[0:04] regular meeting. Good evening [0:07] and welcome to your Board of [0:10] Supervisors meeting today, [0:12] AUGUST 25th. I thought I would [0:14] start out with a quick quote [0:19] from Dolly Parton, because how [0:22] could I not? And it is, I think, [0:24] relevant for our board. We [0:25] cannot direct the wind, but we [0:28] can adjust the sails. So we [0:30] will be doing some sail [0:31] adjusting as we move through [0:33] our agenda today. So with that, [0:35] I will pass it to the clerk for [0:37] roll call. Supervisor Connell. [0:40] Present supervisor Christy here. [0:43] Supervisor Haynes. Supervisor [0:45] Scott here. Chair Allen here. [0:46] Let the record show. Supervisor [0:48] Haynes is not present. All [0:51] other board members are present. [0:53] Next on our agenda is the [0:54] Pledge of Allegiance. And I [0:56] would like to invite Sonja [0:57] Felix, administrative [0:58] specialist one Fleet Services, [1:03] to lead us in the pledge. I [1:05] pledge allegiance to the flag [1:08] of the United States of America [1:10] and to the Republic for which [1:14] it stands. One nation under GOD, [1:16] indivisible, with liberty and [1:21] justice for all. And, Sonja, is [1:23] there anything going on in [1:24] Fleet Services that you'd like [1:27] to tell us about? Right now, [1:29] our biggest project is [1:31] transferring our fleet [1:33] administration management to [1:35] asset work. So everybody's busy [1:37] with that, right? Yeah. All [1:38] right. Well, good luck with [1:41] that. Thank you. Thank you. [1:43] Next, I would like to invite up [1:46] Robert Ojeda, the ceo of the [1:47] Pima Council on Aging, to lead [1:53] us in the land. Acknowledgment. [1:55] On behalf of Pima County [1:57] residents. We honor the tribal [1:59] nations who have served as [2:01] caretakers of this land from [2:03] time immemorial, and [2:05] respectfully acknowledge the [2:06] ancestral homelands of the [2:08] Tohono o'odham Nation and the [2:09] multi millennial presence of [2:11] the Pascua Yaqui tribe within [2:13] Pima County. Consistent with [2:15] Pima County commitment to [2:17] diversity and inclusion, we [2:19] strive toward building equal [2:21] partner relationships with [2:23] Arizona's tribal nations. Thank [2:25] you. We would love to hear [2:27] about what's happening at Pima [2:29] Council on Aging. Thank you, [2:30] supervisor Allen and [2:33] supervisors. So Pima Council on [2:36] Aging is an organization that [2:37] really strives to make sure [2:39] that our older adults in Pima [2:41] County stay at home as long as [2:44] possible, living healthy lives, [2:46] connecting with other human [2:47] beings, and getting the [2:49] resources they need. [2:50] Unfortunately, in Pima County, [2:52] we have at least 3000 older [2:54] adults who are experiencing [2:56] extreme poverty and have [2:57] limited options to improve [2:59] their lives. So we fight for [3:02] the rights of folks who are [3:04] incredible contributors to our [3:08] community, who are incredible [3:10] at having wisdom for how to [3:13] live lives, and that live a [3:15] life that is interconnected [3:16] with other human beings in our [3:19] community. And so but not only [3:22] that, we also provide support [3:23] for caregivers who are taking [3:26] care of family members or the [3:28] many, many caregivers, paid [3:29] caregivers that are taking care [3:32] of our older adults and also [3:33] work towards making sure that [3:35] we address the root causes of [3:37] the issues. And so what are the [3:39] systems that need to improve [3:41] and change to make sure that we [3:42] continue to have older adults [3:44] that thrive in our communities, [3:45] and we appreciate the [3:46] partnership with the County? [3:49] Thank you. I know a lot of [3:50] District 3 communities value [3:52] the Neighbors Helping Neighbors [3:54] program of neighbors. Just [3:56] looking at looking out for [3:58] checking in on some of the [3:59] elderly residents in their [4:00] community and making sure that [4:01] they're okay. So appreciate all [4:03] of that. Thank you. We have as [4:04] well, I think we have 22 [4:06] Neighbor Care Alliance groups [4:08] now in 22 neighborhoods. So we [4:10] continue to grow that. Thank [4:14] you. Thank you. Item four on [4:17] our agenda is current events [4:20] and public acknowledgments. [4:21] Chair Allen, supervisor. Scott. [4:24] Then supervisor. Connell. I [4:27] wanted to share with my [4:28] colleagues and the members of [4:30] the community who are here [4:32] today. For those of you who [4:35] don't know the news of the sad [4:37] passing of Joel Ireland, a [4:40] longtime leader within our [4:42] community. He was a Rincon High [4:44] School and University of [4:46] Arizona graduate, and he was [4:49] also one of the longest serving [4:51] members of the Tucson Unified [4:52] School District Governing Board, [4:55] serving in that role for 20 [4:58] years. He was both a seminary [5:01] and a law school grad, which I [5:03] don't know how many people can [5:05] say something like that. I love [5:06] that the attorney down at the [5:08] end is laughing. As soon as I [5:11] said that at at one time, he [5:14] served as the priest at Saint [5:16] Michael's and All Angels Church. [5:19] He was also an active [5:21] preservationist, helping to [5:23] save several historic homes [5:24] around the University of [5:26] Arizona. If you read the [5:28] beautiful article about Joel in [5:31] the Tucson Sentinel, I think [5:34] his son did a great job of [5:35] summing up one of his two sons, [5:37] I should say, did a great job [5:39] of summing up exactly the kind [5:42] of person Joel was, his son, [5:44] Samuel said he was community [5:46] oriented and believed that we [5:47] should all take care of each [5:50] other, and that everyone should [5:52] have a fair chance at success [5:54] in life. So at this moment, [5:56] Jared Allen, I'd ask that we [5:59] have a moment of silence in [6:08] honor of Joel Ireland. Thank [6:11] you, Chair Ellen. Thank you, [6:12] Supervisor Kino. Thank you, [6:14] Chair Allen, and good evening, [6:15] everyone. Welcome to your Board [6:17] of Supervisors hearing room. I [6:19] want to make two acknowledges. [6:21] I did this last one last time. [6:22] So you'll forgive me former [6:23] state Senator Maria Garcia. And [6:27] also want to acknowledge Doctor [6:28] Octavia Trujillo, the first [6:30] woman elected to serve as the [6:31] Chair of the Pascua Yaqui tribe [6:33] in 1994. Welcome to your Board [6:36] of Supervisors hearing room. [6:38] Two more quick announcements. I [6:41] want to acknowledge the fact [6:42] that the District 5 office has [6:45] a new member of our team, Arnie [6:47] Ramirez, who is Bermudez, [6:50] excuse me, who is such already [6:52] a dynamic force in our office. [6:55] It's been so I feel so [6:57] fortunate to be the recipient [6:59] of his leadership, bringing [7:00] more than 15 years of [7:02] experience in communications, [7:03] multimedia production, graphic [7:06] design and community engagement. [7:09] I am grateful to Council Member [7:11] Kevin Dahl for preparing him [7:12] wisely for being able to make [7:14] his way over to Pima County, [7:16] but really the wealth of [7:17] experience that he brings. I'm [7:18] excited, Arnie, to continue to [7:21] work with you, to serve our [7:23] constituents in a way that I [7:24] know they will be proud of, [7:26] because you are dedicated to [7:28] this. So please welcome Arnie [7:33] Bermudez to the team. And Chair [7:34] Allen. Last but not least, [7:37] we've had an exciting week both [7:40] yesterday and today. We [7:41] distributed about 100 books to [7:43] first graders in district five. [7:45] It's the first 100 of 500 that [7:46] we are going to be distributing [7:48] to first graders throughout our [7:50] community. It's all part of [7:51] District Five's signature love [7:53] of lecture series, which [7:54] translates to love of reading. [7:57] This year's featured book is by [8:00] a local author named Ronnie [8:01] Rivera Ashford. You MAY have [8:03] heard of some of her books, My [8:05] Nana's Remedies, My Tata's [8:06] Remedies Raulito. It's about [8:08] our first Latino governor in [8:09] Arizona. But the book that [8:12] we're previewing this week and [8:13] distributing was hip, Hip, [8:14] hooray! It's Monsoon day, which [8:15] is really perfect given that [8:17] the rain is making its way [8:18] right now here. And the first [8:20] graders Chair Allen colleagues [8:22] have loved this book, have [8:24] loved the, you know, the back [8:26] to school welcome and super [8:27] exciting these last two days to [8:29] have been able to do that with [8:30] our first graders. So thank you [8:32] for letting me welcome our [8:34] guests, welcome a new member of [8:36] the team, and celebrate the [8:37] power of reading and literacy [8:41] in our community. Supervisor [8:44] Christy, I just want to let [8:46] everybody know that district [8:48] four had a great opportunity to [8:50] take part in a a terrific [8:51] celebration at the southernmost [8:53] reaches of district four, right [8:54] before it reaches the Santa [8:56] Cruz County line. On Saturday, [8:59] it was the 150th anniversary of [9:03] the working and historic Empire [9:06] Ranch, and it was a tremendous [9:07] success. It's such a beautiful [9:09] area down there. You come off [9:12] of of ten and you get onto 86, [9:14] and once you're on 86, heading [9:15] south towards the ranch, it's [9:17] like a different world that [9:19] kind of reaches inside you and [9:21] holds your soul. It's a [9:24] beautiful area, a beautiful [9:27] history of of Western culture [9:30] and ranching and conservation. [9:32] And they had a whole series of [9:35] tours and programs on, on the [9:37] various areas of the ranch. And [9:39] at one point at some during [9:40] some of the programs, they had [9:42] as many as 300 people there. So [9:44] it was a tremendous success. [9:47] And all year long there will be [9:48] celebrations at the Empire [9:51] Ranch commemorating its 150th [9:52] anniversary, and I encourage [9:54] the community to take part in [9:57] this great piece of south [10:00] eastern Arizona and South and [10:02] southern Pima County. It's a [10:03] beautiful experience and a [10:04] beautiful history. Thank you, [10:08] MADAM Chair. And I will note [10:09] for the record that we have [10:11] been joined by Supervisor [10:15] Heintz, fresh from the airport. [10:17] I have a couple of [10:18] announcements as well, so I [10:20] will be presenting a [10:22] proclamation tomorrow night to [10:23] the Women's Commission [10:25] celebrating Women's Equality [10:27] Day and the 50th anniversary of [10:29] the commission. So that's [10:31] tomorrow, which is Wednesday, [10:34] August 26th at the ywca. Both [10:37] the city and County have passed [10:38] proclamations and will be [10:39] presenting them jointly. And [10:41] that's from 530 to 8. And then [10:43] we have office hours coming up [10:47] in Marana on Thursday, AUGUST [10:48] 27th at the Marana Food Bank [10:50] from 9 to 12. And then our [10:52] Sahuarita office hours are at [10:55] the Sahuarita Food Bank on [10:57] Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 1st from 10 [11:00] to 1. And then finally, just a [11:02] plug for the Pima Area Labor [11:03] Federation's picnic and [11:04] celebration of Labor Day, which [11:07] will be on Monday, SEPTEMBER [11:10] 7th from 9 to 12 at Joaquin [11:11] Murrieta Park. There will be, [11:13] as always, speakers, music, [11:15] food and games for the whole [11:19] family. Hope to see you there. [11:22] Anyone else? All right then we [11:24] will move on to agenda [11:26] adjustments with Clerk [11:27] Manriquez. Okay, on the regular [11:30] agenda page five, item 18 under [11:31] Economic Development, this is [11:33] unfinished business. From [11:34] AUGUST 11th, Pima County [11:35] Economic Development Strategic [11:39] Plan 2026 2029 and item 19 [11:40] Unfinished Business from AUGUST [11:42] 11th. This is a contract [11:44] Southern Arizona Education [11:45] Council and on the addendum, [11:47] page three, item eight. It's a [11:49] contract. Economic development, [11:50] University of Arizona. These [11:52] items will be heard after call [11:57] to the public. Thank you. And [12:02] then I'm going to do a move up [12:04] from the addendum. I think it [12:09] is addendum number addendum [12:10] item number one. It's a [12:12] presentation of a proclamation. [12:15] This is to Kevin Hamilton, [12:16] co-founder, PRESIDENT And [12:18] artistic director, and Tanisha [12:19] Hamilton, co-founder and chief [12:21] operating officer of Southwest [12:25] Soul Circuit. I, proclaiming [12:27] Saturday, AUGUST 29th to be [12:29] Southwest Soul Circuit 20th [12:31] anniversary. I will move the [12:33] item. Second. Seconded by [12:35] Supervisor Haynes. Discussion. [12:38] All those in favor? I opposed [12:40] item passes five zero and [12:42] Supervisor Kino is here to [13:20] present. This is a new setup [13:21] since the last time you were [13:23] here. Yeah, we're all getting [13:26] adjusted to it. Well, thank you [13:28] so much for the opportunity to [13:29] celebrate the incredible work [13:32] that you have been doing for 20 [13:34] years. I'm going to read the [13:37] proclamation and then offer the [13:38] ability for you guys to say a [13:40] few words right after if you [13:43] desire. Whereas Southwest Soul [13:45] Circuit was founded in Tucson, [13:47] Arizona in 2006 by Kevin and [13:48] Tanisha Hamilton with a [13:50] commitment to connecting people [13:51] through arts, culture, [13:53] education and community [13:55] engagement. And whereas, for 20 [13:56] years, Southwest Soul Circuit [13:58] has contributed to the cultural [13:59] life of Pima County and [14:01] Southern Arizona by creating [14:03] platforms for artists, [14:05] educators, community leaders, [14:06] entrepreneurs, and [14:08] organizations to share their [14:10] talents, stories, and [14:11] contributions with the [14:12] community. And Whereas [14:13] Southwest Soul Circuit has [14:15] produced concerts, cultural [14:16] celebrations, community [14:18] programs, educational [14:19] initiatives, and collaborations [14:20] that have brought people [14:22] together across generations and [14:24] communities. And whereas [14:26] Southwest Soul Circuit has [14:27] enjoyed a long standing [14:29] relationship with Pima County, [14:30] including recognition and [14:32] encouragement from the late [14:33] District 5 supervisor and board [14:35] Chair Richard Elias, whose [14:37] public service and support of [14:39] community and cultural [14:40] organizations remain part of [14:42] Southwest Soul Circuits 20 year [14:45] story. And Whereas, in 2026, [14:46] Southwest Soul Circuit [14:48] celebrates two decades of [14:49] service while beginning its [14:51] next chapter through the Vibe [14:53] network, expanding the [14:54] organization's ability to [14:56] connect music, storytelling, [14:58] and culture with audiences [15:00] locally and beyond. And whereas, [15:03] on AUGUST 29th, 2026, Southwest [15:04] Soul Circuit will commemorate [15:06] this milestone at Pima [15:07] Community College West Campus [15:10] with its 20th anniversary [15:11] celebration, The Vibe Network, [15:13] a live radio experience [15:14] bringing together artists, [15:16] community members, civic [15:17] leaders, and friends who have [15:19] contributed to and supported [15:21] this 20 year journey. Now, [15:22] therefore, be it resolved that [15:24] the Pima County Board of [15:26] Supervisors hereby proclaims [15:28] Saturday, AUGUST 29th to be [15:29] southwest Southwest Soul [15:31] Circuit 20th Anniversary Day [15:34] and honors its 20 years of [15:35] artistic, cultural and [15:36] community contributions to Pima [15:38] County and Southern Arizona and [15:40] extends its best wishes as [15:42] Southwest Soul Circuit begins [15:44] its next chapter. The next 20 [15:46] years of connecting people [15:47] through music, culture, [15:49] storytelling, storytelling and [15:51] community pass and adopted this [15:53] 25th day of AUGUST 2026. [15:54] Congratulations! Let's hear it [16:03] up for Southwest Circuit. I [16:05] just want to express how [16:08] grateful we are to Supervisor [16:11] Canos and the board for [16:13] recognizing us. We have a huge [16:15] debt of gratitude to Pima [16:18] County to also the late Richard [16:21] Elias. He really saw something [16:23] in us that we didn't fully see [16:25] ourselves. And so we're [16:26] grateful that those who serve [16:28] our community can see the [16:30] values that others MAY have to [16:34] serve our community. And so we [16:36] just we want to dedicate this [16:38] time to him and to the many [16:40] people who have helped us along [16:44] the way. In 2006, my wife and I [16:46] married, and we also started [16:49] Southwest Soul Circuit. And our [16:50] marriage and our business has [16:53] worked alongside of each other. [16:54] We've been through the ups and [16:56] downs, but we've learned how to [16:58] turn ourselves as the winds [17:01] changed. And so and we found so [17:03] many wonderful, amazing people [17:05] throughout Pima County, [17:07] throughout the southwest who've [17:09] helped us to uplift, inspire, [17:11] and entertain our communities [17:13] by combining community service [17:16] and world class music. And so [17:18] we have a few of the people who [17:21] help us here. Karen Stewart has [17:23] been helping us with admin and [17:26] operations, and Aretha Reed. [17:30] I'm okay. I'm a little nervous [17:31] here, so I don't got a name, [17:33] but Aretha Reed has really been [17:36] helping us also with our admin [17:37] and operations, and it's [17:39] allowed us to be able to do [17:42] more, be a little more detailed [17:43] and do more for the community. [17:45] So I'm just just overwhelmed [17:47] with gratitude. And I'd like to [17:48] thank you all for acknowledging [17:50] that. Congratulations. Thank [18:30] you. Thank you. Our next item [18:33] on the agenda is call to the [18:35] public. So if you're here to [18:37] call the public you and want to [18:40] speak, you complete one of the [18:41] green speaker cards. If, [18:43] however, you're here for one of [18:45] the hearings, you can complete [18:47] a yellow speaker card and speak. [18:49] When we get to that agenda [18:53] specific agenda item. And if we [18:56] have the. When there are less [18:58] than 20 speakers, we. Each [19:00] speaker gets three minutes. [19:02] Once we cross over into 20 [19:04] speakers, it reduces to two [19:08] minutes. We have 14. So [19:10] everybody gets three minutes. [19:14] And then I will read the rules. [19:15] People attending the meeting [19:17] shall observe rules of [19:18] propriety, decorum and good [19:20] conduct. Any person making [19:21] personal, impertinent or [19:22] slanderous remarks, or who [19:23] become boisterous while [19:25] addressing the board MAY be [19:26] removed by the Sergeant at arms [19:28] if directed by the Chair. [19:29] Unauthorized remarks from the [19:30] audience, stamping the feet, [19:31] whistling yells and similar [19:32] demonstrations shall not be [19:33] permitted by the Chair, who MAY [19:35] direct offenders from the [19:38] hearing room. So we have. Our [19:42] first speaker is MISS Trista Di [19:45] Genova, who will be joining us. [19:52] Telephonically. Hi there. Hi. [19:53] Board members and Pima County [19:56] voters. My name is Trista di [19:58] Genova. I am a writer and [19:59] independent candidate for Pima [20:00] County Board of Supervisors, [20:02] district five. When you elect [20:03] me NOVEMBER 3rd, I promise to [20:05] immediately introduce the [20:06] resolution I already submitted [20:08] to