[0:38] - Chers citoyennes et chers
[0:40] citoyens, bienvenue à cette
[0:42] séance ordinaire du conseil
[0:43] municipal du 4 octobre 2022.
[0:58] Depuis que j'ai été élu, j'ai
[1:00] essayé d'être plus ouvert dans
[1:02] la gestion des réunions du
[1:05] conseil et après la réunion du
[1:07] mois dernier, je tiens à
[1:09] préciser que certains
[1:12] comportements perturbateur ne
[1:13] seront plus tolérés. Les
[1:19] intervenants seront autorisés à
[1:21] montrer au micro qu'une seule
[1:22] fois pour poser leurs questions
[1:24] et non plusieurs fois au cours
[1:26] de la même réunion. Je me
[1:30] réserverai le droit de demander
[1:33] aux intervenants au micro qui
[1:36] utilise à plusieurs reprises une
[1:39] langue irrespectueuse de
[1:41] s'asseoir et de me permettre de
[1:43] prendre la question de la
[1:44] personne suivante dans la file.
[1:47] Si elle refuse, je demanderai
[1:50] à... la Sécurité publique de les
[1:52] faire sortir de la salle du
[1:53] conseil. Si les questions et les
[1:57] interventions au micro... seules
[2:00] ces questions seront autorisés.
[2:02] Lors de notre dernière réunion,
[2:04] la vice-présidence, Raymond
[2:06] Paré, à crier à plusieurs
[2:09] reprises on vers la conseillère
[2:13] Erin Tedford afin de l'empêcher
[2:14] et de terminer un discours
[2:17] concernant son projet de
[2:18] (inaudible)
[2:19] . Son projet a été approuvé par
[2:22] le conseil et il a tout de même
[2:25] attendu à l'extérieur pour
[2:27] continuer de la réprimander dans
[2:30] le stationnement alors qu'elle
[2:31] montait dans sa voiture. Bien
[2:35] qu'on lui ait demandé à
[2:36] plusieurs reprises de partir, il
[2:39] a refusé de le faire, même après
[2:41] que la sécurité publique ait été
[2:45] appelé à intervenir.
[2:48] Permettez-moi d'être très
[2:49] claire: il y aura une tolérance
[2:52] 0 pour ce type d'interruption à
[2:56] l'avenir. Nous avons vu trop
[2:58] d'exemples au cours des derniers
[3:00] mois d'intimidation et de
[3:02] harcèlement des élus qui tentent
[3:05] de faire leur travail. Peu
[3:08] importe qui vous êtes ou quelle
[3:10] influence vous avez, si vous
[3:13] n'êtes pas prêt à faire preuve
[3:15] d'un minimum de respect pour
[3:17] notre décorum et notre débat
[3:18] démocratique, je ferai sortir de
[3:21] la salle du conseil et
[3:23] j'exigerais que vous quittiez
[3:24] les locaux de l'hôtel de ville
[3:25] immédiatement.
[5:00] Bon! Avant de continuer la
[5:02] séance du conseil municipal,
[5:05] permettez-moi de faire une mise
[5:06] à jour concernant les travaux
[5:10] d'infrastructure municipales qui
[5:11] étaient prévues dans le village
[5:12] de Pointe-Claire en 2023 ainsi
[5:15] que l'entente entre la Ville de
[5:19] Pointe-Claire et le club de golf
[5:21] et, finalement, le prix reçu de
[5:24] l'Association Canadienne des
[5:25] Travaux publics pour les
[5:26] activités de la Journée des
[5:27] Travaux publics. Tout d'abord,
[5:31] je vous annonce le report des
[5:32] travaux d'infrastructures
[5:37] municipales prévus l'an prochain
[5:38] dans le village de
[5:39] Pointe-Claire, entre les avenues
[5:40] Victoria et du Golf, en 2024 et
[5:44] 2025. À la suite des rencontres
[5:48] consultatives qui ont eu lieu à
[5:49] la mi-juin, en personne, en
[5:52] webinaire et en ligne sur la
[5:54] plateforme de consultation
[5:55] citoyenne, nos équipes
[5:57] souhaitent tenir une deuxième
[6:00] série de rencontres
[6:01] consultatives à l'hiver prochain
[6:04] afin de poursuivre la discussion
[6:07] sur différents aspects soulevés
[6:09] lors de cette première série de
[6:14] rencontres. Pour le moment,
[6:15] aucune décision n'a été prise
[6:16] sur l'aménagement futur du
[6:19] chemin du Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore,
[6:22] soit une rue à double-sens ou
[6:26] une rue à sens unique. La
[6:28] deuxième série de rencontres
[6:32] consultatives permettra
[6:33] d'apporter des éléments
[6:34] additionnels à cette décision
[6:35] majeure pour notre secteur
[6:41] villageois. Nous sommes
[6:42] conscients que ces travaux
[6:43] auront un impact dans tout le
[6:47] secteur villageois, autant les
[6:48] résidents que les commerçants,
[6:53] ce pourquoi nous poursuivrons
[6:55] les démarches préparatoires au
[6:57] cours de la prochaine année en
[6:59] vue de circonscrire les
[7:03] conséquences. Je vous informe
[7:04] également que nous déposerons ce
[7:05] soir pour adoption l'entente
[7:08] entre la Ville de Pointe-Claire
[7:10] et le Club de golf Beaconsfield
[7:13] pour offrir, à nouveau cet
[7:14] hiver, un tracé de ski de fond
[7:18] et une piste de marche sur le
[7:19] terrain du golf. Cette année, ce
[7:28] ne sera pas l'accord...
[7:29] Before starting the City Council
[7:31] meeting, let us briefly review
[7:33] the following. The municipal
[7:34] infrastructure works or planned
[7:36] for Pointe-Claire village in
[7:37] 2023, as well as the agreement
[7:40] between the city of
[7:41] Pointe-Claire and the
[7:42] Beaconsfield golf club, and
[7:44] finally, the award received from
[7:46] the Canadian association of
[7:47] public works for the activities
[7:48] of the public works today. First
[7:51] of all, I am announcing that
[7:54] municipal infrastructure work
[7:55] planned for next year in
[7:57] Pointe-Claire village between
[7:59] Victoria and golf avenues will
[8:00] be postponed in 2024 and 2025.
[8:05] Following the consultant at the
[8:07] meetings that took place in mid
[8:08] June, in person, via webinar and
[8:11] online, on the citizen
[8:13] consultation platform, our teams
[8:14] would like to have a second
[8:16] series of consultative meetings
[8:18] next winter to continue the
[8:20] discussion on different aspects
[8:22] during this first series of
[8:25] meetings for the moment, no
[8:26] decision has been made on the
[8:28] future development of border
[8:30] lack lakeshore road. As either a
[8:32] two-way street or a one-way
[8:34] street. The second series of
[8:36] consultative meetings will allow
[8:37] us to include additional
[8:39] elements to this major decision
[8:42] for our village sector. We are
[8:45] aware that these works will
[8:47] impact the entire sector, for
[8:49] villagers and merchants, so we
[8:51] will continue the preparatory
[8:52] steps next year to limit the
[8:54] consequences. I would also like
[8:56] to inform you that this evening,
[8:58] we adopt the agreement between
[9:00] the city of Pointe-Claire and
[9:01] the Beaconsfield golf club to
[9:03] provide once again this winter
[9:04] across country ski trail and
[9:06] walking trail through the golf
[9:10] course.
[9:15] - Ce soir, au nom du conseil
[9:17] municipal, je voudrais remettre
[9:18] la plaque de l'Association
[9:20] canadienne des Travaux publics
[9:22] au directeur du service des
[9:24] Travaux publics, monsieur Éric
[9:26] Rolland
[9:27] (applaudissements)
[9:31] Merci. Pour une deuxième année
[9:33] consécutive nous avons remporté
[9:34] ce prix de l'Association
[9:39] Canadienne des Travaux publics
[9:40] pour la créativité des activités
[9:41] déployées dans le cadre de la
[9:42] Journée des Travaux publics qui
[9:44] a eu lieu le 15 mai dernier. Ces
[9:48] prix honorent les efforts pour
[9:50] promouvoir cette journée, l'un
[9:53] des meilleurs moyens de
[9:55] sensibiliser les citoyens à
[9:56] l'importance des travaux publics
[9:57] et aux services qu'ils
[9:59] fournissent à notre communauté.
[10:03] Les 140 employés des travaux
[10:05] publics de Pointe-Claire ont
[10:07] participé à la célébration de la
[10:09] Semaine des travaux publics de
[10:10] la ville. Plusieurs services ont
[10:14] travaillé ensemble pour assurer
[10:15] le succès de l'événement:
[10:19] Travaux publics, Communications,
[10:22] Ressources humaines et Loisirs.
[10:25] L'événement a été un franc
[10:26] succès, apprécié par plus de 650
[10:30] citoyens de tous âges.
[10:33] Félicitations à tous!
[10:38] Tonight, on behalf of the City
[10:39] Council, I am giving the plaque
[10:41] of Canadian Public Works
[10:44] Association to the director of
[10:45] public works department, Eric
[10:47] radon. For a second year in a
[10:49] row, he won an award from the
[10:51] Canadian so CA shun of public
[10:53] works for the creativity of the
[10:55] activities deployed as part of
[10:56] the public works which took
[10:58] place on May 15th. CP W raise
[11:04] awards honour the efforts to
[11:05] promote national public works
[11:07] week. One of the ways to
[11:09] increase public awareness about
[11:11] public works and the services
[11:12] public works provide, provides
[11:14] to our communities. I'm in 40
[11:18] Pointe-Claire Public Works
[11:19] employees were involved in the
[11:21] city celebrations of public
[11:22] works week. Several departments
[11:24] worked together to ensure the
[11:26] success of the event. Public
[11:29] works, communications, human
[11:31] resources, and leisure. The
[11:34] event was a resounding success,
[11:36] enjoyed by over 650 citizens of
[11:38] all ages. Congratulations to
[11:41] everyone. Now we invite Eric and
[11:46] Geneviève
[11:47] - Le discours a été -- écrit
[11:48] avant, je m'his excuse, partner
[11:50] in Geneviève... crime,
[11:52] In operating public works, is
[11:53] with him tonight to join me at
[11:55] the front to receive the plaque
[11:56] and to take photos.
[12:01] [Applause]
[12:40] (applaudissements)
[12:52] >> Question period.
[12:53] - Bon! Pour
[12:57] >> No, la période de no.
[12:59] Questions... je m'excuse.
[13:00] >> Not yet.
[13:01] Une photo? Je m'excuse. Oui, je
[13:02] m'excuse, O.K.!
[13:03] >> And Mister Mayor, before the
[13:04] adoption of the agenda, may I
[13:06] speak? As a city councillor for
[13:09] the city of Pointe-Claire, as
[13:10] well as the president of the
[13:12] Planning Advisory Committee, I
[13:14] feel it is essential that I
[13:15] stated the last Public council
[13:17] meeting, September 6th, 2022,
[13:21] that Councillor Aaron Tedford
[13:23] did not speak with on behalf of
[13:26] Council. They were her personal
[13:28] opinions, and I do not support
[13:29] the comments that she made. My
[13:31] position was duly expressed by
[13:33] my vote on the project. Thank
[13:35] you.
[13:38] >> Anybody else?
[13:41] >> I also agree that the
[13:44] comments made by Councillor
[13:46] Tedford did not reflect my
[13:48] feelings about the project, and
[13:50] my vote in favour of it was
[13:52] made, so I did not agree with
[13:53] what she said.
[13:57] >> Paul?
[13:59] >> At the last council meeting
[14:02] the intervention by Councillor
[14:04] Tedford, she did not speak on
[14:05] behalf of Council regarding via
[14:08] live your project. They were her
[14:11] personal opinions. I do not
[14:12] support the comments that were
[14:13] made. However, I did support the
[14:16] project. Thank you.
[14:21] >> Well, I did not vote in
[14:23] favour of the project my opinion
[14:27] deferred for hers as did my
[14:29] reasons and those were her own
[14:33] personal reasons.
[14:35] >> I actually take a slightly
[14:37] different position with regards
[14:39] to this issue. I commend
[14:44] Councillor Tedford for the work
[14:47] and effort she has put together
[14:48] in terms of reading the
[14:50] information that has been
[14:51] available to her in order to
[14:53] come to a conclusion. In her
[14:58] discussion regarding the
[15:00] project, she attempted to
[15:03] justify her vote and some
[15:08] substance behind the proposals
[15:09] that she made. She was given the
[15:13] information that she received
[15:14] through the city administration.
[15:16] She made her assessment on that
[15:18] basis. In that regard, I think
[15:22] that is commendable.
[15:28] - Les gens de Brigadoon, non,
[15:32] pardon les gens de Sotramont,
[15:33] c'est bel et bien reçu vos
[15:34] commentaires par courriel, je
[15:35] suis en train d'étudier ce que
[15:37] vous proposez, je suis en train
[15:38] de faire mes recherches pour
[15:39] comparer un peu les dossiers.
[15:44] >> Well, I feel compelled to say
[15:46] something. I will just say that
[15:48] I voted, I stand by my vote. I
[15:50] stand by my thinking, that
[15:52] support of that vote and I have
[15:54] no comment on what another
[15:56] Councillor may have said to
[16:00] substantiate their vote.
[16:02] >> One last one?
[16:03] >> Yes, go ahead.
[16:04] >> I concur with my fellow
[16:08] colleagues with Councillor
[16:10] Tedford's opinions were her own.
[16:11] My position was duly expressed
[16:12] by the way I voted. However, I
[16:16] do take wholehearted condone the
[16:20] actions last month. I think we
[16:21] could all do better. Thank you.
[16:25] >> I'd like to start by
[16:27] suggesting that after the vice
[16:29] president's behaviour last
[16:31] month, Sotramont should have
[16:35] written Council with an apology,
[16:36] not a demand for a retraction or
[16:39] sensor of a councillor who was
[16:40] explaining their vote. Their
[16:43] condo project had already been
[16:44] approved by a majority, by the
[16:47] majority counsel, and their
[16:48] demand to us seems to be another
[16:51] attempt to intimidate and
[16:53] silence debate just like the one
[16:55] we all witnessed at our last
[16:59] meeting. Councillor Tedford
[17:01] arrived at her conclusions and
[17:03] decided to vote based on careful
[17:05] research and reading of our
[17:07] bylaws and the documents
[17:09] presented to her by City staff.
[17:12] Due to my understanding she
[17:13] based her vote in opposition to
[17:18] the project, on three key if
[17:22] issues. Electrical car charges.
[17:25] Second, the project did not
[17:27] include first floor commercial
[17:28] place to provide amenities for
[17:33] residents such as a pharmacy or
[17:34] a deep honour. A special
[17:37] planning program for the city
[17:39] center. Finally, she did not
[17:43] want to approve the project in
[17:45] the absence of a final
[17:46] landscaping plan setting out
[17:48] where trees would be planted.
[17:50] This was because of Sotramont's
[17:54] track record of having cut trees
[17:55] on its line in 2014 in a process
[17:58] which began even before they
[17:59] were in granted the construction
[18:02] permit on the 20th. Previous
[18:05] council approved that phase of
[18:06] the project unanimously and did
[18:08] not fine Sotramont for cutting
[18:12] without a permit and presenting
[18:14] our arborist was done deal. I
[18:16] agree with Councillor Tedford's
[18:17] arguments, but even those who
[18:20] don't shouldn't support
[18:22] Sotramont's request it. We'll
[18:23] send a message that we condone
[18:24] the vice presidents unacceptable
[18:26] behaviour last month and that we
[18:27] don't allow the dissenting of
[18:31] opinions that are vital 20
[18:32] democracy. Thank you. Merci.
[18:38] >> The agenda.
[18:44] >> Approve the agenda with the
[18:46] following changes. Withdrawal of
[18:47] 01 - Ordre du jour 01.01
[18:48] Approuver l'ordre du jour
[18:53] l'10:08 and
[18:54] Approbation de l'ordre du jour
[18:55] avec le retrait des points 10.08
[19:03] et 30.01.
[19:04] - O.K..
[19:05] >> Okay. Approve the French and
[19:09] English versions? I
[19:10] >> Need a mover and a seconder.
[19:11] >> Oh, sorry. Do I have a mover?
[19:14] >> I move to approve the agenda.
[19:21] Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, district
[19:22] 3.
[19:23] >> Eric Stork, district 7.
