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- Chers citoyennes et chers

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citoyens, bienvenue à cette

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séance ordinaire du conseil

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municipal du 4 octobre 2022.

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Depuis que j'ai été élu, j'ai

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essayé d'être plus ouvert dans

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la gestion des réunions du

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conseil et après la réunion du

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mois dernier, je tiens à

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préciser que certains

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comportements perturbateur ne

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seront plus tolérés. Les

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intervenants seront autorisés à

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montrer au micro qu'une seule

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fois pour poser leurs questions

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et non plusieurs fois au cours

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de la même réunion. Je me

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réserverai le droit de demander

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aux intervenants au micro qui

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utilise à plusieurs reprises une

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langue irrespectueuse de

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s'asseoir et de me permettre de

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prendre la question de la

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personne suivante dans la file.

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Si elle refuse, je demanderai

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à... la Sécurité publique de les

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faire sortir de la salle du

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conseil. Si les questions et les

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interventions au micro... seules

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ces questions seront autorisés.

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Lors de notre dernière réunion,

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la vice-présidence, Raymond

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Paré, à crier à plusieurs

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reprises on vers la conseillère

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Erin Tedford afin de l'empêcher

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et de terminer un discours

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concernant son projet de

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(inaudible)

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. Son projet a été approuvé par

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le conseil et il a tout de même

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attendu à l'extérieur pour

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continuer de la réprimander dans

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le stationnement alors qu'elle

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montait dans sa voiture. Bien

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qu'on lui ait demandé à

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plusieurs reprises de partir, il

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a refusé de le faire, même après

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que la sécurité publique ait été

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appelé à intervenir.

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Permettez-moi d'être très

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claire: il y aura une tolérance

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0 pour ce type d'interruption à

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l'avenir. Nous avons vu trop

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d'exemples au cours des derniers

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mois d'intimidation et de

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harcèlement des élus qui tentent

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de faire leur travail. Peu

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importe qui vous êtes ou quelle

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influence vous avez, si vous

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n'êtes pas prêt à faire preuve

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d'un minimum de respect pour

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notre décorum et notre débat

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démocratique, je ferai sortir de

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la salle du conseil et

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j'exigerais que vous quittiez

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les locaux de l'hôtel de ville

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immédiatement.

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Bon! Avant de continuer la

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séance du conseil municipal,

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permettez-moi de faire une mise

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à jour concernant les travaux

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d'infrastructure municipales qui

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étaient prévues dans le village

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de Pointe-Claire en 2023 ainsi

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que l'entente entre la Ville de

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Pointe-Claire et le club de golf

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et, finalement, le prix reçu de

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l'Association Canadienne des

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Travaux publics pour les

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activités de la Journée des

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Travaux publics. Tout d'abord,

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je vous annonce le report des

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travaux d'infrastructures

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municipales prévus l'an prochain

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dans le village de

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Pointe-Claire, entre les avenues

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Victoria et du Golf, en 2024 et

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2025. À la suite des rencontres

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consultatives qui ont eu lieu à

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la mi-juin, en personne, en

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webinaire et en ligne sur la

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plateforme de consultation

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citoyenne, nos équipes

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souhaitent tenir une deuxième

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série de rencontres

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consultatives à l'hiver prochain

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afin de poursuivre la discussion

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sur différents aspects soulevés

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rencontres. Pour le moment,

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aucune décision n'a été prise

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sur l'aménagement futur du

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chemin du Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore,

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soit une rue à double-sens ou

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une rue à sens unique. La

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deuxième série de rencontres

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consultatives permettra

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additionnels à cette décision

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majeure pour notre secteur

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villageois. Nous sommes

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conscients que ces travaux

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auront un impact dans tout le

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secteur villageois, autant les

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résidents que les commerçants,

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ce pourquoi nous poursuivrons

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les démarches préparatoires au

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cours de la prochaine année en

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vue de circonscrire les

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conséquences. Je vous informe

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également que nous déposerons ce

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soir pour adoption l'entente

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entre la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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et le Club de golf Beaconsfield

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pour offrir, à nouveau cet

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hiver, un tracé de ski de fond

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et une piste de marche sur le

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terrain du golf. Cette année, ce

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ne sera pas l'accord...

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Before starting the City Council

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meeting, let us briefly review

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the following. The municipal

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infrastructure works or planned

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for Pointe-Claire village in

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2023, as well as the agreement

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between the city of

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Pointe-Claire and the

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Beaconsfield golf club, and

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finally, the award received from

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the Canadian association of

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public works for the activities

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of the public works today. First

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of all, I am announcing that

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municipal infrastructure work

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Pointe-Claire village between

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Victoria and golf avenues will

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be postponed in 2024 and 2025.

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meetings that took place in mid

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June, in person, via webinar and

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online, on the citizen

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consultation platform, our teams

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series of consultative meetings

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next winter to continue the

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discussion on different aspects

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during this first series of

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meetings for the moment, no

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decision has been made on the

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future development of border

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lack lakeshore road. As either a

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street. The second series of

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consultative meetings will allow

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us to include additional

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elements to this major decision

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for our village sector. We are

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impact the entire sector, for

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villagers and merchants, so we

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will continue the preparatory

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steps next year to limit the

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consequences. I would also like

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to inform you that this evening,

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we adopt the agreement between

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the city of Pointe-Claire and

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the Beaconsfield golf club to

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provide once again this winter

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across country ski trail and

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walking trail through the golf

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- Ce soir, au nom du conseil

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municipal, je voudrais remettre

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la plaque de l'Association

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canadienne des Travaux publics

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au directeur du service des

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Travaux publics, monsieur Éric

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Merci. Pour une deuxième année

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consécutive nous avons remporté

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ce prix de l'Association

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Canadienne des Travaux publics

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pour la créativité des activités

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déployées dans le cadre de la

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Journée des Travaux publics qui

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a eu lieu le 15 mai dernier. Ces

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prix honorent les efforts pour

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promouvoir cette journée, l'un

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des meilleurs moyens de

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sensibiliser les citoyens à

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l'importance des travaux publics

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et aux services qu'ils

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fournissent à notre communauté.

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Les 140 employés des travaux

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publics de Pointe-Claire ont

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participé à la célébration de la

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la ville. Plusieurs services ont

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travaillé ensemble pour assurer

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le succès de l'événement:

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Travaux publics, Communications,

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L'événement a été un franc

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succès, apprécié par plus de 650

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citoyens de tous âges.

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Félicitations à tous!

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Tonight, on behalf of the City

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Council, I am giving the plaque

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of Canadian Public Works

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Association to the director of

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public works department, Eric

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radon. For a second year in a

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row, he won an award from the

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Canadian so CA shun of public

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works for the creativity of the

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activities deployed as part of

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the public works which took

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place on May 15th. CP W raise

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awards honour the efforts to

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promote national public works

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week. One of the ways to

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increase public awareness about

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public works and the services

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public works provide, provides

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to our communities. I'm in 40

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Pointe-Claire Public Works

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employees were involved in the

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city celebrations of public

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works week. Several departments

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worked together to ensure the

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success of the event. Public

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works, communications, human

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resources, and leisure. The

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event was a resounding success,

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enjoyed by over 650 citizens of

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all ages. Congratulations to

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everyone. Now we invite Eric and

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Geneviève

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- Le discours a été -- écrit

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avant, je m'his excuse, partner

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in Geneviève... crime,

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In operating public works, is

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with him tonight to join me at

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the front to receive the plaque

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and to take photos.

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>> Not yet.

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Une photo? Je m'excuse. Oui, je

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m'excuse, O.K.!

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>> And Mister Mayor, before the

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adoption of the agenda, may I

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speak? As a city councillor for

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the city of Pointe-Claire, as

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well as the president of the

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Planning Advisory Committee, I

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stated the last Public council

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meeting, September 6th, 2022,

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that Councillor Aaron Tedford

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did not speak with on behalf of

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Council. They were her personal

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opinions, and I do not support

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the comments that she made. My

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position was duly expressed by

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my vote on the project. Thank

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you.

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>> Anybody else?

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>> I also agree that the

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comments made by Councillor

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Tedford did not reflect my

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feelings about the project, and

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my vote in favour of it was

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made, so I did not agree with

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what she said.

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>> Paul?

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>> At the last council meeting

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the intervention by Councillor

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Tedford, she did not speak on

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behalf of Council regarding via

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live your project. They were her

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personal opinions. I do not

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support the comments that were

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made. However, I did support the

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project. Thank you.

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>> Well, I did not vote in

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favour of the project my opinion

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deferred for hers as did my

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reasons and those were her own

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personal reasons.

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>> I actually take a slightly

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different position with regards

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to this issue. I commend

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Councillor Tedford for the work

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and effort she has put together

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in terms of reading the

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information that has been

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available to her in order to

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come to a conclusion. In her

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discussion regarding the

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project, she attempted to

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justify her vote and some

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substance behind the proposals

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that she made. She was given the

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information that she received

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through the city administration.

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She made her assessment on that

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basis. In that regard, I think

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that is commendable.

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- Les gens de Brigadoon, non,

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pardon les gens de Sotramont,

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c'est bel et bien reçu vos

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commentaires par courriel, je

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suis en train d'étudier ce que

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vous proposez, je suis en train

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de faire mes recherches pour

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comparer un peu les dossiers.

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>> Well, I feel compelled to say

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something. I will just say that

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I voted, I stand by my vote. I

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stand by my thinking, that

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support of that vote and I have

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no comment on what another

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Councillor may have said to

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substantiate their vote.

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>> One last one?

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>> Yes, go ahead.

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>> I concur with my fellow

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colleagues with Councillor

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Tedford's opinions were her own.

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My position was duly expressed

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by the way I voted. However, I

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do take wholehearted condone the

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actions last month. I think we

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could all do better. Thank you.

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>> I'd like to start by

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suggesting that after the vice

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president's behaviour last

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month, Sotramont should have

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written Council with an apology,

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not a demand for a retraction or

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sensor of a councillor who was

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explaining their vote. Their

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condo project had already been

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approved by a majority, by the

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majority counsel, and their

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demand to us seems to be another

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attempt to intimidate and

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silence debate just like the one

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we all witnessed at our last

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meeting. Councillor Tedford

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arrived at her conclusions and

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decided to vote based on careful

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research and reading of our

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bylaws and the documents

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presented to her by City staff.

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Due to my understanding she

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based her vote in opposition to

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the project, on three key if

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issues. Electrical car charges.

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Second, the project did not

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include first floor commercial

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place to provide amenities for

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residents such as a pharmacy or

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a deep honour. A special

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planning program for the city

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center. Finally, she did not

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want to approve the project in

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the absence of a final

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landscaping plan setting out

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where trees would be planted.

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This was because of Sotramont's

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track record of having cut trees

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on its line in 2014 in a process

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which began even before they

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were in granted the construction

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permit on the 20th. Previous

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council approved that phase of

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the project unanimously and did

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not fine Sotramont for cutting

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without a permit and presenting

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our arborist was done deal. I

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agree with Councillor Tedford's

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arguments, but even those who

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don't shouldn't support

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Sotramont's request it. We'll

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send a message that we condone

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the vice presidents unacceptable

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behaviour last month and that we

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don't allow the dissenting of

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opinions that are vital 20

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democracy. Thank you. Merci.

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>> The agenda.

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>> Approve the agenda with the

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following changes. Withdrawal of

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01 - Ordre du jour 01.01

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Approuver l'ordre du jour

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l'10:08 and

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Approbation de l'ordre du jour

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avec le retrait des points 10.08

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et 30.01.

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- O.K..

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>> Okay. Approve the French and

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English versions? I

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>> Need a mover and a seconder.

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>> Oh, sorry. Do I have a mover?

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>> I move to approve the agenda.

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Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, district

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3.

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>> Eric Stork, district 7.

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>> I like to propose an

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amendment to the agenda.

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>> Oh, it's. Off

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>> In keeping with your opening

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remarks I would like to propose

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agenda item 102, a motion of

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censure.

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The motion of censure when we

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come up it will be explained at

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the time if the motion is

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approved, if the amendment is

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approved.

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>> Oh okay,

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- 04.01?

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>> We have to go back with the

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approval of the agenda or not.

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[Inaudible]

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>> We're not centering, it's

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just putting it on the agenda to

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do that. That will. Calm but it

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needs to be seconded. The

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amendment needs to be seconded

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first.

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>> Just to be clear, Mister

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Councillor Cohen proposed an

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amendment to the agenda, to add

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a motion at 01.02, so we need to

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vote on that and then go back to

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the approval of the agenda

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without the amendment.

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>> Mister Mayor, yes, I would

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ask the City Clerk to explain

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the situation so the folks in

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the audience can understand what

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is exactly going on, thank you.

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>> We are at the approval of the

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agenda and before the boat there

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is a debate that on the

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proposition which is approve the

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agenda as presented by the City

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Clerk Oshawa office, with the

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agenda written by my staff that

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you have before you tonight and

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my understanding is Mr. Cohen

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wants to amend the agenda as

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proposed tonight. And he wants

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to add an amendment to the

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agenda by adding one 01.02. And

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you need to vote, as to add this

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item on the agenda and then you

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will go to majority. You go back

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to approval of the agenda with

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this amendment added.

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>> So we need a mover and

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seconder.

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>> For the amendment. First

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>> I moved it so we need to

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second it.

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>> Point of clarification,

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please. What is being censored?

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[Inaudible]

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>> Councillor Cohen --

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>> I can explain it, but --

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>> Motions censure.

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>> Well, people have to move,

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second, and vote. If people are

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going to move, second, and vote,

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they have to know what is being

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proposed.

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>> Mister Mayor, I just want to

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be clear here, Mr. Cohen

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proposed a motion to amend the

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agenda. So now we need to vote,

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we need a seconder on this

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amendment amendment and a vote.

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On this. That it.

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>> I'm just asking one it is.

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>> Tell us what it is.

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>> Point of order. This is just

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an agenda item. There's no

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explanation of an agenda item.

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That will come up during the

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discussion, if there is a

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discussion. If there is no

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discussion, then this item dies.

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If there is no second.

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[Inaudible]

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>> Just tell us what it. Is

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>> Will this motion be seconded?

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>> Yes, I second the motion of

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censure.

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>> All in favour?

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>> Take your hands off me.

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>> Against?

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>> And now we go back to the

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rule of the agenda with the

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amendment, and the withdrawal of

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10.08 and 30.01 an. And

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>> I move to accept,.

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>> Eric Stork, district 7.

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>> We need to vote.

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>> All in favour?

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>> I thought we did. That, okay.

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>> Against?

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>> Who's against?

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- Personne? Non, non, mais...

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>> Mr. Tremblay,

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I didn't see you vote. To the

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approval of the agenda

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L'approbation de l'ordre du

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jour..

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You are against? And Mister

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Mayor, you didn't vote?

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>> No.

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>>

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- Okay. I'm not non.

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- O.K.. Clear on what we're

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voting on here.

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Yes, thank you. I think there

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are more than two. Okay.

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>> 01.02? Motion of censure?

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>> I'm prepared to read the

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motion. Motion is as follows.

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Whereas in accordance with mayor

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Thomas's instruction on

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Wednesday 21st of September his

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office disseminated an email

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communicate to Council

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throughout the city

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administration and to certain

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members of the general public.

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The purpose of which was to

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distribute as an attachment a

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private email exchange between

561
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Mr. Bryan green way and mayor

562
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Thomas. Whereas detachment

563
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000
included statements where he

564
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
defamed a colleague on Council

565
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000
and cast aspersions on the

566
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
replays environment in which he

567
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
finds himself, administration

568
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
and Council might hold

569
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
responsible which is a clear

570
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000
violation of ethical values.

571
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Whereas Mayor Thomas has refused

572
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000
to take full responsibility for

573
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000
his reach of our norms of

574
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000
ethical conduct and issue a

575
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000
personal apology. Be resolved

576
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000
that this council expresses is

577
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000
profound regret that mayor

578
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Thomas cause to be transmitted

579
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
to the administration the

580
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000
aforesaid email exchange wherein

581
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
he employed defamatory and

582
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000
disloyal language, thereby

583
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000
causing hurt and distress, and a

584
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
shot to displeasure that Mayor

585
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Thomas has rejected his duty to

586
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000
accept the full responsibility

587
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000
for this act and has equally

588
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000
rejected the simple remedy of

589
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,060
issuing a personal apology.

590
00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:03,060
>> French version, please

591
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:04,060
- En. Français, s'il vous plaît?

592
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:05,060
-

593
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:06,060
>> En français, s'il vous plaît?

594
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:07,060
Pardon, me at the

595
00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:09,060
Beginning, Mr. Thomas, may I

596
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:10,060
speak? At the beginning of the

597
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:12,060
Mr. Thomas you said you would

598
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:16,060
remove offender behaviour.

599
00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:17,060
>> Excuse Moore, Councillor

600
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:18,060
Thorstad-Cullen, that's my call,

601
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:19,060
not yours, thank you very much.

602
00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:21,060
What I will do is respond to

603
00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:23,060
what some of your confusions

604
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:25,060
are.

605
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,060
>> Mister Mayor, maybe we should

606
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:28,060
take a break to discuss the

607
00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:29,060
French version of the amendment.

608
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:31,060
>> Okay.

609
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:32,060
>> I think we should take a

610
00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:33,060
break.

611
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:34,060
>> Just, before we do that, part

612
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,060
of the procedure is, this is the

613
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:37,060
motion that has just been read,

614
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:39,060
I am moving, it it has to be

615
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,060
seconded, and then normally we

616
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:45,060
would have a discussion.

617
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:48,060
- On l'a pas eue en français.

618
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:49,060
- On va prendre quelques

619
00:26:49,060 --> 00:26:51,060
instants, on va ajourner la

620
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:53,060
session, on va vous revenir, je

621
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:54,060
pense que j'apprécierais qu'on

622
00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:56,060
prenne un petit instant.

623
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
(bruits)

624
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
- Bon. When

625
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,060
We left, Mr. Cohen moved his

626
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:06,060
proposition. We need a seconder.

627
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:08,060
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

628
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:11,060
district three.

629
00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:16,060
>> No. Mr. --

630
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:23,060
>> Let's be respectful.

631
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:26,060
>> I am. I respect Québec.

632
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:29,060
[Inaudible]

633
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:35,060
>> That's why it's inadmissible.

