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In the mighty name of Jesus Christ, we ask, amen, amen, amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice, sir.

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Well, good evening. Do we have any recognitions? Mayor, folks, I just want to recognize our animal shelter again. For the 94% no kill rate and there were awarded this test. We

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I know we recognize them on our Thursday meeting typically on Tuesday, but it was important for our mayor to be able to be present whenever we did recognize them.

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So I just want to give another recognition to them. Amen. I remember a few years ago.

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I don't remember who was in conversation with, but I was, I'd really like our shelter to be a no-kill.

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And it's really nice to see that we got there. So big shout out to the folks that work at the animal shelter.

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Absolutely. Okay, our consent calendars next.

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We have excused absences, Mayor Charles

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Starns and Council Member Rodriguez. We have the minutes, May 7th, May 12th, May 21st, June 9th,

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18th, July 9th, and 10th. And then the financial reports

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and the quarterly investment reports.

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Ask for any public comment on our consent calendar.

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Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion.

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Mr. Chairman, I move that we adopt the consent calendar as presented by Council Member

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House.

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Second.

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By Council Member Rescone, are there any council comments?

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All in favor?

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Mr. Mayor, we have a vote of six.

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Okay, item four, our chief building official, Mr. Mines.

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There we go.

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Keep forgetting to check.

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All right, we have a request for special use permit at 808 west 5th.

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This is for ZZ amusement.

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All amusement game rooms do require a special use permit within the city limits planning.

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808 is the black building that is right in the middle.

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This row of buildings is all owned by the same owner, and it goes 808 or excuse me, 866

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through 810th.

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This is the floor plan that the owners has provided for us.

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The building comes up with a little less than 1,000 square foot, around 9.50.

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It is in the general commercial zone, has required by ordinance.

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And it is more than 300 foot to the nearest church school daycare.

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So I mean, it's close, but it is over 300 feet.

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The required parking will be 10 spaces.

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They do have available parking on several sides of the building.

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After our last meeting, I went back and looked at the parking again.

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It isn't existing parking lot, and we will require that they strap the 10 parking spaces.

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And you can see it's the second building, so there is paved parking on most of it.

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That isn't a dedicated alley on the on the top side, the backside of the building.

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This case went for the Planning and Zoning Board on May 28th of this year.

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They did approve this for a recommendation to the council.

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And staff recommendation is to approve the special use permit.

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Thank you.

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Is there any public comment regarding the special use permit?

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I don't see any.

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So I will ask for a motion mayor

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protein. I move that we adopt resolution

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number

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I'm sorry ordinance number

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88 on the second reading is there a second?

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Okay

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Motion by councilmember house

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Second by and I'm just going to say Mary Elizabeth because I don't know what your new last name is

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there any counsel comments?

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Yes, sir.

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First of all, I apologize for missing this on Thursday.

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I have a little difficulty with all these game rooms.

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I drive down Fifth Street and I see them one after the other.

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Now, for anybody out there that doesn't believe how these businesses operate,

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let me enlighten you a little bit.

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I go to a lot of houses and I talk to a lot of people.

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You have drinking going on in there.

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They're giving away gifts.

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It might be a stuff toy, it might be a gift card, it might be little tear cards who cares

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what they are.

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Now we're going out back and we're trading those items for cash.

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And we have so little enforcement here, we don't have enough staff to oversee all this

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stuff that's going on.

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But if anybody wants to talk to me after this meeting, I'll take exactly where to start.

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But I'm very opposed to this.

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I'm, to be honest with you, I like going to Vegas.

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I'm not taking people's games away.

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We're just crowding playing with you with it.

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And if it was such an

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industry that was advantageous

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to plain view, why did Lubbock outlaw them all in city limits?

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You can find them in the exterior out in the county.

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But they outlawed them in Lubbock

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because they got tired of having to fight them and enforce them.

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So what do we do?

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We invited them here.

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We're trying to grow this community.

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We're trying to give our citizens a clean, decent place to live.

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And I don't think this is the route we should be taking.

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Totally against this.

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But anybody wants to talk to me afterwards?

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I'll enlighten you on what's going on.

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And I know it to be true.

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Anyways, that's what I got to say.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Mr. Mies, how many special use permits do we have right now for game rooms?

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Right now I have one active and I've got five pending.

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I've got two that are actually in construction.

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now so they can qualify for the special use permit. But I actually have five that are seeking them and we have how many in plain view right now.

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Legal one illegal. Now you have you have you have the one on I 27 and 70 with a big green sign.

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And you come down Fifth Street and you've got one or two more right there, the game rooms

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that have been approved.

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You've got the one right here on Fifth and Columbia, on that corner store that's been

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approved.

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So you've got three, four, five of them, I think, that's been approved.

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No, sir.

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They've got the game room written right on the front of them.

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I have one that is approved by this ordinance, and this ordinance says that any existing game

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room at the time of its ordinance is got six months to come into compliance. So that

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makes all of them save the one that has a current special use permit illegal. And that's

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every convenient store that has a game room. But you all passed. You all passed the happy

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stuff. That's the game room right there. They got passed through here. It was in the newspaper.

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I read it. And then you go down a little ways on Fist Street. There's another one that's

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game room that got passed because it was in the newspaper and this latest one was in the

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newspaper. So I mean I don't know if we're just skipping over something here but if the

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newspaper's posting that the council is voting on these I think the newspapers incorrect

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I've only ever voted on one. Just one. And that is the one if they're not coming into compliance

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and we're going to enforce this.

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Yes, we've already sent letters out

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to more than 15 different entities telling them

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that they are out of compliance

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because they're all over this time.

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What is the next step after the letter?

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The next letter is enforcement.

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They do not have a certificate of occupancy

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to operate the game rooms.

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And so we'll send them a letter of cease and desist.

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And after that, we can send fines.

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And then if that doesn't work, then we turn it over to our legal department.

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Yeah, because worst case scenario if we wanted to go there, you could actually pull their CEO and issue the business down.

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Well, mine is not opposed to anybody trying to feed their family.

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I'll never be opposed to that, but I'm opposed to how this is happening in our community.

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That's how I'm opposed to that we don't have the staff to enforce as many of these things

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that are popping up around town.

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That's my bigger thing.

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We don't have enough staff to enforce them properly.

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I have a question I think it's going to be for Matt, because I thought that we went through

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this when this first came up, when the first game room came in into town and applied, this

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This was the route we had to go and we changed our ordinance to fit it because there were

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several other cities that were sued and lost.

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These game room owners sued these cities and lost.

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So am I missing something is Lubbock right for a lawsuit then if they got an ordinance that

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bans it?

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Mayor Brotten, my understanding is that Lubbock County is currently in litigation over their

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game room regulations.

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My recommendation would be that we bring this back as an agenda item in a future council

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meeting.

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So that we can have a more complete discussion.

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Okay, so what do we do with this one?

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What's already been motioned and we're already there?

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Do we go along and finish what we're doing

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and either approve or not approve?

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Yes, sir.

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What is the legality if we vote no?

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The city's ability to regulate these game rooms,

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it is a gray area.

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It's something that I'm hopeful as a legislature

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will step in and fix during this next session.

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The city does have some authority, but the extent of that authority is at this point somewhat unknown, but I think that you could vote to either approve or deny the special use permit.

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Okay, so let's see if I can do this.

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So, I'm going to make a motion to amend the motion, I'm going to move that we not approve

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the special use permit at this time until we get further information.

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Okay.

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I have a second.

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It is.

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We have a motion and a second on the floor currently.

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Right.

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Correct.

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So, we need action on that motion first.

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So, we need to act and so we either need to go, yes or no on that motion.

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Right.

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Okay. All right, so were there are there any more council comments?

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Yes. How often are we checking our game rooms for compliance?

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Because I know we're short staff. We have talked about this at length.

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And I know right now the one I voted on, we only have one.

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Yes. But you said you have 15 letters that's a lot to keep up with.

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That is a lot to keep up with.

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So do we know how far like are we moving into a second letter?

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The game room that is in compliance several times.

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We've already addressed them on window 10 and some other things.

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And they've been forthcoming, but do I have the staff to constantly check game rooms?

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No, I do not.

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How are we following up on the letters?

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Is it, do you wait 30 days?

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I have to give them 30 days notice.

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in the next one of the last and then all these other game rooms are you are you talking

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about all the convenience stores they have all the games in them yes because

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More than one, our ordinance states two or more, you know, they have to meet the ordinance. So what is this letter basically saying that they need to go down to one or any at all? We don't, we don't tell them what decision they make. We tell them what the requirements are. And then we tell them where in the ordinance to find those statutes. And then they make their decision. And then at the bottom of the letter, we tell them they really need to get in touch with us. That way we can, we can talk about

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their particular situation because depending on the design of the building it may be impossible

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for them to meet the ordinance. They may have to, well like today, I had a lady come in

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and talk to me about redesigning the floor plan of their building. It is possible but they're

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going to take a large portion of their sales floor out of their convenience store because

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there's no one under the age of 18 can enter a game room.

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I can only give them the requirements.

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I can't tell them how to go about meeting them.

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And with this new game room that's here at SpinLocal,

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have you had any complaints or any issues,

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criminal activities that you know of?

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No, aware of.

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No, we've had complaints, but no legitimate complaints.

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And nothing that we as a code enforcement officer

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can address.

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Yes. Okay. Thank you. Yes. I'm not sure if this question needs to be directed to you or Chief Watson, but have we had any

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excessive calls to these game rooms?

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Chief Watson.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Any more council comments?

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Okay. All in favor.

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Here, pertain, we have vote of two four.

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And all against.

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Four against.

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Okay item number five. Our city manager.

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Mayor Proton council item number five we have is termination of line barter collections agreement.

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This is a agreement that has been we've had this since 2003 and items six and seven will pursue after this but just this one is the termination of line barter collection agreements.

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Okay, are there any, I'm sorry, I was zoned for a second thinking about the last item.

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Are there any public comments concerning, terminating agreement with the line barger, this law firm?

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Seeing none, I'll take a motion.

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Mr. Mayor Brotam, I move that we terminate the contract with on barger.

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moved by council member house. Seconded by council member Williams. Are there any

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council comments or questions?

