1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,320 All right, it's 630. We'll open the meeting. We'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,550 I pledge to sign 3 00:00:09,550 --> 00:00:16,430 of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under 4 00:00:16,430 --> 00:00:20,930 God, individual, with liberty and justice are all. 5 00:00:24,220 --> 00:00:31,550 We have one executive session on the agenda, and that is personal personnel. 6 00:00:33,290 --> 00:00:33,530 You do. 7 00:00:33,690 --> 00:00:37,890 So two personels as anybody have any other need for an executive session. 8 00:00:37,890 --> 00:00:46,310 any other anything otherwise to amend the agenda? Motion to accept the agenda is a 9 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:49,250 mandate. All in favor say aye. All in favor say aye. 10 00:00:50,970 --> 00:00:57,510 We have board minutes of September 2nd and liquor board minutes of September 2nd and 11 00:00:57,510 --> 00:01:04,130 may see any need for corrections, additions, deletions, stuff. Okay, town managers report. 12 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:10,330 I received the Auto Creek engineering reports and photos from the Plain Road Project on September 3. 13 00:01:10,510 --> 00:01:12,130 I started going through them for the Paving Concerns. 14 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:18,310 Koppies were in your packets and I had highlighted where they mentioned the Paving. 15 00:01:18,850 --> 00:01:24,770 I have not gone through all the photos, but I have an entire thumb drive if anybody wants to look through everything. 16 00:01:25,430 --> 00:01:28,690 Okay. That was the entire daily report. 17 00:01:28,990 --> 00:01:30,210 This is what was in your packet. 18 00:01:30,210 --> 00:01:31,390 All right, 19 00:01:33,630 --> 00:01:38,030 I looked through the entire zoning file for direct routes property because this came up in the last couple of meetings. 20 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:43,030 The permits were all put in as residential. There's no commercial permits for that lot. 21 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:47,950 And there have been permits for both eight footfensing and a garage previously, both of which have expired. 22 00:01:48,350 --> 00:01:52,130 And there's no mention of commercial use in the zoning files for this parcel. 23 00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:58,490 I included HP Fairfield's bill that was in question last meeting. 24 00:01:59,070 --> 00:02:03,030 It is for two knives, nuts, bolts and shipping from Maine for the arm mower. 25 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:07,330 That's the big mower that does like tree whack and down. 26 00:02:08,330 --> 00:02:11,130 Our audit has been set for the week of November 9th. 27 00:02:11,730 --> 00:02:17,610 I've started scheduling budget meetings with department heads to prepare for a fiscal year 28 budget discussions already. 28 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:23,470 hoping to give this luck board something October 7th. I don't know as it'll be a full draft, 29 00:02:23,690 --> 00:02:28,150 but it'll always be starting to walk through the building process. 30 00:02:29,150 --> 00:02:34,790 Chad and I have met to discuss concerns with Elm Street. He met with Jim Collin from District 3 V 31 00:02:34,790 --> 00:02:41,350 Trans for the Bullard Project. We have submitted the 1111 permit. Jim has asked for a better photo 32 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:47,050 with better marking on distancing for the Bullards and everything and Chad and I have found some 33 00:02:47,050 --> 00:02:52,330 pricing already for the boards. We're thinking that we're going to need six of them. 34 00:02:52,470 --> 00:03:02,550 They're going to be about $600 a piece I believe and these are once it will be able to unscrew in the winter time and screw back in and they have plates so that they don't go nasty. 35 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:07,090 I emailed Rotland Town in West Rotland regarding their local options tax. 36 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:11,090 I had a very long conversation with Bill Sweet from Rotland Town. 37 00:03:11,090 --> 00:03:18,010 Western Ellen does not have well-cloption stacks, but Marianne is actually starting conversations with her select board about it too 38 00:03:18,570 --> 00:03:21,950 because they're starting to do a village redevelopment project 39 00:03:23,130 --> 00:03:27,630 and she's looking at that as well, a funding source for some of what they're looking to do there too 40 00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:33,870 but I left my notes from Bill Sweet in the meeting, you know, in my manager's report 41 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:41,390 dollar general, I heard back from Zareemberg group that used to own the building, they don't 42 00:03:41,390 --> 00:03:46,670 own the building anymore. However, they're still in contact with DG and dollar general. 43 00:03:46,670 --> 00:03:50,550 I don't know what the difference is, but he differentiates between the two. He said he's 44 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:55,250 talked to both of them. They are sending a contractor to fix the lights and start working 45 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:59,650 on all of the deficiencies. So crossing my fingers in terms of that within the next couple 46 00:03:59,650 --> 00:04:05,630 weeks. We will see that being done. Zaremba Group said he can still be involved somewhat even 47 00:04:05,630 --> 00:04:10,390 though they don't own the building anymore. He's willing to kind of help if we really need 48 00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:15,790 it from him to light fires. Okay. So, there's a positive conversation. Good. 49 00:04:19,610 --> 00:04:20,170 Any questions, 50 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:20,750 Rayan? 51 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Okay. Any slide-forward memory marks? 52 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:32,040 No, I had somebody ask me, yes, yesterday. Under 53 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:38,400 billboard done by the post office. It's getting hard for older people to read it. It's kind of, 54 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,740 I don't know if it's the Plexiglass, it's so bad. It's a little discolored. The Plexiglass is 55 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:48,720 demolored and can be replaced. He has to forgive himself. The Plexiglass is getting discolored 56 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,480 and the actual bulletin board that was in there. The cork is starting to really fall apart. 57 00:04:55,540 --> 00:05:00,700 I will add it to the list because the one at Keith's the bottom is falling out of it. The 58 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:01,540 It's a glass piece. 59 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:02,940 I'm so excited. 60 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:04,100 I'm so excited. 61 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:07,000 So I had asked last winter, but we didn't have a good day 62 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,900 that the highway guys could fix it. 63 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,680 It was a snow-pllowing and everything last year, 64 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:12,620 but I'll put it on the agenda for both of them 65 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:14,360 to be repair. 66 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:15,140 Yeah. 67 00:05:15,140 --> 00:05:17,320 The other thing I noticed over the wreck, 68 00:05:17,820 --> 00:05:21,360 our sign over the wreck, in the wreck by the parking 69 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,760 just before the gate, that means it will move. 70 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:25,320 That's going to fall in. 71 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,140 I didn't realize how bad that was. 72 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,460 Okay, which one? 73 00:05:28,460 --> 00:05:36,540 It's the one that's got like a little room for it just before you go into the swimming area. Oh, the one at that place. It's a sad sad shape 74 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:39,000 That really needs to be replaced 75 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,120 So it's something that 76 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:45,460 Maybe it could look at that someday when it was raining and nothing to do 77 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:46,120 Yeah 78 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,420 But it is bad 79 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:52,440 You kept in school 80 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:57,280 Somebody I mean, it's it's really rough. I didn't really thought bad it was don't look down 81 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Rodney, ready to fall in. 82 00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:04,280 Sydney and I are going to be taking a couple of walks at the wreck. 83 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,680 There's four different grants out. We're coming out for a wreck. 84 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:12,760 So we're trying to get for trail improvements. 85 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,880 One of them at least to help maybe cover part of the cost of the pickleball court. 86 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,780 We do that has to be done. 87 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,960 Trail maintenance trail upgrades. 88 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:35,900 And there was something else that she and I had bravely talked about just to keep what we have going and we are going to have to look at, we have the ADA port a potty, but if we want to keep our bath house, 89 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:45,140 get our bath house, ADA compliant with a door, we might have to do something there too. So we're all here at Grand Options for all of that to get fixed. 90 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:54,280 All right yeah well I mean I guess so hopefully that'll help I know somebody 91 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:59,140 had reached out to me about um street um it's just going to some concerns too 92 00:06:59,140 --> 00:07:06,260 about how it changes 25 to 35 but coming the other you know so coming from 93 00:07:06,260 --> 00:07:06,740 Doctor. 94 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Very fine. 95 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,780 People not dropping down the third 25 I guess. 