1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,319 good morning welcome to the fire committee for the Village of Point ever 2 00:00:03,959 --> 00:00:11,759 for Tuesday September 12th I'd like to call this meeting to order at this time 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:17,359 are there any Declarations of pecuniary interests none 4 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:20,359 known okay uh we have no delegations the prior meeting minutes have been 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:26,439 circulated mayor hand do you have any questions or comments no I don't okay I 6 00:00:24,519 --> 00:00:32,719 will recommend that we receive and approve so 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:36,079 moved there is one ongoing task carried over from previous meetings is the 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:41,360 community Master fire plan which is to be added to the 2024 9 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:46,079 budget um can we please have an update on the status of the library and fire 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,760 hall roof project yep uh last I heard they're planning on starting 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:56,440 approximately not next Monday but the Monday after um the week I think the day 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:01,000 two actually maybe it is next the 19th it might be next week or 18th that would 13 00:00:58,199 --> 00:01:03,760 be the 18th yeah is the week of the 20th is when they're 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:11,560 expecting to Monday's the 18th and do we know how 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:17,880 long dependent on weather two weeks thank you very much so that should 16 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:17,880 see it done by the end of 17 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:27,759 September yeah the weather cooperates okay uh the joint health and 18 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:32,320 safety committee report for the fire hall is complete and I recommend that we 19 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,320 receiving 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:41,520 file Chief McKenzie can you please share the your M fire please 21 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:47,840 okay um with community relations so multiple 22 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:52,759 car seat installations are still being brought forward to us the guys are 23 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:58,799 helping people try to put them in um as we stated last time we're not 24 00:01:56,399 --> 00:02:03,079 renewing our certifications at this time because you have to go to town 25 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:07,399 there people are still coming to us because nobody's answering the phone and 26 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:14,480 other agencies to help them um Fire Halls are complete or fire 27 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:19,760 hall tours completed with a number of groups uh inspections multiple 28 00:02:17,239 --> 00:02:24,879 inspections still with sunbridge and the new construction on venan trying to stay 29 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:32,879 on top of it also and multiple mobile food truck inspections 30 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:39,280 also Community Emergency Management plaudo yeah During the period of this 31 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:46,720 report um the county had their CMC meeting our field officer from 32 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:51,920 onario onario was there as well over some of the storm debrief from the area 33 00:02:49,519 --> 00:03:01,760 um and then we had an internal storm debrief here some that and then 34 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,760 basically does their month so those 35 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:10,080 uh vehicles and Equipment all vehicles are in good working order our annual 36 00:03:07,959 --> 00:03:15,519 pump tests been done on the engine and the ladder we have a couple valves on 37 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,840 the uh engine that has to be replaced that 38 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:23,120 leaking ground ladders have all been completed a little bit of work had to be 39 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:29,280 done to them nothing major 40 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:33,439 um the boat trailer instead of replacing it 41 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:39,799 Rick and I took it upon ourselves to uh fix it so we repaired it got it in 42 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:49,599 working order so that uh saved us 5,000 bucks our rescue truck um is still 43 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:55,640 having some issues has a small week of antifreeze mechanic was down yesterday 44 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:59,879 still cannot find it so they're going to see what they're going to talk to the 45 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:03,599 boss and see what they can do and all Al our awning is not working and the motor 46 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:07,760 he said it's no good on it's already fried 47 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,640 so we'll see what they do with that hopefully we'll know in the next week or 48 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:15,759 two sorry do you mean the motor on the awning yeah okay thank 49 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:21,160 you um health and safety nothing no concerns 50 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,960 with anybody in the department which is brought forward every monthly meeting 51 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:30,600 from our department capital budget no Capital 52 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:36,400 expenditures took place uh we're trying to get some still trying to get host and 53 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:41,280 we got year we have to order uh so we'll see how that goes for time frame I know 54 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:46,000 we have we're still waiting from from last year so we're still having problems 55 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:46,000 getting 56 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:52,720 things um upcoming events we got bridgy school barbecue we're looking forward we 57 00:04:51,039 --> 00:04:55,240 have a new principal to work with so that should be exciting for the guys 58 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:01,360 this year we