[0:40] >> You guys hear me? We are
[0:41] good? We have power. Here we
[0:45] have our. Ladies and gentlemen,
[0:51] good evening and welcome to the
[0:52] June 4th meeting.
[1:08] [Speaking French]
[1:15] With the warm weather, it's nice
[1:17] to know that our splash pads are
[1:18] now open and they're very
[1:20] popular with our young citizens.
[1:21] The outdoor pools will welcome
[1:23] their for swimmers and divers on
[1:24] June 15th.
[1:42] [Speaking French]
[1:50] Kelly, he's been training with
[1:52] Pointe-Claire aquatic Club for
[1:53] over five years as a diver, will
[1:55] be part of the Canadian team for
[1:56] a second time. Nathan's -- butt
[2:03] [Speaking French]
[2:15] Nathan is a native of
[2:17] Pointe-Claire. He's been
[2:18] training with the Pointe-Claire
[2:19] aquatic hub for over 15 years.
[2:21] He's also participating in the
[2:23] second time. Patrick husky was
[2:27] selected to represent the
[2:29] Canadian team
[2:32] [Speaking French]
[2:41] Patrick trying to point clear
[2:42] swimming club at a very young
[2:44] age. He was elected to represent
[2:45] the Canadian team as a swimmer,
[2:47] following his excellent
[2:49] performances at the Olympic
[2:51] trials.
[2:57] [Speaking French]
[3:16] To promote accessibility amongst
[3:19] citizens and employees, the city
[3:21] is pleased to be able to count
[3:22] on the presence of the
[3:23] accessibility committee to help
[3:24] us better understand the reality
[3:26] of people living with a
[3:28] disability. In consequently,
[3:30] target our actions to approve
[3:32] universal accessibility on the
[3:34] territory, in our actions, and
[3:36] our projects. Whether it's
[3:38] through training for our
[3:40] employees, through our programs
[3:41] and activities at the library,
[3:43] and our parks, or through the
[3:45] deployment of an inclusive
[3:47] playground in the development of
[3:48] accessible facilities, we are
[3:50] pursuing our efforts to achieve
[3:52] ever greater inclusivity.
[3:56] [Speaking French]
[4:53] >> We wish offer most your
[4:55] condolences to Mr. -- on May
[4:57] 29th, 2024. He was employed by
[5:00] the City from 1960 5:10 1997,
[5:05] with 31 years of service at the
[5:07] time of his retirement. He was
[5:09] foreman in public works.
[5:15] [Speaking French]
[6:14] The City of Pointe-Claire is
[6:16] continuing its efforts to reduce
[6:17] its ecological footprint and
[6:19] accelerate its commitment to our
[6:20] ecological transition and
[6:22] environmental protection. Thanks
[6:24] to our, this environmental
[6:26] gesture, Pointe-Claire is the
[6:27] first municipality to prove, by
[6:30] obtaining renewable energy
[6:31] certificates, or eat sees, that
[6:33] it consumes energy from 100%
[6:35] renewable sources. We will
[6:37] continue our efforts to make
[6:38] Pointe-Claire a model of
[6:39] environmental sustainability and
[6:42] resilience.
[6:45] [Speaking French]
[7:32] [Speaking French]
[7:40] This evening, will be voting to
[7:42] adopt a bylaw that will
[7:43] influence our drinking water
[7:45] consumption for years to come.
[7:46] This bylaw, which stems from a
[7:49] ministerial obligation, is an
[7:51] important step in the management
[7:52] of drinking water for both
[7:54] consumers and businesses in our
[7:55] town.
[8:04] -- Washing of parking lots,
[8:06] automatic sprinklers, et cetera,
[8:07] to you. Rest assured, we will
[8:09] support our citizens in this
[8:13] transition. In light of these
[8:14] important environmental issues,
[8:15] we are still looking for a
[8:17] citizen to sit on the cities
[8:19] environment committee.
[8:25] And I reverse the order as
[8:27] always. I should've done with
[8:28] the Councillors reports first,
[8:29] so I will start with Councillor
[8:32] Cowan.
[8:34] >> Thank you, I am sort of
[8:35] barely hear. I just came back
[8:37] from a business trip to Bangkok
[8:39] and I'm still on Bangkok time,
[8:42] so I will try to stay awake.
[8:47] >> Councillor casino?
[8:53] [Speaking French]
[9:19] Ça s'appelle Pepper Hughes,
[9:21] depuis la fin des années 60. On
[9:23] a manqué une subvention de
[9:25] 183000 dollars parce qu'on
[9:28] n'avait pas ce règlement
[9:32] ridicule, ridicule et
[9:34] probablement qu'à Québec, ils
[9:36] ont dit: eille, Pointe-Claire,
[9:39] depuis la fin des années 60, ça
[9:41] a marché leur affaire. Omar
[9:46] pénalisé pour ne pas avoir une
[9:50] loi qui restreint l'utilisation
[9:52] de l'eau. Je vais continuer un
[9:55] peu plus tard, mais il est temps
[9:59] que... en tout cas, moi, ma
[10:01] décision est pris depuis
[10:02] longtemps. C'est effrayant ce
[10:05] que vous, les payeurs de taxes,
[10:07] vous faites faire avec Québec,
[10:10] Montréal, l'angle où est la
[10:12] sixième. Il faut faire quelque
[10:14] chose. Je ne pense pas que mes
[10:17] amis autour de la table sont
[10:19] d'accord, mais moi, je crois
[10:22] qu'il est grand temps. Merci!
[10:33] Bonsoir! Juste un petit rappel
[10:35] que je
[10:37] (inaudible)
[10:38] rencontre avec les citoyens le
[10:39] 15 et 16 juin, à des différents
[10:43] lieux.
[10:44] (inaudible)
[10:45] Les Viau et
[10:46] (inaudible)
[10:47] vous êtes les bienvenus.
[10:53] -- The -- 16th Mason can be
[10:57] found on my newsletter or you
[10:59] can contact me or check my
[11:02] Facebook. Merci.
[11:03] Merci!
[11:06] - Bonsoir,! >> Good evening. I
[11:08] would just like to thank Madam
[11:11] Verdun for organizing the
[11:12] meeting with her team. As you
[11:14] know, there is construction
[11:15] going on at lakeside, lakeshore,
[11:18] and it's changing for various
[11:20] reasons. There will eventually
[11:22] be a meeting that to explain
[11:24] where they are going, but the
[11:25] factors have been changing. And
[11:28] so, it's in very important.
[11:31] Saturday, the -- Pulitzer
[11:34] registration and the president
[11:35] would be able to like to tell
[11:36] the people what's going to
[11:38] happen, where they are going to
[11:39] go, so they made an excellent
[11:40] presentation which helped him
[11:42] tremendously because he was able
[11:43] to advise him at the same time
[11:45] Saturday. This is up until July
[11:48] 15th, this is what you should do
[11:49] and here's what you should do
[11:50] after, here's what's going to
[11:51] happen. Vous avez juste à
[11:54] remercier madame Verdon pour
[11:56] avoir organisé la rainure avec
[11:57] son équipe. Mardi passé. Pour
[12:02] permettre au président du club
[12:04] de natation... elles, autres ils
[12:07] ont des compétitions l'été. Il y
[12:09] a beaucoup de gens qui voyagent,
[12:10] ce n'est pas juste les gens de
[12:11] la place. Les autres clubs
[12:13] viennent et tout ça. C'est
[12:14] important qu'ils sachent comment
[12:16] circuler. Ils ont fait une très
[12:17] bonne présentation et
[12:20] (inaudible)
[12:21] . Samedi matin, ils ont pu dire
[12:22] à ces gens: voici ce que vous
[12:23] devez faire, ce qui enlève
[12:24] beaucoup de pression et c'est
[12:25] plus facile est proactif que
[12:27] réactifs, je pense. So, thank
[12:29] you.
[12:30] Merci! >> Councillor Homan?
[12:32] >> I will just say good evening,
[12:33] I don't really have too much to
[12:34] say and the project we have
[12:35] going on our two streets,
[12:36] Monterrey and mill haven.
[12:43] We're really excited to have
[12:44] that happening and so far, the
[12:45] projects are going well. So,
[12:49] [Inaudible]
[12:50] >> Councillor Tremblay?
[12:53] Councillor Thorstad-Cullen?
[12:56] >> Good evening. I just would
[12:58] like to thank the City of
[13:00] Pointe-Claire teams for making
[13:01] sure that those splash pads did
[13:03] get opened. I saw many happy
[13:06] young ones in the bow a splash
[13:09] pad over these warm weather
[13:10] days, so it's fantastic. Thank
[13:11] you for making sure that was
[13:12] done early. And I have received
[13:14] quite a few requests and
[13:16] concerns about the work that is
[13:17] being done on the sources
[13:21] overpass. We know it's
[13:22] cumbersome and it's difficult to
[13:24] navigate all around Donegani and
[13:29] on to the ramp leading on the
[13:30] highway 20. About the work is
[13:33] continuing and they are trying
[13:35] to complete it as soon as
[13:36] possible, and when it is
[13:38] complete, you will see the
[13:39] removal of all the large
[13:40] containers that have been on
[13:41] site all around the cubic area.
[13:44] It's needed and required for the
[13:45] work that is going on there. And
[13:47] in addition, there's been some
[13:49] concerns about noise complaints,
[13:51] but our provincial work does
[13:53] have extended hours to try to
[13:55] get more work done when it's
[13:57] attached to a major highway. So,
[13:59] we thank everyone for their
[14:01] patients. We understand that
[14:02] it's difficult, but it will be
[14:03] nice for us to have a safer
[14:05] overpass to drive on.
[14:06] >> Councillor Stork?
[14:09] >> The work at the tennis court
[14:10] is moving along, it's on time,
[14:11] it's on project. Juste une
[14:12] couple de points mentionnés
[14:13] concernant
[14:14] (inaudible)
[14:15] .
[14:20] So, that's going well. Also,
[14:22] you'll notice in front of the
[14:23] Shelley dated a whole bunch of
[14:24] digging up for a path that's on
[14:26] the future planned to be
[14:28] re-done, that's all being
[14:29] addressed. Also, a reminder
[14:31] tomorrow night is a meeting here
[14:32] in the room -- reconstruction of
[14:33] Winthrop. Demain soir, c'est la
[14:34] réunion.
[14:37] Unfortunately, I will not be
[14:39] there. I will be travelling with
[14:40] my colleagues on a conference.
[14:43] But that is scheduled tomorrow.
[14:45] The plans were all out. Posing
[14:47] again the plans tonight for
[14:49] people to see. Outside of that,
[14:51] also the Winthrop construction,
[14:52] I found out won't overlap with
[14:54] the Delaware construction cause
[14:56] we already have a lot going on
[14:57] in the area. So, we don't want
[14:59] to lose to large north, south
[15:02] arteries in that area. As well,
[15:04] I will be having a town hall in
[15:06] September and one of the big
[15:07] issues obviously, Northview
[15:09] number seven is a construction
[15:10] of the -- building. As
[15:12] information provides itself, we
[15:14] will make it available and as
[15:17] well, I don't see anything
[15:18] happening really before
[15:19] September. I might be wrong but
[15:21] that will be the primary topic
[15:22] of conversation for the town
[15:25] hall that will be held. That is
[15:26] it, thank you, Mister Mayor.
[15:28] >> Okay, Madam Thibault? Bon
[15:35] alors, un virgule adoption du
[15:38] (inaudible)
[15:40] For the adoption of the agenda,
[15:42] do I have a mover?
[15:43] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[15:44] district 12.
[15:45] >> And seconder?
[15:48] Tremblay, seigneurie. >> All it
[15:50] favour?
[15:52] >> 2.1, pick proclaimed June
[15:54] 26th, 2020, for the national
[15:55] councillor wellness awareness
[15:58] day.
[16:08] 3.1 Approuver le procès-verbal
[16:09] de la séance ordinaire du 7 mai
[16:10] 2024. >> Do I have a mover?
[16:11] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[16:12] district three.
[16:13] >> And seconder?
[16:14] .
[16:15] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[16:16] >> All in favour? Question
[16:18] period.
[16:19] Pour la période de questions ce
[16:21] soir. À la période de questions,
[16:22] vous avez été accueilli à
[16:23] l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la
[16:25] période des questions.
[16:27] L'intention de cette démarche
[16:29] est d'abord de permettre aux
[16:30] personnes de demeurer assise
[16:34] jusqu'à l'appel de
[16:35] (inaudible)
[16:36] est d'accorder l'appel aux
[16:38] crises... résidents et
[16:39] résidentes de Pointe-Claire.
[16:41] Nous garderons 90 minutes pour
[16:44] la période de questions, une
[16:46] personne à la fois au micro.
[16:48] Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[16:51] que les citoyens aient terminé
[16:53] de poser sa question et que vous
[16:54] soyez appelés avant de vous
[16:56] lever pour venir poser votre
[17:00] question. Les non-résidents
[17:01] présents pourront poser leurs
[17:03] questions, par la suite, si le
[17:05] temps n'est pas écoulé. >> For
[17:07] question period tonight, you are
[17:08] greeted at the entrance to
[17:09] register for the question
[17:10] period.
[17:12] The goal of this approach is to
[17:13] allow people to remain seated
[17:15] until their name is called, and
[17:16] give priority to Pointe-Claire
[17:18] residents. We shall stick to the
[17:20] 90 minute time limit for
[17:21] question period. One person at a
[17:23] time at the microphone. Thank
[17:26] you for waiting for a citizen to
[17:27] finish asking their question and
[17:29] you will be called before you
[17:30] get up to ask yours.
[17:32] Nonresidents present will be
[17:33] able to ask questions afterwards
[17:35] if there is still time. And
[17:37] first up is David Johnson.
[17:44] >> Can you hear me?
[17:45] >> Yes.
[17:46] >> Good evening. Bonsoir à tous.
[17:50] Seven weeks ago, the National
[17:52] Assembly tabled Bill 57.
[17:55] Proposed legislation designed to
[17:57] fine citizens up to 1500 dollars
[18:00] for harassment of mayors, City
[18:02] Councillors, and members of the
[18:04] national assembly. And up to
[18:06] $500 for citizens disrupting
[18:09] Council meetings. Very brief
[18:11] public hearings were held in May
[18:13] and the bill is expected to
[18:15] become law later this month.
[18:18] More than 106 of, 125 citizens
[18:22] groups have come out against the
[18:24] bill and several veteran
[18:25] municipal observers have
[18:26] expressed their own concerns,
[18:29] including professor Danielle
[18:31] pilot of UQAM, University of
[18:34] Québec in Montréal, writing
[18:35] three weeks ago in the magazine
[18:38] policy options, which is
[18:40] published by the institute for
[18:41] research on public policy here
[18:42] in Montréal,. She said, among
[18:46] other things, that one feeling
[18:47] of Bill 57 is that it does not
[18:50] put in place a mechanism to help
[18:52] citizens understand what
[18:55] constitutes harassment. Or good
[18:58] conduct from bad at council
[19:00] meetings. She says,
[19:02] municipalities need bylaws and
[19:03] lay out rules for question
[19:05] period, and for the formulation
[19:06] of questions, and acceptable
[19:09] comments. Now, I didn't know
[19:11] that Pointe-Claire had a bylaw
[19:13] governing question period until
[19:15] a couple of months ago. Our
[19:18] bylaw prohibits applause,
[19:21] personal attacks, and innuendo.
[19:23] I would like to ask whether you,
[19:26] Mister Mayor, and Council might
[19:28] be agreeable to put in a copy of
[19:30] the rules for question period on
[19:32] the table here beside me, which
[19:34] is where copies of the meeting
[19:36] agendas are already placed. They
[19:38] could be placed side by side or
[19:40] stapled together. Thank you.
[19:43] >> Okay, it's a good idea, I
[19:45] don't see why not. Normand
[19:51] Dupont.
[19:57] Bonsoir! J'aimerais savoir s'il
[20:00] y a une possibilité de mettre de
[20:03] la signalisation sur l'entier
[20:07] pour non camion, pas de camions.
[20:09] C'est incroyable le nombre de
[20:10] camions qui passent sur et
[20:13] qu'ils n'ont pas d'affaire à
[20:14] faire du tout dans le village.
[20:15] Quand ils ont affaire dans les
[20:16] villages, ils pourraient passer
[20:17] autrement. Encore samedi passé,
[20:21] la semi-remorque qui est allé au
[20:23] golf pour amener les produits
[20:26] pour la cuisine à passer sera
[20:30] Lanthier. Il y a une entrée au
[20:33] golf. Je ne comprends pas. Il y
[20:34] a quelques mois, on en avait pas
[20:35] avec monsieur Cousineau on avait
[20:37] eu une réunion avec quelques
[20:40] résidents ça avait été
[20:41] mentionné, Monsieur Cousineau,
[20:43] de mettre de la signalisation
[20:45] pour nos camions. Je ne sais pas
[20:46] où c'est rendu, je ne sais pas
[20:48] si monsieur Cousineau s'en est
[20:51] occupé...
[20:52] - Je ne me souviens pas de cette
[20:54] conversation-là. On a parlé...
[21:01] (problème technique)
[21:02] .
[25:22] Monsieur Dupont. Est-ce qu'on a
[25:23] déjà répondu? C'était correct?
[25:27] >> Did we finish with Mr. do
[25:29] pond? - Non.
[25:30] I think we did. - Monsieur
[25:32] Dupont n'a pas l'air d'accord
[25:33] avec ma réponse. Vous avez une
[25:40] deuxième question, Monsieur, si
[25:41] vous voulez.
[25:42] - Non, c'était cette question-là
[25:43] à savoir si c'était possible de
[25:45] mettre de la signalisation qui
[25:46] empêchent les camions de passer.
[25:49] Monsieur Cousineau ne se
[25:50] rappelle pas, mais quand on a eu
[25:51] la réunion, il n'avait pas été
[25:52] dans son livre...
[25:54] - Ce que je me souviens, c'était
[25:56] sur un autre sujet.
[25:59] (---)
[26:00] Ce n'était pas sur un autre
[26:01] sujet. Vous me l'avez pointé
[26:02] dans votre livre. Vous étiez
[26:03] assis à côté de. Moi
[26:04] - Je regrette, mais je ne l'ai
[26:05] pas fait suivre. Je ne l'aurais
[26:07] pas fait suivre au conseil, je
[26:09] l'aurais fait suivre au comité
[26:10] de circulation. J'ai peut-être
[26:13] eu une réponse à ce moment-là,
[26:15] mais je ne me souviens pas du
[26:16] tout. Je m'en excuse. Ce ne sera
[26:20] plus un problème dans 1 an et
[26:23] demi.
[26:24] - Pourquoi? Pourquoi?
[26:28] - C'est ma deuxième question? Il
[26:30] n'y a pas de débat.
[26:31] - Je veux juste savoir.
[26:32] - Mais c'est votre deuxième
[26:35] question.
[26:36] - J'ai juste une question, c'est
[26:37] ça. La circulation sur l'entier,
[26:39] les camions... Lanthier, pardon.
[26:44] - Comme je vous ai déjà, dit je
[26:46] ne me souviens pas des
[26:47] événements, je regrette. Je ne
[26:50] me souviens pas de l'avoir
[26:52] transmis même au comité de
[26:56] circulation et je ne me souviens
[26:57] pas de cette conversation qui a
[27:00] eu lieu probablement après le 23
[27:04] avril après l'élection. Merci.
[27:09] - Est-ce que vous pouvez faire
[27:10] quelque chose?
[27:11] - Ça dépend du comité de
[27:13] circulation. Ça peut être
[27:15] difficile d'arrêter les camions
[27:17] sur la rue Lanthier.
[27:19] >> It is a big ask., Mais on
[27:21] peut essayer de faire quelque
[27:22] chose. C'est le comité de
[27:24] circulation qui décide ça.
[27:26] - Vous arrivez en phase de
[27:27] Lanthier, vous le voyez, c'est
[27:29] aberrant.
[27:30] - C'est souvent qui paye, mais
[27:32] il y a pas d'autres places dans
[27:33] le village. Lakeshore est pire.
[27:37] (inaudible)
[27:38] Il y a bien des camions qui
[27:39] passent sur Lanthier et qui s'en
[27:41] vont à Beaconsfield, par
[27:43] exemple.
[27:44] - Oui.
[27:45] (inaudible)
[27:46] Qu'il y ait quelque chose qui
[27:47] soit fait pour ça. Je veux dire,
[27:48] à un moment donné...
[27:51] - Les business ont besoin de
[27:53] faire leurs livraisons. Je pense
[27:54] qu'il n'y a pas d'autres
[27:57] solutions pour ça.
