[8:44] Um
well once again uh welcome
[8:48] [clears throat] to physio for our second
session of what
[8:54] hopefully will become a regular
occurrence.
[8:57] I don't think we have I I am the sitting
chairman of the Pittsfield Select Board
[9:05] until
struck down by pitchforks and torches.
[9:11] But but for a while anyway I get to hold
Gav. Uh but uh I think there are so many
[9:22] have mutual interest in our communities
if we ignore the county line that the
[9:30] council committ
[9:35] » Oh yes before I too far into this we are
going out via YouTube uh so folks in our
[9:44] communities
can and share whatever experience it is
[9:48] we have tonight. [clears throat]
>> But uh
[9:52] » and what's what's your name? Martha.
>> Martha is our owl's name.
[9:57] » Martha.
>> Yeah.
[9:58] » We it probably would serve a useful
purpose if we went around and introduced
[10:03] ourselves again. Uh just cuz we back
here. We we've had enough time since the
[10:10] last meeting to forget. Yeah. So,
as I said, I'm Jim Allard, the the chair
[10:17] of board for the time being.
>> The chair. I'm Paul. I'm the vice chair.
[10:23] » Dave Green
>> and Jim Adams. We're all select Major
[10:29] Sylvester the Barn board chair.
>> I'm Gary Madden the vice chair.
[10:36] include
the rest of the room too since our folks
[10:42] had not been with us before.
[10:46] » Good evening everybody. My name is
Frank. I'm a res of
[10:52] welcome.
[11:08] » You want him to know
[11:12] he's in close proximity to where I live.
Okay.
[11:16] » You're beginning to sound a bit like
you know the [clears throat] iron works
[11:21] doesn't talk to four corners
to the north and south
[11:32] manager
>> superintendent public works
[11:37] police chiefs
[11:47] building.
[clears throat]
[11:55] Well, welcome home.
[12:01] [snorts]
[12:06] » [snorts]
>> probably
[12:14] at least it was spam.
[12:19] Sorry [snorts] about that.
[12:23] Uh
but back to what I was saying there
[12:28] there are so many areas potentially
a mutual benefit to talking together
[12:36] and working together. I mean the obvious
ones in the public safety arena and then
[12:43] they work together routinely anyway. We
don't need we don't need to tell them
[12:48] how to do things. But some of the other
things I I'm excited that you're
[12:55] standing up economic development
discussions again. I wish we timing was
[13:02] a little better. We our uh economic
development committee met at 4:30 in
[13:07] this room. So, uh it would have been
good. We could have
[13:13] exchange phone numbers or something. But
uh
[13:16] as you know I mean we're we're we're
both
[13:21] in some sort of economic struggles
[13:26] is about
[13:32] your town senators are kind of like
ours. They aren't what they want for
[13:38] right in terms of
businesses
[13:42] and interests.
[13:50] » So
there are there are certain things
[13:56] that the
[snorts] folks can certainly share and
[14:00] talk and learn and grow, you know.
[14:06] The thing that always comes to my mind
because uh
[14:11] instead of bringing our hands and
ruining the fact that uh highway 28 came
[14:17] to the valley 65 years ago, uh you know,
we need to learn to live with 28 and do
[14:24] something with it. And uh we probably
need to band together to get the state
[14:32] to let go of some of their restrictions
on what can happen longtermly
[14:40] because it's our understanding that
actually that was not a state initiative
[14:45] to begin with. was a Pfield initiative
that asked the state uh to to close off
[14:52] development thinking at the time uh that
it would preserve the downtown.
[14:59] Well,
that was a good guess, but not very
[15:03] accurate.
And so we turn loose to that and see
[15:09] what the real possible is. But uh but
there are many other and probably not so
[15:15] difficult uh things that we can do of
mutual interest to
[15:21] for the benefit of our citizens
[15:26] for some ifstead were to come back to
our schools
[15:33] or if we would suddenly go to mountain
that might help out [clears throat]
[15:38] people but
>> that's not board's perview. So, I can't
[15:43] forget I said that.
>> Yep.
[15:46] » That's another board's realm to work
out. But,
[15:50] » well, with the excuse me for
interrupting, but with the outcome of
[15:54] the special election last week,
[clears throat] we may be trying to
[15:58] pedal our kids somewhere because the
teachers are going to say twice and you
[16:03] don't want us. Well, hit the road. And
somebody said, "Well, they'll they'll
[16:07] have to pay $1,000 really to go
somewhere else and get 12,000 more."
[16:14] » It's a tough concept anyways. I mean,
Bar was facing it when we were going to
[16:19] Pittsfield.
>> Sure.
[16:21] » You know, the the tuition obviously the
tuition the cost per student was was
[16:27] rising all the time. It got to the point
that was like, what's what's more
[16:31] feasible here, you know? And that that's
how we ended up where we basically
[16:38] » it's amazing what damaged a couple of
arrogant [clears throat] so
[16:44] and I'm not talking about our barks and
things. talk about the idiots.
[16:49] Well, it's and certainly been a learning
exper my my entire adult life because I
[16:56] married a girl from Al
and
[17:01] back in the mid60s when uh Kingswood was
built
[17:07] » and uh initially all were supposed to be
a part of all that and then the the wise
[17:16] individuals in that town decided not to
be But their partnership with New Durham
[17:21] that had been like ours with with you
all that had gone on for more than 100
[17:28] years evaporated overnight and
her high school class from like 65 kids
[17:37] to 15
overnight
[17:42] last year.
And that managed to last all on their
[17:46] own until they needed a new building,
>> I think.
[17:50] » And then they had to go hunting for you
to make a new building.
[17:54] » This consolidation of the school system
should have happened a long long time
[17:58] ago. Um these towns are too small um all
the way around to to to fund it all by
[18:05] themselves. That's why the taxes are so
high. I mean, that's twothirds of your
[18:09] tax is easy,
>> you know. Um, this just should have
[18:13] happened a long time ago, but that that
was the past. Now we got to work where
[18:18] we go from here.
>> So, is there any particular place on 28
[18:24] you'd look for driveway access
potentially or any ideas of what you
[18:29] look to try to bring into town?
>> I know you're you're looking at me. I'm
[18:34] probably the wrong guy to question.
>> I'm just looking at you chair.
[18:38] Usually the chair and then
the question I have to confess
[18:47] the [snorts] farthest thing from a
business guy.
[18:53] » Well, since I was 18 years old, I was a
soldier and I I learned a great thing
[19:00] » and make a lot of noise, but I didn't
learn to develop
[19:04] uh businesses. Do we have
>> it seems well cases we were having art
[19:10] we were having a conversation earlier
about cases like the old Pittsville
[19:14] fairgrounds
which is a to my way of thinking it's a
[19:20] fairly level area of significant acreage
lots like that would be the places I
[19:26] would assume
businessminded people would want to
[19:30] develop uh
if there are some but
[19:36] You know, there are so many businesses
today that we encounter
[19:41] uh that
they're focused on the Epsom traffic
[19:47] circle and they're focused on the AL
traffic circle
[19:52] and those of us in part of Chai Chester
and all of Pittsfield and all of
[19:58] Barnstead, they're left high and dry. Uh
now I I mean that's basic geography. The
[20:04] demographics of th those traffic circles
where maybe
[20:09] somewhat significant roadways cross
they got lucky.
[20:16] Those of us out here in the middle have
to make it happen for ourselves.
[20:20] [clears throat]
>> Is that is there land that's owned by
[20:23] Pittsfield along 28?
>> No no I didn't think so.
[20:27] » But if I may, Mr. Chairman sir,
>> there is there's a bunch of private land
[20:33] » that would be accessible if
the state would open up there. I mean
[20:39] the land across from Glo.
>> Okay. that area,
[20:44] » the whole section from
actually Le Road out to upper city
[20:52] that would be accessible if
the state would open up or at least it
[20:57] would give the land owners an
opportunity to part with their land for
[21:02] because it would increase the value of
their land so they
[21:06] you know part with it things like that.