Emergency Management 59 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:06,000 exercise fire prevention week is October 88th to 60 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:10,280 14th saved by the beep smoke alarm day is September 28th so we trying to 61 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:15,600 promote get everybody to test their smoke alarms that 62 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:19,919 day probably doing handouts I think the deputy is going to 63 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:24,680 be arranging to have door too 64 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,680 P 65 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:35,160 correct um Chief or the deput and I uh went to the Chiefs meeting that was HED 66 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:42,479 hosted in Watford uh lots of new faces there um we 67 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:46,280 attended the Bike Rodeo hosted by the point Edward Optimus Hall which was 68 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:51,919 really nice still trying to keep that 69 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:55,919 going worked with Tim Hortons with Camp day again which is a great 70 00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:02,840 supporters um fire Marshalls town hall meeting meetings Zoom meetings that 71 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:07,240 we've attended a couple of those that's gone on with everything that's 72 00:06:04,590 --> 00:06:14,039 [Music] happening still meeting with E1 fir 73 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:22,440 truck um so I I'm G to bring it up now with 74 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:26,039 this um it's been extremely challenging with this 75 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:32,360 dealer um he's come down a couple times now 76 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:37,120 we've talked as you're aware um they they increased the price of the 77 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:42,880 truck because we had to get a different engine which they said they wouldn't do 78 00:06:40,039 --> 00:06:47,880 but they did it and so he he gave us the spec of when we 79 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:52,000 first designed the truck and it was incorrect so I told him you got I gotta 80 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:58,840 go back so Paul you gotta go back and change it and get exactly what I what I 81 00:06:55,639 --> 00:07:02,400 want that took probably two months he came down again we talked about it again 82 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:07,520 because they're still not getting what we want and what we're trying to do with 83 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:11,840 this truck is keep it very simple very basic but there's certain things that we 84 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:16,960 are trying to achieve and the main achievement that most Fire Chiefs 85 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:21,319 departments all across Ontario they're trying to lower their hose bed their 86 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,400 truck because they want to keep people as low as possible to load 87 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:34,960 H so he brought back some information and sent some pictures and it's not low 88 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:40,680 enough for us again so we've seen other trucks where it's lower so I said it's 89 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:46,319 got to be lower I'll have to take it back and da D all right so he took it 90 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:50,280 back and he said he get it back to me right away and the last letter I 91 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,960 received I don't know if you forward it to council 92 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,360 Jim uh I highly recommend for you to see it 93 00:07:55,990 --> 00:08:01,960 [Music] um with the canoe with the discount of 94 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,440 the truck it was a nice discount for the truck um they're not going to set 95 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:11,000 they're not going to give us anything they're not going to give me another 96 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:16,720 spec we have to sign off on this truck if we want it to get it in the order to 97 00:08:14,599 --> 00:08:21,360 be able to save on whether it's going to go up with exchange whether it's going 98 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:27,680 to go up in cost whatever whatever I'm not feeling really 99 00:08:25,479 --> 00:08:31,959 comfortable because I have to answer to our 100 00:08:30,159 --> 00:08:36,719 community and Council I don't have a piece of paper 101 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:43,880 that is stating that I'm getting what I'm asking for and he's telling me that 102 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:47,959 they will do this and everything else um I find that hard to 103 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,320 believe that I'm not going to get hit with more 104 00:08:50,839 --> 00:09:00,160 money so I'd like to see some feedback from 105 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,640 Council what you think personally I don't feel 106 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:10,279 comfortable every I shouldn't say every there's a lot of other departments are 107 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:17,000 going through the same issues it's not the service we used to receive it's 108 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:22,160 different and I'm just I'm very cautious of telling him yes and it's it's not a 109 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:28,120 major major thing but it is to me we spent a 110 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:33,399 lot of time with our committee of our firefighters to build this truck so it's 111 00:09:31,079 --> 00:09:38,600 as good as we possibly can make it and as safe and the best quality that we 112 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:43,959 can and he comes down we talk he's a very 113 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:48,240 nice fellow to talk to and stuff and I he's dealing with other people higher up 114 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,040 and everything else and they've just said you know what you've got to get 115 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:56,920 your name on this truck because if you don't you're you're G to miss it we're 116 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:03,480 looking at two years still to build the truck so um 117 