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Here's the batch that you guys whoever
want

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» that's already been paid here.
>> Everybody's not

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» the reports.
>> Yeah, you got spares.

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» I got spares.
>> Thank you, sir.

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Okay, thanks.

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» Everyone at 7:01, so I'll call the
meeting to order.

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Um, do we have anyone here from the
Ministerial Alliance?

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I'm not seeing anybody. Andy, would you
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» I don't know. Thank you. If everyone
would stand for the invocation and the

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pledge,

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Father in heaven, we thank you, Father,
for the opportunity we have to live in

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the greatest country in the world and to
govern ourselves, Father. Father, we ask

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you to be with this board. Give us
wisdom and understanding that the

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decisions we make tonight will be the
right decisions for this county. Father,

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we thank you for your love for us and we
love you. And this we pray through

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Christ's name. Amen.
>> Amen.

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» I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Okay. Uh, Katherine, will you call the
role

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» here

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» mountain?

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Shepherd
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» Bartman
>> here.

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» Joey.

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» Okay. Our um first order of business is
a close session

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uh regarding the um FOP agreement with
the employees at the sheriff's

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department. So, if the board members
could please uh go into the other room.

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We need a motion. I know. And David, if
uh if you want to join us for this, that

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would be fine. So, do I have a motion to
go into close session? Seeing Tom. Uh

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second,
Derek. Any discussion?

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All in favor? I
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» Any oppose? Nay.
>> Motion carries.

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The streaming will remain on just for
those of you staying in this room

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» and we will be back just as soon as we
can.

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Cheers.

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special.

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Okay.

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» [sighs]

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[clears throat]

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» Oh my god.

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chair.
>> Not my chair may not make it through the

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night.
>> Yeah,

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it only raised a half inch when I sat
down. It's all good.

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And I'm excluded from work.

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There's another chair.
Squeeze.

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I was actually

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» okay.

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Okay, we are back in open session. Do I
have a motion to resume open session and

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close the end the close session? Derek
[clears throat]

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second.
Tom, any discussion?

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All in favor? I
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» Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries.

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Okay.
Then item five, discuss and possibly

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approve proposed sheriff's department
fraternal order police union agreement

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for fiscal years 26 through 2027.

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» Motion to approve
>> the contract.

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» Was that Tom?
>> Yeah.

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» Okay. Motion by Tom, second by Lance.
Um, under discussion, I would just like

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to say for the open session that we uh
have an agreement with the Fraternal

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Order of Police
um to

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uh form a contract with them for years
2026 and 2027.

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It is uh per the agreement. There are
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uh minor wording issues, but the main
points of the agreement are that for it

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would be a two-year contract.
For each of those years, there would be

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a 3.5% raise for those union members.
And the insurance wording in the

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contract would be the status quo.

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So, um,

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» it was approved this morning uh
unanimously, I understand, by the union

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employees at the sheriff's department.
And so, we're asking that uh the board

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approve it tonight. And also in
approving it uh the uh by doing so the

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union representative will work with our
legal counsel to finalize the contract

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itself and you would be giving me the
authority to sign

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um the agreement with the uh
representatives for the union.

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So we have a motion on the table. Is
there any other discussion? Jim.

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» Madame chair my no my vote will be no.
It's my standard policy to never vote in

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favor of a document I have not read. I
understand that it was approved this

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morning. It's impossible to have it in
our hands tonight, but that is the sole

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reason.
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And as Jim said, we would have liked to
have had it here tonight, but um

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it is it was just done uh this morning,
so that just wasn't possible.

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and we'd like to get this moving so that
uh we can

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uh respond to those employees with their
uh 26 raises.

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So um with that uh all in favor I
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» any oppose? Nay.
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» Uh Jim and Don or nay.

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So it is 4 to two and the motion
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Then item six,
further discuss and possibly approve two

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commercial solar energy facilities known
as Griggsville Solar East LLC and

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Griggsville Solar West LLC
and will be located in the southwest

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quarter of section 11, Township 4 South,
range 3 west of the fourth principal

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meridian, Griggsville Township on parcel
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located approximately east of Illinois,
Route 107, south of 325th Avenue, and

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north of 320th Avenue.
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I understand that there are
representatives here

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uh from the solar project who would like
to speak uh after they

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uh are heard. If there is anyone else
here who wants to speak on this matter,

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I would give them time now rather than
wait until the end of the meeting for

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open uh for public comments. Uh so we'll
take comments on this now and then it's

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our intent to go into close session to
uh discuss this, but we'll get back to

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that. So please, if you'd introduce
yourself and

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» Yeah. Hi, thank you so much for having u
me here. I'm Natalie Holden. I'm

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litigation counsel for Navison. Um we're
here regarding the denial of our permit

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at the July 29th board um meeting. Um we
have sent a letter addressed to the

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county um outlining our position that we
believe the denial was legally improper

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and that we would intend to be appealing
that denial to the courts. Um and we we

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are willing to litigate and we do stand
by our arguments. However, we really

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primarily just want to be cooperative
with the county um and work with the

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county to get this adopted.

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Um we think there's there's benefits to
the county and and we are a really good

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neighbor and we really like to cooperate
with the county and address any concerns

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with the county that they may have had.
But as I mentioned, we are prepared to

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litigate. Uh I did just briefly want to
go into our legal arguments. Um, so, uh,

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the public hearing was held on June
22nd. Uh, I was present at that hearing

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[snorts] and, um, as of the June 22nd
hearing, the Winnebago County decision,

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which Mr. Filbert referenced last month,
had already been decided. So, I was very

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aware of what the case law said. And um
the case law does say that counties can

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consider certain factors or standards in
approving the a permit as long as um

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those factors are adopted by the county
ordinance. And um as Mr. Filbert

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referenced again last week, those those
factors have been adopted by Pike

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County. Um we refer to them as the
hearing factors A through G. And um we

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were aware of of the law. We were aware
of the case law and we were fully

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prepared to discuss these factors if
they came up at the public hearing. Um,

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we prepared with the client before we
had evidence that we were prepared to

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discuss with the with the public if any
of the public commenters raised concerns

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about the factors. Um, and like I said,
I attended that hearing. I'm an

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attorney. My primary goal when I was
there was to listen to see if any of the

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hearing factors were raised and if
needed we as I mentioned we were going

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to address them. Um that night only two
public commenters spoke and neither of

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them raised any of the hearing factors.
The first public commenter uh raised

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concerns with preserving farmland
and the second public commenter

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discussed um some concerns about Navison
as a corporation. Um but uh as I

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mentioned in my letter, these are not
relevant hearing factors. These are not

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grounds for denial um under the case law
and the statute and and the ordinance.

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And um you know, we left that hearing uh
understanding that the permit would need

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to be approved at the following board
meeting um based on the public record

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that was established that night since
there was no evidence presented that was

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relevant to any of the hearing factors
and nothing that indicated that the

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hearing factors were not met.
Um there were a couple of technical

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requirements which Mr. Wyatt raised and
we did address those over the following

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month. Um at the at the board meeting on
J July 29th, I was again present and I

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was prepared to address

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I was prepared to address the Winnebago
County decision and um you know explain

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to the board that under the law that the
the permit needed to be granted because

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there was uh we had met the technical
requirements and there was no issue with

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any of the hearing factors.
Um there was some discussion and again

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nothing that was discussed by the board
had to do with any of those hearing

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factors.
As you know the board ultimately denied

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our permit and I twice asked the board
which hearing factor was not met and

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what evidence supported a finding that a
hearing factor was not met and the board

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could not articulate any reason for
denial. Um, so at that point, you know,

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I believed that the denial was improper
and went back to my client and we

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discussed that we had grounds to take
this to the court. And again, as I

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mentioned, we we do stand by our our
legal argument that we have grounds to

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appeal this and we are willing to do so,
but we really would rather work with the

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county on getting this approved. If any
county member or even member of the

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public wants to raise a concern in any
way we can address in our project, we'd

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be more than willing to, you know, work
with the county and try and cooperate

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and come up with solutions. And um we're
also would like to offer a monetary

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payment that could assist in mitigating
any of the concerns by the board or

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county members um that we would
contribute to the county to mitigate

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those concerns as well.

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Does anyone have any questions for me?

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you have talked to all the people around
your project or land owners.

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» Oh, council for the land owner is
present and he's going to be discussing

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the neighboring property owner. Our
understanding is that the current land

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owners where the project is going to be
decided have connected. There's only one

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there's only one neighboring property.
Um and we do understand they have

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connected and uh council for the
landowner is here to discuss that as

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well and can answer questions. Um but
our understanding is that the the

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individuals who live where the project
is going have connected with the

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neighbor and understood that that there
would be no objection. Now, the sin has,

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as we discussed last time, repeatedly
tried to reach out to the neighbor and

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we haven't been able to connect. But
that's why we have um council for the

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landowner present tonight to discuss
that if that's one of the concerns. And

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again, our offer still stands. We are
more than happy to meet with the

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neighbor if that would help move things
along. If the neighbor has any concerns,

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we would be willing to address those and
make accommodations. Um just to be clear

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though, we already have a setback. like
the the project is already five times

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back further than it needs to be. And
our understanding is the project is

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elevated, so there shouldn't be any
visual concerns with the project. But

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again, as I mentioned, we've really been
trying to reach the neighbor and we'd be

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happy to connect with him if he wants to
talk to us.

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Maybe at this time I should ask are
there other people here who want to

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speak to this? Uh sir,
if you want to come up uh is there

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anyone else here that

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and if you would introduce yourself and
use the microphone.

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Thank you, Madam Chairperson. My name is
Mike Barton, B A R T O N. Uh, I'm here

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today on be on with sort of two
capacities. One, I'm I'm here on behalf

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of the family, uh, the Whis family that
has been members and ownership of the

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land for a long time. Family was all
raised here. The children have all

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raised here. And I'm also here because I
am a land owner west of Pittsfield on my

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family farm that I grew up on, was
raised on, still invested in, and it's a

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place where I have uh
deep deeply care about. And so as a

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result, I've care about this county.
I've continued to try and keep a breast

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of what's going on in the county so that
I can maintain and decide what's going

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on to see that it's also good for me
that the investments that I have in the

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land and how this county is being
developed and and things going on and

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hopefully that I can pass that on that
my children and grandchildren will

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continue to feel that they can justify
owning farmland and be involved in this

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county.
But recently, these decisions,

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particularly by this board, have caused
me to have some pause and question as to

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whether this is the long-term direction
as to what I see is going on in this

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county. And with half of the owners, I
think we still know that as a land

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owner, you can develop it. You can do
things that you want. And if you meet

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the criteria that this board and
governing bodies have all set forth on

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what the rules and regulations are that
you can develop and go forward and do

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that from everything that I've seen so
far that was has been done here. Your

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parameters were all set. They've always
been there. Everybody has known. We've

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been working with this company for a
number of years and they knew what was

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required and they've met all those
criteria until all of a sudden at the

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last minute that it appears that the
goalpost got moved and I'm not sure why

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that was going on. But it from the
outside looking in it doesn't look very

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good to me or the family at this point.
So when the family was approached,

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they've had multiple times and multiple
people that given their location to look

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at development and things of this
nature. And like it or not, electricity

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demands are going up every day. Like it
or not,

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our governments have said we do not want
coal powered plants any longer. So

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something has to be done if we're going
to meet that demand. And when community

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solar projects started being developed
and and marketed around the state and

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the family was approached, they looked
at it, they evaluated it, and it

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appeared that it was going to be a
winwin situation.

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Yes, it would help produce more energy,
electricity that that the that the

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community needs. two is going to provide
a substantial increase in property

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assessments so that the Griggsville
School District and the county would be

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receiving a substantial benefit and and
the family felt very comfortable in

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knowing that their land which
[clears throat] is going to beow for a

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number of years that when it was
returned and the possession comes back

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to them when this term is over that land
is going to be even more productive than

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it is today. so that it can continue for
the next generation and be even more of

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value in the long-term production of
food uh that is going to be needed. So,

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the land is not lost from that
standpoint. Whereas, you know, yes, is

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there is there a house there? Yes. But
in my experience, I haven't seen any

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commercial development project or any
building project ever be asked for that

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doesn't have a house nearby.
I mean, we were asked to put other

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building sites out there by that house.
And so what we could have had four more

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houses out there. Well, if this person
thought they were living out in the

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country by themselves, now they suddenly
got four neighbors. We could have built

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another mashoff building out there. We
had Tucker that wanted to come in and

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put in a whole bunch of concrete and and
put up a place. So things could have

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been done, but it wasn't
the and other situations you've had and

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projects you've passed have had houses
in the neighborhood also. The family was

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very aware of the fact that that house
was there. They'd all lived there their

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entire lives and growing up. And so it
becomes a situation where because they

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knew what it was and yes the elevation
of that house and that point of their

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farm is as almost as high if not the
highest point of Pike County and then it

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falls off a lot into the area where the
rest of the the pasture and fields were

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over the years and so the family set
back what they were willing to work with

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Navis on so that there would not be near
the infringement type of situation.

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ation between that and the elevation
felt that it would be definitely

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something that was going to be favorable
and things in their life. Every time you

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have something like your neighbor can do
what they want and so just because you

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have your house doesn't mean your house
is always going to look the way it is 20

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years from now and you can't control
what your neighbor wants to build.

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Sometimes you don't even like your new
neighbor when they move in. So, but

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we're trying to be good neighbors. We're
trying to participate in all of this.

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But when you look at it, it appears to
me the county doesn't want business.

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They don't want development.
I mean, maybe you think that marijuana

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plants are going to solve the problem of
the county. Or maybe you think that

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mashoffs will build enough buildings
that will help it. This is a project

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that's here. It's now. It's going to
provide a win-win for everybody. And it

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appears to me that the county needs it.
The electricity needs the grid needs it.

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And it's a it's a benefit that everyone
should strongly think about. And it

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provides a solar community project that
is not a big anchorage that allows for a

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win for everyone. And it says that we
are trying to find a way to help the

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assessments of this county and this
project. So the family respectfully

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requests that this board reconsider and
allow the permits to go forward.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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» Hi,
>> welcome.

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» Thanks. I'm Rebecca Myers, Rebecca
Bratchel Myers. And I too am a lifelong

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resident of PI County and I'm thrilled
to be a PI county. I only want to

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address one thing that I've heard um
continuously at the board meetings is

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that um the representatives that they
haven't been able to get a hold of us. I

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find that very concerning. I work in the
county at the local hospital. I've been

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there for the last 16 years and I'm not
difficult to find or locate. If there

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have been meaningful efforts have been
made to reach us, I believe that contact

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would have been established. Hearing
publicly that you have been unable to

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reach us that gives the impression that
we are unavailable or unwilling to

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communicate which is simply not the
case. We are willing to have reasonable

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conversations about how the project and
the potential situ solution. However, we

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expect our concerns as neighboring
property owners to be taken seriously

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particularly because our home has a
direct and elevated view of the proposed

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development.

