1 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:39,880 Call to order. Everybody, even though the room is empty, we need to speak into the microphone. 2 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:41,900 Is that right, Jason? Yes. 3 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:49,440 Let's call to order the village council work session for August 4 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:56,100 11th, 2026. We'll be taking up three general business items and then we will move into a 5 00:02:56,100 --> 00:03:01,860 closed session pursuant to North Carolina's general statute. The first item will be 6 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:04,120 the given Memorial Library construction update. 7 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:07,440 So I'll turn it to you, Doug, since I do not see Carlton. 8 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,980 Yeah, we'll move through this pretty quickly. 9 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:15,540 This is how it's been progressing over time, 10 00:03:15,740 --> 00:03:18,520 and we got here the update for June, the picture. 11 00:03:20,140 --> 00:03:22,020 Just stop, I love these aerial photos, 12 00:03:22,140 --> 00:03:24,700 so I get, just give me a minute on that one. 13 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:29,200 That on the, I'm just trying to get my bearings here. 14 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:35,260 Okay, that green roof on the right is the hut next to the police station. 15 00:03:35,380 --> 00:03:36,900 Yeah, the building of grounds. 16 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,100 Yeah, building of grounds. 17 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Okay, now it's coming into sight. 18 00:03:40,740 --> 00:03:40,940 Okay. 19 00:03:41,660 --> 00:03:45,680 When you drive by, the back doesn't look as cleared out as it looks in this photo. 20 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:46,940 Yep. 21 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:47,900 Yeah, right. 22 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:53,340 You don't realize the parking lot area is, you know, as much as cleared out as overhead. 23 00:03:53,580 --> 00:03:53,760 Yeah. 24 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Okay. 25 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Thanks. 26 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,900 Thanks, anything to, 100% 100% looks like it's moving. 27 00:03:59,180 --> 00:04:03,000 Yeah, yeah, so in the past 30 days from when this was prepared, 28 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,740 so the backfill and the stone were put in, the sewer was put in, 29 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,360 the vapor barrier, and they installed the rebar. 30 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,420 So here's some pictures of that stuff. 31 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,180 Yeah, one day I drove by, I was like, why is it all blue? 32 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,980 But put the vapor barrier in. 33 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,300 So, some pictures of the construction. 34 00:04:26,980 --> 00:04:32,240 So the next 30 days they're going to begin the metal framing, which we can see that started. 35 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:32,940 Yeah, so today. 36 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:34,620 You can actually see stuff up. 37 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:41,300 And then the concrete walls and footings will be put in and the beams for the storefronts. 38 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,380 So that is what it looked like yesterday. 39 00:04:45,540 --> 00:04:45,720 Okay. 40 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,280 I looked about the same today when I drove by, huh? 41 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:51,980 It looks, we're going vertical here. 42 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:52,900 Yes, yes. 43 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:55,900 So, as far as you and Carl are concerned, 44 00:04:56,060 --> 00:04:57,740 we're on schedule and progressing. 45 00:04:58,920 --> 00:04:59,220 Okay. 46 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,700 Questions, that's all I have, so. 47 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,860 No, I appreciate the report like this, and. 48 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,600 Is there a, just a detailed construction plan 49 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,380 that suggests that we are on time plus or minus a couple of days. 50 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,720 Yeah, yeah, we are on time. 51 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,900 Yeah, so they're... 52 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:22,020 Good. 53 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,120 So far, Carlton has solved every issue that has come his way, so... 54 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Good. 55 00:05:28,460 --> 00:05:28,940 Great job. 56 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,920 Okay, that includes... 57 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,140 Unless someone has a question for Doug, that concludes item A. 58 00:05:35,620 --> 00:05:40,200 Item B is a review and discuss the 2026 business survey results 59 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,660 of which we were all participants in. 60 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:43,860 So go ahead, Doug. 61 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:45,720 Yeah, so a couple of things to note. 62 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,800 So this is the surveys that we actually received. 63 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:52,800 Either they were handwritten and we entered it in, 64 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,500 or they followed our links and submitted it. 65 00:05:56,780 --> 00:05:59,020 It does not include any information 66 00:05:59,510 --> 00:06:00,780 while you were just talking to people 67 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:02,400 if they didn't actually fill something out. 68 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,620 Obviously, we couldn't include that in the data. 69 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:14,860 But we only got, so 35 people opened the survey, and then only 22 said that they actually owned 70 00:06:14,860 --> 00:06:15,760 a business in the town. 71 00:06:16,380 --> 00:06:21,100 And then only about 10 answered the downtown specific questions. 72 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:21,720 So... 73 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,340 Doug, 35 opened it, but how many was it sent to? 74 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:30,440 I mean, we have a lot more. 75 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,560 I'd have to double-check. 76 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:32,620 I mean, there's a lot of... 77 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,800 I mean it was it sent to 70 people or more than that there's like 70 businesses downtown, but this went to all of them 78 00:06:40,340 --> 00:06:45,400 So okay, so I'm just trying to gauge your response rate. That's all we ever update that list 79 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:51,060 I mean, I would assume for closed businesses that type of thing. Okay, I have an old LLC. That's 80 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:53,680 Eight years old. Yeah. Yeah closed down for a long time. I still got a survey 81 00:06:54,540 --> 00:06:59,960 You got a business for it. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess we're not very good at cleaning them up 82 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:07,000 But it was that this year or was that I got this year's okay. Yeah, do we have space to incorporate any more if we get them? 83 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:11,680 If we get more feedback, yeah, we can just put it in but 84 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,820 so I guess what I was kind of 85 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,060 Leaning towards is like you went out and talked to all these people. So you probably have just as much 86 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,920 of a feel for 87 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:29,140 What people said and I was thinking the conversation might turn more towards what your feedback was a person rather than what this 88 00:07:29,140 --> 00:07:33,620 actually survey says because this is only ten people and you each talk to ten people 89 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,360 too, so you have as much feedback as this does. 90 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:40,780 Yeah, let's go through the survey, let's go through what you have and then we'll chime 91 00:07:40,780 --> 00:07:41,000 in. 92 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:48,560 Yeah, so what types of businesses responded, most of them restaurants, but then we had 93 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,120 retail and professional services as well. 94 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,500 I will go with a quick, slow me down if you want to. 95 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,460 The majority of them have been here more than ten years. 96 00:07:58,460 --> 00:08:00,480 That's very – I find that interesting. 97 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,760 But that's an indication we don't have too 98 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,540 much turnover to begin. When you drive down Chincaquinn, the most recent turnover was the 99 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:16,580 purple thistle. But otherwise, everything is very stationary. So I think it's, you 100 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:21,540 know, somewhat of a credit to our – wait, Pinehurst is set up and the type of businesses 101 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:23,320 we have down there. Interesting. 102 00:08:24,460 --> 00:08:29,740 So this is the number of employees that they have, so most are very small. 103 00:08:33,740 --> 00:08:34,760 Mostly their space. 104 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Only one actually owned the building and they responded, so that. 105 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,340 That is a fascinating thing. 106 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:45,140 It's not surprising, I don't think. 107 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,360 I wouldn't have guessed 20 out of 21. 108 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,200 That's what I wouldn't have guessed, but okay. 109 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,280 Not a lot of changes forecasted by any of these businesses. 110 00:09:03,290 --> 00:09:07,310 Most rated the business climate as pretty good. 111 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:10,130 That's better than I thought we would hear. 112 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:22,250 So yeah, this asks kind of like what their business atmosphere was like. 113 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:23,790 So most of them said it was about the same. 114 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:32,940 So when asked what the leading challenges were, parking. 115 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:36,600 It specifically says employee parking there. 116 00:09:36,940 --> 00:09:38,180 Yeah, employee parking, yeah. 117 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:44,200 I think it was both were mentioned. 118 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,580 Yes, that is true. 119 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,020 Customer traffic. 120 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,420 My understanding of that is like customers walking by, 121 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:53,620 customers coming into your store. 122 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,880 I'm surprised if you go back for a second. 123 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,280 and staffing didn't get a higher response. 124 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:06,560 Well, I think that the customer traffic 125 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:10,480 is consistent with the last residence survey we did 126 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,060 where 60% of the people said they never shop downtown. 127 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:14,080 Right. 128 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,540 And we just got the residence survey results last night. 129 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,900 I haven't, they haven't dove into it that much, but. 130 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:26,740 Will that be on September? 131 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,780 I don't remember what the responses were to that question. 132 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,340 Most of them said they were downtown but all the downtown questions really only 10 responded 133 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:41,760 to them. 134 00:10:43,620 --> 00:10:49,700 So downtown business climate, 8 out of 10 said it was good or excellent. 135 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,620 So here are the downtown conditions. 136 00:10:56,420 --> 00:11:00,200 So, there's a lot of information on this, so I'll leave it on here for a minute. 137 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:01,000 Yeah, please. 138 00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:04,970 Just a general question. 139 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:10,510 Given our efforts, was there an increase of surveys returned or same? 140 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:14,490 On the business side, less, yeah. 141 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:20,750 But you guys all went and talked to them, so a lot of those people may not have like 142 00:11:20,750 --> 00:11:23,790 submitted a survey because they felt like they gave you the feedback in person. 143 00:11:24,430 --> 00:11:31,510 But in my case, a number of the actual owners were on vacation and I left my business card 144 00:11:31,510 --> 00:11:34,490 with my cell phone and got zero calls back. 145 00:11:34,770 --> 00:11:38,370 So I'm actually thinking because I'm going to be a bachelor at the end of this week 146 00:11:38,810 --> 00:11:42,850 going back and knocking on some more doors to try to tune up some more responses. 147 00:11:43,330 --> 00:11:48,650 I repeatedly emailed all of my contacts and got zero return. 148 00:11:49,690 --> 00:11:53,630 I didn't email anybody. I went and tracked them down. 149 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:58,610 Well, I did both and had three basic good meetings. 150 00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:01,550 I had a lot of incorrect information. 151 00:12:02,410 --> 00:12:03,430 That's an issue. 