[0:02] I want to go ahead and call the meeting
to order 601
[0:07] stand
[0:12] to the flag of the United States of
America and [snorts] to the republic for
[0:17] it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for
[0:23] all.
[0:26] » Mayor is on her way but she It's going
to be a few minutes late
[0:32] and before we do the consent agenda.
>> Oh, excuse me. Go ahead. Go ahead.
[0:41] » Gallagher
>> here.
[0:43] here.
>> Page
[0:45] » here
[0:53] » there's a correction on the
personnel agenda
[1:00] before
>> I I just I didn't want to waste the
[1:03] paper for for a small change. So on the
third line down where it says approve
[1:09] the hire of hiring volunteer firefighter
medic Alex Sheldrake.
[1:14] He he is not going to be a volunteer. He
is in fact a firefighter medic. So we
[1:19] need to eliminate the the word volunteer
and then after his name at $10 per call
[1:24] we need to eliminate that. So it should
read approval of hiring of firefire
[1:30] medic Alex Sheldrake pending background
check screen.
[1:36] I'll make a motion to approve the
consent agenda with the modifications.
[1:43] » Second.
[snorts]
[1:47] » Any discussion?
>> Call.
[1:52] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:54] » Yes.
>> Page.
[1:55] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:58] » Yes.
>> Yes. [clears throat]
[2:00] » Yes.
[2:03] » Okay. The mayor had comments under her
section for sewer rates or sewer funds.
[2:13] There was a letter in everybody's packet
talking about this.
[2:19] And in 2016,
the board had received from their sewer
[2:25] rate study that we start setting back
600 thou or $60,000 a year designated.
[2:32] It's still reserve funds out of the
sewer funds, but saving them
[2:37] specifically for sewer repair and
replacement funds. Currently today, we
[2:42] have all of the sewer reserve funds
lumped together.
[2:47] [clears throat] And she would like to
see
[2:50] $780,000
of the sewer reserve fund, specifically
[2:55] earmarked for the sewer repair and
replacement fund. And that would still
[3:00] leave,
I think, $600,000
[3:05] or $650,000
in the sewer reserve that could be for
[3:12] salaries or anything else that we would
need to take that out of.
[3:17] So, do do you want to wait and talk
about this a little more in the finance
[3:23] section, Patrick? Or
>> if if it's in the mayor's comments, I'm
[3:28] more than I'm more than happy to
entertain it here. Go ahead.
[3:31] » Especially since she's asking for for
for changes. Uh we've talked about this
[3:36] before. Um when we were talking about
the sewer rates and adjusting the rate
[3:41] for the next uh year, we [snorts]
we discussed the cost of replacing and
[3:47] repairing uh the sewer lines. And the
only the only difference that we are
[3:53] proposing now is to isolate those funds
in a separate account. just kind of take
[4:00] the total amount that we have saved up,
dedicate some of them directly to repair
[4:05] and replace and then uh do operational
um expenses out of the primary section.
[4:12] » Primary section of reserves.
>> Yeah.
[4:16] [clears throat]
>> So I'm supportive of it. There's a
[4:18] motion. I'm sorry.
>> I was say so this is just creating the
[4:22] new fund and taking the amount from the
CDs
[4:27] from the maturing CD and putting in
there and then $60,000 at the end of the
[4:32] year. Is that
>> right? So everything that's in there now
[4:35] would stay in there but it would be re
like essentially renamed. Well, it
[4:40] » a portion of it will be renamed and then
we will contribute to that annually so
[4:45] that that grows. And she did comment in
here that when this was done in 2016
[4:51] that $60,000 annually was in 2016,
not 2026.
[4:58] So, we may need to look at that and
adjust up down the road.
[5:04] And I I I feel like I'm sorry.
>> Let me just nail this down. Um when we
[5:12] receive the the output from the sewer
consultant, from the sewer rate
[5:16] consultant, that will help gauge what
our numbers will be going forward and
[5:20] make sure we're on track and we'll
adjust if necessary. But that's
[5:24] continuing on with what our last
recommendation was is is following what
[5:30] this is. We can use this same structure
dedicated RNR operational fund and just
[5:36] adjust the amounts and the and the
contribution amount to each one.
[5:41] » Kim, sorry.
>> Go ahead and I'll wrap up.
[5:44] » Okay. Um, so
I'm understanding correctly, um, these
[5:49] are, um, right now this money is in CDs
and the fund we'll be moving it to will
[5:56] not be in CDs or are we going to keep
this money in CDs or, you know, kind of
[6:00] broken up within CDs?
>> It will be in CDs. It's just designated
[6:04] that this
>> this bucket is for
[6:08] just earmarking it, but it's not
changing the way that we'll be
[6:12] » interest or anything like that. anything
like that.
[6:15] » Thank you.
>> So, we only have the Sorry, you were
[6:18] going to
>> Yeah, I just wanted to because the mayor
[6:21] stated we're dealing with 2016. So, if
we calculated to um current exchange, it
[6:27] would be $83,477.
[6:32] So that might need to be um a topic too
of changing the 60,000 to actually meet
[6:38] a 10year um yeah 10 years you know cost
[clears throat] adjustment justice and
[6:44] input.
>> I think we look at that when we get the
[6:48] full results back from what we're having
done currently. But to go off of what
[6:54] was recommended 10 years ago that the
board never followed through with this.
[6:59] This will catch us up to at least have
money earmarked because as you can see
[7:04] by the picture that Trump left on our
desk that there's a sewer line issue
[7:09] right now. It's not leaking or anything
but it potentially could be. So we just
[7:15] earmarking those monies.
>> So just so I understand correctly. So we
[7:20] have 719,000.
That's the total in the funded right
[7:26] now. Or is that not?
>> No, that's
[7:28] » that's just in the CDs.
>> She she text
[7:32] the dollar figure.
[7:36] » I think it'll leave about 600,000
because right now there's like 1.5
[7:42] million or something reserve.
>> Yeah. So, we're taking just over half of
[7:47] it and earmarking it for repair and
replacement. And
[7:52] » oh, so you're saying the 1.1 whatever
million is in CDs? It is. Okay. Only 720
[7:59] 780
>> 719,000
[8:04] » 780 designated for sewer repair.
>> Okay. So, she wants to designate that
[8:08] immediately.
>> I thought she was saying 720 and then
[8:12] 60,000 in December. Okay.
>> And also, I mean, during that
[8:16] discussion, I think we should also make
sure that we're padded for inflation
[8:21] moving forward. Um, and that um we can
earmark it and and modify it if need be,
[8:29] if there are any other emergencies that
may pop up.
[8:32] » Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And I know we'll
address it when we start looking at the
[8:37] budget for next year so that we can
appropriately
[8:40] move the correct amount.
If I could just share a couple some
[8:46] numbers with you. In 15 years, we've
spent u around 80,000
[8:53] on repairs.
Um
[8:58] Ron and I are
we're calculating
[9:02] if you were to replace the whole sewer
system in the city,
[9:08] you'd be talking about like 16 to 20
billion.
[9:12] » Um You have to keep in mind with that
what drives the cost drastically on that
[9:17] is a number of our sewers are
underpavement and under sidewalk.
[9:23] [cough and clears throat] So you're not
just digging in and replacing those
[9:26] straight sewer pipe, you're replacing
concrete and asphalt. Uh and then we
[9:31] have a number of our sewer [snorts] line
systems that are
[9:38] off road and
very awkward to get at in the woods on
[9:43] the street. [clears throat]
So you got that comes.
[9:51] So, I would entertain a motion
if somebody wanted to make it to make
[9:57] this
change in the reserves.
[10:02] » Yeah. I move that we designate uh
780,000
[10:07] to a dedicated sewer repair replacement
fund
[10:13] as they become due in the the end.
>> Second.
[10:20] Any further discussion?
[10:26] » Call roll.
>> Gallagher.
[10:27] » Yes.
>> Caligan.
[10:28] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[10:30] » Paige,
>> yes.
[10:31] » Scarboard,
>> yes.
[10:32] » Showers,
>> yes.
[10:34] » Olson,
>> yes.
[10:35] » Freeman,
>> yes.
[10:37] » Very good. Thank you. And no city
attorney here.
[10:43] Madam Mayor, you ready to take the
chair?
[10:46] » I'm ready. If you're at a place where we
can
[10:49] » Yep. We're getting ready to start public
comments. So,
[11:00] [laughter]
>> thank you very much. Yeah.
[11:18] All right.
[11:24] Thank you.
All right.
[11:27] Uh, Pleasant Valley Firefighters
Association Ground Zero Display.
[11:34] Oh, good. I sound so official [laughter]
just to trick us.
[11:39] » Right. Okay. So, as you guys are aware,
um, we have our 911 memorial um, in
[11:44] place now. We added a piece two years
ago, I think it was. I lost track of
[11:48] time. I apologize. Um, we currently
have, and I was going to print these
[11:53] off, it didn't happen. Sorry. So, I have
them in a picture. I'll show you. We
[11:57] currently have um a
couple of large twisted pieces of steel
[12:04] left that we've sat as an association
and discuss on how can we get these out
[12:09] front and display them versus sitting up
in our mezzanine. So I'll show you guys
[12:13] this photo if you want to look at that
pass around and I'll show you the area
[12:17] where we're thinking and what we want to
do. As you'll see, they are large,
[12:22] lengthy, uh, twisted rebar, angle iron.
Um, and it mainly why they didn't go
[12:28] inside the towers is they wouldn't fit
safely or sizewise. So, um, the
[12:34] association has gotten together and
we've come up with the idea of outside
[12:37] of chief's um, window on the front
entrance way. So, the sidewalk does this
[12:43] and then we have the pavers that leads
to the memorial. There's some bushes
[12:47] like this and then there's a big empty
space. And I was just talking to Chris.
