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Um
well once again uh welcome

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[clears throat] to physio for our second
session of what

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hopefully will become a regular
occurrence.

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I don't think we have I I am the sitting
chairman of the Pittsfield Select Board

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until
struck down by pitchforks and torches.

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But but for a while anyway I get to hold
Gav. Uh but uh I think there are so many

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have mutual interest in our communities
if we ignore the county line that the

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council committ

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» Oh yes before I too far into this we are
going out via YouTube uh so folks in our

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communities
can and share whatever experience it is

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we have tonight. [clears throat]
>> But uh

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» and what's what's your name? Martha.
>> Martha is our owl's name.

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» Martha.
>> Yeah.

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» We it probably would serve a useful
purpose if we went around and introduced

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ourselves again. Uh just cuz we back
here. We we've had enough time since the

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last meeting to forget. Yeah. So,
as I said, I'm Jim Allard, the the chair

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of board for the time being.
>> The chair. I'm Paul. I'm the vice chair.

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» Dave Green
>> and Jim Adams. We're all select Major

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Sylvester the Barn board chair.
>> I'm Gary Madden the vice chair.

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include
the rest of the room too since our folks

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had not been with us before.

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» Good evening everybody. My name is
Frank. I'm a res of

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welcome.

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» You want him to know

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he's in close proximity to where I live.
Okay.

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» You're beginning to sound a bit like
you know the [clears throat] iron works

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doesn't talk to four corners
to the north and south

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manager
>> superintendent public works

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police chiefs

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building.
[clears throat]

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Well, welcome home.

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[snorts]

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» [snorts]
>> probably

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at least it was spam.

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Sorry [snorts] about that.

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Uh
but back to what I was saying there

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there are so many areas potentially
a mutual benefit to talking together

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and working together. I mean the obvious
ones in the public safety arena and then

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they work together routinely anyway. We
don't need we don't need to tell them

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how to do things. But some of the other
things I I'm excited that you're

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standing up economic development
discussions again. I wish we timing was

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a little better. We our uh economic
development committee met at 4:30 in

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this room. So, uh it would have been
good. We could have

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exchange phone numbers or something. But
uh

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as you know I mean we're we're we're
both

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in some sort of economic struggles

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is about

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your town senators are kind of like
ours. They aren't what they want for

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right in terms of
businesses

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and interests.

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» So
there are there are certain things

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that the
[snorts] folks can certainly share and

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talk and learn and grow, you know.

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The thing that always comes to my mind
because uh

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instead of bringing our hands and
ruining the fact that uh highway 28 came

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to the valley 65 years ago, uh you know,
we need to learn to live with 28 and do

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something with it. And uh we probably
need to band together to get the state

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to let go of some of their restrictions
on what can happen longtermly

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because it's our understanding that
actually that was not a state initiative

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to begin with. was a Pfield initiative
that asked the state uh to to close off

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development thinking at the time uh that
it would preserve the downtown.

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Well,
that was a good guess, but not very

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accurate.
And so we turn loose to that and see

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what the real possible is. But uh but
there are many other and probably not so

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difficult uh things that we can do of
mutual interest to

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for the benefit of our citizens

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for some ifstead were to come back to
our schools

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or if we would suddenly go to mountain
that might help out [clears throat]

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people but
>> that's not board's perview. So, I can't

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forget I said that.
>> Yep.

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» That's another board's realm to work
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» well, with the excuse me for
interrupting, but with the outcome of

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the special election last week,
[clears throat] we may be trying to

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pedal our kids somewhere because the
teachers are going to say twice and you

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don't want us. Well, hit the road. And
somebody said, "Well, they'll they'll

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have to pay $1,000 really to go
somewhere else and get 12,000 more."

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» It's a tough concept anyways. I mean,
Bar was facing it when we were going to

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Pittsfield.
>> Sure.

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» You know, the the tuition obviously the
tuition the cost per student was was

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rising all the time. It got to the point
that was like, what's what's more

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feasible here, you know? And that that's
how we ended up where we basically

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» it's amazing what damaged a couple of
arrogant [clears throat] so

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and I'm not talking about our barks and
things. talk about the idiots.

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Well, it's and certainly been a learning
exper my my entire adult life because I

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married a girl from Al
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back in the mid60s when uh Kingswood was
built

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» and uh initially all were supposed to be
a part of all that and then the the wise

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individuals in that town decided not to
be But their partnership with New Durham

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that had been like ours with with you
all that had gone on for more than 100

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years evaporated overnight and
her high school class from like 65 kids

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to 15
overnight

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last year.
And that managed to last all on their

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own until they needed a new building,
>> I think.

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» And then they had to go hunting for you
to make a new building.

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» This consolidation of the school system
should have happened a long long time

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ago. Um these towns are too small um all
the way around to to to fund it all by

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themselves. That's why the taxes are so
high. I mean, that's twothirds of your

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tax is easy,
>> you know. Um, this just should have

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happened a long time ago, but that that
was the past. Now we got to work where

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we go from here.
>> So, is there any particular place on 28

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you'd look for driveway access
potentially or any ideas of what you

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look to try to bring into town?
>> I know you're you're looking at me. I'm

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probably the wrong guy to question.
>> I'm just looking at you chair.

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Usually the chair and then
the question I have to confess

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the [snorts] farthest thing from a
business guy.

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» Well, since I was 18 years old, I was a
soldier and I I learned a great thing

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» and make a lot of noise, but I didn't
learn to develop

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uh businesses. Do we have
>> it seems well cases we were having art

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we were having a conversation earlier
about cases like the old Pittsville

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fairgrounds
which is a to my way of thinking it's a

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fairly level area of significant acreage
lots like that would be the places I

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would assume
businessminded people would want to

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develop uh
if there are some but

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You know, there are so many businesses
today that we encounter

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uh that
they're focused on the Epsom traffic

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circle and they're focused on the AL
traffic circle

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and those of us in part of Chai Chester
and all of Pittsfield and all of

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Barnstead, they're left high and dry. Uh
now I I mean that's basic geography. The

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demographics of th those traffic circles
where maybe

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somewhat significant roadways cross
they got lucky.

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Those of us out here in the middle have
to make it happen for ourselves.

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[clears throat]
>> Is that is there land that's owned by

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Pittsfield along 28?
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» But if I may, Mr. Chairman sir,
>> there is there's a bunch of private land

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» that would be accessible if
the state would open up there. I mean

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the land across from Glo.
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» the whole section from
actually Le Road out to upper city

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that would be accessible if
the state would open up or at least it

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would give the land owners an
opportunity to part with their land for

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because it would increase the value of
their land so they

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you know part with it things like that.
Um, so there is buildable land there.

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Seems like there's more buildable land
now than there ever has been. Just

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people put things everywhere now. Um, so
for us, that's where we run because we

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have no more driveway accessible areas
in Pittsfield for the state. We're done.

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We have no more driveway.
And when RA came to put their

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um now defunct uh drugstore in Pitts,
they went to the state, rumor has it,

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and they where the H property is now.
They I think it was 50 feet or before

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the H driveway. The state was trying
these people were trying to talk the

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state into putting in an an access road
that would go from 107 all the way up to

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upper city and then do the uh I guess
developing off that. But then they

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they got a I guess they got a great
opportunity with the place that they

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were down low.
that [clears throat] that was always one

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that people said, "Well, there's a good
deal of opportunity there because that's

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a pretty good stretch from upper city to
to 107 and some of it's maybe a little

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marshy and such, but
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» yeah,
>> is a nice piece of propert."

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» Yeah.
>> And is that still in limbo?

