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Mesdames et Messieurs, bonsoir

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et bienvenue à cette séance

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ordinaire du 2 avril. Ladies and

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gentlemen, good evening and

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welcome to the April 2nd

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meeting. Avant de débuter la

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séance, j'aimerais vous parler

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de quelques activités et

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changements qui ont lieu en

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avril. Il y a toujours beaucoup

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d'effervescence, oui, à

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l'arrivée du printemps. Entre...

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entretien du printemps. Au cours

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des dernières semaines, en

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raison des températures

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clémentes, la ville a entamé ses

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opérations d'entretien pour le

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printemps. Afin de faciliter les

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opérations, la Ville demande aux

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citoyennes et aux citoyens

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d'éviter de stationner leur

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véhicule dans la rue. The City

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has begun in spring maintenance

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operations in order to

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facilitate operations, we are

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asking citizens to avoid parking

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their vehicles on the street.

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Des changements au collectes en

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2024. Il y a des changements

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dans les collectes. Cette

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semaine, à compter du 4 avril,

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la collecte des matières

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recyclables se déroulent le

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jeudi. La collecte des matières

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organiques demeure le lundi. Le

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mercredi 10 avril aura lieu une

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collecte d'encombrant pour tout

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les secteurs. Dès le lundi 15

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avril, les collectes de feuilles

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auront lieu les lundis aux deux

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territoire. There are changes in

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your collections this week,

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starting April 4th. Recyclables

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will be collected on Thursdays,

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organics will continue to be

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collected on Mondays. On

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items will be collected in all

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sectors. Starting Monday, April

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15th, leaf collection will take

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place on Mondays. Every two

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weeks for the entire territory.

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Bless you if you can remember

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all of that. Inscriptions aux

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activités nautique. À compter du

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lundi 8 avril, les résidents et

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les résidentes auront la chance

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de s'inscrire aux activités

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nautique et au programme de

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compétition pour la session

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d'été 2024. Les non-résidents

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pourront s'y inscrire à partir

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du mardi 18 avril. They come

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2024, online registration for

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day camps begins on April nine,

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for residents and on May 2nd,

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for non residents. You can

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consult the-day camp program to

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choose from recreational,

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sports, cultural, and nautical

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camps. Jour de la Terre. Encore

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une fois cette année, nous

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allons souligner le jour de la

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midi, réservez votre arbre en

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ligne sur le site Web de la

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ville. Avant la réservation,

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vous pouvez bénéficier des

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conseils d'une ou d'un

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spécialiste en foresterie qui

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sera disponible pour répondre à

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vos questions le jeudi 11 avril.

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The first hundred people to

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reserve a tree can also reserve

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a free reign water barrel. It

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time as the tree on Saturday,

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April 27th. In the meantime, you

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available trees on the website.

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Trees are offered as part of

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earth day. Il y a une très belle

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exposition au Centre Stewart

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Hall jusqu'au 21 avril

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réunissant les travaux de trois

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artistes: Annie France Leclerc,

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et Vicky Sabourin. The

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carefulness and the blade is a

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very interesting exposition at

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Stewart Hall. I hope you will

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have the opportunity to see it.

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It is on display until April

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21st. Les athlètes de

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Pointe-Claire. Des athlètes de

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Pointe-Claire se sont démarqués

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aux Jeux du Québec qui se sont

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déroulées en mars en remportant

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une médaille pour leur

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délégation. Pointe-Claire

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athletes made their mark in

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March, getting a medal for their

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delegation. The Paterson and

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Deux médailles d'or en curling.

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A gold medalists and curling,

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cou et Victoria Bowen, qui ont

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reçu des médailles d'argent en

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hockey féminin. Silver medals

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for women's hockey in 13 and 14

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years old category. Each

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categories. I believe on a final

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note, I just want to make a

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couple of comments on two events

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that I visited last week. Part

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of the beauty through the job of

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being mayor is that you get to

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support local organizations that

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often plug holes in our social

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safety net and services that

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otherwise would not get done and

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some of them are quite

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magnificent at it. The first one

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was liberty house. It is a

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housing program for women

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reintegrating society. They are

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a dedicated team that are

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committed to helping women in

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recovery find the rightful and

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productive place and their

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society and it was quite an

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uplifting meeting. As well, I

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attended Pointe-Claire's first

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repair café. Now, repair cafes

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are very interesting. They are

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popping up all over Europe. And

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all over the world, in fact. And

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it was conducted, the first one

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was conducted at fab zone. I

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would have liked, it was well

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intended but I would've liked

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even better attendance. Fab

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zones next repair café will be

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on Sunday April 21st just in

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time for earth day. They keep

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thousands of items out of

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landfill by bringing volunteers

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with skills and knowledge into

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the community to demonstrate how

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are broken items can be fixed.

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your items and have them

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repaired, and it is happening in

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the fab zone at April 21st. Et

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je pense que c'est tout. Est-ce

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qu'on a des... I guess we will

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move to the council members

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reports, I will start it with

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district eight. With Councillor

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>> I have nothing to report.

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the diocese got back to us.

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think so. But I am somewhat

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disturbed by the question,

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because you are part of the

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committee that is responsible

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for that response, along with

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the director general, whereas I

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had a deal on the table, we've

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chosen an alternate route for

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who is responsible. I'm

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wondering why you are asking me

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when you are in fact, in charge

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of that.

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diocese will not report to me.

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to you. And you are supposed to

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solicit a response through our

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director general, I believe that

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is what the resolution

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specified. Where we not supposed

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to get a response?

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>> The deal was that it was the

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director general, under year

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authorization, was supposed to

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solicit a response before the

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conclusion of this process. Yes,

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if we go back and read the

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resolution, absolutely. I find

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your question very interesting

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Councillor Cousineau. Councillor

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>> Thank you, Mister Mayor. One

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thing is a project on Lakeview,

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lakeside, I've asked the

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administration and Madam Verdun

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has accepted that they will

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prepare a presentation for

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citizens, it is done right now

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when we have a street

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reconstruction project where

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they can take this area,... Son

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invité à venir. Il y a une

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présentation faite de tout le

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projet. Les gens peuvent poser

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des questions. Ils vont savoir

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encore s'en tenir. Because this

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particular thing is also,

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Lakeview, is not only up until

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July, it will be Lakeside and

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Lakeview, than it is lakeshore,

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starting in July. Then the STM

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bus route is going to be

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rerouted using hillside, and

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lakeside and hillside. So it is

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just to give you an idea. We

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have to do the work, it is going

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to get done, there is no doubt

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about that. However, the thing

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is, at least you know what is

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coming. You know how it goes. Of

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course, a communication was very

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good on the projects we have

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done before with the foreman on

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that. That is what it is all

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about. No surprises, and it

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happens, it is Installation de

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conduites d'aqueduc de 900

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millimètres. Remplacement des

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égouts pluvieux et sanitaire,

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pavage. So it is connecting with

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the water with the filtration

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point clear and the other ones.

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So it is a Montréal project,

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however, when I've asked the

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people of Pointe-Claire,... Le

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gouvernement de proximité. That

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means you are close to the

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action. And if you are, you

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should have answers, you should

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be able to give people answers

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to questions. That is why they

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are making an effort on this

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one, it is different than what

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you have had before, but getting

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the information and giving it to

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you, so you will be advised. Do

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not worry, and I think that so

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far, it has gone well. They

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fast and this is the second

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week, maybe, now. So I think

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that it is going very well.

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Merci beaucoup. >> Good evening.

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reconstruction of avenue

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Monterrey and mill haven will be

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happening this year. It was part

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of the capitalization program.

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government so we are very happy

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to announce it is going to go

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through. And there will be a

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meeting of citizens when we get

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a bit closer to it and explain

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to them how it will affect their

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garbage bins and this type of

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thing. I'm very happy to

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announce that we are doing that,

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thank you.

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>> Councillor Tremblay?

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>> Nothing for tonight.

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>> Good evening everyone, I just

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wanted to make mention of some

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special thankyous that I had

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meant to do in March but know

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that there is a few we will come

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together nicely. I did want to

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thank the community of wisdom

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and church who hosted an amazing

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event for black history month

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and I think it is very important

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that they are trying to reach

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out to the community and they

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are relatively new members in

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the area on Mount Pleasant. So I

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just wanted to thank them. But

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also, we have some important

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work being done by different

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groups in the community and I

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want to thank them for their

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food Ministry that continues

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ongoing as well as the women's

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center who did a lovely

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celebration for International

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Women's Day. I think these

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different organizations are key

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to our community and they are a

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special way to help bring, we

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have our fabric together. Thank

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you to all of those who are

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contributing to the Valois

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Committee and Pointe-Claire at

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large.

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>> Councillor Stork?

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>> Oui, juste une couple de

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commentaires concernant le

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secteur. For those who attended

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my successful town hall the

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documentation is available to

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switch out and provide with

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follow-up questions and

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communications as well in this

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agenda today, we will see we are

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passing the reconstruction of

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the tennis court at Northview.

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It is a good project. Many

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citizens came and asked me about

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the cost. I explained it to the

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best of my ability. It was

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completely transparent and done

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properly, secondly, a major

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reconstruction being proposed

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today, hopefully it is accepted

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by fellow council members. But

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that being said, there will be a

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communication as well, and a

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meeting with the citizens in the

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area to discuss the plans to

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review them briefly. All

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citizens in the area have been

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communicated with in terms of

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their in lines of the water and

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other major concerns that would

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exist. I think that is another

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positive project for

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Pointe-Claire and for the

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citizens. Thank you.

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>> Okay. Councillor, tennis and

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pickleball court, pickleball is

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growing in popularity as we

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speak. So it should be mentioned

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in conjunction with tennis. I

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just want to point out that I'm

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supposed to give the mayor's

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remarks after. For that, I

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apologize. But we can continue

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with the agenda in the meantime.

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- Alors 1.1 adoption de lors du

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jour avec des ajouts. >> 1.1

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adoption of the agenda with one

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addition under the section.

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19.1, for the complete

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reconstruction of services on --

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and the amount of 1 million

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$848,709.47, taxes included. Et

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à 19. Deux, octroyer un contrat

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concernant la reconstruction de

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l'avenue Montgomery et l'avenue

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Mail Haven entre l'avenue

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comprenant un montant total de 3

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millions quatre aurait fait 1530

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et 40 taxes incluses.

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Maintenant, on peut procéder à

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l'adoption de l'ordre du jour.

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Now you can proceed with the

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adoption of the agenda.

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>> Do I have a mover?

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>> --

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>> And seconder?

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- Bruno Tremblay, district. All

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in favour? 3.1 Approuver le

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procès-verbal de la séance

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ordinaire du 12 mars 2024.

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Do I have a mover? And seconder?

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All in favour?

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- Période de questions.

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- Pour la période de questions,

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ce soir, à la période de

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questions, vous avez été

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accueilli à l'entrée pour vous

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inscrire à la période de

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questions. L'intention de cette

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démarche est d'abord de

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permettre aux personnes de

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demeurer assise jusqu'à l'appel

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de leur nom et d'accorder la

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priorité aux résidents et

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résidentes de Pointe-Claire. 01,

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nous garderons 90 minutes pour

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la période de questions. 02 une

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personne à la fois au micro.

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Nous vous remercions d'attendre

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qu'un citoyen ait terminé de

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poser sa question et que vous

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soyez appelé à vous lever pour

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venir poser votre question. Oui

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3, et les non-résidents présents

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pourront poser leurs questions

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par la suite si le temps n'est

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pas écouler. For question period

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tonight, you were greeted at the

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entrance to register for

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question period, the goal of

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this approach is to allow people

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to remain seated until their

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name is called and give priority

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to Pointe-Claire residents, we

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shall stick to the 90 minute

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time limit for question period,

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one person at a time at the

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microphone. Thank you for

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waiting for a citizen to finish

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asking their question and to be

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called before you get up to ask

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your. Is nonresidents present

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will be able to ask questions

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afterwards if there is still

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time. On a final note, I'm just

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looking at the list of names

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here. Some of them are legible

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and some of them are. Not so I

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apologize in advance if I

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mispronounce your name. I will

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do my very best. Ken Lyons?

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>> Good evening. There is one

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thing I don't know if you have

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noticed. We do not have a

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railroad track going through

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Pointe-Claire anymore except the

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REM. But we still have crossed

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box on Sources Road to indicate

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that there is a railroad there.

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That is off of it. There are

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still tracks but they are not

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going anywhere. So perhaps we

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can remove the

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-- and a suggestion instead of

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throwing out considerate as a

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historical artifact. We used to

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have a track way before our time

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that came off what was known at

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the time, the Grandtrunk

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railway, now CN, it went all the

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way to the lakeshore. Right

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along Cartier. It went all the

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way down there. We have trucks

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to go to the water and that is

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what I'm saying. Instead of just

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turning that item out, consider

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using it as a historical

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artifact along that weight.

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>> That is an interesting

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comment. I'm a little confused.

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We do have a train going through

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Valois.

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>> What I'm trying to say is

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yes, I understand, but there is

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no railroad track going across

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sources road and at ground level

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north of Hymus.

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>> Okay. Where the sign is.

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>> It is right on the side of

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the road. And I think on the

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other side of sources is

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probably Dorval that has that

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one. But we can take care of

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ours.

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>> It is an interesting

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suggestion. I thank you for it.

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>> The other thing, you talked

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about cleaning. With the

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construction going on Hymus

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right now on both north and

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south sides, the sidewalks are

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really not very clean, there is

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mud on them, they haven't been

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cleaned, the street has been

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swept, but the sidewalk itself

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from the construction site on

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the south side going all the way

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to St. John's, and it is the

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same thing on the north side

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going all the way to still view.

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Could it be possible that it be

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clean without delay?

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Est-ce que c'est possible? >> We

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are working. We know about the

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situation and we are working to

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make sure that it is clean. We

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do our best at cleaning it every

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day.

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>> May I ask when it will be

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cleaned?

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>> It's supposed to be every

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day. So we have an inspector

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there each day. Every day.

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>> Thank you. One final comment,

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if I may.

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>> Question or comment?

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>> Comment. I am a proud

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Canadian. I'm also a proud

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Quebecer, but Canadian first.

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And it works me to know and to

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see what we have up here, the

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flag of preeminence should be

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the Canadian flag, which it is

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not. We have the Québec flag, I

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know the Québec government wants

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us to do that, but I'm sorry,

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Québec is not a country. Québec

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is a province part of Canada.

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Please give the Canadian flag

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its preeminence.

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>> Madame Verdon?

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>> We discussed several times

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that we are a provincial

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government bylaw. So we have to

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follow, unfortunately, the

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provincial flag protocol.

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>> But they are not going to

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come around --

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>> Well --

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>> Are you sure?

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>> Yes. I had it changed.

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>> So the priority and Kirkland

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is the Canadian flag? The

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protocol is different in

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Kirkland? I'm wondering about

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the protocol of the flags. That

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is intriguing. We tend to, with

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our flags, we try to follow the

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protocol of both levels of

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government that has been on a

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practice. I will speak to

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Michelle, I call him after the

560
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:14,060
meeting.

561
00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:26,060
The Crossing on sources, the

562
00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:29,060
track Crossing, you call it a

563
00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:34,060
buck? I remember under the

564
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:37,060
previous administration we had

565
00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:40,060
to pay to have it prepared. But

566
00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:44,060
it was that CN or CP said that

567
00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:49,060
they are still using it.

568
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,060
It is either the REM that should

569
00:21:55,060 --> 00:22:00,020
pay, we should check it out.

570
00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:08,020
Just keeping the sign -- so I

571
00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:10,020
can sell it and might antique

572
00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:13,020
store. Yep

573
00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:15,020
>> Stephanie?

574
00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:25,020
>> Good evening. Approchez-vous

575
00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:28,020
du micro. Sorry, I love my notes

576
00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:29,020
at home. I came straight from

577
00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:31,020
work. So I will try to keep it

578
00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:34,020
brief. What I would like to

579
00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,020
bring forth our issues I have

580
00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:41,020
discussed with councillors.

581
00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:44,020
Because they are both

582
00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:46,020
accessibility and environmental

583
00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:48,020
issues. So if you allow me to

584
00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:53,020
just give some brief back ground

585
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:55,020
I would like to start with a

586
00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:58,020
quote from Dr. Joseph Allen, he

587
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,020
is the director of healthy

588
00:22:59,020 --> 00:23:02,080
buildings at Harvard School of

589
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,080
Public Health and the quote is

590
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,080
something like I do not have it

591
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,080
word for word but it is your

592
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080
building manager has a greater

593
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,080
impact on your health and your

594
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,080
medical doctor. And on this note

595
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,080
I want to bring that fragrance

596
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,080
is said to be the new secondhand

597
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,080
smoke. And it is an

598
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,080
accessibility issue but also an

599
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,080
environmental issue. So, a bit

600
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:37,080
of background, a lot of times

601
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080
fragrances or chemically

602
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,080
sensitive folks are saying

603
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,080
there's a fragrance and I'm not

604
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
feeling well. There's many

605
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,080
different symptoms. Someone will

606
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,080
say I am not wearing perfume.

607
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080
But fragrances a term that is

608
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,080
used that it can represent many

609
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,080
chemicals hidden. They do not

610
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,080
necessarily have to be

611
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,080
disclosed. A lot of them are

612
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040
protected under proprietary

613
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040
laws. It started sometimes in

614
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,040
the 70s in the States. There's

615
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,040
not much transparency but they

616
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,040
can regroup carcinogens, hormone

617
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
disrupters, and the effects of

618
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,040
things like asthma and

619
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,040
migraines.

620
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040
But all and all they are really

621
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,040
a barrier. It is not well

622
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,040
understood because they are data

623
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040
-- I would like the town, if it

624
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,040
is possible, to consider having

625
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,040
awareness around fragrance.

626
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
There is a whole other passage

627
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,000
that says if you are chemically

628
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,000
sensitive, or if you go to

629
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000
health care in B.C. or even in

630
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
the transport, it shows clearly

631
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000
fragrance free and also because

632
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
they are known to lower studies

633
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,000
have shown that they lower

634
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000
considerably indoor air quality.

635
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000
They affect humans, on humans,

636
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
and they are often forever

637
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000
chemicals. They do not wash away

638
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000
they accumulate in the area, and

639
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,000
the soils. So I thought that it

640
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000
would be a great place for

641
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000
Pointe-Claire to show

642
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000
leadership, especially in the

643
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000
province by the spaces it has

644
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
jurisdiction over to have a

645
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000
fragrance free policy so to go

646
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000
back a bit, fragrance is, I did

647
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000
not really explain, but you can

648
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
find it in skincare, you can

649
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
find it in soaps, you can find

650
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,060
it in devices that are

651
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:03,060
deceptively known as air

652
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,060
fresheners. But there is nothing

653
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:08,060
from them that actually freshens

654
00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:09,060
the air. As a matter of fact

655
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:12,060
they increase VOCs into the air

656
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:15,060
and they create migraines for

657
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:17,060
some, as smoke for others,

658
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:20,060
exotic, Segura. So, I thought,

659
00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:24,060
you know, awareness, if the town

660
00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:28,060
could have unscented soap or as

661
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:31,060
an access, so I guess that is

662
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:35,060
one of my big backgrounds and my

663
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:36,060
question and I know the

664
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:38,060
councillors, I've spoken to

665
00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:41,060
supported as well, for the

666
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:43,060
environment, and in terms of

667
00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:46,060
accessibility. The other issue,

668
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:51,060
I am aware that they are both

669
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,060
sensitive issues. The second one

670
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:56,060
is fireworks, as someone who my

671
00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:58,060
background is conservation, and

672
00:26:58,060 --> 00:27:01,020
marine sciences, to me I know

673
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:04,020
the science is clear that

674
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:06,020
fireworks, they present an issue

675
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,020
for people who have PTSD, for

676
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:10,020
young kids, but also for

677
00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:13,020
wildlife, for many non human

678
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:15,020
companions, but they are also,

679
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:17,020
in terms of last summer, we had

680
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:20,020
the smog. If places like

681
00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:22,020
Tremblant, who really depend on

682
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:26,020
tourism, and Banff, and I think

683
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:29,020
that we can follow suit easily.

