1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,680 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:14,120 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 3 00:00:10,559 --> 00:00:14,120 justice for all. 4 00:00:14,719 --> 00:00:21,240 » Now, the first order of business is the minutes from February. 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Has everybody had a chance to review them? 6 00:00:25,119 --> 00:00:30,720 » Mhm. >> Yes. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:36,719 And Paul, are you good on them? >> Uh, I was good. Yeah, assuming that the 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,559 just the one correction was made that they discussed. 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:44,079 » She did. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I think um 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,480 » yeah, they somehow with it. Yeah. >> Uh, can I have a motion to approve the 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,520 minutes? >> I make a motion. Second. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:55,719 » All in favor? >> I I 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,719 All right. 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:08,000 And the first order of business tonight is a area variance for 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Mr. Harris here. 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,479 161 Columbia Hill Road. 17 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,520 Uh Brandon, can you give us a brief summary of what you're planning up 18 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:29,920 there? >> Yes. So, I currently have two existing 19 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:33,439 garages, two car that sit adjacent to each other. There a small gap between 20 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:38,960 them. And I'm looking to take both of those down, replace them with a similar 21 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:45,560 size 30x60. So, we'll pretty much fill that same 22 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,560 foot, the two existing structures. 23 00:01:45,759 --> 00:01:54,240 So, uh according to this application, so the requested dimension here, 3.8, 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,720 that's uh 3.8 8 ft from the property line. Is that the closest that the 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,439 garage get? >> So on the map, 26 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,000 » it's going to be those two structures there. 27 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:12,160 » And that's the closest to the boundary is on the corner of that 28 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,360 one. It's slightly skewed from the property line. 29 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:19,840 » But I was just looking to maintain that rear line of those two structures and 30 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:23,440 build. But they would bas this would just basically become one 31 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:27,360 » one structure. >> Yes. There should be another drawing on 32 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,840 there that I >> like sketched over top of 33 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,800 » that one. >> Yep. 34 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,599 » Okay. >> Yeah, that's just a rough. 35 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,800 » Is the height roughly the same as the >> That's going to be slightly taller. 36 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:50,239 Those are going to be 12t walls with a 412 pitch roof. So it'll be slightly 37 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:56,959 taller than what's existing. Currently it's a 8ft wall with like a 312 pitch 38 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:00,560 roof on it. It's still meeting that. >> I see one correction on your 39 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:05,599 application. There you are limited to 20 ft for an accessory structure. 40 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:09,040 » I don't know if that'll come into play for you. 41 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Uh but you can get a variance for the height too if 42 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,760 » you want to pursue it, >> but code is 20 ft 43 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,680 » for height >> or for height. 44 00:03:14,959 --> 00:03:19,280 » Okay. So I don't know how you're let's see 45 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:23,920 » putting it together. >> Yep. 46 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:30,040 » But again should be under on that. >> Yeah. On a 412 with the 12T wall. It 47 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:30,040 should be under on that 48 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:38,959 accessory. >> And also for accessory structure u 49 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:45,360 they're down at 20 ft. Not that it helps your situation too much here, but um or 50 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:47,920 is that considered a rear set back? No. The way you have it designed technically 51 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,239 is >> right. 52 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:54,000 » Yeah, that's side step set back. So, 53 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,480 » so it's restructured at 20 ft. >> Well, only 20 ft is required. 54 00:03:55,519 --> 00:03:59,200 » Only 20, right? >> Less I guess. 55 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,439 » Little less than what you're >> less than the 25. 56 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:04,560 » We have to adjust. >> The max he site is 20 ft. 57 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 » Yep. >> Mhm. 58 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:08,959 » Yeah. Yeah, it should be under by the time it's all said and done with that. 59 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,319 » Under 20 ft. >> It would be. 60 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:17,000 » Okay. >> Yeah. With 412. It's a very shallow 61 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,000 pitch roof on it. So, 62 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,840 all right. 63 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:32,560 We have any other questions? I'll uh schedule a public hearing for 64 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:41,000 your >> neighbor aware. Yes. 65 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:41,000 discussions with them. They're all 66 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:49,960 » the public hearing will be for April the 16th 67 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,960 7:00. 68 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Very good. Okay. So, do we need to we need to vote to set that public hearing, 69 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:02,000 right? So, I'll move that we set the public hearing for April 16th at 7 70 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:04,800 o'clock. >> I'll second. All in favor? 71 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,800 » I >> I 72 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,479 got you. 73 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:24,479 » Question. Did you guys want to keep that or give it back to 74 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:28,240 the copy? >> I got a copy. 75 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:34,479 » I think we all do. I think this is >> Yeah. 76 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:40,360 and I'll just >> I'll let you know when I'm coming. 77 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Thank you. 78 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Next up is a public hearing for a use variance application 79 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:07,960 for 360 80 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Sners Corners Oh, 81 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,759 could you raise a hand 82 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:45,280 on Thursday, March 19, 2026? Hotel 38 Davis Drive 83 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:49,440 to review the new application submitted by Christina to change the use of the 84 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:55,680 building from office and storage for plumbing business to office and storage 85 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:59,680 warehouse located. Copies of the application and supporting 86 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,840 documents are available at the town hall and are available for public inspection 87 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:08,319 during regular business hours. All interested will be heard at the public 88 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:22,319 We can open the public hearing, but I would ask everyone to any comments, 89 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:28,400 questions, and direct them to the board and keep the conversation civil. 90 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:36,560 » What's being proposed exactly? uh a use variance to um what was 91 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:41,919 previously a um office storage for a plumbing business. They want to just 92 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:46,960 open it up to a general open warehouse storage operation. 93 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:51,599 Eliminate the plumbing business part of it. 94 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:56,479 » Change of ownership. Change of ownership. 