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26, first up is the invocation to pledge allegiance to Vice-Cham and Chris Wallace.

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what would come before you tonight, grateful and thank you to us that still live in this county and the city.

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I asked you they here and I would have this move over this meeting, help us to have clear minds, give us wisdom and discernment.

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Help us to do all things pleasing.

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I have a system G, isn't it?

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Okay.

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Well, congratulations.

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Okay.

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One patient.

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Okay.

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First up, this is going to be.

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I get you a.

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It's going to be a discussion possible with

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the reasons for the threat, so the home board,

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that was the goal of council in the middle,

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so that's a little bit of a introduces to this.

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Okay, I had a great meeting with staff about this last week,

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and then Mr. Chassee, I'm trying to finish this off with the president, sir.

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And what we were discovered, which I always appreciate,

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is that we don't have to admit that we have a lot.

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In fact, we have very good research that a report we found,

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that was prepared by South Carolina DNR and Cleansing University that had best practices for

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citing solar farms and reducing environmental and temporary impacts.

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So we took the changes we made were basically to refer more to that document, so we didn't

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have to rewrite things new, as well as just put some of the language that back there.

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So the main changes that happened from the last version is the concept of a wildlife permeable

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things. And we learned that there's a few different ways. You can be a wildlife permeable fence

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either by the whole fence starts one foot off the ground or you have wider areas with them.

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This prevents my backup. My goal in this was to make sure we can still encourage

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the development of solar farms if people are interested in sighting them, but that they are not

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disruptive to the world nature of the majority of our county. And so this is a way that helps

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make a compromise there, where wildlife can still move through the area, and the other issue

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has, is we don't want a situation where someone clears land, puts in solar cells, and then

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walks away, leaving it's faster. Most of them wouldn't do that, but if we want to make sure

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that the follow-up plan practices, and that language was in the document from DNR at Plumson

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as well with replanting of native grasses or pollinators on the type of plants that would

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help encourage or discourage erosion and encourage it to remain a national area. So we added that

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language in here and then ended up with this document and it looks like there's two options left at

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the end of it. Once you all have questions, I'd like to ask a question for a scholar about on how best to

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talk about safety and tests. Can any questions on that for you to catch the wind, gravel,

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And he was real happy with this version, I like it too.

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I don't know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Yeah, and one change we made is they start to 13 meters instead of 10, and that's because that's what the state electrical board starts considering them in 13 meters.

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So that's why that never changed.

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We have just come up with 10 and said we started to match to stay in mall, which is always, I think, best practice.

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My question in this dollar is on option one versus option two here on the fifth.

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Does staff have a recommendation on those two options?

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I think staff have a recommendation on one, but we found an information on it.

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That has the safety concept together.

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But we do not necessarily prefer one.

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Okay, my main question there is,

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the National Electronic Code and the National Electronic Safety Code.

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Anybody's going to have to follow this, right?

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Like, even if we don't spell out in the ordinance, you have to follow those, that's going to be with it.

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And stay law and their own law, that's standard, right?

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Yeah. So if to me, if that's the standard, they already have to follow.

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I don't think we need to take that effort to rewrite it.

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So if that's my

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motion, then, is to

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to approve the solar ordinance document as written using the option one text amendment for

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Article 60.

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Okay, so so basically we're really not voting.

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I'm sorry we're not going to.

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Yeah we have a second.

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Right.

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Is this different than the second draft we got?

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We've made a couple of revisions just that we need to speak and had it that word.

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So I wonder correctly and say that you want to change the draft for the next reading.

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Right, sorry. Yeah, it's probably the before it has become stirred reading.

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I would like that to me for her with oxygen wine at that texture.

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That's okay. Okay, it's been all the rest of the text that's in the past.

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And except for rest of the text. Okay, so I'll accept all the seconds. Any discussion on that?

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And they have one question. Was the rice bottom clear? Is there a concern that each album

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possibly get through that. Yeah, it's a one foot. So yes, they could. I guess that's a concern.

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Our thought was more to ever building this, it's going to be their best interest to work with

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there and so it's happening in how safe it needs to be. If they felt like there was a real risk of

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break-ins, then they could choose the different fencing version that doesn't happen. But I'm thinking safety

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and or then. Right. It's right. Six inches. Yeah, that would be. It doesn't have to be raised,

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but it's just one of the options. It can happen. Well, the option one is, is the one you

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want to do. Option one, you then get to pick up the option. You can do raised on a large mess or

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have passageways. So basically you're just going to leave option one in there. Yes. Okay. So

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option two goes away. I'm sorry. The whole option one then has three options within it. Okay.

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So if you're on page five. So I'm sorry.

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So this option two's going away. Yes.

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There are two different denominations, but each definition has options within them.

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Okay, so you're saying the second definition often, just going away.

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That is for mentioned.

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Okay, sorry if I just need to know what you're doing.

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And your reasoning was the code already in option two, so it's redundant.

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They're already going to have to follow all this.

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So at that point in option one, we would have to do one or three.

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And we're not doing that tonight.

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No, no, no, you can lead that.

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This can't happen.

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Yeah, this doesn't.

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So they don't.

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Yeah, they don't.

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So, if they have, if the developer has more concerns about safety or sighting wherever they can, use which one of these best matches, what their insurance requirements or what they are, but we're saying you need to have seven kind of where I'm like best.

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Well, I guess my concern with this is probably going to be here.

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Oh, nobody's going to be around it, so if the less likelihood of somebody get in it, it's better to see.

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Uh, pinging.

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Any other questions for that?

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So we're going to screw that.

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We're going to screw that provision.

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And it's off to third reason.

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In whichever region right here.

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It's the same sign.

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Passage units.

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Okay. Next up is going to be.

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Let's take a look at the item 2B, it's a light keyweak, and you'll pass me over the way

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district.

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This is a goal of council lawless and myself.

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Let me start on this, and I'll explain to you a lot of key for you.

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This process began with three public meetings at the March April and May.

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There was state hold of me between administration and staff as they were both there.

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There was some initial counts of discussion and from that the staff created a draft overlay.

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We don't start with like a page, it starts with usually something the staff will write.

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Big of picture, you have to realize, underneath, every overlay is a 350 page developmental standard portrait DSR.

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There's a 41 page stormwater ordinance which governs planning use across the entire county.

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that includes the lights. Now, the protections in those documents you will not see

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restated in the overlay because that would be was done to put it in two places. So the

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draft is only additional protections that you would see on the light goal. Now, this tool

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alternatives in the packet today for the overlay, the first tool alternatives from the

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Second reading in June 29, July we didn't address station or talk about it or meet about it.

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I don't understand we had a public hearing, but we had some speakers step up, and at that

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meeting, we asked the administration to keep the set back and the structure is equal to 50 feet,

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as it is in the DSO and the stormwater ordinance, and the majority supported that.

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At that meeting, I tried to formally put that into the over-trapped, but that was not

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Wow, this is the appropriate time to do that.

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So the second one will turn to the living's packet,

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keeps the set back at 50 feet per second,

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underlying DSO as well as the strong one will work.

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So tonight, what we'll do is we'll do

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we just stick with that other one.

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We'll discuss the overlay changes to the draft.

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And we'll go one at a time and we have any changes today.

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So when I want to address first,

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is the 50-foot set back, which is the second

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I'm going to turn it as a carrier of metal.

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I'm going to make a motion.

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But I continue in that discussion.

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My motion is going to be accepted to accept the second-level term,

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which in page is 22 to 33 in the packet.

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Do I hear a second on that?

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No, that's what I could do.

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Okay. Any discussion on that?

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So if you're talking about 7.4,

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now I'm talking about the old term, the school term is the old term,

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which is the second reading,

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which was the original graph of the change we made up into that point.

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And then there's the second, second, all part that was just basically the same thing,

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but section 7 looks like it's different.

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That's quite a different.

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So what happens is, section 7, because the way it was drafted initially,

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was a hundred foot separate.

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So the idea is only, only, has that wording in the first fifth seat.

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And to the overlay, you got to rewrite it all for the next 50 feet.

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Now, if you don't do it for the next 50 feet,

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all that language drops out because it's in the underlying DSO and still more importance.

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You understand that?

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Yes, but when I read it, the underlying DSO, which is such an important,

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is a 50-foot setback, but a 25-foot buffer.

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So we have been talking about a 100-foot setback and buffer.

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So if you go back to 4-10, then you're not.

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You're taking setback that case of heat and you're taking the buffer that's not happy.

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Was that, was that your intention?

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To keep it the same way it is now.

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So the same way it is now.

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Fifty foot setback 25 foot.

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And then what's the way that version is too is the way she sets up this sewer on the 75.

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I believe these had to 75 feet.

