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The County Board of

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Commissioners meeting. We are

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happy to have you tonight. I'll

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call our meeting to order and

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let's have roll call. Please.

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Okay. Thank you. If you would

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stand with me. Commissioner

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Brown's going to do an

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invocation, and then we're

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going to invite Kiley Ward up

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to lead us in the pledge.

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Dear heavenly Lord, thank you

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so much for this day. Thank you

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for gathering us into this room

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and all of Pitt County. Lord,

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we ask that you lay your hands

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on all of us, on our families,

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for any of us that have

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grievances or challenges or

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health issues. Lord, we ask

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that you we boldly ask that you

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take all of those away and

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replace those with joy. Your

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peace, and all of your wisdom.

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Lord, we love you. We give you

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your business tonight. Ask that

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we serve your people first. Uh,

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bless this evening. In your

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name we pray. Amen. Amen.

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Thank you. Commissioner Brown

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will invite Kiley Ward from

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Eden Griffin up to introduce

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herself and lead us in the

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pledge.

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Good evening, ladies and

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gentlemen. My name is Kiley

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Ward. I attend Aiden Girton

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High School as a junior with a

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4.1 GPA. I am currently a

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member into the Health Science

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Academy program. Thank you for

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having me this evening. At this

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time, would y'all please join

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me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America,

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and to the Republic for which

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it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for all. You may be

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seated. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.

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If she.

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I'll entertain a motion to

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approve the agenda. So move.

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Yeah. We got a motion and a

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second. Please vote. Okay.

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Thank you. Madam manager, we

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have any public addresses to

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the board?

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Yes. Mr. chairman, you have one

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person signed up to speak.

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Marianne Swinger. If the

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attorney would read the

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statement as she's coming

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forward.

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Thank you, madam manager. Pitt

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County welcomes all comments on

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matters of public concern. Each

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speaker will be allowed up to

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three minutes to speak. A total

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of 30 minutes is set aside for

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public addresses to the board.

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Please state your name and

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address prior to speaking.

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Good evening. I'm Marianne

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Swinger, I live at 3874

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Dunnigan Road in Greenville and

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I wanted to speak this evening

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about data centers and my

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concerns about these

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developments. Um, these

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operations are much, much

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bigger than the cryptocurrency

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operations of the past years

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and have impacts that affect,

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uh, a large area, not just the

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people who live next door. Um,

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they use a lot of energy. Um,

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some as much as Greenville

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Utilities delivers in a year.

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Um, and in some places,

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residents are paying more to

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accommodate these requirements.

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In addition, they require water

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for cooling and they can take

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water out of circulation and in

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some cases return it with

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pollutants, chemicals,

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antifreeze and such. They also

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are very noisy. They have fans

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that operate 24 over seven. And

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so, um, strong noise

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regulations are needed that

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recognize that there's a

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difference between continuous

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noise and one time short term

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noise. At present, North

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Carolina as a state does not

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have any regulations for data

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centers. Um, in addition, these

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operations have been free of

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sales and use tax in this

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state. Now, this spring, the

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legislature lifted that

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exemption on their utility

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bills. So they will start

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paying tax on their utility

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bills. But other business

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operations, construction costs,

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um, no sales and use tax. So

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for all these reasons, as

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planning is done for the

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Unified Development Ordinance,

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I believe that special

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attention should be paid to

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data centers. The large data

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centers that that can be

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introduced. Such challenges.

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And actually in North Carolina,

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there are more than a dozen

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counties and cities that have

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declared moratoria on allowing

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data centers in order to take

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time and ensure that their

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local regulations are adequate,

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so that if a data center comes

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and operates, it's without harm

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to the rest of the community.

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consider this in the future.

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ma'am. I appreciate

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you coming out tonight. Okay.

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We'll move on to public

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hearings. I'll invite Joan us

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up. We've got three public

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hearings this evening.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good

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evening. Um, members of the

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board and Madam Manager, we do

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have, uh, three different

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public hearings tonight, the

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first of which is, uh, a

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rezoning request by Jason Hardy

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to rezone 1.55 acres of his

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property. Parcel number 06093,

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which is located on the western

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side of black Simpson Road, um,

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south of this intersection with

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Spencer Loop Road. Road, uh,

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from rural agricultural to

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general commercial with the

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conditional district. Looking

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at the map, you'll see the, uh,

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site it's located just south

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of, uh, blackjack. Zooming in

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and looking at the existing

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land use in the area, uh,

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you'll see there are several

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churches which is outlined in

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blue. There are two convenience

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stores located in the heart of

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blackjack there. And then the,

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uh, residential is shown in

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gold with the agricultural

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shown in the green shaded area.

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Looking at the land use plan, shows this area

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as being agricultural. Um, with

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a little bit of open space

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toward the north of this, uh,

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image, as well as a commercial

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crossroads right there at

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blackjack. Uh, the agricultural

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designation includes prime

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farmlands, which are vital to

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the production, uh, of

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agriculture within the county.

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Activities include agriculture,

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forestry, uh, low density

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residential and commercial or

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institutional uses. Uh, these

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areas are, uh, found near

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strategic agricultural lands.

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agribusiness, forestry,

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limited, commercial single

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family properties, and

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occasional low density small

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scale, uh, residential

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subdivisions. Uh utilities. It

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rely on septic tanks and

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community water or private

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wells. There's limited sewer

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availability. The density is

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typically less than one

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dwelling unit per acre. Looking

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at the zoning map, uh, you'll

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see this area is, uh, rural,

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agricultural. With the

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exception of the two

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convenience stores, which are

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designated in red as commercial.

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Uh, the general commercial

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district is primarily intended

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to accommodate a wide range of

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retail service. Office limited,

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wholesale, moderate density

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multifamily residential uses,

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and areas that have access to

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major thoroughfares and the

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necessary utilities. Uh,

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tonight, this request is for a

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conditional district rezoning,

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which allows for the approval

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of a specific use, uh, with

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reasonable conditions, to

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assure the compatibility of

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that proposed use. And tonight,

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the request is for a barbershop.

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We have a site plan here. I'll

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run through that real quick.

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Uh, that boundary of the site

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is displayed in red with the

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existing structure shown in

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yellow. There's already a

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gravel lot for parking, and the

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septic system. Uh, staff finds

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that this is this request is

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consistent with the vision.

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Pitt County 2045, uh,

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comprehensive land use plan.

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The area requested for the

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rezoning is designated as

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agricultural on the future land

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use map, which allows for

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limited, uh, commercial uses

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and is directly south of the

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designated uh, commercial

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crossroads area. Additionally,

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the subject property is close

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in proximity to several

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non-residential uh land uses,

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including two churches, two

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country stores, and a volunteer

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fire department. Planning staff

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finds that this request is

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reasonable and in the best

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interest of the public. Uh,

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because of that designation,

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Planning Board reviewed this

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request at its June 1526

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meeting and voted eight oh, uh,

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to recommend approval of this

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request, stating that it was in

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compliance with the land use

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plan and reasonable. So the

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motions are to adopt the

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consistency statement. The

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reasonableness statement, which

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is included in your packet and

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approve the request based on

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the following conditions. No

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zoning compliance permit shall

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be issued until a site plan is

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prepared in accordance with the

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Zoning Ordinance and approved

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by the Planning Department. A

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landscaping plan is required

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showing a ten foot wide buffer

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yard, um, in compliance that's

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in compliance with the zoning

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ordinance. The required parking

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spaces, uh, access drives and

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loading areas, uh, shall be

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paved and maintained with

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either concrete or asphalt.

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Hours of operation that's being

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proposed is Monday through

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Friday, 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. and

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Saturday by appointment. A soil

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erosion and sedimentation

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control plan, uh, is required.

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The site must comply with, uh,

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the stormwater ordinance for

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Nutrient Control. And it must

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also comply with the emergency

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management requirements. They

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must, uh, obtain all necessary

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permits from building

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inspections as well as a

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driveway permit from NCDOT. So

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with that, Mister chair, I'll

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open or turn it back to you.

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Okay. Matt, you need to read

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your statement.

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I do not if you would just

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open.

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It, please. Okay. All right. I

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will open up the public

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hearing. Is there anybody that

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would like to speak in favor?

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Anybody that would like to

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speak in favor, anybody that

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would like to speak against? I

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will close the public hearing.

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What's the pleasure of the

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board. Mr. Chair? Yes.

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I'll make a motion.

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We approve. your request. Okay.

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Thank you. Have a motion on the

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second. Please vote.

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For all three here for one.

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Okay.

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Mr. chair, if we could have

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another motion for adopting the

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consistency and reasonableness

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of the approval.

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I'll make a motion.

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Okay. We have a motion. And a

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second. Let's vote on that one

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as well.

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Mr. chair, I'll make a motion

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to. We approve the request.

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Second.

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Okay. Got a motion on a second.

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You need that. Matt. So did

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that cover it with the with the

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first two.

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So I think the first motion was

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the approval motion, if I'm

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correct, I'm sorry. And then I

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believe then we adopted the

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reasonableness and consistency

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that's listed in the packet. So

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I think we're okay.

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And then we need to well we

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approve the request upfront

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okay.

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We're good. Yes. Okay great.

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Thank you. Thank you Jonas.

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We'll move on to number two to

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Stacy Eastwood. Rezoning

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request.

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Yes. So the next request is for

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Stacy Eastwood to amend the

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zoning on his property being

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parcel 88208. It is currently

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zoned general commercial with a

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conditional district rezoning

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on that um, which currently

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allows for the sales of golf

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carts, utility trailers, metal

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carports and barbecue cookers.

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Um, he's looking to amend this

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to also include RV and boat

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storage on the property. Again,

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the property is, uh, 2.88 acres

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and is located on the northern

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side of US two, 64 east east of

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its intersection with Opac.

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Tullis road. The subject

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property was previously resumed

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by the Board of Commissioners

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on December 1st of 2008, to

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allow for the sale of the golf

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cart utility trailers, metal

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carports and barbecue cookers.

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Looking at the map on your

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screen, you'll see where the

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site is located. It's located

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just to the east of Greenville.

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Um, pretty much between

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Greenville and pack told us

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along 264 East. Looking at the

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existing land use in the area,

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you'll see, uh, the site there

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in red, uh, to the south,

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you'll notice the gray area

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that is a mining operation that

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this board approved. There's

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actually two mines to the south

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of this property. And then up

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in the very top left hand

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corner, you'll see a sliver of

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red. That is a wedding venue

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that's being operated there on

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Tripp Farm, the envision Pitt

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County 2045 Future Land use map

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shows this area is, uh,

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agricultural. You'll notice to

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your left, uh, back towards

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Greenville. That is a

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commercial crossroads area

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that's been designated, uh, in

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close proximity. The

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agricultural, much like the one

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before, uh, is designated, uh,

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as prime farmlands that are

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vital to the agricultural

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production in the county.

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Activities include

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agricultural, forestry, low

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density residential,

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commercial, and institutional

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uses. These areas are located,

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uh, in agricultural lands

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throughout the county. Uh, on

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site septic systems and

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community water service. Uh is

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on site with limited uh sewer

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availability. The density is

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generally less than one

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dwelling unit per acre. Looking

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at the zoning map, you'll see

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again, this property is already

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zoned commercial with a

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conditional district on it. And

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then just to the south, the

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darker green is the rural

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agricultural area. For those

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two mines. The general

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commercial district is intended

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to accommodate a large range of

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retail service, limited,

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wholesale, moderate density

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multi-family uses in the areas

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uh have access to major

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thoroughfares and utilities to

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support such development.