[27:58] - Ils peuvent faire les
[27:59] livraisons plus tôt le matin.
[28:00] - Oui, peut-être. Peut-être
[28:02] qu'on peut faire des règles, on
[28:03] ne sait jamais.
[28:04] - Merci.
[28:05] - O.K.. Monsieur Clément.
[28:13] - Bonjour, je m'appelle entrer
[28:15] clairement et j'habite au huit
[28:16] golf à Pointe-Claire.
[28:20] Dernièrement j'ai su qu'il y a
[28:21] eu une demande de changement de
[28:23] zonage pour le bâtiment qui est
[28:26] juste au sud de chez nous qui
[28:27] est le six golfe. Pour en faire
[28:31] une demande, c'est une zonage
[28:35] résidentiel, on veut en faire un
[28:37] zonage résidentiel...
[28:39] (---)
[28:40] personnellement, je suis contre
[28:42] ça. J'habite la maison... six
[28:46] golf, elle est très proche. On
[28:47] regarde la rue, la maison est
[28:49] collé sur l'allée tout au long,
[28:50] collé sur la ligne de notre
[28:52] terrain est très proche. En
[28:54] plus, chez nous, c'est une
[28:55] maison ancestrale. C'est en
[28:57] avant de toutes les maisons de
[28:58] la rue, donc la moitié de la
[29:00] maison quasiment chez nous donne
[29:01] sur le terrain du six golf. Ce
[29:07] qui arrive c'est que le zonage
[29:10] qui est demandé... je sais qu'il
[29:14] ne... vous ne pouvez pas en
[29:16] parler, mais je sais que combien
[29:17] d'personnes veulent servir à
[29:19] manger. Pourquoi je suis contre
[29:22] et la plupart des citoyens avec
[29:23] qui j'ai parlé de ça,
[29:25] imaginez-vous le va-et-vient du
[29:27] monde qui rentrent et qui
[29:28] sortent de cette glace-là quand
[29:30] il y a eu un souper, un dîner et
[29:32] tout ça. Le bruit que ça peut
[29:34] faire, la proximité qu'on est
[29:36] chez nous, une belle grande
[29:38] galerie, on est assis. 4 mètres
[29:40] à côté, le terrain est là. Une
[29:44] fois que le permis est accordé,
[29:47] après ça, c'est quoi qui va se
[29:49] passer en avant? Ça va-tu être
[29:50] un stationnement? Ça va être une
[29:54] terrasse? Ça, on s'imagine que
[29:59] quand ils rentrent une
[30:01] quarantaine de personnes et qui
[30:02] sort, le bruit que ça peut
[30:04] amener, le changement... ça a un
[30:08] impact. L'impact que ça amène,
[30:12] ça change la qualité de vie ça.
[30:15] Comment je peux dire? C'est une
[30:17] maison qui est résidentiel,
[30:18] pourquoi ils ne restent pas
[30:20] résidentiel? Comme je vous dis,
[30:28] Tom... les gens qui j'ai parlé
[30:31] dans la rue, ils sont opposés à
[30:32] ça parce qu'on le sait tout ce
[30:34] qui fait la demande, on sait
[30:37] qui... prochainement, je sais
[30:39] que vous avez un vote à prendre
[30:40] sur le sujet. Une de mes
[30:45] questions, ce serait: allez-vous
[30:48] prendre en considération ce que
[30:49] les gens de la rue veulent? Le
[30:56] changement de zonage c'est la
[30:58] qualité de vie, si vous allez
[31:01] prendre en considération la
[31:02] qualité de vie. Qu'est-ce que ça
[31:03] va changer pour nous autres,
[31:05] chez nous et le voisinage
[31:06] alentour et les gens de la rue?
[31:08] Veut veut pas, ça fait bien du
[31:10] monde de plus dans la rue pour
[31:12] le stationnement, le va-et-vient
[31:14] et toutes. Mon autre question
[31:18] c'est ce vote-là. Vous avez un
[31:20] vote à prendre, quand est-ce que
[31:22] ça va être pris, ça?
[31:25] - La deuxième, c'est une bonne
[31:27] question s'il y aura un vote...
[31:28] on n'a pas décidé, il n'y a pas
[31:30] encore des votes. C'est en débat
[31:33] maintenant, on n'a pas fait de
[31:35] décision pour voter. Je pense
[31:37] qu'on n'est pas là, mais je suis
[31:39] d'accord avec ce que vous avez
[31:41] dit au début, votre première
[31:44] question. Je comprends bien le
[31:45] quartier, je connais bien,
[31:47] j'habite pas loin. Je suis
[31:49] d'accord un peu avec vos
[31:51] sentiments et il faut comprendre
[31:54] les perspectives des gens de la
[31:56] rue, il faut. Pour faire la
[31:59] décision, on ne sait jamais. On
[32:01] va voir, ce n'est pas encore
[32:04] décidé.
[32:05] - Oui parce que comme je dis,
[32:06] c'est beau prendre en
[32:08] considération le vendeur,
[32:12] l'acheteur et les résidents, on
[32:13] en fait quoi? Il faut penser à
[32:15] l'impact que ça amène. Si on
[32:16] commence à dézoner une maison,
[32:18] après ça, c'est quoi le
[32:20] prochain? C'est un changement de
[32:23] zonage, ce n'est pas rien. Ça
[32:25] change la qualité de la vie des
[32:26] gens et j'espère que vous allez
[32:27] le prendre en considération de
[32:29] toutes les gens de la rue et
[32:31] qu'est-ce qu'ils en pensez le
[32:32] voisinage.
[32:33] - Absolument. Ça peut changer le
[32:35] stationnement aussi. Il y a des
[32:36] questions autour de ce débat, il
[32:37] y a beaucoup de questions, je
[32:39] comprends bien.
[32:41] - S'il y a un vote qui a lieu,
[32:43] est-ce qu'on va être avisé.
[32:45] J'aimerais ça t'aviser.
[32:48] - Comme voisins immédiats Roy...
[32:52] - Au niveau du processus, pour
[32:54] un changement de zonage, le
[32:56] processus sait qu'il va avoir...
[32:58] il faut qu'il y a une ville
[32:59] aussi qui est déposé, ce n'est
[33:01] pas le cas présentement... il va
[33:03] avoir une première rencontre
[33:04] avec le conseil municipal, il va
[33:05] avoir un premier vote par la,
[33:07] suite il y a des avis publics,
[33:08] nous avons une consultation
[33:09] publique, un processus
[33:11] référendaire et tout s'enclenche
[33:13] jusqu'à
[33:14] (inaudible)
[33:15] du zonage. C'est sûr que vous
[33:16] allez être informé.
[33:17] - Comme ça, du moment que ses
[33:18] bottés, comme voisins immédiats,
[33:20] je ne suis pas avisée
[33:21] immédiatement où...
[33:22] - Premièrement, il faut faire un
[33:25] dépôt de règlements. Je vais
[33:27] essayer de faire ça simple. On a
[33:28] vu une, motion un dépôt de
[33:29] règlements et c'est à ce
[33:30] moment-là que cette vie publique
[33:31] est là, il est tout un processus
[33:33] qui va s'enclencher avec les
[33:36] citoyens. Les premiers votent
[33:37] c'est seulement pour aviser les
[33:39] gens qu'il y a un dépôt au
[33:40] règlement. Vous allez avoir
[33:41] accès à ce règlement-là.
[33:43] Regardez et là, vous allez avoir
[33:45] comme toutes les processus de
[33:46] consultation et les processus
[33:48] (inaudible)
[33:52] - Si c'est en faveur, les gens
[33:54] dans la rue, ils n'en veulent
[33:55] pas et ça va être une demande de
[33:57] référendum?
[33:58] - Si justement. Il va voir le
[33:59] processus référendaire, donc
[34:00] vous allez faire un dépôt. On
[34:02] ouvre les registres
[34:03] référendaires, les citoyens vont
[34:04] peut venir s'enregistrer au
[34:05] registre. Ça va revenir au
[34:07] conseil va avoir des décisions
[34:08] qui vont se prendre à ce
[34:09] moment-là.
[34:10] - Je comprends qu'il y a des
[34:11] plages de temps si on ne veut
[34:12] pas manquer non plus. C'est pour
[34:15] ça que j'aimerais ça t'aviser
[34:16] parce qu'à un moment donné,
[34:17] qu'on peut faire un référendum,
[34:19] je veux le comprendre, je vais
[34:20] le connaître comme il faut. Où
[34:22] je peux aller pour ça et qui qui
[34:23] va me le dire?
[34:25] - Ça va être maître Thibault.
[34:28] - Vous avez beaucoup de
[34:32] questions. Vous êtes permis
[34:33] d'avoir deux. Vous avez eu
[34:36] plusieurs, alors je pense que
[34:39] madame Verdugo a bien répondu.
[34:40] La décision, on n'est pas là. Je
[34:44] comprends bien ce que vous avez
[34:45] dit. Je comprends très bien ce
[34:47] que vous avez. Le conseil
[34:49] comprend bien.
[34:50] - Merci beaucoup d'avoir écouté.
[34:51] - Merci beaucoup.
[34:56] >> Diana -- did I say that
[34:57] right, Diana?
[34:59] À peu près.
[35:04] >> Thank you so much for letting
[35:06] me talk. My name -- is it better
[35:10] now? Okay, my name is Diana -- I
[35:14] live on 182 -- Avenue. I live in
[35:18] this house for the last 26 years
[35:22] and Laval city and appreciate
[35:24] all of that City Council always
[35:26] puts into green and
[35:28] horticultural initiatives. It
[35:29] was great on the mayor, Mike --
[35:35] next mayors. Unfortunately, the
[35:38] recent changes severely punish
[35:41] homeowners. I would like to
[35:42] address it. First, it's a
[35:46] compost that we all ecologically
[35:50] can -- we put compost in the
[35:52] green bin, collect everything
[35:55] that can be composted, put every
[35:57] week, regardless of season. In
[36:00] the past, when the eco centre
[36:03] was open, like May to October,
[36:05] every month when it was
[36:07] ecocentre days, the City was
[36:09] giving us, the citizens, the
[36:12] compost. And it's very important
[36:16] for the gardeners, for citizens,
[36:19] it was very good to have access
[36:21] to compost six times a year,
[36:24] whatever. And now, it's severely
[36:27] curbed., Like last year, it was
[36:29] announced it will be only two
[36:31] times, Wednesday -- the last I
[36:33] believe of the season. I think
[36:37] it's not nice for us. It should
[36:39] be changed immediately. Because
[36:41] we do give, we do our share of
[36:44] work, composting, and we don't
[36:47] get stuff back. Second thing,
[36:50] it's mulch, it's the same
[36:52] question. It used to be when it
[36:53] was compost, it was always
[36:54] giving us the mulch. And we do
[36:58] collect branches, we used to put
[37:01] them all in the parking lot near
[37:03] the terracotta and it was great.
[37:06] Now, I see that nothing is done.
[37:08] I came to the City Hall and
[37:10] asked the public works, and they
[37:12] told me it will not be done
[37:15] anymore. Only on ecocentre days.
[37:17] But even ecocentre now, not
[37:18] every month, but even every two
[37:21] months. So, summer gets warmer,
[37:24] we need to protect the plants
[37:26] and it's ecological way. You
[37:29] were saying before that the
[37:31] Pointe-Claire was a very
[37:32] ecological city and I think it's
[37:33] a good way to help citizens
[37:37] also, so please consider giving
[37:39] back mulch to citizens. The last
[37:42] thing, it's also related with
[37:44] that, we plant beautiful tulips
[37:48] and everything every season, and
[37:50] we love our city for doing it.
[37:53] My question is, for example,
[37:56] when you finish the when the
[37:59] city workers finished planning
[38:00] and they have some leftovers,
[38:03] maybe give it to citizens and
[38:05] another thing, when you take out
[38:06] the bulbs when it gets finished
[38:13] flowering, why not give it to
[38:17] citizens? Again, I asked the
[38:18] public works. They told me last
[38:20] year, it was done Sundays, but
[38:22] it's never, I've never seen any
[38:24] advertising of that. It's great
[38:26] to do it and it's good if you do
[38:28] it, like, on a first come, first
[38:30] served basis, but it should be
[38:32] available for everybody. So, it
[38:33] should be advertised for people,
[38:35] so they can come with certain
[38:40] days. And that's about it. Thank
[38:46] you for doing a great job you
[38:48] do, it's just a little things
[38:49] that can be fixed that can make
[38:51] our life better.
[38:52] >> Okay, we'll thank you for
[38:53] your question and I'm, that is
[38:57] sort of somewhat news to me. I
[38:59] know we have recently given away
[39:01] a lot of excess plants to the
[39:03] horticultural society. We have
[39:04] donated a lot of our access and
[39:06] I know we do do that as
[39:08] practice. We give away our
[39:09] plants. Whether we have
[39:10] actually, have we actually
[39:12] diminished our compost and our
[39:14] mulch, our donations of compost
[39:15] and mulch?
[39:16] >> Each year is different how
[39:19] much compost and mulch that we
[39:20] can have. This year, we don't
[39:22] have a lot of them because we
[39:24] don't have a lot of --
[39:27] unfortunately, we have to keep
[39:28] them only for the eco centre but
[39:30] for the compost for this year,
[39:32] you can go, you know, at the --
[39:34] all day if you want. We have
[39:36] enough from Montréal that you
[39:38] can go. But it's different each
[39:40] year, so you have to be careful.
[39:42] >> No but right now, I came to
[39:44] --
[39:45] >> Could you go to the question?
[39:46] >> I came to the public works
[39:47] for us and they told me that
[39:48] this practice won't be done
[39:49] anymore, so the only time you
[39:50] can get it is the on the
[39:52] ecocentre day and it now was
[39:53] reduced to instead of every
[39:55] month, now it's only every two
[39:57] months. So, really curving the
[39:59] services for people, I'm sorry.
[40:02] It's great what you do to the
[40:05] parks, but you should see how
[40:07] happy people were coming to get
[40:09] some mulch. You do it anyway,
[40:11] just put a little bit for
[40:12] people. Give it to us.
[40:14] >> Okay but like I told you,
[40:16] this year, we don't have enough
[40:17] mulch. -- All the time because
[40:20] it's depending on how many trees
[40:22] or branches we collect and we
[40:23] don't collect a lot, so it would
[40:26] only be in the eco centre for
[40:27] this year.
[40:28] >> Maybe you can put some share
[40:29] for the citizens, not only for
[40:31] the city. --
[40:34] >> If we have extra, we
[40:36] certainly will be generous to
[40:38] the citizens.
[40:39] >> -- A certain percentage.
[40:41] >> We need the city's supply of
[40:44] mulch. Thank you.
[40:45] >> Thank you.
[40:46] >> Pamela Stanton.
[40:53] >> It's Pamela 17.
[40:55] >> I thought it was 17, there is
[40:57] missing an eye here.
[40:58] >> Good evening, Mayor Thomas
[41:01] and Council members, tonight I
[41:02] come before you about a serious
[41:04] topic concerning the development
[41:06] of land behind the --
[41:08] >> Pamela, can I ask you to get
[41:09] a little closer to the
[41:10] microphone? We can hear you. The
[41:12] citizens, more importantly, the
[41:13] citizens at home cannot hear.
[41:14] >> Okay, can you hear me better?
[41:16] Thank you. Tonight, I come
[41:18] before you about a serious topic
[41:21] concerning the development of
[41:22] land behind the homes on the
[41:24] north side of -- although we
[41:30] specifically are represented by
[41:31] one single councillor, Mr. Bruno
[41:34] Tremblay, our hope is that all
[41:36] the councillor members and our
[41:39] mayor will give respectful
[41:42] attention to this important
[41:45] matter. It's almost impossible
[41:47] to comprehend that in July of
[41:50] 2016, yes, eight years ago, the
[41:55] residents of 11 homes were
[41:57] informed by a notice hung on our
[42:00] doorknobs that the city was
[42:01] taking back 50 feet of land that
[42:03] had been given to these
[42:05] homeowners by Mayor Arthur
[42:09] Seguin in 1967. Now, it's going
[42:12] to be developed into a bike path
[42:16] with overtime has progressed to
[42:18] be called a linear park. Above a
[42:22] buffer zone was needed in 1967
[42:24] to separate the clean industry
[42:27] built on Hymus from the new
[42:30] homes that were being built in
[42:33] 1967. And the wise Mayor Arthur
[42:37] say and his respectful Council
[42:41] decided to give that buffer zone
[42:43] of land to the homeowners,
[42:46] rather than to the industry,
[42:48] which had many, many, many feet.
[42:52] This, we know because when we
[42:53] bought, we were told this and we
[42:56] had been residents here for
[42:58] about 50 years.. This land was
[43:04] not given to us to be our land,
[43:08] but it was land loaned and given
[43:10] to be enjoyed by the citizens,
[43:12] and to do what we wished with
[43:14] it, as long as we didn't put
[43:15] anything permanent. Be it a pool
[43:19] or, I don't know, a Château. But
[43:22] we were able to use that land.
[43:25] Many of us have spent years and
[43:28] great amount of money to develop
[43:31] this. If you came to our
[43:33] backyard, you would not believe
[43:35] that the 70, 80 foot trees that
[43:37] are there were planted this big
[43:40] by us 40 years ago. Now, to
[43:44] shorten this saga, after many
[43:46] tense council meetings that
[43:47] we've had here over the eight
[43:50] years, and legal action, of
[43:52] course, that had to be taken by
[43:53] the residents to try and have
[43:54] some discussion, in November of
[43:59] 2018, the 11 homes were given
[44:04] the permission, the right, to
[44:07] buy 15 feet of this 50 feet
[44:10] land. At the time of signing
[44:14] here at City Hall, the notaries
[44:16] that we were involved with
[44:18] expressed to us that if we
[44:20] really wish to see this linear
[44:23] park bike path developed, we
[44:26] need to keep pressure on the
[44:30] council because this was
[44:31] certainly not going to be
[44:32] happening in a timely manner. Of
[44:35] course, along this way and
[44:37] because the meetings really
[44:38] didn't seem to be very well
[44:42] received by the council with
[44:43] those of us concerned, and then
[44:46] COVID came. Here, we've had this
[44:49] six years have passed now since
[44:51] we bought this land. And
[44:53] absolutely nothing, nothing,
[44:55] nothing has been developed or
[44:58] continued by the City, and we
[45:03] really look on to this wasteland
[45:05] that is anything but attractive.
[45:09] We feel that the non-involvement
[45:12] and the disinterest being shown
[45:13] by the council is unfair and is
[45:19] certainly unacceptable. We are
[45:23] really insisting that the City
[45:25] take action and finish this
[45:27] project, which has been in limbo
[45:28] for eight years. We have been
[45:30] more than patient and we are
[45:32] hopeful that you will seriously
[45:34] give this matter attention. The
[45:40] owners are of two different age
[45:43] groups. A few are interested in
[45:45] selling and there's no
[45:48] demarcation between, your land
[45:51] is up to their, and then those
[45:52] last 35 feet belong to the city.
[45:56] And what are they going to do
[45:57] with it? So, specifically, we
[46:01] would like to know, what is
[46:04] happening with the Planning? Or
[46:06] what appears to be total
[46:07] disinterest and non planning of
[46:10] this land that's been held in
[46:11] limbo for eight years? And we've
[46:14] had promises and promises given
[46:17] to us about at least
[46:18] constructing a privacy fence
[46:20] between this Neverland and our
[46:24] land. This is not occurred and
[46:26] at least, could this fence
[46:30] please be installed? You really
[46:34] need to see our properties and
[46:38] some of us have done a
[46:40] magnificent job. Being a
[46:43] resident of 50 years here in
[46:45] Pointe-Claire, I'm just so
[46:47] really frustrated and
[46:49] disappointed with the lack of
[46:52] action and the group asked me if
[46:54] I would speak on their behalf.
[46:56] >> So your question is what
[46:57] we're doing? What are the
[46:59] prospects?
[47:00] >> When will this fence at least
[47:01] be put up?
[47:02] >> Well, I will tell you what I
[47:03] know and what I remember to be
[47:05] the issue. I don't think there
[47:07] is a disinterest. I think there
[47:08] was interest and I remember we
[47:10] had meetings and it was being
[47:13] formulated. And the plans were
[47:15] looking good, at one point. I
[47:17] think, from what my
[47:19] understanding, is we are
[47:20] awaiting funding from, is it the
[47:23] City of Montréal that we're
[47:24] waiting for the linear? Are we
[47:26] not awaiting funding? No?