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All in favor?

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Okay. Thank you. We'll move to item number six.

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Item number six is in line with Texas Code of Government's 22-54.1036, just

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stating that we as a city still need a contingent fee somebody to provide a legal collection

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service.

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The last one.

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Are there any public comments concerning our contingency fee findings?

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I'll ask for motion.

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Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, I make a motion that we approve section 2254.1036 of the government

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code.

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Second.

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All right, move it by Council Member Escon and seconded by Council Member Garcia. Any council comments?

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Basically, this is just a we no longer have one because we just terminated them. We need one correct

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So and then the next one in line is going to be here. We're going to get one

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All right

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I can see easy day all in favor. So said so done

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Thank you all right

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Okay. Item number seven.

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All right. Item number seven, we're making this easy.

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We're cruising through this.

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Item number seven is the approval

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of Purdue Brand and Collections Agreement.

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This is the contingency fee agreement

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to collect legal services.

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Currently, I think we stayed the last time.

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It's 2.5, a little north of 2.5 million

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in collection fees that we currently have since 1903.

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How much of that is actually collectible?

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And so we do have representation, they have been consistently here through this agreement.

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I have Jonathan.

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I can't, if any of you want to make a public comment or have anything to add to that.

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Okay, I'll take a public comment regarding Purdue, Brandon and Purdue,

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Pardue, Brandon, Fielder and Collins and Mont taking over our collections.

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Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion.

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Mayor Pro Tem, I would move that we approve a contingent fee contract with Pardue,

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Brandon, Fielder, Collins, and Mont, LLP.

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Second.

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Move by Council Member William, Seconded by Council Member House, are there any council comments?

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Yes, sir.

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1903, are these ever written off?

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We do not, maybe for the gentleman in the audience, but is it legal to write them off

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at some point?

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Oh, I guess.

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Man, yeah.

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I'm certain there are some statute of limitations on these, and I think your odds of collecting

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a debt from 1903 are slimmed in that.

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I think it's less than zero, yes.

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Do we have any idea how much we get to collect, because I'm guaranteeing we're not collecting

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from 1903?

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Jackie, do you have any numbers that you want to provide?

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I don't

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think I'm back, do you plan to use it?

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Okay.

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With the duty and local, there have been access, like, the JP uses food.

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So if they have to bring the JP, they'll also be able to use it.

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Yeah.

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That's nice.

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Yeah.

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Jackie's been a very good, huge advocate for efficiency,

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and planning to give some of the innovative ways that she's brought to my attention,

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and this being one of them, she's been able to identify ways

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that we can collect and definitely appreciate that,

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just someone who appreciates efficiency.

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Well, to take us away from 1903, I just want to say,

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I appreciate your presence here as often as we have sat

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down to discuss this, you guys have been here,

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and that actually means a whole lot to me.

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It shows me how invested you are in our community

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and in our program here.

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Amen.

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I do have a question without going into very deep detail.

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What is the collection process that you guys go through?

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Is it like letters, phone calls, letters again, phone calls, and then write off?

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Or how, just give us a little synopsis of the collection program that you have in place.

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I

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can move up here.

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Once it gets churned over to us, then we start our process of collection at that point.

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and any time you're trying to collect anything,

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the most valuable thing you have is somebody's location.

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As you can imagine, a lot of these people move around a lot.

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We use the address that's initially turned over to us,

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the information that we have.

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If we discover that that address is no longer good,

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then we continue to try to find a new address,

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and we continue that process until we locate the defendant.

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And once we locate the defendant,

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we will continue to send letters,

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will make phone calls. We also have text messages as well. And so oddly enough, we all get those text messages all the time from various things, sometimes they look like they're from real entities or real companies and sometimes you can tell that they're not.

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And when we started the text messaging we thought, well, is everybody just going to look at and say this is spam?

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And the good thing about it is, is oftentimes the defendant will think, well, maybe it's

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spam, but maybe I shouldn't ignore it, too.

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And so they'll pick up the phone and call the court and say, hey, I got this text message.

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And is this real?

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And yeah, it's real.

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You owe that money.

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Okay.

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Well, how can I pay that?

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So the text messaging has been very effective.

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And we hope that it continues to be effective.

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But to answer your question, our address research is a big thing, you know, once we discover

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that we don't have a good address, if we send something out and it comes back, then

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we look for something else.

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Essentially, I guess putting it the simplest way I can is we continue to try to collect

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on it until the court tells us to stop.

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So yeah, I mean that helps and it sounds like you've got a skip tracing program in place.

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And I think that we appreciate y'all being local and we understand our staff likes it.

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You know that you're just a phone call and down the road from us and appreciate y'all's

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coming on board.

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Absolutely.

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And that's always been very important to our firm throughout the 15 main offices that

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that we have across the state and it's the same for our

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Emerald Office and our Lubbock Office.

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We can do a lot of things over the phone and through email,

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but the most important thing is for everyone to see us.

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So we'll come into the office and we'll make sure that we answer

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any questions that we can and the funny thing is it's sometimes

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people won't tell you everything you need to know until

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you're sitting down across from a desk and all of a sudden

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you realize, okay, I realize what we need to do now.

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Right.

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Thanks, sir.

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Thank you.

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Can I answer any other questions?

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I'll go.

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I've got one.

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I want to just say at the start, I appreciate you being local as well and having care and investment

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in our community.

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That means a lot to me, and I know it does the citizens are playing to you.

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My question is, I know that there's diminishing your return as you go through time.

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What kind of, without getting it to a whole lot of detail,

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I don't need a graph for anything.

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But what kind of collection rate do you have on something

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that's six months old versus a year old versus five years old,

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versus 10 years old, something like that?

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I don't have the exact figures on that.

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Roughly.

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I can tell council members today that the newer it is,

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the better the chance of collecting it.

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Yeah.

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However, at times, we are surprised when we have an old one that we've been trying to collect

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on for quite some time.

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All of a sudden, we were able to get a hold of that defendant in one way or the other

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and it gets collected.

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So the newer stuff, you know, you probably have a higher percentage of that, but that doesn't

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mean that some of the older stuff can be collected.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you very much.

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But if you'd like to percentage, I'd be happy to figure that out and bring it back to the

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council if you'd like. I just remember being in business myself years ago that that a 30-day

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old account is you know reasonably collectible 60-day account is less less likely and you go through

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time and it gets down to 20 or 30 percent pretty quick. So I just I was just curious I I appreciate

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the job and I'll leave that to you so I'd say that the 1904 account that we have I don't know

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that we have any likely to collect it probably not it's probably no longer with us but probably not

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thank you very much thank you any other questions that I can answer well thank you for having us

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and letting us come and speak to the council for the I guess third time we have come back anytime

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I mean, like a statement.

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Thank you.

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All right, all in favor.

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Mayor Pro Tem, we have a vote of 6-4.

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OK, item 8, Mr. Chancellor, presentation

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on our utility rates, study results, and the recommendations.

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All right.

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This one is just an introduction from me.

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Today we have with us Chris Eckert from Nugin Solutions,

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who will present in depth the City of Plenty

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of you rate study that we have done over this past year.

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And this covers a lot of the capital improvement

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that we have coming up.

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Kind of the 1,000-pound grill in the room

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is obviously a current wall that is covered in this as well,

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but it won't still too much of a slender, Chris.

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Sure.

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Well, thank you so much.

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Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem.

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Council, Chris Eckert with New Gen Strategies and Solutions.

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It is a pleasure to be with you tonight.

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I was fortunate to be with you virtually last Thursday,

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but it really is nice to be here in person with you this evening.

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I'm actually from the area. I grew up in Marlboro, so anytime I can get back to the panhandle I always enjoy that opportunity.

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So again, I appreciate the chance to be here tonight and talk you through the results and the process of the water, wastewater and solid waste rate study.

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As we start tonight, though, I do want to kind of frame

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And this out for you, set the table, if you will, anytime that we are talking about the utility system. We have to remember that utilities are tracked in what's called a proprietary or enterprise fund within governmental accounting. That fund type is reserved for business type activities of government. So while we are providing a service to our citizens, we are also running a business for a business to be successful. It has to do certain things.

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First and foremost, we have to be in what I refer to as a revenue sufficient position.

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Our revenues must match or exceed our expenses.

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So that's one of the things we look at in a rate study.

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The second thing we do is we look at your reserve position.

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We have to make sure that we don't run around with zero dollars in the bank account.

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Particularly when you look at the water business during the winter,

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our revenues are lower during the summer, our revenues are higher.

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So we have a variable revenue stream, but within the utility business we also are very

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fixed cost intensive.

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So we can generally have 70, 80% of our cost is fixed cost that's occurring year round.

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And so we need to make sure that we have adequate working capital and adequate reserves so

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that we can sustain our business.

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So we look at that reserve position as well.

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Third thing we have to do in the utility business is we have to think about reinvesting

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in our business, putting back into our business.

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We have pipes, plants, pumps, all of those things break down over time.

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And often these are big dollar items.

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You can't just run down to the hardware store and pull something off the shelf.

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We may have to special order these items.

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These are expensive items that we're talking about.

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So we have to plan for that capital investment,

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and we need to reinvest in our business.

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Utilities tend to be out of sight, out of mind, right?

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We don't think about it, we go, we turn the faucet on, we flush the toilet, we don't think about that until the water doesn't come out or the wastewater doesn't go away.

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So it's important we stay on top of this and that's one of the reasons I'm with you tonight is your capital plan going forward.

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You have significant reinvestment that you're ready to make into the utility system and we need to plan for that going forward.

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So, as we talk about the utilities tonight, I do want you to keep those elements in mind

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because we will be hitting on those as we go forward.

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On the water and wastewater side, just high level as we've looked out into the future.

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If you incur the cost increases that we anticipate you're going to incur, if you fund that capital

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plan, it is our projection right now that your current rates would be insufficient.

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At that point, your expenses would exceed your revenues.

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One of the things we also want to make sure that we monitor and watch is a metric that

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we call debt service coverage.

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What we're looking at here is once you pay your operating expenses, we look at the revenue

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left over and we compare that to your debt service payment.