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That's somewhere in de-half regulation.

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So you wouldn't put that in this order that's because we're going to keep that the same.

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Okay, my other question about that is on your red line version where you get rid of a muscle of 7.4.

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It actually had a lot more language than Section 14, like specific language about buffer stabilization and origin, full of restriction messages.

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I'm sorry.

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That's in store.

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Mayors.

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That's in 15.

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And such 15 of the stormwater awareness?

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So, thank you. I didn't see that in the fourth time.

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So, you're saying that all of the things listed under exceptions are spelled out in stormwater already.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Removal of damage trees, removal of noxious vegetation.

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It's almost word for word.

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It's great.

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But I confirmed that it didn't numbers well.

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So to be clear, if we pass this new version, that means this conversation started out with a hundred

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proof buffer and a hundred-foot setback. And now you all want to move it to a 50-foot buffer and 25-foot

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setback, putting it back. Sorry, 50-foot setback, 25-foot buffer, putting it back where it was before we had a

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conversation. Well, not really. I mean, I don't remember it's really talk about it. So, but it got in there was probably

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mentioned in the meeting about his version, and I don't remember talking about it in detail,

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but the whole reason we put this in.

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But I wonder if you voted no one would.

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No, I'm not saying I support my community.

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I'm saying I'm just going to clarify this after all of this public input and after three

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months of this being the number one thing we talked about.

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We're going back to the exact same language that was already in the UDSL.

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And it already does have some additional prohibits

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prohibiting prohibits, you know, some clear cutting.

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It limits impervious services.

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No, no, before I put that, I'm going to just about the buffer in the set.

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Yeah, the buffer in the set, background effect, exactly what we were

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before we did. Yes.

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So anything we were saying about needing this in order to protect water

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is no longer of like no, because that's fertilizers in their pesticides

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and full construction means more sedimentation

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all that stuff and protect the water, but you gotta remember that. I was the one that was

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been talking about years, things beyond the earth. I've been talking about habitat, I've been

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talking about the viewsheds, the beauty of the area, you know, all those things are important,

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and this will do a lot for that.

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The order is just one part of it. And honestly, the order is never done. I could really never make a drum on it. I did on Highway 11. I remember because I worried about over the development and trying up the order table, because I said I want 600 feet on my well, although a few thousand houses up there, people aren't going to have water. So that's my answer.

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Okay, so if we're just changing everything back to where it was, we're saying everything. I don't think there are three examples.

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So we probably need to go through a lot of the way Rads tape and delete anything and talk to a lot of coffee and drink.

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Because I think some of this actually does help good work.

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If you have less construction and less land, we really need to have less water off.

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If you have commercial, you need to have a huge parking lot, which is going to give you one off this old.

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There's a lot of other things.

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It's just the point. The reason why I want to, I don't know how much of that, but when people

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call this, it's a watch 90, 90 feet steep, and if we go to 100 foot, set the act, they can't

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build anything. And generally, I don't want to pass legislation that prohibits people from developing

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their property at all. And I believe that would be illegal, so we can't do that. And then,

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you know, if it's three lots, maybe you give them the variance, but if it's 30% of lots,

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do some change to rule, so that was the logic on that.

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To be clear, I'm not.

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I do think a hundred feet was too big.

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I'm just surprised that we're, after all this,

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we're back at where it was before.

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Just some kind of, it's a working progress.

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And I have a lot of questions, you must have,

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I'm like, you know, it's valid.

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Now I hope you go down the long list tonight.

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I think things will more likely change in the beginning.

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I would love, I think we should do that.

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and how people are wanting to have any language and directors use.

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So I'd love to hear your feedback.

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I have questions about the intent of it.

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And it's important that I tell the gentleman on the phone

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to desk that the discussion has gotten hijacked by several camps

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of people.

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And we've got a way, we didn't, but the discussion and the public view

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of this, is that we're targeting one potential project, and that's because now I wasn't

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my intent, still in my intent, but that's what the public thinks.

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That my commitment into this was about the sort of, you know, looking for a lot of bucks.

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Now, we've been working on that, I mean, it's up and down and all over the place, I've got

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a lot of questions about, it crosses 180 to 3 a couple of times.

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What does that work like?

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And like I said, Michael, I think you're going to be probably going to leave me.

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And I'm hoping that we'll have another meeting, or we can come back and I can say,

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this is what we've got now, this is where I'm at, and we can move forward.

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That's just a fraction of what I've got to question why.

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But any other questions?

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And I've already said, with you to go this route,

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I

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mean, I've got, like, I've got a whole bunch of questions about this, but what you're trying to get us to that on its push version to do?

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Yeah, basically, the version, the version is on the, yeah, the two are basically the same.

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Once you go from 100 to 50 feet, you get the second version, and a lot of learning drops out of it because it's in the underlying DS7.

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So I explained all that.

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Let's go.

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So you wouldn't repeat it.

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Now, if it went to 51, see all that new little, all that language would have to go

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right back.

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Because you're getting that extra foot, which is being covered in the DSR's normal.

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You can see it up to put all that extra foot.

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Now, go on back to 50.

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You take all that out.

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Okay.

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Just, I have a cup.

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That's my only problem.

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I have other changes I want to make too.

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We can go on one at a time.

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But I rather than just do like we always done with trash.

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Okay, in terms of which one of these jigsaw, there are a couple other things where we moved

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the view lines, is that in the stormwater?

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The view lines.

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The jump points, except existence, is that in the stormwater as well?

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It's the view, it's the view, it's the view, it's regulated.

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So we're just not going to read this now.

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Okay.

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Okay,

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so all we're deciding right now, in this vote, it's the 100 feet and then all the things ever sacrificed by that change.

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Yeah, I have two of the things that I want to change soon, but was it wanted to pop?

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Okay, any other discussion on it?

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Those are February's right hand.

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We're proposing something to that.

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Next item.

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That's the one where you want to go.

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I'd like to go later.

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I don't know what's up another one.

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It's just a bit in the warehouses on page 2 to 6 warehouses.

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I would end with the public here on the floor of this third 2020.

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That's about 20 different meetings.

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Public meetings.

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That would say that was the one.

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We got public inputs for specific work here for that.

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Where do you have to pay two?

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Pay two.

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So it's pay comes on.

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That's exactly the other thing.

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that we have.

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Do you have a number 12?

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No.

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And that's going to be the where, on the specific occasion.

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Yeah.

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Would that the one on a tree?

315
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Yeah.

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That's what I'd like to do is add that.

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Just to make that more complete.

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That's fair.

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I'll take it three.

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So I'm going to make a motion to add that.

321
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It's the six where as on that page.

322
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That was a public hearing.

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I'm all the 3226, which is clean that up a little bit.

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So I hear a second on that.

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I hear that.

326
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I need to start showing it.

327
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It was a favorite right hand.

328
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It was a course hand side.

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Anybody else have anything?

330
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No, I just want it.

331
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I got that.

332
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I'm happy to go last.

333
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No, go.

334
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I don't have to go.

335
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I don't have to go.

336
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Okay, I believe we should remove the words recreational opportunities and tourism from all of the warehouses.

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That's number four, number eight, number ten, number 13, because when y'all voted to get rid of it,

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this in a version of commercial or multi-family, then you basically said you don't want anybody

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human tourism on the lake or visiting it, so I think it is disingenuous to have it in the

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wearout statements. Somebody travels about and puts it in a water that's not somebody.

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We have one public arena on Lake Keyway, which is my own Creek Park, a community count.

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Sunset, something. Sunset, but Sunset is interesting. It's spending when I'll be made

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possible by this, the County County.

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As seven, ways that you can access the lake. So we are making it harder to access the lake to public. We're making it harder to access the lake. We're making it harder to have a meal on the lake. We're making it harder to visit the lake. So it seems really wrong that all the warehouse statements should say that we are trying to add recreational opportunities or the tourism contract.

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You're moving any possibility that a paddleboard rental company, a small restaurant, a public marina,

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in none of those places can go in when y'all voted to remove any opportunity for commercial.

347
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You said single family only, let me answer this. If we change this, you've got to vote for this.

348
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Yeah. Okay, so we're going to make a bunch of changes.

349
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And at the end, you're going to vote now.

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I'm going to try to protect y'all from having wearouts.

351
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I don't need protection.

352
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The county needs protection because we're going to get so we know.

353
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If we are saying this is for the promotion of the tourism economy,

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and then we also say that all commercial is against the roles, then we are.

355
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Do you see legal liability on that?

356
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Any other question?

357
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Do I get liability on the moving towards

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and the vaccination from the rice solving?

359
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No, she can get in there while also providing all.

360
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I'm going back to the registration.

361
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Those benefits are being included in the registration.

362
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I think my creation is important.

