[0:07] Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs.
[0:10] Bienvenue à la séance ordinaire
[0:11] du 1er octobre 2024 est.
[0:19] C'est avec regret que nous avons
[0:21] appris le décès d'un employé
[0:24] retraité à l'incriminer en date
[0:26] du 17 septembre dernier. Il a
[0:29] travaillé comme cols bleus à la
[0:31] Ville de Pointe-Claire pendant
[0:33] 28 ans jusqu'à sa retraite en
[0:36] 2017. Nous offrons toutes nos
[0:40] condoléances à sa famille et ses
[0:43] amis. Allen cream or worked as a
[0:45] blue collar worker for the City
[0:46] of Pointe-Claire for 28 years
[0:48] until his retirement in 2017. We
[0:50] offer our condolences to his
[0:52] family and friends. Nous avons
[0:55] appris le décès d'un ancien
[0:57] conseiller municipal, monsieur
[0:59] Denis Francis Smith le 18
[1:02] septembre à l'âge de 74 ans. Il
[1:05] a représenté les districts sept
[1:08] de 2005 à 2017. Nous allons lui
[1:12] rendre hommage à la prochaine
[1:14] séance du conseil. Nous tenons a
[1:18] bien souligné son importante
[1:20] contribution à la Ville de
[1:22] Pointe-Claire. We have learned
[1:23] of the passing of former
[1:24] municipal councillor Mr. Denis
[1:26] Francis Smith on September 18th,
[1:27] at the age of 74.
[1:31] He represented district seven
[1:33] Northview from 2005 to 2017. We
[1:37] will be paying tribute to him at
[1:39] the next council meeting. We
[1:41] will highlight his important
[1:43] contribution to the City of
[1:44] Pointe-Claire. Comme nous sommes
[1:48] à l'approche de la saison
[1:50] hivernale nous ou... nous vous
[1:52] informons que les dernières
[1:57] collecte d'encombrant de matelas
[1:59] et sommier et trois découle
[2:01] semblent très s'est vaquent
[2:02] Huron au mois d'octobre. Voici
[2:05] l'horaire des collectes. Le 2
[2:08] octobre, secteur à: matelas et
[2:12] sommier. Le 3 octobre secteurs
[2:15] Bay: matelas et sommier. Le 9
[2:18] octobre: secteur A et B
[2:21] encombrant. Le 19 octobre:
[2:24] l'écocentre de la cour des
[2:25] Travaux publics. Les branches
[2:28] seront ramassés par les équipes
[2:30] des Travaux publics sur une base
[2:34] régulière jusqu'au 31 octobre.
[2:35] Il n'est pas nécessaire d'en
[2:37] faire la demande. La collecte de
[2:41] feuilles aura lieu les lundis à
[2:42] tous les deux semaines dès le 7
[2:47] octobre entre 7 heures et 18
[2:49] heures. Alors tes journées de
[2:51] collecte, vous pourrez déposer
[2:53] vos contenants et sac des
[2:54] feuilles en papier en bordure de
[2:57] rue. Toutes ces informations se
[3:00] retrouvent sur notre site Web.
[3:04] As we approach the winter
[3:05] season, we would like to inform
[3:06] you that the last collections of
[3:07] wood and bulky items, to
[3:08] mattresses and box springs and
[3:09] three, ecocentre, will take
[3:10] place in October.
[3:15] The upcoming collections go as
[3:17] follows. October 2nd, sector a
[3:21] mattresses and box springs.
[3:22] October 3rd, sector be,
[3:24] mattresses and box springs.
[3:25] October 9th, sector A and B,
[3:29] bulky items. October 19th, the
[3:31] eco centre at the public works
[3:33] yard. Branches will be collected
[3:35] by the public works teams on a
[3:36] regular basis until October
[3:39] 31st. There is no need to call
[3:41] the city for this collection. À
[3:44] la suite de plus abondante de la
[3:45] tempête d'habits
[3:46] (inaudible)
[3:47] pour faire suite à la tempête du
[3:48] 9 août dernier qui a laissé ses
[3:49] traces dans les immeubles de la
[3:50] ville et chez plusieurs citoyens
[3:51] et citoyennes de Pointe-Claire
[3:52] et partout au Québec, je
[3:53] souhaite simplement partager
[3:54] avec vous quelques éléments
[3:55] d'information que nous sommes en
[3:56] train de regrouper à la ville.
[3:57] Leaf collections will take place
[3:58] on Mondays every two weeks
[3:59] starting on October 7th between
[4:00] 7 am and six PM. On collection
[4:01] days, leave your containers and
[4:02] or paper bags at the curb. This
[4:03] information can all be found on
[4:04] our website.
[4:29] Les événements nous ont surpris.
[4:33] Nous savions que nous attendions
[4:35] des pluies abondantes mais nous
[4:38] ne savions pas que ces pluies
[4:40] tomberait dans un si court laps
[4:42] de temps. Ces précipitations
[4:45] rapides et intenses sont
[4:47] essentiellement à la base des
[4:49] problèmes survenus.
[4:52] Présentement, nos équipes
[4:53] prévoit les plans d'urgence pour
[4:55] mieux préparer la ville à une
[4:57] prochaine urgence climatique et
[4:59] pour mieux protéger nos
[5:01] immeubles publics. Nous allons
[5:04] aussi mettre de l'avant un plan
[5:05] de communication qui viendra
[5:08] départager les responsabilités
[5:10] de la ville et celle des
[5:12] citoyens dans le cas de ces
[5:13] épisodes de crise climatique.
[5:16] Ces plan viendra donner des
[5:19] conseils et des informations aux
[5:21] personnes qui pourraient être
[5:23] affectées par des nouvelles
[5:26] intempéries. Nous devons mieux
[5:28] nous préparer et c'est notre
[5:31] volonté de vous accompagner dans
[5:33] cette préparation.
[5:37] To follow up on the storm of
[5:38] August 9th, which left its mark
[5:40] on the cities buildings and on
[5:41] many citizens of Pointe-Claire
[5:42] and throughout Québec, I would
[5:44] simply like to share information
[5:45] that we are currently in the
[5:47] process of compiling for
[5:50] residents. We know we are
[5:52] expecting heavy rainfall but we
[5:53] did not know it would fall in
[5:54] such a short period of time. The
[5:56] rapid and intensity of the
[5:58] rainfall is essentially the
[5:59] source of the problems that have
[6:01] arisen. Our teams are currently
[6:03] reviewing emergency plans to
[6:04] better prepare the city for a
[6:05] next weather emergency, and also
[6:08] to better protect our public
[6:11] buildings. We will also be
[6:13] putting forward a communication
[6:14] plan that will explain and
[6:16] separate the responsibilities of
[6:17] the City from those of citizens.
[6:20] In the event of a weather
[6:22] related danger. This plan will
[6:25] provide advice and information
[6:26] to all those affected by a
[6:28] future weather emergency. We all
[6:30] need to be better prepared and
[6:31] that is exactly what the City
[6:33] wants to help you do. Bris
[6:37] d'aqueduc majeur. Vendredi soir
[6:39] dernier, nous avons eu un bris
[6:44] d'aqueduc important d'conduite
[6:47] de 24 pouces. Plusieurs facteurs
[6:50] ont contribué à ce bris. À ce
[6:54] moment-ci, les travailleurs
[6:55] d'inspections sont terminés. Nos
[6:57] équipes collaborent avec les
[6:59] équipes de la Ville de Montréal,
[7:02] car il s'agit d'une conduite
[7:04] sous la responsabilité de
[7:08] l'agglomération. Ils sont à
[7:10] l'étape de là-bas ration du plan
[7:12] pour les réparations. Nos
[7:15] principales préoccupations était
[7:17] de redonner l'accès à l'eau
[7:19] potable à nos citoyens. À ce
[7:22] jour, une seule adresse n'a pas
[7:26] accès à l'eau. Nous devrons
[7:28] mettre sur pied une solution
[7:31] temporaire. La durée des travaux
[7:35] est à être déterminé. Nous avons
[7:38] eu un deuxième bris ce week-end
[7:40] qui a été réparé dès le
[7:44] lendemain. L'équipe des Travaux
[7:45] publics à travailler fort et je
[7:48] tiens à les remercier
[7:50] chaleureusement pour leur
[7:52] disponibilité et la qualité de
[7:53] leur travail.
[7:56] Last Friday evening, we had a
[7:57] major water break on a 24 inch
[7:59] pipe. Several factors
[8:01] contributed to this situation.
[8:03] Currently, the inspection work
[8:04] is being completed. Our teams
[8:07] are working with the crews from
[8:08] the City of Montréal as this
[8:10] pipe is under the responsibility
[8:11] of the agglomeration. They are
[8:14] in the process of drawing up a
[8:16] plan for the repairs. Our main
[8:18] concern was to restore access to
[8:20] drinking water for our citizens.
[8:22] As of today, only one address
[8:24] has no access to water. We are
[8:27] working on a temporary solution.
[8:29] The duration of the work is to
[8:31] be determined. We had a
[8:33] secondary water main break over
[8:34] the weekend, which was repaired
[8:36] the next day. The public works
[8:39] employees worked very hard and I
[8:40] would like to thank them for
[8:41] their availability and the
[8:43] quality of their work. They were
[8:44] there from the beginning it
[8:46] happened to the end, and
[8:48] nonstop. It was truly admirable.
[8:52] Action de grâces, horaires des
[8:54] services municipaux. En raison
[8:55] de la fête de l'Action de grâce
[8:57] les bureaux administratifs de la
[8:59] Ville de Pointe-Claire un et
[9:02] deux la bibliothèque publique et
[9:04] trois le Centre culturel Stewart
[9:06] Roy sera fermé le lundi 14
[9:09] octobre. Pour qu'on s'...
[9:11] consultez les horaires du centre
[9:13] aquatique de l'aréna
[9:14] (inaudible)
[9:15] est du centre sportif nous
[9:18] invitons à consulter la section
[9:20] sport et loisirs du site Web de
[9:22] la ville. Veuillez prendre en
[9:25] note qu'à compter de mardi le 15
[9:27] octobre, l'hôtel de ville et les
[9:30] services municipaux seront
[9:31] ouverts du lundi au vendredi,
[9:33] dès 8 heures 30 à 16 heures 30.
[9:37] Due to the Thanksgiving holiday,
[9:38] the City of Pointe-Claire's
[9:39] administrative offices, as well
[9:40] as the public library and
[9:41] Stewart Hall cultural centre,
[9:42] will be closed on Monday,
[9:43] October 14th.
[9:47] For specific schedules for the
[9:49] Bob-Birnie arena, aquatic
[9:51] centre, or excuse me, the
[9:52] Bob-Birnie aquatic centre and
[9:54] arena, and the Olive-Urquhart
[9:57] Sports Centre, please consult
[9:58] the sports and recreation
[10:00] section of the City's website.
[10:01] Please note that as of Tuesday,
[10:02] October 15th, City Hall and the
[10:05] administrative services will be
[10:07] open Monday to Friday from 8:30
[10:09] a.m. to 4:30 PM. Now, before we
[10:14] proceed to question period, we
[10:15] should probably begin with
[10:17] Councillor reports. Let's start
[10:19] with district eight, Councillor
[10:22] Cowan.
[10:25] >> If things degenerate there
[10:26] into a regional war, which it
[10:27] very well could, we would be on
[10:28] the cusp of a global war.
[10:29] Bonsoir, je crois qu'on peut
[10:30] procéder ce soir, si on
[10:31] réfléchit un peu à la situation
[10:32] au Moyen-Orient qui est très
[10:33] grave et très sérieuse.
[10:46] I think people should think
[10:47] about that, think about the
[10:49] consequences going forward.
[10:52] Sorry to bring that to your
[10:54] attention, but it's very serious
[10:56] what is happening right now.
[11:00] Conseiller Cousineau.
[11:05] - >> Just to add to the
[11:07] complements addressed to our
[11:10] personnel on the breakage, the
[11:15] city was really ready. It went
[11:19] as smooth as it could have. It
[11:22] was a tough situation in
[11:26] management, management played
[11:28] their role. Well, management and
[11:32] the rest of the workers were
[11:36] ready. So, I want to thank them.
[11:39] Thank you.
[11:42] >> Councillor Stainforth?
[11:46] Councillor Bissonnette?
[11:48] >> Yeah, good evening. There's
[11:51] good news for lakeshore. For
[11:53] years, we've been talking about
[11:54] the condition of the road. It's
[11:57] like a country road but it's not
[11:59] supposed to be in the country,
[12:01] with all the potholes and that.
[12:04] So, we started a program, I
[12:05] guess it was 2017, 19, and the
[12:09] idea was to start paving from
[12:11] sources road to the village. Not
[12:13] at one time but, you know, over
[12:15] a period of time. So we got up
[12:17] to rain or drive, which is about
[12:19] halfway to Milroy there and
[12:22] since then, we were not able to
[12:23] do it. There were different
[12:24] things going on, work and what
[12:26] have you in the area. So, it was
[12:28] put on hold. However, next year
[12:32] from -- drive, it'll go all the
[12:33] way to the canoe club. So, that
[12:36] will be paving, resurfacing, not
[12:40] digging up the pipes, not
[12:41] digging up anything because
[12:42] there are no water main breaks
[12:44] there. That's one of the
[12:45] downfalls of that road because
[12:46] there are no breaks. However, it
[12:48] is going to be resurfaced,
[12:51] sidewalks will be repaired if
[12:53] they were damaged, they will be
[12:55] fixed. And borders. So, that is
[12:58] good news and then in the
[13:00] future, every year we will be
[13:01] doing another section until we
[13:03] get as far as the village there.
[13:06] Les bonnes nouvelles c'est que
[13:07] sur le chemin bord du lac, ça
[13:09] fait des années qu'on se plaint
[13:10] qu'il y a une mauvaise condition
[13:12] mais un programme qu'on a débuté
[13:14] en 2017 pour le
[13:19] (inaudible)
[13:20] du chemin, on s'est rendu
[13:22] jusqu'à
[13:23] (inaudible)
[13:24] on a fait un bout de chemin.
[13:25] Ensuite, on est obligé
[13:26] d'attendre parce qu'il y a eu
[13:27] des travaux dans le secteur
[13:28] depuis quelques années. Mais là,
[13:31] l'année prochaine à partir des
[13:33] Rangers jusqu'au club de Cannes
[13:35] ça va être pavée. Les trottoirs
[13:37] vont être réparés. Ils
[13:38] n'arrachement pas les trottoirs
[13:39] ils vont réparer ceux qui sont
[13:41] endommagés et les bordures. Donc
[13:43] c'est quand même bien par la
[13:45] suite ils vont continuer les
[13:47] projets jusqu'au village. Des
[13:49] bonnes nouvelles, merci.