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We want to make sure that we are slightly above what that debt service payment is.

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This is important to maintain an adequate debt service coverage because this affects your

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credit rating.

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If you have to go to the bond market to raise capital to invest in infrastructure, you need to make sure you have a good credit rating.

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That good credit rating will lead to a lower overall cost of borrowing.

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So we want to make sure that we monitor that debt service coverage going forward.

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As I said before, $22 million in capital improvements is what we have going forward.

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As we look at those capital improvements, those are plant improvements, those are lift station improvements.

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Again, these are not small dollar items that we're looking at.

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I believe the lift station alone, I want to say, I've got it at the end of the presentation here,

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but I believe that's about $5 million just in the lift station alone.

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So these are big dollar items that we're looking at going forward.

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In addition to your capital investment, I want to talk about your wholesale water purchases from

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and Canadian River Municipal Water Authority, Cremois.

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This is a great resource to the community.

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You have done a fantastic job planning

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for your water needs.

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Water's essential to life, we have to have it.

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And so the city's done a very good job relative

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to your water supply.

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Cremois is in the process right now of planning

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for its next unit of water supply.

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It's estimated that will come online sometime

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in the 2030 Decadal period.

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But again, when you're thinking about water supply, that's not something that we can go out in just in 12 months, we can create water.

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It doesn't work that way, it takes time to go through that process.

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And so we're planning for that now, just as we have expensive capital improvements, this next unit of water will also be expensive.

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So we are now, we are starting to plan for that now as we look into the future.

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And so at the bottom of the, but bottom of the screen here, what you see is a table that shows what that cost of water is from crem wall.

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We calculated what that cost of water is per thousand gallons.

468
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:12,900
We want to make sure on our rate structure that we're not selling water for less than it cost us to buy that water.

469
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,540
So that's one of the things we monitor within this plan.

470
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:20,520
Again, looking at those year-over-year increases, you see those are fairly significant as

471
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,060
Cremwell starts to plan for that next unit of supply, but I also want to look at that

472
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:28,020
very bottom line, that percent of water budget.

473
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,600
That's what Cremwell represents of your overall water budget.

474
00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:33,500
Right now, that's about 23%.

475
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:38,020
We estimate that will continue to grow into the future.

476
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,960
So again, the two drivers of our recommendations really are your capital improvement plan, as

477
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,140
as well as the cost of water going forward.

478
00:35:48,340 --> 00:35:50,240
Coming back to that capital improvement plan again,

479
00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:52,700
you see that big spike there in 2027

480
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:54,360
with the different projects,

481
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,600
the plant projects, the list station projects,

482
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,860
everything that we've got going on there in 27.

483
00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:03,240
That is one of the drivers as we look going forward.

484
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,740
This is a hill that we have to climb.

485
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:07,020
You'll notice in our plan,

486
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,680
we've tried to spread this out as best we can.

487
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,800
We want to practice what we call rate gradualism

488
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,120
and prevent rate shock.

489
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:23,180
But you're going to see there's a, you know, there's a mountain we've got to get through here in the first few years of the plan, all associated with those capital improvements.

490
00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:32,260
So looking at that anticipated financial performance, I want to start by looking at the bottom of the screen here, that revenue sufficiency chart.

491
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,140
That gray bar, that's your projected expenses going forward for the water and wastewater utility combined.

492
00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:44,120
that line going across there, that is your projected revenue stream under your current rates.

493
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,320
Anytime that bar goes above the line, we're in a revenue insufficient position.

494
00:36:48,620 --> 00:36:54,400
So we want to monitor that, we want to get back to revenue sufficiency with rate adjustments going forward.

495
00:36:54,780 --> 00:37:00,340
In the upper left hand corner there, you see fund balance. You're in a good reserve position right now.

496
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:08,020
If we engaged in our capital plan, if we incurred those costs, those reserves would run out fairly quickly.

497
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:12,740
So, again, you've done a great job planning for the financial stability of the utility.

498
00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:17,300
We want to continue that going forward by maintaining that reserve position.

499
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Upper right hand corner, that's the estimated debt service coverage if you engaged those

500
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,340
cost, but did not adjust rates, obviously we would be in an insufficient debt service coverage

501
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:29,260
position as well.

502
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:34,800
So, all three of these elements point to, we need some adjustment to water and sewer rates

503
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,560
going forward, and that leads into our plan.

504
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:52,440
As we look at the actual design of your rates themselves, right now you charge a flat rate for all meter sizes, regardless of you have a 4-inch meter, 2-inch meter, 5-8-inch meter, 8-inch meter doesn't matter. You have the same fixed charge.

505
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,740
What we see in the industry and what we recommend is that you charge more for larger meters. Why is that?

506
00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:04,720
But when you think about that meter, the size of that meter, that dictates the demand

507
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,000
you can place on the system.

508
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:11,740
If you can place more demand on the system, it causes the city to incur more cost because

509
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:15,140
you have to install the infrastructure to meet that demand.

510
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,960
So this comes back to basic cost causation.

511
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:23,780
We're recommending that you adjust this structure going forward, charge those larger meters more

512
00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:26,560
to reflect the impact they have on the system.

513
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:32,020
When we look at your volumetric rate blocks, we always recommend some level of standardization

514
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:32,340
there.

515
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,360
They're not standardized right now.

516
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:36,800
We've built that into our plan going forward.

517
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:41,460
We also want to standardize the differential between your inside city customers and outside

518
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:42,320
city customers.

519
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:47,100
You don't have a lot of outside city customers, but we do want to standardize that differential

520
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:48,880
and you're going to see that in our plan.

521
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:54,200
Finally, we do right now charge commercial and residential the same fixed charge.

522
00:38:54,200 --> 00:39:02,900
We're adjusting that within our plan, it is typical that there be different rates between residential and commercial and so that's what we captured going forward.

523
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:10,760
Some of these same elements exist on the sewer side as well, just coming in and standardizing that inside, outside city limit differential,

524
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:18,040
adjusting, making sure that all units pay the same rate, it's the same service, so we want to charge the same rate for that.

525
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,140
And then again, creating that differential there between residential and commercial.

526
00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:23,100
So,

527
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:30,180
as we look at those structural adjustments going forward, we do all of this over time.

528
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,540
We phase into those larger meter sizes over five years.

529
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,980
We standardize that differential over time both within the tiers as well as between

530
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:41,560
in city and outside city customers.

531
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,320
The same is also true for that residential and commercial charges.

532
00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:50,620
All of that still applies on the sewer side as well, and we want to be careful.

533
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,880
We want to do this gradually.

534
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,100
We want to practice rate gradualism, we want to prevent rate shock where we can.

535
00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:01,370
The chart that you see on the screen right now are the table.

536
00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:06,170
This is really looking at the fixed component of our revenue stream and the variable component

537
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:07,090
of our revenue stream.

538
00:40:07,330 --> 00:40:08,710
Why do we look at this?

539
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:13,790
Well, it's important that we monitor what we refer to as the stability of our revenue

540
00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:14,290
stream.

541
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:19,810
We want to make sure that regardless of the water that is used, that we are maintaining

542
00:40:19,810 --> 00:40:21,370
a certain level of income.

543
00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:27,990
You see right now here in 2027 for water, it would be about 55% through the fixed charges on the

544
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:35,310
sewer side, 51%. So overall, about 53%. We are increasing this slightly going forward over

545
00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:40,610
the course of the plan. Why is that? The reason that we're doing that is because of that capital

546
00:40:40,610 --> 00:40:46,950
plan. Those 22 million dollars in capital improvements, we have to make sure that we can pay for

547
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:52,770
those improvements going forward. So we are slightly increasing those fixed charges as we go

548
00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:58,950
forward as a percent of the overall revenue stream. Again, it's not significant, it's not large,

549
00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:04,430
but we are increasing that. We do want to be upfront with you as we look at that revenue stability

550
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:05,310
going forward.

551
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,500
So looking at our rate plan in terms of that anticipated financial performance, we go

552
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:19,580
back to those same three charts. Our plan does get you to revenue sufficiency there by 2029. That's

553
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:20,820
really what we're focused on.

554
00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:23,160
We maintain your reserve position.

555
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,680
We also maintain that debt service coverage

556
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
always at one point two are higher

557
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,180
because we do want to put you in a good financial position

558
00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:33,900
in the event you have to access the capital markets

559
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:34,960
and issue some debt.

560
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,400
So again, overall that's important

561
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,300
to maintaining your long-term position.

562
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,880
But within that plan,

563
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
we'll talk here about what the impact is

564
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,940
to some of your customer groups.

565
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,760
And I'm starting here with a 2000 gallon customer.

566
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,800
Why do we use 2,000 gallons?

567
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:57,780
Well 2,000 gallons represents generally a single user in a dwelling by themselves.

568
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:02,180
This can sometimes be a fixed income customer.

569
00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:06,440
Sometimes this is our senior citizens and so we look at that 2,000 gallon level.

570
00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:13,280
But let me caution you, just because we have low volume use, that does not necessarily equate

571
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,740
to ability to pay because you may have a family that is on public assistance.

572
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:22,240
you know, four or five people in that family on public assistance.

573
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,840
They are in a position that they can't pay, but their water use is higher.

574
00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:32,340
So we do want to be careful, as we talk about low volume being fixed income, that is not

575
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:36,880
always the case, but we do use that benchmark here for those purposes.

576
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:44,200
Right now, a 2000 gallon water and sewer bill, $55.74 under our rate plan, we'd recommend

577
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:57,520
When you take that next year to $61.59, that's a $3.76 monthly increase in the water bill, $2.9 on the sewer charge, $5.85 overall.

578
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:09,880
You do see we have provided you a projection into the future, that type of rate increase basically holds through 2029 and then we get into more of a maintenance period there by 2030.

579
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,080
That being said, while I've provided you a projection into the future,

580
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,720
rate setting is not a once in done exercise.

581
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,780
We recommend that you look at this every year associated with your budget.

582
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:24,620
You might be able to perform better than what we're anticipating.

583
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,880
And as you look at this every year, you can make necessary adjustments

584
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,980
reflective of what the utility needs in each year.

