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Avant de débuter la séance du

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conseil, je dois revenir sur une

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plainte au sujet d'un écart de

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langage de ma part qui a été

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porté à l'attention des médias

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et de la communauté et les

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personnes qui me connaissent,

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incluant celles de la communauté

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juive savent bel et bien que je

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ne suis pas antisémite et que

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mes intentions n'ont jamais été

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antisémites, cela n'excuse pas

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le mauvais choix de mots que

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j'ai utilisés dans le cadre de

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réunions privées. Je tiens à

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m'excuser auprès de tout seul et

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ce que j'ai offensé. Cela a

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généré beaucoup de réactions.

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J'ai dû m'expliquer et m'excuser

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à plusieurs reprises, sur

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plusieurs tribunes, ce qui est

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lourd à gérer. Aujourd'hui, j'en

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parle et je m'excuse

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publiquement pour une dernière

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fois. Je reprend avec force le

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rôle pour lequel j'ai été élu.

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>> Before we start this council

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meeting, I must bring up again a

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complaint about the

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inappropriate language I use

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that has been brought to the

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attention of the media and

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community. People in --

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including those in the Jewish

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community knows that I am not an

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antisemite and that my intention

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was never to be antisemitic.

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However, that does not excuse

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the poor choice of words I used

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in a previous meeting and I

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would like to apologize to

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anyone I offended. This resulted

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in many reactions. And I had to

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explain apologize on several

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occasions, on several off forms,

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which has been all consuming.

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one last time and will now

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firmly resume the role for which

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Il y a un bien triste

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anniversaire à souligner, le 6

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décembre 1989, un homme armé a

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assassiné 14 forme à l'École

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polytechnique de Montréal.

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étaient des femmes.

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les cols et le comité mémoire

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rendent hommage aux victimes.

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Une levée de fonds appelé la

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semaine de la rose blanche a été

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mise sur pied afin de recueillir

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des dons pour permettre à des

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moins aisés de participer à une

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scientifique pour développer

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leur curiosité et leurs intérêts

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génie. Nous soulignons cet

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anniversaire en souhaitant

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qu'une telle événement ne se

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reproduise jamais.

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that of December 6th,, 1989,

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when a gunman murdered 14 women

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Montréal, simply because they

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were women. Silver -- ever since

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this tragedy, the -- and this --

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week of the white roses set up

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young girls from disadvantaged

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communities to participate in

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camp to develop their curiosity

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engineering. We mark this

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anniversary by wishing that this

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type of event never happens

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au sujet du budget. Il y aura

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trois séances extraordinaires ce

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mois-ci, dès le 19 décembre pour

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taxation, un troisième le 21

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réglementation de la taxation.

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fait en sorte que les activités

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de budget et de taxation doivent

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se tenir à des dates

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différentes. Ces présentations

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arrive tardivement cette année,

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car nous devons attendre que la

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de la Cour la... gomme et ration

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vont augmenter. Les détails de

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l'est ait impact sur votre

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compte de taxes vous seront

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présentés à la fin du mois.

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first two, on December 19th, for

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adoption of the budget, and the

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deposit of a motion for taxation

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and a third one on the 21st to

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budget and taxation activities

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this year because we had to wait

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order to receive the indication

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budget and its impact on your

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tax bill would be presented to

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ville, nous avons des activités

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participatives pour les citoyens

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qui sont en cours. D'autres s'en

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planification stratégique et le

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planification stratégique. Cet

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exercice vise à les principales

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perceptions des citoyens et

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citoyennes sur les forces,

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faiblesses et défie de

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les principales préoccupations

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citoyennes. Présentement, nous

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poursuivons les activités en vue

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de cette planification. Il y a

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téléphonique en cour.

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exercice, je tiens à les

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de l'année 2023. C'est cette

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notre site Internet. Il est

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le site pour participer aux

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main perceptions of citizens

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officials to get a better

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employees and elected officials

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will have participated in this

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publicly. To follow up on this

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strategic planning, we are

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urban planning program that will

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territory of Pointe-Claire. You

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de la COP 15. Il s'agit d'une

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Convention des Nations Unies sur

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la biodiversité qui se tiendra,

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décembre. Les nombreux

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participants qu'on prenne des

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représentants gouvernementaux,

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scientifique, des gens du monde

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des affaires, des

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universitaires, des organismes

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communautaires, des citoyens. Le

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but de ce rendez-vous est de

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fixer des objectifs fédéral

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abhorrer un plan d'action pour

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protéger l'écosystème fragile,

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la biodiversité de notre monde

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est essentiel à toute vie sur

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Terre. La nature est en crise.

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affectent toutes les facettes de

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notre vie quotidienne et elles

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ne peuvent plus être ignorées.

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commencions, ici à

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Pointe-Claire, à recentrer la...

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les priorités de notre ville

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afin de sauvegarder les systèmes

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naturels qu'on compte pour notre

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exercice sens pour demeurer sain

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et disponible pour les

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générations à venir. Sosa, au

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cours des trois prochaines

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années, je travaillerai aux...

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avec les membres du conseil et

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la administration de la Ville

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pour placer l'environnement au

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cours de notre réflexion et de

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notre planifie canadien.

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Planification. Nous nous

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joignons aux municipalités du

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Québec et du Canada, et du monde

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pour faire face aux enjeux

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pressants liés aux changements

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climatiques.

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santé de nos rives, les nombreux

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oiseaux, reptiles et animaux,

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insecte, plantes et espaces

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naturels qui partage cette ville

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avec nous, il est temps de

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devenir proactif et d'aller

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au-delà de ce que nous avons

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fait jusqu'à présent.

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Il est temps de redécouvrir

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notre relation avec la nature et

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de garder Pointe-Claire une

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ville Belle et florissante que

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nous connaissons.

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J'ai hâte d'entreprendre ce

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voyage avec vous tous.

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Tomorrow, December 7th, marks

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the first day of cop 15. --

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participants include government

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officials, scientists, members

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of businesses and industry,

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scholars, community

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organizations, as well as

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citizens. The purpose of COP15

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is to set new goals and develop

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an action plan to protect our

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worlds fragile ecosystems and

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biodiversity, essential to a

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life on earth. Nature is in

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crisis. Environmental issues

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affect every facet of our daily

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lives and they can no longer be

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ignored. And so, it is time that

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we begin here in Pointe-Claire,

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to refocus and realign our

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city's priorities in order to

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safeguard the natural systems we

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rely on for very existence and

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that they will remain healthy

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unavailable for generations to

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come. Consequently, this evening

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I am announcing that over the

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next three years I will work

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with council members on the

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City's administration to put the

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environment at the forefront of

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our thinking and planning. In

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doing so, we joined the numerous

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municipalities throughout

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Québec, Canada and the world in

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tackling the pressing issues

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around climate change. From the

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air we breathe, to the health of

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our shoreline, from the many

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birds, reptiles, animals,

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insects, to the plants and

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natural spaces that share the

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city with us, it is time to

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become proactive and to go

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beyond what we have done so far.

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relationship with their future

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and to keep Pointe-Claire the

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beautiful in flushing city we

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know to be. I look forward to

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embarking on this journey with

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you all. Thank you for your

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attention. And now, Madam Clerk,

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we can begin a regular council

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meeting.

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01.01 Approuver l'ordre du jour.

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>> Approve the agenda, change --

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le retrait de points 10-04 --

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10.04 Avis de motion et dépôt

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d'un projet de règlement.

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>> Do we have a mover?

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>> Eric Stork, district seven.

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- 04.01 Approuver la version

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française et la version anglaise

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du procès-verbal de la séance

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ordinaire du 8 novembre 2022.

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>> Do we have

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>> -- district two.

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>> -- Eric Stork, district

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seven.

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>> All in favour?

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>> -- French in English versions

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of the Pointe-Claire

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Pointe-Claire Public Library

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advisory board meeting, of --

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française et la version anglaise

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du procès-verbal de la réunion

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du comité consultatif de Stewart

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Hall du 9 novembre 2022.

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04.04 Déposer et approuver la

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version française et la version

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anglaise du procès-verbal de la

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réunion du comité de circulation

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du 8 novembre 2022. -- improve

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the French and English version

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8th, 2022..

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>> Question period --

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Pour la période de questions,

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nous gardons 90 minutes pour

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cette période. Nous commencerons

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par les questions des résidents

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de Pointe-Claire et n'aborderons

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que les questions des promoteurs

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après avoir répondu à celle-ci.

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>> For question period, we shall

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stick to the 90 minutes time

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period for questions. For

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question period, will begin with

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questions from Pointe-Claire

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residents and address questions

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from developers only after these

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have been answered. Okay.

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>> -- fourth, district four,

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question for Maria, who cannot

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be here, and we do not allow

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email questions. So, I will ask

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your question for her. She would

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like to know if the meetings on

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the strategic plan will

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accommodate people with special

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needs.

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>> I would hope so.

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>> So, you don't know?

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>> I would certainly think that

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we will?

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>> Yes?

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>> Yes.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Okay, Susan, Pointe-Claire, I

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have one preamble, approximately

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two minutes, with one question

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and a second question. Okay? Mr.

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Thomas, I was disgusted but not

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surprised by the antisemitic

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slur that you had made at a

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recent caucus meeting. Caucus

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meetings might be closed or, but

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-- offended by remark. And as

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per usual, you try to intimidate

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her by saying that she was

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exaggerating and dramatic. Over

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the past year, you have shown

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that you are unfit to be a

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mayor. Last march, he wanted

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Council to give Mr. Lionel out

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of $5,000 for his Pointe-Claire

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journal. He spent a year

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promoting new and attacking

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longtime members of Council. The

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paper has since folded. July,

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you had a -- at citizens at --

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stating that you and your

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political advisor would meet

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with him. I asked you about the

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advisory. You denied having an

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adviser, skirted the issue and

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condescendingly said to me, what

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am I going to do with you, Mrs.

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Weaver? In September, being the

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rookie that you said you are,

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you sent your jealous and angry

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email to all employees and

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elected officials. And are your

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most recent behaviour, a

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degrading slur. These are just a

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few. Past history has shown that

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as a citizen, you never attended

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council meetings other than

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during the time of the pioneer,

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where you took time to showcase

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yourself and grandstand. Prior

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to last year's election, so many

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people had told me that you were

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an abusive man and I could not

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condone that. I wondered about

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your credentials, not deserving

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of my vote. In office, you

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continue to listen to only those

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of you who work to elect you

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rather than trying to

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collaborate and listen to

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democratically elected

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councillors, especially those

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who were reelected with years of

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experience. I have regularly

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attended and followed council

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meetings for 12 years. I might

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not have always agreed with past

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councils, but when I left a

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meeting, whether it was -- for

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Mr. Trudeau or Mr. Belvedere, I

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felt that the city was in good

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hands. Not with you. You are the

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reason the city is divided. We

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didn't newspaper articles and

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letters to the editor say that

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some once you've gone. They

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change the narrative to protect

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the character and hide you are

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the grading slur. I four, one,

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do not want to Pointe-Claire go

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through another expensive

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election. But I really do not

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know what is best for our city.

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My question -- will you write a

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formal apology considering

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concerning your last

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misdemeanour?

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>> Mrs. weaver, you have said a

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lot of things, unsubstantiated,

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uncorroborated and without

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evidence. And it is horrible to

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speak to someone in that manner

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with no evidence and no

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confirmation of what you are

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throwing at me. And if you want

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to talk about smears, you just

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engaged in a huge one. As for

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all employees and elected

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officials, that's factually

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wrong. As for Council meetings,

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I attended all of the council

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meetings, all of them. I may be

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missed two in the entire

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timeframe. So, maybe we're not

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there when I was there the whole

558
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000
time. As for the abusive man,

559
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000
that goes into smear. I have a

560
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000
lifetime body of performance as

561
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000
a human being and have done my

562
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000
best to be a decent one. And

563
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000
what has been confirmed in the

564
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
last couple of weeks is that I

565
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000
have been one, because a lot of

566
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
really decent people have waited

567
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000
for me. As for collaborating

568
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000
with Council, I have done

569
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000
nothing but. I have done nothing

570
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000
but. And as for past councils,

571
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000
you are on record as having said

572
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000
horrible things about other

573
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,060
mayors and I can pull it up for

574
00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:03,060
you. So, Mrs. Weaver, there is

575
00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:06,060
your answer to your question.

576
00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:08,060
>> Okay. That wasn't answered.

577
00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:09,060
But, okay, on to my second

578
00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:11,060
question.

579
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:12,060
>> Okay. I

580
00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:14,060
>> Attended the September

581
00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:15,060
council meeting, who shouted,

582
00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:18,060
while Ms. we Tedford speaking --

583
00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:21,060
I was also the parking lot after

584
00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:22,060
the meeting. Is there a public

585
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:23,060
security report for the incident

586
00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,060
you had mentioned --

587
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:29,060
>> I would think. So

588
00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:31,060
>> Mr. -- do we have a public

589
00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:32,060
security report for that

590
00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:33,060
incident?

591
00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:34,060
>> --

592
00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:35,060
>> You don't know?

593
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:38,060
>> Madame -- you don't know

594
00:21:38,060 --> 00:21:39,060
either? Good question. We will

595
00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:42,060
find that out.

596
00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:48,060
Bonjour, mon nom est Suzanne

597
00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:53,060
Wilson. Concernant le fluor,

598
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:54,060
j'ai appelé au ministère de la

599
00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:59,060
santé publique.

600
00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:05,020
Quelles sont les dernières

601
00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:06,020
études scientifiques qui ont été

602
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:09,020
faites sur le fluor? Elle a

603
00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:10,020
fouillé ces documents et n'a

604
00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:12,020
rien trouvé. On m'a transféré.