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Well, I don't know that it's in
>> the conservation, but the family is

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trying to put on
>> Yeah, they're they're working

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quite hard on having it conserve

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and
you oldtimes,

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correct me if I'm wrong, but that there
was an area there adjacent to that where

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they looked at putting what is Prospect
Mountain School at one time.

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» Yes, that's the piece of land that is as
you go up to the BCP right now where

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that is. It was right on the right on
the corner all the way straight back to

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where the BCDP is now.
>> So in theory

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» up on that big hill.
>> So in theory that could be something in

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the future. And I do believe if I
remember all of the access to the school

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was going to be coming off 28 by the
Boston Pittsfield line. They were going

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to develop it that way instead of coming
having and uh there was even a thought

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of bringing water and sewer up to that
area so the school would have. Mhm.

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» So there was but that a lot of a lot of
push back because of the the potential

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of hazmat because that that's been
filled up at the end of that property

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for how long. So
>> but [clears throat] that piece of land

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was but that doesn't mean that today it
could rent something else that's

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compatible with
living next to the transfer stadium.

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So
there are ideas of planning for

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most of the people in the room know
better than I it's been a long struggle

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to
get to where we are today and

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most of us thus far on the negative side
we haven't been able to contain I'm sure

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you've seen the last 12 18 months here
in Bisfield. He's been writing

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[clears throat]
and

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I can't name the parent company of what
was Rusty Crust

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and a couple of others
significant economic

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leaving too.
So they he was at planning board last

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Thursday in Barnstead [clears throat]
>> proposing proposing to move his whole

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operation
in Baron.

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» So
>> well that's his roots and it's always

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the locks came from there.
>> Yeah. There's a certain logic associated

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with that and
where he is now to my way of thinking

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was kind of hinched
between 107

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and 28
much more than he's done.

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» I believe he rents there as well.
>> Yeah, I think you're right.

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» He rents off a west garage over there.
So, he's trying to consolidate

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everything.
>> Yep. Makes sense. So, makes sense.

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» But where he wants to go, there's
already a driveway already where he

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wants to go, so he doesn't have to get
one from the state.

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» Or it makes even more sense. So, it's
just [clears throat]

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» Is there something going right now?
>> Uh, there's a sign on the building, I'm

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told, that says Dollar General.
>> Oh, just we're going to have two of

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them. You can't beat that.
[laughter]

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» Don't worry, it won't be snapped.

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I say I am not a business guy, but if
it's a Dollar General, what's the impact

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on your Dollar General?
>> I don't know, but if it wants to put it

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out of business, we're okay.

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Ours goes to Als.

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Well, but it's going to have an impact
on the other business there, that

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dollar, whatever it is, they have a
family dollar or whatever. It's going to

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have an impact on Donny's um you know,
some of these smaller [snorts] smaller

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stores as well, you know, because they
sell all the regular stuff they do.

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» Out of just curiosity, interest, what is
going in building that popcorn place

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» commercial? It's a commercial popcorn
operation. Yep. Yeah,

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» they do wholesale sales.
>> Wow.

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» What's going on in there?
>> Look good. [laughter]

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» Are we going to have a renaissance in
corn farms?

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» I need to supply this place.
>> I'm actually interested to find out, you

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know, what what job opportunities there
there will be there. You know,

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» what what it takes for to run the place,
you know, but

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» I mean, it's kind of an odd
>> business. It's [clears throat] an

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interesting think about it. Maybe maybe
there's something behind it that we

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don't know about.
>> It's certainly a niche business.

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[clears throat]
>> Yeah.

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» Now, uh last last time we had talked
there was there was conversation about

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like a grocery store, smaller size
grocery store, something with like a

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pharmacy to try to get either between
two towns there.

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» Yeah, it would be interesting.
>> Well, I think

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this Dollar General
>> [clears throat]

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» is supposed to be different
than other dollars and it's supposed to

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have more groceries,
but that's

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» supposed to be a DM market.
>> And that's what that's what's on

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» Google.
They sell they sell produce and stuff

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like that. So theory that's coming.
We'll see.

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But I mean in some ways maybe that's a
good thing because competition with

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Donny's may make Donny's
do something

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» to to make themselves more competitive.

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[clears throat] We'll see. It'll be
interesting to see [snorts] who is going

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to be the I guess no that new in Chai
Chester that it's going to it's being

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called I'm told
>> Chai Chester market.

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» It's supposed to be a mini drugstore.
Rumor has it it might be something from

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associated grocerers
>> because they open today. the Sully

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stores. Those are
>> associated

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meat market and a fish market.
[clears throat]

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» What is that road?
>> Yeah,

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» he's the guy from healthy buffalo. I
think

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» he's got those meats in there as well.
>> We had that open today. They did a soft

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opening today.

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Right.

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» The the real problem is
can't have our uh chief of police and

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his his patrolman out there telling
people you come into Pittsfield, we want

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you to build a business,
>> right?

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» I think we're in big trouble with that.
>> Yeah, I think that's probably limited

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success.
So for right now then we should probably

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concentrate on purchasing,
>> right?

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» I think the two of us
certainly an area

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» before I I would love to start seeing
your economic committee meet with our

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economic committee and see if they can't
move forward on some of these things

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and start that process because I think
that would be a because it's going to be

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a process. So the sooner we start it,
the better we all off we are.

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» Um, now we can go to the idea of
the usual purchasing and stuff like

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that.
>> Were you able to uh recruit enough

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people for that committee or anybody for
that?

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» We've
got five.

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» So it's been ongoing and new blood to it
would be fantastic. So

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» just new ideas and new and new blood is
always a positive thing.

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» Yeah.
>> Do you guys have a representative that

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sits on that committee?
>> Me

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business guy,
>> right?

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I was going to ask like what what kind
of ideas are they

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» right now?
>> Well, the last few years we we've been

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concentrating on
kind of some ancillary like solar

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development.
things that

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as you know we out there by Doug and
Doris

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uh there was a solar farm on on that
happens to be on private land

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but we've been working on developing
solar for

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uh to be built on public or town land
public land um for a couple of reasons.

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one we had to land another supplied
essentially free electricity for town

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properties uh for this building for the
highway department police department

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» all of that would would become free.
We're sort of held up at the moment

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uh because
coming right along with this, we're like

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many other towns in New Hampshire, we're
we're having to seriously consider

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replacement of our wastewater treatment
facility uh because it no longer meets

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federal standards. And so
[clears throat] and it's beyond its

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projected lifetime when it was built and
technology is significantly changed

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which is somewhat of an opportunity for
us because the the newer plants do not

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employ I'm told uh the lagoon systems
that we all grew up with. And if our

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lagoons were to go away, uh, we have
acres available for solar farming right

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there and would not have to
cut down woods to any great extent.

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Would not have to reshape. They're all
It's already leveled. So,

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» uh, so we're kind of moving out on the
replacement of the wastewater treatment

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facility, which hopefully might spin off
into opportunities for for solar power,

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additional solar power. We in truth we
somewhat get held up technologically

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because we the the current wastewater
treatment plant happens to be outside of

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the present reach of three-phase power.
>> Uh so that was adding to the expense.

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the idea of running lines
uh in three-phase was going to add to

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the expense and so we're kind of
treading water at the moment but

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still looking at at doing those sorts of
things.

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We do have a just based on the meeting
from a couple hours ago,

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we do have a

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a phone conversation coming up this next
week with our our representative

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Maggie Goodlander
to

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kind of beat her up and pick her brain
on what's available federally

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uh for small towns like us from the
federal level. And so I'm kind of

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looking forward to that discussion with
we're bound to learn more about what is

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or is not available
from her perspective. I mean, obviously,

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one Congress representative isn't
speaking [clears throat] for the entire

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Congress, but uh she and her staff may
may be aware of what programs or monies

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are available to play with in a small
place like Newampshire.

