply the basic powers to the board possesses. 445 01:20:42,340 --> 01:20:46,800 The United World Law and the Board for those things in 2024, moreover, later. 446 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:52,300 The Shualan Zoning, the board and its top requirement, that quote of access from Shualar 447 01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:58,180 shall be developed on the soil's appropriate for such use, is there to protect our mortality 448 01:20:58,180 --> 01:21:00,500 Shualan from exactly this kind of development? 449 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,440 This basic requirement was mystery ignored by the board of 2024. 450 01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:09,960 The applicant's current submission and the two products nearly addressed the rest of the 451 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:16,120 ordinance after an hand regarding construction damage and erosion control. Nobody missed 452 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:22,280 this sneaky omission that they didn't address the first part of the ordinance only after the 453 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:29,520 hand. The soil profile assault marsh can't in no way be classified as appropriate soils 454 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,340 ability anything. The heal of Lancers proposed here are an alternative for structures where 455 01:21:35,340 --> 01:21:39,020 there exists no appropriate sort of. 456 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,480 All full of an April 2024, the applicant's engineer had approval vote for the board of 457 01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:49,380 this proposed project in 10 minutes. 20 minutes for three approval is passed. It's too fast. 458 01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:54,180 The due diligence requires more detail review and the dearest present by applicants in the 459 01:21:54,180 --> 01:21:55,660 board mustard in 2024. 460 01:21:57,100 --> 01:22:02,500 Curiously, at that age of 2020, I was a blatant breach of Title 30 named by statute 461 01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:07,980 section 26 of Bob, which requires a member of the board to frame the mother laws attempting 462 01:22:07,980 --> 01:22:11,140 to influence the decision in which that official has interest. 463 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:16,720 At that meeting, his casualty can know for a sitting board member to openly represent another 464 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,300 applicant for this board on a different application. 465 01:22:20,260 --> 01:22:23,520 But application was proved or never paid cash. 466 01:22:24,140 --> 01:22:28,660 As the main municipal association manuals local training boards puts it, 467 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:29,900 while it would not be a reason. 468 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:47,140 And we'll turn this law out as prohibiting a board member from staying and stepping down as a board member to present his or her own application to the board. It probably does prohibit a board member, including all the members, representing another applicant who is seeking board approval for some other parties to proceed. 469 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:56,560 A board member has represented other parties before the board as well. That form, again and again. The video record of the 2020 for meeting was valuable. 470 01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:02,100 demonstrating how routine deviations from the normal two-delage processes on applications 471 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:08,500 can develop a culture and pattern of mistakes and long-term, resulting in damage being forced 472 01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:11,900 through very short timeframes by such an attribute. 473 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:18,280 That's unacceptable as it is an appropriate representation of applicants by the board. 474 01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:24,300 By any reasonable measure, this Board of Health probably prepared for this application of 2024 475 01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:28,920 here and thereby failed to protect our historic resources in rural character and 476 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,420 redirected by our ordinances. 477 01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:36,620 The community's portion of this product, this proposed project, was kicked back to the 478 01:23:36,620 --> 01:23:42,340 board for reconsideration this year, and that someone happened to see it and carry on to 479 01:23:42,340 --> 01:23:43,080 speed out. 480 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:47,380 It would literally be on the construction right now on our lives. 481 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,540 No update on the status of the June meeting minutes, which were based on the St. 482 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,160 in the 40 minutes, which we received by the Board's Assistant. 483 01:23:56,260 --> 01:23:59,260 The Board's parent refusal to consider my request to correct that 484 01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:03,560 for a test-in-day record clearly based on the St. in the 40 minutes, 485 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,680 the only reflect poorly on the support of my son. 486 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,900 But anyone watching the June meeting of the obvious 487 01:24:10,900 --> 01:24:15,940 this application may likely have improved about being nearly as fast and loosely as 488 01:24:15,940 --> 01:24:22,000 had 2024, have I not attended? I applied for a building permit in late May and found 489 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:27,740 out this major project that had been previously mistakenly improved was being considered 490 01:24:27,740 --> 01:24:33,280 the next two days. Early in the June discussion, the applicant commented that the 491 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:40,240 the way he looked on anchor spacing previously proved that I've been at 36 inches, but that 492 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:47,940 for quote, soft soil like that, in quote, experienced professional set 36 inches was too close. 493 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:54,520 After the applicant was finished presenting their information at the June meeting, one board 494 01:24:54,520 --> 01:25:00,220 member stated, I just sort of assumed it was just another warf that was within our warden's 495 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:06,300 The board chair decided what she said were reasons the application could be approved. 496 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:12,480 She stated that the other agencies didn't respond in time for the permit issued in 2024 not the last. 497 01:25:13,180 --> 01:25:16,900 She stated the change was made for the result of a patient and it's another patient. 498 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,620 The DP and Army Corps approvals were not in hand. 499 01:25:22,220 --> 01:25:25,840 So the board chair said they could issue approval with other agencies blessings. 500 01:25:26,380 --> 01:25:30,260 and it would be the applicant's burden to obtain all approval to be for a building permit 501 01:25:30,260 --> 01:25:36,320 commission. Whoever says no stops at the shares to me, I'm sure they can get them 502 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,880 approval. We approve these all the time. It looks great straightforward to me, but I would defer 503 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:47,940 it mark Mr. Hawks. He has this stuff better than I, I remember said. Mr. Hawks 504 01:25:47,940 --> 01:25:54,700 became the usual way of repair and greatly considered reusable. A member of what's concerned 505 01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:58,500 of the amount of grant and peer that was proposed to go across the launch. 506 01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:04,260 Another member stated that you looked at the highest annual tides, we came back there. 507 01:26:04,940 --> 01:26:10,420 A member of WISC concerns about peer and tides, was interrupted when she was saying, 508 01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:16,160 that kind of concerns me, that much, and chinardar up didn't say, yeah, there's an explanation 509 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:20,300 in there in the written part of the application package. 510 01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:27,020 So my participation, my participation in the June meeting minutes, comes after a bold 511 01:26:27,020 --> 01:26:27,680 notice. 512 01:26:29,480 --> 01:26:30,700 Bold notice says no. 513 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,960 At 55 to 58, a technical issue accounts reporting twice occurred, ending the video 514 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:40,000 recording of this meeting and the timestamps that are remainder of these minutes. 515 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:46,420 Immediately following that note, the conclusion of this matter on June minutes stay. 516 01:26:46,420 --> 01:26:53,800 Joshua Bate and a butter spoken opposition in the application provided colored photographs of the shoreline involved. 517 01:26:54,540 --> 01:26:58,820 The board schedule was site-wall, which was July 14th. 518 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,280 So, the record states that I was there, I injected and I provided some colored pictures 519 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,420 and the board schedule was site-wall. 520 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,220 I pointed out that the damn recording didn't end at 55th or 58th, 521 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,240 but was intermittent to the rest of the media. 522 01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:18,660 We requested the Board more accurately record the details of my participation in line of the recording about ending. 523 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:29,940 The Board would rather allow a record to stand, also indicating to all of them they would use this case in the future that there is nothing to see beyond the incorrect recording that it is stated. 524 01:27:30,860 --> 01:27:36,480 There is no worse the reason the record could not be corrected other than the Board's bias against my contribution. 525 01:27:37,940 --> 01:27:39,740 Here's what really happened. 526 01:27:40,780 --> 01:27:42,140 This is a high insight now. 527 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:43,780 Let's go through it. 528 01:27:44,140 --> 01:27:46,320 At 5745, a recording machine. 529 01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:49,480 I was granted permission from the board to speak. 530 01:27:50,180 --> 01:27:52,280 Much of what I had to say was important. 531 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,060 I don't believe I ever did even object actually. 532 01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:57,980 At that, you meeting. 533 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,620 I shared that no-abunders were notified of any stage of this process. 534 01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:06,240 I provided pictures and pointed out the shoreline 535 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:11,080 proposed project. I sent a few of you on stable, and I'm sure that I'm receiving it 536 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:16,560 unpredictable. I suggest the site wall. I pointed out the proposed project and refused 537 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:22,940 the designated VISTA in this task comprehensive plan. I referenced historic sites affected by 538 01:28:22,940 --> 01:28:27,380 the proposed project. I questioned how a permanent grant would remain across the designated 539 01:28:27,380 --> 01:28:32,660 senior VISTA even if no float were installed in the future. I questioned the height of the 540 01:28:32,660 --> 01:28:34,400 at seven and a half feet, minimum. 541 01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:39,800 I stated I knew little about the screwing anchors, but was curious as to how they might 542 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,000 handle the volume of ice that can form on the surface of the marsh. 543 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:48,680 I pointed out that the E.P. or I'm poor, and here's the proofless we had granted. 544 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,000 I stated I wasn't trying to keep anyone from the water, but this proposal was inappropriate 545 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,240 and an approval shouldn't be rushed. 546 01:28:58,550 --> 01:29:04,910 Now, should record reflect that I only objective and provide it in public photographs. 547 01:29:08,420 --> 01:29:10,760 That's what happened and it stands recorded. 548 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:16,500 I believe the minutes the sport refuses to lend or grossly, but firstly, we protestly 549 01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:18,380 vague record of what transpired. 550 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,460 Two, any reasonable person, for anyone's participation in your junior meeting, 551 01:29:24,460 --> 01:29:28,340 be vaguely characterized, is throwing a big fit. 552 01:29:31,300 --> 01:29:36,080 When a reasonable person characterizes anyone's conduct or the force, 553 01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,320 the resultant action that you're doing meeting, 554 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,080 as someone making such a state that forced this board 555 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,740 to schedule the July site walk. 556 01:29:46,980 --> 01:29:49,560 Do the board advise any person that you're meeting 557 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,840 with the scheduled July 14th site walk 558 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:59,820 anything but how to proceed, and that. Therefore, I'd like to reflect the reports. 559 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,740 Statements made by the applicant at the July sidewalk, stating I was advised that you two meeting, not to attend that sidewalk, would have been false and falsely attributed to this board. 560 01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:19,620 As for any statement, under by the applicant's mischaracterizing, anyone's participation or conduct during your due meeting is anything other than curiously said. 561 01:30:22,050 --> 01:30:32,050 In fact, quite ironically, it's now the applicant who is typically front of the fit and made such a statement of the board was forced to escape into a second-site law today. 562 01:30:33,370 --> 01:30:38,530 The applicant repeated their refusal to allow peaceful butter to attend today as well. 563 01:30:39,710 --> 01:30:47,590 Before the intermediate intermitancy, due in the court in length again, the applicant stated about the peer's height. 564 01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:49,490 So that's seven and a half feet. 565 01:30:49,690 --> 01:30:52,410 That's a DEP requirement to minimize the impact of shading. 566 01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:55,370 Ideally, I'd like to have it closer to the ground, 567 01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:57,190 but that's to meet their requirements. 568 01:30:58,030 --> 01:31:00,810 As if the DEP was making them build at five feet wide. 569 01:31:01,530 --> 01:31:03,910 There were a month away from admitting this was going to be 570 01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:05,850 11 feet high minimum at the river. 571 01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:09,570 By the way, it's been now limited and imaginary 572 01:31:09,570 --> 01:31:11,010 five foot width need. 573 01:31:12,250 --> 01:31:15,410 The applicant's engineer recently rebuked my gene comments. 574 01:31:15,670 --> 01:31:16,670 Among his comments, 575 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:23,200 We got to get a stable shoreline, you said, that doesn't have anything to do with this application. 