[13:52] Good evening.
[13:54] >> Councillor Homan? - Je
[13:56] voudrais partager quelques
[14:00] remerciements au nom de la
[14:02] conseillère
[14:03] (inaudible)
[14:04] du district de trois. Elle est
[14:05] en déplacement pour l'hôpital
[14:07] mais elle ne voulait pas manquer
[14:08] la question de remercier une
[14:12] valoir Diane qui lui est cher.
[14:13] Beaucoup d'entrevues ont aimé
[14:17] fréquenter
[14:18] (inaudible)
[14:19] pour son excellent pain, ces
[14:20] petits déjeuners, c'est sûr,
[14:21] c'est sandwich et bien plus
[14:23] encore. Ne vous inquiète pas,
[14:31] (inaudible)
[14:32] le fondateur qui en a pris sa
[14:33] retraite. Nous tenons à
[14:36] remercier Ken d'avoir participé
[14:38] à la Fondation du village
[14:40] Valois. Votre esprit est votre
[14:43] gentillesse resteront à jamais
[14:45] dans nos mémoires. Nous sommes
[14:49] sûrs que nous vous verrons
[14:51] encore dans les parages. Mais
[14:53] maintenant, en tant que
[14:54] retraité. Profitez bien de cette
[14:56] nouvelle étape de votre vie.
[14:58] Vous l'avez bien mérité. I would
[15:01] like to share some thoughts and
[15:03] appreciation on behalf of
[15:04] Councillor Kelly Thorstad-Cullen
[15:06] of district three. She's
[15:08] travelling from the hospital but
[15:09] did not want to miss the
[15:11] opportunity to share -- many of
[15:13] you have enjoyed frequenting the
[15:15] den for their terrific bread,
[15:18] breakfasts, soups, sandwiches,
[15:20] and more. And do not worry, they
[15:22] are still open but the founder,
[15:24] can, has retired, with his wife,
[15:26] meaning. We want to thank you,
[15:28] can, for being part of the
[15:29] fabric of Valois village. Your
[15:31] spirit and kindness will forever
[15:32] be remembered and we are sure
[15:34] that we will see you around, but
[15:36] now as a retiree. Enjoy this
[15:38] next phase of your life, well
[15:41] deserved.
[15:42] >> Councillor Tremblay?
[15:44] Councillor Stork?
[15:51] Bonjour à tous. Welcome to
[15:53] everybody. J'aimerais d'abord
[15:55] mentionner premièrement que le
[15:59] cinquième
[16:00] (inaudible)
[16:01] de Eriksen les menait organisée
[16:02] par Steve Cohen a permis de
[16:06] ramasser 6740 Cat dollars pour
[16:07] l'hôpital de Montréal pour les
[16:10] enfants. C'est trois fois plus
[16:12] haut, trois fois le montant
[16:14] qu'ils ont récoltés en 2023.
[16:16] Félicitations à Steve et toute
[16:17] son équipe, pour un événement
[16:19] aussi incroyable. Je vous
[16:20] recommande fortement d'y
[16:21] assister la nuit prochaine.
[16:24] Maintenant, sur une autre note
[16:25] plus sérieuse. Lors de la
[16:27] réunion publique des mois
[16:28] dernier, j'ai déclaré que gérez
[16:30] à mes préoccupations concernant
[16:32] les commentaires faits de lors
[16:34] de la réunion publique du
[16:36] conseil l'an dernier concernant
[16:37] les commentaires faites par
[16:39] rapport à l'opposition du projet
[16:41] fait par l'unanimité du conseil
[16:42] l'année dernière derrière le
[16:45] (inaudible)
[16:46] sur Saint-Jean. Il y a des
[16:47] nombreuses précisions que je
[16:48] pourrais apporter, mais je vais
[16:50] vraiment me concentrer sur la
[16:51] déclaration sur laquelle il
[16:52] aimerait voir des triplex sur un
[16:55] maximum de six étages sur ce
[16:57] site. Une telle déclaration est
[17:00] dénué dans
[17:01] (inaudible)
[17:02] financière. Lors de cette
[17:03] analyse est effectuée, elle n'a
[17:06] aucun sens. Permettez-moi de
[17:08] vous expliquer. En référence aux
[17:10] triplex et en fonction de tous
[17:11] les variables associés, grandeur
[17:14] des terrains, prix d'achat,
[17:16] coûts de construction,
[17:18] rentabilité minimal et d'autres
[17:19] éléments connexes, le nombre
[17:21] maximum des triplex pourrait
[17:23] être construit sur ce terrain
[17:25] sur dix triplex. Le coût de
[17:28] chaque triplex de 3,5 millions
[17:30] de dollars. Oui, 3,5 millions de
[17:33] dollars chaque. Financé 3,5
[17:37] millions de dollars autant
[17:38] actuelles du marché entraînerait
[17:41] un versement hypothécaire
[17:42] mensuel de dix... 17500 dollars.
[17:46] Est-ce que c'est logique? Selon
[17:48] vous? Quel sera le loyer pour un
[17:50] éventuel locataire? Il n'y a
[17:52] aucune
[17:53] (inaudible)
[17:54] financière dans un tas
[17:55] ignorions, car ces duplex ne
[17:57] vendrais jamais à 3,5 millions
[17:58] de dollars et ne serait
[18:00] certainement pas rentable. Voici
[18:02] l'un des faits relatifs à un
[18:04] immeuble de six étages au lieu
[18:05] de 12 étages. Le coût du terrain
[18:08] reste la même. Le coup du pied
[18:11] carré reste fondamentalement la
[18:12] même. Le nombre total des
[18:15] logements est pratiquement
[18:16] réduit de moitié. Lorsque toutes
[18:19] les variables sont calculées,
[18:21] l'augmentation du loyer pour une
[18:24] locataires d'un immeuble de si
[18:25] cet âge par rapport annuel de 12
[18:28] étages est un peu moins de 50%
[18:30] plus cher. Oui, 50% plus ça.
[18:35] Cela étant dit, si le loyer
[18:36] était de 1000 par mois pour un
[18:38] immeuble de 12 étages et
[18:40] seulement désormais de 3000 pour
[18:42] un immeuble de six étages.
[18:43] Est-ce que c'est faisable selon
[18:45] vous? Combien d'appartements
[18:47] seraient loués. Pas beaucoup,
[18:49] c'est sûr. Depuis, aucun
[18:51] promoteur ne pourrait obtenir le
[18:52] financement bancaire pour un tel
[18:54] projet et aucun citoyen pourrait
[18:56] se permettrait de payer les
[18:59] loyers. Il n'y a donc aucune
[19:01] faisabilité pour le bâtiment
[19:02] dessus cet âge de six dans les
[19:05] circonstances actuelles. Ma
[19:06] conclusion de cette analogie
[19:09] inquiétante, nous avons la
[19:10] responsabilité morale de mener
[19:11] les recherches appropriées, de
[19:13] faire preuve d'intelligence
[19:15] raisonnable et de ne pas
[19:17] contentés de faire des
[19:19] déclarations superficielles,
[19:21] peut-être plus par aventurer
[19:22] dénué de bon sens. S'il y a des
[19:25] questions concernant mon
[19:27] évaluation ou un besoin de
[19:28] précisions sur les commentaires,
[19:30] je serais disponible après cette
[19:31] réunion ou par email pour
[19:33] pouvoir en discuter davantage.
[19:35] Merci!
[19:37] I would first like to mention
[19:38] that the fifth adults lyrics for
[19:40] lemonade effect organized by
[19:41] Steve Cohen and his family held
[19:42] at Northview Park a few weeks
[19:43] ago raise $6,744 for the
[19:47] Montréal children's hospital. A
[19:48] small, a little event organized
[19:50] by a dad, his wife, and his
[19:52] three kids. This is three times
[19:53] the amount raised in 2023.
[19:56] Congrats to Steve and his entire
[19:57] crew for such an amazing event.
[19:59] I would strongly recommend that
[20:01] you all at and next year. Now on
[20:02] a more serious note. At last
[20:05] month's public meeting, I stated
[20:07] that I would address my concerns
[20:08] on comments made during the last
[20:10] month's Public Council meeting,
[20:12] regarding comments made in
[20:13] opposition to the project
[20:14] approved unanimously by Council
[20:16] last week being the project
[20:18] behind the second cup on St.
[20:20] John's, the affordable housing
[20:21] project. There are numerous
[20:23] clarifications to be made that I
[20:24] could address. However, I really
[20:26] want to focus on the statement
[20:28] that they would like to see
[20:29] their triplexes or a maximum of
[20:31] six storeys at this site. Such a
[20:34] statement is void of financial
[20:36] analysis and when the financial
[20:37] analysis is done, it makes no
[20:39] sense whatsoever. Allow me to
[20:41] explain. In reference to
[20:44] triplexes and based on all the
[20:45] pertaining associated variables,
[20:47] size of the lot, purchase price,
[20:49] building cost, minimal
[20:51] profitability, and other related
[20:52] elements, the maximum number of
[20:54] triplexes that could be built on
[20:55] this site would be ten
[20:57] triplexes. With the cost of each
[21:00] triplex, when all is said and
[21:01] done, would be three point $5
[21:03] million each. Yes, three point
[21:05] $5 million each. To finance
[21:07] three point $5 million at
[21:09] current market rates, it would
[21:11] result in a monthly mortgage
[21:12] payment of $17,500. Does that
[21:15] make sense? What do you believe
[21:17] the rent would be to a possible
[21:19] tenant on such a project? There
[21:20] is no financial viability to
[21:22] such a scenario, as these
[21:24] duplexes would never select 3.5
[21:25] million each and definitely
[21:27] would not be rental. Now, here
[21:29] are the facts pertaining to a
[21:30] six storey building instead of a
[21:31] 12 storey building. The cost of
[21:33] the land remains the same. The
[21:35] cost of a square foot to build
[21:36] basically remains the same.
[21:38] However, the total quantity of
[21:39] rental units is basically cut in
[21:41] half. When all these variables
[21:42] are calculated, the increase in
[21:44] the rent for a tenant in a six
[21:46] storey building, versus a 12
[21:47] storey building, is just under
[21:50] 50%. Yeah, 50%. That being said,
[21:54] if the rent were 2000 per month
[21:56] in 12 storey building, it would
[21:58] now be 3000 for a six storey
[22:00] building. Is that feasible? Not
[22:03] many, that's for sure, would be
[22:05] rented. As well, no developer
[22:06] would even get financing for the
[22:08] bank for such a project and no
[22:10] citizens could afford to rent
[22:11] them. Thus, it's clear that
[22:13] there is no feasibility for a
[22:14] six storey building at this
[22:15] location under the current
[22:17] circumstances. My closing
[22:19] statement on this matter is as
[22:21] elected officials, we have a
[22:22] moral responsibility to produce
[22:23] proper research and do
[22:25] appropriate due diligence, and
[22:26] not just make shallow comments
[22:27] that are misleading in nature
[22:29] and potentially void of common
[22:31] sense. If anyone has any
[22:32] questions on this assessment or
[22:34] requires further clarification,
[22:35] I will be available after this
[22:37] meeting or by email and we can
[22:38] talk further. Thank you. We
[22:41] >> Thank you, Councillor Stork.
[22:44] So, just as an overall comment,
[22:48] we we have quadrupled --
[22:53] neighbours introducing
[22:54] residential units, and we had
[22:56] the single highest rent increase
[22:58] in the country last year. So, no
[23:01] matter how you spin the
[23:03] economics, no matter how it
[23:05] goes, affordability seems to be
[23:07] a real challenge and I don't
[23:09] think that going higher,
[23:11] building more, and making it
[23:13] more profitable for the
[23:14] developer, will solve that
[23:16] crisis of affordability. And it
[23:18] has not in the past, and we have
[23:20] seen the evidence of that. So, I
[23:22] would simply fact check things,
[23:24] go back and look at the
[23:25] statements people have made, and
[23:27] you will see that sometimes, we
[23:29] have to prioritize the citizen,
[23:31] the citizen and the quality of
[23:33] life, as opposed to the profits
[23:34] of a developer. So, before we
[23:37] proceed into question period,
[23:40] Pour la période de questions,
[23:42] vous avez été...
[23:43] >> Can we just adopt the agenda
[23:45] first?
[23:46] >> Sorry, thanks.
[23:47] - Un verglas un, adoption de
[23:48] l'ordre du jour. >> No problem.
[23:49] >> 1.1, adoption of the agenda
[23:51] with two changes. Avec deux
[23:52] changements. The withdrawal of
[23:56] the M 6.1 in 6.2. And the second
[23:59] change is the addition under
[24:04] section, varia section of the
[24:06] following item. Soil
[24:10] decontamination, rehabilitation
[24:11] process on two lots located at
[24:15] 173, 173 C Cartier Avenue.
[24:18] Dans le cadre du programme
[24:20] climat seul plus du ministère de
[24:22] l'Environnement et de la lutte
[24:23] contre les changements
[24:24] climatiques. Alors, l'ajout du
[24:26] point 19,1 à la section varia
[24:28] projets d'économie...
[24:30] décontamination et des sols de
[24:31] deux lots situés à 173, 173
[24:34] c'est avenue Cartier dans le
[24:35] cadre du programme climat seul
[24:37] plus dans le ministère de
[24:38] l'Environnement et de la lutte
[24:39] contre les changements
[24:40] climatiques.
[24:43] >> For the adoption of the
[24:45] agenda, do I have a mover?
[24:48] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[24:50] four.
[24:51] >> And seconder?
[24:52] - Paul Bissonnette, historique
[24:53] de.
[24:55] >> All in favour?
[24:59] - Approuver le procès-verbal de
[25:01] la séance ordinaire du 3
[25:02] septembre 2024.
[25:05] >> For approving the minutes of
[25:06] the regular meeting of September
[25:08] 3rd, do I have a mover?
[25:10] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[25:12] four.
[25:13] >> And seconder?
[25:15] >> Paul Bissonnette, district
[25:17] three.
[25:18] >> All in favour? - Pour la
[25:22] période des questions, vous avez
[25:24] été accueilli à l'entrée pour
[25:25] vous inscrire à la période de
[25:28] questions. Afin de vous
[25:30] permettre de demeurer à vos
[25:32] places jusqu'à l'appel de votre
[25:35] nom, nous garderons 90 minutes
[25:37] pour la période des questions.
[25:40] Une personne à la fois au micro.
[25:42] Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[25:44] que le citoyen ait terminé de
[25:46] poser sa question et que vous
[25:47] soyez appelés avant de vous
[25:51] lever pour venir poser votre
[25:53] question. Deux, nous accordons
[25:54] la priorité aux résidentes et
[25:56] aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.