95 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:02,240 » There will be is my understanding. I mean from the original 96 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:04,800 from the original variance >> when was your 97 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,599 » there was an already one. So it was something that was grandfathered in 98 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,000 whenever the zoning was put in place. The plumbing business was there and so 99 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,440 it was allowed to continue. >> That owner is gone. 100 00:08:11,039 --> 00:08:18,639 » That owner Yeah. So uh yes Christina is now uh bought the property from that 101 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,199 person some time ago. Well I think you mentioned in the letter that you 102 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:27,360 actually obtained it by foreclosure. >> I I did. That's that is how I how I 103 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:33,039 obtained it. Um, so I I've owned it for 3 years. We the the business has still 104 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:37,519 been operating out of there. Um, but the person who, you know, obviously 105 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:43,760 who had owned the building defaulted, so I took ownership of it. Um, I've tried 106 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:50,320 to sell it and with selling it as a business um, for plumbing only. I've had 107 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:55,839 two or two contracts fall through because they were told that it was only 108 00:08:52,720 --> 00:09:00,560 for it was residential actually. Um so they backed out of it and now I have 109 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:05,760 another contract and one of the contingencies in the contract is that I 110 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:10,480 get it the plumbing dropped and it's just office and storage um and 111 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:17,760 warehouse. And at the last meeting, we had discussed um possibly doing a list 112 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:22,880 of businesses so it wasn't so vague. And that's what I presented in 113 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,920 » the additional letter. Um and I I think that they're all pretty much like the 114 00:09:24,959 --> 00:09:32,000 same >> but just you know like just said. So it 115 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:36,080 would be property management maintenance office with equipment storage, vehicle 116 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:40,959 and boat storage, real estate construction, electrical and plumbing 117 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:46,080 office with storage, warehouse space with no showroom uh for internet sales 118 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:50,320 overflow. So if I was to sell something or the new owner was to sell stuff on 119 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:54,720 the internet, they would be able to house the product in the warehouse 120 00:09:52,320 --> 00:10:00,320 space. Um and then equipment and tool storage 121 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,320 and it would be inside. 122 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,959 So all these things that nothing would overflow up. 123 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:10,640 » No, it's not going outside. Again, we talked about last time like the property 124 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:15,760 maintenance. You know, he could have a pickup truck or a skid steer. Yeah, they 125 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:20,800 could possibly There's a space behind the building. That stuff could be parked 126 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,600 behind the building. I mean, the stuff is parked behind the building now. I 127 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:28,079 mean, I think there's a boat trailer back there now. Um, the equipment's 128 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:32,160 probably not back there right now cuz it's on job sites, but when it's not on 129 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:37,800 a job site, it comes back and it's parked there now. So, in reality, 130 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,800 nothing's changing. 131 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,600 » Anyone else to open the public hearing first? 132 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,240 » We have to open the public hearing first. 133 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:56,399 » All right. I'll make a motion we open the public hearing. 134 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,440 » Second. >> All in favor? 135 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:04,839 » I. >> And now, anyone have any comments, 136 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:04,839 questions? 137 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:15,839 » I'll speak. My name is Matt Cypriion. I am the prospective buyer of this 138 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:19,600 property. Um, my my wife and I own other properties. 139 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,120 This is going to be somewhere to just store our equipment mostly inside. As 140 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,440 Christina said, the truck might be outside the back, but there's not going 141 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:32,800 to be it's it's going to be for our use. It's 142 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:37,440 me, my wife, and my son. That's it. So, there's we don't have a field a field of 143 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:42,880 employees. We don't have, you know, whatever. And um I I own other 144 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:46,640 properties that that in the town of Waterford and North Greenbush and and I 145 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:51,040 I certainly can give you the addresses to show you that we're not looking to 146 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:54,880 slum anything up. you know, I understand what the environment is and where it is 147 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:58,800 and it's in somebody's residential neighborhood and we will certainly be 148 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:04,399 respectful of that. Um, but we we are certainly looking to 149 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:08,920 use the building as it is and has been for however you want. 150 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,639 » Um, I have a question. >> Sure. 151 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:19,680 » Um, when you filled out your form, >> Yeah. There was like question four and 152 00:12:16,959 --> 00:12:24,320 five you didn't answer but one of the other questions on the back is number 153 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:30,480 20. Has the site of the proposed action or an adjoining property has been 154 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:34,959 subject to remediation um ongoing or completed for hazardous waste? 155 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:38,800 » It's not it's not that property is not adjacent to that. So you're talking 156 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:43,839 about the corner property that's being remediated. It's not adjacent. There's a 157 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:49,680 piece of property in between it. But isn't the piece of property, the 158 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:53,200 garage, let's say, uh, behind that there is where all the tires are. 159 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:56,320 » Could I interrupt just Stephanie? Are you getting everybody's names? Normally 160 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,720 at the public hearings, the people identify themselves and don't cross 161 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:02,000 talk. >> I know some of them. So I am 162 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:06,560 » and they don't cross talk. They go through the uh 163 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:11,440 » Okay. So as far as the remediation portion of the what he's talking about, 164 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:20,240 the remediation is on the corner piece of property. It's not on 354 342. 354 165 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:23,920 and 342 are in the middle. You have the corner over here and then you have the 166 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,120 building to the left. We're talking right now about the building on the 167 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:31,880 left. The remediation is all the way on the corner. It's not adjacent to that 168 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,880 property. 169 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:38,320 » So, has that property been subdivided already? Is this 170 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:42,880 » No. No. I've never I've never owned any of it that and then subdivided it. No. 171 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,079 No. Are you talking about when I was here before the sub? 172 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:50,639 » It was approved. >> Again, those two pieces of property are 173 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:54,880 not part of the remediation project. >> Those two, it has been approved to 174 00:13:52,160 --> 00:14:00,560 subdivide the house out. I haven't filed the map yet. I just got it stamped by 175 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:03,920 the county yesterday or the day before. >> Okay. So, the variance that we're 176 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,160 talking about is strictly for the property in which 177 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:11,079 » the variance that we're strictly talking about 360. It's the building on the 178 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:11,079 left. 179 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:23,199 Okay. So, I mean the questions that I had from last time, I mean it looks like 180 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:31,360 you at least um somewhat addressed them. One, so the 181 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:36,399 competent financial uh uh analysis show >> So, I tried to I tried to say, okay, I 182 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:41,839 can I can't rehab the building to build a house. That's that's ridiculous. So, I 183 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:48,720 got approved to tear it down >> and I got I called CGM Construction and 184 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:52,639 got quoted $400 a square foot to build a house. Okay. 185 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:56,160 » So, you're talking about minimally $400,000 and that's just to construct 186 00:14:54,639 --> 00:15:00,160 the house. That's not to put in the foundation or anything of the sort, but 187 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:07,199 I'll say $400,000 because I can do the foundation myself, right? Mhm. 188 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:13,199 » Or I did a I did a prefab and just the building itself for I think it was 1,200 189 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:17,120 square ft was 125,000. But then I have to have all these other subcontractors 190 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:21,279 come in, electrical, plumbing, the foundation, the site work, the water, 191 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:25,600 the septic or the sewer if I want to connect. Like all of that just adds to 192 00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:31,680 it. I don't have the money to do it. So it is a financial hardship. So I just 193 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:35,760 want to sell it and be done with it. Okay. And that's understandable. It's 194 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:41,760 just the requirement that you've done. >> But I tried to answer I tried to give 195 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:47,839 you as many different options that I could. Um I can't I can't turn the 196 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:53,279 building as is into a house. >> Right. I mean, and that's like the the 197 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:57,920 two options are basically a house or one of the you know, there's a number of 198 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:01,440 options that are businesses that you can run in a residential zone. There's not 199 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:05,600 too many. uh or the plumbing business obviously. So um as long as you've 200 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:10,800 considered all those I think that's what we were asking 201 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,519 and then the other one is um about whether it's a self-created hardship or 202 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:21,040 not. Um so >> so I don't feel that I self-created it. 203 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:26,320 Um I somebody took a loan out from me, >> used it as collateral and then didn't 204 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:29,839 pay the loan. So, I had no choice. But >> that that was my question was whether it 205 00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:33,199 was uh you foreclosed on somebody or whether you picked it up at 206 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,199 » No, no, no. I I did the foreclosure proceeding. 