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So, more to follow on that.

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So I guess we move to the next section.
I mean we had discussed public forex and

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and the sol. So I I guess we have a new
public forex director

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with Dakota. Um
I don't know if we've had a chance to

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talk about cunnage of what you guys use,
what we use, if we can come down to a

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mutual
agreement. So we can get the buying

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power
>> um to purchase the larger volumes of

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that stuff.
>> I don't know if we can get a public

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works directors to talk and see if we
can figure that out. Maybe come up

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because when do you guys go and bid on
us?

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» I mean we haven't yet. So
>> I have that written down

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» because you guys use Mortens, right?
>> We what

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» use Mortens?
>> Yeah,

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» for salt. Yeah. Yeah, that was my
>> Yeah, we use that

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» state.
>> Okay.

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[snorts]

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» What goes out though? We usually roughly
estimate like 6,000 yards what we get,

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but we also get um
38 stone.

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So
our winter sand piles outside

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they dump the stone on the bottom of it
and then as a dump of sand on top of it

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and then as they go in the pile from the
the time it mixes itself with the dirt

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roads. So, so I mean I I think it would
be

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pretty important for our two road agents
to get together

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directors to get together and come up
with a an amount that we both and see

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what that does with our buying power.
Maybe it helped maybe it doesn't I don't

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know
>> something we could go down that I think

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that's an easy one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

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» Um I was going to suggest to go, you
know, we [clears throat] we have a nice

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diner
down the way at the friendly diner.

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Maybe the two supervisors have some
coffee and a donut

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and talk about me as a mutual something
else.

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» Great breakfast.

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» They do have a good breakfast. So
>> I was going to try to expense with them.

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» Yeah.

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I there's a great advantage to that.
>> Yeah.

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» Salt, sand, you know, gravel.
>> Yep.

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» Something could be done with that. I
think it' be great if they sat down and

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» Yeah, I I do too.
>> And I believe we're mostly propane,

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right? Don't know if we can do anything
with them. Yeah, we talked about fuel.

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» Yeah, we have old propane and heating
oil,

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» but diesel, you know, diesel. Yeah,
we've got the off the the diesel pump

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there. So, uh everything for us for
diesel wise is all onroad diesel. Then

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town hall sub to get reimbured for what
gets used on the equipment.

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[clears throat]
So,

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um
>> where is your diesel?

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» At our highway garage. So, um it's up
there. Fire has keys to it. They'll have

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key slots. Um so, we keep track of every
every vehicle what they use uh every

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month. So for that now your
your hobby department for winter sand.

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Do you guys usually truck it yourself or
is it all trucked in?

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» Um we mix it up if we need we don't have
the time and don't need to truck it

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ourselves or get it from Earth haul it
[clears throat] in for us.

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» Yep. So we we don't ever haul haul it in
ourselves. We just let them haul it in.

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um
it keeps our highway department on the

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roads doing what they need to do. And
does it cost more? Yes. But if you look

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at the long term, you're actually save
money in long term,

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» right?
>> What it is. So,

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» right.
>> Um but that's just something just going

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into bidwise knowing what's going to be
delivered or picked up um wise.

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So,

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uh,

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» the other thing we talked about was a
move station.

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» I was going to bring that up. We have
Yeah.

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[clears throat]
You guys had a

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» Yeah. By Nemo
and actually Nemo,

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right?

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Yeah. The only it's either Tri Chester
or Holland, but I don't remember. Try

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had gas. I think their was just diesel.
>> Yeah.

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» You remember,
>> will

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we get diesel? Yeah. Or you get
>> We get

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gas too.

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all the goals, but it would be nice to
have something closer.

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» So eventually, so especially if there's
a financial disaster or something,

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» right?
>> So

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I know I know I remember where we've had
to go into conquer to try to fuel up

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cruisers before.
So that's you rais an interesting

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question that here in Pittsfield
not too far away now down now down now

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down now down now down now down now down
now down now down now down now by where

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the old writing is the new DM is it
right there the state three of the

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state's highway districts converge
and it could make an awful lot of sense

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if the state were to put a fuel
site somewhere in the proximity because

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they've got vehicles from three
districts

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running around here all the time.

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» They have to
ask our legislators to

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» Well, now used to be the patrol.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and so why did they

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» the tanks were leaking and instead of
>> fixing them, they got rid of it.

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[clears throat]
>> But this may be a new era. And if the

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state were running a facility that could
be tapped into by the towns,

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» that might not be a bad thing.

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I didn't
think it's conquered though. There's

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like seven or eight towns that go in
with conquered the city of conquered to

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purchase fuel, gas, diesel, heating oil.

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It's been a while since I looked at
that, but want to say I want to say

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there was like seven or eight towns I
went in with conquered though that they

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all pulled together.
>> Oh, that's some serious

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purchasing power.
>> It doesn't. Yeah. You run the risk of

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you have a set price for the whole year
potentially. [clears throat]

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So you don't have the fluctuations,
>> but if it's set and the price goes high,

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then you still have it set. So if it
goes low, well,

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you're bad.
>> Yep.

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» So, but it may be easier budgeting wise
though. and and in theory over time

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uh that that would work itself
>> to be pretty stable.

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[clears throat]
>> Yeah. I'm not sure how much of a deal

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we're actually getting, but some of
those state ones are I use the one at

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home which is used by the state troopers
>> and the state trucks and you know I use

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it for the gas but
you know when I'm going to fill up it's

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like nine bucks so it's somewhere around
lots of gallons

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» you know I mean
>> that doesn't really sound like a

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really good savings
>> for us

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going to work.

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» Yeah. To save for
>> Yeah. Not

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going to have to be some
>> very local, you know.

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» Yeah. I mean, our state department, they
kept an eye on that. We'll just see how

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price it is versus what we use is there.
And they I mean, they're not going to

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take take a vehicle to go to Walmart
just to fill it up. they go to the

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highway garage, but if they're on their
way back, they may

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sense and course all of our ambulance
crews that are running to conquer

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» all the time.
>> Well, they need to be filled all the

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time because they could be on the way
back and get another call

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» back and just

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» Hey, I'm doing all the talking here,
guys.

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No new blazing ideas.
>> Well, next meeting cupcakes.

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» Okay.

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» Cupcakes.
Um, to change the subject a little bit,

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what have you, what have you guys heard
about what they the state is going to do

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with your dam.
>> Although I knew I I was going to hit

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him.
>> Yeah. Sorry.

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» They're going to raise it five feet.
>> They are going to keep it. Raise it five

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feet.
>> The one on Valley Dam. Yeah. For upper

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and lower.
>> That's the one up near Valley Dam. So

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that's on.
>> Okay. Okay. Yeah. So they they are going

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to allow you to keep your lake at least.
Yeah.

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» But they're going to raise it which is
going to remove some water frontage

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little houses that are on the lake. Is
that what I think it probably have more

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impact on downstream?
>> Yeah. The downstream state water.

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» Yeah. Um
>> but the Sun has a lot of different

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avenues. Um the Sun River does
>> on what what actually goes in there. So,

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I mean it it's probably going to be a
little less

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» and they're talking about doing all the
dams.

436
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:47,760
» Yeah. Yeah. The reason why I bring that
up is because the same communication

437
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:53,440
from the damn bureau was with I am here.
Um they haven't approached us per se

438
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:59,760
with a solid plane. But the rumor is to
do this to not to raise it five feet to

439
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,960
remove it. So,
>> well, they were they were talking about

440
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:06,000
that one in the braid for us,
>> right?

441
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,079
» Yeah.
>> So,

442
00:47:07,667 --> 00:47:11,920
[clears throat]
>> I don't know how that's going to work.

