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Good morning and welcome to the

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SEPTEMBER meeting of the local

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planning agency for Pinellas

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County, Florida. Today's public

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hearing by the local planning

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agency, or lpa, is being held

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to review proposed amendment. A

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proposed amendment to the

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Pinellas County Future Land Use

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Map and a proposed development

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agreement. The local planning

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agency is an independent

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advisory board charged with

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reviewing and making

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recommendation to the Pinellas

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County Board of County

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Commissioners on cases to be

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heard today. The Board of

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County Commissioners. Will make

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the final decision on each item

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at a separate public hearing

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currently scheduled to be held

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on OCTOBER the 27th, 2026 at 6

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P.M. The Board of County

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Commissioners will be. Meeting

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will be held at 333 Chestnut

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Street in the Palm Room. The

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procedure for today will be as

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follows. First, staff will make

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a brief presentation not to

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exceed 20 minutes. We'll then

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hear from the applicant who

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will present their case again,

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not to exceed 20 minutes. We'll

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then hear from proponents who

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will be given three minutes

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each, unless representing a

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group of five or more, in which

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case they will be given ten

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minutes. Non-speakers must be

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present and waive their time to

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get the ten minutes. We'll then

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hear from opponents who

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likewise will be given three

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minutes each, unless

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representing a group of five or

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more, in which case they will

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also be given ten minutes.

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present and waive their time to

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get the ten minutes. We'll then

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hear from the applicant, who

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will be given the opportunity

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to close, answer questions or

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respond to any concerns raised

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by the opponents or proponents

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for a period of time, not to

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exceed five minutes before your

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presentation, please give your

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name and address for the record.

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All testimony needs to be under

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oath, so if you have not been

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sworn in already and you plan

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to testify, please rise now and

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be sworn.

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>> Do you swear or affirm that

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the testimony is the truth, the

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whole truth, and nothing but

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the truth? Yes. Thank you very

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much.

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>> Also, please fill out the

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slip on the table and present

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it to the clerk before you

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speak. There will not be

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continuing rebuttal, so please

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try to present all information

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while you are here at the

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podium. If you plan to provide

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letters, written comments,

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studies or other documents in

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response to the Lpa's findings

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and recommendations, those must

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be received by the zoning

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section. Seven days prior to

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the Board of County

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Commissioners meeting, in order

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to be included in the record

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that will be transmitted to the

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Board of County Commissioners.

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So with that, we'll move into

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the agenda. And at this time

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we'll hear the quasi judicial

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statement.

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>> Thank you. Good morning,

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Assistant County Attorney Kirby

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Crider. The matters heard by

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the local planning agency are

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quasi judicial in nature.

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Please note that only competent,

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substantial, fact based

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testimony or evidence MAY be

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considered by the local

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planning agency deciding the

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matters before it. Pure

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speculation or opinion not

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based on competent. Excuse me.

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Pure speculation or opinion not

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based on competent facts.

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Supported evidence cannot be

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considered by the board. Lay

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testimony with fact based

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support, including but not

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limited to meeting minutes,

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surveys, engineering reports,

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etc. MAY be considered

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competent. Substantial evidence.

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Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Counsel Crider.

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Thank you. We'll now move to

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item three. Approval of the

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minutes for the AUGUST 12th,

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2026 lpa hearing. Do I have any

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comments on the minutes before

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I entertain a motion? All right.

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Seeing none, I'll entertain a

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motion on the minutes. So moved.

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Motion by Everett. Second.

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Second by Cataldo. All in favor,

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say aye. Aye. Opposed like sign.

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The motion passes unanimously.

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That brings us to item four. A

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1flu26-02. Staff. This is a

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companion case with dva 26-02.

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>> Yes, they're companion cases

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so they will be presented

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together. Heard together but

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separate votes.

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>> Okay. And will you need time

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for both cases or just time for

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one presentation.

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>> Just one presentation.

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>> All right. And is the

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applicant acceptable with that

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arrangement. And I'm getting a

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yes. Please proceed when you're

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ready.

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>> Thank you, MADAM Chair.

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Ladies and gentlemen, a local

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planning agency. I'm Scott

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Swearingen, I'm the county's

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long range planning manager.

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It's a pleasure to be here

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before you again this morning,

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and I appreciate your time. So

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I'll try to make this brief

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before you. The presentation.

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Two cases. It's a future land

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use map amendment. That's fl

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2602 followed by a development

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agreement dva 2602. And I would

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note and Michael, please

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correct me if I'm wrong, the

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development agreement. These

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are separate, separate voting

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items. But the development

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agreement would not be able to

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take effect unless the future

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Land Use Map amendment were

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approved.

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>> That's correct. Yes.

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>> Thank you. The subject

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property is approximately 4.82

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acres. It's located on the west

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side of us highway 19 North and

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unincorporated Clearwater. The

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current future land use

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designation is residential

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office retail for 4.16 acres

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for the majority of the

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property, and there's

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preservation land use on the

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property as well on 0.66 acres.

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And requested amendment is to

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change that land use from

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commercial to commercial

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general, which would cover 4.12

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acres, and then the remainder

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would remain as preservation,

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with a slight increase to 0.7

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acres. The zoning of the

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property is Commercial Parkway.

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However, there is no zoning

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change being proposed. Along

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with this. No zoning change,

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just the future Land Use map

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amendment and the development

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agreement. And that agreement

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includes certain building

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limitations and conservation

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easement. I'm going to get into

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that in just a second. The

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applicant is their expressed

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intent for the property is for

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a self-storage facility. The

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development agreement portion

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of this, you know, this package.