[25:59] Trois, les non-résidents
[26:02] pourront poser leurs questions
[26:03] par la suite, si le temps n'est
[26:05] pas écouler. For question
[26:08] period, you read it at the
[26:09] entrance to register for the
[26:10] question period so that you
[26:11] could remain seated until your
[26:13] name is called. You shall stick
[26:15] to the 90 minutes time limit, we
[26:17] shall stick to the 90 minute
[26:19] time limit for the question
[26:21] period. Point number one, one
[26:23] person at a time on the
[26:25] microphone. Thank you for
[26:26] waiting for a citizen to finish
[26:27] asking their question and to be
[26:29] called before you get up to ask
[26:31] yours. To, we give priority to
[26:33] Pointe-Claire residents and
[26:34] three, non residents can ask
[26:36] their questions afterwards if
[26:38] time has not run out. So, to
[26:41] begin, we will start with Mr.
[26:45] Nasr El Dabee.
[26:54] >> Good evening. First, I will
[26:55] have a comment about Mr. Eric
[26:56] Stork, what he said about the
[26:57] cost of --
[27:02] >> Well, it's question period,
[27:03] Mr. El Dabee. So, you have to
[27:05] have a prelude or preamble to
[27:07] your question. And then ask a
[27:09] question related to that
[27:11] preamble. So, you can word
[27:14] things as you wish but you have
[27:15] to have a question that follows
[27:17] up on your preamble.
[27:18] >> The question is, the
[27:25] insurance is going to pay 200,
[27:28] sorry, two billion and a half
[27:30] for all damage and claims of
[27:32] what happened on August 9th. And
[27:36] they recommended, is any city
[27:46] and risk of flooding to stop any
[27:51] building and any anything for
[27:57] the sewer and the
[28:05] to be able to handle all the
[28:10] rain and -- the second thing,
[28:16] that's what you say first, you
[28:17] stop all the expansion, all
[28:19] building. The second thing to
[28:21] avoid all that, you have already
[28:25] all our -- phone number to alert
[28:28] people from using the water
[28:31] facility because if you remember
[28:33] what happened between five PM
[28:35] and seven PM, that flood
[28:38] happened and the sewer back up
[28:40] happened. That's when it it was
[28:42] time everybody home, using the
[28:44] bathroom, and toilet, and
[28:46] shower, and washing machine,
[28:47] that's all what has happened.
[28:51] And that's what's supposed to be
[28:54] recommended to the city, risk of
[28:58] flood. So, the city is supposed
[29:00] to be, I'm just giving you an
[29:01] idea of what the insurance is
[29:03] doing because it's going to be
[29:06] some houses that insurance,
[29:09] they're not going to get
[29:10] injured. That's what you said
[29:12] because it's a risk of flooding
[29:14] too many times. And the
[29:16] valuation of the houses is going
[29:17] to be very low, and even --
[29:21] seller houses and not be able to
[29:22] get a mortgage. And the --
[29:27] administration was saying, we
[29:28] have to build high rise
[29:30] buildings and condos to lower
[29:32] the cost for operating the city,
[29:34] and too low, but it did not
[29:37] happen. So now, for the 13
[29:47] projects, there are 2100
[29:49] apartments. Plus what they -- is
[29:52] about 3000, so over 5000
[29:55] apartments, plus the 3000, the
[29:59] 360, what Mr. Eric Stork said
[30:01] there they wanted. This is over
[30:03] 5000 apartment units, so any
[30:07] rain or any storm is going to
[30:09] have a flood again. So, I'm just
[30:12] giving you an idea about what
[30:14] the insurance said, because it
[30:16] is going to be costing all of us
[30:18] a lot of money for cleanup,
[30:22] renovation, so that's what they
[30:23] recommended, to stop building
[30:26] any, anything, and expand the
[30:28] city, and to have a plan,
[30:31] serious plan, for people to stop
[30:34] using the water facility when
[30:36] there's a storm, by alert, the
[30:38] same what you're doing for us
[30:39] when you call for changing
[30:42] anything for that. So, that's my
[30:43] question. Are you going to do
[30:45] that? Because now, I see they
[30:49] want to build more and more.
[30:50] >> Are we going to do what,
[30:52] Mister El daddy? I want to get
[30:53] some precision on your question.
[30:54] >> To stop building and expand
[30:56] in the city until they fix the
[31:01] infrastructure, the sewer
[31:02] entering system. That is one
[31:04] thing. The second thing, to have
[31:06] alerts for people to stop using
[31:08] the water or all the water
[31:12] facilities when it's storming.
[31:16] Because if you see in Florida
[31:19] and Georgia, the rain is not
[31:23] measured by millimetres, it's
[31:24] being measured by feet. So,
[31:27] that's what's going to happen
[31:29] because always it starts there
[31:31] and they come here. So, that
[31:33] those are the two things. We
[31:34] have to do it right away.
[31:37] >> Okay, well I will try and
[31:38] answer that because it's pretty
[31:40] all-encompassing. We
[31:45] procedurally, I think every city
[31:47] has realized that we have to
[31:48] get, we have to work with the
[31:50] citizens to figure out what to
[31:51] do and to have it more reactive
[31:54] approach proactive process up
[31:57] front, so we can help citizens
[31:59] immediately and tell them what
[32:01] to do, what not to do. Because a
[32:02] lot of us didn't realize how
[32:04] serious it was and using a
[32:05] plumbing in the basement and
[32:06] opening taps, doing all kinds of
[32:08] things, nobody really knew about
[32:09] it. There were whole bunch of
[32:10] things that we learn from. I
[32:11] mean, our own basement was
[32:12] flooded. Dollars was flooded and
[32:14] the city halls were flooded. I
[32:15] mean, it was a learning
[32:18] experience but al for a lot of
[32:19] people, for everybody. So yes,
[32:21] having a plan, knowing what to
[32:23] do, preparing as a city, the
[32:25] citizens, along with us, yes.
[32:27] Certainly. I think everybody's
[32:31] -- I've seen other cities doing
[32:33] this as well. We're all trying
[32:34] to get an action plan and
[32:36] prepared, so that when this
[32:38] happens again, it's not if, it's
[32:40] when this happens again, we will
[32:41] be better prepared. I think
[32:42] that's on us and I think we're
[32:44] working at that. There are a
[32:47] variety of things we can do.
[32:50] Retention basements, permeable
[32:52] pavement, there are all kinds of
[32:53] tricks that we can try and
[32:55] enact. Permeable pavement has
[32:57] not yet been convincing in its
[33:00] techniques yet, since testing.
[33:02] Retention basins have. But there
[33:04] are simple things, we really
[33:05] have to know, as you can't cut
[33:07] wet lines, can't cut trees,
[33:09] can't do a lot of things that
[33:10] absorb and you can't, in the
[33:12] end, you have to let, you can't
[33:14] build over absorption ground.
[33:17] Ground that absorbs water. It is
[33:19] not a good idea. So, these are
[33:21] all things that we know about
[33:22] that we can do that city should
[33:25] enact going forward. Will that
[33:26] stop building altogether? I
[33:28] doubt it very much. There are
[33:30] commitments and contracts, and
[33:33] forward plans already in place,
[33:35] okay? And I doubt very much that
[33:37] will, I don't think anybody is
[33:38] going to stop development
[33:40] altogether until we figure out
[33:42] how to, you know, until the next
[33:44] rainstorm. But what we can do is
[33:46] try and develop techniques that
[33:48] will mitigate against flooding.
[33:51] Now, the interesting thing, to
[33:53] answer your rainstorm or your,
[33:55] sorry, your insurance query with
[33:58] the rainstorm, what I noticed is
[34:01] they're not going to identify
[34:02] specific houses. In that
[34:04] flooding, in that rainstorm,
[34:06] houses that had never been
[34:07] flooded flooded. And houses that
[34:10] had frequently been flooded did
[34:11] not flood. I mean, it defied all
[34:14] logic, that rainstorm, the
[34:16] August 9th. So, I don't think
[34:18] you can build a case against
[34:20] certain houses from it. Just in
[34:22] my personal observation, from
[34:23] what occurred there, as far as
[34:25] whether houses insurable or not,
[34:27] I don't think we had convincing
[34:28] evidence one way or the other on
[34:29] that experience. So hopefully
[34:32] those are satisfactory answers
[34:34] to what you put a lot at me. Do
[34:37] you have a subsequent follow-up,
[34:40] Mister El Dabee? Do you have a
[34:41] follow-up question?
[34:42] >> Yeah because I already asked
[34:43] the insurance company, they
[34:46] already put the city at risk of
[34:50] flooding and we think, where is
[34:52] the two and a half billion
[34:53] dollars, who's going to pay all
[34:54] of that it's us, that's just
[34:58] clear and people understand. My
[35:00] second question about --
[35:04] >> That was an all encompassing
[35:06] first question, Mr. El Dabee.
[35:08] But I will allow the second one.
[35:09] >> Because it's very important,
[35:11] the first question, really. It
[35:12] affects all of us, all of us,
[35:14] the whole city. Not only me. We
[35:18] the 14.3.
[35:35] >> There is no 13.3.
[35:38] >> 14?
[35:39] >> 14.3.
[35:40] >> Oh, I'm sorry.
[35:42] 14,3.
[35:46] >> -- He was truck for removing
[35:48] the snow from the sidewalk, the
[35:50] two small ones. They pay almost
[35:56] half 1 million dollars for two
[35:59] used trucks and the new one is
[36:01] cheaper than that. So, --
[36:03] >> I doubt that very much,
[36:07] Mister El Dabee. I'm not an
[36:08] expert at these things but do
[36:09] you actually have facts and
[36:11] figures to confirm that?
[36:12] >> By checking the website and
[36:13] the new one, I'm just asking,
[36:16] did anybody check about the new
[36:17] one? Because we pay --
[36:19] >> I have the utmost confidence
[36:21] in my administration that we're
[36:22] not paying more for a used
[36:23] vehicle than anyone. I'm quite
[36:25] confident in answering on that.
[36:27] I don't know the facts but I'm
[36:28] pretty sure, just on an act of
[36:31] faith, that we're not
[36:32] deliberately spending so much.
[36:33] >> So me as a citizen, 200,000
[36:35] for a used one -- to clean the
[36:38] sidewalk, that's a lot. Anyway,
[36:40] I hope you check all of that,
[36:42] please. Because our taxes went
[36:44] up 16 and a half percent. That's
[36:47] why we care now about all of
[36:49] what the city is spending all
[36:52] our tax dollars on. Thank you.
[36:54] God bless you all.
[36:56] >> And Mr. El Dabee, just to
[36:58] answer your first question, just
[36:59] a follow-up, there are other
[37:01] things we can do as a city as
[37:03] well, which is to stop the cause
[37:04] of climate change. And we can
[37:07] solar panel our industrial park,
[37:10] the -- municipal buildings, we
[37:11] can green roof, we can do all
[37:12] kinds of things still to
[37:14] mitigate against climate
[37:15] disaster. Over and above just
[37:17] immediate infrastructures. We
[37:19] can do all kinds of, we can so
[37:21] countries, that's first and
[37:22] foremost but there are all kinds
[37:23] of techniques that as cities, we
[37:26] have to enact going forward.
[37:28] Madame Verdun, do you have
[37:31] anything subsequent to the
[37:32] purchase of vehicles with the
[37:34] acquisition of, are we paying
[37:35] too much for a second hand
[37:37] vehicle over a new one?
[37:39] >> They are slightly used
[37:40] vehicles that have a less than
[37:42] one year use. The reason that we
[37:45] bought that used vehicle is
[37:47] because we cannot wait for new
[37:48] ones and we have to go to
[37:51] tenders. So, for the price that
[37:52] you see online, that's not the
[37:54] price that we pay. So, I'm
[37:56] pretty sure that there, you
[37:58] know, less expensive than new
[37:59] ones after we do the tender.
[38:03] >> Okay, thank you.
[38:04] >> Thank you. No, that's all the
[38:06] questions, Mister El Dabee.
[38:07] Thank you. Miss Conway, Line
[38:11] Conway?
[38:21] >> Good evening. It's a
[38:25] follow-up for I have asked in
[38:28] the past about, this is a
[38:31] follow-up because I've asked in
[38:32] the past about some new
[38:35] construction on D and -- the
[38:38] veterans corridor because last
[38:40] year, when my assistant went up,
[38:42] I ended up being 16.5% more
[38:44] taxes and I was told that my
[38:46] assessment was in relationship
[38:47] to the price of houses sold in
[38:53] my neighbourhood. So, Dieppe is
[38:57] just one block away and at 163
[39:02] Diab, I wrote an email today and
[39:06] I just want to understand how we
[39:08] go from a zoning of one car
[39:12] garage to building, the building
[39:14] already went up. It's now a two
[39:16] car garage home. Like, usually
[39:20] if I want to do something that's
[39:25] out of the usual, that doesn't
[39:27] follow the bylaw, I need to ask
[39:30] for a derogation and it gets to
[39:32] be voted but I just wanted to
[39:34] know for a new home, doesn't
[39:36] follow the same process?
[39:37] >> That's a very good question.
[39:39] As to our set procedures, as a
[39:42] one or two car garages, I think
[39:44] that's a fairly fluid section of
[39:46] our building procedures that I
[39:49] think could be ironed out a
[39:51] little better than they are
[39:52] currently ironed out. That's my
[39:54] understanding. But I'm an
[39:56] overseer, I'm not an expert. Is
[39:58] there anybody who wants to add
[40:00] to that?
[40:01] >> I don't know exactly that
[40:03] file but I'm sure if they're not
[40:05] respecting the bylaw, they need
[40:06] to ask for a minor exemption or
[40:10] maybe in that case, it could be
[40:12] -- as pay process, so I will
[40:14] have to look at that case
[40:16] carefully. But yes, they can
[40:18] have a request, something that's
[40:20] not part of the bylaw to be --
[40:22] >> Also for example, there is
[40:25] 160 through the up and also 116.
[40:27] They built it with a three car
[40:29] garage. So, I don't know how
[40:31] that happens. Like, when the
[40:33] zoning is one car garage is, it
[40:35] seems a bit extreme because when
[40:36] those houses get bought and
[40:38] sold, and that's going to affect
[40:41] the next roll assessment. I
[40:45] don't know how much I'm going to
[40:46] pay in taxes.
[40:49] >> I'm personally surprised at
[40:50] that because that's not, not an
[40:54] especially efficient use of
[40:55] building on land. Per square
[40:57] footage. So, I'm surprised at
[40:58] that but I would have to look
[40:59] into that. A three car garage at
[41:02] 116 Dieppe?
[41:03] >> Yes.
[41:05] >> Okay, thank. You
[41:06] >> Also want to make a point
[41:07] about --
[41:08] >> I think that's --
[41:11] >> The garages are on the side
[41:12] of the house.
[41:13] >> Oh, it's the same question?
