[0:05] - ... Du 5 novembre 2024.
[0:08] Good evening, ladies and
[0:09] gentlemen. Welcome to the
[0:10] November 5th council
[0:12] meeting 2024.
[0:13] Nous sommes ravis de vous
[0:16] annoncer que le 23 octobre
[0:18] dernier, nous avons tenu une
[0:20] cérémonie officielle pour
[0:23] assermenter dix jeunes qui
[0:25] composent le comité consultatif
[0:28] jeunesse pour le mandat
[0:30] 2024 à 2025. Ce comité
[0:32] consultatif a pour mission de
[0:35] formuler des recommandations
[0:37] et de donner une voix aux
[0:40] jeunes citoyennes et citoyens
[0:42] afin d'enrichir les activités et
[0:45] les services qui leur sont
[0:47] destinés. We are delight to
[0:49] introduce the ten young people
[0:51] who make up the Youth Advisory
[0:54] Board for the 2024-2025 term.
[0:56] For the second term,
[0:58] we have Albi Çullhaj,
[1:01] "André" Gariépy, Olivia
[1:06] Ginnetti, Anastasia Sabapathy...
[1:11] Alexandre Gariépy, merci.
[1:14] They're joined by the following
[1:16] new members: Dina El Azzouzi,
[1:19] Jason Chen, Michelle Ruoying Li,
[1:24] Olivia Rogers, Tianna Maughn
[1:28] et Chloe Guan. For the past six
[1:29] years, the city of Pointe-Claire
[1:31] has relied on the Youth Advisory
[1:33] Board to make permanent
[1:35] recommandations on behalf of
[1:37] young people in Pointe-Claire.
[1:39] It's a great asset for a city
[1:41] like Pointe-Claire to be
[1:42] surrounded by a dynamic group of
[1:44] young people who represent the
[1:45] voice of their generation to the
[1:47] municipal administration
[1:49] and elected officials.
[1:50] We wish them success in carrying
[1:52] out their mandate and thank them
[1:55] sincerely for their involvement.
[1:57] Encore une fois cette année, le
[1:59] nouveaux propos ont un automne
[2:01] bien remplie pour vous faire
[2:04] sortir et participer aux
[2:05] événements et activités pour
[2:07] profiter de l'automne. Nous
[2:09] venons de publier le nouveau
[2:11] calendrier d'activité automnale
[2:13] et hivernales des parcs,
[2:16] spécialement conçu pour les
[2:17] jeunes de 8 à 18 ans. Ces
[2:21] activités organisées les
[2:23] vendredi dès 18 heures à 21
[2:26] heures offrait l'espace
[2:28] sécuritaire et dynamique pour
[2:30] cette ouverture et socialiser.
[2:32] Cette saison, une variété
[2:35] d'activités proposé des sports
[2:38] les soirée cinéma, une sortie au
[2:42] qui est bien plus encore. Il y
[2:44] en a pour tous les goûts.
[2:47] Permettons à chacun et chacune
[2:48] de trouver l'activité qui lui
[2:50] convenait.
[2:52] Once again, we've got a busy
[2:53] fall in the store to get you out
[2:55] and about in participing in
[2:57] events and activities to make
[2:58] the most of November.
[3:00] We just annonced a new fall and
[3:02] winter parks program, specially
[3:04] designed for youth aged 8 to 18.
[3:06] These activities held every
[3:08] Friday from 6 to 9 PM provide
[3:10] a safe and engaging space
[3:12] for fun and socializing.
[3:14] Registration is done on site on
[3:16] the day of the activity. Youth
[3:18] are free to participate and
[3:20] enjoy the flexibility to come
[3:22] and go as they please.
[3:24] Expo-sciences. Les centres
[3:28] culturel accueille une nouvelle
[3:30] exposition des sciences, les
[3:32] neuf et 19 membres. Un nombre de
[3:36] domaines scientifiques selon
[3:37] (inaudible)
[3:38] tout au long de la fin de
[3:39] semaine. Dans la physique, la
[3:43] chimie, la biologie est bien
[3:47] d'autres. Jeunes et moins jeunes
[3:49] pourront vivre à des expériences
[3:50] qui trouveront des réponses à
[3:52] leurs questions dans un
[3:56] environnement créatif.
[3:57] In collaboration with Concordia
[3:59] University, Stewart Hall will be
[4:01] hosting the interactive science
[4:03] exhibition for children, parents
[4:05] and the general public
[4:06] to demystify science.
[4:08] A number of scientific fields
[4:10] will be reprensented all weekend
[4:12] including physics, chemistry,
[4:14] engineering, biology
[4:17] and many others.
[4:19] Kids and adults will find
[4:21] answers to their questions in a
[4:23] fun and creative environment.
[4:25] Le jour du Souvenir. C'est le 10
[4:28] novembre prochain qui nous
[4:30] inviterons les citoyens citoyens
[4:34] apprendre par dé jour du
[4:37] Souvenir dès 10 heures 30. Pour
[4:39] l'occasion, tout la communauté
[4:41] de Pointe-Claire étaient invités
[4:42] à porter le coquelicot, symbole
[4:47] associé à la mémoire de ceux qui
[4:50] sont morts à la guerre pour
[4:52] défendre la liberté et... la
[4:54] liberté dont nous profitons tous
[4:55] les jours. La cérémonie se
[4:59] déroulera à 10 heures 30, au
[5:02] centre cénotaphe, monument à la
[5:05] mémoire des soldats disparus à
[5:07] l'arrière de l'hôtel de ville.
[5:10] Les drapeaux seront mis en
[5:11] branle pour l'occasion. Et
[5:15] seront également pour le jour du
[5:17] Souvenir, le 11 novembre. We
[5:20] invite citizens to take part in
[5:21] the Remembrance Day
[5:22] commemoration ceremony on
[5:23] Sunday, November 10th starting
[5:24] at 10:30 a.m..
[5:27] For the occasion, entire
[5:29] Pointe-Claire community is to
[5:31] wear a poppy, a symbol associate
[5:33] with the memory of those who
[5:34] died in the war to defend the
[5:35] freedoms we still enjoy every
[5:38] day. The ceremony will take
[5:39] place at 10:30 a.m. at the
[5:42] cenotaph behind city hall. A
[5:43] monument built in the memory of
[5:45] fallen soldiers. Flags will be
[5:48] flown at half mast for the
[5:50] occasion. It will also be
[5:51] lowered for Remembrance Day on
[5:52] November 11th. Le train des
[5:58] fêtes passera à l'agora Valois,
[6:01] les ventres du 22 novembre
[6:04] prochain. C'est un rendez-vous
[6:05] n'est pas moi qui! C'est facile
[6:08] à manquer... le 30 novembre,
[6:09] venez nous rejoindre pour
[6:10] célébrer l'élimination de
[6:11] l'arbre de Noël dans le village
[6:12] de Pointe-Claire. It is in and
[6:13] out, but it's fun.
[6:20] Les festivités promettre d'être
[6:22] mémorable et sont ouvertes à
[6:24] tous les citoyennes et tous les
[6:26] citoyens petit écran.
[6:30] Holiday train will be passing on
[6:32] bylaw station on Friday,
[6:33] November 22nd to join us for the
[6:35] occasion. On November 30th,
[6:37] celebrate with us the lighting
[6:38] of the Christmas tree in the
[6:39] village of Pointe-Claire. The
[6:41] festivities promised to be
[6:43] memorable and are open to all
[6:44] citizens, young and old. Thank
[6:46] you. Merci à toutes et à tous!
[6:57] We do Councillors opening.
[7:01] Council reports, I will start
[7:02] with district A.
[7:08] >> I've been working very hard
[7:10] the last week distributing
[7:12] poppies properties, managing the
[7:14] poppy campaign. I see most
[7:15] people are wearing them so I
[7:16] think it's working. I cannot
[7:17] report so far we collected
[7:18] around $43,000 for the
[7:20] generosity of the people of
[7:21] Pointe-Claire. Thank you.
[7:24] >> Councillor?
[7:29] Rien de spécial Monsieur le
[7:31] Maire.
[7:36] >> Good evening. Bonsoir. Just
[7:39] an update on the project on
[7:42] Lakeshore, Lakeside and
[7:43] Lakeview. On Lakeview, by the
[7:45] end of November, paving will be
[7:46] finished. D'ici la fin novembre,
[7:47] il y aura le pavage permanent du
[7:49] Conseil des entrées.
[7:58] Et terrasse Armand, Savage de se
[8:02] chaussées...
[8:03] (---)
[8:04] . On Lakeshore between Lakeview
[8:08] the paving and the driveways how
[8:13] completed. Now one lakeshore to
[8:15] lakeside, la Ville de
[8:18] Montréal procédera au pavage
[8:20] temporaire de la chaussée.
[8:22] Et des entrées d'ici le 20
[8:25] décembre. So Up until December
[8:29] 20th, between Lakeside on the
[8:32] lakeshore, there will be doing a
[8:35] temporary paving of the roadway
[8:38] and the driveways.
[8:41] The contractor has -- will be
[8:44] coming back in spring of 2025 to
[8:47] finish the sidewalks, some
[8:51] foundations and permanent paving
[8:54] between terrasse and lakeside.
[8:56] Il y a environ trois ou quatre
[8:58] semaines de fermeture complète
[8:59] du chemin bord du lac, sauf pour
[9:01] les autobus. During that time,
[9:03] spring of 25, the lakes will be
[9:05] closed for 3 to 4 weeks for
[9:06] buses has a finish the work
[9:07] there.
[9:10] According to the contract, the
[9:12] contractor has 590 days total to
[9:15] do the work and that takes them
[9:17] up to 11th of June, 2025 to
[9:21] finish everything. I know it has
[9:23] been difficult since
[9:26] administration has worked hard.
[9:32] Mr. Tanguay has worked very hard
[9:33] and trying to control the
[9:34] traffic a little bit. That is
[9:36] why the buses were really rooted
[9:38] in all kinds of things were
[9:39] done. It was a Montréal project,
[9:43] however, the people that are and
[9:47] trying to do what they can to
[9:48] try to make things better and
[9:49] easier. Le gouvernement de
[9:50] proximité... c'est presque fini.
[9:54] It has been a difficult project
[9:57] but nearing the end. Merci pour
[10:00] votre patience. C'est! Thanks
[10:02] for your patience.
[10:05] C'est tout, pardon. >>
[10:06] Councillor Homan?
[10:07] >> Good evening, I want to
[10:09] mention that this weekend on
[10:11] Sunday from 10 to 2 they'll be a
[10:14] food drive by the West Island
[10:16] mission. We did it last year. It
[10:18] is called porch to pantry. We
[10:20] are asking everyone to be very
[10:21] generous. If you can put out
[10:23] your donations in a bag on your
[10:26] porch and just mark indicate on
[10:28] it West Island Mission.
[10:30] Volunteers will go round and
[10:31] drive and pick it up. There is
[10:32] information on the City website.
[10:35] For those that can look on my
[10:38] Facebook page and a few of the
[10:40] other many of the places. It's
[10:42] really important. It's a big
[10:44] need. We have been doing so
[10:46] many. I mean the old-timers did
[10:47] their wonderful food drive. I
[10:51] say it's that time of year. I
[10:53] feel like this year has been a
[10:55] constant so please be generous
[10:56] and thank you very much.
[10:59] Conseiller Tremblay! >> I think?
[11:03] Councillor Stork?
[11:05] - Bonjour à tous. >> Just a
[11:07] couple of follow-up points for
[11:08] the north and east have been.
[11:09] The bane of our existence is
[11:10] summer, the construction work on
[11:11] one drop is basically almost
[11:12] completed.
[11:14] They will be paving tomorrow,
[11:16] weather permitting. It will be
[11:18] so it is over for the winter and
[11:19] it will be continued about six
[11:20] weeks late. La première couche,
[11:21] comme ils disent.
[11:26] I commend the City for doing
[11:28] everything they can in terms of
[11:29] the work they did. They were
[11:30] there every day, making sure
[11:31] they did not start early to the
[11:33] best of their ability. The
[11:35] second point is there is an
[11:36] important thing on the agenda
[11:38] today that I think maybe has not
[11:40] given enough light. It is the
[11:43] passing of the notion to motion
[11:45] and acceptance, basically, of
[11:49] accessory dwelling units.
[11:50] Basically it's a new bylaw that
[11:52] has been done right across
[11:53] pretty much the world now to add
[11:57] accessory dwelling units to our
[11:58] homes. Whether allowing you to
[12:00] extend your garage provided that
[12:03] it is certain. Obviously zoning
[12:05] bylaws to build a little shed in
[12:06] the back four in last weeks and
[12:09] things like that. It's a real
[12:12] great initiative to increase the
[12:14] housing stock, let people stay
[12:15] in their homes, that the
[12:18] relatives, their parents stay in
[12:19] their home by heading a dwelling
[12:22] over your garage or in the
[12:23] backyard so I think that's a big
[12:25] thing. It's disgusting but I
[12:27] think it is -- I commend
[12:30] Councillor administration for
[12:31] doing that because we are in a
[12:33] housing crisis there's a lot of
[12:35] homes that needed. Outside of
[12:36] that, I thank you, Mister Mayor.
[12:49] Je vais le dire en français. >>
[12:50] The adoption of the agenda. Do I
[12:51] have a mover?
[12:54] >> District three.
[12:55] >> And seconder?
[12:57] >> District four.
[12:59] >> All in favour?
[13:01] >> Mister Mayor, I would like to
[13:02] address is, basically I'd like
[13:04] to move an amendment to have a
[13:06] vote on the following resolution
[13:08] added to the agenda. This
[13:11] resolution has was published, it
[13:12] has been modified quite a bit.
[13:15] It is basically as I mentioned
[13:17] last month or last two weeks ago
[13:19] at the special meeting and I
[13:21] just wanted to say a small
[13:22] little thing here. Here we go,
[13:26] as was discussed in the last
[13:27] special meeting, I believe this
[13:28] entire Council is committed to
[13:30] public consultation and public
[13:33] respect. As we committed to the
[13:34] last meeting we looked at the
[13:35] resolution and we are able to
[13:36] maintain some of the key points
[13:37] of the mayors resolution and
[13:39] have compiled the concerns of
[13:41] the rest of the council.
[13:42] Therefore, I'm proposing the
[13:43] following resolution to be added
[13:44] to the agenda today. It has
[13:47] changed, it has been watered
[13:48] down, it has been modified, it
[13:49] has been thinned out and it was
[13:51] a good party discussion in
[13:53] caucus to get to where we got so
[13:55] I think this is a positive and
[13:59] hopefully this will pass
[14:01] tonight. If somebody seconded,
[14:06] I'm sure they will say ten
[14:07] English. C'est une résolution
[14:08] visant à rétablir une approche
[14:10] claire pour envisager l'avenir
[14:11] des espaces verts privée par la
[14:15] participation du public un
[14:17] processus de consultation.
[14:19] Attendu que... le public
[14:21] démontre un fort intérêt à
[14:23] préserver les quelques forêts,
[14:25] milieux humides et habitats
[14:27] naturels et substances du
[14:28] territoire de Pointe-Claire.
[14:31] Considérant que les
[14:33] circonstances ont changé à
[14:35] savoir... le projet de loi 39 a
[14:37] été adopté par la
[14:38] (inaudible)
[14:39] du Québec qui attribue certains
[14:41] pouvoirs aux municipalités pour
[14:42] pouvoir protéger les espaces
[14:43] verts, les milieux humides, les
[14:45] forêts et les habitants
[14:47] naturels. Le projet de loi 21
[14:51] concerne la révision des
[14:52] procédures d'expropriation
[14:54] ouverte aux municipalités tel
[14:55] que Pointe-Claire, également
[14:58] être adapté par l'Assemblée
[15:00] nationale de Québec. Le
[15:04] (inaudible)
[15:05] le deuxième projet a été publié
[15:07] écarte... clarifier les
[15:08] exigences de la clarté
[15:10] Métropolis de Montréal et de
[15:12] l'agglomération de Montréal à
[15:13] l'écart de Pointe-Claire.
[15:14] Notamment, en ce qui a trait les
[15:16] (inaudible)
[15:17] densification dans les zones
[15:18] théoriques. Et, oui le maire a
[15:22] dit guépard... il y a deux
[15:25] semaines qu'il propose sur des
[15:27] consultations publiques qu'ils
[15:28] aimeraient cette consultation
[15:30] publique. Par conséquent, les
[15:32] résolu que l'administration de
[15:33] la Ville obtient les
[15:36] renseignements nécessaires à
[15:40] savoir... les mesures permises
[15:41] par la loi 39 pour protéger la
[15:43] valeur écologique des espaces
[15:47] verts.
[15:48] - Les droits de procédure et les
[15:50] coûts en vertu du projet de loi
[15:53] 22 en ce qui concerne des
[15:54] espaces verts privée. Les
[15:57] programmes... dernièrement, les
[15:59] programmes offerts par les
[16:00] niveaux supérieurs du
[16:02] gouvernement pour aider à
[16:04] l'acquisition sous la protection
[16:05] des espaces verts.
[16:08] L'administration ressemblerais
[16:09] et considérait des
[16:11] (inaudible)
[16:12] sous mentionnés dans un rapport
[16:14] initial pour concernés examiner
[16:16] le plus tard le ferry et 2025.
[16:20] Une fois révisée, le ballon
[16:21] d'action pour la
[16:22] (inaudible)
[16:23] du public sera annoncé de
[16:26] s'engager dans les processus
[16:28] consultatifs.
[16:34] En anglais.
[16:40] >> And seconder?
[16:42] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[16:43] district three.
[16:44] I would like to read the same
[16:45] resolution in English. We moved
[16:48] to propose resolution to
[16:50] reestablish a clear path forward
[16:51] for envisioning the future of
[16:53] green spaces through
[16:54] participation of the public in
[16:55] the consultation process with
[16:57] city planners. Whereas the
[16:59] public has a strong interest in
[17:01] preserving the-limited forest,
[17:03] wetlands and natural habitats
[17:04] that remain on the territory of
[17:06] Pointe-Claire. Whereas
[17:07] circumstances have now changed
[17:08] in that bill 39 has been adopted
[17:10] into law by the national of
[17:12] Québec, which has assigned
[17:13] certain powers to municipalities
[17:14] to protect green spaces,
[17:16] wetlands, fourth and natural
[17:19] habitats. Be Bill 22 considers
[17:22] the probation procedures that
[17:23] would open such as Pointe-Claire
[17:25] has also been adopted by the
[17:27] National simply a Pointe-Claire.
[17:31] C second draft has been
[17:32] released, which gives greater
[17:33] clarity regarding what the
[17:35] Montréal metropolitan community
[17:36] in the Montréal conglomeration
[17:38] will be required from
[17:40] Pointe-Claire specifically with
[17:41] respect intensification zones
[17:44] and points D, Mayor Thomas has
[17:48] indicated through his own recent
[17:49] proposed resolution on public
[17:51] consultations that he would like
[17:52] that public consultations.
[17:53] Therefore, be it resolved that
[17:54] the administration the sea of
[17:56] Pointe-Claire acquired the
[17:57] necessary information to it, a,
[18:01] measure under be threatening to
[18:02] protect the ecological value of
[18:04] private green spaces. The, right
[18:06] procedures and costs under built
[18:09] Bill 22 that would pertain to
[18:10] hybrid green spaces, C,
[18:12] program's offered by high your
[18:14] levels of government to assist
[18:15] in the acquisition or protection
[18:17] of green spaces. The
[18:19] administration will gather and
[18:21] consolidate the aforementioned
[18:23] information into initial report
[18:24] for Council to review no later
[18:25] than February 1st, 2025. Once
[18:28] reviewed, a public participation
[18:30] action plan will be announced to
[18:31] engage in the consultation
[18:34] process.
[18:35] >> Before we vote, would anybody
[18:37] like to speak? Councillor
[18:40] Cousineau?
[18:42] >> I noticed that on the
[18:44] document that we were handed
[18:47] over in French, it says didn't
[18:50] say the same thing in English in
[18:51] the title.
[18:52] Des espaces verts publics...
[18:54] privés.
[19:04] C'est supposé être les deux. >>
[19:05] Private green spaces.
[19:07] >> Thank you.
[19:09] >> Thank you.
[19:12] >> Councillor Cowan?
[19:14] >> I think is a great initiative
[19:15] to vote on this I hope my
[19:17] colleagues on the council will
[19:18] submit the change to the agenda
[19:19] so we can vote on this
[19:22] resolution.
[19:25] >> Anybody else? I will just
[19:27] speak to it quickly. We had an
[19:30] interesting meeting before
[19:32] tonight and I think possibly a
[19:35] breakthrough meeting but it was
[19:37] -- the city dramatically changed
[19:39] document from what many of you
[19:40] may have seen or heard about
[19:42] before this meeting. It is
[19:44] dramatically change and it shows
[19:45] the willingness to adapt and
[19:47] move forward and I think it's
[19:49] positive. It's a positive thing.
[19:52] My only concern in the current
[19:53] wording and I have not had
[19:54] enough time to a simulated, is
[19:56] that I would like the 30% green
[19:58] space emphasis to be installed
[20:01] -- inserted into the document.
[20:04] Maybe some more specifications
[20:05] adds to what type of
[20:07] consultation and what impact or
[20:08] how that consultation will be
[20:10] used. The information gleaned
[20:11] will be used. Other than that, I
[20:13] think it's a remarkable
[20:16] occurrence and I'm neutral
[20:20] positive. Moving forward, I
[20:21] think that is a good thing.
[20:26] >> The vote for the amendment.
[20:28] >> All in favour of the
[20:32] amendment added to the agenda?
[20:33] >> Hold on.
[20:35] >> Who is in favour for the
[20:37] amendment to vote?
[20:38] >> All in favour? How against?
[20:43] >> Then we go back to the
[20:46] adoption of the agenda with the
[20:50] amendment.
[20:51] >> For the adoption of the
[20:52] agenda with the amendment, do I
[20:53] have a mover?
[20:54] >> It was moved.
[20:55] >> It was previously moved and
[20:58] seconded.
[20:59] >> We just follow?
[21:00] >> It is about.
[21:01] >> All in favour?
[21:03] >> Thank you.
[21:05] >> Against?
[21:13] Proclamer le mois de juin comme
[21:14] étant le mois du patrimoine
[21:15] philippin. >> You will be happy
[21:18] to know that June will now be
[21:20] the official month, proclaim the
[21:22] month of June of Pointe-Claire's
[21:25] Filipino heritage month and we
[21:26] welcome the members of the
[21:28] Association here tonight and I
[21:29] believe they are speaking in
[21:31] first in question period. It's
[21:32] an honour to have you here and
[21:33] we are thrilled to do this.