Um, so there is buildable land there.
[21:13] Seems like there's more buildable land
now than there ever has been. Just
[21:16] people put things everywhere now. Um, so
for us, that's where we run because we
[21:24] have no more driveway accessible areas
in Pittsfield for the state. We're done.
[21:32] We have no more driveway.
And when RA came to put their
[21:38] um now defunct uh drugstore in Pitts,
they went to the state, rumor has it,
[21:46] and they where the H property is now.
They I think it was 50 feet or before
[21:54] the H driveway. The state was trying
these people were trying to talk the
[22:00] state into putting in an an access road
that would go from 107 all the way up to
[22:07] upper city and then do the uh I guess
developing off that. But then they
[22:17] they got a I guess they got a great
opportunity with the place that they
[22:22] were down low.
that [clears throat] that was always one
[22:28] that people said, "Well, there's a good
deal of opportunity there because that's
[22:32] a pretty good stretch from upper city to
to 107 and some of it's maybe a little
[22:39] marshy and such, but
[clears throat]
[22:42] » yeah,
>> is a nice piece of propert."
[22:46] » Yeah.
>> And is that still in limbo?
[22:51] Well, I don't know that it's in
>> the conservation, but the family is
[22:57] trying to put on
>> Yeah, they're they're working
[23:01] quite hard on having it conserve
[23:06] and
you oldtimes,
[23:10] correct me if I'm wrong, but that there
was an area there adjacent to that where
[23:16] they looked at putting what is Prospect
Mountain School at one time.
[23:21] » Yes, that's the piece of land that is as
you go up to the BCP right now where
[23:29] that is. It was right on the right on
the corner all the way straight back to
[23:34] where the BCDP is now.
>> So in theory
[23:38] » up on that big hill.
>> So in theory that could be something in
[23:42] the future. And I do believe if I
remember all of the access to the school
[23:47] was going to be coming off 28 by the
Boston Pittsfield line. They were going
[23:52] to develop it that way instead of coming
having and uh there was even a thought
[23:58] of bringing water and sewer up to that
area so the school would have. Mhm.
[24:04] » So there was but that a lot of a lot of
push back because of the the potential
[24:12] of hazmat because that that's been
filled up at the end of that property
[24:18] for how long. So
>> but [clears throat] that piece of land
[24:22] was but that doesn't mean that today it
could rent something else that's
[24:27] compatible with
living next to the transfer stadium.
[24:35] So
there are ideas of planning for
[24:43] most of the people in the room know
better than I it's been a long struggle
[24:47] to
get to where we are today and
[24:52] most of us thus far on the negative side
we haven't been able to contain I'm sure
[24:59] you've seen the last 12 18 months here
in Bisfield. He's been writing
[25:05] [clears throat]
and
[25:09] I can't name the parent company of what
was Rusty Crust
[25:15] and a couple of others
significant economic
[25:22] leaving too.
So they he was at planning board last
[25:26] Thursday in Barnstead [clears throat]
>> proposing proposing to move his whole
[25:32] operation
in Baron.
[25:35] » So
>> well that's his roots and it's always
[25:41] the locks came from there.
>> Yeah. There's a certain logic associated
[25:47] with that and
where he is now to my way of thinking
[25:54] was kind of hinched
between 107
[25:58] and 28
much more than he's done.
[26:03] » I believe he rents there as well.
>> Yeah, I think you're right.
[26:08] » He rents off a west garage over there.
So, he's trying to consolidate
[26:12] everything.
>> Yep. Makes sense. So, makes sense.
[26:15] » But where he wants to go, there's
already a driveway already where he
[26:18] wants to go, so he doesn't have to get
one from the state.
[26:21] » Or it makes even more sense. So, it's
just [clears throat]
[26:24] » Is there something going right now?
>> Uh, there's a sign on the building, I'm
[26:30] told, that says Dollar General.
>> Oh, just we're going to have two of
[26:35] them. You can't beat that.
[laughter]
[26:42] » Don't worry, it won't be snapped.
[26:46] I say I am not a business guy, but if
it's a Dollar General, what's the impact
[26:51] on your Dollar General?
>> I don't know, but if it wants to put it
[26:56] out of business, we're okay.
[27:00] Ours goes to Als.
[27:07] Well, but it's going to have an impact
on the other business there, that
[27:11] dollar, whatever it is, they have a
family dollar or whatever. It's going to
[27:15] have an impact on Donny's um you know,
some of these smaller [snorts] smaller
[27:20] stores as well, you know, because they
sell all the regular stuff they do.
[27:25] » Out of just curiosity, interest, what is
going in building that popcorn place
[27:34] » commercial? It's a commercial popcorn
operation. Yep. Yeah,
[27:36] » they do wholesale sales.
>> Wow.
[27:39] » What's going on in there?
>> Look good. [laughter]
[27:44] » Are we going to have a renaissance in
corn farms?
[27:48] » I need to supply this place.
>> I'm actually interested to find out, you
[27:53] know, what what job opportunities there
there will be there. You know,
[27:57] » what what it takes for to run the place,
you know, but
[28:01] » I mean, it's kind of an odd
>> business. It's [clears throat] an
[28:05] interesting think about it. Maybe maybe
there's something behind it that we
[28:10] don't know about.
>> It's certainly a niche business.
[28:13] [clears throat]
>> Yeah.
[28:16] » Now, uh last last time we had talked
there was there was conversation about
[28:20] like a grocery store, smaller size
grocery store, something with like a
[28:24] pharmacy to try to get either between
two towns there.
[28:28] » Yeah, it would be interesting.
>> Well, I think
[28:33] this Dollar General
>> [clears throat]
[28:36] » is supposed to be different
than other dollars and it's supposed to
[28:41] have more groceries,
but that's
[28:46] » supposed to be a DM market.
>> And that's what that's what's on
[28:53] » Google.
They sell they sell produce and stuff
[28:58] like that. So theory that's coming.
We'll see.
[29:05] But I mean in some ways maybe that's a
good thing because competition with
[29:10] Donny's may make Donny's
do something
[29:18] » to to make themselves more competitive.
[29:23] [clears throat] We'll see. It'll be
interesting to see [snorts] who is going
[29:26] to be the I guess no that new in Chai
Chester that it's going to it's being
[29:33] called I'm told
>> Chai Chester market.
[29:36] » It's supposed to be a mini drugstore.
Rumor has it it might be something from
[29:42] associated grocerers
>> because they open today. the Sully
[29:47] stores. Those are
>> associated
[29:54] meat market and a fish market.
[clears throat]
[29:57] » What is that road?
>> Yeah,
[30:01] » he's the guy from healthy buffalo. I
think
[30:04] » he's got those meats in there as well.
>> We had that open today. They did a soft
[30:11] opening today.
[30:15] Right.
[30:20] » The the real problem is
can't have our uh chief of police and
[30:26] his his patrolman out there telling
people you come into Pittsfield, we want
[30:31] you to build a business,
>> right?
[30:34] » I think we're in big trouble with that.
>> Yeah, I think that's probably limited
[30:39] success.
So for right now then we should probably
[30:43] concentrate on purchasing,
>> right?
[30:46] » I think the two of us
certainly an area
[30:52] » before I I would love to start seeing
your economic committee meet with our
[30:56] economic committee and see if they can't
move forward on some of these things
[31:02] and start that process because I think
that would be a because it's going to be
[31:06] a process. So the sooner we start it,
the better we all off we are.
[31:10] » Um, now we can go to the idea of
the usual purchasing and stuff like
[31:16] that.
>> Were you able to uh recruit enough
[31:21] people for that committee or anybody for
that?
[31:24] » We've
got five.
[31:28] » So it's been ongoing and new blood to it
would be fantastic. So
[31:35] » just new ideas and new and new blood is
always a positive thing.
[31:39] » Yeah.
