[0:50] >> There we go, thanks Paul.
[0:53] - Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs
[0:55] et bienvenue à cette séance du
[0:57] conseil du 2 juillet 2024. Good
[0:59] evening, ladies and gentlemen,
[1:00] and welcome to our July 2nd
[1:01] council meeting.
[1:04] J'espère que vous avez profité
[1:06] des festivités de la fête
[1:08] nationale et de la fête du
[1:10] Canada ce sont des moments
[1:12] formidables a passé en famille
[1:15] et entre amis. I think we did a
[1:16] splendid job at both.
[1:18] We got extremely lucky with the
[1:20] weather on Saint-Jean baptized
[1:21] and I thank the staff for their
[1:23] call on that one. We didn't go a
[1:24] day early, we rolled the dice
[1:27] and one weatherwise, so I was
[1:29] very pleased with that one and I
[1:30] thought yesterday went really
[1:32] well. I especially enjoyed the
[1:34] fireworks. I thought they were
[1:35] really good this time.
[1:39] J'aimerais profiter de
[1:41] l'occasion pour apporter
[1:42] quelques prévisions quant à
[1:45] l'importance des règlements que
[1:46] nous avons adoptée à la dernière
[1:48] séance du conseil. L'eau est une
[1:52] ressource naturelle qui est
[1:53] encadrée par les lois. Il est
[1:57] temps que l'on se préoccupe de
[2:00] son utilisation. Federal and
[2:02] provincial governments have
[2:03] taken responsible actions to
[2:04] ensure its governance. The
[2:10] Canada water agency has created
[2:12] to strengthen the freshwater
[2:14] action plan and Québec has
[2:16] adopted a national water policy
[2:17] in 2002, which the Ministry of
[2:19] the Environment replaced with
[2:20] the Québec water strategy in 20
[2:23] 18 to 2030. At the launch of
[2:26] this new strategy, former
[2:28] Premier Philippe Couillard said,
[2:30] we are taking action to prevent
[2:31] water related risks while
[2:33] building on its economic
[2:35] potential. We are reaffirming
[2:36] the central rule that water
[2:38] plays in our lives and we're
[2:40] giving ourselves the direction
[2:42] and objectives we need to
[2:43] continue guaranteeing its
[2:47] sustainability. It is in this
[2:50] legislative context that
[2:52] Pointe-Claire is following in
[2:53] the footsteps of many cities and
[2:54] municipalities that have adopted
[2:55] a policy on the use of drinking
[2:59] water. The goal is to avoid
[3:01] waste and to ensure the
[3:03] sustainability of this important
[3:04] resource for the next
[3:06] generations. Refraining from
[3:07] adopting this policy would not
[3:09] only deprive us of subsidies for
[3:11] some of our major infrastructure
[3:12] work, it would also postpone
[3:15] acknowledging the importance of
[3:17] this natural resource.
[3:25] Toutefois, bien que je pense que
[3:27] nous partageons tous l'objectif
[3:30] d'en faire plus pour conserver
[3:33] l'eau, je tiens à préciser que
[3:35] je suis d'accord avec certaines
[3:37] des questions soulevées par le
[3:39] conseiller Cousineau et
[3:41] Bissonnette. Ma principale
[3:43] préoccupation est de m'assurer
[3:44] que les citoyens sont entendus
[3:47] sur les changements qui
[3:49] affectent leur vie quotidienne.
[3:53] Nous disposons maintenant d'une
[3:55] période de grâce de plusieurs
[3:57] mois avant que les changements
[3:59] entrent en vigueur. Bien que je
[4:02] ne puisse pas parler au nom du
[4:05] conseil, j'ai l'intention
[4:07] d'assister aux séances
[4:08] d'information publique sur le
[4:10] règlement et de les considérer
[4:12] comme des réunions de
[4:14] consultations publiques. Je suis
[4:16] très ouvert aux commentaires des
[4:18] citoyens. While I believe we all
[4:24] share the goal of wanting to do
[4:26] more to conserve water, I want
[4:28] to make clear that I agreed with
[4:29] some of the issues raised by
[4:31] councillors Cousineau and
[4:32] Bissonnette last time. My main
[4:34] concern is making sure that
[4:35] citizens are heard on changes
[4:36] that will affect their daily
[4:38] lives. We now have a grace
[4:39] period of several months before
[4:41] the changes take effect. While I
[4:44] cannot speak for Council, I plan
[4:45] to attend the public information
[4:46] sessions on the bylaw and treat
[4:48] them as public consultation
[4:50] meetings. I will be very open to
[4:52] input from citizens. Now, I was
[4:55] part of the Montréal, the Agglo
[5:00] consultation process on water
[5:03] conservation. I believe in it
[5:05] extremely strongly. And I think
[5:06] it is the future we have to take
[5:08] -- be responsible. However,
[5:10] there were a couple of points
[5:11] that Paul pointed out there were
[5:13] sections where I thought it was
[5:14] a little draconian in its
[5:16] implementation. And it concerned
[5:17] me a little, so I think we have
[5:18] time to maybe give our own
[5:20] little Pointe-Claire spin on it
[5:22] and see where we go from there.
[5:29] Nous avons annoncé
[5:32] l'implantation de bornes
[5:34] électriques. Ceci est un pas de
[5:37] plus vers la transition
[5:39] énergétique grâce à
[5:41] l'installation de 49 bornes de
[5:43] recharge électrique dans cette
[5:45] aire du stationnement municipal.
[5:48] Bâtiment des loisirs, 94 avenue
[5:51] (inaudible)
[5:52] , Bibliothèque centrale, sans
[5:56] avenue
[5:57] (inaudible)
[5:58] , hôtel de ville, dans sa 51
[6:01] boulevard Saint-Jean, 50 avenue
[6:05] Thera quota, 246 chemins du lac,
[6:11] le centre aquatique, le centre
[6:17] sportif sur le boulevard
[6:19] Brunswick. Ces installations se
[6:22] poursuivent jusqu'à la fin du
[6:23] mois de septembre. Ces bombes
[6:29] vient appuyer l'utilisation de
[6:31] véhicules électriques dans notre
[6:33] communauté. Je vous rappelle que
[6:34] les subventions du gouvernement
[6:36] fédéral et provincial sont
[6:37] toujours en vigueur cette année.
[6:39] Le montant maximum est de 12000
[6:42] dollars pour les personnes qui
[6:43] pensent acheter un véhicule
[6:46] électrique. Elle y a aussi un
[6:48] programme de subventions du
[6:49] gouvernement du Québec pour
[6:52] l'achat et la restauration de
[6:54] bornes à votre résidence. Vous
[6:56] pouvez trouver toutes les
[6:58] informations sur le sud du
[6:59] gouvernement du Québec. The
[7:01] renewable energy initiative or
[7:03] certificate, excuse me,
[7:04] renewable energy certificate. I
[7:05] would like to talk about
[7:06] something that's made me very
[7:08] proud. The City of Pointe-Claire
[7:09] is continuing to reduce its
[7:10] ecological footprint and
[7:12] accelerate its commitment to a
[7:13] clean energy transition in
[7:15] environmental protection. In
[7:18] 2023, electricity consumption,
[7:22] for all municipal
[7:23] infrastructures, -- 8140
[7:26] megawatts per hour. Was supplied
[7:28] entirely by renewable energy
[7:30] sources. This means that every
[7:32] appliance switched on, every
[7:33] street light and every municipal
[7:35] building powered in
[7:36] Pointe-Claire contributed to a
[7:37] cleaner, more sustainable future
[7:39] for generations to come. With
[7:42] this environmental initiative,
[7:44] Pointe-Claire has become the
[7:45] first municipality to prove, by
[7:47] obtaining renewable energy
[7:49] certificates, that the energy it
[7:51] consumes comes from 100%
[7:53] renewable sources. Lead
[7:56] conversion. De plus, avec la
[8:00] conversion de 2968 luminaires,
[8:07] nous avons une dissimulation de
[8:10] la consommation électrique de
[8:18] 896 741 kilowattheure heures en
[8:20] 1 an ceci permet de diminuer la
[8:23] charge électrique sur la charge
[8:26] d'Hydro-Québec, qui est
[8:29] l'équivalent d'environ 40
[8:31] maisons unifamiliales chaque
[8:36] année. Nous avons reçu sur le
[8:37] rapport de conciliation
[8:39] d'économie d'énergie pour le
[8:40] projet de la conversion
[8:44] d'éclairage routier au DEL par
[8:47] la compagnie Énergir. Selon les
[8:49] résultats du projet, nous avons
[8:52] réalisé des économies de coûts
[8:57] d'énergie du projet de ça 1
[9:08] million... de 101 millions
[9:09] dollars. I will try that again.
[9:13] (inaudible)
[9:14] We will continue our efforts to
[9:15] make Pointe-Claire a model of
[9:17] environmental sustainability and
[9:19] resilience. Every action counts
[9:20] and together, we can make great
[9:22] things happen to protect the
[9:24] environment and before I go on,
[9:25] I forgot that we should do the
[9:28] Councillors reports. I will
[9:29] start with Councillor Cowan.
[9:37] It's on the side.
[9:42] >> Well first of all, I would
[9:44] like to reiterate what the mayor
[9:46] said about the Canada Day
[9:49] celebrations. Like, I've been a
[9:50] resident of Pointe-Claire for 30
[9:52] years and they were by far the
[9:53] best I have ever seen. I think
[9:55] we have a reputation throughout
[9:57] the island now, or at least the
[9:59] West Island, and there was a lot
[10:01] of people that were
[10:03] concentrating in for the
[10:04] fireworks, so I think it's
[10:05] showing that we're doing
[10:06] something fantastic and kudos to
[10:08] the staff that put it all
[10:10] together. It was outstanding.
[10:12] Then one other comment about
[10:15] district eight. It looks like
[10:17] that bicycle path through
[10:19] horizon woods, while, looks like
[10:20] next week, it starts. But again,
[10:23] that's the City of Montréal
[10:24] that's doing it, so we can only
[10:27] pray that it will actually start
[10:29] on schedule. I'm told July 10th,
[10:31] so I will be watching. Thank
[10:34] you.
[10:35] >> Councillor Cousineau?
[10:38] - Monsieur Cousineau?
[10:40] - Rien de spécial, sauf que
[10:43] monsieur Dupont n'est pas là. Je
[10:44] voulais m'excuser, quand il m'a
[10:46] posé la question à la dernière
[10:49] assemblée, je ne me rappelais
[10:50] pas du meeting, mais il avait
[10:52] raison. Je me suis rappelé du
[10:55] meeting et je me suis rappelé de
[10:56] la conversation. Je lui ai parlé
[10:59] et je lui ai juste dit que je
[11:01] m'excuserais ce soir. Merci. >>
[11:05] Councillor Stainforth?
[11:11] >> I would just like to thank
[11:12] all of my residents who came out
[11:14] to meet with me at my meet and
[11:16] greet. Wonderful exchanges, your
[11:19] concerns have been brought to
[11:20] the city and I look forward to
[11:22] having more fruitful exchanges
[11:24] in the future.
[11:27] Merci aux résidents qui sont
[11:29] venus me rencontrer, j'avais
[11:30] deux rencontres.
[11:32] Malheureusement, la troisième a
[11:33] été annulée dû à certaines
[11:35] circonstances, mais on a on... a
[11:37] eu de superbes échanges et j'ai
[11:38] hâte au prochain réunion. Merci.
[11:42] >> Councillor Bissonnette?
[11:45] - Bonsoir, j'aimerais juste
[11:47] remercier l'administration pour
[11:48] les deux événements: la
[11:50] Saint-Jean-Baptiste c'est la
[11:51] fête du Canada. >> A lot of work
[11:53] went into that. A lot of
[11:54] planning went into it and I
[11:56] appreciate it very much, thank
[11:57] you very much.
[11:59] Je n'ai pas d'autre chose de
[12:01] spécial, merci. >> Councillor
[12:02] Homan?
[12:03] >> Good evening, everyone. I
[12:04] have to say the same thing. It
[12:06] was one of our better candidate
[12:08] days. I don't remember having so
[12:09] many people show up as they did
[12:12] yesterday. It was phenomenal and
[12:14] so many young families to, lots
[12:16] of little ones, so that was
[12:17] great. Fireworks were great and
[12:20] Saint-Jean baptized was
[12:22] wonderful. The other thing I
[12:23] might suggest is for next year,
[12:25] if anyone has the time, one of
[12:27] the things that we do in
[12:29] Pointe-Claire were very
[12:31] fortunate, we have the Canadian
[12:32] citizenship ceremony which, for
[12:34] me, excuse me, is one of the
[12:35] most interesting things and it's
[12:38] wonderful to see new Canadians
[12:40] taking the oath and singing the
[12:42] national anthem. So, it's
[12:44] usually done around 2:00 on the
[12:46] afternoon of Canada Day at
[12:47] Stewart Hall, so next year if
[12:49] you're not doing anything else,
[12:50] I invite you to come and partake
[12:53] in that because it's just a
[12:54] wonderful, wonderful event. Let
[12:56] me think, what else? The other
[12:58] thing is our project of
[13:01] reconstruction for Monterrey and
[13:02] mill haven is going well. It's
[13:04] on target and so far, so good.
[13:08] It should be finished by the end
[13:09] of August, from what I heard
[13:11] from the engineering the other
[13:13] day. So, that is about it. I
[13:15] wish you all a wonderful few
[13:17] weeks and summer holidays, and
[13:19] hope you enjoy your time with
[13:21] your family and friends, thank
[13:22] you.
[13:23] >> Councillor Tremblay?
[13:25] >> Yeah, thank you, Mister
[13:26] Mayor. Welcome, everybody, to
[13:28] the session tonight. So, I don't
[13:30] have too much to add on top of
[13:31] what everyone else has said. I
[13:32] do participate in the Canada Day
[13:35] and Saint-Jean baptized holidays
[13:37] and they were absolutely
[13:38] fantastic. We were very lucky
[13:40] with the weather. Juste pour
[13:42] dire que je suis en train de
[13:44] planifier, également, des
[13:45] rencontres citoyennes. Ça va
[13:48] venir soit au mois d'août ou au
[13:49] mois de septembre. So, I will
[13:51] also be planning citizen
[13:53] meetings that are coming up in
[13:54] either August or September. So,
[13:57] looking forward to that. Enjoy
[13:58] the meeting tonight, thank you.
[14:01] >> Councillor Thorstad-Cullen?
[14:03] You good? Okay, Councillor
[14:05] Stork?
[14:06] >> Just to reiterate about the
[14:07] Canada Day and St. John
[14:08] baptized.
[14:09] - Bonsoir à tous. I know walking
[14:13] around, some things and life are
[14:14] so simple. Like, the thing that
[14:16] really impressed me is I can
[14:18] take a pile of sand, throw it in
[14:20] a corner, and kids just lose
[14:22] their minds. The amount of
[14:24] camaraderie, there was no
[14:25] fighting. Every kid was within
[14:26] an inch of each other it was,
[14:28] you know, sometimes things are
[14:29] very, very simple and it's just
[14:34] congratulations in reference to
[14:35] north of you, I mean, everything
[14:36] is moving along. Winthrop was
[14:38] started, as we know, big we
[14:40] construction of Winthrop that
[14:42] square with the bike path. Got
[14:44] some phone calls and reference
[14:45] to trucks parking but trying to
[14:47] mitigate that as best as
[14:48] possible. The pickleball, tennis
[14:50] court at Northview is delayed a
[14:52] bit, but it is still on schedule
[14:54] to finish on September 15th. The
[14:59] they paved in front of the
[15:00] Shelley, it was pretty bumpy so
[15:01] they took care of that, so
[15:02] they're actually, you know,
[15:03] everything is being addressed
[15:04] outside of that, no news on the
[15:08] see us at this point that I'm
[15:10] aware of. Outside of that, thank
[15:11] you, Mayor, Mister Mayor, and
[15:14] let's give --
[15:17] - O.K., On peut commencer. 1.1
[15:22] Adoption de l'ordre du jour.
[15:23] C'est le retrait du mois
[15:32] 17.2, ce sera d'autoriser et
[15:34] d'approuver une demande pour
[15:36] désigner un CELI brun. >> 1.1,
[15:39] adoption of the agenda with two
[15:40] changes. The withdrawal of item
[15:43] 17.2 and the addition of an item
[15:47] as 19.1 under varia section.
[15:51] Authorized and approved in
[15:53] application to designate an
[15:58] efficient.
[16:00] >> 3.1, to approve the minutes
[16:02] of the regular meeting of June,
[16:04] yes?
[16:05] >> Okay, sorry, sorry, Daniel.
[16:07] >> To approve the minutes of the
[16:08] regular meeting of June 4th,
[16:11] 2024.
[16:13] >> For 1.1 and 3.1, do I have a
[16:15] mover?
[16:16] >> Claude Cousineau, district
[16:18] one.
[16:19] >> And a seconder?
[16:20] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[16:21] >> All in favour?
[16:25] >> So, question period.
[16:28] - Ce soir, pour la période des
[16:30] questions, vous avez été
[16:33] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous
[16:34] inscrire à la période des
[16:36] questions. L'intention de cette
[16:39] démarche est d'abord de
[16:40] permettre aux personnes de
[16:42] demeurer assise jusqu'à l'appel
[16:44] de leur nom et d'accorder la
[16:46] priorité aux résidentes et aux
[16:48] résidents de Pointe-Claire. Nos
[16:51] garderont 90 minutes pour la
[16:53] période de questions. Une
[16:55] période à la fois au micro. Nous
[16:57] vous remercions d'attendre qu'un
[17:00] citoyen ait terminé de poser sa
[17:02] question et que vous soyez
[17:03] appelés avant de vous lever pour
[17:06] venir poser votre question. Les
[17:09] non-résidents présents pourront
[17:11] poser leurs questions par la
[17:12] suite si le temps n'est pas
[17:14] écouler. For question period
[17:16] tonight, during question period,
[17:17] you were greeted at the entrance
[17:18] to register for it. The goal of
[17:20] this approach is to allow people
[17:21] to remain seated until their
[17:23] name is called and give priority
[17:24] to Pointe-Claire residents. We
[17:26] shall stick to the 90 minute
[17:28] time limit for question period.
[17:30] One person at a time at the
[17:33] microphone, thank you for
[17:34] waiting for a citizen to finish
[17:36] asking their question to be
[17:37] called before you get up to ask
[17:39] yours. Nonresidents present will
[17:41] be able to ask questions
[17:42] afterwards, if there is still
[17:44] time. So, to start, Antonio
[17:49] Carlos chia. I have a G. Je
[17:59] m'excuse. Oui, Monsieur! Good
[18:02] question.