[21:44] >> Sorry 3.1, to approve the
[21:46] meeting of October 21st, 2024,
[21:48] as well as a special meeting of
[21:49] October 15th, 2024.
[21:52] >> For the minutes for 3.1 to
[21:55] approve the minutes of Special
[21:56] meeting. To have a mover?
[22:01] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[22:02] district three.
[22:03] >> And seconder?
[22:07] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[22:09] four.
[22:10] >> All in favour? Perhaps the
[22:14] most important part of the
[22:15] evening Ce soir, nous allons
[22:17] rendre hommage à la mémoire de
[22:19] monsieur Denis Francis Smith,
[22:22] décédé le 18 septembre dernier,
[22:24] à l'âge de 74 ans. Il a servi
[22:27] les citoyens de la ville de
[22:29] Pointe-Claire en tant que
[22:31] conseiller municipal pendant 12
[22:33] années. Ce soir, nous avons
[22:36] invité son épouse, madame Karine
[22:39] faisait Baxter sa famille, ses
[22:43] amis ainsi que d'anciens maires
[22:44] et conseillers qui l'ont côtoyé
[22:48] durant ces montants. Il était
[22:52] enseignant, assistant de
[22:53] circonscription du député
[22:56] (intervention en anglais)
[22:57] est bénévole communautaire très
[22:58] impliqués auprès de notre
[23:00] communauté. Il a aussi été un
[23:03] acteur très important dans la
[23:04] lutte de Pointe-Claire pour la
[23:07] diffusion. En tant que
[23:09] conseiller municipal, il a
[23:12] représenté le district sept,
[23:14] North Viau, de 2005 à 2017. Il a
[23:18] toujours servi ses électeurs
[23:19] avec beaucoup de
[23:22] professionnalisme. Nous lui
[23:23] devons beaucoup. Nous offrons
[23:25] tous nos collègues...
[23:27] condoléances à sa famille et sa
[23:29] famille. This evening we pay
[23:31] tribute to the memory of Dennis
[23:32] Francis Smith, who passed away
[23:33] on September 18 at the age of
[23:34] 74.
[23:39] He served the citizens of
[23:41] Pointe-Claire as a municipal
[23:42] councillor for 12 years. This
[23:44] evening we have invited his
[23:48] wife, Mrs. Karen Zey tax, remind
[23:51] us we have former mayors and
[23:53] councillors who worked with him
[23:54] during his mandates. A teacher,
[23:57] constituency assistant to MP
[23:58] Clifford Lincoln, and longtime
[24:00] community volunteer, he was one
[24:01] of the leaders of
[24:02] Pointe-Claire's fight for
[24:04] demerger. He was representing
[24:07] District 7, Northview, from 2005
[24:09] to 2017, serving his
[24:10] constituents with
[24:12] professionalism. We owe him a
[24:13] dept of gratitude. We offer our
[24:17] sincere condolences to his son
[24:18] Adam who is watching this
[24:20] tribute online. And now I invite
[24:23] Madam Zey Baxter to join me, to
[24:24] receive a certificate of
[24:25] recognition from the City of
[24:27] Pointe-Claire. Pictures will be
[24:29] taken with those present with
[24:31] council members and special
[24:32] guest. I guess we will be doing
[24:33] this upfront.
[24:41] [Applause]
[24:45] (applaudissements)
[26:05] [Applause]
[26:35] [Applause]
[27:01] Merci Monsieur le Maire et
[27:04] membre du Conseil de nous avoir
[27:05] invités ce soir. Thank you very
[27:07] much, Mister Mayor and members
[27:08] of Council or for inviting us in
[27:09] this evening.
[27:12] Ça fait au-dessus de 20 ans...
[27:13] la deuxième fois que je l'ai vu,
[27:14] c'est monsieur Mike Murphy qui
[27:15] avait demandé à Denis et à
[27:16] monsieur Rob garde un qui n'est
[27:17] pas ce soir, de nous aider à
[27:18] participer au conseil municipal
[27:19] de Montréal. It's much
[27:20] appreciated by myself and my ex
[27:21] colleagues. They are still
[27:22] colleagues. Mister Mayor, you
[27:23] stole a few of my lines here
[27:24] that I was going to say this
[27:25] evening but I will say them
[27:27] anyway. I have known Denis over
[27:33] 20 years I have known Denis
[27:34] Smith. I believe the first time
[27:35] that I saw him, he was going
[27:38] into a local restaurant with
[27:41] friends for breakfast. This is
[27:44] maybe 22 years ago or something
[27:47] to that effect. I spoke to him
[27:51] and that is what the first time
[27:52] I met him. Then
[28:14] we were joining the Montréal
[28:17] political scene back then and,
[28:20] to be quite honest with you, we
[28:21] did not know too much about it
[28:23] and I don't think we know much
[28:24] more today but anyway that is
[28:26] another story. We had to raise
[28:33] money for the political machine
[28:35] in Montréal. Dennis was a big
[28:39] part of that and he sort of
[28:40] calmed us down. Okay, take it
[28:43] easy, we will find a way and
[28:44] there is always a way. The way
[28:47] it worked out was that we found
[28:52] -- had to raise I believe it was
[28:55] $10,000. That is right, it was
[28:56] $10,000. Dennis, after talking
[28:59] with various people, came up
[29:01] with a plan. Go and find ten of
[29:04] your friends and asked them to
[29:05] raise $100 from ten of their
[29:07] friends and that is how we ended
[29:09] up doing it. Dennis, as the
[29:14] mayor said earlier, he worked
[29:16] for Mr. Clifford Lincoln. Then
[29:21] he hit the big time. He became a
[29:23] Council in the City of
[29:26] Pointe-Claire. And he did an
[29:29] excellent job. In caucus, he had
[29:33] so many ideas that we were all
[29:37] in all of Dennis Smith. He never
[29:41] went halfway. He always went 100
[29:45] percent. When it was time for
[29:46] the elections, I know he helped
[29:50] me when I was running for mayor
[29:53] and the things he put out on the
[29:56] table, you should do this, you
[29:57] should do this. He said you
[30:01] should. He explained the right
[30:02] way to do it. I probably did
[30:05] most of them but not all of them
[30:09] because I just did not have the
[30:12] time but he never said, well you
[30:15] should've done this, and you
[30:16] should have done that. He was a
[30:18] true professional, Dennis Smith.
[30:25] When I say we, I am talking
[30:28] about X Councillors of
[30:29] Pointe-Claire. We would meet
[30:32] with Dennis, myself and we were
[30:34] about five or six. Used to have
[30:37] breakfast once a week, someone
[30:41] Pointe-Claire. I believe it was
[30:43] Dennis who came up with the
[30:45] name, we will call ourselves the
[30:49] Romeo's. Why the Romeo's? Well I
[30:52] will tell you why, he said, he
[30:55] said retired Old municipal
[30:58] elected officials. Romeo's.
[31:02] That's not even today. We are
[31:03] still called the Romeo's. To
[31:07] finish, I would like to say that
[31:10] Janice was on Council. He helped
[31:13] provincial elections but he was
[31:16] also on the board where he lives
[31:19] in the condo. He volunteered in
[31:24] Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue. I
[31:25] believe it was Nova and he never
[31:28] stopped. He never stopped.
[31:31] Anyway, for me and my colleagues
[31:34] and members of Council, Dennis
[31:37] was a very special person and we
[31:39] miss him. Thank you.
[31:43] [Applause]
[31:57] C'était excellent, merci
[31:58] beaucoup! >> Thank you, Mayor
[31:59] Trudeau. Période des. Question
[32:02] period. Pour la période de
[32:04] questions, vous avez été
[32:06] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous
[32:08] inscrire à la période de
[32:10] questions, afin de vous
[32:11] permettre de demeurer à vos
[32:13] places jusqu'à l'appel de votre
[32:15] nom.
[32:16] (inaudible)
[32:17] - Merci beaucoup. Absolutely.
[32:20] Merci! Thank you. Yes, there is
[32:28] something going on in the
[32:29] States. There's a hockey game.
[32:31] JP said there is a hockey game.
[32:32] A man with perspective. I like
[32:34] that. Vous avez été accueilli à
[32:37] l'entrée pour vous inscrire à la
[32:38] période de questions, afin de
[32:40] vous permettre de demeurer à vos
[32:42] places jusqu'à l'appel de votre
[32:45] nom. Nous garderons 90 minutes
[32:47] pour la période des questions.
[32:49] Une personne à la fois au micro.
[32:51] Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[32:53] que les citoyens aient terminé
[32:55] de poser sa question et que vous
[32:57] soyez appelés avant de vous
[32:59] lever pour venir poser votre
[33:02] question. Deux, nous accordons
[33:03] la priorité aux résidentes et
[33:05] aux résidents de Pointe-Claire.
[33:09] Les non-résidents pourront poser
[33:10] leurs questions par la suite, si
[33:12] le temps n'est pas écouler.
[33:15] Question here you are greeted at
[33:16] the entrance to register so you
[33:17] can remain seated until your
[33:18] name is called.
[33:20] Société du patrimoine des
[33:21] Philippines de Montréal. We
[33:22] shall stick to the 90 minute
[33:23] time limit for your question
[33:25] period. One person at a time on
[33:27] the microphone. Thank you for
[33:29] waiting. Thank you for waiting
[33:31] for a citizen to ask their
[33:32] question and to be called before
[33:34] to ask yours. We give priority
[33:36] to the Pointe-Claire residents
[33:38] and three non residents can ask
[33:40] their questions afterwards if
[33:42] time has not run out. To begin,
[33:44] we will start with our
[33:48] honourable Society of the month
[33:50] of June you would like to
[33:54] address? Vous voudrez parler
[33:56] messieurs?
[33:59] Okay.
[34:12] >> Thank you. Can you hear me?
[34:14] Thank you, Mayor Thomas. Thank
[34:17] you everyone for the special
[34:19] evening that you are giving us a
[34:21] notice. My question is, it will
[34:24] be coming soon. I have to read
[34:28] first but I'm going to say.
[34:40] I forgot my reading glasses.
[34:45] There you go.
[34:54] >> If I carried two pairs of
[34:57] glasses --
[34:58] >> I am terribly sorry about
[34:59] that. Good evening, everyone.
[35:02] Bonsoir tout le monde! My name
[35:07] is Ramona, I'm a longtime
[35:09] Pointe-Claire resident and chair
[35:11] of the Filipino family services.
[35:14] We provide social services to
[35:16] the Filipino community in
[35:19] Québec. We recently wrote the
[35:22] municipality to support a
[35:24] request that Council adopt a
[35:26] motion to recognize June as a
[35:30] Filipino heritage month. That
[35:33] request was first made by the
[35:35] Filipino heritage society and
[35:38] united against hate Canada. As
[35:41] part of the national effort to
[35:43] promote the heritage month and
[35:45] to promote the twinning of
[35:48] cities in Canada with partners
[35:50] in the Philippines. It is a
[35:54] campaign that is great residents
[35:56] with us and with Filipinos
[35:59] everywhere in Canada. We think
[36:02] Mayor Thomas and the members of
[36:03] the Council for so rapidly
[36:06] following up. Tonight's motions,
[36:09] to recognize every June as
[36:13] Filipino heritage month in
[36:17] Pointe-Claire and we will be
[36:18] appreciated by the growing
[36:21] population of the Filipinos here
[36:22] in our city. A number of other
[36:26] local communities have adapted
[36:29] similar motions of this. For
[36:33] example, Côte Saint-Luc did last
[36:36] week. Others are planning local
[36:39] ceremonies next June. My
[36:41] question this evening is, can
[36:45] Council invite the Filipino
[36:47] community in Pointe-Claire to a
[36:50] flag raising ceremony or some
[36:52] other ceremonies at City Hall
[36:55] next June to mark the first
[36:58] heritage month in Pointe-Claire?
[37:02] Thank you, everyone, and good
[37:04] evening.
[37:05] >> Thank you, Ramona. I cannot
[37:08] speak for Council but -- you
[37:13] want to vote on it? Okay. All in
[37:18] favour? Yes, that is it, raising
[37:20] a flag or some kind of ceremony
[37:22] recognizing. Can we say some
[37:24] kind of ceremony, we can leave
[37:25] it open recognizing that June is
[37:30] month recognizing? Bringing up
[37:35] to caucus? Okay, we will bring
[37:37] it up to caucus. Thank you.
[37:43] Philippe Paré!
[37:49] Phillipe Pare.
[37:51] >> Good evening. Regarding 6.2 I
[37:56] was present with the question so
[37:58] I know much opposition and being
[38:00] the majority stakeholder so my
[38:02] question is, what is the City of
[38:04] Pointe-Claire and the
[38:05] association of suburban
[38:07] municipalities allowed to do
[38:09] towards the City of Montréal to
[38:10] be able to have your voices
[38:12] properly heard and respected?
[38:14] Are we speaking about a class
[38:15] action lawsuit as the only
[38:18] method to win your case?
[38:22] >> That is a very good question.
[38:25] Twitch I'm not sure the answer.
[38:27] We have all -- we are all
[38:29] passing resolutions and we are
[38:30] all objecting, we are all
[38:32] arguing for the status quo. The
[38:36] decision has not been to take
[38:39] aside for our against but to
[38:40] maintain the status quo and to
[38:42] lead the entire decision up to
[38:44] the scientific experts. Beyond
[38:47] that, I cannot say much more
[38:49] than that. I cannot speak for
[38:50] all the other mayors but there
[38:51] has been the position adopted
[38:54] that we object to the way it was
[38:55] decided in how it was done and
[38:57] we think the status quo
[38:59] should've maintained.
[39:00] >> Thank you.
[39:06] >> John?
[39:08] >> Good evening, everyone. I
[39:09] will try to be brief. I'm doing
[39:11] a follow-up. I was here back in
[39:13] September 3rd. This has to do
[39:15] with the water overflow from 99
[39:19] seater onto my property, 93
[39:21] seater. This goes back and I'm
[39:22] going to be real quick to bring
[39:25] everyone to give a context. This
[39:28] has been going on for two years.
[39:30] The summer, again, we had issues
[39:32] on our property and it was more
[39:34] over and above the huge rainfall
[39:36] we had. I met, on August 12, Mr.
[39:44] Tanguay, he referred me to the
[39:46] urban team which I met in mid
[39:53] September. In that meeting, they
[39:55] shared with me that they are
[39:57] still waiting for revised plans
[39:58] from the owner of 99 Cedar. That
[40:02] they were waiting to receive. In
[40:06] that same meeting, I was asked
[40:07] to provide photos and videos
[40:11] because I have kept track of the
[40:12] last two years of the damage
[40:13] that has been created on my
[40:15] property from the overflow, the
[40:17] water flow from 99. On October
[40:21] 2nd, I provided the USB stick
[40:26] with the additional information
[40:28] that captured last year, 2023
[40:30] and also 2024 that clearly
[40:34] identified the issues. I
[40:37] understand everyone is busy, the
[40:39] week of the 20th of October I
[40:41] sent up a follow-up email.
[40:45] Madame did respond to me. We had
[40:46] a call the following week where
[40:47] she gave me an update in terms
[40:51] of that they had received the
[40:53] city has received some updated
[40:57] plans. What was disappointing in
[40:59] that conversation with I was
[41:00] told for the first time from
[41:01] October 2nd to October 29th,
[41:03] when I spoke to her, that the
[41:05] USB stick, they were never -- I
[41:09] guess you're I teach apartment
[41:10] was not able to open it, which
[41:12] is pretty disappointing. It took
[41:13] three days. It was not full-time
[41:15] but it took me three days to put
[41:16] all the information together.
[41:18] Forget that, for a second. The
[41:22] engineering teen never looked at
[41:23] the photos and videos since they
[41:27] could not open the USB stick. I
[41:29] would love for someone to tell
[41:32] me what needs to happen so you
[41:34] can. The appropriate people, I
[41:35] do not know if it's the
[41:38] engineering team so they can
[41:39] look at the photos and the
[41:43] videos that have been shared. My
[41:47] question is, at the end of the
[41:49] day because I've been speaking
[41:50] to a lot of people, at the end
[41:51] of the day, who is responsible
[41:54] and accountable that this work
[41:56] gets done at 99 Cedar correctly
[41:59] to avoid the water flow that
[42:01] keeps coming on to my property?
[42:06] And in the instance where it
[42:08] does not work, what is the City
[42:11] prepared to do to help out
[42:14] because I have been told
[42:15] everything is going to be okay
[42:16] after the revised plan. I have
[42:18] not seen a revised plan. Once it
[42:21] gets done and something still
[42:23] does not work, who is
[42:25] accountable and responsible
[42:27] department that is going to help
[42:28] me out here.
[42:31] >> That is a very good question.
[42:35] Madame Verdon qui est
[42:36] responsable...
[42:37] >> I think your question has a
[42:38] lot of answers. It would be
[42:40] better because the personal file
[42:42] that we discussed outside of the
[42:43] public meeting so I can call you
[42:45] tomorrow and explain all the
[42:47] process. I will look with the
[42:52] I.T. department if it's possible
[42:53] to open up a file.
[42:55] >> That would be great. Before I
[42:56] handed it in I had that tested
[42:59] with three other people and it
[43:01] works. Now I understand
[43:02] everybody has firewalls and
[43:05] security thing so if I need to
[43:06] do something, I really think
[43:07] it's important that the
[43:08] engineering team gets to see how
[43:11] the water is flowing in the
[43:13] video and also the pictures that
[43:15] I sent.
[43:19] >> Go ahead.
[43:21] >> I'm finished. I am available
[43:24] tomorrow or Thursday if that is
[43:27] better but we can send an email
[43:28] or we can talk.
[43:30] >> No problem. I will send an
[43:31] email tomorrow and have a
[43:33] discussion on Thursday or Friday
[43:34] but we will find a time this
[43:35] week.
[43:36] >> Thank you.
[43:43] >> One question was not
[43:47] responded.
[43:51] [Inaudible]
[43:52] >> When needs to be done for
[43:55] the? Could you go to the
[43:57] microphone, sir.
[44:05] >> I was wondering because you
[44:07] did not answer the question,
[44:08] what needs exactly to be done
[44:10] from your side in order to be
[44:12] able to read the USB file. I am
[44:15] just curious.
[44:17] >> I would think, I'm going out
[44:18] on a limb, our I.T. department
[44:20] has to figure out and if it does
[44:21] not work and get back which I'm
[44:25] sorry has not happened sooner.
[44:27] Thank you for your question.
[44:28] Your follow-up. David Hunter?
[44:37] >> I'm a former resident of
[44:40] Pointe-Claire. I grew up here
[44:42] many years from the late 50s.
[44:44] Anyways, my question that I had
[44:46] concern the process of Bill 39
[44:50] --
[44:51] >> I am sorry, sir, are you a
[44:52] resident of Pointe-Claire?
[44:54] >> Not anymore. Do
[44:55] >> You live in Pointe-Claire?
[44:57] >> No.
[44:58] >> I'm sorry, you will have to
[44:59] wait after we hear the other
[45:02] person on the list.
[45:04] >> You call me. Here I am.
[45:07] >> We did not know.
[45:09] >> Carry on with your business.
[45:11] You answer my question anyway
[45:13] with respect to the amendment.
[45:17] >> Mr. Hunter, we will get
[45:20] through them. We look at to you.
[45:22] I promise.
[45:23] >> I haven't got the time. The
[45:27] American election is far more
[45:29] important.
[45:36] >> Chris Île?
[45:39] >> I'm not going to be exciting
[45:41] as him. Good evening. We are a
[45:50] lot of residents who live in
[45:51] close proximity to the two
[45:53] roundabouts on Chester and we
[45:55] crossed him every day in
[45:57] vehicles, on foot, our kids on
[45:59] their bikes, so on and so forth.
[46:06] There was no construction done
[46:07] to change the, Z Jeffrey moved a
[46:09] stop sign and put yield signs
[46:10] but nothing really changed.
[46:13] There are multiple blind
[46:15] corners, hedges, homes, there's
[46:17] also homes that face into the
[46:19] roundabout where people come in
[46:20] and out of their driveways. You
[46:22] would like either to has taught
[46:23] signs reinstalled or have other
[46:25] safety measures met, typical
[46:27] roundabouts force people to slow
[46:29] down as they enter the
[46:30] roundabout. These roundabouts
[46:31] are just square, they are square
[46:34] roundabouts which is stupid in
[46:36] and of itself but we would
[46:38] either like stop signs to be
[46:40] reinstalled or other safety
[46:41] measures to be taken because
[46:43] especially with the influx of
[46:44] people from Kubik, there are a
[46:47] couple hundred more cars coming
[46:48] through the neighbourhood, plus
[46:49] all the construction on des
[46:54] sources roundabout, et cetera,
[46:56] et cetera. What can we do to
[46:58] install and make it much safer
[46:59] for the residents?
[47:00] >> That is a good question. They
[47:02] are borderline roundabouts, you
[47:04] would call them?
[47:05] >> They were square four way
[47:06] stop for 100 years and then they
[47:09] may yield signs but nobody
[47:10] yields. People just come into
[47:11] the roundabout full speed and at
[47:13] a typical roundabout, it curves
[47:15] when you come into it and join
[47:16] the flow of traffic. Please do
[47:18] not. People especially coming
[47:19] north and south come at a full
[47:21] clip and also their homes and
[47:24] hedges that blind corners coming
[47:26] in. Sometimes you come into the
[47:29] roundabout or the person coming
[47:30] into the roundabout should yield
[47:32] if there is already a car. That
[47:33] does not happen. Cars in the
[47:35] roundabout stop, and then there
[47:36] is some sort of confusion or you
[47:38] are driving through the
[47:39] roundabout. Somebody comes into
[47:41] a blind corner, very dangerous
[47:43] and again there's lots of people
[47:45] just coming through the
[47:46] neighbourhood now from the
[47:47] developments that have gone up.
[47:49] It is a very dangerous
[47:50] situation. Some of the
[47:52] crosswalks or even blind so
[47:53] people crossing on bicycle with
[47:55] dog, so on and so forth so it's
[47:57] definitely something that needs
[47:58] to be looked at. We have many --
[48:01] I know many individuals that
[48:02] live at both roundabouts. It's
[48:04] definitely a -- if you sit there
[48:06] for 20 minutes, you are going to
[48:07] see a bunch of close calls.