207 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:41,839 » Oh, so you foreclosed on it. >> Correct. Okay. 208 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,839 » Like I was the lender. >> Okay. 209 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:55,759 » Um and then where was this list of things that you were? So in the letter 210 00:16:54,639 --> 00:17:00,759 that I drafted, >> oh this one towards the second 211 00:17:00,959 --> 00:17:04,920 » the second to last paragraph. 212 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:18,039 » Okay. So, uh, property management maintenance office with equipment 213 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,039 storage. 214 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:33,039 Okay. So, I mean, the suggestion is that this would be almost exclusively inside. 215 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,400 Is that right? >> Yeah. 216 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:40,720 » Okay. again. But I I can't say that we're not a truck isn't going to be 217 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:46,960 parked outside or a piece of equipment. There is a section behind the building 218 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:52,000 that is an open space. So it will I'm I mean you're going to see stuff in the 219 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:54,960 back if you drive and stop. They'll be you can't limit you know what I mean the 220 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,559 guy. >> Yeah. I mean Yeah. I mean so we're not 221 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:02,640 talking about you know a truck or two outside but Yeah. So 222 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,720 » there's not going to be shelves of >> I don't know like whatever's going on 223 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,200 behind you over there is what I'm trying to make sure that it's not 224 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,400 » Yeah, exactly. >> So I'm not sure where the I know that's 225 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,400 not you. >> Um 226 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,480 now will the trailers that are parked there now will they be gone? 227 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:26,919 » So they're not on the property of 360. They're at 354. 228 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:26,919 » Okay. 229 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:36,559 I think not sure how related it is but the 230 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:39,919 so what is the situation with those other properties which were subdivided 231 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:45,840 as the so we act on this this property and then 232 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,320 the other two are still limited to the plumbing business. 233 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:52,480 » No but Paul has identified one issue that 234 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:57,520 one of your conditions if you do grant approval would be the finalization of 235 00:18:54,880 --> 00:19:01,520 your subdivision. So you know how you said you filed this 236 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:06,080 » they can as part of what they do they can require that that be done because 237 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,400 that's a parcel >> there they're separate parcels though it 238 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:11,520 has nothing to do >> this parcel wasn't part of the 239 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:13,360 subdivision application >> it's totally separate 240 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:17,200 » totally separate >> then I am mistaken and I was mistaken 241 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:23,840 why why are all these >> I think because the map show I assume 242 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:29,120 you own all three properties so but just 360 is its own lot the 243 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:33,039 for this issue should be ignored essentially. 244 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:37,200 » So I understand 360 was a prior existing lot uh prior to you doing your 245 00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:44,640 subdivision on other parcels. >> 360 has always been separate one parcel. 246 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:50,400 354 and 342 which are in the middle are one parcel. And then the vacant land 247 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:54,799 that doesn't have address is one parcel. They've never been three. The three of 248 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:58,559 them have never been one. So 30 years ago, the people that ran the plumbing 249 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:02,640 business weren't the same people that own those other parcels. 250 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:05,679 » No. See, this is helpful. We're getting to the bottom of it. 251 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:11,360 » Okay. So, I misunderstood that. >> I did, too. I did, too. 252 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:16,640 » Um, okay. So, yeah. So, we're only talking about that. 253 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:21,679 » Now, if we go back further, when Huittz owned it, Huittz owned all of it. Then 254 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:27,520 the plumbing business bought the the small piece where the plumbing No. Um 255 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:31,039 the the plumbing business bought it from Valenni. 256 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:34,640 » So I think that >> Valenni must have bought it from 257 00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:37,919 » Yeah. >> So 258 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:42,000 I I don't know. But >> we're going back 40 50 years ago. 259 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,720 » I'm only here for 360. I'm just >> right 260 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,240 » talking about the one building. >> I don't know anything else. 261 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:53,120 » So at some point 50 60 years ago, 70 years ago, maybe it was owned by one 262 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:56,960 owner. Maybe he who knows. But since the Valentes probably took it, it's been on 263 00:20:55,919 --> 00:20:59,039 a separate parcel. >> Correct. 264 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:03,200 » Okay. >> And with the last meeting, there was a 265 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:09,559 there was a map attached that showed very clearly the lot lines. And 266 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,559 » I thought those were proposed lots. 267 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:17,200 » I think that >> and Mr. Crian is here. So, you have a 268 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:23,280 rare opportunity to ask the proposed new owner exactly what the intention is with 269 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:28,240 the uh the building and land. >> If he wants to elaborate on that. 270 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:34,799 » Yeah, like I said, I have right now I have a skid steer. I have uh two plow 271 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:38,080 trucks and I have um two trailers that I'm going to I'm going to put there. And 272 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,480 my intention is to put them in the back away from everybody so you can't see. I 273 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:46,960 know on the side with the propane tank, you can see that from the road. I'm not 274 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:51,840 opposed to putting a fence uh uh stockade privacy type fence there to 275 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:58,000 keep that from from out of view because again, I understand where it is. But um 276 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:02,000 you know, there's not anybody that knows me knows I'm not a mechanic, so I will 277 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:05,280 not be there uh working on whatever. It's more or less to keep my stuff in 278 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:10,400 out of the weather because right now it's at one of my other properties just 279 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:16,400 sitting out in the weather 365 days a year and I'm looking to correct that. 280 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:20,400 » So, Mr. Criani, you're going to inside the building maybe store some vehicles 281 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:27,200 or >> Yep. And and uh potentially outside 282 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:31,840 there there will probably be um trailer a I have a dump trailer and a 16T flat 283 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:35,840 deck trailer. And um you know, as far as there's not 284 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:41,039 going to be shelves, there's not going to be piles of whatever out there. Um 285 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:43,520 you know, I won't say that my truck won't be out there if I'm doing 286 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:49,919 something in the garage and I need the space. But as far as 287 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:54,080 inventory for sale and you know there won't we're not doing 288 00:22:51,039 --> 00:23:00,159 » no retail sale from that site. Gotcha. >> Did that prompt any question from the 289 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:04,000 board member? Board members. No, I I am all my questions and concerns have been 290 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:08,679 addressed through the paperwork and and the letter that have been provided. So, 291 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,520 » and uh I don't know if you asked this last time, but uh Mr. Cypriani, would 292 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,159 you be putting up any new kind of signage or anything? 