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- ... Du 5 novembre 2024.

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Good evening, ladies and

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gentlemen. Welcome to the

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November 5th council

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meeting 2024.

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Nous sommes ravis de vous

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annoncer que le 23 octobre

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dernier, nous avons tenu une

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cérémonie officielle pour

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assermenter dix jeunes qui

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composent le comité consultatif

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jeunesse pour le mandat

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2024 à 2025. Ce comité

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consultatif a pour mission de

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formuler des recommandations

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et de donner une voix aux

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jeunes citoyennes et citoyens

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afin d'enrichir les activités et

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les services qui leur sont

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destinés. We are delight to

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introduce the ten young people

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who make up the Youth Advisory

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Board for the 2024-2025 term.

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For the second term,

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we have Albi Çullhaj,

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"André" Gariépy, Olivia

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Ginnetti, Anastasia Sabapathy...

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Alexandre Gariépy, merci.

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They're joined by the following

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new members: Dina El Azzouzi,

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Jason Chen, Michelle Ruoying Li,

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Olivia Rogers, Tianna Maughn

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et Chloe Guan. For the past six

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years, the city of Pointe-Claire

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has relied on the Youth Advisory

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Board to make permanent

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recommandations on behalf of

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young people in Pointe-Claire.

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It's a great asset for a city

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like Pointe-Claire to be

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surrounded by a dynamic group of

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young people who represent the

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voice of their generation to the

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municipal administration

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and elected officials.

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We wish them success in carrying

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out their mandate and thank them

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sincerely for their involvement.

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Encore une fois cette année, le

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nouveaux propos ont un automne

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bien remplie pour vous faire

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sortir et participer aux

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événements et activités pour

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profiter de l'automne. Nous

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venons de publier le nouveau

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calendrier d'activité automnale

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et hivernales des parcs,

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spécialement conçu pour les

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jeunes de 8 à 18 ans. Ces

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activités organisées les

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vendredi dès 18 heures à 21

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heures offrait l'espace

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sécuritaire et dynamique pour

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cette ouverture et socialiser.

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Cette saison, une variété

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d'activités proposé des sports

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les soirée cinéma, une sortie au

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qui est bien plus encore. Il y

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en a pour tous les goûts.

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Permettons à chacun et chacune

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de trouver l'activité qui lui

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convenait.

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Once again, we've got a busy

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fall in the store to get you out

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and about in participing in

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events and activities to make

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the most of November.

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We just annonced a new fall and

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winter parks program, specially

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designed for youth aged 8 to 18.

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These activities held every

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Friday from 6 to 9 PM provide

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a safe and engaging space

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for fun and socializing.

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Registration is done on site on

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the day of the activity. Youth

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are free to participate and

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enjoy the flexibility to come

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and go as they please.

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Expo-sciences. Les centres

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culturel accueille une nouvelle

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exposition des sciences, les

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neuf et 19 membres. Un nombre de

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domaines scientifiques selon

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(inaudible)

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tout au long de la fin de

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semaine. Dans la physique, la

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chimie, la biologie est bien

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d'autres. Jeunes et moins jeunes

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pourront vivre à des expériences

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qui trouveront des réponses à

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leurs questions dans un

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environnement créatif.

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In collaboration with Concordia

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University, Stewart Hall will be

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hosting the interactive science

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exhibition for children, parents

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and the general public

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to demystify science.

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A number of scientific fields

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will be reprensented all weekend

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including physics, chemistry,

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engineering, biology

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and many others.

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Kids and adults will find

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answers to their questions in a

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fun and creative environment.

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Le jour du Souvenir. C'est le 10

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novembre prochain qui nous

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inviterons les citoyens citoyens

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apprendre par dé jour du

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Souvenir dès 10 heures 30. Pour

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l'occasion, tout la communauté

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de Pointe-Claire étaient invités

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à porter le coquelicot, symbole

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associé à la mémoire de ceux qui

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sont morts à la guerre pour

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défendre la liberté et... la

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liberté dont nous profitons tous

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les jours. La cérémonie se

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déroulera à 10 heures 30, au

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centre cénotaphe, monument à la

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mémoire des soldats disparus à

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l'arrière de l'hôtel de ville.

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Les drapeaux seront mis en

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branle pour l'occasion. Et

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seront également pour le jour du

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Souvenir, le 11 novembre. We

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invite citizens to take part in

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the Remembrance Day

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commemoration ceremony on

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Sunday, November 10th starting

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at 10:30 a.m..

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For the occasion, entire

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Pointe-Claire community is to

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wear a poppy, a symbol associate

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with the memory of those who

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died in the war to defend the

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freedoms we still enjoy every

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day. The ceremony will take

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place at 10:30 a.m. at the

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cenotaph behind city hall. A

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monument built in the memory of

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fallen soldiers. Flags will be

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flown at half mast for the

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occasion. It will also be

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lowered for Remembrance Day on

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November 11th. Le train des

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fêtes passera à l'agora Valois,

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les ventres du 22 novembre

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prochain. C'est un rendez-vous

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n'est pas moi qui! C'est facile

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à manquer... le 30 novembre,

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venez nous rejoindre pour

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célébrer l'élimination de

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l'arbre de Noël dans le village

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de Pointe-Claire. It is in and

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out, but it's fun.

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Les festivités promettre d'être

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mémorable et sont ouvertes à

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tous les citoyennes et tous les

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citoyens petit écran.

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Holiday train will be passing on

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bylaw station on Friday,

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November 22nd to join us for the

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occasion. On November 30th,

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celebrate with us the lighting

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of the Christmas tree in the

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village of Pointe-Claire. The

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festivities promised to be

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memorable and are open to all

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citizens, young and old. Thank

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you. Merci à toutes et à tous!

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We do Councillors opening.

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Council reports, I will start

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with district A.

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>> I've been working very hard

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the last week distributing

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poppies properties, managing the

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poppy campaign. I see most

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people are wearing them so I

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think it's working. I cannot

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report so far we collected

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around $43,000 for the

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generosity of the people of

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Pointe-Claire. Thank you.

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>> Councillor?

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Rien de spécial Monsieur le

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Maire.

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>> Good evening. Bonsoir. Just

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an update on the project on

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Lakeshore, Lakeside and

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Lakeview. On Lakeview, by the

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end of November, paving will be

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finished. D'ici la fin novembre,

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il y aura le pavage permanent du

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Conseil des entrées.

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Et terrasse Armand, Savage de se

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chaussées...

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. On Lakeshore between Lakeview

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the paving and the driveways how

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completed. Now one lakeshore to

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lakeside, la Ville de

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Montréal procédera au pavage

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temporaire de la chaussée.

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Et des entrées d'ici le 20

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décembre. So Up until December

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20th, between Lakeside on the

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lakeshore, there will be doing a

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temporary paving of the roadway

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and the driveways.

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The contractor has -- will be

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coming back in spring of 2025 to

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finish the sidewalks, some

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foundations and permanent paving

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between terrasse and lakeside.

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semaines de fermeture complète

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du chemin bord du lac, sauf pour

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les autobus. During that time,

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spring of 25, the lakes will be

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closed for 3 to 4 weeks for

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buses has a finish the work

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there.

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According to the contract, the

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contractor has 590 days total to

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do the work and that takes them

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up to 11th of June, 2025 to

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finish everything. I know it has

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been difficult since

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administration has worked hard.

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Mr. Tanguay has worked very hard

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and trying to control the

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traffic a little bit. That is

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why the buses were really rooted

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in all kinds of things were

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done. It was a Montréal project,

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however, the people that are and

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trying to do what they can to

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try to make things better and

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easier. Le gouvernement de

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proximité... c'est presque fini.

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It has been a difficult project

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but nearing the end. Merci pour

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votre patience. C'est! Thanks

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for your patience.

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C'est tout, pardon. >>

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Councillor Homan?

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>> Good evening, I want to

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mention that this weekend on

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Sunday from 10 to 2 they'll be a

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food drive by the West Island

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mission. We did it last year. It

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is called porch to pantry. We

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are asking everyone to be very

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generous. If you can put out

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your donations in a bag on your

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porch and just mark indicate on

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it West Island Mission.

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Volunteers will go round and

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drive and pick it up. There is

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information on the City website.

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For those that can look on my

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Facebook page and a few of the

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really important. It's a big

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need. We have been doing so

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many. I mean the old-timers did

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their wonderful food drive. I

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say it's that time of year. I

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feel like this year has been a

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constant so please be generous

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and thank you very much.

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Conseiller Tremblay! >> I think?

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Councillor Stork?

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- Bonjour à tous. >> Just a

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couple of follow-up points for

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the north and east have been.

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summer, the construction work on

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one drop is basically almost

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completed.

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weather permitting. It will be

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so it is over for the winter and

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it will be continued about six

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weeks late. La première couche,

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comme ils disent.

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I commend the City for doing

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everything they can in terms of

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the work they did. They were

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there every day, making sure

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they did not start early to the

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best of their ability. The

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second point is there is an

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important thing on the agenda

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today that I think maybe has not

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given enough light. It is the

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passing of the notion to motion

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and acceptance, basically, of

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accessory dwelling units.

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Basically it's a new bylaw that

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has been done right across

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pretty much the world now to add

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accessory dwelling units to our

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homes. Whether allowing you to

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extend your garage provided that

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it is certain. Obviously zoning

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bylaws to build a little shed in

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the back four in last weeks and

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things like that. It's a real

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great initiative to increase the

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housing stock, let people stay

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in their homes, that the

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relatives, their parents stay in

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their home by heading a dwelling

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over your garage or in the

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backyard so I think that's a big

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thing. It's disgusting but I

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think it is -- I commend

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Councillor administration for

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doing that because we are in a

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housing crisis there's a lot of

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homes that needed. Outside of

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that, I thank you, Mister Mayor.

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Je vais le dire en français. >>

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The adoption of the agenda. Do I

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have a mover?

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>> District three.

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>> And seconder?

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>> District four.

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>> All in favour?

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>> Mister Mayor, I would like to

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address is, basically I'd like

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to move an amendment to have a

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vote on the following resolution

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added to the agenda. This

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resolution has was published, it

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has been modified quite a bit.

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It is basically as I mentioned

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last month or last two weeks ago

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at the special meeting and I

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just wanted to say a small

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little thing here. Here we go,

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as was discussed in the last

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special meeting, I believe this

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entire Council is committed to

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public consultation and public

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respect. As we committed to the

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last meeting we looked at the

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resolution and we are able to

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maintain some of the key points

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of the mayors resolution and

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have compiled the concerns of

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the rest of the council.

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Therefore, I'm proposing the

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following resolution to be added

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to the agenda today. It has

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changed, it has been watered

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down, it has been modified, it

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has been thinned out and it was

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a good party discussion in

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caucus to get to where we got so

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I think this is a positive and

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hopefully this will pass

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tonight. If somebody seconded,

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I'm sure they will say ten

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English. C'est une résolution

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visant à rétablir une approche

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claire pour envisager l'avenir

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des espaces verts privée par la

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participation du public un

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processus de consultation.

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Attendu que... le public

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démontre un fort intérêt à

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préserver les quelques forêts,

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milieux humides et habitats

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naturels et substances du

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territoire de Pointe-Claire.

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Considérant que les

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circonstances ont changé à

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savoir... le projet de loi 39 a

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été adopté par la

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(inaudible)

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du Québec qui attribue certains

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pouvoirs aux municipalités pour

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pouvoir protéger les espaces

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verts, les milieux humides, les

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forêts et les habitants

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naturels. Le projet de loi 21

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concerne la révision des

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procédures d'expropriation

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ouverte aux municipalités tel

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que Pointe-Claire, également

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être adapté par l'Assemblée

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nationale de Québec. Le

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(inaudible)

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le deuxième projet a été publié

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écarte... clarifier les

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exigences de la clarté

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Métropolis de Montréal et de

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l'agglomération de Montréal à

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l'écart de Pointe-Claire.

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Notamment, en ce qui a trait les

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(inaudible)

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densification dans les zones

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théoriques. Et, oui le maire a

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dit guépard... il y a deux

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semaines qu'il propose sur des

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consultations publiques qu'ils

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aimeraient cette consultation

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publique. Par conséquent, les

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résolu que l'administration de

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la Ville obtient les

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renseignements nécessaires à

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savoir... les mesures permises

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par la loi 39 pour protéger la

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valeur écologique des espaces

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verts.

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- Les droits de procédure et les

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coûts en vertu du projet de loi

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22 en ce qui concerne des

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espaces verts privée. Les

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programmes... dernièrement, les

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programmes offerts par les

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niveaux supérieurs du

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gouvernement pour aider à

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l'acquisition sous la protection

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des espaces verts.

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L'administration ressemblerais

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et considérait des

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(inaudible)

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sous mentionnés dans un rapport

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initial pour concernés examiner

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le plus tard le ferry et 2025.

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Une fois révisée, le ballon

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d'action pour la

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(inaudible)

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du public sera annoncé de

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s'engager dans les processus

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consultatifs.

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En anglais.

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>> And seconder?

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>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

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district three.

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I would like to read the same

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resolution in English. We moved

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to propose resolution to

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reestablish a clear path forward

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for envisioning the future of

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green spaces through

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participation of the public in

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the consultation process with

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city planners. Whereas the

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public has a strong interest in

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preserving the-limited forest,

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wetlands and natural habitats

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that remain on the territory of

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Pointe-Claire. Whereas

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circumstances have now changed

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in that bill 39 has been adopted

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into law by the national of

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Québec, which has assigned

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certain powers to municipalities

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to protect green spaces,

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wetlands, fourth and natural

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habitats. Be Bill 22 considers

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the probation procedures that

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would open such as Pointe-Claire

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has also been adopted by the

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National simply a Pointe-Claire.

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C second draft has been

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released, which gives greater

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clarity regarding what the

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Montréal metropolitan community

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in the Montréal conglomeration

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will be required from

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Pointe-Claire specifically with

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respect intensification zones

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and points D, Mayor Thomas has

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indicated through his own recent

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proposed resolution on public

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consultations that he would like

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that public consultations.

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Therefore, be it resolved that

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the administration the sea of

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Pointe-Claire acquired the

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necessary information to it, a,

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measure under be threatening to

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protect the ecological value of

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private green spaces. The, right

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procedures and costs under built

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Bill 22 that would pertain to

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hybrid green spaces, C,

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program's offered by high your

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levels of government to assist

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in the acquisition or protection

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of green spaces. The

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administration will gather and

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consolidate the aforementioned

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information into initial report

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for Council to review no later

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than February 1st, 2025. Once

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reviewed, a public participation

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action plan will be announced to

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engage in the consultation

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process.

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>> Before we vote, would anybody

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like to speak? Councillor

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Cousineau?

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>> I noticed that on the

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document that we were handed

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over in French, it says didn't

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say the same thing in English in

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the title.

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Des espaces verts publics...

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privés.

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C'est supposé être les deux. >>

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Private green spaces.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Councillor Cowan?

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>> I think is a great initiative

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to vote on this I hope my

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colleagues on the council will

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submit the change to the agenda

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so we can vote on this

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resolution.

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>> Anybody else? I will just

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speak to it quickly. We had an

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interesting meeting before

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tonight and I think possibly a

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breakthrough meeting but it was

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-- the city dramatically changed

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document from what many of you

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may have seen or heard about

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before this meeting. It is

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dramatically change and it shows

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the willingness to adapt and

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move forward and I think it's

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positive. It's a positive thing.

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My only concern in the current

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wording and I have not had

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enough time to a simulated, is

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that I would like the 30% green

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space emphasis to be installed

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-- inserted into the document.

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Maybe some more specifications

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adds to what type of

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consultation and what impact or

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how that consultation will be

563
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000
used. The information gleaned

564
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will be used. Other than that, I

565
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000
think it's a remarkable

566
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occurrence and I'm neutral

567
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000
positive. Moving forward, I

568
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,000
think that is a good thing.

569
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000
>> The vote for the amendment.

570
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>> All in favour of the

571
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000
amendment added to the agenda?

572
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000
>> Hold on.

573
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,000
>> Who is in favour for the

574
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000
amendment to vote?

575
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,000
>> All in favour? How against?

576
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000
>> Then we go back to the

577
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adoption of the agenda with the

578
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000
amendment.

579
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000
>> For the adoption of the

580
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000
agenda with the amendment, do I

581
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000
have a mover?

582
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000
>> It was moved.

583
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,000
>> It was previously moved and

584
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000
seconded.

585
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,060
>> We just follow?

586
00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:01,060
>> It is about.

587
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,060
>> All in favour?

588
00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:05,060
>> Thank you.

589
00:21:05,060 --> 00:21:10,060
>> Against?

590
00:21:13,060 --> 00:21:14,060
Proclamer le mois de juin comme

591
00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:15,060
étant le mois du patrimoine

592
00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:18,060
philippin. >> You will be happy

593
00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:20,060
to know that June will now be

594
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the official month, proclaim the

595
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month of June of Pointe-Claire's

596
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Filipino heritage month and we

597
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welcome the members of the

598
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Association here tonight and I

599
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believe they are speaking in

600
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first in question period. It's

601
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an honour to have you here and

602
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we are thrilled to do this.

603
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>> Sorry 3.1, to approve the

604
00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:48,060
meeting of October 21st, 2024,

605
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as well as a special meeting of

606
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October 15th, 2024.

607
00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:55,060
>> For the minutes for 3.1 to

608
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approve the minutes of Special

609
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meeting. To have a mover?

610
00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:02,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

611
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district three.

612
00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:07,020
>> And seconder?

613
00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:09,020
>> Tara Stainforth, district

614
00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:10,020
four.

615
00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:14,020
>> All in favour? Perhaps the

616
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most important part of the

617
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evening Ce soir, nous allons

618
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rendre hommage à la mémoire de

619
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:22,020
monsieur Denis Francis Smith,

620
00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:24,020
décédé le 18 septembre dernier,

621
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à l'âge de 74 ans. Il a servi

622
00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:29,020
les citoyens de la ville de

623
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Pointe-Claire en tant que

624
00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,020
conseiller municipal pendant 12

625
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années. Ce soir, nous avons

626
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invité son épouse, madame Karine

627
00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:43,020
faisait Baxter sa famille, ses

628
00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:44,020
amis ainsi que d'anciens maires

629
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et conseillers qui l'ont côtoyé

630
00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:52,020
durant ces montants. Il était

631
00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:53,020
enseignant, assistant de

632
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:56,020
circonscription du député

633
00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:57,020
(intervention en anglais)

634
00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:58,020
est bénévole communautaire très

635
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impliqués auprès de notre

636
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080
communauté. Il a aussi été un

637
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,080
acteur très important dans la

638
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080
lutte de Pointe-Claire pour la

639
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080
diffusion. En tant que

640
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,080
conseiller municipal, il a

641
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080
représenté le district sept,

642
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,080
North Viau, de 2005 à 2017. Il a

643
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,080
toujours servi ses électeurs

644
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,080
avec beaucoup de

645
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,080
professionnalisme. Nous lui

646
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,080
devons beaucoup. Nous offrons

647
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080
tous nos collègues...

648
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
condoléances à sa famille et sa

649
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
famille. This evening we pay

650
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,080
tribute to the memory of Dennis

651
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,080
Francis Smith, who passed away

652
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,080
on September 18 at the age of

653
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080
74.

654
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080
He served the citizens of

655
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,080
Pointe-Claire as a municipal

656
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
councillor for 12 years. This

657
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,080
evening we have invited his

658
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,080
wife, Mrs. Karen Zey tax, remind

659
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080
us we have former mayors and

660
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,080
councillors who worked with him

661
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,080
during his mandates. A teacher,

662
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,080
constituency assistant to MP

663
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,040
Clifford Lincoln, and longtime

664
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,040
community volunteer, he was one

665
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,040
of the leaders of

666
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040
Pointe-Claire's fight for

667
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,040
demerger. He was representing

668
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,040
District 7, Northview, from 2005

669
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040
to 2017, serving his

670
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040
constituents with

671
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,040
professionalism. We owe him a

672
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,040
dept of gratitude. We offer our

673
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,040
sincere condolences to his son

674
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,040
Adam who is watching this

675
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040
tribute online. And now I invite

676
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,040
Madam Zey Baxter to join me, to

677
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,040
receive a certificate of

678
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040
recognition from the City of

679
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,040
Pointe-Claire. Pictures will be

680
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,040
taken with those present with

681
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,040
council members and special

682
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,040
guest. I guess we will be doing

683
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,040
this upfront.

684
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040
[Applause]

685
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040
(applaudissements)

686
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:07,060
[Applause]

687
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:37,060
[Applause]

688
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:04,020
Merci Monsieur le Maire et

689
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:05,020
membre du Conseil de nous avoir

690
00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:07,020
invités ce soir. Thank you very

691
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:08,020
much, Mister Mayor and members

692
00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:09,020
of Council or for inviting us in

693
00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:12,020
this evening.

694
00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:13,020
Ça fait au-dessus de 20 ans...

695
00:27:13,020 --> 00:27:14,020
la deuxième fois que je l'ai vu,

696
00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:15,020
c'est monsieur Mike Murphy qui

697
00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:16,020
avait demandé à Denis et à

698
00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:17,020
monsieur Rob garde un qui n'est

699
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:18,020
pas ce soir, de nous aider à

700
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:19,020
participer au conseil municipal

701
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:20,020
de Montréal. It's much

702
00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,020
appreciated by myself and my ex

703
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:22,020
colleagues. They are still

704
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:23,020
colleagues. Mister Mayor, you

705
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:24,020
stole a few of my lines here

706
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:25,020
that I was going to say this

707
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:27,020
evening but I will say them

708
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:32,020
anyway. I have known Denis over

709
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:34,020
20 years I have known Denis

710
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:35,020
Smith. I believe the first time

711
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:38,020
that I saw him, he was going

712
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:41,020
into a local restaurant with

713
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:44,020
friends for breakfast. This is

714
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,020
maybe 22 years ago or something

715
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:51,020
to that effect. I spoke to him

716
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:52,020
and that is what the first time

717
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:55,020
I met him. Then

718
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
we were joining the Montréal

719
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
political scene back then and,

720
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,080
to be quite honest with you, we

721
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,080
did not know too much about it

722
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,080
and I don't think we know much

723
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,080
more today but anyway that is

724
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,080
another story. We had to raise

725
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080
money for the political machine

726
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,080
in Montréal. Dennis was a big

727
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,080
part of that and he sort of

728
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,080
calmed us down. Okay, take it

729
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,080
easy, we will find a way and

730
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080
there is always a way. The way

731
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,080
it worked out was that we found

732
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080
-- had to raise I believe it was

733
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,080
$10,000. That is right, it was

734
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,080
$10,000. Dennis, after talking

735
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,040
with various people, came up

736
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,040
with a plan. Go and find ten of

737
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,040
your friends and asked them to

738
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040
raise $100 from ten of their

739
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,040
friends and that is how we ended

740
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,040
up doing it. Dennis, as the

741
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040
mayor said earlier, he worked

742
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,040
for Mr. Clifford Lincoln. Then

743
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,040
he hit the big time. He became a

744
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Council in the City of

745
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Pointe-Claire. And he did an

746
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,040
excellent job. In caucus, he had

747
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,040
so many ideas that we were all

748
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,040
in all of Dennis Smith. He never

749
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,040
went halfway. He always went 100

750
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,040
percent. When it was time for

751
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,040
the elections, I know he helped

752
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,040
me when I was running for mayor

753
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,040
and the things he put out on the

754
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,040
table, you should do this, you

755
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,000
should do this. He said you

756
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,000
should. He explained the right

757
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000
way to do it. I probably did

758
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000
most of them but not all of them

759
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000
because I just did not have the

760
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
time but he never said, well you

761
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000
should've done this, and you

762
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
should have done that. He was a

763
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,000
true professional, Dennis Smith.

764
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000
When I say we, I am talking

765
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000
about X Councillors of

766
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Pointe-Claire. We would meet

767
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
with Dennis, myself and we were

768
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000
about five or six. Used to have

769
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,000
breakfast once a week, someone

770
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Pointe-Claire. I believe it was

771
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Dennis who came up with the

772
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,000
name, we will call ourselves the

773
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Romeo's. Why the Romeo's? Well I

774
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
will tell you why, he said, he

775
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
said retired Old municipal

776
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,060
elected officials. Romeo's.

777
00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,060
That's not even today. We are

778
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:07,060
still called the Romeo's. To

779
00:31:07,060 --> 00:31:10,060
finish, I would like to say that

780
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:13,060
Janice was on Council. He helped

781
00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:16,060
provincial elections but he was

782
00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:19,060
also on the board where he lives

783
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:24,060
in the condo. He volunteered in

784
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:25,060
Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue. I

785
00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:28,060
believe it was Nova and he never

786
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:31,060
stopped. He never stopped.

787
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:34,060
Anyway, for me and my colleagues

788
00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:37,060
and members of Council, Dennis

789
00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:39,060
was a very special person and we

790
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:43,060
miss him. Thank you.

791
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:45,060
[Applause]

792
00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:58,060
C'était excellent, merci

793
00:31:58,060 --> 00:31:59,060
beaucoup! >> Thank you, Mayor

794
00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:02,020
Trudeau. Période des. Question

795
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:04,020
period. Pour la période de

796
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:06,020
questions, vous avez été

797
00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:08,020
accueilli à l'entrée pour vous

798
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:10,020
inscrire à la période de

799
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,020
questions, afin de vous

800
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:13,020
permettre de demeurer à vos

801
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:15,020
places jusqu'à l'appel de votre

802
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:16,020
nom.

803
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:17,020
(inaudible)

804
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:20,020
- Merci beaucoup. Absolutely.

805
00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:25,020
Merci! Thank you. Yes, there is

806
00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:29,020
something going on in the

807
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:31,020
States. There's a hockey game.

808
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:32,020
JP said there is a hockey game.

809
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:34,020
A man with perspective. I like

810
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:37,020
that. Vous avez été accueilli à

811
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:38,020
l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la

812
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:40,020
période de questions, afin de

813
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:42,020
vous permettre de demeurer à vos

814
00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:45,020
places jusqu'à l'appel de votre

815
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,020
nom. Nous garderons 90 minutes

816
00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:49,020
pour la période des questions.

817
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:51,020
Une personne à la fois au micro.

818
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,020
Nous vous remercions d'attendre

819
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:55,020
que les citoyens aient terminé

820
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:57,020
de poser sa question et que vous

821
00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:59,020
soyez appelés avant de vous

822
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:02,080
lever pour venir poser votre

823
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,080
question. Deux, nous accordons

824
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,080
la priorité aux résidentes et

825
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,080
aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.

826
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Les non-résidents pourront poser

827
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,080
leurs questions par la suite, si

828
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,080
le temps n'est pas écouler.

829
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Question here you are greeted at

830
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,080
the entrance to register so you

831
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,080
can remain seated until your

832
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,080
name is called.

833
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,080
Société du patrimoine des

834
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,080
Philippines de Montréal. We

835
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,080
shall stick to the 90 minute

836
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,080
time limit for your question

837
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080
period. One person at a time on

838
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,080
the microphone. Thank you for

839
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080
waiting. Thank you for waiting

840
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,080
for a citizen to ask their

841
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
question and to be called before

842
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,080
to ask yours. We give priority

843
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080
to the Pointe-Claire residents

844
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,080
and three non residents can ask

845
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080
their questions afterwards if

846
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,080
time has not run out. To begin,

847
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,080
we will start with our

848
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,080
honourable Society of the month

849
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,080
of June you would like to

850
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080
address? Vous voudrez parler

851
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,080
messieurs?