605
00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:15,020
On m'a dit d'appeler à hauts et

606
00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:16,020
environnement. C'est ce que j'ai

607
00:22:16,020 --> 00:22:19,020
fait. J'ai parlé à une

608
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:21,020
inspectrice. On m'a dit que ça

609
00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:22,020
faisait plus de 40 ans qu'il n'y

610
00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:24,020
avait pas d'études là-dessus.

611
00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:31,020
Là-dessus, pour payer tant par

612
00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,020
année pour le fluor, vous payez

613
00:22:33,020 --> 00:22:34,020
un employé affectés au fluor à

614
00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,020
l'usine.

615
00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:41,020
Y a-t-il une corrélation? Le

616
00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:43,020
fluor dans l'eau, la pâte à

617
00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:44,020
dents et le fluor, c'est venu en

618
00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:46,020
même temps.

619
00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:48,020
Pensez-vous que ce n'est pas à

620
00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:51,020
cause de la pâte à dents? Ce

621
00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:53,020
n'est pas le fluor vraiment. Si

622
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:55,020
tu ne te brosses pas les dents

623
00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:58,020
et que tu prends de l'eau

624
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,020
fluorée, tu auras des dans

625
00:22:59,020 --> 00:23:01,080
Carrier. La controverse est

626
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080
qu'il y a plein d'études qui

627
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080
disent que il y a la thyroïde,

628
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080
l'ostéoporose.

629
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,080
Ça fait diminuer le quotient

630
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,080
intellectuel, ça crée de

631
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,080
l'ostéoporose.

632
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,080
Étant donné la controverse,

633
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,080
pourquoi n'arrêtez-vous pas le

634
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,080
fluor?

635
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,080
- Après cette controverse, on

636
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,080
est à

637
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,080
(inaudible)

638
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,080
(---)

639
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080
. L'agglomération est

640
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,080
responsable pour le fluor dans

641
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,080
l'eau. Ce n'est pas nous. On

642
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
n'est pas responsable. Nous

643
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080
avons contacté l'agglomération.

644
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,080
Nous avons parlé avec

645
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,080
l'agglomération. De ce que je

646
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080
comprends, il y aura une

647
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,080
décision en 2023 ans au sujet du

648
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,080
fluor dans l'eau de

649
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,080
Pointe-Claire. C'est

650
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,080
l'agglomération qui décide. Ce

651
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,040
n'est pas nous.

652
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,040
On a le pouvoir de parler

653
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040
seulement. C'est ce qu'on a

654
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040
fait.

655
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,040
- Pourquoi les autres villes ont

656
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,040
décidé?

657
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,040
- Parce qu'on était chanceux, à

658
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
l'époque, quand ils ont commencé

659
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,040
le fluor. On a été gâté.

660
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:23,040
- C'est le contraire.

661
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040
- Les scientifiques sont en

662
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,040
train de décider. C'est dans les

663
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,040
mains de l'agglomération, ce

664
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040
n'est pas nous. Madame, ce n'est

665
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,040
pas nous. Il faut parler à

666
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,040
l'agglomération au sujet du

667
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,040
fluor.

668
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,040
- À la Ville de Montréal, ils

669
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040
n'en ont pas. Pourquoi on en a?

670
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,040
- Parlez à l'agglomération. Il

671
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,040
faut demander à l'agglomération.

672
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,040
Ce sont les villes qui décident.

673
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,040
- Pas du, tout celles

674
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,040
agglomérations.

675
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040
- C'est pas vrai.

676
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040
- C'est vrai, Madame.

677
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
- Pourquoi ils n'en ont pas?

678
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,000
- Pourquoi ils n'ont pas quoi?

679
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000
- Pourquoi ils n'ont pas de

680
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000
fluor, la Ville de Montréal?

681
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
- Parce qu'on était chanceux.

682
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000
- Ça crée des problèmes de

683
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000
santé.

684
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000
- C'est un débat scientifique.

685
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
- Ce n'est pas, vrai ça fait 40

686
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
ans.

687
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
- Il faut parler avec les

688
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
personnes responsables. Ce n'est

689
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000
pas nous.

690
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000
Ce n'est pas nous du tour.

691
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000
Madame Verdon, avez-vous quelque

692
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
chose à dire?

693
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Est-ce qu'il y a une décision en

694
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
2023?

695
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
- Il y aura un comité de formé

696
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000
de la Ville de Montréal pour

697
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000
analyser la situation du fluor

698
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
dans l'eau. Il y aura

699
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000
recommandation en 2023 à

700
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
l'agglomération de Montréal. Ça

701
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000
sera les maires de

702
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000
l'agglomération qui prendront la

703
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
décision.

704
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000
- Ce n'est pas les citoyens qui

705
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
prennent la décision.

706
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,060
- Non, c'est à l'agglomération

707
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:05,060
que la décision va se prendre.

708
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:06,060
- Où sont les chartes des droits

709
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:09,060
et libertés?

710
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:10,060
- Il faut poser la question à

711
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:11,060
Monsieur le Maire, je ne fais

712
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:14,060
que répondre, merci.

713
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:17,060
- C'est la responsabilité du

714
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:19,060
gouvernement qui décide de cette

715
00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:21,060
adoption. C'est l'agglomération

716
00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:24,060
de Montréal qui décide ça.

717
00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:25,060
- Ce n'est pas le gouvernement,

718
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,060
la Ville de Montréal.

719
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:28,060
- Oui, c'est une forme de

720
00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:30,060
gouvernement. L'agglomération,

721
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:31,060
c'est un ensemble.

722
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:32,060
- Il n'y a que 3% de la

723
00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:33,060
population au Québec qui a le

724
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:38,060
fluor. Ils décèdent au sujet de

725
00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:41,060
Pointe-Claire.

726
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:42,060
- Ce n'est pas le gouvernement.

727
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:44,060
Le gouvernement suggère.

728
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:46,060
- Madame.

729
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:49,060
- Je suis tanné des menteries.

730
00:26:49,060 --> 00:26:50,060
- Madame, j'ai répondu trois

731
00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:52,060
fois.

732
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:53,060
- Je ne suis pas contente.

733
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:54,060
- Je le sais, parler avec

734
00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:57,060
l'agglomération. Si vous n'êtes

735
00:26:57,060 --> 00:27:01,020
pas contente, il faut parler à

736
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:05,020
l'organisation. Il faut parler à

737
00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:06,020
l'organisation qui est

738
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,020
responsable.

739
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:09,020
- Dites-moi les noms.

740
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,020
- C'est l'agglomération de

741
00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:13,020
Montréal.

742
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:15,020
- C'est qui?

743
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:17,020
- Vous devez téléphoner

744
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:18,020
l'agglomération de Montréal, ce

745
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:19,020
n'est pas avec moi tout de

746
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:20,020
suite.

747
00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,020
- Vous ne donnez pas de noms ou

748
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:24,020
de numéros. On peut les trouver.

749
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:28,020
- Vous pouvez appeler la Ville.

750
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:31,020
- C'est qui, la ville?

751
00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:34,020
- N'importe qui. Il faut

752
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:35,020
chercher un numéro pour

753
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:37,020
l'agglomération.

754
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,020
Madame, c'est assez.

755
00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:46,020
- Il faut travailler pour les

756
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:48,020
citoyens.

757
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,020
- Madame, c'est assez, merci.

758
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:53,020
- Je suis vraiment mécontente.

759
00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:54,020
- Je comprends, il faut pas les

760
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,020
avec les responsables.

761
00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:56,020
(inaudible)

762
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:57,020
(---)

763
00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:59,020
.

764
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,080
- Il faut parler avec les

765
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080
responsables.

766
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080
>> Hello, everyone, my name is

767
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,080
Steven, and I -- Pointe-Claire.

768
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,080
My issue right now is -- this

769
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
issue about what happened in

770
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,080
caucus. And one of your

771
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080
councillors left at caucus time.

772
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,080
And she shared her thoughts on

773
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,080
Facebook, is my problem -- my

774
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,080
problem, okay? I own a business

775
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,080
in Pointe-Claire. And I find

776
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,080
Facebook is an amazing venue of

777
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,080
advertising you are store,

778
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,080
dealing with people. But when

779
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,080
something happens in behind

780
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,080
caucus, in a meeting -- I'm

781
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080
sorry, but you put it on

782
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080
Facebook and how you felt, what

783
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080
happened behind closed doors, on

784
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Facebook -- I don't think it was

785
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,080
right. I think that the, what do

786
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,040
you call it, the platform, is

787
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,040
the wrong platform to exercise

788
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,040
your opinion on what the

789
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040
situation was. Again, I see it

790
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,040
in a newspaper ad, the same

791
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,040
issues. The way I see it is, if

792
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,040
you have a caucus meeting, it's

793
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,040
like having an argument in a

794
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,040
kitchen, okay, with your wife --

795
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
and you don't want to

796
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
publicized, what you are

797
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,040
discussing. So, that is my main

798
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,040
problem here, that I don't think

799
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040
anything that happens with

800
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040
Council in behind closed doors

801
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040
should be shared in public.

802
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Okay? So, that is one issue. The

803
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,040
second issue is, -- Thomas was

804
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,040
elected as mayor of

805
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Pointe-Claire for the next four

806
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,040
years. And I was one of them

807
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,040
that voted. And I convinced a

808
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,040
lot of people to vote for him,

809
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,040
because I thought that he would

810
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040
be the good candidate for the

811
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,040
next four years. There is a

812
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000
divide in Council between what

813
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Tim Thomas is trying to do or

814
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
what Council wants. This has to

815
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
be fixed. You are all on

816
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
salaries. You are all getting

817
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000
paid for the job. You chose the

818
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
job. Make it work. Okay? So,

819
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000
this is the only two things that

820
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
I am addressing. Okay? And I

821
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
think that you guys have to work

822
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
together over the next four

823
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,000
years, make it work. I don't

824
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000
understand why we have outside

825
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,000
municipalities discussing a

826
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
situation that was happening in

827
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
caucus. So, I don't know what

828
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
else to say. But I think that is

829
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
something that has to be

830
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000
addressed, or you guys have to

831
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000
solve the problems behind your

832
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
own closed doors and not

833
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
publicized it to the public.

834
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Thank you.

835
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
[Applause]

836
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,000
>> --

837
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,060
>> Hi, my name is Ralph Stolcek,

838
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:07,060
and I'm a resident of two. I'm

839
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:08,060
going to make some comments on

840
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:10,060
the fly. My question is about

841
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:12,060
the Fairview forest. But I just

842
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:17,060
want to make a quick comment

843
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:19,060
first and echo that gentleman's

844
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:21,060
view. He stole my thunder they

845
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:23,060
are a bit. But also, I have

846
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:24,060
attended many council meetings.

847
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:27,060
And I am so exhausted by the

848
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:30,060
fighting amongst you guys and

849
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:32,060
amongst certain people who come

850
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:36,060
to question period and

851
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,060
constantly harass, a task. The

852
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:39,060
assaults are vicious. And I also

853
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:42,060
worry that the disruptions to

854
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,060
the business of the city,

855
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:46,060
becoming potentially so

856
00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:48,060
dramatic, that it could get

857
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:50,060
dysfunctional if it is not

858
00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:53,060
already. And I also want to echo

859
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:54,060
that you -- you folks have to

860
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:56,060
get your act together. Because

861
00:31:56,060 --> 00:32:00,020
it is enough. I should not have

862
00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:01,020
said that because it's not what

863
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:04,020
I came here for. But I am sure,

864
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:08,020
just like you, I have had it.

865
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:10,020
And you need to act. You are

866
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,020
elected as a leaders -- not just

867
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:13,020
one leader, you are all leaders.

868
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:15,020
And it is time to act and get

869
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:17,020
together. So, the reason that I

870
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,020
came tonight is because a couple

871
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:24,020
of hours ago, I read an article

872
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,020
in La Presse and it made me

873
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:30,020
think of the and Fairview Forest

874
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:32,020
it was quite interesting. I was

875
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:34,020
so excited to hear Tim Thomas

876
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:36,020
and, I'm sure, all the Council,

877
00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:38,020
get excited about, it COP15 and

878
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:41,020
the upcoming UN conference on

879
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:43,020
biodiversity. There are over

880
00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,020
18,000 delegates coming to

881
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:48,020
Montréal. It will be a huge

882
00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:51,020
event. Members of, say, Fairview

883
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,020
Forest, will actually be there.

884
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:55,020
And I am excited for the

885
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:56,020
results. I know it is an uphill

886
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:58,020
battle. But I think

887
00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:59,020
Pointe-Claire, like lots of

888
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:03,080
small, local areas, can do

889
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,080
important things. And it shows a

890
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,080
small local level but it's

891
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080
really important. Other

892
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080
municipalities have done it.

893
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Montréal and

894
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue,

895
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,080
notably. And that is, it's time

896
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080
to save land. It is time to save

897
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,080
the tiny areas of force that we

898
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080
still have. Pointe-Claire it's

899
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,080
just a tiny, tiny proportion of

900
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,080
natural spaces and land left.

901
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,080
I think, it's in the single

902
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,080
digits in terms of percentage of

903
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,080
property. So, the forest is

904
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
important. And that article that

905
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,080
I mentioned in La Presse --

906
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,080
well, there are two articles.