96 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Um... 97 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Okay. 98 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:15,580 Chief just took note of that. 99 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:16,240 I could tell. 100 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:17,060 No. 101 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:19,940 Okay. 102 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:20,160 All right. 103 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Any public comments? 104 00:07:25,020 --> 00:07:25,300 Yes. 105 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,260 Just something on what Mr. Hooker. 106 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Made mention of perhaps there is an eagle scout who could fix that. 107 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:40,120 Yeah, because I believe that's you did it originally. 108 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Especially if there's a grant that will help subsidize the cost. 109 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,740 Yeah, it could potentially be an eagle scout project. 110 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:58,800 And I think if there's a local eagle scout, that's my thought. 111 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,380 Yeah, okay. Thanks. It could also be a Girl Scout goal project. 112 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:05,840 Something for community service. 113 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,360 From somebody. 114 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,180 And if it's not scouting, maybe there's another group that I don't know about that. 115 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:18,800 Well, OV does their volunteer day every year. Also, community day. 116 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,620 Thank you. 117 00:08:20,820 --> 00:08:21,800 This is the shop. 118 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,880 The shop teacher there has done some really pretty terrific kit things. 119 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:41,180 Yeah, maybe there's a group he knows about with funding already in place for supplies and he just supplies the kids in the supervision with the power tools. 120 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:41,620 Sure. 121 00:08:41,860 --> 00:08:43,300 Yeah, piggybacking on that. 122 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:45,820 There's enough people with this reaches on pegs. 123 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:48,100 Maybe you'll see it there. 124 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:48,240 Yep. 125 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,260 There's no of a company to donate or they will donate funding for it. 126 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:53,720 Yeah. 127 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,820 You're an idea of being able to scout, right? 128 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,360 What are you saying? 129 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:02,200 Okay. 130 00:09:02,620 --> 00:09:03,680 Any other public comment? 131 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:05,540 All right. 132 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:06,920 All right. 133 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,620 All business. 134 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:13,280 Walling unit identification for grand list. 135 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:14,400 Correct 170. 136 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,560 That's the letter that is in your packet that we talked about last time being sent to 137 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:20,160 Jill Remrick. 138 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:21,280 Bill Shoulders. 139 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:21,680 Yes. 140 00:09:25,410 --> 00:09:28,890 I typed up the letter and then I gave it to Lisa. 141 00:09:29,130 --> 00:09:30,570 She said it works good to her. 142 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:33,670 So if something back to you all first, like me, if you would agree to it. 143 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:35,570 Fine, if they have leases, fine, is that... 144 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:40,990 I chose the one that would know what is pertinent information I have in that letter. 145 00:09:40,990 --> 00:09:43,010 I kept it short, sweet into the point. 146 00:09:43,490 --> 00:09:43,950 Yeah, it's not fair. 147 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:45,870 It's not equitable, it's not okay. 148 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:53,610 We already had a motion on it. 149 00:09:53,810 --> 00:09:54,710 No, not to sign it. 150 00:09:54,750 --> 00:09:55,990 You had a motion to draft it. 151 00:09:58,050 --> 00:09:58,990 I'll move the sign up. 152 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:00,810 Sign it and send it. 153 00:10:00,830 --> 00:10:01,050 Okay. 154 00:10:01,330 --> 00:10:02,110 I'll favor say aye. 155 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:02,590 Aye. 156 00:10:05,180 --> 00:10:10,100 And in junk ordinance violation letters for select board approval. 157 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,480 So the first one under old business is a proposed solid waste order. 158 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:21,260 This follows up the notice of violation that was sent after the August 16th meeting. 159 00:10:22,780 --> 00:10:24,580 Scott and I have both met with him. 160 00:10:24,580 --> 00:10:26,160 He's put in a permit for a garage. 161 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Doesn't plan on doing it until next spring, but this seems to be an ongoing. 162 00:10:31,060 --> 00:10:33,580 I'll put in a permit, but the problem is not going away. 163 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:39,340 right right so this would be the next step Gary has reviewed both letters and he said 164 00:10:39,340 --> 00:10:46,180 he's fine with this letter if you want to sign it and send it. I mean it's better 165 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,080 he's at least trying. He's trying it is better. But there's got to be some of it but there's still 166 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:59,240 a blob in the center there's a big blob. Yeah but I think keeping on it is um important because 167 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,920 I think it's important to keep on it. 168 00:11:06,270 --> 00:11:08,550 So that would be you all signing the letter again. 169 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:17,050 We need a motion for that as well. 170 00:11:17,770 --> 00:11:19,130 A little bit closer to the letter. 171 00:11:20,530 --> 00:11:20,670 Okay. 172 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:22,030 I'm all in favor say aye. 173 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:23,010 All right. 174 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Well, let's do a skip. 175 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,900 I can't even think about skipping it ahead. 176 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,920 So we, okay. 177 00:11:36,660 --> 00:11:39,380 So is this, is this both draft? 178 00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:42,200 She's a draft local hazard mitigation plan. 179 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,140 I'll review in discussion. 180 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:46,940 The draft time plan is not Maggie, that'll be okay. 181 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:51,520 All right, so draft local hazard mitigation plan for review and discussion. 182 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Hi Maggie, how are you? 183 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:54,100 Hi. 184 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:54,820 I'm good. 185 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,380 I was just looking forward to seeing you. 186 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:56,940 Can you hear me? 187 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:57,420 Oh, okay. 188 00:11:57,580 --> 00:11:57,940 We can. 189 00:11:58,020 --> 00:11:59,040 Thank you. Yeah. 190 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:00,020 All right. 191 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,040 My apologies. 192 00:12:01,420 --> 00:12:02,520 I couldn't be the person. 193 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,100 I had a bit of a last minute comment. 194 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:06,060 I can't. 195 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:07,520 But. 196 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,960 Hopefully this will go real smooth. 197 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,100 So for the sake of the public sector, I'm Maggie O'Brien, 198 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,340 I am the Emergency Management Plan 199 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:17,020 with the Rosalbury School Planning Commission, 200 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,260 and I am here tonight to present the midpoint draft 201 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:26,220 of the Pittsburgh 2027 local hazard mitigation plan. 202 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,420 Specifically, the hazards identification 203 00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:31,320 and risk assessment section of the plan. 204 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:36,560 So the working graph of this plan has been reviewed and approved 205 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:42,860 by your local planning team for presentation tonight, and some of those folks are in the room. 206 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,100 So we have Tom Editor Anne Reed, who's been leading the charge. 207 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:50,260 We have the emergency management director, Matt Tromley. 