1 00:00:38,738 --> 00:00:41,441 - C'est une chambre pleine! It's 2 00:00:41,441 --> 00:00:43,343 nice to see everybody here. 3 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:44,344 Merci, merci tout le! Monde à la 4 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:47,347 séance du conseil du cette 5 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,382 février dernier, nous avons 6 00:00:49,382 --> 00:00:51,384 rendu un hommage à monsieur 7 00:00:51,384 --> 00:00:53,386 Gregory bien lobby, très 8 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:55,355 impliquée... impliqué, il est 9 00:00:55,355 --> 00:00:57,357 décédé le 16 janvier. 10 00:00:57,357 --> 00:00:59,325 Malheureusement, une erreur 11 00:00:59,325 --> 00:01:02,000 s'est glissée dans le texte 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 concernant sa ville de 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 résidence. Il a été mentionné 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 qu'il était un résidant de 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Dorval alors que monsieur 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Bielby était un grand bénévole, 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 mais également un résident de la 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Ville de Pointe-Claire. Au nom 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 de la ville, je tiens à 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 présenter des excuses à sa 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 famille et ses amis pour cette 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 erreur et leur souhaiter à 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 nouveau toutes mes sympathies 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 At the very seventh council 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 meeting the pay tribute to Mr. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Gregory -- and passed away on 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 January 16th. Unfortunately, an 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 error was made in the text 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 regarding his city's residents. 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 It was mentioned he was a 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 resident of Dorval, whereas he 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 was a great volunteer and, in 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 fact, a resident of the city of 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Pointe-Claire. On behalf of the 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 city I would like to apologize 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 to his family and friends for 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 this error and offer them, 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 again, our deepest condolences. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 La rue Columbus... toujours à la 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 séance du conseil du 7 février 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 dernier, j'ai mentionné que nous 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,000 avions eu une demande en 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 novembre 2022 pour modifier le 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 nom de la rue Columbus à 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Pointe-Claire, et que selon un 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 document que nous avions en 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 même, le nom de la rue était à 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 la mémoire de Christophe Colomb. 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Aujourd'hui, je dois rectifier, 50 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 encore une fois, ces propos: 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 l'équipe des archives a 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 poursuivi ses recherches et nous 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,000 ont appris que dans l'ensemble 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 des publications officielles 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 incluant la correspondance entre 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,000 la Ville de Pointe-Claire et la 57 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Commission de type autonomie du 58 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Québec, il n'y a aucune 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 toponymie, pardon, il n'y a 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,000 aucune information permettant 61 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 d'établir un lien entre l'avenue 62 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Columbus et la mémoire de 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Christophe-Colomb. 64 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Still, at the council meeting of 65 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 February 7th, I mentioned we had 66 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 had a request in November, 2022, 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000 to change the name of Columbus 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Street in Pointe-Claire, and 69 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,000 that according to a document we 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 had in hand, the name of the 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 street was in memory of 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Christopher Columbus. Today, I 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 must correct this statement. The 74 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 archives team has continued its 75 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000 research and informs us that, in 76 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 all the official correspondence 77 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,000 -- and the commission de 78 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 toponymie de Québec -- memory of 79 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Christopher Columbus. 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 - La Ville de Pointe-Claire 81 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 s'apprête à signer une entente 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 de collaboration avec 83 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,000 l'organisme 84 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 SportAid. SportAid est un 85 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 organisme sans but lucratif 86 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 indépendant créé en 2014 par une 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 équipe de trois personnes 88 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 interpellées par le phénomène de 89 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,000 la violence dans les sports. 90 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 L'organisme vise à offrir des 91 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 services d'accompagnement, 92 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 d'écoute et d'orientation aux 93 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 jeunes le sportive, mais 94 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 également, aux divers acteurs 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 non sportif québécois, par, 96 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 entraîneur, aux organisations 97 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 sportives officielles et 98 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 bénévoles au témoin de violence 99 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 à l'égard des jeunes sportifs. 100 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Cette entente permettra à la 101 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Ville et aux clubs sportifs 102 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 paramunicipaux qui sont le club 103 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 aquatique et le club de 104 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,000 canoë-kayak d'obtenir des 105 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 services conseils personnalisés 106 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 et de se faire accompagner dans 107 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 le développement et l'adaptation 108 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 des politiques et procédures en 109 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 matière de sécurité dans le 110 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 sport. Pointe-Claire la première 111 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 ville à signer une entente avec 112 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 SportAid et se positionne en 113 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 tant que chef de file et 114 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 pionnier pour l'engagement de 115 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 leur ville qui vise à obtenir un 116 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 milieu sportif, de loisirs 117 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 sains, harmonieux et inclusif. 118 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Je tiens à remercier notre 119 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 dynamique équipe de sport et 120 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 loisirs et son directeur, 121 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 monsieur Gilles Girouard. Ce 122 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 partenariat démontre notre 123 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 proactivité et notre souci de 124 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 qualité et de services offerts à 125 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 notre communauté. 126 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 City of Pointe-Claire its back 127 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 to Santa Clara ration with 128 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 agreement with Sport'Aide. 129 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Sport'Aide it's an independent 130 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 nonprofit organization created 131 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 in 2014 by team of three people 132 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 concerned by the phenomenon of 133 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 violence in sports. The 134 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 organization aims to offer 135 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 support and guidance services to 136 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 young athletes as well as to the 137 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 various actors in the Québec 138 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 sports world -- parents, 139 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 coaches, sports organizations, 140 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 officials and volunteers, who 141 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 may have witnessed violence 142 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 against young athletes. This 143 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 agreement will allow the city 144 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 and the power municipal sports 145 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 clubs -- the aquatic club and 146 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 canoe kayak club -- to obtain 147 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 personalized consulting services 148 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 and to be assisted in the 149 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 development and adaptation of 150 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 sports safety policies and 151 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 procedures. Pointe-Claire it's 152 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 the first city to sign an 153 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,000 agreement with Sport'Aide, 154 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 positioning it as a leader and 155 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 further demonstrating our city's 156 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 commitment to maintaining a 157 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 healthy, safe, harmonious, and 158 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 inclusive sports and recreation 159 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 environment. I would like to 160 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 thank our dynamic sports and 161 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 recreation team and it's 162 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 director. This partnership 163 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 demonstrates our partnership and 164 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 concern for the quality of 165 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 services offered to our 166 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 community. Elections -- 167 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Comme Excuse me -- 168 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Vous le savez, déjà nous aurons 169 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 des élections partielles le 23 170 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 avril prochain pour le district 171 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 deux afin d'élire une 172 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 remplaçante ou un remplaçant 173 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 pour combler le poste laissé 174 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 vacant depuis le départ de la 175 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 conseillère, madame Erin 176 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Tedford. Depuis vendredi le dix, 177 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 mars toutes les informations 178 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 sont disponibles sur notre site 179 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Internet, les dates 180 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 d'éligibilité débatteurs, 181 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,000 l'endroit du vote, les 182 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 candidats, etc.. N'hésitez pas à 183 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 consulter le site si vous avez 184 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 des questions. 185 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 As you already know, we will 186 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 have a by-election on April 23rd 187 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 for district 20 11, -- left by 188 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 the replacement of -- Erin 189 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Tedford. -- it's available on 190 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 our website. Dates, eligibility 191 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 of voters, voting location, 192 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 candidates, it's set to. Do not 193 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 hesitate to consult the site if 194 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 you have any questions. 195 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,000 >> Adoption of the 196 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 - Agenda, with changes. 197 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Adoption de l'ordre du jour avec 198 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,000 changement, le retrait des 199 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 points The withdrawal of 6.2 et 200 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 15.4. 6.2 and 15.4. 201 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 >> Do I have a mover? 202 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, 203 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 district three. 204 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 >> -- district to. 205 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 >> All in favour? Okay. 206 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,000 2.1 Proclamer le 17 mai 2023 207 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 comme étant la journée 208 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 internationale contre 209 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 l'homophobie et la transphobie. 210 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,000 The claim -- international day 211 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 against homophobia and 212 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 transphobia. 213 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 3.1 Approuver le procès verbal 214 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 de la séance ordinaire du 7 215 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,000 février 2023. 216 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,000 3.2, violin approve the minutes 217 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 of the traffic committee meeting 218 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 of January 24th, 2023. 219 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 >> Do I have a mover? 220 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, 221 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 district three. 222 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 >> And a seconder? 223 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 >> -- district, too. 224 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 >> Question period? 225 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Tout le monde comprend les 226 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 règles? We have 227 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 A 90 minute limit. And 228 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Pointe-Claire citizens first. 229 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 >> We have a list -- 230 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 >> Oh, yes -- 231 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 >> Do you want to start with the 232 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 representative of school? 233 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 >> 234 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 -- St. Thomas. 235 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,000 >> Good evening, I'm Mary Joseph 236 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Coutu, principle of -- extremely 237 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 proud of, along with their 238 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:24,000 teacher 239 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Doiyonne -- for safety and 240 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 security during our drop off in 241 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 the morning -- it's been pretty 242 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 hectic and there's a lot of 243 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 traffic. And they took the 244 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 initiative to start looking into 245 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 this and have been working on 246 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 this project. And before I pass 247 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 it along to them I have to thank 248 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 the city of Pointe-Claire, 249 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Pointe-Claire security, Mr. 250 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Tanguay, and Mr. reshod, who, 251 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 when we started meeting, they 252 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 took the time to meet with me, 253 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 and had been present at the 254 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 school to really help us and 255 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,000 support us. So, I can't thank 256 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 them enough. So thank you. I 257 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 have Yves with me, Samantha, 258 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Gabriel, and -- Lawrence. They 259 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 are going to speak to a bit 260 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,000 about our project. 261 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,000 >> Dear Pointe-Claire City 262 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Councillors -- the Pointe-Claire 263 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 City councillors and Mr. Mayor. 264 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Thank you for having us here 265 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 this evening. The reason we 266 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 wanted to do this project is 267 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 because we found that there was 268 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 a lot of traffic around the 269 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 school. And it wasn't always 270 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,000 safe for staff and students. We 271 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 felt it was very important to 272 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,000 try to find ways to improve the 273 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,000 safety around our school. 274 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,000 >> The seven classes of 275 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 secondary to -- working on this 276 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 for the last few months. In 277 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 groups of two, we had to come up 278 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 with some solutions to help fix 279 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 these problems. We had students 280 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 stand outside in the morning to 281 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 monitor and record how many 282 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 roles were being broken. For 283 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 example, jaywalking, or not 284 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 stopping in the right areas was 285 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 one of the most dangerous ones 286 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 and we had to prioritize the 287 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 biggest problems. 288 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 >> Some of the ideas that we 289 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 came up with are an extra cross 290 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 walk, flashing crosswalk button, 291 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 installation of a sidewalk on 292 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 the west side of broad view, 293 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 extra traffic signs, adding a 294 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 crossing guard, just to name a 295 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 few. The document that will be 296 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,000 submitted lists all of our 297 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 ideas. 298 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 >> We really learned a lot 299 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 working on this project, since 300 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 it affects the entire school 301 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 population. And it allowed us to 302 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 participate directly in this 303 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 process to make a difference at 304 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 our school. Again, we thank you 305 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 for your time and consideration 306 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 this evening and hope that you 307 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 will think about some of our 308 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 ideas to make it safer around 309 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 St. Thomas High School. Merci 310 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 [Applause] 311 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Beaucoup 312 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 >>! 313 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,000 (applaudissements) 314 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Bravo! 315 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Thanks very much. Yeah, of 316 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 course, absolutely. 317 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 >> I'm Councillor Kelly 318 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Thorstad-Cullen, and on behalf 319 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,000 of Councillor Homan, I just want 320 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,000 to say a huge thank you. It is a 321 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 wonderful initiative. We did 322 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 hear some concerns from our 323 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000 residents and we are going to 324 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 direct them for the link for 325 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 this evening to see all of your 326 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 hard work. We greatly appreciate 327 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 it. Because this was an amazing 328 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,000 collaboration and you have taken 329 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 a great and it should eventually 330 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 fantastic leadership. So, thank 331 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 you. Thank you very much. 332 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 [Applause] 333 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,000 >> So, do we move to bury 334 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Christiansen? Pointe-Claire 335 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 citizens association? 336 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,000 >> Mr. Paul Atkinson was first. 