[0:46] - Mesdames et Messieurs,
[0:48] bienvenue à Ladies and cette
[0:50] séance ordinaire du mardi 6
[0:52] juin. Gentlemen, good evening,
[0:54] and welcome to -- Tuesday, June
[0:58] 6th.
[1:00] C'est avec tristesse que nous
[1:01] avons appris le décès de Madame
[1:03] Amalia Guindi, en date du 8 mai
[1:06] dernier. Elle était à l'emploi
[1:07] de la ville pendant 25 années,
[1:11] au moment de sa retraite en
[1:12] juillet 2018, elle était commis
[1:16] à la bibliothèque. Nous offrons
[1:18] nos plus sincères condoléances à
[1:19] sa famille et ses amis.
[1:25] It is with sadness that we learn
[1:28] of the death of Madame Amelia --
[1:37] on May 8th -- she was a library
[1:39] clerk. We offer our most sincere
[1:41] condolences to her -- and our --
[1:51] -- this community for many many
[1:54] decades --
[2:00] La Médaille du
[2:02] Lieutenant-gouverneur a pour
[2:03] objet la reconnaissance de
[2:04] l'engagement bénévole, de la
[2:07] détermination, et du dépassement
[2:08] de soi de Québécois et de
[2:12] Québécoises, qui exercent ou qui
[2:16] ont exercé une influence
[2:17] positive
[2:22] au sein de leur communauté, ou
[2:23] de la nation québécoise. Quatre
[2:24] personnes qui habitent ou
[2:25] travaillent à Pointe-Claire, ont
[2:26] reçu une médaille dans le cadre
[2:27] d'une cérémonie qui s'est
[2:29] déroulée le 04 juin dernier.
[2:36] Dans la catégorie Médaille du
[2:37] Lieutenant-gouverneur pour la
[2:38] jeunesse, ce sont les directions
[2:39] des établissements
[2:40] d'enseignements qui soumettent
[2:41] les candidatures. Les trois
[2:44] récipiendaires sont:
[2:50] Madame Regina Lizarraga
[2:51] Santamaria, École secondaire
[2:52] John Rennie,
[2:58] M. Gaurav Ropal, école
[2:59] secondaire Felix-Leclerc,
[3:06] Madame Trina Ushvaththa
[3:07] Liyanage, École secondaire St.
[3:08] Thomas. La Médaille du
[3:09] Lieutenant-gouverneur pour les
[3:14] ainés. Dans cette catégorie,
[3:15] c'est monsieur André Giroux,
[3:19] qui a été honoré pour son
[3:20] engagement bénévole soutenu au
[3:22] niveau social ou communautaire,
[3:27] qui s'est poursuivi au-delà de
[3:28] l'âge de 64 ans. Il a contribué
[3:32] au mieux-être de son milieu et à
[3:34] l'atteinte de la mission d'un
[3:37] organisme. Félicitations à tous
[3:38] les récipiendaires. The purpose
[3:44] of the lieutenant governor's
[3:46] metal is to recognize the
[3:48] involvement, determination and
[3:49] constant striving of Quebecers
[3:51] both had a positive influence in
[3:53] their community. For people who
[3:57] live or work in Pointe-Claire
[4:00] received medals during a
[4:01] ceremony held on June 4th. In
[4:03] the category of lieutenant
[4:05] governors youth metal, it is the
[4:06] school management that submit
[4:09] the applications. The three
[4:13] recipients are Ms. Regina --
[4:17] John Ronnie high School, Mr. --
[4:24] Gorav school -- and Ms. Trina --
[4:29] in the category of lieutenant
[4:32] governor seniors medal, the
[4:34] recipient is Andre Giroux --
[4:36] which continued beyond the age
[4:38] of 64 and contributed to the
[4:40] well-being of -- congratulations
[4:46] to all the recipients.
[4:50] Afin de soutenir les personnes
[4:51] qui souhaitent prendre un virage
[4:53] éco-responsable, et réduire leur
[4:54] consommation d'eau, la Ville de
[4:57] Pointe-Claire est fière de
[4:58] distribuer des trousses
[5:02] d'économie d'eau, jusqu'à
[5:03] épuisement des stocks.
[5:07] Ces kits sont conçus pour
[5:08] réduire jusqu'à 40% la
[5:09] consommation d'eau sans
[5:10] compromettre la pression.
[5:15] Depuis le jeudi 1er juin 2023,
[5:16] les résidentes et résidents
[5:20] peuvent remplir un formulaire
[5:21] d'inscription en ligne,
[5:29] leur permettant de réserver et
[5:30] choisir entre deux ensembles
[5:31] écoresponsables d'économie
[5:32] d'eau, visitez la page sur la
[5:36] consommation d'eau du site Web
[5:37] de la Ville pour réserver votre
[5:43] trousse. In an effort to lower
[5:44] the communities water
[5:45] consumption, the City of
[5:47] Pointe-Claire is proud to
[5:48] distribute water saving kids to
[5:51] residents while supplies last.
[5:53] These water saving kits are
[5:55] designed to waste up to 40% less
[5:57] water without compromising on
[5:59] water pressure. Since Thursday,
[6:01] June 1st, 2023, residents are
[6:03] able to fill out an online
[6:05] registration form, allowing them
[6:07] to choose between two
[6:09] environmentally friendly water
[6:11] kits. Visit the City's website,
[6:13] the water consumption page, to
[6:17] reserve your kit. Active --
[6:20] Activités participative
[6:22] d'urbanisme. À partir de demain
[6:25] midi, nous invitons les
[6:26] citoyennes et les citoyens à
[6:28] s'inscrire, à la troisième
[6:29] activité participative pour la
[6:31] révision du plan d'urbanisme.
[6:34] Cette fois sur le thème du
[6:35] transport et la mobilité.
[6:41] L'activité se tiendra le 21 juin
[6:42] prochain au chalet
[6:43] Baie-de-Valois à 19h, les places
[6:44] sont limitées. merci de réserver
[6:45] votre place. Starting at noon
[6:52] tomorrow, we are inviting sized
[6:54] citizens to register for the
[6:56] Third participatory workshop for
[6:57] the revision of the urban plan.
[6:59] This time, the theme is
[7:01] transportation and mobility. The
[7:03] activity will take place on June
[7:05] 21st at the bag voila chalet --
[7:10] please reserve your place.
[7:19] Les feux de forêt sont
[7:20] malheureusement un sujet
[7:21] d'actualité présentement. Au
[7:22] Canada, depuis 1990, les feux de
[7:23] végétation ont brûlé en moyenne
[7:25] 2,5 millions d'hectares par
[7:26] année.
[7:33] Ces feux se produisent dans les
[7:34] forêts, les zones arbustives et
[7:35] les prairies.
[7:39] Certains d'entre eux ne sont pas
[7:40] maîtrisés,
[7:44] et ont été allumés par la foudre
[7:45] ou des humains négligents.
[7:50] Dans le cas de la responsabilité
[7:51] humaine,
[7:55] la cause peut être
[7:56] intentionnelle, involontaire ou
[7:57] liée aux infrastructures.
[8:02] Les statistiques disent que 90%
[8:03] des départs de feux de forêt ont
[8:06] pour origine les activités
[8:10] humaines. Les facteurs humains
[8:11] jouent un rôle important dans
[8:12] les zones boisées aménagées. Par
[8:16] exemple, le risque de feu de
[8:17] végétation augmente lorsque les
[8:19] opérations d'exploitation
[8:24] forestière sont menées par temps
[8:25] sec, et lorsque les chemins
[8:28] forestiers donnent accès aux
[8:29] amateurs de plein air aux zones
[8:30] boisées.
[8:33] Le fait qu'une collectivité
[8:34] connaisse ces facteurs augmente
[8:38] sa capacité à réduire le risque
[8:39] de feu de végétation
[8:47] à proximité, à se préparer à de
[8:48] tels feux et à s'en
[8:49] rétablir.J'aimerais terminer ce
[8:50] préambule
[8:52] en rendant hommage à tous ces
[8:53] hommes et ces femmes qui sont
[8:57] déployés à plusieurs endroits au
[9:01] Québec pour combattre les
[9:02] nombreux feux de forêt qui nous
[9:03] affligent.
[9:07] Merci d'être vigilants lors de
[9:08] vos déplacements estivaux dans
[9:09] les zones à risques. Forest
[9:15] fires are unfortunately a hot
[9:16] topic right now -- no pun
[9:18] intended -- in Canada, since
[9:20] 1990, wildfires have burned an
[9:22] average of 2.5 million hectares
[9:25] per year. These fires occur in
[9:27] forests, shrub lands and
[9:28] grasslands. Some are
[9:30] uncontrolled and are started by
[9:31] lightning or careless humans. In
[9:33] the case of human
[9:35] responsibility, the cause can be
[9:37] intentional, unintentional, or
[9:40] infrastructure related.
[9:42] Statistics show that 90% of
[9:44] forest fires are caused by human
[9:45] activity. Human factors play an
[9:48] important role in managed
[9:51] woodlands. For example, the risk
[9:53] of wildfire increases when
[9:55] logging operations are conducted
[9:56] in dry weather, and when forced
[9:59] roads provide access to -- for
[10:02] outdoor enthusiasts. The
[10:05] communities awareness of these
[10:06] factors -- in the vicinity and
[10:09] to prepare for and recover from
[10:11] such fires. I would like to end
[10:13] this preamble by paying tribute
[10:14] to all the men and women who are
[10:16] deployed in many parts of to
[10:19] Québec fight that many forest
[10:20] fires that afflict us. Thank you
[10:21] for being vigilant when
[10:23] Travelling in high-risk areas
[10:25] this summer.
[10:27] Et maintenant, Madame Thibault
[10:28] nous pouvons débuter notre
[10:29] séance de ce soir.
[10:38] -
[10:39] >> Adoption of the agenda --
[10:40] Adoption de l'ordre du jour avec
[10:41] deux changements, à 6,1, le
[10:42] montrant devrait être 100
[10:43] dollars. Et à 6,3, le montant
[10:48] devrait être 375 dollars. At 6.1
[10:52] the amount should be $100. At
[10:55] 6.3 the amount should be $375.
[10:59] >> Okay.
[11:01] >> 3.1?
[11:02] >> -- mover -- second -- do I
[11:07] have a mover?
[11:10] >> I'm sorry -- I'm sorry, my
[11:13] mistake.
[11:14] >> 3.1 -- traffic committee
[11:16] meetings of March 21st and May
[11:19] 9th of 2023?
[11:25] 3.2 Approuver les procès-verbaux
[11:26] de la séance ordinaire du 2 mai
[11:27] 2023 et de la séance
[11:28] extraordinaire du 9 mai 2023.
[11:32] >> For a 1.1 --
[11:40] >> Seconder?
[11:41] >> -- district too district 2.
[11:48] Période de questions. Question
[11:50] period --
[11:52] Pour la période de questions ce
[11:53] soir, la période de questions,
[11:55] vous avez été accueilli à
[11:57] l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la
[11:59] période de questions.
[12:00] L'intention de cette démarche
[12:02] est d'abord de permettre aux
[12:03] personnes de demeurer assise
[12:06] jusqu'à l'appel de leurs noms.
[12:08] Et d'accorder la priorité aux
[12:10] résidents et résidentes de
[12:12] Pointe-Claire. Un, nous
[12:15] garderons 90 minutes pour la
[12:16] période de questions. Deux, une
[12:19] personne à la fois au micro.
[12:22] Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[12:24] qu'un citoyen est terminé pour
[12:26] poser sa question et que vous
[12:29] soyez appelé de avant de vous
[12:30] lever pour venir poser votre
[12:31] question. Trois, les
[12:34] non-résidents présents pourront
[12:35] poser leurs questions par la
[12:38] suite, si le temps n'est pas
[12:39] écouler. For question period --
[12:45] tonight during question period,
[12:46] we were greeted at the entrance
[12:49] -- allow people to remain seated
[12:51] until their name is called and
[12:52] to give priority to
[12:55] Pointe-Claire residents. One, we
[12:56] shall stick to 90 minute time
[12:58] limit for question period.
[13:01] Number two, one person at a time
[13:03] for the -- to finish asking the
[13:05] question and to be called before
[13:06] you get up to ask viewers.
[13:09] Number three, non president will
[13:11] be able to ask questions
[13:14] afterwards if there still is
[13:15] time.
[13:16] Question period --
[13:20] >> On peut wait, wait --
[13:21] Commencer.
[13:22] - Monsieur...
[13:23] -, S'il vous plaît, monsieur
[13:24] Alain Dubuc.
[13:31] - Bonsoir, Monsieur le Maire, et
[13:32] à tous vous autres, et les
[13:33] membres du comité municipal de
[13:34] la ville. J'ai une question pour
[13:36] vous. C'est ça, je m'appelle
[13:39] Alain Dubuc, je suis résidente
[13:42] au 256, avenue bord du lac, à
[13:44] Pointe-Claire. Les jours. Et
[13:47] j'ai une question. Alors
[13:50] j'aimerais savoir si le conseil
[13:53] municipal considère qu'un très
[13:56] fort bruit causé par un voisin
[13:58] et légalement acceptable quand
[14:01] il est produit pendant quelques
[14:03] heures par jour, quatre jours
[14:06] sur sept, à toutes les semaines,
[14:09] et pendant tout l'été? Et
[14:12] j'aimerais aussi savoir quelle
[14:14] personne est légalement habilité
[14:16] à mesurer la puissance d'un
[14:17] bruit? Et la distance à laquelle
[14:23] on entend ce bruit en milieu
[14:24] urbain. Je dois vous dire que
[14:26] j'ai aussi, évidemment, une
[14:27] copie du règlement municipal qui
[14:29] a été approuvé par le maire
[14:33] Séguin concernant la paix
[14:35] publique et tout ça. J'ai tout
[14:37] lu ça. Alors voilà. J'aimerais
[14:39] ça avoir une réponse à ma
[14:40] question, s'il vous plaît.
[14:43] - C'est une bonne question,
[14:44] monsieur Dubuc. Je ne sais pas
[14:48] les règles officiellement, mais
[14:50] vous parlez au sujet de...
[14:54] - De bruit.
[14:55] - De bruit, O.K.. Le bruit
[14:57] musical, de la musique, ou juste
[14:58] du bruit?
[14:59] - On peut appeler ça comme vous
[15:00] voulez.
[15:01] - O.K., O.K.. Corinne a, est-ce
[15:05] que vous connaissez les règles?
[15:06] - Au niveau du bruit, dans le
[15:08] fond, c'est notre élément de
[15:09] nuisance qui est imputable. Et
[15:11] pour nous, à la Ville, c'est le
[15:13] département de la sécurité
[15:14] publique qui applique ce
[15:15] règlement-là.
[15:16] - D'accord.
[15:17] - O.K.. Le règlement, vous
[15:19] parlez de la Sécurité publique.
[15:22] C'est-à-dire? Je veux dire...
[15:24] moi, j'ai appelé régulièrement
[15:26] la Sécurité publique. J'ai aussi
[15:28] parlé à mon conseiller
[15:31] municipal, monsieur Claude
[15:33] Cousineau, concernant mon
[15:34] problème. Et puis je veux dire,
[15:37] je suis ici ce soir pour vous
[15:40] dire que, bien là, je ne sais
[15:41] plus à qui parler, là. Parce
[15:43] qu'il n'y a personne, il ne se
[15:45] passe rien. Je n'ai pas eu de
[15:47] nouvelles. Je n'ai pas de
[15:48] nouvelles.
[15:55] - C'est sûr qu'aujourd'hui, je
[15:56] ne peux pas répondre à votre
[15:57] problématique en tant que tel
[15:58] parce que je ne la connais pas,
[15:59] vous comprenez? Mais je ne sais
[16:01] pas à qui vous avez parlé au
[16:03] niveau de la sécurité publique,
[16:04] mais si vous voulez, après la
[16:05] séance, peut-être communiqué
[16:07] directement avec le directeur
[16:08] qui est monsieur Tanguay ou avec
[16:09] moi-même, on peut regarder plus
[16:11] en détail votre dossier, si vous
[16:13] voulez.
[16:14] - O.K.. Alors c'est ça votre
[16:16] réponse?
[16:17] - Désolé, Alain. C'est la
[16:19] première fois que j'ai entendu
[16:20] ça.
[16:21] - O.K..
[16:22] - Ce n'est pas la première fois
[16:23] que monsieur Cousineau entend
[16:24] ça, par exemple.
[16:28] (inaudible)
[16:44] - O.K., j'ai croisé monsieur le
[16:45] maire hier, justement, quelques
[16:46] secondes. Il partait pour
[16:48] quelque chose d'important,
[16:50] j'imagine... et puis il m'a
[16:53] mentionné deux sujets. Et puis
[16:57] les plaintes contre
[17:02] (---)
[17:03] 77 vont être considérés par le
[17:05] conseil. Présentement, la loi
[17:07] est respectée. J'ai fait suivre
[17:13] un et merde à monsieur Tanguay.
[17:16] Je crois, un courriel, puis
[17:17] tout. Je crois que j'ai mis
[17:19] madame Gagnon en copie. Il m'a
[17:24] répondu: ce n'est pas clair, ma
[17:26] mémoire. S'il est allé vous voir
[17:29] pour vous expliquer le
[17:31] règlement. La procédure.
[17:34] - Le règlement, je le connais
[17:35] bien. La question que je vous
[17:36] pose, c'est, et puis j'aimerais
[17:37] ça que vous me répondiez: est-ce
[17:39] que vous trouvez ça correct, ce
[17:41] qui est en train de se passer
[17:42] dans le village en ce moment?
[17:45] Dites-moi ça, dites-moi oui,
[17:46] c'est beau. Vous dites non, ce
[17:48] n'est pas correct. City
[17:53] - Pour moi, c'est la première
[17:55] fois que j'ai entendu une
[17:56] plainte, c'était hier. Entendre
[18:00] la madame n'était pas
[18:01] complètement contre ce qui se
[18:02] passait, si on parle de
[18:03] l'exemple dans le village. Je
[18:05] pense que je comprends la
[18:06] question. Mais il n'était pas
[18:07] vraiment contre. Elle voulait
[18:10] régler la situation d'une
[18:14] façon...
[18:15] - Civilisée.
[18:16] - Gentille, civilisés pour tout
[18:17] le monde. Mais même pour la
[18:18] business aussi. Mais elle
[18:19] n'était pas complètement contre
[18:20] ce qui se passait. Je ne sais
[18:22] pas si c'est le cas pour vous
[18:25] aussi. Vous êtes le deuxième.
[18:28] Alors pour moi, ce n'est pas
[18:30] encore une crise. Mais on va
[18:31] voir ce qui se passe. Et...
[18:34] - Mais comme dit monsieur
[18:35] Cousineau, ça veut dire qu'à
[18:36] votre avis, selon ce qu'il vient
[18:37] de dire, le règlement est
[18:39] respecté. Et tout est correct,
[18:40] c'est ça? Oui, oui?
[18:45] - On peut vérifier ça.
[18:46] - O.K..
[18:47] - Le règlement est observé.
[18:48] - C'est beau...