363
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It can be used for a family, because that's not a kind of networking that values.

364
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Well, it is.

365
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Okay, let's take a look at that.

366
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Where Ed, let's see.

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At the number age says the county council finds the unique character

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at the Lake area of this derived from the combination of our military sources.

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Seeing the commission's recreational opportunities towards

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connectivity, residential communities, wildlife and public access to the lakes.

371
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Again, that seems.

372
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What do we have public access to like, so also?

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Because we've got a public access.

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You have a croaker, which is not our part, it's a state.

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Say that it's public access.

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Say that data coming into account.

377
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Yeah, that's a big answer.

378
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That was a big answer.

379
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Then we have my own croaker, which is our part that we operate by five to two garrisons.

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And then you have a warpath like in which we are in the process of taking that for operation.

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So those would be the three that would be public on our side.

382
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like there's a couple other access points that are not public,

383
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they're more private, you know what I'm gonna control with that.

384
00:25:21,940 --> 00:25:25,620
Yeah, you're like, I like that I like that I like that I like that I like that it's not really trying.

385
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That's what I'm saying, that's what they're taking with all of the people I should want to say that.

386
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Right now, yes.

387
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Okay.

388
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The whereas number 19, which is on page three,

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It's right in the middle, whereas County Council further finds developments, standards should be practical and

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forceful consistently administered and based upon an identifiable impact to public resources rather than subjective or arbitrary criteria.

391
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I personally have not been given an impact statement of what a commercial development would do to the lakes,

392
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and was wondering if anybody else had identified what impacts to public resources to back this statement.

393
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Okay,

394
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so we should probably delete that whole sense and ended after consistently administered.

395
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Better find out what did I did if I will impact that would even be better.

396
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I would love to see if we can have a general impacts of how a commercial or a set of maybe condos or townhouses are going to impact other resources and their heat.

397
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So we all have those impact statements that would be great.

398
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We'll be moving forward next time.

399
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We'll see it in order to make number 19 relevant.

400
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Similarly, number 21 to down where it's kind of council finds the adoption of this.

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It says, well, by providing development standards to the unique characteristics of the characters,

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while preserving opportunities for reasonable growth, investment,

403
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recreation tourism and development. I think no preserved opportunities for reasonable growth

404
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investment, recreation tourism or development when you completely ban all commercial with

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no ways of doing that. So that's again, if y'all are going to do that, I think the period should

406
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be after a lake areas, because we're not preserving any of those things.

407
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Reasonable growth, you'll be able to continue to have residential growth and then outside the

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to lay the hot growth as well.

409
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Where this is not about outside the earth or where I want to see inside the

410
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other land, do you only have single-family homes?

411
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And that's no growth because it's the land that's already bought.

412
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There'll be no investment.

413
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The people that own the land will be built as hell.

414
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That growth?

415
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Yeah.

416
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It's tax revenue, bro.

417
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And in the house.

418
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Is there a problem?

419
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Is there a problem?

420
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Yes.

421
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I would consider that growth.

422
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Okay.

423
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What about investment?

424
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There you guys build these things across the planet.

425
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they're buying the land from people to build their hotel.

426
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:10,330
Okay, so maybe the word did I would say it could sit to sit commercial investment.

427
00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:11,610
I think you would.

428
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That would be.

429
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But that's not it.

430
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I just mean development.

431
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That's the dog.

432
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Listen, I'm getting a lot of questions about the warehouse statements.

433
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And they need their setting.

434
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That's not for why we're doing this.

435
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I consider it.

436
00:28:26,890 --> 00:28:30,470
We just voted to take this back where it was before we had an overlay.

437
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I'm just trying to really clarify why.

438
00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:32,930
It's not that.

439
00:28:33,490 --> 00:28:37,890
It's back and where it was in terms of wire protection and buffers is that.

440
00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:42,240
There's anything else here.

441
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,140
Yes, I have some questions to answer to.

442
00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:47,440
So this came up.

443
00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:51,880
I want to understand, we're talking about 30% of your locked in for these sorts.

444
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If your house are that 30%.

445
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Yes.

446
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Okay.

447
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So to me, this spirit of this,

448
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I mean, the house itself is not creating a bunch of runoff problems.

449
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:12,480
The runoff problems are if you have scrolling, driveways, if you decided to build a giant

450
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,380
basketball court, if you decided to have a telepad, whatever it is you're doing on your

451
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fancy-like property.

452
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,020
We're trying to limit that.

453
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:31,420
If you're health itself, health is at 30%, then basically we are encouraging people to have

454
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:33,740
It's not being able to build their drive license.

455
00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:36,500
It's never my attention, and I came to y'all about it.

456
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,900
Now I do know, so I guess my question is,

457
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what is still be environmentally helpful

458
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to restrict the amount of impervious services

459
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:47,340
that exclude buildings from being hard?

460
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,100
You're arguing right now is you get runnels from roofs,

461
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400
you get runnels from driveway, that's the reason.

462
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,620
I just listen to you for 10 minutes saying

463
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that we're taking everything that's reserved to water,

464
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and you propose.

465
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It was something that's actually going to harm the world. I'm clarifying. You know, if we take out the houses, the houses are roofs. I mean, a half an ankle off, 30% is 6600 square feet foot print. That's pretty big. Yeah.

466
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:27,960
And I can go up another 15%. So, I mean, I would say most houses now probably aren't even close to that. And then probably pretty big, but they probably go up a flash. It's a point. They don't scroll out.

467
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:37,960
That's my thing, but I think what you'd be arguing there is, basically, a loud, more

468
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,940
impervious services and more run off and more of the problem that we're trying to solve.

469
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,460
Well, that's a great one. I haven't. When I've got this, we haven't seen anything

470
00:30:47,460 --> 00:30:52,580
that describes exactly the perfect 30% came from. That's the best practice.

471
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:57,940
That's the best

472
00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:03,340
question. Anything that creates runoff, it doesn't naturally go into the ground impacts.

473
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Okay. What I'm done. So that's why we included those structures to plan this one

474
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,940
on our project. This is to get that as close to zero as possible to zero impact even

475
00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:18,860
when you build. Okay. That means that's important. What is for any particular

476
00:31:18,860 --> 00:31:22,840
lot? What is the percentage? Is it 30 now?

477
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,600
I doubt I don't have a chance to do this on this page from that.

478
00:31:25,780 --> 00:31:27,700
Let me ask you a question about that.

479
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,840
Now, this is the way I understand it is.

480
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,080
Duke energy has to do nothing up until 800 feet or anything else.

481
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:37,260
It's above sea level.

482
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:42,840
Now, my understanding is if you, if you're on the property before they came, it's 800 feet.

483
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160
If you own it after, I'm going to say it over four.

484
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:47,000
Think that's correct.

485
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,560
There's three levels.

486
00:31:48,780 --> 00:31:50,960
This three levels in our 801 as well.

487
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,920
I think it's the eight-word.

488
00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:53,520
Eight-word.

489
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:58,080
Then, it's 50 feet from the county and usually eight-yo-a gets it.

490
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Correct?

491
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,620
But I don't think the HLA is either two of the county.

492
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,820
No, no, no, no.

493
00:32:04,820 --> 00:32:08,560
It's a C-P-D-E-D-A-R.

494
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,000
You can look at the eight, eight hundred and eight, outs, yes.

495
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,840
And then after that, you got the county 50, and somebody's age, you're wasted 50.

496
00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:19,500
On top of the teacher.

497
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960
And then some of them are not, I know they would have our 50.

498
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,840
So, I'd always never get 50%.

499
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Now when I get everything, everything.

500
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:31,040
So, the 50, so it's 51.

501
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:38,400
So within the 50, you can't have an impervious structure or

502
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,800
correct. So a lot of times like I look at an area and you'll see a concrete road

503
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,920
it stops probably 51 feet and then after that it's ground without the correct.

504
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:57,760
Yes. Okay. So when you read the 73 it's written incorrectly. The extra 15% doesn't

505
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:07,340
come from within the 50. After the 50 when you've had 30 surfaces, then you can add 15%.

506
00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:14,220
You see the way that's written, it actually says within the 50, but then the 50 you can't have in perfect services.

507
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800
So you're really talking about above 50.

508
00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:20,200
Right, that, are you talking about 60?

509
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,180
Yes, yes.

510
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,140
That's, if they're going to expand on what there's already to 60.

511
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,940
Yeah, but we think that already exists now.

512
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:27,740
They're going to expand.

513
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,100
But you're talking about them expanding above the 50 feet, right?

514
00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:36,580
Because then they can't do anything within the 50 feet.

515
00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:44,420
are you addressing a non-conformant or obvious surface, I read it as being a non-conformant.