>> Do you guys have a representative that
[31:43] sits on that committee?
>> Me
[31:47] business guy,
>> right?
[31:50] I was going to ask like what what kind
of ideas are they
[31:53] » right now?
>> Well, the last few years we we've been
[31:57] concentrating on
kind of some ancillary like solar
[32:02] development.
things that
[32:08] as you know we out there by Doug and
Doris
[32:12] uh there was a solar farm on on that
happens to be on private land
[32:18] but we've been working on developing
solar for
[32:24] uh to be built on public or town land
public land um for a couple of reasons.
[32:32] one we had to land another supplied
essentially free electricity for town
[32:40] properties uh for this building for the
highway department police department
[32:45] » all of that would would become free.
We're sort of held up at the moment
[32:52] uh because
coming right along with this, we're like
[32:58] many other towns in New Hampshire, we're
we're having to seriously consider
[33:04] replacement of our wastewater treatment
facility uh because it no longer meets
[33:10] federal standards. And so
[clears throat] and it's beyond its
[33:16] projected lifetime when it was built and
technology is significantly changed
[33:23] which is somewhat of an opportunity for
us because the the newer plants do not
[33:29] employ I'm told uh the lagoon systems
that we all grew up with. And if our
[33:38] lagoons were to go away, uh, we have
acres available for solar farming right
[33:46] there and would not have to
cut down woods to any great extent.
[33:52] Would not have to reshape. They're all
It's already leveled. So,
[33:56] » uh, so we're kind of moving out on the
replacement of the wastewater treatment
[34:03] facility, which hopefully might spin off
into opportunities for for solar power,
[34:10] additional solar power. We in truth we
somewhat get held up technologically
[34:17] because we the the current wastewater
treatment plant happens to be outside of
[34:25] the present reach of three-phase power.
>> Uh so that was adding to the expense.
[34:32] the idea of running lines
uh in three-phase was going to add to
[34:38] the expense and so we're kind of
treading water at the moment but
[34:45] still looking at at doing those sorts of
things.
[34:50] We do have a just based on the meeting
from a couple hours ago,
[34:55] we do have a
[35:00] a phone conversation coming up this next
week with our our representative
[35:07] Maggie Goodlander
to
[35:12] kind of beat her up and pick her brain
on what's available federally
[35:18] uh for small towns like us from the
federal level. And so I'm kind of
[35:24] looking forward to that discussion with
we're bound to learn more about what is
[35:31] or is not available
from her perspective. I mean, obviously,
[35:37] one Congress representative isn't
speaking [clears throat] for the entire
[35:43] Congress, but uh she and her staff may
may be aware of what programs or monies
[35:50] are available to play with in a small
place like Newampshire.
[35:56] So, more to follow on that.
[36:04] So I guess we move to the next section.
I mean we had discussed public forex and
[36:12] and the sol. So I I guess we have a new
public forex director
[36:19] with Dakota. Um
I don't know if we've had a chance to
[36:24] talk about cunnage of what you guys use,
what we use, if we can come down to a
[36:29] mutual
agreement. So we can get the buying
[36:33] power
>> um to purchase the larger volumes of
[36:38] that stuff.
>> I don't know if we can get a public
[36:43] works directors to talk and see if we
can figure that out. Maybe come up
[36:47] because when do you guys go and bid on
us?
[36:50] » I mean we haven't yet. So
>> I have that written down
[36:54] » because you guys use Mortens, right?
>> We what
[36:56] » use Mortens?
>> Yeah,
[36:57] » for salt. Yeah. Yeah, that was my
>> Yeah, we use that
[37:03] » state.
>> Okay.
[37:07] [snorts]
[37:10] » What goes out though? We usually roughly
estimate like 6,000 yards what we get,
[37:17] but we also get um
38 stone.
[37:23] So
our winter sand piles outside
[37:28] they dump the stone on the bottom of it
and then as a dump of sand on top of it
[37:32] and then as they go in the pile from the
the time it mixes itself with the dirt
[37:37] roads. So, so I mean I I think it would
be
[37:44] pretty important for our two road agents
to get together
[37:48] directors to get together and come up
with a an amount that we both and see
[37:53] what that does with our buying power.
Maybe it helped maybe it doesn't I don't
[37:56] know
>> something we could go down that I think
[38:00] that's an easy one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
[38:02] » Um I was going to suggest to go, you
know, we [clears throat] we have a nice
[38:07] diner
down the way at the friendly diner.
[38:11] Maybe the two supervisors have some
coffee and a donut
[38:18] and talk about me as a mutual something
else.
[38:23] » Great breakfast.
[38:27] » They do have a good breakfast. So
>> I was going to try to expense with them.
[38:31] » Yeah.
[38:34] I there's a great advantage to that.
>> Yeah.
[38:38] » Salt, sand, you know, gravel.
>> Yep.
[38:41] » Something could be done with that. I
think it' be great if they sat down and
[38:45] » Yeah, I I do too.
>> And I believe we're mostly propane,
[38:48] right? Don't know if we can do anything
with them. Yeah, we talked about fuel.
[38:54] » Yeah, we have old propane and heating
oil,
[38:57] » but diesel, you know, diesel. Yeah,
we've got the off the the diesel pump
[39:01] there. So, uh everything for us for
diesel wise is all onroad diesel. Then
[39:07] town hall sub to get reimbured for what
gets used on the equipment.
[39:12] [clears throat]
So,
[39:14] um
>> where is your diesel?
[39:16] » At our highway garage. So, um it's up
there. Fire has keys to it. They'll have
[39:21] key slots. Um so, we keep track of every
every vehicle what they use uh every
[39:26] month. So for that now your
your hobby department for winter sand.
[39:34] Do you guys usually truck it yourself or
is it all trucked in?
[39:38] » Um we mix it up if we need we don't have
the time and don't need to truck it
[39:42] ourselves or get it from Earth haul it
[clears throat] in for us.
[39:46] » Yep. So we we don't ever haul haul it in
ourselves. We just let them haul it in.
[39:52] um
it keeps our highway department on the
[39:55] roads doing what they need to do. And
does it cost more? Yes. But if you look
[40:00] at the long term, you're actually save
money in long term,
[40:03] » right?
>> What it is. So,
[40:04] » right.
>> Um but that's just something just going
[40:07] into bidwise knowing what's going to be
delivered or picked up um wise.
[40:14] So,
[40:18] uh,
[40:22] » the other thing we talked about was a
move station.
[40:26] » I was going to bring that up. We have
Yeah.
[40:30] [clears throat]
You guys had a
[40:33] » Yeah. By Nemo
and actually Nemo,
[40:38] right?
[40:41] Yeah. The only it's either Tri Chester
or Holland, but I don't remember. Try
[40:48] had gas. I think their was just diesel.
>> Yeah.
[40:51] » You remember,
>> will
[40:56] we get diesel? Yeah. Or you get
>> We get
[41:05] gas too.
[41:10] all the goals, but it would be nice to
have something closer.
[41:13] » So eventually, so especially if there's
a financial disaster or something,
[41:19] » right?
>> So
[41:21] I know I know I remember where we've had
to go into conquer to try to fuel up
[41:25] cruisers before.
So that's you rais an interesting
[41:30] question that here in Pittsfield
not too far away now down now down now
[41:37] down now down now down now down now down
now down now down now down now by where
[41:38] the old writing is the new DM is it
right there the state three of the
[41:46] state's highway districts converge
and it could make an awful lot of sense
[41:52] if the state were to put a fuel
site somewhere in the proximity because
[41:58] they've got vehicles from three
districts
[42:02] running around here all the time.
[42:07] » They have to
ask our legislators to
[42:12] » Well, now used to be the patrol.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and so why did they
[42:21] » the tanks were leaking and instead of
>> fixing them, they got rid of it.
[42:27] [clears throat]
>> But this may be a new era. And if the
[42:31] state were running a facility that could
be tapped into by the towns,
[42:38] » that might not be a bad thing.