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Thank you.
>> Uh

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uh the three people who spoke, it's your
intention to stay while we're in close

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session and still be here when we you
can do that.

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» Yes.
>> I I would then unless a board member has

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a a question of one of the three right
now. Oh, shoot. Now, go ahead.

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» I I did just want to provide a little
clarity of the the monetary

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contributions and I really am so sorry
that I don't know how the wires have

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gotten crossed and I I I appreciate that
you're here. We're more than willing to

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work with you. We have set aside a
certain number of funds right now. I

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mentioned we'd be willing to make an
offer and I I'm sure some of that would

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be including working with the
neighboring uh owner. We that's very

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common and um we could work on that. So,
as of this point, we are willing to

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offer uh some combination of up to
$200,000 right now um to the county to

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allocate uh as it sees fit. Um and we're
willing to continue those discussions as

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well. Um, so that would be our offer for
a monetary contribution we'd be willing

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to work through. [snorts]

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» Okay. Then um
>> question,

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» Don,
>> how long is the time frame on this?

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Mike,
>> I Oh, I can stop. We um our deadline to

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appeal is not until October 23rd
>> and the contract.

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He said when it eventually would come
off of it. Oh, sorry.

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» Farm and go back to productive a what is
the

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» contract? 30 years.
>> 30 years. Okay.

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» And also just to be clear on our
timeline as well. Um I I would be

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willing to work with the county. We
really are trying to be cooperative.

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We're trying to be cooperative with the
the neighbors and address anything. So

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we're open to negotiations.
We have until October 23rd as a court

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deadline. So we do have some additional
time. there should be one more hearing

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in between. Um, and we we're really open
to like a creative solution and we do

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want to work with the county and be good
neighbors. So,

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» I think the best creative solution is
you and Mr. Meyer, Mrs. Meyer to

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[laughter] set out and work something
out.

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I I just I feel like that's
>> Oh, absolutely. And again, I I just

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apologize to her that that we I somehow
the wires have gotten crossed and I

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really am sorry. So, I'm I'm very happy
to work with you. I'm really appreciate

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that you came here and that we were able
to connect. So, yes, we we definitely

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would like to work with you. So, thank
you.

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» Walker, do you have any questions before
we go into close session?

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» Uh, yes, but I'd rather do them on

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a legal standpoint.

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I think I'm hearing something, but I
just want to

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Do you want to take a few minutes to do
that?

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» Sidebar. [laughter]

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» Yeah, of course. Thank you.

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» While you're doing that, I'm going to
move on to another agenda item, I think,

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» just to try and uh
>> watch our time. Um, let's

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[clears throat] look at item eight.
Approve previous month's regular meeting

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minutes.

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Uh, Natalie, I'm sorry, that's the
second time I've done that tonight.

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Catherine emailed those to us uh, Sunday
afternoon, I believe. Do I have a motion

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to approve those, Tom? Second by Andy.
>> Any discussion?

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All in favor? I
>> I.

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» Any oppose? May
motion carries.

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Um
looking at uh item 10, discuss and

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possibly approve the appointment of J.
Ryan Norton to commissioner of the Sny

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Island Levy Drainage District.
>> Motion by Andy, second by Tom. Any

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discussion?
All in favor? I

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» I. Any oppose? Nay.
Motion carries.

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Um,

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is there any new business tonight?
>> You actually skipped us seven.

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» Yes, I know. I'm sorry, but we're we're
not done with uh item uh six. And I I

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think your presentation is going to take
a longer than what they will I believe.

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So I was just trying to go through some
quick ones. And I am sorry. I know

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you're waiting.

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» Yeah. The bills.
>> Okay.

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» If you want, I could do public safety. I
mean, it's a 14-minute meeting with one

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agenda item.
>> Go ahead. That would be great.

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» Okay. Okay, I got to find it. But
>> so we are, if anyone's following us, I

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apologize for the jumping around. We're
on 9E. [clears throat]

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All right, there's high. Ah, public
safety.

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Okay, the public safety committee of the
Pi County Board met on Wednesday, August

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19th, 2016 at 7 p.m. at the Pi County
Ambulance Building. And those present

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were Andy Barman, Jim Shepard. I
misspelled my own name. Board chairman

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Rita Hoskin and several [clears throat]
ambulance employees.

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Also present was Dryen Craven, probation
department administrator. Due to the

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internet being down at the ambulance
building all day, we were unable to

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review reports and bills. The internet
issues apparently on in Cascom's end.

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Dryen appeared to request transfer of
$50,000 from the opioid fund to the drug

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court fund. The use of the money for
drug court will fall under the pre

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parameters of the opioid settlement.
Questions were asked as to what the

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current balance of the fund is and how
long it will be of receiving settlement

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monies. Andy bar amendation mo motion to
approve the transfer and Jim Shepard

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seconded. Motion carried. In a follow-up
to those questions asked during the

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meeting, an email was sent to Walker
Filbert asking those questions. Walker

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reached out to the treasur's office and
was told that the balance as of

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yesterday that would have been uh
uh $819

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was $85,5924

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but had not been reconciled since June
30th. He checked the emails he receives

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from the state when deposits are made
and determined that an additional

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$14,72189

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had been deposited to the fund giving it
a balance of $100,231.13.

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There were no public comments and barman
made a motion to adjurnn and Jim Shepard

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seconded. Motion carried meeting
adjourned at 7:14 p.m.

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» Thank you. Do I have a motion to approve
the public safety minutes?

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Derek second.

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Don
any discussion? All in favor? I

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» I.
>> Motion approved. Uh let's finish uh

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nine.
One question, one thing we uh we did get

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the bills for the ambulance and would
like to get those approved tonight.

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» Yeah, I've got them on the agenda under
item 14.

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» Oh, my my bad. I'm sorry.
>> No, that's okay.

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» Didn't see that far down there.
>> That's all right. You're right. We got

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to do that. Um, on number one under 9E,
as Jim talked about in the minutes, uh,

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we'd like to transfer 50,000 from the
opioid settlement fund to the drug

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court. Do I have a motion? Tom,
>> I will second.

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» Second by Jim.
Okay. Any discussion?

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All in favor? I.
>> I.

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» Any oppose? Nay.
Okay. Motion carries.

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Okay, back on agenda item six
and 6A. Uh, Walker, are we ready to go

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into close session?
>> Uh, if you're ready.

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» All right. I do I have a motion,
Tom. Second by Don. And just for the

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record, this is uh prior to possible
action on the solar panels uh farm.

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There will be a close session to discuss
potential legal action regarding this

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matter. per five ILCS120/2
C11 of the Illinois Open Meetings Act

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pending probable or im imminent
legislation.

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» Litigation.
>> Litigation. Yes. Thank you. Not

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legislation. Litigation.
>> Uh all in favor? I

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» I.
>> Any oppose? Nay.

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» Okay. We will once again be in close
session for a while. And Greg, you're

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going to join us.

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Uhhuh. Okay.

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» [snorts]

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[snorts]

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» is

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all

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glorious.

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This

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Yes.

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Cheers.

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All right.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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Holy

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congratulations.

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All

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right.

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» [sighs]

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» Let's

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start.

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Cheers. Cheers.

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» [snorts]

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» You're still

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Do I have a motion to return to open
session?

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Tom made that motion.
>> That motion.

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» I think we need one in open session, I
believe.

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» I'll make it.
>> Okay. So,

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» Tom, second by Derek. Any discussion?
All in favor? I.

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» I.
>> Any oppose? Nay.

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» And motion carries.
Um at this point the board's decision

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that it took in July uh is still in
place

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01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:11,600
but um
given the willingness to uh for the

437
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:16,080
project representatives and the the
neighbors to uh have some more

438
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:20,960
discussion and try and come to some
understandings. Uh the board is going to

439
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:28,960
table this for now until our September
meeting which is the 28th

440
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:34,159
and uh so there won't be any other
action on this uh this evening. We'll

441
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:40,400
table it until the September regular
board meeting and I I believe our

442
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:46,159
attorneys will be in touch with each
other in the the meantime.

443
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:50,080
Um, is is there any other statement
though that any of the representatives

444
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:54,800
here tonight would want to make before
we leave this topic?

445
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:58,639
» I just want to say thank you for your
time. We appreciate it.

446
01:27:56,480 --> 01:28:02,880
» Thank you all for coming in. We we
appreciate that.

447
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:08,800
Okay,
now we will get to item seven. We have

448
01:28:05,679 --> 01:28:17,679
uh staff here from Two Rivers Regional
Council who are here to present on um

449
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:23,679
items that they might be able to help
the county with. Um I do have some

450
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:27,600
materials here that were left with me
before if

451
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,239
» Yeah, I brought some extra work.
>> We got extra food for you. We have

452
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,840
duplicates here.
>> I think we inundated you with stuff. We

453
01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:38,880
got a couple trees that have been down
already. So you guys can go to your

454
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,920
friends. How you doing, sir?
>> Really good.

455
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,719
» Would you then introduce yourselves?
Certainly. Use the mic if you would and

456
01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:48,639
and proceed.
>> Yep. My name is Chad Frederick. I am the

457
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:52,000
uh community development well community
and economic development director at Two

458
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:56,639
Rivers Regional Council.
>> My name is Drew Van Heck. I am the

459
01:28:53,600 --> 01:29:00,880
community action director at Two Rivers.
And so earlier this year, just to give

460
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:04,320
the real basic uh nuts and bolts of
this, earlier this year, we realized, it

461
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:09,920
became blatantly obvious while doing Two
Rivers uh board meeting that we needed

462
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:14,639
to get out, get to each of the four
counties and kind of give a basic

463
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:19,679
overview of what we can do, what we do
do, what what what is even possible.

464
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:23,280
because honestly we kind of figured out
after talking to the different people on

465
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:27,760
the board that a lot of things are just
not known by the counties as to what

466
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:31,280
True Rivers can do for you. And so we
kind of went ahead and did like a one

467
01:29:29,679 --> 01:29:36,239
page uh for the community development
for me, one page for community action

468
01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:40,880
for uh Drew and then kind of did a uh by
the numbers for each county. And so I'll

469
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:44,560
just do a real basic synopsis of what
you know the kind of the five points of

470
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:48,480
what what uh community development can
do for you for the county. We can bring

471
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:52,960
funding into the region, support housing
stability, connect residents to jobs and

472
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:57,840
training. They going strengthen uh local
e economies, and we help turn local

473
01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:03,360
ideas into real results. That last one
is probably the one thing that I feel

474
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:09,920
that has not been there. Um and it's not
your fault. It's probably my fault. it

475
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:14,400
or or at least um kind of falls on Two
Rivers uh probably even before I I took

476
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:18,480
the position is that we needed to focus
on community and economic development.

477
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:22,000
Now, we we used to have a SS for those
of you who are not um sure what that is.

478
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:26,719
It's a community economic development
strategy. Um you'll you'll probably go

479
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:31,040
out there and find that for many
different um economic development

480
01:30:28,719 --> 01:30:36,719
districts, many different groups, some
counties. We had one and then that fell

481
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:41,520
along the wayside before I came into the
uh role and then we have been struggling

482
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:46,480
to get that done again. We are David
Camp House uh who works with me. We are

483
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:50,480
working on getting the u funding through
the economic development administration

484
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:56,639
to be able to complete this task. Now
the task is a little bit big but it's

485
01:30:54,080 --> 01:31:00,560
not not even remotely something that we
can't tackle. Um but we do ask for help

486
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:05,199
from you guys. So the one thing that
ends up happening is that we will reach

487
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:09,280
out to uh anybody and anybody can reach
out to us in Pi County to kind of give

488
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:14,239
us your for lack of a better way of
saying it your 1 to 10 of what's the

489
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:18,400
most important thing what what you need
funding for what are your you know the

490
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:22,719
the dream list in some ways or the
absolute need list uh for for community

491
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:26,560
and economic development for the county.
So then what I can do is then I take

492
01:31:24,719 --> 01:31:31,199
those and those go into that economic
development strategy that and then once

493
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:35,440
we get the funding from the EDA from
economic development administration

494
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:40,480
those projects are automatically
fathered grandfathered into what the EDA

495
01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:44,239
looks at. So if it's in the SDS then
it's way more likely to get funded. So,

496
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:48,400
that's one of the things that I'm going
to be working on and David and I will be

497
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:52,639
working on over the next six to nine
months hopefully getting that done

498
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:56,719
because that's one nice offshoot of
funding that we do have. Now, there's

499
01:31:54,800 --> 01:32:02,000
obviously other entities. There's DCO,
there's IDA, there's USDA, there's lots

500
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:05,040
of different places that I can go. So,
the one thing that I told the other

501
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:09,440
counties and that I'll tell you guys,
the main thing is is that if you have an

502
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:13,040
idea, you have something that needs to
be looked at. Whether or not you have

503
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:18,000
any idea whether there's any funding out
there or not, let me do that. Give me

504
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:23,120
the idea. Email it to me. Um, I left
lots of cards here. Um, Derek has my

505
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:27,280
information as well. Just give me a
quick heads up of a basic narrative of

506
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:31,520
what you're thinking about or what Pike
County needs and I will do the homework.

507
01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:35,360
I will do the the leg work to go find
out what grants are out there, whether

508
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:39,120
or not they're going to fit, whether or
not we are, you know, and and we as in

509
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:42,719
Pike County and Two Rivers are a good
fit for it. Um cuz sometimes they need

510
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:46,480
matching money, sometimes they don't.
Sometimes it's it's it would be the

511
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:49,280
project wouldn't have enough readiness
to be able to be this round, but maybe

512
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:52,159
it would be something that could be
looked at next round. So then that would

513
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:57,600
give us some time to be able to kind of
get our ducks in a row first. Um, I've

514
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,719
been able to find out, you know, I I was
there's money available for the

515
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:04,560
coroner's office in Adams County that
they never dreamt would be available.