[47:29] >> But could the fence not at
[47:31] least be installed for us?
[47:33] >> The reason is not happening
[47:35] is I'm unclear. Perhaps
[47:37] Councillor Tremblay, who's very
[47:38] much on this issue, or Madam
[47:42] Verdon, can speak to why we are
[47:44] at a slowdown on this.
[47:46] >> Yeah, the project is still,
[47:48] you know, on the table. It's
[47:51] ongoing and we will have
[47:52] discussion with our caucus with
[47:54] the City -- caucus in the next
[47:56] weeks and hopefully we will get
[47:57] back to the citizens during, you
[48:01] know, the summer, at the
[48:02] beginning of the summer.
[48:03] >> With eight years of ongoing,
[48:05] it really is unfair.
[48:07] >> Well, Councillor Tremblay, I
[48:10] know you know this one pretty
[48:13] thoroughly.
[48:15] >> Thank you, Mister Mayor.
[48:16] Well, we have met several times
[48:19] in the past, as I've met with
[48:22] everybody on -- a regular
[48:23] occasion. Giving you as much
[48:26] information as I had at the time
[48:29] regarding the progress of the
[48:31] project. Now, the one thing that
[48:36] has, as I mentioned to you, I
[48:37] think I came by just a few weeks
[48:39] ago explaining to you that we
[48:41] were waiting for the on
[48:43] announcement as whether or not
[48:44] we were going to be receiving a
[48:46] grant money to be able to get
[48:47] the project going. I think
[48:52] there's some further discussions
[48:54] we need to have over the next
[48:55] couple of weeks, to be able to
[48:57] confirm some of this because we
[48:59] are pretty much nearing
[49:03] deadlines for these sorts of
[49:04] things, so there should be some
[49:05] news coming to you in the near
[49:08] future on this. I just can't
[49:11] speak about it right now.
[49:14] [Inaudible]
[49:18] >> No, I hear you and I
[49:19] certainly don't want to see
[49:23] myself having to go by and
[49:25] explain and update, and do the
[49:27] rest. As you know, we've also
[49:29] spent some time presenting the
[49:31] project to you, to everybody on
[49:33] the street as well. So, I think
[49:35] we've been fairly open in terms
[49:36] of how far we could go
[49:38] throughout the process. But
[49:41] hopefully in the very, very near
[49:42] term, we will be able to give
[49:43] you a clear line of direction.
[49:47] >> Excuse me, I'm respectful of
[49:49] your answer, and we have had
[49:54] information given, but non
[49:57] information. It's the same thing
[49:59] for the last three years
[50:01] specifically. It will be spring,
[50:02] it will be in the fall, it will
[50:03] be in the spring, it will be in
[50:05] the fall. We are waiting for a
[50:07] grant, we haven't got the grant.
[50:09] When that notice with no debate
[50:12] or dialogue with its citizens
[50:15] was hung on our doorknobs, we
[50:17] were told in July that by
[50:21] September 1st, everything had to
[50:24] be off the back property. People
[50:27] have put river rock to make
[50:30] patio areas. I can't tell you
[50:32] how many cabanas were moved.
[50:34] Eight years ago, at $500. It's a
[50:38] significant amount. As I said,
[50:40] money into shrubs, moving
[50:42] raspberry bushes, because it was
[50:44] going to be done in three
[50:47] months. And here we are, eight
[50:49] years later. It's wrong. Whoever
[50:55] is in charge of beautifying our
[50:57] city, they are amazing. You
[50:59] drive along Donegani, you go to
[51:01] the corner of Hymus and St.
[51:04] John's, in front of -- we've
[51:08] heard about hot Green and the
[51:12] city is doing so much right. But
[51:14] we just feel like this neglected
[51:17] 11 properties and we live in
[51:21] this vast building now of, I
[51:23] don't know, 2 million, 2000
[51:26] homes, 15 high-rises, ten
[51:28] storeys being built. The
[51:30] traffic, the waiting, like, it's
[51:33] really, I'm so glad I don't live
[51:34] on homestead. My dear neighbours
[51:36] on their, oh my gosh.
[51:39] >> Listen, Miss Santini. Can we
[51:41] speak to the bike path now?
[51:43] >> Don't get me going but Bruno,
[51:46] you've been coming to us and
[51:48] talking, but in circles because
[51:51] nothing, nothing is being done.
[51:54] And I'm really, really
[51:55] disappointed.
[51:56] >> I think at this point I can
[51:57] say point of privilege. I
[51:59] understand the frustration
[52:00] completely, I know and what I'm
[52:02] giving you is really a
[52:04] bureaucratic politicians answer,
[52:05] and I get it. So, the thing is I
[52:11] have to be respectful of certain
[52:13] procedural things that go on
[52:15] within the council, and you've
[52:17] been very patient, and so, I
[52:21] appreciate that. Without
[52:22] question. So, what you have said
[52:24] here is not taken personally as
[52:27] a criticism or anything of that
[52:29] nature, but just purely
[52:30] frustration over the length of
[52:31] time that it's taken and I think
[52:33] it was wise of you to come to
[52:35] Council and speak to the issue,
[52:38] and put some faces behind the
[52:41] whole project, so that people
[52:42] understand.
[52:44] >> Eight years is
[52:45] understandable.
[52:47] >> As I said earlier, I'm going
[52:50] to ask you to be just a tiny
[52:51] little bit more patient while we
[52:52] get through this and hopefully,
[52:54] we've got some good news for you
[52:57] not too far away.
[52:58] >> Councillor Stork, you want to
[53:00] speak.
[53:01] >> I just wanted to add a couple
[53:02] small points. I think that are
[53:03] important here, is that add a
[53:05] little information was done six,
[53:08] seven, eight years ago, but I
[53:09] worked on that in the last
[53:11] administration and this is the
[53:13] first I hear that the land was
[53:14] given by Arthur Seguin. It was a
[53:18] servitude which was City
[53:19] property for a long time. People
[53:20] were allowed to grow with a
[53:21] group and it became, I'm just
[53:23] telling you what I know, you
[53:25] know? I know that Councillor
[53:27] Tremblay has worked on this and
[53:29] the project took a long time in
[53:31] terms of the legal, with the 11
[53:33] and a lot of negotiations before
[53:34] it happened. And like anything
[53:37] else, with a new administration,
[53:38] you know, it's been discussed
[53:40] many times. Councillor Tremblay
[53:41] has worked hard on it but it
[53:43] does not happen immediately.
[53:45] There is financing, there's
[53:46] multiple projects, we need a lot
[53:48] of bike paths and, you know,
[53:51] everything we're trying to get
[53:52] at is based on the funding
[53:53] because if it costs $2 million,
[53:55] we want the government to pay
[53:56] for half of it because we don't
[53:57] have that money. So, I'm just
[53:59] trying to say that, you know,
[54:02] he's doing his best.
[54:04] >> Okay, Miss Santini, it
[54:07] frustrates the citizens if the
[54:09] questions come from the
[54:10] audience. The other have to come
[54:11] from the microphone. Sorry,
[54:13] Councillor Stork, I didn't mean
[54:15] to interrupt.
[54:16] >> No, I'm done. We do our best.
[54:18] >> Suffice to say eight years is
[54:20] a long time and I hear you. We
[54:22] hear you loud and clear. I'm a
[54:26] little -- excuse me, I'm a
[54:28] little surprised as well. I
[54:30] mean, I remember there were some
[54:31] momentum when we had actually
[54:33] drawn and it was in the process
[54:35] of being formulated when we had
[54:36] a meeting with you. A year or
[54:39] two ago. How long ago was our
[54:41] meeting? Do you remember? It was
[54:43] over a year?
[54:44] [Inaudible]
[54:46] >> Okay, so I hear you and I've
[54:49] taken note. And you are coming
[54:50] here tonight perhaps will help
[54:53] us take note because eight years
[54:54] is a very long time. Horse
[55:01] crabs?
[55:10] Horace Krebs?
[55:11] >> Question, I had a bad
[55:13] experience last weekend. And
[55:16] last week happened because I
[55:17] went into a pothole. The tire
[55:22] exploded. That guy came over,
[55:25] fixed the tire, and I look at it
[55:28] and I said, how about this? Low
[55:31] beautiful city of Pointe-Claire
[55:33] has potholes all over the place.
[55:37] The question is, how do you fix
[55:41] potholes? Do you just take a
[55:43] shovel, put the stuff on it,
[55:44] roll over and pray it's going to
[55:47] be okay? That's what you do? It
[55:51] never works, guys. Wake up! And
[55:53] you have that pothole there,
[55:56] clean it out, wash it out, put
[55:58] some tar, soft tar on it and
[56:01] then roll it over, smooth it
[56:03] out, and the pothole is not
[56:05] there anymore. But what do you
[56:10] do when you need to go in St.
[56:11] John's? You go on sources and I
[56:13] happened to work on Ellingham
[56:15] out of Costco, that's where my
[56:17] tire hit the road. And it just
[56:20] went poof. -- That I kept on
[56:27] driving all the way up the
[56:29] service road on the
[56:31] Trans-Canada, same thing. Boom,
[56:33] boom, boom. You can't drive
[56:36] straight. Can't you see this?
[56:39] It's the City of Pointe-Claire.
[56:41] Fix the holes! It doesn't cost
[56:44] too much. I will give you an
[56:46] idea if you don't have the
[56:47] money.
[56:48] >> Mr. Horace Krebs, is there a
[56:49] question coming because I hear
[56:50] what you're seeing loud and
[56:51] clear.
[56:52] >> The question is, when will
[56:53] you fix it?
[56:54] >> Okay, what we do have a
[56:55] timeline and we actually had
[56:56] this meeting a week or two ago
[56:59] where we produced a map of what
[57:00] we have done and what is to be
[57:02] done on the roads and there's
[57:04] actually a rotation at
[57:05] scientific plan on it and we've
[57:06] done a huge map but the issue
[57:09] with potholes is when you patch
[57:11] it, it doesn't work.
[57:12] >> No, but you have to patch it
[57:14] properly.
[57:15] >> Mister Krebs, they are
[57:17] patched properly but patching
[57:19] never works. You have to redo a
[57:20] road to get a pothole, they
[57:21] always come back, it's like rust
[57:23] on cars and Mr. Eric Roland
[57:26] explained this to all of us from
[57:27] Council, we had our meeting on
[57:29] this. Everybody concurs, there
[57:31] is a lot of work to be done.
[57:32] There has been an awful lot of
[57:34] work done, but yes, there are
[57:37] areas, especially in this --
[57:38] >> You have this beautiful
[57:40] street going up St. John's and
[57:45] they're, you come under this
[57:47] beautiful REM building on top of
[57:49] you and they're all the holes
[57:50] left and right. Nothing is being
[57:53] done, nothing. That's all I'm
[57:55] saying.
[57:56] >> Yeah, no, --
[57:57] >> I was really surprised that I
[57:59] heard this lady over there
[58:00] complaining since eight years
[58:01] and nothing has been done.
[58:03] Almost everything has been
[58:05] postponed and oh yes, we can do
[58:07] it, we will fix it. And that oh
[58:11] yes, so, we thought about this
[58:12] but we're waiting for the money
[58:15] from this, we're waiting for the
[58:16] money on this, and there are
[58:17] other things to do. This lady is
[58:21] neglected, I'm very sorry. I
[58:23] like the City of Pointe-Claire
[58:25] and I'm from -- 57 years already
[58:29] but I will tell you one thing,
[58:30] this is not supposed to go the
[58:32] way you do it.
[58:33] >> Okay, here's the thing.
[58:35] >> Here's the answer.
[58:36] >> Her issue is not akin to
[58:39] yours. She has, I think, even
[58:41] more substantial reason to be
[58:43] frustrated and what you're
[58:44] talking about is a regular
[58:45] issue. And we acknowledge that.
[58:48] I, myself, last week, or two
[58:50] weeks ago had a quite
[58:52] considerable expense, had to
[58:54] replace my shocks because they
[58:55] broke right out the front of my
[58:56] car on Pointe-Claire Road. So, I
[58:58] hear you. I, myself, had exactly
[59:00] that experience. I was late in
[59:01] getting my car because of
[59:03] exactly that. I had to replace
[59:06] that -- Valois and got a shocks
[59:09] replaced, okay? So I hear you
[59:10] loud and clear. We are all aware
[59:11] of that. We all know this. We
[59:15] are director of engineering
[59:17] presented a map to us of what is
[59:19] to be done and what has been
[59:21] done. Now, the what has been
[59:23] done was truly impressive. We
[59:25] have done a lot of roads. The
[59:26] ones you notice are the bad
[59:28] ones. There are a lot of good
[59:29] ones to. You know, you notice
[59:31] the bad ones and justly so, I
[59:33] agree with you and we wish we
[59:34] could have them all done. This
[59:35] is engineering explaining to us,
[59:38] but with all due respect, we
[59:40] have a lot more cars in
[59:42] Pointe-Claire than we used to
[59:43] and we're going to be getting a
[59:44] lot more cars than we are
[59:45] currently having.
[59:46] >> Yeah, you have Hymus, Hymus
[59:48] Street, it's populated like
[59:49] crazy.
[59:50] >> Mister Krebs, it's called
[59:52] infrastructure on who have more
[59:53] citizens, you need more
[59:54] infrastructure and roads are
[59:56] reflective, they are a
[59:57] reflection of the volume of
[59:58] trucks and cars, and we're doing
[59:59] our best. But infrastructure
[1:00:01] catches up with development. It
[1:00:03] is a simple as that and I wish I
[1:00:05] could give you a better answer.
[1:00:07] >> At least you're trying.
[1:00:08] >> Well, our director of public
[1:00:10] works explain potholes to us and
[1:00:12] he said, you know, you patch it,
[1:00:14] it gets bigger. If it does not
[1:00:15] go away.
[1:00:16] >> He doesn't know how to patch
[1:00:17] it.
[1:00:18] >> He knows how to patch, it
[1:00:19] just happens. It's like rests on
[1:00:20] a car.
[1:00:21] >> Can I talk to him?
[1:00:23] >> If you wants to speak to you,
[1:00:25] maybe you can contact the city
[1:00:26] and leave a message for the
[1:00:27] director of public works and if
[1:00:28] you found the back, call him.
[1:00:30] >> I will do this and I would
[1:00:31] likely go there.
[1:00:32] >> Call the receptionist and
[1:00:34] asked to speak to the director
[1:00:35] of public works, okay.
[1:00:36] >> Thank you.
[1:00:37] >> Thank you, Mister Krebs. I
[1:00:39] understand where you're coming
[1:00:40] from. Susan Weaver?
[1:00:50] >> Okay, at the last council
[1:00:52] meeting, the 90 minute question
[1:00:55] period was not enough time for
[1:00:56] some citizens to ask a question.
[1:00:59] It was the long speeches, not
[1:01:01] the councillors necessary input
[1:01:02] to explain the facts has how
[1:01:05] this city functions. You're
[1:01:07] always favourable to those who
[1:01:08] will vote for you and allow them
[1:01:10] to read long speeches. Question
[1:01:12] from each citizen should only be
[1:01:13] a matter of a few minutes and
[1:01:15] should be on point. Will you ask
[1:01:17] the citizens to refrain from
[1:01:18] giving long speeches, so as to
[1:01:21] allow all citizens time at the
[1:01:23] microphone?
[1:01:24] >> Yes, I've been doing so, Miss
[1:01:26] Weaver. I will continue to do
[1:01:28] so. I have been, in fact, I
[1:01:32] don't agree with your
[1:01:34] sentiments. I've actually been
[1:01:36] fairer to those who disagree
[1:01:37] that I have to those who agree,
[1:01:39] and for your information, in the
[1:01:41] last question period, 12 people
[1:01:43] got to ask questions and there
[1:01:45] were a lot of, there was a lot
[1:01:46] of council discussion. During
[1:01:48] the question period, and it was
[1:01:50] not about amount or volume of
[1:01:52] citizens, and we have only had
[1:01:53] three question periods where
[1:01:55] we've run out of time. So,
[1:01:57] that's not about percentage. It
[1:01:58] can get better and it will. But
[1:02:00] I think it's been, I think you
[1:02:02] are exaggerating.
[1:02:05] >> Okay, I have a question. Are
[1:02:07] there any pledge to control the
[1:02:09] Buckhorn and garlic mustard that
[1:02:11] are ravaging our small urban
[1:02:13] forests, wooded areas, and green
[1:02:15] spaces?
[1:02:16] >> That's a very good question.
[1:02:17] Are there, Madame Verdon or Mr.
[1:02:21] Gerard? For Buffalo? And
[1:02:22] >> I don't have the answer with
[1:02:24] me.
[1:02:25] >> I know that the City is doing
[1:02:26] a great job on terracotta, as
[1:02:28] best as they can but when we're
[1:02:30] talking about corridors, maybe
[1:02:31] we have to think about the other
[1:02:34] areas and it cannot be just the
[1:02:36] cities, it has to be the
[1:02:37] citizens involved. And we did
[1:02:39] that in the last two councils
[1:02:41] with Cynthia and Mr. Trudeau.
[1:02:44] >> Okay, thank you, Miss Weaver.
[1:02:47] Keith Kelly?
[1:02:50] >> I will pass, thank you.
[1:02:52] >> Gary spiller?
[1:02:56] >> Thanks, I would like to draw
[1:02:58] your attention to something we
[1:02:59] have discussed with the The G
[1:03:03] and -- about the potential for
[1:03:04] solar energy in Pointe-Claire.
[1:03:06] The St. Laurent City Hall has
[1:03:08] installed solar panels on the
[1:03:10] roof and mayor Ellen D'Souza has
[1:03:12] organized a meeting last
[1:03:14] November to call for an
[1:03:15] industrial solar park, the
[1:03:17] largest in Québec in
[1:03:19] Saint-Laurent. So, I'm hoping
[1:03:20] that Pointe-Claire councillors
[1:03:23] and mayor and staff can liaison
[1:03:25] work closely with them. The
[1:03:27] Federation of Canadian
[1:03:28] Municipalities gave a grant to
[1:03:30] St. Laurent to look at the
[1:03:31] potential and it was quite
[1:03:33] positive. Under the new budget,
[1:03:35] there's very good incentives. It
[1:03:37] could reduce 100,000 dollar
[1:03:39] investment on a commercial
[1:03:40] operation down to 50,000, so I
[1:03:44] would urge you to look at it,
[1:03:46] the commercial site. Most of the
[1:03:48] Hydro-Québec stuff is for
[1:03:50] residential, and I'd be willing
[1:03:51] to help with that is well
[1:03:52] through the environment
[1:03:53] committee, I'm going to raise it
[1:03:55] as well because it needs to be
[1:03:56] included in our sustainable --
[1:03:59] plans, that's my question, yeah.
[1:04:01] >> Bless you. The irony is we
[1:04:04] just spoke about it tonight.
[1:04:05] Just before we came in and
[1:04:07] Councillor Tremblay did bring
[1:04:08] that up and we were, there was a
[1:04:13] positive sentiment in the room.
[1:04:16] I'm going to be seeing Allen in
[1:04:18] the next five days, and yeah, I
[1:04:21] mean, in the industrial park,
[1:04:22] it's a wonderful thing.
[1:04:24] >> I met some people in the
[1:04:25] Planning Committee, there is
[1:04:27] been some -- for solar
[1:04:29] residential solar, but
[1:04:30] commercial has potential.
[1:04:32] >> Big-time.
[1:04:33] >> There's not one small granted
[1:04:34] given but I'd like to see a much
[1:04:35] broader approach. And I'd like
[1:04:37] to commend Pointe-Claire for
[1:04:38] these outdoor ping-pong tables.
[1:04:42] Maybe they would like to have
[1:04:43] some solar panels on them.
[1:04:44] >> On top of the tables?
[1:04:46] >> On the aquatic centre. But
[1:04:48] no, it's very good, these tables
[1:04:51] are very well used.
[1:04:52] >> Thank you, Mister spiller.
[1:04:54] Thank you for the positive
[1:04:56] feedback. Carol Desjardins?
[1:05:06] Vas-y la Québécoise!
[1:05:08] - Alors, je viens ici pour la
[1:05:10] première fois.
[1:05:13] - Baisser le micro.
[1:05:14] - C'est vrai. Je viens ici pour
[1:05:15] la première fois. On m'a demandé
[1:05:16] mon nom à l'entrée alors j'ai
[1:05:18] écrit mon nom. Les questions, je
[1:05:21] vais attendre à une prochaine
[1:05:22] fois. Moi, je veux avoir les
[1:05:24] coudées chauds. Combien ça coûte
[1:05:26] faire ça, combien ça coûte la
[1:05:28] grande patente, les Travaux
[1:05:30] publics, toutes ces choses-là...