[12:51] He's going to verify that it would be
okay to do what we want to do there. Um
[12:55] to uh pour a concrete pad approximately
this space is right where I took that
[13:02] picture. Um in the black mulch about 4T
by six foot and lightly cover it with
[13:09] some mulch so you don't really see the
concrete pad like we did with the touch
[13:12] and feel piece of history. And then
we've got a couple of kings to work on
[13:16] how we're going to actually anchor it to
the concrete versus whether we use I've
[13:20] looked at some things like they use for
pool decks and where they'll screw in an
[13:23] anchor and use a special tool. Um we
really haven't had an issue with anybody
[13:28] messing with the memorial and any of the
metal. So I'm not too concerned with it,
[13:31] but we will try to take um matters to
make sure they're not sticky fingers to
[13:36] any means. But we like to place that
metal like it's shown on a pad of
[13:41] concrete in this space right outside of
Chief's window um anchored to the ground
[13:46] with a plaque similar to the one that is
on the I-beam that you can touch out
[13:51] front that just has 343 represents just
the firefighters side of things as the
[13:56] entrance to our uh station. Um that is
what we've come up with. I I know we've
[14:02] kind of had a rolling, you know, kind of
work with it project. this will be the
[14:05] last little bit that needs to be on
display. Um, and we're just kind of
[14:09] looking for your input, thoughts, um,
care, don't care. Um, but we just feel
[14:15] bad that it's still sitting upstairs now
10 years. I mean, we've got a lot out
[14:19] there, but you know, upstairs not being
on display for us to remember that. And
[14:24] our goal is to hopefully get this done
before this year's memorial so it's on
[14:28] display whether we have the plaque or
not, but to have the metal at least
[14:32] mounted out into the into the the U
landscaping there. Um, pending whether
[14:37] when Chris reviews there's nothing
there. We don't think there is, but
[14:40] we'll double check before we go because
we're not going to put anything but like
[14:44] a 4 inch or a three and a half inch pad.
Um, that's 4 foot by six foot. Just big
[14:49] enough so the steel sits on it. And
then, like I said, we'll recover it with
[14:53] the mulch. So, it'll look just like the
landscaping except the metal will be
[14:56] there with a sign. So,
>> I do have a question. Are these um still
[15:00] pieces associated with the 911?
>> Yes, they're actual steel, structural
[15:05] steel that was given to us by the port
authority back in like 201
[15:11] 15 when uh the Robert Stinson, the old
chief had uh applied for it that him and
[15:17] his son drove down. Um, so that's why
we're wanting to make sure we
[15:21] incorporate it according to the
agreement that was made with the Port
[15:24] Authority and um, Chief
Stson at the time. So, but they're so
[15:30] twisted and hard up. We're like, man,
what can we do with them? And it's going
[15:35] to be kind of hard to put them in like
different places and so we're just this
[15:38] is what we come up with. We've kind of
been pondering it over the year or so.
[15:42] Um Chris and I went up and twisted and
turned and flipped the metal and kind of
[15:46] like our goal is to make it look like a
nine. There's a piece of steel and
[15:50] another one that when they're set just
right, it looks like a nine. So, um just
[15:54] kind of some sort of resemblance because
it's it's how it came down. It's how it
[15:58] was picked out of the the wreckage from
that day. So, um that's what we'd like
[16:04] to do that what we were hoping. I don't
know if we need a motion or an okay or
[16:08] what. Um last time we started the
project we came to the board and I mean
[16:12] [clears throat] it was a lot bigger
project and we did that but um we wanted
[16:15] to make sure everybody's city was
included in it since it's on the fire
[16:19] department property and I mean we act
like we run this place but yeah
[16:23] [laughter]
um so if you guys have any input
[16:26] questions I know the next um association
meeting is September
[16:32] whatever the first two Tuesday of next I
think. Yeah, September 1st. Um, if we
[16:37] have approval from you guys, um, we we
may just go ahead and start on getting
[16:41] the concrete poured this weekend
because, like I said, we want to try to
[16:44] get it in before the 11th, which is all
things in fashion with this whole
[16:48] project since we started is like few
weeks or days before the moral. It's in
[16:52] and done. Looks beautiful.
>> Yeah.
[16:54] » So, um, that's kind of just how it's
went. Um but uh if not then it'll be put
[16:59] in after the 11th because we don't want
to stir up a whole bunch of mess before
[17:03] the the 11th. So
>> okay. Um you do you do need a motion
[17:09] since it's on city property.
So um
[17:15] I'd entertain a motion. I'll make a
motion that the city allow the fire
[17:21] department
>> association
[17:22] » the fire association
>> association
[17:25] » along with our firefighters
[clears throat] to continue with this
[17:29] memorial to complete using the material
we were given.
[17:33] » Okay.
[17:36] » [laughter]
[17:39] » Is there any other discussion questions
about this?
[17:46] » Dean.
>> Yeah, it'll be a plaque. That'll be the
[17:50] black with the steel that says just 343.
As simple as that. Nothing more
[17:55] elaborate, but to remember as you enter
the the facility, you know, this the
[17:59] medalist remind us every day of how
things changed and what happened on that
[18:03] day. So, it'll just be a 343 plaque that
will be placed. So,
[18:08] » um, just as a question, I I'm not sure I
don't I don't know if I was here when
[18:15] this project was Yeah. kind of started.
>> I think you live in the city. I don't
[18:18] think you it was long.
>> Um, but is there anything else that they
[18:23] will need from the board as far as like
budget or anything like that? Um when we
[18:29] first started, even prior to my
involvement, the the association had um
[18:34] fundraised t-shirts, coins, we still
sell coins to support the maintenance
[18:38] and routine use, you know, or not use,
but painting and you know, mulch, you
[18:44] know, when we can't beg it out of Chris,
[laughter]
[18:47] but um to maintain it. Um we have the
funds currently to buy the couple bags
[18:53] of concrete. I was going to talk to
Chris about maybe borrowing some of the
[18:56] concrete stakes because I've got lumber.
Um, we've been really blessed the whole
[19:00] project where the community's kind of
heard about it. The firefighters, the
[19:04] chiefs have heard about it. Matter of
fact, the day we poured the new pad for
[19:08] the sign that's on the corner because
the poles busted over a really, really
[19:12] strong winter. It didn't move a spring
summer day, it just kind of fell over.
[19:16] We poured a new concrete pad. I had two
chiefs out there helping me dig it up.
[19:19] And then I had to go to work and two of
Chris's guys actually happened to be
[19:23] able to meet Northwind because they're
like, "Hey, when we get a little extra
[19:26] concrete, we'll just come up and dump
it." And was it Randy or it was the
[19:30] older guy that used to work for you,
>> right?
[19:33] » Rodney and his partner actually went up
and finished the concrete because I
[19:36] couldn't get back when the concrete was
coming. So, like, it's been a really
[19:39] group effort from everybody um to do it.
So, we like we said, we're we're
[19:44] constantly just trying to make sure we
put our best efforts for that. So
[19:48] » awesome.
>> Um we actually I don't know if Chief's
[19:51] going to talk about it, but last week um
Chief Kudson, myself, um Chris Grant and
[19:56] the duty crew was interviewed by
uh another news station,
[20:01] » PBS channel 19. Yeah, PBS um a newspaper
and he's going to be doing an article um
[20:06] on it um that he's been doing around
because he went to the
[20:10] uh memorial that they had down at
Liberty uh memorial with a big traveling
[20:16] beam that they had on display where KCFD
and a lot of others got together two
[20:21] weeks ago I think it was and so someone
had mentioned hey have you seen Pleasant
[20:24] Valley's memorial and and so he
contacted got information we got
[20:29] together and sit down so um so we're
just looking continue that that J
[20:33] because one of his biggest questions is
to us is do we feel that society and
[20:38] generations are slowly forgetting about
911 and yeah it is so this is kind of
[20:43] our push to continue to uh integrate
this I don't know if we'll get any
[20:47] scouts involved in this little project
that we have I don't know what Chris
[20:51] Grant has up his sleeve some days he
like like hey by the way I'm like okay
[20:55] cool but at this point this will just be
something that we'll try to get done
[20:59] just because of the time frame So, but
it'll get the rest of that steel um put
[21:04] put out on display. So,
>> okay. Any other questions?
[21:10] » All right. Call the RO.
>> Caligan,
[21:12] » yes.
>> Caligan,
[21:13] » yes.
>> Yes.
[21:14] » Paige,
>> yes.
[21:15] » Scar,
>> yes.
[21:17] » Showers,
>> yes.
[21:18] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[21:21] » Okay.
[21:25] » [snorts]
[21:27] » Any other public comments that I don't
have in front of me?
[21:34] » Alderman comments.
[21:39] Old business.
[21:43] » Okay. Administration.
U had had a written report. The only two
[21:48] items um that may require discussion are
also on the agenda later as ordinances
[21:57] the uh sewer rate study and the new
copier agreement. So if anybody has
[22:03] questions about that they can ask them
now or when they come forward as
[22:07] ordinances.
[22:12] » What about the property tax hearing? Is
that scheduled?
[22:16] » It's not scheduled because I don't have
I don't have the I don't have the
[22:20] information. I mean, we can we can
schedule it, but I I hesitate to
[22:25] schedule it until I have the
information.
[22:28] » Well, I just I don't want to get in the
jam, not have enough time to get it
[22:32] properly posted before the hearing.
>> Lots of times we have to have a special
[22:37] election or a special council meeting in
order to get this accomplished. So,
[22:43] » okay. So, long as it stays on.
>> Oh, yes.
[22:47] So the information that we're waiting on
is in that sentence that says the notice
[22:52] for the hearing must include the
assessed valuation by category of real
[22:56] personal and other tangible property,
the amount of revenue required to be
[23:00] provided from the property taxes set
forth in the annual budget. Tax rates
[23:04] proposed to be set for the various
purposes of taxation. The increase in
[23:07] tax revenue due to an increase in
assessed value as a result of new
[23:11] construction and improvement and the
increase both in dollar value and
[23:14] percentage. That's that block that was a
lot longer sentence than I thought it
[23:18] was going to be. Start with [laughter]
that that block is what we're awaiting
[23:22] information on. Correct.
>> Who are we waiting that on that
[23:26] information from? The county. Do they
have any timetable to give it to us or
[23:32] just sometime before September 1st?
>> They they always give it in, but it is
[23:38] almost always in my experience is almost
always estimates a special. So, so what
[23:44] you're saying is be prepared for a lastm
minute
[23:48] » special board meeting before September
1st.
[23:51] » Okay.
[23:54] » It's not, you know, it's not. [snorts]
[laughter]
[23:59] » That's the only question I have. Thank
you.
[24:01] » Sorry.
Okay,
[24:06] that's it.
>> That was simple question.
[24:08] » Fire department. Simple.
>> Simple. Hey, [laughter]
[24:15] » you make up then.