516
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,260
But it doesn't understand that there's a man that exists in a non-conformant act, but

517
00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:56,400
let's say somebody's a 25, and you're saying he's got a corner of his house there, and

518
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:02,420
he wants to put a padded in there, he's within the 50 feet, he's saying he's got 15% with

519
00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:05,860
But what does he have above the 50 feet?

520
00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:10,660
He's also got, he's got the 30% limit, part of it too, doesn't he?

521
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,400
You see, you know, maybe I'm wrong.

522
00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:16,000
No, I didn't understand what kind of 50 I did.

523
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,600
Well, within the 50, I guess if it's not in the form,

524
00:34:19,660 --> 00:34:21,160
he's got a part of the house in there,

525
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:22,500
and he wants to put patio there.

526
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:24,080
You're going to allow him to do that.

527
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,340
Existing legally established impervious surface areas.

528
00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:29,140
Is that what it says?

529
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:31,040
It says, let me say.

530
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,360
So they were legally established at the time.

531
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,820
and they would say, okay, affected day of the ordinance.

532
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:39,900
Okay, so that's basically, I got it.

533
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:41,640
What about a five to five to six feet?

534
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,660
They not get a 15% or two or no.

535
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,540
That's why I was just asking her to crisis it.

536
00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:52,520
I think it's above the eightles four, actually.

537
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,520
It's probably above the Duke level.

538
00:34:55,820 --> 00:34:57,360
So the name you're seeing in Clare Factor,

539
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,360
there's what, here's what's in it's what?

540
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,600
It's in the floor part, so it'll trigger.

541
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,320
Or what?

542
00:35:02,460 --> 00:35:03,980
It's in the upper side of the 50s.

543
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,440
I think C is intended to be for,

544
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,120
You've got to change for the court just because of something.

545
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,840
You know, some of the socials and natural things were existing on a long-an'tch and correctly stay.

546
00:35:14,420 --> 00:35:17,180
But the, I guess my point is that it says within the 50.

547
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,720
Right.

548
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,060
Now, let's say, let's say, your house, let's say your house is in half the.

549
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:26,040
And you built it at 51 to 75.

550
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:29,480
And it's got to be 30% of the law.

551
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,400
How to throw out.

552
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,940
Now, if you want to expand that 15%, but you allow them where does it say that?

553
00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:39,520
I don't believe that means you're allowed to expand in 15% but that's y'all decision.

554
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:41,440
No, no, no, no, okay, okay. Is that what you're saying?

555
00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:45,940
Okay, but you only have that expansion within the 50 feet?

556
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:49,040
Yes, there's already impervious circumstances.

557
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,920
In the 50 feet. Why are you allowing it within the 50 feet only but anything about the neutrality?

558
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:58,860
You are. You're allowing it above, but it's got to be limited to the restrictions here.

559
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Okay, but the after 15% that's just in the case where you may have a...

560
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,420
I get it, but because you use that extra 15% above the 15%?

561
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:11,840
No, then plan that situation.

562
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,060
This is talking about existing legally established appropriate service series.

563
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,860
Not news.

564
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:19,680
Okay.

565
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,220
It's the intent.

566
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,220
Now, I agree with Ms. Fowl, it might not mean.

567
00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:23,200
That's not going to be clear.

568
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:23,900
It's money, then.

569
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,440
It's clear.

570
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Yeah.

571
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:26,780
Big down.

572
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,780
Four, it should say what you wanted to say.

573
00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:29,460
That's what I don't know.

574
00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:33,520
But just like I said, my understanding is that if you're at 30,

575
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,420
People are saying both the health time and 30 percent, you're 51 feet.

576
00:36:36,860 --> 00:36:40,940
I read that as you can go another 15 percent, that's not the end of it.

577
00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:42,060
That's fine.

578
00:36:42,540 --> 00:36:43,720
I just want to make sure.

579
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,340
But you're only going to allow them that expansion within the feet of the authorities.

580
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,780
It's all in there.

581
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:49,900
All right.

582
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,880
And I end this.

583
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,260
That's fine.

584
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:51,980
Thank you.

585
00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:55,200
I had a question on that.

586
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,860
We had a question regarding is there a way to make this impervious purpose apply

587
00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:08,820
or a whole, like, a plan development, or instead of doing my individual thought, can't

588
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:14,720
do 30% of the entire PD, 30% or does that kill the effectiveness of it?

589
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,720
Well, the way it's currently written is pride myself.

590
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,260
So, if that's one vessel, the entire PD, then we could look at that way.

591
00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:29,980
But if they, if their intention is to, it's what it's called, it's what it's called.

592
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,820
So we have lots, then it would be July. For a lot would stay 30 percent.

593
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:41,240
Okay. Well, the thing is change, well, more or the, is that what you're doing?

594
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:49,560
Well, I mean, PD is that, that's commercial aspects on that. So I think that's a bigger question.

595
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,160
When you say PD, you're making a plan.

596
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,580
Right. So we don't know.

597
00:37:56,580 --> 00:38:00,720
Because I know that government has the big open space and that's all natural to rest a bit.

598
00:38:00,980 --> 00:38:03,640
If the houses are close together and they're working to more concrete there.

599
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,940
If they hit a percentage, all that's protected with this other part of us more concrete,

600
00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:11,100
or more impervious.

601
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,700
Like, is it better to do this as a percentage of a whole lot?

602
00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:16,900
Or, which is going to get us the better?

603
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:17,920
Which is going to get us the better?

604
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Yeah.

605
00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:23,800
Yeah.

606
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,720
I think we've still looked at her personal.

607
00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:34,300
It's just going to be broken down into a hundred and last, we'll look at a lot of them.

608
00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:35,240
It's very important.

609
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:36,880
Okay.

610
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:38,080
Five of them are excellent.

611
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,700
One more question before the PD portion.

612
00:38:40,460 --> 00:38:46,080
If I learned a lot about there are courbies, pavements, and chorus pavement options, those

613
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,120
would all be approved for it.

614
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,000
They don't count this.

615
00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:52,180
So you can fill the courbiest driveway and not have a calculator.

616
00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:52,980
Yes.

617
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:53,400
Sure.

618
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,020
I'm not going to have to.

619
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:55,300
Super.

620
00:38:56,020 --> 00:38:57,480
A four-planned development.

621
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,460
What if you have a plan development?

622
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,140
Where are you going to build?

623
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,260
I don't know what our minimum is.

624
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:05,100
And that plan development that community wants to have a dog.

625
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:08,300
We do not have a net.

626
00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:09,720
That's what we do.

627
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:16,320
I know, but dogs are here on that language we just cut out because of stormwater.

628
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:19,320
Does dogs have to minimize size.

629
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:26,240
It's the last bullet under the 7.4 that we cut out.

630
00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:36,820
Like, if you have a doc or if you had a clubhouse or if you had some kind of structure that served your community of the PD, are those commercial?

631
00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:42,640
Doc itself.

632
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:47,420
I think if there was a structure on the doc, yes.

633
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:51,180
So that means we split it in that?

634
00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:54,180
would there be a stroke or a roundabout?

635
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,740
When you say stroke or you need to look up, what's up the law?

636
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:04,140
It's going to be on the other side.

637
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:05,040
Are you saying that?

638
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:06,460
I think it's just about two.

639
00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:08,360
You've got restrictions on that too.

640
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:09,000
Well, yeah.

641
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:09,840
Thank you.

642
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Sorry.

643
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:10,880
You can all in place.

644
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,840
But I mean,

645
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,100
okay.

646
00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:17,880
So we're saying future communities,

647
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,920
we'll have to be able to put any resources here.

648
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:21,340
Yeah.

649
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:23,140
Because that's a commercial.

650
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:30,110
And then I just had a general question

651
00:40:30,110 --> 00:40:32,050
back to you on this path.

652
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Are we allowed to pass an ordinance that doesn't have a review

653
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,120
or an appeals process?

654
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,460
Like the first version of the first two versions of this,

655
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,120
we saw had a board of zoning appeals process,

656
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:50,600
where you, we said, we don't want you to ever do these things.

657
00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:52,760
We will consider a couple commercial options

658
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,520
if they touch the lake.

659
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,720
We have to go through the museum,

660
00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:56,080
which is what a county county does.

661
00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:59,240
Where a group of people work as whether or not it matches

662
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,780
this is what's our language, natural character and environmental interest.

663
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:06,200
We got rid of all of that, which means we also got rid of the entire concept of the BCA.

664
00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:12,080
There is, right, that appeal thing is in there, but it's not written in any of the, like, review criteria and stuff,

665
00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:13,580
so we didn't say what they were doing.

666
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:16,740
So is, can this exist that way?

667
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:19,020
Can you own it yourself?