152 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:06,930 I list specifically one building. 153 00:12:07,650 --> 00:12:09,110 The Maples building? 154 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:12,490 77 Cherokee. 155 00:12:12,990 --> 00:12:14,770 The one kind of behind the theater building? 156 00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:15,470 Yeah. 157 00:12:15,470 --> 00:12:19,510 Yeah, that one is a little bit out of sight out of mind. 158 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:22,330 No soliciting signs. 159 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:23,350 There was no one there. 160 00:12:23,570 --> 00:12:24,270 The door's locked. 161 00:12:24,610 --> 00:12:25,370 I mean, it was locked. 162 00:12:25,490 --> 00:12:34,630 I had the Village Chapel and the contact there was a reverend that I've never heard of. 163 00:12:35,870 --> 00:12:42,550 And when I went and met with reverends, Kester Ashley, who I know, and we went through 164 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:42,890 the survey. 165 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:43,570 He was fine. 166 00:12:43,570 --> 00:12:51,930 But I said, before you, or two preachers ago, was there a guy named Reverend, blah, blah, 167 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:52,090 blah? 168 00:12:52,270 --> 00:12:54,070 He says, I never heard of a guy. 169 00:12:54,490 --> 00:13:02,110 So there is a, there needs to be some way to clean it up a little more so it's not 170 00:13:02,110 --> 00:13:02,910 as outdated. 171 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:05,510 Because I didn't, I mean, that's a perfect example. 172 00:13:05,550 --> 00:13:10,130 Well, you can, they're not exactly great at responding to us, that's- 173 00:13:10,670 --> 00:13:16,450 Well, there was an email sent out or something on the website, our website, we need to update 174 00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:17,170 your information. 175 00:13:17,570 --> 00:13:20,850 I took that to Pinehurst Business Partners, too, and told them the same thing. 176 00:13:20,890 --> 00:13:21,510 Oh, good for you. 177 00:13:21,850 --> 00:13:21,970 Yeah. 178 00:13:22,610 --> 00:13:24,610 Well, I don't know if it did any good or not. 179 00:13:24,730 --> 00:13:26,810 We did get a few updates from it, so. 180 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:32,910 But this is very, you know, as you look at this, excellent traffic flow. 181 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:39,120 That's pretty interesting that you get an excellent on that topic. 182 00:13:41,610 --> 00:13:42,930 It's equal to poor. 183 00:13:44,670 --> 00:13:48,450 Landscaping, of course, is something we're very proud of. 184 00:13:49,070 --> 00:13:50,810 And it's demonstrated in that. 185 00:13:51,970 --> 00:13:55,290 And, okay, well, it's helpful to see. 186 00:13:55,470 --> 00:13:55,630 Yeah. 187 00:13:56,710 --> 00:14:00,250 And the biggest problem showing up on this is employee parking. 188 00:14:03,130 --> 00:14:03,650 Which... 189 00:14:03,650 --> 00:14:04,830 Now, let me ask you a question. 190 00:14:05,730 --> 00:14:09,890 Does that mean there aren't spaces in the sandlot? 191 00:14:09,890 --> 00:14:17,590 So, I have, I can, I used to look at it every single day via a camera and there was only 192 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:21,830 one day that it was full and that was because the Village Chapel had an event. 193 00:14:23,130 --> 00:14:27,390 But other than that, I have never seen it completely full and there were always spaces 194 00:14:27,390 --> 00:14:27,670 available. 195 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:31,850 So, what they're complaining about, I'm not exactly sure because, you know, within 196 00:14:31,850 --> 00:14:35,430 a three minute walk, you can park and get to the place. 197 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:44,550 I found a restaurant in particular a very popular restaurant who has a lot of employees 198 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:49,810 coming in at the same time in the late afternoon and that's when all of their customers are 199 00:14:49,810 --> 00:14:53,370 coming in too and they had a part of employee parking. 200 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:59,970 and sometimes they also have employees who work. 201 00:15:01,010 --> 00:15:07,670 Different shifts coming in at a time when there's something else going on. That's the kind of thing I think is the problem. 202 00:15:07,830 --> 00:15:13,830 Interesting to say, I'm looking at my notes from another restaurant downtown, popular one as well. Parking is way too little. 203 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:17,250 Please, building parking garage for my employees. That's interesting. Yeah, I just ran across it. 204 00:15:18,690 --> 00:15:21,350 We're trying to add five more spots right down there. 205 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:28,690 Also, I mean, the one by the Pinecrest Inn, I mean, that one's usually also available. 206 00:15:28,690 --> 00:15:35,810 Well, in the evening, that one actually gets a little more full, because Pinecrest in Patron's 207 00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:36,250 park there. 208 00:15:36,950 --> 00:15:37,430 Anyway. 209 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:38,370 Okay. 210 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:40,950 Yeah. 211 00:15:42,430 --> 00:15:45,310 So this is looking over history. 212 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:53,470 So yeah, for some reason, in 2024, Landscape More Appearance kind of took a little bit 213 00:15:53,470 --> 00:15:53,850 of a drop. 214 00:15:53,850 --> 00:16:05,480 Those are a little weird numbers there, but yeah, kind of a, so 9 out of 10 said landscaping 215 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:13,240 was good, cleanliness also good, sidewalk condition, walkability, kind of in line, maybe a little 216 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:19,100 better than past years, parking availability, those numbers are all over the place, so. 217 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:29,060 Okay, so most said the three-hour parking land event did not make it harder, but unfortunately 218 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:31,720 a lot of them said it didn't make an impact either, so. 219 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:32,880 But that's okay. 220 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:33,420 Yeah. 221 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,940 We didn't make it worse. 222 00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:36,240 Nothing made it worse. 223 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:39,060 I mean, about half of them said it improved. 224 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Okay. 225 00:16:43,540 --> 00:16:44,580 Satisfaction mixed. 226 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:45,240 Let's see. 227 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:45,860 Neutral. 228 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:46,620 Satisfy. 229 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:47,360 Yeah. 230 00:16:48,060 --> 00:16:48,320 Yeah. 231 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:48,900 Close call. 232 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:55,000 Well, seven out of ten, oh that's right, I don't count the neutrals, I didn't want to do that. 233 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:56,160 Yeah, so whatever. 234 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:01,100 This ETC, did the graphics? 235 00:17:01,780 --> 00:17:05,120 No, this was... 236 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:05,660 That's right. 