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Again, uh, this is a

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conditional district rezoning

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which allows for the approval

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of a specific use in this case,

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00:17:16,434 --> 00:17:18,937
uh, he's looking to add the RV

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00:17:18,937 --> 00:17:20,138
and boat storage to the

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00:17:20,138 --> 00:17:24,075
existing, uh, uses. Wanted to

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point out that section, uh,

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eight of the zoning ordinance,

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uh, uh, has standards for

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oversized vehicle parking. Um,

451
00:17:36,321 --> 00:17:37,756
those standards are all

452
00:17:37,756 --> 00:17:39,257
oversized vehicles must be

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parked a minimum of 50ft from

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any adjoining residential

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residentially zoned property,

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and shall be a minimum of 100

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00:17:47,832 --> 00:17:49,434
foot from any residence,

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church, school or public

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institution. Uh, the entire

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00:17:53,305 --> 00:17:55,473
perimeter of the facility must

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be screened from the adjoining

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properties, with the buffer

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yard that complies with section

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ten of the ordinance. Security

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fencing at a minimum of six

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foot in height shall be

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provided along the perimeter

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and residential district. Uh,

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park vehicles shall not be, uh,

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00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:16,661
remaining idle or generate

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noise while parked. Uh that

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00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:20,332
disrupts activities of the

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adjacent uses. Between the

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hours of 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.,

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uh, parking spaces are not

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required to be paved, but shall

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be graded properly, drained,

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stabilized, and construction or

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constructed with all weather

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surface. Uh, to minimize the

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dust and erosion. There are

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some prohibited activities.

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Mary's gonna fix her phone in

484
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just a second.

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Sorry.

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It won't go on.

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Um, there are some prohibited

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activities, uh, in this section

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as well. Storage of keeping or

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accumulation of wreck. Scrapped

491
00:19:01,439 --> 00:19:03,408
or dismantled vehicles, um,

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machinery or equipment are not

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allowed. Uh, the storage or

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00:19:07,445 --> 00:19:09,047
accumulation of junk materials,

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00:19:09,047 --> 00:19:10,715
such as scrap metal, materials,

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debris, waste paper, rags,

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battery waste, or use building

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materials are not allowed. It

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also prohibits fuel cell fuel

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cells and automotive repair

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services. They have submitted a

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sketch plan, as you'll see

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here, outlining the area to be

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rezoned. Um, with the existing

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structures as a metal shop and

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a shelter on the property with

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an existing driveway. And then

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there showing the proposed

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vehicle parking in the blue.

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Pitt County planning staff

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finds that this request is

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consistent with the Pitt County

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2045 uh Comprehensive Land Use

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Plan. The area requested for

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this reason is designated as

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agricultural, which allows

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limited commercial uses. The

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property is currently zoned uh

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General Commercial, and they're

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just looking at adding those

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two, uh, new uses. Uh, for RV

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and boat storage. Planning

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staff also finds that is

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reasonable and in the public's

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interest, because the subject

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property is located within

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close proximity to several

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non-residential uses, as well

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as being located on a major

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thoroughfare, there's limited

531
00:20:33,665 --> 00:20:35,567
residential development, uh,

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directly adjacent to the site,

533
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and the proposed use will be

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screened from any residentially

535
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zoned properties. The Planning

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Board reviewed this rezoning

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request at its June 15th

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meeting and voted unanimously

539
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for approval. The request, um,

540
00:20:51,783 --> 00:20:54,452
and said it was consistent, uh,

541
00:20:54,452 --> 00:20:57,489
and reasonable. So with your

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three motions, the first one

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being adopt the consistency

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00:21:01,192 --> 00:21:03,194
statement stating that it is

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consistent with the 2045 land

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use plan. Um, adopt the

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reasonable, um, that the

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00:21:12,036 --> 00:21:13,505
request is reasonable in the

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00:21:13,505 --> 00:21:15,540
public's best interest, given

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00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:17,175
that it's, uh, in close

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00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:18,777
proximity to several other

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00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:21,646
nonresidential uses along US

553
00:21:21,646 --> 00:21:24,282
264 and it will be screened,

554
00:21:24,282 --> 00:21:25,717
uh, from the adjacent

555
00:21:25,717 --> 00:21:28,520
properties. And then third

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00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,722
motion will be to approve, uh,

557
00:21:30,722 --> 00:21:33,925
the request. Um, with the

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00:21:33,925 --> 00:21:36,094
following conditions to allow

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00:21:36,094 --> 00:21:40,298
boat and RV storage. Um, the

560
00:21:40,298 --> 00:21:42,801
previously approved uses the

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00:21:42,801 --> 00:21:44,502
sales of golf carts, utility

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00:21:44,502 --> 00:21:46,404
trailers, metal carports and

563
00:21:46,404 --> 00:21:48,673
barbecue cookers are still

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00:21:48,673 --> 00:21:50,141
permitted in accordance with

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00:21:50,141 --> 00:21:51,476
the previous action by this

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00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:55,847
board. On December 1st of 2008,

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uh, a zoning no zoning

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00:21:57,916 --> 00:21:59,083
compliance permit will be

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issued until a proper site plan

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00:22:01,052 --> 00:22:02,821
has been prepared. Uh,

571
00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,222
according to the ordinance and

572
00:22:04,222 --> 00:22:05,323
submitted for review and

573
00:22:05,323 --> 00:22:07,926
approval. A landscaping plan is

574
00:22:07,926 --> 00:22:09,828
required, uh, showing that ten

575
00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,931
foot wide buffer, um, in

576
00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:14,232
accordance with the in

577
00:22:14,232 --> 00:22:15,400
accordance with the zoning

578
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,235
ordinance, a soil erosion and

579
00:22:17,235 --> 00:22:18,736
sedimentation control plan

580
00:22:18,736 --> 00:22:20,605
prepared by an engineer must be

581
00:22:20,605 --> 00:22:24,375
submitted. Um, as well as a

582
00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:27,278
stormwater plan. Uh, if they

583
00:22:27,278 --> 00:22:28,580
disturb more than one half

584
00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:30,515
acre, uh, the site must also

585
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:31,683
comply with emergency

586
00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:33,084
management requirements for

587
00:22:33,084 --> 00:22:35,820
fire protection, as well as

588
00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:39,691
any, uh, necessary building

589
00:22:39,691 --> 00:22:41,459
permits and environmental

590
00:22:41,459 --> 00:22:42,794
health permits for the waste

591
00:22:42,794 --> 00:22:45,530
disposal. They must also, uh,

592
00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:46,998
obtain a commercial driveway

593
00:22:46,998 --> 00:22:50,368
permit from NCDOT. With that,

594
00:22:50,368 --> 00:22:51,503
I'll turn it back to you, Mr.

595
00:22:51,503 --> 00:22:51,903
Chairman.

596
00:22:51,903 --> 00:22:53,004
Hey. Thank you. Jonas, any

597
00:22:53,004 --> 00:22:54,072
questions for Jonas? I know

598
00:22:54,072 --> 00:22:56,575
that was a lot. Okay.

599
00:22:56,575 --> 00:22:58,209
How close is it to the city?

600
00:22:58,209 --> 00:23:02,880
It's in. How close is it to the

601
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,017
city line, or is it. It.

602
00:23:06,017 --> 00:23:10,021
Uh, it is fairly close. Uh, I

603
00:23:10,021 --> 00:23:11,556
think the Greenville itj

604
00:23:11,556 --> 00:23:13,958
extends out to the, um, ECU

605
00:23:13,958 --> 00:23:16,261
property. Uh, the north campus

606
00:23:16,261 --> 00:23:18,129
Carlson property is the extent

607
00:23:18,129 --> 00:23:19,531
and that's probably a mile to

608
00:23:19,531 --> 00:23:22,133
two miles east or west from

609
00:23:22,133 --> 00:23:25,136
this property.

610
00:23:25,136 --> 00:23:26,338
I was just curious.

611
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,405
For miles.

612
00:23:27,405 --> 00:23:28,707
Four miles.

613
00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:31,209
Oh, okay. Okay. Are we ready.

614
00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:33,244
For any other questions? All

615
00:23:33,244 --> 00:23:34,178
right. We'll open the public

616
00:23:34,178 --> 00:23:35,180
hearing. Yes. I'm sorry.

617
00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:36,648
Motion to approve all three.

618
00:23:36,648 --> 00:23:38,182
What? We got to open up the

619
00:23:38,182 --> 00:23:39,017
public hearing first.

620
00:23:39,017 --> 00:23:41,018
Commissioner. One second. We'll

621
00:23:41,018 --> 00:23:42,253
open up the public hearing.

622
00:23:42,253 --> 00:23:44,622
Anybody here to speak in favor?

623
00:23:44,622 --> 00:23:46,925
Anybody speak against? Okay,

624
00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:48,159
we'll close the public hearing.

625
00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:49,127
What's the pleasure to board.

626
00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:50,795
A motion to approve?

627
00:23:50,795 --> 00:23:51,663
Okay, second.

628
00:23:51,663 --> 00:23:52,931
Can we put all three of those

629
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:56,501
together? Um, yes. Matt.

630
00:23:56,501 --> 00:23:57,769
So technically, you can, if

631
00:23:57,769 --> 00:24:00,972
you're adopting, um, but. Yes,

632
00:24:00,972 --> 00:24:02,006
technically, you can put all

633
00:24:02,006 --> 00:24:02,974
three of them together as long

634
00:24:02,974 --> 00:24:04,375
as we have the reasonableness

635
00:24:04,375 --> 00:24:05,877
and consistency and you're

636
00:24:05,877 --> 00:24:07,211
adopting the reasons and

637
00:24:07,211 --> 00:24:09,080
consistency that is listed in

638
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,649
his presentation.

639
00:24:10,649 --> 00:24:12,984
Okay. So we have a motion to

640
00:24:12,984 --> 00:24:15,687
adopt all three motions.

641
00:24:15,687 --> 00:24:16,588
And a second.

642
00:24:16,588 --> 00:24:17,855
Okay. Got a motion on a second.

643
00:24:17,855 --> 00:24:23,494
Please vote. Okay. Thank you.

644
00:24:23,494 --> 00:24:24,596
We'll move on to the third one

645
00:24:24,596 --> 00:24:25,096
Jonas.

646
00:24:25,096 --> 00:24:27,231
All right. And last for me, uh,

647
00:24:27,231 --> 00:24:28,733
is the community development

648
00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:30,501
block grant, uh, River

649
00:24:30,501 --> 00:24:32,770
neighborhood revitalization,

650
00:24:32,770 --> 00:24:34,839
uh, public hearing. Uh, this is

651
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:35,974
the first of two public

652
00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,542
hearings, uh, together.

653
00:24:37,542 --> 00:24:39,811
Community input. Explain. We're

654
00:24:39,811 --> 00:24:41,112
going to explain the county's

655
00:24:41,112 --> 00:24:42,413
intent to submit a grant

656
00:24:42,413 --> 00:24:44,482
application, identify the

657
00:24:44,482 --> 00:24:46,184
eligibility, eligible

658
00:24:46,184 --> 00:24:47,619
activities, and receive

659
00:24:47,619 --> 00:24:49,854
comments from the community.

660
00:24:49,854 --> 00:24:52,156
Uh, regarding community

661
00:24:52,156 --> 00:24:53,558
development and housing needs

662
00:24:53,558 --> 00:24:56,194
within Pitt County. Uh, program

663
00:24:56,194 --> 00:24:57,996
overview. The uh Community

664
00:24:57,996 --> 00:24:59,530
Development Block Grant

665
00:24:59,530 --> 00:25:00,965
Neighborhood Revitalization

666
00:25:00,965 --> 00:25:02,533
Program is administered by the

667
00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:03,768
North Carolina Department of

668
00:25:03,768 --> 00:25:06,037
Commerce. This grant, uh, the

669
00:25:06,037 --> 00:25:09,941
maximum award is $950,000, and

670
00:25:09,941 --> 00:25:11,209
there is no local match

671
00:25:11,209 --> 00:25:13,645
required. It's 100% grant

672
00:25:13,645 --> 00:25:15,313
funded. The application

673
00:25:15,313 --> 00:25:17,682
deadline is October the 13th of

674
00:25:17,682 --> 00:25:19,684
this year, and the grant period

675
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:23,554
runs for 36 months. Eligible

676
00:25:23,554 --> 00:25:25,256
activities include housing,

677
00:25:25,256 --> 00:25:26,524
rehabilitation and

678
00:25:26,524 --> 00:25:28,893
reconstruction. Uh public

679
00:25:28,893 --> 00:25:30,528
infrastructure improvements

680
00:25:30,528 --> 00:25:31,963
such as streets, sidewalks and

681
00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:33,965
water and sewer, and public

682
00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:35,600
facilities such as shelters,

683
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,601
community centers and

684
00:25:36,601 --> 00:25:40,104
recreation centers. In order to

685
00:25:40,104 --> 00:25:41,806
qualify for this grant, it must

686
00:25:41,806 --> 00:25:43,408
meet one of three objectives.