208 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:58,560 We have Fire Chief Phil Hempel, the Chief Joseph Minino, Chad Eugier, the Rogue Forman, and 209 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,420 the Water and Whisperer Superintendent, Sean and B. 210 00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:04,700 So these folks have been really great work with so far. 211 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:11,780 and I deserve some recognition for the for a lot of the work they had to put in a short period of time. 212 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:19,620 So and I also just a quickly mentioned this work is made possible things to funding from the municipal planning grant, 213 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,120 which was provided by the Vermont Agency of Commerce and Community Development. 214 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,720 Just a little disclaimer I have to give as one of the agreements for that funding. 215 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:37,360 And, again, thanks to Anne, for pursuing this opportunity with the loss of the FEMA funds that used to fund these plan updates. 216 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:47,660 So you guys were able to get it in pretty quickly under the closing door there, but, um, so the midpoint draft should be included as part of your package. 217 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,500 I also printed out copies of the FEMA planning review tool, um, that Anne should have handed you. 218 00:13:53,500 --> 00:14:05,940 So, this is essentially the rubric or crosswalk, but that blocks you through what the requirements are for this plan from Gamma and shows you where they exist in a current draft. 219 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:20,520 So, since we're only at the halfway mark, the review tool is only halfway complete and the rest of it will be presented in its final form when I come back in front of the board in the winter time. 220 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:30,540 So, just to give you a quick summary of where we are, so we picked off this plan update in the month of July, so not that long ago, really. 221 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:36,600 We updated the information in the community profile section from the 2021 plan. 222 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:50,500 And we had a risk assessment workshop to essentially look at the range of natural hazard impacts that sort of factor in determining our levels of vulnerability based on 223 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:57,040 factors of, you know, how much risk doesn't pose to people, infrastructure, environment. 224 00:14:57,300 --> 00:14:59,980 Economy as well as how likely is it for these hazards. 225 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:24,660 And so, tonight is on a significant milestone, as it marks the start of the call of review and comment period. So, this is the first opportunity that the community has to really look at what the team has done so far and weigh in and make sure that we are on the right track in terms of telling Pittsburgh story in relation to these sort of events that we are seeing happen more and more frequently. 226 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:31,720 So, before I do a quick run-through of the draft itself, any questions so far. 227 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:32,620 No. 228 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:33,620 All right. 229 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:34,640 Here I'm done. 230 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,820 I see we have a smaller crowd tonight, so hopefully we can get through this pretty quickly. 231 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:45,580 So, section 1 and 2 introduction of purpose, pretty straightforward on page 1. 232 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,940 If you'd like to follow along, if not too much to say there, the only thing I want to point out is that 233 00:15:51,940 --> 00:15:58,680 Within the purpose paragraph, there is one line that says if one's adopted, this plan is not legally defined. 234 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:06,820 I want to stress that because a Pima global hazard mitigation plan is not a mandate. 235 00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:10,620 It's not something every count has to have, but it does provide a lot of benefits. 236 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:17,280 In terms of accessing funding, in terms of just integrating forward thinking into your operations. 237 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:23,580 So nothing that is in this plan is a commitment to get done with in the next five years. 238 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:30,440 It's just meant to be a row-bap of things the town could do or can consider to increase your resilience. 239 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720 So that moving on the TV profile. 240 00:16:37,340 --> 00:16:43,320 So I'd like to think of this as the part of the plan that describes what makes Pittsburgh, 241 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:49,060 Well, Pittsburgh in terms of who is living there, 242 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,660 and then, graphically, what if the population 243 00:16:50,660 --> 00:16:51,640 trends been like? 244 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,460 We talk about land use and development patterns 245 00:16:54,460 --> 00:16:59,360 and how that shapes how the community footprint is today. 246 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,440 And looking at everything from precipitation 247 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,800 and water features, average temperature, 248 00:17:04,580 --> 00:17:07,300 and your utilities, transportation, and infrastructure, 249 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,300 and so on. 250 00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:11,340 Really laying the groundwork for what assets 251 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:17,920 If community has, so that we can get into that deeper dive, into what the internal impacts 252 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:26,360 are from things like floods or wildfire, extreme heat, extreme winter storms, and other 253 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:27,320 natural events. 254 00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:34,880 So I'm not going to go to a depth in that, but I would be happy for an expert set of ice 255 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,060 or a thermature of anything looking good, although I did a really good job of doing that. 256 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:44,940 So I'm sure everything's pretty airtight there, but second four plan of elements starts on 257 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:45,620 KH7. 258 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:52,900 So it provides a brief overview of who helped develop with the plan update and what the process 259 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:58,820 looked like laying out the milestones at any time line, so table two, the plan development 260 00:17:58,820 --> 00:18:03,480 summary, gives a rough, guess a bit of our time line. 261 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:09,040 And as you can see, it's a little, it's rather aggressive, really on it. 262 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:16,440 average, these take about 7 to 8 months if we have a planning team eating about once a month, 263 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:22,400 make sense of workshops and surveys in there to get public input, but it requires a dedicated 264 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:28,200 effort to keep this on track. And since your folks' plan expired back in May, obviously we 265 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:34,860 want to get this in as soon as possible to get those e-wrap benefits back. And then table 3, existing 266 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:41,660 studies, reports, and technical information, not too much to say there, it's just essentially 267 00:18:41,660 --> 00:18:48,520 our sources cited, so here are all the existing sources that we use to ensure that the 268 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:55,220 information in this planet is relevant and up to date and scientifically court. But the real 269 00:18:55,220 --> 00:19:01,020 me of the draft that we're hoping to get feedback on is the Hazard Identification and Risk 270 00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:07,600 assessment. So as I alluded to earlier hazards, the different range of natural hazards that we looked at were 271 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:13,600 ranked based on the probability of occurrence and the potential impact on community assets. People 272 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:21,660 infrastructure environment, local economy. So table 4 on page 12 shows you the results of that risk assessment and 273 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:28,780 how that scoring was broken down and designed by the planning team. And Pittsburgh had quite the 274 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:34,720 of highest risk hazards. So we have extreme cold snow and ice. We have flooding. So that's both 275 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,920 in Engage and flooding, the rising of water on flat lands typically and then fluvial erosion, 276 00:19:42,180 --> 00:19:48,400 flat flooding, which can happen anywhere and can be very sudden, very fast. We have strong winds. 277 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:55,100 We have extreme heat. We have droughts and we have invasive species and infectious disease. 278 00:19:55,100 --> 00:20:01,240 So, the reason why those are in this plant, they were not in the 2021 plant is because 279 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:07,400 the 20, 20, 30 state hazard mitigation plant actually included these as hazards worth 280 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:07,840 assessing. 281 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:14,680 And so, one of the requirements for local hazard mitigation plants is to assess those hazards 282 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,180 as well. 283 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:21,580 And as it turns out, the scores for both invasive species and infectious disease were tied 284 00:20:21,580 --> 00:20:27,480 to work in a profile. In fact, that's where it is my first community to have an infectious disease 285 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,760 for a file. So that was fun, catering around with that, and figuring out what that was 286 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,680 looking like, and how to best describe it in the context of your community. So definitely let me know 287 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:42,700 if I was accurate on that one. But the highest risk has it for a file. Maggie, I'm sorry. 