this board and which they [20:10] have ignored to remove Sheriff [20:12] Nanos. If you agree that the [20:13] Guthrie family deserves an [20:15] independent investigation, you [20:17] need to write me in NOVEMBER [20:19] 3rd, if you want to shut down [20:20] Ice concentration camps and [20:23] data centers in Pima County and [20:24] charge Ice goons with kidnaping [20:26] and domestic terrorism, then [20:28] you also need to write me in [20:29] NOVEMBER 3rd, if you agree that [20:31] it is an abomination that Pima [20:33] County Jail has four times more [20:34] jail deaths than Rikers Island, [20:36] then you need to write me in [20:37] NOVEMBER 3rd so we can bring in [20:40] the aclu, shut it down and [20:42] reform it all. Trista. I'm an [20:44] award winning teacher, [20:45] investigative journalist, [20:47] comedian, artist, published [20:48] author and public health [20:49] scholar with honors degrees [20:52] from Oxford University, uc [20:53] Berkeley and Taipei Medical [20:55] University. This is the 22nd [20:57] time I have come before this [21:00] board to demand an independent [21:01] investigation into my case and [21:03] for and to demand the board do [21:05] their job and intervene and [21:07] provide oversight. I've already [21:09] made several documentaries [21:10] about what happened in my case, [21:12] and post them all over social [21:14] media every day until we all [21:16] you Pima County voters, me and [21:18] my animals get justice. Law [21:20] enforcement in this town picked [21:21] the wrong person to mess with [21:23] because now that I survived the [21:24] onslaught of their attack, I'm [21:26] on a mission from GOD to speak [21:28] up for all the other innocent [21:29] people who have been terrorized [21:31] and whose lives have been [21:33] destroyed by these malignant [21:35] narcissists. The proof of their [21:36] egregious misconduct is posted [21:38] all over the internet every day, [21:40] including my documentary [21:41] Watching the Detectives, and a [21:44] 28 minute documentary about my [21:45] beautiful, award winning flock [21:46] of therapy animals and [21:48] miniature pioneer breed of [21:49] miniature service chickens. [21:52] Footage taken days before a 16 [21:54] man military grade raid on my [21:56] private residence in Pima [21:57] County all paid for with your [21:59] taxpayer dollars. As an update, [22:00] I'm calling on the Pima County [22:02] Attorney's Office to drop all [22:04] charges, reverse the charges, [22:06] and return my pay with [22:09] restitution. I filed a $20 [22:10] million civil lawsuit against [22:12] Pima Animal Care Center for the [22:13] unlawful, unnecessary and cruel [22:16] seizure of my flock. On [22:17] SEPTEMBER 15th, there will be [22:19] an order to show cause hearing, [22:20] and I invite members of the [22:21] public and media to come and [22:23] show their support so that I [22:25] can, at the very least, get my [22:26] service dog back. Doctor Baker, [22:28] the jewel in my crown. This [22:29] caused me profound emotional [22:30] distress to be deprived of my [22:32] service dog for this long, and [22:33] it was done intentionally as [22:35] well as the theft of my [22:36] livelihood and the ruination of [22:38] my good reputation. So I cannot [22:40] run for office, and it all fits [22:43] the intentions of Sheriff Nanez [22:44] well. Too bad for you. It's not [22:46] going to work. I published the [22:47] receipts every day of their [22:48] gross and shocking misconduct [22:50] using your taxpayer dollars, [22:52] and I welcome the public to put [22:53] pressure on these agencies to [22:55] drop all charges. And thank you. [22:58] That is time. So I'm going to [22:59] call the next three speakers. [23:01] And so the first person. But [23:03] the but the other two, the [23:04] seats are reserved in the front [23:06] for the other speakers, just so [23:08] we can kind of go through [23:09] quickly. So if you could come [23:11] forward and, and be ready, our [23:13] first speaker is going to be [23:15] Rabbi Samuel Cohen, followed by [23:18] Kent Blumenthal, followed by [23:21] Scott Hancock. So, Rabbi Cohen, [23:26] please. It's a tough act to [23:29] follow. I want to thank you for [23:31] the opportunity to address this [23:33] meeting. My last visit in this [23:34] room was for my father, Rabbi [23:37] Baruch Cohen's 100th birthday [23:39] celebration in APRIL. We still [23:40] appreciate the standing ovation. [23:42] Thank you. I come for a less [23:45] happy reason today as a [23:46] congregational rabbi in Pima [23:48] County for 27 years, a founder [23:50] of the Multifaith Alliance, a [23:51] member of the Northwest Tucson [23:52] Multi-Faith Group, and a Chair [23:54] of community nine over 11 [23:55] commemorations for a decade and [23:58] a long time member of the [23:58] Metropolitan Education [23:59] Commission, it's been my [24:00] privilege to serve Southern [24:02] Arizona with the goal of [24:04] reaching across all religious, [24:06] cultural, ethnic, and racial [24:08] lines and recognizing the spark [24:10] of the divine presence in every [24:12] single human being in the face [24:14] of rising anti-Semitism and [24:17] rampant unfounded conspiracy [24:18] theorizing. It is the [24:19] responsibility of all who seek [24:21] to lead and educate our society [24:24] to prevent demonizing anyone on [24:26] the basis of religion or ethnic [24:28] origin. Anti-Semitism is the [24:30] oldest documented racism in [24:32] human history, going back [24:33] literally thousands of years. [24:35] It's based on some of the worst [24:37] lies ever circulated. It has [24:38] resulted in massacres and other [24:40] brutalities perpetrated against [24:42] Jews for many centuries and [24:44] many countries, including the [24:45] Holocaust, of course, that [24:46] murdered half the Jews of [24:49] Europe in the 20th century. [24:50] Anti-Semitism has no place in [24:53] decent societies. Yet today, [24:55] the revived lies and insane [24:57] conspiracy theories that fuel [24:58] it have led to repeated [25:00] violence against Jews all over [25:02] the world, including fatal [25:04] attacks in America and [25:05] anti-Semitic acts right here in [25:08] Pima County. I visited the [25:09] sacred places of every religion [25:10] all over the world, in more [25:12] than 20 countries on every [25:14] continent, almost none require [25:16] security except the Jewish holy [25:18] places, where even the humblest [25:19] synagogue in the United States [25:21] has security personnel [25:22] protecting congregants from [25:24] anti-Semitic attacks. Every [25:27] Sabbath service, as ours does. [25:30] In my service at the [25:30] Metropolitan Education [25:31] Commission. Civility, [25:32] acceptance of religious and [25:33] racial difference and respect [25:35] for the good intentions of [25:37] everybody who participated in [25:39] the work of education was [25:40] universal. No one was ever [25:42] denigrated or disrespected for [25:44] their religion or background, [25:46] ever in any way. It was [25:48] unthinkable. I have read the [25:49] disturbing words of the present [25:50] head of the Southern Arizona [25:52] Educational Council. What he [25:53] said and posted during the [25:56] recent campaign. Many times, [25:57] MR. Perez advanced anti-Semitic [25:59] tropes about dual allegiance, [26:02] foreign meaning, Jewish money [26:04] and corporations, as well as [26:05] attacking aipac, a lobbying [26:07] group for Israel that does not [26:10] fund any local races at all. In [26:11] his post and in the campaign, [26:13] he used his opponent's Jewish [26:15] identity and her support for [26:16] Israel as though it were part [26:18] of a conspiracy against Tucson [26:20] residents, and said her support [26:21] for a Holocaust center was [26:23] driven by international [26:24] interests, implying [26:25] non-American Jews were [26:28] interfering in local politics. [26:29] My friends, these are. Rabbi, [26:31] come on. I'm sorry. That's time. [26:32] If you were unable to finish [26:33] your comments or either. Either [26:35] way, you're also welcome to [26:36] submit the what's in writing [26:38] and then they can be. I did so [26:40] thank you. I just hope that you [26:44] all hear what I say. Thank you. [26:46] Our next speaker is Kent [26:50] Blumenthal. Chair Allen, [26:51] members of the board [26:53] Administrator Lesher. My name [26:55] is Kent Blumenthal. I reside in [26:56] Green Valley and have served on [26:58] the Pima County Small Business [27:00] Commission since 2015. I speak [27:05] to agenda item number 19, the [27:07] $122,000 for Southern Arizona [27:10] Education Council or csa. You [27:13] know, and I know that Sciac has [27:15] underperformed its [27:17] underperformance does not [27:18] justify funding the. At the [27:20] same level, Pima County has [27:23] contributed since 2022. [27:26] Consider this. This year, six [27:28] Hallmark Teen Town Hall program [27:29] disappeared. About one half of [27:32] csa board positions are vacant, [27:34] demonstrating a severe lack of [27:36] interest among supposedly [27:38] interested parties. A [27:40] partnership with AmeriCorps [27:43] lapsed with a. No explanation. [27:45] Csa failed to achieve broader [27:47] regional representation [27:48] contemplated with Santa Cruz [27:50] County when its name changed [27:53] from the Metropolitan Education [27:55] Commission and worse, csa [27:57] partner, City of Tucson, [27:59] Lowballed its contribution for [28:02] next year to under $20,000. [28:05] Budgets reflect organizational [28:08] priorities. Is csa a Tucson [28:10] priority? I think not. The [28:11] County has always paid more [28:14] than its fair share to support [28:18] csa. Let's compare k through 12 [28:20] public school enrollment data [28:24] for 2024 to 2025. The city of [28:27] Tucson has 81% of total area [28:28] enrollment in seven public [28:30] school districts serving the [28:33] Tucson area. Pima County has [28:35] 19% enrollment outside of the [28:40] Tucson area. Yet for years 2022 [28:45] to 2026, Tucson ponied up only [28:46] 23% to 46.5% of monies [28:48] contributed by the two local [28:49] governments. Is this fair to [28:52] Pima County taxpayers? Is this [28:54] fair to you? Many questions [28:56] about csa remain unanswered. [28:58] Why the underperformance? What [29:00] programs does it actually [29:01] produce and which does it [29:03] simply promote? What are Pima [29:05] County's expectations for [29:06] deliverables? Why should the [29:07] County contribute more money [29:09] than the City of Tucson? Why [29:11] are nearly one half of the [29:13] board seats vacant? Why did [29:15] Santa Cruz County not join? Why [29:17] did the partnership with [29:20] AmeriCorps lapse? Who's [29:21] responsible for the oversight? [29:24] As an outside agency of csa, [29:25] your fiduciary responsibility [29:28] is to. Pima County taxpayers. [29:30] Every taxpayer dollar must earn [29:32] its place in the budget. If csa [29:34] can demonstrate a compelling, [29:36] measurable return to your [29:37] taxpayers, let the evidence [29:40] make the case. Thus far, it has [29:45] not. Thank you. Thank you. Our [29:48] next speaker is Scott Hancock. [29:50] And then MR. Hancock will be [29:53] followed by Mariano Martinez, [29:58] Maria Garcia and Linda Bixby. [29:59] Thank you for your time today. [30:01] My name is Scott Hancock and [30:02] I'm a resident of Pima County. [30:04] I'm representing myself, but I [30:05] am a clean energy professional [30:06] concerned about anti renewables [30:08] chatter that I've been hearing. [30:09] Don't get me wrong, when a [30:10] community starts to organize [30:12] early, that's how we can make [30:13] sure that the right project [30:15] ends up in our community. But [30:16] I'd be ashamed of a small but [30:18] loud anti clean energy group [30:19] took over the conversation, [30:20] leading to Pima County turning [30:21] away the correct projects for [30:22] our community. That's why I'm [30:25] here today. In a previous role, [30:26] I was tasked with creating a [30:28] national toolkit for County [30:29] staff who are not solar experts [30:31] themselves, but who are all too [30:32] often dealing with utility [30:33] scale solar projects. Anyway, [30:35] I've spent a lot of time [30:36] thinking about how rural [30:37] counties like ours can prepare [30:38] themselves to get the most [30:40] value out of these large energy [30:42] projects. In the big energy [30:43] landscape, extracted developers [30:45] are especially heinous. In Pima [30:47] County, we can learn about [30:48] responsible development from an [30:49] elite group known as Community [30:50] Benefits Agreements. These are [30:52] their stories. Spoke with a [30:54] County supervisor from South [30:55] Carolina who oversaw the [30:57] application of a 145 megawatt [30:59] project known as Project [31:00] Charles. They saw heavy [31:02] community opposition out the [31:03] gates, but got them over the [31:04] hump, was having real [31:05] conversations about what the [31:07] community needed. They had an [31:08] issue where they were losing [31:09] their young public safety [31:10] officers to their neighbors, [31:12] who could offer more [31:14] competitive rates. When the [31:15] developer heard this, they [31:16] offered to make ongoing [31:17] donations in addition to the [31:19] other benefits to the County to [31:21] make their public safety [31:22] officer salaries more [31:23] competitive and to retain the [31:25] youth locally. Other [31:26] municipalities have [31:27] successfully negotiated for [31:28] very specific things that won [31:30] people over educational [31:32] resources, technology for [31:33] classrooms, teacher programs, [31:35] solar education opportunities, [31:37] infrastructure investments for [31:38] libraries, community centers, [31:40] public transit and fire [31:41] departments, health care [31:42] investments for rural hospitals [31:44] and clinics, contributions to [31:46] food pantries. So instead of, [31:48] you know, blanket organizing [31:49] against the next project, which [31:51] is what I'm afraid is happening, [31:52] why don't we figure out what we [31:54] want out of these things? What [31:56] are we going to ask for? How do [31:57] we make it generational? How [31:59] can we ensure that this project [32:00] gives back to the landscape [32:01] around it rather than [32:02] diminishing it? That is all [32:04] possible. Pollinator habitat [32:06] that's maintained in the area [32:07] can support the surrounding [32:09] farms and wildlands. We can [32:10] raise fences for wildlife [32:11] access, we can raise panels for [32:14] continued grazing. Excuse me. [32:16] Solar doesn't need to grade the [32:18] land anymore. We can save that [32:19] topsoil, reduce erosion and [32:20] disruption. The most resonant [32:22] point for me personally is that [32:24] clean energy is an anti war [32:26] technology. The more we have, [32:27] the less reliant we are on [32:28] foreign oil, the more energy [32:30] independence we achieve here. [32:31] None of this happens by [32:32] accident, though. It happens [32:33] when a community pushes for [32:36] what it wants. Thank you, thank [32:38] you. Our next speaker is [32:44] Mariana Martinez. Hello. Good [32:46] afternoon, Board of Supervisors. [32:48] I am here in support of the [32:50] renewal of Pima County's [32:51] partnership with the Southern [32:53] Arizona Education Council and [32:56] of Ricky Perez as ceo. As a [32:58] student who has experienced the [33:01] program as a beneficiary, it [33:02] would be a loss to the [33:04] community of Southern Arizona [33:05] if this program were no longer [33:08] here. During my time in the [33:10] Southern Arizona Education [33:12] Council slash Metropolitan [33:13] Education Commission as a [33:15] student peer coach, I was given [33:16] the opportunity to network with [33:18] many individuals from other [33:20] high schools and community [33:23] leadership. It has given me the [33:24] opportunity to be involved in [33:26] my community and create a [33:27] college going environment. To [33:29] my high school of Pueblo High [33:32] School that most times is not [33:34] perceived that way. The [33:36] Southern Arizona Education [33:37] Council is a program that gives [33:39] local students the opportunity [33:40] to be equipped with knowledge [33:42] and be given the opportunity to [33:45] share with their peers. As our [33:47] goal is to eliminate poverty [33:49] through education, I have seen [33:52] that firsthand with many peers, [33:53] including myself, who have [33:55] received many generous [33:57] scholarships to continue our [33:59] studies beyond and attain [34:00] occupations that take our [34:02] community members out of the [34:04] normal, which is not having the [34:05] opportunity to a proper [34:08] education based on a zip code. [34:09] With the federal government [34:12] terminating $400 million in [34:13] AmeriCorps grants that have [34:16] affected many other programs [34:17] nationwide, we as a community [34:19] should not allow other [34:20] governments, including Pima [34:21] County, to terminate that [34:24] funding as well. As I enter my [34:26] second year of college at the [34:27] University of Arizona, W.A. [34:29] Frankie Honors College, double [34:30] majoring in speech, language [34:32] and hearing Sciences and [34:34] Spanish on a $100,000 [34:35] scholarship. I owe the Southern [34:38] Arizona Education Council as [34:40] part of my success and support [34:42] throughout that journey, [34:43] especially Rocky Perez as a [34:45] mentor who is dedicated to [34:48] serving the community and [34:49] providing opportunity to equal [34:51] access to education through the [34:53] Southern Arizona Education [34:56] Council and including Fafsa, [34:58] applying to those kinds of [35:00] applications and scholarship [35:01] applications. This just [35:03] increases that more community [35:05] members are able to go into [35:06] higher education, including [35:08] myself. So thank you so much [35:11] for your time. Thank you, thank [35:13] you. Our next speaker is Maria [35:22] Garcia. Chair and members of [35:25] the Pima County Board of [35:27] Supervisors. Sorry I'm nervous. [35:29] My name is Maria Garcia, a [35:31] former Pima Community College [35:33] governing board member and a [35:35] longtime supporter of education [35:37] and programs that serve our [35:39] community. Throughout my career, [35:41] I have worked to help students [35:43] families succeed, and I know [35:45] firsthand the tremendous work [35:46] our schools and community [35:48] colleges already do to help [35:51] students access higher [35:53] education. I went back and [35:54] reviewed what Pima Community [35:57] College is currently providing, [35:58] particularly through its Office [36:00] of Financial Aid and [36:03] Scholarships. Pcc already [36:04] provides students with one on [36:06] one assistance in completing [36:08] the Fafsa, help with [36:10] understanding financial aid, [36:12] awards and scholarship [36:14] opportunities and support. To [36:16] remain eligible for assistance, [36:17] students can schedule an [36:19] appointment with financial aid [36:21] staff or attend a Fafsa [36:23] assistance event. This is not [36:27] the theatrical. It is a service [36:28] already available to our [36:30] students and families. You can [36:32] find them directly on the [36:34] website or by simply calling [36:37] the leadership. This is why I [36:38] have serious concerns about [36:43] Pima County providing. Saec [36:46] 122,000. Southern Arizona [36:47] Educational Council reported [36:51] nearly 298,000 in revenues. [36:54] Approximately 57,000 in net [36:57] revenues and up to 100 000 [36:59] annually from our board from [37:02] the Pima Peer Coach program. [37:04] Yet the County is being asked [37:06] to provide more than six times [37:10] the city recurring 19,580 [37:14] allocation. The report, 99,007 [37:17] Executive director salary also [37:19] deserves scrutiny. Taxpayer [37:21] dollars should prioritize [37:23] students and direct services, [37:25] particularly when sac has not [37:27] demonstrated its official [37:28] outcome, are uniquely [37:31] attributed to its work. Saec [37:34] points to 750 000 Fafsa [37:35] completions, 144 event [37:37] coordinator connections, 61 [37:39] peer coaches and numerous forms [37:40] events that are actively [37:42] measured. Not proof that Pima [37:44] County 122,000 was necessary, [37:47] and that the outcomes would not [37:49] have occurred through schools, [37:51] pcc Arbor and other community [37:53] partners. Many have reported [37:56] similar numbers and awards. So [37:57] I get the sense that there is a [37:59] lot of duplication in reporting. [38:02] I recognize that's e. C MAY [38:05] provide supplemental services. [38:07] I'm not arguing that it is. [38:09] Work has no value, but [38:11] supplemental does not [38:12] automatically mean the County [38:15] should fund its live at this [38:17] level. I urge the board to [38:20] match the city revenue 19,580 [38:21] investment, rather than [38:24] providing 122,000. There needs [38:26] to be a compelling reason why [38:27] Pima County should provide six [38:30] time. MISS Garcia, thank you. I [38:32] appreciate that. Our next [38:35] speaker is Doctor Linda Bixby, [38:37] who will be followed by Rocky [38:44] Perez. Czajkowski and Melinda [38:49] Mattson. Chair Allen, Vice [38:51] Chair DR. Heinz and members of [38:53] the board. It is a pleasure to [38:54] be here this evening to speak [38:57] about the Memorandum of [38:59] Understanding establishing the [39:01] Arizona Taiwan Talent and [39:03] Innovation Hub at the Roy Place [39:06] Building. As mentioned, my name [39:08] is Doctor Linda Bixby. I am the [39:10] chief research partnerships [39:11] officer at the University of [39:13] Arizona. I'm in a company today [39:15] here by our director of our [39:17] center for Semiconductor [39:19] Manufacturing, Doctor Krishna [39:21] Darin, and also Julie Katzel, [39:22] who is our executive Director [39:25] for community Relations [39:27] regarding the Talent and [39:29] Innovation Hub. It will connect [39:30] education, research and [39:31] workforce development in [39:33] southern Arizona with one of [39:34] the world's leading [39:37] semiconductor ecosystems in [39:39] Taiwan. It is a partnership [39:41] between the University of [39:43] Arizona and the National [39:44] Yang-ming Chiao Tung University, [39:47] with strong support from Pima [39:49] County. On behalf of the [39:51] university, I'm here to thank [39:52] you. Thank you for providing [39:54] the building that will house [39:57] this hub. A partnership of this [39:59] scale needs a visible home and [40:01] the County support gives [40:04] students, researchers, workers [40:06] and industry partners a place [40:09] to learn, collaborate and solve [40:11] problems. Together, we look [40:13] forward to celebrating [40:15] celebrating this commitment in [40:17] our ribbon cutting in OCTOBER [40:19] and welcoming our first [40:22] students already in JANUARY of [40:25] 2027, the economic benefits for [40:27] Pima County will reach well [40:30] beyond the hub itself. A strong [40:32] local talent pipeline here now [40:35] helps Arizona companies hire. [40:38] Here in southern Arizona. It [40:39] strengthens Pima County's [40:42] ability to attract suppliers, [40:44] startups and new investments, [40:46] and it can move university [40:48] research into new products and [40:51] businesses. Here, it can move [40:53] university research and also [40:54] brings these students and [40:55] visiting researchers and [40:57] industry partners to our region, [41:00] supporting local employers and [41:02] expanding connections to the [41:04] global semiconductor economy. [41:06] So thank you. Thank you for [41:08] investing in the talent and [41:09] innovation hub, for helping [41:12] turn this partnership into a [41:14] lasting asset for our community. [41:16] We are grateful for your [41:18] leadership and for your. And it [41:20] excites us that we can build [41:22] something together. So thank [41:27] you again. Thank you. Our next [41:36] speaker is Ricky Perez. Hello. [41:39] Thanks again for having me. I [41:42] wish it was under lighter [41:43] circumstances, and I never [41:44] thought I'd be back in call to [41:46] the audience. So it's a weird [41:48] place to be. I'm here obviously, [41:50] in support of our item with the [41:51] Southern Arizona Education [41:53] Council's contract. I think [41:55] it's apparent to me that [41:56] there's a commonality within [41:57] the outside interests in this, [41:59] and unfortunately, it's [42:01] political and personal. I think [42:02] that the questions and the [42:03] concerns that have been [42:04] presented by individual [42:06] supervisors are valid, and we [42:08] have given them to the best of [42:09] our ability, honest and [42:12] thorough answers. I think that [42:14] still a lot of them are without [42:16] context, and I think a lot of [42:17] the comments that I've heard [42:19] here today are also without [42:20] context. In talking with my [42:23] board Chair earlier this week, [42:24] and I think she also submitted [42:27] an item to you all. I think we [42:30] were in strong agreement that [42:32] when it comes to this contract [42:33] and the measurables relative to [42:36] our peer coach program, [42:38] post-secondary access to civic [42:39] empowerment, they're all in [42:40] alignment with action that this [42:42] board took simultaneous to the [42:44] evolution of mec, to the [42:47] Education Council. And I think [42:50] that there's room for [42:51] opportunity that I think we can [42:54] regard as growing pains. I hope, [42:57] in the long run. But I think [43:00] that it's a disservice to not [43:01] recognize the immense growth [43:04] that this organization has [43:06] experienced over the last year [43:08] and doubling its revenues, [43:09] enrolling its sleeves up. [43:11] Because, like you, I recognize [43:13] the inequities between the city [43:15] of Tucson and Pima County. It's [43:17] not just relative to this [43:18] contract. I recognize the same [43:20] as applicable to PEEPs. And [43:21] when I was a city Council [43:23] member, I was the one that did [43:24] the groundwork to ensure that [43:27] we fronted some cost because it [43:29] felt an imperative. I felt an [43:30] imperative that we invested in [43:31] Sunnyside and Flowing well [43:33] school districts, and I was [43:34] privileged to have actualized [43:36] that. But in the absence of a [43:39] city contribution of equal [43:41] measure this year, as we have [43:43] last year, we've always rolled [43:45] our sleeves up. Like you all, [43:46] when it comes to PEEPs and [43:49] looking for alternative methods [43:50] to to front those costs. And I [43:52] think we've done exactly that. [43:54] And so we will continue, I [43:55] think, to the best of our [43:56] ability in working with our [43:58] city and County partners. But I [44:00] think it would be a disservice [44:02] to really hit us when we're [44:04] already on a strong upwards [44:07] momentum with, I think, some [44:09] much needed action that could [44:10] be remedied easily with action [44:12] by this board. And so I hope [44:14] you all will consider that. I [44:16] also will say with my last 20s, [44:18] that today I had an opportunity [44:21] to join 80 or so people from [44:24] across Arizona in Phoenix in a [44:25] meeting that we called the [44:28] Arizona Fafsa summit. And I [44:30] think it was exactly the fuel [44:31] that I needed and affirming. I [44:33] was one amongst 80 people from [44:34] Tucson that were actually [44:35] present. And I think that's [44:36] emblematic of the necessary [44:38] investments you all have to [44:40] make. Thank you. Thank you. And [44:42] our next speaker is Mike [44:47] Czajkowski. Hello. Good [44:48] afternoon, Chair Allen. Members [44:50] of the Board of Supervisors. [44:52] Administrator Lesher. Pleasure [44:53] to be speaking in front of you [44:55] today. My name is Mike [44:56] Czajkowski, newly appointed [44:58] chief economic development [45:01] officer for the Office of [45:02] Community and Economic Impact [45:03] for the City of Tucson. Say [45:05] that five times fast. I'm here [45:07] to share my support for the [45:09] Talent Innovation Hub as well. [45:11] I echo all of Doctor Bixby's [45:12] comments on that. So I'm not [45:14] going to repeat those comments [45:15] in the effort, but I am very [45:16] excited to see the [45:18] possibilities of this. And as I [45:20] will refer to the former [45:21] Walgreens building where my mom [45:23] worked when I was a kid and [45:24] used to drink ice cream sodas. [45:25] So very excited about that [45:28] opportunity. I would also like [45:29] to share my support for the [45:30] Pima County Economic [45:32] Development Strategic Plan. I [45:33] will say collaboration between [45:34] the city and the County is as [45:36] high as I can remember in my 20 [45:38] plus years of service for the [45:39] city of Tucson. I very much [45:41] appreciate the work of Heath [45:42] Vescovi and Frank Dillon in [45:43] these efforts. The [45:45] thoughtfulness not only for the [45:46] second largest city in the [45:48] state of Arizona, which we need [45:50] to remind people more often of, [45:52] I believe, but also for Oro [45:54] Valley, Marana, Sahuarita [45:56] unincorporated areas, and [45:57] notably South Tucson very much [45:59] appreciate those efforts. We [46:01] are continuing that [46:02] collaboration with all of our [46:04] partners here, including the u [46:06] of a, as we leave for Taiwan [46:08] tomorrow, furthering economic [46:08] development opportunities here [46:11] in southern Arizona, support of [46:12] the Economic Development [46:13] Strategic Plan would only [46:15] strengthen these opportunities [46:16] in collaboration. So thank you [46:18] very much for your time. [46:22] Appreciate it. Thank you. And [46:24] our next speaker is Melinda [46:27] Matson Spina. And then it will [46:29] be Megan Fink, followed by [46:32] Casey Carrillo and Douglas Levy [46:37] and Jay Tokov. Hello, my name [46:41] is Melinda Matson Spina on [46:44] OCTOBER 5th, 2024. I sent this [46:47] board a letter. Administrator [46:49] Lesher had sent you a memo that [46:52] there was confusing overlap [46:54] between military proposals [46:56] coming to Pima County. My [47:00] letter expanded on that fact. I [47:01] wrote that many of us were [47:03] concerned not only about these [47:06] proposals overlap, but their [47:08] changing use of the word [47:10] hazardous in relation to [47:13] civilian life, their lack of [47:15] transparency, and their glaring [47:18] absence of any mention of [47:21] drones or ai. I reminded you [47:23] that military announcements [47:25] were rapidly advancing ai [47:27] enabled weapons. And to be [47:29] clear, surveillance is a weapon [47:31] that tracks targets and [47:34] controls people. I wrote that [47:35] we were in the earliest stages [47:38] of navigating ethics, let alone [47:40] policy around these issues, and [47:44] I formally requested that you, [47:47] the leaders, start talking to [47:50] us, the people, about this. [47:53] That was two years ago. Now [47:56] it's everywhere. The future is [47:58] being decided for humanity by a [48:01] dozen or so billionaires, a [48:04] future built on vast expansion [48:07] of strip mining, radioactive [48:11] reprocessing, hyperscale data, [48:14] mass surveillance, ai directed [48:18] kill chains, global conflict, [48:21] and upon each individual's [48:24] personal intellectual property [48:28] without consent and without [48:32] quantitative support. Frontline [48:33] communities are getting hit [48:35] first because the front line [48:39] never changes. Supervisor Allen, [48:41] you have my deep gratitude for [48:43] doing your best to catch up to [48:47] the people. Supervisors Christy [48:50] Hines and Scott, you were also [48:51] put in office by the people to [48:54] serve the people. In regards to [48:57] your work around Project Blue, [48:59] I have an announcement for you [49:02] and those like you, politicians [49:03] who make deals or decisions [49:06] around technology before real [49:08] rules for that technology even [49:10] exist are not serving the [49:12] people. So some of us in our [49:13] community, together with other [49:15] communities across the [49:16] southwest, are now working to [49:18] produce a documentary film. So [49:21] that movement, this movement, [49:23] integrity and your negligence [49:25] will both be better marked in [49:30] history. Thank you. And our [49:39] next speaker is Megan Fink. [49:41] Good evening. Thanks for having [49:43] me. Chairs and members of the [49:44] board. I'm Megan Fink, director [49:45] of programs and events at [49:47] Startup Tucson and ten West [49:49] here. On behalf of our ceo, Liz [49:50] Pocock, I'm sure you all know [49:52] well to express our support for [49:55] the memorandum mou for [49:57] workplace, for the economic [49:59] Development people to move into [50:00] our building. As the longest [50:02] running occupant of that [50:03] building, we are thrilled to [50:04] see these partners come [50:05] together to further activate [50:07] the building and continue [50:09] building on downtown Tucson's [50:11] innovation story. We've had a [50:13] long standing partnership with [50:15] Pima County Economic [50:16] Development and the University [50:17] of Arizona, including our [50:19] friends at uac, who follows me [50:20] in a second, and we're excited [50:22] to see those partnerships [50:24] deepen as this initiative [50:25] evolves. We look forward to [50:26] continuing to play a role in [50:29] making workplace a place where [50:30] entrepreneurs, partners, and [50:32] new ideas come together. Thank [50:33] you for your leadership and [50:34] continued investment in [50:35] Southern Arizona's innovation [50:39] community. Thanks. Thank you. [50:41] Our next speaker is Casey [50:46] Carrillo. Good evening, Chair [50:47] Allen and members of the board. [50:49] My name is Casey Carrillo, and [50:50] I am the chief innovation [50:51] officer at the University of [50:53] Arizona Center for innovation. [50:54] That's a mouthful. We go by uac [50:57] for short. I would like to [50:59] express uac support for Pima [51:01] County's vision to activate the [51:03] place building as a hub for [51:05] innovation, entrepreneurship [51:06] and economic opportunity in [51:09] downtown Tucson. Pima County [51:10] has been a long standing and [51:12] valued partner in advancing [51:13] economic development across [51:14] southern Arizona, which makes [51:16] this partnership especially [51:18] impactful and its ability to [51:19] support the full continuum of [51:21] economic growth. From helping [51:23] our entrepreneurs and small [51:24] businesses to the full scale [51:26] and large scale businesses that [51:27] we can help attract here to [51:29] Pima County in southern Arizona. [51:32] Through these efforts, uac has [51:34] served more than 300 startups [51:35] and were long standing partners [51:36] and working very closely with [51:37] Pima County Economic [51:38] Development on our Soft [51:41] Landings program and our fdi [51:42] efforts. So we were very [51:43] excited for the reactivation of [51:46] this hub. The right place [51:47] building represents an exciting [51:49] opportunity to build on this [51:50] momentum by creating a place [51:52] that supports entrepreneurs, [51:54] fosters innovation, and [51:56] continues the and helps support [51:58] the continued growth and [52:00] vitality of downtown Tucson. [52:01] Thank you for your leadership [52:03] and commitment to economic [52:05] development. Uac is a proud [52:06] partner with Pima County and [52:08] creating opportunities that [52:09] strengthen Southern Arizona [52:10] today and generations to come. [52:13] Thank you so much. And that was [52:14] only about 30s. So thank you [52:17] all. Thank you. Our next [52:21] speaker is Douglas Levy. I'd [52:23] like to take some of her time. [52:25] Chair Allen and members of the [52:26] board. My name is Doug Levy. [52:28] I'm a proud Democrat in Pima [52:29] County with my business in the [52:31] heart of downtown Tucson. And I [52:33] take seriously how this board [52:36] spends our tax dollars. I have [52:37] closely read MR. Perez's [52:39] memorandum and the financial [52:40] materials submitted to the [52:42] board. I believe they raise [52:44] more questions than they answer. [52:46] As MR. Blumenthal pointed out. [52:48] First, MR. Perez now [52:52] acknowledges that 52,200 of the [52:54] 122,000 Pima County allocation [52:56] went toward personnel expenses. [52:59] Nearly half of the county's [53:00] contribution. That matters [53:02] because this contract has been [53:03] presented as primarily [53:06] supporting programs. Taxpayers [53:07] deserve to know exactly how [53:10] much of our money is supporting [53:12] administration and executive [53:13] compensation, and what [53:14] measurable County services we [53:18] receive in return. Second, cec [53:21] reports nearly $298,000 in [53:22] operating revenue, [53:25] approximately 57,700 in net [53:28] revenue, and more than 240,000 [53:29] in expenditures. Yet Pima [53:30] County is being asked for [53:34] another $122,000, more than six [53:37] times the city's recurring [53:39] $19,600 allocation. And then [53:42] there is performance cec points [53:46] to 5750 Fafsa completions and [53:48] tens of millions of dollars in [53:50] potential financial aid. But [53:52] Fafsa completion is a [53:54] collaborative effort involving [53:57] schools, counselors, colleges, [53:58] families, the Arizona Board of [54:00] Regents, and other [54:01] organizations. The materials do [54:03] not establish how many of those [54:05] outcomes were uniquely [54:06] attributable to c, e, c, or, [54:09] more importantly, what Pima [54:12] County's $122,000 specifically [54:15] produced. There is also the [54:17] teen town hall, which did not [54:20] happen secs own expenditures. [54:23] Expenditure records show a $207 [54:25] cancellation fee paid for the [54:28] venue in NOVEMBER 2025. This is [54:29] the organization's own [54:31] paperwork, confirming that a [54:34] program described as a 30 year [54:36] initiative did not occur. I [54:38] also want to address [54:39] compensation. MR. Perez's [54:41] materials use inflation to [54:43] justify his salary, pointing [54:46] back to approximately $70,000 [54:47] salaries for his predecessors. [54:49] But inflation alone cannot be [54:51] the standard for taxpayer [54:52] funded compensation. [54:54] Compensation should also [54:56] reflect qualifications, [54:58] responsibilities, performance [55:00] and measurable deliverables. [55:01] Delivery. I'm not asking the [55:03] board to make this decision [55:05] based on personalities or [55:07] relationships. I am asking you [55:09] to apply the same standard to [55:10] this organization that [55:12] taxpayers expect from every [55:13] public expenditure. Show us [55:15] what was promised, what was [55:17] delivered, what it cost, and [55:19] what results taxpayers received. [55:21] If you approve funding, I [55:23] strongly urge you to require [55:25] itemized contractual [55:26] deliverables, quarterly [55:28] financial reporting. Thank you. [55:29] And then our last speaker is [55:37] Jay Tarkoff. Well, good evening, [55:40] board members, staff, fellow [55:44] citizens. I