[18:52] - Mais on peut, et ça, ça a
[18:53] toujours fait partie de la
[18:55] campagne, si on veut... moi, je
[18:59] veux un village vivant. Ça peut
[19:01] s'arranger. Il y a eu d'autres
[19:03] problèmes de musique forte. Et
[19:07] j'ai entendu des plaintes à
[19:09] plusieurs reprises au début. Et
[19:12] puis ça semble s'être réglé à
[19:14] l'amiable. Je ne vois pas
[19:16] pourquoi est-ce qu'on ne
[19:17] pourrait pas s'asseoir avec
[19:20] monsieur Epstein, qui est le
[19:22] propriétaire du studio. Et puis
[19:25] en venir à un arrangement.
[19:29] - Merci, merci beaucoup.
[19:30] - Ça fait plaisir.
[19:31] - Bonsoir.
[19:32] - Merci.
[19:43] -- Macosse -- if I pronounce
[19:47] that right, sir?
[19:49] >> -- frequent flyer here. Hi,
[19:55] guys. My name is Sarah Macosse.
[19:58] I live in battle guard avenue in
[20:00] front of Northview Park. I'm
[20:02] here to discuss that subject
[20:05] again. Glenn is holding up a
[20:09] picture of the temporary fence
[20:11] that has been -- the
[20:12] construction. I want to make
[20:13] sure everyone has seen it. It's
[20:15] a great example from Eric's
[20:17] happy place that we spoke about
[20:19] last time of what the park will
[20:21] look like from his view. You can
[20:23] see there's a family sitting on
[20:24] the bench and they are looking
[20:25] at the temporary fence, which is
[20:27] six feet high. The fence will be
[20:31] eight feet, as proposed. Mr.,
[20:35] Mayor, in your interview with
[20:36] C.J. D CJD -- that's not a great
[20:43] scenario. So, here we are again.
[20:47] And we will continue to come
[20:49] until this makes sense to us. We
[20:51] have come with facts, some of
[20:53] which, you acknowledged in your
[20:56] interview or your letter.
[20:59] Baseball Québec and baseball
[21:00] Montréal, guided by the MEES,
[21:04] which is the reference for Mr.
[21:11] Gilois -- majority of baseball
[21:14] fields on the island are not
[21:16] fenced. The mayor has added to
[21:18] this, specifically, that I have
[21:20] not heard a lot from the
[21:21] baseball lobby. They have not
[21:23] been telling us why they needed
[21:26] strenuously either. Can I ask
[21:28] anyone here from north you to
[21:29] raise their hand, please? Thank
[21:31] you. And I believe they're some
[21:34] additional people downstairs.
[21:36] More residents have signed the
[21:38] petition that we are
[21:39] circulating. We are at 300, as
[21:42] of the -- file to give to the
[21:46] 123 we submitted last time. The
[21:49] registration for baseball West
[21:51] Island is 230 players. Now, we
[21:54] are exceeding the number of
[21:57] players who play baseball, per
[22:01] Jennifer award -- 6.5 on the
[22:05] agenda is about revising the
[22:09] contract. There was some talk
[22:10] about the contract being-limited
[22:12] in terms of how much we can
[22:14] revise, per section 2.1.01 the
[22:23] contract is amenable up to --
[22:25] the outfield fence and mesh
[22:27] total under $115,000, which is
[22:31] only 12% of the contract. So, it
[22:33] is within the confines of your
[22:35] ability within the council to
[22:36] make the decision to make this
[22:39] revision. On the morning of
[22:41] Saturday the 27th, a Public
[22:44] Works day, we received an email
[22:45] from the mayor's office
[22:48] mentioning that the reasoning
[22:49] for the fence included injuries
[22:53] related to the outfield and
[22:54] walking trail. We have actually
[22:57] requested records of these
[22:58] injuries multiple times and have
[22:59] not had any responses. And we
[23:01] are still very interested. We
[23:04] obviously don't want anyone to
[23:05] be hurt. And, lost ball's -- the
[23:12] mayor's letter mentioned that
[23:13] the City would put up the fence
[23:15] and would remain amenable to
[23:17] suggest that we take the fence
[23:18] down if, after a year, it has
[23:20] proven to be too disruptive. As
[23:22] I am sure you can imagine, to
[23:24] receive this message was
[23:25] upsetting. To hear that offence
[23:27] is going up because of lost
[23:29] baseballs is beyond
[23:30] disappointing. We know there are
[23:32] other reasons. But that was an
[23:34] interesting point to include.
[23:36] But then to learn that the City
[23:38] would consider spending almost
[23:41] $100,000 to erect offence, only
[23:43] to consider taking it down after
[23:45] a year, as taxpayers I think I
[23:47] can speak for a large group of
[23:49] us -- we demand better. We
[23:50] should be making decisions based
[23:53] on empirical data and not on
[23:55] what it's and nice two haves --
[23:59] and can be avoided with a
[24:01] painted line and field
[24:02] resurfacing, which has already
[24:04] happened in this part of the
[24:06] renovations. It does not feel
[24:07] like the best way to invest
[24:09] public funds and-limited
[24:11] Resources. So, what would we
[24:13] would propose, instead of
[24:15] putting the plan for the fence,
[24:18] we would say, put it on hold
[24:19] until it has been determined
[24:22] that defenses truly necessary by
[24:23] determining that there are in
[24:25] fact injuries, that there are in
[24:26] fact issues that are brought up
[24:28] without having this fence.
[24:30] Because it is not required by
[24:32] any baseball association, and
[24:33] the park has existed for decades
[24:36] with very few instances. So, why
[24:40] not take the time to make the
[24:41] right decision, instead of what
[24:42] seems like rushing into what has
[24:44] become an increasingly unpopular
[24:46] decision? So, my question
[24:49] tonight, after all that -- sorry
[24:52] -- considering that you already
[24:53] have the contract on the agenda
[24:54] to discuss, will you listen to
[24:56] an increasing number of citizens
[24:59] and put the plan for the
[25:00] outfield fence on pause until
[25:02] you can verify it is truly
[25:04] necessary to spend almost
[25:07] $100,000 of taxpayer funds?
[25:11] >> Okay. To be specific to a few
[25:14] things, the number of players
[25:17] example is a little off because
[25:18] there are players from other
[25:20] parts of the city that will be
[25:22] playing in that field. So, it's
[25:24] for the greater good of baseball
[25:25] in general. So, it's not just
[25:29] the players, the number that you
[25:31] have claimed. My feeling on this
[25:34] has been, and will always be,
[25:37] that you can always change
[25:38] things. That is not shared and I
[25:40] understand the argument you said
[25:42] about expenditure. And there are
[25:43] certainly people on Council who
[25:44] would agree with you. I am
[25:46] flying solo on that one. I spoke
[25:49] to another mayor. I was in
[25:51] Toronto when I did that
[25:52] interview. And I spoke to
[25:53] another mayor who had gone
[25:54] through the exact same
[25:55] circumstance. And that's, in
[25:57] fact, what he did. And he
[25:59] offered to deal -- I can give
[26:01] you examples of the city that I
[26:03] would like to see changed, and I
[26:05] would still fight to have them
[26:06] changed. The change of the lower
[26:10] car chain, where we lost -- for
[26:13] commercial purposes was, I
[26:14] think, a result that was not
[26:15] very good. I will continue to
[26:18] lobby against that, with what we
[26:20] did with a lower car chain
[26:22] changing back to what it was
[26:24] originally, and that's a loss
[26:26] and an incredible expenditure --
[26:28] are you going to live in
[26:29] perpetuity with what you think
[26:33] is a mistake? I've never been a
[26:35] big fan of the St. Louis bike
[26:38] path -- these things go into
[26:40] perpetuity. If they go into
[26:42] perpetuity badly, it might be
[26:44] worth the loss of revenue. We
[26:46] can still always change things
[26:48] if they don't work for the
[26:49] community. So, that's my
[26:50] argument there. It's not shared.
[26:51] And I agree with your point
[26:53] about spending money and maybe
[26:54] not spending money and then
[26:56] reversing the decision is maybe
[26:57] not the best way to go. However,
[26:59] it's better than going into
[27:01] perpetuity with a bad decision
[27:04] or one that is unacceptable to
[27:07] the west of the population.
[27:09] >> Agreed.
[27:10] >> -- as for the ultimate
[27:11] decision on it, well, it was
[27:13] pretty much unanimously voted on
[27:15] by Council. So, I can't speak to
[27:17] that other than to say, baseball
[27:22] Québec suggested that. Our
[27:25] experts advised it and we are
[27:28] one of three out of 34 that
[27:30] don't have a fence. 31 other
[27:33] cities -- I think it's 31 --
[27:37] >> --
[27:38] >> Being Pointe-Claire, we like
[27:39] to do things up to code, and
[27:41] that was the decision on
[27:42] Council's part at the outset,
[27:43] and that was the rationale for
[27:45] doing what we thought was the
[27:46] right thing to do. So, it
[27:48] remains up in the air. But it
[27:50] has -- the decision has been
[27:51] made. But that does not mean, in
[27:53] my perspective, as a political
[27:56] -- as a -- political action,
[27:58] that anything can't be change. I
[28:00] think anything can be changed.
[28:01] And that's what I was
[28:02] expressing.
[28:03] >> For sure. And I've heard that
[28:06] multiple times, and I appreciate
[28:07] it, because it does, in fact,
[28:09] give us a little bit of steam in
[28:11] our engines. But what is enough?
[28:12] Now, we have 300 citizens. The
[28:15] count is still going. I had to
[28:16] leave my house and I was still
[28:18] getting sign ups. We see the
[28:20] registration for baseball, as
[28:21] I've said. The park has
[28:24] coexisted with baseball for
[28:25] decades, without incident that
[28:27] we have learned of. No one has
[28:30] given us any proof of that. So,
[28:32] our ask is to have a win win
[28:34] situation, where the citizens
[28:36] who are actively upset -- we
[28:38] have been here three months in a
[28:39] row. We are circulating
[28:41] petitions. We are very much
[28:42] trying to reason here and be
[28:44] fair. We want to come up with a
[28:45] compromise. Baseball can
[28:47] continue as is. We are just
[28:50] simply asking that we take away
[28:52] that outfield fence that so that
[28:53] we can continue to enjoy our
[28:55] green space and that our small,
[28:59] unique neighbourhood park as is.
[29:00] >> Okay. Well, the short answer
[29:04] to your question is, enough is
[29:06] enough for Council to change its
[29:08] mind. And that will be seen in
[29:10] the vote.
[29:11] >> Thank you. I appreciate your
[29:12] time, again.
[29:17] >> John kill Patrick
[29:24] Kilpatrick? I
[29:29] >> Got evening, Mr. mayor and --
[29:32] of Pointe-Claire. The questions
[29:35] about tree cutting -- I have
[29:38] lived in my house for over 35
[29:40] years. I have got an old tree.
[29:43] It has had many breaks, many
[29:46] damages to my house, cars. And
[29:51] in the last two or three months,
[29:54] with the ice storm, the heavy
[29:55] winds and even today, I have
[29:57] major cracks in my tree. I put a
[30:00] request in to the city to have
[30:03] it cut down. The inspector came,
[30:05] got out of the car, took a photo
[30:07] of the tree, sent me a refusal,
[30:10] saying the tree is in good
[30:13] shape, and then sent an email
[30:15] back to the person and I will --
[30:19] some people, showing the cracks
[30:21] in the trees tree that are
[30:24] substantial. This is he came
[30:26] back and said, here are six
[30:32] arborist's that I can go to to
[30:33] get an evaluation. Out of all
[30:36] six of them, all the arborists
[30:38] are in favour of keeping trees.
[30:40] So, I hired one. He came over
[30:43] and he looked at the tree and
[30:45] gave a finding. The finding is
[30:47] quite simple. There are cracks
[30:49] in the trees. What their
[30:52] solution is, we will save the
[30:55] tree by cabling the tree. And in
[30:58] five years, determine if the
[31:00] tree should be taken down. So,
[31:02] I'm sort of sitting here going,
[31:04] as you said, throwing money out
[31:10] is wasteful. I would have to pay
[31:17] $1,000 to cable the tree, and in
[31:19] five years, cut the tree down,
[31:20] at more expense. The cabling is
[31:23] not going to save the tree. The
[31:26] tree is coming apart. It is
[31:28] falling. It's a crack right down
[31:30] the main structure. There's
[31:33] cracks down in those. The photos
[31:36] show it. And where it comes down
[31:38] to is this -- if something
[31:41] happens, whether it is cabled up
[31:43] or not cabled up, and the tree
[31:44] does falter, there is going to
[31:46] be an accident, whether it's
[31:49] hitting my house, hitting the
[31:50] cars, and hopefully not hitting
[31:51] somebody or killing somebody. I
[31:53] am not going to take that
[31:56] responsibility. So, Mr. Mayor,
[32:00] what I'm asking you is, can you
[32:02] look into the people that
[32:08] defined that, no, I shouldn't,
[32:10] which I found out that Giselle
[32:16] has left the company or left the
[32:17] city, so I don't know where my
[32:19] finalize, to overturn it and let
[32:22] the tree come down --
[32:26] >> Okay. The question is an
[32:27] interesting one. That's for a
[32:31] variety of reasons. I mean, do
[32:34] we question the arborists? It's
[32:36] what they do. That's don't want
[32:38] to euthanize animals and
[32:39] arborists don't want to cut down
[32:41] trees if they don't have to. I
[32:43] think it comes with a job.
[32:46] >> -- does state that there are
[32:48] major cracks in it.
[32:49] >> But they say that it can be
[32:51] cabled. I've got to tell you --
[32:53] I grew up -- I lived for 30
[32:55] years in a house where the tree
[32:57] was cables, and it kept growing
[33:01] and lived a happy life. I don't
[33:02] know. I can't speak specifically
[33:05] to yours. What's in question
[33:06] here is the professional opinion
[33:07] of the people who took that, and
[33:09] they certainly know more than
[33:10] you or I do, and I've got to go
[33:13] with it, if that's what they do
[33:14] for a living and they are good
[33:15] at it. And they are specialists
[33:18] in tree care.
[33:20] >> So, then, can I turn it a
[33:22] different way?
[33:23] >> Yep.
[33:24] >> If the tree falls down and
[33:26] makes damages, my insurance is
[33:28] not going to cover it, because
[33:29] the insurance coverage says, if
[33:31] you see a falter, you have to
[33:33] resolve it. I am trying to
[33:35] resolve it.
[33:36] >> Okay.
[33:37] >> So, if there is damage, who
[33:39] is taking liability?
[33:41] >> That's a good question. Madam
[33:45] -- does the city take liability
[33:48] -- it's not to City tree. Okay.
[33:50] >> --
[33:54] >> If it's on a front lawn, and
[33:56] it falls on vehicles, are we
[33:58] responsible? Only if it's our
[34:03] tree? If it's his --
[34:06] >> There is one more factor.
[34:08] You're telling me you can't cut
[34:09] it down. It's a private tree on
[34:12] private property where the
[34:15] arborist says that there has to
[34:16] be measures to keep it --
[34:19] danger, and somebody has to pay
[34:21] for it. So, I'm asking the
[34:22] question about liability. The
[34:25] city has said has -- denied
[34:28] permission to cut the tree down,
[34:30] a private tree. So -- question
[34:33] -- in that situation, if the
[34:35] tree falls and hurts somebody,
[34:37] are we liable?
[34:38] >> That's what I was asking.
[34:45] >> It depends on where the tree
[34:47] is. If it's on your property,
[34:49] obviously, you are responsible
[34:52] for your tree. If it is on our
[34:56] property, on public property, we
[34:59] are responsible for the trees,
[35:02] unless you did something wrong
[35:04] in the maintenance, for
[35:06] instance. So --
[35:09] >> If it is on my property, it
[35:11] is my responsibility. Therefore,
[35:13] I should be able to cut the
[35:14] tree. Correct?
[35:17] >> Yeah, I hear you --
[35:21] >> --
[35:22] >> That's exactly what --
[35:24] >> You need a permit to cut the
[35:26] tree.
[35:27] >> Correct. But, as you said, if
[35:29] the trees on my property --
[35:32] >> Yes.
[35:33] >> -- the permit is for the City
[35:35] to allow me to cut a tree on my
[35:38] property? Or is it --
[35:40] >> The permit is issued by the
[35:43] City to allow you to cut the
[35:45] tree on your property, correct.
[35:48] >> So, if the City does not
[35:50] approve the cutting of the tree
[35:52] --
[35:53] >> If the City does not approve
[35:54] the cutting of the tree, who is
[35:59] responsible for any damages?
[36:01] >> No that's, not the way it
[36:03] works, sir, I'm sorry.
[36:04] >> If the trees on my property,
[36:06] and it's a danger, and the City
[36:08] does not give me the rights to
[36:10] cut the tree, who takes
[36:13] responsibility?
[36:14] >> I don't want to enter into a
[36:16] debate with you tonight. But
[36:18] this is a very interesting
[36:19] question. So, I invite you to
[36:22] call me at my office tomorrow
[36:24] and I will be pleased to
[36:26] elaborate.
[36:27] >> -- hold on, Mayor, I believe
[36:33] you've got my emails. You can
[36:34] pass it over to the lady there.
[36:38] Excuse me? Hello?
[36:39] >> Madame Thibault?
[36:41] >> -- the mayor will send you my
[36:45] emails with all -- the all the
[36:47] documents. And you can come back
[36:48] and tell me what is going on.
[36:50] >> Sure.
[36:51] >> Okay.
[36:52] >> Thank you very much.
[36:54] >> Thanks very much,
[36:58] - André Barry? Mr. Kilpatrick.
[36:59] André
[37:05] Babbis? Did I get it right?
[37:11] >> -- what is below you right
[37:14] here, the windmill. On the sign
[37:17] here, as you know, the windmill
[37:19] is our emblem, the emblem of the
[37:21] City of Pointe-Claire -- which
[37:22] we were once proud of. And over
[37:24] the 40 years, I've seen it
[37:26] slowly, slowly fall apart. The
[37:31] picture has its four original
[37:32] panels. They actually work. Now
[37:33] it has won half panel. There is
[37:36] even a yellow police tape around
[37:38] it to keep people around away
[37:41] from it because they are afraid
[37:42] snow might fall off it. In
[37:44] contrast with this, Mr. Mayor
[37:50] and Council, the City of
[37:53] Île-Perrot has -- they've made
[37:55] it a tourist attraction. They
[37:56] have guided tours. I would
[37:58] invite you to look at their
[37:59] website, which is very well
[38:01] done. They have financial
[38:02] partners. My question, Mr.
[38:06] Mayor, does the city have a plan
[38:09] to repair this windmill and get
[38:10] it back to its original state?
[38:13] We
[38:14] >> Are very close.
[38:16] >> --
[38:17] >> We are very close. We have
[38:18] been working on it for about a
[38:19] year now. We are working out the
[38:20] details on it. I might point
[38:22] out, though, also, that I think
[38:25] in all the Perreault Île-Perrot
[38:30] --
[38:33] >> No, it's owned by the
[38:36] Government of Québec --
[38:37] >> That is the difference.
[38:38] >> That is the difference.
[38:40] >> -- I asked if the city was
[38:42] planning to buy the windmill,
[38:45] and she said, no. There is no
[38:47] plan to buy it. Is that correct?
[38:50] >> Well, there have been
[38:51] attempts. There has been a hard
[38:53] time dividing the property of
[38:56] the convent and the windmill in
[38:58] a separate sales items. So, they
[39:00] have tended to go together. And
[39:02] the archdiocese has not wanted
[39:04] to sell the entire property, nor
[39:07] does the city probably want to
[39:09] purchase the whole thing. But
[39:10] have been some attempts in the
[39:11] past. I don't know them
[39:13] specifically. There have been
[39:14] attempts. So, we have arranged
[39:17] -- organize to arrange a deal
[39:19] which will circumvent that. And
[39:20] we are trying to finalize it. We
[39:22] are getting close. It is not
[39:24] there yet. But there are some
[39:25] details to be worked out.
