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Mesdames et Messieurs,

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>> Ladies and bonsoir. Je joins

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ma voix à gentlemen good

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evening. Celle du conseil

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municipal pour vous souhaiter

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une excellente année 2023.

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Santé, de wow

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Bonheur et prospérité à vous et

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à vos proches en espérant que la

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période des Fêtes ait été

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agréable et que vous ayez eu la

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chance de célébrer avec vos

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proches. Ce début d'année marque

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tristement le départ de madame

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Erin Tedford à titre de concert

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municipal du district un. En

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effet, suite à son absence

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prolongée pour des raisons de

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santé, elle a remis sa démission

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le 10 janvier dernier. Ce qui

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explique que des élections

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partielles seront déclenchées

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prochainement. Entre-temps, les

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citoyens de son district qui ont

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besoin d'assistance pourront

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communiquer avec moi. Sur une

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note plus joyeuse, nous

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soulignons l'honneur reçue par

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un citoyen de Pointe-Claire.

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Monsieur John Bergeron est un

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biologiste cellulaire et

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biochimiste canadien qui compte

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une liste d'accomplissement à

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laquelle s'ajoutent le statut de

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membre de l'Ordre du Canada.

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C'est le souligne les services

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distingués rendus à l'égard

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d'une collectivité, d'un groupe

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ou dans un domaine d'activité en

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particulier. Il a reçu cet

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honneur pour sa contribution à

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l'excellence scientifique dans

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le domaine de la protéomique. La

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protéomique désigne la science

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qui étudie les protêts Home.

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protéines d'une cellule, d'un

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tissu, d'un organe ou d'un

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organisme à un moment donné et

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sous les conditions données.

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L'Ordre du Canada reconnaît des

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réalisations exceptionnelle, le

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dévouement remarquable d'une

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personne envers la communauté ou

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une contribution extraordinaire

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à la nation, toutes nos

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félicitations à monsieur

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Bergeron! En terminant,

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Pointe-Claire tiendra son

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carnaval d'hiver le samedi 28

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janvier, à partir de 11 heures.

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Northview, les citoyennes et

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citoyens de Pointe-Claire sont

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invités à participer à une foule

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d'activités extérieures pour

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tous les goûts.

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I join the City Council in

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wishing you a happy New Year

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2023. Health, happiness and

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prosperity to you and your loved

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ones. I hope your holiday season

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was pleasant and you had the

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chance to celebrate with them.

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The beginning of the year sadly

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marks the departure of Erin

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Tedford as City Councillor for

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District  1. Following her

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extended absence for health

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reasons, she

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resigned on January 10.  10.

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This implies that by-elections

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will be called soon. In the

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meantime, citizens of her

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district who need assistance can

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contact me. On a happier note,

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we highlight the honour received

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by a citizen of Pointe-Claire,

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M. John J.M. Bergeron, a

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Canadian cell biologist and

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biochemist. Mr. Bergeron has a

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long list of achievements to

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which he adds Member of the

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Order of Canada. This status

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recognizes exceptional

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community, group or area of

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activity. He received this

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honour for his contribution to

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scientific excellence in

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proteomics. Proteomics is the

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scientific field that studies

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proteomes, that is, all the

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proteins of a cell, tissue,

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organ or organism at a given

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time and under given conditions.

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exceptional

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achievements, a person's

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remarkable dedication to a

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community or an extraordinary

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Congratulations, Mr. Bergeron.

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Pointe-Claire will hold its

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Winter Carnival on Saturday,

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January 28, starting at

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citizens of Pointe-Claire are

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invited to take part in a host

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of outdoor activities. There's

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something for everyone!

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2 Adopter l'ordre du jour. 3.

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Présentations, proclamations et

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hommages le retrait du point

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>> With the withdrawal of 9.1.

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>> Brent Cowan,. It Eric Stork,

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>> All in 4.1 Approuver les

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versions françaises et les

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favour? Versions anglaises des

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procès-verbaux de la séance

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ordinaire du 6 décembre 2022 et

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>> Do I have a mover? Brent

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>> Good evening, everyone. We're

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we have had 83 people sign. If

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you don't mind, I'm just going

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>> Can you state your name?

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>> Sorry, my name is Shannon

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Casey. I printed extra copies.

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like, all of you?

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gate leading on to the John many

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soccer field beside the water

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tower on top of canned was

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locked out without any public

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thought consultation. As a

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result, students who attend the

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high schools are no longer able

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to access their schools to this

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convenient gate. The locked gate

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also bars local citizens from

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crossing the field on their way

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to Douglas and or the library

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pool arena during the school

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year. It is only open in the

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summer. The ensuing result of

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the closed gate was a

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significant increase of traffic

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on May would as all the walkers,

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bikers, drivers, and dog walkers

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were suddenly sharing a narrow

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sidewalk on May would. To go

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around the school to get to the

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roundabout entrance at the front

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of the school yard. This

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situation is further exasperated

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in the winter months when snow

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and ice make walking to school

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even treacherous in a very busy

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area. Any student lives within

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1.2 kilometre radius of the

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school is considered a walker,

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and they do not qualify for a

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school bus. This means that they

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must walk to school or get a

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lift. Students who live on the

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west side of Saint-Jean are

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eligible for a school bus

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because it is a busy road. South

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of the school is the library

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pool arena, where a few students

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live. On the southeast corner is

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Terra-Cotta forest, also a spot

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where no students live. All of

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this to say that the vast

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majority of walkers are coming

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from the north and northeast

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side of the school. The entrance

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to the school, on top of can't,

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was the fastest way for all of

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the students to enter the school

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yard. When the gate was suddenly

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450 metres, which is a five

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minute walk for an adult to go

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all the way around the school to

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enter at the roundabout and the

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English hand, which faces the

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state park. It is our opinion

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that this school students will

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be able to enter the school yard

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in the safest manner. Left 450

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metres required of everyone who

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could easily be's in the gate is

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significant, especially for the

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little legs of five year olds.

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could use the dock of canned

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entrance, it would substantially

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reduce the number of cars trying

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to drop students off at the

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front of the school. When the

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gate was initially lock to shut

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public security stayed the area

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around the water tower that

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influence was too busy and

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dangerous during morning drop

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offs before school. The safety

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of the students was a major

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concern. Many of us parents

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witnessed the safety concerns as

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starting through cars that were

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dropping off other students and

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cars doing U-turns after they

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had dropped author children on

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Duke of Kent. We are not

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insensitive to the many concerns

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of residents on Duke of Kent and

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we have some ideas that will

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make reopening the gate

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equitable for everyone. As

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invested and engage citizens of

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Pointe-Claire we believe

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students should be safe when

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they go to school in that any

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possible danger should be

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considered and prevented. We do

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not want to wait for something

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bad to happen as a result of the

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traffic caused by the closed

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gate. We the undersigned would

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like to get on Duke of Kent to

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be permanently left open once

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the following safety measures

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have been put in place. So we

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have two phases. The first one

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is the simplest way to start. We

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thought new signage needs to be

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install installed. There should

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be no turning on to Duke of Kent

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Fran Maywood, no left or right

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turns between 7:30 or 9 am.

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There should be a drop of zone,

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five minutes for the students

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just to hop out of out of the

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car just in front of the water

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tower pat on the south side

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only, just enough space for four

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cars to drop on students and

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keep going. So there is no

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stopping and people darting. No

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parking. Also, if there is a way

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to stop the cars from doing you

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turns or turning around and

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peoples driveways and causing

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unnecessary traffic. Phase two

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would be when Duke of Kent is

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virtually repaved. There should

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be a sidewalk that prevents that

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connect Maywood all the way to

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the tower in a concrete border

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should be installed along the

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properties of homeowners along

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Duke of Kent so that aggressive

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protected from stopping

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vehicles. We'd like to thank our

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councillor, Eric Stork for

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reading meeting with us and

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looking for a solution for all

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parties. Nobody in Pointe-Claire

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wants a child or adult to be

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injured in our community, and

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hopefully we can work together

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to open this gate at the water

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tower on Duke of Kent. Thank you

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very much.

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>> To one more?

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>> Is there a question?

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>> My question is, can we open

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the gate?

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>> Well, we'll put it to the

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traffic committee. I have heard

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a bit about this, and I have

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heard that it is dissuaded

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walking. That is one of the

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comments that I have heard from

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many people about the closing of

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the gate.

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>> If I can just give one

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example, I have a

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seven-year-old, smaller than his

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age, and we live on the app, so

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I don't take the car to drop off

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because I'm not going in that to

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drop off my kid it's cool, so we

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walk. So is entrance to go in

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the school is at the back of the

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school so we have to walk along

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Maywood and then go along the

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school and go around the round

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part of the schools so he can

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enter at the back. So the walk

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that initially, when he started

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school, or when my older one was

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in school would take, five, or

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six minutes to get into the

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school yard, now takes a bit

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longer and he gets to school and

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he's already tired. That's not

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even when there is a snowstorm

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or when the sidewalk is full of

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snow. All of these months. So he

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gets to school and he is

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already, like, he stopped at the

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middle, the bench on that street

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at Duke of Kent. There's a

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little bench where he stops

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before he continues his path. So

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when it is raining, when there

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is a snowstorm, I have to still

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walk him because for no reason

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I'm going to go in that to come

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back home afterwards. That is a

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bit also, like, and he is one of

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them. He is not the only one.

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>> My question is, is the

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walking, are people walking to

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school being dissuaded by cars

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in any way? Is it making it

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harder for kids to walk to

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school under the current setup?

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>> Younger kids will walk them

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until grade five.

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>> Sorry, I would say yes. For

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example, when it's not winter in

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my kids wanted to bike to school

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I would happily send them around

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the back. They would go around

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from our house on Duke of Kent

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and they would lose their leave

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their bikes of the water tower

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and go to the school. Once it

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was like to have and let them

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bike sense because it is so busy

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in the morning. There's no bike

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path. Maywood is like, this

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people are walking. Then my kids

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are trying to go on to the

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street. I saw my son between the

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car in a sidewalk, like this

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much space, and I was that's it,

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we're not biking here anymore.

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It's not safe.

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>> There was one point where

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there is a career that opened

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the window to tell a kid on the

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bike to get on the sidewalk. But

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on the sidewalk there's all

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these walkers. So no, the bike

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shouldn't be on the sidewalk,

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but there are so many cars and

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then some cars are tied up with

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traffic, and they open up to let

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their kids out to go to school.

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So it's all that area. We cross

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from Dieppe, we cross Maywood to

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go on the sidewalk, and even my

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fourth grader can't cross alone

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because the cars don't always

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stop.

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>> The crosswalk's could lose

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use lights. We're looking at

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that as well.

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>> So in your opinion --

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>> The school zone is not very

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well identified.

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>> Have you guys identified all

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this? Because it's really good.

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It's really interesting. Have

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you put it all down?

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>> Now it's just about. Again

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>> Please keep going. I'm very

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interested, because I have heard

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that it has dissuaded activity,

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physical activity, like you

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walking to school. I don't know

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if that's true or not.

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>> We don't bike to school

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because it's either a detour or

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it's too dangerous.

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>> Curious to hear more. Thank

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you.

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>> Yes, Mister Mayor. Mister

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Mayor. So, before I posed my

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question, I would just like to

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thank madame Lafarge. Have you

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read your Dickens, tale of two

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cities? You are knitting, which

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is an interesting underlining

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for a broken council which needs

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to be taken out on tumbles and

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perhaps a few heads should roll.

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Thank you, Madam leverage, that

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is my question. Life is a

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metaphor. Anyway, we need the

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law forages and we can use this

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cars as well. So my question is

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along the following lines, a. We

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all know that there has been

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turbulence in the running of the

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affairs of Pointe-Claire council

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to the extent that one of our

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esteemed members has resigned. I

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assume that it was intimidation

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and even death threats, because

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nobody resigns from Council. The

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group plan, there's benefits,

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and so on and so forth.

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>> Okay, we don't get any of

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that, but keep going.

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>> No offence, Mayor Thomas, but

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this is the public question

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period, okay. --

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>> Sorry, could I get your name,

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please?

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>> Of course. Jeremy, with a

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why, Jeremy Searle. I ran in the

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last Pointe-Claire election in

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district five. I was completely

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crushed by Cynthia Homan. I got

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26%, she got the rest. And, yes

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I will be running in district

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one in the next one, hopefully

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getting 27 or plus percent. But

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we shall see about that. My

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question is the following. Given

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the air of improvisation and

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head banging and so on in

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council, history tells us that

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these differences divide two

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houses both lacking dignity. If

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you remember Romeo and Juliet.

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Basically, there needs to be a

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bit of bloodshed. The usual way

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of resolving this, much as a

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federal government, such as the

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NDP decides to stop supporting

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the Liberals, there will be a

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general election to let the

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people decide who they want. So

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I'm going to pose this question,

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and since he seems to be at the

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root of all this, I'm going to,

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what Lisa noisy, as the most

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outspoken, I'm going to pause my

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question to Brent Cowan. My

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question is this. Assuming I am

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right and that there is this

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discord, all sorts of stuff

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going on, inability to do

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business in a sensible fraternal

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way on Council, would you

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consider counselling, I believe

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there are five of them, five

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dissident colleagues to resign

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ensemble or, to give Mayor

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Thomas the opportunity to the

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same so that there can be a new

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election in Pointe-Claire so

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that people could decide who

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they want to represent them

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rather than just this inviting.

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That's my question. When you

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consider, all of you resigning.

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Thank you.

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>> Of course they won't, that's

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the point of the question.

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They're not gonna do something

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honourable. Of course it's a

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good idea, that's why I'm asking

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it. But he's going to say no.

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Because he wants the money.

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Anyway, Cohen.

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>> Are you asking me or Brent

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Cowan?

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>> I'm asking Mr. Cowan, because

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he's the problem, not you.

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You're not creating a problem,

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near the Mayor. He's the

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troublemaker, and his

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colleagues. Six of them ensemble

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are.

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>> Excuse me, Mister Searle, I

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would remind people in the

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audience to refrain from

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comments while the person is

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asking a question. Thank you,

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Mr. Searle.

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>> Very kind, very kind. I love

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that. I prefer the comments,

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would carry on.

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>> Councillor Cowan?

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>> Do you wish me to answer,

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Mister Mayor?

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>> If the public question

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period, what else you gonna do?

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>> I can't possibly compete with

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you, Jeremy Searle. I see you do

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the pulpit.

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>> I believe I am allowed a

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supplementary question on the

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grounds that it's on the same

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subject as the primary question?

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Is that okay, Mister Mayor?

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>> Okay. Sometimes I devolve

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into the secondary character, of

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Mickey Mouse, oh okay. My

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secondary question, Mr. Thomas,

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is the following. If your

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erstwhile Madame Lafarge,

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avoiding colleagues because they

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all know they're going to the

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guillotine when the next

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election comes, were to choose

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to resign so is to create a new

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election, would you consider

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going along with them so it

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could be a clean sweep and allow

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Pointe-Claire to decide who

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wants to actually run it? Before

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you answer the question, I would

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say that the average citizen,

563
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like myself, not citizen,

564
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000
resident, because the citizens

565
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pay attack the taxes they don't

566
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get the vote, the residents like

567
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000
myself, we want to council which

568
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is active. We don't want one

569
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that's fighting among themselves

570
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000
and coming out with stilling

571
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000
silly, things getting a member

572
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000
to resign. If all the others,

573
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brothers, sisters, were to

574
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resign, would you, Mayor Thomas,

575
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resign with them and call a

576
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complete new election so we can

577
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find out who we want to run it?

578
00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:06,060
>> You never stop amazing, me

579
00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:08,060
Mr. Searle. That's an

580
00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:09,060
interesting question. First of

581
00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:10,060
all, let me thank you for your

582
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:12,060
commitment to democracy by

583
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agreeing to run in district one.

584
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I thank you for that. And can I

585
00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:22,060
consider -- it's not a

586
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:24,060
completely outlandish

587
00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:25,060
proposition, in its own bizarre

588
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:27,060
way. If I roll my head around

589
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it. The prospect doesn't

590
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frighten me, so I can't say yes

591
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or no. Give me some time to

592
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think about it. It's an

593
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interesting suggestion.

594
00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:41,060
>> Thank you very well, Mayor

595
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Thomas. It's a Mickey Mouse

596
00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:44,060
thing again.

597
00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:48,060
>> Thank you, Mr. Searle.

598
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[Applause]

599
00:21:49,060 --> 00:21:50,060
>> Hi, good evening, Wendy

600
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cruelly, district three. I have

601
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a question for --

602
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>> Excuse me, can you state your

603
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name?

604
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>> Wendy cruelly.

605
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>> Into the microphone, Miss

606
00:21:58,060 --> 00:21:59,060
crawly?

607
00:21:59,060 --> 00:22:01,020
>> Is this good? Can you hear?

608
00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:04,020
Me perfect. I have a question

609
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for Mr. Thibault. Since former

610
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and current members of Council

611
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have been attacked for their

612
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words recently and I would like

613
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to take the ongoing discussion

614
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away from the gossip that is

615
00:22:16,020 --> 00:22:19,020
going on, I was wondering if you

616
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could confirm which number of

617
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the council has attended the

618
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least number of meeting since

619
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20,000 teen, from the council

620
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members elected since that time

621
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of course? I think this has is

622
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needed, as it is quantifiable

623
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and would speak to

624
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accountability and collaborative

625
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nurse.