907
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:46,080
One is that Legault has

908
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,080
announced $650 million to

909
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,080
purchase land. And the other one

910
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080
was that the minister of the

911
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Environment has announced a new

912
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080
much stronger protection on

913
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040
threatened species and will be

914
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,040
elevating the status of the

915
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,040
brown snake to more endangered

916
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040
level as well as, I think, 25

917
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040
other species. We have had lots

918
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,040
of reports, including the --

919
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,040
report saying how endangered an

920
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,040
important series of the forest

921
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,040
are, the CMM has put it under

922
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040
freeze. Pointe-Claire has its

923
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,040
citywide freeze. There's all

924
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,040
sorts of developments that have

925
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040
happened. But I think there are

926
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,040
actions that have been taken and

927
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040
taken now. I want to know if the

928
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
City, given its interest in

929
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,040
COP15 and the environment

930
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,040
committee can start taking more

931
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,040
tangible steps to, at least in

932
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,040
principle, say, soon, very

933
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
shortly, that the Fairview

934
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Forest has to be preserved. 100%

935
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040
of it. It's a small area. It

936
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
cannot survive being parceled

937
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,040
off, not just for the brown

938
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,040
snake but for all the rest of

939
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000
the forest as well. There's all

940
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
sorts of species, wetlands, that

941
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
already need to be protected and

942
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
so it's time to take a stand and

943
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,000
announce that, in principle at

944
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
least, it should be protected,

945
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000
and then start to lobby with the

946
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
CMM and the Québec Ministry of

947
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
the Environment -- the CMM is

948
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000
already lobbying. They are all

949
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
ready saying that they want the

950
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
expropriation vac to be changed.

951
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000
And they want to be able to

952
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000
purchase land at a fair value

953
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
instead of market value after

954
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000
potential theoretical

955
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000
developments are built. There is

956
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
lots of things that

957
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Pointe-Claire can do. And I hope

958
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
that, in the very near future,

959
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000
asking, are there any steps that

960
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
you are going to take to protect

961
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
endangered species and protect

962
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
the forest and will you make it

963
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
part of your mandate. Thank you.

964
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,060
>> There was a question.

965
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:03,060
>> Yes, Ralph.

966
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:04,060
>> -- that has yet to be

967
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:07,060
decided. But I I certainly hope

968
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:10,060
so. I am certainly, 100%, behind

969
00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:12,060
that goal.

970
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:16,060
>> Gregory, district one. Just a

971
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:18,060
little preamble that I did not

972
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:21,060
have before now. I think social

973
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:25,060
media and various platforms are

974
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:28,060
a good way and a way a certain

975
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:29,060
generation looks to get

976
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,060
information about the cities

977
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:32,060
they live in and what is going

978
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:36,060
on behind closed doors. Thank

979
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:39,060
you, Councillor Stainforth for

980
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:40,060
standing up for your beliefs and

981
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:42,060
informing the public of what

982
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,060
happened behind closed doors. It

983
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:46,060
happens in Ottawa. It happens

984
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:48,060
south of the border. It happens

985
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,060
in Québec City. It happens here.

986
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:51,060
We want to know about it. Thank

987
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:55,060
you. Question number one -- this

988
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:58,060
is a new one. I've got two. I'd

989
00:36:58,060 --> 00:37:01,020
like to know, Mr. Mayor, if you

990
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:03,020
can answer, who do we pay for

991
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:06,020
our water in the city of

992
00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:07,020
Pointe-Claire? Because my water

993
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:09,020
is terrible. It is Brown. And

994
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:11,020
now it has fluoride in it that I

995
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:13,020
did not even think about after

996
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,020
moving back to Montréal. So, who

997
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:18,020
do I pay to get my water? -- or

998
00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,020
to the City of Pointe-Claire?

999
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:22,020
>> You pay Pointe-Claire but it

1000
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,020
goes to the --

1001
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,020
>> I-pay, Pointe-Claire, so, it

1002
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:28,020
is your responsibility as the

1003
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:30,020
mayor Pointe-Claire of, and as a

1004
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:34,020
mayor on the agglo to hear the

1005
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:36,020
citizens that I get rid of

1006
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:38,020
fluoride and to tell them --

1007
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:39,020
it's not for them to call the

1008
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:41,020
agglo. It is your responsibility

1009
00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:43,020
--

1010
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,020
>> Is that a question?

1011
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:48,020
>> -- stop paying for your our

1012
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:49,020
water.

1013
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,020
>> You are speaking for the

1014
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:53,020
entire city right now?

1015
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:54,020
>> --

1016
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:55,020
>> That's quite a roll you've

1017
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:58,020
taken on, there Mr. -- the

1018
00:37:58,020 --> 00:37:59,020
responsibility has been done.

1019
00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:01,080
The agglo has been contacted and

1020
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,080
in fact they have are getting

1021
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
back to us. We are going to hear

1022
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
from them, in 2023, whether

1023
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,080
conclusions are regarding

1024
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,080
fluoride in our water. We have

1025
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,080
pressure them. We have done our

1026
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,080
best. And we are going to get an

1027
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,080
answer from them. So, there you

1028
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,080
go, Mr., the answer --

1029
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,080
>> -- that was clear and

1030
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080
concise. And not saying I'm not

1031
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
a scientist and I'm not this and

1032
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,080
I'm not --

1033
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,080
>> I'm not Mr. -- and I did not

1034
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,080
-- I never ever did anything,

1035
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,080
Mr. Frochette. Is that your

1036
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,080
question?

1037
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,080
>> That's my first question. And

1038
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080
I want to get into your little

1039
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,080
diatribe as well before that but

1040
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,080
I will let you answer your

1041
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,080
second question. -- Mrs. Weaver

1042
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,080
kind of still some of my

1043
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,080
question. I'm concerned that

1044
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Councillor Tedford is our

1045
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,080
Councillor district one. I see

1046
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040
that she is still not present. I

1047
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,040
would like to know what is has

1048
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,040
taken place. I believe, in a

1049
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,040
previous meeting, one question

1050
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040
by another resident of district

1051
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:13,040
one, you said that there was an

1052
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040
investigation ongoing and it was

1053
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,040
recorded by Public Security. Is

1054
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,040
anything happening? It is

1055
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Councillor Tedford going to come

1056
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
back to work or what is

1057
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,040
happening? Because you really

1058
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,040
said there is no report.

1059
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,040
>> --

1060
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,040
>> I don't know.

1061
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,040
>> We don't know the answer to

1062
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
that one. I am hoping she will.

1063
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,040
>> Is there or is there not a

1064
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,040
report that was --

1065
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,040
>> That question has already

1066
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,040
been asked and answered. Do you

1067
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
have another one? It's already

1068
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,040
been asked and answered.

1069
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,040
>> But in a previous meeting he

1070
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,040
said yes.

1071
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,040
>> There was a public security

1072
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040
brigade that visited and greeted

1073
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,040
the situation and dealt with it.

1074
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,000
So I am assuming they have

1075
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000
written a report because they

1076
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000
actually dealt with an

1077
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
occurrence. So, there must be

1078
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
something out there because they

1079
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
actually did deal with the

1080
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
situation of which there were

1081
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
five witnesses, who are all

1082
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
participatory's and who all can

1083
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
vouch for it. So, the incident

1084
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,000
did occur --

1085
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
>> -- Aaron is obviously not

1086
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000
here.

1087
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000
>> You don't know that that's

1088
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
the reason she's not here. You

1089
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000
don't know that. She could have

1090
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000
other physical reasons for not

1091
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
being here. So, the are two not

1092
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
necessarily connected.

1093
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
>> I really hope it's not.

1094
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
>> Okay, oh right. So, we are we

1095
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
going with this?

1096
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
>> My question is, is there or

1097
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
is there not --

1098
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
>> Asked and answered, Mr.

1099
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Frechette --

1100
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
>> No, you said in a previous

1101
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000
meeting --

1102
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
>> We don't know. We don't know.

1103
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
I would like to find out myself.

1104
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Absolutely, there should be one.

1105
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Here's --

1106
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
>> Why did you say in a previous

1107
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
meeting --

1108
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
>> I just already answered, you

1109
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Mr. Frechette. I said, they

1110
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000
visited, there was an incident,

1111
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
I'm pretty sure there was one

1112
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,060
written. And if there wasn't one

1113
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,060
written, there should have been

1114
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:04,060
one. So, we will find out.

1115
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:05,060
>> --

1116
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:07,060
>> We don't know. You have just

1117
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:08,060
been answered, Mr. Frechette,

1118
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:10,060
asked and answered. We don't

1119
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:11,060
know. We don't know.

1120
00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:13,060
>> I have the access to

1121
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:14,060
information saying there is not

1122
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:15,060
one.

1123
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,060
>> Okay. Is there not one? I'm

1124
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:18,060
not even sure of that.

1125
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:19,060
>> The answers right here.

1126
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:22,060
>> Okay, how about I try and get

1127
00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:23,060
you one then?

1128
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:24,060
>> But if it was not done at the

1129
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:26,060
time, then it's too late --

1130
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:28,060
>> No. All the participants are

1131
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:30,060
still available and it's --

1132
00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:31,060
>> One should be done.

1133
00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:33,060
>> Probably. I agree.

1134
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:35,060
>> Not probably. Most

1135
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,060
definitely.

1136
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:37,060
>> I would love for one to be

1137
00:41:37,060 --> 00:41:38,060
done. I would love for one to

1138
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:41,060
be. Then trust me. And I thank

1139
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:44,060
you for that. And don't go away.

1140
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:46,060
Now the role of social media to

1141
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:47,060
let everybody know what is going

1142
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:51,060
on behind closed doors is an

1143
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:52,060
irresponsible way to conduct an

1144
00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:55,060
organization.

1145
00:41:55,060 --> 00:42:00,020
Behind closed doors -- B'nai

1146
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:03,020
Brith weighed in.

1147
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:07,020
>> I read the article.

1148
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:09,020
>> Please, Mr. Frechette, -- you

1149
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:11,020
didn't read the report. It was a

1150
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:13,020
TV -- it was a TV spot. And on

1151
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:16,020
the global TV spot where, B'nai

1152
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:19,020
Brith and Mayor Jeremy Levi were

1153
00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:23,020
interviewed, they both said, as

1154
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,020
the representatives of their

1155
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:26,020
community that the worst thing

1156
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:28,020
you can do is run to social

1157
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:30,020
media and it hurts their

1158
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:31,020
community, and the best thing

1159
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:32,020
you can do is to go to the

1160
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:34,020
responsible, professional

1161
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:35,020
organizations involved in this

1162
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,020
type of that cavity to deal with

1163
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:37,020
it. Watch the global news

1164
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:40,020
report. And this is coming from

1165
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:43,020
experience professional

1166
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:44,020
organizations, Mr., Frechette,

1167
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:46,020
so quite frankly, your version

1168
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:47,020
of what you think is right for

1169
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:48,020
what's going on behind closed

1170
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:51,020
doors he is not shared by the

1171
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:53,020
persecuted communities who speak

1172
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:55,020
and have a lifetime experience

1173
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:56,020
on this issue. So, I thank you

1174
00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:57,020
for your comment but I think it

1175
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,020
demonstrates something.

1176
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:00,080
>> Oh, thank you.

1177
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,080
>> You are welcome.

1178
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
>> Thank you for insulting me.

1179
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,080
>> I did not insults you. You

1180
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,080
can take it as an insult if you,

1181
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,080
want Mr. Frechette.

1182
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,080
>> -- think you very much --

1183
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080
>> Mr. Frechette, you don't have

1184
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,080
to raise your voice. Excuse me.

1185
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Tony? Thank you.

1186
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,080
>> Yes.

1187
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,080
>> So, I --

1188
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,080
>> Yes, ma'am. Hi, I'm Bridget

1189
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Watson, Pointe-Claire. I had to

1190
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,080
think they share tonight but it

1191
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,080
turns out I have three now.

1192
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Because I was the person who

1193
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,080
called public security on the

1194
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,080
night that the -- approached us

1195
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,080
and would not leave him was

1196
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,040
harassing. I don't know what

1197
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
else to say. I called Public

1198
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Security the next day. I said,

1199
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,040
is there any follow-up that

1200
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,040
needs to happen. And I was told,

1201
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,040
no. So, I am assuming there was

1202
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,040
a report down on something.

1203
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Maybe it was not a full fledged

1204
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,040
report. I don't know. I've never

1205
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,040
seen anything. I'm just sharing

1206
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,040
with you that I am the person

1207
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,040
that called. And this was after

1208
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,040
repeated requests on my part to

1209
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,040
ask the developer to leave and

1210
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,040
to stop harassing and stop

1211
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,040
pressuring the councillors and

1212
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,040
the mayor to speak with him at

1213
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,040
10:30 pm at night in a parking

1214
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,040
lot that was badly lit. So, that

1215
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,040
is my story for that. I wanted

1216
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040
also -- well, why I wanted to

1217
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,040
come up here with the thank you,

1218
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Mr. Mayor for taking a position

1219
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,040
on environmental issues. As you

1220
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,040
know, I am very concerned and

1221
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,040
committed to saving Fairview

1222
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,040
Forest as well as other natural

1223
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,040
spaces. And I am troubled, very

1224
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,040
deeply troubled, by the loss of

1225
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,040
bio diversity in our ecosystem

1226
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,040
destruction through development.

1227
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040
I am for development, just not

1228
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,000
on natural spaces.

1229
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
So, I just want to make that

1230
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,000
distinction. Because I don't

1231
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
want to be classed as an anti

1232
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
developer, because I am

1233
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,000
definitely not. So, I'm sorry, I

1234
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
don't have a -- well, I don't

1235
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,000
know. To have a question around

1236
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000
that? No, I'm sorry, I don't. I

1237
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
do have a little preamble before

1238
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
my question with regard to what

1239
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000
has been happening lately. The

1240
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000
need for action, when we have

1241
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000
witnessed something we believe

1242
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
is unacceptable is completely

1243
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,000
understandable. In fact, it is

1244
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,000
our responsibility to act. To

1245
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
sit by and do nothing only adds

1246
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
insult to injury. And it is here

1247
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
that we must ask ourselves the

1248
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
difficult question, how best to

1249
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,000
act? When it City Council

1250
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
decides to break caucus

1251
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
confidentiality in response to

1252
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,000
an unacceptable situation,

1253
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,000
instead of making direct

1254
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
statements to the person

1255
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,000
responsible, it makes me wonder

1256
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
if there has been enough

1257
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,000
consideration on how this

1258
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
impacts all of us. For while the

1259
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
rush to disclose a wrongful

1260
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
situation may make sense in that

1261
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,060
moment, giving time and space

1262
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:02,060
for those involved may have been

1263
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:05,060
more responsible approach.

