[0:32] Mesdames et Messieurs, bonsoir
[0:33] et bienvenue à cette séance
[0:35] ordinaire du 2 avril. Ladies and
[0:39] gentlemen, good evening and
[0:40] welcome to the April 2nd
[0:42] meeting. Avant de débuter la
[0:45] séance, j'aimerais vous parler
[0:46] de quelques activités et
[0:49] changements qui ont lieu en
[0:50] avril. Il y a toujours beaucoup
[0:56] d'effervescence, oui, à
[0:57] l'arrivée du printemps. Entre...
[1:03] entretien du printemps. Au cours
[1:04] des dernières semaines, en
[1:06] raison des températures
[1:07] clémentes, la ville a entamé ses
[1:10] opérations d'entretien pour le
[1:13] printemps. Afin de faciliter les
[1:16] opérations, la Ville demande aux
[1:18] citoyennes et aux citoyens
[1:20] d'éviter de stationner leur
[1:21] véhicule dans la rue. The City
[1:24] has begun in spring maintenance
[1:26] operations in order to
[1:27] facilitate operations, we are
[1:29] asking citizens to avoid parking
[1:31] their vehicles on the street.
[1:35] Des changements au collectes en
[1:38] 2024. Il y a des changements
[1:40] dans les collectes. Cette
[1:42] semaine, à compter du 4 avril,
[1:45] la collecte des matières
[1:48] recyclables se déroulent le
[1:50] jeudi. La collecte des matières
[1:52] organiques demeure le lundi. Le
[1:55] mercredi 10 avril aura lieu une
[1:58] collecte d'encombrant pour tout
[2:00] les secteurs. Dès le lundi 15
[2:04] avril, les collectes de feuilles
[2:06] auront lieu les lundis aux deux
[2:09] semaines pour tout le
[2:10] territoire. There are changes in
[2:12] your collections this week,
[2:14] starting April 4th. Recyclables
[2:17] will be collected on Thursdays,
[2:19] organics will continue to be
[2:21] collected on Mondays. On
[2:23] Wednesday, April ten, bulky
[2:26] items will be collected in all
[2:29] sectors. Starting Monday, April
[2:31] 15th, leaf collection will take
[2:33] place on Mondays. Every two
[2:36] weeks for the entire territory.
[2:38] Bless you if you can remember
[2:40] all of that. Inscriptions aux
[2:42] activités nautique. À compter du
[2:45] lundi 8 avril, les résidents et
[2:47] les résidentes auront la chance
[2:49] de s'inscrire aux activités
[2:52] nautique et au programme de
[2:54] compétition pour la session
[2:55] d'été 2024. Les non-résidents
[3:00] pourront s'y inscrire à partir
[3:02] du mardi 18 avril. They come
[3:07] 2024, online registration for
[3:09] day camps begins on April nine,
[3:11] for residents and on May 2nd,
[3:14] for non residents. You can
[3:16] consult the-day camp program to
[3:18] choose from recreational,
[3:20] sports, cultural, and nautical
[3:23] camps. Jour de la Terre. Encore
[3:28] une fois cette année, nous
[3:30] allons souligner le jour de la
[3:32] Terre. Dès le lundi 15 avril à
[3:35] midi, réservez votre arbre en
[3:38] ligne sur le site Web de la
[3:40] ville. Avant la réservation,
[3:43] vous pouvez bénéficier des
[3:44] conseils d'une ou d'un
[3:46] spécialiste en foresterie qui
[3:51] sera disponible pour répondre à
[3:53] vos questions le jeudi 11 avril.
[3:56] The first hundred people to
[3:57] reserve a tree can also reserve
[3:59] a free reign water barrel. It
[4:01] will be delivered at the same
[4:02] time as the tree on Saturday,
[4:04] April 27th. In the meantime, you
[4:07] can consult the list of
[4:09] available trees on the website.
[4:11] Trees are offered as part of
[4:13] earth day. Il y a une très belle
[4:18] exposition au Centre Stewart
[4:20] Hall jusqu'au 21 avril
[4:23] réunissant les travaux de trois
[4:26] artistes: Annie France Leclerc,
[4:28] (---)
[4:29] et Vicky Sabourin. The
[4:31] carefulness and the blade is a
[4:33] very interesting exposition at
[4:35] Stewart Hall. I hope you will
[4:36] have the opportunity to see it.
[4:38] It is on display until April
[4:40] 21st. Les athlètes de
[4:45] Pointe-Claire. Des athlètes de
[4:47] Pointe-Claire se sont démarqués
[4:48] aux Jeux du Québec qui se sont
[4:49] déroulées en mars en remportant
[4:51] une médaille pour leur
[4:54] délégation. Pointe-Claire
[4:56] athletes made their mark in
[4:57] March, getting a medal for their
[5:01] delegation. The Paterson and
[5:02] Richard
[5:07] Deux médailles d'or en curling.
[5:09] A gold medalists and curling,
[5:10] Maya and Victoria received Maia
[5:13] cou et Victoria Bowen, qui ont
[5:15] reçu des médailles d'argent en
[5:17] hockey féminin. Silver medals
[5:19] for women's hockey in 13 and 14
[5:21] years old category. Each
[5:23] categories. I believe on a final
[5:28] note, I just want to make a
[5:30] couple of comments on two events
[5:33] that I visited last week. Part
[5:36] of the beauty through the job of
[5:38] being mayor is that you get to
[5:40] support local organizations that
[5:43] often plug holes in our social
[5:45] safety net and services that
[5:47] otherwise would not get done and
[5:49] some of them are quite
[5:50] magnificent at it. The first one
[5:53] was liberty house. It is a
[5:57] housing program for women
[5:59] reintegrating society. They are
[6:01] a dedicated team that are
[6:02] committed to helping women in
[6:04] recovery find the rightful and
[6:05] productive place and their
[6:06] society and it was quite an
[6:08] uplifting meeting. As well, I
[6:10] attended Pointe-Claire's first
[6:13] repair café. Now, repair cafes
[6:16] are very interesting. They are
[6:17] popping up all over Europe. And
[6:19] all over the world, in fact. And
[6:22] it was conducted, the first one
[6:24] was conducted at fab zone. I
[6:26] would have liked, it was well
[6:28] intended but I would've liked
[6:29] even better attendance. Fab
[6:31] zones next repair café will be
[6:33] on Sunday April 21st just in
[6:36] time for earth day. They keep
[6:41] thousands of items out of
[6:42] landfill by bringing volunteers
[6:44] with skills and knowledge into
[6:45] the community to demonstrate how
[6:47] are broken items can be fixed.
[6:49] So, basically, you can bring
[6:52] your items and have them
[6:53] repaired, and it is happening in
[6:55] the fab zone at April 21st. Et
[6:58] je pense que c'est tout. Est-ce
[7:01] qu'on a des... I guess we will
[7:02] move to the council members
[7:04] reports, I will start it with
[7:06] district eight. With Councillor
[7:10] Cohen.
[7:11] >> I have nothing to report.
[7:18] >> I would just like to know if
[7:20] the diocese got back to us.
[7:24] >> From what I know, I do not
[7:28] think so. But I am somewhat
[7:30] disturbed by the question,
[7:32] because you are part of the
[7:33] committee that is responsible
[7:34] for that response, along with
[7:36] the director general, whereas I
[7:39] had a deal on the table, we've
[7:42] chosen an alternate route for
[7:44] who is responsible. I'm
[7:46] wondering why you are asking me
[7:48] when you are in fact, in charge
[7:50] of that.
[7:51] >> I am asking you because the
[7:53] diocese will not report to me.
[7:57] >> They are supposed to report
[7:58] to you. And you are supposed to
[8:00] solicit a response through our
[8:02] director general, I believe that
[8:03] is what the resolution
[8:06] specified. Where we not supposed
[8:07] to get a response?
[8:09] >> The committee expired on the
[8:10] 31st of December.
[8:12] >> The deal was that it was the
[8:15] director general, under year
[8:17] authorization, was supposed to
[8:18] solicit a response before the
[8:21] conclusion of this process. Yes,
[8:23] if we go back and read the
[8:25] resolution, absolutely. I find
[8:26] your question very interesting
[8:29] Councillor Cousineau. Councillor
[8:32] Bissonnette?
[8:33] >> Thank you, Mister Mayor. One
[8:34] thing is a project on Lakeview,
[8:39] lakeside, I've asked the
[8:44] administration and Madam Verdun
[8:46] has accepted that they will
[8:47] prepare a presentation for
[8:50] citizens, it is done right now
[8:51] when we have a street
[8:53] reconstruction project where
[8:55] they can take this area,... Son
[8:59] invité à venir. Il y a une
[9:00] présentation faite de tout le
[9:01] projet. Les gens peuvent poser
[9:03] des questions. Ils vont savoir
[9:05] encore s'en tenir. Because this
[9:06] particular thing is also,
[9:08] Lakeview, is not only up until
[9:10] July, it will be Lakeside and
[9:12] Lakeview, than it is lakeshore,
[9:13] starting in July. Then the STM
[9:16] bus route is going to be
[9:17] rerouted using hillside, and
[9:22] lakeside and hillside. So it is
[9:24] just to give you an idea. We
[9:26] have to do the work, it is going
[9:27] to get done, there is no doubt
[9:29] about that. However, the thing
[9:30] is, at least you know what is
[9:31] coming. You know how it goes. Of
[9:33] course, a communication was very
[9:35] good on the projects we have
[9:37] done before with the foreman on
[9:39] that. That is what it is all
[9:41] about. No surprises, and it
[9:43] happens, it is Installation de
[9:47] conduites d'aqueduc de 900
[9:49] millimètres. Remplacement des
[9:51] égouts pluvieux et sanitaire,
[9:54] Fondation est d'un fossé de
[9:55] pavage. So it is connecting with
[9:56] the water with the filtration
[9:58] point clear and the other ones.
[10:00] So it is a Montréal project,
[10:02] however, when I've asked the
[10:04] people of Pointe-Claire,... Le
[10:08] gouvernement de proximité. That
[10:09] means you are close to the
[10:10] action. And if you are, you
[10:12] should have answers, you should
[10:13] be able to give people answers
[10:15] to questions. That is why they
[10:16] are making an effort on this
[10:18] one, it is different than what
[10:20] you have had before, but getting
[10:21] the information and giving it to
[10:23] you, so you will be advised. Do
[10:25] not worry, and I think that so
[10:27] far, it has gone well. They
[10:29] moved down on Lakeview quite
[10:30] fast and this is the second
[10:32] week, I guess, third week? Third
[10:35] week, maybe, now. So I think
[10:37] that it is going very well.
[10:39] Because it is a major project.
[10:41] Anyway, thank you.
[10:42] Merci beaucoup. >> Good evening.
[10:48] I would like to make an
[10:50] announcement that the
[10:51] reconstruction of avenue
[10:53] Monterrey and mill haven will be
[10:55] happening this year. It was part
[10:56] of the capitalization program.
[11:00] We did get a subsidy from the
[11:02] government so we are very happy
[11:03] to announce it is going to go
[11:04] through. And there will be a
[11:06] meeting of citizens when we get
[11:07] a bit closer to it and explain
[11:10] to them how it will affect their
[11:11] garbage bins and this type of
[11:13] thing. I'm very happy to
[11:14] announce that we are doing that,
[11:15] thank you.
[11:16] >> Councillor Tremblay?
[11:18] >> Nothing for tonight.
[11:21] >> Good evening everyone, I just
[11:22] wanted to make mention of some
[11:24] special thankyous that I had
[11:26] meant to do in March but know
[11:27] that there is a few we will come
[11:29] together nicely. I did want to
[11:32] thank the community of wisdom
[11:35] and church who hosted an amazing
[11:37] event for black history month
[11:39] and I think it is very important
[11:41] that they are trying to reach
[11:42] out to the community and they
[11:44] are relatively new members in
[11:46] the area on Mount Pleasant. So I
[11:49] just wanted to thank them. But
[11:51] also, we have some important
[11:55] work being done by different
[11:56] groups in the community and I
[11:58] want to thank them for their
[12:00] food Ministry that continues
[12:02] ongoing as well as the women's
[12:04] center who did a lovely
[12:06] celebration for International
[12:07] Women's Day. I think these
[12:09] different organizations are key
[12:10] to our community and they are a
[12:12] special way to help bring, we
[12:15] have our fabric together. Thank
[12:17] you to all of those who are
[12:19] contributing to the Valois
[12:20] Committee and Pointe-Claire at
[12:22] large.
[12:23] >> Councillor Stork?
[12:25] >> Oui, juste une couple de
[12:27] commentaires concernant le
[12:30] secteur. For those who attended
[12:32] my successful town hall the
[12:34] documentation is available to
[12:35] switch out and provide with
[12:36] follow-up questions and
[12:39] communications as well in this
[12:40] agenda today, we will see we are
[12:42] passing the reconstruction of
[12:44] the tennis court at Northview.
[12:47] It is a good project. Many
[12:49] citizens came and asked me about
[12:51] the cost. I explained it to the
[12:53] best of my ability. It was
[12:56] completely transparent and done
[12:57] properly, secondly, a major
[13:01] reconstruction being proposed
[13:02] today, hopefully it is accepted
[13:05] by fellow council members. But
[13:07] that being said, there will be a
[13:10] communication as well, and a
[13:12] meeting with the citizens in the
[13:13] area to discuss the plans to
[13:15] review them briefly. All
[13:17] citizens in the area have been
[13:19] communicated with in terms of
[13:20] their in lines of the water and
[13:22] other major concerns that would
[13:24] exist. I think that is another
[13:26] positive project for
[13:27] Pointe-Claire and for the
[13:29] citizens. Thank you.
[13:30] >> Okay. Councillor, tennis and
[13:36] pickleball court, pickleball is
[13:38] growing in popularity as we
[13:39] speak. So it should be mentioned
[13:40] in conjunction with tennis. I
[13:42] just want to point out that I'm
[13:48] supposed to give the mayor's
[13:49] remarks after. For that, I
[13:52] apologize. But we can continue
[13:54] with the agenda in the meantime.
[13:56] - Alors 1.1 adoption de lors du
[13:57] jour avec des ajouts. >> 1.1
[14:02] adoption of the agenda with one
[14:04] addition under the section.
[14:12] 19.1, for the complete
[14:14] reconstruction of services on --
[14:19] and the amount of 1 million
[14:26] $848,709.47, taxes included. Et
[14:31] à 19. Deux, octroyer un contrat
[14:34] concernant la reconstruction de
[14:35] l'avenue Montgomery et l'avenue
[14:36] Mail Haven entre l'avenue
[14:38] (---)
[14:39] comprenant un montant total de 3
[14:40] millions quatre aurait fait 1530
[14:43] et 40 taxes incluses.
[14:44] Maintenant, on peut procéder à
[14:46] l'adoption de l'ordre du jour.
[14:47] Now you can proceed with the
[14:48] adoption of the agenda.
[14:50] >> Do I have a mover?
[14:54] >> --
[14:55] >> And seconder?
[14:56] - Bruno Tremblay, district. All
[14:57] in favour? 3.1 Approuver le
[15:04] procès-verbal de la séance
[15:05] ordinaire du 12 mars 2024.
[15:11] Do I have a mover? And seconder?
[15:16] All in favour?
[15:21] - Période de questions.
[15:24] - Pour la période de questions,
[15:26] ce soir, à la période de
[15:29] questions, vous avez été
[15:30] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous
[15:32] inscrire à la période de
[15:34] questions. L'intention de cette
[15:36] démarche est d'abord de
[15:37] permettre aux personnes de
[15:38] demeurer assise jusqu'à l'appel
[15:39] de leur nom et d'accorder la
[15:42] priorité aux résidents et
[15:45] résidentes de Pointe-Claire. 01,
[15:50] nous garderons 90 minutes pour
[15:51] la période de questions. 02 une
[15:53] personne à la fois au micro.
[15:54] Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[15:56] qu'un citoyen ait terminé de
[15:58] poser sa question et que vous
[15:59] soyez appelé à vous lever pour
[16:02] venir poser votre question. Oui
[16:05] 3, et les non-résidents présents
[16:07] pourront poser leurs questions
[16:08] par la suite si le temps n'est
[16:10] pas écouler. For question period
[16:14] tonight, you were greeted at the
[16:16] entrance to register for
[16:17] question period, the goal of
[16:19] this approach is to allow people
[16:20] to remain seated until their
[16:21] name is called and give priority
[16:23] to Pointe-Claire residents, we
[16:25] shall stick to the 90 minute
[16:26] time limit for question period,
[16:29] one person at a time at the
[16:31] microphone. Thank you for
[16:32] waiting for a citizen to finish
[16:34] asking their question and to be
[16:37] called before you get up to ask
[16:38] your. Is nonresidents present
[16:40] will be able to ask questions
[16:42] afterwards if there is still
[16:43] time. On a final note, I'm just
[16:48] looking at the list of names
[16:49] here. Some of them are legible
[16:51] and some of them are. Not so I
[16:53] apologize in advance if I
[16:54] mispronounce your name. I will
[16:55] do my very best. Ken Lyons?
[17:02] >> Good evening. There is one
[17:04] thing I don't know if you have
[17:05] noticed. We do not have a
[17:07] railroad track going through
[17:08] Pointe-Claire anymore except the
[17:10] REM. But we still have crossed
[17:12] box on Sources Road to indicate
[17:15] that there is a railroad there.
[17:17] That is off of it. There are
[17:20] still tracks but they are not
[17:21] going anywhere. So perhaps we
[17:23] can remove the
[17:29] -- and a suggestion instead of
[17:33] throwing out considerate as a
[17:37] historical artifact. We used to
[17:39] have a track way before our time
[17:40] that came off what was known at
[17:42] the time, the Grandtrunk
[17:44] railway, now CN, it went all the
[17:46] way to the lakeshore. Right
[17:48] along Cartier. It went all the
[17:50] way down there. We have trucks
[17:52] to go to the water and that is
[17:54] what I'm saying. Instead of just
[17:56] turning that item out, consider
[17:58] using it as a historical
[18:01] artifact along that weight.
[18:04] >> That is an interesting
[18:05] comment. I'm a little confused.
[18:07] We do have a train going through
[18:09] Valois.
[18:12] >> What I'm trying to say is
[18:13] yes, I understand, but there is
[18:15] no railroad track going across
[18:17] sources road and at ground level
[18:20] north of Hymus.