[42:46] I didn't
think it's conquered though. There's
[42:51] like seven or eight towns that go in
with conquered the city of conquered to
[42:55] purchase fuel, gas, diesel, heating oil.
[43:02] It's been a while since I looked at
that, but want to say I want to say
[43:04] there was like seven or eight towns I
went in with conquered though that they
[43:08] all pulled together.
>> Oh, that's some serious
[43:13] purchasing power.
>> It doesn't. Yeah. You run the risk of
[43:17] you have a set price for the whole year
potentially. [clears throat]
[43:20] So you don't have the fluctuations,
>> but if it's set and the price goes high,
[43:25] then you still have it set. So if it
goes low, well,
[43:31] you're bad.
>> Yep.
[43:33] » So, but it may be easier budgeting wise
though. and and in theory over time
[43:40] uh that that would work itself
>> to be pretty stable.
[43:47] [clears throat]
>> Yeah. I'm not sure how much of a deal
[43:50] we're actually getting, but some of
those state ones are I use the one at
[43:54] home which is used by the state troopers
>> and the state trucks and you know I use
[44:01] it for the gas but
you know when I'm going to fill up it's
[44:06] like nine bucks so it's somewhere around
lots of gallons
[44:10] » you know I mean
>> that doesn't really sound like a
[44:15] really good savings
>> for us
[44:20] going to work.
[44:26] » Yeah. To save for
>> Yeah. Not
[44:31] going to have to be some
>> very local, you know.
[44:35] » Yeah. I mean, our state department, they
kept an eye on that. We'll just see how
[44:39] price it is versus what we use is there.
And they I mean, they're not going to
[44:42] take take a vehicle to go to Walmart
just to fill it up. they go to the
[44:46] highway garage, but if they're on their
way back, they may
[44:52] sense and course all of our ambulance
crews that are running to conquer
[44:59] » all the time.
>> Well, they need to be filled all the
[45:02] time because they could be on the way
back and get another call
[45:06] » back and just
[45:12] » Hey, I'm doing all the talking here,
guys.
[45:25] No new blazing ideas.
>> Well, next meeting cupcakes.
[45:31] » Okay.
[45:35] » Cupcakes.
Um, to change the subject a little bit,
[45:40] what have you, what have you guys heard
about what they the state is going to do
[45:44] with your dam.
>> Although I knew I I was going to hit
[45:49] him.
>> Yeah. Sorry.
[45:52] » They're going to raise it five feet.
>> They are going to keep it. Raise it five
[45:56] feet.
>> The one on Valley Dam. Yeah. For upper
[46:00] and lower.
>> That's the one up near Valley Dam. So
[46:02] that's on.
>> Okay. Okay. Yeah. So they they are going
[46:07] to allow you to keep your lake at least.
Yeah.
[46:10] » But they're going to raise it which is
going to remove some water frontage
[46:14] little houses that are on the lake. Is
that what I think it probably have more
[46:18] impact on downstream?
>> Yeah. The downstream state water.
[46:23] » Yeah. Um
>> but the Sun has a lot of different
[46:26] avenues. Um the Sun River does
>> on what what actually goes in there. So,
[46:32] I mean it it's probably going to be a
little less
[46:37] » and they're talking about doing all the
dams.
[46:39] » Yeah. Yeah. The reason why I bring that
up is because the same communication
[46:44] from the damn bureau was with I am here.
Um they haven't approached us per se
[46:49] with a solid plane. But the rumor is to
do this to not to raise it five feet to
[46:57] remove it. So,
>> well, they were they were talking about
[47:01] that one in the braid for us,
>> right?
[47:03] » Yeah.
>> So,
[47:07] [clears throat]
>> I don't know how that's going to work.
[47:09] No, we're going to have an
>> They're planning to start in all
[47:15] » removing the dam there by their DPW.
Take take that out.
[47:22] » Yeah. New Durham, too. I think they're
somewhere around there.
[47:27] mechs
[47:34] will be done next year.
>> It's going to have a huge impact on
[47:39] pretty much all
[47:46] » opportunity to develop salmon fishing.
>> We'll be all ready for the thousand year
[47:52] storm.
You have to seems like maybe 100 years
[47:57] storm every 10 years,
>> right?
[48:02] » We're going to we're going to deal with
our stock talking Scott that way.
[48:07] » Y
>> perfect.
[48:13] » Chiefs,
all of our usual
[48:18] compacts are all up to date and good.
what you're happy with.
[48:30] [snorts]
[48:38] » You guys are better experienced at this
mutually for decades.
[48:47] » [clears throat]
>> I'm sure you know all the nooks and
[48:50] crannies.
[48:55] » I mean, even just the the training
[clears throat]
[48:57] that they the two of them have been
doing over the years, you know, not just
[49:03] mindset, but I mean try
>> going on with you too.
[49:06] » Yeah, absolutely. Everybody's got
everybody's pitching [clears throat] in.
[49:10] So,
>> so
[49:13] slowly but surely.
>> Yep. Would
[49:16] it be you know almost like
would it be good if we reached out to
[49:24] other maybe the start with the four that
are working together
[49:29] every day that maybe for example
purchasing
[49:34] equipment and I don't mean new fire
trucks I'm talking about fire hose and
[49:38] the stuff if we were to get four
communities in on that
[49:43] » the price should be reflected a little
bit better for these guys.
[49:47] » All all the communities go ahead and
similar stuff.
[49:51] » It is, but the big problem is to get
each town to agree
[49:56] » on a certain type of
>> certain um and in the past that works
[50:01] for a couple towns, but then there's
always one throws in
[50:06] the small ones. Definitely regional
grants.
[50:10] » Oh, that's right. Don't worry.
>> No. Well, there's also a a replacement
[50:14] cycle that you guys follow, too. I mean,
not everybody's [clears throat] on the
[50:17] same cycle.
>> You might not even need them this year
[50:21] or next year, but that they're three
years out or something, you know.
[50:26] » That may be something over time that we
can shoot for
[50:30] » is that the radar cycles.
>> Yeah.
[50:33] » You got to wear them out a little early.
[laughter]
[50:37] » Host testing. Yeah. the host. Now that
is a requirement, isn't it? That's what
[50:42] I thought.
>> That's when we saw that you gave us the
[50:47] what was it? Multicolored hoses and it
was a very interesting thing. But they
[50:53] if they one of those let go the fire
somebody took it seriously.
[51:04] And I'm sure Pete already does it, but
the scheduling maybe again like we had
[51:10] talked about making sure that we both
have adequate coverage for our
[51:15] parameters and stuff like that. I think
you've already started that a little bit
[51:20] making sure right that
>> he might he might not
[51:27] only is his third week.
>> Okay. So
[51:30] » all right. over. So that's something
that has to be worked on worked out
[51:36] money side, but we certainly would help
entertain that very well. But then
[51:40] there's a union, there's a whole right,
there's a whole we can help each other
[51:44] out easy, but then it comes to the
money,
[51:47] » right?
>> Yep.
[51:48] » And with that same compact idea, not
just fire hose, but every community has
[51:55] got ambulances. And I would expect like
everything else, anything that says
[51:59] medical is five times more expensive
than if you get it in a drugstore. Maybe
[52:04] that those purchases could be kind of
because that's the stuff we use all the
[52:09] time. I believe
we get a lot of it from Conquer Hospital
[52:15] right now, but certainly we do get
certain needles and equipment that we go
[52:20] in with each other to purchase. They
allow you to stock up before you leave.
[52:25] You drop some money off and they stock
up.
[52:28] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[52:29] » That would be going to the wayside. So,
[clears throat]
[52:32] » well, they're a business now. They
always were a nonprofit. Now they're
[52:37] conquered hospital.
>> They on deliver.
[52:49] So, that's when they need to. So,
[53:02] anything we can do, you know.