576 01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:32,840 And so far as we are not proposing a shoreline, shoreline stabilization project, we are proposing a Peter Rand float. 577 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:39,460 I would roll up one of the two images from the zoom in, this is the same. 578 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,080 More than one piece. 579 01:31:44,340 --> 01:31:44,920 No worries. 580 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,080 Here's one of the two things. 581 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:57,580 Okay. 582 01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:10,420 Two images right before, and the app page has been to the site. 583 01:32:10,700 --> 01:32:14,820 And I believe there is this sort of erosion on the location where the pier is. 584 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:20,800 It's pretty well suited for peer-laptation, while some included a picture. 585 01:32:22,700 --> 01:32:29,660 So here, there's a flag, this is taking yesterday, this is a flag, this is a short line. 586 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,280 There's the last flag on that, right? 587 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,960 This is a pretty short line. 588 01:32:33,380 --> 01:32:35,700 Very well suited for peer-laptation. 589 01:32:38,060 --> 01:32:42,700 After dismissing ice damage concerns more delicately than in 2024, 590 01:32:42,700 --> 01:32:44,600 and engineer was finished. 591 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:51,700 A board member expressed that, with that long and rampant concerns about 592 01:32:51,700 --> 01:32:55,080 its wetlands and aquatic light and marine light and biologist-like, 593 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,380 would be used to flood-playing management, but also with concern, 594 01:33:00,420 --> 01:33:02,720 Mr. Officer believed that one of the items on their mind 595 01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:06,160 even in fact checklist were addressed to any of this. 596 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,840 The conference of plan and what happened. 597 01:33:09,860 --> 01:33:12,240 Nothing of that checklist is addressed to seeming to this. 598 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,880 It's the only historical consideration of the problems of plan, directly. 599 01:33:26,180 --> 01:33:28,060 I have the agenda that you need 600 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,940 to discuss rescheduled dates for a post-colonial 601 01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:39,240 public hearing for the 1774, and it took well over ten minutes of which several minutes 602 01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:44,760 of discussion were about details, and board members opinion about fences and plantings 603 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:49,100 and headlights on this person's application before a date was chosen. 604 01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:53,800 The agenda said, pick a date, that's all the board should have been discussing without the 605 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:54,200 afternoon. 606 01:33:54,420 --> 01:33:57,000 It was like a discussion from meeting after the meeting. 607 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,700 When it was suggested that Rachel, the administrative assistant, set up this hearing 608 01:34:02,700 --> 01:34:07,280 date via email and other members replied, yeah, then we have to respond to the emails and 609 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:08,220 others do. 610 01:34:10,140 --> 01:34:15,660 Another member stated, fadingly while being shushed by the chair, Rachel needs to learn 611 01:34:15,660 --> 01:34:18,580 to be a little more efficient on her email and not send us 15. 612 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:30,840 And the thing is the tones, but mostly ought to be equal to the chair then whispered, I'll call somebody. 613 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,100 Spokes replied, yes, I know. 614 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,380 And the chair continues in their whisperer, and we can talk tomorrow. 615 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:38,600 Pokes said, okay. 616 01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:40,720 What goes on at these meetings? 617 01:34:41,260 --> 01:34:43,000 Who is the chair whispering about calling? 618 01:34:44,020 --> 01:34:46,640 Any future conversation that requires whispering in public, 619 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,040 doesn't necessarily sound like it's going to be on the record. 620 01:34:50,260 --> 01:34:52,300 As for the applicant's hosting site law, 621 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,860 the applicant said at the junior meeting the more American. 622 01:34:58,870 --> 01:35:00,650 I was removed from the July site, 623 01:35:00,650 --> 01:35:03,450 off by law enforcement under a few false pretenses, 624 01:35:03,630 --> 01:35:04,590 just as it got underway. 625 01:35:06,910 --> 01:35:08,490 The applicant said both attorneys, 626 01:35:09,010 --> 01:35:11,670 the risk of law enforcement that she is a deputy attorney 627 01:35:11,670 --> 01:35:13,330 general for the state of South Carolina. 628 01:35:14,170 --> 01:35:16,910 She should be familiar with the workings of public processes. 629 01:35:17,410 --> 01:35:20,370 This couple act with an intent and often can pulse it in. 630 01:35:21,470 --> 01:35:25,370 The board chair and I had a brief discussion between the site walk and start of the July meeting. 631 01:35:25,930 --> 01:35:30,550 I was advised the issue of being forcefully removed from the site walk, which was supposed to be a public perceiving, 632 01:35:31,170 --> 01:35:32,850 wouldn't be addressed at the meeting. 633 01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:34,570 I collated by it. 634 01:35:36,450 --> 01:35:41,570 At your July meeting, the African stating that utilizing either of letters offered river access 635 01:35:41,570 --> 01:35:45,970 was an insufficient alternative water access per the DEP, 636 01:35:45,970 --> 01:35:51,270 what he said. Well, playing boards now at every time for a view of the applicant's 637 01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:54,790 rules submitted and I hope they easily see it wasn't too deep as they can find 638 01:35:54,790 --> 01:36:01,070 the rules provided and rely upon suspect information provided by the applicant. Obviously 639 01:36:01,070 --> 01:36:06,950 intentional mischaracterations, mischaracterizations, and omissions were submitted. 640 01:36:07,690 --> 01:36:12,310 The board misdeeds were enormous. In the section of one of the applicant's filing 641 01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:15,030 and staying potential alternatives to this project. 642 01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:17,430 One might reasonably presume, 643 01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:20,090 mentioned was the name of both of the applicants 644 01:36:20,090 --> 01:36:22,490 of buyers offers to access the box. 645 01:36:23,110 --> 01:36:25,870 As the applicants have stayed the DEP found in ad, 646 01:36:25,970 --> 01:36:30,770 but they do July meeting, no such fact was ever presented in the DEP. 647 01:36:31,670 --> 01:36:34,210 The applicants was the only fact that one alternative, 648 01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:36,450 the proposed project had, was next door, 649 01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:39,050 to which they had newly direct access from the second 650 01:36:39,050 --> 01:36:45,710 on Cranberry Point Road was mentioned forthcoming of this license business next to our 651 01:36:45,710 --> 01:36:51,390 with a natural book grant and pointed access, which the applicants had used once freely 652 01:36:51,950 --> 01:36:57,970 of the twice I've seen in the news about the surpass six years not submitted. The applicants 653 01:36:57,970 --> 01:37:03,390 list the new Meto's book grant is a boat access under four miles away, now. The applicant's 654 01:37:03,390 --> 01:37:07,490 This picture is reach boat ramps, a potential point of boat access, four miles from 655 01:37:07,490 --> 01:37:07,870 your home. 656 01:37:09,130 --> 01:37:13,830 Did the applicant slip back south and boat ramp, odd point, odd miles away? 657 01:37:15,190 --> 01:37:18,150 The applicant slip back north and boat ramp is flat point. 658 01:37:18,250 --> 01:37:22,950 This potential accessible boat launching access, 8.3 miles throughout the way. 659 01:37:23,530 --> 01:37:23,830 Nope. 660 01:37:24,850 --> 01:37:25,570 So where's points? 661 01:37:25,670 --> 01:37:26,930 9.5 miles away. 662 01:37:28,370 --> 01:37:29,130 11 miles. 663 01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:29,970 11 miles. 664 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,360 Models was the application of state and hardship distance to access vote once in facilities. 665 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:41,500 It's sheer portion. The application is stated with a close screen, it was nine and a half miles distance. 666 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,180 It's under six miles to prove it to the center. 667 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:54,940 Facts of our fabrications. The scenic value and historic impact sections of the applicant's submittal to other agencies are also missing in crucial information. 668 01:37:55,580 --> 01:38:00,500 At the board reviewed this information and applied any due diligence, combined with local knowledge. 669 01:38:01,140 --> 01:38:03,700 It would have also found another mention of this process, 670 01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:07,560 processing designated as seen in VISTA, and the enhanced comprehensive plan. 671 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:14,100 Norths, a body of building on the National Historic Register of the Historic Places, 672 01:38:17,460 --> 01:38:19,500 omitted information hindered these other agencies, 673 01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:23,420 ability to consider and evaluate the seen it in a historic impact of this project, 674 01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:26,640 which is an integral part of their evaluation process. 675 01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,000 You've seen their reports for yourself. 676 01:38:30,260 --> 01:38:33,780 In the absence of a part of our notification, this force due diligence and all of the 677 01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:38,460 textbooks for a group character, surely at hand in rich history, one such a major project 678 01:38:38,460 --> 01:38:42,520 is proposed and it's such a portion of being proper to other agencies by afternoon. 679 01:38:43,940 --> 01:38:48,380 Questionable credibility can be found so easily by reviewing these submissions. 680 01:38:49,380 --> 01:38:51,940 I can't finally have a board missed every clue in black and white. 681 01:38:52,760 --> 01:39:00,880 The main municipal association manual for local planning boards specifically guides the boards to evaluate whether each application is relevant. 682 01:39:01,780 --> 01:39:11,780 Whether these were intentional or random omissions and misrepresentations properly by the applicants to mislead these other agencies, regarding both their access to such alternative facilities, 683 01:39:12,380 --> 01:39:15,220 and the historical and scenic value of the area is irrelevant. 684 01:39:15,220 --> 01:39:26,320 The applicant's misled these agencies to obtain approval, mission enrollment, request an information and provide a false information instead to make their case more likely to be approved. 685 01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:37,800 The applicant was obligated to provide accurate information regarding access alternatives, store the references of the scene factors in this process, only facts should have been disclosed in the following steps to every agency. 686 01:39:39,340 --> 01:39:45,880 In July, how the dense statements reported while the site law was in session, this represented 687 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:51,380 to law enforcement prior actions of this board, and those statements were used to 688 01:39:51,380 --> 01:39:56,920 excelate the implication of an innocent and a broader or false criminal trespassment 689 01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:05,040 for us, just to intimidate and keep them to the site law, yet obviously if these attorney 690 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,760 applicants wanted to all the public proceeding on a private property. They must have been aware 691 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,940 of the public must have been allowed to participate. 692 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,660 Having witnessed both these applicants 693 01:40:16,660 --> 01:40:21,840 live in here nearly every branch of law enforcement and the courts and this very board, 694 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:27,900 it comes to no surprise they made intentional willful omissions and misrepresentations to this 695 01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:33,040 and these other agencies regarding site conditions, historically significant money properties 696 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:38,700 distance to access as well. The planning boards disregard all submitted approvals of 697 01:40:38,700 --> 01:40:42,380 other agencies based on these obvious untruths and omissions. 698 01:40:43,140 --> 01:40:51,080 Yeah, it's letter data, July 27, specifies a new minimum height of four and a half to five and a quarter feet above the mark. 699 01:40:51,460 --> 01:40:54,860 The increase is explained by the wider ramp in the end. 700 01:40:56,380 --> 01:41:12,360 Raking and driving previously repeated seven and a half foot height was finally confessed to a seven and a half feet, 701 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:19,160 The applicant's once more only disclosed the impact of this proposed structure at its lowest minimum height on the plant. 702 01:41:19,820 --> 01:41:21,200 Another intentional little mission. 703 01:41:22,140 --> 01:41:27,660 The applicant's later dated 20 July 27th also states once again. 704 01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:35,360 The proposed 204-45 foot-related access grant, and 45 foot-not grant, 705 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:41,140 What will be consistent with other similar peers and post-proximity to propose the peer? 706 01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:47,140 In the quote, please let us review the following documentation of the active docs, the fifth spur, 707 01:41:47,500 --> 01:41:51,640 the candidate river from North to South, all the one being raised at residential. 708 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,240 Hey, what do you might be in my point of view? 709 01:41:55,240 --> 01:42:03,700 Well, this is going to have you two more. 710 01:42:04,180 --> 01:42:07,260 Good afternoon. 711 01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:08,980 One question. 712 01:42:11,460 --> 01:42:13,240 You can give us a big history here. 713 01:42:14,180 --> 01:42:17,300 How far, how much more time do you think you need? 714 01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:18,560 I need some office. 715 01:42:18,980 --> 01:42:19,620 What's that? 716 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:20,340 In some office. 717 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:21,160 When? 718 01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:34,160 I have going to have to cut you off in one way, but I don't see any reason to cycle my... 719 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:38,000 I am not trying to decipher what you're saying. 720 01:42:38,260 --> 01:42:46,220 The main content is no reason to go over many, many things that have been presented before. 721 01:42:46,540 --> 01:42:49,380 We have a new application on the object for tonight. 722 01:42:49,380 --> 01:42:53,420 But you know, some of the things that you are saying 723 01:42:53,420 --> 01:42:57,440 are reflecting back on by your times. 