852
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,040
Okay.

853
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,040
>> Thank you. Can you hear me?

854
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Thank you, Mayor Thomas. Thank

855
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040
you everyone for the special

856
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,040
evening that you are giving us a

857
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,040
notice. My question is, it will

858
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,040
be coming soon. I have to read

859
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,040
first but I'm going to say.

860
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,040
I forgot my reading glasses.

861
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,040
There you go.

862
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,040
>> If I carried two pairs of

863
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,040
glasses --

864
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,040
>> I am terribly sorry about

865
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
that. Good evening, everyone.

866
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Bonsoir tout le monde! My name

867
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
is Ramona, I'm a longtime

868
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Pointe-Claire resident and chair

869
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,000
of the Filipino family services.

870
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
We provide social services to

871
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
the Filipino community in

872
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Québec. We recently wrote the

873
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
municipality to support a

874
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
request that Council adopt a

875
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000
motion to recognize June as a

876
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Filipino heritage month. That

877
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
request was first made by the

878
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Filipino heritage society and

879
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
united against hate Canada. As

880
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
part of the national effort to

881
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000
promote the heritage month and

882
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
to promote the twinning of

883
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
cities in Canada with partners

884
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,000
in the Philippines. It is a

885
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
campaign that is great residents

886
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
with us and with Filipinos

887
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,060
everywhere in Canada. We think

888
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:03,060
Mayor Thomas and the members of

889
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:06,060
the Council for so rapidly

890
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:09,060
following up. Tonight's motions,

891
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:13,060
to recognize every June as

892
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:17,060
Filipino heritage month in

893
00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:18,060
Pointe-Claire and we will be

894
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:21,060
appreciated by the growing

895
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,060
population of the Filipinos here

896
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:26,060
in our city. A number of other

897
00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:29,060
local communities have adapted

898
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:33,060
similar motions of this. For

899
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:36,060
example, Côte Saint-Luc did last

900
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,060
week. Others are planning local

901
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:41,060
ceremonies next June. My

902
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:45,060
question this evening is, can

903
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:47,060
Council invite the Filipino

904
00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:50,060
community in Pointe-Claire to a

905
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:52,060
flag raising ceremony or some

906
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:55,060
other ceremonies at City Hall

907
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:58,060
next June to mark the first

908
00:36:58,060 --> 00:37:02,020
heritage month in Pointe-Claire?

909
00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:04,020
Thank you, everyone, and good

910
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:05,020
evening.

911
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:08,020
>> Thank you, Ramona. I cannot

912
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:12,020
speak for Council but -- you

913
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:18,020
want to vote on it? Okay. All in

914
00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,020
favour? Yes, that is it, raising

915
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:22,020
a flag or some kind of ceremony

916
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:24,020
recognizing. Can we say some

917
00:37:24,020 --> 00:37:25,020
kind of ceremony, we can leave

918
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:30,020
it open recognizing that June is

919
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:34,020
month recognizing? Bringing up

920
00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:37,020
to caucus? Okay, we will bring

921
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:42,020
it up to caucus. Thank you.

922
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:48,020
Philippe Paré!

923
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:51,020
Phillipe Pare.

924
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:55,020
>> Good evening. Regarding 6.2 I

925
00:37:56,020 --> 00:37:58,020
was present with the question so

926
00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:00,080
I know much opposition and being

927
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080
the majority stakeholder so my

928
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,080
question is, what is the City of

929
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Pointe-Claire and the

930
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080
association of suburban

931
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,080
municipalities allowed to do

932
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,080
towards the City of Montréal to

933
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080
be able to have your voices

934
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,080
properly heard and respected?

935
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Are we speaking about a class

936
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,080
action lawsuit as the only

937
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,080
method to win your case?

938
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
>> That is a very good question.

939
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Twitch I'm not sure the answer.

940
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,080
We have all -- we are all

941
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,080
passing resolutions and we are

942
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,080
all objecting, we are all

943
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,080
arguing for the status quo. The

944
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,080
decision has not been to take

945
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,080
aside for our against but to

946
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,080
maintain the status quo and to

947
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,080
lead the entire decision up to

948
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,080
the scientific experts. Beyond

949
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,080
that, I cannot say much more

950
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,080
than that. I cannot speak for

951
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,080
all the other mayors but there

952
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080
has been the position adopted

953
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,080
that we object to the way it was

954
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,080
decided in how it was done and

955
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,080
we think the status quo

956
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,040
should've maintained.

957
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
>> Thank you.

958
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,040
>> John?

959
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040
>> Good evening, everyone. I

960
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,040
will try to be brief. I'm doing

961
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,040
a follow-up. I was here back in

962
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,040
September 3rd. This has to do

963
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,040
with the water overflow from 99

964
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
seater onto my property, 93

965
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040
seater. This goes back and I'm

966
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
going to be real quick to bring

967
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,040
everyone to give a context. This

968
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040
has been going on for two years.

969
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,040
The summer, again, we had issues

970
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
on our property and it was more

971
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
over and above the huge rainfall

972
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,040
we had. I met, on August 12, Mr.

973
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040
Tanguay, he referred me to the

974
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,040
urban team which I met in mid

975
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,040
September. In that meeting, they

976
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040
shared with me that they are

977
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,040
still waiting for revised plans

978
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,000
from the owner of 99 Cedar. That

979
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,000
they were waiting to receive. In

980
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
that same meeting, I was asked

981
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,000
to provide photos and videos

982
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,000
because I have kept track of the

983
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,000
last two years of the damage

984
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
that has been created on my

985
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
property from the overflow, the

986
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000
water flow from 99. On October

987
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,000
2nd, I provided the USB stick

988
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
with the additional information

989
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
that captured last year, 2023

990
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,000
and also 2024 that clearly

991
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
identified the issues. I

992
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
understand everyone is busy, the

993
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
week of the 20th of October I

994
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000
sent up a follow-up email.

995
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Madame did respond to me. We had

996
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
a call the following week where

997
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,000
she gave me an update in terms

998
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
of that they had received the

999
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,000
city has received some updated

1000
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
plans. What was disappointing in

1001
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,060
that conversation with I was

1002
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:01,060
told for the first time from

1003
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:03,060
October 2nd to October 29th,

1004
00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:05,060
when I spoke to her, that the

1005
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:09,060
USB stick, they were never -- I

1006
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:10,060
guess you're I teach apartment

1007
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,060
was not able to open it, which

1008
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:13,060
is pretty disappointing. It took

1009
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,060
three days. It was not full-time

1010
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,060
but it took me three days to put

1011
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:18,060
all the information together.

1012
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:22,060
Forget that, for a second. The

1013
00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:23,060
engineering teen never looked at

1014
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:27,060
the photos and videos since they

1015
00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:29,060
could not open the USB stick. I

1016
00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:32,060
would love for someone to tell

1017
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:34,060
me what needs to happen so you

1018
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:35,060
can. The appropriate people, I

1019
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:38,060
do not know if it's the

1020
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:39,060
engineering team so they can

1021
00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:43,060
look at the photos and the

1022
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:47,060
videos that have been shared. My

1023
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:49,060
question is, at the end of the

1024
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:50,060
day because I've been speaking

1025
00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:51,060
to a lot of people, at the end

1026
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:54,060
of the day, who is responsible

1027
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:56,060
and accountable that this work

1028
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:59,060
gets done at 99 Cedar correctly

1029
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:01,020
to avoid the water flow that

1030
00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:06,020
keeps coming on to my property?

1031
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:08,020
And in the instance where it

1032
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:11,020
does not work, what is the City

1033
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:14,020
prepared to do to help out

1034
00:42:14,020 --> 00:42:15,020
because I have been told

1035
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:16,020
everything is going to be okay

1036
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:18,020
after the revised plan. I have

1037
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:21,020
not seen a revised plan. Once it

1038
00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:23,020
gets done and something still

1039
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,020
does not work, who is

1040
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:27,020
accountable and responsible

1041
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:28,020
department that is going to help

1042
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:31,020
me out here.

1043
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:35,020
>> That is a very good question.

1044
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:36,020
Madame Verdon qui est

1045
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:37,020
responsable...

1046
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:38,020
>> I think your question has a

1047
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:40,020
lot of answers. It would be

1048
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:42,020
better because the personal file

1049
00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:43,020
that we discussed outside of the

1050
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:45,020
public meeting so I can call you

1051
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:47,020
tomorrow and explain all the

1052
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:52,020
process. I will look with the

1053
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:53,020
I.T. department if it's possible

1054
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:55,020
to open up a file.

1055
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:56,020
>> That would be great. Before I

1056
00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:59,020
handed it in I had that tested

1057
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:01,080
with three other people and it

1058
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,080
works. Now I understand

1059
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,080
everybody has firewalls and

1060
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,080
security thing so if I need to

1061
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,080
do something, I really think

1062
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,080
it's important that the

1063
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,080
engineering team gets to see how

1064
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,080
the water is flowing in the

1065
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,080
video and also the pictures that

1066
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,080
I sent.

1067
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,080
>> Go ahead.

1068
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,080
>> I'm finished. I am available

1069
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
tomorrow or Thursday if that is

1070
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,080
better but we can send an email

1071
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080
or we can talk.

1072
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,080
>> No problem. I will send an

1073
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080
email tomorrow and have a

1074
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,080
discussion on Thursday or Friday

1075
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,080
but we will find a time this

1076
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,080
week.

1077
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,080
>> Thank you.

1078
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,080
>> One question was not

1079
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,080
responded.

1080
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,080
[Inaudible]

1081
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
>> When needs to be done for

1082
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080
the? Could you go to the

1083
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,040
microphone, sir.

1084
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040
>> I was wondering because you

1085
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,040
did not answer the question,

1086
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,040
what needs exactly to be done

1087
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,040
from your side in order to be

1088
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
able to read the USB file. I am

1089
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
just curious.

1090
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,040
>> I would think, I'm going out

1091
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040
on a limb, our I.T. department

1092
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,040
has to figure out and if it does

1093
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,040
not work and get back which I'm

1094
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,040
sorry has not happened sooner.

1095
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,040
Thank you for your question.

1096
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Your follow-up. David Hunter?

1097
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,040
>> I'm a former resident of

1098
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Pointe-Claire. I grew up here

1099
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,040
many years from the late 50s.

1100
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,040
Anyways, my question that I had

1101
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,040
concern the process of Bill 39

1102
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,040
--

1103
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,040
>> I am sorry, sir, are you a

1104
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,040
resident of Pointe-Claire?

1105
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,040
>> Not anymore. Do

1106
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,040
>> You live in Pointe-Claire?

1107
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,040
>> No.

1108
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,040
>> I'm sorry, you will have to

1109
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,000
wait after we hear the other

1110
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
person on the list.

1111
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,000
>> You call me. Here I am.

1112
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
>> We did not know.

1113
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000
>> Carry on with your business.

1114
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
You answer my question anyway

1115
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000
with respect to the amendment.

1116
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
>> Mr. Hunter, we will get

1117
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
through them. We look at to you.

1118
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
I promise.

1119
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,000
>> I haven't got the time. The

1120
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,000
American election is far more

1121
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000
important.

1122
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,000
>> Chris Île?

1123
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
>> I'm not going to be exciting

1124
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,000
as him. Good evening. We are a

1125
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000
lot of residents who live in

1126
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
close proximity to the two

1127
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
roundabouts on Chester and we

1128
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
crossed him every day in

1129
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
vehicles, on foot, our kids on

1130
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,060
their bikes, so on and so forth.

1131
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:07,060
There was no construction done

1132
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:09,060
to change the, Z Jeffrey moved a

1133
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:10,060
stop sign and put yield signs

1134
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:13,060
but nothing really changed.

1135
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:15,060
There are multiple blind

1136
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:17,060
corners, hedges, homes, there's

1137
00:46:17,060 --> 00:46:19,060
also homes that face into the

1138
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:20,060
roundabout where people come in

1139
00:46:20,060 --> 00:46:22,060
and out of their driveways. You

1140
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:23,060
would like either to has taught

1141
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:25,060
signs reinstalled or have other

1142
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:27,060
safety measures met, typical

1143
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:29,060
roundabouts force people to slow

1144
00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:30,060
down as they enter the

1145
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:31,060
roundabout. These roundabouts

1146
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:34,060
are just square, they are square

1147
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:36,060
roundabouts which is stupid in

1148
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:38,060
and of itself but we would

1149
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:40,060
either like stop signs to be

1150
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:41,060
reinstalled or other safety

1151
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:43,060
measures to be taken because

1152
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:44,060
especially with the influx of

1153
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:47,060
people from Kubik, there are a

1154
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:48,060
couple hundred more cars coming

1155
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:49,060
through the neighbourhood, plus

1156
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:54,060
all the construction on des

1157
00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:56,060
sources roundabout, et cetera,

1158
00:46:56,060 --> 00:46:58,060
et cetera. What can we do to

1159
00:46:58,060 --> 00:46:59,060
install and make it much safer

1160
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:00,020
for the residents?

1161
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:02,020
>> That is a good question. They

1162
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:04,020
are borderline roundabouts, you

1163
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:05,020
would call them?

1164
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:06,020
>> They were square four way

1165
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:09,020
stop for 100 years and then they

1166
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:10,020
may yield signs but nobody

1167
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,020
yields. People just come into

1168
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:13,020
the roundabout full speed and at

1169
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:15,020
a typical roundabout, it curves

1170
00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:16,020
when you come into it and join

1171
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:18,020
the flow of traffic. Please do

1172
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:19,020
not. People especially coming

1173
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:21,020
north and south come at a full

1174
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:24,020
clip and also their homes and

1175
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:26,020
hedges that blind corners coming

1176
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:29,020
in. Sometimes you come into the

1177
00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:30,020
roundabout or the person coming

1178
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:32,020
into the roundabout should yield

1179
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:33,020
if there is already a car. That

1180
00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:35,020
does not happen. Cars in the

1181
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:36,020
roundabout stop, and then there

1182
00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:38,020
is some sort of confusion or you

1183
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:39,020
are driving through the

1184
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:41,020
roundabout. Somebody comes into

1185
00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:43,020
a blind corner, very dangerous

1186
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:45,020
and again there's lots of people

1187
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:46,020
just coming through the

1188
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:47,020
neighbourhood now from the

1189
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:49,020
developments that have gone up.

1190
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:50,020
It is a very dangerous

1191
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,020
situation. Some of the

1192
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:53,020
crosswalks or even blind so

1193
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:55,020
people crossing on bicycle with

1194
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:57,020
dog, so on and so forth so it's

1195
00:47:57,020 --> 00:47:58,020
definitely something that needs

1196
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:01,080
to be looked at. We have many --

1197
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,080
I know many individuals that

1198
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080
live at both roundabouts. It's

1199
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,080
definitely a -- if you sit there

1200
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,080
for 20 minutes, you are going to

1201
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,080
see a bunch of close calls.

1202
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Either a police presence. I

1203
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
think the stuff signs are the

1204
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,080
easiest measure because, quite

1205
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,080
frankly, to break all the cement

1206
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,080
and reconfigure everything would

1207
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,080
be a huge expense. I think the

1208
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,080
question really is what can we

1209
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,080
do to make them safer? Stop

1210
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,080
signs being the easiest fix but

1211
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080
anything at this point.

1212
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080
>> You are lucky because our

1213
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080
traffic guru is standing right

1214
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080
in front of you or our code

1215
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,080
traffic guru, mister Tanguay and

1216
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
he and I are taking note of

1217
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080
this. Absolutely we will look

1218
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,080
into it. The roundabout in

1219
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Pointe-Claire has been an issue

1220
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,080
as a little one on top of

1221
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,080
Drayton. The integration of the

1222
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,080
roundabout has been intriguing

1223
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,080
and people favourite but whether

1224
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080
we are used to them or adjusted

1225
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,040
or have learned how to use them

1226
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,040
as a society, as a city, is a

1227
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,040
good point. How we get beyond

1228
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
that is another issue. The stop

1229
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
signs -- there are laws as to

1230
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,040
where we can put stop signs and

1231
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,040
as I've learned in the last

1232
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,040
traffic Committee meeting we

1233
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,040
cannot just put out stop signs.

1234
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,040
There are actually rules. In the

1235
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,040
old days, we could put them up

1236
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,040
where we thought -- we cannot

1237
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,040
put them in front of my cats

1238
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,040
anymore. There has to be an

1239
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,040
intersection of roads.

1240
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,040
>> There is.

1241
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,040
>> All these rules for stop

1242
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,040
signs. If those rules do not

1243
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,040
prohibited, it can be looked

1244
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,040
into.

1245
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,040
>> Just from a cost analysis

1246
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,040
perspective because turning them

1247
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
into round about would be a huge

1248
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,040
undertaking and expense. If you

1249
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,040
go on Google maps, you can go

1250
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,040
back to 2011 and see where the

1251
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,040
start signs where and you go to

1252
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,040
2012 and it's just a yield sign

1253
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,040
with nothing off.

1254
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,040
>> The road has not changed?

1255
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,040
>> No. Should I follow up with

1256
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,040
you too.

1257
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,000
>> Sure. Duly noted. He is the

1258
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
man. It's an excellent

1259
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
committee. You have been heard.

1260
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
I promise. Thank you.

1261
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,000
>> Thank you.

1262
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,000
>> Can Lyon.

1263
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,000
>> Good evening. Back in May,

1264
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
council passed -- I do not know

1265
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
if it was a motion or whatever

1266
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
-- for the aquatic centre to

1267
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,000
have the -- to change rooms

1268
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000
fixed up and a sauna fix. When

1269
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000
the is going to happen? Nothing,

1270
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000
nothing has been done.

1271
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
>> That has been the bane of my

1272
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
existence. We cannot fix it

1273
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
until we do the overall

1274
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
construction project. It is

1275
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
lumped in. We cannot fix it and

1276
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
undo it again to renovate the

1277
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,000
rooms. It has to all be done in

1278
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,000
one shot. The timing of that is

1279
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,000
a good question. I think someone

1280
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,060
knows the answer.

1281
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,060
>> Unfortunately, for now, the

1282
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:09,060
project of the aquatic centre is

1283
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:11,060
not for next year so we will

1284
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:13,060
have to wait until we do not

1285
00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:17,060
know yet, another date, but we

1286
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:21,060
adopt the CIP in October, and

1287
00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:23,060
unfortunately for the budget, it

1288
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:25,060
would be tied to push back the

1289
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:26,060
project.

1290
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:27,060
>> Let me repeat that so I did

1291
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:29,060
not fully understand. You looks

1292
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:30,060
like you will have your plans

1293
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:33,060
ready now October, then sometime

1294
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:36,060
next year, the work will start.

1295
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:40,060
>> No, the plan -- with the

1296
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:43,060
adoption of the next CIP, we

1297
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:45,060
call the investment plan for the

1298
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:48,060
city for the next year, they

1299
00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:50,060
will decide to push that project

1300
00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:52,060
later on maybe in 2026.

1301
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:54,060
>> 2026?

1302
00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:57,060
>> It will not be done in 2025,

1303
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,060
unfortunately.

1304
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:01,020
>> It has been down since before

1305
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:06,020
COVID or since COVID. That is

1306
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:09,020
terrible. A very simple

1307
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:10,020
question, the second one is

1308
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:12,020
that, who is responsible for the

1309
00:52:12,020 --> 00:52:14,020
rams going on to the highways? I

1310
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:17,020
am thinking in particular the

1311
00:52:17,020 --> 00:52:19,020
ramp going west on 20 when you

1312
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:24,020
are coming down

1313
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:27,020
Saint Jean, another ridge going

1314
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:29,020
south on 20 was. There are

1315
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:31,020
potholes pretty wicked in spots

1316
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:32,020
and I do not know if it's a city

1317
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:36,020
or the Ministry of

1318
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:38,020
Transportation.

1319
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:42,020
>> It depends where the

1320
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:44,020
potholes. Some of them are from

1321
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:45,020
the City.

1322
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:47,020
>> It's on the ramp itself. It's

1323
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:49,020
not on the highway, it's on the

1324
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:54,020
ramp. As you come off the Saint

1325
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:56,020
Jean, you go down, there's one

1326
00:52:56,020 --> 00:52:58,020
before the curve and then as you

1327
00:52:58,020 --> 00:53:00,080
get to the second curve that

1328
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,080
whips out towards the highway,

1329
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,080
there is some on the edge which

1330
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,080
are quite substantial.

1331
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,080
>> I will look at it and let you

1332
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,080
know.

1333
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,080
>> Thank you.

1334
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,080
>> One of them has been

1335
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,080
repaired. The really bad one. I

1336
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,080
take that every day. One of them

1337
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,080
has been repaired, I do not know

1338
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,080
if that is when you are talking

1339
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,080
about.

1340
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
>> I noticed it this morning.

1341
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,080
>> Got you.

1342
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,080
>> When you noticed is still

1343
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,080
there.

1344
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Susan Weaver.

1345
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,080
>> Here is some information

1346
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,080
about the accident that you had

1347
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,080
had with the City lease car last

1348
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,080
April when you hit a deer up

1349
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,080
north. La date de la perte...

1350
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,080
d'un rapport... People six.

1351
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,080
April 7th. Total damaged, 38,000

1352
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,040
and someone sent and deductible

1353
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,040
5000. The vehicle was located

1354
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,040
I'm curious as to why the

1355
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,040
accident was only reported the

1356
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,040
following day. As you said at

1357
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040
the last council meeting, the

1358
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,040
car was insured but still one

1359
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,040
must pay deductible. The City

1360
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,040
has to pay the deductible 5000

1361
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,040
unless you are planning to take

1362
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,040
the responsibility for it. There

1363
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,040
are some added penalties but I

1364
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
must take the time to read the

1365
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,040
contract again, which you

1366
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,040
signed. Two things that you said

1367
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,040
at the October council meeting,

1368
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,040
which I found interesting.

1369
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,040
Number one, that you did not

1370
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040
want a car when taken into

1371
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,040
office. Myself, I could not

1372
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
really understand why it was

1373
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,040
necessary to give the mayor a

1374
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,040
car during their mandates but

1375
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,040
you are the mayor, you could've

1376
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,040
refused and asked for a

1377
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,040
resolution to be passed to not

1378
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,040
continue the practice. Number

1379
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,040
two, no stipulations as to how

1380
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,040
the City car was to be used. You

1381
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,000
did not know whether you can

1382
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
pick up groceries with the car.

1383
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Passing by the metro, in the

1384
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,000
plaza to pick up groceries on

1385
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
the home is reasonable but going

1386
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
up to St. had polite for

1387
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,000
groceries is not. If there was

1388
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
no stipulations when you receive

1389
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
the car as you said the last

1390
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
council meeting and then you

1391
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
concluded by saying it is as

1392
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
simple as that, I had a car, I

1393
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
no longer have a car. I had a

1394
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
city credit card, I no longer

1395
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
have one and I follow the rules.

1396
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000
What were all the rules that you

1397
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,000
followed?

1398
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
>> There were not any. Is that

1399
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
your question? The following day

1400
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
I have no idea why that was

1401
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,000
reported the following day. It

1402
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
was in the morning. I should've

1403
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,000
been the following day. It

1404
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000
happened 8:00 a.m. in the

1405
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,000
morning. 44 minutes from

1406
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Pointe-Claire was where the

1407
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,060
accident happened. I did not --

1408
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:04,060
I was told I insisted on having

1409
00:56:04,060 --> 00:56:09,060
a car. I had a good car. This is

1410
00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:10,060
a park that comes with being the

1411
00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:11,060
mayor of Pointe-Claire and you

1412
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:14,060
have to have a car. I took the

1413
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:17,060
car. I asked if I could return

1414
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:20,060
it and not have a car. If

1415
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:22,060
there's any removed ration that

1416
00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:24,060
I can get but I was told I would

1417
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:26,060
have to have the car. There were

1418
00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:28,060
no rules, no specifications, no

1419
00:56:28,060 --> 00:56:30,060
rules whatsoever as to how to

1420
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:31,060
use the car. And never signed

1421
00:56:31,060 --> 00:56:33,060
any contract. I was just given a

1422
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:37,060
car in that is the way it

1423
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:38,060
occurred.

1424
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:39,060
>> You did not sign a contract?

1425
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:43,060
>> No, I did not. No.

1426
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:45,060
>> Your name was on it.

1427
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:46,060
>> No.

1428
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,060
>> My second question was, who

1429
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:50,060
did you notify when you hit the

1430
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:51,060
deer?

1431
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:54,060
>> I did not notify anybody.

1432
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:57,060
They got on it quickly. The

1433
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:58,060
transport, the people that drive

1434
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:01,020
the roads called the police.

1435
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:02,020
Somebody from Québec, the Québec

1436
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:03,020
government, provincial

1437
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:05,020
government was on the road, saw

1438
00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:08,020
me and came over or might have

1439
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:09,020
seen the accident and then

1440
00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:12,020
called the police and the police

1441
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:13,020
came and they were great. They

1442
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:16,020
were with me for probably 5 to

1443
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:18,020
10 minutes and a tow truck was

1444
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:20,020
there five minutes later and

1445
00:57:20,020 --> 00:57:23,020
then I called my son to pick me

1446
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:24,020
up and they were checking to

1447
00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:25,020
make sure I was not in any too

1448
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:27,020
much shop because I wasn't a bit

1449
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:28,020
of shop.

1450
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:29,020
>> I imagine so.

1451
00:57:29,020 --> 00:57:32,020
>> I did survive. I was kind of

1452
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:34,020
pleased about that. Adding that,

1453
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:37,020
I cannot tell you much more.

1454
00:57:55,020 --> 00:58:00,080
>> Hi. The residual presented by

1455
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,080
Eric Stork this evening, the

1456
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,080
City Council needs to know of

1457
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,080
the provincial legislation. He

1458
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,080
would have a big impact on our

1459
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,080
City. It is my understanding

1460
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,080
that steps have already been

1461
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,080
taken. I think our lawyer is

1462
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,080
going to have gone to some

1463
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,080
information meetings and so

1464
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,080
forth to inform City Council

1465
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,080
about the new legislation it

1466
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,080
would be quite shocking to find

1467
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080
out that this was not already in

1468
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,080
progress. Otherwise, as well,

1469
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
this legislation essentially

1470
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
says that when green space lots

1471
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,080
are re-zoned as green space, the

1472
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,080
developer cannot claim for lost

1473
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,080
future profits. Excuse me, I got

1474
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,080
a bit of a cold. Only for what

1475
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
they paid for the land. Cadillac

1476
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080
Fairview recently sold off a

1477
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,080
step of the fourth of the REM to

1478
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,080
allow the expansion of Fairview

1479
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,080
Avenue, with the City should be

1480
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,080
doing is immediately zoning all

1481
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,080
of the force including this

1482
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,080
strip as green space. Let the

1483
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,080
Ram expropriate part of the

1484
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,080
parking lot for the road

1485
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,040
expansion instead of the forests

1486
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,040
parts of the strip. As to paying

1487
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,040
for market value, study for the

1488
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,040
MU2 first, rezone it. Right now

1489
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,040
it's value is greatly inflated

1490
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,040
bites no rose owning. Right now,

1491
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,040
both MU1 and MU2, have no zones.