293 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,760 » No. >> Okay. Would you need any kind of 294 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:28,480 building permits uh for your proposed use? Are you renovating it at all? Um I 295 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,960 I plan on doing something with the outside, but I'm not it at this point 296 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:39,200 I'm not 100% sure what I'm going to be doing. So I don't know, you know, and 297 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:41,919 and I I know um >> right. I you know, I'm not sure if I'm 298 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:46,159 just going to paint or we're going to siding up or how that and and I know uh 299 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:50,159 Tracy Church, so I can certainly reach out and discuss it with him 300 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,799 » as it moves forward to >> make sure that we're all in 301 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,640 » right >> agreement. If you are going to be doing 302 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,960 certain things with the building, you may need building permits. And depending 303 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,960 on what you do outside, you may need some site plan approval. 304 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:07,679 » Okay. >> Uh but for their purposes, I think you 305 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,320 gave them a good flavor for what the intention is for the for the building 306 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:16,400 and grounds. >> Yeah. To be honest, it 307 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:20,559 would if you remove the word plumbing, we're going to fit in what the existing 308 00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:23,679 use has been. We're not, you know, again, it's not going to be a retail 309 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,840 store. There's going to be no customers per se. We don't we don't have 310 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:32,400 customers. I own property. So, unless a tenant shows up to drop rent off, which 311 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:37,279 will be the extent of it. Uh there's not going to be anybody 312 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:41,120 even coming or going aside from probably myself, my wife, or my son. 313 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:46,080 » And I'm not sure if they they have in the record what kind of business you run 314 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:49,279 through. If you want to just tell them, >> we own property, so it's going to fall 315 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:57,039 probably most directly under the property management. um company. 316 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:01,360 » So, not you don't run a construction business or excavation business, things 317 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,679 like that. So, the vehicles you're describing are mainly going to be 318 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:08,559 vehicles you use in property management. >> Correct. 319 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,080 » And they're all they're well they're they're under my 320 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,520 business name, but they're they're mine. It's not, 321 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:19,279 » you know, there's not going to be >> Right. It's just trying to get a clear 322 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:24,400 record of exactly what the new intended use is because they one thing the zoning 323 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:29,600 board may end up doing is limiting to what we're just talking about now 324 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:37,200 because there's if they do grant u an extension of the prior uh use uh they 325 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:39,679 are supposed to do it as limiting as possible 326 00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:43,279 » like you're not supposed to be able to say okay and you can put anything you 327 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:49,679 want in there and all that. So, >> so that was why they had asked for spec 328 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:51,520 a list of specific >> business types. 329 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,600 » Correct. >> And that that was why we gave a a list 330 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,360 and we limited that. I mean, I could have made it a list of 50. No, 331 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,679 » there's like six or seven there, you know, and they're they're all relatively 332 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:06,640 the same, just using different words. >> They are. 333 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,440 » And Mr. is definitely your buyer that you intend to sell to. 334 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:14,720 » Yeah, they have a copy of they have a copy of the contract. 335 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,559 They have a copy of the contract. Um, and in the contract there is the 336 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:23,039 contingency that this is approved. >> So if it's not approved, Mr. Sabriani is 337 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:27,799 » going to shake your hand and walk walk the other way. Gotcha. 338 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,799 » Yeah. 339 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:44,159 Well, I still just mentioned u if we uh should we modify what uh 340 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,799 Christina put in this uh opening statement here as 341 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:54,000 far as multiple things that will could be used for or would be used for. Um as 342 00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:57,600 you mentioned, we're obligated to make it as 343 00:26:54,559 --> 00:27:01,840 » narrow narrow and minimal as possible. Um, 344 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:07,440 I really don't have any problems with anything that Christina 345 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:11,240 listed. Um, this would kind of 346 00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:19,200 again open the door for whatever Mr. Criani might want to do down the road. 347 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:25,840 Um, if we left it the way it is right now, he would have that window to 348 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:29,039 explore any other type of business or activity you might want to use the 349 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:34,320 grounds for rather than go through this. Again, if you wanted to, you know, 350 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,440 change the use for the building. >> I'm on the downhill side, so I'm 351 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,320 » Oh, >> I'm good with I'm good with what I'm 352 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,720 doing. If anything, it's going to get a lot less. 353 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,640 » All right. Um, >> yeah, I was okay with that that list, I 354 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:50,640 I mean, maybe I read it one more time, but yeah, I think it's better to make it 355 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:55,279 not quite so narrow that you can't do anything with it or you know that you 356 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,640 can't sell it again. Uh, so I mean, we do recognize that the variance goes with 357 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:05,600 the property, not >> not with you personally unless it gets 358 00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:09,279 um if if the use ceases I think for a year, uh, then it kind of starts over. 359 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:12,399 » Yeah. which I think maybe was not true with 360 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:17,440 the existing one because it was grandfathered in, but if we granted use 361 00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:22,640 variance and it would um so if you stop using it for this use then it would 362 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:30,080 revert to residential again which that was our last issue last time. Um, so but 363 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:35,679 I I think that uh yeah, I think >> I did mle over some conditions. Um, 364 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:43,520 » uh, nothing hazardous, no flammable liquids, gas, 365 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:48,159 uh, any anything like that. >> That could pose a environmental risk. 366 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:56,679 Um, also the idea of maybe uh 367 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:56,679 keeping a building um 368 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:05,919 uh nope. I guess what I'm after is no subleting. Um you can't rent out rent 369 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:10,240 out the front the office. Uh the building has to remain under one 370 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,480 energy or owner. >> Okay. 371 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,640 » Not dual use. You wouldn't be able to do dual use where you're running you're 372 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:19,200 running whatever you're running and then someone else is running some other 373 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,080 business. >> Okay. 374 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,000 » Out of there. >> Right. 375 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,880 » Right. That's what you're talking about. >> That's what I was trying to get to. 376 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:32,960 » Um anyone else? And since it and since it 377 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:40,000 is like in the residential area, I mean just um upkeep of the of the building, 378 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:43,360 you know, so it kind of, >> you know, make sure it's painted and 379 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:48,799 Yeah. you know, make sure it's painted and 380 00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:53,840 » New York State Maintenance Act. Yeah. >> She is right that under our current 381 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:58,960 code, uh, you do have to maintain, anybody has to maintain their property 382 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:02,480 in a safe and proper condition. And if not, the code enforcement officer comes 383 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,520 and knocks on your door. >> But I but I did take a stroll. That 384 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,720 building really does seem to be in very good shape. 