>> So, yeah, I did provide a
[24:21] report for this uh meeting. Um, you have
questions on that.
[24:30] If not, uh, I'm sure you're probably
aware we did have a houseire on Bren
[24:36] Lane, uh, over the weekend. Um I will
provide a report for that uh uh when all
[24:47] of it when it's all completed and so
either next meeting or the meeting after
[24:51] when I do my board report that that uh
information will be available for you on
[24:57] that.
>> Was that just contained to that one
[25:00] house?
>> Yes.
[25:01] » Okay. But it was it was it was it was
significant. Didn't get into the the
[25:08] attic.
If you driven by there, you know, you
[25:12] know,
there's there's a hole in the roof. So,
[25:18] I mean, it was definitely significant
damage. I'm sure the house might be
[25:25] passed today and they're trying to get
everything out in the yard out way.
[25:33] Well, and and you know the smoke ruins
everything. So,
[25:38] » how many um police department or fire
departments responded to that?
[25:43] » So, we had Clay on the initial. We also
had Kansas City. Um,
[25:51] and
>> I I was actually I was out of town, so I
[25:55] did not make it, but
it was just
[26:00] » Were there people inside at that point?
>> The homeowner was attempting to
[26:06] extinguish it with a garden hose.
>> Oh, okay.
[26:08] » So, uh, again, I'll I'll have everything
uh
[26:12] » All right. [clears throat]
spelled out for you.
[26:16] Yeah. So, there was there was an issue
with uh with ammunition in in the
[26:21] residence. So, it was it was a
interesting fire.
[26:29] » No injuries.
No injuries that
[26:39] » great. Thank you.
>> Oh, I do have one. So, uh uh not at 911.
[26:46] So, we are planning on doing a ceremony
on that day. So, that's Friday morning.
[26:52] Uh
I'm going to say 9:00 is our start time.
[26:57] I think that's what we did last year,
but I'll I'll send something out. Uh I
[27:02] would uh invite the uh board to attend.
Um it's a it's a short uh it's a short
[27:10] uh ceremony. We'll retire that flag
that's flown over the memorial for the
[27:16] year and and
put up new.
[27:21] » Yes,
[27:27] » thank you.
[27:32] » Jennifer, is it sorry is it your feeling
that we will have um news media there?
[27:39] there's a strong possibility, especially
being the 25th anniversary. Um, I can't
[27:45] think of a year we haven't had some sort
of news coverage um come in and and do
[27:50] some speed uh pieces with us. So,
>> so it's probably a good thing to
[27:55] encourage
uh residents to come up as well.
[27:59] » Yeah,
>> we'll we will make that happen.
[28:02] » I will I will put it in the flyer.
>> Okay. and we'll probably ask this um
[28:07] civic center to put it on the board. So
>> that'll be fun.
[28:11] » And just to clarify the time, I think
since the last bell ring event is at
[28:16] 9:27
central time, I think we are starting at
[28:20] 9:30.
[28:24] » All right,
Jared, you're next.
[28:28] » Okay,
[28:31] » your turn.
[28:34] uh provided you with the car report in
your packet and pretty busy month.
[28:41] Any questions on that?
Okay. Uh you saw that in finance we got
[28:49] some grant reimbursement coming. I was
also just notified that we received the
[28:53] 2027
MODOT grant. uh that will be $7,000 for
[29:00] reimbursement for officer over time to
enforce traffic. So that's another
[29:05] overtime possibility for officer to get.
Um and then
[29:13] um I know flock was brought up at the
last meeting.
[29:18] Um, so I was going to provide some
information for you. Uh, but a lot of it
[29:23] is in the packet, including our um, our
policy, some um, features that we do or
[29:31] don't have
[29:35] and also the Flock contract that we
signed and the terms and conditions. a
[29:41] couple of
stuff from Flock website that kind of
[29:47] explain
um what Flock system does, their
[29:51] operating system, retention periods. Um
but I'll also hit on it um a little bit
[29:56] myself. Um,
first I think there's
[30:03] society as a whole has come to read
something on the internet and take it as
[30:11] truth in the gospel and and run with it
without ever scrutinizing it or seeing
[30:18] if there's any truth to it whatsoever.
And I think a lot of this where it's
[30:22] coming from um is people that don't know
the truth or what actually flock does.
[30:28] » [clears throat]
>> Um, they don't use facial recognition.
[30:32] They don't have Bluetooth. They're not
listening in our conversations. They
[30:37] don't take live stream video. We can't
log in there and because a lot of them
[30:41] um are put near like daycare centers or
parks or whatever. We can't log in there
[30:47] and see a live screen shot and watch the
kids play. Um,
[30:52] » sorry. I apologize right there.
>> My intention is not to not to pause you
[30:57] over time, but that that's a it's a key
sentence there.
[31:00] » Um the the research that's been done
show that the official accessing methods
[31:08] do not allow for live streaming.
However, there are instances where those
[31:13] live streams can be obtained through
security vulnerabilities that have not
[31:18] been patched within the system. you
talking from law enforcement agencies or
[31:22] not from from third parties.
>> Okay. So they hack into the system.
[31:25] » Yes. Okay. Yes.
>> Yeah. There there's been data breaches.
[31:27] Um any technology can have a data
breach. Um so they obviously need to
[31:33] improve their software. So it's harder
to do that. Um it's the same way with
[31:38] with the argument that officers are
going to abuse the system. That can
[31:42] happen. I can go downstairs and abuse
the systems we have right now. It
[31:45] doesn't mean I'm going to do it. Um, and
we need to hold those people accountable
[31:50] that do that. Um, and and I think we
will. Um, [clears throat] but it's not
[31:56] going to happen. So,
uh, another big one is is they're
[32:01] selling our data to big surveillance
companies. Um, Flock says it's not. I
[32:07] have no proof that says that they are.
Um,
[32:12] we own our own data. It's stored on
their servers. it gets deleted after 30
[32:16] days. Um, Flock actually just came out
with a new security deal where they're
[32:20] going to recommend [clears throat] and
set it to 7 days. We will go along with
[32:24] that. We're going to change ours to 7
days. Um, right now we share with 143
[32:31] agencies in the state of Missouri. Um,
we have restricted uh searches into our
[32:36] data um to agencies in the state of
Missouri. So, nobody from outside the
[32:41] state can search our data. Um,
[32:47] to access the system, you have to have
dual authentication. You log in, it
[32:51] sends a a thing to my phone where I have
to prove it's me and put in a code. I
[32:55] log in and then it has a notice of to
yourself that you're accessing possible
[33:02] CJS information and you're to use it
appropriately per policy by law. Um,
[33:10] so recently in the LA since March,
um, we've used it to identify a shooting
[33:16] suspect. Um, stolen auto that actually
Clay Como picked up and pursued it and
[33:22] and arrested a driver. Um, a hit and run
accident. um we identified the suspect
[33:28] two weekends ago and then we had a
felony domestic assault with the ramming
[33:34] of the vehicle and that's how we caught
it and figured out who it was and it
[33:38] showed really great evidence um to help
prosecute him with two felonies. Um so
[33:44] it is good that it is a tool that lets
us develop leads with very limited
[33:50] information leads that we wouldn't have
unless we had the lock system. It's a
[33:56] tool on our duty belt that we can wear
and use um
[34:01] legally. Um
and I don't believe it is a violation of
[34:07] the Fourth Amendment. You're driving on
a public roadway. The license plate
[34:12] that's on your car belongs to the state
of Missouri, not you. I don't know if
[34:15] you knew that or not. The driver's
license that you carry belongs to the
[34:18] state of Missouri. Okay? That's why we
can take those things from you when you
[34:22] violate it all. when you when you get a
PWI and you don't want to blow in the
[34:26] breath for us, we take your license and
send it back to the state of Missouri.
[34:31] So, I think there's a lot of stuff going
around that is just
[34:36] being blown away out of proportion the
system. Is there a possibility that this
[34:41] could be misused and them doing
something with our our data that we
[34:45] don't know about? Of course. But if if
they do that and it gets leaked, this
[34:50] business has done it and it will get
leaked at some point as they're doing
[34:54] it. So I don't I don't see a reason, if
you were even thinking about it, to um
[35:00] get rid of this contract or get rid of
the license plate readers. I think it's
[35:04] a great tool. Um that's obviously going
to be your decision.
[35:09] You're the board. Um I'm not for that
and I'll stand by it until I find out
[35:14] otherwise.
Um, how do you have how many instances
[35:18] we have used the license plate?
>> Yeah. Uh, so like I said, our data gets
[35:23] deleted after 30 days. So I did a 30-day
search.
[35:27] I think we used it we searched 32 times.
No, 52 times
[35:34] » in a month.
>> In a month. And I believe it was 34 of
[35:38] those searches were for three different
cases. So bulk of them were just for
[35:41] those three cases. we switched up how we
searched the vehicle multiple times and
[35:46] and so most of them was for three days
so we don't use it very often. Um now
[35:52] ours before we switched it to just the
state of Missouri our network because
[35:57] they're all intertwined. So let's say
sheriff's office out of Texas wants
[36:02] access to our stuff we deny or accept
them. So once they do a search and they
[36:07] search all of their agencies they've
shared data with it hits on ours. So,
[36:12] they're not specifically looking at
ours. It's just searching the network
[36:15] that they're tied in with. Um, but it
was used quite a bit and I don't have
[36:19] that number in front of me. If I believe
it's 10 or somewhere, but it it was a
[36:22] lot. I'm talking like 500,000.
Um, but that's nationwide. And you got
[36:29] to think there's 570,000
law enforcement officers in this
[36:34] country. So, that's less than one per
officer per month.
[36:40] Where are our cameras at again? [snorts]
>> Well, we still don't have one up. That's
[36:44] another thing. Um, so Flock is um not
going to charge us this year and I
[36:49] haven't seen a bill for this year, but
um there's one going at 69 highway by
[36:55] Rava.
There's one at North Church and 76
[37:00] Street. There's one right in front of
Quick Trip. And there's one on close
[37:07] together. Is that five?
[37:12] » We will have five. Right now we have
four.
[37:15] » And what's happening with the the fifth
one? We don't have the equipment yet.
