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Last meeting of 2024, would y'all stand and rise and join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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A pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and a to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation, another, that, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Do you need a roll call?

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Chesmic.

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Here. Nelson.

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Finer.

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Here. Willis.

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Gregor. Here.

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Peterson. Here.

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Here. Now brings us to the planet forum.

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Individuals may address the counts about any item not contained on the regular agenda.

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Maximum 15 minutes is allotted for the forum.

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If the full 15 minutes are not needed for the forum, the city council will continue with the agenda.

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City Council will take no official action on items discussed at the forum with the exception of a referral to staff or commission or committee for future report.

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I have several cards. First of all, I have three that do not indicate what the person wants to talk about is Scott Johnson here.

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Scott, did you want to talk at the forum or about another subject? You didn't put anything on here.

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at the forum. Thank you. Alexander Bellus.

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Okay, you're the applicant. Yeah, for item eight point one and Mike Misk.

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Number eight. Okay. Thank you.

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Then we all start out with Mr. Scott Johnson one six four two all.

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a third avenue north 15 420 got it. Thank you. Sorry my no up if he gets

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the best of them. I'm on a fight Mr. Mayor City Council for the beautiful job

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you did by putting the roundabouts I'm probably not having it. I've been a

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resident of this city since 1968. I've seen a lot of changes. When I lived here

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there was nothing here. This was farmland. There was nothing north of 55. So you

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can see how much the city has grown in the years. And I applaud you guys for

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doing that work. Now, one other step, can we teach the drivers how to use that?

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I should be up to the state, actually. And then we have a DMV right over here. When I

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I'm against them closed circuit, zipper merge don't work because they don't test

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person merging. So why do they teach it? They don't even teach it in the driving

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school because I have to know to do the pass of customer who sold it in this

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parking car.

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Let's be real. I'm a real boss. That's the reality of our driving

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system. We do all this fancy work to make driving easier, but we don't train people how to

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drive. I work out a race track.

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I see cars. I have cars coming at me at 100 miles an hour.

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I know what to do. These people are professional drivers. I would like to get with the chief

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this winter, and plow a little track on Parker's late, so his officers could, I used

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to work with the double IRA ice race, so his officers could learn how to handle the

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vehicle in the snow, or it will not concrete that thing in the summertime doesn't mimic

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ice. Teach them on the way, show them how to control their cars and they will be better

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when they are in chasing a suspect. And as far as chasing suspects, they have this neat

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device nowadays called Star Tracer. You get behind the vehicle, you push a button, shoot

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attracting the vice-honda of the vehicle, guess what? You don't have to chase them anymore.

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You don't have to go 100 miles an hour through the presidential neighborhoods.

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Stuff that the police department should look into.

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Pet maneuvers are unsafe. Put drivers at risk. We're on no fault state.

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So the police officer pips a vehicle and that vehicle hits another car, that other-

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The car, they're screwed. We're in no fault state. They get nothing.

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But I really thank you for fixing the roads and plumber. They've come a long way. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Johnson. We appreciate the comments. Yeah, people will learn roundabouts eventually. It might take a little bit.

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The next we have Steve Japs from 4-5-7-0, Westin Lane, North.

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Welcome back. It's been a while.

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It has been a while.

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I was tired. I figured, for kind of the year end, I'd go and take a look at the

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show, share some of that with you.

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We had the warmest January to November period on the U.S. did on record, which sets up a sizable chance that this year will be the hottest year in the U.S. history based on the 130 years that Noah has been collecting data.

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six states, Maine, Minnesota, Nebraska, Texas, Wisconsin, had their warmest

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autumn sun record.

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And I mean, with the age of that I've got, I can remember when it was much

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colder like right now.

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Anyway, going on, the global CIS extent in October was the smallest in the

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46-year record.

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I mean, that's what you've got out there that's reflecting some of the

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sunshine back in the space. It was one and a quarter million square miles below the

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1991 to 2020 average. The Arctic sea ice extent was below average by 600,000 square miles. The

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Antarctic extent was below average by 650,000 square miles. I mean that's just huge.

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thing. My favorite national park is a glacier national park. It's not going to have any glaciers

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that are pretty soon. So we're not making the progress around climate change that we need

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to make. I think it'd be really cool if Blemoth could actually be a leader in making change

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on that. Thanks. All right. Thank you for the update.

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That's all the cards I have for the

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information announcements. First, we have item 4.1, recognizing our 2024

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Plymouth Environmental Academy attendees. Then.

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Yeah, Mayor and council. Thank you. So tonight, I will turn it over to our

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chair of the Environmental Quality Committee at the theme to say a few words about the 2024

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Academy. We have some folks in the audience who we like to recognize and then take a

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photo potentially with the council. So, Ed,

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thank you. This has been a ongoing process for

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the Environmental Quality Commission then held since 2021 and this year we held four topics

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and those were energy efficiency, rain gardens, solid waste, and this year we made a

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big effort to talk about organics since we started that at the city of Plymouth and Green

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Step Cities, another initiative that the city of Plymouth has taken on. We had between 20 and 25

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attendees that are sessions and that's been increasing over the years. So that's enough for me.

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So I think it's time to recognize the people that were attendees that are sessions.

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So anybody who's here for the Academy won't you come off? I won't take a photo with the Council.

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But this is a list of everybody that signed up and attended at least one of the Academy sessions.

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So like I mentioned we did have 20 to 25 at each session, but we did have quite a few folks

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Somebody hold this, so we're doing a gift with everybody

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you have to get a little closer together there

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I just want to congratulate all of those, everyone who went through our environmental academy this year.

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It's a great program. I would start to believe, council member Gregor, you are there when the program got kicked off in the environmental quality committee.

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You want to say any words?

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Thank you, Mayor, and thank you everyone who attended and joined us tonight. It is a great program going on several years now, and it's great to see it evolving.

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and more people learning about different things that they can do and then the different things

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that our city is doing to work on climate resiliency issues both at home and broader

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around the city.

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Thank you.

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Congratulations again to everyone who participated in the Environmental Academy.

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Next, we will go on an item 4.2 to recognize and present State Farm Kyle that needs

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that NANDS agency and the Plymouth Lions with a plaque for the 2024 Sponsorship for Parks

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and REC.

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We have Paul and Jesse here.

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Good evening, Mayor and Council.

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Just and I are pleased to be here tonight to recognize our 2024 Parks and Recreation

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Platinum Sponsors.

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Because of these two organizations, financial commitments, and their support at our events

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we are able to offer over a dozen free events to the community.

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So we're starting with Kyle Vittens, State Farm Agency.

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Kyle and his team have been sponsoring

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Plymouth events and programming for over six years now.

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If you've been to any of our Plymouth events,

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you've probably recognized their big red state farm tent

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because they rarely miss an opportunity to come out

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and support the community and our event in fun and creative ways.

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And we are very grateful for their support.

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I don't know is Michelle here, oh there you are. Michelle, Michelle beckers with state

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farms here with us tonight, so I'm happy to send that to you.

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All right, our second platinum sponsor for 2024 is the Plum of Lions. This is the second year

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of the Lions of Supportive, our city events. In addition to their sponsorship, they also provide

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a gift card for every veteran who participates in our Veterans Day program, which is really neat.

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So thank you so much to the Lions for their sponsorship and their support of our events. And here

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to accept the plaque are a number of lines members, I think. Behind us, I want to come up.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll come down with.

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Squeeze in here.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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You were the thorn between two rules.

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All right.

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Now we have a couple of council members whose last meeting is this meeting today, so they will be finished after 2024 their turns will be up.

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I'm going to start with council member Catherine Chesnek.

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And I have some comments on each one to read.

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Catherine Chesnek was appointed the council to fellow vacancy on March 26, 2024.

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Catherine jumped on board eager to learn and serve the residents of Plymouth.

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During your time on the Council of Catherine advocated for resident concerns and supported local

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businesses at groundbreaking suburban cuttings.

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She also served on the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission as the Council of

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Coordinating Representative.

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Some notable projects that Catherine was involved with include appointing the first destination

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marketing organization advisory board and establishing the DMO name, Hello Plimeth.

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authorizing Schmidt Woods Park Construction, which we just cut a ribbon on, not too long ago,

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and adopting inclusionary housing.

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City policy, approved the final plan for the Bolivarity at the Predential Site and

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the Supporteing Environmental Stewardship Conference for the community through green-step cities.

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In addition to serving the City of Plenty of Katherine, as a Commissioner on The Basset Creek

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Watershed, since 2019 and has been the Commission chair since 2022 and on the Elm Creek

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Watershed since 2017, as Commissioner vice chair since 2022.

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Thank you, Catherine. On behalf of the City of Plema, I just want to thank you for the time that you've been able to step up and serve the remainder of former council member Davis's term and just thank you for your service to the City of Plema.

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Do you want to say a couple words?

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Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I really want to thank each and everyone of the council members and directors and the incredible staff of Plema for the opportunity to serve.

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I've loved it, I've loved every minute of it.

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This is wonderful work and it's a wonderful city.

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And wanna particularly shout out,

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city manager, Dave Callister,

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I think you do an incredible job just keeping

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all the balls in the air.

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It's like, it's like, it's not a three ring circus.

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It's like a hundred ring circus.

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You do a great job.

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And yeah, thanks to each and every one of you.

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I really appreciate you.

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All right.

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Congratulations.

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Congratulations.

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That's what we're talking about.

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So every council member gets a party in gift.

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So this is a clash of some of the items that during Catherine's term, that she gets

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that we're giving her.

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It was in remembrance of the time you served here.

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Thank you so much.

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All right.

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Congratulations.

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Next, we have a very, the most senior tenured, longest serving council member that's been, that's on this council, Jim Willis.

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He serves as 25 through 2024. He was elected in 2004. I remember I got appointed on the council in 2011.

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And at that point in time, I came on the council.

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Council member Willis was the most junior council member.

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At that time, besides myself.

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Everybody else had more seniority.

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And you are the last of that group that when I came on board,

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that's going to call it a day on the council.

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So I just have some comments here.

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Jim Willis has served the city of Plymouth in varying capacities for more than 50 years,

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including serving as an at large council member since 2005.

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Leading up to the 2024 General Election, Jim decided not to run for the position and step aside

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from the city council.

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In the nearly 20 years he has represented residents on the council, Jim has been involved

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in countless decisions, and has helped shape the direction of the city governance.

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During his tenure, Plymouth has grown by about 10,000 residents, and much of the landscape

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it looks completely different as development continued throughout previously rural areas

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of the city.

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As a city has developed, Plymouth City Council has historically prioritized, offering high-quality

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city services while remaining good stewards of city finances.

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Jim has long been a voice of advocating for the balance of excellent amenities in watching

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the city's pocketbook.

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From city facility expanses major infrastructure projects to developmental growth, Jim has

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Main Congress Center, the bottom line, and the services the city needs.

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Beyond his time on the council, some may not know but Jim was, the city, Plymouth City's

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Mint, Plymouth City Manager from 1971 to 1993, he has also been a member of the Charter

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Commission of Surve for 17 years on the Northwest suburbs, cable communications commission.

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The most family is an instrumental partner in the annual Music and Plymouth Event, which

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from thousands to the heart of Plymouth, each summer to celebrate music and community.