443
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:20,960
No, we're going to have an
>> They're planning to start in all

444
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:25,280
» removing the dam there by their DPW.
Take take that out.

445
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:30,680
» Yeah. New Durham, too. I think they're
somewhere around there.

446
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,680
mechs

447
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:42,520
will be done next year.
>> It's going to have a huge impact on

448
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,520
pretty much all

449
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:53,680
» opportunity to develop salmon fishing.
>> We'll be all ready for the thousand year

450
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:59,599
storm.
You have to seems like maybe 100 years

451
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:02,599
storm every 10 years,
>> right?

452
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,240
» We're going to we're going to deal with
our stock talking Scott that way.

453
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,240
» Y
>> perfect.

454
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:23,599
» Chiefs,
all of our usual

455
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:27,400
compacts are all up to date and good.
what you're happy with.

456
00:48:30,853 --> 00:48:32,873
[snorts]

457
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:49,119
» You guys are better experienced at this
mutually for decades.

458
00:48:47,228 --> 00:48:53,800
» [clears throat]
>> I'm sure you know all the nooks and

459
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,800
crannies.

460
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,880
» I mean, even just the the training
[clears throat]

461
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:05,520
that they the two of them have been
doing over the years, you know, not just

462
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:08,640
mindset, but I mean try
>> going on with you too.

463
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,640
» Yeah, absolutely. Everybody's got
everybody's pitching [clears throat] in.

464
00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:14,559
So,
>> so

465
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:21,599
slowly but surely.
>> Yep. Would

466
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:27,680
it be you know almost like
would it be good if we reached out to

467
00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:33,200
other maybe the start with the four that
are working together

468
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:36,800
every day that maybe for example
purchasing

469
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:41,200
equipment and I don't mean new fire
trucks I'm talking about fire hose and

470
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:45,839
the stuff if we were to get four
communities in on that

471
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:50,319
» the price should be reflected a little
bit better for these guys.

472
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:54,400
» All all the communities go ahead and
similar stuff.

473
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:58,400
» It is, but the big problem is to get
each town to agree

474
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:03,119
» on a certain type of
>> certain um and in the past that works

475
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:09,680
for a couple towns, but then there's
always one throws in

476
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,920
the small ones. Definitely regional
grants.

477
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:16,640
» Oh, that's right. Don't worry.
>> No. Well, there's also a a replacement

478
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:20,000
cycle that you guys follow, too. I mean,
not everybody's [clears throat] on the

479
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:24,000
same cycle.
>> You might not even need them this year

480
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:28,240
or next year, but that they're three
years out or something, you know.

481
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:32,720
» That may be something over time that we
can shoot for

482
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:35,960
» is that the radar cycles.
>> Yeah.

483
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:40,559
» You got to wear them out a little early.
[laughter]

484
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:44,559
» Host testing. Yeah. the host. Now that
is a requirement, isn't it? That's what

485
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:50,800
I thought.
>> That's when we saw that you gave us the

486
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:56,720
what was it? Multicolored hoses and it
was a very interesting thing. But they

487
00:50:53,760 --> 00:51:00,520
if they one of those let go the fire
somebody took it seriously.

488
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:12,559
And I'm sure Pete already does it, but
the scheduling maybe again like we had

489
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:17,839
talked about making sure that we both
have adequate coverage for our

490
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:25,119
parameters and stuff like that. I think
you've already started that a little bit

491
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:29,520
making sure right that
>> he might he might not

492
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,040
only is his third week.
>> Okay. So

493
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:38,960
» all right. over. So that's something
that has to be worked on worked out

494
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:42,400
money side, but we certainly would help
entertain that very well. But then

495
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:46,800
there's a union, there's a whole right,
there's a whole we can help each other

496
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,839
out easy, but then it comes to the
money,

497
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,480
» right?
>> Yep.

498
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:57,839
» And with that same compact idea, not
just fire hose, but every community has

499
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:02,240
got ambulances. And I would expect like
everything else, anything that says

500
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:08,000
medical is five times more expensive
than if you get it in a drugstore. Maybe

501
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:12,640
that those purchases could be kind of
because that's the stuff we use all the

502
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:18,880
time. I believe
we get a lot of it from Conquer Hospital

503
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:23,440
right now, but certainly we do get
certain needles and equipment that we go

504
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:27,200
in with each other to purchase. They
allow you to stock up before you leave.

505
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,720
You drop some money off and they stock
up.

506
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:32,551
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

507
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,319
» That would be going to the wayside. So,
[clears throat]

508
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:39,839
» well, they're a business now. They
always were a nonprofit. Now they're

509
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:43,400
conquered hospital.
>> They on deliver.

510
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:54,400
So, that's when they need to. So,

511
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,559
anything we can do, you know.
>> Yeah. Police have to work with police on

512
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:13,839
what where they might be able to
purchase items [snorts] invoke or to

513
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:22,920
gather fire with fire
and you know nickel safe is a nickel

514
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,920
city right that's having apartments

515
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:28,520
unfortunately the highway park is a
little different

516
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,640
way more dirt roads
guys

517
00:53:33,466 --> 00:53:41,359
[snorts] I
But that even even again going to the

518
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:47,119
small things. I mean fluids, I mean
oils, greases, all that stuff. If there

519
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:52,720
was a way that we could do it in a bulk.
Um I I don't know. This is way off base

520
00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:56,240
probably, but I don't even know if we
have the same equipment. We have the

521
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:59,839
same trucks and we carry some parts
here. You guys carry some parts there.

522
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:03,920
And a truck breaks down in the middle of
a storm. We could call on each other and

523
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:07,119
say, "Hey, do you have this so we can
get back? Either one of us can get back

524
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,400
on the road."
>> Anything like that would benefit both

525
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:15,520
communities.
>> Well, and like nothing against

526
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:18,000
here.
>> It is. Yeah.

527
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:24,000
» But
they're they're Napa Napa and Birming

528
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:28,720
Napa too. But yet Napa will be half the
price of

529
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:32,079
» these guys. So like a lot of us come
right from

530
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:37,839
Yeah. They'll deliver to that. I know
they'll deliver here because he he's

531
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:43,599
gotten state for filters in general and
he'll he will do Dan will do two runs

532
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:48,640
into Conquer every day is what he'll do.
And he'll go right down 28 to go into

533
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:53,839
Conquer go back. So if it's either on
his way there or way back they'll stop

534
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:58,559
and drop stuff off. So
>> that may be something that you may want

535
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:02,800
to check into.
>> Yeah, I mean I know there are local

536
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:05,599
local
that's been here for years, but dolls

537
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,520
are all
>> well that at the end of the day it's

538
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:13,920
» I'm somebody that I like local
businesses but you have to look at the

539
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,319
financial side of it the same thing for
half the price. It's nothing against

540
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,640
them. It's
>> you've got to be financially responsible

541
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:24,319
on the board.
>> Right. Exactly. But some of that may

542
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,160
generate change,
>> right?

543
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:32,079
» Right.
>> If I I would think if a business knows

544
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,800
they're losing business to somebody
who's undercutting the prices,

545
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:41,839
» right?
>> Then maybe something good can come out

546
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:46,000
something for the community.
>> Yeah.

547
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:52,559
» Because all of us I mean we got to
squeeze the nickel to the right.

