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All right, everyone is here

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and it is now just past six o'clock.

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So I will call to order this meeting of the

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Pittsford Town Board and I'll ask you to join me please.

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In the Pledge of Allegiance,

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America,

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one nation under indivisible with liberty and justice.

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Thank you. I have just one announcement tonight

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and that is to remind people that this Saturday

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starting at 12 noon here on Main Street

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is the annual food truck and music fest.

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Our second and last of the bookend events

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for the summer season.

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Lots of food, lots of great music,

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and we invite everyone to come.

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It's always a good time, at least when it doesn't rain,

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and we'll keep our fingers crossed for this weekend.

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We begin tonight with two public hearings,

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so I am going to open public hearing number one,

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which has to do with amendment to incentive zoning

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for one 50 French Road to permit Lily Brook signage.

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This is to amend an incentive zoning resolution

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that was passed back in 2001,

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that rather unusually contained provisions for

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signage at the site that now has needed to change.

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So the hearing is open.

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Is there anyone here to speak on the subject

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of the incentive zoning change for one 50 French Road

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to permit the Lily Brook signage?

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No one. Do we have anyone weighing in by email?

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I have not. Okay.

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I will give you one more opportunity if there's anyone here

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who wants to speak on this subject.

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Seeing none the hearing's closed, we will now proceed

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with a public hearing for a vote on creating

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new 2027 refuse districts.

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These came in rather late.

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They are special circumstances is

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to create one new refuse district and to extend another one.

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Again, I will now ask if there is anyone here

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to speak on the proposed creation of the refuse districts.

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Sir, please tell us your name and go up to the podium.

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I'm Daniel Drake. I'm president of the

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Alpine Ridge Homeowners Association.

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I, we have the petition in and we want to thank the board

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and particularly Supervisor Smith

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and also Maureen Nicks for expediting this matter.

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I know it came in late,

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but there were circumstances beyond our control.

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I know the community in Alpine Ridge,

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everyone's excited about getting a refuse district.

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I haven't heard anyone in the community speak against it.

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So once again, I just want to thank the board

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for putting it on your agenda.

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Thank you. If you have any

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questions, I'd be happy to address them.

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Wonderful, thank you so much. Thank

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Is there anyone else who would like

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to speak on the subject of the

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proposed new refuse districts?

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Do we have any comments by email? I have none.

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Alright, I'll ask once again. Anyone else wish to speak?

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Seeing none, I'll close this public hearing.

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We will take up the, the vote on both of those subjects,

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but later on in the agenda, we have a presentation tonight.

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But first I wanna recognize a member of our village board

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of trustees, John Beck, who's with us tonight.

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John, good to see you. Who was asked to address the board?

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Good evening. I'm John Beck.

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I live at 62 State Street,

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but I'm here tonight as a village trustee

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and I just wanted to address the board about a statue

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that the village recently rented

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is a Frederick Douglas statue.

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And we went through a presentation

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and some discussions where the village rented this statue

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for a year's time.

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And there was a lot of discussion, a lot of input as to

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where we were gonna place the statute.

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And you know, there were several places mentioned that

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coincided with where Frederick Douglas May have spoken when

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he was here many, many years ago.

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And I know one of the spots

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that they looked at was over in the new Copper Beach Park,

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but we, we had a lot of discussion about,

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you know, permanency and,

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and like I said, the different locations.

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But at our meeting in August, I think it was August 11th,

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after the discussion we had that evening, I made a motion

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that the statue would be placed in the front lawn

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of Village Hall and

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that was voted on unanimously by the board.

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And I know there's been some communications back

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and forth between the village

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and the town requesting a potential

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to place it at Copper Beach,

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but I just wanted to clear that up tonight

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that the statue's going to be located on the front lawn

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of the village hall and

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that's its permanent location right now.

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And I don't know if there are any

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questions, comments, or concerns. Yeah.

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Are you here speaking on behalf

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Of, of the entire board of trustees or just

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I'm speaking to the vote that was unanimous

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by the village board because there were communications

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after the fact that led to confusion as to

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where the statute might be located

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and as to the permanency of it or if it was temporary.

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The motion you before the board? Yes, I am. They've

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They've authorized you to come here with your

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No, they haven't, but Okay.

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Also, the communications that were sent to the

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town were not authorized by the board either, so

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that's why I'm here tonight speaking as to what the

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vote was that evening.

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Thank you. Okay, John,

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Any other questions? No, I

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Question John, are you,

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is the village hosting it permanently in front

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of the village hall or

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Is it still renting right now?

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We, we, we voted back in the spring

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to rent it for a year for $5,000

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and we're going to place it for that year.

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The vote was to place the statue

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in front of the village hall.

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Thanks John. Okay,

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John, thank you very much.

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Alright, thank you. It helps clear up a lot

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of confusion. Thank you. Appreciate

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We will now have a presentation I'm very excited about

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recently, council member LER LeBlanc

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and I had the opportunity to meet with Bill Price

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of Reimagine Rock on the subject of some very interesting

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and useful ideas that they're coming up with

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and have worked on for housing development moving forward.

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And this dovetails very nicely with our

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new zoning code that we adopted about a year and a half ago

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because we have opened up the zoning to some new

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and different types of housing

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for new construction in Pittsford,

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protecting existing neighborhoods,

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but in places where something hasn't been built yet.

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Then the idea is, well, how do we help encourage builders

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to want to come in and take advantage of some

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of these new opportunities?

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And that's where some of the ideas

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that we discussed come in.

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So with my own thanks to council member Satler LeBlanc

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for making the introduction between ourselves and Bill Price

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and Reimagine Rock, I'd like to introduce Bill Price

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to make our presentation.

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Good evening, Mr. Supervisor and members of the board

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and staff to the public.

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Welcome and thank you for the opportunity to present this

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idea that we have.

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With me tonight is Jim Yako.

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Jim is the CEO of Greater Rochester Association of Realtors.

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And let me, let me kinda start this with

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where did, where did this idea come from?

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This is reimagining our whole housing strategy

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in Rochester and the Finger Lakes region.

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Jim's organization covers a geographic area very similar

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to community design, Rochester,

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which is generally the Finger Lakes regional economic

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Development councils geographic area.

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So nine county area.

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Jim goes a little further almost over to Auburn

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and all the way down to the southern tier in the north, the

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New York state line, we do, we do as well,

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but we don't go quite as far east as you do.

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The other members of Reimagined Rock housing,

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in addition to community design, Rochester, the realtors,

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is the Mortgage Bankers Association as well

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as the Rochester Area Home Builders Association in 2023.

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That group, which works together fairly regularly on

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matters of housing, housing production, housing finance,

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anything to do with some of the, the laws

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or the regulatory processes involved in, in housing,

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they notice a substantial slowdown in housing production,

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home sales, rental properties being, becoming available.

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And they together wrote a white paper in 2023,

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I believe it was August.

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And then, and Jim has been a long time

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supporter of community design.

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Rochester came to us

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and said, can we put on a design workshop

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and really talk through these issues?

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And the, the thing that what we did was we said,

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let's involve everybody in that that's involved in housing.

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We had economic development agencies, we had towns

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not only elected officials,

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but town staff that handle application intake

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and, you know, site plan approval, subdivision

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bank financing, mortgage originators, appraisers,

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everybody in in involved, nonprofit,

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nonprofit organizations involved in housing.

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We came up, we sat around, we, we talked amongst

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like disciplines, and then we split up

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and talked amongst different disciplines at the tables,

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came up with 50 major prime idea primary ideas.

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They were filtered into 12 different categories.

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Those, those categories were things like finance,

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construction, technology, making, permitting, easier,

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state regulation, local municipal regulations.

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So then we, we ultimately ended up writing a paper

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based on everything we learned and some additional research.

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And that's what I would like to present tonight.

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Okay, so what, what is going on in the market?

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I mean, I'm sure everybody here, whether you're students

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and you've heard it at home or you know, within your family

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or anybody with elderly parents,

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that there is a housing crisis.

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We are not producing enough housing

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and we are not producing enough diversity of housing

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to meet the needs of the various age demographics

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across our community.

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Right now, we are only building one housing.

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There's only one housing unit permitted

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for every eight new jobs that are being created.

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We need to be building approximately one new housing

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or residential unit for every two jobs that are created.

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And we already know Monroe County Economic Development has

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told us we have at least 13,000 jobs

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on the books ready to come to Rochester

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and be created in the next three years.