634
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:45,060
>> Est-ce qu'on entend la

635
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:46,060
version en français? I'll read

636
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:47,060
both again. Whereas in

637
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:49,060
Accordance with mayor Thomas his

638
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:51,060
instructions on Wednesday --

639
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:53,060
just the French. We already

640
00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:56,060
heard the English.

641
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:23,020
On a

642
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:24,020
(problème technique)

643
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:26,020
Entendu que la pièce jointe

644
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:30,020
contenait des déclarations dans

645
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:35,020
lequel le maire monsieur Thomas

646
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:37,020
J. est le discrédit sur son

647
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:40,020
milieu de travail ainsi que des

648
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:41,020
membres de l'administration qui

649
00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:45,020
pourrait être responsable, ce

650
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:49,020
qui consiste en une

651
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:50,020
manifestation

652
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:51,020
(---)

653
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:52,020
l'entière responsabilité de

654
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:53,020
cette transgression de nos

655
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:55,020
normes de conduite éthique et de

656
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,020
présenter des excuses

657
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,020
personnelles. Il est résolu que

658
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:01,080
le conseil exprime son profond

659
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,080
regret que le maire Thomas tient

660
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,080
à transmettre à l'administration

661
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080
et au grand public et l'échange

662
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,080
de courriels susmentionnés dans

663
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,080
lequel il a employé un langage

664
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,080
diffamatoire et déloyales

665
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,080
causant ainsi de la désolation

666
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,080
et de la détresse, de même que

667
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,080
son vive mécontentement face au

668
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,080
maire Thomas pour avoir manqué à

669
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
son devoir d'accepter l'entière

670
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,080
responsabilité de cet acte et a

671
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,080
refusé d'y remédier à la

672
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,080
présentation d'excuses

673
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,080
personnelles.

674
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,080
>>

675
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,080
We need a vote.

676
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,080
>> No.

677
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,080
>> Mr. Cohen, first move. -- we

678
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,080
need a vote now.

679
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,080
>> All in favour? Against? Okay.

680
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,080
>> May I speak, Mister Mayor?

681
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,080
>> Absolutely.

682
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,040
>> While I deplore any kind of

683
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,040
harmful exchanges on email

684
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,040
whether through intimidation, et

685
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,040
cetera, et cetera -- I also

686
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,040
deplore the tactics and

687
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,040
procedural approaches taken

688
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
tonight in order to resolve this

689
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
issue in a public forum of this

690
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,040
sort. For that reason, I voted

691
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,040
against.

692
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,040
>> You shouldn't yell out.

693
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,040
Mister --, could I recommend

694
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,040
that you wait until west period?

695
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,040
Please, or we will have to ask

696
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,040
you to leave. Okay. Please

697
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,040
refrain from any more comments.

698
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040
Sir. Mr. sorrow, you are not

699
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:50,040
leaving the must choice.

700
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,040
>> You are afraid to have a

701
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,040
response.

702
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,040
[Inaudible]

703
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000
>> Mr.. Okay.

704
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Well, it's a first for me. Okay.

705
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Madame Thibault, -- Madame

706
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Thibault... qu'est-ce qu'on va

707
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,000
faire maintenant?

708
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000
>> I'd like to respond.

709
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
- 04.01. I'll try

710
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
And bring a little human speak

711
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
to the room. What's being

712
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
referred to here was an

713
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000
occurrence that occurred a

714
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
couple weeks ago. I woke up one

715
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,000
morning in my personal home and

716
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,000
I was sent an email by my friend

717
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,000
who I had invited and had

718
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,000
performed at the West Island

719
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
blues fest, in Pointe-Claire. He

720
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,000
wrote me, he's a good friend.

721
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,000
We've had various exchanges

722
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,060
along the way. We talked about

723
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:01,060
the show, what he was going to

724
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:03,060
do, how he felt about it. We've

725
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:05,060
had some feedback. We've had

726
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,060
various long conversations in

727
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:10,060
email on my private home. I woke

728
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:13,060
up one morning after the blues

729
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:14,060
festival, a couple days after,

730
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:18,060
and Bryan wrote this: hi, Tim. I

731
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:19,060
wanted to mention to you what a

732
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:21,060
perfect choice the venue was for

733
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:22,060
the West Island blues festival

734
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:26,060
in -- the park itself became but

735
00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:28,060
-- came into being a centerpiece

736
00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:30,060
with the surrounding buildings

737
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:32,060
tastefully lighted, accentuating

738
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:34,060
the parameters of the park,

739
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:35,060
leaving a nice feeling of being

740
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:38,060
in a public square. The Billings

741
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:40,060
themselves lent a hand in giving

742
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:41,060
wonderful reflection from the

743
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:43,060
sound system and crowd control.

744
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:46,060
The addition of blocking off the

745
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:47,060
intersection of Cartier and

746
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:49,060
Lakeshore also contributed to

747
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:51,060
the safety of the public, with

748
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:53,060
the overflow of people into the

749
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,060
streets -- the flow of attendees

750
00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:57,060
and go freely to all the

751
00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,060
festival sites and vendors. We

752
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:02,020
can thank you enough and the

753
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:03,020
city of Pointe-Claire staff for

754
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:05,020
doing such a perfect job of

755
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:06,020
creating a beautiful summer

756
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:07,020
night in a music festival

757
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:10,020
setting. From the perspective of

758
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,020
a seasoned professional, many

759
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:12,020
artists perform there at night,

760
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:14,020
it could not have been better

761
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:16,020
prepared. Perfect sound and

762
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:18,020
lighting systems with good

763
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:19,020
security for backstage access.

764
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:22,020
Thank you again. Ryan Greenaway,

765
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:26,020
April one. Member of the

766
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:27,020
Canadian music hall of fame. I

767
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:29,020
was thrilled when I received

768
00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:31,020
that. He put such work into it

769
00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:34,020
and care into the writing of it.

770
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:36,020
I was so excited. I wanted all

771
00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:38,020
the people -- not everybody, not

772
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:41,020
all the staff -- and know

773
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:42,020
certain members of the grand

774
00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:44,020
public, I sent an email

775
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:45,020
specifically to the staff who

776
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:49,020
provided that event. I wanted

777
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:52,020
them to know, to get this letter

778
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:54,020
from a rock star, knowing that

779
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:56,020
such an experienced man a

780
00:47:56,020 --> 00:47:58,020
appreciated their efforts. I was

781
00:47:58,020 --> 00:47:59,020
thrilled and excited so I

782
00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:02,080
forwarded the email from my we

783
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080
personal computer to my work

784
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,080
computer. First time I've done

785
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,080
this. I won't do it again. I

786
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,080
said, Teresa, please send this

787
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
to public works. Security,

788
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,080
leisure. All the people in those

789
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,080
departments are responsible for

790
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,080
the event. They know how much I

791
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,080
appreciate them and what this

792
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,080
person thinks of their efforts.

793
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,080
And Teresa sent it.

794
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Unfortunately, unbeknownst to

795
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,080
me, 20 minutes later she came

796
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,080
and said, unfortunately, there

797
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,080
is a whole email exchange you

798
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
had had with Mr. Greenaway

799
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,080
attached below that message.

800
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,080
That went out to the staff. A

801
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,080
rookie mistake. Motives were

802
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,080
good but it went out to the

803
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,080
staff. That being said, we try

804
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,080
to pull it back immediately. But

805
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,080
it was forwarded and exchanged.

806
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,080
I let it said for a couple days.

807
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080
As is my procedure, I don't know

808
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,040
what I should do with something

809
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,040
-- I sit on it and ruminate.

810
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Then I started talking to staff

811
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,040
and how they felt. Some giggled.

812
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,040
It wasn't a horrendous thing. It

813
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,040
was not nice but it wasn't a

814
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,040
horrendous thing. It was a

815
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,040
personal exchange that should

816
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,040
not have gotten out there. I

817
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,040
wouldn't have put it out there

818
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,040
had I not known they were going

819
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,040
public -- I made a boo-boo. I

820
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
asked if if they were offended.

821
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,040
All the staff I consulted said

822
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,040
no. That it was unfortunate and

823
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,040
people reprimanded me with, my

824
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,040
clearly -- clumsiness of using

825
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040
email, which I deserve. And

826
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,040
that's where I let it sit for me

827
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,040
and that is where it sits

828
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,040
tonight. That's why you have

829
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,040
heard what you have heard.

830
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,040
>> I have a comment, please. --

831
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,040
>> Whether you like it or not.

832
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,040
>> You know what?

833
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,040
>> I will be provided a list of

834
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,040
city employees.

835
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,000
>> Councillor Cowan already

836
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
spoke.

837
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
>> I'm entitled to speak. Mr.

838
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Thomas, I would like to be

839
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000
provided a list -- that agreed

840
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000
with your statement. That is

841
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,000
false.

842
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000
>> Well. That's not the ones I'm

843
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
talking to. There we go.

844
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
>> Where do we go from here? We

845
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,000
go to --

846
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,000
>> I simply -- why we put this

847
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,000
motion out is because the

848
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
majority of Council wanted to

849
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
apologize to our city employees.

850
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000
We need to uphold our code of

851
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000
ethics, our behaviour, our

852
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000
civility, our baseline level of

853
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,000
respect. We felt that the city

854
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000
of Pointe-Claire employees

855
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
deserves at least an apology on

856
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000
our part that is simply all it

857
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,000
is.

858
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000
>> Okay.

859
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,000
>> As the mover, I have one last

860
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000
comment.

861
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,000
>> You had enough to say.

862
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,000
>> This would've been

863
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,060
unnecessary if the mayor was

864
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:02,060
were approached through asking

865
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:04,060
to do the right thing for the

866
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:05,060
last week and he refused. That

867
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:06,060
made it necessary to do what we

868
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:09,060
are doing tonight.

869
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:10,060
>> I did not refuse. I consulted

870
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:13,060
others. I was told it was not

871
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:15,060
necessary. Where do we go from

872
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:19,060
here? Do we go to question

873
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:21,060
period? Do we approve the French

874
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:25,060
and --

875
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:26,060
- Qu'est-ce 04.01 Approuver les

876
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:27,060
versions françaises et les

877
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:28,060
versions anglaises des

878
00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:29,060
procès-verbaux de la séance

879
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:30,060
ordinaire du 6 septembre 2022 et

880
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:31,060
de la séance extraordinaire du

881
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:32,060
13 septembre 2022.

882
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:33,060
>> Do I have a mover?

883
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:35,060
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

884
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:36,060
District three.

885
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:37,060
>> And seconder?

886
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:38,060
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

887
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:42,060
>> All in favour?

888
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:45,060
- Question period.!.,,.

889
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,020
(---)

890
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:09,020
. For a question period, we

891
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:12,020
shall stick to the 90 minute

892
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:13,020
limit for that question period

893
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:14,020
as has been done in the past. We

894
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:16,020
will begin with questions from

895
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:17,020
Pointe-Claire residents and

896
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:18,020
address Questions from the

897
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:19,020
developers only after these have

898
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:20,020
been answered. If the developers

899
00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:25,020
questions are not redundant.

900
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:27,020
>> This is about council

901
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:31,020
meetings. Okay. You are talking

902
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:35,020
at the beginning. I feel Council

903
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:37,020
meetings are far too long.

904
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:40,020
Other people feel so as well.

905
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:41,020
Those who most likely voted for

906
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:44,020
you to go on at length far too

907
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:46,020
long, you don't often answer.

908
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:47,020
You instead you like to talk

909
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:49,020
about your own accomplishments.

910
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:52,020
Citizens need a time-limited

911
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:54,020
question period. Your answers

912
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:55,020
should only pertain to City

913
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:58,020
business. You can answer yes or

914
00:52:58,020 --> 00:52:59,020
no to time limits for questions

915
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:02,080
and answers.

916
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,080
>> Would I like some?

917
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,080
>> Yes or no?

918
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,080
>> Yeah, absolutely. In your

919
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,080
instance especially.

920
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,080
>> Okay. Thank you. I won't go

921
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,080
on very long.

922
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,080
>> You don't go on very long?

923
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,080
Okay. We will deal with that in

924
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,080
a second.

925
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,080
>> No, we are not going to deal

926
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,080
with that.

927
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080
>> We will do whatever I will

928
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,080
decide on that one.

929
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,080
>> At last council meeting, I

930
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
asked about you having a

931
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,080
political adviser. No answer was

932
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,080
given. Instead you reacted and

933
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,080
responded that you didn't know

934
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,080
what to do -- was that a threat

935
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,080
or a condescending remark?

936
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
>> Miss Weaver, you are so

937
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,080
perplexing in your questions

938
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,080
that I sometimes don't know what

939
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,080
to do with you. Your question

940
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,080
about the political adviser was

941
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,080
particularly interesting because

942
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,080
I've been a paid political

943
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,080
advisor at a much higher level.

944
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,080
The person who was accused of

945
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,080
being my political advisor was

946
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,040
in fact my former student. I

947
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,040
would never pay him to be my

948
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,040
political adviser, I promise. I

949
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,040
found the question perplexing.

950
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,040
Bordering on absurd-ism.

951
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,040
Regarding people who go on too

952
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,040
long, and those who voted for

953
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,040
you, Miss Weaver, that's really

954
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,040
interesting. I have allowed you

955
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
so much time at the microphone.

956
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040
That's kind of disingenuous and

957
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,040
doesn't hold much water. That's

958
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,040
my answer.

959
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,040
>> My question was, was it a

960
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,040
threat or a condescending remark

961
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,040
when you wanted --

962
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,040
>> No threat nor condescending

963
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,040
remark. I explained it, Miss

964
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Weaver, I said it was

965
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,040
perplexing. Thank you, Miss

966
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Weaver. Do you have a question?

967
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,040
You have another question?

968
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
>> I have a copy.

969
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,040
>> You have two questions.

970
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,040
You've asked one. Miss Weaver,

971
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,040
you have two questions. You've

972
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040
asked one. Okay, thank you.

973
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,040
Thank you.

974
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:59,040
>> So, it was a threat?

975
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000
>> Hi. We are -- Ron Williams

976
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,000
from -- in the Cedar Park

977
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:13,000
district. The point we wanted to

978
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,000
bring up today is a follow-up

979
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000
concerning a question that we

980
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,000
raised at a meeting in the early

981
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
spring, relative to that

982
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
instruction of the green

983
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,000
triangle in the middle of

984
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,000
Killarney gardens, our street.

985
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
It's a replacement with a gravel

986
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,000
parking lot for the making of

987
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,000
the film in a nearby house. The

988
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
neighbours were shocked. We

989
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,000
formally asked the City to

990
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000
repair the damage. They said you

991
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,000
would, you said you would. And

992
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,000
you did. The job was completed

993
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
about six weeks ago. It's a

994
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
beautiful piece of work. It's

995
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,000
well created, well spotted.

996
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,060
People started playing ball and

997
00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:03,060
so on on the green. All the

998
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:05,060
neighbours we've spoken with are

999
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:07,060
very happy with the result. We

1000
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:08,060
wanted to thank, particularly,

1001
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:13,060
Mayor Tim Thomas, Councillor for

1002
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:17,060
our district, Erin Tedford, and

1003
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:18,060
all members of Council for

1004
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:21,060
approving these repairs. And we

1005
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:24,060
know that employees from several

1006
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:25,060
departments at the City were

1007
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:28,060
involved. We are not sure how

1008
00:56:28,060 --> 00:56:30,060
many developed mince. And the

1009
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:33,060
contractor, north strung, did a

1010
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:35,060
nice job. It wasn't easy with --

1011
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:37,060
a lot of gravel, very heavy work

1012
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:41,060
done. We think this is

1013
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:45,060
particularly important for

1014
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:45,060
Pointe-Claire, which prides

1015
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:50,060
itself on being a green city. We

1016
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:51,060
think that Pointe-Claire should

1017
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:52,060
be a champion of sustainable

1018
00:56:52,060 --> 00:56:56,060
development. The basic

1019
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:58,060
principles of which include

1020
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:01,020
protection of flora and fauna,

1021
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:02,020
particularly green areas and

1022
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:07,020
naturally forested areas. In all

1023
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:11,020
the projects the City undertakes

1024
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:12,020
and all the private projects it

1025
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:16,020
approves. Other major issues,

1026
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:19,020
water retention and management,

1027
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:22,020
respect for heritage values, and

1028
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:23,020
protection of the environment

1029
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:26,020
and the citizens from pollution

1030
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:31,020
and toxic materials.

1031
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:36,020
>> To follow up on our

1032
00:57:36,020 --> 00:57:40,020
experience with the green

1033
00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:43,020
becoming an enormous -- for a

1034
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:45,020
movie company, we were looking

1035
00:57:45,020 --> 00:57:50,020
to the future, that our green

1036
00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:53,020
space -- it could be called

1037
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:55,020
Killarney green. Like we have

1038
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:56,020
the bowling green. We have many

1039
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:59,020
green spaces in Pointe-Claire.

1040
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:03,080
We look to council as you are

1041
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,080
our policy makers, our leaders

1042
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,080
in Pointe-Claire, that you come

1043
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,080
to terms with the fact that

1044
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080
every green space in

1045
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080
Pointe-Claire is precious to the

1046
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,080
residents who reside around

1047
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,080
them. And that an effort should

1048
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080
be made -- selfishly, in our

1049
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080
case -- that you protect our

1050
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,080
little green space and you put

1051
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,080
it on your city planning map as

1052
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,080
green. Right now, it is white,

1053
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,080
which means anything can happen.

1054
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,080
In fact, when we bought our

1055
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,080
property, that was a question we

1056
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,080
asked. Can anybody build on this

1057
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,080
green space? We were told, no,

1058
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,080
no, nobody will do anything. We

1059
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080
think there should be concerted

1060
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,080
efforts by this city fathers and

1061
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:58,080
others to really protect, a

1062
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,080
status that will protect these

1063
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,040
green spaces so that no film

1064
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,040
company or whatever can come in

1065
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,040
and just wipe it out. This is my

1066
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,040
question to you. Will you please

1067
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:16,040
consider this status for the

1068
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,040
green space to become a

1069
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,040
permanent status, whereby it can

1070
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,040
never be encroached again in

1071
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,040
this manner? Thank you.

1072
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,040
>> Thank you.

1073
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,040
[Applause]

1074
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040
I can't speak for Council. I'm

1075
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,040
pretty confident that's an

1076
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,040
excellent suggestion to have it

1077
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,040
zoned green as opposed to white,

1078
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
I think, there is no reason why

1079
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,040
that shouldn't happen. It makes

1080
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,040
complete sense to me. It can't

1081
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,040
be developed upon. Yes.