1492
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,040
No height restrictions, not a

1493
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,040
lot coverage, no restrictions of

1494
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,040
types of commercials are special

1495
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,040
product, not even minimum

1496
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,040
setbacks. This is what Cadillac

1497
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,040
Fairview is fighting for the

1498
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040
hold on to. Pointe-Claire now

1499
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,040
has an opportunity to maintain

1500
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,040
the freeze, as citizens what

1501
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,040
they want on both MU1 and MU2

1502
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
and rezoned them according to

1503
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,040
what we want, not the zones but

1504
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,040
virtually no rules as exist

1505
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:50,040
today.

1506
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,040
After resolution 2023 040, and

1507
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,040
our city manager tried to reach

1508
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,000
out with negotiations with

1509
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Cadillac Fairview refused

1510
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,000
outright. Luckily for us, now we

1511
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,000
can make some zoning rules with

1512
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,000
teeth and negotiate holding on

1513
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,000
to at least a few winning cards

1514
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,000
instead of the empty hands we

1515
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,000
have now. Like to know that the

1516
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000
City would start the process of

1517
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,000
the zoning. Including the space

1518
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,000
by the REM. And re-table you're

1519
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,000
resolution to allow citizen

1520
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
consultation sessions about both

1521
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,000
Fairview forest and the maximum

1522
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,000
height of buildings on MU1. This

1523
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
is because the resolution passed

1524
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,000
by Eric Stork puts citizen

1525
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,000
consultations not to formulate

1526
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000
our planning program but some

1527
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,000
sort of nebulous idea to next

1528
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,000
February. We need them soon and

1529
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,000
before the Planning Program is

1530
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,000
actually formalized and paid. I

1531
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,060
think we need citizen

1532
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:02,060
consultations but most

1533
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:04,060
importantly why don't we just

1534
01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:07,060
zone the forest green. We can do

1535
01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:09,060
it. It's within power of the

1536
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:10,060
City to do it and then we would

1537
01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:14,060
have somebody to negotiate from

1538
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:18,060
as well. We have got to get the

1539
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:19,060
MU1 with some zoning

1540
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:21,060
regulations. It is incredible to

1541
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,060
me that this huge piece in our

1542
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:26,060
city has just virtually no

1543
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:29,060
zoning regulations. I mean, it's

1544
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:31,060
a free-for-all. How did this

1545
01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:34,060
happen? It's amazing. I would

1546
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:36,060
like to know, would you try to

1547
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:39,060
start the process soon to zone

1548
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:41,060
the land green or we can go

1549
01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:42,060
against a resolution tonight as

1550
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:43,060
well?

1551
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:46,060
>> We can start that tonight

1552
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:47,060
actually because the resolution

1553
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:52,060
has changed dramatically. You

1554
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:54,060
are probably referring to you

1555
01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:56,060
may have seen a different

1556
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:57,060
version of it.

1557
01:01:57,060 --> 01:01:59,060
>> Yes, but it does not include

1558
01:01:59,060 --> 01:02:01,020
immediately rezoning the line

1559
01:02:01,020 --> 01:02:03,020
green. All this process of

1560
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:04,020
finding information about

1561
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:05,020
funding and about prices and

1562
01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:07,020
about laws but we already know

1563
01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:09,020
we can do this. It's quite clear

1564
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:11,020
that we can do this. Why not to

1565
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:13,020
it first? What is going to

1566
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:15,020
happen is Fairview is going to

1567
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:19,020
-- the strip sold to the REM,

1568
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:20,020
the trees will be gone. That

1569
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:24,020
will be lost. They are trying to

1570
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:27,020
sell off that they do not want

1571
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:31,020
bit by bit.

1572
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:32,020
>> The issue for us, we came to

1573
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:35,020
this tonight, is we are in the

1574
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:37,020
process and our staff was on

1575
01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:39,020
this. They have already been

1576
01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:41,020
well ahead of the game on Bill

1577
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:43,020
39. We are going to get -- I

1578
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:44,020
agree with you -- we absolutely

1579
01:02:44,020 --> 01:02:45,020
have to understand the

1580
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:48,020
implications and the powers that

1581
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:50,020
are accorded to us legally with

1582
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:52,020
that law. We have to do it

1583
01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:54,020
properly so there are no

1584
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:56,020
repercussions. We are looking to

1585
01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:58,020
that effect as we speak. The

1586
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:00,080
resolution that you read it's

1587
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,080
hopefully taken into account. It

1588
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,080
emphasizes the resolution

1589
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,080
emphasized still 39 and what it

1590
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,080
allows us to do. From what I

1591
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,080
sense, today and in the ridge

1592
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,080
version of that resolution,

1593
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,080
there is a possibility of doing

1594
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,080
exactly that. Whether it happens

1595
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,080
or not, that is all other thing.

1596
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,080
There is a possibility.

1597
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,080
>> If we let the forest be with

1598
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,080
it's not-so-green space for at

1599
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,080
least for five months, what is

1600
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,080
going to be left of it?

1601
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,080
>> Hopefully it will be okay in

1602
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,080
for five months. Who knows.

1603
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,080
>> Can anyone stop the REM?

1604
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,080
>> The REM is a whole different

1605
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,080
creature.

1606
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,080
>> It can expropriate the

1607
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,080
parking lot. Why take the side

1608
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,080
of Fairview, which is a

1609
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,080
beautiful force. Why not take

1610
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,080
the side that is the parking

1611
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,080
lot?

1612
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,080
>> You have to ask them on that,

1613
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,080
I agree with you and yours and I

1614
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,080
do not know why that did not

1615
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,080
happen on the outset. I am

1616
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,080
perplexed as a mayor. I do not

1617
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,080
know why the buses were moved,

1618
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,040
why they should have stayed in

1619
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,040
the Fairview space. I do not

1620
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,040
know why that was moved. This

1621
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,040
was all done prior.

1622
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,040
>> We do not know if it was done

1623
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,040
in secret behind closed doors.

1624
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,040
>> Excuse me?

1625
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,040
>> Are we having an exchange?

1626
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040
>> I am answering your question.

1627
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,040
We will stick to maybe two

1628
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,040
questions here. I will answer --

1629
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,040
you are right I have answered

1630
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,040
the first one. The second one,

1631
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,040
zoning it. We are hopefully

1632
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,040
working towards that. How to do

1633
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,040
so legally and safely, that is a

1634
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,040
question number one. What is

1635
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,040
question number two? I

1636
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,040
remembered it a second ago.

1637
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,040
>> If you will reinstate your

1638
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
resolution to give us

1639
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,040
consultations. Not some nebulous

1640
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,040
some sort of consultation next

1641
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,040
February.

1642
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,040
>> I am concerned about the

1643
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,040
consultations but it is

1644
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,040
specified in the resolution that

1645
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,040
there will be but as I said

1646
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,040
earlier, I am sincerely

1647
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,000
concerned about how solid that

1648
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
will be moving forward. I agree

1649
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,000
with you, I share your concerns

1650
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,000
with that. I thought my

1651
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,000
resolution was simply for

1652
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
consultation. That is all it was

1653
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,000
for. That is all I wanted to be.

1654
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,000
I do not think we should be

1655
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000
altering or changing the City or

1656
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,000
doing any major urban planning

1657
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,000
decisions in the city until we

1658
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000
have public consultation. I have

1659
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,000
not seen enough of it and we

1660
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,000
have not got enough information

1661
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,000
from it to move forward. As a

1662
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Democrat, I concur then I feel

1663
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,000
public consultation should be a

1664
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,000
priority, it should happen

1665
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
sooner as opposed to later.

1666
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,000
Beyond that, I cannot tell you

1667
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,000
much more than that. We are

1668
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,000
moving towards it. It's a stated

1669
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,000
goal in the resolution. There is

1670
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,000
no timeline on it but who knows.

1671
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,000
That is the best I can answer.

1672
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,000
>> Thank you.

1673
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,000
>> Thank you.

1674
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
>> Mayor, I like to point

1675
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,060
something out. Maybe there might

1676
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:02,060
be some misunderstanding about

1677
01:06:02,060 --> 01:06:04,060
the City has no power over the

1678
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:05,060
REM. Once the provincial

1679
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:07,060
government passed legislation to

1680
01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:09,060
enable the REM track to be built

1681
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:12,060
wherever the -- excuse me, I am

1682
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:14,060
talking. I am talking. Wherever

1683
01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:18,060
the builders shows, they did not

1684
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:20,060
the law allow them to do this

1685
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:21,060
without any public

1686
01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:22,060
consultations, without any

1687
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,060
permission from the City. They

1688
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:26,060
purchased the land at the

1689
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:28,060
Fairview forest for their use

1690
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:31,060
and the city has no say over

1691
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:32,060
that.

1692
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:35,060
>> I already understood all of

1693
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:39,060
that.

1694
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:41,060
>> Kathy?

1695
01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:52,060
>> Good evening. I will start by

1696
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:54,060
mentioning a few details about

1697
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:57,060
our little street. It is called

1698
01:06:57,060 --> 01:07:00,020
chestnut avenue. It's called an

1699
01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:01,020
avenue but what we are talking

1700
01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:05,020
about here is essentially one

1701
01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:07,020
block. On that block, there are

1702
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:12,020
approximately 18 houses. In

1703
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:18,020
2008, the water and road

1704
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:21,020
renovation was done on Heather

1705
01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:23,020
Avenue. At that time, in 2008,

1706
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:25,020
our street was supposed to have

1707
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:28,020
been completed in the next

1708
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:30,020
five-year plan. That would have

1709
01:07:30,020 --> 01:07:33,020
brought us to 2013 when our

1710
01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:34,020
start -- streak would have been

1711
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:37,020
finished. That did not occur and

1712
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:39,020
then more recently we were

1713
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:40,020
supposed to be part of a

1714
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:43,020
three-year plan whereby Oak

1715
01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:45,020
Ridge would be done and then

1716
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:47,020
Sunday all would be done and

1717
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:49,020
then chestnut would be done. At

1718
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:52,020
the time, the workers on those

1719
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:53,020
street said that the were street

1720
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:57,020
was actually our little block.

1721
01:07:57,020 --> 01:08:00,080
We were waiting patiently.

1722
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,080
Despite a street that has been

1723
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,080
full of problems. For instance,

1724
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,080
we are a street with four open

1725
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,080
ditches. We have four open

1726
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,080
ditches in one block. We have

1727
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,080
about a dozen children out on

1728
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,080
the street because things have

1729
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,080
changed, older people have sold,

1730
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,080
younger people are moving in,

1731
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,080
there are some babies, they are

1732
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,080
kitty cats. Now sunny Dale does

1733
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,080
not have stopped signed, we have

1734
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,080
stop signs at both ends of our

1735
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,080
blocks. Now what is happening in

1736
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,080
multiple residents are

1737
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,080
mentioning, everybody has been

1738
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,080
seeing big vehicles and buses

1739
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,080
using our street. I guess

1740
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,080
because the other one looks more

1741
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,080
residential because it does not

1742
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,080
have stopped signs so they stop

1743
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,080
and then they step on the gas

1744
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,080
and anyway. We are being used by

1745
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,080
multiple vehicles and school

1746
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,080
buses are one that everyone

1747
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,080
keeps mentioning. We have a road

1748
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040
that looks like a patchwork

1749
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,040
quilt from all of the digging

1750
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,040
every winter and all the

1751
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,040
breakages of the underground

1752
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,040
pipe system. We also have a lot

1753
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,040
of puddles of water every time

1754
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,040
it rains. This one normally

1755
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,040
would be too much of a problem,

1756
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,040
the kids would love it, but we

1757
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,040
do have in that one block, some

1758
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,040
very compromised individuals

1759
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,040
vis-à-vis visual, visual acuity

1760
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,040
and they are not driving cars.

1761
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,040
They are only walking. When they

1762
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,040
walk and they cannot see and the

1763
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,040
place is full of puddles, it is

1764
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,040
pretty bad. Now there are cracks

1765
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,040
everywhere. You cannot move

1766
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,040
without being on a crack.

1767
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,040
There's one big one growing

1768
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,040
grass. We have lived with this a

1769
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
long time and recently we were

1770
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,040
under the impression that in

1771
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,040
spring of 2025, our road would

1772
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:04,000
be done. We have had conflicting

1773
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,000
information, several residents

1774
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,000
have contacted the engineering

1775
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,000
department and have been told

1776
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,000
that they are not the ones that

1777
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,000
changed the plans. Then, as

1778
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,000
terror knows, I contacted her

1779
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,000
and I told her what we had been

1780
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,000
told that it was the councillors

1781
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,000
here that changed the plan. We

1782
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,000
do not care about who changed

1783
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,000
the plan, what I am here for is

1784
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000
we have made a little petition,

1785
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000
we are not very many on the

1786
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000
street. It reads, we the

1787
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,000
taxpayers and residents of

1788
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Chestnut Avenue, hereby petition

1789
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
the councillors to commence and

1790
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,000
complete the necessary watering

1791
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
road renovations for our

1792
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
streets, for spring of 2025,

1793
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,000
without further delay. Chestnut

1794
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,000
avenue is the only street in our

1795
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,000
neighbourhood that has recently

1796
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,000
had neither water nor row

1797
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,000
renovation, never mind the

1798
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000
connecting street and every

1799
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,060
street in our neighbourhood has

1800
01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:05,060
been completed. We are extremely

1801
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:07,060
disappointed. I have lived in

1802
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:11,060
Pointe-Claire since 1972. This

1803
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:14,060
is my third address because we

1804
01:11:14,060 --> 01:11:15,060
bought a semi detached, and when

1805
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:18,060
the family grew, we bought a big

1806
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:19,060
two storey. With my off rioters

1807
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:21,060
and joint replacements, et

1808
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:22,060
cetera, et cetera, we went into

1809
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:25,060
this nice bungalow on chestnut.

1810
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:27,060
It is a great street to live on

1811
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:30,060
except we do have a lot of

1812
01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:32,060
issues in the summer when

1813
01:11:32,060 --> 01:11:34,060
baseball is on, our little block

1814
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,060
is parked up on both sides with

1815
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:38,060
many peoples wheels resting on

1816
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:41,060
our grass. We have a variety of

1817
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:43,060
issues with the street. We do

1818
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:46,060
not have curves and we have a

1819
01:11:46,060 --> 01:11:49,060
lot of cracks so my question is,

1820
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:52,060
will the Councillors please,

1821
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:54,060
please on behalf of my residents

1822
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,060
on my street and I had four of

1823
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:59,060
them here, one had to leave, I

1824
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:02,020
still have three residents here.

1825
01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:04,020
Not just myself but I'm not the

1826
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:06,020
only one getting older. I have

1827
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:08,020
had three joint replacements. I

1828
01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:12,020
fear walking on my own street. I

1829
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:14,020
fear it because it is too easy

1830
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:18,020
to trip. I will go for a small

1831
01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:20,020
walk and make sure I have my

1832
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:22,020
cane with the four-foot and

1833
01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:24,020
things like that but you never

1834
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,020
know when somebody is going to

1835
01:12:26,020 --> 01:12:28,020
really get injured on our

1836
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:31,020
street. As I say, there are more

1837
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:32,020
children. Some of the people

1838
01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:34,020
driving using our street is a

1839
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:37,020
short cut to get over to the

1840
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:38,020
hospital. They are stepping on

1841
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:41,020
the gas. One of our residence is

1842
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:45,020
not here but I was outside and

1843
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:48,020
saw what happened one day and

1844
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:50,020
she had a confrontation with the

1845
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:55,020
driver. Myself, I was told to F

1846
01:12:57,020 --> 01:12:59,020
you nowhere. But I stop for the

1847
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:01,080
stop sign, I informed, we have

1848
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,080
children here, we have pets

1849
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,080
here. People are on the road and

1850
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,080
the road looks narrow.

1851
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:10,080
>> Can I ask you to sort of in a

1852
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,080
question for ask what you ask of

1853
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,080
us because we are not the

1854
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,080
police. What is you -- what you

1855
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,080
are talking about is something

1856
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,080
we cannot regulate. We cannot

1857
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:23,080
control speeding. That is all

1858
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,080
police but the driver's

1859
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,080
behaviour, that kind of thing,

1860
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,080
we cannot do. Is there anything

1861
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,080
specific that you think the city

1862
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,080
can do for Chestnut?

1863
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,080
>> I think the renovation needs

1864
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,080
to be done because a couple of

1865
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,080
us have had to start filtering

1866
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,080
our water because a metallic

1867
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,080
takes. We do not know if the

1868
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,080
water pipes bringing water into

1869
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,080
our homes for us to use every

1870
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,080
day whether we are drinking

1871
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,080
water with any residue from

1872
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
these old pipes that are from

1873
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:56,080
the 19 50s. We are just asking.

1874
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,080
>> I would hope engineering

1875
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,040
would have that under control. I

1876
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,040
suspect you are not but are you

1877
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:06,040
on the list? Are you on the

1878
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,040
list? I cannot go into the

1879
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,040
audience. It's only the person

1880
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:14,040
at the microphone. No worries.

1881
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,040
All I can tell you is that I

1882
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,040
doubt very much that Council

1883
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,040
overruled or banished your

1884
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,040
street repaving. My time with

1885
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,040
this council, we have not spoken

1886
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,040
about prioritizing streets. It's

1887
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,040
generally done by public works

1888
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,040
and it's done by a professional

1889
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,040
process in according to need and

1890
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,040
there's a lot of streets Denis

1891
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,040
doing. I hear you.

1892
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,040
>> We've had a need for years.

1893
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,040
>> There are others who have

1894
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,040
had. And I heard them as well. I

1895
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,040
can only say that I trust in my

1896
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,040
professionals and they make the

1897
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:56,040
decisions in the -- it's not a

1898
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,040
political -- hang on, it's not a

1899
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
political thing. You do not

1900
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,000
lobby and say that will get done

1901
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,000
and it's not what we do. Excuse

1902
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,000
me, I'm surprised at that and I

1903
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
would like the engineering to

1904
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,000
say which ones and how that

1905
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,000
happened because I never saw

1906
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,000
that.

1907
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,000
>> Can I comment? It's not that

1908
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,000
the councillors decide which

1909
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,000
streets are being done or not

1910
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000
done. It's that when our team

1911
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,000
comes to us with all of the

1912
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,000
directors and the executive team

1913
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,000
comes to us to work on the

1914
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,000
budget and the capital

1915
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,000
investment plan, they present us

1916
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,000
with the information with the

1917
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000
budgets that are required and

1918
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,000
the projects that are more

1919
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,000
urgent. And with the financial

1920
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,000
status of the city. And

1921
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,000
unfortunately this year, as I

1922
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,000
explained, the Council have to

1923
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,000
make a decision based on the

1924
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000
advice of our professionals that

1925
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,060
work at the City to push not

1926
01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:03,060
just Chestnut but all street

1927
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:05,060
projects. If you do a capital

1928
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:07,060
investment plan, you will see

1929
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:09,060
that there is not any streets

1930
01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:11,060
being done unless they are being

1931
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:12,060
done conjointly with another

1932
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:15,060
city in which we are obliged to

1933
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:17,060
participate. We had financial

1934
01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:20,060
constraints that forced us to

1935
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:22,060
push to cut the budget and push

1936
01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:24,060
many projects down the pipe. It

1937
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:25,060
doesn't mean that it's not going

1938
01:16:25,060 --> 01:16:27,060
to happen. It just means that

1939
01:16:27,060 --> 01:16:28,060
unfortunately, we weren't in the

1940
01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:30,060
financial position to make it

1941
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:33,060
happen this year. Or this

1942
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:35,060
upcoming year. When they say

1943
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:38,060
that Council made that decision,

1944
01:16:38,060 --> 01:16:39,060
yes, we have the final say and

1945
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:40,060
we do vote on the capital

1946
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:42,060
investment plan, but it is based

1947
01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:45,060
on the advice that's given to us

1948
01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:46,060
from our team and our

1949
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,060
professionals who do their job

1950
01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:52,060
very well and who make a lot of

1951
01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:53,060
sacrifices in their own

1952
01:16:53,060 --> 01:16:55,060
departments and who weigh in and

1953
01:16:55,060 --> 01:16:57,060
measure every suggestion they

1954
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:59,060
give us and the suggestion was

1955
01:16:59,060 --> 01:17:01,020
that we had to make $20 million

1956
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:05,020
in cuts, I believe. $20 million

1957
01:17:05,020 --> 01:17:08,020
in cuts in the budget. More or

1958
01:17:08,020 --> 01:17:11,020
less of budgets we had

1959
01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:12,020
anticipated. So we've had to

1960
01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:14,020
push those projects,

1961
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:15,020
unfortunately, in order to have

1962
01:17:15,020 --> 01:17:19,020
a healthy bottom line. Yes,

1963
01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:21,020
engineering may say we made that

1964
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:22,020
decision because we put our

1965
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:24,020
final stamp on it, but we have

1966
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:26,020
no say in which streets are

1967
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:28,020
being done or not done. They are

1968
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:30,020
presented to us as the most

1969
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:31,020
important streets. They are

1970
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:33,020
ranked importance not just on

1971
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:34,020
the asphalt but also on the

1972
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,020
conditions of the pipes, the

1973
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:38,020
number of water main breaks, the

1974
01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:40,020
discolouration of water,, et

1975
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:42,020
cetera. There is the sewage

1976
01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:43,020
system that gets involved as

1977
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:44,020
well. A project like this is

1978
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:48,020
maybe five or $6 million. And

1979
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:49,020
so, we had to make decisions

1980
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:51,020
this year where a lot of

1981
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:53,020
projects got unfortunately

1982
01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:55,020
pushed a little bit down the

1983
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:57,020
pipe, so to speak, just because

1984
01:17:57,020 --> 01:18:00,080
of the financial constraints.

1985
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,080
>> The street has been getting

1986
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,080
pushed since 2008. So, I mean,

1987
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,080
there is a lot of priorities and

1988
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,080
you are doing a lot of good

1989
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,080
work. We can see from all the

1990
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,080
projects that are going on in

1991
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,080
Pointe-Claire, and they are all

1992
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,080
very worthy, it's just that we

1993
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,080
are only one block along. And

1994
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,080
some people have told me their

1995
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,080
water has been Braun for weeks.

1996
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,080
It's not right now, but they've

1997
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,080
experienced having dirty water

1998
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,080
for weeks.

1999
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,080
>> That's duly noted. Let the

2000
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,080
authorities know and send an

2001
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,080
email. Let the authorities know

2002
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,080
and the professionals will go in

2003
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,080
and will respond as to whether

2004
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,080
there is a problem with the

2005
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,080
water. It's not us. This is a

2006
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,080
professional science. Water is

2007
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,080
not Council.

2008
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,080
>> So, we would send our

2009
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,080
information

2010
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,080
(applause)

2011
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,080
>> To public works.

2012
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,040
>> Well, public works --.

2013
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,040
>> I've got to let some others

2014
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,040
speak. Thank you.

2015
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,040
>> Can I just add, the project

2016
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,040
is not cancelled. We are not

2017
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,040
cancelling doing our roadwork.

2018
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,040
We would just -- we were not

2019
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,040
able to complete certain

2020
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,040
projects in the timeline we

2021
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,040
would like. Please be reassured

2022
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,040
that the street has not fallen

2023
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,040
off our radar. It is certainly

2024
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,040
still on our radar and

2025
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,040
engineering is keeping track of

2026
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,040
the needs of the different roads

2027
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
in order to present us next year

2028
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,040
with a new capital investment

2029
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,040
plan.

2030
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:37,040
>> Keith Kelly?

2031
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:42,040
>> One of our --.

2032
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,040
>> Evening, Council. My name is

2033
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,040
Keith Kelly. You don't know, you

2034
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,040
know of me. I've been a lifetime

2035
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,040
resident of Pointe-Claire and

2036
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,040
I've paid my taxes for 60 years.

2037
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,000
You will now guess my age. I

2038
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,000
came here tonight basically to

2039
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,000
thank the Council for the work

2040
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,000
they have done over a number of

2041
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,000
years. The last two or three

2042
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000
years or more, I've probably

2043
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
given consideration in the past,

2044
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,000
but if you've done a great job

2045
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,000
with us councillors or me and

2046
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,000
the rest of the citizens. And I

2047
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,000
think you have done so

2048
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,000
particularly recently under very

2049
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,000
unique and unusual

2050
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,000
circumstances. Now, when I say

2051
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,000
that,

2052
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,000
.

2053
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,000
And what's happening at our

2054
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,000
recent council meetings. The

2055
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,000
last two and a half years have

2056
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,060
been a disaster. As far as I'm

2057
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:03,060
concerned. It is unfortunate but

2058
01:21:03,060 --> 01:21:07,060
it is the way it has been. And I

2059
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:09,060
find that the icing on the cake

2060
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:14,060
for me was what happened on

2061
01:21:14,060 --> 01:21:17,060
October 15th, when the Mayor

2062
01:21:17,060 --> 01:21:19,060
declared that he was going to

2063
01:21:19,060 --> 01:21:21,060
have a special meeting on an

2064
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,060
issue close to him. Something he

2065
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:26,060
was so very supportive of, which

2066
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:30,060
partly is the Fairview forest,

2067
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:32,060
which I would personally like to

2068
01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:33,060
see, and I know there is a lady

2069
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:36,060
here, Genevieve, who would also,

2070
01:21:36,060 --> 01:21:38,060
who has done a of a good job

2071
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:41,060
personally and professionally to

2072
01:21:41,060 --> 01:21:44,060
work on the cause and problems.

2073
01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:47,060
Now, when I talk about

2074
01:21:47,060 --> 01:21:49,060
disappointment, the Council, the

2075
01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:52,060
vote the other night was the

2076
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:54,060
15th one, the resolution, the

2077
01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:56,060
vote showed very, very clearly 7

2078
01:21:56,060 --> 01:22:01,020
to 1 of councils -- councillors

2079
01:22:01,020 --> 01:22:02,020
voted against the mayor's

2080
01:22:02,020 --> 01:22:03,020
proposed proposals. That tells

2081
01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:06,020
me something.

2082
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:09,020
>> And Councillor Tremblay

2083
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,020
support.

2084
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:12,020
>> Yes. He did support. And I

2085
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:14,020
would say I will also say

2086
01:22:14,020 --> 01:22:16,020
something else, I think he is

2087
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:18,020
very professional in the way he

2088
01:22:18,020 --> 01:22:20,020
talks and behaves here at

2089
01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:21,020
Council. He has his views,

2090
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:26,020
that's fine. And now, the other

2091
01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:28,020
things I would like to talk

2092
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:29,020
about --

2093
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:30,020
>> Mr. Kelly, are you talking or

2094
01:22:30,020 --> 01:22:31,020
are you asking a question?

2095
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:34,020
>> I will ask you two questions.

2096
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:37,020
>> Okay, okay. That's one

2097
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:38,020
preamble. Do you have a second

2098
01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:40,020
preamble? Usually, there's a

2099
01:22:40,020 --> 01:22:42,020
preamble and a question, Mr.

2100
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:43,020
Kelly. There is a preamble and a

2101
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:45,020
question and the preamble --

2102
01:22:45,020 --> 01:22:47,020
>> My preamble is not finished.