516
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:09,280
There's money everywhere. You just got
to find it. Um, and so that's kind of

517
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:13,679
where I become that liaison, that
bridge, is that if there's something

518
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:21,520
that Pike County needs, let's talk about
it and figure out where I can find a

519
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:24,880
stream of of grant money um to help. Uh
it we have a kind of on the on the page

520
01:33:23,679 --> 01:33:27,679
here there's a little bit of a breakdown
obviously of what community and economic

521
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:31,440
development is without going into great
detail here. We we do offer housing

522
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:37,360
support in certain situations. Workforce
development is a big one. Uh David does

523
01:33:33,199 --> 01:33:41,360
that um and he's great at it. We we have
a large portion of of what we um have

524
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:45,120
going on in this in this county is
workforce development. And then uh even

525
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:48,080
bigger is obviously Drew which he'll be
talking to you in a little bit about

526
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:52,239
that second page. Now, let's just jump
to the third page, the Pike County by

527
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:55,440
the numbers, because I think this is is
telling, and it's not a negative or

528
01:33:54,000 --> 01:34:00,639
positive telling. I think it's just
really important to see where your, you

529
01:33:57,679 --> 01:34:03,280
know, your money goes. Um, there's a
couple of big points I want to go with

530
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,800
here. You can see a community
development. There's the breakdown of

531
01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:10,239
where SNAP is, TANF, WEOA, which is the
workforce development. And then with

532
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:12,960
when you go down in the Drews Drews
area, you can see some bigger money

533
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,800
obviously on the different things
whether it be the rehab projects or

534
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:20,239
whether it be lie heap uh food pantry
all those things are kind of outlined

535
01:34:18,239 --> 01:34:23,920
there. Now that's fiscal year. So that's
literally July to July. That was one

536
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:28,159
year right here. And the main thing to
look at there is that the do the dues

537
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:31,040
even though 10,524 in some ways looks
like it's a lot some ways it looks like

538
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:35,840
it's not a lot. The main thing is is you
got 3/4 of a million almost coming back

539
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:39,120
in to the community. The one thing I
really want to focus on there is is that

540
01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:43,280
I think that's just the tip of the
iceberg. I mean, that's coming into the

541
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:47,040
community and we're doing we've done
almost no community development as far

542
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:50,159
as economic development goes, as far as
projects that could be helping your

543
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:53,840
public infrastructure, helping
buildings, helping whatever cases,

544
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:59,040
whatever you might be needing help with,
fire departments. I mean, it it's a huge

545
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:05,679
gamut like we can run and that money can
be coming in too. Not even we are we we

546
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:10,159
have so much more that we can do. Um and
and I think that that would be where we

547
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:15,360
want to take the next step is we want to
have kind of that get the comprehensive

548
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:19,040
economic development strategy set. Let's
get something on paper as to what are

549
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:24,560
all the projects that Pike County is
number one really needing would like to

550
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:28,239
see happen all the way down to things
that you know hey it's a it's a pipe

551
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:31,600
dream maybe but maybe it's not. all
those things. We get that listed, we

552
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:34,639
make that list, we get it into that
compreh comprehensive economic

553
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:38,320
development strategy and then we number
one obviously have a list of things that

554
01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:42,400
we can go looking for funding sources
for. But number two, we get those into

555
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:46,560
what the economic development
administration has and then they would

556
01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:50,719
see, okay, well, Pike County is wanting
to apply for this money from the EDA.

557
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,679
Oh, let's look. Okay, it's right here.
It's number two on their priority list.

558
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:58,320
So, that's something that we probably
should fund. And so that that that's

559
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:03,679
that's how they look at it, which that's
how we're going to look at it and get it

560
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:06,960
hopefully ironed out. That my hope and
goal based upon after talking to EDA and

561
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,159
talking to kind of getting it done is
that we would by by this time next year

562
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:14,320
we have that said fully operational.
It's fully ready to go and everything is

563
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:17,760
good. Um the good news is is that while
we're getting that ready, nothing is bad

564
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:21,199
that that we talk and get a list of
things going because that's only going

565
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:24,159
to help us find maybe money from other
entities to be able to help you guys

566
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:29,199
too.
So, that's pretty much my side. Um, like

567
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:34,480
I said, we have cards here. I have my
cards here. Anything that you come up

568
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:37,760
with tomorrow, week later, whatever the
case may be, just email me and say,

569
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:41,199
"Hey, I heard you talk the other night.
What would this be like? How would this

570
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:45,600
be a possible project?" Because I'll
I'll be able to find out pretty easily.

571
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:49,920
And I have pretty good go-to people at
every one of the organizations and slash

572
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:53,840
entities that I we do funding with. So I
can usually get a good read as to

573
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:57,119
whether a project is a good fit and if
it's not a good fit, what things are not

574
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:02,080
a good fit and then we can kind of try
to figure out if we can circumn that and

575
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:06,080
and and find a fix. So I'll pass it over
to Drew. All right. Thank you, sir.

576
01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:09,440
Yeah. For community action programs,
they're already established per se.

577
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:12,239
There is a grant process, but it's not
like we're looking for new grants. We're

578
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:15,920
trying to add on to them. They're
programs that are already established.

579
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:19,280
Um, so I'm here just to kind of give an
overview of those programs. If anybody

580
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:22,560
has any questions when I'm done, let me
know. And like Chad mentioned, we have

581
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:25,440
our cards here, too, for you guys. For
weatherization, we're essentially just

582
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:29,040
trying to make the homes more energy
efficient.

583
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:32,639
Um, for people to be eligible, there's
numerous ways, but the biggest priority

584
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:36,960
for a person to be eligible is based on
their income.

585
01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:40,880
Um, and ways we can make the homes more
energy efficient is through HVAC

586
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:46,000
upgrades, insulation, and other measures
we can do to make the homes more energy

587
01:37:42,639 --> 01:37:50,239
efficient. uh for CSBG, the community
service block grant. We, as most you

588
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:53,760
probably know in this room, we have a
food pantry here in the Reach Out thrift

589
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:56,639
store. So, those are a few of the things
that we can offer, you know, and not

590
01:37:55,280 --> 01:38:00,560
just here in this county, other
counties, too. Um but potentially we can

591
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:03,760
help out with vehicle repairs, rental
assistance, school supplies, and

592
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:10,560
scholarships.
The crew had an amazing

593
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:14,800
um
uh school supply handout recently where

594
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:19,920
they're giving out to those who are less
you know un unfortunate and able to help

595
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:24,000
out you know families in need with some
school supplies that help out where

596
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:30,480
where we could with two river to those
families and lie is basically to sum it

597
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:35,040
up is utility assistance for those who
are income eligible for that too. So,

598
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:38,080
like I said, mine are more established.
You know, not we're not searching for

599
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:41,199
new grains for our programs, but if
anybody has any questions on what we

600
01:38:39,679 --> 01:38:46,239
currently offer. Um, more than willing
to take those questions now or you can

601
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:49,280
reach out to us anytime.
I did have one other thing I would have

602
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:53,600
mentioned too. Um, I kind of forgot
because it wasn't on the hand. Uh, long

603
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:57,440
story short, we do have a revolving loan
fund program that's a little different

604
01:38:56,159 --> 01:39:01,280
than a lot of the ones that you'll run
into. we were deferralized, so we

605
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:04,880
actually were able to go through the
process of getting it defederalized to

606
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:08,880
where we are fully in charge of it. So
the EDA doesn't run it anymore, so we

607
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:16,239
can have much better competitive rates.
Um, we beat the bank rates often. We and

608
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:18,960
and it's been beneficial thus far. We do
not have anybody from Pike County.

609
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:22,400
That's why I definitely want to mention
it because we're trying to at least

610
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:27,760
diversify that whole 4ount thing. And if
there are any businesses in Pike County,

611
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:34,320
in Pittsfield or wherever that is are
are looking to do something, whether it

612
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:39,199
just fix the place, grow, do something,
or even even a startup, please have them

613
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:42,239
get a hold of me. Again, email me. Um,
then we go through the basic process of

614
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:47,920
an application for the revolving
revolving loan fund. Um, it's we it's a

615
01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:52,239
max of 250,000. We we're usually looking
for in the 50 to 75 range just because

616
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:56,000
that way we can keep the amount that we
have and get as many businesses helped

617
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:59,280
as we can, but we definitely would love
to see somebody a business from Pike

618
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:02,719
County. That way we can help help this
county as well. So if that if that is

619
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:05,840
anything, if you know any of anyone know
of any business owners that are looking

620
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:09,520
to do something, uh please have them get
a hold of us because even though it is a

621
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:13,239
loan, obviously not a grant, it's it we
can keep it pretty competitive.

622
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:20,400
Does anyone have any questions? Or if
you don't, then you can always, like I

623
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:24,560
said, please, please reach out to us
anytime that you want to.

624
01:40:22,239 --> 01:40:29,440
» Chad, the only thing I would bring up is
uh and we've talked about this over the

625
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:32,000
last year or two, um is our situation
with our audits and the [clears throat]

626
01:40:30,719 --> 01:40:33,440
do not pay list,
>> right?

627
01:40:32,480 --> 01:40:36,719
» And so
>> there will be times that you'll run into

628
01:40:35,119 --> 01:40:39,679
a problem with that. There will be I do
know for a fact though that there had

629
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:42,960
there I talked to a couple of people. I
talked to one person at DCO and I talked

630
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:45,679
to one person at USDA and sometimes
those can that can be circumnavigated

631
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:50,080
depending on what the situation is
because if you're going through TRC and

632
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:54,480
we are actually going to administer it
sometimes that helps not always but

633
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:57,840
because there have been certain
situations where even if we're the one

634
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:01,440
even if we're the administrating agent
they still say no because of the do

635
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,920
because of that. Now I have talked to um
IDA is the same thing. So I don't mean

636
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,360
that doesn't really help a lot because
IDA doesn't necessarily have projects

637
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:11,280
that we're we're talking about for this.
But I do know that USDA when I talked to

638
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,800
them they said that if we were the
administrating agent then they would

639
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,920
probably wave that in most projects
unless we're talking like you know

640
01:41:16,159 --> 01:41:21,920
multi-million dollar projects.
>> Okay.

641
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:25,040
» So I know it can be battled. I it could
end up being a headache. It could not

642
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:29,040
be. That's again another thing why I
think if give me everything you got and

643
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:32,880
I'll see what I can find.
So, so your best suggestion would be try

644
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:35,360
and get our department heads together
and say, "What is it that you do for

645
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:39,119
your department?"
>> I mean, it's honestly that's about the

646
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:43,040
best thing to do. Um, Brown County did a
decent job of doing it that way for me.

647
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:45,600
Uh, that's Derek, you just pretty much
hit the nail on the head of how they did

648
01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:49,040
it. They basically just said, "Highway
department, tell them what you need."

649
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:52,960
You know, everybody tell everybody what
they need, make a list, and send it and

650
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:56,880
they send it to me. Well, I I know a big
project we've always talked about is

651
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:59,760
trying to get everything electronic
>> and [clears throat] we've got so much

652
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:03,679
paper and everything that needs to be
scanned and I think all the offices have

653
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:08,800
that problem where if there's a way to
consolidate to where we maybe do one

654
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:14,480
grant that they come in and just do each
office at a time thing,

655
01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:16,880
» but that's up of course to the elected
official on how they want to do it. that

656
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,960
I
>> this is what I've been trying to do is

657
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:24,000
try and find other outside sources that
may be able to accomplish what we need

658
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,400
done here, [clears throat]
>> but we don't have to fund it.

659
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,865
» Right. Exactly.
>> That's what I figure that we're getting

660
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,440
with our $10,000 a year for
[clears throat] what we pay to be part

661
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:36,159
of.
>> Exactly. I mean, if and it it seems it

662
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:39,360
sounds simplistic. I know it's not, but
like it really is as simple as you just

663
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:43,360
give me your laundry list and then let
me do my work to seeing what I can find.

664
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:47,040
» I've had some good luck. I've had not
some good luck. just depends um on the

665
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:50,760
project itself, but usually there's
something out there somewhere.

666
01:42:51,481 --> 01:42:53,501
[snorts]

667
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:59,840
» Well, if there's nothing else, thank you
for your time. I really appreciate it.

668
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:03,520
» Thank you, everyone. Mr. Barlin,
>> yes, sir.

669
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:06,159
» Thank you both for coming down. I'm
sorry about your wait. We appreciate

670
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,040
that.
>> No problem. You guys have a great night,

671
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:13,840
too.
Thanks.

672
01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:19,360
» Yeah, I can be gone.
There you go.

673
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:22,159
» All right.
Here we got

674
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:27,280
» hard for somebody back here.
>> Yeah,

675
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:34,040
» we did uh item eight previously, so
we're back to item nine, committee

676
01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:34,040
reports. Derek, finance.

677
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:41,840
» Thank you, Madam Chair.
The

678
01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:46,480
Pike County Finance Committee was called
to order at 6 PM on August 18th, 2026.

679
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:50,320
At the Pike County Government Building,
committee members Derek Ross, Don

680
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:54,639
Foster, Lance Kendrick were present.
Rita Hoskins, Katherine Rafferty, uh

681
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:57,679
Mike Burbridge, Scott Circle, Walker
Filbert, Judge McCartney, and others

682
01:43:56,159 --> 01:44:02,159
were also present. Under public
comments, Mike Burbridge raised public

683
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:07,600
concerns regarding broad budget line
items and whether expenses such as

684
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:11,840
travel should be uh paid from general
categories such as supplies. The status

685
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:16,400
of the county's financial policies and
procedures uh were also questioned. Uh

686
01:44:14,639 --> 01:44:19,920
also under public comments was the
committee discussed prior efforts to

687
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:24,639
separate election personnel raises,
bonuses, mileage, and other expenses

688
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:28,560
into more specific lines. Ma members
stated that uh greater detail would

689
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:32,480
improve public accountability while also
recognizing that departments need

690
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:37,760
reasonable flexibility and should not be
micromanaged over those small line item

691
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:41,360
variances. Under an unemployment claim,
uh unemployment claim involving a

692
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:46,480
probation employee resulted in an award
approximately of $10,314.

693
01:44:44,639 --> 01:44:50,400
The committee discussed earlier efforts
to contest the claim, an administrative

694
01:44:48,719 --> 01:44:54,639
hearing for which county representatives
stated they were unavailable but did not

695
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:58,159
receive the expected call and later
correspondents uh indicating that the

696
01:44:56,639 --> 01:45:02,639
county had not participated in the
hearing. The county previously carried a

697
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:07,920
separate unemployment insurance uh
policy costing roughly $25,000 a year.