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Our inventory of houses for sale is very low.

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We, we have less than a month supply that

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that can change month to month.

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But the typical inventory is about a four to six month

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inventory of houses available.

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We are, we're nowhere near that.

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That continues to cause problems with the bidding wars,

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the price, the increase in pricing just

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to get a, to get a house.

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So we have that problem.

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And then the cost mentioned previously

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that generally speaking,

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they're being sold at 16% over asking,

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I believe in the Brighton's and Pittsford's

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and Penfield, that number's much higher.

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So that 16% is kind

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of an aggregate number across the region.

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If we could proceed, there are some additional numbers that

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help define this crisis a little bit.

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And this, this is not numbers that are reflective

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of the city of Rochester or any one particular town.

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All of our communities are experiencing around these numbers

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where 30%, almost 31%

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of households are now cost burdened.

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That that term means that you are paying more

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in a mortgage or rent payment than 30% of your income

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used to be 26% was the benchmark

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of when you were gonna go get a mortgage.

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That's what you would apply for, is something in the range

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of 26% of your gross monthly income.

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Now renters are even higher cost burden.

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It's almost 46% just shy of 50% of renters

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are spending more than 26%.

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Am I saying that right? 27. Okay.

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27% are spending more than half

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of their gross income on rent.

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48% of increase in our,

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in our median home income,

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or I'm sorry, home price has gone from

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what it was in 2020.

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2020 we are now at, it was around what,

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230 we are now.

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I think it's closer to 270,000, 300,000,

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pushing 300,000 is the median home price.

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And $14,400 is essentially the gap between

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what lenders will approve versus

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what people actually can, can afford.

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There's a substantial gap in that initial assessment of

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how much you can, can pay.

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I had, I, I did wanna show another slide that is kind of,

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if you could advance before we get into this.

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There were, I, I did a, a slide that showed,

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this is from US Census Bureau that shows the number

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of people that migrate every day out of Pittsford

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to other places for their job.

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And the number of people res a number of people, workers

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coming into the town for their job.

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The number of people that commute into Pittsford on a daily

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basis is over 10,000.

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So it's 10,100.

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And this is in the American Sta

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American Community Survey of the US Census Bureau.

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It's a neat, neat way of seeing

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who's coming and who's going.

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So of workers in Pittsford,

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13,000 leave Pittsford every day to go to their job,

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whether it's in Henrietta, Penfield, the city, wherever.

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And you can actually hit search on that is

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where are those people working so you can figure out,

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you know, where are they commuting every day, back

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and forth, and only 1300 people live

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and work in the village, or I'm sorry, in the town.

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So those are some pretty dramatic numbers.

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And when you start talking about who is it that we want

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to invite to live here, well, we want to invite the people

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that work here to potentially live here.

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Whether that's fires teaching, you know, people

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that work in some of our retail,

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but also the folks that are leaving every day.

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You know, can some of those jobs come back into the

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village and into the town?

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So that all plays into both your economic development

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strategy and your community development strategy.

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Looking to balance that much closer to a more even number.

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I mean, even if you tripled the number of people

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who will live and work here, would be a, a substantial

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sustainability solution,

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but also a much better economic situation for,

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for the town and the village.

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So when we wrote the book on this, we wrote

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what we call the white paper.

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It's not a book. We came up with four lenses.

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It's taking those 12 categories and 50 ideas

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and boiling it down to four

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and seeing if we can't solve, find a way to solve all

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of the ideas under four different lenses.

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The first one is to create a pattern book.

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A pattern book is to design houses

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that would fit the character of the village and the town.

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And these would be residential units that are single family.

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These are duplexes, triplexes, row houses

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and multifamily up to eight units.

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We are not talking about designing things

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that are 120 units.

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Those will always go before the planning board.

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They'll go before, you know, if necessary, the town board.

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But what we're looking to do is get buy-in.

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These, these residential units would all be vetted ahead

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of time by the town, by the town's planning board,

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a design review committee, historic preservation commission.

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We would encourage towns to review what we come up with

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and consider adopting those by right.

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So that if you said, okay, this, this house,

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this model would be brand new,

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but it looks like it could go anywhere in the town,

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we would accept this if it was put on a vacant lot.

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If somebody decided to take a large lot

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and split it, we would accept that being put in.

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The part that makes that faster is

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that it would've been adopted

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and codified into the town code.

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Therefore a builder, your mom or dad

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and uncle, a business owner can go pull a building

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permit and build that tomorrow.

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Architectural compatibility with the community, vetted

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by the community and modified as needed by the community.

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We will come up with the initial thoughts

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and the initial concepts,

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but they can be modified to meet the needs of each community

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manufacturing readiness.

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We want these particular designs to ultimately be dimension

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and sized to meet the dimensional requirements

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of manufactured housing.

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Manufactured means modular

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or penalized so that we can reduce the amount

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of time over onsite built.

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We are not by any means saying that it's only modular

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or panelized onsite.

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Stick built can still happen with these.

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The other is by having these by, right?

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If we had five towns in Monroe County that agreed to these

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with some modifications, then we know

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that there's gonna be a market for the, the re the more

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prog, the faster production.

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And then the banks

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and the lenders would be able to have financial products

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to pro to align with those new, those new homes.

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And this is why we had finance people in on this,

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as you know, hey, it's not easy

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to finance a duplex right now.

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It's easy to finance a detached single family house

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or a 60 unit multi-family.

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It's not so easy to, to finance some

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of these smaller products.

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The next lens is to take a look at

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housing from a more economic standpoint

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and start talking about the economics of housing.

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We talk about economic development of a community.

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We talk about how community development, basically your,

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your housing, your amenities, your, you know,

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your community services, all work, all work together.

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Too many times that all

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of our economic development folks will, will tell you

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we aren't doing enough community development planning

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with our economic development planning.

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We're out there getting jobs, bringing new business in,

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new industry in Webster, just got fair life.

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Webster's struggling to meet the demand for the housing

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that those jobs are creating.

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So this is, you know, the kind of thing that we have to kind

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of make sure we, we coordinate.

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You guys just did an update to the zoning code

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along Monroe Avenue.

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Bill is, there is, was it other, other places?

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The other places as well and different types.

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But for example, mixed use commercial

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and residential on the Monroe Avenue commercial

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Corridor.

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Some of the applications would, would align

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with this, some would not.

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You know, so you know how much of what happens on

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that corridor could be as of right build, you know,

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maybe some of the four to eight units if you

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chose to go that high.

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You know, there's certainly a lot of pavement out there

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that we could, we could fill up with mixed use.

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Let's go to our, our next, okay.

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Incremental development ecosystem.

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Incremental development means increasing the number

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of people who build.

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I think we could all mention, you know,

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who built the house we're in

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or you know, the five to eight different builders

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that come in to the town

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and, you know, routinely apply for subdivision

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or, you know, site plan approval.

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The idea here is to let you know smaller people

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who have an interest in it, have a family need

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to build something, have a need to expand maybe

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above their business, behind their business to

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increase the number of people building housing.

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Not just the guys that come in here.

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They, as we can see, we haven't been able to meet the demand

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with that, with that market

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or the non, the non-profits out there building

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affordable housing.

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We have not met the market demand.

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So we need to increase the number of people

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who are able to do the building.

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So, you know, we are looking at ourselves at community

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design helping with a kind of a bootcamp to teach people

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how to do development.

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There's lots involved, so you do need

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to teach 'em what's involved.

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We know the mortgage bankers are ready

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to really start talking about different financial tools

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and then also really look at land trusts

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and land banks as, you know, those that have a,

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a lot of different properties

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that are maybe available to build on.

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Can. Yeah, yeah.

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I just wanna point out the, the,

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this is really the secret sauce.

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Getting the incremental development, the small person

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involved in developing housing

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streamlines the whole process.

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It, I say all the time it's easier to find a hundred people

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to build one home than one to build a hundred homes.

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And then we go through this much lengthier approval process,

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but we have to give them some certainty.

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So the pattern book gives them some certainty

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that I can pick too close, that I can pick one

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of the designs and I know I can get a permit within a few

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days a week and then I can just get moving.

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The, the time involved in going through the 12

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to 18 month process we have right now is intimidating

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and it keeps people away.

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If we can get this group of incremental developers going,

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they tend to do infill

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and belt development, small scale build on vacant lots,

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build where there's infrastructure build

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where there's sidewalks and power

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and water brings the cost of the housing down without having

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to to go any great lengths on the quality of the housing.