548
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:57,200
Yeah. I mean, and currently right now,
like the majority of our maintenance up

549
00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:01,920
at Highway, they don't do it. Um, we've
told them to outsource it all just

550
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:05,200
because either that they're not
qualified or they're not comfortable

551
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:10,480
doing it and we don't want to have that
liability on them. So, it makes it e

552
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:15,200
easier and yes, it keeps them on the
road. They're not in the shop. It's nice

553
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:20,240
to finish up on a rainy day, snowing,
you know, first snowtorm eventually to

554
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:25,200
get to go through things, but
we have to look at it what their

555
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:29,920
capabilities are, too.
Is it

556
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:34,480
» maybe we ought to find a decent mechanic
and split his salary. [laughter]

557
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:37,359
» That's a great idea. That's kind that's
kind of where I honestly was going with

558
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,400
it because like we talked about
purchasing fluids [snorts] in bulk, but

559
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:45,040
there's no point to purchase them really
in bulk potentially other than maybe

560
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:48,640
hydraulic fluid because okay, they blow
a hydraulic line in the middle of wear

561
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:53,119
time. We have a setup to make hydraulic
hoses in our shop. So we can just make

562
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,640
them themselves and they just got to
fill the hydraulic tank and off they go.

563
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:01,839
» But outside of that, they don't really
keep much bulk fluids there just except

564
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:05,280
to top off. It's always been amazing to
me [clears throat]

565
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:09,680
that
all these towns in New Hampshire or, you

566
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:14,799
know, anywhere in Northern New England
that that were operating these

567
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:21,040
apartments on such as Houston
mostly it's [clears throat] too small

568
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:27,119
for 24-hour day operations, but but not
having a mechanic on scene.

569
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:31,520
» Yep. uh that is your mechanic that does
well not only the highway they would

570
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:38,160
have to you know that has to expand to
the fire and you know and changing oil

571
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:43,200
in the police cars and the air filters
and all that sort of stuff. I don't know

572
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:47,119
how any of us get by without inhouse
mechanisms

573
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,559
on that as well looking into that
possibly

574
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:54,160
» and I mean you know we're always
breaking problems.

575
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:58,400
» Yeah. And to [clears throat] have a guy
who can, you know, bring it by and I'm

576
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,680
welding it in 10 minutes rather than
having to go to hooks it.

577
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:05,359
» Yeah.
>> And to have a plow welded.

578
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:06,960
» I mean, there's typically something that
breaks every day highway.

579
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:08,960
» Y
>> Yes.

580
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,119
» Every day.
>> It's the nature of the beast.

581
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:16,839
» Unfortunately, you're right. It is.
>> That's a wonderful idea.

582
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:27,359
» Question whether we had enough cold time
again. I think we absolutely do.

583
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:34,079
And we go to fire east small fire
vehicles and police highway itself.

584
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:39,559
» But maybe if we were find a way to start
small and be half time

585
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,559
» well

586
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:47,440
until we figure out the finances of it.
>> Well, there's that and whoever

587
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:52,319
potentially gets hired, they need to
know their capabilities, what's expected

588
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:56,079
of them. So me personally, I don't want
them rebuilding rebuilding an engine in

589
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,920
the shop. No, send that out,
>> right?

590
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:02,880
» Like it should literally going to be
just the basics. Keep it going. So,

591
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:06,240
» well, because many of our there are
certain warranties and guarantees with

592
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:12,079
that [clears throat]
it needs to go to

593
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:16,160
white or Mac or whatever the truck brand
is in order to get it particular. Well,

594
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,599
that's something that they can keep they
that person can keep track of because

595
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:25,599
we've had
>> we've had vehicles that have had

596
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:31,040
extended warranties on them and nobody
knew about it until after the fact and

597
00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:34,880
we've already paid and because one
because the work wasn't done at the

598
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:39,599
dealer, we couldn't get reimbured for
it. So, we've already paid an

599
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:45,920
aftermarket shop. I'm sure we've all got
that somewhere along the line.

600
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:50,480
» As much as people casing and maintaining
their own vehicles, it's still the fact

601
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:55,839
that you have a mechanic here that has
all the records and it's computerizing.

602
00:59:53,440 --> 01:00:01,280
No, that truck stays here today. I've
got things to do with instead of it

603
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:04,559
going out on the roads down and we're
fixing it after the fact.

604
01:00:03,851 --> 01:00:08,640
[snorts]
I think it's pretty responsive to do

605
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:13,200
that. I think there's plenty of work for
a mechanic and then like you said we did

606
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:19,000
it together possibly see how it would
work out split the time

607
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,000
» something

608
01:00:20,881 --> 01:00:29,040
[clears throat] a mechan a trained
mechanic may also be a trained operator

609
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:34,240
and when he hasn't got the mechanic work
to do he's operating something

610
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:39,520
» I know a few years ago we uh we looked
into that and I was a little Well, a

611
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:42,000
good trained mechanic is going to want
to do mechanics. They're not going to

612
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,640
want to go north. Right.
>> Absolutely.

613
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:49,520
» And I got kind of shot down there and
they put their ad out for plowing and

614
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,440
running equipment when he's not busy
with mechanics and they got zero

615
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:57,599
applications.
>> So, and I got a feeling they would have

616
01:00:55,839 --> 01:01:01,280
got applications and was strictly a
mechanic.

617
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:05,119
» I mean, if if they have nothing,
>> they're they're looking over what's

618
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:08,799
coming up next. Yeah. potentially,
>> you know, what do they have for for

619
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,880
parts, what do they need to order, you
know,

620
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:15,440
» or tracking those records from work.
Yeah.

621
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:20,480
» All that
means

622
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:25,839
» Oh, yeah.
>> This is another rabbit hole

623
01:01:23,107 --> 01:01:31,920
[clears throat] to run down. It's only
Allen's question because it's a it's a

624
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:36,640
big question in Pittsfield right now. Uh
what is your department highway

625
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:41,440
department's responsibilities toward
your cemeteries?

626
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:44,400
» They don't touch them.
>> We

627
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,960
» they don't touch them.
>> We hire them out.

628
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,559
» A lot of a lot of them are taken care of
with neighbors.

629
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,040
» Neighbors, but there's the actual the
cemetery committee.

630
01:01:53,440 --> 01:02:01,599
» Then the cemetery committee,
>> they take care of them all. So

631
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:07,200
» well and and we do have a board of
trustees for the cemetery and our

632
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:14,480
history is at least our recent history
is that it's a contract type of

633
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:20,720
situation handled by
but when the voters killed the budget

634
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:24,160
there was no budget for maintaining the
cemeteries. Yep.

635
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:30,319
» And
that that lasted a relatively short time

636
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:34,160
before the torches and pitchforks came
out that we weren't maintaining the

637
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:41,359
cemeteries. And now suddenly it's a
grand idea that the highway department

638
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:44,319
should maintain the cemeteries
and

639
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,680
» well don't most of these have a
committee or an association established

640
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:52,680
with them? like I don't really
buy

641
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:59,119
» board of trustees and stuff like that
but

642
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:02,720
» but if they don't have a budget
>> I know that that's not a town maintained

643
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:07,119
cemetery
>> right so that's a private just like our

644
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:11,839
Catholic cemetery in Northro is a
private cemetery that we don't oversee

645
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:16,000
we're talking about the town okay
>> owned maintained cemetery which you guys

646
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:20,480
only have one of those two right
>> we got a

647
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:27,680
We have my last there's over a hund of
them in town that the cemetery committee

648
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:31,280
is responsible for maintaining.
>> Like I said, a lot of that's

649
01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:35,200
they
>> a lot of them are small. You know,

650
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:39,680
they're not
>> there's $3,000 in the budget for them to

651
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:45,200
maintain all all of them. And that's
either mowing, weed whacking, trimming

652
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:49,119
branches, cutting down trees. $3,000
>> and a lot of them a lot of them

653
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:53,520
volunteer a lot of time too to do it. So
usually the $3,000 is spent on having

654
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,520
somebody come in and either cut a tree
or tree limbs. That's usually what it

655
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,039
gets spent on
>> or a few maybe something you know. But

656
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:04,000
yeah,
>> well it it

657
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:10,799
one I can't remember what year it was
but our main cemetery was a private

658
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:16,640
association until very
>> 15 until very recently when

659
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:21,920
» that doesn't work backwards
>> essent well essentially the state that

660
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:25,599
we did not have a town well we had a
town cemetery which happens to be over

661
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:30,720
by the old meeting house
>> but nobody had been buried there. You

662
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:36,960
see 60s
technically closed cemetery. Well, towns

663
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:43,440
can't have closed cemeteries. They have
to have an operational cemetery. So, uh,

664
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:48,319
when when the association's budget got
low,

665
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:53,680
the town had to take over the cemetery
for solve their budget problem, but

666
01:04:51,280 --> 01:05:00,000
solve the town's political problem of
not having a designated cemetery.