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So we have a you could sum it

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up with the following three

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restrictions. So the property

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shall not or shall be developed

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substantially in conformance

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with the non billable area,

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exhibit d to the development

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agreement. And I'll show you

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that in just a moment. So non

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buildable area this is the the

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non billable. It represents the

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non culverted section of Curlew

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Creek. Curlew Creek runs across

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the property kind of from the

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northwest to the southeast. So

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it's that non culverted portion

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which will remain preservation

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on a future land use map. And

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it generally includes a 25 foot

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wide setback or buffer if you

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will on either side from the

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top of the bank on both sides

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it's approximately 30% of the

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subject property. So that's

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what the Non-billable area that

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is referred to in exhibit d and

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those areas again depicted in

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exhibit d, and any additional

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areas mutually agreed upon by

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the developer and the county

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during site plan process will

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be placed under a conservation

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easement. So that would become,

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in effect, a conservation

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easement that would ride with

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the property. And then finally,

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the maximum impervious surface

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ratio is being capped by the

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development agreement at 0.7.

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This is an exhibit d to the

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development agreement. This is

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a binding exhibit to that

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agreement. This shows the non

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buildable area. I also want to

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include and this is a part of

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your packet as well. The

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applicant has prepared a

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concept plan. And again this is

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a conceptual level plan. It is

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non-binding. It's not a part of

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the development agreement. But

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they've they've submitted this

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to show kind of their intent

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for redevelopment of the

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property. So it gives you this

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kind of very kind of glossy

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overview of how you how they

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would envision that they could

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be able to, to develop that

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property from a site plan level

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showing the creek that goes

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through storage area to the

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west, more to the west of the

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property, near the residential,

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just on on the west side of the

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property and the development

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being pushed more toward us. 19

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and again, this is non binding

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with the application. It's on

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the west side of us 19 which

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you can make out there. And

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then Curlew Avenue which is

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fairly minor roadway. The

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surrounding character us 19 is

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mostly, you know, office strip

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commercial. You can see that

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mobile home parks right around

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there as well. And to note the

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mobile home park that is

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adjacent to the west side of

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the subject property. So the

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map on your left shows the

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current future land use map

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with the subject property

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designated as residential

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office, retail. And then the

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change would move on the right

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side of your map to commercial

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general, we do have a growing

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precedent, if you will, for

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Commercial General along the

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corridor. They are pretty

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similar in in in land use types.

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I'll go into that in just a

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moment. But you can see most of

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the corridor is residential,

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office, retail and then a

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residential categories. You can

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start to to come about as you

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move on either side of the

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corridor. And no zoning

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component to this case, but the

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property is zoned Commercial

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Parkway, as are the majority of

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properties along us 19 in this

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area. And then similar to the

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land use map, you can see in

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the zoning map some of the the

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more residential zone districts

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start to come about on either

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side of the corridor,

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residential medium, residential

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plan development, r-2, single

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family, those kinds of things.

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Give you some orientation of

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the property a little bit. So

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this is the subject property.

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It's looking north from Boy

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Scout Road. Boy Scout Road is

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at the south end of the

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property. So looking northward

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you can see you might be able

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to make out us 19 a little bit,

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kind of on the middle right

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side of the photo and then

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looking in the opposite

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direction. This is looking

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south along on the subject

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property. Us 19 is to the left,

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and this is the old, the former

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Hamburger Mary's property or

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building. This is looking

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northwest at the subject

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property. This is a vacant

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office building and is

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currently on site that is

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scheduled to be. The applicant

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has expressed that they would

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like to remove this building.

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And then finally this is on the

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subject property near the west

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boundary or border of the

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subject property looking

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obviously looking westward. And

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you can see you have the, you

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know, the fencing that's that's

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between the mobile home park

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and the subject property there

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at the far west side. The

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current land use designation.

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The designation allows a wide

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range of uses from residential

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office, personal service,

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office support, commercial

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service, retail. It also allows

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some light manufacturing and

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some research and development

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like research and development

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and verbatim, per our

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comprehensive plan, this

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category is generally

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appropriate in locations where

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it would serve as a transition

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from more intensive

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nonresidential uses or major

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roadways to residential, office

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or public semipublic uses.

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These areas are typically in

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close proximity to and served

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by the arterial roadway network.

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The density residential density

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that's permitted by this

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category is 24 dwelling units

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per acre, with a 0.5 far and a

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0.85 impervious surface ratio

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for nonresidential uses. That

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impervious surface impervious

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surface ratio is important as

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we get into understanding the

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limitations of the development

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agreement. So that is what is

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currently on the property today.

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And then that change to

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commercial general, mostly the

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same set of uses are permitted.

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However, Commercial general

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does permit storage warehouse,

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which is the reason why the

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applicant is seeking the change

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because they would like to

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redevelop the property with the

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self-storage facility that is

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not permitted under the ror. It

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is permitted under the

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commercial general and per our

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comp plan. This category is

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generally appropriate in areas

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of the County that are now

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developed or appropriate to be

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developed in a manner designed

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to provide the community or

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region with commercial goods

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and services, and in areas in

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proximity to and with good

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access to major transportation

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facilities. Similar to the r o

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category, 24 dwelling units per

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00:13:06,940 --> 00:13:08,263
acre are permitted a 0.5 5far,

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which is the same far. However,

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the impervious surface ratio

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gets bumped up to a 0.9 for

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nonresidential uses. Note that

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the development agreement that

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that is being included with

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this would cap that isr at 0.7,

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so it wouldn't be at the 0.85

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that it is currently today, nor

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would it go up to 0.9. It would

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be capped at 0.7. So we would

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have a lower impervious surface

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ratio on this property. And the

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preservation category that's

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really kind of along the Curlew

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Creek per our comp plan. These