1082
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,040
>> I wanted to talk about the

1083
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,000
soil trauma development. We've

1084
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,000
had a lot of talk about how the

1085
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
city of Pointe-Claire has to

1086
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,000
follow the guidelines of the p

1087
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,000
math in's our bylaws and zoning

1088
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,000
bylaws like regulations.

1089
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,000
However, that the math has a

1090
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
special criteria on page 90 in

1091
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
the for the tide areas -- that

1092
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,000
is the areas close to transit

1093
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,000
hub and it says they would like

1094
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
to have a gradation from the

1095
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,000
access point that is access to

1096
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,000
the transit stations -- slot

1097
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,000
development is maximized while

1098
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,000
respecting local landscape and

1099
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000
natural environment, promoting

1100
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,000
diversity and a better

1101
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
horizontal and vertical -- so

1102
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,000
forth. To cultivate a dynamic

1103
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,060
community life while adapting to

1104
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:03,060
the landscaping of the --

1105
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:08,060
managing storm water runoff. The

1106
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:12,060
development in the area in

1107
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:13,060
Sotramont does not respect any

1108
01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:14,060
of these. And the high-rises are

1109
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:18,060
next to family homes. The areas

1110
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:19,060
with Sotramont the residential

1111
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:22,060
housing on land are raised up by

1112
01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:25,060
tens of landfill -- educate --

1113
01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:27,060
above all the surrounding areas.

1114
01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:30,060
With inadequate water retention

1115
01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:32,060
facilities for we -- the result

1116
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:34,060
is major flooding problems for

1117
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:35,060
the neighbouring lots,

1118
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:37,060
especially the established lots,

1119
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:39,060
and the older houses surrounding

1120
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:42,060
are having terrible problems.

1121
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:44,060
The standing with a lot and

1122
01:01:44,060 --> 01:01:46,060
seasonal wetland was completely

1123
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:50,060
clear cut and landfilled. The

1124
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:53,060
two acres given to the city were

1125
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:55,060
left flooded for over a year.

1126
01:01:55,060 --> 01:01:58,060
All the trees are dead. In that

1127
01:01:58,060 --> 01:02:00,020
area, and the only trees that I

1128
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,020
know of are now on city land. I

1129
01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:03,020
don't think there are any trees

1130
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:07,020
on the private property left.

1131
01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:09,020
Just in the fronts and backs of

1132
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:13,020
the sidewalks. I would like to

1133
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:16,020
know, you said in your preamble

1134
01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:18,020
that Sotramont preceded with a

1135
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:19,020
clear cutting of the trees

1136
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:24,020
before they had a permit. Is

1137
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:25,020
that so? Were they find?

1138
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:26,020
>> I don't know the specifics on

1139
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:29,020
that. From what I understand,

1140
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:31,020
they were fined. We this was

1141
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:33,020
before my. Time I'm going on

1142
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:34,020
what Councillor Tedford

1143
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:36,020
researched. I will turn that one

1144
01:02:36,020 --> 01:02:37,020
over to Mr. Sydney who knows the

1145
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:38,020
issue and it was there at the

1146
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:40,020
time.

1147
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:44,020
>> By August 2019, the entire

1148
01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:47,020
area of -- was completely clear

1149
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:49,020
cut and bulldozers were moving

1150
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:50,020
at landfill in. In fact, the

1151
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:52,020
trees that were given to the

1152
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:55,020
city, that's stretch of land

1153
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:56,020
between Park and Austin, which

1154
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:59,020
is supposed to be the parks and

1155
01:02:59,020 --> 01:03:02,080
recreation levy, they were

1156
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,080
bulldozing landfill up against

1157
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,080
the trees. An entire line of

1158
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
trees, which supposedly belongs

1159
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,080
to the city of Pointe-Claire

1160
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,080
now, had landfills bulldozed up

1161
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:15,080
against it. About this high.

1162
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,080
Those trees were dead instantly.

1163
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,080
No tree can survive that. The

1164
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,080
rest were left and flooded land

1165
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,080
for over a year and they all

1166
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:29,080
died. I mean, the trees they cut

1167
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,080
down in the whole area north of

1168
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,080
there, did they do that with a

1169
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,080
permit?

1170
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,080
>> Since day one, we've been

1171
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,080
negotiating almost on a weekly

1172
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,080
basis with the Sotramont

1173
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,080
executives. It's still going on.

1174
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,080
All the trees that have been cut

1175
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:52,080
have to be replaced. Of course,

1176
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,080
the trees that were cut, some of

1177
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,080
them were quite, they were

1178
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,080
mature trees but they are being

1179
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,040
replaced by younger tree. We are

1180
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,040
still negotiating with

1181
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,040
Sotramont, to make sure that

1182
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,040
they will respect everything

1183
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,040
that has been put on their

1184
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:14,040
plans. We have negotiated with

1185
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:20,040
them and it still going on. We

1186
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,040
even had a meeting the last week

1187
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:26,040
with them as well. Every time we

1188
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,040
go for visits, all our directors

1189
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,040
for public works, engineering,

1190
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,040
public security, urban planning,

1191
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,040
every time we have something to

1192
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,040
negotiate, we sit down before,

1193
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
we look at what still has to be

1194
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,040
done in the Greenwich village

1195
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,040
and we asked Sotramont to

1196
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,040
correct what has to be

1197
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,040
corrected.

1198
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,040
>> Why are you negotiating with

1199
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,040
them and not just finding them?

1200
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,040
>> Right now, it's just that

1201
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,000
they still have the chance to

1202
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000
correct whatever has to be

1203
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000
corrected. If it's not

1204
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,000
corrected, they will be fined.

1205
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,000
>> I had a beautiful --

1206
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
>> That's two questions.

1207
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,000
>> Okay. But I had a beautiful

1208
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,000
spruce tree on my property,

1209
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
huge, old spruce tree. I liked

1210
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,000
it very much. However, in that

1211
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000
wind, the root lifted out of the

1212
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,000
ground. I consulted and arborist

1213
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,000
and was told the tree is doomed.

1214
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,000
It's a danger. You have to cut

1215
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,000
it down. The city said we have

1216
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,000
to send an inspector. You need

1217
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,000
to get a permit. Even if the

1218
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000
tree is a danger, if you cut it

1219
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
down before you get a permit, we

1220
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,000
will find you and make you

1221
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,000
replace it. The city was set to

1222
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,000
find me and make me replace the

1223
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,000
tree. Why not Sotramont?

1224
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,000
>> You've had to. There we go.

1225
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,060
>> From district A. Good evening

1226
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:05,060
attendance and Council. I've got

1227
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:06,060
two preamble's into questions

1228
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:09,060
directed to you, Mister Mayor.

1229
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:12,060
>> Sir, the preamble has got us

1230
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:13,060
nervous. You've given us a lot

1231
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:15,060
of preamble of the last couple

1232
01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:16,060
of meetings. We know your facts

1233
01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:18,060
for sure. You presented a long

1234
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:20,060
--

1235
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:21,060
>> I will be quick.

1236
01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:22,060
>> Can you adjust the

1237
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,060
microphone, please?

1238
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:28,060
>> I will be brief. My first --

1239
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:31,060
so my questions are presenting

1240
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:32,060
this citizens effort to get the

1241
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:35,060
city of Pointe-Claire to pass a

1242
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:40,060
resolution to get -- a stop --

1243
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:45,060
water Plante. The first point is

1244
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:48,060
a document I received through

1245
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:49,060
access to information from the

1246
01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:51,060
City of Montréal, which I

1247
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:52,060
forwarded to every member of

1248
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:56,060
Council this morning. This

1249
01:06:56,060 --> 01:06:59,060
document says that the

1250
01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:00,020
fluoridation chemical that's

1251
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:03,020
added to Pointe-Claire's water

1252
01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:04,020
-- contaminated with trace

1253
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,020
levels of arsenic and lead.

1254
01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:09,020
Talking about a green city. What

1255
01:07:09,020 --> 01:07:12,020
green city adds trace levels of

1256
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:13,020
arsenic and lead to their

1257
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:14,020
drinking water intentionally?

1258
01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:15,020
The question with that is, how

1259
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:17,020
long should Pointe-Claire

1260
01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:18,020
residents continue drinking

1261
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:19,020
water laced intentionally with

1262
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:24,020
arsenic and lead? The second

1263
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:27,020
point is, we are at 3600

1264
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:28,020
signatures of residents who live

1265
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:32,020
in Pointe-Claire. That's the

1266
01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:33,020
petition part. Of the survey

1267
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:37,020
part, 1080 households who were

1268
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,020
asked to choose between yes and

1269
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,020
no we, household consecutively,

1270
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:46,020
76% of them have decided err on

1271
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:49,020
the side of caution and do not

1272
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,020
want fluoridation chemicals

1273
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:52,020
added to the drinking water. Are

1274
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:55,020
you going to ignore 3600

1275
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:59,020
residents of Pointe-Claire?

1276
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:00,080
That's over 13% of

1277
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,080
Pointe-Claire's voting

1278
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080
population. The question to that

1279
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:09,080
point is, would you put this

1280
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,080
topic on the agenda to be voted

1281
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:16,080
on? Today, you said that he

1282
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,080
would be mentioning silencing

1283
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,080
debate. This seems like this is

1284
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,080
being silenced. You also

1285
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,080
mentioned democracy. I think

1286
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,080
freedom of consent, people being

1287
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,080
medicated without consent with

1288
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:34,080
fluoridation -- substances laced

1289
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,080
with lead and arsenic, I mean,

1290
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,080
we aim for 0% lead and arsenic

1291
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,080
in drinking water. On top of

1292
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,080
that lead already being reached

1293
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,080
out of pipes from the -- to the

1294
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,080
drinking water.

1295
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,080
>> Okay.

1296
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,080
>> I was collecting signatures

1297
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,080
-- mothers telling me children

1298
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,080
are still getting dental -- it

1299
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,040
costs about $1,000 a tooth to

1300
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,040
recap. I met a 15-year-old girl

1301
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,040
who is to shied a smile because

1302
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,040
her teeth are damaged

1303
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,040
permanently because of this

1304
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,040
fluoridation chemical. We

1305
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,040
shouldn't have to worry about

1306
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,040
children overdosing on tap

1307
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,040
water, especially tap water

1308
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,040
laced with arsenic and lead.

1309
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,040
People are appalled to see this

1310
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,040
document. I'm taking this

1311
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,040
door-to-door. I don't want to go

1312
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,040
to court. To successfully won in

1313
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,040
court in other places in Canada.

1314
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,040
Pointe-Claire is the last place

1315
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,040
too -- the last play that's

1316
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,040
gonna be fluoridation in the

1317
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,040
entire province. -- being added

1318
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,040
intentionally to drinking water.

1319
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,040
Mind you, trace levels. We don't

1320
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,040
have that in any other food or

1321
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,040
drug product. That's a two

1322
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,040
questions.

1323
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,040
>> Okay.

1324
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,040
>> How long should --

1325
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,040
[Applause]

1326
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,040
How long should Pointe-Claire

1327
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,040
citizens have to drink water

1328
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
laced with arsenic and lead

1329
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,040
intentionally? Are you going to

1330
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,000
ignore 3600 and counting

1331
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000
individuals, 13% of

1332
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,000
Pointe-Claire's voting

1333
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,000
population by not putting this

1334
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,000
on the agenda?

1335
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,000
>> We won't do anything that

1336
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,000
goes against the wishes of the

1337
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,000
entire majority of Pointe-Claire

1338
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,000
citizens. Everybody who moved to

1339
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,000
Pointe-Claire is aware of the

1340
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,000
water in Pointe-Claire. It's

1341
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,000
been there for a very, very,

1342
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,000
very long time. Our water, of

1343
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,000
course, I'm answering now,

1344
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000
you've had your questions. We

1345
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,000
won't get into a debate here.

1346
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000
People -- parents aren't

1347
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,000
willingly having their children

1348
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000
drink water that, quote, laced

1349
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,000
with arsenic and lead. That's a

1350
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,000
bit dramatic. Laced with arsenic

1351
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,000
and lead. In other words,

1352
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,000
deliberately put in there to

1353
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
harm children. I can't see the

1354
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
bulk of the people running water

1355
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,000
in the Anglo or anywhere -- I

1356
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:57,000
have to think that -- and I

1357
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,000
don't know the science, maybe

1358
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,060
not as well as you do -- I am

1359
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:05,060
certainly willing to hear and

1360
01:11:05,060 --> 01:11:07,060
study more the issue and hear

1361
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:08,060
the science. I think we all are.

1362
01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:10,060
All of us of here are perfectly

1363
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:12,060
willing to hear the science. The

1364
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:14,060
science is not yet fully

1365
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:16,060
unanimous on the. It's not even

1366
01:11:16,060 --> 01:11:19,060
-- it's still highly debatable.

1367
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:20,060
Myself, personally, I'm not an

1368
01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:24,060
expert in this stuff. I will do

1369
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:27,060
what the majority -- I will

1370
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:28,060
promote -- because I can't do --

1371
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:29,060
but I will promote with the

1372
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:31,060
majority of my citizens want. If

1373
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:33,060
I hear an expression of

1374
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:35,060
unanimous expression one way or

1375
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:36,060
the other I will certainly

1376
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:38,060
advocate. There are a lot of

1377
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:39,060
people that are aware of

1378
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:43,060
Pointe-Claire's water and have

1379
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:46,060
no qualms and don't fear it. I

1380
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:47,060
don't know what the proportions

1381
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:50,060
are. I am willing to listen and

1382
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:52,060
try and understand what the

1383
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:54,060
proper solution to this is. I

1384
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,060
can't imagine that we, in all

1385
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:57,060
this time, are deliberately

1386
01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:59,060
hurting children or trying to

1387
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:00,020
hurt ourselves. I can't imagine

1388
01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:04,020
that. What I think and how the

1389
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:07,020
people delivering the water --

1390
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:09,020
it goes against what I think

1391
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:10,020
their motives are. I can't

1392
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:14,020
imagine it. I find the language

1393
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:15,020
dramatic I. Do except the

1394
01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:17,020
possibility that we may move

1395
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:18,020
away from fluoridation. I'm not

1396
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:21,020
sure. I'm not an expert in it.

1397
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:22,020
I've certainly been fair and

1398
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:25,020
allowed you to express yourself.

1399
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:27,020
I don't feel you've been

1400
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:28,020
silenced. That people are doing

1401
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:30,020
things without consent. I think

1402
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:32,020
it's out in the open, this

1403
01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:34,020
issue. I think you are debating

1404
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:36,020
it right now. I applaud you for

1405
01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:38,020
doing so. I will continue to do

1406
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:39,020
so. Hopefully, we will come out

1407
01:12:39,020 --> 01:12:41,020
on the right side of this issue,

1408
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:42,020
whichever way it is. I don't

1409
01:12:42,020 --> 01:12:43,020
have one side or the other, to

1410
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:46,020
be honest with you.

1411
01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:47,020
>> You have that email with the

1412
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:49,020
ingredients. It says it on line

1413
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:50,020
number five, heavy metal,

1414
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:51,020
arsenic, and led. We it's

1415
01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:54,020
written there.

1416
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:58,020
>> Thank you. I don't think it's

1417
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:03,080
laced. Ma'am, can I ask you to

1418
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,080
get in line. We are not allowing

1419
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,080
people to shout out from the

1420
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,080
audience anymore. We Mr. Searle

1421
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,080
has already left the premises

1422
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,080
for doing so. Yes, sir.

1423
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,080
>> Good evening. My name is Paul

1424
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,080
Atkinson. I live -- in

1425
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080
Pointe-Claire. I'm here with

1426
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,080
neighbours tonight. Last month,

1427
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,080
I came to Council to voice

1428
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,080
concerns about the -- properties

1429
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,080
between the Sotramont project

1430
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,080
and houses on Alston.

1431
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080
>> Could I ask people to stop

1432
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,080
talking while the gentleman asks

1433
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,080
his question? Just that a

1434
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,080
courtesy. I can't hear him very

1435
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,080
well.

1436
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,080
>> Mister Atkinson, can you move

1437
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,080
the mic -- lift that Mike

1438
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,080
further up. It's a bit too low.

1439
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,080
[Laughs]

1440
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,080
>> As I mentioned that evening

1441
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,080
last month, a house on Alston

1442
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,080
flooded last April with four

1443
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,080
feet of water accumulating in

1444
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,080
the basement of an elderly

1445
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,080
couple. They had to evacuate

1446
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,040
their house for weeks. The city,

1447
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,040
at the time, told us it was

1448
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,040
because Sotramont had failed to

1449
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,040
complete the ditch. Following

1450
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,040
the meeting last month, the

1451
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,040
residents of Alston, we met with

1452
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,040
our neighbours in the Greenwich

1453
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Cartier, Cartier Greenwich. One

1454
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,040
of the town houses also flooded

1455
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,040
last spring. One resident, whose

1456
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,040
town house flooded twice, has

1457
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,040
two children under five. This

1458
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,040
reinforces what I stated about

1459
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,040
flooding being a south --

1460
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,040
particularly for children and

1461
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,040
the elderly. With winter coming

1462
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,040
and a heavy snowfall predicted,

1463
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,040
we are fearful that flooding

1464
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,040
will occur again next spring.

1465
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,040
Thankfully, we are able to meet

1466
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,040
with officials from the City.

1467
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,040
Namely, Daniel say gay and Tim

1468
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,040
Thomas. We thank Mr. say again

1469
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,040
for his --

1470
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,040
>> Eric was there as well.

1471
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,040
>> Collectively, we would like

1472
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,040
to thank you both for taking the

1473
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,040
time to meet us on site and with

1474
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
our insurance. Councillor

1475
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,000
Stainforth is unavailable, but

1476
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,000
was at the similar meeting. We

1477
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,000
are happy to oblige. As a

1478
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,000
collective group of residents,

1479
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,000
today we submitted a written

1480
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,000
request for the City to hire an

1481
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
outside firm to evaluate the --

1482
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
one, what can be done to resolve

1483
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,000
the flooding in the forest? To,

1484
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,000
if the ditch is a sufficient --

1485
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,000
sufficient to prevent further

1486
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
flooding or if an alternative

1487
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,000
drainage solution is required.