[39:27] >> In my previous life as a
[39:29] lawyer, has you considered a new
[39:32] -- a long term lease? Such as --
[39:36] property, apparently belongs to
[39:39] the Franciscan's, believe it or
[39:40] not. They gave it for a 99
[39:45] renewable long term lease -- the
[39:47] concept could be interesting for
[39:48] the city and you don't have to
[39:50] bail out money to buy it. You
[39:52] least for a certain amount every
[39:53] year and then you have the
[39:57] possession and you can compare
[39:58] it.
[39:59] >> Yeah. It would, of course,
[40:00] depend on the amount.
[40:01] >> -- you are saying we are very
[40:03] close. So, we can expect
[40:04] something --
[40:05] >> Well, we will see. We can
[40:08] expect something one way or the
[40:12] other --
[40:13] >> -- the periodic please might
[40:16] be a answer to the solution. A
[40:18] question, a different subject --
[40:24] leaves blowers. Our neighbour
[40:26] has four of them coming in every
[40:28] two weeks, three weeks in the
[40:30] summer. Not only to blow leads
[40:32] but to blow grass. So, they've
[40:35] -- for Un bruit infernal. About
[40:36] two hours. You see, Beaconsfield
[40:39] has a lot of them. -- electrical
[40:43] ones, at certain times. Has the
[40:47] city consider doing something
[40:49] about some kind of a
[40:54] >> It's a debate. It's up there
[40:56] with -- there are a few --
[40:59] >> --
[41:00] >> Speed bumps are debates. Leaf
[41:01] blowers are debates.
[41:03] >> Okay.
[41:04] >> These are all items that are
[41:05] there that are up for debate. It
[41:07] remains to be seen. I am not a
[41:09] huge fan of them myself, the gas
[41:12] powered ones. But I can't speak
[41:13] for --
[41:15] >> Electrical ones make one
[41:16] tenth the noise. So, that might
[41:19] also be way less noisy than the
[41:22] gas ones. It could be an
[41:24] intermediate solution.
[41:25] >> It's a good suggestion. I'm
[41:27] not against it.
[41:31] >> --
[41:32] >> A third one --
[41:34] >> And then I'm through -- the
[41:39] coronation of traffic lights on
[41:41] Saint John --
[41:42] >> Guys, guys --
[41:45] >> This is what I'm told, this
[41:46] is what I'm told --
[41:47] >> There is no one there
[41:50] sometimes. It's recurrent all
[41:51] the time. And yet, one street
[41:53] over that way, one street over
[41:56] that way, no problem --
[41:58] >> They are not perfect, though.
[42:00] Everyone --
[42:03] >> Perfectly synchronized --
[42:04] >> Saint John seems to be --
[42:08] having driven all three I have
[42:09] not noticed that.
[42:11] >> Point Saint John --
[42:12] >> I find red lights on all
[42:14] three of them. I've stopped on
[42:16] all three of them but from what
[42:18] I am told and I am not an expert
[42:21] -- disinclination is there but
[42:23] when I walk signal is push it
[42:25] throws off the synchronization.
[42:26] This is what I have been told by
[42:29] my experts. I hear you, though.
[42:31] >> Anyways --
[42:34] >> Sorry, you can only
[42:37] synchronize one side at a time
[42:38] too. Like, you can't have all
[42:40] the lights green going north and
[42:41] south at the same time. It
[42:43] doesn't work that way.
[42:45] >> Okay. Okay.
[42:47] >> Because then all the lights
[42:48] would just be green, endless,
[42:50] only going north and south and
[42:51] never going east and west. So,
[42:53] that is a problem. We have had
[42:54] had DDO DDOs -- so that the
[43:02] entire length of Saint-Jean's is
[43:05] well coordinated. But what I
[43:06] found is, it depends on where
[43:07] you are coming, from and the
[43:09] time. They have been planned
[43:10] for, I guess, peak traffic times
[43:12] but. If you are coming off the
[43:16] 40 westbound going south, then
[43:19] -- yes -- you get red lights all
[43:20] the way down. That is
[43:22] guaranteed. That is just how
[43:23] they are sink
[43:29] synced -- but also, when someone
[43:32] pushes the cross, it throws --
[43:35] >> -- and it does not happen..
[43:38] >> It's because we have
[43:40] pedestrian priority.
[43:41] >> But there is less pedestrians
[43:44] on both those streets?
[43:45] >> No, we have pedestrian
[43:47] priority and they don't
[43:48] necessarily have pedestrian
[43:49] priority.
[43:51] >> Anyways -- thanks for your
[43:53] time.
[43:54] >> Thank you, Mr. Babbis --
[43:56] >> I will be looking forward to
[43:58] a -- on the --
[44:03] >> David MacLachlan?
[44:13] ,
[44:14] >> Good evening. I'm here to
[44:16] follow up on a question that I
[44:17] had at the beginning of 2022,
[44:22] with climate change. At that
[44:24] time, in the Council's attention
[44:30] -- the inter governmental panel
[44:32] on climate change. It calls for
[44:35] radical action to limit
[44:37] greenhouse gases, specifically
[44:40] the IPCC states that emissions
[44:41] need to be reduced by 45%
[44:44] compared with 2010 levels in
[44:46] order to limit global
[44:48] temperature increases to --
[44:50] degrees Celsius. I was
[44:52] disappointed with the response
[44:54] that I received in 2022. Because
[44:56] it stopped short of
[44:58] acknowledging that radical
[44:59] action was necessary.
[45:00] Nonetheless, there was an
[45:02] acknowledgement that the City
[45:03] needs to do better, which was
[45:04] better than nothing. Since then,
[45:07] the situation has gotten worse
[45:09] and there is now, in the past
[45:11] week, we learned that there are
[45:12] parts of California where you
[45:14] cannot ensure your house anymore
[45:16] because of wildfires. -- here in
[45:21] Québec -- the wild fires
[45:23] earlier, but you neglected to
[45:24] mention one of the -- important
[45:26] factors. I will quote an article
[45:28] from CTV. It's a simple fact
[45:30] that Canada is experiencing the
[45:32] impacts of climate change,
[45:34] including more and more extreme
[45:35] wildfires. Said natural
[45:38] resources minister Minister
[45:40] Jonathan Wilson Wilkinson --
[45:44] projected projected to double by
[45:46] -- changing climate, causing
[45:48] longer, more intense wildfire
[45:50] seasons and more extreme -- and
[45:55] increasing drought. -- smoke
[45:58] from wildfires my question is,
[46:01] what specific actions has the
[46:02] city taken in the last year to
[46:05] reduce its greenhouse gas
[46:07] emissions?
[46:08] >> What have we done? We have
[46:10] been very diligent on preventing
[46:11] the cutting of trees, which is
[46:13] substantial. We have moved to
[46:16] electric vehicles as much as we
[46:18] can. We have tried to ensure
[46:20] environmental building practices
[46:22] on new constructions. These are
[46:25] a few that I can come up with. I
[46:26] am sure there are more.
[46:31] >> Those are the ones that --
[46:35] >> What does that --
[46:36] >> -- apparently, if every
[46:39] person stop a tree from being
[46:40] cut, we could save the world, we
[46:42] could say the ozone layer, we
[46:44] could save everything.
[46:46] Apparently, trees can save our
[46:47] lives and not cutting them is
[46:49] one of the -- far greater than
[46:51] producing these of the
[46:52] automobile. And --
[46:56] >> You are absolutely mistaken.
[46:59] I don't think so.
[47:00] >> It would take three times the
[47:03] size of Pointe-Claire planted
[47:06] with trees to cancel out the
[47:08] emissions that we generate. --
[47:10] we don't have an area three
[47:12] times the area of Pointe-Claire.
[47:13] What we need to do in this city
[47:15] is reduce our greenhouse gas
[47:17] emissions. And that is what my
[47:19] question was about. My follow-up
[47:22] question is, do you think we are
[47:24] doing enough?
[47:25] >> No. We can keep, going
[47:27] absolutely. There are all kinds
[47:29] of technologies that we can use
[47:30] to reduce greenhouse gas
[47:32] emissions. And they have not
[47:33] been implemented yet. Many -- we
[47:36] can go to electric leaf blowers
[47:38] as opposed to gas once. There
[47:40] are many ways we can reduce. We
[47:42] could have natural gardens on
[47:44] all of our front lawns. That's a
[47:46] nice way -- there are many, many
[47:48] --
[47:49] >> Sorry -- greenhouse gas
[47:50] emissions --
[47:51] >> You create more greenery and
[47:53] therefore you increase the
[47:55] oxygen levels and less -- it's
[47:59] been proven, has it not? I mean,
[48:01] that's what most
[48:03] environmentalist have taught me.
[48:05] I'm not an expert but --
[48:06] >> --
[48:07] >> I think solving the problem
[48:10] requires individual efforts of
[48:12] everybody around the world on a
[48:14] constant basis. -- that's why we
[48:15] were cycle properly. That's why
[48:17] we do things in our homes
[48:19] individually. And I was at a
[48:21] meeting this morning about water
[48:22] consumption and how you just
[48:24] reduce a dripping tap. You can
[48:26] preserve so much water in one
[48:27] home. And if citizens across all
[48:29] cities or countries can reduce
[48:31] the dripping tap it would have a
[48:33] huge impact. So, fighting
[48:36] environmental -- or trying to
[48:37] prevent the environmental crisis
[48:39] is all about responsibility in
[48:41] every individual that we can on
[48:42] a constant basis. And
[48:44] denigrating any attempt by
[48:45] anyone to do so defeats the
[48:47] purpose, Mr. McGill aqua.
[48:57] McLaughlin
[49:00] >> --
[49:01] >> --
[49:02] >> Do you?
[49:04] >> NASA, for example, published
[49:06] a study looking at what we would
[49:07] have to do as a society to
[49:12] cancel out -- greenhouse gas
[49:16] emissions down to -- they looked
[49:17] at what it would take on a
[49:19] worldwide basis. They concluded
[49:22] that if we reinforced it every
[49:24] possible corner of the planet,
[49:26] it would provide about 20 years
[49:29] of greenhouse gas emissions. We
[49:32] don't have that kind of real
[49:35] estate in Pointe-Claire. What we
[49:36] do have is a lot of cars and, in
[49:39] my view, what we need to do is
[49:41] stop using so many cars. And we
[49:46] need to cut down on the energy
[49:49] that is consumed by our
[49:51] buildings by telling people that
[49:52] they can solve the problem by
[49:54] planting nice gardens, you are
[49:57] avoiding the real problem.
[49:59] >> It's not avoiding. It's one
[50:01] way you can solve it. One of
[50:03] many ways you can solve it. And
[50:05] by precluding all other ways is
[50:06] not the solution either. I
[50:08] think, if anybody can, in any
[50:11] way, shape, or form, then they
[50:12] should do so. And to denigrate
[50:14] any of them and say, others are
[50:16] more important, is limiting all
[50:17] of our attempts to save the
[50:19] planet, in my opinion, sir.
[50:34] -- Conway?
[50:41] >> Good evening, Mayor Thomas,
[50:42] Council. So, I participated in
[50:46] the -- workshop with the new
[50:48] planning program, with the firm
[50:54] Pour l'enregistrement,
[50:56] pouvez-vous être plus proche du
[50:57] micro?
[51:12] -- anything of what I said?
[51:16] >> We'll --
[51:17] >> Start again?
[51:19] >> Start again, why not.
[51:21] >> I participate in the --
[51:23] planning program, with the firm
[51:25] PC2. And the first topic,
[51:27] actually, was -- I'm going to
[51:28] touch on the previous subject.
[51:30] The first question or topic was
[51:32] about bicycles. So, here's a
[51:33] question about how many people
[51:35] bike as a main mode of
[51:38] transportation. And then, I
[51:40] noticed, after that conversation
[51:44] spilled in social media. So, I
[51:47] think biking is wonderful. But,
[51:49] actually, I have kind of given
[51:50] up on biking to cross the
[51:53] highways, 40 and 20, because the
[51:56] condition is too -- I would go
[51:57] with my family biking until it
[52:00] bizarre
[52:09] L'île-Bizard -- I think it's
[52:13] wonderful to be able to bike.
[52:14] But I don't bike, also, when
[52:17] it's raining or winter, or very
[52:18] cold. So, I can't do that. But I
[52:20] think the idea of biking is very
[52:22] good. And -- on the topic,
[52:25] previously, how about when you
[52:28] consider building new condos,
[52:29] how about instead of allocating
[52:31] a parking spot, why don't we
[52:33] give tenants biking spots? That
[52:36] could help with our situation.
[52:38] >> Is that your question?
[52:40] >> --
[52:41] >> That's already happening and
[52:43] --
[52:44] >> --
[52:45] >> There are already biking
[52:46] spots. And I agree with you,
[52:47] there need to be more of them. I
[52:49] also agree -- and also to speak
[52:51] to Mr. McLaughlin's point, we've
[52:53] also done a fair amount of bike
[52:57] paths recently, which is one of
[52:58] the many ways that -- and
[53:02] Councillor Tremblay Spence's
[53:03] life on a bike, most of the
[53:05] time. More so than me. I have a
[53:07] problem in Pointe-Claire going
[53:10] south -- and you are going over
[53:13] the 40 or 20, it's tricky. But,
[53:16] I'm sorry, I digress.
[53:18] >> So, is there a situation for
[53:20] how there could be a solution
[53:22] rather when it's raining or very
[53:24] cold or winter, snowing? There's
[53:27] 30 centimetres. I don't know how
[53:29] people can continue to use
[53:31] biking as their main mode of
[53:33] transportation in those
[53:34] situations. I don't know -- it's
[53:35] not an answer tonight, but the
[53:37] --
[53:38] >> Well, they are developing
[53:39] bikes that can actually do it.
[53:40] There are bikes you can ride
[53:41] right through the winter and
[53:42] they are getting quite good at
[53:46] it.
[53:47] >> Okay.
[53:48] >> It's whether you are sturdy
[53:49] enough as a human being to do
[53:51] it. That's the issue.
[53:52] >> And how about easing some of
[53:55] the traffic on Saint-Jean's?
[53:58] We've got the streets -- and
[54:01] still view and Del Mar. If you
[54:03] open up still view through the
[54:04] highway to Somerset, and if you
[54:06] open up Del Mar through the --
[54:10] it will ease up some of the
[54:12] traffic on Saint-Jean because
[54:13] all the construction that
[54:15] happened is -- and L'île-Bizard,
[54:18] it just brought more traffic on
[54:20] Saint-Jean. So, why is this
[54:23] never done or has it ever been
[54:25] considered? Is there going to be
[54:26] a day when it is done?
[54:29] >> It's a good question. Not
[54:30] that I can see on the horizon.
[54:35] Certainly on the L'île-Bizard --
[54:37] extension is one that has been
[54:38] on the books for a long, long
[54:40] time, and would be a huge want
[54:42] to help us alleviate the strain
[54:47] on Saint-Jean's -- the others I
[54:50] am not sure of. I know that
[54:52] often gets used a lot,
[54:54] unfortunately, to circumvent a
[54:56] lot of the Saint-Jean
[54:57] circulation. I don't don't know
[54:59] about the extensions of the
[55:00] others. Do any of you -- Madam
[55:05] --
[55:06] >> Not that I know. The other
[55:09] one was L'île-Bizard --
[55:10] discussed a couple of years ago.
[55:13] >> So, not that I know of.
[55:16] >> So --
[55:18] >> The L'île-Bizard -- the most
[55:20] --
[55:22] >> On -- Saint-Jean because it's
[55:24] the most treacherous --
[55:26] >> Yes, it is.
[55:28] >> -- it's kind of said that we
[55:30] are being encouraged to bike.
[55:32] But I'm just biking around my
[55:35] own neighbourhood.
[55:38] >> North to south in
[55:41] Pointe-Claire, even on public
[55:43] transit, is it difficult. -- so,
[55:45] we have to resolve that.
[55:47] Somehow, going forward, we have
[55:50] to -- I think Jacques-Bizard is
[55:51] a hugely important one. The cars
[55:54] everything is going to
[55:55] bottleneck in Pointe-Claire if
[55:56] we don't do that. So, it's a
[55:58] serious issue.
[55:59] >> Okay. Thank you for listening
[56:00] to my question.
[56:02] >> -- comments with regard to
[56:04] those questions and, in a way,
[56:06] answer part of McLaughlin's
[56:08] comments, statements. So, I do
[56:10] ride my bike quite a bit around
[56:11] town. I have been doing that
[56:13] since I was a teenager, whenever
[56:16] I could ride it. The solution is
[56:18] pretty simple when it comes to
[56:19] bikes. It's by a helmet, get a
[56:22] bike, and just get out there,
[56:25] and start moving along. It's a
[56:26] lot easier than you think. The
[56:29] bike path network that we have
[56:30] out here in Pointe-Claire is
[56:32] beginning to improve
[56:34] substantially, thanks to work
[56:35] that was done by previous
[56:38] administrations. And hopefully,
[56:39] we can add to that. One of the
[56:41] things that I shared with
[56:42] council members recently is, I
[56:44] actually followed some of the
[56:46] paths that took me out of the
[56:47] way from riding in a direct line
[56:49] to where I wanted to go. And I
[56:50] was able to avoid cars, simply
[56:53] by following these different
[56:54] paths. So, what we are really
[56:57] missing north-south, as
[56:59] everybody has talked about --
[57:00] the good news is, we are in a
[57:03] position now, if I remember, Mr.
[57:06] Mayor, regarding the bridge --
[57:08] that we have, now, with the
[57:10] federal government, acquired
[57:11] funding that will help us to
[57:14] develop a path for foot traffic
[57:16] and four bikes as well. So, the
[57:22] more people out there on bikes,
[57:24] the higher the volume of people
[57:26] riding that way. If you are cars
[57:28] there will be -- it becomes
[57:33] contagious, in some ways.
[57:35] Everybody else wants to get on
[57:38] and start writing. I would
[57:39] encourage -- to do that. As far
[57:43] as climate change -- hopefully
[57:46] walked or took your bike. I am
[57:48] aware that you have two cars. Is
[57:50] it just one? Just going from
[57:53] your place and talking to -- I
[57:54] know you. But one of the --
[57:57] >> --
[57:58] >> I'm sorry? I meant it as a --
[58:02] >> Excuse me, Councillor -- that
[58:03] is not your call.
[58:07] >> --
[58:08] >> That's not your co-, sir.
[58:11] >> This was not meant as a
[58:15] criticism of Mr. McLaughlin. We
[58:17] have to do what we have to do in
[58:18] life. But one of the ways to
[58:20] circumvent the problem is to --
[58:22] take the STM as much as you
[58:25] possibly can. It's not a
[58:27] complete solution. -- there's so
[58:28] much to discuss. I don't want to
[58:30] take -- to go over the climate
[58:33] change issues. But I just
[58:34] encourage everybody, the next
[58:35] time you come out to one of
[58:36] these meetings, walk or take a
[58:38] bike. And that will contribute
[58:40] to -- the other last point I
[58:42] would like to make is
[58:43] collaboration with the other
[58:45] cities so that we could work
[58:47] more effectively at pressuring
[58:50] the powers that be,
[58:51] provincially, federally, in some
[58:53] ways, truly organize ourselves
[58:55] property in mass transit.