[18:22] >> Okay. Where the sign is.
[18:24] >> It is right on the side of
[18:25] the road. And I think on the
[18:28] other side of sources is
[18:30] probably Dorval that has that
[18:32] one. But we can take care of
[18:34] ours.
[18:35] >> It is an interesting
[18:37] suggestion. I thank you for it.
[18:38] >> The other thing, you talked
[18:40] about cleaning. With the
[18:43] construction going on Hymus
[18:44] right now on both north and
[18:46] south sides, the sidewalks are
[18:50] really not very clean, there is
[18:52] mud on them, they haven't been
[18:54] cleaned, the street has been
[18:56] swept, but the sidewalk itself
[18:58] from the construction site on
[18:59] the south side going all the way
[19:01] to St. John's, and it is the
[19:04] same thing on the north side
[19:05] going all the way to still view.
[19:07] Could it be possible that it be
[19:08] clean without delay?
[19:16] Est-ce que c'est possible? >> We
[19:19] are working. We know about the
[19:21] situation and we are working to
[19:23] make sure that it is clean. We
[19:25] do our best at cleaning it every
[19:27] day.
[19:28] >> May I ask when it will be
[19:30] cleaned?
[19:31] >> It's supposed to be every
[19:32] day. So we have an inspector
[19:34] there each day. Every day.
[19:38] >> Thank you. One final comment,
[19:41] if I may.
[19:42] >> Question or comment?
[19:44] >> Comment. I am a proud
[19:47] Canadian. I'm also a proud
[19:49] Quebecer, but Canadian first.
[19:51] And it works me to know and to
[19:53] see what we have up here, the
[19:57] flag of preeminence should be
[19:58] the Canadian flag, which it is
[20:00] not. We have the Québec flag, I
[20:02] know the Québec government wants
[20:04] us to do that, but I'm sorry,
[20:06] Québec is not a country. Québec
[20:07] is a province part of Canada.
[20:09] Please give the Canadian flag
[20:11] its preeminence.
[20:14] >> Madame Verdon?
[20:17] >> We discussed several times
[20:19] that we are a provincial
[20:22] government bylaw. So we have to
[20:24] follow, unfortunately, the
[20:26] provincial flag protocol.
[20:30] >> But they are not going to
[20:31] come around --
[20:33] >> Well --
[20:34] >> Are you sure?
[20:36] >> Yes. I had it changed.
[20:43] >> So the priority and Kirkland
[20:46] is the Canadian flag? The
[20:48] protocol is different in
[20:49] Kirkland? I'm wondering about
[20:53] the protocol of the flags. That
[20:54] is intriguing. We tend to, with
[20:57] our flags, we try to follow the
[20:59] protocol of both levels of
[21:01] government that has been on a
[21:04] practice. I will speak to
[21:09] Michelle, I call him after the
[21:11] meeting.
[21:23] The Crossing on sources, the
[21:26] track Crossing, you call it a
[21:29] buck? I remember under the
[21:35] previous administration we had
[21:37] to pay to have it prepared. But
[21:40] it was that CN or CP said that
[21:44] they are still using it.
[21:53] It is either the REM that should
[21:55] pay, we should check it out.
[22:04] Just keeping the sign -- so I
[22:08] can sell it and might antique
[22:10] store. Yep
[22:13] >> Stephanie?
[22:21] >> Good evening. Approchez-vous
[22:25] du micro. Sorry, I love my notes
[22:28] at home. I came straight from
[22:29] work. So I will try to keep it
[22:31] brief. What I would like to
[22:34] bring forth our issues I have
[22:36] discussed with councillors.
[22:42] Because they are both
[22:44] accessibility and environmental
[22:46] issues. So if you allow me to
[22:48] just give some brief back ground
[22:53] I would like to start with a
[22:55] quote from Dr. Joseph Allen, he
[22:58] is the director of healthy
[22:59] buildings at Harvard School of
[23:02] Public Health and the quote is
[23:06] something like I do not have it
[23:08] word for word but it is your
[23:13] building manager has a greater
[23:16] impact on your health and your
[23:18] medical doctor. And on this note
[23:21] I want to bring that fragrance
[23:23] is said to be the new secondhand
[23:25] smoke. And it is an
[23:29] accessibility issue but also an
[23:30] environmental issue. So, a bit
[23:32] of background, a lot of times
[23:37] fragrances or chemically
[23:39] sensitive folks are saying
[23:40] there's a fragrance and I'm not
[23:42] feeling well. There's many
[23:44] different symptoms. Someone will
[23:45] say I am not wearing perfume.
[23:47] But fragrances a term that is
[23:49] used that it can represent many
[23:53] chemicals hidden. They do not
[23:56] necessarily have to be
[23:58] disclosed. A lot of them are
[23:59] protected under proprietary
[24:02] laws. It started sometimes in
[24:04] the 70s in the States. There's
[24:07] not much transparency but they
[24:10] can regroup carcinogens, hormone
[24:15] disrupters, and the effects of
[24:17] things like asthma and
[24:24] migraines.
[24:34] But all and all they are really
[24:37] a barrier. It is not well
[24:40] understood because they are data
[24:44] -- I would like the town, if it
[24:47] is possible, to consider having
[24:49] awareness around fragrance.
[24:55] There is a whole other passage
[24:57] that says if you are chemically
[25:01] sensitive, or if you go to
[25:06] health care in B.C. or even in
[25:09] the transport, it shows clearly
[25:11] fragrance free and also because
[25:14] they are known to lower studies
[25:16] have shown that they lower
[25:20] considerably indoor air quality.
[25:23] They affect humans, on humans,
[25:26] and they are often forever
[25:28] chemicals. They do not wash away
[25:30] they accumulate in the area, and
[25:32] the soils. So I thought that it
[25:36] would be a great place for
[25:39] Pointe-Claire to show
[25:41] leadership, especially in the
[25:43] province by the spaces it has
[25:47] jurisdiction over to have a
[25:49] fragrance free policy so to go
[25:51] back a bit, fragrance is, I did
[25:53] not really explain, but you can
[25:55] find it in skincare, you can
[25:57] find it in soaps, you can find
[25:59] it in devices that are
[26:01] deceptively known as air
[26:03] fresheners. But there is nothing
[26:05] from them that actually freshens
[26:08] the air. As a matter of fact
[26:09] they increase VOCs into the air
[26:12] and they create migraines for
[26:15] some, as smoke for others,
[26:17] exotic, Segura. So, I thought,
[26:20] you know, awareness, if the town
[26:24] could have unscented soap or as
[26:29] an access, so I guess that is
[26:31] one of my big backgrounds and my
[26:35] question and I know the
[26:36] councillors, I've spoken to
[26:38] supported as well, for the
[26:41] environment, and in terms of
[26:43] accessibility. The other issue,
[26:46] I am aware that they are both
[26:51] sensitive issues. The second one
[26:52] is fireworks, as someone who my
[26:56] background is conservation, and
[26:58] marine sciences, to me I know
[27:01] the science is clear that
[27:04] fireworks, they present an issue
[27:06] for people who have PTSD, for
[27:08] young kids, but also for
[27:10] wildlife, for many non human
[27:13] companions, but they are also,
[27:15] in terms of last summer, we had
[27:17] the smog. If places like
[27:20] Tremblant, who really depend on
[27:22] tourism, and Banff, and I think
[27:26] that we can follow suit easily.
[27:29] Especially backed with the
[27:31] studies. I sent one of my fellow
[27:33] citizens, because we talk a lot
[27:35] about that, there is a recent
[27:36] article that came in the CBC
[27:38] that shows that Québec has 30%,
[27:43] I can't remember the statistics,
[27:45] something like 30% above what is
[27:48] recommended by environmental
[27:50] doctors in terms of what is
[27:52] allowed. So they are already
[27:54] passing what is allowed. So I
[27:56] would like to know if we can
[27:57] bring forth alternatives such
[28:01] as, you know, I can't find the
[28:05] words. But there is a nice
[28:06] little lights that you release,
[28:09] it could be a nice community
[28:10] thing to do or to look into
[28:12] different alternatives, so that
[28:14] is it.
[28:15] >> Okay. Good points, all of
[28:18] them. As far as fragrance, I
[28:20] hear you. I can wear a fragrance
[28:22] that gives me a headache. And I
[28:23] know what you are getting at.
[28:25] The problem, I mean, using
[28:27] products, that is a good
[28:29] suggestion. I can't answer
[28:33] offhand for staff but it sounds
[28:35] like a doable suggestion. The
[28:38] enforcement, of course, is the
[28:39] other difficulty with that one.
[28:43] But it is an issue. I agree. But
[28:47] certainly, I think we can look
[28:48] into using unscented products as
[28:51] part of our modus operandi? Yes?
[28:57] Okay, and?
[28:59] >> Last week we said we had a
[29:02] discussion eventually.
[29:04] >> Is it possibility to have
[29:07] unscented products? Are they
[29:09] available to us?
[29:10] >> We have to look at it.
[29:13] >> I work a lot in that field,
[29:16] so there is also a lot of
[29:17] greenwashing out there but
[29:19] there's some locally made in
[29:21] Québec used in Pierrefonds
[29:24] library, for example has, or
[29:27] dollars has eco-friendly
[29:30] products.
[29:31] >> I must say that on the
[29:33] fireworks issue, your point is
[29:35] well taken. And we have debated
[29:38] that extensively as a Council.
[29:40] We are aware of that but it is a
[29:41] tough call. And the problem is
[29:43] the alternatives are not as good
[29:47] yet. That is not necessarily an
[29:49] excuse. But we don't seem to be
[29:51] as good, or as expensive. It has
[29:54] bearing on the equation but I
[29:55] will show you as a Council it is
[29:57] very close on that one. And it
[29:59] has bounced back and forth. And
[30:00] we are aware of that. And there
[30:02] are a lot of us that are
[30:06] conscious of that negative
[30:08] environmental impact.
[30:09] >> Thank you.
[30:14] >> -- Is that okay, Carl?
[30:19] >> Thank you for having me. I'm
[30:21] not very good in front of
[30:22] people. I just have two things
[30:23] to go ahead and kind of ask or
[30:27] say. I'm talking close enough?
[30:29] I'm a little tall. There we go.
[30:33] Okay. Thank you. So, like the
[30:36] gentlemen went ahead and pointed
[30:37] out previously, I walk a lot. I
[30:40] like to walk. I live,
[30:43] unfortunately, right next to a
[30:45] construction site. I walk pretty
[30:47] much every day. Not usually when
[30:49] it rains, but I walk almost
[30:50] every day. And I find when I
[30:52] walk on the sidewalks, like you
[30:55] went ahead and mentioned, the
[30:58] amount of dirt when it rains it
[31:00] turns into mud, and when it's
[31:02] hot outside, it turns and to
[31:04] dust. And unfortunately, the
[31:05] amount that is actually on the
[31:06] street, I can tell you that the
[31:08] street gets clean when the
[31:10] Pointe-Claire street cleaner
[31:11] comes around, but the sidewalks,
[31:12] it is rare that they go ahead
[31:14] and get cleaned at all. I am
[31:17] actually, I work for the City of
[31:19] Montréal, and I know that in our
[31:21] towns, are districts, whenever
[31:22] there is a huge construction
[31:24] project like this, they actually
[31:26] go ahead and there's a lot of
[31:28] the cities that do not own the
[31:30] equipment that cleans the
[31:31] streets, they run them, they
[31:32] leased them, so it is a
[31:34] possibility for these
[31:35] construction properties to
[31:36] actually lead slim as well. And
[31:37] a lot of construction projects
[31:39] actually do that in the City of
[31:41] Montréal. Where they are
[31:42] required to go ahead and have
[31:43] street cleaners and sidewalk
[31:45] cleaners come through. I
[31:46] understand the street cleaners,
[31:47] for example, in Pierrefonds, we
[31:49] have a big project and they come
[31:51] every night to go ahead and
[31:52] clean the street. But I know
[31:53] other places, other towns, they
[31:56] actually come on a Thursday, or
[31:57] once a week, or whatever, when
[31:59] they actually come and do the
[32:00] job. Because it is not getting
[32:02] done here. So that is why I was
[32:04] wondering why that is something
[32:05] that we can implement, I mean,
[32:07] these are huge developers that
[32:08] are with millions of dollars.
[32:11] And that is a drop in the bucket
[32:12] for them. But it is something
[32:14] that makes it a little bit more
[32:16] tolerant for us that if you are
[32:18] not going to take care of the
[32:19] sidewalk why of it open to
[32:21] pedestrians in the first place,
[32:22] right? That is my first point.
[32:25] And for my second point, it
[32:27] would also go back, I know it is
[32:29] a municipality by a law, you
[32:34] guys have not posted on the
[32:35] construction site in orange that
[32:37] they have to clean up after
[32:38] themselves. When you walk, and
[32:40] you can see this guy had lunch,
[32:43] and you can see his coffee cup
[32:44] on the neighbours lawn and you
[32:46] can see his beagle wrapper
[32:48] across from that and you can
[32:50] find during your walk, you can
[32:51] go ahead and piece together what
[32:53] he ate for lunch and it is a lot
[32:56] of garbage. My neighbours no
[32:58] longer walk to the park, they no
[33:01] longer walk near Baker because
[33:05] there's that much garbage that
[33:06] floats around next to the
[33:08] construction sites. I understand
[33:09] that it is the end of winter and
[33:11] snow melts. You go ahead and as
[33:14] someone who works with this, I
[33:19] work through the winter, and we
[33:21] didn't really have much of a
[33:22] winter to begin with. I think
[33:23] there's no excuse. You have
[33:27] almost 100 people a day that
[33:28] work on these construction
[33:29] sites, they are able to go ahead
[33:31] and litigate the task to go
[33:32] ahead and clean up this garbage
[33:34] to make living next to the
[33:35] construction site a little bit
[33:38] easier. I just want to know why
[33:39] that is enforced, since it is
[33:42] already a rule per Pointe-Claire
[33:43] that they cannot have lying
[33:45] around indoor construction zone.
[33:49] >> I would love for us to
[33:51] enforce that and I have no
[33:54] sympathy on that one. I really
[33:56] concur with you that it should
[33:57] not be happening. I am just
[34:00] wondering if we have the teeth
[34:01] to enforce that? Do we have the
[34:04] teeth to enforce the proper
[34:08] cleanup on a more regular basis?
[34:10] >> We look at that tomorrow to
[34:13] be sure that we can do it. It
[34:18] was on Hymus?
[34:20] >> I encourage you -- actually
[34:22] on Del Mar. I mean, you guys
[34:24] just started construction on the
[34:25] street today but if you take a
[34:27] look at the other side of the
[34:31] street, just that corner alone
[34:34] be careful. You don't want to
[34:35] get hit by something.
[34:37] >> I am always careful.
[34:39] >> You are saying careful in
[34:41] Montréal this is more diligently
[34:43] attended to?
[34:44] >> Yeah they actually have,
[34:47] especially for street cleaning,
[34:48] a lot of projects, like if they
[34:50] are big projects especially,
[34:52] where there is machinery that
[34:53] will be going on and off the
[34:54] street. You know, forklifts,
[34:56] jeans, everything. And these
[34:58] things have big money tires.
[34:59] And, you know, they bring mud
[35:01] from the construction site onto
[35:02] the street. And it is not
[35:04] something that you guys, in the
[35:06] summer last year, especially
[35:07] when it gets very does to you
[35:09] guys mandate the construction
[35:11] site to have a buggy with a
[35:12] trailer. And they sprint water
[35:14] down on the streets to go ahead
[35:15] and keep the dust down. I think
[35:17] that is more kind of so they do
[35:18] not dirty themselves. They do it
[35:23] for themselves but no one is
[35:24] saying they have to do it for
[35:25] citizens. It exists out there.
[35:27] It is not something new. It is
[35:29] definitely something to look
[35:30] into, I think.
[35:31] >> Thank you for your
[35:32] observations. I appreciate it.
[35:34] >> Have a good evening.
[35:36] >> Alex Russo?
[35:41] >> Hello. I will be brief and
[35:43] quick. There's four things I'm
[35:45] going to say. I will sum it up
[35:46] in one question in the end. And
[35:48] that is it. First of all I was,
[35:51] one team is transit because we
[35:52] know we are headed to massive
[35:54] transit issues in Pointe-Claire,
[35:56] especially with the REM. Have we
[35:58] started proactively opening up
[35:59] talks with the ARTM? All of the
[36:03] transit authorities to try to
[36:05] address this before it is a
[36:07] problem, as opposed to after?
[36:10] And in a previous council
[36:11] meeting, I actually suggested
[36:13] that we split the tax payments
[36:16] in two installments and actually
[36:20] -- I granted out the numbers
[36:24] with your own finance directors,
[36:27] so it looks like based on our
[36:29] budgets, we could actually
[36:30] easily afford it at this point.
[36:32] Maybe going to the surplus,
[36:34] maybe you lose another little
[36:35] project on the side or something
[36:36] along those lines, so that is
[36:38] something --
[36:39] >> For our own transit? So --
[36:47] >> For Pointe-Claire. So you
[36:50] pay, basically Montréal.
[36:52] >> So your tax bill, your annual
[36:56] tax and ways that you get, you
[37:00] can split it into four for the
[37:03] citizens. So some people can't
[37:05] pay 2400 outright it is tough
[37:07] for that. And it will cost the
[37:09] city about 600 K to do this.
[37:11] That is an insane amount of
[37:13] money. So we can do it.
[37:15] >> Slightly less and repairing
[37:17] our window. I hear you. Go
[37:20] ahead.
[37:21] >> Anyways, that was, it I was
[37:22] just following up on that one. I
[37:25] was just curious what was going
[37:26] on here. I also notice the new
[37:30] construction, I will call it
[37:32] whatever it is, they are putting
[37:34] it up there, it will have a
[37:35] direct impact on traffic where
[37:37] it could proceed ahead of time.
[37:38] I was hoping that we can
[37:40] instruct our traffic committee
[37:41] to proactively address that
[37:43] situation. Either, I don't know,
[37:45] one way southbound where the
[37:47] bike lane as a possibility, a no
[37:49] entry exit at the and directly,
[37:51] you might need to address
[37:52] traffic situations on St.
[37:54] John's, but I think that we need
[37:55] to get ahead with these
[37:58] problems. And the last thing is
[38:01] to make sure that we work
[38:03] towards much more active transit
[38:04] going towards the 2 am stations.
