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Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs.

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Bienvenue à la séance ordinaire

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du 1er octobre 2024 est.

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C'est avec regret que nous avons

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appris le décès d'un employé

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retraité à l'incriminer en date

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du 17 septembre dernier. Il a

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travaillé comme cols bleus à la

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Ville de Pointe-Claire pendant

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28 ans jusqu'à sa retraite en

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2017. Nous offrons toutes nos

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condoléances à sa famille et ses

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amis. Allen cream or worked as a

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blue collar worker for the City

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of Pointe-Claire for 28 years

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until his retirement in 2017. We

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offer our condolences to his

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family and friends. Nous avons

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appris le décès d'un ancien

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conseiller municipal, monsieur

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Denis Francis Smith le 18

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septembre à l'âge de 74 ans. Il

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a représenté les districts sept

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de 2005 à 2017. Nous allons lui

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rendre hommage à la prochaine

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séance du conseil. Nous tenons a

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bien souligné son importante

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contribution à la Ville de

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Pointe-Claire. We have learned

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of the passing of former

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municipal councillor Mr. Denis

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Francis Smith on September 18th,

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at the age of 74.

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He represented district seven

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Northview from 2005 to 2017. We

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will be paying tribute to him at

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the next council meeting. We

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will highlight his important

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contribution to the City of

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Pointe-Claire. Comme nous sommes

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à l'approche de la saison

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hivernale nous ou... nous vous

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informons que les dernières

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collecte d'encombrant de matelas

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et sommier et trois découle

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semblent très s'est vaquent

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Huron au mois d'octobre. Voici

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l'horaire des collectes. Le 2

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octobre, secteur à: matelas et

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sommier. Le 3 octobre secteurs

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octobre: secteur A et B

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encombrant. Le 19 octobre:

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l'écocentre de la cour des

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Travaux publics. Les branches

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seront ramassés par les équipes

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des Travaux publics sur une base

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régulière jusqu'au 31 octobre.

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Il n'est pas nécessaire d'en

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faire la demande. La collecte de

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feuilles aura lieu les lundis à

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tous les deux semaines dès le 7

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octobre entre 7 heures et 18

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heures. Alors tes journées de

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collecte, vous pourrez déposer

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vos contenants et sac des

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feuilles en papier en bordure de

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rue. Toutes ces informations se

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retrouvent sur notre site Web.

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As we approach the winter

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season, we would like to inform

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you that the last collections of

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wood and bulky items, to

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mattresses and box springs and

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three, ecocentre, will take

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place in October.

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The upcoming collections go as

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follows. October 2nd, sector a

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mattresses and box springs.

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October 3rd, sector be,

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mattresses and box springs.

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October 9th, sector A and B,

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bulky items. October 19th, the

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eco centre at the public works

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yard. Branches will be collected

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by the public works teams on a

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regular basis until October

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31st. There is no need to call

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the city for this collection. À

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la suite de plus abondante de la

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tempête d'habits

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pour faire suite à la tempête du

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9 août dernier qui a laissé ses

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traces dans les immeubles de la

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ville et chez plusieurs citoyens

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et citoyennes de Pointe-Claire

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et partout au Québec, je

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souhaite simplement partager

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avec vous quelques éléments

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d'information que nous sommes en

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train de regrouper à la ville.

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Leaf collections will take place

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on Mondays every two weeks

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starting on October 7th between

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7 am and six PM. On collection

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days, leave your containers and

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or paper bags at the curb. This

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information can all be found on

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our website.

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Les événements nous ont surpris.

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Nous savions que nous attendions

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des pluies abondantes mais nous

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ne savions pas que ces pluies

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tomberait dans un si court laps

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de temps. Ces précipitations

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rapides et intenses sont

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essentiellement à la base des

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problèmes survenus.

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Présentement, nos équipes

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prévoit les plans d'urgence pour

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mieux préparer la ville à une

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prochaine urgence climatique et

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pour mieux protéger nos

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immeubles publics. Nous allons

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aussi mettre de l'avant un plan

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de communication qui viendra

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départager les responsabilités

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de la ville et celle des

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citoyens dans le cas de ces

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épisodes de crise climatique.

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Ces plan viendra donner des

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conseils et des informations aux

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personnes qui pourraient être

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affectées par des nouvelles

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intempéries. Nous devons mieux

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nous préparer et c'est notre

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volonté de vous accompagner dans

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cette préparation.

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To follow up on the storm of

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August 9th, which left its mark

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on the cities buildings and on

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many citizens of Pointe-Claire

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and throughout Québec, I would

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simply like to share information

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that we are currently in the

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process of compiling for

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residents. We know we are

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expecting heavy rainfall but we

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did not know it would fall in

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such a short period of time. The

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rapid and intensity of the

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rainfall is essentially the

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source of the problems that have

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arisen. Our teams are currently

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reviewing emergency plans to

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better prepare the city for a

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next weather emergency, and also

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to better protect our public

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buildings. We will also be

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putting forward a communication

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plan that will explain and

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separate the responsibilities of

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the City from those of citizens.

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related danger. This plan will

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provide advice and information

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to all those affected by a

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future weather emergency. We all

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need to be better prepared and

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that is exactly what the City

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wants to help you do. Bris

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d'aqueduc majeur. Vendredi soir

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dernier, nous avons eu un bris

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d'aqueduc important d'conduite

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de 24 pouces. Plusieurs facteurs

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ont contribué à ce bris. À ce

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moment-ci, les travailleurs

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d'inspections sont terminés. Nos

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équipes collaborent avec les

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équipes de la Ville de Montréal,

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car il s'agit d'une conduite

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sous la responsabilité de

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l'agglomération. Ils sont à

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l'étape de là-bas ration du plan

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pour les réparations. Nos

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principales préoccupations était

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de redonner l'accès à l'eau

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potable à nos citoyens. À ce

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jour, une seule adresse n'a pas

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accès à l'eau. Nous devrons

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mettre sur pied une solution

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temporaire. La durée des travaux

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est à être déterminé. Nous avons

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eu un deuxième bris ce week-end

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qui a été réparé dès le

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lendemain. L'équipe des Travaux

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publics à travailler fort et je

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tiens à les remercier

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chaleureusement pour leur

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disponibilité et la qualité de

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leur travail.

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Last Friday evening, we had a

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major water break on a 24 inch

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pipe. Several factors

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contributed to this situation.

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is being completed. Our teams

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are working with the crews from

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the City of Montréal as this

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pipe is under the responsibility

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of the agglomeration. They are

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in the process of drawing up a

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plan for the repairs. Our main

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concern was to restore access to

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drinking water for our citizens.

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has no access to water. We are

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working on a temporary solution.

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The duration of the work is to

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be determined. We had a

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secondary water main break over

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the weekend, which was repaired

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the next day. The public works

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employees worked very hard and I

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would like to thank them for

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their availability and the

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quality of their work. They were

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there from the beginning it

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happened to the end, and

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nonstop. It was truly admirable.

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Action de grâces, horaires des

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services municipaux. En raison

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de la fête de l'Action de grâce

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les bureaux administratifs de la

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Ville de Pointe-Claire un et

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deux la bibliothèque publique et

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trois le Centre culturel Stewart

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Roy sera fermé le lundi 14

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octobre. Pour qu'on s'...

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consultez les horaires du centre

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aquatique de l'aréna

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est du centre sportif nous

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invitons à consulter la section

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sport et loisirs du site Web de

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la ville. Veuillez prendre en

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note qu'à compter de mardi le 15

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octobre, l'hôtel de ville et les

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services municipaux seront

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ouverts du lundi au vendredi,

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dès 8 heures 30 à 16 heures 30.

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Due to the Thanksgiving holiday,

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the City of Pointe-Claire's

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administrative offices, as well

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as the public library and

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Stewart Hall cultural centre,

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will be closed on Monday,

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October 14th.

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For specific schedules for the

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Bob-Birnie arena, aquatic

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centre, or excuse me, the

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Bob-Birnie aquatic centre and

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arena, and the Olive-Urquhart

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Sports Centre, please consult

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the sports and recreation

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section of the City's website.

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October 15th, City Hall and the

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administrative services will be

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a.m. to 4:30 PM. Now, before we

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proceed to question period, we

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should probably begin with

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Councillor reports. Let's start

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with district eight, Councillor

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Cowan.

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>> If things degenerate there

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into a regional war, which it

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very well could, we would be on

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the cusp of a global war.

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Bonsoir, je crois qu'on peut

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procéder ce soir, si on

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réfléchit un peu à la situation

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au Moyen-Orient qui est très

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grave et très sérieuse.

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I think people should think

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about that, think about the

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consequences going forward.

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Sorry to bring that to your

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attention, but it's very serious

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what is happening right now.

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Conseiller Cousineau.

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- >> Just to add to the

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complements addressed to our

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personnel on the breakage, the

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city was really ready. It went

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as smooth as it could have. It

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was a tough situation in

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management, management played

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their role. Well, management and

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the rest of the workers were

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ready. So, I want to thank them.

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Thank you.

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>> Councillor Stainforth?

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Councillor Bissonnette?

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>> Yeah, good evening. There's

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good news for lakeshore. For

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years, we've been talking about

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the condition of the road. It's

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like a country road but it's not

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supposed to be in the country,

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with all the potholes and that.

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So, we started a program, I

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guess it was 2017, 19, and the

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idea was to start paving from

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sources road to the village. Not

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at one time but, you know, over

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a period of time. So we got up

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to rain or drive, which is about

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halfway to Milroy there and

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since then, we were not able to

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do it. There were different

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things going on, work and what

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have you in the area. So, it was

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put on hold. However, next year

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from -- drive, it'll go all the

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way to the canoe club. So, that

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will be paving, resurfacing, not

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digging up the pipes, not

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digging up anything because

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there are no water main breaks

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there. That's one of the

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downfalls of that road because

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there are no breaks. However, it

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is going to be resurfaced,

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sidewalks will be repaired if

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they were damaged, they will be

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fixed. And borders. So, that is

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good news and then in the

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future, every year we will be

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doing another section until we

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get as far as the village there.

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Les bonnes nouvelles c'est que

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sur le chemin bord du lac, ça

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fait des années qu'on se plaint

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qu'il y a une mauvaise condition

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mais un programme qu'on a débuté

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en 2017 pour le

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(inaudible)

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du chemin, on s'est rendu

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jusqu'à

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(inaudible)

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on a fait un bout de chemin.

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Ensuite, on est obligé

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d'attendre parce qu'il y a eu

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des travaux dans le secteur

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depuis quelques années. Mais là,

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l'année prochaine à partir des

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Rangers jusqu'au club de Cannes

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ça va être pavée. Les trottoirs

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vont être réparés. Ils

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n'arrachement pas les trottoirs

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ils vont réparer ceux qui sont

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endommagés et les bordures. Donc

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c'est quand même bien par la

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suite ils vont continuer les

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projets jusqu'au village. Des

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bonnes nouvelles, merci.

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Good evening.

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>> Councillor Homan? - Je

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voudrais partager quelques

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remerciements au nom de la

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conseillère

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(inaudible)

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du district de trois. Elle est

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en déplacement pour l'hôpital

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mais elle ne voulait pas manquer

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la question de remercier une

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valoir Diane qui lui est cher.

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Beaucoup d'entrevues ont aimé

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fréquenter

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(inaudible)

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pour son excellent pain, ces

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petits déjeuners, c'est sûr,

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c'est sandwich et bien plus

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encore. Ne vous inquiète pas,

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(inaudible)

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le fondateur qui en a pris sa

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retraite. Nous tenons à

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remercier Ken d'avoir participé

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à la Fondation du village

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Valois. Votre esprit est votre

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gentillesse resteront à jamais

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dans nos mémoires. Nous sommes

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sûrs que nous vous verrons

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encore dans les parages. Mais

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maintenant, en tant que

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retraité. Profitez bien de cette

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nouvelle étape de votre vie.

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Vous l'avez bien mérité. I would

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like to share some thoughts and

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appreciation on behalf of

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Councillor Kelly Thorstad-Cullen

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of district three. She's

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travelling from the hospital but

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did not want to miss the

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opportunity to share -- many of

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you have enjoyed frequenting the

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den for their terrific bread,

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breakfasts, soups, sandwiches,

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and more. And do not worry, they

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are still open but the founder,

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can, has retired, with his wife,

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meaning. We want to thank you,

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can, for being part of the

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fabric of Valois village. Your

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spirit and kindness will forever

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be remembered and we are sure

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that we will see you around, but

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now as a retiree. Enjoy this

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next phase of your life, well

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deserved.

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>> Councillor Tremblay?

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Councillor Stork?

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Bonjour à tous. Welcome to

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everybody. J'aimerais d'abord

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mentionner premièrement que le

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cinquième

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(inaudible)

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de Eriksen les menait organisée

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par Steve Cohen a permis de

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ramasser 6740 Cat dollars pour

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l'hôpital de Montréal pour les

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enfants. C'est trois fois plus

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haut, trois fois le montant

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qu'ils ont récoltés en 2023.

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Félicitations à Steve et toute

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son équipe, pour un événement

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aussi incroyable. Je vous

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recommande fortement d'y

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assister la nuit prochaine.

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Maintenant, sur une autre note

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plus sérieuse. Lors de la

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réunion publique des mois

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dernier, j'ai déclaré que gérez

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à mes préoccupations concernant

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les commentaires faits de lors

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de la réunion publique du

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conseil l'an dernier concernant

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les commentaires faites par

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rapport à l'opposition du projet

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fait par l'unanimité du conseil

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l'année dernière derrière le

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(inaudible)

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sur Saint-Jean. Il y a des

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nombreuses précisions que je

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pourrais apporter, mais je vais

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vraiment me concentrer sur la

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déclaration sur laquelle il

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aimerait voir des triplex sur un

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maximum de six étages sur ce

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site. Une telle déclaration est

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dénué dans

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(inaudible)

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financière. Lors de cette

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analyse est effectuée, elle n'a

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aucun sens. Permettez-moi de

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vous expliquer. En référence aux

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triplex et en fonction de tous

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les variables associés, grandeur

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des terrains, prix d'achat,

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coûts de construction,

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rentabilité minimal et d'autres

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éléments connexes, le nombre

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maximum des triplex pourrait

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être construit sur ce terrain

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sur dix triplex. Le coût de

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chaque triplex de 3,5 millions

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de dollars. Oui, 3,5 millions de

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dollars chaque. Financé 3,5

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millions de dollars autant

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actuelles du marché entraînerait

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un versement hypothécaire

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mensuel de dix... 17500 dollars.

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Est-ce que c'est logique? Selon

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vous? Quel sera le loyer pour un

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éventuel locataire? Il n'y a

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aucune

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(inaudible)

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financière dans un tas

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ignorions, car ces duplex ne

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vendrais jamais à 3,5 millions

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de dollars et ne serait

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certainement pas rentable. Voici

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l'un des faits relatifs à un

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immeuble de six étages au lieu

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de 12 étages. Le coût du terrain

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reste la même. Le coup du pied

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carré reste fondamentalement la

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même. Le nombre total des

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logements est pratiquement

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réduit de moitié. Lorsque toutes

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les variables sont calculées,

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l'augmentation du loyer pour une

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locataires d'un immeuble de si

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cet âge par rapport annuel de 12

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étages est un peu moins de 50%

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plus cher. Oui, 50% plus ça.

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Cela étant dit, si le loyer

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était de 1000 par mois pour un

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immeuble de 12 étages et

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seulement désormais de 3000 pour

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un immeuble de six étages.