684
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:31,020
Especially backed with the

685
00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:33,020
studies. I sent one of my fellow

686
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:35,020
citizens, because we talk a lot

687
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:36,020
about that, there is a recent

688
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:38,020
article that came in the CBC

689
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:43,020
that shows that Québec has 30%,

690
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,020
I can't remember the statistics,

691
00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:48,020
something like 30% above what is

692
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,020
recommended by environmental

693
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,020
doctors in terms of what is

694
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,020
allowed. So they are already

695
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,020
passing what is allowed. So I

696
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:57,020
would like to know if we can

697
00:27:57,020 --> 00:28:01,080
bring forth alternatives such

698
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,080
as, you know, I can't find the

699
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,080
words. But there is a nice

700
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080
little lights that you release,

701
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,080
it could be a nice community

702
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080
thing to do or to look into

703
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
different alternatives, so that

704
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,080
is it.

705
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,080
>> Okay. Good points, all of

706
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,080
them. As far as fragrance, I

707
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,080
hear you. I can wear a fragrance

708
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,080
that gives me a headache. And I

709
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080
know what you are getting at.

710
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,080
The problem, I mean, using

711
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,080
products, that is a good

712
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,080
suggestion. I can't answer

713
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080
offhand for staff but it sounds

714
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080
like a doable suggestion. The

715
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,080
enforcement, of course, is the

716
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,080
other difficulty with that one.

717
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,080
But it is an issue. I agree. But

718
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,080
certainly, I think we can look

719
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080
into using unscented products as

720
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:56,080
part of our modus operandi? Yes?

721
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,080
Okay, and?

722
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,040
>> Last week we said we had a

723
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
discussion eventually.

724
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,040
>> Is it possibility to have

725
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,040
unscented products? Are they

726
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040
available to us?

727
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,040
>> We have to look at it.

728
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040
>> I work a lot in that field,

729
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,040
so there is also a lot of

730
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,040
greenwashing out there but

731
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,040
there's some locally made in

732
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Québec used in Pierrefonds

733
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
library, for example has, or

734
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,040
dollars has eco-friendly

735
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,040
products.

736
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040
>> I must say that on the

737
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040
fireworks issue, your point is

738
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,040
well taken. And we have debated

739
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,040
that extensively as a Council.

740
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,040
We are aware of that but it is a

741
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040
tough call. And the problem is

742
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,040
the alternatives are not as good

743
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,040
yet. That is not necessarily an

744
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040
excuse. But we don't seem to be

745
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,040
as good, or as expensive. It has

746
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,040
bearing on the equation but I

747
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,040
will show you as a Council it is

748
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,040
very close on that one. And it

749
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,000
has bounced back and forth. And

750
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
we are aware of that. And there

751
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000
are a lot of us that are

752
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
conscious of that negative

753
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
environmental impact.

754
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000
>> Thank you.

755
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000
>> -- Is that okay, Carl?

756
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
>> Thank you for having me. I'm

757
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
not very good in front of

758
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
people. I just have two things

759
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,000
to go ahead and kind of ask or

760
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
say. I'm talking close enough?

761
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,000
I'm a little tall. There we go.

762
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Okay. Thank you. So, like the

763
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000
gentlemen went ahead and pointed

764
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000
out previously, I walk a lot. I

765
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
like to walk. I live,

766
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
unfortunately, right next to a

767
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
construction site. I walk pretty

768
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
much every day. Not usually when

769
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
it rains, but I walk almost

770
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
every day. And I find when I

771
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
walk on the sidewalks, like you

772
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
went ahead and mentioned, the

773
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,060
amount of dirt when it rains it

774
00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:02,060
turns into mud, and when it's

775
00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:04,060
hot outside, it turns and to

776
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:05,060
dust. And unfortunately, the

777
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:06,060
amount that is actually on the

778
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:08,060
street, I can tell you that the

779
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:10,060
street gets clean when the

780
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:11,060
Pointe-Claire street cleaner

781
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:12,060
comes around, but the sidewalks,

782
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:14,060
it is rare that they go ahead

783
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:17,060
and get cleaned at all. I am

784
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:19,060
actually, I work for the City of

785
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:21,060
Montréal, and I know that in our

786
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:22,060
towns, are districts, whenever

787
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:24,060
there is a huge construction

788
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:26,060
project like this, they actually

789
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:28,060
go ahead and there's a lot of

790
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:30,060
the cities that do not own the

791
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:31,060
equipment that cleans the

792
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:32,060
streets, they run them, they

793
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:34,060
leased them, so it is a

794
00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:35,060
possibility for these

795
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:36,060
construction properties to

796
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,060
actually lead slim as well. And

797
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:39,060
a lot of construction projects

798
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:41,060
actually do that in the City of

799
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:42,060
Montréal. Where they are

800
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:43,060
required to go ahead and have

801
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:45,060
street cleaners and sidewalk

802
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:46,060
cleaners come through. I

803
00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:47,060
understand the street cleaners,

804
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:49,060
for example, in Pierrefonds, we

805
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:51,060
have a big project and they come

806
00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:52,060
every night to go ahead and

807
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:53,060
clean the street. But I know

808
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:56,060
other places, other towns, they

809
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:57,060
actually come on a Thursday, or

810
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:59,060
once a week, or whatever, when

811
00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:00,020
they actually come and do the

812
00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:02,020
job. Because it is not getting

813
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:04,020
done here. So that is why I was

814
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:05,020
wondering why that is something

815
00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,020
that we can implement, I mean,

816
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:08,020
these are huge developers that

817
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,020
are with millions of dollars.

818
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:12,020
And that is a drop in the bucket

819
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:14,020
for them. But it is something

820
00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:16,020
that makes it a little bit more

821
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,020
tolerant for us that if you are

822
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,020
not going to take care of the

823
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,020
sidewalk why of it open to

824
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:22,020
pedestrians in the first place,

825
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:25,020
right? That is my first point.

826
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:27,020
And for my second point, it

827
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:29,020
would also go back, I know it is

828
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:34,020
a municipality by a law, you

829
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:35,020
guys have not posted on the

830
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:37,020
construction site in orange that

831
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:38,020
they have to clean up after

832
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:40,020
themselves. When you walk, and

833
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:43,020
you can see this guy had lunch,

834
00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:44,020
and you can see his coffee cup

835
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:46,020
on the neighbours lawn and you

836
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:48,020
can see his beagle wrapper

837
00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:50,020
across from that and you can

838
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:51,020
find during your walk, you can

839
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,020
go ahead and piece together what

840
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:56,020
he ate for lunch and it is a lot

841
00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:58,020
of garbage. My neighbours no

842
00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:01,080
longer walk to the park, they no

843
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,080
longer walk near Baker because

844
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,080
there's that much garbage that

845
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,080
floats around next to the

846
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,080
construction sites. I understand

847
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080
that it is the end of winter and

848
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,080
snow melts. You go ahead and as

849
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,080
someone who works with this, I

850
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,080
work through the winter, and we

851
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,080
didn't really have much of a

852
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,080
winter to begin with. I think

853
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,080
there's no excuse. You have

854
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,080
almost 100 people a day that

855
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,080
work on these construction

856
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080
sites, they are able to go ahead

857
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,080
and litigate the task to go

858
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
ahead and clean up this garbage

859
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,080
to make living next to the

860
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080
construction site a little bit

861
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,080
easier. I just want to know why

862
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,080
that is enforced, since it is

863
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,080
already a rule per Pointe-Claire

864
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080
that they cannot have lying

865
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,080
around indoor construction zone.

866
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080
>> I would love for us to

867
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,080
enforce that and I have no

868
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080
sympathy on that one. I really

869
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080
concur with you that it should

870
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,040
not be happening. I am just

871
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040
wondering if we have the teeth

872
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,040
to enforce that? Do we have the

873
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,040
teeth to enforce the proper

874
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040
cleanup on a more regular basis?

875
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
>> We look at that tomorrow to

876
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,040
be sure that we can do it. It

877
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,040
was on Hymus?

878
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,040
>> I encourage you -- actually

879
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040
on Del Mar. I mean, you guys

880
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,040
just started construction on the

881
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
street today but if you take a

882
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,040
look at the other side of the

883
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,040
street, just that corner alone

884
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,040
be careful. You don't want to

885
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
get hit by something.

886
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,040
>> I am always careful.

887
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,040
>> You are saying careful in

888
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Montréal this is more diligently

889
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,040
attended to?

890
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,040
>> Yeah they actually have,

891
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,040
especially for street cleaning,

892
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
a lot of projects, like if they

893
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
are big projects especially,

894
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040
where there is machinery that

895
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040
will be going on and off the

896
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
street. You know, forklifts,

897
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,040
jeans, everything. And these

898
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,040
things have big money tires.

899
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000
And, you know, they bring mud

900
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,000
from the construction site onto

901
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
the street. And it is not

902
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
something that you guys, in the

903
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,000
summer last year, especially

904
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
when it gets very does to you

905
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
guys mandate the construction

906
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000
site to have a buggy with a

907
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
trailer. And they sprint water

908
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000
down on the streets to go ahead

909
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
and keep the dust down. I think

910
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
that is more kind of so they do

911
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,000
not dirty themselves. They do it

912
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
for themselves but no one is

913
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
saying they have to do it for

914
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
citizens. It exists out there.

915
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
It is not something new. It is

916
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
definitely something to look

917
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
into, I think.

918
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
>> Thank you for your

919
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
observations. I appreciate it.

920
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
>> Have a good evening.

921
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,000
>> Alex Russo?

922
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
>> Hello. I will be brief and

923
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000
quick. There's four things I'm

924
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000
going to say. I will sum it up

925
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
in one question in the end. And

926
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,000
that is it. First of all I was,

927
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000
one team is transit because we

928
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
know we are headed to massive

929
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
transit issues in Pointe-Claire,

930
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
especially with the REM. Have we

931
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
started proactively opening up

932
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,060
talks with the ARTM? All of the

933
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:05,060
transit authorities to try to

934
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:07,060
address this before it is a

935
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:10,060
problem, as opposed to after?

936
00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:11,060
And in a previous council

937
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:13,060
meeting, I actually suggested

938
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:16,060
that we split the tax payments

939
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:20,060
in two installments and actually

940
00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:24,060
-- I granted out the numbers

941
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:27,060
with your own finance directors,

942
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:29,060
so it looks like based on our

943
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,060
budgets, we could actually

944
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:32,060
easily afford it at this point.

945
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:34,060
Maybe going to the surplus,

946
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:35,060
maybe you lose another little

947
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:36,060
project on the side or something

948
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:38,060
along those lines, so that is

949
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:39,060
something --

950
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:44,060
>> For our own transit? So --

951
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:50,060
>> For Pointe-Claire. So you

952
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:52,060
pay, basically Montréal.

953
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:56,060
>> So your tax bill, your annual

954
00:36:56,060 --> 00:37:00,020
tax and ways that you get, you

955
00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:03,020
can split it into four for the

956
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:05,020
citizens. So some people can't

957
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:07,020
pay 2400 outright it is tough

958
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:09,020
for that. And it will cost the

959
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:11,020
city about 600 K to do this.

960
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:13,020
That is an insane amount of

961
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,020
money. So we can do it.

962
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:17,020
>> Slightly less and repairing

963
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:20,020
our window. I hear you. Go

964
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:21,020
ahead.

965
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,020
>> Anyways, that was, it I was

966
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,020
just following up on that one. I

967
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,020
was just curious what was going

968
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:30,020
on here. I also notice the new

969
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:32,020
construction, I will call it

970
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:34,020
whatever it is, they are putting

971
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:35,020
it up there, it will have a

972
00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:37,020
direct impact on traffic where

973
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:38,020
it could proceed ahead of time.

974
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,020
I was hoping that we can

975
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:41,020
instruct our traffic committee

976
00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:43,020
to proactively address that

977
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,020
situation. Either, I don't know,

978
00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:47,020
one way southbound where the

979
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:49,020
bike lane as a possibility, a no

980
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:51,020
entry exit at the and directly,

981
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,020
you might need to address

982
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:54,020
traffic situations on St.

983
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:55,020
John's, but I think that we need

984
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:58,020
to get ahead with these

985
00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:01,080
problems. And the last thing is

986
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
to make sure that we work

987
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080
towards much more active transit

988
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
going towards the 2 am stations.

989
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,080
So don't feel like we are we

990
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,080
need a secured path to be there.

991
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Whatever you want. But it is not

992
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
your car. Second of all, we also

993
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,080
need security, runs because

994
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,080
bikes will get stolen like no

995
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,080
tomorrow. That's all I had.

996
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:27,080
>> Okay. Well, the first one I

997
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,080
would like to speak to is if you

998
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,080
wanted -- okay. I voted last

999
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,080
meeting with Alex and Michelle,

1000
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080
the mayors of Dillard and

1001
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Kirkland, because they have not

1002
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,080
specified St. Johns, St.

1003
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,080
Charles, and sources as public

1004
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080
transit oriented corridors in

1005
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,080
their own budgeting, in their

1006
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080
own documentation, which was

1007
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,080
astonishing, guys. We would

1008
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,080
certainly like for that to

1009
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,080
happen. I mean, one of the

1010
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,040
bigger issues with the REM is

1011
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
getting to it, and in

1012
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,040
Pointe-Claire, south in

1013
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,040
particular. You got the 20 and

1014
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,040
the 40, so as you well know

1015
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,040
there is an overpass. There are

1016
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,040
a couple of overpasses in the

1017
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,040
works which is good news, so we

1018
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040
still need a ton of effort to

1019
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,040
make the north and south to the

1020
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,040
REM viable. And one of those

1021
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,040
suggestions is the extension to

1022
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
the jock bizarre corridor. And

1023
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040
ideally, even making a public

1024
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040
transit oriented corridor so

1025
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,040
that people from Pointe-Claire

1026
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
south could get straight to the

1027
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
REM from along that corridor.

1028
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040
With the priority on transit and

1029
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,040
emergency vehicles. And that has

1030
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040
been a discussion on our level.

1031
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,040
So I hear you loud and clear on

1032
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
that one. As for May would, yes,

1033
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
it is going to be an issue, and

1034
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,040
everyone is aware of that. You

1035
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
are quite right. And that is

1036
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,040
going to be something to be

1037
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,040
dealt with, and it is a

1038
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040
challenge, absolutely, the

1039
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,040
traffic committee will have to

1040
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,000
work on that and we will have to

1041
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000
figure it out big time. But the

1042
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
other option would have been as

1043
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
-- even worse, as far as traffic

1044
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
density on that corridor. So we

1045
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000
are grappling with a difficult

1046
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,000
challenge, less of a challenge,

1047
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
but still a challenge,

1048
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000
nonetheless. And I hear you loud

1049
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000
and clear. Thank you.

1050
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000
(inaudible)

1051
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Tax splitting?

1052
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
>> I will speak to Mr. Seguin

1053
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
about that. It has been kicked

1054
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
around and Council. We have not

1055
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000
resolved that one. It is a

1056
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
possibility, although the cost

1057
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
is a factor. Did you want to

1058
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
speak to that one, Councillor

1059
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Stork?

1060
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
>> Just in reference to that,

1061
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
the procedure will definitely be

1062
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
an open book transparent event,

1063
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
we haven't heard much about it,

1064
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
we go to their website rarely to

1065
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
see if there's any updates, but

1066
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
that will be part of the

1067
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
procedure. All traffic will be

1068
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
looked at, as we mentioned,

1069
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
kicked around maybe one away, or

1070
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000
two ways, it will be all of that

1071
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
that will be discussed as the

1072
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,060
project moves forward. I can

1073
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:04,060
tell you that it is one of the

1074
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:07,060
biggest issues and we will all

1075
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:12,060
stay on top of that, for sure.

1076
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:17,060
>> John Patrick? Yvon qu'Albert.

1077
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:25,060
Je m'excuse. Je m'excuse, Yvon.

1078
00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:30,060
Thank you, Daniel.

1079
00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:35,060
- Bonsoir. Où en est la ville

1080
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:38,060
avec les arbres envahissant les

1081
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,060
fils électriques? Est-ce que

1082
00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:42,060
vous avez fait un relevé de tout

1083
00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:43,060
ce qu'il y avait?

1084
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:47,060
- Pas assez. On peut faire plus,

1085
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:48,060
absolument. Vous parlez au sujet

1086
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,060
des fils électriques?

1087
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:53,060
- Non, non. Je demande: est-ce

1088
00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:55,060
que la Ville a fait un relevé de

1089
00:41:55,060 --> 00:41:57,060
tous les arbres qui envahissent

1090
00:41:57,060 --> 00:41:58,060
les fils électriques?

1091
00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:00,020
- Probablement que non, parce

1092
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:03,020
que c'est toujours le cas. Les

1093
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:04,020
arbres s'accordiez toujours.

1094
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:05,020
Alors, on ne sait jamais, mais

1095
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:07,020
on essaye.

1096
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:10,020
- Ça grandit. L'année dernière,

1097
00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,020
à cette période-ci, on était

1098
00:42:12,020 --> 00:42:14,020
trois, quatre, cinq jours sans

1099
00:42:14,020 --> 00:42:15,020
électricité.

1100
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:16,020
- Oui, je me souviens.

1101
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:17,020
- On recommence cette année,

1102
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:18,020
demain, après-demain?

1103
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:21,020
- Non, c'est déjà commencé.

1104
00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:24,020
C'est une job énorme. On ne veut

1105
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:25,020
pas couper les arbres pour

1106
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:26,020
aucune raison non plus. On veut

1107
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:27,020
préserver les arbres.

1108
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:32,020
- Pourquoi pas? Hydro-Québec à

1109
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:33,020
réalité qu'ils doivent les

1110
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:34,020
couper.

1111
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:35,020
- Oui.

1112
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,020
- Alors, pourquoi la Ville ne le

1113
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:37,020
fait pas?

1114
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:38,020
- Absolument. C'est absolument

1115
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:41,020
nécessaire. On le sait, ça. On

1116
00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:43,020
fait de notre mieux.

1117
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:44,020
(---)

1118
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:47,020
Aussi est responsable. Hydro.

1119
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:49,020
- Moi, j'avais un arbre à 1

1120
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,020
mètre et demi d'un poteau, d'un

1121
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:56,020
poteau d'Hydro. 1 mètre et demi.

1122
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,020
Alors, ça m'a coûté plus de 3000

1123
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:02,080
dollars pour l'enlever. Est-ce

1124
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,080
que la Ville fait une subvention

1125
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,080
pour ça?

1126
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,080
- Bonne question. Ça dépend qui

1127
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,080
est le propriétaire de l'arbre.

1128
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,080
- C'est à la limite entre la

1129
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,080
ville et moi.

1130
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,080
- Oui, ça va être la prochaine

1131
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,080
question aussi. Si c'est votre

1132
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,080
arbre, c'est votre

1133
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,080
responsabilité.

1134
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,080
- Donc, on met la moitié sur la

1135
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,080
ville et la moitié chez moi.

1136
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Notre chose: la facture

1137
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,080
électrique de la Ville doit être

1138
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,080
assez élevé avec tous les

1139
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,080
bâtiments qu'il y a. Avez-vous

1140
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
déjà pensé à mettre des panneaux

1141
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,080
photovoltaïque sur tous les toi

1142
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,080
des bâtiments de la ville?

1143
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,080
- C'est une bonne question.

1144
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080
C'est une très bonne question.

1145
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Madame Verdon, est-ce qu'on a

1146
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,080
parlé de ça?

1147
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,080
- Il y en a beaucoup, des

1148
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,080
bâtiments.

1149
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,080
- Oui, oui. On a beaucoup de

1150
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,080
bâtiments. Ce n'est pas une

1151
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,040
mauvaise idée. C'est le coût

1152
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,040
puis la possibilité de le faire.

1153
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040
- Ce n'est pas un projet qui est

1154
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,040
amorcé présentement à la ville.

1155
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,040
C'est quelque chose qu'il

1156
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,040
faudrait regarder avec la

1157
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,040
rentabilité aussi. Mais pour

1158
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,040
l'instant, ce n'est pas un

1159
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
projet d'avoir des panneaux

1160
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,040
électriques. Mais je ne vous dis

1161
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040
pas que ce ne serait pas quelque

1162
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,040
chose, dans le futur, qu'on va

1163
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,040
regarder.

1164
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,040
- Merci.

1165
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040
- Merci, Monsieur. Maintenant,

1166
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,040
monsieur Kilpatrick, John

1167
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Kilpatrick.

1168
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,040
>> Last month, you made some

1169
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,040
statements, and honestly --

1170
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,040
honestly, I was gonna come here

1171
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,040
and have a debate with you, but

1172
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,040
I'm not going to degrade myself

1173
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040
to your level.

1174
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040
>> That is a little harsh, sir.

1175
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,000
I don't think my level is

1176
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
degrading yourself. With all due

1177
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
respect, Mr. Kilpatrick, that

1178
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,000
exchange was filmed. That

1179
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,000
exchange was film. People can

1180
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
decide for themselves of that. I

1181
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,000
think your statement is not a

1182
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
correct one, and it is not a

1183
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
nice way to start a question.