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Jim's Years of Surveys.

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This has benefited the city, its residents and its businesses. He leaves the city council with a positive legacy

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and a host of accomplishments. We're confident that we will continue to see Jim or on Plymouth being an active member of the

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community that he's called home for more than half a century. Just personally want to thank you for your

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commitment, your service, everything you've done for the city. We couldn't more proud of the legacy you've left

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for us to carry on.

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So, just want to thank you.

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Before I turn the mic over to you,

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I'm going to make an exception.

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We typically don't take any public comments

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but we'll make an exception for a former council member

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and state representative Ned Carroll

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who wanted to speak to you

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and I think wish you some well wishes and thank you.

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No, look for partner.

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I just, I couldn't dismiss this meeting.

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This is very bitter, bitter, sweet night for me

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to signal out the end of your tenure,

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but also wishing you the best in your future endeavors.

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And I know there'll be, there'll be many,

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but I wanted to say that, you know,

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you served as a shining example to me,

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and I'm sure countless other council members.

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Just in terms of your dedication to public service,

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and the way you could just digest and agenda

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and break down a budget.

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I learned a lot from you, and it means a great deal

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and I'm going to miss you terribly, I know you're going to be around, but you have, you've

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put the public in servant. And when I run for counsel, people say you're a politician.

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Said, no, I'm a public servant. It's a non-political position. And I take that seriously.

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I've taken that ethic to the legislature. Now, I had to pick a team. But nonetheless,

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I still think of it as public service and serving, you know, everybody and not just my team and I look for common solutions as did you.

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So you've served as a great example to me and I hope I'm sure everyone else on the council as well.

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So I couldn't miss this night and I had to come by and thank you very much for your service and wish you all the best.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Willis?

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Well, I have a few words.

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I told Councillor Willis when you served 20 years, you can have as much time as you want.

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Well, there'll be a coffee break.

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No, quite seriously, though.

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I appreciate the accolades, the good comments, the favorable comments, and the camaraderie.

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But first, I've got a few things that are on my mind.

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I'll say it. I'd be as reasonably brief as I can. But first I have to thank my family.

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White Barbara, my daughters, Millian Lani, all of whom are here with the grandkids

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in their spouses. Because it takes a lot of family support being able to do our jobs as

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council people. Because we've got extra meetings and things. Family calendars get adjusted

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because of our commitments to service.

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And so I need to acknowledge and want to acknowledge

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that dedication that they've shared to me

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to help me do a better job as serving as a council member.

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And beyond that, I need to thank the colleagues

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on the City Council, this City Council,

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and many previous Councils, the Mayor and no to earlier.

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There is plenty of city, the citizens of our community, everybody will serve over the years.

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And as the mayor indicated, I came here in 1971, served the city manager.

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We had lots and lots of council meetings because of development activity at that time,

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very heavy agendas on that front.

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And then more recently, they've been, not only continued all that development, no activity

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and all the new parks and things of that sort of thing.

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It's been a lot of public service and the city councils are integral involved in making

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those kinds of decisions and they have that not only, they're not cutting ribbons all the

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time.

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They sometimes have controversial issues and our city council in my experience and it goes over

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long time. Our council had had very few tiffs over the years that really got into a personal

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nature. Very few. I could lessen one hand. Good council. We worked together civilly. We disagree.

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And I think that's great because we're not rubber stand.

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Members, even though some may think that is the case. The fact is we have independent thoughts, we bring our thoughts together, we talk about things, and we disagree, we disagree, agreeably.

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And so I think all the citizens of Plymouth are blessed by that fact. You can look around and you can see it in the papers, you know, so it's just such as something about another council member and then there's a suit and there's all kinds of newspaper coverage and that sort of thing.

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All detects or need detracts from the ability of people like us and our councils to get our jobs done.

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We do our jobs, the council does, and it does it well.

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Then we have the city staff, our current city manager, Dave,

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Calister, is the exceptional leader.

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And his staff is, I think, probably a second, but not in a twin city metropolitan area, certainly to my knowledge.

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And they work effectively to bring things together to the council, so we can discuss and

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focusing on real substantive issues at council meetings and not every city can see that they

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have that kind of staff council relationship of mutual trust and respect.

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And then the city staff who works under Dave as a city manager is really great.

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They do a lot of work that you folks probably never see and if it's printed, it looks

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like this.

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I like, I like mine still in print, but be that as you may, they do an exceptionally good job of providing us the background of the information and then carrying out and carrying through with work that we have started because they do the dirty work, they do the clean up of we make mistakes and yes, we have made mistakes, but it's always a learning process and the council and the staff work,

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especially well together, and that again is critical to the success of this community not only in the past, but today and tomorrow.

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And beyond that, I have a lot of thoughts about what's happened here in Pliment.

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I came along at a great time, because the killings were beginning to blossom.

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The first two years were going in 1971, it started in 1968 and 9.

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And all that development, it was about 18, 19,000 when I came here and it's over

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eating now.

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And all through that process, the city councils and the staff have diligently worked

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to carry out the city's comprehensive plan.

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It is a plan.

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And it's not a plan that gets shoved on a shelf and somebody's back closet.

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It's a plan that is executed all the time by this through the staff and the city council.

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and that's how we develop and it's you can go any place in the city, you can see how that works.

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Good planning provides the infrastructure needed to support good development and I think this city council and it's staff working together

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have done that in spades over the years and it's a blessing for the public here in Plymouth because again

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You can read in the papers almost a weekly, some city in the true and true

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and true metropolitan area has got some, a break of schooling on because of

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interpersonal and relationships, and in many cases just plain poor planning.

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So I think I'm very proud of the work this council has done in previous councils.

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I'm hoping and I'm confident that given the present leadership in the city

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that that progress will continue.

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So my wrap up tonight, but I'm so grateful and blessed to have had the opportunity to be of service to this community and my elective service ends, but I'm still a citizen and I'll be around.

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I won't be otherwise threatened the mayor that I might just come to the council meeting and take everything all that can send a gender

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That won't happen

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But again, thank you very much. It's been a good time for me. My family. We meet a great home here. Lots of friends. So thank you very much.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Please have a seat.

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You want to join me up front?

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Sure.

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There's a picture in here when Judy Johnson was mayor.

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And she was one of them.

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And there's

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one other thing, I'm going to really miss about Jim being gone from the council, the last meeting of every year when we vote on the budget, we both wear our grinch ties.

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Now

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we'll move on with the agenda, where we're at item 5, approving the agenda, council members

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may add items to the agenda, including items containing the council information memorandum

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for discussion purposes, or staff direction only.

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Council will not normally take official action and items added to the agenda.

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Look at the council is saying they're me added to the agenda.

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Then look for motion.

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Move approval.

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Second.

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We have motion.

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Second all of favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed.

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That brings us to item six.

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The consent agenda.

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These items are considered to be routine.

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It'll be enacted by one motion.

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There'll be no separate discussion of these items unless the council member or citizen so request.

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And which event I don't remove from the consent agenda in place elsewhere on the agenda?

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Go to the council first and anything to remove.

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Council on our agenda?

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I'd like to pull item 6.22 please.

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6.22.

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All right.

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Then we will make that on general business item 8.3.

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Anything else to remove from consent?

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Move from the consent agenda?

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I need to ask the audience first.

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Anything from the audience to be removed from consent?

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Seeing none now, I'll bring it back to the council.

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We'll show a proof of the consent agenda.

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We have a motion of second, all in favour, say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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All right, that brings us to our public hearings.

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Item 7.1, public hearing and adoption of 2025 fees.

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Mayor and council, my name's Ryan Vannas, the Assistant Finance Director, here to talk

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about a summary of proposed fee increases for 2025.

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So

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on this first tab, the rate adjustments for the follow the utility rates study that was performed in 2023 for utility rate increases proposed is an 8% increase for water rates for residential and commercial for commercial irrigation proposed rates are an 8% increase sewer rates are proposed to increase 4.5% water resources proposed to increase 4%

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solid waste proposed increase of $2.50 per month, and the monthly organic fee is

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variable based on participation, but 2025 should start to the year of $3.64 in

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increase of 14 cents per month over 2024. Other changes include updating rates to

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accurately reflect current costs for the city, for the purchase of meters.

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And the addition and removal of meters currently utilized by the city of Fumuth.

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Another item of note, conduit debt in your packet.

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The conduit debt fee is listed as the fee plus 1% of the principal amount of the bonds.

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This has been updated in the ordinance to say 1 half of 1% of the principal amount

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the bonds which aligns with city policy.

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Other changes to the fee schedule include

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verbiage clarifications and updates. That is included in your packet.

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That was it, sorry.

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All right, we'll open it up to the council for questions and staff questions for Ryan.

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Thank you for that presentation, Ryan. On the previous slide, you showed the sewer fee. Is that just being passed through

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from the Met Council or is that our choice on that? I feel like sewer is mostly a Met Council thing, correct? I believe that is our fee.

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Yeah, mayor and council. Yeah, that that is our fee and the biggest portion of our sewer budget is paying them at council for sewer treatment in every year that number seems to go up. So that does cover the annual increase.

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Thank you. Other questions for staff.

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I had one more mayor. Okay. Go ahead.

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The recycling fee again is that basically just based on the contract changes from the recycling company.

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It seems like I mean 48 stood out to me as a percent increase there was it was high, but

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250 doesn't seem that crazy, but just curious where that came from.

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Mayor and council. Yeah, this came before council. I believe in before we passed organics,

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because we are doing both organics and recycling with Republic services. So that's in that singular

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contract with an extension. So that is the reason for the adjustment. Thank you.

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Are the questions for staff?

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If not, I'm going to open up the public hearing. I don't have

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any cards to speak on this item. Is anyone wish to speak at this item? If not, then I'm going

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to close the public hearing, bring it back to the council.

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Other questions, comments, motion,

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I hope you have someone take your job of making the motion.

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I will move the adoption of the 2025 fees as proposed.

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We have a motion to have a second.

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We have a motion of second.

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Any other discussion?

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All those papers say aye.

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Opposed?

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Now passes.

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Next we have our public hearing on the 2025 budget property tax levies.

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our 2035, 2034 capital improvements plan and 25 classification compensation plan and Andrea.

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Mayor and Council, we are going to roll right into budget.

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The first slide I often throw up here is our timeline.

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The city of Plymouth has a biennial budget, so that means last year we built the operating

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budget, so the 2024, 2025 operating budget, and this year was our focus on the capital plan.

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So the city started that back in June, and we had various touch points with council between

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then and now, which is the final approval of the budget, the levy, and the capital improvement

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plan.

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There are various factors that go into the operating and the capital budget.

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we have compensation benefits for fleet facilities, IT and the utilities. It is the operating

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and the capital cost to support our buildings, equipment and infrastructure, and to make

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sure we have enough funding to pay for those things.

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In 2023 council adopted these strategic themes,

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So we have city center, the redevelopment, vision, environment, and city of choice.

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Many of the city's goals fall under city of choice.

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So Council has these strategic themes, and then it flows down to the department goals for the budget.

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And many of them fall into city of choice because we are providing those core services.

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So we're looking to be innovative and drive efficiencies.