698
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:12,239
After reviewing roughly three years of
experience showing approximately 75,000

699
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:15,840
in premiums compared to only a small
amount of claims, the county

700
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:20,400
discontinued the policy and instead
budget approximately 25,000 in the tor

701
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:26,400
immunity fund for the unemployment
expenses. Lance Kendrick made a motion,

702
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:31,360
Don Foster seconded, to pay the $10,314
unemployment claim from the unemployment

703
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:36,719
line in the torn immunity fund while uh
additional review uh was proceed or

704
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:40,560
pursued. The motion passed. Court public
defender and courthouse funding. The

705
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:44,639
committee was advised that approximately
97,000 of the public defender grant

706
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:48,960
funding was expected near the end of
August. It was stated that this may be

707
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:54,080
the final grant of that type as the
state moves toward a statewide public

708
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:58,320
defender office. Court related expenses
including code hearings and certain

709
01:45:55,760 --> 01:46:02,800
courthouse needs may be uh may continue
to be supported through the available

710
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:07,360
court funds and grants when eligible.
Preliminary work has begun to evaluate

711
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:10,639
possible courthouse energy efficiency
improvements, including heating,

712
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:14,639
cooling, windows, and related capital
needs. Cost estimates and grant

713
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:18,880
opportunities are being explored before
any project is presented for approval.

714
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:23,440
The committee also discussed the code
hearing costs. The judge indicated that

715
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:27,520
the court funds would continue to cover
those costs when available because code

716
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:31,840
enforcement prevents some matters from
entering the regular court system. Under

717
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:35,920
the 252627
budget discussion, the committee stated

718
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:40,239
that the county was uh short for the
2025 fiscal year and that the final

719
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:45,679
amount will ultimately be confirmed
through an audit. Current fiscal year

720
01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:50,159
2026 analysis was limited because of uh
complete July payroll information had

721
01:46:47,679 --> 01:46:53,600
not yet been entered into CIC. The
committee stated that the payroll is the

722
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:57,440
county's largest expense and that the
reports without current payroll

723
01:46:55,040 --> 01:47:01,440
information are limited value for
monitoring spending and preparing the

724
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:06,080
next budget. In discussing the fiscal
year 2026 budget, it was noted that the

725
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:12,560
adopted budget included approximately
900,000 in CDs and other one-time cash

726
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:16,880
resources along with money budgeted for
audit expenses. Those resources helped

727
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:21,199
for the fiscal year 2026 budget appear
roughly balanced on a cash basis, but

728
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:26,320
the committee distinguished that one
line one-time sources for recurring

729
01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:31,040
operating revenue. Initial fiscal year
2027 departmental requests resulted in

730
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:34,840
an estimated general fund deficit of
approximately $572,426.

731
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:40,719
The committee emphasized that the
figures represented departmental

732
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:45,679
requests or wish lists, not final
approval appropriate, not final approved

733
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:50,400
appropriations. Personnel and benefits
were identified as the largest general

734
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:54,960
fund expenses as an area that could not
be avoided when considering reductions

735
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:58,239
of the size. Board members were expected
to receive a working budget spreadsheet

736
01:47:56,719 --> 01:48:02,480
that allows each member to enter
proposed reductions and see the def

737
01:48:00,239 --> 01:48:06,320
effect of the deficit. Mileage
reimbursement was discussed as one

738
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:10,560
possible area of savings. No decision
was made to eliminate mileage. Required

739
01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:13,840
travel mandated tra training,
contractual obligations, employee

740
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:18,080
duties, and departmental needs were
discussed as factors that may be

741
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:21,520
distinguished from discretionary travel.
Grant funded expenditures were also

742
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:25,119
discussed. The committee expressed a
preference for adding grant revenue and

743
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:29,520
corresponding expenses through budget
amendments when grants are actually

744
01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:34,000
awarded rather than including uncertain
grant-f funed expenses in the original

745
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:38,320
budgets. This was discussed as a way to
avoid overstating departmental spending

746
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:42,320
needs when a future grant may cover the
cost. County chairman stated that the

747
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:45,679
full board would first receive the
budget worksheet, provide feedback

748
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:50,159
rather than immediately scheduling
numerous scheduled budget meetings. It

749
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:54,560
was noticed that or noted that prior
budget work sessions had shifted between

750
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:58,960
small groups and full board meetings
without producing sufficient alternative

751
01:48:56,480 --> 01:49:03,600
proposals while each additional meeting
creates mileage and predium cost.

752
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:06,719
Department heads who want to discuss a
request may still meet with the board

753
01:49:05,119 --> 01:49:11,119
members but the committee stated that
the principal decisions regarding

754
01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:15,760
reductions must ultimately be made by
the county board rather than negotiated

755
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:18,880
only by the finance committee. The
committee also discussed whether

756
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:23,920
departments should submit only expenses
they reasonably expect the county to

757
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:28,719
fund rather than including items that
may later be covered by grants. Members

758
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:32,960
noted that uh appropriating an expense
gives the department authority to spend

759
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:38,480
the money even if the anticipated grant
does not materialize making conservative

760
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:43,440
budgeting important when cash reserves
are limited.

761
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:47,119
CIC pay common payroll reporting. A
lengthy and at times contentious uh

762
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:50,960
discussion occurred regarding the
responsibility for entering payroll

763
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:54,880
information into CIC and the continued
absence of complete July payroll

764
01:49:52,719 --> 01:49:58,639
information from the county's financial
reports. Committee members stated that

765
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:03,280
the lack of current payroll data was
impairing their ability to monitor the

766
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:07,760
fiscal year 2026 expenditures develop
the 2027 budget. It was also noted that

767
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:12,480
earlier communications had indicated
that on July 5th and July 10th payrolls

768
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:17,520
would be entered backtoback but the July
information was not available in CIC

769
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:21,119
when month reports were being reviewed.
Committee members uh emphasized that the

770
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:25,119
board needs payroll information in a
usable financial format tied to

771
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:29,679
appropriations and line items. The
committee requested whether the county

772
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:33,920
clerk was statutory uh has a statutory
responsibility to maintain appropriate

773
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:38,760
level of counting records and cited
55LCS

774
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:38,760
5/6-10006

775
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:44,800
during the discussion. The state's
attorney stated that he had previously

776
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:48,719
provided written guidance regarding the
respective responsibilities of the

777
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:52,800
county clerk and treasurer and proposed
meetings including the use of neutral

778
01:50:50,480 --> 01:50:57,119
participant of a neutral participant to
resolve the paycom CIC issue. He also

779
01:50:55,520 --> 01:51:00,960
stated that he had recommended bringing
the offices together with auditors

780
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:05,280
financial consultants to settle the
process. No final resolution was reached

781
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:10,080
during regarding uh responsibility for
the payroll entries. The possibility of

782
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:13,520
replacing CIC was discussed, but uh
concern was expressed about another

783
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:18,400
major software change while the county
remains behind the prior year audits and

784
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:22,159
still reconciling existing systems.
Committee members responded that the

785
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:25,920
issue was not whether payroll totals
were accurate, but whether the board

786
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:30,560
could obtain current expense information
mapped to the appropriations and line

787
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:34,400
items it is legally responsible for
adopting and monitoring. The committee

788
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:38,320
stated that without that mapping, it
could not reliably project departmental

789
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:42,719
spending or compare actual payroll costs
with the budget. Uh county clerk budget

790
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:49,199
amendment, the fiscal year 2026
amendment was discussed to move $89,223

791
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:53,520
from the county clerk's election line to
the personnel line. The amendment would

792
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:58,239
reduce the election salary expense line
and increase the office personnel line

793
01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:04,560
while leaving the county clerk's total
appropriation unchanged at $400,530.

794
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:07,520
Under insurance, the committee reviewed
information concerning the dental

795
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:11,520
insurance renewal. Dental rates
increased slightly while vision coverage

796
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:16,000
remained unchanged. The county currently
contributes a flat $25 per month toward

797
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:20,960
applicable employee coverage in addition
to life insurance cost. The Hope Trust

798
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:25,119
renewal information was expected later
with open enrollment generally occurring

799
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:28,719
in the fall. Different Hope Trust plan
options that would potentially reduce

800
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:32,400
costs were discussed and it was noted
that those alternatives could be

801
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:37,599
reviewed without necessarily changing
the county's insurance provider treasur

802
01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:42,119
and revenue. The general fund balance
was reported at approximately $263,327.

803
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:49,040
approximately 685,000 remained
outstanding on the general fund

804
01:52:46,159 --> 01:52:53,840
anticipation note and retirement IRF
borrowing was approximately 130,000. The

805
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:58,880
first property tax distribution is
expected in early September with much of

806
01:52:56,639 --> 01:53:03,920
it to be used to repay the anticipation
borrowing. The committee was advised of

807
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:07,760
reports that use tax revenue may
decline.

808
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:11,840
The committee was advised of reports
that use tax revenue may decline

809
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:16,000
substantially. Possible reductions in
replacement tax revenue were also

810
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:20,960
discussed as uh potential issues
affecting the fiscal year 2027. The

811
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:24,480
treasur indicated additional state
information would be reviewed and

812
01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:28,239
provided for budgeting. County fee
levels were discussed, including whether

813
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:31,280
certain fees uh that have remained
unchanged for many years should be

814
01:53:29,679 --> 01:53:35,440
reviewed. The committee discussed the
possibility of an internal fee studies

815
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:39,520
were permitted and whether outside
consultants are necessary for that

816
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:42,639
particular offices or for particular
offices. The committee discussed

817
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:46,719
sheriff, circuit clerk, and other
feebased revenues as inherently

818
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:51,199
difficult to predict because collections
depend on enforcement activity, cases,

819
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:55,119
contracts, and other factors outside the
county's control. members stated that

820
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:59,920
recurring expenditures should not be
supported by optimistic revenue

821
01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:04,159
assumptions that may not occur under old
and new business. The first property tax

822
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:07,679
distributions were uh expected during
the first half of September. The

823
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:11,280
committee discussed the timing of the
distributions to the county and other

824
01:54:09,199 --> 01:54:16,080
taxing bodies as well as repayment of
anticipation borrowing. Additional

825
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:20,080
discussion occurred regarding required
employee and elected official travel

826
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:25,040
training expenses, department budgets,
and the need to distinguish essential

827
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:29,760
expenses from discretionary expenses as
the fiscal year 2027 budget is

828
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:33,440
developed. Near the end of the meeting,
the earlier mileage discussion was

829
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:37,520
revisited. County officials noted that
some conferences training are required

830
01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:42,800
by statute, the courts, and employment
duties. The committee clarified that no

831
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:46,960
blanket elimination had been adopted and
that required travel must be considered

832
01:54:44,719 --> 01:54:50,719
differently for discretionary travel
from discretionary travel. The health

833
01:54:49,119 --> 01:54:54,560
department also asked whether mileage
for nurses traveling between patients

834
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:58,239
was part of the discussion. It was
clarified that the health department

835
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:02,719
budget is governed by its own board and
the mileage required as part of that

836
01:55:00,639 --> 01:55:07,360
employees worker employment arrangement
would be uh treated in accordance with

837
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:11,280
those obligations. The broader budget
point was that the county may have to

838
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:15,840
establish lower total appropriations for
departments and allow department heads

839
01:55:13,679 --> 01:55:20,800
to determine how best to use those
limited funds rather than assuming every

840
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:24,800
historical expense can continue at the
same level. Under review and approval of

841
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:28,159
monthly bills, Don Foster made a motion
was seconded by Lance Kendrick to

842
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:33,040
approve and pay bills in the amount of
89,6826.

843
01:55:30,639 --> 01:55:36,719
The motion passed by voice vote uh
German. Lance Kendrick made a motion. It

844
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:42,440
was seconded by Don Foster to adjourn.
The motion passed and the meeting

845
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,440
adjourned at 7:42 p.m.

846
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:50,639
» Do I have a motion to approve the
finance minutes?

847
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:55,360
» Derek second,
Tom. Any discussion?

848
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:57,280
All in favor? I
>> Hold on.

849
01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:01,440
» Oh, sorry, Jim.
>> Sorry, was still moving. I have

850
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:04,960
questions. Um, starting off with one you
may not have the answer to. The judge

851
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:08,400
alludes that probation or excuse me
probation that public defender will be

852
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:12,960
rolled into a state office. Were there
any details on that? I mean are they

853
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:16,159
going to become state employees? And you
may and you may not know honestly but it

854
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:21,520
was I found it intriguing.
>> Um I I don't know. And one of the more

855
01:56:19,119 --> 01:56:25,760
concerning points is I talked to Kelly
Murray from the county board association

856
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:30,880
and they're they're having a meeting on
September I think 10th or 11th to where

857
01:56:28,639 --> 01:56:36,480
there are some counties that are under
30,000 population that may not get the

858
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:40,800
funding from the state for the um public
defender. So uh I've got to look into

859
01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:44,400
that too and make sure we're going to
get the money from the state. But my

860
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:50,239
understanding is the public defenders
pay has been increased to 80 or 90% some

861
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:52,480
something along the lines of the state
attorney.

862
01:56:50,719 --> 01:56:55,760
» Yeah, it's got to be what 80% of the
state's attorney salary I think now.

863
01:56:54,320 --> 01:57:00,159
» And then the state is supposed to be
reimbursing

864
01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:04,719
part of that too, but I'm hearing that
initially the state might may not have

865
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:09,280
the funds to reimburse uh counties under
30,000. So I'm going to attend that

866
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:14,520
meeting and find out what's more
involved. Got some.

867
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:14,520
» Oh, okay.

868
01:57:15,436 --> 01:57:17,456
[clears throat]

869
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:26,639
» I don't want to speak for Mr. Zimmerman
because he does a great job speaking for

870
01:57:24,159 --> 01:57:32,159
himself, but he he's going to meet with
uh the board uh because he has it

871
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:38,080
figured out and he's talked to the judge
on on how um what needs to happen is

872
01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:45,920
that his position needs to become a
full-time position and uh that is going

873
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:51,040
that's there's going to be no issue on
the funding. What Mr. Ross is referring

874
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:57,840
to. There are all kinds of small
counties out there who have no uh public

875
01:57:54,080 --> 01:58:04,239
defender position and they contract with
private attorneys for doing that work

876
01:58:00,639 --> 01:58:09,040
and uh that's problematic uh in the way
this formulation is going to fit. But uh

877
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:14,639
Mr. Zimmerman's going to talk to you
about that because just need to formally

878
01:58:12,159 --> 01:58:19,440
make it a full-time and then he is going
to show you how with the transition it's

879
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:24,880
actually going to save the county money
based upon what is being spent on that

880
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:29,920
function now. So that'll be forthcoming.
>> Great. Thank you.

881
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:34,159
» Um other minor thing I know you
discussed per personal property

882
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:38,800
replacement tax at the meeting. I had
got an email, I assumed everybody got it

883
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:42,480
on the 13th of August stating that uh
IDR is going to increase the amount of

884
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:48,800
personal property replacement tax to
counties by 21.2% for next year or for

885
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:52,320
this fiscal year, excuse me. So, it
should be available on their website

886
01:58:50,159 --> 01:58:58,320
shortly. I I got on my phone and I
didn't go in and look at it. Um, my

887
01:58:56,320 --> 01:59:04,320
third question,
the budget process.

