[0:38] - C'est une chambre pleine! It's
[0:41] nice to see everybody here.
[0:43] Merci, merci tout le! Monde à la
[0:44] séance du conseil du cette
[0:47] février dernier, nous avons
[0:49] rendu un hommage à monsieur
[0:51] Gregory bien lobby, très
[0:53] impliquée... impliqué, il est
[0:55] décédé le 16 janvier.
[0:57] Malheureusement, une erreur
[0:59] s'est glissée dans le texte
[1:02] concernant sa ville de
[1:03] résidence. Il a été mentionné
[1:06] qu'il était un résidant de
[1:08] Dorval alors que monsieur
[1:15] Bielby était un grand bénévole,
[1:16] mais également un résident de la
[1:17] Ville de Pointe-Claire. Au nom
[1:18] de la ville, je tiens à
[1:20] présenter des excuses à sa
[1:21] famille et ses amis pour cette
[1:23] erreur et leur souhaiter à
[1:26] nouveau toutes mes sympathies
[1:27] At the very seventh council
[1:29] meeting the pay tribute to Mr.
[1:33] Gregory -- and passed away on
[1:35] January 16th. Unfortunately, an
[1:36] error was made in the text
[1:38] regarding his city's residents.
[1:40] It was mentioned he was a
[1:41] resident of Dorval, whereas he
[1:44] was a great volunteer and, in
[1:45] fact, a resident of the city of
[1:47] Pointe-Claire. On behalf of the
[1:49] city I would like to apologize
[1:50] to his family and friends for
[1:52] this error and offer them,
[1:53] again, our deepest condolences.
[1:59] La rue Columbus... toujours à la
[2:01] séance du conseil du 7 février
[2:03] dernier, j'ai mentionné que nous
[2:05] avions eu une demande en
[2:09] novembre 2022 pour modifier le
[2:10] nom de la rue Columbus à
[2:14] Pointe-Claire, et que selon un
[2:15] document que nous avions en
[2:16] même, le nom de la rue était à
[2:19] la mémoire de Christophe Colomb.
[2:21] Aujourd'hui, je dois rectifier,
[2:24] encore une fois, ces propos:
[2:26] l'équipe des archives a
[2:28] poursuivi ses recherches et nous
[2:31] ont appris que dans l'ensemble
[2:32] des publications officielles
[2:34] incluant la correspondance entre
[2:35] la Ville de Pointe-Claire et la
[2:40] Commission de type autonomie du
[2:42] Québec, il n'y a aucune
[2:45] toponymie, pardon, il n'y a
[2:47] aucune information permettant
[2:48] d'établir un lien entre l'avenue
[2:50] Columbus et la mémoire de
[2:51] Christophe-Colomb.
[2:53] Still, at the council meeting of
[2:56] February 7th, I mentioned we had
[2:57] had a request in November, 2022,
[3:00] to change the name of Columbus
[3:01] Street in Pointe-Claire, and
[3:03] that according to a document we
[3:04] had in hand, the name of the
[3:06] street was in memory of
[3:08] Christopher Columbus. Today, I
[3:10] must correct this statement. The
[3:11] archives team has continued its
[3:13] research and informs us that, in
[3:14] all the official correspondence
[3:18] -- and the commission de
[3:27] toponymie de Québec -- memory of
[3:29] Christopher Columbus.
[3:32] - La Ville de Pointe-Claire
[3:34] s'apprête à signer une entente
[3:35] de collaboration avec
[3:37] l'organisme
[3:44] SportAid. SportAid est un
[3:45] organisme sans but lucratif
[3:47] indépendant créé en 2014 par une
[3:50] équipe de trois personnes
[3:52] interpellées par le phénomène de
[3:53] la violence dans les sports.
[3:56] L'organisme vise à offrir des
[3:58] services d'accompagnement,
[3:59] d'écoute et d'orientation aux
[4:00] jeunes le sportive, mais
[4:02] également, aux divers acteurs
[4:05] non sportif québécois, par,
[4:07] entraîneur, aux organisations
[4:09] sportives officielles et
[4:10] bénévoles au témoin de violence
[4:12] à l'égard des jeunes sportifs.
[4:15] Cette entente permettra à la
[4:17] Ville et aux clubs sportifs
[4:20] paramunicipaux qui sont le club
[4:22] aquatique et le club de
[4:25] canoë-kayak d'obtenir des
[4:26] services conseils personnalisés
[4:28] et de se faire accompagner dans
[4:31] le développement et l'adaptation
[4:33] des politiques et procédures en
[4:36] matière de sécurité dans le
[4:38] sport. Pointe-Claire la première
[4:40] ville à signer une entente avec
[4:44] SportAid et se positionne en
[4:46] tant que chef de file et
[4:49] pionnier pour l'engagement de
[4:51] leur ville qui vise à obtenir un
[4:54] milieu sportif, de loisirs
[4:56] sains, harmonieux et inclusif.
[4:58] Je tiens à remercier notre
[5:01] dynamique équipe de sport et
[5:03] loisirs et son directeur,
[5:05] monsieur Gilles Girouard. Ce
[5:08] partenariat démontre notre
[5:09] proactivité et notre souci de
[5:12] qualité et de services offerts à
[5:13] notre communauté.
[5:15] City of Pointe-Claire its back
[5:17] to Santa Clara ration with
[5:20] agreement with Sport'Aide.
[5:21] Sport'Aide it's an independent
[5:22] nonprofit organization created
[5:23] in 2014 by team of three people
[5:25] concerned by the phenomenon of
[5:26] violence in sports. The
[5:28] organization aims to offer
[5:29] support and guidance services to
[5:31] young athletes as well as to the
[5:33] various actors in the Québec
[5:35] sports world -- parents,
[5:36] coaches, sports organizations,
[5:37] officials and volunteers, who
[5:39] may have witnessed violence
[5:40] against young athletes. This
[5:42] agreement will allow the city
[5:43] and the power municipal sports
[5:45] clubs -- the aquatic club and
[5:48] canoe kayak club -- to obtain
[5:50] personalized consulting services
[5:51] and to be assisted in the
[5:53] development and adaptation of
[5:54] sports safety policies and
[5:57] procedures. Pointe-Claire it's
[5:58] the first city to sign an
[6:00] agreement with Sport'Aide,
[6:01] positioning it as a leader and
[6:04] further demonstrating our city's
[6:05] commitment to maintaining a
[6:06] healthy, safe, harmonious, and
[6:08] inclusive sports and recreation
[6:09] environment. I would like to
[6:11] thank our dynamic sports and
[6:12] recreation team and it's
[6:17] director. This partnership
[6:18] demonstrates our partnership and
[6:20] concern for the quality of
[6:21] services offered to our
[6:23] community. Elections --
[6:27] Comme Excuse me --
[6:28] Vous le savez, déjà nous aurons
[6:30] des élections partielles le 23
[6:32] avril prochain pour le district
[6:35] deux afin d'élire une
[6:36] remplaçante ou un remplaçant
[6:38] pour combler le poste laissé
[6:40] vacant depuis le départ de la
[6:42] conseillère, madame Erin
[6:44] Tedford. Depuis vendredi le dix,
[6:46] mars toutes les informations
[6:47] sont disponibles sur notre site
[6:50] Internet, les dates
[6:56] d'éligibilité débatteurs,
[6:57] l'endroit du vote, les
[6:58] candidats, etc.. N'hésitez pas à
[7:00] consulter le site si vous avez
[7:01] des questions.
[7:02] As you already know, we will
[7:04] have a by-election on April 23rd
[7:06] for district 20 11, -- left by
[7:10] the replacement of -- Erin
[7:13] Tedford. -- it's available on
[7:17] our website. Dates, eligibility
[7:19] of voters, voting location,
[7:21] candidates, it's set to. Do not
[7:23] hesitate to consult the site if
[7:25] you have any questions.
[7:34] >> Adoption of the
[7:35] - Agenda, with changes.
[7:36] Adoption de l'ordre du jour avec
[7:37] changement, le retrait des
[7:42] points The withdrawal of 6.2 et
[7:44] 15.4. 6.2 and 15.4.
[7:46] >> Do I have a mover?
[7:49] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[7:52] district three.
[7:53] >> -- district to.
[7:55] >> All in favour? Okay.
[7:58] 2.1 Proclamer le 17 mai 2023
[7:59] comme étant la journée
[8:00] internationale contre
[8:01] l'homophobie et la transphobie.
[8:06] The claim -- international day
[8:10] against homophobia and
[8:11] transphobia.
[8:14] 3.1 Approuver le procès verbal
[8:15] de la séance ordinaire du 7
[8:16] février 2023.
[8:23] 3.2, violin approve the minutes
[8:24] of the traffic committee meeting
[8:26] of January 24th, 2023.
[8:28] >> Do I have a mover?
[8:31] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[8:32] district three.
[8:34] >> And a seconder?
[8:35] >> -- district, too.
[8:40] >> Question period?
[8:43] Tout le monde comprend les
[8:44] règles? We have
[8:45] A 90 minute limit. And
[8:47] Pointe-Claire citizens first.
[8:49] >> We have a list --
[8:51] >> Oh, yes --
[8:52] >> Do you want to start with the
[8:55] representative of school?
[9:03] >>
[9:04] -- St. Thomas.
[9:10] >> Good evening, I'm Mary Joseph
[9:16] Coutu, principle of -- extremely
[9:18] proud of, along with their
[9:19] teacher
[9:25] Doiyonne -- for safety and
[9:28] security during our drop off in
[9:30] the morning -- it's been pretty
[9:32] hectic and there's a lot of
[9:34] traffic. And they took the
[9:36] initiative to start looking into
[9:38] this and have been working on
[9:40] this project. And before I pass
[9:42] it along to them I have to thank
[9:45] the city of Pointe-Claire,
[9:47] Pointe-Claire security, Mr.
[9:48] Tanguay, and Mr. reshod, who,
[9:50] when we started meeting, they
[9:52] took the time to meet with me,
[9:54] and had been present at the
[9:56] school to really help us and
[9:58] support us. So, I can't thank
[10:02] them enough. So thank you. I
[10:04] have Yves with me, Samantha,
[10:07] Gabriel, and -- Lawrence. They
[10:10] are going to speak to a bit
[10:12] about our project.
[10:15] >> Dear Pointe-Claire City
[10:24] Councillors -- the Pointe-Claire
[10:26] City councillors and Mr. Mayor.
[10:27] Thank you for having us here
[10:28] this evening. The reason we
[10:29] wanted to do this project is
[10:31] because we found that there was
[10:32] a lot of traffic around the
[10:35] school. And it wasn't always
[10:37] safe for staff and students. We
[10:41] felt it was very important to
[10:43] try to find ways to improve the
[10:46] safety around our school.
[10:52] >> The seven classes of
[10:56] secondary to -- working on this
[10:57] for the last few months. In
[10:59] groups of two, we had to come up
[11:01] with some solutions to help fix
[11:04] these problems. We had students
[11:05] stand outside in the morning to
[11:07] monitor and record how many
[11:08] roles were being broken. For
[11:09] example, jaywalking, or not
[11:12] stopping in the right areas was
[11:14] one of the most dangerous ones
[11:15] and we had to prioritize the
[11:18] biggest problems.
[11:20] >> Some of the ideas that we
[11:23] came up with are an extra cross
[11:24] walk, flashing crosswalk button,
[11:27] installation of a sidewalk on
[11:28] the west side of broad view,
[11:30] extra traffic signs, adding a
[11:32] crossing guard, just to name a
[11:33] few. The document that will be
[11:35] submitted lists all of our
[11:39] ideas.
[11:40] >> We really learned a lot
[11:41] working on this project, since
[11:43] it affects the entire school
[11:44] population. And it allowed us to
[11:47] participate directly in this
[11:48] process to make a difference at
[11:50] our school. Again, we thank you
[11:51] for your time and consideration
[11:53] this evening and hope that you
[11:55] will think about some of our
[11:58] ideas to make it safer around
[12:01] St. Thomas High School. Merci
[12:03] [Applause]
[12:04] Beaucoup
[12:05] >>!
[12:06] (applaudissements)
[12:07] Bravo!
[12:09] Thanks very much. Yeah, of
[12:10] course, absolutely.
[12:12] >> I'm Councillor Kelly
[12:14] Thorstad-Cullen, and on behalf
[12:16] of Councillor Homan, I just want
[12:17] to say a huge thank you. It is a
[12:21] wonderful initiative. We did
[12:22] hear some concerns from our
[12:23] residents and we are going to
[12:25] direct them for the link for
[12:27] this evening to see all of your
[12:28] hard work. We greatly appreciate
[12:29] it. Because this was an amazing
[12:31] collaboration and you have taken
[12:32] a great and it should eventually
[12:34] fantastic leadership. So, thank
[12:35] you. Thank you very much.
