1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:26,060 Thank you for bringing me in. I'm already sorry to get. You're good. Thank you. Thank you. We'll call the order. The board of directors, meeting is the Metropolitan Water District of Pleasant Grove. Pulling public meeting at 5 p.m. Wednesday, March 18th of 2026 in the city hall conference room at 70 south 100 days, Pleasant Grove, Utah. 2 00:00:28,410 --> 00:00:31,330 This is a public meeting. Anyone is invited to attend. 3 00:00:31,330 --> 00:00:35,770 and indicate that they've excused 4 00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:41,410 Schring-Mail's board member and Craig Vinker. 5 00:00:41,550 --> 00:00:44,810 Craig Vinker has some other commitments. 6 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:49,690 He'll have Paul on the line with us on the telephone. 7 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:52,050 Head of board members are present. 8 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:56,210 Prison also is Wendy, Assistant Secretary of the board. 9 00:00:57,450 --> 00:01:00,710 And Denise serves as a finance director 10 00:01:11,770 --> 00:01:12,450 I 11 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:31,960 have a video for us to watch for that, it's about eight minutes long, so everybody enjoy! 12 00:01:39,030 --> 00:01:41,250 So, what is the Open and Public Meetings Act? 13 00:01:41,710 --> 00:01:45,610 It's the state law that ensures government actions and deliberations are openly negative. 14 00:01:46,430 --> 00:01:51,850 Before we continue to keep in mind that this video is an overview of exceptions based on your enemy types. 15 00:01:52,390 --> 00:01:54,830 We focus on local government, not state environments. 16 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:58,550 When in doubt, read the law and consult with your legal counsel. 17 00:01:59,150 --> 00:02:01,590 So, what's considered an Open and Public Meetings? 18 00:02:02,190 --> 00:02:05,330 It's one of public body corn, also known as a simple majority. 19 00:02:05,790 --> 00:02:08,050 It needs to discuss or act upon government business. 20 00:02:08,050 --> 00:02:13,010 It includes the meetings sometimes referred to as workshops or executive sessions. 21 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:18,950 Regular meetings, public hearings, electronic meetings, and emergency meetings are all open and public meetings. 22 00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:23,190 Open and public meetings don't include chance for social meetings. 23 00:02:24,130 --> 00:02:29,170 Public hearing is a type of open and public meeting where citizens have a reasonable opportunity to speak. 24 00:02:29,870 --> 00:02:36,910 Public hearings happen when a government adopts a budget and poses or increases taxes or fees or transfers money from an enterprise fund. 25 00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:41,870 These meetings have extra notice in posting requirements and won't be addressed in this 26 00:02:41,870 --> 00:02:42,210 video. 27 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:46,190 An electronic meeting is a type of open and public meeting that can be electronically, 28 00:02:46,990 --> 00:02:48,410 such as via phone or the internet. 29 00:02:49,070 --> 00:02:53,750 Remember, the governing body must adopt a resolution rule or ordinance allowing and governing 30 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:57,070 electronic meetings to have additional requirements too. 31 00:02:57,870 --> 00:03:02,230 An emergency meeting may be held to discuss an urgent matter due to unforeseen circumstances. 32 00:03:02,230 --> 00:03:06,270 is in order to hold the meeting. 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My first meeting, a governing body can't 47 00:04:21,290 --> 00:04:27,670 interview someone in line to fill an elected position, discuss filling a midterm vacancy or temporary absence, 48 00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:36,610 discuss the character, competence or health of the person whose name was submitted for consideration to fill a midterm vacancy with temporary absence, 49 00:04:37,090 --> 00:04:43,150 group any ordinance resolution, rule, regulation, contract or appointment, or take a vote, 50 00:04:43,470 --> 00:04:48,210 unless it's a vote on a motion to end the closed portion of the meeting and return to an open meeting. 51 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:53,770 When a governing body closes a meeting, the following must be publicly announced and entered 52 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:56,970 into the minutes of the open meeting of which the closed meeting was approved. 53 00:04:57,430 --> 00:05:01,910 The reason or reasons for holding the closed meeting, the location where the closed meeting 54 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115 00:08:59,270 --> 00:09:02,710 Make pending minutes available to the public within 30 days. 116 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:06,810 Within three business days, after a few minutes of an open 117 00:09:06,810 --> 00:09:09,570 meeting, make approved minutes and any public materials 118 00:09:09,570 --> 00:09:12,810 available at the Utah Public Notice website, 119 00:09:13,510 --> 00:09:16,090 the entity's primary office, and the entity's 120 00:09:16,090 --> 00:09:21,810 website. In three business days after holding out the meeting make an audio recording of 121 00:09:21,810 --> 00:09:24,770 the meeting available. I have 122 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:35,360 a one thirty four. I make less money than friends who fairly 123 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,160 pass high school. Good for you. 124 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:51,540 Okay. That's it. That's it. He's a good attorney. I just have two 125 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:59,080 comments on that. Why is the lock a key but the clothes is a freezer. I bother me the 126 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:07,040 whole time. Are we putting a body in there or what's the symbolism. And it showed 127 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:13,100 somebody absent from the meeting. It's like a hospital bed. We have to be there. 