337 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,000 >> Yeah. 338 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 >> Oh, 339 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 - O.K., O.K., okay. Sorry about 340 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 that. C'était pour le... 341 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 I'm sorry, Mister Mayor, we -- 342 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,000 proceed with the conversation 343 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 presentation by Barry Christian 344 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 -- 345 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 >> -- 346 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,000 - Non, il n'y a rien là... wow, 347 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 there goes half la moitié de the 348 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,000 room. 349 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 La Chambre... 350 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 (rires) 351 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 >> What an effect on the room, 352 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 right? Good to go? 353 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 >> Yep. 354 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 >> The Pointe-Claire citizens 355 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Association would like to 356 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 recognize the great work of 357 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 public works this year with snow 358 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 removal. We put together thank 359 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 you card that we would like to 360 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 present on the behalf of the 361 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 members. This year was 362 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 extraordinary. The snow drops 363 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 were falling, the trucks were 364 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,000 picking it up before it hit the 365 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000 ground. It's just an awesome job 366 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 this year. We are really proud 367 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 and very happy to be living in 368 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Pointe-Claire and with the great 369 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 team that -- behalf. Thank you 370 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 very much. 371 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 [Applause] 372 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 >> So, all credit goes to Erik 373 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,000 and Madame Russia low -- they 374 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 are the magic workers on this 375 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 project. 376 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 So, Paul, I think we are ready 377 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 for you. Apologies for not 378 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 getting to last meeting. We will 379 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 make sure it happens this time 380 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 around. 381 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 >> Can you hear me okay? 382 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 >> Yap. 383 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 >> Okay. Good evening -- spoke 384 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 to Councillor Tara Stainforth -- 385 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 condos. Instead of being 386 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,000 installed a couple of stories 387 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 high and shining down onto the 388 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 parking lot, these were 389 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 installed low to the ground. In 390 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,000 trying to cross the parking lot 391 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,000 and into the houses on calls 392 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 them at night -- these lights 393 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 are incredibly bright to the 394 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 point where the Black help lines 395 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 and curtains that I installed 396 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 are basically insufficient. The 397 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 light comes into the sides and 398 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000 basically illuminates my 399 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,000 bedroom. It also shines in the 400 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 bathroom in the back of my 401 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 house, lighting up the top 402 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,000 floor. I'm someone who has small 403 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 children. And all of us are 404 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,000 being affected by poor quality 405 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 of sleep because of this 406 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,000 lighting situation. We also have 407 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 seniors on our street who had 408 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 the same issue. They are not 409 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 getting the sleep they need as 410 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 well. According to the city's 411 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000 bylaw, and I quote, the 412 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 intensity of a brightness of 413 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 parking lot lighting shell at no 414 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 time create a nuisance for the 415 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 neighbouring properties. This is 416 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 bylaw -- chapter seven, 7.5. 417 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 We've spoken to Public Security. 418 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,000 But they feel there is nothing 419 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 to be done for the following 420 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 reasons. The first is that the 421 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 distance of the light fixture 422 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 from our house is. But the bylaw 423 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 makes no mission mention of 424 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 distance. And only mentioned the 425 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,000 intensity or brightness, which 426 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 is the problem. And second, 427 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 public security was told by the 428 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000 condo board that they reduce the 429 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 brightness of the light. However 430 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,000 the residents of Austin have not 431 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,020 seen a difference. But public 432 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:02,020 security believes that, because 433 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:06,020 they were told that by the condo 434 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:07,020 board that they made an effort 435 00:17:07,020 --> 00:17:10,020 -- they feel that they acted in 436 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:11,020 good faith -- and apparently 437 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:13,020 that's enough to close the case. 438 00:17:15,020 --> 00:17:17,020 But if reality, nothing has been 439 00:17:17,020 --> 00:17:22,020 done to help us. Any effort to 440 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:24,020 resolve this has been an abject 441 00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:28,020 failure. So, as an Austin 442 00:17:28,020 --> 00:17:31,020 resident this is just the latest 443 00:17:31,020 --> 00:17:32,020 incident asking the City for 444 00:17:32,020 --> 00:17:35,020 assistance and being -- so, when 445 00:17:35,020 --> 00:17:37,020 the Sotramont project began, we 446 00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:39,020 assured our privacy would not be 447 00:17:39,020 --> 00:17:42,020 affected. Our privacy is now 448 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:45,020 nonexistent. -- proper foliage 449 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:46,020 between Sotramont properties and 450 00:17:46,020 --> 00:17:48,020 our homes. And now with the 451 00:17:48,020 --> 00:17:49,020 installation of the one west 452 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:50,020 condos and the people who can 453 00:17:50,020 --> 00:17:52,020 stare at directly into our 454 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:53,020 bedroom windows -- we have a 455 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:55,020 ditch that is not only being 456 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:56,020 drowned from mosquitoes, by that 457 00:17:56,020 --> 00:17:58,020 flooded last, rain causing 458 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:00,080 significant damage to your 459 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,080 residents home. We asked for 460 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,080 study to be done to ensure this 461 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,080 wouldn't happen again. But the 462 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,080 city denied that. And because -- 463 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,080 last week -- stated that there's 464 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,080 an increased chance of flooding 465 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,080 this spring due to the amount of 466 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,080 snow that's on the ground. As 467 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 you can, legends causing anxiety 468 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,080 for residents, which is -- 469 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,080 animosity towards the city. So, 470 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,080 now we have this lighting 471 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,080 situation. But really, that's 472 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,080 just the latest problem. So, my 473 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,080 first question tonight is, why 474 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,080 won't the City respect its own 475 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,080 bylaw in regards to the light 476 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,080 that is shining directly into 477 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,080 our houses? 478 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,080 >> Well, this is all news to me, 479 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Mister Atkinson, and as you 480 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 know, I feel for the citizens of 481 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Austin big-time. And that can be 482 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,080 easily looked into. Can you give 483 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,080 photographs or a filament or 484 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,080 show the effect of the lighting? 485 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,080 So that people don't have to go 486 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,080 tonight? Can you give us 487 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,080 evidence or show visually? 488 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:57,080 >> -- 489 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,040 >> Okay. 490 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,040 >> As you see, our -- at 491 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,040 different times -- 492 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,040 >> That's what I -- 493 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,040 >> -- appear less bright. 494 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,040 >> Okay. So, when it's at its 495 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,040 worst, can you take a picture? 496 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,040 So that we can -- 497 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,040 >> It's basically like somebody 498 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,040 parking their car in front of my 499 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,040 house and turning their rights 500 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,040 on and turning shining them into 501 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,040 my house. 502 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,040 >> Well, lightning is something 503 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,040 that can be solved. -- I've 504 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,040 always felt for you guys. I feel 505 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,040 it is something that we should 506 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,040 be able to look into and it's an 507 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,040 easier solution of a lot of the 508 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,040 impediments that you guys are up 509 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,040 against. I don't see any reason 510 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,040 why we can't look into it and 511 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,040 tried and better it. I see no 512 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,040 reason for that. But 513 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,040 >> We have tried. Just for the 514 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,040 record, we have tried, we have 515 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,040 spoken to Councillor Stainforth. 516 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,040 I spoke to Public Security. But 517 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,040 it's like nothing is getting 518 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,040 resolved and we are still stuck 519 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,040 in this same situation. 520 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,040 >> Okay. 521 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,040 >> May I speak? 522 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,000 >> Yes. 523 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 >> We've been in touch with the 524 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 condo association. And they had 525 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 an electrician come in and make 526 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 alterations to the lights. 527 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Unfortunately, as is Mr. Tongaue 528 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 explained -- essentially told us 529 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 they will bring us to court. And 530 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 because the distance doesn't 531 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,000 fall within immediate neighbours 532 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000 and all of the immediate 533 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 neighbours are happy with the 534 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 lighting situation as is, so we 535 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 have tried to negotiate with 536 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 them in order to try and find a 537 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 solution for everybody rather 538 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 than play hardball and issue 539 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 tickets. We have been working 540 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,000 with them to reduce the impact 541 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 of the lighting on those 542 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,000 neighbours on -- and with hope 543 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 that that would help at the 544 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000 situation. 545 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 >> It hasn't. And by your 546 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 reasoning, I could set up lights 547 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 on top of my house and shined 548 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,060 them at the condo building at a 549 00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:02,060 vacant -- and just say, I'm too 550 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:03,060 far away, you can't do anything 551 00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:04,060 about it. And I don't think 552 00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:08,060 that's what we should be here 553 00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:10,060 for -- here for. 554 00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:11,060 >> No, which is why we've been 555 00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:12,060 in communication with him on 556 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:13,060 several occasions and we've been 557 00:21:13,060 --> 00:21:14,060 sending our inspectors by to 558 00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:17,060 check the lighting. 559 00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:19,060 That's where the situation is at 560 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:22,060 this point in time. If the mayor 561 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:24,060 has better ideas to collaborate 562 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:28,060 with the inspector, with 563 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:30,060 inspector Tongaue, then for sure 564 00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:33,060 we are open to doing whatever we 565 00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:35,060 can to resolve the issue. That 566 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:37,060 is our goal. I saw the lights. I 567 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:38,060 have been on Austin. So I know 568 00:21:38,060 --> 00:21:40,060 that they are quite bright. Our 569 00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:43,060 goal has been to resolve -- 570 00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:45,060 >> I have offered, anyone, if 571 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:46,060 they want to come to my house 572 00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:49,060 and I vacancy with the situation 573 00:21:49,060 --> 00:21:50,060 looks at night. 574 00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:52,060 >> I was just going to suggest 575 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,060 that. I will do that. I will do 576 00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:57,060 that, Mr. Atkinson. I will come 577 00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:59,060 by and look. I also don't think 578 00:21:59,060 --> 00:22:00,020 that litigation should prevent 579 00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:01,020 someone from doing the right 580 00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:02,020 thing. -- I will come 581 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:04,020 personally. 582 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:05,020 >> Thanks. 583 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:07,020 >> So, my second question 584 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:08,020 tonight. For the past couple of 585 00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:10,020 months, councillors have been -- 586 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:13,020 for the Fairview product to move 587 00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:14,020 forward. But again, they have 588 00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:17,020 not done anything to fix the 589 00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:19,020 problems that have created for 590 00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:21,020 residents on Austin, given that 591 00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:24,020 the project done by Sotramont 592 00:22:24,020 --> 00:22:26,020 and one west -- so, this miss, 593 00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:27,020 ironically started with the 594 00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:28,020 public consultation between 595 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:30,020 developers, the city and Austin 596 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:33,020 residents. So, in 2019, the City 597 00:22:33,020 --> 00:22:34,020 claimed to be understanding of 598 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,020 our concerns. So, they set up a 599 00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:38,020 consultation. Because they said 600 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:40,020 they wanted the integration of 601 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:42,020 the Sotramont project to 602 00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:43,020 basically accommodate all 603 00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:45,020 parties. And when we showed up 604 00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:47,020 for the meeting, city officials 605 00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:48,020 told us that they weren't 606 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:49,020 getting involved. They basically 607 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:51,020 said, you can plead your case to 608 00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:52,020 the developer and see what 609 00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:54,020 happens. And what happened was, 610 00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:56,020 the developer, essentially, 611 00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:57,020 ignored our concerns. And the 612 00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:00,080 City turned their backs on us. 613 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,080 We asked for contingency plans 614 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080 in case things went awry with 615 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080 the project. And the city said 616 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,080 they'd prefer to wait and see 617 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,080 what happened. So, when things 618 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,080 went wrong, instead of trying to 619 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,080 remedy the issues, they ignored 620 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,080 us and eventually just started 621 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 lay bling us as complainers. So, 622 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,080 given our experience, we feel 623 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,080 that there is no reason to 624 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,080 believe that the current public 625 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,080 consultations won't roll out the 626 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,080 same way. The fact that you 627 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,080 chose a room before you knew how 628 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,080 many people plan to attend and 629 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,080 the fact that discussing Mu2 is 630 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,080 off the table is a clear 631 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,080 indication that you are 632 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080 intending to use the same tactic 633 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080 that was used on us in 2019. 634 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,080 When people point the finger at 635 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 you later on, you will say, we 636 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080 held a meeting, we did a 637 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,080 consultation. And the 638 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080 expression, if only once, shame 639 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,080 on me -- that's where I am at 640 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,080 right now. It all feels like a 641 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,080 sham. So, I don't classify 642 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,080 myself as pro or anti 643 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,080 development. But if the city is 644 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080 unable to fix the situation that 645 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,040 we face on Austin, you have no 646 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,040 business even considering a 647 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040 project the size of Cadillac 648 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Fairview. Because when issues 649 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040 that affect residents arrive as, 650 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,040 you simply don't have the 651 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040 capacity, competency or 652 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040 willingness to resolve them. And 653 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 if you feel that I'm incorrect, 654 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040 prove me wrong and fix the 655 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,040 issues affecting Austin 656 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040 residents. 