[58:59] >> When into take that seriously
[59:01] and start investing seriously
[59:02] and that dome in.
[59:03] >> Thank you. We
[59:06] >> I would like to answer. You
[59:08] are seeing put your helmet and
[59:10] go, but, like, my point was,
[59:13] there are risks. Last year, I
[59:16] almost got hit by a bus on
[59:18] Lakeshore. My family was behind
[59:20] me. So, there are risks. Every
[59:22] year, we hear about people
[59:25] getting hit and, you know,
[59:29] accidents. So, that was my
[59:32] point, to make things safer,
[59:34] before we can just put the
[59:35] helmet and go. As it is now,
[59:37] it's just around my little
[59:39] neighbourhood where I feel
[59:40] safest. I'm not really, I can't
[59:42] really go get my groceries. I
[59:43] can't go to maxi and go get my
[59:46] groceries biking.
[59:48] >> You can. I mean, you can do
[59:50] it. It's not easy, but you can
[59:52] do it. I can get to a maxi, I
[59:54] can't from Pointe-Claire south.
[59:58] I understand.
[59:59] >> If I were to take my family
[1:00:00] with me, you know, I'm concerned
[1:00:02] about my kids in the back. Susan
[1:00:07] Wilson?
[1:00:22] Bonjour, je n'ai pas besoin de
[1:00:25] dire mon, non si vous avez dit
[1:00:26] mon nom. Il y avait une réunion,
[1:00:35] vous étiez censé l'avoir au
[1:00:36] début de l'année avec la Ville
[1:00:38] de Montréal, pour la fluos
[1:00:39] réalise, la fluoration de l'eau
[1:00:41] à Pointe-Claire.
[1:00:43] - Quelle réunion?
[1:00:46] - Vous auriez eu une réunion.
[1:00:48] - On a parlé avec
[1:00:51] l'agglomération au sujet de
[1:00:52] l'eau fluorée, oui. Nous sommes
[1:00:54] responsables.
[1:00:57] - Vous étiez supposé revenir.
[1:01:00] - On a déjà donné toute cette
[1:01:02] information.
[1:01:03] - Je ne l'ai pas eu, moi.
[1:01:04] C'était au début de cette année
[1:01:05] cette réunion.
[1:01:08] - On a parlé plusieurs fois de
[1:01:09] ça. Je n'ai pas les faits devant
[1:01:10] moi.
[1:01:14] Je peux les trouver encore une
[1:01:15] fois.
[1:01:17] - Grosso modo, qu'est-ce qui est
[1:01:18] arrivé?
[1:01:20] - C'est le même résultat que
[1:01:23] toujours. La science est dans le
[1:01:26] domaine de l'agglomération qui
[1:01:29] sont responsables de la Floride
[1:01:30] ça scions à Pointe-Claire.
[1:01:33] - Vous avez dit que c'est allé
[1:01:34] maire de chaque municipalité qui
[1:01:38] décidait.
[1:01:39] - Non, c'est l'agglomération qui
[1:01:41] décide.
[1:01:42] - La décision revenait au maire?
[1:01:43] - Non. La décision finale, assez
[1:01:45] l'agglomération. Absolument.
[1:01:46] - O.K.. Ma deuxième question.
[1:01:51] Vous faites des assemblage pour
[1:01:53] économiser l'eau. Est-ce que
[1:01:55] c'est possible d'en faire
[1:01:58] anti-fluor pour ceux qui n'en
[1:01:59] veulent pas?
[1:02:00] - Bonne question, si la science
[1:02:01] existe, c'est possible.
[1:02:04] - Il y en a une, c'est l'osmose
[1:02:05] à l'inverse.
[1:02:11] Je ne peux pas dire non, j'ai
[1:02:13] aucune idée. On peut peut-être
[1:02:14] faire une recherche.
[1:02:16] - Osmose inverse.
[1:02:17] - Si c'est facile.
[1:02:21] - Je ne sais pas si vous avez
[1:02:23] autre chose.
[1:02:24] - Sait-on jamais. On peut faire
[1:02:27] la recherche.
[1:02:29] - Vous reviendrez avec ça pour
[1:02:31] la prochaine réunion.
[1:02:33] - Peut-être, oui, ça dépend de
[1:02:34] l'administration. On va chercher
[1:02:38] si c'est trop cher, si c'est
[1:02:40] possible, si ça existe, si c'est
[1:02:43] indisponible. Sait-on jamais.
[1:02:45] - O.K., c'est tout.
[1:02:46] - Merci
[1:02:49] >> Kim Freeman?
[1:02:55] >> Hi, everybody. I've got a
[1:02:58] short preamble, but before I
[1:02:59] start, I would like to say that
[1:03:02] I agree that it's about time.
[1:03:06] Climate change, there's not one
[1:03:07] solution, but many. We need to
[1:03:09] get rid of greenhouse gases,
[1:03:12] plant trees, and native plant
[1:03:14] gardens can do a lot. Just left!
[1:03:19] Anyway, if anybody wants to see
[1:03:20] what's going on in my yard, you
[1:03:21] are all welcome. 165 sunnyside.
[1:03:25] Now, also, I did a talk at the
[1:03:27] library on May 17th and it's up
[1:03:30] on Vimeo finally. Denis just
[1:03:33] called us today, so if you want
[1:03:34] to have a look at that, go for
[1:03:35] it. Or come and visit, that is
[1:03:37] good. Okay, now, by way of
[1:03:39] introduction, my name is Kim
[1:03:41] Freeman. I live at 165 sunnyside
[1:03:43] Avenue near Arthur Seguin Park.
[1:03:45] I'm one of Cynthia's kids. We've
[1:03:49] lived there for 42 years. My
[1:03:52] husband's family moved to
[1:03:53] Pointe-Claire in 1946. They
[1:03:55] bought the lakeshore news and
[1:03:57] publish the award winning
[1:03:58] newspaper for more than 30
[1:03:59] years. We even had a relative
[1:04:01] who came to Pointe-Claire after
[1:04:03] the American revolution and
[1:04:04] opened an apothecary at the
[1:04:05] village in the 1970s. Our roots
[1:04:08] here are deep. We love living in
[1:04:09] Pointe-Claire and care about it
[1:04:10] deeply, for its future. More and
[1:04:13] more, I feel that we must take
[1:04:15] another direction with regards
[1:04:16] to environmental statements,
[1:04:18] sustainability. Terracotta and
[1:04:20] the butterfly and pollinator
[1:04:22] gardens are great initiatives to
[1:04:23] educate citizens, and we need to
[1:04:25] expand on that. The fact is,
[1:04:28] don't hate me for this, the fact
[1:04:30] is, Lance are simply not good
[1:04:32] for the environment. That is not
[1:04:33] an easy thing to wrap peoples
[1:04:35] heads around, especially those
[1:04:36] who love their lawns, and I get
[1:04:37] it. I was raised in a house with
[1:04:40] a nice lawn, as well as my
[1:04:42] husband. My conversion to a
[1:04:43] large native garden was very
[1:04:45] gradual, almost incremental. It
[1:04:47] took a lot of research and soul
[1:04:48] searching to admit that Lance
[1:04:49] are, in essence, detrimental for
[1:04:51] the environment. Lawns are the
[1:04:53] most irrigated crop in North
[1:04:55] America. In the U.S., more gases
[1:04:57] spilled filling long care
[1:04:59] devices every summer than it was
[1:05:00] lost in the Exxon Valdez
[1:05:02] disaster. That's every summer.
[1:05:05] Turf grass, which makes up the
[1:05:06] bulk of Lance, has very short
[1:05:07] root systems, which require a
[1:05:08] lot of water to keep them
[1:05:10] looking lush and green. Sadly,
[1:05:12] much of that water simply runs
[1:05:13] off the lawn and does not soak
[1:05:15] in. We here in Pointe-Claire are
[1:05:18] fortunate enough to live in one
[1:05:19] of the richest countries on the
[1:05:22] planet and in one of the most
[1:05:23] prosperous and privileged
[1:05:24] communities in Canada. It is
[1:05:26] incumbent on us to do our own
[1:05:28] part to mitigate the effects of
[1:05:30] climate change. All one has to
[1:05:32] do is look around and see the
[1:05:34] devastation brought by the
[1:05:35] hundreds of ongoing forest fires
[1:05:36] across Canada. While we are
[1:05:38] lucky enough to have plentiful
[1:05:39] clean water now, this will most
[1:05:41] likely not be the case in the
[1:05:43] future. My point is that if
[1:05:45] people want their lawns, so be
[1:05:47] it. But I do not believe
[1:05:49] Pointe-Claire should make any
[1:05:50] attempt to legislate the efforts
[1:05:51] of those who want to do
[1:05:52] something more environmentally
[1:05:54] responsible with the property
[1:05:55] that surrounds their house. Any
[1:05:57] such bylaw would be cumbersome
[1:05:58] for the City to administer and
[1:06:00] police. It would only serve to
[1:06:02] discourage many residents from
[1:06:03] even trying. Rather, I would
[1:06:06] encourage the City to educate
[1:06:08] the assist homeowners in such an
[1:06:09] endeavour. There are many such
[1:06:11] programs throughout the world
[1:06:12] and this trend is only getting
[1:06:14] started. Developing native
[1:06:16] pollinator gardens can be
[1:06:17] equally beautiful, as any lawn
[1:06:19] and incredibly satisfying.
[1:06:21] Finally, if we do not do it,
[1:06:23] then who will? My question is
[1:06:25] the following. What is the city
[1:06:27] planning to do with if anything
[1:06:29] regarding the natural native,
[1:06:31] excuse me, pollinator gardens
[1:06:33] that citizens have developed or
[1:06:34] might want to develop? Thank
[1:06:36] you.
[1:06:38] >> Okay, well, I can't speak for
[1:06:39] all of Council on that one, but
[1:06:41] I think there are many,
[1:06:43] including the mayor, who very
[1:06:45] much like the possibility of
[1:06:47] natural gardens. I think they
[1:06:48] are one of the solutions which I
[1:06:49] was giving to Mr. McLeod Flynn
[1:06:50] as well. Which I think is quite
[1:06:56] important. And one way as
[1:06:58] citizens we can do it, and I've
[1:07:00] seen some of the ones, I've seen
[1:07:02] yours, and I've seen a few
[1:07:03] others that I found really quite
[1:07:04] attractive. The problem with
[1:07:06] natural gardens, of course, is
[1:07:07] that they are not attractive at
[1:07:08] first, for quite awhile. And
[1:07:12] therein lies the problem. People
[1:07:14] don't like them. But
[1:07:15] >> I think we can work towards
[1:07:19] changing that. It is difficult
[1:07:21] initially. I think there's a we
[1:07:23] need to educate people about
[1:07:24] what might be going on and in a
[1:07:27] garden, as it's developed, and
[1:07:29] the people who are doing these
[1:07:30] gardens, perhaps that would be
[1:07:31] part of the education is how to
[1:07:33] make it more appealing for
[1:07:36] people who do not understand.
[1:07:39] That was why I was trying to do
[1:07:40] it in my top, as well, there's a
[1:07:42] new book by Benjamin Floyd, he's
[1:07:44] written a couple. I've only read
[1:07:46] the first one. He's working on
[1:07:49] restoring tall grass prairies in
[1:07:51] Wisconsin and he has some ideas
[1:07:53] for perhaps making it more
[1:07:54] appealing. I think this city
[1:07:57] maybe we can, I don't know, find
[1:08:00] a way to develop this idea
[1:08:02] further.
[1:08:03] >> Me too, me too. We are
[1:08:05] actually starting our own
[1:08:07] initiative along, or we may be
[1:08:09] starting one with the city
[1:08:10] itself in the near future. I
[1:08:11] don't know if I can speak to it
[1:08:13] yet. But we are thinking, as a
[1:08:15] city, of initiating our own in
[1:08:17] our own way.
[1:08:19] >> Thank you very much, thank
[1:08:20] you. You are all welcome to come
[1:08:21] over.
[1:08:27] >> 165 sunnyside, Kim? That's
[1:08:28] it, okay.
[1:08:29] [Inaudible]
[1:08:31] >> That is my favourite, be
[1:08:32] careful. Elizabeth Stein son, or
[1:08:37] Stinson? Elizabeth? Hey!
[1:08:41] [Inaudible]
[1:08:46] [Laughter]
[1:08:51] >> So, at least you didn't come
[1:08:53] to ask a question. Do you want
[1:08:55] one, though? While you have the
[1:08:56] opportunity.
[1:08:57] [Inaudible]
[1:09:10] [Inaudible]
[1:09:13] >> Interesting. Thank you, Liz.
[1:09:18] Katie Hadley?
[1:09:27] >> I think this is the right
[1:09:29] height for me. Can you hear me?
[1:09:30] Okay, all right. Good evening,
[1:09:32] Mister Mayor.
[1:09:33] >> -- is ready, there we go.
[1:09:35] >> I guess, okay. As you can
[1:09:36] see, I'm part of the collective
[1:09:38] Northview voice. I will say this
[1:09:40] silver lining to this, rather
[1:09:41] exhaustive and discouraging
[1:09:43] process, has been meeting many
[1:09:44] of the neighbours I had not met
[1:09:46] before. It's been an excellent
[1:09:47] experience to bring the
[1:09:48] community together, so I'm
[1:09:50] taking that with me in this
[1:09:51] process. So, I will echo a
[1:09:54] little bit of what Sarah is
[1:09:55] saying, but I would like to say
[1:09:56] that the collective Northview
[1:09:58] voice has not diminished in this
[1:10:00] process and, in fact, it's
[1:10:02] growing considerably louder.
[1:10:03] Resulting in increasing the
[1:10:04] number of signatures on our
[1:10:06] original petition, when we first
[1:10:07] started this, by 143%. So, to
[1:10:10] me, the voice is there, it's
[1:10:12] loud. And I know you're probably
[1:10:13] tired of hearing our opinion and
[1:10:15] I know you want to close this
[1:10:16] chapter, trust me, I do too, and
[1:10:18] move on, but we, as your
[1:10:20] citizens, cannot in good
[1:10:21] conscious give up this fight
[1:10:22] because preserving Northview
[1:10:24] Park and all that it brings our
[1:10:26] community is an issue worth
[1:10:28] fighting for. That being said, I
[1:10:30] never wanted this to be a fight.
[1:10:32] I asked at the last council
[1:10:34] meeting we, as citizens, could
[1:10:35] be involved, how we could use
[1:10:37] our voice constructively, and
[1:10:38] how we could help bring our
[1:10:40] frontline park user perspective
[1:10:41] to be part of the future of our
[1:10:43] beloved Park. We were encouraged
[1:10:45] to keep showing up, to keep
[1:10:47] sharing our opinions, to keep
[1:10:48] being engaged citizens. So, we
[1:10:51] did. We wrote emails, we
[1:10:53] researched facts, we suggested
[1:10:54] alternatives, we brought our
[1:10:56] perspective to the wider
[1:10:57] community, through the media. We
[1:10:59] proposed a win, win situation,
[1:11:00] based on logic and facts. And I
[1:11:02] would like to highlight that
[1:11:03] over this entire process, we
[1:11:05] have done our best to provide
[1:11:07] comprehensive information and
[1:11:09] suggestions and overall, we have
[1:11:11] remained patient and respectful
[1:11:12] in our delivery. I appreciated
[1:11:14] the information session that was
[1:11:15] given as a result to our
[1:11:18] requests last time. But
[1:11:19] ultimately, it was a
[1:11:20] presentation of the project and
[1:11:22] the aspects. It was not a
[1:11:23] dialogue or discussion that
[1:11:25] could provide a clear,
[1:11:27] comprehensive answer, as to why
[1:11:29] this project was selected for
[1:11:31] Northview Park. And it, sadly,
[1:11:33] did not feel like an opportunity
[1:11:34] to be heard, but rather, an
[1:11:35] opportunity to be told. So, our
[1:11:39] plight continued. Late nights of
[1:11:41] finding time to write carefully
[1:11:42] thought out emails, expressing
[1:11:43] all of our reasons, our
[1:11:45] concerns, our suggestions, and
[1:11:48] emails that, quite honestly,
[1:11:49] felt like they got sent off into
[1:11:51] the abyss of city hall. And I
[1:11:53] understand that not all emails
[1:11:54] can be answered, you are busy
[1:11:55] people, there's stuff going on.
[1:11:57] But I would like to provide the
[1:11:59] feedback that the gesture of
[1:12:00] maybe even an auto reply to at
[1:12:04] least acknowledge a receipt of
[1:12:06] an email would feel more
[1:12:07] respectful than no response at
[1:12:08] all. So, that's just a side
[1:12:09] note. I didn't know where they
[1:12:11] went to, how they got there. It
[1:12:12] would help that process, I
[1:12:14] think. And I understand that
[1:12:15] those of you who voted for the
[1:12:16] fence to be included believe in
[1:12:19] your decision and that you think
[1:12:20] that those of us who do not
[1:12:21] agree, well, we will need to
[1:12:23] adapt and accept the fence. But
[1:12:24] I have trouble accepting this,
[1:12:26] and I have trouble understanding
[1:12:28] why our opinion cannot have an
[1:12:29] influence in this situation.
[1:12:32] We've confirmed with baseball
[1:12:33] Québec that baseball can
[1:12:34] continue, as it has for 40
[1:12:35] years, without the fence. We've
[1:12:37] confirmed that there was no
[1:12:38] injury claims related to a
[1:12:40] situation that could've been
[1:12:41] prevented, had there been a
[1:12:42] fence. We have confirmed that
[1:12:44] the contract can be amended and
[1:12:46] other needed upgrades to the
[1:12:47] baseball area can still be put
[1:12:48] in place. But in addition to all
[1:12:51] those facts, we've also
[1:12:52] confirmed that all of us here,
[1:12:54] and all of us who signed the
[1:12:55] petition, do not agree with the
[1:12:57] decision to include the outfield
[1:12:58] fence in Northview Park. That
[1:13:01] opinion should matter, that
[1:13:02] opinion should be heard. We are
[1:13:05] asking Council to not include
[1:13:07] the outfield fence. Why does it
[1:13:08] not seem to matter? Where is the
[1:13:11] ask from the Northview Park
[1:13:13] users for the outfield fence?
[1:13:15] Development of parks and
[1:13:17] community green spaces should
[1:13:18] have positive impact on the
[1:13:19] users, not a negative one. And I
[1:13:21] just cannot figure out why it
[1:13:23] feels like the Council is so
[1:13:24] determined to push the decision
[1:13:25] through, despite the opposition,
[1:13:28] despite the existence of
[1:13:29] alternatives. In the case of a
[1:13:31] community park, the user
[1:13:32] perspective should matter. So,
[1:13:34] my question is, how is it
[1:13:36] determined that putting this
[1:13:37] outfield fence in Northview Park
[1:13:38] is the best decision for
[1:13:40] Pointe-Claire citizens? How many
[1:13:41] users of Northview Park will
[1:13:43] benefit from the fence. We are
[1:13:45] here tonight because we want our
[1:13:46] voice to matter. It should
[1:13:48] matter. How many of us here are
[1:13:49] here to ask to remove the
[1:13:51] outfield fence from the project?
[1:13:54] How many of us are here to ask
[1:13:55] to put in and out field fence?
