[0:00] good morning welcome to the fire
committee for the Village of Point ever
[0:03] for Tuesday September 12th I'd like to
call this meeting to order at this time
[0:09] are there any Declarations of pecuniary
interests none
[0:13] known okay uh we have no delegations the
prior meeting minutes have been
[0:18] circulated mayor hand do you have any
questions or comments no I don't okay I
[0:24] will recommend that we receive and
approve so
[0:28] moved there is one ongoing task carried
over from previous meetings is the
[0:34] community Master fire plan which is to
be added to the 2024
[0:38] budget um can we please have an update
on the status of the library and fire
[0:43] hall roof project yep uh last I heard
they're planning on starting
[0:47] approximately not next Monday but the
Monday after um the week I think the day
[0:53] two actually maybe it is next the 19th
it might be next week or 18th that would
[0:58] be the 18th yeah
is the week of the 20th is when they're
[1:02] expecting
to Monday's the 18th and do we know how
[1:07] long dependent on weather two
weeks thank you very much so that should
[1:14] see it done by the end of
[1:19] September yeah the weather
cooperates okay uh the joint health and
[1:26] safety committee report for the fire
hall is complete and I recommend that we
[1:29] receiving
[1:33] file Chief McKenzie can you please share
the your M fire please
[1:39] okay
um with community relations so multiple
[1:45] car seat installations are still being
brought forward to us the guys are
[1:50] helping people try to put them
in um as we stated last time we're not
[1:56] renewing our certifications at this time
because you have to go to town
[2:01] there people are still coming to us
because nobody's answering the phone and
[2:04] other agencies to help
them um Fire Halls are complete or fire
[2:10] hall tours completed with a number of
groups uh inspections multiple
[2:17] inspections still with sunbridge and the
new construction on venan trying to stay
[2:22] on top of it also and
multiple mobile food truck inspections
[2:28] also Community Emergency Management
plaudo yeah During the period of this
[2:36] report um the county had their CMC
meeting our field officer from
[2:43] onario onario was there as well over
some of the storm debrief from the area
[2:49] um and then we had an internal storm
debrief here some that and then
[2:56] basically does their month so those
[3:04] uh vehicles and Equipment all vehicles
are in good working order our annual
[3:07] pump tests been done on the engine and
the ladder we have a couple valves on
[3:13] the uh engine that has to be replaced
that
[3:16] leaking ground ladders have all been
completed a little bit of work had to be
[3:20] done to them nothing
major
[3:25] um the boat trailer instead of replacing
it
[3:30] Rick and I took it upon ourselves to uh
fix it so we repaired it got it in
[3:35] working order so that uh saved us 5,000
bucks our rescue truck um is still
[3:44] having some issues has a small week of
antifreeze mechanic was down yesterday
[3:52] still cannot find it so they're going
to see what they're going to talk to the
[3:57] boss and see what they can do and all Al
our awning is not working and the motor
[4:01] he said it's no good on it's already
fried
[4:05] so we'll see what they do with that
hopefully we'll know in the next week or
[4:09] two sorry do you mean the motor on the
awning yeah okay thank
[4:13] you
um health and safety nothing no concerns
[4:19] with anybody in the department which is
brought forward every monthly meeting
[4:22] from our
department capital budget no Capital
[4:27] expenditures took place uh we're trying
to get some still trying to get host and
[4:33] we got year we have to order uh so we'll
see how that goes for time frame I know
[4:39] we have we're still waiting from from
last year so we're still having problems
[4:43] getting
[4:46] things um upcoming events we got bridgy
school barbecue we're looking forward we
[4:51] have a new principal to work with so
that should be exciting for the guys
[4:54] this
year we Emergency Management
[4:58] exercise fire prevention week is October
88th to
[5:02] 14th saved by the beep smoke alarm day
is September 28th so we trying to
[5:08] promote get everybody to test their
smoke alarms that
[5:12] day probably doing handouts I think the
deputy is going to
[5:16] be arranging to have door
too
[5:21] P
[5:25] correct um Chief or the deput and I uh
went to the Chiefs meeting that was HED
[5:33] hosted in
Watford uh lots of new faces there um we
[5:40] attended the Bike Rodeo hosted by the
point Edward Optimus Hall which was
[5:44] really
nice still trying to keep that
[5:49] going worked with Tim Hortons with Camp
day again which is a great
[5:56] supporters um fire Marshalls town hall
meeting meetings Zoom meetings that
[6:00] we've attended a couple of those that's
gone on with everything that's
[6:04] [Music]
happening still meeting with E1 fir
[6:11] truck
um so I I'm G to bring it up now with
[6:17] this um it's been extremely challenging
with this
[6:24] dealer
um he's come down a couple times now
[6:28] we've talked as you're aware um they
they increased the price of the
[6:34] truck because we had to get a different
engine which they said they wouldn't do
[6:40] but they did it
and so he he gave us the spec of when we
[6:46] first designed the truck and it was
incorrect so I told him you got I gotta