[19:24] >> I like to propose an
[19:26] amendment to the agenda.
[19:29] >> Oh, it's. Off
[19:30] >> In keeping with your opening
[19:32] remarks I would like to propose
[19:34] agenda item 102, a motion of
[19:40] censure.
[19:47] The motion of censure when we
[19:49] come up it will be explained at
[19:52] the time if the motion is
[19:54] approved, if the amendment is
[19:58] approved.
[20:02] >> Oh okay,
[20:03] - 04.01?
[20:05] >> We have to go back with the
[20:07] approval of the agenda or not.
[20:11] [Inaudible]
[20:13] >> We're not centering, it's
[20:14] just putting it on the agenda to
[20:16] do that. That will. Calm but it
[20:17] needs to be seconded. The
[20:19] amendment needs to be seconded
[20:21] first.
[20:22] >> Just to be clear, Mister
[20:24] Councillor Cohen proposed an
[20:25] amendment to the agenda, to add
[20:28] a motion at 01.02, so we need to
[20:32] vote on that and then go back to
[20:34] the approval of the agenda
[20:35] without the amendment.
[20:38] >> Mister Mayor, yes, I would
[20:41] ask the City Clerk to explain
[20:43] the situation so the folks in
[20:45] the audience can understand what
[20:46] is exactly going on, thank you.
[20:49] >> We are at the approval of the
[20:52] agenda and before the boat there
[20:55] is a debate that on the
[20:56] proposition which is approve the
[20:58] agenda as presented by the City
[21:01] Clerk Oshawa office, with the
[21:02] agenda written by my staff that
[21:04] you have before you tonight and
[21:09] my understanding is Mr. Cohen
[21:11] wants to amend the agenda as
[21:15] proposed tonight. And he wants
[21:17] to add an amendment to the
[21:19] agenda by adding one 01.02. And
[21:22] you need to vote, as to add this
[21:27] item on the agenda and then you
[21:30] will go to majority. You go back
[21:32] to approval of the agenda with
[21:34] this amendment added.
[21:36] >> So we need a mover and
[21:38] seconder.
[21:39] >> For the amendment. First
[21:40] >> I moved it so we need to
[21:41] second it.
[21:43] >> Point of clarification,
[21:44] please. What is being censored?
[21:49] [Inaudible]
[22:00] >> Councillor Cohen --
[22:01] >> I can explain it, but --
[22:05] >> Motions censure.
[22:06] >> Well, people have to move,
[22:07] second, and vote. If people are
[22:10] going to move, second, and vote,
[22:11] they have to know what is being
[22:12] proposed.
[22:15] >> Mister Mayor, I just want to
[22:17] be clear here, Mr. Cohen
[22:21] proposed a motion to amend the
[22:25] agenda. So now we need to vote,
[22:27] we need a seconder on this
[22:30] amendment amendment and a vote.
[22:31] On this. That it.
[22:38] >> I'm just asking one it is.
[22:42] >> Tell us what it is.
[22:45] >> Point of order. This is just
[22:48] an agenda item. There's no
[22:50] explanation of an agenda item.
[22:53] That will come up during the
[22:54] discussion, if there is a
[22:55] discussion. If there is no
[22:57] discussion, then this item dies.
[22:59] If there is no second.
[23:04] [Inaudible]
[23:10] >> Just tell us what it. Is
[23:12] >> Will this motion be seconded?
[23:15] >> Yes, I second the motion of
[23:17] censure.
[23:18] >> All in favour?
[23:19] >> Take your hands off me.
[23:23] >> Against?
[23:26] >> And now we go back to the
[23:27] rule of the agenda with the
[23:30] amendment, and the withdrawal of
[23:39] 10.08 and 30.01 an. And
[23:40] >> I move to accept,.
[23:47] >> Eric Stork, district 7.
[23:50] >> We need to vote.
[23:51] >> All in favour?
[23:52] >> I thought we did. That, okay.
[23:54] >> Against?
[23:59] >> Who's against?
[24:00] - Personne? Non, non, mais...
[24:02] >> Mr. Tremblay,
[24:05] I didn't see you vote. To the
[24:08] approval of the agenda
[24:11] L'approbation de l'ordre du
[24:12] jour..
[24:16] You are against? And Mister
[24:17] Mayor, you didn't vote?
[24:19] >> No.
[24:20] >>
[24:21] - Okay. I'm not non.
[24:22] - O.K.. Clear on what we're
[24:23] voting on here.
[24:24] Yes, thank you. I think there
[24:25] are more than two. Okay.
[24:36] >> 01.02? Motion of censure?
[24:37] >> I'm prepared to read the
[24:39] motion. Motion is as follows.
[24:42] Whereas in accordance with mayor
[24:45] Thomas's instruction on
[24:48] Wednesday 21st of September his
[24:49] office disseminated an email
[24:50] communicate to Council
[24:51] throughout the city
[24:52] administration and to certain
[24:54] members of the general public.
[24:55] The purpose of which was to
[24:56] distribute as an attachment a
[24:58] private email exchange between
[25:02] Mr. Bryan green way and mayor
[25:04] Thomas. Whereas detachment
[25:05] included statements where he
[25:08] defamed a colleague on Council
[25:09] and cast aspersions on the
[25:13] replays environment in which he
[25:14] finds himself, administration
[25:16] and Council might hold
[25:18] responsible which is a clear
[25:19] violation of ethical values.
[25:22] Whereas Mayor Thomas has refused
[25:24] to take full responsibility for
[25:25] his reach of our norms of
[25:27] ethical conduct and issue a
[25:29] personal apology. Be resolved
[25:30] that this council expresses is
[25:34] profound regret that mayor
[25:35] Thomas cause to be transmitted
[25:37] to the administration the
[25:39] aforesaid email exchange wherein
[25:41] he employed defamatory and
[25:43] disloyal language, thereby
[25:46] causing hurt and distress, and a
[25:47] shot to displeasure that Mayor
[25:49] Thomas has rejected his duty to
[25:50] accept the full responsibility
[25:51] for this act and has equally
[25:53] rejected the simple remedy of
[25:56] issuing a personal apology.
[26:00] >> French version, please
[26:03] - En. Français, s'il vous plaît?
[26:04] -
[26:05] >> En français, s'il vous plaît?
[26:06] Pardon, me at the
[26:07] Beginning, Mr. Thomas, may I
[26:09] speak? At the beginning of the
[26:10] Mr. Thomas you said you would
[26:12] remove offender behaviour.
[26:16] >> Excuse Moore, Councillor
[26:17] Thorstad-Cullen, that's my call,
[26:18] not yours, thank you very much.
[26:19] What I will do is respond to
[26:21] what some of your confusions
[26:23] are.
[26:25] >> Mister Mayor, maybe we should
[26:26] take a break to discuss the
[26:28] French version of the amendment.
[26:29] >> Okay.
[26:31] >> I think we should take a
[26:32] break.
[26:33] >> Just, before we do that, part
[26:34] of the procedure is, this is the
[26:36] motion that has just been read,
[26:37] I am moving, it it has to be
[26:39] seconded, and then normally we
[26:40] would have a discussion.
[26:46] - On l'a pas eue en français.
[26:48] - On va prendre quelques
[26:49] instants, on va ajourner la
[26:51] session, on va vous revenir, je
[26:53] pense que j'apprécierais qu'on
[26:54] prenne un petit instant.
[40:29] (bruits)
[40:56] - Bon. When
[40:58] We left, Mr. Cohen moved his
[41:01] proposition. We need a seconder.
[41:07] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[41:08] district three.
[41:11] >> No. Mr. --
[41:20] >> Let's be respectful.
[41:23] >> I am. I respect Québec.
[41:26] [Inaudible]
[41:32] >> That's why it's inadmissible.
[41:44] >> Est-ce qu'on entend la
[41:45] version en français? I'll read
[41:46] both again. Whereas in
[41:47] Accordance with mayor Thomas his
[41:49] instructions on Wednesday --
[41:51] just the French. We already
[41:53] heard the English.
[42:22] On a
[42:23] (problème technique)
[42:24] Entendu que la pièce jointe
[42:26] contenait des déclarations dans
[42:31] lequel le maire monsieur Thomas
[42:35] J. est le discrédit sur son
[42:37] milieu de travail ainsi que des
[42:40] membres de l'administration qui
[42:41] pourrait être responsable, ce
[42:45] qui consiste en une
[42:49] manifestation
[42:50] (---)
[42:51] l'entière responsabilité de
[42:52] cette transgression de nos
[42:53] normes de conduite éthique et de
[42:55] présenter des excuses
[42:57] personnelles. Il est résolu que
[42:59] le conseil exprime son profond
[43:01] regret que le maire Thomas tient
[43:04] à transmettre à l'administration
[43:05] et au grand public et l'échange
[43:07] de courriels susmentionnés dans
[43:10] lequel il a employé un langage
[43:13] diffamatoire et déloyales
[43:15] causant ainsi de la désolation
[43:16] et de la détresse, de même que
[43:19] son vive mécontentement face au
[43:21] maire Thomas pour avoir manqué à
[43:23] son devoir d'accepter l'entière
[43:25] responsabilité de cet acte et a
[43:27] refusé d'y remédier à la
[43:30] présentation d'excuses
[43:31] personnelles.
[43:39] >>
[43:40] We need a vote.
[43:41] >> No.
[43:42] >> Mr. Cohen, first move. -- we
[43:48] need a vote now.
[43:49] >> All in favour? Against? Okay.
[43:54] >> May I speak, Mister Mayor?
[43:56] >> Absolutely.
[43:57] >> While I deplore any kind of
[44:02] harmful exchanges on email
[44:04] whether through intimidation, et
[44:05] cetera, et cetera -- I also
[44:09] deplore the tactics and
[44:11] procedural approaches taken
[44:12] tonight in order to resolve this
[44:15] issue in a public forum of this
[44:17] sort. For that reason, I voted
[44:18] against.
[44:22] >> You shouldn't yell out.
[44:27] Mister --, could I recommend
[44:28] that you wait until west period?
[44:34] Please, or we will have to ask
[44:35] you to leave. Okay. Please
[44:39] refrain from any more comments.
[44:43] Sir. Mr. sorrow, you are not
[44:45] leaving the must choice.
[44:54] >> You are afraid to have a
[44:55] response.
[44:56] [Inaudible]
[45:01] >> Mr.. Okay.
[45:14] Well, it's a first for me. Okay.
[45:17] Madame Thibault, -- Madame
[45:20] Thibault... qu'est-ce qu'on va
[45:21] faire maintenant?
[45:27] >> I'd like to respond.
[45:28] - 04.01. I'll try
[45:31] And bring a little human speak
[45:33] to the room. What's being
[45:35] referred to here was an
[45:37] occurrence that occurred a
[45:39] couple weeks ago. I woke up one
[45:41] morning in my personal home and
[45:45] I was sent an email by my friend
[45:46] who I had invited and had
[45:49] performed at the West Island
[45:50] blues fest, in Pointe-Claire. He
[45:52] wrote me, he's a good friend.
[45:57] We've had various exchanges
[45:58] along the way. We talked about
[46:00] the show, what he was going to
[46:01] do, how he felt about it. We've
[46:03] had some feedback. We've had
[46:05] various long conversations in
[46:06] email on my private home. I woke
[46:10] up one morning after the blues
[46:13] festival, a couple days after,
[46:14] and Bryan wrote this: hi, Tim. I
[46:18] wanted to mention to you what a
[46:19] perfect choice the venue was for
[46:21] the West Island blues festival
[46:22] in -- the park itself became but
[46:26] -- came into being a centerpiece
[46:28] with the surrounding buildings
[46:30] tastefully lighted, accentuating
[46:32] the parameters of the park,
[46:34] leaving a nice feeling of being
[46:35] in a public square. The Billings
[46:38] themselves lent a hand in giving
[46:40] wonderful reflection from the
[46:41] sound system and crowd control.
[46:43] The addition of blocking off the
[46:46] intersection of Cartier and
[46:47] Lakeshore also contributed to
[46:49] the safety of the public, with
[46:51] the overflow of people into the
[46:53] streets -- the flow of attendees
[46:55] and go freely to all the
[46:57] festival sites and vendors. We
[46:59] can thank you enough and the
[47:02] city of Pointe-Claire staff for
[47:03] doing such a perfect job of
[47:05] creating a beautiful summer
[47:06] night in a music festival
[47:07] setting. From the perspective of
[47:10] a seasoned professional, many
[47:11] artists perform there at night,
[47:12] it could not have been better
[47:14] prepared. Perfect sound and
[47:16] lighting systems with good
[47:18] security for backstage access.
[47:19] Thank you again. Ryan Greenaway,
[47:22] April one. Member of the
[47:26] Canadian music hall of fame. I
[47:27] was thrilled when I received
[47:29] that. He put such work into it
[47:31] and care into the writing of it.
[47:34] I was so excited. I wanted all
[47:36] the people -- not everybody, not
[47:38] all the staff -- and know
[47:41] certain members of the grand
[47:42] public, I sent an email
[47:44] specifically to the staff who
[47:45] provided that event. I wanted
[47:49] them to know, to get this letter
[47:52] from a rock star, knowing that
[47:54] such an experienced man a
[47:56] appreciated their efforts. I was
[47:58] thrilled and excited so I
[47:59] forwarded the email from my we
[48:02] personal computer to my work
[48:04] computer. First time I've done
[48:05] this. I won't do it again. I
[48:07] said, Teresa, please send this
[48:09] to public works. Security,
[48:11] leisure. All the people in those
[48:14] departments are responsible for
[48:16] the event. They know how much I
[48:17] appreciate them and what this
[48:19] person thinks of their efforts.
[48:21] And Teresa sent it.
[48:24] Unfortunately, unbeknownst to
[48:28] me, 20 minutes later she came
[48:29] and said, unfortunately, there
[48:33] is a whole email exchange you
[48:35] had had with Mr. Greenaway
[48:38] attached below that message.
[48:39] That went out to the staff. A
[48:40] rookie mistake. Motives were
[48:45] good but it went out to the
[48:46] staff. That being said, we try
[48:48] to pull it back immediately. But
[48:49] it was forwarded and exchanged.
[48:52] I let it said for a couple days.
[48:56] As is my procedure, I don't know
[48:59] what I should do with something
[49:00] -- I sit on it and ruminate.
[49:04] Then I started talking to staff
[49:06] and how they felt. Some giggled.
[49:10] It wasn't a horrendous thing. It
[49:14] was not nice but it wasn't a
[49:16] horrendous thing. It was a
[49:17] personal exchange that should
[49:18] not have gotten out there. I
[49:20] wouldn't have put it out there
[49:21] had I not known they were going
[49:22] public -- I made a boo-boo. I
[49:27] asked if if they were offended.
[49:29] All the staff I consulted said
[49:31] no. That it was unfortunate and
[49:35] people reprimanded me with, my
[49:38] clearly -- clumsiness of using
[49:39] email, which I deserve. And
[49:41] that's where I let it sit for me
[49:44] and that is where it sits
[49:46] tonight. That's why you have
[49:48] heard what you have heard.
[49:49] >> I have a comment, please. --
[49:52] >> Whether you like it or not.
[49:53] >> You know what?
[49:56] >> I will be provided a list of
[49:57] city employees.
[49:59] >> Councillor Cowan already
[50:00] spoke.
[50:02] >> I'm entitled to speak. Mr.
[50:04] Thomas, I would like to be
[50:06] provided a list -- that agreed
[50:08] with your statement. That is
[50:09] false.
[50:13] >> Well. That's not the ones I'm
[50:15] talking to. There we go.
[50:17] >> Where do we go from here? We
[50:19] go to --
[50:22] >> I simply -- why we put this
[50:26] motion out is because the
[50:27] majority of Council wanted to
[50:30] apologize to our city employees.
[50:32] We need to uphold our code of
[50:34] ethics, our behaviour, our
[50:37] civility, our baseline level of
[50:38] respect. We felt that the city
[50:44] of Pointe-Claire employees
[50:45] deserves at least an apology on
[50:47] our part that is simply all it
[50:48] is.
[50:52] >> Okay.
[50:53] >> As the mover, I have one last
[50:54] comment.
[50:57] >> You had enough to say.
[50:58] >> This would've been
[50:59] unnecessary if the mayor was
[51:01] were approached through asking
[51:02] to do the right thing for the
[51:04] last week and he refused. That
[51:05] made it necessary to do what we
[51:06] are doing tonight.