585
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,480
So again, while I've tried to capture what the future looks like,

586
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,660
you will be looking at this again or you need to look at this again with your budget.

587
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:44,900
next year. So that's the 2000 gallon customer. Let me take you to the average customer,

588
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,740
the average customer 5,000 gallons. 5,000 gallons water, 5,000 gallons waste water. This is the

589
00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:56,720
benchmark that we use for an average single family home. This is a house that's probably not going

590
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,600
to have a swimming pool or anything like that, probably doing a little bit of yard watering,

591
00:44:00,860 --> 00:44:06,540
and that 5,000 gallons represents the monthly use over the course of the year that bill may be

592
00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:12,200
higher in the summer, lower in the winter. So this is the average over the course of a year

593
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:18,740
at 5,000 gallons. $69.12. For 5,000 gallons of service right now, we're recommending you take

594
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:28,660
that to $76.20. That's a $7.08 overall increase as you go into next year. Same trend we saw before,

595
00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:34,800
we have those basically steady increases through 2029 until we get into more of a maintenance period

596
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,820
there by 2030-2031.

597
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,720
So every council I'm in front of wants to know how do we look

598
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:49,960
compared to everybody else and so I provide this information but every council I'm in front of

599
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,100
I tell them the same thing. You have to be careful when you look at information like this.

600
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:59,340
This is not apples to apples. Communities are different. They have different water sources or different

601
00:44:59,340 --> 00:44:59,920
water from

602
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:26,360
There are different places in terms of their growth, there are different places in terms of their capital plan. So what you're seeing here is a comparable 2000 gallon bill in the communities listed on this chart. Again, right now you're right at that average level. We have you going slightly above the city of canyon here. However, right now every other community is going through this very same exercise as they go through budget.

603
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,900
I'm showing you your future bill compared to everybody else's bill today.

604
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:40,260
So if I rerun this in October or January, it will look different because communities are making these decisions right now, so please keep that in mind.

605
00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:42,500
But this is that 2,000 gallon bill.

606
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,520
The next chart I have for you is that average bill, that 5,000 gallon.

607
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:53,900
6912, you're slightly below the average right now, that 7620 takes you slightly above the average.

608
00:45:53,900 --> 00:46:00,680
but you see where you fall. Again, this will change as we go forward and as communities take action.

609
00:46:04,530 --> 00:46:12,410
Looking now at your commercial bill, 167 is the monthly bill for 24,000 gallons of service,

610
00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:16,950
where we picked the 24,000 gallons is taking your entire commercial class

611
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:22,190
divided by all of those commercial customers. So that's how we calculated that monthly average.

612
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:25,170
which 160, 70 for 24,000 gallons of service,

613
00:46:25,630 --> 00:46:29,210
going to 187, 61 under our plan going forward.

614
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:31,790
You are gonna see some higher increases here

615
00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:35,550
as we get further out into 2030 and 2031.

616
00:46:35,790 --> 00:46:36,450
Why is that?

617
00:46:36,670 --> 00:46:38,630
Well, these customers are using more water

618
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:40,110
and so they will pay more.

619
00:46:40,270 --> 00:46:42,350
You have what we call an inclining block

620
00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:44,570
or conservation based rate structure.

621
00:46:44,750 --> 00:46:47,450
We're maintaining that structure under this plan.

622
00:46:47,490 --> 00:46:51,930
So those that use more water will pay more for water as well.

623
00:46:54,500 --> 00:47:01,400
On that commercial comparison looking at that 24,000 gallon bill again you see you sit towards not at the bottom of the list here

624
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:09,440
but towards the bottom at the 160-70 going just slightly above that average position the 187-61 going forward.

625
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:15,720
And so that's what we have for you on the water and sewer side.

626
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:19,900
Would you like me to stop at this point and answer questions on water and sewer,

627
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:24,840
or would it be better for me to walk through solid waste and then answer all questions together?

628
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,660
What's your pleasure?

629
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,180
I don't see any action on this.

630
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:33,820
So we're not confined to the rules of motion and comments.

631
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,460
What do you guys have any questions regarding water?

632
00:47:42,940 --> 00:47:44,860
Yeah, I have a question.

633
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,760
So this is going to be an inclining ed, basically the same type of percentage increase here

634
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:58,500
year until 2031. That's our recommendation. Again, you'll have to look at this every year

635
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:02,400
and see what is ultimately needed. But that is our recommendation right now, yes, sir.

636
00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:10,020
Okay. And if we follow this plan, then capital, our capital reserves that we have in currently

637
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:18,720
place will not be diminished and we will be able to service dead if necessary. Should we

638
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:19,600
Should we need to?

639
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:21,260
That's the plan, absolutely.

640
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,280
And we'll put us in talking in business terms,

641
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,920
that'll put us in a profitable position

642
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,820
in our utility or enterprise fund.

643
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,000
That's correct, yes, correct.

644
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:32,520
Thank you.

645
00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:36,730
I do have a question, if I may.

646
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:41,910
Regarding the rate studies and recommendations

647
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:45,730
that you're making, I know that we're looking at to,

648
00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:48,910
probably looking at yearly going forward,

649
00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:57,410
is does your recommendation include the cost of water to the city as we go down, you know,

650
00:48:57,550 --> 00:49:00,510
throughout from now, from 27 on to 31?

651
00:49:01,170 --> 00:49:01,530
Yes, sir.

652
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:06,410
This includes the cost of water, it includes the cost of your capital plan, it includes your current

653
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:09,470
operations adjusted for inflation going forward.

654
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:13,630
So this is the whole enchilada, everything has been included within our projection.

655
00:49:13,950 --> 00:49:14,170
Okay.

656
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:15,110
Thank you.

657
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:25,130
So I have a question with all of these projections. Does this include the new water field tie-in,

658
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:30,130
the new water field tie-in that we're getting up in the northeast panhandle?

659
00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:35,170
Because at the very long, that's where the water field gets tied in. So that's included

660
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:43,930
in this. And so whether we like it or not, we're fixing to incur this debt. And I see this

661
00:49:43,930 --> 00:49:48,970
turned out to be a lot more reasonable than I thought it was going to be. I know we start

662
00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:56,930
looking at $20, $22 over a five-year period of month and that's $242,250 a year when

663
00:49:57,270 --> 00:50:04,210
we talk about low income and our senior citizens, but if we don't make those investments, we're

664
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:09,970
all going to get real thirsty real quick. So just so that the community knows why this has

665
00:50:09,970 --> 00:50:16,530
have been why we're having to do this. It's not by choice. It's by need. Well, you

666
00:50:16,530 --> 00:50:20,250
are definitely not the only community either here in the area or within the

667
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:24,930
state going through this same discussion right now. Agreed. We do a lot of

668
00:50:24,930 --> 00:50:29,050
work in the central Texas area as well. They're under drought just like

669
00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:34,580
everyone else and the next unit of water supply is vastly more expensive than the

670
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:38,920
unit of water supply was even 30, 40, 50 years ago.

671
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,380
So it's a reality that we have to deal with.

672
00:50:43,580 --> 00:50:45,660
I'm pleased to hear you say that this came in more

673
00:50:45,660 --> 00:50:47,060
reasonable that you anticipated.

674
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:49,760
If you do recognize these are some size of a link.

675
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:51,080
Some size of a link.

676
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,000
Well, they are, but the cost of getting water here

677
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,620
is horrendous.

678
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,180
Yes, sir.

679
00:50:57,740 --> 00:51:01,640
But would you rather spend another $240 a year

680
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,540
or do you want to move, you want to be thirsty?

681
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:06,980
That's your two choices.

682
00:51:07,540 --> 00:51:07,920
That is true.

683
00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:09,640
That is absolutely true.

684
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,380
I don't like it anybody else.

685
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:12,960
I'm almost a senior citizen.

686
00:51:16,930 --> 00:51:17,250
Me too.

687
00:51:19,220 --> 00:51:20,440
I have one other.

688
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,260
Larry stole my thunder on one of them, but that's okay.

689
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:29,820
We recognize the fact that water's limited in West Texas,

690
00:51:30,260 --> 00:51:31,720
in Texas in general.

691
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:43,380
and I think we are fortunate to have a source that is also forward thinking to plan for our needs, and that is Grimoire.

692
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:45,300
That is expensive.

693
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:59,720
The only ones that have a concern about, a deep concern about, is those 2,000-gallon customers.

694
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:06,660
customers. The senior citizens are the single families, the single mom and and her kids.

695
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:16,320
But I think these are necessary for the overall protection of our community to make sure that we

696
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:24,680
have adequate drinking water to provide to our citizens. And I know this is not probably not

697
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,360
But I would like for us to at least think about as a council, maybe setting aside a fund

698
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,500
to help some of those that are having trouble paying their bills in the future.

699
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:38,660
I think it's going to be far less than what we anticipate.

700
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:44,880
But we can remedy some of those things, you know, to soften the blow on those that are

701
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,640
hit the hardest.

702
00:52:48,180 --> 00:52:54,840
I worked for Tyler Technologies for, that was where my career was at, and we did utility

703
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,200
billing all over the country.

704
00:52:57,740 --> 00:53:04,940
We have very inexpensive water here in Texas, compared to other parts of the country.

705
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:10,940
And in places where you would think that they have water all around them, but their water

706
00:53:10,940 --> 00:53:11,540
rates are high.

707
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,920
And so once again, we don't like increases, we don't like, we don't like to talk about them.

708
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:24,160
But I've shared the same sentiment with Larry out there, they're much more reasonable

709
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,880
than anticipated.

710
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:33,240
I think they're well thought out, very well designed, my compliments to you and how your

711
00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:36,020
strategic approach to this has been.

712
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:46,120
So whatever problems this does come up with in the process, implementing this, I think we can remedy.

713
00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:48,260
Thank you very much.

714
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,240
No, and that's, again, appreciate the comments, relative to customer assistance programs, those are very common.

715
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,340
Would love to have the opportunity, if you decide to do some kind of customer assistance program,

716
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,600
would love to have the opportunity to discuss that with you.

717
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:22,840
There are some best management practices that we could consider in something along that lines, but again, that is a great consideration as you look at some of these increases, the other element that I would encourage the council to consider, is when you're looking at a customer assistance program, it's not just about money, it's also about helping people control their water use.