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These are those department goals, so I've taken the little icons from the strategic themes

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and placed them next to the buckets here.

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The little blue ribbon is our city of choice, so you do see a lot of that because that is

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in support of the core services.

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And then the orange one is for redevelopment and the navy one is for city center which

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falls primarily into public works and community and economic development.

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We also have budget goals.

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These are consistent pretty much from budget cycle to budget cycle, but primarily we're looking to make sure that we are planning and doing our modeling,

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that to make sure that we have enough funding on hand for our current and our future operating in capital.

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That we're using any one-time gains to support one-time expenditures that those don't roll into the expectation that they support on-going expenditures, and that we're always being sensitive to what that relates to for the taxpayer.

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Our general fund is the largest budgeted fund.

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So, over on the right hand side, it's broken out by department.

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This sort of alliance with those core services that I was talking about.

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And then over on the left is the funding sources for those services,

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and for those departments within the general fund.

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This page shows the city's various levees,

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so that general fund budget rolls right into the top line on this page.

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So we have our general fund levee, our capital levees, debt levees, and the HRA levee.

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I mentioned last year that we built the 2020-25 concept budget as part of our biennial

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budget.

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When we did that, we had a proposed 6.2 percent increase, but that is down to the 5.2 percent

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now.

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And the changes there were the changes in Hennepin County assessing fees and then our own

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street lighting.

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00:41:22,810 --> 00:41:25,870
This is what's proposed tonight, the 5.2.

451
00:41:31,090 --> 00:41:33,090
So, again, when we built that by any old budget,

452
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:35,370
the primary drivers there are it's the people

453
00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:37,110
that are performing those core services.

454
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:40,230
So, it's people' cost and it's also the buildings

455
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:42,750
and they equipment needed to do their services.

456
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:45,810
And then the changes are elimination

457
00:41:45,810 --> 00:41:47,450
of our street lighting fees,

458
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:51,410
so that appears on most residents' utility bills.

459
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:54,330
And we got the discontinuation

460
00:41:54,330 --> 00:41:56,630
of the assessor fee from Hennepin County.

461
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:06,380
Here's a little history of what the levy increases have been,

462
00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:08,580
so we're sitting at 5.2 right now.

463
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,660
The orange part represents debt,

464
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:14,620
so you'll see that that got bigger in 2020 when we brought on the debt

465
00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:18,020
for the expansion and the renovation of the Climuth Community Center,

466
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,820
and then also in 2022 for the fire stations.

467
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,960
That was totally phased in by 2024,

468
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,460
and then we'll be there until that debt is paid off.

469
00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:43,820
So the actual impact to the taxpayer, it talks about that levy, that levy amount, I was just talking about but it's also the market value or the assessed value.

470
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:53,660
For taxes payable 2025, total city market value went up 1.7% and that's including 236 million of new construction.

471
00:42:54,580 --> 00:43:02,660
The median value home is 481,000 for taxes, payable 2025, and that's an increase of 2.4%.

472
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,180
So the tax levy and the assessed market value, generically, there are some other little pieces

473
00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:15,920
that go into this, create our tax rate.

474
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:23,640
We're looking at 25.7% proposed rate, which in this graph showing the history is relatively stable.

475
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,540
And finally, we get to the impact to the taxpayer, so this includes property taxes.

476
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,420
It's everything the city builds.

477
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:38,780
So it's property taxes, the utilities, including the street lighting.

478
00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:43,720
So adding up all of those things, it's an increase for the median value home,

479
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,280
and the average utility user in the person that's paying street lighting,

480
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,440
$131 for the year or 5.9%.

481
00:43:56,060 --> 00:43:58,460
This is just another way to break that down.

482
00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:13,180
So, the city is just a piece of what taxpayers pay, obviously, your tax bill has the school district, the county, the city, and then other taxing jurisdictions, like Watershed, so the city represents 23% of that.

483
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:21,580
This is estimating, again, for that meeting value home of 481,000 that the tax should be just under 5,400.

484
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:29,580
plus shares 23% and then the layer under this breaks that down into those services that I was talking about.

485
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:39,280
So, for example, public works, it's $219 for year-round maintenance of, I have 332 miles.

486
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:40,680
Is that right, Michael?

487
00:44:43,170 --> 00:44:52,930
A few new roads, it's close for Parks and Rec, $314 for the year, that our website says 68

488
00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:59,470
Parks, 1,827 acres, and 182 miles of trails.

489
00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:34,100
And lastly, this is how we compare to other cities. So this is all cities greater than 10,000 in population within Hennepin County. A couple things to point out, you're going to say, I said 5.2 percent earlier, this says 5.3, this is because this is just city, it excludes HRA. So when we put HRA into it, it wiggles a little bit. And also that these are preliminary levies. So every other city is doing the exact same thing.

490
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:39,460
we're doing tonight. These numbers may come down. They cannot go out, but

491
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:42,080
Plymouth is obviously at the low end of this.

492
00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:46,420
With that, I'm happy to

493
00:45:46,420 --> 00:45:49,480
stand for questions. Questions for Andrea?

494
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,740
Councillor Willis?

495
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Well, first I want to thank you for the report and the preparation you in the

496
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,920
staff did and bringing this budget together and all the budgets. I think that the

497
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,280
numbers that you were just showing us in terms of the impact on the Plymouth

498
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:17,600
residential homeowner, again demonstrates the fact that the planning we've gone into over

499
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:24,000
these years and executed in terms of having balanced growth of good commercial tax

500
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:31,880
space is reflected in favor of our taxpayers, by the reasonably modest increase in the

501
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,240
tax, the city's portion of the tax bill for this coming tax year.

502
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:39,620
So again, thank you for the staff putting that budget together.

503
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:42,490
Councillor of Peterson.

504
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:48,890
I always think it's worth pointing out at this final meeting of the year where we approve this that it looks like.

505
00:46:49,830 --> 00:47:01,910
You know, we spend what maybe 20 minutes on it here, but this is the culmination of multiple meetings that the council takes on leading up to this in addition to the many hours of work the staffs put puts into preparing it.

506
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:08,810
So it may look like it's the rigor doesn't seem evident maybe at this meeting, but it's

507
00:47:08,810 --> 00:47:10,030
all the work that's led up to it.

508
00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:13,530
So just highlighting that for the general watching public, I've all the work that goes into

509
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:15,110
getting to this day.

510
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:17,090
Excellent point.

511
00:47:17,570 --> 00:47:19,110
Any other comments, questions?

512
00:47:21,420 --> 00:47:21,520
All right.

513
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,140
We're going to have a public hearing.

514
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:24,560
I'm going to open up the public hearing.

515
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:26,460
I don't have any courage to speak on this side.

516
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,500
I'm just saying one wish to speak on this side.

517
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,380
Seeing none, I'm going to close the public hearing.

518
00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:40,520
Second, what Councillor Willis said, our staff just does an absolute fantastic job in every

519
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:46,140
aspect of what we do, but our finances are managed impeccably well.

520
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,280
We get awards every year for it, we're triple a bond rated.

521
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,740
That's one of the things I think we're really proud of in our community as our financial.

522
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,620
How we financially are responsible and handle the city finances and taxpayer money.

523
00:48:01,620 --> 00:48:07,920
I think that's extremely important to the council and very important to the staff as well.

524
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:10,900
So thanks for a great job bringing that budget together again.

525
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:12,780
A lot of work goes into that.

526
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,180
Here.

527
00:48:14,380 --> 00:48:14,780
Thank you.

528
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:15,820
Thank you.

529
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,220
Did everybody that participated to create this?

530
00:48:18,860 --> 00:48:20,120
Is it okay to make a motion?

531
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,840
See if I can do them all.

532
00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:23,960
Okay.

533
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:30,520
I would like to make resolution approving the or adopting the resolution to adopt the 25 budget.

534
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:38,560
Then, resolution approving the 25 to 34 capital improvement plan.

535
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:50,450
Then the resolution to authorize the 2025 HRA Levy, resolution adopting the tax levies for

536
00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:52,350
taxes payable in 2025.

537
00:48:54,930 --> 00:49:01,090
And finally, resolution approving the general increase to wages and contributions to

538
00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:05,950
the benefits plan for non-represented employees in setting the city manager's compensation

539
00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:06,910
for 2025.

540
00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:09,050
Did I get a mom second?

541
00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:10,870
All right.

542
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:12,350
I got a motion to be able to second.

543
00:49:12,350 --> 00:49:12,750
Second.

544
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:13,750
Okay.

545
00:49:13,850 --> 00:49:14,950
We got a motion in a second.

546
00:49:15,550 --> 00:49:16,430
Other discussion.

547
00:49:18,410 --> 00:49:19,430
Conspiracy as me?

548
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:20,690
Yeah.

549
00:49:20,890 --> 00:49:22,730
I just need to jump in there.

550
00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:24,290
And thank you, Andrea.

551
00:49:24,910 --> 00:49:28,110
And to your staffer, the incredible work that you guys do.

552
00:49:28,550 --> 00:49:32,310
And it's just one more thing that makes me so proud to be a

553
00:49:32,310 --> 00:49:36,730
President, is how well our finances are managed.

554
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:38,390
So thank you.

555
00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:41,470
Other comments?

556
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:42,290
Discussion?

557
00:49:43,890 --> 00:49:43,990
All right.

558
00:49:44,290 --> 00:49:45,670
All those of here say aye.

559
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:47,130
Opposed?

560
00:49:47,790 --> 00:49:48,890
In that passes.

561
00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:51,570
Now we move on to general business.

562
00:49:52,070 --> 00:49:53,030
Item 8.1.

563
00:49:53,130 --> 00:49:56,310
Approving the conditional use permit amendment and site plan amendment.

564
00:49:56,450 --> 00:49:59,370
Request to allow for an addition parking lot expansion.

565
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,200
And later improvements at the Slavic Church Golgotha for property located at 1-2-300-18th Avenue.

566
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,760
Thank you, Mayor and Council.

567
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:19,580
The applications before you are a condition's permanent amendment for expansion of the existing

568
00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:26,360
Church and also a site plan amendment for an expansion of the parking lot to accommodate parking

569
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,300
and related improvements, such as landscaping.

570
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:36,100
The proposed addition is a two-story 12,817 square foot addition.

571
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:40,360
First to discuss the condition's permit amendment.

572
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,580
The ordinance allows religious institutions, as conditionally uses,

573
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,440
an expansion to the church requires an amendment to that conditionally use.

574
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,360
In 1984, the council approved the

575
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,540
Current Conditionings Permit and Site Plan for the existing church

576
00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:05,460
There was a similar project that's currently proposed approved in 2014 over that was never constructed

577
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:13,180
On the compact planning commission reviewed the conditions and recommended approval of the request

578
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Staff must also look at the condition is permit amendment

579
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:22,280
Standards I'm showing here in front of you

580
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:28,440
staff did look at the standards and found that it would meet all the conditions permit standards.

581
00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:36,940
Conditions permits are you able to add reasonable conditions that are related to the application.

582
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:47,280
Standard conditions have been added after the Planning Commission public hearing and additional conditions regarding traffic management and parking lot design have also been added.

583
00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:56,680
I'm showing here is the removals that would be proposed at the existing site and the construction

584
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,280
which would consist of an addition to the south side of the existing church.