2103
01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:49,020
I will ask my question after. As

2104
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:50,020
far as I'm concerned, some of

2105
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:53,020
the things that bothers me most

2106
01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:55,020
is seeing what happens here at

2107
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:57,020
Council. Is that I have never,

2108
01:22:57,020 --> 01:23:00,080
in all the years I have come to

2109
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,080
Council, see the mayor standing

2110
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,080
up and voting against something

2111
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,080
totally against the rest of the

2112
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,080
group. That is something I have

2113
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,080
never seen. It's my

2114
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,080
understanding, rightly or

2115
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,080
wrongly, that the Mayor votes

2116
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,080
when there is a tie. Otherwise,

2117
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,080
he doesn't vote. I may be wrong.

2118
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,080
That's my understanding over the

2119
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,080
years and it's the first time

2120
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,080
I've ever seen the mayor of

2121
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,080
Pointe-Claire either vote for or

2122
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,080
against something totally

2123
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:31,080
against the councillors. The

2124
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,080
other thing that bothers me the

2125
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,080
most is you've never had a

2126
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,080
situation at these Council

2127
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,080
meetings where the mayor makes a

2128
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,080
statement or something and one

2129
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,080
of the councillors, two, three

2130
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,080
or four of you have done it over

2131
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,080
the past little while and have

2132
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,080
had to call a point of order and

2133
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,080
correct you on something. And

2134
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,080
that is totally unusual. Very

2135
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,080
unusual. Something like that

2136
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,040
should be taking place back

2137
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,040
there, in the back room. Which

2138
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,040
is where it's been done for the

2139
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,040
last 30 or 40 years, that I know

2140
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,040
about. Not here on the floor.

2141
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,040
You shouldn't have to do that.

2142
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,040
The other thing is that --

2143
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,040
excuse me.

2144
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,040
>> Mr. Kelly, you will just list

2145
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,040
the grievances or ask a

2146
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,040
question? How long does the list

2147
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,040
go?

2148
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,040
>> No, I have to tell you what

2149
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,040
I'm thinking.

2150
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,040
>> No, no, Mr. Kelly --

2151
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,040
>> I have for five answers

2152
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,040
already.

2153
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,040
>> I have to say that the

2154
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,040
Council does a great job. Use it

2155
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,040
here as the mayor and saying

2156
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:44,040
Pointe-Claire is working great.

2157
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,040
Everything is great.

2158
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,040
Pointe-Claire is the best city

2159
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,040
in the West Island and it has

2160
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,040
been and I hope to keep it that

2161
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,040
way. But you have to have a

2162
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,040
Council that does the work and

2163
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,040
can work together and have a

2164
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,040
mayor who supposedly is managing

2165
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,000
and supporting. But it's not

2166
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,000
evident to me that you are doing

2167
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:07,000
that. Maybe that's the problem.

2168
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,000
I would believe that if there is

2169
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,000
a problem, it's an assumption,

2170
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:16,000
but if there is a problem that

2171
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,000
Councillor has or a councillor

2172
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
group are having with you as a

2173
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,000
mayor, I have to assume, rightly

2174
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,000
or wrongly, that the

2175
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,000
administration must be having

2176
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,000
similar problems. That's

2177
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:31,000
unfortunate. I think the things

2178
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,000
-- in Pointe-Claire,

2179
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,000
Pointe-Claire has to do a lot of

2180
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,000
things that I don't like. I wish

2181
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,000
I could go back to the days when

2182
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,000
I was born here. And that's just

2183
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,000
not realistic. Unfortunately,

2184
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,000
things happen and we are

2185
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,000
building big buildings. I don't

2186
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
think the condos. You don't eat

2187
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000
them either. But that's the way

2188
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,000
it is. The provincial, the

2189
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,000
federal, the local, Montréal,

2190
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,000
they are saying that's what

2191
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,000
we've got to do and we are doing

2192
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,060
it. Finally, as far as I am

2193
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:03,060
concerned, I think myself, we

2194
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:06,060
would be better as a mayor to

2195
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:08,060
spend a little more time around

2196
01:26:08,060 --> 01:26:12,060
the office here rather than out

2197
01:26:12,060 --> 01:26:17,060
at all the gatherings to get

2198
01:26:17,060 --> 01:26:18,060
yourself, take pictures and post

2199
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:21,060
them on Facebook. I, mean I get

2200
01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:23,060
a little tired of looking at

2201
01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:25,060
your Facebook. There is Tim

2202
01:26:25,060 --> 01:26:27,060
Thomas with his camera taking a

2203
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:29,060
picture of himself.

2204
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:32,060
>> Mr. Kelly --

2205
01:26:32,060 --> 01:26:34,060
>> Excuse, me folks. I concur. I

2206
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:36,060
would like to get a question.

2207
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:37,060
Mr. Kelly, there are other

2208
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:38,060
people on the list that would

2209
01:26:38,060 --> 01:26:42,060
like to ask questions. Can I

2210
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:43,060
answer all out? I have like five

2211
01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:45,060
or six. I'm running out of

2212
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:47,060
responses. I'm running out of

2213
01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:49,060
paper. Because so many incorrect

2214
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:50,060
accusations have been thrown out

2215
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:51,060
that I have to correct. I'm

2216
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:53,060
running out of paper to write

2217
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:54,060
on. I want to keep going. Do you

2218
01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:58,060
have a question? Before just the

2219
01:26:58,060 --> 01:26:59,060
insinuations?

2220
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:00,020
>> I would go a little further.

2221
01:27:00,020 --> 01:27:04,020
>> I believe you could. Your

2222
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:05,020
question has the pertain to what

2223
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:06,020
you just said.

2224
01:27:06,020 --> 01:27:08,020
>> My question is, are you, as

2225
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:10,020
the Mayor, prepared to get on

2226
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:13,020
board with council and the

2227
01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:16,020
administration in the best

2228
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:20,020
interest of the citizens? And

2229
01:27:20,020 --> 01:27:22,020
you can run the city, and if you

2230
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:24,020
cannot run the city alone, if

2231
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:27,020
you can't get on board -- on

2232
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:29,020
board, I suggest that you resign

2233
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:34,020
and leave one of the councillors

2234
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:36,020
to finish the term allotted that

2235
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:37,020
you have.

2236
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:39,020
>> Unfortunately, Mr. Kelly, an

2237
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:40,020
awful lot of people disagree

2238
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:41,020
with you on. That I was elected

2239
01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:44,020
Mayor for a reason. One would

2240
01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:46,020
hope that the administration,'s

2241
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:47,020
councillors get along with

2242
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:50,020
mayors as well and we work in

2243
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:52,020
tandem. You are lumping the

2244
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:54,020
administration into your

2245
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:56,020
question was an unfair one. They

2246
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:57,020
are non political and they don't

2247
01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:59,020
like to be lumped in like that,

2248
01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:00,080
like you've just done, implying

2249
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,080
that they are adopting a

2250
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,080
political stance where they

2251
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,080
concur one way or the other. I

2252
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,080
assure, you from my knowledge,

2253
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,080
the administration and I get

2254
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,080
along just fine. And there is no

2255
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,080
rancor and no harsh feelings

2256
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,080
between us. The meeting that you

2257
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,080
said I called on the issue that

2258
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,080
was close to me, it's not close

2259
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,080
to me. It's close to everybody

2260
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,080
in the city. It was on building

2261
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,080
height and the City green

2262
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,080
spaces, which was not an issue

2263
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,080
that's close to me. It's an

2264
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:32,080
issue that is a dominant issue

2265
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,080
in Pointe-Claire society, sir.

2266
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,080
It was not self serving in any

2267
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:42,080
way, shape or form. The calling

2268
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,080
a meeting that was on an issue,

2269
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,080
to me, has been done. Special

2270
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,080
council meetings have been

2271
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,080
called by other members of

2272
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,080
Council on three separate

2273
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,080
occasions, besides. Me so it is

2274
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,080
done already. Against my wishes.

2275
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,040
And this was prior to my special

2276
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,040
meeting. It was done on three

2277
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
separate occasions against my

2278
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,040
wishes and against me. They were

2279
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,040
called against me. But I guess

2280
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,040
the most important answer I can

2281
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:15,040
give you, I remember when I was

2282
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,040
running for mayor in the last

2283
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,040
mandate, prior to running for

2284
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,040
mayor when I was a citizen, I

2285
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,040
would come to Council meetings

2286
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,040
that were far more disruptive

2287
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,040
than the ones during my mandate.

2288
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:31,040
And I've seen people go, Mr.

2289
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,040
Kelly, you have some kind of

2290
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:33,040
revisionist history going on.

2291
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,040
There I remember people being

2292
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,040
thrown out. I remember people

2293
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,040
being thrown out on a constant

2294
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,040
basis. People standing up and

2295
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,040
yelling. I remember the

2296
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,040
particular pioneer concert --

2297
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,040
consultation was incredibly

2298
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,040
rockets and people were slamming

2299
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,040
doors. So, the juxtaposition is

2300
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,040
not a fair, one sir. And your

2301
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,040
memory is really coloured on

2302
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:58,040
that one. As to whether I am

2303
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,000
resigning, no. Because I serve

2304
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
the people and the people chose

2305
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,000
me and they chose the philosophy

2306
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,000
in perspective that I espoused

2307
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,000
during the last campaign. And I

2308
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,000
think they still do and I will

2309
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,000
not betray the people in this

2310
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,000
regard. And I had one of the

2311
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,000
(applause)

2312
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,000
One other issue, so many things

2313
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
going. I think that is the best.

2314
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,000
As you, know I have no intention

2315
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,000
of resigning. And I do plan to

2316
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,000
run again to save this beautiful

2317
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:26,000
city. Thank, you sir.

2318
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,000
>> I would just like to make a

2319
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,000
clarification, please.

2320
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,000
>> Go ahead, Councillor Stork. I

2321
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,000
just want to clarify that the

2322
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,000
three special meetings that we

2323
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,000
had weren't against you, they

2324
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,000
were for the citizens of

2325
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,000
Pointe-Claire.

2326
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,000
>> They were against my wishes.

2327
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,000
Councillor Stork sees them as

2328
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,000
the councillors of,

2329
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,000
Pointe-Claire that's very. Now

2330
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,000
if they were special council

2331
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,000
meetings that disagreed with my

2332
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,000
position that were called

2333
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,000
against me, against my position.

2334
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,000
So there we go. Okay, so, Linda.

2335
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:05,060
Dumas.

2336
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:22,060
>> It's really useful. I thought

2337
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:26,060
that was another step.

2338
01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:31,060
>> It's right over there.

2339
01:31:33,060 --> 01:31:38,060
>> I am -- sorry. Good evening,

2340
01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:42,060
I am sad that we are in such

2341
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:45,060
conflict. My heart is beating a

2342
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:48,060
little bit faster. My hearing --

2343
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:50,060
I'm hearing that they are

2344
01:31:50,060 --> 01:31:54,060
possibly or has been some

2345
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,060
compromised -- compromise in

2346
01:31:55,060 --> 01:32:00,020
caucus.

2347
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:07,020
And I know that

2348
01:32:11,020 --> 01:32:13,020
that we are on the right track

2349
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:18,020
to save the forest. Because the

2350
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:23,020
federal ministries, provincial

2351
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:25,020
ministries, et cetera, et cetera

2352
01:32:25,020 --> 01:32:29,020
are coming on board. And those

2353
01:32:29,020 --> 01:32:30,020
higher levels of government are

2354
01:32:30,020 --> 01:32:33,020
always more ponderous in taking

2355
01:32:33,020 --> 01:32:35,020
a longer time than what we

2356
01:32:35,020 --> 01:32:39,020
should be doing. Linda do it is

2357
01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:43,020
saying that we have some powers.

2358
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:47,020
I'm so happy that the majority

2359
01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:49,020
of us -- can you not hear?

2360
01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:51,020
>> No, this is better.

2361
01:32:51,020 --> 01:32:53,020
>> Sorry. That the majority of

2362
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:56,020
us did vote for you and your

2363
01:32:56,020 --> 01:32:57,020
platform. I would like to point

2364
01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:59,020
out that there was a third

2365
01:32:59,020 --> 01:33:03,080
candidate, mayoral T candidate

2366
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,080
who received 8%, whose platform,

2367
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,080
a different personality whose

2368
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,080
platform was really identical

2369
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:17,080
with saving this lung of

2370
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,080
humanity in the 21st century. We

2371
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,080
must keep in mind, it's the 21st

2372
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,080
century. For over 40 years,

2373
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,080
since 1980, the data has been

2374
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:34,080
crystal clear that we are --

2375
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,080
that humanity isn't a desperate

2376
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,080
time. The planet does not, the

2377
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,080
planet will do what the planet

2378
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:45,080
is going to do. But 100 years of

2379
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,080
the 20th century, we were so

2380
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,080
promiscuous, we were so

2381
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:55,080
wonderful. We were so -- we were

2382
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,040
so -- we were super human

2383
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:04,040
beings. And we lost the plot.

2384
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,040
And I have so many wishes. I do

2385
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,040
wish that this chair behind you,

2386
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:14,040
sir, is not just a throwaway

2387
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:19,040
token. It was presented --

2388
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,040
Sandra, were you here with

2389
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,040
others? There is a desperate

2390
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:29,040
need for our youth to see in us

2391
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,040
the ability to act for them. To

2392
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,040
give them an inkling of hope for

2393
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,040
the future. Where is granted

2394
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:46,040
Thunberg always in jail? It is

2395
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,040
perplexing. I started on a

2396
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:52,040
positive note.

2397
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,040
>> There is a question coming?

2398
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,040
>> No, I never have a question

2399
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,040
because I think that's beneath

2400
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:03,000
the citizens. This is a

2401
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,000
citizens, period.

2402
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,000
>> It's actually question

2403
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,000
period.

2404
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,000
>> I would like the commentary

2405
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,000
of -- on this pamphlet that I

2406
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,000
found that a post office kiosk.

2407
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,000
The only one, it was last week.

2408
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:25,000
I have read it. I like it -- I

2409
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:30,000
like the simplicity of it. It

2410
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,000
wasn't mailed, was? It

2411
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000
otherwise, I would have received

2412
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,000
it. Were there piles of it

2413
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,000
everywhere? Why don't we have a

2414
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,000
pile of it here? So, I would

2415
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:43,000
like commentary as to got this.

2416
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,000
I very much like

2417
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,000
-- there is the other stuff, the

2418
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,000
improving the citizen

2419
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,060
consultation platform. And I

2420
01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:04,060
spent all of yesterday with Coco

2421
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:09,060
Rico, your consultation seemed

2422
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:11,060
to have wasted an awful lot of

2423
01:36:11,060 --> 01:36:13,060
time last year. And we are going

2424
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:16,060
at it again. It is 14 pages.

2425
01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:19,060
Everybody, read it. It is very

2426
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:21,060
good. There is one mention a

2427
01:36:21,060 --> 01:36:22,060
terracotta forest and the

2428
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:24,060
mention is that we have got to

2429
01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:26,060
get rid of the buck thorn,

2430
01:36:26,060 --> 01:36:28,060
absolutely. I've got it all

2431
01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:31,060
around me. But what I would like

2432
01:36:31,060 --> 01:36:34,060
to, see Madam --, as you have

2433
01:36:34,060 --> 01:36:37,060
said in your comment, that we

2434
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:40,060
want to be more current. I would

2435
01:36:40,060 --> 01:36:42,060
like to see the next publication

2436
01:36:42,060 --> 01:36:44,060
of this, if you could give me a

2437
01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:47,060
call so that I don't just

2438
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:48,060
accidentally happened to get it,

2439
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:53,060
I would like to see you going

2440
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:57,060
out to the scientific community,

2441
01:36:57,060 --> 01:36:59,060
local and beyond, you really

2442
01:36:59,060 --> 01:37:03,020
don't have to go far. And have

2443
01:37:03,020 --> 01:37:07,020
as many pages that are needed to

2444
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:11,020
inform the citizenry of this.

2445
01:37:11,020 --> 01:37:12,020
>> Respectfully, you should

2446
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:13,020
address the mayor.

2447
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:14,020
>> Excuse me?

2448
01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:17,020
>> You should address the mayor.

2449
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:20,020
>> Oh, fine. A very good, very

2450
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:24,020
good. And you, of course. I

2451
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:27,020
would like commentary. That is

2452
01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:31,020
my question. Can we get the

2453
01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:34,020
green coalition, the legacy

2454
01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:38,020
fund, the wonderful say Fairview

2455
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:40,020
forest, they are wells of

2456
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:42,020
knowledge. You are gentlemen.

2457
01:37:42,020 --> 01:37:44,020
Bruno Tremblay is a wealth of

2458
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:47,020
knowledge. He is your friend. He

2459
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:51,020
speaks with you. I know that he

2460
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:52,020
tells you that you have run out

2461
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:55,020
of time. We've all run out of

2462
01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:59,020
time. If you are going to do

2463
01:37:59,020 --> 01:38:01,080
something, Linda De Witt said it

2464
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,080
best, get it done. And there's

2465
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,080
always a way to pay for this.

2466
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,080
There is always a way to

2467
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,080
negotiate. And the thought came

2468
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,080
to me after reading 24 hours of

2469
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,080
the Ontario teachers pension

2470
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,080
plan on Cadillac Fairview over

2471
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:20,080
the last 24 hours. Their mandate

2472
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,080
is to improve, improve, improve,

2473
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,080
get to zero net. Tell Cadillac

2474
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,080
Fairview who is owned and does

2475
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,080
the bidding of a teacher's

2476
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,080
pension plan that they don't

2477
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:40,080
have to initially spend a scent

2478
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:44,080
if they keep that forest as it

2479
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,080
is. It will benefit the heat

2480
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,080
island, their heat island,

2481
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,080
they're in permeability, which,

2482
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,080
councillors, that has to be

2483
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,080
changed.

2484
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,080
>> I've got to get you --

2485
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,080
>> Commentary, please, from

2486
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,040
Madame Verdun. I don't know who

2487
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,040
puts this together. I would

2488
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,040
really love to see something to

2489
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:11,040
address the issue that we voted

2490
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:15,040
in for, that two mayoral tea

2491
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,040
candidates worked on and it's

2492
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,040
not pie in the sky. That's why

2493
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,040
on October 15th, probably, was

2494
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,040
as raucous as it was, sadly, as

2495
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:30,040
it was. And hopefully has

2496
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,040
spurred this somewhat

2497
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,040
reconciliation. Please do not

2498
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:37,040
frighten us, Mr. Stork, with

2499
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,040
money. Money will always be

2500
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,040
found to do the right thing. The

2501
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,040
money that we don't have is

2502
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,040
reparations for not doing what

2503
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:50,040
we absolutely must do.

2504
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,040
>> That's it? No question?

2505
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,040
>> My question is, I would like

2506
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,040
commentary.

2507
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,040
>> Commentary on that?

2508
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,000
>> Yes.

2509
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,000
>> Madame Verdun?

2510
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,000
>> We want to see --

2511
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:10,000
>> Oh, no, no. Okay, all right.

2512
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,000
I met, how are we distributing

2513
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,000
it and who are we sending it to?

2514
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,000
No, okay. Ralph statistic? I

2515
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:33,000
can't answer for Madame Verdun.

2516
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,000
>> It's a question period for

2517
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,000
the City Council.

2518
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:41,000
>> Yes. Okay, so -- no, no, no.

2519
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,000
It's a question period for City

2520
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:48,000
Council. The staff does, and the

2521
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,000
staff makes the --

2522
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,000
>> It's the communications

2523
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,000
department.

2524
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,000
>> You can ask the

2525
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,000
communications department

2526
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,060
tomorrow, Mrs. do miss. Okay,

2527
01:41:01,060 --> 01:41:04,060
Mister stock?

2528
01:41:04,060 --> 01:41:07,060
>> I'll be really fast.

2529
01:41:07,060 --> 01:41:08,060
[Laughter]

2530
01:41:08,060 --> 01:41:11,060
Last month, I was so upset with

2531
01:41:11,060 --> 01:41:13,060
Council, I had kind of had it

2532
01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:17,060
and given up, really, on the

2533
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:20,060
possibilities. And I am really

2534
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:23,060
afraid to be optimistic tonight.

2535
01:41:23,060 --> 01:41:26,060
But extremely hopeful and I hope

2536
01:41:26,060 --> 01:41:28,060
it doesn't get screwed up and I

2537
01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:29,060
think the citizens have said it

2538
01:41:29,060 --> 01:41:31,060
over and over again, whatever

2539
01:41:31,060 --> 01:41:34,060
side you are on, it looks like

2540
01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:37,060
you have made yourselves an

2541
01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:40,060
opportunity and responded with

2542
01:41:40,060 --> 01:41:43,060
some leadership to finally sort

2543
01:41:43,060 --> 01:41:44,060
this out in a way that you know

2544
01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:48,060
the citizens want. So, I am

2545
01:41:48,060 --> 01:41:49,060
encouraged. I've thrown out what

2546
01:41:49,060 --> 01:41:51,060
I was going to say because I

2547
01:41:51,060 --> 01:41:52,060
read very carefully, many times

2548
01:41:52,060 --> 01:41:55,060
over, your resolution. I like

2549
01:41:55,060 --> 01:41:56,060
some of the changes. Who knows

2550
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:59,060
what it will be eventually. I do

2551
01:41:59,060 --> 01:42:04,020
want to say that I hope -- it

2552
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:06,020
didn't seem to be in the current

2553
01:42:06,020 --> 01:42:08,020
resolution. I hope, in the end,

2554
01:42:08,020 --> 01:42:12,020
that Cadillac Fairview will have

2555
01:42:12,020 --> 01:42:15,020
no role in determining the

2556
01:42:15,020 --> 01:42:18,020
nature of our consultations. And

2557
01:42:18,020 --> 01:42:21,020
Cadillac Fairview will not be

2558
01:42:21,020 --> 01:42:23,020
involved in early meetings where

2559
01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:25,020
they determine what people can

2560
01:42:25,020 --> 01:42:28,020
say and what the agenda is.

2561
01:42:28,020 --> 01:42:30,020
Whether it be in consultations

2562
01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:33,020
or with the eventual outcomes

2563
01:42:33,020 --> 01:42:35,020
for Mu1 and Mu2. That's not

2564
01:42:35,020 --> 01:42:38,020
their role, that is the private

2565
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:40,020
corporation. Their role, is to

2566
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:41,020
get as much profit as they

2567
01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:43,020
possibly can for their

2568
01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:44,020
stakeholders. And that is all

2569
01:42:44,020 --> 01:42:47,020
fine and good. But our city,

2570
01:42:47,020 --> 01:42:49,020
it's our cities role, our cities

2571
01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:51,020
administration, our cities

2572
01:42:51,020 --> 01:42:54,020
councillors to determine our

2573
01:42:54,020 --> 01:42:55,020
future, not a private

2574
01:42:55,020 --> 01:42:57,020
corporation. Even if they do run

2575
01:42:57,020 --> 01:43:00,080
the land, it doesn't matter. The

2576
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,080
City has a role. And I hope that

2577
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,080
that is realized. And I think

2578
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,080
you've maybe taken a real step

2579
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,080
in leadership and compromise.

2580
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,080
And I am very, very hopeful that

2581
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,080
you guys can get it together.

2582
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,080
Thank you very much. And I'm

2583
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,080
going to stop because I don't

2584
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,080
have a question. You answered it

2585
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,080
when you change the agenda.

2586
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:22,080
Thanks.

2587
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,080
>> Okay. Sandra Mackay? Same

2588
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,080
there?

2589
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,080
[Inaudible]

2590
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:34,080
>> May I have a comment, please?

2591
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,080
We also it was originally

2592
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:39,080
written. It was much more

2593
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,080
encompassing. It was very heavy.

2594
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,080
It was mentioned, Cadillac

2595
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,080
Fairview, Mu1, Mu2. I just want

2596
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,080
to say that after what

2597
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:54,080
transpired with the letters, Mr.

2598
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,080
-- speech last month, which

2599
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:57,080
upset me, that's, okay your

2600
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:00,040
motion will just like I am. When

2601
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,040
we came to caucus today,

2602
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,040
obviously, it is behind closed

2603
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:06,040
doors. But I can see for the

2604
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,040
first time that we discussed

2605
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,040
things and had an open

2606
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,040
conversation. And we figured it

2607
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,040
out. I just want to point out

2608
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,040
that things were going south,

2609
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,040
yes. And I mean this from the

2610
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,040
bottom of my heart, I thank

2611
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,040
Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, because I

2612
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,040
think she rained everything back

2613
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,040
in to an extent. And I think we

2614
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,040
got to a situation where on

2615
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,040
Council, everybody, except the

2616
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,040
mayor, which is fine, it's his

2617
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,040
prerogative, the favour of this

2618
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,040
new resolution to get exactly

2619
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,040
that. Cadillac Fairview is in,

2620
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,040
we pulled them out. We've

2621
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,040
changed things. Originally, we

2622
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,040
were going to add something. If

2623
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:44,040
they do want to play games, we

2624
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,040
will do this anyhow. So I think

2625
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,040
we really came to a compromise.

2626
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,040
That all of our target audience

2627
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,040
and, that's what we need to do.

2628
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:54,040
I think the Mayor mentioned it's

2629
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,040
a bit of a watershed moment and

2630
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,040
hopefully we can continue that.

2631
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,000
>> David Johnson?

2632
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,000
>> Just like my new best friend,

2633
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:20,000
Ralph, I'm very impressed that

2634
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:25,000
tonight, you had a meeting hours

2635
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:29,000
before Council, there were

2636
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:30,000
points of disagreement going

2637
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:34,000
into. It somehow, you worked

2638
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,000
collaboratively and have come to

2639
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,000
a consensus. Congratulations to

2640
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:45,000
you all. Did you have the same

2641
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,000
meeting before the special

2642
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,000
meeting in October?

2643
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:00,060
>> Why was there no meeting like

2644
01:46:00,060 --> 01:46:01,060
there was tonight?

2645
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:03,060
>> The meeting we have tonight

2646
01:46:03,060 --> 01:46:05,060
was a direct result of the last

2647
01:46:05,060 --> 01:46:07,060
meeting. And that's why it went

2648
01:46:07,060 --> 01:46:08,060
so positively.

2649
01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:09,060
>> I would like to comment to

2650
01:46:09,060 --> 01:46:10,060
that, please.

2651
01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:11,060
>> Sure.

2652
01:46:11,060 --> 01:46:13,060
>> I think the meeting of a

2653
01:46:13,060 --> 01:46:15,060
month and a half ago, when I

2654
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:17,060
said in public that I was going

2655
01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:19,060
to make this a little -- and put

2656
01:46:19,060 --> 01:46:21,060
together a resolution

2657
01:46:21,060 --> 01:46:22,060
communicating after that, I

2658
01:46:22,060 --> 01:46:26,060
think this meeting, yes, you're

2659
01:46:26,060 --> 01:46:28,060
resolution, some -- as we said,

2660
01:46:28,060 --> 01:46:30,060
we all agreed on public

2661
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:31,060
consultations. It's just that

2662
01:46:31,060 --> 01:46:33,060
some people had concerns all the

2663
01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:34,060
way was written and we put a

2664
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:37,060
majority of what was in yours

2665
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:39,060
and adopted it. But please do

2666
01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:41,060
not say that this meeting, this

2667
01:46:41,060 --> 01:46:42,060
resolution is subject to what

2668
01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:45,060
you did last week. This process

2669
01:46:45,060 --> 01:46:46,060
started much before.

