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All right, 7 o'clock. I'll call to the meeting. We have four or five members. Let's rise for the pledge of allegiance, public on the silence. A pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you

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maybe seated.

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Start off tonight. Previous meeting minutes. Sherry circulated the

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July 21st, 18 minutes. I reviewed and did not see anything that he was

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corrected and anyone else.

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Second. I've got approval in a second. All those in

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favor vote on. The post. Let the record show we put those minutes five zero. Go to

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town staff reports, Jason, I got a few things here in front of me.

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I'm going to be able to roll through those and you give updates.

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Okay, I've got to demo you regarding any permutation of this board.

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Just a resignant.

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Just a resignant?

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No, no.

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You already did that, but they sent a different copy.

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Okay.

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The number of signatures are on.

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They want me to have your resignant.

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Okay.

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You don't have to fill that one.

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Didn't know if this was a new one for the year.

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No, that's not.

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Thank you for clarifying.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Well, if that one doesn't number one through real quick.

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We've got a sell some property.

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Yes, the sale of the old water plant property.

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We've had a couple different officers.

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And then the realtor had a meeting to show it.

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And while she got out of her car and was showing it,

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there were two other people looking at it.

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So the person that she was there to show it to you said there's no point showing any more

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I'll go full price.

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And there was no haggling the other people got in the car on the left and we accepted a full

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price offer 288.

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Fantastic, so it will be gone as of Thursday.

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That's great.

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So what I have here in front of us tonight is a resolution approving the sale of the Retire

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of water plant at 4910 East Highway 136. This is the town is negotiating the

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sale of the property for a purchase price for the property of 288,000 subject to

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the deduction from the purchase price of customary closing costs payable by

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the town and the broker commission in the amount of $7,200 shareable or resolution

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number before this.

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So this will be resolution number 2026-16. We execute the

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I believe that resolution is to give me the consent to close it.

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Yes.

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It would be an authorization would be you or myself to service,

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authorize and execute and close in the property.

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So council, any questions about the resolution?

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Good resolution.

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My second.

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Okay.

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I got a motion to approve resolution by Bill's Larry seconds it.

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Always in favor vote aye.

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Aye.

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Alright, those pose. Let the record show me for this 5-0 40

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,000 acre.

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That's it. That's very good.

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How many acres of it?

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Six, a little over six.

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You have to point six to one.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Yeah, there it is.

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Alright.

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Local gentlemen.

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Yeah.

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You're going to build two homes on it for a dollar.

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On the money.

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That's planned.

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And then I had a lot of luck with it and that's very stuff for me.

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Non-town.

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We've got to go to the county, let's try it, wash our hands of it.

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Council also here tonight, we've got a resolution around the release of town easement rights,

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a part of our grain easement of sewers and water mains, and our park that was recorded in December 12th and 1997.

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Jim, you might want to give a little bit more insight if not Jason can.

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Jason might have to help me out.

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I don't have the lot of, there was an easement given when the, I believe it's when the property was owned by

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Mac McNaught, I don't know if you remember, he was the president of Denison Parking and

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he was a big one west or a rooted guy, smart guy. So, Carol Clark granted him an easement

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early on and his development of that and then nothing really happened with the easement,

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We sold the property to Arc Park LLC candycares and then there was plated and the plated

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dedicates right away in utility units so this is what's really just kind of really

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encumbers in the wrong ways so there's already used ones built into the plated probably

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we should have done this when we did the plated yeah they were just more of a larger blanket

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at the original.

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Does that tie your hands any with the easement is actually, well, not all of it, but most of it is what is underneath the parking lot on the south side of the building.

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Our pipe is still in the dirt in its own easement protected. I would just think of the option that I have in another.

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We've still got it like a thank you for it.

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And you have used it in the same size of the plot.

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I kind of look close, but I

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just need to keep all the

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adoptions open and you've talked about it.

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Sure.

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The head helps.

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I've been in the directions.

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My location.

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Any other questions from Council?

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If not, this would be Resolution 17, correct, Sherry?

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Yes.

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Council, I'd make the motion be approved.

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Resolution number 2026-17.

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I mean, releasing the easement rights, the grant of easements for certain water

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maids in our park recorded in December 12, 1997, that's written.

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Got a second for Bill.

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All those in favor, vote out.

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Hi.

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All right.

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Those folks.

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Let the record show we prove this five, zero.

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Jason, what else do you have for us this evening?

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All right.

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I'm sure you got to last one for me.

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OK.

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Scotty, anything else to add in?

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Slide your report.

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In other words, the code I sent for the cameras we had talked about last meeting got

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that back from the company so basically what it is, the cameras are sold for $250 a year, you sent it for a year contract and then it's about $1,000 for installation of the 10,000,000 to 10,000,000 to 50,000 for a three year contract.

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Chief, we're going to have night out sometime in the latter part of September or October.

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That's the first Tuesday of October.

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You said 10, 7, 50 for three years?

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Yes.

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Are we affected by the recent hub hub?

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We have not been.

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They said that they were flocks were changing their terms.

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Oh, yeah, they're, they're doing a lot of, they're doing, that's, that's, that's to come,

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that's yet to be done yet, but yeah, it'll, it'll be, I thought they already actually

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underlined. Not yet now. I think it's got a good line, Dave, I forget what it was. It's a future date,

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not too far off. Yeah, so there's some things coming to end of the month, some things coming in

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I'm not very sympathetic to these.

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No, it really does.

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We don't do a lot of sharing.

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A lot of has to do with sharing of the information

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across the country.

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We don't do.

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We have very little of that.

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I did hit Pearl, so I'm apparently.

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So, yeah, a lot of the change will be administrative stuff to where we can monitor usage more and the internal type things.

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That's what's going to be a lot of the changes that

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we're talking about camera itself.

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If that has nothing to do with license plate reading whatsoever, and it doesn't have a capability as a simply just let's say a company

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It's the same one cameras that we have

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And this is the same plus new at newly added correct Scott. I'm sorry. This is the same dark same set up and then we're newly added

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Yeah, it's the same cameras that we've put up in the park, it's just having one to get

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intersection there, to the light.

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Yeah, if it's true.

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So we're going to move along at.

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We've had this conversation.

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Well, I decided to get in here for their car.

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Never mind.

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It's our place.

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It's our place.

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when we ask, do a different location in the park?

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Council

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and other questions pertaining to this quote,

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that's going to be my next question.

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Funding source?

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Well, we've discussed the last meeting.

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Jason had some VH funds, or my question was in VH.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if I got the answer, but that was my question.

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We talked about unrestricted in VH.

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That would

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be the only way that we would be able to do this.

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We don't have anything in there.

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And this is reoccurring every three years or is it an annual payment?

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So, no, the 10-750 would be for three years, I believe.

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And then it'd be 3250.

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So we had to allocate out under strict to 3250 every year.

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10,000 to start with.

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After three years, 3250.

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Do you remember that?

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Well, what we're going to do is

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We're going to do this right now because I'm assuming based off this conversation nobody

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followed up with our advisors on this piece, so I'm going to send him an email right now

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and ask him if we can use it's potential to use NVH.

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For intersection surveillance, so we call it.

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We should get that answer first.

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We do on Friday.

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Okay, let's get an answer on this before

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we approve.

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Can Sherry and Scott have you both

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to see seat on this as well?

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Okay.

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We all get an answer.

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Okay.

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What else got forced gotten?

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Um, other than the, um,

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or is that like nothing else?

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Mm-hmm.

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I got it.

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Yeah, I got it.

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That's where it sounded to you.

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Yeah.

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That's why I was digging in my phone.

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It's like I saw that quote.

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So I did dig through and find it.

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That's all right.

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Sorry, I didn't get a copy.

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All right.

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Sherry, what are you up for?

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I don't know if it'll be 30, 60, 90 day lists.

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I mean, we have nobody in the 90s.

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They're all shut off.

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They're just on three shut off from June, July, and August.

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They've been off the water.

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So now my next tackle is the 60-day call.

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And there's a few that I can really concern about that are getting up there.

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But can I ask a quick question?

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I know we only look at account numbers, but can you tell me are these three residential?

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Well, one is commercial.

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One is commercial.

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Okay.