657 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,040 -- quality of life the same way 658 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,040 it was prior to the installation 659 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,040 of the Sotramont and one west 660 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,040 projects. Both the Mayor and 661 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Councillor Stainforth who 662 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040 campaigned on a street during 663 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,040 the election and said something 664 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,040 had to be done about the 665 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,040 situation. So a year and a half 666 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,040 later all we are hearing is, 667 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,040 it's complicated, we are in a 668 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,040 state of transition, because 669 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Robert Weemaes left, you tell us 670 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040 that there's ongoing 671 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,040 negotiations between Sotramont 672 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,040 and the city, but no one is 673 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,040 providing us any clarity about 674 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040 what's going on. These 675 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040 negotiations are going to impact 676 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040 the people who live adjacent to 677 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040 this projects. The latest -- one 678 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040 of the latest problems on the 679 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,000 list is the ditch, which you 680 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 can't talk about, because you 681 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000 are being sued. It is municipal 682 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 inertia at its worst. It is all 683 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,000 talk and no action. So, my 684 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 second question tonight, is, 685 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 what's the city's plan to 686 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000 resolve the issues that the 687 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 residents on Austin are facing, 688 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 given the construction of the 689 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Greenwich and 1 West projects? 690 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000 -- adjacent to them. 691 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 >> It's a tough question for me. 692 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Because I understand where you 693 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000 are coming from, 100%. Had I had 694 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 my druthers -- I'm not a big 695 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 fan, as you know, of that 696 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 project, and the consequences of 697 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 it. And I thank you for bringing 698 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 them up and making them apparent 699 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000 to everybody else in 700 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Pointe-Claire who does not 701 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000 really realize what happened in 702 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Austin as a result of that 703 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 project. There is litigation 704 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000 involved, so I can't speak 705 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 specifically to what we are 706 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000 going to do. I can tell you 707 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,060 personally that I really take 708 00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:06,060 seriously your comments on 709 00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:08,060 consultation. And I agree with 710 00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:11,060 you on that. And picking the 711 00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:13,060 room and the size -- there are 712 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:14,060 people that aren't getting into 713 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:16,060 it and haven't been allowed to 714 00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:17,060 participate because we don't 715 00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:18,060 have enough accommodation. That 716 00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:19,060 shouldn't be happening. We 717 00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:20,060 should let everybody -- my 718 00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:22,060 feeling is we should let 719 00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:23,060 everybody talk and let everybody 720 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:25,060 speak. That would be my hope. 721 00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:27,060 And to make it a fair and 722 00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:28,060 effective process, that's the 723 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:30,060 whole point of this exercise. 724 00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:34,060 And if it isn't, I hope that the 725 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,060 citizens will speak up about if 726 00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:38,060 the process is not just, if it 727 00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:40,060 is feared in a certain way and 728 00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:41,060 harnessed and marshalled or 729 00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:43,060 coerced, I would hope the 730 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:45,060 citizens would give us feedback 731 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:46,060 to suggest that that is the 732 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:47,060 case. 733 00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:48,060 >> I mean, on social media, 734 00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:49,060 people have already started 735 00:26:49,060 --> 00:26:50,060 saying that it feels like a bait 736 00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:53,060 and switch. 737 00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:55,060 >> Well, we have to let it 738 00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:58,060 happen first. We can't -- you 739 00:26:58,060 --> 00:27:00,020 know, we can't claim it's 740 00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:01,020 something before it's happened. 741 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:03,020 But I understand your concerns. 742 00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:06,020 I understand what happened in 743 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:07,020 that project. And that project 744 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:09,020 should be held as a beacon of 745 00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,020 light to everybody with 746 00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:13,020 development going forward. And I 747 00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:14,020 feel that Pointe-Claire -- not 748 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:16,020 enough of Pointe-Claire truly 749 00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:17,020 understands the consequences of 750 00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:18,020 that development. I agree with 751 00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:20,020 you, 100%, on that. 752 00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,020 >> But again, why can't we do 753 00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:23,020 something to fix this situation 754 00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:24,020 before moving forward? We are 755 00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:25,020 always looking to the next 756 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:29,020 project. We are not fixing what 757 00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:31,020 was, essentially, destroyed. 758 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:35,020 >> We will see this spring. We 759 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:36,020 will know the truth is spring as 760 00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:39,020 to how much fixing is required. 761 00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:42,020 Basically, the city was saved by 762 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:43,020 Pointe-Claire volunteer rescue 763 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,020 last spring, who did a superb 764 00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:47,020 job and kept pumps going nonstop 765 00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:50,020 through the entire flooding 766 00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,020 process. And people don't 767 00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,020 realize how dangerous that was 768 00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,020 for the city, since citizens of 769 00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,020 Austin. -- and the equipment 770 00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:59,020 they had and they pumping up 771 00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:02,080 when and they have. And they 772 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,080 saved a disaster and it's not 773 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080 fair to expect them to do that 774 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 over and over and over again. 775 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Nor is it fair to expect that to 776 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080 happen just in the future 777 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,080 citizens and -- future projects. 778 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,080 And yes, we have to be on that, 779 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080 and we have to prevent it. I'm 780 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,080 with you, 100%. 781 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080 >> I agree with you. They did a 782 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,080 fantastic job. But it should not 783 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,080 have gotten to that -- 784 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,080 >> I agree. I will be over to 785 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080 see your lights. And I will 786 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080 hopefully keep a careful eye on 787 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,080 the public consultation process. 788 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,080 And I am listening to all of you 789 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080 and any concerns that anybody 790 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080 expresses, I am your voice, your 791 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,080 mouthpiece on that. Because, 792 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080 like you, I share, 100%, your 793 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,080 concerns for the prices and 794 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,080 whether it is affecting citizen 795 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,080 participation. I really, really 796 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080 like that. That is the goal of 797 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080 the exercise. Thanks. 798 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,040 So, we are at -- Linda Douette 799 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040 -- 800 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,040 >> High. I want to talk about 801 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,040 the mandate letter attached to 802 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,040 the -- about -- about making an 803 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,040 in-camera meetings and leading 804 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040 to some consultations with 805 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,040 Fairview, to get them -- step 806 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040 out of the ongoing planning 807 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,040 program process. 808 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040 And eventually out of the 809 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,040 freeze. And the wording of -- in 810 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,040 the resolution, as it was 811 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040 passed, says it's a mandate 812 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,040 letter that will be attached to 813 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040 it. The mandate letter provided 814 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,040 is the only one that exists -- 815 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040 the city manager. And she is 816 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040 referring to a letter that was 817 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,040 sent from the city manager to 818 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Fairview. But the resolution 819 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040 says, the mandate letter, to the 820 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000 city manager, from Council, that 821 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,000 is to provide guidelines for the 822 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 -- we filed with passage of this 823 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 resolution and the integral to 824 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 this resolution and that the 825 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000 city manager will update Council 826 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000 as the dialogue advances. When 827 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000 asked for this mandate letter, 828 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000 it was no -- one was able to 829 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,000 produce it from the City so, I 830 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 have two questions. One, when 831 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000 will we see the mandate letter? 832 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Because I don't think that the 833 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 resolution is valid without it. 834 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000 And yet, it was acted on. 835 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Because February 3rd, a letter 836 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 was sent to Fairview. With the 837 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000 city manager saying she had a 838 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 mandate, which we haven't seen? 839 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000 And that is nice. By then, my 840 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 question too is, what did 841 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Fairview respond to this letter? 842 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000 It's been more than a month. I'm 843 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 sure you've got some response. 844 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000 What was the response? 845 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,000 >> That one first? It was not a 846 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 positive one. Without getting 847 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,000 into specifics, it was not a 848 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,060 positive one. I am not sure if I 849 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,060 am to speak to it -- I am to 850 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:07,060 speak to it, Madam Thibeault? 851 00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:08,060 >> -- 852 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:11,060 >> Not a positive one. -- the 853 00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:12,060 initiative proposed in the 854 00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:13,060 letter. 855 00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:17,060 >> Okay. Count me not surprised. 856 00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:19,060 So, the mandate letter -- will 857 00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:21,060 never see the light of day 858 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:22,060 because it was never produced 859 00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,060 and doesn't exist? 860 00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:25,060 >> Did you try access to 861 00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:26,060 information? 862 00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:29,060 >> -- the city clerk said, and I 863 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:34,060 quote -- where would be that? 864 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:38,060 Sorry, I lost that piece of 865 00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:41,060 paper. Anyway, the city clerk 866 00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:44,060 said, the mandate letter 867 00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:46,060 provided -- that is, the one 868 00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:47,060 provided from our city manager, 869 00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:49,060 to Fairview, which is not a 870 00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:50,060 mandate letter. It's a letter 871 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,060 saying that she has a mandate. 872 00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:54,060 Is the only one that exists -- 873 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:55,060 in fact, the guidelines from the 874 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:57,060 council to the city manager are 875 00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:58,060 included in the mandate letter 876 00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:01,020 sent to Cadillac Fairview. Well, 877 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,020 that's nice that it's not a 878 00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,020 mandate letter from City Council 879 00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,020 to the city manager. So, what is 880 00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:10,020 the entire mandate? And is it so 881 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,020 going forward? Are there other 882 00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:13,020 attempts to make it happen? 883 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:18,020 >> To make what happen, Ms. 884 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:21,020 Douette? 885 00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:22,020 >> -- 886 00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:23,020 >> Apparently, Cadillac Fairview 887 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:26,020 responded in the negative. From 888 00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:28,020 my perspective, I've never -- 889 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:30,020 I've wanted public consultation 890 00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:32,020 and the citizens to determine 891 00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:35,020 the future, to specify their 892 00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:36,020 version of the City of the 893 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:39,020 future, prior to doing any 894 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:40,020 negotiations with any 895 00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:42,020 developers. I wanted to hear the 896 00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:43,020 citizen voice first. So, that 897 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,020 has always been my preference. 898 00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,020 This might actually help. Who 899 00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:50,020 knows? It might be serendipity. 900 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:51,020 >> Okay. Is this initiative now 901 00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,020 did in the water? 902 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:54,020 >> Nothing is dead in the water. 903 00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:56,020 It's an ongoing process. You 904 00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:57,020 never know what is going to 905 00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:59,020 happen, going forward. 906 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:01,080 >> Okay. So, then -- 907 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,080 >> You are saying that we need 908 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080 to find a letter that mandate 909 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,080 the letter? 910 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,080 >> We need to find the mandate. 911 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080 Without the mandate, the 912 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,080 resolution is not valid. If it's 913 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080 not valid, why did our city 914 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,080 manager act on it? I mean, she 915 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,080 should not have gone forward 916 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,080 without a mandate letter. And as 917 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080 she went forward without a 918 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080 mandate letter, it's kind of 919 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,080 ridiculous. The resolution says 920 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,080 the mandate letter is integral 921 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080 to the resolution. It's an 922 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,080 integral part. It's an integral 923 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,080 part. Where is it? 924 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,080 >> Okay. 925 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,080 >> The whole wording of 926 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,080 everything is a real dogs 927 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,080 breakfast. That's a technical 928 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080 term. 929 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,080 >> The resolution is the mandate 930 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080 from the City Council. 931 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,080 >> Well, that cannot possibly 932 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080 be. It cannot possibly be 933 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,080 because the letter contains 934 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080 facts and suggestions not 935 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080 included in the resolution. It 936 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,080 says other things that the 937 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,080 resolution didn't say. So, 938 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,080 therefore, that's not possible. 939 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,080 The resolution is not the 940 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,080 mandate letter. It's not 941 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040 possible. The two don't contain 942 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,040 the same set of facts. They are 943 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,040 not the same wording. And the 944 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,040 resolution refers to a mandate 945 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,040 letter to be sent from the City 946 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,040 Council to the city manager. A 947 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,040 mandate letter doesn't say, this 948 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,040 resolution is a mandate letter, 949 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,040 is the mandate to the city 950 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040 manager. It talks about a 951 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,040 separate letter, which must 952 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,040 exist -- or, how could the 953 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,040 resolution be dealt with? 954 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,040 It's kind of amateur hour. 955 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,040 >> Well, I wouldn't phrase it 956 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040 that way. But but perhaps 957 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040 there's a letter to be found. 958 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040 And perhaps it can be revisited. 959 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,040 Who knows? But -- 960 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040 >> Well, I would like assurances 961 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,040 either that the Council 962 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,040 withdraws the resolution, or 963 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,040 puts it into a proper form. 964 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,040 >> If I will, Mr. Thomas? 965 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,040 >> Yes, go ahead. 966 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040 >> I just want to make sure we 967 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:59,040 are on the same page with Mrs. 968 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Douette. -- there is no letter 969 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000 from Council to Mrs. -- the 970 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 mandate given by the council was 971 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 in the resolution explaining 972 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 what was the future -- 973 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 >> That's nice. That's nice. 974 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000 >> Ms. Douette -- 975 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 >> -- the reality. And the 976 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000 resolution is perfectly legal. 977 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000 >> Well, the fact is, the 978 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000 resolution refers to a separate 979 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 document. It doesn't say that 980 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000 the resolution is the mandate. 