[1:05:34] c'est ça, moi j'aimerais savoir.
[1:05:35] Je ne vais pas prendre toute le
[1:05:37] temps. On m'a demandé mon nom,
[1:05:39] alors j'ai écrit mon nom.
[1:05:42] (rires)
[1:05:43] Je ne savais pas que j'aurais
[1:05:44] quelque chose à dire
[1:05:45] - Vous avez écrit Carole
[1:05:49] Desjardins.
[1:05:50] - Il n'a pas d'avance dans les
[1:05:52] noms. De toute façon, on écrit
[1:05:54] comment veux. Mais c'est bien,
[1:05:56] alors, au revoir!
[1:05:58] - Madame Desjardins, la
[1:06:02] réponse...
[1:06:03] >> Apparently we aren't allowed
[1:06:04] to clad but I thought it was a
[1:06:05] good answer myself.
[1:06:06] - La réponse est quoi?
[1:06:07] - C'est 25 millions.
[1:06:09] - Combien?
[1:06:10] - 25.
[1:06:11] - Quand même.
[1:06:13] - Pour les travaux publics.
[1:06:14] - C'est vrai, j'ai quelque chose
[1:06:16] que je veux dire. J'appuie le
[1:06:17] monsieur avec les chemins. Tu
[1:06:20] vas à vélo dans Beaconsfield sur
[1:06:23] les tricheurs, c'est wow. Après
[1:06:25] ça, on arrive à Pointe-Claire.
[1:06:28] On est à Dorval, on est mieux.
[1:06:29] - C'est pas wow à Beaconsfield.
[1:06:31] (inaudible)
[1:06:33] En vélo, c'est beau.
[1:06:35] - Les joueurs, particulièrement
[1:06:38] Lakeshore, pour nous, c'est un
[1:06:41] projet. On connaît bien ça. Vous
[1:06:43] avez raison. Nous sommes en
[1:06:45] retard avec Lakeshore, mais on
[1:06:47] est en train de décider
[1:06:48] qu'est-ce qu'on va faire avec le
[1:06:50] village et tout. On comprend
[1:06:52] bien ça.
[1:06:53] - Juste pour finir, ce n'est pas
[1:06:54] trop original, mais c'est encore
[1:06:56] dans les chemin. Celui qu'on
[1:06:59] prend quand on veut... on
[1:07:01] revient du Fairview et on prend
[1:07:03] la voie de service pour se
[1:07:04] rendre parce que je suis sûr
[1:07:05] pressait d'Ware Valois. Je suis
[1:07:08] là. Le chemin est effrayant.
[1:07:12] Pour le reste, tout le monde est
[1:07:14] très beau. Merci beaucoup.
[1:07:16] (rires)
[1:07:17] Merci Carole Desjardins.
[1:07:21] >> Randy Godin?
[1:07:34] >> Mister Mayor, on our campaign
[1:07:37] trail, you passed by my house. I
[1:07:39] ask you for questions. You told
[1:07:41] me to get back to me. That was
[1:07:44] on your campaign trail, I'm
[1:07:45] still waiting for the answers.
[1:07:46] >> Okay, we'll give them to me.
[1:07:48] >> Question one, the compost
[1:07:50] bins. Since a city has changed
[1:07:55] the idea of putting our compost
[1:07:56] into the bins loose where we
[1:07:58] were offered a scoop by the
[1:08:01] City, our compost bin is
[1:08:03] constantly overrun with maggots.
[1:08:05] We asked, can we have
[1:08:07] compostable bags? You said you
[1:08:09] look into it and get back to us.
[1:08:11] We still have not heard back and
[1:08:13] we are still having overrun with
[1:08:15] maggots on a weekly basis,
[1:08:17] especially in heat like this.
[1:08:19] You put your compost in the bin
[1:08:20] in the morning. By the evening,
[1:08:22] it's swarming with maggots. I
[1:08:24] would like an answer for that
[1:08:25] one when you have a chance.
[1:08:27] >> Okay, you want the others?
[1:08:29] You have four, right? You have
[1:08:30] two questions. In question
[1:08:32] period. So, I will -- we will
[1:08:34] wrap before into one question,
[1:08:36] how is that? There we go.
[1:08:39] >> Before COVID happened, we
[1:08:41] bought our house ten years ago.
[1:08:43] We had an arborist come to our
[1:08:44] street to check our tree, it
[1:08:46] hasn't been maintained by the
[1:08:48] City. Our street has been
[1:08:50] promised to be redone year, by
[1:08:52] year, by year, constantly being
[1:08:54] pushed back. Glenn Brook was
[1:08:55] done beautifully. The rumour is,
[1:08:58] political reasons. Now it's
[1:09:00] night and day between Glenn
[1:09:01] Brooke and ivanhoe Crescent. I
[1:09:03] spoke to Mr. Cowan about it
[1:09:04] multiple times and he said, well
[1:09:06] I should organize my streak to
[1:09:08] come down to your council
[1:09:09] meeting and petition since he
[1:09:11] could not be bothered to do it
[1:09:14] himself. I asked specifically we
[1:09:16] elected you to do it, he said it
[1:09:19] is beyond him. We got together
[1:09:21] from our street to come down and
[1:09:25] petition. I've been elected by
[1:09:26] my street to come down and
[1:09:28] petition. When it's ivanhoe
[1:09:29] Crescent going to get the
[1:09:30] treatment that Glenn Brooke got?
[1:09:32] They got new sewers, they got
[1:09:33] new access, they got a sidewalk.
[1:09:35] It's night and day. We are a
[1:09:37] country road next to a city
[1:09:39] street. Number three, when
[1:09:42] you're supposed to redo my
[1:09:44] street, you're supposed to also
[1:09:45] fill in my ditch. I'm the one
[1:09:48] house on the entire street that
[1:09:49] has a ditch.
[1:09:50] >> I remember that now.
[1:09:51] >> That was supposed to be done,
[1:09:53] we've still been waiting, my
[1:09:54] poor wife was only this tall
[1:09:55] mows our lawn. The dish is
[1:09:57] taller than she is. When is the
[1:10:00] ditch going to be filled? When
[1:10:02] is my tree going to be ripped
[1:10:03] out of the ground and redone
[1:10:04] because it has not been
[1:10:06] maintained and I'm there for
[1:10:07] going to lose all the natural
[1:10:08] shade in my house for a number
[1:10:10] of years to come? And one of my
[1:10:12] street going to be redone to the
[1:10:13] point where I can finally redo
[1:10:14] my driveway without it getting
[1:10:16] cut up by the City when they
[1:10:17] come to redo my street, costing
[1:10:19] me thousands of dollars that
[1:10:20] will just go down the drain?
[1:10:23] >> Okay, that's the enchilada, I
[1:10:25] will do my best. The compost
[1:10:26] find intriguing. Do we have a
[1:10:28] bag solution for compost?
[1:10:32] >> You did.
[1:10:33] >> I'm very happy to answer. So,
[1:10:35] when you visit the site that I
[1:10:38] was going to say metabolize is,
[1:10:40] that's not the right word,
[1:10:41] processes our compost, it's
[1:10:43] their machinery that will not
[1:10:44] accept the bags. So, even if it
[1:10:46] says compostable or it's
[1:10:48] allowed, it cannot go in the
[1:10:49] machinery that processes it, so
[1:10:51] if you look on our website, well
[1:10:54] hopefully it's still there, but
[1:10:55] we have recommendations of
[1:10:56] wrapping things in paper or
[1:10:58] things that can go in the
[1:10:59] compost because you have to
[1:11:00] layer the dry with the wet to
[1:11:02] prevent the maggots and I know
[1:11:03] when it's very hot, it's
[1:11:05] difficult to do, but there's
[1:11:06] different types of cardboard
[1:11:08] boxes, things of that sort that
[1:11:10] you can put the more wet stuff
[1:11:11] into just prevent the maggots as
[1:11:14] best as possible, but that's the
[1:11:15] reason why we can't use the bags
[1:11:16] even if they're compostable.
[1:11:18] >> On that note, are you saying
[1:11:19] I should be taking stuff out of
[1:11:20] my recycle bin to put my compost
[1:11:22] bin in order to prevent my
[1:11:23] maggots from having my compost?
[1:11:25] >> If it's toilet paper rolls
[1:11:27] absolutely. And plus also you
[1:11:28] know exactly what happened to
[1:11:29] compost, right? Like, we get it
[1:11:30] back as our black gold.
[1:11:32] Obviously, we need more of it to
[1:11:33] come back to us but if it can be
[1:11:36] compostable or recyclable,
[1:11:37] always choose compostable.
[1:11:39] >> Okay, are they marked on it
[1:11:42] somewhere that it's compostable?
[1:11:43] I have four kids who will sit
[1:11:45] there and disrupt the whole
[1:11:47] system.
[1:11:48] >> I understand, so there are
[1:11:49] pictures in our environmental
[1:11:51] guide that will tell you and
[1:11:53] there are certain websites that
[1:11:55] will tell you. I can share with
[1:11:56] you after, that was so you can
[1:11:58] look up an item and then you can
[1:12:00] say, oh yes, that goes in the
[1:12:02] compost and it's available to
[1:12:03] only compost.
[1:12:04] >> I appreciate that.
[1:12:06] >> Sorry, can I add to that?
[1:12:08] >> Go ahead.
[1:12:09] >> I have a solution because we
[1:12:10] had maggots for a long time. I
[1:12:13] go to metro and if I'm not
[1:12:15] buying groceries, I just by the
[1:12:16] brown paper bags. To be honest
[1:12:18] with you, it's 15 cents a bag
[1:12:19] and I dump my compost into those
[1:12:22] bags, they are compostable,
[1:12:23] they're just brown paper bags
[1:12:25] and that's what goes in my bin.
[1:12:27] Keeps the been pretty tidy and I
[1:12:29] don't have maggots anymore.
[1:12:32] >> If I may ask, how many
[1:12:34] members of your household?
[1:12:35] >> For.
[1:12:36] >> We're six. And you know, with
[1:12:40] kids, that's extra.
[1:12:42] >> I know, I've got two of them.
[1:12:45] >> Well, bless you for doing it
[1:12:47] because there are a lot of
[1:12:48] people who do not and you're
[1:12:49] going through the struggles of
[1:12:52] composting and you're doing your
[1:12:55] job to society and the world by
[1:12:57] doing it. There are unpleasant
[1:12:59] aspects to it and struggling
[1:13:01] through it is not easy and thank
[1:13:03] you for doing so. As for the
[1:13:06] tree, the tree is generally an
[1:13:09] expert thing. I mean, we've had
[1:13:10] a lot of issues of questions on
[1:13:12] trees and I don't venture into
[1:13:15] whether, what should be done
[1:13:16] with the tree. I let our
[1:13:19] experts, who are trained. We
[1:13:21] have people that are superb and
[1:13:23] committed to it. Yes?
[1:13:25] >> Your expert came to my house,
[1:13:26] your expert says my tree has not
[1:13:27] been maintained. It has 11 main
[1:13:29] branches where should only have
[1:13:30] three. It's going to have to be
[1:13:31] ripped out because a little of
[1:13:33] it is going to die because it
[1:13:34] was supposed to be done with the
[1:13:35] street was done.
[1:13:36] >> Okay, so you got your answer
[1:13:37] on the tree.
[1:13:38] >> When is that going to happen?
[1:13:39] >> That's a great question and I
[1:13:41] can tell you right off the bat
[1:13:42] here on that issue. Streets and
[1:13:44] the rotation of streets, excuse
[1:13:47] me, for people talking, streets
[1:13:49] and the rotation, how they get
[1:13:55] picked and done, I was going to
[1:13:57] let Councillor Cowan speak to
[1:14:00] this. I think what he's saying
[1:14:01] is that it's we don't come in
[1:14:03] and scream and yell with each
[1:14:04] other and one street gets done
[1:14:05] over another. It does not happen
[1:14:07] that way. They have that map,
[1:14:09] they have a rotation, they have
[1:14:12] demarcated inward in --
[1:14:14] according to the engineers and
[1:14:16] engineering and public works.
[1:14:17] When they get done. And it's not
[1:14:19] us that decides that because
[1:14:21] they are pros. So, you
[1:14:24] literally, you know, follow.
[1:14:25] When it gets really bad, we will
[1:14:27] mention or we will say so but
[1:14:28] for the most part, it's not
[1:14:31] councils hands. It's really done
[1:14:34] according to a logical rotation.
[1:14:38] I understand you had a street
[1:14:39] right beside yours done years
[1:14:41] earlier and I do remember the
[1:14:42] ditch and I do find the ditch. I
[1:14:44] remember it as being suspect.
[1:14:47] I'm not a pro, I'm not an
[1:14:49] engineer but I remember noting
[1:14:50] and I remember it clearly our
[1:14:52] conversation and I sort of
[1:14:53] concur. Now, what the
[1:14:55] explanation is for that is I'm
[1:14:57] going to get on that one because
[1:14:58] I remember that now. That was an
[1:15:01] intriguing, his property, this
[1:15:03] gentleman's property is very
[1:15:04] interesting. He does have kind
[1:15:05] of a bizarre ditch that is, you
[1:15:09] could trip and fall and hurt
[1:15:11] yourself in at the edge of his
[1:15:12] property. Thank you and I will
[1:15:15] definitely look into that.
[1:15:16] That's one that I can actually
[1:15:17] take away tonight and actually
[1:15:18] go with.
[1:15:20] >> Sorry, Mayor Thomas, sorry to
[1:15:22] intervene. Right now, your
[1:15:24] streak is listed in our capital
[1:15:25] investment plan for 2028. That
[1:15:29] number is not a -- as we said.
[1:15:34] Coulé en béton.
[1:15:37] No pun intended. It can
[1:15:40] fluctuate on the needs if
[1:15:42] suddenly we have other streets
[1:15:43] that have many, many water main
[1:15:45] breaks, et cetera. It will push
[1:15:47] streets down but if you look at
[1:15:48] the capital investment plan, you
[1:15:50] can see that it's listed for
[1:15:52] 2028, so it is on our radar and
[1:15:55] it is listed as one of the
[1:15:57] upcoming streets to be repaired.
[1:15:59] >> I only laughed because I had
[1:16:00] that same conversation seven
[1:16:01] years ago when I called Public
[1:16:03] Works and uncalled engineering.
[1:16:04] I said, it will be done probably
[1:16:06] the next three years. In the
[1:16:08] next three years. The next three
[1:16:09] years and I called in 2016,
[1:16:11] 2017, 2018, 2019. Still got the
[1:16:14] same answer.
[1:16:16] >> I understand your
[1:16:17] frustration. I don't remember
[1:16:18] actually speaking with you, I
[1:16:20] think --
[1:16:21] >> By email.
[1:16:22] >> I don't think it ever said it
[1:16:23] couldn't be bothered. This is an
[1:16:24] issue that I've been working on
[1:16:26] since 2017, first election
[1:16:28] because it was slated to be done
[1:16:30] in 2018 on the CIP and that got
[1:16:34] pushed off into infinity. Now
[1:16:36] it's back to 2028. Whether mayor
[1:16:40] was talking about in the
[1:16:42] rotation streets, it's usually
[1:16:43] the infrastructure underneath
[1:16:44] the street that determines when
[1:16:46] the whole street is going to get
[1:16:47] done. So, I did, I have asked
[1:16:52] many times, what I thought were
[1:16:54] hard questions on how something
[1:16:56] could've been a high priority in
[1:16:58] 2017 and got dropped off -- 2018
[1:17:01] and it's put back in 2028. It is
[1:17:03] a bit of a mystery, but at least
[1:17:06] it is there in 2028. If I told
[1:17:09] you I don't remember but if I
[1:17:11] told you to come in and
[1:17:13] represent your neighbourhood,
[1:17:15] well, you're doing it and it's
[1:17:16] having an effect, isn't it? So,
[1:17:18] I guess it was good advice. As
[1:17:19] for the ditches, that's a
[1:17:21] problem and the reason it's a
[1:17:22] problem is because the dishes
[1:17:23] are part of the runoff to take
[1:17:25] the water off the streets. So
[1:17:27] yes, the ditches when the street
[1:17:28] is done, the dishes are going to
[1:17:30] go. But one of the things, one
[1:17:31] of your neighbours was I can't
[1:17:33] remember his name he was
[1:17:36] investigating this as well and
[1:17:38] when I looked on the street, I
[1:17:39] could see what the problem once
[1:17:40] was that the water that goes, it
[1:17:44] was pretty clear that one of the
[1:17:48] sewage points, the runoff points
[1:17:50] where the water was taken to be
[1:17:52] collected through the dishes and
[1:17:53] taken away is underneath
[1:17:55] somebody's driveway.
[1:17:56] >> And it goes nowhere.
[1:17:58] >> Well no, it does. Under the
[1:18:00] driveway, it must. Since the
[1:18:01] water, I know it accumulates
[1:18:03] sometimes to dangerous levels,
[1:18:05] about two feet, which isn't good
[1:18:07] because a child, a toddler could
[1:18:08] drown into feet, I'm aware of
[1:18:10] that. What I've raised this
[1:18:12] issue. But the water does
[1:18:15] eventually go away. So, when it
[1:18:17] has to go out somewhere and when
[1:18:20] I investigated on the street, I
[1:18:22] saw that on both sides of the
[1:18:23] driveway was ditch and then
[1:18:27] blocked. The only way it could
[1:18:28] be going it's underneath that
[1:18:30] driveway on the public terrain
[1:18:32] portion of that driveway, it had
[1:18:33] to be where the sewage or the
[1:18:38] runoff actually was. So, it is a
[1:18:41] technical issue and a money
[1:18:45] issue. But your neighbour
[1:18:47] though, he was in touch with
[1:18:48] public works and he was going to
[1:18:50] actually, he's a contractor
[1:18:52] himself and he was going to
[1:18:54] volunteer to do some of the --
[1:18:56] get that problem solved that is
[1:18:59] his location. But then I don't
[1:19:00] know what happened to it. He
[1:19:04] sort of just disappeared.
[1:19:06] >> That, I don't know.
[1:19:09] >> So, you have done well.
[1:19:12] >> I would ask one more
[1:19:13] question.
[1:19:14] >> Things are on the radar.
[1:19:15] You've had more of your share. I
[1:19:16] get in trouble for letting
[1:19:17] things go on to lawn, so is it
[1:19:21] extremely important or? Quickly,
[1:19:24] very quickly.
[1:19:25] >> The school path that runs
[1:19:27] behind my house and behind --
[1:19:30] Chris that looks Del Mar to the
[1:19:33] school is in such disrepair. I
[1:19:36] know it's a school property, I
[1:19:38] know you can't do anything.
[1:19:39] >> I can answer that question.
[1:19:41] The agglomeration has been
[1:19:43] designated as an agglomeration
[1:19:45] bicycle path. It was supposed to
[1:19:46] have repaired it last summer.
[1:19:48] They didn't. I'm highly
[1:19:51] suspicious that it had something
[1:19:52] to do with Montréal's, the City
[1:19:54] of Montréal, not the
[1:19:56] agglomeration's financial woes
[1:19:57] that are supposed to be
[1:19:58] insulated from the
[1:19:59] agglomeration, but it seems
[1:20:00] rather coincidental that when
[1:20:01] Montréal had budget problems
[1:20:02] last year, our project got
[1:20:04] canned. I just found out today
[1:20:05] that it's supposed to be done
[1:20:07] this summer.
[1:20:08] >> So, there we go.
[1:20:09] >> Of course, they said that two
[1:20:11] summers ago to what they said --
[1:20:13] it's an agglomeration project.
[1:20:15] >> Thank you, Mr. Cowan. Thank
[1:20:18] you, Mister Mayor.
[1:20:19] >> You're welcome. I've Anna
[1:20:27] Colatriano. Oh, good.
[1:20:36] >> Thank you. I live, my husband
[1:20:38] and I live at 110 pick wood
[1:20:41] Crescent. Our neighbours at
[1:20:45] eight pick would have a tree, a
[1:20:48] beautiful tree. Unfortunately,
[1:20:50] one of the branches sat on our
[1:20:53] roof and another branch covers
[1:20:55] our driveway. We've gone to
[1:20:57] public works a number of times,
[1:20:58] three or four, to explain the
[1:21:01] problem. There is nothing we can
[1:21:03] do, there is nothing we can do,
[1:21:05] right? It depends on public
[1:21:08] works. But we do worry about the
[1:21:11] branch that sits practically
[1:21:13] sits on our roof and the branch
[1:21:15] that is over our cars and our
[1:21:18] driveway. We don't know where
[1:21:19] else to go, so we came here to
[1:21:21] tell you about our, pardon?