585
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:06,900
Also, parking lot expansions to the northwest corner of the parking lot in the southeast corner.

586
00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:15,150
Showing here is a little, it's a better rendition of that kind of give you an idea as to what is being proposed.

587
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:22,150
The addition shown on the southern side, the new parking lot areas, and also some restriping

588
00:52:23,310 --> 00:52:29,030
to maximize the amount of parking that could be added to the parking lot.

589
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:33,210
I'm showing here is the proposed floor plan.

590
00:52:34,270 --> 00:52:39,390
The existing sanctuary would be converted to a multi-purpose room.

591
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:43,230
There would be construction of a new sanctuary on the main level.

592
00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:49,410
In addition to a lobby and kitchen area, the second level show on the right side of the screen

593
00:52:49,410 --> 00:52:57,850
we consist of classrooms for the youth programs and for the Sunday school and Wednesday evening classes.

594
00:53:00,410 --> 00:53:04,910
I'm showing here is the building, proposed building addition, elevations.

595
00:53:05,450 --> 00:53:10,430
This eastern elevation would be the new entrance of the church.

596
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:33,230
As with the condition of permit staff must look at the site plan amendment request and see whether or not it meets the standards of the zoning district, which is located, staff did look at those standards for the RSF4 district, for non-residential use, and finds that it would meet the required standards for the site plan amendment.

597
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:42,520
Parking is the main topic of discussion with this proposal, as with, as is with, you know,

598
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:49,900
these types of additions. Parking is based on the capacity of the sanctuary. In this case,

599
00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:57,140
there's 494 seats in the existing sanctuary and the new sanctuary would have the same capacity.

600
00:53:57,140 --> 00:54:06,620
that does equate to 165 spaces, the updated site plan shown in front of you would supply

601
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:12,000
176 parking spaces on the site, which would meet the city's parking requirements.

602
00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:20,050
After the Planning Commission meeting and some direction by the Planning Commission, there's

603
00:54:20,050 --> 00:54:26,150
some discussion related to parking and traffic analysis, because the size of the sanctuary

604
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:32,890
was not changing, traffic study was not warranted in this case. Staff feels that the peak generation

605
00:54:32,890 --> 00:54:39,410
is not anticipated to substantially change into the subject applications. And the applicant

606
00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:45,090
has submitted a parking and traffic management plan per the direction of the planning commission.

607
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:50,830
The existing roadway is able to accommodate the current traffic generated by the church.

608
00:54:50,830 --> 00:54:54,090
And that's further discussion.

609
00:54:55,050 --> 00:54:59,890
The engineering staff will investigate if improvements are warranted outside this particular

610
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,160
Application, shown here are some improvement examples of what could occur in the area.

611
00:55:06,980 --> 00:55:12,000
And if warranted, this would be coordinated and funded by normal city operational budgets and procedures.

612
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:22,580
Just to give a brief history of the site, this property, again, was approved in 1984.

613
00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:25,920
This is a 1987 aerial shown on the left side.

614
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:33,820
Church was constructed in 1985, the homes to the south were constructed around the same time period,

615
00:55:34,220 --> 00:55:36,920
and the homes to the west were constructed in the 1950s.

616
00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:44,160
I'm sure on the eastern side is a 1999 aerial photo, which was approved through the preliminary

617
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:50,100
plat, and final plat, and the homes to the north and the east were constructed around 1997.

618
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,220
So

619
00:55:53,460 --> 00:56:00,320
here are some recent areas and some of the reasons for the traffic concerns and the parking on street parking.

620
00:56:00,980 --> 00:56:06,380
This is a 2023 aerial obviously taken during a non-service event.

621
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:17,700
On the east is a 2024 aerial that does show that the parking lot is being utilized as is on street parking options in this case.

622
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:25,440
staff as we serve several neighborhood concerns, which again has to do with the on-street parking

623
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:34,000
and the during the service times events, speeding and the traffic along 18th Avenue, and

624
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,340
whether or not the size of the addition would bring additional people to the church at one time.

625
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:46,240
Some of the place from the landscaping could it be more strategic to screen from the residential around it

626
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,020
and then finally whether or not there would be a loss of property value.

627
00:56:52,690 --> 00:56:57,490
As a discussion at the public hearing and per the direction of the Planning Commission,

628
00:56:57,790 --> 00:57:03,770
the applicant did work with their architect and submitted an updated plan to staff

629
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:06,810
on that removed some parking lot islands and added additional parking.

630
00:57:07,390 --> 00:57:13,930
Again, getting to that 176 number, the applicant did submit a traffic management plan,

631
00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:22,030
which was attached to the staff report and then finally, City Public Safety did visit the site

632
00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:25,070
on a Sunday to ensure safe access.

633
00:57:25,310 --> 00:57:30,030
We did receive that there were not concerns and the fire department was able to access

634
00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:32,330
the entire site throughout the neighborhood that day.

635
00:57:34,580 --> 00:57:38,940
So with that, we were finding the findings is that it would comply with all the condition

636
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:48,020
She's permit standards and site plan requirements and community and an economic development department and the planning commission recommends approval of the request.

637
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,800
So with that, I'll stand with any questions.

638
00:57:53,610 --> 00:57:55,550
All right, go to the council. Any questions?

639
00:57:55,650 --> 00:57:56,370
There's staff.

640
00:57:57,170 --> 00:57:57,970
Councillor Pointner.

641
00:57:58,170 --> 00:57:58,870
One quick question.

642
00:57:59,690 --> 00:58:02,410
I'm the picture that shows the parking on the street.

643
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:04,770
They park on Magnolia.

644
00:58:05,530 --> 00:58:06,430
Is that Magnolia?

645
00:58:06,430 --> 00:58:10,970
Lane and 18th, where's that just traffic leaving?

646
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:13,630
I can't tell on 18th.

647
00:58:13,630 --> 00:58:17,170
Mayor Council, it does appear that there's both parking along

648
00:58:17,170 --> 00:58:21,630
Magnolia and along the southern side of 18th.

649
00:58:21,830 --> 00:58:23,310
Thank you.

650
00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:24,370
Are the questions?

651
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,540
Councillor Choseman.

652
00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:33,980
One of the residents concerns that I've heard is about landscaping

653
00:58:33,980 --> 00:58:44,820
and loss of privacy. What are some of the things that this I could do to help ensure that

654
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:50,900
residents aren't losing too many trees and in a way that affects their privacy and property

655
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:59,360
value? Mayor and Council, a landscape plan was submitted that shows the necessary amount of trees

656
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:05,200
per code, but in also some of the replacement trees that would be lost, there is also a condition

657
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:14,420
in the resolution that states that the applicant revise that landscaping plan to place the landscaping

658
00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:21,900
in locations that could help to screen from the adjacent residential properties. They could do

659
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:29,020
things, although not required, they could do burming. They could do other things like that. Obviously,

660
00:59:29,020 --> 00:59:35,780
the use of connoisseurs versus deciduous connoisseurs can help to achieve screening throughout

661
00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:38,460
the entire year as opposed to a deciduous tree.

662
00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:43,400
Those are some of the things that they could look at and I know that I'll let the applicant

663
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:50,400
speak, but I know that they are welcoming to that condition and the resolution and would work

664
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,620
with staff to maximize the screening of the landscaping.

665
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,740
Go ahead.

666
00:59:58,540 --> 00:59:59,980
Is there?

667
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,440
Anything the city can do to help encourage that or support that type of privacy screen. Perhaps that's a question for

668
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,020
soren.

669
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:18,060
Yeah, I don't have a lot to add beyond. You'd start with what the code requires. And then you

670
01:00:18,060 --> 01:00:23,000
listen to some of the concerns that are raised to see if you can appease those. I do think that

671
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,320
what's been pointed out is that the applicants open to using different types of trees to increase

672
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:34,260
the screening, and I think that's exactly what we've done, so I think we've taken that

673
01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:39,040
issue to where we can go. In terms of neighborhoods, neighbors concerned, screening is usually

674
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,440
one of the top priorities, and so using deciduous trees and things like Kippa suggested

675
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:50,220
is, I think, the best path forward. Thank you. Mayor, one more question.

676
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:51,120
Go ahead, Councilmember.

677
01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:56,000
And then, just I wanted to ask, the level of traffic that was in that picture when we part

678
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,820
on the street, is that one day a week, or is that more often during the week?

679
01:01:01,340 --> 01:01:05,920
Mayor and Council staff understands that it's typically one day a week on Sundays.

680
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,160
That is what the applicant has responded when we asked for them to provide some additional

681
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:18,040
information on the use of the church throughout the week, which was part of the packet also,

682
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:23,300
but those are the days that on Sundays typically the earlier service are when that occurs.

683
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:25,780
Thank you.

684
01:01:25,780 --> 01:01:26,800
Councillor Pieterson.

685
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:27,800
Thank you, Mayor.

686
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,120
Can you go back again to the aerial with the parking?

687
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:39,260
Do you know the image on the right is what's the source for that?

688
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,380
Is that provided by the applicant, by a resident, by the city?

689
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,200
A mayor in council.

690
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,580
The city receives updated aerial photos periodically from

691
01:01:49,580 --> 01:01:56,400
this was provided by Hennepin County and was it, I would venture to guess that this was a Sunday.

692
01:01:56,980 --> 01:02:00,280
It seems given the fullness of the parking lot.

693
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,560
And do we, was this just an average Sunday or was this a particularly, was this Easter Sunday?

694
01:02:05,660 --> 01:02:08,820
Or do we know anything about this particular day?

695
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Mary and Council, I don't believe that we have an exact date.

696
01:02:12,860 --> 01:02:16,660
I think you're thought about it being a Sunday is correct.

697
01:02:16,660 --> 01:02:17,480
Okay.

698
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:25,860
And my math is probably offered as counting the cars that are parked along the street.

699
01:02:26,260 --> 01:02:34,060
I came up with somewhere around 25 or 26. And if they're adding 28 additional parking spots in theory,

700
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,940
with the new parking, there would not. If this was an average day on an average day,

701
01:02:38,980 --> 01:02:41,340
all those cars would fit in a lot in the future, is that right?

702
01:02:42,220 --> 01:02:44,240
Hearing Council that is correct.

703
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,500
Other questions?

704
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:51,140
All right.

705
01:02:51,380 --> 01:02:52,540
I do have several cards.

706
01:02:53,860 --> 01:02:56,800
I'm going to ask their applicant, Alexander Bellos,

707
01:02:57,660 --> 01:02:59,640
1, 2, 3, 100, 18th Avenue North.

708
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,940
I will also ask the other two individuals

709
01:03:03,940 --> 01:03:06,540
who wish to speak tonight as well as Mr. Bellos.

710
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,360
We've all either watched the Planning Commission meeting

711
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:16,640
or we've read the minutes from the Planning Commission meeting so we already know those issues.

712
01:03:17,380 --> 01:03:21,380
So you don't need to repeat them here because we've already digested all that.

713
01:03:22,020 --> 01:03:27,040
So you want to give more of a readers digester or anything new that wasn't addressed in planning that'd be great.

714
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:36,180
Nothing new. First of all, take you everyone working with us and let us get the church and your city.