288 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,420 And sorry to interrupt, but we have a question. Yeah, how do you even come up with these 289 00:20:50,440 --> 00:21:00,700 probabilities being forced for extreme cold snow, flooding, where does this, underneath the tables? 290 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:10,420 No, I understand what that means, but how do you, I haven't seen extreme cold or snow since the 60s? 291 00:21:11,740 --> 00:21:18,700 So, I'm sorry, some of this doesn't make any sense to me, that you're talking, we do get 292 00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:26,880 floods, I'll agree with that, wins, I guess, invasive species, yes, we've got that, infectious 293 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,840 disease, where does that come from? 294 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:34,180 So, when we were looking at it, we were looking at that, we have an older population, we 295 00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:39,180 weren't talking COVID or something like that, this is, you know, if in a disease came into 296 00:21:39,180 --> 00:21:46,920 would it have a massive effect in it could on our elderly population, which is a large portion of our community. 297 00:21:47,980 --> 00:22:00,120 So this is all if, if not, but they're saying a 75% probability in a year of infectious disease coming into our town. 298 00:22:00,220 --> 00:22:02,440 At least one chance in the next 10 years. 299 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:09,830 This was at the end of May December, thinking about this kind of COVID pandemic level. 300 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:11,830 I mean, that really only happens once a century. 301 00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:14,030 We were thinking more of your localized outbreak. 302 00:22:14,330 --> 00:22:22,330 So that can even just be, I think, SARS, I'm thinking, you know, we're unfortunately 303 00:22:22,330 --> 00:22:23,050 murdering these. 304 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:29,150 We're just starting to come back into this country, and some other diseases from, 305 00:22:29,290 --> 00:22:29,970 let's take more diseases. 306 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:39,740 I mean, those are becoming more common with climate change patterns, allowing those populations to provide, we have a lot of people going outside, line disease, vector for diseases. 307 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:59,560 And another thing I'd like to point out, we did have some direct matter experts from the Vermont Department of Health and the Agency of Natural Resources, who helped provide so much needed contact and background information about what kind of hazards could occur in community and how often. 308 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,860 and then what their potential impact could be. 309 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:06,100 So for those subjects that are more broad and maybe not as easy to grasp, 310 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,120 been such a quick analytical process, they're information proof 311 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,920 really valuable and helping to inform the team's decisions. 312 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,820 So I hope that helps answer some of those questions. 313 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:25,880 Make sure you're in cold snow ice also is something where it can be, 314 00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:28,320 it's all long together because they're all very similar, right? 315 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,940 So like, extreme windshield, like that is something we've seen this afternoon with your 316 00:23:31,940 --> 00:23:32,420 seasons. 317 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,720 Having a major snowstorm, I mean granted, it's looked more like mixed precipitation 318 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,120 in most recent years, but that can still create hazardous conditions. 319 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:46,920 So it's all just a matter of perspective at the end of the day. 320 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,340 I would yield to your planning team to describe their rationality at the end of the day, 321 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:55,920 but hopefully that helps answer some of your digital thoughts there. 322 00:23:58,220 --> 00:24:03,680 So if there's other questions, I'll move on. 323 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:13,820 So the highest risk hazard profile start on page 13, and these are a deeper dive into the community-specific risks and vulnerabilities based on those four categories. 324 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,260 I mentioned really quickly, high-level, the profiles are all structured in the same way. 325 00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:28,120 So there's a general description of what the hazard is and what its history entails for both a brother county and at the town level. 326 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:35,420 that data is available. We have the results of our public engagement, I believe, we had 327 00:24:35,420 --> 00:24:40,340 both the 70 survey responses, which, first of all, is good job of this the second time 328 00:24:40,340 --> 00:24:46,940 we've had and nothing can't even take these over. So what did people think about this hazard 329 00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:58,100 and how often are likely to occur? What were their major concerns in terms of, you know, 330 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:04,100 challenges, you have people who rely on medical devices that suddenly can't rely on those 331 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:10,440 anymore. So where's the risk there? We look at the location and the extent of where these 332 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:17,120 hazards are likely to occur, we also consider not only impacts for the present time, but 333 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:20,960 looking forward to the future, especially with how fast the weather is changing. 334 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:28,040 And so we're 335 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:34,520 And then we have a hazard history, having all-feet profile with past occurrences and damages 336 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,820 where applicable, especially for those events that were better laid to clear disasters. 337 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,220 And then at the very end of section five, page 31 of a vulnerability summary. 338 00:25:44,580 --> 00:25:49,040 So we iterate who, what, and where is at risk from these different hazards? 339 00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:51,780 As well as the future outlook. 340 00:25:51,780 --> 00:26:01,020 So, what can we expect to continue to see if we don't give something to address our candy marvelous? 341 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:12,020 So, that's the book of the plan that will be back on, but we do also have a public outreach engagement summary that we call county C, 342 00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:27,200 We're doing the plan starting at page A at Dash 8, so the team that came up with a community engagement goal and strategy, and we also had a list of what we call whole community partners that were offered the chance to participate in the planning process. 343 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:40,020 So you might recall receiving a few email blasts from me, and announcing this in part milestone, and opportunities of seeking feedback, and we will continue to do that as we go through the process. 344 00:26:40,020 --> 00:26:57,420 If you're curious about what some of this outreach looks like, beyond those emails last being through those as well, some screenshots and the initial survey results for the hazards of what folks thought the most impactful areas were for instance for flooding. 345 00:26:57,420 --> 00:27:00,440 I got a lot of D-Boast, D-Boast, D-Boast Hill, 346 00:27:00,580 --> 00:27:02,240 the room in the film street answers 347 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,900 that whatever I'm like, oh, we should probably call it cozy 348 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:06,400 because these are showing up a lot. 349 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:13,180 So, but yeah, so obviously it's a little hard to get feedback 350 00:27:13,180 --> 00:27:15,180 for this tonight, it's very dense, 351 00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:17,560 which is why we have a two-week public comment area. 352 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:22,340 So, starting tonight and going through October 7th, 353 00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:23,960 we are collecting feedback. 354 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,160 It can be done in two ways. 355 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,340 it can either be emailed to myself or am, 356 00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:34,320 so that's Maggie at Rutland or PSC.org. 357 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,340 And for, alternatively, 358 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:40,940 I would encourage the board to have a sloth 359 00:27:40,940 --> 00:27:42,720 on the October 7th agenda 360 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,420 for people to submit their comments 361 00:27:44,420 --> 00:27:45,560 and person at the English. 362 00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:47,580 We'd like to have those multiple avenues 363 00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:49,780 because we know not everyone is tax savvy. 364 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,700 So, it would also be a good opportunity 365 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,140 for local officials to dispense their initial reaction. 366 00:27:56,140 --> 00:28:03,140 and comments and so just any weeks that could be made or anything like that. 367 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,560 I will mention I unfortunately cannot be present at this October 7th meeting. 368 00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:12,480 In fact, I'm struggling multiple local hazard regulations fans right now 369 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,760 and screws varies. 