[37:21] » Well, that was the longest piece. And
now MDOT has changed the way they've
[37:26] done these request. So a guy's called me
like two or three different times says
[37:31] he's coming out to do the inspection
because you got to market and do all
[37:34] that stuff and I never hear back from
him. It's never been in place. So
[37:40] » from an HR standpoint does everybody who
has access to flock in your department
[37:46] and any other department is there a
policy as far as the ramifications for
[37:51] misuse? Um there is when you sign a C
just um
[37:58] notification I guess or or usage
agreement I guess with C just when you
[38:03] when you get your mules access um you
you do sign something that I mean if
[38:07] it's a felony you can get thrown in
jail.
[38:10] » So that covers any
>> any access to this information. We also
[38:16] have a a a alpr policy. I don't think it
necessarily states in there
[38:24] um what could happen.
[38:35] » You should have put tabs on yourself. I
know
[38:43] kind of ALPR information gathered and
retained by this department may be used
[38:46] and shared with prosecutors or other
others only as per law.
[38:54] Uh one thing our policy needs to be
buffed out and Mr. Galler pointed this
[38:59] out that um all it says in our audit
about audits says our policy about
[39:07] audits uh is says they should be
conducted on a regular basis.
[39:12] » That probably beefed up a little bit. Um
I'll probably change that to be once a
[39:17] month. So first a month I'll just run an
audit and see what activity we have on
[39:22] there.
near the gap in
[39:28] um all of our officers do have access to
this. Um and our dispatch supervisor,
[39:34] the other dispatchers do not.
So on that on that vein, I I would like
[39:42] to see a [snorts] standardized format
that we follow whereby we look
[39:48] pulling an audit report off the system,
I don't think goes far enough.
[39:54] tying those individual queries to a
case, making sure that they're relevant
[39:59] to the case that they're actually tied
to that case, timely, relevant. um I
[40:05] think is is is important because
use of the system can be
[40:13] I'm not gonna say fudged but if it asks
for a case number you can put a case
[40:18] number in but then determining whether
that query was relevant I think is
[40:21] really important to to help ensure that
the queries are actually relevant to
[40:25] that case and so having I think your
policy says the the patrol captain uh
[40:30] performing this um using a standardized
form whereby they they look through
[40:36] through the autolog determining who,
what, where, when, and why the the big
[40:42] questions and then ensuring that they
are relevant to each individual case.
[40:47] You said it was three cases for the last
52 or 30 days, 52 searches. Um, it
[40:54] shouldn't be that that difficult. I do
appreciate that you're they're going to
[41:00] recommend doing it on on a monthly
basis. That's a good cadence. Um, and
[41:04] then it's just the end of that audit is
kind of a verification of yes, our use
[41:09] of the block system, our officer's use
of the system has been consistent with
[41:14] policies, it has been relevant to cases,
stuff like that. Is that is that the is
[41:19] that your goal for that audit?
>> I mean, it's it sounds very intensive to
[41:25] me. Um,
all this is doing is taking a picture of
[41:30] a car and a license plate. It's not
taking a picture of the person. It's not
[41:34] searching the person. The system does
nothing besides take a picture until we
[41:38] tell it to do something. And then all it
does is pull up that picture and give a
[41:43] date and time and location. That's all
it does. It's not taking a picture and
[41:49] tracking where you're going out to eat
or where you're going to church or
[41:53] anything like that. It takes a picture
of your car on public road. So, I mean,
[41:59] I guess we can if that's what your
request is. Um, but to me, it seems very
[42:05] I don't want to say waste of time
because like you said, I mean, it can be
[42:09] misused
>> and and it has been like there there
[42:13] there's been over what 20 cases of law
enforcement officers around the nation
[42:19] who have used the search function in
nonrelevant non-law enforcement. It
[42:24] hasn't been
>> I don't know.
[42:28] » I guarantee you there's probably two or
three times that have been arrested for
[42:32] whatever reason doing other things on
our systems that they weren't supposed
[42:36] to in the same amount of time, but
you're not hearing about why.
[42:41] But why why this all of a sudden?
>> All I'm saying is that any system that
[42:47] can that contain CGI just like mules
mules is very regulated. This also needs
[42:52] to be regulated. And I think that's the
level of an audit that we do require of
[42:58] a system that that we use. Not that it
takes our pictures. I don't care about
[43:03] my data. I care about how others could
use that data to paint a picture of a
[43:09] person's habits of a person's
destinations of their their habits. It's
[43:15] it's how the system is used on people
that not how flock use it. That's a
[43:22] that's a bigger question.
We're not going to figure out the answer
[43:26] as you know put on Pleasant Valley.
Don't don't take don't take those words
[43:30] wrong. We're not Kansas City. We we're
we're a fairly small department with
[43:34] five cameras. And I want to make sure
that our officers are using the tools in
[43:37] the right way. We're not teasing
people's faces.
[43:41] We are using the ALPRs in a way that is
consistent with our policies. And an
[43:46] audit, I think, is really important to
make sure that that commitment is being
[43:50] upheld. It might take some time. It
takes some effort. But tying queries to
[43:56] active cases or closed cases, I think is
really important.
[44:01] » What available fields are there in the
software for inputs, notes, that sort of
[44:06] thing. If there's anything I don't
>> say anything about car uh color um make
[44:12] model license plate um if there's any I
think there's an open one you could type
[44:18] in like it has a can't say royal sticker
in the back or the bottom right window
[44:25] that's that's you put it out anything
you want it's like as detailed as the
[44:29] color is. So putting something pretty
simple like this is the case and this is
[44:35] why I'm looking at this specific one
would that kind of
[44:41] » like a journal entry. So, so the case
numbers are there. That's not the
[44:45] question.
>> A little bit more,
[44:46] » but it's it's it's on a on a regular
basis. Once once you have the
[44:51] operational distance from the case,
you're you're not stopping to do an
[44:55] audit in the middle of
of a of a police chase.
[45:01] Within the month, you're you're going
back to that case, hit and run. Hey, we
[45:07] we we got out. We talked to the guys who
were involved. said it was a 2005 red
[45:12] cander with license plate that ends in
XYZ.
[45:15] » So it's it's the Y portion of who, what,
where, when, and why.
[45:20] » Yeah. And and having a a supervisory
level person go to that case and say,
[45:27] "Yes, this query for a red Camry is
relevant. Yes, this query for the ending
[45:33] of a license plate was relevant to it
because that person on scene said this."
[45:38] tying all of those queries back to the
relevance and not surreptitiously
[45:42] throwing in, oh, I'm going to call this
a search off of this case number, but
[45:47] it's actually for 2002 Dodge Caravan
that my wife's driving. You get what I'm
[45:52] saying?
>> Okay. I don't want Pleasant Valley to I
[45:56] It's a tool. It can be used with
responsibility. I don't want it to be on
[46:01] yet another list of law enforcement
officers misusing it.
[46:05] » So, Chief, I have several questions. one
with this um when you pull the
[46:10] information
um does it automatically like give you
[46:14] like a title and you can add your
comments or something like that or like
[46:18] you just said
>> when you do the search
[46:20] » yeah when you do the search can you do
what I'm thinking I'm thinking you could
[46:24] have a field so to not make additional
work that's what I hear you don't want
[46:30] the extra work when you're trying to
protect the city but if there's some way
[46:35] I don't know if can do it just add like
officer this time x y and z and then you
[46:40] could type it in right then just an
idea. Um and then I had a question about
[46:46] um your email that was sent from flock
on August 13, 2026. You mentioned um
[46:53] uh the Okay. Today we are updating our
recommendation and default to a 7-day
[46:58] retention and introducing evidence mode.
And since um your your goal and what I
[47:04] heard and let me know if I've I've
understood what you're what you're going
[47:09] to do, you're going to do an audit once
a month. But I guess my question if it's
[47:14] only a 7-day retention, how would you do
an audit once a month? I I just want to
[47:19] make sure I understood.
>> Yeah. I guess yeah, if we left it to 30
[47:24] days, I mean, you would have to do it
every week if you would do seven days.
[47:27] » Yeah. um that evidence dealer talking
about from what I understand and I
[47:31] haven't seen it yet is [clears throat]
it's kind of like what you do with our
[47:34] body cameras or or incar cameras you can
lock it so when a retention period comes
[47:39] out it doesn't delete it so like a DWI
that we want to say for you know five
[47:43] years it doesn't ever delete until that
fiveyear retention is um a normal
[47:49] warning traffic stop deletes every every
30 days
[47:52] » so is there any way you could confirm
that how that works so that when the
[47:58] simple mention implementation
of the 7-day retention, you have that
[48:03] option that you mentioned.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're not going to
[48:05] change it to seven until we are positive
and everything in mind
[48:10] » and that's what we want to do, but
that's that's what I'm looking to go to.
[48:16] » Speaking of data retention, so the the
the data retention is not for audit
[48:21] data. It's not it's not a log data.
We're not they're not going to delete
[48:25] queries log data after 7 days, but the
image of the vehicle, the the detection
[48:30] of the vehicle, if it's not flagged in a
case or not downloaded to our server, it
[48:36] would expire after 7 days. But if a
search was conducted on that vehicle or
[48:41] on that VIN or not a VIN, but on that
license plate,
[48:45] then the record of it lives way longer
than the seven days.
[48:49] » That's not what I've found out.
>> That's where When I can only do my
[48:53] search
>> this search.
[48:55] » When I can only do my search for what
was searched
[48:59] » for 30 days.
>> That's scary. Okay. Yeah. Let's let's do
[49:02] some research.
>> Yeah. We need to do some research and so
[49:05] that as the chief and and leader of the
police department that we know and and
[49:11] we know how to support you, how to move
forward. I think that'd be really good
[49:16] to know what what's going on with that.
>> Because Kansas City is much larger than
[49:22] us, would they not have
more access to
[49:29] information regarding all of this?
>> I don't think so. as far as like the
[49:35] retention period and stuff.
>> That's all the questions that we're
[49:39] asking.
>> Um,
[49:42] » um, I would start I would start there.
Kansas City is not one on the rules.
[49:48] » Yeah.
>> Any other city? Kansas City does not
[49:51] follow most rules.
>> I don't know if they have flock. I think
[49:54] they were getting them, but I don't know
if they've been implemented yet. Why is
[49:57] that?
>> So is there like
[50:01] » blue springs?
[50:05] » Everybody around here,
>> but they're still smaller as small as us
[50:10] kind of. Would a cult St. Louis
benefit us?
[50:14] » I don't think St. Louis is going to be
any better than Kansas City probably.