[1:21:26] [Inaudible]
[1:21:27] >> To do what?
[1:21:28] >> Excuse me. Folks, we can't
[1:21:30] have debate in the audience. The
[1:21:31] audience at home has to hear
[1:21:33] from the microphone what's going
[1:21:34] on.
[1:21:35] >> So, we did speak to the
[1:21:36] neighbours and the neighbours
[1:21:37] had no problem. What we are
[1:21:39] asking the City is if they can
[1:21:41] prune the tree, not take it
[1:21:42] down. Absolutely not. But
[1:21:44] surely, there must be something
[1:21:45] that can be done so that
[1:21:48] whenever there is a storm,
[1:21:49] whenever there is a wind storm,
[1:21:50] whether it's a snowstorm or
[1:21:52] whatnot, we move our cars. We
[1:21:54] have really great neighbours who
[1:21:55] don't have trees over their
[1:21:57] driveway and they will allow us
[1:21:58] to park our cars in the
[1:22:00] driveway. But that's pretty
[1:22:02] crazy. We do have a driveway, we
[1:22:04] would like to use it. There's
[1:22:05] nothing we can do about the roof
[1:22:08] unless the branches are trimmed.
[1:22:09] >> Just to be clear and I'm not
[1:22:12] making any presumption here,
[1:22:13] you're moving the car because
[1:22:14] you're worried about the branch
[1:22:16] falling on it?
[1:22:17] >> Yes, absolutely.
[1:22:18] >> Okay, but it's not yet?
[1:22:20] >> I have a visual.
[1:22:21] >> It's okay.
[1:22:23] >> You can see how low the
[1:22:24] branches go over our car. So, we
[1:22:26] don't know what --
[1:22:27] >> And public works is aware of
[1:22:28] the issue. You've made them
[1:22:30] aware, okay, so they are aware,
[1:22:34] okay. So, they are the pros and
[1:22:37] making them aware is good. I
[1:22:39] mean, you're here tonight, so we
[1:22:40] can reiterate it.
[1:22:42] >> Thank you.
[1:22:43] >> And that's really what --
[1:22:44] >> We are not asking for major
[1:22:46] work. Just to prune the trees.
[1:22:48] >> No, I hear you. I mean, I
[1:22:50] haven't seen it happen. I looked
[1:22:51] at your photograph that I trust
[1:22:52] you and if it is a danger, it
[1:22:56] should get done. Presumably
[1:22:58] before it causes harm.
[1:23:00] >> Absolutely. Okay?
[1:23:02] >> All right, thank you, ma'am.
[1:23:03] >> Thank you.
[1:23:14] >>
[1:23:15] Wojcik --
[1:23:18] [Inaudible]
[1:23:19] [Laughter]
[1:23:24] >> The previous question was my
[1:23:26] wife, so we live in the same
[1:23:27] place, 110 pick wood Crescent. I
[1:23:30] want to talk about something
[1:23:31] else, safety. I want to ask you
[1:23:34] to make our place, are a little
[1:23:38] safer. I'm talking about the two
[1:23:41] streets, Hymus and hasting, and
[1:23:46] Hymus, sorry if I'm pronouncing
[1:23:49] this -- there's -- hasting. The
[1:23:55] problem is whoever decides to
[1:23:59] beautify the city put very high
[1:24:04] hedges they're, like bushes or,
[1:24:07] so as soon as you approach from
[1:24:10] the -- it's not too bad because
[1:24:12] you can only turn right. But
[1:24:15] from hasting, you basically have
[1:24:20] to cross completely the pathway
[1:24:23] for the bicycle and you have to
[1:24:25] put your car on Hymus to see.
[1:24:29] There is a bus stop which is
[1:24:32] glass, so you can see through
[1:24:34] it. But the bushes are so high,
[1:24:37] if you have a low car, you know,
[1:24:39] like a regular sedan, it's very
[1:24:42] hard to see both ways and I
[1:24:46] don't want to, I don't suggest
[1:24:48] stop signs or whatever. 29th of
[1:24:52] May, the workers, the
[1:24:55] contractors were removing the
[1:24:57] bushes near the St. John and
[1:25:01] Hymus, and I don't know if
[1:25:04] somebody complained before, but
[1:25:07] this situation, the high bushes
[1:25:10] prevent the people to see and
[1:25:12] if, let's say, a possibility of
[1:25:15] accident is 1%, this increases
[1:25:17] it to three or 4%. For my
[1:25:20] safety, I know the people which
[1:25:23] avoid this Hastings and Hymus,
[1:25:26] and they go to garden when you
[1:25:30] can see on one side, but it's
[1:25:32] very hard. You have to also go
[1:25:34] almost on Hymus, and then they
[1:25:37] go to the shopping centre,
[1:25:40] parking lot, and they come back
[1:25:41] from another -- you cannot make
[1:25:43] the U-turn, you know? It's
[1:25:44] against the law. It's forbidden.
[1:25:47] So, my question is, we pay for
[1:25:53] it, City pays for the
[1:25:56] development of this. Who agreed
[1:26:00] to come to the solution to put
[1:26:02] something so high which
[1:26:05] completely prevents the people
[1:26:08] to see if something happens?
[1:26:11] >> Well, it sounds valid, it
[1:26:13] sounds legit and certainly, it
[1:26:15] bears worth looking at. And
[1:26:17] checking it out because if it is
[1:26:18] a danger, Councillor Stork?
[1:26:20] >> Yeah, thank you, Mayor
[1:26:22] Thomas. We spoke about this I
[1:26:24] think last year and I did send
[1:26:26] an all regarding information,
[1:26:28] it's called a triangle of
[1:26:29] visibility. It's true, I drive
[1:26:31] there three times a day. You
[1:26:32] have to nudge your nose out and
[1:26:35] -- bobbing your head to see if
[1:26:37] you can get out. So, I know it
[1:26:39] was put on the next time they do
[1:26:40] a circuit, the triangle of
[1:26:42] visibility, the different areas,
[1:26:44] not public works but the I espy,
[1:26:47] public security, we'll do. So,
[1:26:48] it's on the list to be look at
[1:26:49] in terms of addressing that
[1:26:51] issue, in terms of the triangle
[1:26:53] of safety. I don't know when it
[1:26:55] is being done. I can investigate
[1:26:56] that but it's being looked at.
[1:26:59] >> So they are aware, people are
[1:27:01] aware.
[1:27:02] >> You go farther east and there
[1:27:04] is the next street, there are no
[1:27:07] bushes. I don't know who --
[1:27:08] >> I hear you.
[1:27:10] >> Somebody did.
[1:27:13] >> Well, if it's a danger, sir,
[1:27:15] and it's on a priority list, we
[1:27:17] are not doing too badly.
[1:27:20] >> My wife, she forbade me to do
[1:27:23] that but --
[1:27:26] >> You've got one more.
[1:27:27] >> I'm talking about the tree
[1:27:29] which is on our neighbour.
[1:27:31] There's damage on the cars
[1:27:32] already. Small bumps, you know?
[1:27:34] The branches, if somebody is
[1:27:37] tall as me and they want to
[1:27:40] resell their car, you're going
[1:27:41] to see like bumps all over her
[1:27:44] car and my car, okay? And I'm
[1:27:49] 68, so I cannot climb the roof.
[1:27:51] The inspector who came to adjust
[1:27:54] our trees, he suggested I go to
[1:27:55] the roof and make the picture. I
[1:27:58] don't want to pay anybody
[1:28:00] because it's a city tree.
[1:28:06] Shingles are like clear, you
[1:28:09] know? Like on the places where
[1:28:12] those, sorry, I am a little
[1:28:14] nervous. Okay, two times, the
[1:28:18] inspector which came he was very
[1:28:20] upset because I pointed to him,
[1:28:24] they sent two times to
[1:28:29] contractors to do the same job.
[1:28:31] After the ice storm, they came
[1:28:34] and the damage on the tree was
[1:28:36] so bad, so the Pointe-Claire
[1:28:40] security put the -- the branches
[1:28:46] were -- so they came and they
[1:28:49] removed broken branches. Then we
[1:28:53] start seeing there is still
[1:28:56] dangerous to our house and our
[1:28:58] cars. They sent another crew,
[1:29:01] and I asked, you know, can you
[1:29:03] cut this? No, we are just
[1:29:05] cutting the broken branches. I
[1:29:07] said to the contractor, the job
[1:29:09] was already done. Like, a few
[1:29:12] months ago, you know? So, when
[1:29:14] the inspector came, I mentioned
[1:29:16] that. And I think he got upset
[1:29:19] and he said, my branch doesn't,
[1:29:21] you know, the branch doesn't
[1:29:22] touch the roof. So, I tried to
[1:29:25] explain to him that physics, you
[1:29:29] know? Okay, I have a masters
[1:29:33] degree with the environmental
[1:29:37] protections and other things
[1:29:38] from my country, but it's a
[1:29:42] non-university, so I tried to
[1:29:44] explain to him if you take this,
[1:29:45] this, you can calculate,
[1:29:48] assuming rain or snow, and there
[1:29:49] still leaves touching the roof.
[1:29:52] When there is wind, there's
[1:29:54] moving back and forth, you know?
[1:29:57] So, I can present him and I
[1:29:59] showed him but he was very -- I
[1:30:02] asked him if he wants a letter,
[1:30:05] I have a letter in the garage. I
[1:30:06] said, if you want to see the
[1:30:07] damage on the cars, the small
[1:30:08] bumps already, -- he got upset,
[1:30:13] so it is my fault.
[1:30:14] >> Was he a city employee?
[1:30:16] >> Yes.
[1:30:19] >> You know, we can certainly, I
[1:30:21] can certainly check into that.
[1:30:23] Usually, our arborists are our
[1:30:26] specialists are pretty good at
[1:30:27] what they do, so I tend to take
[1:30:29] their opinion because I really
[1:30:32] don't. I'm not a tree
[1:30:34] specialist, so I tend to. I've
[1:30:35] heard what you've said and we
[1:30:37] can certainly look at it, you
[1:30:39] know?
[1:30:40] >> Please, please do. Thank you.
[1:30:44] >> Sorry, if I can say, maybe
[1:30:50] mentality or all the projects
[1:30:52] should be changed. You should
[1:30:54] not go and see if something can
[1:30:57] be cut and destroyed. You should
[1:31:00] maintain, you should maybe have
[1:31:02] a crew which goes, if you go on
[1:31:05] Hymus, there are some trees
[1:31:09] which are branches over the
[1:31:11] streets, over the things, which
[1:31:12] should be removed. Every country
[1:31:15] is doing that, sir. Not every
[1:31:17] country but some countries are
[1:31:18] doing that to prevent something
[1:31:23] happening and secondly, I'm
[1:31:27] going to tell you --
[1:31:28] >> I'm going to have to, there
[1:31:29] are other people with questions.
[1:31:31] We are spending a lot of time on
[1:31:32] the tree. I apologize. Suffice
[1:31:35] to say that I'm pretty sure
[1:31:37] people do trimmed trees and do
[1:31:39] try and do preventative work in
[1:31:40] their defence, and --
[1:31:43] >> Not according to him.
[1:31:45] >> Okay, I will check into it
[1:31:46] but I'm pretty sure -- thank you
[1:31:49] for alerting us to your issue.
[1:31:52] Your address?
[1:31:53] >> 110 pick wood Crescent.
[1:31:56] >> Thank you, sir.
[1:31:57] >> Okay and I thank you, thank
[1:32:00] you, Mr. Eric tried to help us,
[1:32:02] thank you very much.
[1:32:06] >> Lynn Conway?
[1:32:14] >> Good evening. In April, there
[1:32:20] is a special council meeting and
[1:32:23] what I would like to talk about
[1:32:24] my preamble, not the question
[1:32:26] yet. What's more important and
[1:32:30] what's good and not so good.
[1:32:33] There was a resolution for the
[1:32:38] asking the acronym is called M A
[1:32:40] M, Ministry of --
[1:32:45] >> M A M H.
[1:32:48] >> Okay, what he said. I can't
[1:32:51] say that. So, if we look at some
[1:32:58] councillors meant to the news,
[1:32:59] they were actually in the 6:00
[1:33:01] news saying that they want to
[1:33:04] fix things, they want to know
[1:33:07] what they're doing, what's
[1:33:08] happening wrong, so it can be
[1:33:10] fixed. But the examples that
[1:33:12] they gave or that I have heard
[1:33:15] of was the council meeting. So,
[1:33:18] for me, I'm just thinking, wow,
[1:33:20] there is such a list of other
[1:33:22] things that are way more
[1:33:24] important that are wrong that
[1:33:26] could be fixed before we even
[1:33:27] start talking about the council
[1:33:29] period or how long somebody is
[1:33:31] talking, is somebody clapping, I
[1:33:32] think that's down low on the
[1:33:33] list of priorities that the City
[1:33:35] should be looking at. For
[1:33:37] example, the developers, we are
[1:33:39] letting them do things that they
[1:33:41] should not. Shouldn't most new
[1:33:44] buildings have an eye on the
[1:33:45] street business? I think so.
[1:33:47] It's not happening. The other
[1:33:49] day, I went for a walk in my
[1:33:51] neighbourhood, I saw in the
[1:33:52] Veterans corridor a new home. I
[1:33:56] can't even call this a mega home
[1:33:58] anymore, it could fit probably
[1:33:59] four of my houses in this one
[1:34:02] house. And when we hear about
[1:34:03] there is a shortage of homes,
[1:34:06] that's where all these new
[1:34:07] development needs to be built,
[1:34:08] all these tall condo buildings.
[1:34:11] Well, this one home is, you
[1:34:13] know, how many people are going
[1:34:14] to be living in it? Two, three,
[1:34:18] four? I had six people living in
[1:34:19] my house. You could use the same
[1:34:21] space and have a semi detached
[1:34:25] duplex. You could have two homes
[1:34:28] side by side, you could have how
[1:34:29] many people living in there?
[1:34:31] Six, seven, eight? And
[1:34:34] apparently, I heard that there
[1:34:35] is a city bylaw where the -- was
[1:34:38] supposed to have a one car
[1:34:41] garage. This new home has a
[1:34:42] three car garage. It's a
[1:34:45] ginormous home. Can't even say
[1:34:47] mega home anymore.
[1:34:50] >> So, your question, Miss
[1:34:53] Conway?
[1:34:54] >> I don't have a question for
[1:34:55] this but I'm just anxious for
[1:34:57] the citizens consultation to be
[1:35:00] finished and the report done, so
[1:35:02] you can go and look at the
[1:35:04] zoning and change all these
[1:35:06] problems.
[1:35:07] >> Well apparently, the citizen
[1:35:08] consultation reports are up on
[1:35:09] the website. You, like everybody
[1:35:11] else that talks to me, doesn't
[1:35:13] know that or hasn't asks them,
[1:35:16] which is a point I made at a
[1:35:17] meeting not long ago. So, we
[1:35:19] will certainly work on that
[1:35:21] because for some odd reason, the
[1:35:24] reports are done, the citizens
[1:35:26] are not getting them. So, there
[1:35:28] is a problem there, I am aware
[1:35:29] of it, I spent some time on it
[1:35:32] quite arduously at one of our
[1:35:33] last meetings and we will
[1:35:35] continue to do so because I
[1:35:36] think it is a problem.
[1:35:38] >> -- Was supposed to, I thought
[1:35:40] they were supposed to do a
[1:35:41] report for Council, so Council
[1:35:43] could look at and then you can
[1:35:46] go back and look at all the the
[1:35:51] -- that you did. What was that
[1:35:54] meeting about the freeze? Is
[1:35:56] there going to be a vote after
[1:35:58] the freeze?
[1:35:59] >> What we are supposed to be
[1:36:00] doing is having a citizen
[1:36:02] participation exercise where
[1:36:03] we're getting information to
[1:36:05] contribute to the -- plan and
[1:36:07] each consultation, or not
[1:36:08] consultation, but each time the
[1:36:11] citizens met, apparently the
[1:36:13] reports are up and available. On
[1:36:17] the web.
[1:36:18] >> But the report is supposed to
[1:36:20] be for the Council to get those
[1:36:22] out of the freeze.
[1:36:23] >> What I would like, first and
[1:36:26] foremost, is an overarching
[1:36:28] report. Not just individual ones
[1:36:29] which I've also asked for, so
[1:36:30] that we can have some
[1:36:33] perspective that can contribute
[1:36:35] to the urban plan, and not just
[1:36:38] micro reports, not individual
[1:36:40] ones, like have an overarching
[1:36:41] vision that could influence the
[1:36:43] creation of the urban plan.
[1:36:45] That, ideally, is where we're
[1:36:46] still headed. We're not there
[1:36:48] yet. But we are headed in that
[1:36:50] direction. Your question, Miss
[1:36:54] Conway?
[1:36:55] >> It was just a comment to say
[1:36:56] I'm anxious for all of these
[1:36:59] consultations and the report to
[1:37:00] be finished, so there can be a
[1:37:02] vote, to get us out of the
[1:37:04] freeze.
[1:37:05] >> Yeah, so we can have an urban
[1:37:07] plan. --
[1:37:09] >> The sooner we have the urban
[1:37:10] plan, the sooner we can stop
[1:37:11] doing these mega homes and
[1:37:13] ginormous homes with three car
[1:37:16] garages.
[1:37:17] >> Well, provided the
[1:37:18] information we receive --
[1:37:19] >> Space for young families, we
[1:37:20] should be zoning lots as semi
[1:37:24] detached.
[1:37:25] >> Provided that is what the
[1:37:26] consultation or that's what the
[1:37:28] participatory process has come
[1:37:30] up with, yes. But you know how I
[1:37:33] think. I concur with what you
[1:37:34] are seeing entirely. I want to
[1:37:37] know specifically what the
[1:37:38] question is. You want a
[1:37:40] timeframe on that or?
[1:37:42] >> No. I just wanted to make a
[1:37:44] point that some councillors went
[1:37:48] to the news to say that there
[1:37:49] was a problem in the council.
[1:37:52] >> I got that, you've said. That
[1:37:53] >> But I think that's way down
[1:37:54] there on the list of priorities.
[1:37:55] The party should probably be to
[1:37:58] just --
[1:37:59] >> Miss Conway.
[1:38:00] >> What the developers are
[1:38:01] doing.
[1:38:02] >> You have said that, I've
[1:38:03] heard you. Is there a question,
[1:38:04] though?
[1:38:05] >> Okay, in regards to that,
[1:38:07] there was no question. Just my
[1:38:09] comments. My second point --
[1:38:11] >> Not a point, is there a
[1:38:12] question at some point? Okay, I
[1:38:15] would like to get a question.
[1:38:16] >> It's an additional topic. So,
[1:38:18] my background is accounting and
[1:38:19] every once in a while, I see,
[1:38:21] like, ridiculous expenses. I
[1:38:23] would like to know about 10.3 on
[1:38:26] the agenda today, it's $209,000
[1:38:30] for a dynamic, it says a dynamic
[1:38:36] screen. Is that those electronic
[1:38:38] billboards?
[1:38:39] >> I believe it is. What is your
[1:38:41] question, Miss Conway?
[1:38:42] >> Is this what it is? Are those
[1:38:45] billboards, where is it going to
[1:38:46] be installed?
[1:38:48] >> It's the billboard that's on
[1:38:50] St. John's that we have -- C'est
[1:38:55] l'écran que nous avons
[1:38:56] actuellement au Centre aquatique
[1:38:57] qui doit être remplacée, car
[1:38:59] elle est désuète. C'est un
[1:39:01] remplacement des grands qui
[1:39:02] existent déjà au Centre
[1:39:03] aquatique.
[1:39:04] - C'est par, là pas par là.
[1:39:08] >> Honestly, Mayor Thomas, I
[1:39:10] meet with people, they know
[1:39:11] nothing about the city.
[1:39:15] >> Okay.
[1:39:16] >> There's already a billboard
[1:39:18] here and those already won here
[1:39:20] in St. Johns. And at Douglas --
[1:39:24] there's one close to the highway
[1:39:25] on the east side of St. John's.
[1:39:28] I think that's enough
[1:39:30] information. You distribute
[1:39:31] enough things, there's a website
[1:39:34] like really and then when it
[1:39:36] goes defective in another five,
[1:39:37] ten years, will we replace
[1:39:38] again? Like, I paid enough taxes
[1:39:40] the last few years, my taxes
[1:39:42] went up so much.
[1:39:43] >> Miss Conway, your question?