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are areas determined to have

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environmental significance and

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recognized in the Pinellas

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County Comprehensive Plan, as

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you might as you might have

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garnered, including wetlands,

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25 year floodplains, natural

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drainage ways, habitat,

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endangered species, areas

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generally appropriate to areas

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00:14:01,349 --> 00:14:03,749
of major ecological functions

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00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:05,787
as 0.1 far and a 0.2 isr for

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nonresidential uses. So you can

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00:14:06,921 --> 00:14:09,570
imagine those are kind of like

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support facilities that MAY be

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necessary in those preservation

447
00:14:14,596 --> 00:14:15,930
areas. And then finally the

448
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current land use, which will be

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00:14:17,599 --> 00:14:18,666
continue to be land use as

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00:14:18,666 --> 00:14:19,734
proposed, is probably not the

451
00:14:19,734 --> 00:14:21,200
most accurate word there.

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00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,570
Commercial Parkway. It provides

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00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:23,872
for a wide range of commercial

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00:14:23,872 --> 00:14:25,273
and office uses, including

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00:14:25,273 --> 00:14:26,307
self-storage facilities. And it

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00:14:26,307 --> 00:14:26,942
also to note, allows

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residential in certain

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00:14:28,810 --> 00:14:30,511
circumstances should be

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conveniently located with

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access to arterial highways and

461
00:14:33,448 --> 00:14:35,448
transportation facilities,

462
00:14:35,583 --> 00:14:37,510
either directly or by service

463
00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:39,451
roads. The maximum building

464
00:14:39,687 --> 00:14:42,557
height is 75ft, but note that

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00:14:42,557 --> 00:14:45,293
it is limited to 45ft when 50ft

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00:14:45,293 --> 00:14:47,128
of residentially zoned property.

467
00:14:47,128 --> 00:14:50,728
And again, no zoning change is

468
00:14:53,568 --> 00:14:54,802
being proposed. Traffic impacts

469
00:14:54,802 --> 00:14:56,771
from a land use. And I always

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like to just this disclaimer

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this is like a 200 zero foot

472
00:15:01,843 --> 00:15:04,243
analysis of traffic, traffic,

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00:15:04,411 --> 00:15:06,214
and a more granular level would

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00:15:06,214 --> 00:15:07,648
be looked at during site plan

475
00:15:07,648 --> 00:15:10,518
review. But at least from this

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00:15:10,518 --> 00:15:11,952
level, the actual traffic

477
00:15:11,952 --> 00:15:14,352
volume could be slightly

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00:15:15,256 --> 00:15:17,250
reduced simply because the

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amount of the commercial

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00:15:18,392 --> 00:15:19,861
category with the change would

481
00:15:19,861 --> 00:15:21,362
be slightly reduced, but it's

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pretty much null as far as

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traffic impacts. I will note,

484
00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:26,801
however, that us 19, as many of

485
00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:28,570
you are probably very aware in

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this segment, as a level of

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service f with a vehicle to

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capacity ratio of 1.817. And

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for those of you who MAY travel

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this road, I'm sure you're very

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aware that it's currently under

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00:15:39,314 --> 00:15:40,948
construction and that future

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00:15:40,948 --> 00:15:42,550
cross section of this roadway

494
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and that future function, this

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00:15:43,651 --> 00:15:45,860
roadway, if you think of what

496
00:15:45,860 --> 00:15:47,622
you have south of Clearwater.

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So it's going to more of a a

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limited access highway as

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opposed to kind of a strip

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00:15:52,927 --> 00:15:54,280
commercial highway as it is

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00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,231
today. So that's going to be

502
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the ultimate that will be how

503
00:15:57,631 --> 00:15:59,133
us 19 will be ultimately and

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how that level of service

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00:16:01,236 --> 00:16:03,237
changes. I am not sure. But of

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00:16:03,237 --> 00:16:05,240
course we will see. With regard

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00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,307
to flood risk, this property is

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00:16:06,307 --> 00:16:07,909
neither within the coastal high

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00:16:07,909 --> 00:16:09,210
hazard area, the coastal storm

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00:16:09,210 --> 00:16:11,790
area. However, it does lie

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within the 100 year floodplain

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and partially within the 25

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year floodplain. In conclusion,

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staff supports the proposed

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amendments to the Future Land

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Use Map and the Associated

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Development Agreement. The Land

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Use Amendment does not

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significantly alter the uses

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00:16:29,330 --> 00:16:30,865
permitted or change the

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00:16:30,865 --> 00:16:32,865
potential impact from

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00:16:32,967 --> 00:16:35,135
development. The use categories

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00:16:35,135 --> 00:16:37,710
themselves are, are are pretty

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00:16:37,710 --> 00:16:38,373
similar, with the exception

525
00:16:38,373 --> 00:16:40,773
that the commercial general

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00:16:40,908 --> 00:16:42,376
would allow for the intended

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00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:43,478
use of the property by the

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00:16:43,478 --> 00:16:46,800
applicant, which is a self

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00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,181
storage facility included with

530
00:16:47,181 --> 00:16:49,181
the development agreement

531
00:16:49,517 --> 00:16:50,584
that's included what what it

532
00:16:50,584 --> 00:16:52,530
essentially does it better

533
00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:53,488
protects Curlew Creek and

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00:16:53,488 --> 00:16:54,622
reduces impacts in the

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00:16:54,622 --> 00:16:56,824
floodplain per the development

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00:16:56,824 --> 00:16:58,192
agreement, reduces the maximum

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00:16:58,192 --> 00:16:59,590
potential impervious surface

538
00:16:59,590 --> 00:17:00,600
allowed on site. We talked

539
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,600
about that. It would be