>> Yeah. Police have to work with police on
[53:07] what where they might be able to
purchase items [snorts] invoke or to
[53:11] gather fire with fire
and you know nickel safe is a nickel
[53:16] city right that's having apartments
[53:23] unfortunately the highway park is a
little different
[53:29] way more dirt roads
guys
[53:33] [snorts] I
But that even even again going to the
[53:37] small things. I mean fluids, I mean
oils, greases, all that stuff. If there
[53:44] was a way that we could do it in a bulk.
Um I I don't know. This is way off base
[53:51] probably, but I don't even know if we
have the same equipment. We have the
[53:54] same trucks and we carry some parts
here. You guys carry some parts there.
[53:58] And a truck breaks down in the middle of
a storm. We could call on each other and
[54:01] say, "Hey, do you have this so we can
get back? Either one of us can get back
[54:05] on the road."
>> Anything like that would benefit both
[54:09] communities.
>> Well, and like nothing against
[54:13] here.
>> It is. Yeah.
[54:16] » But
they're they're Napa Napa and Birming
[54:20] Napa too. But yet Napa will be half the
price of
[54:25] » these guys. So like a lot of us come
right from
[54:30] Yeah. They'll deliver to that. I know
they'll deliver here because he he's
[54:34] gotten state for filters in general and
he'll he will do Dan will do two runs
[54:40] into Conquer every day is what he'll do.
And he'll go right down 28 to go into
[54:45] Conquer go back. So if it's either on
his way there or way back they'll stop
[54:50] and drop stuff off. So
>> that may be something that you may want
[54:55] to check into.
>> Yeah, I mean I know there are local
[55:01] local
that's been here for years, but dolls
[55:04] are all
>> well that at the end of the day it's
[55:08] » I'm somebody that I like local
businesses but you have to look at the
[55:11] financial side of it the same thing for
half the price. It's nothing against
[55:15] them. It's
>> you've got to be financially responsible
[55:18] on the board.
>> Right. Exactly. But some of that may
[55:22] generate change,
>> right?
[55:25] » Right.
>> If I I would think if a business knows
[55:29] they're losing business to somebody
who's undercutting the prices,
[55:33] » right?
>> Then maybe something good can come out
[55:38] something for the community.
>> Yeah.
[55:42] » Because all of us I mean we got to
squeeze the nickel to the right.
[55:49] Yeah. I mean, and currently right now,
like the majority of our maintenance up
[55:54] at Highway, they don't do it. Um, we've
told them to outsource it all just
[55:59] because either that they're not
qualified or they're not comfortable
[56:03] doing it and we don't want to have that
liability on them. So, it makes it e
[56:08] easier and yes, it keeps them on the
road. They're not in the shop. It's nice
[56:13] to finish up on a rainy day, snowing,
you know, first snowtorm eventually to
[56:17] get to go through things, but
we have to look at it what their
[56:21] capabilities are, too.
Is it
[56:27] » maybe we ought to find a decent mechanic
and split his salary. [laughter]
[56:32] » That's a great idea. That's kind that's
kind of where I honestly was going with
[56:36] it because like we talked about
purchasing fluids [snorts] in bulk, but
[56:39] there's no point to purchase them really
in bulk potentially other than maybe
[56:43] hydraulic fluid because okay, they blow
a hydraulic line in the middle of wear
[56:47] time. We have a setup to make hydraulic
hoses in our shop. So we can just make
[56:51] them themselves and they just got to
fill the hydraulic tank and off they go.
[56:54] » But outside of that, they don't really
keep much bulk fluids there just except
[56:59] to top off. It's always been amazing to
me [clears throat]
[57:03] that
all these towns in New Hampshire or, you
[57:07] know, anywhere in Northern New England
that that were operating these
[57:11] apartments on such as Houston
mostly it's [clears throat] too small
[57:16] for 24-hour day operations, but but not
having a mechanic on scene.
[57:23] » Yep. uh that is your mechanic that does
well not only the highway they would
[57:28] have to you know that has to expand to
the fire and you know and changing oil
[57:34] in the police cars and the air filters
and all that sort of stuff. I don't know
[57:40] how any of us get by without inhouse
mechanisms
[57:44] on that as well looking into that
possibly
[57:48] » and I mean you know we're always
breaking problems.
[57:51] » Yeah. And to [clears throat] have a guy
who can, you know, bring it by and I'm
[57:55] welding it in 10 minutes rather than
having to go to hooks it.
[57:59] » Yeah.
>> And to have a plow welded.
[58:03] » I mean, there's typically something that
breaks every day highway.
[58:06] » Y
>> Yes.
[58:08] » Every day.
>> It's the nature of the beast.
[58:10] » Unfortunately, you're right. It is.
>> That's a wonderful idea.
[58:17] » Question whether we had enough cold time
again. I think we absolutely do.
[58:23] And we go to fire east small fire
vehicles and police highway itself.
[58:31] » But maybe if we were find a way to start
small and be half time
[58:36] » well
[58:40] until we figure out the finances of it.
>> Well, there's that and whoever
[58:46] potentially gets hired, they need to
know their capabilities, what's expected
[58:49] of them. So me personally, I don't want
them rebuilding rebuilding an engine in
[58:54] the shop. No, send that out,
>> right?
[58:56] » Like it should literally going to be
just the basics. Keep it going. So,
[59:00] » well, because many of our there are
certain warranties and guarantees with
[59:05] that [clears throat]
it needs to go to
[59:09] white or Mac or whatever the truck brand
is in order to get it particular. Well,
[59:14] that's something that they can keep they
that person can keep track of because
[59:17] we've had
>> we've had vehicles that have had
[59:22] extended warranties on them and nobody
knew about it until after the fact and
[59:27] we've already paid and because one
because the work wasn't done at the
[59:32] dealer, we couldn't get reimbured for
it. So, we've already paid an
[59:36] aftermarket shop. I'm sure we've all got
that somewhere along the line.
[59:43] » As much as people casing and maintaining
their own vehicles, it's still the fact
[59:48] that you have a mechanic here that has
all the records and it's computerizing.
[59:53] No, that truck stays here today. I've
got things to do with instead of it
[59:57] going out on the roads down and we're
fixing it after the fact.
[1:00:03] [snorts]
I think it's pretty responsive to do
[1:00:06] that. I think there's plenty of work for
a mechanic and then like you said we did
[1:00:10] it together possibly see how it would
work out split the time
[1:00:16] » something
[1:00:20] [clears throat] a mechan a trained
mechanic may also be a trained operator
[1:00:26] and when he hasn't got the mechanic work
to do he's operating something
[1:00:31] » I know a few years ago we uh we looked
into that and I was a little Well, a
[1:00:37] good trained mechanic is going to want
to do mechanics. They're not going to
[1:00:40] want to go north. Right.
>> Absolutely.
[1:00:42] » And I got kind of shot down there and
they put their ad out for plowing and
[1:00:47] running equipment when he's not busy
with mechanics and they got zero
[1:00:51] applications.
>> So, and I got a feeling they would have
[1:00:55] got applications and was strictly a
mechanic.
[1:00:58] » I mean, if if they have nothing,
>> they're they're looking over what's
[1:01:03] coming up next. Yeah. potentially,
>> you know, what do they have for for
[1:01:07] parts, what do they need to order, you
know,
[1:01:09] » or tracking those records from work.
Yeah.
[1:01:13] » All that
means
[1:01:17] » Oh, yeah.
>> This is another rabbit hole
[1:01:23] [clears throat] to run down. It's only
Allen's question because it's a it's a
[1:01:28] big question in Pittsfield right now. Uh
what is your department highway
[1:01:33] department's responsibilities toward
your cemeteries?
[1:01:38] » They don't touch them.
>> We
[1:01:43] » they don't touch them.
>> We hire them out.
[1:01:48] » A lot of a lot of them are taken care of
with neighbors.
[1:01:50] » Neighbors, but there's the actual the
cemetery committee.