237 00:17:06,580 --> 00:17:08,200 Artificial intelligence made these. 238 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,820 If you go back one slide, 239 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,040 the neutral, I would have left the rankings constant. 240 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,200 It's just, I don't need to have the bars increasing necessarily. 241 00:17:23,580 --> 00:17:23,580 Yeah, 242 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:28,460 yeah, yeah. 243 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:30,540 Downtown improvements. 244 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,640 Parking and marketing. 245 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:35,480 Okay, let's tackle their two issues. 246 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:43,660 What on the marketing side should we or could we do? 247 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Or what have we postponed doing or what have we thought about? 248 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,920 So, one of the things we talked about at our last business listening session was doing 249 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,380 August Friday. 250 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,960 So, we're actually doing that right now, and I meant to talk about it at the beginning 251 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,380 of the meeting. 252 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,620 So, Fridays, we're encouraging everyone to do sidewalk sales, put some of their merchandise 253 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:09,860 out on the sidewalk, kind of generate a little bit of energy, and then you can 254 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:13,260 get a ticket at the Welcome Center for a free cupcake. 255 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:19,920 And so last week, yeah, we had a few people come and get it and I guess we'll see the mayor there on Friday. 256 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:29,010 Is there an implication in that that maybe not because of the way the question was asked, 257 00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:37,730 but a comment that I have heard not infrequently is that they don't feel the resort supports them or markets for them. 258 00:18:38,090 --> 00:18:38,970 It beats against them. 259 00:18:38,970 --> 00:18:43,210 Well, if they try to capture every dollar they can't, they're a for-profit enterprise. 260 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:45,930 I mean, this is kind of how capitalism works. 261 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:55,170 I think the resort is helping them much more than it's ever hurting them because they bring 262 00:18:55,170 --> 00:19:00,810 a lot of people to visit, fine-hurst, and they just, one, they don't all play golf 263 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:02,990 because they come with spouses that might not. 264 00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:09,290 and I'm not saying it's justified I'm saying it's a comment that I hear not 265 00:19:09,290 --> 00:19:16,710 infrequently the only on the additional parking we have Larry at work and I think 266 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:20,190 I think he's made a difference whether people want to admit it or not I I 267 00:19:20,190 --> 00:19:28,550 certainly I think it was a smart move we've got on the runway the five 268 00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:35,430 additional spots down there and by the theater building and is there any place 269 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:40,550 else that we're adding a spot or not dug downtown do you know of anything where 270 00:19:40,550 --> 00:19:47,290 we're squeezing something in somewhere no I don't think so we did put up a sign 271 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:55,850 on the backside of the you know the trees by the library to get into oh 272 00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:59,810 Yeah, that says golf cart parking available. You can go park in the trees. So 273 00:20:01,190 --> 00:20:04,850 There we can do that. So that that's first golf park parking there 274 00:20:06,490 --> 00:20:12,150 Okay, yeah, and again, there always seems to be spaces available in the 275 00:20:13,910 --> 00:20:17,570 In the sand lot except for when there's events things like that, so 276 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:23,890 Okay, so this questions regarding downtown events 277 00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:30,810 Some somewhat beneficial, here's the feedback. 278 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Well, this is the trade off of, 279 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,120 I think in a lot of the folks' mind is that 280 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,260 the events are not downtown, some of them. 281 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,480 That's some that used to be, and now they're elsewhere. 282 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Yeah, live after five is the one. 283 00:20:49,820 --> 00:20:51,300 That's tough to overcome, yeah. 284 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,000 Yeah, here's my quote from the restaurant. 285 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:56,280 Food businesses hate that live at five 286 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,440 is in the arboretum. 287 00:20:58,460 --> 00:21:00,420 This person wanted to take the whole thing over, 288 00:21:00,420 --> 00:21:02,140 and I was like, well, I don't think we could do that. 289 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,560 But I don't know, is there any, 290 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,520 was there a question on here 291 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,720 about live at fives in general, or? 292 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,300 I mean, it was one of the special events listed. 293 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Oh, okay, so. Yeah. 294 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:15,420 Right here. 295 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:18,340 Any buildings? 296 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Okay. 297 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:22,340 I mean, also a little weird 298 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:23,680 because eats, beats, and brews 299 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,260 is essentially the exact same thing 300 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:26,380 as live after five now. 301 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,640 So I don't know why that's different. 302 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:29,800 Yeah, who knows, but. 303 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:34,230 A person may have been only one negative. 304 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:36,150 The 305 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:48,580 reason there's eight no impacts is because they're not down there anymore. 306 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:54,000 I'll give them an A for accuracy here. I believe that piece of data. 307 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,220 Yes, there is no impact. 308 00:21:56,940 --> 00:21:58,500 No, it's an interesting point. 309 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,720 At least they didn't. Well, once a negative. 