724 01:42:57,620 --> 01:42:59,180 As they did, in the presentation. 725 01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:02,840 Right, understood. This is where we're at now. 726 01:43:03,020 --> 01:43:03,860 We have this. 727 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,100 These are what we call photographs. 728 01:43:06,440 --> 01:43:07,200 Can they let me continue? 729 01:43:08,060 --> 01:43:08,480 They what? 730 01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:09,900 These are what we call photographs. 731 01:43:10,340 --> 01:43:14,300 There's a lot of people that are trying to get their work. 732 01:43:14,620 --> 01:43:15,660 I don't think so. 733 01:43:16,460 --> 01:43:19,280 It's a very question to ask you how much longer we've been. 734 01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:25,360 It's not a fair question. It's a try to interrupt some of your speech. There's other people in us how to do it 735 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,020 You're not the only first year. There's other people that have to get on the internet 736 01:43:29,020 --> 01:43:33,440 So would you like to pretend my first speech? Would you like to sit down? Or do I need to tell anyone to tell? 737 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,220 I'd ask you to do as how much longer will you? 738 01:43:35,300 --> 01:43:39,420 I have no idea. I've done an untied list. I have to tell this together. 739 01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,340 What do you want to say? Did you just want to be for a break or is this? 740 01:43:43,580 --> 01:43:45,140 I don't know. I'm going to tell you to try to out. 741 01:43:53,040 --> 01:44:03,900 This is not a public hearing, so you do not have the right to just talk and talk. This is actually an application. We allow you to talk at our discretion. 742 01:44:03,900 --> 01:44:11,580 but there's a lot of speed at these hands, so yeah, not from our hands, either, but everyone, right? 743 01:44:12,220 --> 01:44:13,740 No, we're going to let these. 744 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:20,280 I think that, I think you should, right now, if he has all this stuff, I think he should submit it in writing. 745 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:31,660 I think we've heard enough from Josh, my personal opinion, and I think we should continue on, but others offer up their opinions, which may differ from Josh's, 746 01:44:31,660 --> 01:44:35,640 and without the history back to 99 years. 747 01:44:35,660 --> 01:44:38,360 I'm just getting to the present here, you know, come on. 748 01:44:39,820 --> 01:44:40,780 I think you know what I think. 749 01:44:40,900 --> 01:44:42,400 If you'd like, I'll just leave. 750 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:48,220 I don't think if you're not going to let me continue with my process, I'll just leave. 751 01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:48,780 You guys can. 752 01:44:48,820 --> 01:44:51,120 Josh, we are not trying to kick you out. 753 01:44:51,220 --> 01:44:51,900 Look at this. 754 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,920 We also know that you haven't given a good presentation. 755 01:44:58,480 --> 01:44:58,840 Oh, have you? 756 01:44:59,160 --> 01:44:59,480 Thank you. 757 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,280 I know you're not done. However, you can give in the history from the beginning up until tonight, 758 01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:15,860 practically, and many of the items that were brought up have already been either a change, 759 01:45:16,420 --> 01:45:22,460 off-the-home, completely out. So what we're going on tonight is this application, 760 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:28,300 the site walk of today, and I want to reshoot something that you had said. 761 01:45:28,300 --> 01:45:30,040 I'm not not speaking for your review. 762 01:45:30,500 --> 01:45:32,540 No, we're going to pay for a while. 763 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:41,100 The first sight walk had troubles in the driveway with people. 764 01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,740 We gathered. 765 01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,520 I announced what this was. 766 01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:51,180 This was a sight walk to do, what we were there for. 767 01:45:51,260 --> 01:45:53,720 I never had an album in the driveway. 768 01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:57,840 Can nothing to do with the planning going. 769 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,200 I was pulled from your group because you wanted to the woods. What are you talking about? 770 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:10,040 No, not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is what happens to that point forward. 771 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:15,760 We also have legal opinions on the area of things. 772 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,980 It's great, and look, this guy is the guy on the other side. 773 01:46:19,340 --> 01:46:22,940 The second side wall was so that this could be all brought out. 774 01:46:23,460 --> 01:46:26,860 We had made a mistake because you could lock talk. 775 01:46:27,380 --> 01:46:28,680 And you can walk out of here. 776 01:46:29,060 --> 01:46:32,260 Remember, you're walking out of here on your own. 777 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:32,780 Good boy. 778 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:34,460 And good luck to you. 779 01:46:34,660 --> 01:46:35,620 Good boy. 780 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,020 Okay, it's closed as far as I can soon. 781 01:46:40,260 --> 01:46:42,420 But I totally expect you to continue on. 782 01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:43,760 And some fashion. 783 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:44,700 Are you speaking to me? 784 01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:45,700 Yes, I am. 785 01:46:45,700 --> 01:46:48,180 I don't know, that's quite all right. 786 01:46:48,860 --> 01:46:54,140 And I also think that if you wouldn't like to hear anything else, 787 01:46:54,500 --> 01:46:57,160 we can certainly let you know that as well. 788 01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:00,920 All the people I know are not about what about gender events 789 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,540 and what BS, they're pushing on that, right? 790 01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:04,620 That's a good advice. 791 01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:08,260 Josh, the public needs to know why the second 792 01:47:08,260 --> 01:47:09,680 safe walk was done. 793 01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:13,780 It was certainly because we thought if we had made a mistake 794 01:47:13,780 --> 01:47:20,280 And you were not walking on the land. We wanted to be sure, but we found out that that doesn't matter 795 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:26,620 We can do a site walk with the other. Oh, not. Oh, a butter. Oh, not. See you later 796 01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:30,360 Sorry, folks 797 01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:35,040 But it all honesty if you do need to break after that. I understand 798 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:42,960 If you do need a break, I do understand. It's just that we're sure to do certain chances for things get very 799 01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:49,700 You know, you see it quite often and just unfortunate. 800 01:47:51,420 --> 01:48:00,860 And unfortunately, puning the word, you know, we do our best here and it's unfortunate 801 01:48:00,860 --> 01:48:08,120 that had to critique four members, critique neighbors, critique it's just using, using 802 01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:14,520 profanity, it's just not appropriate, you know, I get it one day through Sunday. 803 01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:23,100 Well, I'm not going to apologize for anything. I have the tendency to let somebody get it off 804 01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:31,340 just if they are agitated or hit a problem. Everybody knows that, and I hear it from you. 805 01:48:31,340 --> 01:48:38,410 all the time. I don't think in this particular case there are any facts that are going to 806 01:48:39,420 --> 01:48:46,410 help the situation as far as these concern and all we can do is move on with what we know 807 01:48:47,180 --> 01:48:53,460 and I appreciate your patience. And there's an appeal process which is decided for that. 808 01:48:53,580 --> 01:48:53,900 That's right. 809 01:48:56,690 --> 01:49:01,410 I think Maria was right. There's no basis for most of his presentation 810 01:49:01,410 --> 01:49:03,290 because it was all dealt with previously. 811 01:49:04,210 --> 01:49:05,630 That does a totally different action. 812 01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:07,170 It's in front of the board right now. 813 01:49:08,030 --> 01:49:08,870 That's the topic. 814 01:49:11,230 --> 01:49:12,290 Well, look at that too. 815 01:49:13,690 --> 01:49:17,170 I think you want to do this. 816 01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:20,810 You get the classes on. 817 01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:29,300 Well, before we get what I was trying to say is, 818 01:49:29,420 --> 01:49:33,020 I tables this last time because of fish and wildlife. 819 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:43,100 Because I didn't see any application relative to this review, which I read now, and you 820 01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:44,080 provided to us. 821 01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:50,660 And they did quite an exhaustive study of the fish and wildlife in all the weapons, which 822 01:49:50,660 --> 01:49:55,900 they said presented in their movement, down to the cat-tells, which they thought, mitigated 823 01:49:55,900 --> 01:49:56,840 to some degree. 824 01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:04,820 They also said that they wanted the spacing, so leg would move through and on the seeing 825 01:50:04,820 --> 01:50:11,300 aspect, they actually did a scenic matrix and went through their procedure to determine 826 01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:18,400 whether it meant there, a scenic method, probably used the word words, but it has their 827 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:19,520 matrix too. 828 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:26,540 So, when you're playing board and you have to take expertise from somewhere, 829 01:50:27,980 --> 01:50:35,340 unless the butter or something comes up with an expert piece from another place which is great. 830 01:50:36,020 --> 01:50:42,340 But in this case, we rely on the side of the line, on the statements from the state. 831 01:50:43,440 --> 01:50:45,640 And they're there report on the structure. 832 01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:51,860 So that's where we left off that thing last time. 833 01:50:51,860 --> 01:50:52,220 Right. 834 01:50:59,630 --> 01:51:01,610 Well, first of all, before we go into much about it, 835 01:51:01,670 --> 01:51:03,930 this everybody else has anything to do with it. 836 01:51:05,070 --> 01:51:06,210 I have a question. 837 01:51:07,090 --> 01:51:09,890 I'm Marty Mars, I'm a partner at Vogue. 838 01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:14,670 And I'm curious about how the planning board will report the results 839 01:51:14,670 --> 01:51:16,870 for their opinions on today's day. 840 01:51:18,170 --> 01:51:19,370 How will we report? 841 01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:19,730 Yeah. 842 01:51:21,110 --> 01:51:24,070 As a member of the community, I'm just curious. 843 01:51:24,370 --> 01:51:25,650 What the planning board procedure is. 844 01:51:25,650 --> 01:51:31,890 after the end of the site visit to a published area of adults that they can use. 845 01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:40,650 Usually what we do is there will be the same as a regular meeting. 846 01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:50,430 A right up of what we saw, we said what, if it was necessary, all it really is, 847 01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:53,090 is a fact finding job. 848 01:51:53,470 --> 01:51:57,590 Many towns don't even bother with minutes from the sidewalk. 849 01:51:57,770 --> 01:52:00,810 Because all you do is looking around the information. 850 01:52:01,810 --> 01:52:06,810 And if, on our side, if you do make this thought, 851 01:52:07,450 --> 01:52:14,790 then it is, like that, and if they do go, 852 01:52:15,370 --> 01:52:19,590 do we go approval board or not or correct if it's something wrong. 853 01:52:19,590 --> 01:52:25,670 And it's available, then next month, to vote on. 854 01:52:26,170 --> 01:52:27,650 So we have those online. 855 01:52:28,270 --> 01:52:28,470 Never. 856 01:52:29,090 --> 01:52:29,930 Here's somebody to vote. 857 01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:46,560 In just minutes, we don't do reports of censor. Here's our findings, we're going to say that. I mean, it's just part of that gathering information, just like the presentation, but for the expert is. So we don't list, we saw this, we saw that. 858 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,080 It's just close to that moment. 859 01:52:51,020 --> 01:52:52,400 There's some of the drafts on it. 860 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,720 Our minutes from Site Rockstar, close to that moment. 861 01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:55,800 Go there for the idea. 862 01:52:56,540 --> 01:52:57,020 Approved it. 863 01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:57,820 That's what I need. 864 01:52:58,320 --> 01:52:58,380 Yeah. 865 01:52:59,940 --> 01:53:01,860 So the next month was solved. 866 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:04,280 Anything would be on there in the city. 867 01:53:04,700 --> 01:53:04,920 Thank you. 868 01:53:05,260 --> 01:53:06,820 But we don't publish anything. 869 01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:11,820 I'm going to just come back to the world to handle ice and gold on it. 870 01:53:11,980 --> 01:53:14,100 Everything is wide open. 871 01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:16,740 I was just curious because it's the same walk. 872 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:21,260 I mean, I didn't know that they were going to be reviewed. 873 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,280 It makes sense that that's the procedure. 874 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:25,520 I understand. 875 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,760 I don't think I was like correctly told in a minute. 876 01:53:28,180 --> 01:53:30,840 It's more or less what we saw. 877 01:53:31,220 --> 01:53:31,740 What happened? 878 01:53:31,860 --> 01:53:33,000 Who said something? 879 01:53:33,420 --> 01:53:37,480 We saw it and heard the explanation from the presenter. 880 01:53:38,900 --> 01:53:43,240 We went down to every little thing that was said 881 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,720 because all the well looking for is, 882 01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:50,240 does this agree with what, does it mean water is? 883 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:51,180 It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. 884 01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,060 Sometimes we'll measure something. 885 01:53:53,140 --> 01:53:54,940 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's just the get-up. 886 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:59,400 Yeah, just getting, I just was curious about access here. 887 01:53:59,960 --> 01:54:00,560 You're doing this. 888 01:54:00,900 --> 01:54:01,320 Oh, yeah. 889 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:02,680 Everything is available. 