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And the other one is, are you talking about the $1200 one?

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Well, I'm just talking about all of them.

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We've got one that's been off since June.

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Oh, no, those are all three residential.

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All three are residential.

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But the other one, one of them has been off before, for six months.

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I don't know.

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Since June, with no water, how has the health of our level?

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It's what I would be, it's like at this point, I would feel like the health part of these would be engaged, because it's not, this is not a matter of like they've been like a week or so. No, it's too much. Yeah, we're talking two months. And I think they have a relative list of close by, maybe they're going out there showering some, I don't know, but they did it before for six months. Yeah.

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So the two big accounts, well, no, that was already all. One of those.

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$1,300. That was a leak. I have a leak, an ongoing leak and they are fixing it. So the other two

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big accounts for the 30 days. One is a business, the one is a residential.

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And there's one residential

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is always high. I don't know what he does, but it's high.

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Well, let's start doing another

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I'm not sure.

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I'm going to shut off.

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Yeah, I'm going to start by.

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Anything else for sharing?

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I do.

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April sent over, building and planning department for Miprefour.

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They had 20.

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Let's see here.

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A lot of this is going to be here.

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had a new house at 318,000 and 34 had an accessory structure commercial permits 4,420,000

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commercial building remodel with 20,000 fencing and then totaling $52,773 some other miscellaneous

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permits $35,900, assigned for $500, and then a swimming pool $103,000, so totally

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down to $495, excuse me, $499,000,

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and then with its inspection-wise, Shane went out,

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and we completed 51 inspections during the last month.

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I feel like I need to back up to the last five or the previous a second, go for it.

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To those multiple months of shuttle, what's the procedure there, Jim?

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I mean, three or four people said why is the board of health not know this, but do we get

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to 60 days and then we call the board of health and say go to a wellness chair?

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I mean, there's no exact procedure.

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I think you can call the board of health.

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I don't think it's going to be a problem.

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We don't have a team's at the health problem.

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I don't feel like.

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I don't think we have anything in our room.

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There's no way that no.

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I mean, it's not my deal to say.

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You just say at least hit the board of health.

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I don't we don't know anything but it's been three months

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and then let them make the decision.

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Care.

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I'm at the county where they have a serious district

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and they don't have water, so the cans are on the water.

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They go out and flood clean out.

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I'm aware of that.

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Yes, that's the eight out of the apartment walls.

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But I know for a fact, well, I don't know these people,

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but I have seen in the past.

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I have watched more bottled water go in to a house

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that I knew was shut off.

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Probably more bottled water per month than

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what their water bill would cost.

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And they were gallon jugs.

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And the answer that I got when I asked the question was,

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we're using it to flush our toilet.

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and I'm like, well, why would you just pay your bill?

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Why are you buying a $3 down the water?

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Right.

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So I mean, if they're still flushing, they're toilet.

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Boarding up may not do any matter.

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Right, I mean.

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Yeah, must not take a chance.

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I don't think we're equipped knowledgeable

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or even really in that business of deciding

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what's the board of health problem.

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That's my concern.

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We're not in that business.

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so you just call them and you think it's potentially a problem.

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Does that still hurt in public?

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So I don't know what we do.

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We know even though that.

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I don't think so.

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I don't know what I'm thinking of.

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There wasn't a grandchild there a few years ago, but I don't know if she's still there.

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I would say that if we have a shut off for more than 30 days,

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it probably ought to be just sending a notice at that point.

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Because the thing is you don't want to do it every time you're shutting off,

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We need to have a little bit of time because people have the ability to come in to pay, but I think probably in 30 days if you can

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send a call, this make a call or give them an address, and at least at that point we've done

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what we feel is due diligence if anything. I better mean I wouldn't do it any sooner than that, and the

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way that it's a one time, because if they wanted to go longer and help part of them come out, at least we can say that

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on our conscience we've contacted. So, is there nothing?

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I mean, if there's obvious issues, then, you know, the house, you might send a long

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portion of it to a welfare check and not see, because it could be crime committed in

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that business.

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What's our authority on the electric, I don't know if it's going to water this in X,

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do we turn the lights off?

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Why don't we move to that?

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I believe we do.

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I mean, some of these don't have our electric.

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Yeah, I'm going to be in the past shelf, electric, when it's 12-3 hot out too, and they

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pay right right now.

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But this thing only I don't think can do that.

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I'm not, I'm not, I'm making a general question I guess, but I don't need to do it too much.

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I think you can.

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Can we do that in 90 degrees outside?

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I can't at the wintertime.

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But can you do that in the summer?

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There's a heap when two.

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Jim, you said that there isn't.

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There isn't.

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trying to figure out what the time frame was.

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It's new.

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It is.

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I'm going to try to see if I can find it.

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I'm going to try to find it.

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That's what I don't want to shut down the electric.

331
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I get it.

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But when we decided we'd run the bank,

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I'm sure it would

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be more of a median

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in terms of second chances.

336
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Yeah.

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All right.

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This is the first time for that house, either.

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Premium, actually.

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I remember you, Jason, said, if I'm wearing a favorite, I'm going to be able to pay it right

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away.

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The

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House and the Rule of Act 2002 is

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I'm not reading, I'm not reading, I'm not reading

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this summer here.

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I just can make prohibiting electric shutoffs within 48 hours of the National Weather Service

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forecast and heat in the next of 95 degrees tram height or higher. And that potential

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applies between June 1 and September 23.

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And the other one goes in effect November.

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So you got one month? Basically. Yeah. And then you get a couple of months

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in the spring. Yeah. Yeah. But that was one of the reasons

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they put this in because there was shut off during the hot weather. And they had

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and then come in and change that, so.

354
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Yeah.

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There's lots of data that he'd indexed and he's going to be 95.

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Coming up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like, for example, this next week, yeah.

360
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Yeah, we should, we would have an opportunity

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if we wanted to go through through the electric.

362
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And what happens if they're honest?

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We've got to be on the machine and we'll be sure they're electrical.

364
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The sound's horrible, but with it is that they are,

365
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We don't know what's happening on the inside of the firewalls.

366
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I agree with you like when you have medical devices and stuff, I understand that piece.

367
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Actually, do you have a list of medicals?

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We do.

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That's for generators in case they do lose power.

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To me, that would be, if you had to have that empty machine that bad, you should have a

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letter down on when the fire goes out, you should be on the generator list.

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I agree.

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I think for this to apply, they have to be a member,

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they have to participate and be approved by the Lightheap Program.

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So it's not a blanket, parents?

376
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No.

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I'll give this more light, too, right?

378
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Yup.

379
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Yup.

380
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Well, I think we should probably move forward with some electrical

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and some of these, where we can, next week,

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why it's cooler, maybe that'll generate some buzz.

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And also with it, if people are needing it,

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they can get owner-generated, let's do.

385
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That's another way to provide them protection, so I'm

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sure you got anything else for us.

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Scott Smith's an over-and-update.

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He's been spending a lot of focus here recently, helping out with the parks department on getting their

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update completed regarding park reservations and calendars as well, so I've been getting updates there.

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moving into town committee reports, BCA did not meet regarding fire board

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bill sent over the reports, building anything most room to add.

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Parts and

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wrecks sent over their reports. Anything else you want to add?

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Please

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commission anything to add from the office meeting? No. All other boards and

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commissions did not meet so we'll turn to Eric. I spent a lot of time this past month

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looking at flows to the treatment plant and listings and how to open that sort

398
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everything and have a pretty good idea

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where the infiltration is coming from

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and I'm going to talk to Jason about

401
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and sometimes maybe this fall

402
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that we're going to do in some of my planning.

403
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Starting probably next month,

404
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get working on the community crossings.

405
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Application is still on the silver.

406
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Been working on the low pressure

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for us mainly for the property out west

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of the holes in C&J

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and trying to get approval of our law that they're wrapped up, and if that's a

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misuse, they're rectified now, so it should be open I would say within the next two

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weeks, two and a half weeks.

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A few questions for Eric,

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not really appreciate the updates. All right let's move

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to the old business. Trash and sanitation regulator were in the case of the

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no figures on the table.