981 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000 It says that there is a mandate 982 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 letter that will be filed and 983 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 that will be from the City 984 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Council to the city manager. 985 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 >> -- 986 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 >> It refers to a separate 987 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 letter. It does not say that the 988 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 resolution is the mandate. 989 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000 >> I -- a bit further with you 990 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 about this topic. 991 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000 >> Thank you, Ms. Douette, your 992 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000 intervention was most 993 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,060 illuminating. 994 00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:03,060 >> Thank you. 995 00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:06,060 >> Susan Weaver? 996 00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:17,060 >> Susan Weaver, Pointe-Claire. 997 00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:19,060 A little more basic question -- 998 00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:21,060 this is a concern to me as a 999 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,060 taxpayer and as a senior citizen 1000 00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:27,060 on a fixed income. In May 2022, 1001 00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:31,060 you allocated $500,000 to the 1002 00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:34,060 reserve for legal fees. How many 1003 00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:36,060 lawsuits have been filed against 1004 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,060 our city? And will this reserve 1005 00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:41,060 cover all the lawsuits and legal 1006 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:42,060 fees? 1007 00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:43,060 >> Good question. Madam 1008 00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,060 Thibault? 1009 00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:48,060 >> I don't have the answer -- 1010 00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,060 but I will provide you with the 1011 00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:52,060 right information, Mrs. Ms. 1012 00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:55,060 Weaver, but I don't have the 1013 00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:56,060 right information right now. 1014 00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:57,060 >> Okay. 1015 00:36:57,060 --> 00:37:00,020 >> I can easily -- the 1016 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:01,020 information, but not now. 1017 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:03,020 >> Yes, I understand. Okay. I 1018 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,020 think it's important, probably 1019 00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:06,020 -- well, for me, and to all 1020 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:08,020 taxpayers, to know these things. 1021 00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:10,020 >> Yeah, of course. 1022 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:11,020 >> Okay. Basic? 1023 00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:13,020 >> The lawyers -- if I could 1024 00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:14,020 intervene -- legal protection is 1025 00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:16,020 there to protect the citizens. 1026 00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,020 So, it's quite a worthwhile 1027 00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,020 investment. It protects the 1028 00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:23,020 interests, financially, and 1029 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,020 otherwise of Pointe-Claire. 1030 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:30,020 >> -- okay. And Mr. Thomas, 1031 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,020 you've made claims, most 1032 00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:36,020 recently, in the media, as to 1033 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:38,020 most and sleep populated -- and 1034 00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,020 vacant apartments or condos. 1035 00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:41,020 When you get your statistics 1036 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:43,020 from? 1037 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,020 >> I never made any such 1038 00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:47,020 comments, Ms. Weaver. Do you 1039 00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:49,020 have them? I never said anything 1040 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,020 like that. 1041 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:54,020 >> You said it on CJAD. 1042 00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:57,020 >> No, I didn't say that on 1043 00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:58,020 CJAD. -- do you have a 1044 00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:03,080 transcript? Because -- I'm just 1045 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,080 wondering. -- 1046 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080 >> I heard it on -- 1047 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,080 >> If you have a quote. Innuendo 1048 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,080 but no actual evidence -- 1049 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,080 >> Nasser el-Dhabi? 1050 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080 >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor and 1051 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,080 City Council. I hope you are 1052 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,080 doing well. I'm always facing 1053 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,080 the problem, really, or causing 1054 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,080 a problem. As you hear everybody 1055 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,080 talking about -- the kids can 1056 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,080 hear about the traffic -- 1057 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,080 school, and everything, all the 1058 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,080 traffic. -- he knows about all 1059 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,080 the traffic, but he ignore all 1060 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,080 of that and -- 1061 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,080 >> Excuse me? That's false. You 1062 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,040 are making an assumption and 1063 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,040 false statements -- I think nor 1064 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040 the traffic? Thank you. 1065 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,040 >> You ignore the traffic and -- 1066 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,040 with Cadillac Fairview. That's 1067 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,040 what I meant. 1068 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,040 >> Perhaps Mr. 1069 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,040 el-Dhabi -- maybe proceed with 1070 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040 the point without making it 1071 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040 personal. 1072 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040 >> I'm not making it personal. 1073 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040 I'm always facing what causing 1074 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,040 the trouble. Trouble for 1075 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Pointe-Claire -- what's 1076 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,040 happened, as you are seeing now, 1077 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,040 the -- Cadillac fair view don't 1078 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,040 -- here anymore. Why? -- City 1079 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,040 Council representing them and -- 1080 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,040 >> You can't -- 1081 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,040 >> Point of order -- 1082 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,040 >> -- Cadillac Fairview. They've 1083 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,040 been voted to represent the -- 1084 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,040 Pointe-Claire 1085 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:01,000 >> Mr. el-Dhabi -- 1086 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 >> -- about what is going on -- 1087 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000 >> Mr. el-Dhabi, if you could 1088 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000 again make a point about -- 1089 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 >> I'm not accusing. I'm saying 1090 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000 the reality. 1091 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,000 >> Mr. el-Dhabi -- you are 1092 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000 making statements that can be 1093 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000 proven and insinuating things 1094 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000 that -- 1095 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 >> Okay, now I'm asking the City 1096 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Council from the previous 1097 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000 administration, do you have any 1098 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000 relationship with Cadillac 1099 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Fairview as you did in business 1100 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,000 or somebody from -- a member of 1101 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000 -- family working for Cadillac 1102 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Fairview? -- or investing in 1103 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000 this company? Because 1104 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Pointe-Claire, we have a lot of 1105 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 trouble. We heard the kids what 1106 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 you say, we heard the lady what 1107 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 she said, we -- owe the project 1108 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,000 but did all the flooding. And 1109 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 you -- continue to just try and 1110 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,060 build more and more. So, I'm 1111 00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:03,060 asking the six city councillor, 1112 00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:05,060 what exactly is the relationship 1113 00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:07,060 but with Cadillac Fairview? 1114 00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:12,060 That's -- my question. -- 1115 00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:17,060 represent all the -- Mr. -- 1116 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:28,060 Colin -- represent -- what 1117 00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:30,060 Fairview? Who can answer that? 1118 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:33,060 >> Point of order -- citizens 1119 00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:34,060 are not supposed to go down the 1120 00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:36,060 list and ask councillors 1121 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:37,060 questions. 1122 00:41:37,060 --> 00:41:38,060 >> I'm asking the mayor to ask 1123 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,060 all of them. 1124 00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:44,060 >> Mr. el-Dhabi -- he can ask if 1125 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:46,060 you have an opinion on 1126 00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:48,060 something? Can he knocked? 1127 00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:49,060 >> -- answer 1128 00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:52,060 >> -- questions are directed to 1129 00:41:52,060 --> 00:41:53,060 the Mayor. 1130 00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:54,060 >> Okay, but he's asking of 1131 00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:56,060 Council. 1132 00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:58,060 >> Just to get to your first 1133 00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:00,020 point, Mr. el-Dhabi -- I think 1134 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:01,020 you are trying to make reference 1135 00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:03,020 to the fact that the -- makes 1136 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:05,020 traffic around the school. That 1137 00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:07,020 would have been a really good 1138 00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:09,020 point to just make like that, 1139 00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:13,020 rather than sitting here or -- 1140 00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:17,020 >> Mr. Mayor, I see the two 1141 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:20,020 minute time. But you are not 1142 00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:22,020 listening. -- too many times 1143 00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:26,020 since last year -- seeing what 1144 00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:27,020 too many times -- sorry, Mr. 1145 00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:32,020 el-Dhabi -- 1146 00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:39,020 -- all the folks at home. -- you 1147 00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:41,020 have the swimming pool. You have 1148 00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:43,020 the high school and the -- so, 1149 00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:46,020 we know of what is going on -- 1150 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,020 the traffic looks like. I see it 1151 00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:51,020 all the time but nobody 1152 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:52,020 listening and project after 1153 00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:55,020 project that's what you care 1154 00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,020 about. I am not -- 1155 00:42:57,020 --> 00:43:01,080 >> That's an interesting point 1156 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080 -- that's a more interesting 1157 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,080 preamble than what you started. 1158 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080 Now, you have a question to 1159 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,080 follow up with that? 1160 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,080 >> I said, what is the 1161 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,080 relationship between the six 1162 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,080 city council from the previous 1163 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,080 administration, when they 1164 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080 calling all of us the problem, 1165 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,080 what's the relationship between 1166 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080 them and Cadillac? 1167 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,080 >> Point of order. Two schools 1168 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,080 being combined at St. Thomas 1169 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,080 does not have anything to do 1170 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080 with development at all. I do 1171 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080 not want to be asked about that. 1172 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,080 >> That's debatable. -- he's 1173 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,080 asking you about traffic in a 1174 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,080 school zone. That's a valid 1175 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,080 concern. 1176 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080 >> You are not -- 1177 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,080 >> You're not going to get an 1178 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,080 answer by -- 1179 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,080 >> -- causing the trouble. 1180 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Honesty, trust, integrity -- and 1181 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,040 that is the second portion is -- 1182 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,040 about the increase the value of 1183 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040 our house 55%. 1184 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,040 They increase the tax, city tax, 1185 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,040 16 and a half percent. Why? 1186 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,040 Because of COVID? 19? Everybody 1187 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040 looking for houses, the houses 1188 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,040 went up. The mortgage was 1.4, 1189 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,040 or 5.5%, maximum 2%. My daughter 1190 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,040 bought a house for 1.5%. And now 1191 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,040 the mortgage is over 6% and the 1192 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,040 House is valued 30% and more and 1193 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,040 keep going down because the 1194 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,040 recession going on in the 1195 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,040 inflation and so the value of 1196 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,000 the house went down, so what is 1197 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000 are you going to do now? 1198 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000 Compensate for taxes we're 1199 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000 praying now 16 and a half 1200 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000 percent? 1201 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000 >> 15.9 I think in 1202 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Pointe-Claire. 1203 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,000 >> I get 16 point. Five 1204 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000 >> But you might -- have 1205 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000 >> The increase the house value 1206 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000 55%. 1207 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000 >> A couple of things. It's not 1208 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000 as --, as you are probably very 1209 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,000 well aware. The interest rates 1210 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000 are the Bank of Canada, so that 1211 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,000 beyond our jurisdiction as well. 1212 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000 The rate of the evaluations of 1213 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000 houses is determined by the 1214 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000 frequency of economic exchange, 1215 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000 buying and selling, in your 1216 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000 area. So if your area has been 1217 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000 active on the real estate market 1218 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,000 it has an impact on the housing 1219 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,000 value. That is a formula used. 1220 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,060 Mr. -- you're here to answer 1221 00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:02,060 that during the next period. 1222 00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:04,060 >> On the website. 1223 00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:05,060 >> Yes, it's on the website. 1224 00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,060 >> But this was last year. Now 1225 00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:09,060 it's down. And keep going down 1226 00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:10,060 because the mortgage -- 1227 00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:11,060 >> That's the Bank of Canada, 1228 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:14,060 sir. The interest rate is not 1229 00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:15,060 controlled by -- 1230 00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,060 >> But the house value is going 1231 00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:20,060 down. It keeps going down now. 1232 00:46:20,060 --> 00:46:23,060 [Inaudible] 1233 00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:25,060 >> He had she has two until 1234 00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:26,060 April 30th to appeal the value 1235 00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:27,060 of her house. 1236 00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:31,060 >> Yeah, guys, this is not a 1237 00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:34,060 discussion at the mic. Did you 1238 00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:37,060 have a question, mister Al 1239 00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:38,060 Dhabi? 1240 00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:39,060 >> Sorry, what I'm saying, when 1241 00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:44,060 we go up we increase the city 1242 00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:48,060 tax. But if it goes down you 1243 00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:50,060 decrease the city tax. That is 1244 00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:51,060 the fairway. 1245 00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:53,060 >> That's not my understanding 1246 00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,060 of how it works. I don't think 1247 00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:57,060 it has ever work that way in the 1248 00:46:57,060 --> 00:47:00,020 history of taxation. But the 1249 00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:02,020 rate is determined by the 1250 00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:03,020 frequency of economic activity 1251 00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:05,020 in your district, and that's how 1252 00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:07,020 the rate is determined. It's the 1253 00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:09,020 Agglo that determines that rate. 1254 00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:11,020 Not us. We have nothing to do 1255 00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:14,020 with. That zero. Same with 1256 00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:15,020 fluoridation. To anticipate the 1257 00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:17,020 next, another question. We do 1258 00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:19,020 not, as a city, have control 1259 00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:20,020 over that. 1260 00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:22,020 >> And we able to do anything 1261 00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:24,020 about this? Who is controlling 1262 00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:26,020 it at least? 1263 00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:28,020 >> I have met with the 1264 00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:29,020 association of suburban mayors 1265 00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:31,020 and we have had serious meetings 1266 00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:32,020 about how to deal with the 1267 00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:34,020 increases that we received from 1268 00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:36,020 the agglomeration council, and 1269 00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:38,020 we are strategizing as we speak. 1270 00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:40,020 It's on my Facebook page. You 1271 00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:41,020 can follow the meetings. We are 1272 00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:44,020 well aware of that. All of the 1273 00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:46,020 cities are aware of that. We are 1274 00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:48,020 trying to work out strategy so 1275 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:52,020 we can have some control over 1276 00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:53,020 tax increases on our 1277 00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:54,020 municipalities. 1278 00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:55,020 >> My comment is -- 1279 00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:57,020 >> But there's a couple 1280 00:47:57,020 --> 00:48:01,080 questions there, Mister Al Dhabi 1281 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,080 so, I think you're almost done. 1282 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080 To have the final question? 1283 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,080 >> Yes. 1284 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,080 >> I had the two but -- 1285 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080 >> Yes I think you've had to. 1286 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,080 >> Every time I come to speak, 1287 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080 the leader of Cadillac Fairview, 1288 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,080 they leave the room. 1289 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,080 >> They're not leaders of 1290 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,080 Cadillac Fairview, Mr. Al Dhabi. 1291 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,080 >> Kelly -- I know. I'm saying. 1292 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,080 Please, thank you very much. Mr. 1293 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080 Al Dhabi you have no evidence or 1294 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080 proof of that. We can't say it 1295 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,080 at the microphone. You literally 1296 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,080 can't. It's simply wrong. You 1297 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,080 can't accuse people of something 1298 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,080 -- I 1299 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,080 >> Prove it to you, Mister 1300 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,080 Mayor. 