1264
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,060
Because now, a precedent has

1265
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:07,060
been set, where anyone sitting

1266
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:09,060
around the table during a caucus

1267
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:11,060
meeting can decide that the

1268
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,060
rules can be tossed aside when

1269
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,060
they feel it is necessary. Is

1270
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,060
that really what you want for

1271
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:18,060
Council and the City going

1272
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,060
forward? Councillor Stainforth

1273
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:26,060
was quoted in the West Island --

1274
00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:30,060
news it's not too late to turn

1275
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:32,060
this situation into a teachable

1276
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:33,060
moment but only if his

1277
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:35,060
willingness to do that. When you

1278
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:36,060
were all elected, you took an

1279
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:40,060
oath of office to work on behalf

1280
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:41,060
and for the well being of our

1281
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:42,060
city. You are paid to do a job

1282
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:44,060
that requires professionalism,

1283
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:45,060
sound judgment and discernment

1284
00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:47,060
as well as being able to work

1285
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:49,060
together despite differences of

1286
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:51,060
opinions. If you cannot do that,

1287
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:52,060
where does that leave us? And

1288
00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:54,060
how do we work through this

1289
00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:56,060
together? So, that was my

1290
00:46:56,060 --> 00:46:57,060
question. How do you see as

1291
00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,060
being able to work through this

1292
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:01,020
so that we can -- you all, and

1293
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:03,020
as the citizens as well -- be

1294
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:06,020
able to go forward in a more

1295
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:07,020
unified way, despite our

1296
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:08,020
differences?

1297
00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:09,020
>> Do you want me to answer

1298
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:10,020
that. Myself, personally?

1299
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:12,020
>> Yeah, I do.

1300
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:13,020
>> It's a good question. I

1301
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:15,020
think, take it as a learning

1302
00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:17,020
moment, all of us. And try to

1303
00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:18,020
learn from it and move forward.

1304
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,020
That's all we can do with it, I

1305
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:21,020
think.

1306
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:24,020
>> Okay. Thank you. Yes, I --

1307
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:34,020
>> Good evening, Mayor and City

1308
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:39,020
Council. You finished? My name

1309
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:47,020
-- district seven. I feel very

1310
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:50,020
sorry, really, and I don't know

1311
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,020
what I can say about what is

1312
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:54,020
going on on social media. It's

1313
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:58,020
supposed to be that indoor

1314
00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:04,080
meeting is supposed to be --

1315
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,080
focused on the really issue --

1316
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,080
the environment, housing for

1317
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,080
young families and future

1318
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,080
generations. What about that

1319
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,080
sentence are bad word that go

1320
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,080
fly on the media and social

1321
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,080
media, to make it bigger and

1322
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,080
bigger and to insult people

1323
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,080
more, you teaching the kids,

1324
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080
when you hear something bad, you

1325
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080
don't repeat it. And you did the

1326
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,080
same thing that the kids are

1327
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,080
doing. So, is that the right

1328
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,080
thing?

1329
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
I had a citizen for 30 years in

1330
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Pointe-Claire I never saw

1331
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080
something like what is going on.

1332
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Please, try to work together and

1333
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,080
stop insulting the citizens of

1334
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Pointe-Claire. We elect the

1335
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,080
Mayor and we elect all of you to

1336
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,080
work for the citizens of

1337
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Pointe-Claire with respect.

1338
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,040
>> -- respect -- fortunately,

1339
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,040
there was not any for the

1340
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
citizenry --

1341
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,040
>> Repeats it -- you did the

1342
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,040
same thing --

1343
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,040
>> --

1344
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,040
>> Look, I am not here to defend

1345
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,040
anybody.

1346
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,040
>> It sounds like it!

1347
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,040
>> No, you misunderstand. I'm

1348
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040
not defending anybody or

1349
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,040
accusing --

1350
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,040
>> -- things I said.

1351
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,040
>> As a citizen, I tell you what

1352
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,040
I'm feeling. And what I'm

1353
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
feeling -- already spoke about

1354
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,040
it. So, I have the solution for

1355
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,040
all of you. I hope, really, you

1356
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,040
do it. Make all the meetings

1357
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040
public, so we know who is

1358
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,040
working for the citizens and who

1359
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,040
is working for the developer or

1360
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,040
corporation. That is the right

1361
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,040
thing. Too many -- do it. Make

1362
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,040
it public. Put it the same like

1363
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,040
the meeting here now, on the

1364
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,040
website, do the same thing. So,

1365
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,040
we know the truth. That is the

1366
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,000
right thing to do, please. I am

1367
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
asking all of you, are you going

1368
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
to do that? Mayor, are you going

1369
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
to do that? To put public all

1370
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000
the indoor meetings, so we can

1371
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000
know?

1372
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
>> No, never.

1373
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000
>> Why?

1374
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
>> It's not in me. It's not in

1375
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
me. -- excuse me. Make publicly

1376
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,000
inside meeting? No. Respectfully

1377
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,000
--

1378
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000
>> Three or four or five months

1379
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
ago, you are the first person to

1380
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
break --

1381
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,000
>> I did not.

1382
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
>> You speak. I am being very

1383
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000
respectful here. We speak of

1384
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000
social media not expressing

1385
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,000
yourself, caucus

1386
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
confidentiality. The slippery

1387
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,000
slope that started was the

1388
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000
braking of caucus

1389
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
confidentiality and a YouTube

1390
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,000
video expressing councillors

1391
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000
internal revolt. And I commend

1392
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
you for being against that,

1393
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
because I am. -- support caucus

1394
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,000
confidentiality. We have to have

1395
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,060
a free place to speak, to

1396
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:02,060
express ourselves, to agree to

1397
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:03,060
disagree, even if we don't get

1398
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:05,060
along, that's fine. That must be

1399
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:10,060
maintained. So, Mr. Mater, in

1400
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:13,060
needs to be maintained. We are

1401
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:15,060
not an open book. We don't have

1402
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:16,060
an executive, like the federal

1403
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:17,060
government. We don't have an

1404
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:19,060
executive. You can't let 35,000

1405
00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:20,060
people into your bedroom and

1406
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:21,060
basically say things -- we talk

1407
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:23,060
about things that are very

1408
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:25,060
sensitive that are of different

1409
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:27,060
varying issues and implications

1410
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:28,060
of upon the city that we would

1411
00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:30,060
not really want to share with

1412
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:32,060
the public. So, caucus

1413
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:33,060
confidentiality is critical.

1414
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:34,060
>> But, what you are doing, what

1415
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,060
you are deciding, that's for the

1416
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:37,060
citizens, Pointe-Claire in the

1417
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:39,060
city. We are citizens. We have

1418
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:40,060
the right to know what is going

1419
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:44,060
on.

1420
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:45,060
>> Yeah.

1421
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:50,060
>> Mr. Nasser, can I respond to

1422
00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:56,060
Councillor Stork's comment? I

1423
00:51:56,060 --> 00:51:57,060
did not break caucus

1424
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,060
confidentiality. I've been

1425
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:01,020
accused of. It -- if you follow

1426
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:02,020
this issue and if any of the

1427
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:05,020
doubt this you can research this

1428
00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:07,020
yourself. When I actually

1429
00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:08,020
recorded my video it was after

1430
00:52:08,020 --> 00:52:10,020
the agenda had been posted

1431
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:13,020
publicly. So, there was no -- I

1432
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:15,020
released no information that was

1433
00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:16,020
confidential and did not break

1434
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,020
any caucus confidentiality. And

1435
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:21,020
you can see my response on that.

1436
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:23,020
So, that has been used as an

1437
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:25,020
excuse, which is a wrong reason

1438
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:27,020
to then engage in a tenfold the

1439
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:32,020
other way do. So, I would have

1440
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:35,020
never done what just happened.

1441
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:37,020
And there are comments that have

1442
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:39,020
been made in caucus that are --

1443
00:52:39,020 --> 00:52:42,020
I have spoken with other

1444
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:43,020
councillors and we would never

1445
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:45,020
say them. That would incriminate

1446
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:46,020
other councillors as well. But

1447
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:48,020
we will never say them. Because

1448
00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:51,020
it is not in us. So, I would

1449
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:52,020
think that that ethic should

1450
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:54,020
prevail and we should get back

1451
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:55,020
to it, somehow, all of us,

1452
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:56,020
absolutely.

1453
00:52:56,020 --> 00:52:59,020
>> So, what's the solution, Sir

1454
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,080
--

1455
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,080
>> For all of us to take it as a

1456
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,080
learning moment. For all of us

1457
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,080
to take it as a learning moment

1458
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080
and to learn from it -- and the

1459
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,080
professional organizations that

1460
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,080
were involved in this episode

1461
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,080
have asked that that never be

1462
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,080
done again and that, instead,

1463
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,080
they should be consulted first

1464
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,080
on issues that affect them. And

1465
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
that is the learning experience

1466
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,080
from this. And go back to that

1467
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Global News spot or speak to

1468
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,080
B'nai Brith and you will

1469
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,080
understand what they were saying

1470
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,080
and what they were encouraging

1471
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080
and why that was, really, not a

1472
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,080
positive episode for that

1473
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,080
community.

1474
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080
>> Okay. For this question, I

1475
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
hope really you find a solution

1476
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080
for that. For this question, how

1477
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,080
we can avoid all that in the

1478
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,080
future? And to be working

1479
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,080
together as a team for the

1480
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,080
citizen of Pointe-Claire in the

1481
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,080
city of Pointe-Claire? That's

1482
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,080
the first question. The second

1483
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,080
question -- we lost already

1484
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,080
young person, very intelligent

1485
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,080
and smart and courage because

1486
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,040
she stand up and she said the

1487
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,040
right thing. So, what we can do?

1488
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Because, as a human being, we --

1489
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,040
buy money, buy gift or buy

1490
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:13,040
promise. She stand up and she

1491
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,040
did all the right thing. So, we

1492
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,040
have to support her and get her

1493
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,040
back. So, what supposed to do,

1494
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,040
another solution? To not anybody

1495
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,040
get bullied because they say the

1496
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,040
right thing? So, what's the

1497
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,040
solution for that? Because I ask

1498
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,040
you last time. The question, you

1499
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,040
did not answer me about this.

1500
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,040
>> I cannot speak for others.

1501
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,040
>> No. What is supposed to be,

1502
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,040
as a leader, to avoid something,

1503
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,040
or to get bullied because they

1504
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,040
say the right thing?

1505
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,040
>> Well, you defend the person

1506
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,040
from the bullying. And I did, at

1507
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,040
the time --

1508
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040
>> I know you did that but not

1509
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:55,040
all of you. So, have a solution

1510
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,040
for that? I

1511
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,040
>> Cannot speak for others. We

1512
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,000
may not have lost her, though.

1513
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
We may not have lost. They're

1514
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,000
>> -- saying we, have to get her

1515
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,000
back.

1516
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000
>> Well, this is helping. What

1517
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
you are doing right now is

1518
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,000
helping. Hopefully, she is

1519
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,000
watching and hopefully she is

1520
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,000
hearing.

1521
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
>> -- she gave a quote to a

1522
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,000
newspaper article saying her

1523
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,000
absence has absolutely nothing

1524
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,000
to do with that incident. So, we

1525
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
need to stop acting like it does

1526
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
and insinuating that it does, as

1527
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000
has been insinuated at every

1528
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Public council meeting since she

1529
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000
was yelled at from the audience,

1530
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000
like so many of us at this table

1531
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,000
have been. You yourself to yell

1532
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,000
things out, Mr. Nasser.

1533
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000
>> I'm not --

1534
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000
>> From your seat.

1535
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000
>> What I'm saying is, her

1536
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
absence has nothing to do with

1537
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000
that incident. She's quoted in

1538
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,000
the paper saying it, we need to

1539
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000
stop acting like it is. She has

1540
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,000
her reasons that she has not

1541
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,000
shared with anyone. And we need

1542
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000
to respect her privacy. And we

1543
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
need to stop creating false

1544
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
stories. Because she has said

1545
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000
that to people, that she is

1546
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
tired of the gossip that is

1547
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,060
going around. She said to

1548
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:03,060
somebody I -- that I just saw.

1549
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:05,060
And that she is tired of it

1550
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:07,060
being insinuated, that that is

1551
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:08,060
not what is happening here. She

1552
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:10,060
is not not here because of that.

1553
00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:12,060
>> As a citizen, I feel the same

1554
00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:14,060
thing. Because all of the

1555
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:15,060
argument and all what is going

1556
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:16,060
on social media, I'm just

1557
00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:18,060
telling you. Why I am here? I'm

1558
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:19,060
here to support the good thing

1559
00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:21,060
and to highlight the bad thing,

1560
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:23,060
to find a solution for it. I'm

1561
00:56:23,060 --> 00:56:26,060
not here to support any body.

1562
00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:30,060
I'm here for the good open for

1563
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:32,060
the citizen and City of

1564
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:33,060
Pointe-Claire, to support you.

