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» Will you
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on the street?
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» Okay, I'll go ahead and call tonight's
R&R budget hearing

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um meeting
for Tuesday, September 8, 2026 together

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uh
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» to order and remind everybody the reason
that we're here, of course, is the R&R

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hearing and budget hearing for 2027's
budget.

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Um
With that, I will transition right away

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to opening the hearing for R&R
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the revenue neutral rate

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which currently the revenue neutral rate
is 84.005

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mills the
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rate before everybody is 87.284
mills

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um down from last year's, which was
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mills.
So, with that being open, I'll remind

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everybody if anybody would like to speak
in regarding or to the R&R, you do have,

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since this This a hearing, 5 minutes to
address the council on anything. I would

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ask that you if you would like to speak
regarding the revenue neutral rate,

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please kind of stand and that way I know
who's wanting to do that. And when you

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come up, please state your name,
address,

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and then I will start that timer for you
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R&R hearing is open. Do we have anyone
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revenue neutral rate?
If you'd like to

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» Hello.
>> Come to the podium, state your name and

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address for the record, please.

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» Um my name is Ashley Mitchell.
And I am here actually, I don't know if

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it's Can you state your address too,
please? Oh, yeah. Um 206 East 13th here

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in Pleasanton.
Um I don't really know if I'm against

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the revenue neutral or for it. All I
know is that I am a citizen and my taxes

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have tripled in the last 4 years.
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it's time for it to stop.
We're not seeing any benefits.

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I just think that it's just time for it
to stop for a while. Give us a break.

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I know elderly people that can't even be
here to speak for themselves. They can't

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can't pay their
taxes. They're they're going to lose

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their homes.
Pleasanton is losing what we were built

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off of.
Who we know.

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Because the taxes are getting so high
that people cannot afford to live here.

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Um I think that's super important for
everybody to remember. I don't just come

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and talk
anytime. I do voice my opinion often,

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but I don't come and speak often.
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done something with money in the past to
where whether it's on purpose or not on

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purpose, we don't know. We just are here
and we get the end. It's either the good

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end or the bad end. And lately we've
been getting a pretty bad end.

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And it's not fair to us,
the people of Pleasanton that truly do

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care.
So, I'm just asking you guys to not

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heighten these taxes because we need to
live here.

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I thought I was going to live here my
entire life, but if these taxes keep

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going up like this, I'm going to move.
And I know for a fact I'm not the only

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one.
I mean, we need people in Pleasanton.

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You guys want us to pay our taxes, you
want the taxpayers to pay, you have to

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have people.
You're going to lose people

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if this keeps happening.
And that's all I really wanted to say

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today.
So, thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» You ready?

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» Hi.
My name is Robert Woody. I live

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at um
601 East Park Street. I never really

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know what to do with my hat, so I'm
going to put it right there.

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Uh I understand that
this goes out on YouTube and uh whoever

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cares to listen to it can listen to it.
So, before I get started, there's

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something that I want to say. Hi, Mom.

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Like the um
speaker before me, and then I'm coming

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before you as
citizen of the of Pleasanton, your your

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constituent,
a taxpayer, uh

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someone who has always
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» worked on the philosophy that
each one of you who are sitting on this

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council here because you wanted to be.
Mr. Mayor, you're there where you're at

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because you wanted to be. Um,
and I'm sure you had a vision of what

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you would like to accomplish.
Uh, but the issue tonight is property

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tax
and because of the limited time, I just

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wanted to come off right off the bat and
say I cannot support

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an increase in the revenue for it.
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the trend
of property taxes

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uh, here in Linn County
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upward
upward

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upward several thousand dollars, um,
that some of us pay,

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um,
to the county.

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Um,
and I I I I say this with with some

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trepidation because
well, I don't really understand

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uh, the
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the the things that you all face when
trying to put together a budget and and

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running the city and all the things you
have to do with the resources you have

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to live with.
I acknowledge that that is a serious

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problem for you.
But, the trend line we see on property

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taxes in our in our state and in our
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is just going up and up and up and one
of these days, whether it's this year or

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next year or the year after,
you're going to get to the point where

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you're just going to be out of other
people's money.

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People are either not going to be able
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or they just won't do it.
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we'll become like what my future
probably holds for me,

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a future, um, property tax refugee.
Um, if I can live in a state that is

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going to cost me two or three thousand
dollars less a year, a retired person,

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my wife is sick,
we're going to go where it's easier to

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live.
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that is an issue. And you know, it's
kind of funny in my I did some research

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for Mine Creek and [laughter] I ran
across a uh an article in the in the

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Pleasant Observer in 1968 that said
property taxes in Kansas are too high.

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That was a long time ago.
And then, you know, so we're still

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talking about the same thing.
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I um
understand uh the way that the system

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works here in Kansas, and I could have
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that while the state excess established
the the the uh assessment rate,

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uh it's up to the county to do the
assessment, and then it's up to local

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governments or anyone who is
going to receive property tax money to

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get together, work out a budget, and
then try to figure out how much they're

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going to need the next year.
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in Linn County, myself,
folks in this room, besides being able

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to stand up in front of you and say
something, have absolutely no control

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what you all do, what you all vote for.
Now, again, I could be wrong, but I've

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I've been studying this,
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it is really at two two a point now
where I believe personally, this is just

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from my own heart,
this is not and this is not anything,

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but I I really believe personally that
if we as citizens of our county are

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going to get any relief from property
taxes, we're going to have to look to

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the state to get them.
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you all are faced with problems. I'm
sure you have a shrinking

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at least a stagnant or maybe even a
shrinking tax base that you have to work

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with. You need money. It's got to come
from somewhere. I understand that.

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But, I just want to let you know from my
heart

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and just to speak for my friends around
me and the people that I know every day

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and I go to church with and do this and
do that.

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It's getting to the point where
we are not going to be able to sustain

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that particular system for very much
longer. Thank you very much. You all

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have a great day.
Thank you.

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» [clears throat]
[laughter]

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» My name is Carolyn Bolton and I live at
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And I'm one of those old people that
live here that really can't afford for

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my taxes to go up.
I live on social security.