1488
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000
One, the forest is perpetually

1489
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,000
flooded and no measures have

1490
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,000
been taken to fix this. Number

1491
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,000
two, while the edges may be

1492
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,000
greener and less expensive to

1493
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,000
the developer, we questioned

1494
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,000
whether it's the most effective

1495
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,000
way to drain water from what was

1496
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,000
formerly wetland. In addition to

1497
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,000
the flooding behind the three

1498
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,000
town houses in Greenwich Village

1499
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,000
last spring, that water level in

1500
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,000
the ditch was very high. If

1501
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,000
there is a greater amount of

1502
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,000
snowfall, and rainfall, in the

1503
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
spring, or a clog in the

1504
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,060
drainage, it could reach -- and

1505
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:02,060
this would cause flooding in my

1506
01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:06,060
house and my neighbour's houses.

1507
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:08,060
The third reason is we simply

1508
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:11,060
don't trust Sotramont work.

1509
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:12,060
According to the city, it's

1510
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:13,060
their work that led to the

1511
01:16:13,060 --> 01:16:15,060
floods. While they claim to have

1512
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:16,060
fix the issue, the water still

1513
01:16:16,060 --> 01:16:21,060
doesn't drain as expect.

1514
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:31,060
Sorry. Our question tonight, are

1515
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:34,060
you in favour of an independent

1516
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:35,060
study taking place and

1517
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:37,060
determining whether further

1518
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:38,060
drainage solutions are required

1519
01:16:38,060 --> 01:16:40,060
to prevent flooding on the

1520
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:42,060
houses on Alston in the

1521
01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:44,060
Greenwich project? If the study

1522
01:16:44,060 --> 01:16:46,060
showed that the current drainage

1523
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,060
solution is inadequate, what

1524
01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:49,060
measures with the city be

1525
01:16:49,060 --> 01:16:54,060
willing to take to fix it?

1526
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:56,060
>> Excuse me, Mister. Thomas may

1527
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:57,060
I?

1528
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:58,060
>> Absolutely.

1529
01:16:58,060 --> 01:16:59,060
>> Excuse me, Mister Atkinson,

1530
01:16:59,060 --> 01:17:02,020
as you know, and as I explained

1531
01:17:02,020 --> 01:17:03,020
to you, the city is being sued

1532
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:08,020
right now. Okay? As I told you

1533
01:17:08,020 --> 01:17:10,020
in the previous meeting, we

1534
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:11,020
cannot comment. We cannot give

1535
01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:14,020
you solutions. I've received

1536
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:16,020
your email, which was set at

1537
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:19,020
5:30 today. We are going to look

1538
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:23,020
at it. I haven't had the time to

1539
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:27,020
discuss this issue with caucus.

1540
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:31,020
That's as much information as I

1541
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:35,020
can give. I would suggest that

1542
01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:36,020
Council perhaps don't comment

1543
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:41,020
more than that.

1544
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:44,020
>> Thanks for your time.

1545
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:49,020
>> I'm going to go ahead.

1546
01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:55,020
>> Good evening. I hope

1547
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:58,020
everybody is doing well. Lynn

1548
01:17:58,020 --> 01:18:03,080
Conway. I want to talk about --

1549
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,080
[Inaudible]

1550
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,080
>> It's the lowering and raising

1551
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,080
mechanism that seems to be the

1552
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,080
issue here.

1553
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,080
>> Okay. The condo projects.

1554
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:44,080
The condo projects. It's the

1555
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,080
same question I asked last

1556
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,080
month. I would like more clarity

1557
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,080
on how a decision will be made

1558
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,080
on how decisions will be made

1559
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,080
following the report by that

1560
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,080
consulting firm, considering

1561
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,040
that six councillors -- how will

1562
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,040
Council abide by the results of

1563
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,040
the report?

1564
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,040
>> What report? I am unclear.

1565
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,040
>> The consulting firm we hired

1566
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,040
--

1567
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,040
>> Who hired the --

1568
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,040
>> Win --

1569
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,040
>> I'm not sure what consulting

1570
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,040
firm, and what issue.

1571
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,040
>> And the consulting we are

1572
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:29,040
doing for the icy be.

1573
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,040
>> Okay..

1574
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,040
>> We have hired a firm that

1575
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,040
will deal with public

1576
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,040
consultations.

1577
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:40,040
>> There is a report, right?

1578
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:45,040
>> They are engaging. They will

1579
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,040
engage in consulting the public.

1580
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,040
They have been hired to solicit

1581
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,040
the public to engage in public

1582
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,040
consultation.

1583
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,040
>> They will provide a report to

1584
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,040
you and Council. A decision will

1585
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,040
have to be made by Council. My

1586
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,000
question is, I'm concerned there

1587
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,000
are six councillors very pro

1588
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,000
developer. How will a decision

1589
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,000
be made? By the reports results?

1590
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,000
There's a lot of traffic and a

1591
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,000
lot of construction. Will there

1592
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,000
be more and more people in

1593
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,000
traffic? It's getting risky

1594
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,000
crossing the street now.

1595
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,000
>> I'm sure some councillors

1596
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,000
would take exception to them

1597
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,000
being pro developer. I can't

1598
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:30,000
imagine any of us, all of us

1599
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,000
together, would ever resist that

1600
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,000
results of the public

1601
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,000
consultation. We would

1602
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,000
certainly, certainly I'm sure

1603
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,000
they will be held public and I'm

1604
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000
sure everybody will listen to

1605
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,000
them. I hope. I can't imagine

1606
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,000
that happening. My feeling is

1607
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,000
that I'm not worried about it

1608
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,000
myself, personally. I think we

1609
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,000
will all listen to what the

1610
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,000
public says and abide

1611
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,000
accordingly. That's my hope. I

1612
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,060
suspect it may be the case.

1613
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:02,060
>> All the council meetings I've

1614
01:21:02,060 --> 01:21:05,060
been to recently, all the voting

1615
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:09,060
have gone for the developers.

1616
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:11,060
How can we know? Will there be a

1617
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:14,060
vote on the report?

1618
01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:18,060
>> Well, some of the decisions

1619
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:20,060
recently have been based on the

1620
01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:22,060
degree of completion of various

1621
01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:25,060
projects. Some of them are

1622
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:27,060
exempt from the ICB because they

1623
01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:28,060
were far along and it would

1624
01:21:28,060 --> 01:21:32,060
jeopardize them. That is some of

1625
01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:33,060
the rationale for why people

1626
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:37,060
vote the way they vote. I can't

1627
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:38,060
imagine -- I just can't imagine

1628
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:40,060
any of us would deny the result

1629
01:21:40,060 --> 01:21:45,060
of public consultation. My

1630
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:46,060
greater fear is not with

1631
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:49,060
Council. My greater fear is with

1632
01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:50,060
the methodology of the

1633
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:51,060
consultation. That's the one I'm

1634
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:52,060
very concerned about. I want to

1635
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:54,060
make sure we get a true

1636
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:55,060
expression of public opinion, an

1637
01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:56,060
accurate reflection of what

1638
01:21:56,060 --> 01:22:00,020
people want. What we get is a

1639
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:02,020
result -- will reflect that

1640
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:03,020
public. If we get that

1641
01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:04,020
accurately, we can do the right

1642
01:22:04,020 --> 01:22:06,020
thing and people will be happy.

1643
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:07,020
I'm hoping.

1644
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:09,020
>> There will be a development,

1645
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,020
most likely, on my street? I

1646
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:11,020
don't know how I will be

1647
01:22:11,020 --> 01:22:13,020
consulted. Are they calling me,

1648
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:16,020
sending me a letter, email?

1649
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:19,020
>> We are not there yet. I am

1650
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:20,020
hoping you will have a chance to

1651
01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:24,020
express your will. The idea is

1652
01:22:24,020 --> 01:22:26,020
to be transparent and get as

1653
01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:27,020
much -- as many people as

1654
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:28,020
possible to get involved in the

1655
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:31,020
process. The irony of all this

1656
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:32,020
as we did a public consultation

1657
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:33,020
work. You heard me talking about

1658
01:22:33,020 --> 01:22:35,020
it in the village tonight, but

1659
01:22:35,020 --> 01:22:36,020
one way to weigh issue in the

1660
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:40,020
village. We put it out there to

1661
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:41,020
everybody. Not everybody showed

1662
01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:42,020
up. They got all upset. Now we

1663
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:45,020
are we doing it because people

1664
01:22:45,020 --> 01:22:47,020
didn't seize the opportunity.

1665
01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:49,020
It's like voting, voter turnout.

1666
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:51,020
If you are given an opportunity

1667
01:22:51,020 --> 01:22:52,020
to express your democratic

1668
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:55,020
right, please do so. When we go

1669
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:59,020
to consultation on the RCI or on

1670
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:01,080
your vision of citizens as the

1671
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,080
future of Pointe-Claire, please

1672
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:03,080
express yourself. I urge you. I

1673
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,080
beg you to do so.

1674
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:10,080
>> My second question. We pay a

1675
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,080
lot of city taxes. Sometimes, I

1676
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,080
find some of the expenses have

1677
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,080
been questionable. Like, say,

1678
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,080
for example, I think we are

1679
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,080
still a modest city, about

1680
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,080
30,000 citizens. For example,

1681
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,080
item 30.08, with a contract.

1682
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,080
This is one example. Every month

1683
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:34,080
I see stuff. 132,004 services. I

1684
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,080
don't even know what that

1685
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:43,080
entails. There was an award

1686
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,080
presentation for public works

1687
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,080
staff. There was no professional

1688
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,080
photographer. This is a lot of

1689
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,080
money. A couple months ago,

1690
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,080
there was around $700,000 for a

1691
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,080
computer program. In the past,

1692
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,040
I've seen many attributed for

1693
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,040
Pickleball tables. I've seen

1694
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,040
parks and tables. A little bit

1695
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,040
of cement, or grant I, I'm not

1696
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,040
sure. How is anybody playing on

1697
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,040
them? I find some of these

1698
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,040
expenses are questionable. Why

1699
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,040
are we paying $132,000 for

1700
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,040
photography?

1701
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,040
>> We go through that exercise.

1702
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,040
We did a very recently, all of

1703
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:27,040
us. Our director of finance

1704
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,040
brought up a bunch of items that

1705
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,040
said, if you had to draw the

1706
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,040
line because of recent increase

1707
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,040
of property values, where would

1708
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,040
we draw the line? It's hard.

1709
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,040
Citizens like a lot of these

1710
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,040
services. Some of these they

1711
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,040
received. Those pingpong tables

1712
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,040
are very appreciated by people.

1713
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,040
Where do we draw the line? It's

1714
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,040
a very good question. It's what

1715
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,040
we are supposed to do, to try to

1716
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,040
balance the books and make sure

1717
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,040
we buy things worth the money --

1718
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,040
if citizens want services and

1719
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,040
don't want them diminished, we

1720
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,000
keep them. If they are too

1721
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,000
expensive, we reduced them.

1722
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,000
That's a tough call. It's a

1723
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,000
really tough call. We brought

1724
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,000
through the exercise. We had a

1725
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,000
pretty serious one last weekend.

1726
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,000
We went through the equations,

1727
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,000
that scenarios of what we would

1728
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,000
cut if we had to. If there were

1729
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,000
things we would reduce.

1730
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,000
>> Sorry to interrupt. $132,000

1731
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:26,000
for a photographer. The printing

1732
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,000
is even on top of that.

1733
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,000
>> I don't know the specifics of

1734
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,000
that. Mister Seguin, do you have

1735
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,000
any?

1736
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,000
>> Yes, you are correct. It's a

1737
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,000
take all the pictures we use for

1738
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,000
all the various brochures. All

1739
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,000
the publications that the City

1740
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,000
makes during the year. That's an

1741
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,000
annual contract that we give out

1742
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:54,000
on an annual basis.

1743
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:54,000
>> It warrants this amount of

1744
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,000
money?

1745
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,060
>> We go and make a call for

1746
01:26:00,060 --> 01:26:01,060
tender and that's the lowest

1747
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:05,060
bidder that won the contract.

1748
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:06,060
>> Okay.

1749
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:08,060
>> That's generally how it's

1750
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:10,060
done. The irony is that the

1751
01:26:10,060 --> 01:26:11,060
lowest bidder isn't always the

1752
01:26:11,060 --> 01:26:12,060
best way to go. It's a tough

1753
01:26:12,060 --> 01:26:15,060
call. It's a really hard

1754
01:26:15,060 --> 01:26:16,060
decision making process.

1755
01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:17,060
>> We can't give some staff a

1756
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:21,060
professional camera?

1757
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:23,060
>> Who knows what's being asked

1758
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:24,060
and what the photographers --

1759
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:26,060
who knows what their job

1760
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:27,060
requires, what the needs are,

1761
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,060
what they are doing. We don't

1762
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:32,060
know that specifically. We can't

1763
01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:33,060
denigrate them if we don't know

1764
01:26:33,060 --> 01:26:34,060
--

1765
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:36,060
>> Don't get me wrong. I'm not

1766
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:38,060
denigrating anybody. I am saying

1767
01:26:38,060 --> 01:26:39,060
in the amount of expense, these

1768
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:41,060
are just some expenses. Every

1769
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:43,060
month, I see something else.

1770
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:46,060
Couple months ago, 700,000 for

1771
01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:48,060
computer programs or software.

1772
01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:50,060
Sometimes just the expenses that

1773
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:53,060
are way up there.

1774
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:57,060
>> That is your right. If we

1775
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:58,060
overspend or you feel we are

1776
01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:00,020
overspending, let us know.

1777
01:27:00,020 --> 01:27:01,020
>> I will come every month and

1778
01:27:01,020 --> 01:27:03,020
--

1779
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:05,020
>> You can bring them up. That's

1780
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:06,020
for sure. That's what we are

1781
01:27:06,020 --> 01:27:07,020
here for.

1782
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:08,020
>> Thank you.

1783
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:11,020
>> Thank you.

1784
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:30,020
- Bonjour, mon nom, c'est

1785
01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:33,020
Suzanne Wilson. Moi, je me pose

1786
01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:37,020
la question: le Dean de

1787
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:40,020
filtration d'eau, ça fait partie

1788
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:42,020
de l'agglomération de Montréal.

1789
01:27:42,020 --> 01:27:44,020
Alors c'est qui qui prend la

1790
01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:46,020
décision de mettre du fluor dans

1791
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:47,020
l'eau de Pointe-Claire?

1792
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:49,020
- C'est l'agglomération qui

1793
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:50,020
décide ça.

1794
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:51,020
- L'agglomération de quelle

1795
01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:52,020
ville?

1796
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:53,020
- De Montréal.

1797
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:54,020
- De Montréal?

1798
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:55,020
- C'est l'agglomération de

1799
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:56,020
Montréal qui décide ce qui se

1800
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:57,020
passe avec l'eau.

1801
01:27:57,020 --> 01:28:00,080
- Donc, vous vous n'avez pas

1802
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,080
affaire à l'eau du tout quand on

1803
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,080
parle?

1804
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,080
- Pas vraiment, c'est situé sur

1805
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,080
notre, dans notre ville, mais la

1806
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,080
responsabilité pour l'eau, c'est

1807
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,080
l'agglomération de Montréal.

1808
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,080
- Est-ce qu'on paie des taxes,

1809
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080
nos, pour l'eau fluorée dans nos

1810
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,080
taxes?

1811
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,080
- Bonne question. Monsieur

1812
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,080
Séguin, est-ce que...

1813
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,080
- Tous les coûts concernant la

1814
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,080
distribution de l'eau est payée

1815
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,080
par une quote-part que l'on paie

1816
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,080
à l'agglomération de Montréal.

1817
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,080
- Donc on paye pour?

1818
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,080
- Oui.

1819
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,080
- O.K.. Bien moi, je n'en veux

1820
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,080
pas. Ça donne le cancer de la

1821
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,080
vessie. Moi, j'ai un proche

1822
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,080
parent qui est décédé de ça, il

1823
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,080
a bu de l'eau de 1954 à 1990 est

1824
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,080
déjà à ce moment-là, il disait

1825
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,080
que c'était une possibilité que

1826
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,080
l'eau fluorée donnait le cancer

1827
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,080
de la vessie. Alors moi, je vis

1828
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,080
à Pointe-Claire depuis plusieurs

1829
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,080
années. Ça prend 30 ans pour

1830
01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:00,040
avoir des problèmes? Alors moi,

1831
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,040
je suis dans la controverse, il

1832
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
y a une controverse là-dessus et

1833
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,040
on m'oblige à boire cette

1834
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,040
eau-là! C'est contre la

1835
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,040
démocratie. Qu'est-ce que je

1836
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:13,040
peux faire pour ça?

1837
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,040
- Il faut parler votre... de

1838
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,040
votre décision à tout le monde,

1839
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,040
il faut publier votre opinion.

1840
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,040
- Mais c'est pas mon opinion,

1841
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,040
c'est scientifique.

1842
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,040
(inaudible)

1843
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,040
- Ça change le monde, le monde

1844
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,040
change comme ça.

1845
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,040
- Mais c'est urgent!

1846
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,040
- O.K..

1847
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,040
- On va mourir!

1848
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:33,040
- Oui.

1849
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,040
- On va avoir plein de

1850
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,040
problèmes! Moi, je n'ose plus

1851
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,040
boire de l'eau, mais je n'ai pas

1852
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,040
le choix, là! Je n'ai pas le

1853
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,040
choix de cuire des aliments. Je

1854
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,040
ne suis Paris a craqué à tout

1855
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,040
laver mes aliments dans l'eau...

1856
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,040
en tout cas...

1857
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,040
- Je suis d'accord, il y a

1858
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,040
beaucoup de choses dans notre

1859
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,040
vie qui sont dangereuses pour

1860
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,040
nous: le soleil est dangereux,

1861
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,040
l'alcool est dangereux aussi, il

1862
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,040
y a des choses dans notre vie...

1863
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,040
oui, je comprends, Madame.

1864
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
>> Mr.? Thomas may just add that

1865
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,000
it is not only a Pointe-Claire

1866
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,000
decision. That water is also

1867
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,000
used by other municipalities on

1868
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,000
the West Island. Such as

1869
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,000
Beaconsfield, I believe,

1870
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,000
Dollard, Kirkland. They'll have

1871
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,000
a say as.

1872
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,000
>> And Dorval as. Well hi, my

1873
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,000
name is Angela Clark. I'm also

1874
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,000
here to talk about the

1875
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,000
fluoridation of our water.