[41:15] Okay.
[41:16] >> It's the house that looks
[41:17] like four times the size of my
[41:18] house.
[41:19] >> Okay.
[41:20] >> My second question, about
[41:23] global warming and these events
[41:26] that we have. With the wood
[41:29] burning, even there was a lady
[41:30] that came at the mic last year.
[41:34] She did a very nice speech about
[41:37] the stove with the pellets. It's
[41:41] as bad as burning wood. I think
[41:44] my neighbour does that. I get
[41:46] the smell in the winter. It's
[41:49] the same thing. The pollution is
[41:51] the same thing. Can we address
[41:54] this issue with the pellet
[41:58] burning wood stoves?
[41:59] >> You would like us to be as
[42:02] stringent with pellet burning as
[42:03] we are with wood burning in our
[42:05] laws?
[42:06] >> It's the same thing, the lady
[42:07] who came, I don't have a name
[42:08] there, we would have to research
[42:09] it again if I watch old council
[42:13] meetings. I don't know if you
[42:14] remember the lady that came and
[42:17] talked about the wood stoves and
[42:18] pellet stoves? We
[42:22] >> It might have been stellar
[42:24] Haley, but I'm not sure she
[42:25] would make that error. She would
[42:27] know if pellets were bad.
[42:30] >> Yeah, she gave the numbers of
[42:32] pollution.
[42:33] >> Okay, we can't attribute that
[42:35] comment to Miss Haley because we
[42:36] don't know. Just guessing, so,
[42:40] what my understanding is if
[42:42] pellets are as bad as would, we
[42:44] should have that in our, we
[42:45] should be treating them in the
[42:46] same way as we treat wood. Or --
[42:50] >> It's as bad for the
[42:52] environment. Because wood, it's
[42:53] wood. The palettes, I think they
[42:55] take grass and they compress it.
[42:57] It's as bad.
[42:58] >> Okay, thank you.
[43:00] >> Thank you.
[43:01] >> Susan Weaver?
[43:10] >> This is pretty nice, okay?
[43:13] So, I have two questions. First
[43:15] one with the preamble. Oops, at
[43:18] the August council meeting, a
[43:20] bylaw was adopted concerning the
[43:22] expenses of council members and
[43:24] reimbursement procedures. In
[43:26] section three of this bylaw,
[43:29] ineligible expenses, it's
[43:31] written that council members are
[43:33] responsible to pay costs
[43:35] incurred following an accident
[43:37] or breakdown. Towing, insurance
[43:40] deductible, and repairs, et
[43:42] cetera. Or any other event
[43:44] that's not the cities
[43:45] responsibility. I don't know
[43:46] what et cetera is. Last spring,
[43:49] you had an accident with a
[43:51] vehicle that our city supplies,
[43:53] Mayor, for City use. You are not
[43:55] using it for City business. You
[43:57] totalled the city vehicle and
[43:59] now you have to drive your own
[44:00] vehicle. Since the lease was
[44:03] between the city and the car
[44:05] company, does the City have to
[44:06] pay something when the lease is
[44:08] broken before time? And what's
[44:11] the total expense to the city
[44:12] for your accident?
[44:14] >> Okay, first of all, the
[44:19] automobile that was supplied to
[44:20] the mayor of Pointe-Claire,
[44:22] which has been supplied to I
[44:23] think three subsequent mayors
[44:25] who've all driven a car supplied
[44:28] by the City. The car, the rules
[44:31] and operation of the vehicle did
[44:34] not stipulate or did not
[44:36] distinguish between types of
[44:38] usage of the vehicle. I suspect
[44:40] they didn't want people having
[44:43] cars in their driveway. The car
[44:45] could only be used for groceries
[44:46] and this car could be used for
[44:47] that, and I'm going to have two
[44:50] vehicles taking up space in a
[44:51] driveway for different usages. I
[44:55] personally, as to not have the
[44:56] car we, asked to not have the
[44:58] car but it was a stipulation of
[45:00] the job and it is what every
[45:01] mayor of Pointe-Claire has had
[45:02] for 25 years. So, I got the
[45:05] vehicle. And I drove the
[45:07] vehicle. While driving the
[45:09] vehicle, I hit a deer. I did not
[45:12] get injured, I did not die. And
[45:14] the car was fully insured. Thank
[45:18] you, Miss Weaver.
[45:20] >> So, --
[45:21] >> You have a subsequent
[45:23] question?
[45:24] >> Okay, I'll ask --
[45:25] >> One subsequent question.
[45:27] >> Okay, my second question is,
[45:30] because I didn't get an answer
[45:31] the first time, what's the
[45:32] procedure? --
[45:33] >> Excuse me, you did get an
[45:35] answer the first time.
[45:36] >> No, I didn't.
[45:37] >> That is not a fair statement
[45:38] and I just have to correct it.
[45:40] You did get an answer. Thank
[45:41] you, Miss Weaver, your
[45:43] subsequent question?
[45:44] >> Well, the first one, what's
[45:46] the total expense to the city?
[45:47] >> I'm not sure. It was fully
[45:49] insured, so I don't know.
[45:50] >> It's okay, I'll find out.
[45:52] >> Question two, what's the
[45:55] procedure when you really do
[45:56] have a city expense? Do you have
[45:58] a city credit card?
[46:02] >> Is that your question?
[46:03] >> Yeah.
[46:04] >> I had a city credit card. I
[46:06] no longer have a city credit
[46:08] card. It was given to me. It's
[46:10] an interesting process.
[46:11] >> No, I like this.
[46:13] >> Miss Weaver, I'm answering
[46:15] your second question, okay? When
[46:17] I became mayor, I was given a
[46:19] credit card and I was given a
[46:21] car. All of a sudden, I don't
[46:23] have a credit card, I don't have
[46:24] a car. I followed the rules.
[46:27] Okay, you want me to use the
[46:28] credit card? I will use a credit
[46:30] card. You don't want me to use a
[46:31] credit card? I don't use a
[46:32] credit card. You want me to the
[46:33] car? I will use the car. If you
[46:35] don't want me to use the car, I
[46:36] won't use the car. It is a
[46:38] simple as that, Miss Weaver.
[46:39] That's the answer to your
[46:41] question.
[46:42] >> Okay.
[46:43] >> Thank you. David Johnson?
[46:58] >> It the rule two questions on
[47:00] anything?
[47:01] >> One preamble, two questions,
[47:03] period.
[47:04] >> On the same theme?
[47:05] >> They will have to be. The
[47:06] second question could be a
[47:08] follow-up but preferably,
[47:10] actually that's a good question.
[47:11] Does it have to be on the same
[47:12] thing? No, okay. So, there is a
[47:15] preamble and then two questions.
[47:16] >> David Johnson, district one.
[47:20] How much would it cost, by
[47:22] Fairview forest, has there been
[47:24] an evaluation?
[47:26] >> Not exactly, no.
[47:29] >> As a follow-up to that, I
[47:31] would like to point out a
[47:32] similarity between Pointe-Claire
[47:34] and Hudson. Hudson, like
[47:38] Pointe-Claire, is involved with
[47:39] the bay in saving a big piece of
[47:41] land. In Hudson, it's behind
[47:45] what they call sandy beach.
[47:47] There is wetlands there.
[47:50] Protected by the new changes to
[47:52] the Municipal taxation Act and
[47:55] developable land. Citizens
[48:01] there, there is no consensus on
[48:02] what to do. By that or not?
[48:05] Develop it or not? The mayor
[48:10] there, like our mayor here, does
[48:11] not want to any development on
[48:13] the.
[48:14] >> Excuse me, for giving me to
[48:15] interrupt. Can you please
[48:16] address Council?
[48:17] >> Pardon?
[48:18] >> Yes, you to address Council,
[48:20] not the audience. It's actually
[48:22] a real procedure. --
[48:25] >> The mayor there, like you
[48:28] hear, does not want development
[48:29] in that area.
[48:31] >> Not just the mayor but
[48:33] anyhow, yes.
[48:34] >> Council is divided.
[48:36] >> We are not even sure of that.
[48:38] We're not sure Council is
[48:39] divided on that. We have not had
[48:40] an official vote on that.
[48:43] >> I'm talking about --
[48:44] >> I'm just correcting facts
[48:45] here. You're speaking for the
[48:47] people, oh, in Hudson? Okay.
[48:49] >> In Hudson, the mayor says I
[48:50] am opposed to development there.
[48:53] But she says I am the Mayor of
[48:55] all people in Hudson and maybe
[48:59] some of them need to know what
[49:01] the cost will be. So, Hudson
[49:07] council approved to resolutions.
[49:09] One, $25,000 to affirm in
[49:14] Repentigny to say, what is this
[49:18] land worth? Taking into
[49:20] consideration the new changes to
[49:21] new municipal taxation act. What
[49:24] kind of range are we talking
[49:26] about? What would be the cost to
[49:28] taxpayers of buying that? Or
[49:30] buying some of it? At the same
[49:35] time, another 25,000 dollar
[49:37] contract was accorded to be C
[49:39] to, another firm, to do an
[49:41] opportunity cost analysis of the
[49:46] case. My question is, can you,
[49:51] Mister Mayor, persuade Council
[49:55] to do the same thing? To give us
[49:59] an independent study of what it
[50:01] would cost taxpayers to buy
[50:04] Fairview forest and what the
[50:06] opportunity cost, in terms of
[50:10] development revenue, would be if
[50:11] we don't buy it?
[50:12] >> Well, Mr. Johnson, I would
[50:14] love to have a referendum on
[50:17] that. And then we would get a
[50:19] very accurate answer to that.
[50:21] That would be the truest and
[50:22] honest answer to that, rather
[50:25] than an economic equation drawn
[50:27] up by a quote, unquote,
[50:29] consulting expert. I would like
[50:30] a much more broad, excuse me,
[50:33] Mr. Johnson.
[50:34] >> I didn't interrupt you.
[50:35] >> Okay, just subsequent, the
[50:37] previous experiences, is rearing
[50:39] its ugly head. I don't think
[50:44] evaluating it costs of saving
[50:45] our lives is an economic
[50:47] equation, as simple as that. I
[50:49] think the environment and
[50:52] concern for the environment is
[50:54] something that weighs much more
[50:55] strongly than a simple economic
[50:57] equation. And when you're going
[50:59] to maybe perhaps lose your
[51:01] existence, no amount of money
[51:04] matters. So, it's really
[51:06] interesting how people sometimes
[51:07] want to quantify the costs of
[51:08] something. The cost of cutting
[51:10] down a whole bunch of trees and
[51:12] a force and a wetland after we
[51:14] just had a really serious flood
[51:16] is a really interesting proposal
[51:18] on your part. I find it really
[51:20] intriguing. I think that the
[51:23] evaluation of the importance of
[51:24] the forest is far beyond an
[51:26] economic one. And I would love
[51:28] the citizens to weigh in on
[51:30] that. But I will let them speak
[51:31] to your question, perhaps
[51:34] overtime and in the various
[51:36] democratic processes that come
[51:38] to us. Hudson can evaluated
[51:41] their own way and they're
[51:43] perfectly prepared and willing
[51:44] to do so or they can do as they
[51:46] choose. I think the proper
[51:50] solution to this Fairview forest
[51:53] is not whether the City buys it,
[51:55] but whether there are other ways
[51:57] of protecting that forest
[51:58] without the City buying it.
[52:00] There are a variety of ways of
[52:02] accomplishing that
[52:03] administratively that are areas
[52:04] that should be explored. So, I'm
[52:06] actually doing a fiscally
[52:08] responsible approach to saving
[52:10] the forest. For one, I would've
[52:14] loved more help from the CMM or
[52:16] from other higher levels of
[52:18] government who could perhaps
[52:19] wait in and acquire the forest.
[52:21] There are all kinds of ways of
[52:23] protecting that forest other
[52:24] than the city, itself, buying
[52:26] it. There are many, many, excuse
[52:28] me, Mr. Johnson. There are many,
[52:31] many ways of protecting that
[52:33] forest without putting it on the
[52:34] back of the taxpayer. And to
[52:36] portray it as such is truly
[52:40] unfortunate. So, that's my
[52:41] answer. Now, Mr. Johnson, this
[52:43] is your subsequent question.
[52:46] Your second, follow-up question.
[52:47] >> So, the answer is no, you
[52:49] wouldn't favour a study to
[52:51] evaluate the value of that?
[52:52] >> I would favour whatever the
[52:54] citizens of Pointe-Claire choose
[52:55] to approach this problem in the
[52:57] most clear and democratic way
[52:59] possible. Councillor Stork?
[53:03] >> Just to make this clear, I'm
[53:05] letting a cat out of the bag
[53:06] here but we have never discuss
[53:07] this issue, right? Like, I just
[53:09] want to make sure that what I'm
[53:11] about to say, I've never
[53:12] discussed this with you. Anyhow,
[53:15] I can tell you that I have asked
[53:19] internally the mayor to put
[53:21] something like that together.
[53:24] Okay, is it in the works? I'm
[53:25] not sure. I'm sure other things
[53:27] will be said but regardless of
[53:29] that, I can tell you, and I've
[53:31] spoken to some members of
[53:32] Council, that that needs to be
[53:35] done. I need the assessment of
[53:37] what our options, expropriation,
[53:40] purchase, if we go to get so
[53:43] free money, would we be able to
[53:44] put a plan together to assess
[53:46] it? And basically, you know once
[53:48] again, letting the cat out of
[53:49] the bag, you know I'm working
[53:51] actually on a resolution to
[53:52] force that issue, to bring it to
[53:54] the attention of the
[53:55] administration that if so, if
[53:58] the majority of Council agrees,
[53:59] that something of that nature
[54:00] will be done to get a final
[54:03] assessment. Again, not for or
[54:05] against it at this point. Time
[54:07] has to portray itself, time
[54:08] needs to go through. But to get
[54:10] us the facts. If we expropriate,
[54:12] what are our rates of
[54:13] expropriation? There's a lot of
[54:15] misunderstanding of
[54:16] expropriation. Oh, it's free,
[54:17] I've seen people say it's free
[54:19] for wetlands. Well, it has to be
[54:20] wetlands of high value, which
[54:22] still has to be determined. And
[54:24] a proper environmental
[54:25] assessment, not one by like the
[54:27] legacy group, which is an
[54:28] organization. Not one by the
[54:30] developer either. We need a
[54:31] proper, independent evaluation
[54:32] to know where we stand, so we
[54:34] can make decisions and I believe
[54:35] this is pretty much a referendum
[54:37] question. You know, to what
[54:39] extent? 50 plus one, two thirds,
[54:41] like the constitution? I don't
[54:42] know. But something of this
[54:44] nature, the type of expenditure
[54:45] we're looking for needs to be a
[54:47] long, deep, and thought process.