[12:36] [Applause]
[12:43] >> So, do we move to bury
[12:46] Christiansen? Pointe-Claire
[12:48] citizens association?
[12:51] >> Mr. Paul Atkinson was first.
[12:55] >> Yeah.
[13:02] >> Oh,
[13:03] - O.K., O.K., okay. Sorry about
[13:04] that. C'était pour le...
[13:08] I'm sorry, Mister Mayor, we --
[13:11] proceed with the conversation
[13:15] presentation by Barry Christian
[13:17] --
[13:18] >> --
[13:19] - Non, il n'y a rien là... wow,
[13:21] there goes half la moitié de the
[13:22] room.
[13:23] La Chambre...
[13:24] (rires)
[13:59] >> What an effect on the room,
[14:01] right? Good to go?
[14:04] >> Yep.
[14:05] >> The Pointe-Claire citizens
[14:06] Association would like to
[14:07] recognize the great work of
[14:09] public works this year with snow
[14:10] removal. We put together thank
[14:11] you card that we would like to
[14:13] present on the behalf of the
[14:14] members. This year was
[14:16] extraordinary. The snow drops
[14:17] were falling, the trucks were
[14:19] picking it up before it hit the
[14:20] ground. It's just an awesome job
[14:21] this year. We are really proud
[14:23] and very happy to be living in
[14:25] Pointe-Claire and with the great
[14:27] team that -- behalf. Thank you
[14:29] very much.
[14:30] [Applause]
[14:34] >> So, all credit goes to Erik
[14:38] and Madame Russia low -- they
[14:41] are the magic workers on this
[14:43] project.
[15:14] So, Paul, I think we are ready
[15:17] for you. Apologies for not
[15:18] getting to last meeting. We will
[15:20] make sure it happens this time
[15:23] around.
[15:24] >> Can you hear me okay?
[15:26] >> Yap.
[15:27] >> Okay. Good evening -- spoke
[15:30] to Councillor Tara Stainforth --
[15:32] condos. Instead of being
[15:35] installed a couple of stories
[15:36] high and shining down onto the
[15:37] parking lot, these were
[15:38] installed low to the ground. In
[15:40] trying to cross the parking lot
[15:41] and into the houses on calls
[15:44] them at night -- these lights
[15:45] are incredibly bright to the
[15:46] point where the Black help lines
[15:48] and curtains that I installed
[15:50] are basically insufficient. The
[15:52] light comes into the sides and
[15:55] basically illuminates my
[15:56] bedroom. It also shines in the
[15:59] bathroom in the back of my
[16:00] house, lighting up the top
[16:01] floor. I'm someone who has small
[16:05] children. And all of us are
[16:08] being affected by poor quality
[16:09] of sleep because of this
[16:11] lighting situation. We also have
[16:12] seniors on our street who had
[16:14] the same issue. They are not
[16:16] getting the sleep they need as
[16:18] well. According to the city's
[16:20] bylaw, and I quote, the
[16:21] intensity of a brightness of
[16:23] parking lot lighting shell at no
[16:25] time create a nuisance for the
[16:26] neighbouring properties. This is
[16:30] bylaw -- chapter seven, 7.5.
[16:33] We've spoken to Public Security.
[16:35] But they feel there is nothing
[16:36] to be done for the following
[16:38] reasons. The first is that the
[16:39] distance of the light fixture
[16:41] from our house is. But the bylaw
[16:44] makes no mission mention of
[16:46] distance. And only mentioned the
[16:48] intensity or brightness, which
[16:49] is the problem. And second,
[16:52] public security was told by the
[16:54] condo board that they reduce the
[16:55] brightness of the light. However
[16:57] the residents of Austin have not
[16:59] seen a difference. But public
[17:01] security believes that, because
[17:02] they were told that by the condo
[17:06] board that they made an effort
[17:07] -- they feel that they acted in
[17:10] good faith -- and apparently
[17:11] that's enough to close the case.
[17:15] But if reality, nothing has been
[17:17] done to help us. Any effort to
[17:22] resolve this has been an abject
[17:24] failure. So, as an Austin
[17:28] resident this is just the latest
[17:31] incident asking the City for
[17:32] assistance and being -- so, when
[17:35] the Sotramont project began, we
[17:37] assured our privacy would not be
[17:39] affected. Our privacy is now
[17:42] nonexistent. -- proper foliage
[17:45] between Sotramont properties and
[17:46] our homes. And now with the
[17:48] installation of the one west
[17:49] condos and the people who can
[17:50] stare at directly into our
[17:52] bedroom windows -- we have a
[17:53] ditch that is not only being
[17:55] drowned from mosquitoes, by that
[17:56] flooded last, rain causing
[17:58] significant damage to your
[18:00] residents home. We asked for
[18:01] study to be done to ensure this
[18:03] wouldn't happen again. But the
[18:04] city denied that. And because --
[18:06] last week -- stated that there's
[18:09] an increased chance of flooding
[18:10] this spring due to the amount of
[18:12] snow that's on the ground. As
[18:13] you can, legends causing anxiety
[18:15] for residents, which is --
[18:19] animosity towards the city. So,
[18:20] now we have this lighting
[18:21] situation. But really, that's
[18:22] just the latest problem. So, my
[18:24] first question tonight is, why
[18:26] won't the City respect its own
[18:27] bylaw in regards to the light
[18:28] that is shining directly into
[18:30] our houses?
[18:32] >> Well, this is all news to me,
[18:34] Mister Atkinson, and as you
[18:35] know, I feel for the citizens of
[18:38] Austin big-time. And that can be
[18:41] easily looked into. Can you give
[18:42] photographs or a filament or
[18:43] show the effect of the lighting?
[18:48] So that people don't have to go
[18:49] tonight? Can you give us
[18:50] evidence or show visually?
[18:52] >> --
[19:01] >> Okay.
[19:03] >> As you see, our -- at
[19:06] different times --
[19:07] >> That's what I --
[19:09] >> -- appear less bright.
[19:12] >> Okay. So, when it's at its
[19:13] worst, can you take a picture?
[19:15] So that we can --
[19:17] >> It's basically like somebody
[19:20] parking their car in front of my
[19:21] house and turning their rights
[19:22] on and turning shining them into
[19:25] my house.
[19:26] >> Well, lightning is something
[19:28] that can be solved. -- I've
[19:30] always felt for you guys. I feel
[19:33] it is something that we should
[19:34] be able to look into and it's an
[19:36] easier solution of a lot of the
[19:38] impediments that you guys are up
[19:39] against. I don't see any reason
[19:40] why we can't look into it and
[19:41] tried and better it. I see no
[19:43] reason for that. But
[19:44] >> We have tried. Just for the
[19:45] record, we have tried, we have
[19:47] spoken to Councillor Stainforth.
[19:48] I spoke to Public Security. But
[19:50] it's like nothing is getting
[19:52] resolved and we are still stuck
[19:53] in this same situation.
[19:56] >> Okay.
[19:57] >> May I speak?
[19:59] >> Yes.
[20:00] >> We've been in touch with the
[20:02] condo association. And they had
[20:04] an electrician come in and make
[20:06] alterations to the lights.
[20:09] Unfortunately, as is Mr. Tongaue
[20:18] explained -- essentially told us
[20:20] they will bring us to court. And
[20:22] because the distance doesn't
[20:24] fall within immediate neighbours
[20:28] and all of the immediate
[20:29] neighbours are happy with the
[20:31] lighting situation as is, so we
[20:33] have tried to negotiate with
[20:34] them in order to try and find a
[20:36] solution for everybody rather
[20:38] than play hardball and issue
[20:40] tickets. We have been working
[20:42] with them to reduce the impact
[20:45] of the lighting on those
[20:47] neighbours on -- and with hope
[20:51] that that would help at the
[20:52] situation.
[20:53] >> It hasn't. And by your
[20:54] reasoning, I could set up lights
[20:56] on top of my house and shined
[20:58] them at the condo building at a
[21:00] vacant -- and just say, I'm too
[21:02] far away, you can't do anything
[21:03] about it. And I don't think
[21:04] that's what we should be here
[21:08] for -- here for.
[21:10] >> No, which is why we've been
[21:11] in communication with him on
[21:12] several occasions and we've been
[21:13] sending our inspectors by to
[21:14] check the lighting.
[21:17] That's where the situation is at
[21:19] this point in time. If the mayor
[21:22] has better ideas to collaborate
[21:24] with the inspector, with
[21:29] inspector Tongaue, then for sure
[21:30] we are open to doing whatever we
[21:33] can to resolve the issue. That
[21:35] is our goal. I saw the lights. I
[21:37] have been on Austin. So I know
[21:38] that they are quite bright. Our
[21:40] goal has been to resolve --
[21:43] >> I have offered, anyone, if
[21:45] they want to come to my house
[21:46] and I vacancy with the situation
[21:49] looks at night.
[21:50] >> I was just going to suggest
[21:52] that. I will do that. I will do
[21:54] that, Mr. Atkinson. I will come
[21:57] by and look. I also don't think
[21:59] that litigation should prevent
[22:00] someone from doing the right
[22:01] thing. -- I will come
[22:02] personally.
[22:04] >> Thanks.
[22:05] >> So, my second question
[22:07] tonight. For the past couple of
[22:08] months, councillors have been --
[22:10] for the Fairview product to move
[22:13] forward. But again, they have
[22:14] not done anything to fix the
[22:17] problems that have created for
[22:19] residents on Austin, given that
[22:21] the project done by Sotramont
[22:24] and one west -- so, this miss,
[22:26] ironically started with the
[22:27] public consultation between
[22:28] developers, the city and Austin
[22:30] residents. So, in 2019, the City
[22:33] claimed to be understanding of
[22:34] our concerns. So, they set up a
[22:36] consultation. Because they said
[22:38] they wanted the integration of
[22:40] the Sotramont project to
[22:42] basically accommodate all
[22:43] parties. And when we showed up
[22:45] for the meeting, city officials
[22:47] told us that they weren't
[22:48] getting involved. They basically
[22:49] said, you can plead your case to
[22:51] the developer and see what
[22:52] happens. And what happened was,
[22:54] the developer, essentially,
[22:56] ignored our concerns. And the
[22:57] City turned their backs on us.
[23:00] We asked for contingency plans
[23:01] in case things went awry with
[23:03] the project. And the city said
[23:05] they'd prefer to wait and see
[23:06] what happened. So, when things
[23:08] went wrong, instead of trying to
[23:09] remedy the issues, they ignored
[23:12] us and eventually just started
[23:13] lay bling us as complainers. So,
[23:16] given our experience, we feel
[23:18] that there is no reason to
[23:19] believe that the current public
[23:22] consultations won't roll out the
[23:24] same way. The fact that you
[23:26] chose a room before you knew how
[23:28] many people plan to attend and
[23:29] the fact that discussing Mu2 is
[23:32] off the table is a clear
[23:33] indication that you are
[23:34] intending to use the same tactic
[23:36] that was used on us in 2019.
[23:38] When people point the finger at
[23:39] you later on, you will say, we
[23:41] held a meeting, we did a
[23:43] consultation. And the
[23:44] expression, if only once, shame
[23:46] on me -- that's where I am at
[23:48] right now. It all feels like a
[23:50] sham. So, I don't classify
[23:52] myself as pro or anti
[23:54] development. But if the city is
[23:57] unable to fix the situation that
[23:59] we face on Austin, you have no
[24:01] business even considering a
[24:02] project the size of Cadillac
[24:04] Fairview. Because when issues
[24:06] that affect residents arrive as,
[24:08] you simply don't have the
[24:09] capacity, competency or
[24:10] willingness to resolve them. And
[24:12] if you feel that I'm incorrect,
[24:14] prove me wrong and fix the
[24:16] issues affecting Austin
[24:17] residents.