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Our water just went up because the water
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Uh and now the taxes are going to go up
and I work part-time just to have to pay

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my taxes.
So, I just hope you guys can figure out

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something that will rework the system
and the budget so that maybe you won't

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have to raise our taxes again this year.
Thank you.

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» Tuesday Stark, 759 Maple.
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I just want to make sure am I seeing
this correctly that the budget for '26

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is like 2 and 1/2 million
and you're wanting to spend over 4

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million next year. Am I seeing that
right?

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Um and I just want to echo them. This
has got to stop.

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It's got to stop. I'm looking at
probably writing a $5,000 check at tax

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time this year.
Anybody want to pay that for me?

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Uh this week we're here. Next week uh
the school is also holding a hearing as

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far as I know.
And the county is also.

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Everybody.

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It's got to stop.
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I just I don't know what else to say.
It's It's just You're just

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running as ragged here trying to pay
property taxes.

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And it's got to stop.

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» [cough and clears throat]

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» Go ahead.
>> Terry Tucker. I live at 1402 Maple

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Street and I just want to say that I do
agree with everything that's been said

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tonight that um
you know, it's we can't keep paying what

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we're going to pay
if it keeps going up and up because

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myself, I'm on Social Security retired.
And everything goes up, you know, and we

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just can't do it. And I have
actually spoke to my husband about if it

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keeps doing it, we're to have to move,
too.

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We'll just move to a town or a state
that's uh cheaper to live.

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So, if there's anything you can do to
not raise taxes, we would appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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» Anybody else?

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Okay.
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» Okay. Uh anybody else want to speak into
the uh revenue neutral rate?

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Okay, then I will officially
call that hearing closed.

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Turn to normal meeting.
Um before I open up the budget hearing

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portion, I do want to kind of for those
that have the budget in front of them,

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like the notice of hearing that's there.
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one of the things there is like in the
third portion where the numbers are,

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where you get to that um
little bit higher net expenditures and

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so forth. I want to point out that the
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expenditure is listed in there and
that's raising the overall expenditures

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as well as the consolidated streets has
more in it than in prior years because

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of the intent of the council to actually
use those funds

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within 2027. Those had to be included
within the budget portion. So, that's

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going to make it seem like
"Oh, wow. We're wanting to spend double

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what is normal." And that's not
collecting double what is normal. That's

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spending the funds that have been
gathered so that we can use those for

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the fixing of the streets
and etc. Cuz it has to be kind of worked

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into the budget within that
for it to be done

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correctly.
So, that's why you might notice some of

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that is a little bit
higher [clears throat]

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double higher for
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And and then with that, I will
officially call the 2027 budget hearing

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open.

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Would anyone like to speak into the 2027
budget?

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» Well,
I I just had a question. Um we're

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talking about the street budget, but it
doesn't seem like any of our streets

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ever get fixed. So, I don't know what's
going on with that.

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» That That would be addressed at the next
council meeting.

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» Okay.

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Before we go on, just a matter um
can you tell me if the GAAP waiver has

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been um the resolution has been passed
for this year?

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» GAAP
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um generally accepted accounting
principle.

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It's a resolution that needs to be
passed.

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» Okay.
>> Has it been passed yet for this year?

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» The general
Okay.

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» Generally accepted accounting
principles.

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» GAAP
Yeah.

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» Has it been passed?
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» Well, I'm not I don't I mean it's a
violation if we do not pass it. So, we

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need to pass it before we even vote on
the uh budget. So, have you Can you go

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look to see if it's been
uh brought up?

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Or anything?
Cuz we need to pass it.

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So.
Because it's I mean it's really

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important that our we pass it.
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Can you look at the resolution that
>> Yeah.

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» What is it titled?
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» GAAP waiver
>> Yeah, the waiver.

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» Mhm.

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» Cuz it's a it'll be a direct violation
and then it's the

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The state law specifically the Kansas
budget law KSA 79-2925

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and KSA 75-1120
uh um

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says it's a violation if we do not pass
it.

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So, we have to pass it.
>> Okay, so when is it normally passed?

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» January through uh March the first uh
part of the year.

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» Okay.
So, is it something that's quarterly?

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» No, it's yearly.
>> It's yearly?

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» Mhm. And it was passed in uh '25, but
this has not been passed this year.

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So.

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And also the I noticed that the new deal
bond is not fit on the

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um the budget and the water rate
raises

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um is not listed either.

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» Is the assumption your CPAs are using
GAAP?

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» Is
the what?

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» Is your assumption that the CPAs you
prepared this are not using GAAP?

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» If they
we have to hire somebody and it's a lot

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of money if we
um hire the amounts and so

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um it's just recommended that
our small a small town there really

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go to work.
>> I'm not seeing anything.

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» I don't think it's been passed.
This year.

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» Has it ever been passed?

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» Um

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Could someone call for a recess so we
can

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» Make a motion for a 10-minute recess.
>> Can I second?

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» All in favor.

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We return at 6:31.

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» [clears throat]

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» I don't.

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We need to
Did you get what number wrote.

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» No, I didn't. I didn't.

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They usually pass it when they pass
all the other boards.

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The auditor tells you what accounting
principle

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they
Everybody usually gets it. It shows

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Everybody usually gets it.
And it shows if you can pass the

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resolution that says make the They must
use GAAP.

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» After I read about this, I stopped
reading.

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» But they're already using it.
I mean

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» [laughter]
>> That doesn't take an easy guess.

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Yeah, we're using GAAP.

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» Usually they are when they do all the
like newspaper format and same format.

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» That's all they want you to do.

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Otherwise, you know, you're

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It prevents cooking the books, so to
speak. I get that.

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But
it's purely accounting principle that

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they use.
>> Well, the county was on cash.

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» Yeah.
>> 2 years ago when that report was done.

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» No, maybe it's just cash.

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No, I didn't hear you.

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Right?

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Right?

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Right?
>> I don't know if it's not GAAP.

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» That's what I thought, too.
For 100,000 increase.

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Well,
34.15.

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Oh, oh, I'm sure.
This is the difference of this.

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Okay, I hear you.
70% 70% 4.05

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» Who is this? I got to stay on my phone
out the door.

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» That's a 40.6%
increase.

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» With the increase in property valuation
plus the increase in mill rate

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is a 40% increase in people's taxes.
>> I'm not sure what the one is.