890 01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,800 Right, we don't publish anything until after it has come back 891 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:07,740 and voted on. 892 01:54:08,260 --> 01:54:09,360 Right, so we have to do that. 893 01:54:09,380 --> 01:54:11,180 And it ended up on her workload 894 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:17,580 When she gets to it, to take it out, like I can guarantee you, 895 01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:20,320 today's actions are not going to be all tight up. 896 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,700 But everything is open. 897 01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,940 Everything can be had, but if you don't have to worry about that, 898 01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:30,560 thank you. 899 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:31,880 Okay. 900 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:33,740 Back to 901 01:54:36,740 --> 01:54:39,160 we were finished on that. 902 01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:39,800 It's a department. 903 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:40,740 Yes. 904 01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:41,960 Okay. 905 01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:42,680 Yeah, 906 01:54:45,340 --> 01:54:46,700 I'd like to speak. 907 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:47,240 Oh, OK. 908 01:54:48,500 --> 01:54:50,680 Listen, paying attention to President here at Pittsburgh. 909 01:54:51,980 --> 01:54:55,740 I'm Judy Mullins, who is the President of the Pittsburgh 910 01:54:55,740 --> 01:54:57,100 of the Pittsburgh Society. 911 01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:00,220 I'm really, she's not able to be here tonight. 912 01:55:00,460 --> 01:55:03,760 I'm really a letter from her into the Venezuelan 913 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,040 space between her. 914 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,080 The Pittsburgh Historical Society, which is 915 01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:12,300 to express its opposition, to propose a little 200 foot long, 916 01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,360 just, I know, actually, 240 foot long. 917 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:21,580 and three-foot light pier, previous dimensions to 40 by 50 light, to be constructed at 36 Park ahead row. 918 01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,320 The size of the pier is difficult, large, and anything on the peninsula. 919 01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:29,760 The design and silver collar, as presented up in July, fighting for a meeting, 920 01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:33,280 will greatly disturb the leadership and this section of Central Village. 921 01:55:33,780 --> 01:55:39,040 adjacent to the proposed pier are several significant cultural sites, including the Macauve Hill, 922 01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:46,160 line of house, 1776M, and also localizing infant, and so it's the same building, but two 923 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,660 different iterations. 924 01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:54,380 And the Swirl Point Lighthouse, both listed on the National Register of Historic 925 01:55:54,380 --> 01:55:54,820 Places. 926 01:55:55,340 --> 01:56:00,080 They're also applied additional properties, designated significant from the FITSFRIAN Historical 927 01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:05,740 Preservation Commission Survey, once by Health Lane, 15th by Health Lane, 60 Park ahead 928 01:56:05,740 --> 01:56:07,460 row, 42 Park ahead row. 929 01:56:07,460 --> 01:56:09,660 and fits for a Congational Church. 930 01:56:10,220 --> 01:56:16,300 The Center Village was a high connectivity during the shipbuilding era as identified by the historic plaque near Santa Cone. 931 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,680 The first goal in the 2006 Comprehensive Plan is to quote, 932 01:56:20,980 --> 01:56:23,960 maintain the rural character of Pittsburgh and quote. 933 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:30,820 This particular view was identified in the 2006 Comprehensive Plan as a scenic vista. 934 01:56:30,820 --> 01:56:35,800 quote, the Lewis undecline from his work center village and from the bridge to carries the 935 01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:39,860 parking head road over the out of the stream, as well as if you bore it from the bridge over 936 01:56:39,860 --> 01:56:44,540 the marsh and bore it both to go byland, the Keneveck River and Scarlet Point Blight and 937 01:56:44,540 --> 01:56:45,220 Poe. 938 01:56:45,460 --> 01:56:50,660 In addition, the rural character goal was identified as important as a current draft comprehensive 939 01:56:50,660 --> 01:56:53,660 plan document as well as a seated beast of. 940 01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:57,660 We ask you to take the city consideration when you evaluate the downing application. 941 01:56:58,300 --> 01:57:03,780 Branding this permit sets a procedure for future requests in this type from large dogs along the kind of river. 942 01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:08,700 The shoreline is a shared resource, and the youth on the coast of the hood will be interrupted. 943 01:57:09,140 --> 01:57:12,780 Remind the selfish will be disturbed by the installation of the dog framework. 944 01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:15,800 This is the only dream of the president of this purpose. 945 01:57:18,340 --> 01:57:21,980 I also, um, switching hats. 946 01:57:21,980 --> 01:57:32,380 So somewhat I'm also President of Citizenship School of Hawaii and so we also objected the same reasons that we are also on the National Regester. 947 01:57:32,900 --> 01:57:39,080 And we are, Mrs. Rlooking, and you looking right at this structure. 948 01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:51,000 If you look at the picture here on the top right, that's actually the bridge that's the same aluminum structure. 949 01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:58,180 with a win-pliking that the Davens have proposing that is the bridge on the trail out to 950 01:57:58,180 --> 01:58:05,860 squirrel point. That bridge is 115 feet long. The proposed peer is going to be twice that length. 951 01:58:06,580 --> 01:58:17,280 In addition, with the new dimensions that they're applied for, the top of the aluminum part 952 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:26,220 It's going to be over 12 feet above the Mars, so it's going to be very, very prominent, very long, very prominent, and very permanent. 953 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:38,900 And I haven't lived a cross river from that bridge, which I sort of always do a silent, I'm sorry to my neighbors, and I look out the cross river because it catches the sunlight. 954 01:58:38,900 --> 01:58:42,780 like the thing looks like we in cross do that we don't want to show you and get enough 955 01:58:42,780 --> 01:58:47,880 trouble raising the money to build it and we do not in cross do times but it catches 956 01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:57,880 the sun and just sparkles and listens and so I am, you know, when it comes for a point 957 01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:06,140 we're going to have that same listening view of 243 of Sparkle over what is now in Christine 958 01:59:06,140 --> 01:59:13,120 And this is maintaining the world character and preserving the historic character, particularly 959 01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:20,820 in the center of religion, has been a stated goal of the townspeople for 20 years. 960 01:59:22,780 --> 01:59:27,240 And I just really would like the board to be in the center as with the distrust signing. 961 01:59:29,500 --> 01:59:34,640 And then I have, I'm sort of switching hats again, I live upstream of ways, I pack, I can just 962 01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:39,760 go to Island, which this bridge is directly shooting out toward. 963 01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:50,920 Go to Island is going to be about 700 feet or so off shore from the end of the structure. 964 01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:53,860 As if that's an active eagle's nest. 965 01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:55,260 I was on the sidewalk today. 966 01:59:55,460 --> 01:59:56,940 We actually watched a needle fishing. 967 01:59:58,640 --> 01:59:59,700 And I do have... 968 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,060 I just would like Mr. Daven to come in, in fact, that I know that Versa is a C-plane pilot and I know that they 969 02:00:09,060 --> 02:00:17,400 don't actually have a history of voting. And so I do have concerns that this dot could also be used 970 02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:28,400 for anger, for tying up a C-plane. And that is that whole area, your dog is completely within 1,000 mile 971 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:36,180 That doesn't matter, excuse me, a thousand foot radius, the state of main lock, attacks, 972 02:00:37,140 --> 02:00:44,420 eagle nesting habitat from sea plane activity, it happens to be, sea planes happen to 973 02:00:44,420 --> 02:00:53,620 be peculiarly disruptive to eagles, both in OIS and in the elevation I fly out for my husband's 974 02:00:55,300 --> 02:01:02,560 So I just would like it, it's perfectly possible. 975 02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:04,980 I'm not saying this is what the doubt is doing. 976 02:01:05,740 --> 02:01:10,240 But it's perfectly possible to put in a proposal to the EPA, 977 02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:14,560 which was assumed that a boat was going to be docked at this dock. 978 02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:21,560 And then after the fact that I applied the FFA to permit to have a sea plane there. 979 02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:32,000 And the FFA permit, they have no criteria within their process of environment and capital 980 02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:41,260 throughout, is solely based on radiation safety, and so essentially scoop through the environmental 981 02:01:41,260 --> 02:01:45,020 concerns about Bolera and about the seagulls there. 982 02:01:45,060 --> 02:01:51,200 And I also as a co-actor, there's a law selection in there, and I believe that it may well 983 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:52,760 also be a sealed grocery. 984 02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:58,100 So I have environmental concerns about those items as well. 985 02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:03,560 So I am interested in hearing of. 986 02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,140 I would like to know that disaster is not used 987 02:02:06,140 --> 02:02:08,500 to be used for anti-seqling at the world. 988 02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:11,660 Well, the application, as it stands, 989 02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:16,560 does not mean to see plenty at all. 990 02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,060 And we do have the alert. 991 02:02:19,060 --> 02:02:26,220 It did come in, and somewhere along in our action we would have read it. 992 02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:28,300 So, thank you. 993 02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:29,900 I did want to write it to the record. 994 02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:31,380 What was that? 995 02:02:31,580 --> 02:02:33,160 I wanted it to write it to the record. 996 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:34,840 I didn't want to have it. 997 02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:34,980 I didn't want to have it. 998 02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:36,100 It would have been. 999 02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:38,000 But thank you. 1000 02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,820 Is there anyone else who would like to speak? 1001 02:02:42,820 --> 02:02:51,000 Yeah, I shared her concern about the Eagles and the Seagulls and my blog blog, and I'm 1002 02:02:51,000 --> 02:03:01,360 sure you all know that Eagles are protected in some way and also you have to sort of keep 1003 02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:07,060 up on what the Eagles are protected from and where they are. 1004 02:03:07,060 --> 02:03:18,060 We have had two cases, family recently, and eagles on the maps, you'll see a big circle for their nesting area. 1005 02:03:19,140 --> 02:03:26,240 And we have checked with the power of the feed to find out is this cell, is this outdated, is anything wrong. 1006 02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:33,320 And so we are up on the eagles, and the same thing would happen. 1007 02:03:34,540 --> 02:03:42,720 Also, if anybody is myself, if you're watching it, and you happen to see anything, you could get right on the phone and say something to somebody. 1008 02:03:44,220 --> 02:03:46,960 But there was several masks all over the room. 1009 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:55,200 Actually, like, I mean, the state of Maine actually has an individual that is the Raptor Expert for Maine. 1010 02:03:55,660 --> 02:03:57,420 So we've done in contact with her. 1011 02:03:57,420 --> 02:04:05,460 So the Nestor talking about is a designated nest that's nest 7, 7, 6, 8, they've been very productive for decades. 1012 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:18,660 However, unfortunately, with January storm in 2024, they lost their nest on the side of the island at face, which that was bad for us because we'd like to be with them. 1013 02:04:18,860 --> 02:04:21,420 But they moved the nest over to the other side of the island. 1014 02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:32,020 And as addressing noise, there is supposed to be no significant noise activity within a half-mile radius of the nest. 1015 02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:38,360 Now, in other occasions, there's fireworks, things like that nature, but, you know, for folks that are doing the fireworks, 1016 02:04:39,140 --> 02:04:45,220 just consider the fact as it was explained to me is they get disoriented, they leave the nest, 1017 02:04:45,220 --> 02:04:51,920 and unlike other birds, they have a tendency to fly towards the bright flash in the noise, 1018 02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:53,820 so that's how we get armed. 1019 02:04:56,660 --> 02:05:03,140 As the comment regarding the seaplane, yes, my wife is a licensed seaplane pilot, 1020 02:05:03,620 --> 02:05:08,480 but do you know how much a seaplane costs? So I don't think any time unless she remarries 1021 02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:13,320 and find somebody a lot more wealthier, there will be a seaplane in our future. 1022 02:05:15,220 --> 02:05:22,200 could be when you're talking about what can be, what can be, what can be, what can be a list 1023 02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:23,120 of what can't be. 1024 02:05:27,290 --> 02:05:30,550 Anything else? I'm not laughing at you. Anybody else? 1025 02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:33,690 That's fine. It's comical in a way. 1026 02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:48,160 Related to the project we're talking about, is there any provision for boat slips or morons on the 1027 02:05:48,160 --> 02:06:00,320 that we're talking about because that turns into traffic and noise, which would disinvantage the 1028 02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:03,080 egoary also. 1029 02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:06,860 There are no proposed morons. 1030 02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:11,440 We do have one moron that is currently licensed. 1031 02:06:12,020 --> 02:06:13,760 That moron is set in place. 1032 02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:18,580 feet as our father to the north was placing more in something that would have gone down through 1033 02:06:18,580 --> 02:06:25,280 the location for the proposed docks and we reserved an area just so a we wouldn't be impacted 1034 02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:32,040 by the time that we went to build a dock and be to have a more for when we do have the dock 1035 02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:40,700 in place. Anymore residential or not commercial? Is that a satisfactory answer? I didn't hear 1036 02:06:40,700 --> 02:06:44,980 anything helpful on the subject of tying up votes. 