[1:39:45] >> Can we watch our expenses?
[1:39:46] Like, every once in a while as
[1:39:47] the ridiculous expenses. This
[1:39:50] amount of money is ridiculous.
[1:39:52] >> Personally, I think that I
[1:39:54] like the billboards myself,
[1:39:55] personally. I think their good
[1:39:56] way of giving citizens, Miss
[1:39:58] Conway, I think we're pretty
[1:39:59] much done here. You have had
[1:40:02] preamble's, I need questions,
[1:40:03] which is what I've been asking
[1:40:04] for. So I will answer the
[1:40:06] billboard one. Myself, it sounds
[1:40:09] like a lot of money, I agree and
[1:40:11] I look at that money and go, is
[1:40:13] it worth it or is it not worth
[1:40:14] it? The billboards are helpful
[1:40:16] to the citizens. I like them.
[1:40:18] Personally, I think they
[1:40:19] transmit information myself,
[1:40:21] personally, I think Council,
[1:40:23] people, we have them because
[1:40:24] they've been supportive. Whether
[1:40:26] they cost too much, fair enough.
[1:40:27] If they keep breaking
[1:40:28] continually and it costs an
[1:40:29] awful lot of money, they
[1:40:30] definitely have to be looked
[1:40:32] into. So, is that the answer to
[1:40:34] your question? Yes.
[1:40:35] >> Mayor Thomas, it's not a
[1:40:37] street level billboard. It's the
[1:40:40] board inside the aquatic centre.
[1:40:43] The scoring board, the
[1:40:44] information board inside the
[1:40:46] aquatic centre that has aged out
[1:40:48] and needs to be replaced.
[1:40:50] >> Okay, so it's fundamental to
[1:40:52] the operation of the centre and
[1:40:55] probably a worthwhile expense
[1:40:56] would be my answer to that.
[1:40:58] Thanks, Miss Conway. Nasr El
[1:41:05] Dabee.
[1:41:09] >> Good evening. I hope
[1:41:10] everybody is doing well. My
[1:41:13] question was supposed to be last
[1:41:15] month about the special meeting
[1:41:18] about the special meeting when
[1:41:20] it was -- when you do the
[1:41:23] resolution. Because Mr. -- City
[1:41:35] bylaw for the answer for the
[1:41:39] question period. So, we never
[1:41:41] knew about this. And also, if or
[1:41:48] the City -- if you follow the
[1:41:53] city bylaw, nobody comes here to
[1:41:56] complain or to ask for, you
[1:41:59] know, them, they get out of the
[1:42:01] heat, they know follow that city
[1:42:03] bylaw and they ask us to follow
[1:42:08] the city bylaw, so please, can
[1:42:11] you all follow City bylaw and we
[1:42:17] ask first and you take the
[1:42:18] opinion of the existing citizens
[1:42:22] before you do any resolution
[1:42:27] concerning our city because we
[1:42:30] elected you, so we are supposed
[1:42:33] to know all about before you
[1:42:34] start doing a resolution and
[1:42:36] voting on it, we have to know
[1:42:38] first, is that good for us or
[1:42:40] not? He's shaking his head. This
[1:42:43] man, what he's shaking his head
[1:42:46] last time, he gave me the middle
[1:42:49] finger.
[1:42:50] >> Okay, Mr. Nasr El Dabee, I
[1:42:55] concur that if that is what has
[1:42:57] occurred, it's not a good thing.
[1:42:58] I'm not watching, I have not
[1:43:00] seen but that's probably not a
[1:43:02] good thing and the quorum goes
[1:43:04] two ways. If that indeed is
[1:43:06] happening, I apologize. As for
[1:43:11] your preamble, I'm just hoping,
[1:43:12] you have a specific question
[1:43:14] resulting from that?
[1:43:15] >> That's what I'm saying.
[1:43:17] >> What's your question?
[1:43:19] >> The City Council follow the
[1:43:22] resolution, all the City bylaw
[1:43:25] and be -- asked as for us, they
[1:43:27] took their opinion first before
[1:43:29] we started doing anything, we
[1:43:30] elected them.
[1:43:31] >> I think what you are
[1:43:32] referring to is the fact that
[1:43:36] the agenda, in the agenda, it
[1:43:40] wasn't explained, is that what
[1:43:41] you're saying? Or it wasn't
[1:43:43] available at the front door, is
[1:43:44] that what you're referring to?
[1:43:46] >> We came to the meeting, we
[1:43:47] don't know what was going on and
[1:43:51] we asked a question and we don't
[1:43:52] know what's going on.
[1:43:53] >> I remember that and I,
[1:43:55] myself, thought that it might
[1:43:56] have been worth photocopying a
[1:43:58] bit more and having on at the
[1:43:59] door, I concur with that
[1:44:01] assessment. But what is your
[1:44:03] question, Mr. El Dabee?
[1:44:05] >> I want to City Council to
[1:44:07] follow --
[1:44:08] >> That's not a question, that's
[1:44:09] a statement. Do you have a
[1:44:10] question?
[1:44:12] >> Are they going to do that or
[1:44:13] not?
[1:44:14] >> This is question period.
[1:44:15] >> Yes, I know.
[1:44:16] >> I think they all individually
[1:44:17] try as best they can to try to
[1:44:19] follow the rules of procedure.
[1:44:21] >> Okay because the second
[1:44:23] question, they're always talking
[1:44:26] about Cadillac Fairview, they
[1:44:27] pay 17% from that. Further
[1:44:30] taxes. They care too much about
[1:44:34] -- there exists citizens that
[1:44:36] pay more than 50% of our City
[1:44:39] taxes. Is that not supposed to
[1:44:40] be more important than Cadillac
[1:44:43] Fairview?
[1:44:45] >> It's supposed to be, all
[1:44:48] citizens are supposed to be
[1:44:49] equal, including corporations.
[1:44:51] So, that would be my answer.
[1:44:54] Every citizen has an equal
[1:44:56] percentage and that stacks up
[1:44:58] again with corporations. I think
[1:45:00] that democracy is democracy.
[1:45:02] That is my answer. Other people
[1:45:03] may disagree with that, that's
[1:45:05] my answer. I don't think there
[1:45:07] should be disproportionate
[1:45:09] waiting in a democracy, I don't.
[1:45:10] I think it should be fair to
[1:45:12] everyone, but that's just my
[1:45:13] perspective. And that's
[1:45:16] numerically, that's a hard
[1:45:17] calculation to make, and that
[1:45:19] requires much more explanation
[1:45:20] than we can do at the microphone
[1:45:21] here tonight. But your question
[1:45:25] is, should a corporation have
[1:45:27] more weight than the citizen?
[1:45:30] No. That's my answer. Others may
[1:45:33] disagree with me, okay? Is that
[1:45:35] your question, sir? That's your
[1:45:37] answer?
[1:45:38] >> But my question is --
[1:45:40] >> Mr. El Dabee, you've had to
[1:45:42] right now there are other people
[1:45:43] on the list. So, you've had two
[1:45:46] questions, I believe. I think we
[1:45:47] are good.
[1:45:49] >> Okay, so I hope really they
[1:45:51] listen and they are consulting
[1:45:52] us before they do anything.
[1:45:54] Thank you.
[1:45:55] >> Thank you, sir.
[1:45:56] >> May I address Mr. El Dabee or
[1:45:59] whatever?
[1:46:02] >> El Dabee.
[1:46:04] >> If you don't hear my name
[1:46:06] just don't say or Mr., you know?
[1:46:08] It's very simple.
[1:46:09] >> Mr. is good. I can remember
[1:46:11] that. Actually, I did point out
[1:46:15] to you after the meeting and I
[1:46:21] added a couple expletives. You
[1:46:24] are always at every meeting
[1:46:27] taking precious time out of the
[1:46:32] evil who will have good
[1:46:34] question. I can replay the last
[1:46:38] 20 assemblies and you always say
[1:46:41] the same thing. So, thank you
[1:46:45] and I meant it.
[1:46:50] >> It was right to give the
[1:46:52] middle finger?
[1:46:56] >> Mr. El Dabee, thank you.
[1:46:59] >> Paul Valois? Mr. El Dabee.
[1:47:08] >> In some ways I'm feeling a
[1:47:10] little bad because there's one
[1:47:11] word you are lacking in your
[1:47:13] vocabulary and the word is next.
[1:47:16] You've been stringing a lot of
[1:47:17] time on that soft.
[1:47:18] >> No actually, I've been
[1:47:19] expediting and I think that's
[1:47:20] unfair, sir. And you can come
[1:47:23] try it yourself but I think
[1:47:25] that's it through the adverse
[1:47:27] statement and if you replay the
[1:47:28] tape of this meeting, I think
[1:47:29] our statement is entirely
[1:47:31] unjust. Do you have a question,
[1:47:32] sir, or a preamble?
[1:47:33] >> I have a question --
[1:47:35] >> Do you have a preamble for
[1:47:36] the question or?
[1:47:37] >> No, I know how to act. I'm
[1:47:39] going to ask you the question.
[1:47:41] >> Name, please?
[1:47:43] >> Your name, please?
[1:47:44] >> Who --
[1:47:46] >> Paul Valois, I already stated
[1:47:48] it.
[1:47:50] >> The question I wanted to ask
[1:47:52] was actually but on Saint clear
[1:47:58] there with I mentioned it last
[1:48:00] time that we need more light
[1:48:02] there at night and since I don't
[1:48:05] have a sidewalk in there, it is
[1:48:07] very dangerous with a lot of
[1:48:08] young people.
[1:48:09] >> The bottom of St. Claire and
[1:48:11] lakeshore?
[1:48:12] >> Less in between Cartier and
[1:48:16] brunette, okay?
[1:48:17] >> Oh, on St. Claire, yeah.
[1:48:19] Pointe-Claire Avenue, St.
[1:48:20] Claire, yes.
[1:48:21] >> It's a big problem there too
[1:48:24] because -- just a thought of
[1:48:25] people.
[1:48:26] >> Between Cartier and Victoria,
[1:48:27] no?
[1:48:28] >> The stoplight at the corridor
[1:48:30] of St. Claire and brunette,
[1:48:33] should be at least lit up or --
[1:48:36] keep flying by their, they can't
[1:48:37] even stop. So, that's what we
[1:48:41] need. Okay? But think about the
[1:48:44] word next.
[1:48:45] >> I know, I'm very conscious of
[1:48:46] the word next and it's been on
[1:48:47] my mind the entire meeting,
[1:48:49] trust me. But I would ask you to
[1:48:51] think about the word rude and
[1:48:53] next and rude are pretty closely
[1:48:56] associated. Could I, Geneviève
[1:49:01] Lucia?
[1:49:08] >> I have two questions. One
[1:49:09] with a short preamble. La
[1:49:11] semaine dernière, il y avait un
[1:49:13] Martin vraiment intéressant dans
[1:49:14] Le Devoir qui s'appelait:
[1:49:15] l'adaptation climatique impose
[1:49:17] l'arrêt des milieux naturels du
[1:49:18] Québec. Dans l'article, on
[1:49:21] mentionne deux études super
[1:49:23] intéressantes. Une faite par le
[1:49:24] gouverneur caquiste est un fait
[1:49:27] par l'Union des municipalités du
[1:49:29] Québec. Qui mentionne toute
[1:49:32] l'importance de la protection de
[1:49:33] la biodiversité. En particulier,
[1:49:36] le fait que les besoins des
[1:49:38] municipalités pourraient
[1:49:39] s'élever à 20 milliards de
[1:49:40] dollars pour s'adapter aux
[1:49:42] changements climatiques. --
[1:49:48] Taxpayers will have to pay to
[1:49:49] adapt to climate change or cash,
[1:49:50] we should climate, climate
[1:49:51] emergency now. So, when I was at
[1:49:54] the last budget meeting, I asked
[1:49:55] at the end of the meeting if the
[1:49:57] City was going to be putting
[1:49:58] towards any ideas about funds
[1:50:00] towards climate resiliency or to
[1:50:03] adapt to climate change and I
[1:50:04] was told there was currently no,
[1:50:07] that was not on the table but I
[1:50:08] was wondering at this point,
[1:50:11] Dieu au fait qu'on sait qu'il va
[1:50:13] avoir des milliards de dollars à
[1:50:15] se préparer, pour se préparer
[1:50:17] pour les changements
[1:50:18] climatiques, je demandais si la
[1:50:20] Ville a commencé à faire de
[1:50:22] l'avant par rapport au budget,
[1:50:24] de mettre de l'argent de côté, à
[1:50:26] penser à ce qu'on va faire dans
[1:50:27] le futur. On parle du système
[1:50:30] d'eau potable, on parle des
[1:50:32] routes, des ponts, les cycles de
[1:50:34] dégel et gèlent, toutes des
[1:50:35] choses dont on a parlé ce soir,
[1:50:37] en fait, dont je demandais si la
[1:50:40] Ville avait fait des avancements
[1:50:43] ou des avances là-dessus.
[1:50:47] >> I mean, we have done some
[1:50:49] things, we've budgeted for
[1:50:51] things, absolutely. Have we put
[1:50:53] a specific budget aside? I don't
[1:50:55] think so. Unless, have we about
[1:51:00] it or have we accumulated among
[1:51:02] some for environmental
[1:51:04] protection as a city?
[1:51:05] >> We are beginning to have
[1:51:07] discussions, you know, for the
[1:51:08] next budget so for sure, the
[1:51:11] answer that we give last
[1:51:12] December was the same because
[1:51:13] the next budget would be in
[1:51:14] December. But they have
[1:51:16] discussions, you know, inside
[1:51:17] and we will see for the next
[1:51:19] year if Council wants to put
[1:51:21] aside some of those funds. But
[1:51:23] for sure, we're working on some
[1:51:25] projects for that.
[1:51:26] >> That's really good to hear, I
[1:51:27] appreciate that because it does
[1:51:28] mention that protecting green
[1:51:30] spaces is a way to reduce the
[1:51:33] fee to residents and taxpayers.
[1:51:35] A second really quick question
[1:51:36] is if there's any news about
[1:51:40] consultation about public green
[1:51:42] spaces and or Fairview forest,
[1:51:45] specifically.
[1:51:46] >> A very good questions. All of
[1:51:48] them. I will just say to
[1:51:50] protecting, as far as
[1:51:52] accumulating a fund for
[1:51:53] environmental protection, the
[1:51:55] simplest and easiest way to
[1:51:56] protect the environment is
[1:51:57] they're not cut trees until, so
[1:51:59] we protect our green spaces and
[1:52:00] not cut trees. It doesn't even
[1:52:02] require budgeting, although we
[1:52:03] can look into acquiring green
[1:52:05] spaces, which is another
[1:52:06] excellent way of accumulating --
[1:52:09] >> That was my league and I
[1:52:10] didn't go there, because I
[1:52:11] didn't have enough time but yes.
[1:52:12] >> I agree with it and I think
[1:52:13] overtime we should be looking
[1:52:14] into that, and if I had my own
[1:52:16] preference, I would be looking
[1:52:17] after the waterfront as well so
[1:52:19] that we, as a city, can start
[1:52:21] acquiring land along the
[1:52:22] waterfront as well as greens
[1:52:23] rates.
[1:52:24] >> They mentioned shorelines in
[1:52:25] the study.
[1:52:26] >> Absolutely although we are in
[1:52:27] defence of Pointe-Claire, we are
[1:52:29] getting a lot of flak for our
[1:52:31] new environmental approach to
[1:52:33] the shoreline. Where we are
[1:52:36] allowing it to not erode and to
[1:52:39] not heat up. We are allowing
[1:52:41] growth along the shoreline,
[1:52:43] according to new environmental
[1:52:45] standards. Which is the right
[1:52:47] thing to do, but is not popular
[1:52:48] for us right at the moment, so
[1:52:50] we are doing, there are some
[1:52:52] positive steps. The topic Drake
[1:52:54] is becoming a natural one, like
[1:52:55] a natural force. We're letting
[1:52:56] it go so it won't be mowed grass
[1:52:58] anymore. So, there are ways but
[1:53:00] yes, accumulating a fund for me
[1:53:03] is absolutely the right way to
[1:53:05] go and I would love us to go
[1:53:07] that route. As to your question
[1:53:09] about the consultation, one of
[1:53:10] the consultation, the citizen
[1:53:12] participation exercise for the
[1:53:14] Fairview forest, which Mr.
[1:53:16] Johnson has also alluded to,
[1:53:19] apparently it's still in the
[1:53:20] works. I'm not sure where we are
[1:53:21] at in that. I have pushed for
[1:53:23] that consistently on an almost
[1:53:26] weekly basis. Where are we at
[1:53:29] this point, Madam Verdon, on the
[1:53:32] consultation for the Cadillac
[1:53:34] Fairview, the Fairview forest?
[1:53:36] >> We were supposed -- couple
[1:53:42] weeks ago that we have workshops
[1:53:44] to do with the council before we
[1:53:47] decide what the next step will
[1:53:48] be for that.
[1:53:50] >> I don't want to take any more
[1:53:51] time, honestly. Somebody else is
[1:53:53] waiting but I had just been
[1:53:54] talking about this for a few
[1:53:55] months now and I hope it doesn't
[1:53:57] happen in the summer during
[1:53:58] vacation time, because that
[1:53:59] would be very unfortunate.
[1:54:00] >> For sure.
[1:54:02] Super, merci beaucoup.
[1:54:04] >> My concern is whether it
[1:54:06] happens but we will see.
[1:54:07] >> I will keep coming.
[1:54:08] >> Thank you, please do.
[1:54:09] >> Time is up, Mister Mayor.
[1:54:11] >> All right, so we did, just
[1:54:13] for peoples information, we did
[1:54:15] 17. So, I didn't use next
[1:54:17] because I love for questions but
[1:54:20] 17 aimed bad. Okay, so we will
[1:54:23] continue with the meeting.
[1:54:26] >> Can we do how much we were
[1:54:30] waiting?
[1:54:32] >> There were --
[1:54:33] >> Three people.
[1:54:34] >> To, Mickey Fortier and
[1:54:36] Felicia hinds.
[1:54:40] [Inaudible]
[1:54:41] >> Okay, so there is one that I
[1:54:42] didn't know about, okay. So for
[1:54:43] your information, on average, we
[1:54:44] get 11, 10 to 11 so this was a
[1:54:48] really high evening and we got
[1:54:50] 17 of 19 or 20? That's pretty
[1:54:55] good, though. If you look at any
[1:54:56] other City Council meetings,
[1:54:58] they don't get 17 people's
[1:54:59] questions answered. Go try it
[1:55:02] out, check it out, do your own
[1:55:03] homework, sir. And I remind you
[1:55:06] of the word rude. As opposed to
[1:55:09] next because I think it may be
[1:55:11] dangerously close to one of
[1:55:13] them. I encourage you to look at
[1:55:15] other councils, other city
[1:55:17] councils and see how many
[1:55:18] citizens the other questions
[1:55:20] responded to and compared, okay?
[1:55:22] Before you jump not, jump to
[1:55:24] conclusions, empirical science
[1:55:26] is a very good way to go. Okay,
[1:55:29] Madam people. Cinq virgule, un
[1:55:39] 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un
[1:55:40] projet de Règlement modifiant le
[1:55:41] règlement de construction
[1:55:42] PC-2786. Il y a eu de modifier
[1:55:44] des règlements d'instructions
[1:55:45] afin d'introduire une solution
[1:55:47] de rechange pour la construction
[1:55:48] d'un mur de séparation coupe peu
[1:55:50] à l'intérieur de l'immeuble
[1:55:52] multi-tannant.
[1:55:58] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:56:00] district three.
[1:56:01] >> Five point, three 3 Public
[1:56:03] consultation regarding a draft
[1:56:04] By-law amending By-law --
[1:56:07] >> Do I have a mover?
[1:56:08] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:56:10] district three.
[1:56:11] >> And seconder?
[1:56:12] Bruno Tremblay, district six. >>
[1:56:13] You know Tremblay, district six.
[1:56:14] >> All in favour? Merci.
[1:56:23] 5.3 Assemblée publique de
[1:56:24] consultation concernant un
[1:56:25] projet de Règlement modifiant le
[1:56:26] règlement PC-2957 sur les
[1:56:27] Projets particuliers de
[1:56:28] construction, de modification ou
[1:56:29] d'occupation d'un immeuble
[1:56:31] (PPCMOI)
[1:56:32] . Les personnes présentes
[1:56:33] peuvent s'adresser au conseil
[1:56:34] pour obtenir des informations
[1:56:35] sur ce règlement. En guise de
[1:56:38] rappel, l'avis de motion a été
[1:56:39] donnée et les premiers projets a
[1:56:41] été adoptée lors de la séance du
[1:56:43] mois de mai dernier. Ça
[1:56:45] règlement vise à retrancher le
[1:56:46] règlement un virgule 3,4
[1:56:48] concernant la tarification.