540
00:17:03,197 --> 00:17:04,966
actually lowered to 0.7, and it

541
00:17:04,966 --> 00:17:06,500
effectively pushes development

542
00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,901
away from the residential

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00:17:07,901 --> 00:17:11,138
dwellings on the west of the

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00:17:11,138 --> 00:17:14,138
property closer to us 19. And

545
00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:16,811
that happens in part by d,

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00:17:16,811 --> 00:17:18,579
which puts that kind of setback

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00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:20,447
buffer area creates that

548
00:17:20,447 --> 00:17:21,882
conservation area that's more

549
00:17:21,882 --> 00:17:23,317
toward the west side of the

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00:17:23,317 --> 00:17:24,552
property and effectively ends

551
00:17:24,552 --> 00:17:26,860
up making, you know, pushing

552
00:17:26,860 --> 00:17:27,622
that development to the east.

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00:17:27,622 --> 00:17:30,622
So further away from the

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residential as it exists today.

555
00:17:33,227 --> 00:17:34,996
One thing is that the amendment

556
00:17:34,996 --> 00:17:36,163
will it will allow cleanup of

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00:17:36,163 --> 00:17:37,164
the property and redevelopment

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00:17:37,164 --> 00:17:38,165
in line with the county's

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00:17:38,165 --> 00:17:39,166
development regulations in a

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00:17:39,166 --> 00:17:40,434
more appropriate manner. You

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00:17:40,434 --> 00:17:42,804
also saw the site photos that

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00:17:42,804 --> 00:17:44,500
we took of the subject property.

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00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:45,606
We found a proposal compatible

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00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:47,341
with the area's mixed use

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00:17:47,341 --> 00:17:48,942
character and consistent with

566
00:17:48,942 --> 00:17:50,311
our comprehensive plan, staff

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00:17:50,311 --> 00:17:51,411
recommends approval. The Board

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00:17:51,411 --> 00:17:53,811
of County Commissioners is

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scheduled to hear this item on

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OCTOBER 27th in their evening,

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6 P.M. Agenda. That is all I

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have in my presentation. I

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appreciate your time. I thank

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00:18:02,256 --> 00:18:03,390
you, and if you have any

575
00:18:03,390 --> 00:18:04,258
questions, I'd be happy to try

576
00:18:04,258 --> 00:18:05,426
and answer.

577
00:18:05,426 --> 00:18:06,327
>> All right. Board members,

578
00:18:06,327 --> 00:18:06,861
any questions for MR.

579
00:18:06,861 --> 00:18:08,396
Swearingen?

580
00:18:08,396 --> 00:18:08,729
>> Yes, I have a question.

581
00:18:08,729 --> 00:18:09,630
>> Yes, ma'am.

582
00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:11,198
>> Vice Chair.

583
00:18:11,198 --> 00:18:13,598
>> Good morning. Good morning.

584
00:18:13,734 --> 00:18:15,603
I was just wondering how that

585
00:18:15,603 --> 00:18:17,371
impervious surface area ratio

586
00:18:17,371 --> 00:18:19,206
did I get all that right, is

587
00:18:19,206 --> 00:18:21,376
going to be achieved? And where

588
00:18:21,376 --> 00:18:23,110
will the parking area be and

589
00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:24,879
what is the access from the

590
00:18:24,879 --> 00:18:26,879
highway.

591
00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:28,883
>> So access from us 19 would

592
00:18:28,883 --> 00:18:30,384
come, I believe, directly off

593
00:18:30,384 --> 00:18:31,852
us. 19 however, there is also a

594
00:18:31,852 --> 00:18:33,887
Boy Scout road that's adjacent

595
00:18:33,887 --> 00:18:37,458
to the south that could be used

596
00:18:37,458 --> 00:18:39,600
for access. We don't we don't

597
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,195
delve into that level of detail

598
00:18:41,195 --> 00:18:42,897
at the Land Use amendment phase.

599
00:18:42,897 --> 00:18:44,298
The development agreement

600
00:18:44,298 --> 00:18:45,766
speaks to that as a previous

601
00:18:45,766 --> 00:18:46,868
surface ratio. Now, however,

602
00:18:46,868 --> 00:18:48,302
they. However, they have to

603
00:18:48,302 --> 00:18:49,203
figure out their parking and

604
00:18:49,203 --> 00:18:50,938
loading and those kinds of

605
00:18:50,938 --> 00:18:52,106
things. And where that building

606
00:18:52,106 --> 00:18:54,108
goes, that's on them, but they

607
00:18:54,108 --> 00:18:55,909
are not allowed to have

608
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:58,440
impervious surface greater than

609
00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,446
70% of the subject property.

610
00:18:59,446 --> 00:19:00,681
Okay. Does that answer? I think

611
00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:01,315
you had a third question. Did

612
00:19:01,315 --> 00:19:02,750
you?

613
00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:04,384
>> No, you covered it. I think

614
00:19:04,384 --> 00:19:04,885
the parking, the access and the

615
00:19:04,885 --> 00:19:06,287
impervious ratio.

616
00:19:06,287 --> 00:19:08,122
>> Okay.

617
00:19:08,122 --> 00:19:09,356
>> That was pretty quick.

618
00:19:09,356 --> 00:19:12,360
>> Thank you. And I'll just add

619
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,363
for the access that us 19 is

620
00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:16,664
fdot roadway. So any access

621
00:19:16,664 --> 00:19:19,399
will have to get permitted

622
00:19:19,399 --> 00:19:21,101
through the dot. The road on

623
00:19:21,101 --> 00:19:23,204
the south boy Scout is is a

624
00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:25,473
county road, so it would be

625
00:19:25,473 --> 00:19:27,873
lesser designated roadway. We

626
00:19:28,342 --> 00:19:30,778
would allow access there, but

627
00:19:30,778 --> 00:19:31,912
then the permitting for any

628
00:19:31,912 --> 00:19:34,681
driveway access on us 19 would

629
00:19:34,681 --> 00:19:36,216
come from dot.