came here with a [55:46] statement in mind and my [55:47] thunder is pretty much been [55:49] ripped away. So I'm just going [55:50] to wing it. I'm going to start [55:53] out with a statement, which is [55:57] extremely scary to me. 48 years [55:58] and ten days ago, I drove [56:00] across country and established [56:02] residency here in Pima County, [56:05] which means that I'm really old. [56:08] I am a retired person, and in [56:12] my retirement, I've decided to [56:14] spend time interacting with [56:16] many, many different groups of [56:19] people across the spectrum to [56:21] try to bring a better Pima [56:26] County to us all. I was utterly [56:29] amazed at of people [56:31] that have reached out to me in [56:32] the past couple of weeks about [56:37] the issue, and being a guy who [56:38] has directly employed almost [56:40] ten 000 people in this County [56:44] in his life, I'm really aware [56:46] of that old saying that [56:47] sometimes it's tough to [56:48] remember. Your objective was to [56:49] drain the swamp swamp when [56:52] you're up to your in alligators, [56:55] and I don't want to make any [56:56] assumptions about the [56:58] leadership at sec because I [57:00] don't have enough information. [57:02] But I do know this, that [57:03] there's a lot of people out [57:05] there that are not happy with [57:07] the results. They're talking [57:08] about it. And the decision that [57:10] you make today is going to [57:11] resound with a lot of people [57:13] that you might not be aware of. [57:18] I will say that I am a bit [57:21] concerned about how cec has [57:24] been run. I, I reviewed almost [57:26] 130 pages of documents in the [57:30] last week that have been [57:33] provided through your offices. [57:34] And, you know, just on a [57:37] surface, I see an organization [57:39] that in one month paid three [57:43] months of rent with penalties. [57:45] That doesn't say a well-run [57:48] organization. We've talked [57:51] about the the event that didn't [57:52] happen, but there was a [57:53] substitute event that happened, [57:55] which was supposedly a [57:57] democracy forum that was really [57:58] nothing more than a litany of [58:01] Partizan people on stage. I [58:03] don't think that is a [58:05] reasonable expense for the [58:06] taxpayers to fund, and I think [58:08] more than anything else, it's [58:09] amazing to me that this [58:11] contract was basically up at [58:13] the end of the fiscal year, and [58:15] almost a month and a half later, [58:17] that organization is coming [58:18] before this board asking for [58:21] more money. I would say the, [58:22] you know, they don't have their [58:24] eye on the ball the way it [58:26] should be. And I think there's [58:27] a lot of people out there that [58:29] know that I wanted to make sure [58:31] you were aware of it, and I [58:32] thank you for your time. Thank [58:34] you. And with that, if there [58:36] are no more speakers, I am [58:41] closing. Oh, would you could [58:42] you please fill out a speaker [58:47] card after up right there. [58:52] Super easy. Yeah. So if you [58:54] want to go ahead, you can fill [58:56] that out afterwards. Oh, I have [58:58] oh, you could, you can go ahead [58:59] and speak and then fill it out [59:01] afterwards. I don't want to [59:02] waste any time. Hand it in and [59:04] then we will start the three [59:06] minute timer as soon as we get [59:07] started. CHAIRWOMAN. Go right [59:08] ahead. Okay. Thank you. Thank [59:09] you. So, CHAIRWOMAN Allen, [59:12] thank you very much. My name is [59:13] Jacqueline. Adele Kim. I come [59:14] here on behalf of the United [59:16] States Air Force reservists [59:18] here at Davis-Monthan. I'd like [59:20] once again to please take a [59:21] moment of silence for that [59:23] honorable citizen that we lost [59:39] earlier this evening. I'm here [59:40] today to speak about an [59:42] extremely important matter, and [59:45] I am here on behalf of the [59:50] Center to End Domestic Violence. [59:54] Sorry to take a turn down a [59:55] dark alley that we never wanted [59:56] to fully address here in the [59:59] state of Arizona. Let's talk [1:00:01] domestic violence and guns. [1:00:04] These are the facts. A woman in [1:00:05] an abusive relationship is five [1:00:07] times more likely to be [1:00:09] murdered when her partner has [1:00:11] access to a gun. I'm a peace [1:00:15] officer. I do not carry. Learn [1:00:17] what you can do to protect your [1:00:19] safety. These are widely [1:00:21] available, widely available. I [1:00:23] don't I don't know who's not [1:00:24] ever heard of the emergency [1:00:26] centers and domestic violence [1:00:27] here in the state of Arizona, [1:00:29] Arizona in the County. I don't [1:00:32] know. What's alarmed me greatly [1:00:35] is that the more and more and [1:00:37] more that we see the violence [1:00:39] in the state of Arizona, the [1:00:40] violence in the city of Tucson, [1:00:42] the violence in the County of [1:00:44] Pima increase, increase and [1:00:47] increase. It seems like [1:00:49] survivors of domestic violence. [1:00:51] Advocates of domestic violence. [1:00:52] DR. Heinz, who used to work at [1:00:54] Tucson Medical Center. You were [1:00:55] one of my training physicians. [1:00:57] Oh my gosh, I've heard your [1:01:00] background. I'm glad that you [1:01:06] no longer work there. I'm very [1:01:07] disappointed in the recent care [1:01:08] that I've received at Tucson [1:01:10] Medical Center. But again, the [1:01:12] issue is about domestic [1:01:14] violence and guns. Seven women, [1:01:16] 70 women on average, are killed [1:01:17] every month by an intimate [1:01:21] partner with a gun. A 2015 [1:01:23] report found by found that [1:01:24] Arizona's domestic violence gun [1:01:27] homicide rate is 45% higher [1:01:32] than the national average. The [1:01:35] same report showed that 62% of [1:01:36] women killed by an intimate [1:01:37] partner in Arizona were shot to [1:01:45] death. Shot to death. I don't [1:01:46] think this is the way that we [1:01:48] need to proceed in the state of [1:01:51] Arizona. So here are some [1:01:54] warning signs. To get a [1:01:55] domestic violence protective [1:01:57] order in the state of Arizona. [1:02:00] County of Pima. City of Tucson. [1:02:01] An order of protection is an [1:02:03] issue is issued by any court in [1:02:04] Arizona is designed to prevent [1:02:07] abuse. What you can ask for in [1:02:09] this pamphlet. I have one [1:02:10] second. Thank you very much. My [1:02:13] name is Jacqueline Kim. Wish [1:02:15] you all very well this evening. [1:02:20] Thank you. So with that, we're [1:02:21] going to close call to the [1:02:23] public. And would any board [1:02:24] members like to do any of the [1:02:25] following request staff to [1:02:27] follow up on a matter from call. [1:02:28] The public requested an item be [1:02:30] placed on a future agenda or [1:02:32] respond to a criticism. [1:02:35] Supervisor Kino Chair Allen. I [1:02:37] simply wanted to thank the [1:02:38] bravery of our neighbor [1:02:40] Jacqueline, who just came up to [1:02:42] discuss a very pressing issue [1:02:43] of rising domestic violence [1:02:45] cases throughout Pima County. [1:02:47] You can take a little bit of a [1:02:49] deep breath to know that this [1:02:54] board, just a few weeks ago, [1:02:56] approved an additional $250,000 [1:02:58] investment in domestic violence [1:02:59] prevention programs, including [1:03:00] the Southern Arizona Center [1:03:02] Against Sexual Assault, the [1:03:05] Emerge Center Against Domestic [1:03:07] Violence and Abuse, as well, [1:03:08] particularly the County, is [1:03:09] going to be ensuring that some [1:03:13] of the forensic exams that are [1:03:15] administered after an act of [1:03:18] violence against a victim are [1:03:19] processed in a way, and we are [1:03:21] filling the gaps and really [1:03:23] critical ways. I know all of us [1:03:25] share that commitment. This [1:03:28] board voted. And to advance [1:03:31] that additional priority. And I [1:03:32] you know, I just want you to [1:03:34] know, Jacqueline, that we're [1:03:35] paying very close attention to [1:03:37] the attention to this. And with [1:03:39] many people in my life who have [1:03:40] been impacted by domestic [1:03:43] violence, including losing a [1:03:46] family member to a stabbing by [1:03:48] her boyfriend. This is a very [1:03:49] sensitive issue that we will [1:03:51] always be paying attention to [1:03:56] and District 5. Thank you. [1:04:00] Thank you, Supervisor Cano. We [1:04:03] are now going to move on to the [1:04:07] regular agenda. We have moved [1:04:13] up items 18, 19 and addendum [1:04:17] item number seven. And so I [1:04:18] think though, given that we [1:04:21] have people here who are for [1:04:23] that are here for item number [1:04:25] 19, the Southern Arizona [1:04:26] Education Council, that will [1:04:28] pop that up and address that [1:04:30] one first. So we'll take that [1:04:32] one now and then come back to [1:04:33] the Pima County Economic [1:04:36] Development Strategic Plan. So [1:04:40] for item 19, this is a contract. [1:04:41] This was continued from the [1:04:44] previous meeting to provide for [1:04:46] advancing economic, academic [1:04:48] success and civic engagement [1:04:54] for 122,000. I am the [1:04:57] representative of the board on [1:04:58] representative of the Board of [1:05:01] Supervisors on the board of [1:05:03] saec. So I wanted to just share [1:05:07] a few initial comments, you [1:05:09] know, for for just context, [1:05:12] right? Mec saec has been a [1:05:14] standing body standing [1:05:15] commission that is jointly of [1:05:18] the city and the County for 36 [1:05:21] years. Since 1990, it has been [1:05:23] the role of the Board of [1:05:25] Supervisors to appoint a member [1:05:27] from the board to the to the [1:05:29] Commission. In recent years it [1:05:32] has been both. Chair Scott. It [1:05:34] was Supervisor Grijalva, and [1:05:36] then as of JANUARY it has been [1:05:41] me, I and I have participated [1:05:43] in one board meeting held this [1:05:48] year. The County gives out [1:05:50] hundreds of contracts and [1:05:54] grants every single year. [1:05:55] Undoubtedly in many of them, [1:05:58] the leadership of that [1:06:00] organization or that business [1:06:03] are highly paid, and they MAY [1:06:05] be earning salaries that are [1:06:08] many times that of their lowest [1:06:10] paid employee. And I will say [1:06:14] the board has not, and I would [1:06:17] believe, should not attempt to [1:06:21] manage salary levels. And I [1:06:23] think that there was we we [1:06:24] received comments, too, about [1:06:26] comparing the salary to that of [1:06:29] teachers and noticing that [1:06:31] discrepancy, which I. Which is [1:06:33] a tremendous. Which is just [1:06:36] well, it's it is wrong, [1:06:37] woefully wrong that our [1:06:39] teachers are underpaid. But I [1:06:41] don't think that that is an [1:06:42] argument for lowering the bar [1:06:45] that we should all be striving [1:06:46] towards being paid at the lower [1:06:48] level that teachers are. [1:06:49] Instead, it should be about [1:06:51] raising the bar for for [1:06:56] educators in our state. And I [1:06:58] and I also just want to flag [1:06:59] that I don't believe that it is [1:07:01] the role of the Board of [1:07:04] Supervisors to be micromanaging [1:07:06] decisions that are made by. In [1:07:09] this particular case of sac of [1:07:11] the executive Committee of the [1:07:13] board. Those are decisions that [1:07:14] are made by that entity's [1:07:16] executive committee, and that [1:07:18] is. I don't think that it is [1:07:20] our role to dig in and splice [1:07:21] and dice, that we don't do it [1:07:23] for other entities, and I'm [1:07:25] concerned about the call that [1:07:29] we should do it here. After [1:07:32] looking at the the detailed [1:07:36] reports from sec, there's a few [1:07:37] things that I just wanted to [1:07:40] note. The organization is [1:07:41] doubled the number of host [1:07:44] schools for a total of 18, [1:07:45] added a new school system and [1:07:47] almost tripled the number of [1:07:48] peer coaches. Those are [1:07:50] significant achievements. [1:07:52] Program evaluation showed that [1:07:54] 90% of advisors and 96% of peer [1:07:56] coaches had an overall positive [1:07:58] experience. The partnership [1:07:58] with the Arizona Board of [1:08:01] Regents has been a smart move, [1:08:02] allowing sort of a shared [1:08:04] investment model for greater [1:08:08] impact and reach smart use of [1:08:09] technology, which can expand [1:08:11] program reach and the [1:08:12] effectiveness, such as using [1:08:14] the Strive scan to track [1:08:16] registration and engagement and [1:08:18] parent square to increase [1:08:20] communication with parents. And [1:08:22] then in the contract that that [1:08:25] we have before us today. I am [1:08:27] comfortable with the four [1:08:28] deliverables that were [1:08:30] specifically outlined. So one [1:08:32] is that at least 4000 students [1:08:33] receive college and career [1:08:34] readiness support, with a [1:08:36] minimum of 2500 completing [1:08:38] post-secondary applications, [1:08:39] scholarships or Fafsa [1:08:40] submissions with peer coaching [1:08:42] staff assistance. Second, [1:08:44] students participating in at [1:08:45] least two community based [1:08:46] opportunities for public [1:08:47] service policy learning. [1:08:50] Community advocacy. Third, [1:08:51] increasing Fafsa submissions by [1:08:54] 15% each year, and fourth, [1:08:55] delivering a minimum of three [1:08:57] signature events, reaching at [1:09:00] least 3200 students, family [1:09:01] members, educators, and civic [1:09:05] leaders. Going forward. For me [1:09:06] personally, I have appreciated [1:09:08] that Marana and Vale School [1:09:10] System school districts are now [1:09:12] among the participating [1:09:13] districts, and I would love to [1:09:16] see Ajo, and Bobby Yu school [1:09:18] districts included. The vision [1:09:20] of Southern Arizona Education [1:09:22] Council is the right direction. [1:09:24] There needs to be a plan, I [1:09:26] think, to make a regional [1:09:28] impact more of a reality. I [1:09:30] think it's important to set a [1:09:31] schedule for board meetings and [1:09:33] a plan for filling existing [1:09:36] board slots. And then I think [1:09:38] last, I would be interested too, [1:09:39] in moving forward and thinking [1:09:41] about how Pima County can [1:09:43] assist with reaching families. [1:09:45] We have 7000 employees and some [1:09:47] have children in high school [1:09:48] and would be interested in [1:09:50] knowing how we can be a good [1:09:51] partner in integrating the [1:09:53] services and the programs in [1:09:59] within the County. I would like [1:10:04] to move this forward with two. [1:10:08] With us having two votes, one [1:10:13] being around the the [1:10:14] recommendations from the County [1:10:15] administrator and considering [1:10:17] those recommendations, the [1:10:23] other being for the contract. I [1:10:25] would like to move to approve [1:10:30] funding the contract for [1:10:33] 122,000. Second, seconded by [1:10:36] Supervisor Hines. Is there [1:10:41] discussion. MR. Scott. Chair [1:10:43] Allen, I appreciate all of your [1:10:45] comments and I appreciate your [1:10:47] service. As our liaison to the [1:10:49] Southern Arizona Education [1:10:53] Council Board. Along with [1:10:56] adding participation by the two [1:10:57] school districts that you [1:11:01] mentioned. Ajo, and Baboquivari. [1:11:02] I would also like to see moving [1:11:05] forward participation by [1:11:07] Catalina Foothills Flowing [1:11:09] Wells and Tanque Verde, who [1:11:12] were not yet included in the [1:11:16] peer coaching program. I'm not [1:11:19] able to support continuing [1:11:22] support for the County at the [1:11:24] level that we have provided for [1:11:29] the last two years of $122,000, [1:11:31] and I have several reasons for [1:11:35] that. One of them is that I [1:11:38] think that, just like I have [1:11:39] said from this dais to people [1:11:42] from job path, I think that the [1:11:44] Southern Arizona Education [1:11:46] Council needs to diversify [1:11:49] their revenue base. The County [1:11:52] is providing a significant part [1:11:55] of of the revenue. And the [1:11:58] County administrator proposed [1:12:02] what I thought was a way of not [1:12:04] only helping to diversify that [1:12:07] funding base, but also to [1:12:10] potentially bring in even more [1:12:11] revenue than you're getting [1:12:13] right now. If you look at the [1:12:14] County administrator's [1:12:17] memorandum from AUGUST 19th, [1:12:19] the fourth option that she [1:12:24] offered was funding at $19,580 [1:12:26] based on the city's allocation, [1:12:27] with a commitment for Pima [1:12:29] County to increase funding up [1:12:33] to $122,000 as a 1 to 1 match [1:12:35] for documented new funding [1:12:39] secured by cec above fiscal [1:12:43] year 2025 2026 amounts, meaning [1:12:45] that if sec brought in [1:12:47] additional funding from another [1:12:49] entity, the County would match [1:12:50] that as long as it was [1:12:53] documented. MR. Perez made what [1:12:55] I thought was a valid point [1:12:58] when he said that the city's [1:13:01] allocation should not just be [1:13:04] 19,000, should not be just the [1:13:06] $19,580 that's coming out of [1:13:07] the city manager's budget. But [1:13:09] we should also take into [1:13:12] account the slightly more than [1:13:18] $30,000 of. Slightly more than. [1:13:20] $20,000. I think it was an [1:13:23] in-kind contribution for the [1:13:26] rent of a city facility. So [1:13:28] what I would do, Chair Allen, [1:13:31] is make a substitute motion [1:13:36] that we would fund at $40,000 [1:13:38] based on the city's allocation, [1:13:39] with a commitment for Pima [1:13:41] County to increase funding up [1:13:45] to $122,000 as a 1 to 1 match [1:13:46] for documented new funding [1:13:49] secured by cec above fiscal [1:13:58] year 2025 2026 amounts. So I'm [1:14:01] not hearing a second. We will [1:14:03] continue on if there is further [1:14:05] discussion on the existing [1:14:06] motion. Supervisor Christy, [1:14:08] just for clarification, MADAM [1:14:10] Chair, when you made your [1:14:12] motion, does that include [1:14:15] retaining the current director? [1:14:20] I yes, that that's not our the [1:14:21] the agenda item is, is to [1:14:23] continue the contract or [1:14:24] whether the contract is what's [1:14:26] on the table. And so my motion [1:14:30] is to fund the contract for [1:14:33] 122,000 and retain MR. Perez as [1:14:35] the director. That's not our [1:14:38] decision. So it's basically [1:14:41] just to fund the fund, the [1:14:43] money to the organization, [1:14:46] regardless of personnel or [1:14:48] executive leadership. Correct. [1:14:50] Okay. Thank you, MADAM Chair. [1:14:51] The contract is what's on the [1:14:53] table. And then I did note just [1:14:55] just to clarify, is there is [1:14:57] going to be a second vote that [1:14:59] looks at some recommendations [1:15:00] that the County administrator [1:15:02] had put on the table. So this [1:15:04] is a vote for the contract [1:15:06] amount and then separate. We [1:15:09] can look at the recommendations. [1:15:12] So Chair Allen, Supervisor [1:15:16] Scott, I neglected to say this [1:15:18] earlier. Another reason I [1:15:21] cannot support that amount is [1:15:24] it the city of Tucson is [1:15:27] contributing one sixth of what [1:15:31] the of what Pima County is [1:15:32] providing. And even if we take [1:15:35] into account the in-kind [1:15:37] contribution of rent, this [1:15:39] inequity in funding a joint [1:15:41] city County Commission, which [1:15:44] has been a historic concern for [1:15:46] most of the 36 years that the [1:15:48] Commission has been in place, [1:15:49] is not something that I can [1:15:51] continue to support. I can [1:15:53] remember when I was a member of [1:15:56] the Executive Board of the [1:15:57] Metropolitan Education [1:15:59] Commission, we had former [1:16:02] former late supervisor Elias [1:16:03] and then Ward one Council [1:16:05] member, Regina Romero, come to [1:16:07] an executive board meeting and [1:16:08] assure us that equalizing [1:16:09] funding between the city and [1:16:11] County would be a priority. [1:16:13] That's never happened. So [1:16:14] that's another reason that I'm [1:16:19] just not able to support that. [1:16:21] I'm I want to continue to [1:16:23] support the organization, but [1:16:25] there needs to be a means of [1:16:28] addressing this historic [1:16:30] inequity between funding for [1:16:32] what was has always been a [1:16:35] joint endeavor of both [1:16:40] jurisdictions. Supervisor Hines, [1:16:43] thank you. Look, sometimes I [1:16:44] think maybe there hasn't been [1:16:45] the best communication, but I [1:16:47] can point to the same thing [1:16:48] with other entities that we [1:16:50] fund at a very at a much larger [1:16:52] amount. We give half $1 million [1:16:55] to the Southern Arizona Chamber. [1:16:58] And what's that? And I don't [1:16:59] know. The city gives much, if [1:17:01] at all. So. And also the city [1:17:03] is in a bit of a pickle right [1:17:04] now. I mean, later on in this [1:17:06] agenda, we're going to approve [1:17:08] $35 million for asphalt, by the [1:17:10] way. So I just think it's [1:17:12] important. Context is important. [1:17:14] We've seen an increase in Fafsa [1:17:14] applications, which I [1:17:15] appreciate. That's what it's [1:17:17] there for. This was originally [1:17:20] a two city of Tucson County of [1:17:22] Pima entity. And so I would [1:17:23] like to see it supported at the [1:17:25] same level. And again, I think [1:17:26] it's important to differentiate. [1:17:30] This board does not like hire a [1:17:32] director or tell this other [1:17:33] board how to do their job. [1:17:35] That's this is this is to [1:17:38] simply saying this type of [1:17:39] service and this type of work [1:17:41] is a priority for Pima County, [1:17:43] as it should be. And we should [1:17:46] work with sec to, to make these [1:17:50] numbers bigger, frankly. Chair [1:17:51] Supervisor Cano, first off, I [1:17:53] want to say thank you to you, [1:17:55] Chair Allen, for your service [1:17:57] on this Southern Arizona [1:17:59] Education Council. All of us on [1:18:01] this board have an assignment [1:18:03] to a regional entity. And I [1:18:06] applaud your leadership as the [1:18:08] only board member with a parent [1:18:12] in our public schools right now [1:18:14] whose peers benefit from [1:18:16] college access and college [1:18:18] attainment, the partnership [1:18:19] that the County has had with [1:18:21] the former Metropolitan [1:18:22] Education Commission, now [1:18:24] Southern Arizona Education [1:18:26] Council is nearly three decades [1:18:29] in the making. I was one of [1:18:30] their participants with the [1:18:32] Youth Advisory Council, Tucson [1:18:34] Teen Congress, when I was 15 [1:18:36] years old. I went through the [1:18:38] program, took my first trip to [1:18:40] Washington, dc to advocate for [1:18:42] Early Childhood Education fund, [1:18:44] to be doing that now as a board [1:18:47] of supervisor. And I was able [1:18:49] to meet an entire network of [1:18:51] folks like MISS Martinez at the [1:18:54] young age of 15, 16, 17, 18, [1:18:56] all throughout high school and [1:18:58] college, to be able to [1:19:00] encourage folks to give to [1:19:02] their community by going to [1:19:04] school. And just in the last [1:19:06] two years, from a statewide [1:19:09] perspective, when we have had a [1:19:11] significant drop in Fafsa [1:19:13] applications because of a [1:19:14] botched rollout, for instance, [1:19:16] with the Department of [1:19:17] Education, where Pima Community [1:19:19] College had to come in, where [1:19:20] our University of Arizona had [1:19:22] to come in to be able to say, [1:19:25] we want our kids to go to [1:19:26] college. The decision that I'm [1:19:27] making today to support this [1:19:29] motion is irrespective of who [1:19:31] the executive director is, it [1:19:36] is irrespective of the what I [1:19:38] feel is, is ultimately trying [1:19:41] to put this board into a binary [1:19:43] choice between whether we [1:19:45] support progress or not. I will [1:19:47] always vote for our kids and [1:19:49] for our youth and for our [1:19:52] children. And I, I, I encourage [1:19:56] those who are looking for an [1:19:57] opportunity to make sure that [1:19:59] their taxpayer dollars are well [1:20:02] spent. Please know that this [1:20:03] County, thanks to you. Thanks [1:20:05] to the hard working taxpayers [1:20:07] of this jurisdiction, support [1:20:09] outside agencies in a [1:20:12] meaningful way. $4 million [1:20:14] annually going to regions, [1:20:15] nonprofits from housing [1:20:20] security, from access to legal [1:20:22] to legal rights. When it comes [1:20:24] to people's worst nightmares, [1:20:28] having opportunity. There's [1:20:30] over 130 organizations that get [1:20:31] County dollars. And if I were [1:20:33] to go line by line asking each [1:20:35] and every single one of them [1:20:37] about some of the concerns that [1:20:39] have been brought for this [1:20:41] contract, I just don't think [1:20:43] it's a good precedent. And I, I [1:20:46] implore us to figure out how we [1:20:48] can ensure that some of the [1:20:50] recommendations that the [1:20:51] administrator has made can [1:20:58] really be. Explored before we [1:21:00] absolutely decimate a program [1:21:03] that, in my opinion, is working [1:21:04] the way that this contract is [1:21:06] brought forth right now as a [1:21:08] proposal through the economic [1:21:09] development team is different [1:21:11] than our outside agency team. I [1:21:13] have questions about what that [1:21:15] means moving forward, and how [1:21:16] we are ensuring that there is [1:21:18] some parity in that. Because [1:21:21] the to my colleague from [1:21:22] district two, his point there [1:21:23] are other organizations who [1:21:25] have not had to go through the [1:21:28] three memorandums of inquiries [1:21:31] that we've had. And let me [1:21:34] remind the. Let me remind us [1:21:35] the difference between the [1:21:37] County and the city funding [1:21:39] structure. Cities are dependent [1:21:41] on sales tax and state shared [1:21:43] revenue. That means that their [1:21:46] budget goes like this every [1:21:48] single year. And the flat tax [1:21:50] passed by the state legislature [1:21:52] just a few years ago has meant [1:21:53] that cities and towns and their [1:21:57] revenue is going like this. The [1:21:59] County is funded through [1:22:02] property taxes. Property taxes [1:22:05] are stagnant. In most cases. We. [1:22:06] Whether those economic storms [1:22:09] and people's property is now [1:22:11] worth more when the valuations [1:22:12] come up. And so that's how [1:22:13] we've been able to continue [1:22:15] making investments across the [1:22:16] board in our people and our [1:22:18] nonprofits in our community. So [1:22:20] to put the expectation that we [1:22:22] would go to 40,000, or we would [1:22:24] go to 2000 to match what the [1:22:26] city is doing means that there [1:22:29] would be fewer students served. [1:22:31] I refuse to accept that reality, [1:22:33] and I look forward to [1:22:39] supporting the motion. I feel [1:22:40] compelled to just throw in one [1:22:42] last little morsel. Sorry. I [1:22:46] know we try to keep moving, but [1:22:47] so I am the. I'm the first [1:22:50] person in my family and for a [1:22:51] large swath of family to [1:22:53] graduate with a four year [1:22:54] degree. And one of the things [1:22:56] that means is that my parents [1:22:59] were not able to help me do the [1:23:01] search for college and to fill [1:23:02] out the applications and think [1:23:04] about where do I want to go and [1:23:06] all of that labyrinth. We were [1:23:09] we were fortunate enough to. We [1:23:11] had we had to hire somebody who [1:23:13] could like, sit down and walk [1:23:15] me through all of the paperwork [1:23:16] that was necessary and think [1:23:18] about where to go. Those, those [1:23:20] roles. If I hadn't had that [1:23:22] help, things would have been [1:23:25] very different. So the support [1:23:27] that is that needs to be there, [1:23:29] I think often gets taken for [1:23:31] granted without having if you [1:23:33] don't come from parents who [1:23:34] understand what that process [1:23:37] looks like, it's really hard to [1:23:40] navigate. So I appreciate the [1:23:42] work then that is done. To hold [1:23:44] kids by the hand. Especially [1:23:46] had it been done by a peer [1:23:50] would have been amazing. So the [1:23:52] the work is important and I [1:23:54] have lived the importance of [1:23:57] that kind of work. So with that, [1:24:00] all those in favor. Chair. [1:24:02] Sorry to interrupt. Oh, on the [1:24:05] on the you mentioned splitting [1:24:06] this into two votes. It's [1:24:08] agendized as a contract vote. [1:24:11] If there is a desire to put [1:24:13] conditions on a vote of [1:24:14] approval, that MAY be [1:24:15] appropriate, but a separate [1:24:17] vote is not agendized for the [1:24:20] rest of the recommendations. [1:24:23] Good point. All right, all [1:24:28] right. So I we're gonna have to [1:24:36] bundle back into one vote. So. [1:24:41] Can. Yeah, I'll withdraw my [1:24:44] motion and then put forward a [1:24:50] new motion that is to approve [1:24:55] the contract for 122 k and [1:24:57] include the recommendations [1:24:59] that the County administrator [1:25:03] had outlined in the AUGUST 9th [1:25:05] memo, I believe. Chair. Alice. [1:25:09] AUGUST 5th, AUGUST 5th memo [1:25:10] that states one develop a [1:25:11] matrix of monthly, quarterly [1:25:13] annual reports and deliverables, [1:25:14] including blah, blah, blah, [1:25:16] blah blah. Two provide the [1:25:17] board and supervisors with [1:25:18] quarterly reports on the [1:25:20] operations sac beginning [1:25:21] OCTOBER 1st and three. Schedule [1:25:23] the requested amendment to Pima [1:25:26] County Board resolution for [1:25:27] consideration. The SEPTEMBER [1:25:28] 8th Board of Supervisors [1:25:31] meeting. Those recommendations, [1:25:33] I think, bolster the [1:25:35] transparency, accountability, [1:25:38] communication and start to get [1:25:41] some of the the paperwork [1:25:43] alignment right for the new [1:25:46] resolution for the name. So [1:25:49] that is my new motion. Second, [1:25:54] second and administrator Lesher. [1:26:02] MADAM. Can we. Is it. I'm. To [1:26:05] the. I'm sorry. Can we. Well, [1:26:07] we'll finish our. We had call [1:26:10] to the public which was the [1:26:14] time to speak about it. I I'm [1:26:15] not I'm sorry. Not right now. [1:26:17] We can't we can't do it during [1:26:19] without being in call to the [1:26:23] public. Thank you. Seconded. [1:26:24] Discussion. Chair. Alan. Go [1:26:28] ahead. Thank you, Chair Allen. [1:26:29] Administrator Lesher, I want to [1:26:31] commend you for being a strong [1:26:33] champion of our partnership [1:26:34] with the Southern Arizona [1:26:35] Education Council and ensuring [1:26:37] that these recommendations to [1:26:39] ensure transparency and [1:26:41] oversight are included in the [1:26:43] recommendations. Is it not the [1:26:46] case with this overarching [1:26:48] contract of 122,000 that the [1:26:50] County is also, if they are not [1:26:52] compliant with some of these [1:26:54] recommendations, this payment. [1:26:55] Question number one is this [1:26:58] payment is not a lump sum. And [1:26:59] so is that is that accurate? [1:27:02] And number two, if we see as a [1:27:04] board that there are [1:27:06] deficiencies in administering [1:27:07] the recommendations that this [1:27:09] board approves, how do you make [1:27:11] that decision to not send the [1:27:12] second, the third or the fourth [1:27:14] check? Does that question make [1:27:15] sense? It does. Thank you. [1:27:17] Chair Allen and Supervisor Kino, [1:27:18] as we note in the [1:27:19] recommendation, we are looking [1:27:21] for the inclusion in this [1:27:23] contract, a very specific [1:27:24] reporting requirements, what we [1:27:26] have been discussing, and we [1:27:28] can work with the organization [1:27:30] examples we have of another [1:27:32] organization where there are [1:27:33] regular deliverables. We [1:27:35] receive those deliverables a [1:27:36] response, and we see what they [1:27:38] have done each month and at the [1:27:40] end of the month or the quarter, [1:27:41] whatever we've determined, if [1:27:43] everything has come in as it is [1:27:44] required, then payment is sent. [1:27:46] So I think that's one of the [1:27:47] things that we can that our [1:27:49] staff will be working with sac [1:27:50] to make sure we understand [1:27:51] those very specifics, that [1:27:53] without the work being done and [1:27:54] the report coming to the board, [1:27:55] the next checks wouldn't be [1:27:58] sent. Thank you for that [1:28:00] clarification. Chair Allen. [1:28:02] Supervisor Scott, I want to [1:28:06] thank you for attempting to [1:28:08] divide the question. That was [1:28:10] at my request, as you know, and [1:28:11] I'm sorry that I got you in [1:28:13] trouble with MR. Brown. I am [1:28:15] going to support your new [1:28:18] motion because although I [1:28:19] disagree with the amount, for [1:28:23] the reasons that I stated, the [1:28:26] measures that are recommended [1:28:28] by the County administrator in [1:28:30] her AUGUST 5th memo, I think [1:28:32] are going to not only safeguard [1:28:37] our investment, but also assist [1:28:40] both our staff and sac staff in [1:28:44] making sure that the priorities [1:28:45] of the organization in terms of [1:28:48] student service are exemplified. [1:28:50] And, you know, it means a great [1:28:52] deal to me to hear you and [1:28:54] Supervisor Cano talk about the [1:28:55] role that education has played [1:28:58] in your lives, because as the [1:29:01] only educator on this dais, I [1:29:04] spent close to three decades [1:29:05] working in middle and high [1:29:07] schools with the kind of [1:29:08] students who are served by the [1:29:10] Southern Arizona Education [1:29:12] Council. The one of the very [1:29:15] first things that I did as a [1:29:16] student council advisor when I [1:29:18] was a seventh grade teacher, [1:29:21] was take students to a [1:29:22] Metropolitan Education [1:29:23] Commission event. I was the [1:29:25] principal of a school that [1:29:27] hosted the teen town hall more [1:29:29] than once. And as I said [1:29:31] previously, I was on the [1:29:33] Metropolitan Education [1:29:35] Commission Executive Board [1:29:37] during my last position as a as [1:29:41] a principal. And it was because [1:29:43] of that long history and [1:29:44] appreciation for and [1:29:47] understanding of the role the [1:29:48] Commission now Council has [1:29:50] played in our community for 36 [1:29:52] years, that I asked the [1:29:55] questions that I did. And to be [1:29:57] fair, I waited two months to [1:30:00] get answers. Two months. And [1:30:02] then when those answers came in, [1:30:04] I did have some follow up [1:30:06] questions and I got answers to [1:30:08] those. I do feel good about [1:30:11] what I'm hearing about the peer [1:30:12] coaching program. I am glad [1:30:17] that there is a date for a date [1:30:20] certain for a teen town hall. I [1:30:24] do think that there is. Still a [1:30:26] lot of questions that I have [1:30:27] about the partnership with [1:30:28] Santa Cruz County, but I know [1:30:31] that we're taking that up on [1:30:33] SEPTEMBER 8th based on, on, on [1:30:38] this, on on this motion, if [1:30:39] it's approved. But I just want [1:30:41] my colleagues to know I asked [1:30:44] these questions not to start up [1:30:48] some kind of intraparty dispute [1:30:50] that was an essentially an [1:30:51] extension of the legislative [1:30:54] district 20 Democratic primary. [1:30:59] Nor did I want to make this a [1:31:01] discussion about the person who. [1:31:04] As Chair Allen pointed out, the [1:31:06] saac board has appointed as [1:31:08] their chief employee. We have [1:31:10] no role in that. What I wanted [1:31:13] to bring up were questions that [1:31:15] I had about what was happening [1:31:17] and what was not happening [1:31:20] during the last contract year [1:31:21] before we approved a new [1:31:23] contract. I did that not only [1:31:26] because of my past as an [1:31:27] educator, my interest in the [1:31:29] work of the commission, but [1:31:32] it's because I have a fiduciary [1:31:33] responsibility, as all of us do [1:31:35] when we're considering a [1:31:36] contract, a six figure contract. [1:31:38] And yes, it's small compared to [1:31:40] some of the other things that [1:31:41] come before us. But I felt [1:31:42] those questions were important [1:31:46] to ask, and I appreciate MR. [1:31:48] Perez's responses, and I look [1:31:51] forward to the work that the [1:31:52] Commission does. I'm sorry I [1:31:53] keep calling it the commission. [1:31:55] The council does in in the year [1:31:57] to come. And Chair Allen, thank [1:31:59] you for your new motion, which [1:32:03] I will be pleased to support. [1:32:05] Supervisor Christy. I keep [1:32:07] listening to the discussions, [1:32:08] listening to the call to the [1:32:11] public, listening to our my [1:32:13] colleagues, reading letters to [1:32:15] my office from numerous [1:32:17] citizens about this whole issue. [1:32:20] And I, I, I know there's [1:32:21] something missing here, and I [1:32:23] think I put my finger on it. [1:32:25] It's called common sense. There [1:32:27] are so many red flags being [1:32:29] waved in this whole process [1:32:32] from the leadership of this [1:32:34] organization that it to me, it [1:32:36] is astounding that we can sit [1:32:39] here and not raise those issues [1:32:44] every everything. That points [1:32:47] to dysfunction points to the [1:32:49] way that the structure is is [1:32:51] created in this organization. [1:32:54] And it starts at the top. The [1:32:56] issue of, of sitting on the [1:32:59] city Council and putting excess [1:33:01] funds from his predecessor and [1:33:02] directing it to the same [1:33:03] commission, he's going to come [1:33:06] back and sit as the executive [1:33:07] director from going down to [1:33:09] Santa Cruz County and bringing [1:33:10] bringing them on board. And [1:33:12] then they're not on board, but [1:33:13] yet keeping a name that [1:33:15] includes them, all of these [1:33:18] issues, I think, show that [1:33:20] there is something inherently [1:33:22] wrong with the structure of [1:33:24] this organization. And it [1:33:27] starts at the top. We can't [1:33:29] proceed. And with my colleagues [1:33:32] saying that it's only $122,000, [1:33:34] or we have a fiduciary [1:33:36] relationship with the community [1:33:38] to make sure that everything is [1:33:41] is being spent properly, [1:33:42] $122,000 is still taxpayer [1:33:44] money, and we have to look at [1:33:46] how it's being spent and who is [1:33:48] spending it and what leadership [1:33:51] is behind it. Until the [1:33:52] leadership and the until the [1:33:55] inherent structure of this [1:33:58] organization is dismantled and [1:34:00] started over, if even if indeed [1:34:03] it even needs to be, then