[1:56:49] Cette même tarification a été
[1:56:50] consolidé au règlement PC 29 ce
[1:56:53] 102, lequel est régulièrement
[1:56:56] modifié. À titre informatif, le
[1:56:57] projet de règlement ne contient
[1:56:59] aucune disposition propres
[1:57:01] règlements ces petites
[1:57:02] d'approbation référendaire, donc
[1:57:03] le conseil serait habilité à
[1:57:05] adopter la version finale ce
[1:57:06] soir.
[1:57:13] -
[1:57:14] 5,4.
[1:57:16] >> Adoption of a By-law dividing
[1:57:17] the territory of the City of
[1:57:18] Pointe-Claire in municipal
[1:57:19] districts.
[1:57:20] In the year proceeding a general
[1:57:21] election, the Council must
[1:57:22] ensure that the number of
[1:57:23] electors per district respects
[1:57:24] the ratios set out in the
[1:57:25] elections and referendums act.
[1:57:27] After review, three districts no
[1:57:29] longer comply with the ratios,
[1:57:31] namely four, five, and six.
[1:57:33] These three districts had to be
[1:57:35] re-divided to comply with the
[1:57:37] act. A map has been published on
[1:57:39] the cities website to illustrate
[1:57:40] the changes. Citizens had 15
[1:57:43] days to object. No objections
[1:57:44] have been received. Councillors
[1:57:46] may therefore proceed with this
[1:57:48] adoption. The bylaw will come
[1:57:49] into force on October 31st,
[1:57:52] 2024.
[1:57:53] 5,5: adoption de règlements sur
[1:57:55] l'utilisation de l'eau potable.
[1:57:56] Le principal objectif de ce
[1:57:59] règlement est de réduire la
[1:58:00] situation de l'eau potable en
[1:58:01] vue de préserver la qualité elle
[1:58:02] a quand c'était la ressource.
[1:58:04] Ils balisent entre autres les
[1:58:05] raccordement et les principales
[1:58:06] formes d'utilisation, tel
[1:58:08] arrosage et les remplissage de
[1:58:10] piscine.
[1:58:12] >> 5.6 Adoption of a By-law
[1:58:14] amending By-law PC-2962
[1:58:15] decreeing the exigible tariffs
[1:58:16] for the financing of properties,
[1:58:18] services and activities offered
[1:58:20] by the City of Pointe-Claire,
[1:58:21] for fiscal year 2024.
[1:58:23] The bylaw is amended to add a
[1:58:25] corporate rate for memberships
[1:58:26] of ten or more employees at the
[1:58:29] Oliver Urquhart Sports Centre.
[1:58:30] 5.7 Adoption d'un Règlement
[1:58:31] modifiant le règlement PC-2957
[1:58:32] sur les Projets particuliers de
[1:58:33] construction, de modification ou
[1:58:35] d'occupation d'un immeuble
[1:58:37] (PPCMOI)
[1:58:38] . Il s'agit de l'adoption finale
[1:58:39] de la Règlement décrit en 5,3.
[1:58:42] 6.1 Authorize the City of
[1:58:43] Pointe-Claire to lend equipment
[1:58:44] for the Lyrics & Lemonade
[1:58:45] Fundraiser.
[1:58:48] This fund-raiser is organized by
[1:58:50] Steven Cohen for the healthy
[1:58:51] kids fund benefiting the
[1:58:52] Montréal children's hospital
[1:58:54] foundation. The lyrics and
[1:58:56] lemonade event will take place
[1:58:57] on September 27th, 23, four in
[1:58:59] Northview park in Pointe-Claire.
[1:59:01] For the purpose of the event,
[1:59:02] Mr. Cohen is requesting that the
[1:59:03] City of Pointe-Claire land him
[1:59:04] equipment.
[1:59:07] >> And just before we proceed, I
[1:59:08] believe that councillors
[1:59:12] Bissonnette and Councillor
[1:59:14] Cousineau wanted to speak to
[1:59:17] 5.5. After we vote. So do I have
[1:59:21] a mover?
[1:59:23] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[1:59:25] four
[1:59:26] >> Councillor Bissonnette?
[1:59:28] >> I oppose this bylaw.
[1:59:33] >> Before he speaks -- okay. No
[1:59:37] --
[1:59:38] >> Mover, seconder.
[1:59:39] >> Do I have a seconder?
[1:59:40] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:59:42] >> Councillor Bissonnette?
[1:59:44] >> I oppose this amendment --
[1:59:48] to. Items item for, which is the
[1:59:50] enforcement of this present
[1:59:51] bylaw, and item 39, the issuance
[1:59:53] of a statement of offence. Je
[1:59:56] m'oppose à l'adoption
[1:59:58] directement qui est proposé,
[1:59:59] ici, à cause de l'item quatre
[2:00:01] qui est l'application et
[2:00:03] l'exécution du règlement de
[2:00:05] l'item 39 qui est la délivrance
[2:00:07] d'un constat d'infraction.
[2:00:10] Merci!
[2:00:14] - Pour les raisons que j'ai
[2:00:15] expliqué plus tôt, je vais
[2:00:18] ajouter aussi. On a touché
[2:00:21] là-dessus, c'est que dans le
[2:00:23] moment, il y a un tuyau qui est
[2:00:26] après être installé tout le long
[2:00:29] de Victoria, Sainte-Claire,
[2:00:32] Waverley, Leigh Viau, Lake Shore
[2:00:34] et tout ça. Notre parti des
[2:00:40] dépenses, des coûts est
[2:00:43] maintenant rendu à 9 millions.
[2:00:46] Ça, c'est nos coûts, à nous
[2:00:48] autres. C'était supposé nous
[2:00:49] sauver de l'argent. C'est ce 8
[2:00:54] millions-là qui auraient dû en
[2:00:55] temps normal, en temps normal,
[2:00:58] peut-être être mis et j'aurai la
[2:01:02] confirmation par l'ingénierie.
[2:01:05] C'est que ce 9 millions-là est
[2:01:10] dédié à rafales des rues. Luc
[2:01:14] s'est même rendu qu'avec
[2:01:16] Montréal, on ne choisit plus nos
[2:01:19] rues. Alors, il faut mettre fin
[2:01:22] à ça. J'espère que vous allez
[2:01:24] tous écrire pour supporter la
[2:01:27] Ville de Pointe-Claire. On se
[2:01:30] fait maltraiter par la glauque,
[2:01:34] la CMM et nommer toutes les
[2:01:36] autres agences. Je voulais
[2:01:39] rappeler que ça nous a coûté
[2:01:41] 183000 dollars parce qu'on ne
[2:01:44] pouvait pas mettre une petite
[2:01:47] case, un Tchèque dans une petite
[2:01:49] case qui disait: avez-vous un
[2:01:52] règlement pour contrôler
[2:01:53] l'arrosage des pelouses?
[2:01:56] Incroyable! Incroyable! La Ville
[2:01:58] de Pointe-Claire, depuis le
[2:02:00] milieu des années 60, a été
[2:02:04] exemplaire de ce côté-là. Alors,
[2:02:07] je demande aux gens vraiment de
[2:02:11] protester. C'est rendu ridicule.
[2:02:13] La Ville de Montréal va
[2:02:14] probablement faire faillite dans
[2:02:17] quelques mois. Au maximum,
[2:02:21] quelques années et ils vont nous
[2:02:23] emporter avec ils autres. Il
[2:02:26] faut mettre un frein à ça. Par
[2:02:27] les votre députés, parler à vous
[2:02:32] conseiller et tout ça et
[2:02:34] écrivez, écrivez s'il vous
[2:02:36] plaît. Merci.
[2:02:37] - Merci.
[2:02:39] >> Mister Mayor, I'd like to --
[2:02:41] >> Yeah.
[2:02:42] >> I acknowledge the concerns of
[2:02:43] my colleagues, Councillor
[2:02:46] Bissonnette and Councillor
[2:02:48] Cousineau. I think there are
[2:02:49] some things in this bylaw that
[2:02:50] probably should be amended.
[2:02:51] Let's not forget with the mayor
[2:02:53] said in the introductory
[2:02:54] remarks. The motivation for
[2:02:56] doing this bylaw now is if we
[2:02:59] pass it now, we are eligible for
[2:03:04] 100, or more, hundreds of
[2:03:05] thousands of dollars a subsidies
[2:03:07] from the provincial government
[2:03:08] for our water infrastructure
[2:03:09] projects. If we do not pass, it
[2:03:10] were not eligible. So we're kind
[2:03:12] of between a rock and a hard
[2:03:14] place on this one. I agree that
[2:03:18] the -- we pay for the water we
[2:03:21] consume, because our water is
[2:03:23] metres, unlike the City of
[2:03:25] Montréal, so that should make an
[2:03:26] influence on incentive towards
[2:03:30] conservation. That said, the
[2:03:31] world is changing. The
[2:03:34] environment is changing. There
[2:03:35] is an environmental concern as
[2:03:36] well that we probably should
[2:03:38] start learning how to conserve
[2:03:41] water ourselves, and also my son
[2:03:44] mentioned the other day when he
[2:03:45] was watering the lawn at night
[2:03:47] that the sprinkler through the
[2:03:49] water a lot further. So it does
[2:03:51] suggest there is pressure
[2:03:53] fluctuations in the day due to
[2:03:54] consumption. So maybe it is
[2:03:56] necessary going forward that we
[2:03:58] start to plan our and influence
[2:04:01] our consumption of water. There
[2:04:04] will be a communications plan
[2:04:06] that we implement to explain to
[2:04:08] everybody exactly -- there are
[2:04:12] significant lifestyle changes
[2:04:13] that her -- with this bylaw in
[2:04:16] terms of when and when you can't
[2:04:17] water your lawn. That's kind of
[2:04:19] annoying. I can understand that,
[2:04:20] to have the government interfere
[2:04:23] that. But perhaps it is
[2:04:25] necessary. But we will be
[2:04:27] looking at it. It won't be
[2:04:28] enforced in a draconian way
[2:04:30] immediately. So we are going to
[2:04:31] have a year or so to learn and
[2:04:35] adjust our behaviours and push
[2:04:38] back, if we need to. We can
[2:04:39] amend this bylaw. There's
[2:04:41] nothing that can stop us from
[2:04:42] doing that. But you remember
[2:04:43] please that there's hundreds of
[2:04:44] thousands of dollars at stake,
[2:04:46] which is why we are doing it now
[2:04:47] instead of, well, for us, for
[2:04:50] us, hundreds of thousands right
[2:04:52] now. And that is the influence
[2:04:55] in the timing of this vote
[2:04:58] tonight.
[2:05:00] >> Councillor Bissonnette? You
[2:05:02] want to read one of the clauses?
[2:05:03] >> I want to the details, item
[2:05:05] four, endless, responsibility
[2:05:07] for applying the water use
[2:05:09] measures.
[2:05:12] [Whispering]
[2:05:13] Closer to the mic.
[2:05:14] >> Pardon? Okay. The reason why
[2:05:16] I'm opposing it is because this
[2:05:17] is what's in the bylaws being
[2:05:19] proposed. The enforcement of the
[2:05:20] present bylaw is the
[2:05:21] responsibility of the planning,
[2:05:24] engineering, inspection, public
[2:05:26] security, and public works
[2:05:28] departments of the
[2:05:29] Municipalities, fire
[2:05:31] departments. Any employee of
[2:05:33] these departments is authorized
[2:05:35] to take legal action against
[2:05:37] anyone contravene in the present
[2:05:40] bylaw. Any employee may visit
[2:05:42] and examine any immovable,
[2:05:44] including the interior exterior
[2:05:46] of buildings, to ascertain
[2:05:48] whether the present bylaw is
[2:05:49] being complied with and the
[2:05:51] owners of such buildings are
[2:05:52] required to allow such persons
[2:05:54] to enter. The municipal council
[2:05:57] made by resolution may appoint
[2:05:59] other persons in addition to
[2:06:01] these, mention in the present
[2:06:03] section, for application of the
[2:06:04] present bylaw. I don't agree
[2:06:07] that five departments should all
[2:06:09] be going around and
[2:06:13] investigating. I'm totally
[2:06:14] against that. Now, the other
[2:06:16] item is 39. That's a question of
[2:06:24] issuance of statement. Any
[2:06:25] employee that was referred to in
[2:06:26] the previous action of the
[2:06:28] present bylaw is authorized to
[2:06:31] issue statements of offence
[2:06:33] relating to any contravention of
[2:06:34] this bylaw. And again, it's not
[2:06:37] just anybody who's going to
[2:06:38] start issuing issues of
[2:06:42] statements.
[2:06:43] >> Okay. So for five point 4 to
[2:06:47] 6 --
[2:06:49] [Inaudible]
[2:06:55] >> You want to read it in? La
[2:06:56] responsabilité d'implication des
[2:06:57] mesures. French Ça, c'est l'item
[2:07:01] quatre. L'implication et
[2:07:02] l'exécution du présent règlement
[2:07:03] sur la responsabilité des
[2:07:06] services de l'urbanisme, de
[2:07:09] l'ingénierie, de l'inspection
[2:07:10] Sécurité publique et de
[2:07:12] l'inspection Sécurité publique
[2:07:13] et des Travaux publics et
[2:07:14] immeubles de la ville. Tout
[2:07:16] employé de l'un ou de l'autre de
[2:07:18] ces services est autorisé à
[2:07:20] poursuivre les contrevenants ce
[2:07:22] règlement. Tout employé peut
[2:07:24] visiter et examiner toutes
[2:07:25] immeubles incluant ainsi
[2:07:27] l'intérieur ou l'extérieur du
[2:07:29] bâtiment pour constater ce ce
[2:07:31] règlement est respecté et les
[2:07:33] propriétaires de ces immeubles
[2:07:34] et bâtiments sont tenus d'y
[2:07:36] laisser pénétrer ces personnes.
[2:07:38] Le conseil municipal peut faire
[2:07:40] résolution nommer d'autres
[2:07:42] personnes en plus de seuls
[2:07:43] mentionné dans le présente
[2:07:44] article. Pour l'application du
[2:07:46] règlement présent. Je suis
[2:07:48] contre ça avec cinq départements
[2:07:50] qui sont avec le contrôle. Ça va
[2:07:53] être incroyable. L'item 39.
[2:07:58] C'est la délivrance d'un constat
[2:08:01] d'infraction. Tout employé visé
[2:08:02] à l'article 4 du présent
[2:08:05] règlement est autorisé à
[2:08:07] délivrer un constat d'infraction
[2:08:09] relatif à toute infraction au
[2:08:12] présent règlement. Encore une,
[2:08:13] fois ce n'est pas n'importe qui
[2:08:14] qui lit des constats
[2:08:16] d'infraction. Merci.
[2:08:19] - Merci monsieur Bissonnette.
[2:08:22] Pour 5,4 et 6,1...
[2:08:25] All in favour? Against?
[2:08:29] Juste pour être clair... juste
[2:08:33] pour être clair, vous votez
[2:08:35] contre 5,5?
[2:08:38] - Vous êtes en faveur de tous
[2:08:39] les autres.
[2:08:40] - Monsieur Bissonnette, la même
[2:08:42] chose?
[2:08:43] - J'approuve 5,5.
[2:08:44] - C'est noté. >>
[2:08:54] 6.2 Autoriser la ville de
[2:08:55] Pointe-Claire à prêter des
[2:08:56] équipements pour l'événement The
[2:08:57] Big Give organisé par l'Église
[2:08:58] Baptiste de Lakeside Heights. Il
[2:08:59] s'agit de rectifie le prêt
[2:09:00] d'équipement pour l'événement de
[2:09:03] The Big Give organisé par
[2:09:04] l'Église Baptiste de Lakeside
[2:09:05] Heights. Qui offre graduellement
[2:09:06] des items et des services pour
[2:09:07] la communauté. L'événement a eu
[2:09:08] lieu le 1er juin 2024 heures
[2:09:09] dans le stationnement de
[2:09:12] l'Église Baptiste à
[2:09:14] Pointe-Claire. >> 6.3 Authorize
[2:09:15] the City of Pointe-Claire to
[2:09:16] lend equipment to the Strangers
[2:09:17] in the Night Foundation and
[2:09:18] repeal resolution -- please
[2:09:19] hold.
[2:09:24] >> We just have to know when
[2:09:26] someone, the room. Okay.
[2:09:32] >> 6.3 Authorize the City of
[2:09:33] Pointe-Claire to lend equipment
[2:09:34] to the Strangers in the Night
[2:09:35] Foundation and repeal resolution
[2:09:36] 2024-139.
[2:09:37] A new resignation is required
[2:09:39] due to a change in date of the
[2:09:40] event from August 17th to
[2:09:42] September 14th, and the original
[2:09:44] resolution was to approve the
[2:09:45] loan of equipment.
[2:09:50] 6.4 Autoriser la ville de
[2:09:51] Pointe-Claire à prêter des
[2:09:52] équipements pour un tournoi de
[2:09:53] levée de fonds organisé par
[2:09:54] Pointe-Claire Ladies Softball.
[2:09:55] Le tournoi organisé par
[2:09:56] Pointe-Claire Ladies Softball
[2:09:57] est une levée de fonds pour le
[2:09:58] département d'oncologie général
[2:10:00] juif. Le tournoi aura lieu du 12
[2:10:01] au 14 juin 2024, dans les parcs
[2:10:04] Valois, à Pointe-Claire, pour la
[2:10:05] levée de fonds Pointe-Claire
[2:10:09] Ladies Softball. On demande à la
[2:10:10] Ville de plaintes claire de leur
[2:10:11] prêter des actes. >> 6.5
[2:10:13] Authorize the participation of
[2:10:14] two
[2:10:15] (2)
[2:10:16] members of Council and the Mayor
[2:10:17] at the 14th edition of the golf
[2:10:18] tournament organized by the
[2:10:19] Teresa Dellar Palliative Care
[2:10:20] Residence to be held on August
[2:10:21] 19, 2024, at the Royal Montreal
[2:10:22] Golf Club.
[2:10:24] The city covers the expenses
[2:10:26] related to this activity at a
[2:10:27] cost of $2,800, which includes
[2:10:29] the participation of councillors
[2:10:31] Stork and Tremblay for $2,500
[2:10:35] and the mayor's expense of 300,
[2:10:36] as well as all expenses related
[2:10:37] to their participation in the
[2:10:38] event.
[2:10:39] 6.6 Autoriser la participation
[2:10:40] de quatre
[2:10:41] (4)
[2:10:42] membres du conseil et le maire à
[2:10:43] la 13ième édition du tournoi de
[2:10:44] golf organisé par les Hôpitaux
[2:10:45] Shriners pour enfants devant se
[2:10:47] tenir le 8 août 2024 au Club de
[2:10:48] golf Summerlea. La ville assumer
[2:10:52] des
[2:10:53] (---)
[2:10:54] au coût de 4000
[2:10:58] (---)
[2:10:59] et des conseillers. Et Paul
[2:11:03] Bissonnette 4000 dollars et les
[2:11:04] frais du rapport du maire de 60
[2:11:05] dollars, demain
[2:11:07] (---)
[2:11:08] participation à l'événement.
[2:11:11] >> 6.7, two Authorize the
[2:11:13] participation of two
[2:11:14] (2)
[2:11:15] members of Council and the Mayor
[2:11:16] at the 31st edition of the golf
[2:11:17] tournament organized by NOVA
[2:11:18] West Island to be held on August
[2:11:19] 12, 2024, at the Beaconsfield
[2:11:20] Golf Club.
[2:11:21] The city covers the expenses
[2:11:22] related to this activity at a
[2:11:23] cost of $1,650, which includes
[2:11:27] the participation of councillors
[2:11:29] Stork and Tremblay for 1400, and
[2:11:31] the Mayor's meal expense for
[2:11:34] $250, as well as all expenses
[2:11:36] related to the participation in
[2:11:38] the event.
[2:11:43] 6.8 Accorder un soutien
[2:11:44] financier pour un montant total
[2:11:45] de 25 000 $ à l'Association des
[2:11:46] marchands du village de
[2:11:47] Pointe-Claire. La dissidence
[2:11:48] hier servira au projets
[2:11:49] suivants... la création d'un
[2:11:50] site Internet, une carte
[2:11:51] touristique imprimé, des chaises
[2:11:53] Adirondacks et 11 événements
[2:11:55] durant l'année 2024. 6,2 à 6,8
[2:12:10] Merci.