718
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:33,800
So don't limit customer assistance programs to just money look at water audits look at helping with low flow toilets low flow shower heads other things like that

719
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,840
Be creative and we'd love to help you with that

720
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:49,980
Good point good point but one thing I would point out just piggyback on all this is if you look at your water in your sewer rate against your satellite bill your cable bill

721
00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:59,260
your cell phone bill, those are wants, we don't need those, but we definitely need

722
00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:07,140
the water. Good point, Larry, because councilman Williams, Mr. Martinis is waving

723
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:07,620
his hand.

724
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:14,610
We do public comments as well, Matt. Absolutely.

725
00:55:14,610 --> 00:55:14,810
Absolutely.

726
00:55:15,330 --> 00:55:19,030
I do have a couple of questions on your percentage increase.

727
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:26,970
Is it the same percentage for everyone or is it going to be staggered or already mocked?

728
00:55:27,070 --> 00:55:31,250
It's staggered according to the usage of water where maintaining the inclining block rate

729
00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:32,030
going forward.

730
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:35,710
So it's not necessarily the same percentage increase across the board.

731
00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:41,610
Also because we're going and adjusting that fixed charge for the larger meters, they are

732
00:55:41,610 --> 00:55:45,910
going to have a larger percentage increase than somebody that stays on a residential meter.

733
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:53,070
So it is it is not fixed across the board. Okay, and then I know we I know council has discussed about

734
00:55:55,390 --> 00:55:59,670
Inreasonable that I don't think anyone in here is doing two thousand gallons

735
00:56:01,810 --> 00:56:03,130
Not the ones that are in here

736
00:56:03,130 --> 00:56:04,610
a lot more

737
00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:14,250
There's more than two of us living here, and I have an irrigation meter also and I do have cable

738
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:21,990
internet and those things that I think we get to enjoy but if we do look at the

739
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:26,770
people that are not everyone but the majority of the people that are in

740
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:31,390
number of the people that are in 2000 or less they're not doing those things

741
00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:35,710
and I've been an advocate that we really need to take care of those single

742
00:56:35,710 --> 00:56:42,190
income families in our community. We do have to think where maybe those of you that

743
00:56:42,190 --> 00:56:49,030
have internet or bus that have internet, we can report to go in a little bit higher percentage

744
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:54,650
because we're okay than those that are not. And I think that's something we have to consider.

745
00:56:55,130 --> 00:57:01,770
As this is plain view and we do want, I don't want people not to be able not to be flushing their

746
00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:11,510
toilets and not to be bathing because it did go above their face income that either so security or

747
00:57:13,070 --> 00:57:17,310
federal federal government, they're not going to raise them, or how much they're going to

748
00:57:17,310 --> 00:57:23,370
make. It does blame people enough on the rate. So I think that's something council that you

749
00:57:23,370 --> 00:57:31,610
would consider as you move forward. Yes, we are going to hurt 22 million with Kremlin, and we do

750
00:57:31,610 --> 00:57:39,250
have to take care of everyone. But I think the people that are spending those 10,000 gallons of water

751
00:57:39,250 --> 00:57:43,090
or a month, or I irrigated my irrigation meter

752
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:44,910
and I want to eat irrigating twice,

753
00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:49,430
18,000 gallons.

754
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:52,850
And I pay for it.

755
00:57:53,650 --> 00:57:57,050
That's a luxury that I get to have because I'm doing those things.

756
00:57:57,430 --> 00:58:01,270
I think that we can pay a little bit extra in order

757
00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:05,010
to allow those that are single income that are not as fortunate

758
00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:08,610
as we are to be able to have one income to incomes

759
00:58:08,610 --> 00:58:12,030
or a bigger income for one person.

760
00:58:12,430 --> 00:58:14,490
So anyway, just to keep that in mind,

761
00:58:14,770 --> 00:58:16,950
as you guys move forward to city council,

762
00:58:18,170 --> 00:58:20,490
we do want to take care of all the citizens

763
00:58:21,010 --> 00:58:22,770
by providing water to everyone,

764
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:25,410
but not everyone's in the same place.

765
00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:26,370
And thank you for the warmth.

766
00:58:26,570 --> 00:58:29,070
You guys are doing, we still have a look at solid waste

767
00:58:29,810 --> 00:58:33,330
and it's already an increase of 240 for that first level.

768
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:35,730
So then you're doing solid waste

769
00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:41,270
and you know, at the fair, sales tax, it will go up, it will be more.

770
00:58:41,650 --> 00:58:45,370
So anyway, I just, that's my two cents, I happened to look at the agenda

771
00:58:45,370 --> 00:58:48,530
and I saw that today was going to be a utility increase.

772
00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:50,870
I said, I have to be there for this meeting.

773
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:55,030
That way, if anyone asks me, why didn't you go up?

774
00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:57,370
I can say, hey, I spoke to me else before you have.

775
00:58:59,070 --> 00:59:00,550
It's because it's exciting.

776
00:59:01,550 --> 00:59:03,530
Anyway, thank you for the job you all are doing

777
00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:05,090
and thank you so much for your job here.

778
00:59:05,690 --> 00:59:06,110
Thank you.

779
00:59:06,250 --> 00:59:06,970
Thank you, Steve.

780
00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:07,790
Thank you, Steve.

781
00:59:08,650 --> 00:59:09,070
Exactly.

782
00:59:10,090 --> 00:59:10,510
Thank you, Steve.

783
00:59:10,690 --> 00:59:12,070
At least I'm down on that.

784
00:59:12,690 --> 00:59:14,410
We always appreciate your comments.

785
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:19,870
Anything else on water and sewer before we move through solid waste?

786
00:59:20,830 --> 00:59:24,450
This will hopefully be a little easier, a little quicker to move through.

787
00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:28,150
Here you see kind of that projected solid waste cost going forward.

788
00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:31,030
We've broken that down so you can see all of those elements there.

789
00:59:31,570 --> 00:59:35,970
but the key thing I want you to focus on on solid waste is really the equipment

790
00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:39,870
replacement schedule relative to the solid waste utility going forward.

791
00:59:40,270 --> 00:59:44,050
It's not $22 million but we do have about $5 million in equipment that we need to

792
00:59:44,050 --> 00:59:46,930
look at and I really want to point you to that landfill line.

793
00:59:47,550 --> 00:59:52,350
As you look at landfill going forward, landfill operations are going to get more expensive.

794
00:59:52,590 --> 00:59:57,150
There is equipment needed for that and so that does place directly into our

795
00:59:57,150 --> 00:59:59,970
recommendations as we look at how we

796
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,120
Just not only for residential and commercial, but how we adjust our gate fees at the landfill.

797
01:00:06,860 --> 01:00:12,040
So again, anticipated financial performance. On the left hand side, this is that revenue

798
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:17,480
sufficiency chart. Again, our revenues are below where our expenses are. So we're in a

799
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,920
revenue insufficient position. But looking at the right hand side, you are sitting on very

800
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:28,140
healthy reserves in your solid waste fund right now. So again, my compliments to you is

801
01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:32,020
the council for the planning you've done and everything you've done to maintain the financial

802
01:00:32,020 --> 01:00:33,660
stability of your utilities.

803
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:39,200
But what this allows us to do, it puts us in a position that we can slowly draw down

804
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:44,440
on some of those reserves for that equipment replacement while we slowly bring rates up

805
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,380
going forward.

806
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,540
And that's going to help mitigate some of that impact to customers going forward.

807
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:54,080
So with that, we are recommending some rate increases just like water and sewer.

808
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,420
or these are more moderate in terms of your residential customers.

809
01:00:58,780 --> 01:01:05,400
We reach that sufficiency by 2031, but we don't ever fall below that minimum days cash

810
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,980
on hand that we want to maintain, you'll see that table down below.

811
01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:13,940
We are drawing down on some of those reserves to help with that equipment replacement while

812
01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:15,340
we bring those fees up.

813
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:21,580
And so with that, looking forward again, we do get you to a revenue sufficient position

814
01:01:21,580 --> 01:01:28,160
by 2031, we do draw down slightly on reserves going forward, we don't fall below that position.

815
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:34,120
But again, this allows us a little more time to get to where we want to be while we mitigate that impact to customers.

816
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,300
What we're recommending for your residential customers, this is all your residential customers.

817
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:43,120
One container here, 1946, is that current bill.

818
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:50,240
We're recommending a dollar and four cent increase going into next year, taking that to $20 in 50 cents.

819
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,640
So, that's the residential adjustment.

820
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:59,140
You see, beyond that, the adjustments less than a dollar a month every year going forward.

821
01:01:59,580 --> 01:02:03,320
We want to do this slowly over time and we've been able to achieve that.

822
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:10,000
On that residential side, looking at those same cities that we compared to earlier, this is

823
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,540
an interesting chart to me, because it shows that you are one of the most cost-effective solid

824
01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:18,560
ways providers within this area.

825
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Right now, you are at the very bottom of this chart, even with the recommended adjustment

826
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,380
going into next year.

827
01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:28,940
You still sit at the very bottom of this chart for residential customers.

828
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:32,720
So basically, we would align you with where Lubbock is right now.

829
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,680
We don't know what these cities are going to do going into next year.

830
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,140
So again, your position is not going to change on this chart.

831
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:43,040
You will see others change going forward.

832
01:02:43,180 --> 01:02:47,560
But again, a little more than a dollar a month for residential on solid waste side.

833
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,820
On the commercial side, it's a little more aggressive on the commercial side, and this

834
01:02:52,820 --> 01:02:57,920
just represents the level of service that's being provided to those customers.

835
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,020
What you're looking at here is a commercial customer.

836
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,020
Two times a week pick up.

837
01:03:02,180 --> 01:03:06,960
This is a three to four cubic yard container, so that's the level of service being provided.

838
01:03:07,180 --> 01:03:10,320
88.96 going to 97.42.

839
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,000
This is an $8.46 increase here for those customers.

840
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,160
But this reflects the level of service being provided, and what it costs you to provide that service.

841
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:30,140
But even with that, as we look at that same comparison, right now you're basically in the average level of all the communities here on this list.