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Est-ce que c'est faisable selon

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vous? Combien d'appartements

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seraient loués. Pas beaucoup,

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c'est sûr. Depuis, aucun

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promoteur ne pourrait obtenir le

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financement bancaire pour un tel

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projet et aucun citoyen pourrait

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se permettrait de payer les

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loyers. Il n'y a donc aucune

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faisabilité pour le bâtiment

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dessus cet âge de six dans les

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circonstances actuelles. Ma

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conclusion de cette analogie

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inquiétante, nous avons la

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responsabilité morale de mener

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les recherches appropriées, de

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faire preuve d'intelligence

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raisonnable et de ne pas

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contentés de faire des

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déclarations superficielles,

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peut-être plus par aventurer

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dénué de bon sens. S'il y a des

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questions concernant mon

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évaluation ou un besoin de

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précisions sur les commentaires,

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je serais disponible après cette

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réunion ou par email pour

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pouvoir en discuter davantage.

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Merci!

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I would first like to mention

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that the fifth adults lyrics for

546
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,040
lemonade effect organized by

547
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,040
Steve Cohen and his family held

548
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,040
at Northview Park a few weeks

549
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,040
ago raise $6,744 for the

550
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,040
Montréal children's hospital. A

551
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,040
small, a little event organized

552
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,040
by a dad, his wife, and his

553
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,040
three kids. This is three times

554
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,040
the amount raised in 2023.

555
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,040
Congrats to Steve and his entire

556
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,040
crew for such an amazing event.

557
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,000
I would strongly recommend that

558
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000
you all at and next year. Now on

559
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000
a more serious note. At last

560
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000
month's public meeting, I stated

561
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000
that I would address my concerns

562
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000
on comments made during the last

563
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000
month's Public Council meeting,

564
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000
regarding comments made in

565
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000
opposition to the project

566
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000
approved unanimously by Council

567
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000
last week being the project

568
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000
behind the second cup on St.

569
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000
John's, the affordable housing

570
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000
project. There are numerous

571
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000
clarifications to be made that I

572
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000
could address. However, I really

573
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000
want to focus on the statement

574
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000
that they would like to see

575
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000
their triplexes or a maximum of

576
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000
six storeys at this site. Such a

577
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000
statement is void of financial

578
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000
analysis and when the financial

579
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000
analysis is done, it makes no

580
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000
sense whatsoever. Allow me to

581
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,000
explain. In reference to

582
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,000
triplexes and based on all the

583
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
pertaining associated variables,

584
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000
size of the lot, purchase price,

585
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000
building cost, minimal

586
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000
profitability, and other related

587
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000
elements, the maximum number of

588
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000
triplexes that could be built on

589
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000
this site would be ten

590
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,060
triplexes. With the cost of each

591
00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:01,060
triplex, when all is said and

592
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,060
done, would be three point $5

593
00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:05,060
million each. Yes, three point

594
00:21:05,060 --> 00:21:07,060
$5 million each. To finance

595
00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:09,060
three point $5 million at

596
00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:11,060
current market rates, it would

597
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:12,060
result in a monthly mortgage

598
00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:15,060
payment of $17,500. Does that

599
00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:17,060
make sense? What do you believe

600
00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:19,060
the rent would be to a possible

601
00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,060
tenant on such a project? There

602
00:21:20,060 --> 00:21:22,060
is no financial viability to

603
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:24,060
such a scenario, as these

604
00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:25,060
duplexes would never select 3.5

605
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:27,060
million each and definitely

606
00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:29,060
would not be rental. Now, here

607
00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:30,060
are the facts pertaining to a

608
00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:31,060
six storey building instead of a

609
00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:33,060
12 storey building. The cost of

610
00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:35,060
the land remains the same. The

611
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:36,060
cost of a square foot to build

612
00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:38,060
basically remains the same.

613
00:21:38,060 --> 00:21:39,060
However, the total quantity of

614
00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:41,060
rental units is basically cut in

615
00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:42,060
half. When all these variables

616
00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:44,060
are calculated, the increase in

617
00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:46,060
the rent for a tenant in a six

618
00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:47,060
storey building, versus a 12

619
00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:50,060
storey building, is just under

620
00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:54,060
50%. Yeah, 50%. That being said,

621
00:21:54,060 --> 00:21:56,060
if the rent were 2000 per month

622
00:21:56,060 --> 00:21:58,060
in 12 storey building, it would

623
00:21:58,060 --> 00:22:00,020
now be 3000 for a six storey

624
00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:03,020
building. Is that feasible? Not

625
00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:05,020
many, that's for sure, would be

626
00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:06,020
rented. As well, no developer

627
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,020
would even get financing for the

628
00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:10,020
bank for such a project and no

629
00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:11,020
citizens could afford to rent

630
00:22:11,020 --> 00:22:13,020
them. Thus, it's clear that

631
00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:14,020
there is no feasibility for a

632
00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:15,020
six storey building at this

633
00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:17,020
location under the current

634
00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:19,020
circumstances. My closing

635
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:21,020
statement on this matter is as

636
00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:22,020
elected officials, we have a

637
00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:23,020
moral responsibility to produce

638
00:22:23,020 --> 00:22:25,020
proper research and do

639
00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:26,020
appropriate due diligence, and

640
00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:27,020
not just make shallow comments

641
00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:29,020
that are misleading in nature

642
00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:31,020
and potentially void of common

643
00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:32,020
sense. If anyone has any

644
00:22:32,020 --> 00:22:34,020
questions on this assessment or

645
00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:35,020
requires further clarification,

646
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:37,020
I will be available after this

647
00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:38,020
meeting or by email and we can

648
00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:41,020
talk further. Thank you. We

649
00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:44,020
>> Thank you, Councillor Stork.

650
00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:48,020
So, just as an overall comment,

651
00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:52,020
we we have quadrupled --

652
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:54,020
neighbours introducing

653
00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:56,020
residential units, and we had

654
00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:58,020
the single highest rent increase

655
00:22:58,020 --> 00:23:01,080
in the country last year. So, no

656
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080
matter how you spin the

657
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
economics, no matter how it

658
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
goes, affordability seems to be

659
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080
a real challenge and I don't

660
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,080
think that going higher,

661
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,080
building more, and making it

662
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,080
more profitable for the

663
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,080
developer, will solve that

664
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,080
crisis of affordability. And it

665
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,080
has not in the past, and we have

666
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,080
seen the evidence of that. So, I

667
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,080
would simply fact check things,

668
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,080
go back and look at the

669
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080
statements people have made, and

670
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
you will see that sometimes, we

671
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
have to prioritize the citizen,

672
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080
the citizen and the quality of

673
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,080
life, as opposed to the profits

674
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,080
of a developer. So, before we

675
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,080
proceed into question period,

676
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,080
Pour la période de questions,

677
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,080
vous avez été...

678
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080
>> Can we just adopt the agenda

679
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,080
first?

680
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,080
>> Sorry, thanks.

681
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,080
- Un verglas un, adoption de

682
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,080
l'ordre du jour. >> No problem.

683
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080
>> 1.1, adoption of the agenda

684
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,080
with two changes. Avec deux

685
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,080
changements. The withdrawal of

686
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080
the M 6.1 in 6.2. And the second

687
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,040
change is the addition under

688
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040
section, varia section of the

689
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,040
following item. Soil

690
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,040
decontamination, rehabilitation

691
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,040
process on two lots located at

692
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,040
173, 173 C Cartier Avenue.

693
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,040
Dans le cadre du programme

694
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040
climat seul plus du ministère de

695
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,040
l'Environnement et de la lutte

696
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,040
contre les changements

697
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040
climatiques. Alors, l'ajout du

698
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,040
point 19,1 à la section varia

699
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,040
projets d'économie...

700
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040
décontamination et des sols de

701
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040
deux lots situés à 173, 173

702
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,040
c'est avenue Cartier dans le

703
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040
cadre du programme climat seul

704
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,040
plus dans le ministère de

705
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,040
l'Environnement et de la lutte

706
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,040
contre les changements

707
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040
climatiques.

708
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040
>> For the adoption of the

709
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040
agenda, do I have a mover?

710
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,040
>> Tara Stainforth, district

711
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,040
four.

712
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,040
>> And seconder?

713
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040
- Paul Bissonnette, historique

714
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040
de.

715
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,040
>> All in favour?

716
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,000
- Approuver le procès-verbal de

717
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000
la séance ordinaire du 3

718
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
septembre 2024.

719
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000
>> For approving the minutes of

720
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
the regular meeting of September

721
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
3rd, do I have a mover?

722
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000
>> Tara Stainforth, district

723
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
four.

724
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
>> And seconder?

725
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000
>> Paul Bissonnette, district

726
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000
three.

727
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000
>> All in favour? - Pour la

728
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000
période des questions, vous avez

729
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000
été accueilli à l'entrée pour

730
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000
vous inscrire à la période de

731
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000
questions. Afin de vous

732
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000
permettre de demeurer à vos

733
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000
places jusqu'à l'appel de votre

734
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
nom, nous garderons 90 minutes

735
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
pour la période des questions.

736
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000
Une personne à la fois au micro.

737
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Nous vous remercions d'attendre

738
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
que le citoyen ait terminé de

739
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000
poser sa question et que vous

740
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000
soyez appelés avant de vous

741
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000
lever pour venir poser votre

742
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000
question. Deux, nous accordons

743
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
la priorité aux résidentes et

744
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000
aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.

745
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,060
Trois, les non-résidents

746
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:03,060
pourront poser leurs questions

747
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,060
par la suite, si le temps n'est

748
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:08,060
pas écouler. For question

749
00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:09,060
period, you read it at the

750
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:10,060
entrance to register for the

751
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:11,060
question period so that you

752
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:13,060
could remain seated until your

753
00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:15,060
name is called. You shall stick

754
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:17,060
to the 90 minutes time limit, we

755
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:19,060
shall stick to the 90 minute

756
00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:21,060
time limit for the question

757
00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:23,060
period. Point number one, one

758
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:25,060
person at a time on the

759
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,060
microphone. Thank you for

760
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:27,060
waiting for a citizen to finish

761
00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:29,060
asking their question and to be

762
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:31,060
called before you get up to ask

763
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:33,060
yours. To, we give priority to

764
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:34,060
Pointe-Claire residents and

765
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,060
three, non residents can ask

766
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:38,060
their questions afterwards if

767
00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:41,060
time has not run out. So, to

768
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:45,060
begin, we will start with Mr.

769
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,060
Nasr El Dabee.

770
00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:55,060
>> Good evening. First, I will

771
00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:56,060
have a comment about Mr. Eric

772
00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:57,060
Stork, what he said about the

773
00:26:57,060 --> 00:26:59,060
cost of --

774
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:03,020
>> Well, it's question period,

775
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:05,020
Mr. El Dabee. So, you have to

776
00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:07,020
have a prelude or preamble to

777
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:09,020
your question. And then ask a

778
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:11,020
question related to that

779
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:14,020
preamble. So, you can word

780
00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:15,020
things as you wish but you have

781
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:17,020
to have a question that follows

782
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:18,020
up on your preamble.

783
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:23,020
>> The question is, the

784
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:28,020
insurance is going to pay 200,

785
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:30,020
sorry, two billion and a half

786
00:27:30,020 --> 00:27:32,020
for all damage and claims of

787
00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:36,020
what happened on August 9th. And

788
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:39,020
they recommended, is any city

789
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:51,020
and risk of flooding to stop any

790
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:56,020
building and any anything for

791
00:27:57,020 --> 00:28:02,080
the sewer and the

792
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,080
to be able to handle all the

793
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,080
rain and -- the second thing,

794
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,080
that's what you say first, you

795
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,080
stop all the expansion, all

796
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,080
building. The second thing to

797
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,080
avoid all that, you have already

798
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080
all our -- phone number to alert

799
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,080
people from using the water

800
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080
facility because if you remember

801
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080
what happened between five PM

802
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080
and seven PM, that flood

803
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,080
happened and the sewer back up

804
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080
happened. That's when it it was

805
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080
time everybody home, using the

806
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,080
bathroom, and toilet, and

807
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,080
shower, and washing machine,

808
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,080
that's all what has happened.

809
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,080
And that's what's supposed to be

810
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,080
recommended to the city, risk of

811
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,040
flood. So, the city is supposed

812
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,040
to be, I'm just giving you an

813
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040
idea of what the insurance is

814
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040
doing because it's going to be

815
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,040
some houses that insurance,

816
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040
they're not going to get

817
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040
injured. That's what you said

818
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040
because it's a risk of flooding

819
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040
too many times. And the

820
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,040
valuation of the houses is going

821
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,040
to be very low, and even --

822
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
seller houses and not be able to

823
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,040
get a mortgage. And the --

824
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,040
administration was saying, we

825
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040
have to build high rise

826
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040
buildings and condos to lower

827
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,040
the cost for operating the city,

828
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,040
and too low, but it did not

829
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,040
happen. So now, for the 13

830
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,040
projects, there are 2100

831
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,040
apartments. Plus what they -- is

832
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040
about 3000, so over 5000

833
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,040
apartments, plus the 3000, the

834
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000
360, what Mr. Eric Stork said

835
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000
there they wanted. This is over

836
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
5000 apartment units, so any

837
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
rain or any storm is going to

838
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000
have a flood again. So, I'm just

839
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
giving you an idea about what

840
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
the insurance said, because it

841
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
is going to be costing all of us

842
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,000
a lot of money for cleanup,

843
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
renovation, so that's what they

844
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
recommended, to stop building

845
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
any, anything, and expand the

846
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
city, and to have a plan,

847
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000
serious plan, for people to stop

848
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
using the water facility when

849
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
there's a storm, by alert, the

850
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000
same what you're doing for us

851
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,000
when you call for changing

852
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
anything for that. So, that's my

853
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
question. Are you going to do

854
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,000
that? Because now, I see they

855
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
want to build more and more.

856
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
>> Are we going to do what,

857
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Mister El daddy? I want to get

858
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
some precision on your question.

859
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000
>> To stop building and expand

860
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,060
in the city until they fix the

861
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,060
infrastructure, the sewer

862
00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:04,060
entering system. That is one

863
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:06,060
thing. The second thing, to have

864
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:08,060
alerts for people to stop using

865
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:12,060
the water or all the water

866
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:16,060
facilities when it's storming.

867
00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:19,060
Because if you see in Florida

868
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:23,060
and Georgia, the rain is not

869
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:24,060
measured by millimetres, it's

870
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:27,060
being measured by feet. So,

871
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:29,060
that's what's going to happen

872
00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:31,060
because always it starts there

873
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:33,060
and they come here. So, that

874
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:34,060
those are the two things. We

875
00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:37,060
have to do it right away.

876
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:38,060
>> Okay, well I will try and

877
00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:40,060
answer that because it's pretty

878
00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:45,060
all-encompassing. We

879
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:47,060
procedurally, I think every city

880
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:48,060
has realized that we have to

881
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:50,060
get, we have to work with the

882
00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:51,060
citizens to figure out what to

883
00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:54,060
do and to have it more reactive

884
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:57,060
approach proactive process up

885
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:59,060
front, so we can help citizens

886
00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:01,020
immediately and tell them what

887
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:02,020
to do, what not to do. Because a

888
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:04,020
lot of us didn't realize how

889
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:05,020
serious it was and using a

890
00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:06,020
plumbing in the basement and

891
00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:08,020
opening taps, doing all kinds of

892
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:09,020
things, nobody really knew about

893
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:10,020
it. There were whole bunch of

894
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,020
things that we learn from. I

895
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:12,020
mean, our own basement was

896
00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:14,020
flooded. Dollars was flooded and

897
00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:15,020
the city halls were flooded. I

898
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:18,020
mean, it was a learning

899
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,020
experience but al for a lot of

900
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,020
people, for everybody. So yes,

901
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:23,020
having a plan, knowing what to

902
00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:25,020
do, preparing as a city, the

903
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:27,020
citizens, along with us, yes.