[18:08] >> Hello, I don't think it's on.
[18:09] >> It is, it works.
[18:11] >> Okay, good evening, everyone.
[18:13] Thank you for giving me the
[18:15] chance of asking a question. I
[18:17] would like to ask about item
[18:21] 16.1. The multi use path between
[18:28] Alston and stove you. That I'm
[18:32] told, according to information I
[18:36] heard, that it's gonna pass just
[18:38] behind my house. How many
[18:43] questions can I ask? I'm not
[18:44] familiar with the protocol here.
[18:46] >> Preamble of one question and
[18:49] then one follow-up after the
[18:51] first question.
[18:53] >> So, my first question is,
[18:57] what are the authorized and the
[18:59] non authorize uses of this multi
[19:03] use path?
[19:05] >> It will be a linear park a
[19:07] form of a linear park with
[19:09] primarily a bike path.
[19:13] >> So, I cannot ride a
[19:16] motorcycle through this path?
[19:18] >> No.
[19:21] >> And is it open 24 hours?
[19:25] >> That is a good question. I
[19:27] don't think so. Madame Verdun,
[19:28] will be open 24 hours?
[19:31] >> Yes, the bike path, so
[19:35] basically, you know, people can
[19:36] use it whenever they want. But
[19:38] for sure, they have to respect,
[19:40] you know, all citizens have to
[19:42] respect the bylaw that after
[19:45] 11:00, they cannot make, you
[19:46] know, any noise.
[19:48] >> I'm sorry, I didn't hear your
[19:50] answer properly, can you repeat
[19:52] it?
[19:53] >> Okay, it's a bike path but
[19:54] for sure, we don't have, you
[19:56] know, any hours that is closed
[19:58] or open. It's always open to
[20:00] people. But after some certain
[20:02] hours, people have to respect
[20:05] the noise. For example, 11:00,
[20:08] they're not supposed to make
[20:10] noise.
[20:11] >> Okay and how do you enforce
[20:15] --
[20:16] >> We're now at number three but
[20:17] that is okay, sir, keep going.
[20:19] >> How do you enforce what is
[20:22] authorized and what is not? For
[20:24] instance, if people start to
[20:26] congregate there because I'm
[20:28] concerned with the safety to our
[20:32] houses, the noise, even the lack
[20:34] of privacy and things like that.
[20:37] >> Well, there will be fencing
[20:39] and we do have public security,
[20:41] so like anywhere in the city, it
[20:44] will be taken care of and looked
[20:46] after.
[20:48] >> -- I'm calling the --
[20:50] >> Sure, you could call but, I
[20:52] mean, it'll be part, I'm sure,
[20:54] of regular events like anywhere
[20:55] else in the city.
[20:59] >> Okay, that's all my time.
[21:02] >> Thanks.
[21:05] >> Nadine Pereira.
[21:13] >> Hello? I am here on behalf of
[21:17] -- rosy Illinois. I think
[21:19] everyone is aware that we try to
[21:22] request change, a zone change
[21:24] for six Avenue due golf. We feel
[21:27] like we would like to ask you to
[21:30] deliberate and reconsider the
[21:33] possibility of the zone change.
[21:35] We feel that we would fit in
[21:37] well there, since the house is
[21:39] adjacent to three other
[21:42] businesses. And that if we had
[21:43] the chance to explain to the
[21:47] neighbours what our hours are
[21:48] and how we worked, that they
[21:49] could see that it would not be
[21:50] that disruptive. Our ours are
[21:52] from 11 to 3:30, our guests are
[21:55] gone by 3:30. We are not a
[21:57] restaurant that has, like, high
[21:59] volume, we did request 40 seats
[22:01] but that big is because 24 wins
[22:03] for afternoon tea. We have
[22:05] services at 11 and 1:30, so the
[22:07] traffic is really specific to
[22:09] those times and again, everyone
[22:11] is gone by 3:30. We're not a
[22:13] restaurant that has a huge
[22:14] kitchen. We use residential
[22:16] equipment. We don't have fryers,
[22:17] it's not, like, it's not the
[22:19] type of place where we would
[22:21] have disruptive clients. Our
[22:22] clients are between the ages of
[22:23] 40 and 105. They are quiet, they
[22:27] are not here to party, they are
[22:28] really getting together with
[22:29] friends to just have, like, I
[22:31] get together and we just feel
[22:34] like this house, because of the
[22:36] way it is, the way it's built,
[22:38] it has no windows on one side of
[22:40] the wall because it is adjacent
[22:42] to the other property at eight
[22:44] golf. It has no yard, it has no
[22:47] space for, like, a person to
[22:50] want to use it as residential.
[22:51] The house is so odd that the
[22:54] only fit could be a commercial
[22:57] space and our commercial space
[22:59] would actually be less
[23:01] disruptive than if it was a
[23:02] store where customers were
[23:03] coming and going, and we just
[23:07] kind of hoped that you guys
[23:08] would be able to consider our
[23:12] usage of the space as
[23:14] commercial, as being different
[23:16] than any other type of business
[23:18] that would come in. We also, I
[23:23] think, if the residents also
[23:25] understood, we made a mistake of
[23:26] not talking to the residents
[23:27] before to explain the project
[23:29] but if they understood that the
[23:31] usage would be allotted to our
[23:34] business, with our business
[23:36] hours, it would not be able,
[23:37] another restaurant would be able
[23:38] to come in and then start having
[23:40] hours until midnight. They would
[23:41] have to go through the same
[23:42] process of being approved. Maybe
[23:43] they could support us, so what
[23:46] we are requesting is a
[23:48] deliberation of reconsidering us
[23:50] using the space to give us the
[23:53] chance to post it and be able to
[23:55] speak with the neighbours and
[23:57] see if they could support us as
[23:59] well, after doing that. So,
[24:04] that's it.
[24:05] >> That's the preamble, is there
[24:06] a question?
[24:07] >> Yeah, the question is please
[24:09] deliberate. Can you deliberate
[24:10] or consider, for the voting of
[24:13] the --
[24:14] >> There has been considerable
[24:16] deliberation, I think, to come
[24:17] to the conclusion that has been
[24:19] arrived at. It was went through
[24:23] pack and then we did speak to it
[24:24] at Council as well, so there has
[24:26] been considerable deliberation.
[24:28] >> Sorry, I think our plea is
[24:30] more, like, can we let it go to
[24:31] the next step so that the
[24:33] neighbours can, like, we can get
[24:34] a consensus from the neighbours
[24:36] together? Like, with them?
[24:38] >> Well, from what I understand,
[24:39] the deliberation has been made.
[24:42] What I, from what I know of the
[24:44] property, it has been
[24:45] residential for a long period of
[24:47] time and has been successfully
[24:49] residential for a long period of
[24:51] time. I think there is concerns
[24:53] of parking in the neighbourhood.
[24:55] Valid ones and from what I
[24:57] understand, some of the parking
[24:59] issues that are to be avoided in
[25:02] downtown, in the village centre,
[25:03] has been moved already to the
[25:04] existing commercial property.
[25:06] There's already an overflow of
[25:08] parking being moved to the
[25:09] Westmount floors property, which
[25:11] would be the one of the parking
[25:13] solutions there. I also know
[25:15] that the refinishing shop has
[25:19] been sold and it's probably
[25:21] going to be a commercial
[25:23] exercise as well. There is a
[25:24] parking issue already in the
[25:27] neighbourhood, so I think this
[25:28] had some bearing on the
[25:30] deliberations. The main concern
[25:31] is parking. It is employees or
[25:33] anything. From what I
[25:35] understand, and I think 40 seats
[25:37] was quite overwhelming for the
[25:38] very quiet area, and what's
[25:41] already going, there are no
[25:43] trees and a dentist and so, I
[25:45] don't think the fit was right,
[25:47] from what I understood. With the
[25:49] conversations. But, you know,
[25:51] that was a majority decision.
[25:52] >> Okay so I guess the last
[25:54] thing, just to say, is that this
[25:55] house has been on the market for
[25:56] a long time. They are not able
[25:58] to sell it. There's already,
[25:59] like, three other houses on the
[26:01] street that are not, like,
[26:02] getting sold. I'm not sure why
[26:03] one of them is been abandoned
[26:05] for since 2022. This one has
[26:07] been on the market since 2023.
[26:08] It's just not fitting with
[26:10] residents because of the way it
[26:11] is. There is no land, like,
[26:12] there's absolutely no land, no
[26:14] yard. It's just like a little
[26:16] odd house. Like, no bedrooms
[26:18] with no windows. Like, a regular
[26:21] person that wants to buy it as a
[26:22] residence, it won't work. I
[26:23] don't think it would work. Like,
[26:25] that's my opinion and I think
[26:26] that the only thing that would
[26:28] fit in this house is something
[26:29] commercial because only a
[26:30] commercial place would not care
[26:31] if there is no windows and a
[26:33] room. That's what I can say
[26:38] about that. Like, if it's not
[26:39] us, if the House can be torn
[26:40] down because it's historic, I
[26:42] think, there's not really much
[26:45] of a match for that building.
[26:47] And we would keep the integrity
[26:48] of the building. We're not
[26:49] changing anything of the facade,
[26:51] we're not using the terrasse,
[26:52] not using the rooftop terrasse
[26:53] or anything. It's really four
[26:55] seats and again, like, this
[26:56] evening, I know it's
[26:57] overwhelming but it's really 24
[26:59] seats, five days a week, and
[27:01] twice a week for two hour period
[27:02] where it could possibly be 40
[27:05] seats. If it gets booked.
[27:08] >> Why houses sell and don't
[27:09] sell is a mystery to me. My
[27:12] former house in Victoria took a
[27:13] very long time. Took a couple
[27:14] years to sell but sold and I
[27:17] suspect that will be the case
[27:18] with this one as well. It was a
[27:20] successful residential property
[27:21] for the extended period of time,
[27:23] so I'm not sure that there won't
[27:26] be a buyer forward at some point
[27:27] in time for residentially, so
[27:29] I'm not convinced of that
[27:31] argument. But as for
[27:35] reconsidering, I don't think so.
[27:36] But we can leave that up to
[27:38] Council, but I suspect that the
[27:40] decision is the decision that's
[27:42] been rendered.
[27:43] >> Thank you.
[27:44] >> Sorry about that. When
[27:49] >> Sandra Mackay.
[27:55] >> Good evening. Well, as you
[27:58] know, we are in a climate
[28:00] emergency and it's more
[28:01] important than ever to protect
[28:04] CO2 absorbing trees and
[28:06] biodiversity. There have been
[28:08] multiple environmental studies,
[28:10] as many of you already know,
[28:12] that prove that Fairview forest
[28:14] is ecologically sensitive. So,
[28:17] given this, and with the --
[28:20] representing future generations,
[28:22] I would like to ask Council,
[28:24] would Council please consider
[28:27] using law 39, the Expropriations
[28:30] law, to expropriate the land
[28:33] that's known as Fairview forest?
[28:34] Thank you.
[28:36] >> It's a good question and it
[28:37] is one that we are considering.
[28:39] I mean, Bill 39, we are going to
[28:41] be exploring as a Council, as to
[28:43] what's possibilities are and
[28:44] what we legally can do. Moving
[28:48] forward. I've already spoken,
[28:50] Madame Verdun, we are getting
[28:53] briefed on Bill 39 and its
[28:55] potential applications in the
[28:57] near future, I believe?
[28:58] >> Eventually, something that
[29:00] would be brought up to the
[29:01] council but not exclusive to
[29:03] Fairview forest. But we
[29:05] understand, you know, the law,
[29:07] you know? And all, you know, the
[29:09] things that we can do under that
[29:12] specific law that exists now.
[29:14] >> It has had some interesting
[29:16] precedent set already, as we
[29:17] read in the last couple weeks.
[29:19] So, it's definitely something to
[29:20] be considered.
[29:21] >> That's excellent news, thank
[29:23] you.
[29:24] >> Thank you. André Climate? Oh
[29:30] sorry, yeah, thank you. Randy
[29:32] got a? Sorry, Randy.
[29:35] >> No problem, Mister Mayor.
[29:37] Last time I was here, I
[29:38] mentioned I have four daughters.
[29:40] My eldest is 21, she lives in
[29:42] the in Dorval because she can't
[29:43] afford an apartment. My three
[29:45] others are 13, 11, and nine. My
[29:48] question is, what is
[29:50] Pointe-Claire's plan for them
[29:51] when they turn 18 to 21, like
[29:53] some of your children were, to
[29:55] be able to afford an apartment
[29:56] in Pointe-Claire?
[29:58] >> That's a very valid question.
[30:00] We have to be very selective and
[30:03] going forward and how we decide
[30:05] to replenish our building stock,
[30:07] and how we do build. In this
[30:10] city, so that we can actually
[30:11] allow people to afford and move
[30:14] here, and it's a real challenge
[30:16] because it's 20 to 25 minutes
[30:18] from downtown Montréal. It's
[30:20] highly sought after, it's along
[30:21] the water and it's getting
[30:23] gentrified as we speak,
[30:24] completely gentrified as we
[30:25] speak and it is an issue. The
[30:27] market is driving the pricing
[30:30] upwards, incredibly, and it is a
[30:32] real problem for anybody who's
[30:34] been raised, or whether they can
[30:36] actually live here, themselves,
[30:38] once they become adults, as my
[30:40] son -- son in Pierrefonds son
[30:42] and Kirkland and they're in
[30:43] their twenties. You know, so I
[30:45] hear you loud and clear. I -- a
[30:49] lot of decisions we made. Some
[30:50] of them, I mean, I think we have
[30:52] a news the duplex, triplex, the
[30:54] missing middle. We have a new
[30:55] semi detached, we haven't used
[30:57] town houses. We haven't built as
[30:59] much affordable housing stock as
[31:01] we should have even in just a
[31:03] residential development, I look
[31:04] at, you know, St. Louis and I
[31:06] look at other streets and I
[31:07] think, boy, semi detached
[31:08] would've worked really nicely.
[31:09] Two houses instead of one.
[31:12] There's all kinds of things we
[31:13] can do, still. Whether it will
[31:16] be affordable for today's youth,
[31:17] I mean, it may still be out of
[31:18] reach. I mean, semi detached and
[31:21] -- Andy G is so quite expensive,
[31:23] right? Or Westmount so but there
[31:26] are things we can do and one of
[31:27] the things I lament is that we
[31:29] allow very, very large houses to
[31:31] be built on the Post -- homes
[31:33] that are getting knocked down
[31:34] that can house only one family
[31:36] where those lives could be used,
[31:37] I think, more effectively. I
[31:39] think we can allow for more
[31:41] housing and we can start to
[31:43] change our ways of building
[31:45] going, forward. Duplexes and
[31:47] triplexes, multiplexes are the
[31:49] missing middle, is, for me, the
[31:53] preferable option without going
[31:54] 8 million miles wide. There are,
[31:56] you know, we can change or build
[31:58] environment and try to make it
[31:59] more affordable. Whether it will
[32:00] work or not, whether it's just
[32:01] too sought after in geography, I
[32:03] mean, Pointe-Claire is very
[32:04] sought after. Who knows? The
[32:06] market is very challenging thing
[32:08] and I've always been of the
[32:10] theory that if you want to make
[32:12] affordability, you've got to do
[32:13] something other than rely on the
[32:14] market. You have to rely on
[32:16] government. So, that's a long
[32:17] winded answer. I hope that
[32:19] helps.
[32:20] >> I'm hoping there's actually a
[32:22] plan coming out of that.
[32:23] >> Well, they're building
[32:25] stopped going forward. Our urban
[32:26] plan and how we move forward,
[32:28] how we develop our city is the
[32:30] plan.
[32:32] >> Okay, just one other
[32:33] follow-up.
[32:34] >> One follow-up, absolutely.
[32:35] >> Last meeting, I asked your
[32:36] question regarding my ditch. You
[32:38] said you are going to follow up.
[32:40] >> Yeah.
[32:41] >> Have you come into --
[32:42] >> Well, the ditch is an issue
[32:43] because apparently, somebody has
[32:44] paved over the drainage or
[32:46] there's been a driveway built so
[32:48] that the ditch can drain as well
[32:49] as it should. We have parts of
[32:52] Pointe-Claire where those
[32:53] ditches actually function to
[32:54] dream properly, right? And it is
[32:56] an antiquated solution but we're
[32:58] getting to these areas one step
[32:59] at a time. But right now, it is
[33:01] a way of diminishing water
[33:04] runoff. However, if it pools to
[33:07] dangerous levels, as you pointed
[33:08] out, it is an issue and at some
[33:10] point, we have to find a
[33:12] solution. I understand in your
[33:13] particular circumstance, a
[33:15] driveway where it was built,
[33:17] something was built so that it
[33:18] can't drain properly. So, there
[33:19] may be a measure that can be
[33:23] taken. I'm not sure. Do you
[33:24] remember the conclusion of that
[33:26] conversation, Madame Verdun?
[33:28] >> Can you contact me tomorrow?
[33:30] I can look at that particular
[33:31] file, you know, with you.
[33:33] >> Sure, I don't know your
[33:35] contact information.
[33:37] >> I will send you maybe, you
[33:41] know, Lucy? Give you information
[33:42] to Danielle and I will contact
[33:44] you tomorrow about it.
[33:45] >> Perfect, thank you.
[33:48] >> Thank you, Mister garden. Mr.
[33:53] Clermont?
[34:04] - Bonjour. Je m'appelle André
[34:07] Clermont j'arbitre cela Rudolph
[34:08] à Pointe-Claire. J'aurais des
[34:10] questions pour l'article 17,12.
[34:13] Je viens d'avoir quelques
[34:15] réponses. Concernant le PPCMOI,
[34:21] pourriez-vous me donner un peu
[34:22] de détails?
[34:25] - L'opération le PPCMOI? Madame
[34:30] Verdon, le PPCMOI?
[34:32] - Votre question exactement?
[34:34] Est-ce que c'est des
[34:35] informations sur ce projet-là ou
[34:37] sur la procédure?
[34:38] - Sur le projet, mais qu'est-ce
[34:39] que ça veut dire en gros? De ce
[34:42] que j'ai compris tantôt, c'est
[34:44] un changement de zonage.