385 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,960 » Yeah, there's some there's some stuff we'll 386 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:16,000 we'll we'll look at and um you know, I I'll work with with Tracy and 387 00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:19,000 » yeah, >> we'll 388 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:28,240 just getting back to your proposed um we don't want to call it condition. I 389 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,520 mean, so if we're allowing construction electrical plumbing office and the 390 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:37,760 plumbing office is already allowed, I mean, that could almost certainly have 391 00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:40,760 some hazardous materials like sort of by definition, 392 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:49,679 settling torches or something for plumbing businesses or it is gases, 393 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:54,720 things like that. So, I mean, obviously, we don't want them 394 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,200 storing nuclear waste there. So >> hazardous material would be inherent of 395 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,640 that. >> Well, just remember if this is approved, 396 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,279 the uh Tracy has to come and visit you every now and again and do a safety 397 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,520 inspection. >> Yeah, 398 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,679 » he's got it. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, I just want to make 399 00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:16,320 sure that it's that requirement is not so tight that it 400 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:21,440 kind of excludes this particular use or else get rid of this use this allowed 401 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:26,880 use. I think like you know materials inherent to these types of businesses 402 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:31,919 can be allowed but no businesses that handle as their business hazardous 403 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:37,039 materials chemical processing or no chemical sales or 404 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:40,640 » or storage. We had a just down the road somebody storing a lot of propane tanks 405 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,240 they weren't supposed to be storing. Do you remember what happened? 406 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,559 » And uh we have to do the safety inspections all over. As you know, uh 407 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:55,279 there was a very significant fire at 43 Mall and thank goodness there had been 408 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:59,559 inspections done to verify. So, uh Tracy has to enforce the code. 409 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:09,760 » I know you had a question. >> I just wanted to say Frankurt 27 Hickory 410 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:15,279 Hill. Um we just have very little stock of places where you can have a business. 411 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:21,039 have somebody local who wants to take it and use it. It's been used that way for 412 00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:25,000 years and I think it's I just in favor of having something like that. 413 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:40,200 Excuse me. >> So, 414 00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:40,200 do we have anyone else? 415 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:48,000 I'm not hearing a reason to keep the public hearing open, guys. I'm sorry. I 416 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,360 don't see it either. >> No. 417 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:56,279 » So, if you close the public hearing, you have 62 days to render your decision. 418 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,600 » Can I make a motion to close the public hearing? 419 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,600 » You can do a second. >> All in favor? Hi. 420 00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:10,880 » Hi. >> Does the board need 62 days to make a 421 00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:14,480 decision? >> I didn't know if you needed to talk to 422 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,159 Mr. Howard about the conditions unless you're pretty satisfied you know what 423 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:20,960 conditions you want. Then you don't have to wait at all. Okay. 424 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:28,679 » Uh >> I I feel that I can make a decision 425 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,679 tonight. Um how does the rest feel? 426 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,279 » You're okay. Nicole, how are you feeling about it? 427 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,679 » I'm fine. I can >> I am too. 428 00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:49,039 » So, I just leave that planning board business. 429 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:53,760 » Yeah. Well, what >> I see a lot of boards do is uh if they 430 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:58,080 do approve something, they include verbiage that says uh and this approval 431 00:33:56,159 --> 00:34:03,519 is subject to the applicant receiving any and all necessary uh municipal 432 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:07,279 approvals. And what that would mean is as part of this operation, if the 433 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:13,520 applicant needed to get something from department of health or uh from the town 434 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:18,159 uh code enforcement office, whatever, you're covering yourselves. 435 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:21,839 And if there's nothing that's needed, you're okay, too. 436 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:26,560 Okay. Yeah. I think it was just a question about whether or not we needed 437 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:30,720 sort of uh any to present it to the planning board as kind of a you know an 438 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:35,200 issue for them to review and give us any feedback on. Um so I know there's number 439 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:40,320 of planning >> that is an option you would have you 440 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:45,200 could uh close the meeting and then tonight uh refer it over to the planning 441 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:49,040 board for their review for them to then get back to you. They'd have to do it 442 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:53,280 quick because you still only have the 62 days. Uh 443 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:58,079 but I'm not sure what would be in front of the planning board. 444 00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:02,720 » Okay. Yeah. I mean I guess part of my concern about that was just cuz I I 445 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:09,280 under misapprehension that this the >> you and I both Yeah. 446 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:12,640 » uh subdivisions were happening. So >> yeah, if nobody else is concerned about 447 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:18,320 it, then I guess I'm >> um I I do have a question about the 448 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:23,119 where are we documenting the business types that she's listed? Is this going 449 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,160 in the condition section of this or is this going elsewhere? 450 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,960 » That's a good good question. Very often it's one of two ways. Either a a person 451 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:36,320 makes a motion basically reads the resolution. Let's say it's approval 452 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:40,880 approving and reads the conditions into the record. Okay. Other times they don't 453 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:46,320 do it tonight. Instead, one of you would then work it all up, circulate it, and 454 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:50,560 then at your next mo uh meeting, read the resolution with conditions into the 455 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:54,240 record and approve it. >> Put it here. 456 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:58,960 » I mean, I think yeah, this that is the primary thing that we're approving, 457 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,040 right, is uh expanded use 458 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,680 » like that versus this. >> So, it's not a condition. It's it's 459 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,359 actually voting. >> As long as that person over there gets a 460 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,680 nice clear copy of whatever they're doing. 461 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:16,640 » Okay. Yeah. I'm trying. >> Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean, in like maybe 462 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,960 this we haven't been doing it right, but that's not the way in general that we 463 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:25,440 have. We have not had like a a very specific resolution that we voted on. 464 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,880 And we we all sort of write what we're think we're voting on. And 465 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,200 » I've wor I've worked with Mr. Howard for years. He'd be happy to do a a formal 466 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:38,640 resolution with your input with the conditions all there. And then you have 467 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,839 it clean and you hand it over to the uh secretary. But you don't have to do it 468 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:46,040 that way. I don't want to over complicate it for you. 469 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,040 » Right. 470 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,119 » So the vote is is uh acceptable for tonight. 