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Okay, 39.
What's that?

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» [laughter]

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» You said 1% didn't you?
>> Yeah, but it

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it saves every every month for you.
>> Okay, got you.

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» I'm not sure. How much money is in that

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» Uh
So, the further

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I would say 800 is just
>> [laughter]

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» 807
807,000

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» Yeah.
That's your crew.

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What's that?
807,000

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of crew.
Right.

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807,000 is what's in the account right
now. I understand what you're saying.

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And it takes a million dollars to pay
for mile.

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Yeah.
Hot asphalt.

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I mean

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I vote that we do it right at my
building over here.

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» [laughter]
>> Unfortunately, no.

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I I I'd love to give everybody what they
want, but I can't.

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» I'll get you a personal

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» Come come next week.
I'll explain it all. I'll be glad to.

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» Yeah.

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Yeah, that's in the city too.

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Yeah.
Well,

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this is showing me the the resolution
numbers for the last three years.

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Uh 466, 451, 452,
448 and 449 was what the resolution

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numbers passed unanimously for the year

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25, 24, and 23.
>> [laughter]

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» 26
No.

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» so what done last year?
>> Really?

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» What it sounds like on here it has to be
done.

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» Hey.
>> Angle of the camera.

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» Hey, that's what the guy said last time
he was here.

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» Yeah.

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» The 75 has 1128 states it has to be
done.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay.

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If they can't find it at least we should
at least have another one or two.

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» So how long is it?
>> It's all right.

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» Yeah.

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» Hey.
>> After

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» I think
>> I think I did.

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» I think it's been a little while.
>> I can't find

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» I thought it might have been a shot of
there.

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» They have to
>> I wasn't even asking.

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» I think that's what I said.
>> She didn't know.

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» In between them.

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» It's okay.
Ryan's going to want to kiss you.

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» Thanks.
>> What's that?

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» Ryan's going to want to kiss you again.
>> Yeah, yeah, next year.

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» Yeah.

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» What's that?

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Yeah.

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» You got it.
>> You didn't have to.

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» You made me feel welcome.

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» This is my office.
>> Let's switch this.

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» Oh, really?
>> So you can switch it.

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» What's the difference?
>> I think I brought my old stuff in here.

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» Hey, my old stuff is actually looking
good.

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» We should have
>> I don't know what you're talking about.

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There's fans on.
>> I know.

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» I thought it was
>> How long was it?

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» It was about 45 minutes.
>> Yeah.

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» I think that little off me.
>> It is like

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» Unfortunately
>> I think people are now 900 and 20

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dollars.

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» What about the
>> What if taste there?

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» I have to leave.
That's a very short period of time.

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And like that's like regular retirement.
>> So that's all for

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» Somewhere

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I should get some pictures
>> That's a 401K.

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That's a 401K.

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» Is there a final for 2017?
>> We'll answer that

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» Oh, yeah.
>> as soon as we get back in the session.

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» The assessed value was 19670.
Okay, what do you want to count for

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» If you found it, I would like to see a
copy before I write it down cuz I don't

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know if

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» Can you make a copy of the last one,
please?

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» One for everybody?
>> Yes, please.

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» That's good.

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» [cough and clears throat]

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» Okay, recess is extended. We're resuming
meeting um

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in the middle of the budget hearing at
this moment. And the question came up

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about the GAAP. Um
that waiver is uh we looked at the

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several the last several several several
that have been done, and it is done in

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December of each year for that year.

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» But yours I mean if we don't
if we don't pass it,

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we cannot pass the budget without me
without it having a resolution,

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the waiver. And so, it's and we have to
pass it or it sits the budget sits as it

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is.
>> Okay, the GAAP

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is passed each year in December
for the current year.

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» Well, I mean
Cuz it cuz the budget is not complete

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as right now cuz it does not have the
new Geo bond on it and it doesn't have a

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water raise on it.
So, the budget is not complete.

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Cuz we've already done the water raise.
This is

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» Okay, so the budget itself is separate
from the GAAP.

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Which is an accounting process.
>> Well, it's

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» And the GAAP is passed every year for
that year in December.

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» Uh-huh.
>> Now, the budget itself um

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grants uh it does not have
those two items that were just added um

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not even added yet because the loan
hasn't processed fully.

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The Geo bond has not processed fully yet
for it.

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» You've reached the cell phone of Jeff
Dean with Longview School. Please leave

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your name, number, and a brief message
unless this is about a traffic or the

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prosecution
and this is about one of those matters,

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00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,160
please leave your message at my office.
The number there is 816-525-7881,

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extension 13. Thank you.

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» At the tone, please record your message.
When you've finished recording, you may

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hang up or press one for more options.
>> Praise the Lord, this is Matthew Young,

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mayor of Pleasanton, and we are in the
meeting in the middle of the budget

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hearing and we have a legal question for
you. If you could please give me a call.

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417-846-3674.

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Thank you.
God bless.

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» [snorts]
>> Okay, other than the new geo bonds and

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the water rate increase that is not
showing on this budget that will one

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will cancel the other out within that.
Uh

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anybody want to speak into the budget as
far as the hearing portion goes?

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Seeing that there are no speakers in
regards to the 2027 budget hearing, um I

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will declare the hearing portion closed.

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And move towards
um

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the resolution for the city council to
look at as far as exceeding revenue

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neutral rates.

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» So, what do you need us to do?
>> Um what we need a motion to adopt

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resolution 479 to exceed revenue neutral
rates.

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» Do we want to do that before we have
clarification?

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» Um
>> Okay. I can't find anywhere in the

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Cannabis Statute that states this has to
be done immediately.

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» The what?
>> The GAAP needs to be done immediately.

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» The GAAP? The GAAP is is done at the end
of each year.

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Yeah, it's done annually. Uh it's
typically the It just needs to be done

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before the
the audit is done.

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Because the audit will be based on
whether it's done in accordance to GAAP

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or if the GAAP
regulations have been waived. The city

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our size typically waives those because
we don't have any assets expenditure

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balance that's done in an form of
accounting that way. We typically have

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the audit that is then done and
presented.

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So, in in respect to I do understand
that in this budget that is before

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everybody, it does not show the water
rate increase and it does not show the

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new geo bond that we do not have in in
fullness yet.