[24:20] -- quality of life the same way
[24:24] it was prior to the installation
[24:25] of the Sotramont and one west
[24:26] projects. Both the Mayor and
[24:29] Councillor Stainforth who
[24:30] campaigned on a street during
[24:31] the election and said something
[24:32] had to be done about the
[24:34] situation. So a year and a half
[24:36] later all we are hearing is,
[24:39] it's complicated, we are in a
[24:40] state of transition, because
[24:42] Robert Weemaes left, you tell us
[24:44] that there's ongoing
[24:46] negotiations between Sotramont
[24:48] and the city, but no one is
[24:49] providing us any clarity about
[24:50] what's going on. These
[24:52] negotiations are going to impact
[24:53] the people who live adjacent to
[24:55] this projects. The latest -- one
[24:57] of the latest problems on the
[24:59] list is the ditch, which you
[25:00] can't talk about, because you
[25:01] are being sued. It is municipal
[25:05] inertia at its worst. It is all
[25:08] talk and no action. So, my
[25:13] second question tonight, is,
[25:16] what's the city's plan to
[25:17] resolve the issues that the
[25:18] residents on Austin are facing,
[25:20] given the construction of the
[25:22] Greenwich and 1 West projects?
[25:27] -- adjacent to them.
[25:32] >> It's a tough question for me.
[25:34] Because I understand where you
[25:35] are coming from, 100%. Had I had
[25:38] my druthers -- I'm not a big
[25:40] fan, as you know, of that
[25:42] project, and the consequences of
[25:43] it. And I thank you for bringing
[25:46] them up and making them apparent
[25:47] to everybody else in
[25:48] Pointe-Claire who does not
[25:49] really realize what happened in
[25:50] Austin as a result of that
[25:51] project. There is litigation
[25:53] involved, so I can't speak
[25:55] specifically to what we are
[25:56] going to do. I can tell you
[25:59] personally that I really take
[26:04] seriously your comments on
[26:06] consultation. And I agree with
[26:08] you on that. And picking the
[26:11] room and the size -- there are
[26:13] people that aren't getting into
[26:14] it and haven't been allowed to
[26:16] participate because we don't
[26:17] have enough accommodation. That
[26:18] shouldn't be happening. We
[26:19] should let everybody -- my
[26:20] feeling is we should let
[26:22] everybody talk and let everybody
[26:23] speak. That would be my hope.
[26:25] And to make it a fair and
[26:27] effective process, that's the
[26:28] whole point of this exercise.
[26:30] And if it isn't, I hope that the
[26:34] citizens will speak up about if
[26:36] the process is not just, if it
[26:38] is feared in a certain way and
[26:40] harnessed and marshalled or
[26:41] coerced, I would hope the
[26:43] citizens would give us feedback
[26:45] to suggest that that is the
[26:46] case.
[26:47] >> I mean, on social media,
[26:48] people have already started
[26:49] saying that it feels like a bait
[26:50] and switch.
[26:53] >> Well, we have to let it
[26:55] happen first. We can't -- you
[26:58] know, we can't claim it's
[27:00] something before it's happened.
[27:01] But I understand your concerns.
[27:03] I understand what happened in
[27:06] that project. And that project
[27:07] should be held as a beacon of
[27:09] light to everybody with
[27:10] development going forward. And I
[27:13] feel that Pointe-Claire -- not
[27:14] enough of Pointe-Claire truly
[27:16] understands the consequences of
[27:17] that development. I agree with
[27:18] you, 100%, on that.
[27:20] >> But again, why can't we do
[27:21] something to fix this situation
[27:23] before moving forward? We are
[27:24] always looking to the next
[27:25] project. We are not fixing what
[27:29] was, essentially, destroyed.
[27:31] >> We will see this spring. We
[27:35] will know the truth is spring as
[27:36] to how much fixing is required.
[27:39] Basically, the city was saved by
[27:42] Pointe-Claire volunteer rescue
[27:43] last spring, who did a superb
[27:45] job and kept pumps going nonstop
[27:47] through the entire flooding
[27:50] process. And people don't
[27:52] realize how dangerous that was
[27:54] for the city, since citizens of
[27:56] Austin. -- and the equipment
[27:58] they had and they pumping up
[27:59] when and they have. And they
[28:02] saved a disaster and it's not
[28:03] fair to expect them to do that
[28:05] over and over and over again.
[28:07] Nor is it fair to expect that to
[28:09] happen just in the future
[28:11] citizens and -- future projects.
[28:12] And yes, we have to be on that,
[28:13] and we have to prevent it. I'm
[28:16] with you, 100%.
[28:17] >> I agree with you. They did a
[28:20] fantastic job. But it should not
[28:21] have gotten to that --
[28:23] >> I agree. I will be over to
[28:27] see your lights. And I will
[28:30] hopefully keep a careful eye on
[28:32] the public consultation process.
[28:35] And I am listening to all of you
[28:36] and any concerns that anybody
[28:39] expresses, I am your voice, your
[28:41] mouthpiece on that. Because,
[28:43] like you, I share, 100%, your
[28:45] concerns for the prices and
[28:46] whether it is affecting citizen
[28:49] participation. I really, really
[28:50] like that. That is the goal of
[28:52] the exercise. Thanks.
[29:00] So, we are at -- Linda Douette
[29:09] --
[29:10] >> High. I want to talk about
[29:11] the mandate letter attached to
[29:15] the -- about -- about making an
[29:22] in-camera meetings and leading
[29:23] to some consultations with
[29:26] Fairview, to get them -- step
[29:28] out of the ongoing planning
[29:30] program process.
[29:31] And eventually out of the
[29:33] freeze. And the wording of -- in
[29:36] the resolution, as it was
[29:37] passed, says it's a mandate
[29:39] letter that will be attached to
[29:40] it. The mandate letter provided
[29:42] is the only one that exists --
[29:46] the city manager. And she is
[29:48] referring to a letter that was
[29:50] sent from the city manager to
[29:52] Fairview. But the resolution
[29:56] says, the mandate letter, to the
[29:59] city manager, from Council, that
[30:01] is to provide guidelines for the
[30:05] -- we filed with passage of this
[30:07] resolution and the integral to
[30:08] this resolution and that the
[30:09] city manager will update Council
[30:10] as the dialogue advances. When
[30:13] asked for this mandate letter,
[30:15] it was no -- one was able to
[30:16] produce it from the City so, I
[30:22] have two questions. One, when
[30:23] will we see the mandate letter?
[30:25] Because I don't think that the
[30:27] resolution is valid without it.
[30:30] And yet, it was acted on.
[30:32] Because February 3rd, a letter
[30:33] was sent to Fairview. With the
[30:36] city manager saying she had a
[30:37] mandate, which we haven't seen?
[30:39] And that is nice. By then, my
[30:42] question too is, what did
[30:44] Fairview respond to this letter?
[30:46] It's been more than a month. I'm
[30:47] sure you've got some response.
[30:48] What was the response?
[30:51] >> That one first? It was not a
[30:56] positive one. Without getting
[30:58] into specifics, it was not a
[30:59] positive one. I am not sure if I
[31:01] am to speak to it -- I am to
[31:02] speak to it, Madam Thibeault?
[31:07] >> --
[31:08] >> Not a positive one. -- the
[31:11] initiative proposed in the
[31:12] letter.
[31:13] >> Okay. Count me not surprised.
[31:17] So, the mandate letter -- will
[31:19] never see the light of day
[31:21] because it was never produced
[31:22] and doesn't exist?
[31:23] >> Did you try access to
[31:25] information?
[31:26] >> -- the city clerk said, and I
[31:29] quote -- where would be that?
[31:36] Sorry, I lost that piece of
[31:38] paper. Anyway, the city clerk
[31:41] said, the mandate letter
[31:44] provided -- that is, the one
[31:46] provided from our city manager,
[31:47] to Fairview, which is not a
[31:49] mandate letter. It's a letter
[31:50] saying that she has a mandate.
[31:52] Is the only one that exists --
[31:54] in fact, the guidelines from the
[31:55] council to the city manager are
[31:57] included in the mandate letter
[31:58] sent to Cadillac Fairview. Well,
[32:01] that's nice that it's not a
[32:03] mandate letter from City Council
[32:05] to the city manager. So, what is
[32:07] the entire mandate? And is it so
[32:10] going forward? Are there other
[32:12] attempts to make it happen?
[32:13] >> To make what happen, Ms.
[32:20] Douette?
[32:21] >> --
[32:22] >> Apparently, Cadillac Fairview
[32:23] responded in the negative. From
[32:26] my perspective, I've never --
[32:28] I've wanted public consultation
[32:30] and the citizens to determine
[32:32] the future, to specify their
[32:35] version of the City of the
[32:36] future, prior to doing any
[32:39] negotiations with any
[32:40] developers. I wanted to hear the
[32:42] citizen voice first. So, that
[32:43] has always been my preference.
[32:45] This might actually help. Who
[32:47] knows? It might be serendipity.
[32:50] >> Okay. Is this initiative now
[32:51] did in the water?
[32:53] >> Nothing is dead in the water.
[32:54] It's an ongoing process. You
[32:56] never know what is going to
[32:57] happen, going forward.
[32:59] >> Okay. So, then --
[33:01] >> You are saying that we need
[33:02] to find a letter that mandate
[33:04] the letter?
[33:05] >> We need to find the mandate.
[33:06] Without the mandate, the
[33:08] resolution is not valid. If it's
[33:09] not valid, why did our city
[33:11] manager act on it? I mean, she
[33:12] should not have gone forward
[33:14] without a mandate letter. And as
[33:15] she went forward without a
[33:17] mandate letter, it's kind of
[33:19] ridiculous. The resolution says
[33:22] the mandate letter is integral
[33:23] to the resolution. It's an
[33:26] integral part. It's an integral
[33:27] part. Where is it?
[33:30] >> Okay.
[33:31] >> The whole wording of
[33:33] everything is a real dogs
[33:34] breakfast. That's a technical
[33:35] term.
[33:38] >> The resolution is the mandate
[33:40] from the City Council.
[33:42] >> Well, that cannot possibly
[33:43] be. It cannot possibly be
[33:45] because the letter contains
[33:47] facts and suggestions not
[33:49] included in the resolution. It
[33:51] says other things that the
[33:53] resolution didn't say. So,
[33:54] therefore, that's not possible.
[33:57] The resolution is not the
[33:58] mandate letter. It's not
[33:59] possible. The two don't contain
[34:01] the same set of facts. They are
[34:02] not the same wording. And the
[34:05] resolution refers to a mandate
[34:06] letter to be sent from the City
[34:07] Council to the city manager. A
[34:10] mandate letter doesn't say, this
[34:12] resolution is a mandate letter,
[34:13] is the mandate to the city
[34:14] manager. It talks about a
[34:16] separate letter, which must
[34:20] exist -- or, how could the
[34:21] resolution be dealt with?
[34:27] It's kind of amateur hour.
[34:30] >> Well, I wouldn't phrase it
[34:31] that way. But but perhaps
[34:33] there's a letter to be found.
[34:35] And perhaps it can be revisited.
[34:37] Who knows? But --
[34:41] >> Well, I would like assurances
[34:42] either that the Council
[34:43] withdraws the resolution, or
[34:44] puts it into a proper form.
[34:48] >> If I will, Mr. Thomas?
[34:51] >> Yes, go ahead.
[34:53] >> I just want to make sure we
[34:54] are on the same page with Mrs.
[35:00] Douette. -- there is no letter
[35:03] from Council to Mrs. -- the
[35:04] mandate given by the council was
[35:07] in the resolution explaining
[35:10] what was the future --
[35:12] >> That's nice. That's nice.
[35:15] >> Ms. Douette --
[35:18] >> -- the reality. And the
[35:22] resolution is perfectly legal.
[35:25] >> Well, the fact is, the
[35:28] resolution refers to a separate
[35:29] document. It doesn't say that
[35:31] the resolution is the mandate.
[35:32] It says that there is a mandate
[35:35] letter that will be filed and
[35:38] that will be from the City
[35:40] Council to the city manager.
[35:43] >> --
[35:44] >> It refers to a separate
[35:45] letter. It does not say that the
[35:48] resolution is the mandate.
[35:49] >> I -- a bit further with you
[35:52] about this topic.
[35:54] >> Thank you, Ms. Douette, your
[35:57] intervention was most
[35:58] illuminating.
[36:00] >> Thank you.
[36:03] >> Susan Weaver?
[36:16] >> Susan Weaver, Pointe-Claire.
[36:17] A little more basic question --
[36:19] this is a concern to me as a
[36:21] taxpayer and as a senior citizen
[36:22] on a fixed income. In May 2022,
[36:28] you allocated $500,000 to the
[36:31] reserve for legal fees. How many
[36:34] lawsuits have been filed against
[36:36] our city? And will this reserve
[36:39] cover all the lawsuits and legal
[36:41] fees?
[36:42] >> Good question. Madam
[36:43] Thibault?