888
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:09,280
I I I got to make sure I'm understanding
things. You're going to send out a

889
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:15,040
worksheet. I'm going to be able to
look at different scenarios

890
01:59:12,159 --> 01:59:20,480
within that sheet.
Now, I'm assuming it's it's a

891
01:59:18,719 --> 01:59:27,360
I guess my question is how do I stay in
OMA compliance if I say I want to cut a

892
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:31,679
deputy and see what that does and make
and make that proposal

893
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:36,560
if we're not if we're not meeting. How
do I how do I stay compliant and not

894
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:40,719
have somebody
blow blow me up for for throwing this

895
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:43,840
out there?
>> Um

896
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:48,400
» well, I think one Oh, oops.
Well, what what I was going to say is

897
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:52,560
that I have basically made the 2027
budget uh spreadsheet the same as I did

898
01:59:50,880 --> 02:00:00,480
2026.
And what I've done is I put in what uh

899
01:59:55,679 --> 02:00:06,000
CIC downloaded for 2025 as 2025s. I put
in our 2026 uh budgeted amount. I have

900
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:12,000
the estimated or year-to-ate numbers
under the estimated 2026. And then what

901
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:15,840
I did is I did a column called 2027 and
I put in what all of the departments are

902
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:19,199
asking for.
>> And then what I've done is I've made

903
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:23,920
another column that I'm calling board
numbers. And that is where I'm going to

904
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:27,520
allow or basically everybody's going to
have their own spreadsheet. All board

905
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:31,679
members have their own spreadsheet. And
if they just want to copy paste over

906
02:00:29,679 --> 02:00:35,199
what the departments asked for, then
you'll see that it ends up being the

907
02:00:33,119 --> 02:00:42,639
same deficit. But if you go in and say,
"Well, I want to move um deputies A from

908
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:46,560
500,000 to 400,000. What does that look
like in your column and what can you

909
02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:50,080
start changing in all your different
departments? Well, I think I could lower

910
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:54,719
this. I think I could lower that." And
then go back up to look at where the

911
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:57,760
deficit's at. So, the idea was I'm
hoping that board members can play

912
02:00:56,239 --> 02:01:01,679
around with here's what the departments
are asking for. each individual

913
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:04,880
department or each individual board
member could say, "Well, what if we

914
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:08,080
tweak it to this or that, they'll come
up with a number and then ideally

915
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:12,320
somebody's going to come up with
hopefully a balanced budget that says,

916
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:16,239
"Hey, here's what we came up with." But
instead of having one board member do it

917
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:20,800
all, I wanted to have all board members
input to look at it and say, "Here's

918
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:24,320
what departments are asking for. I think
I could trim it here, here, and here.

919
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:29,199
Only give them this amount. And if I do
that here, here, and here, then my

920
02:01:27,199 --> 02:01:33,760
deficit doesn't look like 500,000.
Hopefully, it's closer to 50,000. So,

921
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:37,760
that was the idea was to give you all
the spreadsheets once I get uh the

922
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:42,719
sheriff was still tweaking his numbers a
little bit um because of what we just

923
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:46,560
did here for the uh union get raise. But
once I had those numbers, then everyone

924
02:01:44,639 --> 02:01:50,800
would have the spreadsheet. They could
start playing around with it. We'll see

925
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:58,080
how it works. I mean, we still have
>> And you think as long as it's between

926
02:01:54,400 --> 02:02:03,040
like if you sent Jim the spreadsheet
like you and I have been doing, as long

927
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:08,159
as it's just between two of you, we're
okay with the open meetings at.

928
02:02:05,679 --> 02:02:12,320
» Well, no. I'm I'm not sharing the
spreadsheet. I'm just going to give

929
02:02:10,159 --> 02:02:16,639
everyone the spreadsheet and then they
can put in their own information and

930
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:20,880
then when we finally do get together to
discuss things, they'll have had some

931
02:02:18,719 --> 02:02:24,880
time. And that's my and that's my qu my
core question. When do I dis when do if

932
02:02:23,119 --> 02:02:28,239
I had to a proposal when do I
disseminate it to the rest of the board

933
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:33,040
and stay in compliance and provide some
transparency to the public,

934
02:02:29,679 --> 02:02:36,800
» right? Um
>> I I think it's probably just going to

935
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:40,719
have to be an email uh to just send an
email to myself or Rita, I would

936
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:44,480
suppose, and then hey, Jim's come up
with this. Why don't we set up a

937
02:02:42,639 --> 02:02:48,960
meeting? Um because ideally, and I think
that's what Rita had suggested, we want

938
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:52,960
to make sure that our budget meetings
are productive. So if we've had the time

939
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:56,800
to look at stuff, we can see what the
departments were asking for. By the time

940
02:02:54,960 --> 02:03:00,800
we actually have that first budget
meeting, if we've got two or three board

941
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:04,239
members that say, "Hey, I came up with
numbers. I came up with numbers." Then

942
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:07,840
when we all get together, we should be
able to look at those numbers and then

943
02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:12,719
say what one looks the best.
>> Yeah. I I mean I think I can if I've got

944
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:14,719
numbers I can send them to Rita and Rita
can relay them to you and we're good,

945
02:03:14,239 --> 02:03:15,920
right?
>> Yeah.

946
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,800
» Okay.
>> Yeah, that that that's like an all

947
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:21,599
reply.
>> Yeah. As long as I don't hit reply all

948
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:26,639
with an emoji or something,
>> right? And that's why I I'm I'm not

949
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:31,119
doing a shared um spreadsheet right now,
nor am I sending it to I mean each

950
02:03:29,679 --> 02:03:34,719
individual is going to have their own
spreadsheet. They'll put their own

951
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:37,040
numbers in and then we'll just all get
together here and figure out what we can

952
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:42,400
come up with.
>> Yeah. And we can see about the timing,

953
02:03:39,199 --> 02:03:48,000
too. I um
if Derek, you know, is able to get this

954
02:03:44,719 --> 02:03:52,159
out soon and and I would prefer he got
things corrected with the sheriff's

955
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:59,679
department because it came out at
finance that it appeared we were uh

956
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:04,080
double counting some revenue
uh when we were talking when Scott was

957
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:09,520
giving his treasures report and pointed
out a couple things. So, I would like to

958
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:17,360
get that issue resolved before um people
start uh adjusting things.

959
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:22,560
But if so, once we get that out and you
guys have a chance to look at it and

960
02:04:19,199 --> 02:04:28,800
have some ideas, I'm fine if we do need
to call a special meeting. I think the

961
02:04:25,119 --> 02:04:33,119
mistake last year was someone suggested
to me we need to get a small group

962
02:04:30,639 --> 02:04:36,400
together and have a series of meetings
and then someone said that wasn't

963
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:40,560
working. We need to get the full board
together and have a series of meetings

964
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:46,159
and we just kept meeting and I don't
think it was very productive. So, I'd

965
02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:52,880
like I'm perfectly fine with scheduling
a special meeting, but I'd like to do it

966
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:58,159
when we know we've got something to
discuss. And to the extent we can, I'd

967
02:04:56,239 --> 02:05:04,000
like to use the finance meeting and the
regular board meeting. Um I'm hoping

968
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:10,239
that we'll we'll get to the point ma you
know in the next couple of months where

969
02:05:06,159 --> 02:05:16,080
we don't have uh you know some of these
major agenda items where we can just

970
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:20,080
devote a good chunk of the board time to
discussing the budget because I think

971
02:05:18,159 --> 02:05:25,599
that's the best place where the public
will see it rather than having some

972
02:05:22,719 --> 02:05:31,280
special meeting in a you know an odd
time. I I would like to propose at some

973
02:05:28,639 --> 02:05:37,440
point that that at that that it's almost
40% of the budget that we get the

974
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:43,440
sheriff and the prospective sheriff
and and go through that one line by line

975
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:47,599
just because that's the that's the
elephant in the room as far as as far as

976
02:05:45,199 --> 02:05:52,880
general fund goes.
>> Can I address the statuto timelines just

977
02:05:50,719 --> 02:05:55,880
everyone?
>> Sure.

978
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:11,280
Yeah, looking at the calendar, it looks
like um

979
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:16,560
November 23rd, that's the Monday before
Thanksgiving

980
02:06:13,599 --> 02:06:25,119
is going to be our last scheduled
meeting. So uh using that date 15 days

981
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:30,960
ahead of that which would be November
8th which unfortunately is a Sunday that

982
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:41,199
is the drop dead day that you have to
have the uh draft or proposed budget

983
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:49,119
posted for the public. So the and that
proposed budget has to be approved for

984
02:06:45,599 --> 02:06:53,920
posting at a public meeting. So that
means that [clears throat]

985
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:59,520
just working backwards,
um,

986
02:06:55,440 --> 02:07:06,159
you know, sometime before November 8th,
you're going to have to have a public

987
02:07:01,599 --> 02:07:13,119
meeting where the final proposed budget
that's going to be posted for the public

988
02:07:09,679 --> 02:07:19,520
um, is finalized. Now, of course, once
it's posted, uh, the board can make any

989
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:26,639
change they want to make to it before
final say on November 23rd. So, so

990
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:32,239
that's kind of your drop dead day. So
technically November 6 is your drop dead

991
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:39,360
day that you have to have had a public
meeting to finalize the proposed budget

992
02:07:35,199 --> 02:07:48,560
and it has to be posted on our website
uh no later than November 8th.

993
02:07:44,159 --> 02:07:52,639
So, as to this idea, which is fine if
that's the way you want to do it, of

994
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:58,560
sending out a spreadsheet to the
individual members,

995
02:07:55,119 --> 02:08:05,360
uh they are more than allowed to send
back to whoever sent them that

996
02:08:01,119 --> 02:08:11,440
spreadsheet their proposed numbers. The
only thing I would caution you is that

997
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:17,520
there should be no discussion included
as to how I got to that number. Uh you

998
02:08:15,119 --> 02:08:24,400
should only put in, you know, the number
that that you're proposing.

999
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:29,679
And then once all of that is done, then
that's the time to have the meeting that

1000
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:35,333
Mr. Sheepard's talking about. And that
should not be the meeting necessarily

1001
02:08:33,119 --> 02:08:39,040
where you finalize the budget
[clears throat] for posting

1002
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:42,159
uh because otherwise that could be a
really long meeting.

1003
02:08:41,199 --> 02:08:48,960
So [snorts]
uh having said that, so sometime uh

1004
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:54,320
before November 6th, you're going to
want to have that meeting where you kind

1005
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:58,079
of hash through everyone's proposal and
and try to come up with something. and

1006
02:08:56,239 --> 02:09:04,159
that then that gives you some breathing
room to put it together for the proposal

1007
02:09:01,679 --> 02:09:11,560
that needs to be posted. So hopefully
all that makes sense

1008
02:09:07,119 --> 02:09:11,560
and uh we'll just go from there.

1009
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,719
» Thanks, Walker.

1010
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:23,119
Jim, did you have more?
>> I think that'll do for now. I that that

1011
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:27,119
was that was my big one was just a just
a a little more clarification and that

1012
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:32,320
that helped.
>> All right. Thanks.

1013
02:09:29,679 --> 02:09:37,199
And obviously if anybody has any ideas
now um just of items where you believe

1014
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:43,280
there's
some increased revenue to

1015
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:48,480
that might happen or potential savings.
Please

1016
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:55,360
uh get those up as well. Well, you bring
you bring that up and uh I will go with

1017
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:59,599
my my standard pet peeve,
the uh nurses contract and the sheriff's

1018
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:05,360
department. I know we can't budget for
it, but that contract exceeds the

1019
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:09,920
$30,000 bid minimum. And I would
publicly propose that instead of

1020
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:13,199
spending $9,000 a month for a guaranteed
10 hours a week of nursing contract, we

1021
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:16,719
put it out for bid and see what we can
do to save us some money on that

1022
02:10:14,639 --> 02:10:21,920
$108,000 expense.
>> It hasn't it has been as high as 11.

1023
02:10:19,599 --> 02:10:28,239
» It started out at 11 and 23 when when it
was first signed at at cost us $131,000

1024
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:34,199
a month a year plus supplies was usually
about 150. But that would be one

1025
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:43,840
Oh yeah, and the simple reminder that
the county board has jurisdiction over

1026
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:46,840
contracts entered into within the
county.

1027
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:58,119
» Thank you.

1028
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:06,719
Uh
okay. So we are still under discussion

1029
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:10,239
of the minutes. Are is there other We
have a motion on the table to approve

1030
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:13,239
them. Is there any other discussion
there?

1031
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:18,960
If not. All in favor? I
>> I.

1032
02:11:16,639 --> 02:11:23,440
» Any oppose? Nay.
Okay. Motion carries.

1033
02:11:21,679 --> 02:11:29,040
» Um
Derek, the

1034
02:11:26,239 --> 02:11:33,920
county clerk's sure budget amendment. Um
so the uh for the budget for the uh

1035
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:39,119
county clerk's office the next one. Yes.
Okay. Yeah. Uh so this was uh discussed

1036
02:11:36,719 --> 02:11:44,480
in finance originally in May. Uh it was
discussed again um this past uh finance

1037
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:49,199
meeting. Um it was supposed to be taken
care of last month but I forgot to bring

1038
02:11:46,239 --> 02:11:55,599
the numbers. Uh again, what this is
doing uh based off of the discussion

1039
02:11:52,639 --> 02:12:00,239
that I had with the auditors that there
are payroll expenses that are being paid

1040
02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:06,400
out of the election line item within the
county clerk's office and we are moving

1041
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:11,520
those amounts into the personnel line
item of the county clerk's office out of

1042
02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:15,440
payroll, but we are not adjusting the
overall budget amount. So the dollar

1043
02:12:13,599 --> 02:12:20,079
amounts are still the same. It's just
more of a transparency

1044
02:12:17,599 --> 02:12:26,880
uh situation to where we're putting the
um payroll expenses in the payroll line

1045
02:12:23,119 --> 02:12:34,360
item. So, uh, I had a motion here, uh,
to recommend the approval of a transfer

1046
02:12:29,199 --> 02:12:34,360
appropriation in the amount of 89,223

1047
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:41,119
within fund 001
008566,

1048
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:46,199
which is elections, salaries, and
expenses to line 0010085503,

1049
02:12:46,719 --> 02:12:53,599
which is office personnel for the
purpose of correcting a line item

1050
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:57,920
classification error as identified.
through audit review and in coordination

1051
02:12:55,520 --> 02:13:03,520
with the county clerk to properly
reflect eligible personnel expenses with

1052
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:08,400
no change to the appropriations of the
total appropriations of the fund. This

1053
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:13,360
transfer is administrative in nature and
does not change the purpose, eligibility

1054
02:13:10,639 --> 02:13:18,880
or use of the funds but solely corrects
the classification of the expenditures.