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:09,440 I don't feel good with it I know the deputy doesn't feel good with it um so 118 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:15,920 we we don't know which way to go here 119 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:19,600 um to me if it's not a written contract somehow they want to change your wording 120 00:10:17,959 --> 00:10:24,440 that we're going to receive everything and it's not going to be an increase 121 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:29,839 then I can work with them a bit but uh it's been very very challenging I have 122 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:34,839 never ever seen anything like this in my time and I've I've replaced every truck 123 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:38,880 in our department never have I ever seen this nobody wants to come down nobody 124 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:45,320 wants to talk to you nobody they have minimal information for you um it's it's 125 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:49,920 over a million bucks folks it's a big purchase I don't think 126 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,360 if you're not comfortable with it and your crew is not comfortable with it 127 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:59,320 then I don't think it's something that you should move on with if you you could 128 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:05,000 get stuck with something that's not what you wanted and that's would be a lot 129 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:10,160 worse than two years yeah and I mean it's it's one thing for that part of it 130 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:14,680 I mean trucks a truck and whether it's two inches higher than what I want 131 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:18,959 that's one thing but it's still signing for a million dollars and and then find 132 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:25,079 out it's another two $500,000 more that they 133 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:30,120 say well this is what you wanted and that's what I'm careful of so unless I 134 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:34,959 can get something from him uh the last proposal that we received I don't even 135 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:42,240 have it here I thought it was shared so it was a million two I think J something 136 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:45,440 245 or something like that um you know so 137 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:50,440 it's what would happen if you didn't go with this truck that's our problem we 138 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:56,839 can't it's not as if we can just reach out and talk to anybody they are one of 139 00:11:53,480 --> 00:12:02,240 the better quality trucks to purchase um 140 00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:06,160 as much as I'd like to tell them you know what we're just going elsewhere I 141 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:12,399 don't have options I don't have a lot of options there's other people that sell 142 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:17,399 fire trucks but not for what I we've had extremely good luck with this style of 143 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:22,320 truck and this name of truck and I don't I don't think we should be trying to 144 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Veer off of that and throw the dice got to remember our truck is over 20 years 145 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:35,000 old and still operating they really really good so I that goes a long ways 146 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:42,040 with me because we anything we do buy uh it's it's got to last now saying that 147 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:47,079 one thing that is in our favor I believe anyways I think our truck that we have 148 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:52,240 now will be a hot commodity for someone else to 149 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:58,199 buy and um last time we traded our truck in our rescue when we when we did that I 150 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:02,920 do not recommend trading this one in I try I would sell it ourselves yeah the 151 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:10,000 one before we went to manat tulan was that no no no where was it up north oh 152 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:15,279 that's that's two trucks two trucks ago so that is in our favor that we are we 153 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:20,800 will get a good chunk of change for that one but um I shared that stuff with Jim 154 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:25,199 to send it out so when you have a look at it you'll you'll kind of see where 155 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:29,600 I'm I would that thank you 156 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:34,000 um what one thing I think is is just stay 157 00:13:32,199 --> 00:13:37,680 firm and say like you you have the option to go back and say I've reviewed 158 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:42,839 it with my councel and they need this this confirmation and writing yeah like 159 00:13:40,199 --> 00:13:48,760 so you're putting it off as my council's saying this is what I 160 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,839 need yeah it's not like you're demanding it you're saying in order to to move 161 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:58,399 forward I need this and writing and then we can sign off yeah when we get there I 162 00:13:56,199 --> 00:14:03,560 have no problem yeah I mean these people me nothing to me I don't care I have no 163 00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:09,800 problem that way it's just it's just not a 164 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:15,560 comfortable feeling signed for a million bucks say oh by the way yeah by the way 165 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:22,759 we need another because I've already done that 166 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:28,880 yeah yeah yeah so it's just we need to we need to 167 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:31,720 be firm and sign the document and and we're ready to do 168 00:14:34,199 --> 00:14:42,720 business is this sna just bought another this did they deal with them yeah they 169 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:47,920 have dealt with them and St Clair fire chief Richard boy is also dealing with 170 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,920 okay with them right now yeah Rich and I Richard and I have talked