[6:50] go back so Paul you gotta go back and
change it and get exactly what I what I
[6:55] want that took probably two months he
came down again we talked about it again
[7:01] because they're still not getting what
we want and what we're trying to do with
[7:04] this truck is keep it very simple very
basic but there's certain things that we
[7:09] are trying to achieve and the main
achievement that most Fire Chiefs
[7:13] departments all across Ontario they're
trying to lower their hose bed their
[7:19] truck because they want to keep people
as low as possible to load
[7:26] H so he brought back some information
and sent some pictures and it's not low
[7:32] enough for us again so we've seen other
trucks where it's lower so I said it's
[7:38] got to be lower I'll have to take it
back and da D all right so he took it
[7:44] back and he said he get it back to me
right away and the last letter I
[7:49] received I don't know if you forward it
to council
[7:52] Jim uh I highly recommend for you to see
it
[7:55] [Music]
um with the canoe with the discount of
[8:00] the truck it was a nice discount for the
truck um they're not going to set
[8:04] they're not going to give us anything
they're not going to give me another
[8:07] spec we have to sign off on this truck
if we want it to get it in the order to
[8:14] be able to save on whether it's going to
go up with exchange whether it's going
[8:18] to go up in cost whatever
whatever I'm not feeling really
[8:25] comfortable
because I have to answer to our
[8:30] community and
Council I don't have a piece of paper
[8:34] that is stating that I'm getting what
I'm asking for and he's telling me that
[8:40] they will do this and everything else um
I find that hard to
[8:45] believe that I'm not going to get hit
with more
[8:50] money
so I'd like to see some feedback from
[8:56] Council what you think personally I
don't feel
[9:03] comfortable every I shouldn't say every
there's a lot of other departments are
[9:07] going through the same issues it's not
the service we used to receive it's
[9:13] different and I'm just I'm very cautious
of telling him yes and it's it's not a
[9:21] major
major thing but it is to me we spent a
[9:26] lot of time with our committee of our
firefighters to build this truck so it's
[9:31] as good as we possibly can make it and
as safe and the best quality that we
[9:37] can
and he comes down we talk he's a very
[9:41] nice fellow to talk to and stuff and I
he's dealing with other people higher up
[9:46] and everything else and they've just
said you know what you've got to get
[9:49] your name on this truck because if you
don't you're you're G to miss it we're
[9:54] looking at two years still to build the
truck so um
[10:00] I don't feel good with it I know the
deputy doesn't feel good with it um so
[10:07] we we don't know which way to go
here
[10:12] um to me if it's not a written contract
somehow they want to change your wording
[10:17] that we're going to receive everything
and it's not going to be an increase
[10:21] then I can work with them a bit but uh
it's been very very challenging I have
[10:26] never ever seen anything like this in my
time and I've I've replaced every truck
[10:32] in our department never have I ever seen
this nobody wants to come down nobody
[10:37] wants to talk to you nobody they have
minimal information for you um it's it's
[10:43] over a million bucks
folks it's a big purchase I don't think
[10:48] if you're not comfortable with it and
your crew is not comfortable with it
[10:51] then I don't think it's something that
you should move on with if you you could
[10:57] get stuck with something that's not what
you wanted and that's would be a lot
[11:01] worse than two years yeah and I mean
it's it's one thing for that part of it
[11:07] I mean trucks a truck and whether it's
two inches higher than what I want
[11:12] that's one thing but it's still signing
for a million dollars and and then find
[11:17] out
it's another two $500,000 more that they
[11:23] say well this is what you wanted and
that's what I'm careful of so unless I
[11:27] can get something from him uh the last
proposal that we received I don't even
[11:32] have it here I thought it was shared so
it was a million two I think J something
[11:38] 245 or something like that um you know
so
[11:43] it's what would happen if you didn't go
with this truck that's our problem we
[11:48] can't it's not as if we can just reach
out and talk to anybody they are one of
[11:53] the better quality trucks to
purchase um
[11:59] as much as I'd like to tell them you
know what we're just going elsewhere I
[12:04] don't have options I don't have a lot of
options there's other people that sell
[12:08] fire trucks but not for what I we've had
extremely good luck with this style of
[12:14] truck and this name of truck and I don't
I don't think we should be trying to
[12:19] Veer off of that and throw the dice got
to remember our truck is over 20 years
[12:24] old and still operating they really
really good so I that goes a long ways
[12:30] with me because we anything we do buy uh
it's it's got to last now saying that
[12:39] one thing that is in our favor I believe
anyways I think our truck that we have
[12:44] now will be a hot commodity for someone
else to
[12:48] buy and um last time we traded our truck
in our rescue when we when we did that I
[12:55] do not recommend trading this one in I
try I would sell it ourselves yeah the