310 00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:06,020 I don't know what is the downside for the one person 311 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:15,320 I mean people they don't like roads being closed they they think it makes it 312 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:36,000 more difficult to get to their actual brick-and-mortar business yes okay that's 313 00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:44,600 to the more interesting one which is on Filledge Place, right there, yeah, we're good to 314 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:50,120 move on. Yeah, street closures and parking are the, naturally. 315 00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:55,060 And street closures, the comment that I hear there is do we have to do it as early as we 316 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:59,380 do it? They're not opposed to doing it, they understand why, but can we start a little 317 00:22:59,380 --> 00:23:02,660 later? I don't know. Yeah, and that's been something we've 318 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:08,880 talked about and staff has consistently said, you know, we do it as late as we possibly 319 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,260 can. 320 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,740 So is that basically a personnel issue, the number of people it takes to put barriers 321 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:15,760 up and what have you? 322 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,840 And also, if there's cars that are within the barrier, you have to get the police 323 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,500 to come and get them out or you have to like kind of wait them out and that takes 324 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:24,260 a long time. 325 00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:27,660 We noticed that during the parade of nations there seemed to have been a lot more cars 326 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:31,020 than normal stuck inside once the parade happens. 327 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:34,600 It created a little bit of a dangerous situation because they were trying to leave right after. 328 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:43,260 Yes, so that specific is not our event and they specifically requested to not close down the roads. 329 00:23:43,580 --> 00:23:45,060 Then that's the result of why. 330 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Okay, alright. 331 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:53,870 Yeah, do they support additional downtown programming? 332 00:23:54,710 --> 00:24:00,290 It's one reason why we decided to do the movie at the park to try to address some of this. 333 00:24:02,970 --> 00:24:04,770 What's the date of that movie at the park? 334 00:24:04,770 --> 00:24:06,190 the 17th of September. 335 00:24:06,430 --> 00:24:07,650 Oh, Constitution Day, perfect. 336 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:10,870 Okay, we need to promote that a little on the website. 337 00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:14,530 Do we think we could do live music 338 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:16,850 on a smaller scale downtown? 339 00:24:17,610 --> 00:24:19,710 Yes, and that's something to talk to 340 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:21,310 Pioneers Business Partners about, 341 00:24:21,550 --> 00:24:23,710 it's like, if you want to, 342 00:24:24,290 --> 00:24:27,230 like if we have a stage or whatever, 343 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:30,630 like you could have someone just with a microphone 344 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:33,190 and a speaker and they can just sing 345 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:37,750 and have a little bit of live music, create some atmosphere, we're totally fine with that, 346 00:24:37,930 --> 00:24:41,890 but there hasn't been a whole lot of, like, yeah, go do that. 347 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:48,490 I hadn't thought about that, but I think a permanent stage might lend itself to more 348 00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:53,810 feeling of credibility and regularity of where to congregate. 349 00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:55,570 Agreed. 350 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:56,490 That's a plus. 351 00:24:57,050 --> 00:24:59,810 Obviously, it's a year away or so, but it's a plus. 352 00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:03,850 Yeah. 353 00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:09,110 Again, parking, question about what should we be looking at in the next five years. 354 00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:12,170 Parking is at the top of the list. 355 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:22,160 Oh, sorry. 356 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,840 You know, there's not a lot of empty storefronts. 357 00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:31,220 The only one I recall right now is the old 727 lounge. 358 00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:32,100 Yeah, it feels, yeah. 359 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,300 And it's there for a price. 360 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Yeah. 361 00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:41,840 Can you go back one, Doug, please? 362 00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:44,760 So public restrooms, they're right in there. 363 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,220 You know, if you want more people down there, we have to be able to accommodate the needs 364 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:49,300 of people down there. 365 00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:54,980 And I think at some point, not tonight, we need to give some thought to a self-cleaning 366 00:25:54,980 --> 00:26:00,500 standalone public rest facility somewhere on the Village Green, somewhere near the 367 00:26:01,420 --> 00:26:01,860 archives. 368 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,500 But not in the archives, we clarify that today. 369 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:13,440 And I agree with that not in the archives, but there are technologies that would allow us to do that do it in a clean and safe fashion 370 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,160 Anyway for another another time. I thought about that 371 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,960 We're gonna be moving the welcome center 372 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:22,500 Yeah 373 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,900 I'm wondering if we could put more restrooms in the theater building 374 00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:29,580 well 375 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,760 You know it's a private building 376 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:32,860 so 377 00:26:32,860 --> 00:26:36,520 So the landlord would want to do that. 378 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,500 So I don't know if you should go back to the old paid toilet days. 379 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,660 I don't see the owners not going to put in a restroom. 380 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:52,620 I have thought, I mean Kevin's idea might be great. 