687
00:25:43,408 --> 00:25:45,076
It must benefit low and

688
00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:46,944
moderate income persons.

689
00:25:46,944 --> 00:25:48,846
Prevent or eliminate slums or

690
00:25:48,846 --> 00:25:52,016
bright blight, or meet other

691
00:25:52,016 --> 00:25:53,851
urgent needs, uh, which are

692
00:25:53,851 --> 00:25:55,753
often storm or disaster

693
00:25:55,753 --> 00:25:58,890
related. Pitt County intends to

694
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:00,324
apply for the Community

695
00:26:00,324 --> 00:26:02,460
Development Block Grant, uh,

696
00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:03,728
funding to support the

697
00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:04,996
reconstruction of owner

698
00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,998
occupied homes for income

699
00:26:06,998 --> 00:26:09,300
qualified households located

700
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,903
throughout the county.

701
00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:15,006
Recipients. In order to, uh

702
00:26:15,006 --> 00:26:17,842
qualify must be low or moderate

703
00:26:17,842 --> 00:26:20,445
income. The homes must be owner

704
00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:22,780
occupied and the homes must be

705
00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:24,282
real property. They cannot be

706
00:26:24,282 --> 00:26:26,250
personal property, which you

707
00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:27,652
will find a lot of times with

708
00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:30,421
manufactured homes, staff

709
00:26:30,421 --> 00:26:33,124
recommends, uh, continue

710
00:26:33,124 --> 00:26:35,860
authorizing staff to continue

711
00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:37,462
preparing the Community

712
00:26:37,462 --> 00:26:38,963
Development Block grant

713
00:26:38,963 --> 00:26:40,665
neighborhood revitalization

714
00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:43,000
application. So with that,

715
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,302
Mister Chairman, we do have to

716
00:26:44,302 --> 00:26:45,770
open a public hearing to

717
00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,806
receive comment, uh, regarding

718
00:26:48,806 --> 00:26:49,574
this grant.

719
00:26:49,574 --> 00:26:50,608
Okay. Thank you. Jonas will

720
00:26:50,608 --> 00:26:52,076
open up the public hearing.

721
00:26:52,076 --> 00:26:53,644
Anyone that would like to speak

722
00:26:53,644 --> 00:26:56,614
in favor or against. Okay,

723
00:26:56,614 --> 00:26:57,682
we'll close the public hearing.

724
00:26:57,682 --> 00:26:58,816
What's the pleasure? Ward up.

725
00:26:58,816 --> 00:27:05,323
I'm sorry. Come on up. Please

726
00:27:05,323 --> 00:27:06,624
give us your name and address,

727
00:27:06,624 --> 00:27:08,059
sir.

728
00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:09,160
And, Mr. Chair, may I read the

729
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,295
statement? The way he's coming

730
00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:11,062
up here with this public

731
00:27:11,062 --> 00:27:12,163
hearing. Now, open County,

732
00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:13,931
welcome to all comments on the

733
00:27:13,931 --> 00:27:15,199
Community Development Block

734
00:27:15,199 --> 00:27:16,601
Grant. Please state your name,

735
00:27:16,601 --> 00:27:17,502
address in the name of any

736
00:27:17,502 --> 00:27:18,436
organization you may be

737
00:27:18,436 --> 00:27:19,771
representing. Each speaker will

738
00:27:19,771 --> 00:27:20,772
be allowed up to three minutes

739
00:27:20,772 --> 00:27:21,439
to speak.

740
00:27:21,439 --> 00:27:22,006
Okay.

741
00:27:22,006 --> 00:27:23,341
My comments are very brief. My

742
00:27:23,341 --> 00:27:25,176
name is Steven Whitestone. I

743
00:27:25,176 --> 00:27:27,445
live at 364 Vernon White Road

744
00:27:27,445 --> 00:27:29,080
in Winterville. I'm also the

745
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,516
secretary of the Mount Hermon

746
00:27:31,516 --> 00:27:33,084
Masonic Lodge. That's over in

747
00:27:33,084 --> 00:27:35,753
1109 West fifth Street in

748
00:27:35,753 --> 00:27:38,289
Greenville. And, uh, just

749
00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:40,158
making a comment, uh, I know a

750
00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:42,393
lot of the block grants focus,

751
00:27:42,393 --> 00:27:43,294
especially with all the

752
00:27:43,294 --> 00:27:44,762
revitalization since the two

753
00:27:44,762 --> 00:27:45,997
hurricanes, Matthew and

754
00:27:45,997 --> 00:27:48,199
Florence, have gone to

755
00:27:48,199 --> 00:27:50,434
redeveloping of housing. Uh,

756
00:27:50,434 --> 00:27:52,236
but very little has gone to

757
00:27:52,236 --> 00:27:54,639
resilience or other community

758
00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:55,840
activities or community

759
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,875
organizations. So I would like

760
00:27:57,875 --> 00:28:00,044
to make sure that that's

761
00:28:00,044 --> 00:28:01,679
considered in this particular

762
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:04,515
block grant application. Uh, we

763
00:28:04,515 --> 00:28:07,118
have suffered, um, a complete,

764
00:28:07,118 --> 00:28:08,820
almost complete, uh,

765
00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:10,888
devastation of our building,

766
00:28:10,888 --> 00:28:12,523
uh, on West Fifth Street. And

767
00:28:12,523 --> 00:28:13,891
we have been out of it for six

768
00:28:13,891 --> 00:28:15,659
years, hoping to see if there

769
00:28:15,659 --> 00:28:16,861
was some block grant money

770
00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:19,530
available or some kind of, um,

771
00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:21,566
recovery funds available for us

772
00:28:21,566 --> 00:28:23,334
to replace the roof, which is

773
00:28:23,334 --> 00:28:24,302
partially going out of the

774
00:28:24,302 --> 00:28:26,637
building. Um, and we're working

775
00:28:26,637 --> 00:28:28,072
towards that. So we would like

776
00:28:28,072 --> 00:28:29,373
to make sure that there is some

777
00:28:29,373 --> 00:28:32,009
money set aside for resilience.

778
00:28:32,009 --> 00:28:35,112
And these are non homeowner

779
00:28:35,112 --> 00:28:36,981
redevelopment money, but also

780
00:28:36,981 --> 00:28:37,715
for those community

781
00:28:37,715 --> 00:28:40,051
organizations. So that's my

782
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,319
comment. And hopefully that

783
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:43,020
will be included in this

784
00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:44,622
particular block grant

785
00:28:44,622 --> 00:28:45,490
application.

786
00:28:45,490 --> 00:28:46,557
Thank you. Thank you sir I

787
00:28:46,557 --> 00:28:48,292
appreciate you coming out.

788
00:28:48,292 --> 00:28:49,560
Anybody else that would like to

789
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,296
speak okay. We'll close the

790
00:28:52,296 --> 00:28:53,297
public hearing. What's the

791
00:28:53,297 --> 00:28:55,633
pleasure of the board.?

792
00:28:55,633 --> 00:28:56,901
A motion to approve.

793
00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:57,468
Second.

794
00:28:57,468 --> 00:28:58,836
I got a motion on a second.

795
00:28:58,836 --> 00:29:05,943
Please vote. Okay. Thank you.

796
00:29:05,943 --> 00:29:07,211
We'll move on to items for

797
00:29:07,211 --> 00:29:08,913
report. I'll invite, uh,

798
00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:09,914
Michael Hardy up for the

799
00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:12,817
financial report.

800
00:29:12,817 --> 00:29:16,053
Good evening to the board.

801
00:29:16,053 --> 00:29:17,488
Tonight in front of you have

802
00:29:17,488 --> 00:29:19,290
the July monthly report. It's

803
00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:21,893
currently at right at 8.33%.

804
00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:23,560
You'll see the general fund,

805
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,162
uh, is uniformly spread right

806
00:29:25,162 --> 00:29:27,732
at the 8.3. So it's at 8.5% in

807
00:29:27,732 --> 00:29:29,133
total spending. You see the

808
00:29:29,133 --> 00:29:32,603
solid waste is at 7%. The 1.377

809
00:29:32,603 --> 00:29:34,872
million, uh, take into account

810
00:29:34,872 --> 00:29:36,674
backing off some capital items.

811
00:29:36,674 --> 00:29:37,742
Um, they were in amount of

812
00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:39,810
578,000. You can see that

813
00:29:39,810 --> 00:29:41,712
operating, uh, will be our

814
00:29:41,712 --> 00:29:43,214
operating expenditures to be

815
00:29:43,214 --> 00:29:45,983
decreased along with EMS fund.

816
00:29:45,983 --> 00:29:50,454
Uh, 2.166 million, 14.6%. If

817
00:29:50,454 --> 00:29:51,555
you back off, we have right at

818
00:29:51,555 --> 00:29:54,759
979,000 and, uh, ambulances,

819
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:56,460
uh, towards those expenditures,

820
00:29:56,460 --> 00:29:57,662
you can see the operating is

821
00:29:57,662 --> 00:29:59,764
more in line with the revenues

822
00:29:59,764 --> 00:30:00,898
versus the expenditures for the

823
00:30:00,898 --> 00:30:02,700
EMS fund. Are there any

824
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,702
questions with this report?

825
00:30:04,702 --> 00:30:08,473
Any questions? Okay. I have a

826
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:12,176
motion to approve that. I hear

827
00:30:12,176 --> 00:30:14,078
a second motion and a second.

828
00:30:14,078 --> 00:30:19,150
Please vote. Thank you Michael.

829
00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:20,218
Thank you.

830
00:30:20,218 --> 00:30:21,552
I'll invite Russell Luck for

831
00:30:21,552 --> 00:30:28,092
the tax collection report. Good

832
00:30:28,092 --> 00:30:28,326
evening,

833
00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:29,727
Chairman Smith, commissioners

834
00:30:29,727 --> 00:30:31,395
manager Gallagher, this evening

835
00:30:31,395 --> 00:30:33,331
I present to you the July tax

836
00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:34,932
collection report. The fiscal

837
00:30:34,932 --> 00:30:36,500
year combined tax collection

838
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,836
rate through July 31st for real

839
00:30:38,836 --> 00:30:40,404
and personal property was

840
00:30:40,404 --> 00:30:43,741
5.90%. The combined rate one

841
00:30:43,741 --> 00:30:45,142
year ago for real and personal

842
00:30:45,142 --> 00:30:48,980
property was 9.19%. Um, July's

843
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:50,715
collection rate it was a little

844
00:30:50,715 --> 00:30:52,249
lower due to the tax bills

845
00:30:52,249 --> 00:30:53,718
being mailed out about a week

846
00:30:53,718 --> 00:30:55,019
later than what they typically

847
00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:57,154
would be. However, I do expect

848
00:30:57,154 --> 00:30:59,056
those percentages to catch back

849
00:30:59,056 --> 00:31:01,158
up by the end of this month.