[34:46] - C'est un changement de zonage
[34:48] spécifique à un projet, donc ce
[34:50] n'est pas pour l'ensemble de la
[34:52] zone. C'est un zonage, on
[34:54] pourrait dire, pour un solo et
[34:56] un seul projet en particulier,
[34:58] mais ça suit à peu près la même
[35:00] procédure d'un changement de
[35:02] zonage. Éventuellement, si le
[35:04] Conseil décide d'y aller avant
[35:05] ce soir, parce que je ne veux
[35:06] pas me prononcer pour le
[35:08] conseil, ensuite, il y aurait un
[35:10] processus de référendaire qui
[35:12] serait mis en place par la
[35:13] Ville. Donc, il y aurait des
[35:15] avis publics, il y aurait un
[35:18] registre référendaire,
[35:20] éventuellement, qui pourrait
[35:21] mener à un référendum.
[35:22] - Merci. Juste pour vous dire
[35:26] que les résidents, la dame
[35:29] tantôt disait que ce n'est pas
[35:31] vendable pour une résidence, ce
[35:32] n'est pas bon. Les gens qui sont
[35:34] restés là, Eli sont restés
[35:36] depuis plus de 25 ans et ils
[35:37] étaient très heureux. En plus,
[35:40] j'ai su que les propriétaires,
[35:42] quelqu'un leur a offert de louer
[35:44] la maison et ils ont refusé.
[35:50] Résidentielle, ça fait au-dessus
[35:52] de 25 à qui il y a des gens qui
[35:55] habitent, et je crois fermement
[35:56] que ça doit rester comme ça et
[35:58] ça ne devrait pas être
[36:02] commercial. Je ne me répéterai
[36:04] pas, je vous ai dit ce que j'en
[36:06] pensais tantôt... l'autre jour.
[36:08] Je suis contre le projet. C'est
[36:10] ça, je suis contre pour
[36:12] plusieurs raisons, vous les
[36:13] connaissez. Merci.
[36:14] - Merci. >> Niki Fournier?
[36:18] Niki Fournier.
[36:25] >> Good evening. I'm here to
[36:27] talk about 575 Saint John. My
[36:31] favourite neighbour. I'm very
[36:34] familiar with minister Sonia
[36:38] Bélanger who's in charge of
[36:39] health and old folks homes. We
[36:43] communicate often and all I can
[36:44] get out of them is that there
[36:47] will be an information session
[36:50] at one point. And I've been
[36:52] trying, for two years, to
[36:54] convince them, we don't want an
[36:56] information session. We don't
[36:57] want to be told, this is a --
[37:00] this is what we're doing, take
[37:02] it, leave it, and that's it,
[37:03] that's all. I had the pleasure
[37:07] of having a few rats in my visit
[37:12] since they demolished things, so
[37:14] I went to the site and asked the
[37:15] guys that were working. I said,
[37:17] what are you doing? They said
[37:18] nothing, so I came to the city
[37:20] and it's led to the City, what
[37:21] are you doing about the vermin
[37:22] that are coming out of buildings
[37:23] that are torn down? Nothing.
[37:25] There's nothing we can do. So,
[37:28] with all that, I'm asking, and
[37:30] we have skunks, we have
[37:32] groundhogs, we have all the
[37:33] buildings that have been beside
[37:35] the man who are and whatever is
[37:36] happening on Hymus. I think it's
[37:38] time the city goes back to
[37:41] trying to capture all these poor
[37:43] creatures that have been moved.
[37:45] I was brought up on a farm, I
[37:47] love animals, but they belong in
[37:48] the bush. They don't belong in
[37:50] my yard. They don't belong in
[37:52] yours. They don't belong
[37:53] anywhere. I have a hair that's
[37:56] decided to feet, two feet from
[37:58] my steps, that I go by daily, to
[38:01] have a family there. I have a
[38:03] little groundhog that comes to
[38:04] my front door to say hello all
[38:06] the time. If I leave my garage
[38:08] open, he's in. If I leave my
[38:10] door open to the garden, they
[38:13] had a blast. They ate all my
[38:16] piece and all my charred and
[38:18] everything else that I had
[38:19] built. It's time for the City to
[38:21] capture these things and
[38:23] relocate them in the bush, where
[38:24] they belong. That's all I'm
[38:26] asking. It just happened this
[38:30] morning, Tara put something
[38:31] about a beautiful, little skunk
[38:32] on our street with three little
[38:34] babies behind everyone saying
[38:35] oh, cute. Oh, they're so cute,
[38:37] so wonderful. Are you serious?
[38:40] Have you seen what a skunk can
[38:42] do? I don't have a dog but the
[38:44] neighbours do. Yes, there
[38:46] helpful. Yes, they come and they
[38:48] eat the grubs in our gardens.
[38:49] But we don't need 25 of them on
[38:52] a property. Just saying. I have
[38:55] been asking for a contingency
[38:58] plan with all this construction
[38:59] happening around my place. I've
[39:01] asked the City, the city has
[39:03] said, we don't have one so I've
[39:05] asked, how do we establish a
[39:09] contingency plan with the City
[39:10] of Pointe-Claire so that if any
[39:13] damage is done to our property,
[39:15] I've been blessed by
[39:17] construction for the last five
[39:18] years that dust, the noise, the
[39:22] pollution, what can we do? How
[39:23] can we protect ourselves? There
[39:25] have been tests done on the site
[39:27] abound vibration. My house
[39:30] shook. There's been drilling
[39:31] done, my house shook. How will I
[39:33] protect myself? I was told, by
[39:36] Mr. Belvedere when he was mayor,
[39:38] take pictures and if anything
[39:39] happens, we will see what can
[39:40] happen. We
[39:44] [Laughter]
[39:45] Excuse me. I will catch my
[39:47] breath. We know what happened on
[39:50] Alston Street. The poor people
[39:51] and all the trouble they've had.
[39:53] City doesn't want to take
[39:55] responsibility, developer
[39:56] doesn't want to take
[39:57] responsibility, insurance does
[39:58] not want to take responsibility.
[40:01] We need a contingency plan in
[40:03] this city that will help us in
[40:05] case we have to do that. If
[40:10] fighting with -- like I've been
[40:11] doing all the last few years is
[40:12] what I would have to go through
[40:13] if my house is damaged by this
[40:15] building, it's not going to get
[40:18] done. But also, I will have to
[40:20] pay for it so please, can we set
[40:22] up a contingency plan? I know it
[40:24] doesn't exist if. Doesn't mean
[40:25] we can't have one. I would like
[40:27] one, please. So, to clarify
[40:31] contingency plan for animals,
[40:34] for the destruction of property?
[40:36] >> Destruction.
[40:37] >> Okay, so not animals?
[40:39] >> Well animals, I think the
[40:40] city, I'm asking the City to do
[40:42] something to catch these poor
[40:44] babies and take them to the
[40:46] country, where they belong.
[40:49] Because there is so much of it
[40:51] and people say, well, I don't
[40:52] have anything on mine. Of
[40:53] course, there is no construction
[40:54] around your place, for goodness
[40:56] sake! They're not disturbed.
[40:58] >> Do we have a contingency plan
[40:59] for animals? I mean, it's an
[41:01] interesting dilemma. I mean, I
[41:02] live near the golf course and I
[41:05] have the water sanitation plant
[41:08] behind me so I've had scouts and
[41:09] even foxes and stuff. When you
[41:11] worry about your domestic
[41:12] presence of two, right?
[41:13] >> Absolutely.
[41:14] >> But it is a dilemma of
[41:16] continued development, right? I
[41:17] mean, animals get moved. And
[41:20] with less and less green space,
[41:22] animals have to go somewhere and
[41:23] it is one of the realities of
[41:26] densification.
[41:28] >> So, can we do something?
[41:29] >> Who bears the brunt of that
[41:30] is a very good question. My
[41:33] advice to you is a strategy
[41:34] going forward is to perhaps vote
[41:37] electorally for less
[41:40] densification in your political
[41:41] choices and then you will have
[41:42] less of these problems because
[41:43] the more you build, the more
[41:45] this happens.
[41:46] >> Of course, are we going to
[41:47] stop building? Absolutely not.
[41:49] >> Nope.
[41:50] >> But I think we can do
[41:51] something for these animals and
[41:52] the contingency plan for the
[41:54] buildings, I think, is urgent
[41:56] because there are a lot of
[41:57] buildings happening everywhere.
[42:00] You know, like I went to
[42:02] sources. If you have the chance
[42:03] to go see the old folks home on
[42:07] sources, I've been asking for
[42:08] plans, I've been asking to see
[42:10] what will happen. It is
[42:13] atrocious what they have done to
[42:14] the neighbours on sources. We
[42:18] have to be careful and I know,
[42:20] the City always says, there's
[42:21] nothing we can do, it's the
[42:23] province. Carte blanche, they
[42:24] can do whatever. If we cannot be
[42:27] protected by our city, who can
[42:29] protect us?
[42:31] >> You're raising an interesting
[42:32] point and I think Councillor
[42:34] Stork can speak to this one as
[42:35] well. The entrance, how they
[42:39] route the traffic through that
[42:40] property is crucial to what
[42:42] happens to the neighbourhood and
[42:43] I think we're very much aware of
[42:45] that we. They're almost has to
[42:47] be an access in from Hymus,
[42:50] instead of rounding everything
[42:52] down, is it not -- or up even
[42:55] through May would. These are
[42:57] small residential streets and it
[42:59] is an issue so we don't know. As
[43:01] a city, we can look at that and
[43:03] try to do the best for the
[43:05] citizens living in that area, so
[43:06] they aren't overwhelmed by
[43:07] traffic. Especially May would. I
[43:09] mean, me what is a narrow
[43:10] street. Everybody starts --
[43:12] traffic it's rerouted up and
[43:13] down me would entirely, it will
[43:15] be a major issue. So, we have to
[43:18] be on that. I think we can do
[43:20] that, you are right. You know,
[43:22] this is a higher level of
[43:23] government that has decided to
[43:24] build and we can do our best, in
[43:27] some way, shape, or form to make
[43:28] sure that isn't too much traffic
[43:31] inconvenience. We can try and
[43:32] influence at that level, for
[43:33] sure. Councillor Stork, did you
[43:35] want to?
[43:36] >> Yeah thank you, Mister Mayor.
[43:38] I think all these issues will be
[43:41] addressed once we have more
[43:43] information. They will be
[43:44] required to do a traffic study
[43:45] which was discussed long hard
[43:46] with the options are, with
[43:48] engineering even, you know, way
[43:50] back when with the gas station.
[43:53] I think as much as I want to get
[43:54] on to it and address it, like,
[43:56] we will be having
[43:58] communications, town halls, we
[43:59] will discuss this. This will not
[44:01] go unnoticed. There will be hard
[44:03] discussions and we've talked to
[44:04] some citizens -- one way, there
[44:08] are myriad of options that we
[44:09] have to come together and come
[44:11] to some sort of conclusion
[44:12] because I don't think the
[44:13] project is going to stop. Like,
[44:15] they have their full rights,
[44:17] they're under the law, they're
[44:19] completely entitled to do what
[44:20] they want to do. I think we just
[44:21] have to do our best ability in
[44:23] Council to mitigate the
[44:24] situation and make the best of
[44:26] it. We just have to wait. I know
[44:27] it's hard to wait, but we just
[44:29] have to wait. Once we get the
[44:31] information, believe me, you
[44:32] know, we are going to pounce.
[44:35] But we just have to wait for
[44:36] that information. I think that
[44:37] is the hard part and they are
[44:39] tightlipped. You know, that's
[44:41] where we are right now. I would
[44:42] love to address the issues but
[44:44] it's just got to happen, you
[44:45] know, organically.
[44:47] >> Well, what I'm afraid of,
[44:48] they're talking about starting
[44:49] soon and once they start, how do
[44:51] we stop the machine from going?
[44:54] You know? This is how we need to
[44:57] be protected. So, this is, you
[45:01] know, I talked to them about the
[45:03] traffic and about the problems
[45:04] on May would and all these
[45:05] things and they said, well, when
[45:07] it comes to that, we will deal
[45:08] with that. That's not an answer.
[45:12] That's not an answer. So, we
[45:14] need to do something, as a city,
[45:16] to protect our citizens. We
[45:18] >> We are inquiring. We are
[45:20] inquiring.
[45:21] >> I know, it's frustrating,
[45:22] believe you me, believe you me.
[45:23] The number of emails --
[45:24] >> We are concerned as well.
[45:25] >> The discussions I've had with
[45:27] them is overwhelming. Second
[45:30] thing, if I may, this was all
[45:31] one.
[45:32] >> One more.
[45:33] >> Just a quick one.
[45:34] >> Okay.
[45:35] >> On 16 three we, I'm happy to
[45:41] see that there is going to be a
[45:43] pedestrian and bike path built
[45:46] over the highway but I would
[45:48] hope that the highway or, sorry,
[45:50] Saint John, will be fixed before
[45:53] all that is done. Don't do it
[45:54] the other way around, please.
[45:57] There is no mention that
[45:59] Saint-Jean will be repaved and
[46:00] the bridge will be re-done
[46:02] before all this is done. Can you
[46:06] enlighten me, please?
[46:07] >> When and if this will be done
[46:08] but we are in the process of
[46:11] delineating how to make it
[46:12] happen.
[46:13] >> Just trying to make sure that
[46:14] --
[46:15] >> St. John's gets repaved.
[46:16] >> And the bridge done properly.
[46:17] >> Lakeshore needs to be
[46:19] repaved. There are a few streets
[46:20] that are very obvious and --
[46:21] >> If we're going to spend over
[46:22] $2 million to do a path and to
[46:25] do all this, then tear it down
[46:26] to do Saint-Jean, just a little
[46:32] word of caution. Where would
[46:36] this be then, Tara?
[46:38] >> Potentially Alston.
[46:44] >> Well, that's a different ball
[46:46] game.
[46:47] >> We are still in the process
[46:48] of delineating that. We actually
[46:49] had an extensive discussion.
[46:50] >> Finally Île-Bizard is going
[46:51] to come all the way through?
[46:52] Thank you.
[46:53] >> The czar Jacques-Bizard
[46:55] extension is the ultimate
[46:56] solution to all of this and we
[46:57] were just debating that as a
[46:58] Council. I mean, if we could get
[47:00] a guarantee, we could run it all
[47:02] through the jock bizarre
[47:03] extension, we could have
[47:04] pedestrian, we could have
[47:06] emergency vehicle, public
[47:08] transit, and pedestrian and
[47:10] cyclist. Through the jock
[47:12] bizarre extension. It would be
[47:13] the most efficient, effective
[47:14] way of solving all of it.
[47:16] Instead of doing individual ones
[47:18] all along. It would be the
[47:19] optimal solution but the
[47:21] Jacques-Bizard extension, as we
[47:22] were talking, I see it in the
[47:24] Agglo, it's up there with the
[47:26] Cavendish extension. It's been
[47:27] talked about for over 40 years,
[47:29] I think. So, here's hoping. We
[47:31] can always hope.
[47:32] >> Okay so, just to be clear,
[47:35] you will look into how we can
[47:37] set a contingency plan with the
[47:38] City for any building that's
[47:40] built?
[47:42] >> Contingency plan for?
[47:45] >> I'm the builder, I want to
[47:47] build a place in excess and into
[47:49] damages to the citizens beside.
[47:51] The plan would be that, as my
[47:53] company, I would put X amount of
[47:54] million dollars aside so that if
[47:56] there's anything that happens,
[47:57] the citizens can just go to that
[48:00] fund without a fight and when
[48:02] it's done, and it's all, it
[48:04] doesn't exist. It exists in some
[48:06] communities, I've done my
[48:07] homework. So, that's my
[48:10] question.
[48:11] >> It's an interesting proposal.
[48:12] >> Thank you very much.
[48:13] >> Thank you.
[48:15] >> We Line Conway.
[48:26] >> Good evening, Council.
[48:28] - Bonsoir.
[48:44] Okay, something happened at the
[48:45] end of the council meeting in
[48:47] April 16th and June to my
[48:51] husband. Here it goes. Some
[48:53] councillors have often treated
[48:54] citizens concerns with disdain.
[48:57] Even contempt for many years
[48:59] how. No or was it more evident
[49:01] in last council meeting of June
[49:03] when Councillor Cousineau tried
[49:05] to justify having shown his
[49:07] middle finger to a hustler. He
[49:10] made a mockery of his name and
[49:12] then ridiculed and demeaned by
[49:14] husbands participation in
[49:16] Council over the past few years.
[49:19] It's Council not here to answer
[49:20] to the citizens? Is it not the
[49:23] purpose of this exercise? My
[49:25] husband's questions could be
[49:27] pointed, but they were never
[49:29] rude. The same cannot be said of
[49:31] the Councillors who had
[49:33] repeatedly been rude and have
[49:34] deliberately use mockery and
[49:36] sarcasm during council meetings,
[49:37] even to use, Mayor Thomas.
[49:40] They've even yelled and stormed
[49:41] out of the chambers like
[49:43] children, yet it's these very
[49:46] councillors from the previous
[49:47] administration have called in
[49:49] higher level of government --
[49:50] >> Point of order, please.
[49:53] >> Would you allow her to
[49:54] finish, please?
[49:56] >> Tell them what they're doing
[49:58] wrong, -- maybe the problem is
[50:00] not the citizens or you, Mayor
[50:02] Thomas. You've always performed
[50:04] with the quorum. The problem has
[50:05] always been the councillors not
[50:07] listening and consulting with
[50:08] citizens who elected them. Mayor
[50:12] Thomas, you did apologize to my
[50:13] husband at last month's meeting
[50:14] within councillors admitted that
[50:16] Mr. Cousineau's behaviour goes
[50:18] against the City code of
[50:20] conduct.
[50:22] >> Sorry, Miss Conway, your
[50:24] question was? I miss saw that
[50:25] just at the end
[50:27] >> You did apologize to my
[50:29] husband at last month's meeting
[50:30] but then councillors, can
[50:32] councillors admit that Mr.
[50:33] Cousineau's behaviour goes
[50:34] against the City code of
[50:36] conduct?
[50:37] >> Well, I can't speak for
[50:39] Council. I mean, Councillor
[50:41] Stork wants to speak in a
[50:42] second, so I will maybe let him
[50:43] speak to that as well. I don't
[50:49] think, I mean, as I said, my
[50:53] head is here. I'm looking at you
[50:54] from here so I cannot see up and
[50:56] down peoples behaviour. I don't
[50:58] think a middle finger to
[51:00] someone's appropriate at all and
[51:01] I don't think anybody appear
[51:02] would agree with that. Nor
[51:05] mispronouncing or suggesting
[51:06] that someone's behaviour is
[51:08] warranted that kind of response.