2670
01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:47,060
>> It's not what I did last

2671
01:46:47,060 --> 01:46:48,060
week. Gets what the citizens did

2672
01:46:48,060 --> 01:46:50,060
last week. And I think, Mr.

2673
01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:53,060
Johnson, that we've had ample

2674
01:46:53,060 --> 01:46:54,060
opportunity to have meetings

2675
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:57,060
like the one we had tonight.

2676
01:46:57,060 --> 01:47:01,020
We've had ample opportunities.

2677
01:47:01,020 --> 01:47:03,020
>> This is a good --

2678
01:47:03,020 --> 01:47:04,020
>> It's not a specific moment.

2679
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:07,020
We've had three years of

2680
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:08,020
opportunity. It happened

2681
01:47:08,020 --> 01:47:11,020
tonight. I particularly think --

2682
01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:12,020
>> It's a breakthrough.

2683
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:15,020
>> I think that the last meeting

2684
01:47:15,020 --> 01:47:18,020
had a major influence. And I

2685
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:19,020
think the citizens had an impact

2686
01:47:19,020 --> 01:47:22,020
and I applaud them. And I think

2687
01:47:22,020 --> 01:47:23,020
that's --

2688
01:47:23,020 --> 01:47:24,020
>> Congratulations to you. Well

2689
01:47:24,020 --> 01:47:26,020
>> Councillor Tremblay, did you

2690
01:47:26,020 --> 01:47:29,020
want to speak? No, okay.

2691
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:44,020
>> I can never be heard, all

2692
01:47:44,020 --> 01:47:45,020
these questions. You're keeping

2693
01:47:45,020 --> 01:47:48,020
us on our toes. I just want to

2694
01:47:48,020 --> 01:47:50,020
mention about the whereas, I

2695
01:47:50,020 --> 01:47:51,020
know it is too late to modify

2696
01:47:51,020 --> 01:47:56,020
the resolution but I would like

2697
01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:57,020
to, I can member who it was that

2698
01:47:57,020 --> 01:47:59,020
said about the 30% protection of

2699
01:47:59,020 --> 01:48:00,080
green spaces.

2700
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:01,080
>> That was me.

2701
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,080
>> That was you, thank you very

2702
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,080
much. The peanut does require,

2703
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,080
it does recommend protection of

2704
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:09,080
30% of green spaces. I would

2705
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:14,080
also like to mention that the --

2706
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,080
protected the wetlands. The new

2707
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,080
scheme is in the draft versions

2708
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:22,080
but it protects 30% of the

2709
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,080
forest because of the wetlands.

2710
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,080
That is important that it be in

2711
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,080
their. I think it could be

2712
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,080
really important for it to be in

2713
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:33,080
there. But as for my questions,

2714
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,080
first of, all I'm really excited

2715
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,080
about the fact that the

2716
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:37,080
resolution came forward. I

2717
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:38,080
appreciate all the work you put

2718
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:42,080
into it. Sorry, I'm just going

2719
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,080
off notes I wrote really quickly

2720
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,080
to reassess after tonight. I'm

2721
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,080
wondering what the consultations

2722
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,080
could look like. Could it look

2723
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,080
like a presentation of the

2724
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,080
information you've gathered? Or

2725
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,080
is it a consultation where you

2726
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,080
ask for citizens participation?

2727
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,040
I am just curious about what

2728
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:01,040
that could look like, or you

2729
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,040
don't know what that could look

2730
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:06,040
like yet.

2731
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,040
>> First of, all have been

2732
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:09,040
forbid it should be us, I don't

2733
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,040
think it should be, as I think

2734
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,040
it should be a professional.

2735
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:14,040
We've had consultants in the

2736
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,040
consultation process. It should

2737
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,040
remain that way, keeping the

2738
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,040
politician -- politicians out of

2739
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,040
the consultation. I think it is

2740
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,040
the way we've done. If that

2741
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,040
would be my input on that one.

2742
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,040
As to the structuring of the

2743
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,040
consultation, that's us. And

2744
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,040
that's us through the urban

2745
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,040
planning part. We will see what

2746
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:35,040
will happen. I can't predict the

2747
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,040
future. I am a trained

2748
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,040
methodology of. I'm very

2749
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,040
concerned about it. I think it's

2750
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,040
very important that we solicit

2751
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,040
opinion in a proper way because

2752
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,040
it's a genuine expression of the

2753
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,040
population. And hopefully,

2754
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,040
that's what we will do.

2755
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040
>> Would you consider presenting

2756
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,040
the information to the public

2757
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,040
once you've gathered that?

2758
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,040
>> I would think so, yes.

2759
01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:02,000
>> Okay. My second follow-up

2760
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,000
question, would you take the

2761
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,000
liberty of changing the

2762
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,000
timelines? I find the timeline

2763
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:07,000
extremely tied together, all the

2764
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,000
information.

2765
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,000
>> Absolutely.

2766
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:10,000
>> I still do understand if the

2767
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,000
study was part of that but I'm

2768
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,000
concerned about the very short

2769
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,000
timeline until February, would

2770
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,000
you consider changing that

2771
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,000
timeline?

2772
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,000
>> I think it was changed, was

2773
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,000
it not?

2774
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,000
>> I think it remained February

2775
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:21,000
1st.

2776
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,000
>> As I mentioned to you on a

2777
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,000
social platform, we felt

2778
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,000
January, we moved up to February

2779
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,000
1st. But that is just to give us

2780
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:31,000
feedback, to give some

2781
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,000
information of where we are at.

2782
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:34,000
As I mentioned, like, the study

2783
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,000
that is required, everything

2784
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,000
else surrounding it, probably a

2785
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,000
15 month study to do a proper

2786
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,000
study. You know, I mentioned the

2787
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,000
-- that was done in seven for

2788
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:51,000
our visits over three months.

2789
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,000
>> In over nine months.

2790
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,000
>> Actually, we can debate that

2791
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,000
after. I'm not discrediting it.

2792
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,000
I'm saying a true study takes

2793
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:00,060
that long. That's what we have

2794
01:51:00,060 --> 01:51:02,060
to start this process. We have

2795
01:51:02,060 --> 01:51:03,060
everything else. But I think we

2796
01:51:03,060 --> 01:51:06,060
have to set goals and targets. I

2797
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:08,060
mean, this resolution was forced

2798
01:51:08,060 --> 01:51:09,060
because I felt, and the majority

2799
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:11,060
of Council felt that we weren't

2800
01:51:11,060 --> 01:51:13,060
doing things, for whatever

2801
01:51:13,060 --> 01:51:14,060
reason. And I'm not blaming

2802
01:51:14,060 --> 01:51:16,060
anybody. I'm part of the blame

2803
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:18,060
myself, believe me. But we have

2804
01:51:18,060 --> 01:51:20,060
to start a process. And I think

2805
01:51:20,060 --> 01:51:22,060
that is what we accomplished

2806
01:51:22,060 --> 01:51:24,060
today. The February date is just

2807
01:51:24,060 --> 01:51:26,060
a come back and say, you know,

2808
01:51:26,060 --> 01:51:27,060
we are almost done. We are

2809
01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:29,060
getting here. There is not much

2810
01:51:29,060 --> 01:51:30,060
longer. But you have to give

2811
01:51:30,060 --> 01:51:33,060
time to the administration.

2812
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:34,060
Something we have to do,

2813
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:36,060
regretfully. They need the time

2814
01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:38,060
to come back and say, hey, it's

2815
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:39,060
going to take 18 months. This

2816
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:40,060
will take four months. Here's an

2817
01:51:40,060 --> 01:51:42,060
answer on that. Throughout the

2818
01:51:42,060 --> 01:51:43,060
process, we listen to our

2819
01:51:43,060 --> 01:51:45,060
citizens. We hear them. We can

2820
01:51:45,060 --> 01:51:47,060
add and modify and things as

2821
01:51:47,060 --> 01:51:49,060
such as we go along. But my

2822
01:51:49,060 --> 01:51:51,060
endgame is simple. At one point,

2823
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:52,060
synthesized this information, as

2824
01:51:52,060 --> 01:51:55,060
I said and share with the

2825
01:51:55,060 --> 01:51:57,060
popular so that we can make

2826
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:00,020
sound, educated, fundamental

2827
01:52:00,020 --> 01:52:02,020
decisions. And what can we do?

2828
01:52:02,020 --> 01:52:05,020
What are our options? That's

2829
01:52:05,020 --> 01:52:06,020
part of the process. It will be

2830
01:52:06,020 --> 01:52:08,020
a moving target. As the mayor

2831
01:52:08,020 --> 01:52:10,020
said, they should come from

2832
01:52:10,020 --> 01:52:12,020
professional people who do their

2833
01:52:12,020 --> 01:52:13,020
job.

2834
01:52:13,020 --> 01:52:15,020
>> 100%. Just the wording of the

2835
01:52:15,020 --> 01:52:17,020
resolution was that, come

2836
01:52:17,020 --> 01:52:19,020
February 1st, the consultation

2837
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:21,020
framework would be established.

2838
01:52:21,020 --> 01:52:24,020
So I thought it just seemed very

2839
01:52:24,020 --> 01:52:26,020
process -- that seemed very

2840
01:52:26,020 --> 01:52:27,020
rapid to meet.

2841
01:52:27,020 --> 01:52:28,020
>> I agree with you. That is far

2842
01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:33,020
too rapid for that. My hope and

2843
01:52:35,020 --> 01:52:36,020
understanding, I can't speak for

2844
01:52:36,020 --> 01:52:39,020
everybody, but we can respond to

2845
01:52:39,020 --> 01:52:41,020
the options presented by the

2846
01:52:41,020 --> 01:52:43,020
various legal frameworks, Bill

2847
01:52:43,020 --> 01:52:45,020
30, nine Bill 20, two et cetera.

2848
01:52:45,020 --> 01:52:48,020
Even the -- we can get answers

2849
01:52:48,020 --> 01:52:53,020
to that. These are the primary

2850
01:52:53,020 --> 01:52:54,020
ones, the really paramount

2851
01:52:54,020 --> 01:52:55,020
issues. We should have some of

2852
01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:58,020
those in our heads before, by

2853
01:52:58,020 --> 01:52:59,020
February. But you are, right we

2854
01:52:59,020 --> 01:53:01,080
are in no position to go to

2855
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,080
consultation by February, I

2856
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:03,080
don't think. Especially if we

2857
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:04,080
are doing environmental

2858
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,080
assessments, we are no position

2859
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,080
to go to consultation. I agree.

2860
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:10,080
>> I'm still a little bit -- as

2861
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,080
to how this is going to unroll.

2862
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,080
>> I know what happens tonight.

2863
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,080
>> We've been here for four

2864
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:18,080
years but for this topic, I've

2865
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:20,080
been here many years before

2866
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,080
that. Really, I just want to say

2867
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,080
that we appreciate how much work

2868
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:25,080
has gone into this and the fact

2869
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:26,080
that it sounds like caucus and

2870
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:30,080
went okay on this topic. Just

2871
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,080
going to breathe a little bit of

2872
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:33,080
a sigh of relief here and I'm

2873
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:34,080
looking forward to seeing what

2874
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,080
happens moving forward. So,

2875
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:40,080
thank you.

2876
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:41,080
>> Gerard.

2877
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:46,080
Bonjour écrivez.

2878
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,080
>> Lynn Conway?

2879
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:03,040
>> Lynn Conway, good evening.

2880
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,040
The resolution mentioned

2881
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,040
consultations.

2882
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,040
With the firm in the

2883
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,040
consultations -- maybe 100

2884
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,040
people at the most. Why not do a

2885
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:23,040
referendum on the issues? To

2886
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,040
really know what citizens want.

2887
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:30,040
>> A referendum on which issue?

2888
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:33,040
>> For the private spaces, the

2889
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,040
private forest.

2890
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,040
>> Public spaces?

2891
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,040
>> The resolution that was voted

2892
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,040
tonight, to have public

2893
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,040
participation. Why not do a

2894
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:42,040
referendum instead?

2895
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,040
>> Well, referendums are costly

2896
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,040
and expensive. If we do it, I

2897
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,040
don't see us doing referendums

2898
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,040
on every single issue that comes

2899
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,040
up in Council. I don't know the

2900
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:53,040
feasibility of it. I mean,

2901
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,040
having a referendum, the

2902
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,040
question, of course, is crucial,

2903
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,000
all right? And they tend to be

2904
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,000
divisive. But who knows. Nothing

2905
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:05,000
is impossible. It is a

2906
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,000
possibility.

2907
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:07,000
>> This is the biggest issue

2908
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:12,000
this Council had since day one.

2909
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,000
As I've mentioned before, I

2910
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,000
participated in the

2911
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:18,000
consultations and at most, there

2912
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,000
was 100 people in the room.

2913
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:22,000
>> That's pretty good. That's

2914
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,000
pretty good, as far as

2915
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:24,000
consultations go. 100 people.

2916
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,000
>> It's just 100 people are

2917
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,000
giving their opinions. It

2918
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,000
doesn't really reflect the whole

2919
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,000
city.

2920
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,000
>> Well, an election is a

2921
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,000
reflection of the whole city.

2922
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,000
Even then, you get very little

2923
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,000
turnout. Whether you are going

2924
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:42,000
to get, I mean, 100 is good and

2925
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,000
public participation, if you get

2926
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:44,000
100, that's quite an

2927
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,000
achievement. If you get over 50,

2928
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,000
that's quite an achievement in

2929
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,000
public consultation. And I'm

2930
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,000
quite pleased at that. Actually,

2931
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,000
if you have a series of

2932
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,000
consultations, that's quite a

2933
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:59,000
good turnout. No, no, no. We

2934
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,060
cannot speak from the audience.

2935
01:56:01,060 --> 01:56:04,060
Excuse me, Miss Dumas. We can't

2936
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:06,060
speak from the audience, one

2937
01:56:06,060 --> 01:56:08,060
can't speak from the audience.

2938
01:56:08,060 --> 01:56:11,060
Sorry, Miss Conway, did you --

2939
01:56:11,060 --> 01:56:12,060
>> Didn't answer my first

2940
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:14,060
question. The second one is

2941
01:56:14,060 --> 01:56:16,060
again about the -- resolution of

2942
01:56:16,060 --> 01:56:18,060
this evening. You kept

2943
01:56:18,060 --> 01:56:19,060
mentioning private green spaces.

2944
01:56:19,060 --> 01:56:21,060
>> It should be private and

2945
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:23,060
public. It should include both

2946
01:56:23,060 --> 01:56:26,060
as per my resolution.

2947
01:56:26,060 --> 01:56:27,060
>> But the resolution --

2948
01:56:27,060 --> 01:56:29,060
>> Green spaces, private and

2949
01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:30,060
public includes all green

2950
01:56:30,060 --> 01:56:31,060
spaces.

2951
01:56:31,060 --> 01:56:32,060
>> All the public ones we own

2952
01:56:32,060 --> 01:56:33,060
are already protected. That's

2953
01:56:33,060 --> 01:56:34,060
why it says private green

2954
01:56:34,060 --> 01:56:36,060
spaces. It was done prior to

2955
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:38,060
this council getting together.

2956
01:56:38,060 --> 01:56:39,060
>> Even if we own them, there

2957
01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:41,060
are not necessarily protected.

2958
01:56:41,060 --> 01:56:43,060
There may be different ways,

2959
01:56:43,060 --> 01:56:46,060
different ways to -- there may

2960
01:56:46,060 --> 01:56:48,060
be different ways -- protection

2961
01:56:48,060 --> 01:56:51,060
is a debatable term. Anyhow,

2962
01:56:51,060 --> 01:56:53,060
Miss Conway --

2963
01:56:53,060 --> 01:56:55,060
>> From what I heard, I kept

2964
01:56:55,060 --> 01:56:57,060
hearing private green spaces

2965
01:56:57,060 --> 01:57:01,020
over and over. Mrs. Linda De

2966
01:57:02,020 --> 01:57:04,020
which mentioned Fairview forest

2967
01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:08,020
and Mu2. I don't think they were

2968
01:57:08,020 --> 01:57:09,020
specifically mentioned in the

2969
01:57:09,020 --> 01:57:10,020
resolution, can we have a list

2970
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:13,020
of what they are?

2971
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:16,020
>> Private and public green

2972
01:57:16,020 --> 01:57:17,020
spaces, all of it. It's all of.

2973
01:57:17,020 --> 01:57:18,020
It

2974
01:57:18,020 --> 01:57:19,020
>> Spaces that will be in the

2975
01:57:19,020 --> 01:57:21,020
resolution do you have a list of

2976
01:57:21,020 --> 01:57:22,020
them --

2977
01:57:22,020 --> 01:57:24,020
>> Not offhand, ponder which

2978
01:57:24,020 --> 01:57:26,020
might be included, Beaconsfield

2979
01:57:26,020 --> 01:57:29,020
golf course, these are a few I'm

2980
01:57:29,020 --> 01:57:32,020
thinking. If there are other

2981
01:57:32,020 --> 01:57:34,020
private green spaces in

2982
01:57:34,020 --> 01:57:35,020
Pointe-Claire, other than the

2983
01:57:35,020 --> 01:57:36,020
Fairview forest.

2984
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:37,020
>> Can I ask Eric, what is in

2985
01:57:37,020 --> 01:57:39,020
your mind -- do you share the

2986
01:57:39,020 --> 01:57:40,020
same list?

2987
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:42,020
>> No, I will not. I think this

2988
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:43,020
is a Council decision, we will

2989
01:57:43,020 --> 01:57:46,020
go back, we can communicate and

2990
01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:48,020
discuss what informations are

2991
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:49,020
provided and come back,

2992
01:57:49,020 --> 01:57:51,020
hopefully on a unit -- united

2993
01:57:51,020 --> 01:57:52,020
front.

2994
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:53,020
>> This council voted on this

2995
01:57:53,020 --> 01:57:54,020
resolution but nobody can

2996
01:57:54,020 --> 01:57:56,020
provide us with the list is of

2997
01:57:56,020 --> 01:57:59,020
the private green spaces?

2998
01:57:59,020 --> 01:58:00,080
>> We are not there yet. We have

2999
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,080
not even -- we just decided to

3000
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:07,080
do it two hours ago. Three hours

3001
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,080
ago. We just decided. We have no

3002
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,080
idea where we are going.

3003
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:11,080
>> But some thoughts, even

3004
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:13,080
before October 15th, some

3005
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,080
thought has been put into this.

3006
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,080
>> We haven't gotten to this

3007
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,080
point yet. We are just there

3008
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,080
now.

3009
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:21,080
>> Okay, thank you.

3010
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,080
>> Thank you. Do we have time,

3011
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:27,080
Madam? One more. Murray Scott?

3012
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,080
>> Three more.

3013
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:31,080
>> Nine minutes left.

3014
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,080
>> Nine.

3015
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,080
>> Maureen Scott?

3016
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:45,080
>> Good evening. I too would

3017
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:49,080
like to just add my thanks for

3018
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,080
what the council has brought

3019
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:56,080
this evening, a sign of hope.

3020
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:57,080
All my questions have actually

3021
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:00,040
been dealt with, the ones I came

3022
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:05,040
with and signed up for. I would

3023
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:08,040
just add that I never had a

3024
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:11,040
chance like the rest of the

3025
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:14,040
audience to see the amended

3026
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,040
resolution before it was

3027
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:22,040
presented. And so, that's fine.

3028
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,040
[Laughter]

3029
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:27,040
But it all came like a wave. And

3030
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,040
I tried to listen carefully to

3031
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,040
find out everything that was

3032
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,040
referred to. I think many of the

3033
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:36,040
other speakers have brought up

3034
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:40,040
the points that came from that

3035
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,040
second, or that I voted on, the

3036
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,040
resolution this evening. I will

3037
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,040
go home and try to sort

3038
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,040
everything out and learn more

3039
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,040
about what has been said this

3040
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,040
evening. And I will just try to

3041
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,040
do my best to keep up.

3042
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:56,040
>> Well, do grab a copy of the

3043
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:57,040
resolution.

3044
01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:58,040
>> The resolution is not on the

3045
01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,040
table.

3046
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,000
>> It's not on the table?

3047
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,000
>> No, you spoke to it very

3048
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:05,000
fast. I was trying to support

3049
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:06,000
everything. I just need to learn

3050
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,000
about it.

3051
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:09,000
>> Okay, we've got to get a copy

3052
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,000
out there.

3053
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:12,000
>> Yes.

3054
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:17,000
>> Janet Hannah.

3055
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:23,000
>> Thank you. You brought this

3056
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:28,000
up before. $25 million, $25

3057
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:31,000
million, $25 million for the

3058
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:35,000
renovation of a building.

3059
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,000
Pointe-Claire Public Works. No

3060
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:38,000
contract details, no supplies

3061
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:40,000
details, and no suppliers

3062
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:43,000
details, and no raw materials

3063
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:46,000
details, and no labour cost

3064
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,000
details. Why?

3065
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,000
>> Can I just interrupt? We had

3066
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:51,000
an entire session on that, an

3067
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,000
entire council meeting on all

3068
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:56,000
the details about public works.

3069
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:57,000
>> There is nothing that is on

3070
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,060
the website. We asked for it in

3071
02:01:00,060 --> 02:01:02,060
June of last year, there was

3072
02:01:02,060 --> 02:01:04,060
information that was going to be

3073
02:01:04,060 --> 02:01:06,060
posted on the website and it is

3074
02:01:06,060 --> 02:01:10,060
not there. We pay federal income

3075
02:01:10,060 --> 02:01:12,060
tax, provincial income tax, GST,

3076
02:01:12,060 --> 02:01:16,060
PTSD, Q S T, all the STDs.

3077
02:01:16,060 --> 02:01:19,060
Property tax, water tax with

3078
02:01:19,060 --> 02:01:21,060
fluoride in it, God forbid.

3079
02:01:21,060 --> 02:01:26,060
School tax, welcome tax. Where

3080
02:01:26,060 --> 02:01:29,060
are all our tax dollars going?

3081
02:01:29,060 --> 02:01:31,060
Nonprofit organizations,

3082
02:01:31,060 --> 02:01:33,060
hundreds of thousands of dollars

3083
02:01:33,060 --> 02:01:37,060
going into a black hole. Who are

3084
02:01:37,060 --> 02:01:40,060
these organizations? Who works

3085
02:01:40,060 --> 02:01:42,060
there? What do they do with our

3086
02:01:42,060 --> 02:01:46,060
money? You, as mayor and

3087
02:01:47,060 --> 02:01:49,060
councillors, is the car you are

3088
02:01:49,060 --> 02:01:52,060
driving paid for by us? Do you

3089
02:01:52,060 --> 02:01:53,060
have an expense account? Do you

3090
02:01:53,060 --> 02:01:58,060
get bonuses? $25 million,

3091
02:02:00,020 --> 02:02:03,020
hundreds of thousands of dollars

3092
02:02:03,020 --> 02:02:06,020
to nonprofit organizations.

3093
02:02:06,020 --> 02:02:07,020
Hundreds of thousands of dollars

3094
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:10,020
for office furniture. Where it

3095
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:14,020
is and? Who are you working for?

3096
02:02:14,020 --> 02:02:15,020
It doesn't look like you are

3097
02:02:15,020 --> 02:02:17,020
working for us, although you

3098
02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:19,020
were all elected to work for us,

3099
02:02:19,020 --> 02:02:22,020
the residents of Pointe-Claire.

3100
02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:24,020
We are tired of paying taxes and

3101
02:02:24,020 --> 02:02:27,020
want property taxes, school

3102
02:02:27,020 --> 02:02:30,020
taxes, water taxes and welcome

3103
02:02:30,020 --> 02:02:35,020
taxes abolished. All these taxes

3104
02:02:35,020 --> 02:02:37,020
are a form of slavery, aren't

3105
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:40,020
they? We work to give you our

3106
02:02:40,020 --> 02:02:44,020
money to put into black holes.

3107
02:02:44,020 --> 02:02:46,020
All this while people starve and

3108
02:02:46,020 --> 02:02:48,020
have a hard time making ends

3109
02:02:48,020 --> 02:02:53,020
meet. Then there is the C 40

3110
02:02:53,020 --> 02:02:55,020
cities program. I suppose you

3111
02:02:55,020 --> 02:02:58,020
are familiar with that? Of which

3112
02:02:58,020 --> 02:03:01,080
Montréal has become a part of.

3113
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,080
That is the idea of the

3114
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:05,080
15-minute city. Basically, an

3115
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:09,080
open air prison. An open air

3116
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,080
prison for the residents of

3117
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,080
Pointe-Claire. You want to

3118
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:15,080
implement the 15-minute city,

3119
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:18,080
isn't that right? You want to

3120
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:19,080
put all the citizens of

3121
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:22,080
Pointe-Claire in an open air

3122
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,080
prison. Right? All of course in

3123
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:28,080
the name of the fake climate

3124
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,080
change agenda.

3125
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:33,080
[Laughter]

3126
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:34,080
>> If that is the case, when you

3127
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:35,080
plant

3128
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,080
(applause)

3129
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:37,080
-- Plan to resign, because you

3130
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:40,080
no longer serve the residents of

3131
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:41,080
Pointe-Claire? This applies to

3132
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:42,080
you, all Mayor and councillors.

3133
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:46,080
If you will not reject or back

3134
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:50,080
out of the C 40's program, if

3135
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,080
you will not abolish property

3136
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:54,080
taxes, water tax, school tax,

3137
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:57,080
welcome tax, then when will you

3138
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:00,040
resign? We need a mayor and

3139
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:02,040
councillors who will serve the

3140
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,040
people and work for the people

3141
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,040
and work for the well-being of

3142
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:09,040
the people and the residents of

3143
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,040
Pointe-Claire. Please don't use

3144
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,040
climate change as an excuse

3145
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:16,040
because that is a big hoax.

3146
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:17,040
Thank you.

3147
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:18,040
>> Okay. Is there a question in

3148
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,040
there?

3149
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:20,040
>> Yeah, that was a question.

3150
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:23,040
>> That's it? Okay. I will refer

3151
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:25,040
you -- to answer that, I will

3152
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:29,040
start broad and narrow down.

3153
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:32,040
Thomas hubs once wrote that

3154
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:35,040
without the lion, life would be

3155
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:37,040
nasty, brutish and short. And if

3156
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,040
you know what he means by that,

3157
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,040
if you don't have good

3158
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,040
government or nation states, if

3159
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,040
you don't have an overarching

3160
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:46,040
form of redistribution, taxes

3161
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:49,040
and services, you have a dog eat

3162
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,040
dog world where people die

3163
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,040
quickly at a young age and

3164
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:53,040
that's what happens when you

3165
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:56,040
don't have the life in. You get

3166
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:57,040
lord of the flies. We've seen

3167
02:04:57,040 --> 02:05:01,000
this over time. You get mad Max.