128 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,520 I thought 129 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Any other comments? 130 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,220 Seeing none of what I have number two to do. 131 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:32,400 I approve of a quarter one through the Metropolitan Water District Financial. 132 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,760 I can't comment. 133 00:10:36,780 --> 00:10:38,840 Not too much there. 134 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,000 So, gave me the first quarter and the second quarter. 135 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,060 So, we had some cash in the water. 136 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:50,780 And then we purchased some shares. 137 00:10:51,820 --> 00:11:01,920 So our biggest cash in the world is we've had quite a few, all of our apartments, I was 138 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,860 200, really 39,000. That was a pretty good one. Other than that, 139 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,100 we've done some acquisitions 140 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:23,180 in about 110, so not tons, but I think we're going to talk about that. So we've just had 141 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:27,080 to chair for just oh did that's not on here probably because it's a 142 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:36,420 December yeah okay yeah so we'll come out there of which PGIC you 143 00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:39,620 know if any 144 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:47,800 trans meal the only trend I've noticed is that there are other entities who've 145 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:55,460 now started buying PGIC shares that by gentlemen's agreement did not buy 146 00:11:55,460 --> 00:12:03,460 until now. And so there's other people willing to purchase those. 147 00:12:05,260 --> 00:12:06,340 It's only one. 148 00:12:08,390 --> 00:12:16,850 Yeah, one entity. Yeah, that's a pretty big entity. 149 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:20,770 With deep pockets. So, 150 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,980 well, I would set forth most of that. We approved the quarterly financial statements. 151 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,700 motion by behind the approval of the courty. 152 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:38,690 All seconded. Seconded by President DeSkashman. 153 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:42,230 Seeing that, I was in favor of the AI. 154 00:12:43,290 --> 00:12:43,510 What? 155 00:12:44,210 --> 00:12:45,010 Pleasant fellows. 156 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:48,300 Any abstentions? 157 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,860 Paul, do you want to vote on for the record? 158 00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:52,540 Yeah, I'm good. 159 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:53,720 I was going to say aye. 160 00:12:53,980 --> 00:12:56,150 I was just going to thank you. 161 00:12:56,490 --> 00:12:57,250 Thank you, Paul. 162 00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:59,730 Motion carries unanimously. 163 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:05,030 I remember I did land that roll call, not all the roll is 20, you know. 164 00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:08,530 I know that one is not going to be to make it a roll call. 165 00:13:09,050 --> 00:13:11,630 But I know number three with you on approval in the minutes. 166 00:13:12,410 --> 00:13:14,710 November 12, 2025 meeting. 167 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:22,460 We're distributed prior to our meeting. 168 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,520 Yeah, I repeat you, I might have seen it. 169 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,540 I didn't have any correct answers. 170 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,160 So I'm going to hit an outstanding job in a lot of detail. 171 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:35,860 So I may recommend that we approve the match in November 12th, this is going to be my meeting. 172 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:38,340 I'm motioned by Marty to approve the match. 173 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,180 It's presented. 174 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,800 I'll second by Brian. 175 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:43,900 Further discussion. 176 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,060 Seeing those in favor say aye. 177 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:48,820 Aye. 178 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:49,940 Those opposed. 179 00:13:50,180 --> 00:13:50,380 Aye. 180 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,060 I've got the record scope all over the ass. 181 00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:56,340 Any abstentions? 182 00:13:56,660 --> 00:13:56,900 No. 183 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,420 Motion carries unanimously. 184 00:13:59,420 --> 00:14:06,740 So I put it item number four, acquisition of North Union staff for advanced water shares. 185 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:15,460 That's money to put that on the agenda, because of the disillusionment of North Union water company. 