626
00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:42,020
>> You said 17 2017? You are

627
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elected in 2021, so I just want

628
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to make sure we are on the same

629
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page.

630
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>> Many were elected since 2017.

631
00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:55,020
>> I think I have the minutes

632
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since 2017.

633
00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:57,020
>> Could we have that next

634
00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:58,020
council meeting?

635
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,020
>> Yeah, of course.

636
00:22:59,020 --> 00:23:01,080
>> Perfect, thank you. Thanks.

637
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080
And in the same vein I just want

638
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
to go to council and is there

639
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,080
anyone on council who can give

640
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,080
me the attendance records of the

641
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,080
current council members for our

642
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,080
meetings, including caucus

643
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,080
meetings? With that be possible?

644
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,080
>> Can anybody give attendance

645
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,080
records for councillors? For all

646
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,080
workers -- well, somebody would

647
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,080
have to have recorded it.

648
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080
>> I think we all assume that

649
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,080
councillors are going to our

650
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,080
meetings and they are not

651
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,080
always. Could I have, that next?

652
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080
>> Would you like committee

653
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,080
meetings as well?

654
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,080
>> Yes. I'll take it all. Sorry.

655
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080
>> I've publishing with my

656
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,080
microphone sorry so what you

657
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,080
want is all the presents for

658
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,080
caucus meetings as well?

659
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080
>> Caucus as well.

660
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,040
>> And all our committees, or

661
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,040
just caucus meetings and public

662
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,040
meetings?

663
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040
>> All meetings. I will take all

664
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040
of them.

665
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,040
>> All meetings, so all

666
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,040
committees --

667
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,040
>> For anything the councillors

668
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,040
need to be at that we would

669
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,040
expect the councillors to be

670
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
that.

671
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,040
>> As a member caucus meeting a

672
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,040
public meeting or on the same

673
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,040
page.

674
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040
>> Just for clarity, we are only

675
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040
legally obliged to attend public

676
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040
council meetings and all the

677
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,040
other meetings we attend because

678
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040
we are working for our citizens

679
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040
and passionate about the job we

680
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,040
do and dedicated to make sure

681
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that things move forward.

682
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040
>> Councillor stand forth, I

683
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think you have to wait for

684
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,040
permission to speak from

685
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,040
permission to chair for.

686
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,040
>> Thank you.

687
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,040
>> Thank you for your question.

688
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,000
[Applause]

689
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
>> Point of order, there is no

690
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000
clapping.

691
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
>> Good evening. My name is

692
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Sandra Mackay. I live in

693
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000
Pointe-Claire, in district two.

694
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I have two daughters, and like

695
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
seven 74% of Quebecers are

696
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000
extremely concerned about

697
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000
climate change. And of course we

698
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,000
see the extreme weather

699
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000
flooding, California, we have

700
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000
the hurricane in the Maritimes

701
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000
and obviously climate change is

702
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
the greatest threat of our

703
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000
existence on this planet. In

704
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
light of the recent cop 15,

705
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000
where the goal was to preserve

706
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000
30% of land and 30% of ocean by

707
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,000
2030, I wanted to ask each of

708
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the councillors, and you, Mister

709
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Mayor, what actions you will

710
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,060
take to protect our biodiversity

711
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:03,060
and our forests so that we don't

712
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:06,060
have to face more of this

713
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:08,060
situation.

714
00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:11,060
>> Okay. Well, we've started

715
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:14,060
fairly well. We have an RCI on

716
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:18,060
the -- we have development

717
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:20,060
freezes on the shopping centres

718
00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:22,060
and commercial villages. We are

719
00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:23,060
in a period of reflection where

720
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:27,060
we can demand various building

721
00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:30,060
products, practices, that will

722
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:31,060
Greater respect environmental

723
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:33,060
standards. We have before us an

724
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:36,060
opportunity to effect change

725
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:37,060
environmentally in what proceeds

726
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:39,060
intercity going forward for the

727
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:41,060
next period. I am hoping we

728
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:43,060
won't waste that opportunity and

729
00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:46,060
that we will, in fact, exact

730
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:47,060
standards and practices that

731
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:49,060
will protect this beautiful

732
00:26:49,060 --> 00:26:51,060
environment of ours.

733
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,060
>> Thank you.

734
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:53,060
>> Kelly, yes?

735
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:55,060
>> And president of sustainable

736
00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:56,060
development committee and I

737
00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:57,060
invite you also in addition to

738
00:26:57,060 --> 00:27:00,020
what has been said, we do have a

739
00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:02,020
strategic plan. It needs to be

740
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:04,020
updated, and we will work on it

741
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:06,020
with our city colleagues as well

742
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:09,020
as the committee. But there are

743
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:11,020
different actions and strategies

744
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:15,020
with regards to water, for us to

745
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:16,020
present preservation, dividend

746
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:18,020
issued eaves, biodiversity, so

747
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:19,020
many in so many different

748
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:20,020
categories that it has been

749
00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:22,020
broken down and we are looking

750
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:26,020
at how it's transverse lacrosse

751
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:27,020
everything throughout the city,

752
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:29,020
which it was designed initially

753
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:31,020
to do that. We're updating it to

754
00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:33,020
get give more details that you

755
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:35,020
can see, especially when you

756
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:36,020
mentioned the biodiversity and

757
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:37,020
making sure we have a good

758
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:39,020
balance. As a preoccupation of

759
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:41,020
the committee, and we have

760
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:42,020
excellent individuals who have

761
00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:43,020
joined our committee to help

762
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,020
move it forward in the upcoming

763
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:48,020
year.

764
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,020
>> Councillor stark?

765
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,020
>> As a member of the pack

766
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:55,020
committee, I can state that

767
00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:56,020
every project that comes work

768
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,020
muddy is reviewed

769
00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:59,020
environmentally for

770
00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:00,080
acclimatization I can tell you

771
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,080
from myself that every project

772
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,080
that I look at I look at a net

773
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,080
positive gain on every project

774
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,080
if we move something we should

775
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,080
not be going backwards for

776
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,080
climate change. Every project

777
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080
has to be one that existed. We

778
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,080
cannot be taking things away, we

779
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,080
have to stay neutral or gain

780
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,080
environmental advantages from

781
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,080
every project. It's a work in

782
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,080
progress. Sometimes there are

783
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,080
trade-offs in terms of

784
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,080
additional parking for a family

785
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080
versus, but we try to find

786
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,080
proper trade-offs and advance

787
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080
forward. That being said, just

788
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,080
to reiterate, every -- should be

789
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,080
net positive. You can't go.

790
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,080
Backwards talk about shopping

791
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,080
malls for example I mean at the

792
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080
end of the day these are cement

793
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,080
jungles in whatever can be done

794
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,080
is better than what is currently

795
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,080
there.

796
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080
>> Thank you. To any of the

797
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080
other councillors have any other

798
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,080
comments that they would want to

799
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,080
share? Because I assume you all

800
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,080
vote?

801
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,080
>> I don't mind comment to get

802
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,040
all. As a long time

803
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,040
environmental activist one of

804
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,040
the reasons I decided to run was

805
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,040
to help promote even further

806
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,040
environmental action within the

807
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,040
city. I think one of the

808
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040
important things that we have to

809
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040
look at when we're making

810
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,040
decisions, whether we are

811
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,040
administrators or residents or

812
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,040
politicians is to learn to

813
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
relate in a different manner to

814
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,040
nature, is to be able to

815
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040
understand the natural cycles

816
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,040
that exist, to work with Arab

817
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,040
and create an environment where

818
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040
we are better connected with

819
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040
what is going on. One of the

820
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,040
things I would like to push

821
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040
forward in Council, and I have

822
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040
received positive comments in it

823
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040
on it, is to find ways of

824
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040
designating, for instance,

825
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Pointe-Claire is a bird friendly

826
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,040
city. By doing this we are

827
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040
creating environmental habitats

828
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040
that support life other than

829
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,040
ours, and the more we do that

830
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,040
the war we are going to

831
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,040
structure every development,

832
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,040
every decision we make around

833
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000
those other beings that matter

834
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000
to us, because we evolved with

835
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
them. So I am constantly active.

836
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
I work with Kelly on the

837
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000
environment committee, and at

838
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
some point it's something that

839
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
and I have to admit it is a

840
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
difficult problem. It is very

841
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
large. Climate change involves

842
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
not just the municipal

843
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
government that is here today

844
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
but also provincial and federal

845
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
governments, and we really need

846
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
to find a way to work together

847
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
with this on all levels. Also

848
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000
from a point of view of

849
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000
expectations, in terms of what

850
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000
we consume, our everyday

851
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
actions. And how we develop.

852
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
That is a very critical thing

853
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
going forward. So I appreciate

854
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
your question. I don't want to

855
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
take up all the time on this,

856
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,000
but I did want to speak to it.

857
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
>> Thank you.

858
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,060
>> Thank you very. Much

859
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:07,060
>> I like this.

860
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:09,060
>> Susan Weaver, Pointe-Claire.

861
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:11,060
I have one pre-lack preamble, no

862
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:12,060
question which is about three

863
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:15,060
minutes, and one question. I

864
00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:18,060
would not normally talk about an

865
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:19,060
incident that happened four

866
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:20,060
months ago, but it has come up

867
00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:22,060
at every council meeting since,

868
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:24,060
and you mentioned it in the

869
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:27,060
media again this past week.

870
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:28,060
After September six council

871
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:30,060
meeting, I also remained in the

872
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:32,060
parking lot with another person.

873
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:33,060
We stopped and asked the

874
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:35,060
developer about his action

875
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:37,060
during Council meeting, and the

876
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:39,060
project in general. I have

877
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:40,060
followed this project for years,

878
00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:42,060
so I wanted to know more about

879
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,060
the trees, ditch, and flooding.

880
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,060
He spoke with us, and he was not

881
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:49,060
angry. He regretted shouting out

882
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:52,060
during the meeting. Our

883
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:53,060
conversation continued on about

884
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:55,060
the project. He left, and so did

885
00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:58,060
we. On the way to my car, I

886
00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:02,020
passed by your group and Bruno

887
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:03,020
Tremblay, who was with, you

888
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,020
acknowledged I was leaving. I

889
00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,020
saw nothing occur in the parking

890
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:08,020
lot while I was there, and I was

891
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:10,020
there quite a while. It's

892
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,020
subsequent Council meetings you

893
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:14,020
mentioned that the developer

894
00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:15,020
accosted Miss Tedford in the

895
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:18,020
parking lot. Bridget washed and

896
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:20,020
said she called police security

897
00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:22,020
because -- you changed the story

898
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:24,020
several times as to whether

899
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,020
there was a report or not. There

900
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:29,020
is no report, because a citizen

901
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:30,020
requested access to information

902
00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:34,020
and it verified that there was

903
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:35,020
none. I asked to people, one who

904
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:37,020
was an official, what happened

905
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:39,020
in the parking lot and both Toby

906
00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:41,020
nothing happened. And November

907
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:42,020
council meeting you said they

908
00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:45,020
ran away from the situation. You

909
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:46,020
ran away rather than standing

910
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:48,020
our ground instead of handling

911
00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:50,020
the situation you ran away,

912
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:52,020
showing again you are not fit

913
00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:56,020
for office. As for Miss Tedford

914
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:57,020
resignation, I commend her for

915
00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:59,020
doing was best for herself. She

916
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:01,080
can remain true to her

917
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,080
convictions and participate

918
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080
fully as a citizen. You took the

919
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,080
opportunity to exploit a

920
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,080
resignation so that you could

921
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,080
further promote yourself through

922
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080
the media. Councillors in other

923
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,080
cities have resigned from their

924
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,080
posts with only a small blurb in

925
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080
the newspaper. Furthermore, I

926
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080
think that I can say with

927
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,080
confidence that all councillors

928
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,080
are concerned about the

929
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,080
environment. It's where we are

930
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,080
live. Sustainability is more

931
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
complex. Be it environmental,

932
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080
social, or economic. They have

933
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,080
to find the best way to make it

934
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,080
work, unlike you, who's only

935
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
interest in promotion. You have

936
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080
shown your disdain for the

937
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080
office, Pointe-Claire, and

938
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,080
politics repeatedly over this

939
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080
last year. A toxic workplace may

940
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,080
be the result of bad leadership.

941
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080
And I'm going to add to this,

942
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,080
this morning you stated in an

943
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080
interview, twice, and the

944
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,080
developer followed you into the

945
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
parking lot. Absolutely false.

946
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080
We stopped the developer when he

947
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,080
exited and spoke with him for a

948
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080
good minute. Now my question, my

949
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040
next question is, you stated in

950
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,040
a December newspaper article

951
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,040
that you facilitated appeal to

952
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040
allow a medical center to be

953
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,040
built on to former

954
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040
cardiologists. How did you

955
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040
facilitate this expropriation

956
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040
between the provincial

957
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,040
government and --? And what has

958
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,040
happened to the brevity a

959
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,040
lawsuit against Pointe-Claire?

960
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040
>> Okay, Miss Weaver, your

961
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
question, Miss Weaver is a smear

962
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,040
and completely and utterly

963
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,040
dishonest and it is such

964
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040
dishonesty and attempts to smear

965
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,040
that you do repetitively that

966
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,040
are at the heart of the toxicity

967
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,040
that prevails in current

968
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Pointe-Claire politics, and

969
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040
you've demonstrated where the

970
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040
problem lies. I will give you

971
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040
honest and courteous answers to

972
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,040
your smear. There is a report,

973
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
there is a recording of the

974
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,040
incident. An actual tape

975
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,040
recording of a phone call and

976
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Bridget speaking to Public

977
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,040
Security clarifying exactly what

978
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,000
was occurring, and it's on

979
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
record. That telephone call is

980
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
on record, just for your

981
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
information. As to the actual

982
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
event itself, it's very

983
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000
interesting. I thought it was

984
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000
available, as mayor of

985
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Pointe-Claire not to be involved

986
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
in a shouting match with a

987
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
developer in a parking lot. I

988
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000
thought that was good judgment.

989
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
You may disagree but I stand by

990
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
my actions. That's not

991
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000
cowardice, it means avoiding

992
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
serious trouble and bringing

993
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
this honour to the office. As to

994
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
the end results, and missed

995
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Tedford, you'll have to speak to

996
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
her on what impact that had on

997
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
her before you make such

998
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
decisions. I know her personally

999
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
and I know the impact that event

1000
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
had, and it head on all of us,

1001
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
especially Miss Watson, and you

1002
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000
may discounted as nothing, but

1003
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
it wasn't nothing in their

1004
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
minds, because I wasn't there

1005
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000
until the end. And for your

1006
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
information, after you left I

1007
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
was still there, and this

1008
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,060
occurred after I had left. The

1009
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:02,060
worst of it occurred after I had

1010
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:05,060
left. So you and I don't have

1011
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:06,060
enough information to speak

1012
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:08,060
confidently about this. But

1013
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:09,060
certainly a lot of people were

1014
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:11,060
upset by the incident we can't

1015
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:12,060
discount the fact that they were

1016
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:17,060
upset. As for the media

1017
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:22,060
opportunities, I gave all the

1018
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:23,060
interviews to Aaron, I wanted

1019
00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:25,060
her to do all the interviews. I

1020
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:28,060
was asked to do the repeatedly,

1021
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:30,060
and I was pushed into the task,

1022
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:34,060
which I felt was necessary to

1023
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:35,060
explain and Erin had first right

1024
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:37,060
of refusal in all interviews, a

1025
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:39,060
couple of which he did with me.

1026
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:40,060
So I never eagerly went out and

1027
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:44,060
got them. As for Brevia, about

1028
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:46,060
two months into my mandate I was

1029
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:48,060
going to my regular Cs meeting,

1030
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:51,060
which we had on COVID. We always

1031
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:53,060
had Cs meetings where I meet

1032
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:54,060
with some of the people from

1033
00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:56,060
CBS. And the other mayors and we

1034
00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:59,060
will talk about the numbers of

1035
00:36:59,060 --> 00:37:02,020
what was going on in our

1036
00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:03,020
municipalities and with all

1037
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,020
statistics. They were great,

1038
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:05,020
they were interesting. Then one

1039
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:07,020
morning, I think after

1040
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:09,020
Christmas, I clicked on my

1041
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:11,020
computer and I was sitting there

1042
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:13,020
and I thought it was a regular

1043
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:14,020
Cs meeting and I was with a

1044
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:17,020
couple of deputy ministers and

1045
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:19,020
Leon it was just me and no other

1046
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:20,020
mayors and they said Mayor

1047
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:22,020
Thomas we are thinking about

1048
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:24,020
putting up a health care

1049
00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:26,020
facility in your municipality

1050
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:28,020
and gave me some of the details

1051
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,020
announced if there were any

1052
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:31,020
potential sites that I thought

1053
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:34,020
would be good sites. The light

1054
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:37,020
bulb went off in my head, and I

1055
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:39,020
thought well, the most disliked

1056
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:40,020
condominium proposal in the city

1057
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:43,020
wouldn't be a bad place for a

1058
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,020
public health care institution.