1301 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,080 >> No, I don't want you to prove 1302 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,080 it, Mister Al Dhabi. We are 1303 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080 done. That's it. We are good. 1304 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080 That's all, thank you. 1305 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,080 >> District won the elect 1306 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,080 somebody really honest and 1307 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,080 trust, not from the previous 1308 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080 administration, somebody fresh 1309 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080 like -- and --. 1310 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,040 >> Is that a question or is that 1311 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,040 a political preference? Okay, 1312 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,040 Mr. Al Dhabi, thank you very 1313 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,040 much for your time, sir. 1314 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,040 >> Thank you, God bless you all. 1315 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,040 And working for the citizens 1316 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,040 that elect you not the 1317 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,040 developer. Thank you. 1318 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,040 >> Lynn Conway? 1319 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040 >> Good evening. The topic was 1320 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,040 about identification so there 1321 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,040 was an article last week about 1322 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,040 serious issues add the -- 1323 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,040 general hospital including six 1324 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,040 patients. I'm assuming everybody 1325 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,040 heard about it. Especially for 1326 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,040 the councillors that did the 1327 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040 resolution, the Cadillac 1328 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,040 Fairview resolution, why did not 1329 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,040 more concerned about our health? 1330 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,040 This is very serious. The 1331 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,040 lakeshore General Hospital is 1332 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,000 understaffed, why are we 1333 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000 bringing in more people here? 1334 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,000 Why are we giving permits to 1335 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000 build thousands of more units? 1336 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Bringing in thousands of more 1337 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,000 people in the city while there 1338 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,000 is a crisis at the hospital? 1339 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,000 >> Is that -- 1340 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,000 >> I know it's a provincial 1341 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000 affair. It's under provincial 1342 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000 jurisdiction, provincial 1343 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000 governments, however, when they 1344 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000 want something enough to do a 1345 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,000 resolution to get what they 1346 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,000 want, why was there no push, the 1347 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000 provincial government for what 1348 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000 we need before we bring in new 1349 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,000 people here and if we can't have 1350 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000 a proper hospital and proper 1351 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000 staff than it's not give permits 1352 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000 to use build more buildings. I 1353 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,000 think it's the antithetical 1354 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000 thing to do. 1355 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000 >> Is that your question? 1356 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,000 >> Yes. Why are we not 1357 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,000 contributing York your 1358 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000 counterpart at the provincial 1359 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000 level to get more staff 1360 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,000 intellectual General Hospital? 1361 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,000 >> It's been a problem for a 1362 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,060 long time, hasn't? It expansion 1363 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:02,060 of the emergency room at 1364 00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:03,060 lakeshore has been on the books 1365 00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:06,060 for almost as long as the jack 1366 00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:08,060 bizarre extension. It doesn't 1367 00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:11,060 seem to be happening and it's a 1368 00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:13,060 definite issue, and we've had 1369 00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:14,060 other people get up to the 1370 00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:15,060 microphone with the same point. 1371 00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:17,060 I think the valid point. And I 1372 00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:19,060 think that bringing through new 1373 00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:22,060 residents into one area without 1374 00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:25,060 expansion on the hospital system 1375 00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:28,060 is a real problem and you can 1376 00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:31,060 talk about expansions elsewhere 1377 00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:34,060 but it's nonetheless a serious 1378 00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,060 concern and one we should take 1379 00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,060 seriously and not to mention in 1380 00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:39,060 restructuring schools and 1381 00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:41,060 recreational facilities and 1382 00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:43,060 other services that new citizens 1383 00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:46,060 bring to a city. And so both 1384 00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:49,060 seriously absolutely's health 1385 00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:51,060 and it will, I think, I can't 1386 00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:54,060 see how that problem is 1387 00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:56,060 avoidable. I think it's a real 1388 00:51:56,060 --> 00:51:57,060 issue and, you raise a good one. 1389 00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:59,060 And in the provision of health 1390 00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:02,020 care, in light of hugely 1391 00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,020 expanding citizenry, is a huge 1392 00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:07,020 issue. And yes, the staffing 1393 00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:08,020 situation and how hospitals are 1394 00:52:08,020 --> 00:52:10,020 running and health in general is 1395 00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:12,020 beyond our control. It's 1396 00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:14,020 provincial and mostly 1397 00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:17,020 jurisdiction. However, we can 1398 00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:19,020 control the densification of the 1399 00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,020 cities around our health care. 1400 00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:23,020 From my perspective, I think 1401 00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:25,020 your point is a valid one. 1402 00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:29,020 >> Okay, so, anybody worried 1403 00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:30,020 about densification, urban 1404 00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:32,020 sprawl, so the building the 1405 00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:34,020 hospital in Danielle void Ray, 1406 00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:36,020 let them build a more unit over 1407 00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:40,020 there. They'll have more access 1408 00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:42,020 to the hospital over there. 1409 00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:45,020 >> You are saying that -- 1410 00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:46,020 >> Instead of bringing more 1411 00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:49,020 people here why don't we bring 1412 00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:51,020 them where the hospital will be 1413 00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:53,020 built? Health care is important 1414 00:52:53,020 --> 00:52:54,020 these days. 1415 00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:55,020 >> So are you saying urban 1416 00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:57,020 sprawl will follow the provision 1417 00:52:57,020 --> 00:52:59,020 of health care? People will move 1418 00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,080 according -- to 1419 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,080 >> Its my suggestion. 1420 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,080 >> Interesting. 1421 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,080 >> Why not? If we can fix it 1422 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:12,080 here, they can go build towers 1423 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,080 Indian. 1424 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,080 >> It might happen, who knows? 1425 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,080 Maya 1426 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080 >> My other question would have 1427 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,080 been about the Cadillac Fairview 1428 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,080 resolution and there was a lot 1429 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,080 of discussion at the February 1430 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080 meeting and I agree with what 1431 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080 Mr. to which was saying earlier. 1432 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,080 So I think the question should 1433 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,080 have been directed more to -- 1434 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,080 because you were the in skin 1435 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,080 instigator of the resolution 1436 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,080 when there was all this talk 1437 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,080 about -- kid else about it? Did 1438 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,080 any Councillors sign a mandate 1439 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,080 letter? Why was there such talk 1440 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,080 about the mandate letter? Can 1441 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,080 you answer that question? 1442 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,080 >> It's on his watch. 1443 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,040 >> Pardon? 1444 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,040 >> You instigated the care the 1445 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,040 Cadillac Fairview resolution. It 1446 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040 talked about a letter. Did you 1447 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,040 draft a letter as well? Didn't 1448 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,040 Councillor signed letter? 1449 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,040 >> The council is not 1450 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,040 responsible for the director for 1451 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,040 the administration of the City, 1452 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,040 direct responsibility for that 1453 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,040 is Mayor, and once you passed 1454 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,040 ask Mayor your questions. 1455 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,040 >> Did a lot of, talked a lot of 1456 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,040 promises, while making promises 1457 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,040 if you can't fulfill them? 1458 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,040 >> Ms. Conway if I could speak 1459 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,040 to the comment that I find 1460 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,040 astonishing. The resolution was 1461 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,040 proposed against my wishes. I 1462 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,040 put my veto on it and I did 1463 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040 everything I could on my watch 1464 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,040 to prevent it, however have not 1465 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040 having power to stop it is 1466 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,040 someone my fault, kind of a 1467 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,040 preposterous proposal. 1468 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,040 Eventually the mayor has no 1469 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,000 vote. So something is proposed 1470 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000 and voted on, the mayor has no 1471 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000 vote, so it's not on his or her 1472 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,000 watch if they're outvoted and a 1473 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000 resolution is raised, which it 1474 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000 was, against my wishes, I did 1475 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,000 not want that resolution yet it 1476 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,000 happened. How, or somehow, am I 1477 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000 responsible for it? I find it 1478 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,000 quite an astonishing proposal. 1479 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,000 You're 1480 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,000 >> Not responsible for the 1481 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000 resolution, Mister Mayor. Once 1482 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000 Council has resolved that it can 1483 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,000 actually happen it's your duty 1484 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000 in your responsibility to effect 1485 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,000 it. That is all. 1486 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000 >> To affect the resolution? No 1487 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000 it isn't. No it isn't. It is 1488 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000 implemented by the 1489 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,000 administration. 1490 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000 >> So you have no responsibility 1491 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,000 -- 1492 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000 >> Councillor Cowan, first of 1493 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000 all, a question period is for 1494 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000 the citizens, as I told you 1495 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,000 before, with your repeated, 1496 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,000 excuse me, she is there to ask a 1497 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000 question and then dealing with 1498 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,000 it. Okay. 1499 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000 >> The question is, in the 1500 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000 resolution there was talk about 1501 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,060 the mandate letter, so the 1502 00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:02,060 councillor that instigated the 1503 00:56:02,060 --> 00:56:03,060 resolution should know, should 1504 00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:06,060 be the one that answers about 1505 00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:07,060 miss Dwight's question that she 1506 00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:10,060 asked earlier. I don't see an 1507 00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:12,060 answer coming, so that's my 1508 00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:13,060 question. 1509 00:56:13,060 --> 00:56:16,060 >> Okay. Thank you. And 1510 00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:18,060 apparently it somehow my 1511 00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:21,060 responsibility even though I 1512 00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:22,060 fundamentally wholeheartedly 1513 00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:24,060 disagree with it. That's quite 1514 00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:27,060 interesting, Councillor Cowan. 1515 00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:30,060 Okay. Sandra Mackay? 1516 00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:46,060 . Okay, Mister --. Good 1517 00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:51,060 >> Evening. I am the leader of a 1518 00:56:52,060 --> 00:56:57,060 climate action group. As part of 1519 00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:01,020 -- one of the things we do was 1520 00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:02,020 outreach to schools and I had 1521 00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:06,020 the privilege to go to three 1522 00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:08,020 grade five classes at 1523 00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:09,020 Pointe-Claire elementary and as 1524 00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:10,020 a result of my desire to see 1525 00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:12,020 this following letter from the 1526 00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,020 grade five teachers that will 1527 00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:15,020 give you Mister Mayor saying 1528 00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:19,020 dear mayor Tim Thomas the, 1529 00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:21,020 students of the -- elementary 1530 00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:22,020 school wanted to give you the 1531 00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:24,020 green hearts as our unit on how 1532 00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:28,020 the world works, and -- Anne of 1533 00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:32,020 -- visitors are class to visit 1534 00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:34,020 actions we could take to 1535 00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:36,020 mitigate climate change. The 1536 00:57:36,020 --> 00:57:39,020 student ask wish to I'd on their 1537 00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:42,020 beliefs and -- particularly the 1538 00:57:42,020 --> 00:57:43,020 Fairview forest. We will hope 1539 00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:44,020 you will look through these 1540 00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:46,020 kinds of consider the messages. 1541 00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:49,020 That's from Miss Leah different 1542 00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:50,020 ski and -- I. What we'd all 1543 00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:53,020 harsh to you, there are so many, 1544 00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:55,020 but many are touching and 1545 00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:57,020 beautiful. When my the students 1546 00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:59,020 and I feel like I'm their voice 1547 00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:04,080 this evening and so some of the 1548 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,080 hearts were point parts were 1549 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,080 addressed madame La Plante. Do 1550 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,080 you Mister Mayor, please protect 1551 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,080 the Fairview forest time in this 1552 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080 concern of all the animals in 1553 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080 the forest., The hawk, in the 1554 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,080 brown snake. The brown snake is 1555 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,080 endangered. I wish you would 1556 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,080 take action and stop Fairview 1557 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080 from destroying the forest. I 1558 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080 wish you could be like -- the 1559 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,080 who stopped the terracotta for 1560 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,080 us from getting destroyed. 1561 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,080 Please protect Fairview forest 1562 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,080 and make it like the terracotta 1563 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,080 park. We unclassifiable two 1564 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,080 would like to save Fairview 1565 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,080 forest please stop door for a 1566 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,080 stationary danger narrative in 1567 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080 the forest and it is such a 1568 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080 beautiful place trees are 1569 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,080 important and they take carbon 1570 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080 out of the air. Save the forest 1571 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,080 so please protect our force 1572 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,080 because we are worried for the 1573 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,080 future and kids futures and 1574 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,080 defend the force to make a 1575 00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,080 walking path. Dear anyone who 1576 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,040 will listen, fairy shrimp, red 1577 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,040 shoulder talks, and even the 1578 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,040 endangered species of brown 1579 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,040 snake, they all live in Fairview 1580 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,040 forest please protect Fairview 1581 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,040 forest. I'm scared of greenhouse 1582 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,040 gases. Please stop cutting 1583 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,040 trees. Stop cutting and start 1584 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,040 planting. Deforestation is 1585 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,040 wrong. Please save the forest. 1586 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,040 I'm a grade five student debt 1587 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,040 can clear elementary. Please say 1588 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,040 Fairview forest. Brown snake, 1589 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040 very shrimp. Help, help, help. 1590 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,040 Cutting down trees is hurting 1591 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,040 the environment, and increasing 1592 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,040 climate change. Fairview forest 1593 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040 is an example of that. With so 1594 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,040 many endangered species like the 1595 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,040 brown snake, also trees help 1596 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040 deal with pesky carbon, so we 1597 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040 need that. Please help forests. 1598 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,040 Please protect Fairview forest. 1599 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040 I might be young, but I have a 1600 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,040 whole life to live. If you cut 1601 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,040 down all the trees, there will 1602 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,040 be no future for me, for my 1603 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,040 children, and my children's 1604 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,000 children. Protect all the 1605 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000 animals, such as the red 1606 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,000 shouldered hawk. We should 1607 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,000 protect trees and ecosystems 1608 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000 because trees absorb carbon. 1609 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000 Also, forests are home to lots 1610 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000 of animals and biodiversity. 1611 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,000 Please help protect all forests. 