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All right, move into administrative subdivision ordinance recommendation

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from the APC. We reviewed, started reviewing this last month. We had some questions about

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some of the content within the administrative subdivision. Aaron's here tonight to help kind

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of discuss some of that through the application process. I want to go over a little bit of

420
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,720
how some of that information is being added into the application?

421
00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:56,840
Yeah, so within the application, I would work on when you guys reviewed it at the last

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00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:04,440
meeting. There were some questions about the legal description and some of the stuff

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00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:10,180
that would be actually handled within the application itself. So now they have an application

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or with your approval, we'll have an application to follow.

425
00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:16,080
And it's step one, two, three, four.

426
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And it tells us everything that they need to present to us

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and the process of going about choosing

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the administrative sub-division.

429
00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:26,280
I don't want to say it.

430
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,720
Did you guys get that printed?

431
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,700
Yes, yes.

432
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,320
I don't have it in my stack.

433
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,120
I don't have it in the original.

434
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,660
I have the original ordinance, but I don't have the application.

435
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,240
I did not print the application because I did it last week or last month or it's Friday.

436
00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:45,120
You would not last month?

437
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This is revised.

438
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Yeah.

439
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:48,340
I just sent it out.

440
00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:49,840
I did not print it again.

441
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,260
Last.

442
00:28:51,740 --> 00:28:52,440
I think it was.

443
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Yeah, you just sent it out last week or the week before?

444
00:28:58,660 --> 00:28:59,040
Yes.

445
00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:01,240
I have to take it for you now.

446
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:06,060
No, I could have done all the site plan and all the information.

447
00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:06,540
Yes.

448
00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:16,440
Yes, it has everything with our normal application process when somebody does something like a minor subdivision or major plots, subdivision, it would fall the same process

449
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,880
except it's not going to be reviewed by the agency. How about I give it back to you to get the hiring.

450
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,540
You know your changes faster and I will be able to think about it.

451
00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:30,100
So basically, the applicant will fill out this application,

452
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,840
they'll come in and they'll meet with me and, or Jason,

453
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and we'll go over the application

454
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and their fault process on why they want to stop the issue.

455
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:41,060
We'll go through there.

456
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We'll tell them all their fees.

457
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And then they'll get started gathering all their information.

458
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,000
They'll go through the steps of getting their aerial location

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00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,400
map.

460
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They'll get us any electronic drawings.

461
00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:58,260
to also be the site plan or legal description for us.

462
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,420
And then they'll submit it back to us, and we'll review. If they meet all the requirements,

463
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or if they meet the applicable actions, which are the merging of the common ownership lots,

464
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the splitting a lot, and merging its pieces with two or more adjacent lots, the adjusting

465
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the law lines, subdividing the duplex lot, creating non-developable land for utilities and

466
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infrastructure and a lot of easement. If they meet one of those, then they'll be eligible

467
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to go through the process and then we'll just handle it in-house. There'll be a nominal,

468
00:30:36,540 --> 00:30:41,620
I guess not nominal, but there'll be a small fee, which is a lot less than what we would

469
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:48,860
charge for like a minor or major subdivision. And the process takes a lot less time.

470
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So, in the past, in my, I would say, within the last year that I've been here, this could

471
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have saved us probably a handful of times, and I know there's a couple of things that

472
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:09,500
will be coming into my office that this will also handle.

473
00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:17,280
So the process with this is once it has approved, I will report to the ABC at the next scheduled

474
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600
me and let them know what we've heard,

475
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but this will be a change in the UDL.

476
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Right.

477
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:35,700
And so with this as well, I think it'd be important to know is that one thing I would suggest

478
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:42,160
is on this ordinance, Exhibit A gives a summary of like more of the, I would consider this

479
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,060
like the Exhibit A is the definitions, the Exhibit A would be what goes into the UDL, correct.

480
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:52,560
So it's the definitions, but however though with the ordinance, we probably need to amend

481
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,760
the ordinance to also note exhibit B because exhibit B is the actual application that's utilized

482
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for these necessary items and with it as well as that that helps address some of the common

483
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,740
concerns that we brought up during last month's meeting. So I would like to actually include that

484
00:32:09,740 --> 00:32:16,380
application as exhibit B in this ordinance so we have them married together. I think it would be the

485
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:23,860
the best. I don't want to do that. I had it. I was very impressed, very close for you,

486
00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:29,260
but all close. Yeah. Criteria, the application. The only

487
00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:34,090
one that I really still have a hard

488
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:35,690
burden with is

489
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easements,

490
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,140
number six, section D, number six.

491
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,040
That was modifying a flat

492
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,380
that an easement were agreed to by all the best of parties.

493
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,380
Does that include the utility?

494
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640
It could be any easement.

495
00:33:12,340 --> 00:33:15,820
So if we wanted to shrink our utility easement or grow our utility easement,

496
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,800
we could do that and do something like that.

497
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:21,600
Like I said, it's going to have to get approved by myself.

498
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,640
And I'll rip you things with Jason.

499
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,680
So if it's not a good idea, then we're not going to sign off on it.

500
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:42,580
I ran into a situation a few years ago in Indianapolis, and there was a treatment that was going to be vacated, and I had requested a favor of a big range.

501
00:33:43,480 --> 00:34:01,100
I ran as well, ready to go, parties, agreed to it, and there was a little coaxial cable from AT&T in that evening, because it was going to be until the evening, and prevented us from continuing on.

502
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:06,360
And if it was a rather drawn out, it was a bit of a proposition to

503
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:10,890
give it to that kind of situation.

504
00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:12,770
So was it a joint easement?

505
00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:17,710
It was a drainage and utility easement because of what it was titled.

506
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:23,830
And on the other side of that easement, we had a agreement with that subdivision

507
00:34:23,830 --> 00:34:25,950
a little commercial subdivision.

508
00:34:27,170 --> 00:34:28,390
So it was a small fire?

509
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:29,430
Yeah.

510
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:38,270
Yeah, nobody knew that the table was empty, easement, still dedicated as a utility of

511
00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:38,530
range.

512
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:45,230
The parties on both sides were in agreement as a range infrastructure being deployed into

513
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:45,570
the Earth.

514
00:34:48,270 --> 00:34:54,590
I just wanted to do an AT&T transfer out of the co-active table.

515
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,120
I was several months away from the project.

516
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:06,940
That's all.

517
00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:10,300
Why don't we, well let me ask you this, Gary.

518
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,100
It just would have been beneficial then at that point in that particular instance to have

519
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,000
like a utility locator to come up to.

520
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,120
Sure.

521
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,880
They want to launch it there.

522
00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:24,940
So in a situation like this, we could potentially

523
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:29,720
have a utility locator come out and complete an assessment

524
00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:33,860
on our easements to resolve issues like that,

525
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,120
that are potentially even any easement.

526
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,120
We may know of our utilities.

527
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:41,120
But with it, is that what if there's something there

528
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,040
that we're not aware of?

529
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:43,580
And I'll take it one step farther.

530
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,520
We don't know the utilities plans.

531
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,780
That's true. I have to be a TV asker or one of them. Sure.

532
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,860
That may be counting on distribution and infrastructure.

533
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:56,260
The one in there is my shirt.

534
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:05,600
So I would ask that we give a sign off from any participant of any

535
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480
whether current or future.

536
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:10,940
That they agree with vacation.

537
00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:11,860
put

538
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:21,960
that in the application, like it's a language, that the sign orders.

539
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:23,700
My question would be,

540
00:36:27,930 --> 00:36:33,730
if it's our easement, even if we vacated what would have been our

541
00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:38,830
during the easement, wouldn't it be their responsibility to secure their own easement?

542
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,080
Well, you see what I'm saying?

543
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,140
Yeah.

544
00:36:43,660 --> 00:36:47,340
It's not our job to protect an easement for another utility.

545
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:56,420
Well, a lot of times a drainage and utility is established when the subdivision is established.

546
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,100
And so...

547
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,200
But then utilities come thereafter.

548
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:06,920
Yes, everybody else.

549
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:10,020
So the easements are quicker stuff in those easements.

550
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,420
Let's say, Randy and I have a piece of property.

551
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:14,640
There's an easement for him.

552
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:18,000
But we don't want it.

553
00:37:18,340 --> 00:37:18,780
We don't want it.

554
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:19,140
We don't want it.