[50:19] Well,
>> well, I guess I
[50:23] » follow up on first what the mayor was
just saying. I I don't feel that we have
[50:28] any lack of information. Like there's
nothing that we don't seem to have
[50:34] access to. So like I'm not quite sure
what St. Louis or Kansas City like what
[50:38] kind of information like we have all of
the policy, all of their standard
[50:42] practice, our standard practice. So, um
I I don't see
[50:46] » Well, for example, if we want to go from
30 days to 7 days
[50:51] » and we want to be able to keep that
retention for seven days, is there
[50:56] something out there that will allow us
to do that or is that being checked in
[51:02] the background and they haven't brought
it forward? That's what I'm looking for.
[51:07] » I would think, sorry,
>> I assume that'd be a flop question.
[51:10] » That was exactly what I was going to
say. I think those questions would
[51:12] probably be best um for Flock and for
the company. So if we say we want to do
[51:18] an audit for 30 days but only retain the
data for 7 days, is that something that
[51:22] you can do? How and I think that would
be more of a
[51:25] » because Spock would be able to tell us
what their system is capable of. Yeah,
[51:30] » that's what I was getting at with the
statements from the email that we need
[51:34] to do some more research and ask
questions that pertain um for data
[51:39] management as well as if there's a way
that you can add comments. So, when
[51:44] you're doing your search, you don't have
to come back and do an audit because you
[51:48] already have the police officer's name,
the date, the the five questions that I
[51:53] usually asked. But I think if you if you
do the comment section, you're still
[51:57] going to run back to it.
>> I mean, somebody just put in still lie
[52:00] about it. You know,
>> and I got to go back. I think I think to
[52:05] addressing um a followup for what Pat
said um about
[52:12] what our audit looks like of this system
and what he kind of mentioned as kind of
[52:17] beefing up that audit. And then I think
I kind of agree with where the chief is
[52:22] at. Maybe it makes sense for us to look
at what are the current systems we have
[52:26] in place for auditing other systems that
our city or police use because I think
[52:33] what's feels unfair right now is that we
have tons of systems in place where we
[52:38] have data is stored on servers. That's
part of the nature of digitizing like
[52:44] now city records are kept digitally.
people can then hack that information
[52:48] and access people's private information,
but that's the nature of things move to
[52:53] digital rather than just paper copies.
And there's securities in that too
[52:56] because people can come and steal paper
copies as well. So I mean um I think
[53:01] maybe the greater question here is not
just hey block this has a lot of
[53:04] attention so let's add this crazy audit
process for this one system that we use
[53:09] but then
it's not it's not anywhere near the
[53:13] auditing that we do for other systems.
like why why is it that this one system
[53:17] just because of attention in media or
internet is now having us spend tons of
[53:22] hours on auditing and whatever it is
where I think it probably makes sense
[53:26] for us to kind of mirror policies that
are already in place for other systems.
[53:31] I don't know if you know there is a
difference in obviously this system
[53:34] versus other systems that we have but
maybe that's a good place to start so we
[53:38] can kind of mirror policy rather than
like let's make an entirely new process
[53:44] for this level of of um data what would
that be called retention versus other
[53:53] data retention that we have in place
already.
[53:56] So I mean another thing going on if
there are already systems that
[54:02] complement block or anything else that
we're using and it could be attached to
[54:08] a system that's already in our
infrastructure. That could be one way of
[54:13] resolving it. And I don't know it and
that could be a question that you could
[54:16] ask Flock. Is there any integrated
software that could work with their
[54:20] system with your current um system?
Yeah, Flet right now is a standalone.
[54:26] You can do add-ons like I think I put in
there copies of add-ons you could do.
[54:32] » Um I don't think our RMS system was one
of them.
[54:36] » Okay.
[54:43] » Anything else?
On a flock good note, several years ago,
[54:48] I had a family member member with
dementia get a hold of car keys and take
[54:54] off in a car and flock wasn't as widely
used as it is now. I mean, there weren't
[54:58] as many systems up, but it directed us
to path to look for this family member.
[55:04] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's lots of of
feel-good stories out there about flock.
[55:08] Uh last week, Beloo Springs, I believe,
found a um an Amber Alert.
[55:15] suspect and victim on I70 using the FL
system.
[55:20] It it has it's it's a good tool, but I I
can see some worries about it, but not
[55:28] the way it's been
in my
[55:35] [clears throat]
>> I've got a couple other questions. I'll
[55:38] try to keep these short short
>> surprise me. [laughter]
[55:44] Um on the email it flock mentions a new
feature that they are rolling out office
[55:51] filtering for sharing. When that is
available for us can you provide our
[55:58] settings?
>> On the first page
[56:03] a paragraph right above accountability
says we are also introducing offense
[56:07] filtering for sharing.
Now cities can choose which types of
[56:11] offenses are permissible for other
agencies to access their cameras.
[56:15] » Gotcha.
>> So when that feature is available, can
[56:18] we can we see what it is currently set
to and discuss our implementation
[56:23] support?
>> Yeah.
[56:24] » Okay. Um sorry, I just got this for
right before this meeting. So I I have a
[56:32] couple other things. Um
[56:37] I will point out on page two third
paragraph it says in July 2025 we
[56:43] introduce an optional case code
requirement for searches which we see in
[56:48] the uh and in the audit log there
there's a column where you can put like
[56:54] CR numbers or CY numbers and then we
also have like internal city case
[56:59] numbers as well. I think the difference
is once it's in like case or something.
[57:03] I don't I don't know the rules around
that, but I do see actual case numbers.
[57:07] I see what looks like city case numbers
and then I also see like crash pursuit
[57:11] or hey, we don't we don't have a case
number yet, but I need to look this up.
[57:15] » So, we don't make that a requirement
right now for one of two reasons. Well,
[57:20] one reason. Um,
for example,
[57:25] a child was hit with a car, a blade down
there by Park two weeks ago. Um,
[57:35] pulled the kid out from underneath the
car, put him back in the car, and took
[57:38] off. So, we heard it was coming 3500
pound. Um, so we didn't have a case
[57:43] number for that. It's not our case.
Excuse [clears throat] me. But we knew
[57:47] it was coming. It was going to go by
flock camera somewhere going up 35. We
[57:52] have one right here on Pleasant or 35
right over Pleasant Valley Road that
[57:56] Clay County has.
[clears throat] So right then we didn't
[58:00] have a case number. But like I said, we
knew it was going to hit a flop camera.
[58:04] So we put it in there. Didn't get hit or
anything, but that was a case where if
[58:08] we had to have a case number, we wanted
to search for that car to try to
[58:12] intercept.
>> Switching it to mandatory. Does that
[58:17] remove the ability to put fresh?
[58:22] » I don't think so. I don't know if it's
just number oriented or you can put
[58:28] letters.
>> Okay. Looking through the the log, our
[58:34] officers have been really good about
putting
[58:38] case numbers in it. You can see that
that column right there in the middle.
[58:42] Lots of 26-069.
then and then a handful of freshes. But
[58:47] then you get out of the freshes and the
ones with case numbers and there's
[58:51] there's a number of them that don't have
anything in them. And those are the ones
[58:55] that probably either should go to fresh
or have some other designation
[59:00] » that that reason why we don't
>> there's no drop down.
[59:06] You got this.
>> Yeah.
[59:09] » Well, I can find the audit logs in flock
are pretty much permanent. So even if
[59:16] your the other data is removed after 7
days or 30 days, whatever time period,
[59:20] the audit logs are still available and
they if we require officers or whoever
[59:25] used it to put in a search reason or
other data, then that would be permanent
[59:29] as well. So, I think that would probably
be the tool you want to use in, you
[59:35] know, monthly reviews or whatever.
>> Yeah.
[59:38] » Um, in our policy 421.3
ALPR operation subsection F,
[59:47] it says if practicable, the officer
[clears throat] should verify an ALPR
[59:51] response through mules before taking
enforcement action that is based solely
[59:55] on an event or alert.
So, I'm I'm sure you have seen
[1:00:03] footage, body cam warn footage of people
who have eroded as a bad detection
[1:00:10] license plate and officers took that
alert as gospel and treated it as a
[1:00:15] felony stop when there was nothing wrong
with them. It was the case of a of a bad
[1:00:21] al. And I don't want Pleasant Valley to
be one of those where a body camera
[1:00:27] footage is being played on Fox 4. See
see how they treated these guys. What
[1:00:32] sort of training and what sort of
um procedures do we have in place that's
[1:00:37] beyond just if practical.
>> Yeah, the the if practical is is mainly
[1:00:42] in there. We're pretty tiny city. So if
we see a car and we don't have time to
[1:00:48] run it through mules before they
[clears throat] get out of our city, we
[1:00:52] may not run it through mules to confirm
it. That's really the only time we we
[1:00:56] run it through mules to make sure it's
still a good warrant or whatever it's
[1:00:59] attached to someone or whatever. That
that's really the only practical why
[1:01:04] that's in.
>> Okay. But you can understand the
[1:01:09] sentiment of not putting somebody who
hasn't done anything wrong through a
[1:01:14] felony traffic stop.
>> Oh yeah.
[1:01:16] » Yeah.
>> And that happens without these two is
[1:01:19] » Yeah.
>> We pull up kind somebody and run the
[1:01:22] license plate. And I mean kind of the
same thing. But yeah,
[1:01:26] if practical we we have a um we run it
through first. And on that vein, do you
[1:01:34] guys take some of the like like broader
body cam footage that gets thrown thrown
[1:01:40] around uh new news stations about
situations that involve block cameras
[1:01:44] and use that as training to be like,
"Hey, be aware of this. Let's double
[1:01:49] check."
>> Yeah. We haven't, but we all see it on
[1:01:52] Facebook and know that's an unfortunate
incident and don't want to be put in
[1:01:58] that position.
>> Yeah. But we we don't sit there and talk
[1:02:00] about it in roll call or nothing. But I
mean it's all over Facebook and any
[1:02:05] other news outlet that they're posting
this stuff on. So but we can
[1:02:10] I'm not telling you what to do.