[38:06] So don't feel like we are we
[38:11] need a secured path to be there.
[38:13] Whatever you want. But it is not
[38:15] your car. Second of all, we also
[38:17] need security, runs because
[38:19] bikes will get stolen like no
[38:21] tomorrow. That's all I had.
[38:22] >> Okay. Well, the first one I
[38:27] would like to speak to is if you
[38:30] wanted -- okay. I voted last
[38:37] meeting with Alex and Michelle,
[38:39] the mayors of Dillard and
[38:41] Kirkland, because they have not
[38:43] specified St. Johns, St.
[38:45] Charles, and sources as public
[38:46] transit oriented corridors in
[38:49] their own budgeting, in their
[38:51] own documentation, which was
[38:54] astonishing, guys. We would
[38:56] certainly like for that to
[38:57] happen. I mean, one of the
[38:59] bigger issues with the REM is
[39:00] getting to it, and in
[39:02] Pointe-Claire, south in
[39:05] particular. You got the 20 and
[39:08] the 40, so as you well know
[39:11] there is an overpass. There are
[39:13] a couple of overpasses in the
[39:15] works which is good news, so we
[39:18] still need a ton of effort to
[39:20] make the north and south to the
[39:22] REM viable. And one of those
[39:24] suggestions is the extension to
[39:26] the jock bizarre corridor. And
[39:28] ideally, even making a public
[39:30] transit oriented corridor so
[39:31] that people from Pointe-Claire
[39:32] south could get straight to the
[39:34] REM from along that corridor.
[39:36] With the priority on transit and
[39:39] emergency vehicles. And that has
[39:41] been a discussion on our level.
[39:43] So I hear you loud and clear on
[39:45] that one. As for May would, yes,
[39:48] it is going to be an issue, and
[39:50] everyone is aware of that. You
[39:52] are quite right. And that is
[39:54] going to be something to be
[39:55] dealt with, and it is a
[39:56] challenge, absolutely, the
[39:58] traffic committee will have to
[39:59] work on that and we will have to
[40:00] figure it out big time. But the
[40:01] other option would have been as
[40:04] -- even worse, as far as traffic
[40:06] density on that corridor. So we
[40:08] are grappling with a difficult
[40:11] challenge, less of a challenge,
[40:12] but still a challenge,
[40:14] nonetheless. And I hear you loud
[40:15] and clear. Thank you.
[40:18] (inaudible)
[40:19] Tax splitting?
[40:21] >> I will speak to Mr. Seguin
[40:22] about that. It has been kicked
[40:24] around and Council. We have not
[40:26] resolved that one. It is a
[40:27] possibility, although the cost
[40:30] is a factor. Did you want to
[40:32] speak to that one, Councillor
[40:34] Stork?
[40:35] >> Just in reference to that,
[40:38] the procedure will definitely be
[40:40] an open book transparent event,
[40:42] we haven't heard much about it,
[40:45] we go to their website rarely to
[40:46] see if there's any updates, but
[40:48] that will be part of the
[40:49] procedure. All traffic will be
[40:50] looked at, as we mentioned,
[40:52] kicked around maybe one away, or
[40:54] two ways, it will be all of that
[40:57] that will be discussed as the
[40:59] project moves forward. I can
[41:01] tell you that it is one of the
[41:04] biggest issues and we will all
[41:07] stay on top of that, for sure.
[41:12] >> John Patrick? Yvon qu'Albert.
[41:20] Je m'excuse. Je m'excuse, Yvon.
[41:29] Thank you, Daniel.
[41:30] - Bonsoir. Où en est la ville
[41:36] avec les arbres envahissant les
[41:38] fils électriques? Est-ce que
[41:39] vous avez fait un relevé de tout
[41:42] ce qu'il y avait?
[41:43] - Pas assez. On peut faire plus,
[41:47] absolument. Vous parlez au sujet
[41:48] des fils électriques?
[41:51] - Non, non. Je demande: est-ce
[41:53] que la Ville a fait un relevé de
[41:55] tous les arbres qui envahissent
[41:57] les fils électriques?
[41:58] - Probablement que non, parce
[42:00] que c'est toujours le cas. Les
[42:03] arbres s'accordiez toujours.
[42:04] Alors, on ne sait jamais, mais
[42:05] on essaye.
[42:07] - Ça grandit. L'année dernière,
[42:10] à cette période-ci, on était
[42:12] trois, quatre, cinq jours sans
[42:14] électricité.
[42:15] - Oui, je me souviens.
[42:16] - On recommence cette année,
[42:17] demain, après-demain?
[42:18] - Non, c'est déjà commencé.
[42:21] C'est une job énorme. On ne veut
[42:24] pas couper les arbres pour
[42:25] aucune raison non plus. On veut
[42:26] préserver les arbres.
[42:27] - Pourquoi pas? Hydro-Québec à
[42:32] réalité qu'ils doivent les
[42:33] couper.
[42:34] - Oui.
[42:35] - Alors, pourquoi la Ville ne le
[42:36] fait pas?
[42:37] - Absolument. C'est absolument
[42:38] nécessaire. On le sait, ça. On
[42:41] fait de notre mieux.
[42:43] (---)
[42:44] Aussi est responsable. Hydro.
[42:47] - Moi, j'avais un arbre à 1
[42:49] mètre et demi d'un poteau, d'un
[42:51] poteau d'Hydro. 1 mètre et demi.
[42:57] Alors, ça m'a coûté plus de 3000
[42:59] dollars pour l'enlever. Est-ce
[43:02] que la Ville fait une subvention
[43:03] pour ça?
[43:04] - Bonne question. Ça dépend qui
[43:08] est le propriétaire de l'arbre.
[43:12] - C'est à la limite entre la
[43:15] ville et moi.
[43:17] - Oui, ça va être la prochaine
[43:19] question aussi. Si c'est votre
[43:20] arbre, c'est votre
[43:22] responsabilité.
[43:23] - Donc, on met la moitié sur la
[43:24] ville et la moitié chez moi.
[43:28] Notre chose: la facture
[43:32] électrique de la Ville doit être
[43:33] assez élevé avec tous les
[43:34] bâtiments qu'il y a. Avez-vous
[43:36] déjà pensé à mettre des panneaux
[43:39] photovoltaïque sur tous les toi
[43:47] des bâtiments de la ville?
[43:49] - C'est une bonne question.
[43:50] C'est une très bonne question.
[43:52] Madame Verdon, est-ce qu'on a
[43:53] parlé de ça?
[43:54] - Il y en a beaucoup, des
[43:56] bâtiments.
[43:57] - Oui, oui. On a beaucoup de
[43:58] bâtiments. Ce n'est pas une
[43:59] mauvaise idée. C'est le coût
[44:01] puis la possibilité de le faire.
[44:07] - Ce n'est pas un projet qui est
[44:09] amorcé présentement à la ville.
[44:10] C'est quelque chose qu'il
[44:11] faudrait regarder avec la
[44:13] rentabilité aussi. Mais pour
[44:14] l'instant, ce n'est pas un
[44:15] projet d'avoir des panneaux
[44:17] électriques. Mais je ne vous dis
[44:18] pas que ce ne serait pas quelque
[44:20] chose, dans le futur, qu'on va
[44:22] regarder.
[44:23] - Merci.
[44:24] - Merci, Monsieur. Maintenant,
[44:26] monsieur Kilpatrick, John
[44:28] Kilpatrick.
[44:40] >> Last month, you made some
[44:41] statements, and honestly --
[44:42] honestly, I was gonna come here
[44:43] and have a debate with you, but
[44:44] I'm not going to degrade myself
[44:45] to your level.
[44:56] >> That is a little harsh, sir.
[44:58] I don't think my level is
[45:00] degrading yourself. With all due
[45:04] respect, Mr. Kilpatrick, that
[45:06] exchange was filmed. That
[45:09] exchange was film. People can
[45:10] decide for themselves of that. I
[45:12] think your statement is not a
[45:13] correct one, and it is not a
[45:15] nice way to start a question.
[45:17] Please continue.
[45:21] >> So, I've been trying to get
[45:22] the city to listen to me for --
[45:25] about my three problems, since
[45:26] April of last year. It was clear
[45:29] that it was not getting anywhere
[45:31] with the administration, at the
[45:34] suggestion of my councillor, I
[45:36] came here to get you, Mister
[45:38] Mayor, and the Council to
[45:39] understand my problem. And to
[45:41] act on it, as I am told, this is
[45:44] my right. But that did not work,
[45:47] either. First, Mister Mayor, you
[45:50] said you didn't know anything.
[45:52] Then, you said that you didn't
[45:54] support --
[45:55] >> That is on a webcast, that is
[45:57] recorded, I did not say that.
[45:59] Please continue.
[46:00] >> Thank you. Then you said you
[46:08] supported whatever your staff
[46:09] had told me. Then you said that
[46:12] you didn't know anything about
[46:13] the email that I received that
[46:16] was originally sent out by your
[46:18] staff over your signature block.
[46:21] Then you said you did not know
[46:23] about the email. But then you
[46:26] didn't write it. Getting over, I
[46:30] finally gave up on February the
[46:33] 7th of 2024. I was done with the
[46:37] tree. Then I hear that in the
[46:40] March meeting, you called me out
[46:42] as a plant. I told you before
[46:46] that there was an email from
[46:48] you, my councillor had forwarded
[46:50] to me, I'm sorry -- I don't like
[46:57] this. They forwarded near answer
[47:02] to the question I had actually
[47:04] asked you. But that you never
[47:07] sent to me. I didn't know why
[47:09] you just didn't answer me
[47:11] yourself. Or have your staff
[47:13] answer for you. If you were too
[47:16] busy, but, to call me a plant?
[47:20] Are you going to apologize?
[47:22] >> Mr. Kilpatrick, what happened
[47:25] in all of that exchange was an
[47:27] email was given to you that was
[47:29] an internal email. So I was
[47:31] being asked where there are
[47:33] people who were being encouraged
[47:35] to asked questions by other
[47:37] councillors. You actually, just
[47:39] in your statement, suggested
[47:40] that your presence here is a
[47:42] suggestion on the part of your
[47:44] Councillor. So you are
[47:45] confirming, exactly what I just
[47:47] said. And your first, unofficial
[47:50] trip to the microphone was based
[47:51] on an email that was internal
[47:53] that was written not by me,
[47:55] which you stated it was written
[47:56] by me, and it was in fact
[47:59] written from my office by my
[48:02] assistant, and it was an update
[48:03] of an issue. And it wasn't any
[48:05] kind of conspiratorial email,
[48:07] but you made it and implied like
[48:09] it was as such. And you have
[48:11] been given that email, which was
[48:13] an internal email. So if ever
[48:15] there was an example of someone
[48:18] being sent to a microphone to be
[48:19] asked a question based on
[48:21] internal information, you are
[48:23] it, and I stand by that
[48:24] statement. And I would encourage
[48:27] all of our processes going
[48:28] forward to not reveal internal
[48:31] emails to citizens because it is
[48:33] not a helpful part of the
[48:34] process. It does not add for a
[48:36] positive result.
[48:39] >> Mister Mayor, you are
[48:41] implying that I did something.
[48:44] >> Councillor Cowan, I am still
[48:47] speaking. I am still speaking. I
[48:50] am the chair of this meeting.
[48:55] Councillor Cowan, I will
[48:57] continue to answer me. You have
[49:02] already been responded to on
[49:04] numerous occasions. You were
[49:07] responded to politely from this
[49:09] microphone at least three times.
[49:11] Two or three times in your
[49:14] visits. You have not been
[49:16] ignored. There is no need for
[49:17] another email or response.
[49:19] You've been spoken to politely
[49:21] and I have resorted to the
[49:23] expertise of my staff. My staff,
[49:25] who are professionals, have
[49:28] given a result, or a study of
[49:30] your tree. And I am confident of
[49:33] their advice. They are paid to
[49:38] do that, they are professionals,
[49:40] we are not in the habit of
[49:41] cutting trees unnecessarily. I
[49:43] have taken their advice. That is
[49:45] my answer then, that is my
[49:46] answer now.
[49:48] >> So you are not going to
[49:50] apologize?
[49:51] >> I'm not going to apologize,
[49:52] no. I encourage the citizens of
[49:55] Pointe-Claire to review yours
[49:57] and my exchanges at the
[49:59] microphone. It is webcast. And
[50:01] we will let them decide. Whether
[50:03] an apology from me is an order
[50:06] or vice versa.
[50:10] >> Okay. So I guess there's no
[50:13] point discussing my tree.
[50:16] >> You have been given the
[50:18] answer. Unless you have a
[50:20] different question pertaining to
[50:21] your tree.
[50:23] >> You've been saying since
[50:24] October, November.
[50:31] >> This is your second or third
[50:33] question. We are proceeding
[50:35] accordingly, and I would like to
[50:36] know what your next question is.
[50:38] You've already engaged the mayor
[50:40] on a couple of points, I will
[50:43] conduct another one.
[50:45] >> I've only ask you one
[50:46] question. You interrupted my
[50:48] speech.
[50:49] >> I didn't interrupt, you are
[50:50] correct to do a couple of times,
[50:51] you are allowed to continue.
[50:53] >> Thank you.
[51:05] >> This is a basic argument. In
[51:07] order to properly make my trees
[51:08] safe, I must either prune or get
[51:12] my tree as per the city or cut
[51:13] it down. The city accepts this
[51:17] fact. We are in agreement that
[51:20] the City tells me that I cannot
[51:22] choose for myself the best way.
[51:25] I have to make the trees safe,
[51:27] but I am not allowed by cutting
[51:29] it down. The city is forcing
[51:31] need to spend money to keep this
[51:33] tree, and make it safe for
[51:35] everybody else. I could keep the
[51:40] public safe and help the
[51:43] environment by cutting the tree
[51:44] down and replacing it with two
[51:47] saplings. But the city will not
[51:48] let me. Since I am responsible
[51:53] to make the trees safe, but I
[51:56] can't cut it down, the City is
[51:58] forcing me to -- this would cost
[52:01] me $1,800 to prepare the tree
[52:04] for the cabling, which would
[52:06] cost me another $3,000. In
[52:09] total, $4,800 versus $3,000 to
[52:12] have it cut down. If I trim the
[52:16] tree, every two years, it will
[52:18] cost me an additional $1,000 per
[52:21] two years. Which would cost me
[52:23] another $10,000 in total. Which
[52:30] would then be out of my pocket,
[52:32] and it would keep my neighbours
[52:35] safe. Isn't this keeping
[52:38] citizens safe, the city's
[52:42] responsibility? If I cut the
[52:43] tree down I will pay $3,000,
[52:46] when I replace it, with the two
[52:48] saplings, I will pay another
[52:50] $300, which will cost me another
[52:52] total of $3,000. There will be
[52:56] no need for any more pruning,
[52:57] further maintenance in my
[53:00] lifetime. So it will be 3300 for
[53:04] the next four years or so.
[53:22] Do you think it is fair to force
[53:23] one citizens to pay the cost to
[53:26] keep everyone else safe? When
[53:28] there is a cheaper option
[53:30] possible? If the City wants to
[53:31] keep the tree that badly
[53:33] shouldn't it be paying the
[53:35] additional cost? The City of
[53:40] Pointe-Claire is ordering me to
[53:43] spend my money to preserve it
[53:45] damaged tree on my property for
[53:47] the safety of others. So that
[53:49] people in general can benefit.
[53:55] Has the city mandated this
[53:57] action to any other resident? Or
[54:00] am I being singled out once
[54:03] again?
[54:05] >> Since the city is making a
[54:09] prison by forcing me to spend my
[54:12] money to preserve this tree, I
[54:14] would expect that the City would
[54:16] then be doing this for all
[54:19] unsafe items on residents and
[54:22] private property. For example,
[54:25] the windmill which is owned by
[54:26] the church, it is on the
[54:28] church's property, which is in
[54:30] dire need for repairs. As it is
[54:34] unsafe. Why is the City willing
[54:36] to put $1 million of taxpayers
[54:39] money there and not force the
[54:42] church to put the entire bill?
[54:45] As you are mandating need to do.
[54:52] In closing, I reviewed all of my
[54:54] notes, emails, and videos. I was
[54:57] wondering, why do you have the
[54:58] right to single out a person and
[55:00] accuse this person of being a
[55:02] plant by anyone else just
[55:07] because you were criticized? I
[55:11] was also wondering what the rest
[55:13] of the city, including Council,
[55:15] and the administrations think
[55:17] about you suppressing free
[55:20] speech when you don't happen to
[55:23] like what is being discussed at
[55:25] the council meeting?
[55:28] >> I think that is not a fair
[55:30] suggestion. This is your third
[55:32] attempt on the same issue.
[55:34] Clearly this is not a
[55:36] suppression of your expression
[55:37] at all. You have had a freedom
[55:39] of expression, we are done, I am
[55:45] responding, we are done, I am
[55:47] responding. You have been
[55:48] allowed to speak quite
[55:50] extensively. Now I am
[55:51] responding. This is my response.
[55:55] You don't get to rebut. I am
[55:57] going to answer but you do not
[55:59] get to rebut. You've asked your
[56:01] questions and I am now
[56:02] answering. There is no rebuttal.
[56:05] All right? So, first of all, you
[56:09] had ample opportunity to express
[56:13] yourself regarding your tree.
[56:17] You are still refusing to accept
[56:18] the city's response which was
[56:20] given to you by my arborists and
[56:23] more than one trained expert.
[56:25] You had outside opinions, all of
[56:27] them are the same, people want
[56:29] to keep the tree alive, people
[56:30] want to keep the tree alive
[56:32] because it is not fair to cut
[56:33] trees down when they are not
[56:36] dead. So we try and keep the
[56:38] simplest way to keep our
[56:39] environment healthy is to not
[56:40] cut down trees. To keep our
[56:44] environment cleaner and to have
[56:46] trees, they help us survive. So
[56:47] it is the goal of an arborist to
[56:50] decide whether to cut a tree or
[56:52] not and whether it's life should
[56:53] be terminated and professionals
[56:55] do that. They advise us, I
[56:58] listen to them. You are not
[56:59] being singled out, this is a
[57:01] rule that applies to citizens
[57:03] across the entire city and we
[57:04] are not in the habit of cutting
[57:06] a tree down because it might
[57:08] have a wound or something on it.