[36:46] >> I don't have the answer --
[36:48] but I will provide you with the
[36:50] right information, Mrs. Ms.
[36:52] Weaver, but I don't have the
[36:55] right information right now.
[36:56] >> Okay.
[36:57] >> I can easily -- the
[37:00] information, but not now.
[37:01] >> Yes, I understand. Okay. I
[37:03] think it's important, probably
[37:04] -- well, for me, and to all
[37:06] taxpayers, to know these things.
[37:08] >> Yeah, of course.
[37:10] >> Okay. Basic?
[37:11] >> The lawyers -- if I could
[37:13] intervene -- legal protection is
[37:14] there to protect the citizens.
[37:16] So, it's quite a worthwhile
[37:18] investment. It protects the
[37:20] interests, financially, and
[37:23] otherwise of Pointe-Claire.
[37:25] >> -- okay. And Mr. Thomas,
[37:31] you've made claims, most
[37:33] recently, in the media, as to
[37:36] most and sleep populated -- and
[37:38] vacant apartments or condos.
[37:40] When you get your statistics
[37:41] from?
[37:43] >> I never made any such
[37:45] comments, Ms. Weaver. Do you
[37:47] have them? I never said anything
[37:49] like that.
[37:50] >> You said it on CJAD.
[37:54] >> No, I didn't say that on
[37:57] CJAD. -- do you have a
[37:58] transcript? Because -- I'm just
[38:04] wondering. --
[38:05] >> I heard it on --
[38:07] >> If you have a quote. Innuendo
[38:10] but no actual evidence --
[38:24] >> Nasser el-Dhabi?
[38:28] >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor and
[38:31] City Council. I hope you are
[38:32] doing well. I'm always facing
[38:36] the problem, really, or causing
[38:37] a problem. As you hear everybody
[38:43] talking about -- the kids can
[38:44] hear about the traffic --
[38:45] school, and everything, all the
[38:49] traffic. -- he knows about all
[38:52] the traffic, but he ignore all
[38:54] of that and --
[38:56] >> Excuse me? That's false. You
[38:57] are making an assumption and
[39:01] false statements -- I think nor
[39:03] the traffic? Thank you.
[39:06] >> You ignore the traffic and --
[39:09] with Cadillac Fairview. That's
[39:10] what I meant.
[39:11] >> Perhaps Mr.
[39:19] el-Dhabi -- maybe proceed with
[39:23] the point without making it
[39:25] personal.
[39:26] >> I'm not making it personal.
[39:28] I'm always facing what causing
[39:30] the trouble. Trouble for
[39:33] Pointe-Claire -- what's
[39:34] happened, as you are seeing now,
[39:38] the -- Cadillac fair view don't
[39:42] -- here anymore. Why? -- City
[39:45] Council representing them and --
[39:47] >> You can't --
[39:50] >> Point of order --
[39:51] >> -- Cadillac Fairview. They've
[39:53] been voted to represent the --
[39:55] Pointe-Claire
[39:56] >> Mr. el-Dhabi --
[40:01] >> -- about what is going on --
[40:03] >> Mr. el-Dhabi, if you could
[40:08] again make a point about --
[40:12] >> I'm not accusing. I'm saying
[40:14] the reality.
[40:16] >> Mr. el-Dhabi -- you are
[40:21] making statements that can be
[40:22] proven and insinuating things
[40:25] that --
[40:26] >> Okay, now I'm asking the City
[40:28] Council from the previous
[40:30] administration, do you have any
[40:32] relationship with Cadillac
[40:33] Fairview as you did in business
[40:37] or somebody from -- a member of
[40:41] -- family working for Cadillac
[40:42] Fairview? -- or investing in
[40:45] this company? Because
[40:46] Pointe-Claire, we have a lot of
[40:47] trouble. We heard the kids what
[40:49] you say, we heard the lady what
[40:51] she said, we -- owe the project
[40:53] but did all the flooding. And
[40:57] you -- continue to just try and
[40:58] build more and more. So, I'm
[41:01] asking the six city councillor,
[41:03] what exactly is the relationship
[41:05] but with Cadillac Fairview?
[41:07] That's -- my question. --
[41:14] represent all the -- Mr. --
[41:24] Colin -- represent -- what
[41:28] Fairview? Who can answer that?
[41:30] >> Point of order -- citizens
[41:33] are not supposed to go down the
[41:34] list and ask councillors
[41:36] questions.
[41:37] >> I'm asking the mayor to ask
[41:38] all of them.
[41:39] >> Mr. el-Dhabi -- he can ask if
[41:45] you have an opinion on
[41:46] something? Can he knocked?
[41:48] >> -- answer
[41:49] >> -- questions are directed to
[41:52] the Mayor.
[41:53] >> Okay, but he's asking of
[41:54] Council.
[41:56] >> Just to get to your first
[41:58] point, Mr. el-Dhabi -- I think
[42:00] you are trying to make reference
[42:01] to the fact that the -- makes
[42:03] traffic around the school. That
[42:05] would have been a really good
[42:07] point to just make like that,
[42:09] rather than sitting here or --
[42:13] >> Mr. Mayor, I see the two
[42:17] minute time. But you are not
[42:20] listening. -- too many times
[42:22] since last year -- seeing what
[42:26] too many times -- sorry, Mr.
[42:27] el-Dhabi --
[42:35] -- all the folks at home. -- you
[42:39] have the swimming pool. You have
[42:41] the high school and the -- so,
[42:43] we know of what is going on --
[42:46] the traffic looks like. I see it
[42:48] all the time but nobody
[42:51] listening and project after
[42:52] project that's what you care
[42:55] about. I am not --
[42:57] >> That's an interesting point
[43:01] -- that's a more interesting
[43:03] preamble than what you started.
[43:05] Now, you have a question to
[43:07] follow up with that?
[43:08] >> I said, what is the
[43:10] relationship between the six
[43:11] city council from the previous
[43:13] administration, when they
[43:14] calling all of us the problem,
[43:16] what's the relationship between
[43:18] them and Cadillac?
[43:20] >> Point of order. Two schools
[43:24] being combined at St. Thomas
[43:25] does not have anything to do
[43:28] with development at all. I do
[43:30] not want to be asked about that.
[43:32] >> That's debatable. -- he's
[43:33] asking you about traffic in a
[43:35] school zone. That's a valid
[43:38] concern.
[43:39] >> You are not --
[43:42] >> You're not going to get an
[43:43] answer by --
[43:44] >> -- causing the trouble.
[43:49] Honesty, trust, integrity -- and
[43:56] that is the second portion is --
[44:04] about the increase the value of
[44:08] our house 55%.
[44:11] They increase the tax, city tax,
[44:16] 16 and a half percent. Why?
[44:19] Because of COVID? 19? Everybody
[44:23] looking for houses, the houses
[44:25] went up. The mortgage was 1.4,
[44:32] or 5.5%, maximum 2%. My daughter
[44:38] bought a house for 1.5%. And now
[44:43] the mortgage is over 6% and the
[44:48] House is valued 30% and more and
[44:50] keep going down because the
[44:55] recession going on in the
[44:56] inflation and so the value of
[44:57] the house went down, so what is
[45:00] are you going to do now?
[45:06] Compensate for taxes we're
[45:08] praying now 16 and a half
[45:10] percent?
[45:11] >> 15.9 I think in
[45:14] Pointe-Claire.
[45:15] >> I get 16 point. Five
[45:16] >> But you might -- have
[45:17] >> The increase the house value
[45:21] 55%.
[45:22] >> A couple of things. It's not
[45:26] as --, as you are probably very
[45:28] well aware. The interest rates
[45:29] are the Bank of Canada, so that
[45:33] beyond our jurisdiction as well.
[45:40] The rate of the evaluations of
[45:41] houses is determined by the
[45:44] frequency of economic exchange,
[45:46] buying and selling, in your
[45:48] area. So if your area has been
[45:50] active on the real estate market
[45:51] it has an impact on the housing
[45:54] value. That is a formula used.
[45:58] Mr. -- you're here to answer
[46:01] that during the next period.
[46:02] >> On the website.
[46:04] >> Yes, it's on the website.
[46:05] >> But this was last year. Now
[46:06] it's down. And keep going down
[46:09] because the mortgage --
[46:10] >> That's the Bank of Canada,
[46:11] sir. The interest rate is not
[46:14] controlled by --
[46:15] >> But the house value is going
[46:16] down. It keeps going down now.
[46:20] [Inaudible]
[46:23] >> He had she has two until
[46:25] April 30th to appeal the value
[46:26] of her house.
[46:27] >> Yeah, guys, this is not a
[46:31] discussion at the mic. Did you
[46:34] have a question, mister Al
[46:37] Dhabi?
[46:38] >> Sorry, what I'm saying, when
[46:39] we go up we increase the city
[46:44] tax. But if it goes down you
[46:48] decrease the city tax. That is
[46:50] the fairway.
[46:51] >> That's not my understanding
[46:53] of how it works. I don't think
[46:55] it has ever work that way in the
[46:57] history of taxation. But the
[47:00] rate is determined by the
[47:02] frequency of economic activity
[47:03] in your district, and that's how
[47:05] the rate is determined. It's the
[47:07] Agglo that determines that rate.
[47:09] Not us. We have nothing to do
[47:11] with. That zero. Same with
[47:14] fluoridation. To anticipate the
[47:15] next, another question. We do
[47:17] not, as a city, have control
[47:19] over that.
[47:20] >> And we able to do anything
[47:22] about this? Who is controlling
[47:24] it at least?
[47:26] >> I have met with the
[47:28] association of suburban mayors
[47:29] and we have had serious meetings
[47:31] about how to deal with the
[47:32] increases that we received from
[47:34] the agglomeration council, and
[47:36] we are strategizing as we speak.
[47:38] It's on my Facebook page. You
[47:40] can follow the meetings. We are
[47:41] well aware of that. All of the
[47:44] cities are aware of that. We are
[47:46] trying to work out strategy so
[47:48] we can have some control over
[47:52] tax increases on our
[47:53] municipalities.
[47:54] >> My comment is --
[47:55] >> But there's a couple
[47:57] questions there, Mister Al Dhabi
[48:01] so, I think you're almost done.
[48:02] To have the final question?
[48:04] >> Yes.
[48:05] >> I had the two but --
[48:06] >> Yes I think you've had to.
[48:08] >> Every time I come to speak,
[48:11] the leader of Cadillac Fairview,
[48:13] they leave the room.
[48:14] >> They're not leaders of
[48:16] Cadillac Fairview, Mr. Al Dhabi.
[48:21] >> Kelly -- I know. I'm saying.
[48:23] Please, thank you very much. Mr.
[48:25] Al Dhabi you have no evidence or
[48:28] proof of that. We can't say it
[48:30] at the microphone. You literally
[48:33] can't. It's simply wrong. You
[48:36] can't accuse people of something
[48:37] -- I
[48:38] >> Prove it to you, Mister
[48:39] Mayor.
[48:40] >> No, I don't want you to prove
[48:41] it, Mister Al Dhabi. We are
[48:43] done. That's it. We are good.
[48:45] That's all, thank you.
[48:47] >> District won the elect
[48:49] somebody really honest and
[48:51] trust, not from the previous
[48:53] administration, somebody fresh
[48:56] like -- and --.
[48:59] >> Is that a question or is that
[49:00] a political preference? Okay,
[49:03] Mr. Al Dhabi, thank you very
[49:04] much for your time, sir.
[49:05] >> Thank you, God bless you all.
[49:07] And working for the citizens
[49:10] that elect you not the
[49:13] developer. Thank you.
[49:17] >> Lynn Conway?
[49:28] >> Good evening. The topic was
[49:31] about identification so there
[49:32] was an article last week about
[49:36] serious issues add the --
[49:39] general hospital including six
[49:40] patients. I'm assuming everybody
[49:44] heard about it. Especially for
[49:47] the councillors that did the
[49:49] resolution, the Cadillac
[49:51] Fairview resolution, why did not
[49:53] more concerned about our health?
[49:55] This is very serious. The
[49:57] lakeshore General Hospital is
[49:59] understaffed, why are we
[50:00] bringing in more people here?
[50:02] Why are we giving permits to
[50:05] build thousands of more units?
[50:06] Bringing in thousands of more
[50:08] people in the city while there
[50:10] is a crisis at the hospital?