1565
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:35,060
And what is bad thing? We have

1566
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:36,060
to highlighted and to form a

1567
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:38,060
solution for it. And I hope,

1568
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:41,060
please, all of you, work

1569
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:43,060
together as a friend or as a

1570
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:46,060
family -- because all in

1571
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,060
Pointe-Claire there is no -- all

1572
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:50,060
-- are living together. So,

1573
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:55,060
please, -- work all together in

1574
00:56:57,060 --> 00:57:02,020
a fair. Thank you.

1575
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:03,020
>> Thank you. Okay, Madam

1576
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:08,020
Thibault --

1577
00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:10,020
>>

1578
00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:11,020
Il vise entendre les

1579
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:12,020
commentaires des citoyens

1580
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,020
concernant les projets de

1581
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:15,020
règlement visés. Ces procédures

1582
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:17,020
est requis par la loi. Les deux

1583
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:18,020
sont reliés

1584
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:19,020
(inaudible)

1585
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:21,020
de procéder en même temps à la

1586
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:22,020
consultation pour ces deux

1587
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:23,020
règlements. Je vais décrire

1588
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:25,020
l'objet des deux règlements et

1589
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:26,020
les citoyens intéressés pourront

1590
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:28,020
se faire entendre. Si aucun

1591
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:30,020
changement n'est requis, nous

1592
00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:31,020
procéderons l'adoption du

1593
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:35,020
deuxième projet du règlement

1594
00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:37,020
2791 et à l'adoption du

1595
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:38,020
Règlement 27 75 comme prévu dans

1596
00:57:38,020 --> 00:57:40,020
l'{city_council} ordre du jour.

1597
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:43,020
>> The purpose of items 10:01

1598
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:44,020
and ten to us to hear citizens

1599
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:46,020
comments on the two draft bylaws

1600
00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:47,020
in question. This procedure is

1601
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:49,020
required by the act. The two are

1602
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:51,020
related, so it will be more

1603
00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:53,020
efficient to proceed at the same

1604
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:55,020
time, to the consultation for

1605
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:56,020
these two bylaws. I will first

1606
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:57,020
describe the purpose of these

1607
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:59,020
two bylaws and then interested

1608
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:00,080
citizens will be able to be

1609
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,080
heard. Afterwards, if no changes

1610
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,080
are required, Council will

1611
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,080
proceed with the adoption of the

1612
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,080
second draft of and 2781 the

1613
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,080
option of PC-2775. --

1614
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,080
10.01 Consultation publique

1615
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,080
concernant un projet de

1616
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,080
règlement modifiant le règlement

1617
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,080
de zonage PC-2775 afin de

1618
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,080
remplacer, dans la

1619
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,080
classification des usages

1620
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,080
industriels de l'annexe 4, la

1621
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,080
définition de « Classe « B » -

1622
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,080
Établissement de fabrication »

1623
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,080
par « Établissement de

1624
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,080
transformation et/ou de

1625
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,080
fabrication ».

1626
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,080
La modification vise à réviser

1627
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,080
les modifier la classe B,

1628
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,080
faisant partie de la

1629
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,080
classification industrielle dans

1630
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,080
le but d'y inclure le concept de

1631
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080
production artisanale. The

1632
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,080
proposed amendment revises and

1633
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,080
amended F mission of

1634
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,080
manufacturing facilities with a

1635
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,080
-- production facility.

1636
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,040
10.02 Consultation publique

1637
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,040
concernant un projet de

1638
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,040
règlement modifiant le règlement

1639
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,040
PC-2791 sur les usages

1640
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,040
conditionnels afin de permettre

1641
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,040
des activités additionnelles à

1642
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,040
même certains établissements de

1643
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,040
transformation et/ou de

1644
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,040
fabrication faisant partie

1645
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,040
intégrante de la classification

1646
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,040
des usages industriels.

1647
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,040
Le projet de règlement

1648
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,040
concernant les zones situées

1649
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,040
dans les secteurs industriels de

1650
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,040
la ville. Il vise à permettre un

1651
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,040
local utilisé à des fins

1652
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
industrielles certaines

1653
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,040
activités additionnelles, telles

1654
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,040
que la consommation sur place ou

1655
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,040
la vente de produits fabriqués

1656
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,040
sur site. The draft bylaw

1657
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,040
concerns zone nine and 11

1658
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,040
indicated in the industrial

1659
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,040
sector. It aims

1660
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,040
Within a premises used within

1661
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,040
industrial purposes. Certain

1662
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
additional activities such as

1663
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,040
onsite conception, or the sale

1664
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,040
of products manufactured on

1665
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:01,000
site. Citizens are invited to go

1666
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,000
to the microphone if they have

1667
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,000
comments or question about it.

1668
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,000
>>

1669
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,000
City council members, my name is

1670
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
-- my partner Alex sent, us the

1671
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,000
owners of -- in district seven,

1672
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,000
in Erik's district. Running

1673
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,000
business is hard, and it's hard

1674
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
without government support in

1675
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000
allowing those to adapt to tough

1676
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,000
times, especially post pandemic?

1677
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,000
For the first three years of our

1678
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,000
business, we are doubling our

1679
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
revenues every year until the

1680
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,000
pandemic hit. During that time,

1681
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,000
a lot of businesses were shut

1682
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,000
down, two of our four panels

1683
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,000
going to mark it were closed

1684
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,000
down completely. The province,

1685
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
the government, not the city,

1686
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,000
but other bodies of government,

1687
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,000
did little to help us besides

1688
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000
providing more and more debt.

1689
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000
Every theory that was out there

1690
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,060
in Québec turned to canning, and

1691
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:02,060
flooded the market with

1692
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:03,060
additional product. It was hard

1693
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:08,060
for us to keep up with that. We

1694
01:01:08,060 --> 01:01:09,060
all the businesses were

1695
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:11,060
impacted, everybody had to

1696
01:01:11,060 --> 01:01:16,060
adapt, high tech had to adapt,

1697
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:19,060
business plans that were created

1698
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:20,060
years ago had been changed, and

1699
01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:21,060
we are looking for governments

1700
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:25,060
to keep up with those changes.

1701
01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:28,060
All around us, and other cities

1702
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:29,060
surrounding Pointe-Claire, in

1703
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:32,060
vote drawing, in Dorval, in

1704
01:01:32,060 --> 01:01:34,060
Montréal, governments, the

1705
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:36,060
cities, the governments changing

1706
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:37,060
their bylaws, industrial zoning

1707
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:42,060
to allow for consumption --

1708
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:43,060
consummate yourself class for

1709
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:46,060
entertainment, for food, for

1710
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:47,060
restaurant permits to allow them

1711
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:49,060
to continue to operate. We find

1712
01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:53,060
our customer base needs, or is

1713
01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:55,060
demanding additional things for

1714
01:01:55,060 --> 01:01:56,060
when they want to go out and

1715
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:58,060
spend their hard earned money,

1716
01:01:58,060 --> 01:01:59,060
especially in these inflation

1717
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:00,020
times. They don't want to go out

1718
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,020
and get one thing. They want to

1719
01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:06,020
do many things at the same time.

1720
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:08,020
This past summer was really

1721
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:11,020
difficult for us. We had been

1722
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:13,020
granted an exception to use a

1723
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:14,020
terrasse, or build a terrasse on

1724
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:18,020
our own dollar. Last summer was

1725
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:20,020
a good summer, even though we

1726
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,020
were closed inside. We were

1727
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:23,020
allowed to continue operating.

1728
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:24,020
This past summer, we were told

1729
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:26,020
we were unable to use the

1730
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:29,020
terrasse, which we had paid for,

1731
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:30,020
and only at the end of the

1732
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:32,020
summer, did the city say you

1733
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:34,020
could have actually been using

1734
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:35,020
the terrasse, there was a

1735
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:38,020
mistake made. Since then, we've

1736
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:39,020
been told we need to remove the

1737
01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:41,020
terrasse, which we have. So, we

1738
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:45,020
are looking for the proper

1739
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:46,020
direction, or the proper

1740
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:48,020
guidance to go through bylaw

1741
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,020
zoning changes. So that we could

1742
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:51,020
get the things that we need to

1743
01:02:51,020 --> 01:02:54,020
continue to operate. I will let

1744
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:56,020
my partner, Alex, here, make

1745
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:58,020
additional comments. Thanks.

1746
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:02,080
>> Yeah, hi. So, some of you

1747
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,080
I've met over time, at the

1748
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
brewery, and trying to explain

1749
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,080
to you guys what is important

1750
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,080
for a microbrewery to survive,

1751
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,080
and to compete against fellow

1752
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,080
microbreweries, is just that,

1753
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,080
the identity of being an

1754
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,080
industrial zone, being able to

1755
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,080
produce good beer, being able to

1756
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,080
offer food, our entertainment,

1757
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,080
offer a terrasse, it's the pure

1758
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,080
identity of what a microbrewery

1759
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,080
is. I've been suggested by some

1760
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,080
of the members to focus on

1761
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,080
distribution, and for a

1762
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,080
microbrewery, it doesn't start

1763
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,080
with distribution. It has to

1764
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080
start locally. Our local. We

1765
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,080
serve our citizens of

1766
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,080
Pointe-Claire with great beer,

1767
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,080
great place to socialize to have

1768
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,080
good conversations about

1769
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,080
business, and to build events

1770
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,080
for charity, which we

1771
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,080
participate ever more so today

1772
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,080
stage. It's very important for

1773
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,080
us to understand that the

1774
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,080
industry has progressed, it's

1775
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,080
changed, and like was mentioned

1776
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,040
before, the consumers are way

1777
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,040
more demanding today than they

1778
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,040
were back then. Our laws need to

1779
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,040
change quicker than they have in

1780
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,040
the past, to sustain the change

1781
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,040
of society today, and the way

1782
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,040
consumers see it. So, you know,

1783
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,040
we find it, right now, for us,

1784
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,040
it's an unfair advantage

1785
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,040
compared to other

1786
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,040
microbreweries. The possibility

1787
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,040
of serving food and having a

1788
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,040
terrasse, and we look at our

1789
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040
friends in Dorval, they opened

1790
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,040
their second brew house in

1791
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,040
Dorval, in this industrial zone.

1792
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,040
The city went up and said you

1793
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,040
can only install yourself here

1794
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,040
if you open a restaurant along

1795
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,040
with the brewery. They're

1796
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,040
imposing the service of food

1797
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
because it's a good principle

1798
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,040
and response to serve food and,

1799
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,040
serve beer and half of it along

1800
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:53,040
with it. Yeah. If there's

1801
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,040
something else, I'm sorry, I'm

1802
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,040
feeling a little bit under the

1803
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:02,000
weather today. All this to say,

1804
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,000
try and I, we poured our heart

1805
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,000
out into this business. Even if

1806
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,000
it ourselves tremendously over

1807
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
the last years. Because of

1808
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000
COVID. We tried to explain what

1809
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,000
is the business about, and we

1810
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,000
seem to have not received the

1811
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,000
proper response to it. We are

1812
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,000
here pleading our case, like we

1813
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000
really need things to change, to

1814
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,000
have the same level of playing

1815
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,000
ground as competitors. I feel

1816
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,000
it's unfortunate for us to not

1817
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,000
have been heard earlier, and we

1818
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,000
have put our life savings into

1819
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,000
this business which, if we don't

1820
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,000
have a change today, we don't

1821
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,000
know how we will make it to

1822
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,000
survive. We can't reach out to

1823
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,000
the consumers as we once did.

1824
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,000
Another thing I find unfair is,

1825
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,000
in the same industrial zone,

1826
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,000
there is a giant retailer that

1827
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,000
is able to produce, whether it's

1828
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,060
kicks, bread, processed meat.

1829
01:06:02,060 --> 01:06:04,060
They are a retailer, it

1830
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:05,060
manufacturer as well. They're

1831
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:08,060
able to serve food. We all know

1832
01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:09,060
who it is, it's Costco, and they

1833
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:11,060
are allowed to, in the same

1834
01:06:11,060 --> 01:06:12,060
industrial zone, themselves, sir

1835
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:15,060
food. We've been asking why we

1836
01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:17,060
couldn't do it. All this time.

1837
01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,060
There are reasons for, it may be

1838
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:20,060
valid reasons that is, and this

1839
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:22,060
is why, today, we are asking for

1840
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,060
a change in our bylaws, in our

1841
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:27,060
zoning, where we are, so we

1842
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:31,060
can't allow to have this extra

1843
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:32,060
possibility to serve our

1844
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:36,060
customers better.

1845
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:37,060
>> Something else?

1846
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:38,060
>> I'm good.

1847
01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:40,060
>> Anyways, I hope that, you

1848
01:06:40,060 --> 01:06:41,060
know, I tell people, there are

1849
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:43,060
two types of people, those that

1850
01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:44,060
don't change, and the people

1851
01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:46,060
that do change. Usually, you

1852
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:47,060
know, those that change, they

1853
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:49,060
usually survive. Those that

1854
01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:50,060
don't change, they get absolute.

1855
01:06:50,060 --> 01:06:52,060
Hopefully, they make the right

1856
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:53,060
decision and make a change

1857
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:55,060
today. Thank you very much!