555
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:31,260
And we vacate that easement and it's been a right of TDS and they've got an infrastructure

556
00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:33,400
plan to come down through there with fiber.

557
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:41,960
They have to let us know that's in their plans and we have to acknowledge that before

558
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,260
we can say, yes, they can vacate that easement.

559
00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:50,340
So I guess I have another question for Jim when that easement is recorded

560
00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:59,480
Who's the ownership of it? Well, there's two kinds there's two primary kinds of easements because if you're not the sole owner

561
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,100
We wouldn't have the right to vacate

562
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:09,820
So it's two kinds of easements. There's ones that are dedicated as part of a plot

563
00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:16,400
can persons rely upon that dedication because the plan becomes a matter of record

564
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:24,140
as recorded and as it is, and then there's standalone easement documents that are one party

565
00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:29,480
created, another party in an easement, either as part of a sale transaction or otherwise,

566
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,620
and those are a matter of record and the town can't extinguish those.

567
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:39,020
That's what I don't think, and why is it even in that?

568
00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:41,580
We can't extinguish their rights.

569
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,360
That would be up to the proximal owner.

570
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,080
So basically number six needs stripping.

571
00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:47,340
That's what I think, all right.

572
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:49,660
Yeah, I don't think we can extinguish

573
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:51,200
so much easement rights.

574
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,620
And we should be very careful about granting release

575
00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:56,920
of any of our easements.

576
00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:57,500
Correct.

577
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,420
I think the only thing we could do

578
00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:03,260
is we could release easements that are solely ours.

579
00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:07,780
But most of those, most subdivisions, the utility

580
00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:13,760
and the easements are, you know, I don't know how big they are, but they're big enough

581
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,500
for those multiple utilities.

582
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:21,940
I mean, a lot of times you'll have to, everybody's pipes will go through the same 25 feet.

583
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:22,580
Right.

584
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,660
Yeah, I agree with the idea.

585
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,720
We should probably strike six from it.

586
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:27,500
Yeah.

587
00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:30,440
There's no question.

588
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:42,940
So the yeast that runs across what's known as the Serbian state, and then it goes to the dominant state, which is the person who might be using that.

589
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080
And that's more for an ingress, egress, kind of.

590
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,500
I mean, it should be a procedure like we just saw with the art part.

591
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,800
Instead of this, it should be that process.

592
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,660
And for dedicated ones, as part of a plan, you have to fakeate those things.

593
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:10,100
So you got to go through a 36, 7, 4, 12, or 13, something like that.

594
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,540
If I had filed a petition, I have a public hearing, this is a litigation.

595
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:20,270
It should be an unusual event to hear what you're using.

596
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:30,290
I think we can do something out of trouble if we strike it.

597
00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:33,850
So I say we present the administrative subdivision ordinance

598
00:40:33,850 --> 00:40:37,150
as we're in striking number six from the list.

599
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:38,270
I think it makes it easier.

600
00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:42,350
Sheriff, we need to wait at number four and head in to be.

601
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:44,290
I thought we were going to make sure we signed it.

602
00:40:44,410 --> 00:40:46,210
This didn't have it noted, so I wanted to make sure.

603
00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:47,310
Oh, nine.

604
00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:47,830
Okay.

605
00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:48,530
Okay.

606
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:53,730
So council, we'll make the motion.

607
00:40:53,950 --> 00:40:57,270
I'll make the motion to approve ordinance number 202609

608
00:40:57,710 --> 00:40:59,850
with the, which is an ordinance of many,

609
00:40:59,870 --> 00:41:01,510
the unified development ordinance for county,

610
00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:03,830
this girl for administrative,

611
00:41:03,830 --> 00:41:06,830
for any administrative subdivisions with the following edits.

612
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:08,710
In exhibit A,

613
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:13,650
section V, item six,

614
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:16,330
plead at easement will be stricken from the exhibit,

615
00:41:17,090 --> 00:41:20,330
and also will be adding the exhibit V,

616
00:41:20,590 --> 00:41:23,970
which is the application for administrative subdivision

617
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:27,890
that will be associated with the formal ordinance.

618
00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:29,150
Second.

619
00:41:29,590 --> 00:41:30,190
Got a second.

620
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,450
All those in favor vote aye.

621
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:37,010
Alright, those pose. Let the record show. We've proved this 5-0.

622
00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:43,550
Okay.

623
00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:49,010
Aaron, why are we with this? Is that do you have those feedback changes?

624
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:50,830
Because I don't have it here in front of me. Sure.

625
00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:52,990
Do you have the feedback changes?

626
00:41:53,330 --> 00:41:54,310
I know

627
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,140
we held off on them because we didn't.

628
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,860
Yeah, we're saying it was last time.

629
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:07,750
I'm going to go on into my last month's meeting as well.

630
00:42:10,580 --> 00:42:11,200
Let's see if it's in there.

631
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,840
I

632
00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:19,990
think maybe two meetings ago was talked about in the discussion.

633
00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:28,710
Forgive me, I think Bill may have said he thought they were like, I agree, I thought they were like, I don't think you were disgusted.

634
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:29,370
Okay.

635
00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:32,110
Jinger resolution, that's my recollection.

636
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:38,440
For my message is to download it.

637
00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:41,430
Because you're right, I think it was in June.

638
00:43:02,020 --> 00:43:05,820
We'll come to that. I just wanted to see if not, I was going to have him potentially print that.

639
00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:08,680
but let me go jump on my laptop, okay.

640
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:13,080
All right, let's move into the next item of

641
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,620
the whole business, it's a interview

642
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:16,960
of our park abamance council.

643
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:21,760
I did work with Mr. Kiers, he did help us out

644
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,560
with providing some corrective action plans.

645
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:29,860
With that in review, we have four of those.

646
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,620
And with it, I will just guy set those over, and I apologize for not sending them

647
00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:37,920
soon.

648
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:46,880
When we last met last month, we had four properties that we were discussing about potential

649
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,160
corrective action plans.

650
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,480
And I will go through those in order.

651
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,800
81 west cam drive.

652
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,260
With it, what we had is, is that's just a quick recap.

653
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:10,760
In the original abatement application, it was noted as 31 jobs and it's going to be salaries

654
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:20,240
of 2.3 million, what we have is we have 19 current jobs in an annual salary of 1.5, 1

655
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,880
five hundred and six thousand five hundred and six and six. So there's a shortfall in jobs

656
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,340
by 12 individuals in a wage gap of five hundred and seven thousand nine hundred and

657
00:44:30,340 --> 00:44:37,220
three dollars. This is to put this together stated that with the 81 West PM drive was a

658
00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:44,640
spec building when it completed when he applied it is a one-minute occupant which is real power

659
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:51,680
in there. So with it is that in this it's going to be, it's not like it's vacant space.

660
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:59,180
It's a needing to fill it. And then this particular instance, it is an individual who is

661
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980
In serving as a tenant in this space, given there's not much where he can add in jobs in a corrective action plan. They can't force an employer to be able to add more. My suggestion would be as a review with financial solutions group to see if there's any alterations that need to be made to the pavement schedule, based off the figures and employers that we have here. I haven't had chance to connect with them, but I would like to discuss with them and

662
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:34,160
statement to September's meeting so we can get feedback from them on this particular

663
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,980
instance. Any questions about 81 West Cam drive and taking next steps on this action?

664
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:45,240
Are we lucky to have a baby on the 26th, baby on the 27th?