1059
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:46,020
And I thought it was quite

1060
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:47,020
clever of me. I suggested it,

1061
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:49,020
and I don't know if my

1062
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,020
suggestion helped or hindered,

1063
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:52,020
but it did happen. So I think I

1064
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:53,020
might have had some impact on

1065
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:56,020
the process. So those are my

1066
00:37:56,020 --> 00:37:59,020
answers to your not very polite

1067
00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:02,080
question, as always. That's

1068
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,080
okay, Councillor Stork -- I've

1069
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,080
been asked a question.

1070
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,080
>> Point of order. Am I allowed

1071
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,080
to reply?

1072
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,080
>> Yes.

1073
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,080
>> Okay, thank you. Mayor

1074
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Thomas, I agree with you, but I

1075
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,080
don't fully agree with the

1076
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,080
discussion with how she said,

1077
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,080
and what she said it, but I like

1078
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080
to be fair to all, the gentlemen

1079
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,080
before here, Mr. Searle, in

1080
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,080
front of all of us spoke about

1081
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,080
six councillors and --

1082
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,080
>> He said. Five

1083
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,080
>> Six of us, basically said

1084
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080
that he will go to the

1085
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,080
guillotine the next election. If

1086
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,080
that is except of behaviour on

1087
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,080
your behalf and you did not take

1088
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,080
that opportunity to question

1089
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,080
that. So please --

1090
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,080
>> It's an interesting comment.

1091
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,080
>> I'm not finished yet.

1092
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,080
>> Okay.

1093
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,080
>> Now I'm finished.

1094
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,080
>> Thank you. Your point is well

1095
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,040
taken, it Councillor Stork. I

1096
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,040
think Mr. Searle was on record,

1097
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,040
and if he has done something

1098
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
that is crossing the line,

1099
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,040
legally or criminally, I am

1100
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,040
certain that the action, the

1101
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,040
subsequent actions will occur.

1102
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,040
You are right, though, it's

1103
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040
probably not a good way to talk.

1104
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040
It was hard to discern and break

1105
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,040
through everything that he was

1106
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,040
saying in one shot, and it was

1107
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,040
quite theatrical, but you are

1108
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,040
right. In the end, it's not a

1109
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
good thing to imply, that's for

1110
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,040
darn sure. Yes, ma'am?

1111
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,040
>> Sorry, point of privilege,

1112
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Mister Mayor? Only because Mrs.

1113
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Weaver brought up my name

1114
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,040
regarding events took place in

1115
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,040
the parking lot. I was

1116
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040
definitely present and I can, if

1117
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,040
you allow me to describe the

1118
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
events of that evening, the

1119
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,040
mayor was absolutely correct and

1120
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,040
raising them as an issue,

1121
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,040
something we should be concerned

1122
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,040
about. If I follow the sequence

1123
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,040
of events carefully you'll

1124
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,000
understand the alarm that we

1125
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,000
felt when it occurred.

1126
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
During the meeting this Tedford

1127
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,000
was explaining her view

1128
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000
regarding the project, and at

1129
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000
the time the gentleman in

1130
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000
question here, I forget his

1131
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
name, objected to what she was

1132
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
saying. It was something from

1133
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000
the audience. From my assessment

1134
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
it unnerved missed had furred

1135
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
during the process of real

1136
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
explanation. As for the question

1137
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
period in these meetings are

1138
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
somewhat raucous and difficult

1139
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
to sit through for all of us,

1140
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
and probably for some members of

1141
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
the audience's. He was a

1142
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
difficult and long night. My

1143
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
understanding, and here I will

1144
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000
use the term that was used by a

1145
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
gentleman in the audience

1146
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
recently regarding hearsay, was,

1147
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
when I was in the parking lot I

1148
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
heard that the gentleman in

1149
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,060
question had had a shouting

1150
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,060
match with somebody who was in

1151
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:04,060
the audience here on his way

1152
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:06,060
out, which I had heard about.

1153
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:08,060
Someone mentioned it to me. So

1154
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:09,060
there were, I think in our

1155
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:11,060
minds, already two situations

1156
00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:13,060
that were a little worrisome

1157
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:14,060
when you have somebody who was

1158
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:18,060
upset at that level. Following

1159
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:20,060
that, we were outside just

1160
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:21,060
speaking about the evening. I

1161
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:24,060
remember it was a nice September

1162
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,060
evening. It was nice to be

1163
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:27,060
outside in the warmer air. We

1164
00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:29,060
were talking about the night,

1165
00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:32,060
generally speaking, and I think

1166
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:33,060
the gentleman was busy speaking

1167
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:36,060
to, if I'm not Miss they can, it

1168
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:40,060
was you, Tara, outside --

1169
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:45,060
[Inaudible]

1170
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:48,060
>> And so what happened, while

1171
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:49,060
we didn't were discussing I

1172
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:51,060
noticed I think it was a smaller

1173
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:55,060
CV go by and I noticed that it

1174
00:41:55,060 --> 00:41:57,060
was and I was thinking to myself

1175
00:41:57,060 --> 00:41:59,060
he's left the room. But then he

1176
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:02,020
just parked a little distance

1177
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:05,020
away and came back. At that

1178
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:08,020
point, with arms folded was

1179
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:11,020
repeatedly asking the same

1180
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:16,020
question, over and over.

1181
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:21,020
Actually, he was actually making

1182
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:24,020
the same statement that he was

1183
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:28,020
making here, that there were

1184
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:32,020
falsities, that he was being

1185
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:33,020
mischaracterized in terms of the

1186
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:34,020
things he was saying. I asked

1187
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:37,020
him if he could just give us

1188
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:39,020
some time, this wasn't

1189
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:40,020
necessarily the forum to be

1190
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:45,020
speaking about this right now. I

1191
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:46,020
asked on several occasions for

1192
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,020
him to stop, and he wouldn't.

1193
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:53,020
And he persisted. To the point

1194
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:58,020
where

1195
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,080
-- sorry. To the point where

1196
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Miss Watson begin to wonder what

1197
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,080
we should do. She called

1198
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,080
security. So he was definitely

1199
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080
persistent. It was definitely

1200
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,080
inappropriate. It was under vein

1201
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,080
to have somebody constantly

1202
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,080
speaking to you and insisting on

1203
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,080
speaking when we asked very

1204
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,080
politely, I did ask group lately

1205
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080
that we ended. And it was, I

1206
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080
think, a difficult moment for

1207
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,080
Council or Tedford for the time

1208
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,080
as well. We don't like that when

1209
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080
we go outside, to have people

1210
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,080
come up towards that way and

1211
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080
talk to us when we don't want

1212
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
it. And we have the right to ask

1213
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,080
someone to stop.

1214
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,080
>> Thank you Councillor

1215
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Tremblay. Next question?

1216
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,040
>> Sandy fuller, Pointe-Claire.

1217
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,040
>> Mayor Thomas, councillors,

1218
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,040
listening to the clip on the

1219
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,040
radio -- can you hear me?

1220
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Listening to the CJ de this

1221
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,040
morning I heard the clip and

1222
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,040
there was one statement that you

1223
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,040
had mentioned that really caught

1224
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,040
my ear. It was I'm stuck here

1225
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,040
for another three years. You are

1226
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,040
not stuck here, Mayor Thomas.

1227
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,040
You can resign anytime you like.

1228
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,040
But to have used that statement,

1229
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,040
I'm stuck here, for the next

1230
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,040
three years, didn't leave me

1231
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,040
with a very confident feeling. I

1232
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,040
feel that your interest in being

1233
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040
the Mayor is not really there.

1234
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,040
>> Is that your question?

1235
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,000
>> No, that's not my question.

1236
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
My question is, could you please

1237
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
elaborate on your job back in

1238
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Ottawa when you are working with

1239
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000
the privy council? Can you

1240
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,000
explain what your position was,

1241
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
just so we can all understand

1242
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
what it was?

1243
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000
>> Sure, absolutely. But let me

1244
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
address your C.A.D. comment,

1245
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
because it is often a dishonest

1246
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
way of structuring language, you

1247
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,000
take it out of context and make

1248
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000
it sound worse than it is. I was

1249
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,000
joking with Eli us, who I know.

1250
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,000
He was saying, he was saying

1251
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,000
would you want to leave, we are

1252
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
contemplating leaving? And I

1253
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,000
said that my son has taken over

1254
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
my former job, my business, my

1255
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
other son runs my business, and

1256
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
incidentally, I have not worked

1257
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
a day in that business since I

1258
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
became mayor. I have worked as

1259
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
mayor full-time. My son, who has

1260
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
taken over the business and

1261
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,060
operated it beautifully, has

1262
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:05,060
really grown to like it. So you

1263
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,060
are stuck with me for three

1264
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:10,060
years, is how it was said, that

1265
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:12,060
was the context. And it was

1266
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,060
funny, and he laughed. As to the

1267
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,060
drop in the Privy Council

1268
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:18,060
Office, I was charged with

1269
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,060
writing Policy briefs on Québec

1270
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:22,060
issues.

1271
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:23,060
>> What does that mean?

1272
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:24,060
>> You write for a five page

1273
00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:25,060
note that goes to the cabinet

1274
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:26,060
and prime minister. You write an

1275
00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:29,060
analysis of an issue and you

1276
00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:31,060
suggest what you you describe

1277
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:33,060
the problem is you suggest, you

1278
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:34,060
give a recommendation of what

1279
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:35,060
you think they should do. I did

1280
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,060
all of those Québec briefs with

1281
00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:41,060
a woman named Joanne Gagnon, and

1282
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:45,060
we were the senior in the office

1283
00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:46,060
of Canada inter governmental

1284
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:48,060
relations, my boss was staff and

1285
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:50,060
the on. His boss was John White

1286
00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:53,060
Pierre. I also had to write all

1287
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,060
the letters, the responses,

1288
00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:57,060
written in English to the prime

1289
00:46:57,060 --> 00:47:01,020
minister and to Mr. Diane at the

1290
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:02,020
time that he wrote them. I wrote

1291
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:05,020
back, usually, which is not fun,

1292
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:06,020
but a challenging part of the

1293
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:09,020
job. But the policy briefs were

1294
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:10,020
quite enjoyable. The policy

1295
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:12,020
briefs racially influencing

1296
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:13,020
government decision-making. And

1297
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:14,020
it was quite an honour. As you

1298
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:17,020
may or may not know, I was

1299
00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:18,020
extensively published on Québec

1300
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,020
politics. I was probably most

1301
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:22,020
prolific of my generation. That

1302
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:23,020
can all be tracked back and

1303
00:47:23,020 --> 00:47:25,020
raise. And you can go into

1304
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:27,020
library and find my research and

1305
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:30,020
all my publications and all my

1306
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:32,020
articles in middle in journals.

1307
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:35,020
That's why I was given a job of

1308
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:36,020
such prestige. And it was,

1309
00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:37,020
excuse me, I'm still talking, it

1310
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:38,020
was an honour to do, it and I

1311
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:41,020
did it well, and entered the

1312
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:42,020
timeframe that I was in that

1313
00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:43,020
role we had absolutely no Québec

1314
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:47,020
scandals, and Matthew Mendelsohn

1315
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:48,020
and I were brought. In Matthew

1316
00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:51,020
was a numbers cruncher. Is

1317
00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:53,020
currently teaching at Queen's.

1318
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:54,020
Matthew Mendelsohn and I were

1319
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:58,020
brought in after the back 95

1320
00:47:58,020 --> 00:47:59,020
referendum to try to gives

1321
00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:01,080
stability to the policy briefing

1322
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,080
in Québec. I think we did a

1323
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,080
pretty good job. You can check

1324
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080
all this. In fact, get a

1325
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,080
detective, go and find it all.

1326
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,080
I'm actually being humble.

1327
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,080
>> You sound like you really

1328
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,080
enjoyed what you are doing.

1329
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,080
>> I enjoyed that, and that's

1330
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,080
why I'm back doing what I'm

1331
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,080
doing now. After 25 years I

1332
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,080
thought I would do well in these

1333
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,080
my experience and waited too

1334
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,080
good for the world, given what I

1335
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,080
have been tartan what I've

1336
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,080
learned over the years. That's

1337
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080
why I'm here now. It's my step

1338
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,080
back into my former life. I also

1339
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,080
taught political science for 12

1340
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
years at McGill and it

1341
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Concordia. So this is a return

1342
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080
to my roots, really.

1343
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080
>> Was that during the era of my

1344
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,080
friend Paul Tellier?

1345
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,080
>> Yes. He wasn't there when I

1346
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,080
was there but he was around that

1347
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,080
timeframe.

1348
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,080
>> Okay, thank you.

1349
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,080
>> Thank you.

1350
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,040
>> Hello Council and attendees.

1351
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,040
My name is Ray Cole low from

1352
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Pointe-Claire. I have one

1353
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,040
preamble and one question. It's

1354
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,040
on the subject of Columbus

1355
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,040
Street in District district 8,

1356
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Oneida, which I lived in since

1357
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,040
96. The question and comments

1358
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,040
are addressed to the Mayor, but

1359
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,040
anyone else is welcome to weigh

1360
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,040
in. Formally I brought up the

1361
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,040
question on the November meeting

1362
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,040
in 2022. I was told that it

1363
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,040
depends on how the rest of

1364
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Council feels, from the response

1365
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040
I got from you. The honest

1366
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,040
answer is, regardless of how

1367
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,040
anyone else feels on the

1368
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,040
subject. The historical record

1369
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,040
now shows that unequivocally

1370
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,040
proven by facts, vetted by

1371
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,040
credited institutions, that

1372
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Christopher Columbus was

1373
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
responsible for genocide of the

1374
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,040
Toronto people and crimes

1375
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000
against Indigenous people in the

1376
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
name of greed and conquest. I

1377
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,000
drive-by the street every day

1378
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
when I commute, and so does a

1379
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,000
lot of people in the district.

1380
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,000
And thousands of people who

1381
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,000
passed through the district.

1382
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000
After speaking with various

1383
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
human rights groups like the red

1384
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
coalition in the Grand chiefs of

1385
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,000
nearby need communities and even

1386
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
my own professors at Concordia,

1387
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
they are all appalled that this

1388
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
even has to be asked more than

1389
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
once and this street hasn't been

1390
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
renamed already. Given your

1391
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,000
experience in Ottawa, the answer

1392
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
shouldn't be too hard. I mean

1393
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
the solution shouldn't be too

1394
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000
hard to resolve this. The

1395
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,000
question is basically, will

1396
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Council vote to have the

1397
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Columbus Street renamed. Isn't

1398
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
prepared for the consequences

1399
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,000
that come with defending the

1400
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,000
legacy of a man now known as the

1401
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,000
founder of the slave trade?

1402
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,000
>> That's a heck of a question.

1403
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,000
And a good one. Apologies. We

1404
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,000
were somewhat waylaid by your

1405
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,060
prioritize question really

1406
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:01,060
regarding fluoridation, which

1407
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:03,060
has kept us pretty busy busy. We

1408
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:04,060
are doing our best to get back

1409
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,060
to. I recall, that absolutely.

1410
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:07,060
We should absolutely decide that

1411
00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:09,060
one in an upcoming meeting.

1412
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:10,060
Absolutely. And you are quite

1413
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:12,060
right. Do you know if there is a

1414
00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:15,060
group of residents as well who

1415
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:18,060
concur and agree with that? On

1416
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:20,060
Columbus Street?

1417
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:22,060
>> Shouldn't even matter, given

1418
00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:24,060
the historical record?

1419
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:26,060
>> It needs to be for democracy.

1420
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:30,060
I hear you. Yes go ahead,

1421
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:32,060
Councillor Kiley.

1422
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:35,060
>> The industrial park, there

1423
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:37,060
are no residents there.

1424
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:40,060
>> Okay.

1425
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:41,060
>> 1000 people drive by the

1426
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:42,060
street.

1427
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:43,060
>> Okay, food for thought.

1428
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,060
Absolutely. We will approach

1429
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:46,060
this in our next meeting.

1430
00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:49,060
>> I spoke to read coalition and

1431
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:50,060
they're gonna take the case.

1432
00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:52,060
Thanks for your time.

1433
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:57,060
>> It's a good point.

1434
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:05,020
>>

1435
00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:08,020
Concernant la COP15 et la

1436
00:52:08,020 --> 00:52:09,020
protection de l'environnement.

1437
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:12,020
Est-ce que la Ville de

1438
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:13,020
Pointe-Claire a des rencontres

1439
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:16,020
avec la STM, là MTQ, concernant

1440
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,020
les routes existantes à

1441
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:23,020
modifier, à corriger? Pour se

1442
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:26,020
préparer à desservir les deux

1443
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:28,020
stations du REM à Pointe-Claire,

1444
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:30,020
quels sont les travaux pour les

1445
00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:32,020
changeurs de Saint-Jean à

1446
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:33,020
l'issue de la 40?

1447
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:34,020
(inaudible)

1448
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:35,020
(---)

1449
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:36,020
, une piste cyclable sécuritaire

1450
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:40,020
pour les piétons, aussi? Pour

1451
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:42,020
rejoindre le REM, est-ce que la

1452
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:45,020
Ville va continuer d'intégrer

1453
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:48,020
les pistes cyclables qui se

1454
00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:50,020
rendent présentement nulle part,

1455
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:51,020
pour se rendre aux deux

1456
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:53,020
stations?