850
00:31:01,158 --> 00:31:02,760
Uh, tax Pitt County Tax

851
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,861
Administration continues to

852
00:31:03,861 --> 00:31:05,963
pursue all outstanding taxes

853
00:31:05,963 --> 00:31:07,531
using the necessary remedies

854
00:31:07,531 --> 00:31:08,332
available through the North

855
00:31:08,332 --> 00:31:10,101
Carolina General Statutes. If

856
00:31:10,101 --> 00:31:11,135
there are any questions, I'm

857
00:31:11,135 --> 00:31:12,737
happy to answer them. If not,

858
00:31:12,737 --> 00:31:13,838
it's my recommendation to

859
00:31:13,838 --> 00:31:15,840
approve the July tax collection

860
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,609
report as presented.

861
00:31:18,609 --> 00:31:19,777
A motion and a second. Please

862
00:31:19,777 --> 00:31:22,780
vote. Thank you. Russell. Madam

863
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:24,648
manager, manager's report is

864
00:31:24,648 --> 00:31:25,083
next.

865
00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:26,283
Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

866
00:31:26,283 --> 00:31:27,618
Members of the board. Um, your

867
00:31:27,618 --> 00:31:29,020
next meeting is in this room at

868
00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:31,622
6 p.m., September 14th. And

869
00:31:31,622 --> 00:31:32,823
that is your only meeting for

870
00:31:32,823 --> 00:31:34,225
the month of September. We only

871
00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:36,327
meet once next month. Um,

872
00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:37,795
reminder for those attending

873
00:31:37,795 --> 00:31:39,463
the North Carolina Association

874
00:31:39,463 --> 00:31:40,765
of County Commissioners annual

875
00:31:40,765 --> 00:31:42,366
conference will be this

876
00:31:42,366 --> 00:31:43,768
Thursday through Saturday,

877
00:31:43,768 --> 00:31:45,569
August 20th to the 22nd in

878
00:31:45,569 --> 00:31:47,838
Durham, North Carolina. Also a

879
00:31:47,838 --> 00:31:50,374
reminder that on September 7th,

880
00:31:50,374 --> 00:31:51,675
um county offices will be

881
00:31:51,675 --> 00:31:53,277
closed in observance of Labor

882
00:31:53,277 --> 00:31:55,479
Day and then a save the date

883
00:31:55,479 --> 00:31:58,249
item for January 20th of 2027

884
00:31:58,249 --> 00:32:00,718
at 6 p.m.. Um, we are planning

885
00:32:00,718 --> 00:32:02,353
an ag Appreciation and

886
00:32:02,353 --> 00:32:03,954
awareness dinner through our

887
00:32:03,954 --> 00:32:05,723
Soil and Water office during

888
00:32:05,723 --> 00:32:07,491
your last um, commissioner

889
00:32:07,491 --> 00:32:08,592
comments, you also heard

890
00:32:08,592 --> 00:32:09,693
Commissioner Mary Perkins

891
00:32:09,693 --> 00:32:11,395
Williams, um, and Commissioner

892
00:32:11,395 --> 00:32:13,364
Weaver talk about some, um,

893
00:32:13,364 --> 00:32:15,533
products that they wanted to

894
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:17,935
make, uh, raise awareness for

895
00:32:17,935 --> 00:32:21,472
our farmers and ag participants

896
00:32:21,472 --> 00:32:24,275
and in particular, one product

897
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,844
that, um, was sponsored by a

898
00:32:26,844 --> 00:32:29,313
NATO partner nationwide that

899
00:32:29,313 --> 00:32:31,215
allows for legacy planning of

900
00:32:31,215 --> 00:32:33,117
farmland. Um, there are other

901
00:32:33,117 --> 00:32:34,885
companies who also provide that

902
00:32:34,885 --> 00:32:37,488
service. And so those companies

903
00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:39,824
would be invited to this ag

904
00:32:39,824 --> 00:32:41,158
appreciation and awareness

905
00:32:41,158 --> 00:32:42,760
dinner. We may invite them to

906
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,261
sponsor if they so wish to

907
00:32:44,261 --> 00:32:46,897
sponsor part of the event, um,

908
00:32:46,897 --> 00:32:48,365
and then provide an opportunity

909
00:32:48,365 --> 00:32:50,634
for them to share information,

910
00:32:50,634 --> 00:32:53,704
um, about, um, preserving

911
00:32:53,704 --> 00:32:55,573
farmland into the future. At

912
00:32:55,573 --> 00:32:58,175
that event, I also want to make

913
00:32:58,175 --> 00:32:59,576
the board aware. I know you've

914
00:32:59,576 --> 00:33:00,945
heard a lot of conversation

915
00:33:00,945 --> 00:33:04,048
about property tax concerns

916
00:33:04,048 --> 00:33:06,083
and, um, constitutional

917
00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:07,418
amendments and steps that the

918
00:33:07,418 --> 00:33:08,886
General Assembly is going to

919
00:33:08,886 --> 00:33:10,621
take moving forward as it

920
00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:12,490
relates to property taxes and

921
00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:15,059
county's authority to levy the

922
00:33:15,059 --> 00:33:17,094
same. And so our North Carolina

923
00:33:17,094 --> 00:33:18,095
Association of County

924
00:33:18,095 --> 00:33:19,730
Commissioners are lobbying,

925
00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:21,365
organization, advocacy

926
00:33:21,365 --> 00:33:23,234
organization, has prepared a

927
00:33:23,234 --> 00:33:25,703
committee of 16 members for

928
00:33:25,703 --> 00:33:27,505
county managers, for tax

929
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:29,473
administrators, for chief

930
00:33:29,473 --> 00:33:31,008
financial officers, and for

931
00:33:31,008 --> 00:33:32,810
county commissioners. Almost

932
00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:34,245
similar, if you recall, during

933
00:33:34,245 --> 00:33:35,713
the opioid settlement, they had

934
00:33:35,713 --> 00:33:38,015
the 555 committee, which was

935
00:33:38,015 --> 00:33:39,483
five attorneys, five managers

936
00:33:39,483 --> 00:33:41,051
and five commissioners. I just

937
00:33:41,051 --> 00:33:44,121
wanted to let you know that committee has been set up

938
00:33:44,121 --> 00:33:45,856
of the selected four managers

939
00:33:45,856 --> 00:33:47,258
from across the state to serve

940
00:33:47,258 --> 00:33:48,392
on that committee, and they

941
00:33:48,392 --> 00:33:50,194
asked that I participate. And

942
00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:53,497
so I'll be part of that. 4444

943
00:33:53,497 --> 00:33:55,366
committee. We will meet on

944
00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:58,002
Wednesdays, um, almost weekly

945
00:33:58,002 --> 00:33:59,503
until we reach a final

946
00:33:59,503 --> 00:34:01,238
presentation that will be made

947
00:34:01,238 --> 00:34:03,674
to the board of directors in

948
00:34:03,674 --> 00:34:05,376
October. And then the work of

949
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:07,344
that committee will end. Um, so

950
00:34:07,344 --> 00:34:11,081
I wanted to let you know that will happen, and that I am

951
00:34:11,081 --> 00:34:13,517
glad to participate on it. Um,

952
00:34:13,517 --> 00:34:15,319
also from our North Carolina

953
00:34:15,319 --> 00:34:16,287
Association of County

954
00:34:16,287 --> 00:34:18,522
Commissioners, the director,

955
00:34:18,522 --> 00:34:20,457
Kevin Leonard, had prepared a

956
00:34:20,457 --> 00:34:22,893
very short video that I'd like

957
00:34:22,893 --> 00:34:25,062
to play for you now, um, making

958
00:34:25,062 --> 00:34:27,331
a legislative request regarding

959
00:34:27,331 --> 00:34:30,034
Snap benefits, if the Public

960
00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:31,302
Information Office would play

961
00:34:31,302 --> 00:34:31,969
that video.

962
00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:33,170
Hey, commissioners, let's talk

963
00:34:33,170 --> 00:34:35,739
about Snap. So right now

964
00:34:35,739 --> 00:34:37,274
Congress is finishing up their

965
00:34:37,274 --> 00:34:38,475
work before their summer

966
00:34:38,475 --> 00:34:39,543
recess. And if you haven't

967
00:34:39,543 --> 00:34:41,011
scheduled an appointment with

968
00:34:41,011 --> 00:34:42,279
your senator or your House

969
00:34:42,279 --> 00:34:43,847
member, be a great time to do

970
00:34:43,847 --> 00:34:45,983
that. And I would ask you to

971
00:34:45,983 --> 00:34:49,119
talk to them about snap. So in

972
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,455
short, snap means Supplemental

973
00:34:51,455 --> 00:34:53,524
Nutrition Assistance programs

974
00:34:53,524 --> 00:34:55,359
and simply does two things.

975
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,995
One, it helps people who need

976
00:34:57,995 --> 00:35:00,364
food assistance, and two, it

977
00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:01,732
helps American farmers and

978
00:35:01,732 --> 00:35:03,734
local grocery stores and and

979
00:35:03,734 --> 00:35:06,804
our economy. So why do I want

980
00:35:06,804 --> 00:35:08,138
you to talk about Snap with

981
00:35:08,138 --> 00:35:09,373
your member of Congress? So

982
00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:10,174
that's a little bit more

983
00:35:10,174 --> 00:35:12,476
complex. So the new H.R. one

984
00:35:12,476 --> 00:35:14,144
law that Congress passed last

985
00:35:14,144 --> 00:35:15,479
year. Well, it requires

986
00:35:15,479 --> 00:35:17,448
counties, our counties to meet

987
00:35:17,448 --> 00:35:19,450
new error rate standards in

988
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:21,285
your DSS offices by the end of

989
00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:23,454
2026. And if we don't, it means

990
00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:25,489
financial penalties on our

991
00:35:25,489 --> 00:35:27,257
counties. And honestly, it's

992
00:35:27,257 --> 00:35:28,392
going to be kind of hard to

993
00:35:28,392 --> 00:35:30,461
achieve. Don't get me wrong, we

994
00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:32,496
want to achieve them, but we

995
00:35:32,496 --> 00:35:34,932
need more time to do it. So

996
00:35:34,932 --> 00:35:36,834
here's the ask. When you meet

997
00:35:36,834 --> 00:35:38,168
with your member of Congress,

998
00:35:38,168 --> 00:35:40,504
please ask them to delay the

999
00:35:40,504 --> 00:35:42,439
implementation of the Snap

1000
00:35:42,439 --> 00:35:44,608
error rate provisions. It will

1001
00:35:44,608 --> 00:35:46,744
be helpful to counties. They're

1002
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,846
talking about it right now in

1003
00:35:48,846 --> 00:35:51,081
the farm bill. So the timing is

1004
00:35:51,081 --> 00:35:52,816
really important. There's a lot

1005
00:35:52,816 --> 00:35:54,418
more detail that we can share

1006
00:35:54,418 --> 00:35:55,819
with you about this. Hey. Hey,

1007
00:35:55,819 --> 00:35:56,887
Kevin, why don't you tell them

1008
00:35:56,887 --> 00:35:58,722
to check out the weekly and,

1009
00:35:58,722 --> 00:36:00,324
uh, the information in the link

1010
00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:03,794
below? Great idea. Kevin. Hey,

1011
00:36:03,794 --> 00:36:05,262
thanks for your leadership.

1012
00:36:05,262 --> 00:36:07,197
Thanks for your public service.

1013
00:36:07,197 --> 00:36:09,967
And thanks for listening. Can

1014
00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:15,339
we can we show our logo now?

1015
00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,074
Um, so that's just a very brief

1016
00:36:17,074 --> 00:36:19,143
overview of snap benefits and

1017
00:36:19,143 --> 00:36:21,145
the ask from our association is

1018
00:36:21,145 --> 00:36:23,881
that this board approve the

1019
00:36:23,881 --> 00:36:26,717
chairman to sign a advocacy

1020
00:36:26,717 --> 00:36:27,785
letter going to our

1021
00:36:27,785 --> 00:36:29,486
congressional delegation asking

1022
00:36:29,486 --> 00:36:31,855
them to delay H.R. one and

1023
00:36:31,855 --> 00:36:34,024
implementation of that error

1024
00:36:34,024 --> 00:36:36,493
rate penalty. Um, if the board

1025
00:36:36,493 --> 00:36:38,796
is so inclined to do that, you

1026
00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:41,098
can move now to direct that to

1027
00:36:41,098 --> 00:36:41,966
happen. And we can have a

1028
00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:43,801
letter prepared for you. Um,

1029
00:36:43,801 --> 00:36:44,935
for the chairman's signature

1030
00:36:44,935 --> 00:36:46,537
this week.