186 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:24,740 Those shares we held, North Union President Grove held 28.74 shares. 187 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:36,080 and a pump water board held 54.8 to 2.4 share total of 83.56 to 4 shares. 188 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,540 Pleasantville Irrigation Company held 200 shares with North Union. 189 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,700 Here can you give me those numbers again the first one you said there? 190 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,200 PG. 191 00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:47,760 Yeah. 192 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,480 28.74 193 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:59,980 to FPG City, Metropolitan Water Board, Pleasant Grove, 54.2. 194 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,580 And eight, two, two, four, 195 00:15:04,090 --> 00:15:10,030 for a total of eight, three point, five, six, two, four. I go too fast. I'm warning. 196 00:15:12,530 --> 00:15:13,290 And pleasant 197 00:15:13,290 --> 00:15:20,450 growth irrigation company held 200 shares of North Union water. Now we're all those shares, North 198 00:15:20,450 --> 00:15:27,930 Union. Yeah, for all of us. They're not. They're not probably. Now was the disillusionment of the North 199 00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:37,470 Union. The actual water ride is nearly so aptly made aware of. I just saw we had water certificate. 200 00:15:38,190 --> 00:15:43,790 It's hidden North Union on it. I wasn't growing the discussion was over. I'm out of this. 201 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:51,350 I asked the translators and the approval ban for our shares. So they're in the process of doing 202 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:58,330 I wanted to have the joint meeting for the Provo Mansion, North Union, Water Board, 203 00:16:00,810 --> 00:16:07,890 February, February 9th of 2026, kind of hash out things and work through things. 204 00:16:08,990 --> 00:16:17,310 Of course, I have a good friend of the board member here, it's kind of spearheading things 205 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:17,850 with that. 206 00:16:17,850 --> 00:16:21,270 That's when I was being transferred over Brian. 207 00:16:22,010 --> 00:16:24,010 There's been a number of meetings. 208 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,330 There's an expert on everyone. 209 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:30,050 So we congratulate you, Brian. 210 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:32,030 Thank you very much. 211 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:33,770 I don't know if condolences. 212 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:34,810 Yeah, I might be both. 213 00:16:35,750 --> 00:16:38,570 And that's just to follow what Marcus stated. 214 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:39,930 That's all true, accurate. 215 00:16:40,970 --> 00:16:44,470 North Union is just on the record is. 216 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:50,430 It does not own any water rights in the cell if it only has shares in PGIC or P-Probo Bench. 217 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:52,470 Too many acronyms today. 218 00:16:52,690 --> 00:16:52,970 Yes. 219 00:16:53,090 --> 00:16:53,890 So, Probe Bench. 220 00:16:53,890 --> 00:17:02,430 So, when they dissolve that company, the North Union shares then devolved into their Probe Bench components and both companies dissolved. 221 00:17:02,830 --> 00:17:12,590 And so, though, each shareholder will be getting their individual water conveyed to them with some other Probe River. 222 00:17:15,630 --> 00:17:22,270 So PGIC, Pleasant Grove City and BG Metro, they all have a certain amount of shares in North 223 00:17:22,270 --> 00:17:22,570 Union. 224 00:17:22,850 --> 00:17:27,410 That'll revert to a probable bench share. 225 00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:34,630 So if everybody that owns anything in North Union will get an individual share of probable 226 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:35,050 bench. 227 00:17:35,050 --> 00:17:36,630 Proble bench is dissolving, too. 228 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:37,210 Oh. 229 00:17:37,670 --> 00:17:40,970 Yes, so that will translate to a natural flow and a storage flow. 230 00:17:40,970 --> 00:17:45,190 Yep, and there's two components because they also own some 231 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:51,970 Probe river water user storage. So there's two water. I shall get a natural 232 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:57,810 natural flow and then a storage right and as part of that 233 00:17:58,370 --> 00:18:00,650 the Probe river water users' association 234 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:02,990 Required whole numbers 235 00:18:03,550 --> 00:18:08,610 So you either had to buy up to a whole number or sell down to a whole number 236 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:20,250 So that's probably what we're going to get to on the agenda is we're going to have a bill that's going to come do is we elected to buy up and the bill is is going to be. 237 00:18:22,850 --> 00:18:26,710 It's not finalized 100% but around $45,000. 238 00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:38,730 It's about their evaluation was $70,000 per event share was what the board, but you could 239 00:18:38,730 --> 00:18:42,250 take your straight-out and go trade on the market where you can do it in part of this 240 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:44,230 internal marketplace. 241 00:18:45,450 --> 00:18:48,730 When you say that is, which entity is? 242 00:18:49,090 --> 00:18:54,590 Program Metro has to buy up, all three entities elected to buy up. 243 00:18:54,590 --> 00:18:57,530 Okay, so the three enemies we're talking about is 244 00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:00,950 EGIC, METRO and the city. 245 00:19:01,130 --> 00:19:03,590 And you're saying that all of them together? 