[48:09] Either a police presence. I
[48:11] think the stuff signs are the
[48:13] easiest measure because, quite
[48:14] frankly, to break all the cement
[48:16] and reconfigure everything would
[48:18] be a huge expense. I think the
[48:21] question really is what can we
[48:22] do to make them safer? Stop
[48:25] signs being the easiest fix but
[48:26] anything at this point.
[48:28] >> You are lucky because our
[48:30] traffic guru is standing right
[48:32] in front of you or our code
[48:34] traffic guru, mister Tanguay and
[48:38] he and I are taking note of
[48:40] this. Absolutely we will look
[48:42] into it. The roundabout in
[48:47] Pointe-Claire has been an issue
[48:49] as a little one on top of
[48:51] Drayton. The integration of the
[48:53] roundabout has been intriguing
[48:55] and people favourite but whether
[48:57] we are used to them or adjusted
[48:59] or have learned how to use them
[49:00] as a society, as a city, is a
[49:04] good point. How we get beyond
[49:07] that is another issue. The stop
[49:09] signs -- there are laws as to
[49:11] where we can put stop signs and
[49:13] as I've learned in the last
[49:14] traffic Committee meeting we
[49:15] cannot just put out stop signs.
[49:18] There are actually rules. In the
[49:19] old days, we could put them up
[49:20] where we thought -- we cannot
[49:23] put them in front of my cats
[49:24] anymore. There has to be an
[49:26] intersection of roads.
[49:27] >> There is.
[49:28] >> All these rules for stop
[49:29] signs. If those rules do not
[49:31] prohibited, it can be looked
[49:32] into.
[49:33] >> Just from a cost analysis
[49:35] perspective because turning them
[49:37] into round about would be a huge
[49:39] undertaking and expense. If you
[49:41] go on Google maps, you can go
[49:43] back to 2011 and see where the
[49:44] start signs where and you go to
[49:46] 2012 and it's just a yield sign
[49:48] with nothing off.
[49:49] >> The road has not changed?
[49:50] >> No. Should I follow up with
[49:54] you too.
[49:55] >> Sure. Duly noted. He is the
[50:00] man. It's an excellent
[50:02] committee. You have been heard.
[50:04] I promise. Thank you.
[50:06] >> Thank you.
[50:11] >> Can Lyon.
[50:16] >> Good evening. Back in May,
[50:20] council passed -- I do not know
[50:23] if it was a motion or whatever
[50:25] -- for the aquatic centre to
[50:27] have the -- to change rooms
[50:32] fixed up and a sauna fix. When
[50:34] the is going to happen? Nothing,
[50:36] nothing has been done.
[50:39] >> That has been the bane of my
[50:41] existence. We cannot fix it
[50:43] until we do the overall
[50:45] construction project. It is
[50:47] lumped in. We cannot fix it and
[50:49] undo it again to renovate the
[50:51] rooms. It has to all be done in
[50:52] one shot. The timing of that is
[50:54] a good question. I think someone
[50:59] knows the answer.
[51:04] >> Unfortunately, for now, the
[51:06] project of the aquatic centre is
[51:09] not for next year so we will
[51:11] have to wait until we do not
[51:13] know yet, another date, but we
[51:17] adopt the CIP in October, and
[51:21] unfortunately for the budget, it
[51:23] would be tied to push back the
[51:25] project.
[51:26] >> Let me repeat that so I did
[51:27] not fully understand. You looks
[51:29] like you will have your plans
[51:30] ready now October, then sometime
[51:33] next year, the work will start.
[51:36] >> No, the plan -- with the
[51:41] adoption of the next CIP, we
[51:43] call the investment plan for the
[51:45] city for the next year, they
[51:48] will decide to push that project
[51:50] later on maybe in 2026.
[51:52] >> 2026?
[51:54] >> It will not be done in 2025,
[51:57] unfortunately.
[51:58] >> It has been down since before
[52:01] COVID or since COVID. That is
[52:06] terrible. A very simple
[52:09] question, the second one is
[52:10] that, who is responsible for the
[52:12] rams going on to the highways? I
[52:14] am thinking in particular the
[52:17] ramp going west on 20 when you
[52:19] are coming down
[52:26] Saint Jean, another ridge going
[52:27] south on 20 was. There are
[52:29] potholes pretty wicked in spots
[52:31] and I do not know if it's a city
[52:32] or the Ministry of
[52:36] Transportation.
[52:38] >> It depends where the
[52:42] potholes. Some of them are from
[52:44] the City.
[52:45] >> It's on the ramp itself. It's
[52:47] not on the highway, it's on the
[52:49] ramp. As you come off the Saint
[52:54] Jean, you go down, there's one
[52:56] before the curve and then as you
[52:58] get to the second curve that
[53:00] whips out towards the highway,
[53:02] there is some on the edge which
[53:04] are quite substantial.
[53:06] >> I will look at it and let you
[53:08] know.
[53:09] >> Thank you.
[53:10] >> One of them has been
[53:11] repaired. The really bad one. I
[53:13] take that every day. One of them
[53:15] has been repaired, I do not know
[53:16] if that is when you are talking
[53:17] about.
[53:18] >> I noticed it this morning.
[53:20] >> Got you.
[53:21] >> When you noticed is still
[53:22] there.
[53:28] Susan Weaver.
[53:37] >> Here is some information
[53:39] about the accident that you had
[53:42] had with the City lease car last
[53:45] April when you hit a deer up
[53:47] north. La date de la perte...
[53:52] d'un rapport... People six.
[53:56] April 7th. Total damaged, 38,000
[53:59] and someone sent and deductible
[54:01] 5000. The vehicle was located
[54:07] I'm curious as to why the
[54:09] accident was only reported the
[54:10] following day. As you said at
[54:12] the last council meeting, the
[54:14] car was insured but still one
[54:16] must pay deductible. The City
[54:18] has to pay the deductible 5000
[54:22] unless you are planning to take
[54:23] the responsibility for it. There
[54:26] are some added penalties but I
[54:27] must take the time to read the
[54:29] contract again, which you
[54:31] signed. Two things that you said
[54:32] at the October council meeting,
[54:34] which I found interesting.
[54:36] Number one, that you did not
[54:38] want a car when taken into
[54:40] office. Myself, I could not
[54:41] really understand why it was
[54:43] necessary to give the mayor a
[54:45] car during their mandates but
[54:46] you are the mayor, you could've
[54:49] refused and asked for a
[54:50] resolution to be passed to not
[54:52] continue the practice. Number
[54:54] two, no stipulations as to how
[54:56] the City car was to be used. You
[54:59] did not know whether you can
[55:00] pick up groceries with the car.
[55:02] Passing by the metro, in the
[55:05] plaza to pick up groceries on
[55:06] the home is reasonable but going
[55:08] up to St. had polite for
[55:10] groceries is not. If there was
[55:11] no stipulations when you receive
[55:13] the car as you said the last
[55:15] council meeting and then you
[55:17] concluded by saying it is as
[55:19] simple as that, I had a car, I
[55:21] no longer have a car. I had a
[55:23] city credit card, I no longer
[55:25] have one and I follow the rules.
[55:27] What were all the rules that you
[55:29] followed?
[55:30] >> There were not any. Is that
[55:32] your question? The following day
[55:34] I have no idea why that was
[55:36] reported the following day. It
[55:39] was in the morning. I should've
[55:41] been the following day. It
[55:44] happened 8:00 a.m. in the
[55:47] morning. 44 minutes from
[55:56] Pointe-Claire was where the
[55:57] accident happened. I did not --
[56:01] I was told I insisted on having
[56:04] a car. I had a good car. This is
[56:09] a park that comes with being the
[56:10] mayor of Pointe-Claire and you
[56:11] have to have a car. I took the
[56:14] car. I asked if I could return
[56:17] it and not have a car. If
[56:20] there's any removed ration that
[56:22] I can get but I was told I would
[56:24] have to have the car. There were
[56:26] no rules, no specifications, no
[56:28] rules whatsoever as to how to
[56:30] use the car. And never signed
[56:31] any contract. I was just given a
[56:33] car in that is the way it
[56:37] occurred.
[56:38] >> You did not sign a contract?
[56:39] >> No, I did not. No.
[56:43] >> Your name was on it.
[56:45] >> No.
[56:46] >> My second question was, who
[56:48] did you notify when you hit the
[56:50] deer?
[56:51] >> I did not notify anybody.
[56:54] They got on it quickly. The
[56:57] transport, the people that drive
[56:58] the roads called the police.
[57:01] Somebody from Québec, the Québec
[57:02] government, provincial
[57:03] government was on the road, saw
[57:05] me and came over or might have
[57:08] seen the accident and then
[57:09] called the police and the police
[57:12] came and they were great. They
[57:13] were with me for probably 5 to
[57:16] 10 minutes and a tow truck was
[57:18] there five minutes later and
[57:20] then I called my son to pick me
[57:23] up and they were checking to
[57:24] make sure I was not in any too
[57:25] much shop because I wasn't a bit
[57:27] of shop.
[57:28] >> I imagine so.
[57:29] >> I did survive. I was kind of
[57:32] pleased about that. Adding that,
[57:34] I cannot tell you much more.
[57:55] >> Hi. The residual presented by
[58:02] Eric Stork this evening, the
[58:03] City Council needs to know of
[58:04] the provincial legislation. He
[58:06] would have a big impact on our
[58:08] City. It is my understanding
[58:09] that steps have already been
[58:10] taken. I think our lawyer is
[58:13] going to have gone to some
[58:16] information meetings and so
[58:17] forth to inform City Council
[58:19] about the new legislation it
[58:20] would be quite shocking to find
[58:22] out that this was not already in
[58:24] progress. Otherwise, as well,
[58:28] this legislation essentially
[58:30] says that when green space lots
[58:32] are re-zoned as green space, the
[58:35] developer cannot claim for lost
[58:36] future profits. Excuse me, I got
[58:39] a bit of a cold. Only for what
[58:41] they paid for the land. Cadillac
[58:43] Fairview recently sold off a
[58:45] step of the fourth of the REM to
[58:47] allow the expansion of Fairview
[58:49] Avenue, with the City should be
[58:50] doing is immediately zoning all
[58:52] of the force including this
[58:53] strip as green space. Let the
[58:56] Ram expropriate part of the
[58:57] parking lot for the road
[58:58] expansion instead of the forests
[59:02] parts of the strip. As to paying
[59:04] for market value, study for the
[59:08] MU2 first, rezone it. Right now
[59:11] it's value is greatly inflated
[59:12] bites no rose owning. Right now,
[59:17] both MU1 and MU2, have no zones.
[59:20] No height restrictions, not a
[59:21] lot coverage, no restrictions of
[59:23] types of commercials are special
[59:25] product, not even minimum
[59:26] setbacks. This is what Cadillac
[59:28] Fairview is fighting for the
[59:30] hold on to. Pointe-Claire now
[59:32] has an opportunity to maintain
[59:34] the freeze, as citizens what
[59:35] they want on both MU1 and MU2
[59:38] and rezoned them according to
[59:40] what we want, not the zones but
[59:42] virtually no rules as exist
[59:45] today.
[59:53] After resolution 2023 040, and
[59:58] our city manager tried to reach
[59:59] out with negotiations with
[1:00:00] Cadillac Fairview refused
[1:00:03] outright. Luckily for us, now we
[1:00:04] can make some zoning rules with
[1:00:05] teeth and negotiate holding on
[1:00:07] to at least a few winning cards
[1:00:09] instead of the empty hands we
[1:00:10] have now. Like to know that the
[1:00:14] City would start the process of
[1:00:17] the zoning. Including the space
[1:00:21] by the REM. And re-table you're
[1:00:26] resolution to allow citizen
[1:00:27] consultation sessions about both
[1:00:29] Fairview forest and the maximum
[1:00:31] height of buildings on MU1. This
[1:00:33] is because the resolution passed
[1:00:36] by Eric Stork puts citizen
[1:00:41] consultations not to formulate
[1:00:42] our planning program but some
[1:00:44] sort of nebulous idea to next
[1:00:48] February. We need them soon and
[1:00:50] before the Planning Program is
[1:00:52] actually formalized and paid. I
[1:00:59] think we need citizen
[1:01:01] consultations but most
[1:01:02] importantly why don't we just
[1:01:04] zone the forest green. We can do
[1:01:07] it. It's within power of the
[1:01:09] City to do it and then we would
[1:01:10] have somebody to negotiate from
[1:01:14] as well. We have got to get the
[1:01:18] MU1 with some zoning
[1:01:19] regulations. It is incredible to
[1:01:21] me that this huge piece in our
[1:01:24] city has just virtually no
[1:01:26] zoning regulations. I mean, it's
[1:01:29] a free-for-all. How did this
[1:01:31] happen? It's amazing. I would
[1:01:34] like to know, would you try to
[1:01:36] start the process soon to zone
[1:01:39] the land green or we can go
[1:01:41] against a resolution tonight as
[1:01:42] well?
[1:01:43] >> We can start that tonight
[1:01:46] actually because the resolution
[1:01:47] has changed dramatically. You
[1:01:53] are probably referring to you
[1:01:54] may have seen a different
[1:01:56] version of it.
[1:01:57] >> Yes, but it does not include
[1:01:59] immediately rezoning the line
[1:02:01] green. All this process of
[1:02:03] finding information about
[1:02:04] funding and about prices and
[1:02:05] about laws but we already know
[1:02:07] we can do this. It's quite clear
[1:02:09] that we can do this. Why not to
[1:02:11] it first? What is going to
[1:02:13] happen is Fairview is going to
[1:02:15] -- the strip sold to the REM,
[1:02:19] the trees will be gone. That
[1:02:20] will be lost. They are trying to
[1:02:24] sell off that they do not want
[1:02:27] bit by bit.
[1:02:31] >> The issue for us, we came to
[1:02:32] this tonight, is we are in the
[1:02:35] process and our staff was on
[1:02:37] this. They have already been
[1:02:39] well ahead of the game on Bill
[1:02:41] 39. We are going to get -- I
[1:02:43] agree with you -- we absolutely
[1:02:44] have to understand the
[1:02:45] implications and the powers that
[1:02:48] are accorded to us legally with
[1:02:50] that law. We have to do it
[1:02:52] properly so there are no
[1:02:54] repercussions. We are looking to
[1:02:56] that effect as we speak. The
[1:02:58] resolution that you read it's
[1:03:00] hopefully taken into account. It
[1:03:03] emphasizes the resolution
[1:03:04] emphasized still 39 and what it
[1:03:06] allows us to do. From what I
[1:03:09] sense, today and in the ridge
[1:03:12] version of that resolution,
[1:03:13] there is a possibility of doing
[1:03:14] exactly that. Whether it happens
[1:03:16] or not, that is all other thing.
[1:03:17] There is a possibility.
[1:03:19] >> If we let the forest be with
[1:03:23] it's not-so-green space for at
[1:03:24] least for five months, what is
[1:03:26] going to be left of it?
[1:03:28] >> Hopefully it will be okay in
[1:03:31] for five months. Who knows.
[1:03:34] >> Can anyone stop the REM?
[1:03:38] >> The REM is a whole different
[1:03:40] creature.
[1:03:41] >> It can expropriate the
[1:03:42] parking lot. Why take the side
[1:03:43] of Fairview, which is a
[1:03:44] beautiful force. Why not take
[1:03:45] the side that is the parking
[1:03:47] lot?
[1:03:48] >> You have to ask them on that,
[1:03:49] I agree with you and yours and I
[1:03:50] do not know why that did not
[1:03:52] happen on the outset. I am
[1:03:54] perplexed as a mayor. I do not
[1:03:55] know why the buses were moved,
[1:03:59] why they should have stayed in
[1:04:02] the Fairview space. I do not
[1:04:03] know why that was moved. This
[1:04:05] was all done prior.
[1:04:07] >> We do not know if it was done
[1:04:08] in secret behind closed doors.
[1:04:10] >> Excuse me?
[1:04:15] >> Are we having an exchange?
[1:04:17] >> I am answering your question.
[1:04:20] We will stick to maybe two
[1:04:21] questions here. I will answer --
[1:04:25] you are right I have answered
[1:04:27] the first one. The second one,
[1:04:31] zoning it. We are hopefully
[1:04:32] working towards that. How to do
[1:04:35] so legally and safely, that is a
[1:04:36] question number one. What is
[1:04:38] question number two? I
[1:04:39] remembered it a second ago.
[1:04:41] >> If you will reinstate your
[1:04:42] resolution to give us
[1:04:44] consultations. Not some nebulous
[1:04:46] some sort of consultation next
[1:04:48] February.
[1:04:49] >> I am concerned about the
[1:04:51] consultations but it is
[1:04:52] specified in the resolution that
[1:04:54] there will be but as I said
[1:04:56] earlier, I am sincerely
[1:04:59] concerned about how solid that
[1:05:02] will be moving forward. I agree
[1:05:04] with you, I share your concerns
[1:05:05] with that. I thought my
[1:05:10] resolution was simply for
[1:05:12] consultation. That is all it was
[1:05:14] for. That is all I wanted to be.
[1:05:16] I do not think we should be
[1:05:18] altering or changing the City or
[1:05:19] doing any major urban planning
[1:05:22] decisions in the city until we
[1:05:24] have public consultation. I have
[1:05:26] not seen enough of it and we
[1:05:27] have not got enough information
[1:05:28] from it to move forward. As a
[1:05:31] Democrat, I concur then I feel
[1:05:34] public consultation should be a
[1:05:36] priority, it should happen
[1:05:37] sooner as opposed to later.
[1:05:39] Beyond that, I cannot tell you
[1:05:40] much more than that. We are
[1:05:42] moving towards it. It's a stated
[1:05:44] goal in the resolution. There is
[1:05:45] no timeline on it but who knows.
[1:05:49] That is the best I can answer.
[1:05:52] >> Thank you.
[1:05:54] >> Thank you.
[1:05:57] >> Mayor, I like to point
[1:05:59] something out. Maybe there might
[1:06:00] be some misunderstanding about
[1:06:02] the City has no power over the
[1:06:04] REM. Once the provincial
[1:06:05] government passed legislation to
[1:06:07] enable the REM track to be built
[1:06:09] wherever the -- excuse me, I am
[1:06:12] talking. I am talking. Wherever
[1:06:14] the builders shows, they did not
[1:06:18] the law allow them to do this
[1:06:20] without any public
[1:06:21] consultations, without any
[1:06:22] permission from the City. They
[1:06:24] purchased the land at the
[1:06:26] Fairview forest for their use
[1:06:28] and the city has no say over
[1:06:31] that.
[1:06:32] >> I already understood all of
[1:06:35] that.
[1:06:39] >> Kathy?
[1:06:47] >> Good evening. I will start by
[1:06:52] mentioning a few details about
[1:06:54] our little street. It is called
[1:06:57] chestnut avenue. It's called an
[1:07:00] avenue but what we are talking
[1:07:01] about here is essentially one
[1:07:05] block. On that block, there are
[1:07:07] approximately 18 houses. In
[1:07:15] 2008, the water and road
[1:07:18] renovation was done on Heather
[1:07:21] Avenue. At that time, in 2008,
[1:07:23] our street was supposed to have
[1:07:25] been completed in the next
[1:07:28] five-year plan. That would have
[1:07:30] brought us to 2013 when our
[1:07:33] start -- streak would have been
[1:07:34] finished. That did not occur and
[1:07:37] then more recently we were
[1:07:39] supposed to be part of a
[1:07:40] three-year plan whereby Oak
[1:07:43] Ridge would be done and then
[1:07:45] Sunday all would be done and
[1:07:47] then chestnut would be done. At
[1:07:49] the time, the workers on those
[1:07:52] street said that the were street
[1:07:53] was actually our little block.
[1:07:57] We were waiting patiently.
[1:08:00] Despite a street that has been
[1:08:02] full of problems. For instance,
[1:08:04] we are a street with four open
[1:08:06] ditches. We have four open
[1:08:08] ditches in one block. We have
[1:08:11] about a dozen children out on
[1:08:13] the street because things have
[1:08:15] changed, older people have sold,
[1:08:16] younger people are moving in,
[1:08:18] there are some babies, they are
[1:08:21] kitty cats. Now sunny Dale does
[1:08:25] not have stopped signed, we have
[1:08:27] stop signs at both ends of our
[1:08:29] blocks. Now what is happening in
[1:08:32] multiple residents are
[1:08:34] mentioning, everybody has been
[1:08:36] seeing big vehicles and buses
[1:08:38] using our street. I guess
[1:08:40] because the other one looks more
[1:08:42] residential because it does not
[1:08:43] have stopped signs so they stop
[1:08:46] and then they step on the gas
[1:08:48] and anyway. We are being used by
[1:08:51] multiple vehicles and school
[1:08:54] buses are one that everyone
[1:08:55] keeps mentioning. We have a road
[1:08:58] that looks like a patchwork
[1:09:01] quilt from all of the digging
[1:09:04] every winter and all the
[1:09:07] breakages of the underground
[1:09:09] pipe system. We also have a lot
[1:09:12] of puddles of water every time
[1:09:15] it rains. This one normally
[1:09:17] would be too much of a problem,
[1:09:19] the kids would love it, but we
[1:09:20] do have in that one block, some
[1:09:24] very compromised individuals
[1:09:27] vis-à-vis visual, visual acuity
[1:09:30] and they are not driving cars.
[1:09:32] They are only walking. When they
[1:09:35] walk and they cannot see and the
[1:09:37] place is full of puddles, it is
[1:09:39] pretty bad. Now there are cracks
[1:09:43] everywhere. You cannot move
[1:09:44] without being on a crack.
[1:09:49] There's one big one growing
[1:09:52] grass. We have lived with this a
[1:09:53] long time and recently we were
[1:09:55] under the impression that in
[1:09:57] spring of 2025, our road would
[1:09:59] be done. We have had conflicting
[1:10:05] information, several residents
[1:10:06] have contacted the engineering
[1:10:08] department and have been told
[1:10:10] that they are not the ones that
[1:10:12] changed the plans. Then, as
[1:10:16] terror knows, I contacted her
[1:10:18] and I told her what we had been
[1:10:21] told that it was the councillors
[1:10:24] here that changed the plan. We
[1:10:27] do not care about who changed
[1:10:29] the plan, what I am here for is
[1:10:32] we have made a little petition,
[1:10:34] we are not very many on the
[1:10:36] street. It reads, we the
[1:10:38] taxpayers and residents of
[1:10:39] Chestnut Avenue, hereby petition
[1:10:40] the councillors to commence and
[1:10:42] complete the necessary watering
[1:10:43] road renovations for our
[1:10:45] streets, for spring of 2025,
[1:10:47] without further delay. Chestnut
[1:10:49] avenue is the only street in our
[1:10:51] neighbourhood that has recently
[1:10:52] had neither water nor row
[1:10:55] renovation, never mind the
[1:10:56] connecting street and every
[1:10:58] street in our neighbourhood has
[1:11:00] been completed. We are extremely
[1:11:06] disappointed. I have lived in
[1:11:07] Pointe-Claire since 1972. This
[1:11:11] is my third address because we
[1:11:14] bought a semi detached, and when
[1:11:15] the family grew, we bought a big
[1:11:18] two storey. With my off rioters
[1:11:19] and joint replacements, et
[1:11:21] cetera, et cetera, we went into
[1:11:22] this nice bungalow on chestnut.