[50:14] >> Is that --
[50:15] >> I know it's a provincial
[50:18] affair. It's under provincial
[50:20] jurisdiction, provincial
[50:23] governments, however, when they
[50:25] want something enough to do a
[50:26] resolution to get what they
[50:27] want, why was there no push, the
[50:33] provincial government for what
[50:34] we need before we bring in new
[50:36] people here and if we can't have
[50:38] a proper hospital and proper
[50:40] staff than it's not give permits
[50:42] to use build more buildings. I
[50:45] think it's the antithetical
[50:46] thing to do.
[50:47] >> Is that your question?
[50:48] >> Yes. Why are we not
[50:53] contributing York your
[50:54] counterpart at the provincial
[50:55] level to get more staff
[50:56] intellectual General Hospital?
[50:57] >> It's been a problem for a
[50:58] long time, hasn't? It expansion
[51:00] of the emergency room at
[51:02] lakeshore has been on the books
[51:03] for almost as long as the jack
[51:06] bizarre extension. It doesn't
[51:08] seem to be happening and it's a
[51:11] definite issue, and we've had
[51:13] other people get up to the
[51:14] microphone with the same point.
[51:15] I think the valid point. And I
[51:17] think that bringing through new
[51:19] residents into one area without
[51:22] expansion on the hospital system
[51:25] is a real problem and you can
[51:28] talk about expansions elsewhere
[51:31] but it's nonetheless a serious
[51:34] concern and one we should take
[51:36] seriously and not to mention in
[51:38] restructuring schools and
[51:39] recreational facilities and
[51:41] other services that new citizens
[51:43] bring to a city. And so both
[51:46] seriously absolutely's health
[51:49] and it will, I think, I can't
[51:51] see how that problem is
[51:54] avoidable. I think it's a real
[51:56] issue and, you raise a good one.
[51:57] And in the provision of health
[51:59] care, in light of hugely
[52:02] expanding citizenry, is a huge
[52:03] issue. And yes, the staffing
[52:07] situation and how hospitals are
[52:08] running and health in general is
[52:10] beyond our control. It's
[52:12] provincial and mostly
[52:14] jurisdiction. However, we can
[52:17] control the densification of the
[52:19] cities around our health care.
[52:21] From my perspective, I think
[52:23] your point is a valid one.
[52:25] >> Okay, so, anybody worried
[52:29] about densification, urban
[52:30] sprawl, so the building the
[52:32] hospital in Danielle void Ray,
[52:34] let them build a more unit over
[52:36] there. They'll have more access
[52:40] to the hospital over there.
[52:42] >> You are saying that --
[52:45] >> Instead of bringing more
[52:46] people here why don't we bring
[52:49] them where the hospital will be
[52:51] built? Health care is important
[52:53] these days.
[52:54] >> So are you saying urban
[52:55] sprawl will follow the provision
[52:57] of health care? People will move
[52:59] according -- to
[53:00] >> Its my suggestion.
[53:01] >> Interesting.
[53:03] >> Why not? If we can fix it
[53:07] here, they can go build towers
[53:14] Indian.
[53:15] >> It might happen, who knows?
[53:21] Maya
[53:22] >> My other question would have
[53:24] been about the Cadillac Fairview
[53:27] resolution and there was a lot
[53:28] of discussion at the February
[53:31] meeting and I agree with what
[53:33] Mr. to which was saying earlier.
[53:35] So I think the question should
[53:36] have been directed more to --
[53:39] because you were the in skin
[53:40] instigator of the resolution
[53:41] when there was all this talk
[53:45] about -- kid else about it? Did
[53:47] any Councillors sign a mandate
[53:48] letter? Why was there such talk
[53:51] about the mandate letter? Can
[53:52] you answer that question?
[53:55] >> It's on his watch.
[53:58] >> Pardon?
[54:00] >> You instigated the care the
[54:02] Cadillac Fairview resolution. It
[54:04] talked about a letter. Did you
[54:06] draft a letter as well? Didn't
[54:08] Councillor signed letter?
[54:09] >> The council is not
[54:10] responsible for the director for
[54:12] the administration of the City,
[54:13] direct responsibility for that
[54:15] is Mayor, and once you passed
[54:19] ask Mayor your questions.
[54:21] >> Did a lot of, talked a lot of
[54:23] promises, while making promises
[54:25] if you can't fulfill them?
[54:29] >> Ms. Conway if I could speak
[54:31] to the comment that I find
[54:33] astonishing. The resolution was
[54:37] proposed against my wishes. I
[54:40] put my veto on it and I did
[54:43] everything I could on my watch
[54:46] to prevent it, however have not
[54:49] having power to stop it is
[54:50] someone my fault, kind of a
[54:54] preposterous proposal.
[54:55] Eventually the mayor has no
[54:57] vote. So something is proposed
[55:00] and voted on, the mayor has no
[55:02] vote, so it's not on his or her
[55:05] watch if they're outvoted and a
[55:08] resolution is raised, which it
[55:10] was, against my wishes, I did
[55:12] not want that resolution yet it
[55:14] happened. How, or somehow, am I
[55:16] responsible for it? I find it
[55:18] quite an astonishing proposal.
[55:19] You're
[55:20] >> Not responsible for the
[55:21] resolution, Mister Mayor. Once
[55:23] Council has resolved that it can
[55:26] actually happen it's your duty
[55:27] in your responsibility to effect
[55:29] it. That is all.
[55:30] >> To affect the resolution? No
[55:32] it isn't. No it isn't. It is
[55:34] implemented by the
[55:36] administration.
[55:37] >> So you have no responsibility
[55:39] --
[55:40] >> Councillor Cowan, first of
[55:41] all, a question period is for
[55:43] the citizens, as I told you
[55:45] before, with your repeated,
[55:48] excuse me, she is there to ask a
[55:50] question and then dealing with
[55:52] it. Okay.
[55:53] >> The question is, in the
[55:56] resolution there was talk about
[55:57] the mandate letter, so the
[56:00] councillor that instigated the
[56:02] resolution should know, should
[56:03] be the one that answers about
[56:06] miss Dwight's question that she
[56:07] asked earlier. I don't see an
[56:10] answer coming, so that's my
[56:12] question.
[56:13] >> Okay. Thank you. And
[56:16] apparently it somehow my
[56:18] responsibility even though I
[56:21] fundamentally wholeheartedly
[56:22] disagree with it. That's quite
[56:24] interesting, Councillor Cowan.
[56:27] Okay. Sandra Mackay?
[56:41] . Okay, Mister --. Good
[56:47] >> Evening. I am the leader of a
[56:52] climate action group. As part of
[56:59] -- one of the things we do was
[57:01] outreach to schools and I had
[57:02] the privilege to go to three
[57:06] grade five classes at
[57:08] Pointe-Claire elementary and as
[57:09] a result of my desire to see
[57:10] this following letter from the
[57:12] grade five teachers that will
[57:13] give you Mister Mayor saying
[57:15] dear mayor Tim Thomas the,
[57:19] students of the -- elementary
[57:21] school wanted to give you the
[57:22] green hearts as our unit on how
[57:24] the world works, and -- Anne of
[57:28] -- visitors are class to visit
[57:32] actions we could take to
[57:34] mitigate climate change. The
[57:36] student ask wish to I'd on their
[57:39] beliefs and -- particularly the
[57:42] Fairview forest. We will hope
[57:43] you will look through these
[57:44] kinds of consider the messages.
[57:46] That's from Miss Leah different
[57:49] ski and -- I. What we'd all
[57:50] harsh to you, there are so many,
[57:53] but many are touching and
[57:55] beautiful. When my the students
[57:57] and I feel like I'm their voice
[57:59] this evening and so some of the
[58:04] hearts were point parts were
[58:05] addressed madame La Plante. Do
[58:07] you Mister Mayor, please protect
[58:09] the Fairview forest time in this
[58:11] concern of all the animals in
[58:12] the forest., The hawk, in the
[58:14] brown snake. The brown snake is
[58:16] endangered. I wish you would
[58:18] take action and stop Fairview
[58:19] from destroying the forest. I
[58:21] wish you could be like -- the
[58:23] who stopped the terracotta for
[58:24] us from getting destroyed.
[58:26] Please protect Fairview forest
[58:27] and make it like the terracotta
[58:35] park. We unclassifiable two
[58:36] would like to save Fairview
[58:38] forest please stop door for a
[58:40] stationary danger narrative in
[58:41] the forest and it is such a
[58:43] beautiful place trees are
[58:45] important and they take carbon
[58:47] out of the air. Save the forest
[58:49] so please protect our force
[58:50] because we are worried for the
[58:55] future and kids futures and
[58:56] defend the force to make a
[58:58] walking path. Dear anyone who
[58:59] will listen, fairy shrimp, red
[59:02] shoulder talks, and even the
[59:03] endangered species of brown
[59:05] snake, they all live in Fairview
[59:08] forest please protect Fairview
[59:11] forest. I'm scared of greenhouse
[59:15] gases. Please stop cutting
[59:17] trees. Stop cutting and start
[59:18] planting. Deforestation is
[59:19] wrong. Please save the forest.
[59:22] I'm a grade five student debt
[59:24] can clear elementary. Please say
[59:27] Fairview forest. Brown snake,
[59:30] very shrimp. Help, help, help.
[59:32] Cutting down trees is hurting
[59:34] the environment, and increasing
[59:37] climate change. Fairview forest
[59:38] is an example of that. With so
[59:40] many endangered species like the
[59:43] brown snake, also trees help
[59:45] deal with pesky carbon, so we
[59:47] need that. Please help forests.
[59:49] Please protect Fairview forest.
[59:51] I might be young, but I have a
[59:53] whole life to live. If you cut
[59:54] down all the trees, there will
[59:56] be no future for me, for my
[59:58] children, and my children's
[59:59] children. Protect all the
[1:00:01] animals, such as the red
[1:00:03] shouldered hawk. We should
[1:00:05] protect trees and ecosystems
[1:00:06] because trees absorb carbon.
[1:00:08] Also, forests are home to lots
[1:00:10] of animals and biodiversity.
[1:00:12] Please help protect all forests.
[1:00:14] Climate change is taking over.
[1:00:16] Temperatures are rising. If you
[1:00:18] want to help, don't just say it.
[1:00:21] Do it. The children at clear
[1:00:24] Point School are counting on
[1:00:25] you. I do believe in the
[1:00:27] political process, and I'm
[1:00:29] optimistic that all of you here
[1:00:32] caring about the citizens of
[1:00:33] Pointe-Claire and want to do
[1:00:34] what's right for the children.
[1:00:36] So Mister Mayor, and
[1:00:38] councillors, will you please
[1:00:40] respond to the children of clear
[1:00:43] point elementary? Will you let
[1:00:44] them know that you have heard
[1:00:45] them and will address their
[1:00:47] pleas for action on climate
[1:00:49] change and protection of
[1:00:50] Fairview forest?
[1:00:53] >> Thank you. We have a
[1:00:55] responsibility for other
[1:00:57] people's future, and that really
[1:01:00] should weigh extremely heavily
[1:01:02] on us going forward with her
[1:01:06] policy. I find fascinating in
[1:01:11] the debate about densification
[1:01:15] and urban sprawl that the logic
[1:01:20] for densification is the
[1:01:21] preventer of urban sprawl, yet
[1:01:22] it also entails eradicating all
[1:01:25] green spaces in urban settings,
[1:01:27] which seems completely
[1:01:29] counterproductive to me. So I
[1:01:31] hear them loud and clear,
[1:01:33] myself, personally. Others in
[1:01:35] this council may feel otherwise.
[1:01:37] I think living in cities where
[1:01:39] you've gone up to the moon and
[1:01:41] live in little units and you
[1:01:43] sleep in a coffin sized bed and
[1:01:45] you go down a tube is maybe not
[1:01:48] the quality of life everyone is
[1:01:49] looking forward to and they we
[1:01:51] may have to find another way to
[1:01:53] Lee live, ecologically, which
[1:01:54] gives us the quality of life
[1:01:56] where you we have green space in
[1:01:58] our urban settings and we can
[1:02:00] enjoy green space in our daily
[1:02:02] existence, in urban settings.
[1:02:03] It's been proven to be
[1:02:06] psychologically necessary for
[1:02:07] our existence. So the
[1:02:09] eradication of urban green
[1:02:10] spaces, for me, is a complete
[1:02:12] and utter foolhardy proposition.
[1:02:15] But going forward, who knows
[1:02:17] where we will end up? But I
[1:02:18] concur with what they are
[1:02:20] saying. I can only reinforce
[1:02:22] what they are saying and say
[1:02:24] that terracotta was a result of
[1:02:25] a group of very determined young
[1:02:28] people who didn't take no for an
[1:02:30] answer. So I encourage them to
[1:02:31] do the same.