715
01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:43,580
Thank you. And we try to do whatever you require and whatever the question is. We work in

716
01:03:43,580 --> 01:03:49,180
Annette. We want to be, I'm sure we follow the rules and we want to be good neighbors and

717
01:03:49,180 --> 01:03:57,900
asking for to do this addition to not create a more problem to be homeowners or neighbors,

718
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:05,560
but to create a less problem to fit our cars in the parking lot and do our activity inside

719
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:11,360
in the building. This is what we like. This is the goal. This is what we try to do. So we

720
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:19,960
will answer any questions. Do we have questions for the applicant? No. All right. Thank you.

721
01:04:20,180 --> 01:04:28,240
Okay, Council Member Chelsnek. Thank you. Could you address the privacy screening, including

722
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:35,680
potential deciduous trees or berming to ensure that residents still are maintaining privacy

723
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,700
from the improvements?

724
01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:46,680
For probably they can say for previous years we tried to do everything as possible to be

725
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:52,720
doly escaping the best as possible and if some trees get a die then we replace it and stuff like

726
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,020
this.

727
01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:57,200
So we're open to do whatever it will be, help to make them happy.

728
01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:12,880
Any other questions? All right. Thank you. Thank you. Next, I'll ask Kathy Mesk, 1,800 may know the Elaine North.

729
01:05:13,540 --> 01:05:19,880
So, Kathy, we've read the minutes, or watched it, and we've also read through your email that we received. So, thank you.

730
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,340
the

731
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,200
picture of what we see from our house.

732
01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:31,980
I don't want to repeat anything.

733
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,160
So, you already know we've been there for a while.

734
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:38,080
Over 30 years, of course.

735
01:05:40,060 --> 01:05:43,280
And we let this is like looking out my front door.

736
01:05:44,180 --> 01:05:46,760
So, it's a space that we do spend quite a bit of time.

737
01:05:47,420 --> 01:05:49,780
It's a low density area.

738
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:51,860
The road is...

739
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,440
Yeah, it comes from our village.

740
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:02,860
Okay, sorry, our home is right there on the corner across the street.

741
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,580
Cars entering the church come directly in front of our house.

742
01:06:08,620 --> 01:06:09,940
They have

743
01:06:13,820 --> 01:06:23,620
to go through either one of the two parking lot entrances in order to get to the church, which of course is right in front.

744
01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:29,040
We feel that our home would be directly affected by the expansion.

745
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,140
We would lose, you can see right up there.

746
01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:36,040
Let's go on now.

747
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:42,780
You can see that the berm is there and across from the berm is where the parking lot would go

748
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:44,700
and that is green space for us.

749
01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:48,980
When we look out our area, we would be then looking at hard skate.

750
01:06:48,980 --> 01:07:17,280
There is currently not a plan in place for any type of deciduous trees, the church has been extremely good at providing trees and things, but of course we would want to see the council put in writing some type of privacy

751
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:25,440
financing along there with deciduous trees. We would expect to see a greater amount of

752
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,920
headlights, a greater amount of traffic noise,

753
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:41,900
and in 2022 our mayor actually in the city

754
01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:48,440
newsletter was quoted as saying that this church has over 700 members, which I think is

755
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,460
really accurate. On any given service day

756
01:07:56,090 --> 01:08:00,850
or event day, we would see well over 200 cars.

757
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:10,770
I do have of course pictures, which isn't going to be helpful. At this point, you'll

758
01:08:10,770 --> 01:08:19,730
have to do your own renaissance work, but we do have cars parked on both sides of my street

759
01:08:21,690 --> 01:08:30,130
which, of course, impedes our ability to get in and out of our driveway,

760
01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:36,380
and then we also see parking along 18th Avenue.

761
01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:41,640
Safety-wise, it's

762
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:50,200
a large amount of cars that come in about 10 to 15 minutes before a service time.

763
01:08:52,150 --> 01:08:54,890
It's somewhat scary. It's somewhat,

764
01:09:03,090 --> 01:09:09,030
it's, it's a lot of cars in a short amount of time that come down the hill very quickly.

765
01:09:09,930 --> 01:09:14,530
And we'll quickly come around the corner into the parking lot.

766
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:20,490
It's safety is huge for us.

767
01:09:20,790 --> 01:09:25,590
We all have little kids. I have grandchildren. I do want to enjoy my home.

768
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:35,970
And last time we spoke, they did talk about mitigating the traffic control by using

769
01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:43,750
people maybe from their church to control the traffic speed.

770
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:58,550
And that also would be nice if the council would help to get something in writing.

771
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:59,970
So that

772
01:10:00,590 --> 01:10:16,650
We as neighbors feel safe crossing the street going to our the trails that are right across 18th Avenue and just protecting the people that look there.

773
01:10:17,290 --> 01:10:21,350
And our and having a berm there that would appreciate

774
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:29,600
that we now will be tolerating a larger amount of cars in their parking lot.

775
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:34,040
And yes, we do have an enormous amount of cars,

776
01:10:36,340 --> 01:10:39,940
every service, every week, every event,

777
01:10:42,110 --> 01:10:46,750
every celebration, every weekend.

778
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:57,630
We do have cars, bumper to bumper, lined, unmagnolious street on both sides.

779
01:11:01,390 --> 01:11:03,710
So, thank you for listening and appreciate it.

780
01:11:03,710 --> 01:11:08,430
All right. Thank you very much. And then Mike Maske, say Madras.

781
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:21,170
Take care, Mayor. Council members. Thank you for your long-term service, council member Willis.

782
01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:31,790
I think it's remarkable that the church has grown. I think it's an admirable that they've grown.

783
01:11:32,710 --> 01:11:38,570
When we first moved into the original church, it was capacity,

784
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:47,550
parking lot was fine, it started growing, and then of course they wanted to move on

785
01:11:47,550 --> 01:11:48,890
and get it a larger church.

786
01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:53,950
And so at this point in time the church is doubling

787
01:11:53,950 --> 01:12:02,610
in size, they're building a building in double in size. And the conditional use

788
01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:08,650
permit is totally being the code for services in the

789
01:12:08,650 --> 01:12:08,910
sanctuary.

790
01:12:09,670 --> 01:12:15,290
But what happens when they have extra teleprompting

791
01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:19,670
televisions in the other sanctuary are the multi-purpose room.

792
01:12:20,910 --> 01:12:23,230
What, how's that going to be enforced?

793
01:12:24,130 --> 01:12:27,030
The condition you use permit is just for the permit.

794
01:12:28,650 --> 01:12:29,390
That's my question.

795
01:12:29,390 --> 01:12:36,850
How is this going to be enforced for a fire standard when there's more people in the capacity?

796
01:12:40,650 --> 01:12:46,510
In the commission planning commission meeting, it was discussed about the traffic.

797
01:12:48,010 --> 01:12:55,370
The traffic is immense. It has grown over the 30 years that we've lived here.

798
01:12:57,710 --> 01:13:05,350
It was also discussed at the Planning Commission that it's on a Sunday for a service

799
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:10,930
and the traffic isn't that much.

800
01:13:15,670 --> 01:13:23,590
The traffic survey should be requested and demanded to be done because we live here.

801
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:32,570
You're not aware of it, and the traffic coming down 18th Avenue, the jump of Lake of Medicine Lake,

802
01:13:32,930 --> 01:13:38,690
and Plimus, people coming down with their boats. They're not familiar with where the landing is.

803
01:13:39,230 --> 01:13:40,090
We see it all the time.

804
01:13:43,050 --> 01:13:47,510
The other challenges, in the wintertime, when the cars on 18th

805
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:55,150
or sometimes on 18th Avenue, parked on both sides, and I made Nolia with a snow and EMT truck,

806
01:13:55,150 --> 01:13:59,830
And a fire truck will not be able to get through there at all.

807
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:07,420
My question for the fire chief would in the empty truck and a fire truck

808
01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:13,980
be able to get through may knowly with cars on both sides during the winter.

809
01:14:16,170 --> 01:14:18,110
One car can barely make it through.

810
01:14:22,150 --> 01:14:27,310
So again, with arable, the church has grown in size,

811
01:14:32,530 --> 01:14:45,500
is reach full capacity and it's just this passes I can't even put my house up for

812
01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:52,820
fail to have a showing on a Sunday without a traffic so again thank you Mayor

813
01:14:52,820 --> 01:14:57,300
thank you Constables city staff you guys are great we've enjoyed living in

814
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,080
for all these years.

815
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,720
But this is probably going to be the nail in the coffin. I apologize that that's, and other people I've talked to in the neighbors, they too are moving to. So thank you.

816
01:15:10,780 --> 01:15:16,980
All right. Thank you for that. I have been all of their cards to speak, so I'm going to close our hearing.

817
01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:30,300
So, Eric, the question is asked, or a Roger, that we have, if there's more people in the

818
01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:35,840
facility, then capacity allows housing, what's the enforcement mechanism?

819
01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:45,040
Mr. Mayor, so as I understand, as the application is that they would not be over capacity

820
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,620
given the use of the structure.

821
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:54,680
If there is a complaint, we can go spot check it, we can inspect it, and we can ensure that there is compliance.

822
01:15:55,380 --> 01:16:01,100
But as I understand, this change in the building size would not necessarily affect it,

823
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:06,240
even it's current use and they're well within their occupancy right currently.

824
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,840
Well, if there was everything we have in our collars, our complaint-based.

825
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,220
So if someone registers a complaint, we're going to go out there and check for it and make sure

826
01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:19,380
that they're within the capacity limits.

827
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:20,060
That's correct, Mayor.

828
01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:29,460
And then there is a question on the fire truck on Magnolia, there is ten, and you can park

829
01:16:29,460 --> 01:16:35,440
on both sides of Magnolia, so if there's, it's winter time, cars are constrained, can

830
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:36,960
a fire truck get through there.

831
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:42,760
Mayor, so we did have a truck go over there on a Sunday during service.

832
01:16:43,180 --> 01:16:47,000
They were able to navigate into the neighborhood, not into the neighborhood, and I would

833
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:52,760
just say that this street is not unlike a great majority of residential streets in the city

834
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:59,280
of Plymouth, that if we have snow and we have residents parking on both sides, sometimes it

835
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:06,140
is a bit constrained in our ability to be able to get around, but this is no different than

836
01:17:06,140 --> 01:17:10,920
really get that's Minnesota and winter and as long as we can move those snowbanks back, parking

837
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,620
is better and we can get larger vehicles through.

838
01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:15,020
Okay.

839
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:24,260
And the other speaker talked about staying there was no landscaping plan or on privacy

840
01:17:24,820 --> 01:17:29,920
fencing. Mr. Bell issue indicated that you'd be amenable just to work them in the neighborhood,

841
01:17:30,740 --> 01:17:33,140
if they need certain trees in there.

842
01:17:33,140 --> 01:17:37,020
can't put about a berm. There's no

843
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,880
me and console there's currently no

844
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:53,460
berm shown over they could propose to add add one. Okay. Or we could make it a

845
01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:56,460
condition, could we?

846
01:17:57,220 --> 01:17:58,040
Mayor, that is correct.

847
01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:01,600
This is an option.

848
01:18:05,380 --> 01:18:05,560
Yep.

849
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:06,700
The councilmember point, Mayor.