Recommendation. I think it would be
[1:02:14] important to have the sort of how I when
we have incidents that that our guys are
[1:02:21] on these do after action reviews. What
what did we do great? What did we do
[1:02:25] wrong? What can we improve upon? How can
we make this the next time we we see the
[1:02:30] situation better? I think having a more
structured discussion, professional
[1:02:36] discussion, training oriented discussion
with officers of other communities. Hey,
[1:02:43] here's a situation. What did they do
good? Where did they mess up? How can
[1:02:48] what can we benefit from that? I think
having structured training like that
[1:02:51] would be useful. And I would say that to
police. I'd say that to fire, too. um
[1:02:56] public works like that that applies to
every see what other people are doing.
[1:03:00] See where they mess up and see where we
can take some learning lessons and have
[1:03:03] that as a structured uh structured
training rather than hey I hope you guys
[1:03:09] saw on Facebook.
>> I mean we do that but not with the
[1:03:13] device in
>> Yeah. I I think it's so [clears throat]
[1:03:18] the system is very new relatively
speaking and I I I I think more focus
[1:03:25] needs to be put on using the tool
effectively than hey we've got this
[1:03:31] really powerful tool and we have some
semblance of training around it. I think
[1:03:36] we just need a better more structured
training as a result. I think it's
[1:03:40] important enough that they dedicate the
time and resources to train properly.
[1:03:47] » I just a followup question for Pat from
Pat's question to Jared on that. Um
[1:03:55] would you say that that already falls
within the training that you do about
[1:03:59] officer conduct? Because I mean I would
assume it's very similar to you have a
[1:04:03] car that matches a description and then
you pull that person over and it's you
[1:04:07] know it's just the same car very similar
car whatever or you have a person that
[1:04:11] match matches the description of the
person they left from a homicide
[1:04:14] whatever it is in the way that you I
would assume that kind of falls in line
[1:04:18] with the training that you already do
with your officers and the way that you
[1:04:22] treat people when you have a description
match or something like we're we're not
[1:04:27] looking at well this is a license plate
match or it's a picture match. I mean
[1:04:30] that's I imagine in the same vein of
>> Yeah, we do
[1:04:34] » other scenarios. [clears throat]
>> We had one the other day that an officer
[1:04:38] did got hit for I think it was a family
warrant. I don't remember what for uh
[1:04:43] ran it through mules warrant was active
was for a gentleman stopped car was
[1:04:49] female immediately let her go. So
um there are still cases where where
[1:04:56] that's going to happen. Um they advised
during at least I guess multiple times
[1:05:02] for this male um and won't remove the
warrant from the car for whatever
[1:05:08] reason. I won't tell the city that it's
more
[1:05:15] because that that's just where I can see
that that's it could be redundant where
[1:05:18] it's like we we train as a you know to
use all of these tools in a certain way.
[1:05:24] So just because it's basically
like this. Again, the same thing happens
[1:05:27] if a car is misidentified or a person is
misidentified. But because it says
[1:05:31] now it gets on the news because they use
the system and that system is grabbing
[1:05:36] headlines. So I mean from a PR
perspective, I would say that's more of
[1:05:40] the concern where I would say I would
assume that this already falls within
[1:05:44] the training that police officers should
have and how they treat people and and
[1:05:48] and yada yada. But I I I think maybe Pat
your concern is more just hey this is
[1:05:54] something that like news media whatever
is looking for problems. So because it's
[1:06:00] connected to flock you want to be extra
careful that we're not ending up in
[1:06:04] headlines somewhere
which
[1:06:07] » and not just for headline sake but also
for the situations that you put people
[1:06:12] through.
>> Yeah.
[1:06:14] » Potentially our residents potentially
nearby residents. people just people.
[1:06:24] » Thank you for answering questions. I'm
sure we will continue having
[1:06:27] discussions.
>> Yeah, the stuff on your table there was
[1:06:31] stuff I found after I I had sent out the
packet. So,
[1:06:36] » thank you
[1:06:41] in this book for
mine's definitely not as fun as his. Um,
[1:06:47] so you have my report. I will say so the
new judge was supposed to start
[1:06:52] officially for this past on the 10th of
August. Um, and due to a family
[1:06:58] emergency, we did use a provisional
judge. We have Judge Rose. Um, and the
[1:07:05] new judge will begin
hopefully this week sometime.
[1:07:10] » And he had um a death in his family. Is
that correct? He dedicated a death in
[1:07:16] his family and then he went on vacation
and got stranded
[1:07:22] somewhere. Oh my god. There's been a few
like little They kind of all just teamed
[1:07:28] up on them at the same time. So I just
need him in um this week to do an
[1:07:34] operating order that's due for the
state. So he'll be in this week and
[1:07:38] everything will be situated and we have
court again next week
[1:07:42] which will be his first court. Okay.
And what's how much is on the docket at
[1:07:48] this point?
>> Uh 250 pages.
[1:07:51] » Okay.
>> I did a very low amount for this past
[1:07:55] docket to kind of
>> easy
[1:07:58] everything with him. Um
so I couldn't really back out of the one
[1:08:03] I sat after.
>> Okay.
[1:08:11] » Question Sarah.
>> Hey. Um, so you said your docket looks
[1:08:16] like 250.
>> So the the report that you provided
[1:08:19] shows a backlog.
>> Can you describe what the other 1,750
[1:08:29] cases are related? Like so I'm looking
at municipal division submarine
[1:08:36] reporting form cases at the beginning of
the month, cases at the end of the
[1:08:40] month. uh 38 alcohol drug traffic
related other traffic. So we've got a
[1:08:46] lot of other traffic stuff.
>> Is that part of the like amnesty program
[1:08:53] that we try to do or not not amnesty but
>> if you see pending at the end of the
[1:08:57] month it could be my cases at warrant.
It could be cases that are on the next
[1:09:01] few dockets. um it'll combine everything
into that and then you also see
[1:09:07] outstanding
at the bottom that are just active the
[1:09:11] 200 or 2346.
[1:09:16] » So I have not done agency yet. Um okay
for this season um mainly just because
[1:09:24] we were easing in the new prosecutor and
the new judge but I feel like uh in
[1:09:27] March I'm just going to throw throw it
out there.
[1:09:30] » Okay.
[1:09:34] I was just trying to reconcile 2,000.
It's all actually almost 3,000 20 25 I'm
[1:09:41] sorry, 2,700
>> versus the 250 that that are on the
[1:09:45] docket. And I know you can't you can't
possibly get through 2500 cases in a
[1:09:50] single day.
But yeah, no, any any active cases, if I
[1:09:56] have them at warrant, if they're on the
next three dockets, if they're out there
[1:10:00] and they're still active, it's going to
be on the report.
[1:10:04] » Thank you.
>> Anything else for sir?
[1:10:09] [cough]
[1:10:12] » All right.
Okay, Chris,
[1:10:17] you're up.
[1:10:20] So I was asked to put this report
together uh for the sewer line.
[1:10:26] It was after the
information to the pack. So sorry to add
[1:10:31] more paperwork for a very thick packet
but um if you and this I'm sure it's I'm
[1:10:41] referring to this. Um
that first picture shows kind of in the
[1:10:46] middle there you see that anaconda
looking pipe. Um that's obviously the
[1:10:53] exposed line.
[1:10:56] And then
[1:11:00] the sec second picture I don't know I'm
kind of explaining this because I don't
[1:11:04] know if you all have my memory prior to
this but the this on the second page
[1:11:09] that photo shows the
the exposed pipe is about six to eight
[1:11:15] feet to the left in this photo.
The mother nature took the stream and
[1:11:25] kind of re it carved its own path in a
C-shape. So, it's coming the bottom of
[1:11:32] the page would be north and it's flowing
south
[1:11:37] and obviously it's hitting that mounted
up dirt pile and it's shooting 90
[1:11:43] degrees to the left and it's slamming
into the bank where that pipe is and
[1:11:50] scoured out an exposure.
Um,
[1:11:54] [snorts]
according to Keith Gins who lives, this
[1:11:58] is his backyard. This is his property,
both sides of the stream. Uh, and for a
[1:12:03] portion north and to the south, the
stream used to flow straight there.
[1:12:09] So,
um,
[1:12:13] Ron and I met Sunday morning and we went
down. Ron being the city engineer, our
[1:12:18] city engineer, went down, looked at it.
Uh, Mr. G joined us after a bit. That's
[1:12:25] second time I went down and looked at
it. First time was when I took these
[1:12:29] photos, but um,
and Ron got his eyes on it and he's
[1:12:36] currently putting together flow numbers,
flow volumes,
[1:12:41] um,
and he's going to quickly put together a
[1:12:46] plan to do the repair. Uh when I first
looked at it, I said, "Well, I'd
[1:12:52] probably come in here with an excavator,
dig that mount of dirt, and bring it
[1:12:57] over back on top of the pipe." Um,
talking to a couple of dirt guys that I
[1:13:04] know and talking with Ron, that may or
may not work. Um, it'll depend on some
[1:13:10] of the numbers that Ron
digs up on his studies.
[1:13:15] » And that would be like the force. That's
the force of the um liquid that's coming
[1:13:22] downstream. Is that correct? The flow is
>> Yes.
[1:13:27] » Thank you.
>> Yes. So, so simply by
[1:13:31] excavating that mound out and moving it
essentially out of the path of the
[1:13:38] stream or in this case creating a new
path for the water to flow. you're
[1:13:44] taking all that energy away and it's not
going to be turning and slamming into
[1:13:49] the bank and scouring out the and
exposing the pipe. Um,
[1:13:53] » and do [clears throat] we know for sure
that that pipe is C is Pleasant
[1:13:58] Valley's?
>> Yeah.
[1:13:59] » It's not Liberty's interceptor pipe.
>> It's not Kansas City's
[1:14:04] » I'm sorry.
>> Yeah. No. Uh, and I don't know that
[1:14:08] because anybody from Kansas City called
me back because that would be an act of
[1:14:12] God. [laughter]
Um,
[1:14:13] » uh, having gone through that with the
sewer rates, I [clears throat]
[1:14:17] I can concur.
>> Between them and Mo, it's like they
[1:14:20] might as well just cancel their phone
and save a bunch of money.
[1:14:25] » I had a question. How old is the pipe
and what's the size of the pipe?
[1:14:29] » Late 70s.
>> And is it like a six?
[1:14:33] » It's a 8 in inside diameter pipe, 10 in
outside diameter pipe.
[1:14:41] So when
>> which is kind of which is kind of
[1:14:44] standard for our what you would call
like trunk lines.
[1:14:47] » Okay.