370 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Final draft. 371 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,460 I happen to be doing that now. 372 00:28:16,460 --> 00:28:20,960 You and troops very need at the same time, same day, so. 373 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,040 So I had to actually just think around a little bit to make that work. 374 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:35,180 So, while I won't be present, my trust and to relay the feedback back to me whether that's from members of the public or from you folks on the board. 375 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,000 So, the draft itself is available for viewing as the town office. 376 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:49,660 If you'd like to view physical copies, we will also have a landing page where you can access a PDF that you can read and download and print out for yourself. 377 00:28:49,660 --> 00:29:02,720 of you'd like. So the link for that is tiny url.com slash pitsford-lhmp27. The other thing I wanted to 378 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,800 call that a Maggie Bowdozer. The other thing I wanted to call that a Maggie Bowdozer. 379 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,760 Yes. Yes. I did provide some of that material for you. We will have it at the town office. We will also 380 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:22,060 have in large versions of the risk map in several locations in town. So it's 8 by 5 by 11. 381 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:27,840 So 8.5 by 11. So obviously it's a little harder to see some of the circles where we 382 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,860 delete the rows that like most frequently have plenty problems. So thought it would be 383 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:37,620 a benefit to have those larger maps so both can actually come in and see, you know, like, 384 00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:43,440 This area that I know is a problem is that I can't point it out on this map and if it's not then 385 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:48,060 You know what would that look like if you were to add that so we welcome that be back too 386 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:49,960 So 387 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,660 Almost done I promise next steps really quick. So 388 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:56,660 At your next meeting on October 7th 389 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,980 The board will hear in person comments provide play 390 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,660 And then be back in potential revisions and indicate whether the planning team is good to move forward with the development of the mitigation strategy. 391 00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:15,920 I don't need a formal motion per say. I just need to reflect it in a minutes that you guys are good with the planes presented or if there is minor tweaks we need to make. 392 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,060 That will address those in move forward. 393 00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:24,740 The planning team will then reconvene to address call the comments received before our 394 00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:30,500 articulating a meeting goal, so what we hope to do to address these vulnerabilities that 395 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:36,520 we outlined, examining her and community capabilities to achieve that goal, and evaluating 396 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,620 a broad range of mitigation actions that are acceptable and practical in the town of 397 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:40,860 implement. 398 00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:47,320 We will have a second round of surveys once we've determined which actions that we will 399 00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:54,580 That will be part of our plan, our strategy plan, and that right now is targeted for about 400 00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:55,800 mid-November to mid-December. 401 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520 We will have that round open. 402 00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:04,560 We will then develop the action plans, carry out the chosen medics and action actions, examine 403 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,060 how we will integrate these into existing plans and procedures, that the town is already 404 00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:14,980 undertaking, and analyze any shifts in the mediation strategy that any changes that may 405 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:17,600 occurred since the last time this plan was done. 406 00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:22,980 So then we'll go through the same process, rinse and repeat another round of review and approval 407 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:24,040 by the planning team. 408 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:29,620 I'll come back in part of the board in January with a complete draft plan and a complete review 409 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:30,440 tool. 410 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,760 And there will be another public comment period and this will be the kind of the last opportunity 411 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,620 for the public to weigh in on the plan. 412 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:44,020 And then at this point, we are anticipating submission of complete draft to the state or the 413 00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:46,980 initial review process by early to make that be working. 414 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,820 So I know I just threw a lot at you, but are there any other questions or things I can answer? 415 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,640 We will have a draft fan on the landing page for a long off. 416 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:02,200 I will update that and the email blast will go out tomorrow. 417 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,020 And we should already have players, I believe, post it right in. 418 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,540 And for me, people about where to find the draft and how to comment. 419 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,180 Okay, perfect. 420 00:32:10,420 --> 00:32:17,940 So yeah, with that I will, I will yield to the board for any questions or initial reactions you folks have. 421 00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:23,800 Anything right now? No. I guess yeah, not right now, but thank you so much. 422 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,060 That was a lot of information. 423 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,340 We will now have to get rid of a lot of questions. 424 00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:32,900 I'm sorry, which is why I like to have the draft in your package. 425 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:36,940 Like, you folks have two weeks to read through this pretty thoroughly. 426 00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:42,120 that guest did talk about it and hopefully gain input from the public as well. 427 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,160 One change that we've had compared to the last plan update is that the bar for public engagement 428 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,120 that got raised pretty significantly. So hence a public summary of public engagement strategy and 429 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,740 having all of these things outlined. But it's paid off. We've seen a lot more people getting interested 430 00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:03,540 in the topic. I think it's especially relevant as we see these storms become more common. And 431 00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:09,200 people really wanted to make sure their experiences are heard and thought about as we think about candy 432 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,520 resilience. 433 00:33:12,220 --> 00:33:16,620 But certainly, feel free to reach out if you have any comments yourself on the 434 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,480 draft plan as well. 435 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:22,860 My inbox is open and thank you so much for making time for me on your event tonight. 436 00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:23,320 Yeah. 437 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:23,860 Thank you, Maggie. 438 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:24,980 Have a good night. 439 00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:25,640 Thank you. 440 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,640 Yes, you too. 441 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:27,260 Thank you. 442 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:27,900 Bye. 443 00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:43,480 I'm just going to go back to go on through the order so no junk ordinance violation 444 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:51,520 letters for approval there's two of them and they stem from one of them stems from 445 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:59,300 our site visit that chief maniel and I went to and the other one is from citizen 446 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,680 complaints several of them that live upon that road. 447 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,040 Oh, that's a new one. 448 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Do 449 00:34:17,630 --> 00:34:18,150 you need coffee? 450 00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:21,030 Okay. 451 00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:22,130 Do you need to find my coffee? 452 00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:22,610 Where? 453 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:23,890 I have them. 454 00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:27,290 Well, here's one. 455 00:34:27,550 --> 00:34:28,670 Here's the new one. 456 00:34:28,990 --> 00:34:29,990 One we haven't seen before. 457 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:42,990 So these are both, both of these notice of violations are the same verbage as the ones that were signed on the August 16th meeting is just different people. 