1876
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,000
Mister Mayor, you did mention

1877
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,000
that you are not an expert. But

1878
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,000
the head of preventative

1879
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,000
dentistry at the head of

1880
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,000
Toronto, along with the Canadian

1881
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,000
association of physicians for

1882
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,000
the environment, oppose water

1883
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,000
fluoridation. It is true. I was

1884
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,000
disappointed. When Mr. -- came

1885
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
up to the microphone, he's been

1886
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,000
working his butt off on this. He

1887
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,000
really has. Right away, you kind

1888
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,000
of -- I felt bullied him a

1889
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,060
little bit. Keep it -- you've

1890
01:31:01,060 --> 01:31:02,060
already mentioned what you had

1891
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:03,060
to. Say right away, you probably

1892
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:04,060
forgot what half of what he

1893
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:09,060
wanted to say. Also, I have here

1894
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:15,060
the technical data sheet from --

1895
01:31:15,060 --> 01:31:17,060
2021, where it says exactly what

1896
01:31:17,060 --> 01:31:19,060
you doubted, that there is heavy

1897
01:31:19,060 --> 01:31:22,060
metal, silver and lead in the

1898
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:27,060
fluoridated water. There is a

1899
01:31:28,060 --> 01:31:29,060
study from jam, us somewhere

1900
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:33,060
here, that shows the association

1901
01:31:33,060 --> 01:31:34,060
between maternal fluoride

1902
01:31:34,060 --> 01:31:36,060
exposure during pregnancy and IQ

1903
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:39,060
scores in offspring and in

1904
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:43,060
Canada. They tested -- from six

1905
01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:45,060
different hospitals across

1906
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:48,060
Canada. There was a serious

1907
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:51,060
deficit and IQ from the mothers

1908
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:53,060
who drink tap water that was

1909
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:56,060
Florida. My question is why are

1910
01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:59,060
we still paying for fluoridated

1911
01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:02,020
water when we know we have

1912
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:03,020
fluoridated toothpaste. We know

1913
01:32:03,020 --> 01:32:04,020
how to take care of our teeth

1914
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:06,020
and our children's teeth now.

1915
01:32:06,020 --> 01:32:10,020
That's my first question. Also,

1916
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:15,020
Mr. Cohen. You are my counts. In

1917
01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:19,020
your mandate statement, you said

1918
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:21,020
I want to help bring municipal

1919
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,020
government closer to the

1920
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:25,020
community. To encourage the

1921
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:27,020
committees deep involvement in

1922
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:30,020
their own municipal government.

1923
01:32:30,020 --> 01:32:33,020
I feel, sometimes, that the

1924
01:32:33,020 --> 01:32:36,020
citizens may be disrespected. I

1925
01:32:36,020 --> 01:32:40,020
know, again, like, Mr. quell oh

1926
01:32:41,020 --> 01:32:44,020
and knocked on thousands of

1927
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:46,020
doors. I've never met you. I've

1928
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:49,020
never seen you at my door or

1929
01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:51,020
anyone helping you with your

1930
01:32:51,020 --> 01:32:54,020
campaign. But I saw him. His

1931
01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:57,020
passion for this made me

1932
01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:58,020
interested in municipal

1933
01:32:58,020 --> 01:33:00,080
government. I think maybe you

1934
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,080
could write him a letter

1935
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,080
thanking him for doing what you

1936
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,080
said that you want.

1937
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,080
>> May I respond?

1938
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,080
>> I actually went with him

1939
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,080
about a year ago, accompanied

1940
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,080
him as he was gathering

1941
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,080
signatures. I wanted to see how

1942
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,080
he was going about it. I wanted

1943
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,080
to see him -- how he's

1944
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,080
interacting with citizens. I

1945
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,080
wanted to get a sense for when

1946
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:22,080
citizens were signing the

1947
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,080
petition, where they signing it

1948
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,080
knowingly. I satisfied myself of

1949
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:33,080
the and gentlemen integrity and

1950
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,080
the honesty of his approach.

1951
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,080
I've been giving a lot of advice

1952
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:40,080
on how to go about the process

1953
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,080
of direct democracy. I'm sorry I

1954
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,080
never met you. I have knocked on

1955
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,080
a lot of doors in our district.

1956
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,080
Maybe I missed yours or you

1957
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,080
weren't in when I knocked.

1958
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,080
>> Okay. I do appreciate that

1959
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,080
very much. I met him when I was

1960
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,080
a reporter. I am still a

1961
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,080
reporter. I was working with the

1962
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,040
suburban. I am involved in

1963
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:06,040
federal politics. I help with

1964
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,040
Mr. Francis campaign for two

1965
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,040
time. I'm going to be more

1966
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:14,040
involved in municipal. I'm

1967
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,040
asking my second question. Will

1968
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,040
you please put this to a vote

1969
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,040
and please hear our voices? If

1970
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,040
you want us involved in our

1971
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,040
community, it's important our

1972
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,040
questions are respected. Thank.

1973
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,040
You

1974
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,040
>> If I --

1975
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,040
[Applause]

1976
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:35,040
In response to bullying Mr.

1977
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,040
Kahlo, if you followed our

1978
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,040
previous council meetings, I've

1979
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,040
been criticized for letting him

1980
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,040
go on for a long period of time.

1981
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,040
I felt that given my emission

1982
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,040
last time, I thought I would

1983
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,040
level out the playing field a

1984
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:57,040
bit. His last time at the

1985
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,040
microphone we, he did have a

1986
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,000
very, very fair say.

1987
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,000
>> I apologize for that, then.

1988
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,000
>> I try not to bully. I'm sorry

1989
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,000
if it seemed that way.

1990
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,000
>> I apologize. Maybe that

1991
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,000
wasn't the right word to use. I

1992
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,000
feel there's a division and a

1993
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,000
pressure between Council and its

1994
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:19,000
citizens. I hope maybe I can

1995
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,000
play a small part in -- if you

1996
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,000
take volunteers. Anyway, we will

1997
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,000
talk about that and the time.

1998
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,000
Thank you for your time.

1999
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,000
>> Thanks very much.

2000
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,000
>> Good evening ladies and

2001
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,000
gentlemen. My name is --

2002
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,000
district seven. I learned in

2003
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:57,000
business University, a

2004
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:04,060
relationship built on trust,

2005
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:09,060
honesty and respect. Honesty,

2006
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:13,060
trust, and respect. That's any

2007
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:14,060
business, a relationship built

2008
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:18,060
in that will be a success. Why

2009
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:22,060
I'm here? I want my wife when --

2010
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:25,060
we have a duty. When we choose

2011
01:36:25,060 --> 01:36:26,060
to come live in Pointe-Claire 30

2012
01:36:26,060 --> 01:36:31,060
years ago, it was my wife who

2013
01:36:32,060 --> 01:36:35,060
choose it for a green

2014
01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:36,060
environment, good neighbourhood,

2015
01:36:36,060 --> 01:36:41,060
and safe, good school. Good

2016
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:45,060
daycare. Good library. Good

2017
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:50,060
sport. Facility. That's why we

2018
01:36:51,060 --> 01:36:52,060
chose to come here and raise for

2019
01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:56,060
kids. They all graduated

2020
01:36:57,060 --> 01:37:02,020
engineer and they success. Not

2021
01:37:02,020 --> 01:37:03,020
only good parents to take care

2022
01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:06,020
of them. No. Because they are

2023
01:37:06,020 --> 01:37:08,020
born and they grow up in

2024
01:37:08,020 --> 01:37:10,020
Pointe-Claire. That's my duty.

2025
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:11,020
Me and my wife will come here to

2026
01:37:11,020 --> 01:37:16,020
always defend the citizen of

2027
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:17,020
Pointe-Claire and the future

2028
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:20,020
citizen. That's what your kids

2029
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:24,020
and grandkids. Please, don't be

2030
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:30,020
divided. The United. To help the

2031
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:32,020
citizen of Pointe-Claire and the

2032
01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:37,020
future. When I drive through

2033
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:41,020
Hymus, the west of St. John,

2034
01:37:41,020 --> 01:37:43,020
it's almost like a downtown now.

2035
01:37:43,020 --> 01:37:46,020
I don't know how people -- we

2036
01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:51,020
elect in 2018 mayor ran for

2037
01:37:54,020 --> 01:37:59,020
citizens first. Six of you, you

2038
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,080
with him, accept every decision

2039
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,080
he's doing it.

2040
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,080
>> Point of order, please. That

2041
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,080
is incorrect. Thank you.

2042
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:17,080
>> So, please. Hi Miss was --

2043
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:21,080
did anybody try to drive there?

2044
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,080
The same building what all that

2045
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,080
goes in in your street or

2046
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,080
district, how are you going to

2047
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,080
feel? Are you going to feel

2048
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:34,080
well? Please! Try to reverse old

2049
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,080
bad decision that happened in

2050
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,080
the last four years. Why are you

2051
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:46,080
giving special treatment for

2052
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,080
contractor or developer. Why?

2053
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,080
>> Point of order. That is

2054
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,080
incorrect. It is also

2055
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,080
denigrating.

2056
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,040
>> What is the question? There

2057
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,040
is an answer to this.

2058
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:05,040
>> My question for this city

2059
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,040
council from the previous

2060
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,040
administration, are you going to

2061
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,040
try to help and stop the high

2062
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:15,040
rise buildings and condo?

2063
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,040
>> Sir. If I could just say, I'm

2064
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,040
not a huge fan of Hymus West

2065
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,040
either. That happened long

2066
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,040
before the past administration.

2067
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
Hymus West was started a long,

2068
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,040
long time ago. I concur with

2069
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,040
your decision. It was before the

2070
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,040
last administration that the

2071
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,040
project was approved and

2072
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,040
started.

2073
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,040
>> Can we stop it? Everybody is

2074
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:40,040
just blaming the one before.

2075
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,040
That's not my question. Why?

2076
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,040
>> It's a cumulative process. We

2077
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,040
all learn and evolve and come

2078
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:48,040
with different solutions. You

2079
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:52,040
know, I think Hymus West is an

2080
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,040
example of maybe where we don't

2081
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,040
want to head. It was decided

2082
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,040
quite a while ago, that project

2083
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,000
was approved. If they start

2084
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:02,000
happening --

2085
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,000
>> I understand.

2086
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,000
>> We are responsible for the

2087
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:06,000
ones happening now.

2088
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,000
>> I understand. We have to stop

2089
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,000
it.

2090
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,000
>> We are trying. We are trying.

2091
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:16,000
>> Some green space -- the green

2092
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,000
space already all put it in

2093
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,000
white.

2094
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,000
>> In fairness, and there is an

2095
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,000
interim control measure on the

2096
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,000
Fairview forest. There has been

2097
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:27,000
some work done to do exactly

2098
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,000
what you are suggesting. We are

2099
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,000
all part of that.

2100
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,000
>> It's our duty for the city,

2101
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,000
for our kids and future.

2102
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,000
>> Clearly, the actions show

2103
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,000
that maybe that's shared. Maybe

2104
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,000
that's where we are headed going

2105
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,000
forward.

2106
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,000
>> City Council, they going to

2107
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,000
correct all that?

2108
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,000
>> We are going to do our best,

2109
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,000
I hope.

2110
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,000
>> Please!

2111
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,000
>> Sort of what we are trying to

2112
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,000
do, I think. We are about to

2113
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,060
come out with an urban plan.

2114
01:41:01,060 --> 01:41:05,060
>> My teacher used to tell us,

2115
01:41:05,060 --> 01:41:06,060
the animal, they used to control

2116
01:41:06,060 --> 01:41:10,060
it, you have to fight it. But

2117
01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:12,060
humans, they get tied by what

2118
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:14,060
they say and what they do.

2119
01:41:14,060 --> 01:41:16,060
That's how they get respect and

2120
01:41:16,060 --> 01:41:17,060
how they get tied by what they

2121
01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:20,060
say and they do. Please, God

2122
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:22,060
bless you. Do the right thing.

2123
01:41:22,060 --> 01:41:25,060
>> Thank you. I appreciate that.

2124
01:41:25,060 --> 01:41:30,060
We shall. We will try.

2125
01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:35,060
Yeah.

2126
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:39,060
>> I don't want to mess around.

2127
01:41:39,060 --> 01:41:44,060
Perfect. My question is with

2128
01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:47,060
regards to 10.11.

2129
01:41:47,060 --> 01:41:49,060
>> Can you state your name for

2130
01:41:49,060 --> 01:41:50,060
the minutes, first?

2131
01:41:50,060 --> 01:41:51,060
>> It's Thomas shorts from

2132
01:41:51,060 --> 01:41:56,060
period.

2133
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:59,060
>> Excuse me. You've been

2134
01:41:59,060 --> 01:42:00,020
entitled to speak when it comes

2135
01:42:00,020 --> 01:42:01,020
up. Minor exemption. You are

2136
01:42:01,020 --> 01:42:04,020
entitled to speak.

2137
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:05,020
>> I will use of this time,

2138
01:42:05,020 --> 01:42:09,020
then. My question is, if this

2139
01:42:09,020 --> 01:42:12,020
plant is online, so that way I

2140
01:42:12,020 --> 01:42:15,020
can see what the access would

2141
01:42:15,020 --> 01:42:19,020
look like. 15 metres is almost

2142
01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:21,020
50 feet. That's really wide for

2143
01:42:21,020 --> 01:42:23,020
a driveway. I just wanted to

2144
01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:26,020
know, if I look at the plans

2145
01:42:26,020 --> 01:42:27,020
online -- I don't know if these

2146
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:29,020
plans are online, I just want to

2147
01:42:29,020 --> 01:42:30,020
see what it looks like for the

2148
01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:34,020
house. That's my back neighbour.

2149
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:37,020
>> Okay. Councillor Stork, would

2150
01:42:37,020 --> 01:42:38,020
you like to respond?

2151
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:40,020
>> If I'm not mistaken, Kelly

2152
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:44,020
would you like to reply? If I'm

2153
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:46,020
not mistaken, what happens

2154
01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:48,020
sometimes, again, I'm pretty

2155
01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:50,020
sure, not 100 percent, is that

2156
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:53,020
sometimes it's the total with.

2157
01:42:53,020 --> 01:42:54,020
Maybe something where it starts

2158
01:42:54,020 --> 01:42:56,020
off at 20 feet -- it turns out

2159
01:42:56,020 --> 01:42:57,020
for some reason there is a

2160
01:42:57,020 --> 01:43:00,080
collapse or something. Total

2161
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,080
with might be 50 metres. The

2162
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,080
actual entrance itself is a

2163
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,080
standard 20 feet, 1.6 metres. If

2164
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,080
I come out and bulge out around

2165
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,080
the house, there will be full

2166
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:14,080
distance.

2167
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,080
>> This one says access.

2168
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,080
>> Access land, yeah. That's

2169
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,080
probably the access --

2170
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,080
>> I'm going to add, I believe

2171
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,080
this is the house that the

2172
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,080
driveway was already in

2173
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:27,080
existence. They are not creating

2174
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,080
it. They're trying to get that

2175
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,080
minor exemption to approve what

2176
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:31,080
was in existence before they

2177
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,080
bought the house. At one point,

2178
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,080
higher up, near the house, it is

2179
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,080
widening. But at the base where

2180
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,080
it goes out onto the street,

2181
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,080
it's less wide. It also already

2182
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,080
exists. They are asking to do

2183
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,080
it. They are just trying to get

2184
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,080
it regulated. In addition, there

2185
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:49,080
was a recommendation from

2186
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,080
Planning Advisory to add a few

2187
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,080
extra trees on the property

2188
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,080
because there is additional

2189
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,080
asphalt for the -- it's possible

2190
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,040
to add bushes or trees to

2191
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,040
offset, a net positive green

2192
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,040
gain. That's the net positive

2193
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:06,040
environment.

2194
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,040
>> So, then, this would mean

2195
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,040
that after this was spoken at

2196
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:14,040
Council, it would be passed?

2197
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,040
>> They are asking us to approve

2198
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,040
what -- we will vote on that

2199
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,040
tonight. If we agree, or if we

2200
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,040
are going to ask them to remove

2201
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,040
their pathway.

2202
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,040
>> Right. Okay. Then I would be

2203
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,040
able to have seen what that

2204
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,040
looks like before.

2205
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:28,040
>> We are not allowed to give

2206
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,040
you plans of peoples individual

2207
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:31,040
homes. The house exists. You can

2208
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,040
drive by the house.

2209
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,040
>> I'm curious. I got a letter

2210
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,040
in the mail saying this is

2211
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,040
happening. I was like, oh, okay.

2212
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:39,040
I don't even know.

2213
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,040
>> You can drive by. But also,

2214
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,040
if there is people's personal

2215
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,040
plans, we aren't legally allowed

2216
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,040
to put those on for people to

2217
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,040
evaluate.

2218
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:47,040
>> This means this already

2219
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,040
exists?

2220
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,040
>> Yes. It already exists. They

2221
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,040
are not creating it.

2222
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:53,040
>> Cool. That's what I wanted to

2223
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:54,040
note. Thank you.

2224
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:57,040
>> There is a certain amount of

2225
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:58,040
minor exemptions that we don't

2226
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,000
state them as maybe we should

2227
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,000
state them in the existing

2228
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,000
conditions rectified. If you

2229
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,000
sell your house or something of

2230
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,000
that nature, if you are in

2231
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,000
violation of your purchase,

2232
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:09,000
these are people who discovered

2233
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,000
something wrong when the house

2234
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,000
was built ten, 20, 30 years ago.

2235
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,000
Now they want to rectify the

2236
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,000
situation.

2237
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,000
>> Cool. Thank you.

2238
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,000
>> Yeah. Hi. My name is David

2239
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:26,000
Friedman. My question is about

2240
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:34,000
what can the City do -- and it's

2241
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,000
a safety question, maybe of

2242
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:41,000
interest to you Councillor Stork

2243
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,000
-- about pedestrian crossings.

2244
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,000
Because it's been my

2245
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:51,000
observation, and many others on

2246
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,000
Facebook, on the Facebook news

2247
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,000
group, news and discussion

2248
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,060
group, that our pedestrian

2249
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:04,060
crossings are not being

2250
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:05,060
recognized by drivers and not

2251
01:46:05,060 --> 01:46:10,060
being respected. The other day,

2252
01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:16,060
I was -- I stopped at a

2253
01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:18,060
pedestrian crossing on lakeshore

2254
01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:23,060
road, I'm going to Edgewater

2255
01:46:26,060 --> 01:46:28,060
park to let a little girl and

2256
01:46:28,060 --> 01:46:31,060
her mother across the street. At

2257
01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:35,060
least four cars passed the other

2258
01:46:35,060 --> 01:46:40,060
way. Only when I started honking

2259
01:46:40,060 --> 01:46:45,060
my horn did cars stop. There

2260
01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:51,060
seems to be a grave

2261
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:54,060
misunderstanding about what one

2262
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:58,060
does at a pedestrian crossing.