[1:02:33] >> Thank you very much. I would
[1:02:35] like to give you the hearts.
[1:02:37] >> The hearts, okay.
[1:02:39] [Laughter]
[1:02:40] Do I get them? That's a real
[1:02:44] bonus. Okay. Sure.
[1:02:54] [Inaudible]
[1:03:02] [Applause]
[1:03:05] Maria Benner vetoes?
[1:03:27] >> Good evening, Mayor and.
[1:03:31] Council my name is Maria
[1:03:32] Benivitas, and I am death. I am
[1:03:33] part -- of Pointe-Claire. I come
[1:03:35] to speak to you today for --, a
[1:03:42] professional in trumpeter who
[1:03:43] understands I interpreting
[1:03:44] needs. She's an interpreter who
[1:03:46] can form of to -- better support
[1:03:49] my. Signs American sign
[1:03:51] language. Most interpreters
[1:03:54] interpret either with American
[1:03:57] sign language or -- or
[1:03:59] alliteration, which is basically
[1:04:01] through -- but in my situation I
[1:04:04] use both and it has worked for
[1:04:06] the very well. I come here today
[1:04:10] in response to the recent
[1:04:11] announcement that interpretation
[1:04:13] services for Québec's death
[1:04:16] anglophone community are being
[1:04:17] cut. When Friday March 3rd,
[1:04:20] 2020, three I received them who
[1:04:29] originator, -- metropolitan. The
[1:04:32] agency that manages the quest
[1:04:36] for interpreters for deaf and
[1:04:37] for clients and businesses in
[1:04:40] the island of Montréal. Then for
[1:04:42] me the booking request for
[1:04:44] interpreters is on hold
[1:04:47] indefinitely. -- communicated to
[1:04:49] be that the CC as Eminem is
[1:04:52] suspending the anglophone
[1:04:54] American sign language
[1:04:56] interpretation program. As they
[1:04:57] have run out of money. As of now
[1:05:05] the CCSMN will only address
[1:05:07] certain situations such as if a
[1:05:09] deaf person has to go to a
[1:05:12] hospital emergency room for a
[1:05:13] medical or middle of crisis.
[1:05:15] Know that emergency situations
[1:05:17] were not clearly defined in
[1:05:19] writing. Interpreters for the
[1:05:22] death or any central service.
[1:05:24] They break down barriers and
[1:05:26] promote understanding between
[1:05:27] deaf and hearing people and play
[1:05:30] an important role in helping to
[1:05:32] ease the complexity of
[1:05:33] isolation. Communication
[1:05:36] matters. The death -- community
[1:05:41] and wins were by another agency
[1:05:44] --. The interpreters have
[1:05:46] received their own funding.
[1:05:49] While the CCSMN has been
[1:05:51] providing services for the
[1:05:54] anglophone since 2011. Under the
[1:05:57] management of the -- today.
[1:06:00] Given without warning, members
[1:06:02] of the anglophone deaf community
[1:06:05] have now left without
[1:06:06] interpreters. Those interpreters
[1:06:08] are not being paid, including my
[1:06:10] own interpreter. This is not
[1:06:12] acceptable. I have been using
[1:06:16] interpreters since my last year
[1:06:17] of high school. This service is
[1:06:19] invaluable. It is -- it
[1:06:24] overcomes barriers to
[1:06:25] communication, especially if I
[1:06:27] am among a group of people. A
[1:06:31] classroom on the last meeting --
[1:06:36] I use interpreter for medical
[1:06:39] appointments and municipal
[1:06:41] meetings such as City workshop
[1:06:42] that they attended in December.
[1:06:44] And this one that is going to be
[1:06:46] presented tomorrow. Tomorrow
[1:06:49] night. For I will see this --
[1:06:53] this allows me to become more
[1:06:55] involved in my community
[1:06:57] participation other than be
[1:06:59] isolated. Now that the service
[1:07:03] is temporarily suspended until
[1:07:06] they have money, I have increase
[1:07:09] the stress as to how I will be
[1:07:10] able to understand, much less
[1:07:12] communicate. Suspending this
[1:07:16] service for the deaf anglophone
[1:07:18] community in jeopardy. My
[1:07:19] understanding is that the board
[1:07:24] of the CCSMM F suspended the
[1:07:30] service and the CCSMM should be
[1:07:32] responsible for the funds from
[1:07:33] the government. Have to apply
[1:07:35] for the funds. So the fact that
[1:07:37] this has happened even more then
[1:07:40] once the issue right now when to
[1:07:42] apply for more funding. This is
[1:07:45] been going on for more or less
[1:07:47] 20 years. This means
[1:07:51] mismanagement has to stop. I
[1:07:54] would like to respect finally
[1:07:56] ask you to help support me and
[1:07:59] as the anglophone community to
[1:08:01] sending in their support and
[1:08:02] asking for solutions to our
[1:08:06] minister of -- the -- relations
[1:08:10] and English speaking Director.
[1:08:12] So the committee action. I would
[1:08:16] ask for an inquiry into this
[1:08:17] matter. If you like to ask me
[1:08:19] questions or ask my interpreter
[1:08:23] for the information, please do
[1:08:24] so. I am more than eager to show
[1:08:26] you how this means of
[1:08:29] communication system works for
[1:08:30] the deaf community. Thank you,
[1:08:32] Mister Mayor and Council members
[1:08:34] for listening to me, for your
[1:08:36] support and cooperation.
[1:08:40] >> Thank you. I applaud your
[1:08:43] intervention. I surprised and
[1:08:48] I'm intrigued by the, I think
[1:08:50] there's a difference between the
[1:08:51] provision of services for
[1:08:53] francophones and anglophones and
[1:08:56] that I find astonishing. I hope
[1:08:58] that's not the case. I don't
[1:09:01] know much and I'm not informed
[1:09:04] as to the specifics of this
[1:09:07] issue but I think that that
[1:09:10] obviously is not a good thing if
[1:09:13] that's the case. I would also
[1:09:15] like to, if you could send me or
[1:09:17] document the value of
[1:09:20] interpretation to the quality of
[1:09:21] life and to that of your peers
[1:09:24] that would be really
[1:09:25] illuminating from me. If I am to
[1:09:28] draft a letter, I'd love to be
[1:09:30] informed on it so that it can be
[1:09:33] a good one. And my other
[1:09:35] suggestion, it's a provincial
[1:09:37] issue. Have you spoken to the
[1:09:42] emanate, because Greg I'm sure
[1:09:44] would be all over this if he had
[1:09:45] a chance, as well. I'm intrigued
[1:09:47] by the issue. I don't know much
[1:09:48] about it, but peoples ability in
[1:09:50] their quality of life is crucial
[1:09:52] to this, and so it obviously is
[1:09:56] powerful and impactful.
[1:09:58] >> Okay, I have to say
[1:10:00] something, I have to say that
[1:10:01] when this happened I'm also back
[1:10:07] to am and a. He is involved. We
[1:10:10] are working on it. But I'm
[1:10:14] asking also for your support. I
[1:10:17] feel it is important because the
[1:10:20] more people that reaches out,
[1:10:22] the more people that reaches
[1:10:24] out, our community needs it.
[1:10:28] >> Okay.
[1:10:29] >> I hope that you understand.
[1:10:32] >> I do, what I'm gonna call
[1:10:34] great tomorrow. It will be my
[1:10:35] first call tomorrow so I can get
[1:10:37] his guidance on, I'm sure he
[1:10:39] knows more about this than I do.
[1:10:40] But I will certainly, I'm glad
[1:10:42] you have spoken to him, so I can
[1:10:44] certainly, if you would give me
[1:10:47] your personal experience or the
[1:10:48] importance to you in writing,
[1:10:50] and I will speak to Greg, and I
[1:10:52] can certainly draft a letter.
[1:10:54] That's not a problem at all.
[1:10:56] >> Okay. That's fine. All right,
[1:11:00] so, thank you very much. I just
[1:11:01] wanted to show you how it works.
[1:11:04] As you can see --
[1:11:07] >> It worked well.
[1:11:08] >> That's right. That's right
[1:11:10] and also the fact that we have
[1:11:15] had one combinations had been
[1:11:16] working before such as the iPad
[1:11:18] that have closed captioning that
[1:11:20] I have been using before. And
[1:11:22] for the answers I have to come
[1:11:24] to -- so sometimes interpreters
[1:11:29] do work. As you can understand.
[1:11:34] So having used interpreters in a
[1:11:36] very different situation. Of
[1:11:38] course, take technology can
[1:11:40] work. There are some cases where
[1:11:43] captioning works. But as you can
[1:11:45] see, right now, the screen right
[1:11:49] there which could have closed
[1:11:50] captions, but I can see because
[1:11:53] I am in front. But if I have my
[1:11:58] interpreter here instead of down
[1:12:01] on my iPad, I delay. Sometimes,
[1:12:05] you know, I am very confused. So
[1:12:07] sometimes I have my interpreter
[1:12:10] which speaks me in a way that
[1:12:11] some kind of realtime
[1:12:13] interpretation. Thank you very
[1:12:16] much for listening to. Me
[1:12:17] >> Thank you very much. Thank
[1:12:21] you so much.
[1:12:29] >> Mister Mayor, if I may, to
[1:12:30] other people have been added to
[1:12:32] the list. Lowest Butler.
[1:12:48] >> CCSMM Lois Butler, say
[1:12:50] Pointe-Claire incident. I had
[1:12:51] some clients in my story today
[1:12:53] they're excited about heavy
[1:12:54] visitors for this first time in
[1:12:55] a long time and a looking
[1:12:56] forward to bringing them to the
[1:12:58] village and they were asking me
[1:13:00] what is the status with the
[1:13:02] windmill and is it going to be
[1:13:04] fixed and what's going on. They
[1:13:06] would really like to know. I
[1:13:07] guess I would like to know. So
[1:13:09] what's happening with the
[1:13:10] windmill?
[1:13:11] >> It has been back and forth
[1:13:12] for the last two months. I have
[1:13:14] been trying to expedite it. I
[1:13:15] have been all over it. Madame
[1:13:18] Val-d'Or will attest for this, I
[1:13:20] have been on this probably every
[1:13:22] week probably three times a week
[1:13:24] since then there been minor
[1:13:27] details not minor but the legal
[1:13:31] details of the finalization of
[1:13:33] the agreement going back and war
[1:13:35] forth between the archdiocese in
[1:13:37] the city and it has been to my
[1:13:39] frustration and I would love it
[1:13:40] to happen much sooner but, -- I
[1:13:45] think everybody would like to
[1:13:46] see it
[1:13:47] >> It's almost there, but it's
[1:13:48] like anything it's the final say
[1:13:53] -- I'm actively working on. It
[1:13:55] >> Yes.
[1:13:56] >> I've been bugging I the
[1:13:59] living daylights out of. Her
[1:14:01] >> It was a wonderful evening
[1:14:02] when we saw the students from
[1:14:03] St. Thomas, the participation,
[1:14:07] getting involved with things in
[1:14:09] their community in
[1:14:11] Pointe-Claire. I have been a
[1:14:13] very strong supporter of
[1:14:14] Fairview forest, as most people
[1:14:16] know. I would like to know, I
[1:14:19] know you've written to Mayor
[1:14:21] Plante about the forest. Have
[1:14:25] you contacted other levels of
[1:14:28] government to request funding?
[1:14:32] What's happening? Can you tell
[1:14:35] us who you've spoken to or what
[1:14:36] you've done?
[1:14:37] >> The really important one is
[1:14:39] coming up, one is that we're
[1:14:40] meeting? Is it this week?
[1:14:42] >> It's next week.
[1:14:44] >> With the representative,
[1:14:46] Madam Plante's --
[1:14:50] >> Next week is the other one.
[1:14:53] >> That's Madam Plante?
[1:14:54] >> We also contacted the CAO,
[1:14:56] the most viable sources of
[1:15:00] potential funding and the
[1:15:01] provincial government as well.
[1:15:02] >> That's good. People want to
[1:15:03] know these things. They are very
[1:15:07] interested. Those two things in
[1:15:08] our city. All right. Thank you.
[1:15:10] >> You are welcome. One other?
[1:15:14] >> One more.