458 00:34:45,910 --> 00:34:54,210 We're trying to stay the same format and consistency with our processes. I know it's a shocker. 459 00:34:55,030 --> 00:35:00,070 And I will say Scott did a lot of the heavy lifting on these for me and has the templates now 460 00:35:00,070 --> 00:35:05,590 So he's been a massive help on this endeavor. You know, I'm really that's really good 461 00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:18,770 So you just need to make a motion to sign up with your willing to sign up with your willing to sign up with your willing 462 00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:23,050 Further questions discussion all favors the eye 463 00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:35,350 Um, the next thing, so with these, yep, something that probably would help us, maybe a couple 464 00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:40,710 pictures just so we can see what it is we're talking about, because I, you know, one of 465 00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:44,070 them is kind of tucked around and back where you can't really see it, I don't know about the 466 00:35:44,070 --> 00:35:48,850 other one. The other one's right on the roadside, can't myself. Okay, wow. Yeah, I know you're right, 467 00:35:48,850 --> 00:35:55,590 one that's weird about loft and I you don't can't see it from the house so yeah pictures 468 00:35:55,590 --> 00:36:02,730 really nice okay I can do that going forward okay elect delegate for BLCT annual meeting I 469 00:36:02,730 --> 00:36:06,730 thought we already did that no we did it last year we haven't done it this year isn't there 470 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:12,730 special meeting there was a special meeting you're doing it I can't see okay this is the annual 471 00:36:12,730 --> 00:36:18,450 meeting it's the VLCT passive verb which I think we're members of all three their annual meetings 472 00:36:18,450 --> 00:36:27,230 the afternoon of October 6th. So. I'll make a motion to make in our voting delegate. 473 00:36:27,870 --> 00:36:31,050 Well, if there was the eye. 474 00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:38,950 Okay, draft town plan. So I just wanted to get this in front of 475 00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:45,650 you before we tried to finalize it. This is about 90% done from the planning commission. 476 00:36:45,650 --> 00:36:57,510 They've been working with Will Austin at Rutland Regional Planning Commission to get this done because he knew I didn't recognize anything. Will started in April or May. 477 00:36:57,510 --> 00:37:05,490 He's fairly new but he'd been a planner before this and he's working with Sean and with Devon there. 478 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:11,350 But he has done town plans in the past and is actually working on several of them right now. 479 00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:17,530 He's been very good at working with our planning commission, listening to their wants-needs desires. 480 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:26,710 I have gone through this with a time-fine tooth comb with a red ink twice on will, and submitted to him my barrage of notes. 481 00:37:27,010 --> 00:37:28,110 No page numbers. 482 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:29,310 I did to comment. 483 00:37:29,490 --> 00:37:29,970 He sent it. 484 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:40,940 After another page, after I gave you guys the copy, I emailed you on the bill. You lost the page numbers, and so he did email me a draft yesterday that does have the page numbers. 485 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:54,780 So in the future there will be page numbers again. He had taken out. We had a working copy. That's why there's a gray sidebar. We had a working copy with all the red lines. What was being added, what was being taken out. 486 00:37:54,780 --> 00:38:00,340 and it was getting pretty cumbersome so the planning commission asked him to do a blocked copy 487 00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:05,920 fixing everything taking out all the red lines and crossed out and just having what it's going to 488 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,860 read when we're done so I wanted to give this to you ahead of time because it will be coming to you 489 00:38:11,860 --> 00:38:16,940 like I said this is about 90% complete they're meeting September 24th I believe at 7pm 490 00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:24,540 to work on this and a new version of the enhanced energy plan because enhanced energy is supposed to 491 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:28,860 and add them to your town plan, and we'd like to just do them both at once for the approval 492 00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:31,500 process, so we're not warning meetings back to back. 493 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:41,420 So Will has just released the version 7 of the EEP, if anyone wants to see it, I'm more 494 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:44,820 than happy to give you a copy or email it to you. 495 00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:49,720 And this one's about 90%, but we wanted a chance for this look, we're to see it, what was 496 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,900 finished in case anybody has any comments. Feel free to read through it if you see anything 497 00:38:53,900 --> 00:39:01,440 But you would really like to see changed if you could give me feedback before the 24th meeting, so we can have them for that meeting that would be amazing 498 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,240 Just to keep the process going and get the ball rolling to finalize 499 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:07,140 This 500 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,800 way to get 501 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:22,610 For copies of these maps like enhanced them, so they are very good. I'm very good. Yeah, I can ask will for do you want like larger versions so that you can see it better 502 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:30,430 to be louder. They just need to be sharper. They're all kind of fuzzy and you can't see roads. 503 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:37,510 You can't see. I mean, I can guess where out our creek is, but you, you know, you can't see really. 504 00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:43,570 Yep, all email will tomorrow. The 24th of this month is the next, is the next planning commission meeting at 7pm. 505 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:52,250 I believe there's a committee meeting at 530 that day too. So if somebody wants to do a wreck and planning commission, 506 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:55,930 Yeah. If you're free to stop by, you can say hi to me and sit on my meetings with me. 507 00:39:59,470 --> 00:40:04,150 But I just want you to have a heads up before it came time to hey we need our approval. Yes. 508 00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:13,190 And then it goes through the original process. It does go through the regional process. I will say 509 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:19,030 I was at a Board of Commissioners meeting last night. We did two. We did walling furs and bencens. 510 00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:26,290 They're now looking just to make sure that you have what the statute will totally necessary in your plans. 511 00:40:26,290 --> 00:40:31,990 So those with those two towns in particular to just not where they did not issues they were not issues 512 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:34,810 So and I've sat in on a couple earlier in 513 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:39,070 Twenty twenty six and they all met compliant wise with 514 00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:43,570 Statutes so they were all approved. I just remember how it went with the last life 515 00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:46,610 It's real it did 516 00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:52,970 All right, cool 517 00:40:53,590 --> 00:40:54,830 Are reading material 518 00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:13,150 I can tell you the first time I went through the town plan, it took me about three and a half hours of redlining to get through it editing it as I went. 519 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:14,690 Now I do want to actually do want to do. 520 00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:19,710 And I have gone through the lamp a couple of times and that's a couple hour read minimum. 521 00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:21,890 They're pretty dense. 522 00:41:21,890 --> 00:41:24,470 All right. Okay. 523 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:34,140 All right. Next on the agenda is going draft request, which I 524 00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:36,690 don't 525 00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:40,910 not sure how we, it probably may be shouldn't have even gotten on the agenda because we do, 526 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:46,210 it's in violation. The date is in violation on our policy. Because I forget how long we said, 527 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:54,630 we needed, did we want 30, 30 days? 30 days prior. And I received the message on Fridays. 528 00:41:56,030 --> 00:42:09,190 It was forwarded to me Friday, September 4th, is she aware of that, I have no idea, I didn't know if she came in and talked to somebody. 529 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:20,010 She talked to me afterwards and she's like, why most of that? Because I've talked to Billy Hempel and the fireman are going to help me and I said, well, we have, it has to be approved by the select for before. 530 00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:22,910 Yeah, but you can do that and there's paperwork that's we filed with the state 531 00:42:23,550 --> 00:42:30,530 Right, so I know I think I think I think that even if we I have violated our own policies and gave you know the permission 532 00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:34,170 Give it a permission. I still think the state level that would get done in time 533 00:42:34,570 --> 00:42:41,390 Yeah, so I have it here and I hold chief and you know to hold off on signing it until I just left board decision tonight 534 00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:48,970 I think I think maybe reach out to her and see if she's open to another date within the time frame that which we want to have it 535 00:42:48,970 --> 00:42:49,370 Sure. 536 00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:54,650 I'll tell October what and for some library has theirs. 