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Um
I'm not sure to what degree that would

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play on the budget itself
since

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if we did pass this budget now and got
the geo bond in October or November, it

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would still apply to the following year
and not be within the scope of the

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budget itself. Whether that means coming
around and having to present a new

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budget with those alterations that
really covered their own expenses or not

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would be something that we would need
clarification on itself. As far as the

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rest of the budget, I don't know that we
have any issue with continuing forward

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with it.

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» [clears throat]

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» But we don't know if that's going to
make a difference.

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» It won't raise our mill rate.
>> It won't raise.

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» It won't change the mill levy because
the water rates change changes the

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internal water rates and does not affect
the mills at all since none of the mills

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go towards the water.
>> So our revenue neutral was 84.005.

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» Yes.
>> Um last year the mill levy was 88.163.

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And this year it's going to be 87.284.

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So
it's actually come down from last year.

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» Yes.
>> No, your values have gone up.

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» Um and and therein lies the thing itself
because the the mill levy last year was

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88. Uh this this for this year 88. And
we're looking at for 2027's

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um 87, which seems like it goes down.
But if you go back

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five or six years, the the levy rate was
90 and people were paying less

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because the problem or the difference is
is people's valuation is going up.

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» It's almost a 30% increase.
>> Yes.

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» Just the proposed.
>> And that's been the biggest issue. We

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talked to the county because the city
does not set the value of your property.

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Uh people that work for the county do.
The people that work for the county are

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given uh she's hiding.
>> [laughter]

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00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,680
» The people that work for the county
there are given um

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00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:56,400
a list of what they're supposed to look
at, how they're supposed to look at, and

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00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:01,280
how they're supposed to evaluate these
things. And apart from knocking on every

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00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:06,960
door and walking into every house, they
have to assess from the way it looks and

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seems, the way the the the layout of it
is from the outside, the approximate

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square footage of it, what buildings you
have, what other structures you have on

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it, and all those things they mark off
their list, and they put all that

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together, and they take it back, and put
all that into the computer, and the

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00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:27,640
computer says,
"Estimated value." And it it's just

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skyrocketing. Um I myself know that from
1985 to 2025,

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the prices or the valuation of homes has
gone up over 300%.

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Meanwhile, the the income that people
make is only gone up 53%.

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Uh that's a terrible thing, and it is
statewide, it is countrywide, and it's

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00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:52,160
terrible.
And it's one of those cases we can't

453
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:56,800
blame the people that are doing the
the valuations because they are hired

454
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,520
for a job to say, "How big is it? What
is there?

455
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:05,040
Etc. etc." They do that, and then it
spits out Uh it's it is really on a

456
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:08,720
state level that this is coming all the
way down to us is what those evaluations

457
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:14,440
are.
Uh what we do have control over here as

458
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:20,400
much as possible is the the budget of
the city and what we need to operate,

459
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:25,440
and that is getting even more difficult
because just like you know, everything

460
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:29,760
is going up in cost. And when it costs
more to fix things, more money is needed

461
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:34,040
to fix things, and that becomes just a
big long

462
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,800
process. I remember back when they were
saying that they wanted to pay

463
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:41,920
McDonald's workers $15 an hour, and they
could do that by raising the price of a

464
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,800
cheeseburger 15 cents.
The problem with raising the price of a

465
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,360
cheeseburger 15 cents is everybody
before the cheeseburger wants 15 cents

466
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:54,120
raised also, and that made our
cheeseburger from 67 cents to I think

467
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:59,800
it's $3 now. Um
so just budget-wise, I know that is a

468
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:04,480
very difficult thing within itself,
and we're trying to do our best to cut.

469
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:09,520
I mean, I know this council sat here
toiling over a lot of it to cut as much

470
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:14,440
as possible and trim down and
continuously saying we've got to get it

471
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,960
lower. And we're not done because
setting the budget doesn't mean we're

472
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:21,160
going to spend every dime of that,
either. We want to continue to look at

473
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:25,400
every department and cut all the
unnecessary things from those

474
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:31,440
departments as we can. Um even if we
look at prior years, uh the police

475
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:35,640
department for 2020 um five was un- went
under budget, which is good. That's what

476
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,440
we want. Each department that comes in
at the end of the year under budget,

477
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,320
that's what we want because that was
money that wasn't spent and didn't have

478
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:47,080
to be spent.
Um giving us positions to be able to

479
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,280
change some of that a little bit more.
I hope that helps.

480
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:54,640
» Have you looked at
having the sh- SO

481
00:46:52,800 --> 00:47:01,120
provide police
for Pleasanton instead of Pleasanton?

482
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,920
We do it in Miami County.
>> As far as what?

483
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,560
» We the sheriff's office
>> Uh-huh.

484
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:13,120
» takes over the policing
for a city.

485
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:19,080
But the the city pays the sh- SO to do
it and typically it's a lot less than

486
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:23,000
having your own agency.
>> It can be. Um I can tell you that that

487
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:27,800
is one of the things that's um is
currently being looked into to see what

488
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:32,080
the value of that actually would be.
>> Cuz you got to have prior police you

489
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,160
want to have citizens or businesses.
>> Yeah.

490
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,400
» Right?
>> Yeah.

491
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,600
» And so
>> So I know that's um everyone that sits

492
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:44,200
up here on the governing body has been
looking into every potential in every

493
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:49,400
way at trying to come up with a better
way to do a lot of things to in-

494
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:52,200
decrease the taxes because none of us
want to be taxed more than we have to

495
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,960
be.
>> Right.

496
00:47:52,560 --> 00:48:00,680
» I agree with that. I think the biggest
problem that we all have is that we have

497
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,280
the highest taxes in the municipality.
And we are seeing the least.

498
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:08,360
» Yes.
>> That is why everybody is so upset. I

499
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:14,720
mean, my taxes personally went from the
day that I moved in, $530

500
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:17,320
to over $2,400
for a two-bedroom home.

501
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,000
» Yeah.
>> How is that okay?

502
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,920
» I feel I feel your pain. I've lived here
for 12 years.