[51:10] I don't think it's appropriate,
[51:12] myself, personally. And I
[51:14] apologize for any offence taken,
[51:16] and I think we should make
[51:18] efforts not to behave in this
[51:19] way, absolutely. That would be
[51:21] my personal response and I will
[51:23] leave the others to respond in
[51:24] their own manner. Councillor
[51:26] Stork, you did want to speak at
[51:27] some point.
[51:28] >> Yes, I would just like to
[51:29] point of order, just remind you,
[51:31] Mister Mayor, it's your
[51:33] responsibility to PC 20 7:12 to
[51:35] hold the quorum. When
[51:36] accusations are made, such as
[51:38] Councillors storming out of here
[51:39] like children, I think that's
[51:40] where you're supposed to
[51:42] interject and hold decorum.
[51:43] Thank you.
[51:48] >>
[51:49] >> That is an interesting
[51:50] interpretation of 20 7:12. I
[51:54] think that that is the citizen's
[51:57] perception of what occurred.
[52:00] It's not a kind perception, but
[52:02] it is a citizen's perception of
[52:04] what occurred. Do we stop people
[52:08] from expressing how they
[52:09] perceive something? If they're
[52:11] not using swear words, they're
[52:12] not showing a middle finger, or
[52:14] they're not denigrating anybody
[52:16] in a malicious manner? Well, it
[52:19] crosses over. But my take on
[52:24] that is that it is not a kind of
[52:26] way of assessing what occurred,
[52:28] but it's not a tremendously
[52:32] egregious way of expressing
[52:33] oneself. I thought it was, based
[52:38] on an event that actually
[52:40] occurred, and that's the persons
[52:42] interpretation of how the event
[52:43] occurred, so I did not see it as
[52:45] egregious. I mean, it was
[52:46] borderline, though. That would
[52:48] be my interpretation.
[52:50] >> In a nutshell, I was asking
[52:52] about what Mr. Cousineau said
[52:54] ended to my husband, and what
[52:55] the councillors thought about
[52:58] this. Does it comply with the
[52:59] City's code of conduct?
[53:00] >> Okay, I've spoken to that. If
[53:02] anybody else on Council would
[53:03] like to speak to that, they are
[53:05] more than welcome.
[53:08] >> Thank you.
[53:10] >> Okay. Nasr El daddy.
[53:20] >> Good evening. In April 16th,
[53:27] the Saint-Luc council from the
[53:29] previous administration did ask
[53:33] me -- to come manage the city.
[53:37] -- Work with you, Mister Mayor,
[53:39] for what we elected you for. So,
[53:41] what exactly -- that or happened
[53:48] when they came and? Can you tell
[53:50] us in detail, please?
[53:53] >> I'm not sure. You're talking
[53:55] about manage?
[53:56] >> Yes.
[53:59] >> I'm not sure what I'm allowed
[54:01] to indulge. There were visits,
[54:04] there were some interviewing
[54:06] done. We were greeted, we were
[54:10] interviewed as a Council and
[54:11] then interviewed individually.
[54:14] We were told that there will be
[54:15] no forthcoming report in the
[54:18] Pointe-Claire instance here and
[54:20] as far as I know, I haven't
[54:23] heard of anything subsequently.
[54:25] Madame Verdun, do you know
[54:27] anything beyond that?
[54:29] >> No. What they do is they
[54:32] discuss what with the council
[54:33] and explain what is the -- of
[54:36] the city and they make personal
[54:40] also interview with each of
[54:42] them, but they will not have,
[54:44] you know, other reports or
[54:45] something like that.
[54:52] >> I don't know exactly how far
[54:54] I can go in this but they did
[54:56] not seem to think that there was
[54:59] anything terribly critical going
[55:01] on in Pointe-Claire. That's why
[55:03] there is no report forthcoming.
[55:05] >> Because there are seven, they
[55:07] can do any, you know, -- the
[55:11] City can ask somebody from
[55:13] outside, you know? From the
[55:16] minister. So, if already they
[55:17] don't want to work with you,
[55:18] Mister Mayor, can you start
[55:23] doing a party, another party, so
[55:26] the next election, people know
[55:27] who is really going to be
[55:28] working for the citizen and not
[55:31] work for somebody else?
[55:33] >> Well, that's one
[55:35] interpretation, mister El-Dabee.
[55:36] Everybody up your has been
[55:37] elected independently and we
[55:38] don't have parties in
[55:41] Pointe-Claire, as of yet. So,
[55:43] everybody has been elected
[55:44] legitimately, as an individual
[55:46] councillor in each district. You
[55:48] know, one strategy to, sort of
[55:51] need to have Councillors comply
[55:53] with a mayor's to have, you
[55:55] could have a party or a slate.
[55:58] That's another option. A slate
[55:59] is not quite a party but it's a
[56:00] group of councillors that agree
[56:02] with the same objectives, as a
[56:05] mayoral candidate and that may
[56:06] be a possibility next election,
[56:08] absolutely. That's one option.
[56:11] But I mean, everybody is up here
[56:12] to act independently and are
[56:14] entitled to do so. They're
[56:17] elected for their own reasons
[56:18] and their own districts, so they
[56:20] can perform as they choose and
[56:22] have done so. If that answers
[56:25] your question.
[56:26] >> Yeah because I hope, really,
[56:28] God bless you all to work all
[56:30] together for the benefit of the
[56:32] citizens of Pointe-Claire. But
[56:35] really, -- built the city and
[56:37] all the industrial park. So,
[56:42] please, try to work together for
[56:45] the citizens need because we
[56:47] elected you all to work for the
[56:50] citizens. Thank you.
[56:51] >> Thank you, Mister El-Dabee.
[57:01] Philippe Pare?
[57:04] >> Good afternoon. First off,
[57:07] for 16.3, --
[57:10] >> Get a little higher. Seeing
[57:12] that out.
[57:13] >> For 16.3, thank you very much
[57:15] for finally giving us a safer
[57:17] way across Highway 40. Our
[57:21] current tree Highway 20
[57:22] underpasses of always been
[57:23] wonderful to use. My question,
[57:26] though, is why must the council
[57:28] meeting agenda be so scripted
[57:30] about the position of the
[57:33] crossway that I had to go to the
[57:34] S E A O government website in
[57:37] order the 500 page document?
[57:40] >> Well, that is a very good
[57:43] question. And I, myself, concur
[57:45] with you. I think we are little
[57:48] cryptic in how our agendas are
[57:49] written and I think we can be
[57:50] more informative. That would be
[57:54] my conclusion as well. As for
[57:56] the overpass, we aren't there
[57:57] yet. We're in deliberation.
[57:59] >> I know, it's -- favourably
[58:01] on. I mean, --
[58:02] >> Well if everything works and
[58:03] the funding -- all the ducks
[58:04] follow in order and stuff, but
[58:06] yes, north, south, anything
[58:08] overpass pedestrian and cyclist,
[58:10] north, south, is desperately
[58:12] wanted and needed on the part of
[58:13] the city. It is, of course,
[58:15] always a question of cost. But
[58:17] yes, the underpasses are always
[58:18] the walkways and under the 20
[58:20] are wonderful and we have what
[58:21] exists is good, and we can
[58:23] always use more. We were on the
[58:28] FCM conference in Calgary, had
[58:30] walkways everywhere. I was just
[58:32] so jealous. And they're covered
[58:34] walkways. So in the winter, it's
[58:36] incredibly pedestrian friendly
[58:37] how people can move around and I
[58:39] was extremely jealous.
[58:42] >> Perfect, in fact, can I ask a
[58:43] second question?
[58:44] >> One more, absolutely.
[58:45] >> My second question, again, if
[58:47] it's voted favourably on
[58:48] everything goes agreed to plan,
[58:49] will 16.3 be eventually
[58:52] connected to the bike path on
[58:54] such field and Aurora to
[58:55] basically allowed north, south
[58:56] straight from the village, the
[58:58] train station, all the way to
[58:59] the REM?
[59:00] >> That's a good question. Does
[59:01] it lineup, Madame Verdun? It
[59:04] does, right? Yes.
[59:05] >> Most of the roads, half of
[59:06] the road's bike path, half is,
[59:09] good luck.
[59:11] >> Yeah, it could be worse to,
[59:13] could be St. John's but yes, go
[59:15] ahead, Councillor Stainforth.
[59:16] >> So, there is a part of the
[59:18] bike path that has to be
[59:19] actively constructed. Right now,
[59:22] it ends near the man who are.
[59:24] So, between the men were and
[59:26] Alston, there is another section
[59:27] of bike path that has to be
[59:29] constructed.
[59:30] >> 16.1? It's a 16.1?
[59:32] >> No. That's actually Alston to
[59:35] still view. So, --
[59:38] >> That will extend beyond that.
[59:39] >> There's still a missing chunk
[59:41] there and that one is awaiting
[59:43] the finalization of the
[59:44] construction in the area. So,
[59:46] the one west construction which
[59:47] is still happening, behind that,
[59:50] there is a section of land
[59:52] that's owned by the City, which
[59:53] would be the continuation to
[59:56] join along the Hymus, behind
[59:58] manager, right up to Alston. And
[1:00:00] that also joins with if you're
[1:00:02] on Alston, there is one-on-one
[1:00:05] Alston is a park space that we
[1:00:06] have. There's a bicycle path
[1:00:08] goes through there and into
[1:00:10] Greenwich, and then that would
[1:00:12] also be continued to meet up
[1:00:14] with the other section going
[1:00:16] through Greenwich.
[1:00:17] >> Please have proper, you know,
[1:00:19] signage when it's all done,
[1:00:20] please.
[1:00:21] >> Okay, thank you, Mister
[1:00:24] Perry. Joanna zoo?
[1:00:32] >> Good evening. My question
[1:00:35] will be regarding the bike lane
[1:00:38] between still ville and Alston.
[1:00:41] Councillor Tremblay came to our
[1:00:43] neighbourhood to give us an
[1:00:45] update of few times and he
[1:00:47] encouraged me to come here to
[1:00:48] ask questions because I live in
[1:00:52] with -- my deck is right facing
[1:00:55] the future bike lane. I didn't
[1:00:58] measure the distance. I think
[1:01:00] it's within 50 metres. It's
[1:01:02] very, very close to our houses.
[1:01:05] I spoke to a few neighbours in
[1:01:08] our block and we are all very
[1:01:12] concerned, as this gentleman
[1:01:14] brought up earlier, about the
[1:01:17] potential safety and privacy
[1:01:20] issues. Also during the
[1:01:22] construction, it might, you
[1:01:24] know, cause inconvenience to our
[1:01:26] lives for noises, the dust, and
[1:01:30] I work from home every day, so
[1:01:32] I'm not sure during those
[1:01:35] months, with construction so
[1:01:37] close to my house, will I be
[1:01:39] able to keep working? I have
[1:01:42] video calls every day we. Also,
[1:01:45] there I know there will be
[1:01:47] vegetation being cut or trimmed.
[1:01:50] There is a line of trees between
[1:01:54] Terrence van go and bone a, and
[1:01:56] the future bike lane. But if the
[1:01:59] trees are cut and there's a
[1:02:01] hedge in front of my deck, if
[1:02:03] it's removed, my deck will be
[1:02:06] completely exposed to the lane.
[1:02:10] I don't know what the City will
[1:02:12] do if that is the case. Also,
[1:02:15] according to Councillor
[1:02:17] Tremblay, sounds like it's
[1:02:19] already a done deal, this
[1:02:20] project. But it seems like, in
[1:02:23] our neighbourhood, most of us
[1:02:24] only knew about it since last
[1:02:26] month and were very surprised.
[1:02:28] So, I would like to know if we
[1:02:30] have a say in this, for having a
[1:02:33] bike lane and pedestrian road
[1:02:35] going through our backyard.
[1:02:37] >> Well, it shouldn't come as a
[1:02:39] surprise. We were told last
[1:02:41] meeting how long it's been in
[1:02:42] the works. It has certainly been
[1:02:46] well known that there is been
[1:02:48] plans for that project for very
[1:02:50] long time. It's actually
[1:02:53] probably finally coming to
[1:02:55] fruition. So, I definitely don't
[1:02:57] think it should come as a
[1:02:59] surprise. It is a priority
[1:03:03] because it is a bike path. As
[1:03:06] far as construction noise or
[1:03:09] disruption, it's a bike path.
[1:03:11] It's not a highway, it's not a
[1:03:13] building. So, I don't think it
[1:03:14] will be as cumbersome or as
[1:03:19] awkward as many other parts of
[1:03:20] the city. As for the trees,
[1:03:24] well, the City has prioritize
[1:03:27] protecting all of the trees as
[1:03:29] best it can because it's part of
[1:03:31] the concept of what we're doing
[1:03:32] there. So, I can't see too many
[1:03:34] being cut down, that's for sure.
[1:03:37] >> In front of my deck, there is
[1:03:39] no trees. There's just a hedge.
[1:03:41] I don't know if it will be kept.
[1:03:42] >> We aren't cutting your hedge
[1:03:44] down. If it's your hedge, it
[1:03:46] should be okay, I suspect.
[1:03:47] >> It belongs to the other side.
[1:03:51] >> Oh, who knows? Who knows what
[1:03:54] the plans are, I would have to
[1:03:56] speak to the people in charge
[1:03:57] but I think it's a priority not
[1:04:01] to remove foliage or a tree
[1:04:03] canopy, for sure. It is, in
[1:04:05] fact, going to be a linear park
[1:04:07] so the objective is not to cut
[1:04:08] anything down. Perhaps there
[1:04:11] would be more foliage, as
[1:04:14] opposed to less, overtime.
[1:04:15] >> So I can expect it will be
[1:04:17] kept still?
[1:04:18] >> Yes and it'll be patrolled,
[1:04:19] and it will be lit. So I think,
[1:04:23] security -- I think it'll be a
[1:04:25] safe area. I don't foresee any
[1:04:27] problems.
[1:04:28] >> Okay and how do I expect the
[1:04:29] construction noise to be during
[1:04:31] those months?
[1:04:32] >> I can't predict the future
[1:04:34] but I suspect it will be the
[1:04:36] construction of a bike path, as
[1:04:37] it's normally done, they will be
[1:04:39] working during the day and not
[1:04:40] during the night, and it would
[1:04:41] be probably a form of asphalt Ng
[1:04:45] or, you know, gravel and
[1:04:48] asphalt, and it'll move fairly
[1:04:50] quickly. They've done other bike
[1:04:51] paths quite quickly, so it's not
[1:04:53] like a road, it's much, much,
[1:04:56] much quicker, the process. Did
[1:04:57] you want to speak, Councillor
[1:04:58] Tremblay?
[1:04:59] >> Yes, Mister Mayor, Joanna,
[1:05:00] thanks for coming to the meeting
[1:05:02] today. So, we've had a chance to
[1:05:03] speak about the project on a
[1:05:04] couple of occasions. I've spoken
[1:05:06] to the folks out on Brigadoon as
[1:05:09] well and try to keep everybody
[1:05:10] as abreast of the developments
[1:05:12] going there. So, with regards to
[1:05:14] the hedge that Miss issue is
[1:05:18] speaking about, Madame Verdun,
[1:05:21] it's a hedge that is directly
[1:05:22] behind her property, behind --
[1:05:26] it's behind the fence, so it's
[1:05:27] on Pointe-Claire property, as it
[1:05:29] were. So, that is something that
[1:05:30] I'm sure we are prepared to look
[1:05:32] at. Now, I don't want to steal
[1:05:35] any thunder from Madame Verdun
[1:05:38] who will be able to speak to you
[1:05:40] about the process going forward.
[1:05:42] So, I'm not going to mention to
[1:05:45] you the advantages that you will
[1:05:47] have in the coming days to learn
[1:05:48] more about the project. But as
[1:05:50] the mayor explained, the idea
[1:05:54] behind the linear park is to
[1:05:56] allow people to find a peaceful,
[1:05:59] serene way of getting around
[1:06:01] town, whether on bicycle or on
[1:06:04] by foot. Blended in with the
[1:06:07] concept of a linear park. So
[1:06:09] that as Mr. Perry mentioned
[1:06:12] earlier, the hope is that we can
[1:06:13] connect all these different
[1:06:15] segments that involves the
[1:06:17] bicycle path system that we have
[1:06:19] in the city so that it's easy
[1:06:20] for people to get along. I would
[1:06:23] love to tell you that there will
[1:06:24] be absolutely no discs -- no
[1:06:26] noise whatsoever, the docible
[1:06:28] numbers will be down to zero but
[1:06:29] there will be some construction
[1:06:30] noise inevitable because we need
[1:06:31] to do some of the work in order
[1:06:33] to install it. But as we've done
[1:06:36] on occasion, not on occasion, on
[1:06:38] every occasion where we've
[1:06:40] either dug up a street or
[1:06:42] implemented a new program, what
[1:06:43] we do is make sure that the
[1:06:46] residents in the area are well
[1:06:47] informed of what might happen
[1:06:49] and how that's going to, the
[1:06:51] process that will take place.
[1:06:52] So, maybe I will just leave it
[1:06:54] to Madame Verdun to explain the
[1:06:56] next steps, assuming we all vote
[1:06:59] this through.
[1:07:00] >> Yeah, if the city council
[1:07:03] votes to award a contract
[1:07:04] tonight, the residents behind,
[1:07:08] you know, the bike path will
[1:07:10] receive a next day little, you
[1:07:12] know, communication to have an
[1:07:13] information session probably
[1:07:15] next week, so you can ask all
[1:07:16] your technical, you know,
[1:07:19] questions and all, you know, the
[1:07:21] information that we need. We
[1:07:23] will take notes of the comments
[1:07:25] of the citizens --
[1:07:26] >> Okay, thanks.
[1:07:27] >> Thank you.
[1:07:28] >> Sorry, if I might just add.
[1:07:30] That process also is there to
[1:07:32] allow us to make some tweaks,
[1:07:35] some changes to the project to
[1:07:36] make sure that it fits in
[1:07:38] nicely? So, we do spend time
[1:07:40] listening. I mean, we're not
[1:07:42] redoing the project. The project
[1:07:44] will be undertaken as passed, if
[1:07:48] passed tonight. But it is an
[1:07:50] opportunity for us to make any
[1:07:51] kinds of adjustments to that a
[1:07:53] realistic.