[57:13] I suspect the arborist are
[57:15] trying to preserve trees as long
[57:17] as they can without cutting them
[57:20] down. You are not being singled
[57:21] out. As for the archdiocese, we
[57:25] have tried to get the
[57:27] archdiocese to repair the window
[57:28] and we continue to try and do
[57:31] that. We have solicited the help
[57:33] of other variables of government
[57:35] to do that as well. So it is not
[57:37] like we haven't tried and we
[57:38] continue to do so. Thank you,
[57:41] Mr. Kilpatrick. Thank you very
[57:44] much. This is the third I just
[57:49] answered your question. This is
[57:54] your third trip and your third
[57:57] visit to the microphone and
[57:59] succession meetings with respect
[58:02] to all the other citizens. That
[58:04] is hardly polite of you and
[58:06] hopefully that was shown on
[58:08] tape. It just goes to character.
[58:12] Paul Atkinson?
[58:20] >> Good evening.
[58:28] I have a council meeting about
[58:30] six months ago where some
[58:31] residents were asked to meet
[58:32] with the City to discuss ways to
[58:34] restore our quality of life
[58:35] following the inflation to town
[58:38] houses behind our houses. Out of
[58:40] that meeting came an offer from
[58:41] the City to install hedges along
[58:43] the back of our properties or
[58:45] have two trees get into us to
[58:48] plant in our backyards. When the
[58:51] arborists came to speak to us
[58:52] about this in November, she was
[58:54] unaware that the hedge was an
[58:55] option. Then last week we
[58:59] received emails from the
[59:00] arborists saying that we have
[59:02] until April 5th, and there is no
[59:07] mention of the hedge. And nobody
[59:11] has gotten back to me. It is
[59:15] difficult for residents to say
[59:16] if they want the trees, if they
[59:18] don't know what the hedge option
[59:20] is. In addition to that, one of
[59:21] the issues with the trees is
[59:23] that it seems quite large, and
[59:25] it is questionable and viable
[59:26] for our properties given the
[59:29] proximity that they will be to
[59:30] power lines. So, what we want to
[59:36] know is is the hedge still an
[59:38] option? If so, what kind of
[59:40] hedges it, what would be the
[59:42] height when it is installed,
[59:44] right now there is a three foot
[59:45] tall hedge that was installed on
[59:47] the properties to ensure
[59:49] privacy, but it is completely
[59:50] useless. And we also want to
[59:52] know, is this in addition to the
[59:54] trees or is it either, for?
[59:58] Because from the Councillors
[59:59] email, it seemed as though it
[1:00:01] was either or. So, you know? If
[1:00:05] we select trees in three days
[1:00:08] time, does not mean that we are
[1:00:09] no longer allowed to have hedges
[1:00:12] installed? So, there's just a
[1:00:15] lot of things that are going
[1:00:16] unanswered, and there's a very
[1:00:18] tight deadline.
[1:00:19] >> Okay. I hear you. Madame
[1:00:23] Verdon?
[1:00:24] >> Okay, the tree or hedges or
[1:00:28] two different things. We have
[1:00:30] people choosing edges, so maybe
[1:00:33] at your house, they weren't
[1:00:35] aware. Because we have the list
[1:00:36] of people who chose one or the
[1:00:38] other. I know the contact people
[1:00:43] with the trees right now, and we
[1:00:45] are in the process for the price
[1:00:47] of the hedge. It would be small,
[1:00:50] three or four feet, because it
[1:00:51] would be higher, there's the
[1:00:55] chance of survival that would be
[1:00:56] not good, and we just want to
[1:00:58] remember that we will provide
[1:00:59] the hedge. And you know, we
[1:01:02] can't go in the yard of people
[1:01:04] planting them. So we would
[1:01:06] provide the hedge.
[1:01:07] >> So would be delivering three
[1:01:09] foot tall hedges?
[1:01:10] >> Three or four.
[1:01:14] >> Okay. The ones are installed
[1:01:17] along the property line --
[1:01:19] >> Could you get closer?
[1:01:20] >> The ones that were installed
[1:01:22] at the property line, they were
[1:01:23] three feet tall. Right now, they
[1:01:24] are maybe four, five. They are
[1:01:26] very sparse. It just seems like
[1:01:29] it is -- like I said, the one on
[1:01:34] the ground side is useless. I
[1:01:35] have very low confidence and it
[1:01:37] being provided any hedges idle.
[1:01:43] You don't seem to have much
[1:01:44] confidence yourself.
[1:01:45] >> No, you know, we can provide
[1:01:49] the amount, and the height of
[1:01:52] the hedge, that we can, and --
[1:01:56] because we cannot, you know? It
[1:01:59] depends on the size, so it is
[1:02:00] difficult to explain for
[1:02:02] everybody. So it is on a case by
[1:02:04] case.
[1:02:05] >> Sorry -- I don't understand.
[1:02:08] >> So the size and the amount of
[1:02:10] the hedge, depending on the
[1:02:11] space we have in the yard,
[1:02:13] basically. So which one would be
[1:02:15] the better size, for the better,
[1:02:17] you know, quality. So we want to
[1:02:20] find the best quality for the
[1:02:21] citizens, basically.
[1:02:22] >> So when will we know? Because
[1:02:24] we have to make this decision in
[1:02:25] two days if we want trees or
[1:02:27] hedges, and we don't know what
[1:02:28] the hedge is.
[1:02:30] >> We are presenting the offer,
[1:02:32] you, know we are waiting for it.
[1:02:34] >> So you won't have it in time
[1:02:35] for the deadline of the trees?
[1:02:37] >> No, probably not.
[1:02:38] >> So you are forcing the hands
[1:02:41] of people to make a decision --
[1:02:44] >> The arborists from the city,
[1:02:46] people are asking if they want
[1:02:48] to hedge or the trees.
[1:02:49] >> Multiple neighbours spoke to
[1:02:52] the arborist and told her that
[1:02:53] they wanted hedges, and were
[1:02:55] told that she knew nothing about
[1:02:57] the edges.
[1:02:59] >> Okay.
[1:03:01] >> Okay?
[1:03:03] >> So you need to know before
[1:03:06] missing out on the trees whether
[1:03:07] you are getting a hedge -- so
[1:03:09] can we get a decision on the
[1:03:10] hedge before they can
[1:03:13] relinquish, not get the trees?
[1:03:14] Because of the can get the hedge
[1:03:15] they will opt for the trees.
[1:03:17] >> I think it is something we
[1:03:18] have to discuss after City
[1:03:20] Council with the citizens
[1:03:21] directly to have all the
[1:03:23] information.
[1:03:24] >> But they have four or five
[1:03:26] days, we don't have time.
[1:03:27] >> But I don't have all of the
[1:03:28] information with me right now.
[1:03:30] >> Okay --
[1:03:32] >> I don't see how we could
[1:03:33] possibly schedule something.
[1:03:34] This came out on March 27th.
[1:03:37] >> Well we can find out whether
[1:03:38] you are getting the hedges
[1:03:39] pretty quickly. If you could
[1:03:40] send me an email tomorrow, we
[1:03:42] could try to follow up on
[1:03:44] whether you will get hedges or
[1:03:45] not. If you won't get hedges,
[1:03:48] you will opt for trees, I'm
[1:03:49] assuming?
[1:03:50] >> It is still unclear if the
[1:03:51] trees are viable, given the size
[1:03:52] of the trees that are being
[1:03:53] offered. And the powerlines that
[1:03:55] we have on our properties. It is
[1:03:58] unclear if these would be a good
[1:03:59] fit for our yards.
[1:04:00] >> So you need an arborist.
[1:04:04] Yeah.
[1:04:05] >> Yes, we need answers.
[1:04:06] >> I hear you. You've made a
[1:04:08] good point. We will get on it. I
[1:04:12] will get on it first thing
[1:04:13] tomorrow.
[1:04:15] >> All right, thank you.
[1:04:17] >> Thank you, sir. Susan Weaver?
[1:04:30] >> Okay. Last month's council
[1:04:33] meeting, you falsely accused me
[1:04:35] of being planted at Council
[1:04:38] meetings by councillors. You not
[1:04:40] only accused me, but also
[1:04:43] accused another citizen as being
[1:04:45] planted. You accuse councillors
[1:04:47] of planting citizens going back
[1:04:50] to the suburban article in
[1:04:52] January. Accusations without any
[1:04:55] real proof. Hearsay is not
[1:04:57] proof. I would like to have
[1:04:59] something in writing from you to
[1:05:01] backup your accusations about
[1:05:02] me. I like things in writing.
[1:05:06] And Mr. Tremblay knows that now.
[1:05:07] Put it in writing!
[1:05:10] >> Is that your question, Miss
[1:05:12] Weaver? Is there a question and
[1:05:14] there? Or you just hurdling an
[1:05:16] accusation? I'm just wondering
[1:05:17] if there is a question.
[1:05:18] >> That is not an accusation.
[1:05:20] That is a statement.
[1:05:21] >> How is that an accusation?
[1:05:24] >> I responded politely and
[1:05:27] concisely last meeting. You had
[1:05:29] information that was internal.
[1:05:30] And therefore, the only way you
[1:05:32] got that internal information
[1:05:34] was how, Miss Weaver? I pointed
[1:05:38] out, same with the email with
[1:05:40] Mr. Kilpatrick.
[1:05:41] >> I want proof! Proof in
[1:05:44] writing!
[1:05:45] >> There is no necessary proof
[1:05:46] in writing. We are in a council
[1:05:50] meeting. Miss Weaver, I am
[1:05:52] answering quite clearly. I
[1:05:54] referred to you as a --
[1:05:57] >> You are accusing me!
[1:05:59] >> Ms. Weaver, you did it, it
[1:06:01] was in a council meeting, it is
[1:06:03] on record. You spoke to internal
[1:06:06] knowledge at a meeting about
[1:06:07] what was said and a caucus
[1:06:09] meeting. You had that
[1:06:12] information. And I pointed that
[1:06:13] out to you. Now the only thing
[1:06:15] that I said, Miss Weaver -- Miss
[1:06:18] Weaver, Miss Weaver, this is --
[1:06:20] Miss Weaver, this is not a
[1:06:23] debate. It is not right to hurl,
[1:06:26] you don't control this
[1:06:28] discussion, Miss Weaver. I am
[1:06:29] telling you clearly and
[1:06:31] concisely. I am the chair, and I
[1:06:34] can actually shut this down at
[1:06:36] anytime I would like. And I will
[1:06:37] tell you right now, I would like
[1:06:39] to ask everybody to refer to
[1:06:41] last council meeting, the
[1:06:43] response to Miss Weaver was
[1:06:44] concise, and exactly true, and
[1:06:46] there was nothing illegitimate
[1:06:47] or true about it. Please review
[1:06:49] it, I responded to you quite
[1:06:51] clearly about her knowledge
[1:06:54] regarding a newspaper and
[1:06:55] funding of a newspaper and an
[1:06:57] internal caucus discussion. She
[1:06:59] somehow knew about it. How did
[1:07:01] she know about that? I pointed
[1:07:02] it out to her. It was her own --
[1:07:06] madam, we have answered. You
[1:07:09] asked and answered that. That
[1:07:10] has been answered last council
[1:07:12] meeting. Thank you Miss Weaver.
[1:07:13] >> Thank you, I have all the
[1:07:15] access to information. 2021 to
[1:07:19] 2022 --
[1:07:20] >> Thank you very much, like Mr.
[1:07:22] Kilpatrick, we already discussed
[1:07:23] this issue, okay?
[1:07:24] >> So you can't write a letter?
[1:07:26] >> Miss Weaver, I've answered
[1:07:28] your question.
[1:07:29] >> I would really like to have
[1:07:31] proof, though.
[1:07:32] >> It is already on record. It
[1:07:33] is taped and filmed and
[1:07:34] everybody can watch it. Thank
[1:07:36] you Miss Weaver. Thank you Miss
[1:07:38] Weaver. I refer all these
[1:07:40] citizens -- Miss Weaver, excuse
[1:07:41] me, I am going to actually ask
[1:07:43] you -- thank you very much.
[1:07:45] David Johnston?
[1:07:52] >> Hello everyone. I was out of
[1:07:58] town last month, and I just saw
[1:08:01] a video recording of last
[1:08:04] month's meeting, which was
[1:08:07] remarkably cordial. At the end
[1:08:10] of it, I was surprised and
[1:08:17] heartened and a bit dismayed to
[1:08:18] see the revelation that there is
[1:08:20] going to be some sort of public
[1:08:23] tender for some sort of new
[1:08:24] public consultation. Perhaps
[1:08:28] related to Fairview forest. As
[1:08:33] many of you know, the
[1:08:35] consultations that we've held so
[1:08:37] far have we'll avoided talking
[1:08:48] directly with some of the
[1:08:49] strongest issues of contention
[1:08:51] in Pointe-Claire we never had a
[1:08:56] proper discussion of Fairview
[1:08:58] forest. We've never had a proper
[1:09:01] discussion of development on the
[1:09:05] Cadillac Fairview mull property.
[1:09:09] We have never had the legality
[1:09:13] of the new metropolitan urban
[1:09:18] plan injected into the
[1:09:20] discussion. So that you can see
[1:09:24] separation of fact from fiction
[1:09:25] as to what Pointe-Claire can, or
[1:09:27] can't do within the limits or
[1:09:29] parameters of metropolitan or
[1:09:34] provincial law.
[1:09:42] The last consultation was about
[1:09:44] beg paths on Saint-Jean. Of all
[1:09:47] the innocuous stuff they could
[1:09:48] come up with, we are talking
[1:09:50] about bike paths on Saint-Jean?
[1:09:56] Other cities in the West Island
[1:09:58] finish their consultations. They
[1:10:00] had their plans in place. But it
[1:10:02] looks like we are still spinning
[1:10:04] our wheels and nothing will be
[1:10:08] resolved before the next
[1:10:10] election.
[1:10:15] I had heard that this was a
[1:10:19] possibility spending extra money
[1:10:22] beyond what we spend already. I
[1:10:25] don't know how much that has
[1:10:26] been or the consultations that
[1:10:28] we have now. But, I am hoping
[1:10:35] that it will not just be a
[1:10:37] session like the ones that we
[1:10:38] have had before. Where we post
[1:10:44] an invitation to a meeting and
[1:10:47] 50 people show up. Many of them
[1:10:50] are repeat participants. And we
[1:10:57] have an exercise like an ancient
[1:11:00] Rome where an end of an hour and
[1:11:02] a half it is thumbs up to the
[1:11:04] gladiator or thumbs down. And
[1:11:07] without any proper
[1:11:10] accompaniment, of information
[1:11:13] that will help reduce in foreign
[1:11:19] public opinion on the issue. As
[1:11:22] you know, I mentioned before one
[1:11:24] of the problems with municipal
[1:11:26] consultations is that people
[1:11:28] basically are not prone to want
[1:11:30] to participate in them. In 2017,
[1:11:34] the upset is polling firm found
[1:11:36] that 91% of Canadians said that
[1:11:37] they would never leave their
[1:11:39] house. To participate in this
[1:11:42] public consultation. Why not?
[1:11:46] 55% said that they feel if you
[1:11:47] strong ways is dominate the
[1:11:50] discussions. And 38% said they
[1:11:52] feel shy about expressing my
[1:11:55] opinion at a public forum. I
[1:12:00] asked before if the city would
[1:12:03] be willing given these steaks
[1:12:08] the
[1:12:14] -- around the REM and Fairview
[1:12:17] forest and the small property,
[1:12:18] whether we could have something
[1:12:20] exceptional where we could reach
[1:12:22] out through a direct mailing of
[1:12:24] some sort to hundreds of people
[1:12:26] in Pointe-Claire representing
[1:12:29] the population. To solicit their
[1:12:34] views and have them also be sent
[1:12:38] some kind of information package
[1:12:40] that would provide them with
[1:12:43] information that would help them
[1:12:45] come to some determination. I
[1:12:47] think that you said if there is
[1:12:50] money in the budget, we will
[1:12:52] look at that. So have we decided
[1:12:54] yet whether it would be another
[1:12:56] session like the other ones? Or
[1:12:58] will this be an exceptional
[1:13:02] consultation given the
[1:13:03] exceptional nature --
[1:13:04] >> What is the Fairview forest
[1:13:07] one. Good question, Fairview
[1:13:10] forest one, the problem we had
[1:13:11] with the Fairview forest one was
[1:13:14] the existing consultant did not
[1:13:16] come to tender as quickly as we
[1:13:18] would've liked for that session
[1:13:20] that had to be the gap that had
[1:13:23] to be filled. So it how to go to
[1:13:26] tender to get other consultants
[1:13:27] to bid to conduct that session.
[1:13:30] That is what happened with that
[1:13:33] one. It would be conducted, I
[1:13:36] suspect, in the same manner as
[1:13:38] the previous ones.
[1:13:40] >> Sorry to hear that.
[1:13:42] >> Mr. Johnson, if he would stop
[1:13:44] intervening while I am speaking,
[1:13:45] I would like to say from what
[1:13:47] I've heard from a lot of the
[1:13:48] participants in the process it
[1:13:50] has been a positive process. My
[1:13:52] staff has told me that it has
[1:13:53] been a positive process. It has
[1:13:55] not been the same old characters
[1:13:56] every time. It has actually been
[1:13:58] different characters quite
[1:14:00] frequently. And it has been
[1:14:01] quite a successful event where a
[1:14:04] lot of these consultations have
[1:14:05] been very positive and well
[1:14:08] conducted. The citizens have
[1:14:09] come away satisfied which in the
[1:14:12] end, is the objective. And if
[1:14:13] the citizens are happy, unlike
[1:14:15] yourself, Mr. Johnson, people
[1:14:17] have the citizens that have been
[1:14:18] involved have come back and give
[1:14:19] us positive feedback. Whether
[1:14:21] they are being done quickly
[1:14:26] enough, no. I would much prefer
[1:14:28] this process to be a Quaker one
[1:14:30] and a vast repeatedly to
[1:14:32] expedite this process. And I
[1:14:33] agree with you 100%. I wish it
[1:14:35] was done more quickly and we
[1:14:38] have been after staff to try to
[1:14:41] push the consultants to get this
[1:14:43] process along the way. As for
[1:14:47] the legitimacy of the process,
[1:14:49] and whether it works, very
[1:14:52] successful process was conducted
[1:14:53] in Kirkland where they did not
[1:14:55] do any direct mailing. They did
[1:14:57] appeal to the citizens and there
[1:14:59] are numerous examples of cities
[1:15:00] across North America that
[1:15:04] conduct consultations or citizen
[1:15:09] arrangements that have been
[1:15:11] quite successful. I feel you are
[1:15:13] negative and putting a negative
[1:15:16] part over the whole process. It
[1:15:18] has been a positive process. If
[1:15:20] people participate and we come
[1:15:21] up with a viable result that
[1:15:23] people except it is a very good
[1:15:25] process. So I do not agree with
[1:15:27] your assessment. As for the
[1:15:31] PMAD. It cannot completely alter
[1:15:34] consultations because it is a
[1:15:36] negotiable document. Where it is
[1:15:38] a proposal. It is not a final
[1:15:42] document. So you cannot allow it
[1:15:43] to subsequently alter your whole
[1:15:45] public consultation because the
[1:15:47] document itself is not final. So
[1:15:48] you don't know what the end
[1:15:49] result is going to be so it
[1:15:51] shouldn't take the result of the
[1:15:53] consultation. So that is the
[1:15:54] best answer I can give you for
[1:15:55] the multitude of topics that you
[1:15:57] preferred to -- you have one or
[1:15:59] two more, maybe one more? A
[1:16:02] potential topic of conversation?