503
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:29,200
And I own a house up on 706 Main, right
on Main Street. And my taxes have gone

504
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:33,360
up just like everybody else's. And
believe me,

505
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:38,400
all of us sitting here, we understand
it. I mean, but the county imposes what

506
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,520
they impose on all of us. And I mean,
our ain't the highest, too.

507
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,840
» But why are ours the highest? Why is
Pleasanton key

508
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:48,080
» That's something we need to take up with
the state because the state handles that

509
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,360
stuff down here.
>> That sounds like it would be city if

510
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,080
it's the city that's the highest.
So

511
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,600
» But the state tax for every city is
equal.

512
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:59,960
» It doesn't change. It needs to be
reviewed.

513
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,440
» Right. But they impose it to the county
and the county hands out the

514
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,224
» Right.
>> Can I add to that? Mayor, I asked

515
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,244
somebody So
>> [clears throat and cough]

516
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,320
» So, how it works is like we come to your
house and working as the appraiser's

517
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,680
office, we come and we measure your
house, we measure everything you have

518
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:22,360
outside, and then we take it back. Like
he said, we put it in the computer and

519
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:26,000
it does that. And so then it spits out
an evaluation, your assessed value of

520
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,720
whatever your house is. So, you have a
$100,000 house, just saying. You know

521
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,480
what I mean? Like anybody, okay, you
have a $100,000 house, and then you

522
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:37,640
times that by the mill levy, which the
mill levy isn't just based on what

523
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:43,440
they're doing up here, it also comes
from the school. It also comes from part

524
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:47,120
of the county. And so it's like
The part of that is is like

525
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:50,960
I mean, if you're not asking all the
questions to my office, like it's just

526
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:55,240
overall everybody. Like if you're not
coming in like, why is my property

527
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,600
assessed at this value? And I do.
>> Yeah, no, and I know that. You know,

528
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:02,120
like, you can't say that, but like, if
you're not coming and doing that, like,

529
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,760
you know, but that's like the next step
of help there, like

530
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:10,720
» Unfortunately, like, we don't know if we
can't go down much lower or we won't

531
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:14,600
have a town. But, like, the assessed
values

532
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,720
There's like a thing that
the county does and they

533
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:21,280
my office does.
Like, they'll look over like the whole

534
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:26,080
thing and like, what's going on with the
water right now? Like, does she need to

535
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:30,200
reassess the value of Pleasanton, the
whole town and the

536
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:34,520
big poll to see if the values need to
come down.

537
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:38,400
So, it's definitely something that like
everybody needs to start asking, like,

538
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:40,880
why are our assessed values so high or
when we don't have anything to show for

539
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,800
it?
>> Yes, but Pleasanton's city millage is

540
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:49,560
one of the highest
>> It is one of the highest, yes.

541
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,840
But, it also comes with
our school.

542
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,360
» Yes, I agree.
>> so it's

543
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,760
unfortunately, all of that.
>> As I said, I'm going to need a revenue

544
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,000
neutral here.
>> No, I agree. No, I agree. 100%.

545
00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:04,720
» [clears throat]
>> Everybody is wanting to raise it the

546
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:09,840
revenue neutral that was put in place to
help

547
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:12,400
property taxes not go up, but when
>> Yes.

548
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,240
But, assessed values
>> keep raising it, the revenue neutral

549
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:21,200
does no good.
>> Yes, and it's also assessed values what

550
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,200
the county does.

551
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,320
Help into that.

552
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:40,040
» You guys might not be able to answer the
question. Does Power Great

553
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:44,400
Stop. Wait, wait a minute.
Power Great Lakes Inc. I thought

554
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:48,160
their taxes were split up between the
three for all the counties.

555
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:51,120
» Just waiting for Just waiting to see
what it is.

556
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,200
» Just waiting to see what it is.
No, [snorts] it's not true.

557
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,160
» No, it's not true.
>> It's not true.

558
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,840
» No, I thought it was supposed to go to
each city

559
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,840
of the county.

560
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,400
» That's not true. That basically what
gets what gets the from the power plant

561
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:10,640
is where it used to go to the county.
And then and then the whole county

562
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:15,040
Lacygne does not get any money from the
power plant.

563
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:19,160
Uh their not even their hospital board
as a dollar comes.

564
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:22,440
Uh but it's all you know, it's Lacygne
power plant does not give any money to

565
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,080
Lacygne
or Linn Valley.

566
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,280
» Just to the county.
>> Just to the county.

567
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:33,960
» Thank you. Right, with that
so we got that. What about the Casey's

568
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,840
here in town and the Ford dealership is
that do they pay Linn County or

569
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Pleasanton?
>> Pleasanton.

570
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,880
» Are they in Pleasanton?
>> Yes.

571
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,880
Yeah.

572
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:52,640
» Yeah, I mean is that revenue
revenue that could be generated us by

573
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:56,800
annexing those properties?
I'm just asking.

574
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,800
» I think they're already in the city.

575
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:04,120
» They're in the city?
>> Yeah, they're already inside Pleasanton.

576
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,880
» Okay.
>> They're inside city limits.

577
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,600
» Okay, good.
Then tell them to sell them to us.

578
00:53:09,886 --> 00:53:14,680
» [laughter]
>> And I was going to actually mention that

579
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:18,120
too. One of the things that some of the
other cities around us they have more

580
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:24,360
businesses which means they generate
more tax revenue from sales tax. Without

581
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:29,040
that then we're left needing more mill
levies to equal the same tax rate or

582
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:32,480
amount. So that makes us ask for more
mill levies because we don't have as

583
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:36,480
many businesses generating that sales
tax. I would like to see more

584
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,520
businesses. The problem is is a lot of
the businesses that would like to come

585
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:44,840
in they go, oh wow, look at the the mill
levy tax is too high. Well, yes, but if

586
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:49,187
you would come in, we could lower it
because you would generate sales.

587
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,920
Uh so, it's kind of a
>> [clears throat]

588
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,480
» So, so if you all adopt
>> vicious cross-fixing.

589
00:53:51,160 --> 00:54:00,160
» If you all adopt this resolution,
does that mean what we actually pay out

590
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,160
of our pocket is going to be more?