471 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,160 » Yeah. I mean >> and um should we address our conditions 472 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,839 if if >> you did the public hearing vote and 473 00:36:55,839 --> 00:37:01,200 closed the public hearing? Yes. You got that vote in? 474 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,400 » Got that. So now one of you just has to if you want to do it tonight, one of you 475 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,119 has to just read into the record >> well what you're doing with the 476 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,400 conditions. >> Um 477 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:15,359 » for the last one we had to do a seeker for the use variance. So do we do that 478 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:19,280 before we we went on or like >> we did do that before this last time. 479 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:23,839 » So you already did your seeker last >> No, we did it on No, we had another use 480 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,280 we haven't had a use variance. So if you haven't done the seeker yet on this, 481 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,640 that's one thing you do first >> before you take any final action. 482 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,119 » So do you have that form there too? >> Mhm. 483 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,560 » Again, I don't want to over complicate it. Sometimes 484 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,839 » they do the formal resolution where they put the seeker approval language in the 485 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:51,760 resolution. >> Uh so you have it that way too. 486 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:57,040 » They put it right in the resolution approving it. So, 487 00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:01,040 » all right. Very good. Uh, number one, will the proposed action create a 488 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:07,200 material conflict with an adopted land use plan or zoning regulations? 489 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:13,040 I believe no. >> Sounds like yes, that's exactly what 490 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:18,000 » Will the proposed action result in a change in the use or intensity of use of 491 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,599 the land? No. >> Well, yes. 492 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,320 » Yes. >> That's exactly what we're doing, right? 493 00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:25,800 That's We're changing views. 494 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,240 Don't worry 495 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:38,880 » kind of. >> Oh, no. Small impact. 496 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:43,839 » Do you guys want to tonight? >> So, it's not yes or no. It's no or small 497 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:48,160 impact may small impact. So, I think >> will the proposed action impair the 498 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,000 character or quality of the existing community? 499 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,000 » No. >> No. 500 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,960 Will the proposed action result in an adverse change in the existing level of 501 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:04,839 traffic or affect existing infrastructure for mass transit, biking 502 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:04,839 or walkway? 503 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,839 Will the proposed action have an impact on the environmental characteristics 504 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:19,760 that cause the establishment of a critical environment environmental area? 505 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:23,520 No. Will the proposed action cause an 506 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:27,839 increase in the use of energy and it fails to incorporate reasonably 507 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:31,680 available energy conservation or renewable energy opportunities? 508 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,800 » No. >> No. 509 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:44,640 » Will the proposed action impact existing a public private water supply b public 510 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:48,640 private wastewater treatment utilities? No. 511 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:54,240 Will the proposed action impair the character of qu or quality of important 512 00:39:52,160 --> 00:40:00,960 historical, archaeological, architectural or aesthetic resources? 513 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:06,000 Will the proposed action result in an adverse change to natural resources? 514 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:11,440 Example, wetlands, water bodies, groundwater, air quality, floor, or 515 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,880 whatnot? Will the proposed action result in an 516 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,560 increase in the potential for erosion, flooding, or drainage problems? No. 517 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:23,119 » No. >> Will the proposed action create a hazard 518 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,720 to environmental resources or human health? 519 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,720 » No. >> No. 520 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,599 Uh something could action. 521 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:50,160 Could action result in any adverse effects associated with the following 522 00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:54,720 aesthetic, agricultural, archaeological, historic or other natural or cultural 523 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:59,119 resources or or community or neighborhood character? 524 00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:03,599 That's a no. vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish 525 00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:06,319 or wildlife species, significant habitats or threatened or endangered 526 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,480 species? >> No. 527 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:16,000 » A community a community's existing plan or goals as officially adopted or a 528 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:20,920 change in use or intensity of or of use of land or other natural resources. 529 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:30,000 » That one again. >> Yeah. a a community's existing plans or 530 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:37,480 goals as officially adopted or a change in use or intensity of use of land or 531 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:37,480 other natural resources 532 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:42,880 existing plans. >> That would be like 533 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,720 » comprehensive plan. >> That would be the comprehensive plan. 534 00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:51,119 » Yeah, I think that's what we covered last time. Yeah. growth growth 535 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:56,160 subsequent development or related activities likely to be in to be induced 536 00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,560 by the proposed action. Um 537 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:09,839 long-term short-term cumulative or other effects not identified in C1C5 which is 538 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:16,880 unapplicable. Other impacts including changes in use 539 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:21,200 of of either quantity or type of energy. Ask no. Will the project have an impact 540 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:27,119 on the environmental characteristics that cause the establishment of a 541 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:31,520 critical environmental area? Uh no. 542 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:36,960 Is there or is there likely to be controversy related to potential adverse 543 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:40,599 environmental impacts? I'm thinking no. 544 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:55,119 All right. I believe that's it. >> So we have to vote on 545 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:58,800 what was the vote we need to take for we >> you're probably based on your review are 546 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,480 going to declare this is a negative declaration type new 547 00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:08,160 » action right >> so I make a motion that we declare 548 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,480 uh ourselves do we have to declare ourselves the lead agency 549 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,880 » all in one motion? Yeah. >> Yeah. that we declare ourselves the lead 550 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:18,400 agency and that we declare this a negative declaration and type two 551 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,880 action. Negative declaration of what? Negative declaration of your ne 552 00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:27,359 environmental impact that you're by doing a negative declaration you're 553 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:32,480 saying this proposed action by your board approving this will not have an 554 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:38,800 impact on the environment and then type two are the ones as you guys know that 555 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:41,839 don't require doing the full EAF you know environmental 556 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:46,760 assessment form. >> We really have to do this the secret 557 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,760 one. 558 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,839 » Okay. So, uh what's the motion that I made clear? 559 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:59,200 » And did you get a second? >> I didn't get a second that I know. 560 00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:02,240 » And on these, we usually have a poll vote. 561 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,240 » I don't know if you guys do. >> Not usually. 562 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:11,359 » All right. Some places they do a poll vote on this and on the final action 563 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:16,880 taken. It's up to you guys. >> I don't want to rock the vote too much. 564 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,200 » Well, that's a town board. >> All right. So, we can proceed with the 565 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,960 vote. >> How do you want to do it? Do you want to 566 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:25,119 do poll vote or like by individual or just say 567 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,319 » the poll vote was take you two seconds? Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No. 568 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,400 » You just document it all on one. >> Pardon? 569 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:33,599 » You would document it all on one document. 