246 00:19:04,050 --> 00:19:04,490 No, no. 247 00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:06,730 Plus that over METRO is all the gauge. 248 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:07,550 It's 45. 249 00:19:08,010 --> 00:19:11,150 It's like 45, 301, but that was a preliminary number. 250 00:19:12,490 --> 00:19:16,330 And the final letters are going to be coming out in the next couple of weeks. 251 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:21,030 And then you'll have that and the EGIC will have that also, right? 252 00:19:21,030 --> 00:19:21,170 Yes. 253 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:26,150 So 254 00:19:28,930 --> 00:19:34,750 there are only 70,000 for a share, how are we giving more than one share, and you said 255 00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:36,170 one share is 70,000. 256 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:39,270 So how do you buy up more than 70,000? 257 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:46,590 You're rounding up to an equivalent share in the Provo River Water Users Association. 258 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:46,970 Yeah. 259 00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:52,370 So that equates to a decimal of a Provo Vent share. 260 00:19:52,370 --> 00:20:01,710 Yes, that's exactly right, yeah, it took a lot of the figure all this out and then the 261 00:20:01,710 --> 00:20:11,100 Crayon and then it was done with enough people willing to sell down and enough people 262 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:16,100 to sell up to miraculously kind of worked out. 263 00:20:16,220 --> 00:20:20,260 Yeah, what they did was they just went through the share of the biggest shareholders that 264 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:26,320 elected first, the parent and their decision, they went to the next one and then the numbers 265 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,840 worked out real close because I was fretting that for a while because I thought there 266 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,020 would be a whole bunch of them but it all, okay, most people decided to elect us, so yeah. 267 00:20:35,620 --> 00:20:39,080 And so you went to your whatever was remaining, you could buy up to that percentage of what 268 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:50,140 was left and then the small ones elected, they wanted to let go of some, that's all you've 269 00:20:50,140 --> 00:20:52,420 not allow fractionalization of their sugars. 270 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,000 That's one reason I want to put on the agenda, because we've got an expanse coming up. 271 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:07,300 It doesn't grow variegation is ready to pay their tank needle over being a part of this. 272 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,520 You have a good advice, it'd be better to pay out. 273 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:18,880 It's one time opportunity, and especially the storage component is, this is the first 274 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:27,780 times that ever happened. So there wasn't other opportunities of feeling you know letting go that 275 00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:32,460 would be could have maybe purchased more or that just didn't have. There were four shares 276 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:42,420 that went to the open market. The largest shareholders were able to acquire those and PGIC was 277 00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:48,240 actually third and we got one of them. There was, but the worm got two and then got two 278 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:55,380 and we got one in PGIC. Good. And the antennae along from the canal come was they wanted 279 00:21:55,380 --> 00:22:02,400 to keep the water local to the best way that they could. Great. The other reason I put 280 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:10,100 on the agenda is that those water shares that we've had in North Union served the South 281 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:16,600 part of Pleasant Grove with the abolishment of Northean and the city clean 282 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:23,760 airs in the Pearl River now or the pipe I should say going in the Alpine mostly 283 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:32,320 it's going to be all right so Metro Shares probably stayed in the cities yes you 284 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:41,020 usage. I don't know if they ever wind up using meal. Oh, for sure. The city. City used 285 00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:50,080 every drop from the natural flow and storage. Yeah, they already had a defined allocation 286 00:22:50,080 --> 00:23:00,060 in the PRA. Yeah. Anyway, the PGIC's 200 shares. We put it all down. We call it the cards 287 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:13,200 We're just happy to try to get that down to the end of the role where the last one's on the service and we've been frustrated for a year trying to get any kind of consistent full. 288 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:18,340 And then when they got the bid, it was between $20 and $30 million. 289 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:26,180 dollars, five-take gardener gifts. So that's just how our possibilities, it's 290 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:33,680 going to end in somehow they didn't have any caring rights in the Pro-Kanal and 291 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,840 how they've regarded. 