3168
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,000
The love I think keeps us safe

3169
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:05,000
and alive. And I am answering

3170
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,000
the question. Your tax dollars

3171
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:08,000
goes to the live Ethan. We are

3172
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,000
the love of thin, so is the

3173
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,000
provincial and the federal. We

3174
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,000
look after things get

3175
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,000
redistributed, things get even

3176
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:19,000
back to people. Incredible what

3177
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:20,000
Pointe-Claire gives its citizens

3178
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,000
for its tax. Dollar I'm sitting

3179
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,000
here and I see. It it's

3180
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:25,000
incredible services citizens

3181
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:28,000
get. And again -- excuse me,

3182
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,000
excuse me, I will answer the --

3183
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:32,000
excuse me. You can't yell from

3184
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,000
your chair, okay? You can't

3185
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,000
speak from your chair. I'm

3186
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,000
answering your question. You

3187
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,000
have one follow-up question,

3188
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,000
okay? One follow-up question.

3189
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,000
And I'm not finished answering

3190
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:47,000
it. The important thing to

3191
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:50,000
remember about what we do is

3192
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,000
that it is the best we can do

3193
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:53,000
with the tax dollar that comes

3194
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,000
in. You get your water, you get

3195
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,000
your streets, you get the

3196
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,000
police. That is not municipal.

3197
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,060
But everything that you get in

3198
02:06:01,060 --> 02:06:02,060
society that makes your life

3199
02:06:02,060 --> 02:06:04,060
saint and safe comes from the

3200
02:06:04,060 --> 02:06:08,060
Laval youth. To say that it is a

3201
02:06:08,060 --> 02:06:11,060
waste of money is preposterous

3202
02:06:11,060 --> 02:06:16,060
in my opinion. Non profit

3203
02:06:16,060 --> 02:06:18,060
organizations as black holes, I

3204
02:06:18,060 --> 02:06:20,060
go to nonprofit organizations to

3205
02:06:20,060 --> 02:06:23,060
support them, friends of mental

3206
02:06:23,060 --> 02:06:28,060
health -- the hearing impaired,

3207
02:06:29,060 --> 02:06:32,060
hunger, food scarcity. These are

3208
02:06:32,060 --> 02:06:34,060
people giving from the bottom of

3209
02:06:34,060 --> 02:06:35,060
their hearts that don't have

3210
02:06:35,060 --> 02:06:38,060
anything and we, as a government

3211
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:39,060
or the City of Pointe-Claire is

3212
02:06:39,060 --> 02:06:41,060
great doing this, we subsidize

3213
02:06:41,060 --> 02:06:44,060
these organizations, and I'm

3214
02:06:44,060 --> 02:06:47,060
proud of the city. This was

3215
02:06:47,060 --> 02:06:48,060
around long before. Me we look

3216
02:06:48,060 --> 02:06:49,060
after those groups because they

3217
02:06:49,060 --> 02:06:52,060
look after the people that fall

3218
02:06:52,060 --> 02:06:54,060
through the social safety net.

3219
02:06:54,060 --> 02:06:55,060
And people that fall through the

3220
02:06:55,060 --> 02:06:58,060
net are in real need of help.

3221
02:06:58,060 --> 02:07:00,020
How is your health care? Are you

3222
02:07:00,020 --> 02:07:01,020
always cared for? Do you always

3223
02:07:01,020 --> 02:07:02,020
get what you need? Is it

3224
02:07:02,020 --> 02:07:05,020
immediate? Is it quick? Some of

3225
02:07:05,020 --> 02:07:07,020
these organizations complement

3226
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:09,020
and augment and serve people

3227
02:07:09,020 --> 02:07:12,020
where the state can't cover all

3228
02:07:12,020 --> 02:07:15,020
what is asked of it. I don't

3229
02:07:15,020 --> 02:07:19,020
apologize at all for the

3230
02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:20,020
organizations as a city for

3231
02:07:20,020 --> 02:07:22,020
subsidizing them. I enact them

3232
02:07:22,020 --> 02:07:23,020
all the time. I support them for

3233
02:07:23,020 --> 02:07:28,020
the exact same reason. That's my

3234
02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:30,020
quick answer. Do you want a

3235
02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:33,020
subsequent one?

3236
02:07:33,020 --> 02:07:34,020
[Laughter]

3237
02:07:34,020 --> 02:07:35,020
No?

3238
02:07:35,020 --> 02:07:37,020
>> Yes, actually. If people had

3239
02:07:37,020 --> 02:07:39,020
money in their pockets by not

3240
02:07:39,020 --> 02:07:42,020
paying as much taxes, as much in

3241
02:07:42,020 --> 02:07:45,020
taxes as we are paying, these

3242
02:07:45,020 --> 02:07:46,020
organizations would not exist

3243
02:07:46,020 --> 02:07:47,020
because there would not be a

3244
02:07:47,020 --> 02:07:49,020
need for them to exist. And if

3245
02:07:49,020 --> 02:07:51,020
some of them do need to exist in

3246
02:07:51,020 --> 02:07:53,020
order to help the population,

3247
02:07:53,020 --> 02:07:55,020
that should be paid for both by

3248
02:07:55,020 --> 02:07:57,020
the federal and the municipal

3249
02:07:57,020 --> 02:07:58,020
governments. And both federal

3250
02:07:58,020 --> 02:08:00,080
and municipal governments

3251
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:02,080
collect enough in income taxes

3252
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:04,080
from us to be able to distribute

3253
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:07,080
that money instead of it going

3254
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,080
to illegal migrants or migrants

3255
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:12,080
coming in and receiving 20 $400

3256
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:14,080
a month.

3257
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,080
>> You are watching the wrong

3258
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:20,080
program. Listen, everybody, I

3259
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:24,080
suggest you run for Council. I

3260
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:26,080
will just answer quickly. But

3261
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:28,080
that's it, I will answer that

3262
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:30,080
and we will carry on with the

3263
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:34,080
meeting. History has taught us

3264
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:38,080
overtime that eventually, we

3265
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:40,080
come to revolution when we leave

3266
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:41,080
all the money in people's

3267
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:43,080
pockets. When money gets left in

3268
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:44,080
people's pockets.

3269
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:46,080
>> Basically, we are stupid, we

3270
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:47,080
can't manage our own money?

3271
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:51,080
>> You are done, excuse me.

3272
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:52,080
Okay.

3273
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:53,080
>> Time is up, Mister Mayor.

3274
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:54,080
>> Okay, thank you. I would like

3275
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:57,080
to answer, I had one last thing.

3276
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,080
To Mr. Kelly, Mr. Kelly, I

3277
02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:00,040
forgot the point I wanted to

3278
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:03,040
answer. I went to the gym based

3279
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:07,040
school of marrying, the mayor of

3280
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:09,040
Pierrefonds. He has always said

3281
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,040
to get on the ground. You don't

3282
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:13,040
need to sit around and have your

3283
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:15,040
-- they are incompetent, what to

3284
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:17,040
do. You go see what is going on

3285
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,040
in your city in person and you

3286
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,040
look after it and you watch it

3287
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:22,040
and you go speak to the people

3288
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:23,040
themselves. And that is what

3289
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:24,040
good mayors do. And good mayors

3290
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:25,040
don't sit in an ivory tower.

3291
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,040
They get out on the ground and

3292
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:29,040
see the people. And I learned

3293
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,040
that from a very good man. And

3294
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:36,040
that is the part --. Okay, let's

3295
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:38,040
-- 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt

3296
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:39,040
d'un projet de règlement

3297
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,040
modifiant le Règlement PC-2512

3298
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:41,040
sur la distribution de matériel

3299
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,040
publicitaire. Un projet de

3300
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:44,040
règlement prévoit une

3301
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:45,040
modification afin des référer

3302
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:46,040
aux règlements des tarifs pour

3303
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:51,040
les frais applicables.

3304
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:53,040
>> 5.2 Notice of motion and

3305
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:54,040
filing of a draft By-law

3306
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:55,040
amending By-law PC2642

3307
02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:56,040
pertaining to the granting of

3308
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:57,040
permits to peddlers and amending

3309
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:58,040
By-law PC-2396 regulating

3310
02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:00,000
various trades and industries.

3311
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,000
The draft bylaw provides for an

3312
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:03,000
amendment to increase the

3313
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:05,000
terrasse bylaw for applicable

3314
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:06,000
fees. 5.3 Avis de motion et

3315
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,000
dépôt d'un projet de règlement

3316
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:08,000
modifiant le Règlement de zonage

3317
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,000
PC-2775 dans le but de régir

3318
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:11,000
l'aménagement d'une unité

3319
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:12,000
d'habitation accessoire aménagée

3320
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:13,000
à l'intérieur d'un immeuble

3321
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:14,000
résidentiel appartenant à la

3322
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:18,000
classe d'usage « A ». Les unités

3323
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,000
d'habitation accessoires seront

3324
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:20,000
permises dans les secteurs

3325
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:22,000
résidentiels à faible densité où

3326
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:24,000
les habitations unifamiliales

3327
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:26,000
détachées et ça m'détaché sont

3328
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:29,000
aussi.

3329
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:30,000
>> 5.4 Notice of motion and

3330
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:32,000
filing of a draft by-law

3331
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,000
amending Conditional Uses By-law

3332
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:35,000
PC-2791 in order to govern

3333
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:36,000
accessory dwelling units

3334
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:37,000
(ADU)

3335
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:38,000
located in residential buildings

3336
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:39,000
belonging to class « A » use.

3337
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,000
This bylaw will be amended to

3338
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,000
include provisions applicable to

3339
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,000
the conversion of detached

3340
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,000
accessory buildings for the

3341
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:47,000
addition of a new building to

3342
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:48,000
allow the development of an

3343
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:49,000
accessory dwelling unit. 5.5

3344
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:50,000
Avis de motion et dépôt d'un

3345
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:51,000
projet de règlement modifiant le

3346
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,000
Règlement PC-2787 sur les plans

3347
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:54,000
d'implantation et d'intégration

3348
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:55,000
architecturale

3349
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:56,000
(PIIA)

3350
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,000
dans le but de régir les unités

3351
02:10:58,000 --> 02:10:59,000
d'habitation accessoire aménagés

3352
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:00,060
à l'intérieur d'immeubles

3353
02:11:00,060 --> 02:11:01,060
résidentiels appartenant à la

3354
02:11:01,060 --> 02:11:03,060
classe d'usage « A ». Le

3355
02:11:03,060 --> 02:11:04,060
règlement sera modifié afin

3356
02:11:04,060 --> 02:11:06,060
d'inclure des objectifs des

3357
02:11:06,060 --> 02:11:07,060
critères pour analyse des unités

3358
02:11:07,060 --> 02:11:08,060
d'habitations intégrées au

3359
02:11:08,060 --> 02:11:12,060
détaché du bâtiment principal.

3360
02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:13,060
>> 5.6 Notice of motion and

3361
02:11:13,060 --> 02:11:14,060
filing of a draft by-law

3362
02:11:14,060 --> 02:11:15,060
amending Construction By-law

3363
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:16,060
PC-2786 in order to govern

3364
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:20,060
accessory dwelling units

3365
02:11:20,060 --> 02:11:21,060
(ADU)

3366
02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:22,060
located inside residential

3367
02:11:22,060 --> 02:11:23,060
buildings belonging to class

3368
02:11:23,060 --> 02:11:25,060
“A” use. This bylaw will be

3369
02:11:25,060 --> 02:11:27,060
amended to include -- integrated

3370
02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:29,060
or detached from the main

3371
02:11:29,060 --> 02:11:30,060
building. 5.7 Avis de motion et

3372
02:11:30,060 --> 02:11:31,060
dépôt d'un projet de règlement

3373
02:11:31,060 --> 02:11:32,060
modifiant le règlement de

3374
02:11:32,060 --> 02:11:33,060
lotissement PC-2774 dans le but

3375
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:35,060
de régir les unités d'habitation

3376
02:11:35,060 --> 02:11:36,060
accessoire aménagés

3377
02:11:36,060 --> 02:11:38,060
(UHA)

3378
02:11:38,060 --> 02:11:40,060
à l'intérieur d'immeubles

3379
02:11:40,060 --> 02:11:41,060
résidentiels appartenant à la

3380
02:11:41,060 --> 02:11:42,060
classe d'usage « A ». Le

3381
02:11:42,060 --> 02:11:43,060
règlement sera modifié afin

3382
02:11:43,060 --> 02:11:44,060
d'interdire toute opération

3383
02:11:44,060 --> 02:11:45,060
catastrophe dans le but de

3384
02:11:45,060 --> 02:11:46,060
détacher l'unité d'habitation

3385
02:11:46,060 --> 02:11:48,060
accessoire de l'immeuble

3386
02:11:48,060 --> 02:11:53,060
résidentiel. 5,1 à 5,6... 5.9

3387
02:11:54,060 --> 02:11:55,060
Adoption avec modifications d'un

3388
02:11:55,060 --> 02:11:56,060
règlement décrétant les tarifs

3389
02:11:56,060 --> 02:11:57,060
exigibles pour le financement de

3390
02:11:57,060 --> 02:11:58,060
biens, services et activités

3391
02:11:58,060 --> 02:11:59,060
offerts par la Ville de

3392
02:11:59,060 --> 02:12:00,020
Pointe-Claire pour l'exercice

3393
02:12:00,020 --> 02:12:01,020
financier 2025.

3394
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:04,020
>> Brett Cowan, district eight.

3395
02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:05,020
>>

3396
02:12:05,020 --> 02:12:06,020
5.8 Adoption without

3397
02:12:06,020 --> 02:12:07,020
modification of a by-law

3398
02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:08,020
amending the Village Code,

3399
02:12:08,020 --> 02:12:09,020
By-law PC-2880, regarding

3400
02:12:09,020 --> 02:12:10,020
authorized residential use

3401
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:11,020
classes as well as the layout of

3402
02:12:11,020 --> 02:12:12,020
parking spaces required for

3403
02:12:12,020 --> 02:12:13,020
class B dwellings in UP8. This

3404
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:14,020
bylaws to permit duplex type

3405
02:12:14,020 --> 02:12:17,020
dwellings in the zone.

3406
02:12:25,020 --> 02:12:26,020
De façon générale, la

3407
02:12:26,020 --> 02:12:27,020
tarification des biens et

3408
02:12:27,020 --> 02:12:29,020
services et activités a été

3409
02:12:29,020 --> 02:12:31,020
augmenté de 3,5%, la

3410
02:12:31,020 --> 02:12:32,020
tarification pour le non

3411
02:12:32,020 --> 02:12:33,020
résidentiel était bien en

3412
02:12:33,020 --> 02:12:35,020
fonction d'un écart de 140% du

3413
02:12:35,020 --> 02:12:37,020
tarif résidentiel. Les

3414
02:12:37,020 --> 02:12:38,020
modifications apportées au

3415
02:12:38,020 --> 02:12:39,020
projet de règlement depuis son

3416
02:12:39,020 --> 02:12:40,020
dépôt le 5 septembre dernier

3417
02:12:40,020 --> 02:12:42,020
sont les suivantes: modification

3418
02:12:42,020 --> 02:12:44,020
du tarif pour la location d'un

3419
02:12:44,020 --> 02:12:45,020
espaces de stationnement public

3420
02:12:45,020 --> 02:12:47,020
de 5 à 10 dollars, modification

3421
02:12:47,020 --> 02:12:48,020
du terme événements spéciaux

3422
02:12:48,020 --> 02:12:50,020
pour événement nécessitant des

3423
02:12:50,020 --> 02:12:51,020
ressources de la ville, ajouté

3424
02:12:51,020 --> 02:12:52,020
une section portant sur les

3425
02:12:52,020 --> 02:12:54,020
permis pour colporteur, ajouté

3426
02:12:54,020 --> 02:12:55,020
une section portant sur les

3427
02:12:55,020 --> 02:12:57,020
permis pour distribution de

3428
02:12:57,020 --> 02:12:58,020
matériel publicitaire, ajoute de

3429
02:12:58,020 --> 02:13:01,080
la ligne cinq virgule 7,3 pour

3430
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:02,080
les heures supplémentaires,

3431
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:05,080
ajoute de la ligne 5,7 virgule

3432
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:06,080
5,9, préparation pour la régate,

3433
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:08,080
un quart de deux semaines.

3434
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:09,080
Retrait de la catégorie et dix à

3435
02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:11,080
la ligne cinq virgule 8,5. Ajout

3436
02:13:11,080 --> 02:13:13,080
de la ligne cinq virgule

3437
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:14,080
(---)

3438
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:15,080
comme Jeunesse de 11 à 14 ans,

3439
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:17,080
une fois par semaine. Ajoute des

3440
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:18,080
lignes 5,5

3441
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:19,080
(---)

3442
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:21,080
l'équipe de natation non

3443
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:22,080
compétitif résidents et six

3444
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:24,080
virgule 5,3 points virgule

3445
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:25,080
quatre,

3446
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:26,080
(---)

3447
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:28,080
pour les non-résidents.

3448
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:31,080
>> 5.10 Adoption without

3449
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:32,080
modification of a by-law

3450
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:33,080
decreeing a long-term borrowing

3451
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:34,080
and capital expenditures for

3452
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:35,080
works regarding parks, green

3453
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:36,080
spaces, shorelines, bike paths

3454
02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:37,080
and sports fields for a total of

3455
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:40,080
$ 1,635,000. More specifically

3456
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:42,080
for the construction

3457
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:43,080
reconstruction of development

3458
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:45,080
and redevelopment and

3459
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:46,080
refurbishment's -- retaining

3460
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:47,080
walls, drinking fountains,

3461
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:49,080
street furniture, playground

3462
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,080
equipment, bike paths, fences,

3463
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:54,080
sports fields, relaxation areas,

3464
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:56,080
playgrounds as well as elaborate

3465
02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:58,080
specifically assigned to these

3466
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:00,040
projects at various locations in

3467
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:01,040
the residential sector. The

3468
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:03,040
amount to be financed will be

3469
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,040
reimbursed by tax money on the

3470
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:08,040
entire municipality based on --

3471
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:10,040
over a 20-year period.

3472
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:13,040
>> For 5.8 to 5.10, do I have a

3473
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:16,040
mover? - Oui, Bruno Tremblay,

3474
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,040
district six.

3475
02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:19,040
>> And a seconder?

3476
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,040
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3477
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:25,040
>> All in favour? - Merci! 5.11

3478
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:27,040
Adoption sans modification d'un

3479
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:28,040
règlement décrétant un emprunt à

3480
02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:29,040
long terme et une dépense en

3481
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:30,040
immobilisations pour des travaux

3482
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:31,040
d'infrastructures municipales en

3483
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:32,040
divers endroits pour un montant

3484
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:36,040
de 2 555 000 $. Travaux de

3485
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:37,040
construction reconstruction,

3486
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:38,040
réflexions, réhabilitation de

3487
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:40,040
trottoirs, bordure, balle de

3488
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:41,040
béton services, service de type

3489
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:44,040
conduit au, frigo, Santerre

3490
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:45,040
pluviales, raccordement de

3491
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:46,040
services, Fondation de, rue

3492
02:14:46,040 --> 02:14:48,040
pavage, sur éclairage routier,

3493
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:49,040
travailler travaux connexes à

3494
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:50,040
divers endroits ici que la

3495
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:51,040
main-d'oeuvre affectées

3496
02:14:51,040 --> 02:14:52,040
spécifiquement à ces projets. Le

3497
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:53,040
montant financier sera

3498
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:54,040
remboursée par le biais d'une

3499
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:55,040
taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la

3500
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,040
municipalité sur la base de la

3501
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,040
valeur foncière. La valeur

3502
02:14:58,040 --> 02:15:00,000
foncière des immeubles imposants

3503
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,000
les se sur une période de 20

3504
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,000
ans... 5.13 Adoption sans

3505
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:05,000
modification d'un règlement

3506
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:06,000
décrétant un emprunt à long

3507
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:07,000
terme et une dépense en

3508
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:08,000
immobilisations pour des travaux

3509
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:09,000
électriques à divers endroits

3510
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:10,000
pour un montant total de 4 855

3511
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:11,000
000 $.

3512
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:12,000
>> 5.12 Adoption without

3513
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:13,000
modification of a by-law

3514
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:14,000
decreeing a long-term borrowing

3515
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:15,000
and capital expenditures for

3516
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:16,000
various works on municipal

3517
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:17,000
buildings for a total of $

3518
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:18,000
3,690,000. Various works being

3519
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:19,000
roofing, foundation envelopes,

3520
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:20,000
doors, windows, masonry,

3521
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:21,000
balcony, staircases, handrails,

3522
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:23,000
paint, ceramic, floor coverings,

3523
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:24,000
supply and installation,

3524
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:26,000
replacement and upgrading

3525
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:28,000
mechanical, electrical HVAC,

3526
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:30,000
plumbing, fire protections, --

3527
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:31,000
refitting, relayed it works in

3528
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:32,000
connection with the asset

3529
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:34,000
management plan as well as

3530
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:36,000
labour specific -- idea how to

3531
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:38,000
be financed will be reimbursed

3532
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:40,000
by tax on the entire

3533
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:41,000
municipality based on the

3534
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:43,000
property value of tax over a

3535
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:46,000
20-year period.

3536
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:57,000
Travaux de remplacement de

3537
02:15:57,000 --> 02:15:58,000
réfection d'éclairage, de

3538
02:15:58,000 --> 02:15:59,000
luminaires qu'offre la

3539
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:00,060
circulation mise aux noms qu'on

3540
02:16:00,060 --> 02:16:02,060
du filage, système de contrôle,

3541
02:16:02,060 --> 02:16:03,060
système UPS et divers travaux

3542
02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:05,060
connexes ainsi que la

3543
02:16:05,060 --> 02:16:06,060
main-d'oeuvre associait ces

3544
02:16:06,060 --> 02:16:07,060
projets. Le montant financier

3545
02:16:07,060 --> 02:16:08,060
sera remboursée par le biais

3546
02:16:08,060 --> 02:16:09,060
d'une taxe imposée à l'ensemble

3547
02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:11,060
de la municipalité. Sur la base

3548
02:16:11,060 --> 02:16:12,060
de la valeur foncière des

3549
02:16:12,060 --> 02:16:13,060
immeubles imposables est et ce

3550
02:16:13,060 --> 02:16:16,060
sur une période de 20.

3551
02:16:16,060 --> 02:16:17,060
Pour cinq points 11 à cinq

3552
02:16:17,060 --> 02:16:18,060
ghetto...

3553
02:16:18,060 --> 02:16:19,060
>> 5.14 Adoption without

3554
02:16:19,060 --> 02:16:20,060
modification of a by-law

3555
02:16:20,060 --> 02:16:21,060
decreeing a long-term borrowing

3556
02:16:21,060 --> 02:16:22,060
and capital expenditures for

3557
02:16:22,060 --> 02:16:23,060
professional services and major

3558
02:16:23,060 --> 02:16:24,060
municipal infrastructure works

3559
02:16:24,060 --> 02:16:26,060
in various locations for a total

3560
02:16:26,060 --> 02:16:29,060
amount of $ 6,285,000.

3561
02:16:29,060 --> 02:16:30,060
Professional services and

3562
02:16:30,060 --> 02:16:31,060
construction, reconstruction,

3563
02:16:31,060 --> 02:16:33,060
repair, rehabilitation of

3564
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:34,060
sidewalks, concrete slabs,

3565
02:16:34,060 --> 02:16:37,060
malls, concrete structures,

3566
02:16:37,060 --> 02:16:39,060
overpasses, services for water

3567
02:16:39,060 --> 02:16:41,060
mains, sanitary sewer and storms

3568
02:16:41,060 --> 02:16:43,060
who are. Street foundations,

3569
02:16:43,060 --> 02:16:44,060
paving, road, lighting related

3570
02:16:44,060 --> 02:16:46,060
works as well as labour

3571
02:16:46,060 --> 02:16:47,060
specifically assigned to these

3572
02:16:47,060 --> 02:16:49,060
projects and -- will be

3573
02:16:49,060 --> 02:16:50,060
reimbursed by tax money on the

3574
02:16:50,060 --> 02:16:52,060
entire municipality based on the

3575
02:16:52,060 --> 02:16:54,060
property value of taxable --

3576
02:16:54,060 --> 02:16:59,060
over a 20-year period. - Paul

3577
02:17:01,020 --> 02:17:05,020
Bissonnette, district.

3578
02:17:05,020 --> 02:17:08,020
>> All in favour? 6.1 Accorder

3579
02:17:08,020 --> 02:17:09,020
des soutiens financiers à divers

3580
02:17:09,020 --> 02:17:10,020
organismes sans but lucratif

3581
02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:11,020
pour un montant total de 63 600

3582
02:17:11,020 --> 02:17:16,020
$. La Ville accorde un soutien

3583
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:17,020
financier non financier à plus

3584
02:17:17,020 --> 02:17:19,020
de 20 organismes offrant des

3585
02:17:19,020 --> 02:17:20,020
services sur le territoire de la

3586
02:17:20,020 --> 02:17:24,020
ville.

3587
02:17:24,020 --> 02:17:26,020
>> 6.2 Request to the City of

3588
02:17:26,020 --> 02:17:27,020
Montreal to maintain

3589
02:17:27,020 --> 02:17:29,020
fluoridation of drinking water.

3590
02:17:29,020 --> 02:17:31,020
So instead of reading what we

3591
02:17:31,020 --> 02:17:32,020
prepared, I was requested to

3592
02:17:32,020 --> 02:17:34,020
read the resolution itself.

3593
02:17:34,020 --> 02:17:35,020
>> Yes, if you don't mind.

3594
02:17:35,020 --> 02:17:37,020
>> No problem. As an agreement

3595
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:38,020
between the City of

3596
02:17:38,020 --> 02:17:39,020
Pointe-Claire, the City of

3597
02:17:39,020 --> 02:17:41,020
Montréal into December -- the

3598
02:17:41,020 --> 02:17:42,020
transfer of activities related

3599
02:17:42,020 --> 02:17:44,020
to the operation of the

3600
02:17:44,020 --> 02:17:45,020
Pointe-Claire drinking water

3601
02:17:45,020 --> 02:17:47,020
production plant. Whereas this

3602
02:17:47,020 --> 02:17:49,020
agreement was signed since under

3603
02:17:49,020 --> 02:17:51,020
article 16 and 19, paragraph,

3604
02:17:51,020 --> 02:17:54,020
five of the -- municipal powers

3605
02:17:54,020 --> 02:17:57,020
in service in -- a certain

3606
02:17:57,020 --> 02:17:58,020
suburb -- and the jurisdiction

3607
02:17:58,020 --> 02:18:00,080
of the agglomeration whereas the

3608
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:02,080
drinking water consumed by the

3609
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:03,080
population of Pointe-Claire is

3610
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:04,080
produced at the Pointe-Claire

3611
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:05,080
filtration plant. Whereas the

3612
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:06,080
drinking water produced by the

3613
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:09,080
Pointe-Claire and Dorval

3614
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:10,080
filtration plants have been

3615
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:11,080
fluoride for many decades.