1184
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Please continue.

1185
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
>> So, I've been trying to get

1186
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
the city to listen to me for --

1187
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,000
about my three problems, since

1188
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,000
April of last year. It was clear

1189
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000
that it was not getting anywhere

1190
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000
with the administration, at the

1191
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
suggestion of my councillor, I

1192
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
came here to get you, Mister

1193
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Mayor, and the Council to

1194
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
understand my problem. And to

1195
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000
act on it, as I am told, this is

1196
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,000
my right. But that did not work,

1197
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
either. First, Mister Mayor, you

1198
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
said you didn't know anything.

1199
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Then, you said that you didn't

1200
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000
support --

1201
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
>> That is on a webcast, that is

1202
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
recorded, I did not say that.

1203
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,060
Please continue.

1204
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:05,060
>> Thank you. Then you said you

1205
00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:09,060
supported whatever your staff

1206
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:12,060
had told me. Then you said that

1207
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:13,060
you didn't know anything about

1208
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:16,060
the email that I received that

1209
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:18,060
was originally sent out by your

1210
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,060
staff over your signature block.

1211
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:23,060
Then you said you did not know

1212
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:26,060
about the email. But then you

1213
00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:30,060
didn't write it. Getting over, I

1214
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:33,060
finally gave up on February the

1215
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:37,060
7th of 2024. I was done with the

1216
00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:40,060
tree. Then I hear that in the

1217
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:42,060
March meeting, you called me out

1218
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:46,060
as a plant. I told you before

1219
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:48,060
that there was an email from

1220
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:50,060
you, my councillor had forwarded

1221
00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:55,060
to me, I'm sorry -- I don't like

1222
00:46:57,060 --> 00:47:01,020
this. They forwarded near answer

1223
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:04,020
to the question I had actually

1224
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:07,020
asked you. But that you never

1225
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:09,020
sent to me. I didn't know why

1226
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:11,020
you just didn't answer me

1227
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:13,020
yourself. Or have your staff

1228
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:16,020
answer for you. If you were too

1229
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:20,020
busy, but, to call me a plant?

1230
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:22,020
Are you going to apologize?

1231
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:25,020
>> Mr. Kilpatrick, what happened

1232
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:27,020
in all of that exchange was an

1233
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:29,020
email was given to you that was

1234
00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:31,020
an internal email. So I was

1235
00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:33,020
being asked where there are

1236
00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:35,020
people who were being encouraged

1237
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:37,020
to asked questions by other

1238
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:39,020
councillors. You actually, just

1239
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:40,020
in your statement, suggested

1240
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:42,020
that your presence here is a

1241
00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:44,020
suggestion on the part of your

1242
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:45,020
Councillor. So you are

1243
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:47,020
confirming, exactly what I just

1244
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:50,020
said. And your first, unofficial

1245
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:51,020
trip to the microphone was based

1246
00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:53,020
on an email that was internal

1247
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:55,020
that was written not by me,

1248
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:56,020
which you stated it was written

1249
00:47:56,020 --> 00:47:59,020
by me, and it was in fact

1250
00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:02,080
written from my office by my

1251
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,080
assistant, and it was an update

1252
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,080
of an issue. And it wasn't any

1253
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,080
kind of conspiratorial email,

1254
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,080
but you made it and implied like

1255
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
it was as such. And you have

1256
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
been given that email, which was

1257
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080
an internal email. So if ever

1258
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,080
there was an example of someone

1259
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,080
being sent to a microphone to be

1260
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,080
asked a question based on

1261
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,080
internal information, you are

1262
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,080
it, and I stand by that

1263
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,080
statement. And I would encourage

1264
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,080
all of our processes going

1265
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,080
forward to not reveal internal

1266
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,080
emails to citizens because it is

1267
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,080
not a helpful part of the

1268
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,080
process. It does not add for a

1269
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,080
positive result.

1270
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,080
>> Mister Mayor, you are

1271
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,080
implying that I did something.

1272
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,080
>> Councillor Cowan, I am still

1273
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,080
speaking. I am still speaking. I

1274
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,080
am the chair of this meeting.

1275
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Councillor Cowan, I will

1276
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,040
continue to answer me. You have

1277
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
already been responded to on

1278
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,040
numerous occasions. You were

1279
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
responded to politely from this

1280
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
microphone at least three times.

1281
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,040
Two or three times in your

1282
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,040
visits. You have not been

1283
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,040
ignored. There is no need for

1284
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,040
another email or response.

1285
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040
You've been spoken to politely

1286
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,040
and I have resorted to the

1287
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,040
expertise of my staff. My staff,

1288
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,040
who are professionals, have

1289
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,040
given a result, or a study of

1290
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,040
your tree. And I am confident of

1291
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,040
their advice. They are paid to

1292
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,040
do that, they are professionals,

1293
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,040
we are not in the habit of

1294
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,040
cutting trees unnecessarily. I

1295
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,040
have taken their advice. That is

1296
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,040
my answer then, that is my

1297
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,040
answer now.

1298
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
>> So you are not going to

1299
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,040
apologize?

1300
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,040
>> I'm not going to apologize,

1301
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,040
no. I encourage the citizens of

1302
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Pointe-Claire to review yours

1303
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,040
and my exchanges at the

1304
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000
microphone. It is webcast. And

1305
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
we will let them decide. Whether

1306
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000
an apology from me is an order

1307
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,000
or vice versa.

1308
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,000
>> Okay. So I guess there's no

1309
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000
point discussing my tree.

1310
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,000
>> You have been given the

1311
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000
answer. Unless you have a

1312
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,000
different question pertaining to

1313
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
your tree.

1314
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,000
>> You've been saying since

1315
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
October, November.

1316
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
>> This is your second or third

1317
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
question. We are proceeding

1318
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,000
accordingly, and I would like to

1319
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,000
know what your next question is.

1320
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000
You've already engaged the mayor

1321
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
on a couple of points, I will

1322
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
conduct another one.

1323
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,000
>> I've only ask you one

1324
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000
question. You interrupted my

1325
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000
speech.

1326
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,000
>> I didn't interrupt, you are

1327
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,000
correct to do a couple of times,

1328
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000
you are allowed to continue.

1329
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
>> Thank you.

1330
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:07,060
>> This is a basic argument. In

1331
00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:08,060
order to properly make my trees

1332
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:12,060
safe, I must either prune or get

1333
00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:13,060
my tree as per the city or cut

1334
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:17,060
it down. The city accepts this

1335
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:20,060
fact. We are in agreement that

1336
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:22,060
the City tells me that I cannot

1337
00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:25,060
choose for myself the best way.

1338
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:27,060
I have to make the trees safe,

1339
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:29,060
but I am not allowed by cutting

1340
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:31,060
it down. The city is forcing

1341
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:33,060
need to spend money to keep this

1342
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:35,060
tree, and make it safe for

1343
00:51:35,060 --> 00:51:40,060
everybody else. I could keep the

1344
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:43,060
public safe and help the

1345
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,060
environment by cutting the tree

1346
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:47,060
down and replacing it with two

1347
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:48,060
saplings. But the city will not

1348
00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:53,060
let me. Since I am responsible

1349
00:51:53,060 --> 00:51:56,060
to make the trees safe, but I

1350
00:51:56,060 --> 00:51:58,060
can't cut it down, the City is

1351
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:01,020
forcing me to -- this would cost

1352
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,020
me $1,800 to prepare the tree

1353
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:06,020
for the cabling, which would

1354
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:09,020
cost me another $3,000. In

1355
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:12,020
total, $4,800 versus $3,000 to

1356
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:16,020
have it cut down. If I trim the

1357
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,020
tree, every two years, it will

1358
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:21,020
cost me an additional $1,000 per

1359
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:23,020
two years. Which would cost me

1360
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:28,020
another $10,000 in total. Which

1361
00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:32,020
would then be out of my pocket,

1362
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:35,020
and it would keep my neighbours

1363
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:38,020
safe. Isn't this keeping

1364
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:42,020
citizens safe, the city's

1365
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:43,020
responsibility? If I cut the

1366
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:46,020
tree down I will pay $3,000,

1367
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:48,020
when I replace it, with the two

1368
00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:50,020
saplings, I will pay another

1369
00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:52,020
$300, which will cost me another

1370
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:56,020
total of $3,000. There will be

1371
00:52:56,020 --> 00:52:57,020
no need for any more pruning,

1372
00:52:57,020 --> 00:53:00,080
further maintenance in my

1373
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,080
lifetime. So it will be 3300 for

1374
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,080
the next four years or so.

1375
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Do you think it is fair to force

1376
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,080
one citizens to pay the cost to

1377
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
keep everyone else safe? When

1378
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,080
there is a cheaper option

1379
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,080
possible? If the City wants to

1380
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080
keep the tree that badly

1381
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
shouldn't it be paying the

1382
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,080
additional cost? The City of

1383
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
Pointe-Claire is ordering me to

1384
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,080
spend my money to preserve it

1385
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,080
damaged tree on my property for

1386
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,080
the safety of others. So that

1387
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,080
people in general can benefit.

1388
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Has the city mandated this

1389
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,040
action to any other resident? Or

1390
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,040
am I being singled out once

1391
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,040
again?

1392
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,040
>> Since the city is making a

1393
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,040
prison by forcing me to spend my

1394
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040
money to preserve this tree, I

1395
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,040
would expect that the City would

1396
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,040
then be doing this for all

1397
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
unsafe items on residents and

1398
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040
private property. For example,

1399
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,040
the windmill which is owned by

1400
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,040
the church, it is on the

1401
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,040
church's property, which is in

1402
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,040
dire need for repairs. As it is

1403
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,040
unsafe. Why is the City willing

1404
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,040
to put $1 million of taxpayers

1405
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,040
money there and not force the

1406
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
church to put the entire bill?

1407
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,040
As you are mandating need to do.

1408
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,040
In closing, I reviewed all of my

1409
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,040
notes, emails, and videos. I was

1410
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,040
wondering, why do you have the

1411
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,000
right to single out a person and

1412
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
accuse this person of being a

1413
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,000
plant by anyone else just

1414
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,000
because you were criticized? I

1415
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
was also wondering what the rest

1416
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
of the city, including Council,

1417
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
and the administrations think

1418
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,000
about you suppressing free

1419
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
speech when you don't happen to

1420
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
like what is being discussed at

1421
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,000
the council meeting?

1422
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,000
>> I think that is not a fair

1423
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
suggestion. This is your third

1424
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
attempt on the same issue.

1425
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Clearly this is not a

1426
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,000
suppression of your expression

1427
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
at all. You have had a freedom

1428
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,000
of expression, we are done, I am

1429
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000
responding, we are done, I am

1430
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,000
responding. You have been

1431
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,000
allowed to speak quite

1432
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,000
extensively. Now I am

1433
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,000
responding. This is my response.

1434
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
You don't get to rebut. I am

1435
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
going to answer but you do not

1436
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,060
get to rebut. You've asked your

1437
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:02,060
questions and I am now

1438
00:56:02,060 --> 00:56:05,060
answering. There is no rebuttal.

1439
00:56:05,060 --> 00:56:09,060
All right? So, first of all, you

1440
00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:13,060
had ample opportunity to express

1441
00:56:13,060 --> 00:56:17,060
yourself regarding your tree.

1442
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:18,060
You are still refusing to accept

1443
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:20,060
the city's response which was

1444
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:23,060
given to you by my arborists and

1445
00:56:23,060 --> 00:56:25,060
more than one trained expert.

1446
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:27,060
You had outside opinions, all of

1447
00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:29,060
them are the same, people want

1448
00:56:29,060 --> 00:56:30,060
to keep the tree alive, people

1449
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:32,060
want to keep the tree alive

1450
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:33,060
because it is not fair to cut

1451
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:36,060
trees down when they are not

1452
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:38,060
dead. So we try and keep the

1453
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:39,060
simplest way to keep our

1454
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:40,060
environment healthy is to not

1455
00:56:40,060 --> 00:56:44,060
cut down trees. To keep our

1456
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:46,060
environment cleaner and to have

1457
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:47,060
trees, they help us survive. So

1458
00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:50,060
it is the goal of an arborist to

1459
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:52,060
decide whether to cut a tree or

1460
00:56:52,060 --> 00:56:53,060
not and whether it's life should

1461
00:56:53,060 --> 00:56:55,060
be terminated and professionals

1462
00:56:55,060 --> 00:56:58,060
do that. They advise us, I

1463
00:56:58,060 --> 00:56:59,060
listen to them. You are not

1464
00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:01,020
being singled out, this is a

1465
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:03,020
rule that applies to citizens

1466
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:04,020
across the entire city and we

1467
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:06,020
are not in the habit of cutting

1468
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:08,020
a tree down because it might

1469
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:13,020
have a wound or something on it.

1470
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:15,020
I suspect the arborist are

1471
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:17,020
trying to preserve trees as long

1472
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:20,020
as they can without cutting them

1473
00:57:20,020 --> 00:57:21,020
down. You are not being singled

1474
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:25,020
out. As for the archdiocese, we

1475
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:27,020
have tried to get the

1476
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:28,020
archdiocese to repair the window

1477
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:31,020
and we continue to try and do

1478
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:33,020
that. We have solicited the help

1479
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:35,020
of other variables of government

1480
00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:37,020
to do that as well. So it is not

1481
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:38,020
like we haven't tried and we

1482
00:57:38,020 --> 00:57:41,020
continue to do so. Thank you,

1483
00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:44,020
Mr. Kilpatrick. Thank you very

1484
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:48,020
much. This is the third I just

1485
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:54,020
answered your question. This is

1486
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:57,020
your third trip and your third

1487
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:59,020
visit to the microphone and

1488
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:02,080
succession meetings with respect

1489
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,080
to all the other citizens. That

1490
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,080
is hardly polite of you and

1491
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,080
hopefully that was shown on

1492
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,080
tape. It just goes to character.

1493
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080
Paul Atkinson?

1494
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,080
>> Good evening.

1495
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
I have a council meeting about

1496
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,080
six months ago where some

1497
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,080
residents were asked to meet

1498
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,080
with the City to discuss ways to

1499
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,080
restore our quality of life

1500
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,080
following the inflation to town

1501
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,080
houses behind our houses. Out of

1502
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,080
that meeting came an offer from

1503
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
the City to install hedges along

1504
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080
the back of our properties or

1505
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080
have two trees get into us to

1506
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,080
plant in our backyards. When the

1507
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,080
arborists came to speak to us

1508
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,080
about this in November, she was

1509
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,080
unaware that the hedge was an

1510
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,080
option. Then last week we

1511
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,040
received emails from the

1512
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,040
arborists saying that we have

1513
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:07,040
until April 5th, and there is no

1514
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,040
mention of the hedge. And nobody

1515
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,040
has gotten back to me. It is

1516
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,040
difficult for residents to say

1517
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,040
if they want the trees, if they

1518
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,040
don't know what the hedge option

1519
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,040
is. In addition to that, one of

1520
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,040
the issues with the trees is

1521
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,040
that it seems quite large, and

1522
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,040
it is questionable and viable

1523
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,040
for our properties given the

1524
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,040
proximity that they will be to

1525
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:35,040
power lines. So, what we want to

1526
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,040
know is is the hedge still an

1527
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
option? If so, what kind of

1528
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,040
hedges it, what would be the

1529
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,040
height when it is installed,

1530
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,040
right now there is a three foot

1531
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040
tall hedge that was installed on

1532
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040
the properties to ensure

1533
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,040
privacy, but it is completely

1534
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,040
useless. And we also want to

1535
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,040
know, is this in addition to the

1536
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,040
trees or is it either, for?

1537
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,040
Because from the Councillors

1538
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,000
email, it seemed as though it

1539
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,000
was either or. So, you know? If

1540
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,000
we select trees in three days

1541
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,000
time, does not mean that we are

1542
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,000
no longer allowed to have hedges

1543
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,000
installed? So, there's just a

1544
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,000
lot of things that are going

1545
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,000
unanswered, and there's a very

1546
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,000
tight deadline.

1547
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,000
>> Okay. I hear you. Madame

1548
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,000
Verdon?

1549
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,000
>> Okay, the tree or hedges or

1550
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,000
two different things. We have

1551
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
people choosing edges, so maybe

1552
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000
at your house, they weren't

1553
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,000
aware. Because we have the list

1554
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,000
of people who chose one or the

1555
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,000
other. I know the contact people

1556
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,000
with the trees right now, and we

1557
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000
are in the process for the price

1558
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,000
of the hedge. It would be small,

1559
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,000
three or four feet, because it

1560
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,000
would be higher, there's the

1561
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,000
chance of survival that would be

1562
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,000
not good, and we just want to

1563
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,000
remember that we will provide

1564
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,060
the hedge. And you know, we

1565
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:04,060
can't go in the yard of people

1566
01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:06,060
planting them. So we would

1567
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:07,060
provide the hedge.

1568
01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:09,060
>> So would be delivering three

1569
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:10,060
foot tall hedges?

1570
01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:14,060
>> Three or four.

1571
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:17,060
>> Okay. The ones are installed

1572
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:19,060
along the property line --

1573
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:20,060
>> Could you get closer?

1574
01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:22,060
>> The ones that were installed

1575
01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:23,060
at the property line, they were

1576
01:01:23,060 --> 01:01:24,060
three feet tall. Right now, they

1577
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:26,060
are maybe four, five. They are

1578
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:29,060
very sparse. It just seems like

1579
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:33,060
it is -- like I said, the one on

1580
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:35,060
the ground side is useless. I

1581
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:37,060
have very low confidence and it

1582
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:42,060
being provided any hedges idle.

1583
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:44,060
You don't seem to have much

1584
01:01:44,060 --> 01:01:45,060
confidence yourself.

1585
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:49,060
>> No, you know, we can provide

1586
01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:52,060
the amount, and the height of

1587
01:01:52,060 --> 01:01:56,060
the hedge, that we can, and --

1588
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:59,060
because we cannot, you know? It

1589
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:00,020
depends on the size, so it is

1590
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,020
difficult to explain for

1591
01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:04,020
everybody. So it is on a case by

1592
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:05,020
case.

1593
01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:08,020
>> Sorry -- I don't understand.

1594
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:10,020
>> So the size and the amount of

1595
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:11,020
the hedge, depending on the

1596
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:13,020
space we have in the yard,

1597
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:15,020
basically. So which one would be

1598
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:17,020
the better size, for the better,

1599
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:20,020
you know, quality. So we want to

1600
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,020
find the best quality for the

1601
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:22,020
citizens, basically.

1602
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:24,020
>> So when will we know? Because

1603
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:25,020
we have to make this decision in

1604
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:27,020
two days if we want trees or

1605
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:28,020
hedges, and we don't know what

1606
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:30,020
the hedge is.

1607
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:32,020
>> We are presenting the offer,

1608
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:34,020
you, know we are waiting for it.

1609
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:35,020
>> So you won't have it in time

1610
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:37,020
for the deadline of the trees?

1611
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:38,020
>> No, probably not.

1612
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:41,020
>> So you are forcing the hands

1613
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:44,020
of people to make a decision --

1614
01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:46,020
>> The arborists from the city,

1615
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:48,020
people are asking if they want

1616
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,020
to hedge or the trees.

1617
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:52,020
>> Multiple neighbours spoke to

1618
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:53,020
the arborist and told her that

1619
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:55,020
they wanted hedges, and were

1620
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:57,020
told that she knew nothing about

1621
01:02:57,020 --> 01:02:59,020
the edges.

1622
01:02:59,020 --> 01:03:01,080
>> Okay.

1623
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,080
>> Okay?

1624
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,080
>> So you need to know before

1625
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,080
missing out on the trees whether

1626
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,080
you are getting a hedge -- so

1627
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,080
can we get a decision on the

1628
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,080
hedge before they can

1629
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,080
relinquish, not get the trees?

1630
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,080
Because of the can get the hedge

1631
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,080
they will opt for the trees.

1632
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,080
>> I think it is something we

1633
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,080
have to discuss after City

1634
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,080
Council with the citizens

1635
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,080
directly to have all the

1636
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,080
information.

1637
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,080
>> But they have four or five

1638
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,080
days, we don't have time.

1639
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,080
>> But I don't have all of the

1640
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,080
information with me right now.

1641
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,080
>> Okay --

1642
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,080
>> I don't see how we could

1643
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,080
possibly schedule something.

1644
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,080
This came out on March 27th.