537 00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:55,550 That one. 538 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:58,650 So I don't know if this year that would work at all. 539 00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:02,010 I can't. 540 00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:03,710 I feel bad. 541 00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:05,630 It's good cause, but it's a good cause. 542 00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:07,110 It's certainly a good cause. 543 00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:11,090 But they've kind of given us no choice. 544 00:43:11,330 --> 00:43:15,870 I mean, because even if we approve it tonight, the odds of the state of ruin are getting 545 00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:16,610 through it. 546 00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:23,960 Yeah, it's on a Friday at four in front of a low throw. 547 00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:30,820 Yeah, that's not ideal. People are trying to get home and they're not going to be happy. 548 00:43:31,060 --> 00:43:32,480 They're being held up. 549 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,920 Well, they'll go on our street and... 550 00:43:36,020 --> 00:43:36,140 Yeah. 551 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,780 Yeah, but he can only write up one of them. 552 00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:47,000 you might get to if he was lucky of the 553 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,240 cruiser medium 554 00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:54,640 yeah i mean i guess yeah i don't know we're very sorry we'd like to 555 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,820 you know definitely again very very worthy 556 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,160 cause but we yeah it's to 557 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,440 we really need 30 days 558 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,900 and that you might want to let her know that two which he that will not only that but 559 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:18,000 Like when she does come back, again, and it sounds like maybe not this year, based on timeframes, but that, for that year, 560 00:44:20,980 --> 00:44:28,460 probably a week, early morning, during the weekend is better than Friday, right when people are getting out of work. 561 00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:28,840 Yeah. 562 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:35,310 And I did see that she is doing one Saturday, the 26th in Rottland City. 563 00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:38,030 Oh, so maybe that's why, maybe they're just, I know, going around. 564 00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:42,150 And they're doing it because it's the childhood cancer awareness month, so they're trying to hit them. 565 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:44,230 Oh, I see, yeah, I know. 566 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:48,410 Yeah, tell her, we really are sorry. I mean, that's just, we just can't. 567 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:57,720 Okay. But we can certainly set it up for, in the spring or year for now, you know. 568 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,860 Sure. And the sooner she gets it in soon. 569 00:45:07,420 --> 00:45:14,000 Okay, any questions in the orders that I know there was some? 570 00:45:16,270 --> 00:45:18,830 I don't think. I don't think that one's on you. 571 00:45:19,390 --> 00:45:19,830 Yeah. 572 00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:21,490 Yes, it is. 573 00:45:21,490 --> 00:45:22,550 What is on here? 574 00:45:23,530 --> 00:45:24,630 Oh, there it is right there. 575 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:25,170 Oh, there it is right there. 576 00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:25,470 Oh, yeah. 577 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,290 That's why he ended up doing it. 578 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:41,480 Yeah. 579 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,820 Yeah. I mean, I guess it's done. 580 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,260 But I want to know if that hydraulic pump actually failed. 581 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:50,480 And they just top the oil off. 582 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:52,100 That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. 583 00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:54,120 You should have checked into that. 584 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,720 You know that they should have flushed that system out, everything. 585 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:06,600 I wonder if they did, but it just said, on his right I said, topped it off, which to 586 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,320 me isn't drained and flushed. 587 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,000 I lost. 588 00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:21,710 The other ones I had, there were three for the, I don't even know how you pronounce that. 589 00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:24,290 one-one-grin dodge. 590 00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:27,510 Wonder again, those are the ones for the police crew, which cruisers. 591 00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:31,290 Right, you got one inspection with two-one-in-fifks. 592 00:46:31,290 --> 00:46:34,170 They're not inspections, while they were inspections, but they were also repairs. 593 00:46:34,810 --> 00:46:35,290 Oh, yeah. 594 00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:37,110 I've got to right here. 595 00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:40,440 So do we have three derango? 596 00:46:45,620 --> 00:46:50,980 So, we do have three derango, so we didn't never got rid of them. 597 00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:52,160 We haven't yet. 598 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,160 So, those things are money to it. 599 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:01,080 They were both for the 22 and are all three invoices were for the 22 and 23 Deringos. 600 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:12,380 The 23 Deringos had to have a driver side headlight assembly done, and that was the one that was 1634-84. 601 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,500 The headlight alone was 1220 or 20 of that. 602 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:40,280 And then the 2023 Dodge Durango, the air conditioning wasn't working, so they had to charge that, and then the 22 Durango wasn't starting, so they had to push it into the shop, 603 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:46,020 Couldn't locate the shift cable up-pitted police vehicle batteries at almost 13 volts removed 604 00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:49,740 lower skid plate and lower front fascia panel to access. 605 00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:54,640 Start a motor found B plus cable at starter was loose and blowing fused in the PDC that 606 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,840 powers up starter relay. 607 00:47:56,460 --> 00:48:01,700 This acquired cable starter looks clean, replaced fuse for third time, now starts right up 608 00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:05,800 as designated starter looks clean, braided cable strap, clean and not corroded. 609 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,680 Any 610 00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:33,280 questions in the orders? 611 00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:35,520 All right. 612 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,540 Then let's recess as select the order. 613 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,980 Open up as the liquor board. 614 00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:43,720 We have two applications. 615 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,640 So we have Moose is Pub. 616 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,720 This is one we wanted. 617 00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:51,360 We didn't want it for more information. 618 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,820 So we got more information. 619 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:54,500 Okay. 620 00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:55,920 It's on the back pages. 621 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,780 Highlighted doors highlighted. 622 00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:02,780 It's for the September 26th. 623 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,600 During the Saturday events of the Jeep weekend, 624 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,660 they're going to provide beer and wine service during Saturday events of the Jeep weekend. 625 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,000 On festival, Pittsburgh Village Farm. 626 00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:18,250 That's September 26th. 627 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,120 And it's 12 to 6 that day. 628 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,840 So they have their own staff monitoring. 629 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,000 I 630 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:03,060 have in within there the Pittsburgh Village Farms zoning event permits they have a specific 631 00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:09,260 place that is designated for alcohol consumption and it's I don't know if it's barricaded 632 00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:15,420 fenced if they put up ropes for the day just like what we do at Pittsburgh Day we have 633 00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:16,160 defense scenario. 634 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,720 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we didn't have the dates and then also, yeah, 635 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,500 I guess the violations would give pause. 