[1:11:25] It is a great street to live on
[1:11:27] except we do have a lot of
[1:11:30] issues in the summer when
[1:11:32] baseball is on, our little block
[1:11:34] is parked up on both sides with
[1:11:36] many peoples wheels resting on
[1:11:38] our grass. We have a variety of
[1:11:41] issues with the street. We do
[1:11:43] not have curves and we have a
[1:11:46] lot of cracks so my question is,
[1:11:49] will the Councillors please,
[1:11:52] please on behalf of my residents
[1:11:54] on my street and I had four of
[1:11:56] them here, one had to leave, I
[1:11:59] still have three residents here.
[1:12:02] Not just myself but I'm not the
[1:12:04] only one getting older. I have
[1:12:06] had three joint replacements. I
[1:12:08] fear walking on my own street. I
[1:12:12] fear it because it is too easy
[1:12:14] to trip. I will go for a small
[1:12:18] walk and make sure I have my
[1:12:20] cane with the four-foot and
[1:12:22] things like that but you never
[1:12:24] know when somebody is going to
[1:12:26] really get injured on our
[1:12:28] street. As I say, there are more
[1:12:31] children. Some of the people
[1:12:32] driving using our street is a
[1:12:34] short cut to get over to the
[1:12:37] hospital. They are stepping on
[1:12:38] the gas. One of our residence is
[1:12:41] not here but I was outside and
[1:12:45] saw what happened one day and
[1:12:48] she had a confrontation with the
[1:12:50] driver. Myself, I was told to F
[1:12:57] you nowhere. But I stop for the
[1:12:59] stop sign, I informed, we have
[1:13:01] children here, we have pets
[1:13:02] here. People are on the road and
[1:13:04] the road looks narrow.
[1:13:05] >> Can I ask you to sort of in a
[1:13:10] question for ask what you ask of
[1:13:12] us because we are not the
[1:13:14] police. What is you -- what you
[1:13:16] are talking about is something
[1:13:17] we cannot regulate. We cannot
[1:13:19] control speeding. That is all
[1:13:23] police but the driver's
[1:13:24] behaviour, that kind of thing,
[1:13:25] we cannot do. Is there anything
[1:13:27] specific that you think the city
[1:13:28] can do for Chestnut?
[1:13:30] >> I think the renovation needs
[1:13:32] to be done because a couple of
[1:13:34] us have had to start filtering
[1:13:36] our water because a metallic
[1:13:39] takes. We do not know if the
[1:13:42] water pipes bringing water into
[1:13:44] our homes for us to use every
[1:13:46] day whether we are drinking
[1:13:48] water with any residue from
[1:13:50] these old pipes that are from
[1:13:52] the 19 50s. We are just asking.
[1:13:57] >> I would hope engineering
[1:13:58] would have that under control. I
[1:14:01] suspect you are not but are you
[1:14:02] on the list? Are you on the
[1:14:06] list? I cannot go into the
[1:14:09] audience. It's only the person
[1:14:10] at the microphone. No worries.
[1:14:15] All I can tell you is that I
[1:14:17] doubt very much that Council
[1:14:20] overruled or banished your
[1:14:23] street repaving. My time with
[1:14:26] this council, we have not spoken
[1:14:28] about prioritizing streets. It's
[1:14:30] generally done by public works
[1:14:32] and it's done by a professional
[1:14:36] process in according to need and
[1:14:37] there's a lot of streets Denis
[1:14:39] doing. I hear you.
[1:14:41] >> We've had a need for years.
[1:14:44] >> There are others who have
[1:14:45] had. And I heard them as well. I
[1:14:46] can only say that I trust in my
[1:14:49] professionals and they make the
[1:14:51] decisions in the -- it's not a
[1:14:56] political -- hang on, it's not a
[1:14:57] political thing. You do not
[1:14:59] lobby and say that will get done
[1:15:02] and it's not what we do. Excuse
[1:15:05] me, I'm surprised at that and I
[1:15:09] would like the engineering to
[1:15:11] say which ones and how that
[1:15:13] happened because I never saw
[1:15:16] that.
[1:15:20] >> Can I comment? It's not that
[1:15:22] the councillors decide which
[1:15:24] streets are being done or not
[1:15:26] done. It's that when our team
[1:15:29] comes to us with all of the
[1:15:31] directors and the executive team
[1:15:32] comes to us to work on the
[1:15:33] budget and the capital
[1:15:35] investment plan, they present us
[1:15:37] with the information with the
[1:15:39] budgets that are required and
[1:15:41] the projects that are more
[1:15:44] urgent. And with the financial
[1:15:47] status of the city. And
[1:15:49] unfortunately this year, as I
[1:15:52] explained, the Council have to
[1:15:53] make a decision based on the
[1:15:55] advice of our professionals that
[1:15:57] work at the City to push not
[1:16:00] just Chestnut but all street
[1:16:03] projects. If you do a capital
[1:16:05] investment plan, you will see
[1:16:07] that there is not any streets
[1:16:09] being done unless they are being
[1:16:11] done conjointly with another
[1:16:12] city in which we are obliged to
[1:16:15] participate. We had financial
[1:16:17] constraints that forced us to
[1:16:20] push to cut the budget and push
[1:16:22] many projects down the pipe. It
[1:16:24] doesn't mean that it's not going
[1:16:25] to happen. It just means that
[1:16:27] unfortunately, we weren't in the
[1:16:28] financial position to make it
[1:16:30] happen this year. Or this
[1:16:33] upcoming year. When they say
[1:16:35] that Council made that decision,
[1:16:38] yes, we have the final say and
[1:16:39] we do vote on the capital
[1:16:40] investment plan, but it is based
[1:16:42] on the advice that's given to us
[1:16:45] from our team and our
[1:16:46] professionals who do their job
[1:16:48] very well and who make a lot of
[1:16:52] sacrifices in their own
[1:16:53] departments and who weigh in and
[1:16:55] measure every suggestion they
[1:16:57] give us and the suggestion was
[1:16:59] that we had to make $20 million
[1:17:01] in cuts, I believe. $20 million
[1:17:05] in cuts in the budget. More or
[1:17:08] less of budgets we had
[1:17:11] anticipated. So we've had to
[1:17:12] push those projects,
[1:17:14] unfortunately, in order to have
[1:17:15] a healthy bottom line. Yes,
[1:17:20] engineering may say we made that
[1:17:21] decision because we put our
[1:17:22] final stamp on it, but we have
[1:17:24] no say in which streets are
[1:17:26] being done or not done. They are
[1:17:28] presented to us as the most
[1:17:30] important streets. They are
[1:17:31] ranked importance not just on
[1:17:33] the asphalt but also on the
[1:17:34] conditions of the pipes, the
[1:17:36] number of water main breaks, the
[1:17:38] discolouration of water,, et
[1:17:40] cetera. There is the sewage
[1:17:42] system that gets involved as
[1:17:43] well. A project like this is
[1:17:44] maybe five or $6 million. And
[1:17:48] so, we had to make decisions
[1:17:49] this year where a lot of
[1:17:51] projects got unfortunately
[1:17:53] pushed a little bit down the
[1:17:55] pipe, so to speak, just because
[1:17:57] of the financial constraints.
[1:18:00] >> The street has been getting
[1:18:03] pushed since 2008. So, I mean,
[1:18:08] there is a lot of priorities and
[1:18:10] you are doing a lot of good
[1:18:11] work. We can see from all the
[1:18:13] projects that are going on in
[1:18:15] Pointe-Claire, and they are all
[1:18:16] very worthy, it's just that we
[1:18:20] are only one block along. And
[1:18:22] some people have told me their
[1:18:23] water has been Braun for weeks.
[1:18:26] It's not right now, but they've
[1:18:29] experienced having dirty water
[1:18:30] for weeks.
[1:18:31] >> That's duly noted. Let the
[1:18:33] authorities know and send an
[1:18:35] email. Let the authorities know
[1:18:37] and the professionals will go in
[1:18:39] and will respond as to whether
[1:18:40] there is a problem with the
[1:18:43] water. It's not us. This is a
[1:18:46] professional science. Water is
[1:18:48] not Council.
[1:18:49] >> So, we would send our
[1:18:53] information
[1:18:54] (applause)
[1:18:55] >> To public works.
[1:18:58] >> Well, public works --.
[1:19:01] >> I've got to let some others
[1:19:03] speak. Thank you.
[1:19:04] >> Can I just add, the project
[1:19:05] is not cancelled. We are not
[1:19:09] cancelling doing our roadwork.
[1:19:11] We would just -- we were not
[1:19:13] able to complete certain
[1:19:15] projects in the timeline we
[1:19:16] would like. Please be reassured
[1:19:18] that the street has not fallen
[1:19:19] off our radar. It is certainly
[1:19:21] still on our radar and
[1:19:23] engineering is keeping track of
[1:19:25] the needs of the different roads
[1:19:26] in order to present us next year
[1:19:28] with a new capital investment
[1:19:31] plan.
[1:19:32] >> Keith Kelly?
[1:19:37] >> One of our --.
[1:19:45] >> Evening, Council. My name is
[1:19:47] Keith Kelly. You don't know, you
[1:19:50] know of me. I've been a lifetime
[1:19:54] resident of Pointe-Claire and
[1:19:55] I've paid my taxes for 60 years.
[1:19:58] You will now guess my age. I
[1:20:02] came here tonight basically to
[1:20:04] thank the Council for the work
[1:20:07] they have done over a number of
[1:20:09] years. The last two or three
[1:20:11] years or more, I've probably
[1:20:13] given consideration in the past,
[1:20:15] but if you've done a great job
[1:20:16] with us councillors or me and
[1:20:18] the rest of the citizens. And I
[1:20:21] think you have done so
[1:20:23] particularly recently under very
[1:20:26] unique and unusual
[1:20:28] circumstances. Now, when I say
[1:20:34] that,
[1:20:39] .
[1:20:51] And what's happening at our
[1:20:53] recent council meetings. The
[1:20:56] last two and a half years have
[1:20:59] been a disaster. As far as I'm
[1:21:01] concerned. It is unfortunate but
[1:21:03] it is the way it has been. And I
[1:21:07] find that the icing on the cake
[1:21:09] for me was what happened on
[1:21:14] October 15th, when the Mayor
[1:21:17] declared that he was going to
[1:21:19] have a special meeting on an
[1:21:21] issue close to him. Something he
[1:21:23] was so very supportive of, which
[1:21:26] partly is the Fairview forest,
[1:21:30] which I would personally like to
[1:21:32] see, and I know there is a lady
[1:21:33] here, Genevieve, who would also,
[1:21:36] who has done a of a good job
[1:21:38] personally and professionally to
[1:21:41] work on the cause and problems.
[1:21:44] Now, when I talk about
[1:21:47] disappointment, the Council, the
[1:21:49] vote the other night was the
[1:21:52] 15th one, the resolution, the
[1:21:54] vote showed very, very clearly 7
[1:21:56] to 1 of councils -- councillors
[1:22:01] voted against the mayor's
[1:22:02] proposed proposals. That tells
[1:22:03] me something.
[1:22:06] >> And Councillor Tremblay
[1:22:09] support.
[1:22:10] >> Yes. He did support. And I
[1:22:12] would say I will also say
[1:22:14] something else, I think he is
[1:22:16] very professional in the way he
[1:22:18] talks and behaves here at
[1:22:20] Council. He has his views,
[1:22:21] that's fine. And now, the other
[1:22:26] things I would like to talk
[1:22:28] about --
[1:22:29] >> Mr. Kelly, are you talking or
[1:22:30] are you asking a question?
[1:22:31] >> I will ask you two questions.
[1:22:34] >> Okay, okay. That's one
[1:22:37] preamble. Do you have a second
[1:22:38] preamble? Usually, there's a
[1:22:40] preamble and a question, Mr.
[1:22:42] Kelly. There is a preamble and a
[1:22:43] question and the preamble --
[1:22:45] >> My preamble is not finished.
[1:22:47] I will ask my question after. As
[1:22:49] far as I'm concerned, some of
[1:22:50] the things that bothers me most
[1:22:53] is seeing what happens here at
[1:22:55] Council. Is that I have never,
[1:22:57] in all the years I have come to
[1:23:00] Council, see the mayor standing
[1:23:01] up and voting against something
[1:23:03] totally against the rest of the
[1:23:06] group. That is something I have
[1:23:07] never seen. It's my
[1:23:09] understanding, rightly or
[1:23:10] wrongly, that the Mayor votes
[1:23:12] when there is a tie. Otherwise,
[1:23:13] he doesn't vote. I may be wrong.
[1:23:16] That's my understanding over the
[1:23:17] years and it's the first time
[1:23:19] I've ever seen the mayor of
[1:23:22] Pointe-Claire either vote for or
[1:23:24] against something totally
[1:23:26] against the councillors. The
[1:23:32] other thing that bothers me the
[1:23:34] most is you've never had a
[1:23:37] situation at these Council
[1:23:39] meetings where the mayor makes a
[1:23:41] statement or something and one
[1:23:43] of the councillors, two, three
[1:23:46] or four of you have done it over
[1:23:48] the past little while and have
[1:23:50] had to call a point of order and
[1:23:53] correct you on something. And
[1:23:55] that is totally unusual. Very
[1:23:58] unusual. Something like that
[1:23:59] should be taking place back
[1:24:01] there, in the back room. Which
[1:24:03] is where it's been done for the
[1:24:05] last 30 or 40 years, that I know
[1:24:08] about. Not here on the floor.
[1:24:10] You shouldn't have to do that.
[1:24:13] The other thing is that --
[1:24:16] excuse me.
[1:24:17] >> Mr. Kelly, you will just list
[1:24:19] the grievances or ask a
[1:24:21] question? How long does the list
[1:24:23] go?
[1:24:24] >> No, I have to tell you what
[1:24:25] I'm thinking.
[1:24:26] >> No, no, Mr. Kelly --
[1:24:34] >> I have for five answers
[1:24:36] already.
[1:24:37] >> I have to say that the
[1:24:38] Council does a great job. Use it
[1:24:42] here as the mayor and saying
[1:24:43] Pointe-Claire is working great.
[1:24:44] Everything is great.
[1:24:45] Pointe-Claire is the best city
[1:24:46] in the West Island and it has
[1:24:48] been and I hope to keep it that
[1:24:50] way. But you have to have a
[1:24:52] Council that does the work and
[1:24:53] can work together and have a
[1:24:56] mayor who supposedly is managing
[1:24:58] and supporting. But it's not
[1:25:00] evident to me that you are doing
[1:25:02] that. Maybe that's the problem.
[1:25:08] I would believe that if there is
[1:25:11] a problem, it's an assumption,
[1:25:12] but if there is a problem that
[1:25:16] Councillor has or a councillor
[1:25:17] group are having with you as a
[1:25:19] mayor, I have to assume, rightly
[1:25:21] or wrongly, that the
[1:25:23] administration must be having
[1:25:24] similar problems. That's
[1:25:26] unfortunate. I think the things
[1:25:32] -- in Pointe-Claire,
[1:25:34] Pointe-Claire has to do a lot of
[1:25:35] things that I don't like. I wish
[1:25:37] I could go back to the days when
[1:25:38] I was born here. And that's just
[1:25:40] not realistic. Unfortunately,
[1:25:43] things happen and we are
[1:25:45] building big buildings. I don't
[1:25:46] think the condos. You don't eat
[1:25:48] them either. But that's the way
[1:25:50] it is. The provincial, the
[1:25:53] federal, the local, Montréal,
[1:25:55] they are saying that's what
[1:25:56] we've got to do and we are doing
[1:25:57] it. Finally, as far as I am
[1:26:01] concerned, I think myself, we
[1:26:03] would be better as a mayor to
[1:26:06] spend a little more time around
[1:26:08] the office here rather than out
[1:26:12] at all the gatherings to get
[1:26:17] yourself, take pictures and post
[1:26:18] them on Facebook. I, mean I get
[1:26:21] a little tired of looking at
[1:26:23] your Facebook. There is Tim
[1:26:25] Thomas with his camera taking a
[1:26:27] picture of himself.
[1:26:29] >> Mr. Kelly --
[1:26:32] >> Excuse, me folks. I concur. I
[1:26:34] would like to get a question.
[1:26:36] Mr. Kelly, there are other
[1:26:37] people on the list that would
[1:26:38] like to ask questions. Can I
[1:26:42] answer all out? I have like five
[1:26:43] or six. I'm running out of
[1:26:45] responses. I'm running out of
[1:26:47] paper. Because so many incorrect
[1:26:49] accusations have been thrown out
[1:26:50] that I have to correct. I'm
[1:26:51] running out of paper to write
[1:26:53] on. I want to keep going. Do you
[1:26:54] have a question? Before just the
[1:26:58] insinuations?
[1:26:59] >> I would go a little further.
[1:27:00] >> I believe you could. Your
[1:27:04] question has the pertain to what
[1:27:05] you just said.
[1:27:06] >> My question is, are you, as
[1:27:08] the Mayor, prepared to get on
[1:27:10] board with council and the
[1:27:13] administration in the best
[1:27:16] interest of the citizens? And
[1:27:20] you can run the city, and if you
[1:27:22] cannot run the city alone, if
[1:27:24] you can't get on board -- on
[1:27:27] board, I suggest that you resign
[1:27:29] and leave one of the councillors
[1:27:34] to finish the term allotted that
[1:27:36] you have.
[1:27:37] >> Unfortunately, Mr. Kelly, an
[1:27:39] awful lot of people disagree
[1:27:40] with you on. That I was elected
[1:27:41] Mayor for a reason. One would
[1:27:44] hope that the administration,'s
[1:27:46] councillors get along with
[1:27:47] mayors as well and we work in
[1:27:50] tandem. You are lumping the
[1:27:52] administration into your
[1:27:54] question was an unfair one. They
[1:27:56] are non political and they don't
[1:27:57] like to be lumped in like that,
[1:27:59] like you've just done, implying
[1:28:00] that they are adopting a
[1:28:03] political stance where they
[1:28:04] concur one way or the other. I
[1:28:06] assure, you from my knowledge,
[1:28:07] the administration and I get
[1:28:09] along just fine. And there is no
[1:28:11] rancor and no harsh feelings
[1:28:13] between us. The meeting that you
[1:28:18] said I called on the issue that
[1:28:19] was close to me, it's not close
[1:28:22] to me. It's close to everybody
[1:28:24] in the city. It was on building
[1:28:26] height and the City green
[1:28:29] spaces, which was not an issue
[1:28:30] that's close to me. It's an
[1:28:31] issue that is a dominant issue
[1:28:32] in Pointe-Claire society, sir.
[1:28:35] It was not self serving in any
[1:28:37] way, shape or form. The calling
[1:28:44] a meeting that was on an issue,
[1:28:47] to me, has been done. Special
[1:28:48] council meetings have been
[1:28:50] called by other members of
[1:28:52] Council on three separate
[1:28:54] occasions, besides. Me so it is
[1:28:55] done already. Against my wishes.
[1:28:58] And this was prior to my special
[1:29:00] meeting. It was done on three
[1:29:01] separate occasions against my
[1:29:03] wishes and against me. They were
[1:29:04] called against me. But I guess
[1:29:08] the most important answer I can
[1:29:10] give you, I remember when I was
[1:29:15] running for mayor in the last
[1:29:18] mandate, prior to running for
[1:29:19] mayor when I was a citizen, I
[1:29:20] would come to Council meetings
[1:29:22] that were far more disruptive
[1:29:25] than the ones during my mandate.
[1:29:27] And I've seen people go, Mr.
[1:29:31] Kelly, you have some kind of
[1:29:32] revisionist history going on.
[1:29:33] There I remember people being
[1:29:34] thrown out. I remember people
[1:29:36] being thrown out on a constant
[1:29:38] basis. People standing up and
[1:29:39] yelling. I remember the
[1:29:42] particular pioneer concert --
[1:29:44] consultation was incredibly
[1:29:45] rockets and people were slamming
[1:29:47] doors. So, the juxtaposition is
[1:29:49] not a fair, one sir. And your
[1:29:52] memory is really coloured on
[1:29:54] that one. As to whether I am
[1:29:58] resigning, no. Because I serve
[1:30:00] the people and the people chose
[1:30:02] me and they chose the philosophy
[1:30:04] in perspective that I espoused
[1:30:07] during the last campaign. And I
[1:30:09] think they still do and I will
[1:30:10] not betray the people in this
[1:30:13] regard. And I had one of the
[1:30:16] (applause)
[1:30:17] One other issue, so many things
[1:30:18] going. I think that is the best.
[1:30:20] As you, know I have no intention
[1:30:21] of resigning. And I do plan to
[1:30:23] run again to save this beautiful
[1:30:25] city. Thank, you sir.
[1:30:26] >> I would just like to make a
[1:30:27] clarification, please.
[1:30:28] >> Go ahead, Councillor Stork. I
[1:30:30] just want to clarify that the
[1:30:32] three special meetings that we
[1:30:33] had weren't against you, they
[1:30:35] were for the citizens of
[1:30:38] Pointe-Claire.
[1:30:39] >> They were against my wishes.
[1:30:40] Councillor Stork sees them as
[1:30:43] the councillors of,
[1:30:44] Pointe-Claire that's very. Now
[1:30:45] if they were special council
[1:30:46] meetings that disagreed with my
[1:30:47] position that were called
[1:30:48] against me, against my position.
[1:30:51] So there we go. Okay, so, Linda.
[1:31:02] Dumas.
[1:31:20] >> It's really useful. I thought
[1:31:22] that was another step.
[1:31:26] >> It's right over there.
[1:31:33] >> I am -- sorry. Good evening,
[1:31:40] I am sad that we are in such
[1:31:42] conflict. My heart is beating a
[1:31:45] little bit faster. My hearing --
[1:31:48] I'm hearing that they are
[1:31:50] possibly or has been some
[1:31:54] compromised -- compromise in
[1:31:55] caucus.