[1:16:03] >> I do. After the fourth
[1:16:05] consultation in the city
[1:16:07] documents, there was talk of
[1:16:08] forming a city citizens
[1:16:10] committee that would help the
[1:16:14] city advise the City on public
[1:16:18] consultations going forward, and
[1:16:20] wondering what happened to that
[1:16:22] committee -- because I have a
[1:16:23] few points that I think I would
[1:16:25] like to propose be included in
[1:16:29] any discussion that we would
[1:16:32] have on Fairview forest. The
[1:16:34] main one being that I do not
[1:16:35] think that we can consult on it
[1:16:39] in isolation. I think any
[1:16:41] consultation on the Fairview
[1:16:43] forest has to be in conjunction
[1:16:46] with the small property, because
[1:16:50] I see them as two parts of a
[1:16:54] whole. Of one development
[1:16:56] project that has been presented
[1:16:58] by Cadillac Fairview for the two
[1:17:01] properties. The mile property,
[1:17:02] and the, so-called John Abbott
[1:17:05] lands, or Fairview forest, or am
[1:17:07] you too. At the same time, I
[1:17:11] think it's important that a
[1:17:13] number of other dimensions are
[1:17:17] off to the debate. One would be
[1:17:19] a legal summary of the case in
[1:17:24] Québec Superior Court, the
[1:17:28] lawsuit, I know that sometimes
[1:17:29] people say, well, we can talk
[1:17:32] about it because it's before the
[1:17:33] courts, but the depositions, the
[1:17:36] statement and claim of Cadillac
[1:17:38] Fairview is a public document.
[1:17:41] The statement and defensive
[1:17:42] Pointe-Claire is a public
[1:17:44] document. It would be nice if
[1:17:46] the consultation on Fairview
[1:17:49] forest and M U one had, with it,
[1:17:52] a component that summarized
[1:17:55] where we are in the courts. What
[1:17:57] is the allegation. At the same
[1:18:00] time, there is the legality with
[1:18:02] respect to the Québec Ministry
[1:18:03] of Environment. Which, I think,
[1:18:07] is issuing a certificate of
[1:18:10] authorization to Cadillac
[1:18:11] Fairview to build. Is that true?
[1:18:13] I mean, we would want to know
[1:18:16] that. We would also want to know
[1:18:19] a couple of other things.
[1:18:20] >> You are implying things that
[1:18:21] aren't necessarily the case, Mr.
[1:18:23] Johnson. There's discussion
[1:18:24] about the wetlands, if that is
[1:18:25] what you are referring to. There
[1:18:30] is, as referring to your -- I
[1:18:33] like your comment about Mu1 and
[1:18:36] Mu2 and the relationship between
[1:18:38] the two. I completely concur,
[1:18:40] and Mr. Johnson, that was your
[1:18:41] last one, by the way. And I
[1:18:44] completely -- Mr. Johnson, no,
[1:18:47] Mr. Johnson -- you have had
[1:18:49] ample time.
[1:18:50] >> Okay, who can I give, is it
[1:18:53] to you or to the DG, or somebody
[1:18:55] else in Pointe-Claire, a list of
[1:18:58] the five things, I have
[1:19:01] mentioned to, I guess you will
[1:19:02] not allow me to do the next
[1:19:04] three, but I think there's five
[1:19:06] things that need to be a part of
[1:19:09] any policy document around the
[1:19:15] future --
[1:19:16] >> If you have a document that
[1:19:17] will not dominate the whole
[1:19:18] question period I would suggest
[1:19:20] that Mr. Johnson, Mr. Johnston,
[1:19:24] Mr. Johnston. You've had your
[1:19:26] last one.
[1:19:30] >> You're not even letting me
[1:19:32] talk.
[1:19:33] >> I have let you talk. Have I
[1:19:34] not let you speak? No, no -- I
[1:19:37] have not let you -- listen, Mr.
[1:19:40] Johnson, that is hardly conduct
[1:19:42] becoming of a gentlemen.
[1:19:51] I will speak to Mr. Johnson's
[1:19:52] point which I think is an
[1:19:53] important one. I agree that I
[1:19:56] don't think you can divide
[1:19:58] speaking of the green space from
[1:20:00] development. I think that the
[1:20:01] two go intricately hand in hand.
[1:20:08] One of the things that has been
[1:20:10] ignored in all of this
[1:20:12] discussion between the Kirkland
[1:20:14] project which is the old mark
[1:20:16] frost project and the potential
[1:20:19] development of Mu1. What I find
[1:20:21] intriguing about
[1:20:27] --
[1:20:36] what I find is interesting about
[1:20:38] the entire proposals pertaining
[1:20:40] to the large developments is
[1:20:42] instead of creating an
[1:20:43] artificial green space, which
[1:20:45] some of them proposed to do,
[1:20:48] where they plant trees and
[1:20:50] cement boxes, where trees are
[1:20:52] not any real environment, a real
[1:20:53] ecological environment, and will
[1:20:55] die in a ten or 15-year
[1:20:57] timeframe, it is better to keep
[1:20:59] natural green space, which is
[1:21:01] always preferable instead of
[1:21:02] making a small temporary one. I
[1:21:05] would wait prefer these
[1:21:07] developments to go up, Mu1, and
[1:21:11] the Cadillac Fairview, and they
[1:21:13] already have a perfect, natural
[1:21:15] green space to service that
[1:21:16] extensive development. Those two
[1:21:18] extensive developments. It is
[1:21:19] called the Fairview forest. And
[1:21:21] it is a natural green space
[1:21:23] already sitting there that does
[1:21:24] not need to be touched, it will
[1:21:26] service to extremely large
[1:21:29] development projects. So,
[1:21:31] there's absolutely no need to
[1:21:32] touch that, and yes, we should
[1:21:35] speak about that forest in
[1:21:36] conjunction with development.
[1:21:38] Mr. Johnston is completely
[1:21:39] correct. And they have,,
[1:21:45] according to plans, anyone does
[1:21:47] get developed, we have a natural
[1:21:48] green space that is existing, it
[1:21:51] costs nothing, and it will make
[1:21:53] everybody happy. I see no reason
[1:21:54] why that shouldn't happen, and I
[1:21:56] would love that to be discussed
[1:21:58] in our public consultation. I
[1:22:00] also think of public
[1:22:02] consultation should refer to
[1:22:05] other green spaces in
[1:22:07] Pointe-Claire that we have not
[1:22:08] discussed that should be
[1:22:10] discussed. Mr. Johnston is
[1:22:12] correct. We should, I don't
[1:22:14] think that the consultation is
[1:22:16] complete without referring to
[1:22:17] those issues, unfortunately he's
[1:22:18] no longer with us, but I concur
[1:22:20] with a lot of what he has just
[1:22:21] said. Councillor Stork, did you
[1:22:23] want to speak?
[1:22:25] >> Yes. Just to clarify a couple
[1:22:27] of small things. What he is
[1:22:30] referring to is not a tender. It
[1:22:32] will be presented to Council and
[1:22:34] Council will review that. So
[1:22:36] nothing is written in stone at
[1:22:38] this point. Secondly, the
[1:22:40] reference, for clarity once
[1:22:42] again, it is in the process as
[1:22:44] we speak. The Amar's has asked
[1:22:46] us for the initial comments,
[1:22:48] always being proposed. We have
[1:22:49] sent them back. The review
[1:22:52] process is ongoing. By the end
[1:22:54] of 2025, we will get a new P
[1:22:57] map. And the first page of the
[1:23:00] map, you go on line, all
[1:23:05] municipalities, all
[1:23:07] municipalities must adhere to
[1:23:08] the PMAD and integrate them into
[1:23:11] the zoning bylaws. So, once the
[1:23:13] PMAD is set, and I will link the
[1:23:15] last PMAD, it is not going to be
[1:23:18] fake minimum's. It is going to
[1:23:19] be hard at minimum some have to
[1:23:21] be respected. That information
[1:23:23] that I have interpreted. So it
[1:23:25] will be a different ball game.
[1:23:27] In reference to everything else,
[1:23:29] Fairview forest, get the time,
[1:23:32] we all care about the
[1:23:33] environment, when things are
[1:23:36] represented, we will digest them
[1:23:37] and they are in an open and
[1:23:39] transparent process.
[1:23:41] >> So the PMAD is a negotiable
[1:23:45] document, I've already spoken to
[1:23:47] the mayors of Kirkland and
[1:23:48] mayors of Dollard. And they have
[1:23:50] both been very satisfied with
[1:23:53] the response to their counter
[1:23:57] proposals. They pushed back on
[1:24:01] the height and density
[1:24:02] requirements and the PMAD has
[1:24:04] actually been lowered. Other
[1:24:06] cities have actually negotiated
[1:24:08] and lowered the initial
[1:24:10] specifications of the PMAD. So
[1:24:12] it is an ongoing process. So, my
[1:24:15] point with Mr. Johnson was, it
[1:24:17] is not cast in stone. So, it
[1:24:19] should not have any determining
[1:24:23] bearing on our consultation.
[1:24:25] Because it is not a firm
[1:24:27] document. We cannot predict the
[1:24:29] future or what the PMAD will
[1:24:30] come out and say. So we cannot
[1:24:33] be arranging our whole urban
[1:24:35] planning based on something that
[1:24:36] is still not official. It is not
[1:24:38] in place. So, Andre climate?
[1:24:52] - Bonjour. J'habite au huit golf
[1:24:55] Pointe-Claire. Je vais vous
[1:24:56] parler de mon voisin immédiat,
[1:24:59] qui est la six. La maison est en
[1:25:01] vente ça fait plus d'1 an. Là,
[1:25:03] présentement, il y a un nouveau
[1:25:04] propriétaire qui a fait une
[1:25:06] demande d'urbanisme pour changer
[1:25:09] les statuts de propriété ou pour
[1:25:12] faire une maison dotée. Est-ce
[1:25:14] que vous êtes au courant de ça?
[1:25:17] - Oui, Harper. Mais je pense que
[1:25:19] je ne suis pas permis de parler
[1:25:21] au sujet de ça, parce que c'est
[1:25:22] encore dans le CCU. Ce n'est pas
[1:25:25] officiel.
[1:25:30] - Sur la grue Rudolph.
[1:25:32] - Quelle adresse?
[1:25:37] - 6, le golf.
[1:25:38] - Non, on n'est pas permis. Mais
[1:25:39] je connais bien. C'est l'ancien
[1:25:41] édifice de la famille
[1:25:42] (---)
[1:25:43] . Oui, on n'est pas permis.
[1:25:44] C'est encore en train d'être
[1:25:45] décidé.
[1:25:46] - Juste comme voisins immédiats,
[1:25:48] je suis au courant de la
[1:25:50] demande, puis disons que je suis
[1:25:52] un peu inquiet. J'aimerais ça
[1:25:56] savoir exactement. J'espère que
[1:25:57] je vais le savoir assez vite.
[1:26:01] Parce que s'il y a des
[1:26:02] changements de statuts demandés,
[1:26:03] je pense que les voisins
[1:26:05] immédiats devraient être
[1:26:07] avisées, parce que c'est une rue
[1:26:08] résidentielle. C'est une maison
[1:26:10] résidentielle.
[1:26:11] - Absolument.
[1:26:12] - Est-ce que vous avez une idée
[1:26:14] quand est-ce qu'on va être
[1:26:15] avisé?
[1:26:16] - Pas exactement. Ça dépend du
[1:26:19] prochain CCU, de la prochaine
[1:26:21] réunion. Peut-être une couple de
[1:26:23] mois. Je ne suis pas certain.
[1:26:26] - Je ne voudrais pas me
[1:26:27] retrouver devant un fait
[1:26:28] accompli.
[1:26:29] - Non. Ce n'est jamais le cas.
[1:26:31] - S'il y a des changements,
[1:26:32] est-ce qu'il va y avoir des
[1:26:34] avis?
[1:26:35] - Le processus n'est pas comme
[1:26:36] ça. Il y aura une possibilité de
[1:26:39] parler à ce sujet, d'exprimer
[1:26:41] votre opinion si vous êtes
[1:26:42] contre le projet opposer.
[1:26:43] - Est-ce qu'il va y avoir des
[1:26:44] avis? O.K.. Mon autre question,
[1:26:50] c'est, le pouvoir de la ville de
[1:26:51] protection des arbres, c'est
[1:26:52] bien important. Qu'est-ce que la
[1:26:56] Ville va faire pour protéger les
[1:26:57] arbres des castors sur le bord
[1:26:58] de l'eau?
[1:26:59] (rires)
[1:27:01] - Parce que, là, depuis 1 an et
[1:27:03] demi ou 2 ans, il y a beaucoup
[1:27:07] d'arbres
[1:27:08] (inaudible)
[1:27:09] .
[1:27:10] - Le Bordeleau, c'est la
[1:27:11] responsabilité du gouvernement
[1:27:12] fédéral. Juste devant l'eau, le
[1:27:16] gouvernement fédéral. Les
[1:27:17] arbres, oui, c'est vrai. Bonne
[1:27:19] question. Je n'ai aucune idée.
[1:27:22] Do we have a beaver policy
[1:27:24] regarding protection of our
[1:27:26] shoreline? It's a very
[1:27:27] interesting question.
[1:27:28] - Non, on en a pas. On est au
[1:27:30] courant de la problématique de
[1:27:31] castor. Malheureusement, il n'y
[1:27:32] a pas beaucoup de choses qu'on
[1:27:33] peut faire rapport les trappes
[1:27:34] et quand on arrive à le faire.
[1:27:36] Vous savez qu'on ne peut pas
[1:27:38] intervenir en bande riveraine de
[1:27:39] toute façon. On a besoin
[1:27:41] d'autorisations
[1:27:42] gouvernementales. Mais soyez
[1:27:43] rassurés qu'on est au courant de
[1:27:45] nos petites bêtes qui se
[1:27:48] promènent sur nos rives.
[1:27:49] - Ce n'est pas trop rassurant,
[1:27:50] parce que depuis 1 an et demi,
[1:27:51] il n'y a pas grand-chose qui a
[1:27:52] été fait. Il y a beaucoup
[1:27:54] d'arbres qui ont été coupés, et
[1:27:55] pas juste des petits non plus.
[1:27:56] - C'est intéressant. Je ne suis
[1:27:59] pas spécialiste moi-même, mais
[1:28:00] je pense que les castors sont
[1:28:02] protégés aussi
[1:28:03] (---)
[1:28:04] .
[1:28:05] - Vous n'êtes pas obligé de les
[1:28:06] tuer. Ils peuvent être
[1:28:07] relocalisés ou protégés d'une
[1:28:08] autre manière.
[1:28:09] - Peut-être. Il y aura des
[1:28:10] solutions. Je ne sais pas
[1:28:11] exactement qu'est-ce qu'on peut
[1:28:12] faire, mais je peux faire mes
[1:28:14] recherches. Je peux déterminer
[1:28:16] ça. C'est intéressant. Merci,
[1:28:18] Monsieur.
[1:28:19] - Merci. Did I say that right,
[1:28:24] Jeremy? Jeremy -- Canada.
[1:28:30] Danielle month at the?
[1:28:34] (inaudible)
[1:28:35] - Daniel Montpetit.
[1:28:42] - Bonsoir, conseillères et
[1:28:44] conseillers. Je suis déçu pas
[1:28:45] mal de l'envergure, de la
[1:28:48] tournure des questions, vous
[1:28:49] engueule, et tout ça. On est
[1:28:50] plus à la petite école. Si vous
[1:28:52] ne vous aimez pas, c'est bien
[1:28:53] beau. Vous ferez ça dans la
[1:28:55] chambre en arrière. Nous autres,
[1:28:56] on n'a pas besoin d'entendre vos
[1:28:59] commentaires, parce que c'est
[1:29:00] vraiment
[1:29:01] (---)
[1:29:02] et ce n'est pas le fun,
[1:29:03] premièrement. Deuxièmement, moi,
[1:29:04] je viens ici pour les personnes
[1:29:05] âgées. Je le sais que la Ville
[1:29:06] de Pointe-Claire en fait
[1:29:07] beaucoup pour les personnes
[1:29:08] âgées. C'est une belle job
[1:29:09] qu'ils font. Je suis bien
[1:29:10] d'accord. Mais on appelle les
[1:29:11] personnes âgées une fois par
[1:29:14] semaine pour jaser, nous tenir
[1:29:15] au courant, tout ça. Mais quand
[1:29:16] on appelle et ils ne répondent
[1:29:18] pas, pourquoi on n'envoie pas
[1:29:20] quelqu'un regarder tout de suite
[1:29:21] au lieu d'attendre?
[1:29:22] - On envoie.
[1:29:23] - Non, on appelle le lendemain.
[1:29:25] Après, on envoie.
[1:29:26] - Est-ce que c'est vrai, Madame
[1:29:28] Verdon?
[1:29:32] - Bien oui, bien oui. Je ne
[1:29:33] compte pas de menteries, moi.
[1:29:34] - La journée après?