[51:09] >> I did not refuse. I consulted
[51:10] others. I was told it was not
[51:13] necessary. Where do we go from
[51:15] here? Do we go to question
[51:20] period? Do we approve the French
[51:21] and --
[51:25] - Qu'est-ce 04.01 Approuver les
[51:26] versions françaises et les
[51:27] versions anglaises des
[51:28] procès-verbaux de la séance
[51:29] ordinaire du 6 septembre 2022 et
[51:30] de la séance extraordinaire du
[51:31] 13 septembre 2022.
[51:32] >> Do I have a mover?
[51:33] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[51:35] District three.
[51:36] >> And seconder?
[51:37] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[51:38] >> All in favour?
[51:42] - Question period.!.,,.
[52:01] (---)
[52:04] . For a question period, we
[52:09] shall stick to the 90 minute
[52:12] limit for that question period
[52:13] as has been done in the past. We
[52:14] will begin with questions from
[52:16] Pointe-Claire residents and
[52:17] address Questions from the
[52:18] developers only after these have
[52:19] been answered. If the developers
[52:20] questions are not redundant.
[52:26] >> This is about council
[52:27] meetings. Okay. You are talking
[52:32] at the beginning. I feel Council
[52:35] meetings are far too long.
[52:37] Other people feel so as well.
[52:40] Those who most likely voted for
[52:41] you to go on at length far too
[52:44] long, you don't often answer.
[52:46] You instead you like to talk
[52:47] about your own accomplishments.
[52:49] Citizens need a time-limited
[52:52] question period. Your answers
[52:54] should only pertain to City
[52:55] business. You can answer yes or
[52:58] no to time limits for questions
[52:59] and answers.
[53:02] >> Would I like some?
[53:04] >> Yes or no?
[53:05] >> Yeah, absolutely. In your
[53:08] instance especially.
[53:09] >> Okay. Thank you. I won't go
[53:12] on very long.
[53:13] >> You don't go on very long?
[53:16] Okay. We will deal with that in
[53:18] a second.
[53:19] >> No, we are not going to deal
[53:20] with that.
[53:21] >> We will do whatever I will
[53:23] decide on that one.
[53:25] >> At last council meeting, I
[53:26] asked about you having a
[53:28] political adviser. No answer was
[53:30] given. Instead you reacted and
[53:33] responded that you didn't know
[53:34] what to do -- was that a threat
[53:36] or a condescending remark?
[53:40] >> Miss Weaver, you are so
[53:43] perplexing in your questions
[53:44] that I sometimes don't know what
[53:45] to do with you. Your question
[53:48] about the political adviser was
[53:51] particularly interesting because
[53:53] I've been a paid political
[53:54] advisor at a much higher level.
[53:56] The person who was accused of
[53:58] being my political advisor was
[53:59] in fact my former student. I
[54:01] would never pay him to be my
[54:03] political adviser, I promise. I
[54:05] found the question perplexing.
[54:08] Bordering on absurd-ism.
[54:12] Regarding people who go on too
[54:13] long, and those who voted for
[54:16] you, Miss Weaver, that's really
[54:18] interesting. I have allowed you
[54:19] so much time at the microphone.
[54:22] That's kind of disingenuous and
[54:25] doesn't hold much water. That's
[54:27] my answer.
[54:28] >> My question was, was it a
[54:29] threat or a condescending remark
[54:31] when you wanted --
[54:34] >> No threat nor condescending
[54:35] remark. I explained it, Miss
[54:36] Weaver, I said it was
[54:37] perplexing. Thank you, Miss
[54:39] Weaver. Do you have a question?
[54:40] You have another question?
[54:41] >> I have a copy.
[54:43] >> You have two questions.
[54:45] You've asked one. Miss Weaver,
[54:47] you have two questions. You've
[54:49] asked one. Okay, thank you.
[54:50] Thank you.
[54:54] >> So, it was a threat?
[55:02] >> Hi. We are -- Ron Williams
[55:07] from -- in the Cedar Park
[55:08] district. The point we wanted to
[55:14] bring up today is a follow-up
[55:16] concerning a question that we
[55:18] raised at a meeting in the early
[55:21] spring, relative to that
[55:23] instruction of the green
[55:25] triangle in the middle of
[55:28] Killarney gardens, our street.
[55:30] It's a replacement with a gravel
[55:32] parking lot for the making of
[55:33] the film in a nearby house. The
[55:37] neighbours were shocked. We
[55:39] formally asked the City to
[55:40] repair the damage. They said you
[55:45] would, you said you would. And
[55:46] you did. The job was completed
[55:51] about six weeks ago. It's a
[55:53] beautiful piece of work. It's
[55:55] well created, well spotted.
[55:58] People started playing ball and
[56:00] so on on the green. All the
[56:03] neighbours we've spoken with are
[56:05] very happy with the result. We
[56:07] wanted to thank, particularly,
[56:08] Mayor Tim Thomas, Councillor for
[56:15] our district, Erin Tedford, and
[56:17] all members of Council for
[56:18] approving these repairs. And we
[56:21] know that employees from several
[56:24] departments at the City were
[56:25] involved. We are not sure how
[56:28] many developed mince. And the
[56:30] contractor, north strung, did a
[56:33] nice job. It wasn't easy with --
[56:35] a lot of gravel, very heavy work
[56:37] done. We think this is
[56:42] particularly important for
[56:45] Pointe-Claire, which prides
[56:45] itself on being a green city. We
[56:50] think that Pointe-Claire should
[56:51] be a champion of sustainable
[56:52] development. The basic
[56:56] principles of which include
[56:58] protection of flora and fauna,
[57:01] particularly green areas and
[57:02] naturally forested areas. In all
[57:08] the projects the City undertakes
[57:11] and all the private projects it
[57:12] approves. Other major issues,
[57:17] water retention and management,
[57:19] respect for heritage values, and
[57:22] protection of the environment
[57:23] and the citizens from pollution
[57:26] and toxic materials.
[57:33] >> To follow up on our
[57:36] experience with the green
[57:41] becoming an enormous -- for a
[57:43] movie company, we were looking
[57:45] to the future, that our green
[57:50] space -- it could be called
[57:53] Killarney green. Like we have
[57:55] the bowling green. We have many
[57:56] green spaces in Pointe-Claire.
[57:59] We look to council as you are
[58:03] our policy makers, our leaders
[58:05] in Pointe-Claire, that you come
[58:08] to terms with the fact that
[58:11] every green space in
[58:12] Pointe-Claire is precious to the
[58:14] residents who reside around
[58:15] them. And that an effort should
[58:19] be made -- selfishly, in our
[58:21] case -- that you protect our
[58:23] little green space and you put
[58:25] it on your city planning map as
[58:29] green. Right now, it is white,
[58:31] which means anything can happen.
[58:34] In fact, when we bought our
[58:36] property, that was a question we
[58:38] asked. Can anybody build on this
[58:40] green space? We were told, no,
[58:43] no, nobody will do anything. We
[58:47] think there should be concerted
[58:49] efforts by this city fathers and
[58:53] others to really protect, a
[58:58] status that will protect these
[58:59] green spaces so that no film
[59:02] company or whatever can come in
[59:04] and just wipe it out. This is my
[59:07] question to you. Will you please
[59:11] consider this status for the
[59:17] green space to become a
[59:19] permanent status, whereby it can
[59:21] never be encroached again in
[59:25] this manner? Thank you.
[59:26] >> Thank you.
[59:27] [Applause]
[59:30] I can't speak for Council. I'm
[59:32] pretty confident that's an
[59:35] excellent suggestion to have it
[59:37] zoned green as opposed to white,
[59:38] I think, there is no reason why
[59:40] that shouldn't happen. It makes
[59:42] complete sense to me. It can't
[59:43] be developed upon. Yes.
[59:55] >> I wanted to talk about the
[59:58] soil trauma development. We've
[1:00:02] had a lot of talk about how the
[1:00:06] city of Pointe-Claire has to
[1:00:08] follow the guidelines of the p
[1:00:12] math in's our bylaws and zoning
[1:00:16] bylaws like regulations.
[1:00:19] However, that the math has a
[1:00:22] special criteria on page 90 in
[1:00:25] the for the tide areas -- that
[1:00:27] is the areas close to transit
[1:00:31] hub and it says they would like
[1:00:33] to have a gradation from the
[1:00:36] access point that is access to
[1:00:39] the transit stations -- slot
[1:00:41] development is maximized while
[1:00:43] respecting local landscape and
[1:00:45] natural environment, promoting
[1:00:47] diversity and a better
[1:00:48] horizontal and vertical -- so
[1:00:52] forth. To cultivate a dynamic
[1:00:57] community life while adapting to
[1:01:00] the landscaping of the --
[1:01:03] managing storm water runoff. The
[1:01:09] development in the area in
[1:01:12] Sotramont does not respect any
[1:01:13] of these. And the high-rises are
[1:01:14] next to family homes. The areas
[1:01:18] with Sotramont the residential
[1:01:19] housing on land are raised up by
[1:01:22] tens of landfill -- educate --
[1:01:25] above all the surrounding areas.
[1:01:27] With inadequate water retention
[1:01:30] facilities for we -- the result
[1:01:32] is major flooding problems for
[1:01:34] the neighbouring lots,
[1:01:35] especially the established lots,
[1:01:37] and the older houses surrounding
[1:01:39] are having terrible problems.
[1:01:42] The standing with a lot and
[1:01:44] seasonal wetland was completely
[1:01:46] clear cut and landfilled. The
[1:01:50] two acres given to the city were
[1:01:53] left flooded for over a year.
[1:01:55] All the trees are dead. In that
[1:01:58] area, and the only trees that I
[1:02:00] know of are now on city land. I
[1:02:02] don't think there are any trees
[1:02:03] on the private property left.
[1:02:07] Just in the fronts and backs of
[1:02:09] the sidewalks. I would like to
[1:02:13] know, you said in your preamble
[1:02:16] that Sotramont preceded with a
[1:02:18] clear cutting of the trees
[1:02:19] before they had a permit. Is
[1:02:24] that so? Were they find?
[1:02:25] >> I don't know the specifics on
[1:02:26] that. From what I understand,
[1:02:29] they were fined. We this was
[1:02:31] before my. Time I'm going on
[1:02:33] what Councillor Tedford
[1:02:34] researched. I will turn that one
[1:02:36] over to Mr. Sydney who knows the
[1:02:37] issue and it was there at the
[1:02:38] time.
[1:02:40] >> By August 2019, the entire
[1:02:44] area of -- was completely clear
[1:02:47] cut and bulldozers were moving
[1:02:49] at landfill in. In fact, the
[1:02:50] trees that were given to the
[1:02:52] city, that's stretch of land
[1:02:55] between Park and Austin, which
[1:02:56] is supposed to be the parks and
[1:02:59] recreation levy, they were
[1:03:02] bulldozing landfill up against
[1:03:03] the trees. An entire line of
[1:03:05] trees, which supposedly belongs
[1:03:07] to the city of Pointe-Claire
[1:03:08] now, had landfills bulldozed up
[1:03:10] against it. About this high.
[1:03:16] Those trees were dead instantly.
[1:03:18] No tree can survive that. The
[1:03:22] rest were left and flooded land
[1:03:23] for over a year and they all
[1:03:24] died. I mean, the trees they cut
[1:03:29] down in the whole area north of
[1:03:31] there, did they do that with a
[1:03:32] permit?
[1:03:35] >> Since day one, we've been
[1:03:38] negotiating almost on a weekly
[1:03:40] basis with the Sotramont
[1:03:42] executives. It's still going on.
[1:03:45] All the trees that have been cut
[1:03:47] have to be replaced. Of course,
[1:03:52] the trees that were cut, some of
[1:03:53] them were quite, they were
[1:03:57] mature trees but they are being
[1:03:58] replaced by younger tree. We are
[1:04:02] still negotiating with
[1:04:03] Sotramont, to make sure that
[1:04:04] they will respect everything
[1:04:08] that has been put on their
[1:04:09] plans. We have negotiated with
[1:04:15] them and it still going on. We
[1:04:20] even had a meeting the last week
[1:04:21] with them as well. Every time we
[1:04:27] go for visits, all our directors
[1:04:30] for public works, engineering,
[1:04:33] public security, urban planning,
[1:04:36] every time we have something to
[1:04:39] negotiate, we sit down before,
[1:04:40] we look at what still has to be
[1:04:43] done in the Greenwich village
[1:04:46] and we asked Sotramont to
[1:04:48] correct what has to be
[1:04:49] corrected.
[1:04:51] >> Why are you negotiating with
[1:04:52] them and not just finding them?
[1:04:56] >> Right now, it's just that
[1:04:58] they still have the chance to
[1:05:00] correct whatever has to be
[1:05:01] corrected. If it's not
[1:05:02] corrected, they will be fined.
[1:05:05] >> I had a beautiful --
[1:05:08] >> That's two questions.
[1:05:10] >> Okay. But I had a beautiful
[1:05:12] spruce tree on my property,
[1:05:13] huge, old spruce tree. I liked
[1:05:15] it very much. However, in that
[1:05:18] wind, the root lifted out of the
[1:05:19] ground. I consulted and arborist
[1:05:22] and was told the tree is doomed.
[1:05:25] It's a danger. You have to cut
[1:05:28] it down. The city said we have
[1:05:29] to send an inspector. You need
[1:05:31] to get a permit. Even if the
[1:05:33] tree is a danger, if you cut it
[1:05:35] down before you get a permit, we
[1:05:37] will find you and make you
[1:05:38] replace it. The city was set to
[1:05:42] find me and make me replace the
[1:05:45] tree. Why not Sotramont?
[1:05:50] >> You've had to. There we go.
[1:05:56] >> From district A. Good evening
[1:06:00] attendance and Council. I've got
[1:06:05] two preamble's into questions
[1:06:06] directed to you, Mister Mayor.
[1:06:09] >> Sir, the preamble has got us
[1:06:12] nervous. You've given us a lot
[1:06:13] of preamble of the last couple
[1:06:15] of meetings. We know your facts
[1:06:16] for sure. You presented a long
[1:06:18] --
[1:06:20] >> I will be quick.
[1:06:21] >> Can you adjust the
[1:06:22] microphone, please?
[1:06:24] >> I will be brief. My first --
[1:06:28] so my questions are presenting
[1:06:31] this citizens effort to get the
[1:06:32] city of Pointe-Claire to pass a
[1:06:35] resolution to get -- a stop --
[1:06:41] water Plante. The first point is
[1:06:46] a document I received through
[1:06:48] access to information from the
[1:06:49] City of Montréal, which I
[1:06:51] forwarded to every member of
[1:06:52] Council this morning. This
[1:06:56] document says that the
[1:06:59] fluoridation chemical that's
[1:07:00] added to Pointe-Claire's water
[1:07:03] -- contaminated with trace
[1:07:04] levels of arsenic and lead.
[1:07:06] Talking about a green city. What
[1:07:09] green city adds trace levels of
[1:07:12] arsenic and lead to their
[1:07:13] drinking water intentionally?
[1:07:14] The question with that is, how
[1:07:15] long should Pointe-Claire
[1:07:17] residents continue drinking
[1:07:18] water laced intentionally with
[1:07:19] arsenic and lead? The second
[1:07:24] point is, we are at 3600
[1:07:27] signatures of residents who live
[1:07:28] in Pointe-Claire. That's the
[1:07:32] petition part. Of the survey
[1:07:33] part, 1080 households who were
[1:07:37] asked to choose between yes and
[1:07:40] no we, household consecutively,
[1:07:42] 76% of them have decided err on
[1:07:46] the side of caution and do not
[1:07:49] want fluoridation chemicals
[1:07:51] added to the drinking water. Are
[1:07:52] you going to ignore 3600
[1:07:55] residents of Pointe-Claire?
[1:07:59] That's over 13% of
[1:08:00] Pointe-Claire's voting
[1:08:01] population. The question to that
[1:08:04] point is, would you put this
[1:08:10] topic on the agenda to be voted
[1:08:11] on? Today, you said that he
[1:08:17] would be mentioning silencing
[1:08:19] debate. This seems like this is
[1:08:21] being silenced. You also
[1:08:23] mentioned democracy. I think
[1:08:24] freedom of consent, people being
[1:08:27] medicated without consent with
[1:08:29] fluoridation -- substances laced
[1:08:34] with lead and arsenic, I mean,
[1:08:38] we aim for 0% lead and arsenic
[1:08:40] in drinking water. On top of
[1:08:42] that lead already being reached
[1:08:46] out of pipes from the -- to the
[1:08:47] drinking water.