[1:01:53] » Then the cemetery committee,
>> they take care of them all. So
[1:01:58] » well and and we do have a board of
trustees for the cemetery and our
[1:02:04] history is at least our recent history
is that it's a contract type of
[1:02:11] situation handled by
but when the voters killed the budget
[1:02:18] there was no budget for maintaining the
cemeteries. Yep.
[1:02:22] » And
that that lasted a relatively short time
[1:02:27] before the torches and pitchforks came
out that we weren't maintaining the
[1:02:32] cemeteries. And now suddenly it's a
grand idea that the highway department
[1:02:37] should maintain the cemeteries
and
[1:02:42] » well don't most of these have a
committee or an association established
[1:02:46] with them? like I don't really
buy
[1:02:53] » board of trustees and stuff like that
but
[1:02:56] » but if they don't have a budget
>> I know that that's not a town maintained
[1:03:01] cemetery
>> right so that's a private just like our
[1:03:04] Catholic cemetery in Northro is a
private cemetery that we don't oversee
[1:03:09] we're talking about the town okay
>> owned maintained cemetery which you guys
[1:03:14] only have one of those two right
>> we got a
[1:03:17] We have my last there's over a hund of
them in town that the cemetery committee
[1:03:24] is responsible for maintaining.
>> Like I said, a lot of that's
[1:03:30] they
>> a lot of them are small. You know,
[1:03:34] they're not
>> there's $3,000 in the budget for them to
[1:03:37] maintain all all of them. And that's
either mowing, weed whacking, trimming
[1:03:41] branches, cutting down trees. $3,000
>> and a lot of them a lot of them
[1:03:46] volunteer a lot of time too to do it. So
usually the $3,000 is spent on having
[1:03:51] somebody come in and either cut a tree
or tree limbs. That's usually what it
[1:03:54] gets spent on
>> or a few maybe something you know. But
[1:03:58] yeah,
>> well it it
[1:04:01] one I can't remember what year it was
but our main cemetery was a private
[1:04:08] association until very
>> 15 until very recently when
[1:04:15] » that doesn't work backwards
>> essent well essentially the state that
[1:04:19] we did not have a town well we had a
town cemetery which happens to be over
[1:04:23] by the old meeting house
>> but nobody had been buried there. You
[1:04:27] see 60s
technically closed cemetery. Well, towns
[1:04:34] can't have closed cemeteries. They have
to have an operational cemetery. So, uh,
[1:04:40] when when the association's budget got
low,
[1:04:45] the town had to take over the cemetery
for solve their budget problem, but
[1:04:51] solve the town's political problem of
not having a designated cemetery.
[1:04:59] But then [clears throat] the great
question that seems to be on everybody's
[1:05:02] mind today, is it somehow part of the
highway department [snorts] versus
[1:05:09] They made contract arrangement
[clears throat]
[1:05:11] which could all be said solved by
passing budget I mean our department
[1:05:18] they don't have a lawn mower they don't
have a push mower they don't have ride
[1:05:21] on mower they don't do any other other
than roadside mowing that's it
[1:05:26] » so even the the lawn mower around town
all there PD fire library that all gets
[1:05:32] contracted out for [clears throat] us
>> although we have had some pretty good
[1:05:37] deals that contract.
[1:05:42] » Does each department pay for that
contract or is it all
[1:05:45] » It's all encompassing under
>> the general buildings line item there.
[1:05:55] Yeah.
[1:05:58] Yeah. We have we have a line item that
says all uh all government building
[1:06:03] maintenance and it falls under that. So,
>> [snorts]
[1:06:12] » We typically budget $40,000 for all of
our municipal buildings. So, we're over
[1:06:19] spent right now on it. We over spent
last year on it, too. Last year was more
[1:06:26] than 100 grand. We over spent.
>> We got hit with a couple of
[1:06:30] » So,
>> items that were unanticipated.
[1:06:32] » Yeah. that um
we're unprepared for high dollars.
[1:06:39] » Yeah.
>> Heat systems, stuff like that.
[1:06:44] » Every time.
>> Yeah.
[1:06:46] » Heat system, filtration systems there,
water.
[1:06:51] » So,
generator.
[1:06:56] » Oh, yeah.
>> Generator services there and repairs.
[1:07:01] So, but we learned something. But
[1:07:06] it didn't go unnoticed.
>> Premaintenance is pre-maintenance. Put a
[1:07:11] little extra here, a little extra there.
>> But then we're all out of office and
[1:07:15] whoever comes after is wearing it again.
>> Well, yeah, that's true.
[1:07:21] Hopefully, we can clear the path a
little bit.
[1:07:26] » Yeah.
So,
[1:07:31] Do you have any else that we really want
to cover? We don't want to keep you here
[1:07:37] forever.
>> So, do you mind if I ask the public if
[1:07:43] they have any comments because I know
Steve has some ideas and I'm curious
[1:07:47] what his ideas are while we are both
here.
[1:07:49] » Yeah. Wanted to back to the economic
development talking about the beginning
[1:07:56] of the meeting.
>> Yep. Is anybody familiar with tax
[1:07:59] increments of financing districts at
all? So, they can be very dangerous.
[1:08:04] They can be very good. And I think a lot
of that's how they're structured. But in
[1:08:09] a nutshell, what it involves is taxpayer
dollars being expended to create site
[1:08:16] work and a site where a developer could
come in without putting out hundreds of
[1:08:22] thousands of dollars perhaps on site
work, but they come in and build their
[1:08:26] building. Their their taxes go toward
paying the bond which the municipality
[1:08:32] takes out in order to do the site work.
And as that bond is paid off, then the
[1:08:37] municipality starts generating tax
revenue. So it can be dangerous. Um if
[1:08:43] you using Rochester as an example, if
you go up Route 11, that entirety of the
[1:08:48] left side of Route 11 is all fixed and
that involves uh there's there's
[1:08:53] Walmart. It's huge. And there's another
a huge area going in. But their mistake
[1:08:59] was they used it for residential
development which is terrible instead of
[1:09:04] focusing on certain commercial
development. [clears throat] So they're
[1:09:07] going to end up getting hurt thing but
might be something to have a
[1:09:11] conversation on. I'm typically an
opponent of it. When I was on the
[1:09:16] Rochester [clears throat] City Council,
I actually voted against it u when they
[1:09:20] wanted to expand it. you might want to
figure um it might be a way to get some
[1:09:27] heavy tax paying commercial
[clears throat] industrial into this
[1:09:30] into our towns. And you know, face it,
if we don't do that, our our tax rate is
[1:09:36] going to continue to go up. We need to
get more commercial industrial. It's the
[1:09:39] only answer to to the high cost and
reputation that we need. [clears throat]
[1:09:44] You know, big
industry or commercial doesn't put it in
[1:09:48] kids schools. So we don't have that $30
odd,000 a year education cost for every
[1:09:54] house that's sold per. So industry, you
know, might pay $100,000 a year in
[1:10:01] taxes. So it's something to consider.
You might want to have a conversation
[1:10:05] going forward.
>> Well, that that's a great idea and it's
[1:10:08] a great conversation to have, but we
have that one slight problem that we
[1:10:12] discussed earlier. We don't have access
to any land to do that
[1:10:20] » because we don't have the driveway
capability. We can't put a driveway in.
[1:10:24] I can't pick I can't pick the old
fairgrounds and say I want to use that
[1:10:30] because we have no access off 28.
>> We have a limited access highway. So,
[1:10:36] back
in the 60s or so when they did it, um,
[1:10:42] yeah, it was probably 10 years after
Route 28 was put in, our select board
[1:10:49] asked the state to make it a limited
access highway because they didn't want
[1:10:54] it hurt the downtown.
stole the preserve from downtown
[1:11:00] » and what it did is it destroyed the
downtown because nobody came downtown.