665
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,520
Correct. Yes. No

666
00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:55,860
further action will table this one until next month so we can get some feedback

667
00:45:55,860 --> 00:46:06,020
from the 91 West came drive. There's a current shortfall of just two positions, but a

668
00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:17,520
salary shortfall wage gap of $8,9,436 to $16. This building does have vacant space and

669
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,700
they're currently advertising to get tenants into these vacant spaces. In this one, I would

670
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:28,740
recommend that we would proceed with the correct abaction plan. Honor is

671
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:35,020
abatement for the 26 pay 27 as scheduled and with it revisited here from now

672
00:46:35,020 --> 00:46:40,080
to see if those have those current vacancies have been able to be filled for

673
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:45,160
a

674
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,420
second. I just want to make it a recommendation. We'll come back to after I read

675
00:46:49,420 --> 00:46:58,100
through them. So one on one West Cam drive this is a similar situation where they

676
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:04,340
have vacant space right now with it is that there is 11 job shortfall and then

677
00:47:04,340 --> 00:47:10,120
with it is that there's about a $2 million wage gap with it is that one of

678
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:16,620
the tenants Hessian's here has a lot of part time and high school students to

679
00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:21,380
help volunteer and assist so with it keeps the salary low but also has vacant

680
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:25,920
space and a couple of sweets that are open so with that being said is that as I

681
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,900
this is one of those as well, where there's a large wage gap,

682
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:33,440
shortfall, hopefully it can be resolved or

683
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,980
at least improved upon vacant spaces. So with that one,

684
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,120
I'm going to suggest we go ahead and honor the

685
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120
abatement and give them a corrective action plan for the next year to resolve

686
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,440
on this particular instance. Then when we get to the last one,

687
00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:52,820
it's the 301 West Camp Drive. This one

688
00:47:52,820 --> 00:48:14,280
is completely occupied by offer of campers with it is that they have 11 employees, so there's a job shortfall of 21 and then with it is that the current average annual salary.

689
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,900
I went back through, I looked in Mr. Kierge, I did look over what was provided.

690
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:30,320
I did contact offer of campers, they did state to me that with it is that their bi-weekly

691
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:38,560
salary is at roughly around 10,000 every two weeks, that's what I was informed today.

692
00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:44,940
So there is a shortfall in it, but so there's still a shortfall in it but they still have

693
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:46,340
the place fully occupied.

694
00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:53,660
So, in it, it's a very similar situation, like with AB1, I would suggest we talk to our

695
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:59,120
financial advisors and particularly alter the evaporation to accommodate what the

696
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,520
actuals are in that particular instance.

697
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:05,080
So, I did talk to them on that particular piece as well.

698
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:13,660
So, Wyndon is that, Sherry, did you bring the CF1s for tonight that we had from last month?

699
00:49:13,660 --> 00:49:16,640
on. Oh yeah. Okay. Here.

700
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,720
Passes over here real quick.

701
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:33,450
Just curious, Sherry, the staff

702
00:50:33,450 --> 00:50:39,570
you gave me are three that we approved last month. You already submitted those to the county

703
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:45,330
auditor. I have two that you approved that I left on my desk.

704
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:49,300
Those I put those were all

705
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:56,160
table. No, I think we've gotten duplicates in here. I think we've got some duplicates in

706
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,900
here because what we have is these four, and I've got those four, plus the others from

707
00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:05,100
last month. I just wanted to make sure these are not signed, and I know I signed the ones

708
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:12,160
last month. So I think you just have duplicates in here. These are ones we've already, these

709
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:18,400
addresses aligned with what we approved last month. So I'll keep those clips separately. We'll

710
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:25,440
double check. So Councilor, I would suggest that we take the, as I noted in a minute ago

711
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:32,700
was I reviewed, gave the review, for 81, in 81 West Cam Drive, in 301 West Cam Drive,

712
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,080
I would suggest we table these until next month, until we can review the corrective action

713
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,920
plan with our financial advisors to see about their thoughts and opinions on revising the

714
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:49,460
abatement structure on those particular instances, because with it, these are tenants that, these

715
00:51:49,460 --> 00:51:53,500
are full tenants that are in there. It's not like they're vacant space where he's needing

716
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:59,300
need to find individuals to move in and see about potentially altering those and try to

717
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:03,020
move on this sooner rather than later so we can speak with Mr. Pierce and give him an update

718
00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:08,820
on what they're advising on. So that would be my recommendation for those two, but for

719
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:14,820
the two to action plan where we know how vacant space and they're moving forward. I would

720
00:52:14,820 --> 00:52:25,820
I would recommend that we approve the abatement for 26 pay 27 for 91 west cam drive formally

721
00:52:25,820 --> 00:52:31,840
known as 103 east cam drive in 101 west cam drive for the schedule as noted with the

722
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:38,380
corrective action plan that these will be reviewed for the 27 pay 28 attached year to see

723
00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:44,120
if these are corrective action plans have been adhered upon and as noted a failure to adhere

724
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:50,840
on it and can potentially alter the abatement schedule at that point. Could give him the opportunity

725
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:58,690
to be able to find tenants to move in. I'll second that. Okay, I got a second. All those in

726
00:52:58,690 --> 00:53:06,530
favor vote aye. Aye. Those opposed. We'll let the record show when we approve these by zero.

727
00:53:07,550 --> 00:53:08,810
Now we'll complete those here.

728
00:53:11,890 --> 00:53:12,450
I'll

729
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,480
pile this up before I forget it. I get it mixed up.

730
00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:31,450
I'll get to I'll get with them hopefully this week and we can get an answer for you so okay

731
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:42,120
Next on the list is did you get the piece? Okay, awesome.

732
00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:46,020
Yeah

733
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:46,700
Okay

734
00:54:03,230 --> 00:54:06,170
We never really reviewed it in the council session

735
00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:10,370
Aaron, so why don't you go over with this because with it

736
00:54:10,370 --> 00:54:17,770
I know you helped calculate these fees. Yes, so I reviewed about five or six other communities and took those

737
00:54:17,770 --> 00:54:19,570
their fees into account

738
00:54:19,570 --> 00:54:24,970
versus ours and a lot of our fees were right on on the money

739
00:54:24,970 --> 00:54:33,210
There were a few though that probably needed an upgrade especially with the new rule come out that we we can't look at

740
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:37,110
or we can't upgrade or we can't increase our fees

741
00:54:37,690 --> 00:54:40,190
unless really justified if we could support

742
00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:42,570
the actual increase behind it.

743
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:45,370
So to get out front of that and to kind of

744
00:54:47,770 --> 00:54:49,270
estimate it for the future,

745
00:54:49,650 --> 00:54:54,090
I proposed increasing our major subdivision primary flat

746
00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:59,650
from $900 to $950, our major subdivision secondary flat

747
00:54:59,650 --> 00:55:07,810
from 900 to 1200, our minor subdivision flat from 700 to 750, our flat amendment from

748
00:55:07,810 --> 00:55:16,770
700 to 750, we would then have the administrative subdivision fee that you guys just put 400 dollars.

749
00:55:18,590 --> 00:55:22,730
And then we included in that document, what's that supposed to be included in that ordinance?

750
00:55:22,730 --> 00:55:28,790
It refers them to talk to planning staff for the fee and refers to the fee schedule.

751
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:39,930
The special exception would increase from $6.50 to $750. The use variance would also increase from $6.50 to $750.

752
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,140
Inspections that are on holidays get increased from $60 to $100.

753
00:55:51,140 --> 00:56:00,940
dollars, site grading and site prep, we struck out, but we changed that residential would

754
00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:04,280
be $30 in commercial and industrial, industrial would be $100.

755
00:56:06,340 --> 00:56:08,800
Other permits that are the miscellaneous

756
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:16,100
permits, carports go up from $30 to $50. Demolition gets broken out, where it's a residential

757
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:21,260
The residential principal structure would be $100 or residential accessory structure would be $75.

758
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:32,700
Commercial principal would be $150. Commercial accessory would be $125. Industrial principal would be $175. Industrial accessory would be $125.

759
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:41,740
Fence permit increases from 30 to 50 and a main barn is increased from 30 to 50 as one

760
00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:47,940
of those patio permit is increased from 30 to 50 and then the sexually oriented business

761
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:56,480
permit just increases to pretty much the standard around which is $1500. Swing will also get

762
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:04,300
It's a small increase from 150 to 250, but it puts us in range with everyone else here.

763
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:04,600
It does.

764
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:09,980
It does put us in range with pretty much everybody else that is in our general area.

765
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,140
There were a couple of outliers that I went a little further out and grabbed.

766
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:15,840
Their fees were actually a lot higher than ours.

767
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:19,160
So we didn't jump.

768
00:57:19,340 --> 00:57:23,560
We didn't increase that much, but we did increase enough that I think

769
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,660
If we were viewing another, you know, two to five years,

770
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:33,720
we're probably going to have moderate to minimal increases at that point.

771
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,080
Okay.

772
00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:37,260
Council, any questions?