3616
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:13,080
Whereas scientific studies on

3617
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:15,080
the public health benefits of

3618
02:18:15,080 --> 02:18:16,080
fluoridation drinking water are

3619
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:18,080
widely recognized. Whereas the

3620
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:19,080
fluoridation of drinking water

3621
02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:22,080
is a measure recommended by the

3622
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:24,080
-- because it contributes to the

3623
02:18:24,080 --> 02:18:26,080
populations oral health and

3624
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,080
reduces social inequities in

3625
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:30,080
health. Whereas the City of

3626
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:32,080
Montréal plans without any prior

3627
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:33,080
public consultations to end

3628
02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:35,080
water fluoridation by the end of

3629
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:38,080
2024, this decision was taken

3630
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:40,080
unilaterally without consulting

3631
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:43,080
the effected reconstituted city,

3632
02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:45,080
whereas the decision to stop

3633
02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:49,080
flow writing of -- fluoride

3634
02:18:49,080 --> 02:18:50,080
eating, drinking water without

3635
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:53,080
consulting citizens -- is an

3636
02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:55,080
admission of democratic failure

3637
02:18:55,080 --> 02:18:57,080
in the workings of municipal

3638
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:58,080
authorities and the lack of

3639
02:18:58,080 --> 02:18:59,080
respect for the population.

3640
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:00,040
Whereas the City of

3641
02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:01,040
Pointe-Claire has never

3642
02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:03,040
expressed the desire to stop

3643
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:05,040
floor writing its drinking

3644
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:07,040
water. It will be moved and

3645
02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:10,040
seconded to express import for

3646
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:11,040
maintaining fluoridation of

3647
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:12,040
drinking water, to ask the City

3648
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:13,040
of Montréal to review its

3649
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:15,040
decision to stop fluoride eating

3650
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:17,040
drinking water, to require the

3651
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:18,040
City of Montréal to hold a

3652
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:20,040
public consultation to allow

3653
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:21,040
considered citizens to express

3654
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:23,040
themselves and for this

3655
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:25,040
resolution to many people,

3656
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:29,040
Valérie Plante of -- executive

3657
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:30,040
committee of the City of

3658
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:33,040
Montréal, the cowboy,'s

3659
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:34,040
executive committee Montréal,

3660
02:19:34,040 --> 02:19:38,040
Dr. Luc Boileau, -- Dr. midway,

3661
02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:40,040
for the Montréal region,

3662
02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:41,040
Cassandra, the minister of

3663
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:44,040
Health, Gregory Kelly, MNA for

3664
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:45,040
Jacques-Cartier, mayors of

3665
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:50,040
reconstituted cities.

3666
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:53,040
(---)

3667
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:54,040
Le vin descende de 1013

3668
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:55,040
concernant le transfert des

3669
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:56,040
activités liées à l'exploitation

3670
02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:57,040
de l'usine de production de

3671
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:59,040
potable de Pointe-Claire,

3672
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:00,000
attendu que cette convention a

3673
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:01,000
été signée puisqu'en vertu des

3674
02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:03,000
articles 16 et 19, cinquième...

3675
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:05,000
paragraphe 5 de la Loi sur

3676
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:06,000
l'exercice de certaines

3677
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:08,000
compétences municipales dans

3678
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:10,000
certaines agglomérations,

3679
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:11,000
l'alimentation en eau est en

3680
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:12,000
(---)

3681
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:13,000
Grosmaire action. L'eau potable

3682
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:15,000
consommée par l'application de

3683
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:16,000
Pointe-Claire est produite à

3684
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:17,000
l'usine de plus de rations de

3685
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:18,000
Pointe-Claire. Attendu que l'eau

3686
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:19,000
potable produite par les usines

3687
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:20,000
de filtration de Pointe-Claire

3688
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:22,000
et Dorval

3689
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:23,000
(inaudible)

3690
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:24,000
depuis de nombreuses décennies.

3691
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:25,000
Attendu que les études

3692
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:26,000
scientifiques sur les bienfaits

3693
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:28,000
de la fluoration de l'eau,

3694
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,000
potable sur la santé publique

3695
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:31,000
sur... soit largement reconnue.

3696
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:32,000
Attendu que le fluoration de

3697
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:33,000
l'eau potable est une mesure

3698
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:35,000
recommandée par la direction

3699
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:36,000
régionale de la santé publique.

3700
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:38,000
Elle contribue à la santé

3701
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:39,000
bucco-dentaire de la population

3702
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:40,000
et réduit les inégalités

3703
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:42,000
sociales en matière de santé.

3704
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:43,000
Rendu... attendu que la Ville de

3705
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:44,000
Montréal

3706
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:45,000
(---)

3707
02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:46,000
préalable de mettre fin à la

3708
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:47,000
fluoration de l'eau d'ici la fin

3709
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:48,000
de l'année 2024. Cette décision

3710
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:51,000
a été pris sans consultation

3711
02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:52,000
auprès des villes reconstituée

3712
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:53,000
concernés. Attendu que la

3713
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:54,000
décision de cesser la fluoration

3714
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,000
de l'eau potable sans

3715
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:58,000
consultation citoyenne, ni

3716
02:20:58,000 --> 02:20:59,000
consultation auprès des élus de

3717
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:00,060
la Ville de Pointe-Claire est un

3718
02:21:00,060 --> 02:21:01,060
constat d'échec démocratique du

3719
02:21:01,060 --> 02:21:03,060
fonctionnement des instances

3720
02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:04,060
municipales et un manque de

3721
02:21:04,060 --> 02:21:08,060
respect envers la population.

3722
02:21:08,060 --> 02:21:09,060
Attendu que la Ville de

3723
02:21:09,060 --> 02:21:10,060
Pointe-Claire n'a jamais exprimé

3724
02:21:10,060 --> 02:21:11,060
la volonté de cesser la

3725
02:21:11,060 --> 02:21:13,060
fluoration de l'eau potable.

3726
02:21:13,060 --> 02:21:14,060
Très résolu de demander à

3727
02:21:14,060 --> 02:21:15,060
l'appel de Montréal de réviser

3728
02:21:15,060 --> 02:21:17,060
sa décision... d'exprimer le

3729
02:21:17,060 --> 02:21:18,060
soutien au maintien de la

3730
02:21:18,060 --> 02:21:20,060
fluoration de l'eau potable, de

3731
02:21:20,060 --> 02:21:21,060
demander à la Ville de Montréal

3732
02:21:21,060 --> 02:21:22,060
va réviser sa décision de cesser

3733
02:21:22,060 --> 02:21:24,060
la fluoration de l'eau potable.

3734
02:21:24,060 --> 02:21:25,060
D'exiger à la Ville de Montréal

3735
02:21:25,060 --> 02:21:26,060
de tenir une consultation

3736
02:21:26,060 --> 02:21:27,060
publique afin de permettre aux

3737
02:21:27,060 --> 02:21:29,060
citoyens concernés de

3738
02:21:29,060 --> 02:21:30,060
s'exprimer. J'ai une copie de

3739
02:21:30,060 --> 02:21:31,060
cette résolution soit acheminée

3740
02:21:31,060 --> 02:21:32,060
à Valérie Plante, mairesse de

3741
02:21:32,060 --> 02:21:34,060
Montréal.

3742
02:21:34,060 --> 02:21:35,060
(inaudible)

3743
02:21:35,060 --> 02:21:37,060
Responsable de l'eau au comité

3744
02:21:37,060 --> 02:21:38,060
exécutif de la Ville de

3745
02:21:38,060 --> 02:21:39,060
Montréal. Le grand point,

3746
02:21:39,060 --> 02:21:41,060
président du comité exécutif,

3747
02:21:41,060 --> 02:21:42,060
docteur Luc Boileau, directeur

3748
02:21:42,060 --> 02:21:43,060
national de la santé publique,

3749
02:21:43,060 --> 02:21:45,060
docteure Milner nos Rouyn,

3750
02:21:45,060 --> 02:21:46,060
directrice régionale de la santé

3751
02:21:46,060 --> 02:21:47,060
publique de la région de

3752
02:21:47,060 --> 02:21:48,060
Montréal, Christian Dubé,

3753
02:21:48,060 --> 02:21:50,060
ministre de la santé, Gregory

3754
02:21:50,060 --> 02:21:52,060
Kenny, député de Jacques-Cartier

3755
02:21:52,060 --> 02:21:53,060
maires et mairesses veulent

3756
02:21:53,060 --> 02:21:55,060
reconstituer.

3757
02:21:55,060 --> 02:21:57,060
- Merci madame Thibault et

3758
02:21:57,060 --> 02:21:58,060
madame

3759
02:21:58,060 --> 02:21:59,060
(inaudible)

3760
02:21:59,060 --> 02:22:00,020
. I believe it is my about done

3761
02:22:00,020 --> 02:22:02,020
of itch.

3762
02:22:02,020 --> 02:22:07,020
Pour 6,1 à 6,2...

3763
02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:09,020
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3764
02:22:09,020 --> 02:22:11,020
>> And a seconder?

3765
02:22:11,020 --> 02:22:13,020
>> --

3766
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:15,020
>> I would like to speak to 6.2.

3767
02:22:15,020 --> 02:22:19,020
I have some problems with 6.2

3768
02:22:19,020 --> 02:22:21,020
because it is not doing exactly

3769
02:22:21,020 --> 02:22:23,020
what the mayor said we were

3770
02:22:23,020 --> 02:22:25,020
going to do. And that is to ask

3771
02:22:25,020 --> 02:22:27,020
for a cautionary pause from the

3772
02:22:27,020 --> 02:22:29,020
City of Montréal while we

3773
02:22:29,020 --> 02:22:30,020
investigate sanctions, making a

3774
02:22:30,020 --> 02:22:32,020
statement that we are -- the

3775
02:22:32,020 --> 02:22:34,020
City has come to a conclusion

3776
02:22:34,020 --> 02:22:36,020
that ahead of the public

3777
02:22:36,020 --> 02:22:38,020
consultations, our own public

3778
02:22:38,020 --> 02:22:41,020
consultations, we should

3779
02:22:41,020 --> 02:22:44,020
continue the fluoridation. A

3780
02:22:44,020 --> 02:22:47,020
young man in my district went

3781
02:22:47,020 --> 02:22:49,020
out the door to door and got

3782
02:22:49,020 --> 02:22:52,020
2000 signatures to support the

3783
02:22:52,020 --> 02:22:55,020
notion of seizing fluoridation.

3784
02:22:55,020 --> 02:22:57,020
I can't ignore that. I will talk

3785
02:22:57,020 --> 02:22:59,020
about citizen participation,

3786
02:22:59,020 --> 02:23:02,080
these are 2000 signatures -- not

3787
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:04,080
a click on the internet but he

3788
02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:08,080
actually went door to door to

3789
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:10,080
ensure that his process was

3790
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:12,080
honest and up and up, I went out

3791
02:23:12,080 --> 02:23:14,080
with him. I didn't go up to the

3792
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:16,080
door with him. I stayed on the

3793
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:18,080
street and watched him. I was

3794
02:23:18,080 --> 02:23:19,080
really surprised at how many

3795
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:23,080
people he got yeses. From 2000

3796
02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:27,080
yeses, he saw 2500 doors. From

3797
02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:29,080
the sampling I saw, one night,

3798
02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:31,080
two hours walking with him up

3799
02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:32,080
and down the street, most people

3800
02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:36,080
signed his petition. I have a

3801
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:39,080
great deal of difficulty that we

3802
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:40,080
ignore this petition. The City

3803
02:23:40,080 --> 02:23:42,080
of Montréal did not ignore. The

3804
02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:45,080
City of Montréal has been -- has

3805
02:23:45,080 --> 02:23:48,080
told everybody for seven years

3806
02:23:48,080 --> 02:23:49,080
now that they are going to shut

3807
02:23:49,080 --> 02:23:52,080
down the fluoridation as soon as

3808
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:54,080
the equipment broke down. This

3809
02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:56,080
petition that this young man

3810
02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,080
organized from our citizens gave

3811
02:23:58,080 --> 02:23:59,080
some legitimacy to the City of

3812
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:01,040
Montréal, perhaps jumping ahead

3813
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:03,040
of that schedule and shedding

3814
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:05,040
fluoridation down before they

3815
02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:08,040
actually had a mechanical

3816
02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:09,040
problem. They said they were

3817
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:12,040
going to do it. But I find that

3818
02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:13,040
-- I will vote for it because

3819
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:15,040
I'm not gonna be the lone voice

3820
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:16,040
fighting on the Hill against all

3821
02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:18,040
my colleagues. I just have some

3822
02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:22,040
reservations about it. I

3823
02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:23,040
question that we pass a

3824
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:26,040
resolution like this where we

3825
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:28,040
make no -- recognition about a

3826
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:29,040
petition that's out there. 2000

3827
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:31,040
signatures were submitted to the

3828
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:34,040
City, each Councillor got it.

3829
02:24:34,040 --> 02:24:36,040
Plus the city. The names could

3830
02:24:36,040 --> 02:24:39,040
all be verified and confirmed

3831
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:41,040
that they are valid citizens. I

3832
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:43,040
just wanted to say that. There

3833
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:47,040
is another side. And that I am

3834
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:49,040
not very content, let's put it

3835
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:50,040
that way, with the way this

3836
02:24:50,040 --> 02:24:53,040
thing is going in. But not

3837
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:54,040
sufficiently to vote against all

3838
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:55,040
my colleagues. So I will support

3839
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:57,040
this resolution when it comes to

3840
02:24:57,040 --> 02:24:59,040
a vote momentarily.

3841
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:00,000
>> Just to reiterate the

3842
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,000
position of the ASM and the way

3843
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:06,000
I responded to the young man

3844
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:07,000
that Councillor Cowan is

3845
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:09,000
referring to. We are not

3846
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:10,000
scientists. We are not making

3847
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:12,000
this decision. We leave this in

3848
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:14,000
the hand -- in the hands of

3849
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:16,000
science. And we have

3850
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:17,000
professionals who know what

3851
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:18,000
they're doing -- what they are

3852
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:20,000
doing and we are not pro or

3853
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:21,000
against. But we maintain the

3854
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:22,000
status quo and let's go with the

3855
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:24,000
science. That has always been

3856
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:26,000
the answer. So, those in favour?

3857
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:28,000
>> Mister Mayor, a comment.

3858
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:29,000
>> Go ahead.

3859
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:31,000
>> In reference to the comment

3860
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:33,000
from Mr. Cowan, I'm not offended

3861
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:34,000
at all if you were to vote

3862
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:38,000
against this. I'm looking at the

3863
02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:39,000
resolution, from what is saying,

3864
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:41,000
I'm considering a resolution and

3865
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:45,000
probably will vote for it. But I

3866
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:46,000
wouldn't in any way feel that

3867
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:48,000
you would be voting against

3868
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:49,000
myself or other of our

3869
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:51,000
colleagues here based on your

3870
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:55,000
interpretation of the proposal

3871
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:56,000
that we are looking at. I just

3872
02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:58,000
wanted to reassure you on that

3873
02:25:58,000 --> 02:25:59,000
notion.

3874
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:00,060
>> Thank you. But I'm more

3875
02:26:00,060 --> 02:26:01,060
concerned about the way Montréal

3876
02:26:01,060 --> 02:26:04,060
will interpret this. Not my

3877
02:26:04,060 --> 02:26:06,060
colleagues.

3878
02:26:06,060 --> 02:26:09,060
>> Well, we're not alone. It's

3879
02:26:09,060 --> 02:26:11,060
essentially all the West Island

3880
02:26:11,060 --> 02:26:12,060
municipalities. Montréal will

3881
02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:13,060
get a united front on this one.

3882
02:26:13,060 --> 02:26:15,060
And we are just part of it. And

3883
02:26:15,060 --> 02:26:17,060
that is the ASM's decision. And

3884
02:26:17,060 --> 02:26:19,060
for the reason I just -- all

3885
02:26:19,060 --> 02:26:24,060
those in favour? Against? Okay.

3886
02:26:29,060 --> 02:26:30,060
7.1 Déposer le procès-verbal de

3887
02:26:30,060 --> 02:26:31,060
la réunion du 4 septembre 2024

3888
02:26:31,060 --> 02:26:35,060
du Comité consultatif jeunesse.

3889
02:26:35,060 --> 02:26:36,060
>> 7.2 File the minutes of the

3890
02:26:36,060 --> 02:26:37,060
September 26, 2024, meeting of

3891
02:26:37,060 --> 02:26:38,060
the Pointe-Claire Public Library

3892
02:26:38,060 --> 02:26:39,060
Advisory Board.

3893
02:26:39,060 --> 02:26:40,060
7.3 Déposer et approuver le

3894
02:26:40,060 --> 02:26:41,060
procès-verbal de la réunion du

3895
02:26:41,060 --> 02:26:42,060
comité de circulation du 8

3896
02:26:42,060 --> 02:26:44,060
octobre 2024. Excusez-moi, c'est

3897
02:26:44,060 --> 02:26:45,060
écrit dans l'agenda déposé et

3898
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:47,060
approuvé. On devrait lire

3899
02:26:47,060 --> 02:26:49,060
uniquement déposé. Déposer le

3900
02:26:49,060 --> 02:26:50,060
procès-verbal de la réunion du

3901
02:26:50,060 --> 02:26:51,060
comité de circulation du 8

3902
02:26:51,060 --> 02:26:56,060
octobre 2024. >> In English,

3903
02:26:56,060 --> 02:26:57,060
file and not approved. Just file

3904
02:26:57,060 --> 02:26:59,060
the minutes of the meeting on

3905
02:26:59,060 --> 02:27:03,020
October 8th, 2024.

3906
02:27:04,020 --> 02:27:06,020
>> 7.4 Appoint a member to the

3907
02:27:06,020 --> 02:27:07,020
Board of Directors of the

3908
02:27:07,020 --> 02:27:08,020
Pointe-Claire Canoe Kayak Club

3909
02:27:08,020 --> 02:27:10,020
Inc. Monsieur Jacques Christophe

3910
02:27:10,020 --> 02:27:11,020
Poitiers... oh

3911
02:27:11,020 --> 02:27:12,020
10.1 Déposer la liste des

3912
02:27:12,020 --> 02:27:13,020
amendements budgétaires et le

3913
02:27:13,020 --> 02:27:14,020
registre des chèques pour la

3914
02:27:14,020 --> 02:27:15,020
période du 23 septembre 2024 au

3915
02:27:15,020 --> 02:27:16,020
25 octobre 2024. Is appointed

3916
02:27:16,020 --> 02:27:17,020
for a three-year mandate.

3917
02:27:17,020 --> 02:27:18,020
>> 7.4, do I have a mover?

3918
02:27:18,020 --> 02:27:19,020
>> Paul Bissonnette, district.

3919
02:27:19,020 --> 02:27:20,020
To

3920
02:27:20,020 --> 02:27:21,020
>> A seconder?

3921
02:27:21,020 --> 02:27:22,020
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3922
02:27:22,020 --> 02:27:27,020
>> All in favour?

3923
02:27:32,020 --> 02:27:34,020
>> 10.2 File the comparative

3924
02:27:34,020 --> 02:27:35,020
financial statement and

3925
02:27:35,020 --> 02:27:36,020
projected statement. The

3926
02:27:36,020 --> 02:27:37,020
comparative financial statements

3927
02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:39,020
as of -- as well as the

3928
02:27:39,020 --> 02:27:40,020
projected statements as of

3929
02:27:40,020 --> 02:27:42,020
December 31st, 2024.

3930
02:27:42,020 --> 02:27:43,020
10.3 Octroyer un contrat pour

3931
02:27:43,020 --> 02:27:44,020
l'acquisition des licences pour

3932
02:27:44,020 --> 02:27:46,020
les logiciels Abnormal Security,

3933
02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:47,020
à ITI INC., Pour un montant

3934
02:27:47,020 --> 02:27:50,020
total de 98 868,44 $, taxes

3935
02:27:50,020 --> 02:27:55,020
incluses.

3936
02:27:59,020 --> 02:28:01,080
Détecter... arrêtent l'ensemble

3937
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:02,080
des. Attaques

3938
02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:03,080
(---)

3939
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:04,080
la boutonnage du dandinait, en

3940
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:05,080
compromission de la messages

3941
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:07,080
d'entreprises, fraude à la

3942
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:08,080
facture de fournisseur, etc....

3943
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:09,080
Pour 10,3 10,4... 11.1 Approuver

3944
02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:10,080
le calendrier des séances

3945
02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:11,080
ordinaires du conseil pour

3946
02:28:11,080 --> 02:28:12,080
l'année 2025. >> 10.4 Award a

3947
02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:13,080
contract for annual support and

3948
02:28:13,080 --> 02:28:14,080
maintenance of Kronos equipment

3949
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:15,080
and software

3950
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:16,080
(IP240018)

3951
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:17,080
, to KRONOS CANADIAN SYSTEMS

3952
02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:18,080
INC.

3953
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:19,080
(UKG)

3954
02:28:19,080 --> 02:28:21,080
, For a total amount of $

3955
02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:24,080
50,703.49, taxes included. Gross

3956
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:26,080
is the software that manages

3957
02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:28,080
working hours for all of city

3958
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:32,080
employees. Do I have a mover?

3959
02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:35,080
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

3960
02:28:35,080 --> 02:28:36,080
district three.

3961
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:37,080
>> And a seconder?

3962
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:38,080
>> Tara Stainforth, district

3963
02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:39,080
four.

3964
02:28:39,080 --> 02:28:41,080
>> All in favour?

3965
02:28:46,080 --> 02:28:47,080
>> For 11 point, when do I have

3966
02:28:47,080 --> 02:28:48,080
a mover?

3967
02:28:48,080 --> 02:28:50,080
Bruno Tremblay, district six. >>

3968
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:51,080
And a seconder?

3969
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,080
Claude Cousineau, district un.

3970
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:58,080
>> All in favour?

3971
02:28:59,080 --> 02:29:00,040
>> 12.1 File the list of

3972
02:29:00,040 --> 02:29:01,040
delegated staff changes for the

3973
02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:04,040
month of November 2024. 12.2

3974
02:29:04,040 --> 02:29:05,040
Approuver la liste des

3975
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:06,040
changements au personnel par

3976
02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:07,040
décisions non déléguées au 5

3977
02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:11,040
novembre 2024.

3978
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:13,040
>> For 12.2, do I have a mover?

3979
02:29:13,040 --> 02:29:14,040
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

3980
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:16,040
>> And he seconder?

3981
02:29:16,040 --> 02:29:18,040
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

3982
02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:23,040
>> All in favour?

3983
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:27,040
>> 14.1 Exercise the renewal

3984
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:28,040
option provided for in the

3985
02:29:28,040 --> 02:29:29,040
contract entered into with FOCUS

3986
02:29:29,040 --> 02:29:30,040
BY TELUS COMMUNICATIONS INC.,

3987
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:31,040
For the years 2025 and 2026, in

3988
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:34,040
the amount of $ 143,703.68,

3989
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:36,040
taxes included for the purchase

3990
02:29:36,040 --> 02:29:39,040
and the implementation of a

3991
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:40,040
telemetry

3992
02:29:40,040 --> 02:29:41,040
(GPS)

3993
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:42,040
system for fleet management and

3994
02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:45,040
for the acquisition and

3995
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:46,040
implantation of a fuel

3996
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:47,040
management system. 14.2 Se

3997
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:48,040
prévaloir de l'option de

3998
02:29:48,040 --> 02:29:49,040
renouvellement prévue au contrat

3999
02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:50,040
intervenu avec SIMO MANAGEMENT

4000
02:29:50,040 --> 02:29:51,040
INC. Et AQUA DATA INC., Pour

4001
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:52,040
l'année 2025, au montant de 146

4002
02:29:52,040 --> 02:29:53,040
581,52 $, taxes incluses, pour

4003
02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:54,040
le diagnostic du réseau

4004
02:29:54,040 --> 02:29:57,040
d'aqueduc et la mise à jour du

4005
02:29:57,040 --> 02:29:58,040
programme de rinçage

4006
02:29:58,040 --> 02:30:02,000
unidirectionnel. Dans le but de

4007
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:05,000
planifie la mise à niveau et la

4008
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:06,000
gestion des composantes du

4009
02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:07,000
réseau d'eau potable, les

4010
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:09,000
services des Travaux publics et

4011
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:10,000
(inaudible)

4012
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:12,000
mandate de films spécialisés

4013
02:30:12,000 --> 02:30:13,000
pour effectuer le diagnostic du

4014
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:15,000
réseau d'aqueduc. L'inspection

4015
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:17,000
des poteaux d'incendie et

4016
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:18,000
d'exécution du programme de

4017
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:20,000
Reyes rinçage une directionnelle

4018
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:21,000
ainsi que la mise à jour des

4019
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:22,000
informations recueillies lors du

4020
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,000
diagnostic du réseau d'aqueduc

4021
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:28,000
dans la base de données.

4022
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:29,000
>> 14.3 Exercise the renewal

4023
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:30,000
option provided for in the

4024
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:31,000
contract entered into with KSG

4025
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:32,000
INC., For the year 2025, in the

4026
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:36,000
amount of $ 48 806,89, taxes

4027
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:37,000
included for fencing repair

4028
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:39,000
works on the territory of the

4029
02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:41,000
City of Pointe-Claire the

4030
02:30:41,000 --> 02:30:43,000
contract will re-cover the

4031
02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:45,000
repair of various types of

4032
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:46,000
existing fences and the

4033
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:47,000
installation of new fences

4034
02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:49,000
within the city. Pour 14,1

4035
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:51,000
14,3... 14.4 Se prévaloir de

4036
02:30:51,000 --> 02:30:52,000
l'option de renouvellement

4037
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:53,000
prévue au contrat intervenu avec

4038
02:30:53,000 --> 02:30:54,000
TECH-MIX, UNE DIVISION DE BAUVAL

4039
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:55,000
INC. Do I have a mover?

4040
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:56,000
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.

4041
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:57,000
>> Seconder?

4042
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:58,000
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

4043
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:00,060
>> All in favour?

4044
02:31:03,060 --> 02:31:05,060
, Pour l'année 2025, au montant

4045
02:31:05,060 --> 02:31:08,060
de 68 525,10 $, taxes incluses,

4046
02:31:08,060 --> 02:31:09,060
pour la fourniture et la

4047
02:31:09,060 --> 02:31:11,060
livraison sur demande de

4048
02:31:11,060 --> 02:31:12,060
l'asphalte tiède à viscosité

4049
02:31:12,060 --> 02:31:15,060
élevée incluant le polymère pour

4050
02:31:15,060 --> 02:31:17,060
utilisation hivernale. Durant

4051
02:31:17,060 --> 02:31:18,060
les périodes hivernales et

4052
02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:19,060
lorsque l'asphalte chaude n'est

4053
02:31:19,060 --> 02:31:21,060
pas disponible, l'asphalte tiède

4054
02:31:21,060 --> 02:31:23,060
est utilisée dans les travaux de

4055
02:31:23,060 --> 02:31:24,060
réparation des briques Atkins,

4056
02:31:24,060 --> 02:31:26,060
ni des poules et d'entretien de

4057
02:31:26,060 --> 02:31:28,060
la surface déchausser.