850
01:18:07,060 --> 01:18:07,300
I'm chosen.

851
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,700
I had a question for the owner.

852
01:18:11,580 --> 01:18:14,520
The outcome, come back up to the microphone.

853
01:18:14,740 --> 01:18:15,540
Thank you.

854
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,700
What are your plans during construction?

855
01:18:20,940 --> 01:18:24,520
Do you anticipating, anticipating, keeping everything open?

856
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:30,120
the church running all that. Where will the construction materials go? What's going to happen

857
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:30,920
during construction?

858
01:18:33,770 --> 01:18:40,690
We have bus and we have parking lot on a

859
01:18:40,690 --> 01:18:48,950
plymoth right here in a 15, 4, 15, 5, 0, 2, 0, and a 47. It's like 5 minutes drive. So

860
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:55,070
in the during construction we will be parking in a plymoth right here in this address. And

861
01:18:55,070 --> 01:19:00,530
because we now all below some parking to the construction and I'm applying it to use this

862
01:19:00,530 --> 01:19:01,990
parking to do the construction.

863
01:19:02,170 --> 01:19:03,070
Okay, thank you.

864
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:05,010
Councillor Chadneck.

865
01:19:06,770 --> 01:19:07,610
Thank you.

866
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:13,550
I am curious about a potential traffic study.

867
01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:20,510
One question that I have is, if there's parking on both sides of the street, could you

868
01:19:20,510 --> 01:19:25,270
the picture that has the cars in the parking lot.

869
01:19:27,860 --> 01:19:29,680
My concern is if there's parking

870
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:39,420
allowed on both sides of the street and along line of cars to get out that that would create

871
01:19:39,420 --> 01:19:45,840
quite a roadblock during that time when folks are leaving church. Would it be helpful to

872
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:57,320
do no parking along the very front there or at least between 18th and that first parking lot

873
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,980
entrance so that way there's at least kind of a right turn.

874
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,100
So people can get out of that way.

875
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:12,680
So, after last meeting right here, so like 20 days ago, we asked our service members to control the traffic.

876
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:20,200
And we are not allowed to offer members to parking on the both side of the street, only in the side what is connected to the church.

877
01:20:21,020 --> 01:20:25,280
Whatever is in the side for my neighbors, we are not allowed to park in any cars.

878
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:30,620
for last two or three because nobody parking on the outside, there's the parking on the one side.

879
01:20:31,340 --> 01:20:38,800
So like I mentioned last time, I ask in a city if city can help us to put the sign for no parking

880
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:44,620
on the one side of the street because right now if somebody come and just say you cannot park in

881
01:20:44,620 --> 01:20:51,340
right here they say where is the sign. Then they are not always will be listening us, right?

882
01:20:51,340 --> 01:20:57,260
So we need it help from the city to make sure we got it to the point, right, to get it.

883
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,760
So we open to do whatever's needed to do, but we ask the city to help us.

884
01:21:02,340 --> 01:21:09,320
So if they will be like no parking on one side, like from the houses, this will be help us to control the traffic.

885
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:15,540
So this is the question, but we do from our side, whatever we can, neighbors can approve that.

886
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,000
And, but the city can help us also.

887
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:25,810
Thank you, and Michael, as questions freshly for you as well.

888
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:31,990
Thank you, Council Member Chesnik. Yes, our staff has already committed to work with the

889
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:39,470
neighborhood on parking and possible striping adjustments to our normal process. So we would

890
01:21:39,470 --> 01:21:44,530
bring something back to Council likely later this winter if there's a change, but before we just

891
01:21:44,530 --> 01:21:49,690
put up no parking signs, we make sure to send out a survey and ask the residents because sometimes

892
01:21:49,690 --> 01:21:54,770
residents don't like to lose the parking in front of their home. So we've already

893
01:21:54,770 --> 01:21:57,710
committed to that process as a city to help with a solution.

894
01:21:59,590 --> 01:22:02,370
Thank you. But we did park it in the one side, not in the

895
01:22:02,370 --> 01:22:05,530
both side, couldn't live with it.

896
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:10,370
Thank you. I have a good day. Okay, thank you.

897
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:22,500
Yeah, my other question is on the capacity of the building.

898
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:30,880
If it is the case that essentially the sanctuary is kind of doubling with the addition of the

899
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:37,080
multipurpose room, will there be a lot more cars anticipated, even though the sanctuary

900
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:46,980
proper isn't changing size, if the capacity for folks to attend a service in the multipurpose

901
01:22:46,980 --> 01:22:56,920
is there would there be more cars and attendance than just these extra, you know, 25 to 30 on the street here?

902
01:22:57,140 --> 01:22:58,380
Do you anticipate that?

903
01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:09,720
So, our numbers of members, I will say, it's not changing probably for last, say, 10, 15 years, stay the same.

904
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:17,860
So because we don't have any anymore people come to US, so basically we just has us in our kids

905
01:23:17,860 --> 01:23:24,140
And the population our church is not growing, they stay the same, it was neighbors say it's a growing, it's not true

906
01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:33,100
So the numbers of members stay the same, just a lot of our kids is just a group here in the US

907
01:23:33,100 --> 01:23:40,760
And they not go into our church, they just go in a more American churches, not slavic churches, you know, because they grow up here.

908
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:48,260
So our population is that growing because a lot of old people passed away, and youth is just going to different churches.

909
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:53,220
This is like, even we have a lot of kids going, right? But they must stay with us.

910
01:23:53,500 --> 01:24:02,960
So the number stays the same. The whole reason of this construction is not, this is why a reason why we're not doing it in the 2014.

911
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:09,760
because even we got it full of proof for do it, because it's a cast as alarm money, and

912
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:17,720
it's not too much benefit for us, more benefit to neighbors than for us, right? So because

913
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:22,280
first of all, parking, we extended parking. We're talking about parking, but we extended

914
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:31,660
the parking. We add parkatory plus places, right? Second, we try to close our people in

915
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:39,660
Now, we did a lot of activity outside, because special on us in the summer, because we don't

916
01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:45,880
have any room inside, that we don't have any other choice, we did services outside, like

917
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,580
activities services, kids services, stuff like this.

918
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:54,760
So the goal is to do all these services inside, to make it more quiet for neighbors.

919
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,800
They last the sense why we do that, why it is because there's millions and millions

920
01:24:59,800 --> 01:24:59,960
.

921
01:25:00,620 --> 01:25:09,940
But is not for us, basically, more for neighbors. Right? So this is the goal. Like I said last night.

922
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:19,780
No, it's answer to. If you will not allow us, we're just to continue doing what we do. Right? What is it to be changed? Not much change.

923
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:28,440
Traffic is still with the same. Less parking. More noise outside. What else? Right?

924
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,360
This is basically like, well, this is the goal, right?

925
01:25:34,420 --> 01:25:37,540
This is the goal to make it a good neighbor.

926
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,080
We open to do whatever it's needed to do.

927
01:25:41,260 --> 01:25:42,180
That's what I'm trying to make.

928
01:25:42,580 --> 01:25:43,340
Thank you.

929
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,240
Yeah, and I have one last question about the potential

930
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:50,860
for traffic directors, is there a program

931
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,060
where church members could go through the training

932
01:25:56,060 --> 01:25:58,440
to become public traffic directors,

933
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,420
like out on the 18th or something like that,

934
01:26:00,420 --> 01:26:01,900
or would that have to be hired?

935
01:26:02,380 --> 01:26:04,040
No, I'm here in Colt's Member Chesnik.

936
01:26:04,580 --> 01:26:07,480
We don't currently have a program where we would train folks.

937
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,940
In fact, there are city code right now limits.

938
01:26:12,220 --> 01:26:15,520
The people allowed by a city code to direct traffic

939
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,060
on public streets to public safety officials

940
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:23,040
are civilian staff and any retired staff in good standing.

941
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,140
That would have to change.

942
01:26:25,780 --> 01:26:28,440
And so, and those folks would need to be hired

943
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:32,940
by the church if you know under current policy.

944
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:48,200
Yeah, under the current city code, someone employed by a church or a school or any place that has a lot of traffic still wouldn't meet the definition of our city code to legally be able to allow to direct traffic on public streets and homeless.

945
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:54,380
They have to be a city of Plumath or police department employee or retired police department employee.

946
01:26:57,940 --> 01:26:59,180
All right, other questions?

947
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,360
Any discussion?

948
01:27:11,940 --> 01:27:18,120
So staff has made a recommendation move forward on this with approving the application.

949
01:27:18,540 --> 01:27:20,820
These conditions, the CUP,

950
01:27:24,220 --> 01:27:26,660
and the Planning Commission passed it seven to one, I believe,

951
01:27:26,860 --> 01:27:28,420
or six to one?

952
01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:32,100
Is anyone want to make a motion?

953
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,620
Mayor, I'm happy to make a motion approving the conditional use permit.

954
01:27:40,620 --> 01:27:45,080
amendment and site plan amendment request to allow an additional parking lot expansion and related

955
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:51,680
improvements at the Slavic Church Golgotha located at 1 2 3 0 0 18th Avenue.

956
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,340
All right, we have motion and a second. Any other discussion?

957
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,500
All those in favor say aye.

958
01:27:59,320 --> 01:27:59,760
Opposed?

959
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,600
In that passes.

960
01:28:02,780 --> 01:28:03,300
Thank you.

961
01:28:08,890 --> 01:28:13,210
Next we have item 8.2 discussed the 2025 legislative priorities.

962
01:28:13,210 --> 01:28:13,930
Maria.

963
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,380
Good evening, Mary. Council. I'm just getting the presentation on the screen.

964
01:28:29,740 --> 01:28:29,940
All right,

965
01:28:30,020 --> 01:28:36,040
so we're here today to discuss you 2025 legislative priorities. To give a little bit of background

966
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:42,860
on the process, believe it or not, the session starts next month and January 14th, so that's why

967
01:28:42,860 --> 01:28:49,080
this is coming before you. Typically the council approves the legislative priorities and an annual basis

968
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,820
and just as a reminder, you may amend these priorities at any time.

969
01:28:55,220 --> 01:28:59,060
The city hires a lot being services through Lockridge Grindle, now in.

970
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:03,960
The three people on the screen here are the three lobbyists that we work with directly

971
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:08,100
in Lichensky, Alex Hassel, and Jasmine Eps Flowers.

972
01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:12,500
The city hires the lobbyists to represent the city's best interest.

973
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,480
They work closely with their legislators and directing bills

974
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:17,840
and following those bills through the committee process.

975
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:27,080
They provide updates to staff not only on our current bills, but on any matters that may affect the city and the advice staff in the city council on any legislative matters.

976
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:36,020
In addition to working with our lobbyist team, the city is also a member of various organizations that also have legislative platforms.

977
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:47,040
Some of the organizations are listed here on the screen. This is not encompass all of the organizations, but the major ones, including the League of Minnesota Cities, Metro Cities,

978
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,100
the Municipal Legislative Commission,

979
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:50,940
suburban transit association,

980
01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:54,360
the National Association of Housing and Redevelopment Officials,

981
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,580
and then addition to these organizations, city staff,

982
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,620
also participate in professional organizations.