904
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:31,020
Certainly. I think everybody's

905
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:33,020
-- I've seen other cities doing

906
00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:34,020
this as well. We're all trying

907
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:36,020
to get an action plan and

908
00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:38,020
prepared, so that when this

909
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:40,020
happens again, it's not if, it's

910
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:41,020
when this happens again, we will

911
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:42,020
be better prepared. I think

912
00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:44,020
that's on us and I think we're

913
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:47,020
working at that. There are a

914
00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:50,020
variety of things we can do.

915
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:52,020
Retention basements, permeable

916
00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:53,020
pavement, there are all kinds of

917
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:55,020
tricks that we can try and

918
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:57,020
enact. Permeable pavement has

919
00:32:57,020 --> 00:33:00,080
not yet been convincing in its

920
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080
techniques yet, since testing.

921
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Retention basins have. But there

922
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,080
are simple things, we really

923
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080
have to know, as you can't cut

924
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,080
wet lines, can't cut trees,

925
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080
can't do a lot of things that

926
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,080
absorb and you can't, in the

927
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,080
end, you have to let, you can't

928
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,080
build over absorption ground.

929
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080
Ground that absorbs water. It is

930
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,080
not a good idea. So, these are

931
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,080
all things that we know about

932
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,080
that we can do that city should

933
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,080
enact going forward. Will that

934
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080
stop building altogether? I

935
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,080
doubt it very much. There are

936
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080
commitments and contracts, and

937
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
forward plans already in place,

938
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,080
okay? And I doubt very much that

939
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080
will, I don't think anybody is

940
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,080
going to stop development

941
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080
altogether until we figure out

942
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,080
how to, you know, until the next

943
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080
rainstorm. But what we can do is

944
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080
try and develop techniques that

945
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,080
will mitigate against flooding.

946
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Now, the interesting thing, to

947
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080
answer your rainstorm or your,

948
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,080
sorry, your insurance query with

949
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,040
the rainstorm, what I noticed is

950
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,040
they're not going to identify

951
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040
specific houses. In that

952
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,040
flooding, in that rainstorm,

953
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,040
houses that had never been

954
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,040
flooded flooded. And houses that

955
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,040
had frequently been flooded did

956
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040
not flood. I mean, it defied all

957
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
logic, that rainstorm, the

958
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,040
August 9th. So, I don't think

959
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,040
you can build a case against

960
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,040
certain houses from it. Just in

961
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,040
my personal observation, from

962
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040
what occurred there, as far as

963
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
whether houses insurable or not,

964
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,040
I don't think we had convincing

965
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,040
evidence one way or the other on

966
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,040
that experience. So hopefully

967
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,040
those are satisfactory answers

968
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,040
to what you put a lot at me. Do

969
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040
you have a subsequent follow-up,

970
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Mister El Dabee? Do you have a

971
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040
follow-up question?

972
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,040
>> Yeah because I already asked

973
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,040
the insurance company, they

974
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,040
already put the city at risk of

975
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
flooding and we think, where is

976
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040
the two and a half billion

977
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040
dollars, who's going to pay all

978
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,040
of that it's us, that's just

979
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000
clear and people understand. My

980
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000
second question about --

981
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
>> That was an all encompassing

982
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
first question, Mr. El Dabee.

983
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,000
But I will allow the second one.

984
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
>> Because it's very important,

985
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000
the first question, really. It

986
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
affects all of us, all of us,

987
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,000
the whole city. Not only me. We

988
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,000
the 14.3.

989
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
>> There is no 13.3.

990
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
>> 14?

991
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
>> 14.3.

992
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

993
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000
14,3.

994
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
>> -- He was truck for removing

995
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
the snow from the sidewalk, the

996
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000
two small ones. They pay almost

997
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
half 1 million dollars for two

998
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,060
used trucks and the new one is

999
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:03,060
cheaper than that. So, --

1000
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:07,060
>> I doubt that very much,

1001
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:08,060
Mister El Dabee. I'm not an

1002
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:09,060
expert at these things but do

1003
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:11,060
you actually have facts and

1004
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:12,060
figures to confirm that?

1005
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:13,060
>> By checking the website and

1006
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:16,060
the new one, I'm just asking,

1007
00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:17,060
did anybody check about the new

1008
00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:19,060
one? Because we pay --

1009
00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:21,060
>> I have the utmost confidence

1010
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,060
in my administration that we're

1011
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:23,060
not paying more for a used

1012
00:36:23,060 --> 00:36:25,060
vehicle than anyone. I'm quite

1013
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:27,060
confident in answering on that.

1014
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:28,060
I don't know the facts but I'm

1015
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:31,060
pretty sure, just on an act of

1016
00:36:31,060 --> 00:36:32,060
faith, that we're not

1017
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:33,060
deliberately spending so much.

1018
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:35,060
>> So me as a citizen, 200,000

1019
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:38,060
for a used one -- to clean the

1020
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:40,060
sidewalk, that's a lot. Anyway,

1021
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:42,060
I hope you check all of that,

1022
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,060
please. Because our taxes went

1023
00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:47,060
up 16 and a half percent. That's

1024
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:49,060
why we care now about all of

1025
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:52,060
what the city is spending all

1026
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:54,060
our tax dollars on. Thank you.

1027
00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:56,060
God bless you all.

1028
00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:58,060
>> And Mr. El Dabee, just to

1029
00:36:58,060 --> 00:36:59,060
answer your first question, just

1030
00:36:59,060 --> 00:37:01,020
a follow-up, there are other

1031
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:03,020
things we can do as a city as

1032
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,020
well, which is to stop the cause

1033
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:07,020
of climate change. And we can

1034
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:10,020
solar panel our industrial park,

1035
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:11,020
the -- municipal buildings, we

1036
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:12,020
can green roof, we can do all

1037
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,020
kinds of things still to

1038
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:15,020
mitigate against climate

1039
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:17,020
disaster. Over and above just

1040
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:19,020
immediate infrastructures. We

1041
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:21,020
can do all kinds of, we can so

1042
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,020
countries, that's first and

1043
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:23,020
foremost but there are all kinds

1044
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:26,020
of techniques that as cities, we

1045
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:28,020
have to enact going forward.

1046
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:31,020
Madame Verdun, do you have

1047
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:32,020
anything subsequent to the

1048
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:34,020
purchase of vehicles with the

1049
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:35,020
acquisition of, are we paying

1050
00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:37,020
too much for a second hand

1051
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:39,020
vehicle over a new one?

1052
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:40,020
>> They are slightly used

1053
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,020
vehicles that have a less than

1054
00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:45,020
one year use. The reason that we

1055
00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:47,020
bought that used vehicle is

1056
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:48,020
because we cannot wait for new

1057
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:51,020
ones and we have to go to

1058
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,020
tenders. So, for the price that

1059
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:54,020
you see online, that's not the

1060
00:37:54,020 --> 00:37:56,020
price that we pay. So, I'm

1061
00:37:56,020 --> 00:37:58,020
pretty sure that there, you

1062
00:37:58,020 --> 00:37:59,020
know, less expensive than new

1063
00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:03,080
ones after we do the tender.

1064
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080
>> Okay, thank you.

1065
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
>> Thank you. No, that's all the

1066
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,080
questions, Mister El Dabee.

1067
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Thank you. Miss Conway, Line

1068
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,080
Conway?

1069
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,080
>> Good evening. It's a

1070
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,080
follow-up for I have asked in

1071
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080
the past about, this is a

1072
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,080
follow-up because I've asked in

1073
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,080
the past about some new

1074
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,080
construction on D and -- the

1075
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080
veterans corridor because last

1076
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,080
year, when my assistant went up,

1077
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,080
I ended up being 16.5% more

1078
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,080
taxes and I was told that my

1079
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,080
assessment was in relationship

1080
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:52,080
to the price of houses sold in

1081
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,080
my neighbourhood. So, Dieppe is

1082
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,040
just one block away and at 163

1083
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Diab, I wrote an email today and

1084
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,040
I just want to understand how we

1085
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,040
go from a zoning of one car

1086
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,040
garage to building, the building

1087
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040
already went up. It's now a two

1088
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,040
car garage home. Like, usually

1089
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,040
if I want to do something that's

1090
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,040
out of the usual, that doesn't

1091
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,040
follow the bylaw, I need to ask

1092
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,040
for a derogation and it gets to

1093
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
be voted but I just wanted to

1094
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
know for a new home, doesn't

1095
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,040
follow the same process?

1096
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,040
>> That's a very good question.

1097
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,040
As to our set procedures, as a

1098
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,040
one or two car garages, I think

1099
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040
that's a fairly fluid section of

1100
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,040
our building procedures that I

1101
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,040
think could be ironed out a

1102
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,040
little better than they are

1103
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
currently ironed out. That's my

1104
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,040
understanding. But I'm an

1105
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040
overseer, I'm not an expert. Is

1106
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,000
there anybody who wants to add

1107
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000
to that?

1108
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
>> I don't know exactly that

1109
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
file but I'm sure if they're not

1110
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000
respecting the bylaw, they need

1111
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000
to ask for a minor exemption or

1112
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
maybe in that case, it could be

1113
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
-- as pay process, so I will

1114
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
have to look at that case

1115
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
carefully. But yes, they can

1116
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000
have a request, something that's

1117
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
not part of the bylaw to be --

1118
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000
>> Also for example, there is

1119
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
160 through the up and also 116.

1120
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
They built it with a three car

1121
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
garage. So, I don't know how

1122
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
that happens. Like, when the

1123
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
zoning is one car garage is, it

1124
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000
seems a bit extreme because when

1125
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000
those houses get bought and

1126
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000
sold, and that's going to affect

1127
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000
the next roll assessment. I

1128
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
don't know how much I'm going to

1129
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000
pay in taxes.

1130
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
>> I'm personally surprised at

1131
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000
that because that's not, not an

1132
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
especially efficient use of

1133
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
building on land. Per square

1134
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000
footage. So, I'm surprised at

1135
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
that but I would have to look

1136
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,060
into that. A three car garage at

1137
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:03,060
116 Dieppe?

1138
00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:05,060
>> Yes.

1139
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:06,060
>> Okay, thank. You

1140
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:07,060
>> Also want to make a point

1141
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:08,060
about --

1142
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:11,060
>> I think that's --

1143
00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:12,060
>> The garages are on the side

1144
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:13,060
of the house.

1145
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,060
>> Oh, it's the same question?

1146
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,060
Okay.

1147
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:17,060
>> It's the house that looks

1148
00:41:17,060 --> 00:41:18,060
like four times the size of my

1149
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:19,060
house.

1150
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:20,060
>> Okay.

1151
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:23,060
>> My second question, about

1152
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:26,060
global warming and these events

1153
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:29,060
that we have. With the wood

1154
00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:30,060
burning, even there was a lady

1155
00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:34,060
that came at the mic last year.

1156
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:37,060
She did a very nice speech about

1157
00:41:37,060 --> 00:41:41,060
the stove with the pellets. It's

1158
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:44,060
as bad as burning wood. I think

1159
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:46,060
my neighbour does that. I get

1160
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:49,060
the smell in the winter. It's

1161
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:51,060
the same thing. The pollution is

1162
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:54,060
the same thing. Can we address

1163
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:58,060
this issue with the pellet

1164
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:59,060
burning wood stoves?

1165
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:02,020
>> You would like us to be as

1166
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:03,020
stringent with pellet burning as

1167
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:05,020
we are with wood burning in our

1168
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:06,020
laws?

1169
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:07,020
>> It's the same thing, the lady

1170
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:08,020
who came, I don't have a name

1171
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:09,020
there, we would have to research

1172
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:13,020
it again if I watch old council

1173
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:14,020
meetings. I don't know if you

1174
00:42:14,020 --> 00:42:17,020
remember the lady that came and

1175
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:18,020
talked about the wood stoves and

1176
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:22,020
pellet stoves? We

1177
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:24,020
>> It might have been stellar

1178
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:25,020
Haley, but I'm not sure she

1179
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:27,020
would make that error. She would

1180
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:30,020
know if pellets were bad.

1181
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:32,020
>> Yeah, she gave the numbers of

1182
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:33,020
pollution.

1183
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:35,020
>> Okay, we can't attribute that

1184
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,020
comment to Miss Haley because we

1185
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:40,020
don't know. Just guessing, so,

1186
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:42,020
what my understanding is if

1187
00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:44,020
pellets are as bad as would, we

1188
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:45,020
should have that in our, we

1189
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:46,020
should be treating them in the

1190
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:50,020
same way as we treat wood. Or --

1191
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:52,020
>> It's as bad for the

1192
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:53,020
environment. Because wood, it's

1193
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:55,020
wood. The palettes, I think they

1194
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,020
take grass and they compress it.

1195
00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:58,020
It's as bad.

1196
00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:00,080
>> Okay, thank you.

1197
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,080
>> Thank you.

1198
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
>> Susan Weaver?

1199
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,080
>> This is pretty nice, okay?

1200
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,080
So, I have two questions. First

1201
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,080
one with the preamble. Oops, at

1202
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080
the August council meeting, a

1203
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,080
bylaw was adopted concerning the

1204
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,080
expenses of council members and

1205
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,080
reimbursement procedures. In

1206
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,080
section three of this bylaw,

1207
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,080
ineligible expenses, it's

1208
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080
written that council members are

1209
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,080
responsible to pay costs

1210
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,080
incurred following an accident

1211
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,080
or breakdown. Towing, insurance

1212
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,080
deductible, and repairs, et

1213
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080
cetera. Or any other event

1214
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,080
that's not the cities

1215
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,080
responsibility. I don't know

1216
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,080
what et cetera is. Last spring,

1217
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,080
you had an accident with a

1218
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,080
vehicle that our city supplies,

1219
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Mayor, for City use. You are not

1220
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080
using it for City business. You

1221
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,080
totalled the city vehicle and

1222
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,040
now you have to drive your own

1223
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
vehicle. Since the lease was

1224
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040
between the city and the car

1225
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,040
company, does the City have to

1226
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,040
pay something when the lease is

1227
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040
broken before time? And what's

1228
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,040
the total expense to the city

1229
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,040
for your accident?

1230
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,040
>> Okay, first of all, the

1231
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,040
automobile that was supplied to

1232
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,040
the mayor of Pointe-Claire,

1233
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,040
which has been supplied to I

1234
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040
think three subsequent mayors

1235
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,040
who've all driven a car supplied

1236
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,040
by the City. The car, the rules

1237
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,040
and operation of the vehicle did

1238
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040
not stipulate or did not

1239
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,040
distinguish between types of

1240
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,040
usage of the vehicle. I suspect

1241
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,040
they didn't want people having

1242
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040
cars in their driveway. The car

1243
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,040
could only be used for groceries

1244
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,040
and this car could be used for

1245
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,040
that, and I'm going to have two

1246
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,040
vehicles taking up space in a

1247
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,040
driveway for different usages. I

1248
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,040
personally, as to not have the

1249
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040
car we, asked to not have the

1250
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,000
car but it was a stipulation of

1251
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,000
the job and it is what every

1252
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,000
mayor of Pointe-Claire has had

1253
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000
for 25 years. So, I got the

1254
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
vehicle. And I drove the

1255
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
vehicle. While driving the

1256
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,000
vehicle, I hit a deer. I did not

1257
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000
get injured, I did not die. And

1258
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,000
the car was fully insured. Thank

1259
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000
you, Miss Weaver.

1260
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000
>> So, --

1261
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
>> You have a subsequent

1262
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
question?

1263
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,000
>> Okay, I'll ask --

1264
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000
>> One subsequent question.

1265
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,000
>> Okay, my second question is,

1266
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,000
because I didn't get an answer

1267
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,000
the first time, what's the

1268
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,000
procedure? --

1269
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
>> Excuse me, you did get an

1270
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
answer the first time.

1271
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
>> No, I didn't.

1272
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000
>> That is not a fair statement

1273
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
and I just have to correct it.