1037 02:06:45,540 --> 02:06:50,320 Both slips, because there's no slips that's one, one dog. 1038 02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:56,160 But is there anything that keeps it there? 1039 02:06:56,200 --> 02:07:05,340 It starts out being a dog, but does it become a base of slips and votes more in there and traffic? 1040 02:07:05,340 --> 02:07:10,560 No, I mean, I'd have to submit a different application for that. 1041 02:07:11,060 --> 02:07:13,660 There's nothing in the proposed application for that. 1042 02:07:13,700 --> 02:07:14,580 Thank you. 1043 02:07:20,210 --> 02:07:21,290 All right. Let's get back. 1044 02:07:22,030 --> 02:07:22,950 I'm sure you should. 1045 02:07:23,250 --> 02:07:23,610 I do. 1046 02:07:23,950 --> 02:07:25,870 I'm just letting others stop. 1047 02:07:26,610 --> 02:07:26,790 All right. 1048 02:07:26,830 --> 02:07:27,630 It's an interesting college. 1049 02:07:28,430 --> 02:07:28,690 Yeah. 1050 02:07:28,890 --> 02:07:29,010 Yeah. 1051 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:36,420 Now, Christine Collins and I represent the 1774 in. So I just want to focus on the ordinance standards, because that's all it matters. 1052 02:07:38,580 --> 02:07:41,780 But first I have a question for the applicant through the chair, if that's okay. 1053 02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:49,340 And I was just wondering, what are the differences between this iteration of the project that's in front of the planning board and the one last approved by DEP? 1054 02:07:49,980 --> 02:07:53,060 Are they now identical or is there something else that's changed? 1055 02:07:54,260 --> 02:08:00,460 No, it will change and that will the DEP and that way we're going to be widening the peer 1056 02:08:00,460 --> 02:08:01,320 of that. 1057 02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:03,460 That's a bit of a minor amendment to DEP. 1058 02:08:07,550 --> 02:08:14,050 And then just going through the ordinance, the applicant I noticed just focused on the 1059 02:08:14,050 --> 02:08:18,870 15D standards, both the first time around in this time around, the ordinance of course has 1060 02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:23,070 more standards than that that are applicable generally, so I don't want you to lose sight 1061 02:08:23,070 --> 02:08:23,750 of those. 1062 02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:37,250 But looking at the doc standards first, still, the facility should be no larger intervention than necessary to carry on the activity and consistent with the surrounding character and uses of the area. 1063 02:08:38,690 --> 02:08:45,590 So ISNW pointed out that the doc is much larger than what they typically see from peer systems. 1064 02:08:47,390 --> 02:08:54,490 That's evident, there's not a single dock or pure on that wall that is even close to what's being proposed here. 1065 02:08:55,090 --> 02:08:59,150 So this is not consistent with the surrounding character and uses of the area. 1066 02:09:00,390 --> 02:09:07,270 There was a comment last meeting from the planning board that, to the effect that all waterfront owners should have the right to a dock. 1067 02:09:08,090 --> 02:09:10,030 And I think that is not the case. 1068 02:09:10,610 --> 02:09:15,410 Otherwise, we would not even ordinance that provides standards, and the standards very clearly 1069 02:09:15,930 --> 02:09:21,070 envisions that there could be a peer that is just too big and out of character for the area, and that 1070 02:09:21,070 --> 02:09:22,270 peer would have to be denied. 1071 02:09:24,190 --> 02:09:26,570 Moving on to section 15, S. 1072 02:09:26,810 --> 02:09:29,610 This is a biggie. This prevents you from acting tonight. 1073 02:09:30,310 --> 02:09:34,490 It says that any proposed land use activity involving structural development, 1074 02:09:35,010 --> 02:09:45,470 More soil disturbance on or adjacent to sites listed on the National Register shall be submitted by the applicant to the Main Historic Preservation Commission for Review and Comment, 1075 02:09:46,030 --> 02:09:53,770 at least 20 days prior to action being taken by the Planning Board, and the Planning Board shall consider those comments prior to rendering and decision on the application. 1076 02:09:54,790 --> 02:10:05,490 So, I know that there is a letter from way back in 2023 from Historic Preservation Commission but that was not on this version of the project in this location. 1077 02:10:06,490 --> 02:10:14,570 So, that needs to be revisited. The applicant needs to go back to the Historic Preservation Commission on this version of the application in this location, 1078 02:10:15,310 --> 02:10:21,890 which is much more adjacent and has much more impact on the Historic Structures before you all are able to take a vote. 1079 02:10:24,110 --> 02:10:30,790 Going on to the general approval standards, 17 D3D, that's one of the ones that have 1080 02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:35,010 the applicant in really address, that the project would not have an adverse impact on 1081 02:10:35,010 --> 02:10:38,470 spawning ground-specific product life, further or other wildlife habitat. 1082 02:10:40,170 --> 02:10:45,070 Yeah, I know that I think W concluded at the end of their review in this location, it would 1083 02:10:45,070 --> 02:10:49,770 be possible, but that doesn't prevent the board from looking at all of their findings that 1084 02:10:49,770 --> 02:10:56,250 may insane. We take different view. This is too much impact in this location, especially 1085 02:10:56,250 --> 02:10:59,190 when coupled with these other standards that it should be no larger than necessary. 1086 02:10:59,510 --> 02:11:05,870 That's to be consistent with the character of the area. Just to pick a few, IFNW says it's 1087 02:11:05,870 --> 02:11:11,010 in a tidal water-weighting bird habitat that in the other location it would effectively 1088 02:11:11,010 --> 02:11:18,830 bisect a large intact coastal wetland. It's still a little bit less so. They call it a 1089 02:11:18,830 --> 02:11:25,290 for short birds. They mentioned 12 birds species that they identified during their site walk. 1090 02:11:25,930 --> 02:11:29,370 We have evidence here that it's a seal nursery. 1091 02:11:31,710 --> 02:11:35,830 The IFNW says long pears negatively impact special with salt marsh birds. 1092 02:11:37,170 --> 02:11:39,830 Helps out the seagulls, but nobody really wants to help out seagulls. 1093 02:11:43,050 --> 02:11:47,890 So, to the extent the boards inclined to just say, well, DEP approved this, so we feel 1094 02:11:47,890 --> 02:11:48,650 like it's okay. 1095 02:11:49,850 --> 02:11:56,810 I think that the points that Mr. Bay brought up about the fact that DEP was misled when it 1096 02:11:56,810 --> 02:12:01,790 was told that the closest alternative access was 9 plus miles away. 1097 02:12:02,410 --> 02:12:08,130 They make a determination based on this weighing of the burdens on the property owner, 1098 02:12:08,130 --> 02:12:15,770 versus the burdens on the wildlife, and that is a significant factor that they were misled on about 1099 02:12:15,770 --> 02:12:21,330 their being, you know, no practical alternative. So I think DEP would be going back to the drawing 1100 02:12:21,330 --> 02:12:25,050 board on that point when that information is brought to life. 1101 02:12:27,090 --> 02:12:32,210 Finally, 17 D3F, that is the one that requires 1102 02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:38,050 archeological and historic resources to be protected as designated in the comprehensive plan. 1103 02:12:38,090 --> 02:12:46,170 As we've been over, the 1774 in is designated as a historic resource in the comprehensive plan. 1104 02:12:46,250 --> 02:12:50,870 The historic committee of the town saying this is a problem. 1105 02:12:51,490 --> 02:12:54,810 You've got swirl point saying this is a problem for their historic structure. 1106 02:12:56,150 --> 02:12:59,390 When you're considering impacts on historic properties, 1107 02:12:59,390 --> 02:13:06,050 obviously it's not just for the application involving historic property, you have to 1108 02:13:06,050 --> 02:13:11,230 consider the impacts on properties in the neighborhood. So if we are not on the 1109 02:13:11,230 --> 02:13:16,890 water, if we were in a village and somebody were proposing a you know modern 1110 02:13:16,890 --> 02:13:22,830 angular metal structure, a block down the road from historic structure, you would 1111 02:13:22,830 --> 02:13:32,730 saying this is minimizing the historic scenery and feeling of this historic area and just the 1112 02:13:32,730 --> 02:13:34,810 same thing here only it's on the water. 1113 02:13:37,150 --> 02:13:40,730 I think frankly between those two historic provisions 1114 02:13:40,730 --> 02:13:47,350 and any of the people you would give could be easily overturned. So at the very least you need to 1115 02:13:47,350 --> 02:13:50,790 get that feedback from the HPC on before you can receive. 1116 02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:52,090 Thank you. 1117 02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,540 I'd like to also explain another little thing. 1118 02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:05,000 When a person needs multiple parents, they have to go to each one 1119 02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:10,360 of those departments and abide by the rules of each one of those 1120 02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:12,720 departments and they're saying here. 1121 02:14:13,340 --> 02:14:24,620 This is not all sure, and there's ladies and gentlemen here as well, but we could read our own 1122 02:14:24,620 --> 02:14:33,280 audience and see how the application fits what does it mean, whereas if you went to one 1123 02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:39,920 of the state of silence to find out what they want, if they have nothing to do with some 1124 02:14:40,700 --> 02:14:49,200 So that person has to jump through all of those rules before they get final approval, and I think you know that. 1125 02:14:49,820 --> 02:14:59,580 And the fact that somebody in there who lives and lives has something that we don't have in hours doesn't need. 1126 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:19,060 That doesn't have to be addressed. We, in our show, and it's only not. It's trying to keep up with state law and make sure that we have it in here. Other things, other agents in these functions, we don't try to talk about every little thing that everybody has in mind. 1127 02:15:20,660 --> 02:15:30,880 I completely agree with that, Mr. Clark mentioned, you know, DEP is good with it, and I just wanted to be clear that DEP might not be good with it, knowing what they know now. 1128 02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:34,980 I understand they were very on the fence and improving this in the first place. 1129 02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:43,600 Well, that's one of the things, as I said, the applicant has to do all of that, and it may take several months. 1130 02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:45,040 Or two now. 1131 02:15:45,140 --> 02:15:50,660 All we can do is speak for ourselves, and if you want my personal opinion, I would say 1132 02:15:50,660 --> 02:15:58,940 that it will be easier, on this board, if somebody had all of their guesses from all 1133 02:15:58,940 --> 02:16:04,400 of the other departments before they even come into the town, but that's not the way everything 1134 02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,380 is set up at all. 1135 02:16:06,540 --> 02:16:08,600 Well, the HBC one is set up that way. 1136 02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:10,980 It does require them to have that in the one. 1137 02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:17,980 The one requiring the Historic Preservation Commission report that one they do have to have in hand before you guys can act. 1138 02:16:18,860 --> 02:16:20,300 And do that? 1139 02:16:21,900 --> 02:16:22,860 Do you? 1140 02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:25,500 If I could refer to what she said, I would answer for that. 1141 02:16:26,020 --> 02:16:33,220 Yeah, it's a great way to do you have whatever approval you need from the Historic Preservation Act. 1142 02:16:33,540 --> 02:16:36,760 They're supposed to get that, I don't know whether it's you or the applicant. 1143 02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:38,460 This is us, Fabio. 1144 02:16:38,940 --> 02:16:42,460 We have a date, there's a date one as I recall. 1145 02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:43,680 So you do know here. 1146 02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:44,320 Can we? 1147 02:16:44,640 --> 02:16:45,200 Yeah, exactly. 1148 02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:45,720 That's what we do. 1149 02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:51,840 Okay, so, but it's from two and a half years ago. 1150 02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:58,480 So it doesn't fulfill the requirements of Section X, 1151 02:16:58,820 --> 02:17:00,080 because it says 20 days. 1152 02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:01,040 That's true. 1153 02:17:01,420 --> 02:17:03,040 If I could just jump in. 1154 02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:03,320 Sure. 1155 02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:04,580 When you're ready. 1156 02:17:05,660 --> 02:17:12,720 As part of our application for this project, to the Army Corps of Engineers, we're required 1157 02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:20,360 to submit the copy of the material to the Army Corps of Engineers, and also the five tribes 1158 02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:23,160 in the state, not that that's part of this program. 1159 02:17:24,140 --> 02:17:28,580 And we submitted a letter on May 20, 2026, the same day. 1160 02:17:28,580 --> 02:17:36,080 we bailed our application to the town planning board and I have a copy of their response. 1161 02:17:36,780 --> 02:17:43,960 Excuse me, so it's the cover letter and their rubber stamp, if you will, response from the State 1162 02:17:43,960 --> 02:17:49,540 of Historic Preservation Officer at the Municipal Historic Preservation Commission dated June 2, 1163 02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:54,980 2026 and it says, based on the information submitted, I have concluded that there will be 1164 02:17:54,980 --> 02:18:03,700 of historic properties affected by the proposed undertaking as defined by section the 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. 1165 02:18:04,300 --> 02:18:18,660 Consequently, pursuant to 36 CFR 8800.4D1, no further section the 106 consultation is required, unless additional resources are discovered during project implementation. 1166 02:18:18,660 --> 02:18:27,920 So, I do 36 of our 813 sign, Kurt Money, State of Historic Preservation Officer. 1167 02:18:28,860 --> 02:18:30,180 So, we have that. 1168 02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:33,660 One copy, I'm happy that we can make photocopies. 1169 02:18:34,580 --> 02:18:37,300 Yeah, just to give it to the playing board. 1170 02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:39,300 I'm happy to have a copy. 1171 02:18:41,460 --> 02:18:49,800 And also how about this distance to distance issue that keeps coming up? 1172 02:18:49,940 --> 02:18:52,060 I've heard there's never touched you, Chris, not also. 1173 02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:54,600 Distance to the, through the, 1174 02:18:54,600 --> 02:18:56,440 this is a lot of alternatives, start with whatever you need. 1175 02:18:56,820 --> 02:18:58,080 How do you address it? 1176 02:19:00,060 --> 02:19:01,700 Before I go on to that topic. 1177 02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:09,280 I'll also acknowledge that either Christian Collins or flying, 1178 02:19:09,300 --> 02:19:13,740 I'm not exactly sure who submitted comments to the main 1179 02:19:13,740 --> 02:19:16,400 historic preservation commission as I understand it, 1180 02:19:17,700 --> 02:19:20,660 regarding the view from the historic structure 1181 02:19:20,660 --> 02:19:24,920 and prompted the main, since this date of this letter. 