842
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:37,280
We would bump you slightly up, you're not changing relative position, you're still staying basically right there at the average.

843
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,220
One of the most significant changes, though, is on the landfill side.

844
01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:48,360
This is for non-scheduled service, one secured ton of waste right now, $46 for that load

845
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,040
coming in.

846
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,140
We'd recommend taking that to $50.86.

847
01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:57,040
That's about almost an 11% increase here, $4.86 increase.

848
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:03,560
But again, our landfill operations are expensive, particularly as we look at that equipment replacement

849
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,940
schedule going forward.

850
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,380
And so, as you look at that same comparison, you do see a jump here.

851
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,440
And that's why I wanted to really set this up for you what's driving that.

852
01:04:13,540 --> 01:04:17,640
It's the equipment in our cost in running that landfill.

853
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Additionally, when we think about landfills, we don't just have to think about today.

854
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,000
We have to think about the future.

855
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:28,440
We have to think about the post closure cost into the future and what we have to do to maintain

856
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:33,320
that site in order to meet regulatory requirements.

857
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,320
So, we are recommending a bump here, not all the way to the top, but you are going up

858
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:43,380
to that $50 level. You'd sit right below canyon within this recommendation.

859
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:51,200
So, again, with solid waste, key takeaway there, residential, just slightly more than a dollar a month, commercial,

860
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,680
a little more than that, representing the level of service, and then we do increase that landfill fee as well.

861
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,600
Are there questions I can answer on the solid waste side?

862
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,500
So

863
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,160
I have a question just because you go through this

864
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,180
the fast you've got it all down and remember I so slow this

865
01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:15,100
down just a wee bit right here and I asked the question if

866
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:19,880
we did nothing and we have such a nice one balance where

867
01:05:22,090 --> 01:05:22,270
would

868
01:05:22,270 --> 01:05:27,670
we be if we lifted the same in five years let's back up

869
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:30,210
here so

870
01:05:34,210 --> 01:05:37,650
if you did that's under proposed rates hang on let me

871
01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:44,130
go back to our, let me go here. If you did nothing over the next five years, you'd be

872
01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:49,370
completely out of cash by 2031. There would be no fund balance. There would be no

873
01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:52,070
fund balance. That's what I wanted to hear. Yes sir. Thank you.

874
01:05:55,150 --> 01:05:57,310
Chris, the, you mentioned

875
01:05:57,310 --> 01:06:03,990
that $50 charge. Now is that for external customers coming into our landfill? That's external

876
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:09,150
cost, the customer's coming in. That assumes a secured load. Now you may have, I don't

877
01:06:09,150 --> 01:06:10,970
I know this off top of my head, I'm gonna defer to staff.

878
01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:12,850
You may have different contracts out there,

879
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:15,910
where you have people that are contract operators coming in,

880
01:06:16,050 --> 01:06:19,470
but this represents somebody bringing a ton of ways secured

881
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:22,270
into the landfill, non-scheduled service.

882
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:23,010
The Rupert.

883
01:06:23,150 --> 01:06:24,070
And that is-

884
01:06:24,070 --> 01:06:25,170
Rupert, after a hell storm.

885
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:25,730
Exactly.

886
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:30,030
And that is a flat charge of, we were proposing $50,

887
01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:31,250
or is that a tonnage?

888
01:06:31,350 --> 01:06:32,470
That's a flat charge per tonn.

889
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:33,650
Oh, per tonn.

890
01:06:33,790 --> 01:06:34,890
That is a per tonn fee.

891
01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:35,630
I missed that.

892
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:36,510
That's a key point.

893
01:06:36,830 --> 01:06:37,530
Okay, thank you.

894
01:06:37,530 --> 01:07:01,030
Now, I just want to, what one comment there, I don't want to overcharge, certainly, I don't want to undercharge, but with the tendency, if we undercharge, we could be attracting customers from outside of this area to come our dump in our landfill.

895
01:07:01,270 --> 01:07:06,770
I know we already are, but we don't want to overflow it with outside things.

896
01:07:07,930 --> 01:07:15,190
I know a couple of municipalities that have got into a problem because they didn't have

897
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:20,950
the capacity and they were cheap on their garbage from contractors and so forth.

898
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:29,350
And I think most people don't realize, and I'm sure it hasn't changed a lot since the

899
01:07:29,350 --> 01:07:35,850
last time I was here, but we have a fee that we must save every year for closing a sale.

900
01:07:35,850 --> 01:07:40,830
Oh, yes, a tremendous a huge dollar amount just to close it. Yes

901
01:07:42,730 --> 01:07:48,830
So under this opening is ridiculous in expense, but you were still paying even after we open it

902
01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:50,790
We're paying to close it. Right

903
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:55,550
So so we we get it the jurisdiction gets it from both directions

904
01:07:56,210 --> 01:08:02,150
Just to clarify even if it's a resident of our city and they're doing some work on their home

905
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:05,230
and they got a ton of stuff and they go.

906
01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:06,610
They're still paying that $50.

907
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:08,110
It's just not outside.

908
01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:11,490
It's any debris that's used for renovations

909
01:08:11,490 --> 01:08:12,410
or things like that.

910
01:08:12,850 --> 01:08:14,550
Even if it's a resident of Plainview,

911
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:18,170
it'll jump from 46 to 50 and continue on

912
01:08:18,170 --> 01:08:20,130
whatever the rate was through 2031.

913
01:08:20,370 --> 01:08:20,810
That's a good point.

914
01:08:21,270 --> 01:08:23,770
So yeah, then I would ask the question.

915
01:08:23,870 --> 01:08:24,770
So I go to the landfill.

916
01:08:24,970 --> 01:08:27,630
I don't know why, just an example here.

917
01:08:27,630 --> 01:08:35,170
I have trash bags of household waste, not construction and debris, but household waste

918
01:08:35,170 --> 01:08:44,570
that I can't put in the dumpster. That's not being charged for. Right. So just so

919
01:08:44,570 --> 01:08:49,310
everybody knows that what we're setting these rates for, if you're not throwing it

920
01:08:49,310 --> 01:08:52,490
in a ditch and you're carrying it to the landfill, it's not going to cost you

921
01:08:52,490 --> 01:08:57,170
anything. As long as it's not construction and debris. Or if you have lambs, lambs

922
01:08:57,170 --> 01:08:58,650
are not charged either.

923
01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:59,250
Lambs?

924
01:08:59,490 --> 01:08:59,850
Lems.

925
01:09:00,390 --> 01:09:01,110
Yeah, that's correct.

926
01:09:01,450 --> 01:09:01,550
Yeah.

927
01:09:02,170 --> 01:09:02,290
Yeah.

928
01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:10,240
I visit the landfill quite often with limbs.

929
01:09:10,540 --> 01:09:11,000
So do I.

930
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:11,380
Yeah.

931
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,860
I put an 8,000 pound tree down there earlier this year

932
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:15,340
in small pieces.

933
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,380
But Brock's not here so we can brag on him in safety here.

934
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,920
He does a tremendous job out there.

935
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:22,300
Yeah.

936
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,260
He really does.

937
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:24,040
Any

938
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,080
other questions I can answer for you

939
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,000
on the solid waste side?

940
01:09:32,170 --> 01:09:32,990
Thank you very much, Chris.

941
01:09:33,190 --> 01:09:36,710
We really appreciate the in-depth look

942
01:09:36,710 --> 01:09:40,670
We look at our city and what we need to do to make sure we maintain our funds.

943
01:09:40,990 --> 01:09:41,810
No, thank you so much.

944
01:09:41,870 --> 01:09:48,790
Appreciate the opportunity to work with you and again, if there are other questions that come up as you move towards adoption here, just let me know.

945
01:09:48,890 --> 01:09:50,470
We're happy to provide any additional information.

946
01:09:50,890 --> 01:09:51,970
Thank you, thank you so much.

947
01:09:52,230 --> 01:09:52,830
Appreciate it.

948
01:09:56,810 --> 01:10:03,730
Okay, item number nine, which is a resolution for COPS.

949
01:10:04,290 --> 01:10:05,010
Chief Watson,

950
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,340
a good evening, honorable Mayor Pro Tem and Council.

951
01:10:19,340 --> 01:10:29,500
I appreciate the opportunity to come up here and request a resolution of support for the City of Plainview to pursue a community-oriented policing grant.

952
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,640
The Department of Justice back in June opened up the grant process.

953
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:45,960
They funded it with $750 million, half of which is going to large cities, and half of which is dedicated to smaller communities such as Plainview.

954
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,340
We are requesting support in that resolution.

955
01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:53,000
The resolution actually is not required.

956
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,760
It's me coming forward to get you all support before we do something that would have an

957
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,500
economic impact upon the community.

958
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,220
The two positions we're asking for.

959
01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:08,140
The first one is a community-oriented policing officer that we would like to station down

960
01:11:08,140 --> 01:11:09,700
in Fair Theater.

961
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:16,600
And we've talked about this within staff, city staff, and to focus on the downtown community,

962
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:21,460
the residents down there and the business owners down there, to fly the city flag a little

963
01:11:21,460 --> 01:11:27,360
bit, to establish quite literally a walking beat that would be expected that officer visit

964
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:32,340
with community members, absolutely, get to know the people there, our visitors to downtown

965
01:11:32,340 --> 01:11:35,640
with friendly hello and see what they're doing and see if we can help them out.

966
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,860
and to meet with business owners and get their concerns.

967
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:41,140
I talked about this a little bit last week,

968
01:11:41,140 --> 01:11:45,040
but one of our number one calls or requests

969
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,740
for criminal trespass at our local businesses.

970
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:51,620
We have a substantial amount of nuisance theft

971
01:11:51,620 --> 01:11:56,060
in this community and a strong community trespassing program

972
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:57,040
helps with that.

973
01:11:57,660 --> 01:12:01,800
The other thing we have, the intent is to get some

974
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,000
of our known criminals to quit visiting our vendors

975
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,940
and ripping them off.

976
01:12:04,940 --> 01:12:06,620
I mean, it's really as simple as that.

977
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:08,720
But it's a multi-pronged approach.