1274
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000
You did get an answer. Thank

1275
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
you, Miss Weaver, your

1276
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,000
subsequent question?

1277
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
>> Well, the first one, what's

1278
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,000
the total expense to the city?

1279
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
>> I'm not sure. It was fully

1280
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,000
insured, so I don't know.

1281
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
>> It's okay, I'll find out.

1282
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
>> Question two, what's the

1283
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
procedure when you really do

1284
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
have a city expense? Do you have

1285
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,060
a city credit card?

1286
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:03,060
>> Is that your question?

1287
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,060
>> Yeah.

1288
00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:06,060
>> I had a city credit card. I

1289
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:08,060
no longer have a city credit

1290
00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:10,060
card. It was given to me. It's

1291
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:11,060
an interesting process.

1292
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:13,060
>> No, I like this.

1293
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:15,060
>> Miss Weaver, I'm answering

1294
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:17,060
your second question, okay? When

1295
00:46:17,060 --> 00:46:19,060
I became mayor, I was given a

1296
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:21,060
credit card and I was given a

1297
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:23,060
car. All of a sudden, I don't

1298
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:24,060
have a credit card, I don't have

1299
00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:27,060
a car. I followed the rules.

1300
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:28,060
Okay, you want me to use the

1301
00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:30,060
credit card? I will use a credit

1302
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:31,060
card. You don't want me to use a

1303
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:32,060
credit card? I don't use a

1304
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:33,060
credit card. You want me to the

1305
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:35,060
car? I will use the car. If you

1306
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:36,060
don't want me to use the car, I

1307
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:38,060
won't use the car. It is a

1308
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:39,060
simple as that, Miss Weaver.

1309
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:41,060
That's the answer to your

1310
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:42,060
question.

1311
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:43,060
>> Okay.

1312
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:46,060
>> Thank you. David Johnson?

1313
00:46:58,060 --> 00:47:00,020
>> It the rule two questions on

1314
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:01,020
anything?

1315
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:03,020
>> One preamble, two questions,

1316
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:04,020
period.

1317
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:05,020
>> On the same theme?

1318
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:06,020
>> They will have to be. The

1319
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:08,020
second question could be a

1320
00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:10,020
follow-up but preferably,

1321
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,020
actually that's a good question.

1322
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:12,020
Does it have to be on the same

1323
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:15,020
thing? No, okay. So, there is a

1324
00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:16,020
preamble and then two questions.

1325
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:20,020
>> David Johnson, district one.

1326
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:22,020
How much would it cost, by

1327
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:24,020
Fairview forest, has there been

1328
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:26,020
an evaluation?

1329
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:29,020
>> Not exactly, no.

1330
00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:31,020
>> As a follow-up to that, I

1331
00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:32,020
would like to point out a

1332
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:34,020
similarity between Pointe-Claire

1333
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:38,020
and Hudson. Hudson, like

1334
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:39,020
Pointe-Claire, is involved with

1335
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:41,020
the bay in saving a big piece of

1336
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:45,020
land. In Hudson, it's behind

1337
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:47,020
what they call sandy beach.

1338
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:50,020
There is wetlands there.

1339
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,020
Protected by the new changes to

1340
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:55,020
the Municipal taxation Act and

1341
00:47:55,020 --> 00:48:00,080
developable land. Citizens

1342
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,080
there, there is no consensus on

1343
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,080
what to do. By that or not?

1344
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Develop it or not? The mayor

1345
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,080
there, like our mayor here, does

1346
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
not want to any development on

1347
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,080
the.

1348
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,080
>> Excuse me, for giving me to

1349
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,080
interrupt. Can you please

1350
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,080
address Council?

1351
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,080
>> Pardon?

1352
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,080
>> Yes, you to address Council,

1353
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,080
not the audience. It's actually

1354
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,080
a real procedure. --

1355
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080
>> The mayor there, like you

1356
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,080
hear, does not want development

1357
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,080
in that area.

1358
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,080
>> Not just the mayor but

1359
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,080
anyhow, yes.

1360
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,080
>> Council is divided.

1361
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,080
>> We are not even sure of that.

1362
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,080
We're not sure Council is

1363
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,080
divided on that. We have not had

1364
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,080
an official vote on that.

1365
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,080
>> I'm talking about --

1366
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,080
>> I'm just correcting facts

1367
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080
here. You're speaking for the

1368
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,080
people, oh, in Hudson? Okay.

1369
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,080
>> In Hudson, the mayor says I

1370
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,080
am opposed to development there.

1371
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,080
But she says I am the Mayor of

1372
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,080
all people in Hudson and maybe

1373
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,040
some of them need to know what

1374
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,040
the cost will be. So, Hudson

1375
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
council approved to resolutions.

1376
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,040
One, $25,000 to affirm in

1377
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,040
Repentigny to say, what is this

1378
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,040
land worth? Taking into

1379
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,040
consideration the new changes to

1380
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,040
new municipal taxation act. What

1381
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,040
kind of range are we talking

1382
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,040
about? What would be the cost to

1383
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,040
taxpayers of buying that? Or

1384
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,040
buying some of it? At the same

1385
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,040
time, another 25,000 dollar

1386
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
contract was accorded to be C

1387
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040
to, another firm, to do an

1388
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,040
opportunity cost analysis of the

1389
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,040
case. My question is, can you,

1390
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,040
Mister Mayor, persuade Council

1391
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,040
to do the same thing? To give us

1392
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000
an independent study of what it

1393
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,000
would cost taxpayers to buy

1394
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Fairview forest and what the

1395
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,000
opportunity cost, in terms of

1396
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,000
development revenue, would be if

1397
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000
we don't buy it?

1398
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
>> Well, Mr. Johnson, I would

1399
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
love to have a referendum on

1400
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
that. And then we would get a

1401
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
very accurate answer to that.

1402
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,000
That would be the truest and

1403
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,000
honest answer to that, rather

1404
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
than an economic equation drawn

1405
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
up by a quote, unquote,

1406
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,000
consulting expert. I would like

1407
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,000
a much more broad, excuse me,

1408
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Mr. Johnson.

1409
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,000
>> I didn't interrupt you.

1410
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
>> Okay, just subsequent, the

1411
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
previous experiences, is rearing

1412
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,000
its ugly head. I don't think

1413
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000
evaluating it costs of saving

1414
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
our lives is an economic

1415
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
equation, as simple as that. I

1416
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,000
think the environment and

1417
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,000
concern for the environment is

1418
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000
something that weighs much more

1419
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000
strongly than a simple economic

1420
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
equation. And when you're going

1421
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,060
to maybe perhaps lose your

1422
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:04,060
existence, no amount of money

1423
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,060
matters. So, it's really

1424
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:07,060
interesting how people sometimes

1425
00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:08,060
want to quantify the costs of

1426
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:10,060
something. The cost of cutting

1427
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:12,060
down a whole bunch of trees and

1428
00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:14,060
a force and a wetland after we

1429
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:16,060
just had a really serious flood

1430
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:18,060
is a really interesting proposal

1431
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:20,060
on your part. I find it really

1432
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:23,060
intriguing. I think that the

1433
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:24,060
evaluation of the importance of

1434
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:26,060
the forest is far beyond an

1435
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:28,060
economic one. And I would love

1436
00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:30,060
the citizens to weigh in on

1437
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:31,060
that. But I will let them speak

1438
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:34,060
to your question, perhaps

1439
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,060
overtime and in the various

1440
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:38,060
democratic processes that come

1441
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:41,060
to us. Hudson can evaluated

1442
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:43,060
their own way and they're

1443
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,060
perfectly prepared and willing

1444
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:46,060
to do so or they can do as they

1445
00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:50,060
choose. I think the proper

1446
00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:53,060
solution to this Fairview forest

1447
00:51:53,060 --> 00:51:55,060
is not whether the City buys it,

1448
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:57,060
but whether there are other ways

1449
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,060
of protecting that forest

1450
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:00,020
without the City buying it.

1451
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:02,020
There are a variety of ways of

1452
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,020
accomplishing that

1453
00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:04,020
administratively that are areas

1454
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:06,020
that should be explored. So, I'm

1455
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:08,020
actually doing a fiscally

1456
00:52:08,020 --> 00:52:10,020
responsible approach to saving

1457
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:14,020
the forest. For one, I would've

1458
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:16,020
loved more help from the CMM or

1459
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,020
from other higher levels of

1460
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:19,020
government who could perhaps

1461
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:21,020
wait in and acquire the forest.

1462
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:23,020
There are all kinds of ways of

1463
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:24,020
protecting that forest other

1464
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:26,020
than the city, itself, buying

1465
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:28,020
it. There are many, many, excuse

1466
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:31,020
me, Mr. Johnson. There are many,

1467
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:33,020
many ways of protecting that

1468
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:34,020
forest without putting it on the

1469
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:36,020
back of the taxpayer. And to

1470
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:40,020
portray it as such is truly

1471
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:41,020
unfortunate. So, that's my

1472
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:43,020
answer. Now, Mr. Johnson, this

1473
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:46,020
is your subsequent question.

1474
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:47,020
Your second, follow-up question.

1475
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:49,020
>> So, the answer is no, you

1476
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:51,020
wouldn't favour a study to

1477
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:52,020
evaluate the value of that?

1478
00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:54,020
>> I would favour whatever the

1479
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:55,020
citizens of Pointe-Claire choose

1480
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:57,020
to approach this problem in the

1481
00:52:57,020 --> 00:52:59,020
most clear and democratic way

1482
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:03,080
possible. Councillor Stork?

1483
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080
>> Just to make this clear, I'm

1484
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,080
letting a cat out of the bag

1485
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,080
here but we have never discuss

1486
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,080
this issue, right? Like, I just

1487
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,080
want to make sure that what I'm

1488
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,080
about to say, I've never

1489
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080
discussed this with you. Anyhow,

1490
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,080
I can tell you that I have asked

1491
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,080
internally the mayor to put

1492
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,080
something like that together.

1493
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,080
Okay, is it in the works? I'm

1494
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,080
not sure. I'm sure other things

1495
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080
will be said but regardless of

1496
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,080
that, I can tell you, and I've

1497
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,080
spoken to some members of

1498
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Council, that that needs to be

1499
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080
done. I need the assessment of

1500
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,080
what our options, expropriation,

1501
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
purchase, if we go to get so

1502
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,080
free money, would we be able to

1503
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,080
put a plan together to assess

1504
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,080
it? And basically, you know once

1505
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,080
again, letting the cat out of

1506
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
the bag, you know I'm working

1507
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,080
actually on a resolution to

1508
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,080
force that issue, to bring it to

1509
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,080
the attention of the

1510
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,080
administration that if so, if

1511
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,080
the majority of Council agrees,

1512
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,040
that something of that nature

1513
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,040
will be done to get a final

1514
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,040
assessment. Again, not for or

1515
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,040
against it at this point. Time

1516
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,040
has to portray itself, time

1517
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,040
needs to go through. But to get

1518
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,040
us the facts. If we expropriate,

1519
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,040
what are our rates of

1520
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,040
expropriation? There's a lot of

1521
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,040
misunderstanding of

1522
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,040
expropriation. Oh, it's free,

1523
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,040
I've seen people say it's free

1524
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,040
for wetlands. Well, it has to be

1525
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,040
wetlands of high value, which

1526
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,040
still has to be determined. And

1527
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,040
a proper environmental

1528
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,040
assessment, not one by like the

1529
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,040
legacy group, which is an

1530
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,040
organization. Not one by the

1531
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,040
developer either. We need a

1532
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,040
proper, independent evaluation

1533
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,040
to know where we stand, so we

1534
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,040
can make decisions and I believe

1535
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,040
this is pretty much a referendum

1536
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,040
question. You know, to what

1537
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,040
extent? 50 plus one, two thirds,

1538
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,040
like the constitution? I don't

1539
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,040
know. But something of this

1540
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,040
nature, the type of expenditure

1541
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,040
we're looking for needs to be a

1542
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,040
long, deep, and thought process.

1543
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040
It can be a group for against

1544
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,040
for or against development, or

1545
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,040
four or against the Fairview

1546
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,040
forest. It's a process that

1547
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,040
needs to be done and I strongly

1548
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,000
would support that.

1549
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
>> Okay, Councillor Tremblay?

1550
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
>> Thank you, Mister Mayor. I

1551
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000
have to admit that I am

1552
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
disappointed with the narrow

1553
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
focus of the question, which is

1554
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000
uniformly, unilaterally

1555
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,000
economic. So, in all honesty, so

1556
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000
is the answer. And that

1557
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
particular perspective is an old

1558
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
one. It's the way we used to

1559
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,000
think about things. We used to

1560
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,000
think strictly about the

1561
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,000
economics of these kinds of

1562
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,000
matters. As the storms that are

1563
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
ravaging the east coast from

1564
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Florida up to us now, this is

1565
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
becoming a -- issue, it's

1566
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,000
becoming a problem. The federal

1567
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000
government has maintained that

1568
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,000
were undergoing a climate

1569
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
emergency. You act when there is

1570
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,000
an emergency. So, in order to

1571
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,000
find a solution to this problem

1572
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,000
that we have right now, and this

1573
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
has nothing to do with the way

1574
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
they've moved forward in Hudson.

1575
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,000
Probably in other contexts. You

1576
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,060
may be even comparing apples to

1577
00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:03,060
oranges. As far as I can tell.

1578
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:06,060
The important thing is that we,

1579
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:08,060
in Council, and I've said this

1580
00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:10,060
many times, have the intention

1581
00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:13,060
of working towards saving

1582
00:56:13,060 --> 00:56:17,060
important green space. There are

1583
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:21,060
numerous legal avenues. I

1584
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:22,060
wouldn't say numerous, that's

1585
00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:24,060
the wrong word, but their legal

1586
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:25,060
avenues that are beginning to

1587
00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:27,060
take shape in this province to

1588
00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:30,060
allow cities to be able to

1589
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:31,060
protect some of the green

1590
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:33,060
heritage that they have. That

1591
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:35,060
has to be included in that

1592
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:37,060
discussion. Another important

1593
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:38,060
factor that needs to be included

1594
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:41,060
in the discussion is the

1595
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:45,060
possibility of working with

1596
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:48,060
individual land owners, whether

1597
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:49,060
they be private, small,

1598
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:51,060
residential land owners or

1599
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:52,060
large, corporate ones, in order

1600
00:56:52,060 --> 00:56:54,060
to arrive at those kinds of

1601
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:57,060
solutions. I, for one, I'm tired

1602
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:59,060
of reading regular reports of a

1603
00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:03,020
number of species dying out on a

1604
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:05,020
daily basis. We have situations

1605
00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:08,020
where we had the COP15 meeting

1606
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:10,020
here in Montréal recently where

1607
00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:12,020
every government representative,

1608
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,020
federally, provincially,

1609
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:14,020
municipally, showed up and said

1610
00:57:14,020 --> 00:57:15,020
yes, we want to save everything.

1611
00:57:15,020 --> 00:57:20,020
,

1612
00:57:20,020 --> 00:57:21,020
And we've lost provincially now,

1613
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:22,020
it's contradictory and in terms

1614
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:23,020
of obtaining some of those

1615
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:24,020
school so I think it's time here

1616
00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:25,020
at this table here, and in the

1617
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:26,020
audience, and in Pointe-Claire

1618
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:27,020
generally, those who make of the

1619
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:28,020
social fabric of this particular

1620
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:29,020
city, that we get together and

1621
00:57:29,020 --> 00:57:30,020
we start thinking creatively

1622
00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:31,020
about how we're going to be able

1623
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:32,020
to save these kinds of areas..

1624
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:33,020
Next, test, test..