1645
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,080
>> Well we can find out whether

1646
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,080
you are getting the hedges

1647
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,080
pretty quickly. If you could

1648
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,080
send me an email tomorrow, we

1649
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,080
could try to follow up on

1650
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,080
whether you will get hedges or

1651
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,080
not. If you won't get hedges,

1652
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,080
you will opt for trees, I'm

1653
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,080
assuming?

1654
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,080
>> It is still unclear if the

1655
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,080
trees are viable, given the size

1656
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,080
of the trees that are being

1657
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,080
offered. And the powerlines that

1658
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,080
we have on our properties. It is

1659
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,080
unclear if these would be a good

1660
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,040
fit for our yards.

1661
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,040
>> So you need an arborist.

1662
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,040
Yeah.

1663
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,040
>> Yes, we need answers.

1664
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,040
>> I hear you. You've made a

1665
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,040
good point. We will get on it. I

1666
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,040
will get on it first thing

1667
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,040
tomorrow.

1668
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,040
>> All right, thank you.

1669
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040
>> Thank you, sir. Susan Weaver?

1670
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,040
>> Okay. Last month's council

1671
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,040
meeting, you falsely accused me

1672
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,040
of being planted at Council

1673
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,040
meetings by councillors. You not

1674
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
only accused me, but also

1675
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,040
accused another citizen as being

1676
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,040
planted. You accuse councillors

1677
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,040
of planting citizens going back

1678
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,040
to the suburban article in

1679
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,040
January. Accusations without any

1680
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,040
real proof. Hearsay is not

1681
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,040
proof. I would like to have

1682
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,000
something in writing from you to

1683
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000
backup your accusations about

1684
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,000
me. I like things in writing.

1685
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,000
And Mr. Tremblay knows that now.

1686
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Put it in writing!

1687
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,000
>> Is that your question, Miss

1688
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Weaver? Is there a question and

1689
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,000
there? Or you just hurdling an

1690
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,000
accusation? I'm just wondering

1691
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
if there is a question.

1692
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000
>> That is not an accusation.

1693
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,000
That is a statement.

1694
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,000
>> How is that an accusation?

1695
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,000
>> I responded politely and

1696
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,000
concisely last meeting. You had

1697
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,000
information that was internal.

1698
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,000
And therefore, the only way you

1699
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,000
got that internal information

1700
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,000
was how, Miss Weaver? I pointed

1701
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,000
out, same with the email with

1702
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,000
Mr. Kilpatrick.

1703
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,000
>> I want proof! Proof in

1704
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,000
writing!

1705
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,000
>> There is no necessary proof

1706
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,000
in writing. We are in a council

1707
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,000
meeting. Miss Weaver, I am

1708
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,000
answering quite clearly. I

1709
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,000
referred to you as a --

1710
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
>> You are accusing me!

1711
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,060
>> Ms. Weaver, you did it, it

1712
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:03,060
was in a council meeting, it is

1713
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:06,060
on record. You spoke to internal

1714
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:07,060
knowledge at a meeting about

1715
01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:09,060
what was said and a caucus

1716
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:12,060
meeting. You had that

1717
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:13,060
information. And I pointed that

1718
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:15,060
out to you. Now the only thing

1719
01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:18,060
that I said, Miss Weaver -- Miss

1720
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:20,060
Weaver, Miss Weaver, this is --

1721
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:23,060
Miss Weaver, this is not a

1722
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:26,060
debate. It is not right to hurl,

1723
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:28,060
you don't control this

1724
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:29,060
discussion, Miss Weaver. I am

1725
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:31,060
telling you clearly and

1726
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:34,060
concisely. I am the chair, and I

1727
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:36,060
can actually shut this down at

1728
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:37,060
anytime I would like. And I will

1729
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:39,060
tell you right now, I would like

1730
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:41,060
to ask everybody to refer to

1731
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:43,060
last council meeting, the

1732
01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:44,060
response to Miss Weaver was

1733
01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:46,060
concise, and exactly true, and

1734
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:47,060
there was nothing illegitimate

1735
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:49,060
or true about it. Please review

1736
01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:51,060
it, I responded to you quite

1737
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:54,060
clearly about her knowledge

1738
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:55,060
regarding a newspaper and

1739
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:57,060
funding of a newspaper and an

1740
01:06:57,060 --> 01:06:59,060
internal caucus discussion. She

1741
01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:01,020
somehow knew about it. How did

1742
01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:02,020
she know about that? I pointed

1743
01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:06,020
it out to her. It was her own --

1744
01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:09,020
madam, we have answered. You

1745
01:07:09,020 --> 01:07:10,020
asked and answered that. That

1746
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:12,020
has been answered last council

1747
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:13,020
meeting. Thank you Miss Weaver.

1748
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:15,020
>> Thank you, I have all the

1749
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:19,020
access to information. 2021 to

1750
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:20,020
2022 --

1751
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,020
>> Thank you very much, like Mr.

1752
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:23,020
Kilpatrick, we already discussed

1753
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:24,020
this issue, okay?

1754
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:26,020
>> So you can't write a letter?

1755
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:28,020
>> Miss Weaver, I've answered

1756
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:29,020
your question.

1757
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:31,020
>> I would really like to have

1758
01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:32,020
proof, though.

1759
01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:33,020
>> It is already on record. It

1760
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:34,020
is taped and filmed and

1761
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:36,020
everybody can watch it. Thank

1762
01:07:36,020 --> 01:07:38,020
you Miss Weaver. Thank you Miss

1763
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:40,020
Weaver. I refer all these

1764
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:41,020
citizens -- Miss Weaver, excuse

1765
01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:43,020
me, I am going to actually ask

1766
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:45,020
you -- thank you very much.

1767
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:47,020
David Johnston?

1768
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:57,020
>> Hello everyone. I was out of

1769
01:07:58,020 --> 01:08:01,080
town last month, and I just saw

1770
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080
a video recording of last

1771
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,080
month's meeting, which was

1772
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,080
remarkably cordial. At the end

1773
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:15,080
of it, I was surprised and

1774
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,080
heartened and a bit dismayed to

1775
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,080
see the revelation that there is

1776
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,080
going to be some sort of public

1777
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,080
tender for some sort of new

1778
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,080
public consultation. Perhaps

1779
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:33,080
related to Fairview forest. As

1780
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,080
many of you know, the

1781
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,080
consultations that we've held so

1782
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,080
far have we'll avoided talking

1783
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,080
directly with some of the

1784
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,080
strongest issues of contention

1785
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:55,080
in Pointe-Claire we never had a

1786
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,080
proper discussion of Fairview

1787
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040
forest. We've never had a proper

1788
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,040
discussion of development on the

1789
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,040
Cadillac Fairview mull property.

1790
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,040
We have never had the legality

1791
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:18,040
of the new metropolitan urban

1792
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,040
plan injected into the

1793
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,040
discussion. So that you can see

1794
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,040
separation of fact from fiction

1795
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,040
as to what Pointe-Claire can, or

1796
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,040
can't do within the limits or

1797
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,040
parameters of metropolitan or

1798
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:39,040
provincial law.

1799
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,040
The last consultation was about

1800
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,040
beg paths on Saint-Jean. Of all

1801
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,040
the innocuous stuff they could

1802
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,040
come up with, we are talking

1803
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:55,040
about bike paths on Saint-Jean?

1804
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,040
Other cities in the West Island

1805
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,000
finish their consultations. They

1806
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000
had their plans in place. But it

1807
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,000
looks like we are still spinning

1808
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,000
our wheels and nothing will be

1809
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,000
resolved before the next

1810
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,000
election.

1811
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,000
I had heard that this was a

1812
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,000
possibility spending extra money

1813
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,000
beyond what we spend already. I

1814
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,000
don't know how much that has

1815
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,000
been or the consultations that

1816
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,000
we have now. But, I am hoping

1817
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,000
that it will not just be a

1818
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,000
session like the ones that we

1819
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:43,000
have had before. Where we post

1820
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,000
an invitation to a meeting and

1821
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,000
50 people show up. Many of them

1822
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,000
are repeat participants. And we

1823
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,060
have an exercise like an ancient

1824
01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:02,060
Rome where an end of an hour and

1825
01:11:02,060 --> 01:11:04,060
a half it is thumbs up to the

1826
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:07,060
gladiator or thumbs down. And

1827
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:10,060
without any proper

1828
01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:13,060
accompaniment, of information

1829
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:18,060
that will help reduce in foreign

1830
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:22,060
public opinion on the issue. As

1831
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:24,060
you know, I mentioned before one

1832
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:26,060
of the problems with municipal

1833
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:28,060
consultations is that people

1834
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:30,060
basically are not prone to want

1835
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:34,060
to participate in them. In 2017,

1836
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,060
the upset is polling firm found

1837
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:37,060
that 91% of Canadians said that

1838
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:39,060
they would never leave their

1839
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:42,060
house. To participate in this

1840
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:46,060
public consultation. Why not?

1841
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:47,060
55% said that they feel if you

1842
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:50,060
strong ways is dominate the

1843
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:52,060
discussions. And 38% said they

1844
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:55,060
feel shy about expressing my

1845
01:11:55,060 --> 01:12:00,020
opinion at a public forum. I

1846
01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:03,020
asked before if the city would

1847
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:07,020
be willing given these steaks

1848
01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:13,020
the

1849
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:17,020
-- around the REM and Fairview

1850
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:18,020
forest and the small property,

1851
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:20,020
whether we could have something

1852
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:22,020
exceptional where we could reach

1853
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:24,020
out through a direct mailing of

1854
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,020
some sort to hundreds of people

1855
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:29,020
in Pointe-Claire representing

1856
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:34,020
the population. To solicit their

1857
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:38,020
views and have them also be sent

1858
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,020
some kind of information package

1859
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:43,020
that would provide them with

1860
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:45,020
information that would help them

1861
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:47,020
come to some determination. I

1862
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:50,020
think that you said if there is

1863
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:52,020
money in the budget, we will

1864
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,020
look at that. So have we decided

1865
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:56,020
yet whether it would be another

1866
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,020
session like the other ones? Or

1867
01:12:58,020 --> 01:13:02,080
will this be an exceptional

1868
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,080
consultation given the

1869
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,080
exceptional nature --

1870
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,080
>> What is the Fairview forest

1871
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,080
one. Good question, Fairview

1872
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,080
forest one, the problem we had

1873
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,080
with the Fairview forest one was

1874
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,080
the existing consultant did not

1875
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,080
come to tender as quickly as we

1876
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080
would've liked for that session

1877
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,080
that had to be the gap that had

1878
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,080
to be filled. So it how to go to

1879
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,080
tender to get other consultants

1880
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,080
to bid to conduct that session.

1881
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,080
That is what happened with that

1882
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,080
one. It would be conducted, I

1883
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,080
suspect, in the same manner as

1884
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,080
the previous ones.

1885
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,080
>> Sorry to hear that.

1886
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,080
>> Mr. Johnson, if he would stop

1887
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,080
intervening while I am speaking,

1888
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,080
I would like to say from what

1889
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,080
I've heard from a lot of the

1890
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,080
participants in the process it

1891
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
has been a positive process. My

1892
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,080
staff has told me that it has

1893
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,080
been a positive process. It has

1894
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,080
not been the same old characters

1895
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,080
every time. It has actually been

1896
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,040
different characters quite

1897
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,040
frequently. And it has been

1898
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,040
quite a successful event where a

1899
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,040
lot of these consultations have

1900
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,040
been very positive and well

1901
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,040
conducted. The citizens have

1902
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,040
come away satisfied which in the

1903
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,040
end, is the objective. And if

1904
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,040
the citizens are happy, unlike

1905
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,040
yourself, Mr. Johnson, people

1906
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,040
have the citizens that have been

1907
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,040
involved have come back and give

1908
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,040
us positive feedback. Whether

1909
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:26,040
they are being done quickly

1910
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,040
enough, no. I would much prefer

1911
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,040
this process to be a Quaker one

1912
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,040
and a vast repeatedly to

1913
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,040
expedite this process. And I

1914
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,040
agree with you 100%. I wish it

1915
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,040
was done more quickly and we

1916
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,040
have been after staff to try to

1917
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,040
push the consultants to get this

1918
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,040
process along the way. As for

1919
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,040
the legitimacy of the process,

1920
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,040
and whether it works, very

1921
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,040
successful process was conducted

1922
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,040
in Kirkland where they did not

1923
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,040
do any direct mailing. They did

1924
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
appeal to the citizens and there

1925
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,000
are numerous examples of cities

1926
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,000
across North America that

1927
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,000
conduct consultations or citizen

1928
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
arrangements that have been

1929
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
quite successful. I feel you are

1930
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,000
negative and putting a negative

1931
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,000
part over the whole process. It

1932
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,000
has been a positive process. If

1933
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,000
people participate and we come

1934
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
up with a viable result that

1935
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,000
people except it is a very good

1936
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,000
process. So I do not agree with

1937
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,000
your assessment. As for the

1938
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,000
PMAD. It cannot completely alter

1939
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,000
consultations because it is a

1940
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,000
negotiable document. Where it is

1941
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,000
a proposal. It is not a final

1942
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,000
document. So you cannot allow it

1943
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,000
to subsequently alter your whole

1944
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,000
public consultation because the

1945
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,000
document itself is not final. So

1946
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,000
you don't know what the end

1947
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,000
result is going to be so it

1948
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,000
shouldn't take the result of the

1949
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,000
consultation. So that is the

1950
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,000
best answer I can give you for

1951
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000
the multitude of topics that you

1952
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
preferred to -- you have one or

1953
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,060
two more, maybe one more? A

1954
01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:03,060
potential topic of conversation?

1955
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:05,060
>> I do. After the fourth

1956
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:07,060
consultation in the city

1957
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:08,060
documents, there was talk of

1958
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:10,060
forming a city citizens

1959
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:14,060
committee that would help the

1960
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:18,060
city advise the City on public

1961
01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:20,060
consultations going forward, and

1962
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:22,060
wondering what happened to that

1963
01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:23,060
committee -- because I have a

1964
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:25,060
few points that I think I would

1965
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:29,060
like to propose be included in

1966
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:32,060
any discussion that we would

1967
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:34,060
have on Fairview forest. The

1968
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:35,060
main one being that I do not

1969
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:39,060
think that we can consult on it

1970
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:41,060
in isolation. I think any

1971
01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:43,060
consultation on the Fairview

1972
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:46,060
forest has to be in conjunction

1973
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:50,060
with the small property, because

1974
01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:54,060
I see them as two parts of a

1975
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:56,060
whole. Of one development

1976
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:58,060
project that has been presented

1977
01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:01,020
by Cadillac Fairview for the two

1978
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:02,020
properties. The mile property,

1979
01:17:02,020 --> 01:17:05,020
and the, so-called John Abbott

1980
01:17:05,020 --> 01:17:07,020
lands, or Fairview forest, or am

1981
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:11,020
you too. At the same time, I

1982
01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:13,020
think it's important that a

1983
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:17,020
number of other dimensions are

1984
01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:19,020
off to the debate. One would be

1985
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:24,020
a legal summary of the case in

1986
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:28,020
Québec Superior Court, the

1987
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:29,020
lawsuit, I know that sometimes

1988
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:32,020
people say, well, we can talk

1989
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:33,020
about it because it's before the

1990
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:36,020
courts, but the depositions, the

1991
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:38,020
statement and claim of Cadillac

1992
01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:41,020
Fairview is a public document.

1993
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:42,020
The statement and defensive

1994
01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:44,020
Pointe-Claire is a public

1995
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:46,020
document. It would be nice if

1996
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:49,020
the consultation on Fairview

1997
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:52,020
forest and M U one had, with it,

1998
01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:55,020
a component that summarized

1999
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:57,020
where we are in the courts. What

2000
01:17:57,020 --> 01:18:00,080
is the allegation. At the same

2001
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,080
time, there is the legality with

2002
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,080
respect to the Québec Ministry

2003
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,080
of Environment. Which, I think,

2004
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,080
is issuing a certificate of

2005
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,080
authorization to Cadillac

2006
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,080
Fairview to build. Is that true?

2007
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,080
I mean, we would want to know

2008
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,080
that. We would also want to know

2009
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,080
a couple of other things.

2010
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,080
>> You are implying things that

2011
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,080
aren't necessarily the case, Mr.

2012
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,080
Johnson. There's discussion

2013
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,080
about the wetlands, if that is

2014
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:30,080
what you are referring to. There

2015
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,080
is, as referring to your -- I

2016
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,080
like your comment about Mu1 and

2017
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,080
Mu2 and the relationship between

2018
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080
the two. I completely concur,

2019
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,080
and Mr. Johnson, that was your

2020
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,080
last one, by the way. And I

2021
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,080
completely -- Mr. Johnson, no,

2022
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,080
Mr. Johnson -- you have had

2023
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,080
ample time.

2024
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,080
>> Okay, who can I give, is it

2025
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,080
to you or to the DG, or somebody

2026
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,080
else in Pointe-Claire, a list of

2027
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,040
the five things, I have

2028
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,040
mentioned to, I guess you will

2029
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,040
not allow me to do the next

2030
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,040
three, but I think there's five

2031
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,040
things that need to be a part of

2032
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:14,040
any policy document around the

2033
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,040
future --

2034
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,040
>> If you have a document that

2035
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,040
will not dominate the whole

2036
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,040
question period I would suggest

2037
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,040
that Mr. Johnson, Mr. Johnston,

2038
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,040
Mr. Johnston. You've had your

2039
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,040
last one.

2040
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,040
>> You're not even letting me

2041
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,040
talk.

2042
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,040
>> I have let you talk. Have I

2043
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,040
not let you speak? No, no -- I

2044
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,040
have not let you -- listen, Mr.

2045
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,040
Johnson, that is hardly conduct

2046
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:47,040
becoming of a gentlemen.

2047
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,040
I will speak to Mr. Johnson's

2048
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,040
point which I think is an

2049
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,040
important one. I agree that I

2050
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,040
don't think you can divide

2051
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,000
speaking of the green space from

2052
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,000
development. I think that the

2053
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:07,000
two go intricately hand in hand.

2054
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,000
One of the things that has been

2055
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,000
ignored in all of this

2056
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,000
discussion between the Kirkland

2057
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,000
project which is the old mark

2058
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,000
frost project and the potential

2059
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
development of Mu1. What I find

2060
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:26,000
intriguing about

2061
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:32,000
--

2062
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,000
what I find is interesting about

2063
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,000
the entire proposals pertaining

2064
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000
to the large developments is

2065
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,000
instead of creating an

2066
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
artificial green space, which

2067
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,000
some of them proposed to do,

2068
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,000
where they plant trees and

2069
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000
cement boxes, where trees are

2070
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
not any real environment, a real

2071
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,000
ecological environment, and will

2072
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,000
die in a ten or 15-year

2073
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,000
timeframe, it is better to keep

2074
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,060
natural green space, which is

2075
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:02,060
always preferable instead of

2076
01:21:02,060 --> 01:21:05,060
making a small temporary one. I

2077
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:07,060
would wait prefer these

2078
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:11,060
developments to go up, Mu1, and

2079
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:13,060
the Cadillac Fairview, and they

2080
01:21:13,060 --> 01:21:15,060
already have a perfect, natural

2081
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:16,060
green space to service that

2082
01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:18,060
extensive development. Those two

2083
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:19,060
extensive developments. It is

2084
01:21:19,060 --> 01:21:21,060
called the Fairview forest. And

2085
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,060
it is a natural green space

2086
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:24,060
already sitting there that does

2087
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:26,060
not need to be touched, it will

2088
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:29,060
service to extremely large

2089
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:31,060
development projects. So,

2090
01:21:31,060 --> 01:21:32,060
there's absolutely no need to

2091
01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:35,060
touch that, and yes, we should

2092
01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:36,060
speak about that forest in

2093
01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:38,060
conjunction with development.

2094
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:39,060
Mr. Johnston is completely

2095
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:44,060
correct. And they have,,

2096
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:47,060
according to plans, anyone does

2097
01:21:47,060 --> 01:21:48,060
get developed, we have a natural

2098
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:51,060
green space that is existing, it

2099
01:21:51,060 --> 01:21:53,060
costs nothing, and it will make

2100
01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:54,060
everybody happy. I see no reason

2101
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:56,060
why that shouldn't happen, and I

2102
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:58,060
would love that to be discussed

2103
01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:00,020
in our public consultation. I

2104
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:02,020
also think of public

2105
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:05,020
consultation should refer to

2106
01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:07,020
other green spaces in

2107
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:08,020
Pointe-Claire that we have not

2108
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:10,020
discussed that should be

2109
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:12,020
discussed. Mr. Johnston is

2110
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:14,020
correct. We should, I don't

2111
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:16,020
think that the consultation is

2112
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:17,020
complete without referring to

2113
01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:18,020
those issues, unfortunately he's

2114
01:22:18,020 --> 01:22:20,020
no longer with us, but I concur

2115
01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:21,020
with a lot of what he has just

2116
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:23,020
said. Councillor Stork, did you

2117
01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:25,020
want to speak?