[1:29:35] - Oui. On appelle la journée
[1:29:37] même. S'ils ne répondent pas, on
[1:29:38] attend au lendemain. Là, on va
[1:29:41] les rappeler. Je sais que ça
[1:29:43] peut arriver qu'on ne l'appelle
[1:29:45] pas aussi, mais qu'on appelle la
[1:29:46] journée et on appelle le
[1:29:48] lendemain, on a appelé, envoyer
[1:29:50] quelqu'un. Parce que peut-être
[1:29:51] qu'il est arrivé quelque chose.
[1:29:52] - On avait fait ça. Le
[1:29:55] verglas...
[1:29:56] - Peut-être avec le verglas dans
[1:29:57] le temps.
[1:29:58] - Dans le verglas, on a fait ça.
[1:29:59] - Ça devrait continuer tout le
[1:30:00] temps. Ce serait une bonne
[1:30:01] affaire. Je vais là moi aussi
[1:30:02] bientôt et j'aimerais
[1:30:03] (inaudible)
[1:30:04] .
[1:30:05] - Je comprends.
[1:30:06] - Merci beaucoup. C'était tout.
[1:30:07] - Merci. Non, c'est vrai. We
[1:30:16] actually have been trying to
[1:30:19] compile, Mr. Daniel Montpetit,
[1:30:21] we've been trying to compile a
[1:30:23] list of citizens who lived alone
[1:30:25] and houses. Because you can get
[1:30:28] to seniors homes and help them,
[1:30:30] but the worrisome ones are the
[1:30:31] ones who are in their homes. And
[1:30:33] those are the ones we have to
[1:30:34] follow up on. And we've actually
[1:30:36] been trying to compile a list,
[1:30:40] the colleagues have been in
[1:30:41] touch with me on that one, and
[1:30:42] we're trying to compile a list
[1:30:44] of seniors living in homes,
[1:30:47] because they are the ones that
[1:30:48] can fall through the cracks. So
[1:30:49] you are absolutely right. And we
[1:30:51] are aware that. And public
[1:30:53] security actually, it's where a
[1:30:55] lot of them are. But point
[1:30:57] taken, point well taken.
[1:31:01] >> My neighbour --
[1:31:02] [Inaudible]
[1:31:05] Not old enough yet.
[1:31:07] - C'est quoi l'âge? Il est assez
[1:31:11] vieux.
[1:31:13] (rires)
[1:31:14] Il est assez vieux, je pense.
[1:31:17] Jérémy Lucien. Bonjour, tout le
[1:31:24] monde. Je vais vous demander
[1:31:25] s'il y avait eu une mise à jour
[1:31:26] par rapport à la demande de
[1:31:27] contrats pour la consultation.
[1:31:29] Si je comprends bien, ça n'a pas
[1:31:31] été approuvé encore pour la
[1:31:34] consultation pour les espaces
[1:31:35] naturels ou la forêt Fairview.
[1:31:38] Je veux juste savoir s'il y a
[1:31:39] une mise à jour.
[1:31:43] - Comme il a été dit un peu plus
[1:31:44] tôt, c'est un projet qu'on doit
[1:31:46] soumettre au conseil municipal
[1:31:47] dans les prochaines semaines. On
[1:31:49] attendait la fin de la cinquième
[1:31:52] consultation disputé avec le
[1:31:53] consultant puis voir la suite
[1:31:54] des choses.
[1:31:55] - O.K.. Je voulais m'assurer de
[1:31:56] bien comprendre. Parfait.
[1:31:58] Deuxième chose que je n'avais
[1:31:59] pas mentionné aujourd'hui, parce
[1:32:03] qu'il y a d'autres résidents qui
[1:32:04] leur mentionner: il y a un gros
[1:32:05] projet des développements sur le
[1:32:07] coin de Mail Rowe et Lake Shore.
[1:32:08] Je pense que, monsieur
[1:32:10] Bissonnette, ça va district. Il
[1:32:11] a des déchets partout par terre.
[1:32:13] Il y a du plastique rendu dans
[1:32:14] l'eau, dans les arbres du
[1:32:16] chantier de construction. C'est
[1:32:17] vraiment un gros dégât. J'allais
[1:32:18] enfin vous envoyez un courriel
[1:32:19] par rapport à ça. Parce qu'il y
[1:32:21] a d'autres résidents qui en ont
[1:32:23] parlé, chez le mentionne
[1:32:24] aujourd'hui. Là, c'est certain
[1:32:25] qu'il y en a dans l'eau. Il y a
[1:32:26] du plastique et des déchets
[1:32:27] partout dans l'aussi. Si c'est
[1:32:31] possible d'aller vérifier ça ou
[1:32:34] gestes, en tout cas, de faire
[1:32:35] passer quelqu'un pour s'assurer
[1:32:36] que les déchets ne se rendent
[1:32:37] pas jusque dans l'eau, que les
[1:32:39] sites de construction sont bien
[1:32:40] nettoyés comme il faut pour ne
[1:32:41] pas qu'on ait de problème. S'il
[1:32:42] y a des gens qui jettent des
[1:32:44] déchets par terre n'importe où,
[1:32:46] ça, c'est une amende
[1:32:49] directement. Il me semble que
[1:32:50] c'est quasiment la même affaire.
[1:32:52] Donc je me demandais si ce
[1:32:53] serait possible de regarder ça.
[1:32:56] - Oui, c'est possible. Merci
[1:32:58] pour votre intervention. Je suis
[1:33:01] d'accord. Je n'aime pas ça du
[1:33:02] tout, du tout. On peut vérifier
[1:33:05] ça. On peut envoyer des
[1:33:07] inspecteurs souvent pour
[1:33:10] vérifier ça. Je m'excuse. I'm
[1:33:12] sorry for that.
[1:33:13] Ce n'est pas bon. >> I've just
[1:33:14] been seeing it all winter, and I
[1:33:17] keep meeting to send an email.
[1:33:18] And the residents brought it up
[1:33:19] today. So I just thought I would
[1:33:21] mention it, the plastic is
[1:33:23] everywhere. It's hanging in the
[1:33:24] trees and the bushes.
[1:33:26] - Ça me frustre. It's been an
[1:33:27] issue for a year now.
[1:33:29] Okay, thank you.
[1:33:30] - Merci beaucoup. O.K.. >>
[1:33:36] Coming that Lewandowski. Camilla
[1:33:37] (---)
[1:33:38] . Okay, you're done?
[1:33:43] >> Alicia right.
[1:33:52] - Bonsoir, tout le monde.
[1:33:55] >> Good evening everyone, to our
[1:33:57] Mayor and our council members,
[1:33:58] and the citizens of
[1:33:59] Pointe-Claire. So I am from --
[1:34:01] apostolic church. Thank you
[1:34:04] Council woman for the note of
[1:34:06] thanks. It's our endeavour to
[1:34:08] work in the Pointe-Claire
[1:34:10] community and beyond the
[1:34:11] boundaries of Pointe-Claire
[1:34:12] because we see there are issues
[1:34:13] and ways we can support our
[1:34:15] citizens. One of the things our
[1:34:17] church is currently expanding
[1:34:19] through its bountiful blessings
[1:34:21] arm is we have expanded our
[1:34:22] feeding mission, our food
[1:34:23] mission. Bénédiction abondantes.
[1:34:26] So it was previously we would go
[1:34:28] downtown and feed homeless men
[1:34:29] and women once a month, because
[1:34:31] previously, we were not in the
[1:34:33] Pointe-Claire area. But we've
[1:34:35] expanded now that we've moved to
[1:34:36] Pointe-Claire. We just recently
[1:34:38] partnered with second harvest to
[1:34:40] be able to pick up food from
[1:34:43] various organizations that are
[1:34:45] saying they have food that needs
[1:34:46] to be collected or else it will
[1:34:48] be thrown out. Since January, we
[1:34:51] were able to provide 361
[1:34:54] homeless persons between
[1:34:56] Pointe-Claire two downtown with
[1:34:59] food. In the month of March
[1:35:00] alone, whatever able to support
[1:35:02] 30 to low income families. As
[1:35:06] well as feeding teams, her
[1:35:08] providing sandwiches, breakfast
[1:35:11] sandwiches, two teenagers in
[1:35:12] high school. What we wanted to
[1:35:13] know is how we could collaborate
[1:35:16] with the City of Pointe-Claire
[1:35:17] to further help, further expand
[1:35:19] our existing mission? Because we
[1:35:21] are well aware that food
[1:35:23] insecurity is a great issue, as
[1:35:24] we know. Oftentimes the thought
[1:35:26] is in the West Island this is
[1:35:28] not the case, but it is the
[1:35:29] case. We are seeing the numbers.
[1:35:31] So we want to know if there's a
[1:35:33] possibility we can clap rate
[1:35:34] with the city to expand. One of
[1:35:36] the things we are trying to do
[1:35:37] right now, and I was actually
[1:35:38] here earlier today, is we are
[1:35:41] trying to rebuild what was the
[1:35:44] previous kitchen in our church.
[1:35:46] So we wanted to try and meet the
[1:35:48] needs, we wanted to build a
[1:35:49] commercial kitchen. It's proven
[1:35:50] to be extremely difficult and
[1:35:53] extremely difficult with the age
[1:35:54] of our building. We have been
[1:35:55] working on this since January.
[1:35:58] We were able to obtain the plans
[1:36:00] for the church, which our
[1:36:03] architect is having a hard time
[1:36:04] being able to see, because it's
[1:36:05] in a very old document. But we
[1:36:08] wanted to know what we can do to
[1:36:10] work together to support our
[1:36:11] community, especially our
[1:36:13] seniors, because we recognize
[1:36:14] they are often -- there in this
[1:36:17] catchment as well.
[1:36:20] >> Well, just right off the bat,
[1:36:22] I can think of a few
[1:36:24] organizations that we would work
[1:36:25] with that are already doing
[1:36:27] exactly that, that you would
[1:36:28] want to link up with. I would do
[1:36:31] the -- of the southwest of the
[1:36:32] island would be one that I
[1:36:33] recommend. Table de quartier sud
[1:36:34] de l'ouest de l'île. Crever de
[1:36:38] pain -- Would be another. The
[1:36:39] West Island Mission is a good
[1:36:42] organization. There are others.
[1:36:45] There are other organizations
[1:36:47] that are already on the ground
[1:36:49] doing that, and it's a great and
[1:36:50] issued if. You can link up with
[1:36:52] them. Or you can somehow
[1:36:55] negotiate or work out something
[1:36:57] overtime as well. But these are
[1:36:58] established organizations who
[1:37:00] you may want to link up with and
[1:37:01] work with.
[1:37:02] >> Okay, and we are very willing
[1:37:05] to collaborate on any levels,
[1:37:07] but we also recognize that those
[1:37:09] same organizations are also
[1:37:12] struggling in some ways, whether
[1:37:14] it be a reduction in donations,
[1:37:17] I know for the West Island
[1:37:18] Mission, when I last checked
[1:37:19] their website, they were still
[1:37:20] asking for donations to help
[1:37:21] fill their shelves because
[1:37:23] donations are low. So that's why
[1:37:26] I am asking, how can we partner
[1:37:27] with the City, if there are
[1:37:29] funds available or other means
[1:37:31] we are not aware of so that we
[1:37:32] can all work towards this
[1:37:35] important need.
[1:37:37] >> Well, organizations
[1:37:38] frequently right to the city and
[1:37:41] consult and see if they are
[1:37:43] available for subsided station
[1:37:45] from the City. You can certainly
[1:37:46] do that. You can certainly
[1:37:48] apply.
[1:37:49] >> Thank you. And my second
[1:37:51] question, I was really happy to
[1:37:52] hear there is a process by which
[1:37:54] seniors are contacted once a
[1:37:56] week. I wanted to know who is
[1:37:58] contacting the seniors, is it
[1:38:00] the local CLSC's? How does it
[1:38:03] work, and are there more
[1:38:05] volunteers needed maybe to amp
[1:38:06] up the number of calls? I know
[1:38:08] we have our youth that was maybe
[1:38:09] willing to participate in that,
[1:38:10] because again, there are so many
[1:38:12] seniors that are on their own.
[1:38:15] And it's even to go for a visit
[1:38:16] once a week, we've had a senior
[1:38:19] who came to our pancake
[1:38:20] breakfast in February, she came,
[1:38:22] she called us on a Sunday
[1:38:23] morning and came down because
[1:38:24] she was in terrible distress. So
[1:38:26] I realized that there is a need
[1:38:28] maybe for more support. So I
[1:38:30] just wanted to know who is in
[1:38:32] charge of those phone calls and
[1:38:33] if there's a way that we can
[1:38:34] help.
[1:38:35] >> Well, I will just say that we
[1:38:37] do have internally we have aid
[1:38:39] for seniors, which is a program
[1:38:42] specifically designed to look
[1:38:43] after the special needs of
[1:38:45] seniors. And it's quite an
[1:38:46] effective program. You could
[1:38:48] contact them. There is nothing
[1:38:50] stopping you from compiling your
[1:38:51] own list as well. I know we do
[1:38:54] it as a city. I believe we have
[1:38:56] a phone list of seniors that we
[1:38:59] follow up on.
[1:39:00] >> Yes, they have to register
[1:39:01] through the city. It's city
[1:39:04] employees that -- aid for
[1:39:08] senior.
[1:39:10] - Donc il faut, eux, qu'ils
[1:39:11] s'enrichissent, qu'ils
[1:39:12] s'inscrivent pour être appelés.
[1:39:14] Donc s'ils ne connaissent pas
[1:39:16] l'information, ça veut dire
[1:39:17] qu'ils sont inaccessibles.
[1:39:19] - C'est ça, exactement. Pour
[1:39:21] faire les listes, je vous
[1:39:22] conseillerais peut-être
[1:39:23] d'appeler demain à la Ville et
[1:39:25] de demander à parler avec le
[1:39:27] département, justement, de
[1:39:28] l'aide au troisième âge, qui
[1:39:30] vont pouvoir vous répondre et
[1:39:31] faire les liens nécessaires vers
[1:39:34] votre organisation aussi pour
[1:39:35] tous les programmes que nous
[1:39:36] avons.
[1:39:37] - Parfait, merci beaucoup.
[1:39:39] - Merci. Il reste une. We're
[1:39:41] running out of time.
[1:39:44] >> Leslie --
[1:39:46] >> Seven minutes left, Mister
[1:39:47] Mayor.
[1:39:48] - Merci, Madame. >> Thank you,
[1:39:50] Madam.
[1:39:53] >> Thank you, Pat. Nice, thanks.
[1:40:01] [Laughter]
[1:40:03] I just am trying to get a bit
[1:40:07] more clarification in regards
[1:40:10] to, as we know, the governments
[1:40:14] are subsidizing elderly home
[1:40:17] care, private further own -- for
[1:40:20] their own private use of their
[1:40:21] own residences. And I am
[1:40:24] wondering if the regulations on
[1:40:27] bylaws are the regulation itself
[1:40:30] about having someone living in
[1:40:33] one's residence accepted because
[1:40:39] I think quite a few years ago,
[1:40:41] I've read in some of our bylaws
[1:40:43] here that there was a
[1:40:45] restriction in regards to the
[1:40:50] qualification or the type of
[1:40:51] person that would be allowed to
[1:40:54] be a resident in the elders home
[1:41:02] privately to provide 24/7 care
[1:41:05] for an elder. And the bylaw
[1:41:11] stipulated that it had to be a
[1:41:12] family member. Is there any
[1:41:15] exemption possible for that to
[1:41:16] have someone hired or not by the
[1:41:21] elder to be able to share, let's
[1:41:25] say, the home occupancy in one
[1:41:29] area of residence to provide the
[1:41:34] service to the elder without any
[1:41:37] hindering or any problems?
[1:41:40] >> Offhand, I'm surprised. I
[1:41:43] don't believe that's true. I
[1:41:44] don't know if actually -- I'm
[1:41:47] not one hunted percent
[1:41:51] confident. I find -- I'm pretty
[1:41:52] sure that's a private matter.
[1:41:54] And you can hire caregivers,
[1:41:56] elder citizens can hire private
[1:41:59] caregivers.
[1:42:00] >> Okay.
[1:42:01] >> I'm pretty sure that the
[1:42:02] freedom to do that in their own
[1:42:03] homes. I would be surprised if
[1:42:04] the city was intervening on
[1:42:05] that. I don't know for sure, but
[1:42:08] it comes across as a surprise to
[1:42:10] me. Do either of you know
[1:42:12] anything about that? No. So I'm
[1:42:16] not sure that's correct, sir. I
[1:42:19] don't think so.
[1:42:21] >> I thought I had seen that in
[1:42:23] some of the bios, but maybe it
[1:42:25] was retrieved or changed with an
[1:42:28] amendment or something. And then
[1:42:30] it doesn't appear anymore. So I
[1:42:33] just wanted to make sure that
[1:42:34] it's okay, let's say, for me in
[1:42:37] my own private property to hire
[1:42:41] someone to be there 24/7 for me.
[1:42:46] And having no problems in regard
[1:42:48] to addressing remuneration that
[1:42:51] person in parts of the residence
[1:42:55] occupancy that might allow for
[1:42:57] that person to have in order to
[1:42:59] serve me.
[1:43:00] >> The only obstacle I can
[1:43:02] possibly see is that the person
[1:43:03] is not a legal resident, or that
[1:43:05] there may be some kind of law.
[1:43:07] And I'm not even sure that's
[1:43:09] true. I'm not even, sure I don't
[1:43:11] have the command of the law on
[1:43:12] that. But I don't think we have
[1:43:14] any laws in place.
[1:43:15] >> Me neither, I don't know. So
[1:43:17] if it's possible to clarify that
[1:43:20] in some way, somehow, that it's
[1:43:25] okay. Or as we are talking, now
[1:43:27] that it should be.
[1:43:28] >> We can look into that, for
[1:43:31] sure. Thank you, sir. Okay.
[1:43:37] Monsieur le Maire, juste deux
[1:43:39] secondes. Monsieur Clermont, je
[1:43:41] vous invite à venir me revoir
[1:43:43] après la rencontre. Vous en
[1:43:45] savez pas mal plus que moi, puis
[1:43:48] si vous prenez une chance de
[1:43:51] passer pour la prochaine fois
[1:43:52] que vous allez venir poser une
[1:43:54] question, vous allez passer pour
[1:43:55] une plante peut-être. Merci.