773
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:44,700
I think the administrative subdivision that we just approved at $400 as well.

774
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,380
I see very little difference between minor flat subdivision or a flat amendment.

775
00:57:50,380 --> 00:58:04,300
Both of which are 750. It still allows the applicant a more expeditious review, but in terms of your involvement staff reports, the view I see them very similar.

776
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:17,820
So the fault behind that is there's a lot less time. The other plant reviews would include the Plain Consultants time and possibly her assistance time.

777
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:33,520
These walling really include my time. April will be minimal on that. And we won't have as much internal review time where we have to do like tap review meetings or anything like that.

778
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:42,600
So I was actually lower. I think I would came in at 350 and Cynthia had recommended the increase at 400.

779
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,860
So I think we're right out of line with that, but I'm happy to look at it if everybody wants to present.

780
00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:57,640
I mean I can give it with what you just said, I can see where there's like a $300 to $350 difference,

781
00:58:57,860 --> 00:59:02,280
given you're cutting out her time in that particular piece also with it is,

782
00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:06,860
now if there's the fees regarding to like notices and stuff like that as well,

783
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,480
that's not needed for this as you know in this particular instance.

784
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,680
And so, which I know publication fees are not extensive,

785
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:16,800
but also it's a time there for, I think,

786
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,240
more time and effort from her part.

787
00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:19,020
So I don't, yeah.

788
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,720
I mean, if I was going to sit there and say,

789
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,720
if it's not 400, I don't think I can jump all the way

790
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,440
to 750 because I do think there's a lot more work

791
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,280
that goes into my close flats than compared

792
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,640
to what we just outlined earlier in the definitions.

793
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,780
But I mean, could it go up some?

794
00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:45,900
Yes, could I say go up to my 550 and then it's 750 for a flat?

795
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:48,100
I can easily see that too.

796
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:50,020
I'm not.

797
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,440
I think that if you think that you've talked to someone.

798
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,620
Any other questions,

799
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:30,320
council?

800
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:39,320
Chair, we have not introduced this ordinance. So we'll need, uh, so this is ordinance number 2026-10.

801
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:48,080
So tonight introducing ordinance 2026-10 in ordinance of mending and replacing the official

802
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,180
scheduled fees for the town of Pittsburgh Unified Development Ordinance, schedule fees

803
01:00:52,180 --> 01:00:59,920
with the noted amendments, a minute changes to those fees are noted below and this would

804
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:06,220
be effective upon passage tonight if a purge.

805
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:12,420
So that is the reading of the ordinance reads it's effective 180 days after publication.

806
01:01:14,020 --> 01:01:14,820
Oh, thank you.

807
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:16,240
I was looking at the date.

808
01:01:16,420 --> 01:01:16,800
I don't know.

809
01:01:17,020 --> 01:01:17,900
That was not right.

810
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:18,580
I mean, we have to.

811
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,420
We have to.

812
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,900
And I know we have to publish.

813
01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:23,480
I'm not sure about the 180 days.

814
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:26,340
Oh, but maybe I'm going blank.

815
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:27,600
Is that like what I came up with?

816
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:28,020
No.

817
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,340
I think Cynthia drafted that.

818
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:32,220
I don't know about 180 days.

819
01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:35,260
Maybe that's because we were going to make it effective.

820
01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:37,500
of January 1.

821
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,620
Well, it's going to be past the end.

822
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,880
We started it in May.

823
01:01:42,620 --> 01:01:43,940
That's probably what happened, right?

824
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:44,400
It could be.

825
01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:47,990
Let me know.

826
01:01:53,580 --> 01:01:54,960
Do you know of the top of your head?

827
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,900
Aaron, this side to that new statue.

828
01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:03,940
And now, oh, come on.

829
01:02:04,340 --> 01:02:08,520
Would it be beneficial for us just to complete our,

830
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,100
we've just completed our first reading,

831
01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:11,400
and we finalize this next month?

832
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:11,840
That's hot.

833
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,540
Let's just do that.

834
01:02:13,540 --> 01:02:16,980
and we'll get everything corrected and so we know the dates as well.

835
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,620
Also with it is that it's not a it's not official clean copy.

836
01:02:21,820 --> 01:02:24,060
You gave us a red line version. We can take it.

837
01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:25,760
I think the clean copy. Yeah. So we got a clean

838
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,020
and then with it we can say if you might make sure he has this clean as well.

839
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,220
Yep. Then with the will result that issue. So let's go with

840
01:02:33,220 --> 01:02:38,520
how it's a first reading. So speaking of first reading,

841
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,920
so I'm going to do a last bite of the business tonight is that first reading

842
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:49,200
ordinance 2026-11. This is an ordinance for the town of Pittsburgh aligning with municipal

843
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,080
election cycle for all town elected officials only even to the even number general election

844
01:02:54,080 --> 01:03:02,900
years. The town council under Indiana code chapter 3-10-6.5 to adopt an ordinance providing

845
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:09,040
that each elected official municipality is elected at an even number year. With it is at the

846
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,800
the municipal council finds conducting municipal elections

847
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,620
during even number of general election years,

848
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,140
low increased voter participation

849
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:17,900
and per election administration official

850
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:19,740
and to reduce election cost.

851
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,120
So let me read how this would structure

852
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:24,240
on this ordinance.

853
01:03:24,820 --> 01:03:26,460
This ordinance lies to an effects

854
01:03:26,460 --> 01:03:28,540
to the following elected official offices

855
01:03:28,540 --> 01:03:30,040
of the town of Pittsburgh, Indiana,

856
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,880
for the clerk treasure and town council board one,

857
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,940
work two and work three seats.

858
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,160
The current term for these elected officials

859
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:43,260
established under Indian law. Section 3, the two at large town council seats remain unmodified

860
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:47,040
by this ordinance because the term in these positions is already on an even numbered year

861
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:54,520
schedule, including for November of 2026. Section 4, persons to be elected in 2027 for

862
01:03:54,520 --> 01:04:01,160
town council, number 1, number 2, and number 3 seats in the clerk's treasure shall serve a term

863
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:07,080
of a one-year commencing January 1st, 2028 in ending December 31st, 2028.

864
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:14,080
Persons elected to persons to be elected in 2028 for the town council, Ward 1, Ward 2 and

865
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:14,880
Ward 3 seats.

866
01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:21,940
She'll share a term for four years commencing January 1, 2029 in ending December 31st, 2032.

867
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:30,060
The persons elected in 2028 election to the office of Clerk Treasurer, she'll share a term

868
01:04:30,060 --> 01:04:37,900
of two years commencing January 1, 2029 in any December 31, 2030. Section 5, beginning

869
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:44,080
with the general election held in November of 2028 and every 40 years after elections

870
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,660
for the town council members of Ward 1, Ward 2 and Ward 3, the shall be conducted during

871
01:04:49,660 --> 01:04:54,200
the statewide general election, beginning with the general election held in November of

872
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:59,140
20 to 30 in every 40 years thereafter of the elections at the clerk treasurer and

873
01:04:59,140 --> 01:05:04,900
to town council to at large town council seats will be conducted during the

874
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:10,300
statewide general election all persons elected in beginning in 2028 and 20

875
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:16,100
30 shall serve terms of four years commence in January 1st of the year following the

876
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:23,620
election. So that is the first reading of ordinance number 2026-11. Now

877
01:05:24,980 --> 01:05:31,300
At this time, we'll just complete a first reading when everybody can review the purposes

878
01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:37,120
behind this, of introducing this ordinance tonight, and then what's thought to be taken

879
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:43,640
into consideration is that throughout the rest of the county, all other new county municipalities

880
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:48,940
are moving to even number collections, Danville recently just passed their ordinance.

881
01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:53,780
Plain buildings will last, I believe it's being introduced next month or we've just got

882
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:57,400
introduced this past month in their August meeting or if not, it's going to be introduced.

883
01:05:57,820 --> 01:05:59,700
They have two meetings in August.

884
01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:01,620
They're introducing as well.

885
01:06:02,340 --> 01:06:04,520
All of their municipalities are moving through this.