2118
01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:27,020
>> Yes. Just to clarify a couple

2119
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:30,020
of small things. What he is

2120
01:22:30,020 --> 01:22:32,020
referring to is not a tender. It

2121
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:34,020
will be presented to Council and

2122
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:36,020
Council will review that. So

2123
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:38,020
nothing is written in stone at

2124
01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:40,020
this point. Secondly, the

2125
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:42,020
reference, for clarity once

2126
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:44,020
again, it is in the process as

2127
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:46,020
we speak. The Amar's has asked

2128
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:48,020
us for the initial comments,

2129
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:49,020
always being proposed. We have

2130
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:52,020
sent them back. The review

2131
01:22:52,020 --> 01:22:54,020
process is ongoing. By the end

2132
01:22:54,020 --> 01:22:57,020
of 2025, we will get a new P

2133
01:22:57,020 --> 01:23:00,080
map. And the first page of the

2134
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:05,080
map, you go on line, all

2135
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,080
municipalities, all

2136
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,080
municipalities must adhere to

2137
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,080
the PMAD and integrate them into

2138
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,080
the zoning bylaws. So, once the

2139
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,080
PMAD is set, and I will link the

2140
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,080
last PMAD, it is not going to be

2141
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,080
fake minimum's. It is going to

2142
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,080
be hard at minimum some have to

2143
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,080
be respected. That information

2144
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,080
that I have interpreted. So it

2145
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,080
will be a different ball game.

2146
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,080
In reference to everything else,

2147
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,080
Fairview forest, get the time,

2148
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,080
we all care about the

2149
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,080
environment, when things are

2150
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,080
represented, we will digest them

2151
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,080
and they are in an open and

2152
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,080
transparent process.

2153
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,080
>> So the PMAD is a negotiable

2154
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,080
document, I've already spoken to

2155
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,080
the mayors of Kirkland and

2156
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,080
mayors of Dollard. And they have

2157
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,080
both been very satisfied with

2158
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:57,080
the response to their counter

2159
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:01,040
proposals. They pushed back on

2160
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,040
the height and density

2161
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,040
requirements and the PMAD has

2162
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,040
actually been lowered. Other

2163
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,040
cities have actually negotiated

2164
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,040
and lowered the initial

2165
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,040
specifications of the PMAD. So

2166
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,040
it is an ongoing process. So, my

2167
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,040
point with Mr. Johnson was, it

2168
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,040
is not cast in stone. So, it

2169
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:23,040
should not have any determining

2170
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,040
bearing on our consultation.

2171
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,040
Because it is not a firm

2172
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,040
document. We cannot predict the

2173
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,040
future or what the PMAD will

2174
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,040
come out and say. So we cannot

2175
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,040
be arranging our whole urban

2176
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,040
planning based on something that

2177
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,040
is still not official. It is not

2178
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,040
in place. So, Andre climate?

2179
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,040
- Bonjour. J'habite au huit golf

2180
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,040
Pointe-Claire. Je vais vous

2181
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,040
parler de mon voisin immédiat,

2182
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,000
qui est la six. La maison est en

2183
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,000
vente ça fait plus d'1 an. Là,

2184
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,000
présentement, il y a un nouveau

2185
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,000
propriétaire qui a fait une

2186
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,000
demande d'urbanisme pour changer

2187
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,000
les statuts de propriété ou pour

2188
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,000
faire une maison dotée. Est-ce

2189
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,000
que vous êtes au courant de ça?

2190
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
- Oui, Harper. Mais je pense que

2191
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,000
je ne suis pas permis de parler

2192
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,000
au sujet de ça, parce que c'est

2193
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,000
encore dans le CCU. Ce n'est pas

2194
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,000
officiel.

2195
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,000
- Sur la grue Rudolph.

2196
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:37,000
- Quelle adresse?

2197
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,000
- 6, le golf.

2198
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,000
- Non, on n'est pas permis. Mais

2199
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,000
je connais bien. C'est l'ancien

2200
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,000
édifice de la famille

2201
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,000
(---)

2202
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,000
. Oui, on n'est pas permis.

2203
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,000
C'est encore en train d'être

2204
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,000
décidé.

2205
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
- Juste comme voisins immédiats,

2206
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000
je suis au courant de la

2207
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,000
demande, puis disons que je suis

2208
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,000
un peu inquiet. J'aimerais ça

2209
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,000
savoir exactement. J'espère que

2210
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,060
je vais le savoir assez vite.

2211
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:02,060
Parce que s'il y a des

2212
01:26:02,060 --> 01:26:03,060
changements de statuts demandés,

2213
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:05,060
je pense que les voisins

2214
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:07,060
immédiats devraient être

2215
01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:08,060
avisées, parce que c'est une rue

2216
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:10,060
résidentielle. C'est une maison

2217
01:26:10,060 --> 01:26:11,060
résidentielle.

2218
01:26:11,060 --> 01:26:12,060
- Absolument.

2219
01:26:12,060 --> 01:26:14,060
- Est-ce que vous avez une idée

2220
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:15,060
quand est-ce qu'on va être

2221
01:26:15,060 --> 01:26:16,060
avisé?

2222
01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:19,060
- Pas exactement. Ça dépend du

2223
01:26:19,060 --> 01:26:21,060
prochain CCU, de la prochaine

2224
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:23,060
réunion. Peut-être une couple de

2225
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:26,060
mois. Je ne suis pas certain.

2226
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:27,060
- Je ne voudrais pas me

2227
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,060
retrouver devant un fait

2228
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:29,060
accompli.

2229
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:31,060
- Non. Ce n'est jamais le cas.

2230
01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:32,060
- S'il y a des changements,

2231
01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:34,060
est-ce qu'il va y avoir des

2232
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:35,060
avis?

2233
01:26:35,060 --> 01:26:36,060
- Le processus n'est pas comme

2234
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:39,060
ça. Il y aura une possibilité de

2235
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:41,060
parler à ce sujet, d'exprimer

2236
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:42,060
votre opinion si vous êtes

2237
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:43,060
contre le projet opposer.

2238
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:44,060
- Est-ce qu'il va y avoir des

2239
01:26:44,060 --> 01:26:49,060
avis? O.K.. Mon autre question,

2240
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:51,060
c'est, le pouvoir de la ville de

2241
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:52,060
protection des arbres, c'est

2242
01:26:52,060 --> 01:26:56,060
bien important. Qu'est-ce que la

2243
01:26:56,060 --> 01:26:57,060
Ville va faire pour protéger les

2244
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:58,060
arbres des castors sur le bord

2245
01:26:58,060 --> 01:26:59,060
de l'eau?

2246
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:01,020
(rires)

2247
01:27:01,020 --> 01:27:03,020
- Parce que, là, depuis 1 an et

2248
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:07,020
demi ou 2 ans, il y a beaucoup

2249
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:08,020
d'arbres

2250
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:09,020
(inaudible)

2251
01:27:09,020 --> 01:27:10,020
.

2252
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:11,020
- Le Bordeleau, c'est la

2253
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:12,020
responsabilité du gouvernement

2254
01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:16,020
fédéral. Juste devant l'eau, le

2255
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:17,020
gouvernement fédéral. Les

2256
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:19,020
arbres, oui, c'est vrai. Bonne

2257
01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:22,020
question. Je n'ai aucune idée.

2258
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:24,020
Do we have a beaver policy

2259
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:26,020
regarding protection of our

2260
01:27:26,020 --> 01:27:27,020
shoreline? It's a very

2261
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:28,020
interesting question.

2262
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:30,020
- Non, on en a pas. On est au

2263
01:27:30,020 --> 01:27:31,020
courant de la problématique de

2264
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:32,020
castor. Malheureusement, il n'y

2265
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:33,020
a pas beaucoup de choses qu'on

2266
01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:34,020
peut faire rapport les trappes

2267
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:36,020
et quand on arrive à le faire.

2268
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:38,020
Vous savez qu'on ne peut pas

2269
01:27:38,020 --> 01:27:39,020
intervenir en bande riveraine de

2270
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:41,020
toute façon. On a besoin

2271
01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:42,020
d'autorisations

2272
01:27:42,020 --> 01:27:43,020
gouvernementales. Mais soyez

2273
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:45,020
rassurés qu'on est au courant de

2274
01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:48,020
nos petites bêtes qui se

2275
01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:49,020
promènent sur nos rives.

2276
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:50,020
- Ce n'est pas trop rassurant,

2277
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:51,020
parce que depuis 1 an et demi,

2278
01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:52,020
il n'y a pas grand-chose qui a

2279
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:54,020
été fait. Il y a beaucoup

2280
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:55,020
d'arbres qui ont été coupés, et

2281
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:56,020
pas juste des petits non plus.

2282
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:59,020
- C'est intéressant. Je ne suis

2283
01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:00,080
pas spécialiste moi-même, mais

2284
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,080
je pense que les castors sont

2285
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,080
protégés aussi

2286
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,080
(---)

2287
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,080
.

2288
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,080
- Vous n'êtes pas obligé de les

2289
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,080
tuer. Ils peuvent être

2290
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,080
relocalisés ou protégés d'une

2291
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,080
autre manière.

2292
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,080
- Peut-être. Il y aura des

2293
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,080
solutions. Je ne sais pas

2294
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,080
exactement qu'est-ce qu'on peut

2295
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080
faire, mais je peux faire mes

2296
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,080
recherches. Je peux déterminer

2297
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,080
ça. C'est intéressant. Merci,

2298
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,080
Monsieur.

2299
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,080
- Merci. Did I say that right,

2300
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:29,080
Jeremy? Jeremy -- Canada.

2301
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,080
Danielle month at the?

2302
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,080
(inaudible)

2303
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:40,080
- Daniel Montpetit.

2304
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,080
- Bonsoir, conseillères et

2305
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,080
conseillers. Je suis déçu pas

2306
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,080
mal de l'envergure, de la

2307
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,080
tournure des questions, vous

2308
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,080
engueule, et tout ça. On est

2309
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,080
plus à la petite école. Si vous

2310
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,080
ne vous aimez pas, c'est bien

2311
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,080
beau. Vous ferez ça dans la

2312
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,080
chambre en arrière. Nous autres,

2313
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,080
on n'a pas besoin d'entendre vos

2314
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:00,040
commentaires, parce que c'est

2315
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,040
vraiment

2316
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,040
(---)

2317
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,040
et ce n'est pas le fun,

2318
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,040
premièrement. Deuxièmement, moi,

2319
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,040
je viens ici pour les personnes

2320
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:06,040
âgées. Je le sais que la Ville

2321
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,040
de Pointe-Claire en fait

2322
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,040
beaucoup pour les personnes

2323
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,040
âgées. C'est une belle job

2324
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,040
qu'ils font. Je suis bien

2325
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,040
d'accord. Mais on appelle les

2326
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,040
personnes âgées une fois par

2327
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,040
semaine pour jaser, nous tenir

2328
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,040
au courant, tout ça. Mais quand

2329
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,040
on appelle et ils ne répondent

2330
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,040
pas, pourquoi on n'envoie pas

2331
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,040
quelqu'un regarder tout de suite

2332
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,040
au lieu d'attendre?

2333
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,040
- On envoie.

2334
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,040
- Non, on appelle le lendemain.

2335
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,040
Après, on envoie.

2336
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,040
- Est-ce que c'est vrai, Madame

2337
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:32,040
Verdon?

2338
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:33,040
- Bien oui, bien oui. Je ne

2339
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,040
compte pas de menteries, moi.

2340
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,040
- La journée après?

2341
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,040
- Oui. On appelle la journée

2342
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,040
même. S'ils ne répondent pas, on

2343
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,040
attend au lendemain. Là, on va

2344
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,040
les rappeler. Je sais que ça

2345
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,040
peut arriver qu'on ne l'appelle

2346
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,040
pas aussi, mais qu'on appelle la

2347
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040
journée et on appelle le

2348
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,040
lendemain, on a appelé, envoyer

2349
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,040
quelqu'un. Parce que peut-être

2350
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,040
qu'il est arrivé quelque chose.

2351
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,040
- On avait fait ça. Le

2352
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,040
verglas...

2353
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,040
- Peut-être avec le verglas dans

2354
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,040
le temps.

2355
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,040
- Dans le verglas, on a fait ça.

2356
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,000
- Ça devrait continuer tout le

2357
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,000
temps. Ce serait une bonne

2358
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,000
affaire. Je vais là moi aussi

2359
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,000
bientôt et j'aimerais

2360
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,000
(inaudible)

2361
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,000
.

2362
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,000
- Je comprends.

2363
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,000
- Merci beaucoup. C'était tout.

2364
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:12,000
- Merci. Non, c'est vrai. We

2365
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,000
actually have been trying to

2366
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,000
compile, Mr. Daniel Montpetit,

2367
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,000
we've been trying to compile a

2368
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,000
list of citizens who lived alone

2369
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,000
and houses. Because you can get

2370
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,000
to seniors homes and help them,

2371
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,000
but the worrisome ones are the

2372
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,000
ones who are in their homes. And

2373
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,000
those are the ones we have to

2374
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,000
follow up on. And we've actually

2375
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:40,000
been trying to compile a list,

2376
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,000
the colleagues have been in

2377
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,000
touch with me on that one, and

2378
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,000
we're trying to compile a list

2379
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,000
of seniors living in homes,

2380
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,000
because they are the ones that

2381
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,000
can fall through the cracks. So

2382
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,000
you are absolutely right. And we

2383
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,000
are aware that. And public

2384
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,000
security actually, it's where a

2385
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,000
lot of them are. But point

2386
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,060
taken, point well taken.

2387
01:31:01,060 --> 01:31:02,060
>> My neighbour --

2388
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:05,060
[Inaudible]

2389
01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:07,060
Not old enough yet.

2390
01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:11,060
- C'est quoi l'âge? Il est assez

2391
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:13,060
vieux.

2392
01:31:13,060 --> 01:31:14,060
(rires)

2393
01:31:14,060 --> 01:31:17,060
Il est assez vieux, je pense.

2394
01:31:17,060 --> 01:31:22,060
Jérémy Lucien. Bonjour, tout le

2395
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:25,060
monde. Je vais vous demander

2396
01:31:25,060 --> 01:31:26,060
s'il y avait eu une mise à jour

2397
01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:27,060
par rapport à la demande de

2398
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:29,060
contrats pour la consultation.

2399
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:31,060
Si je comprends bien, ça n'a pas

2400
01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:34,060
été approuvé encore pour la

2401
01:31:34,060 --> 01:31:35,060
consultation pour les espaces

2402
01:31:35,060 --> 01:31:38,060
naturels ou la forêt Fairview.

2403
01:31:38,060 --> 01:31:39,060
Je veux juste savoir s'il y a

2404
01:31:39,060 --> 01:31:43,060
une mise à jour.

2405
01:31:43,060 --> 01:31:44,060
- Comme il a été dit un peu plus

2406
01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:46,060
tôt, c'est un projet qu'on doit

2407
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:47,060
soumettre au conseil municipal

2408
01:31:47,060 --> 01:31:49,060
dans les prochaines semaines. On

2409
01:31:49,060 --> 01:31:52,060
attendait la fin de la cinquième

2410
01:31:52,060 --> 01:31:53,060
consultation disputé avec le

2411
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:54,060
consultant puis voir la suite

2412
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,060
des choses.

2413
01:31:55,060 --> 01:31:56,060
- O.K.. Je voulais m'assurer de

2414
01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:58,060
bien comprendre. Parfait.

2415
01:31:58,060 --> 01:31:59,060
Deuxième chose que je n'avais

2416
01:31:59,060 --> 01:32:03,020
pas mentionné aujourd'hui, parce

2417
01:32:03,020 --> 01:32:04,020
qu'il y a d'autres résidents qui

2418
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:05,020
leur mentionner: il y a un gros

2419
01:32:05,020 --> 01:32:07,020
projet des développements sur le

2420
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:08,020
coin de Mail Rowe et Lake Shore.

2421
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:10,020
Je pense que, monsieur

2422
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:11,020
Bissonnette, ça va district. Il

2423
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:13,020
a des déchets partout par terre.

2424
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:14,020
Il y a du plastique rendu dans

2425
01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:16,020
l'eau, dans les arbres du

2426
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:17,020
chantier de construction. C'est

2427
01:32:17,020 --> 01:32:18,020
vraiment un gros dégât. J'allais

2428
01:32:18,020 --> 01:32:19,020
enfin vous envoyez un courriel

2429
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:21,020
par rapport à ça. Parce qu'il y

2430
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:23,020
a d'autres résidents qui en ont

2431
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,020
parlé, chez le mentionne

2432
01:32:24,020 --> 01:32:25,020
aujourd'hui. Là, c'est certain

2433
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:26,020
qu'il y en a dans l'eau. Il y a

2434
01:32:26,020 --> 01:32:27,020
du plastique et des déchets

2435
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:31,020
partout dans l'aussi. Si c'est

2436
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:34,020
possible d'aller vérifier ça ou

2437
01:32:34,020 --> 01:32:35,020
gestes, en tout cas, de faire

2438
01:32:35,020 --> 01:32:36,020
passer quelqu'un pour s'assurer

2439
01:32:36,020 --> 01:32:37,020
que les déchets ne se rendent

2440
01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:39,020
pas jusque dans l'eau, que les

2441
01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:40,020
sites de construction sont bien

2442
01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:41,020
nettoyés comme il faut pour ne

2443
01:32:41,020 --> 01:32:42,020
pas qu'on ait de problème. S'il

2444
01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:44,020
y a des gens qui jettent des

2445
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:46,020
déchets par terre n'importe où,

2446
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:49,020
ça, c'est une amende

2447
01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:50,020
directement. Il me semble que

2448
01:32:50,020 --> 01:32:52,020
c'est quasiment la même affaire.

2449
01:32:52,020 --> 01:32:53,020
Donc je me demandais si ce

2450
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:56,020
serait possible de regarder ça.

2451
01:32:56,020 --> 01:32:58,020
- Oui, c'est possible. Merci

2452
01:32:58,020 --> 01:33:01,080
pour votre intervention. Je suis

2453
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,080
d'accord. Je n'aime pas ça du

2454
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,080
tout, du tout. On peut vérifier

2455
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,080
ça. On peut envoyer des

2456
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,080
inspecteurs souvent pour

2457
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,080
vérifier ça. Je m'excuse. I'm

2458
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,080
sorry for that.

2459
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,080
Ce n'est pas bon. >> I've just

2460
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,080
been seeing it all winter, and I

2461
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,080
keep meeting to send an email.

2462
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,080
And the residents brought it up

2463
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,080
today. So I just thought I would

2464
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,080
mention it, the plastic is

2465
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,080
everywhere. It's hanging in the

2466
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,080
trees and the bushes.

2467
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,080
- Ça me frustre. It's been an

2468
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,080
issue for a year now.

2469
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,080
Okay, thank you.

2470
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:35,080
- Merci beaucoup. O.K.. >>

2471
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,080
Coming that Lewandowski. Camilla

2472
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,080
(---)

2473
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:43,080
. Okay, you're done?

2474
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:48,080
>> Alicia right.

2475
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,080
- Bonsoir, tout le monde.

2476
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,080
>> Good evening everyone, to our

2477
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,080
Mayor and our council members,

2478
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,080
and the citizens of

2479
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,040
Pointe-Claire. So I am from --

2480
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,040
apostolic church. Thank you

2481
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,040
Council woman for the note of

2482
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,040
thanks. It's our endeavour to

2483
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,040
work in the Pointe-Claire

2484
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,040
community and beyond the

2485
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,040
boundaries of Pointe-Claire

2486
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:13,040
because we see there are issues

2487
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,040
and ways we can support our

2488
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,040
citizens. One of the things our

2489
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,040
church is currently expanding

2490
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,040
through its bountiful blessings

2491
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,040
arm is we have expanded our

2492
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,040
feeding mission, our food

2493
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,040
mission. Bénédiction abondantes.