978
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,260
We'll be working with our business district up now

979
01:12:13,260 --> 01:12:15,760
fifth street and with our business district out

980
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,080
on the west side or any, frankly, any business

981
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,480
on our end town that's having problems.

982
01:12:21,460 --> 01:12:23,400
The other thing is crime prevention efforts.

983
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,680
We've started really starting to beat the drum

984
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,240
on crime prevention again.

985
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,620
We have a pretty strong in partnership

986
01:12:32,620 --> 01:12:37,520
with PISD outreach twice a year with the community, so we become more forward

987
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:43,740
facing with our community. Newson's abatement as part of it, traditionally when

988
01:12:43,740 --> 01:12:47,160
you're engaged in community or in police and we do this already but this is

989
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,800
going to be a little bit more focused. We look at

990
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,700
residences that are falling down and helping out code enforcement and working

991
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:59,100
with code enforcement to do some newson's abatement and try to

992
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,780
try to clean up so many more problematic areas we have in town.

993
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,660
The second position as authorized and they call it

994
01:13:07,660 --> 01:13:11,220
common sense community oriented policing, I could call it

995
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:14,760
what we used to call 30 years ago, professionally oriented policing, but

996
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,820
it doesn't matter what the federal government says or

997
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:20,140
what the current Department of Justice guidelines are

998
01:13:20,670 --> 01:13:23,520
is to start developing some violent crime reduction strategies.

999
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,340
We have violent crime reduction strategies in place.

1000
01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:30,660
but what we'd like to do is add an additional detective for felony assault of

1001
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:36,360
offenses. That person and specific to the grant would assist our narcotics

1002
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:41,340
officer. We have a solo narcotics officer right now. We do have complaints about

1003
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:49,100
residences or vacant residences and less reputable business locations in

1004
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:53,240
town where narcotics trafficking is taking place. It's hard to do that work by

1005
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,800
itself what we generally do is we hook them up with whoever's on duty and patrol and they go to work.

1006
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:05,400
Working as a team is a lot more effective having been a former narcotics officer myself, but we'll be

1007
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:11,760
using that investigator to also specialize in street level narcotics use. There's a direct

1008
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:17,860
nexus between violent crime and property crime and crime in general with street level narcotics use

1009
01:14:17,860 --> 01:14:22,780
and street level narcotics dealing. We had a philosophy in Dallas. We can't always catch you

1010
01:14:22,780 --> 01:14:28,760
robbing the store. We can't always catch you bonking someone in the head using polite language.

1011
01:14:29,660 --> 01:14:35,820
But man, we can catch you with methamphetamine or crack cocaine, showing my age,

1012
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:40,980
and we can't put you in jail for those. So it's a tool. If we go after our known offenders,

1013
01:14:41,260 --> 01:14:45,400
if we put our known offenders in Hale County, if we make good clean case reports and

1014
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,100
conjunction with this attorney's office in conjunction with our law enforcement partners,

1015
01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:55,360
We can reduce crime. We have been reducing crime significantly over the past five years.

1016
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,880
This is a really great way for us to fulfill our strategy.

1017
01:15:00,860 --> 01:15:28,780
We have been talking about adding additional officers. One of the things I could ask is, what are current racial officers? When we're fully staffed, it's about 1.68 per thousand, where I came from, the norm was 2.25 per thousand. It doesn't sound like a huge difference. But in plain view, when we get below our authorized staffing, that means we have about three officers on patrol on deep nights, it's just unacceptable. And we'd like to, this isn't a cure all,

1018
01:15:28,780 --> 01:15:32,920
but it would get us a little bit further down the road, so I appreciate your consideration

1019
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:41,420
on this issue and your support, there we go one more, there are our course costs.

1020
01:15:42,580 --> 01:15:47,980
So the federal government takes a look at what our baseline, our entry-level police officer

1021
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:50,960
is, that's what the willing to fund 75% of for three years.

1022
01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:56,660
And then we have the commitment of making the other 25%, it's approximate.

1023
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:02,960
The important thing to understand is that when year 4 comes along we are committed to maintaining those positions.

1024
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,060
We literally change our organization and equipment chart.

1025
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:09,660
We show how many officers we have.

1026
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,700
We show those two additional positions and we're obligated to keep them for that fourth year.

1027
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:19,400
So the fourth year, what we're basically saying is we're buying an additional officer for the fourth year or two additional officers.

1028
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:24,540
If after that fourth year you don't want to sponsor those officers or maybe we can't financially do it,

1029
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:32,260
Well, you can shut the grant down, but the next question is, well, what happens if you don't do that?

1030
01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:40,400
Well, the feds can come in and reclaim their money, and that would be expensive and a silly way for us.

1031
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,300
It was an opportunity to apply for grants in the future.

1032
01:16:46,910 --> 01:16:47,490
I apologize.

1033
01:16:47,790 --> 01:16:51,950
They always want me to say that we are supplementing our budget.

1034
01:16:52,110 --> 01:16:53,870
We are not supplanting our budget.

1035
01:16:53,870 --> 01:17:08,950
So, I'm not bringing money in and we're not going to reduce the police department budget by the same amount that we got from the federal government and we're not that kind of organization summary.

1036
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:14,290
I have some estimates, we're estimated cost foreign $44,082 for three years.

1037
01:17:14,290 --> 01:17:20,970
The federal contribution will be $250,000 capped at $125,000 per officer.

1038
01:17:21,130 --> 01:17:26,070
The estimated city contribution will be $195,482.

1039
01:17:27,670 --> 01:17:34,910
And I appreciate y'all's consideration and be glad to answer any questions y'all might have right now.

1040
01:17:36,710 --> 01:17:40,570
Thank you, Chief. Do we have any public comments regarding this resolution?

1041
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:44,730
If not, I'll ask for a motion.

1042
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:49,310
I'll make a motion to approve resolution R26-704.

1043
01:17:49,930 --> 01:17:50,210
Second.

1044
01:17:50,690 --> 01:17:54,090
Moved by Council Member Garcia and seconded by Council Member Rouse.

1045
01:17:54,830 --> 01:17:56,590
Are there any council comments?

1046
01:17:58,760 --> 01:17:59,040
Yes, sir.

1047
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:02,840
Oh, I thought you said we had a 25% matching this.

1048
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:05,660
Yeah, it's approximated.

1049
01:18:05,660 --> 01:18:09,540
It doesn't work out that way because it pays for base salary.

1050
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:16,160
It doesn't pay for the, the, um, the, uh, fight, uh, and, um, got it, yeah, got it.

1051
01:18:16,220 --> 01:18:16,680
Got it.

1052
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,080
That's, that's, that sticks out like a sort of, no, it is, it's not, it's, it's not, it's

1053
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:21,400
It's here.

1054
01:18:21,980 --> 01:18:22,700
I apologize.

1055
01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:24,180
I did say at the last meeting.

1056
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:24,760
No, that's fine.

1057
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,940
It's not a true 75.

1058
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,260
And that's all fine.

1059
01:18:27,460 --> 01:18:29,240
I'm, I'm, I'm all for it.

1060
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,260
Uh, I would just wish I knew that we spent this kind of money on officers that would make

1061
01:18:34,260 --> 01:19:00,500
I could career and blame you, I totally concur and we are almost at 100% staffing, wonderful, and we're heading the right direction, I will point out that over the past couple of years, we have been really leaning into hiring local people so they reflect our community, their members are a community, those are the kind of young people that are going to stick around, and they are.

1062
01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:18,890
I'm sure that we all do when we have more officers out on the field, we feel more secured

1063
01:19:18,890 --> 01:19:24,290
or should, anyway, that we're protected against the bad guys out there.

1064
01:19:25,650 --> 01:19:52,410
And as we go forward into wanting to attract more businesses, more housing, and more things of that nature that contributes to our tax base, and so on, I think this is something that it's a good deal for playing you, it's a good deal, and I think that that would send a message to

1065
01:19:54,290 --> 01:20:01,670
businesses, if you will, that would are looking into making their home in plain views,

1066
01:20:01,850 --> 01:20:03,890
such as bringing in their business.

1067
01:20:04,570 --> 01:20:09,310
That they see that we are proactive in keeping our community safe,

1068
01:20:09,690 --> 01:20:17,170
and that we are willing to spend a little bit of money to invest in our community,

1069
01:20:17,250 --> 01:20:21,410
our citizens, and their businesses, that we appreciate that that much for them.

1070
01:20:22,490 --> 01:20:28,150
Yes sir, and I do want to be clear this is a request for a grant.

1071
01:20:28,330 --> 01:20:30,050
There's no guarantee that we're going to get the grant.

1072
01:20:30,210 --> 01:20:30,330
Sure.

1073
01:20:32,030 --> 01:20:35,610
First shot at any grants, a lot of times you'll be at the top of the list next year.

1074
01:20:35,870 --> 01:20:36,630
It's kind of what you hear.

1075
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:42,470
The second thing is the City Council and the community has been incredibly supportive of public

1076
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:44,090
safety here for the past couple of years.

1077
01:20:44,710 --> 01:20:49,490
I appreciate all the work and support from the Council and I know what's paying dividends

1078
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:56,770
And I absolutely concur, it's good for the business environment if we can knock those crime numbers down, those index crimes down.

1079
01:20:57,170 --> 01:20:57,490
Yes, sir.

1080
01:20:58,610 --> 01:20:59,290
Thank you, Chief.

1081
01:20:59,810 --> 01:21:00,630
Thank you, Chief.

1082
01:21:00,750 --> 01:21:06,110
And I have just one little clarifying thing, that 19542, that's for the three years total.

1083
01:21:06,110 --> 01:21:06,610
Yes, sir.

1084
01:21:07,050 --> 01:21:09,010
That's not for a year, that's for the three years total.

1085
01:21:09,370 --> 01:21:09,710
Yes, sir.

1086
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:12,850
And then the fourth year, we're up for the 148494.

1087
01:21:13,790 --> 01:21:14,330
Yes, sir.

1088
01:21:14,370 --> 01:21:14,930
For the two officers.

1089
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:16,570
I think that's a bargain.

1090
01:21:16,910 --> 01:21:17,130
Thank you.

1091
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:18,330
Yes, sir.