[1:32:02] And I know that
[1:32:11] that we are on the right track
[1:32:13] to save the forest. Because the
[1:32:21] federal ministries, provincial
[1:32:23] ministries, et cetera, et cetera
[1:32:25] are coming on board. And those
[1:32:29] higher levels of government are
[1:32:30] always more ponderous in taking
[1:32:33] a longer time than what we
[1:32:35] should be doing. Linda do it is
[1:32:39] saying that we have some powers.
[1:32:43] I'm so happy that the majority
[1:32:47] of us -- can you not hear?
[1:32:49] >> No, this is better.
[1:32:51] >> Sorry. That the majority of
[1:32:53] us did vote for you and your
[1:32:56] platform. I would like to point
[1:32:57] out that there was a third
[1:32:59] candidate, mayoral T candidate
[1:33:03] who received 8%, whose platform,
[1:33:06] a different personality whose
[1:33:09] platform was really identical
[1:33:13] with saving this lung of
[1:33:18] humanity in the 21st century. We
[1:33:21] must keep in mind, it's the 21st
[1:33:23] century. For over 40 years,
[1:33:27] since 1980, the data has been
[1:33:29] crystal clear that we are --
[1:33:34] that humanity isn't a desperate
[1:33:36] time. The planet does not, the
[1:33:39] planet will do what the planet
[1:33:41] is going to do. But 100 years of
[1:33:45] the 20th century, we were so
[1:33:49] promiscuous, we were so
[1:33:50] wonderful. We were so -- we were
[1:33:58] so -- we were super human
[1:34:00] beings. And we lost the plot.
[1:34:05] And I have so many wishes. I do
[1:34:08] wish that this chair behind you,
[1:34:10] sir, is not just a throwaway
[1:34:14] token. It was presented --
[1:34:21] Sandra, were you here with
[1:34:23] others? There is a desperate
[1:34:24] need for our youth to see in us
[1:34:29] the ability to act for them. To
[1:34:33] give them an inkling of hope for
[1:34:36] the future. Where is granted
[1:34:41] Thunberg always in jail? It is
[1:34:46] perplexing. I started on a
[1:34:48] positive note.
[1:34:53] >> There is a question coming?
[1:34:55] >> No, I never have a question
[1:34:57] because I think that's beneath
[1:34:58] the citizens. This is a
[1:35:03] citizens, period.
[1:35:04] >> It's actually question
[1:35:05] period.
[1:35:06] >> I would like the commentary
[1:35:10] of -- on this pamphlet that I
[1:35:14] found that a post office kiosk.
[1:35:18] The only one, it was last week.
[1:35:21] I have read it. I like it -- I
[1:35:25] like the simplicity of it. It
[1:35:30] wasn't mailed, was? It
[1:35:31] otherwise, I would have received
[1:35:33] it. Were there piles of it
[1:35:35] everywhere? Why don't we have a
[1:35:36] pile of it here? So, I would
[1:35:38] like commentary as to got this.
[1:35:46] I very much like
[1:35:56] -- there is the other stuff, the
[1:35:57] improving the citizen
[1:35:59] consultation platform. And I
[1:36:00] spent all of yesterday with Coco
[1:36:04] Rico, your consultation seemed
[1:36:09] to have wasted an awful lot of
[1:36:11] time last year. And we are going
[1:36:13] at it again. It is 14 pages.
[1:36:16] Everybody, read it. It is very
[1:36:19] good. There is one mention a
[1:36:21] terracotta forest and the
[1:36:22] mention is that we have got to
[1:36:24] get rid of the buck thorn,
[1:36:26] absolutely. I've got it all
[1:36:28] around me. But what I would like
[1:36:31] to, see Madam --, as you have
[1:36:34] said in your comment, that we
[1:36:37] want to be more current. I would
[1:36:40] like to see the next publication
[1:36:42] of this, if you could give me a
[1:36:44] call so that I don't just
[1:36:47] accidentally happened to get it,
[1:36:48] I would like to see you going
[1:36:54] out to the scientific community,
[1:36:57] local and beyond, you really
[1:36:59] don't have to go far. And have
[1:37:03] as many pages that are needed to
[1:37:07] inform the citizenry of this.
[1:37:11] >> Respectfully, you should
[1:37:12] address the mayor.
[1:37:13] >> Excuse me?
[1:37:14] >> You should address the mayor.
[1:37:17] >> Oh, fine. A very good, very
[1:37:20] good. And you, of course. I
[1:37:25] would like commentary. That is
[1:37:27] my question. Can we get the
[1:37:32] green coalition, the legacy
[1:37:34] fund, the wonderful say Fairview
[1:37:38] forest, they are wells of
[1:37:40] knowledge. You are gentlemen.
[1:37:42] Bruno Tremblay is a wealth of
[1:37:44] knowledge. He is your friend. He
[1:37:47] speaks with you. I know that he
[1:37:51] tells you that you have run out
[1:37:52] of time. We've all run out of
[1:37:55] time. If you are going to do
[1:37:59] something, Linda De Witt said it
[1:38:01] best, get it done. And there's
[1:38:04] always a way to pay for this.
[1:38:05] There is always a way to
[1:38:08] negotiate. And the thought came
[1:38:09] to me after reading 24 hours of
[1:38:14] the Ontario teachers pension
[1:38:16] plan on Cadillac Fairview over
[1:38:17] the last 24 hours. Their mandate
[1:38:20] is to improve, improve, improve,
[1:38:23] get to zero net. Tell Cadillac
[1:38:28] Fairview who is owned and does
[1:38:31] the bidding of a teacher's
[1:38:33] pension plan that they don't
[1:38:36] have to initially spend a scent
[1:38:40] if they keep that forest as it
[1:38:44] is. It will benefit the heat
[1:38:47] island, their heat island,
[1:38:49] they're in permeability, which,
[1:38:53] councillors, that has to be
[1:38:55] changed.
[1:38:56] >> I've got to get you --
[1:38:57] >> Commentary, please, from
[1:38:59] Madame Verdun. I don't know who
[1:39:01] puts this together. I would
[1:39:04] really love to see something to
[1:39:07] address the issue that we voted
[1:39:11] in for, that two mayoral tea
[1:39:15] candidates worked on and it's
[1:39:18] not pie in the sky. That's why
[1:39:21] on October 15th, probably, was
[1:39:23] as raucous as it was, sadly, as
[1:39:25] it was. And hopefully has
[1:39:30] spurred this somewhat
[1:39:32] reconciliation. Please do not
[1:39:33] frighten us, Mr. Stork, with
[1:39:37] money. Money will always be
[1:39:38] found to do the right thing. The
[1:39:40] money that we don't have is
[1:39:43] reparations for not doing what
[1:39:45] we absolutely must do.
[1:39:53] >> That's it? No question?
[1:39:55] >> My question is, I would like
[1:39:57] commentary.
[1:39:58] >> Commentary on that?
[1:39:59] >> Yes.
[1:40:01] >> Madame Verdun?
[1:40:04] >> We want to see --
[1:40:05] >> Oh, no, no. Okay, all right.
[1:40:12] I met, how are we distributing
[1:40:13] it and who are we sending it to?
[1:40:16] No, okay. Ralph statistic? I
[1:40:29] can't answer for Madame Verdun.
[1:40:33] >> It's a question period for
[1:40:35] the City Council.
[1:40:36] >> Yes. Okay, so -- no, no, no.
[1:40:42] It's a question period for City
[1:40:44] Council. The staff does, and the
[1:40:48] staff makes the --
[1:40:49] >> It's the communications
[1:40:52] department.
[1:40:53] >> You can ask the
[1:40:54] communications department
[1:40:56] tomorrow, Mrs. do miss. Okay,
[1:41:01] Mister stock?
[1:41:04] >> I'll be really fast.
[1:41:07] [Laughter]
[1:41:08] Last month, I was so upset with
[1:41:11] Council, I had kind of had it
[1:41:13] and given up, really, on the
[1:41:18] possibilities. And I am really
[1:41:20] afraid to be optimistic tonight.
[1:41:23] But extremely hopeful and I hope
[1:41:26] it doesn't get screwed up and I
[1:41:28] think the citizens have said it
[1:41:29] over and over again, whatever
[1:41:31] side you are on, it looks like
[1:41:34] you have made yourselves an
[1:41:37] opportunity and responded with
[1:41:40] some leadership to finally sort
[1:41:43] this out in a way that you know
[1:41:44] the citizens want. So, I am
[1:41:48] encouraged. I've thrown out what
[1:41:49] I was going to say because I
[1:41:51] read very carefully, many times
[1:41:52] over, your resolution. I like
[1:41:55] some of the changes. Who knows
[1:41:56] what it will be eventually. I do
[1:41:59] want to say that I hope -- it
[1:42:04] didn't seem to be in the current
[1:42:06] resolution. I hope, in the end,
[1:42:08] that Cadillac Fairview will have
[1:42:12] no role in determining the
[1:42:15] nature of our consultations. And
[1:42:18] Cadillac Fairview will not be
[1:42:21] involved in early meetings where
[1:42:23] they determine what people can
[1:42:25] say and what the agenda is.
[1:42:28] Whether it be in consultations
[1:42:30] or with the eventual outcomes
[1:42:33] for Mu1 and Mu2. That's not
[1:42:35] their role, that is the private
[1:42:38] corporation. Their role, is to
[1:42:40] get as much profit as they
[1:42:41] possibly can for their
[1:42:43] stakeholders. And that is all
[1:42:44] fine and good. But our city,
[1:42:47] it's our cities role, our cities
[1:42:49] administration, our cities
[1:42:51] councillors to determine our
[1:42:54] future, not a private
[1:42:55] corporation. Even if they do run
[1:42:57] the land, it doesn't matter. The
[1:43:00] City has a role. And I hope that
[1:43:03] that is realized. And I think
[1:43:05] you've maybe taken a real step
[1:43:07] in leadership and compromise.
[1:43:09] And I am very, very hopeful that
[1:43:11] you guys can get it together.
[1:43:13] Thank you very much. And I'm
[1:43:15] going to stop because I don't
[1:43:17] have a question. You answered it
[1:43:19] when you change the agenda.
[1:43:21] Thanks.
[1:43:22] >> Okay. Sandra Mackay? Same
[1:43:25] there?
[1:43:28] [Inaudible]
[1:43:30] >> May I have a comment, please?
[1:43:34] We also it was originally
[1:43:37] written. It was much more
[1:43:39] encompassing. It was very heavy.
[1:43:41] It was mentioned, Cadillac
[1:43:44] Fairview, Mu1, Mu2. I just want
[1:43:47] to say that after what
[1:43:50] transpired with the letters, Mr.
[1:43:54] -- speech last month, which
[1:43:56] upset me, that's, okay your
[1:43:57] motion will just like I am. When
[1:44:00] we came to caucus today,
[1:44:03] obviously, it is behind closed
[1:44:05] doors. But I can see for the
[1:44:06] first time that we discussed
[1:44:08] things and had an open
[1:44:10] conversation. And we figured it
[1:44:12] out. I just want to point out
[1:44:14] that things were going south,
[1:44:16] yes. And I mean this from the
[1:44:18] bottom of my heart, I thank
[1:44:21] Kelly Thorstad-Cullen, because I
[1:44:22] think she rained everything back
[1:44:23] in to an extent. And I think we
[1:44:25] got to a situation where on
[1:44:27] Council, everybody, except the
[1:44:29] mayor, which is fine, it's his
[1:44:31] prerogative, the favour of this
[1:44:33] new resolution to get exactly
[1:44:35] that. Cadillac Fairview is in,
[1:44:37] we pulled them out. We've
[1:44:39] changed things. Originally, we
[1:44:40] were going to add something. If
[1:44:43] they do want to play games, we
[1:44:44] will do this anyhow. So I think
[1:44:46] we really came to a compromise.
[1:44:48] That all of our target audience
[1:44:51] and, that's what we need to do.
[1:44:53] I think the Mayor mentioned it's
[1:44:54] a bit of a watershed moment and
[1:44:56] hopefully we can continue that.
[1:44:59] >> David Johnson?
[1:45:12] >> Just like my new best friend,
[1:45:15] Ralph, I'm very impressed that
[1:45:21] tonight, you had a meeting hours
[1:45:25] before Council, there were
[1:45:29] points of disagreement going
[1:45:30] into. It somehow, you worked
[1:45:34] collaboratively and have come to
[1:45:36] a consensus. Congratulations to
[1:45:40] you all. Did you have the same
[1:45:45] meeting before the special
[1:45:49] meeting in October?
[1:45:57] >> Why was there no meeting like
[1:46:00] there was tonight?
[1:46:01] >> The meeting we have tonight
[1:46:03] was a direct result of the last
[1:46:05] meeting. And that's why it went
[1:46:07] so positively.
[1:46:08] >> I would like to comment to
[1:46:09] that, please.
[1:46:10] >> Sure.
[1:46:11] >> I think the meeting of a
[1:46:13] month and a half ago, when I
[1:46:15] said in public that I was going
[1:46:17] to make this a little -- and put
[1:46:19] together a resolution
[1:46:21] communicating after that, I
[1:46:22] think this meeting, yes, you're
[1:46:26] resolution, some -- as we said,
[1:46:28] we all agreed on public
[1:46:30] consultations. It's just that
[1:46:31] some people had concerns all the
[1:46:33] way was written and we put a
[1:46:34] majority of what was in yours
[1:46:37] and adopted it. But please do
[1:46:39] not say that this meeting, this
[1:46:41] resolution is subject to what
[1:46:42] you did last week. This process
[1:46:45] started much before.
[1:46:46] >> It's not what I did last
[1:46:47] week. Gets what the citizens did
[1:46:48] last week. And I think, Mr.
[1:46:50] Johnson, that we've had ample
[1:46:53] opportunity to have meetings
[1:46:54] like the one we had tonight.
[1:46:57] We've had ample opportunities.
[1:47:01] >> This is a good --
[1:47:03] >> It's not a specific moment.
[1:47:04] We've had three years of
[1:47:07] opportunity. It happened
[1:47:08] tonight. I particularly think --
[1:47:11] >> It's a breakthrough.
[1:47:12] >> I think that the last meeting
[1:47:15] had a major influence. And I
[1:47:18] think the citizens had an impact
[1:47:19] and I applaud them. And I think
[1:47:22] that's --
[1:47:23] >> Congratulations to you. Well
[1:47:24] >> Councillor Tremblay, did you
[1:47:26] want to speak? No, okay.
[1:47:43] >> I can never be heard, all
[1:47:44] these questions. You're keeping
[1:47:45] us on our toes. I just want to
[1:47:48] mention about the whereas, I
[1:47:50] know it is too late to modify
[1:47:51] the resolution but I would like
[1:47:56] to, I can member who it was that
[1:47:57] said about the 30% protection of
[1:47:59] green spaces.
[1:48:00] >> That was me.
[1:48:01] >> That was you, thank you very
[1:48:03] much. The peanut does require,
[1:48:06] it does recommend protection of
[1:48:08] 30% of green spaces. I would
[1:48:09] also like to mention that the --
[1:48:14] protected the wetlands. The new
[1:48:17] scheme is in the draft versions
[1:48:19] but it protects 30% of the
[1:48:22] forest because of the wetlands.
[1:48:24] That is important that it be in
[1:48:26] their. I think it could be
[1:48:27] really important for it to be in
[1:48:28] there. But as for my questions,
[1:48:34] first of, all I'm really excited
[1:48:35] about the fact that the
[1:48:36] resolution came forward. I
[1:48:37] appreciate all the work you put
[1:48:38] into it. Sorry, I'm just going
[1:48:42] off notes I wrote really quickly
[1:48:44] to reassess after tonight. I'm
[1:48:47] wondering what the consultations
[1:48:49] could look like. Could it look
[1:48:51] like a presentation of the
[1:48:52] information you've gathered? Or
[1:48:54] is it a consultation where you
[1:48:56] ask for citizens participation?
[1:48:58] I am just curious about what
[1:49:00] that could look like, or you
[1:49:01] don't know what that could look
[1:49:02] like yet.
[1:49:06] >> First of, all have been
[1:49:08] forbid it should be us, I don't
[1:49:09] think it should be, as I think
[1:49:10] it should be a professional.
[1:49:11] We've had consultants in the
[1:49:14] consultation process. It should
[1:49:15] remain that way, keeping the
[1:49:18] politician -- politicians out of
[1:49:19] the consultation. I think it is
[1:49:20] the way we've done. If that
[1:49:21] would be my input on that one.
[1:49:24] As to the structuring of the
[1:49:25] consultation, that's us. And
[1:49:27] that's us through the urban
[1:49:29] planning part. We will see what
[1:49:31] will happen. I can't predict the
[1:49:35] future. I am a trained
[1:49:37] methodology of. I'm very
[1:49:38] concerned about it. I think it's
[1:49:41] very important that we solicit
[1:49:43] opinion in a proper way because
[1:49:45] it's a genuine expression of the
[1:49:47] population. And hopefully,
[1:49:48] that's what we will do.
[1:49:50] >> Would you consider presenting
[1:49:52] the information to the public
[1:49:53] once you've gathered that?
[1:49:55] >> I would think so, yes.
[1:49:57] >> Okay. My second follow-up
[1:50:02] question, would you take the
[1:50:03] liberty of changing the
[1:50:04] timelines? I find the timeline
[1:50:06] extremely tied together, all the
[1:50:07] information.
[1:50:08] >> Absolutely.
[1:50:09] >> I still do understand if the
[1:50:10] study was part of that but I'm
[1:50:11] concerned about the very short
[1:50:12] timeline until February, would
[1:50:13] you consider changing that
[1:50:15] timeline?
[1:50:16] >> I think it was changed, was
[1:50:17] it not?
[1:50:18] >> I think it remained February
[1:50:20] 1st.
[1:50:21] >> As I mentioned to you on a
[1:50:23] social platform, we felt
[1:50:26] January, we moved up to February
[1:50:28] 1st. But that is just to give us
[1:50:30] feedback, to give some
[1:50:31] information of where we are at.
[1:50:33] As I mentioned, like, the study
[1:50:34] that is required, everything
[1:50:37] else surrounding it, probably a
[1:50:40] 15 month study to do a proper
[1:50:42] study. You know, I mentioned the
[1:50:44] -- that was done in seven for
[1:50:47] our visits over three months.
[1:50:51] >> In over nine months.
[1:50:53] >> Actually, we can debate that
[1:50:55] after. I'm not discrediting it.
[1:50:57] I'm saying a true study takes
[1:50:59] that long. That's what we have
[1:51:00] to start this process. We have
[1:51:02] everything else. But I think we
[1:51:03] have to set goals and targets. I
[1:51:06] mean, this resolution was forced
[1:51:08] because I felt, and the majority
[1:51:09] of Council felt that we weren't
[1:51:11] doing things, for whatever
[1:51:13] reason. And I'm not blaming
[1:51:14] anybody. I'm part of the blame
[1:51:16] myself, believe me. But we have
[1:51:18] to start a process. And I think
[1:51:20] that is what we accomplished
[1:51:22] today. The February date is just
[1:51:24] a come back and say, you know,
[1:51:26] we are almost done. We are
[1:51:27] getting here. There is not much
[1:51:29] longer. But you have to give
[1:51:30] time to the administration.
[1:51:33] Something we have to do,
[1:51:34] regretfully. They need the time
[1:51:36] to come back and say, hey, it's
[1:51:38] going to take 18 months. This
[1:51:39] will take four months. Here's an
[1:51:40] answer on that. Throughout the
[1:51:42] process, we listen to our
[1:51:43] citizens. We hear them. We can
[1:51:45] add and modify and things as
[1:51:47] such as we go along. But my
[1:51:49] endgame is simple. At one point,
[1:51:51] synthesized this information, as
[1:51:52] I said and share with the
[1:51:55] popular so that we can make
[1:51:57] sound, educated, fundamental
[1:52:00] decisions. And what can we do?
[1:52:02] What are our options? That's
[1:52:05] part of the process. It will be
[1:52:06] a moving target. As the mayor
[1:52:08] said, they should come from
[1:52:10] professional people who do their
[1:52:12] job.
[1:52:13] >> 100%. Just the wording of the
[1:52:15] resolution was that, come
[1:52:17] February 1st, the consultation
[1:52:19] framework would be established.
[1:52:21] So I thought it just seemed very
[1:52:24] process -- that seemed very
[1:52:26] rapid to meet.
[1:52:27] >> I agree with you. That is far
[1:52:28] too rapid for that. My hope and
[1:52:35] understanding, I can't speak for
[1:52:36] everybody, but we can respond to
[1:52:39] the options presented by the
[1:52:41] various legal frameworks, Bill
[1:52:43] 30, nine Bill 20, two et cetera.
[1:52:45] Even the -- we can get answers
[1:52:48] to that. These are the primary
[1:52:53] ones, the really paramount
[1:52:54] issues. We should have some of
[1:52:55] those in our heads before, by
[1:52:58] February. But you are, right we
[1:52:59] are in no position to go to
[1:53:01] consultation by February, I
[1:53:02] don't think. Especially if we
[1:53:03] are doing environmental
[1:53:04] assessments, we are no position
[1:53:06] to go to consultation. I agree.
[1:53:09] >> I'm still a little bit -- as
[1:53:10] to how this is going to unroll.
[1:53:13] >> I know what happens tonight.
[1:53:15] >> We've been here for four
[1:53:17] years but for this topic, I've
[1:53:18] been here many years before
[1:53:20] that. Really, I just want to say
[1:53:22] that we appreciate how much work
[1:53:24] has gone into this and the fact
[1:53:25] that it sounds like caucus and
[1:53:26] went okay on this topic. Just
[1:53:30] going to breathe a little bit of
[1:53:32] a sigh of relief here and I'm
[1:53:33] looking forward to seeing what
[1:53:34] happens moving forward. So,
[1:53:36] thank you.
[1:53:40] >> Gerard.
[1:53:41] Bonjour écrivez.
[1:53:50] >> Lynn Conway?
[1:53:58] >> Lynn Conway, good evening.
[1:54:05] The resolution mentioned
[1:54:06] consultations.
[1:54:11] With the firm in the
[1:54:14] consultations -- maybe 100
[1:54:15] people at the most. Why not do a
[1:54:18] referendum on the issues? To
[1:54:24] really know what citizens want.
[1:54:26] >> A referendum on which issue?
[1:54:30] >> For the private spaces, the
[1:54:33] private forest.