983
01:30:00,140 --> 01:30:10,720
Where we kind of follow the specific professions and those organizations also advocate for certain policy, example that I have in the screen here is the Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association.

984
01:30:11,940 --> 01:30:19,580
These organizations have robust legislative policies that offer comprehensive approaches to address shared challenges that many cities have.

985
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:24,380
These organizations sloppy for issues that affect many cities throughout the stage.

986
01:30:24,380 --> 01:30:29,480
Some topics that these organizations cover are affordable housing, public safety,

987
01:30:29,780 --> 01:30:35,060
elections, economic development, transportation, telecommunications, labor relations,

988
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,580
municipal financial management, just to name a few.

989
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:43,920
So with that in your packet, we had a

990
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:50,820
draft proposal of the 2025 legislative priorities. A few of the major changes from last year's

991
01:30:50,820 --> 01:30:58,580
priorities would include that the bond request, the first item on the left there, that move

992
01:30:58,580 --> 01:31:04,440
from a $32 million request to a $26 million request, and the reason for that is because

993
01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:09,300
we've now completed Plumeth Boulevard and the regional ponding and through a bond request

994
01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:12,620
you can, you can't ask for any money and projects that are already complete.

995
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,580
So the deduction there is for Plumeth Boulevard and regional ponding.

996
01:31:16,580 --> 01:31:23,600
The other item that we removed is the item regarding County Road 73, which is already in progress.

997
01:31:24,260 --> 01:31:29,580
And then the item related to school resource officers as that was dealt with during the previous session.

998
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:35,940
So, again, before you use a draft proposal, the Council is asked to discuss these items tonight.

999
01:31:36,220 --> 01:31:40,260
You are welcome to approve this tonight or provide feedback and we can bring this back in January.

1000
01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:41,980
I will now stand for questions.

1001
01:31:41,980 --> 01:31:48,860
And I would just add and emphasize the point that several years ago we had legislative priorities

1002
01:31:48,860 --> 01:31:54,860
that I believe was like four plus pages long and the council really worked to get

1003
01:31:54,860 --> 01:31:59,400
parammed down to one of the ones specific because you know four or five pages and you sit

1004
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:05,380
down with our legislatures legislators it tends to like all of a sudden we're asking

1005
01:32:05,380 --> 01:32:10,060
for five pages and things rather than what's the things to specific to.

1006
01:32:10,060 --> 01:32:15,400
Plymouth that are important, so, for example, you had up on their suburban transit association,

1007
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:21,480
so we're a support, we're a member of the suburban transit association. We support their efforts

1008
01:32:21,480 --> 01:32:28,260
in what they have a lobbyist that works with them. They work to advance transit on behalf of the

1009
01:32:28,260 --> 01:32:36,520
suburban providers, but we have Highway 55 BRT on here, because that's specific to Plymouth,

1010
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:42,680
And that's not inclusive really what the suburban transit providers are pushing in their priority.

1011
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:46,420
So this is just calling out the things that are specific to play maths.

1012
01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:48,240
So we compare it down and say,

1013
01:32:48,260 --> 01:32:52,300
or play math here are the things that are really important for what we're trying to get done at the legislature.

1014
01:32:55,480 --> 01:32:56,100
Representative Carol.

1015
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,480
Just want to say he's still here.

1016
01:33:02,580 --> 01:33:09,540
question for Eric on the period duty disability. Does that meet that test? Seems to me

1017
01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:17,720
that's somewhat broad. Is that included in any of the public safety legislation priorities?

1018
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:24,980
Yes, Mayor Council. This falls in line with what we are, or what the associations

1019
01:33:24,980 --> 01:33:28,720
state-wide associations are lobbying for to just help with the

1020
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:29,980
peer disabilities.

1021
01:33:31,340 --> 01:33:32,540
So do we need this?

1022
01:33:32,540 --> 01:33:35,000
I mean, this seems to based on the tests that I just

1023
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:36,960
was outlining.

1024
01:33:37,340 --> 01:33:40,440
This seems to duplicate what's already in another legislative

1025
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:43,080
priority that we that we would support.

1026
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:43,680
Mayor.

1027
01:33:43,820 --> 01:33:45,340
Yeah, and council, yes, that's correct.

1028
01:33:51,460 --> 01:33:55,500
I would propose taking that out so we're consistent across the board

1029
01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:58,180
in terms of what's important, what's specific to

1030
01:33:58,180 --> 01:34:07,620
But clarification on that so you're saying that there's nothing special to play with about asking what we're asking on here

1031
01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:16,710
Correct, yes, let's do you why that for other questions comments?

1032
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,660
Yep, come to me chose Nick

1033
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:22,240
Thank you

1034
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:30,960
This may be a topic that's not specific to play myth, but I want to to put it on everyone's radar screen

1035
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:39,880
That one of the challenges for water quality across the whole metro area is de-icing salt,

1036
01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:43,820
washing into the fresh water bodies, and it is starting to accumulate.

1037
01:34:44,620 --> 01:34:50,960
There has been, I believe, for the past eight years, potential legislation brought to

1038
01:34:52,260 --> 01:34:59,400
reduce the slip and fall liability, because a lot of commercial applicators are obligated.

1039
01:34:59,400 --> 01:34:59,980
Um...

1040
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:21,940
By insurance or by their, by the property owners, to oversold sidewalks and parking lots and such, because of the potential for slip and fall liability, oversolding is a kind of easy way to help reduce that potential liability.

1041
01:35:21,940 --> 01:35:33,320
So, if there was a fix at the legislative level where applying the recommended amount of

1042
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:42,280
results by, I'm forgetting the name, the pollution control agency, has a recommended amount

1043
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:50,600
of salt per square foot that would be hugely helpful to moving the whole metro area.

1044
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:58,720
And really, the whole state closer to its freshwater water quality goals, surface water water quality goals.

1045
01:36:00,780 --> 01:36:12,580
So I'm not sure where that fits in this, it's not specific to Plymouth, but it is a really important issue that keeps going to the capital and it just gets stuck up there and it doesn't move forward.

1046
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,880
So I just want to raise the facility of that.

1047
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,960
handled by Metro City or Michael Metro cities or League of Minnesota cities.

1048
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:27,920
Mayor and Council were part of the Minnesota city storm water coalition and this is one

1049
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,500
area that they've been advocating for on a statewide level.

1050
01:36:32,180 --> 01:36:36,220
So I've heard of that and I know that's on their radar as well.

1051
01:36:36,460 --> 01:36:42,620
I don't know about the League or Metro cities but the storm water coalition yes and we're part of that.

1052
01:36:42,620 --> 01:36:43,180
Okay.

1053
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:50,560
Okay. Good. Good point. Anything else?

1054
01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:51,640
comments?

1055
01:36:55,370 --> 01:36:56,730
Councilor Gregor.

1056
01:36:58,690 --> 01:37:01,810
Yeah, I see your point on, you know, the things that are specific to

1057
01:37:01,810 --> 01:37:06,030
plimmyth being what we really want to highlight here so that our

1058
01:37:06,030 --> 01:37:09,550
legislators in particular know our key priorities. I do

1059
01:37:10,090 --> 01:37:14,210
recognize like Councilmember Chestnut's point, or even this

1060
01:37:14,210 --> 01:37:18,970
and duty disability thing like there may be at some point it might be wise for us to just make

1061
01:37:18,970 --> 01:37:27,330
a bullet list of other things that we back even if they aren't specific to Plymouth because

1062
01:37:27,330 --> 01:37:35,150
I think sharing with the legislature or our representatives in particular, you know, the

1063
01:37:35,150 --> 01:37:43,690
things that their community would support that help the broader state or help all the other

1064
01:37:43,690 --> 01:37:58,370
police departments or whatever it might be is important for us to communicate. I don't know that I want to add that whole bulleted list to this right now, but I think it's worthwhile for us to bring these topics up and discuss. So thank you at least for sharing that suggestion.

1065
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:11,510
And staff may look at why do I have links where you can click on a PDF and then be able to look at.

1066
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:32,150
Yeah, I was on one of the policy committees for the League of Minnesota cities, and so our city is giving its input in those levels too, and that's great that we are connected in so many different organizations too, but yeah, I think it might be useful at some point to have those links and so on.

1067
01:38:32,150 --> 01:38:34,250
Okay. Any other comments?

1068
01:38:35,950 --> 01:38:40,370
We're not asking for any approvals just direction for staff.

1069
01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:43,630
Okay. Okay. Looking for approval.

1070
01:38:44,290 --> 01:38:46,190
Okay. All right.

1071
01:38:47,630 --> 01:38:51,430
So, sir, when OK, just taking out the Pair of Duty disability,

1072
01:38:53,490 --> 01:38:58,290
and asking staff to create, like, links to other initiatives,

1073
01:38:58,670 --> 01:39:01,590
and other things that we'd be supporting and bringing up back to Council

1074
01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:09,410
for I think bring it back to council for final approval or we can just approve it tonight too.

1075
01:39:09,630 --> 01:39:13,950
Yeah mayor council I think the email sent out had some of the links will add the other

1076
01:39:13,950 --> 01:39:19,710
two that weren't on there so you'll have all those at your disposal to check. You can wait

1077
01:39:19,710 --> 01:39:25,810
of the next meeting but if this is where we're at we just soon get our priorities done we can

1078
01:39:25,810 --> 01:39:31,190
always change them things do change at the capital from time to time. The session will start approximately

1079
01:39:31,190 --> 01:39:32,570
only when we have our first meeting.

1080
01:39:33,650 --> 01:39:33,690
Two.

1081
01:39:34,130 --> 01:39:36,130
So I'd be nice to have these ready to go.

1082
01:39:36,370 --> 01:39:39,470
Mayor, if I could just add that we do have a additional

1083
01:39:39,470 --> 01:39:42,090
page or website where we'll put this document.

1084
01:39:42,490 --> 01:39:44,710
So we'll ensure that those have clickable links.

1085
01:39:44,830 --> 01:39:47,750
So anybody from the public or our legislators have that.

1086
01:39:47,930 --> 01:39:50,230
We will also send whatever document the council approves

1087
01:39:50,850 --> 01:39:53,790
to the legislator to all of our legislators and their staff

1088
01:39:53,790 --> 01:39:55,650
so that they know what the cities parties are.

1089
01:39:55,870 --> 01:39:58,510
And we will be inviting our legislators to come to a meeting

1090
01:39:58,510 --> 01:39:59,930
sometime probably in January.

1091
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,800
I'm sorry to meet with all of you, so you all can share your priorities with them as well.

1092
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,020
Okay, Councillor Peterson.

1093
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:12,220
Do the other organizations like the Municipal Legislative Commissioner of the Legal Minicities and

1094
01:40:12,220 --> 01:40:16,400
Metricities do they also produce a similar type of document?

1095
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,160
Mayor and council, yes, say do. So if you look at any of their websites,

1096
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:25,560
like the leak has a top priorities item and they also have all of their policies available.

1097
01:40:26,220 --> 01:40:28,660
And all the policies that are looked at through different committee members,

1098
01:40:28,660 --> 01:40:31,620
made up of elected at a point in officials throughout the state.