1092
01:21:18,330 --> 01:21:19,910
I appreciate it.

1093
01:21:21,010 --> 01:21:21,810
Okay, any more questions?

1094
01:21:23,130 --> 01:21:23,870
All in favor?

1095
01:21:27,820 --> 01:21:28,180
Great.

1096
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,120
That passed.

1097
01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:30,180
Thank you very much, Chief.

1098
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:30,980
I appreciate you.

1099
01:21:31,180 --> 01:21:31,640
Thank you, Council.

1100
01:21:34,660 --> 01:21:37,120
And now we will convene into executive session,

1101
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,620
pursuant to Texas government code 55-

1102
01:21:39,620 --> 01:21:40,060
Number 10.

1103
01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:41,860
Do we have one more?

1104
01:21:42,020 --> 01:21:42,140
Yeah.

1105
01:21:42,300 --> 01:21:42,660
Number 10.

1106
01:21:43,420 --> 01:21:43,860
Oh.

1107
01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:44,460
First.

1108
01:21:44,780 --> 01:21:45,440
Forgive me.

1109
01:21:46,580 --> 01:21:47,340
Number 10.

1110
01:21:47,660 --> 01:21:48,280
Mr. Crossway.

1111
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,280
I didn't mean to ignore you.

1112
01:21:51,380 --> 01:21:51,540
Sorry.

1113
01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:55,060
All right. Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and Council.

1114
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,640
This is for an attachment to the Parks Master Plan.

1115
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:06,240
We worked with Alan Phillips with Jacob and Martin.

1116
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:11,060
They gave a presentation last Thursday over the structure.

1117
01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:13,860
And basically the reason we were wanting to do this.

1118
01:22:13,980 --> 01:22:17,800
Our Parks Master Plan, it's great to have a plan going forward

1119
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:23,740
as far as when we replace things in our parks and where we replace things and

1120
01:22:23,740 --> 01:22:28,960
then what order. And it works really well for our pocket parks like Thomas Park,

1121
01:22:29,540 --> 01:22:33,760
Little Thunderbird and our neighborhood parks, the 16th Street and Hood and Wood

1122
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:39,540
Parks, Givens, those kind of things you have one-place structure, a few

1123
01:22:39,540 --> 01:22:44,200
benches and things like that. So as long as you're keeping open space in your

1124
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:52,060
parks that parks master plan really develops that well. But our two regional parks which are the

1125
01:22:52,060 --> 01:22:57,820
parks that people come in from outside and all our community events are in and things like that

1126
01:22:57,820 --> 01:23:04,020
which is city park on Broadway and running water draw park which everybody calls regional.

1127
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:10,400
For those parks we have a lot of different structures and there are multiple play play structures

1128
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:17,360
and as we add things give you a good example of that when kidsville was put

1129
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:22,040
in 1990 where we had tennis court right next to them and it just didn't fit

1130
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:29,340
in well and so a good plan going forward on those two regional parks to make

1131
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:34,700
it flow well to make it safer for our kids. A great example of that in this plan

1132
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:41,680
and are for running water drop park is to move the purple playground that is

1133
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:49,360
up by the entrance and move it closer to kidsville. That way if a parent has kids

1134
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:55,640
at two locations you know they can watch their kids. So it really gives us a

1135
01:23:55,640 --> 01:24:04,040
good guide going forward for those those those parks. Not only does it

1136
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,740
that Park's Master Plan was done in 2022.

1137
01:24:08,380 --> 01:24:09,680
This will be out on typically.

1138
01:24:10,180 --> 01:24:14,180
We update our Park's Master Plan anywhere from five to 10 years.

1139
01:24:14,180 --> 01:24:18,460
It's been on average a look back about every seven years we're updating this.

1140
01:24:18,660 --> 01:24:24,160
And the reason it's important to keep those updates is if we're applying for grants

1141
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,060
or those kind of things, we have to have an updated plan for those.

1142
01:24:31,490 --> 01:24:35,770
And this is the presentation that he had kind of given over the course of it,

1143
01:24:35,770 --> 01:24:42,970
But really, it's a layout of this is running water draw parks.

1144
01:24:42,990 --> 01:24:46,730
It's got a new baseball fields and stuff over here.

1145
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:49,890
Adding some parking, adding some overflow parking

1146
01:24:49,890 --> 01:24:56,010
and paving that over behind YMCA, adding some splash pads,

1147
01:24:57,010 --> 01:25:02,670
relocating things as we replace them in a fashion that makes sense.

1148
01:25:03,870 --> 01:25:15,810
and then a guide as far as through six years of phasing or not years, six phases, and kind of split that cost up.

1149
01:25:16,330 --> 01:25:24,450
We did take this to Parks Master Plan of Parks, the Parks Group, advisory board.

1150
01:25:24,770 --> 01:25:26,550
Yeah, Parks and advisory board, thank you.

1151
01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:33,030
We did take it to the M and get their input as well, especially as far as when we do things

1152
01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:36,750
and what they would like to add that we didn't have added already.

1153
01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:43,030
And we took their recommendations and incorporated that into the plan as well.

1154
01:25:46,270 --> 01:25:54,270
And then Broadway Park, we did add one new play structure that's ADA accessible and those

1155
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:59,970
kind of things and building off of that, adding some restrooms, the baseball additional

1156
01:25:59,970 --> 01:26:05,270
parking that we received that from Park Advisory Board that that was real important to them,

1157
01:26:06,110 --> 01:26:13,950
and really have a good layout closing some of the roads down to make it more safe, and

1158
01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:20,810
again, a phased approach where it made most sense and kind of spread that cost out over time.

1159
01:26:21,890 --> 01:26:28,010
and staff would recommend approval of the addition to the park's master plan.

1160
01:26:28,710 --> 01:26:29,690
Thank you.

1161
01:26:30,210 --> 01:26:38,030
Are there any public comments regarding this resolution adopting these appendices for our regional park and our Broadway park?

1162
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:43,520
Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion.

1163
01:26:44,420 --> 01:26:50,740
Mayor Pro Tem, I move that we accept resolution number R26-705.

1164
01:26:52,660 --> 01:26:57,740
Move by council member house and seconded by Mary Elizabeth.

1165
01:27:00,340 --> 01:27:02,100
Are there any council comments?

1166
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:03,840
I have a minor one.

1167
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,700
You know I wasn't here Thursday and I apologize but I had to go this like three times.

1168
01:27:09,180 --> 01:27:10,540
This is a great plan.

1169
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:10,940
Amen.

1170
01:27:11,260 --> 01:27:11,700
It is.

1171
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:17,880
When I saw the splash pad in Broadway that really, I'm not a big parks person and I couldn't

1172
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:24,420
think in the realm that people do this job, but this was impressive and I look forward

1173
01:27:24,420 --> 01:27:25,120
to seeing it grow.

1174
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:26,620
Absolutely.

1175
01:27:27,260 --> 01:27:33,680
This one is, this plan is more of an implementation strategy of our larger parks that, you know,

1176
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:40,440
it's not just what gets replaced, but the overall flow of it, and that's important when you're

1177
01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:45,960
considering children streets that they're crossing, streets that maybe shouldn't be there,

1178
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:51,480
That we're just there because they were there in the past rock structures that just existed in the past

1179
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:55,680
This is a implementation strategy of you know what if we did put

1180
01:27:56,860 --> 01:28:02,440
You know a new pickleball court. Where would that go instead of just saying well, they've just replaced the tennis courts

1181
01:28:02,440 --> 01:28:07,220
Yes, yeah, there was some thought put into it now to say it's very impressive and of course

1182
01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:10,620
I know it's not going to start tomorrow, but it's it's a plan

1183
01:28:11,540 --> 01:28:15,180
And it comes to fruition is going to be a beautiful plan

1184
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,000
some of the things that Tim didn't mention this time,

1185
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,960
but he mentioned on Thursday with area for food trucks.

1186
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,880
You know, I think that's great.

1187
01:28:24,700 --> 01:28:26,680
The outdoor, the amphitheater.

1188
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,040
You know, we talked about having a place

1189
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,040
for outdoor music during our strategic meeting,

1190
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,580
and there it is, there's the amphitheater.

1191
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,800
So I think this is a fabulous project or plan,

1192
01:28:37,060 --> 01:28:39,640
and I can't wait to see it come to fruition.

1193
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,700
And the safety of it, you know,

1194
01:28:42,700 --> 01:29:00,120
So we'll talk about closing some streets and just combining some, making a combination up there to where mothers and kids don't have to cross busy streets like we currently doing down Broadway Park, you know, that's safety.

1195
01:29:00,540 --> 01:29:12,480
I mean, I'm a firm believer on safety night. We've got to take care of our little ones. There are future and I think that that's a great thing that this plan is showing to be coming.

1196
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,100
I mean, in the future.

1197
01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:19,750
Tim, I've seen some restrooms going up.

1198
01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:23,410
Do you have any plans for 16th Street?

1199
01:29:23,870 --> 01:29:24,710
Getting a restroom as well?

1200
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:27,810
We do have it in the CIP.

1201
01:29:28,690 --> 01:29:32,010
Coming up, we've got two more restrooms scheduled to go in.

1202
01:29:32,450 --> 01:29:33,330
And that's one of them.

1203
01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:34,310
Okay, thank you.

1204
01:29:36,820 --> 01:29:38,840
Seeing no more questions, all in favor.

1205
01:29:42,700 --> 01:29:43,020
Great.

1206
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,140
How does your animus thank you?

1207
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:46,520
Thank you, Tim, very much.

1208
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,600
Now we can get to number 11, right?

1209
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,280
Maybe it's just wishful thinking before.

1210
01:29:52,180 --> 01:29:54,340
Let's convene into executive session,

1211
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:58,340
pursuant to Texas government code, section 551-087,

1212
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,880
to discuss or deliver.

1213
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:14,000
Regarding an offer of a financial or other incentive to a business prospect that the city seeks to have locate, stay, or expand, internear, the territory of the city of plain view, and we will go into executive at 805.

1214
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,620
Hopefully

1215
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:28,340
you saw a picture of that.

1216
01:30:35,660 --> 01:30:36,380
Oh god!