1858
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:56,060
>> Well, it's an interesting

1859
01:06:56,060 --> 01:07:00,020
issue, gentlemen. I know your

1860
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:01,020
product, I quite like your

1861
01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:04,020
product, and I'd like to have

1862
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:05,020
local brewery in Pointe-Claire,

1863
01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:07,020
I really would. A microbrewery

1864
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:08,020
in Pointe-Claire. I support what

1865
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,020
you're trying to do. There are a

1866
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:12,020
couple of issues that are

1867
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:13,020
important to note here. When

1868
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:14,020
needed start to the business,

1869
01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:17,020
you started it in a zoning where

1870
01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:18,020
there was no permit for what

1871
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:20,020
you're asking to do. You did

1872
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:24,020
know that going in. What has

1873
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:25,020
happened as a result of that is

1874
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:29,020
that, a lot of us, my fellow

1875
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:31,020
councillors and I, sympathize,

1876
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:35,020
and have worked very hard, and

1877
01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:37,020
you are, step-by-step, doing

1878
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,020
well, and there is a willingness

1879
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,020
to change, as you suggest, and,

1880
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:44,020
maybe, to look at the rules of

1881
01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:45,020
Pointe-Claire. They are the

1882
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:47,020
rules of Pointe-Claire. Offhand,

1883
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:49,020
things are looking positive, so

1884
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,020
I wouldn't get too upset about

1885
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:53,020
things at the moment. I am sorry

1886
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:54,020
to hear that there was a mistake

1887
01:07:54,020 --> 01:07:56,020
made, I like to follow that up a

1888
01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:58,020
bit more. The other thing I

1889
01:07:58,020 --> 01:07:59,020
think you'd have to bear in

1890
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:02,080
mind, we had the blues fest this

1891
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,080
summer, and we have complaints

1892
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,080
about noise from certain

1893
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,080
residents. It is how close you

1894
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,080
are to residential areas,

1895
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,080
whether loud music or volume

1896
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,080
matter. I think Costco is

1897
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,080
playing music or doing anything

1898
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,080
of high volume. I don't know if

1899
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,080
they are or are close to

1900
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,080
residential. I'm not sure. These

1901
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,080
are variables that factor into

1902
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,080
this equation. There are forces

1903
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,080
in Pointe-Claire that don't want

1904
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,080
commercial businesses doing --

1905
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,080
you know, having a terrasse, and

1906
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,080
food in industrial zones. There

1907
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,080
are forces out there that are

1908
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,080
against that. Allow us to try.

1909
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,080
We are trying. We are

1910
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,080
sympathetic. Most of us feel

1911
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,080
positive about what you are

1912
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,080
trying to do, and are working

1913
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,080
for you. So, stay

1914
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,080
interconnected, as you've done

1915
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,080
in the past, and let's,

1916
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,080
step-by-step, let us go forward

1917
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,080
and see what we come up with.

1918
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,080
>> Let me just comment on two

1919
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,080
points there.

1920
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,080
>> Okay.

1921
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,080
>> First, yes, we knew what it

1922
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
was, the zoning, when we got in,

1923
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,040
six years ago, when we installed

1924
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,040
ourselves. But, if you look at

1925
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,040
businesses run today, and that,

1926
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,040
five years ago has nothing to do

1927
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,040
with one or the other, forget

1928
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,040
what was done to years ago, what

1929
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,040
has done in today's business,

1930
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,040
nothing for one of the other. We

1931
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,040
can't keep giving that excuse,

1932
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,040
saying you guys knew ahead of

1933
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,040
time. No, business is change,

1934
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,040
people change, society changes,

1935
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,040
this is my point from the

1936
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,040
beginning, that you can't keep

1937
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,040
having these laws that are

1938
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,040
written a long time ago, and

1939
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,040
just keep applying them, and not

1940
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,040
serve the population today the

1941
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,040
way they should be served.

1942
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,040
Things change, and we have to

1943
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,040
understand that. Second, when it

1944
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,040
came -- I'm sorry.

1945
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,040
(inaudible)

1946
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,040
>> Go ahead.

1947
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,040
>> One of your points ways noise

1948
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,040
complaints, outside music,

1949
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,000
playing on the terrasse. -- up

1950
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,000
to over fest, which took a long

1951
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,000
time to get the temporary permit

1952
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,000
for one day. -- for when that to

1953
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,000
happen. What we are requesting

1954
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,000
is more of a continuous

1955
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000
operation thing, playing music

1956
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,000
inside, the ability to acoustic

1957
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,000
music or a small band inside,

1958
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,000
seafood inside for the majority

1959
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,000
of the year. And then, on

1960
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,000
occasion, the one event per

1961
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,000
year, an Oktoberfest event,

1962
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,000
which -- we were very

1963
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
respectful. I got any complaints

1964
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,000
about music. Who is very quiet,

1965
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,000
very.

1966
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,000
>> I even took a video and

1967
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,000
walked all the way towards the

1968
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
end of our land, the back of the

1969
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,000
building. And we are right at

1970
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,000
offence, with the residents next

1971
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
door. And you cannot hear

1972
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,000
anything from the front of the

1973
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,000
building.

1974
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,000
>> It is just impossible. We

1975
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,000
have those trucks, those trucks

1976
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,000
as well that are across from our

1977
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000
brewery. There is no way they

1978
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,060
are making noise. So, I

1979
01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:02,060
understand, that's a concern.

1980
01:11:02,060 --> 01:11:04,060
And I would respect that. And we

1981
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:06,060
would do anything not to disrupt

1982
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:08,060
the residents around us. That's

1983
01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:10,060
not the goal here. But I invite

1984
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:12,060
you guys to come and see for

1985
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:14,060
yourselves, if we do make noise

1986
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:16,060
and, if we do disturb the people

1987
01:11:16,060 --> 01:11:18,060
around us. Because we obviously

1988
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:20,060
don't. I have checked myself.

1989
01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:22,060
>> That's very positive. And

1990
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:23,060
here's hoping going forward that

1991
01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:26,060
we can keep going forward in the

1992
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:28,060
direction you would hope was to.

1993
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:30,060
And let's see what we come up

1994
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:32,060
with a, all of us together.

1995
01:11:32,060 --> 01:11:33,060
>> Thank you.

1996
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:37,060
>> Thanks, gentlemen.

1997
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:48,060
>> The public consultation is

1998
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:52,060
over. I think so? Unless --

1999
01:11:53,060 --> 01:11:58,060
okay. We can move on with the

2000
01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:00,020
agenda.

2001
01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:02,020
>> Okay.

2002
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:05,020
Deux autres, avis de motion

2003
01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:07,020
modifiant le Règlement baisser

2004
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:10,020
25 sur la consommation... les

2005
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:11,020
peines. D'une passe, certains

2006
01:12:11,020 --> 01:12:12,020
articles doivent être abrogé

2007
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:13,020
puisqu'ils ne sont plus

2008
01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:17,020
applicables. En second lieu, le

2009
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:18,020
tarif des contraventions doivent

2010
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:19,020
être modifiées pour être

2011
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:20,020
cohérent avec l'ensemble du

2012
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:23,020
territoire de l'île de Montréal.

2013
01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:24,020
>> Who

2014
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,020
- Gives this notice of motion?

2015
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:27,020
Je propose Bruno Tremblay,

2016
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:30,020
district six. 1005 --

2017
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:42,020
Conditional Uses By-law PC-2791.

2018
01:12:42,020 --> 01:12:45,020
In order to prevent additional

2019
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:47,020
activities in processing or

2020
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:48,020
manufacturing facilities which

2021
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:52,020
are part of the industrial use

2022
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,020
classification. The bylaw has

2023
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:56,020
already been explained.

2024
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:57,020
Disons, cela d'option

2025
01:12:57,020 --> 01:12:59,020
directement de zonage PC 27 75

2026
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:01,080
afin de remplacer dans la

2027
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,080
classification des usages

2028
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,080
industriels de l'annexe quatre.

2029
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,080
La définition de classe B,

2030
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,080
établissement de fabrication par

2031
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,080
établissement de confrontation

2032
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,080
ou de fabrication. Le règlement

2033
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:16,080
a également été expliqué plutôt.

2034
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,080
10.07 Adoption of a by-law

2035
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080
respecting the adoption of a

2036
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,080
revised code of ethics and good

2037
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,080
conduct for City of

2038
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:29,080
Pointe-Claire employees. A the

2039
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,080
code of -- for municipal

2040
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080
employees is being amended to

2041
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,080
include elements that include

2042
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,080
cases of theft or fraud. In

2043
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,080
addition, we have taken into

2044
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,080
account for the -- of changes

2045
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,080
for the municipal ethics act

2046
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,080
regarding -- the act requires

2047
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,080
municipalities to prohibit

2048
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,080
certain employees for a period

2049
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
of 12 months after leaving

2050
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,080
office from holding a position

2051
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,080
as a director or officer of a

2052
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,080
corporation, employment or any

2053
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,040
other office that would give

2054
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,040
them or any other person

2055
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,040
improper advantage from their

2056
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,040
previous position for the city.

2057
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,040
Dix virgule, c'est l'option de

2058
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
règlement modifiant le Règlement

2059
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,040
PC 25 65 sur la consultation des

2060
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,040
parcs de stationnement ouvert au

2061
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,040
public. La modification

2062
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,040
réglementaire est pour permettre

2063
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,040
l'application du règlement sur

2064
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,040
la circulation, plus

2065
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,040
spécifiquement l'annexe G 1 par

2066
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,040
que ouvert au public. Au 285

2067
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,040
boulevard Hymus et ainsi émettre

2068
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,040
des constats d'infraction

2069
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,040
suivant la signalisation et le

2070
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:35,040
marquage en vigueur. 10.09

2071
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,040
Adoption of a by-law amending

2072
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,040
the Nuisances By-law PC-1495.

2073
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,040
the amendment is intended, among

2074
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,040
other things, to allow the use

2075
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,040
of generators, notwithstanding

2076
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,040
noise regulations during power

2077
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,040
outages or service interruptions

2078
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,040
or when tests much be conducted

2079
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,040
on the equipment.

2080
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,040
The other modifications are of a

2081
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
clerical nature.

2082
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,000
Si le dépôt des certificats

2083
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:08,000
concernant les registres... --

2084
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,000
until, from -- to

2085
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,000
>> Do I have a mover? Kelly

2086
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
Thorstad-Cullen, district three.

2087
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,000
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2088
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,000
>> I oppose it.

2089
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,000
Monsieur Bissonnette, vous votez

2090
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:35,000
contre tous les sujets? Vous

2091
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,000
votez contre dix. 0 5

2092
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,000
uniquement? O.K..

2093
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,000
Dix dix, déposé le certificat

2094
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,000
concernant les registres connue

2095
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
relativement au règlement

2096
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,060
d'emprunt B C. 29 51, 29 52 et

2097
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:05,060
29 53. Aucune signature n'a été

2098
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:06,060
reçue pendant le cinq jours de

2099
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:08,060
registre. Le Règlement pour

2100
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:11,060
mémoire, le 29 51, concerne un

2101
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:12,060
emprunt de 1 million 610000

2102
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:14,060
dollars pour des travaux de

2103
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:15,060
voirie, des travaux sur la voie

2104
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:17,060
de service nord de l'autoroute

2105
01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:20,060
40. Le 29 52 et un emprunt de 1

2106
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:21,060
million 610000 dollars

2107
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:22,060
concernant les travaux pour les

2108
01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:25,060
parcs et espaces verts. Le 29 53

2109
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:27,060
concerne un emprunt de 5

2110
01:16:27,060 --> 01:16:28,060
millions 500000 dollars pour le

2111
01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:30,060
bâtiment des Travaux publics,

2112
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:34,060
phase un. C'est simplement un

2113
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:40,060
dépôt, alors... 10.11 Consider

2114
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:41,060
the site planning and

2115
01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:42,060
architectural integration

2116
01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:43,060
programme plans with respect to

2117
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:44,060
the properties hereunder

2118
01:16:44,060 --> 01:16:49,060
mentioned: - 145 Prince-Edward

2119
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:52,060
Avenue, major extinction, - 106

2120
01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:54,060
Parkdale Avenue, extension

2121
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:56,060
exterior renovation, and - 44

2122
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:58,060
Drayton Avenue., Addition of a

2123
01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:00,020
veranda and exterior

2124
01:17:00,020 --> 01:17:01,020
renovations. Do I

2125
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:04,020
>> Have a mover?

2126
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:05,020
>> Tara Stainforth, district

2127
01:17:05,020 --> 01:17:09,020
four.

2128
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:10,020
>> Seconder?

2129
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:11,020
>> --

2130
01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:14,020
>> All in favour?

2131
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:19,020
>> Mr. Mayor, I voted in support

2132
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:23,020
of 145 -- however I vote against

2133
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:26,020
44 Drayton Avenue. There are

2134
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:29,020
certain aspects of this spate of

2135
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:30,020
regulations I would like to

2136
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:34,020
review, particularly for areas

2137
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:37,020
-- particularly for this area,

2138
01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:38,020
that 44 Drayton Avenue he's

2139
01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:40,020
located in. Therefore, I vote

2140
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:41,020
against 44 Drayton Avenue. Thank

2141
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:46,020
you.

2142
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:49,020
Bon, les personnes présentes

2143
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:50,020
peuvent secteurs c'est aux

2144
01:17:50,020 --> 01:17:51,020
conséquences dans le sujet

2145
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:54,020
ci-dessous pour les items dix,

2146
01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:58,020
12, à dix à 13. -- the person's

2147
01:17:58,020 --> 01:18:02,080
president may address Council --

2148
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,080
items dix 12, 10.12 and

2149
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,080
considérer une demande de

2150
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,080
dérogation mineure pour

2151
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,080
permettre 10.13 --

2152
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080
Aux cinq, avenue sur Cole une

2153
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,080
marge avant de 6,92 mètre plutôt

2154
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,080
que le minimum requis de 10

2155
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,080
mètres. -- 10.13 consider a

2156
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,080
minor exemption request --

2157
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,080
crescent avenue -- rather than

2158
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,080
the minimum required of 7.5

2159
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,080
metres and be a side setback of

2160
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,080
2.1 metre metres rather than a

2161
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,080
minimum part of 2.4 metres.

2162
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,080
>> Do I have a mover?