292 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,420 I could go along detail but they were they they did their 293 00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:47,220 own acquisition of capacity in the canal. So they get perpetual capacity. 294 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:49,960 They have 295 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:55,500 about 10 CFS. They need a little more for the old one, but they've got the majority of them. 296 00:23:56,340 --> 00:24:02,140 So they spend about a couple million dollars to retrofit things, so they can service 297 00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:09,340 their secondary water system. I left us with 200 shares, transferred over to this 298 00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:19,120 promo bench, and my concern is the key to those water rights here in Pleasant Grove. So 299 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:24,980 since we just used it on the south part of Pleasant Grove and we aren't servicing them anymore. 300 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,380 It said you're on secondary water. We can't get you. Any water. I want to see 301 00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:36,760 it. Pleasant Grove gets to keep those water rights since Pleasant Grove City 302 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:47,640 Slash Metro owns about or controls about 71 percent of PGIC. It seems to me like 303 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,080 I guess it would be a good time maybe to transfer what we're doing, these transfer it over 304 00:24:53,080 --> 00:25:05,180 in the pleasant growth name and then make an arrangement to have PGA or PGA Metro, it's 305 00:25:05,180 --> 00:25:11,600 everybody they want to do it now, make a contract to purchase the rest of those shares, so they're 306 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,540 all kept in pleasant growth, technically we don't have any need for them. 307 00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:22,200 So you want to basically take the ownership from PGIC to the Metro? 308 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:25,460 Yeah, that's my sense. 309 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,140 So we keep the water rights here. 310 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:34,840 Are we talking so currently pleasant growth city only 71% approximately of PGIC? 311 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,720 Not only. We own or rent. 312 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,160 We own or rent. 313 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,020 We're above 50 on the ownership and then balance is renting. 314 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:52,580 okay so what would that in and I guess in overall will is the city in 315 00:25:52,580 --> 00:26:00,120 favor of trying to acquire those shares that are not currently owned yet we're 316 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:06,080 buying everything that comes across our desk we take this cashing low and it's 317 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,100 actually Metro that's buying the share and so we're buying everything we can 318 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:12,800 and every well-in-seller. 319 00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,780 Yeah, that's kind of an interesting transaction I have thought through. 320 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,100 So is that by your ownership in the shares already, 321 00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:26,380 do you already own 70% of those shares? 322 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,520 We do, right? 323 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:32,100 Well, they vote on 70% they own 56%. 324 00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:34,340 And whatever percentage is I'm saying, 325 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,140 of those normal union shares. 326 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:36,620 Right now. 327 00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:40,660 So in that transaction I assume those portions are already granted. 328 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:46,460 So yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, but the automatically come the rest are what gonna be discussed, right? 329 00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:50,740 Okay, yeah, that's that seems cleaner that way to just get the balance 330 00:26:51,980 --> 00:26:53,120 and get a 331 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Probably wait. What do you think and get the water right and then just transfer that water right direct? 332 00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:06,100 I think we're too late to have it happen with this. That's something that's got to go. That's a 333 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:09,600 two-way till it's in with them and then it would have been nice, but 334 00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:24,980 There are also some complexities, I mean, we're mixing entities here, but PGIC has commitments to deliver water through the PRA to shareholders and that's the only water that can get to them. 335 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,860 So we need to probably vet that a little bit. That's what I was going to ask. 336 00:27:29,860 --> 00:27:35,780 Just as the PGIC has a certain percentage in PG City, right, as I understand the PRA. 337 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:44,980 Well you have, yeah, you have the PGIC water that was North Union, has always conveyed 338 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,820 both in the PRA and in the Gardner ditch, Gardner ditch is gone. 339 