1625
00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:36,020
| | |

1626
00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:44,020
So, again, and disappointed with

1627
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:46,020
the narrow focus. I think it's

1628
00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:48,020
an important question to be

1629
00:57:48,020 --> 00:57:50,020
raising. It's something we

1630
00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:52,020
should be talking about

1631
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:53,020
regularly. But I would encourage

1632
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:54,020
you to also broaden your

1633
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:56,020
horizons and start looking at

1634
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:57,020
ways that you might be able to

1635
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:59,020
contribute to help save it as

1636
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:00,080
well. It's not just important

1637
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,080
for us, not just important for

1638
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,080
those who are invested in it,

1639
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,080
but for everybody else in the

1640
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,080
future. Going forward. Thank

1641
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,080
you.

1642
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,080
>> Thank you, Councillor

1643
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,080
Tremblay. Stuart Brennan?

1644
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,080
>> Hello. I'm Stewart Brandon,

1645
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,080
I'm from district eight. I live

1646
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080
on Bell mar in the apartment

1647
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,080
buildings. I live on Del Mar at

1648
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,080
the, there's 11 apartment

1649
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,080
buildings, I'm sure you know

1650
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,080
about them. I heard your words

1651
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,080
tonight about being concerned

1652
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,080
about those for rent, rentals,

1653
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080
you know? For the people who

1654
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:53,080
would be able to pay rent, so I

1655
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,080
listened to that and so, I had

1656
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,080
the question. If you really

1657
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,080
believe it, if you really mean

1658
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,040
it, because you have raised our

1659
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,040
taxes on those buildings 25%.

1660
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,040
25%. And that was put down on

1661
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,040
us. We are people who don't have

1662
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,040
a lot of money. We work hard and

1663
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,040
we are under the gun all the

1664
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,040
time by those who buy the

1665
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,040
buildings, like Mr. Cowan, you

1666
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,040
know you had somebody who bought

1667
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,040
those buildings. When they put

1668
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,040
their foot down on us, okay? And

1669
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
push the rants up, push people

1670
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,040
out of the buildings, and I'm

1671
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,040
telling you, we were under fire

1672
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,040
here. Now, you raised the taxes

1673
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,040
25% and that was put on us by

1674
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,040
the owners. Owners of these

1675
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,040
buildings. Not only that, if

1676
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,040
you're going to evaluate a

1677
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
building and raise the taxes,

1678
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,040
one of these buildings has a

1679
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:59,040
roof on the ground. 496 Del Mar,

1680
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,000
half the roof is on the ground.

1681
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,000
And you've raised these taxes.

1682
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
These buildings are not worth

1683
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,000
more than what they were before.

1684
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,000
They are worth less. I am

1685
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
telling you guys, you've got to

1686
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,000
really look into it. You're

1687
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,000
talking about housing for

1688
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,000
people. Oh, well we want to

1689
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,000
build. Never mind building, how

1690
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,000
about the ones that are there

1691
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,000
now? How about saving those

1692
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,000
ones? How about getting involved

1693
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000
with that? Because we are under

1694
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000
the fire. You guys, you've got a

1695
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,000
nice job, got an extra job,

1696
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,000
you've got extra, you know? For

1697
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,000
whatever you're doing. We don't

1698
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,000
have that. We've got one job.

1699
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000
We've got families to take care

1700
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
of. We are the people who take

1701
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,000
care of things in the hospitals,

1702
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,000
the old folks homes, and in

1703
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000
companies. We are the blue

1704
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,000
collar workers. Are you going to

1705
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,000
help us? So, my question, why

1706
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,000
did you raise the taxes? And

1707
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,000
will you lower these taxes for

1708
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,000
us?

1709
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,060
>> That is quite a moving

1710
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:02,060
statement and I totally respect

1711
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:05,060
what you have just said. It is a

1712
01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:08,060
hard question to answer. Taxes

1713
01:01:08,060 --> 01:01:09,060
are a challenge because you have

1714
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:11,060
to pay for things, you are

1715
01:01:11,060 --> 01:01:14,060
right. Taxes are also, as you've

1716
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:16,060
learned tonight, a huge hunk of

1717
01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:19,060
them come from another

1718
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:22,060
organization. Quite, in all

1719
01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:24,060
fairness, we don't think

1720
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:26,060
operates as well or as

1721
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:27,060
officially as we do or as

1722
01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:30,060
justly, in some ways, as we do.

1723
01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:34,060
So, it is hard to control rent.

1724
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:36,060
Excuse me, it's hard, it's very

1725
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:37,060
hard to control rent. It's

1726
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:39,060
really hard to control taxes and

1727
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:41,060
the level of taxation. I hear

1728
01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:45,060
what you are saying. For us then

1729
01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:47,060
we can improve our, levels of

1730
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:49,060
service delivery, efficiency,

1731
01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:51,060
how we operate. You know, there

1732
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:52,060
are all kinds of variables on

1733
01:01:52,060 --> 01:01:53,060
that which I hear you loud and

1734
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:55,060
clear on compared to the average

1735
01:01:55,060 --> 01:01:57,060
person. And I respect what you

1736
01:01:57,060 --> 01:02:02,020
have said. To control taxes is,

1737
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:05,020
I mean, what you are getting it

1738
01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:06,020
in there is that if there's

1739
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:07,020
building renovations, you're

1740
01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:09,020
talking renovictions or are you

1741
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:10,020
talking about a building gets

1742
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:12,020
value, goes up if it renovates

1743
01:02:12,020 --> 01:02:14,020
or if it gets rebuilt?

1744
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:15,020
>> First of all, they haven't

1745
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:17,020
done any renovations to the

1746
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:20,020
buildings but the evaluations,

1747
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,020
they consulted somebody and then

1748
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:23,020
they go in and evaluate the

1749
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:25,020
buildings, and then the taxes go

1750
01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:27,020
up. Now, like I said, in one

1751
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:30,020
year, 25%, the taxes went up.

1752
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:33,020
From 120, hundred thousand two,

1753
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:37,020
or 101,000 $226,000. And it is

1754
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:38,020
going up again. It's going up

1755
01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:41,020
again. 5000, $6,000 every year.

1756
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:43,020
Why? These buildings are coming

1757
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:45,020
down. Like I say, they've put

1758
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:47,020
those taxes when they want to go

1759
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:49,020
to the towel and they say okay,

1760
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:51,020
our taxes went up. You know, our

1761
01:02:51,020 --> 01:02:52,020
costs were going up and

1762
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:55,020
everything, so they throw it but

1763
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:57,020
25% is a huge cost. It's a huge

1764
01:02:57,020 --> 01:03:01,080
amount. I don't know who made

1765
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,080
those decisions but come on, you

1766
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,080
really have to look at the

1767
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,080
buildings. The buildings are

1768
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
really not in great shape.

1769
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,080
>> Okay.

1770
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,080
>> They could be. Maybe if

1771
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,080
everyone started to take, you

1772
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,080
know, take concern about the

1773
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,080
people in Pointe-Claire,

1774
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,080
especially in that region. We

1775
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,080
need it. We've got attendance

1776
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,080
unit now. So, we would like to

1777
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,080
address that. And eventually in

1778
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,080
the future, we may be able to

1779
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,080
come down here and address these

1780
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,080
things. Hopefully we can work

1781
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,080
together and maybe one day, you

1782
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,080
will buy these buildings. You

1783
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,080
know what I mean? Instead of

1784
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,080
buying new, brand new things

1785
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,080
which are costing thousands and

1786
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,080
millions of dollars, I don't

1787
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,080
know, that's just off the top of

1788
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,080
my head, sorry.

1789
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,080
>> Well, you are speaking my

1790
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,080
language in some ways. I will

1791
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,080
allow one subsequent question,

1792
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,080
sir. But we do have to, I think,

1793
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,080
and I say this in the last

1794
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,080
campaign, we have to look after

1795
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,080
those that live here, not those

1796
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:03,040
that are moving in. We and that

1797
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,040
is, you know, the

1798
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,040
infrastructure, the costs, the

1799
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,040
burden, the traffic, and all of

1800
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,040
the spin off that comes is

1801
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,040
absorbed by the existing

1802
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,040
citizens and is it good or bad?

1803
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,040
Do their rents go down? Do their

1804
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,040
properties, do their taxes go

1805
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,040
down? I mean, Miss Conway

1806
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,040
explained that there is a lot of

1807
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,040
economic activity around her

1808
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,040
house and her taxes went up

1809
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,040
huge. But this is supposed to be

1810
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,040
good, having new development.

1811
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,040
All of this stuff in the

1812
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,040
turnover, the economic turnover,

1813
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,040
is supposed to be good. Supposed

1814
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,040
to be bringing taxes around.

1815
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,040
Does not seem to be. We keep

1816
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,040
building, the argument is we

1817
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,040
increase supply, we heard

1818
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,040
affordability or we make it more

1819
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,040
affordable if we increase

1820
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,040
supply. Well guess what? We

1821
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,040
increase supply more than

1822
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,040
anybody in the West Island and

1823
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,040
we had the single highest rent

1824
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,040
increase in the country. So, for

1825
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,040
me, there's something wrong with

1826
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,040
this formula that you're

1827
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,040
touching on. And my, and I will

1828
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,000
give you my philosophical

1829
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000
argument, and it is an

1830
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,000
interesting one. I think

1831
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,000
affordability is something that

1832
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,000
cannot be left to the market. I

1833
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,000
think the affordability, issue

1834
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000
of affordability and housing is

1835
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,000
something that requires more

1836
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,000
intervention. If you leave it to

1837
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000
the market, we see negative

1838
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
consequences left, right, and

1839
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000
centre, and we've seen it in

1840
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,000
Pointe-Claire, and that's my

1841
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,000
long, philosophical answer to

1842
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,000
that.

1843
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,000
>> Okay so how many more

1844
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,000
buildings?

1845
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,000
>> One more question.

1846
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,000
>> How many more buildings have

1847
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,000
been approved to be put up in

1848
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,000
that region? On the Del Mar

1849
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,000
region where there's a company

1850
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,000
that's probably slated to be

1851
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,000
taken down, maybe even our

1852
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,000
buildings could be slated to be

1853
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,000
taken down so they can put up

1854
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,000
these bigger buildings. I mean,

1855
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,000
are there more buildings,

1856
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,000
high-rise buildings being slated

1857
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,000
for construction down there?

1858
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,000
>> In that area? Madam Verdon,

1859
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,000
do we know precise number as to

1860
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,000
how many in that specific area?

1861
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,000
>> We don't have right now in

1862
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,000
the table for that area.

1863
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,060
>> So, --

1864
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:01,060
>> Thank you, sir.

1865
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:06,060
>> Mister Mayor, your tax

1866
01:06:06,060 --> 01:06:08,060
evaluation this time around, the

1867
01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:10,060
buildings we just sold, to my

1868
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:11,060
understanding, right?

1869
01:06:11,060 --> 01:06:13,060
>> Again, yes. Surprised that

1870
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:14,060
you know about it.

1871
01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:18,060
>> Whatever the new buyers paid

1872
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:20,060
for it, that's going to be the

1873
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:22,060
basis of the tax assessment, the

1874
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:25,060
next rule. That will be it

1875
01:06:25,060 --> 01:06:26,060
because they don't have to

1876
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:27,060
compare that building to

1877
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:29,060
anything else. It's whatever the

1878
01:06:29,060 --> 01:06:30,060
current owners, and I don't even

1879
01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:31,060
know who they are. The used to

1880
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:34,060
be North Cliff and I just heard

1881
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:37,060
this week that the building, all

1882
01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:39,060
the buildings I think we're sold

1883
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:40,060
from North Cliff to whoever owns

1884
01:06:40,060 --> 01:06:42,060
it now. You said you formed a

1885
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:43,060
tenants association?

1886
01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:44,060
>> Yes, we have.

1887
01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:45,060
>> Can you please get in touch

1888
01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:47,060
with me so that I can coordinate

1889
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:49,060
with you? I mean, this has

1890
01:06:49,060 --> 01:06:52,060
asserted me for six years, seven

1891
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:53,060
years, ever since I was first

1892
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:56,060
elected, how to keep rents

1893
01:06:56,060 --> 01:06:58,060
reasonable. Keep them down and I

1894
01:06:58,060 --> 01:06:59,060
think I knocked on your door on

1895
01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:01,020
one or two elections. I think we

1896
01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:06,020
had this same conversation. It's

1897
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:09,020
a challenge. What I did is I

1898
01:07:09,020 --> 01:07:11,020
wrote a letter to North Cliff, I

1899
01:07:11,020 --> 01:07:13,020
wrote a letter to them

1900
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:15,020
congratulating them on their

1901
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:17,020
efforts to maintain affordable

1902
01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:18,020
housing in Pointe-Claire. I let

1903
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:19,020
them know, through the lines,

1904
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:21,020
well that's the way you played a

1905
01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:24,020
game, right? And then I let them

1906
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:25,020
know, reading between the lines,

1907
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:27,020
they better try to keep it that

1908
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:29,020
way or they're going to run into

1909
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:32,020
resistance. From me, as a

1910
01:07:32,020 --> 01:07:34,020
councillor, and I think I can

1911
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:35,020
speak for Pointe-Claire in

1912
01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:36,020
general because that's what

1913
01:07:36,020 --> 01:07:38,020
we're trying to do. To the best

1914
01:07:38,020 --> 01:07:42,020
of our ability. We are very

1915
01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:43,020
limited in what we can do in

1916
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:46,020
terms of the property evaluation

1917
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:47,020
because that's run by the City

1918
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:49,020
of Montréal, based on their

1919
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,020
formula. And then your taxes

1920
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:53,020
went up because we are stuck

1921
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:55,020
with that evaluation and we are

1922
01:07:55,020 --> 01:08:00,080
stuck with trying to apply taxes

1923
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,080
across the entire -- in

1924
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,080
Pointe-Claire. It just happens

1925
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,080
that with your property, with

1926
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,080
the apartments there, they went

1927
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,080
up in value at a steeper rate

1928
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,080
and the rest of Pointe-Claire.

1929
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,080
That's why you had a better, I

1930
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,080
mean, more of an increase. It's

1931
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,080
not because the actual budget

1932
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,080
went up that much. The budget

1933
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,080
didn't go up very much. The way

1934
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,080
the tax was distributed, that's

1935
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,080
affected and it's affected by

1936
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,080
the evaluations done by the City

1937
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,080
of Montréal. It's complicated

1938
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,080
but like especially if you set

1939
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,080
up a meeting with your tenants

1940
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,080
association, I will explain it

1941
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,080
to them and then maybe we can

1942
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,080
think of a way forward. For one

1943
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,080
thing, we have to find out, I

1944
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,080
also understood that you are

1945
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,080
just given a photocopy of like

1946
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,080
some photocopy telling you to

1947
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,080
pay rent to some other --

1948
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,080
>> It's funny that you know all

1949
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,080
this stuff. I know that you're

1950
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,080
-- with all of these developers

1951
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,080
because --

1952
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,080
>> Back when you are your friend

1953
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,080
from Northview, I mean, you got

1954
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,080
involved, you stuck your nose in

1955
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
somewhere where you should not

1956
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040
have. You got our maintenance

1957
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,040
person removed and because of

1958
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,040
that, we've never had a

1959
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,040
maintenance person again, and he

1960
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,040
was taking care of the

1961
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,040
buildings, but you stuck your

1962
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,040
nose in where you should not

1963
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,040
have.

1964
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,040
>> Well, --

1965
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,040
>> That episode, which we can

1966
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,040
discuss also another time, --

1967
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,040
>> He saved my kids from being

1968
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,040
picked up.

1969
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,040
>> I think we should refrain

1970
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,040
from an exchange. Yes,

1971
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,040
Councillor Stork?