2163
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,080
>> -- district to

2164
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,080
>> Tara Stainforth, district

2165
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,080
four.

2166
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,080
>> All in favour?.

2167
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,080
20 0 un, déposé la liste des

2168
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,080
amendements budgétaires pour la

2169
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,080
période du 20 octobre au 23

2170
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,080
novembre 2022 et le registre des

2171
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,080
chèques pour la période du 20

2172
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,080
octobre 2022 au 23 novembre

2173
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:03,040
2022. 20.02 File the extract

2174
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,040
from the public register

2175
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,040
containing disclosure statements

2176
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,040
of any gifts, hospitality and

2177
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,040
all other benefits exceeding $

2178
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,040
200 having been received by a

2179
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:16,040
Council member.

2180
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,040
>> No mention was made in the

2181
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,040
register during the last year

2182
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,040
20 0 trois, déposé la

2183
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,040
Déclaration d'intérêts de

2184
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,040
pécuniaires de tous les membres

2185
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,040
du conseil. Comme à chaque année

2186
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,040
dans les 72 de la date

2187
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,040
d'anniversaire de la réélection,

2188
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,040
les membres du conseil doivent

2189
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,040
déposer une déclaration de leurs

2190
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:39,040
intérêts pécuniaires. 20 0 4

2191
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,040
20.04 Approve the calendar à 20

2192
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,040
dix. Setting the dates and times

2193
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,040
of the regular meetings of

2194
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,040
Council for the year 2023. it

2195
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,040
will be posted on the City

2196
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,040
website once adopted. 20.05

2197
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,040
Autoriser un soutien financier à

2198
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,040
la campagne « Centraide 2022 »

2199
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,040
au montant équivalent à 75% de

2200
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:03,000
la contribution des employés. La

2201
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,000
Ville remettra 34000

2202
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,000
(---)

2203
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,000
à Centraide incluant les dons

2204
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000
recueillis par les employés au

2205
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:15,000
montant de 17373 et 60.

2206
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,000
20.06 Designate an authorized

2207
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,000
representative for the signing

2208
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,000
of requests and any required

2209
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000
document for the Ministère des

2210
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,000
Forêts, de la Faune et des Parcs

2211
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000
for the year 2023. Some projects

2212
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:34,000
require an authorization from

2213
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,000
the forest ministry. To do so,

2214
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,000
it must be signed by

2215
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,000
unauthorized person, the press

2216
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,000
purpose of this resolution is to

2217
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000
authorize Mr. been what video,

2218
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,000
acting director engineering to

2219
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,000
sign required documents if

2220
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,000
necessary. 20.07 Désigner un

2221
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,000
représentant autorisé à signer

2222
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,000
des demandes d'autorisation et

2223
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,000
tous documents requis pour le

2224
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,000
Ministère de l'Environnement et

2225
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,000
de la Lutte contre les

2226
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
changements climatiques, pour

2227
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,000
l'année 2023.

2228
01:21:13,060 --> 01:21:14,060
Les signer les documents requis

2229
01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:15,060
encore de besoins.

2230
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:16,060
20.08 Renew the Union des

2231
01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:18,060
municipalités du Québec

2232
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:22,060
membership for the year 2023.

2233
01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:24,060
the annual membership fee for

2234
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:29,060
the year 2023 is 22,040 to --

2235
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:33,060
$42.56. In addition, the city

2236
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:37,060
wishes to join the Humane

2237
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:42,060
Society, which is $17,084.14 for

2238
01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:48,060
a total amount of $49,126.69,

2239
01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:50,060
including taxes. 20.09 Autoriser

2240
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:51,060
le maire, ainsi qu'un

2241
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:52,060
(e)

2242
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:53,060
invité

2243
01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:54,060
(e)

2244
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:55,060
ou un membre du conseil, à

2245
01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:56,060
représenter la Ville de

2246
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:57,060
Pointe-Claire au 24e bal annuel

2247
01:21:57,060 --> 01:21:58,060
de la SaintValentin au profit de

2248
01:21:58,060 --> 01:21:59,060
la résidence de soins palliatifs

2249
01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:04,020
Teresa-Dellar.

2250
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:09,020
Le coût est de 550 dollars par

2251
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,020
personne pour un total de 1500

2252
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:11,020
dollars.

2253
01:22:11,020 --> 01:22:12,020
20.10 Appoint members to the

2254
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:14,020
Environment and Sustainable

2255
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:15,020
Development Advisory Committee,

2256
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:20,020
as well as renew mandates. The

2257
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:25,020
citizen members are, Geneviève,

2258
01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:28,020
Isabelle, Rebecca Burns, Gary

2259
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:30,020
speller, Patricia, Alison

2260
01:22:30,020 --> 01:22:34,020
surveyor. The members of City

2261
01:22:35,020 --> 01:22:37,020
Council are, Kelly

2262
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:39,020
Thorstad-Cullen, we Bruno

2263
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:41,020
Tremblay. City employers are

2264
01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:42,020
Sophie parity and Vincent.

2265
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:45,020
>> Do I have a mover?

2266
01:22:45,020 --> 01:22:46,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

2267
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:47,020
district three.

2268
01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:48,020
>> Seconder?

2269
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:49,020
>> Seconded, Bruno Tremblay,

2270
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:50,020
district six.

2271
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:54,020
>> All in favour?

2272
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:58,020
>> I am in favour of all except

2273
01:22:58,020 --> 01:22:59,020
20.09, I feel we need to align

2274
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:01,080
ourselves like other cities and

2275
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,080
pay only for council members or

2276
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:08,080
the mayor.

2277
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,080
>> 30.01 to --

2278
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,080
>> Mr. Mayor, may I?

2279
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,080
>> Yeah.

2280
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:16,080
>> Thank you for that

2281
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,080
intervention, Councillor

2282
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,080
Stainforth. We did speak about

2283
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,080
that in the caucus meeting

2284
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,080
previously. It's something we

2285
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:29,080
are looking to codify.

2286
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,080
>> Okay. 30.01 Approuver et

2287
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,080
autoriser des modifications à

2288
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,080
l'entente relative à des travaux

2289
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,080
municipaux intervenue avec

2290
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,080
9363-9763 QUÉBEC INC.

2291
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,080
(KUBIK)

2292
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,080
. Un délai supplémentaire dans

2293
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,080
le but de permettre de compléter

2294
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,080
les travaux, l'obligation de sa

2295
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,080
responsabilité au 15 juin 2023,

2296
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,080
il s'agit de la seconde

2297
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,080
prolongation dans ce dossier.

2298
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,080
Des facteurs qui expliquent tels

2299
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,080
que la pénurie de main-d'oeuvre

2300
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,080
et la COVID-19.

2301
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,080
30.02 Confirm the adhesion of

2302
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,080
the City of PointeClaire to

2303
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,080
« Centre acquisitions

2304
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,040
gouvernementales  » regrouping

2305
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,040
for the purchase of new,

2306
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,040
retreated and remolded tires for

2307
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,040
the period of April 1, 2023 to

2308
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:09,040
March 31, 2026. the city of

2309
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,040
Pointe-Claire which is to

2310
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,040
participate in this purchase for

2311
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,040
new or treat in tires for its

2312
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,040
needs of the period of April

2313
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:21,040
1st, 2023, to March 31st, 2026,

2314
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,040
we are present and expenditure

2315
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:28,040
of -- 297,160 dollar, taxes

2316
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,040
included, and benefits from a

2317
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,040
better price to obtain for the

2318
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,040
activity. 30.03 Se prévaloir de

2319
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,040
l'option de renouvellement

2320
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,040
prévue au contrat intervenu avec

2321
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,040
ÉQUIPEMENTS EMU LTÉE, pour la

2322
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,040
fourniture et la livraison, à

2323
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,040
location, d'un chariot élévateur

2324
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,040
au propane clé en main, pour

2325
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,040
l'année 2023, pour un montant

2326
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,040
total de 13054,72$, taxes

2327
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:47,040
incluses.

2328
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,040
Il s'agit de la dernière année

2329
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,040
d'option prévue au contrat

2330
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,040
initial a octroyé en 2002.

2331
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,040
30.04 Exercise the option

2332
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,040
foreseen in the contract entered

2333
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,040
into with STINSON ITS INC., For

2334
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,000
the purchase of seven fixed

2335
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,000
radar units, for the year 2023,

2336
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:06,000
for a total

2337
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,000
amount of $ 29,195.53, taxes

2338
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:13,000
included. This is the first

2339
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,000
option under the original

2340
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,000
contract that were in 2022.

2341
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,000
>> Do I have a mover?

2342
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,000
>> Terrace team fourth, district

2343
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,000
four.

2344
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,000
>> Seconder?

2345
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,000
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2346
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:30,000
>> All in favour?

2347
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,000
>> Okay, 30.05 to 30.10. 30.05

2348
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,000
Se prévaloir de l'option de

2349
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,000
renouvellement prévue au contrat

2350
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,000
intervenu avec LES RÉNOVATIONS

2351
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,000
JOCELYN DÉCOSTE INC., pour des

2352
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,000
travaux de contrôle d'espèces

2353
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,000
végétales exotiques

2354
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,000
envahissantes et d'entretien en

2355
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,000
milieux naturels dans le parc

2356
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,000
Terra-Cotta et autres sites de

2357
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,000
la Ville, pour l'année 2023,

2358
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,000
pour un montant total de

2359
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,000
154940,31$, taxes incluses. La

2360
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,000
première année d'{city_council}

2361
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,000
option au Contrat initial

2362
01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:00,060
accordant 2022. 30.06, award the

2363
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:04,060
contract with PG SOLUTIONS, for

2364
01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:05,060
the supply of maintenance and

2365
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:06,060
technical assistance services

2366
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:07,060
for various software, for the

2367
01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:08,060
year 2023, for a total amount of

2368
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:13,060
$ 170,716.03, taxes included.

2369
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:19,060
The concerns for -- document --

2370
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:23,060
and access the ongoing. 30.07 Se

2371
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:25,060
prévaloir de l'option de

2372
01:26:25,060 --> 01:26:26,060
renouvellement prévue au contrat

2373
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:27,060
intervenu avec MOTION INDUSTRIES

2374
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,060
CANADA INC., Pour la fourniture

2375
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:29,060
de pièces, d'outils et

2376
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:30,060
d'équipements en mécanique du

2377
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:31,060
bâtiment, pour l'année 2023,

2378
01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:32,060
pour un montant total de 90000$,

2379
01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:36,060
taxes incluses.

2380
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:37,060
Il s'agit de la dernière année

2381
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:39,060
d'option de contrat initial

2382
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:40,060
Octroyé en 2018. 30.08 Exercise

2383
01:26:40,060 --> 01:26:42,060
the option foreseen in the

2384
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:45,060
contract undertaken with 100%

2385
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:48,060
ENVIRONNEMENTAL, for the supply

2386
01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:49,060
of services for the City's

2387
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:51,060
mobile Ecocentre, for the year

2388
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:53,060
2023, for a total amount of $

2389
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:58,060
172,634.96, taxes included. This

2390
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:04,020
is the final option of a

2391
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,020
regional contract awarded in

2392
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:09,020
2019. 30.09 Se prévaloir de

2393
01:27:09,020 --> 01:27:10,020
l'option de renouvellement

2394
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:11,020
prévue au contrat intervenu avec

2395
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:14,020
GESTION USD INC., pour la

2396
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:15,020
fourniture et la distribution de

2397
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:16,020
bacs roulants pour les matières

2398
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:17,020
résiduelles sur le territoire de

2399
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:18,020
la Ville, pour l'année 2023,

2400
01:27:18,020 --> 01:27:19,020
pour un montant total de

2401
01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:24,020
123237,39$, taxes incluses. Il

2402
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:25,020
s'agit de la seule année

2403
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,020
d'option de contrat initiale

2404
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:30,020
octroyé en 2019. Le contrat pour

2405
01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:32,020
2023 vise la distribution de

2406
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:34,020
bacs et d'autres services

2407
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:35,020
disponibles pour le contrat

2408
01:27:35,020 --> 01:27:36,020
initial et feront l'objet

2409
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:37,020
d'autres résolutions en cas de

2410
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:39,020
besoin.

2411
01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:46,020
- Bruno Tremblay, -- je propose

2412
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:49,020
de se prévoir Loire des options

2413
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:50,020
énumérées -- do I have a mover?

2414
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:51,020
(---)

2415
01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:54,020
.

2416
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:57,020
>> And seconder?

2417
01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:59,020
>> -- district to.

2418
01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:00,080
-

2419
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,080
>> All in favour?

2420
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,080
>> Okay 30.10 Se prévaloir de

2421
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,080
l'option de renouvellement prévu

2422
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,080
au contrat intervenu avec

2423
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,080
TRAFFIC INNOVATION INC., Pour

2424
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,080
la, fourniture et l'installation

2425
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,080
de signaux de passage pour

2426
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,080
piétons, type feux

2427
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,080
rectangulaires à clignotement

2428
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,080
rapide

2429
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,080
(FRCR)

2430
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:14,080
30.10, pour l'année 2023, pour

2431
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,080
un montant total de 25000$, to

2432
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,080
taxes incluses. -- crosswalk,

2433
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,080
signage -- rapid flashing for

2434
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,080
the -- year 2023, for a total

2435
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,080
amount of $ 25, 000, taxes

2436
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,080
included. This is the final

2437
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,080
option here of the 30.11 Se

2438
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,080
prévaloir de original contract

2439
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,080
award in l'option de

2440
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,080
renouvellement prévue au contrat

2441
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,080
intervenu 2021.