667
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:05,440
But then [clears throat] the great
question that seems to be on everybody's

668
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:11,049
mind today, is it somehow part of the
highway department [snorts] versus

669
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:15,280
They made contract arrangement
[clears throat]

670
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:20,160
which could all be said solved by
passing budget I mean our department

671
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:23,680
they don't have a lawn mower they don't
have a push mower they don't have ride

672
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:28,799
on mower they don't do any other other
than roadside mowing that's it

673
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:36,079
» so even the the lawn mower around town
all there PD fire library that all gets

674
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:41,240
contracted out for [clears throat] us
>> although we have had some pretty good

675
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,240
deals that contract.

676
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:48,960
» Does each department pay for that
contract or is it all

677
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:54,280
» It's all encompassing under
>> the general buildings line item there.

678
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:58,039
Yeah.

679
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:07,380
Yeah. We have we have a line item that
says all uh all government building

680
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:09,400
maintenance and it falls under that. So,
>> [snorts]

681
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:21,760
» We typically budget $40,000 for all of
our municipal buildings. So, we're over

682
01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:27,760
spent right now on it. We over spent
last year on it, too. Last year was more

683
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:30,400
than 100 grand. We over spent.
>> We got hit with a couple of

684
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:35,760
» So,
>> items that were unanticipated.

685
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:40,720
» Yeah. that um
we're unprepared for high dollars.

686
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:46,000
» Yeah.
>> Heat systems, stuff like that.

687
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,520
» Every time.
>> Yeah.

688
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:52,880
» Heat system, filtration systems there,
water.

689
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:55,880
» So,
generator.

690
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:06,280
» Oh, yeah.
>> Generator services there and repairs.

691
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,280
So, but we learned something. But

692
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:14,079
it didn't go unnoticed.
>> Premaintenance is pre-maintenance. Put a

693
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:18,400
little extra here, a little extra there.
>> But then we're all out of office and

694
01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:23,920
whoever comes after is wearing it again.
>> Well, yeah, that's true.

695
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:29,119
Hopefully, we can clear the path a
little bit.

696
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:34,880
» Yeah.
So,

697
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:40,400
Do you have any else that we really want
to cover? We don't want to keep you here

698
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:45,280
forever.
>> So, do you mind if I ask the public if

699
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:49,039
they have any comments because I know
Steve has some ideas and I'm curious

700
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:53,680
what his ideas are while we are both
here.

701
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:56,799
» Yeah. Wanted to back to the economic
development talking about the beginning

702
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,760
of the meeting.
>> Yep. Is anybody familiar with tax

703
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:06,880
increments of financing districts at
all? So, they can be very dangerous.

704
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:12,079
They can be very good. And I think a lot
of that's how they're structured. But in

705
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:19,279
a nutshell, what it involves is taxpayer
dollars being expended to create site

706
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:24,159
work and a site where a developer could
come in without putting out hundreds of

707
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:29,679
thousands of dollars perhaps on site
work, but they come in and build their

708
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:35,199
building. Their their taxes go toward
paying the bond which the municipality

709
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:40,719
takes out in order to do the site work.
And as that bond is paid off, then the

710
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:45,440
municipality starts generating tax
revenue. So it can be dangerous. Um if

711
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:50,960
you using Rochester as an example, if
you go up Route 11, that entirety of the

712
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:57,679
left side of Route 11 is all fixed and
that involves uh there's there's

713
01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:01,759
Walmart. It's huge. And there's another
a huge area going in. But their mistake

714
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:06,400
was they used it for residential
development which is terrible instead of

715
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:10,319
focusing on certain commercial
development. [clears throat] So they're

716
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:14,799
going to end up getting hurt thing but
might be something to have a

717
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:17,920
conversation on. I'm typically an
opponent of it. When I was on the

718
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:23,279
Rochester [clears throat] City Council,
I actually voted against it u when they

719
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:29,123
wanted to expand it. you might want to
figure um it might be a way to get some

720
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:33,120
heavy tax paying commercial
[clears throat] industrial into this

721
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:38,080
into our towns. And you know, face it,
if we don't do that, our our tax rate is

722
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:42,159
going to continue to go up. We need to
get more commercial industrial. It's the

723
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:46,880
only answer to to the high cost and
reputation that we need. [clears throat]

724
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:52,000
You know, big
industry or commercial doesn't put it in

725
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:58,480
kids schools. So we don't have that $30
odd,000 a year education cost for every

726
01:09:54,719 --> 01:10:04,000
house that's sold per. So industry, you
know, might pay $100,000 a year in

727
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,480
taxes. So it's something to consider.
You might want to have a conversation

728
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:10,640
going forward.
>> Well, that that's a great idea and it's

729
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:15,679
a great conversation to have, but we
have that one slight problem that we

730
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:22,719
discussed earlier. We don't have access
to any land to do that

731
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:27,520
» because we don't have the driveway
capability. We can't put a driveway in.

732
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:33,840
I can't pick I can't pick the old
fairgrounds and say I want to use that

733
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:38,480
because we have no access off 28.
>> We have a limited access highway. So,

734
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:45,199
back
in the 60s or so when they did it, um,

735
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:51,920
yeah, it was probably 10 years after
Route 28 was put in, our select board

736
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:57,840
asked the state to make it a limited
access highway because they didn't want

737
01:10:54,800 --> 01:11:02,800
it hurt the downtown.
stole the preserve from downtown

738
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:07,360
» and what it did is it destroyed the
downtown because nobody came downtown.

739
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:13,520
They stayed on the highway. They stayed
on 28. So they don't come down. So our

740
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:19,819
problem now is to overcome that. We have
to go back and beg the state to change

741
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:25,199
something that we asked for
[clears throat]

742
01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:30,960
back then which was shortsighted. Um the
the the intent is good but the results

743
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:36,880
was awful. So
we have to now that's why then the next

744
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:41,360
step would be your idea to be looking
into that. We had to overcome that first

745
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:44,080
hurdle.
>> I see that

746
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:48,480
problem.
>> Yep. Unless you were able to get

747
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:53,120
industrial doesn't need the frontage on
28 but that's too much industry being

748
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:57,920
built
right

749
01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:05,360
coming out of China right
>> well thank knock on wood we we do still

750
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:13,040
have globe in place uh and we have we
have a couple of other [snorts]

751
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:20,000
operator Mike Podmore the uh fastener
folks that here and if if they could

752
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:24,640
attract
likeminded

753
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:29,760
uh individuals then I think we we go
faring

754
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:33,440
some ground work for that to be
successful.

755
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:37,120
» Now where are they
across

756
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:42,320
the highway from
>> the

757
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:48,000
weaving mill? Okay. Loud.
>> Right. If you walk over Yeah.

758
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:50,880
» Just pass on the left hand side. Yep.
>> Okay. Yeah.