[1:07:54] >> Thank you.
[1:07:56] >> Rod knew we?
[1:08:07] Newham.
[1:08:08] >> Thank you, good evening, as
[1:08:10] everyone. As the president of
[1:08:13] the terrace van go syndicate, my
[1:08:15] main concern with the linear
[1:08:17] park which I know has been
[1:08:20] ongoing since 2015 with the
[1:08:23] residents of Brigadoon, I've got
[1:08:26] a couple of just really serious
[1:08:30] concerns with regards,
[1:08:31] especially to with regards to
[1:08:33] the foliage with the trees. They
[1:08:36] are very large, mature trees on
[1:08:39] that path. Rather, you know, if
[1:08:42] they have to be cut down, I
[1:08:44] really would like to think that
[1:08:47] perhaps they could just be
[1:08:49] cutback because regardless, even
[1:08:51] if you took down four or five of
[1:08:53] those trees and planted 15 or 20
[1:08:58] new trees in their place, the
[1:09:01] new trees that are planted are
[1:09:03] about this size in diameter.
[1:09:05] They take 25 years to grow. You
[1:09:09] know, again, for the residents
[1:09:13] of terrace van go, we are
[1:09:16] concerned notwithstanding the
[1:09:17] fact that, you know, there is
[1:09:19] been mention that the path will
[1:09:21] be patrolled. I'm not sure, I
[1:09:26] mean, I will believe it when I
[1:09:27] see it. With regards to
[1:09:30] patrolling, I don't see too much
[1:09:32] patrolling going on now, even on
[1:09:33] our street which is a private
[1:09:37] street. I take for granted that
[1:09:41] City, that Council will vote
[1:09:44] tonight and I believe that's,
[1:09:46] because when I read 16.1, if I'm
[1:09:50] not mistaken, it says award of
[1:09:54] contract. Now, does that mean
[1:09:56] that this is a fait accompli? Or
[1:09:59] are we going to actually vote on
[1:10:01] whether you aware the contract
[1:10:02] or not? We
[1:10:03] >> Are about to vote as to
[1:10:05] whether we're going to.
[1:10:06] >> Okay, that's very good. Well,
[1:10:08] thank you.
[1:10:09] >> And just in response,
[1:10:10] Councillor Tremblay and I walked
[1:10:13] back a couple years ago, so I
[1:10:15] know exactly what you're talking
[1:10:17] about. There's some tremendous
[1:10:18] trees along there and the beauty
[1:10:20] of a bike path is that you can
[1:10:22] you have some, flexibility as to
[1:10:25] what you can preserve and what
[1:10:26] has to be cut. So, because there
[1:10:29] are huge. So, the utmost care
[1:10:31] will be taken. I mean, it is a
[1:10:32] linear parts of the utmost care
[1:10:34] will be taken to preserve
[1:10:35] everything along the route to
[1:10:38] make it, as beautiful as
[1:10:39] possible and you are absolutely
[1:10:41] right. Cutting down an old
[1:10:42] growth tree, I see this in CCU
[1:10:47] meetings all the time, trees get
[1:10:48] cut down. Well, they never
[1:10:51] replace what was there. They
[1:10:53] don't and people think that, a
[1:10:55] well, we take one down, we put
[1:10:56] another one there, that doesn't
[1:10:58] work. It doesn't even come close
[1:11:00] and we have to be really careful
[1:11:02] about that.
[1:11:03] >> One last question because I
[1:11:05] think I was allowed to have to,
[1:11:07] one last question. Given the
[1:11:09] fact that cyclists do ride, I'm
[1:11:13] an avid cyclist, myself. They do
[1:11:15] ride in the winter. I mean, I
[1:11:17] work in the bicycle industry.
[1:11:20] Fat bikes are very popular. Will
[1:11:23] this path be kept open in the
[1:11:25] winter as well?
[1:11:26] >> These are good questions and
[1:11:28] I will let Madame Verdun speak
[1:11:30] to that in a second. It's how
[1:11:31] they're constructed that has a
[1:11:33] bearing on that, so that the
[1:11:34] runoff, so they don't become,
[1:11:37] that's why, you know, we've
[1:11:38] shied away from plowing a lot of
[1:11:40] bike pets because they are
[1:11:42] slippery and they can be
[1:11:43] hazardous because it depends on
[1:11:44] your drainage, really how
[1:11:46] they're built and constructed.
[1:11:48] That may have some bearing. I
[1:11:49] mean, you're right, the fat
[1:11:51] bikes are the future and people
[1:11:53] are going to be cycling in the
[1:11:55] winter. We are going to have to
[1:11:56] approach that topic and I think
[1:11:57] that will, that has some bearing
[1:12:01] on how the bill by path so that
[1:12:02] they dream properly but I will
[1:12:03] let Madame Verdun speak to that.
[1:12:06] >> I think you answered pretty
[1:12:07] well the question.
[1:12:08] >> Okay, are we building it in
[1:12:11] anticipation? Are we building a
[1:12:12] drainage or runoff so that it
[1:12:14] will be accessible in the
[1:12:15] winter?
[1:12:16] >> The new one, we're building
[1:12:17] with drainage what we have to
[1:12:18] connect, you know, the whole one
[1:12:19] with a new one so it will kind
[1:12:20] of be complicated for, you know,
[1:12:23] to clean one side and then the
[1:12:25] other side but we are working on
[1:12:26] a project eventually to try to
[1:12:28] open the bike path.
[1:12:29] >> Thank you very much.
[1:12:30] >> You're very welcome.
[1:12:31] >> Mister Mayor, many say
[1:12:33] something?
[1:12:34] >> Absolutely.
[1:12:35] >> To address your concern about
[1:12:36] trees, just to the linear park
[1:12:38] doesn't mean the path is a
[1:12:39] straight line.
[1:12:40] >> I would imagine it's --
[1:12:42] >> It meanders in places to
[1:12:44] avoid trees and there's another
[1:12:46] special feature which is this
[1:12:47] little footbridge. The only
[1:12:49] reason the footbridge is there
[1:12:50] is so that they don't have to
[1:12:51] dig the damaged routes that are
[1:12:53] going to probably kill the tree
[1:12:54] lovers, so a lot of effort has
[1:12:56] been taken.
[1:13:00] >> Trying to illustrate the
[1:13:02] point that it's a top priority.
[1:13:05] >> Susan Weaver?
[1:13:14] >> Okay, so speaking at past
[1:13:20] council meetings, you are
[1:13:21] talking about a public
[1:13:22] consultation for Fairview
[1:13:24] forest. I was wondering what the
[1:13:26] consultation would look like.
[1:13:27] Would it be about zoning? We've
[1:13:29] already had those consultations.
[1:13:32] Is that about City ownership
[1:13:34] unless it's gifted? The city
[1:13:36] would have to expropriate, then
[1:13:38] the City has a duty to ask all
[1:13:41] citizens if they would agree to
[1:13:43] purchase a land by holding a
[1:13:45] referendum. Expropriation would
[1:13:48] still be costly, even with the
[1:13:50] new changes to the expropriation
[1:13:52] Act and still, no guarantee. I
[1:13:55] think it would be a waste of
[1:13:56] time and money to hold a public
[1:13:58] consultation now if it is not
[1:14:00] public land, but privately
[1:14:02] owned. And if the owner is not
[1:14:04] at the table. So, what would the
[1:14:06] consultation be about?
[1:14:08] >> Okay, that's your question,
[1:14:10] Miss Weaver? The consultation
[1:14:12] would be largely about privately
[1:14:15] owned green spaces in an urban
[1:14:18] setting. It can include Fairview
[1:14:20] forest, it can include the ATM
[1:14:22] lands, Ponner Woods, it could
[1:14:24] include golf courses,
[1:14:25] Beaconsfield golf course. It's
[1:14:27] an extensive concern that's been
[1:14:29] broached in all kinds of cities
[1:14:30] now and people are consulting, I
[1:14:33] mean, the Rosemère golf course
[1:14:35] is a huge issue right now. These
[1:14:37] are very much considerations for
[1:14:39] cities and there is nothing
[1:14:40] unique about it. We simply, as a
[1:14:42] city, have to do our share to
[1:14:44] consider these things because it
[1:14:45] is the future. Bill 39 has
[1:14:48] changed how green spaces are
[1:14:50] perceived and how they can be
[1:14:51] dealt with in the future. We
[1:14:53] have to interpret all of these
[1:14:55] things in a way that will best
[1:14:56] protect the future of our world,
[1:14:59] our environment, and how healthy
[1:15:02] we can live into the future and
[1:15:03] green spaces are crucial. Any
[1:15:06] city should consider them
[1:15:07] responsibly in their public
[1:15:09] consultation, public
[1:15:10] participation process.
[1:15:11] >> So this is, in general, not
[1:15:12] just about one place, a private
[1:15:14] places?
[1:15:15] >> Well, that's one of the
[1:15:16] proposals. We haven't even
[1:15:17] devised it yet and I'm pushing
[1:15:19] to have that happen. But yes, I
[1:15:22] think that it would be ideally a
[1:15:26] more general discussion of green
[1:15:28] spaces in general.
[1:15:37] But, you know --
[1:15:40] >> Yes, so I've heard.
[1:15:41] >> But there's not a lot of
[1:15:43] people that --
[1:15:44] >> Miss Weaver, are you asking a
[1:15:45] question? Because I was just
[1:15:46] trying to answer. I'm not sure.
[1:15:49] Okay. The consultation itself
[1:15:57] will be whatever is devised by
[1:15:59] the professionals, and it will
[1:16:01] be fair and objective. It's not
[1:16:03] me that advises it, and it
[1:16:06] should probably be as democratic
[1:16:08] process as possible, and involve
[1:16:11] peoples perception of the future
[1:16:12] of their city, and I'd love to
[1:16:13] see it happen. And I'm going to
[1:16:15] push to have it happen, and I
[1:16:17] think it's the only responsible
[1:16:18] thing to do, if that answers
[1:16:20] your question. And now, do you
[1:16:22] have a subsequent question, Miss
[1:16:23] Weaver? Because that's a couple
[1:16:26] there.
[1:16:27] >> You're going to have to
[1:16:28] mention expropriation. Okay, my
[1:16:31] second question is when will the
[1:16:33] supermarket have the go ahead to
[1:16:34] build where Canada Post is?
[1:16:37] >> Good question. Not a
[1:16:41] volatile, do we have a
[1:16:45] high-timeline for the
[1:16:46] supermarket?
[1:16:47] >> No, we don't have any
[1:16:48] timeline.
[1:16:49] >> Eric, did you want to --
[1:16:56] Richard des Roseraies? Richard.
[1:17:13] - Charles Desrochers
[1:17:14] Pointe-Claire.
[1:17:15] [Speaking French]
[1:17:18] Mais je me félicite, ça fait à
[1:17:19] peu près 50 ans que je viens aux
[1:17:22] réunions du conseil de ville.
[1:17:24] Quand je suis venu la première
[1:17:25] fois, c'est lui qui était
[1:17:27] gérant.
[1:17:30] - Il était gérant de la ville.
[1:17:33] La greffière, c'était
[1:17:35] mademoiselle Monique Trudeau. Je
[1:17:39] vous dis ça, parce que ça a
[1:17:43] commencé avec le 309. Je peux
[1:17:49] dire que je suis encore
[1:17:51] (inaudible)
[1:17:56] en 1900 Socrate huit. J'ai été
[1:18:01] membre fondateur qui a été
[1:18:04] incorporé en 1986. Je peux
[1:18:07] confirmer ce que monsieur
[1:18:08] Cousineau dit. En 87, justement,
[1:18:10] c'est là que le comité le
[1:18:11] citoyen a commencé à parler du
[1:18:15] patrimoine du village.
[1:18:18] D'ailleurs, monsieur Claude
[1:18:19] Arseneault était sur le côté.
[1:18:21] J'ai été aussi membre des
[1:18:23] commerçants, ce qui fait que je
[1:18:24] suis pas mal au courant, j'ai
[1:18:26] été décidant de Pointe-Claire,
[1:18:28] je suis pas mal au courant de
[1:18:29] comment ça fonctionne à la
[1:18:33] Ville. C'est plus compliqué
[1:18:35] maintenant, je peux vous dire,
[1:18:36] que c'était avant, avec les
[1:18:37] règlements.
[1:18:38] [Speaking French]
[1:18:39] Donc, au 309 au bord du lac,
[1:18:42] aujourd'hui, j'ai vu... c'est le
[1:18:46] restaurant, ça a fait par tient
[1:18:47] à la famille pectoraux.
[1:18:53] - Au sujet de loups?
[1:18:56] - J'ai vu qu'il y a un permis de
[1:18:59] construction qui est là, il n'y
[1:19:00] a pas rien d'écrit. Je vois
[1:19:02] qu'il y a des travaux qui sont
[1:19:04] faits dans ce local-là. Je vois
[1:19:07] qu'il y a une terrasse qui a été
[1:19:09] construite, je ne vois pas de
[1:19:10] permis de terrasse, Pascal
[1:19:12] intéresse il faut dire que il
[1:19:13] faut payer. Ça, sur le permis,
[1:19:16] c'était écrit 309. La, c'était
[1:19:22] avant au 309, il y en a eu,
[1:19:24] c'était sur le sujet, c'est sur
[1:19:26] ça que j'ai vu venir, c'était
[1:19:27] occupe assurons Mexx. C'est un
[1:19:31] magasin commercial qui est
[1:19:32] devenu le restera. Selon, moi le
[1:19:36] Bilboquet, c'était des deux.
[1:19:38] Avec ça, il est venu, justement,
[1:19:41] pour 2022. Ça a été voté dans le
[1:19:44] bloc du jour de procéder, mais
[1:19:45] le procès-verbal dans pas mal
[1:19:46] plus que l'ordre du jour, dans
[1:19:47] le procès-verbal, c'est que, à
[1:19:48] cause du stationnement,
[1:19:49] justement le propriétaire de la
[1:19:50] bâtisse devait avoir une entente
[1:19:51] avec la Ville de Pointe-Claire
[1:19:52] dans un rayon de 200 mètres.
[1:19:53] [Speaking French]
[1:20:07] [Speaking French]
[1:20:08] [Speaking French]
[1:20:09] Ça, c'est nouveau, ça n'existait
[1:20:11] pas avant. C'est pour ça que je
[1:20:12] vous dis que je me souviens,
[1:20:17] 21,88.
[1:20:18] (inaudible)
[1:20:20] Tout ça pour dire... je ne sais
[1:20:23] pas si cette entente a été
[1:20:25] signée, parce que je me serais
[1:20:27] attendu à ce que la ville vote
[1:20:30] là-dessus. Je n'ai pas rien vu.
[1:20:34] Ce n'est pas ma question, parce
[1:20:36] que j'ai d'autres questions. Ce
[1:20:37] qui arrive, c'est que là, le
[1:20:39] Bilboquet, ce que je comprends,
[1:20:41] le permis est au 309, c'est le
[1:20:44] restaurant. Le Bilboquet, c'est
[1:20:46] aider. Restaurants, mais deux.
[1:20:49] Là on est au stationnement. Le
[1:20:51] Bilboquet, c'était la crème
[1:20:53] glacée avant, c'était en
[1:20:54] comptoirs. Là, si le 309 dans
[1:20:59] tes rénovations ou la terrasse,
[1:21:01] ça grandit, ça augmente le
[1:21:04] nombre de places. Donc, je
[1:21:07] reviens au mois d'août 2022.
[1:21:10] L'entente... et le supposé avoir
[1:21:11] une entente avec la Ville de
[1:21:14] Pointe-Claire et là si ça
[1:21:16] augmente le nombre de places il
[1:21:17] faudrait que Hill y ait une
[1:21:18] nouvelle entente.
[1:21:19] [Speaking French]
[1:21:20] De ce que je vois, il n'y a
[1:21:21] rien. Il y a un permis pour
[1:21:24] construire et là, à ce
[1:21:25] moment-là, on m'avait dit que la
[1:21:33] famille était du stationnement
[1:21:34] du côté sud de la rue golfe.
[1:21:38] (---)
[1:21:39] [Speaking French]
[1:21:47] (problème technique)
[1:22:39] - Vous comprendrez que je n'ai
[1:22:41] pas l'information exacte, à ce
[1:22:43] niveau, -là alors c'est sûr que
[1:22:45] s'il y a des constructions et
[1:22:47] des permis qui sont, donner la
[1:22:49] réglementation doit être
[1:22:50] respectée. Ça n'allait pas, il y
[1:22:51] aura des inspections qui seront
[1:22:53] faites. Et il y aura des
[1:22:59] actions...
[1:23:00] - Quoi ce n'est pas fait? Vous
[1:23:01] allez voter? Vous ne savez pas?
[1:23:02] Comment le conseil peut voter.
[1:23:04] Voici ma question. Je vais aller
[1:23:06] aux six rues du Golfe. Je
[1:23:10] regarde le règlement de
[1:23:13] zonage... pouvez-vous
[1:23:14] m'expliquer la privation qu'il y
[1:23:16] a là? Moi, je n'ai pas vu ça
[1:23:17] dans la procédure. Comment vous
[1:23:22] pouvez voter sur quelque chose
[1:23:23] que vous me dites que vous ne
[1:23:24] savez pas. Si vous vous ne le
[1:23:26] savait, pas comment les
[1:23:27] conseillers peuvent être au
[1:23:28] courant de la situation et voter
[1:23:30] sur un projet
[1:23:33] (inaudible)
[1:23:34] ?
[1:23:35] - Vous m'avez posé une question
[1:23:36] sur le 309. Je vous demanderais
[1:23:38] de baisser le, tombe s'il vous
[1:23:40] plaît.
[1:23:41] - Vous m'avez répondu que vous
[1:23:42] ne le saviez pas. Ma deuxième
[1:23:43] question c'est comment le
[1:23:44] conseil de ville peut voter sur
[1:23:45] un projet
[1:23:50] (inaudible)
[1:23:51] ? Le savez-vous ou pas? Le
[1:23:53] conseil de ville le? C'est où le
[1:23:55] savez-vous?
[1:23:56] - Je vais vous répéter la
[1:23:57] question: présentement, il n'y a
[1:23:59] aucun vote qui est fait sur le
[1:24:01] 309. Comment vous pouvez voter
[1:24:03] si vous ne savez pas ce qui
[1:24:04] arrive avec le 309?
[1:24:18] Est-ce qu'il y a eu une entente?