1972
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,040
>> First of all, I have no idea

1973
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,040
what you are talking about as a

1974
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,040
friend from Northview. I know

1975
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,040
nothing about a maintenance

1976
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,040
person there, so please approach

1977
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,040
me or make it public with

1978
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,040
supporting information because I

1979
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,040
know nothing of what you're

1980
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,040
talking about right now. And

1981
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,040
just to let you know, as

1982
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,040
Councillor Cowan mentioned, we

1983
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,040
have no control over fiscal

1984
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,040
taxes, we have none. We can't

1985
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,040
even prescribed by the law to

1986
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
say a certain area, certain

1987
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,040
regions, or certain street pays

1988
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,040
higher or less taxes. We just

1989
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,000
had come out with a new law, C

1990
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000
39, which gives us different

1991
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,000
evaluations of taxation to

1992
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,000
create sub categories that can

1993
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,000
possibly views. Believe me, I

1994
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000
played for your cause, no

1995
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,000
question about it but we have to

1996
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,000
work with the confines of what

1997
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,000
we have. Just to go back the

1998
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,000
buddy from Northview, I really

1999
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,000
don't appreciate that.

2000
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,000
>> But your concern for your

2001
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:24,000
citizens though, thank you.

2002
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,000
>> So stack oh? Yeah, you're the

2003
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000
last.

2004
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000
>> Thank you for taking a

2005
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,000
nonresidents question and for

2006
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,000
giving me time. I wondered if,

2007
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,000
well first of all, I would have

2008
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,000
to be noticing I was driving

2009
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,000
down St. John's the other day

2010
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,000
and I noticed a lot of new

2011
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,000
native, maybe it wasn't new

2012
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000
native planting about beautiful

2013
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,000
plantings along the side. It

2014
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,060
looks like there's some measures

2015
01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:03,060
being taken, maybe that's the

2016
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:04,060
sustainability group, I don't

2017
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:05,060
know. Anyway, I really

2018
01:11:05,060 --> 01:11:06,060
appreciate that I've seen more

2019
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:09,060
native plantings in the public

2020
01:11:09,060 --> 01:11:11,060
spaces. It really makes a big

2021
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:14,060
difference for biodiversity and

2022
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:17,060
our local wildlife, our bucks,

2023
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:19,060
basically. We need to help our

2024
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:21,060
bugs. So, you probably know I'm

2025
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,060
a member of the group save

2026
01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:26,060
Fairview forest. I wondered if

2027
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:28,060
it's kind of a general all

2028
01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:30,060
Council question but I guess I

2029
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:33,060
can address the mayor. Did you

2030
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:36,060
receive any emails recently from

2031
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:39,060
a glut of them about safe

2032
01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:41,060
Fairview forest? And maybe

2033
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:44,060
looking into other solutions of

2034
01:11:44,060 --> 01:11:46,060
or sitting down and finding

2035
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:48,060
solutions that may not involve

2036
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:51,060
buying the forest and reaching

2037
01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:53,060
out to Montréal, Québec, and

2038
01:11:53,060 --> 01:11:56,060
even Canada for, you know, some

2039
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:59,060
ideas? Did any of you receive

2040
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:01,020
those emails?

2041
01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:03,020
>> Yes, we all do, I certainly

2042
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:04,020
did.

2043
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:07,020
>> We ask our supporters to see

2044
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:09,020
us, and we saw that there were

2045
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:13,020
58 emails sent. And I guess my

2046
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:18,020
question is, do you typically

2047
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:20,020
get that many emails about one

2048
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:22,020
topic in a, say, week period? We

2049
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:23,020
just celebrated our 200th week

2050
01:12:23,020 --> 01:12:25,020
at the force, so that was a

2051
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:29,020
campaign that we launched. Would

2052
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:30,020
that be -- fair to say that's a

2053
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:31,020
lot of emails?

2054
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:34,020
>> Since I've been mayor, yes.

2055
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:35,020
Since I've been mayor, nothing

2056
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:38,020
has come close, that's correct.

2057
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:41,020
>> So why didn't we get any

2058
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:44,020
replies? I guess that's my main

2059
01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:45,020
question.

2060
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:49,020
>> It's a very good question.

2061
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:52,020
Where we -- yeah, we could --

2062
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,020
yes, that would solicit. It

2063
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:56,020
doesn't have to request a reply.

2064
01:12:56,020 --> 01:13:00,080
It should have, but yes. Yes.

2065
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,080
Yes, Councillor Stork?

2066
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,080
>> Yes, we did receive a bunch

2067
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:07,080
of emails, because you, Sam we

2068
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,080
obviously got them. I did reply

2069
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,080
to every citizen in my district

2070
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,080
and actually met with them and

2071
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,080
explain my position. I explained

2072
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,080
exactly what I said today about

2073
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,080
moving forward on this issue. It

2074
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,080
was exactly what I told her I

2075
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,080
would say. So if you could read

2076
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,080
through your list, she was in

2077
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,080
district seven, and I met with

2078
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,080
her.

2079
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,080
>> Okay, I will definitely ask

2080
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,080
them, thank you for doing that.

2081
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,080
What's going on over here?

2082
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,080
>> Okay, Councillor -- sorry. Go

2083
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,080
ahead, Councillor Stainforth and

2084
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,080
then Councillor Tremblay.

2085
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,080
>> The protocol is that when we

2086
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,080
receive an email that everybody

2087
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,080
is copied on including the

2088
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,080
mayor, we allow the mayor to

2089
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,080
answer the email, that's our

2090
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,080
protocol. It's always been that

2091
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,080
way. So because he is the chief,

2092
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,080
I suppose, right, so that is

2093
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,080
typically the way it has always

2094
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,040
worked with emails address to

2095
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,040
everybody.

2096
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,040
>> This is news to me.

2097
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,040
>> Thank you for explaining.

2098
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,040
Well, we still thought it was

2099
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,040
important that everyone.

2100
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,040
>> If that is our operating

2101
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,040
procedure, it is news to me.

2102
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,040
Anyway, Councillor Tremblay?

2103
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,040
>> Yes, I received quite a

2104
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,040
number of them. I was way for

2105
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,040
ten, 12 days, so I'm really

2106
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,040
behind on my work. And once I

2107
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,040
have time, I will read them all

2108
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,040
individually and respond

2109
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,040
accordingly. Pardon?

2110
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,040
>> They're all the same.

2111
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,040
>> There was a lot of cutting

2112
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,040
and pasting, but some people a

2113
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,040
little personalized.

2114
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,040
>> Some are a little different.

2115
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,040
>> I'm sure your voters would

2116
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,040
appreciate if they had written

2117
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,040
you a personal one. Thank you

2118
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,040
for that as well. And I know

2119
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,040
that things have been crazy with

2120
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,040
the flooding and stuff, I just

2121
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,040
-- there is no deadline for

2122
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,040
replies. We are happy to hear

2123
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,040
them at anytime. So thank you.

2124
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,040
>> Thank you Miss stack oh.. The

2125
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:04,000
us concludes question period.

2126
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,000
5,1, je pense. 5.1 File the

2127
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,000
report pertaining to the

2128
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,000
register held from August 26 to

2129
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,000
30, 2024, with respect to By-law

2130
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,000
PC-2976. No signature was

2131
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,000
received concerning the

2132
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,000
4,075,000 dollar borrowing bylaw

2133
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,000
offer professional services for

2134
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,000
infrastructure works.

2135
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,000
Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

2136
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,000
projet de Règlement décrétant un

2137
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,000
emprunt à long terme et une

2138
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,000
dépense en immobilisations de 1

2139
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,000
635 000 $ pour des travaux dans

2140
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,000
les parcs, espaces verts,

2141
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,000
berges, pistes cyclables et

2142
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,000
plateaux sportifs. Plus

2143
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,000
précisément, pour la

2144
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,000
construction à la reconstruction

2145
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,000
aménagement et réaménagements la

2146
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,000
réflexion fourniture

2147
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,000
installations de muret à

2148
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,000
prévoir, mobilier urbain,

2149
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,000
équipements de jeu, pistes

2150
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,000
cyclables, clôture berges, la

2151
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,000
touche sportif en droit de

2152
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,000
détente, surface de jeu et

2153
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,000
travaux connexes ainsi que la

2154
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,000
main-d'oeuvre affectée,

2155
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,060
spécifiquement ces projets en

2156
01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:01,060
divers endroits du secteur

2157
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:03,060
résidentiel de la ville. Le

2158
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:04,060
montant financé sera remboursé

2159
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:05,060
par le biais d'une taxe imposée

2160
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:07,060
à l'ensemble de la municipalité

2161
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:08,060
sur la base de la valeur

2162
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:10,060
foncière des immeubles

2163
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:11,060
imposables et ce sera une

2164
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:15,060
période de 20 ans. >> 5.3 Notice

2165
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:16,060
of motion and filing of a draft

2166
01:16:16,060 --> 01:16:17,060
By-law decreeing a long-term

2167
01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:18,060
borrowing and capital

2168
01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:19,060
expenditures in the amount of $

2169
01:16:19,060 --> 01:16:20,060
2,555,000 for municipal

2170
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:21,060
infrastructure works in various

2171
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:25,060
locations. We are talking about

2172
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:26,060
construction, reconstruction,

2173
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:28,060
repair, rehabilitation works for

2174
01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:30,060
sidewalks, curbs, services,

2175
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:32,060
water main, sanitary sewer,

2176
01:16:32,060 --> 01:16:33,060
storm sewers, service

2177
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:35,060
connection, street foundation,

2178
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:37,060
paving, rural lighting, and

2179
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:38,060
related works, as well as

2180
01:16:38,060 --> 01:16:40,060
labour, specifically assigned to

2181
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:41,060
these projects at various

2182
01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:43,060
locations, the amount to be

2183
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:44,060
finance will be reimbursed by a

2184
01:16:44,060 --> 01:16:45,060
tax levied on the entire

2185
01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:46,060
municipality based on the

2186
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,060
property value of taxable

2187
01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:49,060
buildings or a 20-year period.

2188
01:16:49,060 --> 01:16:50,060
5.4 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

2189
01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:51,060
projet de Règlement décrétant un

2190
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:53,060
emprunt à long terme et une

2191
01:16:53,060 --> 01:16:54,060
dépense en immobilisations de 3

2192
01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:55,060
690 000 $ pour divers travaux

2193
01:16:55,060 --> 01:16:56,060
devant être exécutés sur les

2194
01:16:56,060 --> 01:17:01,020
bâtiments de la Ville.

2195
01:17:02,020 --> 01:17:04,020
Divers travaux de toiture,

2196
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:06,020
Fondation enveloppe portefeuille

2197
01:17:06,020 --> 01:17:08,020
nette, quel Carew maçonnerie,

2198
01:17:08,020 --> 01:17:10,020
escaliers peinture céramique

2199
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:12,020
fournitures installations

2200
01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:13,020
remplacements mise aux normes

2201
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:14,020
des règlements

2202
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:15,020
(---)

2203
01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:17,020
pour la chaleur, la ventilation

2204
01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:20,020
et l'air conditionné. Plomberie,

2205
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:21,020
protection incendie structure

2206
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:22,020
mise aux normes, réaménagement à

2207
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:24,020
nouveau connexes en lien avec

2208
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:26,020
les pays que la main d'heure

2209
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:28,020
spécifiquement à ces projets. Le

2210
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:29,020
montant financier sera

2211
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:30,020
remboursée par le biais d'une

2212
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:31,020
taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

2213
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:32,020
municipalité sur la base de la

2214
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:34,020
valeur foncière des immeubles

2215
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:35,020
imposables et sur une période de

2216
01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:39,020
20. >> 5.5 Notice of motion and

2217
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:40,020
filing of a draft By-law

2218
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:41,020
decreeing a long-term borrowing

2219
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:42,020
and capital expenditures in the

2220
01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:45,020
amount of $ 4,855,000 for

2221
01:17:45,020 --> 01:17:46,020
electrical works in various

2222
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:49,020
locations. It's the replacement

2223
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:51,020
in repairs work for lighting,

2224
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:52,020
luminaries, boxes, traffic

2225
01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:54,020
lights, upgrades, conduit,

2226
01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:56,020
wherein control systems, U.P.S.

2227
01:17:56,020 --> 01:17:57,020
systems in various works, as

2228
01:17:57,020 --> 01:17:58,020
well as labour directly

2229
01:17:58,020 --> 01:17:59,020
associated with these projects.

2230
01:17:59,020 --> 01:18:01,080
The amount to be finance will be

2231
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,080
reimbursed by a tax levied on

2232
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,080
the entire municipality based on

2233
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,080
the property value of taxable

2234
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,080
buildings or a 20-year period.

2235
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,080
5.6 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

2236
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,080
projet de Règlement décrétant un

2237
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,080
emprunt à long terme et une

2238
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,080
dépense en immobilisations de 6

2239
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,080
285 000 $ pour des services

2240
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,080
professionnels et la réalisation

2241
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,080
de travaux majeurs

2242
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,080
d'infrastructures municipales en

2243
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,080
divers endroits.

2244
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,080
Services professionnels les

2245
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,080
constructions, reconstruction,

2246
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,080
réflexion réhabilitation de

2247
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,080
trottoirs bordures, dalle de

2248
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,080
béton, mailles, structure de

2249
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,080
béton, viaducs passerelle,

2250
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,080
Service des conduites d'eau,

2251
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,080
égouts, sanitaires et pluviales

2252
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,080
Fondation de, rue pavage,

2253
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,080
éclairage routier, et travaux

2254
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,080
connexes, ainsi que la

2255
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,080
main-d'oeuvre affectées

2256
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,080
spécifiquement ses proches dans

2257
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,080
divers endroits.

2258
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,080
Le montant a financé sera

2259
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,080
remboursé par le biais d'une

2260
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,080
taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

2261
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,080
municipalité sera la base de la

2262
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,080
valeur foncière des immeubles

2263
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,080
importants options période de 20

2264
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,080
ans. >> For 5.2 to 5.6, who

2265
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,080
moves these notices of motion?

2266
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,080
>> Mister Mayor, I will

2267
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,080
presently, but first I would

2268
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,040
like to address a point of

2269
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,040
privilege.

2270
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,040
>> Sure.

2271
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,040
>> I was accused of having a

2272
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,040
caretaker of an apartment

2273
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,040
building fired. It took me

2274
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,040
awhile to remember exactly the

2275
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,040
details, but that was the

2276
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,040
scurrilous accusation, and I

2277
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,040
will tell you what happened.

2278
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,040
That caretaker was met, with

2279
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,040
some children, black children,

2280
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,040
playing in the driveway of that

2281
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,040
apartment building, and instead

2282
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
of correcting what ever he

2283
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,040
thought might have been bad

2284
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,040
behaviour, he called the police.

2285
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,040
This caused an incident and the

2286
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:35,040
parents of those children were

2287
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,040
deeply hurt and offended and the

2288
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,040
children were thereafter afraid

2289
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,040
of going outside to play because

2290
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,040
this guy had called the cops on

2291
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,040
them. So I got in touch of the

2292
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,040
chief executive officer of the

2293
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,040
land owner, which was North

2294
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,040
Cliff, not north of you, Mr.

2295
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,040
Stork, and told him that I

2296
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,040
thought -- actually, I did get

2297
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,040
in touch with him. I worked with

2298
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,040
the tenants, they got in touch

2299
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,000
with the owner of the apartment

2300
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,000
buildings, the company that

2301
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,000
owned them, and suggested they

2302
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,000
apology was in order. And

2303
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,000
eventually, the chief executive

2304
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,000
officer of North Cliff issued

2305
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
that apology to the parents of

2306
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,000
those children. And then the

2307
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,000
caretaker subsequently quit his

2308
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,000
job after a while. The children

2309
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,000
were no longer afraid to come

2310
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,000
out and play, but I guess he,

2311
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,000
was so he left. So I had nobody

2312
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,000
fired. With that said, I follow

2313
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,000
a notice of motion four items

2314
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,000
5.1 to 5.6.