759
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:57,880
» Who's it going to take if you don't mind
asking to ask us

760
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,880
like

761
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,400
» basically

762
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:11,120
for
the legislators?

763
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:15,199
It has to be just
>> if I were doing it today, I'd go to

764
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:21,120
Pearl.
>> I think now's the time to do it.

765
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,360
» Electing good reps that are willing to
stand up and fight for you.

766
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:27,520
» Thank you.
>> Is pretty [clears throat] important

767
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:32,000
because I know our reps are into some
major things right now. They're really

768
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:36,239
fighting about egg packaging and that's
really helping us a lot, you know, with

769
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:41,280
all of these issues. I mean, the state
is what mandating schools all the time.

770
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:44,560
We're what about a 26% difference in
what we're supposed to be getting?

771
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,679
That's a lot of money. That would help
the taxpayers right there. And our reps

772
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,880
are
>> Yeah. They're supporting it and they're

773
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:54,000
and they're concerned with the eggs.
>> Yeah.

774
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:57,360
» So, I I think electing good reps that
are ready to get up there and you can

775
01:13:55,280 --> 01:14:00,960
see and hear what they're doing makes
helps us with things. Get in there and

776
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,480
if you're going to keep mandating, give
us more money like they're supposed to

777
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:09,520
be doing. And then it falls on the
school. The schools, you know, their

778
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:12,960
budget's crazy. There's a reason why,
you know, the mandates don't stop.

779
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:17,199
Sometimes for good reason and sometimes
they're a little ridiculous. And I I I

780
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:21,360
really think the elections and the reps
is pretty important. People are willing

781
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:26,800
to get out and fight. That helps all of
us, helps all of them. So that's

782
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:30,719
something a little interesting too.
>> And we also have our executive

783
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:35,360
councilman
>> because sometimes if we can get him in

784
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,840
the right direction.
>> Does he cover?

785
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:43,960
» I does you have Stephen you guys have
>> Yeah. Stephen.

786
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,960
» Yeah.

787
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:52,440
» Are you your district?
>> He was

788
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,440
in the 90. I just stop.

789
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:59,120
» Yeah, he's he's
>> Yeah. So, Steven I thought that Barnsted

790
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:04,560
in the last turnover and you picked them
up. So, we got the same councilman

791
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:09,199
» and they've got that could be
advantageous because we don't have the

792
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:14,719
same
across the county line.

793
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:17,840
» We may have the same senator.
Yes,

794
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:21,600
» we do have you have Steven because we we
do it.

795
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:26,400
» Yeah, we have John Steven is our
>> uh executive.

796
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:30,159
» So, remember this is an election year.
>> So, I'm trying to reach out to Howard

797
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:33,600
and ask him to make it an election
issue.

798
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:36,239
» Well, I I sat next to Howard when I was
over there, so I don't mind reaching

799
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,480
out.
>> Me, too.

800
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:48,280
That would be a good shot if we did if
we had that.

801
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:55,600
» Yeah, absolutely.
>> Because one's going to feed off the

802
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,640
other. If we could start something here,
the next thing you know, it's going to

803
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:03,600
feed on you guys. Or if you did the same
thing down there, it's going to feed on.

804
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:07,679
It's just it's an attraction thing. We
just need to the light to have the flies

805
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:11,040
come to it.
have them in say, you know, what are you

806
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,239
going to do?
>> Tell us what you're going to do and then

807
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:17,640
show us you're going to be
>> to help us

808
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:29,679
any other avenue that anybody wants to
discuss

809
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:32,880
everyone here.
>> Do you know when your next assessment

810
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:37,920
here is when you're doing your next
update?

811
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:42,920
I do not I think we just completed the
meeting last year. I think we

812
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:54,719
» Yeah, we finished it. It goes over
multiple years. Five years. So I think

813
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:59,840
we just finished.
I think yeah, we just

814
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:02,880
» I think you guys were on the same cycle
as we

815
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:07,040
» because
you remember the charts that Tim had for

816
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:10,600
the school. They reset it all when we
reassessed everything.

817
01:17:11,679 --> 01:17:20,080
» Reassess last year, right?
>> Right.

818
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:25,679
That's I'm glad you brought that
contract. And last time, the past two

819
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:33,600
times, we've only been able to attract a
lot of people consider bidding on

820
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:36,600
there's not a [snorts]
nice

821
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:43,560
» Yeah.
You guys use wood, right?

822
01:17:45,618 --> 01:17:51,040
» [snorts]
>> A lot of our people who pay attention to

823
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,040
the budget, you know, whether it's
budget committee or residents, they're

824
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:59,199
just they see these huge contracts go
through and they wonder why you're not

825
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:05,920
bidding better, but we're doing our best
because people aren't bidding on our P.

826
01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:09,400
I was just curious as to why you how you
cut down with

827
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:13,199
» Yeah.

828
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:18,960
Yeah, but you don't use avatar. You use
a private

829
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:22,480
person already, right?
>> We have avatar. We have Rob as an

830
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:27,040
assessor.
>> But he doesn't work for

831
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:32,199
» He doesn't work for a
justing software. We use

832
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:44,679
» Yeah, he did. He finished up the last
one before Avatar came in.

833
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:44,679
plus

834
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:50,159
» I think it's important to keep this
going as well because we can talk about

835
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:54,080
it now and talk in six months and talk
again

836
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:57,520
» the police and fire and they all know
what they're doing they're going to work

837
01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:03,920
together you know they don't need us
telling them a thing but I mean like

838
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:08,080
highway and I think there's a lot of
materials let's say there that they may

839
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:13,760
be able to catch a break on and work
together and keep them in the loop Yeah,

840
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:17,199
» we keeping the loop on this. I mean,
>> just to keep it going because the way

841
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:21,249
we're going to get anything out of it is
to stay on it.

842
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:25,679
» If Mr. Stevens is reelected
[clears throat]

843
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:30,560
and we have one of these meetings in
November after the election, I bet if

844
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:34,960
his schedule was clear, he would love to
come in and because he's always looking

845
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:39,120
to have
>> more things.

846
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:43,360
» That's a good idea. bulk buying and
stuff like that. That's right.

847
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,880
» He's a friend of the family and he I
know I know he

848
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:47,880
» he's good people.
>> Yeah.

849
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:54,280
» So that's we put that mark on the
calendar.

850
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,600
» Exactly.

851
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:07,120
» Well, so we we met last time it was two
two months and two days ago.

852
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:10,640
Would it be advantageous to meet next
month because budget season's here

853
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:14,400
whether we all want these two or not?
That way we can you know what are your

854
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,640
big ticket items? What are our big
ticket items?

855
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:28,320
» Not running two months
[clears throat]

856
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,320
cutting that to a month,
>> right?

857
01:20:31,335 --> 01:20:38,320
» [clears throat]
>> Chair, I think the one thing that we

858
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:44,600
have to be concerned about will be when
do we go out to bid on broad edi?

859
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:52,800
» Yeah. I mean, is that going to happen
prior to the next month meeting or are

860
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:56,280
we going to be able to go a month before
we do that?

861
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:04,840
» We usually No, we don't wait that long.
September.

862
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,840
» No, we awarded Octo

863
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,040
usually comes in in the beginning of
September.

864
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:16,880
» And I'm not sure when does when's the
state finalized their state bid?

865
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:21,840
Is it is it the end of August?
So, I think maybe if we do, we should

866
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:26,560
make it try to make it around September
so we can come up with a a bid process

867
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:30,800
and have our own agents come up with the
amounts that we need and don't need. Is

868
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:34,960
that what we have an idea? And maybe
make it a mutual

869
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:37,600
» package bid the vendor and say this is
what we've got. What can you do for us?

870
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,960
» Exactly.
>> Yeah.