[1:24:20] - Oui, il y en a eu une.
[1:24:22] - Si vous me permettez, je vais
[1:24:24] juste compléter la réponse. Ce
[1:24:26] genre d'entente-là, c'est des
[1:24:30] exigences que la Ville a selon
[1:24:31] son règlement...
[1:24:51] - Alors, il y a un acte notarié
[1:24:52] qui devra suivre éventuellement.
[1:24:56] La Ville intervient dans ce
[1:24:58] genre d'entente-là. Ce
[1:24:59] mentionner, on l'a fait par le
[1:25:01] passé, la Ville intervient. On
[1:25:03] n'est pas nécessairement une
[1:25:05] partie à l'entente, mais on
[1:25:07] intervient pour témoigner et
[1:25:08] pour reconnaître que les
[1:25:10] citoyens ont rencontré leurs
[1:25:12] exigences. Alors, ça peut
[1:25:14] compléter la réponse de madame
[1:25:15] Verdon.
[1:25:19] - Ce n'est pas, ça ma question.
[1:25:20] Est-ce que l'entente 2022 est
[1:25:22] signée? Je ne parle pas de
[1:25:24] maintenant, je parle de 2022!
[1:25:26] - L'entente pour le
[1:25:29] stationnement?
[1:25:31] - L'urbanisme le dit, parce que
[1:25:33] le procès verbal est différent,
[1:25:35] en passant, il est différent de
[1:25:38] l'ordre du jour. C'est là qu'on
[1:25:40] fait mention du menteur d'une
[1:25:42] servitude à faire. Vous me dites
[1:25:44] que ça va être assigné. Elle me
[1:25:45] dit ça, mais je ne parle pas de
[1:25:47] maintenant, je parle de août
[1:25:50] 2022. Si ça n'a pas été signé...
[1:25:53] premièrement, et s'il faut
[1:25:54] changer l'entente, il y a
[1:25:55] quelque chose qui se vote par
[1:25:57] rapport à ça sur le terrain. Le
[1:26:00] Sud du golf ça va avoir rapport
[1:26:02] au terrain de Westmount. Ça va
[1:26:08] passer ou... c'est ça! Êtes-vous
[1:26:12] au courant de ce sur quoi vous
[1:26:13] votez?
[1:26:14] - Je n'étais pas d'accord avec
[1:26:15] la décision de séparer le
[1:26:20] stationnement devant. Pour moi,
[1:26:22] c'est trop loin. Ça ne
[1:26:23] fonctionne pas. Dans le village,
[1:26:25] le nouveau système va dire que
[1:26:27] vous pouvez vous stationner à
[1:26:29] une autre place plus loin si ce
[1:26:31] n'est pas devant la business, ce
[1:26:32] n'est pas du parking. Alors, ça
[1:26:34] ne fonctionne pas. On a un
[1:26:36] nouveau système avec lequel je
[1:26:38] ne suis pas d'accord ou il y a
[1:26:40] des gens qui pensent qu'on peut
[1:26:43] donner le stationnement à une
[1:26:45] autre partie du visage pour...
[1:26:51] on ne fonctionne pas. Il y a des
[1:26:53] jeunes crus de socialement. À
[1:26:55] l'époque, quand on a décidé ça,
[1:26:58] il y avait un stationnement à
[1:27:00] l'arrière qui était à vendre
[1:27:03] pour la maison. Qu'est-ce qui se
[1:27:05] passe? On a une crise de
[1:27:07] stationnement dans le village,
[1:27:08] on ne peut pas rendre ça comme
[1:27:11] présidence juste derrière.
[1:27:13] Finalement, le propriétaire l'a
[1:27:17] acheté et avec raison. C'est de
[1:27:20] l'autre côté de la rue.
[1:27:38] (problème technique)
[1:27:39] Il y a la trace qui a été
[1:27:43] fabriquée... alors, je comprends
[1:27:47] bien ce que vous expliquez.
[1:27:49] - Deuxième question. Là, ça
[1:27:53] avait rapport au golf. Le
[1:27:58] PPCMOI, c'est du charabia. Je me
[1:28:02] demande s'il n'y a une partie de
[1:28:05] journée, je pense que le
[1:28:06] gouvernement du Québec avait
[1:28:07] empêché le spotte de zonage. La
[1:28:09] raison, c'était pour éviter
[1:28:10] qu'il y a des avantages indu
[1:28:12] d'une personne a une autre et si
[1:28:15] ce n'est pas du zone... je ne
[1:28:19] sais pas, selon vous, est-ce que
[1:28:20] le conseil de ville, est-ce que
[1:28:21] c'est légal de faire du zonage?
[1:28:25] Quand on parle du charabia qu'il
[1:28:26] y a là, constructions que vous
[1:28:29] allez ajouter... à ce qu'il y a
[1:28:31] autre chose qu'il y aura dans le
[1:28:33] procès-verbal? C'est ça, ma
[1:28:34] question.
[1:28:35] - Je ne suis pas d'accord avec
[1:28:38] ça. Je ne peux pas parler pour
[1:28:40] le conseil, mais pour moi...
[1:28:42] - L'avocate de la Ville,
[1:28:43] qu'est-ce qu'elle pense de ça?
[1:28:45] - Ce n'est pas la ville qui
[1:28:46] décide, c'est le conseil qui
[1:28:47] décide.
[1:28:48] - Est-ce que c'est légal?
[1:28:49] - Ça le gala, oui. Si on vote
[1:28:51] ça, ça légal.
[1:28:53] (rires)
[1:28:55] Merci!
[1:29:28] I got a letter in the mail,
[1:29:31] because my house is being
[1:29:32] renovated. It was sold, and
[1:29:34] being renovated. Also what I
[1:29:36] want to do is find out what the
[1:29:38] exact renovations are.
[1:29:46] If something like that happens.
[1:29:50] I don't want to cause a problem
[1:29:51] for the new owner. But I
[1:29:53] certainly don't want something
[1:29:54] in my bedroom window.
[1:30:19] They did send me an email with a
[1:30:21] plan, but first off, it's tiny.
[1:30:54] >> I called the number on here.
[1:30:57] And they were very polite, very
[1:31:01] helpful, I guess. They told me I
[1:31:03] had to come here tonight.
[1:31:16] It's said to come here tonight
[1:31:23] And they did suddenly a copy of
[1:31:24] the plans, and they said the
[1:31:26] extension is marked in red. I
[1:31:28] have it on my phone.
[1:31:44] I just like to know what's
[1:31:46] happening. Because this is right
[1:31:48] next to my house.
[1:32:04] I don't think is a proper way
[1:32:07] for the citizens to be dealt.
[1:32:09] With
[1:32:30] You ask questions, you received
[1:32:32] the plan. Do you reach out
[1:32:34] against you have more
[1:32:36] information?
[1:33:20] You may be losing something from
[1:33:23] your house. It's why they come
[1:33:26] to the city council to express
[1:33:27] your concern during the project.
[1:33:31] But you receive the plan and you
[1:33:33] can ask the urban planning
[1:33:34] department and address a concern
[1:33:36] there and see if you can answer
[1:33:38] or not. So probably the question
[1:33:40] you have, it cannot answer.
[1:33:43] >> I just want someone to
[1:33:44] explain the plan so there's not
[1:33:45] a window right here looking in
[1:33:47] my bedroom. My bedroom window
[1:33:49] faces that property. I don't
[1:33:50] want somebody looking in my
[1:33:52] bedroom window.
[1:33:54] >> Okay, but I don't have the
[1:33:55] plan of your house now.
[1:33:56] >> But you need the layout of
[1:33:58] the house.
[1:33:59] >> So who do I go see?
[1:34:01] >> You should go to Planning.
[1:34:03] >> I was told to come here.
[1:34:04] >> What you should do is try and
[1:34:07] find that.
[1:34:09] >> Just to clarify, what he's
[1:34:11] talking about is item 17.1 of
[1:34:13] the agenda, is considered a
[1:34:14] minor exemption request to
[1:34:16] consider your property at 155.
[1:34:17] So that's what he was told to
[1:34:18] come here, to address the minor
[1:34:20] exemption.
[1:34:35] >> If we could do it another
[1:34:36] day, I'm fine. Est-ce que
[1:34:37] quelqu'un peut l'expliquer au
[1:34:38] monsieur? I don't need to do it
[1:34:39] tonight.
[1:34:40] >> They are voting the minor
[1:34:41] exemption tonight.
[1:34:42] >> Oka. So my vote is no until
[1:34:44] you explain it till me.
[1:34:51] >> The minor exemption with her,
[1:34:52] so she can explain to you. I can
[1:34:55] tell you the nature of the minor
[1:34:57] exemption. So it's to permit an
[1:34:59] extension with the funds setback
[1:35:02] of 10.74 metres rather than the
[1:35:05] minimum required of 12 metres.
[1:35:08] And the secondary setback of
[1:35:12] 6.13 metres, rather than the
[1:35:14] minimum required of 7.5 metres.
[1:35:18] >> I have that information here.
[1:35:21] >> I want to see a plan, so I
[1:35:22] can tell if there is going to be
[1:35:23] a window in my bedroom.
[1:35:29] >> We are not voting.
[1:35:30] >> I have no say in what's built
[1:35:32] next to my house?
[1:35:33] >> We don't know yet what's
[1:35:34] going to be built at this stage.
[1:35:38] 17.4, yes.
[1:35:39] >> You sent me plans, or someone
[1:35:42] sent me a plan. There is no
[1:35:46] numbers, ten point 74 metres or
[1:35:48] six point 13 metres. Anywhere on
[1:35:50] the plan. There's lots of blue
[1:35:53] lines that are not part of the
[1:35:55] original house.
[1:35:57] >> If we don't have minor
[1:36:00] exemptions, if we don't have
[1:36:03] anything under the minor
[1:36:05] exemptions about windows, it's
[1:36:07] because the window is
[1:36:08] complaining with the byline
[1:36:09] place. So unfortunately, we know
[1:36:11] the neighbour doesn't have a say
[1:36:13] about the project, if it's
[1:36:15] complaining by the bylaw.
[1:36:17] >> What are all the blue lines
[1:36:18] on the drive? That's new
[1:36:20] construction, is it not?
[1:36:22] >> We'd have to look at it. But
[1:36:26] potentially, it could be. It's
[1:36:29] okay, it's not our job, really,
[1:36:31] to be doing this now.
[1:36:33] >> They told me to come here.
[1:36:35] >> Okay, but that's for the
[1:36:37] exemption, as Councillor pointed
[1:36:38] out. But that's not for the
[1:36:40] specific plan of the home. Now,
[1:36:43] for, meet the understanding of
[1:36:44] the specific plan of the home,
[1:36:45] you should have access to at
[1:36:47] some point. So could you --
[1:36:49] >> I just got word of this last
[1:36:51] week. I'm on my holidays now.
[1:36:53] >> So I would recommend that you
[1:36:54] write and try and access to get
[1:36:57] more information and keep us
[1:36:58] posted as to your successes in
[1:37:00] this regard.
[1:37:01] >> And then if the minor
[1:37:02] exemption goes through, I'm out
[1:37:03] of luck?
[1:37:04] >> The minor exemption, they
[1:37:05] have no bearing on those blue
[1:37:07] lines. We don't really know.
[1:37:09] >> Mister Mayor, we have the
[1:37:11] space at 17.4. And this is an
[1:37:14] extension in the front of the
[1:37:16] house.
[1:37:17] >> Okay, but what about the
[1:37:18] double garage and the neck on
[1:37:20] the back and there's something
[1:37:21] by the front door. Those lines
[1:37:23] all over the place.
[1:37:27] >> Are you on the right or the
[1:37:29] left?
[1:37:30] >> I'm behind it. It's on the
[1:37:31] corner of Lakeshore and land
[1:37:34] stone gardens. I'm on Lansdowne.
[1:37:38] I would've gladly come to the
[1:37:40] office, had someone explained it
[1:37:41] to me. And probably walked away,
[1:37:43] thanks. But at this point, I'm
[1:37:46] --
[1:37:47] >> I can see this as being an
[1:37:49] optimal way with dealing with
[1:37:51] this. I suggest that we should
[1:37:54] find a better way of dealing
[1:37:55] with this. And you need more
[1:37:57] information on, as I suggested.
[1:37:59] So I would write to try and
[1:38:02] glean more information as to
[1:38:03] what is in your impending
[1:38:05] future, and continue to do so
[1:38:07] and alert us if you've not been
[1:38:10] given the information.
[1:38:11] >> This guy wants to build next
[1:38:13] week. He's got a beam in the
[1:38:16] backyard, and I hope he can. I
[1:38:18] really do. But he's got a beam
[1:38:20] in the backyard that's 25 feet
[1:38:21] long, and --
[1:38:23] >> We'll, sir, I don't know, how
[1:38:26] should we proceed going forward?
[1:38:27] I don't think this is the
[1:38:29] appropriate forum for what we
[1:38:31] are doing right now. We are into
[1:38:32] the specifics of a house plan,
[1:38:35] which none of us have seen and
[1:38:37] isn't in front of us. I don't
[1:38:38] really think this is the place
[1:38:39] for it. Not that you're at any
[1:38:41] fault here, I just feel that --
[1:38:46] not in front of us right now, so
[1:38:47] that we can answer the
[1:38:49] gentlemen.
[1:38:53] >> How many windows are they're
[1:38:55] currently at the back of the
[1:38:56] house? It's just because I have
[1:38:57] a plan, but I don't know what it
[1:38:59] looks like before or where your
[1:39:00] house is situated.
[1:39:02] >> My house, there's only one
[1:39:04] window facing that house. It's
[1:39:06] my bedroom. I'm not really
[1:39:09] concerned about specifically
[1:39:11] that, it's the fact that
[1:39:12] something is going to be changed
[1:39:13] their. I just want to know
[1:39:14] what's going on.
[1:39:15] >> Mister Mayor, may I comment?
[1:39:17] I think the reason that you are
[1:39:19] told to hear us at Council,
[1:39:22] because there's a minor
[1:39:23] exemption. So what is out of the
[1:39:24] ordinary here is the setbacks. A
[1:39:26] member of the pack committee, so
[1:39:27] we review those with Councillor
[1:39:30] Cohen. So we are here for the
[1:39:31] minor exemption, so we reviewed
[1:39:32] the file, we said maybe it's a
[1:39:36] justification, might be a corner
[1:39:37] lot or whatever else. But
[1:39:39] everything else that has to do
[1:39:40] with the project and forming of
[1:39:43] bylaws. So we don't really look
[1:39:44] at where our window is. We are
[1:39:47] conscious of having an 80-foot
[1:39:49] window staring in to the bedroom
[1:39:51] and the bathroom, but that you
[1:39:52] can definitely either reach out
[1:39:53] to your council or go to urban
[1:39:55] planning and say I would like to
[1:39:56] see their plans.
[1:39:57] >> Why didn't last week when I
[1:39:59] calls?
[1:40:01] >> I fully doubt that. The fact
[1:40:02] that they told you to come here,
[1:40:03] there was obviously -- they
[1:40:05] should've told you to come here.
[1:40:06] They told you to come here to
[1:40:07] address the minor exemption. But
[1:40:09] they should have given you the
[1:40:10] information you required when
[1:40:11] you are there. I think that's
[1:40:13] where you have to go, because
[1:40:14] none of us can answer that
[1:40:15] question here right now.
[1:40:19] >> That's pretty much what I was
[1:40:20] saying to. It would probably be
[1:40:23] your best to re-attempt to
[1:40:25] contact urban planning. Get more
[1:40:27] information.
[1:40:28] >> So I came in here for nothing
[1:40:30] today?
[1:40:31] >> You've learned some
[1:40:32] information, and so have we.
[1:40:33] >> But I was here when I made
[1:40:34] the call. It could've gone to
[1:40:35] urban planning than.
[1:40:38] >> I apologize. Let's get to the
[1:40:41] bottom of it, I apologize. I
[1:40:44] sense that there has been
[1:40:46] potentially some
[1:40:47] miscommunication here. And we
[1:40:49] will try to deal with that
[1:40:50] moving forward.
[1:40:51] >> It's been education, thank
[1:40:53] you. Can I just say one other
[1:40:54] little thing?
[1:40:57] >> Okay. Sorry, your subsequent
[1:41:00] question, sir?
[1:41:02] >> They're talking about voting
[1:41:03] on it tonight.
[1:41:04] >> It will be voted on tonight,
[1:41:07] depending on --
[1:41:08] >> He is talking about this --
[1:41:11] >> We can meet with you after to
[1:41:13] explain, so that you didn't make
[1:41:14] your trip for nothing. We can
[1:41:15] meet with you to just confirm
[1:41:17] what they had said about the
[1:41:18] windows.
[1:41:19] >> My other little question is
[1:41:20] there's a number of houses that
[1:41:21] are vacant in our area, they've
[1:41:23] been sold. That people have been
[1:41:25] taking them over, I don't know
[1:41:26] if they're waiting on permits or
[1:41:27] what. But the cross is this
[1:41:29] long. Is there not something the
[1:41:31] city can do about that? 1:55
[1:41:37] Lakeshore's -- public security.
[1:41:42] >> We have a bylaw.
[1:41:46] >> But nobody does anything
[1:41:47] about it.
[1:41:49] >> They will send somebody.
[1:41:53] >> That has worked in the past,
[1:41:54] Mr. Michael.
[1:42:05] >> Good evening. What's being
[1:42:07] done about the funeral home that
[1:42:10] burned to the ground, if it's
[1:42:13] still standing, and obese, or
[1:42:15] why is it still standing?
[1:42:16] >> That's a very good question.
[1:42:18] That's caught in an insurance
[1:42:20] quagmire. And we don't own it,
[1:42:23] and the whole economics of that
[1:42:25] settlement and the
[1:42:26] reconstruction of that building
[1:42:27] is based on insurance. And we
[1:42:30] are waiting on the insurance
[1:42:31] company's decision as to how
[1:42:32] that will move forward.
[1:42:34] >> Will they can sit on their
[1:42:36] hands for three or four years
[1:42:37] and it's going to be staying
[1:42:38] there all that time.
[1:42:39] >> Well, I hope not. Because it
[1:42:41] certainly -- it's not in their
[1:42:43] interest to do so. It will
[1:42:44] dilapidated and collapse and
[1:42:46] cost more. I don't understand
[1:42:47] specifically why it's taking so
[1:42:49] long. Do we have any news on
[1:42:51] that? Any update on that one??