[54:49] It can be a group for against
[54:50] for or against development, or
[54:53] four or against the Fairview
[54:54] forest. It's a process that
[54:55] needs to be done and I strongly
[54:59] would support that.
[55:00] >> Okay, Councillor Tremblay?
[55:02] >> Thank you, Mister Mayor. I
[55:05] have to admit that I am
[55:06] disappointed with the narrow
[55:08] focus of the question, which is
[55:10] uniformly, unilaterally
[55:12] economic. So, in all honesty, so
[55:16] is the answer. And that
[55:19] particular perspective is an old
[55:21] one. It's the way we used to
[55:23] think about things. We used to
[55:24] think strictly about the
[55:25] economics of these kinds of
[55:26] matters. As the storms that are
[55:32] ravaging the east coast from
[55:34] Florida up to us now, this is
[55:37] becoming a -- issue, it's
[55:39] becoming a problem. The federal
[55:40] government has maintained that
[55:41] were undergoing a climate
[55:44] emergency. You act when there is
[55:46] an emergency. So, in order to
[55:48] find a solution to this problem
[55:49] that we have right now, and this
[55:53] has nothing to do with the way
[55:55] they've moved forward in Hudson.
[55:57] Probably in other contexts. You
[55:58] may be even comparing apples to
[56:00] oranges. As far as I can tell.
[56:03] The important thing is that we,
[56:06] in Council, and I've said this
[56:08] many times, have the intention
[56:10] of working towards saving
[56:13] important green space. There are
[56:17] numerous legal avenues. I
[56:21] wouldn't say numerous, that's
[56:22] the wrong word, but their legal
[56:24] avenues that are beginning to
[56:25] take shape in this province to
[56:27] allow cities to be able to
[56:30] protect some of the green
[56:31] heritage that they have. That
[56:33] has to be included in that
[56:35] discussion. Another important
[56:37] factor that needs to be included
[56:38] in the discussion is the
[56:41] possibility of working with
[56:45] individual land owners, whether
[56:48] they be private, small,
[56:49] residential land owners or
[56:51] large, corporate ones, in order
[56:52] to arrive at those kinds of
[56:54] solutions. I, for one, I'm tired
[56:57] of reading regular reports of a
[56:59] number of species dying out on a
[57:03] daily basis. We have situations
[57:05] where we had the COP15 meeting
[57:08] here in Montréal recently where
[57:10] every government representative,
[57:12] federally, provincially,
[57:13] municipally, showed up and said
[57:14] yes, we want to save everything.
[57:15] ,
[57:20] And we've lost provincially now,
[57:21] it's contradictory and in terms
[57:22] of obtaining some of those
[57:23] school so I think it's time here
[57:24] at this table here, and in the
[57:25] audience, and in Pointe-Claire
[57:26] generally, those who make of the
[57:27] social fabric of this particular
[57:28] city, that we get together and
[57:29] we start thinking creatively
[57:30] about how we're going to be able
[57:31] to save these kinds of areas..
[57:32] Next, test, test..
[57:33] | | |
[57:41] So, again, and disappointed with
[57:44] the narrow focus. I think it's
[57:46] an important question to be
[57:48] raising. It's something we
[57:50] should be talking about
[57:52] regularly. But I would encourage
[57:53] you to also broaden your
[57:54] horizons and start looking at
[57:56] ways that you might be able to
[57:57] contribute to help save it as
[57:59] well. It's not just important
[58:00] for us, not just important for
[58:02] those who are invested in it,
[58:03] but for everybody else in the
[58:06] future. Going forward. Thank
[58:08] you.
[58:09] >> Thank you, Councillor
[58:11] Tremblay. Stuart Brennan?
[58:21] >> Hello. I'm Stewart Brandon,
[58:23] I'm from district eight. I live
[58:26] on Bell mar in the apartment
[58:29] buildings. I live on Del Mar at
[58:32] the, there's 11 apartment
[58:33] buildings, I'm sure you know
[58:35] about them. I heard your words
[58:38] tonight about being concerned
[58:41] about those for rent, rentals,
[58:45] you know? For the people who
[58:48] would be able to pay rent, so I
[58:53] listened to that and so, I had
[58:55] the question. If you really
[58:57] believe it, if you really mean
[58:59] it, because you have raised our
[59:01] taxes on those buildings 25%.
[59:06] 25%. And that was put down on
[59:09] us. We are people who don't have
[59:12] a lot of money. We work hard and
[59:16] we are under the gun all the
[59:19] time by those who buy the
[59:21] buildings, like Mr. Cowan, you
[59:23] know you had somebody who bought
[59:24] those buildings. When they put
[59:26] their foot down on us, okay? And
[59:29] push the rants up, push people
[59:31] out of the buildings, and I'm
[59:34] telling you, we were under fire
[59:36] here. Now, you raised the taxes
[59:40] 25% and that was put on us by
[59:43] the owners. Owners of these
[59:45] buildings. Not only that, if
[59:49] you're going to evaluate a
[59:51] building and raise the taxes,
[59:53] one of these buildings has a
[59:54] roof on the ground. 496 Del Mar,
[59:59] half the roof is on the ground.
[1:00:03] And you've raised these taxes.
[1:00:04] These buildings are not worth
[1:00:06] more than what they were before.
[1:00:07] They are worth less. I am
[1:00:10] telling you guys, you've got to
[1:00:12] really look into it. You're
[1:00:13] talking about housing for
[1:00:14] people. Oh, well we want to
[1:00:15] build. Never mind building, how
[1:00:16] about the ones that are there
[1:00:17] now? How about saving those
[1:00:20] ones? How about getting involved
[1:00:21] with that? Because we are under
[1:00:23] the fire. You guys, you've got a
[1:00:26] nice job, got an extra job,
[1:00:28] you've got extra, you know? For
[1:00:29] whatever you're doing. We don't
[1:00:31] have that. We've got one job.
[1:00:33] We've got families to take care
[1:00:35] of. We are the people who take
[1:00:37] care of things in the hospitals,
[1:00:39] the old folks homes, and in
[1:00:42] companies. We are the blue
[1:00:44] collar workers. Are you going to
[1:00:46] help us? So, my question, why
[1:00:50] did you raise the taxes? And
[1:00:53] will you lower these taxes for
[1:00:56] us?
[1:00:57] >> That is quite a moving
[1:01:01] statement and I totally respect
[1:01:02] what you have just said. It is a
[1:01:05] hard question to answer. Taxes
[1:01:08] are a challenge because you have
[1:01:09] to pay for things, you are
[1:01:11] right. Taxes are also, as you've
[1:01:14] learned tonight, a huge hunk of
[1:01:16] them come from another
[1:01:19] organization. Quite, in all
[1:01:22] fairness, we don't think
[1:01:24] operates as well or as
[1:01:26] officially as we do or as
[1:01:27] justly, in some ways, as we do.
[1:01:30] So, it is hard to control rent.
[1:01:34] Excuse me, it's hard, it's very
[1:01:36] hard to control rent. It's
[1:01:37] really hard to control taxes and
[1:01:39] the level of taxation. I hear
[1:01:41] what you are saying. For us then
[1:01:45] we can improve our, levels of
[1:01:47] service delivery, efficiency,
[1:01:49] how we operate. You know, there
[1:01:51] are all kinds of variables on
[1:01:52] that which I hear you loud and
[1:01:53] clear on compared to the average
[1:01:55] person. And I respect what you
[1:01:57] have said. To control taxes is,
[1:02:03] I mean, what you are getting it
[1:02:05] in there is that if there's
[1:02:06] building renovations, you're
[1:02:07] talking renovictions or are you
[1:02:09] talking about a building gets
[1:02:10] value, goes up if it renovates
[1:02:12] or if it gets rebuilt?
[1:02:14] >> First of all, they haven't
[1:02:15] done any renovations to the
[1:02:17] buildings but the evaluations,
[1:02:20] they consulted somebody and then
[1:02:21] they go in and evaluate the
[1:02:23] buildings, and then the taxes go
[1:02:25] up. Now, like I said, in one
[1:02:27] year, 25%, the taxes went up.
[1:02:30] From 120, hundred thousand two,
[1:02:33] or 101,000 $226,000. And it is
[1:02:37] going up again. It's going up
[1:02:38] again. 5000, $6,000 every year.
[1:02:41] Why? These buildings are coming
[1:02:43] down. Like I say, they've put
[1:02:45] those taxes when they want to go
[1:02:47] to the towel and they say okay,
[1:02:49] our taxes went up. You know, our
[1:02:51] costs were going up and
[1:02:52] everything, so they throw it but
[1:02:55] 25% is a huge cost. It's a huge
[1:02:57] amount. I don't know who made
[1:03:01] those decisions but come on, you
[1:03:03] really have to look at the
[1:03:04] buildings. The buildings are
[1:03:05] really not in great shape.
[1:03:07] >> Okay.
[1:03:08] >> They could be. Maybe if
[1:03:10] everyone started to take, you
[1:03:11] know, take concern about the
[1:03:14] people in Pointe-Claire,
[1:03:17] especially in that region. We
[1:03:19] need it. We've got attendance
[1:03:21] unit now. So, we would like to
[1:03:24] address that. And eventually in
[1:03:26] the future, we may be able to
[1:03:28] come down here and address these
[1:03:29] things. Hopefully we can work
[1:03:30] together and maybe one day, you
[1:03:32] will buy these buildings. You
[1:03:34] know what I mean? Instead of
[1:03:35] buying new, brand new things
[1:03:39] which are costing thousands and
[1:03:42] millions of dollars, I don't
[1:03:43] know, that's just off the top of
[1:03:45] my head, sorry.
[1:03:46] >> Well, you are speaking my
[1:03:47] language in some ways. I will
[1:03:50] allow one subsequent question,
[1:03:51] sir. But we do have to, I think,
[1:03:54] and I say this in the last
[1:03:55] campaign, we have to look after
[1:03:56] those that live here, not those
[1:03:58] that are moving in. We and that
[1:04:03] is, you know, the
[1:04:04] infrastructure, the costs, the
[1:04:05] burden, the traffic, and all of
[1:04:07] the spin off that comes is
[1:04:10] absorbed by the existing
[1:04:11] citizens and is it good or bad?
[1:04:12] Do their rents go down? Do their
[1:04:15] properties, do their taxes go
[1:04:16] down? I mean, Miss Conway
[1:04:19] explained that there is a lot of
[1:04:20] economic activity around her
[1:04:23] house and her taxes went up
[1:04:25] huge. But this is supposed to be
[1:04:26] good, having new development.
[1:04:28] All of this stuff in the
[1:04:29] turnover, the economic turnover,
[1:04:31] is supposed to be good. Supposed
[1:04:32] to be bringing taxes around.
[1:04:34] Does not seem to be. We keep
[1:04:37] building, the argument is we
[1:04:38] increase supply, we heard
[1:04:41] affordability or we make it more
[1:04:44] affordable if we increase
[1:04:45] supply. Well guess what? We
[1:04:46] increase supply more than
[1:04:47] anybody in the West Island and
[1:04:49] we had the single highest rent
[1:04:50] increase in the country. So, for
[1:04:53] me, there's something wrong with
[1:04:54] this formula that you're
[1:04:55] touching on. And my, and I will
[1:04:58] give you my philosophical
[1:05:00] argument, and it is an
[1:05:01] interesting one. I think
[1:05:03] affordability is something that
[1:05:04] cannot be left to the market. I
[1:05:06] think the affordability, issue
[1:05:08] of affordability and housing is
[1:05:10] something that requires more
[1:05:14] intervention. If you leave it to
[1:05:15] the market, we see negative
[1:05:17] consequences left, right, and
[1:05:18] centre, and we've seen it in
[1:05:20] Pointe-Claire, and that's my
[1:05:21] long, philosophical answer to
[1:05:22] that.
[1:05:23] >> Okay so how many more
[1:05:25] buildings?
[1:05:26] >> One more question.
[1:05:27] >> How many more buildings have
[1:05:28] been approved to be put up in
[1:05:29] that region? On the Del Mar
[1:05:31] region where there's a company
[1:05:33] that's probably slated to be
[1:05:34] taken down, maybe even our
[1:05:36] buildings could be slated to be
[1:05:37] taken down so they can put up
[1:05:38] these bigger buildings. I mean,
[1:05:40] are there more buildings,
[1:05:43] high-rise buildings being slated
[1:05:44] for construction down there?
[1:05:47] >> In that area? Madam Verdon,
[1:05:50] do we know precise number as to
[1:05:51] how many in that specific area?
[1:05:54] >> We don't have right now in
[1:05:56] the table for that area.
[1:05:58] >> So, --
[1:06:00] >> Thank you, sir.
[1:06:01] >> Mister Mayor, your tax
[1:06:06] evaluation this time around, the
[1:06:08] buildings we just sold, to my
[1:06:10] understanding, right?
[1:06:11] >> Again, yes. Surprised that
[1:06:13] you know about it.
[1:06:14] >> Whatever the new buyers paid
[1:06:18] for it, that's going to be the
[1:06:20] basis of the tax assessment, the
[1:06:22] next rule. That will be it
[1:06:25] because they don't have to
[1:06:26] compare that building to
[1:06:27] anything else. It's whatever the
[1:06:29] current owners, and I don't even
[1:06:30] know who they are. The used to
[1:06:31] be North Cliff and I just heard
[1:06:34] this week that the building, all
[1:06:37] the buildings I think we're sold
[1:06:39] from North Cliff to whoever owns
[1:06:40] it now. You said you formed a
[1:06:42] tenants association?
[1:06:43] >> Yes, we have.
[1:06:44] >> Can you please get in touch
[1:06:45] with me so that I can coordinate
[1:06:47] with you? I mean, this has
[1:06:49] asserted me for six years, seven
[1:06:52] years, ever since I was first
[1:06:53] elected, how to keep rents
[1:06:56] reasonable. Keep them down and I
[1:06:58] think I knocked on your door on
[1:06:59] one or two elections. I think we
[1:07:01] had this same conversation. It's
[1:07:07] a challenge. What I did is I
[1:07:09] wrote a letter to North Cliff, I
[1:07:11] wrote a letter to them
[1:07:13] congratulating them on their
[1:07:15] efforts to maintain affordable
[1:07:17] housing in Pointe-Claire. I let
[1:07:18] them know, through the lines,
[1:07:19] well that's the way you played a
[1:07:21] game, right? And then I let them
[1:07:24] know, reading between the lines,
[1:07:25] they better try to keep it that
[1:07:27] way or they're going to run into
[1:07:29] resistance. From me, as a
[1:07:32] councillor, and I think I can
[1:07:34] speak for Pointe-Claire in
[1:07:35] general because that's what
[1:07:36] we're trying to do. To the best
[1:07:38] of our ability. We are very
[1:07:42] limited in what we can do in
[1:07:43] terms of the property evaluation
[1:07:46] because that's run by the City
[1:07:47] of Montréal, based on their
[1:07:49] formula. And then your taxes
[1:07:51] went up because we are stuck
[1:07:53] with that evaluation and we are
[1:07:55] stuck with trying to apply taxes
[1:08:00] across the entire -- in
[1:08:02] Pointe-Claire. It just happens
[1:08:04] that with your property, with
[1:08:06] the apartments there, they went
[1:08:08] up in value at a steeper rate
[1:08:11] and the rest of Pointe-Claire.