871
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:46,440
» So like a month.
>> Okay.

872
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,440
September.

873
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:52,000
» August.
>> The primary is on the primary on the 8th

874
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:57,040
» and that's the second Tuesday of the
month.

875
01:21:54,560 --> 01:22:01,199
You guys meet on Tuesdays, right?
So, does Wednesdays work for you guys?

876
01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:05,440
Kind of. Does it work for us? You guys
think?

877
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:09,520
» Yeah. So, it could be on the 9th or the
16th.

878
01:22:06,719 --> 01:22:12,639
» That's either on the 16th would be the
month of today.

879
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:16,400
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. And by then, we should have the

880
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:18,719
information we need from both our public
works and stuff like that on June the

881
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,840
16th.
>> That's why we're

882
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:27,840
so
>> 5:30 again. And our

883
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:33,040
» that's
our our road agent is an official road

884
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:39,717
agent now. So
>> they they no longer are the

885
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:47,159
» the highway foreman. They are the
[snorts] highway department's road agent

886
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:47,159
now. So as of first thing this morning

887
01:22:54,639 --> 01:22:58,719
» what time? 5:30 work
>> 5:30 works. Yeah.

888
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,040
» Okay.
>> You're going to buy the cupcakes. Is

889
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:04,560
that the deal?
>> No.

890
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:08,040
» Yeah. You're hostess.
>> Bringing the coffee.

891
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:14,120
» No. hopefully coming

892
01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:29,120
with cupcakes shared um fuel area that
you have it might be beneficial if we

893
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:35,120
bring other towns in like Chester
because that's very very close to us.

894
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:40,320
» Yeah. So the more power that we have,
the more towns that we have might be

895
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:44,320
beneficial and might move the state a
little more.

896
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:53,360
» It's and I and I somewhat agree with
that. Um the problem that I have with

897
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:56,000
Chai Chester is their system right now
is somewhat broken.

898
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:02,320
» Yes. Yes.
>> So, I am somewhat concerned

899
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:06,080
if we bring them in, we start down that
path and all of a sudden for some reason

900
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:09,840
they back out and all that stuff.
>> Um, I have total faith with working with

901
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:16,239
this,
>> right? But I do agree with you. Um,

902
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:21,040
maybe exom, maybe something like
something

903
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:23,600
like B C.
>> Yep.

904
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:26,880
» Um, we're already getting along. We've
got a good relation. has to be close

905
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:31,560
enough to make it beneficial though
otherwise it's just

906
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,560
» right

907
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:38,320
here
somebody might say hey

908
01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:43,280
» exactly
>> and I think Gary hits if we go too big

909
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:48,000
too quick I don't know if we can control
it as easy as we can right now

910
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:55,280
» um that's my concern
>> I like I like your idea

911
01:24:51,199 --> 01:25:00,320
» so from more town act from the BTS the
better off you are. Absolutely. And if

912
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:03,440
we put it in, it benefits them too.
>> I want to suggest it. I'll figure it out

913
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:07,840
first before we try to get somebody
else.

914
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:10,880
» I I I
thought

915
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:18,000
» too big to
we've done it before

916
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:22,719
uh with BC. Y that that is a model that
not only the rest of New Hampshire, that

917
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:29,199
is a model throughout New England and
people come to our facility to look at

918
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:32,159
because they have our four towns working
together successfully.

919
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:37,040
» Right.
>> Is there extra area there? Put that in

920
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:40,560
there to put
>> Not at the moment. [snorts]

921
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:44,199
» I'd be nervous digging.
>> Yeah. We're not

922
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:57,280
» even there.
>> There is some space out back. Um there

923
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:03,440
is a um
future goal maybe to reroute some stuff

924
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:08,159
up there, maybe put a new scale in, uh
new approaches, stuff like that. So, you

925
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:11,679
know, we got to figure all that out.
But, you know, there is there is some

926
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:16,880
property there, but it's not going to be
available for

927
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:21,679
I would like to see I'm not sure the
property next to the propane tanks. I'm

928
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:24,960
not sure it's exactly what the status of
that is, but

929
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:30,880
» yeah, that's that's an ideal location.
>> That's

930
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:37,840
not right. It's already next to tanks
and fuel tanks and so if somehow we

931
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:41,360
could manipulate that. What about the
land in between Blueberry and those big

932
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,800
tanks?
>> I mean, there's quite a bit there.

933
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:50,159
» Yeah. I don't know the status of that.
>> I know the river gets a little close.

934
01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:54,480
» Yep. Right in there. But I don't know
what

935
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:58,800
the one right next to it.
>> New Hampshire. State of New Hampshire.

936
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:03,440
» Yeah. So, the state already has
property,

937
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:07,520
» but it's steep as hell.
>> Yeah. But one state

938
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:10,520
» right there on the corner.
>> Okay.

939
01:27:12,855 --> 01:27:20,679
[clears throat]
>> Yeah. But I mean and it is on the river

940
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,679
side. So

941
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:32,800
» I was on I was the representative on the
planning board at the time they came in

942
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:36,320
to they wanted to have two I want to say
they were 10,000 gallon tanks they were

943
01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:39,520
going to put in the ground they going to
put a little motor around it and then

944
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:44,960
they were next to it they were going to
put the the above ground gas

945
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:50,000
» and somebody along the way it may have
been their own attorney's fault Because

946
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:53,520
at that time Rhymes was selling
>> and at that time they said no no we're

947
01:27:52,000 --> 01:28:00,400
just going to put the above ground
because they I think it's less I I I'm

948
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:06,880
not certain but I think it's less than a
thousand I mean feet to the river

949
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:09,880
» and that stuff gets in the river on the
ground

950
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:18,000
also may remember
problem

951
01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:23,280
» with the accused next to right is
>> right.

952
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:26,639
» I mean that's it does it does not have
to be below ground tanks. I mean the

953
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:30,960
state can put it above ground tank and
just as easy as being put in it whatever

954
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:34,960
whatever the engineer that would be
engineers is

955
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:37,199
» ours highway it's a 3000gallon above
ground tank

956
01:28:35,679 --> 01:28:41,199
» exactly
the

957
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:44,719
» right
back

958
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:49,040
» the state owns that too.
>> Yeah. So if you go by 28 and you look at

959
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:55,880
the back of the V salt shed that is the
T line that's for the road going up back

960
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,880
that's the L property

961
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:05,760
» so highway materials and fuel is a
pretty good start what are you paying

962
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:10,960
right now for a gallon for diesel with
300 gall

963
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:13,760
» I don't know off top ahead
back

964
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,840
» but I mean we get it from Huckleberry
and it's every time they deliver their

965
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:20,159
price.
>> Yep.

966
01:29:16,639 --> 01:29:24,080
» So, that's where all of our heating fuel
comes from. Propane comes from as well.

967
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,280
» Yep.
>> We did locking last year with

968
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:31,520
Huckleberry. Yeah.
>> Propane.

969
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:36,480
» Um, we actually
>> I think we made a great

970
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:41,040
» and he we got a great deal actually. Um,
>> you know, chances are they lost money

971
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:48,080
this year, so probably won't that good
of a deal next year. Um we can hope

972
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:57,000
last couple of years Carol has done an
alip job with dead river

973
01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:57,000
half of what the I mean public

974
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,800
» that's
heating

975
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:07,920
» right but that doesn't include diesel
fuel for our because we don't have any

976
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:11,480
» room for a fuel
>> we don't pay tax

977
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:21,000
I believe
>> until

978
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:29,199
we need to stay.
>> Are you guys all set over there? Anybody

979
01:30:26,639 --> 01:30:33,560
have any more questions?
drink. Orange juice.

980
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,920
All right.