1031
00:36:46,537 --> 00:36:48,139
Second.

1032
00:36:48,139 --> 00:36:49,373
We got a motion and a second,

1033
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:58,783
please vote.

1034
00:36:58,783 --> 00:37:00,017
Thank you. And then the last

1035
00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:02,720
thing I have on your report is,

1036
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,356
um, after when we last met on

1037
00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:07,424
this board authorized, um,

1038
00:37:07,424 --> 00:37:08,726
county staff to move forward

1039
00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:11,295
with the application of a FEMA

1040
00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:13,464
grant to support the cost of

1041
00:37:13,464 --> 00:37:16,400
repairs at Lake Glenwood Dam.

1042
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,338
Um, through, um, FEMA, um,

1043
00:37:21,338 --> 00:37:23,974
mitigation funds, uh,

1044
00:37:23,974 --> 00:37:25,075
administered through North

1045
00:37:25,075 --> 00:37:26,443
Carolina's Department of Public

1046
00:37:26,443 --> 00:37:29,380
Safety. Um, since then, I

1047
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,248
received an email from Jordan

1048
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:34,017
Pappas, um, who is with the

1049
00:37:34,017 --> 00:37:35,486
North Carolina Department of

1050
00:37:35,486 --> 00:37:37,688
Environmental Quality, making

1051
00:37:37,688 --> 00:37:39,556
me aware that they have just

1052
00:37:39,556 --> 00:37:41,592
opened another grant

1053
00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:44,495
opportunity through FEMA funds.

1054
00:37:44,495 --> 00:37:45,963
But through the North Carolina

1055
00:37:45,963 --> 00:37:47,331
Department of Environmental

1056
00:37:47,331 --> 00:37:49,533
Quality. Um, and this is

1057
00:37:49,533 --> 00:37:51,935
specifically for repairs to

1058
00:37:51,935 --> 00:37:54,171
high hazard dams. And so

1059
00:37:54,171 --> 00:37:55,339
tonight, I'm seeking your

1060
00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:57,074
approval. Um, to go ahead and

1061
00:37:57,074 --> 00:37:59,343
apply for this in addition to

1062
00:37:59,343 --> 00:38:01,812
the other FEMA grant that we

1063
00:38:01,812 --> 00:38:03,480
have applied for. Michael

1064
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,615
Hardee has been leading the

1065
00:38:04,615 --> 00:38:05,849
charge on completing those

1066
00:38:05,849 --> 00:38:08,085
applications. He did reach out

1067
00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:09,620
to both entities and confirmed

1068
00:38:09,620 --> 00:38:10,954
that we can apply for both at

1069
00:38:10,954 --> 00:38:13,924
the same time. He also learned,

1070
00:38:13,924 --> 00:38:16,727
um, that for this most recent

1071
00:38:16,727 --> 00:38:19,463
one, under NC Dec, there's

1072
00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:22,533
$11.4 million available for the

1073
00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:25,402
entire country. Um, and so we

1074
00:38:25,402 --> 00:38:27,838
are probably more likely to

1075
00:38:27,838 --> 00:38:29,640
receive funds under the first

1076
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,608
grant opportunity, but you

1077
00:38:31,608 --> 00:38:33,243
never know. And we don't want

1078
00:38:33,243 --> 00:38:36,113
to leave anything unasked. So

1079
00:38:36,113 --> 00:38:38,582
if the board is so inclined to

1080
00:38:38,582 --> 00:38:40,117
direct that we apply for this

1081
00:38:40,117 --> 00:38:42,085
grant, we can go ahead and do

1082
00:38:42,085 --> 00:38:43,454
so.

1083
00:38:43,454 --> 00:38:44,789
From.

1084
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:45,956
We've got a motion and a

1085
00:38:45,956 --> 00:38:55,065
second. Please vote. Okay.

1086
00:38:55,065 --> 00:38:56,099
Thank you. That's all that I

1087
00:38:56,099 --> 00:38:56,367
have.

1088
00:38:56,367 --> 00:38:57,534
Thank you, Madam Manager. We'll

1089
00:38:57,534 --> 00:38:59,102
move the items for consent.

1090
00:38:59,102 --> 00:39:00,738
Uh, second.

1091
00:39:00,738 --> 00:39:02,039
Okay. We got a motion and a

1092
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:03,373
second. For items with consent,

1093
00:39:03,373 --> 00:39:09,713
please vote. Okay. Thank you.

1094
00:39:09,713 --> 00:39:12,716
And we'll move on to items for

1095
00:39:12,716 --> 00:39:15,886
decision. I can get back to

1096
00:39:15,886 --> 00:39:17,888
where I was at. Uh, Florida.

1097
00:39:17,888 --> 00:39:19,256
Come on up. You got the first

1098
00:39:19,256 --> 00:39:22,092
one. Personnel ordinance.

1099
00:39:22,092 --> 00:39:23,861
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And

1100
00:39:23,861 --> 00:39:25,796
good evening to all of you. In

1101
00:39:25,796 --> 00:39:27,464
your package, you have a copy

1102
00:39:27,464 --> 00:39:28,499
of the county's personnel

1103
00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:30,701
ordinance that shows some edits

1104
00:39:30,701 --> 00:39:32,536
that we need to make with the

1105
00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:33,837
independent consolidation of

1106
00:39:33,837 --> 00:39:35,339
social services and the public

1107
00:39:35,339 --> 00:39:37,140
health department, effective

1108
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:39,343
October 1st, uh, the personnel

1109
00:39:39,343 --> 00:39:40,777
ordinance has to be updated to

1110
00:39:40,777 --> 00:39:42,412
remove language that references

1111
00:39:42,412 --> 00:39:43,447
the Office of State Human

1112
00:39:43,447 --> 00:39:45,249
Resources and its governance

1113
00:39:45,249 --> 00:39:46,450
over the employees in both of

1114
00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:48,819
those agencies. If you accept

1115
00:39:48,819 --> 00:39:50,220
that the amendments would be

1116
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:51,221
effective, like I said on

1117
00:39:51,221 --> 00:39:53,357
October 1st of this year. Um,

1118
00:39:53,357 --> 00:39:55,192
once the consolidation is set,

1119
00:39:55,192 --> 00:39:56,360
I've given you a list of the

1120
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,895
sections that we need to make

1121
00:39:57,895 --> 00:39:59,763
the updates in. Hopefully

1122
00:39:59,763 --> 00:40:00,997
you've had a chance to see it.

1123
00:40:00,997 --> 00:40:02,299
Uh, section three. Section

1124
00:40:02,299 --> 00:40:06,970
nine, 23, 68, 74, 161 and 171.

1125
00:40:06,970 --> 00:40:08,539
So those are the sections with

1126
00:40:08,539 --> 00:40:09,740
the edits. If you have any

1127
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:12,843
questions, if not, I would ask

1128
00:40:12,843 --> 00:40:15,179
that you. Thank you very much.

1129
00:40:15,179 --> 00:40:16,813
Thank any questions. We got a

1130
00:40:16,813 --> 00:40:17,881
motion and a second. Any

1131
00:40:17,881 --> 00:40:20,517
questions for Florida? Okay.

1132
00:40:20,517 --> 00:40:27,658
All right. Let's vote. Thank

1133
00:40:27,658 --> 00:40:29,627
you. Okay. Thank you.

1134
00:40:29,627 --> 00:40:31,528
Mr. Chairman. Since this is an

1135
00:40:31,528 --> 00:40:33,096
ordinance and since you do not

1136
00:40:33,096 --> 00:40:34,731
have a full board, we'll bring

1137
00:40:34,731 --> 00:40:36,333
it back as an item for consent

1138
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:37,734
for its second reading at your

1139
00:40:37,734 --> 00:40:38,402
next meeting.

1140
00:40:38,402 --> 00:40:39,270
Okay, great.

1141
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:40,938
Thank you. All right. Final

1142
00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:47,477
design of the EMS station. Can.

1143
00:40:47,477 --> 00:40:48,612
Good evening, Mr. Chairman.

1144
00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:50,914
Commissioners, County manager

1145
00:40:50,914 --> 00:40:52,015
here tonight to request

1146
00:40:52,015 --> 00:40:53,283
approval to move forward with

1147
00:40:53,283 --> 00:40:54,952
the site specific designs and

1148
00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:56,420
bidding for a new Pitt County

1149
00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:57,621
EMS station at the county

1150
00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:01,692
office park as part of the 2020

1151
00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:03,393
627 fiscal year capital

1152
00:41:03,393 --> 00:41:04,661
Improvement Plan. The Board of

1153
00:41:04,661 --> 00:41:06,463
Commissioners approved funding

1154
00:41:06,463 --> 00:41:09,766
for new new EMS station in

1155
00:41:09,766 --> 00:41:14,237
2024. Uh, the board approved

1156
00:41:14,237 --> 00:41:16,039
for us to go out with an RFQ

1157
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:18,742
for design for a new EMS

1158
00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:21,578
station. Uh, in 2024, we

1159
00:41:21,578 --> 00:41:24,081
selected BW architecture to

1160
00:41:24,081 --> 00:41:25,916
develop an EMS station designed

1161
00:41:25,916 --> 00:41:27,284
to meet the operational needs

1162
00:41:27,284 --> 00:41:28,752
of the Pitt County EMS

1163
00:41:28,752 --> 00:41:32,723
Department. This, uh, this

1164
00:41:32,723 --> 00:41:34,691
prototype design is not site

1165
00:41:34,691 --> 00:41:36,994
specific. We had them build a

1166
00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:38,562
basic generic plan so we could

1167
00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:40,097
adopt it to any site in the

1168
00:41:40,097 --> 00:41:41,264
county of wherever we decided

1169
00:41:41,264 --> 00:41:44,201
to build one, uh, emergency

1170
00:41:44,201 --> 00:41:46,003
management continually reviews

1171
00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:47,938
data related to the EMS system

1172
00:41:47,938 --> 00:41:49,172
to identify trends and

1173
00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:50,073
determine where additional

1174
00:41:50,073 --> 00:41:52,442
resources may be needed. Data

1175
00:41:52,442 --> 00:41:56,313
has shown a steady over year increase in the EMS

1176
00:41:56,313 --> 00:41:58,281
call volume, and Government

1177
00:41:58,281 --> 00:41:59,650
Circle area, including the

1178
00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:01,518
industrial park, the airport

1179
00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:04,021
area, NC 33 old River road

1180
00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:06,523
corridor and surrounding areas.

1181
00:42:06,523 --> 00:42:08,058
The increased call volume has

1182
00:42:08,058 --> 00:42:09,493
placed additional strain on the

1183
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:10,694
two ambulances currently

1184
00:42:10,694 --> 00:42:12,295
stationed north of the river.

1185
00:42:12,295 --> 00:42:13,764
When these units are dispatched

1186
00:42:13,764 --> 00:42:15,198
to the Government Circle area,

1187
00:42:15,198 --> 00:42:17,134
the geographical distance and

1188
00:42:17,134 --> 00:42:19,136
limited coverage options can

1189
00:42:19,136 --> 00:42:20,537
leave areas such as Bethel,

1190
00:42:20,537 --> 00:42:22,673
Clarks Neck and Stokes without

1191
00:42:22,673 --> 00:42:24,207
ambulance coverage for extended

1192
00:42:24,207 --> 00:42:27,544
periods of time. The increased,

1193
00:42:27,544 --> 00:42:29,212
uh, the continued increase in

1194
00:42:29,212 --> 00:42:30,280
call volume and the Government

1195
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,182
Circle area has highlighted the

1196
00:42:32,182 --> 00:42:34,785
need to evaluate EMS coverage

1197
00:42:34,785 --> 00:42:36,486
in this region to ensure

1198
00:42:36,486 --> 00:42:38,088
adequate response times and

1199
00:42:38,088 --> 00:42:39,489
maintain reliable ambulance

1200
00:42:39,489 --> 00:42:40,624
coverage throughout the

1201
00:42:40,624 --> 00:42:43,260
northern portion of the county.