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So we're trying to shave time, shave cost off of the cost

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of the housing and make it easy for the individual

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to be part of solving this crisis.

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And our, our last lens that we we looked at is

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really streamlining the approval process itself.

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I'm a 33 year veteran of the town

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of Brighton planning board.

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And I, I know both what the environmental review process

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and what the town permitting process

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does as far as slowing things down.

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The idea again is, you know, there's gonna be proposals

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that come in that are gonna need

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to go through the regular process.

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But what we would like to do is we'd, we'd like to see,

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you know, these BuyRight residential units approved

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at the town level

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and then codified, you know, so that we can take,

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I I think we could say, I,

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I know nationally if you take a typical subdivision

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or a typical mixed use project,

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you're actually looking at close to 33 months

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is the typical timeframe it takes to get approved.

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Now every project's different.

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Every, every town is different.

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Every state's environmental laws are different,

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but nationally that is the average.

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We say what we'd like to do is we'd like to take, you know,

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a six to 18 month process, which could be, you know,

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getting your duplex approved, getting a three, a three

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plex row house, you know, approved.

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We'd like to take that down to five to 10 days.

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We were originally more aggressive on that,

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but let's, if we can get this down to under a month,

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you know, we would, we, we could build a lot more.

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So I'd love to answer any questions.

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You all have a handout I'd like to point you to

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reimagine rock housing.org

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where the entire white paper sits.

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There's a, a lot more detail, a lot more examples in it.

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This is kind of a, a brief and a quick presentation.

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Love to answer any questions whether you have 'em now

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or, or later.

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You know, bill, one, one

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of the things I find most appealing in the,

521
00:29:18,385 --> 00:29:20,805
the concepts you're presenting is exactly

522
00:29:20,805 --> 00:29:23,005
what you have up in the screen right now that

523
00:29:23,005 --> 00:29:27,565
with pre-approval with designs in a planning book

524
00:29:28,115 --> 00:29:29,765
that you cut down on the time,

525
00:29:29,765 --> 00:29:31,605
which cuts down on the carrying cost.

526
00:29:31,605 --> 00:29:33,085
And just to be clear, so we,

527
00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:36,045
I'm looking at the line on your slide, 25

528
00:29:36,045 --> 00:29:38,285
to 45,000 saved per project.

529
00:29:38,385 --> 00:29:40,285
So if we were talking about a really big project, well

530
00:29:40,285 --> 00:29:42,045
that's not a lot, but we're talking about these smaller,

531
00:29:42,255 --> 00:29:43,445
we're talking about one-offs,

532
00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:45,365
we're talking about maybe the eight row houses,

533
00:29:45,425 --> 00:29:46,805
or actually in Pittsford it would be four

534
00:29:46,805 --> 00:29:48,005
because that's the, the limit.

535
00:29:48,025 --> 00:29:49,125
But you get the idea. Yeah.

536
00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:52,125
So that is a significant saving that could be passed along,

537
00:29:52,695 --> 00:29:53,695
Right?

538
00:29:53,695 --> 00:29:58,605
Yeah. The, and these may be conservative numbers again,

539
00:29:58,745 --> 00:30:02,205
if we get a, get ourselves to the point where, you know,

540
00:30:02,355 --> 00:30:04,605
more towns are, are buying into this

541
00:30:04,905 --> 00:30:07,405
and we can get some

542
00:30:07,465 --> 00:30:11,685
or all of that production, you know, so if we're saving time

543
00:30:12,945 --> 00:30:17,365
on the approval process, if we're saving money on the

544
00:30:18,685 --> 00:30:20,965
interest in taxes of carrying costs,

545
00:30:21,425 --> 00:30:23,445
and if we're saving time on site,

546
00:30:24,095 --> 00:30:26,445
we're we're building in a factory, we're bringing

547
00:30:26,505 --> 00:30:31,125
to the site, you know, town inspections become limited only

548
00:30:31,185 --> 00:30:32,645
to utilities

549
00:30:32,785 --> 00:30:34,645
and any penetrations through the slab,

550
00:30:35,985 --> 00:30:38,725
all the other inspections happen at the factory.

551
00:30:39,665 --> 00:30:42,005
So it's, it's not like we have to wait three days

552
00:30:42,005 --> 00:30:43,285
for an inspector to show up.

553
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,405
There's just a lot of time savings

554
00:30:46,665 --> 00:30:50,085
and then more predictability for the finance institutions,

555
00:30:50,435 --> 00:30:51,485
more comfort for them.

556
00:30:51,905 --> 00:30:53,405
And then you get the lending that happens

557
00:30:53,475 --> 00:30:56,245
that sometimes is hard to quantify.

558
00:30:56,945 --> 00:30:58,045
But you know, one, one

559
00:30:58,045 --> 00:31:01,125
of the things we did in our workshop was we asked every

560
00:31:01,125 --> 00:31:04,125
discipline, whether you were a a, a banker,

561
00:31:04,385 --> 00:31:08,605
you were a realtor, you were this an architect, everybody,

562
00:31:09,065 --> 00:31:13,765
we said, what does your fee, what do, what do you add

563
00:31:13,845 --> 00:31:14,925
to the cost of housing?

564
00:31:16,115 --> 00:31:20,365
What does your profession add to it? It, it's amazing.

565
00:31:21,225 --> 00:31:22,765
The bricks and mortar aren't that much.

566
00:31:23,915 --> 00:31:26,205
There's a lot, there's a lot of fees that go into it.

567
00:31:27,305 --> 00:31:29,245
I'm not surprised. Well, as I I said this

568
00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:33,605
dovetails very nicely with many aspects

569
00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:34,725
of the changes we made

570
00:31:34,725 --> 00:31:37,125
to our zoning code about a year and a half ago.

571
00:31:37,705 --> 00:31:40,685
And I, I, at least for myself,

572
00:31:40,685 --> 00:31:43,765
would be very interested in seeing how the development

573
00:31:43,825 --> 00:31:46,045
of the pattern book proceeds.

574
00:31:46,265 --> 00:31:49,725
If there's as part of your process, there might be a way

575
00:31:49,725 --> 00:31:53,685
that we could try to include some patterns

576
00:31:53,685 --> 00:31:54,885
that would be appropriate for Pittsford

577
00:31:54,885 --> 00:31:56,925
that we think would a, a pass muster from our

578
00:31:57,105 --> 00:31:58,205
design review board.

579
00:31:58,225 --> 00:31:59,885
And I think this has great promise for us.

580
00:32:01,025 --> 00:32:02,805
The thank you and the,

581
00:32:02,865 --> 00:32:06,445
and the pattern book proposals were submitted yesterday.

582
00:32:07,305 --> 00:32:10,805
We have six from some pretty exciting firms.

583
00:32:12,025 --> 00:32:13,045
So that's still going.

584
00:32:14,105 --> 00:32:16,925
So there were six types

585
00:32:16,945 --> 00:32:20,165
of homes per like in the book, the pattern book.

586
00:32:20,945 --> 00:32:25,045
Are they prefab buildings on a slab?

587
00:32:26,025 --> 00:32:27,085
No, no.

588
00:32:27,635 --> 00:32:30,725
What we wanna start with is we just wanna start

589
00:32:31,595 --> 00:32:33,805
with the concept sketches.

590
00:32:34,465 --> 00:32:38,565
So we want, you know, roof lines, massing window patterns.

591
00:32:38,585 --> 00:32:41,685
We want to mimic houses that are in the village

592
00:32:41,865 --> 00:32:43,245
or around the town.

593
00:32:43,785 --> 00:32:48,485
And in fact we would probably like the town to tell us,

594
00:32:48,625 --> 00:32:51,525
you know, hey, this is quintessential Pittsford,

595
00:32:52,035 --> 00:32:55,205
this is quintessential around de QUT or whichever town.

596
00:32:56,185 --> 00:32:58,805
And then we'll make sure that those are,

597
00:32:59,695 --> 00:33:02,965
those design elements are incorporated into,

598
00:33:03,855 --> 00:33:07,285
we're gonna have single family duplex triplex

599
00:33:07,505 --> 00:33:08,525
up to an eight plex.

600
00:33:09,345 --> 00:33:10,365
But there's gonna be different.

601
00:33:10,515 --> 00:33:12,205
Yeah, I think you, there's six

602
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:15,165
designers bidding to do the book.