[1:13:59] It's not too late to incorporate
[1:14:01] our opinion, Mister Mayor. To
[1:14:03] yourself, you sit in the C.J. 80
[1:14:05] interview that if citizens do
[1:14:06] not want the fence, this should
[1:14:07] be considered. To your point, I
[1:14:10] don't see a petition asking for
[1:14:11] the fence. I don't see the park
[1:14:16] being used all year round for
[1:14:17] baseball and we've determined
[1:14:18] that baseball can happily
[1:14:19] continue to be offered at the
[1:14:20] park without the fence. It is a
[1:14:22] recommendation, not a
[1:14:24] requirement. And you also said
[1:14:25] in your official response that
[1:14:27] in a year, the fence could be
[1:14:28] removed. So far, an opinion can
[1:14:30] matter in a year, why can't our
[1:14:32] opinion just mattered right now?
[1:14:35] >> They do.
[1:14:36] >> That's my question.
[1:14:37] >> They do. Your opinions do
[1:14:39] matter right now, and they have
[1:14:40] had an impact. So, they are
[1:14:44] never wasted. Your councillor
[1:14:48] has changed his mind as a result
[1:14:50] of your opinion. You've
[1:14:53] influenced others. You've had
[1:14:55] media coverage and you've done
[1:14:56] very well, and you have done it
[1:14:57] with the quorum and properly, I
[1:14:59] agree with you on all of the
[1:15:00] above. I think that one of my
[1:15:05] mentors wrote that, had the
[1:15:07] greatest things in life happen
[1:15:08] not because of the nation state,
[1:15:09] but in spite of it. And what he
[1:15:12] was talking about was politics
[1:15:14] in general. At the
[1:15:16] decision-making level, the
[1:15:20] decision-making level is never
[1:15:21] the level that really matters.
[1:15:22] The level that really matters is
[1:15:24] public opinion. The way people
[1:15:26] think. He was referring to
[1:15:27] feminism or environmentalism,
[1:15:29] which happened in spite of
[1:15:31] governments. In other words,
[1:15:32] enough of the world thought a
[1:15:33] certain way and eventually
[1:15:35] governments come around. So,
[1:15:38] that's politics and you've
[1:15:40] exercised, on a smaller level,
[1:15:42] that process, and you've done it
[1:15:43] well. Who knows? I mean, I never
[1:15:46] give up on things.
[1:15:49] >> As do we not. It
[1:15:51] >> In closing, I respectively
[1:15:53] ask Council to remove the
[1:15:54] outfield fence from the project
[1:15:56] and listen to your citizens and
[1:15:57] your users of the park. And
[1:15:59] thank you for letting --
[1:16:00] >> You've done that really well.
[1:16:01] Thank you.
[1:16:02] >> Thank you.
[1:16:03] [Applause]
[1:16:05] >> Janet Han?
[1:16:15] >> Good evening. My name is
[1:16:18] Janet Hunt, district three. I
[1:16:19] have a few questions, a bit
[1:16:21] different from, sorry, you hear
[1:16:23] me now?
[1:16:24] >> Yeah, that's better.
[1:16:26] >> That's true. That's good,
[1:16:27] thanks. So, my name is Janet
[1:16:30] Hunt, district three. I've got a
[1:16:32] few questions, that are a little
[1:16:34] bit different from what was
[1:16:35] brought up this evening. I'm
[1:16:39] just curious as to how the City
[1:16:41] arrived at the valuation of
[1:16:44] homes this year. Homes, the
[1:16:47] valuation has gone up by very
[1:16:51] aggressively, approximately
[1:16:52] close to 50% from last year. So,
[1:16:56] that is a huge jump. Our incomes
[1:16:59] have not gone up that high.
[1:17:01] Living expenses have also gone
[1:17:04] up quite high. And why is there
[1:17:06] a fee for residents who want to
[1:17:09] contest this valuation? Whether
[1:17:11] it is accepted in the end or
[1:17:14] rejected. It doesn't really make
[1:17:15] much sense to have. It's like
[1:17:17] penalizing us and not
[1:17:19] encouraging us to contest it. We
[1:17:23] don't agree with it. So, can you
[1:17:25] speak to that?
[1:17:26] >> Yeah, I mean, -- do you want
[1:17:28] to speak to that? Sure, go
[1:17:29] ahead.
[1:17:30] >> High, the reason why I'm
[1:17:32] offering to speak to it is
[1:17:33] because I had this exact
[1:17:34] conversation the last time we
[1:17:35] had the evaluation of role
[1:17:37] increase. It's actually guided
[1:17:38] by the City of Montréal and the
[1:17:40] fees are mandatory by them. And
[1:17:42] I had a good discussion with the
[1:17:46] senior -- was in Valois about
[1:17:49] this discussion because, yes,
[1:17:50] while we fully recognize it is
[1:17:52] painful if you're on a fixed
[1:17:55] income to have this increase in
[1:17:56] taxes, due to the evaluation of
[1:17:57] the role, your long term gain is
[1:17:59] what is there. So, contesting
[1:18:02] the value of your home could put
[1:18:03] you at a disadvantage if you go
[1:18:04] to sell your home, if that's
[1:18:06] what you are relying on for your
[1:18:08] retirement or your future home.
[1:18:10] And I believe that most of the
[1:18:12] cases, unfortunately, do not go
[1:18:14] in favour of the contestation.
[1:18:15] So, you are paying the fee, you
[1:18:18] may get a reduction of maybe
[1:18:21] $100 and so, it has to go up to
[1:18:23] three years, maybe, to make that
[1:18:25] back. And then there's a new
[1:18:26] reevaluation that's coming up
[1:18:28] for Montréal. So, it's designed
[1:18:30] process that's really not in the
[1:18:32] favour of a resident. I believe
[1:18:33] some businesses have had some
[1:18:35] success with it. But it is, yes,
[1:18:38] 100 percent difficult, but the
[1:18:39] overall again is for you, in the
[1:18:41] end, with their higher valuation
[1:18:42] of your home.
[1:18:45] >> However, if we are not
[1:18:46] selling the home and we want to
[1:18:47] live there, the taxes,
[1:18:48] obviously, are going to go up on
[1:18:51] the evaluation is higher. And
[1:18:52] this is going to force a lot of
[1:18:54] people to sell their homes, but
[1:18:56] they are not necessarily going
[1:18:57] to successfully sell it at the
[1:18:59] price that you have evaluated it
[1:19:01] at. Because prices are not --
[1:19:03] >> Based on the homes sold in
[1:19:05] the area. So, all the
[1:19:06] evaluations are based on all the
[1:19:07] homes within a quadrant that are
[1:19:10] compared of what has been
[1:19:11] selling. So, they're taking it
[1:19:13] based on the market, what's
[1:19:15] going on. There could be changes
[1:19:17] or it might not, it may stay
[1:19:18] stable if the market becomes
[1:19:20] more stable and does not
[1:19:21] increase. But then if the market
[1:19:24] doesn't increase, that would
[1:19:25] give you the stability. But the
[1:19:27] whole evaluation goes up because
[1:19:28] people are able to sell for
[1:19:30] those higher prices. It's a
[1:19:33] difficult situation when you
[1:19:34] need to stay in your home and
[1:19:35] you don't have the equities in
[1:19:36] your home, 100%. The whole
[1:19:38] process is just not very
[1:19:40] favourable to support you
[1:19:41] contesting it.
[1:19:42] >> Exactly and that's the whole
[1:19:43] point. It should be favourable
[1:19:45] to people who want to contest
[1:19:46] it. And as well, it should not
[1:19:52] be done in such a way that it's
[1:19:54] for the long term, because we
[1:19:55] want to be able to exist in our
[1:19:57] homes, live in our homes without
[1:20:01] needing to sell it, in order to
[1:20:02] go through a smaller profiting
[1:20:04] or a smaller place, if we are
[1:20:05] happy with where we live. That's
[1:20:07] where we want to stay. We don't
[1:20:08] necessarily want to move.
[1:20:10] However, it's going to force a
[1:20:11] lot of people to end up selling
[1:20:14] and go into farther places,
[1:20:15] because it's going to become
[1:20:17] very expensive to pay the
[1:20:19] property taxes on a much higher
[1:20:23] valuation.
[1:20:24] >> Councillor Stork, you wanted
[1:20:25] to say something?
[1:20:26] >> Thank you, Mayor, Mayor
[1:20:28] Thomas. This is probably not the
[1:20:31] right forum for this, but I can
[1:20:32] tell you right now, it's a very
[1:20:34] common misnomer that our taxes
[1:20:36] went up because our evaluations
[1:20:38] went up. They are not even
[1:20:40] fundamentally not linked
[1:20:41] together. Your evaluations go
[1:20:42] up, your home goes up, but your
[1:20:44] milk rate goes down. So, it's
[1:20:45] all a question of the city's
[1:20:46] finances. We have to find 13
[1:20:49] point $7 million as our overall
[1:20:51] operating budget between
[1:20:52] operating budget and long term
[1:20:53] debt. That's what increased your
[1:20:55] taxes. So, I would be more than
[1:20:58] happy for myself or anybody
[1:20:59] else, or Kelly, to explain to
[1:21:00] you. But that would be a long
[1:21:02] discussion. It's important to
[1:21:03] realize that your house increase
[1:21:05] and valuations do not really,
[1:21:07] they were not the reason why
[1:21:08] your taxes went up.
[1:21:09] >> So, the percentage of our tax
[1:21:13] and the value of the homes, so
[1:21:15] that if the value of the home
[1:21:18] where 350, now it's 700, if we
[1:21:20] paid 10%, let's say.
[1:21:22] >> We reduce the milk rate to
[1:21:24] 5%, so it would come out to the
[1:21:25] same thing.
[1:21:26] >> Okay, so this is the plan?
[1:21:28] >> That is how we operate our
[1:21:31] tax. That's true --
[1:21:33] >> Sorry, Eric, go ahead.
[1:21:34] >> That's true for the
[1:21:35] Pointe-Claire and of the
[1:21:36] taxation, but the Agglo is a
[1:21:38] whole other world and that's
[1:21:39] where the bulk of the tax comes
[1:21:40] from. It's the agglomeration,
[1:21:42] the City of Montréal. So, we
[1:21:45] have control over our part, our
[1:21:47] end of it, but the bulk of it is
[1:21:50] the City of Montréal.
[1:21:51] >> Yeah and are there any plans
[1:21:53] maybe of a separating from the
[1:21:54] City of Montréal?
[1:21:55] [Laughter]
[1:21:59] >> -- they're all the time!
[1:22:02] >> We are donating our money to
[1:22:03] them. They are fumbling it left,
[1:22:05] right, and centre.
[1:22:06] >> That subject is kicked around
[1:22:07] in the association of suburban
[1:22:09] mayors every month, trust me.
[1:22:11] And it's a distinct possibility
[1:22:12] always. I hear you.
[1:22:15] Unfortunately, legally, we
[1:22:16] cannot.
[1:22:18] >> I've got a few more
[1:22:19] questions.
[1:22:20] >> A few more? One more.
[1:22:21] >> So, there was a surplus of 25
[1:22:24] million in the budget for the
[1:22:26] discussion from last month. And
[1:22:30] also, there were some agenda
[1:22:34] items whereby there were
[1:22:36] donations to nonprofit
[1:22:38] organizations and money that's
[1:22:41] put for parks, swimming pools,
[1:22:44] and maintenance. But at the same
[1:22:45] time, there was eight point on
[1:22:48] auctioning off homes for people
[1:22:49] who are not able to pay their
[1:22:51] taxes. So, I found it a little
[1:22:54] bit disheartening that we are
[1:22:55] donating money to nonprofit
[1:22:58] organizations whose lists are
[1:22:59] not on the website, when we
[1:23:01] could be donating to our own
[1:23:03] residents and helping them to
[1:23:05] stay in their home, rather than,
[1:23:08] you know, a child who has a park
[1:23:11] to go to and has a swimming pool
[1:23:12] to go to, doesn't have a home to
[1:23:14] go to, is not a very happy
[1:23:15] child. So, would you consider
[1:23:21] not donating to nonprofit
[1:23:22] organizations and maybe looking
[1:23:24] at, looking at forgiving taxes
[1:23:26] for those who are not able to
[1:23:28] pay their taxes and donating the
[1:23:31] money in this manner instead of
[1:23:35] it going?
[1:23:36] >> That would be a somewhat
[1:23:37] dangerous precedent, don't you
[1:23:38] think?
[1:23:39] >> I don't think so.
[1:23:40] >> Were we to do that?
[1:23:41] >> I don't think so, I think
[1:23:43] it's humane. It's kindness, and
[1:23:48] it's a community feeling,
[1:23:50] supporting our own residence.
[1:23:52] After all, we've had, you know,
[1:23:54] a surplus of 25 million and
[1:23:56] there was a point in doing
[1:23:58] renovations, which I think was
[1:23:59] not voted on 25 million of
[1:24:02] public work renovations. Which I
[1:24:05] found was strange, but I don't
[1:24:06] think it was discussed, so I
[1:24:07] think that's probably moved from
[1:24:09] the agenda. I don't know what
[1:24:11] happened to that point. I don't
[1:24:13] know how it made it their.
[1:24:14] >> Which one was that?
[1:24:17] >> The renovation of public
[1:24:19] works of Pointe-Claire Public
[1:24:20] Works.
[1:24:21] >> Yes, we had a special general
[1:24:22] meeting. On exactly that
[1:24:25] purpose, where all the citizens
[1:24:27] were invited. And we were quite
[1:24:29] disappointed with the turnout.
[1:24:30] We actually called the meeting
[1:24:31] on that.
[1:24:32] >> When was the meeting?
[1:24:33] >> What was the date, Madam
[1:24:34] Bertrand? Not long ago.
[1:24:38] >> May 9th.
[1:24:40] >> Pardon me?
[1:24:41] >> May 9th.
[1:24:42] >> May 9th we had a special
[1:24:43] general meeting here. Didn't we
[1:24:44] invite all the citizens of
[1:24:45] Pointe-Claire, we announced it,
[1:24:47] did anybody show?
[1:24:51] [Inaudible]
[1:24:52] >> It was announced.
[1:24:53] >> I didn't know about it
[1:24:54] either, actually. Was it on the
[1:24:56] website?
[1:24:57] >> Yes.
[1:24:58] >> It was also on the website?
[1:24:59] >> Yes.
[1:25:00] >> Okay, I didn't know about it.
[1:25:03] And so --
[1:25:04] >> I just want to respond to
[1:25:05] something that's very important.
[1:25:07] Our support of the community
[1:25:10] organizations and the nonprofit
[1:25:11] is essential for our community.
[1:25:13] They rely on cities specifically
[1:25:15] to help the support, we support
[1:25:17] lakeshore General Hospital
[1:25:18] Foundation, various West Island
[1:25:22] community shares. This is really
[1:25:24] where they need help to help
[1:25:26] those most in need and it would
[1:25:27] be highly difficult to assess
[1:25:28] the true need of anybody not
[1:25:30] paying their taxes. And I do not
[1:25:31] believe we ever end up selling
[1:25:33] anyone's home by the time it
[1:25:34] comes to it. Usually, they come
[1:25:36] to it and pay their dues. I do
[1:25:37] not remember the last time we
[1:25:38] actually had an auction. So, it
[1:25:39] has to be put on formal legal
[1:25:41] process that we are going to
[1:25:42] sell the home, but it never gets
[1:25:43] to that point. But I really
[1:25:45] wanted to highlight how much
[1:25:47] Pointe-Claire is part of the
[1:25:48] fabric of the nonprofit
[1:25:50] organizations in that really,
[1:25:51] really is how we support the
[1:25:52] community, and there are so many
[1:25:54] of them, and they really rely on
[1:25:58] Pointe-Claire. I would hate to
[1:25:59] ever have that notion out there
[1:26:00] that it's not needed, because it
[1:26:02] is essential. We are not really
[1:26:04] selling peoples homes in the
[1:26:05] end. But we have to go through
[1:26:07] the process to force people to
[1:26:08] pay their taxes.
[1:26:10] >> So, even if they're forced
[1:26:11] and we have a 25 million dollar
[1:26:14] surplus, and you don't end up
[1:26:15] selling their homes, which is
[1:26:16] really great, that's wonderful,
[1:26:17] but you end up giving to these
[1:26:20] organizations and it would be
[1:26:21] much better to give it to the
[1:26:22] people, so that they can stay in
[1:26:25] their homes, if ever it gets to
[1:26:26] that degree.
[1:26:27] >> We have other supports to
[1:26:28] have people stay in their home,
[1:26:29] like the aid for senior
[1:26:30] programs, and things like that.
[1:26:32] But I would highly doubt that
[1:26:33] the majority of Pointe-Claire
[1:26:34] would agree with the statement
[1:26:35] to not force people to pay their
[1:26:36] taxes. It's just setting a
[1:26:38] precedent, it's opening a whole
[1:26:40] different discussion, and so, we
[1:26:41] look for the proper ways to
[1:26:42] support the community that does
[1:26:46] establish the nonprofits. They
[1:26:47] show us their bank accounts,
[1:26:48] they show us where they receive
[1:26:49] money, they say they would what
[1:26:50] they did with their money. There
[1:26:51] are checks and balances in that
[1:26:53] process and so, I just want to
[1:26:54] uphold that there are so many
[1:26:55] people that are part of that,
[1:26:57] and it's important for us to
[1:26:59] continue our support in that
[1:27:00] way.
[1:27:01] >> Thank you, Miss Hannah in the
[1:27:03] interest of the rest of the
[1:27:04] questions.
[1:27:05] >> You're welcome, thank you.
[1:27:07] >> Glenn Holland?
[1:27:17] >> Hi, good evening. Northview
[1:27:20] Park, one more time. Just to
[1:27:23] augment it a bit, what Sarah and
[1:27:25] Heidi have so well eloquently
[1:27:28] expressed, just a few technical
[1:27:31] details. We were given the same
[1:27:33] presentation that I believe from
[1:27:35] Jill Gerard, director of sports
[1:27:37] and leisure, that was presented
[1:27:38] to the Council sometime in
[1:27:39] December, January. We got that
[1:27:42] presentation on the 10th of May.
[1:27:44] In that presentation, he cited
[1:27:48] the technical qualifications
[1:27:50] coming from dictated for the
[1:27:52] building of offence and parks in
[1:27:54] general from M E as, Minister of
[1:27:57] Education support and law here,
[1:27:58] as well as baseball Québec. He
[1:28:02] cited those as the reason, the
[1:28:03] technical reasons, why the park
[1:28:04] is going to be the way it is.
[1:28:08] Further public research, though,
[1:28:09] when you compare what's actually
[1:28:10] in the plan, which is versus the
[1:28:14] technical aspects coming from
[1:28:16] those two cited organizations,
[1:28:17] one, in the presentation, it was
[1:28:19] not mentioned that this is an
[1:28:21] optional fence, okay? This is
[1:28:23] not mandated. There is no reason
[1:28:25] to have it. It's up to the
[1:28:28] individual location. Two, if
[1:28:31] we've been told this has been
[1:28:33] designated by the park, if you
[1:28:34] look at the regulations cited by
[1:28:36] the Pointe-Claire presentation
[1:28:37] itself, when you look at the
[1:28:40] public regulations, it's
[1:28:41] supposed to be a 300 feet, or
[1:28:44] 305 feet. There's a discrepancy
[1:28:45] between the two organizations.