381 00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:57,260 I've also thought like if there were a small storefront somewhere 382 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,920 that we could just rent and have it as the public bathroom is for downtown 383 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,420 downtown, that might also work as well. Or maybe we reach out to the resort and say, 384 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:12,660 when you redo the casino building, make sure you have some public restrooms in there. 385 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:20,180 I mean, it's on the horizon, but I do agree with Kevin to the point of there's something 386 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:27,040 in a small footprint that possibly could be done without creating a large scale situation. 387 00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:34,700 And yeah, we just we need to keep it downtown find her is appropriate. I mean it's not going to be a Porta John out there 388 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Well to Kevin's point, you know 389 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:39,300 Vienna 390 00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:45,280 Self-cleaning toilet the thing they go back into the wall and come back out clean or they're just a big circle bowl 391 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,960 And they just clean themselves. I'm sure they're not cheap though. We can look at that 392 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,580 Yeah, so most are not all that familiar with Village Place 393 00:27:58,580 --> 00:28:02,180 Well, that's on our next month agenda, right? 394 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,600 Yeah. 395 00:28:03,460 --> 00:28:09,600 Most are obviously in alignment with that are unsure of what to think about a village place. 396 00:28:10,780 --> 00:28:20,480 And when they have concerns, it's about additional parking, retail competition, traffic, lots 397 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,840 of character. 398 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,520 All right. 399 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:30,440 Funny thing about retail competition I think if I've maintained for a long 400 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:38,180 time that I'm not sure we have enough enough physical square footage to create 401 00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:44,560 retail critical mass. If you compare to to Broad Street let's say in Southern 402 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,480 Pines they just have enough more space that you can go park one place and walk 403 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,380 up and down the street. Not unlike going through a big mall. No one parks next to every store 404 00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:58,200 they want in the mall. They park once and they walk up and down in the mall, but everything 405 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:04,120 is there. And I think it's a tough one for us to solve and almost bifurcating downtown 406 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:10,120 between village places. It doesn't make it better. It looks more like competition 407 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:17,500 rather than creating critical mass. I don't have an answer for that, but maybe the 408 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:22,280 The bias, as we think through it, is a little more residential-oriented and a little less 409 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,340 retail-oriented. 410 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:25,320 I don't know. 411 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,460 Yeah. 412 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,860 So this is, do you use village services? 413 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,820 So fire inspections, everyone has to have those, so they use that a lot. 414 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:44,300 But some of our other services aren't used a lot, which is pretty normal. 415 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:52,400 Reflective of a municipality's responsibilities. Yeah, my responsibility is public safety. And so what do they use widely? 416 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,300 fire inspections 417 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:56,840 police patrol in 418 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,300 public emergency response 419 00:29:58,980 --> 00:29:59,920 So this 420 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,660 Make sense. Yeah, yeah, it does. And I think maybe we're, I think we were doing a better job with our neighborhood patrols going through downtown more frequently, and I think that's beginning to be noticed, which is good. 421 00:30:15,670 --> 00:30:28,470 Yeah. Right, yeah, so this is satisfaction with village services. Again, again. Very small sample sizes. Small sample size, but it is. 422 00:30:34,150 --> 00:30:39,670 9-12 is satisfied with the village communication and the next one is they all want email. 423 00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:48,970 And let's see, most respondents view the village as very responsive. 424 00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:50,650 It's good news. 425 00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:58,900 So this is kind of like an overall takeaway. 426 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:04,980 way so parking is got mentioned a lot some events we need to do some more 427 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:10,200 communication on Village Place communication seems to be good and they 428 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:17,920 want us to maintain email yeah so I guess now what do we want to do differently 429 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,080 because of this and because of the feedback that you guys might have 430 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:28,740 received in person so I kind of throw that out there for discussion well 431 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:38,040 one on the Village Place subject we have some work to do because that's what we 432 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,200 were planning we're not rushing into anything so we're gonna have a meeting 433 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,580 in September we'll get a little more flavor for where we are and possibilities 434 00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:53,900 that exist so I consider that somewhat on schedule okay we'll just know more in 435 00:31:53,900 --> 00:32:07,420 month. On the parking, we can keep Larry at it, and we can add those five spots and see 436 00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:13,640 what happens. It may be just one of those perennial things. It doesn't matter what you do. 437 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,520 Someone 438 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,520 on events, 439 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:40,060 to me the big thing that sort of sticks with certain people is the move of 440 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:47,140 the live after five. That's the only thing that seems to have captured attention of downtown 441 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:52,280 business owners and it's understandable because there's a lot of people who are not hanging 442 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,440 out there after live after five. Yeah, for four nights, yeah, out of the year. I think 443 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,700 probably the best approach to deal with that is partner with the Pioneers Business Partners 444 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:08,340 on smaller events that we can do to activate downtown or activate the park. And whether 445 00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:14,400 that's a, someone suggested a poetry reading, I would probably not go to that, but if 446 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:22,620 But there is a smaller bands or movies in the park, things like that, or things we could 447 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:22,800 do. 448 00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:27,280 We'll see how September 17th works out, but that may be a good start of something where 449 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,880 we can find some other classic movies that will attract people around a certain event. 