603
00:33:15,185 --> 00:33:16,205
Oh, I'm sorry. The

604
00:33:16,205 --> 00:33:19,125
Book itself, we're expecting 25 to maybe 30. Yeah, we'll

605
00:33:19,125 --> 00:33:20,925
Different Designs to incorporate all these things

606
00:33:20,925 --> 00:33:22,805
that bill's talking about so

607
00:33:22,805 --> 00:33:25,085
that every town can have a little bit of flexibility

608
00:33:25,225 --> 00:33:28,045
and then you can adjust on your own

609
00:33:28,055 --> 00:33:30,525
after the basic designs are replaced. So

610
00:33:30,525 --> 00:33:32,085
What I was picking up on is

611
00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:34,965
inspections would happen at a factory.

612
00:33:35,785 --> 00:33:40,125
Yep. And then there would be a fast pass permit process.

613
00:33:41,105 --> 00:33:44,805
So long as you didn't go below the, the pad.

614
00:33:45,385 --> 00:33:49,325
Oh no. Okay, so it too much, too much jargon. Sorry.

615
00:33:49,675 --> 00:33:52,525
Yeah, it's, I'm not no on expert.

616
00:33:52,705 --> 00:33:53,705
No, I think

617
00:33:54,665 --> 00:33:57,325
In the instances we can streamline production

618
00:33:57,425 --> 00:33:59,405
that's attractive because UpSpring costs down

619
00:33:59,405 --> 00:34:01,885
and helps speed up the time from permit approval

620
00:34:01,905 --> 00:34:03,925
to people living in the home, which is good for everybody.

621
00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:05,845
Not everything is gonna be modular

622
00:34:06,065 --> 00:34:07,965
or penalized. That's just a piece of

623
00:34:07,965 --> 00:34:08,965
It.

624
00:34:08,965 --> 00:34:09,165
Yeah, that's a piece you mention that

625
00:34:09,165 --> 00:34:12,165
Because that's a great way to increase employment.

626
00:34:12,585 --> 00:34:14,165
You can build in the winter when we

627
00:34:14,165 --> 00:34:15,365
can't build out of the site.

628
00:34:15,585 --> 00:34:17,605
And then you can build these on site,

629
00:34:17,605 --> 00:34:18,765
you can put 'em together very quickly

630
00:34:19,345 --> 00:34:20,845
and they're high quality homes.

631
00:34:20,845 --> 00:34:22,605
Modular homes are high quality homes is not

632
00:34:22,605 --> 00:34:23,965
what we think about from the seventies

633
00:34:23,965 --> 00:34:26,325
and s So that's just one aspect of it.

634
00:34:26,385 --> 00:34:28,045
But my apologies, this

635
00:34:28,045 --> 00:34:29,365
Still will be an important business.

636
00:34:29,515 --> 00:34:32,965
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Basements. Yeah.

637
00:34:32,965 --> 00:34:35,725
Stick regular furnaces. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

638
00:34:36,985 --> 00:34:38,965
Any other questions? Board members for our presenters?

639
00:34:40,505 --> 00:34:41,525
If none and gentlemen, thank you

640
00:34:41,585 --> 00:34:43,205
so much for bringing this in. You too.

641
00:34:43,365 --> 00:34:46,725
Question. Go ahead. Sorry, please. I mean, I'm just trying

642
00:34:46,725 --> 00:34:48,685
to put a story like how do I flow this?

643
00:34:48,785 --> 00:34:53,525
So, so you mentioned that Brighton, you, you presented this

644
00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:54,885
to Brighton and other towns.

645
00:34:54,905 --> 00:34:58,005
Has anybody else is constraint signing on

646
00:34:58,005 --> 00:35:01,085
Or Yeah, we have entire counties

647
00:35:02,465 --> 00:35:05,285
who are looking to join on.

648
00:35:07,065 --> 00:35:09,165
I'd say we're at least six at this point.

649
00:35:09,595 --> 00:35:12,005
Yeah. We've been having four small discussions.

650
00:35:12,005 --> 00:35:14,085
This is the first one town board presentation,

651
00:35:14,105 --> 00:35:16,485
but I've spoken to you about a dozen different towns.

652
00:35:16,675 --> 00:35:19,365
Ontario County is very aggressively trying

653
00:35:19,365 --> 00:35:21,125
to solve their housing crisis and,

654
00:35:21,305 --> 00:35:23,805
and many of the towns have signed on

655
00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:25,365
to support this in general.

656
00:35:25,365 --> 00:35:27,125
They want to see what the designs look like,

657
00:35:27,545 --> 00:35:30,685
but the concept of the town remains in control of

658
00:35:30,715 --> 00:35:32,965
what gets approved for this process.

659
00:35:33,745 --> 00:35:36,325
But once we get to that point, everything is streamlined

660
00:35:36,385 --> 00:35:37,845
and faster and is very appealing

661
00:35:37,845 --> 00:35:39,645
because it gets people in homes quicker,

662
00:35:39,915 --> 00:35:42,645
they start paying taxes more quickly, construction comes in

663
00:35:42,645 --> 00:35:44,765
and starts adding to the making back to the town.

664
00:35:45,035 --> 00:35:46,125
It's all positive.

665
00:35:46,425 --> 00:35:47,565
And these are designed

666
00:35:47,565 --> 00:35:50,005
to be built largely in Bill on vacant lots,

667
00:35:50,005 --> 00:35:51,165
which is another additional benefit.

668
00:35:51,265 --> 00:35:54,045
So the, the response has been very good waiting to see

669
00:35:54,045 --> 00:35:56,485
what the, the consultant we hire starts

670
00:35:56,485 --> 00:35:57,565
putting out for designs.

671
00:35:57,565 --> 00:35:59,485
And that'll be the next phase of more meetings like

672
00:35:59,485 --> 00:36:00,485
This.

673
00:36:00,485 --> 00:36:03,885
Has there been any modeling of what would be the, how,

674
00:36:04,225 --> 00:36:06,125
how would we impact the house prices

675
00:36:07,755 --> 00:36:09,685
once these houses are built?

676
00:36:09,685 --> 00:36:12,605
Meaning that right now Pittsford, if the,

677
00:36:13,565 --> 00:36:15,365
I think median house is getting sold at

678
00:36:15,435 --> 00:36:17,125
500 K minimum, right?

679
00:36:18,835 --> 00:36:22,005
Once we, you put this up, how will that impact

680
00:36:22,785 --> 00:36:24,725
the median house rates?

681
00:36:25,545 --> 00:36:27,165
Was there any modeling done or any idea?

682
00:36:27,765 --> 00:36:28,765
I so that way we can

683
00:36:29,905 --> 00:36:34,685
Are you, you're, i you're you're saying

684
00:36:35,315 --> 00:36:37,245
what will be the impact if we're able

685
00:36:37,245 --> 00:36:39,045
to bring this in at a lower cost?

686
00:36:39,075 --> 00:36:40,685
Does that affect the property value,

687
00:36:41,285 --> 00:36:42,285
Property values, properties, Values?

688
00:36:44,605 --> 00:36:46,325
I have not. We have not done that.

689
00:36:46,385 --> 00:36:50,485
We have, that was our second lens was that economic modeling

690
00:36:51,745 --> 00:36:54,445
and what, what we want to do is

691
00:36:55,905 --> 00:36:57,645
we we're looking at economic modeling.

692
00:36:57,805 --> 00:37:00,325
I had not thought of that particular angle,

693
00:37:01,105 --> 00:37:04,205
but the economic modeling that, that we want

694
00:37:04,205 --> 00:37:07,445
to do is show you show towns

695
00:37:08,155 --> 00:37:12,245
what does infill development mean in the way

696
00:37:12,245 --> 00:37:15,645
of tax revenue generation on roads

697
00:37:16,185 --> 00:37:18,245
or on parcels that are already served

698
00:37:18,305 --> 00:37:19,565
by existing infrastructure.

699
00:37:20,265 --> 00:37:23,365
So now you're getting more revenue per acre.

700
00:37:24,585 --> 00:37:26,925
So what does that, how does that help you financially?

701
00:37:27,635 --> 00:37:30,725
That was more the, the model that we were looking at

702
00:37:31,225 --> 00:37:34,205
and which are the most productive land use models.

703
00:37:35,785 --> 00:37:37,445
We know, you know, the denser,

704
00:37:37,585 --> 00:37:40,845
the more mixed use are much more revenue generating

705
00:37:41,265 --> 00:37:43,925
and higher in revenue per acre tax revenue.