2315
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,000
>> 5.7 Public consultation

2316
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,000
regarding a draft by-Law

2317
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,000
amending the Village Code,

2318
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,000
By-Law PC-2880 of the City of

2319
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,000
Pointe-Claire, regarding

2320
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,000
authorized residential use

2321
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000
classes as well as the layout of

2322
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
parking spaces required for

2323
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:54,000
class B dwellings in UP8. The

2324
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,000
draft by-law contains one --

2325
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,060
this bylaws permit duplex type

2326
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:02,060
dwellings in this zone. The

2327
01:21:02,060 --> 01:21:03,060
Council adopts the second draft

2328
01:21:03,060 --> 01:21:05,060
bylaw provided for the following

2329
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:06,060
item, I notice will be published

2330
01:21:06,060 --> 01:21:07,060
inviting residents of the zone

2331
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:09,060
covered by the draft bylaw as

2332
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:10,060
well as those of contiguous

2333
01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:12,060
zones to submit an application

2334
01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:14,060
for the opening of a register.

2335
01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:15,060
The number of applications

2336
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:16,060
required will be specified in

2337
01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:18,060
the notice it is based on the

2338
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:19,060
number of qualified voters in

2339
01:21:19,060 --> 01:21:21,060
the identified zones. If the

2340
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,060
number of requests is reached,

2341
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:25,060
the city will have to open a

2342
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:26,060
register and which the people in

2343
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:28,060
the zones from which the request

2344
01:21:28,060 --> 01:21:29,060
originate can sign to request

2345
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:31,060
that referendum be held. Note

2346
01:21:31,060 --> 01:21:33,060
that Council may withdraw the

2347
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:34,060
byline and anytime during the

2348
01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:36,060
procedure. This draft bylaw

2349
01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:37,060
contains one or more provisions

2350
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:39,060
making it a bylaw subject to

2351
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:43,060
approval by way of a referendum.

2352
01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:45,060
>> People present may address

2353
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:48,060
Council on this bylaw. And the

2354
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:50,060
same applies for the next item,

2355
01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:52,060
which is the public consultation

2356
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:54,060
regarding another draft bylaw.

2357
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:55,060
5.8 Assemblée publique de

2358
01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:56,060
consultation concernant un

2359
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:57,060
projet de règlement modifiant le

2360
01:21:57,060 --> 01:21:58,060
Règlement de zonage PC-2775 de

2361
01:21:58,060 --> 01:21:59,060
la Ville de Pointe-Claire afin

2362
01:21:59,060 --> 01:22:00,020
de modifier les dispositions

2363
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:02,020
touchant les équipements

2364
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:03,020
électriques et mécaniques,

2365
01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:05,020
l'aménagement des espaces

2366
01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:06,020
extérieurs des zones

2367
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:07,020
industrielles, les matériaux de

2368
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:08,020
revêtement classes a et b, les

2369
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:09,020
clôtures, les enceintes de

2370
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:11,020
piscine de même que certains

2371
01:22:11,020 --> 01:22:12,020
équipements récréatifs

2372
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:13,020
résidentiels. Le projet de

2373
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:14,020
règlement ne contient aucune

2374
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:15,020
disposition propre à un

2375
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:16,020
règlement susceptible

2376
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:19,020
d'approbation référendaire.

2377
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:34,020
Encore une fois, les principes

2378
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:35,020
présents peuvent s'adresser au

2379
01:22:35,020 --> 01:22:40,020
Conseil. >> So we will move on

2380
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:42,020
to 5.9, Adoption of a second

2381
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:43,020
draft by-Law amending the

2382
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:44,020
Village Code, By-Law PC-2880 of

2383
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:45,020
the City of Pointe-Claire,

2384
01:22:45,020 --> 01:22:46,020
regarding authorized residential

2385
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:47,020
use classes as well as the

2386
01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:48,020
layout of parking spaces

2387
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:49,020
required for class B dwellings

2388
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:53,020
in UP8. 5.10 Adoption d'un

2389
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:54,020
Règlement modifiant le Règlement

2390
01:22:54,020 --> 01:22:55,020
de zonage PC-2775 de la Ville de

2391
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:56,020
Pointe-Claire afin de modifier

2392
01:22:56,020 --> 01:22:57,020
les dispositions touchant les

2393
01:22:57,020 --> 01:22:58,020
équipements électriques et

2394
01:22:58,020 --> 01:22:59,020
mécaniques, l'aménagement des

2395
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:00,080
espaces extérieurs des zones

2396
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,080
industrielles, les matériaux de

2397
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,080
revêtement classes A et B, les

2398
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:03,080
clôtures, les enceintes de

2399
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,080
piscine de même que certains

2400
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,080
équipements récréatifs

2401
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:10,080
résidentiels.

2402
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,080
Pour 5,9 à 5,10... Bruno

2403
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,080
Tremblay, saignerais district

2404
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,080
six.

2405
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,080
Do I have a mover?

2406
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,080
>> -- District to.

2407
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,080
>> And second? Or

2408
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,080
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

2409
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,080
>> All in favour?

2410
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,080
>> Thank you. So 6.1 and six

2411
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,080
point 22 have been withdrawn, we

2412
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,080
will go to six point, three

2413
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,080
Grant a financial support for a

2414
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,080
total amount of $ 1,520 to the

2415
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,080
Montreal Police Brotherhood. The

2416
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,080
financial aid for the 56th

2417
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,080
annual beat lunch fund-raiser,

2418
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,080
organized by the Montréal police

2419
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,080
brotherhood, this fund-raiser

2420
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,080
will be held at the same time as

2421
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,080
the international seniors day

2422
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,080
and the 40th anniversary of aid

2423
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,080
for seniors. 190 meals will be

2424
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,080
purchased by the City of

2425
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,080
Pointe-Claire at $8 each for the

2426
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,080
event for a total of $1,520.

2427
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,080
This event will be held on

2428
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,080
October 25th, 2024.

2429
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:04,040
>> For 6.3, do I have a mover?

2430
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,040
>> And seconder?

2431
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,040
- Pouvez-vous le dire abord,

2432
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,040
messieurs Bissonnette. >> Are

2433
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,040
you seconder? Do I have a

2434
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,040
seconder? Are you a seconder?

2435
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,040
>> Eric Stork --

2436
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,040
>> All in favour?

2437
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:29,040
>> Who is the seconder.

2438
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,040
All in favour? We did vote,

2439
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,040
didn't we? 6.4 Demande présentée

2440
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,040
au CIUSSS de l'Ouest-del'Île

2441
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,040
concernant la Maison des aînés

2442
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:46,040
de Pointe-Claire.

2443
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,040
La Ville de Pointe-Claire

2444
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,040
demande au CIUSSS de l'Ouest à

2445
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,040
liste de veiller à ce que les

2446
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,040
heures de comme détail approprie

2447
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,040
soit aménagé à l'intérieur et à

2448
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,040
l'extérieur de l'immeuble prévue

2449
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,040
pour la maison des aînés. Afin

2450
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,040
d'accueillir de la verdure et un

2451
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,040
jardin avec des sièges

2452
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,000
appropriés pour les résidents et

2453
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,000
les visiteurs et que des mesures

2454
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,000
soient prises pour faciliter

2455
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,000
l'accès à la maison des aînés. À

2456
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,000
ses fins, la Ville de

2457
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,000
Pointe-Claire s'engage à

2458
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,000
collaborer étroitement avec le

2459
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,000
CIUSSS de l'ouest de l'île sur

2460
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,000
une base régulière afin d'aider

2461
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,000
à maintenir une qualité de vie

2462
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,000
souhaitable pour les résidents

2463
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,000
et les voisins de la maison des

2464
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
aînés.

2465
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,000
- Pour 6,4... 8.1 Autoriser la

2466
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,000
participation d'une employée au

2467
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,000
Forum Ville Viables 2024

2468
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,000
organisé par Conseil

2469
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,000
international pour les

2470
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,000
initiatives écologiques locales

2471
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,000
(ICLEI)

2472
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,000
, devant se tenir du 23 au 25

2473
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,000
octobre 2024 à Vancouver,

2474
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,000
Colombie-Britannique. Do I have

2475
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,000
a mover? And seconder?

2476
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,000
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

2477
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,000
>> All in favour?

2478
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,000
>> 7.1 Appoint members to the

2479
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,000
Environment and Sustainable

2480
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,000
Development Advisory Committee.

2481
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,000
This process serves to recommend

2482
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,000
the nomination of three new

2483
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,000
citizen members with a voting

2484
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,000
right to the environment and

2485
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,000
sustainable development advisory

2486
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,000
committee, namely came Matt, is

2487
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Sheila arson, and Matthew

2488
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000
Lapointe. Mandates will begin

2489
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,000
today October 1st 2024 and will

2490
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,000
end October six 2026, with

2491
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,000
possibility of renewal.

2492
01:26:11,060 --> 01:26:13,060
Participation de madame a laissé

2493
01:26:13,060 --> 01:26:15,060
une surveiller, conseillère

2494
01:26:15,060 --> 01:26:16,060
principale, développement

2495
01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:20,060
durable et transition

2496
01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:24,060
écologique... les forums des

2497
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:25,060
villes vivable est-elle

2498
01:26:25,060 --> 01:26:26,060
événement phare de

2499
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:27,060
(inaudible)

2500
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:28,060
conçu pour rassembler les

2501
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:29,060
communautés. International

2502
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:30,060
council for local environmental

2503
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:33,060
initiatives.

2504
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:42,060
Locales

2505
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:43,060
(ICLEI)

2506
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:44,060
soutient l'action locale

2507
01:26:44,060 --> 01:26:45,060
(---)

2508
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:46,060
la résilience, la durabilité les

2509
01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:48,060
objectifs de biodiversité.

2510
01:26:48,060 --> 01:26:51,060
- Pour 7,1 à 8,1...

2511
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:52,060
Do I have a mover?

2512
01:26:52,060 --> 01:26:55,060
>> I move to approve, Tara

2513
01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:56,060
Stainforth, district four.

2514
01:26:56,060 --> 01:26:58,060
>> And seconder?

2515
01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:00,020
>> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

2516
01:27:00,020 --> 01:27:04,020
>> All in favour? - Merci! 9.1

2517
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,020
Approve the evaluation criteria

2518
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:06,020
to be used within the framework

2519
01:27:06,020 --> 01:27:07,020
of a call for tenders to be

2520
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:08,020
launched for professional photo

2521
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:10,020
and video services. These

2522
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:12,020
criteria, based in large part on

2523
01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:13,020
competence and achievements,

2524
01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:15,020
will be used by the committee

2525
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:16,020
developing the bids received.

2526
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:17,020
Approuver les critères

2527
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:18,020
d'évaluation devant être

2528
01:27:18,020 --> 01:27:19,020
employés dans le cadre de

2529
01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:20,020
l'appel d'offre devant être

2530
01:27:20,020 --> 01:27:21,020
lancé pour des services

2531
01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:22,020
professionnels en graphisme. Ces

2532
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:24,020
critères basés notamment sur la

2533
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:25,020
compétence et les réalisations

2534
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:26,020
seront utilisés par le comité

2535
01:27:26,020 --> 01:27:28,020
qui évaluera les soumissions

2536
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:33,020
reçues. >> For 9.1 and 9.2, do I

2537
01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:34,020
have a mover?

2538
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:35,020
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2539
01:27:35,020 --> 01:27:37,020
>> And seconder?

2540
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:39,020
Claude Cousineau, district un.

2541
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:43,020
>> All in favour?

2542
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:45,020
>> 10.1 two File the list of

2543
01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:46,020
budget amendments and the

2544
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:47,020
register of cheques for the

2545
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:48,020
period of August 24, 2024, to

2546
01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:51,020
September 20, 2024.

2547
01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:52,020
10.2 Adhérer au regroupement du

2548
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:53,020
ministère de la Cybersécurité et

2549
01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:54,020
du Numérique pour les solutions

2550
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:55,020
d'infrastructure-service

2551
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:56,020
(IAAS)

2552
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:57,020
, de plateformesservice

2553
01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:58,020
(PAAS)

2554
01:27:58,020 --> 01:27:59,020
et de logiciels-service

2555
01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:00,080
(SAAS)

2556
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,080
reliées.

2557
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,080
Le service nous permettra

2558
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,080
d'avoir un stockage illimité

2559
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,080
ainsi que les fonctionnalités et

2560
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,080
Discovery sauvegardait

2561
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,080
restauration pour nos 525

2562
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,080
licences. Les services de

2563
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,080
sauvegarde couvrent nos licences

2564
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,080
Office 365 ainsi que OneDrive,

2565
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,080
Sharp pointe et Thames. >> 10.3

2566
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,080
Authorize a budget amendment due

2567
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,080
to a water consumption

2568
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,080
adjustment and rate adjustment

2569
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:25,080
for the year 2023 received from

2570
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,080
the City of Montreal. The value

2571
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:30,080
of the Adjustment is $237,000

2572
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,080
and $20.02, and the ballots

2573
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,080
available in the budget is

2574
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,080
$109,758. Consequently, a budget

2575
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,080
a man in the amount of

2576
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,080
$127,263.02 is acquired. 10.4

2577
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,080
Octroyer un contrat pour des

2578
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,080
services d'entretien et

2579
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,080
d'assistance technique pour les

2580
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,080
produits PG Solutions, à PG

2581
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,080
Solutions, pour un montant total

2582
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:52,080
de 196 946,43 $, taxes incluses.

2583
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,080
Les logiciels visés sont accès

2584
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,080
territoire, accès cités et

2585
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,080
territoires, accès citer

2586
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,040
documents assez aux finances,

2587
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
assez aux loisirs, les logiciels

2588
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,040
musique et accès citée en ligne

2589
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,040
pour la ligne 2025.

2590
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,040
- Pour 10,2 à 10,4. Do I have a

2591
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,040
movie?

2592
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,040
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

2593
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,040
>> Seconder?

2594
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,040
>> All in favour? 11.1 File the

2595
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,040
audit report from la Commission

2596
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,040
municipale du Québec regarding

2597
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,040
the by-law adoption process. In

2598
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,040
accordance with section 86.8 of

2599
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,040
the act respecting the

2600
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,040
commission of Municipalities, we

2601
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,040
are artists submit to Council a

2602
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,040
follow-up report on the

2603
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,040
implementation of

2604
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,040
recommendations concerning the

2605
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,040
bylaw adoption process. The

2606
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,040
audit was carried out by the sea

2607
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,040
M Q with four cities of the

2608
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:44,040
population between 10,000 and

2609
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,040
99,999. The City of

2610
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,040
Pointe-Claire was one of 23

2611
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040
cities audited.

2612
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,040
11.2 Approuver une entente à

2613
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:50,040
intervenir avec Réseau de

2614
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,040
transport métropolitain

2615
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,040
(EXO)

2616
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,040
concernant la prolongation de

2617
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,040
l'interruption du délai de

2618
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:55,040
prescription. Il est dans

2619
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,040
l'intérêt des parties de

2620
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,040
s'entendre pour une interruption

2621
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,040
des prescriptions concernant

2622
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,000
tous les sommes qui seraient

2623
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,000
dues entre elles. Relations avec

2624
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,000
les ententes pour le partage des

2625
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,000
responsabilités affaire ont à

2626
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,000
l'entretien, aux travaux mineurs

2627
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,000
et aux travaux majeurs des trois

2628
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,000
gares couvrant la période du 1er

2629
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,000
janvier 2019 au 31 mai 2023. >>

2630
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,000
For 11.2, do I have a mover?

2631
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,000
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

2632
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,000
>> Seconder?

2633
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
>> Claude Cousineau, district

2634
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,000
two.

2635
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,000
>> All those in favour?