1099
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:36,320
Yeah, I was thinking of that lead in paragraph at the very top, where, you know, where you

1100
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,780
reference each of those that you're, it says generally supportive of their legislative

1101
01:40:39,780 --> 01:40:44,480
platforms, where the reference to who even just linked their name to their document that

1102
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:45,820
would kind of tie it all together.

1103
01:40:49,970 --> 01:40:51,270
Okay, Councillor Nelson.

1104
01:40:52,930 --> 01:40:57,770
Yes, I'm supportive of the current priorities is laid out here.

1105
01:40:57,770 --> 01:41:05,470
I would highly recommend and I would approve loading on this tonight, although session doesn't start till January.

1106
01:41:06,510 --> 01:41:08,190
Discussions are already being had.

1107
01:41:08,570 --> 01:41:12,950
I'm sure our lobbyist would appreciate the direction as soon as possible.

1108
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:15,710
You know, it's kind of the early bird gets warm.

1109
01:41:16,130 --> 01:41:19,930
So if you want to priorities past, you got to be working on them while ahead of session.

1110
01:41:20,750 --> 01:41:22,970
So that would be my recommendation.

1111
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:24,150
Is that a motion?

1112
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:26,590
Yeah, it's going to move.

1113
01:41:27,210 --> 01:41:27,270
Okay.

1114
01:41:27,330 --> 01:41:28,150
I would again.

1115
01:41:29,050 --> 01:41:30,390
Real motion in a second.

1116
01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:31,270
Any other discussion?

1117
01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:31,870
Concerned.

1118
01:41:31,870 --> 01:41:32,270
Chasmic.

1119
01:41:32,370 --> 01:41:32,490
Then.

1120
01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:34,010
Thank you.

1121
01:41:34,150 --> 01:41:34,350
Yes.

1122
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:35,310
I support these.

1123
01:41:35,650 --> 01:41:36,810
Does the motion include.

1124
01:41:37,810 --> 01:41:38,250
Removing.

1125
01:41:38,570 --> 01:41:38,750
Pera.

1126
01:41:38,970 --> 01:41:39,390
Are you leaving.

1127
01:41:42,130 --> 01:41:43,370
That's what I wanted to talk about.

1128
01:41:44,190 --> 01:41:44,630
Okay.

1129
01:41:45,850 --> 01:41:46,430
My thoughts.

1130
01:41:46,850 --> 01:41:47,390
It doesn't.

1131
01:41:47,530 --> 01:41:47,590
It doesn't.

1132
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:48,750
It doesn't.

1133
01:41:48,750 --> 01:41:49,010
It doesn't.

1134
01:41:49,010 --> 01:41:49,990
It doesn't.

1135
01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:54,490
It doesn't.

1136
01:41:54,490 --> 01:42:01,810
to the council. Am I correct in that it was redundant like that's already been taken care of

1137
01:42:01,810 --> 01:42:08,990
last year? I would that's clear that's my question. I'd like to ask. Yeah I'm glad you're here in council.

1138
01:42:09,630 --> 01:42:19,550
It did pass last year and my I guess my only opinion with this is it's newer and with the way

1139
01:42:19,550 --> 01:42:25,390
era seems to fluctuate from time to time, depending on the way that the session goes.

1140
01:42:25,670 --> 01:42:29,390
It's something that could forget about, or be forgotten about very easily.

1141
01:42:29,650 --> 01:42:35,810
And even thinking about links, not so sure, I mean, they not even be a timely link out there.

1142
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:40,530
I'm, as we're talking about it, I've been looking at, I don't see anything because it's from

1143
01:42:40,530 --> 01:42:47,290
the last session, so it's nothing new that's going to, you know, probably be discussed

1144
01:42:47,290 --> 01:42:49,050
some legislative drive and heard anything yet,

1145
01:42:49,170 --> 01:42:50,810
but we're still a couple weeks away.

1146
01:42:51,870 --> 01:42:52,150
So, okay.

1147
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:55,830
Mayor and Council members, there was a change

1148
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:57,970
and the funding was increased.

1149
01:42:59,030 --> 01:43:01,990
However, whether it's honor, legislative priorities,

1150
01:43:02,230 --> 01:43:04,110
or not, Allianai will be working on this

1151
01:43:04,110 --> 01:43:06,530
because we are directly affected by this

1152
01:43:06,530 --> 01:43:08,950
and it costs potentially a lot of money.

1153
01:43:09,290 --> 01:43:12,470
And so we are gonna be pushing that with all these groups

1154
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:14,670
with whether it's on there or whether it isn't.

1155
01:43:22,930 --> 01:43:43,350
I would just say that I would recommend that my motion do include the parody disability, just to keep it in front of us, especially when it comes to making sure it has sufficient funding, you know, just because a law has been passed or it doesn't mean that it's necessarily going to get the funding if we don't keep it in front of us.

1156
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:45,610
So I'd like to keep that on there.

1157
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:46,070
Is that good?

1158
01:43:46,230 --> 01:43:47,250
I agree.

1159
01:43:48,110 --> 01:43:48,390
Go ahead.

1160
01:43:48,630 --> 01:43:49,230
Councilor Trust me.

1161
01:43:49,570 --> 01:43:50,210
Thank you.

1162
01:43:50,670 --> 01:43:50,690
Yeah.

1163
01:43:50,690 --> 01:43:52,850
And I would support that.

1164
01:43:53,210 --> 01:44:01,510
And also, with support, Council Member Gregor's idea to have a bulletin list of metro-wide initiatives

1165
01:44:01,510 --> 01:44:06,930
that Plymouth is in line with, so that way when lobbyists have other opportunities come up in discussion

1166
01:44:07,490 --> 01:44:11,410
that there's a backup list of things that we're not leading.

1167
01:44:11,410 --> 01:44:24,150
We're not the lead on, but we support the folks that are, and maybe a little direction about, you know, if there's any pitfalls or anything that we'd want to avoid on those two.

1168
01:44:24,830 --> 01:44:31,830
Yeah, and Dave just told me that they have that available, so they can do anything to them or something to the legislative priorities.

1169
01:44:34,250 --> 01:44:39,350
Any other discussion? There's a motion in a second. All those in favor say aye.

1170
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:47,750
I opposed and that passes. Next we have item 8.3 which is what was 6.2.2.2.

1171
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:50,030
It comes from our Chosmic U.S. at this item be pulled.

1172
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:57,190
Thank you. Yep. It's the final payment for Fire Station 2 and I just want to again

1173
01:44:57,190 --> 01:44:59,970
thank our chief cop-up for we-

1174
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:12,680
I think that incredible process to take our fire response to the next level. And I saw an opportunity

1175
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:19,600
here to also potentially address the concerns of some residents have about fire station number

1176
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:24,960
one closing, and so we wanted to just provide the opportunity to talk about the relationship

1177
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:34,740
of how fire station two effects what's happening with fire station one and also I'm curious what's next.

1178
01:45:36,140 --> 01:45:42,660
What are you know now that fire station two is complete what what are some of the upcoming

1179
01:45:42,660 --> 01:45:49,870
priorities for the fire department. Mayor also member Chasnic thank you first of all so

1180
01:45:49,870 --> 01:45:56,010
the fire station. I happened to be the head of the department while it was built, but it was a

1181
01:45:56,010 --> 01:45:56,770
great team effort.

1182
01:45:58,850 --> 01:46:01,950
I want to make sure I got a fleet and facilities manager, Amy Hanson,

1183
01:46:02,070 --> 01:46:08,830
as in the back of the room, was critical as well as recently retired deputy chief Fedon.

1184
01:46:08,830 --> 01:46:14,990
And I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

1185
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:20,510
That W Chief Drillin. With the assistance of many other city staff.

1186
01:46:21,410 --> 01:46:25,590
So, you know, I think there's some of our names on a plaque at the new station,

1187
01:46:26,210 --> 01:46:30,130
but, you know, many names on that plaque did not have a direct hand in that,

1188
01:46:30,570 --> 01:46:31,730
but it was a great group effort.

1189
01:46:32,370 --> 01:46:35,390
So, I also want to thank Council for being very supportive in the community,

1190
01:46:35,390 --> 01:46:37,690
being a very supportive for that entire project.

1191
01:46:38,490 --> 01:46:43,530
That was the result of safety needs and staffing needs.

1192
01:46:43,890 --> 01:46:46,330
We changed to a combination model and added clear staff,

1193
01:46:46,510 --> 01:46:47,930
so we needed to update our stations.

1194
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:51,530
I'm not prepared to have a presentation.

1195
01:46:51,910 --> 01:46:54,190
I'm not necessarily prepared to present anything tonight.

1196
01:46:55,070 --> 01:46:57,810
Future conversations are welcome, any other future conversations.

1197
01:46:59,270 --> 01:47:04,270
But just very briefly the station one.

1198
01:47:04,270 --> 01:47:08,130
Um, you know, it's, it is difficult.

1199
01:47:08,410 --> 01:47:12,370
At these days to hire, this isn't firefighters, um, volunteers,

1200
01:47:12,730 --> 01:47:15,390
pay on call, part-time on call, whatever you want to call them.

1201
01:47:16,030 --> 01:47:19,510
Um, we did make the decision to take those personnel that were assigned

1202
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:23,210
to that station and move them to station two and station three,

1203
01:47:23,290 --> 01:47:28,270
the two staff stations, better utilize the, the personnel that we had left

1204
01:47:28,270 --> 01:47:28,950
that station.

1205
01:47:29,670 --> 01:47:33,590
Um, the goal ultimately is to continue to recruit,

1206
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:40,550
the goal is some point to reopen that station. It is a just a call-back station under a current model.

1207
01:47:41,070 --> 01:47:45,570
Anyways, so our daily response is very effective out of our two staff stations.

1208
01:47:46,370 --> 01:47:52,550
Like I said, other than that, I don't necessarily have anything directly prepared that I can necessarily present tonight,

1209
01:47:52,810 --> 01:47:58,070
but if that's something we can definitely have future conversations on. Hopefully I answered your questions.

1210
01:47:58,650 --> 01:48:00,270
Thank you.

1211
01:48:00,270 --> 01:48:02,670
and motion to approve payment.

1212
01:48:03,010 --> 01:48:03,790
We have a motion to approve.

1213
01:48:03,930 --> 01:48:05,010
Do we have a second?

1214
01:48:05,210 --> 01:48:05,710
Second.

1215
01:48:06,250 --> 01:48:08,210
Any other discussion on this item?

1216
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:10,430
All those tables say aye.

1217
01:48:10,490 --> 01:48:10,930
Aye.

1218
01:48:11,470 --> 01:48:11,970
Opposed?

1219
01:48:12,490 --> 01:48:13,130
And that passes.

1220
01:48:13,410 --> 01:48:15,430
Debra, are there any reports of staff recommendations?

1221
01:48:17,770 --> 01:48:20,390
And then we, at our last meeting of the year,

1222
01:48:20,490 --> 01:48:23,190
we all is recessed to an establishment,

1223
01:48:23,650 --> 01:48:25,670
just to kind of celebrate the year.

1224
01:48:26,050 --> 01:48:27,070
And the holiday season,

1225
01:48:27,070 --> 01:48:30,950
So we will be recessing to Rock Island Tavern for that.

1226
01:48:31,450 --> 01:48:32,230
So thank you everyone.