630
00:19:36,216 --> 00:19:39,420
>> And down the road when the

631
00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:41,550
when the us 19 construction is

632
00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:42,155
finished and it's probably

633
00:19:42,155 --> 00:19:45,155
going to become an overhead

634
00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:47,728
road with side roads.

635
00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:48,863
>> Yeah, yeah.

636
00:19:48,863 --> 00:19:50,731
>> Service road. That wouldn't

637
00:19:50,731 --> 00:19:51,865
be an issue any any longer for.

638
00:19:51,865 --> 00:19:53,133
>> The no. Usually when it's

639
00:19:53,133 --> 00:19:55,268
it's a service roads, it's

640
00:19:55,268 --> 00:19:56,670
easier to get a driveway access

641
00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,105
on those because you have lower

642
00:19:58,105 --> 00:19:59,606
speeds. Sure.

643
00:19:59,606 --> 00:20:00,708
>> Thank you.

644
00:20:00,708 --> 00:20:03,108
>> Board members. Any other

645
00:20:03,544 --> 00:20:05,646
questions for staff? No. All

646
00:20:05,646 --> 00:20:08,646
right. Thank you, MADAM Chair.

647
00:20:12,953 --> 00:20:14,688
Thank you. Please state your

648
00:20:14,688 --> 00:20:16,123
name and address for the record.

649
00:20:16,123 --> 00:20:17,891
>> Good morning. Kevin Reilly,

650
00:20:17,891 --> 00:20:20,127
401 East Jackson Street in

651
00:20:20,127 --> 00:20:21,227
Tampa. And I have been sworn. I

652
00:20:21,227 --> 00:20:22,730
appreciate all of your time

653
00:20:22,730 --> 00:20:24,365
this morning. I'll. I'll suck

654
00:20:24,365 --> 00:20:26,233
up for just a moment. I just

655
00:20:26,233 --> 00:20:27,334
finished a term on a board in

656
00:20:27,334 --> 00:20:28,502
Saint Petersburg and you know

657
00:20:28,502 --> 00:20:30,236
you're here for only item. So

658
00:20:30,236 --> 00:20:31,405
thank you for reviewing and

659
00:20:31,405 --> 00:20:33,574
being here because I know this

660
00:20:33,574 --> 00:20:34,608
is a volunteer position. Now,

661
00:20:34,608 --> 00:20:35,608
jumping into the actual

662
00:20:35,608 --> 00:20:36,610
application, I don't have a

663
00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:37,744
presentation because I just

664
00:20:37,744 --> 00:20:39,479
would have shown the same

665
00:20:39,479 --> 00:20:40,715
pictures that that staff showed.

666
00:20:40,715 --> 00:20:42,582
So I'm going to talk a little

667
00:20:42,582 --> 00:20:43,651
bit about some of the items

668
00:20:43,651 --> 00:20:44,818
that staff talked about and

669
00:20:44,818 --> 00:20:46,653
then answer any questions that

670
00:20:46,653 --> 00:20:47,688
you all we have our planner,

671
00:20:47,688 --> 00:20:48,788
the applicant and an engineer

672
00:20:48,788 --> 00:20:50,490
here, if you have specific

673
00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:51,592
questions, but I'll try and

674
00:20:51,592 --> 00:20:53,494
cover most of those as I

675
00:20:53,494 --> 00:20:55,280
discuss with you all. So again,

676
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,280
we're coming to the we're

677
00:20:58,298 --> 00:20:59,733
coming to the, the board today

678
00:20:59,733 --> 00:21:00,800
with with a use in mind, but

679
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,269
this application doesn't

680
00:21:02,269 --> 00:21:03,671
request a specific use. It's

681
00:21:03,671 --> 00:21:05,472
just that that's the, the

682
00:21:05,472 --> 00:21:06,706
impetus of the application. So

683
00:21:06,706 --> 00:21:08,309
it wouldn't technically limit

684
00:21:08,309 --> 00:21:10,844
to the self storage use, but

685
00:21:10,844 --> 00:21:12,279
that that is what is desired

686
00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:14,481
under the current development

687
00:21:14,481 --> 00:21:17,417
scheme. But what really brings

688
00:21:17,417 --> 00:21:19,486
us here is the isr and

689
00:21:19,486 --> 00:21:20,987
stormwater and floodplain

690
00:21:20,987 --> 00:21:22,423
limitations. So this site is

691
00:21:22,423 --> 00:21:23,556
the site was developed of

692
00:21:23,556 --> 00:21:25,259
course with the office building

693
00:21:25,259 --> 00:21:27,795
you all saw. And then there's a

694
00:21:27,795 --> 00:21:30,630
restaurant and parking. And so

695
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:31,264
the that was all built before

696
00:21:31,264 --> 00:21:32,833
the stormwater regulations. And

697
00:21:32,833 --> 00:21:34,601
the floodplain was as stringent

698
00:21:34,601 --> 00:21:35,436
as it is today. And so

699
00:21:35,436 --> 00:21:37,700
redeveloping the site is going

700
00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:38,171
to be more challenging because

701
00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:40,700
they'll need to be more

702
00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:41,442
floodplain compensation and

703
00:21:41,442 --> 00:21:42,642
they'll need to be less

704
00:21:42,642 --> 00:21:44,100
pavement, essentially. And so

705
00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:45,110
it makes that's why you're