[1:15:26] >> A record night, I never get
[1:15:27] to speak. I appreciate that I
[1:15:28] can tonight. Another resident of
[1:15:31] Pointe-Claire, a resident of
[1:15:33] Pierrefonds. I am really into
[1:15:36] the forest. You will see me on
[1:15:39] the corner of Fairview and
[1:15:40] Brunswick every Saturday. That
[1:15:44] forest is really important to me
[1:15:46] and many people, from what I am
[1:15:49] learning about likelier and how
[1:15:51] many people really love green
[1:15:52] spaces in this area. But it's
[1:15:55] also important to west
[1:15:56] islanders. When I say important,
[1:15:59] I don't always mean that you are
[1:16:00] going to see people there every
[1:16:02] weekend and with their strollers
[1:16:04] and picnic baskets from all over
[1:16:06] the West Island. In fact, a lot
[1:16:08] of people don't really know
[1:16:09] about it, they don't know about
[1:16:10] the access to it, even though
[1:16:11] that's been prevented now, the
[1:16:13] access to it. It is a little
[1:16:17] more soul of environmental
[1:16:22] health that you've got a lot of
[1:16:23] responsibility on your plate. I
[1:16:28] don't vote for you. You don't
[1:16:29] have to do anything for me
[1:16:35] because I don't have any say. I
[1:16:36] get that. But it is not just for
[1:16:39] me. It isn't just for
[1:16:41] Pointe-Claire when you save a
[1:16:42] forest. It's going to sound kind
[1:16:47] of cliché, but you have a bigger
[1:16:50] responsibility. There were so
[1:16:51] little left everywhere. There is
[1:16:52] so little left. I wish every
[1:16:55] city, I will go to every city,
[1:16:57] and I have been going through
[1:16:58] every city to ask this. Every
[1:17:03] space is crucial now. There is
[1:17:05] just no question. So I know it
[1:17:09] is so simplified for me to say
[1:17:11] this, but I just wish every
[1:17:13] person in your seats we would
[1:17:15] look at a forest and go, hold
[1:17:17] on, that's not on the table.
[1:17:19] Let's see what else we can do.
[1:17:21] There are so many other things
[1:17:22] we can do for Cadillac Fairview.
[1:17:24] Give them what they want, give
[1:17:25] the citizens what they want, and
[1:17:26] keep the forest. It is doable. I
[1:17:29] know you can do this. I really,
[1:17:31] really have faith in you guys.
[1:17:35] All I'm asking is for some of
[1:17:37] the people that are
[1:17:39] environmentalists and Montréal
[1:17:40] to have a say in this process.
[1:17:42] In some form. As I say, I don't
[1:17:46] want to take anybody's place
[1:17:47] from Pointe-Claire to speak.
[1:17:50] But, you know, we can submit
[1:17:52] briefs. We can submit
[1:17:54] information, ideas, anything. I
[1:17:56] hope the consultation process is
[1:17:57] inviting ideas and input, even
[1:18:03] if only from Pointe-Claire. At
[1:18:05] least it's inviting something,
[1:18:06] not just on a steering note to
[1:18:09] pick that choice and that
[1:18:11] choice. A true consultation.
[1:18:13] When Montréal holds a
[1:18:15] consultation, it's across the
[1:18:16] board. Anybody can attend. That
[1:18:18] is together. That's to get the
[1:18:19] best idea. I really hope that
[1:18:23] you open the board to get the
[1:18:24] best ideas, the best for your
[1:18:25] city. Then it will be the best
[1:18:27] for everybody. That's not really
[1:18:30] question. That's all I had to
[1:18:31] say.
[1:18:32] >> Okay. Well, --
[1:18:34] >> Thank you for the opportunity
[1:18:35] to speak.
[1:18:37] >> Our pleasure. You are right,
[1:18:38] it effects -- the area is
[1:18:42] everybody's resource. It is
[1:18:43] shared around the world. It's
[1:18:44] not specific to an area. I agree
[1:18:45] with you 100 percent. I have
[1:18:49] always felt, for me there is a
[1:18:53] natural inherent logic to
[1:18:54] protecting the forest in that
[1:18:56] you do an urban development, you
[1:18:58] have a requisite amount of green
[1:18:59] space that should accompany and
[1:19:00] urban development. There is one
[1:19:04] already there.
[1:19:05] >> It's not enough.
[1:19:06] >> I know. There is one already
[1:19:07] there. What I'm saying is there
[1:19:09] is one already there. Okay, you
[1:19:11] do a real estate development and
[1:19:14] you've got green space right
[1:19:15] beside your real estate
[1:19:16] development. That enhances the
[1:19:19] value of your real estate. Your
[1:19:22] real estate development.
[1:19:23] Everybody wants to live
[1:19:24] somewhere that has a green
[1:19:25] space. You go to Griffintown
[1:19:26] where there is none. The
[1:19:29] inherent logic of having a green
[1:19:31] space naturally provided a
[1:19:32] company of urban development is
[1:19:35] when -- it always has been a
[1:19:37] no-brainer. Mount Royal to
[1:19:40] Montréal, Stanley Park to
[1:19:41] Vancouver, and accompanying
[1:19:42] green space for people to enjoy
[1:19:44] it makes the urban setting so
[1:19:45] much more enjoyable. For me, it
[1:19:47] has always been a no-brainer. I
[1:19:52] am concurring with what you are
[1:19:53] saying.
[1:19:54] >> Thank you.
[1:19:55] >> Yeah. Is that it? Okay.
[1:20:09] 5.1
[1:20:11] - Adoption d'un règlement
[1:20:12] décrétant un emprunt à long
[1:20:13] terme et une dépense en
[1:20:14] immobilisations de 3650000$ pour
[1:20:15] le remplacement et l'acquisition
[1:20:16] de véhicules et d'équipements.
[1:20:19] il s'agit de règlements
[1:20:20] comprenant divers achats de même
[1:20:21] naturelle de même durée
[1:20:22] d'emprunt, à Savard, le
[1:20:23] remplacement et la mise à jour
[1:20:25] du parc de véhicules,
[1:20:26] acquisition de nouveaux
[1:20:27] véhicules et d'équipements,
[1:20:28] équipement et aussi pour le
[1:20:31] nouvel atelier mécanique. Le
[1:20:32] montant financier sera remboursé
[1:20:34] par le billet d'une taxe imposée
[1:20:36] à l'ensemble de la municipalité
[1:20:38] sera la base de la valeur
[1:20:39] foncière...
[1:20:40] >> La valeur foncière des
[1:20:42] immeubles so explain, went
[1:20:43] imposables, et ce, sur une durée
[1:20:44] de 6 ans. A grand financial
[1:20:45] support to various nonprofit
[1:20:46] Organizations for a total amount
[1:20:48] of $8,934. The organizations
[1:20:50] being the West Island
[1:20:51] association for the
[1:20:53] intellectually handicapped, the
[1:20:58] --
[1:21:00] >>... Do I have habitation
[1:21:01] jeunesse de l'ouest de l'île. A
[1:21:02] mover for 5.1 and 6.1.
[1:21:04] >> Cowan,
[1:21:05] District eight.
[1:21:06] >> Seconder?
[1:21:08] >> Cynthia homes, district five.
[1:21:09] >> All in favour? 7.1 Déposer le
[1:21:12] procès-verbal de la réunion du
[1:21:13] Comité Consultatif de la
[1:21:14] Bibliothèque de PointeClaire du
[1:21:15] 9 février 2023.
[1:21:20] >> 7.2, a point a member of the
[1:21:22] Pointe-Claire Public Library
[1:21:24] advisory board, this motion is
[1:21:25] to appoint misses -- as a member
[1:21:27] of the Pointe-Claire Public
[1:21:29] Library advisory committee for a
[1:21:30] three-year term until December
[1:21:31] 31st, 2025. 7.3 Approuver la
[1:21:33] reconduction et la nomination de
[1:21:34] membres au sein du Comité
[1:21:35] consultatif Stewart Hall. le
[1:21:42] comité consultatif recommande la
[1:21:44] reconduction de monsieur Larry
[1:21:45] oignons, madame Hélène Cousineau
[1:21:47] et madame Lucie Lapointe pour
[1:21:49] des mandats de 3 ans, soit du
[1:21:50] 1er janvier 2023 au 31 décembre
[1:21:52] 2025. Le comité consultatif
[1:21:54] recommande aussi la nomination
[1:21:55] de nouveaux membres, soit
[1:21:58] monsieur Alexandra Navarre et
[1:21:59] madame Arlette Smith, pour des
[1:22:00] mandats de trois, en soi de
[1:22:03] janvier 2023 à
[1:22:04] (---)
[1:22:05] 2025, le comité municipal
[1:22:06] procède à la nomination du
[1:22:09] comité dont la
[1:22:10] >> Composition finale demeure a
[1:22:11] point when, authorize the city
[1:22:13] to son entière discrétion.
[1:22:14] Become a member of the Great
[1:22:15] Lakes and St. Lawrence cities
[1:22:16] initiative. The Great Lakes and
[1:22:17] St. Lawrence cities initiative
[1:22:19] provides an avenue for the
[1:22:20] participation and local
[1:22:21] government in
[1:22:22] Decision-making regard to the
[1:22:23] lakes, as well as a network for
[1:22:25] restoration and protection and
[1:22:27] best practices sharing between
[1:22:28] lakes.
[1:22:31] >> For 7.2 to 8.1, do I have a
[1:22:32] mover?
[1:22:34] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:22:36] district three.
[1:22:37] >> Seconder?
[1:22:38] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:22:39] >> All in favour?
[1:22:41] >> Hold on, if I could just -- I
[1:22:43] understand somebody did not
[1:22:45] >> Owe, yes, yes, yes.
[1:22:47] >> Somebody voted against?
[1:22:49] >> Mister Mayor, I will speak
[1:22:51] first?
[1:22:55] >> 7.3.
[1:22:56] >> I am voting for 7.1 and 7.2,
[1:22:59] I'm voting against 7.3.
[1:23:02] >> Is anybody else voting
[1:23:04] against the same, 7.3? Okay.
[1:23:07] Thank you. Mister Mayor, yes?
[1:23:13] - Merci.
[1:23:16] - O.K..
[1:23:17] - Oui. 10.1 Déposer la liste des
[1:23:19] amendements budgétaires et le
[1:23:20] registre des chèques pour la
[1:23:21] période du 26 janvier 2023 au 1
[1:23:22] mars 2023.
[1:23:27] >> Ten points or two, -- and to
[1:23:30] the terms of the Elections --
[1:23:32] municipalities, the treasurer
[1:23:33] must -- April 1st submit to the
[1:23:36] municipal council the report of
[1:23:37] the activities he carried out
[1:23:38] under chapter 13 of the
[1:23:41] elections and referendums
[1:23:43] municipalities. In the previous
[1:23:44] fiscal year from January 1st to
[1:23:46] December 31st. 10.3 Octroyer un
[1:23:47] contrat pour la fourniture de
[1:23:50] services sur demande pour des
[1:23:51] travaux de câblages
[1:23:52] informatiques incluant pièces et
[1:23:54] accessoires pour tous les
[1:23:55] bâtiments de la ville pour les
[1:23:56] année 2023-2024 et 2024-2025, à
[1:24:00] Sci Connexion Inc., pour un
[1:24:01] montant total de 221901,75$,
[1:24:05] taxes incluses.
[1:24:11] >> 11.1, to authorize the
[1:24:12] payment of insurance premiums
[1:24:14] for 2023 in order to obtain the
[1:24:15] best possible rates. The city
[1:24:16] deals with the Union of
[1:24:18] Municipalities of Québec. It
[1:24:19] acts as the agent of group of
[1:24:21] municipalities on the island of
[1:24:22] Montréal for the purpose of
[1:24:23] insurance and the guarantee
[1:24:25] find. It should be noted that
[1:24:26] this is the city's property and
[1:24:27] casualty insurance. 12.1 Déposer
[1:24:30] la liste des changements au
[1:24:32] personnel par décisions
[1:24:33] déléguées pour le mois de mars
[1:24:37] 2023.
[1:24:40] >> To approve the -- March 14th,
[1:24:41] 2023.
[1:24:44] >> Do I have a mover for 10.3 to
[1:24:47] 12.2?
[1:24:48] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:24:49] >> And a seconder?
[1:24:51] >> Brett Cowan, district eight?
[1:24:52] >> All in favour? 13.1 Approuver
[1:24:55] une entente à intervenir avec le
[1:24:56] Centre de services scolaire
[1:24:57] Marguerite-Bourgeoys, concernant
[1:24:58] la prévention et la sécurité
[1:24:59] autour de l'École Saint-Louis.