we [1:34:05] must really look at what we're [1:34:07] doing as far as our [1:34:09] responsibility to the taxpayers. [1:34:11] This whole thing stinks to high [1:34:13] heaven. There's flags and [1:34:15] signals that are saying so, and [1:34:18] it. And I just can't understand [1:34:20] why my colleagues aren't more [1:34:21] concerned about how taxpayer [1:34:24] money is being spent and where [1:34:25] the money is going, and who's [1:34:28] in charge of it. Thank you, [1:34:32] MADAM Chair. All those in favor? [1:34:36] Aye. Opposed? Opposed. Motion [1:34:41] passes for one Chair. Yes. For [1:34:42] clarification. For the record, [1:34:44] based on that motion, there is [1:34:46] a contract that was just [1:34:48] approved, but there are three [1:34:49] recommendations that should not [1:34:51] be considered incorporated by [1:34:53] reference into that contract. [1:34:54] Our office will make those [1:34:57] changes. But so the the version [1:34:59] that's in the agenda was not [1:35:00] the version that was just [1:35:01] approved. It's the version [1:35:02] version based on the motion [1:35:04] that includes those three [1:35:04] recommendations. And we'll [1:35:06] submit those changes to the [1:35:08] board office. Thank you, thank [1:35:13] you. I'm going to hop. As I [1:35:15] know I said we were going to go [1:35:17] to one thing. I'm going to pop [1:35:18] this to one other thing. Just [1:35:20] because there's a number of [1:35:21] people that are here for [1:35:22] addendum item number seven. [1:35:23] That's the University of [1:35:24] Arizona with the mou [1:35:25] establishing the Arizona, [1:35:27] Arizona, Taiwan Talent and [1:35:30] Innovation Hub at the Roy Place [1:35:33] building. Oh. Addendum eight oh, [1:35:41] sorry. So. Addendum eight. I [1:35:43] will move the item. Okay. [1:35:44] Seconded by Supervisor Hines. [1:35:46] Any discussion, MADAM Chair [1:35:48] Supervisor Christy, let me [1:35:49] preface my remarks by saying I [1:35:52] have the utmost respect for the [1:35:54] for the program, for the [1:35:55] University's involvement in it, [1:35:57] and for the speakers who are [1:35:59] here tonight speaking in favor [1:36:03] of this motion. I have a [1:36:05] problem with that. I, I that is [1:36:07] causing me not to be able to [1:36:09] support this, this particular [1:36:11] item for one particular reason. [1:36:15] I feel that the location is [1:36:17] misguided and misplaced. The [1:36:21] Roy Place building is not being [1:36:25] utilized now. It is in a very [1:36:28] highly attractive area for [1:36:30] development. It should be put [1:36:34] to use to derive income and in [1:36:35] a lease basis, maybe even a [1:36:38] purchase basis for the [1:36:40] taxpayers. I have no problem [1:36:43] with the with the connection [1:36:46] between Taiwan and the [1:36:47] educational elements and the [1:36:49] innovative elements of it, I [1:36:51] think is terrific, but I think [1:36:52] that it needs a second look at [1:36:56] to the location. It's downtown. [1:36:59] It's a iconic building that has, [1:37:01] I think, such capacity to [1:37:04] generate revenue and, and be [1:37:06] put on the tax rolls and create [1:37:07] income for the County and for [1:37:10] its citizens. And I would [1:37:12] suggest that the the best place [1:37:15] that this entity or this [1:37:17] headquarters should be located [1:37:20] is preferably at at one of our [1:37:22] u of a tech parks. It makes [1:37:24] sense to put something of this [1:37:26] technical, innovative nature in [1:37:28] one of our tech parks, rather [1:37:30] than a building downtown that [1:37:33] could be generating income and [1:37:34] revenue for the taxpayers of [1:37:38] Pima County. I would hope that [1:37:40] I'm certain that this is going [1:37:42] to pass as presented, but I [1:37:44] would hope that perhaps the [1:37:47] leaders behind this and at the [1:37:48] university would consider [1:37:50] putting it in a more opportune [1:37:53] place to to grow and to enhance [1:37:56] the whole ethos of what they're [1:37:57] trying to do, rather than [1:38:00] putting it downtown in a, in a [1:38:02] location that could be put on [1:38:04] the tax rolls and, and be [1:38:07] generating revenue. So I'm, I [1:38:09] respect the folks that talk [1:38:10] tonight. They're friends of [1:38:12] mine. I, I applaud the efforts [1:38:14] that they're doing. I just feel [1:38:16] that the location is wrong and [1:38:18] that it would be better located [1:38:20] at a tech park. And we have [1:38:21] beautiful tech parks. As a [1:38:22] matter of fact, there's one in [1:38:27] district four. So I won't be [1:38:30] able to support this based on [1:38:31] where the location is. Not not [1:38:34] the project, not the connection [1:38:36] with the innovation, but the [1:38:37] location. Thank you, MADAM [1:38:40] Chair. Chair Allen. Supervisor, [1:38:41] I have an inquiry and a [1:38:45] question of the administrator [1:38:46] or an inquiry. Then I'm going [1:38:48] to make a statement. [1:38:49] Administrator Lesher is it not [1:38:52] the case already that your [1:38:55] office is exploring the best [1:38:58] way to limit our footprint [1:39:01] downtown, and to look for [1:39:02] avenues to bring in additional [1:39:04] revenues with their existing [1:39:06] properties? Chair Allen [1:39:07] Supervisor Connor Yes, we have [1:39:09] been spending a couple of years [1:39:10] looking at how we can [1:39:12] reallocate, how we use space [1:39:13] differently, and how we can [1:39:15] combine facilities so that we [1:39:17] can get out of leases on some [1:39:18] buildings or those we own. We [1:39:20] could sell if necessary. So yes, [1:39:23] sir. So for the folks watching, [1:39:24] watching at home, the County is [1:39:26] already looking for ways to [1:39:27] reduce our footprint footprint [1:39:30] in the downtown area that can [1:39:31] encourage public private [1:39:33] partnership, that can get [1:39:34] properties that don't need to [1:39:36] be on the on the county's tax [1:39:37] roll into the private sector. [1:39:39] That's a good thing because [1:39:41] it'll mean efficiency. It'll [1:39:43] mean us being a lot smarter [1:39:45] about the space that we are [1:39:48] using. Second, welcome to our [1:39:50] partners in Taiwan to District [1:39:51] 5, and the opportunity for us [1:39:54] to continue to look for ways to [1:39:55] grow our footprint downtown and [1:39:58] to ensure that public private [1:39:59] partnerships, especially with [1:40:02] our academic institutions, be a [1:40:04] core focus of our economic [1:40:05] development as a County and as [1:40:07] a region. I have seen [1:40:09] partnerships like this work in [1:40:11] other communities, particularly [1:40:12] in Phoenix, attending Arizona [1:40:14] State University and seeing [1:40:16] that downtown campus when it [1:40:17] was just starting, when it was [1:40:19] completely brand new, when the [1:40:20] dorms were being built, and now [1:40:23] it is a state of the art [1:40:25] extension of higher education, [1:40:27] of economic development. And I [1:40:29] believe very strongly in our [1:40:30] partnership between our County [1:40:32] economic development team, our [1:40:34] academic institutions, but most [1:40:35] importantly to the people of [1:40:37] Taiwan who have invested, [1:40:38] particularly in one County, [1:40:40] very heavily, I am eager to get [1:40:43] some of those resources down to [1:40:45] our County, the second largest [1:40:46] County, because it's good [1:40:49] economic development, it's good [1:40:50] international relations, and [1:40:52] more than anything, it's an [1:40:55] exciting opportunity for a [1:40:56] return on investment to the [1:40:59] taxpayers. Thank you, [1:41:01] Supervisor Haynes. Thank you. [1:41:03] And excellent comments from my [1:41:04] colleague from district five as [1:41:05] well. I would say, having been [1:41:08] to Taiwan and I will be going [1:41:11] back tomorrow, actually, I [1:41:14] details matter where especially [1:41:18] for this first this first [1:41:21] building, this first this [1:41:23] effort details matter very, [1:41:25] very much. Heck, when they [1:41:26] didn't have my title right on a [1:41:28] couple of cards, people freaked [1:41:31] out. Right? So it is important [1:41:32] that we make a statement not [1:41:35] just by saying, yes, we're [1:41:36] going to partner with u of a [1:41:37] and the County. And that's [1:41:39] great, but doing it in a place [1:41:40] where it's literally across the [1:41:42] street from the seat of our [1:41:43] County government and right [1:41:44] next to City Hall and right [1:41:47] next to the court and in a very [1:41:48] prominent central location. And [1:41:50] there will be so many more uses, [1:41:52] amazing uses for the tech parks [1:41:54] and district four. And in other [1:41:55] districts. Do not worry, [1:41:57] because not only will this be [1:41:58] the start of a great [1:42:01] relationship with an nyc u, but [1:42:02] also we have an exchange. I [1:42:04] think it's 20 students, right? [1:42:05] Anyway, but we already have an [1:42:09] exchange going on with n, s y, [1:42:10] su2020 students coming here, I [1:42:12] think right now and then going [1:42:14] there from u of a and that's [1:42:16] that university is actually in [1:42:17] Zhoushan, which is our sister [1:42:20] city now. So I think anywhere [1:42:23] we can, the semiconductor [1:42:25] adjacent ecosystem that is that [1:42:26] is driven, of course, by the [1:42:28] critical mass that is tsmc up [1:42:30] in North Phoenix is going to [1:42:32] bring, I believe, a tremendous [1:42:35] amount of economic benefit and [1:42:37] innovation and so many, so many [1:42:39] benefits to the state and [1:42:40] southern Arizona and the nation. [1:42:42] So I'm happy that it's going to [1:42:45] be that this this relationship, [1:42:49] this initial entity is going to [1:42:51] be right right here downtown, [1:42:56] across the street from us. I [1:42:59] have a sort of related [1:43:01] unrelated request, I think, of [1:43:05] the administrator. And, and it [1:43:08] is, you know, we have been [1:43:10] trips to Taiwan, we've signed a [1:43:14] few MoUs looking at this mou [1:43:15] for the use of the Roy place [1:43:17] and the Talent and Innovation [1:43:19] hub. And a lot of times around [1:43:22] the sort of semiconductor [1:43:25] adjacent ecosystem I would I [1:43:27] would love a memo that breaks [1:43:29] that down a bit more. I feel [1:43:30] like there's a lot of terms [1:43:34] that are used that I that are [1:43:37] unclear. And I would, I would [1:43:39] benefit from and I, and I think [1:43:41] the public could benefit from [1:43:42] understanding, you know, sort [1:43:46] of what it is that we are what, [1:43:47] what, what's what are the steps [1:43:49] that we are taking? What are we [1:43:51] moving into? And, and while we [1:43:52] MAY not know and the [1:43:54] relationship is evolving, I [1:43:56] think we can have some [1:43:58] anticipation of both the [1:44:00] industry and, and kind of the [1:44:02] path that we are building step [1:44:03] by step. Because what I, what I [1:44:06] don't want to happen is that we, [1:44:08] we take one small step, a small [1:44:10] step, a small step, and then we [1:44:13] arrive somewhere without having, [1:44:14] without seeing the big picture [1:44:17] from the from the outset, I [1:44:19] don't know if that's enough [1:44:21] information, if I. Okay. Thank [1:44:23] you. And Chair Allen, [1:44:24] supervisor really quick with [1:44:25] administrator Lesher because I [1:44:27] think it's really important for [1:44:29] this to be a unanimous vote to [1:44:30] send a good economic [1:44:31] development message to the [1:44:32] people of Taiwan. There is no [1:44:36] mention in this mou about costs [1:44:38] associated. And is that [1:44:40] accurate? And isn't it right [1:44:42] that this has always been a [1:44:45] revenue generating parcel? [1:44:48] We've had. But right before we [1:44:50] became vacant, it was being [1:44:51] leased and we and the County [1:44:54] taxpayers were getting [1:44:57] resources, were they not? Chair [1:44:59] Allen Supervisor. Kino yes, the [1:45:03] lease amount was $100 a year. [1:45:05] From. Yeah. And that's pretty [1:45:06] typical of academic [1:45:08] partnerships. It was. Yes, [1:45:12] there was a. The County can't [1:45:14] just provide services like that [1:45:16] or rent like that as a gift. It [1:45:18] has to be something that [1:45:19] provides a significant return [1:45:21] on investment to taxpayers. So [1:45:23] what that the allocation and [1:45:25] the distribution of services [1:45:27] and the the benefit received [1:45:30] was delineated and that the [1:45:32] $100 was not simply because we [1:45:33] were giving him something nice. [1:45:35] We got lots in return. And that [1:45:38] will be the same in these [1:45:41] agreements. Got it. Chair Allen, [1:45:42] Supervisor Scott following up [1:45:47] on the concerns expressed by [1:45:48] Supervisor Christy and the [1:45:49] points made by Supervisors [1:45:52] Haynes and Kono. I'm looking at [1:45:55] the program goals and predicted [1:45:58] outcomes in the Vice Chair. I [1:46:02] wonder if we could have staff [1:46:04] comment on why this particular [1:46:07] location is best suited in [1:46:10] terms of helping to achieve [1:46:13] those goals and outcomes? Thank [1:46:17] you, MR. Debonis. Thank you. [1:46:19] Chair Allen and Supervisor [1:46:21] Scott. I think, as was noted, [1:46:23] this is a central location in [1:46:25] in downtown Tucson. It's [1:46:29] adjacent to other key partners [1:46:31] that the County has in the work [1:46:32] that we're doing from an [1:46:34] economic development standpoint [1:46:35] and just from a community [1:46:38] support standpoint. And so when [1:46:40] you look at the confluence of [1:46:41] Pima County government, the [1:46:45] city of Tucson, the Rio Nuevo [1:46:47] District, the University of [1:46:49] Arizona, and proximity and [1:46:50] connectivity to the university [1:46:53] by the the modern streetcar. We [1:46:56] have other major employers in [1:46:58] the downtown community. So when [1:47:01] you look at hexagon having [1:47:03] their national headquarters [1:47:08] here in Tucson, we have also [1:47:10] others in the community. Tucson [1:47:12] Electric Power is located in [1:47:15] the downtown area where [1:47:18] adjacent to caterpillar, west [1:47:21] of of the freeway, there's been [1:47:23] a revitalization in investment [1:47:25] in in small businesses in the [1:47:28] downtown area, both privately [1:47:30] funded and through the Rio [1:47:32] Nuevo District. We've seen an [1:47:36] expansion intentionally, with [1:47:38] hospitality units being brought [1:47:41] into the downtown area. There [1:47:42] is vibrance that is occurring [1:47:45] in in the downtown when we've [1:47:48] had our partners from Taiwan [1:47:50] visiting, they are really [1:47:52] pleased with the potential for [1:47:55] having a presence in a downtown [1:47:56] community. Right. And so you [1:47:59] start to build synergies that [1:48:01] are, you know, greater than, [1:48:03] than the sum of the individual [1:48:07] parts. The County has purchased [1:48:09] the Wells Fargo former Wells [1:48:11] Fargo building and will be [1:48:12] relocating the main library [1:48:15] into that space, providing an [1:48:16] opportunity for our City of [1:48:19] Tucson partners to envision [1:48:21] with that property that [1:48:23] currently houses the main [1:48:25] library will be into the future. [1:48:27] So I think that there are a lot [1:48:29] of positives, a lot of touch [1:48:31] points that make this [1:48:34] attractive and make it viable [1:48:38] from partnering and economic [1:48:41] success potential. MR. MR. [1:48:42] Debonis, thank you and Chair [1:48:45] Allen, thank you, MADAM Chair. [1:48:48] One quick question. What was [1:48:51] Rio Nuevo response when this [1:48:55] Roy Place building became [1:48:59] available for this organization? [1:49:01] This this partnership did was [1:49:04] it was it presented to Rio [1:49:06] Nuevo that they could look at [1:49:07] it? Did they have an [1:49:08] opportunity to say anything [1:49:10] about economic development of [1:49:13] that that parcel Chair Allen [1:49:15] and, and Supervisor Christy, [1:49:17] we've had conversations with [1:49:19] Rio Nuevo about spaces and. No. [1:49:21] But that particular one. Well, [1:49:24] and I yes. And so Roy Place has [1:49:28] been a location that Rio Nuevo [1:49:32] has expressed some interest in [1:49:35] for potential uses, as they [1:49:36] have with the Wells Fargo [1:49:38] building. I think that if we [1:49:41] put in perspective the whole [1:49:44] purpose of Rio Nuevo right is a [1:49:46] tax incentive district [1:49:47] supported by sales tax. And so [1:49:50] their mission is to promote [1:49:53] uses that generate sales tax in [1:49:55] in the district boundary. I'm [1:49:57] aware that there their mission, [1:49:58] their uses. I'm just wondering [1:50:00] what their response was. But [1:50:01] did they have some viable plans [1:50:04] or possibilities that that [1:50:06] property could be utilized in [1:50:08] some manner other than what [1:50:10] it's being planned for now, [1:50:12] just up the block, as you [1:50:14] pointed out, we have a Dao [1:50:15] County County Library that's [1:50:17] taking over another iconic [1:50:19] building downtown. I'm just [1:50:21] curious if if there was any [1:50:23] response to this whole effort [1:50:25] by Rio Nuevo Chair Allen [1:50:26] Supervisor Christy, there was [1:50:28] not a specifically identified [1:50:30] use. The discussions were that [1:50:32] they would have interest in [1:50:35] seeing potential sales tax [1:50:36] generating uses in there, but [1:50:38] there was no specific [1:50:39] opportunity that was presented [1:50:43] to the County for those [1:50:48] locations. Right? Okay. There [1:50:51] is no further discussion. All [1:50:54] those in favor I opposed [1:51:02] opposed item passes four one. [1:51:04] Now we are going to go to item [1:51:07] number 18. Back on the regular [1:51:11] agenda. This is unfinished [1:51:12] business. This is the Pima [1:51:14] County Economic Development [1:51:23] Strategic Plan. I am going to [1:51:27] move that. We continue the plan. [1:51:30] Oh I'm sorry, I'm just jumping [1:51:35] in. Which never mind, I said [1:51:38] nothing. Well, I just I, I am [1:51:40] going to put forward a motion [1:51:41] to, to continue the plan, which [1:51:44] is not preclude the [1:51:46] presentation by any means. In [1:51:48] fact, I think it still warrants [1:51:50] for having discussion. I [1:51:52] completely your call. We happy [1:51:54] to table this for the next [1:51:55] whenever you want to discuss it [1:51:57] or not, table it. We'll do it [1:51:58] all when we discuss it. Thank [1:52:03] you. Okay. I did want to know [1:52:05] why I would like to continue it, [1:52:10] if I MAY. I think, you know, [1:52:11] largely because this plan [1:52:13] matters and it matters a whole [1:52:16] lot. You know, we're at a time [1:52:19] with such economic instability [1:52:22] and unprecedented wealth [1:52:24] concentration and people making [1:52:26] our average salary for the [1:52:28] region, being unable to pay the [1:52:30] bills, let alone thrive. So, [1:52:33] you know, our roadmap for [1:52:35] strengthening our economy, I [1:52:38] really feel should be discussed [1:52:41] thoroughly, kind of by us and [1:52:44] and between us. So I would love [1:52:46] to put on the study, the next [1:52:49] study session, the plan. And [1:52:51] then I also want to make sure [1:52:54] that we have a specific [1:52:56] discussion carved out for us to [1:52:59] talk about the targeted [1:53:02] industries. There is a list of [1:53:03] seven targeted industries [1:53:06] within the plan, and I think [1:53:09] there are significant that we [1:53:10] should discuss if they all make [1:53:13] sense for us in Pima County. [1:53:14] What goes behind determining [1:53:16] what is on those targeted [1:53:19] industries? But but ensure that [1:53:20] it's been something that has [1:53:23] been vetted and thought through [1:53:26] by us. There was also a few [1:53:28] things that that I've requested [1:53:31] be added that I thought were [1:53:33] missing, and I did want to flag [1:53:36] those. Now, from a district [1:53:38] three perspective, the the plan [1:53:44] is very urban centric. The. [1:53:46] Rural and unincorporated I mean, [1:53:49] rural is mentioned three times [1:53:51] in the plan in relationship to [1:53:54] broadband and another time in [1:53:56] relation to the Small Business [1:54:03] Commission. I think the the. [1:54:04] Business retention and [1:54:06] expansion attraction, workforce, [1:54:07] infrastructure, all of those [1:54:09] pieces play out uniquely in [1:54:11] rural areas and different in [1:54:14] rural areas than, than in the, [1:54:16] the urban core or in urban [1:54:18] areas. And I, and I do need to [1:54:21] see some of how we're thinking [1:54:24] about economic, the [1:54:26] strengthening of the economy in, [1:54:28] in rural areas and [1:54:32] unincorporated Pima County. And [1:54:35] then also teasing out, teasing [1:54:37] out more of the focus on small [1:54:39] business. I'm excited that [1:54:41] we've got new staff that are [1:54:43] coming on board within the [1:54:46] department and who will be [1:54:48] focusing on supporting small [1:54:51] business. And I think in the [1:54:53] report, you see that small [1:54:55] business activities show up in [1:54:57] the different pillars because [1:54:59] it is so fundamental to [1:55:01] strengthening our economy. I [1:55:02] would like to see how, how [1:55:04] those pieces fit together and [1:55:10] what they add up to. And then [1:55:11] thinking too about the [1:55:13] Prosperity initiative. And I [1:55:15] would love to see deeper [1:55:17] integration of the prosperity [1:55:19] Initiative that is tied to [1:55:21] small business support. You [1:55:24] know, Prosperity Initiative has [1:55:26] behind or underneath all of the, [1:55:29] the 13 policies and the three [1:55:32] cross section policies are a [1:55:33] slew of really specific [1:55:35] policies that have been [1:55:36] researched, evidence based. [1:55:38] There are case studies behind [1:55:40] them. And in the small business [1:55:42] context, there's outlines of [1:55:44] regional loan funds, loan loss [1:55:46] guarantee programs. There's [1:55:47] building purchase assistance [1:55:50] for entrepreneurs, capital [1:55:52] provider collaborations, and, [1:55:54] and so there's like creative [1:55:56] things that are outlined in [1:55:57] prosperity. And I would love to [1:55:59] see how some of those pieces [1:56:01] that we have approved from [1:56:04] prosperity are showing up some [1:56:05] innovative approaches, creative [1:56:07] approaches, evidence based [1:56:09] approaches that support small [1:56:13] business growth. There's a few [1:56:15] other things I noticed that the, [1:56:18] the, the KPIs, the key [1:56:21] performance indicators aren't [1:56:24] are not finalized. There's a [1:56:25] list and it says that they [1:56:28] might be drawn from that list. [1:56:31] You know, KPIs should reflect [1:56:32] what we think matters, right? [1:56:34] We should be looking for [1:56:35] indicators for the things that [1:56:37] are important to us in [1:56:39] assessing progress towards them. [1:56:40] They reflect, you know, kind of [1:56:42] where we want and need to see [1:56:44] economic progress. And they [1:56:45] help us assess if we're on the [1:56:47] right path or of course, [1:56:50] correction is needed. So I just [1:56:52] would need to see those defined, [1:56:55] I think, before being able to [1:56:59] approve a plan. And then I not [1:57:00] everyone loves a logic model, [1:57:02] but there is a page that talks [1:57:06] about a logic model. They have [1:57:07] some value. But, but it's not [1:57:09] it's not what the page on the [1:57:10] logic model. That's not a logic. [1:57:15] It's not done. You know, a [1:57:17] logic model sort of maps out [1:57:20] how programs will have the [1:57:23] impacts and the outcomes that [1:57:25] that that the various [1:57:26] activities of that program are [1:57:28] going to achieve. Given that [1:57:30] we've got new work from [1:57:31] business retention, expansion, [1:57:34] the fdi work, those are new [1:57:36] programs. And so articulating [1:57:38] what impact we want to have [1:57:39] from them, what the outcomes [1:57:41] that we anticipate from those, [1:57:43] and then what we are doing to [1:57:44] achieve them, I think, given [1:57:49] its newness, would be valuable. [1:57:52] And then last, last piece that [1:57:55] I feel like is missing is, is [1:57:58] about the, the perspective of [1:58:03] low wage workers. I suspect [1:58:06] that within stakeholder groups, [1:58:08] the perspective of low wage [1:58:12] workers was not included. I [1:58:15] think there's a lot of emphasis, [1:58:17] as there should be on both [1:58:19] bringing in higher wage jobs [1:58:22] into our community, reskilling, [1:58:24] upskilling, getting people into [1:58:27] new, higher wage jobs. But the [1:58:28] fact remains that those low [1:58:31] wage jobs are still there and [1:58:32] someone's going to fill them. [1:58:34] And then we're going to have to [1:58:35] figure out a way to reach those [1:58:36] folks and upskill, reskill, get [1:58:38] them into new. Right. It's sort [1:58:40] of a continuing cycle. And so [1:58:42] it begs the question, and it is [1:58:43] a question that the Prosperity [1:58:44] Initiative has laid out an [1:58:48] answer to, which is about how [1:58:50] to how to how to raise the [1:58:52] floor. How do we incentivize [1:58:55] business to invest in increased [1:58:58] wages and benefits? And so we [1:59:00] have thought about this, but [1:59:01] it's a piece that I think that [1:59:02] we've thought about in the [1:59:04] context of prosperity. I would [1:59:06] love to see our plan address [1:59:08] that. So we're not just going [1:59:09] around and around moving people [1:59:10] into higher wage jobs and then [1:59:12] constantly having to pull [1:59:16] people up as wages stay low. [1:59:17] Yes. Sorry. Just maybe should [1:59:19] we move this for discussion [1:59:21] purposes so that we can keep [1:59:22] doing this? Or do you want to [1:59:25] just I just want to clarify [1:59:27] what you or do I just want to [1:59:28] keep talking. That was actually [1:59:29] my last point. Prerogative of [1:59:31] the Chair You can talk as long [1:59:33] as you want. I just wanted to [1:59:34] make sure we're not getting in [1:59:35] trouble with Sam Brown or, you [1:59:38] know, anything. Yeah. I had [1:59:41] moved to continue the item. Was [1:59:45] it a motion? Sorry. Motion? I [1:59:47] thought I did it in motion. You [1:59:48] did. But then you were [1:59:50] explaining the motion. Yes. And [1:59:56] other. Yes. Chair Ellen, to [2:00:03] what date? The SEPTEMBER 22nd [2:00:05] second. Seconded by Supervisor [2:00:06] Kino. Chair, just to clarify [2:00:09] your motion. So you are moving [2:00:11] to continue item number 18, [2:00:13] which is the adoption of the [2:00:15] strategic plan to SEPTEMBER [2:00:17] 22nd. But then in your [2:00:18] discussion, you also spoke [2:00:20] about adding the Economic [2:00:21] Development strategic plan to a [2:00:23] study session. Did you want [2:00:26] that also on SEPTEMBER 22nd or [2:00:30] on SEPTEMBER 8th? Chair Allen [2:00:32] Yes, if I if I could suggest [2:00:37] something because just the [2:00:40] items that you want to discuss, [2:00:43] I think could take up a [2:00:44] significant part of a study [2:00:46] session, I think there would be [2:00:51] value in having the plan as the [2:00:53] sole agenda item for a [2:00:56] SEPTEMBER 8th study session, [2:00:58] and then it could be taken up [2:01:00] again for consideration on the [2:01:02] 22nd, if that was acceptable to [2:01:03] you and to the agenda committee, [2:01:05] because I know that you have to [2:01:08] discuss that with them. Chair [2:01:10] Allen, as you consider how you [2:01:12] would like us to be allies in [2:01:14] this motion, I, I just want to [2:01:17] say I, I'm more. The experience [2:01:20] that I had with the updates to [2:01:21] the economic development plan [2:01:23] and District 5 interest in [2:01:25] ensuring that early childhood [2:01:27] education was a strategic [2:01:29] priority was best worked out in [2:01:31] a meeting that I had with the [2:01:32] Economic Development director [2:01:34] and consultation with the [2:01:38] administrator, I. I don't love [2:01:40] everything in this plan, but [2:01:42] the framework is there that I [2:01:43] would feel comfortable [2:01:46] supporting it. Today. I will [2:01:47] say that it is important for [2:01:50] this to be a plan that has the [2:01:52] support of the majority members, [2:01:54] and that we hold hands with our [2:01:55] colleague from district three [2:01:56] and ensuring that some of those [2:01:59] key points are mentioned. But [2:02:01] what I want to avoid in a study [2:02:02] session is wordsmithing. And I [2:02:04] fear that if we do that in a [2:02:07] study session form, it will [2:02:08] take up the whole meeting and [2:02:10] perhaps it can, but I, I do [2:02:12] feel that a lot of what you are [2:02:13] recommending can can be [2:02:16] addressed in a in meetings [2:02:18] outside of the regular board or [2:02:23] study session personally. Chair [2:02:25] excuse me, a clarification, if [2:02:27] I MAY, to I heard at 1.2 study [2:02:28] session items, if you will. One [2:02:30] for the discussion of the plan [2:02:32] and one you're interested in a [2:02:33] deeper dive on targeted [2:02:36] industries. So I think where [2:02:38] those two separate items that [2:02:40] we would like it study sessions [2:02:42] or how to do it, I have been [2:02:44] thinking study session, [2:02:46] discussion of targeted [2:02:50] industries, vote on plan on [2:02:51] SEPTEMBER 22nd at the next at [2:02:55] the next meeting. So just to [2:02:58] clarify, Chair Alan, you want [2:03:00] to limit the study session [2:03:01] discussion to targeted [2:03:03] industries. But the other [2:03:05] points that you had to. [2:03:08] Supervisor Kono's point, you [2:03:09] might address them in the same [2:03:11] way that not only he addressed [2:03:14] his concern, but in the same [2:03:17] memorandum I had for [2:03:20] recommendations as well, that I [2:03:22] was pleased that the the team [2:03:24] was willing to adopt, [2:03:25] especially in terms of more [2:03:27] what I consider to be more [2:03:29] detailed and fulsome. Annual [2:03:33] reporting. So how about this? [2:03:35] How about we have the [2:03:38] presentation and study session, [2:03:40] an explicit conversation, [2:03:42] discussion around the targeted [2:03:44] industries, and then with. And [2:03:46] if there are other discussion [2:03:48] pieces, then we've had the [2:03:50] presentation. So just in terms [2:03:53] of agenda ization, it is open [2:03:55] for other discussion because of [2:04:00] the presentation. In both study [2:04:02] session and the 22nd in study [2:04:05] session. And then the 22nd is [2:04:07] we're back up for a decision on [2:04:12] the plan. Okay. Just to clarify, [2:04:14] and I'm sorry, Supervisor Hines. [2:04:17] And then just to clarify, and I [2:04:20] and I appreciated the [2:04:23] discussion, this would be the [2:04:25] study session on the eighth. We [2:04:27] we wouldn't have anything else [2:04:31] because if if we do, it's we're [2:04:33] never going to get through this. [2:04:36] Chair Allen Supervisor Scott, I [2:04:38] think the last I looked, we [2:04:39] have at least seven items, 6 or [2:04:41] 7 items on study session at [2:04:43] this point. But it's your [2:04:44] agenda. They are proposed. We [2:04:45] can certainly. The agenda [2:04:47] committee can look at what it [2:04:52] wants to move to other meetings. [2:04:54] I have prepared remarks which I [2:04:56] will not deliver because we are [2:04:58] not going to. I never have [2:05:00] prepared remarks. See, this is [2:05:03] what he was doing earlier. A [2:05:05] long plane ride. Yeah, yeah. [2:05:07] Let me print stuff up. Okay. [2:05:08] Never mind. Yeah. And just so [2:05:11] you guys are one of the items [2:05:12] on study session for SEPTEMBER [2:05:15] 8th is an executive session. Oh, [2:05:23] Sam. Okay. It might not be [2:05:25] possible for it to be the only [2:05:26] item on study session, at least [2:05:28] given the executive session. [2:05:29] And there might be some things [2:05:31] that cannot be moved from study [2:05:33] session. But how about that? [2:05:35] The agenda committee looks at [2:05:37] study session agenda with an [2:05:39] eye towards minimizing those [2:05:40] items. And if there's anything [2:05:42] that can be put on there that [2:05:43] makes sense. Yes, yes. [2:05:45] Streamlining that agenda. And [2:05:47] then that way we can have some [2:05:51] dedicated time. I would just [2:05:53] say Chair. I think it's very [2:05:54] valuable for us. I think people [2:05:56] tend not to tune in as much to [2:05:59] study sessions. And I think the [2:06:00] economic development strategic [2:06:03] plan is something that is [2:06:04] absolutely something we should [2:06:07] be talking about in a as much [2:06:09] as possible during our regular [2:06:10] meeting, just especially if [2:06:12] we're making adjustments and [2:06:14] asking staff clarifications and [2:06:17] my remarks like, like, I think [2:06:19] that would be good to be in the [2:06:21] in the regular meeting as well. [2:06:22] So also, is there just to [2:06:23] clarify from perhaps staff, I [2:06:27] guess, is there like, I mean, [2:06:28] this is just our thing, right? [2:06:30] Is there a deadline for this or [2:06:31] have we like, are we missing [2:06:33] things by not doing this now or [2:06:37] I we're good. Okay. It's just [2:06:38] our plan. Yeah. You got it. [2:06:43] Thank you. Okay, so some items [2:06:45] are going to appear. The only [2:06:47] thing we're voting on is [2:06:50] continuing until the vote on [2:06:53] the plan. Not the next meeting, [2:06:55] but the meeting after that, [2:06:59] SEPTEMBER 22nd. So. And you [2:07:04] split. Continuing. Seconder was. [2:07:07] All those in favor? Aye. [2:07:13] Opposed. Item passes five zero. [2:07:19] Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott [2:07:24] in. Oh. Oh I'm sorry, MISS [2:07:29] Lesher go ahead Cheryl, we are [2:07:34] going to move to la la la. [2:07:37] Regular agenda item number 14. [2:07:42] This is the hearing. With [2:07:46] wastewater conveyance system. [2:07:48] And this is the appeal of the [2:07:50] procurement director's decision. [2:07:54] We have a speaker. Oh, in case [2:07:57] there are questions. Okay. If I [2:07:59] MAY, Chair Allen and just after [2:08:01] collaboration with procurement [2:08:02] and the County Attorney's [2:08:04] office and such, the collective [2:08:05] opinion is we are recommending [2:08:08] to you that you accept the [2:08:10] appeal and award a contract to [2:08:12] I can garden. I pronounced it [2:08:15] correctly, and if that. If you [2:08:19] approve the appeal of this. Of [2:08:21] the procurement director's [2:08:24] decision, we will return on [2:08:25] SEPTEMBER 8th to the regular [2:08:28] agenda with this contract. So [2:08:29] what we would recommend is that [2:08:35] you accept the the appeal. Okay. [2:08:37] So I will move to close the [2:08:39] hearing regarding solicitation [2:08:45] number, rfp dash (260) 000-0677 [2:08:51] and approve. The protest of [2:08:56] Aitken Gardener and Award no. [2:08:59] To accept the appeal. It's [2:09:02] correct. Yes. Second, seconded [2:09:06] by Supervisor Scott. Discussion. [2:09:09] All those in favor? Aye. [2:09:14] Opposed. Item passes four zero [2:09:17] with Supervisor Hines absent. [2:09:20] Okay. Thank you. Chair. Yes. [2:09:23] Supervisor Scott, thank you. [2:09:26] Chair Allen, in the interest of [2:09:28] time, I was wondering if my [2:09:29] colleagues might want to [2:09:31] consider some items in bulk [2:09:33] sitting as the Flood Control [2:09:36] District board, I would move [2:09:39] items seven through 11. Second, [2:09:42] seconded by Supervisor Christy. [2:09:44] Discussion Chair supervisor [2:09:47] Kino. Thank you. I appreciate [2:09:49] the bundling. And I also just [2:09:51] very quickly want to share two [2:09:54] things. Number one, I am asking [2:09:56] the administration to give the [2:09:59] District 5 office an update on [2:10:01] the request to allow the public [2:10:03] to understand some of these [2:10:03] contracts a bit more, and how [2:10:05] many jobs are created when we [2:10:08] are having these contracts go [2:10:11] out to very worthy partners in [2:10:13] the construction industry? It's [2:10:15] not clear right now if we are [2:10:17] if, if any of these items, [2:10:19] seven through 11 are creating [2:10:21] ten jobs, 100 jobs or 400 jobs. [2:10:23] And I know that that's a [2:10:24] request that several months in [2:10:27] the making. Number two, I am [2:10:28] very excited about item number [2:10:30] seven. This is investments that [2:10:32] is going to be correlated with [2:10:34] the construction of the Drexel [2:10:36] Bridge on the southwest side of [2:10:37] town, all in that area, which [2:10:39] is one of our highest grossing [2:10:41] retail areas with the spectrum [2:10:44] mall combined with the bridge, [2:10:45] combined with the improvements [2:10:46] that we're making to the loop [2:10:49] on the eastern side of Santa [2:10:51] Cruz, this is much needed [2:10:53] investment in the people of [2:10:55] district five, and I just [2:10:56] wanted to make sure that I said [2:10:58] that out loud, because that's a [2:10:59] good thing. And I'm excited to [2:11:10] see that. Number seven. All [2:11:12] those in favor? Aye aye. [2:11:18] Opposed. Items pass four zero. [2:11:21] MADAM Supervisor Christy, would [2:11:23] the board consider addressing [2:11:26] items that for hearing items 12 [2:11:34] and 13. Sitting as the board [2:11:41] and. I. So move or do you close [2:11:42] it or should I close you close [2:11:44] it. Then I got to get my [2:11:48] glasses. Oh. I'd like to close [2:11:52] the public hearing. On item [2:11:56] number 12 of Skyline Country [2:11:57] Club's request for firework [2:12:00] permit. I'd also simultaneously [2:12:01] like to close the hearing on [2:12:08] job number 401965. For a liquor [2:12:12] license. Second, seconded by [2:12:15] Supervisor Kino. Discussion. [2:12:19] All those in favor? Aye. MADAM [2:12:24] Chair. Oh, supervisor Christy, [2:12:25] apparently you've closed the [2:12:28] hearing but did not state [2:12:29] approving the motion was to [2:12:33] approve them. So let me back up. [2:12:38] And we have to have a motion to. [2:12:39] She's just asking you to amend [2:12:41] the motion to close the public [2:12:43] hearing and approve. I will [2:12:44] amend the motion to close the [2:12:45] public hearing and approve the [2:12:50] motions. Second, seconded by [2:12:52] supervisor. All those in favor? [2:12:56] Aye. Opposed. Items passed four [2:13:00] zero. MADAM Chair. Yes. Could [2:13:06] we address items? 2021, 22, 23, [2:13:19] 24, 25, 26. 