2263
01:46:58,060 --> 01:47:01,020
What I was told when I went to

2264
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:02,020
driving school was, you are

2265
01:47:02,020 --> 01:47:06,020
supposed to slow down. You're

2266
01:47:06,020 --> 01:47:09,020
always to slow down when

2267
01:47:09,020 --> 01:47:10,020
approaching a pedestrian

2268
01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:14,020
crossing. And then, if a

2269
01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:15,020
pedestrian is there, you give

2270
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:17,020
the right of way to the

2271
01:47:17,020 --> 01:47:18,020
pedestrian. Otherwise, you roll

2272
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:20,020
through. But no one is slowing

2273
01:47:20,020 --> 01:47:24,020
down. My question is, shouldn't

2274
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:30,020
we be replacing these pedestrian

2275
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:35,020
cross walks with stop lines and

2276
01:47:35,020 --> 01:47:40,020
science? I think this is what

2277
01:47:41,020 --> 01:47:44,020
should be done at that

2278
01:47:44,020 --> 01:47:49,020
particular one. I don't think we

2279
01:47:50,020 --> 01:47:55,020
want to get in a situation where

2280
01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:58,020
in some areas I think it's okay

2281
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:03,080
to have lights and buttons for

2282
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,080
pedestrians to push. But if you

2283
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:10,080
are on a bike or if you are a

2284
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:12,080
little kid crossing a crosswalk

2285
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,080
to go to school or go to play in

2286
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:19,080
a park, I don't think we should

2287
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,080
expect everyone to go hit a

2288
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,080
light and therefore the onus is

2289
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,080
being placed on the pedestrian.

2290
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,080
It's the driver of the cars that

2291
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,080
get licenses.

2292
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,080
>> And they are the ones that

2293
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,080
are supposed to be respecting

2294
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,080
the rules of the road and

2295
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,080
watching the traffic all the

2296
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:50,080
time. Not the little kids.

2297
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,080
>> If I'm going to respond,

2298
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,080
hopefully that's okay, because

2299
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,080
he is taken my spot on the

2300
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,080
traffic committee, but for my

2301
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:59,080
eight years first to years of as

2302
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,040
a councillors on the traffic

2303
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,040
committee, and this is one of

2304
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:05,040
the number one complaints that

2305
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,040
we have received for safety

2306
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,040
issues. We have thrown the whole

2307
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:14,040
kitchen sink at this problem. We

2308
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,040
have done different reminders of

2309
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,040
how to drive properly in our

2310
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,040
newsletters and those of us who

2311
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,040
delivered personal newsletters

2312
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,040
every year, reminders, here's

2313
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,040
how to drive through a

2314
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,040
roundabout properly, respect

2315
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:28,040
pedestrians, monitor speeding,

2316
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:29,040
if you have noticed our

2317
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,040
campaigns for the signs we tried

2318
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,040
the no speeding campaign signs.

2319
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,040
Stop at stop signs signs. We

2320
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,040
have discussed it at length and

2321
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,040
every costs council meeting.

2322
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,040
When you leave this room, please

2323
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,040
drive properly, please stop and

2324
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,040
stop signs, drive the speed

2325
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,040
limit, and please respect

2326
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,040
pedestrians. Because it all

2327
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,040
starts with each of us. I

2328
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,040
honestly think it's going to

2329
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:52,040
need a Québec driving culture

2330
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,040
change and we need to start with

2331
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,040
going into the schools. The

2332
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:56,040
police have started it and

2333
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,040
teaching the new young drivers

2334
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:02,000
to drive properly. You go to

2335
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,000
Alberta or Nova Scotia or in the

2336
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,000
States, they stop on your five

2337
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,000
you'd way from that crosswalk.

2338
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:13,000
We've tried different things. To

2339
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,000
try to degrees the speed in the

2340
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,000
middle of the, when the summer

2341
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:23,000
months are up. But I do want to

2342
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:24,000
caution that in the literature

2343
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,000
this adding a stop sign, one,

2344
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,000
it's not why you add a stop sign

2345
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,000
is to just to protect across

2346
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,000
work, because it gives a false

2347
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,000
sense of security. The perfect

2348
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,000
example is on King and St.

2349
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,000
Louis, there's a stop sign

2350
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:39,000
there, nobody respects it. Oh a

2351
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,000
stop sign, I can walk on this

2352
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:42,000
car crosswalk. -- I

2353
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,000
>> Think people respect car stop

2354
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,000
signs were the grass walks.

2355
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,000
>> On traffic committee they do

2356
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:48,000
not. I'm telling you what we

2357
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,000
have done. But you know what,

2358
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:51,000
it's really beyond this council

2359
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,000
to say, because we don't have a

2360
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,000
magic wand to change how

2361
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,000
everyone drives. I will say

2362
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:57,000
again, when you drive home

2363
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,000
tonight, stop at sob signs,

2364
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,060
drive slow, respect pedestrians,

2365
01:51:02,060 --> 01:51:04,060
and we're gonna educate the

2366
01:51:04,060 --> 01:51:05,060
younger generation. It's not

2367
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:07,060
that we don't care. We've put

2368
01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:08,060
everything out there. If you

2369
01:51:08,060 --> 01:51:09,060
have any constructive ideas of

2370
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:12,060
how we can do, it absolutely.

2371
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:13,060
Let us know.

2372
01:51:13,060 --> 01:51:16,060
>> How about -- development in

2373
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:17,060
Pointe-Claire?

2374
01:51:17,060 --> 01:51:20,060
>> No it's not separate. It's

2375
01:51:20,060 --> 01:51:22,060
completely related. It's related

2376
01:51:22,060 --> 01:51:25,060
to the question, if you add

2377
01:51:25,060 --> 01:51:26,060
density --

2378
01:51:26,060 --> 01:51:27,060
>> A security question, thank.

2379
01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:28,060
You

2380
01:51:28,060 --> 01:51:32,060
>> If you add density and you're

2381
01:51:32,060 --> 01:51:33,060
adding population to the city

2382
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:36,060
and our streets become busier,

2383
01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:38,060
we, Council can't throw its

2384
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:41,060
hands in the air and say, this

2385
01:51:41,060 --> 01:51:43,060
is Québec's problem.

2386
01:51:43,060 --> 01:51:44,060
>> I'm sorry, not throwing my

2387
01:51:44,060 --> 01:51:46,060
hands in the air, just

2388
01:51:46,060 --> 01:51:48,060
explaining to you and, you're

2389
01:51:48,060 --> 01:51:50,060
not being very respectful to

2390
01:51:50,060 --> 01:51:51,060
anything I've said.

2391
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:53,060
>> Is there another question, or

2392
01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:55,060
do you have a question in there?

2393
01:51:55,060 --> 01:51:57,060
>> Yes. There is another

2394
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:01,020
question. The other question is,

2395
01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:03,020
isn't the increasing the

2396
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:06,020
population of Pointe-Claire at

2397
01:52:06,020 --> 01:52:08,020
the rate that we are increasing

2398
01:52:08,020 --> 01:52:12,020
it by, tied to this problem that

2399
01:52:12,020 --> 01:52:15,020
we are having with but becoming

2400
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:24,020
unsafe in this city for

2401
01:52:24,020 --> 01:52:28,020
pedestrians to walk around. I am

2402
01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:32,020
wondering, can Council do

2403
01:52:32,020 --> 01:52:37,020
anything to increase ticketing,

2404
01:52:38,020 --> 01:52:43,020
and what level of tickets are

2405
01:52:44,020 --> 01:52:48,020
fines going up, or is less

2406
01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:51,020
ticketing going on?

2407
01:52:51,020 --> 01:52:54,020
>> Look, it's not a question of,

2408
01:52:54,020 --> 01:52:56,020
the police are always. There

2409
01:52:56,020 --> 01:52:58,020
I've had a one night crusade on

2410
01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:01,080
car safety for 23 years now. A

2411
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,080
stop sign in from a house gets

2412
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:07,080
blown off all the time. This is

2413
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:08,080
something that is going on

2414
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,080
everywhere. My personal solution

2415
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:16,080
for a lot of this is, for

2416
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:17,080
exactly what you are speaking

2417
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,080
to. Is public transit and fewer

2418
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:22,080
automobiles on the road. One of

2419
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,080
my issues is that, and that's

2420
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,080
again, the agglomeration, to try

2421
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:31,080
and work better but public

2422
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,080
transit in the city of

2423
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,080
Pointe-Claire so we have fewer

2424
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,080
cars and professionals were

2425
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,080
driving buses and metros who

2426
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,080
aren't rushing to get somewhere

2427
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:44,080
all the time. They're on a

2428
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:45,080
schedule.

2429
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:49,080
>> So there are fewer cars in

2430
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,080
Pointe-Claire as the years go

2431
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,080
by.

2432
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,080
>> We should try to have few

2433
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,080
public cars and more public

2434
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,080
transit.

2435
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,080
>> And more pedestrians are

2436
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,040
stuck because they can't cross

2437
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:03,040
the road to catch the bus. Or

2438
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,040
they can't cross the road on

2439
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,040
their bicycle.

2440
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:09,040
>> Again, that police

2441
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,040
enforcement.

2442
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:14,040
>> Can Council do anything?

2443
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,040
>> We are certainly not without

2444
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,040
saying so all the time on a

2445
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,040
constant basis.

2446
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:21,040
>> Mr. Thomas, may I just add

2447
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:24,040
something? But

2448
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,040
>> Pointe-Claire itself is not

2449
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,040
allowed to issue any tickets for

2450
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,040
moving violations. Only the

2451
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:32,040
SPVM. The best thing to do is

2452
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,040
email or call, not 9-1-1, but

2453
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,040
the police station. When they

2454
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:39,040
receive a complaint they will

2455
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,040
put a police officer at that

2456
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,040
location to ticket. I would

2457
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:45,040
highly recommend doing that

2458
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,040
because we don't have control

2459
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,040
over moving violations, nor do

2460
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:52,040
we control the amount of the

2461
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,040
fines related to moving

2462
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:57,040
violation. That's all SPVM and

2463
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,040
Montréal. It's not

2464
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,000
Pointe-Claire. We do not,

2465
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,000
unfortunately, have that power.

2466
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,000
So in that sense I just wanted

2467
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,000
to clarify that we don't control

2468
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,000
the police here. We have a

2469
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,000
relationship with the police

2470
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,000
department. There are police

2471
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,000
that sit on our traffic

2472
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:18,000
committee. They are aware of

2473
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,000
problematic areas that the

2474
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,000
Council and the mayor make them

2475
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:24,000
aware of. But we ask citizens to

2476
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,000
also be proactive in contracting

2477
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,000
contacting the police station

2478
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,000
and letting them know where the

2479
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,000
problematic areas are. If the

2480
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,000
stop sign in front of your

2481
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,000
house, that speaks to your

2482
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,000
point, as well, that we don't

2483
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:39,000
you stop signs to create safe

2484
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:42,000
crossings. But also, call the

2485
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,000
SPVM and let them know so that

2486
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,000
they can put a police officer

2487
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:49,000
there. And you know, a ticket

2488
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:50,000
only lasts, only effects of

2489
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:51,000
person for three months. That's

2490
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,000
what the data shows. So it will

2491
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,000
be a recurring thing that you

2492
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,000
will have to do. But that's one

2493
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,000
of the most proactive ways that

2494
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:03,060
you can, as if citizen as well,

2495
01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:04,060
implicate yourself with an

2496
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:05,060
issue.

2497
01:56:05,060 --> 01:56:08,060
>> Okay, thank you for your

2498
01:56:08,060 --> 01:56:09,060
suggestions.

2499
01:56:09,060 --> 01:56:10,060
>> We're not going to keep going

2500
01:56:10,060 --> 01:56:12,060
on this. Is there another

2501
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:13,060
debate?

2502
01:56:13,060 --> 01:56:16,060
>> No. Just a final thought.

2503
01:56:16,060 --> 01:56:18,060
From what I understand, you are

2504
01:56:18,060 --> 01:56:21,060
saying that the onus is on

2505
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:24,060
residents and Council --

2506
01:56:24,060 --> 01:56:26,060
>> No, that's not what's being

2507
01:56:26,060 --> 01:56:27,060
said.

2508
01:56:27,060 --> 01:56:29,060
>> That's the eight years of

2509
01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:30,060
work that we've been doing.

2510
01:56:30,060 --> 01:56:31,060
We've already been doing eight

2511
01:56:31,060 --> 01:56:34,060
years of. It's a shared

2512
01:56:34,060 --> 01:56:36,060
responsibility. I explained to

2513
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:37,060
you, to reassure you, of all the

2514
01:56:37,060 --> 01:56:39,060
work that we do and still

2515
01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:41,060
continue to do. But we just

2516
01:56:41,060 --> 01:56:42,060
recognize it's a shared

2517
01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:43,060
responsibility.

2518
01:56:43,060 --> 01:56:47,060
>> The situation is actually

2519
01:56:47,060 --> 01:56:48,060
deteriorating.

2520
01:56:48,060 --> 01:56:50,060
>> Gave you the perfect

2521
01:56:50,060 --> 01:56:52,060
opportunity to go to those areas

2522
01:56:52,060 --> 01:56:53,060
and try to help.

2523
01:56:53,060 --> 01:56:56,060
>> So it's up to me to call the

2524
01:56:56,060 --> 01:56:58,060
police to report an intersection

2525
01:56:58,060 --> 01:57:01,020
that I think is --

2526
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:03,020
>> If the officers call, if we

2527
01:57:03,020 --> 01:57:05,020
are made aware, we call.

2528
01:57:05,020 --> 01:57:07,020
>> We are all alerting the

2529
01:57:07,020 --> 01:57:08,020
police all the time with the

2530
01:57:08,020 --> 01:57:10,020
problem areas in the city. We

2531
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:11,020
are.

2532
01:57:11,020 --> 01:57:13,020
>> The whole city is a problem

2533
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:15,020
area for pedestrians for

2534
01:57:15,020 --> 01:57:19,020
crossing the street. Train

2535
01:57:19,020 --> 01:57:23,020
stations, parks, schools.

2536
01:57:23,020 --> 01:57:24,020
>> Okay, thanks.

2537
01:57:24,020 --> 01:57:27,020
>> Thank you.

2538
01:57:37,020 --> 01:57:39,020
Hello. Good evening ladies and

2539
01:57:39,020 --> 01:57:40,020
gentlemen

2540
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:41,020
>>. This

2541
01:57:41,020 --> 01:57:42,020
>> Is my first attendance.

2542
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:44,020
>> Excuse, me can you first

2543
01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:45,020
state your name?

2544
01:57:45,020 --> 01:57:48,020
>> If you want me to spell it I

2545
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:52,020
will. Adam A R W A when, and

2546
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:55,020
family name C H A T I L a. I'm

2547
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,080
living in Pointe-Claire --

2548
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,080
excuse me, could you refrain

2549
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,080
from discussing what someone

2550
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,080
else is asking a question?

2551
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,080
>> I started building in

2552
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:18,080
Pointe-Claire since four months

2553
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,080
in the Valois area. I think this

2554
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:25,080
is the district three, if I'm

2555
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:29,080
not mistaken. And I was living

2556
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:34,080
30 years ago in Pointe-Claire. I

2557
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,080
worked in Dubai and the Middle

2558
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:38,080
East for 30 years and then I

2559
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,080
came back to Pointe-Claire

2560
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:44,080
because it is a deer area to me.

2561
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,080
Next to the sea, I call it C,

2562
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:50,080
even though it's just water, and

2563
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:53,080
this is where 30 years ago my

2564
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,080
two children were born in

2565
01:58:56,080 --> 01:59:00,040
Lakeshore hospital. So I left 30

2566
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:05,040
years and I came back to the

2567
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:09,040
same source. We appreciate your

2568
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:13,040
efforts and import, all of you.

2569
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,040
I am here for two topics,

2570
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:21,040
followed by two questions. My

2571
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:25,040
prime priority topic is water.

2572
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:29,040
It's a very serious issue. Even

2573
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,040
if it is finished by the City of

2574
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:34,040
Montréal and even if we don't

2575
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:37,040
want to compare ourselves to

2576
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,040
others and we say the whole area

2577
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,040
or cities around us are using

2578
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,040
the same.

2579
02:01:59,060 --> 02:02:02,020
In other words, feminism and

2580
02:02:02,020 --> 02:02:04,020
environmentalism are huge issues

2581
02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:06,020
that took over our world and it

2582
02:02:06,020 --> 02:02:07,020
started, was led by the, people

2583
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:09,020
not by government. Governments

2584
02:02:09,020 --> 02:02:10,020
responded, but the public will

2585
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:12,020
is the most powerful thing in

2586
02:02:12,020 --> 02:02:16,020
the world, and if you think your

2587
02:02:16,020 --> 02:02:19,020
issue is something that will

2588
02:02:19,020 --> 02:02:21,020
take hold. --

2589
02:02:30,020 --> 02:02:31,020
>> Personally, I don't have

2590
02:02:31,020 --> 02:02:34,020
time, neither me, neither the

2591
02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:36,020
other citizens, to make a

2592
02:02:36,020 --> 02:02:37,020
coalition, to make

2593
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:41,020
demonstrations, and to go object

2594
02:02:41,020 --> 02:02:43,020
at ministries. We need your

2595
02:02:43,020 --> 02:02:48,020
support. We need a clear plan of

2596
02:02:50,020 --> 02:02:53,020
action with a timetable, how

2597
02:02:53,020 --> 02:02:56,020
this issue will be resolved A S

2598
02:02:56,020 --> 02:02:57,020
A P.

2599
02:02:57,020 --> 02:02:59,020
>> You can help with that plan

2600
02:02:59,020 --> 02:03:01,080
and timetable, sir. There is no

2601
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:02,080
reason why you can't. There's no

2602
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:04,080
reason why you can't.

2603
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:09,080
>> Because I have other personal

2604
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:15,080
issues. I can dedicate all my

2605
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,080
time with a few citizens for

2606
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:21,080
this issue. I need the support

2607
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:22,080
of the Council of my city, which

2608
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:24,080
is called Pointe-Claire.

2609
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,080
>> We have studied the issue, we

2610
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:27,080
have already looked, at it and

2611
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:29,080
it is becoming a more prominent

2612
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:30,080
issue in Pointe-Claire, for

2613
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:31,080
sure.