[2:12:13] >> 7.1 File the minutes of the
[2:12:14] April 18, 2024, meeting of the
[2:12:15] Public Art Committee.
[2:12:17] 7.2 Nommer des membres au sein
[2:12:18] du Comité consultatif de la
[2:12:19] Bibliothèque publique de
[2:12:20] PointeClaire. Les deux membres
[2:12:22] nommés pour une période de 3 ans
[2:12:24] sont mesdames Marie-Élyse la
[2:12:26] faille Magnan et François
[2:12:28] Tremblay.
[2:12:29] 7.3
[2:12:31] Appoint members to the Youth
[2:12:32] Advisory Board.
[2:12:33] Before new members are Olivia
[2:12:34] Rogers, cannot mom, the NFL as
[2:12:36] easy, and Michelle Lee. Alors,
[2:12:41] pour 7,2 à 7,3
[2:12:47] And a seconder?
[2:12:48] >> Since the Homan, district
[2:12:51] five. 10.1 Déposer la liste des
[2:12:55] amendements budgétaires et le
[2:12:56] registre des chèques pour la
[2:12:57] période du 29 avril 2024 au 26
[2:12:58] mai 2024.
[2:13:00] >> Ten point, to Authorize the
[2:13:01] transfer of budget accounts
[2:13:02] related to reserves and to
[2:13:03] working funds for which the
[2:13:06] projects, work realization or
[2:13:07] purchase of equipment is either
[2:13:08] completed or cancelled.
[2:13:09] An amount of $1,670 -- is
[2:13:14] transferred from budget account
[2:13:17] -- towards budget account --.
[2:13:21] This summit will be used for the
[2:13:23] project rehabilitation of
[2:13:25] playground equipment at
[2:13:26] Lansdowne, Cedar, and Kinsmen
[2:13:27] Parks, in order to redevelop
[2:13:29] play structures and Parks while
[2:13:30] respecting the principle of
[2:13:32] universal accessibility. 10.3
[2:13:33] Octroyer un contrat pour la
[2:13:34] fourniture et l'installation
[2:13:35] d'un écran dynamique, à
[2:13:39] LIBERTÉVISION
[2:13:40] (CONTRÔLE CONCEPT DYNAMIQue
[2:13:41] INC.)
[2:13:42] , pour un montant total de 209
[2:13:43] 884,56 $, taxes incluses. Cet
[2:13:45] achat permettra de remplacer des
[2:13:47] écrans désuets de même dimension
[2:13:48] au centre aquatique.
[2:13:52] - Pour 10,2 à 10,3
[2:13:54] Do I have a mover? - Une autre
[2:13:57] emballée, seigneurie.
[2:13:58] And seconder? - Claude
[2:13:59] Cousineau, district un. All in
[2:14:00] favour?
[2:14:02] - Merci. >> 10.4, Award a
[2:14:04] contract for the purchase of 8
[2:14:05] Cisco UCS 2408 Fabric Expansion
[2:14:06] Modules, to ITI INC.
[2:14:11] , For a total amount of $ 66,
[2:14:13] 686. 42, taxes included.
[2:14:17] This type of system is the core
[2:14:19] component of a you see a
[2:14:21] solution, providing unified
[2:14:23] network and service management
[2:14:24] capabilities to services. 10.5
[2:14:25] Approuver une modification au
[2:14:26] contrat intervenu avec
[2:14:27] MICROSOFT, pour l'achat des
[2:14:28] licences d'abonnements Microsoft
[2:14:29] pour les années 2022, 2023 et
[2:14:30] 2024, pour un montant de 50 000
[2:14:32] $, taxes incluses. En raison de
[2:14:36] l'arrivée des étudiants pour la
[2:14:37] saison estivale et les besoins
[2:14:40] d'utilisation d'applications
[2:14:41] dans la suite Microsoft pour les
[2:14:42] usagers, l'achat de licences
[2:14:44] supplémentaires qui.
[2:14:52] Bruno Tremblay, seigneurie.
[2:14:54] - Claude Cousineau, district un.
[2:14:57] >> All in favour?
[2:15:03] 12.1 File the list of delegated
[2:15:04] staff changes for the month of
[2:15:05] June 2024.
[2:15:08] 12.2 Approuver la liste des
[2:15:09] changements au personnel par
[2:15:10] décisions non déléguées au 4
[2:15:11] juin 2024.
[2:15:12] >> 12.3 Approve an update to the
[2:15:14] recreational benefits granted to
[2:15:15] employees.
[2:15:18] - 12,2 à 12,3, un district
[2:15:22] quatre. Do I have a mover?
[2:15:26] >> And seconder?
[2:15:28] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:15:29] district three.
[2:15:30] >> All in favour?
[2:15:31] 14.1 Approuver le renouvellement
[2:15:32] d'une entente de partenariat et
[2:15:34] de contribution financière pour
[2:15:35] l'Observation de la gestion
[2:15:37] intégrée de l'espace public
[2:15:39] urbain du CERIU et de siéger au
[2:15:41] nom de la Ville au conseil
[2:15:45] scientifique de l'Observatoire.
[2:15:48] Une autorisations requises pour
[2:15:50] monsieur Éric Roland, directeur
[2:15:51] des Travaux publics à signer
[2:15:52] leur gouvernement de l'entente
[2:15:54] est à siéger au Conseil
[2:15:56] scientifique de l'Observatoire.
[2:15:59] >> 14.2, Award a contract for
[2:16:03] the sandblasting and painting of
[2:16:04] fire hydrants for the 2024
[2:16:05] season, to NETTOYAGE SPECIALISE
[2:16:06] GE, for a total amount of $ 31,
[2:16:08] 388. 18, taxes included, with
[2:16:13] two optional seasons.
[2:16:16] The sandblasting impeding
[2:16:18] services are required in order
[2:16:19] to maintain the city's fire --
[2:16:20] in good conditions. 14.3
[2:16:21] Octroyer un contrat pour le
[2:16:22] traitement des frênes par
[2:16:23] injection sur les domaines
[2:16:24] public et privé pour l'année
[2:16:25] 2024 à BIO-CONTRÔLE ACÉRICOLE.
[2:16:30] Ce projet s'inscrit dans le
[2:16:32] cadre de la stratégie de la
[2:16:33] Ville de Pointe-Claire pour la
[2:16:35] lutte à la grève Dufresne
[2:16:36] adoptée en 2015. Dans les
[2:16:38] activités annuelles prévues, le
[2:16:40] projet nous a permis de traiter
[2:16:42] environ 1400 armes depuis 2015.
[2:16:44] Les quantités d'arbres à traiter
[2:16:45] ont diminué depuis le début de
[2:16:46] la stratégie. Ce projet
[2:16:48] permettra aussi de ralentir
[2:16:50] l'agrile en empêchant la
[2:16:51] progression et la dispersion de
[2:16:52] cette dernière sur le
[2:16:54] territoire, ainsi que la
[2:16:55] conservation des freins de
[2:16:57] qualité. 14.4 Award a contract
[2:16:59] for pneumatic excavation
[2:17:00] services for replacement of
[2:17:01] water service boxes and valve
[2:17:03] boxes for the year 2024, to
[2:17:06] 9363-9888 QUEBEC INC.
[2:17:08] (SANIVAC)
[2:17:09] , For a total amount of $
[2:17:11] 73,871.44, taxes included, with
[2:17:12] one optional year.
[2:17:16] 15.1 Octroyer un contrat pour la
[2:17:17] fourniture et la livraison de
[2:17:18] produits chimiques pour les
[2:17:19] piscines intérieures pour la
[2:17:20] période de la mi-juin 2024 au 31
[2:17:21] mai 2025, à AQUATECHNO
[2:17:22] SPÉCIALISTES AQUATIQueS INC. >>
[2:17:23] Pneumatic excavation makes it
[2:17:24] possible to quickly and cost
[2:17:25] effectively to replace water
[2:17:26] service boxes and valve boxes
[2:17:27] without having to dig large
[2:17:28] trenches with heavy equipment.
[2:17:29] >> For 14.1 to 14.4, do I have a
[2:17:30] mover?
[2:17:31] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:17:32] >> And seconder?
[2:17:33] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:17:34] >> All in favour?
[2:17:50] , Pour un montant total de 75
[2:17:51] 614,46 $, taxes incluses, avec
[2:17:53] deux périodes en option. There
[2:17:59] was two typos in the English
[2:18:02] version on the agenda. The
[2:18:04] year's 2024 to May -- 2025. I
[2:18:09] just want to make this clear.
[2:18:11] 15.2
[2:18:12] Adjust the expenses towards
[2:18:13] ATELIER MILIEU for professional
[2:18:15] services as part of project
[2:18:19] 22-073, which is Envelope and
[2:18:21] basement work for the Valois
[2:18:22] library, for an amount of $
[2:18:23] 4,599, taxes included.
[2:18:25] The addition of presentation of
[2:18:27] the design concept for the
[2:18:29] library basement in the
[2:18:30] production of 3D images,
[2:18:32] perspectives generated
[2:18:33] additional fees. De 15,1 15,2
[2:18:37] Do I have a mover?
[2:18:39] - Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[2:18:40] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[2:18:41] -
[2:18:42] >> Seconder?
[2:18:43] >> A lot Bissonnette, district
[2:18:44] to.
[2:18:45] >> All in favour?
[2:18:52] Les personnes présentes peuvent
[2:18:54] s'adresser au Conseil concernant
[2:18:55] les items 17,1 17,5. The
[2:18:58] person's present may address
[2:19:00] Council on the item 17.1 to
[2:19:03] 17.5. 17.1 Considérer une
[2:19:04] demande de dérogation mineure
[2:19:05] concernant la propriété située
[2:19:06] au 281, chemin du
[2:19:08] Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore. Pour
[2:19:12] permettre un plan des façades
[2:19:13] d'une largeur de 12,64 mètre
[2:19:16] plutôt que le maximum permis de
[2:19:17] 12 mètres. 17.2 Consider a minor
[2:19:21] exemption request concerning the
[2:19:23] property situated at 335
[2:19:24] Brunswick Boulevard.
[2:19:25] It is to permit the installation
[2:19:26] of factory painted metal panels,
[2:19:29] class B, rather than the
[2:19:30] installation of a class A
[2:19:32] cladding material. 17.3
[2:19:33] Considérer une demande de
[2:19:34] dérogation mineure concernant la
[2:19:35] propriété située au 335A,
[2:19:37] boulevard Brunswick. Pour
[2:19:40] permettre à l'installation des
[2:19:41] panneaux métalliques fait en
[2:19:43] usine, plutôt classe B, plutôt
[2:19:46] que l'installation d'un matériau
[2:19:47] de parlement de classe à. 17.4
[2:19:51] Consider a minor exemption
[2:19:52] request concerning the property
[2:19:56] situated at 12 1/2 Cedar Avenue.
[2:19:57] To permit a detached family
[2:19:59] dwelling with a floor area above
[2:20:00] ground of 412 point 71 square
[2:20:03] metres rather than the maximum
[2:20:04] permitted of 384 square metres.
[2:20:14] 17.5 Considérer une demande de
[2:20:15] dérogation mineure concernant la
[2:20:17] propriété située au 120, avenue
[2:20:18] Michigan. Pour permettre un
[2:20:21] Porsche avec un empiétement dans
[2:20:23] la marge minimale avant avec une
[2:20:25] profondeur additionnelle de 1,68
[2:20:27] mètre, plutôt que le maximum
[2:20:28] permis de 1,6 mètres et un
[2:20:30] empiétement dans la marge
[2:20:31] minimale avant avec une
[2:20:33] superficie au sol de 7,73 mètre
[2:20:36] carré, plutôt que le maximum
[2:20:37] autorisé de 6 mètres carrés.
[2:20:41] 17.6 Consider the site planning
[2:20:42] and architectural integration
[2:20:43] programme plans with respect to
[2:20:44] the property situated at 281 Du
[2:20:46] Bord-du-Lac Lakeshore Road.
[2:20:47] It is an extension.
[2:20:49] >> For 17.1 to 17.6, do I have a
[2:20:52] mover?
[2:20:54] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:20:56] >> And seconder?
[2:20:57] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:20:58] >> All in favour? Merci! 17.7
[2:21:06] Considérer les plans
[2:21:07] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:21:08] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:21:09] propriété située au 46, avenue
[2:21:11] Broadview. C'est une démolition
[2:21:14] est nouvelle construction.
[2:21:15] >> 17 point, eight to consider
[2:21:17] the site planning and
[2:21:19] architectural integration
[2:21:21] programme plans with respect to
[2:21:22] the property situated at 335
[2:21:23] Brunswick Boulevard.
[2:21:24] It is an extension.
[2:21:25] 17.9 Considérer les plans
[2:21:26] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:21:27] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:21:28] propriété située au 335A,
[2:21:29] boulevard Brunswick. Pour une
[2:21:31] extension. >> 17.10 Consider the
[2:21:33] site planning and architectural
[2:21:34] integration programme plans with
[2:21:35] respect to the property situated
[2:21:38] at 12.5 Cedar Avenue.
[2:21:39] 17.11 Considérer les plans
[2:21:40] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:21:41] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:21:42] propriété située au 117, avenue
[2:21:43] Highgate. It is a new
[2:21:44] construction.
[2:21:46] C'est concernant de nouvelles
[2:21:47] constructions. >> 17 point, 12
[2:21:49] Consider the site planning and
[2:21:50] architectural integration
[2:21:52] programme plans with respect to
[2:21:54] the property situated at 120
[2:21:55] Michigan Avenue.
[2:21:56] It is an extension.
[2:21:57] 17.13 Considérer les plans
[2:21:58] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:21:59] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:22:00] propriété située au 150, avenue
[2:22:01] Prince-Edward. C'est pour une
[2:22:04] démolition et nouvelles
[2:22:05] constructions. Pour 17,7 à 17,13
[2:22:19] - C'est concernant dérogation
[2:22:21] mineure, Madame? >> I was one of
[2:22:25] the person who didn't answer a
[2:22:26] question, because I've concerns
[2:22:27] on 17.7. And I'm just wondering
[2:22:31] when I can actually voice those
[2:22:34] concerns, because it's the first
[2:22:35] time is on the agenda.
[2:22:36] >> For this item, it was at the
[2:22:38] question. Period
[2:22:39] >> Okay, but my name was on the
[2:22:40] list, and then I have to ask a
[2:22:42] question. So now my next door
[2:22:44] neighbour is going to demolish
[2:22:45] and build a new construction,
[2:22:46] and I don't get to voice my
[2:22:48] concern because I don't have
[2:22:49] enough time, because the council
[2:22:50] didn't have enough time.
[2:22:52] >> It says the person's present
[2:22:53] may address Council on the items
[2:22:54] seven point 21, but it's below.
[2:22:59] That
[2:23:00] >> It's for minor exemption, but
[2:23:01] there was previous to this
[2:23:03] meeting, there was a certain
[2:23:06] media demolition committee
[2:23:08] hearing.
[2:23:09] >> It's not about the demolition
[2:23:11] committee, I understand they
[2:23:12] want to demolish, and I
[2:23:13] understand, I'm sorry, I'm
[2:23:14] talking to you -- it's hard to
[2:23:15] talk to everybody. I understand
[2:23:17] they want to demolish. Our
[2:23:19] concern is with the new plans,
[2:23:22] and so, I don't want to take too
[2:23:24] much time, but it's just we have
[2:23:26] concerns about the new plans. We
[2:23:28] don't want to oppose the fact
[2:23:29] that they take on the house and
[2:23:31] rebuild. It's the fact that they
[2:23:32] are going to rebuild something
[2:23:34] that's very bare and it's going
[2:23:37] to take a lot more space and
[2:23:39] it's going to cut in the privacy
[2:23:41] of the yard and cut in the sun
[2:23:43] coming through. So basically, we
[2:23:44] wanted to voice some concern.
[2:23:46] That's mainly -- so I can do it?
[2:23:48] Now
[2:23:49] >> You've just done so.
[2:23:51] >> I have one more concern I'd
[2:23:52] like to voice, if you allow me,
[2:23:56] so -- and also, this style does
[2:23:59] not fit with the style on broad
[2:24:02] view. And they're all, like,
[2:24:03] hold houses from the 50s. And
[2:24:05] from what we've seen from the
[2:24:07] plan, it's gonna be a big
[2:24:08] McMansion that looks like -- not
[2:24:11] like Pointe-Claire. So it
[2:24:15] doesn't fit with the visual,
[2:24:16] let's say, harmony of the
[2:24:19] street. And it's going to be
[2:24:20] built a lot bigger and it's
[2:24:22] going to be a lot bigger. And we
[2:24:25] have concerns about that. And
[2:24:26] we'd like to take the Council
[2:24:28] into consideration.
[2:24:30] >> You've spoken well, and
[2:24:31] you're not alone, unfortunately.
[2:24:39] For 17 -- have we finished the?
[2:24:43] >> Yes.
[2:24:44] >> So for 17 point 7 to 17
[2:24:46] point, 13 do I have a mover?
[2:24:49] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[2:24:51] >> And seconder?
[2:24:52] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[2:24:53] four.
[2:24:54] >> All in favour?
[2:24:56] >> Thank you.
[2:25:00] >> 18.1, Approve the 2024
[2:25:02] Municipal Action Plan for the
[2:25:03] social and professional
[2:25:04] integration for persons with
[2:25:07] disability; and Authorize the
[2:25:08] 2024 objectives of the
[2:25:09] Accessibility Committee in order
[2:25:10] to submit it to the Office des
[2:25:11] personnes handicapees du Quebec.
[2:25:13] Quand tu dirais que l'un
[2:25:14] Paul Bissonnette,
[2:25:15] The municipal action plan for
[2:25:16] the social and professional
[2:25:17] integration of persons with
[2:25:18] disabilities 2024 supports the
[2:25:20] City of Pointe-Claire strategic
[2:25:21] -- while meeting the cities
[2:25:22] obligations to the office of
[2:25:24] handicapped persons of Québec.
[2:25:25] The implementation of the
[2:25:26] municipal action plan for the
[2:25:28] social and vocational -- with
[2:25:30] persons with disability enables
[2:25:32] the continuous improvement of
[2:25:34] our service for all residents
[2:25:37] benefit. Do I have a mover?
[2:25:45] >> Seconder?
[2:25:46] >> Paul Bissonnette, district
[2:25:48] to.
[2:25:49] >> All in favour?
[2:25:50] - Merci. 18.2 Approuver un
[2:25:51] accord de subvention dans le
[2:25:52] cadre du programme Le Canada en
[2:25:54] fête à intervenir avec Sa
[2:25:55] Majesté le Roi du chef du Canada
[2:25:56] représenté par le ministre du
[2:25:58] Patrimoine canadien. La Ville de
[2:26:02] Pointe-Claire doit demander
[2:26:03] l'accord du ministère des
[2:26:04] Affaires municipales et de
[2:26:06] l'habitation, il y a une
[2:26:07] résolution du conseil municipal
[2:26:08] approuve à l'entente de
[2:26:09] subventions et demandant au
[2:26:11] gouvernement du Québec
[2:26:12] l'autorisation de conclure
[2:26:13] l'entente avec le gouvernement
[2:26:14] du Canada.
[2:26:16] >> 18.3 Authorize the donation
[2:26:17] of a Midmark medical examination
[2:26:18] bed, model Ritter 204, as well
[2:26:20] as two boxes of paper on rolls
[2:26:22] to the Lakeshore General
[2:26:23] Hospital.
[2:26:26] >> The new family medicine plan
[2:26:27] it currently under construction
[2:26:29] accepts this donation and will
[2:26:30] be able to give a second life to
[2:26:32] the -- and share with the
[2:26:33] community of Pointe-Claire and
[2:26:34] West Island.
[2:26:35] >> So for 18.2 and 18.3,
[2:26:38] including the two boxes of
[2:26:40] paper, do I have a mover?
[2:26:44] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:26:45] district three.
[2:26:46] >> And seconder?
[2:26:47] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:26:48] >> All in favour?
[2:26:51] >> Closure.
[2:26:52] Merci. >> Foreclosure, do I have
[2:26:54] a mover?
[2:26:56] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[2:26:58] four.
[2:26:59] >> And seconder?
[2:27:00] >> Cynthia Homan.
[2:27:01] >> If think you everybody. Merci
[2:27:02] tout le monde. We didn't have
[2:27:04] air conditioning in here, so
[2:27:06] thanks for hanging in there.
[2:27:07] Merci beaucoup.