2636
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,000
>> Thank you. 12.1 File the list

2637
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,000
of delegated staff changes for

2638
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,000
the month of October 2024. 12.2

2639
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,000
Approuver la liste des

2640
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,000
changements au personnel par

2641
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,000
décisions non déléguées au 1

2642
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,000
octobre 2024. Fort 12,2, un 14.2

2643
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,000
Octroyer un contrat pour la

2644
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,000
fourniture et livraison d'un

2645
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,000
(1)

2646
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,000
godet tamiseur neuf pour

2647
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,000
chargeuse sur roues, à Longus

2648
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,000
Equipment Inc., pour un montant

2649
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,000
total de 69 214,95 $, taxes

2650
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,000
incluses. Do I have a mover?

2651
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:43,000
>> I just want to -- I think

2652
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,000
somebody was potentially gonna

2653
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,000
vote against it. No, okay, I

2654
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,000
apologize. Eric Stork, district

2655
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,000
seven.

2656
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,000
>> And seconder?

2657
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,000
>> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

2658
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:54,000
>> All in favour?

2659
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,000
>> So 14.1, Award a contract for

2660
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,060
the supply and the installation

2661
01:31:00,060 --> 01:31:01,060
illuminated pedestrian

2662
01:31:01,060 --> 01:31:02,060
crossings, to Trafic Innovation

2663
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:04,060
Inc., for a total amount of $

2664
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:08,060
62,598.14, taxes included. The

2665
01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:09,060
contract will be completed

2666
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:12,060
between mid September 2024 --

2667
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:15,060
2024, and mid September 2025.

2668
01:31:28,060 --> 01:31:29,060
>> 14.3 Award a contract for the

2669
01:31:29,060 --> 01:31:30,060
supply and the delivery of two

2670
01:31:30,060 --> 01:31:31,060
(2)

2671
01:31:31,060 --> 01:31:32,060
used tracked sidewalk snow

2672
01:31:32,060 --> 01:31:33,060
removal machines, to Les

2673
01:31:33,060 --> 01:31:34,060
Equipments Plannord Ltée., For a

2674
01:31:34,060 --> 01:31:35,060
total amount of $ 418,738.95,

2675
01:31:35,060 --> 01:31:37,060
taxes included.

2676
01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:41,060
15.1 Octroyer un contrat pour

2677
01:31:41,060 --> 01:31:42,060
des services professionnels pour

2678
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:43,060
une étude PFT de six piscines

2679
01:31:43,060 --> 01:31:44,060
extérieures et leur chalet, à

2680
01:31:44,060 --> 01:31:45,060
Cardin Julien Inc., pour un

2681
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:46,060
montant total de 193 158,00 $,

2682
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:51,060
taxes incluses.

2683
01:31:53,060 --> 01:31:56,060
Cette étude servira à la

2684
01:31:56,060 --> 01:32:00,020
planification des travaux à

2685
01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:01,020
établir l'état de dégradation et

2686
01:32:01,020 --> 01:32:02,020
les investissements nécessaires

2687
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:07,020
pour les années à venir. >> 15.2

2688
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:08,020
Approve a change order to the

2689
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:09,020
contract entered into with

2690
01:32:09,020 --> 01:32:10,020
Groupe Cirtech Inc., for roofing

2691
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:12,020
works at Cedar and Ovide park

2692
01:32:12,020 --> 01:32:13,020
chalets, for an amount of $

2693
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:18,020
16,253.56, taxes included. The

2694
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:20,020
modification concerns the

2695
01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:21,020
details of the parapet and

2696
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:23,020
slopes, which have been revised

2697
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,020
according to the structural

2698
01:32:24,020 --> 01:32:29,020
engineers expertise. Do I have a

2699
01:32:30,020 --> 01:32:31,020
mover?

2700
01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:33,020
Claude Cousineau districts à 30.

2701
01:32:33,020 --> 01:32:35,020
>> And seconder?

2702
01:32:35,020 --> 01:32:37,020
>> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

2703
01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:38,020
>> All in favour?

2704
01:32:38,020 --> 01:32:39,020
16.1 Approuver une modification

2705
01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:40,020
au contrat intervenu avec

2706
01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:41,020
7574479 Canada Inc., pour la

2707
01:32:41,020 --> 01:32:42,020
réfection complète d'un escalier

2708
01:32:42,020 --> 01:32:43,020
au parc Terra-Cotta, pour un

2709
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:44,020
montant de 5 546,39 $, taxes

2710
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:49,020
incluses.

2711
01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:57,020
>> And 16.2, Approve a change

2712
01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:58,020
order to the contract entered

2713
01:32:58,020 --> 01:32:59,020
into with 130132 Canada Inc.

2714
01:32:59,020 --> 01:33:00,080
(Larochelle Électrique)

2715
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,080
, for the installation of

2716
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:03,080
charging stations, for an amount

2717
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:07,080
of $ 14,082.82, taxes included.

2718
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,080
It is for a change in the

2719
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,080
calibre of the cables at the

2720
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,080
arena, City Hall, the library,

2721
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,080
all of Urquhart Sports Centre

2722
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,080
and Edgewater park.

2723
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,080
>> So for 16.1 and 16.2, do I

2724
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:20,080
have a mover?

2725
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,080
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

2726
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:27,080
>> And seconder? All those in

2727
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:28,080
favour?

2728
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:32,080
>> Thank you. Les personnes

2729
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,080
présentes peuvent s'adresser au

2730
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:37,080
Conseil concernant les points

2731
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,080
17,1 à 17 virgule. The persons

2732
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,080
present may address Council on

2733
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,080
the items 17.1 and 17.2 for

2734
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,080
minor exemption.

2735
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,080
17.1 Considérer une demande de

2736
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:48,080
dérogation mineure concernant la

2737
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:49,080
propriété située au 25, avenue

2738
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,080
Claremont. Pour permettre une

2739
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,080
clôture d'une hauteur de 1,82

2740
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,080
mètres situé en marge avant,

2741
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,080
plus que le maximum permis de 1

2742
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:02,040
mètre. Vous avez une

2743
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,040
recommandation favorable du

2744
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:09,040
Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.

2745
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,040
>> 17.2 Consider a minor

2746
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,040
exemption request concerning the

2747
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,040
property situated at 47 Little

2748
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:13,040
Rock Avenue. It is to permit the

2749
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,040
construction of a car port when

2750
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,040
it is not permitted by a

2751
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,040
particular provision in the E.R.

2752
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,040
49, and a car port with the

2753
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,040
sidestep pack of 1.54 metres

2754
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,040
rather than the required win of

2755
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,040
2.4 metres, and have a federal

2756
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,040
recommendation from the P.A.C..

2757
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,040
17.3 Considérer les plans

2758
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,040
d'implantation et d'intégration

2759
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,040
architecturale relatifs à la

2760
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,040
propriété située au 60, avenue

2761
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:38,040
de Breslay. C'est une rénovation

2762
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,040
de fenêtres et le retrait de la

2763
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,040
cheminée vous avez une

2764
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:45,040
recommandation favorable du CCU.

2765
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,040
>> 17 point, four Consider the

2766
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,040
site planning and architectural

2767
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,040
integration programme plans with

2768
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,040
respect to the property situated

2769
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,040
at 119 Duke-of-Kent Avenue. It

2770
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,040
is concerning the removal of

2771
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,040
horizontal wood cladding on part

2772
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,040
of the first floor front facade

2773
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,040
to be replaced by artificial

2774
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,040
stone cladding. You have an

2775
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,000
unfavourable recommendation from

2776
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,000
the PRC.

2777
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,000
17.5 Considérer les plans

2778
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,000
d'implantation et d'intégration

2779
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,000
architecturale relatifs à la

2780
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,000
propriété située au 107, avenue

2781
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:08,000
de la Pointe-Claire. Pour un

2782
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:09,000
changement de couleur démolir

2783
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,000
des fenêtres et des

2784
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,000
modifications au design de la

2785
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,000
véranda. Vous avez également une

2786
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:20,000
recommandation favorable du CCU.

2787
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,000
>> 17.6 Consider the site

2788
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,000
planning and architectural

2789
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,000
integration programme plans with

2790
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,000
respect to the property situated

2791
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,000
at 8 Victoria Avenue. It is

2792
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,000
concerning the change of the

2793
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,000
colour of the siding, the doors,

2794
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,000
and the windows, and to modify

2795
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,000
architectural details, and you

2796
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000
have the favourable

2797
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:34,000
recommendation from the Planning

2798
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,000
Advisory Committee. Pour 17,1

2799
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:39,000
17,6... 18.1 Approuver une

2800
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,000
entente à intervenir avec le

2801
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,000
Club de golf Beaconsfield pour

2802
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,000
l'implantation d'une piste de

2803
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,000
ski de fonds pour la saison

2804
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,000
hivernale 2024-2025. Do I have a

2805
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,000
mover?

2806
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,000
>> Brent Cowan, I moved to

2807
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,000
accept and confirm the

2808
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,000
recommendations of the Planning

2809
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,000
Advisory Committee for items 17

2810
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,000
point 12 items 17.6. Brent

2811
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,000
Cowan, district eight.

2812
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,000
>> And seconder?

2813
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,000
>> Tara Stainforth, district

2814
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,000
four.

2815
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,000
>> All in favour?

2816
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,000
>> Thank you.

2817
01:36:02,060 --> 01:36:04,060
Cette entente permet la mission

2818
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:05,060
d'opérations d'une piste de ski

2819
01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:06,060
de fond toute la saison sur un

2820
01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:07,060
terrain qui n'est pas la

2821
01:36:07,060 --> 01:36:11,060
propriété de la ville. >> 18.2

2822
01:36:11,060 --> 01:36:12,060
Approve a lease to be entered

2823
01:36:12,060 --> 01:36:13,060
into with Nada Niwan and Elie

2824
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:14,060
Merheb for the food concession

2825
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:18,060
at the Bob-Birne Arena. En 18,1

2826
01:36:18,060 --> 01:36:20,060
à 18,2... 18.3 Approuver une

2827
01:36:20,060 --> 01:36:21,060
entente à intervenir avec le

2828
01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:22,060
Club aquatique de Pointe-Claire

2829
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:23,060
Inc. Do I have a mover?

2830
01:36:23,060 --> 01:36:24,060
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

2831
01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:27,060
>> And seconder?

2832
01:36:27,060 --> 01:36:28,060
>>

2833
01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:29,060
>> All in favour?

2834
01:36:29,060 --> 01:36:33,060
>> Mr. Stork. Thank you.

2835
01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:35,060
Concernant l'établissement des

2836
01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:36,060
lignes directrices de

2837
01:36:36,060 --> 01:36:37,060
fonctionnement du Club, les

2838
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:38,060
modalités et les conditions

2839
01:36:38,060 --> 01:36:39,060
relatives au versement, par la

2840
01:36:39,060 --> 01:36:40,060
Ville, d'une subvention annuelle

2841
01:36:40,060 --> 01:36:41,060
de fonctionnement et la mise à

2842
01:36:41,060 --> 01:36:42,060
disposition du Club des

2843
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:43,060
installations et du matériel

2844
01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:44,060
nécessaires à la réalisation de

2845
01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:49,060
tout plan d'action.

2846
01:36:53,060 --> 01:36:57,060
>> For 18.3, do I have a mover?

2847
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:58,060
>> Paul Bissonnette, district

2848
01:36:58,060 --> 01:36:59,060
two.

2849
01:36:59,060 --> 01:37:02,020
>> And seconder?

2850
01:37:02,020 --> 01:37:04,020
>> All in favour?

2851
01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:07,020
>> Thank you. 18.4 Approve a

2852
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:08,020
financial aid agreement to be

2853
01:37:08,020 --> 01:37:09,020
entered into between the City of

2854
01:37:09,020 --> 01:37:10,020
Pointe-Claire and AlterGo, in

2855
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,020
accordance with the Recreational

2856
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:13,020
Assistance for Persons with

2857
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:14,020
Disabilities Program of the

2858
01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:15,020
ministre de l'Éducation, du

2859
01:37:15,020 --> 01:37:16,020
Loisir et du Sport, for the

2860
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:17,020
implementation of the leisure

2861
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:18,020
support program of the Island of

2862
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:19,020
Montreal for 2024-2025

2863
01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:20,020
(PALÎM)

2864
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:24,020
. This financial assistance

2865
01:37:24,020 --> 01:37:25,020
program provide the support

2866
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:27,020
service for kids attending the

2867
01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:28,020
City of Pointe-Claire's day

2868
01:37:28,020 --> 01:37:29,020
camps.

2869
01:37:29,020 --> 01:37:33,020
>> For 18.4, do I have a mover?

2870
01:37:33,020 --> 01:37:34,020
>> Tara Stainforth, district

2871
01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:35,020
four.

2872
01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:36,020
>> And seconder?

2873
01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:37,020
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

2874
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:42,020
>> All in favour? 19,1, projet

2875
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:45,020
de contamination de

2876
01:37:45,020 --> 01:37:47,020
réhabilitation des sols des lots

2877
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:49,020
deux cinq neuf c'est dix à huit

2878
01:37:49,020 --> 01:37:52,020
des 4 millions 254 à 275 du

2879
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:55,020
canal du Québec. C'est des lots

2880
01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:57,020
situés au 173 et 173 c'est

2881
01:37:57,020 --> 01:38:00,080
avenue Cartier. Dans le cas du

2882
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,080
programme climat seul plus du

2883
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:02,080
ministère de l'Environnement de

2884
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,080
la lutte contre les changements

2885
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,080
climatiques, il s'agit d'appuyer

2886
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,080
le projet de côté comme telle

2887
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,080
nation et réhabilitation des

2888
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,080
sols des lots précédemment

2889
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,080
mentionnés et le dépôt par le

2890
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,080
propriétaire de l'immeuble

2891
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,080
(intervention en anglais)

2892
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,080
de la demande d'aide financière

2893
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:19,080
dans le cadre du programme qui

2894
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,080
va seul plus du mystère de

2895
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,080
l'environnement de la lutte

2896
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,080
contre les changements

2897
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,080
climatiques du gouvernement du

2898
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,080
Québec.

2899
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,080
- Par 19 points...

2900
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,080
Do I have a mover?

2901
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,080
- Bruno Tremblay, district six.

2902
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,080
>> And seconder?

2903
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,080
>> I'll second. Brent Cowan, but

2904
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,080
I'd like to go ahead and make a

2905
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,080
comment. This is actually an

2906
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,080
exercise in transparency. The

2907
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,080
contract -- or the owner

2908
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,080
contractor wants to get a grant

2909
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,080
in order to assist in the

2910
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,080
contamination of the soil around

2911
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,080
his property on Cartier. The

2912
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,080
government, in order -- the

2913
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,080
government of Québec, in order

2914
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,080
to issue that, grant requires

2915
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,080
that the City of Pointe-Claire

2916
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,040
know about it and approved the

2917
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,040
idea, acknowledge the idea. That

2918
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,040
means that you know about it so

2919
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,040
that this is a requirement for

2920
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:10,040
the grant, so the chain of

2921
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:11,040
transparency means the citizens

2922
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,040
of Pointe-Claire are aware that

2923
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,040
this decontamination project

2924
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:18,040
going on on that particular

2925
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:19,040
address on Cartier, which means

2926
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,040
if you live around there, you

2927
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,040
can -- you are now alerted. So I

2928
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:26,040
think it's an important lesson

2929
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,040
in how transparency Works and

2930
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,040
Government. So I second this

2931
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,040
motion.

2932
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,040
>> All in favour?

2933
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,040
>> Foreclosure, do I have a

2934
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:39,040
mover?

2935
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,040
>> I need to, close Tara

2936
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:41,040
Stainforth, district four.

2937
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,040
>> And seconder?

2938
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,040
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

2939
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,040
Bonsoir merci tout le monde! >>

2940
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,040
All in favour? Thanks, thanks

2941
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:49,040
folks.

2942
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,040
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