2494
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,040
So it was previously we would go

2495
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:29,040
downtown and feed homeless men

2496
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,040
and women once a month, because

2497
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,040
previously, we were not in the

2498
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,040
Pointe-Claire area. But we've

2499
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,040
expanded now that we've moved to

2500
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,040
Pointe-Claire. We just recently

2501
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,040
partnered with second harvest to

2502
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,040
be able to pick up food from

2503
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,040
various organizations that are

2504
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:46,040
saying they have food that needs

2505
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,040
to be collected or else it will

2506
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,040
be thrown out. Since January, we

2507
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,040
were able to provide 361

2508
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,040
homeless persons between

2509
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,040
Pointe-Claire two downtown with

2510
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,000
food. In the month of March

2511
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,000
alone, whatever able to support

2512
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,000
30 to low income families. As

2513
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,000
well as feeding teams, her

2514
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,000
providing sandwiches, breakfast

2515
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,000
sandwiches, two teenagers in

2516
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,000
high school. What we wanted to

2517
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,000
know is how we could collaborate

2518
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,000
with the City of Pointe-Claire

2519
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,000
to further help, further expand

2520
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,000
our existing mission? Because we

2521
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,000
are well aware that food

2522
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,000
insecurity is a great issue, as

2523
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,000
we know. Oftentimes the thought

2524
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,000
is in the West Island this is

2525
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,000
not the case, but it is the

2526
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,000
case. We are seeing the numbers.

2527
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000
So we want to know if there's a

2528
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:34,000
possibility we can clap rate

2529
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,000
with the city to expand. One of

2530
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,000
the things we are trying to do

2531
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,000
right now, and I was actually

2532
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,000
here earlier today, is we are

2533
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,000
trying to rebuild what was the

2534
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,000
previous kitchen in our church.

2535
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,000
So we wanted to try and meet the

2536
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,000
needs, we wanted to build a

2537
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,000
commercial kitchen. It's proven

2538
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,000
to be extremely difficult and

2539
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,000
extremely difficult with the age

2540
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
of our building. We have been

2541
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,000
working on this since January.

2542
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,060
We were able to obtain the plans

2543
01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:03,060
for the church, which our

2544
01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:04,060
architect is having a hard time

2545
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:05,060
being able to see, because it's

2546
01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:08,060
in a very old document. But we

2547
01:36:08,060 --> 01:36:10,060
wanted to know what we can do to

2548
01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:11,060
work together to support our

2549
01:36:11,060 --> 01:36:13,060
community, especially our

2550
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:14,060
seniors, because we recognize

2551
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:17,060
they are often -- there in this

2552
01:36:17,060 --> 01:36:20,060
catchment as well.

2553
01:36:20,060 --> 01:36:22,060
>> Well, just right off the bat,

2554
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:24,060
I can think of a few

2555
01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:25,060
organizations that we would work

2556
01:36:25,060 --> 01:36:27,060
with that are already doing

2557
01:36:27,060 --> 01:36:28,060
exactly that, that you would

2558
01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:31,060
want to link up with. I would do

2559
01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:32,060
the -- of the southwest of the

2560
01:36:32,060 --> 01:36:33,060
island would be one that I

2561
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:34,060
recommend. Table de quartier sud

2562
01:36:34,060 --> 01:36:38,060
de l'ouest de l'île. Crever de

2563
01:36:38,060 --> 01:36:39,060
pain -- Would be another. The

2564
01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:42,060
West Island Mission is a good

2565
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:45,060
organization. There are others.

2566
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:47,060
There are other organizations

2567
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:49,060
that are already on the ground

2568
01:36:49,060 --> 01:36:50,060
doing that, and it's a great and

2569
01:36:50,060 --> 01:36:52,060
issued if. You can link up with

2570
01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:55,060
them. Or you can somehow

2571
01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:57,060
negotiate or work out something

2572
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:58,060
overtime as well. But these are

2573
01:36:58,060 --> 01:37:00,020
established organizations who

2574
01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:01,020
you may want to link up with and

2575
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:02,020
work with.

2576
01:37:02,020 --> 01:37:05,020
>> Okay, and we are very willing

2577
01:37:05,020 --> 01:37:07,020
to collaborate on any levels,

2578
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:09,020
but we also recognize that those

2579
01:37:09,020 --> 01:37:12,020
same organizations are also

2580
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:14,020
struggling in some ways, whether

2581
01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:17,020
it be a reduction in donations,

2582
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:18,020
I know for the West Island

2583
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:19,020
Mission, when I last checked

2584
01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:20,020
their website, they were still

2585
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:21,020
asking for donations to help

2586
01:37:21,020 --> 01:37:23,020
fill their shelves because

2587
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:26,020
donations are low. So that's why

2588
01:37:26,020 --> 01:37:27,020
I am asking, how can we partner

2589
01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:29,020
with the City, if there are

2590
01:37:29,020 --> 01:37:31,020
funds available or other means

2591
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:32,020
we are not aware of so that we

2592
01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:35,020
can all work towards this

2593
01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:37,020
important need.

2594
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:38,020
>> Well, organizations

2595
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:41,020
frequently right to the city and

2596
01:37:41,020 --> 01:37:43,020
consult and see if they are

2597
01:37:43,020 --> 01:37:45,020
available for subsided station

2598
01:37:45,020 --> 01:37:46,020
from the City. You can certainly

2599
01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:48,020
do that. You can certainly

2600
01:37:48,020 --> 01:37:49,020
apply.

2601
01:37:49,020 --> 01:37:51,020
>> Thank you. And my second

2602
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:52,020
question, I was really happy to

2603
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:54,020
hear there is a process by which

2604
01:37:54,020 --> 01:37:56,020
seniors are contacted once a

2605
01:37:56,020 --> 01:37:58,020
week. I wanted to know who is

2606
01:37:58,020 --> 01:38:00,080
contacting the seniors, is it

2607
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,080
the local CLSC's? How does it

2608
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,080
work, and are there more

2609
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,080
volunteers needed maybe to amp

2610
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,080
up the number of calls? I know

2611
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,080
we have our youth that was maybe

2612
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:10,080
willing to participate in that,

2613
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,080
because again, there are so many

2614
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,080
seniors that are on their own.

2615
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,080
And it's even to go for a visit

2616
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,080
once a week, we've had a senior

2617
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,080
who came to our pancake

2618
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,080
breakfast in February, she came,

2619
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,080
she called us on a Sunday

2620
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,080
morning and came down because

2621
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,080
she was in terrible distress. So

2622
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,080
I realized that there is a need

2623
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,080
maybe for more support. So I

2624
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,080
just wanted to know who is in

2625
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:33,080
charge of those phone calls and

2626
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,080
if there's a way that we can

2627
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,080
help.

2628
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,080
>> Well, I will just say that we

2629
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,080
do have internally we have aid

2630
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,080
for seniors, which is a program

2631
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,080
specifically designed to look

2632
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,080
after the special needs of

2633
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,080
seniors. And it's quite an

2634
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,080
effective program. You could

2635
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,080
contact them. There is nothing

2636
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,080
stopping you from compiling your

2637
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,080
own list as well. I know we do

2638
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,080
it as a city. I believe we have

2639
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,080
a phone list of seniors that we

2640
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:00,040
follow up on.

2641
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,040
>> Yes, they have to register

2642
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,040
through the city. It's city

2643
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:08,040
employees that -- aid for

2644
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,040
senior.

2645
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:11,040
- Donc il faut, eux, qu'ils

2646
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,040
s'enrichissent, qu'ils

2647
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,040
s'inscrivent pour être appelés.

2648
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,040
Donc s'ils ne connaissent pas

2649
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:17,040
l'information, ça veut dire

2650
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,040
qu'ils sont inaccessibles.

2651
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,040
- C'est ça, exactement. Pour

2652
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:22,040
faire les listes, je vous

2653
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:23,040
conseillerais peut-être

2654
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
d'appeler demain à la Ville et

2655
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,040
de demander à parler avec le

2656
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,040
département, justement, de

2657
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,040
l'aide au troisième âge, qui

2658
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,040
vont pouvoir vous répondre et

2659
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,040
faire les liens nécessaires vers

2660
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,040
votre organisation aussi pour

2661
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,040
tous les programmes que nous

2662
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:37,040
avons.

2663
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,040
- Parfait, merci beaucoup.

2664
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,040
- Merci. Il reste une. We're

2665
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,040
running out of time.

2666
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,040
>> Leslie --

2667
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,040
>> Seven minutes left, Mister

2668
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:48,040
Mayor.

2669
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,040
- Merci, Madame. >> Thank you,

2670
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,040
Madam.

2671
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:58,040
>> Thank you, Pat. Nice, thanks.

2672
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,000
[Laughter]

2673
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:07,000
I just am trying to get a bit

2674
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:10,000
more clarification in regards

2675
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:14,000
to, as we know, the governments

2676
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,000
are subsidizing elderly home

2677
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,000
care, private further own -- for

2678
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,000
their own private use of their

2679
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,000
own residences. And I am

2680
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,000
wondering if the regulations on

2681
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,000
bylaws are the regulation itself

2682
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,000
about having someone living in

2683
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:38,000
one's residence accepted because

2684
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,000
I think quite a few years ago,

2685
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,000
I've read in some of our bylaws

2686
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,000
here that there was a

2687
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:50,000
restriction in regards to the

2688
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,000
qualification or the type of

2689
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,000
person that would be allowed to

2690
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:59,000
be a resident in the elders home

2691
01:41:02,060 --> 01:41:05,060
privately to provide 24/7 care

2692
01:41:05,060 --> 01:41:10,060
for an elder. And the bylaw

2693
01:41:11,060 --> 01:41:12,060
stipulated that it had to be a

2694
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,060
family member. Is there any

2695
01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:16,060
exemption possible for that to

2696
01:41:16,060 --> 01:41:21,060
have someone hired or not by the

2697
01:41:21,060 --> 01:41:25,060
elder to be able to share, let's

2698
01:41:25,060 --> 01:41:29,060
say, the home occupancy in one

2699
01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:33,060
area of residence to provide the

2700
01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:37,060
service to the elder without any

2701
01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:40,060
hindering or any problems?

2702
01:41:40,060 --> 01:41:43,060
>> Offhand, I'm surprised. I

2703
01:41:43,060 --> 01:41:44,060
don't believe that's true. I

2704
01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:47,060
don't know if actually -- I'm

2705
01:41:47,060 --> 01:41:51,060
not one hunted percent

2706
01:41:51,060 --> 01:41:52,060
confident. I find -- I'm pretty

2707
01:41:52,060 --> 01:41:54,060
sure that's a private matter.

2708
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:56,060
And you can hire caregivers,

2709
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:59,060
elder citizens can hire private

2710
01:41:59,060 --> 01:42:00,020
caregivers.

2711
01:42:00,020 --> 01:42:01,020
>> Okay.

2712
01:42:01,020 --> 01:42:02,020
>> I'm pretty sure that the

2713
01:42:02,020 --> 01:42:03,020
freedom to do that in their own

2714
01:42:03,020 --> 01:42:04,020
homes. I would be surprised if

2715
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:05,020
the city was intervening on

2716
01:42:05,020 --> 01:42:08,020
that. I don't know for sure, but

2717
01:42:08,020 --> 01:42:10,020
it comes across as a surprise to

2718
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:12,020
me. Do either of you know

2719
01:42:12,020 --> 01:42:16,020
anything about that? No. So I'm

2720
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:19,020
not sure that's correct, sir. I

2721
01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:21,020
don't think so.

2722
01:42:21,020 --> 01:42:23,020
>> I thought I had seen that in

2723
01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:25,020
some of the bios, but maybe it

2724
01:42:25,020 --> 01:42:28,020
was retrieved or changed with an

2725
01:42:28,020 --> 01:42:30,020
amendment or something. And then

2726
01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:33,020
it doesn't appear anymore. So I

2727
01:42:33,020 --> 01:42:34,020
just wanted to make sure that

2728
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:37,020
it's okay, let's say, for me in

2729
01:42:37,020 --> 01:42:41,020
my own private property to hire

2730
01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:45,020
someone to be there 24/7 for me.

2731
01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:48,020
And having no problems in regard

2732
01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:51,020
to addressing remuneration that

2733
01:42:51,020 --> 01:42:55,020
person in parts of the residence

2734
01:42:55,020 --> 01:42:57,020
occupancy that might allow for

2735
01:42:57,020 --> 01:42:59,020
that person to have in order to

2736
01:42:59,020 --> 01:43:00,080
serve me.

2737
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,080
>> The only obstacle I can

2738
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,080
possibly see is that the person

2739
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,080
is not a legal resident, or that

2740
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,080
there may be some kind of law.

2741
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,080
And I'm not even sure that's

2742
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,080
true. I'm not even, sure I don't

2743
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,080
have the command of the law on

2744
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,080
that. But I don't think we have

2745
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:15,080
any laws in place.

2746
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,080
>> Me neither, I don't know. So

2747
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,080
if it's possible to clarify that

2748
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,080
in some way, somehow, that it's

2749
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,080
okay. Or as we are talking, now

2750
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,080
that it should be.

2751
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,080
>> We can look into that, for

2752
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:36,080
sure. Thank you, sir. Okay.

2753
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:39,080
Monsieur le Maire, juste deux

2754
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,080
secondes. Monsieur Clermont, je

2755
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,080
vous invite à venir me revoir

2756
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,080
après la rencontre. Vous en

2757
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,080
savez pas mal plus que moi, puis

2758
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,080
si vous prenez une chance de

2759
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,080
passer pour la prochaine fois

2760
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,080
que vous allez venir poser une

2761
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,080
question, vous allez passer pour

2762
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,080
une plante peut-être. Merci.

2763
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:08,040
- 5.1, je pense.

2764
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,040
- 5.1 Adoption d'un règlement

2765
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,040
modifiant le Règlement PC-2962

2766
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:11,040
décrétant les tarifs exigibles

2767
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,040
pour le financement de biens,

2768
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:14,040
services et activités offerts

2769
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,040
par la Ville de Pointe-Claire

2770
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,040
pour l'exercice financier 2024.

2771
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,040
Les modifications consistent

2772
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:20,040
notamment en l'ajout des frais

2773
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,040
de location pour des salles de

2774
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,040
Stewart rares pour les groupes

2775
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,040
communautaires qui veulent

2776
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,040
effectuer des activités de levée

2777
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:27,040
de fonds et le retrait des frais

2778
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,040
de compostage, qui est

2779
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,040
dorénavant gratuit.

2780
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:36,040
>> Do I have a mover? And a

2781
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:40,040
seconder? All in favour?

2782
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,040
- Juste un instant. Yeah, hold

2783
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:48,040
on.

2784
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:57,040
6.1, and here to the Adhere to

2785
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,000
the Federation of Canadian

2786
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,000
Municipalities'

2787
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,000
(FCM)

2788
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,000
initiative to counter the

2789
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,000
federal infrastructure funding

2790
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,000
deficit in relation to

2791
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:07,000
population growth.

2792
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:08,000
Municipalities that are members

2793
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:09,000
of the Federation of the

2794
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:10,000
Canadian Municipalities, also

2795
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:11,000
known as the FCM, are calling on

2796
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,000
the federal government increases

2797
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,000
federal assistance by setting up

2798
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,000
funds and programs to help

2799
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,000
municipalities meet the

2800
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,000
responsibilities. 6.2 Autoriser

2801
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,000
la ville de Pointe-Claire à

2802
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,000
prêter des équipements à

2803
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,000
Corbeille de pain. La liste du

2804
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:25,000
matériel de Mandela suivante:

2805
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,000
six barils, 85 conte de

2806
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,000
signalisation, 25 tables de

2807
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,000
pique-nique et huit tente.

2808
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,000
Authorize the City of

2809
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,000
Pointe-Claire to lend equipment

2810
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:34,000
to the Strangers in the Night

2811
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,000
Foundation. The list of

2812
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,000
equipment is as false, 20

2813
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,000
barricades, 40 traffic on, 40

2814
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,000
recycling, the 40 compost bin,

2815
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,000
to bag flow -- preventive

2816
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,000
elsewhere hydrate connections.

2817
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,000
- 6.4 Autoriser la participation

2818
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,000
de 8 membres du conseil au

2819
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:50,000
Festival de Blues de

2820
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,000
l'Ouest-de-l'Île devant se tenir

2821
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,000
le 30 mai 2024. Les billets sont

2822
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,000
125 dollars chacun et la vente

2823
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,000
des billets sera versé à des

2824
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:04,060
organismes à but non lucratif.

2825
01:46:05,060 --> 01:46:06,060
6.5 Consider a request for

2826
01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:07,060
revision pertaining to the

2827
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:08,060
decision of the Demolition

2828
01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:09,060
Committee regarding the

2829
01:46:09,060 --> 01:46:10,060
immovable located at 12

2830
01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:11,060
Coolbreeze Avenue. The

2831
01:46:11,060 --> 01:46:13,060
demolition committee's decision

2832
01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:15,060
was previously approved, the

2833
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:16,060
demolition and the

2834
01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:17,060
revitalization program for the

2835
01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:19,060
-- Council tonight will either

2836
01:46:19,060 --> 01:46:21,060
tonight confirm said decision or

2837
01:46:21,060 --> 01:46:25,060
make the changes.

2838
01:46:27,060 --> 01:46:28,060
- 6.6 Considérer une demande de

2839
01:46:28,060 --> 01:46:29,060
révision portant sur la décision

2840
01:46:29,060 --> 01:46:30,060
du comité de démolition visant

2841
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:31,060
l'immeuble situé au 13, avenue

2842
01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:34,060
Julien. La décision du comité

2843
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:35,060
démolition est à l'effet

2844
01:46:35,060 --> 01:46:37,060
d'approuver la démolition et de

2845
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:39,060
refuser le programme de

2846
01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:40,060
(---)

2847
01:46:40,060 --> 01:46:43,060
du sol dégagé. Alors, à l'instar

2848
01:46:43,060 --> 01:46:45,060
du point précédent, le conseil,

2849
01:46:45,060 --> 01:46:47,060
ce soir, doit maintenir la

2850
01:46:47,060 --> 01:46:49,060
décision du comité de démolition

2851
01:46:49,060 --> 01:46:51,060
vous rendre la commission que le

2852
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:52,060
comité aurait dû rendre.

2853
01:46:52,060 --> 01:46:54,060
- Alors, avant de voter, madame

2854
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:55,060
Thibault, est-ce que c'est

2855
01:46:55,060 --> 01:46:59,060
possible de parler au sujet de

2856
01:47:00,020 --> 01:47:01,020
6.1, je pense qu'on peut

2857
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:02,020
expliquer un peu.

2858
01:47:02,020 --> 01:47:04,020
- Oui, une explication a été

2859
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:07,020
donnée a 6.1.

2860
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:08,020
>> Do you want me to read it

2861
01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:09,020
again?

2862
01:47:09,020 --> 01:47:11,020
- Oui, s'il vous plaît. Plus

2863
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:12,020
lent.

2864
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:15,020
- La dernière? Oui, attendez un

2865
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:18,020
instant.

2866
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:30,020
>> I'm sorry.

2867
01:47:30,020 --> 01:47:33,020
- Non, non, je m'excuse.

2868
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,080
Sorry, I think problem with my

2869
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:13,080
computer.

2870
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,080
- Je peux essayer moi-même,

2871
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,080
Madame Thibault, si vous voulez.

2872
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:25,080
J'ai quelque chose.

2873
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,080
>> In English?

2874
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,080
- N'importe quelle langue, oui.

2875
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,080
It was the last, where was, it

2876
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,080
the Canadian community building

2877
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,080
fund, which was founded as the

2878
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,080
federal gas tax fund, provide

2879
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,080
more than two billion in annual

2880
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,080
capital funding to

2881
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:46,080
municipalities through

2882
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:50,080
predictable allocation mechanism

2883
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:53,080
-- all sides use the CCBF to

2884
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,080
deliver direct results for

2885
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,080
Canadians by building and

2886
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,080
removing critical car public

2887
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,040
infrastructure, including water

2888
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,040
-- public transit in communities

2889
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,040
and cultural and recreational

2890
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:06,040
facilities.

2891
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,040
>> This is the last paragraph,

2892
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:09,040
I'm sorry, in the resolution

2893
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:14,040
that we will send to the federal

2894
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,040
government. And several

2895
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,040
municipalities, members of FCM,

2896
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,040
will do as well.

2897
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:23,040
- O.K., Merci beaucoup. Alors,

2898
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:28,040
6.6, il faut que j'explique.

2899
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,040
>> 6.5, it is, just maybe for

2900
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:39,040
the public and people at home,

2901
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:40,040
what is the conclusion of

2902
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,040
Council regarding this decision

2903
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,040
from the motion Committee? So is

2904
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,040
it to confirm or overturned? And

2905
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,040
the same applies to 6.6, please.