668
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,260
No, I just want to say that you have a borders on appeals for anything that the D.S.

669
00:41:23,260 --> 00:41:27,980
that might have a specific negative impact on specific life that you need, that student remains

670
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:34,160
a, you know, like, for example, I'm going to use a bad example, Mr. Chairman. My life's 99 feet deep

671
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,060
and you've got a hundred foot separate. It's 49 feet deep and you've got people come to the borders

672
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:42,440
on it, but so there is still be able to do that. What the economy County orders have to

673
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,980
that balance. And I ask it, but that's not necessarily, you know, the things on how you all want

674
00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:54,780
structure, all of the policy measures, is you have a specific type of board of

675
00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:59,780
zoning field review process that is specific to that overwork. That won't do

676
00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:03,060
a way when you're administrative rights through the regular board of

677
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:07,740
zoning fields. That's still going to be there, but the B.O. is only counting method.

678
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:14,820
They simply gave that board of zoning appeals and enhanced power within them.

679
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,980
So to say, you wanted to do a commercial development, you wanted to build a small

680
00:42:17,980 --> 00:42:23,040
restaurant. We have prohibited that. Can you go to the VZA and ask for one?

681
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,720
The interesting question because is there a situation where the unique character of your

682
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:34,440
lot doesn't allow you to have a commercial development or is it just a complete prohibition?

683
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,360
We've got a complete prohibition. That's the interesting question.

684
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,800
It says that it says you

685
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,760
are right here in section nine that the whole appeals go to the board. There is a field process.

686
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,520
But we didn't write in any language for how they're going to review that before we had language

687
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,460
what is supposed to consider or not consider? We deleted all of that. So we set up an appeals

688
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:58,180
process with no language of what they should consider or not consider. That's face to what we have

689
00:42:58,180 --> 00:43:05,820
of the DSO. For the DSO, it's spelled out exactly what we want where and where and where. This says

690
00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:13,300
you can't ever have. Do we need to refer back to the DSO? And that solved that problem because that

691
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:14,860
I'm just going to put this one up like this.

692
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,080
I'm going to put it like this.

693
00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:18,720
I'm going to add that into the house.

694
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,700
What would you add?

695
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,740
Just where the reference where it is.

696
00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:25,640
Is it brought back into the idea for the field's process?

697
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:26,880
Okay.

698
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,460
I'm making motion to do that.

699
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:31,140
So still they know when to look.

700
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,800
You have a second on there.

701
00:43:34,060 --> 00:43:34,640
Just a second.

702
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,100
Can you discuss it on there?

703
00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:39,060
Well, my discussion that is unconcerned.

704
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:42,280
Several people didn't want the busier involved in us because they were concerned

705
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,400
that a small group of people would be making victims.

706
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:49,260
They were concerned as people could be subject to influence

707
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:51,180
or they would give them too much power.

708
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:52,960
People did not want a small group,

709
00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:54,500
even though we have these all over the county.

710
00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:57,500
They did not want a small group making decisions on this.

711
00:43:57,780 --> 00:43:59,220
The way you get around that in my opinion

712
00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:00,740
is to get them the exact language,

713
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,940
that's the kind of thing we do want, or don't want.

714
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:05,240
We would consider it under these circumstances,

715
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,260
but not under these laws, we don't do that when anything else.

716
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:10,620
But this is an overlay, this is different.

717
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:13,340
I really love them, does it have that, does it?

718
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Be the general, the general.

719
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,080
What is that about?

720
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:20,760
But I just, I just, so it's general feel of what I'm saying,

721
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,880
general feels with no language that we think anything that ever be okay.

722
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:26,340
I'm just not sure it's really not.

723
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:29,620
I guess what I guess will happen is that the first one may just claim,

724
00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:32,380
but look at this world, and I don't like the decision.

725
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,800
The real sense, no commercial episodes, just being out there.

726
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Well, they'll look at the circumstances hardship and other aspects

727
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,400
that they have to deal with always.

728
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,100
make a decision. I mean I like I said we didn't do this for highway a lot of them.

729
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,280
You first you started with saying it was no it was process. It's in here.

730
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,720
Then to make it easier so people know we've got a point to where they look.

731
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:55,120
Yeah, I don't want to go any further than that because we don't do that to anything else.

732
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:57,720
Yeah, I think the board is not going to be feels convenient for us.

733
00:44:58,620 --> 00:44:59,080
Good job.

734
00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:20,440
Okay, we'll go ahead. Yeah, we'll go ahead. No, yeah, I'm fine with that. And I would just hand in to your early question about just whether our order is to see the order you just always have at court to give to your efforts to county ordinances. And so long as we are continuously having a rational basis, then I think that I think we have recovered and things are successful.

735
00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:28,330
So we're going to add that language in there. Any questions on that, or any approach discussion?

736
00:45:28,330 --> 00:45:30,190
Actually, do you clear?

737
00:45:30,430 --> 00:45:31,050
I would just say that.

738
00:45:31,090 --> 00:45:32,210
I wanted to make sure we all voted.

739
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:33,330
Now, we're ready to vote.

740
00:45:33,550 --> 00:45:33,670
We're ready to vote.

741
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:33,890
We're ready to vote.

742
00:45:33,890 --> 00:45:34,130
We're ready to vote.

743
00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:34,350
We're ready to vote.

744
00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:34,930
All right.

745
00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:39,950
So, so far, there's been one.

746
00:45:40,750 --> 00:45:40,830
Three.

747
00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:41,530
Three changes.

748
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:43,510
All right.

749
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:48,240
Anybody have any of the discussion on this?

750
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,700
All right.

751
00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:55,260
Next item up is going to be two C, which is going to be hotels.

752
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,080
This is going to count the lowest.

753
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,820
So, you're going to figure out you claim that.

754
00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:08,620
What's the most important thing is that everyone else that we need, so I think playing

755
00:46:08,620 --> 00:46:14,360
staff that have more than to go on business, I'm

756
00:46:16,570 --> 00:46:18,670
okay with it the way it's ready to work

757
00:46:18,670 --> 00:46:19,450
on

758
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:26,360
it.

759
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,180
Okay, I'm fine with it too, but I thought you did a good job of it.

760
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,440
You know the place that we just, we didn't have any language at all, I think we even had

761
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:36,940
a definition.

762
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,700
No, because you never did that to me, I won't lost.

763
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,820
Now, I guess my only curve.

764
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,400
Well, I guess that question might sound good.

765
00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:49,480
I have questions.

766
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:50,760
They went out for under first.

767
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,960
I write that the standard appearance of the commercial development.

768
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,760
This is accounting is 50 feet.

769
00:47:00,860 --> 00:47:02,240
The models have been paid for mine.

770
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:02,980
Thank you.

771
00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:03,320
Okay.

772
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:06,340
So why are we proposing that a hotel has to be an under seat

773
00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:08,640
to all other commercials at 50 feet?

774
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:12,890
First, yeah.

775
00:47:13,070 --> 00:47:14,310
That's the question for that.

776
00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:19,870
I think we would like to see that there was a little bit more of the risk for hand condition.

777
00:47:20,770 --> 00:47:27,830
Her proposal has 13, 20, 20, 20, 30, 30, 20, 30, but I'm still using it.

778
00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:29,390
But I'm still using it a little bit more than we are, certainly.

779
00:47:32,810 --> 00:47:37,890
Based on the other, based on the research that happens on strong order.

780
00:47:38,070 --> 00:47:38,310
Yes.

781
00:47:38,830 --> 00:47:39,710
And you have some of that.

782
00:47:39,830 --> 00:47:41,030
We gave you some additional information.

783
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:45,790
So that's actually what you want that they're making in the package.

784
00:47:46,270 --> 00:47:48,530
It's a summer meeting.

785
00:47:48,650 --> 00:47:49,750
We call them powers.

786
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:50,670
We're referencing that.

787
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:53,590
It's three of these works that you wanted to provide.

788
00:47:54,110 --> 00:47:54,230
Yeah.

789
00:47:54,430 --> 00:47:55,850
That's a whole standard.

790
00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:57,070
Yeah.

791
00:47:59,410 --> 00:47:59,550
Yeah.

792
00:47:59,910 --> 00:48:01,810
So according to this,

793
00:48:01,810 --> 00:48:04,850
50 foot gives you meaningful fall water quality benefits.

794
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:10,650
That 100 foot for a lot of those significant areas for preservation.

795
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:17,150
Well, that would be a bumble for the folks who see that.

796
00:48:17,590 --> 00:48:18,830
Can we do that?

797
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:20,970
Does it want an impact?

798
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:23,870
Yeah, that's exactly what we're talking about.

799
00:48:25,210 --> 00:48:25,650
Okay.