>> Um
[1:14:50] the interceptors 10 12 in in places.
>> Okay. And then I just have a question.
[1:14:56] With it being um built in the 70s,
should we have a concern um in replacing
[1:15:04] it and redirecting the screen to ensure
that we don't have um runoff or
[1:15:11] potential issues
>> um
[1:15:15] » because you mentioned earlier that
there's potential for leakage and just
[1:15:20] preventing it if you're going to work on
it. So that section of pipe along with
[1:15:26] numerous other sections was just scoped
and televised.
[1:15:31] » Okay.
>> Eight months ago.
[1:15:33] » So it was in good shape.
>> No, no issues.
[1:15:36] » No issues.
>> We went from manhole to manhole. Uh,
[1:15:39] this is about in the middle of,
[clears throat] if you look on the last
[1:15:45] page of this report,
it shows you
[1:15:51] where this where that section is
>> in that black circle. And that's between
[1:15:58] manhole 161 and 162.
Okay,
[1:16:02] » which
if you look inside the circle, 245
[1:16:08] linear feet
from manhole to manhole. The section of
[1:16:12] pipe exposed is 21 ft. I wheel it off.
Um,
[1:16:18] and it was so we went from manhole uh 62
to manhole 61 8 months ago and there was
[1:16:28] no issues whatsoever. No. And then when
you're on site looking at a pipe that's
[1:16:35] exposed like that,
you would you would smell you have an
[1:16:40] odor. you'd have a um rainbow or prism
looking
[1:16:47] um slick on the top of the water. Um
so we know we don't have issues with
[1:16:56] that. I I walk all the time between the
trails between
[1:17:01] uh Brighton and Indiana
and there's that's Gen City stuff over
[1:17:07] there. There's
I walk by six to eight pipes exposed
[1:17:12] like that that are like 30 to 40 ft
long.
[1:17:20] » I guess they're not concerned about it.
But um
[1:17:23] » but we're concerned. [laughter]
>> Yeah.
[1:17:26] » Said but we're concerned.
>> Well, yeah. I mean it it not only would
[1:17:29] you have some environmental issues and
possibly [clears throat]
[1:17:35] » but you would have some uh you'd have
people with that
[1:17:40] service.
Um
[1:17:42] » so what are the different options again?
>> What are the different options again?
[1:17:47] » So what Ron's looking into and what we
we've discussed are on um
[1:17:54] » page three.
>> Yeah.
[1:17:57] He he's he's
concerned about the volume numbers may
[1:18:03] prompt us or we may want to
build a concrete wall
[1:18:12] » on the stream side or what would be the
west side of the pipe spanning the
[1:18:17] length of what's exposed. Um
or possibly use uh what's called geog
[1:18:25] grid. You see it a lot of times when
they build stone walls. Um
[1:18:31] it's a matting that keeps stone in
place.
[1:18:36] um
or just possibly having the geomat put
[1:18:43] over the pipe. Then rip wrap,
which rip wrap is stone. stone that's um
[1:18:54] made
to
[1:18:59] certain sizes four to six inch
7 to 8 10 12 it's used you see it all
[1:19:07] the time stream side and all um so
anyway he'll get back to us on that we I
[1:19:15] believe the attorneys have said we just
need to get three
[1:19:22] bid numbers. We don't have to do a whole
30-day.
[1:19:27] » No.
>> And then uh we do need to reach out to
[1:19:32] Army Corps Engineers to uh have their
blessing on changing.
[1:19:37] » No. When you say blessing, is there a
piece of paper that we sign with them?
[1:19:42] » Yeah.
>> Okay. So, that's going to have to come
[1:19:44] before the board.
>> Yes.
[1:19:46] » To do that?
>> Yes. And then we would also have a um
[1:19:50] temporary constru construction easement
>> with signed by the property owner.
[1:19:59] » This the equipment that's going to need
to go down in his backyard to do this
[1:20:04] work is going to be like your large
excavator on on track.
[1:20:08] » Huge.
>> Yeah. It's not going to be a little
[1:20:11] backo or a little mini excavator. Um
he may he mentioned
[1:20:18] I've met with him down there twice
already talked quite he's for those of
[1:20:24] you that don't know he's super good guy
um
[1:20:28] but he back years ago when the army
corps engineer came through Pleasant
[1:20:34] Valley knowing that there's going to be
a very large housing addict add ed add
[1:20:41] ed add ed add ed add ed add ed add ed
add ed add ed add edition and
[1:20:44] multiple businesses being built on
152.
[1:20:50] All that runoff
they knew was going to be headed our
[1:20:55] way. Um
us being valley um we get everybody's
[1:21:02] water. So they came in the army core
engineer and they laid back the stream
[1:21:07] banks and opened them up for more water
coming from the north. And uh when they
[1:21:15] did that, Keith himself planted a lot of
birch trees and other trees along the
[1:21:21] bank for bank stabilization.
>> Um so he's he's probably going to want a
[1:21:27] few trees planted back. It looks like u
and I know John was down there and
[1:21:32] looked at it too. For the machine to get
in there, there's going to be two maybe
[1:21:38] three trees removed. Um there's two 8 in
round approximately trees growing up out
[1:21:45] of that mounded dirt that'll of course
have to be plucked out, but there's a
[1:21:50] couple on the bank that'll have to be
moved just simply for the wood sheet.
[1:21:55] » I have one last question. What's the
depth of the of the stream in that area?
[1:21:59] Do you know? Is it like less than
>> like the OW original height of water is
[1:22:07] » 3 ft?
>> Okay.
[1:22:11] » And with um the core of engineering,
will they have to go out to assess it
[1:22:16] and will they be built for it? I'm just
curious how that process works. I've
[1:22:20] never had to approach them for anything
like this, so I don't know, but we'll
[1:22:26] know. Hopefully by this week.
>> Thank you.
[1:22:31] » And
are you going to reach out to Army Corps
[1:22:34] or
[1:22:39] » he knows we want to get this done by the
end of the year?
[1:22:42] » I had that conversation.
>> That's good.
[1:22:44] » Sunday morning.
>> Yeah. I told him, you know, we Yeah, we
[1:22:49] talked about that.
So, it's kind of one of those FYI, you
[1:22:55] guys. And
[1:22:59] » is this is this the first exposed pipe
we've had since we put the pipe in
[1:23:06] » the sewer pipe?
>> No, there was one on North Elm behind
[1:23:10] Mclofflin's
uh here.
[1:23:12] » Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. I remember
>> right by what the bridge of Culbert that
[1:23:17] they put in um that tributary. Yes.
>> That's mostly dry. Only flows when it
[1:23:24] rains washed out of out of 2 and 1/2
foot sectioning pipe. [clears throat]
[1:23:30] And it was they fixed it by just taking
concrete in the bag and you just set the
[1:23:38] bags
down
[1:23:41] » on both sides and on top and you put
dirt over it. You walk away.
[1:23:47] That's the only other spot that I'm
aware side of.
[1:23:51] » So that was a smaller length.
>> Yeah.
[1:23:53] » Okay.
>> And it was also it was a 6 inch line.
[1:23:59] It was a four or six. It was a fourth.
>> Well, that's pretty good for, you know,
[1:24:06] 50 plus years of sewers in our town.
>> Yeah. And and I, you know, I say this
[1:24:13] all the time. Anytime a company's come
into town and scope our sewer lines,
[1:24:19] they always say they're in really good
shape. Does that mean they're going to
[1:24:23] last forever? No. But I Ron and I and
all of them think that we have a lot of
[1:24:29] life left in our lives, but
at the same time, you know, they're not
[1:24:35] going to last forever. So, I think it's
a good idea that you're looking to set
[1:24:38] money aside for repairs, especially
because what I told you earlier about
[1:24:43] what those what it would like to cost to
replace our whole system.
[1:24:49] So,
[1:24:52] » that's all I got. Thank you.
>> All right.
[1:24:58] » Okay. Treasures report. Um
Matthew, would you update where she's at
[1:25:05] and trying to get into the system?
>> Well, I I guess the only update would be
[1:25:10] working on her getting remote access to
encode, which has kind of been a
[1:25:15] challenge, but as of this afternoon,
that we that is done. She has the access
[1:25:20] she needs to.
>> Okay. Thank you. And that will allow her
[1:25:26] to start working on the pulled cash
portion of our accounting system.
[1:25:34] All right.
[1:25:37] Sorry guys, personnel committee,
anything from you?
[1:25:41] » I don't have any actual reports. We
don't have any recommendations uh yet,
[1:25:45] but just to
>> yeah to let everyone know just the
[1:25:48] topics of discussion. were still the
compensation study. Um, still under
[1:25:52] review. So, we'll update you guys when
that's done. And then we were asked
[1:25:56] about the police chief being brought
back to a solid position. Um, it was
[1:26:01] » something outside.
>> Huh?
[1:26:03] » Somewhere on the outside.
>> No, no, no, no. It was so previous uh
[1:26:07] previously the board had temporarily
made the police chief hourly. the board
[1:26:13] previously
>> seriously
[1:26:15] » uh because of being understaffed and
overtime demand whatever but we are now
[1:26:20] at a staffing point by the chief's uh
recollection of what they had originally
[1:26:25] said that is past where they wanted to
keep him hourly and then switch it back
[1:26:30] to salary. So we don't have all the
information on that. So admin is looking
[1:26:34] into kind of the um what the past board
actions were. So we have some
[1:26:41] information based off what their
previous wishes were as well as legal
[1:26:44] requirements and then they'll bring the
personnel that information and then
[1:26:47] we'll bring the board information and
the recommendation. So just in the early
[1:26:51] phase that was just introduced at the
last meeting.
[1:26:56] » Okay. Do we have the preference of the
chief?
[1:27:02] Was that discussed in personnel? We we
we didn't do a discussion on it because
[1:27:08] we did not have information about what
we legally can do and what the past
[1:27:15] board had said they were going to do.
So, we want to get that information
[1:27:18] first in the next meeting. Assuming we
can get that information, which I assume
[1:27:21] we will by the next personnel meeting,
we'll have the bigger discussion about
[1:27:25] what you know the city would like to
actually do.
[1:27:28] » Okay.
>> So,
[1:27:31] » all right. Patrick, we were we were I
can't I can't surren you and I were on
[1:27:36] the board at that time, right?