1182 02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:28,340 And it caused the main of historic preservation 1183 02:19:28,340 --> 02:19:30,760 provision to contact us as the applicant 1184 02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:36,860 to let them know a provider response related to that. 1185 02:19:37,140 --> 02:19:38,760 And we provided that response 1186 02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:44,740 So we've not got any vital work back from the maintenance of our preservation commission regarding that. 1187 02:19:45,060 --> 02:19:50,440 So that means that the issue of this letter then from some other impetus thing. 1188 02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:53,680 So have they, will the issue of new approval? 1189 02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:57,220 It's unclear to us, we would assume so. 1190 02:19:57,700 --> 02:20:00,100 Okay, but it's the same or not really sure. 1191 02:20:01,060 --> 02:20:05,260 So this approval has been superseded by another request. 1192 02:20:05,260 --> 02:20:07,840 They have requested additional information. 1193 02:20:08,940 --> 02:20:12,220 So I think it could be viewed as possibly superseded, 1194 02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:14,800 but through this, there's still delivery. 1195 02:20:19,010 --> 02:20:19,930 Yeah, people. 1196 02:20:21,330 --> 02:20:25,110 Now, if this isn't, I've earned this one full touch out 1197 02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:26,450 at the interest of your work. 1198 02:20:27,230 --> 02:20:27,610 Sure. 1199 02:20:28,490 --> 02:20:33,250 So with respect to the, you know, we'll call it an alternative analysis. 1200 02:20:33,290 --> 02:20:36,170 As part of the DEP application process, 1201 02:20:36,170 --> 02:20:46,590 Under their regulations, we have to provide all applicants have to provide an alternative analysis, which is a section of the application that addresses simply that. 1202 02:20:46,770 --> 02:20:53,370 Do you have alternatives that you've considered, and if so, what is, you know, why can't you do that? 1203 02:20:54,850 --> 02:21:02,770 And that is specific to the BP application, it's not a talent standard, but just for the sake of this conversation tonight. 1204 02:21:03,410 --> 02:21:06,890 We have provided an alternative analysis to the town for this project. 1205 02:21:09,070 --> 02:21:13,410 And the alternative analysis does consider other bolt launches. 1206 02:21:13,890 --> 02:21:18,790 Could you do this as a arena nearby that you can tie up that? 1207 02:21:20,490 --> 02:21:25,990 If you do this, if you do that, I mean, for a year it's pretty limited in what your options are. 1208 02:21:26,210 --> 02:21:34,450 So we consider the various launches that could accommodate the applicant's boat, the applicant's objectives, 1209 02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:42,070 will appear, and it's been our determination much as a list of the DP approval back in 2025, 1210 02:21:43,550 --> 02:21:47,910 October 2025 that there is no reasonable alternative. 1211 02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:51,770 When that's the threshold, is it a reasonable alternative? 1212 02:21:53,950 --> 02:21:56,970 And that's, again, that's part of the DDP process. 1213 02:21:58,050 --> 02:22:01,310 A lot of distances to various voltages has been considered. 1214 02:22:02,130 --> 02:22:03,030 It's not as practical. 1215 02:22:03,570 --> 02:22:06,330 There are certain voltages, small voltages, and fifths, 1216 02:22:06,850 --> 02:22:11,170 where they cannot accommodate certain size boats, larger boats, 1217 02:22:11,430 --> 02:22:14,810 might take my boat, but it might not take his boat or your boat. 1218 02:22:14,810 --> 02:22:19,490 All those things have been way as part of the DEP application. 1219 02:22:20,610 --> 02:22:24,810 There's under the town ordinance, there are no standards related to 1220 02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:26,770 that alternatives analysis. 1221 02:22:26,850 --> 02:22:29,970 How do you react to this data that you misrepresent? 1222 02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:36,680 I'd like to hear what you're response to that, because that's been leveled several times today. 1223 02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:47,740 Yeah, there are, yes, and that's a little frustrating to hear, you know, for our purposes, I don't live in FIPSburg. 1224 02:22:48,680 --> 02:22:58,380 I understand there are some bolt launches that are either on private property, that folks are a public is allowed to use, 1225 02:22:58,380 --> 02:23:03,580 are, there are some town launches that are smaller in the commercial fishermen can use, 1226 02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:09,180 but maybe closed off to others, or maybe it's open to all, but there's one parking space. 1227 02:23:10,440 --> 02:23:15,720 And these are launches, so when we prepare an application, that all terms analysis to DP, 1228 02:23:16,320 --> 02:23:22,820 we look at any of the available data that's available in GIS, or the Dwarmalis, 1229 02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:24,680 people still use that out on occasion. 1230 02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:31,200 And we'll look at the data that tells us where the public 1231 02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:32,280 bowl lunches are located. 1232 02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:38,420 So that will tell you that, and only public, not private 1233 02:23:38,420 --> 02:23:44,320 bowl lunches, around here, would be the Fettlers reach at 1234 02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:49,720 Morse Goaf, yes, ancestors, and then force the bath lunches 1235 02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:57,860 Well, there are no other bowl lunches around this area that are at least widely published 1236 02:23:57,860 --> 02:23:59,180 for public. 1237 02:23:59,360 --> 02:24:05,100 And what are the fillet's reaches where the nine miles would have that could have just 1238 02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:05,780 come from? 1239 02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:06,520 I don't know. 1240 02:24:07,640 --> 02:24:13,380 I have to look back at the application, that may have been about this time. 1241 02:24:13,400 --> 02:24:13,540 Yeah, about this time. 1242 02:24:13,540 --> 02:24:14,700 Filters like forging. 1243 02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:15,880 Yeah, yeah. 1244 02:24:16,500 --> 02:24:16,700 Yeah. 1245 02:24:17,180 --> 02:24:17,340 Yeah. 1246 02:24:17,340 --> 02:24:18,560 Wouldn't be in some of the coaching. 1247 02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:27,860 I'm just trying to reach the accolade and try to understand, okay, I appreciate that. 1248 02:24:32,370 --> 02:24:41,310 I just wanted to comment on that historic preservation commission information, I could. 1249 02:24:42,370 --> 02:24:49,950 First off, with this material not having been submitted before today's, I think you all have a seven day advanced requirement for submissions. 1250 02:24:50,570 --> 02:24:56,170 So it would be nice if we could have seen that so we knew to contact the commission and ask 1251 02:24:56,170 --> 02:25:02,590 what was going on and be able to be prepared and comment on that but it does sound like 1252 02:25:02,590 --> 02:25:07,170 it's subject to review and can't be relied on and I just wanted to say because I've seen 1253 02:25:07,170 --> 02:25:12,050 boards do this before to the extent you might be inclined to say well they submitted something 1254 02:25:12,050 --> 02:25:17,270 let's just as a condition of approval say that as long as they submitted after the fact 1255 02:25:17,270 --> 02:25:20,270 we're good, that can't be a condition. 1256 02:25:20,630 --> 02:25:22,050 I mean, this is something that you've got to find 1257 02:25:22,050 --> 02:25:24,330 as part of your review at the time. 1258 02:25:24,670 --> 02:25:25,130 So thanks. 1259 02:25:26,050 --> 02:25:28,790 We're just going to discuss that, or we're worried. 1260 02:25:29,710 --> 02:25:32,830 What do you think we can actually talk to? 1261 02:25:36,290 --> 02:25:40,310 I don't know, I didn't put to that section, 1262 02:25:40,610 --> 02:25:42,030 but you said, how you read it, too? 1263 02:25:42,690 --> 02:25:42,950 Yes. 1264 02:25:43,910 --> 02:25:44,470 Oh, what? 1265 02:25:44,990 --> 02:25:45,550 Yeah. 1266 02:25:49,300 --> 02:25:49,980 So 1267 02:25:52,890 --> 02:25:53,570 I 1268 02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:06,660 say again, anything that we have is public, as far as do we, if we got a commutational 1269 02:26:06,660 --> 02:26:13,100 saying from this person, and it would have to do with this particular application, we 1270 02:26:13,100 --> 02:26:21,420 would have it, would we notify anybody out there, you know, we would voice into the meeting 1271 02:26:21,420 --> 02:26:25,660 And then presented at that point, we wouldn't tell them. 1272 02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:29,120 We can't eat air for it to publicize anything. 1273 02:26:30,460 --> 02:26:32,480 You mean, that, uh, it's a misunderstanding. 1274 02:26:32,480 --> 02:26:34,640 Somebody wrote in, something kind of a letter. 1275 02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:37,360 Oh, I mean, but we asked for copies, you know, 1276 02:26:37,420 --> 02:26:41,060 so we're preparing a master copy, we had, yes. 1277 02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:43,480 Yes, and I think that's been done. 1278 02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:44,560 Yeah, no. 1279 02:26:44,700 --> 02:26:48,360 I'd say, well, let's say we did, we did, we did, 1280 02:26:49,060 --> 02:26:55,520 Yeah, that's why you have your seven-day events requirements so that people can see what's being going to be talked about. 1281 02:26:56,180 --> 02:26:59,960 By the way, I appreciate you focusing on the ordinances. 1282 02:27:01,220 --> 02:27:02,760 Thank you. 1283 02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:09,280 That's okay. 1284 02:27:10,060 --> 02:27:10,820 I'll say something. 1285 02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:22,760 I just think that as a resident who lives on the water should be able to have access to that water from his property. 1286 02:27:22,760 --> 02:27:29,970 You shouldn't have to go to a neighbors if he has a funds to build to access that water. 1287 02:27:30,860 --> 02:27:39,360 I mean, all the neighbors do, why should he be, why should that be taken from him? 1288 02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:41,740 No one owns a view. 1289 02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:46,940 So if you don't like the looks of it, then I'm sorry. 1290 02:27:49,300 --> 02:28:01,240 They have the right, if they need all three environments to be able to do that, rather it upsets and they don't want to. 1291 02:28:01,340 --> 02:28:05,460 Right, that's what we do. We view more distance. 1292 02:28:05,980 --> 02:28:07,440 Yeah, that's all this more. 1293 02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:09,700 So we're a lot of times. 1294 02:28:13,480 --> 02:28:15,200 There's a lot of times. 1295 02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:16,180 So yeah. 1296 02:28:16,180 --> 02:28:16,340 Right. 1297 02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:18,000 And that's it. 1298 02:28:19,380 --> 02:28:19,760 Hi, Christian. 1299 02:28:20,220 --> 02:28:20,440 Hi, Christian. 1300 02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:21,460 Yeah, I think it is. 1301 02:28:21,540 --> 02:28:24,020 You can just, no history visit. 1302 02:28:24,220 --> 02:28:27,060 But what I talked, Mr. Beings talked about a lot of history in London. 1303 02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:29,060 But it doesn't this time, we've been here long time. 1304 02:28:29,060 --> 02:28:29,560 No, this. 1305 02:28:29,980 --> 02:28:32,520 We used to have an ex-touch at Monterey on November, 2020. 1306 02:28:32,980 --> 02:28:33,800 We talked away from it. 1307 02:28:34,020 --> 02:28:34,380 It's a bit less. 1308 02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:35,380 Just get back. 1309 02:28:35,820 --> 02:28:36,980 You can do it. 1310 02:28:36,980 --> 02:28:38,100 Yeah, we can do it. 1311 02:28:38,100 --> 02:28:38,960 We have many times. 1312 02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:39,480 Yep. 1313 02:28:39,980 --> 02:28:41,180 You should be saying that. 1314 02:28:43,620 --> 02:28:45,180 You're saying that. 1315 02:28:45,180 --> 02:28:50,320 carried from going on. So, to the back of my little body, all the stuff he says and bad 1316 02:28:50,320 --> 02:28:56,880 lost his town. But 31 years, why he's still here, I know I did. He said, if it's that bad, 1317 02:28:56,920 --> 02:28:57,780 he needs to believe. 1318 02:29:00,600 --> 02:29:04,980 Anyway, back to the, thank you for your feelings, by the way, it's back 1319 02:29:04,980 --> 02:29:12,240 to Warden's land. What are we doing here? Yeah, but the, and I appreciate those comments, but I don't 1320 02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:18,420 to make life what you said. Because I've heard your words. And it's a number of times here, and I appreciate it. 1321 02:29:18,660 --> 02:29:21,620 Now, it's just that a lot of people don't realize that we had it both meaning make it. 1322 02:29:21,620 --> 02:29:26,380 Yeah, I used it when I was a kid. And we all got to take them away from us. 1323 02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:30,140 I didn't use it. I was at a lot. I didn't use that. I was kind of talking about it. 1324 02:29:31,580 --> 02:29:33,140 So we'd say, find that. 1325 02:29:33,880 --> 02:29:37,820 So, we have to know what you guys think. 1326 02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:44,260 Is that part of the approval process, we'll have to have a letter from the school office. 1327 02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:46,720 Is that a way to interpret that word? 1328 02:29:47,700 --> 02:29:48,520 I have to read it. 1329 02:29:49,320 --> 02:29:49,980 It's a language package. 1330 02:29:54,050 --> 02:29:54,570 What's that? 1331 02:29:54,570 --> 02:29:58,130 The question is that we have to wait for the... 1332 02:29:58,130 --> 02:29:59,890 Because there's an approval pending. 1333 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,480 With the historical commission, in this pressure. 1334 02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:15,200 They may not see another approval, it may be they're just trying to answer the plan. 1335 02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:19,620 By asking questions and doing it all, I think this. 1336 02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:24,720 So, we can wait and then manage the approval, another approval. 1337 02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:31,680 Well, with the new application or the revised application to DEP, will they send out? I haven't done anything again. 1338 02:30:33,740 --> 02:30:36,720 I would be quite certain they would. 1339 02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:39,880 I can't imagine they would not. 1340 02:30:42,380 --> 02:30:47,320 Although, they may not, because we've scaled the project back, so we'll already want to increase it in the back. 1341 02:30:47,420 --> 02:30:49,400 I'm just going to say that because it's changed. 1342 02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:50,580 It's a waste of resources. 1343 02:30:50,580 --> 02:30:54,880 It has a different report from them to change my thinking. 1344 02:30:57,420 --> 02:30:59,780 Once I've seen you on, is that I vote? 1345 02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:00,780 Yes. 1346 02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:01,380 What's up? 1347 02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:02,040 15. 1348 02:31:14,860 --> 02:31:15,380 15. 1349 02:31:15,740 --> 02:31:16,260 15. 1350 02:31:18,040 --> 02:31:18,200 15. 1351 02:31:18,200 --> 02:31:18,240 15. 1352 02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:18,360 15. 1353 02:31:18,500 --> 02:31:18,800 15. 1354 02:31:19,640 --> 02:31:19,920 15. 1355 02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:22,660 I have a speech right now, but I think we're from Honduras. 1356 02:31:23,740 --> 02:31:27,040 That's the reference to the secret, right? 1357 02:31:53,210 --> 02:31:55,530 Try to find the standard here for a second. 1358 02:31:55,970 --> 02:31:57,070 You can just be here with me. 1359 02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:57,530 I might. 