800
00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:29,910
My other question is, I was, you know,

801
00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:32,730
I'm not an engineer, but from my understanding,

802
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:36,590
you can run a hotel on septic.

803
00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:39,170
You just have to fall to different policies.

804
00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:44,170
It was wondering why we were proposing not allowing us to tell what's up there.

805
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:52,170
Again, that was a recommendation that was in a planning commission one that we probably have a, you know, right there.

806
00:48:55,660 --> 00:48:57,160
Because Alex is my question for you.

807
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,980
Like the majority of your district is on septicry.

808
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,000
Is that for city?

809
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,140
Yeah, most of both wanted to through that.

810
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,960
So this is a way to make sure there's another tell us about 23.

811
00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:08,700
I didn't write it.

812
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:09,940
I'm just saying that.

813
00:49:09,940 --> 00:49:10,460
What do you mean?

814
00:49:10,460 --> 00:49:11,820
I don't know.

815
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:12,400
I don't know.

816
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,800
I don't know.

817
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,560
I don't know.

818
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,600
I said, exist of 40, I don't see.

819
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:22,640
Sigma depth sides are large, you're ain't doing.

820
00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:24,740
Is that an operating?

821
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,340
That was there.

822
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:27,720
They're just a set of depth.

823
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,840
And typically that would be typically you've

824
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,140
all know if you did not answer a area that does how.

825
00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:37,060
So the capacity.

826
00:49:39,340 --> 00:49:40,120
So the problem process.

827
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,120
Yeah, but it doesn't mean they can't, like, they're on hotels in the country.

828
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,520
Honestly, I'm just telling you what I think their adult process was that you're

829
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,040
wanting to be minimally impacted.

830
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,620
You're going to have to continue to double the size of the footprint of it for the second.

831
00:50:00,420 --> 00:50:02,900
Right, what's on with the whole county that we are no longer talking about?

832
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:04,820
The whole county.

833
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:10,120
Yeah, this is counting why, this is not one area.

834
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:13,680
But it doesn't eliminate big parts of the car, it's in so many parts of the county of

835
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,460
San Francisco.

836
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:16,140
Good.

837
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,700
You're done.

838
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:19,960
Okay.

839
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,320
I find that.

840
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,380
I find that.

841
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:22,880
I find that.

842
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,020
I find that.

843
00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:23,520
I think that.

844
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:23,900
I don't always.

845
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,600
They just look up there.

846
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:29,160
I'm sure they can never have a cell.

847
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,980
I find this kind of, again, is what we wouldn't talk about outdoors in the economy.

848
00:50:33,180 --> 00:50:35,040
We talked about the benefit of people visiting here.

849
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680
we're talking about, I mean, communications has done so much

850
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,280
and quite a little work on bringing people to pick

851
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,300
and county to face it.

852
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:42,620
We wanted to spend money.

853
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:47,740
I mean, this came up when we were talking about when Mr. Trump

854
00:50:47,740 --> 00:50:50,120
had a rally here and we're trying to figure out the economic impact.

855
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,640
One problem is it weren't a lot of hotels.

856
00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:53,800
And you were in that part of the county for people to stay in.

857
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,380
So they came and left.

858
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,380
And we missed an opportunity to work on it in touch.

859
00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:02,700
So like to me, if there's a few more hotels in the area

860
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:04,660
that tends to have a very positive impact.

861
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,660
They eat in our restaurants.

862
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:06,920
They buy our gas.

863
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,020
They enjoy the beauty that we're working so hard to protect.

864
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,880
And y'all were making it, I mean, not y'all, I'm sorry.

865
00:51:14,020 --> 00:51:14,780
We haven't voted.

866
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:17,160
Ban excepted me geographically saying

867
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,940
that they're not allowed in the sports of the county.

868
00:51:19,460 --> 00:51:21,020
And I think that feels like a little bit.

869
00:51:21,020 --> 00:51:23,460
I hear more on the blue, but just not on the perspective.

870
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,080
Right, that just feels like a little bit.

871
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,680
Definitely.

872
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,260
It's not a little bit.

873
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:29,160
I think there's an intent.

874
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,140
So we wanted to create some of their recommendations in touch, right?

875
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:36,700
But in terms of that, the staff have a strong set on

876
00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:38,700
type papers, I'll go through.

877
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:45,600
Okay, I mean, I don't think, I don't think

878
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:52,380
Avenue Hotel, where the enclosure to the municipality

879
00:51:52,380 --> 00:51:56,300
where there's just a set of system, a sewer system,

880
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:58,060
I don't think that the henders anybody

881
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:01,040
they can join the beauty of pick-and-spel.

882
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,520
I mean, I'm on

883
00:52:05,950 --> 00:52:08,690
anybody around pick-and-spel,

884
00:52:09,090 --> 00:52:10,230
stay in pick-and-spel,

885
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:12,810
out of the town that you'll all over the county

886
00:52:12,810 --> 00:52:14,550
to enjoy the beauty of this county.

887
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:17,010
I don't think that's a relevant argument.

888
00:52:18,850 --> 00:52:20,710
Where the hotel is located,

889
00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:25,650
if we had just five more hotels sitting

890
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:29,190
ground in easily limestone pecans.

891
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:38,380
Even liberty, nobody's going to put a hotel out of the middle of dates, right? I mean, it's just not going to be,

892
00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:59,940
so they're going to, they're going to feel closer to where there's, there's a lot more activity. So I would say, you know, pickings is, in my opinion, is a prime opportunity, because you have, it's a pass through to the lakes, right, for people to come and enjoy.

893
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:05,640
see any beauty and what we have here in Piccans County.

894
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,740
They're going to build one up in the hills of close to North Carolina.

895
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,720
Personally, I don't think that it's either going to be easy or do that.

896
00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:22,400
Just because of the training loan and the rock involved,

897
00:53:22,580 --> 00:53:25,900
if you're going to have to move to even built something.

898
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:55,520
I mean, just where we are in the state, any of us, it's just going to come and sense to me if you apply it says they're going to be closer to a sewer system and not be even an area where it's going to require to have a safety tank because that footprint is for their project is going to be way bigger and I would say a lot more expensive.

899
00:53:56,700 --> 00:54:00,220
I agree with you that it's going to make it less like little bits, like is it our drug?

900
00:54:00,540 --> 00:54:01,720
Do we have to regulate that?

901
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,960
It's the natural market, it's good to determine if they want investment in that amount.

902
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:11,940
So, we haven't had, we haven't had a second reading machine,

903
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:18,930
so that would be to tend it.

904
00:54:19,610 --> 00:54:26,430
We won't have a second reading on it, but we might need to make a recommendation to do the draft

905
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:28,290
It's like, are you?

906
00:54:28,370 --> 00:54:29,070
Tim tonight?

907
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:29,610
Yeah.

908
00:54:29,610 --> 00:54:30,330
Oh, yes.

909
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:30,690
OK.

910
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:32,250
I'm making a work of it.

911
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:33,410
I'm making a work of it.

912
00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:33,770
OK.

913
00:54:34,050 --> 00:54:34,910
I'll make a work of it.

914
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:35,710
I'll make that move.

915
00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:36,890
I'll text this.

916
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:39,730
I'd like to make an amendment that we

917
00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:43,210
remove language requiring public water and public

918
00:54:43,790 --> 00:54:44,270
server.

919
00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:51,630
You need to explain that already.

920
00:54:55,690 --> 00:55:00,670
For once, twice to your motion stand.

921
00:55:00,810 --> 00:55:02,270
You've done it in your second.

922
00:55:02,430 --> 00:55:05,110
Anybody have a further discussion on this?

923
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,380
Does the same rate right hand?

924
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:12,940
Does it close the same side, and passes on to S?

925
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Was that, did you, did you, did you, did you pass?

926
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:16,720
You opposed that was part of the quarter one.

927
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,700
Okay, next item up is going to be a list on this.

928
00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:20,940
That's just on that.

929
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,080
Right. Here we are in a second.

930
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,560
That's just maybe a quarter.

931
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,260
That's a question.

932
00:55:24,580 --> 00:55:25,460
I have some questions.

933
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:28,920
Next is three A.

934
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,420
This is going to be developmental area map with county district

935
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,240
Ors, council, letting you struggle throughout.

936
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:44,260
One of the big concerns when I was not the doors was controlling the growth of Dickens'

937
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:44,600
camp.

938
00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:51,880
And so in my district, we have a couple areas you can see on the map, on the left, those

939
00:55:51,880 --> 00:56:05,840
green areas where you can put eight houses per acre, which I believe is a place of very extreme

940
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:10,700
to manage and pawn power infrastructure in the account.