[1:28:47] But 300 feet is the number we've
[1:28:48] been using. The plan for
[1:28:51] Northview Park is 280 feet. It
[1:28:53] does not even meet the technical
[1:28:55] speck from these two
[1:28:57] organizations after being cited
[1:28:59] by Pointe-Claire. So, I'm just
[1:29:00] going to keep this short. I'm
[1:29:01] going to leave it at that. I
[1:29:03] don't know who designates
[1:29:05] Northview Park as a bantam park.
[1:29:08] I don't know what the criteria
[1:29:09] is used by whom, is it the city
[1:29:12] that sells this is a Bantam
[1:29:13] park? And then if you ask,
[1:29:15] what's the criteria? To define
[1:29:17] it as abandoned Park. You've
[1:29:19] mentioned 31 out of 34, Jada,
[1:29:20] Jada, Jada. It's always in
[1:29:22] regard to the Benton Parks. Who
[1:29:25] decided Northview is going to be
[1:29:26] a bantam park?
[1:29:27] >> That's a good question. Madam
[1:29:29] Verdun? Do we know historically
[1:29:31] who decided?
[1:29:32] >> No, I don't know
[1:29:33] historically, but it's always
[1:29:36] been a bantam park.
[1:29:37] >> I mean, if it's size, just be
[1:29:39] aware, we've done the measuring.
[1:29:41] Cedars is bigger than Northview
[1:29:42] Park, okay? And from what I can
[1:29:45] tell on baseball West Island
[1:29:46] website, there is no baseball
[1:29:49] schedule there at cedars park.
[1:29:51] It seems to be softball from my,
[1:29:53] again, rudimentary
[1:29:54] investigation. Emails to the
[1:29:58] sports and Department of
[1:29:59] Pointe-Claire, through the
[1:30:01] communications department, have
[1:30:02] gone unanswered.
[1:30:03] >> I'm going to let Kelly speak
[1:30:04] to the history of white
[1:30:05] Northview is, but I will point
[1:30:07] out what I pointed out to you
[1:30:08] during the meeting. I give you
[1:30:10] Fenway park as the counter
[1:30:13] argument to your previous
[1:30:14] example, where it's a wonderful
[1:30:17] professional baseball field with
[1:30:19] the green monster to mitigate
[1:30:23] against shortened distance in an
[1:30:24] outfield. Anything is possible
[1:30:26] with the ambiance, the right
[1:30:28] demographics, or whatever
[1:30:29] working, you can make a baseball
[1:30:31] park for other reasons. But
[1:30:32] Kelly, do you want to speak to
[1:30:35] why Northview, how it --
[1:30:39] >> Not 100 percent correct, but
[1:30:40] basically, as a city, our
[1:30:44] recreation departments, with the
[1:30:46] collaboration of engineering, go
[1:30:48] through and look at what fields
[1:30:50] that we have, what sports
[1:30:51] facilities we have, and they
[1:30:52] designate different things. If
[1:30:54] you probably recall many years
[1:30:55] ago, there were many more parks
[1:30:56] that you should be baseball
[1:30:57] fields that got converted into
[1:30:58] soccer fields, because at the
[1:30:59] time, soccer became more
[1:31:00] popular. And so, they take into
[1:31:02] consideration all the locations
[1:31:03] of everything for sport and
[1:31:05] leisure within our community,
[1:31:06] globally, and then they
[1:31:08] attribute what we can attribute
[1:31:10] where, that will meet the
[1:31:11] greatest needs, based on the
[1:31:12] resources we have. Which is also
[1:31:14] why we have changes at
[1:31:17] terracotta, tried to increase
[1:31:18] the different users, which just
[1:31:21] promotes how we do our sports
[1:31:22] facilities, what we consider,
[1:31:24] where we consider putting splash
[1:31:25] pads, where we consider adding
[1:31:28] adapted equipment that does all
[1:31:29] change the landscape of green
[1:31:31] space. I think the issue that's
[1:31:33] a bit of a concern is that
[1:31:35] Northview, as a general park, is
[1:31:38] a general part, but it has a
[1:31:39] pool, a tennis court, open green
[1:31:41] space, but it also has the
[1:31:43] baseball field. And that is the
[1:31:45] issue, that that specific part
[1:31:46] is a sports field. And so, 100%,
[1:31:49] like, you are a wonderful
[1:31:52] committee, you're well spoken,
[1:31:53] we hear your arguments, but it
[1:31:54] was not an, oh, we were deciding
[1:31:56] to change Northview Park, or
[1:31:58] change the location. It's an
[1:32:00] upgrade that was recommended to
[1:32:03] council from our departments
[1:32:04] that look at the different
[1:32:05] upgrades that we put into our P
[1:32:07] E every year. It's the same when
[1:32:08] we redid our arena and I think
[1:32:10] the challenge is that
[1:32:12] Pointe-Claire has never re-a
[1:32:15] sports field or a complex, or a
[1:32:16] building, not according to
[1:32:18] recommendations. It's not what
[1:32:19] we do as a city. Because maybe
[1:32:21] there has not been five injuries
[1:32:23] or ten injuries, whatever, but
[1:32:24] at the moment that it happens,
[1:32:25] and when it happened at the
[1:32:26] arena, they came in and hockey
[1:32:29] Québec measured the boards,
[1:32:31] measured the line, measured
[1:32:32] this, measured that, when there
[1:32:33] was an injury. That, we need to
[1:32:36] consider because that's the
[1:32:37] global consideration that we
[1:32:38] have to take on, as councillors.
[1:32:39] And I understand, I agree that
[1:32:43] there is a perceived change to
[1:32:45] the vocation at the park. But
[1:32:46] from the sports field, none of
[1:32:48] the activities that have been
[1:32:50] stated will change, and there is
[1:32:52] an option of, have you seen
[1:32:54] Greer Park with the beautiful
[1:32:55] vegetation that went all along
[1:32:56] the fence? It's equally as
[1:32:58] gorgeous. There are ways to do
[1:32:59] it that you maintain the
[1:33:01] regulations and the guidelines,
[1:33:03] and you also maintain what we
[1:33:05] need to provide as services to
[1:33:07] the community for the different
[1:33:08] choices of sports field. The
[1:33:10] issue is, there are 31 to 34
[1:33:12] Bantam fields on the fence.
[1:33:13] Lachine is about to change and
[1:33:14] we would be the other one to
[1:33:16] change. So, that's the
[1:33:18] difficult, it's difficult for us
[1:33:19] to say. We are not going to go
[1:33:20] in that direction, we are not
[1:33:21] going to support it. Because I
[1:33:25] agree, it looks like it's
[1:33:26] changing your space, but it was
[1:33:28] not the space. This was a Bantam
[1:33:30] field that needs upgrades and
[1:33:32] the field is the recommendation
[1:33:35] of our D G of engineering and of
[1:33:37] recreation. So, we have to go
[1:33:38] against the recommendations of
[1:33:40] our paid professionals to
[1:33:44] actually uphold that there's
[1:33:46] discomfort with it. And I think
[1:33:47] we could come together with the
[1:33:48] fence, build it like Greer Park,
[1:33:50] it will be beautiful, and it
[1:33:51] would be pleasing, and you still
[1:33:52] have your space.
[1:33:54] >> Thank you.
[1:33:55] >> But it has to be said because
[1:33:56] I think there's a lot of
[1:33:58] misinformation that's being
[1:34:00] shared and there is another
[1:34:01] perspective.
[1:34:02] >> There is no information being
[1:34:03] shared. That's the issue. From
[1:34:06] that May 10th meeting we had
[1:34:07] with Jill, he was supposed to
[1:34:09] give us the documentation to
[1:34:11] support the 280 feet. We have
[1:34:14] public information. Refuting the
[1:34:17] citations by Pointe-Claire, his
[1:34:19] department, that say, no, it has
[1:34:20] to be 300 feet, okay? Not with
[1:34:23] -- Northview people love
[1:34:24] baseball. We are not against
[1:34:26] baseball. My question is, I'm
[1:34:27] just wanting to make you guys
[1:34:29] aware of the technical issues
[1:34:31] cited by Pointe-Claire. The
[1:34:33] organization said 300 and 305
[1:34:35] feet for a bantam size field.
[1:34:38] Who decided this is going to be
[1:34:39] a bantam field, when, example,
[1:34:42] Cedar is --
[1:34:43] >> It's always been a bantam
[1:34:44] field because of how far people
[1:34:46] can hit the ball. So, it cannot
[1:34:48] be, is it midget? We can't be
[1:34:51] the next size up because there
[1:34:52] will be no net, they're -- so,
[1:34:54] they evaluate the fields, then
[1:34:56] they determined that's where
[1:34:57] that field is with the
[1:34:58] recreation teams.
[1:34:59] >> But back to the citation from
[1:35:01] those two organizations, they
[1:35:03] say 300 feet. Cedars has 300
[1:35:05] feet. Valois could be 300 feet.
[1:35:08] Bourgeois is 300, could be 300
[1:35:09] feet.
[1:35:10] >> -- this is the concern. We do
[1:35:12] not just have baseball west
[1:35:14] island to consider, we have
[1:35:15] softball, we have the other
[1:35:17] people who need to use the
[1:35:18] fields, and that's the balance
[1:35:19] with it. So, that's what I'm
[1:35:21] saying is that we hear from the
[1:35:23] associations that work with this
[1:35:24] department of recreation to
[1:35:26] determine what it is.
[1:35:27] >> Respectively, what we've
[1:35:28] heard for three months out, this
[1:35:30] is a bantam park, Bantam Park,
[1:35:32] Bantam Park, okay? Bantam park
[1:35:34] regulations, public knowledge,
[1:35:35] okay? 300 feet. We are building
[1:35:38] fence at the expense of offence,
[1:35:40] 280 feet. Where there is other
[1:35:42] solutions available.
[1:35:43] >> It seems to be acceptable, it
[1:35:44] seems to be acceptable. That's
[1:35:45] why it's being recommended.
[1:35:46] Eric, did you want to speak to?
[1:35:49] >> Yeah, I want to speak to the
[1:35:50] fact that, as Kelly mentioned, I
[1:35:52] think we've given up a lot of
[1:35:54] our baseball fields for soccer
[1:35:55] during that movement, there's no
[1:35:57] question about that. But I must
[1:35:59] disagree with you, Councillor
[1:36:01] Kelly. In reference to the
[1:36:02] administration, the
[1:36:04] administration makes
[1:36:05] administrative decisions. We
[1:36:06] take that information, we
[1:36:07] converted. It wouldn't be the
[1:36:08] first time in history that an
[1:36:10] administrative decision has been
[1:36:11] overruled by Council and in
[1:36:13] reference to many issues,
[1:36:14] starting with one that's on our
[1:36:15] agenda, -- location of the
[1:36:17] washrooms. So, there are
[1:36:19] multiple cases. I understand and
[1:36:21] I have my little say later, but
[1:36:23] this is a very subjective issue
[1:36:26] and I will leave it at that for
[1:36:27] now.
[1:36:30] >> May I suggest maybe delaying
[1:36:31] the fence moratorium the fence?
[1:36:33] Do a better analysis, find out
[1:36:34] all the safety cases, look at
[1:36:36] the other parks, maybe re-check
[1:36:38] the schedule, just as FYI.
[1:36:40] Baseball West Island, itself,
[1:36:42] right now, Miss bourgeois as
[1:36:44] abandoned field. It has a fence.
[1:36:47] It's not 300 feet either, by the
[1:36:48] way. But it's on the schedule.
[1:36:52] It's listed as a band field. Why
[1:36:55] do we need a fence in Northview
[1:36:58] before another Bantam field?
[1:36:59] What is point clear all of a
[1:37:01] sudden need to bantam fields?
[1:37:02] >> Because the bulk of Council
[1:37:04] has decided it does. I think
[1:37:05] that's the answer to your
[1:37:06] question. And we will be voting
[1:37:08] on it shortly. My only concern
[1:37:10] here is, are there any other
[1:37:12] questions other than Northview
[1:37:13] that need to be asked? Because I
[1:37:15] have a list. Thank you, I have a
[1:37:16] list. It's just, I don't mean to
[1:37:18] be harsh, how much time do we
[1:37:20] have left?
[1:37:21] >> Six minutes.
[1:37:22] >> Six minutes, okay. Joseph
[1:37:27] emit?
[1:37:36] >> Good evening. Thank you for
[1:37:40] the opportunity to speak with
[1:37:41] you. I was wondering, if you are
[1:37:45] aware of the terrible condition
[1:37:46] of the road between the village,
[1:37:50] Pointe-Claire Village, and
[1:37:52] boulevard de source. You know,
[1:37:54] that road is used by, some
[1:37:57] weekends, especially by bikers,
[1:38:00] more than cars. And it's
[1:38:03] downright dangerous. There is
[1:38:05] huge, big cracks, there are
[1:38:07] manhole covers that are several
[1:38:09] inches below the surface, so,
[1:38:12] you're going, trying to avoid a
[1:38:14] manhole cover, and you tried
[1:38:15] then, you come to a crack, try
[1:38:17] to avoid that, and the buses are
[1:38:19] coming at you, and I was
[1:38:23] wondering if this is your
[1:38:27] responsibility to build that
[1:38:29] road again? But the worst part
[1:38:31] of the road, you know, Lachine
[1:38:34] is okay, LaSalle, Baie-D'Urfé,
[1:38:36] St. and, you know? That road is
[1:38:38] the most wonderful biking trail
[1:38:40] in the world. It goes all the
[1:38:42] way to old Montréal and that
[1:38:46] spot between the village and the
[1:38:48] sources road is an absolute
[1:38:50] disaster. I was hoping that you
[1:38:55] would take that and look at the
[1:38:57] situation, and see if there's
[1:38:58] anything that can be done.
[1:39:02] >> As a cyclist, I have to tell
[1:39:04] you, it's pretty bad in
[1:39:05] Baie-D'Urfé to, I feel. I've
[1:39:06] gone to Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue,
[1:39:08] I mean, it's hard. This is
[1:39:10] Québec, these are Québec roads.
[1:39:13] Is Pointe-Claire worse than
[1:39:14] anywhere else? I'm not sure. As
[1:39:16] a cyclist, I find you've got to
[1:39:18] keep your wits about you on
[1:39:20] almost all of it. You are
[1:39:22] talking lakeshore, are you
[1:39:24] specifically?
[1:39:25] >> Yeah, lakeshore boulevard.
[1:39:27] >> Sources, from the village?
[1:39:29] >> Particularly -- okay, go
[1:39:31] ahead, Kelly. There's a section.
[1:39:33] >> It's acknowledged and it's on
[1:39:35] our plan of action. There's a
[1:39:37] section being done this summer,
[1:39:38] but we are coordinating, okay,
[1:39:40] don't quote me on this summer, I
[1:39:41] thought it was this summer. But
[1:39:43] we are coordinating with, there
[1:39:45] needs to be some major piping
[1:39:46] work done by the City of
[1:39:47] Montréal. So, as that goes
[1:39:49] through, that work along
[1:39:51] lakeshore, boulevard board the
[1:39:53] Lac will occur. 100%, everyone
[1:39:55] agrees with you, it's a main
[1:39:56] thoroughfare and it's one of the
[1:39:57] criteria that we use when we
[1:39:59] prioritize which he gets done.
[1:40:00] There are various criteria under
[1:40:02] how many water main breaks,
[1:40:03] what's on above, how frequently
[1:40:05] it's used, the amount of
[1:40:06] traffic. But it is already
[1:40:09] acknowledged. It's on the
[1:40:10] engineering list.
[1:40:12] >> Well, you know, like, in
[1:40:15] Dorval, all of a sudden, it's
[1:40:18] silky, you just keep going. But
[1:40:20] that park, you know, between the
[1:40:21] village and the sources is
[1:40:24] really, it has been done over
[1:40:26] and over again, repair, upon
[1:40:28] repair, upon repair.
[1:40:29] >> It is slated to be entirely,
[1:40:30] a lot of it is slated to be
[1:40:32] entirely repaved. Councillor
[1:40:35] towards that Cohen is correct.
[1:40:36] But could I encourage you to try
[1:40:37] a bike path? We have a good one
[1:40:42] along Hymus. We have another
[1:40:43] good one along Donegani as well.
[1:40:49] >> Donegani is beautiful.
[1:40:50] >> -- a lot of bike paths. --
[1:40:54] >> What makes that road, of
[1:40:55] course, very special is the
[1:40:56] board you lack, going by the
[1:40:58] lake. If Lachine can do it, if
[1:41:03] Baie-D'Urfé can do it, I'm sure
[1:41:06] Pointe-Claire can.
[1:41:07] >> Baie-D'Urfé doesn't have a
[1:41:09] bike path along the.
[1:41:10] Baie-D'Urfé, there is no bike
[1:41:11] path. Lachine, in fact, does and
[1:41:12] part of Dorval. There is not a
[1:41:14] bike path, it's not a bike path.
[1:41:16] Baie-D'Urfé, not at all.
[1:41:17] Baie-D'Urfé, you've got the
[1:41:18] little cement trial that pushes
[1:41:19] you right out. I find it even
[1:41:21] more dangerous, but bottom line,
[1:41:24] you are right. Better asphalt is
[1:41:27] better for biking, that's for
[1:41:28] sure. Part of Lake Falls Blake
[1:41:30] shore is getting done, but in
[1:41:31] the meantime, try a bike path.
[1:41:34] They are nice as well.
[1:41:35] >> Well, I personally like that
[1:41:37] because of -- thank you. Thanks
[1:41:39] for listening to me and I hope
[1:41:41] something can be done.
[1:41:42] >> Thank you, sir, I appreciate
[1:41:43] that. Wendy Crowley?
[1:41:52] >> Good evening, thank you. In
[1:41:54] the last council meeting, when
[1:41:56] the discussion was about
[1:41:58] densification and green space,
[1:42:00] Councillor Stork, you said, we
[1:42:02] are looking at punter woods,
[1:42:04] what can be done when something
[1:42:05] goes there? I'm glad you've said
[1:42:07] that because I had not been
[1:42:09] thinking about Ponner Woods or
[1:42:11] paying attention. Since then,
[1:42:13] there's been the beginning of a
[1:42:14] gravel road put in from sources
[1:42:18] into Ponner Woods, so I was
[1:42:19] curious to know what that was
[1:42:20] about. And my question is just,
[1:42:23] who owns the land at Ponner
[1:42:25] Woods and to what extent is this
[1:42:27] a protected reading space?
[1:42:31] >> Airport of Montréal.
[1:42:32] >> It's the airport of Montréal
[1:42:33] land and it was already rezoned
[1:42:36] green space, natural, it is
[1:42:38] green. It is not zoned for
[1:42:39] anything to go in there. And if
[1:42:42] that were to happen, it would
[1:42:43] have to come to Council as an
[1:42:46] amendment to the zoning, which
[1:42:48] is not at all being discussed.
[1:42:50] There could be the gravel road
[1:42:52] going in, only because they have
[1:42:53] to do maintenance about the ash
[1:42:54] trees. It's their responsibility
[1:42:55] to take that out. That would be
[1:42:57] my hypothesis, I don't know if
[1:42:58] we've received information for
[1:42:59] the airport of Montréal.
[1:43:00] Usually, the fire, the people
[1:43:02] have directly along Ponner
[1:43:03] Woods, when work is being done,
[1:43:05] so perhaps they know. But there
[1:43:07] are no plans to develop Ponner
[1:43:09] Woods that haven't all been
[1:43:10] discussed at Council.