1202
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:46,163
So the proposed contract with

1203
00:42:46,163 --> 00:42:47,864
BW architecture will include

1204
00:42:47,864 --> 00:42:49,766
finalizing the building plans

1205
00:42:49,766 --> 00:42:52,602
based on the site selected,

1206
00:42:52,602 --> 00:42:54,104
completing the necessary site

1207
00:42:54,104 --> 00:42:55,939
designs, providing contract

1208
00:42:55,939 --> 00:42:57,174
administration services

1209
00:42:57,174 --> 00:42:58,208
throughout the construction

1210
00:42:58,208 --> 00:43:00,243
process. These services will

1211
00:43:00,243 --> 00:43:01,778
include bidding, responding to

1212
00:43:01,778 --> 00:43:03,613
RFI, conducting monthly

1213
00:43:03,613 --> 00:43:05,682
progress meetings, reviewing

1214
00:43:05,682 --> 00:43:07,684
payment applications, and

1215
00:43:07,684 --> 00:43:08,819
completing the final punch

1216
00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:10,454
list, and overseeing the

1217
00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:12,956
project. Closeout. Tonight, I'm

1218
00:43:12,956 --> 00:43:14,224
asking the board to authorize

1219
00:43:14,224 --> 00:43:15,792
the county manager to execute a

1220
00:43:15,792 --> 00:43:17,961
contract with BW architect not

1221
00:43:17,961 --> 00:43:21,164
to exceed $97,000 to finalize

1222
00:43:21,164 --> 00:43:22,632
the site specific plans and

1223
00:43:22,632 --> 00:43:23,734
proceed with the bidding for

1224
00:43:23,734 --> 00:43:27,104
the new county EMS station.

1225
00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:28,172
Okay. Thank you. It's a

1226
00:43:28,172 --> 00:43:28,972
pleasure to board.

1227
00:43:28,972 --> 00:43:30,841
Motion.

1228
00:43:30,841 --> 00:43:32,008
Okay. We got a motion on a

1229
00:43:32,008 --> 00:43:38,048
second. Please vote. Okay.

1230
00:43:38,048 --> 00:43:39,516
Thank you. Thank you, Madam

1231
00:43:39,516 --> 00:43:40,650
Manager. Do you have the next

1232
00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:41,819
one to reappointment?

1233
00:43:41,819 --> 00:43:43,887
Yes. It is being suggested that

1234
00:43:43,887 --> 00:43:45,522
this board reappoint Clayton

1235
00:43:45,522 --> 00:43:46,690
South to the Greenville

1236
00:43:46,690 --> 00:43:49,927
Planning and Zoning Commission.

1237
00:43:49,927 --> 00:43:50,894
What's the pleasure? Got a

1238
00:43:50,894 --> 00:43:52,929
motion on here a second. Okay.

1239
00:43:52,929 --> 00:44:00,103
Please vote. All right. I will

1240
00:44:00,103 --> 00:44:01,004
start from my left.

1241
00:44:01,004 --> 00:44:02,038
Commissioner. Man. Do you have

1242
00:44:02,038 --> 00:44:03,073
any comments? We do have a

1243
00:44:03,073 --> 00:44:04,241
closed session.

1244
00:44:04,241 --> 00:44:07,010
Yes, sir. Uh, just one thing on

1245
00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:11,715
the plate with, uh, Dan, when

1246
00:44:11,715 --> 00:44:14,918
we have an opinion from DQ or

1247
00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:16,720
whatever of what direction you

1248
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,323
should go, there. I mean, I

1249
00:44:20,323 --> 00:44:22,726
think that's, you know, we're

1250
00:44:22,726 --> 00:44:25,195
talking about getting funds to

1251
00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:27,798
build a damn good conversation

1252
00:44:27,798 --> 00:44:31,535
about returning it to without,

1253
00:44:31,535 --> 00:44:32,836
you know, decommissioning,

1254
00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:36,373
delay. Uh, I feel in need of

1255
00:44:36,373 --> 00:44:39,543
some expert opinion from a

1256
00:44:39,543 --> 00:44:41,011
hydrologist or whatever they

1257
00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:42,445
call the folks that study that

1258
00:44:42,445 --> 00:44:47,517
kind of thing about water and, uh, a the watershed to

1259
00:44:47,517 --> 00:44:49,019
make a recommendation of what

1260
00:44:49,019 --> 00:44:51,888
we should do regardless of the

1261
00:44:51,888 --> 00:44:54,524
cost. I just wanted to mention

1262
00:44:54,524 --> 00:44:56,526
that and see if we can. But

1263
00:44:56,526 --> 00:44:58,128
that's not actually being done

1264
00:44:58,128 --> 00:44:59,830
at this point.

1265
00:44:59,830 --> 00:45:02,332
It is not. Should I answer it?

1266
00:45:02,332 --> 00:45:04,000
Yes. Yes. It is not actually

1267
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,602
being done at this point. Um,

1268
00:45:05,602 --> 00:45:07,103
when we consider the various

1269
00:45:07,103 --> 00:45:08,672
alternatives, one of the

1270
00:45:08,672 --> 00:45:10,974
alternatives would have been,

1271
00:45:10,974 --> 00:45:13,009
um, to secure an engineer's

1272
00:45:13,009 --> 00:45:15,579
design of a decommission for

1273
00:45:15,579 --> 00:45:17,447
submission to DEQ for

1274
00:45:17,447 --> 00:45:19,983
consideration and approval. Um,

1275
00:45:19,983 --> 00:45:22,018
the board instead voted to move

1276
00:45:22,018 --> 00:45:24,221
forward with um seeking the

1277
00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:25,722
grant funding to pursue the

1278
00:45:25,722 --> 00:45:28,491
repair pursuant to the design

1279
00:45:28,491 --> 00:45:30,861
that already exists. But we do

1280
00:45:30,861 --> 00:45:32,996
not have, um, nor have we

1281
00:45:32,996 --> 00:45:34,598
brought to you a presentation

1282
00:45:34,598 --> 00:45:37,767
from DEQ. If they would do one.

1283
00:45:37,767 --> 00:45:40,604
Um, about what they think the

1284
00:45:40,604 --> 00:45:42,272
you should do in terms of

1285
00:45:42,272 --> 00:45:44,574
repairing or decommissioning.

1286
00:45:44,574 --> 00:45:47,978
Um, we have heard, um, some

1287
00:45:47,978 --> 00:45:51,314
conversation from LGB, our

1288
00:45:51,314 --> 00:45:53,250
architect, that there is a

1289
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:55,819
chance that DEQ might not

1290
00:45:55,819 --> 00:45:58,021
approve a decommission at all.

1291
00:45:58,021 --> 00:45:59,155
Then there was some

1292
00:45:59,155 --> 00:46:01,291
conversation that DEQ would

1293
00:46:01,291 --> 00:46:03,793
approve a decommission, but it

1294
00:46:03,793 --> 00:46:05,328
would have to be pursuant to a

1295
00:46:05,328 --> 00:46:07,497
design that may or may not have

1296
00:46:07,497 --> 00:46:10,734
a different, um, cost impact.

1297
00:46:10,734 --> 00:46:12,002
Right. It was unknown as to

1298
00:46:12,002 --> 00:46:13,236
what the parameters of that

1299
00:46:13,236 --> 00:46:15,238
cost would be. But no, we do

1300
00:46:15,238 --> 00:46:16,806
not have pending, nor have we

1301
00:46:16,806 --> 00:46:19,643
brought for you an opinion from

1302
00:46:19,643 --> 00:46:21,912
DEQ about whether it should be

1303
00:46:21,912 --> 00:46:23,580
decommissioned or repaired.

1304
00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:25,448
What we do know is that we are

1305
00:46:25,448 --> 00:46:27,484
under a notice of violation

1306
00:46:27,484 --> 00:46:31,121
with a directive to repair.

1307
00:46:31,121 --> 00:46:34,157
, and I understand all that.

1308
00:46:34,157 --> 00:46:35,959
I'm just saying from my point

1309
00:46:35,959 --> 00:46:38,461
of view, I don't have enough

1310
00:46:38,461 --> 00:46:40,363
information to actually decide

1311
00:46:40,363 --> 00:46:43,199
whether a dam and a maintaining

1312
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,402
the lake is the best choice,

1313
00:46:45,402 --> 00:46:46,369
because there's going to be

1314
00:46:46,369 --> 00:46:47,771
more development. I've talked

1315
00:46:47,771 --> 00:46:50,774
to people, you know, in the

1316
00:46:50,774 --> 00:46:52,075
area out there, and there's

1317
00:46:52,075 --> 00:46:53,610
pros and cons about the whole

1318
00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:58,481
thing. And, uh, so, um, I just

1319
00:46:58,481 --> 00:47:01,217
would like to have some

1320
00:47:01,217 --> 00:47:04,020
information from the expert who

1321
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:05,722
studies the whole watershed

1322
00:47:05,722 --> 00:47:06,823
issue. I mean, we have a

1323
00:47:06,823 --> 00:47:08,224
southeastern drainage district.

1324
00:47:08,224 --> 00:47:10,393
I don't know if they have

1325
00:47:10,393 --> 00:47:11,861
contact with somebody that can

1326
00:47:11,861 --> 00:47:14,064
give us just a, you know, to

1327
00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:16,333
help guide that decision,

1328
00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:18,168
whether to replace a dam

1329
00:47:18,168 --> 00:47:19,336
because you're still talking

1330
00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:21,905
about having to release water.

1331
00:47:21,905 --> 00:47:24,007
And we've in since we actually

1332
00:47:24,007 --> 00:47:26,343
met. I think, you know, have

1333
00:47:26,343 --> 00:47:28,345
we've had information about,

1334
00:47:28,345 --> 00:47:30,647
uh, how they, when hurricanes

1335
00:47:30,647 --> 00:47:32,415
are coming, they drained they

1336
00:47:32,415 --> 00:47:35,285
drained the lake. Well, you

1337
00:47:35,285 --> 00:47:36,653
know, as, as there's no

1338
00:47:36,653 --> 00:47:39,322
pressure put on that waterway,

1339
00:47:39,322 --> 00:47:40,657
uh, is that going to be

1340
00:47:40,657 --> 00:47:42,158
sufficient? Because I think

1341
00:47:42,158 --> 00:47:43,927
this dam is designed to release

1342
00:47:43,927 --> 00:47:45,762
water to maintain a certain

1343
00:47:45,762 --> 00:47:49,232
level, but is that really the

1344
00:47:49,232 --> 00:47:50,467
safest thing to do?

1345
00:47:50,467 --> 00:47:52,602
So what I might so what I might

1346
00:47:52,602 --> 00:47:54,404
suggest, if it's the desire of

1347
00:47:54,404 --> 00:47:56,873
the board, would be to bring,

1348
00:47:56,873 --> 00:47:59,476
um, our engineer from LG be

1349
00:47:59,476 --> 00:48:01,177
present to answer those types

1350
00:48:01,177 --> 00:48:03,913
of questions. So, um, Ken,

1351
00:48:03,913 --> 00:48:05,115
please remind me his name.

1352
00:48:05,115 --> 00:48:09,652
Sherab sir. And his last name.