[13:00] one before we went to manat tulan was
that no no no where was it up north oh
[13:06] that's that's two trucks two trucks ago
so that is in our favor that we are we
[13:12] will get a good chunk of change for that
one but um I shared that stuff with Jim
[13:18] to send it out so when you have a look
at it you'll you'll kind of see where
[13:22] I'm I would that thank
you
[13:27] um
what one thing I think is is just stay
[13:32] firm and say like you you have the
option to go back and say I've reviewed
[13:35] it with my councel and they need this
this confirmation and writing yeah like
[13:40] so you're putting it off
as my council's saying this is what I
[13:46] need yeah it's not like you're demanding
it you're saying in order to to move
[13:51] forward I need this and writing and then
we can sign off yeah when we get there I
[13:56] have no problem yeah I mean these people
me nothing to me I don't care I have no
[14:00] problem that way it's just it's just not
a
[14:04] comfortable feeling signed for a million
bucks say oh by the way yeah by the way
[14:13] we need
another because I've already done that
[14:18] yeah yeah
yeah so it's just we need to we need to
[14:25] be firm and sign the document and and
we're ready to do
[14:34] business is this sna just bought another
this did they deal with them yeah they
[14:40] have dealt with them and St Clair fire
chief Richard boy is also dealing with
[14:44] okay with them right now yeah Rich and I
Richard and I have talked many times and
[14:49] they're still having they're having the
same different problems
[14:53] to anyways
[14:57] um
uh where are we okay members attending
[15:01] the meeting regarding the potential
proposed changes to the narial fire
[15:05] code um UFM webinar regarding the
upcoming smoke
[15:11] alarm day
campaign uh members attended the meeting
[15:16] to discuss large storm event that
happened through their
[15:22] Community uh several members completed
their pump operation exam in their
[15:27] practical component written test and
practical tests which hats off to these
[15:32] people that did this there was a
tremendous amount of time and effort
[15:36] they put in and that'll be your the
first uh monies that we'll be paying out
[15:42] to the people for that training which
I've
[15:47] submitted
[Music]
[15:49] um with that just so everybody
understands so Jim was talking to me he
[15:56] wanted something in writing for state
how we how we go about this and what
[16:01] I've tried to do is talk to again other
people that have sent their people
[16:05] through for any type of
training and how they paid them the hour
[16:11] um time frame there's a Time usually
that the college allows for any of these
[16:17] courses I went in between and tried to
balance it out for what I've done I
[16:23] think it's fair for our people it's fair
right across the line but you need to
[16:27] understand it can be a lot more
money and it probably will be because as
[16:33] things going to
progress I think you're going to see
[16:37] more and more and people are going to
expect it and rightfully so it is it is
[16:41] a big time thing that they we put in in
a lot of stress I know our people were
[16:47] stressed out for this
[16:50] course
um ended the learning webinar regarding
[16:57] uh
gas fires and residential structures CL
[17:02] utilize vacation time Rick utiliz some
vacation time I'm leaving
[17:10] tomorrow uh for
vacation I thought better finish that
[17:15] sentence where you got
[17:18] excited um don't start planning the
party our open house uh we're I'm
[17:24] looking for some direction on it also um
with Co
[17:29] crisis that we had and know we talked
about it and was I only who I talked to
[17:34] might have been Jim might have been
councel I have no idea but we are
[17:37] talking about going every other year
every year um I'd like to know what you
[17:42] would like because it's coming
up I'd like to see it every year every
[17:47] year I think that it's a great event for
our community really keeps um our
[17:52] community pass fire okay I I agree
because the people that attend are all
[17:56] the people with the young families and
and they really look forward to coming
[18:00] out okay so we'll we'll get rolling on
it um open burn I just wanted to know is
[18:09] there any update with that yet Jim or
nothing um it's as far as I'm aware it's
[18:14] sitting on the judge's dock ready for
approval it's been prepared to you know
[18:18] where the person I deal with has
recommended it for approval so we're
[18:21] just waiting for that
okay and we've lost three more people
[18:27] this month so another person just got
hired on the city and I think we have
[18:31] another one that's on the list for the
city so but we've lost three this
[18:38] month that's
it thank
[18:43] you um the fire monthly financial
statements do we have any questions or
[18:48] comments of those I I didn't have any
questions on any of
[18:53] it then we will
receive I didn't see anything scary
[19:00] at this point the end for the end of
July then we can receive and file um we
[19:06] moved the next meeting date for of the
fire committee will be held on October
[19:11] 10th at 8:30
a.m. motion to
[19:16] adour 8:30 or 8 said 8:30 in here it
says 8:30 but it's eight okay for
[19:23] everybody we're here S no problem us
okay and 8 a. yeah okay we can change
[19:27] them yeah
that just kind of automatically shows up
[19:32] yeah thank
you