1360 02:32:07,810 --> 02:32:09,470 I don't think I have a question. 1361 02:32:11,530 --> 02:32:14,010 I mean, do you mean you're reading whatever you're reading? 1362 02:32:14,850 --> 02:32:16,950 Can you speak up with me? 1363 02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:21,130 I don't understand what you're trying to read right now. 1364 02:32:21,130 --> 02:32:23,250 So it should- 1365 02:32:23,250 --> 02:32:24,570 Section in our ordinance. 1366 02:32:26,130 --> 02:32:27,210 That says back. 1367 02:32:28,250 --> 02:32:36,410 What's represented the 174 team says that there is, there is a necessary, 1368 02:32:36,990 --> 02:32:39,190 that it's a critical, that's the, that's the. 1369 02:32:39,250 --> 02:32:41,130 That's what we mean before we can render a approval, 1370 02:32:41,390 --> 02:32:42,010 it's a implementation. 1371 02:32:42,590 --> 02:32:43,830 But I think my question is, 1372 02:32:43,830 --> 02:32:46,430 I know there's a bunch of other people who wanted to get. 1373 02:32:47,290 --> 02:32:48,830 There's stuff done in the, 1374 02:32:48,830 --> 02:33:00,290 So, are you actually planning to vote on the seven applications tonight where all these questions about approvals? 1375 02:33:00,650 --> 02:33:02,910 I mean, do you have a discussion? 1376 02:33:04,490 --> 02:33:06,710 We said don't you need D.D. 1377 02:33:06,750 --> 02:33:09,770 I mean, there are other things that we still need. 1378 02:33:09,870 --> 02:33:16,490 You still need D.D.D.D.D.D approval in front of us. 1379 02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:17,850 There's a lot of... 1380 02:33:19,430 --> 02:33:31,190 So you have all the DGP documentation in front of us, and that's what we request in last time, and this is the third year in the last time. 1381 02:33:31,550 --> 02:33:31,990 That's correct. 1382 02:33:34,270 --> 02:33:35,970 So you have a few months that you need. 1383 02:33:36,010 --> 02:33:37,530 Well, that's the question. 1384 02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:39,730 There's a DDP approval. 1385 02:33:40,710 --> 02:33:48,490 But the team brought up a point that he had a historical clue in hand, this was a rank 1386 02:33:48,490 --> 02:33:49,030 of the shukuya. 1387 02:33:49,630 --> 02:33:54,450 But it was somehow a challenge, so that's the issue that we're talking about. 1388 02:33:56,620 --> 02:33:57,560 So that was my question. 1389 02:34:00,440 --> 02:34:05,860 Marie, if I may ask, did I apologize that I even have to ask this question, but what's the 1390 02:34:05,860 --> 02:34:08,140 date of the ordinance you're referencing? 1391 02:34:08,380 --> 02:34:10,520 I have a land use of ordinance from your website. 1392 02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:11,940 This would be your land shoreline. 1393 02:34:12,040 --> 02:34:13,020 This is shoreline. 1394 02:34:13,940 --> 02:34:16,060 The dated June 11th, 2025. 1395 02:34:16,420 --> 02:34:16,980 Yeah. 1396 02:34:17,260 --> 02:34:17,980 Page 45. 1397 02:34:18,260 --> 02:34:18,780 Or five. 1398 02:34:19,520 --> 02:34:21,000 What page on the ordinance? 1399 02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:21,720 45. 1400 02:34:24,580 --> 02:34:24,820 Okay. 1401 02:34:49,870 --> 02:34:52,590 The last section I have is section 13 definitions. 1402 02:34:54,330 --> 02:34:55,230 That's land use. 1403 02:34:55,270 --> 02:34:56,170 That's land use. 1404 02:34:56,210 --> 02:34:58,190 This is shoreline. 1405 02:34:58,430 --> 02:34:59,370 13 ashes. 1406 02:35:01,010 --> 02:35:01,290 15. 1407 02:35:02,410 --> 02:35:02,970 Yeah. 1408 02:35:02,970 --> 02:35:06,350 I don't have to have that with me unfortunately. 1409 02:35:06,450 --> 02:35:09,550 Roger is a possible head and is just near your coffee. 1410 02:35:10,210 --> 02:35:12,730 Sir, do you think you can read a book where you're going to show it? 1411 02:35:13,170 --> 02:35:14,610 I'm very appreciate that. 1412 02:35:14,870 --> 02:35:16,470 You want to talk about it now? 1413 02:35:16,650 --> 02:35:17,070 We're not. 1414 02:35:17,650 --> 02:35:18,290 How do you get it? 1415 02:35:18,490 --> 02:35:20,770 I think you just don't have it whether you came in. 1416 02:35:21,710 --> 02:35:22,970 So, 50 packs. 1417 02:35:23,970 --> 02:35:24,330 I don't know. 1418 02:35:25,010 --> 02:35:25,250 I don't know. 1419 02:35:25,250 --> 02:35:26,510 It's really done with the glass. 1420 02:35:27,330 --> 02:35:27,370 All right. 1421 02:35:28,930 --> 02:35:29,770 It's not a lot of the color. 1422 02:35:30,250 --> 02:35:31,270 Do I copy that? 1423 02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:34,990 No, I think that's a good answer. 1424 02:35:40,260 --> 02:35:41,260 Okay, let's be honest. 1425 02:35:41,260 --> 02:35:42,660 Yeah, I think that's a pretty clear question. 1426 02:35:43,060 --> 02:35:43,900 Oh, we have this one. 1427 02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:46,200 Thank you. 1428 02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:57,820 I would say that we can't render a movement that I faced on this. 1429 02:35:58,040 --> 02:35:58,560 Hang on there. 1430 02:36:01,190 --> 02:36:01,530 It's funny. 1431 02:36:01,670 --> 02:36:03,850 We don't have to get, we don't have to wait for DQ. 1432 02:36:04,110 --> 02:36:05,310 We don't have to wait for this. 1433 02:36:06,770 --> 02:36:08,390 Well, then we submit it to the meeting. 1434 02:36:09,150 --> 02:36:09,170 Yeah. 1435 02:36:09,450 --> 02:36:09,890 Hold that. 1436 02:36:11,070 --> 02:36:11,270 Right. 1437 02:36:12,230 --> 02:36:15,010 I was only maybe in the state of the state of the state of the state. 1438 02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:20,430 There was this almost a deadline for all right, 1439 02:36:20,430 --> 02:36:23,530 then we modified it and now we're going back. 1440 02:36:23,850 --> 02:36:25,250 But there's a short slightly. 1441 02:36:25,790 --> 02:36:28,710 So we've got to wait for the need to report to them again. 1442 02:36:29,330 --> 02:36:29,550 All right. 1443 02:36:29,790 --> 02:36:30,830 Yes, some might have noticed. 1444 02:36:31,230 --> 02:36:31,590 Some might have noticed. 1445 02:36:32,210 --> 02:36:32,670 No worries. 1446 02:36:32,970 --> 02:36:34,410 We don't need the need to be prepared. 1447 02:36:34,410 --> 02:36:35,090 No need. 1448 02:36:35,810 --> 02:36:37,210 I'd like this which our judge says. 1449 02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:38,030 There's no right. 1450 02:36:41,370 --> 02:36:46,410 That's what I mean. 1451 02:36:46,450 --> 02:36:47,010 Which is interesting. 1452 02:36:47,410 --> 02:36:50,030 Because it goes through the Army Corps approval process, 1453 02:36:57,920 --> 02:36:58,780 easily omissioned. 1454 02:36:59,820 --> 02:37:05,620 Well, we'll work with the HPC and the final determination to get it sent to you. 1455 02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:14,680 But it would be possible to do a vote for a potentially conditional approval that we have to provide that for the government factor, 1456 02:37:14,680 --> 02:37:20,600 So that we could just admit it once that's obtained and it fits except assuming that it's 1457 02:37:20,600 --> 02:37:22,660 Acceptable and then 1458 02:37:23,360 --> 02:37:27,020 Stairs from having to take up half year even again. 1459 02:37:27,020 --> 02:37:29,760 It's not that it will enjoy seeing you folks both satisfied 1460 02:37:56,840 --> 02:37:59,980 So many things have already been spoken to. 1461 02:37:59,980 --> 02:38:07,680 we'll call it okay, and we all know that we need to update 1462 02:38:07,680 --> 02:38:13,140 other proofs from everywhere, but now that this has come out 1463 02:38:13,140 --> 02:38:17,740 of this challenge, so we should, right, I'm sorry, we didn't even... 1464 02:38:17,740 --> 02:38:20,400 Yeah, I think there's a lot of it frankly. 1465 02:38:21,620 --> 02:38:25,580 Could we, in the alternative, like, and I appreciate your response 1466 02:38:25,580 --> 02:38:29,720 but with the planning board, be amenable to beginning walking through 1467 02:38:29,720 --> 02:38:36,620 the findings and the fact except for section 50X so that at the next meeting it could be as 1468 02:38:36,620 --> 02:38:40,340 simple as a way for all of it. 1469 02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:51,180 Unfortunately I think because I would submit that we should table and move on to the 1470 02:38:51,180 --> 02:38:51,840 regard of vacation. 1471 02:38:52,120 --> 02:38:57,140 Yeah, I mean, I agree and the interest of time I would like to make a portion that we 1472 02:38:57,140 --> 02:38:58,420 able this 1473 02:39:01,750 --> 02:39:04,090 until I don't know how it's fulfilled. 1474 02:39:04,490 --> 02:39:05,270 Until the next meeting. 1475 02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:05,970 Until the next meeting. 1476 02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:07,730 Until the next time it says to produce. 1477 02:39:08,190 --> 02:39:09,650 Or if they don't have the documentation. 1478 02:39:11,410 --> 02:39:13,030 It's stable until the next meeting. 1479 02:39:13,030 --> 02:39:13,930 Next meeting. 1480 02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:16,550 And if it turns out not ready. 1481 02:39:17,490 --> 02:39:18,410 It's stable for the rest. 1482 02:39:19,150 --> 02:39:19,230 Yeah. 1483 02:39:19,610 --> 02:39:21,230 So we're trying to get it for September. 1484 02:39:21,870 --> 02:39:22,130 Yes. 1485 02:39:22,870 --> 02:39:24,710 Dependent upon receiving the document. 1486 02:39:25,210 --> 02:39:26,490 I think that's the need to go on. 1487 02:39:26,490 --> 02:39:27,230 That's really good. 1488 02:39:27,850 --> 02:39:28,330 Unfortunately. 1489 02:39:28,330 --> 02:39:30,730 That way, appreciate it because of it. 1490 02:39:30,730 --> 02:39:31,130 Any second? 1491 02:39:31,470 --> 02:39:31,890 Second? 1492 02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:35,870 Any other discussion on promotion? 1493 02:39:36,110 --> 02:39:36,290 No. 1494 02:39:37,490 --> 02:39:38,690 All in favor of promotion. 1495 02:39:40,950 --> 02:39:41,030 All right. 1496 02:39:41,170 --> 02:39:41,890 Thank you. 1497 02:39:42,310 --> 02:39:42,710 Thank you. 1498 02:39:44,450 --> 02:39:44,770 Thank you. 1499 02:39:44,770 --> 02:39:45,830 Thank you for your patience. 1500 02:39:46,210 --> 02:39:46,590 So I'm sorry. 1501 02:39:46,810 --> 02:39:49,010 I have to do that. 1502 02:39:49,010 --> 02:39:49,990 I'm sorry. 1503 02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:15,840 I'm sorry. 1504 02:40:15,960 --> 02:40:16,940 I'm sorry. 1505 02:40:16,940 --> 02:40:17,340 I'm sorry. 1506 02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:20,130 I'm sorry. 1507 02:40:20,130 --> 02:40:23,620 How do you feel? 1508 02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:25,300 I feel good. 1509 02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:26,440 I feel good. 1510 02:40:26,660 --> 02:40:29,480 When do you work in the middle of the field? 1511 02:40:32,970 --> 02:40:34,150 Yeah, I feel good. 1512 02:40:36,090 --> 02:40:37,610 You're really, really good. 1513 02:40:37,770 --> 02:40:38,070 You're really good. 1514 02:40:39,190 --> 02:40:40,630 You're really good. 1515 02:40:42,090 --> 02:40:42,670 I feel good. 1516 02:40:43,890 --> 02:40:44,150 Yeah. 1517 02:40:51,450 --> 02:40:54,470 I feel good. 1518 02:40:58,650 --> 02:41:02,910 I think you're never going to take it as if there was a mouth on it. 1519 02:41:03,270 --> 02:41:04,310 I'm close, right? 1520 02:41:04,470 --> 02:41:05,650 I think it has to be close, right? 1521 02:41:06,330 --> 02:41:06,550 Yeah. 1522 02:41:06,890 --> 02:41:09,030 Because it's been like schedule since then. 1523 02:41:09,570 --> 02:41:09,650 I'm close. 1524 02:41:10,470 --> 02:41:10,690 Right. 1525 02:41:11,910 --> 02:41:12,690 I've got everything. 1526 02:41:13,470 --> 02:41:13,890 I don't know. 1527 02:41:14,150 --> 02:41:15,050 I've got a great shirt there. 1528 02:41:15,210 --> 02:41:15,830 I've got it. 1529 02:41:15,890 --> 02:41:16,270 I think so. 1530 02:41:16,510 --> 02:41:18,010 I think it's a live string right now. 1531 02:41:26,570 --> 02:41:27,950 Next slide, the agenda. 1532 02:41:28,830 --> 02:41:29,890 What do you know? 1533 02:41:31,310 --> 02:41:32,350 The following minutes on. 1534 02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:34,650 The next 1535 02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:38,680 slide. 1536 02:41:40,320 --> 02:41:42,320 This is George and I need to slide. 1537 02:41:43,480 --> 02:41:43,720 This is George and I need to slide. 1538 02:41:43,720 --> 02:41:47,420 Sixty-one managers go in about 17 months, 16 representatives, 1539 02:41:48,520 --> 02:41:52,340 but no, over three, over three, over six, 1540 02:41:52,540 --> 02:41:52,780 few of them. 1541 02:41:52,780 --> 02:41:53,000 Excuse me. 1542 02:41:53,820 --> 02:41:55,360 I'll play catch on LLC Miameth. 1543 02:41:56,300 --> 02:41:59,000 These are amendments to an application for season. 1544 02:41:59,000 --> 02:42:06,000 recreational dog, and the application was approved on April 26th. 1545 02:42:06,900 --> 02:42:08,520 It's been a way for 1546 02:42:10,760 --> 02:42:12,480 how we call a full-boy community. 1547 02:42:44,120 --> 02:42:44,840 Okay. 1548 02:42:47,260 --> 02:42:48,200 Thank you very much. 1549 02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:53,600 Yeah, I have wasn't here today. 1550 02:43:02,520 --> 02:43:05,200 We've had you before and if you wouldn't want to sit up closer. 1551 02:43:06,480 --> 02:43:07,980 I just think because we want to do it. 1552 02:43:09,060 --> 02:43:09,820 Thank you. 1553 02:43:10,600 --> 02:43:10,920 What's up? 1554 02:43:11,160 --> 02:43:11,380 What's up? 1555 02:43:12,300 --> 02:43:12,820 What's up? 1556 02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:13,840 What's up? 1557 02:43:14,060 --> 02:43:14,800 What's up? 1558 02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:16,820 What's up? 1559 02:43:17,220 --> 02:43:17,860 What's up? 1560 02:43:18,300 --> 02:43:19,300 What's up? 1561 02:43:19,460 --> 02:43:19,980 What's up? 1562 02:43:20,480 --> 02:43:20,740 Hey. 1563 02:43:22,820 --> 02:43:24,440 Thank you for the introduction. 1564 02:43:24,440 --> 02:43:27,680 And I'm very interested in speaking this short. 1565 02:43:28,020 --> 02:43:34,580 This is a provision of an application that was reviewed at last pending board meeting. 1566 02:43:35,740 --> 02:43:40,540 The provision that is being proposed is that the, well, 1567 02:43:41,680 --> 02:43:44,380 very small bit of a review. 1568 02:43:44,740 --> 02:43:48,360 It is a completely seasonal dock that they are proposing 1569 02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:55,080 it's one bay ledges. There's a miscommunication with the measurements and the proposed 1570 02:43:55,080 --> 02:44:02,660 peer that they will officially open to install will be three and a half or part of me three 1571 02:44:02,660 --> 02:44:03,940 feet wide. 1572 02:44:07,300 --> 02:44:14,380 Let's say 42 and just like you know about that translates to 42 inches wide by 1573 02:44:14,380 --> 02:44:23,800 feet long, as opposed to six feet wide, 42 feet long, as was originally proposed. 1574 02:44:25,880 --> 02:44:26,960 So to have 1575 02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:33,360 smaller, the peer is narrower and smaller, but it was originally proposed. And we've 1576 02:44:33,360 --> 02:44:38,400 updated the plan as to show that otherwise it's all completely penalized in the same location. 1577 02:44:38,900 --> 02:44:42,920 If anything else is identical, they're going to go over it, which makes fun of us? 1578 02:44:43,060 --> 02:44:43,640 Yeah, yeah. 1579 02:44:43,880 --> 02:44:44,280 Thanks a lot. 1580 02:44:44,660 --> 02:44:45,400 It sure does. 1581 02:44:46,540 --> 02:44:46,740 Cool. 1582 02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:52,500 I make a motion that we need to... 1583 02:44:53,580 --> 02:44:55,220 And then after we've done one more minutes, 1584 02:44:55,440 --> 02:44:56,560 oh no, we need to do this. 1585 02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:57,160 I'm not sure. 1586 02:44:58,220 --> 02:44:58,620 Come on. 1587 02:45:01,970 --> 02:45:30,030 I think it's a matter of information, I think it's a matter of food and the smaller dog. Okay. So, when we gave the permit last month, we had listed all of the measurements. 1588 02:45:30,030 --> 02:45:37,670 Now, the only change, the only reason for this is the change in a measurement. 1589 02:45:38,770 --> 02:45:39,470 Okay, 1590 02:45:48,040 --> 02:45:50,660 it would help if it were written here. 1591 02:45:51,700 --> 02:45:57,660 Also, because that's really what you're asking for, and not following tonight. 