706
00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:47,965
When you get to the detached single family,

707
00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:53,405
that becomes more of a, a bit of a wash of, you know,

708
00:37:53,505 --> 00:37:55,685
how much revenue you're getting versus the cost

709
00:37:55,705 --> 00:37:56,805
of community services.

710
00:37:57,345 --> 00:37:59,005
We also want to examine that.

711
00:37:59,195 --> 00:38:02,125
Yeah, I think, I think that'll help your case much

712
00:38:02,325 --> 00:38:04,205
stronger if we are able to model that as well.

713
00:38:04,235 --> 00:38:06,565
Because I think there is two stories that you are telling.

714
00:38:06,785 --> 00:38:10,645
One story is that hey, there is going, I mean,

715
00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:13,285
for at 500,000 you still have

716
00:38:13,285 --> 00:38:14,725
to pay a certain amount of tax.

717
00:38:14,985 --> 00:38:16,605
The tax burden is going to come down

718
00:38:16,745 --> 00:38:18,245
and you're essentially replacing

719
00:38:18,245 --> 00:38:21,565
that lost in home value if there is one right.

720
00:38:21,995 --> 00:38:24,445
With that, with the tax burden register.

721
00:38:24,865 --> 00:38:28,245
So, so what I would, what I would suggest is as part

722
00:38:28,245 --> 00:38:29,925
of this, these documentation,

723
00:38:29,925 --> 00:38:32,765
if a modeling can be presented, we, it'll be helpful for us

724
00:38:32,785 --> 00:38:35,005
to have that discussions with our community members

725
00:38:35,145 --> 00:38:36,845
and saying, these are the plus

726
00:38:36,845 --> 00:38:40,165
and minuses of, of signing up with this. And so something,

727
00:38:40,805 --> 00:38:43,205
And if I may, part of my rationale,

728
00:38:43,605 --> 00:38:47,525
and this comes back from my preparation, is how can we

729
00:38:47,545 --> 00:38:49,605
as a community be fiscally responsible

730
00:38:49,945 --> 00:38:52,485
and be fiscally resilient as we move forward?

731
00:38:54,065 --> 00:38:57,605
You know, Pittsford values the services that we have,

732
00:38:59,385 --> 00:39:00,565
you know, and I think about our,

733
00:39:00,585 --> 00:39:02,125
our young adults in this community

734
00:39:02,185 --> 00:39:03,525
and about the reasonableness

735
00:39:03,525 --> 00:39:05,325
that they're gonna be able to have a home in the future.

736
00:39:06,005 --> 00:39:07,685
I think about my college students and whether

737
00:39:07,685 --> 00:39:09,205
or not they're gonna be able to afford a home,

738
00:39:12,025 --> 00:39:13,765
and I wonder if they think about that, if

739
00:39:13,765 --> 00:39:15,005
that's even something in their future,

740
00:39:15,265 --> 00:39:16,925
if you'll ever be able to purchase a home.

741
00:39:17,565 --> 00:39:19,365
I know a lot of college students are thinking

742
00:39:19,365 --> 00:39:20,605
that's not even part of their future

743
00:39:21,545 --> 00:39:22,725
to be able to purchase a home.

744
00:39:23,355 --> 00:39:24,645
Yeah. Add to that the,

745
00:39:24,785 --> 00:39:26,845
But I also wanna add to that, that as far

746
00:39:26,845 --> 00:39:28,645
as our fiscal responsibility

747
00:39:29,385 --> 00:39:31,285
and our responsibility to this town

748
00:39:31,305 --> 00:39:35,805
and to be resilient as a community, this is part of

749
00:39:36,335 --> 00:39:40,205
being responsible and thinking about using our resources

750
00:39:40,205 --> 00:39:45,085
and then that includes these parking lots that are empty

751
00:39:46,025 --> 00:39:49,805
and not being used to provide housing.

752
00:39:50,465 --> 00:39:54,005
And so, which can also provide

753
00:39:54,915 --> 00:39:58,525
feeding two birds with one hand, which is

754
00:39:59,735 --> 00:40:04,405
entry homes for people as well as revenue

755
00:40:04,665 --> 00:40:06,605
for our community to continue

756
00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:08,645
to provide the tax base that we need.

757
00:40:08,665 --> 00:40:11,525
So there's a lot of fiscal modeling that shows that,

758
00:40:11,525 --> 00:40:13,325
that this can work both for both.

759
00:40:13,435 --> 00:40:17,485
Yeah. And also we, we give one more demographic

760
00:40:17,485 --> 00:40:19,485
that is our seniors who have

761
00:40:19,865 --> 00:40:21,525
No Place what to go do you call one

762
00:40:21,525 --> 00:40:22,565
and a half acre lots.

763
00:40:22,935 --> 00:40:25,005
Right. And who want to downsize

764
00:40:25,005 --> 00:40:26,205
and they have no place to go.

765
00:40:26,305 --> 00:40:29,045
So I, there is value in this conversation.

766
00:40:29,625 --> 00:40:32,165
All I'm saying is that I think there is,

767
00:40:33,225 --> 00:40:35,805
you will be asked these questions and,

768
00:40:35,905 --> 00:40:40,125
and being ready with some sort of modeling, which explains

769
00:40:40,865 --> 00:40:42,845
the loss in

770
00:40:44,025 --> 00:40:47,845
how housing value versus the benefits

771
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,845
of increased services and tax revenue.

772
00:40:50,405 --> 00:40:51,845
I think there is a really good story

773
00:40:51,845 --> 00:40:54,445
that you can put together and tell that story to,

774
00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:56,805
to win over some of these concerns as well.

775
00:40:57,745 --> 00:41:00,885
Can I just say I think this is a very different product

776
00:41:00,885 --> 00:41:02,765
than the typical home that's been built

777
00:41:03,545 --> 00:41:05,245
for the last 15 years.

778
00:41:05,425 --> 00:41:08,445
And, and that's the whole point is there isn't any

779
00:41:08,445 --> 00:41:10,525
of this type of form, the typical starter home

780
00:41:10,975 --> 00:41:12,205
isn't being built anymore.

781
00:41:12,545 --> 00:41:14,565
The only way to do that is through this process,

782
00:41:15,225 --> 00:41:16,325
it will fill a gap

783
00:41:16,715 --> 00:41:19,165
that will make the town more attractive to certain people.

784
00:41:19,325 --> 00:41:22,285
I think it actually ends up helping boost prices

785
00:41:22,585 --> 00:41:23,725
rather than dropping them.

786
00:41:23,785 --> 00:41:25,445
But absolutely good feedback. We'll

787
00:41:25,585 --> 00:41:27,445
At least maintain, at least maintain it.

788
00:41:27,555 --> 00:41:29,325
Yeah. Yes. It's not gonna reduce.

789
00:41:29,555 --> 00:41:31,965
Yeah. And and those were some of the concern,

790
00:41:31,995 --> 00:41:34,445
like Pro Smith said those were some

791
00:41:34,445 --> 00:41:36,805
of the concerns about new housing need

792
00:41:36,985 --> 00:41:40,245
or young needing housing or seniors needing housing

793
00:41:40,245 --> 00:41:42,445
because they have to downsize, they cannot

794
00:41:43,085 --> 00:41:45,485
maintain half an acre lotts or one acre lotts.

795
00:41:46,035 --> 00:41:49,685
It's a lot of burden for cleaning leaves and,

796
00:41:49,745 --> 00:41:51,125
and going long, right?

797
00:41:51,625 --> 00:41:53,325
So, so we, we,

798
00:41:53,355 --> 00:41:57,725
because of those conversations, we went with mixed zoning

799
00:41:57,825 --> 00:41:58,925
of the mono corridor.

800
00:41:59,195 --> 00:42:01,725
Yeah. We, we, we wrote our zoning laws

801
00:42:01,945 --> 00:42:03,725
or really rated our zoning laws

802
00:42:04,145 --> 00:42:06,325
to have our mono corridor be mixed zoning.

803
00:42:06,955 --> 00:42:09,365
What I'm, what I'm also interested is,

804
00:42:09,425 --> 00:42:12,005
are you having conversations with the landowners

805
00:42:12,145 --> 00:42:14,365
and property owners themselves to say

806
00:42:15,055 --> 00:42:16,405
there is these opportunities,

807
00:42:16,695 --> 00:42:17,965
would you be willing to sign up?