1353
00:48:09,652 --> 00:48:13,223
Not sure. Um, Sarab with L. JB

1354
00:48:13,223 --> 00:48:15,258
has been working with us for

1355
00:48:15,258 --> 00:48:16,393
the over the last several

1356
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:17,927
months. He has been our point

1357
00:48:17,927 --> 00:48:20,296
of contact. Um, when we reached

1358
00:48:20,296 --> 00:48:22,399
out about, um, decommissioning,

1359
00:48:22,399 --> 00:48:25,301
and he's been. LGB has been

1360
00:48:25,301 --> 00:48:28,138
part of the lake Glenwood dam.

1361
00:48:28,138 --> 00:48:30,740
Uh, evolution for a large

1362
00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:32,609
number of years. I think they

1363
00:48:32,609 --> 00:48:35,178
would, given their expertise,

1364
00:48:35,178 --> 00:48:37,013
um, be in the best position to

1365
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:38,248
answer the questions you're

1366
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:40,417
asking. Um, if it's the will of

1367
00:48:40,417 --> 00:48:42,285
the board for me to schedule

1368
00:48:42,285 --> 00:48:43,420
them to come to a future

1369
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:44,921
meeting.

1370
00:48:44,921 --> 00:48:46,356
And I would appreciate that for

1371
00:48:46,356 --> 00:48:47,724
myself, because I think we've

1372
00:48:47,724 --> 00:48:48,958
had a lot of conversation about

1373
00:48:48,958 --> 00:48:50,927
the cost of this or that, but

1374
00:48:50,927 --> 00:48:52,062
we haven't talked about what's

1375
00:48:52,062 --> 00:48:53,196
really the best thing to do,

1376
00:48:53,196 --> 00:48:55,265
regardless of the cost. That's

1377
00:48:55,265 --> 00:48:56,800
kind of I'd like to hear. I

1378
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,001
would like to hear from some

1379
00:48:58,001 --> 00:48:59,736
experts that can give some

1380
00:48:59,736 --> 00:49:02,472
recommendations to or something.

1381
00:49:02,572 --> 00:49:03,940
Uh, I'm fine with that. My

1382
00:49:03,940 --> 00:49:06,342
question is, Will, do you even

1383
00:49:06,342 --> 00:49:08,178
give an opinion? I don't know,

1384
00:49:08,178 --> 00:49:09,446
something like that.

1385
00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:12,248
I don't believe so, but I think

1386
00:49:12,248 --> 00:49:14,117
you could hear from LGB and

1387
00:49:14,117 --> 00:49:16,052
they know exactly what DEQ will

1388
00:49:16,052 --> 00:49:17,287
and won't do because they are

1389
00:49:17,287 --> 00:49:19,322
so familiar with working with

1390
00:49:19,322 --> 00:49:22,659
dam repairs. I don't think, um,

1391
00:49:22,659 --> 00:49:23,326
DEQ.

1392
00:49:23,326 --> 00:49:24,761
Is an engineer that has some

1393
00:49:24,761 --> 00:49:27,263
expertise and can actually give

1394
00:49:27,263 --> 00:49:29,432
us an opinion of is it better

1395
00:49:29,432 --> 00:49:30,834
to build a dam or better to

1396
00:49:30,834 --> 00:49:32,735
restore the old creek bed

1397
00:49:32,735 --> 00:49:33,003
there?

1398
00:49:33,003 --> 00:49:35,405
Yes. Engineers with specific

1399
00:49:35,405 --> 00:49:38,074
expertise in dams and this

1400
00:49:38,074 --> 00:49:39,509
particular problem.

1401
00:49:39,509 --> 00:49:40,844
I would appreciate that because

1402
00:49:40,844 --> 00:49:42,412
I just feel like that's a piece

1403
00:49:42,412 --> 00:49:45,014
that I haven't got to to make

1404
00:49:45,014 --> 00:49:47,417
it decision. Yes, to try to do

1405
00:49:47,417 --> 00:49:48,251
the right thing.

1406
00:49:48,251 --> 00:49:49,919
Yes. And we remain under

1407
00:49:49,919 --> 00:49:52,522
contract with LGB. Um, as they

1408
00:49:52,522 --> 00:49:55,658
continue to monitor this and,

1409
00:49:55,658 --> 00:49:57,494
um, do the design and then they

1410
00:49:57,494 --> 00:49:59,362
have to do the if we were to

1411
00:49:59,362 --> 00:50:01,198
repair it, they would have to

1412
00:50:01,198 --> 00:50:02,832
put the final engineer's seal

1413
00:50:02,832 --> 00:50:04,801
that it was, um, constructed

1414
00:50:04,801 --> 00:50:06,035
according to the engineered

1415
00:50:06,035 --> 00:50:08,204
plans. And so we remain under

1416
00:50:08,204 --> 00:50:09,939
contract with LGB, and I'm sure

1417
00:50:09,939 --> 00:50:12,876
that we could ask them to come

1418
00:50:12,876 --> 00:50:15,011
to a future meeting. Um, and

1419
00:50:15,011 --> 00:50:16,846
present an item for report

1420
00:50:16,846 --> 00:50:19,382
about what? Their design, um,

1421
00:50:19,382 --> 00:50:21,651
is, why they designed it that

1422
00:50:21,651 --> 00:50:23,286
way. And answer any questions

1423
00:50:23,286 --> 00:50:25,288
the board may have about their

1424
00:50:25,288 --> 00:50:26,623
design to repair or the

1425
00:50:26,623 --> 00:50:29,859
alternative of decommissioning.

1426
00:50:29,859 --> 00:50:31,361
Everybody good with that? Yeah.

1427
00:50:31,361 --> 00:50:31,661
Okay.

1428
00:50:31,661 --> 00:50:32,496
That would be good. Thank you,

1429
00:50:32,496 --> 00:50:34,564
Mr. Chairman. I just.

1430
00:50:34,564 --> 00:50:34,865
Yes.

1431
00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:36,633
Sir.

1432
00:50:36,633 --> 00:50:39,035
Commissioner Nunnally,

1433
00:50:39,035 --> 00:50:41,104
Commissioner Floyd Huggins, Mr.

1434
00:50:41,104 --> 00:50:42,005
McLaughlin.

1435
00:50:42,005 --> 00:50:42,305
Yeah.

1436
00:50:42,305 --> 00:50:45,474
I do have one. Uh, I've been

1437
00:50:45,474 --> 00:50:47,610
reading a lot in the newspaper,

1438
00:50:47,610 --> 00:50:48,878
and also I've had a couple of

1439
00:50:48,878 --> 00:50:50,880
people called to my house a

1440
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,615
reference to the data data

1441
00:50:52,615 --> 00:50:55,918
center. Uh, you you may have

1442
00:50:55,918 --> 00:50:57,720
heard about that and then talk

1443
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:00,290
about the use of, uh, a lot of

1444
00:51:00,290 --> 00:51:02,559
water and electricity and

1445
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:03,459
taking them away from the

1446
00:51:03,459 --> 00:51:05,795
citizens of the county. Uh,

1447
00:51:05,795 --> 00:51:10,200
what, uh, what is it? Uh, I was standing on that with

1448
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,502
Madam Manager in terms of, uh,

1449
00:51:12,502 --> 00:51:14,704
what are you hearing about? If

1450
00:51:14,704 --> 00:51:15,338
I could.

1451
00:51:15,338 --> 00:51:17,473
Um, sure. So we actually had a

1452
00:51:17,473 --> 00:51:19,542
good bit of discussion, um,

1453
00:51:19,542 --> 00:51:20,977
about data centers and

1454
00:51:20,977 --> 00:51:22,478
regulations at the Naco

1455
00:51:22,478 --> 00:51:25,481
conference. Um, last month. And

1456
00:51:25,481 --> 00:51:27,684
we are at the same time going

1457
00:51:27,684 --> 00:51:29,252
through a process of developing

1458
00:51:29,252 --> 00:51:30,486
a unified development

1459
00:51:30,486 --> 00:51:32,255
ordinance. Um, you may recall a

1460
00:51:32,255 --> 00:51:34,290
presentation from Jonas Hill,

1461
00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:35,792
um, two meetings ago where we

1462
00:51:35,792 --> 00:51:36,960
talked about what that would

1463
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,929
involve. Um, and part of that

1464
00:51:39,929 --> 00:51:41,898
unified development ordinance

1465
00:51:41,898 --> 00:51:45,335
would include, um, seeking

1466
00:51:45,335 --> 00:51:47,203
input from community

1467
00:51:47,203 --> 00:51:49,272
stakeholders, including members

1468
00:51:49,272 --> 00:51:51,808
of the public and experts on

1469
00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:54,277
areas that this board found to

1470
00:51:54,277 --> 00:51:56,079
be of particular interest or

1471
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:57,714
concern, including data

1472
00:51:57,714 --> 00:52:01,050
centers, solar farms, um, sand

1473
00:52:01,050 --> 00:52:03,152
mines and the other areas that

1474
00:52:03,152 --> 00:52:04,754
the board raised. When we had

1475
00:52:04,754 --> 00:52:07,757
that discussion. And so we do

1476
00:52:07,757 --> 00:52:09,559
not have any pending

1477
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:11,761
applications or any interest

1478
00:52:11,761 --> 00:52:12,929
that's been brought to my

1479
00:52:12,929 --> 00:52:15,498
attention directly. Um, for a

1480
00:52:15,498 --> 00:52:18,334
data center, um, we are moving

1481
00:52:18,334 --> 00:52:19,902
forward through the Unified

1482
00:52:19,902 --> 00:52:22,105
Development Ordinance process,

1483
00:52:22,105 --> 00:52:24,774
and expect to bring back, with

1484
00:52:24,774 --> 00:52:26,943
the assistance of a consultant,

1485
00:52:26,943 --> 00:52:29,612
um, feedback from a stakeholder

1486
00:52:29,612 --> 00:52:33,116
group and recommendations on

1487
00:52:33,116 --> 00:52:35,318
the best regulations for data

1488
00:52:35,318 --> 00:52:37,720
centers, um, to address all of

1489
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,555
those issues that have been

1490
00:52:39,555 --> 00:52:43,192
raised, noise, location, um,

1491
00:52:43,192 --> 00:52:45,595
utility consumption and all of

1492
00:52:45,595 --> 00:52:46,696
those things that have raised

1493
00:52:46,696 --> 00:52:49,732
concerns. I think, um, where,

1494
00:52:49,732 --> 00:52:52,435
um, there might be a pickle.

1495
00:52:52,435 --> 00:52:54,570
Could be if you do receive an

1496
00:52:54,570 --> 00:52:56,339
application before we complete

1497
00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:59,742
that process. And that's within

1498
00:52:59,742 --> 00:53:01,144
the purview of this board to

1499
00:53:01,144 --> 00:53:03,513
apply your existing ordinance

1500
00:53:03,513 --> 00:53:06,449
for, um, it's not called data

1501
00:53:06,449 --> 00:53:08,051
centers. It's called it's

1502
00:53:08,051 --> 00:53:10,720
Jonas. Still here? No, um, it

1503
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,690
is called, um, large scale data

1504
00:53:13,690 --> 00:53:15,258
processing is what our

1505
00:53:15,258 --> 00:53:16,659
ordinance calls it right now.

1506
00:53:16,659 --> 00:53:19,195
So you would be, um, bound by

1507
00:53:19,195 --> 00:53:20,530
your current ordinance and

1508
00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:22,999
considering an application now?

1509
00:53:22,999 --> 00:53:25,501
Um, but we, in the absence of

1510
00:53:25,501 --> 00:53:26,836
any interest, it would be up to

1511
00:53:26,836 --> 00:53:28,004
this board whether you wanted

1512
00:53:28,004 --> 00:53:29,806
to consider a moratorium until

1513
00:53:29,806 --> 00:53:30,840
the Unified Development

1514
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,608
Ordinance that was complete in

1515
00:53:32,608 --> 00:53:34,811
the absence of an application,

1516
00:53:34,811 --> 00:53:36,779
um, and with the existence of

1517
00:53:36,779 --> 00:53:38,381
your current ordinance, I'm not

1518
00:53:38,381 --> 00:53:40,516
sure that that's necessary, but

1519
00:53:40,516 --> 00:53:41,617
certainly if it's something the

1520
00:53:41,617 --> 00:53:42,885
board wanted to consider, we

1521
00:53:42,885 --> 00:53:45,655
could look at a moratorium.