[1:11:05] They stayed on the highway. They stayed
on 28. So they don't come down. So our
[1:11:11] problem now is to overcome that. We have
to go back and beg the state to change
[1:11:17] something that we asked for
[clears throat]
[1:11:20] back then which was shortsighted. Um the
the the intent is good but the results
[1:11:28] was awful. So
we have to now that's why then the next
[1:11:34] step would be your idea to be looking
into that. We had to overcome that first
[1:11:39] hurdle.
>> I see that
[1:11:43] problem.
>> Yep. Unless you were able to get
[1:11:46] industrial doesn't need the frontage on
28 but that's too much industry being
[1:11:51] built
right
[1:11:54] coming out of China right
>> well thank knock on wood we we do still
[1:12:01] have globe in place uh and we have we
have a couple of other [snorts]
[1:12:08] operator Mike Podmore the uh fastener
folks that here and if if they could
[1:12:17] attract
likeminded
[1:12:22] uh individuals then I think we we go
faring
[1:12:27] some ground work for that to be
successful.
[1:12:30] » Now where are they
across
[1:12:35] the highway from
>> the
[1:12:39] weaving mill? Okay. Loud.
>> Right. If you walk over Yeah.
[1:12:44] » Just pass on the left hand side. Yep.
>> Okay. Yeah.
[1:12:49] » Who's it going to take if you don't mind
asking to ask us
[1:12:54] like
[1:12:58] » basically
[1:13:02] for
the legislators?
[1:13:08] It has to be just
>> if I were doing it today, I'd go to
[1:13:14] Pearl.
>> I think now's the time to do it.
[1:13:18] » Electing good reps that are willing to
stand up and fight for you.
[1:13:22] » Thank you.
>> Is pretty [clears throat] important
[1:13:24] because I know our reps are into some
major things right now. They're really
[1:13:29] fighting about egg packaging and that's
really helping us a lot, you know, with
[1:13:33] all of these issues. I mean, the state
is what mandating schools all the time.
[1:13:38] We're what about a 26% difference in
what we're supposed to be getting?
[1:13:42] That's a lot of money. That would help
the taxpayers right there. And our reps
[1:13:46] are
>> Yeah. They're supporting it and they're
[1:13:49] and they're concerned with the eggs.
>> Yeah.
[1:13:51] » So, I I think electing good reps that
are ready to get up there and you can
[1:13:55] see and hear what they're doing makes
helps us with things. Get in there and
[1:13:59] if you're going to keep mandating, give
us more money like they're supposed to
[1:14:02] be doing. And then it falls on the
school. The schools, you know, their
[1:14:06] budget's crazy. There's a reason why,
you know, the mandates don't stop.
[1:14:11] Sometimes for good reason and sometimes
they're a little ridiculous. And I I I
[1:14:15] really think the elections and the reps
is pretty important. People are willing
[1:14:19] to get out and fight. That helps all of
us, helps all of them. So that's
[1:14:25] something a little interesting too.
>> And we also have our executive
[1:14:28] councilman
>> because sometimes if we can get him in
[1:14:34] the right direction.
>> Does he cover?
[1:14:36] » I does you have Stephen you guys have
>> Yeah. Stephen.
[1:14:40] » Yeah.
[1:14:44] » Are you your district?
>> He was
[1:14:48] in the 90. I just stop.
[1:14:52] » Yeah, he's he's
>> Yeah. So, Steven I thought that Barnsted
[1:14:56] in the last turnover and you picked them
up. So, we got the same councilman
[1:15:02] » and they've got that could be
advantageous because we don't have the
[1:15:06] same
across the county line.
[1:15:12] » We may have the same senator.
Yes,
[1:15:15] » we do have you have Steven because we we
do it.
[1:15:18] » Yeah, we have John Steven is our
>> uh executive.
[1:15:24] » So, remember this is an election year.
>> So, I'm trying to reach out to Howard
[1:15:28] and ask him to make it an election
issue.
[1:15:30] » Well, I I sat next to Howard when I was
over there, so I don't mind reaching
[1:15:35] out.
>> Me, too.
[1:15:42] That would be a good shot if we did if
we had that.
[1:15:49] » Yeah, absolutely.
>> Because one's going to feed off the
[1:15:53] other. If we could start something here,
the next thing you know, it's going to
[1:15:56] feed on you guys. Or if you did the same
thing down there, it's going to feed on.
[1:16:01] It's just it's an attraction thing. We
just need to the light to have the flies
[1:16:06] come to it.
have them in say, you know, what are you
[1:16:09] going to do?
>> Tell us what you're going to do and then
[1:16:12] show us you're going to be
>> to help us
[1:16:22] any other avenue that anybody wants to
discuss
[1:16:26] everyone here.
>> Do you know when your next assessment
[1:16:31] here is when you're doing your next
update?
[1:16:35] I do not I think we just completed the
meeting last year. I think we
[1:16:44] » Yeah, we finished it. It goes over
multiple years. Five years. So I think
[1:16:52] we just finished.
I think yeah, we just
[1:16:58] » I think you guys were on the same cycle
as we
[1:17:00] » because
you remember the charts that Tim had for
[1:17:04] the school. They reset it all when we
reassessed everything.
[1:17:11] » Reassess last year, right?
>> Right.
[1:17:15] That's I'm glad you brought that
contract. And last time, the past two
[1:17:22] times, we've only been able to attract a
lot of people consider bidding on
[1:17:29] there's not a [snorts]
nice
[1:17:37] » Yeah.
You guys use wood, right?
[1:17:45] » [snorts]
>> A lot of our people who pay attention to
[1:17:49] the budget, you know, whether it's
budget committee or residents, they're
[1:17:52] just they see these huge contracts go
through and they wonder why you're not
[1:17:56] bidding better, but we're doing our best
because people aren't bidding on our P.
[1:18:02] I was just curious as to why you how you
cut down with
[1:18:10] » Yeah.
[1:18:13] Yeah, but you don't use avatar. You use
a private
[1:18:17] person already, right?
>> We have avatar. We have Rob as an
[1:18:21] assessor.
>> But he doesn't work for
[1:18:24] » He doesn't work for a
justing software. We use
[1:18:36] » Yeah, he did. He finished up the last
one before Avatar came in.
[1:18:41] plus
[1:18:44] » I think it's important to keep this
going as well because we can talk about
[1:18:48] it now and talk in six months and talk
again
[1:18:51] » the police and fire and they all know
what they're doing they're going to work
[1:18:55] together you know they don't need us
telling them a thing but I mean like
[1:18:59] highway and I think there's a lot of
materials let's say there that they may
[1:19:06] be able to catch a break on and work
together and keep them in the loop Yeah,
[1:19:10] » we keeping the loop on this. I mean,
>> just to keep it going because the way
[1:19:15] we're going to get anything out of it is
to stay on it.
[1:19:18] » If Mr. Stevens is reelected
[clears throat]
[1:19:22] and we have one of these meetings in
November after the election, I bet if
[1:19:28] his schedule was clear, he would love to
come in and because he's always looking
[1:19:33] to have
>> more things.
[1:19:37] » That's a good idea. bulk buying and
stuff like that. That's right.
[1:19:41] » He's a friend of the family and he I
know I know he
[1:19:44] » he's good people.
>> Yeah.
[1:19:48] » So that's we put that mark on the
calendar.
[1:19:55] » Exactly.
[1:19:58] » Well, so we we met last time it was two
two months and two days ago.
[1:20:05] Would it be advantageous to meet next
month because budget season's here
[1:20:08] whether we all want these two or not?
That way we can you know what are your
[1:20:12] big ticket items? What are our big
ticket items?
[1:20:22] » Not running two months
[clears throat]
[1:20:27] cutting that to a month,
>> right?
[1:20:31] » [clears throat]
>> Chair, I think the one thing that we
[1:20:35] have to be concerned about will be when
do we go out to bid on broad edi?