941
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:17,520
So what I have proposed in order to slow the growth that everybody is concerned about

942
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:24,700
is to change the designation for that area to an agricultural where it's one acre lots,

943
00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:30,880
which if you look north and south, it just blends right in on the right.

944
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:47,000
We'll dictate, and then there'll be one acre, one acre, lots there, and then you'll still have in the light blue area running north to south, between Liberty and Pickins, half acre, lots.

945
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:59,980
So you still have, you'll still have those half acre lots there, but we won't have the density of eight houses per acre, we'll have one house per acre.

946
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:09,260
which was in the pilot control density of our area in specifically in my district.

947
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:17,600
Okay, there's going to be a second reading, so do I hear a motion on that?

948
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,480
Make a motion that we accept, and then we map it.

949
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to second it, and I need to go.

950
00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:25,520
Yeah.

951
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,020
Okay, so I have a lot of problem that we're considering a singular map

952
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:35,460
when this map was the result of a two year discussion

953
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,280
as part of an entire review, yes.

954
00:57:38,540 --> 00:57:42,040
Now, staff started with proposal for that map

955
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,440
that we are far away from, and we ended up with something

956
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,840
that was done with a lot of politics,

957
00:57:47,180 --> 00:57:49,300
and a lot of change in my neighborhood changes in Syria.

958
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,720
So to come in two years later and change it

959
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,860
is to do something that didn't take into account

960
00:57:56,860 --> 00:57:57,860
the entire conversation.

961
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,940
If you continue to remove any density in account,

962
00:58:01,940 --> 00:58:10,700
You are saying that we only want one home's on one acre, which are around here are not going to cost less to $500, and they're only going to be.

963
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:18,380
We are making decisions to no longer have affordable, forget affordable, attainable houses in thick and county.

964
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:31,920
If you continue to expand to one house for acre, you're saying we would like sprawl because it's a lot harder for EMS and please and all this to do one acre separated, and you're saying that we would like all of our houses to be worth.

965
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,720
So that, I mean, it even landed to seven conditions, not individual lives, so many people.

966
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,720
Yeah, if you own your one life, yeah, these are subdivisions, which is how you more

967
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,160
affordably billed homes.

968
00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:49,800
It's a way, like, like, like, like, like, like, we just changed a lot, like, and that's not true.

969
00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:50,540
That's not true.

970
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:50,660
That's not true.

971
00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:51,220
Right.

972
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:57,040
And open three subdivisions already have 50% of the land that you cannot know.

973
00:58:57,580 --> 00:59:01,900
We already made where we said, we don't want strong.

974
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:05,840
We want houses to be near each other in one area so they can be open in the up.

975
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:11,260
If we require one acre lots and 50% sprawl, those homes are going to be way above.

976
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:19,300
Saying, you only the richest people who want to live on an acre, and who are allowed to move here.

977
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:23,760
And when you send your remains, just take one district and change it without changing the others.

978
00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:29,680
You made it even less dense overall and made all of the homes any future homes we've got more expensive.

979
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:39,820
We're not having a conversation here about going into any other areas and adding back the little more density there to encourage your space development that works or could possibly be affordable for anyone

980
00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:45,860
You're just doing it in one area. So you're you're you're not saying smart growth. That is not the word and it is no growth

981
00:59:45,860 --> 00:59:49,000
It is saying things do not live here and we hope your children don't want to appear

982
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:54,180
And we hope your teachers and your nurses don't want to live there because they're not going to be able to buy a house

983
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:59,140
And my little bit that I could control is basically drawing some more and all that.

984
00:59:59,440 --> 00:59:59,680
Now!

985
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,200
We didn't show anything else. We just made it harder to make a subdivision here, which I know everyone thinks that's a bad word, but those are the houses that I help my children come back and live in and they're not going to be able to do it here.

986
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:28,080
My second point is that, do you see how this previous green and over here touches the city of easily? You just made it harder for someone to build a subdivision? What are they going to do? If they all not land or sell that land? They're going to annex into the city of easily. The majority of complaints we get are people who don't want any message.

987
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,340
That is the biggest thing that is happening.

988
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:33,400
And when you make it harder to develop in the county,

989
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840
you incentivize developers and landowners

990
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,280
who have the right to make as much money

991
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,580
from selling their land as they want to get

992
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:43,180
and extend to the city to then be able to build

993
01:00:43,180 --> 01:00:44,940
denser housing that's actually more affordable

994
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:47,120
for the developer and the buyer

995
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,200
takes changes to property tax on it

996
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,860
and increases the size of our cities,

997
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:55,320
you just made it extraordinarily attractive

998
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,120
for city of easily to grow.

999
01:00:57,580 --> 01:01:05,280
And for all of that land around there to be annexed because everyone of those homeowners is going to want to get the most landowners going to get the most money they can and they sell it.

1000
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:10,080
So we have not only made it impossible for some divisions to come in affordably.

1001
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,260
We have not added density anywhere and we just incentivize the city of Italy to annex anyone who owns landowners.

1002
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,640
But cannot understand why we would do something in a vacuum.

1003
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,440
Because I just don't understand.

1004
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,580
I think a lot of your exaggerating in a lot of case.

1005
01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:26,060
For example, when you said,

1006
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:29,060
all these changes look the administration match.

1007
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,880
I didn't make one change in my district.

1008
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,300
That is what the administration proposed for me.

1009
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,040
Yeah, you're in the rural, it's district.

1010
01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:37,180
But what you just said, all these changes,

1011
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,540
that there was no changes at all.

1012
01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:39,920
Right.

1013
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Another second is, it was a one-acre minimum of 50% open space.

1014
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:46,320
It's up to digits.

1015
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,540
That light blue areas is hand-hater and it's 40%.

1016
01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:51,680
So again, that's incorrect.

1017
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:53,840
No growth.

1018
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:57,480
I mean, there's 308 premise issue for houses last year

1019
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,600
in the county area.

1020
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,220
So there's growth going on.

1021
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,760
It's just not wide open growth.

1022
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:02,960
It's just destroying the world.

1023
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,680
Unless they can't calibrate on Facebook,

1024
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,860
but you can manage my point, I'm listening to you.

1025
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,000
You want to just run over the rural list of this county.

1026
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:13,420
You want to destroy the tree canopy.

1027
01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:15,780
You can construct it and you want to get the roads.

1028
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:17,940
What does need to be light?

1029
01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:19,260
It gets what the nothing might.

1030
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:24,140
they're not going to be done. They can barely take them forward to stick. They're lucky if they catch

1031
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:27,700
them up on the highway, except for their roads to tell. So they're not going to be whining.

1032
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:34,060
It's just not enough. The infrastructure is being stripped. We've got to build another

1033
01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:39,420
resource. We have enough dump trucks. We're trying to catch up now in the future if it

1034
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:43,780
becomes a problem. Then we can ease these restrictions. But right now we're still behind

1035
01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:49,400
for so many different ways because this road is just taken off and we went from a period

1036
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,260
six years ago without almost no restrictions. We're just trying to catch out.

1037
01:02:55,660 --> 01:03:03,060
So I don't, I don't, I think a lot of what you said was exaggerated and true, frankly.

1038
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:10,980
I respectfully would the value, I have five acres with my house and I wasn't anywhere close

1039
01:03:10,980 --> 01:03:18,860
a million dollars. So somebody's going to pay a half a million dollars. I'm going to cut my

1040
01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:25,240
proper stuff and let him pay me a half a million dollars for four acres on my property and

1041
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:33,060
keep the one for myself. And I'll sell that and I'll leave your app a million here. I mean, that's

1042
01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:37,060
just ridiculous. So that's

1043
01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:42,820
why I think that was an extremely good thing.

1044
01:03:42,820 --> 01:03:52,200
When you have denser houses, that improves tax revenue to the county that allows you to invest in residential recycling centers.

1045
01:03:52,740 --> 01:03:55,520
A house on one acre does not pay for itself.

1046
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,500
That's what we were told by staff when we started the UDSF.

1047
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,300
A house on one acre does not pay for itself in terms of services required.

1048
01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:09,220
Now, the county is not in the bay bay houses on either wheel.

1049
01:04:09,740 --> 01:04:09,780
Yes.

1050
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:14,020
both the plot by how many acres of the so-called, how much strain is that going to put on

1051
01:04:14,020 --> 01:04:18,040
infrastructure, how much strain is that going to put on all the far part of the property in

1052
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,660
the house. That may not, that may not, that may not, that may not, that may not, that may not, that may not.

1053
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:29,260
They cannot be one of the main property taxes. But they also put a load on the existing infrastructure.

1054
01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:39,580
So you've got, I mean, that you cannot develop yourself in your prosperity. Right, but you have

1055
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:40,720
things to keep the county.

1056
01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:44,140
You can't.