[1:54:34] >> Public spaces?
[1:54:36] >> The resolution that was voted
[1:54:38] tonight, to have public
[1:54:40] participation. Why not do a
[1:54:41] referendum instead?
[1:54:42] >> Well, referendums are costly
[1:54:44] and expensive. If we do it, I
[1:54:47] don't see us doing referendums
[1:54:49] on every single issue that comes
[1:54:50] up in Council. I don't know the
[1:54:52] feasibility of it. I mean,
[1:54:53] having a referendum, the
[1:54:55] question, of course, is crucial,
[1:54:58] all right? And they tend to be
[1:55:00] divisive. But who knows. Nothing
[1:55:02] is impossible. It is a
[1:55:05] possibility.
[1:55:06] >> This is the biggest issue
[1:55:07] this Council had since day one.
[1:55:13] As I've mentioned before, I
[1:55:15] participated in the
[1:55:17] consultations and at most, there
[1:55:18] was 100 people in the room.
[1:55:21] >> That's pretty good. That's
[1:55:22] pretty good, as far as
[1:55:23] consultations go. 100 people.
[1:55:24] >> It's just 100 people are
[1:55:26] giving their opinions. It
[1:55:29] doesn't really reflect the whole
[1:55:31] city.
[1:55:33] >> Well, an election is a
[1:55:34] reflection of the whole city.
[1:55:35] Even then, you get very little
[1:55:37] turnout. Whether you are going
[1:55:39] to get, I mean, 100 is good and
[1:55:42] public participation, if you get
[1:55:43] 100, that's quite an
[1:55:44] achievement. If you get over 50,
[1:55:45] that's quite an achievement in
[1:55:47] public consultation. And I'm
[1:55:49] quite pleased at that. Actually,
[1:55:51] if you have a series of
[1:55:54] consultations, that's quite a
[1:55:55] good turnout. No, no, no. We
[1:55:59] cannot speak from the audience.
[1:56:01] Excuse me, Miss Dumas. We can't
[1:56:04] speak from the audience, one
[1:56:06] can't speak from the audience.
[1:56:08] Sorry, Miss Conway, did you --
[1:56:11] >> Didn't answer my first
[1:56:12] question. The second one is
[1:56:14] again about the -- resolution of
[1:56:16] this evening. You kept
[1:56:18] mentioning private green spaces.
[1:56:19] >> It should be private and
[1:56:21] public. It should include both
[1:56:23] as per my resolution.
[1:56:26] >> But the resolution --
[1:56:27] >> Green spaces, private and
[1:56:29] public includes all green
[1:56:30] spaces.
[1:56:31] >> All the public ones we own
[1:56:32] are already protected. That's
[1:56:33] why it says private green
[1:56:34] spaces. It was done prior to
[1:56:36] this council getting together.
[1:56:38] >> Even if we own them, there
[1:56:39] are not necessarily protected.
[1:56:41] There may be different ways,
[1:56:43] different ways to -- there may
[1:56:46] be different ways -- protection
[1:56:48] is a debatable term. Anyhow,
[1:56:51] Miss Conway --
[1:56:53] >> From what I heard, I kept
[1:56:55] hearing private green spaces
[1:56:57] over and over. Mrs. Linda De
[1:57:02] which mentioned Fairview forest
[1:57:04] and Mu2. I don't think they were
[1:57:08] specifically mentioned in the
[1:57:09] resolution, can we have a list
[1:57:10] of what they are?
[1:57:13] >> Private and public green
[1:57:16] spaces, all of it. It's all of.
[1:57:17] It
[1:57:18] >> Spaces that will be in the
[1:57:19] resolution do you have a list of
[1:57:21] them --
[1:57:22] >> Not offhand, ponder which
[1:57:24] might be included, Beaconsfield
[1:57:26] golf course, these are a few I'm
[1:57:29] thinking. If there are other
[1:57:32] private green spaces in
[1:57:34] Pointe-Claire, other than the
[1:57:35] Fairview forest.
[1:57:36] >> Can I ask Eric, what is in
[1:57:37] your mind -- do you share the
[1:57:39] same list?
[1:57:40] >> No, I will not. I think this
[1:57:42] is a Council decision, we will
[1:57:43] go back, we can communicate and
[1:57:46] discuss what informations are
[1:57:48] provided and come back,
[1:57:49] hopefully on a unit -- united
[1:57:51] front.
[1:57:52] >> This council voted on this
[1:57:53] resolution but nobody can
[1:57:54] provide us with the list is of
[1:57:56] the private green spaces?
[1:57:59] >> We are not there yet. We have
[1:58:00] not even -- we just decided to
[1:58:02] do it two hours ago. Three hours
[1:58:07] ago. We just decided. We have no
[1:58:08] idea where we are going.
[1:58:10] >> But some thoughts, even
[1:58:11] before October 15th, some
[1:58:13] thought has been put into this.
[1:58:14] >> We haven't gotten to this
[1:58:16] point yet. We are just there
[1:58:18] now.
[1:58:20] >> Okay, thank you.
[1:58:21] >> Thank you. Do we have time,
[1:58:24] Madam? One more. Murray Scott?
[1:58:27] >> Three more.
[1:58:29] >> Nine minutes left.
[1:58:31] >> Nine.
[1:58:33] >> Maureen Scott?
[1:58:43] >> Good evening. I too would
[1:58:45] like to just add my thanks for
[1:58:49] what the council has brought
[1:58:51] this evening, a sign of hope.
[1:58:56] All my questions have actually
[1:58:57] been dealt with, the ones I came
[1:59:00] with and signed up for. I would
[1:59:06] just add that I never had a
[1:59:08] chance like the rest of the
[1:59:11] audience to see the amended
[1:59:14] resolution before it was
[1:59:17] presented. And so, that's fine.
[1:59:23] [Laughter]
[1:59:24] But it all came like a wave. And
[1:59:27] I tried to listen carefully to
[1:59:29] find out everything that was
[1:59:31] referred to. I think many of the
[1:59:33] other speakers have brought up
[1:59:36] the points that came from that
[1:59:40] second, or that I voted on, the
[1:59:42] resolution this evening. I will
[1:59:44] go home and try to sort
[1:59:46] everything out and learn more
[1:59:47] about what has been said this
[1:59:49] evening. And I will just try to
[1:59:51] do my best to keep up.
[1:59:54] >> Well, do grab a copy of the
[1:59:56] resolution.
[1:59:57] >> The resolution is not on the
[1:59:58] table.
[1:59:59] >> It's not on the table?
[2:00:00] >> No, you spoke to it very
[2:00:03] fast. I was trying to support
[2:00:05] everything. I just need to learn
[2:00:06] about it.
[2:00:08] >> Okay, we've got to get a copy
[2:00:09] out there.
[2:00:11] >> Yes.
[2:00:12] >> Janet Hannah.
[2:00:19] >> Thank you. You brought this
[2:00:23] up before. $25 million, $25
[2:00:28] million, $25 million for the
[2:00:31] renovation of a building.
[2:00:35] Pointe-Claire Public Works. No
[2:00:37] contract details, no supplies
[2:00:38] details, and no suppliers
[2:00:40] details, and no raw materials
[2:00:43] details, and no labour cost
[2:00:46] details. Why?
[2:00:48] >> Can I just interrupt? We had
[2:00:50] an entire session on that, an
[2:00:51] entire council meeting on all
[2:00:53] the details about public works.
[2:00:56] >> There is nothing that is on
[2:00:57] the website. We asked for it in
[2:01:00] June of last year, there was
[2:01:02] information that was going to be
[2:01:04] posted on the website and it is
[2:01:06] not there. We pay federal income
[2:01:10] tax, provincial income tax, GST,
[2:01:12] PTSD, Q S T, all the STDs.
[2:01:16] Property tax, water tax with
[2:01:19] fluoride in it, God forbid.
[2:01:21] School tax, welcome tax. Where
[2:01:26] are all our tax dollars going?
[2:01:29] Nonprofit organizations,
[2:01:31] hundreds of thousands of dollars
[2:01:33] going into a black hole. Who are
[2:01:37] these organizations? Who works
[2:01:40] there? What do they do with our
[2:01:42] money? You, as mayor and
[2:01:47] councillors, is the car you are
[2:01:49] driving paid for by us? Do you
[2:01:52] have an expense account? Do you
[2:01:53] get bonuses? $25 million,
[2:02:00] hundreds of thousands of dollars
[2:02:03] to nonprofit organizations.
[2:02:06] Hundreds of thousands of dollars
[2:02:07] for office furniture. Where it
[2:02:10] is and? Who are you working for?
[2:02:14] It doesn't look like you are
[2:02:15] working for us, although you
[2:02:17] were all elected to work for us,
[2:02:19] the residents of Pointe-Claire.
[2:02:22] We are tired of paying taxes and
[2:02:24] want property taxes, school
[2:02:27] taxes, water taxes and welcome
[2:02:30] taxes abolished. All these taxes
[2:02:35] are a form of slavery, aren't
[2:02:37] they? We work to give you our
[2:02:40] money to put into black holes.
[2:02:44] All this while people starve and
[2:02:46] have a hard time making ends
[2:02:48] meet. Then there is the C 40
[2:02:53] cities program. I suppose you
[2:02:55] are familiar with that? Of which
[2:02:58] Montréal has become a part of.
[2:03:01] That is the idea of the
[2:03:03] 15-minute city. Basically, an
[2:03:05] open air prison. An open air
[2:03:09] prison for the residents of
[2:03:12] Pointe-Claire. You want to
[2:03:14] implement the 15-minute city,
[2:03:15] isn't that right? You want to
[2:03:18] put all the citizens of
[2:03:19] Pointe-Claire in an open air
[2:03:22] prison. Right? All of course in
[2:03:25] the name of the fake climate
[2:03:28] change agenda.
[2:03:30] [Laughter]
[2:03:33] >> If that is the case, when you
[2:03:34] plant
[2:03:35] (applause)
[2:03:36] -- Plan to resign, because you
[2:03:37] no longer serve the residents of
[2:03:40] Pointe-Claire? This applies to
[2:03:41] you, all Mayor and councillors.
[2:03:42] If you will not reject or back
[2:03:46] out of the C 40's program, if
[2:03:50] you will not abolish property
[2:03:52] taxes, water tax, school tax,
[2:03:54] welcome tax, then when will you
[2:03:57] resign? We need a mayor and
[2:04:00] councillors who will serve the
[2:04:02] people and work for the people
[2:04:04] and work for the well-being of
[2:04:06] the people and the residents of
[2:04:09] Pointe-Claire. Please don't use
[2:04:11] climate change as an excuse
[2:04:13] because that is a big hoax.
[2:04:16] Thank you.
[2:04:17] >> Okay. Is there a question in
[2:04:18] there?
[2:04:19] >> Yeah, that was a question.
[2:04:20] >> That's it? Okay. I will refer
[2:04:23] you -- to answer that, I will
[2:04:25] start broad and narrow down.
[2:04:29] Thomas hubs once wrote that
[2:04:32] without the lion, life would be
[2:04:35] nasty, brutish and short. And if
[2:04:37] you know what he means by that,
[2:04:39] if you don't have good
[2:04:41] government or nation states, if
[2:04:43] you don't have an overarching
[2:04:45] form of redistribution, taxes
[2:04:46] and services, you have a dog eat
[2:04:49] dog world where people die
[2:04:51] quickly at a young age and
[2:04:52] that's what happens when you
[2:04:53] don't have the life in. You get
[2:04:56] lord of the flies. We've seen
[2:04:57] this over time. You get mad Max.
[2:05:01] The love I think keeps us safe
[2:05:03] and alive. And I am answering
[2:05:05] the question. Your tax dollars
[2:05:07] goes to the live Ethan. We are
[2:05:08] the love of thin, so is the
[2:05:10] provincial and the federal. We
[2:05:12] look after things get
[2:05:14] redistributed, things get even
[2:05:16] back to people. Incredible what
[2:05:19] Pointe-Claire gives its citizens
[2:05:20] for its tax. Dollar I'm sitting
[2:05:21] here and I see. It it's
[2:05:23] incredible services citizens
[2:05:25] get. And again -- excuse me,
[2:05:28] excuse me, I will answer the --
[2:05:31] excuse me. You can't yell from
[2:05:32] your chair, okay? You can't
[2:05:34] speak from your chair. I'm
[2:05:37] answering your question. You
[2:05:38] have one follow-up question,
[2:05:40] okay? One follow-up question.
[2:05:42] And I'm not finished answering
[2:05:44] it. The important thing to
[2:05:47] remember about what we do is
[2:05:50] that it is the best we can do
[2:05:51] with the tax dollar that comes
[2:05:53] in. You get your water, you get
[2:05:55] your streets, you get the
[2:05:57] police. That is not municipal.
[2:05:59] But everything that you get in
[2:06:01] society that makes your life
[2:06:02] saint and safe comes from the
[2:06:04] Laval youth. To say that it is a
[2:06:08] waste of money is preposterous
[2:06:11] in my opinion. Non profit
[2:06:16] organizations as black holes, I
[2:06:18] go to nonprofit organizations to
[2:06:20] support them, friends of mental
[2:06:23] health -- the hearing impaired,
[2:06:29] hunger, food scarcity. These are
[2:06:32] people giving from the bottom of
[2:06:34] their hearts that don't have
[2:06:35] anything and we, as a government
[2:06:38] or the City of Pointe-Claire is
[2:06:39] great doing this, we subsidize
[2:06:41] these organizations, and I'm
[2:06:44] proud of the city. This was
[2:06:47] around long before. Me we look
[2:06:48] after those groups because they
[2:06:49] look after the people that fall
[2:06:52] through the social safety net.
[2:06:54] And people that fall through the
[2:06:55] net are in real need of help.
[2:06:58] How is your health care? Are you
[2:07:00] always cared for? Do you always
[2:07:01] get what you need? Is it
[2:07:02] immediate? Is it quick? Some of
[2:07:05] these organizations complement
[2:07:07] and augment and serve people
[2:07:09] where the state can't cover all
[2:07:12] what is asked of it. I don't
[2:07:15] apologize at all for the
[2:07:19] organizations as a city for
[2:07:20] subsidizing them. I enact them
[2:07:22] all the time. I support them for
[2:07:23] the exact same reason. That's my
[2:07:28] quick answer. Do you want a
[2:07:30] subsequent one?
[2:07:33] [Laughter]
[2:07:34] No?
[2:07:35] >> Yes, actually. If people had
[2:07:37] money in their pockets by not
[2:07:39] paying as much taxes, as much in
[2:07:42] taxes as we are paying, these
[2:07:45] organizations would not exist
[2:07:46] because there would not be a
[2:07:47] need for them to exist. And if
[2:07:49] some of them do need to exist in
[2:07:51] order to help the population,
[2:07:53] that should be paid for both by
[2:07:55] the federal and the municipal
[2:07:57] governments. And both federal
[2:07:58] and municipal governments
[2:08:00] collect enough in income taxes
[2:08:02] from us to be able to distribute
[2:08:04] that money instead of it going
[2:08:07] to illegal migrants or migrants
[2:08:09] coming in and receiving 20 $400
[2:08:12] a month.
[2:08:14] >> You are watching the wrong
[2:08:16] program. Listen, everybody, I
[2:08:20] suggest you run for Council. I
[2:08:24] will just answer quickly. But
[2:08:26] that's it, I will answer that
[2:08:28] and we will carry on with the
[2:08:30] meeting. History has taught us
[2:08:35] overtime that eventually, we
[2:08:38] come to revolution when we leave
[2:08:40] all the money in people's
[2:08:41] pockets. When money gets left in
[2:08:43] people's pockets.
[2:08:44] >> Basically, we are stupid, we
[2:08:46] can't manage our own money?
[2:08:47] >> You are done, excuse me.
[2:08:51] Okay.
[2:08:52] >> Time is up, Mister Mayor.
[2:08:53] >> Okay, thank you. I would like
[2:08:54] to answer, I had one last thing.
[2:08:57] To Mr. Kelly, Mr. Kelly, I
[2:08:59] forgot the point I wanted to
[2:09:00] answer. I went to the gym based
[2:09:03] school of marrying, the mayor of
[2:09:07] Pierrefonds. He has always said
[2:09:09] to get on the ground. You don't
[2:09:11] need to sit around and have your
[2:09:13] -- they are incompetent, what to
[2:09:15] do. You go see what is going on
[2:09:17] in your city in person and you
[2:09:19] look after it and you watch it
[2:09:20] and you go speak to the people
[2:09:22] themselves. And that is what
[2:09:23] good mayors do. And good mayors
[2:09:24] don't sit in an ivory tower.
[2:09:25] They get out on the ground and
[2:09:27] see the people. And I learned
[2:09:29] that from a very good man. And
[2:09:31] that is the part --. Okay, let's
[2:09:37] -- 5.1 Avis de motion et dépôt
[2:09:38] d'un projet de règlement
[2:09:39] modifiant le Règlement PC-2512
[2:09:40] sur la distribution de matériel
[2:09:41] publicitaire. Un projet de
[2:09:43] règlement prévoit une
[2:09:44] modification afin des référer
[2:09:45] aux règlements des tarifs pour
[2:09:46] les frais applicables.
[2:09:52] >> 5.2 Notice of motion and
[2:09:53] filing of a draft By-law
[2:09:54] amending By-law PC2642
[2:09:55] pertaining to the granting of
[2:09:56] permits to peddlers and amending
[2:09:57] By-law PC-2396 regulating
[2:09:58] various trades and industries.
[2:10:00] The draft bylaw provides for an
[2:10:02] amendment to increase the
[2:10:03] terrasse bylaw for applicable
[2:10:05] fees. 5.3 Avis de motion et
[2:10:06] dépôt d'un projet de règlement
[2:10:07] modifiant le Règlement de zonage
[2:10:08] PC-2775 dans le but de régir
[2:10:09] l'aménagement d'une unité
[2:10:11] d'habitation accessoire aménagée
[2:10:12] à l'intérieur d'un immeuble
[2:10:13] résidentiel appartenant à la
[2:10:14] classe d'usage « A ». Les unités
[2:10:18] d'habitation accessoires seront
[2:10:19] permises dans les secteurs
[2:10:20] résidentiels à faible densité où
[2:10:22] les habitations unifamiliales
[2:10:24] détachées et ça m'détaché sont
[2:10:26] aussi.
[2:10:29] >> 5.4 Notice of motion and
[2:10:30] filing of a draft by-law
[2:10:32] amending Conditional Uses By-law
[2:10:33] PC-2791 in order to govern
[2:10:35] accessory dwelling units
[2:10:36] (ADU)
[2:10:37] located in residential buildings
[2:10:38] belonging to class « A » use.
[2:10:39] This bylaw will be amended to
[2:10:41] include provisions applicable to
[2:10:42] the conversion of detached
[2:10:44] accessory buildings for the
[2:10:46] addition of a new building to
[2:10:47] allow the development of an
[2:10:48] accessory dwelling unit. 5.5
[2:10:49] Avis de motion et dépôt d'un
[2:10:50] projet de règlement modifiant le
[2:10:51] Règlement PC-2787 sur les plans
[2:10:52] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:10:54] architecturale
[2:10:55] (PIIA)
[2:10:56] dans le but de régir les unités
[2:10:58] d'habitation accessoire aménagés
[2:10:59] à l'intérieur d'immeubles
[2:11:00] résidentiels appartenant à la
[2:11:01] classe d'usage « A ». Le
[2:11:03] règlement sera modifié afin
[2:11:04] d'inclure des objectifs des
[2:11:06] critères pour analyse des unités
[2:11:07] d'habitations intégrées au
[2:11:08] détaché du bâtiment principal.
[2:11:12] >> 5.6 Notice of motion and
[2:11:13] filing of a draft by-law
[2:11:14] amending Construction By-law
[2:11:15] PC-2786 in order to govern
[2:11:16] accessory dwelling units
[2:11:20] (ADU)
[2:11:21] located inside residential
[2:11:22] buildings belonging to class
[2:11:23] “A” use. This bylaw will be
[2:11:25] amended to include -- integrated
[2:11:27] or detached from the main
[2:11:29] building. 5.7 Avis de motion et
[2:11:30] dépôt d'un projet de règlement
[2:11:31] modifiant le règlement de
[2:11:32] lotissement PC-2774 dans le but
[2:11:33] de régir les unités d'habitation
[2:11:35] accessoire aménagés
[2:11:36] (UHA)
[2:11:38] à l'intérieur d'immeubles
[2:11:40] résidentiels appartenant à la
[2:11:41] classe d'usage « A ». Le
[2:11:42] règlement sera modifié afin
[2:11:43] d'interdire toute opération
[2:11:44] catastrophe dans le but de
[2:11:45] détacher l'unité d'habitation
[2:11:46] accessoire de l'immeuble
[2:11:48] résidentiel. 5,1 à 5,6... 5.9
[2:11:54] Adoption avec modifications d'un
[2:11:55] règlement décrétant les tarifs
[2:11:56] exigibles pour le financement de
[2:11:57] biens, services et activités
[2:11:58] offerts par la Ville de
[2:11:59] Pointe-Claire pour l'exercice
[2:12:00] financier 2025.
[2:12:01] >> Brett Cowan, district eight.
[2:12:04] >>
[2:12:05] 5.8 Adoption without
[2:12:06] modification of a by-law
[2:12:07] amending the Village Code,
[2:12:08] By-law PC-2880, regarding
[2:12:09] authorized residential use
[2:12:10] classes as well as the layout of
[2:12:11] parking spaces required for
[2:12:12] class B dwellings in UP8. This
[2:12:13] bylaws to permit duplex type
[2:12:14] dwellings in the zone.
[2:12:25] De façon générale, la
[2:12:26] tarification des biens et
[2:12:27] services et activités a été
[2:12:29] augmenté de 3,5%, la
[2:12:31] tarification pour le non
[2:12:32] résidentiel était bien en
[2:12:33] fonction d'un écart de 140% du
[2:12:35] tarif résidentiel. Les
[2:12:37] modifications apportées au
[2:12:38] projet de règlement depuis son
[2:12:39] dépôt le 5 septembre dernier
[2:12:40] sont les suivantes: modification
[2:12:42] du tarif pour la location d'un
[2:12:44] espaces de stationnement public
[2:12:45] de 5 à 10 dollars, modification
[2:12:47] du terme événements spéciaux
[2:12:48] pour événement nécessitant des
[2:12:50] ressources de la ville, ajouté
[2:12:51] une section portant sur les
[2:12:52] permis pour colporteur, ajouté
[2:12:54] une section portant sur les
[2:12:55] permis pour distribution de
[2:12:57] matériel publicitaire, ajoute de
[2:12:58] la ligne cinq virgule 7,3 pour
[2:13:01] les heures supplémentaires,
[2:13:02] ajoute de la ligne 5,7 virgule
[2:13:05] 5,9, préparation pour la régate,
[2:13:06] un quart de deux semaines.