1055
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:23,360
So,
I would ask for an I vote on passing

1056
02:13:21,119 --> 02:13:28,639
that.
>> Okay. So, Derek's making a motion. Do we

1057
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:33,480
have a second?
Lance seconds. Any discussion?

1058
02:13:49,119 --> 02:13:55,000
in uh looking at 55 ILCS 5/6-10003

1059
02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:06,719
um says transfers of appropriations
affecting personnel

1060
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:13,199
uh may be made at any meeting of the
board by a twothirds vote. vote of all

1061
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:19,119
the members constituting such board.
>> Uh it shall be taken by eyes's and nazs

1062
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:24,960
and entered on the record.
Um so I understand it doesn't affect the

1063
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:30,000
bottom line, but you're transferring
appropriations

1064
02:14:26,719 --> 02:14:38,400
that is affecting a personnel line that
was approved in the in the budget. So,

1065
02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:42,719
uh, just reading this black letter law,
you're going to need six votes

1066
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:47,920
to approve it. Now, I understand the
reasonings for it, which makes all the

1067
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:52,800
sense in the world, but you're going to
you're going to need six votes to make

1068
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:55,520
that change.
>> 2/3 of the corner or two of the

1069
02:14:54,800 --> 02:15:00,400
» two of the board.
>> 2/3 of the board. That's what the

1070
02:14:57,119 --> 02:15:05,520
statute says.
by a twothirds vote of all the members

1071
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:10,079
constituting such board which would be
nine members. Twothirds is six. So

1072
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:16,159
you're going to need six votes and it
has to be by eyes and they so basically

1073
02:15:13,119 --> 02:15:21,040
we'll call you know that's how I do it
just for the record.

1074
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:28,199
» Okay.
>> Any other discussion?

1075
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:28,199
Katherine, do you want to call the role?

1076
02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:38,599
All right.
>> Hi.

1077
02:15:35,599 --> 02:15:38,599
» Hi.

1078
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:47,320
» Foster.
>> Hi.

1079
02:15:47,599 --> 02:15:51,119
» Ed Kendrick.
>> Yes.

1080
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:54,760
Tom
>> Lewis.

1081
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:54,760
» Hi.

1082
02:15:55,199 --> 02:15:58,079
» Cross.
>> Hi. Chip

1083
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:00,960
» Shepard.
>> Hi.

1084
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:11,440
I vote. Should I vote even though it's
not needed? It says of the

1085
02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:14,760
» You got six.
>> Yeah. All right.

1086
02:16:15,679 --> 02:16:26,639
» So, the motion carries.
Um

1087
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:32,000
item two and four. Uh maybe those two
are kind of related at the moment. Is

1088
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:37,519
are is there more Derek there than what
was in your minutes? No. The um fiscal

1089
02:16:34,880 --> 02:16:42,880
year 2027 cost for the dental envision.
We received the renewal uh and I'm

1090
02:16:40,719 --> 02:16:48,559
recommending that we just go ahead and
continue doing the $25 a month that

1091
02:16:45,439 --> 02:16:53,519
we've been doing for years so far and
that the employees pay the difference.

1092
02:16:50,559 --> 02:16:57,280
Uh the vision didn't go up to the best
of my knowledge and the and the dental

1093
02:16:55,519 --> 02:17:02,399
went up a little bit. Um but I don't
have those numbers. We didn't really

1094
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:06,000
have time to do an insurance meeting and
there wasn't really going to be any

1095
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:10,399
discussion of going out for bid or
anything on the dental. Um and we didn't

1096
02:17:08,639 --> 02:17:16,399
have the 30-day notice. There's a lot of
things we didn't do. But, uh, I guess

1097
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:21,040
what I'm looking for is a motion to
continue the $25 a month torch dental

1098
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:26,399
and vision if the board's comfortable
doing that right now. But it wasn't it's

1099
02:17:24,559 --> 02:17:33,120
not here on the agenda. I should have
put it as possible um action and I did

1100
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:36,479
not. So, I don't know if we can actually
make you can

1101
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:40,000
» but
Walker, if it's current policy, if we do

1102
02:17:38,319 --> 02:17:43,040
nothing, it stays the same. Right.
Right. Okay.

1103
02:17:41,599 --> 02:17:46,000
» Okay.
>> All right. Well,

1104
02:17:43,679 --> 02:17:50,719
» and all the employees were notified of
the

1105
02:17:48,319 --> 02:17:55,200
» So then I I would say under our current
policy, we will continue doing our $25 a

1106
02:17:53,599 --> 02:17:58,880
month towards dental and vision coverage
for those employees that elected and

1107
02:17:56,960 --> 02:18:06,760
they will pay whatever the difference is
and the clerk's office will work on

1108
02:18:01,359 --> 02:18:06,760
those numbers to find out what those

1109
02:18:07,439 --> 02:18:14,080
Okay.
All righty. Um, then the number four

1110
02:18:12,319 --> 02:18:19,439
with the Hope Trust updates. Uh, I
actually just received those renewals

1111
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:24,639
this morning and I'm optimistic that
there are some alternatives in there

1112
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:30,639
that are quite a bit uh more out of
pocket, but the rates, surprisingly

1113
02:18:28,319 --> 02:18:36,479
enough, are at or lower than what those
same plans were last year. So, uh, those

1114
02:18:33,359 --> 02:18:43,120
rates held if if not actually went down.
uh we took a 13% increase on one of our

1115
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:49,280
plans and a 6% on the uh HSA plan. So
that was um rather um nominal uh

1116
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:54,719
compared to the industry out there that
uh there are some mid- teens to low 20s.

1117
02:18:52,880 --> 02:18:59,439
So uh we we had a good year on our
renewal. I believe Mr. Booth had passed

1118
02:18:57,280 --> 02:19:05,599
along that our uh plan is running at
about 101% based off us a pretty bad

1119
02:19:02,719 --> 02:19:10,240
month here in July. But prior to that,
we were, I think, in the mid 80s to low

1120
02:19:07,679 --> 02:19:16,639
90s. So, uh the the county definitely
has had some years of claims. But this

1121
02:19:13,439 --> 02:19:20,800
past uh year or two uh has has started
going in the right direction, and it's

1122
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:25,120
very helpful that we can actually see
those numbers now as they're being

1123
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:29,280
incurred, so we can kind of track and
see. Um so, I I had hoped that we would

1124
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:34,080
get a decent renewal based off of what
the claims have been, and it looks like

1125
02:19:31,599 --> 02:19:38,240
they came through with that. So, what I
planned on doing is getting what those

1126
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:43,040
alternate plans are. I actually sent
that out. Uh, what the three alternate

1127
02:19:40,880 --> 02:19:48,479
plans that were being suggested or
looked at uh to the employees. Now, I

1128
02:19:46,399 --> 02:19:53,359
have rates that can go along with them.
Um, I haven't quite decided what I'll

1129
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:57,920
start putting those rates together and
figure out what that looks like. Um, but

1130
02:19:56,479 --> 02:20:01,600
and then we'll have to have a meeting.
Well, I'll have to reach out to the

1131
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:07,359
insurance committees for the unions and
we'll have to basically see what it that

1132
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:12,000
that those numbers are. Um, ideally, it
would might be nice if I can come up

1133
02:20:08,960 --> 02:20:17,120
with some type of a commitment on what
the county is going to pay for benefits.

1134
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:20,880
Um, possibly before the next finance
meeting, but definitely before the next

1135
02:20:18,479 --> 02:20:26,080
board meeting, so we can then start
figuring that into our budgeting. uh if

1136
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:30,720
I can know what we're doing for what
we're going to pay towards uh what plans

1137
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:35,439
we choose, then that helps us figure out
what we're going to have to spend on the

1138
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:40,000
uh insurance side out of the budget. So,
>> and Hope Trust is asking for a very

1139
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:45,200
short turnaround, isn't that right?
>> They are. They put on the the 14th of

1140
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:51,680
September. Um,
and and I'm this this just goes back to

1141
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:56,080
me doing this for it's a January one
plan and and we have to have a decision

1142
02:20:54,000 --> 02:21:02,800
by the middle of September just is crazy
to me. But um I and especially after we

1143
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:08,240
just had another discussion um I'm going
to send an email out to see how many

1144
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:12,240
plans we can actually offer cuz ideally
it would be nice if we could offer four,

1145
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:16,640
you know, two of the current or two
current plans and then we could look at

1146
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:20,800
the two alternate plans, come up for a
price for all four of them and then let

1147
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:26,319
the employee decide which one best fits
their family needs. But I don't know. I

1148
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:32,000
mean, I'm pretty sure that health plan
is basically made up. They programmed it

1149
02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:35,439
themselves. So, it's not a Blue Cross or
United Healthcare. So, it seems like

1150
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:40,399
they should be able to make the plan and
tailor it how they would want to maybe

1151
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:44,080
have four plans in a group. But, I
haven't asked the question yet. But if

1152
02:21:42,479 --> 02:21:48,640
we could have four plans in a group,
then that really does give flexibility

1153
02:21:45,760 --> 02:21:51,840
to the employees, especially if, hey,
I'm I'm healthy. I never get sick. I

1154
02:21:50,479 --> 02:21:55,920
just need to make sure I don't lose my
house if something happens. I'd rather

1155
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:59,840
take a less expensive plan at a higher
deductible compared to there may be

1156
02:21:58,319 --> 02:22:03,920
those that are out there that I'd rather
pay more in my premium to have less out

1157
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:07,439
of pocket. And I think we should be able
to give our employees that choice, but

1158
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:11,680
we have to have the health insurance
carrier be willing to offer multiple

1159
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:16,800
plans in the group besides just the two
that we have. So, I'm going to send that

1160
02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:23,520
email out tomorrow and see uh if we
could offer more than just the two and

1161
02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:26,960
maybe if I can get an extension uh past
the 14th of September because I don't

1162
02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:31,040
know that I could have the meetings and
everything with the people that I need

1163
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:33,439
to in order for them to give me some
guidance on what they're willing to

1164
02:22:32,640 --> 02:22:38,080
accept.
>> And I appreciate you doing that, Jim. I

1165
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:42,319
don't know if you could help, but
>> the 14th only gives us three weeks

1166
02:22:40,399 --> 02:22:46,080
counting this one. I can have a
conversation and see what we can do. I

1167
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:50,319
know the their their thing has always
been that with open enrollment being in

1168
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:56,080
October that they want to have the
material

1169
02:22:52,399 --> 02:22:59,760
done in time. Um, now with advances in
technology, maybe that can be squeezed.

1170
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:02,240
» You know,
>> yeah,

1171
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:07,200
» what we could do 3 years ago was way
behind what we can do now. So, um, I did

1172
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:14,080
do some math based on our current
enrollment on each one of the plans. It

1173
02:23:10,640 --> 02:23:17,280
nets out a 9% increase. We've got 36
employees sitting on the single

1174
02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:23,439
qualified high deductible plan and
that's by far the largest one.

1175
02:23:21,359 --> 02:23:27,120
So it and it and as far as a monthly
increase, it works out to about again

1176
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:32,160
based on current enrollment in the
current plans $10,375

1177
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:35,520
or so a month.
>> Yeah. And the the alternate plans that

1178
02:23:34,479 --> 02:23:41,439
they sent
>> are lower. Yeah. Well, I mean are are

1179
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:47,760
22% less [snorts] than what the rates
are going to and I think it were like

1180
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:51,920
16% less than are current. So for those
employees that are out there that need

1181
02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:57,040
it as insurance is supposed to be for
the just in case and not being used on a

1182
02:23:54,399 --> 02:24:02,000
regular basis, they did come out with a
really good alternate at a really decent

1183
02:23:59,439 --> 02:24:06,080
pricing that I think um if employees
were to look and say, "Hey, I'm going to

1184
02:24:03,359 --> 02:24:09,520
save x amount a month that could be used
towards the higher deductible." And if

1185
02:24:07,840 --> 02:24:15,359
they don't get sick, then they just
pocket that money. So if I were young,

1186
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:19,760
single, and and healthy, it it's and and
could get into a qualified high

1187
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:23,040
deductible, I it's my money with if the
if the county is still funding. So it

1188
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:27,280
yeah, there there is some attract
attraction there for those plan some of

1189
02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:32,960
those plans. I I mean the family rates
are like $600 a month less expensive. So

1190
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:36,000
uh it just there there's the numbers are
completely different than what they were

1191
02:24:34,319 --> 02:24:40,800
last year and I was pleasantly surprised
to see that. So, I I think the employees

1192
02:24:38,319 --> 02:24:45,760
do have options and the county has
options, too. So, um

1193
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:48,399
anyway, well, I'll I'll keep crunching
the numbers and and let people know as I

1194
02:24:47,439 --> 02:24:54,960
get them.
>> And I would like I I I'd like to leave

1195
02:24:51,680 --> 02:25:01,120
here tonight with some sense of the time
frame. I ideally I'd like to ask them

1196
02:24:58,960 --> 02:25:07,040
if they could allow us the next time
enough time to

1197
02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:12,720
have the meeting. Derek's talking about
with the insurance representatives

1198
02:25:09,840 --> 02:25:16,960
and the insurance committee uh either on
the 15th and 16th our regular meeting

1199
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:21,040
days
and then our full board meeting is the

1200
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:28,640
28th.
So if if we could have those meetings at

1201
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:36,880
that time and then hopefully approve it
on the 28th and let Hope know. I realize

1202
02:25:32,960 --> 02:25:39,880
that only gives them 3 days to October
1st.

1203
02:25:39,920 --> 02:25:49,040
» Well, um I I'm actually now that we're s
I'm going to send the email and ask if

1204
02:25:46,720 --> 02:25:54,960
we can have a representative from uh
Hope Trust come and actually explain the

1205
02:25:51,280 --> 02:25:58,960
plans. So that way the union and the
employees are hearing it directly from

1206
02:25:56,720 --> 02:26:03,280
the entity and and me not trying to
interpret nor asking the employees to

1207
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:06,319
interpret it on their own because
there's definitely going to be some

1208
02:26:04,800 --> 02:26:10,160
differences in how things are covered
and what the out of pockets are going to

1209
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:14,880
be and I don't want somebody thinking
well I still got insurance but it's

1210
02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:19,280
cheaper and not realize why it's cheaper
because it's not covering near what it

1211
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:22,399
used to. So, uh, I would feel more
comfortable having a Hope Trust

1212
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:27,600
representative come and actually explain
those benefits to the employees if we

1213
02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:29,359
can get that meeting set up. Um,
>> so, and I think they've done that before

1214
02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:35,359
in the past.
>> I'm sure I'm sure we can get somebody.