570 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:39,200 » Yeah. Uh the hopefully the clerk just heard the uh motion and uh Tim 571 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:47,280 » Tim Tim marked up the uh uh environmental uh assessment form there 572 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:52,720 and uh if you got the language you did not get the language that uh 573 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:58,720 » okay so that Paul just said a motion to declare ourselves the lead agency 574 00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:03,680 » and that it's a negative declaration of environmental impact. 575 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:10,839 Okay. As the agency >> to issue a negative declaration and 576 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:10,839 determine this to be a type two action 577 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:22,280 and declare >> this a type two and Roman number two 578 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,280 action. 579 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:37,200 and they would take a vote on it and each one would vote in turn and 580 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,480 » just no. All you got to do is now call their names out. 581 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:42,960 » Okay. Um, member Ger. >> Um, 582 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,240 in favor? Yes. >> Yes. 583 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,280 » Yes or no? >> I Yes. 584 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,640 » I Yes. Okay. >> Member Jameson. 585 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,920 » Yes. >> Chairperson Huffy. 586 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,200 » Yes. >> Member Heckle. 587 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:01,440 » Yes. And now one of you can make a motion on 588 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,720 the approval request. >> I'll make a motion. 589 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,839 » Okay. I guess we should make a motion, but that's what we kind of need to 590 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,640 » discuss exactly what that motion is going to be because we need to include 591 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:16,839 the the conditions and all that. >> Come to a consensus on that. 592 00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:24,160 » So I guess as it is, >> maybe the the first uh I guess Yeah. So, 593 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:30,000 we should start by just making a motion to uh allow the the use of the property 594 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:34,800 as a property management slashmaintenance office with equipment 595 00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:39,599 storage, vehicle boat storage, real estate, construction, electrical, 596 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:46,319 plumbing office with storage, warehouse space with no showroom, 597 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:52,000 internet sales, overflow storage, uh and equipment or tools storage. 598 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:56,880 So, That's the the base motion and then I 599 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,480 guess if we >> second that and then we can start adding 600 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,319 conditions or whatever. >> So 601 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,640 » I'll make a motion. >> I second. 602 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,880 » All in favor? >> I 603 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,000 » Okay, >> you're going to want to add your 604 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:15,520 conditions as part of it. Okay. Can't really bifurcate it. So this the 605 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:20,800 condition you mentioned was >> preventing uh like non-inherent 606 00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:25,359 storage or processing of hazardous materials not inherent to the proposed 607 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,319 » uses. What was 608 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:35,599 » um and then also there was a not a non-dual use condition. One is that uh 609 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:40,079 there will be uh no storage or use of hazardous materials on site that there 610 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:44,079 will be no dual use of the subject property. At least I heard those two 611 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:46,960 different things brought up. >> Uh 612 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:53,280 » the property needs to be maintained. >> Property will be maintained in accord in 613 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:58,000 accordance with the New York State uh uniform fire prevention and building 614 00:47:55,119 --> 00:48:00,319 act which includes the maintenance code. Don't worry, Stephanie's writing all 615 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,839 this down. >> I'm kidding. I'm kidding. 616 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:19,119 And then you if you have more, we'll add it now. But you always close with and 617 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:23,760 this uh approval is conditioned upon the applicant obtaining any and all 618 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:28,359 necessary municipal approvals. Any and all other necessary municipal approvals. 619 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:36,760 » I don't have any other conditions to add to that. 620 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,760 So we have a total of three 621 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,680 the necessary approvals. >> That's just the closing on all of them. 622 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,079 You should be using that verbiage on everything. Okay. 623 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:53,000 » Our condition for this. >> So no storage of hazardous materials. 624 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:53,000 Uh no dual use with another business. 625 00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:02,240 Uh the property is maintained in accordance with the code. Correct. 626 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:13,880 and that uh in the end all other necessary approvals uh from other 627 00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:13,880 municipal bodies are obtained. 628 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:24,960 » What was the last one, Paul? >> Uh just what Phil said that any and all 629 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,720 other necessary approvals from other municipal bodies are attained obtained. 630 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,319 So if they were to need anything from the planning 631 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:35,920 » question. Sure. >> That last condition about the other 632 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:40,640 approvals. So this is condition contingent on that. 633 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:45,839 » What other approvals are needed? >> Well, for example, let's say somebody 634 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,760 needs to get a license to operate there, >> right? 635 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:51,359 » They would need to do that. They can't just go in and 636 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:56,480 » so but then it's still it's still contingent. Like so it's not actually 637 00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:01,200 approved. This is approved, but it doesn't mean you can just do anything. 638 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:06,800 If you need a municipal approval from another entity, whether it be federal, 639 00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:08,960 state, county, or town, you got to get it. 640 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,559 » No, I understand. I understand that if I want to be a plumber, I have to get my 641 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,079 license. >> We don't know. We That's why we use the 642 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,319 verbiage we use because we don't know what you're going to do with the 643 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,079 property in the future. >> But the way that you're stating it, it's 644 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,720 a it's a >> No, it's a condition of use, not a 645 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:26,800 condition of approval. >> Okay. So in the same way that no storage 646 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,640 of hazardous materials is like >> just want to make sure that it's you 647 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,760 can't store it before you get the variance. It's that you can't store it 648 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,599 as you're using >> the property. 649 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:39,839 » Thank you >> Mr. Cypriyani and Miss Cypriani. You 650 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:44,240 understand that should you decide to put something in there that needs another 651 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:48,240 approval, maybe it's from the county, maybe it's from the state, you have to 652 00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:52,480 get that. This doesn't give you the permission to 653 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:56,720 » to just do anything. Yeah, exactly. >> Stuff that should be obvious, I think. 654 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,920 But just in case >> nothing is ever. 655 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,400 » All right. >> What he said 656 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:09,800 » and then once Stephanie's ready, we can do a vote and 657 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:17,839 » All right. So the way we usually vote is we actually usually like 658 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:23,800 » individually write out our responses to the four questions that we need to 659 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,800 » and then you hand it in. 660 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,960 » I have these here. Can you tell that I'm >> Oh, you do say yes at some point. Do 661 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:38,800 they say yes >> at the end? Yeah, we have to say 662 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:42,240 we get we get that mine. 663 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:48,160 » No, but Prior 664 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:52,319 to the last and all in subject to the applic and all other necessary municipal 665 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,440 approvals. >> Okay. 666 00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:00,119 » Any and all other necessary municipal approvals. 