450 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,520 I did have a thought of something else that slipped my mind. 451 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Some other comments? 452 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,120 possibly we have it just an overall conversation about live at five at some 453 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,480 point in time a little separate than this I think that moving it from the 454 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:59,040 village to the arboretum possibly has displaced some of our current 455 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,420 citizens that maybe don't want to park and then walk the far way and I think 456 00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:07,560 it's maybe servicing a little bit of a broader community beyond pioneers I 457 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,820 just want to make sure that we have the opportunity for our citizens who 458 00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:13,020 You don't want to park and walk with their chairs. 459 00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:15,320 I know what my thought was. 460 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:24,700 Maybe what we can do, live after five events, is we can provide complimentary bus or trolley 461 00:34:24,700 --> 00:34:34,620 rides from the arboretum to the Village Green for an hour after it ends. 462 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:39,760 Yeah, and then that at least we had we'll have so people could actually park there 463 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,840 We could do it. We had going both ways one, you know 464 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,900 at five from five to six and another one from whatever it is eight to nine and 465 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:52,700 And that's it that way people can actually park their car downtown get on a 466 00:34:54,700 --> 00:34:56,120 Bus for lack of better phrase 467 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,020 Go up there listen to the music and eat and whatever and then get on a bus and come back to where their car is 468 00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:03,460 And maybe I'll hang out around downtown 469 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:12,880 Yeah, that's a possibility I think we have used the bus to shuttle people from like behind the fire station parking area to a little bit closer 470 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,820 I can ask if you know how popular that was or if we could redeploy that to drive between downtown or not 471 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:25,100 It's the only idea I could come up with to just try to get people to end their night 472 00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:32,560 Going downtown at downtown at one point time there was a brief conversation about partnering with southern pines as well as Aberdeen about creating 473 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,620 reading some sort of a bus loop or a trolley loop or something. I don't know if that probably 474 00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:45,740 never took off. We might have asked CVB to fund that. I think if I remember a couple 475 00:35:45,740 --> 00:35:50,040 years ago, and I don't know if that's an opportunity, but that could spur some downtown movement 476 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:58,160 as well. So I think Moore County has talked about doing transportation services, something 477 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,840 like that. 478 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:04,140 But I don't know how quickly they're moving in that direction. 479 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,040 Just spit balling things, they would move people around and also drop them off to like the mayor's point. 480 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,960 One actually piece of feedback that I received for downtown is kind of accent lighting. 481 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:19,120 It's pretty dark down there, especially in the winter. 482 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,000 Uplighting? 483 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:20,900 Yes, that. 484 00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:23,040 I've had that. I've had someone mention that to me. 485 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,960 I actually think it would make it really nice 486 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,040 So I got a talk to a couple of light vendors. It was like a hundred thousand dollars 487 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,500 I think maybe that might be something we could apply to that CBB grant 488 00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:41,100 To pay maybe we do you know do it in phases 489 00:36:42,260 --> 00:36:48,600 The other difficult part about that is we have a lot of like islands that would need the lighting and then you 490 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,940 to cut up the road and the road is fairly new pavement so maybe as the right 491 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:57,180 before we repave the road we can do something like that that's a real 492 00:36:57,180 --> 00:37:02,520 impediment to seniors when it's dark there with the irregular surfaces and 493 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,160 trying to navigate those yeah real impediment for them we can start where 494 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,220 it's easier right yeah see how first phase is anywhere we don't have to cut 495 00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:16,800 through a road to get to it and we we try it and then no maybe the next 496 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,080 face. 497 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,400 Alright, anything else on this? Nope. Alright. 498 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,220 And the few items we kicked 499 00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:35,500 around, Doug, where appropriate, you can put them on a future agenda. 500 00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:44,990 This is just 501 00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:50,070 a real quick, we met a few months ago, I can't remember when it was, maybe it was 502 00:37:50,070 --> 00:37:55,130 June, talked about communications, so got some good feedback from you, so 503 00:37:55,130 --> 00:38:03,270 a few things we're trying to do. One, tomorrow is our new relaunch of the monthly e-newsletter. 