[2:13:08] Retrait de la catégorie et dix à
[2:13:09] la ligne cinq virgule 8,5. Ajout
[2:13:11] de la ligne cinq virgule
[2:13:13] (---)
[2:13:14] comme Jeunesse de 11 à 14 ans,
[2:13:15] une fois par semaine. Ajoute des
[2:13:17] lignes 5,5
[2:13:18] (---)
[2:13:19] l'équipe de natation non
[2:13:21] compétitif résidents et six
[2:13:22] virgule 5,3 points virgule
[2:13:24] quatre,
[2:13:25] (---)
[2:13:26] pour les non-résidents.
[2:13:30] >> 5.10 Adoption without
[2:13:31] modification of a by-law
[2:13:32] decreeing a long-term borrowing
[2:13:33] and capital expenditures for
[2:13:34] works regarding parks, green
[2:13:35] spaces, shorelines, bike paths
[2:13:36] and sports fields for a total of
[2:13:37] $ 1,635,000. More specifically
[2:13:40] for the construction
[2:13:42] reconstruction of development
[2:13:43] and redevelopment and
[2:13:45] refurbishment's -- retaining
[2:13:46] walls, drinking fountains,
[2:13:47] street furniture, playground
[2:13:49] equipment, bike paths, fences,
[2:13:52] sports fields, relaxation areas,
[2:13:54] playgrounds as well as elaborate
[2:13:56] specifically assigned to these
[2:13:58] projects at various locations in
[2:14:00] the residential sector. The
[2:14:01] amount to be financed will be
[2:14:03] reimbursed by tax money on the
[2:14:05] entire municipality based on --
[2:14:08] over a 20-year period.
[2:14:10] >> For 5.8 to 5.10, do I have a
[2:14:13] mover? - Oui, Bruno Tremblay,
[2:14:16] district six.
[2:14:18] >> And a seconder?
[2:14:19] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:14:20] >> All in favour? - Merci! 5.11
[2:14:26] Adoption sans modification d'un
[2:14:27] règlement décrétant un emprunt à
[2:14:28] long terme et une dépense en
[2:14:29] immobilisations pour des travaux
[2:14:30] d'infrastructures municipales en
[2:14:31] divers endroits pour un montant
[2:14:32] de 2 555 000 $. Travaux de
[2:14:36] construction reconstruction,
[2:14:37] réflexions, réhabilitation de
[2:14:38] trottoirs, bordure, balle de
[2:14:40] béton services, service de type
[2:14:41] conduit au, frigo, Santerre
[2:14:44] pluviales, raccordement de
[2:14:45] services, Fondation de, rue
[2:14:46] pavage, sur éclairage routier,
[2:14:48] travailler travaux connexes à
[2:14:49] divers endroits ici que la
[2:14:50] main-d'oeuvre affectées
[2:14:51] spécifiquement à ces projets. Le
[2:14:52] montant financier sera
[2:14:53] remboursée par le biais d'une
[2:14:54] taxe imposée à l'ensemble de la
[2:14:55] municipalité sur la base de la
[2:14:56] valeur foncière. La valeur
[2:14:58] foncière des immeubles imposants
[2:15:00] les se sur une période de 20
[2:15:02] ans... 5.13 Adoption sans
[2:15:04] modification d'un règlement
[2:15:05] décrétant un emprunt à long
[2:15:06] terme et une dépense en
[2:15:07] immobilisations pour des travaux
[2:15:08] électriques à divers endroits
[2:15:09] pour un montant total de 4 855
[2:15:10] 000 $.
[2:15:11] >> 5.12 Adoption without
[2:15:12] modification of a by-law
[2:15:13] decreeing a long-term borrowing
[2:15:14] and capital expenditures for
[2:15:15] various works on municipal
[2:15:16] buildings for a total of $
[2:15:17] 3,690,000. Various works being
[2:15:18] roofing, foundation envelopes,
[2:15:19] doors, windows, masonry,
[2:15:20] balcony, staircases, handrails,
[2:15:21] paint, ceramic, floor coverings,
[2:15:23] supply and installation,
[2:15:24] replacement and upgrading
[2:15:26] mechanical, electrical HVAC,
[2:15:28] plumbing, fire protections, --
[2:15:30] refitting, relayed it works in
[2:15:31] connection with the asset
[2:15:32] management plan as well as
[2:15:34] labour specific -- idea how to
[2:15:36] be financed will be reimbursed
[2:15:38] by tax on the entire
[2:15:40] municipality based on the
[2:15:41] property value of tax over a
[2:15:43] 20-year period.
[2:15:55] Travaux de remplacement de
[2:15:57] réfection d'éclairage, de
[2:15:58] luminaires qu'offre la
[2:15:59] circulation mise aux noms qu'on
[2:16:00] du filage, système de contrôle,
[2:16:02] système UPS et divers travaux
[2:16:03] connexes ainsi que la
[2:16:05] main-d'oeuvre associait ces
[2:16:06] projets. Le montant financier
[2:16:07] sera remboursée par le biais
[2:16:08] d'une taxe imposée à l'ensemble
[2:16:09] de la municipalité. Sur la base
[2:16:11] de la valeur foncière des
[2:16:12] immeubles imposables est et ce
[2:16:13] sur une période de 20.
[2:16:16] Pour cinq points 11 à cinq
[2:16:17] ghetto...
[2:16:18] >> 5.14 Adoption without
[2:16:19] modification of a by-law
[2:16:20] decreeing a long-term borrowing
[2:16:21] and capital expenditures for
[2:16:22] professional services and major
[2:16:23] municipal infrastructure works
[2:16:24] in various locations for a total
[2:16:26] amount of $ 6,285,000.
[2:16:29] Professional services and
[2:16:30] construction, reconstruction,
[2:16:31] repair, rehabilitation of
[2:16:33] sidewalks, concrete slabs,
[2:16:34] malls, concrete structures,
[2:16:37] overpasses, services for water
[2:16:39] mains, sanitary sewer and storms
[2:16:41] who are. Street foundations,
[2:16:43] paving, road, lighting related
[2:16:44] works as well as labour
[2:16:46] specifically assigned to these
[2:16:47] projects and -- will be
[2:16:49] reimbursed by tax money on the
[2:16:50] entire municipality based on the
[2:16:52] property value of taxable --
[2:16:54] over a 20-year period. - Paul
[2:17:01] Bissonnette, district.
[2:17:05] >> All in favour? 6.1 Accorder
[2:17:08] des soutiens financiers à divers
[2:17:09] organismes sans but lucratif
[2:17:10] pour un montant total de 63 600
[2:17:11] $. La Ville accorde un soutien
[2:17:16] financier non financier à plus
[2:17:17] de 20 organismes offrant des
[2:17:19] services sur le territoire de la
[2:17:20] ville.
[2:17:24] >> 6.2 Request to the City of
[2:17:26] Montreal to maintain
[2:17:27] fluoridation of drinking water.
[2:17:29] So instead of reading what we
[2:17:31] prepared, I was requested to
[2:17:32] read the resolution itself.
[2:17:34] >> Yes, if you don't mind.
[2:17:35] >> No problem. As an agreement
[2:17:37] between the City of
[2:17:38] Pointe-Claire, the City of
[2:17:39] Montréal into December -- the
[2:17:41] transfer of activities related
[2:17:42] to the operation of the
[2:17:44] Pointe-Claire drinking water
[2:17:45] production plant. Whereas this
[2:17:47] agreement was signed since under
[2:17:49] article 16 and 19, paragraph,
[2:17:51] five of the -- municipal powers
[2:17:54] in service in -- a certain
[2:17:57] suburb -- and the jurisdiction
[2:17:58] of the agglomeration whereas the
[2:18:00] drinking water consumed by the
[2:18:02] population of Pointe-Claire is
[2:18:03] produced at the Pointe-Claire
[2:18:04] filtration plant. Whereas the
[2:18:05] drinking water produced by the
[2:18:06] Pointe-Claire and Dorval
[2:18:09] filtration plants have been
[2:18:10] fluoride for many decades.
[2:18:11] Whereas scientific studies on
[2:18:13] the public health benefits of
[2:18:15] fluoridation drinking water are
[2:18:16] widely recognized. Whereas the
[2:18:18] fluoridation of drinking water
[2:18:19] is a measure recommended by the
[2:18:22] -- because it contributes to the
[2:18:24] populations oral health and
[2:18:26] reduces social inequities in
[2:18:28] health. Whereas the City of
[2:18:30] Montréal plans without any prior
[2:18:32] public consultations to end
[2:18:33] water fluoridation by the end of
[2:18:35] 2024, this decision was taken
[2:18:38] unilaterally without consulting
[2:18:40] the effected reconstituted city,
[2:18:43] whereas the decision to stop
[2:18:45] flow writing of -- fluoride
[2:18:49] eating, drinking water without
[2:18:50] consulting citizens -- is an
[2:18:53] admission of democratic failure
[2:18:55] in the workings of municipal
[2:18:57] authorities and the lack of
[2:18:58] respect for the population.
[2:18:59] Whereas the City of
[2:19:00] Pointe-Claire has never
[2:19:01] expressed the desire to stop
[2:19:03] floor writing its drinking
[2:19:05] water. It will be moved and
[2:19:07] seconded to express import for
[2:19:10] maintaining fluoridation of
[2:19:11] drinking water, to ask the City
[2:19:12] of Montréal to review its
[2:19:13] decision to stop fluoride eating
[2:19:15] drinking water, to require the
[2:19:17] City of Montréal to hold a
[2:19:18] public consultation to allow
[2:19:20] considered citizens to express
[2:19:21] themselves and for this
[2:19:23] resolution to many people,
[2:19:25] Valérie Plante of -- executive
[2:19:29] committee of the City of
[2:19:30] Montréal, the cowboy,'s
[2:19:33] executive committee Montréal,
[2:19:34] Dr. Luc Boileau, -- Dr. midway,
[2:19:39] for the Montréal region,
[2:19:40] Cassandra, the minister of
[2:19:41] Health, Gregory Kelly, MNA for
[2:19:44] Jacques-Cartier, mayors of
[2:19:45] reconstituted cities.
[2:19:52] (---)
[2:19:53] Le vin descende de 1013
[2:19:54] concernant le transfert des
[2:19:55] activités liées à l'exploitation
[2:19:56] de l'usine de production de
[2:19:57] potable de Pointe-Claire,
[2:19:59] attendu que cette convention a
[2:20:00] été signée puisqu'en vertu des
[2:20:01] articles 16 et 19, cinquième...
[2:20:03] paragraphe 5 de la Loi sur
[2:20:05] l'exercice de certaines
[2:20:06] compétences municipales dans
[2:20:08] certaines agglomérations,
[2:20:10] l'alimentation en eau est en
[2:20:11] (---)
[2:20:12] Grosmaire action. L'eau potable
[2:20:13] consommée par l'application de
[2:20:15] Pointe-Claire est produite à
[2:20:16] l'usine de plus de rations de
[2:20:17] Pointe-Claire. Attendu que l'eau
[2:20:18] potable produite par les usines
[2:20:19] de filtration de Pointe-Claire
[2:20:20] et Dorval
[2:20:22] (inaudible)
[2:20:23] depuis de nombreuses décennies.
[2:20:24] Attendu que les études
[2:20:25] scientifiques sur les bienfaits
[2:20:26] de la fluoration de l'eau,
[2:20:28] potable sur la santé publique
[2:20:30] sur... soit largement reconnue.
[2:20:31] Attendu que le fluoration de
[2:20:32] l'eau potable est une mesure
[2:20:33] recommandée par la direction
[2:20:35] régionale de la santé publique.
[2:20:36] Elle contribue à la santé
[2:20:38] bucco-dentaire de la population
[2:20:39] et réduit les inégalités
[2:20:40] sociales en matière de santé.
[2:20:42] Rendu... attendu que la Ville de
[2:20:43] Montréal
[2:20:44] (---)
[2:20:45] préalable de mettre fin à la
[2:20:46] fluoration de l'eau d'ici la fin
[2:20:47] de l'année 2024. Cette décision
[2:20:48] a été pris sans consultation
[2:20:51] auprès des villes reconstituée
[2:20:52] concernés. Attendu que la
[2:20:53] décision de cesser la fluoration
[2:20:54] de l'eau potable sans
[2:20:56] consultation citoyenne, ni
[2:20:58] consultation auprès des élus de
[2:20:59] la Ville de Pointe-Claire est un
[2:21:00] constat d'échec démocratique du
[2:21:01] fonctionnement des instances
[2:21:03] municipales et un manque de
[2:21:04] respect envers la population.
[2:21:08] Attendu que la Ville de
[2:21:09] Pointe-Claire n'a jamais exprimé
[2:21:10] la volonté de cesser la
[2:21:11] fluoration de l'eau potable.
[2:21:13] Très résolu de demander à
[2:21:14] l'appel de Montréal de réviser
[2:21:15] sa décision... d'exprimer le
[2:21:17] soutien au maintien de la
[2:21:18] fluoration de l'eau potable, de
[2:21:20] demander à la Ville de Montréal
[2:21:21] va réviser sa décision de cesser
[2:21:22] la fluoration de l'eau potable.
[2:21:24] D'exiger à la Ville de Montréal
[2:21:25] de tenir une consultation
[2:21:26] publique afin de permettre aux
[2:21:27] citoyens concernés de
[2:21:29] s'exprimer. J'ai une copie de
[2:21:30] cette résolution soit acheminée
[2:21:31] à Valérie Plante, mairesse de
[2:21:32] Montréal.
[2:21:34] (inaudible)
[2:21:35] Responsable de l'eau au comité
[2:21:37] exécutif de la Ville de
[2:21:38] Montréal. Le grand point,
[2:21:39] président du comité exécutif,
[2:21:41] docteur Luc Boileau, directeur
[2:21:42] national de la santé publique,
[2:21:43] docteure Milner nos Rouyn,
[2:21:45] directrice régionale de la santé
[2:21:46] publique de la région de
[2:21:47] Montréal, Christian Dubé,
[2:21:48] ministre de la santé, Gregory
[2:21:50] Kenny, député de Jacques-Cartier
[2:21:52] maires et mairesses veulent
[2:21:53] reconstituer.
[2:21:55] - Merci madame Thibault et
[2:21:57] madame
[2:21:58] (inaudible)
[2:21:59] . I believe it is my about done
[2:22:00] of itch.
[2:22:02] Pour 6,1 à 6,2...
[2:22:07] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:22:09] >> And a seconder?
[2:22:11] >> --
[2:22:13] >> I would like to speak to 6.2.
[2:22:15] I have some problems with 6.2
[2:22:19] because it is not doing exactly
[2:22:21] what the mayor said we were
[2:22:23] going to do. And that is to ask
[2:22:25] for a cautionary pause from the
[2:22:27] City of Montréal while we
[2:22:29] investigate sanctions, making a
[2:22:30] statement that we are -- the
[2:22:32] City has come to a conclusion
[2:22:34] that ahead of the public
[2:22:36] consultations, our own public
[2:22:38] consultations, we should
[2:22:41] continue the fluoridation. A
[2:22:44] young man in my district went
[2:22:47] out the door to door and got
[2:22:49] 2000 signatures to support the
[2:22:52] notion of seizing fluoridation.
[2:22:55] I can't ignore that. I will talk
[2:22:57] about citizen participation,
[2:22:59] these are 2000 signatures -- not
[2:23:02] a click on the internet but he
[2:23:04] actually went door to door to
[2:23:08] ensure that his process was
[2:23:10] honest and up and up, I went out
[2:23:12] with him. I didn't go up to the
[2:23:14] door with him. I stayed on the
[2:23:16] street and watched him. I was
[2:23:18] really surprised at how many
[2:23:19] people he got yeses. From 2000
[2:23:23] yeses, he saw 2500 doors. From
[2:23:27] the sampling I saw, one night,
[2:23:29] two hours walking with him up
[2:23:31] and down the street, most people
[2:23:32] signed his petition. I have a
[2:23:36] great deal of difficulty that we
[2:23:39] ignore this petition. The City
[2:23:40] of Montréal did not ignore. The
[2:23:42] City of Montréal has been -- has
[2:23:45] told everybody for seven years
[2:23:48] now that they are going to shut
[2:23:49] down the fluoridation as soon as
[2:23:52] the equipment broke down. This
[2:23:54] petition that this young man
[2:23:56] organized from our citizens gave
[2:23:58] some legitimacy to the City of
[2:23:59] Montréal, perhaps jumping ahead
[2:24:01] of that schedule and shedding
[2:24:03] fluoridation down before they
[2:24:05] actually had a mechanical
[2:24:08] problem. They said they were
[2:24:09] going to do it. But I find that
[2:24:12] -- I will vote for it because
[2:24:13] I'm not gonna be the lone voice
[2:24:15] fighting on the Hill against all
[2:24:16] my colleagues. I just have some
[2:24:18] reservations about it. I
[2:24:22] question that we pass a
[2:24:23] resolution like this where we
[2:24:26] make no -- recognition about a
[2:24:28] petition that's out there. 2000
[2:24:29] signatures were submitted to the
[2:24:31] City, each Councillor got it.
[2:24:34] Plus the city. The names could
[2:24:36] all be verified and confirmed
[2:24:39] that they are valid citizens. I
[2:24:41] just wanted to say that. There
[2:24:43] is another side. And that I am
[2:24:47] not very content, let's put it
[2:24:49] that way, with the way this
[2:24:50] thing is going in. But not
[2:24:53] sufficiently to vote against all
[2:24:54] my colleagues. So I will support
[2:24:55] this resolution when it comes to
[2:24:57] a vote momentarily.
[2:24:59] >> Just to reiterate the
[2:25:00] position of the ASM and the way
[2:25:03] I responded to the young man
[2:25:06] that Councillor Cowan is
[2:25:07] referring to. We are not
[2:25:09] scientists. We are not making
[2:25:10] this decision. We leave this in
[2:25:12] the hand -- in the hands of
[2:25:14] science. And we have
[2:25:16] professionals who know what
[2:25:17] they're doing -- what they are
[2:25:18] doing and we are not pro or
[2:25:20] against. But we maintain the
[2:25:21] status quo and let's go with the
[2:25:22] science. That has always been
[2:25:24] the answer. So, those in favour?
[2:25:26] >> Mister Mayor, a comment.
[2:25:28] >> Go ahead.
[2:25:29] >> In reference to the comment
[2:25:31] from Mr. Cowan, I'm not offended
[2:25:33] at all if you were to vote
[2:25:34] against this. I'm looking at the
[2:25:38] resolution, from what is saying,
[2:25:39] I'm considering a resolution and
[2:25:41] probably will vote for it. But I
[2:25:45] wouldn't in any way feel that
[2:25:46] you would be voting against
[2:25:48] myself or other of our
[2:25:49] colleagues here based on your
[2:25:51] interpretation of the proposal
[2:25:55] that we are looking at. I just
[2:25:56] wanted to reassure you on that
[2:25:58] notion.
[2:25:59] >> Thank you. But I'm more
[2:26:00] concerned about the way Montréal
[2:26:01] will interpret this. Not my
[2:26:04] colleagues.
[2:26:06] >> Well, we're not alone. It's
[2:26:09] essentially all the West Island
[2:26:11] municipalities. Montréal will
[2:26:12] get a united front on this one.
[2:26:13] And we are just part of it. And
[2:26:15] that is the ASM's decision. And
[2:26:17] for the reason I just -- all
[2:26:19] those in favour? Against? Okay.
[2:26:29] 7.1 Déposer le procès-verbal de
[2:26:30] la réunion du 4 septembre 2024
[2:26:31] du Comité consultatif jeunesse.
[2:26:35] >> 7.2 File the minutes of the
[2:26:36] September 26, 2024, meeting of
[2:26:37] the Pointe-Claire Public Library
[2:26:38] Advisory Board.
[2:26:39] 7.3 Déposer et approuver le
[2:26:40] procès-verbal de la réunion du
[2:26:41] comité de circulation du 8
[2:26:42] octobre 2024. Excusez-moi, c'est
[2:26:44] écrit dans l'agenda déposé et
[2:26:45] approuvé. On devrait lire
[2:26:47] uniquement déposé. Déposer le
[2:26:49] procès-verbal de la réunion du
[2:26:50] comité de circulation du 8
[2:26:51] octobre 2024. >> In English,
[2:26:56] file and not approved. Just file
[2:26:57] the minutes of the meeting on
[2:26:59] October 8th, 2024.
[2:27:04] >> 7.4 Appoint a member to the
[2:27:06] Board of Directors of the
[2:27:07] Pointe-Claire Canoe Kayak Club
[2:27:08] Inc. Monsieur Jacques Christophe
[2:27:10] Poitiers... oh
[2:27:11] 10.1 Déposer la liste des
[2:27:12] amendements budgétaires et le
[2:27:13] registre des chèques pour la
[2:27:14] période du 23 septembre 2024 au
[2:27:15] 25 octobre 2024. Is appointed
[2:27:16] for a three-year mandate.
[2:27:17] >> 7.4, do I have a mover?
[2:27:18] >> Paul Bissonnette, district.
[2:27:19] To
[2:27:20] >> A seconder?
[2:27:21] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:27:22] >> All in favour?
[2:27:32] >> 10.2 File the comparative
[2:27:34] financial statement and
[2:27:35] projected statement. The
[2:27:36] comparative financial statements
[2:27:37] as of -- as well as the
[2:27:39] projected statements as of
[2:27:40] December 31st, 2024.
[2:27:42] 10.3 Octroyer un contrat pour
[2:27:43] l'acquisition des licences pour
[2:27:44] les logiciels Abnormal Security,
[2:27:46] à ITI INC., Pour un montant
[2:27:47] total de 98 868,44 $, taxes
[2:27:50] incluses.
[2:27:59] Détecter... arrêtent l'ensemble
[2:28:01] des. Attaques
[2:28:02] (---)
[2:28:03] la boutonnage du dandinait, en
[2:28:04] compromission de la messages
[2:28:05] d'entreprises, fraude à la
[2:28:07] facture de fournisseur, etc....