1457
00:52:53,020 --> 00:52:56,020
- On est en train de faire ça on

1458
00:52:56,020 --> 00:53:00,080
est prêt. Il y a peut-être une

1459
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,080
bonne solution, mais pas tout de

1460
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080
suite. Il y a beaucoup de monde

1461
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,080
qui travaillent à ce sujet, on a

1462
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,080
fait de bonnes discussions. On a

1463
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,080
eu de bonnes discussions, c'est

1464
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,080
pour de la prospérité. Je ne

1465
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,080
peux pas dire plus que ça, le

1466
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,080
résultat du viaduc, c'est une

1467
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,080
possibilité.

1468
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,080
- Le 13 décembre, on a vu la

1469
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
réunion. 75% des gens qui

1470
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,080
restent à Pointe-Claire

1471
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,080
utilisent leur véhicule pour se

1472
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,080
rendre, se déplacer dans l'ouest

1473
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:46,080
de la ville. À Montréal, on a

1474
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,080
56% des gens qui utilisent. Ce

1475
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,080
serait bon pour l'environnement

1476
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,080
de corriger cette situation.

1477
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,080
- Vous avez raison, monsieur

1478
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,040
Lapointe

1479
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,040
. Notre système de transport en

1480
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,040
général n'est pas assez bon.

1481
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Nous sommes toujours sans

1482
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,040
besoin.

1483
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,040
- Concernant le projet de Mazda,

1484
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,040
ils vont faire les building. Dès

1485
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,040
qu'il y a des plans pour la

1486
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
réutilisation du sol, comme le

1487
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,040
processus qu'il y a eu au début.

1488
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,040
- Bonne question.

1489
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
- Y a-t-il une étude de

1490
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,040
circulation qui sera faite?

1491
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,040
S'ils font un hôpital pour

1492
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,040
personnes âgées ou quelque chose

1493
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,040
comme ça, il y aura beaucoup

1494
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,040
d'employés qui seront là.

1495
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Ça va prendre beaucoup de

1496
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
stationnements.

1497
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,040
Est-ce que tout ça est pris en

1498
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,040
considération?

1499
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,040
- J'espère.

1500
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
(rires)

1501
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,040
nous ne Sam pas rendu à cette

1502
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,040
étape. C'est un peu de ministère

1503
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,040
maintenant. On ne sait pas les

1504
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,000
mystères.

1505
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,000
(inaudible)

1506
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,000
(---)

1507
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
. On ne sait pas tous les

1508
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
détails du projet. On sait

1509
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000
presque rien. C'est approprié

1510
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,000
pour faire ça. C'est tout ce

1511
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
qu'on a, jusqu'à ce moment.

1512
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,000
- Est-ce que le gouvernement du

1513
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
Québec a droit de veto sur ces

1514
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,000
décisions?

1515
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,000
- Probablement, je pense que

1516
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
oui, absolument. C'est le

1517
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,000
gouvernement du Québec qui

1518
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,000
décide tout ça.

1519
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
- En ce qui concerne la boîte

1520
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,000
(inaudible)

1521
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,000
(---)

1522
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,000
.

1523
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,000
- O.K., merci.

1524
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,000
(inaudible)

1525
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,000
(---)

1526
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,000
.

1527
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
- Monsieur Lapointe, vous avez

1528
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,000
parlé de la STM et des pistes

1529
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000
cyclables. On est en train de

1530
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,000
les travailler, les différentes

1531
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000
parties pour les rejoindre et.

1532
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,000
Il y en a plein qui vont nulle

1533
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,000
part. Ils vont à des places

1534
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,000
qu'on ne veut pas aller,

1535
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,000
clairement. Pour la STM, on a

1536
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,000
des discussions depuis plusieurs

1537
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000
années. Ils sont supposés

1538
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,060
refaire

1539
00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:01,060
(inaudible)

1540
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:02,060
(---)

1541
00:56:02,060 --> 00:56:04,060
. Pour refaire les routes

1542
00:56:04,060 --> 00:56:05,060
d'autobus, pour que les autobus

1543
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:09,060
se rendent au REM, pour que ça

1544
00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:11,060
devienne plus accessible. On

1545
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:14,060
s'entend, au 30 minutes, ce

1546
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:15,060
n'est pas quelque chose

1547
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:17,060
d'accessible. C'est accessible

1548
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:18,060
quand on peut sortir de notre

1549
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:20,060
maison et on sait en se rendant

1550
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:22,060
à l'autobus qu'il y en aura un

1551
00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:24,060
dans les prochaines dix ou 15

1552
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:27,060
minutes. Ça, c'est accessible.

1553
00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:30,060
On a discuté de ça avec eux. Ils

1554
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:31,060
ont mentionné aussi

1555
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:32,060
(---)

1556
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:33,060
(inaudible)

1557
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:34,060
, pour plusieurs autres. On est

1558
00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:35,060
supposé d'avoir une voie de

1559
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:39,060
service sur Saint-Jean. D'un

1560
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:42,060
bout à l'autre, avec des

1561
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:45,060
lumières comme Pie-IX, pour que

1562
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:47,060
les autobus puissent partir

1563
00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:48,060
avant les autos.

1564
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:49,060
(inaudible)

1565
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:50,060
(---)

1566
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:51,060
.

1567
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:53,060
- C'est ça, c'est en discussion

1568
00:56:53,060 --> 00:56:57,060
avec eux autres. On attend le

1569
00:56:57,060 --> 00:57:00,020
projet de REM.

1570
00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:02,020
- La station est déjà là, elle

1571
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:03,020
ne changera pas de place demain

1572
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:05,020
matin.

1573
00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:09,020
- Ils sont moins pressés à nous

1574
00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:10,020
présenter

1575
00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:11,020
(inaudible)

1576
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:12,020
, que le projet est fini. Ça

1577
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,020
date depuis plusieurs années

1578
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:15,020
qu'on discute de tout ça. Tout

1579
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:16,020
est discuté avec. Je dis des

1580
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:18,020
choses qu'ils nous ont dit par

1581
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:22,020
rapport à l'autobus, avec l'voix

1582
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:23,020
prioritaire, des possibilités

1583
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:25,020
d'avoir des autos et de refaire

1584
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:27,020
les routes pour que les gens

1585
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:30,020
puissent se rendre au REM plus

1586
00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:32,020
rapidement, d'avoir un accès un

1587
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:35,020
peu plus.

1588
00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:37,020
- Ça prend 30 minutes pour se

1589
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:38,020
rendre au REM... ils vont encore

1590
00:57:38,020 --> 00:57:40,020
tous prendre le retour.

1591
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:44,020
- C'est sûr, absolument. C'est

1592
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:49,020
important de comprendre. Nous

1593
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:55,020
n'avons pas eu de discussions au

1594
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:56,020
sujet du projet

1595
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:57,020
(inaudible)

1596
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:59,020
, aucune discussion.

1597
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,080
>> That's good.

1598
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
>> Okay perfect. That process

1599
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,080
can take six months to three

1600
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,080
years is a private negotiation.

1601
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,080
It's fundamental either by doing

1602
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,080
that expropriation to your

1603
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,080
point, our decision-making, our

1604
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,080
involvement in the decision is

1605
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,080
limited. They will have certain

1606
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,080
rights that we cannot supersede

1607
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,040
as a city, but I can tell you

1608
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,040
and reference to litigation,

1609
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,040
there are cities that will

1610
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,040
require it begun as a traffic

1611
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,040
light at the corner of -- and

1612
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,040
St. John's, but something needs

1613
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,040
to be done in that area. But

1614
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,040
it's a wait and see, and as

1615
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,040
mayor Thomas mentioned, we'll

1616
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,040
have to wait and see what we

1617
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,040
come up with.

1618
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,040
>> Good evening, Council. Before

1619
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,040
my two questions, can I give my

1620
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,040
experience about the drop off at

1621
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,040
the school, quickly? So, some 15

1622
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,040
or 20 years ago, the school

1623
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,040
actually, and literature they

1624
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,040
give to the parents and the

1625
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,040
fall, they had like a -- and

1626
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,040
they show the parents you can

1627
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,040
show you or drop your kids off

1628
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,040
at the water tower. So it was

1629
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,040
promoted by the school, 20 years

1630
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,040
ago. And my advice is, like,

1631
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,040
what would happen, I saw this at

1632
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,040
the end of the school day,

1633
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,040
parents would come to the water

1634
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,000
and weed for the school to

1635
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,000
finish in the kids to come. So I

1636
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,000
think the neighbours were

1637
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,000
annoyed and seeing all these

1638
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,000
cars in the morning and also I

1639
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,000
have been there at the end of

1640
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000
the day waiting for the kids to

1641
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,000
come home. Could be almost like

1642
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,000
half a dozen cars waiting there,

1643
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000
so I think if there would be

1644
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,000
like signage explaining that you

1645
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,000
are doing that, no U-turns, just

1646
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000
come around and do it quickly, I

1647
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,000
think if the rules would be a

1648
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
bit more clear and promoted by

1649
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,000
the school, the people would

1650
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,000
understand, and would really

1651
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,000
appreciate if that gate would be

1652
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
open again. When I want to go

1653
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,000
for a walk to the library or the

1654
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,000
-- I do need to use that route.

1655
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,000
>> Okay. Food for thought. Thank

1656
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,000
you.

1657
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,000
>> It's kind of sad, actually,

1658
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
when they locked it, because it

1659
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,000
has become awkward.

1660
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:05,060
Since mayor Thomas mentioned

1661
01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:08,060
that was to scale back

1662
01:01:08,060 --> 01:01:10,060
development. Opened the side --

1663
01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:13,060
about the population, it was

1664
01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:15,060
announced a couple of months ago

1665
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:18,060
that the -- but actually it did

1666
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:20,060
not reach nine billion. And some

1667
01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:22,060
parts of the world they are

1668
01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:23,060
starting to move down, so this

1669
01:01:23,060 --> 01:01:25,060
is something to think about in

1670
01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:30,060
building big cities, back to the

1671
01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:33,060
platform. -- some councillors do

1672
01:01:33,060 --> 01:01:36,060
not appear to be supporting your

1673
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:38,060
plans, Mister Thomas. The

1674
01:01:38,060 --> 01:01:41,060
platform was transparency, for

1675
01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:42,060
environment and green spaces,

1676
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:43,060
and especially to link

1677
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:45,060
development to an appropriate

1678
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:48,060
level. The six councillors, six

1679
01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:51,060
returning councillors seem to

1680
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:53,060
hate your plans. At the will of

1681
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:55,060
the citizens, I voted for you on

1682
01:01:55,060 --> 01:01:59,060
your platform. It appears, Mr.

1683
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:02,020
Thomas, you only have to

1684
01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:07,020
supporters on council. Aaron

1685
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:09,020
Tedford, and Bruno Tremblay. I

1686
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:11,020
witnessed everything going on.

1687
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:15,020
This is the reason why Erin

1688
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:17,020
Tedford resigned. They have been

1689
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:19,020
pro developer. Most vote for

1690
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:21,020
everything for developers. The

1691
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:22,020
Question to

1692
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:24,020
- The returning si dans un parc

1693
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:25,020
councillors Rights

1694
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:26,020
-, Lakes

1695
01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:27,020
- Aide you refuting Lakeside

1696
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:28,020
Heights

1697
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:29,020
- This it is the will le of the

1698
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:30,020
citizens who village voted for

1699
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:33,020
our mayor.

1700
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:34,020
- Northview any councillors to

1701
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:35,020
answer?

1702
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:37,020
- On est that the dans citizens

1703
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:38,020
- Seigniory

1704
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:40,020
- Valois

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01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:41,020
[Inaudible]

1706
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:43,020
>> First of all, in terms of

1707
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:44,020
- Development Tim Thomas

1708
01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:45,020
- It's Monsieur le

1709
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:46,020
- Maire good development Brent

1710
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:47,020
Cowen

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01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:48,020
- And band of Bruno Tremblay

1712
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,020
- Element and Cynthia I Homan

1713
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:50,020
- Eric vote Stork

1714
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:52,020
- Erin

1715
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:54,020
- Que les so Thorstad-Cullen

1716
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:55,020
- Paul to Bissonnette

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01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:56,020
- Dustin

1718
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:58,020
-. Fort Caroline Thibault

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01:02:58,020 --> 01:02:59,020
- Danielle

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01:02:59,020 --> 01:03:01,080
- Séguin Karina Verdon

1721
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
>> You mentioned about the

1722
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,080
development, and the one side.

1723
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:15,080
There's no one side. Yes, they

1724
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,080
did -- on my citizens, I

1725
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,080
represent my citizens. My

1726
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,080
beliefs don't have to be the

1727
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,080
same as is. But we all believe

1728
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,080
in the same thing. We are all

1729
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,080
pro upper development, we are

1730
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,080
all pro environment. How we get

1731
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,080
there, and we decided, I reasons

1732
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,080
on how to do it, and what not to

1733
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,080
do, all these are help getting

1734
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,080
there. Our values haven't

1735
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,080
changed. What we're doing is we

1736
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,080
have different respects and ways

1737
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,080
to get there. To say that I'm

1738
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,080
pro development is false, to say

1739
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,080
that I'm anti environment, is

1740
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,080
false. If you want to sit down

1741
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,080
and talk about, it I'd be more

1742
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,080
than happy.

1743
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,080
>> Evening that Erin showed the

1744
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,080
developers at the September

1745
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,040
meeting, you voted with them.

1746
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,040
And so --

1747
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,040
>> That speaks for itself. I

1748
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,040
voted for a project that was a

1749
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,040
good project that needed to be

1750
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:16,040
finished. Councillor Stork is

1751
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,040
finished.

1752
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040
>> To have a question for me?

1753
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:25,040
>> I have a second question, but

1754
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,040
everybody else

1755
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,040
[Inaudible]

1756
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,040
I have been here, I have

1757
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,040
witnessed everything.

1758
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:35,040
>> Absolutely, Councillor

1759
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,040
Stainforth.

1760
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,040
>> Everyone on councillors on

1761
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,040
the same page. Some are the

1762
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,040
little for the left, some little

1763
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,040
to the right. As he said, we all

1764
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,040
have different experiences and

1765
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,040
we all see potentially different

1766
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,040
ways of getting to the same

1767
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,040
place, but everybody voted for

1768
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,040
an icy I. Everybody voted to

1769
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,040
redo the urban plan, and

1770
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,040
everyone's practices played

1771
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,040
painting in the strategic plan,

1772
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,000
the urban plan, and we had

1773
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
discussions in caucus even just

1774
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,000
tonight talking about tree

1775
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,000
canopy and environment, not

1776
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,000
brought up by mayor Thomas or

1777
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,000
Councillor Tremblay. As you

1778
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000
would point out that they are

1779
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
the environmentalist's. It is

1780
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000
nothing to do with -- it was

1781
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,000
brought up by someone else on

1782
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,000
Council. I don't think that it's

1783
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,000
fair for you to stand up there

1784
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000
and say that we are anti

1785
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,000
environment and pro development.

1786
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,000
I voted against the -- project,

1787
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,000
actually. I voted against

1788
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
Brevia, I voted against

1789
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
Frontenac. When we vote we need

1790
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,000
to based on the criteria if a

1791
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,000
project comes in in the zone to

1792
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,000
certain way we have to vote

1793
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,000
whether or not the project meets

1794
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,000
the criteria. I might not like

1795
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,000
that zoning, but that's not the

1796
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,000
question. There is plenty of

1797
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,000
zoning I did not like on -- but,

1798
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,000
that isn't what I was being

1799
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,060
asked. I was being asked, does

1800
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:06,060
this project meet the criteria.

1801
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:07,060
I have to vote according to

1802
01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:10,060
that. I cannot vote according to

1803
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:13,060
whatever my desire is. If we all

1804
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:15,060
did that, we will be in

1805
01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:17,060
litigation constantly. And so

1806
01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,060
the projects that have come out

1807
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:21,060
of the RCI have come out because

1808
01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:23,060
when we looked at them they were

1809
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:25,060
so far down the pipe that they

1810
01:06:25,060 --> 01:06:26,060
would win in court. The chances

1811
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:28,060
of them winning was extremely

1812
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:31,060
high. That was from our council

1813
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:32,060
and outside counsel that we were

1814
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:34,060
told. So we had to make a

1815
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:35,060
decision for our citizens, who

1816
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:37,060
are sitting here, who have seen

1817
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:41,060
their taxes go up 5.9% plus

1818
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:42,060
whatever the house evaluation

1819
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:44,060
went up. If we just keep adding

1820
01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:47,060
on millions of dollars of

1821
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:48,060
litigation because I vote how I

1822
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:50,060
feel like voting, that is a huge

1823
01:06:50,060 --> 01:06:52,060
issue. I'm not doing my job and

1824
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:55,060
I'm not doing a service to you.