[1:44:04] - 5.1, je pense.
[1:44:08] - 5.1 Adoption d'un règlement
[1:44:09] modifiant le Règlement PC-2962
[1:44:10] décrétant les tarifs exigibles
[1:44:11] pour le financement de biens,
[1:44:13] services et activités offerts
[1:44:14] par la Ville de Pointe-Claire
[1:44:15] pour l'exercice financier 2024.
[1:44:17] Les modifications consistent
[1:44:19] notamment en l'ajout des frais
[1:44:20] de location pour des salles de
[1:44:22] Stewart rares pour les groupes
[1:44:24] communautaires qui veulent
[1:44:25] effectuer des activités de levée
[1:44:26] de fonds et le retrait des frais
[1:44:27] de compostage, qui est
[1:44:29] dorénavant gratuit.
[1:44:32] >> Do I have a mover? And a
[1:44:36] seconder? All in favour?
[1:44:41] - Juste un instant. Yeah, hold
[1:44:43] on.
[1:44:52] 6.1, and here to the Adhere to
[1:45:00] the Federation of Canadian
[1:45:01] Municipalities'
[1:45:02] (FCM)
[1:45:03] initiative to counter the
[1:45:04] federal infrastructure funding
[1:45:05] deficit in relation to
[1:45:06] population growth.
[1:45:07] Municipalities that are members
[1:45:08] of the Federation of the
[1:45:09] Canadian Municipalities, also
[1:45:10] known as the FCM, are calling on
[1:45:11] the federal government increases
[1:45:13] federal assistance by setting up
[1:45:14] funds and programs to help
[1:45:15] municipalities meet the
[1:45:18] responsibilities. 6.2 Autoriser
[1:45:20] la ville de Pointe-Claire à
[1:45:21] prêter des équipements à
[1:45:22] Corbeille de pain. La liste du
[1:45:24] matériel de Mandela suivante:
[1:45:25] six barils, 85 conte de
[1:45:28] signalisation, 25 tables de
[1:45:29] pique-nique et huit tente.
[1:45:31] Authorize the City of
[1:45:32] Pointe-Claire to lend equipment
[1:45:33] to the Strangers in the Night
[1:45:34] Foundation. The list of
[1:45:38] equipment is as false, 20
[1:45:39] barricades, 40 traffic on, 40
[1:45:41] recycling, the 40 compost bin,
[1:45:43] to bag flow -- preventive
[1:45:45] elsewhere hydrate connections.
[1:45:47] - 6.4 Autoriser la participation
[1:45:48] de 8 membres du conseil au
[1:45:49] Festival de Blues de
[1:45:50] l'Ouest-de-l'Île devant se tenir
[1:45:51] le 30 mai 2024. Les billets sont
[1:45:55] 125 dollars chacun et la vente
[1:45:57] des billets sera versé à des
[1:45:59] organismes à but non lucratif.
[1:46:05] 6.5 Consider a request for
[1:46:06] revision pertaining to the
[1:46:07] decision of the Demolition
[1:46:08] Committee regarding the
[1:46:09] immovable located at 12
[1:46:10] Coolbreeze Avenue. The
[1:46:11] demolition committee's decision
[1:46:13] was previously approved, the
[1:46:15] demolition and the
[1:46:16] revitalization program for the
[1:46:17] -- Council tonight will either
[1:46:19] tonight confirm said decision or
[1:46:21] make the changes.
[1:46:27] - 6.6 Considérer une demande de
[1:46:28] révision portant sur la décision
[1:46:29] du comité de démolition visant
[1:46:30] l'immeuble situé au 13, avenue
[1:46:31] Julien. La décision du comité
[1:46:34] démolition est à l'effet
[1:46:35] d'approuver la démolition et de
[1:46:37] refuser le programme de
[1:46:39] (---)
[1:46:40] du sol dégagé. Alors, à l'instar
[1:46:43] du point précédent, le conseil,
[1:46:45] ce soir, doit maintenir la
[1:46:47] décision du comité de démolition
[1:46:49] vous rendre la commission que le
[1:46:51] comité aurait dû rendre.
[1:46:52] - Alors, avant de voter, madame
[1:46:54] Thibault, est-ce que c'est
[1:46:55] possible de parler au sujet de
[1:47:00] 6.1, je pense qu'on peut
[1:47:01] expliquer un peu.
[1:47:02] - Oui, une explication a été
[1:47:04] donnée a 6.1.
[1:47:07] >> Do you want me to read it
[1:47:08] again?
[1:47:09] - Oui, s'il vous plaît. Plus
[1:47:11] lent.
[1:47:12] - La dernière? Oui, attendez un
[1:47:15] instant.
[1:47:29] >> I'm sorry.
[1:47:30] - Non, non, je m'excuse.
[1:48:05] Sorry, I think problem with my
[1:48:08] computer.
[1:48:16] - Je peux essayer moi-même,
[1:48:18] Madame Thibault, si vous voulez.
[1:48:20] J'ai quelque chose.
[1:48:28] >> In English?
[1:48:30] - N'importe quelle langue, oui.
[1:48:33] It was the last, where was, it
[1:48:35] the Canadian community building
[1:48:37] fund, which was founded as the
[1:48:39] federal gas tax fund, provide
[1:48:41] more than two billion in annual
[1:48:43] capital funding to
[1:48:45] municipalities through
[1:48:46] predictable allocation mechanism
[1:48:50] -- all sides use the CCBF to
[1:48:53] deliver direct results for
[1:48:55] Canadians by building and
[1:48:57] removing critical car public
[1:48:59] infrastructure, including water
[1:49:01] -- public transit in communities
[1:49:03] and cultural and recreational
[1:49:05] facilities.
[1:49:06] >> This is the last paragraph,
[1:49:08] I'm sorry, in the resolution
[1:49:09] that we will send to the federal
[1:49:14] government. And several
[1:49:15] municipalities, members of FCM,
[1:49:18] will do as well.
[1:49:19] - O.K., Merci beaucoup. Alors,
[1:49:23] 6.6, il faut que j'explique.
[1:49:33] >> 6.5, it is, just maybe for
[1:49:35] the public and people at home,
[1:49:39] what is the conclusion of
[1:49:40] Council regarding this decision
[1:49:43] from the motion Committee? So is
[1:49:44] it to confirm or overturned? And
[1:49:46] the same applies to 6.6, please.
[1:49:48] >> Okay, I can speak to 6.6 for
[1:49:52] 13 Julien, where there was the
[1:49:57] demolition was approved, the
[1:49:59] initial demolition was approved.
[1:50:01] But the replacement project was
[1:50:03] not approved and sent back to
[1:50:05] the CCU or the pack committee,
[1:50:08] which then returned it back to
[1:50:09] Council. And we have, Council
[1:50:12] has approved the project. So we
[1:50:15] are voting for the approval of
[1:50:17] both the demolition and the --
[1:50:21] project in 6.6.
[1:50:25] >> And 6.5, my comprehension is
[1:50:28] that you confirmed the decision
[1:50:29] from the demolition company?
[1:50:31] >> We, did as a Council.
[1:50:33] >> Council confirmed the
[1:50:35] decision. You will vote on that
[1:50:37] confirmation, right?
[1:50:38] >> Yes. Okay. Pour 6,1 6,6.
[1:50:41] Do I have a mover? - Claude
[1:50:45] Cousineau, district un. Claude
[1:50:47] Cousineau.
[1:50:49] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:50:50] district three.
[1:50:52] >> All in favour?
[1:51:01] >> 7.1 to File the minutes of
[1:51:04] the January 24, 2024, meeting of
[1:51:05] the Stewart Hall Advisory Board.
[1:51:08] - 8.1 Adopter une Politique
[1:51:09] d'aide financière - soutien aux
[1:51:10] associations de marchands. La
[1:51:12] Ville de Pointe-Claire souhaite
[1:51:13] adopter une politique pour
[1:51:15] l'autorisation d'une aide
[1:51:16] financière pour le développement
[1:51:17] des associations de marchands
[1:51:19] pour le noyau villageois de
[1:51:21] Pointe-Claire et de Valois afin
[1:51:22] de soutenir des projets pour le
[1:51:24] développement et la vitalité de
[1:51:25] ces milieux. Les modalités de
[1:51:27] demandes et des versements de
[1:51:28] l'aide financière sont contenues
[1:51:29] dans la politique. Le maximum
[1:51:31] d'aide financière qui pourrait
[1:51:33] être octroyée et de 25000
[1:51:35] dollars par année.
[1:51:37] - Alors, pour 8.1.
[1:51:39] Do I have a mover? - Claude
[1:51:43] Cousineau, district 1. Seconder?
[1:51:46] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:51:47] >> And I just speak briefly to a
[1:51:49] point, what the merchants
[1:51:51] associations about Valois in
[1:51:53] Pointe-Claire village will be a
[1:51:54] pleased with this. Because what
[1:51:55] has happened is they no longer
[1:51:57] have to go through a political
[1:52:00] process every year. This is a
[1:52:02] administrative process. They get
[1:52:03] to apply. There is an
[1:52:05] application that they submit
[1:52:06] every year for this type of
[1:52:09] funding, with a maximum
[1:52:11] contribution of 75% of the total
[1:52:13] cost of a project, up to a
[1:52:15] maximum of $25,000. This may be
[1:52:19] given to support projects for
[1:52:20] the development and vitality of
[1:52:22] these villages, the commercial
[1:52:25] villages. A request must be made
[1:52:27] Jen -- the other general
[1:52:28] management or the
[1:52:29] administration. There is a form
[1:52:31] to complete and will be sent to
[1:52:33] applicants. It's become an
[1:52:34] administrative process, not a
[1:52:35] political. Once they will be
[1:52:36] very happy with. That
[1:52:37] >> Question.
[1:52:38] >> Yes.
[1:52:39] >> I'm having a bit of trouble
[1:52:40] understanding how there is a
[1:52:41] political process.
[1:52:42] >> No, not necessarily
[1:52:44] political, but they felt that it
[1:52:45] was not something that was a
[1:52:47] yearly, annual thing. They felt
[1:52:50] that it may or may not be there
[1:52:51] for them. That in other words,
[1:52:53] it might be there one year, it
[1:52:55] might not be there, depending on
[1:52:57] the mood, the prevailing mood of
[1:52:58] the time, where it is actually
[1:53:01] an administrative process that
[1:53:03] is built in that will happen
[1:53:04] every year. So that's what I
[1:53:05] meant by that.
[1:53:06] >> Thank you.
[1:53:07] >> Just a reminder, there was a
[1:53:09] mover and a seconder that hadn't
[1:53:11] been voted on.
[1:53:13] >> Do I have a mover?
[1:53:14] >> You've got a mover and a
[1:53:16] secondary, just haven't voted.
[1:53:17] >> All in favour?
[1:53:24] >> 10.1 File the list of budget
[1:53:29] amendments and the register of
[1:53:30] cheques for the period of March
[1:53:31] 2, 2024, to March 24, 2024.
[1:53:32] - 10.2 Autoriser le transfert de
[1:53:34] postes budgétaires associés à
[1:53:35] des postes de fonds parcs et
[1:53:36] terrains de jeux pour lesquels
[1:53:37] les projets, travaux ou achats
[1:53:38] d'équipement sont complétés ou
[1:53:39] annulés. Afin de combler un
[1:53:40] manque à gagner de 140000
[1:53:42] dollars dans le poste budgétaire
[1:53:43] du projet 24 - cette, réfection
[1:53:47] des équipements de jeu des parcs
[1:53:52] Lansdowne, six deux et quelques
[1:53:54] mène, un transfert de fonds est
[1:53:55] requis et proviendra des postes
[1:53:57] budgétaires de deux projets dont
[1:53:59] les fonds n'ont pas été
[1:54:00] entièrement utilisé. >> 10.3
[1:54:05] Award a contract for the supply
[1:54:06] and the delivery of clothing for
[1:54:07] managers for the year 2024, to
[1:54:09] PROMOTIONS PLUS DIVISION DE LE
[1:54:11] GROUPE D'IMPORTATION ET DE
[1:54:12] DISTRIBUTION HUGO INC., For a
[1:54:14] total amount of $ 21,519.35,
[1:54:19] taxes included, with two years
[1:54:20] in option.
[1:54:23] - 10.4 Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:54:24] un logiciel d'approbation de
[1:54:25] factures automatisé pour les
[1:54:26] années 2024, 2025 et 2026, à
[1:54:28] TOSHIBA, pour un montant total
[1:54:31] de 85067,70 $ taxes incluses.
[1:54:34] L'investissement dans le
[1:54:35] logiciel proposé pour la gestion
[1:54:36] des comptes fournisseurs sans
[1:54:37] papiers justifiée par les
[1:54:39] importantes économies de temps
[1:54:40] qu'il apportera. >> 10.5 To
[1:54:42] approve a change order to the
[1:54:43] contract entered into with
[1:54:45] MICROSOFT, for the purchase of
[1:54:47] Microsoft subscription licenses
[1:54:48] for the years 2022, 2023 and
[1:54:50] 2024, for an amount of $ 20,000,
[1:54:52] taxes included. With their new
[1:54:56] office 365 licence, we'd like to
[1:54:58] add applications and features
[1:54:59] such as co-pilot, video, and
[1:55:03] project.
[1:55:05] - Pour 10,2 jusqu'à 10,5. Do I
[1:55:09] have a mover?
[1:55:10] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:55:12] >> And second? Kelly
[1:55:14] Thorstad-Cullen, district three.
[1:55:15] >> All in favour?
[1:55:19] - 11.1 Approuver la cession du
[1:55:20] lot 6 504 495 du cadastre du
[1:55:22] Québec à des fins
[1:55:23] d'infrastructures municipales.
[1:55:25] La Ville a exigée comme
[1:55:26] condition à la construction du
[1:55:27] projet avis va condos situé au
[1:55:30] 365 Brunswick le transfert à
[1:55:32] titre gratuit d'une bande de
[1:55:33] terrains situés en face de cette
[1:55:35] adresse connu aujourd'hui sous
[1:55:36] le lot 6 504 495 du cadastre du
[1:55:40] Québec. Le but de la session et
[1:55:41] de pouvoir réaliser
[1:55:43] d'éventuelles travaux
[1:55:44] d'infrastructures municipales, à
[1:55:47] savoir une ruban de verte,
[1:55:50] kystique lave et/ou trottoir. >>
[1:55:54] 11.2 Approve an agreement to be
[1:55:55] entered into with Réseau de
[1:55:56] transport métropolitain
[1:55:57] (EXO)
[1:55:58] regarding the extension of the
[1:55:59] interruption of the prescription
[1:56:00] period. It is the interest of
[1:56:01] the parties to agree to an
[1:56:03] interruption of a limitation
[1:56:04] period concerning all sums that
[1:56:06] would be do between them in
[1:56:07] connection with the agreements,
[1:56:09] with the sharing of
[1:56:10] responsibilities for
[1:56:11] maintenance, minor and major
[1:56:12] works on the three stations
[1:56:13] covering the period from January
[1:56:15] 1st, 2019, to May 31st, 2023.
[1:56:21] >> For 11.1 to 11.2, do I have a
[1:56:24] mover?
[1:56:26] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:56:27] >> And seconder?
[1:56:28] >> I Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:56:30] district three.
[1:56:31] >> All in favour?
[1:56:33] - 12.1 Déposer la liste des
[1:56:34] changements au personnel par
[1:56:35] décisions déléguées pour le mois
[1:56:36] d'avril 2024. >> 12.2 Approve
[1:56:41] the list of non-delegated staff
[1:56:42] changes as of April 2, 2024.
[1:56:45] - 12.3 Approuver une
[1:56:46] modification à la Politique sur
[1:56:47] les déplacements à la demande de
[1:56:48] l'employeur. Le taux annuel de
[1:56:51] remboursement par kilomètre est
[1:56:52] indexé de 1,45%.
[1:57:00] >> Sorry about that.
[1:57:01] - Des 12,1 à 12.3.
[1:57:09] -,. >> 14.1 Exercise the renewal
[1:57:18] option provided for in the
[1:57:19] contract entered into with
[1:57:20] MELOCHE, A DIVISION OF SINTRA
[1:57:21] and CONSTRUCTION DJL, for the
[1:57:22] period of mid-March 2024 to
[1:57:25] mid-March 2025, in the amount of
[1:57:27] $ 329,679.32, taxes included for
[1:57:31] the supply and the loading of
[1:57:33] hot-mix asphalt
[1:57:34] (excluding transport)
[1:57:35] . This multi-order contract
[1:57:38] ensures the
[1:57:40] [Inaudible]
[1:57:41] Asphalt in the event of an
[1:57:43] availability from the main
[1:57:44] supply.
[1:57:45] >> For 14.1, do I have a mover?
[1:57:47] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:57:48] >> And seconder? Tremblay,
[1:57:51] district six.
[1:57:52] >> All in favour?
[1:57:55] - 14.2 Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:57:56] des travaux horticoles
[1:57:57] d'entretien et de dégagement des
[1:57:58] vues en rive pour l'année 2024,
[1:58:01] à 9317-9083 QUÉBEC INC.
[1:58:02] (FAS GESTION FLORACOM)
[1:58:03] , Pour un montant total de
[1:58:04] 45514,92 $, taxes incluses, avec
[1:58:09] l'année 2025 en option. Ce
[1:58:11] contrat d'entretien et le
[1:58:12] dégagement des vues en rives est
[1:58:14] nécessaire pour assurer les
[1:58:15] travaux de maintien de la
[1:58:16] qualité des sites riverains.
[1:58:20] 14.3 Award a contract for
[1:58:21] horticultural maintenance and
[1:58:22] planting works at an hourly rate
[1:58:23] for the 2024 season, to
[1:58:27] 9042-0845 QUÉBEC INC.
[1:58:30] (MARIO C ET FILS)
[1:58:32] , For a total amount of $
[1:58:35] 80,160.57, taxes included, with
[1:58:36] the 2025 season in option. This
[1:58:41] contract will provide
[1:58:42] maintenance at an hourly rate
[1:58:44] upon request to complete various
[1:58:46] horticultural tasks, including
[1:58:47] minions of garden beds in parks
[1:58:49] and green spaces across the
[1:58:50] city.