808
00:42:17,965 --> 00:42:19,525
Because it's been two and a half years

809
00:42:19,525 --> 00:42:23,885
that we signed off on mixed zoning on Monro Mon Corridor

810
00:42:24,145 --> 00:42:25,845
and we haven't had one developer,

811
00:42:26,125 --> 00:42:29,365
I don't know if developers been reaching out at dispenser's,

812
00:42:29,365 --> 00:42:32,285
not here, but I don't know if developers have been reaching

813
00:42:32,285 --> 00:42:35,405
out and saying, oh, we see coal mine here

814
00:42:35,585 --> 00:42:37,845
and we'll go build houses on top of Wegmans.

815
00:42:38,025 --> 00:42:39,645
We haven't had one conversation.

816
00:42:39,745 --> 00:42:43,365
So I'm curious also, like, are you having this conversation?

817
00:42:43,365 --> 00:42:47,925
Is there willingness to take out the parking lot situation

818
00:42:47,925 --> 00:42:50,565
that we are talking about and then build more housing there?

819
00:42:50,885 --> 00:42:52,925
I I've had a handful of conversations

820
00:42:52,995 --> 00:42:55,525
with very large developers who you would know

821
00:42:56,105 --> 00:42:57,605
who their first reaction is.

822
00:42:58,425 --> 00:43:01,005
I'm not sure that there's opportunity for me to do that.

823
00:43:01,035 --> 00:43:04,365
They don't know that towns are changing their zoning.

824
00:43:04,435 --> 00:43:07,845
They're interested, they understand that mixed use is good

825
00:43:07,905 --> 00:43:09,005
and they understand the need

826
00:43:09,005 --> 00:43:11,165
for senior housing in particular, close

827
00:43:11,185 --> 00:43:12,685
to services, close to transit.

828
00:43:13,515 --> 00:43:15,525
They're willing to look at it.

829
00:43:15,825 --> 00:43:16,925
We have to do a better job

830
00:43:17,065 --> 00:43:18,845
of telling them the opportunity is there

831
00:43:19,225 --> 00:43:21,205
and that the towns are willing to work with them.

832
00:43:21,345 --> 00:43:23,085
And I think there's at least three I've spoken

833
00:43:23,085 --> 00:43:25,325
with you would be very interested in that conversation.

834
00:43:25,755 --> 00:43:28,565
Yeah. From, from my perspective, I think,

835
00:43:28,765 --> 00:43:29,805
I think I was on the zoning,

836
00:43:29,965 --> 00:43:33,365
I was the zoning liaison also for zoning board.

837
00:43:33,365 --> 00:43:35,365
Now it's my clerk council member.

838
00:43:35,585 --> 00:43:39,805
Cur, I think there is a lot of willingness to

839
00:43:40,555 --> 00:43:43,565
move the permit timeline to much faster process.

840
00:43:43,885 --> 00:43:46,605
I ask anybody in our zoning board or

841
00:43:47,105 --> 00:43:50,645
or staff, everybody will tell you, yep, we are willing

842
00:43:50,665 --> 00:43:54,245
to move faster, but those opportunities need to be made.

843
00:43:54,255 --> 00:43:57,445
Right. But I want to make sure

844
00:43:57,445 --> 00:43:58,885
that you are having those conversations

845
00:43:59,155 --> 00:44:02,725
because we have enabled those

846
00:44:03,685 --> 00:44:05,045
policies two year, two and a half years

847
00:44:05,045 --> 00:44:06,045
or two years ago now,

848
00:44:06,345 --> 00:44:10,485
and we haven't heard from anybody that would be willing to

849
00:44:11,905 --> 00:44:13,085
create more housing here.

850
00:44:13,465 --> 00:44:16,965
One last thing I wanted to talk about Bill is that we,

851
00:44:17,265 --> 00:44:19,165
two years ago when we started having some

852
00:44:19,165 --> 00:44:21,685
of these conversations, there was only a thousand houses

853
00:44:21,715 --> 00:44:26,085
that we could build at a single family housing situation.

854
00:44:26,085 --> 00:44:28,245
Correct. The the la there was only,

855
00:44:29,255 --> 00:44:30,445
there was only enough land

856
00:44:30,465 --> 00:44:33,285
for a thousand more houses has then shifted from,

857
00:44:33,705 --> 00:44:34,645
Was that the number? Is that

858
00:44:34,885 --> 00:44:36,245
I think it, It, it, it sounds

859
00:44:37,155 --> 00:44:38,605
roughly speaking. Roughly

860
00:44:38,925 --> 00:44:39,925
Speaking, right?

861
00:44:39,925 --> 00:44:44,725
So we have roughly enough land for th it was two years ago.

862
00:44:44,725 --> 00:44:46,005
I don't know how much it is now.

863
00:44:46,005 --> 00:44:49,365
Maybe we've come down, we built 200 houses since those,

864
00:44:49,865 --> 00:44:51,525
The conventional single family homes, single,

865
00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:52,525
Conventional, single house, a big house, and

866
00:44:52,525 --> 00:44:53,245
a big lot convent.

867
00:44:53,355 --> 00:44:56,645
Okay. Right. So some of this infill

868
00:44:56,645 --> 00:45:00,125
that we are talking about there is if, if,

869
00:45:01,505 --> 00:45:04,405
if we are not able to sell that area, we'll run out of

870
00:45:04,405 --> 00:45:07,125
that infilled space for you to have these conversations.

871
00:45:07,985 --> 00:45:10,485
So I want to want you to think about that as well

872
00:45:10,485 --> 00:45:13,165
because it went from thousand to month, maybe 800 now

873
00:45:13,705 --> 00:45:16,005
and it sort not stopping building houses.

874
00:45:16,265 --> 00:45:18,685
We, we are hard market here, right?

875
00:45:18,825 --> 00:45:21,325
So, so something for you to think about as well as

876
00:45:21,325 --> 00:45:22,405
how fast do you want to move

877
00:45:22,405 --> 00:45:24,205
and how fast are you able to sell this idea

878
00:45:24,515 --> 00:45:29,005
because like council member Ang said

879
00:45:29,745 --> 00:45:30,765
we are in need of it,

880
00:45:31,265 --> 00:45:34,085
but we have to answer all these questions as well.

881
00:45:35,215 --> 00:45:36,215
Thank you.

882
00:45:38,055 --> 00:45:39,365
Other questions or comments folks?

883
00:45:40,945 --> 00:45:43,045
If not now, I will thank you for being with us tonight.

884
00:45:43,045 --> 00:45:44,645
Thank you for that. Thank you for the opportunity.

885
00:45:44,645 --> 00:45:49,165
Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

886
00:45:49,335 --> 00:45:52,325
Thank you. Alright. Right.

887
00:45:52,345 --> 00:45:54,485
We will move on to legal matters.

888
00:45:54,885 --> 00:45:57,845
I will ask, is there anyone signed up to speak Thank you

889
00:45:58,035 --> 00:46:00,605
with respect to any of the legal matters there

890
00:46:01,265 --> 00:46:02,685
and I will ask town clerk,

891
00:46:02,745 --> 00:46:05,525
do we have any email comments on any of the legal matters?

892
00:46:05,645 --> 00:46:07,965
I have none. All right, then we can proceed.

893
00:46:08,025 --> 00:46:11,285
So we begin with the amendment to the incentive zoning

894
00:46:11,425 --> 00:46:12,925
for 150 French Road

895
00:46:13,505 --> 00:46:16,285
to permit the Lily Brook signage board you have

896
00:46:16,285 --> 00:46:19,165
before you a resolution to make that approval.

897
00:46:19,345 --> 00:46:23,045
Do we have any discussion or comment or questions?

898
00:46:23,765 --> 00:46:26,005
I, I had a follow up question from when

899
00:46:26,025 --> 00:46:28,045
we set the hearing.

900
00:46:28,305 --> 00:46:31,565
We were talking about the light that's at the bottom

901
00:46:31,625 --> 00:46:34,605
of the sign and we just,

902
00:46:35,205 --> 00:46:37,765
I think had a consensus, correct me if I'm wrong,

903
00:46:37,765 --> 00:46:40,965
that we would like to make sure that the sign complies

904
00:46:41,045 --> 00:46:43,605
with our current lighting requirements.

905
00:46:44,765 --> 00:46:48,925
I think I can speak to that. Yes, it does.