[1:08:49] >> Okay.
[1:08:51] >> I was collecting signatures
[1:08:53] -- mothers telling me children
[1:08:54] are still getting dental -- it
[1:08:57] costs about $1,000 a tooth to
[1:09:00] recap. I met a 15-year-old girl
[1:09:02] who is to shied a smile because
[1:09:04] her teeth are damaged
[1:09:06] permanently because of this
[1:09:08] fluoridation chemical. We
[1:09:09] shouldn't have to worry about
[1:09:11] children overdosing on tap
[1:09:12] water, especially tap water
[1:09:13] laced with arsenic and lead.
[1:09:14] People are appalled to see this
[1:09:15] document. I'm taking this
[1:09:17] door-to-door. I don't want to go
[1:09:19] to court. To successfully won in
[1:09:22] court in other places in Canada.
[1:09:24] Pointe-Claire is the last place
[1:09:27] too -- the last play that's
[1:09:28] gonna be fluoridation in the
[1:09:29] entire province. -- being added
[1:09:34] intentionally to drinking water.
[1:09:35] Mind you, trace levels. We don't
[1:09:38] have that in any other food or
[1:09:39] drug product. That's a two
[1:09:41] questions.
[1:09:43] >> Okay.
[1:09:45] >> How long should --
[1:09:47] [Applause]
[1:09:50] How long should Pointe-Claire
[1:09:52] citizens have to drink water
[1:09:53] laced with arsenic and lead
[1:09:55] intentionally? Are you going to
[1:09:58] ignore 3600 and counting
[1:10:01] individuals, 13% of
[1:10:03] Pointe-Claire's voting
[1:10:04] population by not putting this
[1:10:05] on the agenda?
[1:10:08] >> We won't do anything that
[1:10:12] goes against the wishes of the
[1:10:13] entire majority of Pointe-Claire
[1:10:14] citizens. Everybody who moved to
[1:10:17] Pointe-Claire is aware of the
[1:10:18] water in Pointe-Claire. It's
[1:10:19] been there for a very, very,
[1:10:21] very long time. Our water, of
[1:10:24] course, I'm answering now,
[1:10:25] you've had your questions. We
[1:10:27] won't get into a debate here.
[1:10:32] People -- parents aren't
[1:10:34] willingly having their children
[1:10:37] drink water that, quote, laced
[1:10:39] with arsenic and lead. That's a
[1:10:41] bit dramatic. Laced with arsenic
[1:10:42] and lead. In other words,
[1:10:44] deliberately put in there to
[1:10:46] harm children. I can't see the
[1:10:48] bulk of the people running water
[1:10:50] in the Anglo or anywhere -- I
[1:10:53] have to think that -- and I
[1:10:57] don't know the science, maybe
[1:10:58] not as well as you do -- I am
[1:11:03] certainly willing to hear and
[1:11:05] study more the issue and hear
[1:11:07] the science. I think we all are.
[1:11:08] All of us of here are perfectly
[1:11:10] willing to hear the science. The
[1:11:12] science is not yet fully
[1:11:14] unanimous on the. It's not even
[1:11:16] -- it's still highly debatable.
[1:11:19] Myself, personally, I'm not an
[1:11:20] expert in this stuff. I will do
[1:11:24] what the majority -- I will
[1:11:27] promote -- because I can't do --
[1:11:28] but I will promote with the
[1:11:29] majority of my citizens want. If
[1:11:31] I hear an expression of
[1:11:33] unanimous expression one way or
[1:11:35] the other I will certainly
[1:11:36] advocate. There are a lot of
[1:11:38] people that are aware of
[1:11:39] Pointe-Claire's water and have
[1:11:43] no qualms and don't fear it. I
[1:11:46] don't know what the proportions
[1:11:47] are. I am willing to listen and
[1:11:50] try and understand what the
[1:11:52] proper solution to this is. I
[1:11:54] can't imagine that we, in all
[1:11:56] this time, are deliberately
[1:11:57] hurting children or trying to
[1:11:59] hurt ourselves. I can't imagine
[1:12:00] that. What I think and how the
[1:12:04] people delivering the water --
[1:12:07] it goes against what I think
[1:12:09] their motives are. I can't
[1:12:10] imagine it. I find the language
[1:12:14] dramatic I. Do except the
[1:12:15] possibility that we may move
[1:12:17] away from fluoridation. I'm not
[1:12:18] sure. I'm not an expert in it.
[1:12:21] I've certainly been fair and
[1:12:22] allowed you to express yourself.
[1:12:25] I don't feel you've been
[1:12:27] silenced. That people are doing
[1:12:28] things without consent. I think
[1:12:30] it's out in the open, this
[1:12:32] issue. I think you are debating
[1:12:34] it right now. I applaud you for
[1:12:36] doing so. I will continue to do
[1:12:38] so. Hopefully, we will come out
[1:12:39] on the right side of this issue,
[1:12:41] whichever way it is. I don't
[1:12:42] have one side or the other, to
[1:12:43] be honest with you.
[1:12:46] >> You have that email with the
[1:12:47] ingredients. It says it on line
[1:12:49] number five, heavy metal,
[1:12:50] arsenic, and led. We it's
[1:12:51] written there.
[1:12:54] >> Thank you. I don't think it's
[1:12:59] laced. Ma'am, can I ask you to
[1:13:03] get in line. We are not allowing
[1:13:05] people to shout out from the
[1:13:07] audience anymore. We Mr. Searle
[1:13:10] has already left the premises
[1:13:11] for doing so. Yes, sir.
[1:13:15] >> Good evening. My name is Paul
[1:13:17] Atkinson. I live -- in
[1:13:18] Pointe-Claire. I'm here with
[1:13:20] neighbours tonight. Last month,
[1:13:23] I came to Council to voice
[1:13:25] concerns about the -- properties
[1:13:28] between the Sotramont project
[1:13:30] and houses on Alston.
[1:13:31] >> Could I ask people to stop
[1:13:33] talking while the gentleman asks
[1:13:34] his question? Just that a
[1:13:35] courtesy. I can't hear him very
[1:13:36] well.
[1:13:38] >> Mister Atkinson, can you move
[1:13:40] the mic -- lift that Mike
[1:13:41] further up. It's a bit too low.
[1:13:45] [Laughs]
[1:13:48] >> As I mentioned that evening
[1:13:49] last month, a house on Alston
[1:13:53] flooded last April with four
[1:13:54] feet of water accumulating in
[1:13:56] the basement of an elderly
[1:13:57] couple. They had to evacuate
[1:13:58] their house for weeks. The city,
[1:14:00] at the time, told us it was
[1:14:03] because Sotramont had failed to
[1:14:05] complete the ditch. Following
[1:14:06] the meeting last month, the
[1:14:07] residents of Alston, we met with
[1:14:08] our neighbours in the Greenwich
[1:14:10] Cartier, Cartier Greenwich. One
[1:14:13] of the town houses also flooded
[1:14:16] last spring. One resident, whose
[1:14:18] town house flooded twice, has
[1:14:20] two children under five. This
[1:14:22] reinforces what I stated about
[1:14:24] flooding being a south --
[1:14:25] particularly for children and
[1:14:26] the elderly. With winter coming
[1:14:30] and a heavy snowfall predicted,
[1:14:31] we are fearful that flooding
[1:14:33] will occur again next spring.
[1:14:35] Thankfully, we are able to meet
[1:14:37] with officials from the City.
[1:14:38] Namely, Daniel say gay and Tim
[1:14:42] Thomas. We thank Mr. say again
[1:14:46] for his --
[1:14:47] >> Eric was there as well.
[1:14:51] >> Collectively, we would like
[1:14:52] to thank you both for taking the
[1:14:54] time to meet us on site and with
[1:14:57] our insurance. Councillor
[1:14:59] Stainforth is unavailable, but
[1:15:01] was at the similar meeting. We
[1:15:02] are happy to oblige. As a
[1:15:04] collective group of residents,
[1:15:06] today we submitted a written
[1:15:07] request for the City to hire an
[1:15:09] outside firm to evaluate the --
[1:15:11] one, what can be done to resolve
[1:15:13] the flooding in the forest? To,
[1:15:15] if the ditch is a sufficient --
[1:15:19] sufficient to prevent further
[1:15:21] flooding or if an alternative
[1:15:23] drainage solution is required.
[1:15:26] One, the forest is perpetually
[1:15:29] flooded and no measures have
[1:15:30] been taken to fix this. Number
[1:15:33] two, while the edges may be
[1:15:34] greener and less expensive to
[1:15:36] the developer, we questioned
[1:15:37] whether it's the most effective
[1:15:38] way to drain water from what was
[1:15:41] formerly wetland. In addition to
[1:15:43] the flooding behind the three
[1:15:45] town houses in Greenwich Village
[1:15:49] last spring, that water level in
[1:15:50] the ditch was very high. If
[1:15:53] there is a greater amount of
[1:15:56] snowfall, and rainfall, in the
[1:15:57] spring, or a clog in the
[1:15:59] drainage, it could reach -- and
[1:16:01] this would cause flooding in my
[1:16:02] house and my neighbour's houses.
[1:16:07] The third reason is we simply
[1:16:08] don't trust Sotramont work.
[1:16:11] According to the city, it's
[1:16:12] their work that led to the
[1:16:13] floods. While they claim to have
[1:16:15] fix the issue, the water still
[1:16:16] doesn't drain as expect.
[1:16:26] Sorry. Our question tonight, are
[1:16:32] you in favour of an independent
[1:16:34] study taking place and
[1:16:35] determining whether further
[1:16:37] drainage solutions are required
[1:16:38] to prevent flooding on the
[1:16:40] houses on Alston in the
[1:16:42] Greenwich project? If the study
[1:16:44] showed that the current drainage
[1:16:46] solution is inadequate, what
[1:16:48] measures with the city be
[1:16:49] willing to take to fix it?
[1:16:54] >> Excuse me, Mister. Thomas may
[1:16:56] I?
[1:16:57] >> Absolutely.
[1:16:58] >> Excuse me, Mister Atkinson,
[1:16:59] as you know, and as I explained
[1:17:02] to you, the city is being sued
[1:17:03] right now. Okay? As I told you
[1:17:08] in the previous meeting, we
[1:17:10] cannot comment. We cannot give
[1:17:11] you solutions. I've received
[1:17:14] your email, which was set at
[1:17:16] 5:30 today. We are going to look
[1:17:19] at it. I haven't had the time to
[1:17:23] discuss this issue with caucus.
[1:17:28] That's as much information as I
[1:17:31] can give. I would suggest that
[1:17:35] Council perhaps don't comment
[1:17:36] more than that.
[1:17:43] >> Thanks for your time.
[1:17:44] >> I'm going to go ahead.
[1:17:53] >> Good evening. I hope
[1:17:55] everybody is doing well. Lynn
[1:17:58] Conway. I want to talk about --
[1:18:05] [Inaudible]
[1:18:17] >> It's the lowering and raising
[1:18:19] mechanism that seems to be the
[1:18:20] issue here.
[1:18:22] >> Okay. The condo projects.
[1:18:39] The condo projects. It's the
[1:18:44] same question I asked last
[1:18:46] month. I would like more clarity
[1:18:48] on how a decision will be made
[1:18:50] on how decisions will be made
[1:18:52] following the report by that
[1:18:54] consulting firm, considering
[1:18:56] that six councillors -- how will
[1:19:01] Council abide by the results of
[1:19:02] the report?
[1:19:05] >> What report? I am unclear.
[1:19:07] >> The consulting firm we hired
[1:19:10] --
[1:19:11] >> Who hired the --
[1:19:12] >> Win --
[1:19:16] >> I'm not sure what consulting
[1:19:19] firm, and what issue.
[1:19:23] >> And the consulting we are
[1:19:24] doing for the icy be.
[1:19:31] >> Okay..
[1:19:35] >> We have hired a firm that
[1:19:36] will deal with public
[1:19:38] consultations.
[1:19:39] >> There is a report, right?
[1:19:40] >> They are engaging. They will
[1:19:46] engage in consulting the public.
[1:19:47] They have been hired to solicit
[1:19:48] the public to engage in public
[1:19:51] consultation.
[1:19:52] >> They will provide a report to
[1:19:53] you and Council. A decision will
[1:19:57] have to be made by Council. My
[1:19:59] question is, I'm concerned there
[1:20:03] are six councillors very pro
[1:20:04] developer. How will a decision
[1:20:06] be made? By the reports results?
[1:20:09] There's a lot of traffic and a
[1:20:10] lot of construction. Will there
[1:20:12] be more and more people in
[1:20:13] traffic? It's getting risky
[1:20:16] crossing the street now.
[1:20:21] >> I'm sure some councillors
[1:20:23] would take exception to them
[1:20:25] being pro developer. I can't
[1:20:29] imagine any of us, all of us
[1:20:30] together, would ever resist that
[1:20:32] results of the public
[1:20:35] consultation. We would
[1:20:37] certainly, certainly I'm sure
[1:20:38] they will be held public and I'm
[1:20:40] sure everybody will listen to
[1:20:42] them. I hope. I can't imagine
[1:20:43] that happening. My feeling is
[1:20:47] that I'm not worried about it
[1:20:48] myself, personally. I think we
[1:20:52] will all listen to what the
[1:20:55] public says and abide
[1:20:57] accordingly. That's my hope. I
[1:20:58] suspect it may be the case.
[1:21:01] >> All the council meetings I've
[1:21:02] been to recently, all the voting
[1:21:05] have gone for the developers.
[1:21:09] How can we know? Will there be a
[1:21:11] vote on the report?
[1:21:14] >> Well, some of the decisions
[1:21:18] recently have been based on the
[1:21:20] degree of completion of various
[1:21:22] projects. Some of them are
[1:21:25] exempt from the ICB because they
[1:21:27] were far along and it would
[1:21:28] jeopardize them. That is some of
[1:21:32] the rationale for why people
[1:21:33] vote the way they vote. I can't
[1:21:37] imagine -- I just can't imagine
[1:21:38] any of us would deny the result
[1:21:40] of public consultation. My
[1:21:45] greater fear is not with
[1:21:46] Council. My greater fear is with
[1:21:49] the methodology of the
[1:21:50] consultation. That's the one I'm
[1:21:51] very concerned about. I want to
[1:21:52] make sure we get a true
[1:21:54] expression of public opinion, an
[1:21:55] accurate reflection of what
[1:21:56] people want. What we get is a
[1:22:00] result -- will reflect that
[1:22:02] public. If we get that
[1:22:03] accurately, we can do the right
[1:22:04] thing and people will be happy.
[1:22:06] I'm hoping.
[1:22:07] >> There will be a development,
[1:22:09] most likely, on my street? I
[1:22:10] don't know how I will be
[1:22:11] consulted. Are they calling me,
[1:22:13] sending me a letter, email?
[1:22:16] >> We are not there yet. I am
[1:22:19] hoping you will have a chance to
[1:22:20] express your will. The idea is
[1:22:24] to be transparent and get as
[1:22:26] much -- as many people as
[1:22:27] possible to get involved in the
[1:22:28] process. The irony of all this
[1:22:31] as we did a public consultation
[1:22:32] work. You heard me talking about
[1:22:33] it in the village tonight, but
[1:22:35] one way to weigh issue in the
[1:22:36] village. We put it out there to
[1:22:40] everybody. Not everybody showed
[1:22:41] up. They got all upset. Now we
[1:22:42] are we doing it because people
[1:22:45] didn't seize the opportunity.
[1:22:47] It's like voting, voter turnout.
[1:22:49] If you are given an opportunity
[1:22:51] to express your democratic
[1:22:52] right, please do so. When we go
[1:22:55] to consultation on the RCI or on
[1:22:59] your vision of citizens as the
[1:23:01] future of Pointe-Claire, please
[1:23:02] express yourself. I urge you. I
[1:23:03] beg you to do so.
[1:23:06] >> My second question. We pay a
[1:23:10] lot of city taxes. Sometimes, I
[1:23:12] find some of the expenses have
[1:23:15] been questionable. Like, say,
[1:23:17] for example, I think we are
[1:23:19] still a modest city, about
[1:23:21] 30,000 citizens. For example,
[1:23:24] item 30.08, with a contract.