>> Or no,
[1:27:40] » I didn't know what I was doing at that
time. [laughter]
[1:27:43] » It was like right before.
>> That's perfectly honest.
[1:27:46] » When Pat first joined and right,
>> it would have been like within the first
[1:27:51] three to six months, right? Like it was
it was early on in my work history.
[1:27:57] » I can't remember. Did you come I can't
remember if you came up uh with some
[1:28:01] sort of idea about that or Okay,
[clears throat]
[1:28:04] » talk about this.
>> I I would rather we wait for to get some
[1:28:07] of the actual information. That's
>> I just wanted to make sure
[1:28:10] » we we can kind of save the big long
discussion until we have just some
[1:28:14] actual historical data to work with.
>> Short answer, yes. I made the request to
[1:28:17] go.
>> Okay.
[1:28:18] » Yeah. [laughter]
>> Yep. Okay.
[1:28:21] » Currently,
>> yeah, I put out 23.
[1:28:25] » Okay.
[1:28:29] All right.
All right. I've said papers assuming
[1:28:37] finance.
>> Everybody has a budget summary in their
[1:28:43] board packet along with updated charts.
Nothing looks abnormal. Um I sent a
[1:28:49] couple of questions over to Matthew over
the weekend. Uh this is nailed down
[1:28:54] little oddities to the budget. So, if
you notice something, feel free to hit
[1:28:58] up Matthew on email and call out some
stuff. Uh, I didn't see anything that
[1:29:05] really warranted a full discussion with
us. We are in dream budget season. So,
[1:29:10] uh, Matthew and I sat down and nailed
down a date where we're going to have
[1:29:15] informal meetings with department heads
[clears throat]
[1:29:18] uh, to go over your guys's objectives
for the next year, your financial needs,
[1:29:24] um, and nail down some of your initial
budget numbers. That's scheduled for
[1:29:28] August 31st.
So, be prepared.
[1:29:33] » It goes with a month end
>> on the last day of the month. Yes,
[1:29:39] [laughter]
>> that acceptable.
[1:29:40] » It goes with Labor Day, Sarah.
>> Month in [laughter]
[1:29:46] » that's all I heard. [snorts]
>> Um, so again, looking at estimated
[1:29:52] expenses,
looked at what equipment you guys have,
[1:29:55] what uh your capital improvement
requests are going to be for the next
[1:30:00] year. Starting to put those on the paper
so that we can get an idea together. I'm
[1:30:05] just an observer observer. Matthew is
going to be running it. But I think
[1:30:10] having all of the heads sitting down at
the same time will will help make the
[1:30:14] process hopefully painless.
So that's all that's all the stuff that
[1:30:22] I've got.
>> Less people around.
[1:30:28] [laughter]
>> All right.
[1:30:32] » New business. Anything?
And our reminder for our next meeting
[1:30:36] will be on a Tuesday after Labor Day,
>> not Monday.
[1:30:43] » And it's like three weeks.
>> Yeah.
[1:30:45] » I think the 8th of September be the
first the next meeting.
[1:30:49] » Thank you for that.
[1:30:55] » Any other new new business?
[1:31:01] All right, let's go to
our consideration of ordinances.
[1:31:07] Matthew, would you please read council
bill number 3662?
[1:31:13] An ordinance approving an agreement
between the city of Pleasant Valley,
[1:31:16] Missouri, and Green Great Race LLC for
professional services relating to sewer
[1:31:22] rate analysis services.
>> So move second.
[1:31:28] » Well, yes. Okay. Any any discussion
regarding this?
[1:31:38] » Okay. Call the RO.
>> Yes.
[1:31:42] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:31:44] » Page.
>> Yes.
[1:31:45] » Scarboro.
>> Yes.
[1:31:46] » Showers.
>> Yes.
[1:31:48] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:31:53] Um, read the title bill out loud of
council bill 3662, please.
[1:31:59] » An ordinance approving an agreement
between the city of Pleasant Valley,
[1:32:03] Missouri and Green Rates LLC for
professional services relating to sew
[1:32:08] rate analysis services.
>> Okay,
[1:32:13] » I move we accept council bill 3662 as
ordinance 366.
[1:32:21] Any further discussion? That was Dean.
Did you say second it? Okay.
[1:32:30] » Gallagher.
>> Yes.
[1:32:31] » Yes.
>> Yes. Paige,
[1:32:34] » yes.
>> Yes.
[1:32:35] » Shar.
>> Yes.
[1:32:37] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[1:32:41] » Just to let everybody know, we have
started on this process with Mr. Brown
[1:32:48] with an initial phone call.
to see where everybody what everybody
[1:32:54] needs to be doing.
[1:33:06] » Matthew, please read aloud the title of
the bill
[1:33:10] 3663,
an ordinance approving an agreement
[1:33:14] between the city of Pleasant Valley,
Missouri and Summer, Inc. and
[1:33:18] authorizing the mayor to execute the
documents on behalf of the city.
[1:33:22] » Thank you.
>> Okay. [snorts]
[1:33:24] Motion in a second.
>> So move.
[1:33:27] » Second.
>> All right. Discussion.
[1:33:34] » Call the
>> yes.
[1:33:36] » Callie,
>> yes.
[1:33:38] » Yes.
>> Paige,
[1:33:39] » yes.
>> Scar,
[1:33:40] » yes.
>> Showers,
[1:33:41] » yes.
>> Olson,
[1:33:42] » yes.
>> Freeman,
[1:33:43] » yes.
[1:33:47] Motion's approved.
>> And if you need to do it again,
[1:33:53] » an ordinance approving an agreement
between the city of Pleasal and Missouri
[1:33:57] and Summer
and authorizing the mayor to execute the
[1:34:01] documents on behalf of the city.
>> We pass council bill 3663 as ordinance
[1:34:08] 3662.
>> Second
[1:34:13] that. Everybody likes this ordinance.
>> Got one question.
[1:34:20] » Okay, go ahead, John.
>> There was discussion in here about
[1:34:25] moving a machine from to downstairs or
copier or something.
[1:34:33] Yes, we we as part of that process we we
did a walk through of admin, police
[1:34:41] department, public works, fire station
and what and so everybody in those
[1:34:47] departments was involved and what made
sense to there's a couple we're going to
[1:34:52] eliminate all together and one's going
to there's going to be some moving
[1:34:55] around just for the best use.
>> Okay.
[1:34:59] » When when is this happening?
at the end of the month just for
[1:35:04] [laughter]
[1:35:07] the
>> 33rd
[1:35:09] » because we're staying with the same
company. We're not bringing in new
[1:35:12] devices and learning. So there won't be
any training necessarily involved. So
[1:35:17] soon because I'll give I'll let we have
four groups give us bids. So I'll let
[1:35:24] the other three know when I'm going with
Jim and let someone know we are.
[1:35:29] soon.
[1:35:38] » Gallagher,
>> yes.
[1:35:39] » Caligan,
>> yes.
[1:35:41] » Yes.
>> Paige,
[1:35:42] » yes.
>> Scarro,
[1:35:43] » yes.
>> Showers,
[1:35:44] » yes.
>> Olsson,
[1:35:46] » yes.
>> Freeman,
[1:35:47] » yes.
[1:35:51] » Okay. At this point, I'm going to
entertain
[1:35:56] a motion to adjurnn.
>> We before I just one point, it's
[1:36:02] » too late. I
>> sorry [laughter]
[1:36:06] just for for everyone's sake, the part
because the meeting is going to be after
[1:36:12] Labor Day. So to let you know that the
fire department is planning on doing our
[1:36:16] boot block for muscular distrophe on uh
Labor Day weekend. So, we will be out
[1:36:22] probably at the four-way stop again
Saturday and Sunday collecting.
[1:36:27] Uh, I think we raised $3,000 last year.
So, hopefully we'll
[1:36:32] » do well this year.
>> 3001.
[1:36:34] » Yep. [laughter]
>> Sorry. Can I share something but I
[1:36:38] forgot to
on last Thursday or Friday there was a
[1:36:44] contracted company that sets out uh
construction cones and whatnot for
[1:36:53] construction companies getting ready to
do work. Ask the guy what's going on.
[1:36:57] You might have saw the delineators
across the street from Quick Trip. We're
[1:37:01] running towards
>> 8601
[1:37:07] » running towards Hes
>> Liberty. Yeah.
[1:37:10] » Okay.
Tandem Paving has the job. Tandem Mar is
[1:37:16] getting ready to do our job
>> on the east side of 69 highway.
[1:37:21] » They they started this morning.
They they the contract the guy setting
[1:37:27] the cones out told me that there's a
company they're coming to pay.
[1:37:32] I he didn't know who and all that
anyway. So I looked [clears throat] into
[1:37:35] it further found out it's well they
started this morning way down Liberty
[1:37:41] Parkway
and used to be the dog where it ended
[1:37:47] » coming our way.
[1:37:50] I was told that they're doing that
they're meeting us at our city
[1:37:55] » limit
>> limit
[1:37:58] » in front of quick
>> which
[1:38:00] » obviously then after they pave
[1:38:05] » they'll be sparking
>> the pain
[1:38:12] » terrible.
>> Yeah. So trying to confirm it. I know
[1:38:16] that they physically started at the dog
leg and came about. They made it almost
[1:38:24] to Casey's.
>> That's good. It'll fix those two bad
[1:38:27] spots right quick that are still
>> So anyway, just a heads up for you
[1:38:32] emergency people
if you guys are being asked by residents
[1:38:37] and all that. I'll try to find out more
and let you know. Anyway, just wanted
[1:38:43] » I move we second.
Okay,
[1:38:48] » please call the vote.
>> Gallagher,
[1:38:50] » yes.
>> Caligan,
[1:38:52] » yes.
>> Holtz,
[1:38:52] » yes.
>> Paige,
[1:38:54] » yes.
>> Scarboro,
[1:38:55] » yes.
>> Showers,
[1:38:56] » yes.
>> Olson,
[1:38:57] » yes.
>> Freeman,
[1:38:58] » yes.
>> I'm going to ask all aldermen to leave
[1:39:01] these two
um pieces of paper
[1:39:06] um on the
trash pile, please. You receive We can't
[1:39:13] see what pieces. I think I think
[1:39:21] » I don't think we had them.
>> Yeah, I think they
[1:39:24] » you brought them up with yourself.
>> Well, they may have been in my pile.
[1:39:29] » Okay. I take your