1522
00:53:45,655 --> 00:53:48,157
Otherwise we would seek robust

1523
00:53:48,157 --> 00:53:50,193
feedback and then incorporate

1524
00:53:50,193 --> 00:53:52,662
that into the ordinance that's

1525
00:53:52,662 --> 00:53:53,330
brought back through the

1526
00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:56,132
planning department.

1527
00:53:56,132 --> 00:53:58,101
One that I would like to say

1528
00:53:58,101 --> 00:54:00,903
that the one concern that I've

1529
00:54:00,903 --> 00:54:03,339
heard from farmers in my area

1530
00:54:03,339 --> 00:54:06,576
is that the loss of farmland is

1531
00:54:06,576 --> 00:54:09,645
concerning, and the fact that

1532
00:54:09,645 --> 00:54:13,716
he County is a food study, I

1533
00:54:13,716 --> 00:54:15,418
won't say desert because we

1534
00:54:15,418 --> 00:54:17,720
still can't make a little crop

1535
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:20,957
somewhere, but we need to. We

1536
00:54:20,957 --> 00:54:23,793
need to be a bit cognizant of

1537
00:54:23,793 --> 00:54:25,661
how we and what we do with

1538
00:54:25,661 --> 00:54:28,564
land, farmland and and the

1539
00:54:28,564 --> 00:54:30,433
farmers are concerned about

1540
00:54:30,433 --> 00:54:36,639
that. So, um, I, I am willing

1541
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:39,208
to hear any discussion, but,

1542
00:54:39,208 --> 00:54:41,978
uh, they are pushing me about

1543
00:54:41,978 --> 00:54:43,713
supporting, taking away

1544
00:54:43,713 --> 00:54:47,484
farmland.

1545
00:54:47,484 --> 00:54:49,018
Okay, give me a small one.

1546
00:54:49,018 --> 00:54:50,119
Yeah, I would like to make a

1547
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:52,522
motion that we we tabled, uh,

1548
00:54:52,522 --> 00:54:53,956
any concerns about the data

1549
00:54:53,956 --> 00:54:55,725
center right now until we get

1550
00:54:55,725 --> 00:54:57,727
more information, uh, uh,

1551
00:54:57,727 --> 00:54:58,962
concerns about that.

1552
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,764
I second that, mister.

1553
00:55:01,764 --> 00:55:02,565
Madam chairman.

1554
00:55:02,565 --> 00:55:03,666
Is that a or are you.

1555
00:55:03,666 --> 00:55:03,966
Asking to.

1556
00:55:03,966 --> 00:55:05,535
Put a moratorium on it until we

1557
00:55:05,535 --> 00:55:09,806
get the plan right? I.

1558
00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:11,374
So I think there are procedural

1559
00:55:11,374 --> 00:55:12,775
requirements that we'll have to

1560
00:55:12,775 --> 00:55:14,811
comply with in order to enact

1561
00:55:14,811 --> 00:55:16,245
the moratorium. But I think if

1562
00:55:16,245 --> 00:55:19,682
we read that to bring back the

1563
00:55:19,682 --> 00:55:21,851
procedural requirements

1564
00:55:21,851 --> 00:55:23,219
necessary to invoke a

1565
00:55:23,219 --> 00:55:25,087
moratorium, we can certainly

1566
00:55:25,087 --> 00:55:26,522
take that as direction and

1567
00:55:26,522 --> 00:55:28,224
bring that back to the board

1568
00:55:28,224 --> 00:55:29,759
for formal consideration after

1569
00:55:29,759 --> 00:55:31,127
we follow the process without

1570
00:55:31,127 --> 00:55:32,128
looking at it. Matt, do you

1571
00:55:32,128 --> 00:55:32,895
know, off the top of your head,

1572
00:55:32,895 --> 00:55:33,897
do we need I think there's

1573
00:55:33,897 --> 00:55:35,331
formal notice that's required

1574
00:55:35,331 --> 00:55:37,366
before you can, um, effectuate

1575
00:55:37,366 --> 00:55:39,569
a moratorium. Um, and certain

1576
00:55:39,569 --> 00:55:40,936
language and resolutions that

1577
00:55:40,936 --> 00:55:42,972
would need to be adopted.

1578
00:55:42,972 --> 00:55:45,041
Mr. chair, maybe a friendly

1579
00:55:45,041 --> 00:55:47,543
modification and just a motion

1580
00:55:47,543 --> 00:55:49,879
to request that staff prepare a

1581
00:55:49,879 --> 00:55:50,813
report of our current

1582
00:55:50,813 --> 00:55:52,715
ordinance. And also what the

1583
00:55:52,715 --> 00:55:54,517
options are pending, the

1584
00:55:54,517 --> 00:55:55,918
unified. And maybe we do that

1585
00:55:55,918 --> 00:55:58,488
at our next meeting. Um, so

1586
00:55:58,488 --> 00:55:59,755
that we're in order

1587
00:55:59,755 --> 00:56:03,793
procedurally. Would you be okay

1588
00:56:03,793 --> 00:56:05,895
with that, Commissioner? Just a

1589
00:56:05,895 --> 00:56:07,063
friendly amendment to the to

1590
00:56:07,063 --> 00:56:09,032
the motion.

1591
00:56:09,032 --> 00:56:10,900
What would you accept? The

1592
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:12,001
friendly amendment?

1593
00:56:12,001 --> 00:56:12,335
Yes.

1594
00:56:12,335 --> 00:56:13,069
sir.

1595
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:14,003
Okay.

1596
00:56:14,003 --> 00:56:15,505
So just so I understand, bring

1597
00:56:15,505 --> 00:56:16,906
back the current ordinance.

1598
00:56:16,906 --> 00:56:19,876
and, um, and

1599
00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:22,411
then and then consider whatever

1600
00:56:22,411 --> 00:56:24,046
procedural posture we need to

1601
00:56:24,046 --> 00:56:26,449
be in to consider such a, such

1602
00:56:26,449 --> 00:56:27,383
a move, if that's what the

1603
00:56:27,383 --> 00:56:29,853
board would like to.

1604
00:56:29,853 --> 00:56:31,487
Do, you need to vote on that or

1605
00:56:31,487 --> 00:56:33,623
just need a consensus to on

1606
00:56:33,623 --> 00:56:33,857
that.

1607
00:56:33,857 --> 00:56:35,258
Consensus to bring it back is

1608
00:56:35,258 --> 00:56:35,692
fine.

1609
00:56:35,692 --> 00:56:37,193
I don't think we need a vote on

1610
00:56:37,193 --> 00:56:37,660
that.

1611
00:56:37,660 --> 00:56:38,761
And I can bring that back for

1612
00:56:38,761 --> 00:56:40,430
your next meeting. Okay.

1613
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:43,366
All right. That's good. Mr.

1614
00:56:43,366 --> 00:56:44,901
McLaughlin. Anything else?

1615
00:56:44,901 --> 00:56:45,535
No, sir.

1616
00:56:45,535 --> 00:56:46,769
Okay, Commissioner Weaver.

1617
00:56:46,769 --> 00:56:47,937
No, sir.

1618
00:56:47,937 --> 00:56:49,305
Commissioner Brown.

1619
00:56:49,305 --> 00:56:50,339
Yes? I just want to say

1620
00:56:50,339 --> 00:56:51,474
congratulations to Madam

1621
00:56:51,474 --> 00:56:52,775
Manager for being selected on

1622
00:56:52,775 --> 00:56:54,744
the property tax Committee. And

1623
00:56:54,744 --> 00:56:56,445
since we will not meet until

1624
00:56:56,445 --> 00:56:57,914
after Labor Day, happy Labor

1625
00:56:57,914 --> 00:57:00,149
Day to everyone.

1626
00:57:00,149 --> 00:57:01,351
Doing.

1627
00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:01,884
Anything else.

1628
00:57:01,884 --> 00:57:03,653
Commission motion to adjourn.

1629
00:57:03,653 --> 00:57:08,024
We got a closed session. Okay,

1630
00:57:08,024 --> 00:57:09,091
we'll make the motion to go

1631
00:57:09,091 --> 00:57:10,527
into closed session.

1632
00:57:10,527 --> 00:57:12,528
And I may read the bass

1633
00:57:12,528 --> 00:57:13,529
briefly. It's been suggested

1634
00:57:13,529 --> 00:57:14,497
that this body go into closed

1635
00:57:14,497 --> 00:57:15,464
session under the following

1636
00:57:15,464 --> 00:57:16,632
grounds one to consult with an

1637
00:57:16,632 --> 00:57:17,767
attorney employee to retain by

1638
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:19,402
the public body in order to

1639
00:57:19,402 --> 00:57:20,536
preserve attorney client

1640
00:57:20,536 --> 00:57:21,771
privilege under control.

1641
00:57:21,771 --> 00:57:24,273
Statute 143 through 1883, which

1642
00:57:24,273 --> 00:57:25,041
privilege is hereby

1643
00:57:25,041 --> 00:57:27,009
acknowledged to to establish or

1644
00:57:27,009 --> 00:57:28,177
instruct the public body staff

1645
00:57:28,177 --> 00:57:29,378
concerning the position to be

1646
00:57:29,378 --> 00:57:30,613
taken by or on behalf of the

1647
00:57:30,613 --> 00:57:31,714
public body, for the

1648
00:57:31,714 --> 00:57:32,882
acquisition of rural property

1649
00:57:32,882 --> 00:57:34,083
under North Carolina Statute

1650
00:57:34,083 --> 00:57:36,752
143 through 181185, and three,

1651
00:57:36,752 --> 00:57:37,887
to prevent the disclosure of

1652
00:57:37,887 --> 00:57:38,754
information that is not

1653
00:57:38,754 --> 00:57:40,122
considered a public record

1654
00:57:40,122 --> 00:57:41,123
under North Carolina General

1655
00:57:41,123 --> 00:57:43,926
Statute 1433 1810. And now the.

1656
00:57:43,926 --> 00:57:46,395
Motion okay, we want to make

1657
00:57:46,395 --> 00:57:47,863
that motion again, go in closed

1658
00:57:47,863 --> 00:57:48,264
session.

1659
00:57:48,264 --> 00:57:50,166
Yes. Motion to go into closed

1660
00:57:50,166 --> 00:57:50,400
session.

1661
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,534
Okay. Go here a second. Got a

1662
00:57:51,534 --> 00:57:53,169
second? Let's vote please.

1663
00:57:53,169 --> 00:57:54,270
Okay. We'll tell her.

1664
00:57:54,270 --> 00:57:57,941
Thank you.

1665
00:57:57,941 --> 00:57:59,208
We'll need the reporter to step

1666
00:57:59,208 --> 02:00:03,329
outside.

1667
02:00:03,329 --> 02:00:07,300
We're coming back in the open.

1668
02:00:07,300 --> 02:00:08,000
Yeah. Raise your.

1669
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:24,984
Hand.

1670
02:00:24,984 --> 02:00:28,087
Okay. Welcome back. I have a

1671
02:00:28,087 --> 02:00:28,854
motion.

1672
02:00:28,854 --> 02:00:29,922
I'd like to make a motion to

1673
02:00:29,922 --> 02:00:31,123
approve the closed session

1674
02:00:31,123 --> 02:00:33,059
minutes for August 3rd.

1675
02:00:33,059 --> 02:00:33,926
Second.

1676
02:00:33,926 --> 02:00:34,960
We got a motion on a second.

1677
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:41,900
Please vote. And I'll entertain

1678
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:45,738
a motion to adjourn. I've got a

1679
02:00:45,738 --> 02:00:50,209
motion on a second to adjourn.

1680
02:00:50,209 --> 02:01:02,554
All right. Thank you.