1612 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000 Climate change is taking over. 1613 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,000 Temperatures are rising. If you 1614 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,000 want to help, don't just say it. 1615 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,000 Do it. The children at clear 1616 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,000 Point School are counting on 1617 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000 you. I do believe in the 1618 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000 political process, and I'm 1619 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,000 optimistic that all of you here 1620 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,000 caring about the citizens of 1621 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,000 Pointe-Claire and want to do 1622 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,000 what's right for the children. 1623 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,000 So Mister Mayor, and 1624 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000 councillors, will you please 1625 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,000 respond to the children of clear 1626 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,000 point elementary? Will you let 1627 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,000 them know that you have heard 1628 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000 them and will address their 1629 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,000 pleas for action on climate 1630 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,000 change and protection of 1631 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,000 Fairview forest? 1632 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000 >> Thank you. We have a 1633 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000 responsibility for other 1634 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,060 people's future, and that really 1635 01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:02,060 should weigh extremely heavily 1636 01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:06,060 on us going forward with her 1637 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:11,060 policy. I find fascinating in 1638 01:01:11,060 --> 01:01:15,060 the debate about densification 1639 01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:19,060 and urban sprawl that the logic 1640 01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:21,060 for densification is the 1641 01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:22,060 preventer of urban sprawl, yet 1642 01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:25,060 it also entails eradicating all 1643 01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:27,060 green spaces in urban settings, 1644 01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:29,060 which seems completely 1645 01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:31,060 counterproductive to me. So I 1646 01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:33,060 hear them loud and clear, 1647 01:01:33,060 --> 01:01:35,060 myself, personally. Others in 1648 01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:37,060 this council may feel otherwise. 1649 01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:39,060 I think living in cities where 1650 01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:41,060 you've gone up to the moon and 1651 01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:43,060 live in little units and you 1652 01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:45,060 sleep in a coffin sized bed and 1653 01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:48,060 you go down a tube is maybe not 1654 01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:49,060 the quality of life everyone is 1655 01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:51,060 looking forward to and they we 1656 01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:53,060 may have to find another way to 1657 01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:54,060 Lee live, ecologically, which 1658 01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:56,060 gives us the quality of life 1659 01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:58,060 where you we have green space in 1660 01:01:58,060 --> 01:02:00,020 our urban settings and we can 1661 01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,020 enjoy green space in our daily 1662 01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:03,020 existence, in urban settings. 1663 01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:06,020 It's been proven to be 1664 01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:07,020 psychologically necessary for 1665 01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:09,020 our existence. So the 1666 01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:10,020 eradication of urban green 1667 01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:12,020 spaces, for me, is a complete 1668 01:02:12,020 --> 01:02:15,020 and utter foolhardy proposition. 1669 01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:17,020 But going forward, who knows 1670 01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:18,020 where we will end up? But I 1671 01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:20,020 concur with what they are 1672 01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:22,020 saying. I can only reinforce 1673 01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:24,020 what they are saying and say 1674 01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:25,020 that terracotta was a result of 1675 01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:28,020 a group of very determined young 1676 01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:30,020 people who didn't take no for an 1677 01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:31,020 answer. So I encourage them to 1678 01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:33,020 do the same. 1679 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:35,020 >> Thank you very much. I would 1680 01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:37,020 like to give you the hearts. 1681 01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:39,020 >> The hearts, okay. 1682 01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:40,020 [Laughter] 1683 01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:44,020 Do I get them? That's a real 1684 01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:49,020 bonus. Okay. Sure. 1685 01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:56,020 [Inaudible] 1686 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,080 [Applause] 1687 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,080 Maria Benner vetoes? 1688 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,080 >> Good evening, Mayor and. 1689 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,080 Council my name is Maria 1690 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,080 Benivitas, and I am death. I am 1691 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,080 part -- of Pointe-Claire. I come 1692 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:40,080 to speak to you today for --, a 1693 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,080 professional in trumpeter who 1694 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,080 understands I interpreting 1695 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,080 needs. She's an interpreter who 1696 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,080 can form of to -- better support 1697 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,080 my. Signs American sign 1698 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,080 language. Most interpreters 1699 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,080 interpret either with American 1700 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,080 sign language or -- or 1701 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,040 alliteration, which is basically 1702 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,040 through -- but in my situation I 1703 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,040 use both and it has worked for 1704 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,040 the very well. I come here today 1705 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,040 in response to the recent 1706 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,040 announcement that interpretation 1707 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,040 services for Québec's death 1708 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,040 anglophone community are being 1709 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040 cut. When Friday March 3rd, 1710 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:25,040 2020, three I received them who 1711 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,040 originator, -- metropolitan. The 1712 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:36,040 agency that manages the quest 1713 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,040 for interpreters for deaf and 1714 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,040 for clients and businesses in 1715 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,040 the island of Montréal. Then for 1716 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040 me the booking request for 1717 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,040 interpreters is on hold 1718 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,040 indefinitely. -- communicated to 1719 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040 be that the CC as Eminem is 1720 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,040 suspending the anglophone 1721 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,040 American sign language 1722 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,040 interpretation program. As they 1723 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:02,000 have run out of money. As of now 1724 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,000 the CCSMN will only address 1725 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000 certain situations such as if a 1726 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,000 deaf person has to go to a 1727 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,000 hospital emergency room for a 1728 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000 medical or middle of crisis. 1729 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000 Know that emergency situations 1730 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,000 were not clearly defined in 1731 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,000 writing. Interpreters for the 1732 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,000 death or any central service. 1733 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000 They break down barriers and 1734 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,000 promote understanding between 1735 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,000 deaf and hearing people and play 1736 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,000 an important role in helping to 1737 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,000 ease the complexity of 1738 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,000 isolation. Communication 1739 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,000 matters. The death -- community 1740 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,000 and wins were by another agency 1741 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,000 --. The interpreters have 1742 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,000 received their own funding. 1743 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,000 While the CCSMN has been 1744 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,000 providing services for the 1745 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,000 anglophone since 2011. Under the 1746 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,060 management of the -- today. 1747 01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:02,060 Given without warning, members 1748 01:06:02,060 --> 01:06:05,060 of the anglophone deaf community 1749 01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:06,060 have now left without 1750 01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:08,060 interpreters. Those interpreters 1751 01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:10,060 are not being paid, including my 1752 01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:12,060 own interpreter. This is not 1753 01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:16,060 acceptable. I have been using 1754 01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:17,060 interpreters since my last year 1755 01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,060 of high school. This service is 1756 01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:24,060 invaluable. It is -- it 1757 01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:25,060 overcomes barriers to 1758 01:06:25,060 --> 01:06:27,060 communication, especially if I 1759 01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:31,060 am among a group of people. A 1760 01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:36,060 classroom on the last meeting -- 1761 01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:39,060 I use interpreter for medical 1762 01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:41,060 appointments and municipal 1763 01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:42,060 meetings such as City workshop 1764 01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:44,060 that they attended in December. 1765 01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:46,060 And this one that is going to be 1766 01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:49,060 presented tomorrow. Tomorrow 1767 01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:53,060 night. For I will see this -- 1768 01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:55,060 this allows me to become more 1769 01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:57,060 involved in my community 1770 01:06:57,060 --> 01:06:59,060 participation other than be 1771 01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:03,020 isolated. Now that the service 1772 01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:06,020 is temporarily suspended until 1773 01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:09,020 they have money, I have increase 1774 01:07:09,020 --> 01:07:10,020 the stress as to how I will be 1775 01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:12,020 able to understand, much less 1776 01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:16,020 communicate. Suspending this 1777 01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:18,020 service for the deaf anglophone 1778 01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:19,020 community in jeopardy. My 1779 01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:23,020 understanding is that the board 1780 01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:29,020 of the CCSMM F suspended the 1781 01:07:30,020 --> 01:07:32,020 service and the CCSMM should be 1782 01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:33,020 responsible for the funds from 1783 01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:35,020 the government. Have to apply 1784 01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:37,020 for the funds. So the fact that 1785 01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,020 this has happened even more then 1786 01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,020 once the issue right now when to 1787 01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:45,020 apply for more funding. This is 1788 01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:47,020 been going on for more or less 1789 01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:51,020 20 years. This means 1790 01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:54,020 mismanagement has to stop. I 1791 01:07:54,020 --> 01:07:56,020 would like to respect finally 1792 01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:59,020 ask you to help support me and 1793 01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:01,080 as the anglophone community to 1794 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,080 sending in their support and 1795 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,080 asking for solutions to our 1796 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,080 minister of -- the -- relations 1797 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,080 and English speaking Director. 1798 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,080 So the committee action. I would 1799 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,080 ask for an inquiry into this 1800 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,080 matter. If you like to ask me 1801 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,080 questions or ask my interpreter 1802 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,080 for the information, please do 1803 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,080 so. I am more than eager to show 1804 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,080 you how this means of 1805 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,080 communication system works for 1806 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080 the deaf community. Thank you, 1807 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,080 Mister Mayor and Council members 1808 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,080 for listening to me, for your 1809 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,080 support and cooperation. 1810 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,080 >> Thank you. I applaud your 1811 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:48,080 intervention. I surprised and 1812 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,080 I'm intrigued by the, I think 1813 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,080 there's a difference between the 1814 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,080 provision of services for 1815 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,080 francophones and anglophones and 1816 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,080 that I find astonishing. I hope 1817 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040 that's not the case. I don't 1818 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,040 know much and I'm not informed 1819 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,040 as to the specifics of this 1820 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,040 issue but I think that that 1821 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,040 obviously is not a good thing if 1822 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,040 that's the case. I would also 1823 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,040 like to, if you could send me or 1824 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,040 document the value of 1825 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,040 interpretation to the quality of 1826 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,040 life and to that of your peers 1827 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,040 that would be really 1828 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,040 illuminating from me. If I am to 1829 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,040 draft a letter, I'd love to be 1830 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,040 informed on it so that it can be 1831 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,040 a good one. And my other 1832 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,040 suggestion, it's a provincial 1833 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:42,040 issue. Have you spoken to the 1834 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,040 emanate, because Greg I'm sure 1835 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,040 would be all over this if he had 1836 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,040 a chance, as well. I'm intrigued 1837 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,040 by the issue. I don't know much 1838 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,040 about it, but peoples ability in 1839 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,040 their quality of life is crucial 1840 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,040 to this, and so it obviously is 1841 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,040 powerful and impactful. 1842 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,000 >> Okay, I have to say 1843 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,000 something, I have to say that 1844 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:06,000 when this happened I'm also back 1845 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,000 to am and a. He is involved. We 1846 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,000 are working on it. But I'm 1847 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,000 asking also for your support. I 1848 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,000 feel it is important because the 1849 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,000 more people that reaches out, 1850 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,000 the more people that reaches 1851 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,000 out, our community needs it. 1852 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,000 >> Okay. 1853 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,000 >> I hope that you understand. 1854 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000 >> I do, what I'm gonna call 1855 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,000 great tomorrow. It will be my 1856 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,000 first call tomorrow so I can get 1857 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000 his guidance on, I'm sure he 1858 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,000 knows more about this than I do. 1859 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000 But I will certainly, I'm glad 1860 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,000 you have spoken to him, so I can 1861 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,000 certainly, if you would give me 1862 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,000 your personal experience or the 1863 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000 importance to you in writing, 1864 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,000 and I will speak to Greg, and I 1865 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,000 can certainly draft a letter. 1866 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,000 That's not a problem at all. 1867 01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,060 >> Okay. That's fine. All right, 1868 01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:01,060 so, thank you very much. I just 1869 01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:04,060 wanted to show you how it works. 1870 01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:07,060 As you can see -- 1871 01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:08,060 >> It worked well. 1872 01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:10,060 >> That's right. That's right 1873 01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:14,060 and also the fact that we have 1874 01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:16,060 had one combinations had been 1875 01:11:16,060 --> 01:11:18,060 working before such as the iPad 1876 01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:20,060 that have closed captioning that 1877 01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:22,060 I have been using before. And 1878 01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:24,060 for the answers I have to come 1879 01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:29,060 to -- so sometimes interpreters 1880 01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:33,060 do work. As you can understand. 1881 01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,060 So having used interpreters in a 1882 01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:38,060 very different situation. Of 1883 01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:40,060 course, take technology can 1884 01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:43,060 work. There are some cases where 1885 01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:45,060 captioning works. But as you can 1886 01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:49,060 see, right now, the screen right 1887 01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:50,060 there which could have closed 1888 01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:53,060 captions, but I can see because 1889 01:11:53,060 --> 01:11:58,060 I am in front. But if I have my 1890 01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:01,020 interpreter here instead of down 1891 01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:05,020 on my iPad, I delay. Sometimes, 1892 01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:07,020 you know, I am very confused. So 1893 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:10,020 sometimes I have my interpreter 1894 01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:11,020 which speaks me in a way that 1895 01:12:11,020 --> 01:12:13,020 some kind of realtime 1896 01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:16,020 interpretation. Thank you very 1897 01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:17,020 much for listening to. Me 1898 01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:21,020 >> Thank you very much. Thank 1899 01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:26,020 you so much. 1900 01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:30,020 >> Mister Mayor, if I may, to 1901 01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:32,020 other people have been added to 1902 01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:35,020 the list. Lowest Butler. 1903 01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:50,020 >> CCSMM Lois Butler, say 1904 01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:51,020 Pointe-Claire incident. I had 1905 01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:53,020 some clients in my story today 1906 01:12:53,020 --> 01:12:54,020 they're excited about heavy 1907 01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:55,020 visitors for this first time in 1908 01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:56,020 a long time and a looking 1909 01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,020 forward to bringing them to the 1910 01:12:58,020 --> 01:13:00,080 village and they were asking me 1911 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,080 what is the status with the 1912 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,080 windmill and is it going to be 1913 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,080 fixed and what's going on. They 1914 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,080 would really like to know. I 1915 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,080 guess I would like to know. So 1916 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,080 what's happening with the 1917 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,080 windmill? 