706
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:46,446
essentially having three

707
00:21:46,446 --> 00:21:48,446
developments become one,

708
00:21:48,648 --> 00:21:50,784
because repeating the same

709
00:21:50,784 --> 00:21:52,185
development is impossible. And

710
00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:54,788
so the future land use change

711
00:21:54,788 --> 00:21:55,889
is sought to to add the use

712
00:21:55,889 --> 00:21:58,359
that we're interested in. But,

713
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,360
but honestly, the from a bigger

714
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:01,595
picture, our considers office

715
00:22:01,595 --> 00:22:03,290
uses. Well, there's office uses

716
00:22:03,290 --> 00:22:05,932
there and they're, they're not

717
00:22:05,932 --> 00:22:07,468
viable anymore. And as us 19

718
00:22:07,468 --> 00:22:08,802
becomes a limited access

719
00:22:08,802 --> 00:22:10,537
highway, those retail uses a

720
00:22:10,537 --> 00:22:11,772
strip retail is not going to be

721
00:22:11,772 --> 00:22:14,541
viable in the same way anymore.

722
00:22:14,541 --> 00:22:15,942
And so a warehouse or more

723
00:22:15,942 --> 00:22:17,778
commercial use, including self

724
00:22:17,778 --> 00:22:18,946
storage, we think is more

725
00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:20,347
appropriate for, for the site.

726
00:22:20,347 --> 00:22:22,516
And so that's the impetus of,

727
00:22:22,516 --> 00:22:24,618
of what's behind the

728
00:22:24,618 --> 00:22:26,786
application. Now how we achieve

729
00:22:26,786 --> 00:22:28,288
that. To the vice chair's

730
00:22:28,288 --> 00:22:29,356
question, there is essentially

731
00:22:29,356 --> 00:22:31,158
it's less development, right?

732
00:22:31,158 --> 00:22:31,992
There's, there's three areas of

733
00:22:31,992 --> 00:22:33,627
development that exist today,

734
00:22:33,627 --> 00:22:35,763
and it's going to ultimately

735
00:22:35,763 --> 00:22:38,763
become the, the one development

736
00:22:39,398 --> 00:22:40,834
because most of the it's I

737
00:22:40,834 --> 00:22:42,402
don't want to say exactly. So

738
00:22:42,402 --> 00:22:44,304
let's talk broadly. So almost

739
00:22:44,304 --> 00:22:46,607
the west half of the property

740
00:22:46,607 --> 00:22:48,740
is going to end up being either

741
00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:50,243
preservation as it exists today

742
00:22:50,243 --> 00:22:52,412
or floodplain compensation. So

743
00:22:52,412 --> 00:22:53,714
it will be much less pervious

744
00:22:53,714 --> 00:22:54,848
area. And the way that you

745
00:22:54,848 --> 00:22:57,384
achieve development is, is to

746
00:22:57,384 --> 00:22:59,185
go to go vertical. The proposal

747
00:22:59,185 --> 00:23:01,210
is for four stories, which is

748
00:23:01,210 --> 00:23:02,823
within the limitations of the

749
00:23:02,823 --> 00:23:04,257
code and the comprehensive plan.

750
00:23:04,257 --> 00:23:04,992
And they'll also be a

751
00:23:04,992 --> 00:23:06,794
significant buffer because the

752
00:23:06,794 --> 00:23:08,195
west half of the of the

753
00:23:08,195 --> 00:23:09,363
property is not going to be

754
00:23:09,363 --> 00:23:11,300
developed, because it'll have

755
00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:13,430
to meet those stormwater

756
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,769
requirements. And so and the

757
00:23:15,769 --> 00:23:17,904
other thing too, for

758
00:23:17,904 --> 00:23:19,772
transportation and for parking

759
00:23:19,772 --> 00:23:21,542
and those things, the use we're

760
00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:23,176
proposing is, is forgiving on

761
00:23:23,176 --> 00:23:24,178
those. It's not a big traffic

762
00:23:24,178 --> 00:23:25,478
generator and it doesn't

763
00:23:25,478 --> 00:23:26,413
require as much parking so

764
00:23:26,413 --> 00:23:28,182
uniquely would be okay. But if

765
00:23:28,182 --> 00:23:29,820
that was to change again,

766
00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:30,684
because this application

767
00:23:30,684 --> 00:23:32,552
doesn't tie us to a use, if

768
00:23:32,552 --> 00:23:33,653
that was to change, we'd still

769
00:23:33,653 --> 00:23:35,555
be limited on where we can

770
00:23:35,555 --> 00:23:36,590
develop. And so if a different

771
00:23:36,590 --> 00:23:37,758
use went in there, the

772
00:23:37,758 --> 00:23:39,860
development would be limited by

773
00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:42,829
where we can where we can put

774
00:23:42,829 --> 00:23:44,197
pervious development and what

775
00:23:44,197 --> 00:23:45,980
we could fit. And if it

776
00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:46,767
required more parking, you'd

777
00:23:46,767 --> 00:23:49,235
have less development so that

778
00:23:49,235 --> 00:23:50,303
that would all come later. As

779
00:23:50,303 --> 00:23:51,838
staff also noted, there's no

780
00:23:51,838 --> 00:23:54,241
change in zoning. So, you know,

781
00:23:54,241 --> 00:23:55,375
the zoning map has the same

782
00:23:55,375 --> 00:23:57,375
consistency and compatibility

783
00:23:58,978 --> 00:24:00,714
that it has today. And the, the

784
00:24:00,714 --> 00:24:01,815
staff talk about compatibility.