1825
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:56,060
--

1826
01:06:56,060 --> 01:06:57,060
>> No, I'm still speaking. I'm

1827
01:06:57,060 --> 01:06:58,060
not doing a service to. You my

1828
01:06:58,060 --> 01:06:59,060
job is to look at the facts, to

1829
01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:01,020
look at the rules, the

1830
01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:03,020
regulations, the laws, and to

1831
01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:05,020
make the best decision for

1832
01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:06,020
Pointe-Claire. It's not always a

1833
01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:08,020
decision I enjoy making. There

1834
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:10,020
are decisions I made that I am

1835
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:12,020
against in the sense of, if I

1836
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:13,020
could change that zoning I would

1837
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:15,020
have changed it, but it wasn't

1838
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:17,020
up to me to change it. The

1839
01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:18,020
project arrived on the table,

1840
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:20,020
the zoning was as it was. I wish

1841
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,020
it was different, but it wasn't,

1842
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:24,020
and so I cannot vote against it,

1843
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:25,020
because that's not what I'm

1844
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:27,020
being asked. I just want to

1845
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:29,020
clarify that, because we have

1846
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:31,020
been villainized, villainized,

1847
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:33,020
and this week especially in the

1848
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:36,020
media. We are following

1849
01:07:36,020 --> 01:07:37,020
protocol. We are following the

1850
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:39,020
rules. We are doing our job and

1851
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:41,020
we are doing a service to our

1852
01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:44,020
citizens. We have put a pause on

1853
01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:46,020
development so we can review,

1854
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:48,020
because yes, we agree, there

1855
01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:49,020
were so innings that we felt

1856
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,020
needed to be looked at, needed

1857
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:53,020
to be revised. The needs has

1858
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:55,020
changed since 2010. We're

1859
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:56,020
looking at a different

1860
01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:57,020
environment, a different

1861
01:07:57,020 --> 01:07:59,020
population, things need to

1862
01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:00,080
change. So it's time to sit down

1863
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,080
and change them. There were

1864
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,080
citizens who were unhappy. There

1865
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,080
were Councillors who were

1866
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,080
unhappy with the situation that

1867
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,080
we had before with our old urban

1868
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,080
plan, so before the election,

1869
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,080
even, we said we were going to

1870
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,080
put Ian on RCI. The RCI is not

1871
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,080
something from this councillor,

1872
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,080
something from the previous

1873
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,080
council. So I hope that answers

1874
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,080
your question, because I am

1875
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,080
tired of being told to work with

1876
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,080
the Mayor. I am here working all

1877
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,080
the time. Every day I'm working.

1878
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,080
Every single day, for my

1879
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,080
citizens. I make the best

1880
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,080
decisions for my citizens based

1881
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,080
on information, on research, on

1882
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,080
facts, and what the people who

1883
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,080
are specialized in the City tell

1884
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,080
us as well, because I'm not

1885
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,080
gonna pretend I'm an expert in

1886
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,080
urban planning or in law. That

1887
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,080
is not my expertise. You want to

1888
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,080
talk to me about education, I'll

1889
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,080
chat your ear off. That's my

1890
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
extremities. But I've learned a

1891
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,040
lot in these last five years,

1892
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,040
and I've learned who I can rely

1893
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,040
on. We have excellent employees

1894
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,040
here. Excellent employees. They

1895
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,040
have shared their expertise,

1896
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,040
their craft knowledge, with us.

1897
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,040
And that's what we used to make

1898
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,040
our decisions. So I would ask

1899
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,040
that you stop applauding things

1900
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,040
that insult us. I would ask that

1901
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,040
you stop getting up to the mic

1902
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,040
and urging us to work with him.

1903
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,040
This is not a party. We all ran

1904
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,040
individually to represent our

1905
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,040
own districts. As I said, we are

1906
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,040
all on the same page. This

1907
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,040
narrative that there is pro and

1908
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,040
anti in one ever --

1909
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,040
>> When I see P2P Bill voting

1910
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,040
one way and we will voting this

1911
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,040
way bible that way, you're all

1912
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,040
looking at the same bylaws, and

1913
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,040
some of you are going this way,

1914
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,040
some going that way --

1915
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,040
>> And some of us are following

1916
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,040
core protocol.

1917
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,040
>> Miss Conway, you coming off.

1918
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,040
>> Miss Conway, Miss Conway, I

1919
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,000
think you should let Councillor

1920
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Stainforth finish.

1921
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,000
>> Thank you. When I first ran,

1922
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,000
and I was first elected, that

1923
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,000
first year, the first two years,

1924
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,000
you are running like you have a

1925
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,000
blindfold on, the water is

1926
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,000
coming up, there is so much to

1927
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,000
learn. The learning curve is

1928
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,000
huge. Are there votes I may have

1929
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,000
changed in the past? Perhaps,

1930
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000
with the, knowledge now five

1931
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,000
years later. Like in any job.

1932
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
There is a learning curve. There

1933
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,000
is a six month to one year

1934
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000
learning curve. And so when I

1935
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000
make my vote and you say oh,

1936
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000
well there's five against three

1937
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,000
or six against to, well, we are

1938
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
voting with the knowledge of

1939
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,000
what we need to vote on. We now

1940
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,000
have that experience. And so I'm

1941
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,000
not saying, I'm not trying to

1942
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
throw anyone under the bus here,

1943
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,000
but what I'm seeing here is it's

1944
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,000
not because we are pro this are

1945
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,000
pro that and we want to tear

1946
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,000
down the city of Pointe-Claire

1947
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,000
and put condos up everywhere.

1948
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,060
That has nothing to do with it.

1949
01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:02,060
It's because it says, does this

1950
01:11:02,060 --> 01:11:04,060
meet this criteria. And so we

1951
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:06,060
are voting, yes it meets this

1952
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:10,060
criteria. But it is simple as

1953
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:11,060
that.

1954
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:13,060
>> Do you have a subsequent

1955
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:15,060
question, Miss Conway?

1956
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:16,060
>> I think I will save it for

1957
01:11:16,060 --> 01:11:17,060
another council meeting, but if

1958
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:19,060
you're all looking at the same

1959
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:21,060
bylaws, how could the result be

1960
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:22,060
so different? It's all looking

1961
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:24,060
at the same bylaws. It's all the

1962
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:25,060
same logic.

1963
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:27,060
>> I'll give my two cents as

1964
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:29,060
well. Developers always threaten

1965
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:31,060
to sue if you disagree with

1966
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:35,060
them. Most of them do. If fear

1967
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:37,060
of litigation rules or

1968
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:38,060
decision-making, then developers

1969
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:40,060
will always get what they want.

1970
01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:42,060
Despite the wishes of the

1971
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:44,060
ordinary citizen. And some of us

1972
01:11:44,060 --> 01:11:46,060
would like to stand up for the

1973
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:47,060
ordinary citizen as well as the

1974
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:50,060
developer. That is my goal here.

1975
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:55,060
Thank you. Yes, sir?

1976
01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:58,060
>>

1977
01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:01,020
- Monsieur le Maire...

1978
01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:10,020
>> Maybe some of you know me. My

1979
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:13,020
appearance? You do not? Good.

1980
01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:14,020
>> You ran for mayor.

1981
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:19,020
>> God bless you. So, in short,

1982
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:22,020
first and before guys, thank you

1983
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:25,020
very much for such a, I feel

1984
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:30,020
like back in my 20s, 30s, be

1985
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:34,020
well I was in murky frost, nor

1986
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:36,020
tell, tossed into the acidic

1987
01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:38,020
waters and said wow, it's a

1988
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:41,020
mess. Guys, what is this here?

1989
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:43,020
We have a lot of problems,

1990
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:45,020
apparently. Because actually my

1991
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:47,020
point to come was this stuff,

1992
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:49,020
Mister Mayor. I took a couple of

1993
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:51,020
minutes, as you said, my two

1994
01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:53,020
cents worth to go through and

1995
01:12:53,020 --> 01:12:56,020
immediately my findings here,

1996
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:57,020
they correlate roughly with what

1997
01:12:57,020 --> 01:13:01,080
I heard here. We have an

1998
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,080
increased amounts for spendings

1999
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,080
and partly in between the lines,

2000
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,080
those spendings are for human

2001
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,080
capital. And my point to come

2002
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,080
here was that, I still have my

2003
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,080
pictures, since the time of the

2004
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,080
honourable Mr. -- I approached

2005
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,080
city hall in terms of trying to

2006
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080
push a bit. Actually you are the

2007
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,080
first to go back to push with

2008
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,080
the so-called smart fitness, I

2009
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,080
Canada approach, and the very

2010
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,080
honourable care for mother

2011
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080
nature. Or

2012
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,080
So, is very kind to me and said,

2013
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,080
you know, Teddy, I'm too old for

2014
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,080
that. I don't understand that

2015
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,080
mumbo jumbo. Explain to me what

2016
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,080
the says. I was professional and

2017
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,080
said, this is, that this is

2018
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,080
that. Speaking between Irish,

2019
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,080
English, we would build

2020
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,080
something, hopefully. So, thanks

2021
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,080
to his suggestion, actually, I

2022
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,080
started to permanent my yo I,

2023
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,040
expression of interest. And of

2024
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:05,040
course, job offers. Back at that

2025
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,040
time, there was a tradition

2026
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,040
between him, and Mr. Trudeau, I

2027
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,040
think, at which platform

2028
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,040
appeared for expression of

2029
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,040
interest. For a couple of years

2030
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,040
ago, I noticed that the

2031
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,040
behaviour of that platform is

2032
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,040
jeopardize, which means, it

2033
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,040
would be on you, Mister Mayor.

2034
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,040
You do not have a clear picture.

2035
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,040
You have no clue who, exactly,

2036
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,040
is the candidate. And none of

2037
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,040
the candidates say that they

2038
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,040
come to you. So, I took my time,

2039
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,040
I did some speaking, some

2040
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,040
discussing, getting some

2041
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,040
suggestions as well even things

2042
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,040
that our web based, it is best

2043
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,040
with the tax the guys, the

2044
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,040
schools, driving schools, et

2045
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,040
cetera, and all that happened.

2046
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,040
So, I continue to see that

2047
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,040
nothing is happening. I had time

2048
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:01,000
to speak with Mr. vase, maybe

2049
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,000
it's Vincent or something, he is

2050
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,000
supposed to be with you guys,

2051
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,000
something that is in charge for

2052
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,000
how you stuff the stuffing. How

2053
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,000
do you do the sub contracting?

2054
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,000
How do you do the transparency?

2055
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
The accountability? This is my

2056
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,000
bread and butter. I am a die

2057
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,000
hard like Mr. Thomas, I run my

2058
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,000
own business since 2006. But I'm

2059
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
not dull like him in the Arts.

2060
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,000
This is my bread and butter.

2061
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000
Mister Thomas, in short,

2062
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,000
hopefully it was clear, if you

2063
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,000
just ask me questions. It is

2064
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,000
exactly what is seen inside

2065
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,000
here. It is kept beside from the

2066
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,000
reality. It's a grasp of what

2067
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,000
exactly is ongoing, and for the

2068
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,000
time being, you've never come to

2069
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,000
ask me how to help you. On the

2070
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,000
one side, give me a call over a

2071
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,000
couple of blocks, and I will be

2072
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,000
with you. Thank you for your

2073
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,000
time.

2074
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,000
>> Thank you. Do you have a

2075
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,000
question?

2076
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,000
>> That was. All

2077
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
>> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate

2078
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,060
your assessment. I do think I

2079
01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:01,060
know what I'm doing, but thank

2080
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:02,060
you very much. I will call you

2081
01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:05,060
if I need advice. Thank you.

2082
01:16:13,060 --> 01:16:14,060
>> Good evening there, City

2083
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:19,060
Council, I live in

2084
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:23,060
the route, six district seven,

2085
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:28,060
for six years. The last mayor,

2086
01:16:31,060 --> 01:16:34,060
and City Council, I never saw

2087
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:37,060
this division before. There was

2088
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:39,060
always following the mayor, it

2089
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:43,060
was what he was running for, as

2090
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:47,060
he came to declare for the West

2091
01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:50,060
Island. Did you know, there's a

2092
01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:55,060
new mayor now? The citizens

2093
01:16:55,060 --> 01:16:59,060
elect to you for your vision.

2094
01:17:00,020 --> 01:17:04,020
First, I would think Aaron for

2095
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:09,020
recognize it -- for resigning.

2096
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:13,020
She is a good person, well

2097
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:17,020
educated, well knowledge, young,

2098
01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:20,020
and we need to be representing

2099
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:23,020
young people. She refused the

2100
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:27,020
corruption, she refused to go to

2101
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:30,020
lunch, or dinner with --

2102
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,020
>> A point of order.

2103
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:34,020
>> Councillor, you just paraded

2104
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,020
a citizen, which is also over

2105
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:39,020
the line. Sir. You are not the

2106
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:40,020
chair of this meeting,

2107
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:41,020
counsellor stand forth, I am,

2108
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:43,020
thank you very much, that is my

2109
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:45,020
call. Please continue, sir.

2110
01:17:45,020 --> 01:17:47,020
>> I am permitted to call points

2111
01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:48,020
of order.

2112
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:49,020
>> You have called, it and I

2113
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:50,020
have overruled it. Please

2114
01:17:50,020 --> 01:17:55,020
continue, sir.

2115
01:17:57,020 --> 01:18:00,080
>> I am talking about what she

2116
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,080
said. I'm talking about what she

2117
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,080
said, it's not me. What she said

2118
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,080
in the news, that she refused to

2119
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:12,080
go to dinner, or dine with -- if

2120
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,080
you, know you can tell me?

2121
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,080
>> What is a question, sir?

2122
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:27,080
>> Right here, Mr. Cohen, it is

2123
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,080
--

2124
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,080
>> What is it?

2125
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,080
>> That is last year.

2126
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,080
>> Mr., when to privilege, he

2127
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,080
seems to be smearing me.

2128
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080
>> He hasn't even started yet.

2129
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,080
Let him start.

2130
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,080
>> Secondly, you aren't allowed

2131
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,080
-- to

2132
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,080
>> Excuse me. Councillor --

2133
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,080
>> He hasn't even started yet,

2134
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,080
you're I'm the chair of this

2135
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,080
meeting.

2136
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,080
>> It's against the rules of

2137
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,080
order.

2138
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,080
>> Councillor Cowan, I don't

2139
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,080
know what he is holding up,

2140
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,080
excuse me, could you guys put it

2141
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,080
down, please?

2142
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,040
>> I am just proving what they

2143
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,040
say is promoting the developers,

2144
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,040
and all of the high-rise

2145
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,040
buildings. If you look in the

2146
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,040
newspaper here.

2147
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,040
>> Don't hold it up, but maybe

2148
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,040
you could read something, or

2149
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,040
quote something instead? It

2150
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,040
would be a little more viable

2151
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,040
than holding it up. You are

2152
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,040
supposed to pick it officer,

2153
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,040
Councillor Cowan. Do you have a

2154
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,040
question?

2155
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,040
>> Because, I am answering --

2156
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,040
>> Did we see --

2157
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,040
>> Were saying what Aaron did,

2158
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,040
and what she said. She dedicated

2159
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,040
this to her life. To be with

2160
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:40,040
here, and for the old world it

2161
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,040
was accepting you. You condemned

2162
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,040
what happened to her. So, that

2163
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,040
is what I am saying. Is that

2164
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,040
what we are supposed to learn

2165
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,040
from? For the people who stand

2166
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,040
up to developers? To be working

2167
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,040
for the citizens in

2168
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,040
Pointe-Claire? I am asking all

2169
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,000
of this for you.

2170
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,000
>> I have expressed myself

2171
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,000
numerous times on this already,

2172
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:08,000
and I have no more comment.

2173
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,000
>> What is your question?

2174
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,000
>> My question, are we learning

2175
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,000
from Aaron? Are we going to work

2176
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,000
for the citizens of

2177
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,000
Pointe-Claire?

2178
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,000
>> Working for the citizens of

2179
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,000
Pointe-Claire is what I've been

2180
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,000
doing for five years.

2181
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,000
>> Sorry, I'll tell you exactly

2182
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,000
what they want. They want to

2183
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,000
take care of the environment,

2184
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,000
that is very important, the

2185
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,000
environment, to stop all

2186
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,000
high-rise buildings, and condos,

2187
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,000
and to build affordable, single

2188
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,000
housing, for young families.

2189
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,000
>> We are all trying, very hard,

2190
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,000
to make the city a great city.

2191
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,000
>> Excuse me, sir he is

2192
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,000
responding.

2193
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
>> We are trying to make the

2194
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,000
city a great city. We are trying

2195
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,000
to respond to a great deal of

2196
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:01,060
complicated, complex, and --

2197
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:06,060
contradictory needs. This is

2198
01:21:06,060 --> 01:21:10,060
what we are trying to do.

2199
01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:11,060
>> This is not easy, especially

2200
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:14,060
in the context with so much

2201
01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:17,060
change going on. It's not easy.

2202
01:21:17,060 --> 01:21:18,060
Are you helping us make it

2203
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:19,060
easier?

2204
01:21:19,060 --> 01:21:22,060
>> That is why I am here, to

2205
01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:24,060
support the good decisions, and

2206
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:25,060
to comment on the bad decisions.

2207
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:28,060
I can always see you voting for

2208
01:21:28,060 --> 01:21:29,060
the developer. That is what I am

2209
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:30,060
seeing.

2210
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:32,060
>> Okay, you are starting to

2211
01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:33,060
repeat yourself.

2212
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:34,060
>> What is your answer?