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:59,040 But there are PGIC shareholders who still get water through the PRA that we can't, I don't 340 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,720 I don't know that we could just get rid of all the PRA water and then what would the 341 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:10,820 users do because that's used as supplement in the later season as well. 342 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,340 Okay. 343 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:20,660 And depending on this though, that PZIC already has 1100 shares in the PRA of storage, but 344 00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:24,540 the city already owns the 70% of that too. 345 00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:25,080 Sure. 346 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,560 So that's only 330 acre feet, 347 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:31,400 and 348 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:38,650 that you probably, I don't want to speak for the 349 00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:39,170 wrong entity. 350 00:28:39,670 --> 00:28:44,170 So you probably need to look at how that physically, yeah, the past he was, yeah, worked. 351 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:53,710 We need to run some numbers this year with the commitments of delivery through the PRA that 352 00:28:53,710 --> 00:29:04,330 Billy Joe is delivered because, in the past, PGIC has utilized the city storage to get 353 00:29:04,330 --> 00:29:07,110 those late seasons to help out the company. 354 00:29:08,410 --> 00:29:11,110 Certainly, I want to consider everything we need to. 355 00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:11,750 Yeah. 356 00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:16,950 My concern is, I just don't want to submit this opportunity because we've had some shareholders 357 00:29:17,950 --> 00:29:20,870 We just say, look, this is where the whole lot of money 358 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:25,050 is shared, translated into probable bathroom. 359 00:29:25,470 --> 00:29:29,130 I was just not seeing the value and not everything transferred 360 00:29:29,130 --> 00:29:30,270 over though, considered. 361 00:29:31,050 --> 00:29:35,130 Yeah, I think they say there's a temporary development for the 362 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:36,350 money because of the situation. 363 00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:40,890 So we have some shareholders to say we don't care about Pleasant 364 00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:41,490 Grove City. 365 00:29:42,670 --> 00:29:45,170 Let's just get the most forward and put it on the open market. 366 00:29:45,910 --> 00:29:52,710 guys with deep pockets right out check and buy all of it doesn't grow to be up 367 00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:59,850 forever I don't want to see that happen I happen to know there let's 368 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:23,860 Class A rights and storage. What I think the metro board ought to do is make a motion to authorize the board president to work a deal with the city to acquire those shares through a purchase agreement. 369 00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:30,800 And then once, once we are able to 370 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,700 Quantify what 371 00:30:35,390 --> 00:30:38,850 is doable with what commitments have been made 372 00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:41,850 Then we can finalize that 373 00:30:42,770 --> 00:30:46,110 My position is president TGIC 374 00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:51,750 Title care of contracts for a dollar a year from the next thousand years 375 00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:58,450 100,000 years. I just want those photographs kept here. I want to be very good as a city 376 00:30:58,450 --> 00:31:00,390 doesn't grow so it's 377 00:31:00,390 --> 00:31:02,790 nieces perform miracles 378 00:31:03,970 --> 00:31:09,050 Of course, because this completion is aware of the amount of American fork, I have to 379 00:31:09,050 --> 00:31:10,070 cut smarty out. 380 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:13,890 He's the one that got the ball rolling with the piping of the mail ditch. 381 00:31:16,750 --> 00:31:23,690 He just without the initial piping of the mail ditch, federal people with NRCS, some press, 382 00:31:24,890 --> 00:31:29,670 engineer representing NRCS, so it was the best use, federal money she'd ever seen. 383 00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:33,450 and I'd like to grab work for the future. 384 00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:36,590 I mean, there are the water savings 385 00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:38,390 when in terms of getting a different money. 386 00:31:39,070 --> 00:31:41,690 The needs just perform miracles. 387 00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:44,810 So we could press ahead with that $10 million 388 00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:49,370 where plus this piping of the mail, 389 00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:52,330 which section we just finished this year. 390 00:31:52,550 --> 00:31:56,050 And so she's done, I don't know how she's done with that. 391 00:31:56,670 --> 00:32:03,630 in hot water with the city administration, she's done it and so I want to work 392 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:10,490 in every way I can on the position I am so we don't lose this opportunity because 393 00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:15,770 like I say I could just see people to say her madder pleasant girl for one reason 394 00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:17,110 another just 395 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,240 say I don't care I want to put on the open market I want to 396 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,200 So let's get the bus. 397 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,820 I think comes almost $7.00 and let's put on the open market. 