2614
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,080
>> Are there some actions taken

2615
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:35,080
at least, about the action taken

2616
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,080
and what is expected?

2617
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,080
>> We have exchanged the

2618
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:39,080
science, all of, us in emails.

2619
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:41,080
We have all talked about. It

2620
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:42,080
>> Emails?

2621
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:43,080
>> We are all evaluating issue

2622
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:46,080
and trying to resolve where

2623
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:47,080
we're going.

2624
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:51,080
>> Is there a printed about the

2625
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:54,080
progress of these actions to be

2626
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:55,080
taken?

2627
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,080
>> No. They will be voted on.

2628
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:02,040
>> If you are in district 3,

2629
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:03,040
feel free to contact me and I

2630
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:08,040
will for you the links to the

2631
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:10,040
systematic review. Every

2632
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:11,040
scientific based research is

2633
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:14,040
taken into account that has been

2634
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:15,040
produced on the fluoride topic,

2635
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,040
item by item, to evaluate what

2636
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:21,040
is being said. You can go ahead

2637
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:23,040
-- Mr. Kellogg has shared with

2638
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:24,040
us information, other systems

2639
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:26,040
have shared with us different

2640
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:28,040
links to some of the different

2641
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,040
evidence that is out there as

2642
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:33,040
well as some of the information

2643
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:34,040
from dentists in the area. I

2644
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:35,040
will share all that I have with

2645
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:36,040
you so we know what we are

2646
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:37,040
looking at.

2647
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:41,040
>> Thank you, but are these

2648
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:44,040
matters to be shared, are they

2649
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:47,040
putting the whole issue

2650
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,040
questionable --

2651
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,040
>> Now, it's research that is

2652
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,040
there.

2653
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:54,040
>> A way to provide safe water?

2654
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:55,040
>> You see, it goes line by line

2655
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:57,040
of every issue related to

2656
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:58,040
fluoridation and so we are

2657
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:00,000
taking people's opinions and

2658
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,000
then we will bring it back to

2659
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:05,000
caucus and then at one point we

2660
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,000
will reach out to decide whether

2661
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,000
we are satisfied, it's all being

2662
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:14,000
taken into consideration..

2663
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,000
>> You had a few questions on

2664
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:22,000
this. You have two is there

2665
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:26,000
another question

2666
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:31,000
>> Concerning the ecological

2667
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:36,000
site. Searchers have been done

2668
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:39,000
and is there any continuation

2669
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:43,000
for this to do more digging, to

2670
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:47,000
do more discoveries, or is it

2671
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,000
just up there?

2672
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:53,000
>> Good question. Mid

2673
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:56,000
>> To be honest I know all the

2674
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:59,000
work has been completed and so

2675
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:02,060
far, from what I heard, and I

2676
02:06:02,060 --> 02:06:05,060
don't think they were major

2677
02:06:05,060 --> 02:06:08,060
findings because such a site has

2678
02:06:08,060 --> 02:06:11,060
a lot of layers underneath.

2679
02:06:11,060 --> 02:06:13,060
>> It's in the hands of

2680
02:06:13,060 --> 02:06:14,060
professionals.

2681
02:06:14,060 --> 02:06:16,060
>> And this is education and

2682
02:06:16,060 --> 02:06:19,060
history and museum.

2683
02:06:19,060 --> 02:06:21,060
>> It's not driven by the

2684
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:23,060
municipality of Pointe-Claire.

2685
02:06:23,060 --> 02:06:25,060
It is totally independent. It is

2686
02:06:25,060 --> 02:06:27,060
done by professionals.

2687
02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:31,060
>> Yeah, I know. I know. But is

2688
02:06:31,060 --> 02:06:34,060
it stopped or is it a continuous

2689
02:06:34,060 --> 02:06:37,060
progress? As much as I searched,

2690
02:06:37,060 --> 02:06:38,060
they will find more and more?

2691
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:41,060
>> The work has been, I think,

2692
02:06:41,060 --> 02:06:43,060
completed. They are satisfied

2693
02:06:43,060 --> 02:06:46,060
with what they have.

2694
02:06:46,060 --> 02:06:47,060
>> Thank you sir.

2695
02:06:47,060 --> 02:06:50,060
>> Okay.

2696
02:06:50,060 --> 02:06:53,060
>> Thank you. Well,

2697
02:07:06,020 --> 02:07:11,020
, 10.01, I believe?. Avis de

2698
02:07:14,020 --> 02:07:16,020
motion et dépôt de projets de

2699
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:17,020
Règlement d'un emprunt à long

2700
02:07:17,020 --> 02:07:19,020
terme et d'une dépensant

2701
02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:21,020
mobilisation de 5 millions

2702
02:07:21,020 --> 02:07:23,020
925000 dollars pour des travaux

2703
02:07:23,020 --> 02:07:25,020
d'infrastructures municipale à

2704
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:26,020
divers endroits de serveurs

2705
02:07:26,020 --> 02:07:28,020
résidentiels. Les travaux visés

2706
02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:30,020
entre autres la construction et

2707
02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:33,020
la reconstruction, la réfection,

2708
02:07:33,020 --> 02:07:34,020
la réhabilitation de trottoirs

2709
02:07:34,020 --> 02:07:35,020
en bordure, dans les structures

2710
02:07:35,020 --> 02:07:38,020
de béton, viaducs, pistes

2711
02:07:38,020 --> 02:07:41,020
cyclables et service de type de

2712
02:07:41,020 --> 02:07:42,020
conduite d'eau, sanitaires et

2713
02:07:42,020 --> 02:07:43,020
pluviales

2714
02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:44,020
(inaudible)

2715
02:07:44,020 --> 02:07:45,020
(---)

2716
02:07:45,020 --> 02:07:46,020
. Un des travaux connexes de

2717
02:07:46,020 --> 02:07:48,020
même que la main-d'oeuvre à

2718
02:07:48,020 --> 02:07:49,020
capacités

2719
02:07:49,020 --> 02:07:50,020
(inaudible)

2720
02:07:50,020 --> 02:07:51,020
(---)

2721
02:07:51,020 --> 02:07:52,020
. Du secteur résidentiel de la

2722
02:07:52,020 --> 02:07:54,020
Ville, le montant a financé

2723
02:07:54,020 --> 02:07:56,020
remboursés par le billet d'une

2724
02:07:56,020 --> 02:07:58,020
taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

2725
02:07:58,020 --> 02:08:00,080
municipalité sur la base de la

2726
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:02,080
valeur foncière des immeubles

2727
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:03,080
imposables, et ce, sur une

2728
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:06,080
période de 20 ans.

2729
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,080
Of Highway 40, between Bancroft

2730
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:19,080
and comes the avenues, in

2731
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:20,080
industrial sector as well as

2732
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:22,080
long term borrowing in the

2733
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:27,080
amount of $1,610,000. The work

2734
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:30,080
targeted is in this project will

2735
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,080
improve the quality of the

2736
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:35,080
drinking water main in this

2737
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:36,080
industrial sector of the city of

2738
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:39,080
Pointe-Claire. This will greatly

2739
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:41,080
improve its structural capacity

2740
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:43,080
and water quality. The amount to

2741
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:45,080
be financed will be repaid to a

2742
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:48,080
local improvement tax over a

2743
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,080
20-year period. But

2744
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:15,040
... Mobilier, urbain,

2745
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:16,040
équipements de jeu, pistes

2746
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,040
cyclables, clôture, berge, plein

2747
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:22,040
tous partir, Denis, un droit de

2748
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:23,040
(---)

2749
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,040
etc.. Le montant a financé sera

2750
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:26,040
remboursé par le billet d'une

2751
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:29,040
taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

2752
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,040
municipalité sur la base de la

2753
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:34,040
valeur foncière des immeubles

2754
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:35,040
imposables, et ce, sur une

2755
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:37,040
période de 20 ans.

2756
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:38,040
>>

2757
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:39,040
Ten or four notices of motion

2758
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,040
filing of drab bylaw decreeing

2759
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:41,040
the existing execution of phase

2760
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,040
one of the Public Works Building

2761
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:45,040
extension, as well as long term

2762
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:47,040
borrowing in the amount of 5

2763
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:51,040
million, $500,000. The Public

2764
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:52,040
Works building innovation

2765
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:54,040
project involves the

2766
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,040
construction of six new bays and

2767
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:59,040
service spaces for mechanical

2768
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,000
sports shop and delivery dock,

2769
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:05,000
expansion of the outdated rooms,

2770
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,000
relocation and we moulding in

2771
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:10,000
the and electrical plumbing

2772
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:11,000
spaces rebuilding of the office

2773
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:14,000
space and addition and

2774
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,000
integration of universal

2775
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,000
accessibility the. Amount to be

2776
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,000
financed will be reimbursed

2777
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:22,000
through a tax levied on the

2778
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:23,000
entire municipality based, on

2779
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:25,000
property value of taxable

2780
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,000
buildings over a period of 20

2781
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:28,000
years.

2782
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:29,000
10.05 Avis de motion et dépôt

2783
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:30,000
d'un projet de règlement

2784
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:31,000
décrétant un emprunt à long

2785
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:32,000
terme et une dépense en

2786
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,000
immobilisations de 3265000 $

2787
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:34,000
pour des travaux de

2788
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:36,000
reconstruction dans le chemin du

2789
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:38,000
Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore, entre

2790
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:43,000
Coolbreeze et Lakeview. Dans le

2791
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:44,000
cadre d'un projet majeur de la

2792
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,000
Ville de Montréal qui s'étalera

2793
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:50,000
sur une période de plusieurs

2794
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:53,000
années et où ils construiront un

2795
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:55,000
aqueduc de 900 millimètres de

2796
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:57,000
diamètre selon deux tracés

2797
02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:58,000
spécifiques touchant notre

2798
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:00,060
municipalité, nous en profitons

2799
02:11:00,060 --> 02:11:01,060
pour réintégrer nos besoins en

2800
02:11:01,060 --> 02:11:02,060
infrastructures. Le but de ce

2801
02:11:02,060 --> 02:11:05,060
projet est de remplacer des

2802
02:11:05,060 --> 02:11:06,060
conduites d'aqueduc, d'égouts

2803
02:11:06,060 --> 02:11:08,060
sanitaires et pluviales,

2804
02:11:08,060 --> 02:11:09,060
reconstruire l'aborder de la

2805
02:11:09,060 --> 02:11:11,060
chaussure et uniquement si cela

2806
02:11:11,060 --> 02:11:13,060
est approprié. Le montant

2807
02:11:13,060 --> 02:11:15,060
financé sera remboursé par le

2808
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:16,060
billet d'une taxe imposée à la

2809
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:17,060
valeur de la municipalité...

2810
02:11:17,060 --> 02:11:19,060
pardon, à l'ensemble de la

2811
02:11:19,060 --> 02:11:21,060
municipalité à hauteur de la

2812
02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:22,060
valeur des immeubles

2813
02:11:22,060 --> 02:11:23,060
>> Do I have someone who can

2814
02:11:23,060 --> 02:11:24,060
imposables et give ce, pour une

2815
02:11:24,060 --> 02:11:26,060
valeur... notice of d'une durée

2816
02:11:26,060 --> 02:11:28,060
de 20 ans. Motion for 10.01

2817
02:11:28,060 --> 02:11:29,060
Two 10.05? I

2818
02:11:29,060 --> 02:11:33,060
>> Give notice of motion for

2819
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:38,060
filing of 10.01 two 10.05 team.

2820
02:11:38,060 --> 02:11:39,060
10.06 Adoption, avec

2821
02:11:39,060 --> 02:11:40,060
modification, d'un règlement

2822
02:11:40,060 --> 02:11:41,060
décrétant les tarifs exigibles

2823
02:11:41,060 --> 02:11:42,060
pour le financement de biens,

2824
02:11:42,060 --> 02:11:43,060
services et activités offerts

2825
02:11:43,060 --> 02:11:44,060
par la Ville de Pointe-Claire

2826
02:11:44,060 --> 02:11:49,060
pour l'exercice financier 2023.

2827
02:11:50,060 --> 02:11:53,060
Donc c'est l'adoption ce soir,

2828
02:11:53,060 --> 02:11:55,060
suite au dépôt du projet qui a

2829
02:11:55,060 --> 02:11:56,060
eu lieu à la séance régulière de

2830
02:11:56,060 --> 02:11:59,060
septembre, une modification a

2831
02:11:59,060 --> 02:12:01,020
été apportée entre le projet

2832
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:04,020
déposé et l'adoption de ce soir,

2833
02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:06,020
donc l'ajout à l'annexe un d'un

2834
02:12:06,020 --> 02:12:09,020
élément qui s'intitule: frais

2835
02:12:09,020 --> 02:12:10,020
exigible lorsqu'un employé de la

2836
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:13,020
Ville doit se déplacer pour lire

2837
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:14,020
un compteur d'eau en raison

2838
02:12:14,020 --> 02:12:16,020
d'une installation non conforme

2839
02:12:16,020 --> 02:12:18,020
du compteur d'eau, frais requis

2840
02:12:18,020 --> 02:12:19,020
de 100 dollars.

2841
02:12:19,020 --> 02:12:24,020
>> Do I have a mover?

2842
02:12:26,020 --> 02:12:28,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

2843
02:12:28,020 --> 02:12:32,020
district 3.

2844
02:12:32,020 --> 02:12:33,020
>>

2845
02:12:33,020 --> 02:12:35,020
- O.K., excuse, je m'excuse.

2846
02:12:42,020 --> 02:12:44,020
10.07 an architectural

2847
02:12:44,020 --> 02:12:46,020
integration plan. Building of

2848
02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:48,020
heritage interest. 72 brought to

2849
02:12:48,020 --> 02:12:50,020
you and the new, exterior event

2850
02:12:50,020 --> 02:12:53,020
renovations, 105 Prince Edward

2851
02:12:53,020 --> 02:12:57,020
Avenue, construction of a double

2852
02:12:57,020 --> 02:13:00,080
garage enlargement of driveway.

2853
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:02,080
When 18 Broadway Avenue,

2854
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:04,080
replacing existing driveway,

2855
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:07,080
1:50 to, like four road,

2856
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:09,080
extension and renovations, nine

2857
02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:12,080
cavil Avenue extension and

2858
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:14,080
renovation.

2859
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:19,080
>> Do I have a mover?

2860
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:21,080
>> Cynthia Homan,

2861
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:22,080
- Bruno Tremblay, district six.

2862
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:23,080
District district 5.

2863
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:25,080
>> All in favour?

2864
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:26,080
Les personnes présentes peuvent

2865
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:27,080
s'adresser au conseil concernant

2866
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:28,080
les sujets ci-dessous pour les

2867
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:33,080
items 10.08 à 10.12:

2868
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:39,080
>> Here under from the items

2869
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:44,080
10.09 to

2870
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:51,080
10.12. Il n'y. A plus de micro?

2871
02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:55,080
- Excuse-moi, Patrick. Patrick,

2872
02:13:55,080 --> 02:13:56,080
dû the

2873
02:13:56,080 --> 02:14:00,040
Remettre le... merci, Patrick.

2874
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:05,040
Peux-tu remettre le...

2875
02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:09,040
- François leur, complexe

2876
02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:10,040
Pointe-Claire, sur la rue

2877
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,040
Saint-Jean. On a fait une

2878
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:14,040
demande de rénovation mineure,

2879
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:15,040
honnêtement, je ne suis jamais

2880
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:16,040
venu aux séances, je ne suis pas

2881
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,040
sûr de comment ça fonctionne. Je

2882
02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:19,040
crois qu'on m'a donné une

2883
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,040
lettre, je crois que vous allez

2884
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:22,040
avoir des suggestions ou des

2885
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,040
recommandations pour

2886
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:25,040
l'approbation... non, je pensais

2887
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:27,040
que vous étiez pour intervenir,

2888
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:29,040
excusez-moi! Donc je voulais

2889
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:32,040
juste... dire un peu plus que...

2890
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:33,040
dans un cas comme on présente ce

2891
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:36,040
soir, le 755 ces gens, qui est

2892
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,040
de pouvoir afficher un de nos

2893
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:39,040
locateurs majeur dans l'édifice,

2894
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:42,040
c'est vraiment important pour

2895
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:44,040
notre business et notre façon de

2896
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:45,040
travailler, leur façon de

2897
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:47,040
travailler, on a souvent des

2898
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:48,040
problèmes sur le fait que la

2899
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:49,040
plupart de nos locataires ne

2900
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:51,040
peuvent pas s'afficher. Celui de

2901
02:14:51,040 --> 02:14:53,040
ce soir, c'est juste un

2902
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:54,040
locataire, c'est le plus gros

2903
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:57,040
locataire qu'on a de... dans

2904
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:59,040
l'édifice, j'espère que ça va

2905
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:02,000
fonctionner. Merci.

2906
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:03,000
- Monsieur

2907
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:04,000
>> Mr. Sandy?

2908
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:05,000
Séguin?

2909
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:06,000
- Si vous voulez me laisser vos

2910
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:07,000
coordonnées, puis est-ce que

2911
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:09,000
vous avez une carte d'affaires?

2912
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:11,000
Je vais demander à mes collègues

2913
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:13,000
du département de l'urbanisme de

2914
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:17,000
communiquer avec vous. Le

2915
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:18,000
conseil doit se prononcer ce

2916
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,000
soir, mais on aimerait pouvoir

2917
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:21,000
communiquer avec vous par la

2918
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:24,000
suite.

2919
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:33,000
10.09 Considérer une demande de

2920
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:34,000
dérogation mineure pour

2921
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:35,000
permettre au 302-306, chemin du

2922
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:36,000
Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore: a) Une

2923
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:37,000
allée de circulation d'une

2924
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:38,000
largeur de 6,4 mètres plutôt que

2925
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:41,000
le minimum requis de 6,6 mètres;

2926
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:42,000
b) Une aire de stationnement à

2927
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:44,000
2.5 mètres de la marge avant

2928
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:45,000
secondaire plutôt que le minimum

2929
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:47,000
requis de 3 mètres; c) Une aire

2930
02:15:47,000 --> 02:15:48,000
de stationnement à 0 mètre de la

2931
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,000
limite de lot arrière plutôt que

2932
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:54,000
le minimum requis de 1.5 mètre.

2933
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:57,000
Vous avez une recommandation à

2934
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:00,060
l'effet de refuser la dérogation

2935
02:16:00,060 --> 02:16:05,060
mineure.