[1:08:12] That's why you had a better, I
[1:08:15] mean, more of an increase. It's
[1:08:16] not because the actual budget
[1:08:18] went up that much. The budget
[1:08:20] didn't go up very much. The way
[1:08:22] the tax was distributed, that's
[1:08:24] affected and it's affected by
[1:08:25] the evaluations done by the City
[1:08:27] of Montréal. It's complicated
[1:08:30] but like especially if you set
[1:08:31] up a meeting with your tenants
[1:08:34] association, I will explain it
[1:08:35] to them and then maybe we can
[1:08:36] think of a way forward. For one
[1:08:37] thing, we have to find out, I
[1:08:39] also understood that you are
[1:08:40] just given a photocopy of like
[1:08:42] some photocopy telling you to
[1:08:43] pay rent to some other --
[1:08:46] >> It's funny that you know all
[1:08:48] this stuff. I know that you're
[1:08:49] -- with all of these developers
[1:08:51] because --
[1:08:53] >> Back when you are your friend
[1:08:55] from Northview, I mean, you got
[1:08:56] involved, you stuck your nose in
[1:08:57] somewhere where you should not
[1:08:58] have. You got our maintenance
[1:09:01] person removed and because of
[1:09:03] that, we've never had a
[1:09:04] maintenance person again, and he
[1:09:07] was taking care of the
[1:09:09] buildings, but you stuck your
[1:09:10] nose in where you should not
[1:09:12] have.
[1:09:13] >> Well, --
[1:09:16] >> That episode, which we can
[1:09:18] discuss also another time, --
[1:09:21] >> He saved my kids from being
[1:09:22] picked up.
[1:09:23] >> I think we should refrain
[1:09:24] from an exchange. Yes,
[1:09:27] Councillor Stork?
[1:09:30] >> First of all, I have no idea
[1:09:32] what you are talking about as a
[1:09:34] friend from Northview. I know
[1:09:35] nothing about a maintenance
[1:09:37] person there, so please approach
[1:09:39] me or make it public with
[1:09:42] supporting information because I
[1:09:43] know nothing of what you're
[1:09:44] talking about right now. And
[1:09:45] just to let you know, as
[1:09:48] Councillor Cowan mentioned, we
[1:09:49] have no control over fiscal
[1:09:51] taxes, we have none. We can't
[1:09:52] even prescribed by the law to
[1:09:53] say a certain area, certain
[1:09:55] regions, or certain street pays
[1:09:57] higher or less taxes. We just
[1:09:59] had come out with a new law, C
[1:10:01] 39, which gives us different
[1:10:03] evaluations of taxation to
[1:10:05] create sub categories that can
[1:10:07] possibly views. Believe me, I
[1:10:09] played for your cause, no
[1:10:11] question about it but we have to
[1:10:12] work with the confines of what
[1:10:13] we have. Just to go back the
[1:10:16] buddy from Northview, I really
[1:10:17] don't appreciate that.
[1:10:18] >> But your concern for your
[1:10:20] citizens though, thank you.
[1:10:25] >> So stack oh? Yeah, you're the
[1:10:28] last.
[1:10:36] >> Thank you for taking a
[1:10:38] nonresidents question and for
[1:10:42] giving me time. I wondered if,
[1:10:47] well first of all, I would have
[1:10:49] to be noticing I was driving
[1:10:50] down St. John's the other day
[1:10:52] and I noticed a lot of new
[1:10:55] native, maybe it wasn't new
[1:10:56] native planting about beautiful
[1:10:58] plantings along the side. It
[1:10:59] looks like there's some measures
[1:11:00] being taken, maybe that's the
[1:11:03] sustainability group, I don't
[1:11:04] know. Anyway, I really
[1:11:05] appreciate that I've seen more
[1:11:06] native plantings in the public
[1:11:09] spaces. It really makes a big
[1:11:11] difference for biodiversity and
[1:11:14] our local wildlife, our bucks,
[1:11:17] basically. We need to help our
[1:11:19] bugs. So, you probably know I'm
[1:11:21] a member of the group save
[1:11:23] Fairview forest. I wondered if
[1:11:26] it's kind of a general all
[1:11:28] Council question but I guess I
[1:11:30] can address the mayor. Did you
[1:11:33] receive any emails recently from
[1:11:36] a glut of them about safe
[1:11:39] Fairview forest? And maybe
[1:11:41] looking into other solutions of
[1:11:44] or sitting down and finding
[1:11:46] solutions that may not involve
[1:11:48] buying the forest and reaching
[1:11:51] out to Montréal, Québec, and
[1:11:53] even Canada for, you know, some
[1:11:56] ideas? Did any of you receive
[1:11:59] those emails?
[1:12:01] >> Yes, we all do, I certainly
[1:12:03] did.
[1:12:04] >> We ask our supporters to see
[1:12:07] us, and we saw that there were
[1:12:09] 58 emails sent. And I guess my
[1:12:14] question is, do you typically
[1:12:18] get that many emails about one
[1:12:20] topic in a, say, week period? We
[1:12:22] just celebrated our 200th week
[1:12:23] at the force, so that was a
[1:12:25] campaign that we launched. Would
[1:12:29] that be -- fair to say that's a
[1:12:30] lot of emails?
[1:12:31] >> Since I've been mayor, yes.
[1:12:34] Since I've been mayor, nothing
[1:12:35] has come close, that's correct.
[1:12:38] >> So why didn't we get any
[1:12:41] replies? I guess that's my main
[1:12:44] question.
[1:12:45] >> It's a very good question.
[1:12:49] Where we -- yeah, we could --
[1:12:52] yes, that would solicit. It
[1:12:54] doesn't have to request a reply.
[1:12:56] It should have, but yes. Yes.
[1:13:00] Yes, Councillor Stork?
[1:13:02] >> Yes, we did receive a bunch
[1:13:03] of emails, because you, Sam we
[1:13:07] obviously got them. I did reply
[1:13:08] to every citizen in my district
[1:13:10] and actually met with them and
[1:13:11] explain my position. I explained
[1:13:14] exactly what I said today about
[1:13:16] moving forward on this issue. It
[1:13:18] was exactly what I told her I
[1:13:19] would say. So if you could read
[1:13:22] through your list, she was in
[1:13:24] district seven, and I met with
[1:13:25] her.
[1:13:26] >> Okay, I will definitely ask
[1:13:27] them, thank you for doing that.
[1:13:30] What's going on over here?
[1:13:31] >> Okay, Councillor -- sorry. Go
[1:13:35] ahead, Councillor Stainforth and
[1:13:37] then Councillor Tremblay.
[1:13:39] >> The protocol is that when we
[1:13:40] receive an email that everybody
[1:13:42] is copied on including the
[1:13:43] mayor, we allow the mayor to
[1:13:45] answer the email, that's our
[1:13:47] protocol. It's always been that
[1:13:48] way. So because he is the chief,
[1:13:53] I suppose, right, so that is
[1:13:56] typically the way it has always
[1:13:59] worked with emails address to
[1:14:01] everybody.
[1:14:02] >> This is news to me.
[1:14:03] >> Thank you for explaining.
[1:14:06] Well, we still thought it was
[1:14:08] important that everyone.
[1:14:09] >> If that is our operating
[1:14:10] procedure, it is news to me.
[1:14:13] Anyway, Councillor Tremblay?
[1:14:14] >> Yes, I received quite a
[1:14:16] number of them. I was way for
[1:14:17] ten, 12 days, so I'm really
[1:14:19] behind on my work. And once I
[1:14:21] have time, I will read them all
[1:14:22] individually and respond
[1:14:25] accordingly. Pardon?
[1:14:26] >> They're all the same.
[1:14:28] >> There was a lot of cutting
[1:14:30] and pasting, but some people a
[1:14:31] little personalized.
[1:14:32] >> Some are a little different.
[1:14:34] >> I'm sure your voters would
[1:14:36] appreciate if they had written
[1:14:37] you a personal one. Thank you
[1:14:39] for that as well. And I know
[1:14:41] that things have been crazy with
[1:14:43] the flooding and stuff, I just
[1:14:45] -- there is no deadline for
[1:14:47] replies. We are happy to hear
[1:14:48] them at anytime. So thank you.
[1:14:53] >> Thank you Miss stack oh.. The
[1:14:59] us concludes question period.
[1:15:08] 5,1, je pense. 5.1 File the
[1:15:11] report pertaining to the
[1:15:12] register held from August 26 to
[1:15:13] 30, 2024, with respect to By-law
[1:15:14] PC-2976. No signature was
[1:15:19] received concerning the
[1:15:22] 4,075,000 dollar borrowing bylaw
[1:15:23] offer professional services for
[1:15:25] infrastructure works.
[1:15:26] Avis de motion et dépôt d'un
[1:15:27] projet de Règlement décrétant un
[1:15:28] emprunt à long terme et une
[1:15:29] dépense en immobilisations de 1
[1:15:30] 635 000 $ pour des travaux dans
[1:15:31] les parcs, espaces verts,
[1:15:35] berges, pistes cyclables et
[1:15:36] plateaux sportifs. Plus
[1:15:40] précisément, pour la
[1:15:41] construction à la reconstruction
[1:15:43] aménagement et réaménagements la
[1:15:45] réflexion fourniture
[1:15:46] installations de muret à
[1:15:48] prévoir, mobilier urbain,
[1:15:49] équipements de jeu, pistes
[1:15:51] cyclables, clôture berges, la
[1:15:53] touche sportif en droit de
[1:15:55] détente, surface de jeu et
[1:15:56] travaux connexes ainsi que la
[1:15:58] main-d'oeuvre affectée,
[1:15:59] spécifiquement ces projets en
[1:16:00] divers endroits du secteur
[1:16:01] résidentiel de la ville. Le
[1:16:03] montant financé sera remboursé
[1:16:04] par le biais d'une taxe imposée
[1:16:05] à l'ensemble de la municipalité
[1:16:07] sur la base de la valeur
[1:16:08] foncière des immeubles
[1:16:10] imposables et ce sera une
[1:16:11] période de 20 ans. >> 5.3 Notice
[1:16:15] of motion and filing of a draft
[1:16:16] By-law decreeing a long-term
[1:16:17] borrowing and capital
[1:16:18] expenditures in the amount of $
[1:16:19] 2,555,000 for municipal
[1:16:20] infrastructure works in various
[1:16:21] locations. We are talking about
[1:16:25] construction, reconstruction,
[1:16:26] repair, rehabilitation works for
[1:16:28] sidewalks, curbs, services,
[1:16:30] water main, sanitary sewer,
[1:16:32] storm sewers, service
[1:16:33] connection, street foundation,
[1:16:35] paving, rural lighting, and
[1:16:37] related works, as well as
[1:16:38] labour, specifically assigned to
[1:16:40] these projects at various
[1:16:41] locations, the amount to be
[1:16:43] finance will be reimbursed by a
[1:16:44] tax levied on the entire
[1:16:45] municipality based on the
[1:16:46] property value of taxable
[1:16:48] buildings or a 20-year period.
[1:16:49] 5.4 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un
[1:16:50] projet de Règlement décrétant un
[1:16:51] emprunt à long terme et une
[1:16:53] dépense en immobilisations de 3
[1:16:54] 690 000 $ pour divers travaux
[1:16:55] devant être exécutés sur les
[1:16:56] bâtiments de la Ville.
[1:17:02] Divers travaux de toiture,
[1:17:04] Fondation enveloppe portefeuille
[1:17:06] nette, quel Carew maçonnerie,
[1:17:08] escaliers peinture céramique
[1:17:10] fournitures installations
[1:17:12] remplacements mise aux normes
[1:17:13] des règlements
[1:17:14] (---)
[1:17:15] pour la chaleur, la ventilation
[1:17:17] et l'air conditionné. Plomberie,
[1:17:20] protection incendie structure
[1:17:21] mise aux normes, réaménagement à
[1:17:22] nouveau connexes en lien avec
[1:17:24] les pays que la main d'heure
[1:17:26] spécifiquement à ces projets. Le
[1:17:28] montant financier sera
[1:17:29] remboursée par le biais d'une
[1:17:30] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la
[1:17:31] municipalité sur la base de la
[1:17:32] valeur foncière des immeubles
[1:17:34] imposables et sur une période de
[1:17:35] 20. >> 5.5 Notice of motion and
[1:17:39] filing of a draft By-law
[1:17:40] decreeing a long-term borrowing
[1:17:41] and capital expenditures in the
[1:17:42] amount of $ 4,855,000 for
[1:17:45] electrical works in various
[1:17:46] locations. It's the replacement
[1:17:49] in repairs work for lighting,
[1:17:51] luminaries, boxes, traffic
[1:17:52] lights, upgrades, conduit,
[1:17:54] wherein control systems, U.P.S.
[1:17:56] systems in various works, as
[1:17:57] well as labour directly
[1:17:58] associated with these projects.
[1:17:59] The amount to be finance will be
[1:18:01] reimbursed by a tax levied on
[1:18:02] the entire municipality based on
[1:18:04] the property value of taxable
[1:18:06] buildings or a 20-year period.
[1:18:08] 5.6 Avis de motion et dépôt d'un
[1:18:09] projet de Règlement décrétant un
[1:18:10] emprunt à long terme et une
[1:18:11] dépense en immobilisations de 6
[1:18:12] 285 000 $ pour des services
[1:18:13] professionnels et la réalisation
[1:18:14] de travaux majeurs
[1:18:15] d'infrastructures municipales en
[1:18:16] divers endroits.
[1:18:20] Services professionnels les
[1:18:22] constructions, reconstruction,
[1:18:24] réflexion réhabilitation de
[1:18:25] trottoirs bordures, dalle de
[1:18:27] béton, mailles, structure de
[1:18:29] béton, viaducs passerelle,
[1:18:30] Service des conduites d'eau,
[1:18:31] égouts, sanitaires et pluviales
[1:18:32] Fondation de, rue pavage,
[1:18:33] éclairage routier, et travaux
[1:18:34] connexes, ainsi que la
[1:18:35] main-d'oeuvre affectées
[1:18:36] spécifiquement ses proches dans
[1:18:37] divers endroits.