27, 28, 29 and 30. [2:13:23] Let's leave 28, 29 and 30 out [2:13:25] because those have to be [2:13:27] approved in a certain sequence. [2:13:30] Okay. I'll amend my motion to [2:13:33] remove 28, 29, and 30 and [2:13:37] approve 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, [2:13:41] 26 and 27. I'll second question [2:13:46] for the for the clerk on the [2:13:48] elections on. 20 through 24, [2:13:55] can we bundle those? Okay. Read [2:13:57] the resolution numbers for each [2:14:01] of them. Each time I bundle [2:14:05] anything around here. Famous [2:14:08] last words. Yeah. Okay. On item [2:14:10] 20. MADAM Chair, I'd like to [2:14:14] approve the resolution number [2:14:15] 2026 -- 46. Canceling the [2:14:17] election for the Green Valley [2:14:18] Domestic Water Improvement [2:14:22] District. Can I do it all at [2:14:28] once? I'd like to further. Move [2:14:32] to close resolution 2020 647 [2:14:34] and approve the canceling of [2:14:36] election of the Marana Water [2:14:37] Domestic Water Improvement [2:14:40] District. I'd like to move also [2:14:42] the. The move. I'd like to move [2:14:45] also the resolution number [2:14:47] 2026-48. Canceling the district [2:14:48] board members of the [2:14:50] Metropolitan Water Improvement [2:14:53] District. I'd like to move also [2:14:55] that we approve resolution [2:14:59] number 2026-49. Canceling the [2:15:00] election of district board [2:15:02] members for the Mount Lemon [2:15:03] domestic district. I'd like to [2:15:07] move that we close resolution [2:15:10] number 2026-50, canceling the [2:15:11] election of district board [2:15:13] members of the y Domestic Water [2:15:15] Improvement District. The [2:15:18] cancellation of of the [2:15:19] uncontested fire, water and [2:15:21] Health District elections [2:15:23] agenda item number 25. Do I [2:15:27] need to read that one? No. So [2:15:30] I'll move those items on the on [2:15:32] the Water Improvement District [2:15:43] and include 25, 26, 27. Second [2:15:45] seconded by supervisor Kino [2:15:47] discussion Chair supervisor. I [2:15:49] just want to make my point [2:15:50] again about how many jobs are [2:15:52] we creating with item number [2:15:54] seven? This is a $35 million [2:15:55] contract, and the taxpayers [2:15:57] should know how many jobs are [2:16:04] included in that contract. All [2:16:08] those in favor? Aye. Opposed. [2:16:14] Items pass five zero Chair. Yes. [2:16:16] Continuing with the this [2:16:19] bundling venture would like to [2:16:23] move on the addendum items six [2:16:27] and seven and also items nine, [2:16:36] ten, 11 and 12. Second. [2:16:37] Seconded by supervisor [2:16:40] o'Connell. Discussion. All [2:16:45] those in favor, I opposed items [2:16:52] pass five zero. MADAM Chair. [2:16:54] Yes, I'd like to approve. Make [2:16:57] a motion to approve the consent [2:16:59] calendar. Except for pulling [2:17:05] item number two. Second. [2:17:07] Discussion. All those in favor? [2:17:12] Aye. Opposed. Item passes. [2:17:15] Items pass five zero. Item [2:17:18] number two. I'll move. [2:17:19] Supervisor Kino. Yes, I'll move [2:17:22] the item second. Seconded by [2:17:24] Supervisor Hines. Discussion. [2:17:27] All those in favor? Aye, aye. [2:17:30] Opposed. Opposed. Item passes [2:17:48] for one. All right. I'm gonna. [2:17:51] And 16 and 17. I think those [2:17:54] are the last two. And then that [2:17:57] 28, 2930. The the Ajo, airport [2:17:59] improvements are there. Oh [2:18:00] right. And then there are a few [2:18:02] there too. Okay. So I'll take [2:18:05] up 16. This is a quick update [2:18:06] on the County administrator [2:18:08] hiring process. So this is [2:18:09] basically just a reminder of [2:18:11] some of the key dates that we [2:18:14] have pinned down or on [2:18:16] calendars. The recruitment main [2:18:18] remains open, and our recruiter [2:18:19] from Slavin Management [2:18:21] Consultants is continuing to [2:18:23] collect applicant information. [2:18:25] We have scheduled on SEPTEMBER [2:18:27] 22nd, an executive session. The [2:18:29] recruiter is going to provide [2:18:31] semifinalist report to the [2:18:33] board members. There can be up [2:18:35] to eight. We're thinking up to [2:18:38] eight semifinalists on [2:18:39] SEPTEMBER 30th. We have a [2:18:42] virtual in-person interviews of [2:18:43] semifinalists by the search [2:18:46] committee. OCTOBER 13th you [2:18:47] have on your calendars the [2:18:49] executive session. This would [2:18:51] be when the recruiter is going [2:18:53] to provide finalist report to [2:18:55] the board. And we're aiming for [2:18:57] having three finalists or up to [2:19:00] three finalists. And then [2:19:01] OCTOBER 14th, the finalists [2:19:04] will be announced and notified [2:19:06] of selection. And then OCTOBER [2:19:09] 19th and 20th would be a two [2:19:12] days in person with the [2:19:13] finalists. We're planning [2:19:15] events for the finalist [2:19:17] candidates over that two day [2:19:18] period to include some [2:19:19] interaction with the directors, [2:19:21] employees, community members. [2:19:23] And then on the 20th, we have [2:19:25] on our calendars an executive [2:19:26] session. It's a special meeting [2:19:29] from 1 to 6 or 1 to 5, and [2:19:31] that'll be finalist interviews [2:19:33] with the board. And then we [2:19:35] expect to make a decision as a [2:19:37] board on either OCTOBER 20th, [2:19:39] on the day in which we conduct [2:19:40] those interviews, the final [2:19:42] interviews, or it could be [2:19:45] OCTOBER 27th. So that's what [2:19:49] we've got ahead of us. All [2:19:51] right. Chair Allen? Yes. Rex [2:19:55] Scott could I request that the [2:19:57] clerk's office send those dates [2:20:01] to district offices? Sure. [2:20:08] Thank you. Moving on to 17. [2:20:11] This is protecting the public [2:20:16] trust resolution. County [2:20:17] Administrator would you like to [2:20:19] read? Sure. Thank you very much, [2:20:21] Chair and members of the board, [2:20:22] this is a resolution that we're [2:20:24] bringing forward to the board [2:20:26] to bottom line is protect the [2:20:27] public trust prohibiting County [2:20:29] employees from using any [2:20:30] nonpublic information for any [2:20:33] kind of profit, particularly [2:20:34] what we're seeing more and more [2:20:35] of these days, unfortunately, [2:20:37] is in the predictive markets [2:20:39] where people are betting on [2:20:40] anything these days. And what [2:20:42] people are starting to do at [2:20:44] all levels is make sure that we [2:20:46] are not only preventing any [2:20:47] conflict of interest, that [2:20:49] we're protecting confidential [2:20:51] information. We hope that this [2:20:53] is providing clear rules for [2:20:54] employees so people know that [2:20:57] path forward. We are hoping to [2:20:58] maintain that public confidence. [2:21:01] And then finally, looking at [2:21:03] this is consistent with what [2:21:04] other County cities in the [2:21:06] state are doing, as well as, I [2:21:07] believe, parts of the federal [2:21:09] government, just to ensure that [2:21:11] we don't have any lack of [2:21:13] clarity about what people can [2:21:16] and can't do with the nonpublic [2:21:17] information to which they might [2:21:22] be accessed. Thank you. I will [2:21:28] move the item second. Seconded [2:21:30] by Supervisor Hines. Any [2:21:34] further discussion? And all [2:21:36] those in favor of approving [2:21:41] resolution number 2026-45. I I, [2:21:46] I opposed item passes for zero. [2:21:52] Thank you. Moving on. We'll [2:21:57] take us to items at 28, 29 and [2:22:00] 30. 29 and 30 need to be [2:22:04] approved prior to 28. So we are [2:22:10] going to take up 29 and 30. So [2:22:14] 29 is the acceptance of a grant [2:22:15] from the Department of [2:22:19] Transportation faa for some [2:22:21] infrastructure improvements in [2:22:23] the Ajo, airport. I will move [2:22:25] the item seconded by Supervisor [2:22:28] Hines. Discussion. All those in [2:22:31] favor opposed item passes for [2:22:36] zero. Item 30 is. Similarly, [2:22:37] acceptance of a transportation [2:22:40] related grant faa Ajo, I will [2:22:41] move the item. Second, seconded [2:22:44] by Supervisor Hines. Discussion. [2:22:47] All those in favor? Aye. [2:22:51] Opposed. Item passes four zero. [2:22:57] Now to item 28. This is to [2:22:59] provide for again the Eric [2:23:00] Marcus Municipal Airport in [2:23:06] Ajo, For Quebec's court. I will [2:23:08] move the items seconded by [2:23:10] Supervisor Hines. Any [2:23:13] discussion? All those in favor? [2:23:17] Aye. Opposed. Item passes for [2:23:21] zero. And I will just note a. [2:23:23] Thanks to Anna Steiner. She is [2:23:26] the first manager of the Eric [2:23:28] Marcus Municipal Airport, which [2:23:30] is owned and operated by Pima [2:23:31] County for getting these grants [2:23:33] to revitalize the airport, [2:23:36] totaling more than $830,000. [2:23:38] And as she has noted, these [2:23:39] improvements not only increase [2:23:41] safety at the airport, but are [2:23:43] also part of Western Pima [2:23:45] County's economic development [2:23:47] plan that has been developed by [2:23:49] different entities out in that [2:23:51] area. So glad to see those come [2:23:52] in and be approved by my [2:23:56] colleagues. Moving on to what [2:23:58] is left of the addendum, we [2:24:01] have addendum item number two. [2:24:03] This is the 2027 legislative [2:24:05] agenda additions submitted by [2:24:09] district two. Yes. Thank you. [2:24:13] And for my colleagues request, [2:24:16] I put this in a memo two, not 3 [2:24:19] or 1 I said last time. But this [2:24:22] we've talked quite a bit about [2:24:25] Constable's the antiquated [2:24:27] system of the constabulary and [2:24:29] frankly, the, the, the jp [2:24:31] system as well. I've talked [2:24:33] about this so much with, with [2:24:34] Michael Rossi. I think even [2:24:36] back when I was a legislator, [2:24:39] even. And like, these are not [2:24:41] constitutional things. We the [2:24:43] counties I think Graham County [2:24:44] still doesn't have one. Sorry, [2:24:46] we out of them, but they still [2:24:47] do not have an elected [2:24:49] constable in Graham County for [2:24:51] 60 plus years. They just never [2:24:53] did it. But they're supposed to [2:24:55] according to statute, we would, [2:24:57] I think, benefit greatly. I [2:24:58] think each County needs to just [2:25:00] have the ability to make [2:25:01] decisions on their own. Do we [2:25:04] want one constable and one jp [2:25:06] per jp district? Do we want to [2:25:08] decide? Maybe we just want one [2:25:09] constable for the entire County [2:25:11] and we don't need any others, [2:25:12] and we're just going to hire a [2:25:14] bunch of deputy constables to [2:25:15] do things that have to be like [2:25:17] post certified unless our other [2:25:19] items work. So this first one [2:25:21] is basically just giving [2:25:23] counties like more flexibility, [2:25:25] whatever that is. If a shallow [2:25:27] becomes a MAY or however, [2:25:29] within the statutes that that [2:25:31] MR. Rossi and his team can [2:25:32] effectively make this happen. I [2:25:34] understand that a lot of [2:25:35] legislators look to themselves [2:25:38] as as constables in waiting or [2:25:40] in waiting for the retirement [2:25:42] benefits, which is just not a [2:25:44] great way to run a railroad. So [2:25:46] that is the first one. I'm [2:25:47] happy to hear everyone's [2:25:49] thoughts about that. And the [2:25:50] second just occurred to me, [2:25:51] since I just realized the first [2:25:53] time I ran for office was in [2:25:57] 2006. So 20 years ago, like we [2:25:59] were doing flood irrigation, [2:26:00] just about the same then as we [2:26:02] are now. And we're gonna we're [2:26:03] a few years away from losing [2:26:04] cap water, right? I mean, [2:26:06] that's pretty obvious. So let's [2:26:08] just kind of call this beta [2:26:10] spade. We and this to some [2:26:12] degree, this phase out of [2:26:14] agricultural flood, irrigation [2:26:16] and conversion of our of our ag [2:26:17] industry into more water [2:26:19] efficient irrigation systems. [2:26:20] This has been a known thing for [2:26:23] a long time, but making this a [2:26:24] priority, especially because [2:26:26] Pima County is going to be [2:26:27] really particularly screwed [2:26:29] without cap water eventually [2:26:31] here soon. I think it really [2:26:33] this needs to be on our list of [2:26:35] things to talk about. There is [2:26:36] a fund, I believe, federal [2:26:38] dollars. There's some funds [2:26:39] that are available to help. [2:26:41] This is a voluntary thing at [2:26:43] this point. We need this to [2:26:45] become a nope. This is going to [2:26:47] be phased out over three years, [2:26:49] four years, five years. The [2:26:51] technology's been around for [2:26:52] decades to change to a much [2:26:55] more efficient way to water. [2:26:57] 72% of our water is used in [2:26:58] Arizona for agricultural [2:27:00] purposes, which is fine, but [2:27:02] humans need a little bit too, [2:27:03] especially with a cap water [2:27:04] going away. So I think putting [2:27:06] this on paper and saying, hey, [2:27:08] we Pima County really need you [2:27:10] to help. The legislature needs [2:27:11] to start looking at some real [2:27:14] ways to do this, to do some [2:27:16] some more water conservation. [2:27:18] Oh, we could even add, if [2:27:19] people want, we could even say, [2:27:21] and let's make the upper basin [2:27:22] states have to do more [2:27:23] conservation like we do. But I [2:27:25] feel like, you know, this, this [2:27:27] is definitely an obvious thing [2:27:29] that we can do with our [2:27:30] agricultural industry that we [2:27:32] can do right now. And they've [2:27:33] already been discussing right [2:27:35] now. So I'd love to hear my [2:27:36] colleagues thoughts on either [2:27:41] of both of these. Benny, I am [2:27:43] curious what you know about the [2:27:44] discussions that that have been [2:27:47] going on about the second [2:27:49] agenda item around the phasing [2:27:51] out flood irrigation and [2:27:52] switching to more water [2:27:54] efficient systems. It according [2:27:55] to MR. Rossi, there again, [2:27:58] there are funds available for [2:28:01] for farmers who want to like, [2:28:02] like use those resources and [2:28:04] then kind of voluntarily go [2:28:07] into like a more targeted, much [2:28:09] more efficient form of [2:28:10] irrigation. There are two [2:28:11] different ones that would work [2:28:12] perfectly well for, for our [2:28:14] most of our uses in the state. [2:28:15] There has been a working group [2:28:18] for a number of years. So this [2:28:19] isn't just out of the blue, [2:28:21] like, what the heck is Pima [2:28:22] County? Even thinking? There's [2:28:24] there has been some work to [2:28:26] this effect, but hasn't gotten. [2:28:27] Well, maybe now with the cap [2:28:29] water changes, it will get more [2:28:30] legs, but it hasn't gotten to [2:28:32] the point where like, I mean, [2:28:33] I've not heard of any as a [2:28:35] legislator myself or recently, [2:28:37] I don't know, maybe my [2:28:38] colleague from District 5 would [2:28:39] know, but I don't know of [2:28:40] anything actually being [2:28:42] proposed like, like this, like [2:28:44] some sort of very realistic [2:28:45] thing we're going to have to [2:28:46] consider doing if we want to [2:28:47] continue watering humans, not [2:28:55] just plants. So. Supervisor [2:29:09] Cano. One second. All right. [2:29:12] Administrator Lesher, my hope [2:29:14] is that you are working with [2:29:16] MR. Rossi on kind of the [2:29:17] formatting of these [2:29:18] recommendations. When we [2:29:20] considered other [2:29:21] recommendations from district [2:29:23] two at our last meeting or the [2:29:24] meeting prior, what I was just [2:29:26] trying to explain is that I [2:29:27] believe that the the [2:29:28] recommendations that make most [2:29:29] sense to be added to the [2:29:30] legislative agenda are the [2:29:31] bolded words and the [2:29:32] recommendation, not the [2:29:34] discussion portion. Do you [2:29:35] remember that? And has that [2:29:37] been communicated and just. [2:29:39] Chair Supervisor Connor Yes, I [2:29:40] remember, yes. And I've been [2:29:41] working with MR. Rossi to make [2:29:43] sure that we are properly [2:29:44] formatting what the requests [2:29:46] are and how they go before csa [2:29:48] and how we then the ones that [2:29:49] don't necessarily go to csa, [2:29:51] but that are in our agenda for [2:29:52] our contract lobbyists and [2:29:55] staff to work on. Okay. Thank [2:29:57] you for that, because I [2:29:58] personally don't see any of [2:30:00] these two additions is [2:30:01] problematic. And Supervisor [2:30:04] Hines, just to ask, you, had [2:30:06] asked if there was any recent [2:30:09] work, something that I helped [2:30:11] negotiate with Governor Ducey [2:30:14] actually was a short term water [2:30:16] conservation grants for [2:30:17] municipalities, tribes, and [2:30:20] jurisdictions throughout our [2:30:21] state through the Water [2:30:22] Infrastructure Finance [2:30:23] Authority. And I would I would [2:30:27] really just that was a $150 [2:30:28] million investment. I think [2:30:29] that's probably how I would put [2:30:30] the tie between your [2:30:32] recommendation and what we need [2:30:33] to do. The legislature actually, [2:30:35] over the last three years, was [2:30:37] $1 billion fund for the big [2:30:38] water desal, and then it was [2:30:41] for the shorter term funds that [2:30:43] 150. What they've continued to [2:30:44] do at the legislature is raid [2:30:47] the big bucket and put it to [2:30:49] offset other state revenues or [2:30:50] other state expenditures, [2:30:53] rather, I should say, and not [2:30:55] fund the water conservation [2:30:56] programs. And I just kind of [2:30:59] feel like that's reverse in [2:31:01] reverse in terms of priorities. [2:31:02] But that's where we could [2:31:05] probably really align is using [2:31:08] our impact to be able to get [2:31:09] the short term water [2:31:12] conservation dollars funded. I [2:31:13] believe City of Tucson and the [2:31:15] County are recipients of that [2:31:17] fund for some of our water [2:31:22] saving measures. Thank you. Did [2:31:24] you move the item? Oh yes. I [2:31:26] will move the items as [2:31:32] presented in the memo. Seconded [2:31:35] by me. Vice Chair Allen. [2:31:39] Discussion. All those in favor? [2:31:42] Aye. Opposed. Item passes five [2:31:45] zero. Which takes us to [2:31:48] addendum item number three. [2:31:56] This is you. MR. Brown. Chair [2:31:57] supervisor Assistant Dean item [2:31:59] was connected to the executive [2:32:01] session, and I believe there's [2:32:04] a motion. There is. I will move [2:32:06] to join a lawsuit related to [2:32:09] the omb proposed rule. Second, [2:32:11] seconded by Supervisor Hines. [2:32:17] Any discussion? All those in [2:32:21] favor? Aye. Opposed. Opposed. [2:32:26] Motion passes for one. And then [2:32:28] let's see. Did we take up item [2:32:33] four in the bundle? No. Okay. [2:32:35] Four and five. Okay then. [2:32:39] Addendum item number four. I [2:32:42] will. Move to approve [2:32:46] resolution number 2026-51. [2:32:50] Second. Seconded by Supervisor [2:32:54] Hines. Discussion. All those in [2:32:57] favor? Aye. Opposed. Item [2:33:00] passes five zero. Item number [2:33:04] five. I will move to approve [2:33:07] resolution number 2026-52. [2:33:10] Second seconded by Supervisor [2:33:14] Hines. Discussion. All those in [2:33:18] favor? Aye. Opposed. Motion [2:33:22] passes five zero. Item number [2:33:24] six. I will move the item. [2:33:25] Second. Seconded by Supervisor [2:33:30] Hines. Discussion. Chair Allen. [2:33:32] Oh, did we bundle that bundle? [2:33:34] Okay, that was in the bundle. [2:33:37] It was okay. We're done then. [2:33:40] We're all done. Well all right,