2936
02:16:05,060 --> 02:16:09,060
>> 10.10 consider minor

2937
02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:11,060
exemption to 15 F Cartier

2938
02:16:11,060 --> 02:16:13,060
Avenue, the installation of a

2939
02:16:13,060 --> 02:16:14,060
sign above the common entrance

2940
02:16:14,060 --> 02:16:18,060
for a non-ground floor

2941
02:16:18,060 --> 02:16:20,060
establishment. The

2942
02:16:20,060 --> 02:16:22,060
recommendation is to refuse the

2943
02:16:22,060 --> 02:16:23,060
10.11 Considérer une demande de

2944
02:16:23,060 --> 02:16:24,060
dérogation mineure request.

2945
02:16:24,060 --> 02:16:25,060
Pour permettre au 9, avenue

2946
02:16:25,060 --> 02:16:27,060
Cavell: a) Une allée d'accès

2947
02:16:27,060 --> 02:16:29,060
pour véhicules d'une largeur non

2948
02:16:29,060 --> 02:16:30,060
constante à partir de la

2949
02:16:30,060 --> 02:16:32,060
bordure, jusqu'à 60 centimètres

2950
02:16:32,060 --> 02:16:33,060
à l'intérieur de la limite de

2951
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:35,060
propriété plutôt qu'une largeur

2952
02:16:35,060 --> 02:16:36,060
constante sur cette même

2953
02:16:36,060 --> 02:16:38,060
distance; b) Un accès pour

2954
02:16:38,060 --> 02:16:39,060
véhicules d'une largeur de 15

2955
02:16:39,060 --> 02:16:40,060
mètres plutôt que le maximum

2956
02:16:40,060 --> 02:16:45,060
permis de 6,1 mètres. Donc c'est

2957
02:16:46,060 --> 02:16:51,060
la question à laquelle madame...

2958
02:16:52,060 --> 02:16:54,060
Kelly Thorstad-Cullen a répondu

2959
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:57,060
tard tout à l'heure, régler une

2960
02:16:57,060 --> 02:16:58,060
situation existante depuis les

2961
02:16:58,060 --> 02:17:01,020
années 2000. Vous avez une

2962
02:17:01,020 --> 02:17:02,020
recommandation favorable

2963
02:17:02,020 --> 02:17:03,020
d'accepter la demande de

2964
02:17:03,020 --> 02:17:05,020
dérogation mineure.

2965
02:17:07,020 --> 02:17:11,020
And turn 10.12 12, consider a

2966
02:17:11,020 --> 02:17:13,020
minor exemption request to

2967
02:17:13,020 --> 02:17:16,020
permit at 755 scents on

2968
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:18,020
boulevard. A monument signed

2969
02:17:18,020 --> 02:17:19,020
identifying a name other than

2970
02:17:19,020 --> 02:17:21,020
the name of the building. Be,

2971
02:17:21,020 --> 02:17:22,020
the installation of said

2972
02:17:22,020 --> 02:17:26,020
monument sign where it is not

2973
02:17:26,020 --> 02:17:28,020
permitted. But in the pack

2974
02:17:28,020 --> 02:17:31,020
recommendation is to refuse the

2975
02:17:31,020 --> 02:17:32,020
request.

2976
02:17:32,020 --> 02:17:37,020
>> Do I have a mover? Brent

2977
02:17:41,020 --> 02:17:42,020
>> Brent Cowan, district 8, I

2978
02:17:42,020 --> 02:17:46,020
refused to accept the

2979
02:17:46,020 --> 02:17:48,020
recommendation to refuse 10.10

2980
02:17:48,020 --> 02:17:51,020
and approve 10.11 and refuse

2981
02:17:51,020 --> 02:17:52,020
10.12.

2982
02:17:52,020 --> 02:17:55,020
>> All in favour?

2983
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:04,080
- 20.01

2984
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:05,080
>>?

2985
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:07,080
- May I, for just one second? Si

2986
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:09,080
vous me laissez vos coordonnées,

2987
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:12,080
les gens vont vous... contacter,

2988
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:16,080
expliquer en détail. Ce n'est

2989
02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:22,080
pas votre nom? À, O.K.. On va

2990
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:26,080
communiquer avec vous.

2991
02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:32,080
- 20.01.

2992
02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:34,080
- Déposer la liste des

2993
02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:35,080
amendements budgétaires pour la

2994
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:36,080
période du 25 août

2995
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:37,080
2022 au 21 septembre 2022 et le

2996
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:40,080
registre des chèques pour la

2997
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:41,080
période du 25 août 2022 au 21

2998
02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:46,080
septembre 2022.

2999
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:12,040
20.03 Autoriser l'accès à Mon

3000
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:13,040
Dossier à Revenu Québec pour le

3001
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:18,040
compte de la ville.

3002
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:29,040
>> 20.04, appointee access to

3003
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:31,040
the documents held by public

3004
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:32,040
bodies on the 20.05 protection

3005
02:19:32,040 --> 02:19:33,040
of Autoriser la participation

3006
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:34,040
d'une personal information

3007
02:19:34,040 --> 02:19:35,040
employée de la ville au congrès

3008
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:36,040
du Comité francophone et du

3009
02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:37,040
Comité national du club de

3010
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:38,040
lecture d'été TD qui committee

3011
02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:39,040
se tiendra à Winnipeg.. 20 or

3012
02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:40,040
five authorized the

3013
02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:41,040
participation of one city

3014
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:45,040
employee the francophone

3015
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:49,040
Committee. 2006, authorized

3016
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:51,040
participation of three city

3017
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:55,040
employees at the annual national

3018
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:56,040
coaching 20.07 Autoriser un

3019
02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:57,040
amendement participation

3020
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:58,040
budgétaire afin de financer les

3021
02:19:58,040 --> 02:19:59,040
dépenses opérationnelles

3022
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:00,000
mécaniques et de menuiserie afin

3023
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:01,000
de compléter l'année fiscale

3024
02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:02,000
2022. Program conference to be

3025
02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:05,000
held in Ottawa.

3026
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:18,000
20.08, grants financial port for

3027
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:20,000
the 54th annual baked beans day

3028
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:22,000
le montant organized by the du

3029
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:23,000
support financier est un montant

3030
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:24,000
de 1040 dollars.

3031
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:26,000
Fraternity de Police Police

3032
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:27,000
20.09 the Montréal Nommer un

3033
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:28,000
membre au sein du comité de

3034
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,000
démolition..

3035
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:36,000
>> Do I have a mover?

3036
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:40,000
>> One specific information, the

3037
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:42,000
nomination to appoint Mr. Cowan

3038
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:43,000
to the committee.

3039
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:46,000
>> I propose items 20.02 to

3040
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:02,060
20.09. All in favour?

3041
02:21:02,060 --> 02:21:04,060
>> 30.01 has been removed from

3042
02:21:04,060 --> 02:21:06,060
the agenda. 30.02 Approuver un

3043
02:21:06,060 --> 02:21:07,060
protocole d'entente à intervenir

3044
02:21:07,060 --> 02:21:08,060
entre la Ville de Pointe-Claire

3045
02:21:08,060 --> 02:21:09,060
et le Club de canoë kayak de

3046
02:21:09,060 --> 02:21:12,060
Pointe-Claire inc.

3047
02:21:19,060 --> 02:21:24,060
30.03 approve an agreement

3048
02:21:26,060 --> 02:21:27,060
to be entered into between the

3049
02:21:27,060 --> 02:21:29,060
city of Pointe-Claire and Angelo

3050
02:21:29,060 --> 02:21:31,060
Key vandals for a restaurant

3051
02:21:31,060 --> 02:21:36,060
food concessions services at

3052
02:21:40,060 --> 02:21:41,060
--

3053
02:21:41,060 --> 02:21:42,060
>> Do I have

3054
02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:43,060
(inaudible)

3055
02:21:43,060 --> 02:21:44,060
a mover?

3056
02:21:44,060 --> 02:21:45,060
(---)

3057
02:21:45,060 --> 02:21:46,060
.

3058
02:21:46,060 --> 02:21:47,060
>> Eric

3059
02:21:47,060 --> 02:21:48,060
Stork, district seven.

3060
02:21:48,060 --> 02:21:51,060
>> Carrie Thorstad-Cullen, 30.04

3061
02:21:51,060 --> 02:21:52,060
Se prévaloir de l'option de

3062
02:21:52,060 --> 02:21:53,060
renouvellement district 3.

3063
02:21:53,060 --> 02:21:54,060
Prévue au contrat intervenu avec

3064
02:21:54,060 --> 02:21:55,060
Documents Traduction inc., pour

3065
02:21:55,060 --> 02:21:56,060
des services professionnels de

3066
02:21:56,060 --> 02:21:57,060
traduction, pour l'année 2023,

3067
02:21:57,060 --> 02:21:58,060
pour un montant total de

3068
02:21:58,060 --> 02:21:59,060
115262,44 $, taxes incluses.

3069
02:21:59,060 --> 02:22:00,020
>>

3070
02:22:00,020 --> 02:22:01,020
30.05 painting and standing

3071
02:22:01,020 --> 02:22:02,020
services for find your hydrants

3072
02:22:02,020 --> 02:22:05,020
for the year 2023, for a total

3073
02:22:05,020 --> 02:22:10,020
amount of $15,694.09, taxes

3074
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,020
included. 30.06 Octroyer un

3075
02:22:16,020 --> 02:22:17,020
contrat pour le montage, le

3076
02:22:17,020 --> 02:22:18,020
démontage, les réparations,

3077
02:22:18,020 --> 02:22:19,020
l'achat d'articles connexes et

3078
02:22:19,020 --> 02:22:20,020
l'exécution de travaux

3079
02:22:20,020 --> 02:22:21,020
imprévisibles des structures

3080
02:22:21,020 --> 02:22:22,020
marines de la Ville, pour les

3081
02:22:22,020 --> 02:22:25,020
années 2023, 2024 et 2025, à

3082
02:22:25,020 --> 02:22:26,020
Indy-Co, pour un montant total

3083
02:22:26,020 --> 02:22:29,020
de 254546,03 $, taxes incluses.

3084
02:22:39,020 --> 02:22:40,020
30.06 30 or seven award of

3085
02:22:40,020 --> 02:22:41,020
contract for catch basin

3086
02:22:41,020 --> 02:22:46,020
cleaning and pumping services to

3087
02:22:50,020 --> 02:22:55,020
the BIA in viral tech inked.

3088
02:22:56,020 --> 02:22:57,020
30.08 Octroyer un contrat pour

3089
02:22:57,020 --> 02:22:58,020
des services professionnels de

3090
02:22:58,020 --> 02:22:59,020
photos et vidéos, pour l'année

3091
02:22:59,020 --> 02:23:00,080
2023, à Pénéga Communications

3092
02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:01,080
inc., pour un montant total de

3093
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:02,080
123310,69 $, taxes incluses,

3094
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:03,080
avec option de renouvellement

3095
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:08,080
pour l'année 2024.

3096
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:13,080
--

3097
02:23:15,080 --> 02:23:19,080
, 30.09 a word of contract for

3098
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:20,080
the installation removal of

3099
02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:21,080
Christmas decorations across the

3100
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,080
city to mow facts elected

3101
02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:28,080
economy day for a total amount

3102
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:31,080
of $50,000 $428.04, taxes

3103
02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:35,080
included. 30.10 Approuver des

3104
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:37,080
modifications au contrat

3105
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:38,080
intervenu avec Réalisation

3106
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:39,080
Dynamique inc., pour la

3107
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:40,080
construction d'une aire de jeu

3108
02:23:40,080 --> 02:23:41,080
d'eau au parc Augusta, pour un

3109
02:23:41,080 --> 02:23:42,080
montant total de 1207,24 $,

3110
02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:46,080
taxes incluses.

3111
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:48,080
>> Do I have a mover?

3112
02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:53,080
>> I move items 30.05 to 30.10.

3113
02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:57,080
>> Seconder?

3114
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:58,080
>> Eric Stork, district 7.

3115
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:03,040
>> All in favour?

3116
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:08,040
>>

3117
02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:11,040
For

3118
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:13,040
>>, 30.11 a prove change orders

3119
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:15,040
to the contract undertaken with

3120
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:17,040
energy air inc. for phase two of

3121
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,040
the contract for the supply and

3122
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:20,040
installation of L.E.D. street

3123
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:22,040
lights through the group urges

3124
02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:23,040
program of the Federation

3125
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:25,040
Québécois de municipally day for

3126
02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:26,040
a total amount 30.12 of

3127
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:27,040
Approuver des modifications au

3128
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:28,040
contrat intervenu avec Transport

3129
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:29,040
JR Cyr & Fils inc., pour des

3130
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:30,040
services d'entrepreneur général

3131
02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:31,040
pour la réalisation de fouilles

3132
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:32,040
archéologiques, pour un montant

3133
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:33,040
total de 18774,45 $, taxes

3134
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:34,040
incluses. $29,279.81, taxes

3135
02:24:34,040 --> 02:24:37,040
included.

3136
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:54,040
30.12

3137
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:01,000
30.13 yeah, 30.14, Approuver une

3138
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:02,000
modification au contrat approval

3139
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:03,000
intervenu avec Réhabilitation Du

3140
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:04,000
O inc., change order to the pour

3141
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:05,000
la reconstruction de la chaussée

3142
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:06,000
de l'avenue Bancroft, contract

3143
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:07,000
entered into pour un montant

3144
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:08,000
total de 5044,60 $, taxes

3145
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:09,000
incluses. With Xerox Canada

3146
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:10,000
limited for the purchase of

3147
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:11,000
information technology,

3148
02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:12,000
equipment, for a total amount of

3149
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:15,000
$50,000, taxes included.

3150
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:32,000
30. 15, approve a change order

3151
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:36,000
to the contract entered into

3152
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:38,000
with a renovations lender

3153
02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:40,000
costing for order culture

3154
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:41,000
maintenance works and machinery

3155
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:43,000
rental for the terracotta

3156
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:44,000
natural Park.

3157
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:49,000
>> And seconder? Cowan, 30.16

3158
02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:55,000
district 8 Approuver une

3159
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:56,000
modification au contrat

3160
02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:57,000
intervenu avec Troicé

3161
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:58,000
Construction inc., pour la

3162
02:25:58,000 --> 02:25:59,000
construction d'un. Bâtiment

3163
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:00,060
sanitaire au parc Augusta, pour

3164
02:26:00,060 --> 02:26:01,060
un montant total de 30300,79 $,

3165
02:26:01,060 --> 02:26:03,060
taxes incluses.

3166
02:26:03,060 --> 02:26:08,060
Who

3167
02:26:10,060 --> 02:26:15,060
30. 17, approve a change to the

3168
02:26:16,060 --> 02:26:18,060
contract entered into with

3169
02:26:18,060 --> 02:26:19,060
mechanical exemption for the

3170
02:26:19,060 --> 02:26:21,060
replacement of the boilers city

3171
02:26:21,060 --> 02:26:25,060
all, for a total amount of

3172
02:26:25,060 --> 02:26:28,060
$11,980.16, taxes included.

3173
02:26:28,060 --> 02:26:29,060
30.18 Modifier la résolution

3174
02:26:29,060 --> 02:26:30,060
2022-455 afin de retirer la

3175
02:26:30,060 --> 02:26:31,060
partie de la commande octroyée à

3176
02:26:31,060 --> 02:26:32,060
FCA Canada inc. pour un montant

3177
02:26:32,060 --> 02:26:33,060
total de 701156,64 $, taxes

3178
02:26:33,060 --> 02:26:36,060
incluses.

3179
02:26:50,060 --> 02:26:51,060
Approve the evaluation criteria

3180
02:26:51,060 --> 02:26:52,060
to be used within the framework

3181
02:26:52,060 --> 02:26:55,060
of a call for tenders for

3182
02:26:55,060 --> 02:26:56,060
professional services for the

3183
02:26:56,060 --> 02:26:57,060
carrying out of a traffic study

3184
02:26:57,060 --> 02:26:59,060
in the Pointe-Claire Village

3185
02:26:59,060 --> 02:27:04,020
area.

3186
02:27:04,020 --> 02:27:06,020
>> Do I have a mover mover?

3187
02:27:06,020 --> 02:27:11,020
>> I move to approve 30 16 and

3188
02:27:14,020 --> 02:27:17,020
30 17. At 30 18 and also moved

3189
02:27:17,020 --> 02:27:22,020
to approve 30 19.

3190
02:27:24,020 --> 02:27:25,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

3191
02:27:25,020 --> 02:27:26,020
district 3.

3192
02:27:26,020 --> 02:27:29,020
>> All in favour? 50.01, Déposer

3193
02:27:29,020 --> 02:27:30,020
la liste des changements au

3194
02:27:30,020 --> 02:27:31,020
personnel par décisions

3195
02:27:31,020 --> 02:27:32,020
déléguées pour le mois d'octobre

3196
02:27:32,020 --> 02:27:33,020
2022, telle que préparée par

3197
02:27:33,020 --> 02:27:34,020
monsieur Vincent Proulx,

3198
02:27:34,020 --> 02:27:35,020
Directeur - ressources

3199
02:27:35,020 --> 02:27:39,020
>> Humaines.

3200
02:27:39,020 --> 02:27:42,020
>> 50 oh, to approve the list of

3201
02:27:42,020 --> 02:27:44,020
non delegated staff changes as

3202
02:27:44,020 --> 02:27:47,020
of October 4th, 2022.

3203
02:27:47,020 --> 02:27:48,020
>> Do I have a mover?

3204
02:27:48,020 --> 02:27:52,020
>> Eric Stork, district seven

3205
02:27:52,020 --> 02:27:53,020
and.

3206
02:27:53,020 --> 02:27:54,020
>>? Second or

3207
02:27:54,020 --> 02:27:55,020
>> Je seconde, Bruno Tremblay,

3208
02:27:55,020 --> 02:28:00,080
district six.

3209
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:01,080
Tremblay, district 6.

3210
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:03,080
>> Those no item under the

3211
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:05,080
various section. Do I have a

3212
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:08,080
mover to close the meeting?

3213
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:11,080
>> I move to approve, district

3214
02:28:11,080 --> 02:28:14,080
four.

3215
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:15,080
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

3216
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:16,080
district 3. All in

3217
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:17,080
- Favour?

3218
02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:18,080
>> Good. Bonsoir, tout le

3219
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:19,080
>> Good night everybody.

3220
02:28:19,080 --> 02:28:21,080
Monde!