[1:18:40] Le montant a financé sera
[1:18:41] remboursé par le biais d'une
[1:18:42] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la
[1:18:44] municipalité sera la base de la
[1:18:47] valeur foncière des immeubles
[1:18:48] importants options période de 20
[1:18:49] ans. >> For 5.2 to 5.6, who
[1:18:54] moves these notices of motion?
[1:18:56] >> Mister Mayor, I will
[1:18:58] presently, but first I would
[1:18:59] like to address a point of
[1:19:00] privilege.
[1:19:01] >> Sure.
[1:19:02] >> I was accused of having a
[1:19:03] caretaker of an apartment
[1:19:04] building fired. It took me
[1:19:06] awhile to remember exactly the
[1:19:08] details, but that was the
[1:19:12] scurrilous accusation, and I
[1:19:13] will tell you what happened.
[1:19:15] That caretaker was met, with
[1:19:20] some children, black children,
[1:19:22] playing in the driveway of that
[1:19:25] apartment building, and instead
[1:19:26] of correcting what ever he
[1:19:28] thought might have been bad
[1:19:29] behaviour, he called the police.
[1:19:31] This caused an incident and the
[1:19:34] parents of those children were
[1:19:35] deeply hurt and offended and the
[1:19:37] children were thereafter afraid
[1:19:38] of going outside to play because
[1:19:41] this guy had called the cops on
[1:19:43] them. So I got in touch of the
[1:19:45] chief executive officer of the
[1:19:47] land owner, which was North
[1:19:48] Cliff, not north of you, Mr.
[1:19:51] Stork, and told him that I
[1:19:53] thought -- actually, I did get
[1:19:55] in touch with him. I worked with
[1:19:56] the tenants, they got in touch
[1:19:59] with the owner of the apartment
[1:20:03] buildings, the company that
[1:20:04] owned them, and suggested they
[1:20:07] apology was in order. And
[1:20:10] eventually, the chief executive
[1:20:12] officer of North Cliff issued
[1:20:13] that apology to the parents of
[1:20:15] those children. And then the
[1:20:18] caretaker subsequently quit his
[1:20:20] job after a while. The children
[1:20:23] were no longer afraid to come
[1:20:24] out and play, but I guess he,
[1:20:26] was so he left. So I had nobody
[1:20:28] fired. With that said, I follow
[1:20:34] a notice of motion four items
[1:20:35] 5.1 to 5.6.
[1:20:42] >> 5.7 Public consultation
[1:20:44] regarding a draft by-Law
[1:20:45] amending the Village Code,
[1:20:46] By-Law PC-2880 of the City of
[1:20:47] Pointe-Claire, regarding
[1:20:49] authorized residential use
[1:20:50] classes as well as the layout of
[1:20:52] parking spaces required for
[1:20:53] class B dwellings in UP8. The
[1:20:54] draft by-law contains one --
[1:20:58] this bylaws permit duplex type
[1:21:00] dwellings in this zone. The
[1:21:02] Council adopts the second draft
[1:21:03] bylaw provided for the following
[1:21:05] item, I notice will be published
[1:21:06] inviting residents of the zone
[1:21:07] covered by the draft bylaw as
[1:21:09] well as those of contiguous
[1:21:10] zones to submit an application
[1:21:12] for the opening of a register.
[1:21:14] The number of applications
[1:21:15] required will be specified in
[1:21:16] the notice it is based on the
[1:21:18] number of qualified voters in
[1:21:19] the identified zones. If the
[1:21:21] number of requests is reached,
[1:21:23] the city will have to open a
[1:21:25] register and which the people in
[1:21:26] the zones from which the request
[1:21:28] originate can sign to request
[1:21:29] that referendum be held. Note
[1:21:31] that Council may withdraw the
[1:21:33] byline and anytime during the
[1:21:34] procedure. This draft bylaw
[1:21:36] contains one or more provisions
[1:21:37] making it a bylaw subject to
[1:21:39] approval by way of a referendum.
[1:21:43] >> People present may address
[1:21:45] Council on this bylaw. And the
[1:21:48] same applies for the next item,
[1:21:50] which is the public consultation
[1:21:52] regarding another draft bylaw.
[1:21:54] 5.8 Assemblée publique de
[1:21:55] consultation concernant un
[1:21:56] projet de règlement modifiant le
[1:21:57] Règlement de zonage PC-2775 de
[1:21:58] la Ville de Pointe-Claire afin
[1:21:59] de modifier les dispositions
[1:22:00] touchant les équipements
[1:22:02] électriques et mécaniques,
[1:22:03] l'aménagement des espaces
[1:22:05] extérieurs des zones
[1:22:06] industrielles, les matériaux de
[1:22:07] revêtement classes a et b, les
[1:22:08] clôtures, les enceintes de
[1:22:09] piscine de même que certains
[1:22:11] équipements récréatifs
[1:22:12] résidentiels. Le projet de
[1:22:13] règlement ne contient aucune
[1:22:14] disposition propre à un
[1:22:15] règlement susceptible
[1:22:16] d'approbation référendaire.
[1:22:32] Encore une fois, les principes
[1:22:34] présents peuvent s'adresser au
[1:22:35] Conseil. >> So we will move on
[1:22:40] to 5.9, Adoption of a second
[1:22:42] draft by-Law amending the
[1:22:43] Village Code, By-Law PC-2880 of
[1:22:44] the City of Pointe-Claire,
[1:22:45] regarding authorized residential
[1:22:46] use classes as well as the
[1:22:47] layout of parking spaces
[1:22:48] required for class B dwellings
[1:22:49] in UP8. 5.10 Adoption d'un
[1:22:53] Règlement modifiant le Règlement
[1:22:54] de zonage PC-2775 de la Ville de
[1:22:55] Pointe-Claire afin de modifier
[1:22:56] les dispositions touchant les
[1:22:57] équipements électriques et
[1:22:58] mécaniques, l'aménagement des
[1:22:59] espaces extérieurs des zones
[1:23:00] industrielles, les matériaux de
[1:23:01] revêtement classes A et B, les
[1:23:02] clôtures, les enceintes de
[1:23:03] piscine de même que certains
[1:23:04] équipements récréatifs
[1:23:05] résidentiels.
[1:23:13] Pour 5,9 à 5,10... Bruno
[1:23:16] Tremblay, saignerais district
[1:23:17] six.
[1:23:18] Do I have a mover?
[1:23:19] >> -- District to.
[1:23:21] >> And second? Or
[1:23:23] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:23:24] >> All in favour?
[1:23:26] >> Thank you. So 6.1 and six
[1:23:28] point 22 have been withdrawn, we
[1:23:30] will go to six point, three
[1:23:33] Grant a financial support for a
[1:23:34] total amount of $ 1,520 to the
[1:23:35] Montreal Police Brotherhood. The
[1:23:36] financial aid for the 56th
[1:23:39] annual beat lunch fund-raiser,
[1:23:41] organized by the Montréal police
[1:23:42] brotherhood, this fund-raiser
[1:23:44] will be held at the same time as
[1:23:45] the international seniors day
[1:23:46] and the 40th anniversary of aid
[1:23:48] for seniors. 190 meals will be
[1:23:51] purchased by the City of
[1:23:52] Pointe-Claire at $8 each for the
[1:23:54] event for a total of $1,520.
[1:23:56] This event will be held on
[1:23:57] October 25th, 2024.
[1:23:59] >> For 6.3, do I have a mover?
[1:24:06] >> And seconder?
[1:24:08] - Pouvez-vous le dire abord,
[1:24:10] messieurs Bissonnette. >> Are
[1:24:13] you seconder? Do I have a
[1:24:14] seconder? Are you a seconder?
[1:24:18] >> Eric Stork --
[1:24:23] >> All in favour?
[1:24:24] >> Who is the seconder.
[1:24:32] All in favour? We did vote,
[1:24:35] didn't we? 6.4 Demande présentée
[1:24:39] au CIUSSS de l'Ouest-del'Île
[1:24:40] concernant la Maison des aînés
[1:24:41] de Pointe-Claire.
[1:24:46] La Ville de Pointe-Claire
[1:24:47] demande au CIUSSS de l'Ouest à
[1:24:48] liste de veiller à ce que les
[1:24:49] heures de comme détail approprie
[1:24:51] soit aménagé à l'intérieur et à
[1:24:53] l'extérieur de l'immeuble prévue
[1:24:54] pour la maison des aînés. Afin
[1:24:57] d'accueillir de la verdure et un
[1:24:58] jardin avec des sièges
[1:24:59] appropriés pour les résidents et
[1:25:01] les visiteurs et que des mesures
[1:25:03] soient prises pour faciliter
[1:25:04] l'accès à la maison des aînés. À
[1:25:06] ses fins, la Ville de
[1:25:08] Pointe-Claire s'engage à
[1:25:09] collaborer étroitement avec le
[1:25:10] CIUSSS de l'ouest de l'île sur
[1:25:11] une base régulière afin d'aider
[1:25:12] à maintenir une qualité de vie
[1:25:14] souhaitable pour les résidents
[1:25:15] et les voisins de la maison des
[1:25:17] aînés.
[1:25:19] - Pour 6,4... 8.1 Autoriser la
[1:25:21] participation d'une employée au
[1:25:22] Forum Ville Viables 2024
[1:25:23] organisé par Conseil
[1:25:24] international pour les
[1:25:25] initiatives écologiques locales
[1:25:26] (ICLEI)
[1:25:27] , devant se tenir du 23 au 25
[1:25:28] octobre 2024 à Vancouver,
[1:25:29] Colombie-Britannique. Do I have
[1:25:30] a mover? And seconder?
[1:25:31] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:25:32] >> All in favour?
[1:25:33] >> 7.1 Appoint members to the
[1:25:34] Environment and Sustainable
[1:25:35] Development Advisory Committee.
[1:25:37] This process serves to recommend
[1:25:38] the nomination of three new
[1:25:40] citizen members with a voting
[1:25:41] right to the environment and
[1:25:43] sustainable development advisory
[1:25:44] committee, namely came Matt, is
[1:25:46] Sheila arson, and Matthew
[1:25:48] Lapointe. Mandates will begin
[1:25:50] today October 1st 2024 and will
[1:25:52] end October six 2026, with
[1:25:54] possibility of renewal.
[1:26:11] Participation de madame a laissé
[1:26:13] une surveiller, conseillère
[1:26:15] principale, développement
[1:26:16] durable et transition
[1:26:20] écologique... les forums des
[1:26:24] villes vivable est-elle
[1:26:25] événement phare de
[1:26:26] (inaudible)
[1:26:27] conçu pour rassembler les
[1:26:28] communautés. International
[1:26:29] council for local environmental
[1:26:30] initiatives.
[1:26:41] Locales
[1:26:42] (ICLEI)
[1:26:43] soutient l'action locale
[1:26:44] (---)
[1:26:45] la résilience, la durabilité les
[1:26:46] objectifs de biodiversité.
[1:26:48] - Pour 7,1 à 8,1...
[1:26:51] Do I have a mover?
[1:26:52] >> I move to approve, Tara
[1:26:55] Stainforth, district four.
[1:26:56] >> And seconder?
[1:26:58] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[1:27:00] >> All in favour? - Merci! 9.1
[1:27:04] Approve the evaluation criteria
[1:27:05] to be used within the framework
[1:27:06] of a call for tenders to be
[1:27:07] launched for professional photo
[1:27:08] and video services. These
[1:27:10] criteria, based in large part on
[1:27:12] competence and achievements,
[1:27:13] will be used by the committee
[1:27:15] developing the bids received.
[1:27:16] Approuver les critères
[1:27:17] d'évaluation devant être
[1:27:18] employés dans le cadre de
[1:27:19] l'appel d'offre devant être
[1:27:20] lancé pour des services
[1:27:21] professionnels en graphisme. Ces
[1:27:22] critères basés notamment sur la
[1:27:24] compétence et les réalisations
[1:27:25] seront utilisés par le comité
[1:27:26] qui évaluera les soumissions
[1:27:28] reçues. >> For 9.1 and 9.2, do I
[1:27:33] have a mover?
[1:27:34] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:27:35] >> And seconder?
[1:27:37] Claude Cousineau, district un.
[1:27:39] >> All in favour?
[1:27:43] >> 10.1 two File the list of
[1:27:45] budget amendments and the
[1:27:46] register of cheques for the
[1:27:47] period of August 24, 2024, to
[1:27:48] September 20, 2024.
[1:27:51] 10.2 Adhérer au regroupement du
[1:27:52] ministère de la Cybersécurité et
[1:27:53] du Numérique pour les solutions
[1:27:54] d'infrastructure-service
[1:27:55] (IAAS)
[1:27:56] , de plateformesservice
[1:27:57] (PAAS)
[1:27:58] et de logiciels-service
[1:27:59] (SAAS)
[1:28:00] reliées.
[1:28:01] Le service nous permettra
[1:28:02] d'avoir un stockage illimité
[1:28:04] ainsi que les fonctionnalités et
[1:28:06] Discovery sauvegardait
[1:28:07] restauration pour nos 525
[1:28:10] licences. Les services de
[1:28:11] sauvegarde couvrent nos licences
[1:28:12] Office 365 ainsi que OneDrive,
[1:28:15] Sharp pointe et Thames. >> 10.3
[1:28:19] Authorize a budget amendment due
[1:28:20] to a water consumption
[1:28:21] adjustment and rate adjustment
[1:28:24] for the year 2023 received from
[1:28:25] the City of Montreal. The value
[1:28:26] of the Adjustment is $237,000
[1:28:30] and $20.02, and the ballots
[1:28:32] available in the budget is
[1:28:35] $109,758. Consequently, a budget
[1:28:37] a man in the amount of
[1:28:41] $127,263.02 is acquired. 10.4
[1:28:42] Octroyer un contrat pour des
[1:28:43] services d'entretien et
[1:28:44] d'assistance technique pour les
[1:28:45] produits PG Solutions, à PG
[1:28:46] Solutions, pour un montant total
[1:28:47] de 196 946,43 $, taxes incluses.
[1:28:54] Les logiciels visés sont accès
[1:28:56] territoire, accès cités et
[1:28:57] territoires, accès citer
[1:28:59] documents assez aux finances,
[1:29:01] assez aux loisirs, les logiciels
[1:29:03] musique et accès citée en ligne
[1:29:04] pour la ligne 2025.
[1:29:07] - Pour 10,2 à 10,4. Do I have a
[1:29:10] movie?
[1:29:11] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:29:13] >> Seconder?