504 00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:09,270 So we're going to have a bunch of articles and information going out that applies to 505 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:15,910 everyone. I have a question. How many e-mail newsletter 506 00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:20,970 recipients do we have? Not whether they open it up. What's the size of our list? 507 00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:25,750 I would have to check it well. I think that's very important for us to the main one is it's pretty large 508 00:38:29,250 --> 00:38:35,400 It is opt-in so it is through constant contact, so opt-in and out whenever you want and 509 00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:39,450 On the website is the ability to opt-in 510 00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:42,030 But we will 511 00:38:42,910 --> 00:38:50,190 Send this to all NAC members as well NAC members can spread it as as they can and actually maybe 512 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:56,450 One of the things we should put on there is how do you sign up for this in case it just 513 00:38:56,450 --> 00:38:58,390 gets passed on through an email. 514 00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:05,710 The other thing Jeremy mentioned this is the kiosk, kind of using that a little bit more. 515 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:08,170 So we added a few things on that. 516 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:13,050 So like here is places to eat downtown and then we have another one that's like places 517 00:39:13,050 --> 00:39:16,910 you can shop downtown and another one that says go to the welcome center and find 518 00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:17,690 out all the information. 519 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:21,650 They're another logical place for another kiosk. 520 00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:31,990 That comment was filtered through from some of the merchants, directional. 521 00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:36,510 Well yeah, there was one that says you need a sign that says you are here. 522 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:40,450 There is a map on the back of the kiosk with the sign that says you are here. 523 00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:46,570 Does the kiosk have the ability to measure how many people go to it and ask questions? 524 00:39:48,490 --> 00:39:53,030 The kiosk is just a it's basically a poster board it's a billboard that but 525 00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:58,450 there's no because I don't have any idea how many people use it I mean it's like 526 00:39:58,450 --> 00:40:02,270 what I mean you can't use it you just look at I understand so I've been so it 527 00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:09,250 makes you wonder how reliable or how many people rely on it most people this 528 00:40:09,250 --> 00:40:14,790 is their kiosk I totally agree walking around town with this if the kiosk ever 529 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:20,790 needed significant repairs, expensive repairs, I think we should consider whether or not 530 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:22,110 it's valuable. 531 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:28,470 That's my question. I'm trying to get some metrics for some of this stuff because I just 532 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:30,510 don't know how to make an answer. 533 00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:42,230 And the other thing is, we mentioned if we could highlight, maybe make it easier for 534 00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:49,270 We have the website that highlights what happened, what it actually might mean to you as a regular 535 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:49,690 resident. 536 00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:50,950 It's been great, by the way. 537 00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:51,270 Yeah. 538 00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:52,130 I have a suggestion. 539 00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:54,170 We may already be doing it. 540 00:40:54,550 --> 00:41:01,990 But when we say the council passed resolution X, a resident ought to be able to link to 541 00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:05,650 that, so that – and maybe they do. 542 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:11,390 I didn't pay attention enough when I looked at it the other day because that helps 543 00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:18,270 actually go see what we did and rather than just hearing we did something 544 00:41:19,070 --> 00:41:21,750 they'll see that oh my gosh they're going to do this they're setting up an 545 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:24,210 advisory committee that's going to do this it's going to meet so many days a 546 00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:32,570 week and so on so that's my one generic suggestion for our highlights Doug the 547 00:41:32,570 --> 00:41:36,390 quality of the graphics the inviting nature of this I think it's a real 548 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:38,610 big step forward. So congrats. 549 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:47,090 Thank you. If you click in meeting highlights, it takes 550 00:41:47,090 --> 00:41:53,050 you to this link. It takes you to this link. Okay, so it doesn't take you to the video of 551 00:41:53,050 --> 00:41:59,590 the council meeting. No, it does not. I mean, that is, we have it here. You can get to 552 00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:05,650 it. A minute's available. Well, that's a plus. That's a plus. Yeah. Or the YouTube 553 00:42:05,650 --> 00:42:10,390 channel that's that's a plus okay I just trying to help these the residents who 554 00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:22,930 are curious for more information after we give them some tidbits that's really 555 00:42:22,930 --> 00:42:29,470 all they have on that comments folks all in the right direction with 556 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080 that 557 00:42:47,970 --> 00:42:49,670 we're 558 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:50,210 going to leave you. 559 00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:54,610 With that, we can go to a, we could go to a closed session if someone made a motion. 560 00:42:55,090 --> 00:43:03,470 I moved to enter the closed session pursuant to NCGS 143-318.11a6 to consider the qualifications, 561 00:43:03,930 --> 00:43:08,570 competence, performance, character, fitness, conditions of appointment, or conditions of 562 00:43:08,570 --> 00:43:12,250 initial employment of an individual public officer, employee, or prospective public 563 00:43:12,250 --> 00:43:17,450 officer or employee, or to hear or investigate a complaint, charge, or grievance by or against 564 00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:19,970 an individual public officer or employee. 565 00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:21,770 We have a motion. 566 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:22,370 Second. 567 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:23,070 In a second. 568 00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:24,510 All those in favor? 569 00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:25,070 Aye. 570 00:43:25,610 --> 00:43:25,970 Okay. 571 00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:27,530 We are in a closed session so. 572 00:43:28,090 --> 00:43:28,370 Yeah. 573 00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:29,090 Yeah, if you're...