2213
01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:37,060
>> What is your question?

2214
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:40,060
>> How we can try to do what is

2215
01:21:40,060 --> 01:21:43,060
the right thing, the same as we

2216
01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:45,060
did?

2217
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:47,060
>> The same thing we did for --?

2218
01:21:47,060 --> 01:21:50,060
>> Some people resigned. That's

2219
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:53,060
what I've been saying. You

2220
01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:55,060
always seem to be voting for the

2221
01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:58,060
developer.

2222
01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:00,020
>> I don't fully understand the

2223
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:02,020
question, sir, but I can try to

2224
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:03,020
give you an answer if you give

2225
01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:05,020
me a clear question. What are

2226
01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:07,020
you asking?

2227
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:09,020
>> What we can learn from

2228
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:11,020
resigning?

2229
01:22:11,020 --> 01:22:12,020
>> From the Councillor's

2230
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:13,020
resignation? To be more civil to

2231
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,020
each other. That is what we can

2232
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:17,020
learn. I think you are right. I

2233
01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:19,020
think we should learn to be more

2234
01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:22,020
civil. I think our methods of

2235
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:23,020
communication, as we have seen

2236
01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:27,020
tonight, on numerous occasions,

2237
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:29,020
could use some improvement. That

2238
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:32,020
is your answer. You have asked

2239
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:34,020
your question, I think we are

2240
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:38,020
close to the end here.

2241
01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:39,020
>> The second question --

2242
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:40,020
>> You have taken an awful lot

2243
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:41,020
of time at the mic.

2244
01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:43,020
>> People talk to me, I have ten

2245
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:44,020
minutes to talk.

2246
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:45,020
>> One more question, quickly.

2247
01:22:45,020 --> 01:22:46,020
>> Okay, one more question.

2248
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:50,020
>> Okay, quickly.

2249
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:52,020
>> Who is given the information

2250
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:53,020
for Montréal, the City of

2251
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:58,020
Montréal, to increase our taxes?

2252
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:00,080
Our tax evaluation went up by

2253
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,080
53%. The tax, it went up 16.5%.

2254
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,080
So, whose fault is that?

2255
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,080
>> Good question. I am meeting

2256
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,080
with the AMS am on a regular

2257
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,080
basis. We are wondering how to

2258
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,080
get around the constraints of

2259
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,080
the conglomeration council,

2260
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:29,080
which are a real problem for us.

2261
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,080
We are seeing all of the

2262
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,080
awesome, municipality he's all

2263
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,080
have huge taxes. Good asked

2264
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,080
people to stop talking, please?

2265
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,080
Thank you. Thank you.

2266
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,080
>> 56% increase? And 16.5?

2267
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,080
>> U.S. requests, and we're

2268
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,080
answering it now, okay? The AMS

2269
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,080
am, we are currently advisory

2270
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,080
strategies to try to alter the

2271
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,080
way that we can influence

2272
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,080
taxation from the City of

2273
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,040
Montréal. It was very much a

2274
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,040
problem for the A S M, but if

2275
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,040
you will notice, all of the

2276
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,040
municipalities took a heck of a

2277
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,040
wall up, tax wise. We are all

2278
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,040
frustrated, and we know it is an

2279
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,040
issue. Personally, myself, and

2280
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,040
proposing that we start a

2281
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,040
campaign, and educational

2282
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,040
campaign, as to where the

2283
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,040
taxation comes from, and why,

2284
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,040
and try to get more

2285
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,040
accountability out of the city

2286
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,040
itself. We need to see what they

2287
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:36,040
pay for them. It was coming

2288
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,040
here, and is bad as it was. We

2289
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:43,040
look for ways to cut ourselves,

2290
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,040
and there are no new

2291
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,040
expenditures, with things that

2292
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,040
were cutting, when we're cutting

2293
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,040
stuff off, was not making a heck

2294
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:55,040
of a lot of a difference. It's

2295
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,040
really a challenge, and

2296
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,040
frustrating for us, and why the

2297
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,000
demerged very much of a problem.

2298
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,000
How do we stop, that

2299
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,000
politically, and we are

2300
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,000
outnumbered, politically, so

2301
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,000
it's a challenge for us. Thank

2302
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,000
you very much sir. Councillor,

2303
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000
you want to answer something?

2304
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,000
>> Yes, I just want to say, I

2305
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,000
agree with your reference to

2306
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,000
that. It is not an easy task. As

2307
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,000
we see with number seven, they

2308
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,000
will reach out to me, I'm on the

2309
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,000
finance committee, I can explain

2310
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,000
the numbers to you. On February

2311
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,000
4th at the segway chalet, I have

2312
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,000
a group of 40 citizens showing

2313
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,000
up to explain the tax situation,

2314
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,000
so we will discuss that.

2315
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,000
>> Thank you for that.

2316
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,000
>> Excuse, me sir. No, not a

2317
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,000
dialogue, you've had a dialogue

2318
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,000
with Councillor state fourth,

2319
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,000
you had a dialogue with me, I

2320
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,000
think your time is up.

2321
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,000
>> Thank you very much. I don't

2322
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,000
mean to insult anybody here. I

2323
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,000
am just saying what she did, and

2324
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,000
what she feels.

2325
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,000
>> Thank you sir. Thank you very

2326
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,000
much.

2327
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,000
>> Thank. You

2328
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,000
>> Thank. You

2329
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,000
>> Mister Mayor? Ten minutes.

2330
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,000
>> Ten minutes? Okay, thank you.

2331
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,060
>> Good evening, Mark ably,

2332
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:02,060
district one.

2333
01:26:02,060 --> 01:26:03,060
>> I'm sorry, can you repeat

2334
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:05,060
your name?

2335
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:07,060
>> Mark a belief. I am very glad

2336
01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:11,060
to say, I will not be running

2337
01:26:11,060 --> 01:26:13,060
for council in district one.

2338
01:26:13,060 --> 01:26:14,060
Before I ask my question, Mister

2339
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:17,060
Mayor, I want to compliment you

2340
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:19,060
on the public restraint to have

2341
01:26:19,060 --> 01:26:22,060
shown in the face of

2342
01:26:22,060 --> 01:26:23,060
extraordinary, and I would say,

2343
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:24,060
degrading attacks, not least

2344
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:27,060
from one of your councillors. I

2345
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,060
am very glad, and surprised, to

2346
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:30,060
hear that everyone is on the

2347
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:33,060
same page. I hope that it is

2348
01:26:33,060 --> 01:26:35,060
true. My question, like those

2349
01:26:35,060 --> 01:26:37,060
several other people who have

2350
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:39,060
related to their environment, is

2351
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:44,060
more specific than before. When

2352
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:49,060
the target was adopted

2353
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:50,060
unanimously, relating directly

2354
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:53,060
to urban areas like

2355
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:54,060
Pointe-Claire, although the

2356
01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:55,060
wording is bureaucratic, I'm

2357
01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:56,060
sure you and the councillors are

2358
01:26:56,060 --> 01:26:57,060
quite familiar with bureaucratic

2359
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,060
language. The following text

2360
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:02,020
comes from documents 15 slash

2361
01:27:02,020 --> 01:27:05,020
four. In that document, the

2362
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:08,020
party agreed to increase the

2363
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:10,020
area, and quality, and

2364
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:12,020
connectivity of access to, and

2365
01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:14,020
benefits from green, and blue

2366
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:17,020
spaces in urban, and densely

2367
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:19,020
populated area, sustainably. By

2368
01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:22,020
mainstream and the conservation,

2369
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:24,020
sustainable use of biodiversity,

2370
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:25,020
and ensured bio diversity in

2371
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:28,020
urban planning. Enhancing native

2372
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:30,020
biodiversity, ecological

2373
01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:32,020
connectivity, and integrity, and

2374
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:33,020
improving human, health and

2375
01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:34,020
well-being, and connection to

2376
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:36,020
nature, and contributing to

2377
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:38,020
inclusive, and sustainable

2378
01:27:38,020 --> 01:27:40,020
organization, and the provision

2379
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:42,020
of ecosystem functions and

2380
01:27:42,020 --> 01:27:44,020
services. I think they needed an

2381
01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:47,020
editor at top 15, the point

2382
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:48,020
comes through anyways.

2383
01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:50,020
Fortunately, there is an

2384
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:51,020
elegant, and efficient way for

2385
01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:53,020
the city of Pointe-Claire to

2386
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:54,020
increase the area, and quality,

2387
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:57,020
of its green spaces. Enhancing

2388
01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:58,020
biodiversity, while improving

2389
01:27:58,020 --> 01:27:59,020
the citizens well-being, and

2390
01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:02,080
connection to nature. That way,

2391
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,080
is to safeguard the breeding

2392
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,080
habitat of the brown snake, the

2393
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,080
red hawk, the red back

2394
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,080
salamander, and many other wild

2395
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,080
species. By ensuring the

2396
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,080
Fairview forest is, permanently,

2397
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080
off limits to, so-called,

2398
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,080
development. My question, Mister

2399
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,080
Mayor, is this. In light of the

2400
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,080
ever worsening climate crisis,

2401
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,080
and in light of Steven

2402
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,080
Guilbault's effective leadership

2403
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,080
at the cop 15 summit, in light

2404
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,080
of Kelly's public support for

2405
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,080
preserving the Fairview forest,

2406
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,080
and in light of Valérie Plante's

2407
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,080
desire to make Montréal a world

2408
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,080
leader in urban biodiversity, do

2409
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,080
you fear that the Pointe-Claire

2410
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,080
council will allow the forest to

2411
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,080
be cut down, thereby, making our

2412
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,080
city a symbol of shame across

2413
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,080
Québec, if not the rest of

2414
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,080
Canada? Or, are you confident

2415
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,080
that the City will shower nude,

2416
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,080
and principle determination to

2417
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,080
preserve the Fairview forest for

2418
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,080
generations to come?

2419
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:59,080
>> Wow. That's one heck of a

2420
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,040
question. I am confident we

2421
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,040
will. But I am worried, at the

2422
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,040
same time. What percentage of

2423
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,040
the forest will be preserved?

2424
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,040
Will all of it be preserved?

2425
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,040
Will it be whittled away, in

2426
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,040
bits and pieces, overtime? That

2427
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,040
is my major concern. Which is,

2428
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,040
what I've seen, in any kind of

2429
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,040
development process where

2430
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,040
people, slowly, whittle, and the

2431
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,040
end result is where you want to

2432
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,040
go, where it's done slowly, and

2433
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,040
then pieces. That's my major

2434
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,040
concern. I think we are in good

2435
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,040
shape at the moment but, it was

2436
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:35,040
a big splash. I want to see

2437
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,040
what's happen going forward, I

2438
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,040
can predict the future, but I do

2439
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:43,040
have my concerns, absolutely.

2440
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,040
>> May I speak?

2441
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,040
>> Councillor, were going

2442
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040
through question period, there's

2443
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,040
still a gentleman to go.

2444
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,040
>> But Councillor I'm --

2445
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,040
>> Okay, Councillor Stainforth,

2446
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,040
go ahead.

2447
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,040
>> I don't want to say, I've

2448
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,040
been in touch and she had sent

2449
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,040
us some information concerning

2450
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,000
different grants, about a year

2451
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,000
ago. In, which at the time I was

2452
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,000
told, we did not -- they were

2453
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,000
not compatible with our city.

2454
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,000
She's supposed to send me the

2455
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,000
grant information again, so that

2456
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,000
we can forwarded on. I have also

2457
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,000
asked Mayor Thomas, through

2458
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,000
email, several times, about the

2459
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
steps that are being taken as

2460
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,000
the RFP will -- it's not a

2461
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,000
permanent solution. We need to,

2462
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,000
actually, move past the RCI.

2463
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,000
Hopefully, the advocates for

2464
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,000
Fairview forest will continue to

2465
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,000
push that agenda forward, so

2466
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,000
there is some movement on the

2467
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,000
dossier. Especially, as a city,

2468
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,000
we cannot afford, necessarily,

2469
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,000
to buy the land. Absolutely, we

2470
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,000
need other levels of government

2471
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,000
to step in. Hopefully, Valérie

2472
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,000
Plante's statement about willing

2473
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,000
to save 30% of the green space

2474
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,000
on the island will be

2475
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,000
applicable, and ask Mayor Thomas

2476
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,000
if he is taking a meeting with

2477
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,000
her. I haven't received a reply,

2478
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,060
so perhaps, you can apply today.

2479
01:31:00,060 --> 01:31:02,060
>> I have read, and requested a

2480
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:04,060
meeting with her.

2481
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:05,060
>> Mister Mayor, if I may?

2482
01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:07,060
>> Thank you very much Mister a

2483
01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:09,060
belief for the question,

2484
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:12,060
wonderfully presented. Really,

2485
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:14,060
quite crucial as we are entering

2486
01:31:14,060 --> 01:31:16,060
into a phase where we need to

2487
01:31:16,060 --> 01:31:20,060
start looking at how we will

2488
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:22,060
evolve our development program

2489
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:25,060
in the ICB and control bylaw.

2490
01:31:25,060 --> 01:31:27,060
So, one of the things that I

2491
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:31,060
think we need to look at on

2492
01:31:32,060 --> 01:31:35,060
where they stop working, and the

2493
01:31:35,060 --> 01:31:39,060
Fairview forest is negotiable.

2494
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:41,060
The reason we bring it up as we

2495
01:31:41,060 --> 01:31:42,060
have a contradictory position in

2496
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:46,060
terms of how we manage, how we

2497
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:48,060
interact the natural spaces that

2498
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:51,060
we share, or our neighbours to,

2499
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:53,060
and if you consider the brown

2500
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:54,060
snake is an example that you

2501
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:56,060
brought up, it was recently, and

2502
01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:59,060
sadly, promoted to a threatened

2503
01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:01,020
species in Québec. Different

2504
01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:02,020
jurisdictions, with different

2505
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:04,020
levels of alarm when it comes to

2506
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:06,020
different species. And,

2507
01:32:06,020 --> 01:32:08,020
unfortunately, that poor animal,

2508
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:12,020
or reptile, in this case, is at

2509
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:15,020
that point. So, we are good at

2510
01:32:15,020 --> 01:32:16,020
being able to catalogue the

2511
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:17,020
different species and trouble,

2512
01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:19,020
but where we have an enormous

2513
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:21,020
amount of trouble is in terms of

2514
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,020
legislation from the provincial

2515
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:23,020
government, federal government,

2516
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:25,020
et cetera, and from the

2517
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:27,020
perspective of people who own

2518
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:29,020
natural areas is to understand,

2519
01:32:29,020 --> 01:32:31,020
the brown snake lives in a

2520
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:33,020
particular habitat. If that

2521
01:32:33,020 --> 01:32:34,020
habitat continues to be

2522
01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:36,020
threatened, they cannot live.

2523
01:32:36,020 --> 01:32:38,020
So, we need to, as we enter

2524
01:32:38,020 --> 01:32:40,020
these phases again, to really

2525
01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:43,020
keep in mind, these kinds of

2526
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:46,020
areas are not negotiable. These

2527
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:47,020
are areas where, I believe,

2528
01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:48,020
developers have an opportunity,

2529
01:32:48,020 --> 01:32:52,020
today, if they want to develop

2530
01:32:52,020 --> 01:32:53,020
the Tesla's of retail, the

2531
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:55,020
Teslas of industrial, the Tesla

2532
01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:57,020
is, of whatever it might be --

2533
01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:59,020
I'm just using that Tesla

2534
01:32:59,020 --> 01:33:00,080
example is it might be apple, or

2535
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,080
creativity, basically, around

2536
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,080
looking natural spaces as part

2537
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,080
of their development, so that we

2538
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,080
can begin to weave natural

2539
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,080
ecosystems within the urban

2540
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,080
fabric we are designing today.

2541
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,080
This might mean, we need to take

2542
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,080
some time to consider all of

2543
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,080
that. We need that time, as a

2544
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,080
Council, to be able to speak

2545
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,080
with our residents, to speak to

2546
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,080
all people who are involved in

2547
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,080
this process, so that we can,

2548
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,080
finally, get to that point.

2549
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,080
Unless we do that, and we start

2550
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,080
-- and continue, to do things

2551
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:31,080
that we've done in the past,

2552
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,080
which make these economic goals,

2553
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,080
as opposed to societal, and

2554
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,080
environmental goals, we will run

2555
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,080
into problems, and we will keep

2556
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,080
slipping. I bet you, the next

2557
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,080
cop meeting we run out, the only

2558
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:42,080
thing that will have changed is

2559
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,080
more species threatened, less

2560
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,080
percentage of protective space.

2561
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,080
Thank you for the question.

2562
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,080
>> Sorry, Mr. Abley?

2563
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:53,080
>> That is one of the thank you

2564
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:54,080
all for your courteous

2565
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,080
responses. I would even say,

2566
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,080
encouraging responses. I just

2567
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,080
want to say, there is a great

2568
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,040
deal of public support for

2569
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:02,040
preserving the Fairview forest.

2570
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,040
I think it is something that all

2571
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:05,040
councillors, as well as the

2572
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,040
Mayor, should be aware of.