[1:29:17] >> All in favour? 11.1 File the
[1:29:22] audit report from la Commission
[1:29:23] municipale du Québec regarding
[1:29:24] the by-law adoption process. In
[1:29:26] accordance with section 86.8 of
[1:29:27] the act respecting the
[1:29:29] commission of Municipalities, we
[1:29:30] are artists submit to Council a
[1:29:33] follow-up report on the
[1:29:34] implementation of
[1:29:35] recommendations concerning the
[1:29:36] bylaw adoption process. The
[1:29:37] audit was carried out by the sea
[1:29:38] M Q with four cities of the
[1:29:40] population between 10,000 and
[1:29:44] 99,999. The City of
[1:29:45] Pointe-Claire was one of 23
[1:29:46] cities audited.
[1:29:48] 11.2 Approuver une entente à
[1:29:49] intervenir avec Réseau de
[1:29:50] transport métropolitain
[1:29:51] (EXO)
[1:29:52] concernant la prolongation de
[1:29:53] l'interruption du délai de
[1:29:54] prescription. Il est dans
[1:29:55] l'intérêt des parties de
[1:29:57] s'entendre pour une interruption
[1:29:58] des prescriptions concernant
[1:29:59] tous les sommes qui seraient
[1:30:00] dues entre elles. Relations avec
[1:30:01] les ententes pour le partage des
[1:30:03] responsabilités affaire ont à
[1:30:04] l'entretien, aux travaux mineurs
[1:30:05] et aux travaux majeurs des trois
[1:30:07] gares couvrant la période du 1er
[1:30:08] janvier 2019 au 31 mai 2023. >>
[1:30:12] For 11.2, do I have a mover?
[1:30:15] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:30:17] >> Seconder?
[1:30:18] >> Claude Cousineau, district
[1:30:20] two.
[1:30:21] >> All those in favour?
[1:30:22] >> Thank you. 12.1 File the list
[1:30:26] of delegated staff changes for
[1:30:27] the month of October 2024. 12.2
[1:30:28] Approuver la liste des
[1:30:29] changements au personnel par
[1:30:30] décisions non déléguées au 1
[1:30:31] octobre 2024. Fort 12,2, un 14.2
[1:30:34] Octroyer un contrat pour la
[1:30:35] fourniture et livraison d'un
[1:30:36] (1)
[1:30:37] godet tamiseur neuf pour
[1:30:38] chargeuse sur roues, à Longus
[1:30:39] Equipment Inc., pour un montant
[1:30:40] total de 69 214,95 $, taxes
[1:30:41] incluses. Do I have a mover?
[1:30:42] >> I just want to -- I think
[1:30:43] somebody was potentially gonna
[1:30:44] vote against it. No, okay, I
[1:30:45] apologize. Eric Stork, district
[1:30:46] seven.
[1:30:47] >> And seconder?
[1:30:48] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[1:30:49] >> All in favour?
[1:30:54] >> So 14.1, Award a contract for
[1:30:57] the supply and the installation
[1:31:00] illuminated pedestrian
[1:31:01] crossings, to Trafic Innovation
[1:31:02] Inc., for a total amount of $
[1:31:04] 62,598.14, taxes included. The
[1:31:08] contract will be completed
[1:31:09] between mid September 2024 --
[1:31:12] 2024, and mid September 2025.
[1:31:28] >> 14.3 Award a contract for the
[1:31:29] supply and the delivery of two
[1:31:30] (2)
[1:31:31] used tracked sidewalk snow
[1:31:32] removal machines, to Les
[1:31:33] Equipments Plannord Ltée., For a
[1:31:34] total amount of $ 418,738.95,
[1:31:35] taxes included.
[1:31:40] 15.1 Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:31:41] des services professionnels pour
[1:31:42] une étude PFT de six piscines
[1:31:43] extérieures et leur chalet, à
[1:31:44] Cardin Julien Inc., pour un
[1:31:45] montant total de 193 158,00 $,
[1:31:46] taxes incluses.
[1:31:53] Cette étude servira à la
[1:31:56] planification des travaux à
[1:32:00] établir l'état de dégradation et
[1:32:01] les investissements nécessaires
[1:32:02] pour les années à venir. >> 15.2
[1:32:07] Approve a change order to the
[1:32:08] contract entered into with
[1:32:09] Groupe Cirtech Inc., for roofing
[1:32:10] works at Cedar and Ovide park
[1:32:12] chalets, for an amount of $
[1:32:13] 16,253.56, taxes included. The
[1:32:19] modification concerns the
[1:32:20] details of the parapet and
[1:32:21] slopes, which have been revised
[1:32:23] according to the structural
[1:32:24] engineers expertise. Do I have a
[1:32:30] mover?
[1:32:31] Claude Cousineau districts à 30.
[1:32:33] >> And seconder?
[1:32:35] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[1:32:37] >> All in favour?
[1:32:38] 16.1 Approuver une modification
[1:32:39] au contrat intervenu avec
[1:32:40] 7574479 Canada Inc., pour la
[1:32:41] réfection complète d'un escalier
[1:32:42] au parc Terra-Cotta, pour un
[1:32:43] montant de 5 546,39 $, taxes
[1:32:44] incluses.
[1:32:54] >> And 16.2, Approve a change
[1:32:57] order to the contract entered
[1:32:58] into with 130132 Canada Inc.
[1:32:59] (Larochelle Électrique)
[1:33:00] , for the installation of
[1:33:02] charging stations, for an amount
[1:33:03] of $ 14,082.82, taxes included.
[1:33:07] It is for a change in the
[1:33:09] calibre of the cables at the
[1:33:10] arena, City Hall, the library,
[1:33:12] all of Urquhart Sports Centre
[1:33:14] and Edgewater park.
[1:33:16] >> So for 16.1 and 16.2, do I
[1:33:19] have a mover?
[1:33:20] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:33:22] >> And seconder? All those in
[1:33:27] favour?
[1:33:28] >> Thank you. Les personnes
[1:33:32] présentes peuvent s'adresser au
[1:33:33] Conseil concernant les points
[1:33:37] 17,1 à 17 virgule. The persons
[1:33:38] present may address Council on
[1:33:40] the items 17.1 and 17.2 for
[1:33:43] minor exemption.
[1:33:46] 17.1 Considérer une demande de
[1:33:47] dérogation mineure concernant la
[1:33:48] propriété située au 25, avenue
[1:33:49] Claremont. Pour permettre une
[1:33:52] clôture d'une hauteur de 1,82
[1:33:54] mètres situé en marge avant,
[1:33:56] plus que le maximum permis de 1
[1:33:58] mètre. Vous avez une
[1:34:02] recommandation favorable du
[1:34:04] Comité consultatif d'urbanisme.
[1:34:09] >> 17.2 Consider a minor
[1:34:10] exemption request concerning the
[1:34:11] property situated at 47 Little
[1:34:12] Rock Avenue. It is to permit the
[1:34:13] construction of a car port when
[1:34:14] it is not permitted by a
[1:34:16] particular provision in the E.R.
[1:34:18] 49, and a car port with the
[1:34:19] sidestep pack of 1.54 metres
[1:34:22] rather than the required win of
[1:34:24] 2.4 metres, and have a federal
[1:34:26] recommendation from the P.A.C..
[1:34:29] 17.3 Considérer les plans
[1:34:31] d'implantation et d'intégration
[1:34:32] architecturale relatifs à la
[1:34:33] propriété située au 60, avenue
[1:34:34] de Breslay. C'est une rénovation
[1:34:38] de fenêtres et le retrait de la
[1:34:40] cheminée vous avez une
[1:34:41] recommandation favorable du CCU.
[1:34:45] >> 17 point, four Consider the
[1:34:47] site planning and architectural
[1:34:48] integration programme plans with
[1:34:49] respect to the property situated
[1:34:50] at 119 Duke-of-Kent Avenue. It
[1:34:51] is concerning the removal of
[1:34:53] horizontal wood cladding on part
[1:34:54] of the first floor front facade
[1:34:56] to be replaced by artificial
[1:34:57] stone cladding. You have an
[1:34:59] unfavourable recommendation from
[1:35:00] the PRC.
[1:35:01] 17.5 Considérer les plans
[1:35:02] d'implantation et d'intégration
[1:35:03] architecturale relatifs à la
[1:35:04] propriété située au 107, avenue
[1:35:05] de la Pointe-Claire. Pour un
[1:35:08] changement de couleur démolir
[1:35:09] des fenêtres et des
[1:35:11] modifications au design de la
[1:35:12] véranda. Vous avez également une
[1:35:15] recommandation favorable du CCU.
[1:35:20] >> 17.6 Consider the site
[1:35:21] planning and architectural
[1:35:22] integration programme plans with
[1:35:23] respect to the property situated
[1:35:24] at 8 Victoria Avenue. It is
[1:35:25] concerning the change of the
[1:35:26] colour of the siding, the doors,
[1:35:28] and the windows, and to modify
[1:35:30] architectural details, and you
[1:35:31] have the favourable
[1:35:33] recommendation from the Planning
[1:35:34] Advisory Committee. Pour 17,1
[1:35:38] 17,6... 18.1 Approuver une
[1:35:39] entente à intervenir avec le
[1:35:40] Club de golf Beaconsfield pour
[1:35:41] l'implantation d'une piste de
[1:35:42] ski de fonds pour la saison
[1:35:43] hivernale 2024-2025. Do I have a
[1:35:44] mover?
[1:35:45] >> Brent Cowan, I moved to
[1:35:46] accept and confirm the
[1:35:47] recommendations of the Planning
[1:35:48] Advisory Committee for items 17
[1:35:49] point 12 items 17.6. Brent
[1:35:50] Cowan, district eight.
[1:35:51] >> And seconder?
[1:35:52] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[1:35:53] four.
[1:35:54] >> All in favour?
[1:35:55] >> Thank you.
[1:36:02] Cette entente permet la mission
[1:36:04] d'opérations d'une piste de ski
[1:36:05] de fond toute la saison sur un
[1:36:06] terrain qui n'est pas la
[1:36:07] propriété de la ville. >> 18.2
[1:36:11] Approve a lease to be entered
[1:36:12] into with Nada Niwan and Elie
[1:36:13] Merheb for the food concession
[1:36:14] at the Bob-Birne Arena. En 18,1
[1:36:18] à 18,2... 18.3 Approuver une
[1:36:20] entente à intervenir avec le
[1:36:21] Club aquatique de Pointe-Claire
[1:36:22] Inc. Do I have a mover?
[1:36:23] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:36:24] >> And seconder?
[1:36:27] >>
[1:36:28] >> All in favour?
[1:36:29] >> Mr. Stork. Thank you.
[1:36:33] Concernant l'établissement des
[1:36:35] lignes directrices de
[1:36:36] fonctionnement du Club, les
[1:36:37] modalités et les conditions
[1:36:38] relatives au versement, par la
[1:36:39] Ville, d'une subvention annuelle
[1:36:40] de fonctionnement et la mise à
[1:36:41] disposition du Club des
[1:36:42] installations et du matériel
[1:36:43] nécessaires à la réalisation de
[1:36:44] tout plan d'action.
[1:36:53] >> For 18.3, do I have a mover?
[1:36:57] >> Paul Bissonnette, district
[1:36:58] two.
[1:36:59] >> And seconder?
[1:37:02] >> All in favour?
[1:37:04] >> Thank you. 18.4 Approve a
[1:37:07] financial aid agreement to be
[1:37:08] entered into between the City of
[1:37:09] Pointe-Claire and AlterGo, in
[1:37:10] accordance with the Recreational
[1:37:12] Assistance for Persons with
[1:37:13] Disabilities Program of the
[1:37:14] ministre de l'Éducation, du
[1:37:15] Loisir et du Sport, for the
[1:37:16] implementation of the leisure
[1:37:17] support program of the Island of
[1:37:18] Montreal for 2024-2025
[1:37:19] (PALÎM)
[1:37:20] . This financial assistance
[1:37:24] program provide the support
[1:37:25] service for kids attending the
[1:37:27] City of Pointe-Claire's day
[1:37:28] camps.
[1:37:29] >> For 18.4, do I have a mover?
[1:37:33] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[1:37:34] four.
[1:37:35] >> And seconder?
[1:37:36] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:37:37] >> All in favour? 19,1, projet
[1:37:44] de contamination de
[1:37:45] réhabilitation des sols des lots
[1:37:47] deux cinq neuf c'est dix à huit
[1:37:49] des 4 millions 254 à 275 du
[1:37:52] canal du Québec. C'est des lots
[1:37:55] situés au 173 et 173 c'est
[1:37:57] avenue Cartier. Dans le cas du
[1:38:00] programme climat seul plus du
[1:38:01] ministère de l'Environnement de
[1:38:02] la lutte contre les changements
[1:38:04] climatiques, il s'agit d'appuyer
[1:38:05] le projet de côté comme telle
[1:38:07] nation et réhabilitation des
[1:38:08] sols des lots précédemment
[1:38:11] mentionnés et le dépôt par le
[1:38:13] propriétaire de l'immeuble
[1:38:16] (intervention en anglais)
[1:38:17] de la demande d'aide financière
[1:38:18] dans le cadre du programme qui
[1:38:19] va seul plus du mystère de
[1:38:20] l'environnement de la lutte
[1:38:21] contre les changements
[1:38:23] climatiques du gouvernement du
[1:38:24] Québec.
[1:38:26] - Par 19 points...
[1:38:28] Do I have a mover?
[1:38:29] - Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[1:38:31] >> And seconder?
[1:38:34] >> I'll second. Brent Cowan, but
[1:38:36] I'd like to go ahead and make a
[1:38:38] comment. This is actually an
[1:38:40] exercise in transparency. The
[1:38:42] contract -- or the owner
[1:38:43] contractor wants to get a grant
[1:38:45] in order to assist in the
[1:38:47] contamination of the soil around
[1:38:48] his property on Cartier. The
[1:38:51] government, in order -- the
[1:38:53] government of Québec, in order
[1:38:54] to issue that, grant requires
[1:38:56] that the City of Pointe-Claire
[1:38:57] know about it and approved the
[1:39:00] idea, acknowledge the idea. That
[1:39:02] means that you know about it so
[1:39:05] that this is a requirement for
[1:39:06] the grant, so the chain of
[1:39:10] transparency means the citizens
[1:39:11] of Pointe-Claire are aware that
[1:39:13] this decontamination project
[1:39:14] going on on that particular
[1:39:18] address on Cartier, which means
[1:39:19] if you live around there, you
[1:39:22] can -- you are now alerted. So I
[1:39:25] think it's an important lesson
[1:39:26] in how transparency Works and
[1:39:28] Government. So I second this
[1:39:30] motion.
[1:39:31] >> All in favour?
[1:39:37] >> Foreclosure, do I have a
[1:39:38] mover?
[1:39:39] >> I need to, close Tara
[1:39:40] Stainforth, district four.
[1:39:41] >> And seconder?
[1:39:43] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:39:44] Bonsoir merci tout le monde! >>
[1:39:45] All in favour? Thanks, thanks
[1:39:48] folks.
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