1918 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,080 >> It has been back and forth 1919 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,080 for the last two months. I have 1920 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,080 been trying to expedite it. I 1921 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,080 have been all over it. Madame 1922 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080 Val-d'Or will attest for this, I 1923 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,080 have been on this probably every 1924 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,080 week probably three times a week 1925 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,080 since then there been minor 1926 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,080 details not minor but the legal 1927 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080 details of the finalization of 1928 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,080 the agreement going back and war 1929 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,080 forth between the archdiocese in 1930 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,080 the city and it has been to my 1931 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,080 frustration and I would love it 1932 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:45,080 to happen much sooner but, -- I 1933 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,080 think everybody would like to 1934 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,080 see it 1935 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,080 >> It's almost there, but it's 1936 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:53,080 like anything it's the final say 1937 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,080 -- I'm actively working on. It 1938 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,080 >> Yes. 1939 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,080 >> I've been bugging I the 1940 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,040 living daylights out of. Her 1941 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,040 >> It was a wonderful evening 1942 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,040 when we saw the students from 1943 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,040 St. Thomas, the participation, 1944 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,040 getting involved with things in 1945 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,040 their community in 1946 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,040 Pointe-Claire. I have been a 1947 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,040 very strong supporter of 1948 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,040 Fairview forest, as most people 1949 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,040 know. I would like to know, I 1950 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,040 know you've written to Mayor 1951 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,040 Plante about the forest. Have 1952 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,040 you contacted other levels of 1953 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:32,040 government to request funding? 1954 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,040 What's happening? Can you tell 1955 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,040 us who you've spoken to or what 1956 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,040 you've done? 1957 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,040 >> The really important one is 1958 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,040 coming up, one is that we're 1959 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,040 meeting? Is it this week? 1960 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,040 >> It's next week. 1961 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,040 >> With the representative, 1962 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,040 Madam Plante's -- 1963 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,040 >> Next week is the other one. 1964 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,040 >> That's Madam Plante? 1965 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,040 >> We also contacted the CAO, 1966 01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,000 the most viable sources of 1967 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,000 potential funding and the 1968 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,000 provincial government as well. 1969 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,000 >> That's good. People want to 1970 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,000 know these things. They are very 1971 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,000 interested. Those two things in 1972 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,000 our city. All right. Thank you. 1973 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,000 >> You are welcome. One other? 1974 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,000 >> One more. 1975 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,000 >> A record night, I never get 1976 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,000 to speak. I appreciate that I 1977 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,000 can tonight. Another resident of 1978 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,000 Pointe-Claire, a resident of 1979 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,000 Pierrefonds. I am really into 1980 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,000 the forest. You will see me on 1981 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,000 the corner of Fairview and 1982 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,000 Brunswick every Saturday. That 1983 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,000 forest is really important to me 1984 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,000 and many people, from what I am 1985 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,000 learning about likelier and how 1986 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,000 many people really love green 1987 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,000 spaces in this area. But it's 1988 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,000 also important to west 1989 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,000 islanders. When I say important, 1990 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,060 I don't always mean that you are 1991 01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:02,060 going to see people there every 1992 01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:04,060 weekend and with their strollers 1993 01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:06,060 and picnic baskets from all over 1994 01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:08,060 the West Island. In fact, a lot 1995 01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:09,060 of people don't really know 1996 01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:10,060 about it, they don't know about 1997 01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:11,060 the access to it, even though 1998 01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:13,060 that's been prevented now, the 1999 01:16:13,060 --> 01:16:17,060 access to it. It is a little 2000 01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:22,060 more soul of environmental 2001 01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:23,060 health that you've got a lot of 2002 01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:28,060 responsibility on your plate. I 2003 01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:29,060 don't vote for you. You don't 2004 01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:33,060 have to do anything for me 2005 01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:36,060 because I don't have any say. I 2006 01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:39,060 get that. But it is not just for 2007 01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:41,060 me. It isn't just for 2008 01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:42,060 Pointe-Claire when you save a 2009 01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:46,060 forest. It's going to sound kind 2010 01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:50,060 of cliché, but you have a bigger 2011 01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:51,060 responsibility. There were so 2012 01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:52,060 little left everywhere. There is 2013 01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:55,060 so little left. I wish every 2014 01:16:55,060 --> 01:16:57,060 city, I will go to every city, 2015 01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:58,060 and I have been going through 2016 01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:03,020 every city to ask this. Every 2017 01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:05,020 space is crucial now. There is 2018 01:17:05,020 --> 01:17:09,020 just no question. So I know it 2019 01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:11,020 is so simplified for me to say 2020 01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:13,020 this, but I just wish every 2021 01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:15,020 person in your seats we would 2022 01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:17,020 look at a forest and go, hold 2023 01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:19,020 on, that's not on the table. 2024 01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:21,020 Let's see what else we can do. 2025 01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:22,020 There are so many other things 2026 01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:24,020 we can do for Cadillac Fairview. 2027 01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:25,020 Give them what they want, give 2028 01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:26,020 the citizens what they want, and 2029 01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:29,020 keep the forest. It is doable. I 2030 01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:31,020 know you can do this. I really, 2031 01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:35,020 really have faith in you guys. 2032 01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:37,020 All I'm asking is for some of 2033 01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:39,020 the people that are 2034 01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:40,020 environmentalists and Montréal 2035 01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:42,020 to have a say in this process. 2036 01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:46,020 In some form. As I say, I don't 2037 01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:47,020 want to take anybody's place 2038 01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:50,020 from Pointe-Claire to speak. 2039 01:17:50,020 --> 01:17:52,020 But, you know, we can submit 2040 01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:54,020 briefs. We can submit 2041 01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:56,020 information, ideas, anything. I 2042 01:17:56,020 --> 01:17:57,020 hope the consultation process is 2043 01:17:57,020 --> 01:18:02,080 inviting ideas and input, even 2044 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,080 if only from Pointe-Claire. At 2045 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,080 least it's inviting something, 2046 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,080 not just on a steering note to 2047 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,080 pick that choice and that 2048 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,080 choice. A true consultation. 2049 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,080 When Montréal holds a 2050 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,080 consultation, it's across the 2051 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,080 board. Anybody can attend. That 2052 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,080 is together. That's to get the 2053 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,080 best idea. I really hope that 2054 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,080 you open the board to get the 2055 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,080 best ideas, the best for your 2056 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,080 city. Then it will be the best 2057 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,080 for everybody. That's not really 2058 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,080 question. That's all I had to 2059 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,080 say. 2060 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,080 >> Okay. Well, -- 2061 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,080 >> Thank you for the opportunity 2062 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,080 to speak. 2063 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,080 >> Our pleasure. You are right, 2064 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,080 it effects -- the area is 2065 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,080 everybody's resource. It is 2066 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,080 shared around the world. It's 2067 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,080 not specific to an area. I agree 2068 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,080 with you 100 percent. I have 2069 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,080 always felt, for me there is a 2070 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,080 natural inherent logic to 2071 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,080 protecting the forest in that 2072 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,080 you do an urban development, you 2073 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,080 have a requisite amount of green 2074 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,040 space that should accompany and 2075 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,040 urban development. There is one 2076 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,040 already there. 2077 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,040 >> It's not enough. 2078 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,040 >> I know. There is one already 2079 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,040 there. What I'm saying is there 2080 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,040 is one already there. Okay, you 2081 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,040 do a real estate development and 2082 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,040 you've got green space right 2083 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,040 beside your real estate 2084 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,040 development. That enhances the 2085 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,040 value of your real estate. Your 2086 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,040 real estate development. 2087 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,040 Everybody wants to live 2088 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,040 somewhere that has a green 2089 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,040 space. You go to Griffintown 2090 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,040 where there is none. The 2091 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,040 inherent logic of having a green 2092 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,040 space naturally provided a 2093 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,040 company of urban development is 2094 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,040 when -- it always has been a 2095 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,040 no-brainer. Mount Royal to 2096 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,040 Montréal, Stanley Park to 2097 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,040 Vancouver, and accompanying 2098 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,040 green space for people to enjoy 2099 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,040 it makes the urban setting so 2100 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,040 much more enjoyable. For me, it 2101 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:52,040 has always been a no-brainer. I 2102 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,040 am concurring with what you are 2103 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,040 saying. 2104 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,040 >> Thank you. 2105 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,040 >> Yeah. Is that it? Okay. 2106 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000 5.1 2107 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,000 - Adoption d'un règlement 2108 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,000 décrétant un emprunt à long 2109 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,000 terme et une dépense en 2110 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,000 immobilisations de 3650000$ pour 2111 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,000 le remplacement et l'acquisition 2112 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,000 de véhicules et d'équipements. 2113 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,000 il s'agit de règlements 2114 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,000 comprenant divers achats de même 2115 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,000 naturelle de même durée 2116 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000 d'emprunt, à Savard, le 2117 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,000 remplacement et la mise à jour 2118 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,000 du parc de véhicules, 2119 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,000 acquisition de nouveaux 2120 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,000 véhicules et d'équipements, 2121 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,000 équipement et aussi pour le 2122 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,000 nouvel atelier mécanique. Le 2123 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,000 montant financier sera remboursé 2124 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,000 par le billet d'une taxe imposée 2125 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,000 à l'ensemble de la municipalité 2126 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,000 sera la base de la valeur 2127 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,000 foncière... 2128 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000 >> La valeur foncière des 2129 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,000 immeubles so explain, went 2130 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,000 imposables, et ce, sur une durée 2131 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,000 de 6 ans. A grand financial 2132 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,000 support to various nonprofit 2133 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,000 Organizations for a total amount 2134 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,000 of $8,934. The organizations 2135 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,000 being the West Island 2136 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,000 association for the 2137 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,000 intellectually handicapped, the 2138 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,060 -- 2139 01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:01,060 >>... Do I have habitation 2140 01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:02,060 jeunesse de l'ouest de l'île. A 2141 01:21:02,060 --> 01:21:04,060 mover for 5.1 and 6.1. 2142 01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:05,060 >> Cowan, 2143 01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:06,060 District eight. 2144 01:21:06,060 --> 01:21:08,060 >> Seconder? 2145 01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:09,060 >> Cynthia homes, district five. 2146 01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:12,060 >> All in favour? 7.1 Déposer le 2147 01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:13,060 procès-verbal de la réunion du 2148 01:21:13,060 --> 01:21:14,060 Comité Consultatif de la 2149 01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:15,060 Bibliothèque de PointeClaire du 2150 01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:19,060 9 février 2023. 2151 01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:22,060 >> 7.2, a point a member of the 2152 01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:24,060 Pointe-Claire Public Library 2153 01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:25,060 advisory board, this motion is 2154 01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:27,060 to appoint misses -- as a member 2155 01:21:27,060 --> 01:21:29,060 of the Pointe-Claire Public 2156 01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:30,060 Library advisory committee for a 2157 01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:31,060 three-year term until December 2158 01:21:31,060 --> 01:21:33,060 31st, 2025. 7.3 Approuver la 2159 01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:34,060 reconduction et la nomination de 2160 01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:35,060 membres au sein du Comité 2161 01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:40,060 consultatif Stewart Hall. le 2162 01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:44,060 comité consultatif recommande la 2163 01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:45,060 reconduction de monsieur Larry 2164 01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:47,060 oignons, madame Hélène Cousineau 2165 01:21:47,060 --> 01:21:49,060 et madame Lucie Lapointe pour 2166 01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:50,060 des mandats de 3 ans, soit du 2167 01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:52,060 1er janvier 2023 au 31 décembre 2168 01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:54,060 2025. Le comité consultatif 2169 01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:55,060 recommande aussi la nomination 2170 01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:58,060 de nouveaux membres, soit 2171 01:21:58,060 --> 01:21:59,060 monsieur Alexandra Navarre et 2172 01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:00,020 madame Arlette Smith, pour des 2173 01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:03,020 mandats de trois, en soi de 2174 01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:04,020 janvier 2023 à 2175 01:22:04,020 --> 01:22:05,020 (---) 2176 01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:06,020 2025, le comité municipal 2177 01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:09,020 procède à la nomination du 2178 01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,020 comité dont la 2179 01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:11,020 >> Composition finale demeure a 2180 01:22:11,020 --> 01:22:13,020 point when, authorize the city 2181 01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:14,020 to son entière discrétion. 2182 01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:15,020 Become a member of the Great 2183 01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:16,020 Lakes and St. Lawrence cities 2184 01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:17,020 initiative. The Great Lakes and 2185 01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:19,020 St. Lawrence cities initiative 2186 01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:20,020 provides an avenue for the 2187 01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:21,020 participation and local 2188 01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:22,020 government in 2189 01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:23,020 Decision-making regard to the 2190 01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:25,020 lakes, as well as a network for 2191 01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:27,020 restoration and protection and 2192 01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:28,020 best practices sharing between 2193 01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:31,020 lakes. 2194 01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:32,020 >> For 7.2 to 8.1, do I have a 2195 01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:34,020 mover? 2196 01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:36,020 >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, 2197 01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:37,020 district three. 2198 01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:38,020 >> Seconder? 2199 01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:39,020 >> Eric Stork, district seven. 2200 01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:41,020 >> All in favour? 2201 01:22:41,020 --> 01:22:43,020 >> Hold on, if I could just -- I 2202 01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:45,020 understand somebody did not 2203 01:22:45,020 --> 01:22:47,020 >> Owe, yes, yes, yes. 2204 01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:49,020 >> Somebody voted against? 2205 01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:51,020 >> Mister Mayor, I will speak 2206 01:22:51,020 --> 01:22:55,020 first? 2207 01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:56,020 >> 7.3. 2208 01:22:56,020 --> 01:22:59,020 >> I am voting for 7.1 and 7.2, 2209 01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:02,080 I'm voting against 7.3. 2210 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,080 >> Is anybody else voting 2211 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,080 against the same, 7.3? Okay. 2212 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:12,080 Thank you. Mister Mayor, yes? 2213 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,080 - Merci. 2214 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,080 - O.K.. 2215 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,080 - Oui. 10.1 Déposer la liste des 2216 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,080 amendements budgétaires et le 2217 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,080 registre des chèques pour la 2218 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,080 période du 26 janvier 2023 au 1 2219 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:27,080 mars 2023. 2220 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,080 >> Ten points or two, -- and to 2221 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,080 the terms of the Elections -- 2222 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,080 municipalities, the treasurer 2223 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,080 must -- April 1st submit to the 2224 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,080 municipal council the report of 2225 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,080 the activities he carried out 2226 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,080 under chapter 13 of the 2227 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,080 elections and referendums 2228 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,080 municipalities. In the previous 2229 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,080 fiscal year from January 1st to 2230 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,080 December 31st. 10.3 Octroyer un 2231 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,080 contrat pour la fourniture de 2232 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,080 services sur demande pour des 2233 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,080 travaux de câblages 2234 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,080 informatiques incluant pièces et 2235 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,080 accessoires pour tous les 2236 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,080 bâtiments de la ville pour les 2237 01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,040 année 2023-2024 et 2024-2025, à 2238 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,040 Sci Connexion Inc., pour un 2239 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,040 montant total de 221901,75$, 2240 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:10,040 taxes incluses. 