[1:23:27] This is one example. Every month
[1:23:29] I see stuff. 132,004 services. I
[1:23:37] don't even know what that
[1:23:38] entails. There was an award
[1:23:43] presentation for public works
[1:23:44] staff. There was no professional
[1:23:46] photographer. This is a lot of
[1:23:49] money. A couple months ago,
[1:23:53] there was around $700,000 for a
[1:23:55] computer program. In the past,
[1:23:59] I've seen many attributed for
[1:24:01] Pickleball tables. I've seen
[1:24:02] parks and tables. A little bit
[1:24:06] of cement, or grant I, I'm not
[1:24:08] sure. How is anybody playing on
[1:24:10] them? I find some of these
[1:24:12] expenses are questionable. Why
[1:24:13] are we paying $132,000 for
[1:24:17] photography?
[1:24:20] >> We go through that exercise.
[1:24:21] We did a very recently, all of
[1:24:22] us. Our director of finance
[1:24:27] brought up a bunch of items that
[1:24:28] said, if you had to draw the
[1:24:30] line because of recent increase
[1:24:32] of property values, where would
[1:24:34] we draw the line? It's hard.
[1:24:36] Citizens like a lot of these
[1:24:38] services. Some of these they
[1:24:39] received. Those pingpong tables
[1:24:41] are very appreciated by people.
[1:24:44] Where do we draw the line? It's
[1:24:46] a very good question. It's what
[1:24:50] we are supposed to do, to try to
[1:24:52] balance the books and make sure
[1:24:53] we buy things worth the money --
[1:24:56] if citizens want services and
[1:24:57] don't want them diminished, we
[1:24:58] keep them. If they are too
[1:25:01] expensive, we reduced them.
[1:25:02] That's a tough call. It's a
[1:25:03] really tough call. We brought
[1:25:05] through the exercise. We had a
[1:25:08] pretty serious one last weekend.
[1:25:09] We went through the equations,
[1:25:12] that scenarios of what we would
[1:25:13] cut if we had to. If there were
[1:25:15] things we would reduce.
[1:25:16] >> Sorry to interrupt. $132,000
[1:25:21] for a photographer. The printing
[1:25:26] is even on top of that.
[1:25:28] >> I don't know the specifics of
[1:25:31] that. Mister Seguin, do you have
[1:25:32] any?
[1:25:35] >> Yes, you are correct. It's a
[1:25:36] take all the pictures we use for
[1:25:38] all the various brochures. All
[1:25:42] the publications that the City
[1:25:44] makes during the year. That's an
[1:25:47] annual contract that we give out
[1:25:49] on an annual basis.
[1:25:54] >> It warrants this amount of
[1:25:54] money?
[1:25:57] >> We go and make a call for
[1:26:00] tender and that's the lowest
[1:26:01] bidder that won the contract.
[1:26:05] >> Okay.
[1:26:06] >> That's generally how it's
[1:26:08] done. The irony is that the
[1:26:10] lowest bidder isn't always the
[1:26:11] best way to go. It's a tough
[1:26:12] call. It's a really hard
[1:26:15] decision making process.
[1:26:16] >> We can't give some staff a
[1:26:17] professional camera?
[1:26:21] >> Who knows what's being asked
[1:26:23] and what the photographers --
[1:26:24] who knows what their job
[1:26:26] requires, what the needs are,
[1:26:27] what they are doing. We don't
[1:26:28] know that specifically. We can't
[1:26:32] denigrate them if we don't know
[1:26:33] --
[1:26:34] >> Don't get me wrong. I'm not
[1:26:36] denigrating anybody. I am saying
[1:26:38] in the amount of expense, these
[1:26:39] are just some expenses. Every
[1:26:41] month, I see something else.
[1:26:43] Couple months ago, 700,000 for
[1:26:46] computer programs or software.
[1:26:48] Sometimes just the expenses that
[1:26:50] are way up there.
[1:26:53] >> That is your right. If we
[1:26:57] overspend or you feel we are
[1:26:58] overspending, let us know.
[1:27:00] >> I will come every month and
[1:27:01] --
[1:27:03] >> You can bring them up. That's
[1:27:05] for sure. That's what we are
[1:27:06] here for.
[1:27:07] >> Thank you.
[1:27:08] >> Thank you.
[1:27:28] - Bonjour, mon nom, c'est
[1:27:30] Suzanne Wilson. Moi, je me pose
[1:27:33] la question: le Dean de
[1:27:37] filtration d'eau, ça fait partie
[1:27:40] de l'agglomération de Montréal.
[1:27:42] Alors c'est qui qui prend la
[1:27:44] décision de mettre du fluor dans
[1:27:46] l'eau de Pointe-Claire?
[1:27:47] - C'est l'agglomération qui
[1:27:49] décide ça.
[1:27:50] - L'agglomération de quelle
[1:27:51] ville?
[1:27:52] - De Montréal.
[1:27:53] - De Montréal?
[1:27:54] - C'est l'agglomération de
[1:27:55] Montréal qui décide ce qui se
[1:27:56] passe avec l'eau.
[1:27:57] - Donc, vous vous n'avez pas
[1:28:00] affaire à l'eau du tout quand on
[1:28:01] parle?
[1:28:02] - Pas vraiment, c'est situé sur
[1:28:05] notre, dans notre ville, mais la
[1:28:07] responsabilité pour l'eau, c'est
[1:28:09] l'agglomération de Montréal.
[1:28:11] - Est-ce qu'on paie des taxes,
[1:28:12] nos, pour l'eau fluorée dans nos
[1:28:14] taxes?
[1:28:15] - Bonne question. Monsieur
[1:28:17] Séguin, est-ce que...
[1:28:18] - Tous les coûts concernant la
[1:28:22] distribution de l'eau est payée
[1:28:24] par une quote-part que l'on paie
[1:28:26] à l'agglomération de Montréal.
[1:28:28] - Donc on paye pour?
[1:28:30] - Oui.
[1:28:31] - O.K.. Bien moi, je n'en veux
[1:28:33] pas. Ça donne le cancer de la
[1:28:35] vessie. Moi, j'ai un proche
[1:28:37] parent qui est décédé de ça, il
[1:28:40] a bu de l'eau de 1954 à 1990 est
[1:28:44] déjà à ce moment-là, il disait
[1:28:46] que c'était une possibilité que
[1:28:48] l'eau fluorée donnait le cancer
[1:28:49] de la vessie. Alors moi, je vis
[1:28:53] à Pointe-Claire depuis plusieurs
[1:28:54] années. Ça prend 30 ans pour
[1:28:56] avoir des problèmes? Alors moi,
[1:29:00] je suis dans la controverse, il
[1:29:01] y a une controverse là-dessus et
[1:29:03] on m'oblige à boire cette
[1:29:04] eau-là! C'est contre la
[1:29:07] démocratie. Qu'est-ce que je
[1:29:08] peux faire pour ça?
[1:29:16] - Il faut parler votre... de
[1:29:19] votre décision à tout le monde,
[1:29:20] il faut publier votre opinion.
[1:29:21] - Mais c'est pas mon opinion,
[1:29:23] c'est scientifique.
[1:29:24] (inaudible)
[1:29:26] - Ça change le monde, le monde
[1:29:28] change comme ça.
[1:29:29] - Mais c'est urgent!
[1:29:30] - O.K..
[1:29:31] - On va mourir!
[1:29:32] - Oui.
[1:29:33] - On va avoir plein de
[1:29:34] problèmes! Moi, je n'ose plus
[1:29:36] boire de l'eau, mais je n'ai pas
[1:29:38] le choix, là! Je n'ai pas le
[1:29:40] choix de cuire des aliments. Je
[1:29:41] ne suis Paris a craqué à tout
[1:29:43] laver mes aliments dans l'eau...
[1:29:46] en tout cas...
[1:29:47] - Je suis d'accord, il y a
[1:29:48] beaucoup de choses dans notre
[1:29:49] vie qui sont dangereuses pour
[1:29:51] nous: le soleil est dangereux,
[1:29:53] l'alcool est dangereux aussi, il
[1:29:54] y a des choses dans notre vie...
[1:29:57] oui, je comprends, Madame.
[1:30:00] >> Mr.? Thomas may just add that
[1:30:02] it is not only a Pointe-Claire
[1:30:04] decision. That water is also
[1:30:06] used by other municipalities on
[1:30:07] the West Island. Such as
[1:30:10] Beaconsfield, I believe,
[1:30:13] Dollard, Kirkland. They'll have
[1:30:16] a say as.
[1:30:20] >> And Dorval as. Well hi, my
[1:30:21] name is Angela Clark. I'm also
[1:30:24] here to talk about the
[1:30:26] fluoridation of our water.
[1:30:27] Mister Mayor, you did mention
[1:30:29] that you are not an expert. But
[1:30:32] the head of preventative
[1:30:33] dentistry at the head of
[1:30:35] Toronto, along with the Canadian
[1:30:37] association of physicians for
[1:30:39] the environment, oppose water
[1:30:40] fluoridation. It is true. I was
[1:30:45] disappointed. When Mr. -- came
[1:30:48] up to the microphone, he's been
[1:30:50] working his butt off on this. He
[1:30:53] really has. Right away, you kind
[1:30:54] of -- I felt bullied him a
[1:30:57] little bit. Keep it -- you've
[1:31:01] already mentioned what you had
[1:31:02] to. Say right away, you probably
[1:31:03] forgot what half of what he
[1:31:04] wanted to say. Also, I have here
[1:31:11] the technical data sheet from --
[1:31:15] 2021, where it says exactly what
[1:31:17] you doubted, that there is heavy
[1:31:19] metal, silver and lead in the
[1:31:22] fluoridated water. There is a
[1:31:28] study from jam, us somewhere
[1:31:29] here, that shows the association
[1:31:33] between maternal fluoride
[1:31:34] exposure during pregnancy and IQ
[1:31:36] scores in offspring and in
[1:31:39] Canada. They tested -- from six
[1:31:44] different hospitals across
[1:31:45] Canada. There was a serious
[1:31:48] deficit and IQ from the mothers
[1:31:51] who drink tap water that was
[1:31:53] Florida. My question is why are
[1:31:56] we still paying for fluoridated
[1:31:59] water when we know we have
[1:32:02] fluoridated toothpaste. We know
[1:32:03] how to take care of our teeth
[1:32:04] and our children's teeth now.
[1:32:06] That's my first question. Also,
[1:32:10] Mr. Cohen. You are my counts. In
[1:32:17] your mandate statement, you said
[1:32:19] I want to help bring municipal
[1:32:21] government closer to the
[1:32:22] community. To encourage the
[1:32:25] committees deep involvement in
[1:32:27] their own municipal government.
[1:32:30] I feel, sometimes, that the
[1:32:33] citizens may be disrespected. I
[1:32:36] know, again, like, Mr. quell oh
[1:32:41] and knocked on thousands of
[1:32:44] doors. I've never met you. I've
[1:32:46] never seen you at my door or
[1:32:49] anyone helping you with your
[1:32:51] campaign. But I saw him. His
[1:32:54] passion for this made me
[1:32:57] interested in municipal
[1:32:58] government. I think maybe you
[1:33:00] could write him a letter
[1:33:01] thanking him for doing what you
[1:33:04] said that you want.
[1:33:05] >> May I respond?
[1:33:06] >> I actually went with him
[1:33:09] about a year ago, accompanied
[1:33:11] him as he was gathering
[1:33:12] signatures. I wanted to see how
[1:33:14] he was going about it. I wanted
[1:33:15] to see him -- how he's
[1:33:17] interacting with citizens. I
[1:33:19] wanted to get a sense for when
[1:33:21] citizens were signing the
[1:33:22] petition, where they signing it
[1:33:25] knowingly. I satisfied myself of
[1:33:28] the and gentlemen integrity and
[1:33:33] the honesty of his approach.
[1:33:35] I've been giving a lot of advice
[1:33:36] on how to go about the process
[1:33:40] of direct democracy. I'm sorry I
[1:33:43] never met you. I have knocked on
[1:33:45] a lot of doors in our district.
[1:33:47] Maybe I missed yours or you
[1:33:49] weren't in when I knocked.
[1:33:51] >> Okay. I do appreciate that
[1:33:54] very much. I met him when I was
[1:33:56] a reporter. I am still a
[1:33:57] reporter. I was working with the
[1:33:59] suburban. I am involved in
[1:34:02] federal politics. I help with
[1:34:06] Mr. Francis campaign for two
[1:34:07] time. I'm going to be more
[1:34:09] involved in municipal. I'm
[1:34:14] asking my second question. Will
[1:34:16] you please put this to a vote
[1:34:18] and please hear our voices? If
[1:34:19] you want us involved in our
[1:34:21] community, it's important our
[1:34:23] questions are respected. Thank.
[1:34:25] You
[1:34:26] >> If I --
[1:34:28] [Applause]
[1:34:30] In response to bullying Mr.
[1:34:35] Kahlo, if you followed our
[1:34:37] previous council meetings, I've
[1:34:39] been criticized for letting him
[1:34:43] go on for a long period of time.
[1:34:46] I felt that given my emission
[1:34:50] last time, I thought I would
[1:34:52] level out the playing field a
[1:34:53] bit. His last time at the
[1:34:57] microphone we, he did have a
[1:34:58] very, very fair say.
[1:35:01] >> I apologize for that, then.
[1:35:03] >> I try not to bully. I'm sorry
[1:35:05] if it seemed that way.
[1:35:06] >> I apologize. Maybe that
[1:35:08] wasn't the right word to use. I
[1:35:11] feel there's a division and a
[1:35:13] pressure between Council and its
[1:35:15] citizens. I hope maybe I can
[1:35:19] play a small part in -- if you
[1:35:22] take volunteers. Anyway, we will
[1:35:23] talk about that and the time.
[1:35:25] Thank you for your time.
[1:35:26] >> Thanks very much.
[1:35:41] >> Good evening ladies and
[1:35:42] gentlemen. My name is --
[1:35:47] district seven. I learned in
[1:35:52] business University, a
[1:35:59] relationship built on trust,
[1:36:04] honesty and respect. Honesty,
[1:36:09] trust, and respect. That's any
[1:36:13] business, a relationship built
[1:36:14] in that will be a success. Why
[1:36:19] I'm here? I want my wife when --
[1:36:22] we have a duty. When we choose
[1:36:25] to come live in Pointe-Claire 30
[1:36:26] years ago, it was my wife who
[1:36:32] choose it for a green
[1:36:35] environment, good neighbourhood,
[1:36:36] and safe, good school. Good
[1:36:42] daycare. Good library. Good
[1:36:45] sport. Facility. That's why we
[1:36:51] chose to come here and raise for
[1:36:52] kids. They all graduated
[1:36:57] engineer and they success. Not
[1:37:02] only good parents to take care
[1:37:03] of them. No. Because they are
[1:37:06] born and they grow up in
[1:37:08] Pointe-Claire. That's my duty.
[1:37:10] Me and my wife will come here to
[1:37:11] always defend the citizen of
[1:37:16] Pointe-Claire and the future
[1:37:17] citizen. That's what your kids
[1:37:20] and grandkids. Please, don't be
[1:37:25] divided. The United. To help the
[1:37:31] citizen of Pointe-Claire and the
[1:37:32] future. When I drive through
[1:37:38] Hymus, the west of St. John,
[1:37:41] it's almost like a downtown now.
[1:37:43] I don't know how people -- we
[1:37:46] elect in 2018 mayor ran for
[1:37:54] citizens first. Six of you, you
[1:38:02] with him, accept every decision
[1:38:04] he's doing it.
[1:38:07] >> Point of order, please. That
[1:38:09] is incorrect. Thank you.
[1:38:13] >> So, please. Hi Miss was --
[1:38:17] did anybody try to drive there?
[1:38:21] The same building what all that
[1:38:24] goes in in your street or
[1:38:26] district, how are you going to
[1:38:27] feel? Are you going to feel
[1:38:29] well? Please! Try to reverse old
[1:38:37] bad decision that happened in
[1:38:39] the last four years. Why are you
[1:38:41] giving special treatment for
[1:38:48] contractor or developer. Why?
[1:38:51] >> Point of order. That is
[1:38:52] incorrect. It is also
[1:38:55] denigrating.
[1:38:58] >> What is the question? There
[1:39:00] is an answer to this.