[1:43:12] >> It has seemed to come up in
[1:43:13] the last council meeting.
[1:43:15] >> I think, honestly, I think it
[1:43:16] was an error. Unless Councillor
[1:43:18] Stork, you might, that I don't
[1:43:19] think he meant. That really, it
[1:43:20] would be very much a surprise.
[1:43:22] >> I think my reference was
[1:43:24] probably to green space is being
[1:43:25] protected or green spaces that
[1:43:27] are available. At no point I
[1:43:30] 100% -- Thorstad-Cullen that
[1:43:33] there's nothing in the wood
[1:43:34] works there that is --
[1:43:35] >> Okay, it just hit me when I
[1:43:37] heard it and then I started to
[1:43:38] go, then I saw the road coming
[1:43:39] in, so, I was concerned. Thank
[1:43:42] you.
[1:43:43] >> Okay, do we have time for one
[1:43:45] more?
[1:43:46] >> Time is up.
[1:43:47] >> Time is up? Okay. Okay, yeah,
[1:43:53] but there is a couple others.
[1:43:54] >> With all due respect, an
[1:43:55] awful lot of talk was
[1:43:56] [Inaudible]
[1:43:58] Number of us are here, other
[1:44:00] topics that are important to us.
[1:44:02] I think that time should be
[1:44:04] continued for those
[1:44:05] [Inaudible]
[1:44:09] Talk about their important
[1:44:10] topic, others have important
[1:44:12] topics. I am
[1:44:13] [Inaudible]
[1:44:15] Would very much appreciate
[1:44:16] [Inaudible]
[1:44:18] >> Well, yes, yes. Okay, would
[1:44:24] we everybody who's before this
[1:44:26] gentleman concede to allowing
[1:44:28] one more and allowing this
[1:44:29] gentlemen? No, that's not going
[1:44:31] to happen. We have a 90 minute
[1:44:33] time limit and this has been the
[1:44:35] case from the beginning, and
[1:44:36] those who get here early get on
[1:44:38] the list first. So, --
[1:44:41] >> So I can bring my friends
[1:44:42] next time?
[1:44:43] [Inaudible]
[1:44:44] >> With all due respect, sir,
[1:44:45] they got here first. People got
[1:44:49] on the list and we are going in
[1:44:50] the order of the names on the
[1:44:51] list. I'm asking if the
[1:44:54] concession can be made for one
[1:44:55] more, if you would like to be
[1:44:56] you. But if not, sorry, we are
[1:44:58] not going to do the whole room.
[1:45:00] So, I am trying to give the
[1:45:02] concession of kindness here. I
[1:45:04] don't know, there are other
[1:45:05] people ahead of this gentlemen.
[1:45:07] So, I want to be fair to the
[1:45:09] people who got here before you,
[1:45:11] to ask a question. What is your
[1:45:17] name, sir?
[1:45:18] [Inaudible]
[1:45:19] >> You are the last. There is
[1:45:20] one, two, three, three more
[1:45:21] before, then two more. After
[1:45:23] that. So, there were three
[1:45:24] before you, Mr. Stephens. So,
[1:45:26] I've got to say, if it's okay
[1:45:27] with the rest of the room, well
[1:45:29] I will out Mr. Stephens?
[1:45:31] [Inaudible]
[1:45:46] >> Curt is a double edged sword,
[1:45:48] sir. Curd is a double edged
[1:45:51] sword. I might point out that we
[1:45:53] give a lot longer question
[1:45:54] period than most other
[1:45:55] municipalities. We are extremely
[1:45:57] generous and you guys get more
[1:45:58] than your share. So, I don't
[1:46:00] think, I think you're being a
[1:46:02] little harsh on this one. Would
[1:46:04] people like Mr. Stephens, one
[1:46:07] more? Because Council has agreed
[1:46:09] to one more? But the people,
[1:46:11] will anybody be offended?
[1:46:13] Because there are names before
[1:46:14] him. Okay, go ahead, Mr.
[1:46:16] Stephens. Well, I am.
[1:46:19] [Inaudible]
[1:46:24] >> She's fine. Ma'am, we, this
[1:46:25] is an act of generosity and I
[1:46:27] thank you for your graciousness.
[1:46:29] Mr. Stephens is a little more
[1:46:31] concerned than the rest of you,
[1:46:34] so I thought maybe -- I
[1:46:35] apologize.
[1:46:38] >> I'm just saying
[1:46:39] [Inaudible]
[1:46:43] >> Okay, so we won't do it then.
[1:46:46] [Inaudible]
[1:46:49] >> Look, are we doing it or not?
[1:46:51] It's up to you guys. It's an act
[1:46:52] of generosity. Okay, go ahead,
[1:46:54] sir.
[1:46:55] >> Thank you, thank you very
[1:46:56] much and I express my thanks to
[1:46:58] those who conceded. It's their
[1:47:00] place to let me stand at the
[1:47:01] microphone right now. I will do
[1:47:02] my best to be as concise as
[1:47:04] possible. My name is Noah
[1:47:06] Stevens, I love it 400 13
[1:47:09] Hermitage. I have two concerns
[1:47:10] which I will express with the
[1:47:12] brevity of which I'm capable of.
[1:47:13] For the first concern is garbage
[1:47:15] collection. I would like to ask
[1:47:17] Council if it would consider
[1:47:19] tonight or in the near future
[1:47:21] debating, at some point,
[1:47:25] creating reverting, actually, to
[1:47:27] what was past practice in years
[1:47:29] gone by, which is for
[1:47:30] Pointe-Claire, the city, to have
[1:47:32] its own garbage collection
[1:47:33] service. There are two reasons
[1:47:36] for proposing this. One is the
[1:47:38] current garbage collection
[1:47:39] service, which I've been given
[1:47:40] to understand is the only one
[1:47:42] that has tendered a contract, a,
[1:47:45] does not do its job. I'm not
[1:47:48] saying it's not capable of doing
[1:47:49] its job, I'm saying it does not.
[1:47:51] Of the last three collections,
[1:47:52] it has left garbage at the
[1:47:54] bottom of my garbage can twice.
[1:47:56] I've had to ask Pointe-Claire
[1:47:59] Public Works to have the service
[1:48:00] come back and empty my garbage
[1:48:01] can, so they are ineffective.
[1:48:03] The second is their disregard
[1:48:04] for personal property. I don't
[1:48:06] know how many people here in the
[1:48:07] room have experience it, but I
[1:48:08] know that many Pointe-Claire
[1:48:09] residents have. They are known
[1:48:12] for breaking garbage cans,
[1:48:13] they've broken quite a number of
[1:48:14] mine over the past few years.
[1:48:15] That's my first point. And as I
[1:48:17] promised with brevity, I will
[1:48:18] move on to the second one, which
[1:48:21] is, on a different topic. The
[1:48:23] number of streets in
[1:48:24] Pointe-Claire that are blocked
[1:48:26] by tree services, tradesmen of
[1:48:30] various types, my question to
[1:48:31] Council is, is their
[1:48:33] recommendation limiting to what
[1:48:37] degree a truck in part on
[1:48:39] lakeshore road take up a half or
[1:48:41] more than half of the lane, when
[1:48:43] there's services to countries
[1:48:45] down or to gardening, when there
[1:48:48] is a side street that they could
[1:48:49] park on, there is a parking lot
[1:48:51] nearby they can park on, there
[1:48:52] is the driveway of the customer
[1:48:54] they could park in, which is
[1:48:56] often free. And if there are
[1:48:59] rules regarding this, why are
[1:49:00] they not enforced? And if there
[1:49:02] are not rules regarding this, I
[1:49:03] would ask Council to consider
[1:49:05] the possibility of adopting
[1:49:06] some. So that we do not
[1:49:10] experience situations like the
[1:49:11] ones I experienced often, which
[1:49:12] is on lakeshore road in the
[1:49:13] morning, I have to swerve around
[1:49:15] trucks. My own house, my own
[1:49:17] driveway, was blocked three days
[1:49:19] ago by a tree service, which
[1:49:21] simply block my driveway because
[1:49:22] they wanted to, and I had to ask
[1:49:24] them to move. I can give more
[1:49:25] examples, but I think you get
[1:49:26] the picture. Thank you very much
[1:49:28] for listening and thanks again.
[1:49:29] >> Okay, your points are taken
[1:49:32] on all counts. Garbage, well,
[1:49:36] investing in our own garbage
[1:49:39] service would be, far more
[1:49:41] costly than taxpayer would wish.
[1:49:44] You would have to get the
[1:49:45] vehicles, staff, et cetera. It
[1:49:48] goes to tender and it goes to
[1:49:50] the certain better, and you are
[1:49:51] right, I mean, if the service is
[1:49:53] not delivered adequately
[1:49:54] overtime, you go to tender again
[1:49:56] or you change. So, your point is
[1:49:59] well taken on that one. I think
[1:50:01] it's too costly to do it
[1:50:02] ourselves, to be honest with
[1:50:03] you, but, you know, I have not
[1:50:04] done the math. I'm pretty sure
[1:50:05] that's the answer on that one.
[1:50:07] As for damaging, yes, that
[1:50:09] should be followed up. If it's
[1:50:13] resulting in too much damage, we
[1:50:14] have to keep track of that and
[1:50:15] make sure that it stops
[1:50:16] happening, for sure. As for, I'm
[1:50:20] very intrigued. I often wonder
[1:50:22] about contractors parking on the
[1:50:24] roads. I think for trees, it's
[1:50:26] understandable. I think they may
[1:50:27] need equipment. But if it's
[1:50:29] being abused, absolutely. And it
[1:50:30] is a tough one to catch or
[1:50:33] regulate. All we can do is be
[1:50:37] perseverance and if you see one,
[1:50:40] you can phone it in or complain,
[1:50:42] if you feel someone's abusing.
[1:50:45] >> I have in the past.
[1:50:46] [Inaudible]
[1:50:48] Told that either a police
[1:50:52] officer -- would have to catch
[1:50:53] them in the act.
[1:50:55] [Inaudible]
[1:50:59] By Hermitage Park, there was a
[1:51:01] construction project going
[1:51:02] [Inaudible]
[1:51:04] They routinely park in the
[1:51:05] street.
[1:51:06] [Inaudible]
[1:51:08] Then they drive outside the
[1:51:09] cones, they leave -- in the
[1:51:11] street outside the home, hazard
[1:51:13] for traffic and
[1:51:14] [Inaudible]
[1:51:16] So, if there are rules, they are
[1:51:18] being disrespected.
[1:51:19] >> Well, thanks for pointing
[1:51:20] that out. That is duly noted.
[1:51:22] Thank you very much. Okay,
[1:51:31] peut-on continuer? Madame
[1:51:32] Thibault?
[1:51:36] - 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt
[1:51:37] d'un projet de Règlement
[1:51:38] modifiant le règlement PC-2918
[1:51:39] relatif à la lutte contre la
[1:51:40] propagation de l'agrile du frêne
[1:51:41] sur le territoire de la Ville de
[1:51:42] PointeClaire.
[1:51:46] les modifications visent à
[1:51:48] corriger
[1:51:49] (inaudible)
[1:51:50] , apporter des clarifications
[1:51:51] afin d'éviter toute ambiguïté
[1:51:52] dans l'interprétation du
[1:51:54] règlement, dans les délais
[1:51:55] applicables, par suite de
[1:51:57] l'émission d'un avis par la
[1:51:58] Ville, suite à une autorisation
[1:52:00] d'abattage reçu par les
[1:52:01] citoyens, une amende dans le cas
[1:52:02] de récidive qui a été ajouté.
[1:52:05] >> Do we give this notice a
[1:52:06] motion?
[1:52:08] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:52:12] >> 5.2, notice of motion and
[1:52:13] filing of a draft bylaw amending
[1:52:15] zoning bylaw P C 27.75 of the
[1:52:17] city of Pointe-Claire to ensure
[1:52:19] concordance with the provisions
[1:52:20] of the provincial bylaw on
[1:52:22] residential pool safety. The
[1:52:24] amendment to zoning bylaw is
[1:52:25] required to update certain
[1:52:26] definitions, primarily
[1:52:27] associated with swimming pools
[1:52:29] and definitions concerning water
[1:52:30] gardens and rain gardens, as
[1:52:32] well as to modify and adapt
[1:52:34] section 5.10, in order to
[1:52:35] implement the provisions of the
[1:52:40] provincial bylaw on residential
[1:52:41] swimming pools.
[1:52:42] >> Who gives this notice a
[1:52:43] motion?
[1:52:44] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:52:49] 5.3 Adoption d'un premier projet
[1:52:50] de Règlement modifiant le
[1:52:51] règlement de zonage numéro
[1:52:52] PC2775 de la Ville de
[1:52:53] Pointe-Claire afin d'assurer une
[1:52:54] concordance aux dispositions du
[1:52:56] règlement provincial sur la
[1:52:57] sécurité des piscines
[1:53:02] résidentielles.
[1:53:08] >>
[1:53:09] 5.4 Adoption of a By-Law
[1:53:10] constituting the Stewart Hall
[1:53:11] Advisory Board. Since the --
[1:53:12] significant changes updating the
[1:53:13] terminology, the
[1:53:14] responsibilities, and the
[1:53:15] mandate of the committee, the
[1:53:16] opponent of the members, as well
[1:53:17] as the number of meetings.
[1:53:18] >> For 5.3 and 5.4, do I have a
[1:53:20] mover?
[1:53:21] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:53:23] >> And seconder?
[1:53:24] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:53:25] >> All in favour?
[1:53:29] >> Mister Mayor, I'm sorry. I'm
[1:53:31] a little slow on the uptick.
[1:53:32] Might I suggest that everyone
[1:53:34] who didn't get to ask the
[1:53:37] question that the simply send by
[1:53:38] email tomorrow? So that they can
[1:53:39] still submit a question.
[1:53:41] >> We have, that has been ruled
[1:53:44] not admissible.
[1:53:45] >> No, but they can always email
[1:53:47] their questions to councillors
[1:53:48] or to the City.
[1:53:49] >> Sure. If you are concerned,
[1:53:52] you can always email us. You
[1:53:55] guys, I think you are aware of
[1:53:56] that.
[1:54:11] >> 6. Conseil municipal. 6.1
[1:54:13] Accorder un soutien financier
[1:54:14] pour un montant total de 600$ à
[1:54:15] l'école primaire St. John Fisher
[1:54:18] Sr. le comité demande un
[1:54:20] financement pour les activités
[1:54:22] reliées à la remise des diplômes
[1:54:25] de sixième année, tel que la
[1:54:28] baume définissant, la réception,
[1:54:29] le bal et la danse. 6.2 Grant a
[1:54:30] financial support
[1:54:31] For a total amount of $ 105 to
[1:54:32] The Royal Canadian Legion of
[1:54:33] PointeClaire. This financial
[1:54:36] support is for the purchase of a
[1:54:39] flower reap for the annual
[1:54:40] commemorative ceremony on June
[1:54:41] 11th. 6.3 Accorder un soutien
[1:54:42] financier pour un montant total
[1:54:45] de 500$ au Festival de Blues de
[1:54:46] l'Ouest de l'Île. un montant 6.4
[1:54:53] Grant a financial support
[1:54:54] correspond qui for a total
[1:54:55] amount of à l'achat de $ 5,000
[1:54:56] to the West Island trois billets
[1:54:57] pour les membres du conseil.
[1:54:58] Blues Festival. The West Island
[1:55:01] blues festival association
[1:55:03] organizes
[1:55:04] A show of musical groups,
[1:55:05] including a day in Pointe-Claire
[1:55:06] in September and proceeds from
[1:55:07] ticket sales go to nonprofit
[1:55:08] organizations.
[1:55:13] - 6.5 Autoriser la participation
[1:55:14] de quatre
[1:55:15] (4)
[1:55:16] membres du conseil et le maire
[1:55:17] au 12e édition du tournoi de
[1:55:18] golf organisé par les Hôpitaux
[1:55:19] Shriners pour enfants devant se
[1:55:20] tenir le 7 août 2023 au Club de
[1:55:21] golf Elm Ridge. la Ville procède
[1:55:25] à l'achat d'un quatuor de golf
[1:55:27] de
[1:55:28] (---)
[1:55:29] , décoiffée rend la
[1:55:30] participation au tournoi.
[1:55:31] >> Do I have a mover?
[1:55:37] - Je propose d'accorder les and
[1:55:39] montants noter, seconder?
[1:55:40] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[1:55:41] Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:55:42] >> All in favour?
[1:55:46] >> 7.1 File the minutes of the
[1:55:48] March 28, 2023, meeting of the
[1:55:49] Youth Advisory Board. 7.2
[1:55:54] Déposer le procès-verbal de la
[1:55:55] réunion du 26 avril 2023 du
[1:55:56] Comité consultatif jeunesse. 7.3
[1:55:57] File the minutes of the April
[1:55:58] 26, 2023, meeting of the Stewart
[1:56:00] Hall Advisory Board. 7.3 Déposer
[1:56:03] le procès-verbal de la réunion
[1:56:04] du 26 avril 2023 du Comité
[1:56:05] consultatif Stewart Hall. 7.4
[1:56:06] Déposer le procès-verbal de la
[1:56:07] réunion du 18 mai 2023 du Comité
[1:56:08] Consultatif de la Bibliothèque
[1:56:09] de Pointe-Claire. 7.5 Appoint
[1:56:10] members to the 7.5 Nommer des
[1:56:11] membres au sein du Comité d'art
[1:56:12] public de Pointe-Claire.
[1:56:13] Pointe-Claire Public Art
[1:56:14] Committee. It is recommended
[1:56:17] that two new members be
[1:56:18] appointed to the Pointe-Claire
[1:56:21] Public Art committee, being Mrs.
[1:56:22] Valérie mucky, Pointe-Claire
[1:56:23] artists, and Geneviève slow, a
[1:56:26] West Island artist for turned
[1:56:27] violent until December 21st,
[1:56:28] 2024. 7.6 Nommer un membre du
[1:56:31] conseil au sein du Comité de
[1:56:36] démolition. afin de combler un
[1:56:37] siège vacant sur le Comité de
[1:56:38] and 7.7 Appoint a Council member
[1:56:39] démolition, pour to the
[1:56:40] Pointe-Claire siéger sur ce
[1:56:41] comité.
[1:56:42] Aquatic Club. It is proposed to
[1:56:43] appoint Councillor Eric Stork
[1:56:44] does it on the Pointe-Claire
[1:56:46] aquatic Club committee.
[1:56:47] >> For 7.5 to 7.7, do I have a
[1:56:49] mover?
[1:56:51] >> Terrace in fourth, district
[1:56:52] four. I move to approve the
[1:56:54] appointment of various members
[1:56:55] to various committees.
[1:56:57] >> And seconder?
[1:56:59] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:57:00] >> All in favour?
[1:57:12] - 10. Finances et trésorerie.
[1:57:14] 10.1 Déposer la liste des
[1:57:15] amendements budgétaires et le
[1:57:16] registre des chèques pour la
[1:57:17] période du 20 avril au 24 mai
[1:57:18] 2023. 10.2 Award a contract for
[1:57:19] the acquisition of office
[1:57:20] Supplies for the period of
[1:57:21] August 1, 2023, to July 31,
[1:57:22] 2024, to NOVEXCO INC., For a
[1:57:27] total amount of $ 293,238.59,
[1:57:29] taxes included, with three
[1:57:32] periods in option. It involves
[1:57:38] the supply and delivery of
[1:57:39] office applies and printing
[1:57:40] paper to meet the needs of the
[1:57:42] cities various departments.