906
00:46:49,355 --> 00:46:53,125
What we, we don't allow in residential districts

907
00:46:53,665 --> 00:46:56,765
is in infill lighting that lighting from behind

908
00:46:57,025 --> 00:46:59,885
or glowing letters in it.

909
00:47:00,305 --> 00:47:05,005
But we do allow light to be cast directly from

910
00:47:05,095 --> 00:47:06,365
below what?

911
00:47:06,365 --> 00:47:08,965
Above, onto the sign to see it.

912
00:47:09,945 --> 00:47:13,325
That's a part of the, of the light

913
00:47:14,025 --> 00:47:15,405
of the sign regulations.

914
00:47:16,845 --> 00:47:21,645
I just discussed that upstairs with April Zaki

915
00:47:21,665 --> 00:47:24,205
and Doug Re's absence today.

916
00:47:24,825 --> 00:47:27,085
As I I understood that that might be a concern.

917
00:47:30,545 --> 00:47:34,725
Any other questions? If none, I will

918
00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:36,525
move that the application

919
00:47:36,525 --> 00:47:38,405
to amend the incentive zoning resolution covering the

920
00:47:38,565 --> 00:47:39,645
property at one 50 French Road

921
00:47:40,705 --> 00:47:42,565
to allow specific entrance signage,

922
00:47:42,885 --> 00:47:44,165
identifying both the Sisters of St.

923
00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:47,605
Joseph and friendly senior living, Lily Brook be approved

924
00:47:47,745 --> 00:47:50,285
as set forth in the written resolution that you have.

925
00:47:50,805 --> 00:47:55,405
I will second it. Mayor Curie? Yes. Hava Navar. Yes.

926
00:47:56,365 --> 00:47:59,325
KO Shakar. Yes. Set. LeBlanc? Yes. Smith?

927
00:47:59,865 --> 00:48:01,045
Yes. Thank you.

928
00:48:02,985 --> 00:48:05,805
And Tiffany, thank you for being with us from Lily Brook.

929
00:48:07,425 --> 00:48:09,325
We move on to the resolution

930
00:48:09,545 --> 00:48:13,685
and order for establishing the new refuse districts,

931
00:48:14,145 --> 00:48:17,165
the Alpine Ridge in which we had a speaker tonight

932
00:48:17,185 --> 00:48:21,285
and the extension to Wilshire Hill Board members.

933
00:48:21,345 --> 00:48:22,445
Any questions or discussion?

934
00:48:25,785 --> 00:48:27,525
If none, do we have a motion to approve?

935
00:48:28,485 --> 00:48:31,365
I move to approve the rough refuse districts.

936
00:48:32,725 --> 00:48:33,445
I will second it.

937
00:48:36,965 --> 00:48:37,765
R Yes.

938
00:48:37,975 --> 00:48:41,285
Havin Nabar? Yes. KO Shakar? Yes. Is Satler LeBlanc?

939
00:48:41,345 --> 00:48:42,445
Yes. Smith?

940
00:48:42,985 --> 00:48:44,605
Yes. Thank you.

941
00:48:45,505 --> 00:48:50,325
And we come to setting a public hearing for the

942
00:48:51,165 --> 00:48:54,005
veterans property tax exemption law.

943
00:48:54,035 --> 00:48:56,405
This, as you may recall from discussion at our last meeting,

944
00:48:56,435 --> 00:49:00,085
this is for fully disabled veterans.

945
00:49:00,305 --> 00:49:01,765
And I misspoke at the last meeting.

946
00:49:02,005 --> 00:49:04,605
I was under the impression at the time that we had

947
00:49:04,605 --> 00:49:08,005
to have actually voted on it by October 1st.

948
00:49:08,205 --> 00:49:11,005
I was incorrect. We have longer than that.

949
00:49:11,145 --> 00:49:12,965
So if we set our hearing

950
00:49:13,505 --> 00:49:16,085
for our next regular meeting on October 6th,

951
00:49:16,345 --> 00:49:18,805
we will have passed it in in sufficient time.

952
00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:24,005
Do we have a handle at all

953
00:49:24,105 --> 00:49:26,525
or an inkling of how we determine

954
00:49:27,145 --> 00:49:29,445
if somebody is totally disabled?

955
00:49:30,205 --> 00:49:34,125
I wanna be clear. I completely support the concept.

956
00:49:34,525 --> 00:49:37,245
I just wanna make sure it's done something we can execute.

957
00:49:37,355 --> 00:49:39,285
Yeah. Yeah. That's a that's a good question.

958
00:49:39,305 --> 00:49:42,605
And they actually, the state law requires

959
00:49:42,605 --> 00:49:47,085
that there be a specific letter be given by, from the State

960
00:49:48,685 --> 00:49:50,405
Veterans Bureau that's out there

961
00:49:50,465 --> 00:49:52,885
and they, so that's the way it's done.

962
00:49:52,945 --> 00:49:55,565
We, you can'ts not something that's up to us.

963
00:49:55,825 --> 00:49:58,045
You have to, and it can't just come in

964
00:49:58,045 --> 00:50:00,005
and say, I get a note from your doctor.

965
00:50:00,185 --> 00:50:04,565
You have to have a specific letter that, that is

966
00:50:05,205 --> 00:50:07,285
prescribed by state law to, to get

967
00:50:07,285 --> 00:50:08,285
In.

968
00:50:08,285 --> 00:50:10,485
Okay. Thank you. And at the time of the hearing,

969
00:50:10,725 --> 00:50:13,645
I I'm gonna be asking about what we think the cost

970
00:50:13,745 --> 00:50:14,925
to the town will be.

971
00:50:17,275 --> 00:50:18,885
Okay. I I I can try

972
00:50:18,885 --> 00:50:22,445
to give you a little pre look at that.

973
00:50:24,145 --> 00:50:26,605
Our assessor said that he thinks

974
00:50:26,605 --> 00:50:29,765
that this has the ability right now to,

975
00:50:30,385 --> 00:50:34,245
to involve a 45 seriously

976
00:50:34,345 --> 00:50:37,765
and permanently handicapped veterans.

977
00:50:38,475 --> 00:50:40,645
Okay. Thank you.

978
00:50:44,135 --> 00:50:45,205
Thank you. So do we have a

979
00:50:45,325 --> 00:50:46,525
motion to set the public hearing?

980
00:50:47,435 --> 00:50:51,325
I'll move Setting a public hearing for veterans tax

981
00:50:52,805 --> 00:50:53,845
property tax exemption law.

982
00:50:56,035 --> 00:51:00,485
I'll second. Yes. Hava Navar. Yes.

983
00:51:00,885 --> 00:51:04,885
Ko Shakar. Yes. Staler LeBlanc. Yes. Smith?

984
00:51:05,625 --> 00:51:10,605
Yes. Thank you. And that brings us to financial matters.

985
00:51:10,765 --> 00:51:12,885
I will ask you once again, do we have any public comments on

986
00:51:12,885 --> 00:51:15,365
any of the agenda items under financial matters?

987
00:51:15,725 --> 00:51:18,725
I have none. Okay, then we may proceed.

988
00:51:18,905 --> 00:51:22,085
We begin with surplus inventory.

989
00:51:23,025 --> 00:51:26,045
And I find myself explaining this a lot,

990
00:51:26,105 --> 00:51:28,125
but we have new people at every meeting

991
00:51:28,185 --> 00:51:30,045
and so I'd like them to know what we're doing

992
00:51:30,705 --> 00:51:35,445
and just as the Tom War must vote, with minor exceptions for

993
00:51:35,465 --> 00:51:37,205
to buy anything on behalf of the town,

994
00:51:37,705 --> 00:51:41,205
the Tom War also must vote to approve getting rid

995
00:51:41,205 --> 00:51:42,685
of property owned by the town.

996
00:51:42,825 --> 00:51:45,405
So when equipment comes to the end of its life

997
00:51:45,425 --> 00:51:46,605
and it's time to get rid of it

998
00:51:46,665 --> 00:51:49,165
or trade it in, it requires a vote of the town board.

999
00:51:49,165 --> 00:51:52,845
And that is the surplus inventory list that we are is

1000
00:51:52,845 --> 00:51:54,245
before us now for approval.

1001
00:51:56,005 --> 00:51:57,005
Questions. Board members?

1002
00:51:58,465 --> 00:52:01,085
No. If done, I'll move approval

1003
00:52:01,145 --> 00:52:02,365
of the surplus inventory.

1004
00:52:03,155 --> 00:52:03,645
I'll second.