[1:20:45] » Yeah. I mean, is that going to happen
prior to the next month meeting or are
[1:20:50] we going to be able to go a month before
we do that?
[1:20:57] » We usually No, we don't wait that long.
September.
[1:21:00] » No, we awarded Octo
[1:21:05] usually comes in in the beginning of
September.
[1:21:07] » And I'm not sure when does when's the
state finalized their state bid?
[1:21:12] Is it is it the end of August?
So, I think maybe if we do, we should
[1:21:20] make it try to make it around September
so we can come up with a a bid process
[1:21:24] and have our own agents come up with the
amounts that we need and don't need. Is
[1:21:28] that what we have an idea? And maybe
make it a mutual
[1:21:32] » package bid the vendor and say this is
what we've got. What can you do for us?
[1:21:36] » Exactly.
>> Yeah.
[1:21:38] » So like a month.
>> Okay.
[1:21:43] September.
[1:21:47] » August.
>> The primary is on the primary on the 8th
[1:21:50] » and that's the second Tuesday of the
month.
[1:21:54] You guys meet on Tuesdays, right?
So, does Wednesdays work for you guys?
[1:21:59] Kind of. Does it work for us? You guys
think?
[1:22:02] » Yeah. So, it could be on the 9th or the
16th.
[1:22:06] » That's either on the 16th would be the
month of today.
[1:22:11] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. And by then, we should have the
[1:22:14] information we need from both our public
works and stuff like that on June the
[1:22:17] 16th.
>> That's why we're
[1:22:21] so
>> 5:30 again. And our
[1:22:25] » that's
our our road agent is an official road
[1:22:30] agent now. So
>> they they no longer are the
[1:22:36] » the highway foreman. They are the
[snorts] highway department's road agent
[1:22:41] now. So as of first thing this morning
[1:22:54] » what time? 5:30 work
>> 5:30 works. Yeah.
[1:22:56] » Okay.
>> You're going to buy the cupcakes. Is
[1:23:00] that the deal?
>> No.
[1:23:01] » Yeah. You're hostess.
>> Bringing the coffee.
[1:23:10] » No. hopefully coming
[1:23:18] with cupcakes shared um fuel area that
you have it might be beneficial if we
[1:23:26] bring other towns in like Chester
because that's very very close to us.
[1:23:31] » Yeah. So the more power that we have,
the more towns that we have might be
[1:23:37] beneficial and might move the state a
little more.
[1:23:41] » It's and I and I somewhat agree with
that. Um the problem that I have with
[1:23:48] Chai Chester is their system right now
is somewhat broken.
[1:23:54] » Yes. Yes.
>> So, I am somewhat concerned
[1:24:00] if we bring them in, we start down that
path and all of a sudden for some reason
[1:24:04] they back out and all that stuff.
>> Um, I have total faith with working with
[1:24:09] this,
>> right? But I do agree with you. Um,
[1:24:13] maybe exom, maybe something like
something
[1:24:18] like B C.
>> Yep.
[1:24:21] » Um, we're already getting along. We've
got a good relation. has to be close
[1:24:25] enough to make it beneficial though
otherwise it's just
[1:24:28] » right
[1:24:32] here
somebody might say hey
[1:24:36] » exactly
>> and I think Gary hits if we go too big
[1:24:41] too quick I don't know if we can control
it as easy as we can right now
[1:24:46] » um that's my concern
>> I like I like your idea
[1:24:51] » so from more town act from the BTS the
better off you are. Absolutely. And if
[1:24:57] we put it in, it benefits them too.
>> I want to suggest it. I'll figure it out
[1:25:02] first before we try to get somebody
else.
[1:25:04] » I I I
thought
[1:25:08] » too big to
we've done it before
[1:25:13] uh with BC. Y that that is a model that
not only the rest of New Hampshire, that
[1:25:20] is a model throughout New England and
people come to our facility to look at
[1:25:25] because they have our four towns working
together successfully.
[1:25:31] » Right.
>> Is there extra area there? Put that in
[1:25:34] there to put
>> Not at the moment. [snorts]
[1:25:38] » I'd be nervous digging.
>> Yeah. We're not
[1:25:49] » even there.
>> There is some space out back. Um there
[1:25:54] is a um
future goal maybe to reroute some stuff
[1:26:00] up there, maybe put a new scale in, uh
new approaches, stuff like that. So, you
[1:26:06] know, we got to figure all that out.
But, you know, there is there is some
[1:26:09] property there, but it's not going to be
available for
[1:26:14] I would like to see I'm not sure the
property next to the propane tanks. I'm
[1:26:19] not sure it's exactly what the status of
that is, but
[1:26:22] » yeah, that's that's an ideal location.
>> That's
[1:26:26] not right. It's already next to tanks
and fuel tanks and so if somehow we
[1:26:35] could manipulate that. What about the
land in between Blueberry and those big
[1:26:40] tanks?
>> I mean, there's quite a bit there.
[1:26:42] » Yeah. I don't know the status of that.
>> I know the river gets a little close.
[1:26:46] » Yep. Right in there. But I don't know
what
[1:26:52] the one right next to it.
>> New Hampshire. State of New Hampshire.
[1:26:56] » Yeah. So, the state already has
property,
[1:26:59] » but it's steep as hell.
>> Yeah. But one state
[1:27:05] » right there on the corner.
>> Okay.
[1:27:12] [clears throat]
>> Yeah. But I mean and it is on the river
[1:27:17] side. So
[1:27:22] » I was on I was the representative on the
planning board at the time they came in
[1:27:28] to they wanted to have two I want to say
they were 10,000 gallon tanks they were
[1:27:35] going to put in the ground they going to
put a little motor around it and then
[1:27:38] they were next to it they were going to
put the the above ground gas
[1:27:43] » and somebody along the way it may have
been their own attorney's fault Because
[1:27:47] at that time Rhymes was selling
>> and at that time they said no no we're
[1:27:52] just going to put the above ground
because they I think it's less I I I'm
[1:27:58] not certain but I think it's less than a
thousand I mean feet to the river
[1:28:04] » and that stuff gets in the river on the
ground
[1:28:09] also may remember
problem
[1:28:15] » with the accused next to right is
>> right.
[1:28:20] » I mean that's it does it does not have
to be below ground tanks. I mean the
[1:28:25] state can put it above ground tank and
just as easy as being put in it whatever
[1:28:29] whatever the engineer that would be
engineers is
[1:28:32] » ours highway it's a 3000gallon above
ground tank
[1:28:35] » exactly
the
[1:28:38] » right
back
[1:28:43] » the state owns that too.
>> Yeah. So if you go by 28 and you look at
[1:28:47] the back of the V salt shed that is the
T line that's for the road going up back
[1:28:52] that's the L property
[1:28:58] » so highway materials and fuel is a
pretty good start what are you paying
[1:29:04] right now for a gallon for diesel with
300 gall
[1:29:07] » I don't know off top ahead
back
[1:29:12] » but I mean we get it from Huckleberry
and it's every time they deliver their
[1:29:15] price.
>> Yep.
[1:29:16] » So, that's where all of our heating fuel
comes from. Propane comes from as well.
[1:29:23] » Yep.
>> We did locking last year with
[1:29:26] Huckleberry. Yeah.
>> Propane.
[1:29:28] » Um, we actually
>> I think we made a great
[1:29:32] » and he we got a great deal actually. Um,
>> you know, chances are they lost money
[1:29:38] this year, so probably won't that good
of a deal next year. Um we can hope
[1:29:46] last couple of years Carol has done an
alip job with dead river
[1:29:51] half of what the I mean public
[1:29:57] » that's
heating
[1:30:00] » right but that doesn't include diesel
fuel for our because we don't have any
[1:30:05] » room for a fuel
>> we don't pay tax
[1:30:16] I believe
>> until
[1:30:21] we need to stay.
>> Are you guys all set over there? Anybody
[1:30:26] have any more questions?
drink. Orange juice.
[1:30:37] All right.