2573
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,040
>> Thank you. Just on a final

2574
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,040
note, thank you for your kind

2575
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,040
words. In light of Councillor

2576
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,040
Ted for his resignation, I would

2577
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,040
like to say, I think, we have

2578
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,040
seen some evidence of what she

2579
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,040
has had to endure, and what I

2580
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,040
have had to endure, and I do

2581
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,040
thank you for your kind words.

2582
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:26,040
We are very appreciative.

2583
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,040
>> Mister Mayor, councillors,

2584
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,040
two very quick questions. I will

2585
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,040
keep my preamble short for you.

2586
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,040
Maybe I will run for district.

2587
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,040
>> Sorry, please just state your

2588
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,040
name.

2589
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,040
>> -- district one. Just to,

2590
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,040
quickly, you sort of touched on

2591
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,040
it Mister Mayor, there needs to

2592
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,040
be some public information about

2593
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,040
the recent tax increase. Some

2594
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,040
comments that were, made

2595
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,040
publicly, by yourself were

2596
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,040
incorrect. The average was not

2597
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,000
5.9%, that was written in a

2598
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,000
Gazette article stating you had

2599
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,000
made that comment, so, I would

2600
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,000
ask the City to publish

2601
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,000
something in the immediate

2602
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:12,000
future, outlining why our taxes

2603
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,000
have gone up, a random amount. I

2604
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:19,000
have had everybody tell me, they

2605
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,000
are going 56% increase, 16.5,

2606
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,000
mine went up 50% on evaluation,

2607
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,000
and my taxes went up 17.8%. It's

2608
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,000
all over the map. We the city

2609
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:34,000
knew this was coming. We all

2610
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,000
knew this was coming. Yes, we

2611
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,000
did. We all knew evaluations

2612
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,000
would increase dramatically. It

2613
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,000
was told to us in the fall, so,

2614
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,000
we could have something with an

2615
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,000
educational piece, which is

2616
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,000
presented to the residents of

2617
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Pointe-Claire, so that we all

2618
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,000
understand. If you look on

2619
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,000
social media, within dialogues

2620
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,000
within communities, we are all

2621
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,000
trying to figure out what just

2622
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,060
happened. So, the City should

2623
01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:02,060
have been ahead of it, and

2624
01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:04,060
publish this before. I do

2625
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:05,060
understand, you would like to do

2626
01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:06,060
this, but it does need to be

2627
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:07,060
done yesterday.

2628
01:36:07,060 --> 01:36:09,060
>> No, that's a valid point. As

2629
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:14,060
to the 5.9%, I will let Mr.

2630
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:15,060
Sanders speak to that in a

2631
01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:16,060
second. But, bearing in mind,

2632
01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:19,060
this is across the board.

2633
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:21,060
Everybody is enduring this, and

2634
01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:22,060
we were not prepared for this

2635
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:25,060
increase. You can anticipate, it

2636
01:36:25,060 --> 01:36:27,060
a bit, but this one, I think,

2637
01:36:27,060 --> 01:36:28,060
was a surprise, speaking

2638
01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:31,060
personally. Speaking with my

2639
01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:32,060
other mayors, I think we, of

2640
01:36:32,060 --> 01:36:35,060
all, we are somewhat taken

2641
01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:38,060
aback. Especially in bitter Fay,

2642
01:36:38,060 --> 01:36:40,060
and delivered. They got it worse

2643
01:36:40,060 --> 01:36:44,060
than us. St. Anne is really bad.

2644
01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:46,060
Speaking with others, do you

2645
01:36:46,060 --> 01:36:47,060
have a response to him?

2646
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:50,060
>> The average increase in

2647
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:52,060
value, for the average house of

2648
01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:56,060
Pointe-Claire, was 42%. Combined

2649
01:36:56,060 --> 01:36:58,060
with an increase in the mail

2650
01:36:58,060 --> 01:37:00,020
rate, or an increase of the

2651
01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:03,020
taxes of 5.9, there is a

2652
01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:05,020
presentation on the website, and

2653
01:37:05,020 --> 01:37:07,020
we did a presentation when we

2654
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:10,020
presented the budget. The

2655
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:11,020
PowerPoint is on the website.

2656
01:37:11,020 --> 01:37:14,020
There is a graph attached to

2657
01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:16,020
that presentation where we

2658
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:18,020
explain all of the houses that

2659
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:20,020
have an increase in value of

2660
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:23,020
more than 42%, will be hit, or

2661
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:24,020
would be hit, by a greater

2662
01:37:24,020 --> 01:37:29,020
increase in taxes of 5.9 plus

2663
01:37:29,020 --> 01:37:31,020
the increase above the average,

2664
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:35,020
which was 42%. So, it is

2665
01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:38,020
explained, but if you want, you

2666
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:40,020
can call me tomorrow, we can

2667
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:42,020
take the time to go through it

2668
01:37:42,020 --> 01:37:43,020
--

2669
01:37:43,020 --> 01:37:44,020
>> No, I just want the link to

2670
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:47,020
this. I just couldn't find it.

2671
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:49,020
I'm a little webs of a. None of

2672
01:37:49,020 --> 01:37:50,020
my neighbours could find it

2673
01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:51,020
either.

2674
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:52,020
>> You are welcome to call me

2675
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:55,020
tomorrow, and I will explain to

2676
01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:57,020
you where the link is on the

2677
01:37:57,020 --> 01:37:59,020
website, and I will give you all

2678
01:37:59,020 --> 01:38:01,080
of the explanations about the

2679
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:02,080
tax increase, and the increase

2680
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,080
in value of the houses. There is

2681
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,080
a graph attached to that.

2682
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,080
>> Appreciate the information,

2683
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,080
very different in what was

2684
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,080
published in the media. Very

2685
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,080
very different. I have a second

2686
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:14,080
question.

2687
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,080
>> How are we doing for time

2688
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,080
Madam to bow? We are past?

2689
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,080
>> Two minutes past, yes.

2690
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,080
>> Keep it very short. Public

2691
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,080
consultations, what are they

2692
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,080
happening, and can you please

2693
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,080
elaborate on the resolution for

2694
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,080
purpose and, sorry, stronger

2695
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,080
glasses, resolution for the

2696
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,080
purpose of ensuring public park

2697
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,080
participation intervening to

2698
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,080
future zones of and you won, and

2699
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:41,080
Mu2. A special meeting, that is

2700
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,080
now slated for Thursday night,

2701
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:45,080
January 19th.

2702
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,080
>> Yes. That will be a special

2703
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,080
meeting on how to send a mandate

2704
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,080
letter. Are we allowed to speak

2705
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,080
to this? Are my allowed to speak

2706
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,080
to this Madam Thibault?

2707
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,080
>> Yes. You can welcome people

2708
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,080
to Thursday night.

2709
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,040
>> So, it is a meeting, designed

2710
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:07,040
to contemplate the future, and

2711
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:08,040
further communication between

2712
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,040
the director general, and her

2713
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:11,040
mandate letter, and Cadillac

2714
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,040
Fairview, regarding zones Mu1,

2715
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,040
and Mu2. You are all welcome to

2716
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,040
attend.

2717
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,040
>> How does it do with a public

2718
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,040
consultation?

2719
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,040
>> Because it is a public

2720
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
meeting, I guess? I mean, as far

2721
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,040
as public consultation goes, I

2722
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:32,040
would have liked it five months

2723
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,040
ago. The citizens should be in,

2724
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,040
there right now. That would be

2725
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,040
my wish, and that would be my

2726
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,040
proposal in today's. That we

2727
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,040
will get public consultation

2728
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,040
where we are far too far along

2729
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,040
in the process. It should've

2730
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,040
been done sooner, and that is my

2731
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,040
express wish. That answers your

2732
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:51,040
question Mister present?

2733
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,040
>> No, I'm a little confused.

2734
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,040
>> You don't have a subsequent

2735
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,040
question? We will pass the

2736
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,040
timeline. You have your answer.

2737
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,000
You have your answer. Thank you

2738
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,000
sir.

2739
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,000
>> Excuse, me Mister Mayor.

2740
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Could I just make a small

2741
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,000
correction when Mr. Frechette, I

2742
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,000
can answer your question. The

2743
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,000
purpose of the resolution is to

2744
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,000
discuss the resolution between

2745
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,000
the director general, and the

2746
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,000
representative of Cadillac

2747
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,000
Fairview, if, of course,

2748
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,000
represented with Cadillac

2749
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,000
Fairview agreed to participate

2750
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,000
in that. The idea is to set in

2751
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,000
motion that discussion, so that

2752
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,000
we can get to a public

2753
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:32,000
consultation on the future of

2754
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,000
anyone, so Ms. Mu1, and Mu2. So,

2755
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,000
that is the aim. It is to

2756
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,000
establish a roadmap that is

2757
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,000
mutually agreeable, with

2758
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:40,000
Cadillac Fairview, and with the

2759
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,000
City, that will create public

2760
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,000
consultations, and then, in the

2761
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:49,000
end, be able to create a

2762
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,000
mutually agreeable -- which

2763
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,000
means, to the citizens of

2764
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,000
Pointe-Claire, that their

2765
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,000
aspirations work into that as

2766
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,060
well. That we can make a

2767
01:41:00,060 --> 01:41:01,060
comprehensive plan for that

2768
01:41:01,060 --> 01:41:04,060
area. This may, very well,

2769
01:41:04,060 --> 01:41:07,060
possibly, be the preservation of

2770
01:41:07,060 --> 01:41:08,060
the entire Fairview forest, or

2771
01:41:08,060 --> 01:41:10,060
not. That is up to the citizens

2772
01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:12,060
of Pointe-Claire to work out.

2773
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:13,060
The whole aim is to get there,

2774
01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:15,060
finally, because I do agree with

2775
01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:16,060
the Mayor, it has been far too

2776
01:41:16,060 --> 01:41:18,060
long. We haven't gotten

2777
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:19,060
anywhere.

2778
01:41:19,060 --> 01:41:20,060
>> Thank you Councillor Cohen.

2779
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:22,060
>> Thank you Mister Fréchette.

2780
01:41:22,060 --> 01:41:24,060
>> Thank you.

2781
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:27,060
>> That is fine, Mr. Frechette,

2782
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:29,060
you can sit down. My feeling on

2783
01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:30,060
that is that I would like to

2784
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:31,060
have public consultation before

2785
01:41:31,060 --> 01:41:33,060
we get to that roadmap. So, it

2786
01:41:33,060 --> 01:41:35,060
is a chicken or the egg thing.

2787
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:36,060
Which comes first. My preference

2788
01:41:36,060 --> 01:41:38,060
would be public consultation

2789
01:41:38,060 --> 01:41:41,060
before we go to that process.

2790
01:41:41,060 --> 01:41:42,060
That's fine.

2791
01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:47,060
>> Yes? Okay. Shall we continue?

2792
01:41:51,060 --> 01:41:54,060
>> 611. Bylaw on specific

2793
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:59,060
construction -- sorry, no one's

2794
01:42:02,020 --> 01:42:03,020
listening to me. It's okay, no

2795
01:42:03,020 --> 01:42:04,020
problem, don't take it personal.

2796
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:09,020
Feel free to go. Even you.

2797
01:42:14,020 --> 01:42:18,020
Sorry, 611. Bylaw on specific

2798
01:42:18,020 --> 01:42:20,020
construction, authorization, or

2799
01:42:20,020 --> 01:42:23,020
occupancy proposals for an

2800
01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:27,020
immovable -- this bylaw is

2801
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:29,020
discretionary in nature, and

2802
01:42:29,020 --> 01:42:31,020
allows, under certain conditions

2803
01:42:31,020 --> 01:42:33,020
that, the project may be carried

2804
01:42:33,020 --> 01:42:37,020
out, despite the fact that it

2805
01:42:37,020 --> 01:42:38,020
delegates from, one or the

2806
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:41,020
other, to the provisions of the

2807
01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:42,020
Planning bylaws. To be

2808
01:42:42,020 --> 01:42:44,020
admissible, the project must be

2809
01:42:44,020 --> 01:42:45,020
in conformity with the objective

2810
01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:48,020
of the client program, or the

2811
01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:49,020
objectives of a specific

2812
01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:51,020
planning program when

2813
01:42:51,020 --> 01:42:55,020
applicable. Once enforced, this

2814
01:42:55,020 --> 01:42:56,020
bylaw is applicable throughout

2815
01:42:56,020 --> 01:42:57,020
the territory. This is known as

2816
01:42:57,020 --> 01:43:01,080
a motion.

2817
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,080
>> I have a mover?

2818
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,080
>> Cynthia Homan, district five,

2819
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,080
I move to accept this motion.

2820
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,080
>> Seconder?

2821
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,080
>> Sorry, it's just a motion,

2822
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,080
just needing That.

2823
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,080
>> 6.2.1 Premier projet de

2824
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,080
règlement sur les projets

2825
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:19,080
Particuliers de construction, de

2826
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:20,080
modification ou d'occupation

2827
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,080
d'un immeuble

2828
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:22,080
(PPCMOI)

2829
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:27,080
. Donc c'est la même description

2830
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:29,080
que l'avis de motion qui vient

2831
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:33,080
d'être donné par la conseillère

2832
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,080
Cynthia Homan.

2833
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,080
>> Do I have a mover?

2834
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,080
>> So the Homan, district five.

2835
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:43,080
>> District. To

2836
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,080
>> All in favour?,

2837
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:01,040
. Since they are no longer

2838
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,040
applicable, secondly the rates

2839
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,040
of fines must be modified to be

2840
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,040
consistent with the entire

2841
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,040
territory of the island of

2842
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,040
Montréal. 6.5.2 Règlement

2843
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:13,040
modifiant le Règlement sur les

2844
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:14,040
usages conditionnels PC-2791

2845
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,040
afin de permettre des activités

2846
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,040
additionnelles à même certains

2847
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:19,040
Établissements de transformation

2848
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:20,040
et/ou de fabrication faisant

2849
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,040
partie intégrante de la

2850
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:27,040
classification des usages

2851
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,040
industriels. le règlement

2852
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:34,040
concernait spécifiquement les

2853
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,040
zones N9 et N11 dans les zones

2854
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,040
industrielles. Il vise à

2855
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,040
permettre dans un local

2856
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,040
industriel certaines activités

2857
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,040
optionnelle comme la

2858
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:44,040
consommation sur place ou la

2859
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,040
vente de produits fabriqués sur

2860
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,040
le site. D'autres modifications

2861
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:49,040
sont d'ordre plus cléricales.

2862
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:52,040
>> For

2863
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:53,040
Six point 5.1 and six point 5.2,

2864
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,040
do I have a mover?

2865
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,040
- Oui, je propose l'adoption des

2866
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:00,000
règlements.

2867
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,000
>> And seconder?

2868
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,000
>>

2869
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,000
- Trent Cohen, Brent district

2870
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,000
numéro 8. Cowan, district 8.

2871
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:11,000
>> I oppose.

2872
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:12,000
>> Councillor Bissonnette, you

2873
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:17,000
oppose? Okay. All those against?

2874
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,000
- Monsieur Bissonnette, vous

2875
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:23,000
votez contre quelle

2876
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:24,000
>>...

2877
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,000
- 6.5.2. Six point 5.2.

2878
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,000
>> 8.2 Grant a financial support

2879
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:47,000
to the low vision self help

2880
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,000
Association. No vision self-help

2881
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,000
is in association that-esque as

2882
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,000
its people with vision loss to

2883
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,000
have people be more active and

2884
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:59,000
in involved in their communities

2885
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:00,060
since 9.2 Nommer des membres au

2886
01:46:00,060 --> 01:46:01,060
sein du Comité consultatif de la

2887
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:02,060
Bibliothèque publique de

2888
01:46:02,060 --> 01:46:04,060
Pointe-Claire. 1988. Il s'agit

2889
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:06,060
de nommer, de procéder à l'homme

2890
01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:07,060
d'une nation de monsieur marques

2891
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:10,060
à blé et au renouvellement des

2892
01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:12,060
mandats de madame Geneviève

2893
01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:16,060
Michal et Chantal St-Jacques.

2894
01:46:20,060 --> 01:46:25,060
9.2 for the Pointe-Claire

2895
01:46:25,060 --> 01:46:28,060
purpose of the resolution is to

2896
01:46:28,060 --> 01:46:30,060
appoint Mrs. Perez scene and Mr.

2897
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:31,060
and repeating as members of the

2898
01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:33,060
board of directors of the

2899
01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:35,060
Pointe-Claire canoe and kayak

2900
01:46:35,060 --> 01:46:37,060
club for a three-year term,

2901
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:40,060
beginning January 18th, 2023,

2902
01:46:40,060 --> 01:46:42,060
and to appoint Mr. Michel are

2903
01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:44,060
Shawn Ball as chairman of the

2904
01:46:44,060 --> 01:46:48,060
board of directors for two-year

2905
01:46:48,060 --> 01:46:52,060
term beginning January one 2023.

2906
01:46:52,060 --> 01:46:56,060
>> Do I have a mover?

2907
01:46:56,060 --> 01:46:59,060
>> I move to approve 8.2 as well

2908
01:47:06,020 --> 01:47:09,020
as 9.2 and 9.3.

2909
01:47:09,020 --> 01:47:10,020
>> 9.4 Déposer le procès-verbal

2910
01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:11,020
de la réunion du 24 all in

2911
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:12,020
favour? Novembre 2022 du Comité

2912
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:13,020
consultatif de la

2913
01:47:13,020 --> 01:47:14,020
Bibliothèque publique de

2914
01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:19,020
Pointe-Claire.