4058
02:31:30,060 --> 02:31:31,060
>> 14.5 Exercise the renewal

4059
02:31:31,060 --> 02:31:32,060
option provided for in the

4060
02:31:32,060 --> 02:31:34,060
contract entered into with COLAS

4061
02:31:34,060 --> 02:31:35,060
(formerly MELOCHE, DIVISION DE

4062
02:31:35,060 --> 02:31:36,060
SINTRA)

4063
02:31:36,060 --> 02:31:37,060
, for the year 2025, in the

4064
02:31:37,060 --> 02:31:42,060
amount of $ 166,403.89, taxes

4065
02:31:42,060 --> 02:31:43,060
included for the supply and the

4066
02:31:43,060 --> 02:31:44,060
delivery of various types of

4067
02:31:44,060 --> 02:31:47,060
stones. These types of stones

4068
02:31:47,060 --> 02:31:49,060
are required for maintenance

4069
02:31:49,060 --> 02:31:50,060
work on the cities

4070
02:31:50,060 --> 02:31:51,060
infrastructures.

4071
02:31:51,060 --> 02:31:52,060
14.6 Se prévaloir de l'option de

4072
02:31:52,060 --> 02:31:53,060
renouvellement prévue au contrat

4073
02:31:53,060 --> 02:31:54,060
intervenu avec TERRASSEMENT

4074
02:31:54,060 --> 02:31:55,060
TECHNIQue SYLVAIN LABRECQue INC.

4075
02:31:55,060 --> 02:31:57,060
, Pour l'année 2025, au montant

4076
02:31:57,060 --> 02:31:58,060
de 266 454,56 $, taxes incluses,

4077
02:31:58,060 --> 02:32:00,020
pour les travaux de plantation

4078
02:32:00,020 --> 02:32:05,020
et d'entretien d'arbres. Les

4079
02:32:05,020 --> 02:32:06,020
travaux consistent à effectuer

4080
02:32:06,020 --> 02:32:07,020
la plantation et l'entretien

4081
02:32:07,020 --> 02:32:10,020
d'armes de calibre, 40, 50

4082
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:11,020
millimètres pour une quantité

4083
02:32:11,020 --> 02:32:13,020
approximative de 650 arbres, le

4084
02:32:13,020 --> 02:32:14,020
long des rues, dans les parcs et

4085
02:32:14,020 --> 02:32:15,020
espaces verts et des boisés

4086
02:32:15,020 --> 02:32:17,020
naturels. Ce contrat comprend

4087
02:32:17,020 --> 02:32:19,020
une garantie ainsi que les

4088
02:32:19,020 --> 02:32:20,020
travaux d'arrosage et

4089
02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:22,020
d'entretien d'une durée de 200.

4090
02:32:25,020 --> 02:32:26,020
>> 14.7 Exercise the renewal

4091
02:32:26,020 --> 02:32:27,020
option provided for in the

4092
02:32:27,020 --> 02:32:28,020
contract entered into with

4093
02:32:28,020 --> 02:32:29,020
ROXBORO EXCAVATION INC., For the

4094
02:32:29,020 --> 02:32:33,020
year 2025, in the amount of $

4095
02:32:33,020 --> 02:32:37,020
552,796.93, taxes included for

4096
02:32:37,020 --> 02:32:38,020
the disposal of dry and

4097
02:32:38,020 --> 02:32:39,020
excavated materials. The public

4098
02:32:39,020 --> 02:32:40,020
works and buildings department

4099
02:32:40,020 --> 02:32:42,020
is responsible for disposing of

4100
02:32:42,020 --> 02:32:44,020
dry materials, excavated

4101
02:32:44,020 --> 02:32:45,020
materials and residues from

4102
02:32:45,020 --> 02:32:46,020
mechanical street sweeping

4103
02:32:46,020 --> 02:32:48,020
within the city. Dry and

4104
02:32:48,020 --> 02:32:49,020
excavate materials come from

4105
02:32:49,020 --> 02:32:51,020
repairs to aqueducts -- and

4106
02:32:51,020 --> 02:32:55,020
pavement maintenance. Pour 14,4

4107
02:32:55,020 --> 02:32:57,020
à 14,7... 14.8 Octroyer un

4108
02:32:57,020 --> 02:32:58,020
contrat pour la fourniture et la

4109
02:32:58,020 --> 02:32:59,020
livraison de chlorure de sodium

4110
02:32:59,020 --> 02:33:00,080
(sel traité de déglaçage des

4111
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:01,080
chaussées)

4112
02:33:01,080 --> 02:33:02,080
pour 2024 à CARGILL SEL,

4113
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:03,080
SéCURITé ROUTIèRE, UNE DIVISION

4114
02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:04,080
DE CARGILL LTéE pour un montant

4115
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:05,080
total de 1 127 950,74 $, taxes

4116
02:33:05,080 --> 02:33:06,080
incluses. Do I have a mover?

4117
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:07,080
>> Sorry, Eric Stork, district

4118
02:33:07,080 --> 02:33:08,080
seven.

4119
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:09,080
>> And a seconder?

4120
02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:10,080
>> Tara Stainforth.

4121
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:12,080
>> All in favour?

4122
02:33:26,080 --> 02:33:27,080
C'est contre-attaque trois et

4123
02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:29,080
dans le cas de l'entente que la

4124
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:30,080
Ville de Pointe-Claire a conclu

4125
02:33:30,080 --> 02:33:31,080
avec la Ville de Montréal et les

4126
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:33,080
autres villes liées. La

4127
02:33:33,080 --> 02:33:34,080
Regroupement permet une économie

4128
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:35,080
en raison du volume

4129
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:36,080
(inaudible)

4130
02:33:36,080 --> 02:33:37,080
et du fait d'éviter les

4131
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:38,080
procédures appel d'offres lancé

4132
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:42,080
par avec le point. >> 14.9

4133
02:33:42,080 --> 02:33:43,080
Approve a change order to the

4134
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:44,080
contract entered into with

4135
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:45,080
BIO-CONTRÔLE ARBORICOLE INC.

4136
02:33:45,080 --> 02:33:47,080
, For buckthorn eradication

4137
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:48,080
works in the Tony Proudfoot

4138
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:51,080
woodland, for an amount of $

4139
02:33:51,080 --> 02:33:54,080
11,328.72, taxes included. The

4140
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:55,080
changes required to allow the

4141
02:33:55,080 --> 02:33:57,080
clearing of a specific area near

4142
02:33:57,080 --> 02:33:59,080
the -- planting of the area for

4143
02:33:59,080 --> 02:34:01,040
the year 2024. 14.10 Approuver

4144
02:34:01,040 --> 02:34:02,040
une modification au contrat

4145
02:34:02,040 --> 02:34:03,040
intervenu avec SERVICES D'ARBRES

4146
02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:04,040
PRIMEAU INC. Pour des travaux

4147
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:05,040
d'arboriculture, pour un montant

4148
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:09,040
de 34 492,50 $, taxes incluses.

4149
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:11,040
La modification comptera est

4150
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:13,040
dans le but d'accélérer le

4151
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:15,040
calendrier d'élagage et

4152
02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:16,040
l'abattage, afin de permettre de

4153
02:34:16,040 --> 02:34:18,040
façon proactive d'atténuer les

4154
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:19,040
risques et de mieux préparer les

4155
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:21,040
arbres à résister aux événements

4156
02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:23,040
extrêmes.

4157
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:26,040
Pour 14,8 à 14,10...

4158
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:27,040
Do I have a mover?

4159
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:29,040
>> Tariffs in fourth, district

4160
02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:30,040
four.

4161
02:34:30,040 --> 02:34:31,040
- Merci! >> A seconder?

4162
02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:33,040
>> But in a timely, district

4163
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:34,040
six. All

4164
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:39,040
>> In favour?

4165
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:42,040
>> 15.1 Award a contract for the

4166
02:34:42,040 --> 02:34:43,040
purchase of new office furniture

4167
02:34:43,040 --> 02:34:44,040
for the Public Works Department,

4168
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:46,040
to OBURO

4169
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:47,040
(9497-3351 QUÉBEC INC.)

4170
02:34:47,040 --> 02:34:48,040
, for a total amount of $

4171
02:34:48,040 --> 02:34:51,040
460,442.66, taxes included. This

4172
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,040
contract is for the purchase of

4173
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:55,040
new office furniture for the

4174
02:34:55,040 --> 02:35:00,000
public sport department --. 15.2

4175
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:03,000
Octroyer un contrat pour le

4176
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:04,000
service de déneigement,

4177
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:05,000
d'entretien et de réparation des

4178
02:35:05,000 --> 02:35:08,000
toitures, à FERBLANTERIE LUCIEN

4179
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:09,000
ST-ONGE LTéE, pour un montant

4180
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:10,000
total de 97 098,46 $, taxes

4181
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:14,000
incluses.

4182
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:18,000
>> 15.3 Approve a change order

4183
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:19,000
to the contract entered into

4184
02:35:19,000 --> 02:35:20,000
with CONSTRUCTION CPB INC., For

4185
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:23,000
the extension and renovation of

4186
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:24,000
Public Works, for an amount of $

4187
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:28,000
70,918.57, taxes included. 34

4188
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:30,000
change orders concerning

4189
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:31,000
building mechanic, structural

4190
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:33,000
electricity and architecture.

4191
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:34,000
15.4 Approuver une modification

4192
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:35,000
au contrat intervenu avec PRISME

4193
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:36,000
ARCHITECTURE, pour des services

4194
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:38,000
professionnels pour le

4195
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:39,000
réaménagement et

4196
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:40,000
l'agrandissement du bâtiment des

4197
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:41,000
travaux publics, pour un montant

4198
02:35:41,000 --> 02:35:45,000
de 51 998,12 $, taxes incluses.

4199
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:47,000
La modification est avec le

4200
02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:49,000
changement des règles sur la

4201
02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:52,000
traçabilité des sols contaminés

4202
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:53,000
qui a été modifiée par le

4203
02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:55,000
gouvernement du Québec après que

4204
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:57,000
le concept des travaux aient été

4205
02:35:57,000 --> 02:35:59,000
finalisés.

4206
02:36:01,060 --> 02:36:02,060
>> 15.5 Approve a change order

4207
02:36:02,060 --> 02:36:03,060
to the contract entered into

4208
02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:04,060
with GROUPE CIRTECH INC., For

4209
02:36:04,060 --> 02:36:05,060
roofing works at Cedar and Ovide

4210
02:36:05,060 --> 02:36:07,060
park chalets, for an amount of $

4211
02:36:07,060 --> 02:36:11,060
2 496.92, taxes included. The

4212
02:36:11,060 --> 02:36:12,060
modification involves relocating

4213
02:36:12,060 --> 02:36:14,060
the mass of the existing

4214
02:36:14,060 --> 02:36:16,060
lamppost to completely

4215
02:36:16,060 --> 02:36:18,060
waterproofing and the roof --.

4216
02:36:18,060 --> 02:36:19,060
15.6 Approuver une modification

4217
02:36:19,060 --> 02:36:20,060
au contrat intervenu avec LES

4218
02:36:20,060 --> 02:36:21,060
ENTREPRISES VERRECCHIA INC.,

4219
02:36:21,060 --> 02:36:22,060
Pour la réfection des vestiaires

4220
02:36:22,060 --> 02:36:24,060
de l'Aréna BobBirnie, pour un

4221
02:36:24,060 --> 02:36:25,060
montant de 26 785,72 $, taxes

4222
02:36:25,060 --> 02:36:30,060
incluses.

4223
02:36:31,060 --> 02:36:33,060
Pas... pour faire le ménage des

4224
02:36:33,060 --> 02:36:34,060
murs et l'enlèvement de

4225
02:36:34,060 --> 02:36:35,060
peinturer cahier, tels que

4226
02:36:35,060 --> 02:36:37,060
nécessaire pour la nouvelle

4227
02:36:37,060 --> 02:36:39,060
peinture. Les changements

4228
02:36:39,060 --> 02:36:41,060
d'ancrage des banques pour

4229
02:36:41,060 --> 02:36:46,060
ancrage réussit avec 6 livres.

4230
02:36:47,060 --> 02:36:48,060
Pour 15,1 qu'ils virgule... six

4231
02:36:48,060 --> 02:36:49,060
15,1, 15,3 à 15,4, je vais voter

4232
02:36:49,060 --> 02:36:50,060
contre. Do I have a mover?

4233
02:36:50,060 --> 02:36:52,060
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

4234
02:36:52,060 --> 02:36:53,060
>> And a seconder?

4235
02:36:53,060 --> 02:36:55,060
>> Paul Bissonnette, district

4236
02:36:55,060 --> 02:36:56,060
two.

4237
02:36:56,060 --> 02:36:59,060
>> All in favour? Excuse me, Mr.

4238
02:36:59,060 --> 02:37:04,020
Kusie.

4239
02:37:06,020 --> 02:37:10,020
Encore une fois, les dépenses

4240
02:37:11,020 --> 02:37:16,020
sur le building et des Travaux

4241
02:37:16,020 --> 02:37:21,020
publics, déjà là, ils sont plus

4242
02:37:21,020 --> 02:37:23,020
1,1 million. Pour cette raison,

4243
02:37:23,020 --> 02:37:26,020
je vote contre 15 virgule, un

4244
02:37:26,020 --> 02:37:27,020
15,3 15 virgule. Quatre

4245
02:37:27,020 --> 02:37:28,020
- C'est bien noté!

4246
02:37:28,020 --> 02:37:31,020
- C'est raté! If you want to

4247
02:37:31,020 --> 02:37:32,020
finish the vote for the other

4248
02:37:32,020 --> 02:37:33,020
councillors.

4249
02:37:33,020 --> 02:37:34,020
>> Okay, all in favour?

4250
02:37:34,020 --> 02:37:39,020
>> Thank you.

4251
02:37:43,020 --> 02:37:44,020
>>

4252
02:37:44,020 --> 02:37:45,020
16.1 Approve a change order to

4253
02:37:45,020 --> 02:37:46,020
the contract entered into with

4254
02:37:46,020 --> 02:37:47,020
LE GROUPE LML LTÉE, for

4255
02:37:47,020 --> 02:37:48,020
lighting of the Reading Garden,

4256
02:37:48,020 --> 02:37:49,020
for an amount of $ 2,523.55,

4257
02:37:49,020 --> 02:37:50,020
taxes included. It's for the

4258
02:37:50,020 --> 02:37:51,020
installation of a custom-made

4259
02:37:51,020 --> 02:37:53,020
play to protect the pipe during

4260
02:37:53,020 --> 02:37:54,020
the winter period. 16.2

4261
02:37:54,020 --> 02:37:55,020
Approuver une modification au

4262
02:37:55,020 --> 02:37:56,020
contrat intervenu avec LES

4263
02:37:56,020 --> 02:37:58,020
ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC., Pour la

4264
02:37:58,020 --> 02:37:59,020
construction d'un sentier

4265
02:37:59,020 --> 02:38:00,080
polyvalent entre les avenues

4266
02:38:00,080 --> 02:38:01,080
Alston et Stillview

4267
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:03,080
(piste cyclable Brigadoon)

4268
02:38:03,080 --> 02:38:04,080
, pour un montant de 18 199,39

4269
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:09,080
$, taxes incluses.

4270
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:13,080
Trois arbres, tout ce qu'on dit

4271
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:15,080
à maître des températures suite

4272
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:16,080
à l'évaluation de leurs

4273
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:17,080
conditions par une ferme

4274
02:38:17,080 --> 02:38:18,080
externe. En raison de leurs

4275
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:20,080
pauvres conditions structural et

4276
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:22,080
leur proximité au réseau

4277
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:23,080
d'Hydro-Québec, les arbres ont

4278
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:25,080
été abattus par une entreprise

4279
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:27,080
spécialisée.

4280
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:29,080
>> 16.3 Approve a change order

4281
02:38:29,080 --> 02:38:30,080
to the contract entered into

4282
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:33,080
with TROICÉ CONSTRUCTION INC.,

4283
02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:34,080
For the construction of an

4284
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:36,080
accessible sanitary building at

4285
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:39,080
Tony-Proudfoot Park, for an

4286
02:38:39,080 --> 02:38:40,080
amount of $ 2,568.35, taxes

4287
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:42,080
included. There are three

4288
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:45,080
changes to the contract. It is a

4289
02:38:45,080 --> 02:38:46,080
supply and installation of a hot

4290
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:48,080
water tank. Supply installation

4291
02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:50,080
of fireproof wood panels for the

4292
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:52,080
alarm systems in the mechanical.

4293
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:53,080
Room in the supply and

4294
02:38:53,080 --> 02:38:54,080
installation of an accessory for

4295
02:38:54,080 --> 02:38:58,080
filling water bottles --. Pour

4296
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:02,040
16,1 16,3 Do I have a mover?

4297
02:39:02,040 --> 02:39:04,040
>> Eric Stork, district. Seven

4298
02:39:04,040 --> 02:39:05,040
>> And a seconder?

4299
02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:07,040
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

4300
02:39:07,040 --> 02:39:08,040
district three.

4301
02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:11,040
>> All in favour? Les personnes

4302
02:39:11,040 --> 02:39:12,040
présentes peuvent s'adresser au

4303
02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:16,040
Conseil concernant les 17,1

4304
02:39:16,040 --> 02:39:20,040
17,2. Deux dérogations mineures.

4305
02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:24,040
Alors, poursuivons. 17.1

4306
02:39:24,040 --> 02:39:25,040
Considérer une demande de

4307
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:26,040
dérogation mineure concernant la

4308
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:27,040
propriété située au 160, avenue

4309
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:28,040
Labrosse. Pour permettre 1 heure

4310
02:39:28,040 --> 02:39:30,040
de stationnement situé en marge

4311
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:32,040
avant là où il n'est pas permis.

4312
02:39:32,040 --> 02:39:34,040
Des, avec 31 cas de

4313
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:35,040
stationnement plutôt que le

4314
02:39:35,040 --> 02:39:38,040
minimum requis de 134. Avec 0%

4315
02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:39,040
dameuse... d'aménagement

4316
02:39:39,040 --> 02:39:41,040
paysager pour que le minimum

4317
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:44,040
requis de 10% de cette

4318
02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:45,040
superficie. Ne comprendra pas un

4319
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:46,040
(---)

4320
02:39:46,040 --> 02:39:47,040
ou une bande séparatiste

4321
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:48,040
gazonnée d'une largeur minimale

4322
02:39:48,040 --> 02:39:50,040
de 2 mètres tel que requis. Le

4323
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:52,040
comité consultatif d'urbanisme

4324
02:39:52,040 --> 02:39:54,040
recommande au Conseil de refuser

4325
02:39:54,040 --> 02:39:56,040
cette demande.

4326
02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:59,040
- Pour 17,1,

4327
02:39:59,040 --> 02:40:01,000
Merci! Do I have a mover? I move

4328
02:40:01,000 --> 02:40:03,000
that the minor exemption request

4329
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:05,000
be refused. Brent Cowan,

4330
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:06,000
district eight.

4331
02:40:06,000 --> 02:40:07,000
>> And a seconder?

4332
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:09,000
>> Tara Stainforth, district

4333
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:10,000
four.

4334
02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:15,000
>> All in favour?

4335
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:17,000
>> 17.2 Consider a minor

4336
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:18,000
exemption request concerning the

4337
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:19,000
property situated at 123 De

4338
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:20,000
Newton Square Avenue.

4339
02:40:20,000 --> 02:40:21,000
It is to permit a garage with an

4340
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:22,000
eastside setback of zero metres

4341
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:24,000
rather than the minimum required

4342
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:27,000
of one metre.

4343
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:29,000
>> For 17.2, do I have a mover?

4344
02:40:29,000 --> 02:40:31,000
>> I move the minor exemption

4345
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:33,000
requests at 17.2 be approved.

4346
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:35,000
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.

4347
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:36,000
>> And seconder?

4348
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:38,000
>> There are Stainforth,

4349
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:39,000
district one.

4350
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:42,000
>> All in favour?

4351
02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:10,060
>> 17.4 Consider the site

4352
02:41:10,060 --> 02:41:11,060
planning and architectural

4353
02:41:11,060 --> 02:41:12,060
integration programme plans with

4354
02:41:12,060 --> 02:41:13,060
respect to the property situated

4355
02:41:13,060 --> 02:41:14,060
at 163 De Dieppe Avenue. It is

4356
02:41:14,060 --> 02:41:16,060
four new construction of a two

4357
02:41:16,060 --> 02:41:17,060
storey detached single family

4358
02:41:17,060 --> 02:41:18,060
home. 17.5 Considérer les plans

4359
02:41:18,060 --> 02:41:20,060
d'implantation et d'intégration

4360
02:41:20,060 --> 02:41:21,060
architecturale relatifs à la

4361
02:41:21,060 --> 02:41:22,060
propriété située au 136, avenue

4362
02:41:22,060 --> 02:41:27,060
Duke-of-Kent. Pour un

4363
02:41:27,060 --> 02:41:28,060
agrandissement du deuxième étage

4364
02:41:28,060 --> 02:41:29,060
en ajoutant trois lucarne sur la

4365
02:41:29,060 --> 02:41:30,060
façade avant une lucarne a

4366
02:41:30,060 --> 02:41:32,060
pignon à l'arrière. Et une

4367
02:41:32,060 --> 02:41:33,060
construction d'un nouveau toit

4368
02:41:33,060 --> 02:41:38,060
de Porsche. Pour 17,3 à 17,5...

4369
02:41:39,060 --> 02:41:40,060
Do I have a mover?

4370
02:41:40,060 --> 02:41:41,060
>> Paul Bissonnette, district

4371
02:41:41,060 --> 02:41:42,060
two.

4372
02:41:42,060 --> 02:41:43,060
>> And seconder?

4373
02:41:43,060 --> 02:41:45,060
>> Claude Cousineau, district

4374
02:41:45,060 --> 02:41:46,060
one.

4375
02:41:46,060 --> 02:41:48,060
>> All in favour? - Merci!

4376
02:41:50,060 --> 02:41:52,060
It is a resolution respecting

4377
02:41:52,060 --> 02:41:54,060
intellectual freedom in public

4378
02:41:54,060 --> 02:41:55,060
libraries, in Québec and

4379
02:41:55,060 --> 02:41:56,060
elsewhere, -- censorship, is

4380
02:41:56,060 --> 02:41:58,060
friction or judgments can raise

4381
02:41:58,060 --> 02:41:59,060
fears for the future and the

4382
02:41:59,060 --> 02:42:00,020
fundamental mission of our

4383
02:42:00,020 --> 02:42:02,020
cultural institutions. That's

4384
02:42:02,020 --> 02:42:07,020
why the -- also known as a B PQ

4385
02:42:07,020 --> 02:42:11,020
and the -- also known as BIA and

4386
02:42:11,020 --> 02:42:13,020
Q, supported by the -- half

4387
02:42:13,020 --> 02:42:14,020
repaired and propose this

4388
02:42:14,020 --> 02:42:15,020
resolution to recognize the

4389
02:42:15,020 --> 02:42:16,020
importance of our libraries

4390
02:42:16,020 --> 02:42:17,020
essential role in respecting

4391
02:42:17,020 --> 02:42:19,020
intellectual freedom.

4392
02:42:21,020 --> 02:42:22,020
Oui 19,1, résolution visant à

4393
02:42:22,020 --> 02:42:23,020
rétablir une approche claire

4394
02:42:23,020 --> 02:42:24,020
pour envisager l'avenir des

4395
02:42:24,020 --> 02:42:25,020
espaces verts privée par la

4396
02:42:25,020 --> 02:42:26,020
participation du public un

4397
02:42:26,020 --> 02:42:27,020
processus de consultation.

4398
02:42:27,020 --> 02:42:28,020
>> For 18.1, do I have a mover?

4399
02:42:28,020 --> 02:42:29,020
>> Bruno Tremblay, district six.

4400
02:42:29,020 --> 02:42:30,020
>> And a seconder?

4401
02:42:30,020 --> 02:42:31,020
>> Cynthia Highland, district

4402
02:42:31,020 --> 02:42:32,020
five.

4403
02:42:32,020 --> 02:42:37,020
>> All in favour?

4404
02:42:42,020 --> 02:42:44,020
- Privées et publiques, je

4405
02:42:44,020 --> 02:42:45,020
pense.

4406
02:42:45,020 --> 02:42:46,020
- Non, c'est juste privée?

4407
02:42:46,020 --> 02:42:49,020
- Privé.

4408
02:42:49,020 --> 02:42:52,020
- Pour 19,1,

4409
02:42:52,020 --> 02:42:53,020
And I have a mover?

4410
02:42:53,020 --> 02:42:55,020
>> Eric Stork, district seven.

4411
02:42:55,020 --> 02:42:58,020
>> And seconder?

4412
02:42:58,020 --> 02:42:59,020
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,

4413
02:42:59,020 --> 02:43:01,080
district three.

4414
02:43:01,080 --> 02:43:02,080
>> All in favour?

4415
02:43:02,080 --> 02:43:03,080
>> There is something I would

4416
02:43:03,080 --> 02:43:04,080
like to address. First of all, I

4417
02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:05,080
would like to congratulate Eric

4418
02:43:05,080 --> 02:43:06,080
Stork on his work on putting

4419
02:43:06,080 --> 02:43:09,080
through this resolution. I would

4420
02:43:09,080 --> 02:43:11,080
also like to congratulate all of

4421
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:13,080
us to -- figuring out a way to

4422
02:43:13,080 --> 02:43:14,080
make a resolution that we can

4423
02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:18,080
all, I hope, support and pass.

4424
02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:23,080
>> For 19.1 --. Excuse-moi

4425
02:43:23,080 --> 02:43:27,080
Claude.

4426
02:43:27,080 --> 02:43:29,080
- Votre micro, s'il vous plaît.

4427
02:43:29,080 --> 02:43:32,080
- En caucus, on a discuté et

4428
02:43:32,080 --> 02:43:34,080
puis il manque un point

4429
02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:37,080
important là-dedans. Ça fait

4430
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:39,080
longtemps que je le dis. On ne

4431
02:43:39,080 --> 02:43:42,080
sait même pas comment que les

4432
02:43:42,080 --> 02:43:44,080
consultations vont être faites.

4433
02:43:44,080 --> 02:43:48,080
Ça doit être réparé avant que

4434
02:43:48,080 --> 02:43:50,080
j'approuve cette excellente

4435
02:43:50,080 --> 02:43:53,080
résolution. Mais, on n'a pas un

4436
02:43:53,080 --> 02:43:55,080
plan pour tenir des

4437
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:58,080
consultations publiques, alors

4438
02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:00,040
je vais voter contre.

4439
02:44:00,040 --> 02:44:02,040
- On va faire le vote

4440
02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:03,040
(inaudible)

4441
02:44:03,040 --> 02:44:04,040
.

4442
02:44:04,040 --> 02:44:09,040
>> All in favour? All opposed?

4443
02:44:13,040 --> 02:44:15,040
Closure? Do I have a mover?

4444
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:16,040
>> There are Stainforth,

4445
02:44:16,040 --> 02:44:17,040
district four.

4446
02:44:17,040 --> 02:44:22,040
>> And seconder?

4447
02:44:22,040 --> 02:44:23,040
>> Brandon Allen, district

4448
02:44:23,040 --> 02:44:24,040
eight.

4449
02:44:24,040 --> 02:44:26,040
>> All in favour? Merci! Merci

4450
02:44:26,040 --> 02:44:28,040
tout le. Monde

4451
02:44:28,040 --> 02:44:30,040
Thank you, folks, for not

4452
02:44:30,040 --> 02:44:31,040
watching the American election

4453
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:35,040
and exercising your democratic

4454
02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:37,040
choice. Much better here.