[1:57:47] - 11. Affaires juridiques et
[1:57:48] greffe. 11.1 Dispense de
[1:57:49] souscription au fonds
[1:57:50] d'assurance responsabilité
[1:57:51] professionnelle du Barreau du
[1:57:53] Québec. cette résolution permet
[1:57:55] de déclarer qu'aux fins du
[1:57:56] règlement sur l'assurance de la
[1:57:58] responsabilité professionnelle
[1:57:59] de la part du Québec, la Ville
[1:58:00] de Pointe-Claire se porte
[1:58:02] garante et répond financièrement
[1:58:03] les conséquences de toute erreur
[1:58:05] aux missions des deux avocats
[1:58:06] ontariens, Maître Caroline
[1:58:08] Thibault, Maître
[1:58:09] (---)
[1:58:10] , dans l'exercice de leurs
[1:58:11] fonctions, en conséquence de la
[1:58:12] ville qui est dispensée de payer
[1:58:14] les sommes ni liés à la
[1:58:16] souscription d'assurance. Do I
[1:58:19] have a mover?
[1:58:20] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:58:21] District three.
[1:58:22] >> Seconder?
[1:58:23] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:58:24] >> All in favour?
[1:58:28] >> 12.1 File the list of
[1:58:29] delegated staff changes for the
[1:58:30] month of June 2023.
[1:58:35] - 12.2 Approuver la liste des
[1:58:36] changements au Personnel par
[1:58:37] décisions non déléguées au 6
[1:58:38] juin 2023.
[1:58:41] >> 12.3, to confirm a new
[1:58:43] mandate within the framework of
[1:58:45] the regrouping of -- to proceed
[1:58:48] with a call for tenders to
[1:58:51] proceed with -- a consultant
[1:58:53] regarding the collective group
[1:58:55] insurance for municipal
[1:58:56] employees. This program provides
[1:58:58] access to the lowest
[1:59:00] administrative costs, the most
[1:59:02] advantageous insurance coverage,
[1:59:03] better control of this budget
[1:59:05] item and an insurance portfolio
[1:59:06] tailored to the needs and
[1:59:08] financial capabilities to the
[1:59:10] City of Pointe-Claire.
[1:59:11] >> For 12.2 to 12.3, do I have a
[1:59:17] mover??
[1:59:18] >> Well Eric Stork, district
[1:59:20] seven.
[1:59:21] >> Tara Stainforth, the district
[1:59:22] four.
[1:59:23] 14.1 Approuver une entente à
[1:59:24] intervenir avec ARPE Québec
[1:59:25] (L'Association pour le
[1:59:26] recyclage des produits
[1:59:27] électroniques du Québec)
[1:59:28] concernant les collectes et
[1:59:29] événements spéciaux. cet
[1:59:33] organisme à but non créatifs
[1:59:34] piloté par l'industrie
[1:59:35] coordonnée programmes de
[1:59:37] recyclage réglementés au Canada
[1:59:38] afin que les produits
[1:59:39] électroniques en fin de vie
[1:59:40] utile soient traitées de façon
[1:59:43] sécuritaire sur et écologiques.
[1:59:45] Elle recueille les produits
[1:59:47] électroniques dans des
[1:59:48] écocentres, les commerces de
[1:59:49] détail, les sites de collecte
[1:59:51] spécial.
[1:59:53] >> 14.2, to approve an agreement
[1:59:57] -- regarding the renunciation of
[1:59:59] prescription, it is in the
[2:00:03] interest of -- considering all
[2:00:04] sums that would be due between
[2:00:06] them in connection with the
[2:00:07] agreements for sharing of
[2:00:10] responsibilities -- on the three
[2:00:12] stations covering the period of
[2:00:14] January 1st, 2019, to May --
[2:00:15] 2023.
[2:00:53] >> -- do I have a mover?
[2:00:57] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:00:59] district three --
[2:01:00] >> -- district, two.
[2:01:04] >> -- preparation and execution
[2:01:07] of various -- upon requests to
[2:01:14] MBA MDA -- the purpose of this
[2:01:18] file is to award a contract for
[2:01:21] -- of various projects, in
[2:01:25] functional reservation and asset
[2:01:27] maintenance project a crown
[2:01:28] request.
[2:01:44] 15.2 Approve a change order to
[2:01:45] the contract entered in two with
[2:01:51] -- four masonry repair work at
[2:01:52] the -- Cedar park chalets for an
[2:01:54] amount of $ 9,990.15, taxes
[2:01:55] included.
[2:02:01] >> Do I have a mover?
[2:02:09] >> Tara Stainforth, district 4.
[2:02:10] >> -- two district 6.
[2:02:11] >> All in favour?
[2:02:49] >> 16.2, to approve a change
[2:02:50] order to the contract entered in
[2:02:55] two with -- construction -- for
[2:02:56] the construction of an
[2:02:57] accessible sanitary building at
[2:02:58] Augusta Park, for an amount of $
[2:02:59] 10,750.16, taxes included. At
[2:03:00] the cities request, the
[2:03:02] contractor supplied and
[2:03:03] installed an automatic door
[2:03:05] opener to -- reduced mobility.
[2:03:40] 16.4 Approve a change order to
[2:03:41] the contract entered into with
[2:03:43] Réhabilitation Du O Inc., For
[2:03:44] the construction and development
[2:03:45] of a cycle path between Alston
[2:03:46] and Mason avenues, for an amount
[2:03:50] of $ 11,267.55, taxes included.
[2:03:56] The installation of a second --
[2:03:57] to close the trail. To vehicles
[2:04:03] using the trail illegally --
[2:04:04] >> For 16.1 to 16.4, do I have a
[2:04:10] mover?
[2:04:11] >> Eric Stork, district 7?
[2:04:12] >> And seconder?
[2:04:13] >> Brent Cowan, district 8 --
[2:05:17] >> For 16.5, do I have a mover?
[2:05:24] >> Cynthia Homan, district 5?
[2:05:28] >> A seconder?
[2:05:29] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:05:30] district 3?
[2:05:31] >> All in favour --
[2:05:32] >> Mr. Mayor, I would like to
[2:05:34] speak to this matter.
[2:05:36] >> --
[2:05:37] >> -- a lot has happened. We
[2:05:38] have seen a citizens movement
[2:05:40] culminated in over 300
[2:05:41] signatures, the vast majority
[2:05:42] from north of you
[2:05:47] Shriners Northview the district
[2:05:52] seven -- just without the
[2:05:56] outfield -- I say, again, the
[2:05:58] neighbours are for baseball
[2:06:00] league play. I repeat, this is
[2:06:01] not a case of NIMBYism -- simply
[2:06:06] asking that they be heard and
[2:06:07] their inputs carefully weighed.
[2:06:08] We made the initial decision, I
[2:06:11] believe, without considering the
[2:06:12] special impact on the
[2:06:13] neighbourhood. Luckily, we now
[2:06:15] have the opportunity to change
[2:06:17] the decision. This is not about
[2:06:18] baseball versus other
[2:06:19] activities. This is not about
[2:06:21] local citizens versus the rest
[2:06:22] of the city. It is about
[2:06:24] optimizing use and enjoyment of
[2:06:26] our remaining green spaces. In
[2:06:27] doing so, we must not allow one
[2:06:30] usage to dominate another. We
[2:06:31] are, or should be, about
[2:06:33] compromise. The proposal to
[2:06:35] build a fence now, and then
[2:06:37] review after one year makes no
[2:06:38] sense. If we proceed, to spend
[2:06:43] over $100,000, and then make a
[2:06:48] potential -- offence later --
[2:06:49] this would be a clear waste of
[2:06:51] taxpayers money. Much better to
[2:06:53] -- empower our DG to --
[2:06:56] substituting a batting cage for
[2:06:57] offence, among other options. In
[2:07:00] summation, the fence is not
[2:07:02] required of Baseball Québec four
[2:07:05] league play. There is no
[2:07:06] evidence given that removing the
[2:07:07] fence option creates any
[2:07:09] additional risk of players or
[2:07:10] any increased insurance risk.
[2:07:12] And, as proven by this change
[2:07:14] order, negotiate modifications
[2:07:15] to the contract are feasible,
[2:07:17] whereas the fence would
[2:07:19] negatively impact the enjoyment
[2:07:20] of the much loved open green
[2:07:21] space at Northview park.
[2:07:25] Therefore, accepting a provision
[2:07:27] in this resolution under
[2:07:28] discussion that removes the
[2:07:30] eight foot fence and -- contract
[2:07:32] for a value of the fence, I move
[2:07:34] the following amendment. The --
[2:07:39] provision that adds back the
[2:07:40] eight foot high fence and -- an
[2:07:43] alternative to the fence, such
[2:07:44] as a batting cage, or another
[2:07:49] substitute.
[2:07:50] [Applause]
[2:07:53] >> So, we have a mover. Do I
[2:07:57] have a seconder?
[2:07:58] >> -- mover and a seconder for
[2:07:59] this proposition -- I sumo that
[2:08:03] Mr. Eric Stork, you move your
[2:08:06] proposition?
[2:08:07] >> --
[2:08:08] >> --
[2:08:10] >> Councillor Brent Cowan just
[2:08:11] seconded --
[2:08:13] >> Mr. Mayor, I would like -- to
[2:08:15] the comment in the -- my
[2:08:19] perception that the reason why
[2:08:20] this is a -- baseball field is
[2:08:22] that it has always been a --
[2:08:25] baseball field and that set in
[2:08:28] motion with the Public
[2:08:30] municipality and -- you just
[2:08:32] keep making it better for the --
[2:08:36] and you neglect to be -- and as
[2:08:38] I had said, in April or May, I
[2:08:42] think that was a mistake that we
[2:08:43] did not -- and the second thing
[2:08:48] is the and this does create a
[2:08:51] transformational change in the
[2:08:53] neighbourhood -- and when, in
[2:08:56] many other areas of municipal
[2:08:59] action, like when you do zoning
[2:09:01] bylaws, et cetera, when you are
[2:09:04] proposing a transformational
[2:09:05] change to a zoning bylaw or a
[2:09:06] major -- zoning, bylaw, you
[2:09:11] always make -- like you heard
[2:09:12] tonight -- or something like
[2:09:13] that so the public becomes
[2:09:14] aware, and that allows the
[2:09:16] public, then, to organize if
[2:09:18] they want to. You were denied
[2:09:19] that option because we did not
[2:09:21] see it. We just voted on it
[2:09:23] three months ago. And so, I log
[2:09:30] laud you four -- you are not
[2:09:33] allowed, actually, to bring in a
[2:09:35] sign and show it at a public
[2:09:36] meeting. But, for all that, I'm
[2:09:38] proud to second this motion.
[2:09:40] [Applause]
[2:09:45] >> So, the motion is?
[2:09:48] >> We need to vote on the prep
[2:09:53] proposition made by -- so, a
[2:09:55] vote --
[2:09:56] >> So, all in favour?
[2:09:57] >> Against?
[2:10:04] >> -- sorry, I just want to make
[2:10:06] sure --
[2:10:07] >> Yeah, that's what I was
[2:10:08] asking. I agree.
[2:10:13] Juste pour être certaine, je
[2:10:16] vais être clair pour les gens
[2:10:18] dans la salle et à la maison,
[2:10:19] pour vous-même et moi-même. La
[2:10:24] proposition d' Amendement, en
[2:10:25] autres mots...
[2:10:26] >> In other words, Mr. monsieur
[2:10:28] Eric Stork Starke propose
[2:10:29] proposed --
[2:10:30] Dans plus de retirer l'item
[2:10:32] portant sur le filet en arrière
[2:10:34] champ, vous proposez de retirer
[2:10:36] également la clôture de 8 pieds.
[2:10:39] En d'autres mots, c'est ce que
[2:10:40] vous proposez?
[2:10:41] - Exactement.
[2:10:42] - Parfait.
[2:10:43] >> Who is in favour of that?
[2:10:44] >> Who is in favour of that?
[2:10:47] That was against?
[2:10:54] >> Okay.
[2:10:55] >> Okay.
[2:10:57] >> Thank you. Now we go back to
[2:10:58] the main proposition --
[2:11:03] >>
[2:11:04] >> Now we need a mover -- a vote
[2:11:05] on the main preposition?
[2:11:07] >> So, all of those in favour of
[2:11:13] 16.6 -- all against?
[2:11:21] >> Voting --
[2:11:22] >> You are voting on the main
[2:11:25] proposition without the
[2:11:27] amendment proposed by Mr. Stork
[2:11:30] because --
[2:11:31] >> Now, we are voting on --
[2:11:34] >> Just to remove the net. Okay?
[2:11:37] Do you want to re-vote now?
[2:11:41] >> I think not.
[2:11:44] >> I just want to make sure
[2:11:47] everybody on the room --
[2:11:53] >> Clarity is always a good
[2:11:54] idea. 16.6?
[2:12:01] >> -- contract for the
[2:12:04] structural rehabilitation
[2:12:05] between two there
[2:12:09] Tudor avenue -- taxes included.
[2:12:18] 16.7 Rejeter toute soumission
[2:12:19] reçue dans le cadre de l'appel
[2:12:20] d'offres concernant le
[2:12:21] remplacement des coffrets
[2:12:22] d'éclairage sur le boulevard
[2:12:23] Saint-Jean puisque le prix est
[2:12:24] trop élevé par rapport à notre
[2:12:27] estimation. For you 16.6 and
[2:12:30] 16.7, do I have a mover?
[2:12:32] >> -- district five.
[2:12:35] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:12:36] district 3.
[2:12:37] >> All in favour? --
[2:12:43] >> The persons -- present
[2:12:46] Council on the subjects, here
[2:12:47] under from items 17.1 -- 17
[2:12:50] point, one consider a minor
[2:12:52] exemption request concerning the
[2:12:53] property situated at 139
[2:12:54] Windmill Avenue. With a front
[2:12:57] setback of -- metres rather than
[2:12:59] the minimum required of 7.5
[2:13:00] metres.
[2:13:01] 17.2 Considérer une demande de
[2:13:05] dérogation mineure concernant la
[2:13:06] propriété sise au 5501,
[2:13:09] Autoroute Transcanadienne.
[2:13:12] Joaquin être six réservoirs
[2:13:14] d'entreposage plutôt que dans la
[2:13:16] marche arrière qui, deux
[2:13:17] appareils mécaniques dans la
[2:13:19] marche droite plutôt que de
[2:13:21] l'{city_council} arrière, tel
[2:13:22] que requis.
[2:13:23] >> 17.3 Consider a conditional
[2:13:24] use request concerning the
[2:13:25] property situated at 35 Cartier
[2:13:26] Avenue. Which is to allow a
[2:13:30] class D one commercial use being
[2:13:32] -- on the existing commercial
[2:13:33] terraces.
[2:13:34] 17.4 Considérer les plans
[2:13:35] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:13:36] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:13:37] propriété sise au 12, avenue
[2:13:42] Salisbury. pour Daytona ovation
[2:13:43] et une extension extérieure.
[2:13:45] 17.5 Amend Resolution
[2:13:46] 2021-022 in order to modify the
[2:13:49] 6 th condition applicable to the
[2:13:50] conditional use permitted at 17
[2:13:51] Place de la Triade -- the
[2:13:57] modification refers to the
[2:13:59] requirement for continuous green
[2:14:00] while on the specifications of
[2:14:01] the types of plants and
[2:14:02] landscaping required.
[2:14:03] 17.6 Modifier la résolution
[2:14:04] 2022-544 afin de modifier les
[2:14:07] délais autorisés pour la
[2:14:08] réalisation des travaux relatifs
[2:14:09] à l'aménagement de l'entrée
[2:14:13] charretière au 118, avenue
[2:14:17] Broadview. l'entrepreneur
[2:14:18] recommande qu'une période
[2:14:19] suffisante de compaction des
[2:14:20] sols soient autorisée afin de
[2:14:21] procéder à l'installation finale
[2:14:23] de revêtement de sol. 17.7 Amend
[2:14:26] Resolution 2023-204 in order to
[2:14:27] modify the condition applicable
[2:14:28] to the minor exemption permitted
[2:14:32] at lot 2 528 020 of the Cadastre
[2:14:34] of Québec (corner Avro Avenue
[2:14:35] and De l'Aviation Road).
[2:14:39] The purpose of the amendment is
[2:14:40] a clarify the terms of the
[2:14:42] conditional condition applicable
[2:14:43] to the landscape of the lot.
[2:14:53] - The do I have 17,1 à 17,7 ans
[2:14:54] a mover?...
[2:14:58] >>
[2:14:59] You.
[2:15:00] >> -- district 2.
[2:15:01] >> All in favour?
[2:15:05] >> All against?
[2:15:06] >> Mr. Mayor, I'm in favour of
[2:15:07] each of these items except 17.4.
[2:15:21] - 18.1 Autoriser la soumission
[2:15:22] d'une demande pour le programme
[2:15:23] d'aide financière du Ministère
[2:15:24] de l'Éducation pour la gratuité
[2:15:25] de la formation des
[2:15:26] surveillants-sauveteurs et des
[2:15:27] moniteurs aquatiques 2023-2026.
[2:15:31] Il s'agit d'autoriser la
[2:15:33] signature de la demande par
[2:15:34] monsieur le maire Tim Thomas.
[2:15:35] 18.2 Approve a subsidy agreement
[2:15:36] within the framework of the
[2:15:38] Celebrate Canada Program to be
[2:15:39] entered into with His Majesty
[2:15:40] the King in
[2:15:41] Right of Canada represented by
[2:15:42] the Minister of Canadian
[2:15:43] Heritage. Since the city cannot
[2:15:48] sign an agreement directly with
[2:15:49] the Government of Canada and in
[2:15:51] order to -- government of
[2:15:52] Québec.
[2:15:54] 18.3 Autoriser un don de au
[2:15:55] Centre de services scolaire
[2:15:56] Marguerite-Bourgeoys et à
[2:15:57] l'école secondaire
[2:15:58] Pierre-Laporte d'équipements de
[2:16:01] musculation appartenant à la
[2:16:05] Ville. quatre appareils de
[2:16:06] musculation du centre sportif
[2:16:09] Oliver ont atteint leur fin de
[2:16:11] vie utile. Il est proposé de
[2:16:13] faire un don d'équipement afin
[2:16:15] que les appareils puissent
[2:16:17] continuer d'être utilisé dans un
[2:16:19] environnement d'utilisation
[2:16:20] moins fréquentes.
[2:16:24] >> -- do I have a mover.
[2:16:28] >> Do -- you district 4?
[2:16:32] >> And a seconder?
[2:16:35] >> We Eric Stork, district 7 --
[2:16:37] >> And foreclosure --
[2:16:38] >> --
[2:16:39] >> All in favour? Excuse me,
[2:16:40] it's a long night, folks. Now,
[2:16:44] closure. Foreclosure moving, do
[2:16:46] I have a mover?
[2:16:50] >> Tara Stainforth, district 4.
[2:16:51] The thanks for that.
[2:16:52] >> And seconder?
[2:16:55] >> Bruno Tremblay, district 6.
[2:16:56] >> All in favour?
[2:16:58] Thanks everyone.
[2:16:59] Merci tout le monde.