591
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,600
» What What do you mean?
>> Are we actually going to be paying more

592
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,200
money in tax if you all adopt the city
of Pleasant, if you all adopt this

593
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:14,240
resolution?
>> Okay, so right now the current revenue

594
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:20,120
neutral rate is set at 84.05.
Uh we're looking at 87.284,

595
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:25,480
which is really a three
$3 per the thousand, $3.27 or $3.28

596
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:28,240
$3.28
more per the thousand valuation of your

597
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,360
home.
>> So, is that a yes we will be paying

598
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,280
» That would be more than the revenue
neutral rate, yes, by $3 per the

599
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:40,480
thousand.
>> Combined with the valuation increase,

600
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,480
this is going to be about almost 13%.

601
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:51,840
» More than last year, it would be $3.27
more

602
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,960
per thousand valuation.
>> thousand

603
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,320
» Yes.
>> That is $3.

604
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:02,040
» But your valuations But your valuations
have taken about a 7% increase.

605
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,080
» So, the
Do what?

606
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,080
» Your valuations have taken with this
increase.

607
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:13,280
» Yes.
>> Property valuations have gone up.

608
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:18,200
And by the time you take that with the
numbers you're talking about, it's it's

609
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:23,720
almost a 13% increase.
>> It It really wouldn't be. So, revenue

610
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:30,200
neutral rate, the 84.005
is equal to last year's valuation at 88

611
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:35,880
mills.
So, where last year the city got 88

612
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,880
mills, 88.163,

613
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:46,120
the equal amount of taxes for city taxes
that you would pay

614
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:51,160
um would have paid at 88.163,
the equal amount to that for this coming

615
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:54,000
year would be 84.005 [clears throat]
mill levy rate.

616
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:59,680
» I understand what you're saying, but
you're doing the

617
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:06,120
that's like an apple and an orange.
That's like I have 11 fingers, 10 9 8 7

618
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:10,400
6 and 5 is 11. It doesn't work that way.
And so by taking this increase over

619
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:14,600
here,
and your mill levy rate changing,

620
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:20,480
» And
>> you're picking up this value plus the

621
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:25,480
mill levy rate. If you If you kept it at
100,000 and did that to the mill levy

622
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,960
rate, I'm not screaming.
But this one up

623
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,800
» Yeah.
>> almost 9%

624
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:37,520
right?
And cumulatively, when you take the mill

625
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,720
levy, it's almost a 13% increase.
>> Net.

626
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,074
» It wouldn't be.
Um because the exact

627
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,960
Okay, now here's here's
>> [laughter]

628
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:51,680
» Um the way the revenue neutral rate
works is the total valuation for the

629
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:55,000
city
>> Oh, I see what you're saying.

630
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:59,840
» went up. That includes everybody's
house.

631
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:03,800
So to pay the exact same amount
revenue So revenue neutral rate for the

632
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,760
total valuation for the city was right
here.

633
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:11,560
So this is the revenue neutral rate.
This is how much money we got last year.

634
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:15,400
If we keep it at that exact at the
revenue neutral rate, we would get the

635
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,080
exact same amount of money.
>> Mhm.

636
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:23,320
» Okay? Not everybody will get the same
tax bill because even though the the

637
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:29,680
city went up
a certain percent, each individual house

638
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:33,240
changed in that percentage increase
also.

639
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:37,240
And that's where you're saying that you
have that difference there because your

640
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:42,520
evaluation went up different than
somebody else's valuation.

641
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:46,120
But overall, to go above revenue neutral
rate, really from the amount that was

642
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:52,680
taken in last year
of the at revenue neutral rates,

643
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,520
we're talking about a $31,000 increase
to the [clears throat] city budget for

644
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:59,000
next year
from this year.

645
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:02,480
Uh that 30 $31,000 is all the budget's
going up.

646
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,480
Uh

647
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:09,960
that's almost frightening
because if you consider uh

648
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:15,880
the cost of living increase, any type of
pay increase, or anything else, $31,000

649
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:19,840
is not really enough to cover it.
Um

650
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:25,000
so, but the council uh
has been working really hard to try to

651
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:29,600
get that down to as low as possible
for that. But I do understand, it is it

652
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:34,240
is your increased property uh then the
mill levy

653
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:36,160
increase, $3 and something more per
uh

654
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:42,680
mill
on that valuation.

655
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,680
Which is an interesting

656
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:52,320
math equation in itself because the
total value of your property uh times

657
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:55,920
you would 11% of that is how many mills,
then you divide that by 1,000, and then

658
00:58:54,320 --> 00:59:00,040
you take that number, and you multiply
it by the mills, and that's what you pay

659
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,040
taxes on.

660
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,240
So,
is that

661
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:09,120
» Yes, so everybody's assessed values are
different. Nobody's assessed values are

662
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,960
the same. Even if you have a 100,000
square foot house, and you have a

663
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:16,520
100,000 square foot square foot house,
and you have a 1,500 15,000 square foot

664
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:20,280
house, both of theirs could be lower if
your house is not

665
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,280
up to par of what theirs are, and it
just unfortunately has nothing to do

666
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,400
with you guys, it has all to do with the
county.

667
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,240
» Yeah.
>> Yeah, and do you look at

668
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:35,160
the
ex- the assessed valuation

669
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:38,640
proposed or actual, it's changing by a
lot.

670
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:43,320
» Almost 5%
>> is from 9.26

671
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:47,800
9,260
to 9,725. [clears throat]

672
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,240
On total valuation, you can see it's
Pleasanton.

673
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,600
» Yes.
>> Well,

674
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,520
so
>> the mayor would have to speak into the

675
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:58,080
sales tax kind of wideness, but the
difference there.

676
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,120
» That's fine. We'll just go with the
bosses and

677
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,720
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

678
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:05,840
» Mhm.
>> Yeah, there's a lot of calculations that

679
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,680
go into this in so many different
fashions on everything.

680
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,800
» But they didn't have sales tax
in those years.

681
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,800
» So,

682
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,920
yeah, the other thing is is the city of
Pleasanton does have the consolidated

683
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:22,160
streets
on top of that. A lot of the other

684
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:28,360
cities will only have the one, which our
general mill levy is 62.991,

685
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:32,040
and then the consolidated streets tax is
the 24.293,

686
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:37,040
uh
which I'm still looking to try to find

687
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:41,360
exactly when that was introduced.
Uh in in further looking at some of what

688
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,800
I had understood,
>> I found that. I'll I'll get you a copy

689
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,840
of that.
>> Okay.