667 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,599 Do you need it? 668 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:14,640 Yeah, this is a very unique thing you guys do filling these forms out. Mr. 669 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:18,720 Howard and I were talking about that. Not every place does it that way. No, 670 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:23,200 » but it's it's it creates an instant record. 671 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:26,960 » So, apparently there was a problem a while back and they started doing this 672 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,839 in response to that problem and >> because sometimes somebody will say, 673 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:33,520 "Well, there's ambiguity here. We don't know why they did this or what." Well, 674 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,520 with the way you do it, there's no question. 675 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,119 You guys are all working diligently. 676 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,960 I'll ask Abigail. Abigail, normally do you guys have four people show up 677 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:11,839 because you have six. >> Five. Five. Oh, you have five that are 678 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,040 on. Okay. >> Don is missing. 679 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:18,480 » Gotcha. For some reason, I thought you guys had six like an alternate. 680 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,240 » There's usually an alternate that's open position currently. 681 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:25,359 » So, if someone can't be there, you would have them fill in. 682 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,400 » I was the alternate and then we had someone in design last year 683 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,440 » and then you moved into >> now not the alternate. 684 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,520 » Don't have an alternate. >> All right. 685 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:41,920 So, right now they're only at five and they need one more person. 686 00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:45,359 » I should fill out an application. >> There you go. 687 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:49,359 » I think if you talk to those two over there, 688 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:54,720 » I'm going to fill out the application. >> That's who appoints the person or two 689 00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:58,160 fifths of the uh body appoints the person. 690 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,480 » Did the >> I mean, I think that's how Donna got it. 691 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:05,440 She came to us once, right? Maybe that was before you were here. 692 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:09,240 Yeah, she was here and she was so thrilled with me that she also 693 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:19,599 » we had an applicant. I thought that >> Yeah, we do have an applicant. Yeah, we 694 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:22,599 have to open 695 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,920 That's 696 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,599 Don't worry. 697 00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:45,280 Everybody ready? >> Mhm. 698 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:51,440 » Cool. You want to start us off? >> Okay. Um the applicant cannot realize a 699 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:55,520 reasonable return is shown by the uh competent financial evidence. The lack 700 00:57:53,280 --> 00:58:00,079 of return must be substantial. Yes. Submitted information regarding loss of 701 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:04,880 revenue by losing two prior sales of the building. The alleged hardship uh 702 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:09,040 related to the properties unique. The hardship may not apply to substantial 703 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,880 portions of the zoning district or neighborhood. Yes, property is a 704 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:19,559 plumbing business. Now applicant would like to make property a general use and 705 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:19,559 not specific to the current business. 706 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:27,359 Uh the quest use variance if granted will not alter the essential character 707 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:31,440 of the neighborhood. I said no. There is an existing business on the site. New 708 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:36,799 business will take over the existing property. The alleged hardship has been 709 00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:42,160 self-created. I said no. Property was in foreclosure and uh property was 710 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:46,839 purchased by applicant. and I said um yes um for giving the variance 711 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:54,079 » number one the applicant cannot realize a reasonable return. My vote is a yes. 712 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:58,000 Current use variance restrictions. The alleged hardship relating to the 713 00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:02,880 property is unique. They have a grandfathered commercial building 714 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:09,720 without a continued grandfathered use. Previous use variance was far was for a 715 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,720 plumbing business only. 716 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,720 Uh the requested use variance if granted 717 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:19,040 will not alter the essential character of the neighborhood. I said yes. 718 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:23,920 Building appears to be structurally sound. Requested use variant should not 719 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:27,760 neg negatively affect or alter neighborhood. 720 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:33,280 The alleged hardship had has been self-created. I said no. 721 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:38,640 Building was acquired through forclosure uh through foreclosure with associated 722 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:42,960 use variance restrictions. Uh my vote is a yes for approval of the 723 00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:47,839 variance. >> Okay. Uh the applicant could not realize 724 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:53,040 a reasonable return uh as shown by competent financial evidence. Uh I said 725 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:57,599 yes. The applicant provided quotes uh to demolish the building and build a house 726 00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:02,880 which would be prohibitively expensive. Uh the sale to a plumber specifically 727 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:06,400 was pursued but no buy was able to be found. 728 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,920 Uh two, the alleged hardship relating to the property is unique. I said yes, 729 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:15,520 there is an existing non-residential building already present on the site. 730 01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:20,720 Number three, the requested use variance if granted will not alter the essential 731 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:26,240 character of the neighborhood. Uh Mark 732 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:31,040 will not alter. Yes, it will not alter. The requested use is similar to the 733 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:35,359 currently approved use for the alleged hardship has been self-created. Uh, no. 734 01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:39,440 Since the property was obtained when the fire owner defaulted on a loan to the 735 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:47,440 current owner and so I vote yes in different areas. 736 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:52,319 » Um, for question one, um, I voted yes for I'm not going to redo every 737 01:00:49,359 --> 01:00:57,599 question. That's all right. Um, but see attached quotes from applicant. Um, for 738 01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:03,520 question two, I've voted yes. um previous use um of this property was uh 739 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:08,480 previous business use was approved at this property and the property is set up 740 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:15,920 as business. Um question three also voted yes proposed use should improve 741 01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:22,480 the um property and question four no applicant obtained property through 742 01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:26,640 foreclosure. Um and do we need to state verbally the the use and conditions 743 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:30,240 where that's all recorded? Well, I mean that was in the motion. 744 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:34,280 » Was in the motion. Okay. So, I I also am voting to approve the variance. 745 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:50,720 » This variance is approved and uh we'll have a resolution outline 746 01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:53,119 next week and uh you are uh totally on board with the conditions that we uh 747 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,599 rendered. >> Yes. 748 01:01:53,680 --> 01:02:01,839 » All right. get signed back. 749 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:03,280 » Yeah. And uh bless it. >> Okay. 750 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:08,200 » Very good. >> Thank you. Good luck with it. 751 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,200 » Thank you. 752 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,920 » Do they have anything else? 753 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:24,640 » Or do you want to go home? >> I'll tell you the area a lot more fun. 754 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:30,760 » Yeah. There's some for sure. I did say you did Paul. I misread a word 755 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,760 where it said will not alter. 756 01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:38,079 » We have a motion to adjourn. >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn. 757 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:42,079 » All in favor? >> Oh, second. Who was the second? Oh, 758 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:47,119 there we go. >> Hi, how are you? 759 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:52,559 » You all set? You got the >> at some point should 760 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:58,280 I make a schedule of what's supposed to >> Yeah. Abigail second. 761 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,280 » What are we doing?