886
01:06:06,340 --> 01:06:13,060
It's confusing, it's a headache to go through this cycle to get on an even year cycle, but

887
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:18,040
with it is that it's helping because number one, there's more election turnout during even

888
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:27,100
years also with it is by moving to this because there's more county-based elections, the

889
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:36,820
cost that the town has to burden for elections is reduced tremendously, but if we stayed

890
01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:43,040
in our current odd-year election cycle, it would cost more for us in the long term.

891
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:48,420
Some counties are going to say they're going to allocate to, and I might say is some

892
01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:54,340
kind of thing, but then it's going to allocate specific costs if you don't go to this.

893
01:06:55,420 --> 01:06:55,600
Yes.

894
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,200
So if you hold that right, I don't know how the traffic cost is, but the county charges

895
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,840
towns, if anybody is in the office of your election, they get charged to do it because the

896
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,920
county isn't having to let it up so I'm sure, so if you have less towns, right, they get

897
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:18,140
the price is going to go up. Yeah so credit across the last election. And why we're not a, we're not the,

898
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:24,440
we're nothing compared to the size. I will just simply note the AIMON record random that was done in

899
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:31,960
2025. Almost close to $60,000 to do that referendum because of the polling sites. Now we are

900
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:38,660
a little township is not as large, but because we had to have so many polling sites based off of

901
01:07:38,660 --> 01:07:41,600
of 10,000 people, it became a huge expense.

902
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,660
And while word, little township is not near that large,

903
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:48,640
we take a fraction of it, we can be out in a rather hefty

904
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,020
amount when it comes to elections.

905
01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:54,120
I'd not have, I hate changing cycles.

906
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,660
I think it works, but with it is that,

907
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,920
we also don't want to be the odd person out,

908
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,400
in potentially being footing the bill.

909
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,560
A lot larger bill for our elections

910
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,400
when we can make a change and go to even number years, so.

911
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,880
But we were awarded our

912
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:20,160
last, because we ran out of puddles.

913
01:08:20,740 --> 01:08:21,220
Correct.

914
01:08:22,060 --> 01:08:25,240
But going forward, you have to pay for that election.

915
01:08:25,580 --> 01:08:28,780
We would have to, and with it, when we just did that primary,

916
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,760
it was still several thousand when we did our one primary,

917
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,900
our last primary, I think it was like $12,000 or something like that.

918
01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:43,940
one to Sherry. It was it was hefty. It wasn't cheap when we did our 20 25 elections.

919
01:08:46,350 --> 01:08:46,510
It was

920
01:08:46,510 --> 01:08:55,410
expensive. It wasn't cheap. So I'm on board with it. I have one question. Sure, paragraph number

921
01:08:55,410 --> 01:08:59,370
four at the bottom. Yes, page one.

922
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:09,660
Will there be an election in 2027 and those individuals

923
01:09:09,660 --> 01:09:18,180
year I and Sherry served one year and then another election the following year or will

924
01:09:18,180 --> 01:09:23,680
our term be extended by one year to expire on an evening year.

925
01:09:23,980 --> 01:09:33,620
So with it is that the three wards which is yourself, myself, Larry and Sherry are up for

926
01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:38,260
election next year no matter what and when we are up for election next year we but all

927
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:55,120
All four of those positions are going to go through election next year and serve out a one year term which is effective January 1 of 2028 and expire in December 31st of 2028.

928
01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:08,020
We all four of those positions would be up for a lecture again in 2028 to then serve a it would then be serving a four-year term.

929
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:17,000
Why don't we just make it three-year term in 2027, have a lecture that will eliminate election

930
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:20,550
in 2028?

931
01:10:21,470 --> 01:10:25,870
can't because then with it all five counsel and clerk treasure would be up for

932
01:10:25,870 --> 01:10:32,930
election in 2030 and you can have a potential clean sweep of all your elected

933
01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:38,570
officials and it's a good it's a concern is that it's that you should have it

934
01:10:39,370 --> 01:10:49,530
staggered no I agree I agree but a guy creates a it creates an issue because

935
01:10:49,530 --> 01:10:52,630
is with it that he have everybody's stacked into one single term

936
01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:55,310
in potential of a complete change over.

937
01:10:56,250 --> 01:10:58,890
With it, I mean, election results are election results,

938
01:10:59,090 --> 01:11:03,390
but the last thing even one is in potential of a complete change

939
01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:04,910
over in an election.

940
01:11:05,810 --> 01:11:08,190
So yeah.

941
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:11,310
So this is just introducing ordinance 2026-11.

942
01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:15,510
The change to the election cycle will whenever

943
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:21,330
made it look it over, think it over, and we'll discuss it again next month.

944
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:33,830
I knew they were coming up. I didn't know when they were at, so I think everybody's

945
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:34,150
doing it.

946
01:11:37,130 --> 01:11:41,010
Okay, at this time, let's go to public comment. If you have any public

947
01:11:41,010 --> 01:11:43,150
comment, come to the podium statement address.

948
01:11:43,150 --> 01:11:44,070
This thing

949
01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:52,910
comes in 7, 7, 2, 2, 3, 3, first off, but last month I forgot that bank April

950
01:11:52,910 --> 01:11:56,970
for going out in the heat and fooling out plat maps from the storage building because

951
01:11:56,970 --> 01:12:00,650
when I asked her to do that, she said, can you wait a couple days to cool down?

952
01:12:00,850 --> 01:12:02,290
I said, yeah, I'm not going to get a deal.

953
01:12:03,170 --> 01:12:09,750
And then last month, maybe Jason can ask you this, do we pay when gas company goes out and

954
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:14,470
does it totally okay? Do we get charged because what happened was Ron Perkins

955
01:12:15,050 --> 01:12:19,530
his yard was marked up and the next day we saw the USIC guy so we asked him

956
01:12:19,530 --> 01:12:23,450
and he gave some name we never heard of and said come out and mark and then we

957
01:12:23,450 --> 01:12:27,370
saw Ron that afternoon and he said well we were talking about doing some

958
01:12:27,370 --> 01:12:32,410
yard work and then later decided she wanted some furniture so you know one

959
01:12:32,410 --> 01:12:38,450
had a problem. Yeah we pay for ticket. So okay so but it turns out he never told the

960
01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:44,470
The landscaper, yes, will go ahead, but the landscaper, apparently, just the advice I'll call

961
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:48,510
I get it done now because of the think they're going to do it, so there's a lot more

962
01:12:48,510 --> 01:12:49,410
than you think there is.

963
01:12:49,650 --> 01:12:49,850
Okay.

964
01:12:50,010 --> 01:12:50,590
I was just curious.

965
01:12:50,730 --> 01:12:54,790
Because 8-1-1 is, if you call it, anybody can call it in to 8-1-1, it's free.

966
01:12:55,170 --> 01:12:55,430
Okay.

967
01:12:55,610 --> 01:12:55,750
Yeah.

968
01:12:56,050 --> 01:12:57,130
And that triggers the locate.

969
01:12:57,890 --> 01:13:03,210
But we actually pay to be a member of the 8-1-1 and we pay per ticket.

970
01:13:04,030 --> 01:13:04,270
Okay.

971
01:13:04,270 --> 01:13:09,230
I just wanted because the US I see guy said that people will when they're getting a quote

972
01:13:09,230 --> 01:13:14,610
Maybe in the book phase and they'll go out and have utilities done. He's gonna have one bit

973
01:13:15,230 --> 01:13:20,970
And I know says that's something we charge or is that built in the utility he seemed to think we didn't pay for the town

974
01:13:22,190 --> 01:13:24,910
Who the US I see guy was talking today

975
01:13:25,490 --> 01:13:30,950
He was marking one of my neighbors is getting treated. We pay for okay. We ended up paying we pay for everyone in focus

976
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:34,590
I thought we did and he said we didn't. He wouldn't have any idea.

977
01:13:37,150 --> 01:13:38,370
He'd better not have anyone.

978
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:43,830
And then I, Eric, you said you were going to have a meeting with Jeff Thompson today.

979
01:13:43,970 --> 01:13:49,790
You got maybe a brief update about lit versus property tax income for supporting our levies in the future.

980
01:13:50,210 --> 01:13:56,190
He told us that there's going to be more changes for the lit.