2241 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,040 >> 11.1, to authorize the 2242 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,040 payment of insurance premiums 2243 01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,040 for 2023 in order to obtain the 2244 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,040 best possible rates. The city 2245 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,040 deals with the Union of 2246 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,040 Municipalities of Québec. It 2247 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,040 acts as the agent of group of 2248 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,040 municipalities on the island of 2249 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,040 Montréal for the purpose of 2250 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,040 insurance and the guarantee 2251 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,040 find. It should be noted that 2252 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,040 this is the city's property and 2253 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,040 casualty insurance. 12.1 Déposer 2254 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,040 la liste des changements au 2255 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,040 personnel par décisions 2256 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,040 déléguées pour le mois de mars 2257 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,040 2023. 2258 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,040 >> To approve the -- March 14th, 2259 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,040 2023. 2260 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,040 >> Do I have a mover for 10.3 to 2261 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,040 12.2? 2262 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,040 >> Eric Stork, district seven. 2263 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,040 >> And a seconder? 2264 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,040 >> Brett Cowan, district eight? 2265 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,040 >> All in favour? 13.1 Approuver 2266 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,040 une entente à intervenir avec le 2267 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,040 Centre de services scolaire 2268 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,040 Marguerite-Bourgeoys, concernant 2269 01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,040 la prévention et la sécurité 2270 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,000 autour de l'École Saint-Louis. 2271 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,000 le but étant de définir les 2272 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,000 responsabilités des deux 2273 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,000 organisations dans la gestion de 2274 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,000 la circulation et les parents 2275 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,000 autour de l'école afin 2276 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000 d'augmenter la sécurité des 2277 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,000 usagers et maintenir la qualité 2278 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,000 de vie des résidents à 2279 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,000 proximité. -- 2280 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,000 >> For the provision of a -- 2281 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,000 [Inaudible] 2282 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,000 The provision of certain 2283 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,000 additional services by the City 2284 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,000 of Montréal. This agreement will 2285 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,000 allow inspection in public 2286 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,000 security departments to continue 2287 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,000 to use in the SPC I system which 2288 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,000 is linked to the municipal court 2289 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,000 of Montréal furnish until three 2290 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,000 years. 13.3 Autoriser l'achat 2291 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,000 d'équipement de 2292 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,000 radiocommunication dans le cadre 2293 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,000 de l'entente concernant 2294 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,000 l'acquisition, l'installation et 2295 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,000 l'entretien d'un système de 2296 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,000 radiocommunication vocale 2297 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,000 (SERAM) 2298 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,000 intervenue avec la Ville de 2299 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,000 Montréal. la résolution est 2300 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000 requise afin que les équipements 2301 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,000 acquis par la Ville soit inclus 2302 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,000 dans la liste des appareils de 2303 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,000 radiocommunications autorisés à 2304 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,000 être utilisés sur les fréquences 2305 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,000 de 2306 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,060 >> Systèmes for 13.1 to 13.3, do 2307 01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:02,060 I have a mover? 2308 01:26:02,060 --> 01:26:04,060 >> Moved SERAM. 2309 01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:05,060 By terrace game fourth, district 2310 01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:07,060 four. 2311 01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:08,060 >> Seconder? 2312 01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:09,060 >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, 2313 01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:10,060 district three. 2314 01:26:10,060 --> 01:26:13,060 >> All in favour? 2315 01:26:13,060 --> 01:26:14,060 >> 14 point, went to accept the 2316 01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:16,060 renewal option for the contract 2317 01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:18,060 entered into with CONCEPTION 2318 01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:19,060 PAYSAGE INC., For the year 2023, 2319 01:26:19,060 --> 01:26:23,060 in the amount of $ 25,186.77, 2320 01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:25,060 taxes included concerning 2321 01:26:25,060 --> 01:26:26,060 professional services for the 2322 01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:27,060 monthly inspection of City 2323 01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:31,060 playgrouds. 14.2 Octroyer un 2324 01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:32,060 contrat pour des travaux 2325 01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:33,060 d'entretien horticole aux 2326 01:26:33,060 --> 01:26:34,060 aménagements du boulevard Hymus 2327 01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:38,060 pour l'année 2023, à 9042-0845 2328 01:26:38,060 --> 01:26:39,060 Québec Inc. 2329 01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:40,060 (Mario C. Et Fils) 2330 01:26:40,060 --> 01:26:41,060 , pour un montant total de 2331 01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:43,060 320913, 86$, taxes incluses, 2332 01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:48,060 avec l'année 2024 en option. 2333 01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:50,060 cinq blocs dans ce contrat, le 2334 01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:53,060 Bloc un, des travaux d'entretien 2335 01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:54,060 des quatre coins aménagé à 2336 01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:55,060 l'intersection des boulevard 2337 01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:57,060 Hymus et Saint-Jean, bloc, deux 2338 01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:58,060 travaux d'entretien des 2339 01:26:58,060 --> 01:26:59,060 aménagements de plates-bandes 2340 01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:01,020 localisés de parer d'autres de 2341 01:27:01,020 --> 01:27:03,020 la piste cyclable longeant les 2342 01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:04,020 terrains situés entre la rue 2343 01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,020 (---) 2344 01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:06,020 et le boulevard Saint-Jean, 2345 01:27:06,020 --> 01:27:08,020 bloc, trois travaux d'entretien 2346 01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:11,020 et d'aménagement du côté sud du 2347 01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:14,020 boulevard au sud de la piste 2348 01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:15,020 cyclable entre St-Jean et 2349 01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:16,020 Bellemare, bloque, quatre 2350 01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:17,020 entretiens des aménagements au 2351 01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:21,020 terre-plein du boulevard Hymus 2352 01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:22,020 entre les avenues pas pré-camp 2353 01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:25,020 et maltraite, bloc, cinq travaux 2354 01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:26,020 d'aménagement du côté nord du 2355 01:27:26,020 --> 01:27:27,020 boulevard Hymus, coin ouest de 2356 01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:28,020 l' 2357 01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:29,020 >> Avenue même Fred jusqu'à 2358 01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:31,020 l'avenue nordique. 2359 01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:32,020 14 point, three of what a 2360 01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:33,020 contract for the supply and 2361 01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:34,020 loading of bituminous mix for 2362 01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:35,020 the period of mid-March 2023 to 2363 01:27:35,020 --> 01:27:37,020 mid-March 2024, to MELOCHE, 2364 01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:40,020 DIVISION OF SINTRA and 2365 01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:41,020 CONSTRUCTION DJL, for an 2366 01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:45,020 approximate amount of $ 2367 01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:47,020 329,679.32 taxes included, with 2368 01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:48,020 the years 2024-2025 and 2369 01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:53,020 2025-2026 in option. The 2370 01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:57,020 standing contract insurers of -- 2371 01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:58,020 in case of unavailability of our 2372 01:27:58,020 --> 01:28:00,080 lead supplier. 14.4 Approbation 2373 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,080 de l'évaluation de rendement 2374 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,080 insatisfaisant de Orange 2375 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,080 Paysagement Inc. dans le cadre 2376 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,080 de la réalisation du contrat 2377 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,080 pour des travaux de plantation 2378 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:11,080 et d'entretien d'arbres en 2379 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,080 motte. selon les clauses du 2380 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:14,080 contrat, le justifie 4 heures 2381 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,080 peut être évaluée au minimum 2382 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,080 deux fois pendant le contrat, la 2383 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,080 note de passage pour 2384 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,080 l'évaluation est de 80%. 2385 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,080 L'entrepreneur a été évaluée 2386 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,080 trois fois pendant la période du 2387 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,080 contrat et n'a pas obtenu la 2388 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,080 note de passage dans les trois 2389 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,080 cas. 2390 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,080 14.5 Adjust the expenses towards 2391 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,080 CONSTRUCTION DJL for the supply, 2392 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,080 without delivery, of hot mix 2393 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,080 asphalt for road maintenance 2394 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,080 works, for an amount of $ 2395 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:39,080 6,039.75, taxes included. A new 2396 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,080 increase of the purchase order 2397 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,080 is necessary to repair the 2398 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,080 expenses that occurred at the 2399 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,080 end of the 2020 season. The 2400 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,080 additional expenses is 6003 -- 2401 01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,080 which increases the purchase 2402 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,080 order from $50,000 to $844.42. 2403 01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,040 Including taxes to $56,844.17, 2404 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:04,040 including tax. 2405 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,040 >> From 14.1 to 14.5, do I have 2406 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,040 a mover? 2407 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,040 >> 2408 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,040 >> Seconder? 2409 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,040 >> Seconded by terrace Dane 2410 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,040 fourth, a district for. 2411 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,040 >> All in favour? 2412 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,040 >> 15.2 award of contract for 2413 01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,040 company maintenance an award for 2414 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,040 2022 and 24 in 2020 4:25 to -- 2415 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:03,000 total amount of $248,805.90, tax 2416 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,000 included, with the years 2025 2417 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:11,000 2026, 2026 2027, and 2020 7:28 2418 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,000 an option, this contract 2419 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,000 provides repetitive and 2420 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,000 unpredictable general carpentry 2421 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,000 maintenance and repair works to 2422 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,000 ensure the safe operation of 2423 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,000 municipal buildings. 2424 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,000 >> 15.5 we contract with -- with 2425 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,000 a new construction of a new 2426 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,000 police station for amount of 2427 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,000 three $3,000.43 tax included. 2428 01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,000 This is to authorize payment of 2429 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,060 five contract amendments for 2430 01:31:01,060 --> 01:31:05,060 electrical works. 2431 01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:07,060 >> For 15.1 two 15.5 two, I have 2432 01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:08,060 a mover? 2433 01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:11,060 >> When Cowan district date. All 2434 01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:14,060 in favour? 2435 01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:41,060 >> 2436 01:31:41,060 --> 01:31:42,060 >> 16 point to restoring the 2437 01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:44,060 baseball at -- parked with the 2438 01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:48,060 total amount of $934,718.01, 2439 01:31:49,060 --> 01:31:51,060 that is included. Scope of the 2440 01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:53,060 project is to upgrade unscrew 2441 01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:54,060 the baseball field at Northview 2442 01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:56,060 Park. There's landscaping, 2443 01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:59,060 drainage removal and replacement 2444 01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:00,020 of equipment and natural 2445 01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:02,020 services, supply in Elizabeth 2446 01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:03,020 elation of mesh screens on the 2447 01:32:03,020 --> 01:32:05,020 play benches as well as a play 2448 01:32:05,020 --> 01:32:07,020 service. 2449 01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:36,020 >> So important for award of 2450 01:32:36,020 --> 01:32:38,020 contract for the structure 2451 01:32:38,020 --> 01:32:39,020 rehabilitation of the of payment 2452 01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:40,020 drinking water main along de 2453 01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:41,020 source boulevard. Along 2454 01:32:41,020 --> 01:32:44,020 Chanteclerc and Cornish avenues 2455 01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:45,020 for four action eight for a 2456 01:32:45,020 --> 01:32:46,020 total amount of $792,000, taxes 2457 01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:48,020 included. 2458 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,040 >> Dean pointed approve a change 2459 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,040 order of the contract entered 2460 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,040 into with 12 construction Inc. 2461 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,040 for the construction of an 2462 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,040 accessible sanitary building at 2463 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:19,040 Augusta Park for the amount of 2464 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,040 $7,967.60, tax included. Three 2465 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,040 amendments or the extension of a 2466 01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,040 site insurance on the building, 2467 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,040 a temporary electrical 2468 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,040 connection to heat the building, 2469 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:27,040 and a supply and installation of 2470 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,040 a new sink. 2471 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,000 >> 14.1 to 16.9, do I have a 2472 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,000 mover? 2473 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,000 >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, 2474 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,000 district three. 2475 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,000 >> And seconder? 2476 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,000 >> District. To 2477 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,000 >> All in favour? 2478 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,000 >> So 17, the person presently 2479 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,000 does Council on the subjects 2480 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,000 here under the items 17.1 to 2481 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,000 17.3 consider a minor exemption 2482 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,000 request considering the property 2483 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,000 situated and I do wonder boarded 2484 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,060 a lack lakeshore road. To permit 2485 01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:02,060 the installation of a metal -- 2486 01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:03,060 planning material on the front 2487 01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:05,060 as well as first 20% of the 2488 01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:07,060 lateral facades rather than a 2489 01:36:07,060 --> 01:36:09,060 class a -- material as required. 2490 01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:11,060 Be, loading and unloading docks 2491 01:36:11,060 --> 01:36:12,060 on the front set back where they 2492 01:36:12,060 --> 01:36:17,060 are not permitted, three veal 2493 01:36:17,060 --> 01:36:18,060 vehicular access is really tour 2494 01:36:18,060 --> 01:36:19,060 permitted, loading and unloading 2495 01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:20,060 tax without the required area to 2496 01:36:20,060 --> 01:36:21,060 allow 15.2 metre track to 2497 01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:23,060 manoeuvre without using the 2498 01:36:23,060 --> 01:36:24,060 required parking spaces of the 2499 01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:26,060 street right away and finally 2500 01:36:26,060 --> 01:36:27,060 parking spaces in the front set 2501 01:36:27,060 --> 01:36:29,060 back where it is not permitted. 2502 01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:51,060 >> Georgia Crescent Avenue, 2503 01:36:51,060 --> 01:36:53,060 being the first triplex to 2504 01:36:53,060 --> 01:36:55,060 permit for a street parking 2505 01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:56,060 spaces rather than the minimum 2506 01:36:56,060 --> 01:36:58,060 required of five, three parking 2507 01:36:58,060 --> 01:37:00,020 spaces with a width of two point 2508 01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:01,020 05 metres rather than the 2509 01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:03,020 minimum required of 2.6 minute 2510 01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:04,020 metres and three parking spaces 2511 01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:07,020 where the length of 3.45 2512 01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:09,020 millimeters rather than required 2513 01:37:09,020 --> 01:37:10,020 of 5.5 metres, the practice 2514 01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,020 spaces with a width 2515 01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:14,020 perpendicular to the island to 2516 01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:16,020 0.44 metres, whether the minimum 2517 01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:18,020 required of 5.73 metres. A 2518 01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:20,020 circulation aisle with winds of 2519 01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:21,020 3.66 metres rather than a 2520 01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:24,020 minimum required 4.5 metres. I 2521 01:37:24,020 --> 01:37:25,020 vehicular access with the width 2522 01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:26,020 of seven point when we metres 2523 01:37:26,020 --> 01:37:28,020 our than the maximum permitted 2524 01:37:28,020 --> 01:37:30,020 of 6.1 metres, and finally the 2525 01:37:30,020 --> 01:37:31,020 reduction of the space in the 2526 01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:36,020 front set back to 74% rather the 2527 01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:40,020 minimum required 50%. 2528 01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:42,020 [Laughter] 2529 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,040 >> To preserve a certain number 2530 01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:09,040 of trees. 2531 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,040 >> I'm also voting against 17.1. 2532 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,040 I'm in favour of the other 2533 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:17,040 items, 17.2 through 17.7. I vote 2534 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:24,040 to vote against 17.1 in order to 2535 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,040 preserve some particular species 2536 01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,040 of trees, eastern cottonwoods, 2537 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:32,040 that are on that property. 2538 01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,040 >> Okay. But 2539 01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,040 >> 18 point, two to approve a 2540 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:00,000 partnership agreement to be 2541 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,000 entered into with the in this 2542 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000 city Pointe-Claire and the -- 2543 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,000 organization committed to 2544 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,000 preparing a safe environment 2545 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,000 free from all forms of 2546 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,000 harassment, abuse, and violence, 2547 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,000 the common commitment serve to 2548 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,000 protect the and interests of 2549 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,000 these officials volunteers and 2550 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,000 staff. 2551 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,000 >> Do I have a mover for 18.1 2552 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,000 and 18.2? 2553 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,000 >> I proposed to approve 18.1 2554 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,000 and 18.2. 2555 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,000 >> Seconder? 2556 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,000 >> Seconded by district six. 2557 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:33,000 >> All in favour? 2558 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:38,000 >> Madam Stainforth. Closure? 2559 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,000 Oh, yes, do I have a mover, 2560 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:42,000 foreclosure? 2561 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,000 >> Interesting, fourth district 2562 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,000 four. 2563 01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,000 >> District Stork, district? 2564 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,000 Seven 2565 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,000 >> Thanks everyone.