1592 02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:06,270 I would now tell me again what the measurement is. 1593 02:46:06,270 --> 02:46:12,850 It was we have the six by six foot, my 42 foot, it's what we have. 1594 02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:20,610 Yes, it is, it will be a 601 and 42 inch wide. 1595 02:46:23,030 --> 02:46:25,490 And the ramp is the same as it was? 1596 02:46:25,650 --> 02:46:25,870 Yes. 1597 02:46:26,170 --> 02:46:26,930 Three by 40. 1598 02:46:27,490 --> 02:46:27,710 Yes. 1599 02:46:28,010 --> 02:46:28,250 All right. 1600 02:46:28,350 --> 02:46:29,570 We'll be through my 40. 1601 02:46:32,950 --> 02:46:33,870 We float. 1602 02:46:34,770 --> 02:46:36,350 This is my 20. 1603 02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:41,300 So really the premise tonight is just correct. 1604 02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:42,640 Yes. 1605 02:46:42,640 --> 02:46:44,320 The premise is going to be our part. 1606 02:46:45,200 --> 02:46:46,580 I'll just be here. 1607 02:46:46,700 --> 02:46:46,960 Okay. 1608 02:46:49,160 --> 02:46:58,240 Anyway, I make a motion that we accept the smaller grant of 42 inches wide to 6 feet long. 1609 02:47:01,310 --> 02:47:01,710 Is that good? 1610 02:47:01,830 --> 02:47:02,830 And it was seconded. 1611 02:47:02,950 --> 02:47:03,210 Sure. 1612 02:47:03,790 --> 02:47:05,630 Any other discussion on this? 1613 02:47:06,310 --> 02:47:06,870 All of them. 1614 02:47:07,890 --> 02:47:08,190 Okay. 1615 02:47:08,190 --> 02:47:08,870 We 1616 02:47:12,200 --> 02:47:24,720 have 1617 02:47:54,610 --> 02:48:02,290 a temporary one on Fridays, I don't know what time you're all there on Friday. 1618 02:48:02,530 --> 02:48:03,310 All there's John B. 1619 02:48:08,310 --> 02:48:10,910 He's also managing the code email. 1620 02:48:10,910 --> 02:48:12,350 Okay, thank you so 1621 02:48:25,270 --> 02:48:26,650 much. 1622 02:48:26,690 --> 02:48:27,290 I have a name. 1623 02:48:33,950 --> 02:48:37,170 This time it's probably just what I'm going to say. 1624 02:48:37,870 --> 02:48:46,230 This isn't this the point there where the car would be almost that little can't, like, 1625 02:48:46,450 --> 02:48:49,450 or just how long it used to be in the 7 or 6 months. 1626 02:48:49,890 --> 02:48:50,210 Is that correct? 1627 02:48:50,670 --> 02:48:51,850 Can't breathe in the water. 1628 02:48:52,670 --> 02:48:53,310 Where does that happen? 1629 02:48:54,050 --> 02:48:54,530 No. 1630 02:48:55,810 --> 02:48:59,010 Let's just pitch it all up and down the canning back of different dots. 1631 02:49:00,110 --> 02:49:01,370 That's all I need. 1632 02:49:02,210 --> 02:49:04,030 That's all I need. 1633 02:49:04,030 --> 02:49:04,810 That's all I need. 1634 02:49:04,810 --> 02:49:05,110 That's all I need. 1635 02:49:12,430 --> 02:49:13,910 This is what it has to do. 1636 02:49:36,270 --> 02:49:36,990 That's what I need. 1637 02:49:36,990 --> 02:49:37,510 That's what we need to do. 1638 02:49:37,510 --> 02:49:39,130 Can you tell me to find these children? 1639 02:49:39,630 --> 02:49:39,750 Yeah. 1640 02:49:39,750 --> 02:49:40,570 This is the only children. 1641 02:49:40,930 --> 02:49:41,610 That's the only children. 1642 02:49:42,510 --> 02:49:43,050 That's what I 1643 02:49:59,430 --> 02:49:59,430 need. 1644 02:49:59,430 --> 02:50:01,230 I just measure what they're doing with this. 1645 02:50:01,590 --> 02:50:03,390 Or, you know, I'm not heard of them. 1646 02:50:04,530 --> 02:50:06,470 So, are we even challenging for this? 1647 02:50:07,970 --> 02:50:09,230 I would take no. 1648 02:50:10,830 --> 02:50:11,090 Yes. 1649 02:50:11,090 --> 02:50:16,130 I don't really feel like we need to handle it. 1650 02:50:17,310 --> 02:50:18,470 That's right. 1651 02:50:18,970 --> 02:50:19,330 That's right. 1652 02:50:19,690 --> 02:50:20,030 It has. 1653 02:50:22,230 --> 02:50:22,930 I think so. 1654 02:50:23,290 --> 02:50:23,710 Yes, I agree. 1655 02:50:40,890 --> 02:50:41,290 What? 1656 02:50:41,930 --> 02:50:42,470 Coach? 1657 02:52:19,500 --> 02:52:19,640 Coach? 1658 02:52:19,640 --> 02:52:19,660 Coach? 1659 02:52:20,500 --> 02:52:20,740 Coach? 1660 02:52:20,740 --> 02:52:20,960 Coach? 1661 02:52:27,210 --> 02:52:27,930 Coach? 1662 02:52:27,930 --> 02:52:29,650 to put P.F.A.3. 1663 02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:39,640 For what? For what? Into this by 36 foot gainway and a 14 foot by 12 foot flood in the village district of the shoreline zone. 1664 02:52:41,200 --> 02:52:42,180 That's the proof. 1665 02:52:42,460 --> 02:52:42,880 Thank you, sir. 1666 02:52:43,000 --> 02:52:44,100 Through the timeframe, sir. 1667 02:52:45,200 --> 02:52:46,940 We're representing William S. Parker. 1668 02:52:47,080 --> 02:52:48,980 You know, I have a lot of total rule as you mentioned. 1669 02:52:49,600 --> 02:52:50,380 I was here in February. 1670 02:52:50,980 --> 02:52:57,300 And if you remember on that application, the existing dog that was in this section here, 1671 02:52:58,300 --> 02:53:02,460 That was the previous document that was the story of the January 24 source. 1672 02:53:03,300 --> 02:53:08,700 We, by a matter of 10 days or two weeks or so, just missed the two year window, you 1673 02:53:08,700 --> 02:53:13,000 were placing a time to be being, we just missed out by it's long, long, long, long. 1674 02:53:13,760 --> 02:53:19,320 And so, we were even overseed that playing with our nation with a new, with that job in a 1675 02:53:19,320 --> 02:53:27,280 remaining capital place, but DB did not give us, we did not give it up to us, we did not 1676 02:53:30,940 --> 02:53:33,360 Let's look at what we improve the location. 1677 02:53:33,660 --> 02:53:34,560 Let's just come back for a while. 1678 02:53:34,740 --> 02:53:35,980 Because it wasn't a sort of investigation. 1679 02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:38,980 It's not easy to look at the property line. 1680 02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:40,080 It's very close to the neighbors. 1681 02:53:43,340 --> 02:53:48,500 We start to look at opportunities for improving it. 1682 02:53:48,800 --> 02:53:50,240 While also having eye for one of the levels. 1683 02:53:50,620 --> 02:53:51,300 We don't have eyes. 1684 02:53:51,520 --> 02:53:52,600 We don't have eyes. 1685 02:53:52,600 --> 02:53:53,580 We don't have eyes. 1686 02:53:53,580 --> 02:53:57,700 This is a new application, but it's related to the past. 1687 02:54:05,220 --> 02:54:08,520 So as I mentioned, the left side is a proper year on the property line. 1688 02:54:08,540 --> 02:54:13,380 That's what the existing one was, and it is very close to the defaulter and in their flow. 1689 02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:17,280 So in your application, you can see it probably close to the end here. 1690 02:54:17,360 --> 02:54:19,180 But this is a high piece of literature. 1691 02:54:19,780 --> 02:54:24,400 And so it's been offered a good approach to, essentially, how to pass the list of 1692 02:54:24,400 --> 02:54:30,800 to have a peer out to the value permit and the grade here and that you will utilize the same 1693 02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:36,220 seasonal game-wide seasonal flow that they had previously. So it's very similar in scope where 1694 02:54:36,220 --> 02:54:41,740 it's the same tier of the seasonal aspects, and you get into the rough of the same depth of water. 1695 02:54:43,720 --> 02:54:51,820 So the proposed aspects that are permanent are this grade year section here, which you call the 1696 02:54:51,820 --> 02:54:57,060 On the highest, the astronomical tide, there's a, we call it a crocheting way, because this 1697 02:54:57,060 --> 02:55:02,180 is pretty rocky and pretty, so it would be a better situation if you walked from the 1698 02:55:02,180 --> 02:55:07,600 next grass area on a wooden, like a crocheting way, two to pretty bubble-led, it's a non-blid 1699 02:55:07,600 --> 02:55:11,260 metal, but it's a smooth, first and big and fun thing, unstable. 1700 02:55:12,340 --> 02:55:15,620 So, the grass walk, the here, the walk to the, the job structure, 1701 02:55:20,610 --> 02:55:21,850 we also have angers change, 1702 02:55:21,850 --> 02:55:30,720 specifically, I'm giving the currents, when we designed this, on the site of the lung 1703 02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:36,120 near, this is a structural engineer that helped me use the design of this because that 1704 02:55:36,120 --> 02:55:43,180 will be using the majority of that, we given the intertitled nature of the, and the 1705 02:55:43,180 --> 02:55:49,160 impact within the intertitled zone here, and frankly, the cost of construction. What we did is 1706 02:55:50,300 --> 02:55:56,560 maximize the, we need to stay longer to minimize the amount of ground impact. So we only have four 1707 02:55:56,560 --> 02:56:02,500 bets, which are Australia on the next stage. You only have four points of ground impact 1708 02:56:02,500 --> 02:56:07,060 for this tier because you're up on the ledge, I'm above the highest highest level without a 1709 02:56:07,060 --> 02:56:11,820 here, and then you have a miss, miss fan here, and then you have a end of that here. And so you only 1710 02:56:11,820 --> 02:56:17,060 have to get four points, so you're in fact a very small minimize that, and then you do have more 1711 02:56:17,060 --> 02:56:21,080 points as well, but that's the possibility that's almost, that's because of the old dark 1712 02:56:21,080 --> 02:56:21,940 kind of well. 1713 02:56:30,160 --> 02:56:33,840 There's different uses in there, which you can see in the middle of it, you can see it 1714 02:56:33,840 --> 02:56:34,560 in the middle of it. 1715 02:56:35,600 --> 02:56:39,760 It's a real lot of area of the children, again, who wouldn't get in my approach, and then it shows 1716 02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:44,060 that the kind of don't highlight things, and then it shows you the connection to me wouldn't 1717 02:56:44,060 --> 02:56:46,300 be here, and in plan to do it. 1718 02:56:46,300 --> 02:56:52,540 And then it shows us in a profile that you can see, again, how it makes the approach and the 1719 02:56:52,540 --> 02:56:57,140 down to your boat a lot more smooth than just better for your access. 1720 02:56:57,860 --> 02:57:01,420 This is a detail of the current two when it comes to the piles. 1721 02:57:01,720 --> 02:57:08,200 We call it a bed, but the piles with the header is only four piles that touch the ground 1722 02:57:08,200 --> 02:57:08,600 here. 1723 02:57:09,020 --> 02:57:10,660 Again, I've been scrubbed in my syntax. 1724 02:57:11,400 --> 02:57:12,440 There we go. 1725 02:57:12,440 --> 02:57:19,180 And again, just, they all felt a bit of a cost, as well, and they all, we, 1726 02:57:20,860 --> 02:57:22,140 some, they will clear. 1727 02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:29,160 But, in terms of the length, we had established just like the area on the T's, the gangway 1728 02:57:29,160 --> 02:57:31,780 and the flow of the order to get, that's known as the T's. 1729 02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:34,800 But, what about that, what do we need to get to? 1730 02:57:34,880 --> 02:57:36,760 So, I want to make sure that it was usable during the whole time. 1731 02:57:36,980 --> 02:57:39,700 So, you had to extend that up far and get to that point. 1732 02:57:42,520 --> 02:57:51,180 Rachel did pass around A, U.S. to the hard pass to the approval case of this, or at least didn't have any negative improvement. 1733 02:57:51,440 --> 02:57:52,340 Approvalment of the right term. 1734 02:57:52,520 --> 02:57:54,880 You didn't have any negative take of it. 1735 02:57:56,420 --> 02:57:57,500 So that's that. 1736 02:57:58,900 --> 02:58:00,180 Any, any questions? 1737 02:58:00,980 --> 02:58:01,480 Well, the application. 1738 02:58:05,920 --> 02:58:06,640 We'll just, yeah. 1739 02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:10,720 We have submitted the D, D permit and you want to go for a permit. 1740 02:58:10,880 --> 02:58:11,980 So those are kind of recently. 1741 02:58:11,980 --> 02:58:15,760 Yes, we submitted all of them on 1742 02:58:28,350 --> 02:58:29,590 We're gonna do 1743 02:58:34,240 --> 02:58:34,550 Do 1744 02:58:41,530 --> 02:58:43,780 we have to do that if you destroy all here 1745 02:58:47,680 --> 02:59:03,020 It's a little bit more difficult having over rock, but it looked from a pretty tight to the neighbors. 1746 02:59:04,020 --> 02:59:07,180 I know it was tight. 1747 02:59:07,640 --> 02:59:09,380 That's where the number of the neighbors was? 1748 02:59:09,740 --> 02:59:10,180 Yes. 1749 02:59:10,180 --> 02:59:12,160 That was their dark. 1750 02:59:13,780 --> 02:59:14,080 Okay. 1751 02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:16,320 So I'm not there a lot. 1752 02:59:16,600 --> 02:59:17,060 I'm not sure. 1753 02:59:17,760 --> 02:59:18,520 And I can't think of anything. 1754 02:59:18,840 --> 02:59:24,060 You don't think through the condition that's sinking through or the approval checklist. 1755 02:59:24,780 --> 02:59:27,240 I can't think of the application. 1756 02:59:27,860 --> 02:59:29,140 Fish and wildlife everywhere. 1757 02:59:29,420 --> 02:59:30,220 That's stuff here. 1758 02:59:30,400 --> 02:59:33,180 Actually, some of it is a tougher spot actually. 1759 02:59:34,280 --> 02:59:35,800 There's that ledge out in front of it. 1760 02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:40,160 It wasn't the best place to put a boat in there. 1761 02:59:40,160 --> 02:59:41,340 I'll put it that way. 1762 02:59:41,760 --> 02:59:43,760 Looks like you're a few rocks to navigate around here. 1763 02:59:44,280 --> 02:59:45,040 Yes, yeah. 1764 02:59:45,040 --> 02:59:45,500 There are. 1765 02:59:45,800 --> 02:59:47,440 Try to do a lot of scenes in there. 1766 02:59:51,030 --> 02:59:51,930 I think you're doable. 1767 02:59:52,450 --> 02:59:53,070 That is doable. 1768 02:59:54,090 --> 02:59:56,290 And you have a large up top here in the one down here. 1769 02:59:56,690 --> 02:59:59,130 So you can see maybe you can see four of you right here. 1770 02:59:59,270 --> 02:59:59,970 See you're able to. 1771 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,120 The name of the neighbor, and I think he walked around the room and he went, yeah. He contacted me and he might be a little bit deeper, and that's all. 1772 03:00:05,880 --> 03:00:10,760 But he just, the bank is a bit of a road in there that the federal really is uneven. 1773 03:00:11,060 --> 03:00:13,740 It really went great for most of the walk-on. 1774 03:00:14,020 --> 03:00:15,960 Especially when you let this is a much better approach. 1775 03:00:16,120 --> 03:00:17,700 I'm saying it's tough to get to the other spot. 1776 03:00:19,340 --> 03:00:19,740 I'm sure. 1777 03:00:19,760 --> 03:00:21,400 I can't get to the other 1778 03:00:31,060 --> 03:00:31,060 spot. 1779 03:00:31,060 --> 03:00:32,540 Is this still just a recreational? 1780 03:00:33,440 --> 03:00:33,900 Just for a 1781 03:00:42,770 --> 03:00:44,170 few stages, straightforward, then. 1782 03:00:44,850 --> 03:00:46,170 Oh, I'm sorry. 1783 03:00:46,170 --> 03:00:49,170 I'm sure everything we say. 1784 03:00:51,590 --> 03:00:52,230 Go 1785 03:00:56,610 --> 03:00:56,830 ahead. 1786 03:00:57,050 --> 03:00:57,590 Go ahead. 1787 03:00:57,590 --> 03:00:57,910 Go ahead and change. 1788 03:00:58,130 --> 03:00:58,510 Questions? 1789 03:00:59,210 --> 03:01:00,570 Let's talk about the fine deal. 1790 03:01:02,030 --> 03:01:05,910 We did them before, but this is needed. 1791 03:01:05,910 --> 03:01:06,290 Yes. 1792 03:01:08,510 --> 03:01:11,390 We'll maintain safe and helpful conditions. 1793 03:01:11,990 --> 03:01:12,350 I agree. 1794 03:01:13,530 --> 03:01:16,970 We'll not result in a lot of pollution, a erosion, a sedimentation, 1795 03:01:17,090 --> 03:01:18,070 to surface waters. 1796 03:01:19,830 --> 03:01:24,070 Well, adequately provide for the disposal of all the waste water. 1797 03:01:26,050 --> 03:01:26,690 Well, 1798 03:01:32,760 --> 03:01:37,980 not having any adverse impact on spawning ground, spish aquatic life, birds, or other wildlife habitat. 1799 03:01:38,360 --> 03:01:39,840 Yeah, well, they're in the area. 1800 03:01:40,220 --> 03:01:40,740 It's great. 1801 03:01:43,470 --> 03:01:49,830 We'll observe shore cover invisible as well as actual points of access to inland and coastal waters. 1802 03:01:50,510 --> 03:01:51,670 I'm here to update you. 1803 03:01:53,020 --> 03:01:56,580 We'll protect our theological and historic resources 1804 03:01:56,580 --> 03:01:59,240 that's the beginning of the town's comprehensive plan.