981
01:13:56,190 --> 01:14:03,110
But he said that the way it's written right now with the past the rates of 28 but not distributed

982
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:09,170
for those rates until 30's been changed, distribution of the rates in 29.

983
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:17,890
He also said that it's going to become where towns like yours are automatically opted into the county,

984
01:14:18,110 --> 01:14:20,030
unless you choose to opt out.

985
01:14:22,270 --> 01:14:26,830
I also mentioned that anybody has taken this under advised and said the way it's written

986
01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:33,850
right now with the live link on taxes is that it's based on 2020 census as to that

987
01:14:33,850 --> 01:14:38,390
that would be a train wreck in this county when the 20-30 census comes out.

988
01:14:39,310 --> 01:14:44,510
Hopefully if it's in the bill I said pick any website there's a million of them that estimate

989
01:14:45,050 --> 01:14:46,670
populations in the wrong pre-close.

990
01:14:46,670 --> 01:14:48,270
They said pretty why he's got to have one.

991
01:14:48,710 --> 01:14:53,150
I said let us use that or the distribution of funds back up in the town, so everything

992
01:14:53,150 --> 01:14:55,570
needs to be as close to where it's actually going to be in 2032.

993
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:57,410
I think like that idea stuff happens.

994
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:59,790
It'll make everything a lot closer.

995
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:12,500
Our current census, we qualified to opt out, right, 35 plus. No, well, actually gave us our own. You can do it. You want to. Yeah. Yeah.

996
01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:14,880
Yeah.

997
01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:31,410
Is that 20, 20 census still support that? Oh, yeah. It just, it just what it does is there are certain towns that get a lot more money per person than others to be towns to, based on the population, how much income tax they receive.

998
01:15:32,270 --> 01:15:43,910
Those certain towns that they opt in which they will because if they do their own taxes are probably not that income in those taxes for their current levels of spending.

999
01:15:44,490 --> 01:15:44,630
Correct.

1000
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:51,500
So once they go into the county tool, we have to have an income tax hide-up if we choose to.

1001
01:15:51,500 --> 01:15:56,600
They'll request an income tax sign-up to maintain the recurrent level of income, and if that happens,

1002
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,820
everybody else except them gets a windfall amount of money coming into the town,

1003
01:16:01,820 --> 01:16:05,640
because the rate needs support of that town that has the highest thing.

1004
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:11,560
This is a very complicated thing that's going to change a lot, but we have the biggest two.

1005
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,800
A year and a half to figure it out, but it's not easy.

1006
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:24,440
And the next must-meeting for the clerk treasures and the county is nice and Wednesday

1007
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:25,040
of September.

1008
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:33,460
We're supposed to come up with an investigation of how I'll assume it would work, but I think

1009
01:16:33,460 --> 01:16:38,020
from the county's perspective, even with Jeff sitting there, we're probably here by

1010
01:16:38,020 --> 01:16:42,700
agree that we're not going to make any recommendations or come up with anything because we're not going

1011
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:47,020
of information currently available to make the soups that may be since anybody who's

1012
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:52,220
as we don't know, in town, bird, and then clean it up, or at all, I was actually working

1013
01:16:52,220 --> 01:16:53,000
in the two years.

1014
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:54,600
Yeah.

1015
01:16:56,700 --> 01:16:57,720
Thanks for your attention.

1016
01:16:59,240 --> 01:16:59,940
Yes, sir.

1017
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:01,680
Eric, we're going to support St. Norfolk.

1018
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:06,620
First of all, thank you, Jason, for getting that flagpulls right now.

1019
01:17:06,700 --> 01:17:10,900
I just also want to thank the council for the fact that I can carry those and thank the

1020
01:17:10,900 --> 01:17:16,900
We're spotted. Also, I'm just curious is there any update on the basketball court? It's got part of it.

1021
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,760
You're up. Yeah.

1022
01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:24,900
Well, we just talked about it. I have a letter to send to them, but Jason, I have just returned.

1023
01:17:25,540 --> 01:17:32,780
He's going to try to get an estimate for the rectifying the problem so we can include it in the demand letters.

1024
01:17:32,780 --> 01:17:39,500
I mean, this is how much it's going to cost. It'll be both the cost of removal because apparently that's the only choice.

1025
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:44,940
removal of the existing kind of grade and then the cost to repair it so that the

1026
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:51,580
contractor understands what they're facing there. Also another quote for

1027
01:17:51,580 --> 01:17:56,040
reparation limited to come take the bull down, us the story and then to come back

1028
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:02,300
reinstall the bull with the backboard. Alright send that to the mayor too. Okay, yep.

1029
01:18:03,140 --> 01:18:03,740
Booted all.

1030
01:18:08,300 --> 01:18:11,660
No other public comment. Go to council comments. Any council members

1031
01:18:11,660 --> 01:18:13,000
any comments for tonight?

1032
01:18:15,530 --> 01:18:19,290
I only have one. I was reading it all for a quick share.

1033
01:18:19,370 --> 01:18:24,610
You received this letter earlier, passed on over to us electronically. I came in from

1034
01:18:24,610 --> 01:18:29,990
the Indian Housing and Community Development Authority regarding Biggs Heartland

1035
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:37,750
Housing with it is that I was talking about. Devovo was going to utilize IRS, low-income

1036
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:41,410
income housing tax credit program for rehabilitation.

1037
01:18:42,110 --> 01:18:44,070
I did speak to the letter author,

1038
01:18:44,290 --> 01:18:45,430
Alan Rukowski today.

1039
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:48,970
This is for pertaining to refurbishment

1040
01:18:48,970 --> 01:18:50,530
of sterling court apartments

1041
01:18:51,470 --> 01:18:53,190
that is gonna be a complete refurbishment.

1042
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:56,090
So it's actually no new developments or anything like that

1043
01:18:56,090 --> 01:19:00,930
and with it they will comply with all permitting of it needs

1044
01:19:00,930 --> 01:19:05,070
in being touched with Aaron in planning on commission

1045
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:09,890
but that'll be certain court who is that's who's needily all this so no need

1046
01:19:09,890 --> 01:19:14,310
to further action on it but appreciate them so now knowing that Jim back to

1047
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:15,590
the water meter we

1048
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,380
had a discussion a couple months ago about a water meter

1049
01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:26,540
starting court apartment we fly right now that we know that's low income

1050
01:19:26,540 --> 01:19:33,010
housing that matter that matter okay toward so that's all mine

1051
01:19:33,010 --> 01:19:35,550
all right

1052
01:19:38,980 --> 01:19:43,860
Jim we got forced you can have it you know I suppose citizens water

1053
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:50,080
may have some rate that they developed, but then the other rate measures are subsidizing.

1054
01:19:50,660 --> 01:19:50,760
Right?

1055
01:19:56,420 --> 01:19:57,300
Have a second, Howard.

1056
01:19:58,380 --> 01:19:59,000
That's a good meeting.

1057
01:19:59,220 --> 01:20:00,120
No, I don't know.

1058
01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:01,360
Was there any coverage there?

1059
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:01,680
No.

1060
01:20:04,590 --> 01:20:05,410
Do you have some claims?

1061
01:20:09,650 --> 01:20:21,090
Counting count from July 20th to August 14th, $647,985,88 cents to our account, same dates.

1062
01:20:21,090 --> 01:20:31,950
$221,000 and $22,000 and $65,000 and the geobahn $52,000, $528 and $70,000.

1063
01:20:37,530 --> 01:20:38,010
Second.

1064
01:20:39,230 --> 01:20:40,590
I got a motion to second.

1065
01:20:40,730 --> 01:20:41,790
All those in favor vote out.

1066
01:20:42,110 --> 01:20:42,310
Aye.

1067
01:20:42,490 --> 01:20:42,670
Aye.

1068
01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:43,990
Those opposed.

1069
01:20:44,630 --> 01:20:46,190
Let's record shall we prove those.

1070
01:20:49,150 --> 01:20:52,310
Next meeting, it will be September 15th.

1071
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:59,350
with it though we have this Friday 8.30 in the morning right here we will be

1072
01:20:59,350 --> 01:21:03,030
doing our annual budget planning for the year so outside

1073
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:07,050
of that if

1074
01:21:07,050 --> 01:21:24,530
nothing else I'll make the motion to adjourn second all those in favor