[1:39:01] >> My question for this city
[1:39:05] council from the previous
[1:39:07] administration, are you going to
[1:39:09] try to help and stop the high
[1:39:11] rise buildings and condo?
[1:39:15] >> Sir. If I could just say, I'm
[1:39:17] not a huge fan of Hymus West
[1:39:19] either. That happened long
[1:39:20] before the past administration.
[1:39:23] Hymus West was started a long,
[1:39:25] long time ago. I concur with
[1:39:28] your decision. It was before the
[1:39:30] last administration that the
[1:39:33] project was approved and
[1:39:34] started.
[1:39:35] >> Can we stop it? Everybody is
[1:39:36] just blaming the one before.
[1:39:40] That's not my question. Why?
[1:39:42] >> It's a cumulative process. We
[1:39:45] all learn and evolve and come
[1:39:47] with different solutions. You
[1:39:48] know, I think Hymus West is an
[1:39:52] example of maybe where we don't
[1:39:54] want to head. It was decided
[1:39:57] quite a while ago, that project
[1:39:58] was approved. If they start
[1:40:01] happening --
[1:40:02] >> I understand.
[1:40:04] >> We are responsible for the
[1:40:05] ones happening now.
[1:40:06] >> I understand. We have to stop
[1:40:07] it.
[1:40:08] >> We are trying. We are trying.
[1:40:12] >> Some green space -- the green
[1:40:16] space already all put it in
[1:40:18] white.
[1:40:19] >> In fairness, and there is an
[1:40:22] interim control measure on the
[1:40:24] Fairview forest. There has been
[1:40:26] some work done to do exactly
[1:40:27] what you are suggesting. We are
[1:40:30] all part of that.
[1:40:33] >> It's our duty for the city,
[1:40:35] for our kids and future.
[1:40:37] >> Clearly, the actions show
[1:40:39] that maybe that's shared. Maybe
[1:40:41] that's where we are headed going
[1:40:43] forward.
[1:40:44] >> City Council, they going to
[1:40:45] correct all that?
[1:40:48] >> We are going to do our best,
[1:40:49] I hope.
[1:40:51] >> Please!
[1:40:54] >> Sort of what we are trying to
[1:40:55] do, I think. We are about to
[1:40:57] come out with an urban plan.
[1:41:01] >> My teacher used to tell us,
[1:41:05] the animal, they used to control
[1:41:06] it, you have to fight it. But
[1:41:10] humans, they get tied by what
[1:41:12] they say and what they do.
[1:41:14] That's how they get respect and
[1:41:16] how they get tied by what they
[1:41:17] say and they do. Please, God
[1:41:20] bless you. Do the right thing.
[1:41:22] >> Thank you. I appreciate that.
[1:41:25] We shall. We will try.
[1:41:34] Yeah.
[1:41:35] >> I don't want to mess around.
[1:41:39] Perfect. My question is with
[1:41:44] regards to 10.11.
[1:41:47] >> Can you state your name for
[1:41:49] the minutes, first?
[1:41:50] >> It's Thomas shorts from
[1:41:51] period.
[1:41:56] >> Excuse me. You've been
[1:41:59] entitled to speak when it comes
[1:42:00] up. Minor exemption. You are
[1:42:01] entitled to speak.
[1:42:04] >> I will use of this time,
[1:42:05] then. My question is, if this
[1:42:09] plant is online, so that way I
[1:42:12] can see what the access would
[1:42:15] look like. 15 metres is almost
[1:42:19] 50 feet. That's really wide for
[1:42:21] a driveway. I just wanted to
[1:42:23] know, if I look at the plans
[1:42:26] online -- I don't know if these
[1:42:27] plans are online, I just want to
[1:42:29] see what it looks like for the
[1:42:30] house. That's my back neighbour.
[1:42:34] >> Okay. Councillor Stork, would
[1:42:37] you like to respond?
[1:42:38] >> If I'm not mistaken, Kelly
[1:42:40] would you like to reply? If I'm
[1:42:45] not mistaken, what happens
[1:42:46] sometimes, again, I'm pretty
[1:42:48] sure, not 100 percent, is that
[1:42:50] sometimes it's the total with.
[1:42:53] Maybe something where it starts
[1:42:54] off at 20 feet -- it turns out
[1:42:56] for some reason there is a
[1:42:57] collapse or something. Total
[1:43:00] with might be 50 metres. The
[1:43:03] actual entrance itself is a
[1:43:06] standard 20 feet, 1.6 metres. If
[1:43:09] I come out and bulge out around
[1:43:11] the house, there will be full
[1:43:13] distance.
[1:43:14] >> This one says access.
[1:43:16] >> Access land, yeah. That's
[1:43:18] probably the access --
[1:43:21] >> I'm going to add, I believe
[1:43:23] this is the house that the
[1:43:24] driveway was already in
[1:43:26] existence. They are not creating
[1:43:27] it. They're trying to get that
[1:43:28] minor exemption to approve what
[1:43:30] was in existence before they
[1:43:31] bought the house. At one point,
[1:43:34] higher up, near the house, it is
[1:43:36] widening. But at the base where
[1:43:38] it goes out onto the street,
[1:43:39] it's less wide. It also already
[1:43:42] exists. They are asking to do
[1:43:44] it. They are just trying to get
[1:43:46] it regulated. In addition, there
[1:43:48] was a recommendation from
[1:43:49] Planning Advisory to add a few
[1:43:51] extra trees on the property
[1:43:53] because there is additional
[1:43:55] asphalt for the -- it's possible
[1:43:58] to add bushes or trees to
[1:44:01] offset, a net positive green
[1:44:03] gain. That's the net positive
[1:44:05] environment.
[1:44:06] >> So, then, this would mean
[1:44:08] that after this was spoken at
[1:44:10] Council, it would be passed?
[1:44:14] >> They are asking us to approve
[1:44:16] what -- we will vote on that
[1:44:18] tonight. If we agree, or if we
[1:44:20] are going to ask them to remove
[1:44:22] their pathway.
[1:44:23] >> Right. Okay. Then I would be
[1:44:24] able to have seen what that
[1:44:25] looks like before.
[1:44:27] >> We are not allowed to give
[1:44:28] you plans of peoples individual
[1:44:30] homes. The house exists. You can
[1:44:31] drive by the house.
[1:44:33] >> I'm curious. I got a letter
[1:44:34] in the mail saying this is
[1:44:36] happening. I was like, oh, okay.
[1:44:38] I don't even know.
[1:44:39] >> You can drive by. But also,
[1:44:41] if there is people's personal
[1:44:42] plans, we aren't legally allowed
[1:44:43] to put those on for people to
[1:44:45] evaluate.
[1:44:46] >> This means this already
[1:44:47] exists?
[1:44:49] >> Yes. It already exists. They
[1:44:51] are not creating it.
[1:44:52] >> Cool. That's what I wanted to
[1:44:53] note. Thank you.
[1:44:54] >> There is a certain amount of
[1:44:57] minor exemptions that we don't
[1:44:58] state them as maybe we should
[1:45:00] state them in the existing
[1:45:02] conditions rectified. If you
[1:45:03] sell your house or something of
[1:45:04] that nature, if you are in
[1:45:06] violation of your purchase,
[1:45:08] these are people who discovered
[1:45:09] something wrong when the house
[1:45:11] was built ten, 20, 30 years ago.
[1:45:13] Now they want to rectify the
[1:45:14] situation.
[1:45:15] >> Cool. Thank you.
[1:45:19] >> Yeah. Hi. My name is David
[1:45:21] Friedman. My question is about
[1:45:29] what can the City do -- and it's
[1:45:35] a safety question, maybe of
[1:45:36] interest to you Councillor Stork
[1:45:42] -- about pedestrian crossings.
[1:45:45] Because it's been my
[1:45:47] observation, and many others on
[1:45:52] Facebook, on the Facebook news
[1:45:55] group, news and discussion
[1:45:58] group, that our pedestrian
[1:46:01] crossings are not being
[1:46:04] recognized by drivers and not
[1:46:05] being respected. The other day,
[1:46:13] I was -- I stopped at a
[1:46:16] pedestrian crossing on lakeshore
[1:46:18] road, I'm going to Edgewater
[1:46:26] park to let a little girl and
[1:46:28] her mother across the street. At
[1:46:31] least four cars passed the other
[1:46:35] way. Only when I started honking
[1:46:40] my horn did cars stop. There
[1:46:46] seems to be a grave
[1:46:51] misunderstanding about what one
[1:46:54] does at a pedestrian crossing.
[1:46:58] What I was told when I went to
[1:47:01] driving school was, you are
[1:47:02] supposed to slow down. You're
[1:47:06] always to slow down when
[1:47:09] approaching a pedestrian
[1:47:10] crossing. And then, if a
[1:47:14] pedestrian is there, you give
[1:47:15] the right of way to the
[1:47:17] pedestrian. Otherwise, you roll
[1:47:18] through. But no one is slowing
[1:47:20] down. My question is, shouldn't
[1:47:25] we be replacing these pedestrian
[1:47:33] cross walks with stop lines and
[1:47:35] science? I think this is what
[1:47:41] should be done at that
[1:47:44] particular one. I don't think we
[1:47:50] want to get in a situation where
[1:47:56] in some areas I think it's okay
[1:47:58] to have lights and buttons for
[1:48:04] pedestrians to push. But if you
[1:48:05] are on a bike or if you are a
[1:48:11] little kid crossing a crosswalk
[1:48:12] to go to school or go to play in
[1:48:15] a park, I don't think we should
[1:48:20] expect everyone to go hit a
[1:48:24] light and therefore the onus is
[1:48:27] being placed on the pedestrian.
[1:48:30] It's the driver of the cars that
[1:48:33] get licenses.
[1:48:36] >> And they are the ones that
[1:48:39] are supposed to be respecting
[1:48:42] the rules of the road and
[1:48:44] watching the traffic all the
[1:48:46] time. Not the little kids.
[1:48:50] >> If I'm going to respond,
[1:48:52] hopefully that's okay, because
[1:48:53] he is taken my spot on the
[1:48:56] traffic committee, but for my
[1:48:58] eight years first to years of as
[1:48:59] a councillors on the traffic
[1:49:01] committee, and this is one of
[1:49:02] the number one complaints that
[1:49:05] we have received for safety
[1:49:07] issues. We have thrown the whole
[1:49:10] kitchen sink at this problem. We
[1:49:14] have done different reminders of
[1:49:16] how to drive properly in our
[1:49:18] newsletters and those of us who
[1:49:20] delivered personal newsletters
[1:49:21] every year, reminders, here's
[1:49:23] how to drive through a
[1:49:25] roundabout properly, respect
[1:49:27] pedestrians, monitor speeding,
[1:49:28] if you have noticed our
[1:49:29] campaigns for the signs we tried
[1:49:31] the no speeding campaign signs.
[1:49:34] Stop at stop signs signs. We
[1:49:36] have discussed it at length and
[1:49:38] every costs council meeting.
[1:49:40] When you leave this room, please
[1:49:42] drive properly, please stop and
[1:49:43] stop signs, drive the speed
[1:49:44] limit, and please respect
[1:49:46] pedestrians. Because it all
[1:49:47] starts with each of us. I
[1:49:49] honestly think it's going to
[1:49:51] need a Québec driving culture
[1:49:52] change and we need to start with
[1:49:53] going into the schools. The
[1:49:55] police have started it and
[1:49:56] teaching the new young drivers
[1:49:58] to drive properly. You go to
[1:50:02] Alberta or Nova Scotia or in the
[1:50:04] States, they stop on your five
[1:50:06] you'd way from that crosswalk.
[1:50:08] We've tried different things. To
[1:50:14] try to degrees the speed in the
[1:50:16] middle of the, when the summer
[1:50:19] months are up. But I do want to
[1:50:23] caution that in the literature
[1:50:24] this adding a stop sign, one,
[1:50:25] it's not why you add a stop sign
[1:50:27] is to just to protect across
[1:50:29] work, because it gives a false
[1:50:30] sense of security. The perfect
[1:50:32] example is on King and St.
[1:50:34] Louis, there's a stop sign
[1:50:35] there, nobody respects it. Oh a
[1:50:39] stop sign, I can walk on this
[1:50:41] car crosswalk. -- I
[1:50:42] >> Think people respect car stop
[1:50:44] signs were the grass walks.
[1:50:46] >> On traffic committee they do
[1:50:47] not. I'm telling you what we
[1:50:48] have done. But you know what,
[1:50:50] it's really beyond this council
[1:50:51] to say, because we don't have a
[1:50:53] magic wand to change how
[1:50:54] everyone drives. I will say
[1:50:56] again, when you drive home
[1:50:57] tonight, stop at sob signs,
[1:50:59] drive slow, respect pedestrians,
[1:51:02] and we're gonna educate the
[1:51:04] younger generation. It's not
[1:51:05] that we don't care. We've put
[1:51:07] everything out there. If you
[1:51:08] have any constructive ideas of
[1:51:09] how we can do, it absolutely.
[1:51:12] Let us know.
[1:51:13] >> How about -- development in
[1:51:16] Pointe-Claire?
[1:51:17] >> No it's not separate. It's
[1:51:20] completely related. It's related
[1:51:22] to the question, if you add
[1:51:25] density --
[1:51:26] >> A security question, thank.
[1:51:27] You
[1:51:28] >> If you add density and you're
[1:51:32] adding population to the city
[1:51:33] and our streets become busier,
[1:51:36] we, Council can't throw its
[1:51:38] hands in the air and say, this
[1:51:41] is Québec's problem.
[1:51:43] >> I'm sorry, not throwing my
[1:51:44] hands in the air, just
[1:51:46] explaining to you and, you're
[1:51:48] not being very respectful to
[1:51:50] anything I've said.
[1:51:51] >> Is there another question, or
[1:51:53] do you have a question in there?
[1:51:55] >> Yes. There is another
[1:51:57] question. The other question is,
[1:52:01] isn't the increasing the
[1:52:03] population of Pointe-Claire at
[1:52:06] the rate that we are increasing
[1:52:08] it by, tied to this problem that
[1:52:12] we are having with but becoming
[1:52:22] unsafe in this city for
[1:52:24] pedestrians to walk around. I am
[1:52:28] wondering, can Council do
[1:52:32] anything to increase ticketing,
[1:52:38] and what level of tickets are
[1:52:44] fines going up, or is less
[1:52:49] ticketing going on?
[1:52:51] >> Look, it's not a question of,
[1:52:54] the police are always. There
[1:52:56] I've had a one night crusade on
[1:52:58] car safety for 23 years now. A
[1:53:01] stop sign in from a house gets
[1:53:03] blown off all the time. This is
[1:53:07] something that is going on
[1:53:08] everywhere. My personal solution
[1:53:11] for a lot of this is, for
[1:53:16] exactly what you are speaking
[1:53:17] to. Is public transit and fewer
[1:53:19] automobiles on the road. One of
[1:53:22] my issues is that, and that's
[1:53:24] again, the agglomeration, to try
[1:53:27] and work better but public
[1:53:31] transit in the city of
[1:53:32] Pointe-Claire so we have fewer
[1:53:34] cars and professionals were
[1:53:36] driving buses and metros who
[1:53:38] aren't rushing to get somewhere
[1:53:40] all the time. They're on a
[1:53:44] schedule.
[1:53:45] >> So there are fewer cars in
[1:53:49] Pointe-Claire as the years go
[1:53:50] by.
[1:53:51] >> We should try to have few
[1:53:53] public cars and more public
[1:53:55] transit.
[1:53:56] >> And more pedestrians are
[1:53:58] stuck because they can't cross
[1:54:00] the road to catch the bus. Or
[1:54:03] they can't cross the road on
[1:54:05] their bicycle.
[1:54:08] >> Again, that police
[1:54:09] enforcement.
[1:54:10] >> Can Council do anything?
[1:54:14] >> We are certainly not without
[1:54:16] saying so all the time on a
[1:54:18] constant basis.
[1:54:20] >> Mr. Thomas, may I just add
[1:54:21] something? But
[1:54:24] >> Pointe-Claire itself is not
[1:54:25] allowed to issue any tickets for
[1:54:27] moving violations. Only the
[1:54:29] SPVM. The best thing to do is
[1:54:32] email or call, not 9-1-1, but
[1:54:35] the police station. When they
[1:54:38] receive a complaint they will
[1:54:39] put a police officer at that
[1:54:42] location to ticket. I would
[1:54:44] highly recommend doing that
[1:54:45] because we don't have control
[1:54:47] over moving violations, nor do
[1:54:49] we control the amount of the
[1:54:52] fines related to moving
[1:54:54] violation. That's all SPVM and
[1:54:57] Montréal. It's not
[1:54:58] Pointe-Claire. We do not,
[1:55:00] unfortunately, have that power.