785
00:24:01,815 --> 00:24:02,782
And we have a letter in the

786
00:24:02,782 --> 00:24:03,850
record talking about the

787
00:24:03,850 --> 00:24:06,186
compatibility of this future

788
00:24:06,186 --> 00:24:06,853
land use category with the

789
00:24:06,853 --> 00:24:07,720
adjacent. There's some

790
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,256
precedent across the street,

791
00:24:09,256 --> 00:24:10,824
but more importantly, the uses

792
00:24:10,824 --> 00:24:13,360
are largely the same otherwise.

793
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,796
And so the compatibility is

794
00:24:15,796 --> 00:24:17,297
maintained. And as far as

795
00:24:17,297 --> 00:24:18,398
access goes, access isn't

796
00:24:18,398 --> 00:24:19,966
proposed to be changed. So

797
00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:21,335
there are access points there.

798
00:24:21,335 --> 00:24:23,436
And so there'll be an access

799
00:24:23,436 --> 00:24:25,205
off of 19 and then off of Boy

800
00:24:25,205 --> 00:24:27,390
Scout with that. We do have our

801
00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:27,808
team here. If there are more

802
00:24:27,808 --> 00:24:29,443
specific questions that I

803
00:24:29,443 --> 00:24:30,577
didn't cover from the questions

804
00:24:30,577 --> 00:24:31,745
you all asked before, we're

805
00:24:31,745 --> 00:24:33,914
happy to answer them, but

806
00:24:33,914 --> 00:24:34,715
otherwise we'll we request your

807
00:24:34,715 --> 00:24:36,715
consideration and approval.

808
00:24:36,782 --> 00:24:37,984
Thank you.

809
00:24:37,984 --> 00:24:40,384
>> Board members. Any questions

810
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,590
for the applicant? All right.

811
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:45,392
Seeing none, we will now hear

812
00:24:45,392 --> 00:24:46,993
from the public. Is there

813
00:24:46,993 --> 00:24:49,429
anybody in the room who wishes

814
00:24:49,429 --> 00:24:52,429
to speak in support of

815
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,536
applications flu26-02 or dva

816
00:24:56,536 --> 00:25:00,136
26-02. Seeing none in the room,

817
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:04,911
do we have any online. I'm

818
00:25:04,911 --> 00:25:06,113
going to take silence as a no.

819
00:25:06,113 --> 00:25:07,847
>> The last time we checked

820
00:25:07,847 --> 00:25:10,847
there was no one online.

821
00:25:11,651 --> 00:25:12,752
>> Okay. We'll now hear from

822
00:25:12,752 --> 00:25:14,654
opponents. Is there anyone in

823
00:25:14,654 --> 00:25:18,854
the room who wishes to speak in

824
00:25:19,558 --> 00:25:23,158
opposition to flu 26-02 or dva

825
00:25:24,631 --> 00:25:26,660
26-02? All right. Seeing none.

826
00:25:26,660 --> 00:25:28,000
And I'm going to assume there's

827
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,102
nobody online either comes back

828
00:25:29,102 --> 00:25:32,702
to the applicant. Do you have

829
00:25:34,674 --> 00:25:35,941
any closing remarks?

830
00:25:35,941 --> 00:25:37,743
>> No. I would just point out

831
00:25:37,743 --> 00:25:38,745
that the I didn't mention the

832
00:25:38,745 --> 00:25:40,113
development agreement in my

833
00:25:40,113 --> 00:25:40,914
short discussion. But the

834
00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:42,914
development agreement does

835
00:25:42,982 --> 00:25:44,500
limit development more. It's

836
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:46,186
more limiting than what is

837
00:25:46,186 --> 00:25:47,387
there today. But frankly, with

838
00:25:47,387 --> 00:25:48,387
floodplain compensation

839
00:25:48,387 --> 00:25:50,157
requirements, that's acceptable

840
00:25:50,157 --> 00:25:52,392
because I think a 0.7 F.A.R

841
00:25:52,392 --> 00:25:54,660
would be hard to achieve even

842
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:55,928
as it is, let alone the 0.5 or

843
00:25:55,928 --> 00:25:56,896
0.9. So we're comfortable with

844
00:25:56,896 --> 00:25:57,697
that limitation and we've

845
00:25:57,697 --> 00:25:59,697
agreed to that.

846
00:25:59,932 --> 00:26:02,932
>> Thank you all. Thank you.

847
00:26:03,203 --> 00:26:05,604
All right. Any final questions

848
00:26:05,604 --> 00:26:08,410
from the board for staff or the

849
00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:10,343
applicant? I have one question

850
00:26:10,343 --> 00:26:12,545
for staff. With the non

851
00:26:12,545 --> 00:26:15,548
buildable area on exhibit d, I

852
00:26:15,548 --> 00:26:16,950
see that there is the I'm just

853
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:20,860
going to say it's a smoke shop.

854
00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:22,486
But the commercial retail

855
00:26:23,323 --> 00:26:25,825
overlaps that is that a

856
00:26:25,825 --> 00:26:27,460
situation where if they're

857
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:29,610
going to redevelop the property,

858
00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:30,864
they didn't really address that

859
00:26:30,864 --> 00:26:33,320
in that corner and their high

860
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,500
level overview. But yeah, and

861
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:35,902
that just continues like a

862
00:26:35,902 --> 00:26:36,670
nonconforming use. Or will

863
00:26:36,670 --> 00:26:38,670
redeveloping the property

864
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:41,675
require that to be demolished?

865
00:26:41,675 --> 00:26:44,344
>> The proposal is to demolish

866
00:26:44,344 --> 00:26:45,978
the buildings they identified

867
00:26:45,978 --> 00:26:46,979
during our discussions with the

868
00:26:46,979 --> 00:26:48,514
applicant that the buildings

869
00:26:48,514 --> 00:26:51,384
are all, you know, obsolete.