[1:42:53] >> We are working to issuing the
[1:42:56] permits. It's because the owner,
[1:43:00] the company is in the USA. It's
[1:43:04] quite complicated to receive all
[1:43:05] the payment and all of the
[1:43:07] signatures that we need. But we
[1:43:08] are working pretty hard to
[1:43:10] ensure that permit very soon.
[1:43:13] >> Thank you. One last question.
[1:43:15] What are we going to do the
[1:43:17] white path between proper can
[1:43:20] and will stand? Are you waiting
[1:43:22] until the construction has
[1:43:25] finished? That's a continuation.
[1:43:30] >> Yes, I believe so, yes.
[1:43:32] That's exactly it.
[1:43:35] >> So, when?
[1:43:36] >> When the construction is
[1:43:39] finished. I can't give you an
[1:43:42] exact date, I'm not building it.
[1:43:44] >> So when Cartier west one is
[1:43:46] done, it will happen? Thank you.
[1:43:57] - Période des questions. >> Yes?
[1:44:01] Okay. Clara Freeman and Mark --
[1:44:11] okay. Do we have time? How are
[1:44:17] we doing, timewise?
[1:44:21] >> I will be quick as well.
[1:44:22] >> Five minutes? Okay.
[1:44:24] >> Good evening, Clara, from an
[1:44:26] owner of 16 golf. I just wanted
[1:44:28] to bring a project that I'm
[1:44:29] looking at to your attention,
[1:44:32] especially to the Councillors
[1:44:33] who sit on the P.A.C.. I
[1:44:35] actually submitted on the 10th
[1:44:37] of May, ready from at least my
[1:44:41] impression, which was almost two
[1:44:42] months ago, a proposal to
[1:44:45] reconvert 16 Gulf into a duplex.
[1:44:48] It was a duplex a number of
[1:44:50] years ago, there are obviously
[1:44:52] deeds to go along with this. 16
[1:44:55] golf sits under you create.
[1:44:58] Again, I'm requesting a
[1:45:00] reconversion. I think, and
[1:45:01] obviously was very timely today
[1:45:03] with all of the points that were
[1:45:05] coming up about the obvious
[1:45:07] housing crisis that we have. And
[1:45:08] really trying to create
[1:45:10] reasonably sized multi
[1:45:12] residential units. It's
[1:45:14] something, like I said, that I
[1:45:16] have submitted. And I'm hoping
[1:45:18] to get your favourable
[1:45:20] consideration on that. Just
[1:45:21] maybe one other quick point, in
[1:45:24] new pH, there are 11 properties
[1:45:28] four of which are already
[1:45:29] duplexes. And again, the bottom
[1:45:31] line is I'm requesting a
[1:45:33] reconversion, and as soon as we
[1:45:34] can do that I was really happy
[1:45:35] to hear that you're pushing hard
[1:45:37] to get permits out as quickly as
[1:45:39] possible. It's -- it makes a
[1:45:41] huge difference on how quickly
[1:45:42] the city can move. I think it
[1:45:44] comes up time and time again in
[1:45:46] Québec as well, that obviously
[1:45:47] development is much slowed down,
[1:45:49] based on all of the hurdles we
[1:45:50] have to go through. I understand
[1:45:52] it, I appreciate it, I think we
[1:45:54] need to do it in a thoughtful
[1:45:56] manner. But we do need to
[1:45:57] expedite these things. If there
[1:45:59] was a question to go along with
[1:46:00] this, I'm hoping for your
[1:46:03] support on this. I don't know if
[1:46:04] this is something, obviously,
[1:46:06] that you can speak to tonight.
[1:46:09] But I understand it husk you go
[1:46:11] to peace see first.
[1:46:13] >> That's correct, but just
[1:46:14] personally, I'm a huge fan of
[1:46:17] duplexes. And if it was already
[1:46:18] zoned, I can't see they're being
[1:46:20] -- I can't speak too much in
[1:46:22] advance, but I think in the
[1:46:24] village it's optimal. It's now
[1:46:28] fully residential? There's no
[1:46:30] commercial in? It
[1:46:31] >> Is correct, no.
[1:46:33] >> I think things bode well, but
[1:46:35] I can't decide for myself
[1:46:37] personally. I can tell you that
[1:46:38] that is a desirable outcome for
[1:46:41] that zoning, in my opinion. And
[1:46:44] buddy else?
[1:46:46] >> Just, I'll be careful what I
[1:46:48] say. But it's going to the
[1:46:51] process right now. I can't say
[1:46:54] if I've seen it or not seen it
[1:46:55] but I think it is going through
[1:46:56] the process. Sorry for the
[1:46:59] delay, there's just the time. As
[1:47:04] mayor Thomas said, accessible
[1:47:07] dwelling units, conversions in
[1:47:08] last weeks, that's part of the
[1:47:10] future that we have to address.
[1:47:11] >> Awesome, super. Thank you
[1:47:13] much.
[1:47:14] >> Thank you. Mark?
[1:47:23] >> Good evening, my names Mark,
[1:47:28] I'm terrace where. I guess I'm
[1:47:35] remiss, I haven't done my due
[1:47:36] diligence. I only found out
[1:47:37] about this on Friday. Like the
[1:47:42] gentlemen there, I came back
[1:47:43] from the country in order to
[1:47:44] attend this meeting. I have a
[1:47:46] question, and based on that
[1:47:47] question, maybe I could be done
[1:47:50] and that I will just discuss
[1:47:51] this with the other gentleman
[1:47:52] that was in the other tariffs.
[1:47:54] Can anyone hear me all right?
[1:47:58] There are setbacks on all
[1:48:00] properties, and there are two
[1:48:02] terraces on Hymus, on Monday and
[1:48:05] then go, have property there.
[1:48:09] And then there's about six or
[1:48:11] seven homes on Aberdeen or
[1:48:13] brigantine, rather, that have
[1:48:14] setbacks also and properties.
[1:48:17] Now, where is this lineal path
[1:48:19] going to be running exactly?
[1:48:22] Between those properties?
[1:48:24] Because they've got seven or
[1:48:25] eight private backyards that
[1:48:26] have been there since the early
[1:48:28] 80s when those buildings were
[1:48:29] built, and then you've got 24
[1:48:34] patios in the back of the town
[1:48:36] houses that are on the other
[1:48:38] side, the north side of
[1:48:40] brigantine. So, how wide is this
[1:48:43] path going to be?
[1:48:44] >> It's going to be all of the
[1:48:46] city's property.
[1:48:47] >> All on City property?
[1:48:49] >> It's our property line, and
[1:48:51] we will be building a park on
[1:48:55] our property.
[1:48:57] >> Okay, what about the privacy?
[1:48:59] What are you going to do, not
[1:49:01] necessarily for privacy on the
[1:49:02] homes on Raggedy Ann, because
[1:49:04] they've got mature trees. But
[1:49:09] the town homes have pride yoke.
[1:49:12] 400 square foot patios that are
[1:49:16] elevated above the garage
[1:49:18] underneath the homes. They don't
[1:49:19] have mature vegetation, because
[1:49:23] those homes are only 10 to 15
[1:49:25] years old. It is a fence going
[1:49:27] to be put up for privacy?
[1:49:29] >> I believe so. That is my
[1:49:32] under standing. Am I wrong on
[1:49:35] that?
[1:49:37] >> We don't have fans on the
[1:49:39] north side of Brigadoon. Because
[1:49:44] we have an agreement back in
[1:49:47] 2017.
[1:49:49] - Ne l'oubliez pas, passe qu'on
[1:49:50] a les fenêtres au, le deuxième
[1:49:51] étage, ce sont tous de chambre.
[1:49:52] There are all rooms up there.
[1:49:53] You've got to be able to give
[1:49:54] them privacy, to. Because we go
[1:49:56] on the patios, I'm not arguing
[1:49:58] for myself, because I'm in one
[1:50:01] of the side town houses. But I'm
[1:50:03] talking about the people that
[1:50:04] are on the back, and we have 24
[1:50:06] town houses there. And their
[1:50:10] privacy is going to be
[1:50:11] inhibited, unless this lineal
[1:50:14] parkway is on property. And
[1:50:18] constructed in a way that the
[1:50:20] sound does not affect the people
[1:50:22] whose kitchens and two upstairs
[1:50:26] bedrooms face to the backyard.
[1:50:29] That's oil like to say.
[1:50:31] >> It is a bike path. And it's
[1:50:34] on City property, so it's --
[1:50:38] we've seen them all over the
[1:50:40] place. They're not huge areas of
[1:50:41] noise. They don't tend to be
[1:50:44] sources of --
[1:50:45] >> They don't make noise
[1:50:47] themselves, but the people that
[1:50:48] use that may.
[1:50:49] >> But they don't tend to use
[1:50:50] them in a way that makes noise.
[1:50:51] They tend to be riding bicycles.
[1:50:53] >> But they may be riding
[1:50:55] bicycles, if their patrol,
[1:50:56] that's great. If there is a
[1:50:59] period of time when they can be
[1:51:00] used, and its police property,
[1:51:03] fantastic. Thank you very much,
[1:51:04] folks. Thank you for your job,
[1:51:06] folks. I know it's not an easy
[1:51:07] job, all the very best.
[1:51:08] >> Thank, you sir.
[1:51:23] Time is up, okay, time is up.
[1:51:38] >>
[1:51:39] 5.1 Notice of motion and
[1:51:43] filing of a draft By-law
[1:51:44] decreeing a long-term borrowing
[1:51:45] and capital expenditures in the
[1:51:46] amount of $ 4,075,000 for
[1:51:47] professional services and major
[1:51:48] municipal infrastructure works
[1:51:49] in various locations. This
[1:51:50] borrowing bylaw is to finance
[1:51:51] projects such as the repair of
[1:51:52] the sources highway and
[1:51:53] pedestrian overpasses. The
[1:51:54] professional services for the
[1:51:55] construction of an independent
[1:51:56] multi functional overpass, and
[1:51:58] for Highway 40, and a project
[1:52:00] related labour to municipal
[1:52:01] engineering. The amount to be
[1:52:03] financed will be reimbursed by a
[1:52:05] tax levy on the entire
[1:52:07] municipality based on the
[1:52:08] property value of taxable
[1:52:10] buildings over a 20 year period.
[1:52:11] >> Who gives this notice of
[1:52:13] motion?
[1:52:15] >> Eric, district seven. 5.2,
[1:52:22] juste pour vous avertir, je
[1:52:23] voulais en parler un peu...
[1:52:24] est-ce que c'est maintenant ou
[1:52:26] après?
[1:52:27] - C'est comme vous voulez. Je
[1:52:29] peux le décrire ou vous pouvez y
[1:52:31] aller maintenant, c'est comme
[1:52:32] vous le voulez.
[1:52:33] - O.K., Je vais commencer tout
[1:52:34] de suite avec le 5.2 dollar du
[1:52:41] jour de ce soir, la majorité du
[1:52:43] conseil sera maintenant
[1:52:45] introduite au règlement de
[1:52:48] contrôle intérimaire afin
[1:52:50] d'exclure un autre centre
[1:52:52] commercial de notre
[1:52:53] (inaudible)
[1:52:54] de développement. Cela permettra
[1:52:56] la construction d'une autre tour
[1:52:58] de condos dans le quartier
[1:53:00] (inaudible)
[1:53:01] près de ces zones. Je me pose à
[1:53:05] cet amendement. Je ne crois pas
[1:53:07] que nous devrions retirer
[1:53:09] d'autres propriétés tant que les
[1:53:12] consultations publiques et nos
[1:53:15] consultations du plan
[1:53:16] d'urbanisme ne sont pas
[1:53:17] terminées. Le processus de
[1:53:20] consultation publique ne peut
[1:53:22] pas être parfait et j'ai
[1:53:25] également des préoccupations
[1:53:26] quant à la manière dont il a été
[1:53:29] conçu et mis en oeuvre par
[1:53:33] l'administration, mais je
[1:53:34] continue à croire qu'il s'agit
[1:53:36] d'un processus essentiel. C'est
[1:53:38] le seul moyen dont nous
[1:53:40] disposons pour tenter d'informer
[1:53:43] user les règles du jeu. La
[1:53:47] grands promoteurs n'ont pas
[1:53:49] besoin de consultations
[1:53:51] publiques. Celui qui est retiré
[1:53:53] ce soir a pu négocier
[1:53:55] directement son retrait du RCI
[1:53:57] avec les membres du conseil et à
[1:54:00] organiser des personnes... des
[1:54:03] réunions sur son projet au
[1:54:06] Comité d'urbanisme. Au Code
[1:54:09] citoyens les plus ordinaires qui
[1:54:11] peuvent bénéficier des mêmes
[1:54:14] privilèges. Je pense que notre
[1:54:16] victoire peut commence à
[1:54:17] planifier son développement. Au
[1:54:20] cours des huit dernières années,
[1:54:22] notre planification urbaine a
[1:54:24] été décidé par et pour les
[1:54:29] promoteurs. Le modifications
[1:54:31] apportées à nos règlements sur
[1:54:32] le fait des personnes qui ont
[1:54:35] les meilleurs
[1:54:36] (inaudible)
[1:54:37] avec l'hôtel de ville et qui
[1:54:39] obtiennent ce qu'elles veulent
[1:54:41] au cas par cas. Il n'y a jamais
[1:54:44] eu de plan global qui tienne
[1:54:47] compte de nos besoins en matière
[1:54:49] de logement, la capacité de nous
[1:54:53] infrastructures ou de la qualité
[1:54:54] de vie de l'ensemble de notre
[1:54:58] communauté ou qui s'interroge
[1:55:00] sur l'ampleur du développement
[1:55:02] que nous souhaitons réellement.
[1:55:04] Nous pourrons tous constater les
[1:55:10] résultats. De 2017 à 2023,
[1:55:13] Pointe-Claire comptait
[1:55:14] (inaudible)
[1:55:15] du développement résidentiel de
[1:55:16] l'ouest de l'île, même si la
[1:55:19] population ne représente que 15%
[1:55:21] de celle de l'ouest de l'île.
[1:55:24] Pourtant, cette, année nous
[1:55:25] avons commencé avec la
[1:55:28] croissance la plus rapide des
[1:55:29] loyers annoncés dans tout le
[1:55:31] pays, soit 26%. Nous pouvons
[1:55:35] tous constater l'pression
[1:55:39] exercée sur nos infrastructures,
[1:55:42] qu'elle s'agisse de la
[1:55:43] circulation, de l'eau et de la
[1:55:48] pression de l'autre le 18, ou
[1:55:49] des frais d'électricité. Nous
[1:55:54] pouvons aussi voir des quartiers
[1:55:55] qui n'ont pas respecté nos
[1:55:57] programmes déménagement et les
[1:56:03] promesses... comment préserver
[1:56:05] les espaces verts et les
[1:56:07] commerces au premier étage. Il
[1:56:09] faut que cela change. The public
[1:56:23] In order to take another
[1:56:25] commercial property out of our
[1:56:27] development freeze. This will
[1:56:29] allow for another high-rise
[1:56:31] project in the Hermitage
[1:56:33] neighbourhood of Saint-Jean. I
[1:56:35] oppose this amendment, I do
[1:56:37] believe we should be taking any
[1:56:38] more properties out of the RCI
[1:56:40] until public consultations, and
[1:56:41] the revisions of our plan have
[1:56:43] been completed. The public
[1:56:45] consultation process might not
[1:56:46] be perfect, and I also have
[1:56:48] issues with the way it has been
[1:56:50] designed and implemented. But I
[1:56:52] still feel the process to be an
[1:56:54] important one. It's the only way
[1:56:56] we have of trying to level the
[1:56:57] playing field. Developers don't
[1:56:59] need public consultations. The
[1:57:02] one being taken out tonight was
[1:57:03] able to freely negotiate the
[1:57:05] removal from the RCI with
[1:57:06] members of Council and have
[1:57:09] in-person meetings on this
[1:57:10] project with the Planning
[1:57:11] Advisory Committee. No ordinary
[1:57:14] citizen could expect to get the
[1:57:15] same privilege. I also
[1:57:59] Despite being only 15% of its
[1:58:02] population. Yet we began this
[1:58:04] year with the fastest-growing
[1:58:06] advertised rants in the entire
[1:58:08] country. 26%.
[1:58:17] (intervention en anglais)
[1:58:53] When the time is due in August
[1:58:55] or September. I believe it at
[1:58:57] that, I have a lot to say on
[1:58:58] this issue and a lot will be
[1:59:00] sent. So I will do that, thank.
[1:59:02] You
[1:59:03] >> Yes, I would just like to
[1:59:06] specifically speak to this
[1:59:08] process, this project, the
[1:59:10] notion of motion. Because we
[1:59:11] have been listening to the
[1:59:13] citizens, we have public
[1:59:14] consultations, we've had
[1:59:15] workshops, and there are many
[1:59:17] aspects in this -- for example,
[1:59:21] I think he may have left the
[1:59:23] father of
[1:59:30] This project has a grant to be
[1:59:31] able to allow that to happen.
[1:59:33] This project is going to favor
[1:59:36] some public green spaces, public
[1:59:38] access green spaces, have
[1:59:41] favoured green spaces
[1:59:56] With the affordability with the
[1:59:58] grant, it's guaranteed for 20
[2:00:01] years. 16 years, to have better
[2:00:05] rants that are available for the
[2:00:07] citizens of Pointe-Claire. The
[2:00:09] buildings are going to be
[2:00:10] accessible with fully accessible
[2:00:12] to units and additional ones can
[2:00:14] be requested if necessary. We
[2:00:15] talk about accessibility we.
[2:00:31] That is why we are moving
[2:00:33] forward, because it is tracking
[2:00:35] all the boxes that the citizens
[2:00:36] have told us.
[2:00:55] And this we feel is responding
[2:00:57] to the best needs of what
[2:00:59] citizens have told us. It's in
[2:01:02] parallel and in line with all we
[2:01:03] are doing to look at our
[2:01:04] planning bylaws, and it is an
[2:01:06] opportunity to get something
[2:01:07] more affordable that we've
[2:01:08] committed to and that people
[2:01:09] continue to ask us for. Point of
[2:01:12] order, I just want to share with
[2:01:14] you why the decision making is
[2:01:17] that we've moved forward with
[2:01:18] this project. So this is going
[2:01:20] in the direction that we have
[2:01:21] been informed in for the
[2:01:22] majority of the citizens that we
[2:01:24] represent.