[1:58:52] - 14.4 Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:58:53] des travaux horticoles et de
[1:58:54] plantation aux aménagements du
[1:58:55] boulevard Hymus pour l'année
[1:58:56] 2024, à 9190-8673 QUÉBEC INC.
[1:58:58] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSENEIGE)
[1:58:59] , Pour un montant total de
[1:59:00] 118579,47 $, taxes incluses. >>
[1:59:04] 14.5 Award a contract for
[1:59:05] planting and maintenance works
[1:59:09] of trees in root ball for the
[1:59:10] year 2024, to TERRASSEMENT
[1:59:12] TECHNIQUE SYLVAIN LABRECQUE INC.
[1:59:13] , For a total amount of $
[1:59:18] 266,454.56, taxes included, with
[1:59:19] two years in option. The Works
[1:59:22] consist of planting and
[1:59:24] maintaining 40 to 50 millimetres
[1:59:26] calibre trees in root ball,
[1:59:28] being a quantity of
[1:59:29] approximately 650 trees along
[1:59:31] the streets in parks and green
[1:59:33] spaces and in natural woodlands.
[1:59:34] The contract includes a
[1:59:35] warranty, as well as watering it
[1:59:37] means for a period of two years.
[1:59:38] And the trees are supplied by
[1:59:39] the City.
[1:59:41] - 14.6 Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:59:42] la fourniture et la livraison
[1:59:43] d'arbres, à PÉPINIÈRE Y. YVON
[1:59:44] AUCLAIR ET FILS pour le Lot A et
[1:59:46] à PÉPINIÈRE JARDIN 2000 INC.
[1:59:47] Pour le Lot B, pour un montant
[1:59:48] total de 149639,96 $ taxes
[1:59:52] incluses pour le Lot A et
[1:59:54] 64673,44 $ taxes incluses pour
[1:59:57] le Lot B. Le contrat des dans
[2:00:01] promettent ces inscrit dans le
[2:00:02] programme annuel de remplacement
[2:00:03] des arbres municipaux
[2:00:05] conjointement avec le programme
[2:00:07] de remplacement des frênes
[2:00:08] abattus selon la stratégie de
[2:00:09] lutte à l'agrile du frêne adopté
[2:00:10] en 2015 par le Conseil. >> 14.7
[2:00:14] Award a contract for stump
[2:00:15] removal works for the year 2024,
[2:00:17] to ÉLAGAGE PRESTIGE INC., For a
[2:00:19] total amount of $ 190,468.27,
[2:00:22] taxes included. These works
[2:00:26] include stump removal by
[2:00:28] mulching and service restoration
[2:00:30] by general seating or software
[2:00:33] required for an approximate
[2:00:34] quantity of 335 stumps for the
[2:00:36] year 2024.
[2:00:39] - 14.8 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:00:40] des services professionnels pour
[2:00:41] l'élaboration et le suivi du
[2:00:42] plan directeur du parc naturel
[2:00:43] Terra-Cotta pour les années 2024
[2:00:44] et 2025, à NADEAU FORESTERIE
[2:00:46] URBAINE INC., Pour un montant
[2:00:48] total de 95408,37 $, taxes
[2:00:51] incluses, avec trois années en
[2:00:52] option. Le contrat consiste à
[2:00:55] élaborer le plan directeur des
[2:00:56] activités sylvicole du parc
[2:00:58] naturel Terra-Cotta et d'en
[2:01:00] faire le suivi annuel avec une
[2:01:02] fibre spécialisée en foresterie
[2:01:04] urbaine et en aménagement de
[2:01:05] boisé urbains.
[2:01:09] - De 14,10 à 14,8. Do I have a
[2:01:11] mover?
[2:01:12] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:01:13] >> And seconder?
[2:01:15] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:01:17] >> All in favour? >> 14.9 Award
[2:01:21] a contract for the supply and
[2:01:22] the delivery of chemicals for
[2:01:24] outdoor swimming pools and
[2:01:25] splash pads for the period from
[2:01:27] April 2024 to March 2026, to
[2:01:30] AQUATECHNO SPÉCIALISTES
[2:01:31] AQUATIQUES INC., For a total
[2:01:33] amount of $ 74,874.02, taxes
[2:01:36] included, with one year in
[2:01:37] option. The chemicals are
[2:01:40] required to sanitize the water
[2:01:42] and it plays an important role
[2:01:44] in the maintenance, health, and
[2:01:46] longevity of the outdoor
[2:01:47] swimming pools and splash pads.
[2:01:49] - 14.10 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:01:50] la fourniture et livraison d'une
[2:01:51] surfaceuse à glace neuf, à
[2:01:53] ROBERT BOILEAU INC., Pour un
[2:01:54] montant total de 195013,69 $,
[2:01:56] taxes incluses. Ce contrat est
[2:02:00] l'achat d'une nouvelle
[2:02:01] surfaceuse de glace pour la
[2:02:02] patinoire Bob Bernie. >> 14.11
[2:02:06] Award a contract for the
[2:02:08] replacement and the installation
[2:02:09] of service connections, to
[2:02:10] EXCAVATION D. JOMPHE, for a
[2:02:11] total amount of $ 455,031.80,
[2:02:15] taxes included. This contract
[2:02:17] provides for the replacement
[2:02:19] installation of service
[2:02:20] connections for existing and new
[2:02:22] residential buildings in the
[2:02:23] city for the year 2024. The cost
[2:02:26] of the work is calculated based
[2:02:27] on the lowest compliant bidders
[2:02:29] price and is paid for by the
[2:02:31] permit applicants.
[2:02:36] - 14.12 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:02:38] la fourniture et la livraison de
[2:02:39] peinture et microbille de verre
[2:02:40] pour le marquage de chaussée, à
[2:02:42] ENNIS PAINT CANADA ULC, pour un
[2:02:45] montant total de 36899,16 $,
[2:02:49] taxes incluses. >> 14.13 Approve
[2:02:54] a change order -- sorry, go
[2:02:56] ahead.
[2:02:57] - Excuse-moi, Danielle. Je pense
[2:02:59] que c'est de 14,9 à 14,12. To
[2:03:02] have a mover?
[2:03:03] >> District to.
[2:03:04] >> Seconder?
[2:03:05] - Claude Cousineau, district un.
[2:03:07] >> Claude Cousineau.
[2:03:08] >> All in favour?
[2:03:10] >> So now, 14.13 Approve a
[2:03:16] change order to the contract
[2:03:17] entered into with MELOCHE,
[2:03:18] DIVISION DE SINTRA, for the
[2:03:19] supply and the delivery of
[2:03:20] ready-mix concrete, for an
[2:03:21] amount of $ 12,521.75, taxes
[2:03:22] included. The public works and
[2:03:26] deliver repaired more sidewalks
[2:03:27] and curbs during the 2023 season
[2:03:29] and it's such a high volume of
[2:03:32] ready mix concrete was acquired.
[2:03:35] - 14.14 Approuver l'évaluation
[2:03:36] de rendement insatisfaisant de
[2:03:38] BIOTHEC FORESTERIE INC. Dans le
[2:03:40] cadre de la réalisation du
[2:03:41] contrat pour des travaux
[2:03:44] d'arboriculture suite au verglas
[2:03:46] pour la période de l'été à
[2:03:47] l'automne 2023. Conformément à
[2:03:50] la Loi sur les cités et villes,
[2:03:52] la ville se réserve la
[2:03:53] possibilité de refuser tout de
[2:03:55] soumission de BIOTHEC FORESTERIE
[2:03:58] INC. Pour une période de 2 ans
[2:03:59] suivant l'approbation de
[2:04:01] l'évaluation finale de rendement
[2:04:02] insatisfaisant approuvée par le
[2:04:04] Conseil. >> 15.1 Exercise the
[2:04:09] renewal option provided for in
[2:04:10] the contract entered into with
[2:04:11] NOUVELLE TECHNOLOGIE
[2:04:12] (TEKNO)
[2:04:13] INC. And A.S.I. EXPERT
[2:04:15] AQUATIQUE, for the period of
[2:04:16] April 1, 2024, to March 31,
[2:04:17] 2025, in the amount of $
[2:04:21] 98,318.02, taxes included, for
[2:04:22] the supply and the delivery of
[2:04:24] chemicals for the City's
[2:04:25] swimming pools.
[2:04:28] - 15.2 Se prévaloir de l'option
[2:04:29] de renouvellement prévue au
[2:04:30] contrat intervenu avec AV-TECH
[2:04:31] INC., Pour la période du 1 avril
[2:04:32] 2024 au 31 mars 2025, au montant
[2:04:34] de 43420,31 $, taxes incluses,
[2:04:38] pour des services d'entretien,
[2:04:39] d'inspection et de réparation
[2:04:40] des génératrices de la Ville de
[2:04:41] PointeClaire. >> 15.3 Award a
[2:04:44] contract for repetitive
[2:04:45] maintenance and repair works on
[2:04:48] concrete surfaces and paving for
[2:04:50] the years 2024-2025 and
[2:04:51] 2025-2026, to LES TERRASSEMENTS
[2:04:54] MONTREAL INC., For a total
[2:04:57] amount of $ 439,457.63, taxes
[2:05:00] included, with three years in
[2:05:01] option.
[2:05:07] - Pour 14,13 à 15,3. Do I have a
[2:05:12] mover?
[2:05:14] >> And seconder?
[2:05:16] - Le Cousineau.
[2:05:17] All in favour? - Bruno Tremblay.
[2:05:23] - 15.4 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:05:24] des travaux d'entretien et de
[2:05:25] réparation des systèmes
[2:05:26] mécaniques pour la période de la
[2:05:27] mi-avril 2024 à la mi-avril
[2:05:28] 2026, à AV-TECH INC., Pour un
[2:05:30] montant total de 286109,30 $,
[2:05:33] taxes incluses, avec trois
[2:05:35] années en option. >> 15.5 Award
[2:05:38] a contract for the supply and
[2:05:39] the delivery of mechanical parts
[2:05:41] for HVAC systems for the period
[2:05:44] of mid-April 2024 to mid-March
[2:05:45] 2025, to TRANE CANADA ULC, for a
[2:05:49] total amount of $ 85,858.52,
[2:05:53] taxes included, with two years
[2:05:55] in option.
[2:05:58] - 15.6 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:05:59] des services professionnels pour
[2:06:00] une étude de réaménagement
[2:06:01] interne de l'Hôtel-de-Ville, à
[2:06:03] LEMAY CO INC., Pour un montant
[2:06:05] total de 70709,63 $, taxes
[2:06:08] incluses. Les espaces actuels de
[2:06:11] travail sont en pleine capacité,
[2:06:13] ce qui restreint la croissance
[2:06:14] des départements et qui ne
[2:06:16] favorisent pas la cohésion et la
[2:06:18] collaboration des différents
[2:06:19] services. >> 16.1 Award a
[2:06:21] contract for the reconstruction
[2:06:22] of Winthrop Avenue with the
[2:06:24] addition of a bike path, between
[2:06:25] Hymus Boulevard and Jubilee
[2:06:27] Square Avenue, to CONSTRUCTION
[2:06:29] CAMARA, for a total amount of $
[2:06:33] 2,989,349.99, taxes included.
[2:06:38] - 16.2 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:06:39] l'éclairage du Jardin de
[2:06:40] lecture, à LE GROUPE LML LTÉE,
[2:06:43] pour un montant total de
[2:06:45] 72174,69 $, taxes incluses. Dans
[2:06:50] le but d'augmenter la visibilité
[2:06:51] et la sécurité du jardin de
[2:06:53] lecture à l'arrière de la
[2:06:54] Bibliothèque centrale, le comité
[2:06:55] de sécurité interne leur
[2:06:58] recommande d'installer une
[2:06:59] caméra et un lampadaire. >> For
[2:07:04] 15.4 to 16.2, do I have a mover?
[2:07:08] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:07:09] district three.
[2:07:10] >> And seconder?
[2:07:11] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:07:12] >> All in favour?
[2:07:13] - Merci. >> 16.3 Award a
[2:07:16] contract for the supply of
[2:07:17] charging stations to be
[2:07:18] installed at several locations
[2:07:19] in the City of Pointe-Claire in
[2:07:20] 2024, to ADDÉNERGIE TECHNOLOGIES
[2:07:23] INC. FLO, for a total amount of
[2:07:27] $ 265,719.87, taxes included.
[2:07:31] The selected sites are as
[2:07:32] follows, City Hall, 94 Douglas
[2:07:35] Shand, the aquatic center,
[2:07:36] public works, Edgewater park,
[2:07:38] the central library, all of
[2:07:40] Urqhart sports center. And there
[2:07:42] will be charging stations for
[2:07:43] the public and others in city
[2:07:45] employees in municipal vehicles.
[2:07:48] - 16.4 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:07:50] l'installation de bornes de
[2:07:51] recharge, à 130132 CANADA INC.
[2:07:52] (LAROCHELLE ÉLECTRIQUE)
[2:07:53] , Pour un montant total de
[2:07:55] 539715,65 $, taxes incluses. En
[2:07:58] mettant de l'avant ces projets
[2:07:59] avant le 15 septembre 2024, la
[2:08:01] Ville de Pointe-Claire bénéficie
[2:08:02] d'un programme de subventions de
[2:08:04] bornes de recharge
[2:08:05] d'Hydro-Québec. Le programme
[2:08:06] circuit électrique est un
[2:08:07] programme de souvent si on
[2:08:08] déborde recharge du gouvernement
[2:08:10] du Québec où les verts pour
[2:08:11] l'achat à l'installation de
[2:08:12] bornes de recharge pour
[2:08:14] l'utilisation publique et
[2:08:15] privée, la flotte et les
[2:08:16] employés dans plusieurs endroits
[2:08:17] de la ville. En tout, le montant
[2:08:19] de la subvention totalise 416000
[2:08:22] dollars. >> 16.5 Award a
[2:08:26] contract for the resurfacing of
[2:08:27] the tennis and pickleball court
[2:08:29] at Northview Park, to 9190-8673
[2:08:30] QUÉBEC INC.
[2:08:32] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSE NEIGE)
[2:08:33] , For a total amount of $
[2:08:34] 485,701.08, taxes included.
[2:08:41] As March 12th meeting, Council
[2:08:46] awarded a contract to -- but an
[2:08:51] error was discovered towards a
[2:08:53] insurance document. It is
[2:08:54] therefore necessarily to rectify
[2:08:56] the air and award the contract
[2:08:58] to the lowest bidder, in this
[2:09:00] case, being 9190-8673 QUÉBEC
[2:09:01] INC.
[2:09:02] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSE NEIGE)
[2:09:03] , For a total amount of $
[2:09:05] 485,701.08. I did you, so the
[2:09:07] City must also terminate the
[2:09:10] contract award to the previous
[2:09:11] company, and convene resolution
[2:09:14] 2094 1:19.
[2:09:15] - 16,3 à 16,5. Do I have a
[2:09:19] mover?
[2:09:20] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:09:24] - Merci. All in favour? 17.1
[2:09:27] Considérer les plans
[2:09:28] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:09:29] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:09:30] propriété située au 80, avenue
[2:09:31] Broadview. Pour un
[2:09:33] agrandissement. >> 17.2 Consider
[2:09:34] the site planning and
[2:09:36] architectural integration
[2:09:37] programme plans with respect to
[2:09:38] the property situated at 24
[2:09:39] Claremont Avenue. It is four
[2:09:41] exterior renovations.
[2:09:42] - 17.3 Considérer les plans
[2:09:43] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:09:44] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:09:45] propriété située au 20, avenue
[2:09:48] Condover pour un agrandissement.
[2:09:49] >> 17.4 Consider the site
[2:09:51] planning and architectural
[2:09:52] integration programme plans with
[2:09:53] respect to the property situated
[2:09:54] at 2 Hillside Avenue. For solar
[2:09:58] panel installation.
[2:10:00] >> For 17.1 to 17.4, do I have a
[2:10:03] mover?
[2:10:04] >> I move that Council except
[2:10:06] the site planning and
[2:10:08] architectural integration plans
[2:10:10] for 17.1 for 17.4. Brent Cowan,
[2:10:13] district eight.
[2:10:14] >> And seconder?
[2:10:16] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:10:17] district three.
[2:10:18] >> All in favour?
[2:10:23] - 18.1 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:10:24] des services professionnels pour
[2:10:25] la location d'une patinoire
[2:10:26] extérieure réfrigérée, d'un
[2:10:27] sentier extérieur réfrigéré et
[2:10:29] d'une zamboni, à SYNERGLACE
[2:10:31] CANADA INC., Pour un montant
[2:10:32] total de 374841,50 $, taxes
[2:10:36] incluses. L'Allocation est de la
[2:10:40] mi-octobre 2024 à la mi-avril
[2:10:42] 2025 avec deux options de
[2:10:44] renouvellement.
[2:10:47] - Pour 18.1.
[2:10:48] Do I have a mover?
[2:10:49] - Claude Cousineau, district un.
[2:10:51] >> And seconder? - Paul
[2:10:53] Bissonnette, district deux. All
[2:10:54] in favour?
[2:10:57] >> Against.
[2:11:07] >> 19 point, one order contract
[2:11:10] to constructions genesis for the
[2:11:12] reconstruction between -- Duke
[2:11:13] of Canada Douglas Cheng avenues
[2:11:15] for an event of 1 million
[2:11:21] $848,709.47, taxes included. A
[2:11:24] 743,000 dollar grant from the
[2:11:25] Québec's -- is attached to this
[2:11:27] project.
[2:11:29] - 19.2, octroyer un contrat
[2:11:32] concernant la reconstruction de
[2:11:33] l'avenue Mount Cris et l'avenue
[2:11:35] Millie Venne entre l'avenue
[2:11:36] (---)
[2:11:37] à excavation Grey qu'on pour un
[2:11:39] montant total de 3 millions
[2:11:40] 425752 dollars et 40 sous taxes
[2:11:44] incluses. Une subvention de 1
[2:11:45] million 675000 dollars est
[2:11:47] attaché à ce contrat provenant
[2:11:49] du programme Primeau du
[2:11:50] gouvernement du Québec.
[2:11:54] - Pour 19.1 et 19.2.
[2:12:06] All in favour? Closure, for
[2:12:09] closure to I have a mover?
[2:12:10] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:12:11] >> And seconder?
[2:12:13] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:12:14] >> All in favour?
[2:12:17] - Merci, tout le monde. Thanks
[2:12:18] everyone, have a good evening.
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