[2:28:08] Pour 10,3 10,4... 11.1 Approuver
[2:28:09] le calendrier des séances
[2:28:10] ordinaires du conseil pour
[2:28:11] l'année 2025. >> 10.4 Award a
[2:28:12] contract for annual support and
[2:28:13] maintenance of Kronos equipment
[2:28:14] and software
[2:28:15] (IP240018)
[2:28:16] , to KRONOS CANADIAN SYSTEMS
[2:28:17] INC.
[2:28:18] (UKG)
[2:28:19] , For a total amount of $
[2:28:21] 50,703.49, taxes included. Gross
[2:28:24] is the software that manages
[2:28:26] working hours for all of city
[2:28:28] employees. Do I have a mover?
[2:28:33] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:28:35] district three.
[2:28:36] >> And a seconder?
[2:28:37] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[2:28:38] four.
[2:28:39] >> All in favour?
[2:28:46] >> For 11 point, when do I have
[2:28:47] a mover?
[2:28:48] Bruno Tremblay, district six. >>
[2:28:50] And a seconder?
[2:28:51] Claude Cousineau, district un.
[2:28:54] >> All in favour?
[2:28:59] >> 12.1 File the list of
[2:29:00] delegated staff changes for the
[2:29:01] month of November 2024. 12.2
[2:29:04] Approuver la liste des
[2:29:05] changements au personnel par
[2:29:06] décisions non déléguées au 5
[2:29:07] novembre 2024.
[2:29:11] >> For 12.2, do I have a mover?
[2:29:13] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:29:14] >> And he seconder?
[2:29:16] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:29:18] >> All in favour?
[2:29:25] >> 14.1 Exercise the renewal
[2:29:27] option provided for in the
[2:29:28] contract entered into with FOCUS
[2:29:29] BY TELUS COMMUNICATIONS INC.,
[2:29:30] For the years 2025 and 2026, in
[2:29:31] the amount of $ 143,703.68,
[2:29:34] taxes included for the purchase
[2:29:36] and the implementation of a
[2:29:39] telemetry
[2:29:40] (GPS)
[2:29:41] system for fleet management and
[2:29:42] for the acquisition and
[2:29:45] implantation of a fuel
[2:29:46] management system. 14.2 Se
[2:29:47] prévaloir de l'option de
[2:29:48] renouvellement prévue au contrat
[2:29:49] intervenu avec SIMO MANAGEMENT
[2:29:50] INC. Et AQUA DATA INC., Pour
[2:29:51] l'année 2025, au montant de 146
[2:29:52] 581,52 $, taxes incluses, pour
[2:29:53] le diagnostic du réseau
[2:29:54] d'aqueduc et la mise à jour du
[2:29:57] programme de rinçage
[2:29:58] unidirectionnel. Dans le but de
[2:30:03] planifie la mise à niveau et la
[2:30:05] gestion des composantes du
[2:30:06] réseau d'eau potable, les
[2:30:07] services des Travaux publics et
[2:30:09] (inaudible)
[2:30:10] mandate de films spécialisés
[2:30:12] pour effectuer le diagnostic du
[2:30:13] réseau d'aqueduc. L'inspection
[2:30:15] des poteaux d'incendie et
[2:30:17] d'exécution du programme de
[2:30:18] Reyes rinçage une directionnelle
[2:30:20] ainsi que la mise à jour des
[2:30:21] informations recueillies lors du
[2:30:22] diagnostic du réseau d'aqueduc
[2:30:24] dans la base de données.
[2:30:28] >> 14.3 Exercise the renewal
[2:30:29] option provided for in the
[2:30:30] contract entered into with KSG
[2:30:31] INC., For the year 2025, in the
[2:30:32] amount of $ 48 806,89, taxes
[2:30:36] included for fencing repair
[2:30:37] works on the territory of the
[2:30:39] City of Pointe-Claire the
[2:30:41] contract will re-cover the
[2:30:43] repair of various types of
[2:30:45] existing fences and the
[2:30:46] installation of new fences
[2:30:47] within the city. Pour 14,1
[2:30:49] 14,3... 14.4 Se prévaloir de
[2:30:51] l'option de renouvellement
[2:30:52] prévue au contrat intervenu avec
[2:30:53] TECH-MIX, UNE DIVISION DE BAUVAL
[2:30:54] INC. Do I have a mover?
[2:30:55] >> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[2:30:56] >> Seconder?
[2:30:57] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:30:58] >> All in favour?
[2:31:03] , Pour l'année 2025, au montant
[2:31:05] de 68 525,10 $, taxes incluses,
[2:31:08] pour la fourniture et la
[2:31:09] livraison sur demande de
[2:31:11] l'asphalte tiède à viscosité
[2:31:12] élevée incluant le polymère pour
[2:31:15] utilisation hivernale. Durant
[2:31:17] les périodes hivernales et
[2:31:18] lorsque l'asphalte chaude n'est
[2:31:19] pas disponible, l'asphalte tiède
[2:31:21] est utilisée dans les travaux de
[2:31:23] réparation des briques Atkins,
[2:31:24] ni des poules et d'entretien de
[2:31:26] la surface déchausser.
[2:31:30] >> 14.5 Exercise the renewal
[2:31:31] option provided for in the
[2:31:32] contract entered into with COLAS
[2:31:34] (formerly MELOCHE, DIVISION DE
[2:31:35] SINTRA)
[2:31:36] , for the year 2025, in the
[2:31:37] amount of $ 166,403.89, taxes
[2:31:42] included for the supply and the
[2:31:43] delivery of various types of
[2:31:44] stones. These types of stones
[2:31:47] are required for maintenance
[2:31:49] work on the cities
[2:31:50] infrastructures.
[2:31:51] 14.6 Se prévaloir de l'option de
[2:31:52] renouvellement prévue au contrat
[2:31:53] intervenu avec TERRASSEMENT
[2:31:54] TECHNIQue SYLVAIN LABRECQue INC.
[2:31:55] , Pour l'année 2025, au montant
[2:31:57] de 266 454,56 $, taxes incluses,
[2:31:58] pour les travaux de plantation
[2:32:00] et d'entretien d'arbres. Les
[2:32:05] travaux consistent à effectuer
[2:32:06] la plantation et l'entretien
[2:32:07] d'armes de calibre, 40, 50
[2:32:10] millimètres pour une quantité
[2:32:11] approximative de 650 arbres, le
[2:32:13] long des rues, dans les parcs et
[2:32:14] espaces verts et des boisés
[2:32:15] naturels. Ce contrat comprend
[2:32:17] une garantie ainsi que les
[2:32:19] travaux d'arrosage et
[2:32:20] d'entretien d'une durée de 200.
[2:32:25] >> 14.7 Exercise the renewal
[2:32:26] option provided for in the
[2:32:27] contract entered into with
[2:32:28] ROXBORO EXCAVATION INC., For the
[2:32:29] year 2025, in the amount of $
[2:32:33] 552,796.93, taxes included for
[2:32:37] the disposal of dry and
[2:32:38] excavated materials. The public
[2:32:39] works and buildings department
[2:32:40] is responsible for disposing of
[2:32:42] dry materials, excavated
[2:32:44] materials and residues from
[2:32:45] mechanical street sweeping
[2:32:46] within the city. Dry and
[2:32:48] excavate materials come from
[2:32:49] repairs to aqueducts -- and
[2:32:51] pavement maintenance. Pour 14,4
[2:32:55] à 14,7... 14.8 Octroyer un
[2:32:57] contrat pour la fourniture et la
[2:32:58] livraison de chlorure de sodium
[2:32:59] (sel traité de déglaçage des
[2:33:00] chaussées)
[2:33:01] pour 2024 à CARGILL SEL,
[2:33:02] SéCURITé ROUTIèRE, UNE DIVISION
[2:33:03] DE CARGILL LTéE pour un montant
[2:33:04] total de 1 127 950,74 $, taxes
[2:33:05] incluses. Do I have a mover?
[2:33:06] >> Sorry, Eric Stork, district
[2:33:07] seven.
[2:33:08] >> And a seconder?
[2:33:09] >> Tara Stainforth.
[2:33:10] >> All in favour?
[2:33:26] C'est contre-attaque trois et
[2:33:27] dans le cas de l'entente que la
[2:33:29] Ville de Pointe-Claire a conclu
[2:33:30] avec la Ville de Montréal et les
[2:33:31] autres villes liées. La
[2:33:33] Regroupement permet une économie
[2:33:34] en raison du volume
[2:33:35] (inaudible)
[2:33:36] et du fait d'éviter les
[2:33:37] procédures appel d'offres lancé
[2:33:38] par avec le point. >> 14.9
[2:33:42] Approve a change order to the
[2:33:43] contract entered into with
[2:33:44] BIO-CONTRÔLE ARBORICOLE INC.
[2:33:45] , For buckthorn eradication
[2:33:47] works in the Tony Proudfoot
[2:33:48] woodland, for an amount of $
[2:33:51] 11,328.72, taxes included. The
[2:33:54] changes required to allow the
[2:33:55] clearing of a specific area near
[2:33:57] the -- planting of the area for
[2:33:59] the year 2024. 14.10 Approuver
[2:34:01] une modification au contrat
[2:34:02] intervenu avec SERVICES D'ARBRES
[2:34:03] PRIMEAU INC. Pour des travaux
[2:34:04] d'arboriculture, pour un montant
[2:34:05] de 34 492,50 $, taxes incluses.
[2:34:09] La modification comptera est
[2:34:11] dans le but d'accélérer le
[2:34:13] calendrier d'élagage et
[2:34:15] l'abattage, afin de permettre de
[2:34:16] façon proactive d'atténuer les
[2:34:18] risques et de mieux préparer les
[2:34:19] arbres à résister aux événements
[2:34:21] extrêmes.
[2:34:23] Pour 14,8 à 14,10...
[2:34:26] Do I have a mover?
[2:34:27] >> Tariffs in fourth, district
[2:34:29] four.
[2:34:30] - Merci! >> A seconder?
[2:34:31] >> But in a timely, district
[2:34:33] six. All
[2:34:34] >> In favour?
[2:34:41] >> 15.1 Award a contract for the
[2:34:42] purchase of new office furniture
[2:34:43] for the Public Works Department,
[2:34:44] to OBURO
[2:34:46] (9497-3351 QUÉBEC INC.)
[2:34:47] , for a total amount of $
[2:34:48] 460,442.66, taxes included. This
[2:34:51] contract is for the purchase of
[2:34:53] new office furniture for the
[2:34:55] public sport department --. 15.2
[2:35:02] Octroyer un contrat pour le
[2:35:03] service de déneigement,
[2:35:04] d'entretien et de réparation des
[2:35:05] toitures, à FERBLANTERIE LUCIEN
[2:35:08] ST-ONGE LTéE, pour un montant
[2:35:09] total de 97 098,46 $, taxes
[2:35:10] incluses.
[2:35:16] >> 15.3 Approve a change order
[2:35:18] to the contract entered into
[2:35:19] with CONSTRUCTION CPB INC., For
[2:35:20] the extension and renovation of
[2:35:23] Public Works, for an amount of $
[2:35:24] 70,918.57, taxes included. 34
[2:35:29] change orders concerning
[2:35:30] building mechanic, structural
[2:35:31] electricity and architecture.
[2:35:33] 15.4 Approuver une modification
[2:35:34] au contrat intervenu avec PRISME
[2:35:35] ARCHITECTURE, pour des services
[2:35:36] professionnels pour le
[2:35:38] réaménagement et
[2:35:39] l'agrandissement du bâtiment des
[2:35:40] travaux publics, pour un montant
[2:35:41] de 51 998,12 $, taxes incluses.
[2:35:45] La modification est avec le
[2:35:47] changement des règles sur la
[2:35:49] traçabilité des sols contaminés
[2:35:52] qui a été modifiée par le
[2:35:53] gouvernement du Québec après que
[2:35:55] le concept des travaux aient été
[2:35:57] finalisés.
[2:36:01] >> 15.5 Approve a change order
[2:36:02] to the contract entered into
[2:36:03] with GROUPE CIRTECH INC., For
[2:36:04] roofing works at Cedar and Ovide
[2:36:05] park chalets, for an amount of $
[2:36:07] 2 496.92, taxes included. The
[2:36:11] modification involves relocating
[2:36:12] the mass of the existing
[2:36:14] lamppost to completely
[2:36:16] waterproofing and the roof --.
[2:36:18] 15.6 Approuver une modification
[2:36:19] au contrat intervenu avec LES
[2:36:20] ENTREPRISES VERRECCHIA INC.,
[2:36:21] Pour la réfection des vestiaires
[2:36:22] de l'Aréna BobBirnie, pour un
[2:36:24] montant de 26 785,72 $, taxes
[2:36:25] incluses.
[2:36:31] Pas... pour faire le ménage des
[2:36:33] murs et l'enlèvement de
[2:36:34] peinturer cahier, tels que
[2:36:35] nécessaire pour la nouvelle
[2:36:37] peinture. Les changements
[2:36:39] d'ancrage des banques pour
[2:36:41] ancrage réussit avec 6 livres.
[2:36:47] Pour 15,1 qu'ils virgule... six
[2:36:48] 15,1, 15,3 à 15,4, je vais voter
[2:36:49] contre. Do I have a mover?
[2:36:50] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:36:52] >> And a seconder?
[2:36:53] >> Paul Bissonnette, district
[2:36:55] two.
[2:36:56] >> All in favour? Excuse me, Mr.
[2:36:59] Kusie.
[2:37:06] Encore une fois, les dépenses
[2:37:11] sur le building et des Travaux
[2:37:16] publics, déjà là, ils sont plus
[2:37:21] 1,1 million. Pour cette raison,
[2:37:23] je vote contre 15 virgule, un
[2:37:26] 15,3 15 virgule. Quatre
[2:37:27] - C'est bien noté!
[2:37:28] - C'est raté! If you want to
[2:37:31] finish the vote for the other
[2:37:32] councillors.
[2:37:33] >> Okay, all in favour?
[2:37:34] >> Thank you.
[2:37:43] >>
[2:37:44] 16.1 Approve a change order to
[2:37:45] the contract entered into with
[2:37:46] LE GROUPE LML LTÉE, for
[2:37:47] lighting of the Reading Garden,
[2:37:48] for an amount of $ 2,523.55,
[2:37:49] taxes included. It's for the
[2:37:50] installation of a custom-made
[2:37:51] play to protect the pipe during
[2:37:53] the winter period. 16.2
[2:37:54] Approuver une modification au
[2:37:55] contrat intervenu avec LES
[2:37:56] ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC., Pour la
[2:37:58] construction d'un sentier
[2:37:59] polyvalent entre les avenues
[2:38:00] Alston et Stillview
[2:38:01] (piste cyclable Brigadoon)
[2:38:03] , pour un montant de 18 199,39
[2:38:04] $, taxes incluses.
[2:38:12] Trois arbres, tout ce qu'on dit
[2:38:13] à maître des températures suite
[2:38:15] à l'évaluation de leurs
[2:38:16] conditions par une ferme
[2:38:17] externe. En raison de leurs
[2:38:18] pauvres conditions structural et
[2:38:20] leur proximité au réseau
[2:38:22] d'Hydro-Québec, les arbres ont
[2:38:23] été abattus par une entreprise
[2:38:25] spécialisée.
[2:38:28] >> 16.3 Approve a change order
[2:38:29] to the contract entered into
[2:38:30] with TROICÉ CONSTRUCTION INC.,
[2:38:33] For the construction of an
[2:38:34] accessible sanitary building at
[2:38:36] Tony-Proudfoot Park, for an
[2:38:39] amount of $ 2,568.35, taxes
[2:38:40] included. There are three
[2:38:42] changes to the contract. It is a
[2:38:45] supply and installation of a hot
[2:38:46] water tank. Supply installation
[2:38:48] of fireproof wood panels for the
[2:38:50] alarm systems in the mechanical.
[2:38:52] Room in the supply and
[2:38:53] installation of an accessory for
[2:38:54] filling water bottles --. Pour
[2:38:59] 16,1 16,3 Do I have a mover?
[2:39:02] >> Eric Stork, district. Seven
[2:39:04] >> And a seconder?
[2:39:05] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:39:07] district three.
[2:39:08] >> All in favour? Les personnes
[2:39:11] présentes peuvent s'adresser au
[2:39:12] Conseil concernant les 17,1
[2:39:16] 17,2. Deux dérogations mineures.
[2:39:20] Alors, poursuivons. 17.1
[2:39:24] Considérer une demande de
[2:39:25] dérogation mineure concernant la
[2:39:26] propriété située au 160, avenue
[2:39:27] Labrosse. Pour permettre 1 heure
[2:39:28] de stationnement situé en marge
[2:39:30] avant là où il n'est pas permis.
[2:39:32] Des, avec 31 cas de
[2:39:34] stationnement plutôt que le
[2:39:35] minimum requis de 134. Avec 0%
[2:39:38] dameuse... d'aménagement
[2:39:39] paysager pour que le minimum
[2:39:41] requis de 10% de cette
[2:39:44] superficie. Ne comprendra pas un
[2:39:45] (---)
[2:39:46] ou une bande séparatiste
[2:39:47] gazonnée d'une largeur minimale
[2:39:48] de 2 mètres tel que requis. Le
[2:39:50] comité consultatif d'urbanisme
[2:39:52] recommande au Conseil de refuser
[2:39:54] cette demande.
[2:39:56] - Pour 17,1,
[2:39:59] Merci! Do I have a mover? I move
[2:40:01] that the minor exemption request
[2:40:03] be refused. Brent Cowan,
[2:40:05] district eight.
[2:40:06] >> And a seconder?
[2:40:07] >> Tara Stainforth, district
[2:40:09] four.
[2:40:10] >> All in favour?
[2:40:16] >> 17.2 Consider a minor
[2:40:17] exemption request concerning the
[2:40:18] property situated at 123 De
[2:40:19] Newton Square Avenue.
[2:40:20] It is to permit a garage with an
[2:40:21] eastside setback of zero metres
[2:40:22] rather than the minimum required
[2:40:24] of one metre.
[2:40:27] >> For 17.2, do I have a mover?
[2:40:29] >> I move the minor exemption
[2:40:31] requests at 17.2 be approved.
[2:40:33] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:40:35] >> And seconder?
[2:40:36] >> There are Stainforth,
[2:40:38] district one.
[2:40:39] >> All in favour?
[2:41:09] >> 17.4 Consider the site
[2:41:10] planning and architectural
[2:41:11] integration programme plans with
[2:41:12] respect to the property situated
[2:41:13] at 163 De Dieppe Avenue. It is
[2:41:14] four new construction of a two
[2:41:16] storey detached single family
[2:41:17] home. 17.5 Considérer les plans
[2:41:18] d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:41:20] architecturale relatifs à la
[2:41:21] propriété située au 136, avenue
[2:41:22] Duke-of-Kent. Pour un
[2:41:27] agrandissement du deuxième étage
[2:41:28] en ajoutant trois lucarne sur la
[2:41:29] façade avant une lucarne a
[2:41:30] pignon à l'arrière. Et une
[2:41:32] construction d'un nouveau toit
[2:41:33] de Porsche. Pour 17,3 à 17,5...
[2:41:39] Do I have a mover?
[2:41:40] >> Paul Bissonnette, district
[2:41:41] two.
[2:41:42] >> And seconder?
[2:41:43] >> Claude Cousineau, district
[2:41:45] one.
[2:41:46] >> All in favour? - Merci!
[2:41:50] It is a resolution respecting
[2:41:52] intellectual freedom in public
[2:41:54] libraries, in Québec and
[2:41:55] elsewhere, -- censorship, is
[2:41:56] friction or judgments can raise
[2:41:58] fears for the future and the
[2:41:59] fundamental mission of our
[2:42:00] cultural institutions. That's
[2:42:02] why the -- also known as a B PQ
[2:42:07] and the -- also known as BIA and
[2:42:11] Q, supported by the -- half
[2:42:13] repaired and propose this
[2:42:14] resolution to recognize the
[2:42:15] importance of our libraries
[2:42:16] essential role in respecting
[2:42:17] intellectual freedom.
[2:42:21] Oui 19,1, résolution visant à
[2:42:22] rétablir une approche claire
[2:42:23] pour envisager l'avenir des
[2:42:24] espaces verts privée par la
[2:42:25] participation du public un
[2:42:26] processus de consultation.
[2:42:27] >> For 18.1, do I have a mover?
[2:42:28] >> Bruno Tremblay, district six.
[2:42:29] >> And a seconder?
[2:42:30] >> Cynthia Highland, district
[2:42:31] five.
[2:42:32] >> All in favour?
[2:42:42] - Privées et publiques, je
[2:42:44] pense.
[2:42:45] - Non, c'est juste privée?
[2:42:46] - Privé.
[2:42:49] - Pour 19,1,
[2:42:52] And I have a mover?
[2:42:53] >> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:42:55] >> And seconder?
[2:42:58] >> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[2:42:59] district three.
[2:43:01] >> All in favour?
[2:43:02] >> There is something I would
[2:43:03] like to address. First of all, I
[2:43:04] would like to congratulate Eric
[2:43:05] Stork on his work on putting
[2:43:06] through this resolution. I would
[2:43:09] also like to congratulate all of
[2:43:11] us to -- figuring out a way to
[2:43:13] make a resolution that we can
[2:43:14] all, I hope, support and pass.
[2:43:19] >> For 19.1 --. Excuse-moi
[2:43:23] Claude.
[2:43:27] - Votre micro, s'il vous plaît.
[2:43:29] - En caucus, on a discuté et
[2:43:32] puis il manque un point
[2:43:34] important là-dedans. Ça fait
[2:43:37] longtemps que je le dis. On ne
[2:43:39] sait même pas comment que les
[2:43:42] consultations vont être faites.
[2:43:44] Ça doit être réparé avant que
[2:43:48] j'approuve cette excellente
[2:43:50] résolution. Mais, on n'a pas un
[2:43:53] plan pour tenir des
[2:43:55] consultations publiques, alors
[2:43:58] je vais voter contre.
[2:44:00] - On va faire le vote
[2:44:02] (inaudible)
[2:44:03] .
[2:44:04] >> All in favour? All opposed?
[2:44:13] Closure? Do I have a mover?
[2:44:15] >> There are Stainforth,
[2:44:16] district four.
[2:44:17] >> And seconder?
[2:44:22] >> Brandon Allen, district
[2:44:23] eight.
[2:44:24] >> All in favour? Merci! Merci
[2:44:26] tout le. Monde
[2:44:28] Thank you, folks, for not
[2:44:30] watching the American election
[2:44:31] and exercising your democratic
[2:44:35] choice. Much better here.