[2:01:25] >> So, what the majority of the
[2:01:27] citizens that have told us in
[2:01:30] workshops it is open to
[2:01:32] interpretation.
[2:01:39] What we hope to have a coherent
[2:01:41] organize plan that reflects what
[2:01:43] the citizens have told us, and
[2:01:45] then we use that plan in its
[2:01:46] application to subsequent
[2:01:48] projects. One of the major
[2:01:53] concerns and the citizen's
[2:01:55] consultation process is that
[2:01:57] they were sought the missing
[2:01:59] middle and not high-rise multi
[2:02:00] level development. And that was
[2:02:02] clear in the reports, and yet
[2:02:04] this is a high-rise multi level
[2:02:05] development, which contradicts
[2:02:07] what the majority of the
[2:02:08] citizens in the process told us.
[2:02:10] So, we can interpret that anyway
[2:02:12] we want. But what I would like
[2:02:13] us to do, we'll but -- without
[2:02:34] I just like to say, I'd like to
[2:02:37] thank the councillor for
[2:02:39] clarifying this issue. And not
[2:02:42] making election pitch. Thank
[2:02:44] you.
[2:03:53] I would just like to add that up
[2:03:54] on percent of these rental
[2:03:57] dwellings, rental dwellings, not
[2:03:59] condos, rental dwellings are 15%
[2:04:03] below the average market rate of
[2:04:05] the area, as established by the
[2:04:08] Canadian house of mortgage
[2:04:09] Corporation. So they are giving
[2:04:11] money to the developer to
[2:04:13] subsidized the affordable
[2:04:15] housing on every one of these
[2:04:16] units. Meaning that every one of
[2:04:18] these units will be at least 15%
[2:04:20] below market rate of five and a
[2:04:22] half. Might be 10%. So they're
[2:04:26] actually five and a half for
[2:04:27] families here as well. So I
[2:04:29] approve this motion.
[2:04:31] >> It will be 12 to 13 storeys
[2:04:33] high. 5.3 counts.
[2:04:36] >> 5.3? Notice of motion and
[2:04:38] filing a draft bylaw considering
[2:04:40] the camp expenses of
[2:04:42] (interpreter)
[2:04:44] Council members and
[2:04:45] reimbursement procedures. 5.4
[2:04:46] Public consultation regarding a
[2:04:47] draft By-law amending the
[2:04:49] Construction
[2:04:56] >>
[2:04:57] It's a notice of motion.
[2:04:58] >> Who gives those -- who moves
[2:04:59] this notice of motion?
[2:05:10] 5.4 Assemblée publique de
[2:05:11] consultation concernant un
[2:05:12] projet de Règlement modifiant le
[2:05:13] règlement de construction
[2:05:14] PC-2786. Le projet de règlement
[2:05:15] ne contient aucune disposition
[2:05:16] propre à un règlement
[2:05:17] susceptible d'approbation
[2:05:18] référendaire. En guise de
[2:05:19] rappel, le règlement de
[2:05:22] construction étant plus exigeant
[2:05:23] que le Code de construction du
[2:05:25] Québec, il y a lieu de modifier
[2:05:27] notre Règlement de construction
[2:05:30] PC-2786 afin d'être d'une
[2:05:31] solution de rechange pour la
[2:05:33] construction d'un mur de
[2:05:35] séparation à l'intérieur d'un
[2:05:37] immeuble multi-tenant. Alors,
[2:05:38] les personnes présentes ce soir
[2:05:40] peuvent s'adresser au conseil
[2:05:42] pour ce règlement.
[2:06:05] 6.1 Accorder un soutien
[2:06:06] financier pour un montant total
[2:06:07] de 5000$ à l'association West
[2:06:08] Island Blues Festival. La vente
[2:06:10] des billets sera versé à des
[2:06:12] organismes à but non lucratif,
[2:06:14] la liste des organismes est la
[2:06:18] suivante: Association de la
[2:06:19] communauté noire de l'ouest de
[2:06:21] l'île, alphabétisation sans
[2:06:23] limite et arabo-va.
[2:07:03] 7.1 Déposer et approuver les
[2:07:04] procès-verbaux des réunions du
[2:07:05] comité de circulation du 9 avril
[2:07:06] 2024 et du 14 mai 2024.
[2:07:07] - Alors, pour 7.1?
[2:07:31] 7.3 Déposer le procès-verbal de
[2:07:32] la réunion du 5 juin 2024 du
[2:07:33] Comité consultatif jeunesse.
[2:07:42] 8.1 Autoriser la Ville à prêter
[2:07:43] de l'équipement et/ou des
[2:07:44] emplacements à divers organismes
[2:07:45] pour la tenue d'événements de
[2:07:46] levée de fonds sur le territoire
[2:07:47] de la Ville de Pointe-Claire. La
[2:07:49] ligue de ce Bowl masculin du 22
[2:07:52] au 25 août 2024 pour la levée de
[2:07:55] fonds de la Fondation afin de
[2:07:58] financer l'achat de...
[2:08:00] d'équipements médicales est un
[2:08:02] événement organisé par West
[2:08:05] Island LGBTQ2+ afin de
[2:08:07] promouvoir la diversité et
[2:08:09] l'inclusion.
[2:08:48] 10.1 Déposer la liste des
[2:08:49] amendements budgétaires et le
[2:08:50] registre des chèques pour la
[2:08:51] période du 27 mai 2024 au 20
[2:08:52] juin 2024.
[2:09:25] 10.3 Autoriser la fermeture ou
[2:09:26] le transfert de postes
[2:09:27] budgétaires associés à des
[2:09:28] réserves et des fonds de parcs
[2:09:29] et terrains de jeux pour
[2:09:30] lesquels les projets, travaux ou
[2:09:31] achats d'équipement sont
[2:09:32] complétés ou annulés. L'objectif
[2:09:35] est de permettre que ces sommes
[2:09:36] soient à nouveau disponibles
[2:09:37] pour des projets futurs pour la
[2:09:39] ville. De 10,1 à 10,3.
[2:10:00] 12.2 Approuver la liste des
[2:10:01] changements au personnel par
[2:10:02] décisions non déléguées au 2
[2:10:03] juillet 2024.
[2:10:34] 14.2 Approuver une modification
[2:10:35] au contrat intervenu avec
[2:10:36] ÉMONDAGE ET ABATTAGE DIONNE INC.
[2:10:37] , Pour des travaux
[2:10:38] d'arboriculture à proximité du
[2:10:39] réseau électrique, pour un
[2:10:40] montant de 9544,59$, taxes
[2:10:41] incluses. Les travaux ne
[2:10:46] représentent pas un danger pour
[2:10:47] le réseau de l'Hydro-Québec, ils
[2:10:49] doivent absolument être
[2:10:50] effectués pour minimiser les
[2:10:52] risques et assurer la sécurité
[2:10:53] des biens et des citoyens tout
[2:10:54] en minimisant les bris à la
[2:10:56] propriété privée, c'est-à-dire
[2:10:58] entrée charretière, aménagement,
[2:11:00] toi et Cornish.
[2:11:34] 15.1 Se prévaloir de l'option de
[2:11:35] renouvellement prévue au contrat
[2:11:36] intervenu avec CORPORATION
[2:11:37] KRYPTON SCIEN-TEK INC., Pour la
[2:11:38] période du 1 août 2024 au 31
[2:11:39] juillet 2025, au montant de
[2:11:40] 45856,63$, taxes incluses, pour
[2:11:41] le contrôle hebdomadaire de la
[2:11:42] qualité de l'eau pour les
[2:11:43] piscines du Centre Aquatique et
[2:11:44] du Centre Sportif.
[2:11:51] Le renouvellement de ce contrat
[2:11:53] servira l'optimisation de la
[2:11:54] filtration et de la qualité de
[2:11:55] l'eau des piscines.
[2:12:34] 15.3 Approuver une modification
[2:12:35] au contrat intervenu avec
[2:12:36] CONSTRUCTION CPB INC., Pour des
[2:12:37] travaux d'agrandissement et
[2:12:38] réaménagement des Travaux
[2:12:39] Publics, pour un montant de
[2:12:40] 224533,14$, taxes incluses. Ce
[2:12:45] montant comprend des
[2:12:46] modifications au cours de
[2:12:48] travaux, qui génèrent soit des
[2:12:49] dépenses non prévues ou des
[2:12:51] retraits d'items au bord de
[2:12:52] route pour des travaux non
[2:12:53] requis. Les travaux requis
[2:12:55] touche l'architecture, la
[2:12:56] mécanique, et la structure,
[2:12:57] l'ingénierie civile et
[2:12:59] l'électricité.
[2:13:20] Le calvaire qu'ils Jackets
[2:13:21] virgule quatre.
[2:13:53] 16.1 Octroyer un contrat pour la
[2:13:54] construction d'un sentier
[2:13:55] polyvalent entre les avenues
[2:13:56] Alston et Stillview
[2:13:57] (piste cyclable Brigadoon)
[2:13:58] , à LES ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC.,
[2:14:00] Pour un montant total de
[2:14:01] 1891056,49 $, taxes incluses.
[2:14:07] Dans le cadre du Programme
[2:14:08] d'aide financière au
[2:14:09] développement du transport actif
[2:14:11] dans le périmètre urbain, la
[2:14:12] Ville de Pointe-Claire est
[2:14:14] éprouvée pour une subvention de
[2:14:15] 715000 dollars pour ce projet
[2:14:17] spécifiquement. Ce chantier sera
[2:14:19] dans la compte unité de la
[2:14:20] piste, qui commence de l'avenue
[2:14:22] à Austin et c'était jusqu'à
[2:14:24] belle mort.
[2:15:04] 16.3 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:15:05] des services professionnels pour
[2:15:06] des travaux de construction
[2:15:07] d'une passerelle
[2:15:08] multifonctionnelle pour piétons
[2:15:09] et cyclistes au-dessus de
[2:15:10] l'autoroute 40, à ARUP CANADA
[2:15:11] INC., Pour un montant total de
[2:15:12] 2214487,49$, taxes incluses.
[2:15:20] Pour accorder un contrat
[2:15:22] concernant les services
[2:15:23] professionnels pour des plans et
[2:15:24] devis pour une passerelle
[2:15:26] indépendante de mobilité active
[2:15:27] traversant l'autoroute 40 dans
[2:15:29] l'axe de la rue Halton, afin de
[2:15:31] faciliter l'accès à la future
[2:15:32] station suprême. Le contrat est
[2:15:35] divisé en plusieurs phases. La
[2:15:37] première étape consiste à
[2:15:38] élaborer différents scénarios
[2:15:41] conceptuelle, élaborer un
[2:15:42] échéancier d'élaboration selon
[2:15:44] un concept de choisie, ainsi que
[2:15:45] des estimations budgétaires de
[2:15:48] classes des. Le conseil pourra
[2:15:50] prendre la décision de
[2:15:51] poursuivre ou non le mandat
[2:15:53] suite à cette première phase,
[2:15:55] mais le contrat doit être
[2:15:57] octroyé dans son intégralité ce
[2:15:59] soir.
[2:16:04] - Pour 16 points trois?
[2:18:26] - Pour les mêmes raisons je n'ai
[2:18:27] pas besoin de les expliquer,
[2:18:29] mais je crois qu'on n'est pas
[2:18:30] prêt pour ça. Ça peut attendre.
[2:18:33] Il y a d'autres priorités. On
[2:18:36] n'est tout simplement pas prêt.
[2:18:38] On ne va pas appeler quelque
[2:18:40] chose qui vaut peut-être 20
[2:18:42] millions et quand la poussière
[2:18:44] va avoir retomber, ça va être 30
[2:18:46] millions. On n'a pas d'études à
[2:18:48] savoir combien de gens vont se
[2:18:51] servir. Moi aussi pour ces
[2:18:53] raisons, je vais voter contre.
[2:19:38] 16.5 Approuver une modification
[2:19:39] au contrat intervenu avec GROUPE
[2:19:40] LML LTÉE, pour le remplacement
[2:19:41] des coffrets d'éclairage sur le
[2:19:42] boulevard Saint-Jean, pour un
[2:19:43] montant de 1514,22 $, taxes
[2:19:44] incluses.
[2:19:55] La Ville demande à
[2:19:59] l'entrepreneur d'installer un
[2:20:01] système de mise à la terre, si
[2:20:03] j'de Malte pour la nouvelle
[2:20:05] base.
[2:20:43] 16.7 Approuver une modification
[2:20:44] au contrat intervenu avec LES
[2:20:45] ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC., Pour le
[2:20:47] remplacement de la bordure,
[2:20:48] réfection des sentiers et de
[2:20:49] l'escalier menant au sous-sol du
[2:20:50] chalet du terrain de Boulingrin,
[2:20:51] pour un montant de 11181,32$,
[2:20:53] taxes incluses. Le montant
[2:20:58] correspond au remplacement du
[2:21:00] système d'irrigation existant
[2:21:01] raison avec un conflit avec la
[2:21:06] bordure en béton.
[2:21:30] 16.9 Approuver une modification
[2:21:31] au contrat intervenu avec
[2:21:32] 9190-8673 QUÉBEC INC.
[2:21:33] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSENEIGE INC.)
[2:21:34] , Pour la réfection du terrain
[2:21:35] de tennis et de pickleball au
[2:21:36] parc Northview, pour un montant
[2:21:37] de 850,82$, taxes incluses. La
[2:21:43] modification est demandée afin
[2:21:44] de permettre la réalisation de
[2:21:46] travaux pluviaux sont
[2:21:48] contraintes. Il faudra battre
[2:21:49] les sommes qui sont en conflit
[2:21:51] avec la bordure pluviales.
[2:21:55] - Pour 16,6 à 16,9.
[2:22:35] 16.11 Approuver une entente à
[2:22:36] intervenir avec le Ministère des
[2:22:37] Transports et de la Mobilité
[2:22:38] durable concernant l'approbation
[2:22:39] de l'aide financière de 485 000
[2:22:40] $ reçue dans le cadre du
[2:22:41] « Programme d'aide financière au
[2:22:42] développement des transports
[2:22:43] actifs dans les périmètres
[2:22:44] urbains
[2:22:45] (TAPU)
[2:22:46] » pour le projet d'aménagement
[2:22:47] d'un corridor cyclable et d'un
[2:22:48] sentier piétonnier en zone
[2:22:49] scolaire sur l'avenue
[2:22:50] Winthrop entre le boulevard
[2:22:52] Hymus et l'avenue Jubilee
[2:22:53] Square.
[2:22:58] Le programme vise à intensifier
[2:23:00] la mise en place
[2:23:02] d'infrastructures et de services
[2:23:03] de transport qui favorise les
[2:23:05] actif au milieu urbain, et plus
[2:23:07] spécifiquement développé des
[2:23:08] réseau piétonnier et cyclable
[2:23:11] efficace concurrentielles et
[2:23:12] complémentaires afin d'améliorer
[2:23:13] la sécurité et la quiétude des
[2:23:15] piétons et des cyclistes.
[2:23:56] 16.13 Approuver une entente à
[2:23:57] intervenir avec Hydro-Québec
[2:23:58] concernant la contribution
[2:23:59] financière d'Hydro-Québec à la
[2:24:00] Ville dans le cadre de la
[2:24:01] réalisation du projet
[2:24:02] d'installation des bornes de
[2:24:03] recharge publiques.
[2:24:05] L'entente est pour le versement
[2:24:07] d'une contribution financière
[2:24:08] pour l'installation de bornes de
[2:24:10] recharge publiques. Le montant
[2:24:12] de la contribution accordée par
[2:24:13] Hydro-Québec ne pourra excéder
[2:24:15] le montant maximal de 12000
[2:24:17] dollars par vol de cinq ou 24000
[2:24:22] dollars par borne double.
[2:25:34] Les personnes présentes peuvent
[2:25:35] s'adresser au conseil concernant
[2:25:36] les items 17.1 à 17.3
[2:25:46] 17.1 Considérer une demande de
[2:25:47] dérogation mineure concernant la
[2:25:48] propriété située au 155, chemin
[2:25:49] du Bord-Du-Lac-Lakeshore. Pour
[2:25:51] permettre un agrandissement avec
[2:25:52] une marge avant de 10,74 mètres,
[2:25:55] plutôt que le minimum requis de
[2:25:56] 12 mètres et une marge avant
[2:25:58] secondaire de 6,13 mètres,
[2:26:00] plutôt que le minimum requis de
[2:26:01] 7,5 mètres.
[2:26:19] - 17,1 à 17,3.
[2:26:36] 17.4 Considérer les plans
[2:26:37] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:26:38] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:26:39] propriété située au 155, chemin
[2:26:40] du Bord-du-LacLakeshore pour un
[2:26:42] agrandissement.
[2:26:52] 17.6 Considérer les plans
[2:26:53] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:26:54] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:26:55] propriété située au 99, avenue
[2:26:58] Cedar concernant l'entrée
[2:27:00] charretière.
[2:27:11] 17.8 Considérer les plans
[2:27:12] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:27:13] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:27:14] propriété située au 5, avenue
[2:27:16] Perrier pour un agrandissement.
[2:27:43] 17.10 Considérer les plans
[2:27:44] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:27:45] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:27:46] propriété située au 12, avenue
[2:27:48] Salisbury concernant le
[2:27:51] modification des plans
[2:27:52] préalablement approuvés.
[2:28:04] 17,9 à 17,11.
[2:28:18] 17.12 Considérer une demande
[2:28:19] pour un projet particulier de
[2:28:20] construction, de modification ou
[2:28:21] d'occupation d'un immeuble
[2:28:22] (PPCMOI)
[2:28:23] au 6, avenue Golf autorisant un
[2:28:24] bâtiment à usage mixte dans la
[2:28:25] zone résidentielle Up8
[2:28:30] .
[2:30:04] 19. Il s'agit d'autoriser et
[2:30:06] d'approuver la demande à être
[2:30:08] présentée par le conseiller
[2:30:09] Brett Cowen, district huit, au
[2:30:12] directeur de l'état civil afin
[2:30:13] qu'ils puissent être désignés à
[2:30:15] titre de célébrant compétents
[2:30:17] pour célébrer des mariages ou
[2:30:19] des unions civiles sur le
[2:30:20] territoire de la Ville de
[2:30:21] Pointe-Claire pour la durée de
[2:30:22] son mandat.
[2:31:22] - Monsieur Bissonnette veut
[2:31:23] corriger quelque chose.
[2:32:02] - En, alors vous votez pour le
[2:32:04] refus?