2915
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:29,020
>> 12.1 approve waiting and

2916
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:30,020
confirmation criteria. This is

2917
01:47:30,020 --> 01:47:32,020
approval of a standard selection

2918
01:47:32,020 --> 01:47:35,020
criteria grid often used by the

2919
01:47:35,020 --> 01:47:36,020
building department for

2920
01:47:36,020 --> 01:47:39,020
professional, architectural, in

2921
01:47:39,020 --> 01:47:41,020
engineering services.

2922
01:47:41,020 --> 01:47:43,020
>> Do I have a mover?

2923
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:46,020
>> Brent Cowan, district 8.

2924
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:50,020
>> And a seconder?

2925
01:47:50,020 --> 01:47:51,020
>> 12.2 Déposer la liste des

2926
01:47:51,020 --> 01:47:52,020
amendements budgétaires Eric

2927
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:53,020
Stork, et le registre des

2928
01:47:53,020 --> 01:47:54,020
chèques pour la période du 24

2929
01:47:54,020 --> 01:47:55,020
district seven.

2930
01:47:55,020 --> 01:47:58,020
Novembre 2022 au 4 janvier 2023.

2931
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,080
>> Section three of the act

2932
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,080
respecting elections and 13.2

2933
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,080
Avis de vacance d'un poste au

2934
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:31,080
sein du conseil. municipalities.

2935
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:32,080
Conformément à l' article 333

2936
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,080
sur la Loi sur les élections et

2937
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,080
les référendums dans les

2938
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,080
municipalités, j'avise par la

2939
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,080
présente le conseil municipal de

2940
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:39,080
la vacance au poste de

2941
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,080
conseiller du district un et

2942
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,080
deux, Le Village de la ville

2943
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,080
doit claire, le poste devra donc

2944
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:47,080
être comblé par une élection

2945
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,080
partielle et ce par l'article

2946
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,080
335 de la loi. La directrice du

2947
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,080
scrutin comblera le poste par

2948
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,040
scrutin d'ici trois mois en

2949
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,040
accordance avec l'article 339 de

2950
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:07,040
la Loi. 14.1,. 14.2 Approuver la

2951
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,040
liste des changements au

2952
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,040
personnel par décisions non

2953
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:14,040
déléguées au 17 janvier 2023..

2954
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:18,040
>>?

2955
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,040
>> Do I have a? Mover

2956
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,040
>> Second? Are you

2957
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:24,040
>> Seconded.

2958
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,040
>> All in favour? 14.1 for the

2959
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:43,040
month of $57,486.35, taxes

2960
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,040
included for services and

2961
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,040
disposable and recovery of large

2962
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:50,040
upholstered items. In accordance

2963
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040
with the sustainable development

2964
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,040
policy adopted by the City in

2965
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,040
2017, public works and buildings

2966
01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:00,000
department ensures that the

2967
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,000
supplier of -- recovers and

2968
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,000
motions of items like mattresses

2969
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,000
and sofas, collected at

2970
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,000
ecocentre and special door to

2971
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,000
door collection in order to

2972
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:13,000
minimize landfilling of these

2973
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,000
large Items. 16.2 Se prévaloir

2974
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,000
de l'option de renouvellement

2975
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,000
prévue au contrat intervenu avec

2976
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,000
« 100% Environnemental

2977
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,000
(4121104 Canada Inc.)

2978
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,000
», pour l'année 2023, au

2979
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,000
montant de 68 985,00 $, taxes

2980
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,000
incluses, concernant la

2981
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,000
fourniture des services de

2982
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:28,000
collectes spéciales d’articles

2983
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,000
rembourrés. cette démarche

2984
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:31,000
apporte des de poursuivre le

2985
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,000
contrat des collectes annuelles

2986
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:34,000
d'articles rembourrer

2987
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,000
porte-à-porte pour l'année 2023

2988
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,000
dans le but de nous permettre...

2989
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,000
de permettre, pardon, la

2990
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,000
récupération et la valorisation

2991
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:44,000
des matières résiduelles.

2992
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,000
>> For 16.1 and 16.2, do I have

2993
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:51,000
a mover? And second? Are

2994
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:52,000
- J'appuie

2995
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,000
>> Du... -- Bruno Tremblay.

2996
01:50:55,000 --> 01:51:00,060
>> All in, favour?

2997
01:51:00,060 --> 01:51:01,060
>> 16.1, oui 16.2, disent Rick

2998
01:51:01,060 --> 01:51:03,060
six. 16.3, a water contract for

2999
01:51:03,060 --> 01:51:05,060
agriculture works for the

3000
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:08,060
District 6.

3001
01:51:08,060 --> 01:51:10,060
2023 to set the -- for total

3002
01:51:10,060 --> 01:51:15,060
amount of three in a $92,352.19,

3003
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:20,060
taxes included. Were the years

3004
01:51:20,060 --> 01:51:21,060
2024 and 2025 an option. The

3005
01:51:21,060 --> 01:51:24,060
work consists of pruning,

3006
01:51:24,060 --> 01:51:26,060
bracing filling and removal of

3007
01:51:26,060 --> 01:51:30,060
woody debris throughout the year

3008
01:51:30,060 --> 01:51:33,060
at rates and in emergency

3009
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:34,060
situations at any time at the

3010
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:35,060
request of 16.4 Octroyer un

3011
01:51:35,060 --> 01:51:36,060
contrat pour le remplacement des

3012
01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:37,060
the City. Filets de deux

3013
01:51:37,060 --> 01:51:39,060
structures de jeux aux parcs

3014
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:40,060
Seigniory et Valois, à

3015
01:51:40,060 --> 01:51:42,060
« Atmosphäre Inc. », pour un

3016
01:51:42,060 --> 01:51:43,060
montant total de 83 336,18 $,

3017
01:51:43,060 --> 01:51:48,060
taxes incluses. le but de cette

3018
01:51:50,060 --> 01:51:52,060
résolution est de procéder à

3019
01:51:52,060 --> 01:51:53,060
l'octroi de contrats pour le

3020
01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:55,060
remplacement des filets

3021
01:51:55,060 --> 01:51:57,060
grimpeurs de deux structures de

3022
01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:59,060
jeu corde accordes qui ont été

3023
01:51:59,060 --> 01:52:00,020
installées en 2000 et 2003. Les

3024
01:52:00,020 --> 01:52:02,020
cordages des deux filets

3025
01:52:02,020 --> 01:52:03,020
grimpeur ont atteint une mesure

3026
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:04,020
qui nécessite le remplacement

3027
01:52:04,020 --> 01:52:06,020
complet pour garantir la

3028
01:52:06,020 --> 01:52:08,020
sécurité future des utilisateurs

3029
01:52:08,020 --> 01:52:11,020
âgés de 5 à 12 ans. 16

3030
01:52:23,020 --> 01:52:28,020
16.5, two amount of

3031
01:52:30,020 --> 01:52:31,020
19,000 1700 and $13.78, taxes

3032
01:52:31,020 --> 01:52:35,020
included, with the year 2005 on

3033
01:52:35,020 --> 01:52:38,020
option. The contract will allow

3034
01:52:38,020 --> 01:52:40,020
the rehabilitation various types

3035
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:42,020
of existing fences and the

3036
01:52:42,020 --> 01:52:44,020
installation of new fences

3037
01:52:44,020 --> 01:52:45,020
within the city 14.1 of 16.6

3038
01:52:45,020 --> 01:52:46,020
Octroyer un contrat pour des

3039
01:52:46,020 --> 01:52:47,020
travaux d'abattage

3040
01:52:47,020 --> 01:52:48,020
Pointe-Claire. De frênes pour

3041
01:52:48,020 --> 01:52:49,020
l'année 2023, à « Émondage SBP »

3042
01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:50,020
pour un montant total de 389

3043
01:52:50,020 --> 01:52:51,020
658,15 $, 14.1 taxes incluses,

3044
01:52:51,020 --> 01:52:56,020
et à « Arbo-Design », pour un

3045
01:52:57,020 --> 01:52:58,020
montant total de 35 555,16 $,

3046
01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:03,080
taxes incluses. le but de ce

3047
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:06,080
dossier est d'octroyer un

3048
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,080
contrat réparties en quatre lots

3049
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:10,080
distincts pour des travaux

3050
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:11,080
davantage de frênes et de

3051
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:12,080
ramassage de débris ligneux sur

3052
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:15,080
le territoire de la ville pour

3053
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,080
l'année 2023 en faveur de la

3054
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:20,080
compagnie... pour les lots A, B,

3055
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:25,080
C, et la compagnie... pour le

3056
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:27,080
lot D.

3057
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:32,080
>> Do I have a mover?

3058
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:35,080
>> Kelly --, district 3

3059
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:36,080
>> A seconder?

3060
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,080
>> Seconded by --

3061
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:43,080
>> Oliver?

3062
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,080
>> 16.7, approval to contract

3063
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:48,080
entered into -- with four

3064
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:49,080
additional hours for the

3065
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,080
maintenance of the landscape

3066
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:52,080
bands along I miss Boulevard for

3067
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:57,080
an amount of

3068
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,040
$1,583.78, taxes included, a

3069
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,040
bagel 40 hours was contracted

3070
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,040
for landscaping prove months and

3071
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,040
the hours were exceeded in order

3072
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,040
to complete the application of

3073
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,040
mulch, to 16.8 Approuver une

3074
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,040
modification au contrat

3075
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:13,040
intervenu all landscape beds

3076
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,040
12.1. Avec « Sanibert Inc. »,

3077
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,040
pour des services de location de

3078
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,040
toilettes chimiques, pour un

3079
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:21,040
montant de 9 501,13 $, taxes

3080
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,040
incluses. en raison de

3081
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,040
l'augmentation du nombre de

3082
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,040
toilettes, de l'augmentation des

3083
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,040
entretiens est... hebdomadaire,

3084
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:33,040
de l'augmentation de la durée de

3085
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,040
location et nettoyage de

3086
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:35,040
graffitis, il y a eu dépassement

3087
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:40,040
de coûts.

3088
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:46,040
16.9 for the spine installation

3089
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,040
of crosswalks emails for

3090
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,040
pedestrians of the type of

3091
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,040
rectangular rapid flashing

3092
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,040
beacons, for an amount of

3093
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,040
$2,491.67, tax included. In

3094
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,000
order to ensure the

3095
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,000
functionality of the new cross

3096
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,000
walk signal system at the --

3097
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:10,000
south side towers towards the

3098
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,000
highway 40 key service road,

3099
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,000
protesting was required prior to

3100
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,000
installation. Following a

3101
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,000
positive functionality test, the

3102
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,000
removal, and disposal of

3103
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,000
existing defective system was

3104
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,000
required in order to install the

3105
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:28,000
new system at the same location.

3106
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:35,000
>> Four 16.7 and.9, do I have a

3107
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:39,000
mover?

3108
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,000
>> 16.7, I believe.

3109
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,000
>>.7,.9.

3110
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,000
>> Brent Cowan, district eight?

3111
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,000
>> -- District to.

3112
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,000
>> All in favour? 18.1

3113
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,000
Considérer les plans

3114
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,000
d’implantation et d’intégration

3115
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,000
architecturale relatifs aux

3116
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:56,000
propriétés sises aux 148, avenue

3117
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:57,000
de Windward Crescent, 412,

3118
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,000
avenue Saint-Louis et 208,

3119
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:03,060
chemin du Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore.

3120
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:05,060
Le 140, huit avenue de Wild

3121
01:56:05,060 --> 01:56:07,060
Ward, il s'agit de rénovation

3122
01:56:07,060 --> 01:56:08,060
extérieurs, lequel 112, avenue

3123
01:56:08,060 --> 01:56:09,060
Saint-Louis, une nouvelle

3124
01:56:09,060 --> 01:56:11,060
construction et le 208, chemin

3125
01:56:11,060 --> 01:56:13,060
du bord du lac Lakeshore, des

3126
01:56:13,060 --> 01:56:18,060
rénovations extérieures. 18.2,

3127
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:23,060
respect to the priority at --

3128
01:56:23,060 --> 01:56:27,060
avenue, 25 Prince Albert Avenue,

3129
01:56:27,060 --> 01:56:29,060
1:17 the app Avenue, and 12

3130
01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:31,060
hillside avenue. These are

3131
01:56:31,060 --> 01:56:33,060
demolitions and who

3132
01:56:33,060 --> 01:56:34,060
constructions for addresses.

3133
01:56:34,060 --> 01:56:36,060
>> Do I have a mover?

3134
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:39,060
>> Eric Stork, district 7.

3135
01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:42,060
>> And seconder?

3136
01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:43,060
>> Carrie Thorstad-Cullen,

3137
01:56:43,060 --> 01:56:45,060
district 3.

3138
01:56:45,060 --> 01:56:46,060
>> All in favour?

3139
01:56:46,060 --> 01:56:48,060
>> The next items you have

3140
01:56:48,060 --> 01:56:51,060
recommendation to refuse from --

3141
01:56:51,060 --> 01:56:52,060
18.3 Considérer les plans

3142
01:56:52,060 --> 01:56:53,060
d’implantation et d’intégration

3143
01:56:53,060 --> 01:56:54,060
architecturale relatifs à la

3144
01:56:54,060 --> 01:56:55,060
propriété sise au 133, avenue de

3145
01:56:55,060 --> 01:56:59,060
Windward Crescent. Dieppe Dieppe

3146
01:57:00,020 --> 01:57:01,020
pour des travaux

3147
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:06,020
d'agrandissement.

3148
01:57:08,020 --> 01:57:11,020
With respect to the par property

3149
01:57:11,020 --> 01:57:13,020
at 1:33 sunnyside Avenue. For

3150
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:14,020
the motion and a new

3151
01:57:14,020 --> 01:57:15,020
construction.

3152
01:57:15,020 --> 01:57:18,020
>> To have a mover?

3153
01:57:18,020 --> 01:57:23,020
>> Cynthia Homan, I refuse to I

3154
01:57:23,020 --> 01:57:27,020
propose to refuse 18.3 and 18.4.

3155
01:57:27,020 --> 01:57:30,020
>> A seconder?

3156
01:57:30,020 --> 01:57:31,020
>> --

3157
01:57:31,020 --> 01:57:32,020
>> All in 19.1 Octroyer un

3158
01:57:32,020 --> 01:57:33,020
contrat pour la fourniture et la

3159
01:57:33,020 --> 01:57:34,020
favour?

3160
01:57:34,020 --> 01:57:35,020
>> Livraison de livres à

3161
01:57:35,020 --> 01:57:36,020
diverses librairies pour la

3162
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:37,020
période du 1 janvier au 31

3163
01:57:37,020 --> 01:57:39,020
décembre 2023 pour un montant

3164
01:57:39,020 --> 01:57:44,020
total de 295 000 $, taxes

3165
01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:47,020
incluses. afin de répondre aux

3166
01:57:47,020 --> 01:57:49,020
besoins de cette clientèle, la

3167
01:57:49,020 --> 01:57:50,020
bibliothèque achètera en 2023

3168
01:57:50,020 --> 01:57:52,020
des livres en français et en

3169
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:53,020
anglais pour les adultes et pour

3170
01:57:53,020 --> 01:57:56,020
les enfants auprès de librairies

3171
01:57:56,020 --> 01:57:58,020
agréées situé dans la région de

3172
01:57:58,020 --> 01:57:59,020
Montréal tel que prescrit à

3173
01:57:59,020 --> 01:58:01,080
l'article 3 de la Loi sur le

3174
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:02,080
développement des entreprises

3175
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:03,080
québécoises dans le domaine du

3176
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:08,080
livre. 19.2, approve a donation

3177
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,080
to the Lester B Pearson school

3178
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:12,080
board of exercise equipment

3179
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:15,080
belonging to the city. In the

3180
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:18,080
context of frequent use of the

3181
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,080
all of her carts for centre --

3182
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,080
>> Gentleman, excuse, me sorry,

3183
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:29,080
Madame Thibault, gentlemen?

3184
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:31,080
>> Four of the centres weight

3185
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,080
machine have reached the end of

3186
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,080
their useful life. In order to

3187
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,080
give them a second life in a

3188
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,080
less frequent use environment,

3189
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,080
it is proposed that the

3190
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,080
equipment be donated to a local

3191
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,080
school boards that the equipment

3192
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,080
can continue to be used.

3193
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:54,080
>> So for 19.1 and 19.2 to have

3194
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,080
a mover?

3195
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,080
>> Brent Cowan. A seconder?

3196
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,080
>> Seconded.

3197
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:04,040
>> All in favour?

3198
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,040
>>

3199
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:06,040
- Levée de la séance.

3200
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:07,040
Foreclosure, do I have a mover?

3201
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:11,040
>> I move to approve closing,

3202
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:14,040
Tara Stainforth, I district 4.

3203
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:15,040
Brent, Cowan district 8.

3204
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:16,040
>>

3205
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,040
- All in bonsoir, tout le monde

3206
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,040
favour!

3207
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:20,040
[Sous-titrage en direct: VITAC

3208
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:21,040
Canada]

3209
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:24,040
?