many times and 171 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:57,639 they're still having they're having the same different problems 172 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:57,639 to anyways 173 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,720 um uh where are we okay members attending 174 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:09,800 the meeting regarding the potential proposed changes to the narial fire 175 00:15:05,959 --> 00:15:14,240 code um UFM webinar regarding the upcoming smoke 176 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:18,720 alarm day campaign uh members attended the meeting 177 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,800 to discuss large storm event that happened through their 178 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Community uh several members completed their pump operation exam in their 179 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:34,319 practical component written test and practical tests which hats off to these 180 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:39,880 people that did this there was a tremendous amount of time and effort 181 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:44,560 they put in and that'll be your the first uh monies that we'll be paying out 182 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,800 to the people for that training which I've 183 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:53,600 submitted [Music] 184 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:58,920 um with that just so everybody understands so Jim was talking to me he 185 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:04,560 wanted something in writing for state how we how we go about this and what 186 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:07,600 I've tried to do is talk to again other people that have sent their people 187 00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:13,600 through for any type of training and how they paid them the hour 188 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:20,160 um time frame there's a Time usually that the college allows for any of these 189 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:25,399 courses I went in between and tried to balance it out for what I've done I 190 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:29,519 think it's fair for our people it's fair right across the line but you need to 191 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:35,040 understand it can be a lot more money and it probably will be because as 192 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:38,800 things going to progress I think you're going to see 193 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:44,240 more and more and people are going to expect it and rightfully so it is it is 194 00:16:41,839 --> 00:16:50,360 a big time thing that they we put in in a lot of stress I know our people were 195 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:50,360 stressed out for this 196 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:59,000 course um ended the learning webinar regarding 197 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:06,079 uh gas fires and residential structures CL 198 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:13,039 utilize vacation time Rick utiliz some vacation time I'm leaving 199 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:17,880 tomorrow uh for vacation I thought better finish that 200 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,880 sentence where you got 201 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:27,720 excited um don't start planning the party our open house uh we're I'm 202 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:31,480 looking for some direction on it also um with Co 203 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:35,280 crisis that we had and know we talked about it and was I only who I talked to 204 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,360 might have been Jim might have been councel I have no idea but we are 205 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:45,000 talking about going every other year every year um I'd like to know what you 206 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:49,400 would like because it's coming up I'd like to see it every year every 207 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:55,240 year I think that it's a great event for our community really keeps um our 208 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:58,440 community pass fire okay I I agree because the people that attend are all 209 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:05,840 the people with the young families and and they really look forward to coming 210 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:11,919 out okay so we'll we'll get rolling on it um open burn I just wanted to know is 211 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:16,360 there any update with that yet Jim or nothing um it's as far as I'm aware it's 212 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:20,320 sitting on the judge's dock ready for approval it's been prepared to you know 213 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,080 where the person I deal with has recommended it for approval so we're 214 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:29,000 just waiting for that okay and we've lost three more people 215 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,559 this month so another person just got hired on the city and I think we have 216 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,799 another one that's on the list for the city so but we've lost three this 217 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:46,600 month that's it thank 218 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:51,159 you um the fire monthly financial statements do we have any questions or 219 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:56,360 comments of those I I didn't have any questions on any of 220 00:18:53,039 --> 00:19:03,280 it then we will receive I didn't see anything scary 221 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:09,600 at this point the end for the end of July then we can receive and file um we 222 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:13,799 moved the next meeting date for of the fire committee will be held on October 223 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:20,240 10th at 8:30 a.m. motion to 224 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:25,600 adour 8:30 or 8 said 8:30 in here it says 8:30 but it's eight okay for 225 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:29,400 everybody we're here S no problem us okay and 8 a. yeah okay we can change 226 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:34,919 them yeah that just kind of automatically shows up 227 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:37,919 yeah thank you