398 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,920 I wasn't broken figure out their own problem. 399 00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:36,060 I don't want to see that go that way. 400 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,180 I think that there's definitely 401 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:40,040 an end just kind of endilling with it in the past. 402 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,800 And you're in a gut shareholder's of PGIC. 403 00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:45,600 They're going to have to be taken into consideration 404 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,240 as far as how that's delivered. 405 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:50,680 They're going to be very interested and very vocal about that. 406 00:32:50,680 --> 00:33:15,780 So I think, like Neil's saying, I think what your recommendation is, is that we make a motion that allows Mark to move forward as a president of the PG Metro to coordinate with the city on a purchase agreement and that through that analyzing that there's obviously some coordination of PGIC that needs to be had through that purchase agreement and the shareholders there. 407 00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:18,660 at least we, you have the right to move forward 408 00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:21,600 in trying to analyze and figure out the best way forward. 409 00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:23,740 I would like to make that motion. 410 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:24,900 I think that's the right thing. 411 00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:26,080 Now is the right time. 412 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,860 I agree with it. 413 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800 I think it's the time that we try to get some things figured out 414 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,060 because it's the writings on the wall with that water 415 00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:34,880 and we're gonna figure out how to best use it now, 416 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,180 but it's only available in the outpight of the BRA. 417 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:40,820 So, yeah, motion, do we have a second to that? 418 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,020 I'll second that. 419 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:47,640 Second by Nail for the discussion in the rest of your input online. 420 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:53,080 Well, that's why I didn't make the motion because of my unique situation. 421 00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:56,600 But I think it's a great deal for Metro. How about you, Paul? 422 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,690 Shall we say interesting conversation to support it? 423 00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:07,170 Denise, you have some comments from the financial standpoint. 424 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:16,430 Okay, a motion in the second, further discussion, seeing those in favor of the motion, say aye. 425 00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:17,250 Aye. 426 00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:18,810 Aye. 427 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:20,070 Those opposed? 428 00:34:21,370 --> 00:34:22,770 Any abstentions? 429 00:34:23,010 --> 00:34:25,230 Motion carries unanimously. 430 00:34:26,090 --> 00:34:33,090 I'll proceed to have them or represent the city, which I think Marty, at least in my mind, 431 00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:37,190 and he was working with Neil to public works director. 432 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:38,030 For sure. 433 00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:39,650 Also a member of this. 434 00:34:39,670 --> 00:34:42,210 Or whoever he assigns to do that analysis 435 00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:43,030 and make recommendations, 436 00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:46,790 or I think it got some very qualified people 437 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:49,870 to be able to do that review and work with Billy Joe 438 00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:51,010 and try to figure things out. 439 00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:54,310 Yeah, I'd be excellent. 440 00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:56,170 I'll proceed ahead. 441 00:34:56,570 --> 00:35:00,890 I'm sure we'll contact Tina to make sure everything's done 442 00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:01,350 legally. 443 00:35:03,570 --> 00:35:12,150 I was done. Okay, that concludes the items on the agenda. We have a motion 444 00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:18,230 to adjourn. Isle move. A motion to adjourn by Brian. Do you want to second that, Paul? 445 00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:25,310 I will second that one. I'm just pulling past the high school, so I was going to come 446 00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:28,230 I wouldn't say hi in person, but I second it. 447 00:35:28,450 --> 00:35:28,930 Thank you. 448 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:30,930 When did you ever come in? 449 00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:34,890 I did want to recommend that we choose the next meetings 450 00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:36,010 in May and June. 451 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:39,730 At those meetings, we will adopt a tentative budget. 