2442
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,080
Avec J.A. LARUE INC., pour la

2443
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:32,080
fourniture et la livraison d'une

2444
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,080
souffleuse à neige détachable

2445
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,080
neuf pour chargeur sur roues,

2446
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,080
pour l'année 2023, pour un

2447
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:44,080
montant total de 193098,21$, il

2448
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,080
s'agit d'une option disponible

2449
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,080
dans le contrat initial

2450
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:51,080
octroyant 2021.

2451
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,080
-- 13.12 park

2452
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,040
-- tax included -- the work in

2453
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,040
-- a small accessible building

2454
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,040
that will -- for you's. This

2455
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,040
includes the construction of a

2456
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,040
concrete slab, the construction

2457
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,040
of service connection and --

2458
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,040
choice of colour and addition of

2459
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,040
landscaping will be discussed in

2460
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,040
the coming weeks.

2461
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:28,040
, 30 à 13, premier contrat pour

2462
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,040
les espaces verts, les terrains

2463
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,040
sportifs pour les années 2023,

2464
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,040
2024 à Mario et Fils pour un

2465
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,040
montant approximatif d'1810892

2466
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,040
53, taxes incluses avec les

2467
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,040
années 2025 et 2026, en option.

2468
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,040
Chaque année est d'une valeur de

2469
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040
452723 et 13 et les années

2470
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,040
subséquentes à 2023 seront

2471
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,040
ajustées avec IPC.

2472
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,000
30.14 -- award -- total amount

2473
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,000
of $ 73,457.53, taxes included.

2474
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,000
30.15 Award a contract for --

2475
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,000
units, which it's useful life.

2476
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:19,000
>> Do I have a mover?

2477
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,000
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2478
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,000
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

2479
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,000
district three.

2480
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:33,000
>> All in favour?

2481
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,000
On travaille un contrat pour les

2482
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,000
travaux de dommages, entretient

2483
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,000
des sentiers hivernaux

2484
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,000
ascendants au montant total de

2485
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,000
75094 taxes incluses, ce contrat

2486
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
prévoit des travaux de sentiers

2487
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,000
de ski de fond et de randonnée

2488
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,000
pédestre sur le terrain de golf

2489
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,000
de déco du Field ainsi que sur

2490
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,000
les sentiers de randonnée

2491
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,000
pédestre dans neuf parcs de la

2492
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:03,060
ville. 30.16 Award a contract

2493
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:05,060
for professional services for a

2494
01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:06,060
traffic study in the

2495
01:31:06,060 --> 01:31:07,060
Pointe-Claire Village sector, to

2496
01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:08,060
CONSULTANTS AECOM INC., For a

2497
01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:09,060
total amount of $ 58,251.20,

2498
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:14,060
taxes included. -- undertaking

2499
01:31:14,060 --> 01:31:16,060
major infrastructure work in the

2500
01:31:16,060 --> 01:31:17,060
Pointe-Claire village area in

2501
01:31:17,060 --> 01:31:20,060
order to verify the impact of

2502
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:22,060
certain -- traffic study of the

2503
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:24,060
area must be conducted.

2504
01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:27,060
30,17, octroyer un contrat pour

2505
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:29,060
des travaux de rénovation à la

2506
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:31,060
cantine de l'aréna pas Bernier à

2507
01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:32,060
métier plus constructions pour

2508
01:31:32,060 --> 01:31:36,060
un montant de 66049 et 69

2509
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:37,060
coups... sous. Un nouveau bail a

2510
01:31:37,060 --> 01:31:39,060
été conclu pour la location de

2511
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:40,060
cet espace et suite à

2512
01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:41,060
l'inspection des lieux, il a

2513
01:31:41,060 --> 01:31:42,060
réitéré que des travaux de mise

2514
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:44,060
en normes sont requis en plus de

2515
01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:45,060
certains travaux de la station

2516
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:46,060
pour les opérations du nouveau

2517
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:50,060
locataire. 30.18 Award a

2518
01:31:50,060 --> 01:31:51,060
contract in order to reduce our

2519
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:52,060
dependence on recruitment

2520
01:31:52,060 --> 01:31:53,060
agencies and increase our

2521
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:56,060
employer branding/exposure, for

2522
01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:59,060
three years, to LINKEDIN, for a

2523
01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:02,020
total amount of $ 132,254.25,

2524
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:07,020
taxes included. The partnership

2525
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:10,020
with LinkedIn will, among other

2526
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:11,020
things, a track to network with

2527
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:14,020
active and passive -- target

2528
01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:16,020
candidates, search -- using

2529
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:18,020
keywords, posting job on the

2530
01:32:18,020 --> 01:32:21,020
City, LinkedIn career page,

2531
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,020
increasing visibility, and

2532
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:24,020
showing a major reduction in

2533
01:32:24,020 --> 01:32:25,020
posting time, providing

2534
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:27,020
information on the job market by

2535
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:28,020
offering -- statistics.

2536
01:32:28,020 --> 01:32:33,020
,

2537
01:32:36,020 --> 01:32:41,020
.,...

2538
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:46,020
(---)

2539
01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:50,020
est en force depuis le 5 mai

2540
01:32:50,020 --> 01:32:53,020
2020, se terminera vers le 20

2541
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:55,020
avril 2024. Cette entente à deux

2542
01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:57,020
âges exclusifs d'arrosage des

2543
01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:59,020
villes est constituée... nous

2544
01:32:59,020 --> 01:33:01,080
regrettons, profitons de

2545
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,080
meilleurs prix en raison d'un

2546
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,080
volume d'achat et nous serons

2547
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,080
les

2548
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,080
(---)

2549
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,080
pour ces produits. 30.20 Approve

2550
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,080
a change order to the contract

2551
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,080
entered into with FORACTION INC.

2552
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,080
, For the structural

2553
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,080
rehabilitation of the water main

2554
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,080
at Donegani Avenue between

2555
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,080
Chester Avenue and Des Sources

2556
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,080
Boulevard, for a total amount of

2557
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:24,080
$ 3,579.95, taxes included.

2558
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,080
This change includes the cost

2559
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,080
material for replacement of 26

2560
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,080
inch valves which was not

2561
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,080
included in the contract.

2562
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,080
>> Do I have a mover?

2563
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,080
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2564
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,080
>> -- district two.

2565
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,080
>> All in favour?

2566
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:48,080
30. 21 à 30. 25, contrat

2567
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:49,080
intervenu aux constructions

2568
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,080
Camara pour la construction des

2569
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:52,080
accommodements de services pour

2570
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:53,080
le bâtiment sanitaire des parcs

2571
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,080
injuste a électronique botte

2572
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:56,080
four

2573
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,080
(---)

2574
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,080
pour un total de 1441 et 46,

2575
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,040
taxes incluses. Le béton est

2576
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,040
exigé par le département de

2577
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,040
l'eau potable de Montréal pour

2578
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,040
remblayée autour du raccordement

2579
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,040
de la conduite d'eau potable

2580
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,040
principale sur l'avenue del Mar

2581
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,040
pour le futur bâtiment sanitaire

2582
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:13,040
au parc juste à.

2583
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,040
-- for the construction of slab

2584
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,040
and pathway for -- table at

2585
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,040
Northview and and Seigniory

2586
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,040
parks, for a total amount of $

2587
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:28,040
316.18, taxes included. This

2588
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,040
contract and in this regard --

2589
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,040
fill in the -- and the existing

2590
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,040
pathway that connects to the new

2591
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,040
pingpong table at Northview Park

2592
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,040
notes to facilitate

2593
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,040
accessibility.

2594
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,040
30. 23, appuyer les motivations

2595
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,040
de contrats acquis avec les

2596
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:47,040
entreprises PNB pour 1 heure de

2597
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,040
jeu accessible pour un parc

2598
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,040
valoir pour un total de 12735 et

2599
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,040
72 taxes incluses. En raison de

2600
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,040
la suspension du chantier en

2601
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,040
2022, les frais supplémentaires

2602
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,040
ont été engagés tels que la

2603
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,040
remobilisation de

2604
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,000
l'entrepreneur, la

2605
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,000
main-d'oeuvre, l'équipe avant de

2606
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,000
la machinerie, le remplacement

2607
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,000
des matériaux admis en raison

2608
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,000
des intempéries, l'autorisation

2609
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,000
d'un contrat a été émis pour les

2610
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,000
travaux. Ils ont remis le 6

2611
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,000
septembre 2022. 30.24 Approve a

2612
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,000
change order to the contract

2613
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,000
entered into with ALI EXCAVATION

2614
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,000
INC., For the rehabilitation of

2615
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,000
paving and curbs on Wilton

2616
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,000
Avenue, for a total amount of $

2617
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:26,000
15,084.72, taxes included.

2618
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,000
-- on the site exceeds the

2619
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,000
estimate -- lower than the

2620
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,000
estimated quantity, that shown

2621
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,000
amount of -- but we say 15,700

2622
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,000
on --

2623
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,000
30. 25, appuient une

2624
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,000
modification avec Stinson est

2625
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,000
pour la livraison de radars fixe

2626
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,000
pour un montant total de 4170 et

2627
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,000
170, taxes incluses. La peine

2628
01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,000
officielle était pour l'achat de

2629
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,060
2022 et deux Madeleine trois,

2630
01:36:01,060 --> 01:36:03,060
2024. C'est modifié dans le but

2631
01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:04,060
(---)

2632
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:06,060
et ainsi procéder à une seule

2633
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:07,060
raison pour huit rapports en

2634
01:36:07,060 --> 01:36:09,060
même temps.

2635
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:13,060
>> Do I have a mover?

2636
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:18,060
>> Tara Stainforth

2637
01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:23,060
district four. -- all in favour?

2638
01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:31,060
-- janitorial services for

2639
01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:32,060
exterior toilet and in various

2640
01:36:32,060 --> 01:36:34,060
location of the city, for a

2641
01:36:34,060 --> 01:36:35,060
total amount of $ 10, 000, taxes

2642
01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:40,060
included.

2643
01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:46,060
-- for the emptying service

2644
01:36:46,060 --> 01:36:48,060
water supplies and general

2645
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,060
service three times a week.

2646
01:36:51,060 --> 01:36:54,060
30 27, autoriser une dépense

2647
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:56,060
maximale d'1531000, 159 et 56

2648
01:36:56,060 --> 01:36:58,060
dans le cadre de l'appel

2649
01:36:58,060 --> 01:36:59,060
d'offres regroupés du Centre

2650
01:36:59,060 --> 01:37:00,020
d'acquisitions gouvernementales

2651
01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:01,020
pour l'achat de véhicules légers

2652
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:03,020
pour l'année 2000 22023 et c'est

2653
01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:05,020
un montant résiduel de l'année

2654
01:37:05,020 --> 01:37:07,020
2022. En raison des diverses

2655
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:08,020
difficultés d'approvisionnement,

2656
01:37:08,020 --> 01:37:09,020
la ville n'a pas été en mesure

2657
01:37:09,020 --> 01:37:10,020
d'acquérir des véhicules en

2658
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,020
2022. Par conséquent, les fonds

2659
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:13,020
utilisés doivent être

2660
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:14,020
transférées à l'appel d'offres

2661
01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:16,020
groupés de 2023 avant que tous

2662
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:17,020
les véhicules puissent être

2663
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:19,020
acquis dans les plus brefs

2664
01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:20,020
délais possibles. De plus, en

2665
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:21,020
raison des difficultés

2666
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:22,020
d'approvisionnement, les

2667
01:37:22,020 --> 01:37:23,020
commandes de véhicules doivent

2668
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:24,020
être effectués dans des délais

2669
01:37:24,020 --> 01:37:26,020
plus courts possibles après

2670
01:37:26,020 --> 01:37:27,020
l'émission de l'appel d'offres

2671
01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:29,020
groupés préparée par la CGI.

2672
01:37:29,020 --> 01:37:30,020
L'approbation d'une enveloppe

2673
01:37:30,020 --> 01:37:32,020
budgétaire maximale cinq j'ai

2674
01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:33,020
l'approbation du qu'on fait en

2675
01:37:33,020 --> 01:37:35,020
ce qui concerne les coûts

2676
01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:36,020
spécifique de véhicule permettra

2677
01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:38,020
à la Ville de gagner un temps

2678
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:40,020
précieux, ce qui donnera

2679
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:41,020
davantage de temps pour acquérir

2680
01:37:41,020 --> 01:37:44,020
les véhicules.

2681
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:47,020
>> Do I have a mover?

2682
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:51,020
>> -- district two.

2683
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:53,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

2684
01:37:53,020 --> 01:37:54,020
district three.

2685
01:37:54,020 --> 01:37:56,020
>> All in favour?

2686
01:37:56,020 --> 01:37:57,020
50 0 un, déposer la liste des

2687
01:37:57,020 --> 01:37:59,020
changements au personnel par

2688
01:37:59,020 --> 01:38:00,080
décision délégués pour le mois

2689
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,080
de décembre 2022 tel que préparé

2690
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,080
par monsieur Vincent pro,

2691
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,080
directeur des ressources

2692
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,080
humaines. Fyfe qui au tout 50.02

2693
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,080
Approve the list of

2694
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,080
non-delegated staff changes as

2695
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,080
of December 6, 2022.

2696
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,080
>> Do I have a mover?

2697
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:16,080
>> Moved by Bruno Tremblay,

2698
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,080
district six.

2699
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,080
>> And a seconder?

2700
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:22,080
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

2701
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,080
district three.

2702
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,080
>> All in favour?

2703
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:30,080
>> Okay.

2704
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:32,080
>> Closure?

2705
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:37,080
>> There is no -- varia. Do I

2706
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:40,080
have a mover for?

2707
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:41,080
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen --

2708
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,080
>> Do I have a seconder? Eric

2709
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,080
Stork merci tout le monde..

2710
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,080
>> Thanks, folks.