1005
00:52:08,575 --> 00:52:13,045
Sorry. Uri? Yes. Hava. Navar? Yes. Ko Shakar? Yes.

1006
00:52:13,185 --> 00:52:15,645
Is that lo LeBlanc? Yes. Smith.

1007
00:52:16,465 --> 00:52:21,405
Yes. And that brings us to the vouchers.

1008
00:52:21,515 --> 00:52:23,765
This is again for the benefit of our audience.

1009
00:52:23,765 --> 00:52:27,885
This is over the town board goes over all the accounts

1010
00:52:27,885 --> 00:52:31,485
payable and approves them so

1011
00:52:31,485 --> 00:52:33,285
that the checks can be written and we can pay our bills.

1012
00:52:34,325 --> 00:52:37,125
Questions board members about the vouchers.

1013
00:52:38,305 --> 00:52:40,445
Two, two questions or related questions.

1014
00:52:40,625 --> 00:52:43,725
One is on the additional accounts paper listing

1015
00:52:43,755 --> 00:52:48,605
that we received today, page one there is a mention of

1016
00:52:50,605 --> 00:52:55,565
a Volvo excavator with, with trade-in for 87,000.

1017
00:52:57,465 --> 00:52:59,685
The, that was, you're asking about the

1018
00:52:59,685 --> 00:53:00,885
Volvo excavator, correct?

1019
00:53:00,915 --> 00:53:02,725
Yeah, that's just part of our yearly fleet

1020
00:53:03,085 --> 00:53:04,165
replacement schedule.

1021
00:53:04,345 --> 00:53:06,965
So that finally just came in.

1022
00:53:07,235 --> 00:53:11,005
Okay. And and the tradein is, tradein was one

1023
00:53:11,005 --> 00:53:12,085
of the surpluses that we

1024
00:53:12,125 --> 00:53:13,445
Trade-in was the Yeah.

1025
00:53:13,785 --> 00:53:15,845
And last few meetings, right? Correct. Okay.

1026
00:53:16,385 --> 00:53:19,805
And also on the, on the

1027
00:53:21,885 --> 00:53:24,805
accounts payable page number 52,

1028
00:53:27,465 --> 00:53:28,465
Let me get there.

1029
00:53:28,465 --> 00:53:29,245
Sorry, number is

1030
00:53:31,655 --> 00:53:36,205
There, is excavator rental, I'm assuming

1031
00:53:36,505 --> 00:53:39,845
for this, waiting for this, correct? No,

1032
00:53:39,845 --> 00:53:44,685
We normally have, we normally have more

1033
00:53:44,685 --> 00:53:46,725
projects going on than we have equipment.

1034
00:53:46,905 --> 00:53:50,565
So typically each year we will do short term rentals,

1035
00:53:51,815 --> 00:53:53,405
especially around excavators.

1036
00:53:53,465 --> 00:53:55,805
So currently we are actually renting two

1037
00:53:55,815 --> 00:53:59,445
excavators and we own two. So,

1038
00:53:59,795 --> 00:54:01,765
Okay, So that's eight more thousand eight.

1039
00:54:01,765 --> 00:54:03,525
Eight and half thousand more. Yeah.

1040
00:54:03,525 --> 00:54:06,005
Yeah. Yep. But actually most cases

1041
00:54:07,155 --> 00:54:08,485
that would be on the high side.

1042
00:54:08,485 --> 00:54:10,885
Usually if we have to rent a machine, it's usually

1043
00:54:10,985 --> 00:54:12,925
for just a couple weeks over the summer months.

1044
00:54:13,065 --> 00:54:17,885
But with the, the sidewalk projects that we're undertaking,

1045
00:54:18,855 --> 00:54:21,125
we're renting them for just a little bit longer than we

1046
00:54:21,125 --> 00:54:25,565
would traditionally, but still far cheaper

1047
00:54:25,795 --> 00:54:27,605
than purchasing.

1048
00:54:28,115 --> 00:54:29,445
That was going to be my next question.

1049
00:54:29,545 --> 00:54:31,445
Do you think it's value in adding more?

1050
00:54:32,145 --> 00:54:34,045
No, it's, we're, we're probably at a,

1051
00:54:34,045 --> 00:54:36,485
at a good point right now in terms of the, the amount

1052
00:54:36,485 --> 00:54:38,525
of time that we rent versus what we own.

1053
00:54:39,135 --> 00:54:41,885
Thank you Paul. I'm all set.

1054
00:54:43,505 --> 00:54:44,845
Any other questions about the vouchers?

1055
00:54:46,225 --> 00:54:49,405
If none, do we have a motion to approve? I move.

1056
00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:55,165
I'll second Aie? Yes. Hava. Navar? Yes.

1057
00:54:55,645 --> 00:54:58,645
KO Shakar? Yes. Satler LeBlanc. Yes. Smith?

1058
00:54:59,425 --> 00:55:04,125
Yes. We do not have anything under Personnel matters.

1059
00:55:05,365 --> 00:55:07,565
I do not have anything to bring up under other business.

1060
00:55:08,035 --> 00:55:09,035
Does anyone else?

1061
00:55:11,045 --> 00:55:14,165
I have one please. Just friends of Pittsford.

1062
00:55:14,195 --> 00:55:17,525
It's a volunteer group helping with our Pittsford Library.

1063
00:55:18,445 --> 00:55:19,725
Sorry, friends of Pittsford Library.

1064
00:55:19,795 --> 00:55:22,485
Yeah, they're always looking for volunteers to help

1065
00:55:22,515 --> 00:55:24,365
with book sales here.

1066
00:55:25,945 --> 00:55:27,445
So I would wanted

1067
00:55:27,445 --> 00:55:29,405
to make sure I made this public announcement.

1068
00:55:29,965 --> 00:55:32,845
I think the friends of Pittsford Library, we're also going

1069
00:55:32,845 --> 00:55:35,605
to reach out to our communications team to see if

1070
00:55:35,995 --> 00:55:39,005
that can be posted on the, on the

1071
00:55:40,135 --> 00:55:41,925
e-magazine as well.

1072
00:55:42,665 --> 00:55:46,125
So anybody listening, if you're interested, reach, reach out

1073
00:55:46,745 --> 00:55:48,525
and help our friends

1074
00:55:48,585 --> 00:55:52,125
and friends of fit for library with their,

1075
00:55:52,915 --> 00:55:55,245
with their book sales and events. Thank

1076
00:55:55,245 --> 00:55:56,245
You.

1077
00:55:56,245 --> 00:55:57,405
Okay, we'll get that into the e-news then. Perfect.

1078
00:55:57,405 --> 00:55:59,685
Thank you. Anything else folks,

1079
00:55:59,685 --> 00:56:00,725
before we go to public comment?

1080
00:56:01,005 --> 00:56:02,045
I did have one thing. Please.

1081
00:56:02,545 --> 00:56:04,605
For those that haven't already, our,

1082
00:56:04,785 --> 00:56:06,605
our environmental board created a survey

1083
00:56:06,745 --> 00:56:08,125
for our community climate action plan

1084
00:56:08,705 --> 00:56:11,765
and it's on the front page of our of Our Town website.

1085
00:56:12,255 --> 00:56:15,125
It'll be there until after the music fest this weekend.

1086
00:56:15,305 --> 00:56:17,565
So if you haven't yet, go on and fill it out.

1087
00:56:17,565 --> 00:56:19,485
Give us your ideas

1088
00:56:19,665 --> 00:56:21,205
and thoughts on the different projects

1089
00:56:21,205 --> 00:56:22,325
that would benefit Pittsford

1090
00:56:22,585 --> 00:56:25,325
and we would greatly appreciate it. Thank

1091
00:56:25,325 --> 00:56:26,325
You.

1092
00:56:26,325 --> 00:56:26,965
Thank you for that reminder.

1093
00:56:28,345 --> 00:56:31,685
If nothing else, we will move on to public comments.

1094
00:56:31,905 --> 00:56:34,285
Do we have anyone signed up to comment? We do not.

1095
00:56:34,465 --> 00:56:35,725
Do we have any email comments?

1096
00:56:36,005 --> 00:56:38,245
I have none seeing no comments.

1097
00:56:39,065 --> 00:56:40,645
We are at the end of our agenda

1098
00:56:40,745 --> 00:56:43,245
and with thanks to everyone for coming tonight.

1099
00:56:43,465 --> 00:56:44,565
We are adjourned. Thank you.