1215
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:39,040
» So, um, yeah. And then the the final
thing was is we'll definitely have the

1216
02:26:37,439 --> 02:26:42,399
numbers figured out by the end of
September. That's the goal. So,

1217
02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:46,479
employees will have the whole month of
October to decide what they want to do.

1218
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:51,200
That's the reason why we're trying to
move this along as quickly as we can. Um

1219
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:55,091
when when you're not going out and
bidding it uh from other carriers,

1220
02:26:53,359 --> 02:27:00,319
you've got a little more wiggle room to
[snorts] work with things. So um but

1221
02:26:58,160 --> 02:27:04,640
yeah, uh the idea is we'll uh have
numbers so people will know what their

1222
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:11,120
deductions will be in October and plenty
of time for their uh November one date

1223
02:27:07,600 --> 02:27:15,760
for their open enrollment.
So,

1224
02:27:13,040 --> 02:27:21,439
I'm I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let
this go. If I'm assuming the full board

1225
02:27:19,520 --> 02:27:26,000
has to approve the plans that we're
going to offer.

1226
02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:30,319
So, we're either going to do that on the
28th or we're going to need to schedule

1227
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:37,200
a special meeting. And if we're going to
have to schedule a special meeting

1228
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:40,560
soon, I'd like to do it tonight because
that's really not a lot of time. And

1229
02:27:39,040 --> 02:27:42,880
we've got Labor Day in there.
>> I was going to say if you have to have a

1230
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:47,920
special meeting, do it like we've done
in the past sandwiched in on on the

1231
02:27:45,200 --> 02:27:53,600
third Wednesday between meetings
>> when you can get a quorum.

1232
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:59,600
» There would be room. We've got highway
on Wednesday at 1:30 and uh building and

1233
02:27:57,439 --> 02:28:03,280
grounds doesn't meet until 6, then
public safety at 7.

1234
02:28:01,359 --> 02:28:07,200
» Yeah. I mean, so if you if you had to
have a special board meeting, just do

1235
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:10,800
like 5:30 or something.
>> Okay. I mean, I'm just throwing out

1236
02:28:09,359 --> 02:28:12,640
there as a thought.
>> It's a good thought,

1237
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:15,120
» but I mean, if you're wanting to do it
with with a Hope Trust representative,

1238
02:28:14,160 --> 02:28:18,560
we're going to need more than a half
hour to go to go through them.

1239
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:22,560
» But
>> well, and hopefully you'd have the

1240
02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:27,680
meeting you're you're talking about
first and then the full board meeting.

1241
02:28:24,880 --> 02:28:33,040
» Yeah.
So, but I I would if you had to if you

1242
02:28:30,319 --> 02:28:37,760
had to do a special, but there may be
such a thing as if we could kind of if I

1243
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:42,960
mean we're looking at basically five
five plans at the moment and if you know

1244
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:47,040
we just said, "Hey, we like these four.
If if four is an option, we could

1245
02:28:44,399 --> 02:28:51,200
approve offering all four of them and
then go on and we may have an we may

1246
02:28:49,680 --> 02:28:54,160
have an answer of that to that question
tomorrow."

1247
02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:58,399
» Yeah. Okay.
>> If if we can if we can narrow down, we

1248
02:28:56,399 --> 02:29:02,319
can do four plans, then it's just going
to be a matter of how much is the county

1249
02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:06,960
going to pay towards them. And then
>> yeah,

1250
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:10,800
» then it's really it then it's just
that that'd be perfect because then the

1251
02:29:08,800 --> 02:29:14,880
uh hope trust representative could come
in and explain the four plans to the

1252
02:29:12,880 --> 02:29:17,439
employees and then the employees would
just choose which of the four plans they

1253
02:29:16,880 --> 02:29:21,920
want to take.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1254
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:25,359
» So that that works out fine.
I just I'll send the email tomorrow and

1255
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:27,200
see if we can actually offer four plans.
Okay.

1256
02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:30,399
» And then if we get that answered yes,
then that really does put us in a good

1257
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:36,399
position.
>> So if we do have to have a special

1258
02:29:32,319 --> 02:29:44,960
meeting, we're looking at maybe uh 5:00
on the 16th. Wednesday the 16th.

1259
02:29:41,840 --> 02:29:50,240
That's a tenative special meeting date.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1260
02:29:47,520 --> 02:29:54,319
Um, and even we'll need to know that
soon because I think we have 10 days to

1261
02:29:52,479 --> 02:29:57,800
post that
is the requirement.

1262
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:05,680
I'd have to double check. I don't It's
been a while since I've looked that.

1263
02:30:03,280 --> 02:30:09,840
» Okay. Thank you.
Uh,

1264
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:14,240
what about uh three?
>> Yeah, number three. Um, so in in light

1265
02:30:12,880 --> 02:30:19,840
of some things that have happened over
the last month and um I I just wanted to

1266
02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:27,120
throw out there
that we we do have an opportunity. We

1267
02:30:22,640 --> 02:30:31,520
have a local agency Squires uh out of um
down south in the county. They have

1268
02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:35,359
other county uh business with ICRMT.
They have the uh Pike County Water

1269
02:30:33,280 --> 02:30:40,800
District with ICMT. They're a local
agent that could service and handle our

1270
02:30:38,240 --> 02:30:44,399
account. But I I do believe that it
would we we should have the board vote

1271
02:30:42,960 --> 02:30:49,920
on it and see if that's something that
we'd want to do. And the the the reason

1272
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:57,439
that I think it's it it's important to
consider uh is number one that they they

1273
02:30:54,240 --> 02:31:03,359
are local, they are taxpayers. Um but
also number two that uh they're they're

1274
02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:08,399
close to where they could come here if
there are discussions or or or need for

1275
02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:14,000
things. And I as I've been going through
the budget and looking at things um for

1276
02:31:11,120 --> 02:31:20,720
what's being spent through our our
current agent um for these uh employees

1277
02:31:17,439 --> 02:31:25,920
that basically are are out of work or
are are going to these two-day meetings.

1278
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:32,240
Uh aside from us reimbursing the
mileage, aside from monies getting paid

1279
02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:36,640
out um for the hotel stays and so forth,
it just starts to add up. And but what

1280
02:31:34,960 --> 02:31:42,560
what I'm really more concerned about is
is missing days of work. Um because then

1281
02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:46,560
if if if days are being missed, then
stuff isn't getting done at the county.

1282
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:50,640
And I get that there's a possibility
that there's a lot of information that

1283
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:54,800
needs to be covered. But I do continue
in education all the time. And there's

1284
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:58,960
so much that's available online,
especially as it pertains to the

1285
02:31:56,479 --> 02:32:05,280
insurance industry. I don't know that
warranted that it warrants two-day um

1286
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:12,240
out of out of um out of the area um
meetings. So I wanted to propose that we

1287
02:32:08,399 --> 02:32:17,120
look at changing um our ICMT coverage to
Squire's insurance as our insurance

1288
02:32:14,560 --> 02:32:24,000
agency or our local agent um that would
be able to handle stuff for the 2027

1289
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:30,760
renewal. And um so I am making a motion
that we do that and present it to to the

1290
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:30,760
rest of the board for consideration.

1291
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:42,800
So we have a motion by Derek. Is there a
second for that?

1292
02:32:40,399 --> 02:32:46,120
Second by Lance.
Any discussion?

1293
02:32:46,319 --> 02:32:51,439
All in favor? I
>> I.

1294
02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:55,720
» Any oppose? Nay
>> nay

1295
02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:55,720
» nay.

1296
02:32:57,280 --> 02:33:01,080
» Okay. Um

1297
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:08,240
» Catherine, I think you're going to have
to call the vote.

1298
02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:12,439
» So it's 33
and the chair will vote. I

1299
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:18,560
» So motion carries.
>> Uh Don, are you going to read the

1300
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:23,840
highway minutes?
>> Yeah, I'll do.

1301
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:26,800
Quick interruption. Um Derek Jason Jason
says we can certainly do three. He's

1302
02:33:25,439 --> 02:33:30,240
going to do a quick check to see if we
can do four.

1303
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:36,840
» Great. Thank you.
>> Thanks Jim.

1304
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:36,840
» Okay. Don Highway.

1305
02:33:38,399 --> 02:33:44,960
The road and bridge committee met
Wednesday, August 19th, 2026 at 1:30

1306
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:51,840
p.m. at the Pike County Highway
Department facility located at 39643

1307
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:56,560
260th Avenue, building 4, Pittsfield,
Illinois 62363.

1308
02:33:54,479 --> 02:34:02,000
The meeting was called to order at 1:30
p.m. Roll call had Rita Hoskins, Don

1309
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:07,280
Foster, and Andy Marlman present with
Joe Cobb absent. Also staff of Chris

1310
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:13,600
Johnson, Michelle McCartney, and John
McAllister. There were no visitors.

1311
02:34:10,319 --> 02:34:17,680
Public comment was none. Uh payment of
claims. A motion was made by Andy

1312
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:23,920
Barlman, seconded by Don Foster to pay
claims. Per claims reports dated August

1313
02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:30,640
19th, 2026. All in favor? Motion
carried. Half a bridge closeouts, there

1314
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:35,920
was none. Uh new business. The county
engineer discussed that the construction

1315
02:34:32,479 --> 02:34:41,359
projects on County Highway 14 and County
Highway 2 are going very well. A large

1316
02:34:39,439 --> 02:34:47,280
majority of the work is projected to be
done before harvest really gets going in

1317
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:52,399
full swing. The har the highway
department is looking at options for a

1318
02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:59,920
new tractor and mower as both tractors
currently in use are 22 and 23 years old

1319
02:34:56,800 --> 02:35:04,080
and have required multiple repairs.
A discussion was held regarding the

1320
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:09,680
highway department's roof and ongoing
need for repair solutions. Under old

1321
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:14,319
business, there was none. A motion was
made by Andy Barman, seconded by Don

1322
02:35:11,600 --> 02:35:19,600
Foster to adjourn the meeting at 1:50
p.m. All in favor? Motion carried.

1323
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:28,640
» Do I have a motion to approve the
highway minutes? Tom. Second.

1324
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:33,280
Don. Any discussion? All in favor? I.
Any oppose? Nay.

1325
02:35:31,359 --> 02:35:39,120
Motion carries.
Uh Derek, GIST.

1326
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:43,520
» Thank you, Madam Chairman. The GIST
committee was called to order at 4:03

1327
02:35:40,880 --> 02:35:47,520
p.m. on August 18, 2026 at the annex
building. Members present were Derek

1328
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:52,319
Ross, Don Foster, Jim Shepard. Also
present were Rita Hoskins, Paulyine,

1329
02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:57,840
J.R. Baris, Randy Wallace, and Crystal
Miller. Under old business, J.R. RI said

1330
02:35:55,200 --> 02:36:03,840
that the Foxit or Foxit Plus may be able
to handle PDFs of $12.50

1331
02:36:00,640 --> 02:36:08,000
instead of Adobe. Crystal said the power
outages may be messing with the battery

1332
02:36:05,840 --> 02:36:11,600
backups. J.R. said Tiger Hawk can take
the batteries to Interstate Battery and

1333
02:36:09,680 --> 02:36:16,080
have them replace them. The committee
will wait to hear from somebody if

1334
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:21,760
backups uh were ordered or replaced. She
also said that they had not tried to or

1335
02:36:19,439 --> 02:36:26,880
tried the new jury message. They will
check in the next month or so. Brandy

1336
02:36:24,399 --> 02:36:30,880
was afraid to try and update CIC on her
own. She will reach out to Tigerhawk and

1337
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:36,319
have them remote in and help her do the
updates for CIC. The committee discussed

1338
02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:40,800
the need for a dedicated person to track
and update the county's website. This

1339
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:46,720
will be ongoing, but thoughts were about
an in-house person, possible interns

1340
02:36:43,439 --> 02:36:50,880
from local colleges, etc. Under new
business, there was none. Public

1341
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:54,080
comments, there was none. the payments
of bills. Don Foster made a motion

1342
02:36:52,479 --> 02:36:58,439
seconded by Jim Shepard to approve
payments of bills totaling $16,440.

1343
02:36:58,960 --> 02:37:05,680
The motion passed. Ajournment Jim
Shepard made a motion to adjourn,

1344
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:10,479
seconded by Don Foster. The motion
passed and the meeting adjourned at 4:54

1345
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:17,439
p.m.
>> Have a motion to approve the IT minutes.

1346
02:37:14,479 --> 02:37:22,080
Derek
Lance second. Any discussion? All in

1347
02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:26,640
favor? I
>> I.

1348
02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:31,200
» Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries.
Building and grounds did not meet this

1349
02:37:28,960 --> 02:37:37,680
month. We'll handle those claims under
item 14.

1350
02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:42,479
Uh we previously did public safety
earlier in the meeting. Were there any

1351
02:37:39,600 --> 02:37:48,640
other committees?
Okay.

1352
02:37:44,960 --> 02:37:51,840
» Yep. You got a
You got a two rivers in there.

1353
02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:54,840
» Oh, is it in there?
>> Yeah.

1354
02:38:03,359 --> 02:38:08,319
» Okay.
>> We normally don't read those into the

1355
02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:13,200
record. Is there any need for that?
>> Yeah, I was going to say

1356
02:38:09,680 --> 02:38:15,280
» you got paid to go. So, I was
minutes.

1357
02:38:14,479 --> 02:38:21,160
» Yeah.
>> Well, you asked for them. That's why I

1358
02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:21,160
emailed him.

1359
02:38:22,399 --> 02:38:26,080
» Okay.
If you want, I'll go ahead and read

1360
02:38:25,439 --> 02:38:30,240
them.
>> We We really have not done that for

1361
02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:32,720
» I was going to say we've never done it
before.

1362
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:35,720
» I don't think they need to be in our
minutes.

1363
02:38:41,760 --> 02:38:46,960
» But this is a separate board meeting.
It's not a committee meeting. No, it's

1364
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:50,560
not a committee meeting.
>> I guess that's where we're questioning

1365
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:54,680
it. It's on our board responsible
committee to be on this.

1366
02:38:55,359 --> 02:39:04,000
» Um, yes, I believe. I think that was
decided

1367
02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:09,040
I can't remember when it was, but um
you'll just have to check the minutes.