870
00:26:51,384 --> 00:26:53,784
They've been vacant there.

871
00:26:55,210 --> 00:26:56,756
There is no plan to to use them.

872
00:26:56,756 --> 00:26:59,659
I can let the applicant speak

873
00:26:59,659 --> 00:27:00,760
further on that. But yeah, that

874
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,494
would.

875
00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:03,263
>> Just from.

876
00:27:03,263 --> 00:27:05,663
>> How it's redeveloped. Yeah.

877
00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:07,968
That would end up either being

878
00:27:07,968 --> 00:27:10,870
a non-conforming if it was to

879
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:13,740
stay the same use, okay, would

880
00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:15,374
be able to expand. Otherwise it

881
00:27:15,374 --> 00:27:15,675
would, it would have to be

882
00:27:15,675 --> 00:27:16,643
demolished.

883
00:27:16,643 --> 00:27:18,744
>> So they could take this

884
00:27:18,744 --> 00:27:20,913
through site plan and maintain

885
00:27:20,913 --> 00:27:22,916
that building as non-conforming.

886
00:27:22,916 --> 00:27:24,117
>> Yeah. As you can see the in

887
00:27:24,117 --> 00:27:27,200
the building in the back too,

888
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,855
as well. The it covers that a

889
00:27:28,855 --> 00:27:29,956
portion of that as well.

890
00:27:29,956 --> 00:27:32,356
>> Okay. Understood. Thank you

891
00:27:33,126 --> 00:27:35,761
for clarifying. All right. Any

892
00:27:35,761 --> 00:27:37,163
other questions for staff or

893
00:27:37,163 --> 00:27:40,163
the applicant. Seeing none it

894
00:27:41,670 --> 00:27:44,204
comes back to the board. Do we

895
00:27:44,204 --> 00:27:46,138
have any is it I'm willing to

896
00:27:46,138 --> 00:27:48,538
entertain a motion on

897
00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:50,810
application f Lu 26-02.

898
00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:53,679
>> I'll move to approve case

899
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:54,747
number f-2602.

900
00:27:54,747 --> 00:27:55,448
>> Motion by Oliver.

901
00:27:55,448 --> 00:27:56,850
>> Second.

902
00:27:56,850 --> 00:27:59,785
>> Second by Hamilton. All in

903
00:27:59,785 --> 00:28:02,622
favor, say I I. I opposed like

904
00:28:02,622 --> 00:28:04,157
sign. The motion passes. We'll

905
00:28:04,157 --> 00:28:07,757
now I will now entertain a

906
00:28:09,228 --> 00:28:11,628
motion on diva 26-02.

907
00:28:12,732 --> 00:28:13,132
>> I move approval of diva dash

908
00:28:13,132 --> 00:28:14,167
26-02.

909
00:28:14,167 --> 00:28:14,533
>> Motion by Hamilton.

910
00:28:14,533 --> 00:28:16,680
>> Second.

911
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,905
>> Second by Larry Johnson. All

912
00:28:18,905 --> 00:28:22,441
in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed

913
00:28:22,441 --> 00:28:25,441
like sign. The motion passes.

914
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,810
So. All right. That brings us

915
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:31,150
to the end of our cases. Staff,

916
00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:32,985
do you have any remarks for us

917
00:28:32,985 --> 00:28:34,985
before we adjourn.

918
00:28:35,121 --> 00:28:36,956
>> a couple of couple items to

919
00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:38,291
update on. I brought you before

920
00:28:38,291 --> 00:28:41,291
that. We're we're looking to

921
00:28:41,728 --> 00:28:43,729
switch over to a paper packets

922
00:28:43,729 --> 00:28:45,531
and going to tablets. We got

923
00:28:45,531 --> 00:28:48,368
approval. So we're in the

924
00:28:48,368 --> 00:28:50,335
process now of of acquiring the

925
00:28:50,335 --> 00:28:52,735
tablets. And hopefully we'll

926
00:28:52,738 --> 00:28:53,840
have those at your next meeting.

927
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,241
And speaking of your next

928
00:28:55,241 --> 00:28:57,760
meeting, we don't have any

929
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,444
items right now. So there

930
00:28:58,444 --> 00:29:00,713
probably will not be a meeting

931
00:29:00,713 --> 00:29:02,781
next month. So we would see you

932
00:29:02,781 --> 00:29:04,781
in NOVEMBER.

933
00:29:07,486 --> 00:29:09,886
>> Understood. So all right.

934
00:29:09,988 --> 00:29:13,259
Well I hope you all have a good

935
00:29:13,259 --> 00:29:14,326
OCTOBER if we don't see you.

936
00:29:14,326 --> 00:29:17,229
Definitely happy to serve as

937
00:29:17,229 --> 00:29:18,597
the citizens need us. With that,

938
00:29:18,597 --> 00:29:20,990
I'll entertain a motion to

939
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:21,534
adjourn. So moved. Motion by

940
00:29:21,534 --> 00:29:21,868
Larry Johnson.

941
00:29:21,868 --> 00:29:23,690
>> Second.

942
00:29:23,690 --> 00:29:24,804
>> Second by Hamilton. All in

943
00:29:24,804 --> 00:29:27,639
favor, say aye. Aye aye.

944
00:29:27,639 --> 00:29:30,639
Opposed like sign. The motion

945
00:29:35,214 --> 00:29:37,214
passes unanimously.

946
00:29:37,749 --> 00:29:39,485
>> You to Halloween? I can't

947
00:29:39,485 --> 00:29:40,000
even think about that yet.