1057
01:04:44,140 --> 01:04:44,280
You can't.

1058
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:44,400
You can't.

1059
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,260
Explain where you're wearing.

1060
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,460
I mean, that's what I'm saying.

1061
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:48,580
You're putting the additional strain on it.

1062
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:49,880
But let me stop.

1063
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:51,720
Don't pay for the strain.

1064
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,380
You can't.

1065
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:53,760
It's not.

1066
01:04:53,820 --> 01:04:57,340
You're not a little proud that you can not attack your way into prosperity.

1067
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,700
I'm not.

1068
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,040
It is not how it works.

1069
01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:01,660
I want to talk.

1070
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,400
I'm trying to attack.

1071
01:05:02,460 --> 01:05:03,720
I'm trying to attack the way into paying our bills.

1072
01:05:04,060 --> 01:05:05,520
I'm trying to think she said we needed to do it.

1073
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,480
Like it's banned drugs.

1074
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,720
You have to have a bigger tax phase to do that.

1075
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,200
or you have to increase access.

1076
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,800
The other day, the position of job will be left

1077
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,740
with our county council.

1078
01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:15,600
Do you want to expand your tax base or raise taxes

1079
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,700
after your treat for this?

1080
01:05:17,180 --> 01:05:19,240
At the time, we've got so many people moving

1081
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,360
to this area of the country, that that is not a problem.

1082
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,000
And they brought us to people with coming here,

1083
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:27,660
then that baby of problems.

1084
01:05:28,140 --> 01:05:30,900
But right now, that is not the case.

1085
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,740
Yeah, if you look at Anderson, Greenville,

1086
01:05:34,740 --> 01:05:39,640
what they did in the visual lots on septic.

1087
01:05:39,740 --> 01:05:41,520
Think Anderson went to an acre minimum,

1088
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,760
and I think wrinkles of acre hand.

1089
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,140
Man, nature, they're worried about

1090
01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:49,140
dumping all that sewage into the environment.

1091
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,340
Now, we're still at a half acre,

1092
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:53,860
so it's very generous relative to the surrounding county.

1093
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,320
So I agree with, you know,

1094
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,780
I think you're making a good point there.

1095
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,220
I mean, right now there's still building house

1096
01:06:00,220 --> 01:06:01,220
in a pretty good clip.

1097
01:06:02,940 --> 01:06:03,960
No, we manage our money.

1098
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:04,900
I think we'll be okay.

1099
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:10,020
I just, this idea doesn't want to just accelerate growth, it's just not a good idea.

1100
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:10,720
All right.

1101
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,520
I never said this needed to become denser.

1102
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:13,820
It's like, oh, I can never want that.

1103
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:19,040
I need to, you know, to see that you can't just keep jumping from eight houses and

1104
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,680
acres of one house and a completely changes the ability of people to have homes to live

1105
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:24,080
in.

1106
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,920
And Alex, you put on Facebook just the other day.

1107
01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:31,240
Thanks to the UDSO, we have slowed down applications for development only one that's

1108
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,360
made through the process at the time.

1109
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:38,660
that's sure about that. Right. So, so the map is working. Right. So why do we need to reduce it even more?

1110
01:06:38,900 --> 01:06:42,300
So what about that? What about that? That's working. So you have succeeded in slowing down current.

1111
01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:49,280
And the goal was really behind-unit infrastructure. People were unhappy with how we're just running

1112
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:54,320
over the world, this world, this is kind of changing. It's changing. It's going to happen. It's clear

1113
01:06:54,320 --> 01:07:02,000
cutting. So we took a decision made as you can three years ago. I came to some divisions too.

1114
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,080
make to lower the density and it's having the fact that.

1115
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,080
And I'm pleased with a lot of the work we did on removing clear accounting on having

1116
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,120
local space.

1117
01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:15,780
I think that repairing and said that there's a lot that I very fond that it's now and

1118
01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:17,000
with the work that we did.

1119
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,320
But at that point there's been a complete shift from that's put density in some places

1120
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,040
so that the place is going to be a more rural.

1121
01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:24,780
That's the trick.

1122
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:29,320
If you keep saying we want to protect a rural part of this county, the way you protect a rural

1123
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:29,960
part is a

1124
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,160
Nowing for it to be denser in other parts. And the best place to do that is around cities, including easily

1125
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,620
our largest South Booker meeting with the Department. Very important. Okay.

1126
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,400
It's his district. He knows its best in his district. Come on above for it. The problem you have in

1127
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:55,020
CUNSEN is the University wants to grow and grow and grow and grow. And they've run out of space. Where they're going to put these students. They've already

1128
01:07:55,020 --> 01:08:04,020
annexed to central and they got to grow up, they got to go up and there's this desire within the

1129
01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:09,860
cleansing apparatus, whether it's the school, the city council, the most of them anyway to reach out into the

1130
01:08:09,860 --> 01:08:14,840
county and make it dance so we can put more students in our school. People in my district don't support

1131
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:20,480
it. Okay, the university's big enough. Okay, if they don't have enough room there, that's their problem.

1132
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:28,660
thing to manage it. And I understand what you're at. You're right here. I believe you're part of

1133
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:33,160
that belief that I'm in clubs, but that's classical cities that continue to grow and everybody else

1134
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:39,060
is expensive. And I don't feel that, buddy. Just in the right area we have a lot more people than students

1135
01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:44,120
who live in clubs and one of the big problems is that faculty and families are being priced out

1136
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:48,880
because student housing is more expensive. So if you want your faculty and your families to live

1137
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,100
anywhere if you're. We need houses. Well, the school used to have about 20,000 people in

1138
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:58,840
the school. There were 29,000. Yeah, that's all. There's only 30,000. Yeah, and it's awful.

1139
01:08:58,900 --> 01:09:02,840
And I wish the state would talk for fire and come to the space. You're exactly right. I'm not

1140
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:08,260
saying I need y'all to build houses. Like, I mean, yes, the density is at the southern part. But if

1141
01:09:08,260 --> 01:09:13,420
you look at the comprehensive plans, we'll pick a county, which I ran when I was running for this

1142
01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:17,240
office. It says, the density should be in the southern part of the county and it should be

1143
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:22,180
to our two big assistants. That is what the comprehensive plan says. And you're going in, there's

1144
01:09:22,180 --> 01:09:28,580
nothing left, down by the county, partly because central annex some, and then because Mr. Wallace's

1145
01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:32,080
district, we voted that. I couldn't do anything about that, and then now you're going to the

1146
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,560
next to the city and reducing part of that. So we're not even following our conference plan anymore.

1147
01:09:37,420 --> 01:09:41,200
Yeah, I'll get to what you did that next year. When you made the conference a plan, did you talk to

1148
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:49,360
to see what they wanted, because I did, when I ran for office, I knocked on a lot of doors,

1149
01:09:53,740 --> 01:09:58,820
and one of the biggest responses I got was, thank you for wanting to slow the growth.

1150
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:06,180
I told them why I moved here, why I chose Pickin's County. I came down here for three years

1151
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:12,620
from North Carolina. Looking, because I heard about Marine boat, I saw it on my

1152
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:24,120
What a great small city you know, so I started checking it out. I went a bunch of different areas around and I kept coming back to pick his county. Why because of what we have here

1153
01:10:24,780 --> 01:10:26,820
three years I looked

1154
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:30,620
and looked and looked and kept coming back to pick his county.

1155
01:10:32,340 --> 01:10:37,860
And ended up obviously choosing to live in county because of the rural.

1156
01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:42,400
That's the right way to say it.

1157
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:48,140
This is the lifestyle that I wanted to live, and now that I'm here, I want to protect it.

1158
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:55,540
I had a lot of people tell me the exact same thing, they want to protect their way of life

1159
01:10:55,540 --> 01:10:56,240
here.

1160
01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:07,840
The problem is not loosening that density, you talk about the cities, they're going to

1161
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:15,380
that's going to be relevant. If we left that, it helps us per acre, they don't answer

1162
01:11:15,380 --> 01:11:20,200
anything. Because they see the tax revenue, just like you said, and I'm telling you,

1163
01:11:20,260 --> 01:11:23,800
you cannot tax your way into prosperity. That's common to me.

1164
01:11:26,420 --> 01:11:32,020
Now, anybody else have any questions? So this is going to be a second reading on this

1165
01:11:33,460 --> 01:11:38,140
The change, this delay is just for any other comments you put.

1166
01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:43,400
Okay, those are favorite right hand, those are both same sign of passes, the order

1167
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,180
one.

1168
01:11:44,460 --> 01:11:50,360
There are jammed and meeting, I'm going to make the motion to adjourn, set it, set it,

1169
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,820
I think the discussion with the neighbors right now.