690
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:51,720
» And no other city has that. It's uh
Pleasanton's the only one that has it.

691
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:55,480
» Yeah, cuz my original understanding of
that being introduced in '95 wasn't the

692
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,680
case. '95 introduced the first sales
tax,

693
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,800
1%.
>> So, consolidated streets.

694
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,840
» So, consolidated streets was would have
been sometime

695
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,000
back there.
Uh

696
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,400
Which is probably Which is probably, you
know, squaring off some time and coming

697
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,200
and going through all of the ordinances
and

698
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,800
and and everything for that.
>> What did you say, Michael?

699
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:23,160
» It'd be easier to chew a little bit if
the roads in the are some

700
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Our roads or infrastructure
>> We're trying

701
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,760
» in very good shape.

702
01:01:27,037 --> 01:01:29,057
» [cough]

703
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:35,880
» As soon as we can see some changes, we
would probably get on the truck.

704
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:39,680
» I mean, I know for me looking at that,
it's kind of like, okay, this has been

705
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:43,600
on here for how many years now. There's
no reason our roads should have been

706
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:48,680
allowed to get to what they are. And
unfortunately, we can't change how we

707
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:52,760
got here, but we can change from here
moving forward, which is why we are

708
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:56,840
working a plan of action and this is
governing. I mean, this this council has

709
01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:01,080
already released some funds to start
working on getting the streets fixed and

710
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:05,000
so forth. And I'm really looking forward
to seeing that unfold instead of it's

711
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:09,960
coming, it's coming, it's coming. The
KDOT grant for for for one has been it's

712
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:14,320
coming, it's coming, it's coming, but
there is a lot involved in that KDOT

713
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:18,800
grant and everything.
And [music] we're taking bids right now

714
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:23,640
for that. So, if anybody's watching or
anything, please get on

715
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:28,880
get the bid specs, put in a bid for the
KDOT grant that will do action

716
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:33,080
Cedar. I feel that is kind of budget
related because that's money going out

717
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,080
for

718
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:43,120
I'm not sure when it exactly is going to
start off hand.

719
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:45,800
But, the bids are open through end of
October.

720
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:53,280
So, right now they're looking at
finalizing the bids, then we'll process

721
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:57,080
the council the council will vote on
which bid to go with and they're looking

722
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,040
at a spring start for that for my
understanding.

723
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:04,960
So,
the the other ones, the overlay thing

724
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,360
and some of this extra money that's I
mean, that's been released from the

725
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:12,040
council already to start going out for
that. The overlay people, they're

726
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:17,720
wanting to start in October.
So, as long as everything goes through

727
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,720
with that thing.

728
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,160
Yeah.
The the

729
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,920
» like to start as soon as possible with
that.

730
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,200
Yes. So
>> I talked to him today.

731
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,560
» Yeah.
Last time I told him he talked to him he

732
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,840
was going, "I want to start by at least
October. You know, what do we need to do

733
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:39,720
to make this happen?" I'm like, "Let's
Let's Let's do that." So

734
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:43,680
I'm hoping that as we see those things
unfold people will will get excited and

735
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:48,840
go, "Okay, yes, I'm seeing results
here." With that

736
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:52,440
but budgets are difficult. I mean,
everybody here knows that. You have your

737
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,840
own budget that you're trying to
juggle.

738
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:58,120
» So will they overlay? Do they come
through and actually tear up and put

739
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,040
overlay on top of it?
>> They'll mill it out and then they'll

740
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,760
mill it down to a certain level and then
they'll put a

741
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,560
layer on top.
>> Yeah.

742
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,800
Um you're talking about businesses like
I don't know if that's something I need

743
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:14,640
to come back next week and ask you
about, but can you do something for

744
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:18,080
taxes like hey, we can
we do we give a tax break? I was like,

745
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:21,800
can we do a tax break to like start
advertising businesses to come cuz I

746
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,400
know it's a huge part of it. Like
We don't really

747
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,760
» How are the streets or towns?
>> We

748
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:30,040
» business
>> Yeah. We we own the land out by the

749
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:34,600
highway and it's like the land out by
the highway sits and

750
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:38,960
» There There is a tax incentive program
for new businesses coming into town

751
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:43,560
and there's a complete list of how
that's broken out and everything in its

752
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:48,000
own special book in the clerk's office
that if anybody is wanting to know how

753
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,880
that exactly works, we'd be happy to
get it out and sit down with them and

754
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:55,360
kind of show them what that tax
incentive is. Now, we do remind people

755
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:59,520
that is the city of Pleasanton tax
incentive. It's It's not county and

756
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:04,600
everything else, but I knew do
understand that a new business to Linn

757
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,520
County may be able to have the same
opportunity for tax incentives with the

758
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:12,560
county. They just have to file that with
the county and talk to them on it.

759
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:18,240
» County has
enterprise zone.

760
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,240
That should help you right there.

761
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:24,800
» So that's
doesn't increase the city budget right

762
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:29,240
off the bat, but if it establishes a
good business and they stay, then it

763
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:32,520
does eventually produce that revenue
that is needed for the city.

764
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:39,960
Anything else from the council wise on
any of that?

765
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:45,560
Do we have a motion to adopt the
resolution 479 to exceed revenue neutral

766
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,560
rates?

767
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:10,000
» I'd like to make a motion to adopt
resolution number 479.

768
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:24,280
» Motion is made to adopt resolution
number 479 to exceed the revenue neutral

769
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:27,160
rate for 2027.
Is there a second?

770
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,440
» I second.

771
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,320
» It's been moved and seconded.

772
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,880
» Um

773
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:24,080
» Okay, for all those in favor, we'll do a
roll call vote, please.

774
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,240
» Michelle?
Um

775
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,840
Yeah.
John?

776
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,960
» Yeah.
>> Alex?

777
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,240
» Yeah.
>> Danny?

778
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,520
» Yeah.
>> Kenny?

779
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,520
» Yes.

780
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,200
» Resolution passes.

781
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,160
Moving on to the budget for 2027.

782
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:52,240
Everything here is in accordance to our
last budget work session.