2906
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:52,040
>> Okay, I can speak to 6.6 for

2907
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:56,040
13 Julien, where there was the

2908
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,040
demolition was approved, the

2909
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,000
initial demolition was approved.

2910
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,000
But the replacement project was

2911
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,000
not approved and sent back to

2912
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,000
the CCU or the pack committee,

2913
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,000
which then returned it back to

2914
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,000
Council. And we have, Council

2915
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,000
has approved the project. So we

2916
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,000
are voting for the approval of

2917
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:21,000
both the demolition and the --

2918
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:25,000
project in 6.6.

2919
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,000
>> And 6.5, my comprehension is

2920
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,000
that you confirmed the decision

2921
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,000
from the demolition company?

2922
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,000
>> We, did as a Council.

2923
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,000
>> Council confirmed the

2924
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,000
decision. You will vote on that

2925
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,000
confirmation, right?

2926
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:41,000
>> Yes. Okay. Pour 6,1 6,6.

2927
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:45,000
Do I have a mover? - Claude

2928
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,000
Cousineau, district un. Claude

2929
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,000
Cousineau.

2930
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:50,000
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

2931
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,000
district three.

2932
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,000
>> All in favour?

2933
01:51:01,060 --> 01:51:04,060
>> 7.1 to File the minutes of

2934
01:51:04,060 --> 01:51:05,060
the January 24, 2024, meeting of

2935
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:08,060
the Stewart Hall Advisory Board.

2936
01:51:08,060 --> 01:51:09,060
- 8.1 Adopter une Politique

2937
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:10,060
d'aide financière - soutien aux

2938
01:51:10,060 --> 01:51:12,060
associations de marchands. La

2939
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:13,060
Ville de Pointe-Claire souhaite

2940
01:51:13,060 --> 01:51:15,060
adopter une politique pour

2941
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:16,060
l'autorisation d'une aide

2942
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:17,060
financière pour le développement

2943
01:51:17,060 --> 01:51:19,060
des associations de marchands

2944
01:51:19,060 --> 01:51:21,060
pour le noyau villageois de

2945
01:51:21,060 --> 01:51:22,060
Pointe-Claire et de Valois afin

2946
01:51:22,060 --> 01:51:24,060
de soutenir des projets pour le

2947
01:51:24,060 --> 01:51:25,060
développement et la vitalité de

2948
01:51:25,060 --> 01:51:27,060
ces milieux. Les modalités de

2949
01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:28,060
demandes et des versements de

2950
01:51:28,060 --> 01:51:29,060
l'aide financière sont contenues

2951
01:51:29,060 --> 01:51:31,060
dans la politique. Le maximum

2952
01:51:31,060 --> 01:51:33,060
d'aide financière qui pourrait

2953
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:35,060
être octroyée et de 25000

2954
01:51:35,060 --> 01:51:37,060
dollars par année.

2955
01:51:37,060 --> 01:51:39,060
- Alors, pour 8.1.

2956
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:43,060
Do I have a mover? - Claude

2957
01:51:43,060 --> 01:51:46,060
Cousineau, district 1. Seconder?

2958
01:51:46,060 --> 01:51:47,060
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2959
01:51:47,060 --> 01:51:49,060
>> And I just speak briefly to a

2960
01:51:49,060 --> 01:51:51,060
point, what the merchants

2961
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:53,060
associations about Valois in

2962
01:51:53,060 --> 01:51:54,060
Pointe-Claire village will be a

2963
01:51:54,060 --> 01:51:55,060
pleased with this. Because what

2964
01:51:55,060 --> 01:51:57,060
has happened is they no longer

2965
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:00,020
have to go through a political

2966
01:52:00,020 --> 01:52:02,020
process every year. This is a

2967
01:52:02,020 --> 01:52:03,020
administrative process. They get

2968
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:05,020
to apply. There is an

2969
01:52:05,020 --> 01:52:06,020
application that they submit

2970
01:52:06,020 --> 01:52:09,020
every year for this type of

2971
01:52:09,020 --> 01:52:11,020
funding, with a maximum

2972
01:52:11,020 --> 01:52:13,020
contribution of 75% of the total

2973
01:52:13,020 --> 01:52:15,020
cost of a project, up to a

2974
01:52:15,020 --> 01:52:19,020
maximum of $25,000. This may be

2975
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:20,020
given to support projects for

2976
01:52:20,020 --> 01:52:22,020
the development and vitality of

2977
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:25,020
these villages, the commercial

2978
01:52:25,020 --> 01:52:27,020
villages. A request must be made

2979
01:52:27,020 --> 01:52:28,020
Jen -- the other general

2980
01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:29,020
management or the

2981
01:52:29,020 --> 01:52:31,020
administration. There is a form

2982
01:52:31,020 --> 01:52:33,020
to complete and will be sent to

2983
01:52:33,020 --> 01:52:34,020
applicants. It's become an

2984
01:52:34,020 --> 01:52:35,020
administrative process, not a

2985
01:52:35,020 --> 01:52:36,020
political. Once they will be

2986
01:52:36,020 --> 01:52:37,020
very happy with. That

2987
01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:38,020
>> Question.

2988
01:52:38,020 --> 01:52:39,020
>> Yes.

2989
01:52:39,020 --> 01:52:40,020
>> I'm having a bit of trouble

2990
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:41,020
understanding how there is a

2991
01:52:41,020 --> 01:52:42,020
political process.

2992
01:52:42,020 --> 01:52:44,020
>> No, not necessarily

2993
01:52:44,020 --> 01:52:45,020
political, but they felt that it

2994
01:52:45,020 --> 01:52:47,020
was not something that was a

2995
01:52:47,020 --> 01:52:50,020
yearly, annual thing. They felt

2996
01:52:50,020 --> 01:52:51,020
that it may or may not be there

2997
01:52:51,020 --> 01:52:53,020
for them. That in other words,

2998
01:52:53,020 --> 01:52:55,020
it might be there one year, it

2999
01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:57,020
might not be there, depending on

3000
01:52:57,020 --> 01:52:58,020
the mood, the prevailing mood of

3001
01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:01,080
the time, where it is actually

3002
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,080
an administrative process that

3003
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:04,080
is built in that will happen

3004
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:05,080
every year. So that's what I

3005
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:06,080
meant by that.

3006
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:07,080
>> Thank you.

3007
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:09,080
>> Just a reminder, there was a

3008
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:11,080
mover and a seconder that hadn't

3009
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,080
been voted on.

3010
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,080
>> Do I have a mover?

3011
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,080
>> You've got a mover and a

3012
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:17,080
secondary, just haven't voted.

3013
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:22,080
>> All in favour?

3014
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:29,080
>> 10.1 File the list of budget

3015
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,080
amendments and the register of

3016
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:31,080
cheques for the period of March

3017
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,080
2, 2024, to March 24, 2024.

3018
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,080
- 10.2 Autoriser le transfert de

3019
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:35,080
postes budgétaires associés à

3020
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:36,080
des postes de fonds parcs et

3021
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:37,080
terrains de jeux pour lesquels

3022
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:38,080
les projets, travaux ou achats

3023
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,080
d'équipement sont complétés ou

3024
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:40,080
annulés. Afin de combler un

3025
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,080
manque à gagner de 140000

3026
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,080
dollars dans le poste budgétaire

3027
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:47,080
du projet 24 - cette, réfection

3028
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:52,080
des équipements de jeu des parcs

3029
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,080
Lansdowne, six deux et quelques

3030
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:55,080
mène, un transfert de fonds est

3031
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,080
requis et proviendra des postes

3032
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,080
budgétaires de deux projets dont

3033
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,040
les fonds n'ont pas été

3034
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:05,040
entièrement utilisé. >> 10.3

3035
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,040
Award a contract for the supply

3036
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,040
and the delivery of clothing for

3037
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,040
managers for the year 2024, to

3038
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,040
PROMOTIONS PLUS DIVISION DE LE

3039
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,040
GROUPE D'IMPORTATION ET DE

3040
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,040
DISTRIBUTION HUGO INC., For a

3041
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:19,040
total amount of $ 21,519.35,

3042
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,040
taxes included, with two years

3043
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,040
in option.

3044
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:24,040
- 10.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

3045
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,040
un logiciel d'approbation de

3046
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:26,040
factures automatisé pour les

3047
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,040
années 2024, 2025 et 2026, à

3048
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:31,040
TOSHIBA, pour un montant total

3049
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:34,040
de 85067,70 $ taxes incluses.

3050
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:35,040
L'investissement dans le

3051
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,040
logiciel proposé pour la gestion

3052
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:37,040
des comptes fournisseurs sans

3053
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,040
papiers justifiée par les

3054
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:40,040
importantes économies de temps

3055
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,040
qu'il apportera. >> 10.5 To

3056
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:43,040
approve a change order to the

3057
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:45,040
contract entered into with

3058
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,040
MICROSOFT, for the purchase of

3059
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:48,040
Microsoft subscription licenses

3060
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,040
for the years 2022, 2023 and

3061
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,040
2024, for an amount of $ 20,000,

3062
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,040
taxes included. With their new

3063
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,040
office 365 licence, we'd like to

3064
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:59,040
add applications and features

3065
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:03,000
such as co-pilot, video, and

3066
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,000
project.

3067
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:09,000
- Pour 10,2 jusqu'à 10,5. Do I

3068
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:10,000
have a mover?

3069
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,000
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

3070
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,000
>> And second? Kelly

3071
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:15,000
Thorstad-Cullen, district three.

3072
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,000
>> All in favour?

3073
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:20,000
- 11.1 Approuver la cession du

3074
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,000
lot 6 504 495 du cadastre du

3075
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,000
Québec à des fins

3076
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,000
d'infrastructures municipales.

3077
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:26,000
La Ville a exigée comme

3078
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,000
condition à la construction du

3079
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,000
projet avis va condos situé au

3080
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,000
365 Brunswick le transfert à

3081
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,000
titre gratuit d'une bande de

3082
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,000
terrains situés en face de cette

3083
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,000
adresse connu aujourd'hui sous

3084
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:40,000
le lot 6 504 495 du cadastre du

3085
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,000
Québec. Le but de la session et

3086
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,000
de pouvoir réaliser

3087
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:44,000
d'éventuelles travaux

3088
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,000
d'infrastructures municipales, à

3089
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,000
savoir une ruban de verte,

3090
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:54,000
kystique lave et/ou trottoir. >>

3091
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,000
11.2 Approve an agreement to be

3092
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:56,000
entered into with Réseau de

3093
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:57,000
transport métropolitain

3094
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,000
(EXO)

3095
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:59,000
regarding the extension of the

3096
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:00,060
interruption of the prescription

3097
01:56:00,060 --> 01:56:01,060
period. It is the interest of

3098
01:56:01,060 --> 01:56:03,060
the parties to agree to an

3099
01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:04,060
interruption of a limitation

3100
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:06,060
period concerning all sums that

3101
01:56:06,060 --> 01:56:07,060
would be do between them in

3102
01:56:07,060 --> 01:56:09,060
connection with the agreements,

3103
01:56:09,060 --> 01:56:10,060
with the sharing of

3104
01:56:10,060 --> 01:56:11,060
responsibilities for

3105
01:56:11,060 --> 01:56:12,060
maintenance, minor and major

3106
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:13,060
works on the three stations

3107
01:56:13,060 --> 01:56:15,060
covering the period from January

3108
01:56:15,060 --> 01:56:20,060
1st, 2019, to May 31st, 2023.

3109
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:24,060
>> For 11.1 to 11.2, do I have a

3110
01:56:24,060 --> 01:56:26,060
mover?

3111
01:56:26,060 --> 01:56:27,060
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

3112
01:56:27,060 --> 01:56:28,060
>> And seconder?

3113
01:56:28,060 --> 01:56:30,060
>> I Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

3114
01:56:30,060 --> 01:56:31,060
district three.

3115
01:56:31,060 --> 01:56:33,060
>> All in favour?

3116
01:56:33,060 --> 01:56:34,060
- 12.1 Déposer la liste des

3117
01:56:34,060 --> 01:56:35,060
changements au personnel par

3118
01:56:35,060 --> 01:56:36,060
décisions déléguées pour le mois

3119
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:41,060
d'avril 2024. >> 12.2 Approve

3120
01:56:41,060 --> 01:56:42,060
the list of non-delegated staff

3121
01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:45,060
changes as of April 2, 2024.

3122
01:56:45,060 --> 01:56:46,060
- 12.3 Approuver une

3123
01:56:46,060 --> 01:56:47,060
modification à la Politique sur

3124
01:56:47,060 --> 01:56:48,060
les déplacements à la demande de

3125
01:56:48,060 --> 01:56:51,060
l'employeur. Le taux annuel de

3126
01:56:51,060 --> 01:56:52,060
remboursement par kilomètre est

3127
01:56:52,060 --> 01:56:57,060
indexé de 1,45%.

3128
01:57:00,020 --> 01:57:01,020
>> Sorry about that.

3129
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:06,020
- Des 12,1 à 12.3.

3130
01:57:09,020 --> 01:57:14,020
-,. >> 14.1 Exercise the renewal

3131
01:57:18,020 --> 01:57:19,020
option provided for in the

3132
01:57:19,020 --> 01:57:20,020
contract entered into with

3133
01:57:20,020 --> 01:57:21,020
MELOCHE, A DIVISION OF SINTRA

3134
01:57:21,020 --> 01:57:22,020
and CONSTRUCTION DJL, for the

3135
01:57:22,020 --> 01:57:25,020
period of mid-March 2024 to

3136
01:57:25,020 --> 01:57:27,020
mid-March 2025, in the amount of

3137
01:57:27,020 --> 01:57:31,020
$ 329,679.32, taxes included for

3138
01:57:31,020 --> 01:57:33,020
the supply and the loading of

3139
01:57:33,020 --> 01:57:34,020
hot-mix asphalt

3140
01:57:34,020 --> 01:57:35,020
(excluding transport)

3141
01:57:35,020 --> 01:57:38,020
. This multi-order contract

3142
01:57:38,020 --> 01:57:40,020
ensures the

3143
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:41,020
[Inaudible]

3144
01:57:41,020 --> 01:57:43,020
Asphalt in the event of an

3145
01:57:43,020 --> 01:57:44,020
availability from the main

3146
01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:45,020
supply.

3147
01:57:45,020 --> 01:57:47,020
>> For 14.1, do I have a mover?

3148
01:57:47,020 --> 01:57:48,020
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

3149
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:51,020
>> And seconder? Tremblay,

3150
01:57:51,020 --> 01:57:52,020
district six.

3151
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:55,020
>> All in favour?

3152
01:57:55,020 --> 01:57:56,020
- 14.2 Octroyer un contrat pour

3153
01:57:56,020 --> 01:57:57,020
des travaux horticoles

3154
01:57:57,020 --> 01:57:58,020
d'entretien et de dégagement des

3155
01:57:58,020 --> 01:58:01,080
vues en rive pour l'année 2024,

3156
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:02,080
à 9317-9083 QUÉBEC INC.

3157
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:03,080
(FAS GESTION FLORACOM)

3158
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,080
, Pour un montant total de

3159
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:09,080
45514,92 $, taxes incluses, avec

3160
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,080
l'année 2025 en option. Ce

3161
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:12,080
contrat d'entretien et le

3162
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,080
dégagement des vues en rives est

3163
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:15,080
nécessaire pour assurer les

3164
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:16,080
travaux de maintien de la

3165
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:20,080
qualité des sites riverains.

3166
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:21,080
14.3 Award a contract for

3167
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:22,080
horticultural maintenance and

3168
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:23,080
planting works at an hourly rate

3169
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:27,080
for the 2024 season, to

3170
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:30,080
9042-0845 QUÉBEC INC.

3171
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,080
(MARIO C ET FILS)

3172
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:35,080
, For a total amount of $

3173
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:36,080
80,160.57, taxes included, with

3174
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:41,080
the 2025 season in option. This

3175
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:42,080
contract will provide

3176
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,080
maintenance at an hourly rate

3177
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,080
upon request to complete various

3178
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,080
horticultural tasks, including

3179
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,080
minions of garden beds in parks

3180
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:50,080
and green spaces across the

3181
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,080
city.

3182
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:53,080
- 14.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

3183
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:54,080
des travaux horticoles et de

3184
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,080
plantation aux aménagements du

3185
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:56,080
boulevard Hymus pour l'année

3186
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,080
2024, à 9190-8673 QUÉBEC INC.

3187
01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,080
(LES ENTREPRISES ROSENEIGE)

3188
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:00,040
, Pour un montant total de

3189
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:04,040
118579,47 $, taxes incluses. >>

3190
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,040
14.5 Award a contract for

3191
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:09,040
planting and maintenance works

3192
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:10,040
of trees in root ball for the

3193
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,040
year 2024, to TERRASSEMENT

3194
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:13,040
TECHNIQUE SYLVAIN LABRECQUE INC.

3195
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:18,040
, For a total amount of $

3196
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,040
266,454.56, taxes included, with

3197
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:22,040
two years in option. The Works

3198
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:24,040
consist of planting and

3199
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:26,040
maintaining 40 to 50 millimetres

3200
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:28,040
calibre trees in root ball,

3201
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:29,040
being a quantity of

3202
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,040
approximately 650 trees along

3203
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,040
the streets in parks and green

3204
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:34,040
spaces and in natural woodlands.

3205
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:35,040
The contract includes a

3206
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,040
warranty, as well as watering it

3207
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,040
means for a period of two years.

3208
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:39,040
And the trees are supplied by

3209
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,040
the City.

3210
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:42,040
- 14.6 Octroyer un contrat pour

3211
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:43,040
la fourniture et la livraison

3212
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:44,040
d'arbres, à PÉPINIÈRE Y. YVON

3213
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,040
AUCLAIR ET FILS pour le Lot A et

3214
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,040
à PÉPINIÈRE JARDIN 2000 INC.

3215
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:48,040
Pour le Lot B, pour un montant

3216
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:52,040
total de 149639,96 $ taxes

3217
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,040
incluses pour le Lot A et

3218
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:57,040
64673,44 $ taxes incluses pour

3219
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:01,000
le Lot B. Le contrat des dans

3220
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:02,000
promettent ces inscrit dans le

3221
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:03,000
programme annuel de remplacement

3222
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:05,000
des arbres municipaux

3223
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,000
conjointement avec le programme

3224
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:08,000
de remplacement des frênes

3225
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:09,000
abattus selon la stratégie de

3226
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:10,000
lutte à l'agrile du frêne adopté

3227
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:14,000
en 2015 par le Conseil. >> 14.7

3228
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:15,000
Award a contract for stump

3229
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,000
removal works for the year 2024,

3230
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:19,000
to ÉLAGAGE PRESTIGE INC., For a

3231
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:22,000
total amount of $ 190,468.27,

3232
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:26,000
taxes included. These works

3233
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,000
include stump removal by

3234
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,000
mulching and service restoration

3235
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:33,000
by general seating or software

3236
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:34,000
required for an approximate

3237
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,000
quantity of 335 stumps for the

3238
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,000
year 2024.

3239
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:40,000
- 14.8 Octroyer un contrat pour

3240
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:41,000
des services professionnels pour

3241
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:42,000
l'élaboration et le suivi du

3242
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,000
plan directeur du parc naturel

3243
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:44,000
Terra-Cotta pour les années 2024

3244
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,000
et 2025, à NADEAU FORESTERIE

3245
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,000
URBAINE INC., Pour un montant

3246
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,000
total de 95408,37 $, taxes

3247
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:52,000
incluses, avec trois années en

3248
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,000
option. Le contrat consiste à

3249
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:56,000
élaborer le plan directeur des

3250
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,000
activités sylvicole du parc

3251
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:00,060
naturel Terra-Cotta et d'en

3252
02:01:00,060 --> 02:01:02,060
faire le suivi annuel avec une

3253
02:01:02,060 --> 02:01:04,060
fibre spécialisée en foresterie

3254
02:01:04,060 --> 02:01:05,060
urbaine et en aménagement de

3255
02:01:05,060 --> 02:01:09,060
boisé urbains.

3256
02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:11,060
- De 14,10 à 14,8. Do I have a

3257
02:01:11,060 --> 02:01:12,060
mover?

3258
02:01:12,060 --> 02:01:13,060
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3259
02:01:13,060 --> 02:01:15,060
>> And seconder?