[1:55:03] So in that sense I just wanted
[1:55:05] to clarify that we don't control
[1:55:07] the police here. We have a
[1:55:09] relationship with the police
[1:55:11] department. There are police
[1:55:12] that sit on our traffic
[1:55:14] committee. They are aware of
[1:55:18] problematic areas that the
[1:55:20] Council and the mayor make them
[1:55:21] aware of. But we ask citizens to
[1:55:24] also be proactive in contracting
[1:55:27] contacting the police station
[1:55:29] and letting them know where the
[1:55:31] problematic areas are. If the
[1:55:33] stop sign in front of your
[1:55:34] house, that speaks to your
[1:55:35] point, as well, that we don't
[1:55:36] you stop signs to create safe
[1:55:39] crossings. But also, call the
[1:55:42] SPVM and let them know so that
[1:55:43] they can put a police officer
[1:55:45] there. And you know, a ticket
[1:55:49] only lasts, only effects of
[1:55:50] person for three months. That's
[1:55:51] what the data shows. So it will
[1:55:53] be a recurring thing that you
[1:55:54] will have to do. But that's one
[1:55:56] of the most proactive ways that
[1:55:58] you can, as if citizen as well,
[1:56:03] implicate yourself with an
[1:56:04] issue.
[1:56:05] >> Okay, thank you for your
[1:56:08] suggestions.
[1:56:09] >> We're not going to keep going
[1:56:10] on this. Is there another
[1:56:12] debate?
[1:56:13] >> No. Just a final thought.
[1:56:16] From what I understand, you are
[1:56:18] saying that the onus is on
[1:56:21] residents and Council --
[1:56:24] >> No, that's not what's being
[1:56:26] said.
[1:56:27] >> That's the eight years of
[1:56:29] work that we've been doing.
[1:56:30] We've already been doing eight
[1:56:31] years of. It's a shared
[1:56:34] responsibility. I explained to
[1:56:36] you, to reassure you, of all the
[1:56:37] work that we do and still
[1:56:39] continue to do. But we just
[1:56:41] recognize it's a shared
[1:56:42] responsibility.
[1:56:43] >> The situation is actually
[1:56:47] deteriorating.
[1:56:48] >> Gave you the perfect
[1:56:50] opportunity to go to those areas
[1:56:52] and try to help.
[1:56:53] >> So it's up to me to call the
[1:56:56] police to report an intersection
[1:56:58] that I think is --
[1:57:01] >> If the officers call, if we
[1:57:03] are made aware, we call.
[1:57:05] >> We are all alerting the
[1:57:07] police all the time with the
[1:57:08] problem areas in the city. We
[1:57:10] are.
[1:57:11] >> The whole city is a problem
[1:57:13] area for pedestrians for
[1:57:15] crossing the street. Train
[1:57:19] stations, parks, schools.
[1:57:23] >> Okay, thanks.
[1:57:24] >> Thank you.
[1:57:37] Hello. Good evening ladies and
[1:57:39] gentlemen
[1:57:40] >>. This
[1:57:41] >> Is my first attendance.
[1:57:42] >> Excuse, me can you first
[1:57:44] state your name?
[1:57:45] >> If you want me to spell it I
[1:57:48] will. Adam A R W A when, and
[1:57:52] family name C H A T I L a. I'm
[1:58:06] living in Pointe-Claire --
[1:58:09] excuse me, could you refrain
[1:58:12] from discussing what someone
[1:58:13] else is asking a question?
[1:58:14] >> I started building in
[1:58:17] Pointe-Claire since four months
[1:58:18] in the Valois area. I think this
[1:58:21] is the district three, if I'm
[1:58:25] not mistaken. And I was living
[1:58:29] 30 years ago in Pointe-Claire. I
[1:58:35] worked in Dubai and the Middle
[1:58:37] East for 30 years and then I
[1:58:38] came back to Pointe-Claire
[1:58:41] because it is a deer area to me.
[1:58:44] Next to the sea, I call it C,
[1:58:47] even though it's just water, and
[1:58:50] this is where 30 years ago my
[1:58:53] two children were born in
[1:58:56] Lakeshore hospital. So I left 30
[1:59:00] years and I came back to the
[1:59:05] same source. We appreciate your
[1:59:09] efforts and import, all of you.
[1:59:14] I am here for two topics,
[1:59:16] followed by two questions. My
[1:59:22] prime priority topic is water.
[1:59:25] It's a very serious issue. Even
[1:59:29] if it is finished by the City of
[1:59:32] Montréal and even if we don't
[1:59:34] want to compare ourselves to
[1:59:37] others and we say the whole area
[1:59:40] or cities around us are using
[1:59:42] the same.
[2:01:59] In other words, feminism and
[2:02:02] environmentalism are huge issues
[2:02:04] that took over our world and it
[2:02:06] started, was led by the, people
[2:02:07] not by government. Governments
[2:02:09] responded, but the public will
[2:02:10] is the most powerful thing in
[2:02:12] the world, and if you think your
[2:02:16] issue is something that will
[2:02:19] take hold. --
[2:02:30] >> Personally, I don't have
[2:02:31] time, neither me, neither the
[2:02:34] other citizens, to make a
[2:02:36] coalition, to make
[2:02:37] demonstrations, and to go object
[2:02:41] at ministries. We need your
[2:02:43] support. We need a clear plan of
[2:02:50] action with a timetable, how
[2:02:53] this issue will be resolved A S
[2:02:56] A P.
[2:02:57] >> You can help with that plan
[2:02:59] and timetable, sir. There is no
[2:03:01] reason why you can't. There's no
[2:03:02] reason why you can't.
[2:03:04] >> Because I have other personal
[2:03:12] issues. I can dedicate all my
[2:03:15] time with a few citizens for
[2:03:17] this issue. I need the support
[2:03:21] of the Council of my city, which
[2:03:22] is called Pointe-Claire.
[2:03:24] >> We have studied the issue, we
[2:03:26] have already looked, at it and
[2:03:27] it is becoming a more prominent
[2:03:29] issue in Pointe-Claire, for
[2:03:30] sure.
[2:03:31] >> Are there some actions taken
[2:03:33] at least, about the action taken
[2:03:35] and what is expected?
[2:03:36] >> We have exchanged the
[2:03:38] science, all of, us in emails.
[2:03:39] We have all talked about. It
[2:03:41] >> Emails?
[2:03:42] >> We are all evaluating issue
[2:03:43] and trying to resolve where
[2:03:46] we're going.
[2:03:47] >> Is there a printed about the
[2:03:51] progress of these actions to be
[2:03:54] taken?
[2:03:55] >> No. They will be voted on.
[2:03:57] >> If you are in district 3,
[2:04:02] feel free to contact me and I
[2:04:03] will for you the links to the
[2:04:08] systematic review. Every
[2:04:10] scientific based research is
[2:04:11] taken into account that has been
[2:04:14] produced on the fluoride topic,
[2:04:15] item by item, to evaluate what
[2:04:17] is being said. You can go ahead
[2:04:21] -- Mr. Kellogg has shared with
[2:04:23] us information, other systems
[2:04:24] have shared with us different
[2:04:26] links to some of the different
[2:04:28] evidence that is out there as
[2:04:30] well as some of the information
[2:04:33] from dentists in the area. I
[2:04:34] will share all that I have with
[2:04:35] you so we know what we are
[2:04:36] looking at.
[2:04:37] >> Thank you, but are these
[2:04:41] matters to be shared, are they
[2:04:44] putting the whole issue
[2:04:47] questionable --
[2:04:49] >> Now, it's research that is
[2:04:51] there.
[2:04:52] >> A way to provide safe water?
[2:04:54] >> You see, it goes line by line
[2:04:55] of every issue related to
[2:04:57] fluoridation and so we are
[2:04:58] taking people's opinions and
[2:05:00] then we will bring it back to
[2:05:01] caucus and then at one point we
[2:05:05] will reach out to decide whether
[2:05:07] we are satisfied, it's all being
[2:05:09] taken into consideration..
[2:05:16] >> You had a few questions on
[2:05:18] this. You have two is there
[2:05:22] another question
[2:05:26] >> Concerning the ecological
[2:05:32] site. Searchers have been done
[2:05:37] and is there any continuation
[2:05:39] for this to do more digging, to
[2:05:44] do more discoveries, or is it
[2:05:47] just up there?
[2:05:48] >> Good question. Mid
[2:05:54] >> To be honest I know all the
[2:05:56] work has been completed and so
[2:05:59] far, from what I heard, and I
[2:06:02] don't think they were major
[2:06:05] findings because such a site has
[2:06:08] a lot of layers underneath.
[2:06:11] >> It's in the hands of
[2:06:13] professionals.
[2:06:14] >> And this is education and
[2:06:16] history and museum.
[2:06:19] >> It's not driven by the
[2:06:21] municipality of Pointe-Claire.
[2:06:23] It is totally independent. It is
[2:06:25] done by professionals.
[2:06:27] >> Yeah, I know. I know. But is
[2:06:31] it stopped or is it a continuous
[2:06:34] progress? As much as I searched,
[2:06:37] they will find more and more?
[2:06:38] >> The work has been, I think,
[2:06:41] completed. They are satisfied
[2:06:43] with what they have.
[2:06:46] >> Thank you sir.
[2:06:47] >> Okay.
[2:06:50] >> Thank you. Well,
[2:07:06] , 10.01, I believe?. Avis de
[2:07:14] motion et dépôt de projets de
[2:07:16] Règlement d'un emprunt à long
[2:07:17] terme et d'une dépensant
[2:07:19] mobilisation de 5 millions
[2:07:21] 925000 dollars pour des travaux
[2:07:23] d'infrastructures municipale à
[2:07:25] divers endroits de serveurs
[2:07:26] résidentiels. Les travaux visés
[2:07:28] entre autres la construction et
[2:07:30] la reconstruction, la réfection,
[2:07:33] la réhabilitation de trottoirs
[2:07:34] en bordure, dans les structures
[2:07:35] de béton, viaducs, pistes
[2:07:38] cyclables et service de type de
[2:07:41] conduite d'eau, sanitaires et
[2:07:42] pluviales
[2:07:43] (inaudible)
[2:07:44] (---)
[2:07:45] . Un des travaux connexes de
[2:07:46] même que la main-d'oeuvre à
[2:07:48] capacités
[2:07:49] (inaudible)
[2:07:50] (---)
[2:07:51] . Du secteur résidentiel de la
[2:07:52] Ville, le montant a financé
[2:07:54] remboursés par le billet d'une
[2:07:56] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la
[2:07:58] municipalité sur la base de la
[2:08:00] valeur foncière des immeubles
[2:08:02] imposables, et ce, sur une
[2:08:03] période de 20 ans.
[2:08:13] Of Highway 40, between Bancroft
[2:08:16] and comes the avenues, in
[2:08:19] industrial sector as well as
[2:08:20] long term borrowing in the
[2:08:22] amount of $1,610,000. The work
[2:08:28] targeted is in this project will
[2:08:30] improve the quality of the
[2:08:32] drinking water main in this
[2:08:35] industrial sector of the city of
[2:08:36] Pointe-Claire. This will greatly
[2:08:39] improve its structural capacity
[2:08:41] and water quality. The amount to
[2:08:43] be financed will be repaid to a
[2:08:45] local improvement tax over a
[2:08:48] 20-year period. But
[2:09:13] ... Mobilier, urbain,
[2:09:15] équipements de jeu, pistes
[2:09:16] cyclables, clôture, berge, plein
[2:09:19] tous partir, Denis, un droit de
[2:09:22] (---)
[2:09:23] etc.. Le montant a financé sera
[2:09:25] remboursé par le billet d'une
[2:09:26] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la
[2:09:29] municipalité sur la base de la
[2:09:31] valeur foncière des immeubles
[2:09:34] imposables, et ce, sur une
[2:09:35] période de 20 ans.
[2:09:37] >>
[2:09:38] Ten or four notices of motion
[2:09:39] filing of drab bylaw decreeing
[2:09:40] the existing execution of phase
[2:09:41] one of the Public Works Building
[2:09:43] extension, as well as long term
[2:09:45] borrowing in the amount of 5
[2:09:47] million, $500,000. The Public
[2:09:51] Works building innovation
[2:09:52] project involves the
[2:09:54] construction of six new bays and
[2:09:56] service spaces for mechanical
[2:09:59] sports shop and delivery dock,
[2:10:01] expansion of the outdated rooms,
[2:10:05] relocation and we moulding in
[2:10:07] the and electrical plumbing
[2:10:10] spaces rebuilding of the office
[2:10:11] space and addition and
[2:10:14] integration of universal
[2:10:16] accessibility the. Amount to be
[2:10:18] financed will be reimbursed
[2:10:20] through a tax levied on the
[2:10:22] entire municipality based, on
[2:10:23] property value of taxable
[2:10:25] buildings over a period of 20
[2:10:27] years.
[2:10:28] 10.05 Avis de motion et dépôt
[2:10:29] d'un projet de règlement
[2:10:30] décrétant un emprunt à long
[2:10:31] terme et une dépense en
[2:10:32] immobilisations de 3265000 $
[2:10:33] pour des travaux de
[2:10:34] reconstruction dans le chemin du
[2:10:36] Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore, entre
[2:10:38] Coolbreeze et Lakeview. Dans le
[2:10:43] cadre d'un projet majeur de la
[2:10:44] Ville de Montréal qui s'étalera
[2:10:46] sur une période de plusieurs
[2:10:50] années et où ils construiront un
[2:10:53] aqueduc de 900 millimètres de
[2:10:55] diamètre selon deux tracés
[2:10:57] spécifiques touchant notre
[2:10:58] municipalité, nous en profitons
[2:11:00] pour réintégrer nos besoins en
[2:11:01] infrastructures. Le but de ce
[2:11:02] projet est de remplacer des
[2:11:05] conduites d'aqueduc, d'égouts
[2:11:06] sanitaires et pluviales,
[2:11:08] reconstruire l'aborder de la
[2:11:09] chaussure et uniquement si cela
[2:11:11] est approprié. Le montant
[2:11:13] financé sera remboursé par le
[2:11:15] billet d'une taxe imposée à la
[2:11:16] valeur de la municipalité...
[2:11:17] pardon, à l'ensemble de la
[2:11:19] municipalité à hauteur de la
[2:11:21] valeur des immeubles
[2:11:22] >> Do I have someone who can
[2:11:23] imposables et give ce, pour une
[2:11:24] valeur... notice of d'une durée
[2:11:26] de 20 ans. Motion for 10.01
[2:11:28] Two 10.05? I
[2:11:29] >> Give notice of motion for
[2:11:33] filing of 10.01 two 10.05 team.
[2:11:38] 10.06 Adoption, avec
[2:11:39] modification, d'un règlement
[2:11:40] décrétant les tarifs exigibles
[2:11:41] pour le financement de biens,
[2:11:42] services et activités offerts
[2:11:43] par la Ville de Pointe-Claire
[2:11:44] pour l'exercice financier 2023.
[2:11:50] Donc c'est l'adoption ce soir,
[2:11:53] suite au dépôt du projet qui a
[2:11:55] eu lieu à la séance régulière de
[2:11:56] septembre, une modification a
[2:11:59] été apportée entre le projet
[2:12:01] déposé et l'adoption de ce soir,
[2:12:04] donc l'ajout à l'annexe un d'un
[2:12:06] élément qui s'intitule: frais
[2:12:09] exigible lorsqu'un employé de la
[2:12:10] Ville doit se déplacer pour lire
[2:12:13] un compteur d'eau en raison
[2:12:14] d'une installation non conforme
[2:12:16] du compteur d'eau, frais requis
[2:12:18] de 100 dollars.
[2:12:19] >> Do I have a mover?
[2:12:26] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:12:28] district 3.
[2:12:32] >>
[2:12:33] - O.K., excuse, je m'excuse.
[2:12:42] 10.07 an architectural
[2:12:44] integration plan. Building of
[2:12:46] heritage interest. 72 brought to
[2:12:48] you and the new, exterior event
[2:12:50] renovations, 105 Prince Edward
[2:12:53] Avenue, construction of a double
[2:12:57] garage enlargement of driveway.