452 00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:41,630 And then at the meeting in June, 453 00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:43,230 we would approve a final budget. 454 00:35:43,590 --> 00:35:45,730 And that would require a public hearing notice. 455 00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:48,230 OK, would you like to go for your calendar, Zan? 456 00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:01,620 So they got to be, how many days apart again? 457 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,220 Don't have to be 30 days apart? 458 00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:18,090 We always do this around, we work around strawberry days, the one strawberry days is the week of the 15th, isn't it? 459 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:21,390 We can do the tentative budget though, anytime. 460 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:22,290 Correct. 461 00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:22,790 Yeah. 462 00:36:23,650 --> 00:36:26,490 So should we try and get a little bit better? 463 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:27,230 Sure. 464 00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:35,590 Yeah, we were within that date, so many of us really made. 465 00:36:37,290 --> 00:36:40,410 Yeah, how about, how about we do, yeah, early May and then late June? 466 00:36:41,110 --> 00:36:41,890 Yeah, okay. 467 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:46,860 First week of May is tough for me. 468 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,860 I'm going to say the 6th is not good, so the 13th works. 469 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,500 The 13th open for the 13th is not good. 470 00:36:56,500 --> 00:37:01,280 I think we'll see the things budget on the 5th and 8th. 471 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,220 Unless it's 5.30 or 6th, I can pick it up. 472 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:13,390 I hope in April 29th as well, 473 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:18,110 for me. 474 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:19,230 Oh, yeah. 475 00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:20,210 It's 476 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:23,670 20 minutes good for you, Mark. 477 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:25,210 For me? 478 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:28,310 I'll get out of 10 dogs that night. 479 00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:29,330 Yeah, I'm okay. 480 00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:30,590 So, yes. 481 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:32,650 Let's do it. 482 00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:34,350 I'm not sure that's in the middle of this video. 483 00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:36,050 Yeah, okay, 484 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,100 and then how about our June meeting? 485 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,140 June or late May. 486 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,540 Late May or, yeah. 487 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,340 Yeah, we could. 488 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,500 Yeah, we could. 489 00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:49,700 We could. 490 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,340 It's too late. 491 00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:53,580 You have to be what? 492 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,180 It's 29-30. 493 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:57,620 First grade or some graduation party? 494 00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:59,700 Oh, yeah, that's what I'm just looking at. 495 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:00,180 Mine's graduation. 496 00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:02,780 What about June 3rd? 497 00:38:04,290 --> 00:38:04,810 I'm open. 498 00:38:05,790 --> 00:38:06,510 That works for me. 499 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:07,190 That works for me. 500 00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:08,230 Wait. 501 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:20,300 I can make any of that work for you Paul yes okay just should we say June 3rd 502 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:27,480 then wonderful you've done it for us so we're working around yeah have them for big we do it early 503 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:34,800 yeah they might get your free passes strawberry you might have trouble parking though around here 504 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,240 That's what I just get a parking pass on where that's 505 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:49,900 what I came back and I'm like what is going on yeah you do not leave for lunch or we put 506 00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:55,180 cones out you know people will still park in your place okay okay 507 00:38:56,740 --> 00:39:04,080 It's a bright-made emotion to be ready to have a second Paul second up you can't 508 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:04,400 Please call. 509 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,560 All right. 510 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:06,940 Those in favor say aye. 511 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Aye. 512 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,740 Motion carries an out of place. 513 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,400 Aye.