1368
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:16,319
There was something the board passed.
There were three uh groups that Two

1369
02:39:13,040 --> 02:39:22,960
Rivers has in a way. One is their their
full board, one is the foundation and

1370
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:29,200
one is the community action committee.
And the full board and the foundation

1371
02:39:26,640 --> 02:39:39,160
um were officially recognized by the
board and were to uh members were to be

1372
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:39,160
reimbursed for going. CAA was not.

1373
02:39:39,840 --> 02:39:46,600
Did you go in person, Don?
>> No, I was on Zoom.

1374
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:46,600
» Zoom.

1375
02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:54,960
» I understand. [clears throat] But I I
think the

1376
02:39:53,760 --> 02:39:59,280
» current policy
>> just need clarification.

1377
02:39:57,359 --> 02:40:03,920
» Yeah.
>> Because I don't have anything.

1378
02:40:01,200 --> 02:40:09,280
» Again, this isn't a committee.
>> Okay. I guess we need to review what you

1379
02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:12,280
have listed and who is going to which
meeting.

1380
02:40:14,560 --> 02:40:23,600
» I think the only thing you're going to
find is the uh

1381
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:29,040
the action the board took in officially
recognizing those two boards and sending

1382
02:40:26,960 --> 02:40:35,680
representatives.
And then um at some point recently we

1383
02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:39,800
changed membership. I think it was Joey
and we switched that to Don

1384
02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:50,120
and and the board approved Don is the or
by consensus the regular

1385
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:57,600
meeting. So yes, as as far as the
board's concerned, I think everything's

1386
02:40:54,399 --> 02:41:03,399
done. It should be paid.
Normally they're just on the predium

1387
02:40:59,600 --> 02:41:03,399
report, I believe.

1388
02:41:06,960 --> 02:41:13,680
» Yeah. I I I don't mind if he wants to
read it, but I I look at it the same as

1389
02:41:11,120 --> 02:41:18,080
like UCCCI. I mean, he goes to those
meetings, but he doesn't have to read

1390
02:41:15,439 --> 02:41:23,359
any of what's or
>> or any of the hope trust. I mean, there

1391
02:41:20,800 --> 02:41:26,560
there are things that we sit on that we
don't

1392
02:41:24,479 --> 02:41:31,280
» respond back to. I mean like the regular
keyboard but

1393
02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:33,439
» but I'm fine with however we want to do
it.

1394
02:41:41,520 --> 02:41:48,399
and he's on this. If you go back and
look at the meetings, I think you'll see

1395
02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:54,160
that or the minutes of our board meeting
and it's Don and Joey.

1396
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:58,160
» It was changed from Joey to Don.
>> We can do four.

1397
02:41:55,200 --> 02:42:02,560
» Okay. That's what I'm saying. But you're
saying this is a we can talk about.

1398
02:42:00,560 --> 02:42:07,319
» Okay.
There's three different listings, I

1399
02:42:04,319 --> 02:42:07,319
guess.

1400
02:42:07,520 --> 02:42:16,760
» Derek and Don are both members.
>> Uh, well, I don't Derek, are you on the

1401
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:16,760
foundation?

1402
02:42:17,439 --> 02:42:24,800
» You're on the regular board,
>> right? So, there there's the foundation

1403
02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:28,000
which is made up of governing board
representatives, but I am not on that,

1404
02:42:26,560 --> 02:42:32,720
but I'm on the governing board.
>> Yeah. And then there is a community

1405
02:42:29,760 --> 02:42:38,640
action uh agency
>> that is then a third entity that

1406
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:44,399
actually looks at the
community activities and that is made up

1407
02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:48,720
of community members and some board
members but yeah there's a possibility

1408
02:42:47,120 --> 02:42:54,160
of actually being on three different
boards within Two Rivers itself.

1409
02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:58,160
» Yes. So, I don't know what our county is
committing us to, if it's just the

1410
02:42:55,840 --> 02:43:02,880
governing board or if it's committing us
to all three of the boards, even though

1411
02:43:00,319 --> 02:43:06,160
we do commit ourselves to the boards,
but I just don't normally turn the rest

1412
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:09,359
of the stuff in. Like all my committee
meetings, like I'm on the finance

1413
02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:14,240
committee and the and I I don't turn
those in. I just go to the committees.

1414
02:43:11,840 --> 02:43:18,399
So, but that's not a full board. That's
a committee, but yet it's still part of

1415
02:43:15,920 --> 02:43:21,920
the board. So, I
I don't know how I'm going to handle it,

1416
02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:27,840
but I definitely turn in when I go to a
full board meeting. And this possibly

1417
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:30,960
was a full board for the foundation, but
it wasn't the governing board. That's

1418
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:33,439
why I wasn't there, but God was.
>> Is Natalie still on the foundation

1419
02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:40,359
board?
>> No, she dropped off when she was on the

1420
02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:40,359
law school. So,

1421
02:43:43,359 --> 02:43:50,000
» we used to have Mark uh Sprag on it. I
don't know that we ever

1422
02:43:48,319 --> 02:43:53,840
» He's actually still on it.
>> Yeah, I think he is.

1423
02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:56,840
» He's a community member that's still on
it.

1424
02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:07,040
» Okay, we did item 10. Item 11, new
business. I asked for that. I don't

1425
02:44:04,399 --> 02:44:11,359
think there was any. Um, just an update.
I showed Derek, but we can offer four

1426
02:44:09,439 --> 02:44:13,520
plans.
>> We can

1427
02:44:11,920 --> 02:44:16,000
» we can I just got confirmation from
Jason Booth at Hope Trust.

1428
02:44:15,359 --> 02:44:18,960
» Great.
>> So,

1429
02:44:16,960 --> 02:44:23,279
» so does that change our need for an
insurance

1430
02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:29,040
» committee or when we might
>> um I I'd like to table that answer until

1431
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:31,120
I do some number crunching and figure
out how it goes. So,

1432
02:44:30,640 --> 02:44:35,279
» okay.
>> I mean, I still need input input from

1433
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:39,439
people. I just don't know if we need
>> I I think I'd still leave it as a

1434
02:44:37,520 --> 02:44:41,520
possibility, but we know where we know
we can. So,

1435
02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:45,920
» great.
>> Great.

1436
02:44:42,319 --> 02:44:50,080
» Thanks, Jim. That's very helpful.
>> Okay. Any old business?

1437
02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:53,680
» Um, the only thing I was going to ask, I
know I got a couple emails and I've been

1438
02:44:52,160 --> 02:44:57,359
reached out to a couple times
individually regarding the uh

1439
02:44:55,279 --> 02:45:02,000
development project in Pleasant Hill
that was denied. I didn't know if

1440
02:44:59,279 --> 02:45:06,560
there's any other plans to reopen that
discussion or not.

1441
02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:11,359
as far as the zoning board goes or
county business goes, but I've it's been

1442
02:45:09,760 --> 02:45:14,359
requested multiple times that we
reconsider.

1443
02:45:14,399 --> 02:45:19,880
» All right. Are you talking about the
Dollar General?

1444
02:45:16,640 --> 02:45:19,880
» Yeah. Yeah.

1445
02:45:20,720 --> 02:45:25,840
That was all. I didn't know if anybody
else had any contacts on that or not.

1446
02:45:24,479 --> 02:45:28,560
» I guess I probably got the same two
emails you did.

1447
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:34,319
» I got the two emails from the county and
the county email, but then al I've also

1448
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:34,319
been reached out multiple phone calls.

1449
02:45:36,560 --> 02:45:43,120
At this point there isn't, but
>> well I I didn't understand the emails

1450
02:45:40,640 --> 02:45:45,040
myself if they've actually found a
different location they're trying to put

1451
02:45:44,560 --> 02:45:49,200
it at.
>> Yeah, that's why I'm not sure if they're

1452
02:45:46,479 --> 02:45:52,399
try if there's any any other official
action on that. I just like I said, I

1453
02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:57,760
know what people have reached out to me
and addressed with me. So

1454
02:45:55,200 --> 02:45:58,960
» is is the old John Deere building still
vacant?

1455
02:45:58,479 --> 02:46:00,800
» No.
>> No.

1456
02:45:59,439 --> 02:46:02,880
» No, it is not. [clears throat]
>> Okay. I'm just asking. I have been to

1457
02:46:02,240 --> 02:46:06,080
Pleasant Hill.
>> I was going to say if Greg was here, it

1458
02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:10,000
would have to be in his office if there
was another location cuz we do the

1459
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:14,319
zoning for Pleasant Hill. But
>> if there was any official movement, we

1460
02:46:12,319 --> 02:46:17,129
it would have had to come through Greg.
>> Yeah, [sighs]

1461
02:46:17,920 --> 02:46:24,439
» I can ask him. Okay.
>> If he's working on anything, I will do

1462
02:46:21,439 --> 02:46:24,439
that.

1463
02:46:24,935 --> 02:46:31,439
[clears throat]
>> Uh no chairman remarks.

1464
02:46:28,479 --> 02:46:36,279
Item 14 then uh summary of current
expenses and mileage and PDM.

1465
02:46:44,240 --> 02:46:49,160
» Uh it's under it's C

1466
02:46:49,840 --> 02:46:56,840
unless you have it on the PDU report or
something you can Okay.

1467
02:47:01,279 --> 02:47:08,399
Okay. On the billboard, do we want to
put the amounts that we approve?

1468
02:47:07,279 --> 02:47:12,080
» 23,000.
>> It's going to I mean, I changed the

1469
02:47:09,920 --> 02:47:18,840
total. The
building grants can my report today, but

1470
02:47:15,439 --> 02:47:18,840
it's 23,1361.

1471
02:47:19,200 --> 02:47:30,680
Public safety is now 44,87426.
GIS 16,44024

1472
02:47:26,800 --> 02:47:30,680
finance committee 89,68226

1473
02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:44,960
the law library funds Y81 special grand
total of all special funds is 25,8138

1474
02:47:42,160 --> 02:47:47,960
with now grand total of
199,9175.

1475
02:47:49,760 --> 02:47:56,680
That's not right.
What was that total?

1476
02:47:59,200 --> 02:48:03,080
» I read 23,000.

1477
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:09,600
» Okay. So, if we approve what you just
read, we are including building and

1478
02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:15,240
grounds and public safety.
>> Yes.

1479
02:48:12,240 --> 02:48:15,240
» Yes.

1480
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:24,960
» Right.
So, now we

1481
02:48:23,279 --> 02:48:31,040
have them tonight. You guys have taken
care of them tonight. So, do I have a

1482
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:35,359
motion to approve the uh current
expenses

1483
02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:40,080
report as amended?
>> Yep.

1484
02:48:35,760 --> 02:48:42,399
» Tom and second by Lance. Any discussion?
All in favor? I.

1485
02:48:41,520 --> 02:48:46,399
» I.
>> Any oppose? Nay.

1486
02:48:44,240 --> 02:48:49,880
» Nay.
>> Motion carries.

1487
02:48:50,000 --> 02:48:58,080
Um,
and then I don't know if item C needs a

1488
02:48:54,640 --> 02:49:04,560
vote or not. Don went to the Hope Trust
Conference and has a bill for his

1489
02:49:01,279 --> 02:49:14,000
mileage and the clerk's office, I guess,
is wanting me to sign off on it. Uh,

1490
02:49:10,080 --> 02:49:21,840
» right. Um,
the other people I guess have a

1491
02:49:18,160 --> 02:49:28,279
a supervisor who approves their mileage
reimbursement. So I don't know who

1492
02:49:24,800 --> 02:49:28,279
approved walkers

1493
02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:40,560
in my budget
and I put I was using an old temp.

1494
02:49:37,600 --> 02:49:44,040
So I did make a mistake. It should come
out 00105529

1495
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:50,840
which is my education seminar.

1496
02:49:52,399 --> 02:49:56,920
» Can you get that to Charlie or

1497
02:49:57,200 --> 02:50:04,160
» the clerk's office would need to make
that change?

1498
02:50:01,120 --> 02:50:07,160
» Yeah. I mean either way I'm wearing the
question.

1499
02:50:08,292 --> 02:50:10,312
[snorts]

1500
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:14,040
» So

1501
02:50:15,520 --> 02:50:21,319
I can just sign Don
if you're

1502
02:50:24,160 --> 02:50:28,479
vote on it because you didn't approve it
during finance. So I guess

1503
02:50:27,040 --> 02:50:32,240
» I don't think we need to vote on it.
I'll just approve it.

1504
02:50:32,319 --> 02:50:39,560
Okay. Uh, comments from the Oh, I we
didn't do the pamper

1505
02:50:50,160 --> 02:51:01,600
is absent. Total of 3824
G all present to 916. Highway J is

1506
02:50:58,800 --> 02:51:09,040
absent. A total of 216
finance all present for a total of 12980

1507
02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:18,960
was cancelled.
Public safety Tom was absent to 9560.

1508
02:51:14,560 --> 02:51:25,840
The two words foster $50 and the
economic development committee meeting

1509
02:51:21,920 --> 02:51:34,040
was Joey present for a total of 197 for
a total for [clears throat]

1510
02:51:27,840 --> 02:51:34,040
600 total for DM is 1948

1511
02:51:38,880 --> 02:51:42,479
and this would

1512
02:51:46,000 --> 02:51:55,040
Okay. Do I have a motion to approve the
PD uh PDM report?

1513
02:51:51,200 --> 02:51:57,279
» Don. Second by Derek. Any discussion?
All in favor? I.

1514
02:51:56,479 --> 02:52:02,640
» I.
>> Any opposed? Nay.

1515
02:51:59,680 --> 02:52:10,040
Motion carries.
>> Item 15. Is there any u questions from

1516
02:52:05,520 --> 02:52:10,040
the press or public comment?

1517
02:52:12,640 --> 02:52:22,399
Okay, then I'd uh take a motion to
adjurnn. Tom,

1518
02:52:17,840 --> 02:52:29,960
» Lance, any discussion? All in favor? I.
>> Any oppose? Nay.

1519
02:52:24,960 --> 02:52:29,960
» Motion carries. We're adjourned at 953.

1520
02:52:30,880 --> 02:52:36,720
That was a good one.
We have to figure out I [clears throat]

1521
02:52:34,560 --> 02:52:39,600
don't know how they how the schools get
to allocate those funds out of that, but

1522
02:52:38,479 --> 02:52:42,600
» I don't know.
Somehow

1523
02:52:43,120 --> 02:52:46,359
clean up.

1524
02:52:47,040 --> 02:52:54,960
» Okay, let me just get this turned off.
>> Barry Barry Griggs not quite yet.