783
01:08:53,799 --> 01:09:01,759
Everything is before you all.
Is there a motion to accept the 2027

784
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,759
budget?

785
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:07,680
» Can the budget be amended?
Um it goes to include the geo and the

786
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:13,799
and the water rates.
>> Um we can come back later and amend that

787
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:18,799
for the the budget in itself. Um I'm not
sure how that would work doing trying to

788
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:25,440
do that at this moment.
But we can pass this budget and if need

789
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:29,279
be come back and amend the budget
to that. As far as mill levy itself

790
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:32,759
portion of this budget, it wouldn't
adjust that or change it at all.

791
01:09:44,839 --> 01:09:51,759
» And do we have to notify the um
the county and stuff that we're going to

792
01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:56,880
amend the budget?
>> Um the problem with

793
01:09:53,839 --> 01:10:00,680
um amending the budget itself is we do
not have

794
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:04,840
another geo bond that can go in this
budget right now in front of us because

795
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,440
the geo bond has not been issued.
>> But when it is issued, that's what I'm

796
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,840
asking.
>> After it's issued, um we could we would

797
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:15,760
be able to amend the budget and that
would be a whole process again. We would

798
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:22,080
have to notify the people of the amended
budget, have another hearing regarding

799
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:27,040
it and do all of those steps to it. Um
as far as getting this to where it needs

800
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:31,760
to be to the county and everything else,
we only have until the 20th of this

801
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:36,560
month. Uh since the geo bond wouldn't be
even issued to us until after the 15th

802
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:41,560
of this month, we would not have enough
time to be able to present this and get

803
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:45,480
it all to the state uh to the county and
to the state before the 20th. So we

804
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:50,840
would have to come back after that.
>> I thought it was October 1st.

805
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:56,000
» It is the the hearings and everything
have to be done between August 20th and

806
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,000
September 20th.

807
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:04,480
» And then it we when we um
>> Yeah.

808
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:08,480
» And when we amend the um
ordinance of the jail we also put on the

809
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:12,680
water rates, too.
>> Yeah, we could could do all that at the

810
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,680
same time.

811
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:20,880
Cuz those items wouldn't affect the
millage portion of the budget. It would

812
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:24,760
just affect the water portion of the
budget.

813
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:27,200
And what our total indebted indebtedness
is.

814
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:51,280
» Now this
>> Well, I'm not sure if I'm comfortable

815
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:54,680
with passing something when we don't
have all the numbers in there.

816
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:03,240
» And this and this number right here the
proposal will change from 4,000 to a

817
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:07,440
higher number, right?
>> On what?

818
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,440
» On page 15.

819
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:17,600
Where it says 24,000 budget.
From 24,000 it will change

820
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:20,080
because of the jail bond.
Am I being clear?

821
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,160
With the jail bond revenue.

822
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,360
» Are you going to put 4 million
>> The what?

823
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,400
» Are you Are you going to put 4 million
in?

824
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:38,880
» It'll
It'll raise it with the the new jail

825
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,880
bond in there.

826
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,280
» Yes, expenditures would raise because
the in- income would raise.

827
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:13,840
» So what's the energy of one?
How much is that?

828
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,840
Do you know?
>> 345,000

829
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:37,840
And the way the water rate increase was
calculated,

830
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:43,920
it was calculated to completely cover
the geo bond and cover a deficit in the

831
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:47,680
water department as was expected based
on expenditures this far this year.

832
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:59,400
» So, after we get those numbers and they
can be added in here, then we can go

833
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:02,760
back and amend
this budget.

834
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:05,120
» Yes, which
uh

835
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,520
» And we've talked to legal counsel
>> And

836
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:11,880
» do that.
>> So, we contacted the

837
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,880
um

838
01:15:12,440 --> 01:15:18,400
the loan people to ask them how that
works because we don't have the geo bond

839
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:22,400
yet, so therefore we cannot include it
in this budget. Uh once it is, then that

840
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:28,160
would be an amending of the budget that
would be needed to cover it at that

841
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:32,880
point. Uh but as far as uh being able to
do that before our deadline, we would

842
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:37,920
not be able to. But as far as going back
and amending it, we could do that.

843
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:42,640
Because city budgets aren't impossible
to amend, there are regulations and

844
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,600
processes to do that with.
Um

845
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:48,760
which is what we would have to do in
this case, just on where we are with

846
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:52,120
getting that geo bonds and how it falls
time progress.

847
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,520
» And we won't be in violation?
>> No.

848
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,760
» Or illegal?
>> No.

849
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:21,440
» And you said it won't be installed after
October when we get the geo the new geo

850
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:25,360
bond?
>> It's supposed to process sometime at the

851
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:29,200
end of this month.
>> So, this is September?

852
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:32,920
» Mid mid to end of September, yes.
But once it processes and we're able to

853
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:37,800
put the numbers in and activate the
water increase um which would be going

854
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:41,400
on for October,
um

855
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:46,040
where we'd be past the deadline to be
able to redo the budget, which is why we

856
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:49,680
do need to go ahead and pass this budget
and seek for an amendment once we have

857
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:53,880
all of that extra
numbers, geo bonds, licenses, and so

858
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,880
forth.

859
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:05,440
» I make a motion to go ahead and adopt
the budget for 2021.

860
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:12,480
» I second.
>> It's been moved and seconded to adopt

861
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:16,800
the 2017 budget. If we could by roll
call, please.

862
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,800
» Rochelle

863
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:35,240
Yeah. Billy
>> No.

864
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,960
» Alex
>> Yeah.

865
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,680
» Sandy
>> Yes.

866
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,120
» Kenny
>> Yeah.

867
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,080
» It is adopted.

868
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:56,880
And then as soon as we get all that
other information, I will get all of

869
01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:02,920
that together
and to you all and at the same time get

870
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:08,000
the procedure that we would need to go
through to do that which needs done.

871
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,160
I'll go ahead and pass this.

872
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,840
Just write your name and then

873
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:30,240
» Now, finally, as is all things for
tonight, I would entertain a motion for

874
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,480
adjournment.
>> I'll make a motion to adjourn.

875
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:41,554
» So moved and seconded. All in favor?
We're adjourned.

876
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,574
Thank you everybody for coming.
>> [clears throat]