636 00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:39,300 Yeah, Dolores does know the person and says that 637 00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:45,640 they're trying to rebuild their life. So she talked highly of them. Okay. 638 00:50:54,210 --> 00:51:08,370 And then the other one is for September 20th, 4 to 10 p.m. at Pittsburgh Village Farm, and this is for their fundraising dinner that they're doing at the Pittsburgh Village Farm. 639 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:22,100 And it doesn't matter why don't they use the same 640 00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:23,740 all the time. 641 00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:26,340 I think. 642 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,920 Is it just a scheduling thing or something? 643 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,080 It might be a scheduling thing. 644 00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:32,720 It might be because Jeep weekend, 645 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,620 Megan Fox does a lot of the planning for that, 646 00:51:35,780 --> 00:51:37,600 not necessarily puts for Village Farm for it, 647 00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:38,460 but it's being held up. 648 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,320 It puts for Village Farm. 649 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,240 Oh, okay. 650 00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:43,220 And the one for the 20th, 651 00:51:43,220 --> 00:51:46,600 it's actually someone that is a friend of Pittsburgh Village Farm 652 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,400 now newly on their board or something and they're willing to do because this one's a catering 653 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,740 permit and this one's 654 00:51:56,580 --> 00:51:59,140 a, well they're both catering permits but it's just, I think it just 655 00:51:59,140 --> 00:52:06,220 happens to be who knows who, well, should do a part of the segment. All right, all the favors say aye. 656 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,780 I come 657 00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:19,410 out of liquor board back into select board and unless there's anything else that I missed or any 658 00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:25,850 need to sign all these orders. I know it's out of order but I want to do this before you 659 00:52:25,850 --> 00:52:29,150 guys go into a executive session. Now's your time to sign, Lisa. 660 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:42,580 You have no idea how I'm going to shine here. Local hazard mitigation plan. When it's finalized, look at you, because you'll, will it be part of the town plan? 661 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:49,140 It's not the town plan. There's two different things. There's a town plan, and there's a local hazard mitigation plan. 662 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:57,280 Two separate things, local hazard mitigation plan has to be renewed every five years. Town plan is every eight years. 663 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:04,340 Okay. Sweet. The other question I had was, I don't need any answer now. I kind of want 664 00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:10,340 a lot that out there. The last time I attended a town meeting, we all feel with some 665 00:53:10,340 --> 00:53:16,280 conversation about what acute town this is and not having businesses and how lovely it 666 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:26,360 is to drive through town. Can we talk about the cow building? Oh boy, can we? Can it be? I mean, 667 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:33,920 the house just down the street from here when it burned somehow something got done that got 668 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:40,460 started here and I I don't know the detailed that was a while ago so I want to rehash 669 00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:49,980 old thing but it really is an I saw I drive through at 6 o'clock in the morning and it's 670 00:53:49,980 --> 00:53:59,040 Just I mean it was ugly when it was well-capped but now it's fallen into disrepair and it's an i-sore. 671 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:07,780 Unfortunately we don't have a condemned building policy or a health hazard policy or anything like that for that kind of building. 672 00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:13,980 I have talked to the owner of the building. She is not willing at this time to sell it. 673 00:54:13,980 --> 00:54:14,620 or 674 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:16,640 um 675 00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:18,940 may have it anyway 676 00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:22,980 she does not have the ability at the time at this time to rehab it 677 00:54:22,980 --> 00:54:24,780 I have tried talking to her 678 00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:28,700 it's going to be one of these ongoing conversations I think 679 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,640 but I have been talking to the owner of this 680 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,020 it is too bad because I mean somebody would fix it up 681 00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:38,800 is there anything through some 682 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:44,940 They were works of western not not neighbor works of western Vermont, but something like that that they could 683 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,660 Take the all things down and slap the coat of pink dot, right? 684 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:55,780 Just we go. We don't have any sanding to tell them how to 685 00:54:55,780 --> 00:55:00,920 Keep their property. Unfortunately because it's not like just junkpiled up outside of it 686 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:06,520 No, the mowing. No, I mean we don't have anything in our current ordinances, but I might think we might want to consider 687 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,920 You know 688 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,840 That seems like a pretty bare minimum. 689 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:10,960 Could that be a health issue? 690 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:13,840 Could be a meeting in the mosquito breeding grounds? 691 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,280 It could be. I don't know. 692 00:55:15,620 --> 00:55:16,080 Push the problem. 693 00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:19,240 But I will look to see what we can add for. 694 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,980 I mean, if we can take it, if I say wave, not it, not me. 695 00:55:24,580 --> 00:55:28,820 But if we can take it and see if there's, like, a mouse and rat problem, 696 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,080 it's certainly been empty long enough for there to be a potential health issue. 697 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,400 the neighbors, you know, you throw that from the neighbors. I haven't heard anything while 698 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,020 rocks there. Yeah, it is, unfortunately, though, the house right next to it is very 699 00:55:45,020 --> 00:55:51,300 well maintained. Yeah, and the old McConnell house across the street got really 700 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:57,840 though, you know, sold for dirt keep and somebody poured a lot of money into it and flipped it 701 00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:05,780 for more than three times what they bought it for. So I'm just kind of thinking, you know, 702 00:56:05,780 --> 00:56:10,880 the neighborhood seems to be revitalizing itself and then there's this house. 703 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:11,940 Yeah, you know, it is. 704 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,980 So I guess she just doesn't want to sell and that's we can't force her to sell and we can't. 705 00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:21,980 Can't force her to paint the house and 706 00:56:24,420 --> 00:56:29,340 maybe maybe Tommy can take some time and go see if there's a investigation. 707 00:56:32,260 --> 00:56:43,940 Not having to get somebody younger than you fall there, I didn't pay up my court of cookies yet, so, you know, you still owe me a dozen. 708 00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:46,520 You owe me a couple of hours. 709 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:47,120 I forgot that. 710 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,360 No, I know. 711 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:49,820 I know. 712 00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:50,460 I know. 713 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,080 I mean, years ago was that? 714 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,500 I've been out of that house. 715 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,240 I've been a years now. 716 00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:00,160 Long time. Long time. Long time. 717 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,680 Anything else? 718 00:57:01,940 --> 00:57:02,780 Nope, that's it. 719 00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:04,840 No, I'm going to vacate the promises. 720 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,000 Because y'all are going to go into exactly a second. 721 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:07,940 All right. 722 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,620 Okay, I have a good night. 723 00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:09,820 Okay. 724 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,480 All right. 725 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:14,480 Then I will take a motion to go into executive session. 726 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:16,360 In accordance with one VSA, 313A, 727 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,320 we're a premature general public knowledge 728 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,760 will clearly place the municipality 729 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,980 a person involved at a substantial disadvantage 730 00:57:22,980 --> 00:57:24,720 to discuss the appointment 731 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,920 employment or evaluation of a public officer or employee provided that a public body must make the 732 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,660 final hiring or appointment decision and explain its reasons for the decision and open meeting. 733 00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:38,660 One VSA 3313 A3 to include the town manager. 734 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,860 Okay, all in favor say aye.