[2:13:00] When 18 Broadway Avenue,
[2:13:02] replacing existing driveway,
[2:13:04] 1:50 to, like four road,
[2:13:07] extension and renovations, nine
[2:13:09] cavil Avenue extension and
[2:13:12] renovation.
[2:13:14] >> Do I have a mover?
[2:13:20] >> Cynthia Homan,
[2:13:21] - Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[2:13:22] District district 5.
[2:13:23] >> All in favour?
[2:13:25] Les personnes présentes peuvent
[2:13:26] s'adresser au conseil concernant
[2:13:27] les sujets ci-dessous pour les
[2:13:28] items 10.08 à 10.12:
[2:13:35] >> Here under from the items
[2:13:39] 10.09 to
[2:13:46] 10.12. Il n'y. A plus de micro?
[2:13:53] - Excuse-moi, Patrick. Patrick,
[2:13:55] dû the
[2:13:56] Remettre le... merci, Patrick.
[2:14:00] Peux-tu remettre le...
[2:14:06] - François leur, complexe
[2:14:09] Pointe-Claire, sur la rue
[2:14:10] Saint-Jean. On a fait une
[2:14:12] demande de rénovation mineure,
[2:14:14] honnêtement, je ne suis jamais
[2:14:15] venu aux séances, je ne suis pas
[2:14:16] sûr de comment ça fonctionne. Je
[2:14:18] crois qu'on m'a donné une
[2:14:19] lettre, je crois que vous allez
[2:14:20] avoir des suggestions ou des
[2:14:22] recommandations pour
[2:14:24] l'approbation... non, je pensais
[2:14:25] que vous étiez pour intervenir,
[2:14:27] excusez-moi! Donc je voulais
[2:14:29] juste... dire un peu plus que...
[2:14:32] dans un cas comme on présente ce
[2:14:33] soir, le 755 ces gens, qui est
[2:14:36] de pouvoir afficher un de nos
[2:14:38] locateurs majeur dans l'édifice,
[2:14:39] c'est vraiment important pour
[2:14:42] notre business et notre façon de
[2:14:44] travailler, leur façon de
[2:14:45] travailler, on a souvent des
[2:14:47] problèmes sur le fait que la
[2:14:48] plupart de nos locataires ne
[2:14:49] peuvent pas s'afficher. Celui de
[2:14:51] ce soir, c'est juste un
[2:14:53] locataire, c'est le plus gros
[2:14:54] locataire qu'on a de... dans
[2:14:57] l'édifice, j'espère que ça va
[2:14:59] fonctionner. Merci.
[2:15:02] - Monsieur
[2:15:03] >> Mr. Sandy?
[2:15:04] Séguin?
[2:15:05] - Si vous voulez me laisser vos
[2:15:06] coordonnées, puis est-ce que
[2:15:07] vous avez une carte d'affaires?
[2:15:09] Je vais demander à mes collègues
[2:15:11] du département de l'urbanisme de
[2:15:13] communiquer avec vous. Le
[2:15:17] conseil doit se prononcer ce
[2:15:18] soir, mais on aimerait pouvoir
[2:15:20] communiquer avec vous par la
[2:15:21] suite.
[2:15:32] 10.09 Considérer une demande de
[2:15:33] dérogation mineure pour
[2:15:34] permettre au 302-306, chemin du
[2:15:35] Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore: a) Une
[2:15:36] allée de circulation d'une
[2:15:37] largeur de 6,4 mètres plutôt que
[2:15:38] le minimum requis de 6,6 mètres;
[2:15:41] b) Une aire de stationnement à
[2:15:42] 2.5 mètres de la marge avant
[2:15:44] secondaire plutôt que le minimum
[2:15:45] requis de 3 mètres; c) Une aire
[2:15:47] de stationnement à 0 mètre de la
[2:15:48] limite de lot arrière plutôt que
[2:15:50] le minimum requis de 1.5 mètre.
[2:15:55] Vous avez une recommandation à
[2:15:57] l'effet de refuser la dérogation
[2:16:00] mineure.
[2:16:05] >> 10.10 consider minor
[2:16:09] exemption to 15 F Cartier
[2:16:11] Avenue, the installation of a
[2:16:13] sign above the common entrance
[2:16:14] for a non-ground floor
[2:16:18] establishment. The
[2:16:20] recommendation is to refuse the
[2:16:22] 10.11 Considérer une demande de
[2:16:23] dérogation mineure request.
[2:16:24] Pour permettre au 9, avenue
[2:16:25] Cavell: a) Une allée d'accès
[2:16:27] pour véhicules d'une largeur non
[2:16:29] constante à partir de la
[2:16:30] bordure, jusqu'à 60 centimètres
[2:16:32] à l'intérieur de la limite de
[2:16:33] propriété plutôt qu'une largeur
[2:16:35] constante sur cette même
[2:16:36] distance; b) Un accès pour
[2:16:38] véhicules d'une largeur de 15
[2:16:39] mètres plutôt que le maximum
[2:16:40] permis de 6,1 mètres. Donc c'est
[2:16:46] la question à laquelle madame...
[2:16:52] Kelly Thorstad-Cullen a répondu
[2:16:54] tard tout à l'heure, régler une
[2:16:57] situation existante depuis les
[2:16:58] années 2000. Vous avez une
[2:17:01] recommandation favorable
[2:17:02] d'accepter la demande de
[2:17:03] dérogation mineure.
[2:17:07] And turn 10.12 12, consider a
[2:17:11] minor exemption request to
[2:17:13] permit at 755 scents on
[2:17:16] boulevard. A monument signed
[2:17:18] identifying a name other than
[2:17:19] the name of the building. Be,
[2:17:21] the installation of said
[2:17:22] monument sign where it is not
[2:17:26] permitted. But in the pack
[2:17:28] recommendation is to refuse the
[2:17:31] request.
[2:17:32] >> Do I have a mover? Brent
[2:17:41] >> Brent Cowan, district 8, I
[2:17:42] refused to accept the
[2:17:46] recommendation to refuse 10.10
[2:17:48] and approve 10.11 and refuse
[2:17:51] 10.12.
[2:17:52] >> All in favour?
[2:18:03] - 20.01
[2:18:04] >>?
[2:18:05] - May I, for just one second? Si
[2:18:07] vous me laissez vos coordonnées,
[2:18:09] les gens vont vous... contacter,
[2:18:12] expliquer en détail. Ce n'est
[2:18:17] pas votre nom? À, O.K.. On va
[2:18:22] communiquer avec vous.
[2:18:27] - 20.01.
[2:18:33] - Déposer la liste des
[2:18:34] amendements budgétaires pour la
[2:18:35] période du 25 août
[2:18:36] 2022 au 21 septembre 2022 et le
[2:18:37] registre des chèques pour la
[2:18:40] période du 25 août 2022 au 21
[2:18:41] septembre 2022.
[2:19:10] 20.03 Autoriser l'accès à Mon
[2:19:12] Dossier à Revenu Québec pour le
[2:19:13] compte de la ville.
[2:19:25] >> 20.04, appointee access to
[2:19:30] the documents held by public
[2:19:31] bodies on the 20.05 protection
[2:19:32] of Autoriser la participation
[2:19:33] d'une personal information
[2:19:34] employée de la ville au congrès
[2:19:35] du Comité francophone et du
[2:19:36] Comité national du club de
[2:19:37] lecture d'été TD qui committee
[2:19:38] se tiendra à Winnipeg.. 20 or
[2:19:39] five authorized the
[2:19:40] participation of one city
[2:19:41] employee the francophone
[2:19:45] Committee. 2006, authorized
[2:19:49] participation of three city
[2:19:51] employees at the annual national
[2:19:55] coaching 20.07 Autoriser un
[2:19:56] amendement participation
[2:19:57] budgétaire afin de financer les
[2:19:58] dépenses opérationnelles
[2:19:59] mécaniques et de menuiserie afin
[2:20:00] de compléter l'année fiscale
[2:20:01] 2022. Program conference to be
[2:20:02] held in Ottawa.
[2:20:14] 20.08, grants financial port for
[2:20:19] the 54th annual baked beans day
[2:20:20] le montant organized by the du
[2:20:22] support financier est un montant
[2:20:23] de 1040 dollars.
[2:20:24] Fraternity de Police Police
[2:20:26] 20.09 the Montréal Nommer un
[2:20:27] membre au sein du comité de
[2:20:28] démolition..
[2:20:34] >> Do I have a mover?
[2:20:36] >> One specific information, the
[2:20:40] nomination to appoint Mr. Cowan
[2:20:42] to the committee.
[2:20:43] >> I propose items 20.02 to
[2:20:58] 20.09. All in favour?
[2:21:02] >> 30.01 has been removed from
[2:21:04] the agenda. 30.02 Approuver un
[2:21:06] protocole d'entente à intervenir
[2:21:07] entre la Ville de Pointe-Claire
[2:21:08] et le Club de canoë kayak de
[2:21:09] Pointe-Claire inc.
[2:21:19] 30.03 approve an agreement
[2:21:26] to be entered into between the
[2:21:27] city of Pointe-Claire and Angelo
[2:21:29] Key vandals for a restaurant
[2:21:31] food concessions services at
[2:21:40] --
[2:21:41] >> Do I have
[2:21:42] (inaudible)
[2:21:43] a mover?
[2:21:44] (---)
[2:21:45] .
[2:21:46] >> Eric
[2:21:47] Stork, district seven.
[2:21:48] >> Carrie Thorstad-Cullen, 30.04
[2:21:51] Se prévaloir de l'option de
[2:21:52] renouvellement district 3.
[2:21:53] Prévue au contrat intervenu avec
[2:21:54] Documents Traduction inc., pour
[2:21:55] des services professionnels de
[2:21:56] traduction, pour l'année 2023,
[2:21:57] pour un montant total de
[2:21:58] 115262,44 $, taxes incluses.
[2:21:59] >>
[2:22:00] 30.05 painting and standing
[2:22:01] services for find your hydrants
[2:22:02] for the year 2023, for a total
[2:22:05] amount of $15,694.09, taxes
[2:22:13] included. 30.06 Octroyer un
[2:22:16] contrat pour le montage, le
[2:22:17] démontage, les réparations,
[2:22:18] l'achat d'articles connexes et
[2:22:19] l'exécution de travaux
[2:22:20] imprévisibles des structures
[2:22:21] marines de la Ville, pour les
[2:22:22] années 2023, 2024 et 2025, à
[2:22:25] Indy-Co, pour un montant total
[2:22:26] de 254546,03 $, taxes incluses.
[2:22:39] 30.06 30 or seven award of
[2:22:40] contract for catch basin
[2:22:41] cleaning and pumping services to
[2:22:50] the BIA in viral tech inked.
[2:22:56] 30.08 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:22:57] des services professionnels de
[2:22:58] photos et vidéos, pour l'année
[2:22:59] 2023, à Pénéga Communications
[2:23:00] inc., pour un montant total de
[2:23:01] 123310,69 $, taxes incluses,
[2:23:02] avec option de renouvellement
[2:23:03] pour l'année 2024.
[2:23:08] --
[2:23:15] , 30.09 a word of contract for
[2:23:19] the installation removal of
[2:23:20] Christmas decorations across the
[2:23:21] city to mow facts elected
[2:23:23] economy day for a total amount
[2:23:28] of $50,000 $428.04, taxes
[2:23:31] included. 30.10 Approuver des
[2:23:36] modifications au contrat
[2:23:37] intervenu avec Réalisation
[2:23:38] Dynamique inc., pour la
[2:23:39] construction d'une aire de jeu
[2:23:40] d'eau au parc Augusta, pour un
[2:23:41] montant total de 1207,24 $,
[2:23:42] taxes incluses.
[2:23:46] >> Do I have a mover?
[2:23:48] >> I move items 30.05 to 30.10.
[2:23:54] >> Seconder?
[2:23:57] >> Eric Stork, district 7.
[2:23:58] >> All in favour?
[2:24:07] >>
[2:24:08] For
[2:24:11] >>, 30.11 a prove change orders
[2:24:13] to the contract undertaken with
[2:24:15] energy air inc. for phase two of
[2:24:17] the contract for the supply and
[2:24:19] installation of L.E.D. street
[2:24:20] lights through the group urges
[2:24:22] program of the Federation
[2:24:23] Québécois de municipally day for
[2:24:25] a total amount 30.12 of
[2:24:26] Approuver des modifications au
[2:24:27] contrat intervenu avec Transport
[2:24:28] JR Cyr & Fils inc., pour des
[2:24:29] services d'entrepreneur général
[2:24:30] pour la réalisation de fouilles
[2:24:31] archéologiques, pour un montant
[2:24:32] total de 18774,45 $, taxes
[2:24:33] incluses. $29,279.81, taxes
[2:24:34] included.
[2:24:49] 30.12
[2:24:59] 30.13 yeah, 30.14, Approuver une
[2:25:01] modification au contrat approval
[2:25:02] intervenu avec Réhabilitation Du
[2:25:03] O inc., change order to the pour
[2:25:04] la reconstruction de la chaussée
[2:25:05] de l'avenue Bancroft, contract
[2:25:06] entered into pour un montant
[2:25:07] total de 5044,60 $, taxes
[2:25:08] incluses. With Xerox Canada
[2:25:09] limited for the purchase of
[2:25:10] information technology,
[2:25:11] equipment, for a total amount of
[2:25:12] $50,000, taxes included.
[2:25:28] 30. 15, approve a change order
[2:25:33] to the contract entered into
[2:25:36] with a renovations lender
[2:25:38] costing for order culture
[2:25:40] maintenance works and machinery
[2:25:41] rental for the terracotta
[2:25:43] natural Park.
[2:25:44] >> And seconder? Cowan, 30.16
[2:25:54] district 8 Approuver une
[2:25:55] modification au contrat
[2:25:56] intervenu avec Troicé
[2:25:57] Construction inc., pour la
[2:25:58] construction d'un. Bâtiment
[2:25:59] sanitaire au parc Augusta, pour
[2:26:00] un montant total de 30300,79 $,
[2:26:01] taxes incluses.
[2:26:03] Who
[2:26:10] 30. 17, approve a change to the
[2:26:16] contract entered into with
[2:26:18] mechanical exemption for the
[2:26:19] replacement of the boilers city
[2:26:21] all, for a total amount of
[2:26:25] $11,980.16, taxes included.
[2:26:28] 30.18 Modifier la résolution
[2:26:29] 2022-455 afin de retirer la
[2:26:30] partie de la commande octroyée à
[2:26:31] FCA Canada inc. pour un montant
[2:26:32] total de 701156,64 $, taxes
[2:26:33] incluses.
[2:26:50] Approve the evaluation criteria
[2:26:51] to be used within the framework
[2:26:52] of a call for tenders for
[2:26:55] professional services for the
[2:26:56] carrying out of a traffic study
[2:26:57] in the Pointe-Claire Village
[2:26:59] area.
[2:27:04] >> Do I have a mover mover?
[2:27:06] >> I move to approve 30 16 and
[2:27:14] 30 17. At 30 18 and also moved
[2:27:17] to approve 30 19.
[2:27:24] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:27:25] district 3.
[2:27:26] >> All in favour? 50.01, Déposer
[2:27:29] la liste des changements au
[2:27:30] personnel par décisions
[2:27:31] déléguées pour le mois d'octobre
[2:27:32] 2022, telle que préparée par
[2:27:33] monsieur Vincent Proulx,
[2:27:34] Directeur - ressources
[2:27:35] >> Humaines.
[2:27:39] >> 50 oh, to approve the list of
[2:27:42] non delegated staff changes as
[2:27:44] of October 4th, 2022.
[2:27:47] >> Do I have a mover?
[2:27:48] >> Eric Stork, district seven
[2:27:52] and.
[2:27:53] >>? Second or
[2:27:54] >> Je seconde, Bruno Tremblay,
[2:27:55] district six.
[2:28:00] Tremblay, district 6.
[2:28:01] >> Those no item under the
[2:28:03] various section. Do I have a
[2:28:05] mover to close the meeting?
[2:28:08] >> I move to approve, district
[2:28:11] four.
[2:28:14] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:28:15] district 3. All in
[2:28:16] - Favour?
[2:28:17] >> Good. Bonsoir, tout le
[2:28:18] >> Good night everybody.
[2:28:19] Monde!