3260
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:17,060
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

3261
02:01:17,060 --> 02:01:21,060
>> All in favour? >> 14.9 Award

3262
02:01:21,060 --> 02:01:22,060
a contract for the supply and

3263
02:01:22,060 --> 02:01:24,060
the delivery of chemicals for

3264
02:01:24,060 --> 02:01:25,060
outdoor swimming pools and

3265
02:01:25,060 --> 02:01:27,060
splash pads for the period from

3266
02:01:27,060 --> 02:01:30,060
April 2024 to March 2026, to

3267
02:01:30,060 --> 02:01:31,060
AQUATECHNO SPÉCIALISTES

3268
02:01:31,060 --> 02:01:33,060
AQUATIQUES INC., For a total

3269
02:01:33,060 --> 02:01:36,060
amount of $ 74,874.02, taxes

3270
02:01:36,060 --> 02:01:37,060
included, with one year in

3271
02:01:37,060 --> 02:01:40,060
option. The chemicals are

3272
02:01:40,060 --> 02:01:42,060
required to sanitize the water

3273
02:01:42,060 --> 02:01:44,060
and it plays an important role

3274
02:01:44,060 --> 02:01:46,060
in the maintenance, health, and

3275
02:01:46,060 --> 02:01:47,060
longevity of the outdoor

3276
02:01:47,060 --> 02:01:49,060
swimming pools and splash pads.

3277
02:01:49,060 --> 02:01:50,060
- 14.10 Octroyer un contrat pour

3278
02:01:50,060 --> 02:01:51,060
la fourniture et livraison d'une

3279
02:01:51,060 --> 02:01:53,060
surfaceuse à glace neuf, à

3280
02:01:53,060 --> 02:01:54,060
ROBERT BOILEAU INC., Pour un

3281
02:01:54,060 --> 02:01:56,060
montant total de 195013,69 $,

3282
02:01:56,060 --> 02:02:00,020
taxes incluses. Ce contrat est

3283
02:02:00,020 --> 02:02:01,020
l'achat d'une nouvelle

3284
02:02:01,020 --> 02:02:02,020
surfaceuse de glace pour la

3285
02:02:02,020 --> 02:02:06,020
patinoire Bob Bernie. >> 14.11

3286
02:02:06,020 --> 02:02:08,020
Award a contract for the

3287
02:02:08,020 --> 02:02:09,020
replacement and the installation

3288
02:02:09,020 --> 02:02:10,020
of service connections, to

3289
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:11,020
EXCAVATION D. JOMPHE, for a

3290
02:02:11,020 --> 02:02:15,020
total amount of $ 455,031.80,

3291
02:02:15,020 --> 02:02:17,020
taxes included. This contract

3292
02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:19,020
provides for the replacement

3293
02:02:19,020 --> 02:02:20,020
installation of service

3294
02:02:20,020 --> 02:02:22,020
connections for existing and new

3295
02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:23,020
residential buildings in the

3296
02:02:23,020 --> 02:02:26,020
city for the year 2024. The cost

3297
02:02:26,020 --> 02:02:27,020
of the work is calculated based

3298
02:02:27,020 --> 02:02:29,020
on the lowest compliant bidders

3299
02:02:29,020 --> 02:02:31,020
price and is paid for by the

3300
02:02:31,020 --> 02:02:35,020
permit applicants.

3301
02:02:36,020 --> 02:02:38,020
- 14.12 Octroyer un contrat pour

3302
02:02:38,020 --> 02:02:39,020
la fourniture et la livraison de

3303
02:02:39,020 --> 02:02:40,020
peinture et microbille de verre

3304
02:02:40,020 --> 02:02:42,020
pour le marquage de chaussée, à

3305
02:02:42,020 --> 02:02:45,020
ENNIS PAINT CANADA ULC, pour un

3306
02:02:45,020 --> 02:02:49,020
montant total de 36899,16 $,

3307
02:02:49,020 --> 02:02:54,020
taxes incluses. >> 14.13 Approve

3308
02:02:54,020 --> 02:02:56,020
a change order -- sorry, go

3309
02:02:56,020 --> 02:02:57,020
ahead.

3310
02:02:57,020 --> 02:02:59,020
- Excuse-moi, Danielle. Je pense

3311
02:02:59,020 --> 02:03:02,080
que c'est de 14,9 à 14,12. To

3312
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:03,080
have a mover?

3313
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:04,080
>> District to.

3314
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:05,080
>> Seconder?

3315
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:07,080
- Claude Cousineau, district un.

3316
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:08,080
>> Claude Cousineau.

3317
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,080
>> All in favour?

3318
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:15,080
>> So now, 14.13 Approve a

3319
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:17,080
change order to the contract

3320
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:18,080
entered into with MELOCHE,

3321
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:19,080
DIVISION DE SINTRA, for the

3322
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:20,080
supply and the delivery of

3323
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:21,080
ready-mix concrete, for an

3324
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:22,080
amount of $ 12,521.75, taxes

3325
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:26,080
included. The public works and

3326
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:27,080
deliver repaired more sidewalks

3327
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:29,080
and curbs during the 2023 season

3328
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:32,080
and it's such a high volume of

3329
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,080
ready mix concrete was acquired.

3330
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,080
- 14.14 Approuver l'évaluation

3331
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,080
de rendement insatisfaisant de

3332
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:40,080
BIOTHEC FORESTERIE INC. Dans le

3333
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:41,080
cadre de la réalisation du

3334
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:44,080
contrat pour des travaux

3335
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,080
d'arboriculture suite au verglas

3336
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:47,080
pour la période de l'été à

3337
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:50,080
l'automne 2023. Conformément à

3338
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,080
la Loi sur les cités et villes,

3339
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:53,080
la ville se réserve la

3340
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:55,080
possibilité de refuser tout de

3341
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:58,080
soumission de BIOTHEC FORESTERIE

3342
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,080
INC. Pour une période de 2 ans

3343
02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:01,040
suivant l'approbation de

3344
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:02,040
l'évaluation finale de rendement

3345
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,040
insatisfaisant approuvée par le

3346
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:09,040
Conseil. >> 15.1 Exercise the

3347
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:10,040
renewal option provided for in

3348
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:11,040
the contract entered into with

3349
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:12,040
NOUVELLE TECHNOLOGIE

3350
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:13,040
(TEKNO)

3351
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:15,040
INC. And A.S.I. EXPERT

3352
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:16,040
AQUATIQUE, for the period of

3353
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:17,040
April 1, 2024, to March 31,

3354
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:21,040
2025, in the amount of $

3355
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:22,040
98,318.02, taxes included, for

3356
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:24,040
the supply and the delivery of

3357
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:25,040
chemicals for the City's

3358
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:28,040
swimming pools.

3359
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:29,040
- 15.2 Se prévaloir de l'option

3360
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:30,040
de renouvellement prévue au

3361
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:31,040
contrat intervenu avec AV-TECH

3362
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:32,040
INC., Pour la période du 1 avril

3363
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,040
2024 au 31 mars 2025, au montant

3364
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:38,040
de 43420,31 $, taxes incluses,

3365
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:39,040
pour des services d'entretien,

3366
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:40,040
d'inspection et de réparation

3367
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:41,040
des génératrices de la Ville de

3368
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:44,040
PointeClaire. >> 15.3 Award a

3369
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:45,040
contract for repetitive

3370
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:48,040
maintenance and repair works on

3371
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,040
concrete surfaces and paving for

3372
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:51,040
the years 2024-2025 and

3373
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:54,040
2025-2026, to LES TERRASSEMENTS

3374
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:57,040
MONTREAL INC., For a total

3375
02:04:57,040 --> 02:05:00,000
amount of $ 439,457.63, taxes

3376
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,000
included, with three years in

3377
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:06,000
option.

3378
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:12,000
- Pour 14,13 à 15,3. Do I have a

3379
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,000
mover?

3380
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,000
>> And seconder?

3381
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,000
- Le Cousineau.

3382
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:22,000
All in favour? - Bruno Tremblay.

3383
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,000
- 15.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

3384
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:25,000
des travaux d'entretien et de

3385
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:26,000
réparation des systèmes

3386
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:27,000
mécaniques pour la période de la

3387
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:28,000
mi-avril 2024 à la mi-avril

3388
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,000
2026, à AV-TECH INC., Pour un

3389
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:33,000
montant total de 286109,30 $,

3390
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,000
taxes incluses, avec trois

3391
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:38,000
années en option. >> 15.5 Award

3392
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:39,000
a contract for the supply and

3393
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,000
the delivery of mechanical parts

3394
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:44,000
for HVAC systems for the period

3395
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:45,000
of mid-April 2024 to mid-March

3396
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:49,000
2025, to TRANE CANADA ULC, for a

3397
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:53,000
total amount of $ 85,858.52,

3398
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,000
taxes included, with two years

3399
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:58,000
in option.

3400
02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,000
- 15.6 Octroyer un contrat pour

3401
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,060
des services professionnels pour

3402
02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:01,060
une étude de réaménagement

3403
02:06:01,060 --> 02:06:03,060
interne de l'Hôtel-de-Ville, à

3404
02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:05,060
LEMAY CO INC., Pour un montant

3405
02:06:05,060 --> 02:06:08,060
total de 70709,63 $, taxes

3406
02:06:08,060 --> 02:06:11,060
incluses. Les espaces actuels de

3407
02:06:11,060 --> 02:06:13,060
travail sont en pleine capacité,

3408
02:06:13,060 --> 02:06:14,060
ce qui restreint la croissance

3409
02:06:14,060 --> 02:06:16,060
des départements et qui ne

3410
02:06:16,060 --> 02:06:18,060
favorisent pas la cohésion et la

3411
02:06:18,060 --> 02:06:19,060
collaboration des différents

3412
02:06:19,060 --> 02:06:21,060
services. >> 16.1 Award a

3413
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:22,060
contract for the reconstruction

3414
02:06:22,060 --> 02:06:24,060
of Winthrop Avenue with the

3415
02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:25,060
addition of a bike path, between

3416
02:06:25,060 --> 02:06:27,060
Hymus Boulevard and Jubilee

3417
02:06:27,060 --> 02:06:29,060
Square Avenue, to CONSTRUCTION

3418
02:06:29,060 --> 02:06:33,060
CAMARA, for a total amount of $

3419
02:06:33,060 --> 02:06:36,060
2,989,349.99, taxes included.

3420
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:39,060
- 16.2 Octroyer un contrat pour

3421
02:06:39,060 --> 02:06:40,060
l'éclairage du Jardin de

3422
02:06:40,060 --> 02:06:43,060
lecture, à LE GROUPE LML LTÉE,

3423
02:06:43,060 --> 02:06:45,060
pour un montant total de

3424
02:06:45,060 --> 02:06:50,060
72174,69 $, taxes incluses. Dans

3425
02:06:50,060 --> 02:06:51,060
le but d'augmenter la visibilité

3426
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:53,060
et la sécurité du jardin de

3427
02:06:53,060 --> 02:06:54,060
lecture à l'arrière de la

3428
02:06:54,060 --> 02:06:55,060
Bibliothèque centrale, le comité

3429
02:06:55,060 --> 02:06:58,060
de sécurité interne leur

3430
02:06:58,060 --> 02:06:59,060
recommande d'installer une

3431
02:06:59,060 --> 02:07:03,020
caméra et un lampadaire. >> For

3432
02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:08,020
15.4 to 16.2, do I have a mover?

3433
02:07:08,020 --> 02:07:09,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

3434
02:07:09,020 --> 02:07:10,020
district three.

3435
02:07:10,020 --> 02:07:11,020
>> And seconder?

3436
02:07:11,020 --> 02:07:12,020
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

3437
02:07:12,020 --> 02:07:13,020
>> All in favour?

3438
02:07:13,020 --> 02:07:16,020
- Merci. >> 16.3 Award a

3439
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:17,020
contract for the supply of

3440
02:07:17,020 --> 02:07:18,020
charging stations to be

3441
02:07:18,020 --> 02:07:19,020
installed at several locations

3442
02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:20,020
in the City of Pointe-Claire in

3443
02:07:20,020 --> 02:07:23,020
2024, to ADDÉNERGIE TECHNOLOGIES

3444
02:07:23,020 --> 02:07:27,020
INC. FLO, for a total amount of

3445
02:07:27,020 --> 02:07:31,020
$ 265,719.87, taxes included.

3446
02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:32,020
The selected sites are as

3447
02:07:32,020 --> 02:07:35,020
follows, City Hall, 94 Douglas

3448
02:07:35,020 --> 02:07:36,020
Shand, the aquatic center,

3449
02:07:36,020 --> 02:07:38,020
public works, Edgewater park,

3450
02:07:38,020 --> 02:07:40,020
the central library, all of

3451
02:07:40,020 --> 02:07:42,020
Urqhart sports center. And there

3452
02:07:42,020 --> 02:07:43,020
will be charging stations for

3453
02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:45,020
the public and others in city

3454
02:07:45,020 --> 02:07:48,020
employees in municipal vehicles.

3455
02:07:48,020 --> 02:07:50,020
- 16.4 Octroyer un contrat pour

3456
02:07:50,020 --> 02:07:51,020
l'installation de bornes de

3457
02:07:51,020 --> 02:07:52,020
recharge, à 130132 CANADA INC.

3458
02:07:52,020 --> 02:07:53,020
(LAROCHELLE ÉLECTRIQUE)

3459
02:07:53,020 --> 02:07:55,020
, Pour un montant total de

3460
02:07:55,020 --> 02:07:58,020
539715,65 $, taxes incluses. En

3461
02:07:58,020 --> 02:07:59,020
mettant de l'avant ces projets

3462
02:07:59,020 --> 02:08:01,080
avant le 15 septembre 2024, la

3463
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:02,080
Ville de Pointe-Claire bénéficie

3464
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:04,080
d'un programme de subventions de

3465
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:05,080
bornes de recharge

3466
02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:06,080
d'Hydro-Québec. Le programme

3467
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:07,080
circuit électrique est un

3468
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:08,080
programme de souvent si on

3469
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:10,080
déborde recharge du gouvernement

3470
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:11,080
du Québec où les verts pour

3471
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:12,080
l'achat à l'installation de

3472
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:14,080
bornes de recharge pour

3473
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:15,080
l'utilisation publique et

3474
02:08:15,080 --> 02:08:16,080
privée, la flotte et les

3475
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:17,080
employés dans plusieurs endroits

3476
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:19,080
de la ville. En tout, le montant

3477
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:22,080
de la subvention totalise 416000

3478
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:26,080
dollars. >> 16.5 Award a

3479
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:27,080
contract for the resurfacing of

3480
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:29,080
the tennis and pickleball court

3481
02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:30,080
at Northview Park, to 9190-8673

3482
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,080
QUÉBEC INC.

3483
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:33,080
(LES ENTREPRISES ROSE NEIGE)

3484
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:34,080
, For a total amount of $

3485
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:39,080
485,701.08, taxes included.

3486
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:45,080
As March 12th meeting, Council

3487
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:51,080
awarded a contract to -- but an

3488
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:53,080
error was discovered towards a

3489
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:54,080
insurance document. It is

3490
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:56,080
therefore necessarily to rectify

3491
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:58,080
the air and award the contract

3492
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,040
to the lowest bidder, in this

3493
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,040
case, being 9190-8673 QUÉBEC

3494
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:02,040
INC.

3495
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:03,040
(LES ENTREPRISES ROSE NEIGE)

3496
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:05,040
, For a total amount of $

3497
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,040
485,701.08. I did you, so the

3498
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:10,040
City must also terminate the

3499
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:11,040
contract award to the previous

3500
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:14,040
company, and convene resolution

3501
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:15,040
2094 1:19.

3502
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:19,040
- 16,3 à 16,5. Do I have a

3503
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,040
mover?

3504
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:24,040
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3505
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:27,040
- Merci. All in favour? 17.1

3506
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:28,040
Considérer les plans

3507
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:29,040
d'implantation et d'intégration

3508
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:30,040
architecturale relatifs à la

3509
02:09:30,040 --> 02:09:31,040
propriété située au 80, avenue

3510
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,040
Broadview. Pour un

3511
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:34,040
agrandissement. >> 17.2 Consider

3512
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:36,040
the site planning and

3513
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:37,040
architectural integration

3514
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:38,040
programme plans with respect to

3515
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:39,040
the property situated at 24

3516
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:41,040
Claremont Avenue. It is four

3517
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:42,040
exterior renovations.

3518
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:43,040
- 17.3 Considérer les plans

3519
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:44,040
d'implantation et d'intégration

3520
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:45,040
architecturale relatifs à la

3521
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:48,040
propriété située au 20, avenue

3522
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:49,040
Condover pour un agrandissement.

3523
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,040
>> 17.4 Consider the site

3524
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:52,040
planning and architectural

3525
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:53,040
integration programme plans with

3526
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:54,040
respect to the property situated

3527
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:58,040
at 2 Hillside Avenue. For solar

3528
02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:00,000
panel installation.

3529
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,000
>> For 17.1 to 17.4, do I have a

3530
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:04,000
mover?

3531
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,000
>> I move that Council except

3532
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,000
the site planning and

3533
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:10,000
architectural integration plans

3534
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:13,000
for 17.1 for 17.4. Brent Cowan,

3535
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:14,000
district eight.

3536
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,000
>> And seconder?

3537
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,000
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

3538
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:18,000
district three.

3539
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:22,000
>> All in favour?

3540
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:24,000
- 18.1 Octroyer un contrat pour

3541
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:25,000
des services professionnels pour

3542
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:26,000
la location d'une patinoire

3543
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:27,000
extérieure réfrigérée, d'un

3544
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,000
sentier extérieur réfrigéré et

3545
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:31,000
d'une zamboni, à SYNERGLACE

3546
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:32,000
CANADA INC., Pour un montant

3547
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:36,000
total de 374841,50 $, taxes

3548
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:40,000
incluses. L'Allocation est de la

3549
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:42,000
mi-octobre 2024 à la mi-avril

3550
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,000
2025 avec deux options de

3551
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:47,000
renouvellement.

3552
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:48,000
- Pour 18.1.

3553
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:49,000
Do I have a mover?

3554
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,000
- Claude Cousineau, district un.

3555
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,000
>> And seconder? - Paul

3556
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:54,000
Bissonnette, district deux. All

3557
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,000
in favour?

3558
02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:59,000
>> Against.

3559
02:11:07,060 --> 02:11:10,060
>> 19 point, one order contract

3560
02:11:10,060 --> 02:11:12,060
to constructions genesis for the

3561
02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:13,060
reconstruction between -- Duke

3562
02:11:13,060 --> 02:11:15,060
of Canada Douglas Cheng avenues

3563
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:20,060
for an event of 1 million

3564
02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:24,060
$848,709.47, taxes included. A

3565
02:11:24,060 --> 02:11:25,060
743,000 dollar grant from the

3566
02:11:25,060 --> 02:11:27,060
Québec's -- is attached to this

3567
02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:29,060
project.

3568
02:11:29,060 --> 02:11:32,060
- 19.2, octroyer un contrat

3569
02:11:32,060 --> 02:11:33,060
concernant la reconstruction de

3570
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:35,060
l'avenue Mount Cris et l'avenue

3571
02:11:35,060 --> 02:11:36,060
Millie Venne entre l'avenue

3572
02:11:36,060 --> 02:11:37,060
(---)

3573
02:11:37,060 --> 02:11:39,060
à excavation Grey qu'on pour un

3574
02:11:39,060 --> 02:11:40,060
montant total de 3 millions

3575
02:11:40,060 --> 02:11:44,060
425752 dollars et 40 sous taxes

3576
02:11:44,060 --> 02:11:45,060
incluses. Une subvention de 1

3577
02:11:45,060 --> 02:11:47,060
million 675000 dollars est

3578
02:11:47,060 --> 02:11:49,060
attaché à ce contrat provenant

3579
02:11:49,060 --> 02:11:50,060
du programme Primeau du

3580
02:11:50,060 --> 02:11:54,060
gouvernement du Québec.

3581
02:11:54,060 --> 02:11:57,060
- Pour 19.1 et 19.2.

3582
02:12:06,020 --> 02:12:09,020
All in favour? Closure, for

3583
02:12:09,020 --> 02:12:10,020
closure to I have a mover?

3584
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:11,020
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3585
02:12:11,020 --> 02:12:13,020
>> And seconder?

3586
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:14,020
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

3587
02:12:14,020 --> 02:12:17,020
>> All in favour?

3588
02:12:17,020 --> 02:12:18,020
- Merci, tout le monde. Thanks

3589
02:12:18,020 --> 02:12:20,020
everyone, have a good evening.

3590
02:12:20,020 --> 02:12:22,020
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