[1:25:03] le but étant de définir les
[1:25:05] responsabilités des deux
[1:25:06] organisations dans la gestion de
[1:25:08] la circulation et les parents
[1:25:09] autour de l'école afin
[1:25:10] d'augmenter la sécurité des
[1:25:12] usagers et maintenir la qualité
[1:25:13] de vie des résidents à
[1:25:14] proximité. --
[1:25:18] >> For the provision of a --
[1:25:20] [Inaudible]
[1:25:23] The provision of certain
[1:25:26] additional services by the City
[1:25:27] of Montréal. This agreement will
[1:25:28] allow inspection in public
[1:25:29] security departments to continue
[1:25:31] to use in the SPC I system which
[1:25:35] is linked to the municipal court
[1:25:36] of Montréal furnish until three
[1:25:37] years. 13.3 Autoriser l'achat
[1:25:38] d'équipement de
[1:25:39] radiocommunication dans le cadre
[1:25:40] de l'entente concernant
[1:25:41] l'acquisition, l'installation et
[1:25:42] l'entretien d'un système de
[1:25:43] radiocommunication vocale
[1:25:44] (SERAM)
[1:25:45] intervenue avec la Ville de
[1:25:47] Montréal. la résolution est
[1:25:48] requise afin que les équipements
[1:25:50] acquis par la Ville soit inclus
[1:25:51] dans la liste des appareils de
[1:25:54] radiocommunications autorisés à
[1:25:55] être utilisés sur les fréquences
[1:25:57] de
[1:25:58] >> Systèmes for 13.1 to 13.3, do
[1:26:01] I have a mover?
[1:26:02] >> Moved SERAM.
[1:26:04] By terrace game fourth, district
[1:26:05] four.
[1:26:07] >> Seconder?
[1:26:08] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:26:09] district three.
[1:26:10] >> All in favour?
[1:26:13] >> 14 point, went to accept the
[1:26:14] renewal option for the contract
[1:26:16] entered into with CONCEPTION
[1:26:18] PAYSAGE INC., For the year 2023,
[1:26:19] in the amount of $ 25,186.77,
[1:26:23] taxes included concerning
[1:26:25] professional services for the
[1:26:26] monthly inspection of City
[1:26:27] playgrouds. 14.2 Octroyer un
[1:26:31] contrat pour des travaux
[1:26:32] d'entretien horticole aux
[1:26:33] aménagements du boulevard Hymus
[1:26:34] pour l'année 2023, à 9042-0845
[1:26:38] Québec Inc.
[1:26:39] (Mario C. Et Fils)
[1:26:40] , pour un montant total de
[1:26:41] 320913, 86$, taxes incluses,
[1:26:43] avec l'année 2024 en option.
[1:26:49] cinq blocs dans ce contrat, le
[1:26:50] Bloc un, des travaux d'entretien
[1:26:53] des quatre coins aménagé à
[1:26:54] l'intersection des boulevard
[1:26:55] Hymus et Saint-Jean, bloc, deux
[1:26:57] travaux d'entretien des
[1:26:58] aménagements de plates-bandes
[1:26:59] localisés de parer d'autres de
[1:27:01] la piste cyclable longeant les
[1:27:03] terrains situés entre la rue
[1:27:04] (---)
[1:27:05] et le boulevard Saint-Jean,
[1:27:06] bloc, trois travaux d'entretien
[1:27:08] et d'aménagement du côté sud du
[1:27:11] boulevard au sud de la piste
[1:27:14] cyclable entre St-Jean et
[1:27:15] Bellemare, bloque, quatre
[1:27:16] entretiens des aménagements au
[1:27:17] terre-plein du boulevard Hymus
[1:27:21] entre les avenues pas pré-camp
[1:27:22] et maltraite, bloc, cinq travaux
[1:27:25] d'aménagement du côté nord du
[1:27:26] boulevard Hymus, coin ouest de
[1:27:27] l'
[1:27:28] >> Avenue même Fred jusqu'à
[1:27:29] l'avenue nordique.
[1:27:31] 14 point, three of what a
[1:27:32] contract for the supply and
[1:27:33] loading of bituminous mix for
[1:27:34] the period of mid-March 2023 to
[1:27:35] mid-March 2024, to MELOCHE,
[1:27:37] DIVISION OF SINTRA and
[1:27:40] CONSTRUCTION DJL, for an
[1:27:41] approximate amount of $
[1:27:45] 329,679.32 taxes included, with
[1:27:47] the years 2024-2025 and
[1:27:48] 2025-2026 in option. The
[1:27:55] standing contract insurers of --
[1:27:57] in case of unavailability of our
[1:27:58] lead supplier. 14.4 Approbation
[1:28:00] de l'évaluation de rendement
[1:28:01] insatisfaisant de Orange
[1:28:02] Paysagement Inc. dans le cadre
[1:28:03] de la réalisation du contrat
[1:28:05] pour des travaux de plantation
[1:28:06] et d'entretien d'arbres en
[1:28:11] motte. selon les clauses du
[1:28:13] contrat, le justifie 4 heures
[1:28:14] peut être évaluée au minimum
[1:28:16] deux fois pendant le contrat, la
[1:28:17] note de passage pour
[1:28:18] l'évaluation est de 80%.
[1:28:20] L'entrepreneur a été évaluée
[1:28:21] trois fois pendant la période du
[1:28:23] contrat et n'a pas obtenu la
[1:28:25] note de passage dans les trois
[1:28:26] cas.
[1:28:27] 14.5 Adjust the expenses towards
[1:28:29] CONSTRUCTION DJL for the supply,
[1:28:30] without delivery, of hot mix
[1:28:32] asphalt for road maintenance
[1:28:33] works, for an amount of $
[1:28:34] 6,039.75, taxes included. A new
[1:28:40] increase of the purchase order
[1:28:41] is necessary to repair the
[1:28:43] expenses that occurred at the
[1:28:44] end of the 2020 season. The
[1:28:47] additional expenses is 6003 --
[1:28:50] which increases the purchase
[1:28:52] order from $50,000 to $844.42.
[1:28:57] Including taxes to $56,844.17,
[1:29:00] including tax.
[1:29:04] >> From 14.1 to 14.5, do I have
[1:29:05] a mover?
[1:29:08] >>
[1:29:11] >> Seconder?
[1:29:12] >> Seconded by terrace Dane
[1:29:14] fourth, a district for.
[1:29:15] >> All in favour?
[1:29:53] >> 15.2 award of contract for
[1:29:55] company maintenance an award for
[1:29:57] 2022 and 24 in 2020 4:25 to --
[1:29:59] total amount of $248,805.90, tax
[1:30:03] included, with the years 2025
[1:30:07] 2026, 2026 2027, and 2020 7:28
[1:30:11] an option, this contract
[1:30:12] provides repetitive and
[1:30:14] unpredictable general carpentry
[1:30:15] maintenance and repair works to
[1:30:17] ensure the safe operation of
[1:30:19] municipal buildings.
[1:30:48] >> 15.5 we contract with -- with
[1:30:51] a new construction of a new
[1:30:54] police station for amount of
[1:30:56] three $3,000.43 tax included.
[1:30:57] This is to authorize payment of
[1:30:58] five contract amendments for
[1:31:01] electrical works.
[1:31:05] >> For 15.1 two 15.5 two, I have
[1:31:07] a mover?
[1:31:08] >> When Cowan district date. All
[1:31:11] in favour?
[1:31:40] >>
[1:31:41] >> 16 point to restoring the
[1:31:42] baseball at -- parked with the
[1:31:44] total amount of $934,718.01,
[1:31:49] that is included. Scope of the
[1:31:51] project is to upgrade unscrew
[1:31:53] the baseball field at Northview
[1:31:54] Park. There's landscaping,
[1:31:56] drainage removal and replacement
[1:31:59] of equipment and natural
[1:32:00] services, supply in Elizabeth
[1:32:02] elation of mesh screens on the
[1:32:03] play benches as well as a play
[1:32:05] service.
[1:32:34] >> So important for award of
[1:32:36] contract for the structure
[1:32:38] rehabilitation of the of payment
[1:32:39] drinking water main along de
[1:32:40] source boulevard. Along
[1:32:41] Chanteclerc and Cornish avenues
[1:32:44] for four action eight for a
[1:32:45] total amount of $792,000, taxes
[1:32:46] included.
[1:34:08] >> Dean pointed approve a change
[1:34:09] order of the contract entered
[1:34:11] into with 12 construction Inc.
[1:34:13] for the construction of an
[1:34:14] accessible sanitary building at
[1:34:15] Augusta Park for the amount of
[1:34:19] $7,967.60, tax included. Three
[1:34:21] amendments or the extension of a
[1:34:22] site insurance on the building,
[1:34:23] a temporary electrical
[1:34:24] connection to heat the building,
[1:34:26] and a supply and installation of
[1:34:27] a new sink.
[1:35:24] >> 14.1 to 16.9, do I have a
[1:35:26] mover?
[1:35:27] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:35:28] district three.
[1:35:30] >> And seconder?
[1:35:31] >> District. To
[1:35:34] >> All in favour?
[1:35:37] >> So 17, the person presently
[1:35:39] does Council on the subjects
[1:35:41] here under the items 17.1 to
[1:35:51] 17.3 consider a minor exemption
[1:35:54] request considering the property
[1:35:56] situated and I do wonder boarded
[1:35:57] a lack lakeshore road. To permit
[1:36:00] the installation of a metal --
[1:36:02] planning material on the front
[1:36:03] as well as first 20% of the
[1:36:05] lateral facades rather than a
[1:36:07] class a -- material as required.
[1:36:09] Be, loading and unloading docks
[1:36:11] on the front set back where they
[1:36:12] are not permitted, three veal
[1:36:17] vehicular access is really tour
[1:36:18] permitted, loading and unloading
[1:36:19] tax without the required area to
[1:36:20] allow 15.2 metre track to
[1:36:21] manoeuvre without using the
[1:36:23] required parking spaces of the
[1:36:24] street right away and finally
[1:36:26] parking spaces in the front set
[1:36:27] back where it is not permitted.
[1:36:50] >> Georgia Crescent Avenue,
[1:36:51] being the first triplex to
[1:36:53] permit for a street parking
[1:36:55] spaces rather than the minimum
[1:36:56] required of five, three parking
[1:36:58] spaces with a width of two point
[1:37:00] 05 metres rather than the
[1:37:01] minimum required of 2.6 minute
[1:37:03] metres and three parking spaces
[1:37:04] where the length of 3.45
[1:37:07] millimeters rather than required
[1:37:09] of 5.5 metres, the practice
[1:37:10] spaces with a width
[1:37:12] perpendicular to the island to
[1:37:14] 0.44 metres, whether the minimum
[1:37:16] required of 5.73 metres. A
[1:37:18] circulation aisle with winds of
[1:37:20] 3.66 metres rather than a
[1:37:21] minimum required 4.5 metres. I
[1:37:24] vehicular access with the width
[1:37:25] of seven point when we metres
[1:37:26] our than the maximum permitted
[1:37:28] of 6.1 metres, and finally the
[1:37:30] reduction of the space in the
[1:37:31] front set back to 74% rather the
[1:37:36] minimum required 50%.
[1:37:40] [Laughter]
[1:39:06] >> To preserve a certain number
[1:39:08] of trees.
[1:39:09] >> I'm also voting against 17.1.
[1:39:11] I'm in favour of the other
[1:39:12] items, 17.2 through 17.7. I vote
[1:39:20] to vote against 17.1 in order to
[1:39:24] preserve some particular species
[1:39:26] of trees, eastern cottonwoods,
[1:39:27] that are on that property.
[1:39:33] >> Okay. But
[1:39:58] >> 18 point, two to approve a
[1:39:59] partnership agreement to be
[1:40:00] entered into with the in this
[1:40:04] city Pointe-Claire and the --
[1:40:06] organization committed to
[1:40:08] preparing a safe environment
[1:40:09] free from all forms of
[1:40:10] harassment, abuse, and violence,
[1:40:11] the common commitment serve to
[1:40:13] protect the and interests of
[1:40:15] these officials volunteers and
[1:40:16] staff.
[1:40:17] >> Do I have a mover for 18.1
[1:40:20] and 18.2?
[1:40:21] >> I proposed to approve 18.1
[1:40:24] and 18.2.
[1:40:25] >> Seconder?
[1:40:26] >> Seconded by district six.
[1:40:28] >> All in favour?
[1:40:33] >> Madam Stainforth. Closure?
[1:40:39] Oh, yes, do I have a mover,
[1:40:41] foreclosure?
[1:40:42] >> Interesting, fourth district
[1:40:44] four.
[1:40:46] >> District Stork, district?
[1:40:48] Seven
[1:40:49] >> Thanks everyone.